[12:26] I've tried it a while ago, and it crashed at the desktop a lot of times [12:26] bulio: never had a crash not caused by my own tinkering [12:26] bulio: it's fixed since feisty [12:27] oh, ok [12:27] bulio: edgy and dapper used beta vesions of xgce [12:28] it should be a step up from XP [12:28] which is kind of laggy after 4 months install [12:29] I guess I'll need to convert my storage partition from NTFS to Fat32? [12:29] bulio: better to ext3 [12:30] can I do that without losing data? [12:30] TheSheep: yeah, ext3 or one of the newer ones [12:30] bulio: I don't know [12:30] bulio: what I just said to TheSheep [12:30] bulio: probably not [12:30] bulio: you can convert to NTFS to Fat32 directly without losing data? [12:31] yeah [12:31] bulio: probably better to repartition and move what you want over, and then ultimately delete the old partition and make the new one full size [12:32] bulio: if you can do that, then better stick to fat [12:32] so resize my 80GB partition (32GB used) into a 50GB, transfer stuff over, then delete the old partition and convert it to ext3 too? [12:32] bulio: at least it works and you know how to handle it [12:32] bulio: If you're comfortable with that, yes [12:32] bulio: ext3 will be better than fat32 [12:33] bulio: resizing partitions can fail and destroy the data [12:33] Ktron: not much [12:33] Never lost data resizing.... [12:33] ntfsresize is pretty reliable [12:33] Ktron: ever read its license? [12:33] I'll give it a try [12:33] I'm using partitionmagic 8.0 on windows [12:34] bulio: anyway, at the end you can resize the 50gb to take the full 80gb, or if you prefer, keep them separate [12:34] bulio: but you will need additional driver yo trad ext2/3 in windows [12:34] bulio: partitionmagic should have no problem resizing, and there's one built in to the *buntu installer too [12:34] to read [12:34] * [12:34] TheSheep: he's replacing windows xp (right?) [12:35] TheSheep: he won't need to ever use windows to read ext3 [12:35] ah, in that case ext is better :) [12:35] good night, good luck [12:36] bulio: I usually go the partitioning route, simply because it means I keep what I want/need === archangelpetro [n=bleh@82.152.221.173] has joined #xubuntu [12:37] Can't FUCK wit' {uX} when we're blazed XD http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4686/shot0012uk7.png [12:37] bulio: plus, you probably don't want to keep exactly the same directory structure [12:38] what do you mean, Ktron? [12:38] ceil420: they almost did [12:38] lol [12:38] right now, I have windows xp on a 20GB partition, and all my data on a 90GB partition [12:39] the 90GB partition is NTFS [12:39] So, if you're trying to keep old data, you probably have old data in like, C:\Documents and Settings\username\My Documents\My Music\ etc [12:39] yeah [12:39] no [12:39] its in E:\ [12:39] bulio: oh, I got it [12:39] bulio: that's better practice [12:39] so like E:\Music [12:39] bulio: and you just want to replace the windows xp bit, right? [12:39] the C:\ drive is only for programs and windows itself [12:40] ^^yeah [12:40] but Linux doesn't work with ntfs too well [12:40] which is the filsystem of E:\ [12:40] You should be able to mount ntfs for r/w like that I think... [12:41] with ntfs-3g? [12:41] I don't think linux likes installing into ntfs, but I don't think you're likely to run into problems using ntfs for your storage [12:42] bulio: I'm really not sure [12:42] well, I'll convert it to FAT32 to be safe [12:42] thanks for the help, I'll be back later [12:42] bulio: I know that I've happily mounted and worked with ntfs partitions (and played music off of them and movies) from the livecd [12:57] i think you can run linux from ntfs, becuase there is a way to install linux in windows by making a file that contains all the linux stuff. kinda like a windows swap file === aliasrush [n=aliasrus@cpe-024-211-104-040.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:10] can two different Linux partitions share the same home partition with the same users? [01:10] does ne1 have exp w/ CUPS? im getting this error when i use gnome-cups-manager [01:10] (gnome-printer-view:6878): WARNING **: Two ppds have driver == 'PS, 1.1' [01:11] aliasrush: I can't see why not === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:11] then it is complaining: /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found [01:11] aliasrush: They'll just have to share settings === Ktron [n=khamer@c-24-61-194-197.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] === bart_17 [n=tina@58.69.29.149] has joined #xubuntu [01:14] heya grazie [01:17] aliasrush, yea it can use the same. whats the problem? if you can read the data but not write try as root === vidd [n=vidd@static-72-86-132-125.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === cjae_ [n=cjae@142-165-37-205.estv.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #xubuntu [01:30] Ok I have a huge problem my onboard ethernet (intelpro100) died or appears to have died so I replaced with an smc 10/100 pci nic [01:30] the nic has a realtek chip in it so the 8139too module works but now my xservers are messed up [01:32] I have two screens with an nvidia card one is tv out svideo and the other is a normal 15 " crt === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #xubuntu [01:33] I now only have the monitor but it has the tvout screen settings and nothing else, wt* [01:33] ?? [01:33] Is the nic possibly using the same nic as the agp card?? [01:34] that should say same irq as card [01:35] how can that even affect each other [01:37] I have not changed anything else that I am aware of [01:37] I unloaded the e100 module as well [01:41] hello === Qew [n=qew@82-69-126-225.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA is now known as BFTD === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B976A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:46] I accidentally pinged my router 25000 times === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-84-11.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:50] BFTD, dont that like kill your preformance? [01:50] vidd yeah it would if I was home at the time using it [01:50] ah...so not so bad then? === Qew_ [n=qew@82-69-126-225.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === test31 [n=shane@71-89-151-154.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has left #xubuntu [] [02:09] anyone see my problem === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu [03:06] ok fsck fails on my /dev/sdb1 /home partition at boot so I may only log in as root can anyone help with this [03:07] the fs is ext3 === homebrewcider [n=mal001@219-90-239-215.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === teThys [n=jfranji@85.10.60.120] has joined #xubuntu === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-173-139.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:32] anyone here === kiosk [n=kiosk@ip72-196-242-121.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === homebrewcider [n=mal001@219-90-239-215.ip.adam.com.au] has left #xubuntu [] === C|-|R15 [n=chatzill@82.22.132.229] has joined #xubuntu [03:47] has anyone used new xubuntu feisty fawn on a sony vaio laptop? [03:48] does it have drivers that will detect the mouse pad correctly? === C|-|R15 [n=chatzill@82.22.132.229] has left #xubuntu [] [03:51] ok...nevermind then === archangelpetro [n=bleh@82.152.221.173] has joined #xubuntu === bulio [n=bulio@about/chess/king] has joined #xubuntu [04:01] Just installed xubuntu, its really nice! [04:02] gonna take some getting used to though, I usually use XP at home [04:02] and Linux for servers === vidd [n=vidd@static-72-86-132-125.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.137.133] has joined #xubuntu [04:42] fsck 1.40-WIP fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve `UUID= xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx` fsck died with exit status 8 === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.217.66.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === jordansdad253 [n=ash@63-225-173-139.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:50] hello all [04:52] can anyone please tell me how i would go about forwarding ports in xubuntu? === jordansdad253 [n=ash@63-225-173-139.tukw.qwest.net] has left #xubuntu [] === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === deep` [n=deep@c-8a2a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu === vidd [n=vidd@static-72-86-132-125.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === curiogeo [n=mandani@bas6-montreal02-1096647612.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu === artabrahao [i=artur@201.20.195.60] has joined #xubuntu [05:48] what is the mc packag name? === OGDA is now known as BFTD [06:13] looking for printing support through CUPS on a brother network printer, CUPS can see and print to the USB printer locally but network printing is failing [06:14] has anyone seen this in their own setup === kiosk [n=kiosk@ip72-196-242-121.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:16] my menu bar is gone - (help) [06:17] kiosk alt-F2 [06:17] and then enter in xfce4-panel [06:17] yep thats how I am surviving [06:17] But how can I get menu back? [06:18] you see the bar? [06:18] right click and then add new item [06:18] Alt-F2 brings me the run program [06:18] dialog [06:18] it'll be in that list that pops up [06:18] kiosk right [06:19] hey it's back [06:19] thanks [06:19] will it start up on boot? [06:20] it should, sometimes on the first start up it doesn't work [06:20] its happened a few times to me [06:20] logout and back in [06:20] does it add itself to rc.d somewhere? [06:20] that should save the session then it should auto start [06:20] my proftp server just got stupid and "forgot" all my user's passwords.... [06:21] anyone know where i should look for what might be causing this? [06:21] will rescue broken system loose my data and installed packages [06:22] i know that the passwords are right cuzz i just re-entered them [06:23] vidd, is it just ftp or more (and i hanve gotten a drink yet, wikipedia sucked me in again) [06:23] so far as i can tell...just ftp [06:24] well.. i did just ssh in so duh on me [06:24] all my log files are compressed...so i need to ftp them....oooppss...cant do that.... [06:25] hrm [06:25] wget them [06:25] humm [06:25] uncompress server side, where they at [06:26] last time i did that it corrupted the logs.... [06:26] the config files look right.... [06:28] the only change i made was to fix the server's dns server list (/etc/resolv.cong) and reboot [06:28] try unfixing [06:33] why do you kill the server? [06:35] yes [06:35] what it the command to descopact with tar keepping the directory estructure? === xjkx [n=x@201009061254.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #xubuntu [06:50] it runs a fsck check every single damn boot, can i unset it? [06:52] Are you shutting down cleanly? [06:54] Yea, sometimes it freezes when reboot [06:54] :> [06:54] but it happens everytime [06:54] Even when its ok [06:55] I think my video card isnt compatible, when i try to logoff, reboot, or anything from X i get a big time of freeze until reboot [06:55] or logoff [06:55] But now I am doing reboot from alt+f1, which isnt freezing [06:55] Anyway...your system doesnt make fsck check every boot? thats strange [06:56] Nope, only every 30. [06:57] Is there a file called 'forcefsck' in /? [06:59] no, but there is lost+found [06:59] lost+found is empty anyway === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.137.133] has left #xubuntu [] [07:04] bug 63175 [07:04] Launchpad bug 63175 in e2fsprogs "Edgy Beta -- fsck on every (re)boot" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63175 [07:07] Pumpernickel, you good at bug finding === battra [n=asmaiya@adsl-68-20-27-202.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:33] how do you take screen shots from cli === Ambrish [n=info@203.101.164.214] has joined #xubuntu [07:33] GET FREE RESOURCES and tutorials at www.fxtrademaker.com [07:33] GET FREE RESOURCES and tutorials at www.fxtrademaker.com === Ambrish [n=info@203.101.164.214] has left #xubuntu [] [07:33] we need a op === mode/#xubuntu [+o Pumpernickel] by ChanServ === mode/#xubuntu [+b ambrish*@*!*@*] by Pumpernickel === mode/#xubuntu [+b *!*@203.101.164.*] by Pumpernickel === mode/#xubuntu [-o Pumpernickel] by Pumpernickel === mode/#xubuntu [+o Pumpernickel] by ChanServ === mode/#xubuntu [-b ambrish*@*!*@*] by Pumpernickel === mode/#xubuntu [+b *!ambrish*@*] by Pumpernickel === mode/#xubuntu [-o Pumpernickel] by Pumpernickel [07:40] Hi, I'm trying to get mplayerplug-in to work on Xubuntu Edgy Eft, but the noembed=1 option in the conf file is being ignored. Any ideas? [07:40] When setting noembed=1, the plugin does not launch an external frame. === rokra [n=christor@ANancy-153-1-31-192.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:04] Anyone know how to get mplayerplug-in working? [08:04] what kind of files do you want? [08:04] to play [08:04] Streaming video from CNN. [08:05] Downloaded wmv works fine. [08:05] It's just streaming that's not working. [08:05] i got something [08:06] In other distros, I usually set the noembed=1 option in mplayerplug-in, but the noembed=1 is being ignored in xubuntu edgy for some reason. [08:06] you missing libs? [08:06] I got a list [08:07] Have the libs (e.g. w32 codecs). [08:07] standalone mplayer works fine. [08:07] gstreamer? [08:08] I got a list of libs that can watch everything ive tried [08:08] are you using totem or mplayer? [08:08] zfmedia [08:08] xfmedia [08:09] but it makes install totem for divx [08:09] but zfmedia still plays divx nicer [08:09] err [08:09] hmm, interesting. [08:09] how does it play streaming video through firefox? [08:09] I forgot how I did it [08:09] i tried again and it didnt work heh [08:09] oh [08:10] but I know I watched some divx in xfmdeia [08:10] gotta get link and paste in open url [08:10] Yeah, it's just streaming that's not working on my box. Just trying to watch cnn.com videos. [08:11] the audio works, but no video. [08:11] missing libs [08:11] I dont know if you need all these but I dont think it would hurt [08:11] gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs totem-xine [08:12] I can watch everything ive tried [08:12] cool, thanks. [08:12] So, are you able to watch videos on cnn.com? Or is that not working for you, too? [08:13] umm im actually in windows right now [08:13] and cant reboot [08:13] well shouldnt heh [08:13] Oh, I gotcha. [08:14] thanks. === deep` [n=deep@c-8a2a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu [08:19] ubuntu-restricted-extras [08:19] heres another lib that was in my mix [08:19] I made a script that auto installs every program and lib I need auto [08:19] for next clean install [08:19] heh [08:20] nice [08:23] xchat and pysol I do seperate [08:23] so I can chat and play solitaire while I wait the 2 hours top install the rest [08:26] battra: Do you have embed or noembed specifiec in mozpluggerrc? [08:26] s/specifiec/specified/ [08:27] I have noembed=1, but it's being ignored by the plugin. [08:28] Also, it's specified in the file /etc/mplayerplug-in.conf. [08:28] heh in xubuntu only 3 people have spoken in 10 minutes [08:28] arr too many channels [08:28] To get streaming working in the past on Linux, I usually only have to set noembed=1 and it works. But noembed=1 is being ignored. === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5E8A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:29] mozpluggerrc shouldn't require the =1 syntax. [08:30] The plugin package I'm using is mozilla-mplayer. It sounds like mozplugger is something different? [08:31] =1 syntax is specified in the default conf file in mozilla=mplayer package. [08:32] what is mozplugger? [08:32] can't find it in repo (including universe and multiverse) [08:33] sorry found it [08:33] hmm, let me try this instead of mplayerplug-in. Thanks. [08:38] I have to go, but this may be a useful reference: http://mozplugger.mozdev.org/ [08:38] Second item in the 'notes' section. [08:41] Thanks pumbernickel === solotim [n=frank@io29.opt2.point.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.217.66.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === solotim [n=frank@io29.opt2.point.ne.jp] has left #xubuntu [] === battra [n=asmaiya@adsl-68-20-27-202.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has left #xubuntu [] === rokra_ [n=christor@ANancy-153-1-14-234.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu === Deviad [n=Deviad__@81-208-83-249.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu === mchasart [i=zvflwxdf@nezmar.netlab.cz] has joined #xubuntu === mchasart [i=zvflwxdf@nezmar.netlab.cz] has left #xubuntu [] === Deviad [n=Deviad__@81-208-83-249.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5E8A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === kj0ttdeig [n=kj0ttdei@203.84-48-174.nextgentel.com] has joined #xubuntu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #xubuntu === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu === kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.196.68] has joined #xubuntu [10:15] hello [10:15] is there a way to find out about the ram in my machine? === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === ctp [n=Chris@brsg-d9beca57.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #xubuntu === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #xubuntu === tomboy64 [n=tomboy64@e179017236.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #xubuntu [10:49] hi guys. === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:50] could someone tell me if the qt-libs are available on the xubuntu live-cd? [10:50] and if so, in version 4? === Gerro [n=user@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.196.68] has joined #xubuntu [11:32] xub xub! :) === aliasrush [n=aliasrus@cpe-024-211-104-040.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === kick52 [n=Tim@91.108.196.68] has left #xubuntu [] === aliasrush [n=aliasrus@cpe-024-211-104-040.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Deepshock [n=Deepshoc@c-68-60-236-108.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:06] Hey fellas, anyone awke? === aliasrush [n=aliasrus@cpe-024-211-104-040.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B96235.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === kj0ttdeig [n=kj0ttdei@203.84-48-174.nextgentel.com] has joined #xubuntu === Deepshock [n=Deepshoc@c-68-60-236-108.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] === AlexC [n=chatzill@dragnet2034196142.dragnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [12:53] HELP [12:53] not good!!!!! [12:54] i was messing with bios settings and..... [12:54] now it won't start [12:54] at all [12:54] not even into bios [12:57] AlexC: well, you can always reset your cmos [12:57] if you don't mind that things are reset to default settings [12:58] AlexC: pop open the hood and pull the battery while its powered off === xjkx [n=x@201009061254.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #xubuntu [] [12:58] yeah or use the jumper saying cmos, hit your powerbutten, switch the jumber again and boot :] [12:59] how do i do that? [01:00] AlexC: open up your case [01:00] dohne [01:00] done [01:00] look for a jumper, it will say cmos [01:00] and is awfully small :p [01:00] i'll look [01:00] brb [01:01] AlexC: what were you doing to bios anyway? [01:01] both laptop I use and my brothers use pheonix bios and display the same bug message on boot [01:01] i was thinking about looking into it and perhaps trying to reflash a better bios [01:02] yeah, it's pheonix [01:02] *award bios [01:02] where would the jumper be? [01:02] it's a late 90's mainboard [01:03] AMD Duron [01:03] (my bios is pheonix) [01:04] yeah he uses an amd turion64 [01:04] AlexC: i don't know :] if you know your exact motherboard type, you can googled for it [01:04] where do i find that name of my mainboard? [01:04] AlexC: if you don't know the model try looking for print written on it [01:05] i have [01:05] it uses SD RAM [01:05] it's not a standard computer made by a company [01:05] it's a custom made one [01:06] i'll have another look, brb [01:06] AlexC: I doubt anyone custom made their motherboard [01:06] might be modded a bit but still that's hard work [01:08] i can't find name [01:08] or cmos switch [01:09] what is the name like? [01:11] give me a sec I'll show you some pics [01:11] http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=cmos&btnG=Search+Images take that out [01:12] see its the round thing [01:14] i have one of those batteries [01:14] \i'll look around that [01:14] that is what he meant by a "release" button for the cmos (battery thing) === rokra [n=christor@ANancy-153-1-14-234.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [01:16] do i have to take that out? [01:20] yes [01:20] and make sure the computer is not plugged into anything [01:20] how do i take it out [01:20] i tried [01:20] you look for a "release" mechanism [01:23] there is a tabby thing [01:23] i pull it but it's kinda hard [01:24] and i don't know how to take it out === zoidberg [n=zoidberg@161.32.234.65] has joined #xubuntu [01:27] guys [01:27] is anyone here [01:27] i have a question [01:27] shoot [01:29] so i have this old G3 powerbook with 64 mb ram [01:29] lol [01:29] mhm [01:29] i had been running xubuntu breezy on it quite well actually [01:29] it was a lil slow but it ran fine [01:30] recently breezy was not supported anymore [01:30] i couldnt donwload some new packages that i wanted [01:30] to i decided to upgrade to dapper or edgy [01:30] tried dapper [01:30] first through terminal [01:30] i've done this several times on my ubuntu pc [01:30] but it didn't work [01:31] then i used this breezy poerpc alternate cd to install it from scratch [01:31] and well not all pacakges got installed [01:31] i dont think the installation was complete [01:31] anywas [01:31] i had to skip a few steps in the installation process because not all the packages were there [01:31] now i reboot [01:31] and xubuntu starts === ghata1 [n=ghatak@82-38-203-125.cable.ubr05.shef.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [01:31] but there is no gui [01:32] i just get a console [01:32] ? [01:32] can u help me [01:32] does this mean that i dont have the xfce desktop installed? [01:32] it would seem so [01:32] Hi, my sound has vanished all of a sudden, audio players report that audio plugin do not work. same with every other application. What has gone wrong ? [01:32] are there any error messages? [01:33] zoidberg: error messages? [01:33] no not on reboot [01:34] it just boots to a console [01:34] hmmm [01:34] i think the installation was alright [01:34] but not complete [01:34] that makes me think X was not installed at all [01:34] type : sudo startx [01:35] AlexC, its STARTING!!! [01:35] hold on [01:35] let me see what happens [01:36] okay [01:36] the xfce lil mous on a wheel thing was loading [01:36] started? [01:36] but then i get this X mouse cursor and nothing [01:36] so i dont think it is installed [01:36] can i install it from the alternate cd i have? [01:37] i only know how to on a gui [01:37] you need to put the cd into sources.list [01:37] umm [01:38] i think it's /etc/apt/sources.list or something [01:39] i can't remember [01:39] cd /etc/apt [01:39] nano sources.list [01:39] Gerro: i can't get the battery out [01:40] AlexC, the sources.list only has the cd line [01:41] ghata1: are there multiple processes of esd? [01:41] zoidberg: what does it say? [01:42] hey AlexC , [01:42] it just started [01:42] i just let it set for a while but it started [01:42] how can i get it to start x on boot? [01:42] applications>system>services [01:42] tick gdm [01:43] that's what i did in edgy [01:45] AlexC, i went to applications>system>services but there is no gdm option to tick? [01:45] o.0 [01:45] when X started [01:45] did it go to a login screen? [01:46] no [01:46] i started x from the console so i was already logged in [01:48] your problem is that gdm wasn't installed [01:48] and therefore it goes to a console login screen === madness [n=jfranji@85.10.59.207] has joined #xubuntu [01:50] okay [01:51] what kind of internet connection do you have? [01:51] AlexC: there is no esd process running, ps -ef | grep esd reveals nothing [01:52] look in ps -e [01:53] i guess that would have same result [01:55] yea [01:56] sudo asoundconf list [01:57] i don't know if that will help [01:58] hey AlexC [01:58] do u have a copy of your source.list....there is nothing in mine [01:58] i'm going to try to update iot [01:59] my computer won't boot [01:59] that's why i'm in here [01:59] whats wrong with ure computer AlexC [01:59] i messed with bios settings === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === ghata1 [n=ghatak@82-38-203-125.cable.ubr05.shef.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #xubuntu [] [02:03] not good [02:03] very not good [02:04] i was trying to remove the battery and i broke something === grazie [n=grazie@88-109-235-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:04] i hope it still works [02:04] gerro [02:04] yeah? [02:05] > i was trying to remove the battery and i broke something [02:05] hopefully it was just the clamp holding the battery [02:05] the battery is still in there [02:05] i was using a flat head screw driver [02:05] you might want to get someone more knowledgable with the thing to have a look at it [02:06] yeah [02:06] but it's public holiday tomorrow [02:06] AlexC: ouch hope you didn't scrape anything either [02:07] i accidently hit the graphics card a few times [02:07] but no damage other than the battery holding thing [02:11] its a public holiday tommorrow? [02:11] why [02:14] in australia [02:14] gerro, fixed [02:15] gerro, i had to pry it the other way [02:15] lol [02:15] it still seems to work [02:15] exept all the settings are default [02:20] and it doesn't boot a OS [02:20] o.o [02:20] how do i setup the bios to boot xubuntu [02:20] or grub [02:20] yeah, grub [02:26] configure it? [02:26] I don't know its your bios [02:26] lol [02:27] AlexC: sorry I'm a bit spacing out starting at this download someone recommended on another channel [02:29] heh [02:30] #grub isn't being very helpful [02:31] my bios hurts my feelings === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@p54B97012.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:49] AlexC: hmm so you set it to boot from hard drive right? [02:49] ah darn they left === Laibsc1 is now known as Laibsch === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@216-107-0-212-dhcp.nni.com] has joined #xubuntu === ghata1 [n=ghatak@82-38-203-125.cable.ubr05.shef.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [03:02] I have made some progress, reboot did not fix the problem, however i was not memeber of admin group, after adding myself to that group I can now execute applications using sudo, If i start something using sudo, it works fine, sounds works fine. But nothing works if i try it as my normal user. Looks like something to do with permissions [03:03] help please === GrueTamer [n=gruetame@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:04] when u say nothing works what exactly is 'nothing'? (example) [03:06] kumamoto: alsamixer reports this >> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device [03:06] if i do the same using sudo alsamixer, i get nice interface for volume and other controls [03:07] if it is a device let assume it is controlled by sudo try something else on your gui and see if there is a specific permission error [03:11] hey guys do u know how to make dvds work better on powerpc powerbooks [03:11] i have an old G3 powebook [03:11] and i know that you can access the ram better or something DRAM or something to make dvd playback better [03:11] any help? [03:13] kumamoto: my UID is 1000, if i start something with that UID, then sound does not work, if i start something with root UID then it works fine. [03:14] this includes, all my media players, and other audio and video playing devices [03:15] ghata1: what do your logs say when you attempt access the sound device (dmesg or /var/log/messages) [03:16] kumamoto: ok this is an output when i tried to run VLC as my normal username >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24852/ [03:19] ok can I also see the output of /etc/security/groups.conf [03:21] kumamoto: sure, here it is >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24853/ [03:28] sorry that didn't help let me see what I can find out [03:29] by the way do you have /dev/dsp or /dev/snd [03:29] crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2007-06-09 13:53 /dev/dsp [03:29] ah [03:30] usermod -G user,admin,audio see if that works (sudo ofcourse) [03:31] sudo usermod -G user,admin,audio [03:31] usermod: user user,admin,audio does not exist === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-173-139.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:34] if you grep audio in your group file are you part of it [03:34] #grep 'audio' /etc/group [03:34] yea, the above command only keeps in one group, either admin or audio [03:35] is your user part of the group admin and audio [03:36] no, I can only add my username to only one of them. when i do sudo usermod -G audio myusername, i get added to audio, but i do sudo usermod -G admin myusername then i get added to admin but remomved from audio [03:42] how about manualyl [03:42] manually [03:42] done that, edited the file and added myself to both groups, not sure if it will take effect immediately or not [03:43] most likely u might need to reboot and see [03:43] Hmm... right === ghata1 [n=ghatak@82-38-203-125.cable.ubr05.shef.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #xubuntu [] === artabrahao [i=artur@201.20.195.60] has joined #xubuntu [03:55] anyone has ideia why the immage does not appears in http://shoppingcarba.com.br/ ? === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-84-11.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === ghata1 [n=ghatak@82-38-203-125.cable.ubr05.shef.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [04:07] kumamoto: that fixed the issue with sound [04:07] I had to reboot [04:07] I am just concerned why it happened in the first place === hhlp [n=hhlp@72.Red-83-61-176.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.137.133] has joined #xubuntu [04:34] hey guys [04:34] where can i enable the wireless connection versus the ethernet connection? [04:34] ? [04:36] i used to have badger xubuntu....and it had network settings....i just upgraded to dapper...i cant find network settings in applications>system [04:36] any help [04:37] ? [04:38] zoidberg: hold on a sec [04:38] :) [04:39] zoidberg: i'm not on dapper, but can you also check applications>settings? [04:39] its not there either === aroo_ [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:39] is there a way to open it through terminal or something [04:40] i've used it before i just cant find it [04:41] zoidberg: sorry, i'm checking... [04:44] zoidberg: can you try doing: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-system-tools --reinstall ? [04:44] or, you can leave off the --reinstall flag [04:46] j1mc, i'm installing it right now [04:47] thanx === UnholyLegion [n=darkstar@p54A3AF27.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu [04:47] that worked [04:47] j1mc, thanx a lot === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:47] yeah! [04:48] glad that worked, zoidberg === Crutch_Fu [n=adam@CPE-67-48-74-163.neb.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === kmindi [n=noname@dslb-088-067-029-068.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #xubuntu === ghata1 [n=ghatak@82-38-203-125.cable.ubr05.shef.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #xubuntu [] === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.137.133] has left #xubuntu [] === Crutch_Fu [n=adam@CPE-67-48-74-163.neb.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] === aliasrush [n=aliasrus@cpe-024-211-104-040.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Arkh_ [n=Arkh@213-156-55-142.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu === slow-motion [n=JohnDoe@p5B06E154.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:28] hallo === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [n=ryan@d35-8.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === Spencer [n=Weiss@cpe-76-190-153-187.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:38] O! say can you see by the dawns early light. What so proudly we hailed at the twilights last gleaming === ubuntu_laptop [n=ubuntu_l@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === agentnoob [n=User@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-213-168-120-133.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === briancron [n=brian@c-76-111-26-81.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:32] anyone knows the link for lamp webpag? === kirke [n=kirke@r190-64-45-221.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #xubuntu [06:36] artabrahao, to set up a lamp or to install? [06:36] artabrahao: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show [06:36] artabrahao, You don't need lamp on ubuntu. It's almost all preconfigured. [06:36] the installer is on the "alt cd" === briancron [n=brian@c-76-111-26-81.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:39] thanks, but I want to check it [06:42] Hello, I want to install drivers for my Nvidia but : sudo nvidia-glx-config enable [06:42] Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed [06:42] the nvidia driver for your running kernel. === __Krush [n=chatzill@85.232.198.131] has joined #xubuntu [06:49] kirke: install linux-restricted-modules- [06:49] TheSheep, yes, I've already do that. [06:49] sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source [06:49] kirke: are you sure you installed for the right version? [06:50] sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy [06:50] kirke: restricted modules, not kernel source [06:50] yes, glx-legacy is for GeForce2 === TheSheep shrugs [06:54] so install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386? [06:54] kirke: yes [06:54] Ok, it's done [06:55] I've "The most recent versioN" === ubuntu_laptop [n=ubuntu_l@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu [06:55] kirke: you should install the one for your kernel, you can check your kernel with 'uname -r' [06:55] Yes, i Know. [06:55] -desktop:~$ uname -r [06:55] 2.6.17-10-386 [06:56] ok, that's good [06:56] linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 ya est en su versin ms reciente. [06:56] (that's in spanish) [06:56] ah, so it was installed [06:56] kirke: try 'sudo modprobe nvidia' [06:56] kirke: and tell me th last line of 'dmesg' [06:57] Not loading nvidia_legacy module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf [06:57] [17179680.292000] end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 4 [06:57] kirke: ok, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace the 'Driver "nv"' with 'Driver "nvidia"' [06:58] kirke: looks like your disk is broken, btw, you should scan it [06:58] yes [06:58] kirke: scan it and mark the bad blocks, then it won't use the broken parts [06:58] at booting sometimes says my that is some problem [06:59] how can I scan it? [06:59] and mark the bad blocks? [07:00] kirke: remount all your partitions read-only with 'sudo mount /dev/hdcX -f -o remount,ro' (where X is the number for partition), and then run 'sudo fsck -c /dev/hdc' [07:00] !fsck | kirke [07:00] kirke: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot [07:01] kirke: the scanning will take some time [07:01] kirke: it has to try and read/write every single pice of your hdd [07:02] ouch... [07:02] It turns to complex for me, but I will try... [07:04] kirke: 'mount' will list you all the mounted partitions [07:04] kirke: look which one of them areo n hdc and remount those read-only [07:04] *are on [07:04] what's hdc? [07:05] kirke: disk connected as master to the second IDE channel [07:05] kirke: the IDE disk are called, in order, hda (first master), hdb (first slave), hdc (second master) and hdd (second slave) === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:06] mount [07:06] /dev/hda6 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) [07:06] proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) [07:06] varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755) [07:06] varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777) [07:06] procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) === adam0509 [n=benoit@stc92-1-82-227-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:06] udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) [07:06] devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) [07:06] devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) [07:06] lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw) [07:06] /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type ntfs (rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46) [07:07] /dev/hda7 on /media/hda7 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46) [07:07] where is the hdc here? [07:07] kirke: there is none [07:07] kirke: say, can you do 'ls -l /dev/cdrom' ? [07:08] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2007-06-09 10:26 /dev/cdrom -> hdb [07:08] what's thaht? === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #xubuntu [07:09] kirke: it means that your cdrom is connected as hdb [07:09] hmm... [07:09] kirke: what about 'ls -l /dev/ | grep hdc' ? [07:09] kirke: it will list the things that refer to 'hdc' [07:10] brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2007-06-09 10:26 hdc [07:10] kirke: that's all? [07:10] yes [07:10] kirke@kirke-desktop:~/Desktop$ ls -l /dev/ | grep hdc [07:10] brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2007-06-09 10:26 hdc [07:10] kirke@kirke-desktop:~/Desktop$ [07:11] kirke: your /etc/fstab ? [07:11] it doesn't exist [07:12] kirke@kirke-desktop:/etc$ cd fstab [07:12] bash: cd: fstab: No es un directorio [07:12] kirke@kirke-desktop:/etc$ [07:12] kirke: it's file [07:12] kirke: text file [07:12] ok wait... I don't know how to copy from nano... [07:13] kirke: select it [07:13] # /etc/fstab: static file system information. [07:13] # [07:13] # [07:13] proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 [07:13] # /dev/hda6 [07:13] UUID=a8a1bc46-f11f-4115-94bc-f52144f5c9b5 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [07:13] # /dev/hda1 [07:13] UUID=9C18019418016F18 /media/hda1 ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 [07:13] # /dev/hda7 [07:13] UUID=3F47-AB8B /media/hda7 vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 [07:13] # /dev/hda5 [07:13] UUID=939dbfd8-a4fd-428d-83b2-421d046d1014 none swap sw 0 0 [07:13] /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 [07:13] /dev/hdb /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 [07:13] ok, so you have 2 cdroms and one of them is hdc [07:14] so the reading error is probably due to a scratched disk or something like that [07:14] ok [07:14] how can I 'unScratch' the disk :D [07:15] kirke: you can try reading it in a different drive, maybe it'll be lucky -- then burn on a new cd [07:16] reading what? [07:17] kirke: the cd disk [07:17] kirke: that is scratched [07:17] I don't care about the cd disk [07:17] kirke: that's fine then [07:18] I only want to install the nvidia driver's :'( [07:18] *drivers [07:18] kirke: but if you ever get this kind of erros on your hard disk drive (hda in your case), then it means trouble [07:18] umm [07:18] yes [07:18] kirke: ok, edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf [07:18] but the hard disk problem is related to the cd? [07:19] kirke: and replace the line with 'driver "nv"' in it to 'driver "nvidia"' [07:19] yes [07:19] I've alrdeady done it [07:19] kirke: try the 'modprobe nvidia' now [07:19] (forgive my English, but my mother language is Spanish) [07:19] kirke: your English is very good, mine is Polish [07:20] yes? [07:20] wow. [07:20] kirke@kirke-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo modprobe nvidia [07:20] Password: [07:20] kirke@kirke-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo modprobe nvidia [07:20] it says nothign! [07:20] kirke: that's good, now try 'lsmod | grep nvidia' [07:20] kirke@kirke-desktop:~/Desktop$ lsmod | grep nvidia [07:20] nvidia 3931148 0 [07:20] agpgart 33456 2 nvidia,via_agp [07:20] and that means? [07:21] it means it's loaded in your memory [07:21] now restart your X with alt+ctrl+backspace (it will kill all your running applications) [07:21] ok [07:21] I will come back in 2 minutes [07:21] if it fails, put the 'driver "nv"' back and run /etc/init.d/gdm restart === kirke [n=kirke@r190-64-45-221.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #xubuntu [07:24] TheSheep, how can I know if it's working? [07:24] kirke: any luck? [07:24] kirke: try enabling shadows [07:24] I have a splash screen with "nvidia" [07:24] kirke: settings->window manager tweaks->compositor [07:24] but I've try to games, but i does'nt launch the game [07:25] kirke: you can get rid of the splash screen by adding 'option "nologo"' right above or below that driver line you changed [07:25] kirke: try running the game from a terminal and look at what it says [07:26] I've try kirke@kirke-desktop:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable [07:26] Password: [07:26] Error: your X configuration has been altered. [07:26] kirke: you already did what the nvidia-glx-config was supposed to do [07:26] ok [07:27] how can I run the game from the console? [07:27] I do not know the command to enter [07:27] kirke: how did you run it? [07:27] from Aplications --> Games --> "GAME" [07:28] kirke: then there should be a file '/usr/share/applications/"GAME".desktop", and in it an 'exec' line that tells the command [07:28] hihi TheSheep [07:29] greetings mister hyper_ch === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:29] what's up in your part of the world? [07:29] hyper_ch: Bush just left, I won't miss him ;) [07:29] TheSheep, Is tuxkart.desktop [07:29] Is there anything in xfce comparable to gedit/kate? (not abiword) [07:30] TheSheep: I thought bush was today in Italy... [07:30] aroo: mousepad [07:30] aroo: mousepad (rather simple), scite, geany [07:30] TheSheep, how can I run the TuxKart? [07:30] Thanks dudes. [07:30] kirke: look into that file === unikon [n=unikon@unaffiliated/unikon] has joined #xubuntu [07:31] [Desktop Entry] [07:31] Version=1.0 [07:31] Encoding=UTF-8 [07:31] Name=TuxKart [07:31] GenericName=TuxKart [07:31] Comment=Play a 3D Go-Kart game with famous Open Source mascots [07:31] Type=Application [07:31] Exec=tuxkart [07:31] Icon=tuxkart [07:31] aroo: but it has no syntax highlighting I think [07:31] Categories=ActionGame;Game; [07:31] !paste | kirke [07:31] kirke: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [07:31] kirke: I'll better tell you now, before the channel gets busy [07:31] kirke: ah, ok, hyperch already told you [07:31] ok [07:32] TheSheep: ;) I'm quick [07:32] kirke: so, the 'Exec' line tells you the commanfd [07:32] command [07:32] kirke: not being meant as offensive... general rule of thumb: More than 3 lines --> pastinb [07:32] ok [07:32] hyper_ch, has that line hard-coded to a function key! [07:32] Data files will be fetched from: '/usr/share/games/tuxkart' [07:32] PW: GLX extension not available on display ':0.0'?!?kirke@kirke-desktop:/usr/s [07:32] 3 Lines :D [07:33] hiho vidd_laptop [07:33] kirke: that's weird === kmindi[1] [n=noname@dslb-088-067-029-068.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:33] *wave* hyper_ch [07:33] weird means rare? [07:33] kirke: unexpected to me :) [07:33] TheSheep, ok [07:33] kirke: that means the grand master TheSheep doesn't really know what's happening... ans since not many things can surprise him... it's weird [07:34] TheSheep, Thanks for trying and for patience. [07:34] uboto pastebin has been down recently [07:34] hyper_ch, jaja [07:34] unikon: I prefer http://www.phpfi.com --> because you can enter name and keywords and later search for it :) [07:34] hyper_ch, you are not in -offtopic.... [07:35] vidd_laptop: yes I know.. I'm right on topic ;) sort of... [07:35] kirke: do you have an old nvidia card? === vidd_laptop wanted to task your incredible knowledge on a not-xubuntu-specific issue.... [07:36] kirke: I mean are you required to use the legacy drivers? [07:36] hyper_ch, yes GeForce 2 [07:36] hyper_ch, yes, I know. [07:36] did you add the "no compose" to your xorg.conf? [07:36] "no compose"? [07:36] !restricted [07:36] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [07:37] !nvidia [07:37] To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [07:37] hyper_ch, ?? [07:38] kirke: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-6a16bd77ea4c381bf0c6502489d408f9dc6d5d67 [07:38] that thing here: [07:38] Section "Extensions" [07:38] Option "Composite" "Disable" [07:38] EndSection === vidd_laptop wanted to task your incredible knowledge on a not-xubuntu-specific issue.... hyper_ch [07:38] vidd_laptop: go ahead [07:39] i had set up a blog and a forum on my server box.... [07:39] kirke: that's what I had to do with my old GeForce 2 GTS/Pro [07:39] vidd_laptop: that's good ;) [07:39] well, actually [07:39] then got my system hosted at work, and registered a domain name.... [07:39] "had" means past [07:39] and hence you imply you don't have it any longer ;) [07:39] now they are looking to my old dyndns domain instead of the new one.... [07:40] yeah, ok... and problem is now you don't know how to get the domain to your box? [07:40] and i cant figure out WHERE i need to fix the referencing issue [07:40] the domain is fine..... [07:40] vidd_laptop: well, the box is yours and you have full control over the domain? [07:40] but the scripts are looking to the OLD domain, and i need to "educate" them to the new domain name [07:41] hyper_ch, yes === Dr`Maison [n=fred@62.147.164.174] has joined #xubuntu [07:41] hyper_ch, after "Section "Extensions" [07:41] Option "Composite" "Disable" [07:41] EndSection" [07:41] I have to restart? [07:42] vidd_laptop: if you really want to host the domain I'd suggest to setup nameservers... create a glue record and your domain host for the nameservers and that's it :) [07:42] kirke: well, you have to restart the X-server === unikon [n=unikon@unaffiliated/unikon] has joined #xubuntu [07:42] kirke: you can do that by rebooting the machine === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-84-11.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:42] no...you can browse to my site.... [07:42] and ctrl-alt-backpsace? [07:42] kirke: or press ctrl-alt-escape (this will end your current session and just reload) [07:43] kirke: oh, it's ctrl-alt-backspce [07:43] ;) [07:43] but the scripts for my blog and other mysql stuff is all being reference to the OLD doamin name and not the new one [07:43] ok [07:43] thanks. [07:43] I've try. [07:43] vidd_laptop: well, the scripts for blog and so on have mostly a config.php [07:43] or config.inc.php [07:43] where you can set the path and db parameters [07:43] is wordpress your blog? [07:44] yes hyper_ch === kmindi[1] is now known as kmindi [07:45] vidd_laptop: well, it has somewhere a config file... could be wp_conf.php or something like that [07:45] right...but it does not state the url's in there === Woopahh [n=kristoff@static243-163-136.adsl.no] has joined #xubuntu === aubade [n=aubade@oh-67-76-205-93.dyn.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === Will^Draven [n=willdrav@cpe-066-026-043-000.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:47] hello, im having problems getting wireless internet on my Thinkpad T60! anyone that can help me whit this problem? [07:47] so i think that the db itself has the calls to the old site name [07:47] vidd_laptop: the domain.name could be in the db as you say [07:47] vidd_laptop: have you installed phpmyadmin? [07:47] Woopahh, what chipset are you using for your wireless [07:47] hyper_ch, yes [07:47] how do i find that out? [07:48] vidd_laptop: then have a look at the wp database there [07:48] Woopahh, is it an internal wireless, usb, or pcmcia? [07:48] vidd_laptop: most script do store basic infos in a config file... maybe wp is a an exception from that [07:48] internal [07:48] hyper_ch, ok...ty [07:48] Woopahh, on the command line, type lspci [07:49] Woopahh, in the output you want to look for something like : 02:06.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) [07:49] vidd_laptop: the wp_options table [07:49] hyper_ch, ok...you use wordpress too? === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B97012.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:50] vidd_laptop: yes === DaBeowulf [n=stefan@pD9EBD7B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #Xubuntu [07:50] hyper_ch, i'd like to read it sometime [07:50] vidd_laptop: you know German? [07:50] hyper_ch, no.... [07:50] =[ === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B97012.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:50] vidd_laptop: well, then there's not much use :) [07:51] hyper_ch, why do all the interesting ppl write in languages i cant understand! [07:51] =[ [07:51] vidd_laptop: why don't you learn more languages? [07:52] vidd_laptop: I understand German, French, English, Italian... some spanish and very little swedish [07:52] Why does it say this even when I use sudo?: ln: creating symbolic link `/media/disk/Spiele/UT2k4/System/libSDL-1.2.so.0' to `/usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0': Operation not permitted [07:52] DaBeowulf: what did you exactely enter as command? [07:53] Does it require a libSDL-1.2.so.0 in UT2k4 to exist? [07:53] This: ln -s /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 /somewhere/ut2004/System/libSDL-1.2.so.0 [07:53] with sudo in front [07:53] hyper_ch, i only know english, a little spanish, and less turkish [07:54] Note media/disk is the contents of my Win partition [07:54] DaBeowulf: you can isntall sdl from the repositories... [07:54] Da what file system is it? [07:55] DaBeowulf: what file system is it? [07:55] I do have it in usr/lib [07:55] is that /somewhere/... a fat32 or ntfs partition? [07:55] Hmm a usual Dos/Win98 I guess [07:56] How can I look that up? [07:56] DaBeowulf: they don't have symlinks :) [07:56] DaBeowulf: type 'mount' [07:56] DaBeowulf: somehow I don't think you can create a symlink to a win partition [07:56] Woopahh, did you find your wireless card? [07:57] type vfat === C|-|R15 [n=chatzill@82.22.133.32] has joined #xubuntu [07:58] Can I just copy the files it needs there then? === kmindi[1] [n=noname@dslb-088-067-019-207.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:58] DaBeowulf: what do you want to do? === unikon [n=unikon@unaffiliated/unikon] has joined #xubuntu [07:59] Here try your german again? ;) http://www.holarse-linuxgaming.de/h2006/comments/Unreal+Tournament+2004 [07:59] it says the latest linux patch misses these libraries [07:59] Hi...anyone using xubuntu on a laptop that (like Vaio) that has a mousepad? [08:00] anyone? i need help recovering my root pw on 6.06 Dapper Drake [08:00] does 7.04 have drivers for mousepad type on laptop? [08:01] DaBeowulf: copying them there should also work === kmindi[1] is now known as kmindi [08:01] Thanks so I'll try that. [08:01] unikon: hmmm, you can't... [08:02] i wonder if id be able to recover my files booting up in knoppix [08:02] unikon: yes, or you can boot with init=/bin/bash added to the kernel options [08:02] unikon: then remount / in read-write and change your password [08:03] TheSheep: cool :) [08:03] that's why gub has an option to add password to the boot options editor :) [08:03] grub [08:03] just to make it clear: he was talking about recovering his root pwd and not hacking his computer ;) [08:03] hyper_ch: it's the same [08:04] TheSheep: not really.. recover means he will get the information regarding his root pwd... hacking means circumventing that obstacle ;) [08:05] hyper_ch: well, recovering the password would require breaking the hash in /etc/shadow, probably with bruteforce, which takes several days on a very fast computer... [08:05] DVD Encoder OGMRip looks nice... has someone already tried it? [08:06] TheSheep: only several days? [08:06] hyper_ch: computers get faster every day === hyper_ch thinks his computer gets slower every day ;) [08:07] TheSheep, how would it take days? on a passord thats about 8 caractors long? could you just guess all the possibilities with in a pretty short amountg of time [08:07] 8 characters is much to hack [08:07] Jester45: count how many possibilities there are [08:07] i will when i get back [08:08] how many combinations per second? 50'000? [08:08] hyper_ch if i can just use knoppix to boot up and hopefully it will see the hd all i want to do is recover files i saved to the desktop and home folder [08:08] considering you only check 64 characters (lower and upper case, digits and some punctuation), you get 64^8 [08:08] unikon: you do not have /home on a seperate partition? === Arkh_ [n=Arkh@213-156-55-142.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu === C|-|R15 [n=chatzill@82.22.133.32] has left #xubuntu [] [08:09] unikon: you can just mount your partition from knoppix, chroot to it and use passwd to change the root password [08:09] hyper_ch: dthat doesn't matter [08:10] TheSheep: well, if /home is on a seperate drive he could just reinstall everything if he wanted [08:10] files on my desktop,firefox links,and other screenshots and such is all i want to recover then id be upgrading from 6.06 to the recent [08:11] 64^8=281474976710656 [08:12] and that is assuming no special characters [08:12] --> /86400 (seconds per day) = 4115131238 [08:13] it would talke some many days if you had one combo per second [08:13] now let's say 100'000 combos per second [08:13] it would still amount to 41'000 days === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:14] so 41 computers...with 100k attempts per second....still a whole day [08:14] vidd_laptop: no... 41k computers [08:14] hyper_ch: fortunately it's much faster, and you don't really try all combinations in the order of their length -- you first try words from the dictionary, then their combinations and modifications, then letter combinations common in human languages [08:15] sorry...my keyboard skips letters whenever it feals like it,,,,, [08:15] TheSheep: luckily I don't have such a password ;) [08:15] usually when it can make me look the most foolish! [08:16] hyper_ch: common letter replacements, like 0 for O or 5 for S are tried too === hyper_ch thinks the nsa could crack his pwd in 1 day... they have enough computers [08:16] TheSheep: doesn't work on mine... :) [08:16] hyper_ch: good for yuo [08:17] hyper_ch: that's provided they have access to your /etc/shadow === vidd_laptop uses special characters that are not found on most us keyboards [08:17] I use a key phrase from where I select for each word a specific letter... perfectly rememberable but hard to find out [08:17] hyper_ch: yeah, these tend to be best [08:18] for example: Cesar - De Bello Gallico starts like this: Gallia omnia est divisa in partes tres --> G03d1p3 [08:18] just as a possible example [08:18] something one can remember [08:19] hyper_ch: you could just have a 64-characters long password in morse ;) [08:19] TheSheep: I only now very few letters in morse... like the S and O and E and A [08:19] +k [08:21] I even created a password like that one above for my mom and she really can remember it :) [08:21] hyper_ch: --.. .. . .-- ...-.- [08:21] my mother uses the Ultra-Secure password...pa55w0rd [08:22] vidd_laptop: all microsoft courses use p@ssw0rd :) [08:22] takes a hack all of about .16 seconds to crack [08:22] TheSheep: how do you know? [08:24] wow... nobody has any troubles... cool :) [08:24] I just read again that Nils Bohr joke... I still wonder if it is actually true [08:24] hyper_ch: http://helios.wmid.amu.edu.pl/~sheep/blog/cert.html [08:24] TheSheep: you have a blog? [08:25] hyper_ch: yes, at http://sheep.art.pl [08:25] iiieks... you are windoze certified? [08:25] Copying doesn't work.. I'll have to make new partitions :/ Two times 10GB? 10GB is far too small for Windows even 98SE to do anything.. [08:25] I need to shell out for a new hdd [08:25] DaBeowulf: xubuntu fits in 3GB [08:26] But UT2k4 doesn't :| [08:27] DaBeowulf: you could add ext2/3 support to windows... then you can read/write your linux partitions from windows... but I don't know if that works in win98se [08:27] hyper_ch, can you come to -offtopic to help me with my database issue? [08:29] Why doesn't it allow me to put proper links to the libraries there? It's just not possible? [08:29] you cannot symlink to a fat partition [08:30] But I can read and write to it O_o [08:30] ah but not the other way and that or something like it is the catch here? [08:30] DaBeowulf: yes, but the way it stores files doesn't allow you to set unix-like permissions or symbolic links on it [08:31] DaBeowulf: the files don't even have their owner and group [08:32] I would ditch Win completely if I was not going to a LAN next saturday.. === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B97012.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B97012.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:33] TheSheep: you're into anime? === slow-motion [n=JohnDoe@p5B06E154.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:35] hyper_ch: yes, not fanatically though [08:35] hyper_ch: more into manga [08:35] im gonna go offline for a bit to do some testing bbl if i need more help === cornelius [n=co@p57B657C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:35] hi [08:35] hi cornelius [08:35] TheSheep: all the same.. :) btw, got a new guestbook entry [08:35] hallo [08:36] someone speaking german in here ? ;-) [08:36] !de [08:36] Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de [08:36] I just <3 how I never have to reboot and my whole RAM can get used and Doom3 performs so much better than in Win98SE(k that's not supported by ID for a reason most likely :P) on the same hardware that it is unbelievable. [08:36] thanks a lot [08:36] I'm german. :D [08:36] I'm not German but I understand most of it ;) [08:37] sehr schln:) [08:37] i try to improve my english [08:38] bbl, Jakie Chan in tv :) [08:38] hot asian ladies ftw =o [08:39] I got to cut down on that gamer lingo and its abbreviations in here. [08:41] Anyway thanks for trying to help. [08:46] Ha I'll try only copying the whole UT2k4 System dir to my tiny Xubuntu partition and adjust the pathes in the ini. :) === kmindi[1] [n=noname@dslb-088-064-150-149.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #xubuntu === cornelius [n=co@p57B657C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #xubuntu ["ciao"] === bulio [n=bulio@about/chess/king] has joined #xubuntu [08:54] how can I unmount my drive /dev/hda5? [08:55] I think thunar keeps disallowing me to [08:55] bulio: close all apps that access it [08:55] and then in a terminal: sudo umount /dev/hda5 [08:55] its a storage partition [08:56] I tried umount [08:56] doesnt allow me to unmount it [08:56] device is busy [08:57] did you do what I said? [08:57] how do I close thunar? [08:57] its the only thing accessing it [08:58] close it [08:58] bulio, I had the same issue, There is a bug someware. For me it went away after some update. [08:59] Atleast i think it whas the same issue [09:00] I update in synaptic or apt-get? [09:00] bulio: whatever you prefer... I prefer aptitude [09:00] Same thing [09:00] ok [09:00] I'll do an apt-get upgrade [09:01] then reboot? [09:01] bulio: in the ocmmand line: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [09:01] I did that [09:01] well, then a reboot isn't bad [09:01] ok [09:01] ill reboot now [09:02] :/ [09:02] You can just disable Thunar's auto-mounting feature. [09:02] but I like the auto-mounting feature [09:02] I just need to unmount it so that I can partition the drive [09:02] I have 30GB of free space that must be merged with the 50GB paritition [09:03] Then right-click on the drive's icon and there should be an option to do that. [09:03] says I need to be root [09:03] hm [09:03] run thunar as root? [09:03] bulio: sudo umount /dev/hda5 [09:03] tried it [09:03] oh ok === ashtar [n=ashtar@CPE00032f390ded-CM0011e67bbf01.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:04] hello, how do I get rid of the transparency in icons on desktop? [09:04] What does `lsof /dev/hda5` return? === kmindi[1] is now known as kmindi [09:08] Hmm I had to link libstdc++.so.5 from /usr/lib32 as well and when I now try to run the game I get "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32" [09:09] It's expecting it to not be a symlink. [09:09] ^ That when I try the AMD64 bin and the same error only with libSDL-1.2.so.0 when trying the normal bin [09:09] Oh okay so I'll copy the files they link to there and name them what the links are called at the moment? [09:10] Wait, where did you link it to? [09:11] Pumpernickel, Thunar 4850 bulio 21r DIR 3,5 4096 2 /media/hda5 [09:12] I used the commands found here: http://www.holarse-linuxgaming.de/h2006/comments/Unreal+Tournament+2004 (from bottom just above links) [09:12] bulio: Kill that process and then try umounting the drive. [09:12] ln -s /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.5 /home/stefan/Desktop/System/libstdc++.so.5 for instance [09:12] killall thunar? [09:12] bulio: Yeah. [09:13] thunar: no process killed [09:13] DaBeowulf: Sorry, I jumped to what I think was the wrong conclusion, originally. [09:13] bulio: Thunar. [09:13] oh [09:13] Linux is case-sensitive. [09:13] yeah [09:13] worked [09:13] thanks [09:14] DaBeowulf: That error seems to occurr when the application is expecting the library to be the other of 32/64 bit. [09:14] e.g; expecting a 64bit library, but finding a 32bit one. [09:14] what would be the best partition editior to merge two partitions? [09:15] GParted. [09:15] I'm using it [09:15] bulio: but backup your data first [09:15] but it won't allow me to add 32GB of unallocated space to /dev/hda5 [09:15] bulio: both partitions must be unmounted [09:15] must I make the unallocated space a partition first? [09:16] hyper_ch, the unallocated nor hda5 is mounted [09:16] bulio: The partitions would have to be sequential. [09:16] what do you mean? [09:16] |--hda5--|--free space--| [09:16] bulio: there must not be another partition between hda5 and the unallocatoed space [09:17] As opposed to |--hda5--|--something else--|--free space--| [09:17] there isnt right now [09:17] it goes swap---/---unallocated----/dev/hda5 [09:17] that should be ok [09:18] but where is the option to extend hda5? [09:19] wait, encompassing all the partitions is "extended", which is /dev/hda2 [09:19] it is the size of my harddisk [09:19] b ulio can't you modifi /dev/hda5/ [09:20] I think I need to partition the unallocated space first [09:20] I'm partitioning it to ext3 [09:20] bulio: right-click /dev/hda5 [09:20] and then select resize/move [09:20] I did [09:20] in gparted [09:20] but it only allows me to go up to 50GB [09:20] not 90 like it should [09:20] can you make a screenshot? [09:20] Hmm so where would I go if I wanted to obtain the 64bit libstdc++.so.5 ? [09:21] DaBeowulf: http://package.ubuntu.com [09:21] Thanks. [09:21] screenshot in one second [09:22] but why are 64bit libararies needed? [09:22] vidd_laptop: how you're coming along? [09:22] hyper_ch, you rock.... [09:22] I dunno, it's a special amd64 bin as it seems. [09:22] vidd_laptop: that wasn't the question ;) [09:22] im now happily typing away in my new blog [09:23] DaBeowulf: I doubt that they run on a 32bit os... [09:23] http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4388/lookxg8.png [09:23] i had to purge the old...but it was only one entry...NBD [09:23] vidd_laptop: to your domain name, you also need to add the "www" otherwise the content of your IP shows ;) [09:23] hrm.... [09:24] aliasing must be done [09:24] Hmm, I'm on FF AMD64, not? === vidd_laptop runs over to the apache config files [09:24] see anything odd in the screenshot? [09:25] bulio: nope... it should display there preceeding free space [09:25] vidd_laptop: you'll manage [09:25] so what could be wrong then? [09:26] bulio: no clue :) do you still have data on /dev/hda5? [09:26] yes [09:26] and I need it [09:26] bulio: do you have backups of that data? [09:26] at present, no [09:26] bulio: then don't mess around with it [09:26] so create a bew partition? [09:26] bulio: always have backups when messing around partition tables... [09:26] *new [09:27] because if something messes up... the data is gone... [09:27] and once you have backups... you can easily also delete the /dev/hda5 one and create it new ;) [09:27] yeah [09:28] but actually, I dunno why you can enlarge the partition.... [09:28] but before you try anything, make backups [09:29] I am [09:31] ;) [09:31] it's also good practice to make regular backups ;) === adam0509 [n=benoit@stc92-1-82-227-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:33] hyper_ch, looks like im going to have to go googling for that fix,,,, [09:33] vidd_laptop: somewhere in the vhost section it should be set [09:34] vidd_laptop: but you'll find out ;) [09:34] yeah [09:34] eventually.... [09:35] ;) [09:35] *groan* =] [09:35] but all the better to LEARN from [09:36] vidd_laptop: google for: apache2 domain alias --> 1st result looks promising [09:36] If everything went super smooth....waht would i have learned [09:36] ill be back [09:36] did you use the howtoforge setup? [09:36] [work is demanding my time [09:37] hyper_ch, no....can you give me a link? [09:38] http://www.google.ch/search?q=apache2+domain+alias&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B95BE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === deep` [n=deep@c-922a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu === Arkham__ [n=Arkh@213-156-55-142.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu === bulio [n=bulio@about/chess/king] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === maxamillion [n=adam@mobile-166-217-186-235.mycingular.net] has joined #xubuntu === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === Arkh_ [n=Arkh@213-156-55-142.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu === usr_rob_ [n=robert@c-22dae055.105-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu [09:59] do someone know how to desactivate transparency using withour removing option composite ?? [09:59] Because it's good to desactivate transparency before playing a game... === deep`_ [n=deep@c-9a2a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu [10:02] adam0509: you can just go into the window manager tweaks settings in the settings manager and uncheck the check boxes about the transparency, play your game and then re-check when you are done [10:03] 1) They're is no "box" but only bar [10:03] 2) Panel use transparency too [10:04] (and panel don't have box but only bar) [10:05] adam0509: oh ... huh, sure does ... my mistake [10:05] Ha there seems to have been a FAQ somewhere that I missed.. I found a solution to my problem from the looks of it. === deep`__ [n=deep@c-9b2a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu === darrend_ [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === darrend_ is now known as darrend [10:16] Is it bad to try sudo apt-get install libstdc++5 when it already shipped with XubuntuFF(AMD64) just not in 64 bit? [10:17] well and is it any good? === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.41] has joined #xubuntu === stanks [n=stanks@89-172-10-222.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #xubuntu [10:20] hello [10:21] hi [10:21] lo o/ [10:21] i need some help with my sound card [10:21] hi, when I type sudo su appears must be setuid root [10:21] i was on ubuntu forums but everything i have found didn't solve the problem [10:21] i can play mp3's, watch movies, etc. all with sound [10:22] but when i run xdtv (for watching tv) there is no sound [10:22] recording from xdtv saves sound too, but when i only watch tv there is nos sound [10:23] i tried with latest realtek-linux-audiopack but again no sound in xdtv [10:24] anyone have any idea about this [10:24] artabrahao: why would you need to sudo su? [10:25] stanks: there is probably just a setting in xdtv thats not pointing to the right sound device, that happened to me before with gxine [10:25] stanks, is it possible that another app is grabbing your sound card? [10:26] hi, when I type sudo su appears must be setuid root thing I user chmod in / in the wrong form [10:27] vidd_laptop: no [10:27] maxamillion: what setting? i didn't found anything where i can change alsa or oss or else [10:27] artabrahao: why would you need to sudo su? [10:28] stanks: i dunno, i've never used xdtv [10:28] btw after i install and restart my comp mplayer starts without sound too (alsa set as deafult -ao) [10:29] after i install realtek-linux-audiopack [10:29] i have [10:29] Card: HDA NVidia [10:29] Chip: Realtek ALC888 [10:32] hmmm....i tried xdtv with oss but no sound again [10:32] :( [10:33] ALSA lib pcm.c:2144:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM /dev/snd [10:33] ALSA lib pcm.c:2144:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM /dev/snd [10:33] *** AUDIO DEVICE TYPE = oss [10:33] ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL /dev/mixer [10:33] snd_mixer_open: Nema takve datoteke ili direktorija [10:33] *** MIXER DEVICE TYPE = oss [10:33] !pastebin | stanks [10:33] stanks: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) === luisbg [n=d33p@205.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #xubuntu [10:33] sorry [10:33] its ok [10:36] to install some packages [10:37] what is the default chmod for / ? [10:38] xdtv is built with alsa [10:38] and oss === usr_rob_ [n=robert@c-22dae055.105-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu === stanks [n=stanks@89-172-10-222.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #xubuntu ["Konversation] [10:43] Okay here is an easy one: How does a full path specification look in Linux? >_< [10:45] DaBeowulf: /home/userName/Desktop/someFile.txt [10:45] So just beginning with a slash? [10:45] Damn I think I tried that.. [10:46] There's no C:\ equivalent? [10:47] DaBeowulf: / is the C:\ equivalent [10:48] DaBeowulf: / = root directory .... C:\ = some alienated stupid concept microsoft came up with that essentially translates to "root directory" [10:48] And when I just end in a path that'd look like this /home or /home/ [10:51] DaBeowulf: either will work [10:51] DaBeowulf: /home/ is more formal though === ceil420 [n=Ceil@71-11-245-60.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [11:07] maxamillion: hi...I need to ask you about a couple of things...it's off topic...should I pm you? [11:07] !planeshift [11:07] Sorry, I don't know anything about planeshift - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi === GrueTamer [n=gruetame@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [11:16] grazie: you can either pm me or just join #xubuntu-offtopic ... which ever you prefer === battra [n=asmaiya@adsl-68-20-27-202.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu === battra [n=asmaiya@adsl-68-20-27-202.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has left #xubuntu [] [11:31] .join #xubuntu-offtopic [11:31] ar [11:32] :P === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu