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| xerosis | how hard would bug #44778 be to fix? | 12:16 |
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| ubotu | Launchpad bug 44778 in kdebase "kpager: 'Launch pager' seems to do nothing" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44778 | 12:16 |
| fdoving | xerosis: works for me. | 12:19 |
| xerosis | do you have kpager installed? | 12:19 |
| fdoving | yes. | 12:19 |
| xerosis | default gutsy doesn't have kpager installed | 12:20 |
| fdoving | yeah, that's right, it doesn't use kdebase, like i always do. | 12:21 |
| xerosis | so it'd be nice to either grey it out, or remove it if it's not installed | 12:21 |
| fdoving | add the package as a depend is the easiest. | 12:21 |
| xerosis | that's out of my area... | 12:22 |
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| giangy | fdoving: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146605 | 12:26 |
| ubotu | KDE bug 146605 in general "Kicker fails to add Icon= value on .desktop files" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 12:26 |
| fdoving | confirmed. | 12:27 |
| giangy | thanks | 12:29 |
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| mhb | fdoving: hi | 01:23 |
| fdoving | mhb: hi. | 01:23 |
| mhb | fdoving: the fix to bug 108870 will most likely be deprecated with gdebi-kde | 01:25 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 108870 in kubuntu-default-settings "[Feisty regression] install two or more debian files with right click on them and install doesn't work" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108870 | 01:25 |
| fdoving | mhb: when is that finished? | 01:25 |
| mhb | fdoving: if all goes well then at the end of this month. | 01:27 |
| fdoving | good :) | 01:27 |
| fdoving | the fixed scripts are there anyway. i did them long time ago. | 01:27 |
| fdoving | didn't make it into feisty because ri.dell found the wrong bugreport, with the wrong fix, dupe of course. | 01:28 |
| mhb | heh, sorry to hear that. I wanted to let you know that you don't have to work on those anymore :o) | 01:28 |
| fdoving | finshed, tested, and confirmed to work well :) | 01:29 |
| fdoving | mhb: will the gdebi-kde executable be named gdebi-kde? - 'kdebi' would be a nice alias/symlink/name. | 01:30 |
| mhb | fdoving: it's not set in stone, but there's the "gdebi" CLI, then the "gdebi-gtk" GNOME interface, so "gdebi-kde" seems natural | 01:32 |
| fdoving | you know, all kde apps start with a k :) | 01:33 |
| fdoving | most.. anyway. :) | 01:33 |
| mhb | I KNow | 01:34 |
| fdoving | gdebi depends on gnome-icon-theme | 01:34 |
| fdoving | is that neccessary for a cli thing? | 01:34 |
| mhb | fdoving: the "gdebi" package contains both the CLI and the GNOME frontend | 01:35 |
| fdoving | ouch. | 01:35 |
| fdoving | so, what is gdebi-gtk for? | 01:35 |
| fdoving | ah. | 01:36 |
| fdoving | nevermind. | 01:36 |
| fdoving | gdebi-core is /usr/bin/gdebi | 01:36 |
| fdoving | gdebi is /usr/bin/gdebi-gtk | 01:36 |
| fdoving | kdebi /usr/bin/kdebi | 01:36 |
| fdoving | :) | 01:36 |
| mhb | heh :o) | 01:36 |
| fdoving | we could use gdebi already. | 01:38 |
| fdoving | instead of dpkg in that script. | 01:39 |
| fdoving | install gdebi-core, it installs without fetching any depends on a clean gutsy. | 01:39 |
| mhb | yeah, we could...but now it is kind of pointless .o) | 01:41 |
| fdoving | in a month, yeah :) | 01:42 |
| fdoving | need to add gdebi-core anyway, right? | 01:42 |
| mhb | I presume so | 01:42 |
| mhb | yes | 01:42 |
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| fdoving | ouch, hardcoded paths. | 01:43 |
| fdoving | /home/martin/processing/soc/gdebi-kde/branch/gdebi-kde/gdebi-kde: :) | 01:44 |
| mhb | fdoving: someone's been checking code that's not supposed to work :o) | 01:45 |
| fdoving | who, me? :) | 01:45 |
| fdoving | the commit messages says it was able to install a package :) | 01:46 |
| mhb | fdoving: nothing about all stuff in PATH, though | 01:46 |
| fdoving | mhb: how does translations work in python? | 01:47 |
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| mhb | fdoving: it's gettext like everywhere else, you can say | 01:48 |
| fdoving | ok. | 01:48 |
| fdoving | no i18n, like c++. | 01:48 |
| mhb | fdoving: hmm, no you got me | 01:49 |
| mhb | now | 01:49 |
| mhb | fdoving: gettext works. | 01:50 |
| fdoving | ok, i just noticed you didn't use tr() or i18n(). | 01:50 |
| fdoving | i know powermanager uses tr() in python. | 01:51 |
| mhb | hmm, true | 01:51 |
| mhb | fdoving: thanks for the point. I think both are available, but I don't know the difference. | 01:51 |
| fdoving | and mvo doesn't use tr() in the rest of gdebi. | 01:52 |
| RadiantFire | I worked on a program in python and we used gettext _() | 01:54 |
| RadiantFire | not sure what was up with that | 01:54 |
| RadiantFire | but it worked | 01:54 |
| fdoving | i'm sure it works perfectly. | 01:54 |
| fdoving | i don't know python at all. | 01:55 |
| RadiantFire | gasp! you sin against the ubuntu gods! | 01:55 |
| RadiantFire | ;-) | 01:55 |
| fdoving | ubuntu.py 7.10 :) | 01:55 |
| fdoving | kubuntu.cpp 7.10 :) | 01:55 |
| fdoving | well.. i need to go sleep a little. | 01:55 |
| fdoving | nite. | 01:55 |
| RadiantFire | nite | 01:56 |
| fdoving | mhb: keep up the good work, looks promising even though you had a hardcoded path in there, i found it :) | 01:56 |
| mhb | fdoving: yeah, I'm kicking those tiny evil gnomes out right now | 01:57 |
| RadiantFire | laters mhb | 01:57 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: goodnight | 01:57 |
| RadiantFire | time to go sleep on my ideas... or perhaps fold laundry on them | 01:58 |
| RadiantFire | but that can be put off too :-) | 01:58 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: good luck with that :o) | 02:01 |
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| Riddell | manchicken|away: I have been keeping my changes in your branch in KDE's subversion | 02:20 |
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| jjesse | stupid question for kde 3.5.7 on feisty what do i have to differently? | 02:34 |
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| Jucato | jjesse: are you there? | 04:50 |
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| nixternal | oi oi | 04:58 |
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| Hobbsee | fdoving: if you're going to milestone things, then either find someone who's going to fix them, and assign it as such, or fix it yourself, and assign it as such. | 08:49 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: please dont assign to kubuntu-team - it doesnt actually do anything. | 08:49 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: and i will hunt you when we get close to tribe 2, for the bugs you've marked as milestone, but havent fixed - either by delegation, or action. | 08:50 |
| === Hobbsee thought we installed kpager by deafult, actually | ||
| Hobbsee | oh wait, we dont even install kdebase | 08:51 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: i'm also assuming that you'll do a full debdiff for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/108870 - i'll sponsor it for you, if you like | 08:56 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 108870 in kubuntu-default-settings "[Feisty regression] install two or more debian files with right click on them and install doesn't work" [Low,In progress] | 08:56 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: we have the desktop pager kicker applet. but not the standalone kpager app | 08:57 |
| Jucato | sigh... looks like I'll have to settle for CGI:IRC later.... :( | 08:58 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: oh interesting. i wonder why. | 08:59 |
| Hobbsee | okay, kubuntu-default-settings package looks simple | 08:59 |
| nixternal | oi oi | 09:01 |
| nixternal | rm -C from the aspell stuff where it is...I am guessing somewhere in k-d-s | 09:02 |
| Hobbsee | !codecs | 09:02 |
| ubotu | For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 09:02 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: hrm? | 09:02 |
| nixternal | there is a boog, where catdog is actually correctly spelled because we ship aspell with the -C flag | 09:03 |
| nixternal | -C meaning run-together is good | 09:03 |
| Jucato | well, I'm off. see youz laterz :) | 09:05 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: poke | 09:09 |
| nixternal | yup | 09:09 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: the documentation is failing me here | 09:09 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: what packages do you need for all the restricted stuff? | 09:09 |
| Hobbsee | like, mp3, dvd, etc | 09:09 |
| nixternal | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats | 09:10 |
| nixternal | there is a lot | 09:10 |
| Hobbsee | tell me which ones we still need - as thta's what i'm looking at | 09:10 |
| nixternal | libdvdread, libxine-extracodecs, liblame? ummmm | 09:10 |
| Hobbsee | Currently, the proposed apps to go into kubuntu-restricted-extras, are: | 09:10 |
| Hobbsee | * libxine1-plugins (libxine1-ffmpeg replaces libxine-extracodecs, and is a dependancy of libxine1-plugins) | 09:10 |
| Hobbsee | * flashplugin-nonfree | 09:10 |
| Hobbsee | * sun-java6-plugin | 09:10 |
| Hobbsee | * libdvdread3 | 09:10 |
| Hobbsee | liblame? | 09:10 |
| nixternal | dunno why libxine1-plugins would be needed...the libxine-extracodecs would..that gives you mp3 support | 09:11 |
| Hobbsee | how much is that used? | 09:11 |
| Hobbsee | replaced by libxine-ffmpeg, which is a dep of -plugins | 09:11 |
| nixternal | liblame is used for ripping mp3s | 09:11 |
| nixternal | ahhh, so extracodecs are replaced...gotcha | 09:12 |
| Hobbsee | do you need lame, or liblame? | 09:12 |
| Hobbsee | oh ick | 09:12 |
| nixternal | dunno..I don't use either...I rip everything to ogg vorbis | 09:13 |
| Hobbsee | sent to ML to ask for discussion | 09:13 |
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| Hobbsee | i'd really prefer not to hardcode a deb on liblame0 :P | 09:15 |
| fdoving | Hobbsee: for two of the bugs the solution is posted in comments, the third is 6 letters in debian/control, i can debdiff it or commit it to the kubuntu-default-settings bzr. | 09:15 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: either is good. | 09:15 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: bzr's better, come to think of it, i guess | 09:15 |
| fdoving | Hobbsee: but, i'm not sure i will, as mhb is making gdebi-kde, which makes my hack obsolete. | 09:17 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: when will it be finished by? | 09:18 |
| Hobbsee | (we can always revert - although hacks can bring more bugs in) | 09:18 |
| fdoving | Hobbsee: i won't do anything about kpager, that's 6 letters, doesn't qualify for a debdiff. could have commited it if kubuntu-meta was managed in bzr. but it's not. | 09:18 |
| fdoving | Hobbsee: he said ~end of this month to me last night. | 09:18 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: it's seed based, anyway. | 09:18 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: okay, cool | 09:18 |
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| Hobbsee | fdoving: seeds and such gets tricky - adn it is in bzr. | 09:19 |
| Hobbsee | (and you need to be in core to be able to commit to it) | 09:19 |
| fdoving | i know, i have them checkedout. | 09:19 |
| fdoving | Hobbsee: but the seeds are just a list of packages, the depends will be auto-added. so, if you update kubuntu-desktop to depend on kpager, it'll be added to the cd without modifying the seeds. | 09:21 |
| fdoving | isn't it? | 09:21 |
| Hobbsee | from what i understand, you've either got it around the wrong way, or you're trying to do something really crackful. | 09:21 |
| Hobbsee | you modify the seeds, commit to bzr, run the update script from kubuntu-meta, and it autogenerates from there. | 09:22 |
| fdoving | yep. | 09:22 |
| Hobbsee | not the other way around | 09:22 |
| Hobbsee | so if you're suggesting just adding to the control file... | 09:24 |
| Hobbsee | i more meant the other 2, with solutions posted in comments, but not a full debdiff / upload for it | 09:25 |
| fdoving | i'm suggesting it will be auto-added as a depend. | 09:25 |
| Hobbsee | in fact, if you're in kubuntu-members, youshould be able to commit to k-d-s... | 09:25 |
| fdoving | i am. | 09:25 |
| fdoving | ok, but i'll stop touching bugs. i really don't have time to finish everything, posting the solution should make it easy for others to debdiff->upload. if you don't want me to do it i'll do something else. | 09:26 |
| fdoving | i was thinking of milestoing as a way to show others this bug has a solution and should it should be included before release X. | 09:27 |
| fdoving | If i did everything myself milestoning wasn't neccesary, i would know when i needed to upload it. | 09:28 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: sorry, i'm not griping at you for milestoning - my problem is that you've assigned them to kubuntu team, which doesnt actually do anything. | 09:30 |
| Hobbsee | it's fine to say "the patch is there, hobbsee, please find someone to take care of it" or wahtever | 09:30 |
| Hobbsee | i see them with release engineering stuff nayway | 09:30 |
| === Hobbsee just doesnt want them to get lost thru the cracks :) | ||
| Hobbsee | and i didnt want to duplicate, or get others to duplicate your work | 09:30 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: that was all | 09:30 |
| === Hobbsee is a little hesitant to touch seeds, as to what we want to randomly add, etc. | ||
| Hobbsee | fdoving: the bug stuff is cool - dont give it up :) | 09:32 |
| fdoving | i won't, you can make the debdiff if you like the solution :) | 09:32 |
| Hobbsee | it's like assigning to ubuntu bugs. "ubuntu bugs will do this work" "yes, but who is ubuntu bugs?" "a team with a mailing list. it's been proven that teams often dont do the work, it's usually an individual person that does" | 09:33 |
| fdoving | then i can continue reading my Qt4 book. | 09:33 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:33 |
| fdoving | i know kubuntu-team doesn't do much work, but assigning to it puts it in a nice list in launchpad. | 09:33 |
| fdoving | not assigned to joe random-reported that doesn't know what assigning means. | 09:34 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, that too. twitch. | 09:34 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 09:34 |
| Hobbsee | errr, flash-plugin is getting thrown out of ubuntu, isnt it? | 09:37 |
| Hobbsee | flashplugin-nonfree | 09:37 |
| fdoving | is it? - i have no clue. | 09:37 |
| Hobbsee | there was talk on kubuntu-users@ about it | 09:39 |
| Hobbsee | iirc | 09:39 |
| === Hobbsee looks into throwing it on bzr | ||
| crimsun | blink? | 09:47 |
| Hobbsee | hi crimsun | 09:47 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: as in, from a canonical employee. | 09:47 |
| crimsun | sorry, meaning a Canonical employee stated it? | 09:49 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: hmm. perhpas not. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2007-June/017541.html | 09:51 |
| Hobbsee | oh sorry, that's acroread | 09:51 |
| Hobbsee | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2007-June/017446.html | 09:51 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: dont mind me. | 09:51 |
| crimsun | I'm a bit perplexed, though. | 10:13 |
| crimsun | I wonder if those items will be repackaged and placed in -commercial. | 10:13 |
| crimsun | Isn't this what CnR was supposed to offer? | 10:14 |
| Hobbsee | you'd think so | 10:14 |
| fdoving | Hobbsee: want to make a k-d-s upload if i commit the changes to fix #108870 ? | 10:29 |
| Hobbsee | bug 108870 | 10:30 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 108870 in kubuntu-default-settings "[Feisty regression] install two or more debian files with right click on them and install doesn't work" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108870 | 10:30 |
| Hobbsee | sure | 10:30 |
| fdoving | Hobbsee: commited. | 10:37 |
| fdoving | to https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu | 10:38 |
| Hobbsee | cool | 10:43 |
| Hobbsee | oh woo. | 10:44 |
| Hobbsee | i dont actually have the bzr tree downloaded | 10:44 |
| === Hobbsee fetches | ||
| fdoving | it's huge for some reason. | 10:46 |
| fdoving | as in ~22M for text files. | 10:47 |
| fdoving | .bzr history is 14M. | 10:47 |
| Hobbsee | sheesh | 10:47 |
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| Hobbsee | i wonder what on aerth is in there, if there's so much | 10:50 |
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| fdoving | history of the package, anything commited and later removed. | 11:24 |
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| xerosis | is there anywhere easy bugs to fix are listed? | 11:48 |
| Hobbsee | usually they're tagged with "bitesize" | 11:48 |
| Hobbsee | but people seem to fix them faster than tagging mroe of them" | 11:49 |
| xerosis | makes sense | 11:49 |
| xerosis | i'm just looking for some easy hacking as my coding is okay, but i'm not that familiar with qt | 11:51 |
| Hobbsee | ahh, well fi you're looking for qt stuff to do, then that's not going to be in bitesize anyway | 11:54 |
| xerosis | well, not neccessarily qt, just want to fix some bugs :) | 11:55 |
| Hobbsee | hrm | 11:56 |
| Hobbsee | well, one asnwer is "find a metapackage of kde, look for something interesting to fix" | 11:56 |
| xerosis | that is what i am doing :) | 11:57 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: we should include the required plugins for k3b into k-r-e | 12:02 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: the mp3 encoding ones | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: got a list of what they are? | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | either here or on hte ML | 12:02 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: I'll post on the ML | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | cool | 12:03 |
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| Arby | does anyone know if there are known issues with grub following the latest (feisty) kernel update? | 02:32 |
| Arby | I have 2.6.20-16 installed and it appears in menu.lst | 02:32 |
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| Arby | but it doesn't appear as an option in grub menu at boot | 02:32 |
| Arby | just wondering if this is a bug or something wrong with my setup | 02:33 |
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| Arby | rebooting, brb | 02:36 |
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| Arby | !patebin | 03:01 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about patebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 03:01 |
| Arby | !pastebin | 03:01 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 03:01 |
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| persia | Is there a Kubuntu equivalent to update-manager? If so, what is it called? | 04:56 |
| xerosis | persia: adept_updater? | 04:57 |
| persia | xerosis: Thanks a lot. | 04:58 |
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| apachelogger | xerosis: is that thing still not using pythong and the ubuntu-update-manager backend? | 05:02 |
| apachelogger | s/pythong/python | 05:02 |
| xerosis | apachelogger: just thought the question was more superficial | 05:04 |
| apachelogger | xerosis: :P | 05:05 |
| === apachelogger just thinks that the ubuntu thing is lot faster than the adept updater | ||
| apachelogger | actually I consider learning python, just because of beloved kubuntu :) | 05:06 |
| apachelogger | <-- ruby nerd | 05:06 |
| xerosis | it's a nice langauge :) | 05:06 |
| apachelogger | ruby is nicer imo ;-) | 05:06 |
| xerosis | looked at ruby but didn't really have much use for it :p | 05:06 |
| apachelogger | other way round for me | 05:06 |
| apachelogger | but hey, difference is not that big | 05:07 |
| xerosis | coming from java, everything is a nice change... | 05:07 |
| apachelogger | ^_^ | 05:07 |
| xerosis | afaict, adept only used app-install, nothing from ubuntu-update | 05:08 |
| RadiantFire | you don't live java? | 05:13 |
| RadiantFire | er, lik | 05:13 |
| RadiantFire | e | 05:13 |
| xerosis | i quite like it, just doing it for 2 solid years and hardly anything else melts your brain :p | 05:24 |
| RadiantFire | this is true | 05:34 |
| RadiantFire | the worst is randomly switching back and for between python and java now | 05:34 |
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| jjesse | jucato were you looking for me? | 05:41 |
| Arby | are there known problems with utf_8 encoding in feisty? | 05:43 |
| Arby | I'm triaging bugs and have found several that traceback to ' File "encodings/utf_8.py", line 16, in decode' | 05:43 |
| Arby | followed by variations on UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode bytes in position 29-30: invalid data | 05:44 |
| Arby | bug 118576 is one example | 05:44 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 118576 in adept "properties crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118576 | 05:44 |
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| Jucato | Tm_T: are you there? :( | 06:47 |
| Arby | does adept support displaying developer changelogs? | 06:47 |
| Arby | the changelog tab under $package > details is blank | 06:48 |
| Jucato | Arby: as of Feisty, yes | 06:48 |
| Arby | Jucato: seems to be broken for me | 06:48 |
| Arby | the developer changelog tab is blank | 06:48 |
| Arby | for all packages it seems | 06:48 |
| Arby | Jucato: does it work for you? | 06:49 |
| Jucato | hm... it takes a bit of time to download the changelog | 06:49 |
| Arby | well I've been waiting about 15-20 min so far | 06:49 |
| Arby | I was trying to reproduce bug 119089 | 06:50 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 119089 in adept "Unable to fetch the Developer Changelog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119089 | 06:50 |
| === Jucato tries | ||
| rbrunhuber | Where should i report tribe 1 bugs? | 06:53 |
| rbrunhuber | I found 3 now. | 06:54 |
| Jucato | Arby: I can't reliably reproduce it now because of my internet connection. I'll try when I get home | 06:55 |
| Arby | Jucato: OK thanks | 06:55 |
| Arby | Jucato: I tried running adept from terminal output is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25012/ | 06:56 |
| Arby | anything obviously wrong in that? | 06:56 |
| Arby | rbrunhuber: just file them in launchpad as normal | 06:56 |
| rbrunhuber | ok. I'll do | 06:57 |
| Arby | maybe mark them [Gutsy tribe1] 'blah' or something | 06:57 |
| Jucato | rbrunhuber: you could also probably try asking in #ubuntu+1 | 06:57 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: pong | 06:59 |
| Tm_T | I plugged my phone in, connected with kppp, apt-get dist-upgrade says: Fetched 44.7MB in 51s (868kB/s) | 07:00 |
| rbrunhuber | Tm_T : I want a phone like this too :-). | 07:02 |
| Tm_T | well, I noticed that there's no activity in kppp | 07:04 |
| Tm_T | looks like I have had adsl online from friday or earlier | 07:04 |
| === Tm_T slaps himself hard and repeatedly | ||
| Tm_T | Jucato: WHAAAAT! | 07:05 |
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| Tm_T | that was scary | 07:05 |
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| Tm_T | why I still have kppp active | 07:17 |
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| marseillai | hi | 09:21 |
| marseillai | a question! i've upgrade kima package with new upstream release. i have to send it to revu? | 09:22 |
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| mhb | 2 | 09:32 |
| mhb | (sorry) | 09:32 |
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| _StefanS_ | evening | 10:07 |
| Arby | hi _StefanS_ | 10:11 |
| _StefanS_ | anything happening, or usual slow sunday ? :) | 10:11 |
| Arby | usual slow sunday :) | 10:14 |
| Arby | brief bits of noise interspersed with long periods of silence :) | 10:14 |
| Arby | so I'm passing my time trying to squash bugs | 10:15 |
| fdoving | evening. | 10:23 |
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| _StefanS_ | hi fdoving | 10:26 |
| fdoving | hi stefans. | 10:26 |
| _StefanS_ | a fellow viking. | 10:27 |
| fdoving | yep :) | 10:28 |
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| === _StefanS_ wonders why tahoma was never a part of the msftcorefonts package, when verdana and all other are... ? | ||
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| fdoving | _StefanS_: i guess it's special, i've switched to the liberation fonts by redhat. | 10:50 |
| fdoving | used to use tahoma for everything, as it rocks. | 10:50 |
| Tm_T | yuk | 10:50 |
| === Tm_T uses DejaVu | ||
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: is the liberation thingys good? | 10:51 |
| _StefanS_ | Tm_T: I think dejavu is too big and not very nice to look at | 10:51 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: i'm not annoyed by them, so the answer must be yes. | 10:51 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: got a .deb for 'em? | 10:51 |
| Tm_T | _StefanS_: too big? | 10:51 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: no, i just installed them to ~/.fonts/ | 10:51 |
| _StefanS_ | Tm_T: yes, the kerning is not really my liking, they are far too wide | 10:51 |
| Tm_T | oki | 10:52 |
| _StefanS_ | a matter of taste really ;) | 10:52 |
| Tm_T | I mostly use monospace fonts | 10:52 |
| _StefanS_ | like everything | 10:52 |
| Tm_T | so... | 10:52 |
| _StefanS_ | uhm ok | 10:52 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: https://www.redhat.com/promo/fonts/ | 10:52 |
| _StefanS_ | thnx | 10:52 |
| Tm_T | _StefanS_: you know, I have ~20 terminal sessions open in my desktops | 10:53 |
| _StefanS_ | Tm_T: ick, thats alot :) | 10:53 |
| Tm_T | it's not | 10:53 |
| fdoving | luckily konsole can have tabs. | 10:53 |
| _StefanS_ | Tm_T: I mean, I like terminals, but I have a habit of always closing them for each command almost, might be better to them sticking around | 10:53 |
| fdoving | i usually have 3, with a bunch of tabs. | 10:53 |
| _StefanS_ | yes 3 is usually enough | 10:54 |
| Tm_T | fdoving: I use tabs ofcourse | 10:54 |
| _StefanS_ | ah cant wait to get my two new 200gb sata disks :D | 10:54 |
| Tm_T | I have, hmm, 6 Konsole open atm | 10:54 |
| fdoving | Tm_T: do you count tabs? | 10:55 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: do you need to include them in xorg.conf? | 10:56 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: the fonts i mean | 10:56 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: not at all, put them in ~/.fonts/ and run 'fc-cache -f' | 10:57 |
| _StefanS_ | ok | 10:57 |
| _StefanS_ | forgot about that fc-cache thingy ;) | 10:57 |
| fdoving | spoiled by GUIs :) | 10:57 |
| _StefanS_ | probably :D | 10:57 |
| _StefanS_ | you get lazy after a while hehe | 10:57 |
| fdoving | yeah, i've noticed that too. | 10:58 |
| fdoving | use for loops for everything. | 10:58 |
| Tm_T | fdoving: every tab is terminal session | 10:58 |
| _StefanS_ | wow they're actually pretty nice | 10:59 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: thanks for the tip, I think they're a good replacement actually | 11:00 |
| _StefanS_ | brb | 11:00 |
| fdoving | tm_t: then i have 8. :) | 11:00 |
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| _StefanS_ | back.. | 11:02 |
| _StefanS_ | the monospace is cool too I think | 11:02 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: yes, i use that too. | 11:04 |
| xerosis | any macbook users? | 11:33 |
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| mhb | xerosis: oh yes | 12:10 |
| mhb | xerosis: here is one | 12:10 |
| xerosis | mhb: works nice with kubuntu? | 12:10 |
| danimo | does anyone know how why some of my partitions do not have entries in /dev/disk/by-uuid/ ? | 12:11 |
| mhb | xerosis: works rather nicely | 12:11 |
| mhb | xerosis: although there are several glitches I found | 12:12 |
| mhb | xerosis: minor ones, though | 12:12 |
| xerosis | mhb: excellent, just bought one fairly spontaneously, figured i should check it worked alright | 12:12 |
| xerosis | mhb: what are they? | 12:12 |
| mhb | xerosis: the wireless card is behaving weirdly sometimes (reconnecting once per 10 minutes), the brightness keys dont work, when you use the "mute" key it wont mute... | 12:13 |
| xerosis | mhb: i can live with those | 12:14 |
| xerosis | mhb: did you keep a mac os partition? | 12:14 |
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