=== jjesse [n=jjesse@ppp-70-229-38-231.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:16] how hard would bug #44778 be to fix? [12:16] Launchpad bug 44778 in kdebase "kpager: 'Launch pager' seems to do nothing" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44778 [12:19] xerosis: works for me. [12:19] do you have kpager installed? [12:19] yes. [12:20] default gutsy doesn't have kpager installed [12:21] yeah, that's right, it doesn't use kdebase, like i always do. [12:21] so it'd be nice to either grey it out, or remove it if it's not installed [12:21] add the package as a depend is the easiest. [12:22] that's out of my area... === goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:26] fdoving: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146605 [12:26] KDE bug 146605 in general "Kicker fails to add Icon= value on .desktop files" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [12:27] confirmed. [12:29] thanks === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jonasp [i=jonas@i59F72853.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:23] fdoving: hi [01:23] mhb: hi. [01:25] fdoving: the fix to bug 108870 will most likely be deprecated with gdebi-kde [01:25] Launchpad bug 108870 in kubuntu-default-settings "[Feisty regression] install two or more debian files with right click on them and install doesn't work" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108870 [01:25] mhb: when is that finished? [01:27] fdoving: if all goes well then at the end of this month. [01:27] good :) [01:27] the fixed scripts are there anyway. i did them long time ago. [01:28] didn't make it into feisty because ri.dell found the wrong bugreport, with the wrong fix, dupe of course. [01:28] heh, sorry to hear that. I wanted to let you know that you don't have to work on those anymore :o) [01:29] finshed, tested, and confirmed to work well :) [01:30] mhb: will the gdebi-kde executable be named gdebi-kde? - 'kdebi' would be a nice alias/symlink/name. [01:32] fdoving: it's not set in stone, but there's the "gdebi" CLI, then the "gdebi-gtk" GNOME interface, so "gdebi-kde" seems natural [01:33] you know, all kde apps start with a k :) [01:33] most.. anyway. :) [01:34] I KNow [01:34] gdebi depends on gnome-icon-theme [01:34] is that neccessary for a cli thing? [01:35] fdoving: the "gdebi" package contains both the CLI and the GNOME frontend [01:35] ouch. [01:35] so, what is gdebi-gtk for? [01:36] ah. [01:36] nevermind. [01:36] gdebi-core is /usr/bin/gdebi [01:36] gdebi is /usr/bin/gdebi-gtk [01:36] kdebi /usr/bin/kdebi [01:36] :) [01:36] heh :o) [01:38] we could use gdebi already. [01:39] instead of dpkg in that script. [01:39] install gdebi-core, it installs without fetching any depends on a clean gutsy. [01:41] yeah, we could...but now it is kind of pointless .o) [01:42] in a month, yeah :) [01:42] need to add gdebi-core anyway, right? [01:42] I presume so [01:42] yes === nosrednaekim [n=nosredna@03-117.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:43] ouch, hardcoded paths. [01:44] /home/martin/processing/soc/gdebi-kde/branch/gdebi-kde/gdebi-kde: :) [01:45] fdoving: someone's been checking code that's not supposed to work :o) [01:45] who, me? :) [01:46] the commit messages says it was able to install a package :) [01:46] fdoving: nothing about all stuff in PATH, though [01:47] mhb: how does translations work in python? === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-117.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:48] fdoving: it's gettext like everywhere else, you can say [01:48] ok. [01:48] no i18n, like c++. [01:49] fdoving: hmm, no you got me [01:49] now [01:50] fdoving: gettext works. [01:50] ok, i just noticed you didn't use tr() or i18n(). [01:51] i know powermanager uses tr() in python. [01:51] hmm, true [01:51] fdoving: thanks for the point. I think both are available, but I don't know the difference. [01:52] and mvo doesn't use tr() in the rest of gdebi. [01:54] I worked on a program in python and we used gettext _() [01:54] not sure what was up with that [01:54] but it worked [01:54] i'm sure it works perfectly. [01:55] i don't know python at all. [01:55] gasp! you sin against the ubuntu gods! [01:55] ;-) [01:55] ubuntu.py 7.10 :) [01:55] kubuntu.cpp 7.10 :) [01:55] well.. i need to go sleep a little. [01:55] nite. [01:56] nite [01:56] mhb: keep up the good work, looks promising even though you had a hardcoded path in there, i found it :) [01:57] fdoving: yeah, I'm kicking those tiny evil gnomes out right now [01:57] laters mhb [01:57] RadiantFire: goodnight [01:58] time to go sleep on my ideas... or perhaps fold laundry on them [01:58] but that can be put off too :-) [02:01] RadiantFire: good luck with that :o) === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.104.165] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:20] manchicken|away: I have been keeping my changes in your branch in KDE's subversion === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-117.200.popsite.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === n8k99 [n=n8k99@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:34] stupid question for kde 3.5.7 on feisty what do i have to differently? === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A735CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.120.127] has joined #kubuntu-devel === firephoto_ [n=tom@pool-71-115-227-137.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === firephoto_ [n=tom@pool-71-115-227-137.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === apacheLAGger [n=me@N879P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.178.43] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:50] jjesse: are you there? === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.120.127] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:58] oi oi === hunger_t_ [n=tobias@p54a72c90.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@72.165.117.168] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.100.159] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:49] fdoving: if you're going to milestone things, then either find someone who's going to fix them, and assign it as such, or fix it yourself, and assign it as such. [08:49] fdoving: please dont assign to kubuntu-team - it doesnt actually do anything. [08:50] fdoving: and i will hunt you when we get close to tribe 2, for the bugs you've marked as milestone, but havent fixed - either by delegation, or action. === Hobbsee thought we installed kpager by deafult, actually [08:51] oh wait, we dont even install kdebase [08:56] fdoving: i'm also assuming that you'll do a full debdiff for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/108870 - i'll sponsor it for you, if you like [08:56] Launchpad bug 108870 in kubuntu-default-settings "[Feisty regression] install two or more debian files with right click on them and install doesn't work" [Low,In progress] [08:57] Hobbsee: we have the desktop pager kicker applet. but not the standalone kpager app [08:58] sigh... looks like I'll have to settle for CGI:IRC later.... :( [08:59] Jucato: oh interesting. i wonder why. [08:59] okay, kubuntu-default-settings package looks simple [09:01] oi oi [09:02] rm -C from the aspell stuff where it is...I am guessing somewhere in k-d-s [09:02] !codecs [09:02] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [09:02] nixternal: hrm? [09:03] there is a boog, where catdog is actually correctly spelled because we ship aspell with the -C flag [09:03] -C meaning run-together is good [09:05] well, I'm off. see youz laterz :) [09:09] nixternal: poke [09:09] yup [09:09] nixternal: the documentation is failing me here [09:09] nixternal: what packages do you need for all the restricted stuff? [09:09] like, mp3, dvd, etc [09:10] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats [09:10] there is a lot [09:10] tell me which ones we still need - as thta's what i'm looking at [09:10] libdvdread, libxine-extracodecs, liblame? ummmm [09:10] Currently, the proposed apps to go into kubuntu-restricted-extras, are: [09:10] * libxine1-plugins (libxine1-ffmpeg replaces libxine-extracodecs, and is a dependancy of libxine1-plugins) [09:10] * flashplugin-nonfree [09:10] * sun-java6-plugin [09:10] * libdvdread3 [09:10] liblame? [09:11] dunno why libxine1-plugins would be needed...the libxine-extracodecs would..that gives you mp3 support [09:11] how much is that used? [09:11] replaced by libxine-ffmpeg, which is a dep of -plugins [09:11] liblame is used for ripping mp3s [09:12] ahhh, so extracodecs are replaced...gotcha [09:12] do you need lame, or liblame? [09:12] oh ick [09:13] dunno..I don't use either...I rip everything to ogg vorbis [09:13] sent to ML to ask for discussion === Hobbsee wonders if shlib deps and such can be abused for kubuntu-restricted-extras [09:15] i'd really prefer not to hardcode a deb on liblame0 :P [09:15] Hobbsee: for two of the bugs the solution is posted in comments, the third is 6 letters in debian/control, i can debdiff it or commit it to the kubuntu-default-settings bzr. [09:15] fdoving: either is good. [09:15] fdoving: bzr's better, come to think of it, i guess [09:17] Hobbsee: but, i'm not sure i will, as mhb is making gdebi-kde, which makes my hack obsolete. [09:18] fdoving: when will it be finished by? [09:18] (we can always revert - although hacks can bring more bugs in) [09:18] Hobbsee: i won't do anything about kpager, that's 6 letters, doesn't qualify for a debdiff. could have commited it if kubuntu-meta was managed in bzr. but it's not. [09:18] Hobbsee: he said ~end of this month to me last night. [09:18] fdoving: it's seed based, anyway. [09:18] fdoving: okay, cool === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.100.159] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:19] fdoving: seeds and such gets tricky - adn it is in bzr. [09:19] (and you need to be in core to be able to commit to it) [09:19] i know, i have them checkedout. [09:21] Hobbsee: but the seeds are just a list of packages, the depends will be auto-added. so, if you update kubuntu-desktop to depend on kpager, it'll be added to the cd without modifying the seeds. [09:21] isn't it? [09:21] from what i understand, you've either got it around the wrong way, or you're trying to do something really crackful. [09:22] you modify the seeds, commit to bzr, run the update script from kubuntu-meta, and it autogenerates from there. [09:22] yep. [09:22] not the other way around [09:24] so if you're suggesting just adding to the control file... [09:25] i more meant the other 2, with solutions posted in comments, but not a full debdiff / upload for it [09:25] i'm suggesting it will be auto-added as a depend. [09:25] in fact, if you're in kubuntu-members, youshould be able to commit to k-d-s... [09:25] i am. [09:26] ok, but i'll stop touching bugs. i really don't have time to finish everything, posting the solution should make it easy for others to debdiff->upload. if you don't want me to do it i'll do something else. [09:27] i was thinking of milestoing as a way to show others this bug has a solution and should it should be included before release X. [09:28] If i did everything myself milestoning wasn't neccesary, i would know when i needed to upload it. [09:30] fdoving: sorry, i'm not griping at you for milestoning - my problem is that you've assigned them to kubuntu team, which doesnt actually do anything. [09:30] it's fine to say "the patch is there, hobbsee, please find someone to take care of it" or wahtever [09:30] i see them with release engineering stuff nayway === Hobbsee just doesnt want them to get lost thru the cracks :) [09:30] and i didnt want to duplicate, or get others to duplicate your work [09:30] fdoving: that was all === Hobbsee is a little hesitant to touch seeds, as to what we want to randomly add, etc. [09:32] fdoving: the bug stuff is cool - dont give it up :) [09:32] i won't, you can make the debdiff if you like the solution :) [09:33] it's like assigning to ubuntu bugs. "ubuntu bugs will do this work" "yes, but who is ubuntu bugs?" "a team with a mailing list. it's been proven that teams often dont do the work, it's usually an individual person that does" [09:33] then i can continue reading my Qt4 book. [09:33] hehe [09:33] i know kubuntu-team doesn't do much work, but assigning to it puts it in a nice list in launchpad. [09:34] not assigned to joe random-reported that doesn't know what assigning means. [09:34] yeah, that too. twitch. [09:34] :P [09:37] errr, flash-plugin is getting thrown out of ubuntu, isnt it? [09:37] flashplugin-nonfree [09:37] is it? - i have no clue. [09:39] there was talk on kubuntu-users@ about it [09:39] iirc === Hobbsee looks into throwing it on bzr [09:47] blink? [09:47] hi crimsun [09:47] crimsun: as in, from a canonical employee. [09:49] sorry, meaning a Canonical employee stated it? [09:51] crimsun: hmm. perhpas not. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2007-June/017541.html [09:51] oh sorry, that's acroread [09:51] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2007-June/017446.html [09:51] crimsun: dont mind me. [10:13] I'm a bit perplexed, though. [10:13] I wonder if those items will be repackaged and placed in -commercial. [10:14] Isn't this what CnR was supposed to offer? [10:14] you'd think so [10:29] Hobbsee: want to make a k-d-s upload if i commit the changes to fix #108870 ? [10:30] bug 108870 [10:30] Launchpad bug 108870 in kubuntu-default-settings "[Feisty regression] install two or more debian files with right click on them and install doesn't work" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108870 [10:30] sure [10:37] Hobbsee: commited. [10:38] to https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu [10:43] cool [10:44] oh woo. [10:44] i dont actually have the bzr tree downloaded === Hobbsee fetches [10:46] it's huge for some reason. [10:47] as in ~22M for text files. [10:47] .bzr history is 14M. [10:47] sheesh === Arby [n=richard@82.153.194.243] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:50] i wonder what on aerth is in there, if there's so much === Hobbsee attempts to uplaod [11:24] history of the package, anything commited and later removed. === hunger_t_ is now known as hunger === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442d5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442d5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442d5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442d5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:48] is there anywhere easy bugs to fix are listed? [11:48] usually they're tagged with "bitesize" [11:49] but people seem to fix them faster than tagging mroe of them" [11:49] makes sense [11:51] i'm just looking for some easy hacking as my coding is okay, but i'm not that familiar with qt [11:54] ahh, well fi you're looking for qt stuff to do, then that's not going to be in bitesize anyway [11:55] well, not neccessarily qt, just want to fix some bugs :) [11:56] hrm [11:56] well, one asnwer is "find a metapackage of kde, look for something interesting to fix" [11:57] that is what i am doing :) [12:02] Hobbsee: we should include the required plugins for k3b into k-r-e [12:02] Hobbsee: the mp3 encoding ones [12:02] mhb: got a list of what they are? [12:02] either here or on hte ML [12:02] Hobbsee: I'll post on the ML [12:03] cool === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aplg [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-67-143.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === IppatsuManXYZ [n=kvirc@213-140-19-123.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387D089.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-101-183.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,] === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442d5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@82.153.194.243] has joined #kubuntu-devel === huahua [n=huahua@60.20.59.253] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N875P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:32] does anyone know if there are known issues with grub following the latest (feisty) kernel update? [02:32] I have 2.6.20-16 installed and it appears in menu.lst === fabo [n=Fathi@fon38-2-82-225-46-230.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:32] but it doesn't appear as an option in grub menu at boot [02:33] just wondering if this is a bug or something wrong with my setup === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:36] rebooting, brb === Arby [n=richard@82.153.194.243] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meven [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-158-235.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:01] !patebin [03:01] Sorry, I don't know anything about patebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [03:01] !pastebin [03:01] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === wsjunior [n=wsjunior@201-88-26-158.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db441be.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === wsjunior [n=wsjunior@201-88-26-158.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@82.153.194.243] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180072196.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@M3153P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:56] Is there a Kubuntu equivalent to update-manager? If so, what is it called? [04:57] persia: adept_updater? [04:58] xerosis: Thanks a lot. === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [05:02] xerosis: is that thing still not using pythong and the ubuntu-update-manager backend? [05:02] s/pythong/python [05:04] apachelogger: just thought the question was more superficial [05:05] xerosis: :P === apachelogger just thinks that the ubuntu thing is lot faster than the adept updater [05:06] actually I consider learning python, just because of beloved kubuntu :) [05:06] <-- ruby nerd [05:06] it's a nice langauge :) [05:06] ruby is nicer imo ;-) [05:06] looked at ruby but didn't really have much use for it :p [05:06] other way round for me [05:07] but hey, difference is not that big [05:07] coming from java, everything is a nice change... [05:07] ^_^ [05:08] afaict, adept only used app-install, nothing from ubuntu-update [05:13] you don't live java? [05:13] er, lik [05:13] e [05:24] i quite like it, just doing it for 2 solid years and hardly anything else melts your brain :p [05:34] this is true [05:34] the worst is randomly switching back and for between python and java now === apacheLAGger [n=me@M3163P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db441be.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db441be.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:41] jucato were you looking for me? [05:43] are there known problems with utf_8 encoding in feisty? [05:43] I'm triaging bugs and have found several that traceback to ' File "encodings/utf_8.py", line 16, in decode' [05:44] followed by variations on UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode bytes in position 29-30: invalid data [05:44] bug 118576 is one example [05:44] Launchpad bug 118576 in adept "properties crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118576 === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F2A1E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@p5497765B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber_ [n=rbrunhub@p5497765B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [i=ca396246@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-bb0f89d2f2ba2617] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:47] Tm_T: are you there? :( [06:47] does adept support displaying developer changelogs? [06:48] the changelog tab under $package > details is blank [06:48] Arby: as of Feisty, yes [06:48] Jucato: seems to be broken for me [06:48] the developer changelog tab is blank [06:48] for all packages it seems [06:49] Jucato: does it work for you? [06:49] hm... it takes a bit of time to download the changelog [06:49] well I've been waiting about 15-20 min so far [06:50] I was trying to reproduce bug 119089 [06:50] Launchpad bug 119089 in adept "Unable to fetch the Developer Changelog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119089 === Jucato tries [06:53] Where should i report tribe 1 bugs? [06:54] I found 3 now. [06:55] Arby: I can't reliably reproduce it now because of my internet connection. I'll try when I get home [06:55] Jucato: OK thanks [06:56] Jucato: I tried running adept from terminal output is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25012/ [06:56] anything obviously wrong in that? [06:56] rbrunhuber: just file them in launchpad as normal [06:57] ok. I'll do [06:57] maybe mark them [Gutsy tribe1] 'blah' or something [06:57] rbrunhuber: you could also probably try asking in #ubuntu+1 [06:59] Jucato: pong [07:00] I plugged my phone in, connected with kppp, apt-get dist-upgrade says: Fetched 44.7MB in 51s (868kB/s) [07:02] Tm_T : I want a phone like this too :-). [07:04] well, I noticed that there's no activity in kppp [07:04] looks like I have had adsl online from friday or earlier === Tm_T slaps himself hard and repeatedly [07:05] Jucato: WHAAAAT! === Tm_T hides [07:05] that was scary === meven_ [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-40-16.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:17] why I still have kppp active === mbiebl [n=michael@e180072196.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@dD5E0D32D.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@p5497601C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:21] hi [09:22] a question! i've upgrade kima package with new upstream release. i have to send it to revu? === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db441be.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A72C90.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442e8.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === never [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442e8.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:32] 2 [09:32] (sorry) === manchicken__ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:07] <_StefanS_> evening [10:11] hi _StefanS_ [10:11] <_StefanS_> anything happening, or usual slow sunday ? :) [10:14] usual slow sunday :) [10:14] brief bits of noise interspersed with long periods of silence :) [10:15] so I'm passing my time trying to squash bugs [10:23] evening. === glatzor [n=sebi@p54965510.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:26] <_StefanS_> hi fdoving [10:26] hi stefans. [10:27] <_StefanS_> a fellow viking. [10:28] yep :) === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-008-023.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ wonders why tahoma was never a part of the msftcorefonts package, when verdana and all other are... ? === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@p5497601C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:50] _StefanS_: i guess it's special, i've switched to the liberation fonts by redhat. [10:50] used to use tahoma for everything, as it rocks. [10:50] yuk === Tm_T uses DejaVu [10:51] <_StefanS_> fdoving: is the liberation thingys good? [10:51] <_StefanS_> Tm_T: I think dejavu is too big and not very nice to look at [10:51] _StefanS_: i'm not annoyed by them, so the answer must be yes. [10:51] <_StefanS_> fdoving: got a .deb for 'em? [10:51] _StefanS_: too big? [10:51] _StefanS_: no, i just installed them to ~/.fonts/ [10:51] <_StefanS_> Tm_T: yes, the kerning is not really my liking, they are far too wide [10:52] oki [10:52] <_StefanS_> a matter of taste really ;) [10:52] I mostly use monospace fonts [10:52] <_StefanS_> like everything [10:52] so... [10:52] <_StefanS_> uhm ok [10:52] _StefanS_: https://www.redhat.com/promo/fonts/ [10:52] <_StefanS_> thnx [10:53] _StefanS_: you know, I have ~20 terminal sessions open in my desktops [10:53] <_StefanS_> Tm_T: ick, thats alot :) [10:53] it's not [10:53] luckily konsole can have tabs. [10:53] <_StefanS_> Tm_T: I mean, I like terminals, but I have a habit of always closing them for each command almost, might be better to them sticking around [10:53] i usually have 3, with a bunch of tabs. [10:54] <_StefanS_> yes 3 is usually enough [10:54] fdoving: I use tabs ofcourse [10:54] <_StefanS_> ah cant wait to get my two new 200gb sata disks :D [10:54] I have, hmm, 6 Konsole open atm [10:55] Tm_T: do you count tabs? [10:56] <_StefanS_> fdoving: do you need to include them in xorg.conf? [10:56] <_StefanS_> fdoving: the fonts i mean [10:57] _StefanS_: not at all, put them in ~/.fonts/ and run 'fc-cache -f' [10:57] <_StefanS_> ok [10:57] <_StefanS_> forgot about that fc-cache thingy ;) [10:57] spoiled by GUIs :) [10:57] <_StefanS_> probably :D [10:57] <_StefanS_> you get lazy after a while hehe [10:58] yeah, i've noticed that too. [10:58] use for loops for everything. [10:58] fdoving: every tab is terminal session [10:59] <_StefanS_> wow they're actually pretty nice [11:00] <_StefanS_> fdoving: thanks for the tip, I think they're a good replacement actually [11:00] <_StefanS_> brb [11:00] tm_t: then i have 8. :) === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:02] <_StefanS_> back.. [11:02] <_StefanS_> the monospace is cool too I think [11:04] _StefanS_: yes, i use that too. [11:33] any macbook users? === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:10] xerosis: oh yes [12:10] xerosis: here is one [12:10] mhb: works nice with kubuntu? [12:11] does anyone know how why some of my partitions do not have entries in /dev/disk/by-uuid/ ? [12:11] xerosis: works rather nicely [12:12] xerosis: although there are several glitches I found [12:12] xerosis: minor ones, though [12:12] mhb: excellent, just bought one fairly spontaneously, figured i should check it worked alright [12:12] mhb: what are they? [12:13] xerosis: the wireless card is behaving weirdly sometimes (reconnecting once per 10 minutes), the brightness keys dont work, when you use the "mute" key it wont mute... [12:14] mhb: i can live with those [12:14] mhb: did you keep a mac os partition?