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soulriderinstall libxine-extracodecs12:13
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sstchurIs there anything besides knetworkmanager that can be used to aid in connecting to wpa secured wireless networks?  All the other GUIs I try, only have options for WEP12:15
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sercik!envy12:19
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!12:19
tuxdHi.  New to Linux.  Running Fiesty Kubuntu.  Amarok has libraries to play MP3's, plays them from folder on home/user/music, but "Build A Collection" is not working. It recognises iPOD & plays songs from it, but won't move to collection.  Read steps in Amarok "Quick Start Guide", & after going to Collection Browser, clicking on configure, selecting folders, and clicking "OK", nothing happens.  Please help.  Thanks12:19
tuxd[14:58]  <tuxd> Also, Amaraok is 1.4.5, KDE 3.5.612:19
markohttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-es/attachments/20051202/4abe3cb1/ubuntu_5.11.jpg12:19
marko:P12:19
tuxdNot sure what engine is, but came standard with Fiesty Kubuntu12:20
Pensacolait would be great if the sysinfo:/ thing would be included in the next kubuntu release12:21
Pensacolahttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/KIO+Slave+sysinfo%3A%2B+for+PCLinuxOS+2007?content=59472&PHPSESSID=bcb7bd0596986519bb55bd650c5cc61112:21
Kr4t05Is there a quick and easy way to refresh my RAM without rebooting?12:23
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RawSewageyou can restart X12:24
RawSewagealso, I suggest changing the default Sessions setting12:24
RawSewageto Start with Empty Session12:25
RawSewageI hate the default.  The default picks up garbage processes over time, and your system gets all slow12:25
RawSewagebecause it keeps loading everything from the past12:25
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Kr4t05RawSewage: I don't like starting with an empty session though. Having Konversation, Beryl and Amarok start up for me is nice.12:25
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RawSewageKr4t05, just add those to your AutoStart folder12:25
Kr4t05Oh, yeah...12:26
RawSewagean easy way to do that is go to the folder, then drag the app from your Start menu into it and copy12:26
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andresalguien me puede explicar como hago para configurar un firewall en kubuntu feisty fawn??12:28
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Kr4t05!es | andres12:29
ubotuandres: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:30
hunfacan someone help me please?12:30
alexandreandres_ you should speak in English.. xD12:30
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hunfai need more sources for new programs12:30
hunfahow do i add new ones?12:30
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sercikkubuntu search for trevino sources.list12:31
alexandrehunfa: you only need to edit.. the sources.list if you talking abou it...12:31
TailsfanWhat is a good multimedia program that can recognize iPod videos?12:31
sercikand you'll find many sources to add12:31
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alexandreTailfsfan mplayer,vlc, kaffeine... I think all theese thres does...12:32
hunfahow?12:32
Kr4t05hunfa: Becareful about adding third-party repositories.12:32
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TailsfanI meant straight from teh iPod12:32
TailsfanThey're in my iPod from iTunes on Windows12:32
hunfaok12:32
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hunfawhere can i find sources.list?12:33
TailsfanAny Ideas?12:33
darkriftanyone know of a good ocr program?12:33
Kr4t05!EasySource | hunfa12:33
ubotuhunfa: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:33
darkrifti have bmp's of an ebook i made and i need run ocr on it12:33
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hunfai opened the site12:37
hunfaand chose my kubuntu version12:37
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hunfathen i pressed the "create sources.list"12:38
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hunfanow what should i do?12:38
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SeanTaterMy cursor vaporized and I can't seem to get it back. What should I try?12:39
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darkriftnobody? :(12:41
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TailsfanHey also, Why does Amarok freeze for whenever it asks for MP3 Support12:43
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jarnI created an executable that runs another command, only if I try to run the executable from the Run Command dialog it opens up a shell and runs it in there so I can only run it from the command line. Is there a way to make it so it can be run through Run Command?12:48
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shadowhywindwhat is the correct line i should add to my fstab to mount a vfat partition with read/write for all users?12:51
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tuxdHi. I'm new to Linux. I'm running Feisty Kubuntu, and have current updates for all the programs I am running. I installed everything to get it to play mp3's correctly, and my iPOD is detected & can play songs in Amarock. The problem I am having is in Building A Collection. I know it sounds retarded. Intially I tried to move mp3's from the iPOD (by highlighting one artist, right-clicking, and selecting "Copy files to collection")12:54
tuxdand it gave a message saying "You need to configure at least one folder for your collection for organizing your files". I've been reading the "Quick Start Guide" and it says go to Collection Browser (check), then Click the Configure Folders Button located in toolbar (check; the one that looks like a Hammer and Wrench criss-crossing and says "Configure Folders" if you hover your mouse over it), then select which folders you would12:54
tuxdlike to have your collection made from (check; I created a folder under my user, i.e. home/user/music and have selected this.) Then it says you can check some boxes and then click "OK". (check). Nothing happens after I click "OK". It says there should be an initial scan and it doesn't appear to do one. There are no files showing in the collection browser window. There are some mp3's in the home/user/music folder I loaded manually12:54
tuxdvia a usb pen drive to the folder so it would have something to grab, but there is nothing for a collection in Amarock. It seems like the Build A Collection feature is just plain not working. Help please. Thanks.12:54
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Tailsfan!mp412:55
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:55
PhinnForttuxd was very patient12:56
Chris_yeah12:56
Chris_I was just about to answer him... after reading all of his messages..12:56
PhinnFortprobably found out that it worked after he had set up a folder;)12:56
PhinnFort*all of his _long_ messages12:56
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Chris_yeah, or he discovered drag&drop to add music files to the ipod12:57
PhinnFort;)12:57
PhinnFortdnd ftw12:57
Chris_is anyone here who can help me with kdialog?12:57
PhinnFortChris_: maybe?12:57
PhinnFortelaborate, and I might be able to help you12:58
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Chris_I'm wondering if it's possible to have clickable links in passive popups12:58
PhinnFortshadowhywind: look at "man:fstab" or "man:mount" in konqueror12:59
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PhinnFortChris_: tried with html messages?12:59
PhinnFortChris_: kdialog --error '<a href=#>lol</a>' seems to work01:00
Chris_yes, if I include html links, then they are parsed and shown as links, but nothing happens when you click on them01:00
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PhinnForthum01:00
PhinnFortChris_: maybe ask the devs in #kde01:00
Chris_okay, thanks!01:01
PhinnFortnp01:01
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TailsfanHow do I add MP4 Support>01:02
PhinnFort!mp401:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:03
PhinnFort?01:03
PhinnFortTailsfan: I think I have it01:03
PhinnFort!info xine-extracodecs01:03
ubotuPackage xine-extracodecs does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas01:03
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PhinnFort!info libxine-extracodecs01:03
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ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB01:03
PhinnFortTailsfan: do you have that installed?01:03
TailsfanNot Yet, II need XMMS fo rthat right?01:04
PhinnFortTailsfan: uhm, no?01:04
TailsfanBecause I was trying to use AmarroK to play MP4s and MP3s01:04
PhinnFortTailsfan: that package add lots of codecs to xine, which is used by kaffeine, amarok, etc.01:04
Ace2016hi all01:05
Ace2016what html editor do you use in linux???01:05
PhinnFortTailsfan: XINE is a multimedia framework, and Amarok includes a music playing engine that uses XINE to play music files01:05
PhinnFortAce2016: Kate01:05
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PhinnFortAce2016: but I've heard much good about Quanta Plus too01:05
PhinnFort!info quanta | Ace201601:06
ubotuace2016: quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2382 kB, installed size 5728 kB01:06
Ace2016I'm thinking more about a gui based editor01:06
PhinnFortAce2016: Kate is GUI01:06
PhinnFortSo is Quanta Plus, I might add01:07
PhinnFortif you want WYSIWYG, use OpenOffice Writer or KWord01:07
PhinnFortor NVU01:07
Ace2016never knew you could use oo to make a website01:07
PhinnFortAce2016: it can export to HTML, afaik01:07
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hitmanWillyAce2016, just about any text editor can be used to make a website :P01:08
PhinnFortanyways, if you're serious about web design, you should learn HTML01:08
PhinnFortit's very easy01:08
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Ace2016programming is higher on the list of things to learn at the mo01:09
PhinnForthtml isn't programming imho01:10
hitmanWillyditto01:10
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PhinnFort:P01:10
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Ace2016i mean like qt401:10
adz21chtml isn't programming, its data01:10
hitmanWillyim not even sure if it qualifies as a scripting lang...01:10
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Arwengod fscking damn it I fscking hate ATI...01:11
PhinnFortArwen: AMEN!01:11
Ace2016lol01:11
OhMyAudiHi all.  I have my panel arranged at the bottom of my screen like OSX.  I'm looking for some sort of separator to go inbetween my trash can and the rest of my icons.  Any advice?01:11
hitmanWillylol01:11
PhinnFortwell, if you want an easy and pretty webpage, use a CMS01:11
Linux_GaloreArwen: AMD have promised to make ATi drivers FOSS later this year01:12
ArwenOhMyAudi, try the "separator" applet01:12
PhinnFortOhMyAudi: can't you just move them aroun01:12
PhinnFortd01:12
Ace2016OhMyAudi: create an icon and for the icon's image use a separator like image01:12
ArwenLinux_Galore, yeah, and I call BS01:12
Arwenbesides, being F/OSS won't fix the fact that they suck01:12
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PhinnFortLinux_Galore: well, it wouldn't be first time someone promised better ATI drivers01:12
OhMyAudiArwen: Where is the separator applet?01:12
ArwenOhMyAudi, no idea? :-)01:12
OhMyAudiwow01:12
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OhMyAudiOkay.01:12
PhinnFortArwen: it might allow those sitting on source code supporting next gen ati cards release it01:12
Linux_GaloreArwen: we can but wait and see, Im sticking with intel for now, Im waiting for some cheap laptops with i965 chipsets01:12
PhinnFortati is currently blocking it01:13
AutoMatriXHello01:13
OhMyAudiAce2016:  Thanks, I had a similar idea, but was wondering if there were any official solutions.01:13
ArwenLinux_Galore, X3500 GMA is where it's at :-)01:13
OhMyAudiThanks all01:13
PhinnFortOhMyAudi: why do you need a separator?01:13
PhinnFortdarn01:13
PhinnFortkicker allows you to move stuff freely around01:13
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soulrider!ati01:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:14
PhinnFort!fsckati01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fsckati - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
hitmanWillyi dont think there is a seperator applet in kicker...01:14
Linux_GaloreArwen: yeah, I can see Intel doing some damage to both AMD(ATi) and Nvidia market if they make a half way decent FOSS video chipset01:14
PhinnForthitmanWilly: because you don't need one...01:14
ArwenLinux_Galore, hell no. Intel doesn't even compete with NVIDIA and ATI01:14
Ace2016PhinnFort: can't control where the taslbar ends, it always goes as far as whatever the next thing is01:14
PhinnFortArwen:01:14
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PhinnFortArwen: well, I for one will go with integrated intel graphics on my next laptop01:14
Linux_GaloreArwen: actually Intel outsells both added together right now01:15
ArwenLinux_Galore, but Intel doesn't *compete* with them01:15
PhinnFortAce2016: is that bad...?01:15
ArwenIntel targets the low end market where ATI and NVIDIA sell *competent* video cards.01:15
PhinnFortArwen: they might as well, their drivers are excellent;)01:15
Ace2016PhinnFort: yes its annoying01:15
PhinnFortI don't need anything more than what the intel cards provides, but then again I'm not a hardcore gamer01:15
Linux_GaloreArwen: beginning with the i965 it will, built in shader support and multi channel01:15
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PhinnFortI would at least be able to play Glest with Intel01:16
=== hitmanWilly will stick with nvidia for the time being...
PhinnFort(compared to now, where everything is gray)01:16
Arwen"hardcore gamer" - I hate that phrase. I've not yet seen any *real* game that will play without at least a midrange video card01:16
PhinnFortArwen: PPRacer?01:16
ArwenLinux_Galore, yeah, but it'll be handicapped by the shared memory requirement..01:16
ArwenPhinnFort, *real*01:16
ArwenI could play that with software rendering01:16
PhinnFortArwen: :D01:17
PhinnFortArwen: well, then I'm not a "real" gamer01:17
PhinnFort:P01:17
=== PhinnFort was quite good at CS, though
Arwenbah, all I play is Nexuiz.... and that doesn't run too well on Intel.01:17
SlimeyPetethere are lots of real gam which run without a decent card. Anything released before this year, for a start ;)01:17
Arwenand Nexuiz is far from state-of-art01:17
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hitmanWillyArwen is talking about quake, unreal, etc, i do believe01:17
Arwen^^01:17
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PhinnFortwell, I have Nexuiz installed01:18
Linux_GaloreArwen: as long as beryl works Im happy, I prefere consoles for games as they are released earlier than the PC now01:18
ArwenUnreal doesn't actually take too much power, has a software engine even01:18
PhinnFortmesa?01:18
ArwenLinux_Galore, you just can't play an FPS on a console..01:18
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ArwenPhinnFort, no, internal software renderer01:18
PhinnFortagreed01:18
PhinnFortah, ok01:18
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hitmanWillybut UT04 on a 7900 nvidia card running 64 bit is just AWESOME!!!!01:18
SlimeyPeteyou can generally get mie & keyboards for consoles these days.01:18
MinatakuHalo fans seem to be pretty happy with console FPSs01:18
SlimeyPeteand the wiimote is OK for FPS01:18
Linux_GaloreArwen: can on the PS3 it supports vector, most PC's cant render vector01:19
ArwenMinataku, because they've never played anything else...01:19
soulrider!ati > gon01:19
ArwenLinux_Galore, *mouse and keyboard*01:19
MinatakuBut then I'm not much for FPSs01:19
mindslantso I sudo got beryl in the terminal.  then I typed beryl...then my screen went into a solid color.  Any suggestions on how to get beryl working now that I"ve restarted?01:19
Linux_GaloreArwen: you can use a mouse an keypad with both the XBOX and PS3 now01:19
Arwenanyway, we're digressing01:19
MinatakuI'm a racing gamer first and foremost01:19
OhMyAudiHey all I'm debating switching back to windows01:19
MinatakuTPSs next, maybe01:20
OhMyAudiI think I need windows therapy01:20
PhinnFortOhMyAudi: oh so exciting01:20
hitmanWilly!windows | OhMyAudi01:20
ubotuOhMyAudi: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents01:20
ArwenLinux_Galore, yeah..... or you could just play FPS games on a PC...01:20
OhMyAudilol01:20
zipperSlimeyPete: while yes, you can get mouse+keyboard, they dont work as well as they do on a PC. The pitch is locked, so you cant do "flick" movements.01:20
mindslantohmyaudi, linus himself in an hour long speech at google said he used what worked best.  best is up to you01:20
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Linux_GaloreArwen: Im sending email on my PS3 heh01:20
Arwenbah01:21
OhMyAudiOkay okay, I'm feeling more like linux again.  Thanks all01:21
PhinnFortFallout 2 plays just as well on Intel as on my ATi01:21
MinatakuPS3... the total failure of the bunch01:21
PhinnFortXD01:21
=== Arwen knows about PS3 linux............ still, FAIL.
MinatakuTalk about the dumbest choice you could make01:21
ArwenPhinnFort, Fallout? lol01:21
PhinnFortArwen: <3 fallout <301:21
zippersigh, the fanboyism hit this channel too? =(01:21
PhinnFortand Fallout 3 is coming soon01:21
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Arwenspeaking of old games, I need to scrounge a copy of starcraft..01:21
PhinnFortzipper: since when didn't it contaminate every channel?01:21
OhMyAudiOh i do have a question actually.  if I've tried to install something via a script and the install was unsuccessful, how can I remove the junk (delete what was put into my system prior to install failure)?01:22
Linux_GaloreI have xfce running on the PS3, it allot faster than I expected01:22
mindslantcan anyone help me with beryl?01:22
PhinnFort!beryl | mindslant01:22
ubotumindslant: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:22
ArwenOhMyAudi, by examining the script and trying to guess what it did?01:22
zipperPS3 is expensive, big, ugly and lacks a lot of things. However, it is THE most powerful thing out there + it can run linux. Thats gotta count for something01:22
PhinnFortOhMyAudi: make uninstall, maybe01:22
ArwenOhMyAudi, basically, you're fux0r3d01:22
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Minatakuzipper: You'd think that, but it doesn't.01:22
OhMyAudiArwen, what is with you and the answering questions with questions01:22
MinatakuIt's a game console01:22
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Arwenzipper, actually, it's outperformed by modern PCs.01:22
OhMyAudiArwen, are you really alex trabeck?01:22
MinatakuIt shouldn't need to run Linux, really.01:22
Linux_GalorePS3 as a Linux render farm is amazing though01:22
PhinnFortyou tell me01:23
zipperArwen: outperformed, yes. But you still get better FPS on the PS3, due to all the optimazing which you cannot do on a pc.01:23
MinatakuAnd the fact that it was designed purely to sell Blu-Ray and not to do ANYTHING ELSE, it's a total piece of crap01:23
PhinnFortbetter mazes?01:23
Arwenzipper, LIES. You could just as easily write optimized code for a PC...01:23
Linux_Galoreadd 3 x PS3 + Linux cluster and you have real time vector rendering01:23
Arwenanyway, WE'RE DIGRESSING01:23
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PhinnFortLinux_Galore: we have real time vector rendering in Qt 401:23
PhinnForton PC's, I might add;)01:24
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zipperArwen: if you knew the exact specifications of the PC, yes, you could. However, you never know such details. PC users have a wide range of different setups.01:24
PhinnFort!offtopic | PhinnFort01:24
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: not in full 3D on a PC, it wont have the grunt01:24
Arwenzipper, bah01:24
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: I think you're mixing concepts, or I don't grasp them;)01:24
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: why wouldn't a pc be able to display vectors in 3 dimensions (in fullscreen)?01:25
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SlimeyPetesurely polygons are essentially vectors?01:25
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: most people think as vector rendering on a single plane, Im talking pure 3D with a few thousand planes in real time01:25
PhinnForteggzactly01:25
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zipperArwen: "bah" or not, its still one of the consoles' greatest features. Not being able to chose hardware that is.01:26
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ArwenLinux_Galore, that's called a Vector Processing Unit. We have those in PCs too...01:26
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: hum, most games have several hundreds/thousand planes, already01:26
njt88is it possible to watch .wmv movies in kaffeine without glitches? I'm a feisty newbie. Cheers in advance!01:26
Arwenzipper, lockin is never a feature...01:26
PhinnFortnjt88: depends on your cpu, i guess01:26
PhinnFortnjt88: what video card do you have?01:26
Arwennjt88, um, yes?01:26
Arwenlol01:26
intelikeyi'm getting an odd script error   can anyone tell me what it's saying  """ script.sh: 14: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting "}")01:26
Arwenintelikey, your script is malformed, pastebin it01:27
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: yeah but they dont render the whole lot in vector only set parts01:27
_4strO!codecs | njt8801:27
zipperArwen: not locked, just pre-defined. And no, i agree, "feature" was not the right word for it - one of their greatest strenghts then.01:27
ubotunjt88: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:27
PhinnFortintelikey: you forgot to close some brackets?01:27
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: erh... they only render what's on screen01:27
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PhinnFortanything else would be useless01:27
Arwennjt88, you have any problems specifically?01:27
intelikeyPhinnFort mmm maybe.   but it works as #!/bin/bash  but not as #!/bin/dash01:27
PhinnFortblargh... /me no like dash01:28
intelikeyso it's some bashism that i missed.01:28
PhinnFortmaybe bash is more forgiving?01:28
njt88Arwen: just keeps glitching every 10ish seconds and screen goes green often01:28
PhinnFortpaste it?01:28
PhinnFortnjt88: what kind of gfx card do you have?01:28
Arwennjt88, huh, that sounds like a decoding problem - are you using w32codecs?01:28
MinatakuYou're completely ignoring the fact that the PS3 was designed solely to sell Sony's latest failure format Blu-Ray, itself an overpriced load of bullcrap designed purely to be DRM'd up the wazoo01:28
ArwenPhinnFort, what's his graphics card have to do with this?01:28
PhinnFortArwen: tried playing video with VESA?01:29
Linux_GaloreIve learnt one thing in the last few days, kmail is far from enterprise ready until the developers stop thinking html is evil01:29
ArwenPhinnFort, lol01:29
sudomanjoin #cedega01:29
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: hum, iloveyou?01:29
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PhinnFortsudoman: why?01:29
ArwenPhinnFort, can't be worse than using VGA fbdev..01:29
PhinnFort;P01:29
sudomanjeje :-P01:29
PhinnFortsadoman01:29
njt88phinnfort: it's a Nvidia nForce4 6600gt01:29
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MinatakuGreen, eh?01:29
PhinnFortnjt88: have you installed the nvidia drivers?01:30
Linux_Galorewell I want to recommend kmail as a solution to enterprise level users but I cant01:30
Minatakunjt88: Sounds like decryption errors01:30
ArwenPhinnFort, the nv driver supports 2d accel...01:30
Arwenso that's not the problem01:30
Arwennjt88, oh yeah, is the WMV DRM'ed?01:30
gon!ati01:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:30
PhinnFortArwen: motion compensation etc, too?01:30
ArwenPhinnFort, yes01:30
Linux_Galorekontact is a great rig ruined by kmail01:30
SlimeyPetegeforce cards do xv in software, anyway01:30
PhinnFortLinuxh01:30
MinatakuIt's a DVD, Arwen01:30
njt88phinnfort: I believe so. My mate did it for me01:30
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: how so?01:30
PhinnFortnjt88: ah, ok01:30
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MinatakuBut it still sounds like the same thing01:30
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ArwenMinataku, DVDs aren't encoded with WMV..01:30
MinatakuArwen: They're still encrypted01:31
PhinnFortDVDCSS01:31
PhinnFort!dvd01:31
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:31
MinatakuIt's possible his system isn't keeping up01:31
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: kmail doesnt support many of the most basic html option in the compose mode and the spam filter is too complex01:31
ArwenPhinnFort, ....try actually reading what we're saying01:31
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: wtf uses html in enterprise settings?01:31
ArwenMinataku, that doesn't explain the green01:31
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MinatakuAnd every 10 seconds or so runs out of decrypted content and falls back01:31
MinatakuJust a guess01:31
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: everyone I deal with at a company level right now01:31
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: and the spam is supposed to be filtered out with the companies mail servers01:32
Arwendamn, fglrx doesn't support XvMC... oh well01:32
PhinnFort*@01:32
MinatakuIt could also be an xv issue, too, as mentioned01:32
njt88was running windows until about a month ago and the same .wmv files played well. I am suspecting it's a codec problem01:32
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Minatakunjt88: Oh, they ARE WMVs, sorry01:32
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: exactly what do you miss in the html editing?01:32
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: I agree but not everyone will be using the PC at work some use it at home and have their own email service provider01:32
Minatakunjt88: They're probably encrypted01:32
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37316   slow response01:32
Arwennjt88, ok, so, like I said, did you install the w32codecs package?01:32
MinatakuDRMv1 or DRMv201:32
Arwenand yeah, are they DRMed?01:32
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: well, then it's not in an enterprise setting, is it?01:32
SloikI have a mobility radeon... the fglrx drivers don't seem to be working with it... what's the problem?01:33
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: for starters "no text hyperlinking"01:33
intelikeyPhinnFort  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3731601:33
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: also, have you tried to use the wizard?01:33
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Arwen!notworking | Sloik01:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about notworking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:33
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MinatakuIn which case you need some piece of software and, unfortunately, a working Windows PC01:33
njt88Arwen: no, I don't think they're install. Where can I get'em?01:33
Arwen!doesn't work | Sloik01:33
ubotuSloik: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.01:33
Minataku:P01:33
Arwen!medibuntu | njt8801:33
ubotunjt88: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/01:33
mindslanthowdy.  I got an ati radeon xpress 200m graphics card, how do I install teh driver for it01:33
Arwenfollow those instructions and then do "apt-get install w32codecs"01:33
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: yes, it doesnt work very well and needs some manual setting up to work 100%01:33
Linux_Galore@ spam filter01:33
SloikWell when I installed the fglrx drivers, X server refused to start.01:33
MinatakuWhat you should do with encrypted WMVs is delete them angrily and tell whoever/whereever you got them from to go suck on a sewer pipe01:34
ArwenSloik, did it print any errors?01:34
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intelikeyArwen what bashism did i miss in this  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37316  ?01:34
PhinnFortintelikey: the while thingy in brackets?01:34
MinatakuAnd not a rainwater sewer01:34
SloikNot that I could see... it really just showed the kubuntu logo.01:34
PhinnFortintelikey: also try in #bash01:34
MinatakuA sanitary sewer01:34
MinatakuThe kind that carries poop01:34
njt88Arwwen: ubotu: Phinnfort: thanks I'll try installing that package and see how I get on!01:34
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PhinnFortnjt88: yw01:34
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: it worked perfectly here after running the wizard01:34
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: good example in Thunderbird there is a nice setup for Insert Link. Insert Image etc nothing like that in Kmail01:34
intelikeyPhinnFort dash can't do { commands ; } ?01:35
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: drag and drop?01:35
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: I still got allot fo spam on an open server01:35
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PhinnFortintelikey: dunno, I don't use dash;)01:35
Minatakuintelikey: If it works with bash just run it with bash01:35
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MinatakuThat's the point of the #! line01:36
ArwenGOD FUCKING DAMN IT01:36
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: the Insert Image dialog allows you to edit some of the image preferences for the image file selected01:36
Arwenfglrx killed my system again..01:36
PriceChild!ohmy | Arwen01:36
intelikeyMinataku i'm migrating away from bash thank you.01:36
ubotuArwen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:36
MinatakuSo the script runs with the proper shell no matter which shell it's launched from01:36
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: drag and drop doesnt cut it01:36
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ArwenPriceChild, yeah yeah...01:36
Minatakuintelikey: That's a stupid thing to do01:36
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: well, if you get spam into the internal network, you've kind of lost01:36
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MinatakuExplain why01:36
Arwenso, who's bash script am I looking at?01:36
intelikeyMinataku in your openion i'm sure.01:36
MinatakuBecause I can't imagine why the hell anyone would want to do that01:36
MinatakuArwen: It's a dash script. He doesn't want to use bash anymore.01:37
MinatakuFor some bizarro reason01:37
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MinatakuThough Bizarro would explain it01:37
intelikeybecause bash has become bloated and is no longer full posix compliant01:37
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: right now I get 1 email per 2,000 odd spam from a filtered account so Im not that fussy, Im just saying the kmail setup is very convoluted compared to thunderbirds01:37
Minatakuintelikey: Try it with /bin/sh01:37
ArwenMinataku, /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/dash01:38
MinatakuWhat!?01:38
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intelikeyMinataku yes01:38
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MinatakuDumbass distro01:38
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: I haven't tried Thunderbird, but all I know is that i've never met someone who has complained about the lack of HTML editing features in an enterprise setting;)01:38
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MinatakuIt's supposed to be a symlink to /bin/bash which runs it in old-style sh compat mode01:38
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PhinnFortMinataku: /bin/sh is supposed to link to a POSIX compliant shell, which DASH is01:38
intelikeyexactly01:39
Minatakubash in compat mode is also POSIX compliant01:39
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PhinnFortMinataku: but it's slow01:39
Arwensay, in what way is BASH not POSIX-compliant?01:39
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: but there's replacements for KMail too, but I dunno how integrated it is01:39
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: were I work we do allot of marketing and support via email, we embed the external documentation within the text rather than spam the users inbox with attachments01:39
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MinatakuI'm gonna go play videogames01:39
intelikeybash in compat mode also accepts all that "bashism" that is breaking scripts.01:39
PhinnFort:D01:39
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hikaricorelol01:39
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: also many companies dont allow attachments01:40
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Arwenhah01:40
pagan0neanyonw know a good program to convert a .vod bile into a standard mpeg or avi file under kununtu?01:40
pagan0ne.vob file, sorry01:40
Arwenpagan0ne, no, there are no programs to convert bile01:40
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Arwen:-P01:40
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: well, all images in mails, even the html document itself, is encoded attachments01:40
Minatakupagan0ne: That's a DVD "Video OBject"01:40
PhinnFortmore or less01:40
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: kmail method of having a 40 character link in the email is dumb01:40
MinatakuYou'll want to rip the DVD instead01:40
pagan0nelol, give me a break, i just bought a new keyboard...01:40
Arwenpagan0ne, also, a "standard" *AVI*? Um......01:40
MinatakuSince the VOB isn't gonna be what you want01:40
PhinnForttry K3B01:41
Minataku!dvd01:41
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:41
hikaricoreThough you can directly play vob in most media players01:41
pagan0neMinataku: i dont have the dvd, its just a couple of vob files01:41
intelikeyi'd really like to find some good DASH documentation   it's man page is a unix bash leftover01:41
hikaricorepirate!01:41
Minatakupagan0ne: Then you're probably screwed01:41
Arwenpagan0ne, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27363501:41
hikaricorerofl01:41
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: I dont send images because all that is already on our servers that the customer can hyperlink to if they wish01:41
Arwenyou'll end up with a Matroska instead of an AVI, but it'll still be better than having a cruddy VOB lying around01:41
pagan0nehikaricore: well its a doctor who season 1 box set, its not avalable for purchase here in the states, and i need my who fix01:42
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PhinnFortLinux_Galore: well, try Mailody;)01:42
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: and file a bug at bugs.kde.org01:42
Arwenpagan0ne, alternatively, you could just play the vob directly01:42
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: or ask in #kde, if you're lucky one of the KMail devs are online and now afk01:42
Minatakupagan0ne: You're likely to be missing part of it01:42
MinatakuLike, all the audio01:42
pagan0neyes, but vob files are huge01:42
MinatakuI don't believe VOBs carry audio01:42
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Linux_GalorePhinnFort: the hyperlink bug has been there for ages, the kmail people hate html its even in the manual01:42
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intelikeyPhinnFort you don't know off hand of any dash docs do you ?01:42
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ArwenMinataku, they do01:43
pagan0neMinataku: if i play the file directly, it has audio etc, it is basicaly a direct rip off the dvd, only not in iso format01:43
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: well, I don't say I disagree with their opinion on it01:43
Arwenpagan0ne, did you even read my link?01:43
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MinatakuFair enough01:43
MinatakuI've been wrong before ;301:43
pagan0neArwen: im getting to it, its active in here01:43
hikaricoreimagine that01:43
hikaricoreI was wrong once too01:43
hikaricorea long time ago01:43
hikaricoreheh01:43
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: yes but for me it just means you are trying to dictate feature sets based on faulty opinion, you may as well just become Microsoft01:43
Arwenhikaricore, don't use enter as punctuation :-)01:44
Minatakus/once/many\ times/01:44
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: :D01:44
Minatakus/a\ long\ time\ ago/most\ of\ the\ time/01:44
PhinnFortintelikey: no, sorry01:44
Minatakuj/k01:44
MinatakuXD01:44
hikaricore:P01:44
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Linux_GalorePhinnFort: basically the #kde guys say put a 40 character link in the email, to me that just very messy01:45
PhinnForttell them that, then01:45
MinatakuBTW, sorry everyone for getting a bit angry earlier, didn't mean to be fighting anyone X301:45
pagan0neArwen: i think your link is what i needed, thanks01:45
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: I did they called me a troll01:45
PhinnFortMinataku: what did you do to cool yourself down;)01:45
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PhinnFortLinux_Galore: hum, how did you say it?01:45
MinatakuPhinnFort: Nothing01:45
PhinnFort:P01:45
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: they are officially morons now in my books01:45
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: well, did you try mailody?01:46
MinatakuI cool down after a bit of time01:46
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PhinnFortLinux_Galore: it only supports imap, though01:46
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Linux_GalorePhinnFort: we use pop and imap01:46
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njt88Arwen: sorry to bothrer you. Tried d.loading medibuntu and running apt-get install w32 codecs but response was E: couldn't find pakage w32. any ideas?01:46
MinatakuWhat about good 'ol sendmail?01:46
Arwennjt88, 1 word01:47
PhinnFortnjt88: no space01:47
Arwen"w32codecs"01:47
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Linux_Galoreour email server is exim on a freebsd machine01:47
intelikeysendmail is good    fetchmail is...   well it works.01:47
njt88Arwen: ok thanks i'll try that01:47
PhinnFortpine01:47
MinatakuPine and Pico <301:47
Linux_Galoremutt01:47
hikaricorepico ftw01:48
MinatakuAnd it's F/OSS reimplementation, nano01:48
intelikeyheh  pico   the symlink to nano01:48
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MinatakuThe best f*cking editor ever01:48
PhinnFortNANO NANO NANO01:48
Linux_Galoremakes emacs look almost sane (@ mutt)01:48
PhinnFort<3 Nano <301:48
Linux_Galorepffft vim01:48
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hikaricorepico sounds more spanish, making it hawter than nano01:48
pagan0neme love NANO01:48
MinatakuRMS is an alien with 37 fingers... on each hand01:48
njt88Arewn: already the newset version. MUst be something else. NEvermind I'll ask my mate and see what he thinks. Thanks for your help, dude ^_^01:48
intelikey!editor_war01:48
hikaricore^_^01:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about editor_war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:48
MinatakuThat's the only way you can use emacs01:48
PhinnFortI used to use VIM, for about thirthy seconds, until someone told me about nano01:48
DragnslcrNano is damn nice01:48
Linux_GaloreIve used vim for years so Im biased01:48
Kr4t05Gee, I kinda wish Kiba-Dock wouldn't crash every two minutes... >>01:48
pagan0nerofl @ Minataku01:48
PhinnFort!nano01:48
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code01:48
PhinnFort<3 KAAAAAAAAAATE!01:48
Ace2016yea nano is easy01:49
Minatakunano actually edits01:49
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DragnslcrKeyboard controls should never be 8 keystrokes (vim)01:49
PhinnFortedline01:49
pagan0nenano is friendly, easy, useful, and doesnt get in the way01:49
DragnslcrAnd emacs isn't a text editor, it's an entire operating system01:49
PhinnFortamen01:49
PhinnFortemacs is a religion01:49
MinatakuWithout doing any dumbass fancy sh*t or requiring the memorization of ##### commands01:49
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pagan0neDragnslcr: emacs is a religon....01:49
Arwenhey hey... we're off topic again01:49
intelikeyi'm sure i dont know all there is to know about vim/emacs  but i haven't found anything that they could do that mc -e  can't01:49
PhinnForteverything right there on the screen01:49
Linux_GaloreI know a few people who live on emacs01:49
PhinnFort!ontopic01:49
ubotu#kubuntu is the Kubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!01:49
DragnslcrI wonder if I still have that image...01:50
hikaricoreemacs = scientology01:50
pagan0nerofl01:50
hikaricorepwned!01:50
intelikeyas an editor only  ^01:50
hikaricorelol01:50
MinatakuHaha01:50
PhinnFortemacs is worse than scientology01:50
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Kr4t05Does anyone know where I can find a stable package for kiba-dock for Feisty?01:50
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PriceChildThe topic for this channel is Kubuntu support. Back on topic please everyone :)01:50
=== Arwen just wants a sensible editor that doesn't require cryptic commands just to add text..
Linux_GaloreI saw one emacs guy who has written a lisp client so he can chat and message on Yahoo01:50
PhinnFortrotfl01:50
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PhinnFortKr4t05: compile it yourself01:50
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MinatakuScrew the topic :P01:51
hikaricore O.o01:51
Linux_Galoreanyway I digress01:51
PhinnFortweee, updates from the oxygen world01:51
Arwen^^ - understatement of the year01:51
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Kr4t05PhinnFort: I tried that... I keeps crashing... I'm no great shakes at compilation.01:51
MinatakuAnyway, brb01:51
PhinnFortthank you pricechild01:51
Linux_GaloreIm paying with kiba with beryl, talk about eye candy (or is that kandy) overload01:51
Linux_Galoreplaying*01:52
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=== Arwen never got kiba-dock to work..
=== hikaricore ditto
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DragnslcrSearch Google Images for "text editor learning curves" and take a look at the first one01:52
hikaricoreIt always either didn't work at all, or looked shamefully ugly01:52
DragnslcrAbsolutely hilarious01:52
Linux_GaloreIm on kde 4 alpha1, seems to work for me but needs a fairly good machine01:52
PhinnFortrotfl01:53
hikaricoreDon't know why my intel celeron can't handle it  *sarcasme*01:53
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: do you have the oxygen style and windeco?01:53
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: or did you just get the packages?01:53
mardihi all, my kubuntu feisty has suddenly stopped asking for root password when opening 'kdesu konqueror' and when clicking 'admin mode' in system settings, installing progarms etc. any ideas why?01:53
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: yes, Im trying to decide if I like it or now01:53
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Linux_GalorePhinnFort: no I compiled it on Gentoo01:54
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: is resizing flickering?01:54
PriceChildmardi, it has a small time which it will remember the password for. About 5 minutes afaik01:54
pagan0nemardi: it likes you :)01:54
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: "we had some serious problems with the new code of the windeco; Thomas is a great hacker about graphics, one of the best I know, but hes still an human, and needs some time to debug the problems that may eventually come up. Especially, theres a nasty bug that right now makes the GUI flashing a bit when resizing"01:54
Linux_GalorePhilip5: a bit but then again allot of stuff is flickering and not rendering and leaving fragments01:54
PhinnFortfrom Riccardo Iaconelli01:54
MinatakuPriceChild: wtf?01:54
MinatakuDon't make ubotu tell me stupid things01:54
Minatakulol01:54
hikaricoreheh01:55
PriceChildMinataku, watch your language please :)01:55
PhinnFortMinataku: he did that to me too, should we start a club of some sorts?01:55
mardiPriceChild, pagan0ne: all i've done so far is login, it hasn't asked for a password since :p01:55
Linux_GalorePhilip5: think kicker is borked though, keeps crashing01:55
PriceChildmardi, odd... I'm not sure sorry if you haven't changed anything.01:55
MinatakuPriceChild: You gave me "Don't change your nick in a busy channel"01:55
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: kicker is dying01:55
hikaricoremardi: you didn't modify your sudoers file recently did you?01:55
MinatakuNot "Watch your f*cking language"01:55
MinatakuThat * is an "o", BTW01:55
PhinnFortoo01:55
MinatakuNot my fault if you think like that01:56
DragnslcrShouldn't it be an 's'?01:56
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: there is no love between me and kicker heh01:56
pagan0nenot watch your fscking language?01:56
Arwenmardi, when's the last time you had to enter your password?01:56
hikaricorefrack01:56
PriceChildMinataku, this is offtopic. please take it to pm with me if you want.01:56
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: seriously, kicker is going away in KDE 401:56
Minatakufsck is FileSystem ChecK01:56
mardihikaricore: maybe, i did enable this user to be part of the sudo group01:56
mardiArwen: only at login, upon boot01:56
Arwenhmm01:56
Minatakufock is FOr Crap's saKe01:56
MinatakuI just made that up but w/e01:56
MinatakuXD01:56
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: actually Ive been told it will still be there until 4.1 because the applet stuff hasnt been finnished01:56
PriceChild!offtopic | Minataku01:56
ubotuMinataku: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:56
PhinnForthikaricore: we recently had a concert here, and one of the bands decided to cover rage against the machine, but with a certain twist: "frack you, I won't do you what you told me"01:56
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MinatakuPriceChild: Okay, getting tired now01:57
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: Aaron keeps saying it will never be repaired for KDE 4 because it won't be used, though01:57
MinatakuIf you're gonna harass me about being offtopic you have to harass EVERYONE01:57
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PhinnFort*bends01:57
MinatakuCome on, get to it, chop chop01:58
Linux_Galorewell Im talking kde issues in 4.0alpha01:58
MinatakuDidn't think so01:58
intelikeyok i've been playing with the functions in that script it seems that it's in the redirrected input of the read command.01:58
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PhinnFortLinux_Galore: it's still 3.8, or is it 3.9?01:58
MinatakuAlso, sorry for getting out of hand again01:59
intelikeyi need to know how dash handles <<<   it's probably not usable  and needs to be  <   ?01:59
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: yeah I know but thats what it being posted as01:59
MinatakuIt's hot in here >.<01:59
PhinnFortMinataku: same here, it's flaming, you might say01:59
hikaricore...01:59
hikaricorethat was terrible01:59
PhinnFortheh02:00
Linux_Galore<sigh>02:00
hikaricoresadly "man dash" just brings up the sh man pages02:00
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hikaricore>.<02:00
=== Linux_Galore doesnt like dash
=== PhinnFort neither
PhinnFortbut I almost understand why the maintainers that be set it as default02:00
PhinnFortif it wasn't for bug #102:01
Linux_GaloreI have allot of python stuff ans scripts dash totally messes allot of it up02:01
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PhinnFortLinux_Galore: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash02:01
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PhinnFortset bash back in power02:02
Linux_GalorePhinnFort: done that, Im using bash now02:02
PhinnFort:D02:02
PhinnFortit's a pain to track down dash related bugs02:02
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hikaricoreI remember after upgrading to edgy the first time I could barely use cli because of dash02:02
hikaricoreeverything was fubared02:02
intelikey"dash related bugs"   wouldn't that be better defined as non-posix bashism ?02:02
hikaricore>.<02:02
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PhinnFortfun02:03
PhinnFortintelikey: well, yeah, but still;)02:03
intelikey:)02:03
Linux_Galoredash to me is analism gone mad02:03
PhinnFortLinux_Galore: aka. debianism?;)02:03
Linux_Galoreyeah02:03
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Linux_GaloreI was hoping Ubuntu would avoid it02:04
hikaricorepfft02:04
intelikeyhere yall go again saying i'm debianic02:04
PhinnFortwell, when you base something so much on another thing, you're bound to get some of the less fortunate stuff with it02:04
PhinnFortdebianistic02:04
PriceChildPhinnFort, to -offtopic please.02:04
Linux_Galorewell at least Ubuntu hasnt forked firefox02:05
intelikeyyet02:05
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PhinnFort*cough*ubuntustillcatchinguptodebianjustwaitandsee*cough*02:06
Linux_Galorelol02:06
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PhinnFortsorry, PriceChild, I don't know what just happened02:06
Linux_Galorethey need to take more Analism vitamins @ Ubuntu dev's02:07
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PriceChild!offtopic02:07
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:07
PriceChildSupport only people.02:07
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Linux_Galorethat was meant as a joke02:07
PriceChildPlease stop commenting... move on :)02:08
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Ace2016Hi all02:14
Ace2016does kompozer work for anyone else???02:14
PhinnFortAce2016: where?02:14
hikaricoreWorks fine for me.02:14
mardihi, i mistakenly remove the adm and admin groups from my user. now i get "Su returned with an error" when trying to do root things, anyone know how to fix this?02:14
BluesKajwhat's komposer?02:15
Ace2016PhinnFort: what do you mean where?02:15
Ace2016hikaricore: mine segfaults02:15
PhinnFortAce2016: what is kompozer/where can I get it?02:15
Ace2016its in the reos02:15
Ace2016repos*02:15
hikaricoreAce2016: Ohh now that I think of it, mine did too.02:16
PhinnFort!info kompozer02:16
ubotuPackage kompozer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:16
PhinnFortno;)02:16
hikaricoreAce2016: I removed mine and replaced it with a version from getdeb.net02:16
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hikaricore>.<02:16
BluesKaj!kompozer02:16
ubotunvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.02:16
intelikeymardi you'll have to boot into safe/recovery mode and add the groups or set a root password02:16
mardiintelikey: thanks! i'll give that a go :D02:17
PhinnFortintelikey: gpasswd -a usernam groupname02:17
PhinnFortI mean mardi02:17
intelikeymardi actually admin is the one  you need02:17
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PhinnFortmardi: run gpasswd -a [username]  admin02:17
intelikeyPhinnFort without root access     possably but not likely02:17
PhinnFortintelikey: i meant when she was in recovery02:18
intelikeyPhinnFort oh.   yeah.   or usermod  and add the group02:18
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mardiok, that worked, rebooting now02:19
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willrjmarshallDumb question - but how do I see which groups a user belongs to?02:20
intelikeygroups02:20
intelikeyor more specificly  groups username    if you don't want to run it on the present user02:22
willrjmarshallHmm. "www" doesn't show :/02:22
PhinnFortok, wtf does Konqueror _always_ open .deb files I download from the 'net in Kate?02:22
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PhinnFortfriggin irritating02:22
willrjmarshallPhinnFort: There's a right-click context menu for using it properly02:22
PhinnFortwillrjmarshall: from webpages?02:23
willrjmarshallOh. Hang on - opens automatically without clicking?02:23
willrjmarshallGo change it :p02:23
mardiintelikey, PhinnFort: that fixed it, thanks much for the help :)02:23
PhinnFortwillrjmarshall: if I choose to save as, it tries to deduce the filename from the link, so it's usually download.php02:23
PhinnFortmardi: yw;)02:23
intelikeynot at all mardi02:23
hikaricorethere's your problem lol02:24
willrjmarshallPeh02:24
PhinnFortwillrjmarshall: I click on the link to download something (from for example kde-apps.org), and then kate pops up02:24
willrjmarshallI see02:24
willrjmarshallThat *would* be a pain02:24
PhinnFortit is02:24
willrjmarshallI'm fairly sure Konq allows you to configure filemask behaviour02:24
willrjmarshallBut I wouldn't know how02:24
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intelikeymime types02:25
intelikeyin the konq config02:25
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=== intelikey doesn't even have kde installed......
nosrednaekimwow...02:25
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PhinnFortwell, x-debs are associated with Ark02:26
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intelikeyok i think what you are running into is pretty loop legged.  but the download manager is what is "opening" the file, and not konqueror itself.   check that out maybe.02:28
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Ace2016hikaricore: thanks that worked :)02:28
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intelikeynow if i can just figure out a way to get an array of something to work in a dash script where   while read line <here_docs   doesn't work cause it's a 'bash' thang !   .........02:30
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intelikeyseems that every thing i think of to use there turns out to be a 'bash thang'   i obviously spent too much time learning 'bash' and not enough learning the differances02:38
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dave__hi02:39
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intelikeydave__02:45
intelikeyeveryone already has a pastebin script ?   this one is posix compliant  :)     http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3731902:47
PhinnFortJust what do you think you're doing, Dave? Dave, I really think I'm entitled to an answer to that question.02:47
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intelikeyis he snooping around your box ?02:48
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PhinnFortHAL: I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.02:48
MinatakuLet you do that02:48
PhinnFortDave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.02:48
MinatakuI'm afraid I can't let you do that02:48
MinatakuI haven't even seen the movie and I know that line :P02:48
PhinnFort:P02:48
hikaricoreI hate when people muck up good quotes02:48
PhinnFortwell, I'm c&p from wikiquote02:48
PhinnFortso I think it's accurate02:49
hikaricorethat's your problem02:49
hikaricorewiki = fail02:49
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PhinnFortdelete .kde?02:49
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PhinnFortBluesKaj, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.02:50
PhinnFort- HAL02:50
hikaricorei think hald is the son of HAL02:50
hikaricoreheh02:50
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PhinnFortI saw your lips moving02:50
PhinnFort(or something)02:50
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intelikeywouldn't that be hal jr  not hald ?02:51
mindslantis there a GUI way to add reposotories?02:51
intelikeymindslant yes  in adept02:51
intelikey!repos02:51
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:51
hikaricoreintelikey: nope, that's what they want you to think02:51
intelikeyi think that has some info on it.02:52
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mindslantI feel like an idiot, thx02:52
intelikeyhowever i don't even try to keep up with the wiki's02:53
intelikeythey are about as stable as water02:53
intelikeyas unmovable as air,  as solid as space;  as permanant as lightening.....02:54
intelikeybut all things considered, they are pretty good....02:55
intelikey:)02:55
drblood_how can i turn my sound up higher02:55
intelikeyalsamixer02:55
intelikeyadjust  pcm  and master02:55
intelikey?02:56
pawitp!maroska02:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about maroska - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:56
pawitp!mkv02:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:56
drblood_i was watching an episode of an anime02:56
drblood_on a site02:56
drblood_then i turned on a song from another site while running it so then the sound got 10x softer02:56
drblood_i can barely hear it :'(02:56
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intelikeysome people cry about the strangest things...02:57
drblood_i cant watch my anime02:57
drblood_>_>02:57
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intelikeyalsamixer02:57
intelikeykmix maybe too02:58
drblood_.......02:58
drblood_wat should i do?02:58
intelikeyyou sould wait for someone else to answer you.02:58
drblood_y02:58
intelikeynext !02:58
GrueTamertype alsamixer in the terminal02:58
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drblood_now wat02:59
GrueTamerturn up pcm and master, sometimes master mono helps too, if you have it02:59
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drblood_how do u turn it up02:59
GrueTamerup arrow02:59
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drblood_im using kubuntu03:00
GrueTameryeah...03:00
BluesKajunmute with the letter M, and make sure the ctrls show 0003:00
drblood_i dont see an arrow03:00
GrueTameralsamixer isnt a (k)ubuntu thing03:00
GrueTamerno, use the up arrow key03:00
BluesKajthe slider title is highlighted in red03:01
drblood_i pressed the up arrow king03:01
drblood_arrow key*03:01
drblood_didnt do n e thin03:01
GrueTameris it already maxed?03:01
drblood_no03:01
intelikey!info alsamixergui03:02
drblood_PCM has 1 green bar03:02
ubotualsamixergui: graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0rc2-1-9 (feisty), package size 29 kB, installed size 148 kB03:02
GrueTamerturn it up03:02
drblood_front 1 red03:02
drblood_then everything else has nothing at all03:02
GrueTamerlike, keep hitting the up arrow03:02
BluesKaj!alsa03:02
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drblood_am i supposed to click on something03:02
GrueTamerno03:02
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP303:02
GrueTamerhave the volume thing that you want to make louder selected and hit the up arrow key repeatedly03:03
drblood_do u want me to have the terminal maximized03:03
GrueTamerno03:03
drblood_wen hitting the up arrow key03:03
drblood_hm03:03
drblood_i just press the up arrow key03:03
drblood_?03:03
GrueTamerkeep hitting it, and if it doesnt do anything, try increasing master mono03:03
GrueTamermake sure that it doesnt say MM though, if it does, hit the m key03:03
GrueTamerone time03:03
GrueTamerthen raise it03:04
drblood_i dont press ctr+up key?03:04
GrueTamerno03:04
drblood_i dont get it03:04
GrueTamer!info alsamixergui03:04
ubotualsamixergui: graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0rc2-1-9 (feisty), package size 29 kB, installed size 148 kB03:04
GrueTameryou might prefer that03:04
drblood_i type in alsamixer on the terminal03:04
drblood_then press the up arrow key?03:04
drblood_thats it?03:04
GrueTamerpress the up arrow key multiple times to keep increasing the volume03:05
GrueTamerhitting it once increases it one level03:05
drblood_the level doesnt go up03:05
GrueTamerthen its maxed03:05
drblood_now it does03:05
GrueTamernow go to the master mono column, if it exist, by using the right or left arrow key, depending on the direction03:05
drblood_i see the problem03:05
drblood_u had to select a category thing03:05
drblood_:-D03:05
drblood_<303:05
drblood_ty03:06
GrueTamerdid it work?03:06
drblood_yes03:06
drblood_<303:06
GrueTamerjust goes to show what the terminal can do for you03:06
GrueTamerand your welcome03:06
drblood_thankyou!03:07
drblood_sorry im a noob with kubuntu tho :\03:07
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intelikeydrblood_ we all had to start somewhere.03:10
intelikeydon't worry about it.03:10
willrjmarshallBeing a noob is fun!03:10
willrjmarshallEverything is cool and mysterious03:10
intelikeyyeah  even after 10 years it's still kinda fun to be a noob       heh !03:10
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willrjmarshallI've only been using Linux for 6 months, so I still find myself a noob regularly03:11
intelikeyi've used linux so long now, i'm kinda sick of it.   but all it takes is 30 seconds at a windows box; and i'm all zealotic again....03:13
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intelikeysomeone mentioned two days ago "why don't you use plan9..."03:14
intelikey  hehhe  i have...03:14
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intelikeyso i just kinda ignored the statement at the time.03:15
willrjmarshallintelikey: I've never actually used Windows. How bad is it?03:15
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drblood_o.o03:16
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intelikeywillrjmarshall if you're a control freek like i am.  totally unbareable !   if you want things to "just work" and never see how or why and you don't read the EULA,  and you don't care about the price, and you don't care if the software lies to you....  i guess it's not too bad.03:17
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intelikeyoh and did i mention you have to live with your consciense knowing the evil practices that M$ has been, and still is involved in....03:18
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intelikeyother than those few minor things,  hey it's great.03:18
intelikeybut don't get me started.03:19
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intelikey</rant>03:20
willrjmarshallHeh03:21
willrjmarshallI've fiddled with XP a few times before - only thing I noticed was that the UI sucks03:21
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DragnslcrXP's interface only sucks if you don't change the color scheme and a lot of the stuff to classic mode03:22
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intelikeyno not only if.  but changing it does help a little03:22
BluesKajran windows for 7 yrs before switching03:22
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intelikeyi ran win 3.1 95 98 and then found linux    needless to say win ME had gotten bad enough i wasn't going to continue down that digression.03:24
DragnslcrHeh03:25
DragnslcrI had 3.11, 95 (for a bit), 98, 2k, and XP03:25
BluesKajkubuntu was finally the distro that doesn't have such a steep learning curve that old guys like me can learn to use it.03:25
Evil_DuDei ran windows 95 to xp and got tired of it03:25
Evil_DuDeBluesKaj: well, thats very good for you03:25
intelikeyi still have 95,  kept it for the kids's games.03:25
Evil_DuDeheh :)03:25
Evil_DuDeis it connected to internet ?03:26
intelikeyno03:26
DragnslcrI installed Kubuntu on my parents' computer. I doubt they'll keep it for long though03:26
Evil_DuDeyeah, good decision :)03:26
Evil_DuDeyeah, my friend is also trying to get his mother to use Ubuntu03:26
intelikeyar you crazy.  you think i want someone messing up my linux system just cause the kids booted windows....03:26
RawSewagedoes WoW run perfectly in Kubuntu03:27
HirvinenDragnslcr: Well, my grandmother's happy with hers.03:27
DragnslcrUnfortunately they have two or three programs that only work in Windows03:27
DragnslcrOne of them requires IE03:27
Evil_DuDeRawSewage: they sai it does, but haven't tested myself03:27
drblood_how do u send folders over to someone using Kopete03:27
RawSewageEvil_DuDe, ok ty03:27
BluesKajstill have XP on a partition for keeping up with stuff ...my daughter finally got a laptop and i walk thru windows apps with her to help her learn.03:27
intelikeyEvil_DuDe that's simple,   install it and configure it,  then give her the box, and say 'here use this, and call me if you need me'   you wont get called much.03:27
Evil_DuDeoh say i mean03:27
HirvinenRawSewage: Yes. In general, you should search Wine's application database to find out if a particular program is working.03:28
Evil_DuDeintelikey: yeah :)03:28
HirvinenRawSewage: http://appdb.winehq.org/03:28
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HirvinenRawSewage: You might have to(or want to) use a version of wine newer than the one supplied with Feisty. See http://winehq.com/ for the repository.03:29
DragnslcrMy girlfriend needs a new laptop soon, I might get her another Dell if I can convince her to use Kubuntu03:29
HirvinenRawSewage: Whoops, http://appdb.winehq.com/03:29
RawSewageHirvinen, ok03:29
intelikeymy mother is 65 and i put linux on her's cause i didn't want to admin a M$ machine...  she called me about three times.   "printer reset"  that's the only issue.03:29
RawSewageHirvinen, yeah, I was reading that now03:29
intelikeyEvil_DuDe ^03:29
BluesKajcool, intelikey03:29
Evil_DuDecool :)03:29
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BluesKaj<--almost 64 ...hmmms03:30
Evil_DuDeoh wow03:31
intelikeyi never have exactly figured out why.  but if she cancels a print job after it starts printing.  it hangs cups out to dry...  i can manually reset the printer and all is well,  but it's a drive over there to do that....03:31
Evil_DuDethats pretty impressing, i must say :)03:31
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Evil_DuDeBluesKaj: haha :D03:32
DragnslcrI left an XP CD for my parents last time I went to try to get some crappy Windows-only stuff working in VMWare03:32
proxieanybody use Amarok by any chance?03:32
DragnslcrTheir last install got completely hosed by some anti-spam program tech support idiot03:32
Evil_DuDeproxie: me03:32
HirvinenMy grandmother's over 70. I think the only problem has been with me fucking up her sources.list, which resulted in a system that didn't get to X. I then talked her through setting up an ssh tunnel that allowed me to connect there past her router's NAT on the phone. ;)03:32
proxieEvil_DuDe: You know if it's possible to display your collection listing differently?03:33
HirvinenWhoops, sorry about the language.03:33
BluesKajnot all old guys sit in front of the tv all day03:33
Evil_DuDeproxie: what do you mean,03:33
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proxieLike when I click on the + it lists all the albums for that artist03:34
intelikeyBluesKaj i don't own a "tv"  :)03:34
proxieI would liek to add in the "year" of the album03:34
proxielike*03:34
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Evil_DuDeahh yeah sure03:34
proxieahhh crap. I just found it :)03:35
proxie"Group By"03:35
proxiewoohoo03:35
BluesKajyeah , prolly got a 26" monitor that has video feeds from pc and sat dish or cable conn :)03:35
Evil_DuDeyeah :D03:35
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Charles_HKGWhere can I find addins for Konquerer that will allow me ot have multiple email accounts and passwords and a decent contact manager like ACT for microshyte?03:35
intelikeyBluesKaj short screen at that...     but no 17" crt actually.   and a donkey load of 15"er's03:36
DragnslcrOuch03:36
DragnslcrI had a 19" CRT for years03:36
DragnslcrUpgraded to a 20" LCD last year03:36
DragnslcrI can't do anything less than 1600x120003:37
BluesKajheh, same here ...use my 17" as a tv some nights, (spare sat receiver)...tv wonder pro and tvtime03:37
intelikeybest monitor i have ever looked at for more than a minute.  is a 15" svga    so clean clear sharp and yet soft on the eyes.   they don't make them like that anymore.03:38
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intelikeyanymore seems like everything wants to "(lazor) slice your eyes to ribbons"  but looks good doing it.03:39
BluesKajreally gotta fiddle with the contrast tho..waaay outta line..total white bloom otherwise03:40
DragnslcrMy 20" Samsung is pretty nice03:40
DragnslcrHuge improvement over my old CRT03:40
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intelikeyi wish this crt was about .5 as bright over all.  bright set to 0   contrast set to 40% is to bright still.03:41
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DragnslcrMaybe I should try getting Beryl running again03:41
BluesKajlcd must have come a long way over the last few yrd03:41
DragnslcrYeah, they have03:41
intelikeyindeed they have.03:41
intelikeybut still have a ways to go imo.03:42
BluesKajmy crt blooms only in the TV mode03:42
DragnslcrI was a bit worried when I was looking to buy one, since they usually didn't handle games well03:42
Evil_DuDeI think so too, but i rather buy LCD nowadays03:42
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intelikeywhen angle doesn't affect them then they will be good.03:43
Evil_DuDeyeah, thats true03:43
BluesKajyup, agreed03:43
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DragnslcrMine is barely affected by angle03:43
intelikeyDragnslcr really ?03:43
DragnslcrI can see the screen pretty well out to 160-170 degrees03:44
Evil_DuDevery nice03:44
intelikeyimpressed.03:44
intelikeyooops03:44
BluesKajonly 10degrees of scrn03:44
intelikey>/impressed>03:44
intelikey</impressed>03:44
intelikeyi'll get it wrong in a minute03:44
Evil_DuDei can only turn something like 60 degrees03:45
Evil_DuDethen the colors get messed up a little03:45
DragnslcrOf course I'm red-green color blind, so I probably wouldn't notice color distortion anyway03:45
Evil_DuDebut this is very old LCD, about two years old i think03:45
intelikeyyeah that's what i'm used to seeing Evil_DuDe03:45
BluesKajbummer03:45
intelikeypeople don't have new hardware worked on.....03:46
Evil_DuDebut i'm thinking of buying a new LCD, something like 20" or 20"03:46
Evil_DuDeoh 21"03:46
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intelikeyshort screen ?03:46
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BluesKajso i guess you look for which light is lit at intersections "the top one being red and the bottom green"03:46
Evil_DuDedunno yet03:46
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intelikeythey call it "wide"  but i know short when i see short....03:47
Evil_DuDeyeah :D03:47
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Evil_DuDebut i don't have very much money right now and i'm about to start my civil service03:47
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intelikeyBluesKaj that's confusing in some towns where they're horizontal ....03:48
SillyZq: theres php-nuke, and there was another one, and ill be damned if i can remember its name its php-something....03:48
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radioaktivstormis there a way to change the orientation of kde....by that i mean everything seems to like horizontal scrolling, which i feel is immensely inconvienent03:48
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intelikeySillyZ  apt-cache search -n php03:49
BluesKajintelikey, never seen that here in Canada03:49
SillyZya Ive done that intel03:49
intelikeyBluesKaj it's mostly phased out down here too.03:49
BluesKajI'm tired ...been outside all day ...worn out03:50
BluesKajnite gents & gentilles03:50
Evil_DuDeI'm little tired too, haven't slept in 24 hours or so03:51
DragnslcrSillyZ- what are you looking for, a program to give people root access to your box?03:51
intelikeyheh03:51
SillyZheh no, if i wanted to do that id just post the root password on youtube03:51
SillyZ:D03:51
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Evil_DuDeyeah :D03:51
Evil_DuDecheap and free ftp-server :)03:51
DragnslcrHeh, I think phpnuke would be easier03:51
SillyZI used to run a php based site, it wasnt php-nuke it was the other one, but ill be damned if I can remember the name of it03:51
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radioaktivstormalso is there a way to  keep one row of tasks beyond 35px?03:52
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Evil_DuDei mean fast and free :D03:52
Evil_DuDedamn, i think i should go to bed :D03:52
Evil_DuDewriting all kind of nonsense :D03:52
intelikeywhat am i saying03:52
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Evil_DuDeonoes03:53
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jacquesdoes someone know a mirror to download the kubuntu gutsy cdimage?03:54
intelikeyradioaktivstorm that should be one of the  FAQ's for this channel.... i don't know if it is even listed in the wikis or not.  but i do see lots of folks asking about the size/shape of the tray03:54
Evil_DuDenah, no need for bed i just listen Queen and have some good time :)03:55
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intelikeyi sussposss i kould install kde so i kould answer those kinds of kwestions.03:56
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Evil_DuDehaha, that reminds me of Mortal Kombat :D03:56
Evil_DuDeKredits and so on :)03:56
intelikey:)03:57
intelikeyi just kant find enough kurrage to attempt kde again.03:58
Kr4t05Hrm...03:58
Kr4t05Does anyone else have issues with SuperKaramba spazzing when Beryl starts?03:58
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radioaktivstormintelikey, thanks! ill poke around some more04:00
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intelikeyoh don't thank me.  all i've done was take up text buffer...04:00
intelikeycould have jsut as easily said " i don't know "     but i do see lots of folks asking about it in here....04:01
Dr_willis*BufferOverflow*04:01
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intelikeyturncates so no biggy04:01
intelikeyis biggy a word ?04:02
Kr4t05intelikey: biggie(04:03
Kr4t05**04:03
Kr4t05Bleh...04:03
intelikey}04:03
radioaktivstormX_X i am finding kde exceedingly hard to mod to fit my needs.04:03
intelikeyneed != want04:04
intelikey:)04:04
intelikeyKr4t05   sp biggie04:04
intelikeysorry; aspell could not spell (biggie) correctly!04:04
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intelikeybiggy either...04:05
Dr_willisHmm. Does superkaramba come wth any eye-candy applets by default?  The 'open' dialog is pointing to my home dir. not where any examples would be.04:05
Kr4t05Dr_willis: No, it doesn't come with any karamba04:05
Kr4t05Dr_willis: kde-look.org is a good place to get some.04:05
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Dr_willisKr4t05,  ok. Not seeing any 'example applets for karamba' in the package manager either.04:06
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Dr_willisjust seemed odd some one dident package a few of the better ones to get ya started. :)04:06
DaSkreechIt's mild mannered04:06
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DaSkreechDr_willis: better for who? :)04:07
DaSkreechAs I recall some people are underwhelmed by a  clock04:07
Dr_willis  Aha ---->   / usr/share/doc/superkaramba/examples/04:08
Dr_willisthere is a few examples. :)04:08
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Dr_willisDaSkreech,  that Clock in the Sidebar under Vista is my wifes Favoritet Feature.04:08
Dr_willisand that litte lightsout game.04:08
DaSkreechThere is a game?04:09
DaSkreechAnd it's not sudoku? Fascinating04:09
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intelikeyso stuperkaramba is a natural part of kde ?   i didn't know that.04:10
Dr_willisUnder vista's sidebar theres a Puzzle game (1-15) and a Lights Out game. Shes discovered. :)04:10
Dr_willisShe wants similer things under KDE for herself.04:10
Dr_willisso im tracking them down for her.04:10
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DaSkreechDr_willis: service pack 1?04:10
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  No idea. She has a Cheap Laptop that came with Vista. and shes getting sick of it. so shes going tohbe learning Kubuntu soon.. :)04:11
DaSkreechDr_willis: ahh the toucan can be changed to numbers04:11
DaSkreechI dont see lights out though04:12
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DaSkreechCan you ask the good doctor's Wife where she got the Lights out?04:12
Dr_willisHmm she may of installed that herself.04:12
DaSkreechintelikey: Common sense?04:12
Dr_willisIt must of been on the vista games/sidebar page. thats the only place she chould of looked.04:12
intelikeyDaSkreech well   i think it may be more   "prejudus" than sense....04:13
MinatakuDr_willis: :D04:13
Kr4t05Wow...04:13
Dr_willissomthing else i need to find is a Solitare Game (with simple solitare variants like for kids) with Zoomable cards. She likes to play without her glasses. so she needs BIG cards.04:13
Kr4t05Kore is very nice.04:13
DaSkreechDr_willis: following plasma?04:13
MinatakuDr_willis: Perhaps pysol04:13
MinatakuI know it has card set support04:13
MinatakuDunno if they can be zoomed04:14
Dr_willisshe perfers the Kids-type solitare where ya can put a black4 on a black5 and so forth - color dosent matter.04:14
MinatakuBut it's got assloads of Solitare variants04:14
Dr_willisPysol dosetn go big enough. she ends up setting her res to like 800x600 which really screws up everything else.04:14
Dr_willisOf course there may be new cardsets for pysol by now04:14
MinatakuAh04:14
DaSkreechMinataku: have you ever tried to fill an assload?04:14
Dr_willisGet a Great High-res monitor for her.. and what does she do.. sets it to 800x60004:15
DaSkreechIt's not nearly as much as it implies04:15
MinatakuDaSkreech: It takes an assload of ass to fill an assload04:15
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MinatakuDr_willis: Heh04:15
intelikeywell here's enough reason for a dialup user to "NOT" install kde     Need to get 33.8MB/248MB of archives.    the 33M is all updates sense the last time i did that.04:15
MinatakuDr_willis: So what were you doing all day today? :304:15
MinatakuI was playing videogames and sleeping XD04:15
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intelikeyok lagging off the irc scope.  gooday and happy penguins to all.04:18
DaSkreechintelikey: night04:19
Dr_willisMinataku,  looking at USED CARS04:19
trakinashey04:19
MinatakuDr_willis: Ouch04:19
Dr_willisMinataku,  and shes getting on my nerves04:19
MinatakuSounds sucky04:19
trakinasanyone good with video edition?04:19
MinatakuHeh04:19
Dr_willis'i just want a junker car.. for a few months that i can then trade in on the NEW car i want  later'04:19
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MinatakuThat's... pretty stupid04:19
Dr_willisWelcome to being MARRIED. :)04:19
MinatakuHaha04:20
Dr_willisbut it keeps her busy. Otherwise she may be trying to redecorate the house., or somthing else that would be real work for me04:20
MinatakuHey, do you think shipping in separate boxes will cost more than putting everything in one or about the same (or less)?04:20
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Dr_willisMinataku,  id guess about the same. theygo by weight dont they?04:21
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Ashexanyone know how to restart the kde panels?04:22
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Dr_willisMy Brother gave me another Amiga Monitor today. :004:22
Ashexthey're being unresponsive to my clicks04:22
Dr_willisThey make great little tv's04:22
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MinatakuDr_willis: I think so04:22
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MinatakuDr_willis: Do you have any of that ready to send?04:22
khirri have the driver for my webcam, how can i configure it?04:22
khirrwhere is the folfer where it should be?04:23
jacqueshas someone used elisa before?04:23
DaSkreechAshex: kicker04:23
Dr_willisMinataku,  i got the Scsi HD in a box thats about 1/2 full. looking for those Calculators to toss in. Found 1 so far04:23
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Dr_willisfound some foam also to pack it with.04:23
DaSkreech!webcam04:23
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras04:23
AshexDaSkreech, kill it?04:23
MinatakuDr_willis: Coo, what about the four Amigas and the PSU?04:23
trakinasAshex: i dont know. guess you can remove it and start a new one.04:23
MinatakuNot trying to rush, just trying to defuse my own growing excitement XD04:23
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trakinasAshex: no. restarte kicker.04:23
Dr_willisI cant find a box the right size for them. VCR box's  got are too small. others are too big..04:23
trakinas=P04:23
DaSkreechAshex: well If it's not responding04:24
MinatakuAh04:24
Dr_williswanting to  pack them decently well.04:24
MinatakuIndeed04:24
khirrmy webcam is vimicro04:24
MinatakuWho knows what UPS/USPS or whoever's cheapest will do to them04:24
trakinasi never saw an amiga... =(04:24
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Dr_willisplys im finding other 'bits' here and there. The memory expansion units in another box..  a load of the Old atari type joysticks (need those?)04:24
khirri found that one guy made 200+ drivers for this04:24
MinatakuYeah, may as well toss in a couple of them04:24
MinatakuThey have some proprietary mouse, ne?04:24
trakinaskhirr: you probably have to run any webcam program to configure it.04:24
MinatakuI can probably use a joystick as a pointing device XD04:25
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snowdonkeyHi.  I'm having problems with Konsole running slowly.  It takes about 10 seconds for the prompt to appear, and another 10 seconds to close once I hit the X.04:25
Ashexhmm04:25
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khirrbut, when i use amsn, it doesnt run04:25
AshexDaSkreech, killing it by pid or name doesn't appear to be working04:25
khirrto configure, either04:25
DaSkreechsnowdonkey: try xterm04:25
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vonkrolokhi guys, got a prob with texlive2007 installation, can somebody help?04:25
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Ashexnevermind04:25
trakinaskde is generaly slow here. im probably going to install e17 or xfce04:25
Ashexkill -3 PID worked04:26
trakinasvonkrolok: just ask, dont ask to ask.04:26
snowdonkeydaskreech xterm is also running slowly, similar symptoms.04:26
vonkroloktrakinas: it's a bit long, if somebody is willing I'll get to that, but typing and not getting reply is frustrating04:26
Minatakukill alone sends SIGTERM, kill -9 sends SIGKILL04:26
DaSkreechsnowdonkey: That aint' good04:26
MinatakuAlways do alone first, followed by -904:26
vonkroloktrakinas: anyhow, I started the install script sh04:27
khirrT_T04:27
vonkroloktrakinas: with root priviledges04:27
MinatakuSIGTERM btw is Signal 1504:27
vonkroloktrakinas: but unexplicably I get  this error message04:27
snowdonkeydaskreech Could it have to do with graphics drivers?  I'm using the latest Nvidia proprietary.04:27
vonkroloktrakinas:  Cannot stat: No such file or directory04:27
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trakinasvonkrolok: hmmmm... where are you trying to install it?04:28
vonkroloktrakinas: supposedly with root it should be able to create those dirs, but apparetly it doesn't04:28
vonkroloktrakinas: default dirs04:28
trakinasstrange.04:29
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trakinaswhat about tex2007 own faqs?04:29
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vonkroloktrakinas: doesn't say a thing about it04:29
vonkrolokaccording to them I should type04:30
vonkroloktrakinas: sh install-tl.sh and it should go smooth04:30
vonkroloktrakinas: not exactly the case apparently04:30
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DaSkreechsnowdonkey: that shouldn't make just the konsoles slow04:30
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MinatakuDr_willis: By the way, thanks again for donating all your "trash" to me X304:31
snowdonkeydaskreech Ok, I was trying to think of what changed since I last installed Dapper.  :-/04:31
vonkroloktrakinas: in particular it seems uncapable to access dirs in the texmf-dist main root04:31
trakinashmmmm... what about google?  couldnt find anything?04:32
excitatorySo does anyone else experience random hard freezes in feisty?  I've been exhaustively searching various forums, mailing lists, and bug reports and are finding piles of users with the very same problem.  It tends to be independent of the video card and if desktop effects are enabled or not.04:32
DaSkreechsnowdonkey: what do you have in your ~/.bash_logout ?04:32
vonkroloktrakinas: been bashing my head on that for about 2 weeks...nothing done04:33
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Dr_willisMinataku,  heh told the wife to help me pack stuff for ya.. she said 'ya going to pay me?'04:33
Dr_willisI wont repeate my reply to her.. :) this is a faimly channel04:33
snowdonkeydaskreech Here's what my ~/.bash_logout says:04:33
MinatakuDr_willis: XD04:33
snowdonkey# ~/.bash_logout: executed by bash(1) when login shell exits.04:34
snowdonkey# when leaving the console clear the screen to increase privacy04:34
snowdonkeyif [ "$SHLVL" = 1 ] ; then04:34
snowdonkey    [ -x /usr/bin/clear_console ]  && /usr/bin/clear_console -q04:34
snowdonkeyfi04:34
DaSkreechsnowdonkey: patsebin it04:34
DaSkreech!paste | snowdonkey04:34
ubotusnowdonkey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:34
Dr_willisshe does a lot of catalog ordering - and darn it - if i can find any of the 100's of box's shes got to have SOMEWHERE in this house.04:34
MinatakuDr_willis: Heehee04:34
snowdonkeydaskreech Ok, I'm new to IRC so gimme a sec to figure out pastebin04:34
Dr_willisisent there some pastebin command/cli tool that makes using it a little easier?04:35
khirrhow is the instrucction? make?04:35
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Dr_willisie: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinthisforme04:35
vonkroloktrakinas: now even access denied...jee...I'm with root privis04:35
Dr_williswould return the pastebin url?04:35
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hitmanWillyDr_willis, would be nice04:36
Minatakusudo doesn't provide true root privliges04:36
snowdonkeydaskreech Well as it is what's above are all the contents of the file anyway.04:36
trakinasvonkrolok: where you took it? i have to leave. my wirst is killing me....04:36
MinatakuThere are still some actions which require true root access04:36
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Dr_willisisent there a 'cls' command to clear the console?04:36
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trakinasMinataku: like sudo su?04:36
Minatakuclear04:36
DaSkreechsnowdonkey: Yeah just letting you know that you should pastebin from here on out04:36
trakinasDr_willis: clear04:36
Minatakutrakinas: Something like that04:36
DaSkreechIf it;s longer than one line04:36
trakinasDr_willis: or control+l04:37
vonkroloktrakinas: from a console with a sudo su command04:37
Dr_willisi recall some 'echo escape-somthing' as a cls alias years ago. :004:37
Dr_willisThe serial-terminal days. :004:37
snowdonkeydaskreech Ok.  Then I just paste the url?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24932/04:37
MinatakuHey, I never knew of Ctrl+L04:37
DaSkreechtrakinas: like cd into a root owned dir04:37
DaSkreechsnowdonkey: Yes04:37
hitmanWillyMinataku, that's a new one for me too04:37
trakinasMinataku: =P04:37
trakinasnow, i really have to leave. cheers folks!04:38
MinatakuHave a link to Japanese QVC. You can watch online! http://qvc.jp04:38
MinatakuXD04:38
snowdonkeydaskreech Do you see anything out of the ordinary?04:39
DaSkreechsnowdonkey: no looks good and small as well04:39
MinatakuHeh04:39
MinatakuNot counting blank lines and comments mine is even smaller04:40
MinatakuIt's just "clear"04:40
Minataku:D04:40
Dr_willisI thought ctrl-l was redraw tthe screen.. or "formfeed" :) for printing04:40
MinatakuDr_willis: That's really all "clear" does04:40
MinatakuIt pushes everything off the top and reprints the prompt there04:41
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DaSkreechclear prints like 23 lines I think04:41
Minatakued@Piyoko /ext/D/Unix/Xenix/80386 2.3.4q $ file /usr/bin/clear04:42
Minataku/usr/bin/clear: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped04:42
MinatakuHeehee, it's just your average executable04:42
khirrmake04:42
khirrmake install (ste como root)04:42
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khirrhow should i write this line of code on console?04:42
Minatakukhirr: "make; sudo make install"04:43
khirrmake04:43
khirrmake install (ste como root)04:43
khirruhmm04:43
khirrmake: command not found04:43
hitmanWillyid use the & operator myself, just to ensure make worked04:43
MinatakuYou're missing build tools04:43
Minataku!build04:43
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:43
Minataku!info build-essential04:44
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB04:44
Minataku>.>04:44
khirrbut, writeing make isnt enought?04:44
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Minatakukhirr: You need the make program04:44
MinatakuAlong with the compiler, linker and so on04:44
khirrmakfile?04:44
hitmanWillykhirr, did you do ./configure first?04:44
khirrno04:44
vonkrolokanybody ever tried to install texlive2007 from a DVD?04:44
MinatakuNo, the program /usr/bin/make04:44
khirrthere isnt that file04:44
Minataku!build | khirr04:45
ubotukhirr: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:45
MinatakuRead that04:45
hitmanWillyhmmmm, usually ./configure is what makes the makefile04:45
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MinatakuhitmanWilly: Considering he doesn't even have make, that'll fail04:45
MinatakuGuaranteed04:45
khirrbut,in the folder there is one file that say04:45
khirrMakefile04:45
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hitmanWillyhe doesn't have make? wow04:45
Minatakukhirr: You are missing the build tools04:46
MinatakuLook, you seem to be reading Spanish instructions04:46
khirri'll try it now04:46
Minataku!es | khirr04:46
ubotukhirr: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:46
MinatakuhitmanWilly: Kubuntu doesn't COME with make04:47
MinatakuOr gcc04:47
MinatakuOr anything of the sort04:47
MinatakuYou're actively discouraged from ever compiling anything, after all04:47
MinatakuWhy would they give you from the start the tools to do it when they don't want you to? :P04:48
khirrubotu i'm using manriva04:48
MinatakuSorry, I just think that's so stupid04:48
DaSkreechMore like not enough space on the install CD04:48
khirris something diferent?04:48
hitmanWillyme too04:48
MinatakuDaSkreech: No, you're actively discouraged from compiling04:48
DaSkreechkhirr: do you have make?04:48
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khirrmak?04:48
khirrmake?04:48
Minatakukhirr: If you're using Mandriva, why are you asking for help in #kubuntu ?04:48
DaSkreechMinataku: yes.. but it's also because there is no space on the CD04:48
hitmanWillykhirr, try man make and see if it returns anything04:49
MinatakuDaSkreech: Then why isn't it included as part of a network install?04:49
khirrcause, i was using of kubutu, are better person, in mandriva chanel, no one wanna hlp04:49
MinatakuThere's no excuse there04:49
Minatakukhirr: Good point04:49
khirrmake : command not found04:49
MinatakuYou have to pay for help with Mandriva04:49
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khirrexactly04:49
MinatakuDamn Frenchies, giving Linux a bad name04:49
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khirrbut, when i instlled kubuntu 7.04, not all ran good04:50
MinatakuAnd I thought Americans were greedy04:50
Dr_willis:)04:50
DaSkreechMinataku: cause it's using the same package from the Cd?04:50
MinatakuAt least we don't charge you for help with Linux04:50
MinatakuDr_willis: Heehee04:50
khirruhmm, my video drivers in kubuntu never run good04:50
khirris mycard integrate is VIA04:50
MinatakuSee, we ask for donations. They demand payment.04:50
Dr_willisThats often the fault of the video card makers and their drivers04:50
DaSkreechMinataku: Kubuntu is either south african or Scottish :)04:50
Dr_willisnot sure how well via is in that area however.04:50
MinatakuAfrican, but that's just the name04:51
DaSkreechkhirr: do you have the mandriva Cds?04:51
khirryes04:51
khirrdvd04:51
hitmanWillyMinataku, check this out http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/04:51
AoshiI need help!04:51
khirri just want configure my webcam T_T04:51
AoshiI have ntfs-config & ntfs-3g, but I still can't write in my ntfs partition!!!04:51
DaSkreechkhirr: then install the make RPM04:52
Jucatoanyone familiar with Bluetooth DUN? kinda need help getting IRC to work04:52
khirrexist?04:52
MinatakuhitmanWilly: Heehee04:52
MinatakuThat last one makes no sense to me, though04:53
MinatakuI like the Caldera one XD04:53
hitmanWillyMinataku, its from the warty release...04:53
hitmanWillyMinataku, google ubuntu warty naked or something like that :P04:53
MinatakuHeh04:53
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DaSkreechHi Jucato04:54
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snake_hi04:54
snowdonkeydaskreech A guy in #ubuntu thinks slow Xterm is just a KDE bug.  :-/  Not sure I buy that...04:54
DaSkreechkhirr: I don't know but I figure that it musr be on the CD04:54
khirrautomake04:54
DaSkreechsnowdonkey: xterm doesn't touch KDE04:54
khirri think it should be04:54
snake_i have a problem with my wireless device in kubuntu feisty04:54
Minatakukhirr: You need whatever passes for the build tools package in Mandriva04:54
khirri'll try with this file04:55
snowdonkeydaskreech: Alright, 1 myth debunked04:55
Dr_willisrun a x session with Just a xterm , and see if its slow.. No kde loaded at all.04:55
snake_the light is of and i can not connect with wireless04:55
khirris there oooooone tool for drivers for lkubuntu?04:55
khirrin esasywy?04:55
snowdonkeydr_willis Ok, I'll try that04:55
hitmanWillysnake_, what's the card model/brand?04:56
snake_even knetworkmanager can not find my wireless. anyone that can help please04:56
snake_intel 802.1104:56
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MinatakuDr_willis: twm04:56
Minataku:D04:56
hitmanWillyhmmm, intel usually works out of the box...04:56
snake_yes it was working but i restarted04:56
MinatakuYeah, Intel is on our side04:56
snake_and now it doesnt04:56
snake_i mean i restarted the pc04:57
hitmanWillymodule issue probably04:57
snake_do i have to reinstall something04:57
snake_??04:57
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khirrdo u know one easyway to configurate a via video card on kubuntu?04:57
DaSkreechsnake_: Laptop?04:58
snake_yes04:58
hitmanWillysnake_, try running iwconfig in a konsole and pastebin the out put please04:58
snake_ok04:58
hitmanWilly!paste | snake_04:58
DaSkreechsome laptops have a physical kill switch for the Wireless see if you tripped it04:58
ubotusnake_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:58
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Minatakubrb04:59
snake_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24935/05:00
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hitmanWillysnake_, ok, your wireless card is there, its just not connected to anything05:00
snake_:S05:01
snake_hitmanWilly: so what do i have to do ?05:01
hitmanWillysnake_, apparently all the drivers are loaded...05:01
snowdonkeydaskreech, dr_willis: I got this error printed about 10 times when I logged in without KDE: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24937/05:01
hitmanWillysnake_, is wireless enabled in knetwork manager?05:01
snake_hitmanWilly: no05:01
hitmanWillysnake_, try enabling it05:02
Dr_willissnowdonkey,  since its a 1 line error message.. ya COULDof pasted it. :)05:02
Dr_willisata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/0405:02
snowdonkeyheh05:02
Dr_willisthat seems tobe saying to me - that ya got a hard drive issue.05:02
snake_no i mean it is enabled but it doesnt show my wireless connection05:02
snake_and the light of the wireless device is off05:02
DaSkreechDr_willis: not really05:02
DaSkreechWell maybe05:02
hitmanWillysnake_, do you know the name of the network you are trying to connect to?05:03
DaSkreechit doesn't make sense to me and I've never seen it before05:03
snake_yes05:03
hitmanWillysnake_, ok, try this in konsole:05:03
hitmanWillysudo ifup eth105:03
DaSkreechbut it could be feisty pretending that all IDE's are sata/scsi again05:03
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snake_hitmanWilly: ifup: interface eth1 already configured05:04
Dr_willistranslated ata error x51/40 to scsi x3/11/04 ?05:04
snake_hitmanWilly: i can find it with my kwifimanager and it connects too but i can not navigate05:04
snowdonkeydaskreech: I'm running Dapper.  After googling for the exact error this page did come up (looks to be HD problem): http://www.romantika.name/v2/2006/06/24/storage-emergency/05:04
MinatakuBack05:05
DaSkreechsnowdonkey: well that might be an issue then05:05
snake_it connects , the light turs on but i can not navigate and do nothing05:05
DaSkreechsnake_: do you get an IP05:05
snake_i use manual config05:05
snake_do i have to make dhcp ??05:05
DaSkreechcan you ping the gateway?05:06
hitmanWillysnake_, yes, most wireless routers are set up for dhcp05:06
DaSkreechsnake_: no05:06
snake_sure05:06
snake_i will try05:06
snake_to ping my gateway05:06
MinatakuMy router is split Static/Dynamic :305:06
snake_host unreacheable05:06
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Minatakusnake_: Move closer05:07
Minatakuj/k05:07
snowdonkeydaskreech: After reading some the guy replaced his motherboard & fixed it...hrm.05:07
MinatakuThat's not what it means05:07
MinatakuXD05:07
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hitmanWillysnake_, try "iwlist scanning" in a console05:08
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hitmanWillysnake_, see if that returns any results05:09
snake_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24940/05:09
snowdonkeydaskreech Thanks for your help getting to the bottom of this.  Same dr_willis.  :D05:09
jarnIs k3b capable of burning FLAC files?05:09
DaSkreechsnowdonkey: Sure sorry about the outcome05:10
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DaSkreechjarn: Why not :)05:10
jarnDaSkreech: I would assume it was, but I wasn't sure.05:10
hitmanWillysnake_, ok, you should be able to connect then...you may just have to input the ESSID manually05:10
Dr_willisjarn,  I think it is.05:10
snake_ah ok05:10
jarnDaSkreech: I know on my Windows computer I had an unbelievable amount of trouble finding something that could.05:10
khirri just want to configurate my webcam Y_Y05:10
jarnDr_willis: Okay, thanks.05:10
snake_hitmanWilly: you mean i have to write it manually05:11
MinatakuDr_willis: Remember that the "0x" is all important, it indicates that the following number is base 1605:11
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hitmanWillysnake_, in knetwork manager select connect to other wireless network, then input the name05:11
DaSkreechjarn: Nero can05:11
MinatakuDr_willis: Sorry, I get more pedantic when I get bored05:12
MinatakuXD05:12
jarnDaSkreech: Nero costs money though, no?05:12
snake_hitmanWilly: that is the problem that i do not have that option in knetwork manager05:12
DaSkreech!webcam | khirr05:12
ubotukhirr: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras05:12
Dr_willisMinataku,  it looked more like a date to me then a #05:12
hitmanWillysnake_, right clicking the system tray icon doesn't bring it up?05:12
MinatakuAh05:12
MinatakuNah, it was a hex number05:12
MinatakuBut you have a point looking at it again05:13
MinatakuXD05:13
snake_hitmanWilly: when i right click i get manual configuration , options help and quit05:13
hitmanWillysnake_, ok, hold on a minute...05:14
DaSkreechjarn: most things on Windows do05:14
jarnDaSkreech: Indeed. But I was looking for free stuff. Hopefully k3b will meet my needs.05:14
MinatakuDr_willis: Most of those ATA/SCSI errors are crazy long and barely well-defined05:15
hitmanWillysnake_, ok, go into system settings->Network settings05:15
MinatakuLike "{ DriveReady SeekComplete Error }"05:16
MinatakuWhat is that supposed to mean, anyway?05:16
Dr_willisMinataku,  heh - isent that one of the reasons for the Ata system rewriteing?05:16
MinatakuDr_willis: Eh... I don't like how ATA is gonna be sdx now05:16
Dr_willis"Answer hazy - ask again later"05:16
MinatakuThat's gonna screw up so many fstabs05:16
DaSkreechjarn: well It should run on Windows come KDE4 :)05:16
Dr_willisMinataku,  yep.. but thats psrt of the reason they are using UUID stuff now.05:16
DaSkreechk3b has only failed one test for me so far05:17
MinatakuDr_willis: I don't like that crap, either05:17
snake_hitmanWilly: ok i'm there05:17
hitmanWillysnake_, does eth1 show up in the box?05:17
DaSkreechand I can't afford the money to make it fail my other test :(05:17
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MinatakuSince if there's ever a need to remake the UUID or it's lost somehow05:17
MinatakuYou're also screwed05:17
Dr_willisMinataku,  of course i ALMOST installed to the wrong Drive because of the sda/hda conversion. I had sata and ide drives.. lucnly i noticed it was about to install to my windows drive. and stopped it :)05:17
hitmanWillysnake_, under network interfaces?05:17
jarnDaSkreech: I look forward to that day so much.05:17
snake_yes05:17
MinatakuDr_willis: Why?05:17
MinatakuXD05:17
hitmanWillysnake_, does it show as enabled?05:17
jarnDaSkreech: There is SO much KDE software that I love that I would love to run in Windows.05:18
Dr_willisMinataku,  remake the uuid? you can set the uuid as ya want i belive.05:18
snake_hitmanWilly: both of them05:18
snake_hitmanWilly: eth0 and eth105:18
MinatakuDr_willis: Right, but the second you do your fstab is invalid05:18
Dr_willisi tend to set up the fstab to moujnt based on disk LABEL :) More readable05:18
MinatakuI like setting it up to mount based on device05:18
hitmanWillysnake_, ok, you may need to set up manual configuration and have it save the settings then05:18
Dr_willisi also like to set the UUID to be stuff like 0000-0000-000001 :)05:18
MinatakuI like the more traditional ways05:18
snake_hitmanWilly: that is what i have done05:18
MinatakuDr_willis: Hardly unique ;305:18
jarnDaSkreech: Now if only it worked the other way. There is also SO much Windows software that I love that I would love to run in Linux (I'm looking at you, EAC and mp3tag!).05:18
Dr_willisFlexablity vs readablity.05:19
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snake_hitmanWilly: i have the dns and all the stuff configured05:19
snake_all of them05:19
hitmanWillysnake_, is it set up for dhcp or static?05:19
snake_static05:20
hitmanWillysnake_, ok, try changing it to dhcp...see if that helps05:20
MinatakuPersonally, I _hate_ the porting-to-Windows thing05:20
MinatakuIt just gives people less reason to use Linux05:20
MinatakuIt basically screws up any progress we've made05:21
MinatakuI say screw 'em, they wanna use it, they can switch05:21
kloplopA simple question, how do I intall the java run time environment? where It will also work in FireFox or the default browser?05:21
hitmanWillyMinataku, the double edged sword of open source :P05:21
MinatakuNot very nice, but damnit, a step backwards is a bad step05:21
kloplopAdept keeps freezing on me for installing J2RE05:21
Dr_williskloplop,  what verison of kubuntu  ya using?05:22
Minatakukloplop: You make it sound like it's punishing you05:22
MinatakuXD05:22
kloplop7.10 I got it to work on 6.10 but I don't remember how05:22
Dr_willisthere was an old issue where ya had to install it from the console/apt-get with some older kubuntus05:22
snake_hitmanWilly: thanx it works but isnt it better with static05:22
hitmanWillysnake_, also, is it set to activate on startup?05:22
hitmanWillysnake_, not really, at least not for regular desktop/laptop use05:23
snake_hitmanWilly: ok thanx05:23
khirris there some wasyway to configure one via integrate card?05:23
kloplopwhat is the code in the consol for installing, like apt -get or whatever? I am just getting into linux.05:23
hitmanWillysnake_, also, if the router is set up to use dhcp, you kinda have to on the computer end05:23
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Dr_willis!iso05:26
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.05:26
hitmanWillyDr_willis, you should tell the guys over on ##linux that you're using ubotu to answer their questions :P05:27
Dr_willishitmanWilly,  :)05:27
Dr_willishalf the time i forget and type !iso there.. or similer05:27
hitmanWillylol05:28
hitmanWillyDr_willis, what's worse is when you try to pipe it to someone in another channel :P05:28
NickPrestakloplop, type in "man apt-get" and "man aptitude" for ways of installing via CLI05:30
Dr_willis!java05:31
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:31
Dr_willissudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre05:31
Dr_willisis what i normally use05:31
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MinatakuDr_willis: Well, whenever you're ready to send something out, ask me for the address to send to05:32
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MinatakuOr get it now, write it down and lose it like I would05:32
MinatakuXD05:32
Dr_willisMinataku,  sure PM it to me. i will save it to a File.05:32
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DaSkreechpm | echo > File05:33
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MinatakuThey need to make that air pocket packing material, but fill it with helium05:35
MinatakuI wonder if that would work05:35
MinatakuXD05:35
MinatakuMaybe shave a gram or two off the package weight X305:35
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hitmanWillyMinataku, plus if the delivery guy was talking with a really high pitched voice, you'd know if he opened it :)05:36
MinatakuHeehee05:36
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MinatakuIf it was UPS it wouldn't matter, it'd still be smashed05:36
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sebastianhookerwhats up yall?05:45
sebastianhookerwow, for IRC, no one talks on kubuntu05:45
MinatakuWay to wait 25 seconds before saying nobody was around05:49
MinatakuSorry, that was mean05:49
MinatakuI just hate when people do that05:49
sebastianhookerlol05:50
sebastianhookersorry05:50
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MinatakuAt least you didn't quit XD05:50
sebastianhookerbut seriously, look how many people are here05:50
sebastianhookerand not talkng...05:50
MinatakuUsually they'll come in, wait literally 10 seconds then say "I'll come back when someone is alive"05:50
MinatakuXD05:50
MinatakuIt's just a lull05:50
sebastianhookerah05:50
sebastianhookerso how do u guys like ubuntu?05:50
sebastianhooker(need a topic)05:50
hitmanWillynormally this is one of the busier channels05:50
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sebastianhookerthat's how i thought it would b05:50
sebastianhookere05:50
sebastianhookerso i came here XD05:51
MinatakuHeehee05:51
MinatakuI don't even use Ubuntu05:51
sebastianhookerhahaha05:51
sebastianhookerwhat r u using?05:51
MinatakuI use Gentoo on modern systems and Debian on legacy systems05:51
sebastianhookerwindows hahaha05:51
sebastianhookeri used to use redhat05:52
sebastianhookeranyone been to bash.org?05:52
MinatakuMany times05:52
sebastianhooker.yeah05:52
sebastianhookeri came here thinking it would be amazing like that05:52
sebastianhookerturns out all we talk about is linux05:52
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sebastianhookernot girls and quotes, just ubuntu and debian05:52
sebastianhookerD:05:52
DaSkreech!O-t05:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about o-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:53
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DaSkreech;-)05:53
sebastianhooker;-)05:53
sebastianhookerlol05:53
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sebastianhookerso, uh, yeah, how old are y'all?05:53
hitmanWillywow, on a linux channel we talk about...linux05:53
sebastianhookerwhy the nipple?05:53
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sebastianhookerhitmanWilly, who let you talk?05:53
Minatakusebastianhooker: I felt the kidney would have been too predictable05:53
hitmanWillythe ops apparently...05:54
sebastianhookerhm05:54
DaSkreechPlus I sold those05:54
MinatakuPlus I don't want to injure him05:54
sebastianhookerwell at least now i know y'all are under 2005:54
MinatakuI'm 2205:54
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sebastianhookerwell shit.05:54
hitmanWilly2505:54
Minataku!language05:54
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:54
sebastianhookerwell then05:54
sebastianhookeri'm sorry..05:54
Minatakus'ok05:54
sebastianhookerdid you know helicopters are souls of fallen tanks?05:55
sebastianhooker(bash.org)05:55
Minataku<.<05:55
Dodger73yello... anyone know how to get a pci-express ati card to run?05:55
sebastianhookeruh05:55
Dodger73yeah i know, loaded question05:55
sebastianhookernot to run05:55
MinatakuDodger73: Add legs05:55
DaSkreechplus shinobi for the PS205:55
sebastianhookeri can get the fan to turn on05:55
hitmanWilly!ati05:55
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:55
DaSkreechDodger73: start with mornign jogs and work up from there05:55
sebastianhookerhey, uhh, geeky question here05:56
MinatakuPCIe and ATI... what a bastardy combinatio05:56
sebastianhookercan i get WoW on ubuntu?05:56
Minatakun05:56
DaSkreech!wow | sebastianhooker05:56
ubotusebastianhooker: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org05:56
Dr_willisive herad that WoW can run with Cedega and Wine.05:56
hitmanWillysebastianhooker, yeah, runs pretty well under wine/cedega from what i understand05:56
sebastianhookeryeah, but how do i get Wine to install?05:56
Dr_willis!wine05:57
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:57
Dr_willis>hic<05:57
sebastianhookeri can't stand "shell commands" i live far from the ocean05:57
hitmanWillysebastianhooker, apt-get install wine05:57
sebastianhookeri'll install wine05:57
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sebastianhookerdo you have wow hitman?05:57
Dr_willis:)05:57
sebastianhooker:D05:57
sebastianhooker*gets out his shotgun to shoot a prarie-dog pummler with05:57
hitmanWillysebastianhooker, nope05:57
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DaSkreechsebastianhooker: get more wine and you won't care (or know) where you are05:58
sebastianhookercould anyone link me to a wine download site?05:58
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sebastianhookerDaSkreech: wine takes too long, hard liquor por favor05:58
hitmanWillysebastianhooker, its in the ubuntu repos, you just need to use the package manager to get it05:59
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sebastianhookeraight05:59
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sebastianhookerhey06:01
sebastianhookeruhh06:01
sebastianhookerpassword is needed on terminal06:01
sebastianhookerfor a wine download06:01
DaSkreechit's your password06:01
sebastianhookerany ideas?06:01
sebastianhookerok06:01
DaSkreechthe oneyou used to login06:01
sebastianhookerit said OK06:01
DaSkreechIt's lying to you06:02
DaSkreechslap it around a bit06:02
Jucatoanyone familiar with Bluetooth DUN? kinda need help getting IRC to work :(06:02
JucatoTm_T: help!!!!! :(06:02
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CPrgmSwR2How do I configure apt-get to include all repositories06:05
NickPrestaCPrgmSwR2, I'm not sure I understand your question. Can you explain a little more, please?06:06
MinatakuJucato... ASKING for help instead of rendering it :O06:06
DaSkreechJucato: what DUN?06:06
DaSkreech you are using a cellphone for a modem?06:06
MinatakuHath hell frozen over? :O06:06
MinatakuXD06:06
jarnIs there any way to set up shortcuts for things that are not in KMenu?06:06
DaSkreechMinataku: I'll remember to laugh at you as well :)06:06
Jucatoyes I know.. how so unlikely of me :(06:07
MinatakuHaha06:07
JucatoDaSkreech: yes. Dial Up Networking06:07
NickPrestajarn, right click on a menu entry and click on "Edit Menu", then add entries.06:07
MinatakuI'm just playin' and he knows it06:07
jarnNickPresta: So, essentially, no.06:07
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DaSkreechJucato: is it paired?06:07
MinatakuWe all need help now and again :306:07
JucatoDaSkreech: everything is working *except* IRC :(06:07
albertohey06:07
albertoq tal?06:07
NickPrestajarn, yes, you can setup "shortcuts". What exactly did you want to accomplish?06:07
Jucatojust apt-get'ed irssi in fact :)06:07
CPrgmSwR2I just got through installing kubuntu form the cd06:07
albertoalguien sabe como es el servidor hispaon?06:07
DaSkreech!es | alberto06:07
ubotualberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:07
CPrgmSwR2but there is a lot of packages missing for apt-get06:07
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DaSkreech!repos | CPrgmSwR206:08
ubotuCPrgmSwR2: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:08
JucatoCPrgmSwR2: you need to enable some of there other repositories06:08
NickPrestaCPrgmSwR2, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories06:08
jarnNickPresta: I said I want to do it for things that aren't in the menu. You told me that to do it I needed to add it to the menu. Isn't that a no?06:08
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DaSkreechjarn: what are you asking?06:09
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NickPrestajarn, yes you can add things which are not currently present in KMenu. You need to manually add them.06:09
CPrgmSwR2I can't seem to add repositories06:09
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jarnNickPresta: But I don't want to add them to the menu. I want to set up shortcuts for things that aren't in the menu and that I don't want to be in the menu.06:09
sebastianhookeri'm installing wine all by myself :D06:09
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DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: What do you mean?06:09
CPrgmSwR2I have no option to manage apt-get06:09
DaSkreechjarn: yes you can06:10
NickPrestajarn: Ah, you should've said you don't want them in the menu (but want something like desktop shortcuts). Yes you can06:10
CPrgmSwR2Adept -> Manage Repositories06:10
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: press alt+space -> adept -> Enter06:10
CPrgmSwR2I don't have this option in the menu06:10
MinatakuJucato: Sorry, you know I'm just playing around, right? :306:10
NickPrestajarn, right click on your desktop and then go to New > Add Link to Application.06:10
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: and close that adept06:10
JucatoMinataku: yep :P06:10
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Minatakuk ^^06:10
Dr_willisCPrgmSwR2,  did it ask for your sudo password when it started?06:10
CPrgmSwR2yes06:11
jarnNickPresta: Hrm, I should have been more clear. I meant hotkey shortcuts.06:11
CPrgmSwR2thats different06:11
MinatakuWouldn't using a cellphone for DUN be insanely expensive?06:11
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jarnNickPresta: As in pressing a combination of buttons and a program opens. Sorry about that. :/06:11
sebastianhookerhey uhh where does wine come up after you install it?06:11
JucatoMinataku: not much difference as going to a cyber cafe over here. besides I'm desperate :)06:11
albertohola alguienm dice cual es 3l servidor delcanal corua?06:11
albertopor ejempl irc ispano?06:12
MinatakuJucato: Heehee06:12
Jucatono wireless on this thing (broken), and leaving in a couple of hours06:12
soulrider!es  alberto06:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about es  alberto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:12
soulrider!es | alberto06:12
ubotualberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:12
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soulriderjucato, i finally find you here!06:12
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sebastianhookerSo where does wine come up after i install it?06:12
albertosuldiers06:12
Jucatohi soulrider06:12
soulrideri sa win your blog you had some trouble with recursion, i can explain a bit if you want06:12
albertotu lo conoces?06:12
DaSkreech!es | alberto06:13
ubotualberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:13
Minatakualberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:13
soulrideralberto: para espa~nol entra a #kubuntu-es y a #ubuntu-es06:13
MinatakuJIC he has the bot ignored or something06:13
NickPrestajarn, Oh! Yes, you should've been more clear :P In KControl (or System Settings), you should navigate to Accessibility > Input Actions. There you can create custom actions that do tons of stuff06:14
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ShiftedBeefsebastian, not sure, but you can use wine on something by right clicking on it if it doesn't automatically, and you can also run winecfg if you want to config it.06:14
Jucatohmph brb. :)06:14
MinatakuBienvenidos a Homestarrunner.com! Conoces a Miguel? Si, somos buenos amigos... <offscreen: "English!>06:14
MinatakuXD06:14
MinatakuAck, unterminated quotes06:14
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jarnNickPresta: Yeah, I'm sorry about that.06:14
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DaSkreechMinataku: ummm No! What?06:15
rodrigohey daskreech06:15
NickPrestajarn, no problem. Shortcuts can mean many things so it was bound to be misunderstood by someone, I suppose.06:15
sebastianhookerWHY DIDNT WINE INSTALL?06:15
rodrigowhat's up!06:15
MinatakuDaSkreech: Heehee, quote from HSR06:15
soulridersebastianhooker: its installed06:15
Minatakusebastianhooker: Type "wine" into a console06:15
CPrgmSwR2This is fun06:15
sebastianhookerok06:15
soulriderjust type wine <path to an exe file>06:15
DaSkreechrodrigo: hello :)06:15
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rodrigoDaskreech06:15
MinatakuIt's a wrapper system06:15
DaSkreechMinataku: Do you have the DNA evidence ?06:16
MinatakuNot a standalone program06:16
DaSkreechrodrigo06:16
sebastianhookerohhh06:16
rodrigo<DaSkreech haha06:16
sebastianhookerduh06:16
sebastianhookerTHANKS!06:16
MinatakuDaSkreech: Didn't you hear? That was solved. :D06:16
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Minatakusebastianhooker: np06:16
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Minataku!caps06:16
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.06:16
sebastianhookeri owe someone06:16
sebastianhookerhey minataku, i o u06:16
Minatakusebastianhooker: You owe ME.06:16
rodrigoIm thinking very serous pasting an esay about linux06:16
MinatakuThe price: Nothing.06:16
MinatakuEnjoy.06:16
rodrigolinux for beginers06:16
Minataku^^06:16
DaSkreechMinataku: what> I missed that! When?06:16
ShiftedBeefWhat I said should have worked, but oh well.06:16
MinatakuDaSkreech: It was a toon06:16
rodrigoI studies journalism06:16
rodrigoso this may help to Linux community06:17
DaSkreechrodrigo: that would be wonderful06:17
MinatakuThey wrapped up the whole "DNA Evidence" thing06:17
jarnNickPresta: I was in Keyboard Shortcuts rather than Input Actions, and from Keyboard Shortcuts it appears that you can only set up shortcuts for things in KMenu.06:17
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albertoalguien m dice cual es el servidor hispano?06:17
sebastianhookeroh snap i love you guys06:17
sebastianhookerso much06:17
MinatakuGo to the Toons page06:17
DaSkreechMinataku: link@!06:17
Minatakualberto: #kubuntu-es06:17
ShiftedBeefAwwww. :)06:17
Minataku!es | alberto06:17
ubotualberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:17
rodrigoDaskreech: do you feel in the mood of trying to install again cinellera?06:17
Minataku!pr | alberto06:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:17
MinatakuEr06:17
Minataku!br | alberto06:17
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ubotualberto: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.06:17
MinatakuIn case he needs Portugeuese06:17
NickPrestajarn, Yes, in Keyboard Shortcuts, you can only setup hotkeys for specific things. In Input Actions, you can do it for anything (applications, keyboard functions, etc)06:17
rodrigodaskrecch: we make a lot of work yesterday06:17
DaSkreechrodrigo: we didn't do it the last time?06:17
DaSkreechopen adept and install cinelerra06:18
DaSkreechI think that should work06:18
rodrigodaskreech ok let me try it06:18
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jarnNickPresta: Hrm, I can't get it to work, though. I did "New Action", set "Action Type" to "Keyboard Shortcut -> Command/URL (simple)", set the Keyboard Shortcut to "Win + E" and set the command to "/usr/bin/konqueror /home/jarn" and clicked "Apple". However, when I press those keys, nothing happens. :(06:18
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rodrigodaskreech: ok Im in adept manager I'll paste the program name (cinellera)06:19
DaSkreechin the search06:19
Minatakuwb, Jucato06:19
DaSkreechHa ha :-)06:20
sebastianhookeralright, next question06:20
DaSkreech I just won the 10 Million dollar lotto for buying MS office06:20
sebastianhookerhow can i install my graphics card driver?06:20
ShiftedBeefYeah no results here either.06:20
Minataku!drivers06:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:20
Minataku!ati06:20
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:20
MinatakuThere ya go06:20
DaSkreechand the last MS office I bought didn't even have years in the title06:20
ShiftedBeefOdd that it isn't installed already.06:20
rodrigoDaskreech: sorry firend it doesn't appear on the menu06:20
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soulriderDaSkreech: lol06:21
NickPrestajarn, I just did what you wanted (control+alt+H brings me to my /home) by selecting the action type of Keyboard Shortcut -> Command/URL (simple) and the action to be "konqueror ~/"06:21
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DaSkreechShiftedBeef: what isn't?06:21
DaSkreechrodrigo: press Fetch updates06:21
ShiftedBeefVid card drivers.06:21
soulriderDaSkreech: i didnt know the staandard one costed $400 its friggin insane06:21
NickPrestajarn, make sure you Apply the new action before you try it06:21
ShiftedBeefMine are preinstalled.06:21
soulriderjust for excel word powerpoint and outlook06:21
sebastianhookeryeah i think it's nvidia06:21
MinatakuI use OpenOffice.org06:21
DaSkreechShiftedBeef: they aren't free06:21
soulriderits just retarded!06:21
MinatakuBecause it's better and cheaper.06:21
ShiftedBeefOk you lost me.06:22
rodrigodaskreech done it and nothing06:22
DaSkreechMinataku: I'd love to see you back up the better :006:22
jarnNickPresta: I clicked "Apply". I changed it to "konqueror ~/" and it still doesn't work... I'll try ctrl+alt+h, maybe it doesn06:22
DaSkreechunless you are a journalist06:22
jarnNickPresta: doesn't like the Windows eky.06:22
ShiftedBeefI have full functionality of my vid card.06:22
DaSkreechthen it should be better06:22
DaSkreech rodrigo can you pastebin the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list06:22
NickPrestajarn, do you have Beryl or Compiz installed?06:23
jarnNickPresta: Nope.06:23
ShiftedBeefIf my vid card drivers aren't free, well I lost functionality of something I suppose.06:23
jarnNickPresta: Hrm, and that didn't work either, even when I set it to the same things you had.06:23
rodrigopastebin?? file/ryv/apt/sources .list?06:23
jarnNickPresta: Just nothing happens for me. :(06:23
NickPrestajarn, okay, because Win+H makes the window expand to full width. Just making sure. Let me switch to KWin and see what happens06:23
DaSkreech!paste | rodrigo06:23
uboturodrigo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:23
rodrigodaskreech Im just beginning to speak linux06:23
DaSkreechrodrigo: and it's /etc/apt/sources.list06:24
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jarnNickPresta: Okay. Thanks for helping me with this. :)06:24
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rodrigodaskreech ok let me take a look06:25
NickPrestajarn, I just tried it in KWin and Win+H works (brings up Konqueror at ~/).06:25
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NickPrestajarn, could it be possible that you have this action disabled (on the General tab)?06:25
jarnNickPresta: That was the first thing I checked and it's not disabled.06:25
jarnNickPresta: That is to say, the Disable box is unchecked.06:26
rodrigook daskreech I got the pastebin thing but not too much the last thing  /etc/apt/sources.list is a command?06:26
DaSkreechrodrigo: it's a file06:26
NickPrestajarn, where did you create this action? Is it possible that the group you created it in is disabled?06:26
DaSkreechrodrigo: you can open it in any editor06:27
jarnNickPresta: I didn't put it in a group. I also checked the Global settings to make sure everything wasn't disabled there.06:27
sebastianhookerbrb06:27
sebastianhookergotta restart06:27
DaSkreechrodrigo: alt+F2 -> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:27
rodrigoso I paste it in the pastebin?06:27
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rodrigodaskreech wow It open the soruces.list06:28
rodrigodo you want me to copy it in pastebin?06:29
DaSkreechYes :)06:29
Billiardhey if i install something from source, how would i ever uninstall it?06:29
rodrigoall of it?06:29
NickPrestajarn, I just put the action outside of a group (no group) and tried it. It still works for me.06:29
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soulriderBilliard: you gotta make a deb package06:29
RyielUbuntu is a great distro. Even the dev snapshout pre alpha release is stable enough as long as you don't try to do something with it :D06:29
rodrigodone06:29
ShiftedBeefAllright, can anyone point me somewhere where I can get help running wine on 64 bit Kubuntu 7.04?06:29
DaSkreechrodrigo: yes pleease06:29
Billiardsoulrider alright06:29
ShiftedBeefSorry WoW on Wine.06:29
rodrigodaskreech: done, should I push paste?06:29
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ShiftedBeefThe rest was correct. :)06:30
Billiardsoulrider what should i use to make a deb06:30
willy-boyhello all06:30
jarnNickPresta: Hrm... want me to upload screenshots? Maybe I'm missing something obvious.06:30
rodrigodaskreech: what should y select in the sintax box?06:30
DaSkreechrodrigo: yes and paste teh URL that you get here06:30
jarnNickPresta: Then I can show you how I have it set up.06:30
willy-boymy kubuntu cds has arrived06:30
DaSkreechrodrigo: leave that alone06:31
soulriderBilliard: install build-essential and checkinstall06:31
DaSkreechwilly-boy: Yay!06:31
soulriderbasically you do ./configure06:31
soulridermake06:31
soulriderand then checkinstall06:31
soulrider!compiling06:31
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:31
NickPrestajarn, sure. You may want to whisper me though to send all of them. :)06:31
ShiftedBeefAllright, can anyone point me somewhere where I can get help running WoW on Wine on 64 bit Kubuntu 7.04? There, that is the correct question.06:31
rodrigodaskreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24945/06:31
jarnNickPresta: Will do.06:31
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willy-boyhau daskreech06:31
timdneed some help...06:31
willy-boyi'm installed now06:31
timdNo plugin found to handle this resource (dvd:///dev/hdc)06:32
willy-boyinstalling ...06:32
rodrigodaskreech: by the way: you work for kubuntu or this is voluntary or how does this work06:32
timdi JUST installed kubuntu FF06:32
ShiftedBeefI got the Wine part done. Got Diablo 2 working. Cinch.06:32
rodrigoany way is great having help here!06:32
DaSkreechrodrigo: We bill you at the end of the month06:32
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rodrigoouh"06:32
rodrigo!06:32
jarnNickPresta: Hrm... I think something more is going on.06:32
rodrigoI can pay you with draws"06:32
sebastianhooker_miss me?06:33
rodrigo!06:33
sstchur_how do I install themes in kubuntu?  I can't find the option like there is with a traditional kde install06:33
rodrigoIm having a look of blender06:33
jarnNickPresta: For some reason the PrtScrn hotkey isn't working either.06:33
rodrigonise program06:33
DaSkreech!dvd | timd06:33
ubotutimd: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs06:33
willy-boyrodrigo ...  work on ubuntu ?06:33
rodrigobut still, I believe the programs in linux are very unfriendly06:33
jarnNickPresta: And I didn't set that up and I know it worked earlier today.06:33
NickPrestajarn, do you have the hotkey daemon disabled or shut down?06:33
timdty06:33
jarnNickPresta: I don't, I checked when I noticed that.06:33
jarnNickPresta: Should I try restarting it?06:33
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rodrigobut you can't get too exigent with free stuf lol06:34
DaSkreechHmm06:34
DaSkreechMinataku: moment of your time06:34
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MinatakuWhat's up?06:34
sebastianhooker_i love the ubuntu philosophy06:34
DaSkreechcan You check if you have cinelerra in your packages ?06:34
MinatakuSure06:34
rodrigothanks minataku06:34
rodrigodon't have the pleasure06:34
rodrigobut thanks06:35
MinatakuYes06:35
Dr_willis$ apt-cache search cinelerra06:35
Dr_willisxmovie - a nice video player for uncompressed Quicktime, MPEG streams and more06:35
jarnNickPresta: I killed khotkeys and started it up again and PrtScrn still doesn't work.06:35
Dr_willisheh odd06:35
Minatakumedia-video/cinelerra-cvs06:35
Dr_willis!find  cinelerra06:35
DaSkreechMinataku: did you add that yourself?06:35
ubotuPackage/file cinelerra does not exist in feisty06:35
MinatakuLabelled as "Unofficial CVS version"06:35
MinatakuDaSkreech: No06:35
MinatakuPortage allows for CVS packages :306:35
DaSkreechMinataku: right on gentoo :-P06:36
jarnNickPresta: I may just try rebooting when the CD that I'm burning finishes.06:36
MinatakuIt seems to be a snapshotted version, though06:36
rodrigook  now this is linux talking06:36
DaSkreechDr_willis: So no?06:36
MinatakuSince the version isn't 999906:36
jarnNickPresta: Because I /know/ prtscrn worked earlier today.06:36
NickPrestajarn, Hmm. I dont know what to tell you aside from rebooting. Perhaps a google search (something like "hotkeys stopped working ubuntu") will yield some results.06:36
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jarnNickPresta: Thanks, I'll do that.06:36
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  not in the repos it seems06:36
MinatakuTypically a download-from-cvs package in Gentoo will have the version "9999"06:36
jpmaidenhola tengo una duda co kubuntu06:36
MinatakuThis one has a date, "20070122"06:36
DaSkreechDr_willis: can you add this repo deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/feisty/cinelerra/athlonxp/ ./06:36
rodrigohola mano06:36
jpmaidenhaycalguien q hble espaol06:36
Dr_willisCineralla i hear  is a rather Odd   program. ;06:37
rodrigoel que habla espaol06:37
Minataku!es | jpmaiden06:37
ubotujpmaiden: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:37
DaSkreechDr_willis: see if it gets added after you add that06:37
mark_I'm interested in installing kde 3.5.6 for my edgy installation.  I have the repository entry but I need the key... any takes?06:37
mark_~kde06:37
mark_!kde06:37
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.06:37
DaSkreechDr_willis: very but someone has a repo for it06:37
MinatakuYou could also just compile it from source06:37
DaSkreechmark_: where did you get the rep?06:37
DaSkreechrepo?06:37
DaSkreechMinataku: really trying to avoid that06:38
Dr_willisapt-cache search cinelerra   cinelerra - An audio/video authoring tool06:38
Dr_willis:)06:38
mark_DaSkreech: don't recall.. had from an earlier installation and wound up having to reinstall.  Have the repo but not the key06:38
rodrigoguys any one of you can tell me how to check the chanels?06:38
MinatakuDaSkreech: Why?06:38
rodrigohat irc?06:38
jarnNickPresta: The first two pages have nothing about it and I would expect the responses to get even less helpful from there, so that would appear to be a no go.06:38
DaSkreechDr_willis: so it worked?06:38
rodrigohere at Irc?06:38
DaSkreechrodrigo: Check for what?06:38
sebastianhooker_wow, WoW is actually not too easy to install06:38
Dr_willisinstalliong now.. 33mb06:38
sebastianhooker_it keeps messing up :(06:38
rodrigoone guy enter of ubutu es06:38
rodrigoit means ubuntu in spanish06:38
DaSkreechrodrigo: yes06:39
Minatakuubuntu-es06:39
MinatakuThe names stay the same06:39
rodrigois there any wey you can check all the chanels?06:39
mark_sebastianhooker_: I disagree... with wine wow is a snap06:39
MinatakuThe distro name doesn't translate between languages06:39
DaSkreechrodrigo: type /list06:39
rodrigook let me try it06:39
rodrigoIm right here for the cinellera thing06:39
rodrigoand thanks for your support guys06:39
rodrigorodrigo: type /list06:40
NickPrestajarn, you're right. You might want to try restarting X before you reboot. If that doesn't work, then reboot. If that still doesnt fix anything, I would file a bug report or wait for someone more knowledgeable to come along and help :P06:40
Minataku"/list" alone hasn't quite worked right in my experience for at least a year or two06:40
CPrgmSwR2What is also amazing is how fast kubuntu is06:40
DaSkreechrodrigo: can you hit fetch updates again and search for lerra06:40
jarnNickPresta: Okay, thanks for all your help. :)06:40
sebastianhooker_mark_: why do i keep getting errors?06:40
NickPrestajarn, no problem. I hope you find a fix.06:40
DaSkreechMinataku: Which client06:40
timdMaybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)06:40
jarnNickPresta: Me too - I couldn't live without my hotkeys! (/me is a serial optimizer.)06:41
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: We are sorry we are trying to fix that06:41
mark_sebastianhooker_: I suppose it was depend upon the errors you are getting as to why.  I've been running WoW with wine since 0.9.23...06:41
sebastianhooker_how do i make my font show up red?06:41
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: it'll soon be as fast as vista we promise!06:41
CPrgmSwR2Oh Darn06:41
mark_DaSkreech: so, no clue where i can find the kde repo key?06:41
DaSkreechtimd: try installing vlc06:41
sebastianhooker_mark_: oh snap! that's a long time! but i'll tell you the error if another show's06:41
sebastianhooker_VLC?06:41
CPrgmSwR2Mabye I will just have to buy Vista after all06:41
mark_sebastianhooker_: ok06:42
DaSkreechmark_: did you answer my question ?06:42
sebastianhooker_i'm not going to lie, i pirated vista06:42
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: ha ha :)06:42
rodrigoin which menu should it appears on the multimedia or in wich one?06:42
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: You can actually tune it to be faster06:42
jarnsebastianhooker_: Uh oh! I'm going to tell daddy Gates on you!06:42
jarnNickPresta: Okay, I'll restart X now.06:42
rodrigodaskreech:  in which menu should it appears on the multimedia or in wich one?06:42
MinatakuDaSkreech: XChat06:42
mark_DaSkreech: if your question was "where did I get the repo?" then yes.  I told you that I had it from an earlier install but did not save the key, and therefore have the path from my saved sources.list but no key06:42
timdDaSkreech: it might be easier...i just installed kubuntu like 10 mins ago and haven't use it before so maybe i need to chown the dvdrom?06:43
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timdnot sure though06:43
sebastianhooker_jarn: uh oh! i'm going to tell him he's so rich the $300 he coulda had he could shove up his anal sphinkter06:43
DaSkreechrodrigo: Hmm?06:43
NickPrestajarn, okay, good luck06:43
CPrgmSwR2Why did I waste my time with gentoo06:43
DaSkreechrodrigo: in adept?06:43
sebastianhooker_how do i become a registered user?06:43
DaSkreechmark_: look at the kubuntu.org webpage all the instructions (and keys) are there06:43
DaSkreech!register | sebastianhooker_06:43
ubotusebastianhooker_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:43
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rodrigoIn adept?06:44
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rodrigodaskreech: well I'm using adept manager, shall I try with adept installer?06:44
DaSkreechrodrigo: wait this wasn't in adept? :)06:44
DaSkreechno no06:44
DaSkreechyou searched for lerra ?06:44
rodrigoin adept manager nop06:44
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  cinerella worked. Gave some  warning at the start..  but it ran.. well for the 2 min i played withit.06:45
rodrigoI mean jes06:45
rodrigoyes06:45
rodrigodouh!06:45
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DaSkreechand it's not there?06:45
rodrigoI push fetch updates06:45
rodrigolet me try it again06:45
mark_DaSkreech: I'm sorry, I guess with a simple handle like mine it must be assumed I'm simple minded.  You see, I've been on the kubuntu.org site.  I've searched and found nothing specific to 3.5.6.  This is why I am asking here...06:45
rodrigoI'm using the word cinellera06:45
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rodrigoworld06:45
DaSkreechrodrigo: I thought so that's why I told you to use lerra :)06:46
timdhow can i tell which dev is my dvdrom?06:46
jarnNickPresta: Wootness! After restarting X both prtscrn and my custom hotkey work!06:46
jarnNickPresta: Thanks a lot! :)06:46
rodrigooooooooohhhhhhh06:46
rodrigoso just lerra?06:46
NickPrestajarn, No problem. Now enjoy your new found hotkey freedom :P06:46
rodrigook let me try06:46
yurimxpxmanwhat functions should I use to read/write files with ncurses? The stdio functions won't work with it.06:46
timdError reading NAV packet06:47
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DaSkreechtimd: normally it's /dev/dvd06:47
rodrigodaskreech: rodrigo making  hommer simpsons's douh! here06:47
rodrigoa ortographic problem06:47
rodrigoI paste the name correctly06:47
DaSkreech:-)06:48
rodrigonow it works!! :-)06:48
sebastianhooker_wow, some kid just asked me if it was gross to wank of to his own sister, what a fuck up06:48
sebastianhooker_sorry about that language06:48
rodrigowell at least a los of things appear in the package06:48
rodrigoblock06:48
DaSkreech!language | sebastianhooker_06:48
ubotusebastianhooker_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:48
rodrigodaskreech all says uninstalled06:48
rodrigodaskreech what shall I must do now?06:49
DaSkreechrodrigo: look in your multimedia folder on the menu06:49
rodrigorequest install?06:49
jarnNickPresta: Oh, I will. No doubt about it. >:)06:49
DaSkreechyes06:49
rodrigook now in the multimedia is not there06:49
rodrigobut i will install it now!!06:49
DaSkreechrodrigo: I thought you had installed it already :)06:50
DaSkreech33 megs though06:50
timdthis is frustrating06:50
DaSkreechtimd: You are trying to watch a DVD ?06:50
timdyes06:51
rodrigonope06:51
rodrigodaskreech06:51
rodrigoI'm in that06:51
rodrigohey pal thanks06:51
rodrigofor your help06:51
DaSkreechtimd: try and isntall VLC06:51
timdi did06:51
DaSkreechthat's the pain free way06:51
rodrigoIf you need a video edition06:51
DaSkreech!vlc06:51
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs06:51
timdi have vlc06:51
DaSkreechtimd: it doesn't work?06:51
rodrigodaskreech I will be happy do it for you06:51
rodrigoin my brand new cindelerra06:52
rodrigoprogram06:52
timdit flashes like it's going to play and then does nothing06:52
DaSkreechrodrigo:  :-)06:52
rodrigoand I also have problem with arodur06:52
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rodrigoanother pain in the neck for the new linuxer06:53
sebastianhooker_linux is a gift from the gods06:53
rodrigoI have ardour installed now06:53
timdDaSkreech: it flashes like it's going to play and then does nothing06:53
rodrigobut it doesn't work for a Jack thing!06:53
DaSkreechtimd: hmm i think it has a play DVD choice in the menu06:53
DaSkreechtry that06:53
DaSkreechAnyone got DVDs to work?06:54
rodrigodaskreech: I have a doubt06:54
rodrigoany linux program work in different distributions?06:54
rodrigoI saw cool stuff for gnome06:54
DaSkreechrodrigo: that's the idea06:54
rodrigobut obviously I have kubuntu06:54
DaSkreechand gnome isn't a distrobution06:54
DaSkreechit's a desktop06:54
rodrigooooooohhh06:55
sebastianhooker_lolol06:55
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rodrigowell any way it will work with my kubuntu06:55
rodrigo?06:55
NickPrestarodrigo, most, if not all, applications can be used on different distributions. For example, XChat on Kubuntu (using KDE) would work on Fedora (using KDE), etc.06:55
rodrigothe gnome programs?06:55
ardchoille!dvd06:55
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs06:55
DaSkreechmark_: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php06:55
rodrigoso what's the idea of so many distributions?06:56
ardchoillerodrigo: Freedom of choice :)06:56
rodrigook06:56
rodrigoit's like the same guy but with different cloths?06:56
DaSkreechrodrigo: each Should be focused on something different06:56
sebastianhooker_has anyone seen borat?06:56
rodrigommmm06:56
rodrigowich one is the best for media artist?06:57
timdyea it starts to read the DVD then just stops06:57
sebastianhooker_is it supposed to b pixalated in the beggining?06:57
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DaSkreechrodrigo: probably either ubuntustudio or ... shoot there was nother one hold on06:57
analfabetahi! i do a update in my kubuntu, but not apear kde 3.5.7... what happining?06:58
jack-a) get a dictionary or 2, b) read the topic06:59
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Billiardsebastianhooker_ no?06:59
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ardchoilleanalfabeta: Once a version of kubuntu is released, you won't get new software in the repos. The only updates are bug fixes and security updates. Occasionally, third-party repos will have newer software, but the "official" repos won't.07:00
intelikeyanyone "think" they know of a way for normal users to mount things without suid ?07:00
DaSkreech!kde07:00
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.07:00
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timdanyone able to watch a DVD?07:00
DaSkreechanalfabeta: look at kubuntu.org07:00
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intelikey!dvd | timd07:01
ubotutimd: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs07:01
rodrigodaskreech: I push instal but I don't see any info about the uploading07:01
rodrigois this ok?07:01
rodrigohow can I check that with adapt manager?07:01
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DaSkreechintelikey: I think that doesn't work. VLC doesn't work07:01
rodrigodaskreech and why do you think cinellera doesn't appear in adapt installer?07:01
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DaSkreechrodrigo: the apply changes ?07:02
S4L2Hello - I have been having some badass overheating problems with my laptop, what can I do for it without having to sacrifice half of my processing capabilities? And yes, I have a dual fan pad07:02
khirrFeisty Online (;)07:02
MinatakuS4L2: The fan pad may be the issue07:02
rodrigodaskreech the status says not installed07:02
MinatakuTell me the cooling system of the laptop07:02
MinatakuMine here has a large fan on the bottom that sucks air in07:02
rodrigobut in requeste says install in green letters07:02
intelikeyDaSkreech "TCG"  ?07:02
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MinatakuIf I use a fan pad, it starves the cooling system for air and the laptop heats up07:03
DaSkreechrodrigo: is there a check mark button at the top? click it07:03
DaSkreechintelikey: tcg ?07:03
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S4L2Minataku: mine has a small fan on bottom that sucks air in... my fan pad does go in the right direction, if that's what you're thinking - it blows up, not down07:03
intelikeytrusted computing group    M$ poison for the pc07:03
MinatakuS4L2: Turn the pad off and watch the temperature anyway07:03
intelikeyfritz chips and all that rah07:04
MinatakuJust to check that it's not still causing an issue07:04
hitmanWillyintelikey, apparently, v-chips aren't only for tvs anymore...07:04
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MinatakuSupplemental cooling on modern laptops tends to be an iffy area07:04
DaSkreechintelikey: how does that come in?07:04
intelikeyhitmanWilly they "never were"07:05
hitmanWillyyeah...07:05
MinatakuUsually they're designed to specific, exacting specifications and any help could end up being a hinderance, no matter how well meaning07:05
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khirrwhat is the last kernel for kubuntu?07:05
MinatakuAs for the temperature, what exactly does it idle at?07:05
rodrigodaskreech:  ok I push aplly changes07:05
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rodrigoand it's working now07:06
Minataku!info kernel07:06
ubotuPackage kernel does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:06
hitmanWillykhirr, 2.6.20-16 IIRC07:06
rodrigowow this is great at last!07:06
khirris stable?07:06
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hitmanWillykhirr, yeah, pretty much...07:06
DaSkreechkhirr: that's the idea07:06
MinatakuYour mileage may vary07:06
khirruhmm, what should i put in konsole (i'm noobie :D)07:06
DaSkreechuname -a07:07
S4L2Minataku: I just toggled it a few times while doing some resource intensive stuff, it certainly appears to be "cooling" it rather than starving it for air07:07
MinatakuS4L2: Check that the laptop's fan is working07:08
S4L2it is07:08
MinatakuHm07:08
MinatakuWhat CPU?07:08
MinatakuI'm guessing Intel Prescott07:08
S4L2Sysinfo for 'redphoenix': Linux 2.6.20-16-386 running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)Mprocessor1.73GHz at 1729 MHz (3469 bogomips), , RAM: 947/995MB, 140 proc's, 12.3min up07:08
MinatakuDefinitely not a Prescott07:09
MinatakuOr is it?07:09
khirr2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux07:09
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MinatakuNope07:09
MinatakuPrescott is a P4 core, not a PM07:09
DaSkreechTimd: What DVD ?07:09
khirris that good?07:09
MinatakuS4L2: I'd help you more, but I have to run to the bathroom on emergency terms07:10
MinatakuSorry >.<07:10
timdLOL does that make a differce? :)07:10
S4L2lol07:10
timdTenacious D in the pick of destiny07:10
S4L2anyone else have any ideas?07:10
DaSkreechtimd: no clue I've never watched a DVD07:10
khirrhow can i update my kernel?07:10
DaSkreechbut I guess one that you made at home would be different from a store bought one07:11
S4L2I've been using the Power Manager to cut my processing power in half when it gets hot just short of the point that it would shut down07:11
hitmanWillykhirr, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:11
khirrthanks :D07:11
hitmanWillykhirr, that will update your whole system07:11
DaSkreechkhirr: Why do you need a new one?07:11
khirrif i put somedrivers in my actual kernel, and then i update it, will dun them?07:11
khirruhmm, for drivers?07:12
timdFailed to find mountpoint for /dev/hdc     guess new errors mean it's making progress LOL07:12
sebastianhooker_khirr: i love noobies hahaha, you'll figure it out07:12
khirrT_T07:12
DaSkreechtimd: A mount point?07:12
timd?07:12
timdthat's what the error says07:13
hitmanWillykhirr, any ones that you installed via kubuntu (ie through apt) will be pulled in as dependencies, any third party ones will have to be reinstalled07:13
DaSkreechtimd: what is throwing it?07:13
timdwhat?07:13
khirruhmm07:14
DaSkreechtimd: What told you that error?07:14
khirrwill i lose all07:14
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timdimage a guy that used nothing but windows from 3.0 and then one day....i dunno, today, decided he wants to try linux....07:14
timd<----me07:14
timdmovie player07:14
hitmanWillykhirr, actually, you'll probably be fine07:14
timdThe source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?07:15
khirruhmm, so, i'll try with my via drivers fisrt07:15
sebastianhooker_isn't it great to be able to say, screw windows, i'm using linux!07:15
khirris so hard configure it ;S07:15
DaSkreechtimd: that's what it says?07:15
timdnow it does07:15
DaSkreechtimd: you read !dvd ?07:15
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timdi'm not seeing that in the adept manager07:15
timdyes07:15
hitmanWillykhirr, did you download those drivers off the web?07:16
timdand downloaded all the stuff07:16
timdoh i'm using totem07:16
khirrno07:16
DaSkreechsebastianhooker_: It's even better when you just say I'm using linux :)07:16
khirrthere isnt for linux07:16
sebastianhooker_DaSkreech: touche!07:16
DaSkreechtimd: did you try and add seveas's packages ?07:16
hitmanWillykhirr, it should be alright, kubuntu is pretty good for that stuff07:16
timdwhat's that? i just did as the instructions told me in !dvd07:17
sebastianhooker_DaSkreech: although, the first step to getting a girlfriend is uninstalling linux07:17
khirrbut, when i install, i feel so slow my card07:17
khirrlow frames per sescond07:17
khirrin mandriva was diferent07:17
sebastianhooker_DaSkreech: however, i can pull it off, i still get laid hahaha07:17
khirrbut i like kubuntu XD07:17
DaSkreech!women07:18
ubotuThe women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.07:18
sebastianhooker_so what are all the different types of ubuntu?07:18
S4L2Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu (or something like that)07:18
S4L2yeah, that was right07:19
sebastianhooker_whats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?07:19
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sebastianhooker_and why don't schools use linux? it would make life so much easier07:19
khirrkde vs gnome xD07:19
hitmanWillysebastianhooker_, fluxbuntu, ubuntu studio, ubuntu ce, ubuntu se, goglebuntu, etc.07:19
sebastianhooker_csills: way to use comcast :D only the best right?07:19
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sebastianhooker_aren't there over 100 hacking programs on linux alone?07:20
hitmanWillysebastianhooker_, define hacking program07:20
sebastianhooker_hitmanWilly: spamming, getting into files, the usual07:21
DaSkreechsebastianhooker_: what?07:21
DaSkreechWhere are you getting this from?07:21
hitmanWillysebastianhooker_, pretty much every one of those 'hacking tools' ie traceroute, ssh, telnet, wireshark, etc, have legitimate primary uses07:22
hitmanWillysebastianhooker_, they just don't place artificial limits on what you can do with them07:22
sebastianhooker_hitmanWilly: whats one to get into someone's files? using an IP07:22
sebastianhooker_hitmanWilly: there's a guy named ethan i wanna freak out07:22
hitmanWillysebastianhooker_, sorry...not gonna help with that...07:23
sebastianhooker_hitmanWilly: aww come on, what will it take?07:23
DaSkreechsebastianhooker_: hang around here for 4 or 5 more years and it'll come naturally :)07:23
DaSkreechsebastianhooker_: a t lot more than you know now :)07:24
wolferinehow do you setup sshd initially?07:24
sebastianhooker_DaSkreech: u should help me now lol07:24
wolferinewhere are the config files?07:24
Lynourewolferine: for what?07:25
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soulridersebastianhooker_: no one here will help you with somethign like that07:25
soulriderits unethical07:25
soulriderand it does against the code of conduct07:25
sebastianhooker_well true07:25
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hitmanWillywolferine, probably /etc/conf.d/07:25
sebastianhooker_i'm installing world of warcraft, hacking is not my lol07:25
DaSkreech!coc | sebastianhooker_07:25
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ubotusebastianhooker_: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/07:25
DaSkreechwolferine: to do what?07:26
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wolferinenm07:27
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NicObrainguten morgen @ll07:29
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DaSkreechguten07:30
NicObrainis hier wer der mir eventuell mit meinen nvidia problem helfen knnte??07:30
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hitmanWilly!de | NicObrain07:30
ubotuNicObrain: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:30
NicObrainok, danke07:31
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greg_gok, I have been having this problem lately. After a while of computer uptime (probably 1 day or so) certain apps won't load (in KDE) but after I do a retart of X then they work again.07:37
sebastianhooker_hey07:37
sebastianhooker_i want to do some SMB sharing through windows07:37
sebastianhooker_how do I log onto my linux computer through my windows computer?07:38
greg_gFirefox is the main one, and then most of the gnome apps (yes, kubuntu-desktop installed with ubuntu-desktop)07:38
sebastianhooker_the dialog screen comes up, but then my username and pass don't work07:38
khirrwhere can i download amsn 0.97 rc1 for kubuntu?07:40
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DaSkreechgreg_g: open them in the console07:46
DaSkreech!info amsn07:46
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2488 kB, installed size 9108 kB07:46
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DaSkreech!info amsn gutsy07:47
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-2build1 (gutsy), package size 2456 kB, installed size 8944 kB07:47
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khirrsomeone of u have the 0.97 rc1 in .deb for ubuntu?07:50
DaSkreechkhirr: Nope ask a search engine :)07:51
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nikosalve a tutti07:51
nikohi to all!07:51
khirraer07:52
khirr!amsn07:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:52
nikoitalian?07:52
nikokhirr.....07:52
khirr?07:52
nikodo u use kubuntu?07:52
khirryes07:52
nikowell07:52
nikodo u like amsn?07:52
khirryes07:52
nikokopete is much better!07:53
khirruhmm07:53
nikoi believe07:53
khirrbut, amsn i more complete07:53
DaSkreech!it | niko07:53
ubotuniko: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:53
nikowell07:53
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nikoi speak english07:53
khirryo tambien07:53
nikobut i thank u for the info!!!07:53
nikokhirr07:53
DaSkreechkhirr: open konqueror and type gg: amsn 0.97 deb ubuntu07:54
khirrdime07:54
nikoinstall it from07:54
nikorep!07:54
khirrokay07:54
nikoor get it by typing07:54
rodrigohey dask07:54
nikoapt-get install amsn*07:54
nikoit must work07:54
nikofor install07:54
nikoamsn07:54
khirruhmm i have installed .97 b07:54
DaSkreechrodrigo: hey07:54
khirri'd like rc107:54
rodrigodaskreech two news07:54
rodrigoone good one bad07:55
nikoit does work?07:55
DaSkreechniko: khirr  wants a newere version than the ones in the repos07:55
rodrigowich one goes first?07:55
khirryes07:55
nikoahhhhhhhhhh07:55
nikoeheheh07:55
DaSkreechkhirr: then find 0.97rc1 deb07:55
DaSkreechrodrigo: bad07:55
nikoI'm a newbie07:55
rodrigodaskreech: lol it doens't open07:55
khirrY_Y07:55
nikobut happy to help07:55
niko^^07:55
rodrigothdaskreech e good it appears in  hte menu bar07:56
nikoi'm rigth?07:56
khirrasi parece xD07:56
DaSkreechrodrigo: open it from the Command line see if it has any errors07:56
khirrlo mas importante es ayudar07:56
nikogiusto! rigth! exacto!07:56
khirrthe files .package?07:56
khirrwhat is the diference?07:56
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rodrigodaskreech: lol friend see errrors? I feel like einstein for just download it now07:57
khirrhow can i install one file.package?07:57
rodrigonow to see errors!07:57
DaSkreechrodrigo: open a konsole and type cine<tab>07:57
rodrigodaskreech07:58
rodrigook07:58
DaSkreechrodrigo: if it doesn't open pastebin the errors :)07:58
rodrigobut Im now downloading07:58
rodrigoanother package07:58
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rodrigoa pal of the ubuntu es is helping me with ardour07:58
rodrigoso we must wait is't it?07:59
DaSkreechno you can run a program while installing07:59
DaSkreechYou can't install while installing :)07:59
rodrigook07:59
rodrigooooooooooohhhhhhh07:59
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rodrigoIm starting to think your obi wan and Im anakin07:59
rodrigoin the linux world07:59
rodrigowell08:00
rodrigoI prefer Luke08:00
nikodaskreech08:00
rodrigodon't wont to get neurotic08:00
nikomay ask u some help?08:00
rodrigoand go for the dark side08:00
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khirrinteresting :D08:00
greg_gDaSkreech: sorry, was away, when run in a terminal they just tell me segment fault, core dumped08:01
niko-.-08:01
nikowell08:02
DaSkreechgreg_g: yeesh08:02
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nikoi start open arena,,,, i try online aming!08:02
DaSkreech!ask | niko08:02
ubotuniko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:02
nikoops08:02
nikogaming!08:02
nikooh well08:02
nikosorry08:02
greg_gone person had the idea that maybe there was something wrong with the gtk libraries in kde, or something08:02
nikomy trouble is08:02
nikoin the installation of secondlife-install....08:03
nikoit blocks my apt....08:03
niko& my package manager....08:03
nikoalso the updater manager....08:03
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khirrwhere can i get tcl?08:04
Ace2016hi all08:04
DaSkreechgreg_g: Hmm i guess you could kick in a reinstall08:04
nikoi tried "apt-get install -f"08:04
DaSkreechJucato: how goes?08:04
DaSkreechniko: how are you installing it?08:04
nikobut it didn't work!!!08:04
nikoby pacjage manager08:04
DaSkreechIt's there?08:04
DaSkreechNeat :-)08:04
nikoit was installling08:04
rodrigodaskreech how was the name of the page pastebin08:05
rodrigohow I get it?08:05
DaSkreech!paste08:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:05
nikobut it report me a trouble....08:05
rodrigothanks ubotu08:05
DaSkreechniko: What trouble?08:05
nikoduring the download....08:05
nikoit can't find the archive...08:06
rodrigohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24951/08:06
rodrigohere you gon daskreech08:06
rodrigogo08:06
DaSkreechniko: What's the name of the package?08:06
greg_gDaSkreech: reinstall? and then figure out what package I install does it? testing that would be tough because it doesn't happen for about a day.  A day per package is not realistic.  Is there something else I can look for08:06
niko"secondlife-install"08:06
DaSkreechrodrigo: what did you type in?08:06
nikoi tried also08:06
nikoapt-get remove....08:06
JucatoDaSkreech: still at a loss on what to do... :(08:07
nikobut didn't do anything....08:07
nikoit reports the same error....08:07
DaSkreechgreg_g: I've not had a segmentation core dump before that wasn't hard drive related08:07
DaSkreech!info secondlife-install08:07
ubotuPackage secondlife-install does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:07
DaSkreechniko: Where did you get it from?08:07
rodrigodaskreech the last comnand you told me08:07
DaSkreechcine then pressing tab ?08:07
DaSkreech!tab | rodrigo08:08
uboturodrigo: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.08:08
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rodrigocine<tab>08:08
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DaSkreechrodrigo: cine then press the key tab :)08:08
nikofrom package manager08:09
rodrigodaskreech: like*.* in windows?08:09
nikoi filtered....08:09
nikoDaS08:09
nikoit doesn't mather08:09
DaSkreech*blinks*08:09
greg_gDaSkreech: this is a brand new drive08:09
nikoeheheh08:09
nikoi've got the dvd version of kubuntu....08:09
greg_gDaSkreech: and I am only restarting X, not the computer and it fixes it08:09
DaSkreechgreg_g: Well the only time I had an app segfault it was the drive it was reading the libs from08:09
nikoi've only one quest08:09
rodrigoyou are gonna hate me but which one is the key tab?08:10
rodrigoenter?08:10
rodrigoor the big one08:10
rodrigofor spacing?08:10
nikonope08:10
nikois08:10
greg_gDaSkreech: I have two drives but the external only has media on it, and the internal is brand new08:10
DaSkreechrodrigo: It's normally the one above caps lock08:10
nikothe key on the left08:10
nikowith to arrows08:10
DaSkreechrodrigo: it puts like 4-6 spaces in when you press it08:10
nikoin opposite direction08:10
rodrigoah ok08:11
rodrigoin spanish08:11
rodrigois tabulador08:11
nikoTAB....08:11
DaSkreechgreg_g: I'm assuming the libs are on the brand new one08:11
nikoit's the same abs08:11
nikofor IT08:11
nikoSPA08:11
greg_gDaSkreech: yeah08:11
nikoENG08:11
DaSkreechtabulador then :)08:11
niko....08:11
nikoeheheh08:11
rodrigook so i do that in the console08:11
DaSkreechrodrigo: yes. It should finish the name for you08:11
rodrigook you teach me linux I'l teach you spanish08:11
DaSkreechDeal08:11
nikoDaS do u suggest me the Cd or DVD version?08:12
rodrigodaskreech08:12
rodrigofor your girlfriend:08:12
rodrigoO como te amo08:12
DaSkreechniko: Neither should matter :)08:12
rodrigoit mean how I love you08:12
DaSkreechSi!08:12
greg_gOh how I love you08:12
greg_gright?08:12
rodrigolol08:12
greg_gyes!08:12
rodrigoyep08:12
rodrigolet's make some romance08:12
rodrigolater guys08:12
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JucatoO.o08:12
DaSkreech:-)08:12
rodrigonot everythins is computer08:12
rodrigos08:13
nikobut dvd it's better than cd ver?08:13
nikoor it's almost the same?08:13
rodrigook let's work08:13
DaSkreechJucato: is there an installable secondlife package ?08:13
khirrwhat the command yto copy one folder?08:13
khirrand to delete one folder?08:13
JucatoDaSkreech: dunno sorry08:13
DaSkreechniko: better if you have terrible download speed08:13
nikoYEAH!08:13
nikoi got it08:13
nikoeheheheh08:13
DaSkreechJucato: niko says that he is installing the package secondlife-install from the DVD08:13
nikonope!08:14
nikonot from dvd08:14
khirr?08:14
nikofrom internet08:14
nikofrom package manager08:14
nikoadept08:14
khirris del the command to delete one file?08:14
DaSkreechYeah08:14
DaSkreechkhirr: rm08:15
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khirrand, to copy?08:15
JucatoDaSkreech: afaik, there's none from the repos08:15
khirrcopy a folder?08:15
greg_gDaSkreech: any other ideas other than the harddrive?08:15
DaSkreechJucato: that's what I thouht08:15
Admiral_Chicago_cp08:15
DaSkreechgreg_g: I'd say something is up with the libs but then they should segfault all the time right?08:15
rodrigook daskreech here it goes what appear in the console08:16
rodrigohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24958/08:16
greg_gDaSkreech: yeah, you would think08:16
DaSkreechrodrigo: you too huh?08:16
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rodrigome too?08:17
mike_Greets, everyone...08:17
khirrT_T08:17
khirri wnt to copy one folder, but i cant08:17
DaSkreechrodrigo: greg_g is getting the same error08:17
DaSkreechmike_: did you get the URL?08:17
rodrigowith cinellera?08:17
DaSkreechrodrigo: no firefox08:17
rodrigoI don't know08:17
DaSkreechkhirr: you have to cp -r08:17
mike_DaSkreech: Sorry, I'm not remembering at the moment...?08:18
DaSkreechfor KDE 3.5.708:18
rodrigoIm just follinw what you telling me todo08:18
rodrigoja08:18
greg_grodrigo: and other gnome apps, all kde apps seem to work fine08:18
DaSkreechdid you get that sorted out?08:18
khirrdone :D08:18
mike_DaSkreech: Wrong "mike". :-)08:18
DaSkreechmike_: stop mooching the name!08:18
mike_Hehe08:18
rodrigoyou mean you want me to check it out?08:19
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago_: any core dump advice ?08:19
rodrigowith fire fox08:19
rodrigothe error?08:19
DaSkreechrodrigo: no that's my job :)08:19
rodrigommm08:19
rodrigoooooook08:19
Admiral_Chicago_with firefox?08:19
Admiral_Chicago_core dump for what profram08:19
rodrigoIm just a padawan08:20
rodrigohere08:20
rodrigonot yet a jedi08:20
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago_: cinelerra for rodrigo  and ff for greg_g08:20
rodrigowow08:20
rodrigoyou are asking for backups?08:20
DaSkreechwell all gnome apps after the uptime creeps over 24 hours for greg_g08:20
rodrigothat's cool man08:20
Admiral_Chicago_for greg_g i would suggest filing a bug report on launchpad and linking me to it.08:21
rodrigoadmiral_chicago thanks for the help08:21
greg_gAdmiral_Chicago_: ok08:21
Admiral_Chicago_not sure, i dont use cinelerra but i would also file a bug report08:21
Admiral_Chicago_and link me to them08:21
rodrigommmmm08:21
rodrigoso it's not all my fault08:22
rodrigothe program has bugs08:22
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24958/08:22
rodrigoNow I feel better08:22
DaSkreechstrange duck rodrigo  :)08:22
mike_I was dual-booting two copies of Kubuntu (had one strictly for stable software and stuff I knew I want installed, one for all the bleeding edge stuff and testing out new stuff). I just deleted the partition for the second installation using QtParted (tried GParted first, which only booted into a busybox terminal), did "sudo update-grub" and now I'm getting error 22 when Grub tries to load.08:22
rodrigodaskreech what does it mean? strange  duck08:22
rodrigo?08:22
rodrigosome slangs i don't get them08:23
rodrigolike in mexican spanish cool)08:23
rodrigocool is chido08:23
rodrigochida ayuda08:23
rodrigocool help+08:23
Admiral_Chicago_rodrigo: is that what happens when you try to start is CLI?08:23
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DaSkreechrodrigo: it means that cinelerra doesn't do things that the other ducks in ubuntu do :)08:23
rodrigoadmiral_chicago: what?08:23
greg_gAdmiral_Chicago_: that is what I get, only less the info lines08:23
DaSkreechlike mostly be easy to install and work :)08:23
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago_: yes08:24
Admiral_Chicago_ah sorry. okay.08:24
rodrigoooooooooh ok08:24
rodrigovery strange duck then08:24
khirrwhere can i get tcl?08:24
Admiral_Chicago_what release are you in rodrigo greg_g08:24
greg_gAdmiral_Chicago_: Fiesty08:24
rodrigowhat is cli?08:24
DaSkreechrodrigo: the Konsole08:24
greg_gAdmiral_Chicago_: but I added the kubuntu kde 3.5.7 repo08:25
mike_rodrigo: Command Line Interface08:25
Admiral_Chicago_greg_g: run the program and give me all the information in a pastebin08:25
greg_gAdmiral_Chicago_: I would, but i don't have the errors right now08:25
greg_gAdmiral_Chicago_: I just restarted X08:25
rodrigoah ok08:25
greg_gwhich fixes it (sorry, I forget to complete my thoghts before hitting enter)08:25
rodrigoman Im really getting educated here08:26
mike_Can someone help me with Grub's error 22?08:26
DaSkreechmike_: the fastest way is to hit the Grub FAQ08:26
Admiral_Chicago_mike_: the second partion contained GRUB which you deleted i think08:26
Admiral_Chicago_best bet would be to grab SuperGRUB CD or something like that08:26
rodrigodaskreech: hey dask, when I will see you again08:27
Admiral_Chicago_or reinstall it08:27
Admiral_Chicago_rodrigo: he's always here...08:27
rodrigoI must leave in about 15 minutes08:27
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greg_gAdmiral_Chicago_: I am going to fill the bug report, (linking to you) with the basic info, then when it happens again I will add more detail08:27
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rodrigodaskreech08:27
greg_gbtw, where are the core dumps located?08:27
Admiral_Chicago_greg_g: /var/crash08:28
rodrigodude its ok helping people here but you must go party also08:28
rodrigosome times08:28
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DaSkreechrodrigo: yes08:28
greg_gAdmiral_Chicago_: thanks08:28
DaSkreechrodrigo: ok I will in 15 minutes08:28
DaSkreechor .. after Futurama08:28
Admiral_Chicago_well if you run it in the command line, it would be the whole ourput08:28
rodrigolend me now when you visit mexico08:28
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago_: good info08:28
mike_Admiral_Chicago_: Thanks a lot. I'll try that.08:28
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rodrigoI show you teotihuacan08:28
DaSkreechrodrigo: sure08:28
rodrigoor something cool08:28
DaSkreechrodrigo: ooooh I have a wallet from there08:29
rodrigoto edit in yes you got it08:29
rodrigocinelerra08:29
greg_gAdmiral_Chicago_: ok, I will add the logs for the apps I had crash08:29
rodrigodaskreech: where you come from dask?08:29
DaSkreechrodrigo: the 3rd matrix.08:30
rodrigohaha08:31
khirri cant install amsn T_T08:31
rodrigowell I'm from wonderland spanish version08:31
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DaSkreechrodrigo: I'm not too far from you :) I could boat over to you08:31
DaSkreechkhirr: found a package?08:31
rodrigodaskreech so what you think?08:32
rodrigois it installable? cinelerra?08:32
rodrigoor what?08:32
khirryep. package08:32
khirrbut, i hav installed the 0.97b08:32
rodrigoboat?08:32
khirrbut, no one run08:32
DaSkreechrodrigo: It's installed We just need to make sure that it's all together08:32
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rodrigommmmmmm08:32
rodrigoextrange duck08:33
rodrigoit works like a puzzle08:33
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Admiral_Chicago_greg_g: sounds good, make sure to let me see it08:33
DaSkreechrodrigo: Yes08:33
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khirrwhere can i get the offical repository list?08:33
greg_gwill do08:33
rodrigoand adimiral is helping you to do that?08:33
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago_: No clue for cinelerra huh?08:34
rodrigowell I believe Im not the chosen one08:34
rodrigoI don't see green numbers over here08:34
DaSkreech!easysource08:34
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:34
rodrigoIm more like the kung pow chosen one08:34
rodrigothan neo08:34
rodrigohope betty is not here08:34
khirris good or bad use automatix?08:35
Admiral_Chicago_khirr: bad08:35
Admiral_Chicago_it does a lot of things in non ideal ways and basically forces packages to install08:35
Admiral_Chicago_apt-get -f install versus apt-get install08:35
khirrsomeone could help me o install amsn T_T08:36
rodrigooh man I must go08:36
rodrigonow08:36
rodrigooh no08:36
Admiral_Chicago_and if you use automatix getting help can become a nightmare08:36
Admiral_Chicago_!amsn08:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:36
Admiral_Chicago_odd...08:36
rodrigoI can stay another fifteen minutes08:36
DaSkreechrodrigo: Betty08:36
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DaSkreech!info amsn08:37
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2488 kB, installed size 9108 kB08:37
DaSkreech!info amsn gutsy08:37
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-2build1 (gutsy), package size 2456 kB, installed size 8944 kB08:37
DaSkreechHe's looking for amsn -97 rc108:37
rodrigoilarious movie08:37
rodrigoIm not master pain any more08:37
rodrigocall me betty08:37
rodrigohahahha08:37
khirri found the amsn 0.97 rc1.package08:37
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khirrbut, no one msn run T_T08:38
khirr0.96 only08:38
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greg_gAdmiral_Chicago_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/11965408:38
rodrigodaskreech: and all of this08:38
rodrigocan we make it public so others rodrigos doesn't go trough this?08:39
mike_Admiral_Chicago_: I just booted with the SuperGRUB CD and it just goes to a "grub>" prompt, rather than the language selection screen like it's supposed to. Any ideas?08:39
DaSkreechrodrigo: So going cow milking?08:39
rodrigoall this bugs?08:39
rodrigohahahah08:39
DaSkreechrodrigo: hopefully08:39
rodrigomy tonguy is getting frustratred for not having a descent video editor08:39
rodrigoa ya ya ya yaaaaaaaaay08:40
rodrigotonguy08:40
DaSkreech:-D08:40
mike_Admiral_Chicago_: Sorry, nevermind. I think I found what I need...08:40
rodrigoIm starting to use gnome08:40
rodrigoits cool08:40
rodrigotoo08:40
rodrigobut the commercial software is more confortable08:41
rodrigolike mike Yaguer says08:41
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rodrigoyou can't always get what you waaant08:41
rodrigocomfortable08:41
DaSkreech!e1708:42
ubotuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.08:42
rodrigook dask08:43
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DaSkreechrodrigo: going out to party now :008:43
DaSkreechSo late08:44
DaSkreech so late08:44
rodrigoyep08:44
rodrigobut this cinelerra thing08:44
mike_Admiral_Chicago_: Are you still around?08:44
rodrigoI don't know how much is obssesion08:44
rodrigohow much a true need08:44
rodrigoone friend of mine08:44
rodrigowants me to produce some videos for futball players08:45
rodrigothe custome here is using pirate software08:45
rodrigobut I don't want it08:45
DaSkreechrodrigo: you can install other ones to play with in the meantime08:45
greg_gok, bed now08:45
greg_ggoodnight all08:45
rodrigoI want to have a clear conscience08:45
DaSkreechnight08:45
khirri wanna cry Y_Y08:45
DaSkreechrodrigo: I support that08:45
rodrigodaskreech08:45
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mike_rodrigo: Have you tried Kino, KDEnlive, and/or LIVES?08:45
DaSkreechkhirr: where did you get the package08:45
DaSkreech and what is in it?08:45
khirrin th official website08:46
rodrigoI don't want to hurt the feelings of linux community but the video editors are not that good08:46
khirri have problems with tsl and tcl08:46
Admiral_Chicago_hi mike_ sorry I'm here08:46
DaSkreechtsl ?08:46
rodrigoI tried must of them08:46
khirrtls08:46
DaSkreechrodrigo: getting better all the time :)08:46
DaSkreech!info tls08:46
mike_Admiral_Chicago_: No problem, still having some problems...08:46
rodrigobut no ones have the level of premmiere08:46
ubotuPackage tls does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:46
Admiral_Chicago_whats the issue08:46
rodrigohey that's a beatle song08:47
khirrtls11.508:47
khirrtls1.508:47
khirrbut, the package say tcl file error08:47
DaSkreech!info tcl08:48
ubotuPackage tcl does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:48
DaSkreechkhirr: check if you have tcl isntalled08:48
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khirrtcl does no exist in feisty ;S08:48
khirruhmm08:48
khirri have it08:48
khirrbut, not run08:48
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khirrChecking for TCL Scripting Language ... failed08:50
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khirrCould not find 'TCL Scripting Language'. Try using the native package manager for Ubuntu 7.04 (apt-get) to install a package with similar name to 'tcl'.08:50
rodrigohey daskreech so its a lost cause by now?08:50
niko1983italian channel?08:51
DaSkreechrodrigo: Might not be we shall take a look and inform you08:51
DaSkreech rodrigo did you file a bug?08:51
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rodrigofile a bug?08:51
rodrigoyou mean upload08:51
Admiral_Chicago_!it | niko198308:51
ubotuniko1983: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:52
rodrigoinfo08:52
rodrigoabout the prgram?08:52
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mike_Admiral_Chicago_: I can't find anything on the SuperGRUB website that helps with this... When I boot from the CD, i just get a "grub>" prompt. I tried running the commands listed here - http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html#How_Make_your_Super_Grub_Floppy_Disk (replacing "fd0" with "cdrom0") - and it says "Error while parsing number"08:52
mike_Admiral_Chicago_: Any ideas?08:53
Admiral_Chicago_!grub08:53
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:53
Admiral_Chicago_try following those intructions. might be easier..08:53
rodrigook pal08:53
rodrigothe thing is that at least it appears in the menu08:53
Admiral_Chicago_you can use the liveCd for those mike_08:53
rodrigoof multmiedia08:54
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mike_Admiral_Chicago_: Much appreciated. I'll see what I can do.08:54
rodrigomultimedia08:54
DaSkreech!bug | rodrigo08:54
uboturodrigo: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots08:54
rodrigoI push it08:54
mike_Admiral_Chicago_: The live CD I used to install Kubuntu?08:54
DaSkreechrodrigo: If you file a bug then you can follow it as we try and solve the problem and we will e-mail you when it's solved08:54
Admiral_Chicago_yes08:54
rodrigoooooh08:55
rodrigothis aplies also for my lexmark problem?08:55
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DaSkreechrodrigo: yes08:55
rodrigodaskreech ohh and just says what happens?08:55
rodrigocan I send you mor info to get more  precisse help08:56
rodrigomore info08:56
DaSkreechbut it's unlkely that will get fixed without Lexmark so I still say e-mail them and let them know that you use linux and would like the printer/scanner to work08:56
rodrigowhith that things you told me to paste08:56
rodrigo?08:56
DaSkreechrodrigo: read bugs.ubuntu.com It's pretty easy08:56
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rodrigook dask I must register08:57
rodrigothere08:57
azzcoHi I'm running pure kubuntu right now, 've got a spare partition which I inted to install winXP on.. how do I get grub to load after installing windows again?08:57
DaSkreech!grub08:57
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:57
Admiral_Chicago_!grub | azzco08:57
ubotuazzco: please see above08:57
azzcoI'll look into it08:58
azzcoI was afraid I'd have to reinstall kubuntu08:58
DaSkreechazzco: no fear08:58
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DaSkreechGood night all !08:58
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khirris more stable feisty or edgy?08:59
azzcoGod night (It's 6 o clock in the monring here though)08:59
azzcokhirr: if you're looking for stable go for dapper drake08:59
khirruhmmm08:59
khirris better than other two?08:59
azzcoI haven't had any problems with feisty though ;)08:59
rodrigook dask08:59
azzcoIt has long time support08:59
rodrigoI must leave now08:59
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rodrigoI will make the report later09:00
DaSkreechrodrigo: as must I09:00
DaSkreechhope to see you soon09:00
DaSkreechok :)09:00
rodrigothe same pal09:00
rodrigoenjoy futurama09:00
khirrhow long time has edgy?09:00
rodrigothat one eye chick is hot09:00
DaSkreechleeeeeeeeela09:00
rodrigoyep09:00
rodrigothe day matt groenning draw me09:00
rodrigoI would like to be drawn with her09:00
rodrigosee you later bro09:01
rodrigotake care09:01
DaSkreechI'll ask him :)09:01
rodrigoand thanks for the help09:01
azzcokhirr: I think it's kind of over since feisty ;), I'd say either go for feisty or dapper09:01
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azzcoOkay going to install windows now... wish me luck, I'm holding my thumbs for it not exploding09:02
khirruhmm, in edgy i didnt have problem with my camera, but in feisty...doesnt run ;S09:02
azzcoWhat kind of camera?09:03
khirri know xD09:03
khirrT_T09:03
khirrvimicro09:03
azzconever heard of but have you googled on it or checked the ubuntu forums?09:03
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azzcoOk well rebooting time09:04
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firdaussomebody help me..09:10
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niels_with what?09:10
firdausif im installing a software by using the adept manager09:10
firdauswhere the program goes??09:10
niels_if it doesnt go anywhere in the menus, trying opening a terminal and enter the command09:10
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mike_Admiral_Chicago_: I just tried both of those and it's still giving the same error. Thanks for your help so far though.09:12
mike_(error 22)09:12
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firdauswhat`s the command??09:13
Admiral_Chicago_firdaus: what program?09:13
niels_sometimes the same as the package name...09:13
firdauslibvorbis09:14
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mark_I've just installed wireless support for my edgy installation but I need WPA with AES... is this possible?09:15
rodrigo#kubuntu_es09:15
snowdonkeyMy Xterm runs slowly.  It takes 10 seconds for the prompt to come up and another 10 for it to close once I hit the X.09:15
snowdonkeyI found out the reason is for this error message I get when I login without X server: ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/0409:16
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snowdonkeyI downloaded smartmontools to check the health of the drive, all the tests pass, so trying to follow a hint on Gentoo forum I'm trying to configure Kernel09:17
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Admiral_Chicago_mike_: you want to basically mount /boot/grub from your stable partition09:17
snowdonkeyhere's the post, but it's vague on what I do next: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-563363.html?09:17
Admiral_Chicago_and get that one to update...09:17
rodrigohey guys09:17
rodrigohow can I found some one in Irc?09:17
Admiral_Chicago_sorry i'm not of much help now..09:17
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rodrigoI lost the chanel but I remeber his nickname09:18
Admiral_Chicago_ /whois nick09:18
rodrigothanks09:18
Lynourerodrigo: and even /msg nickname hello   if you actually know them.09:18
mark_!wireless09:18
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:18
mark_!WPA09:20
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:20
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mike_Admiral_Chicago_: Sorry, was away. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do.09:24
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mike_Admiral_Chicago_: I'm pretty sure I never deleted GRUB to begin with, because I did "sudo update-grub" after deleting the "unstable" partition, and it didn't give any errors. Or does that not really mean anything?09:25
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tyronhi im new t linux trying to access files in root can anyone help?09:31
mike_tyron: What do you mean by accessing files in root?09:31
tyronkdesu kwrite /ect/samba/smbusers09:31
tyronan i just get errors09:32
mike_Getting "Permission denied" when trying to look at certain files?09:32
tyronno here09:32
mike_tyron: You meant ".../etc/samba...", right?09:32
mike_Just making sure the errors aren't because of a typo. :-)09:33
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tyronhaha feeling really stupid now.. that you so much.09:34
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tyronone other thing after installing apache and  an ftp client how do i acess my www directory?09:35
mike_No problem, tyron - Don't feel stupid - I may have just broken my system with some careless repartitioning09:36
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mike_tyron: Sorry, I know nothing about any of that. :-\09:36
mike_!apache09:36
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)09:36
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mike_Admiral_Chicago_: I'm getting nowhere with this. I've tried every tutorial on both of those pages and keep getting "Error 22" when GRUB tries to load.09:38
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bricohhello :) i need help. I can't get adept_manager to work, it says its already running, but its not!09:39
mike_bricoh: Run "sudo killall adept_manager" from a terminal. If that doesn't work, open KSysGuard, find the process ID of Adept and do "sudo kill -9 <processid#here>"09:41
bricohill try :) tnx09:42
mike_No problem09:42
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mike_bricoh: You might want to check out GNOME's package management programs. I've never seen them give that problem (used to get it somewhat often with Adept), plus they have a lot more features.09:43
bricohI use kde though09:43
mike_bricoh: Me too ;-)09:43
bricohwhere can i find KSysGuart?09:44
bricohGuard09:44
mike_bricoh: K Menu -> System09:44
bricohfound it :)09:44
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mike_Can anyone please help me with GRUB's Error 22? I've already tried several tutorials, and SuperGRUB CD won't boot on my system.09:45
bricohstrange, but its not running09:45
mike_bricoh: Did you type "adept" into the search box?09:45
bricohyepp09:46
mike_Hmm09:46
mike_You could log out and log back in, maybe.09:46
mike_bricoh: Hang on one sec...09:46
bricohmy computer crashed yesterday, in the middle of an update..09:46
mike_Ohh, ouch.09:47
bricohthere would be a temp file somwhere that is blocking it?09:47
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mike_bricoh: Try running this command from Konsole: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"09:48
bricohbricoh@bricoh:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a09:48
bricohdpkg: Kravproblem hindrer oppsettet av limewire-basic:09:49
bricoh limewire-basic krever sun-java5-jre | sun-java6-jre | sun-java5-jdk | sun-java6-jdk. Men:09:49
bricoh  Package sun-java5-jre is not installed.09:49
bricoh  Package sun-java6-jre is not installed.09:49
bricoh  Package sun-java5-jdk is not installed.09:49
bricoh  Package sun-java6-jdk is not installed.09:49
bricohdpkg: Feil ved behandling av limewire-basic (--configure):09:49
bricoh kravproblem - setter ikke opp pakken09:49
bricohDet oppsto feil ved behandling av:09:49
bricoh limewire-basic09:49
mike_bricoh: Ok ok... :-)09:49
bricoherror09:49
mike_bricoh: Use the pastebin for long sets of lines like that. ;-)09:49
mike_!pastebin09:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:50
bricohokay, sorry :)09:50
mike_No problem09:50
mike_Umm... Try "sudo apt-get -f install" maybe?09:51
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bricohhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24964/09:51
bricoh:P09:51
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bricohit is starting to install java ;)09:52
mike_Cool09:53
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mike_Now can you help me fix GRUB? :-P09:53
mike_j/k09:53
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bricohhehe.. im pretty new at linux, but an extra head could not hurt?09:54
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mike_I decided I wanted to dual-boot two copies of Kubuntu - one strictly for stable software that I know I want to keep, the other for unstable stuff and programs I'm trying out (the stable partition is the second one I installed). I decided I no longer want the stable partition, so I deleted it. Reboot the system - "GRUB loading... Error 22"09:57
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SilentDismike_: was that your primary partition?09:58
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SilentDismike_: it sounds very much like you hosed grub's config files.09:59
bricohhmm.. there is a line in the GRUB config file that is trying to list your former stable installation..09:59
SilentDis!grub | mike_09:59
ubotumike_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:59
SilentDismike_: i'd actually check out the first link there, so you can just reinstall grub :)09:59
mike_SilentDis: I already followed every how-to in both of those, no dice. Thanks anyway though.09:59
SilentDismike_: weird, let me look up that error10:00
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mike_SuperGRUB CD won't even boot on my computer (nor will GParted, what I tried to use instead of QtParted). I think there might be something wrong with my setup in that regard.10:01
SilentDismike_: from what i'm reading, the MBR is hosed.10:01
mike_SilentDis: MBR is only for Windoze, right?10:01
SilentDismike_: some background info here at least: http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t405091.html10:02
SilentDismike_: should be, you might have to repartition to get anything back unfortunatly :(10:02
mike_SilentDis: Already looked at that page, I think. I stopped after seeing it was for if you had Windows installed (which I don't).10:02
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mike_SilentDis: Thanks anyway10:03
mike_ubotu: Why does the default partitioning tool in Kubuntu suck so bad? :-D10:04
SilentDislol10:04
SilentDismike_: have you tried the supergrubdisk?10:06
SilentDismike_: http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/10:07
mike_SilentDis: Yeah, it just booted into a GRUB prompt. I tried the commands it suggested here - http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html - with no luck.10:07
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mike_I think I'm developing a tumor10:08
SilentDisdamnit.  it's obvious that the stupid drive's MBR is hosed...  not sure how to repair it if all that hasn't worked other than a destructive repartiton of the whole thing :(10:08
mike_SilentDis: There is no MBR.10:08
SilentDismike_: grub still puts something there, where the bios first looks to bootstrap the machine10:09
mike_I wasn't dual-booting Windows + Linux, I was dual-booting two copies of Kubuntu10:09
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mike_GRUB still puts something where?10:09
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SilentDismike_: in the first few sectors of the drive.  when bios goes to look on boot media, it looks in specific locations (first couple sectors, as exmaple).  that's what's hosed.10:10
mike_Ohh ok10:10
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SilentDismike_: the only other thing I can think of, as I said, is a destructive reformat of the whole drive.  someone else might have a better recommendation for rebuilding it though.  sorry :(10:12
mike_Well, what I'm considering at this point, as it looks like it's my only option, is to boot the live CD, hopefully use QtParted to move all my stuff to a new partition, then do a clean install on the primary partition. Do you think that might work?10:12
SilentDismike_: yeah, it's a real bad solution in my book, and i KNOW there's a way to fix it (there always is), just don't know what that way is without rebuilding from scratch :(10:13
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mike_I decided I wanted to dual-boot two copies of Kubuntu - one strictly for stable software that I know I want to keep, the other for unstable stuff and programs I'm trying out (the stable partition is the second one I installed). I decided I no longer want the stable partition, so I deleted it. Reboot the system - "GRUB loading... Error 22"10:18
mike_!grub10:18
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:18
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Hobbseemike_: means you need to install grub on the *other* partition10:19
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mike_I've already tried the tutorials on those pages, as well as SuperGRUB CD, which only gave a GRUB prompt - tried the commands found here - http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html#How_Make_your_Super_Grub_Floppy_Disk - and I still get the same error.10:19
Hobbseemike_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0 didnt work?10:20
mike_Right.10:20
Hobbseewhat did it say?10:21
Hobbseemike_: i've used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-ec3e41291c7a5a7b61d7827299415204067765de a fair bit with no problem10:21
mike_It said it was successful10:21
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mike_I'm gonna try it again just to be *extra* sure, but I'm doubtful it's gonna help.10:22
tyronOk so ive installed apche, mysql and php all working but i get access denied when i try to drag and drop my site into /var/www/ - how am i supposed to access it?10:22
Hobbseewhich are you using as the root drive in this case?10:22
Hobbseethe stable, or the unstable?10:23
Hobbseeyou'd need to use the unstable /dev/hdax to make it work10:23
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mike_unstable10:23
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mike_Hobbsee: You're talking about the first guide under the "Using the Ubuntu Alternate/Install CD," right?10:24
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Hobbseemike_: yeah, think so.10:25
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Hobbseemike_: oh wait - the one underneat that10:25
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mike_Hobbsee: Oh ok. I somehow missed that one. I'm gonna try it...10:26
epimethgooooog morning10:26
mike_G'morning10:27
Fabian921hello10:28
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Fabian921is that the support channel for kubuntu?10:29
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epimethFabian921: you mean is this the support channel?10:30
Fabian921yes10:30
Fabian921sorry10:30
epimethyes :-)10:30
mike_Hobbsee: Would you mind helping me a bit with that tutorial?10:30
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Fabian921i have a question10:30
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Hobbseemike_: if i'm here, sure10:30
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Fabian921i changed from suse 9.3 to kubutu10:31
mike_Hobbsee: On step 4, where it says to mount the appropriate partitions...10:31
Fabian921and now i want to get my old desktop- configuration for my new system10:32
Fabian921is that possible?10:32
Fabian921(kde)10:32
Hobbseemike_: yep?10:33
Fabian921and how can i do that?10:33
Fabian921where are the configuration- files?10:33
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Fabian921is there a directory which i can copy?10:34
mike_There's no /boot partition listed - Just #1 Primary at /media/sda1, two swaps (one for the partition I deleted, which I'm guessing is the "logical" one, and one for the one I kept, labeled "primary"), then of course there's the free space from having deleted the partition10:34
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mike_Hobbsee: Should I just ignore that and proceed?10:36
mike_Hobbsee: Sorry I'm being so timid, but being confronted with the possibility of losing all my data makes me nervous. :-)10:36
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Hobbseemike_: yeah, should be fine.  you only need to mount the ones you use - make sur e/ is there10:37
Hobbseeyou can add anything else to fstab later anyway10:37
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Kittisakhello10:38
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Kittisakhelp me , how to enable /dev/tcp for bash shell10:38
mike_Good morning, Kittisak10:38
KittisakGood morning, mike10:39
mike_!tcp10:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tcp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:39
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mike_Hmm10:39
mike_I don't know anything about it either. :-\10:39
Kittisakmike: no problem10:39
berkesis there a tool or command in ubuntu to rebuild the fstab entirely?10:39
mike_Oh ok, Hobbsee. Thanks10:40
Kittisakubotu : thanks10:40
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)10:40
berkesevery update my fstab UUID break. resulting in a swap mount that is not activated. Rebuilding fstab from scratch may be the best option, not?10:40
thoreauputicafaik there is no /dev/tcp ...10:40
thoreauputicKittisak: what are you wanting to do, really?10:40
Kittisaki want write bash shell open socket10:41
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thoreauputicKittisak: but what are you actually doing ? What are you trying to achieve?10:41
thoreauputicmaybe if we know that we can answer10:42
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Kittisakthoreauputic : i interesting about bash script , learning10:43
Kittisakthoreauputic : export sock="/dev/tcp/$server/$port"10:43
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mike_Hobbsee: I'm like, 99.9% sure the swap partition labeled #5 is the one I set up on the partition I'm keeping, but it's "logical" and the partition I'm keeping is "primary" - Does that matter?10:43
fdovingKittisak: use ksh or sometihng not bash. it's a bash-on-ubuntu-and-debian issue.10:43
Kittisaki knowned about debian disable /dev/tcp10:43
Hobbseemike_: you shouldnt be letting it delete anything but swap regardless.  the logical/primary shouldnt matter, iirc10:44
Kittisakmay be re complie bash10:44
fdovingkeep in mind that if you want to make something others can use, you probably don't want to do that.10:44
Kittisakfdoving: thanks you everybody10:45
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fdovingKittisak: if you want to script in bash, make a ksh wrapper for opening sockets. simple script that takes arguments.10:45
Kittisaknow use telnet and netcat than /dev/tcp10:45
Kittisakfdoving : thanks you very much10:46
mike_Hobbsee: Ok. It's resizing the primary partition now......10:46
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thoreauputictelnet and netcat... sounds kind of insecure to me ( but I don't know what the script does)10:46
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mike_Complete IRC-newb question: How do you do the little action things? (e.g., "Name * does this)10:48
Kittisakthoreauputic: i testing write bash script for irc bot for learning about bash only10:48
fdovingmike_: /me thing10:48
mike_fdoving: Thanks10:48
thoreauputicKittisak: OK - I don't know enough to help then10:49
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Hobbseeheh10:49
Hobbseei hope it works10:49
Hobbseeelse i'll have to hide10:49
mike_lol10:49
Kittisakthoreauputic: bash script, i use telnet and netcat have done, but i want to know another way10:50
mike_Nah, you just won't have an indentured servant10:50
Kittisakthoreauputic: thanks you very much10:51
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Kittisaki ever program by Mono C# PHP and another but interest classic script10:53
mike_Hobbsee: After making the changes and selecting "Finish partitioning and write changes to disk" it says "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu." Any ideas?10:55
Hobbseemike_: you didnt mount / but tell it not to format it?10:55
mike_Umm... Whoops.10:56
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Kittisakthoreauputic: apologize for english language communication10:56
Kittisakopening dict hahaha10:57
thoreauputicKittisak: you are doing fine :)10:57
mike_Hobbsee: So I'm guessing to mount it, I just change its mount point to / ?10:57
Hobbseeyes10:57
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Kittisakthis channel talk about kubuntu only ?11:02
Kittisakor another ?11:03
Kittisaklaw11:03
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mike_Kittisak: You might check out #bash11:04
Kittisakmike_: thanks you11:04
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mike_I mean if you're wanting to get help with bash scripting11:04
mike_Kittisak: No problem11:04
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Tanaycan some1 help me to get my memory card device to work on kubuntu?11:05
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iarwain_hiya, anyone know how i can set the temperature when my fans need to start spinning?11:06
mike_Kittisak: Also, this - http://www.openaddict.com/documents/abs-guide/index.html - is supposed to be a great guide on scripting.11:07
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mike_I've had it sitting in my bookmarks for a good while now, keep putting off actually reading it. Hehe11:08
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Kittisakmike_: thanks very much11:09
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mike_No problem11:10
Kittisakmike_: my bookmarks too.11:11
Kittisak:)11:11
Kittisakmike_: thanks you for info again11:11
mike_Hobbsee: "The grub package failed to install into /target/... yada yada yada..." Am I missing something?11:11
mike_Glad to help :-)11:11
Tanayhey some1 help me get my memory card drive workin11:12
Tanayplssssssssss11:12
mike_Tanay, did you already look in /media ?11:12
Tanayyep11:12
Tanayi did11:12
Tanaybut it doesnt show the drive at all11:12
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mike_Maybe look in /dev and see if you can find it in there. If so, "sudo mount /dev/usbdrivesname /where/you/want/to/mount/it"11:14
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mike_Can't imagine why you'd have to go through all that though11:15
mike_Hobbsee: Still with us? :-)11:16
Kittisakmay me logical name: --> $ lshw11:17
Kittisakmay be logical name: --> $ lshw11:17
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Kittisaklook at product:11:18
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Tanayhey mike tried tht11:18
Tanaydoesnt seem to solve the problem11:18
KittisakTanay , try to $ lshw   and look for product: and logical name: and mount11:19
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KittisakTanay: kubuntu go to ---> Settings ----> Systems Administration -- select Mount Point Editer11:22
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KittisakTanay: i using KDE 3.5.6 on ubutn edgy 6.10 server11:22
Tanayok11:22
Tanayone sec11:22
KittisakTanay: i using KDE 3.5.6 on ubuntu edgy 6.10 server11:22
Tanayok i am using kubuntu fiesty fawn11:23
Kittisakoh11:23
Kittisaki never11:23
Tanayon a normal pc cant ee the systems administartion!11:23
mike_Hobbsee: I'm guessing it shouldn't actually be making progress at the "Select and install software" step?11:23
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Kittisakmike_ help me , hahaha :) , i never use kubuntu fiesty fawn11:25
Tanayyeah mike help11:25
Kittisakmike_: for Tanay11:25
zipperAnyone managed to get divxplayer working in linux? It says to "try Mplayer for linux support" - but after installing mplayer + mplayer mozilla plugin, it still shows that message. Any hints?11:25
zipper!divx11:25
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:25
Tanaywat system configuraion are u using krittisak???11:26
mike_Tanay: Sorry, what I already suggested is pretty much the limit of my knowledge. I'm still more of a newb than I care to admit. :-\11:26
KittisakTanay: i too11:26
mike_!seveas11:27
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:27
Tanayok Thanks!!!! i am a real newbie to linux! jsut 15 days old11:27
mike_zipper: Try following that link, and after following the guide, do "sudo apt-get install w32codecs" from a terminal11:27
mike_zipper: You might search in the package manager for divx stuff too, after adding Seveas' repository.11:28
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zippermike_: thanks, i'll try. I cant seem to find w32codecs in the repositories even though i have enabled multiverse and universe11:29
mike_zipper: You have to add Seveas' repository11:29
mike_!seveas11:29
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:29
zipperah okay11:30
KittisakTanay: what type of your memory card drive11:30
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mike_Now that I think about it, I don't think w32codecs includes divx support, could be wrong11:30
KittisakTanay: or product name11:30
mike_But I know I've seen a fair number of divx-related packages in the package manager11:30
mike_Never bothered with them though, since I've never had any divx files to play.11:31
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Kittisakmike_: programmer ?11:33
mike_Kittisak: Not yet. :-)11:33
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Kittisakmike_: where u from ?11:33
zippermike_: i think i can play regular divx files with vlc, but i need to get the web-based divxplayer working11:34
mike_I've written a couple of very simple scripts that anybody who sat down and read for a couple hours could do, but that's about it.11:34
mike_Kentucky, US. And you?11:34
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KittisakThailand donmaung11:34
Kittisaksawasdee krub11:34
Kittisakhello11:34
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mike_zipper: Well, from my understanding of MPlayer, once you get the codec for divx installed, it should play them without a hitch11:35
mike_hi11:35
zippermike_: i have mplayer, and now also the w32codecs package. Restarting firefox, but i still cant play the video11:36
Kittisakmike_: Kentucky, i like fire chicken11:36
Kittisak:)11:36
mike_zipper: Search Adept for "divx codec"11:36
mike_That's all we're known for. :-P11:37
Kittisakzipper: recommend Automatix11:37
zipperi dont like automatix =/11:38
zipperwhen it works, its great11:38
zipperbut if something goes wrong... you're boned11:38
Kittisakgreat for sometime :P11:38
mike_Yeah. I've stopped using it.11:38
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mike_All the experts in here strongly recommend against it11:39
Kittisakoh!11:39
zippermike_: i cant seem to find any interresting divx packages11:39
zippernot any that would help me play divxplayer sites anyway11:39
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Panda200xMikeOS? I think I used that once :p11:41
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mike_zipper: What site are you trying to go to? I'm gonna see if it works on this end11:41
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zippermike_: http://stage6.divx.com/user/Greensleeve/video/1251655/Quake-4-Duel---WSVG-2006---Fatal1ty-vs-Toxic---Placebo11:42
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Panda200xHey I updated Kubuntu, and when I reboot I can't login because it restarts X :/11:43
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mike_zipper: It plays here11:43
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benutz0rhave you uptated yout kernel, too? x Panda200x11:44
benutz0r*your11:44
mike_zipper: Hang on...11:44
vbgunzhow do I make a disk read only?11:44
vbgunzread only to me and all regular users but writable by sudo of course would very useful11:44
Panda200xI don't think so11:44
benutz0rhmm11:44
benutz0rno idea ^^11:44
nahemothis there any restore point like thing in Kubuntu or something like  "get data back" KDE crashed an all my hda5 formated!!11:44
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mike_zipper: Search in Adept for "divx" and tell me which ones you have installed11:45
Tanayhey krittisak sorry i wasnt on my desk11:45
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dazjorzvbgunz: set the uid and gid of the disk in fstab11:45
Tanayi have a sony vaio11:45
BadRobothi there11:45
dazjorzvbgunz: I think that'll work11:45
Tanayand its ainbuilt memory stick duo por drive11:45
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vbgunzdazjorz: I'll look into it, thank you11:45
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zippermike_: it shows: avidemux, avifile-divx-plugin, divxcomp, drip - none of them installed11:45
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BadRoboti need some urgent help,i mistakenlydeleted the APT line for on the repositories ,the line what gives the server,web/ftp/mirrors adresses for the updates and package on synaptic,how can i get them back?11:47
mike_zipper: Looks like the ones you need are from the Automatix repo's. :-\11:47
zipper!source-o-matic BadRobot11:47
zippermike_: awww okay....11:48
zipper!automatix11:48
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe11:48
BadRobotso,should i do a command line with those !source-o-matic11:48
zippermike_: you know where to find automatix?11:49
mike_zipper: You could try googling these: "libdivx0-binary.deb" "libdivxdecore0-binary.deb" "libdivxencore0-binary.deb"11:49
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BadRobotUbotu,grandmother sends you some greeting please shut it up or keep your hands out the keyboard,if you can't help don't disturb either11:49
mike_zipper: www.getautomatix.com - But given ubotu's warning, I'd consider that a last resort11:50
ben_!kde11:50
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.11:50
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mike_zipper: You could also try just installing Automatix, then installing the packages you want via your package manager, then uninstalling Automatix11:50
BadRobotso how should get it back?11:50
llp78!WorksForMe11:50
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.11:51
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zipperBadRobot: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:51
zippermike_: okay thanks. I remember there being an application just like automatix... forgot the name though. Is automatix the best out there?11:52
sivajii dont want to start "mail transport agent" at boot time ple someone help me11:53
mike_zipper: From what I've heard, it's the worst. :-P11:54
zippermike_: yeah, but well, the best of its kind then11:54
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mike_By "application like it", you mean one that uses scripts to install/remove software that doesn't have available deb packages?11:54
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zipperyes...11:54
mike_It's the only one I'm aware of11:55
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zipperi'm positive there used to be another one which i used.... oh well, probably not being worked on anymore11:55
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mike_zipper: If you want, I could just e-mail you the files.11:55
mike_the .debs, I mean,11:56
zippermike_: the .deb files? Thanks, but isnt that likely to cause dependency problems?11:56
mike_zipper: It shouldn't. Worst case scenario, they just won't get installed (step1: "sudo dpkg -i package1 package2..." if you get errors, then step 2: "sudo apt-get -f install")11:57
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sivaji2009zipper mike_ ple help me i dont want to start "mail transport agent at boot time" how can i do this11:58
mike_Step 2 tries to install the uninstalled dependencies for the packages in step 1, and if they're not available, it just removes the packages in step 111:58
zippermike_: okay. Well sure, hit me. I'm not registered on this network, so cant send you a query/pm =/11:58
zippersivaji2009: sorry, don't know11:58
mike_sivaji2009: Sorry, I only look like I know what I'm doing. I have absolutely no idea.11:58
mike_zipper: Same here11:59
zippersivaji2009: my bet is that you want to look inside your /etc/init.d/ directory, but thats only a guess11:59
mike_Are you registered on any network?11:59
zipperwell, quakenet doesnt require you to be registered11:59
mike_irc.quakenet.org?12:00
zipperi use a danish one... irc.dk.quakenet.eu.org12:00
zipperbut uhm12:00
zipperdont worry too much about it12:00
zipperi mean12:00
sivaji2009zipper mike_  thank u12:00
zipperif i get your .deb files, then what about updating them?12:01
mike_zipper: Channel?12:01
zippermike_: lets take #linux-stuffs12:01
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llp78trying to empty the rubbish bin and getting "access denied to /home/lon/.local/share/files/pp/autom4te.cache/traces1"12:14
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mike_Hobbsee: Are you around?12:15
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lxuserGuten Morgen12:17
BadRobotthx zipper12:17
lxuserIst hier jemand schon so wach, der mir helfen kann?12:18
BadRobotGuten Morgen lxuser Wie geht's dich?12:18
lxuserSei weit noch gut !! Ich habe ein Problem. Seit dem Upgrade von 6.10 auf Kubuntu 7.0412:18
BadRobotI ch kann dich helfen ich spreche nichts zo viel deustch12:19
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lxuserBeim Booten erscheint eine Maske in der ich meine Betriebssysteme aussuchen kann und dann geht es los mit dem booten. Seit dem letzten Kernelupdate jedoch wirdmeine Grub berschrieben statt HD 1,0 steht dort HD 0,012:20
thoreauputic!de12:21
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:21
_4strOyop yop12:21
lxuserNun muss ich jedesmal "e" drcken dann noch mal "e" HD 0,0 auf HD 1,0 ndern, entern und dann mit "b" fhrt der Rechner hoch.12:21
BadRobotFinally ubotu done something good12:21
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thoreauputiclxuser: please /join #ubuntu-de or #kubuntu-de12:22
lxuserokay thank you ! and bye !12:23
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llp78ive now removed the files from the rubbish bin using the shell - but now im getting an error everytime i empty the bin - saying the files i removed via the shell do not exist -12:25
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pagllp78, with what command did you remove them in shell?12:26
llp78sudo rm -r12:27
pagjust a guess, but did you remember to empty both ~/.local/share/Trash/info/ and ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ ?12:27
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llp78pag: i forgot to empty the /info - problem is sorted thanks for your help12:29
pagnp :)12:30
Kittisakbye12:31
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krautmoin12:46
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jovansis there a kernel update soon on feisty the current version  cause problems12:55
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sivaji2009when boot my system i could see "mounting root file , loading kernel module ,starting sendmail transport agent etc "  i dont want to start sendmail agent how can i do this  i am not using this and it take long time to start12:57
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weedarI have Vista installed, will Kubuntu be able to split the ntfs-partition?01:06
pawitpNot split, shrink01:06
pawitpYou won't want to split up your windows parition01:06
weedarpawitp, I don't? :)01:06
pawitpYou'll want to shrink the size of your windows partition01:07
pawitpAnd I'm pretty sure ubuntu can do it01:07
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sivajihi all01:08
weedarMaybe I should just give it a go, this is a new laptop anyway so I don't have much to lose :)01:08
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puppetmasterhi everyone01:08
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puppetmasterhow can I setup winxp without losing ubuntu?01:08
pawitppuppetmaster Hmm I normally resize the ubuntu partition using the livecd, install xp on the empty partition and reconfigure grub01:09
rraajjpuppetmaster: Install it on a different partition than the one Windows is using. :)01:09
rraajj*Windows -- Ubuntu01:09
weedarThis is actually the first time I've tried Vista, I'm pleased to report that it is utter crap01:09
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puppetmasteryou don't understand?01:09
sivajisetup means01:10
sivajipuppetmaster01:10
puppetmasterI have now winxp and ubuntu01:10
puppetmasterbut01:10
puppetmasterxp is finished01:10
puppetmasterso01:10
puppetmasterI want to remove xp01:10
puppetmaster& not to remove ubuntu01:11
puppetmasterbut01:11
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puppetmasterWhen I do that I'll have only xp01:11
puppetmasterDid you understanf me now?01:11
sivajixp finished means01:12
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puppetmastermeans it's currupted01:12
puppetmasterit's not working well01:12
sivajiuse qtparted and remove the partition where u have xp installed01:12
weedarjust reinstall xp and use a boot-cd later to re-install grub01:12
sivajiu want do delete xp partitions now01:13
puppetmasterI know that but when I do that I'll have neither ubuntu nor windows01:13
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puppetmasterhow to reinstall grub01:14
sivajiweedar how to install grup loader separately01:14
puppetmasterI have now ubuuntu 7.0401:14
sivajipuppetmaster  u want do delete xp partitions now01:14
puppetmasterbut firstly I had ubuntu 6,10 and I upgraded01:14
puppetmasterIs that a problem?01:15
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puppetmasterSO01:15
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weedarWell, if Ubuntu is installed you have grub installed already. If you boot from a ubuntu-cd later you can re-install grub01:16
puppetmasterfrom any version01:16
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puppetmasterI have the 6.10 live cd01:17
puppetmasterbut now I have 7.04 installed01:18
puppetmasterCould I use 6.10 to setup 7.04?01:18
puppetmasterThe grub01:18
weedarsure01:18
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weedarthis might be helpful: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html01:18
puppetmasterI have a silly question/01:19
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puppetmasterWhat do you think about suse 10.2?01:19
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sivaji2009kubuntu is best forever01:20
weedarI haven't used suse in years, I hear good things - but I still think kubuntu is a better distro (or I wouldn't be here ;)01:20
puppetmasteryou know something guys01:20
sivaji2009what01:21
puppetmasterI agree with you01:21
puppetmasterThere was no such support like this in any destrib ever01:21
puppetmasterYou are great realy01:21
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puppetmasterBut01:22
puppetmasterMost people prefer windows to linux and I disagree01:22
puppetmasterYou know Why?01:22
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sivaji2009puppetmaster because they are not coming forward to learn new thing01:23
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weedarBecause Windows is slow, insecure and buggy?01:23
puppetmasterbecause windows is easier that's what they said01:23
puppetmasteryes sure01:23
puppetmasterLinux is better in all the ways01:24
puppetmasterthey don't know it yet01:24
weedarAs long as your hardware is supported Kubuntu is usually easier to use than Windows01:24
puppetmasterWeeder01:24
puppetmasterabout multimedia01:24
puppetmasterI have an issue01:24
weedarI setup a computer for my brother and in Windows you had to find the drivers for almost everything, after I installed Kubuntu everything worked out-of-the-box =)01:24
puppetmasterI can't play rmvb files01:25
waylandbillwindows seems easier to people that only have used windows. That's natuarally the case with anything.01:25
sivaji2009weedar ple tell me how to install grup loader separately01:25
weedarI agree waylandbill01:25
puppetmasterI agree too01:25
weedarsivaji2009, did you read the link I pasted? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html01:25
puppetmasterthey don't have an open mind01:25
sivaji2009sorry i didnt see i am chatting with someother person01:26
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puppetmasterhey guys01:26
puppetmasterI have an important question01:27
waylandbillI built gtkpod from source (apt-get source) so that I could have m4v transfer support for my Ipod Video. Adept Notifier wants to use the distribution package rather than my package. Can I somehow tell Apt that I want my source built one always?01:27
puppetmaster What do you prefer the most?01:27
sivaji2009!ask | puppetmaster01:27
ubotupuppetmaster: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:27
puppetmasterok sorry01:27
puppetmasterGnome or KDE01:27
sivaji2009kde01:28
puppetmasterSome guys say: windows users use kde & mac users use gnome01:28
llp78its personal opinion01:28
puppetmasterWhy did you choose kde01:28
waylandbillThat question is only important to the user of the system at the time and noone else really.01:28
puppetmasterok guys01:29
puppetmasterthanks for the help01:29
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puppetmasterI have to go>>>>Bye>>>>01:29
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tom__aanyone played with virtualgl?01:36
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Sk-etch\01:41
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GrahamHey, I've got a problem with my monitor, I'm having trouble setting it up. For some reason the top of the monitor is darker than the bottom, it's an LCD samsung syncmaster 172v01:41
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mike_Good morning, everybody01:45
sivaji2009how to check my processor speed01:45
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mike_Can someone point me in the right direction for enabling my dial-up modem?01:46
ompaul!modem | mike_01:46
ubotumike_: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto01:46
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ompaulsivaji2009, Applications - Accessories - Terminal and in there type>>      less /proc/cpuinfo01:47
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mike_I installed restricted-manager already, and the driver for it is installed and enabled, but it says it's "not in use"01:47
llp78sivaji2009: "cat /proc/cpuinfo"01:47
mike_ompaul: Thanks01:47
ompaulmike_, System Administration Network and click on your modem and say enable device01:48
llp78sivaji2009: or "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name'"01:48
sivaji2009cpu MHz         : 1004.826  but my speed is 2.8Ghz01:48
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ompaulsivaji2009, so it is cpu scaling you got a few to go :)01:49
ompaulsivaji2009, i.e. it is like an F1 car on a tight bend - not running flat out01:49
llp78talking of f1 whens it on today01:49
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llp78must go n check01:50
sivaji2009ompaul thank u01:50
thoreauputichi ompaul :)01:50
ompaulsivaji2009, you are welcome01:50
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mike_ompaul: In KControl, that would be Internet & Network -> Network Settings, right? (Sorry, I don't use the regular System Settings tool and have consequently lost the command for it)01:52
ompaulmike_, sorry I did not notice I was in kubuntu ... ;-)01:52
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ompaulmike_, ya it would be in that region01:52
mike_ompaul: No problem :-)01:52
mike_ompaul: It's not listed there01:52
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mike_My modem, I mean01:53
sivaji2009ompaul  i have grub loader boot file in floppy disk  i think it is better to have a backup but i cant copy one file from floppy disk to hd01:53
jonoheh01:53
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ompauljono, please it is hehe :)01:53
mike_modem isn't in /dev either. -_~01:53
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weedarAnyone feel like recommending how big I should make my linux partition?01:53
ompaulmike_, hmm ain't done a modem in a lonnnnng time01:54
ompaulall ethernet these days01:54
mike_Same here. (Setting up my grandmother's laptop)01:54
sivaji2009ompaul i have grub loader boot file in floppy disk  i think it is better to have a backup but i cant copy one file from floppy disk to hd01:54
ompaul!grub | sivaji200901:55
ubotusivaji2009: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:55
ompaulsivaji2009, that is the best I can do01:55
ompaulI have to do a little job here back soon01:55
mike_weedar: Depends on how much stuff you want on it. I'd suggest 6GB at the very least01:55
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mike_weedar: If you plan on installing a lot of games and other programs that take up a lot of memory, maybe somewhere more in the neighborhood of 10GB01:56
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mike_space*01:56
birdofpreyhello everybody. I'd like to install kubuntu and dual boot between windows. as I understand there's no way to launch kubuntu from the windows bootloader. The other way arround I'd need to play with my master boot sector. I can't backup all my data right now so... this option is not viable right now. I came up with an idea though. Is there a way to modify GRUB on a rewritable cd so that it boots kubuntu installed on a certain partition ?01:56
llutzhi01:56
drknshello hows everyone01:56
weedarmike_, in that case I think I'll go for 10GB. I tend to underestimate how much space I need when installing Kubuntu :)01:56
drknsneither amarok nor kaffein wants to start it just jumps up and down and nothing01:57
drknsthey both used to work01:57
drknswhats wrong counld someone helppls01:57
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llutzbirdofprey: win-bootloader can boot grub01:57
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mike_weedar: If you're tight on space, you might consider replacing OpenOffice w/ KOffice. That takes off about a quarter gig.01:57
rraajjdrkns: Try running them using the command line. There should be something wrong.01:57
drknshow should i just write their names?01:58
rraajjdrkns: You could go paste in one of 'em pastebins the error that the konsole would output.01:58
rraajjdrkns: Yep, just type kaffeine or amarok.01:58
rraajjdrkns: Then take note of the console output.01:58
llutzbirdofprey: install kubuntu, let install grub into root-partition. copy the partition-bootrecord to your win-installation and modify the boot.ini. more info on google or forums01:59
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drknswell nothing happens02:00
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rraajjdrkns: No output or anything?02:00
drknsit just moved to the scond line and nothing very interesting02:00
drknsno out put02:00
drknsboth amarok and kaffein02:00
drknsalso mplayer as well02:01
rraajjdrkns: Wow. That's... Weird.02:01
drknsthats really weird02:01
llp78i take it video output works ok?02:01
rraajjdrkns: Try removing then reinstalling them, then.02:02
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drknsbut when i remove em it also removes kde02:02
drknsand i dont wanna mess with KDE02:02
rraajjdrkns: You mean kubuntu-desktop?02:02
birdofpreyllutz from what I've read, ms made sure it's bootloader won't boot grub... copying the partition bootrecor ? how ? wouldn't it be more _secure_ to have grub on cd and the rest of ubuntu on the hdd ?02:02
drknsyep02:02
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rraajjdrkns: kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, it's okay to remove it.02:03
llutzbirdofprey: you can do it that way, but windows versions up to XP can boot it like described too02:03
weedarmike_, thanks for the tips02:03
rraajjdrkns: You could remove kaffeine and amarok, then reinstall them using: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.02:03
mike_weedar: No problem02:03
llutzbirdofprey: no idea what vista does, never had seen/used one02:03
drknsi am not an experienced user i once removed it and had to reinstall everything02:03
birdofpreyi'm not talking about vista, i'm talking about xp, and I read, that the windows bootloader won't properly chainload grub02:04
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drknsi will try removing amarok lets do it then02:04
llutzbirdofprey: to copy the bootrecord: let's say your root-partition = /dev/hda5, then: dd if=/dev/hda5 of=/tmp/bootrecord count=102:04
drknsthx02:04
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mike_weedar: Probably obvious, but installing any GNOME apps is going to take a lot more space than installing the KDE equivalent. Not sure exactly how much space the essential GNOME/GTK libs take up, but I'd image it's quite a bit02:05
payamhow can i install that Fucking Wine?02:06
rraajjpayam: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb02:06
mike_sudo apt-get install wine02:06
sivaji2009how to find my root partition02:06
mike_payam: Run that from a terminal02:06
payamThanks02:06
weedarmike_, that I did not know :) I would've thought KDE-apps were more diskspace-hungry02:06
payamHow can I install a WEbcamera on kubuntu?02:07
llutzbirdofprey:  you read wrong :) xp does well that way02:07
birdofpreyllutz, I have only a few hours of linux behind me, and I think it's sda5 in my case. anyhow, sounds too risky02:07
simon__how do i mount a usb drive with ntfs file system thyanks02:07
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llutzbirdofprey: it's not that dangerous, but you still have to be carefull02:08
payammike_, How can i install a webcamera on my kubuntu?02:08
mike_Maybe on an app-by-app basis, but if you only have KDE installed, installing one single GNOME/GTK app is going to take up a lot of space because it has to have all of those libs02:08
sivaji2009simon__ usb drive will be mounted automatically02:08
mike_payam: Sorry, I have no experience with webcams. Have you searched the forums?02:08
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payamYes02:08
payamIm realy tierd av it02:08
simon__it does mount but is not shown in any file folder02:08
sivaji2009payam try #ubuntu02:08
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payamI dont understans beacuas im a bigginer02:09
mike_payam: You might try googling the brand and model # of your webcam and "ubuntu"02:09
payamI just realy tierd . nobody know how to Installa a webcam02:09
rraajjpayam: I think Kopete has support for a variety of webcams. (at least, I think)02:09
sivaji2009payam "/join #ubuntu"02:09
llutzbirdofprey: do you use floppy disks? then there is a very easy method to boot grub from that (easier than cd-burning)02:09
payamI just wana take pictures of myself bot ubuntu02:09
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payamI dont wana chatt with that by  kopete02:10
rraajjpayam: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras?highlight=%28camera%29%7C%28web%2902:11
birdofpreyllutz no I don't even have a floppy drive. i'm right now googling the posibility of using boot.ini to load ubuntu...02:12
payamrraajj, i saw that list. my cam is02:12
payamLogitech02:12
payam   QuickCam Pro 400002:12
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payamBut how can i installa Derive for it02:12
payamwhat should i do to begin use it?02:13
rraajjHere is the entry for QuickCam Pro 4000: "Works out of the box on 6.06, 6.10 and 7.04, just need a program like Camorama etc. to use it. "02:13
birdofpreyllutz, what difference it would make ? floppy, cd... they are both just removable bootable media...02:13
rraajjpayam: Try installing camorama, then. sudo apt-get install camorama02:13
mike_ompaul: Are you still in here?02:14
llutzbirdofprey: its easier (imho) to bring the bootrecord to floppy than to cd.02:15
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llutzbirdofprey: maybe this helps: http://jaeger.morpheus.net/linux/ntldr.php02:15
ompaulmike_, kind of - rather busy trying to make something work02:15
payamrraajj, shoul i  download .Deb file or that isnt a matter?02:15
nbcbis there a partitioner in kubuntu that is graphical?02:16
rraajjpayam: camorama is in the repos. You could just issue a "sudo apt-get install camorama" to install it.02:16
nbcbharddisk partition02:16
sivaji2009nbcb qtparted02:16
payamrraajj. I dont undrastan what you mena02:16
sivaji2009nbcb "sudo aptitude install qtparted"02:16
llutzbirdofprey: "sudo dd if=/dev/sda5 of=/dev/fd0 count=1"  and a floppy would be ready. but useless without floppy-drive :(02:16
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payamShouk i download it?02:17
rraajjpayam: Oh, sorry... Go open up a terminal.02:17
payamok02:17
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nbcbi need to install windows, i've got 2 harddisk.. now i'm on kubuntu.. can i install the windows on the 2nd harddisk?02:17
rraajjThen type "sudo apt-get install camorama"02:17
payamand?02:17
hammeri'm a DJ  cat /dev/input/mouse0  >> /dev/dsp02:17
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main2after my system comes out of standby, it sometimes goes into standby again (after it fulyl came back to the desktop)02:17
Chousukehammer: :P02:17
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main2is this a known problem?02:17
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rraajjIf it asks you for a password, just type in your password and press enter.02:17
sivaji2009nbcb no i it will replace grub loader u cant linux02:17
sivaji2009nbcb no i it will replace grub loader u cant use linux02:17
payamI know that02:17
weedarmain2, I've always had trouble with standby-mode & linux :/02:18
nbcbi thought grub is on the first harddisk?02:18
nbcbo02:18
payamand then?02:18
main2weedar, well.. you need to tweak it a bit some times to get it working properly :)02:18
weedarhammer: nice =)02:18
main2thats why im asking wether there is a remedy to stop it from going into standby twice02:18
sivaji2009nbcb grub will be replaced by windows loader02:18
rraajjpayam: Just say yes (if it prompts you), then enter. Then wait until it is finished.02:18
payamrraajj, and then?02:18
weedarmain2, on my previous laptop the touchpad would stop working, guess I could have fixed it somehow02:19
sivaji2009nbcb https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:19
payamits finish02:19
nbcbcan i install grub again using kubuntu live cd?02:19
main2yes02:19
main2nbcb,02:19
sivaji2009nbcb https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:19
main2start the livecd02:19
rraajjpayam: Try running camorama now. If I'm not mistaken, it should be under the "Multimedia" menu.02:19
mike_!grub > nbcb02:19
main2nbcb, i done it number of times02:19
mike_err02:19
mike_!grub02:19
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:19
rraajjpayam: Either there, or under "Graphics".02:19
nbcb./dev/hda4              33G   22G  9.6G  70% /usr <-- can i change this /usr into /dev/hda3 instead?02:19
llutzmain2: that often happens when suspening on lid-close and the acpi-event isn't recognized correct02:19
payamwhats the name?02:20
rraajjpayam: Camorama.02:20
mike_nbcb: It walks you through it on one of those02:20
main2llutz, im talking about a desktop here.. :)02:20
llutzmain2: then pressing the power-button is intrepreted as: go to standby :(02:20
main2imho every kubu install should have kpowersave installed btw..02:20
payamGraphic menu02:20
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llutzmain2: happens with suspend on pwr-btn too02:20
rraajjpayam: Found it yet?02:20
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payamyes02:20
rraajjpayam: Okay, you could try it now. :)02:20
main2llutz, i got suspend under my powerbutton yes02:21
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main2suspend to ram (s3)02:21
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birdofpreyllutz, i need to learn about it first. the main problem is that I understand only about half or less of those comands... i'm running xp now... i'm glad it can be done... i need good documentation before though...02:23
Panda200xhttp://wubuntu.weejewel.net/ < Anyone seen this yet?02:24
main2llutz,  seems like a lot of users need to disable 'save vbe state' and 'post video' to get S3 standby working02:24
main2this wasnt nessacary on my 64bit feisty install :P, weird huh02:25
llutzmain2: linux + suspending is a .... neverending story. there's hardware suspending out of the box and other never will (like mine) :(02:25
main2but the 'system goes back into standy after if fully resumed' problem was the same02:25
llutzmain2: for your issue: try not to hold the pwr-btn pressed too long when resuming02:26
main2llutz, i feel like im soooo close ;D02:26
llutzmain2: i felt that close years ago, never reached02:26
main2llutz, i just very gently touch it..02:26
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main2llutz, would be very cool if i can use it.. when i go get a coffee/ stay away for 15min, its more profitable to use standby02:27
main2then to turn it on/off02:27
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llutzmain2: sure it is02:27
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main2support the climate, support S3 standby! ;D02:27
llutzsupport the climate, switch OFF!02:28
puppetmasterHi everyone02:28
puppetmasterWhen I tried to install gstreamer02:28
main2llutz, im using up all energy i can atm, because we're running out of oil anyway02:28
main2and it gets more expensive by the minute02:28
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main2:P02:28
puppetmasterit gives me this message:Could not find bison02:28
puppetmasterCould not find bisonWhat should I do/02:28
chris__what is the best FTP client?02:28
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chris__there areso much around...02:29
puppetmasterSO02:29
main2vsftp02:29
main2o client, sorry02:29
llutzchris__: lftp02:29
chris__alright02:30
chris__thanks02:30
puppetmasterPlease anyone help02:30
llutzchris__: but even konqueror works well with ftp02:30
chris__really?02:30
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chris__mykonqerro refuses to browse the web anyway...02:31
chris__lot of people seem to have this problem02:31
llutzchris__: with the kio-slaves konqueror does nearly everthing :)02:31
puppetmasterSO02:31
birdofpreyllutz, thank you02:31
llutzbirdofprey: np, in that  link i gave you, just the last part is usefull for you. but that describes all you need to do02:32
chris__filezilla?02:32
llutzbirdofprey: forget about all that lilo-stuff02:32
chris__i used to use this when i was a M$ geek02:33
llutzchris__: then go on using it02:33
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birdofpreyllutz, I know, people are working on the next version of grub already... so, soon I could forget about GRUB too..02:34
llutzbirdofprey: you always will need a type of bootmanager on multi-boot-systems02:35
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birdofpreyllutz, of course I will... what I meant is that's going to be GRUB 2 in the future...02:36
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llutzbirdofprey: but what do you hope grub2 does, grub doesn't?02:37
hendaussivaji2009 wb02:38
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chris__anyone knows how to completely format the HD's02:38
chris__when installing linux it keeps a part in m$ system files...02:39
birdofpreywell, anything. you said I should forget about lilo. i just added, I know i should, it's old, and ubuntu uses grub anyhow. but grub is starting to show it's age aswell since grub2 is a work in progress already.02:39
sivaji2009hendaus hi02:41
llutzbirdofprey: ah i c. forgetting lilo was in reference to that url.02:41
hendaussivaji2009 hoiw are you02:41
sivaji2009 hendaus fine come to yahoo02:42
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ardchoilleBack in a bit, time to image this hard drive :)02:48
main2can i use suspension/standby without kpowersave?02:49
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PF-Awaymain2: I believe so02:49
sfireI believe so also... don't quote me on it though02:50
main2lol.. but how do i tell the acpi system that my powerbt should be used for 'suspend to ram' (s3) then?02:50
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optixhmm - anyone ever seen Kubuntu "misread" a ping result?02:51
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main2optix, what do you mean?02:51
PF-Awaymain2: that you might have to use kpowersave for02:51
PF-Awayoptix: explain02:51
PF-Awaydhcp-fallback-wise?02:51
optixI have 2 machines - one is an Intel Mac Mini02:51
optixand the other one is a Dell laptop running Feisty02:51
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main2PF-Away, after my system fully resumes from standby -> i can use it, then 2sec later it goes in standby again02:51
optixthe Mac Mini can reach x destination in 50ms02:52
PF-Awayfunny02:52
main2then when i press my power button again, it comes back........ fully02:52
optixyet the Kubuntu laptop gets to the same destination in 150ms02:52
optixeverything is the same (same 4 port router, etc.)02:52
main2the /etc/acpi/suspend.d scripts use a lock in /var/lock/02:52
main2but kpowersave doesnt seem to do so :/02:52
optixI'm wondering what could cause that02:53
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PF-Awayoptix: try with different flags on the ping02:54
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PF-Away-r maybe, to bypass the routing table02:54
optixnetwork is unreachable :(02:54
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kain_any good apache/php packages for kubuntu02:54
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PF-Away!info apache2 | kain_02:55
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ubotukain_: apache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3.2build1 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 84 kB02:55
kain_something that looks like xampp on win xp/longhorn for kubuntu02:55
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PF-Away!info php5 | kain_02:55
ubotukain_: php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.1-0ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB02:55
PF-Awaykain_: what do you mean?02:55
kain_xampp.org02:55
kain_lampp02:55
PF-Awaykain_: just install what you need02:56
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weedaryou don't need xampp on linux, at least not kubuntu - getting a lamp-setup is easy as pie02:57
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PF-Awayhttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-lamp-server-setup.html02:58
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kain_ok well then how do i install on kubuntu 7.4 and start the services and set then up to run on boot i just switched to linux/kubuntu 7.4 from longhorn on a new laptop that ran like shit now it runs seriously 10 times faster with kubuntu03:00
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kain_i don't need any sql or anything else03:01
sfiresee the above link03:02
kain_but when i switch my server over i will need mail etc for several domains and dns server etc03:02
sfirehttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-lamp-server-setup.html03:02
PF-Awaykain_: if you want to install a webserver, install "apache2" in Adept03:03
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PF-Awaykain_: it will be configured automatically/should be03:03
PF-AwayPF-Away: install php5 for php support03:03
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epimethPF-Away: don't you need to install apache-mod-libphp5 as well?  (or something like it)03:19
PF-Awayepimeth: I thought it got installed automagically, but I might be wrong, as I use Lighttpd03:19
PF-Away(which I wholeheartedly recommend, btw)03:19
PF-Awaymuch smaller footprint, and a breeze to set up03:19
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sfireapache isn't all *that* hard03:20
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PF-Awaybut it's all *that* heavy;)03:20
PF-AwayI don't care for a full-blown apache install just to do some web-app developing;)03:21
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main2https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11969603:33
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kain_all i do is web developing03:36
main2uhhhh yes, and?03:36
kain_i haven't a lot lately because of my other job and my back is fucked and i just switched to kubuntu and still can't get my wifi to connect to open networks in some places03:37
kain_trying to get my phone to work with linux as a wi-fi modem03:37
kain_i hate windows03:37
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kain_switching my pda to linux is my last step is completely severing myself from windows03:38
main2kain_, looks like you got some serious problems bro03:38
kain_it sucks when other people put you in pain for life03:39
waylandbillI have a t-shirt that says "I don't do Windows".03:39
kain_nice03:40
waylandbillI can't say that I particularly hate Windows. Prefer not to use it is probably more accurate.03:40
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main2waylandbill, same here :)03:41
PF-AwayI don't like it either, but I have to know it;)03:42
PF-Awayand that sucks more than enough;)03:42
ardchoillewaylandbill: I'm happy to say that I hate Windows with a passion. If I can't use Linux on a computer (either installed or livecd), then I won't use that computer :)03:42
PF-AwayI'm just waiting for the day when Microsoft collapses/implodes, and Windows knowledge will be a thing of the past;)03:43
ardchoilleIndeed03:43
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masterkhi, i'm a nooblet... I need help03:44
PF-Awayand with their frantic patent huffing and puffing, it seems they know it's coming soon;)03:44
ardchoillelol @ nooblet03:44
PF-Awaymasterk: ask, and I will answer (or someone else)03:44
masterkI need to figure out how to make my computer run faster03:44
PF-Awaymasterk: use Xubuntu03:44
masterkI am running a p3 processor03:45
PF-Awaymasterk: or use Arch Linux03:45
BluesKajardchoille, why so hateful... windows works ok, it's just not real secure ...linux works better when you get it right of course , but i don't understand the ' hate ' thing.03:45
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ardchoillemasterk: You might look into using a light window manager instead of a full desktop.. doing this made my old PII run quite fast. For more window managers, see:  http://xwinman.org03:45
masterkI used xubuntu on my old laptop, it did run quite well03:45
PF-AwayBluesKaj: it's eveel03:45
wsjuniordoes anybody know instructions to configure tv-out for ati cards?03:46
masterkyes but I just love kde03:46
PF-Away!gatos03:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:46
BluesKajwsjunior, tv out ?03:46
wsjuniori'm using fglrx03:46
ardchoilleBluesKaj: If M$ knew how to respect people and follow the law, I wouldn't be so hateful ;)03:46
BluesKajwhat's the tv tuner03:46
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BluesKaj?03:46
wsjunioryes, i want to configure the svideo03:46
sfireardchoille: they will respect you... if you have a billion or 2 to spend03:47
masterkthanks I'll look into the window managers03:47
ardchoillelol03:47
BluesKajwhich tv tuner are you using wsjunior?03:47
PF-AwayBluesKaj: don't need a tv-tuner for tv out03:47
wsjuniorto watch movies on tv,, tv out dude, something like twin view for nvidia cards03:47
PF-Away(in/out)03:47
PF-Awaywsjunior: what kind of card do you have?03:48
wsjuniorati xpress 200M03:48
fsheroIf Windows were Free/open source, I would support it.03:48
ardchoilleBluesKaj: http://imacgregor.com/Linux/WhatIsLinux#toc603:48
fsherolol, that'll won't happen for a long time, if ever03:48
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PF-Awaywsjunior: if it isn't set up automagically, you could try to follow this guide: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_TV-Out03:48
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PF-Awayit's for gentoo, but I don't think it's that different03:48
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wsjuniorlets see if it cover ati cards..03:49
masterkhi, my friend is like really noob, like me... she has vista on her laptop but vista makes her laptop run slow and she can't install XP on her laptop because there are no XP drivers for her hardware... what should she do? switch to linux or...?03:49
BluesKajardchoille, i don't need to read that, I already know that linux stuff is free03:49
PF-Awaymasterk: of course;)03:49
sfirethere are always XP drivers03:49
sfirenot to discurage you from linux03:49
PF-Awaymasterk: try a LiveCD to see if the hardware is supported03:49
masterkI seriously tried to find the xp drivers for the wireless and couldn't find any03:50
sfirethey exist03:50
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PF-Awaysfire: how so?03:50
sfirebut you'll have the same problem with linux03:50
PF-Awaysfire: not so03:50
waylandbillI have Xpress 200M. Just follow the Binary how-to.03:50
sfireyou have to have the windows drivers to get the wireless card to work in linux03:50
PF-Awaysfire: bullcrap03:51
PF-Awaymasterk: don't listen to sfire03:51
PF-Awaysfire: there's lots of native drivers for linux03:51
sfirethats how mine is... dell inspiron 640m03:51
masterkacer 3600 is her laptop03:51
PF-Awaysfire: if there isn't any native linux drivers, you can use the windows drivers03:51
masterkno 368003:51
dazjorzHeh03:51
PF-Awaymasterk: as I said, try a live c03:51
PF-Awayd03:51
wsjuniorwaylandbill: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_TV-Out#ATI-proprietary-drivers03:52
wsjuniorwaylandbill: thanks :)03:52
dazjorzAre the Canonical people planning to make a Kedubuntu anytime soon? :P03:52
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masterkso maybe I should try knoppix or kubuntus live mode?03:52
wsjuniordazjorz: don't think so03:52
PF-Awaymasterk: yeah, or plain ubuntu03:52
PF-Awaymasterk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39266603:53
PF-Awaymasterk: is that the same as hers?03:53
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masterkpf-away: yes but my worry is that shes not as tech savy as I am soshe might give up on linux after a while03:55
PF-Awaymasterk: from what I see, it should work rather perfectly03:55
sfiremy GF liked it for a while03:55
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PF-Awaymasterk: just set it up, and it will run forever (more or less;)03:55
sfireuntil she got took some online college classes03:55
PF-AwayI set up plain ubuntu (6.06) for a girl here about a year ago, and she's still happily using it03:56
PF-Awayon a laptop03:56
masterkok do you think I can do it in 2 hours time?03:56
PF-Awayher ipod, text documents, everything worked just fine03:56
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PF-Awaymasterk: yes03:56
masterkwith downloading time?03:56
masterkand install?03:56
PF-Awaymasterk: hmm... more doubtfull03:57
PF-Away;)03:57
PF-Awaydepends on your pipe03:57
sfiregot FiOS?03:57
masterkno, I wish03:57
masterkif she did I would sleep on her roof03:57
sfirehehehehe03:57
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PF-Away:P03:57
sfireI've got it at home03:57
binksafternoon all03:58
masterkso how do I burn iso in linux?03:58
sfireK3B03:58
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PF-AwayK-Menu -> Multimedia -> K3B03:58
binksanyone had problems with amarok not loading i did a reinstall but still the same (fiesty btw)03:58
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PF-Awayno03:58
binks!iso03:58
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ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.03:58
amin81hi everyone!03:59
binksmasterk: | !burning03:59
amin81need help, I cannot get online with my comp03:59
amin81when using linuz03:59
amin81linux03:59
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sfireamin81: wireless?03:59
PF-Awayamin81: modem, adsl...?03:59
masterkwhich is edge?03:59
masterknumber wise?03:59
amin81sfire no03:59
PF-Awaymasterk: 6.10?04:00
binksamin81: static or dhcp04:00
amin81PF-Away: lan connection04:00
PF-Awayamin81: dhcp?04:00
amin81PF-Away: yes04:00
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amin81PF-Away: or hold on, I think it is static. not sure04:00
amin81PF-Away: Rysiek knows about my problem04:01
masterkI see downloads for dapper and feisty only04:01
masterkno edgy04:01
PF-Away[16:04]  [Error]  rysiek: No such nick/channel.04:01
PF-Awaymasterk: why do you want edgy?04:01
sfire/whowas rysiek04:01
amin81PF-Away: He managed to help me get online but now the internetprovider has changed the router04:01
PF-Away[16:04]  [406]  rysiek There was no such nickname04:02
masterkbecause the guide is for edgy04:02
amin81PF-Away: so all the numbers have changed such as bcast, inet etc04:02
PF-Awayamin81: do you know the ip, etc. of the router?04:02
amin81PF-Away: I have found some numbers such as inet addre, Bcast, mask and default gateway04:02
PF-Awayamin81: the ones for the new router settings?04:03
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amin81PF-Away: yes04:03
PF-Awayamin81: go to System Settings -> Network Settings, click on administrator button04:04
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amin81PF-Away: I will give you the old command we wrote in network interfaces04:05
PF-Awayah, ok04:05
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amin81PF-Away: where can I post it`04:06
PF-Away!paste | amin8104:06
ubotuamin81: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:06
amin81PF-Away: thank you04:06
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sp1nanybody know feisty repository with trix (chat client)?04:07
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amin81PF-Away: here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24993/04:08
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amin81PF-Away: I tried to make my own one but it wont let me get online04:09
amin81let me post that also04:09
PF-Awayamin81: is that a script?04:09
amin81PF-Away: dont ask me, all I know is that line got me online before :) (sorry, linux noob)04:10
sfireI think I see why04:10
sfireyou use 2 different networks right?04:10
PF-Awayamin81: why not just use the default tools?04:10
masterkhow do I create folders via prompt?04:10
amin81sfire: no04:10
amin81sfire: that line worked before04:10
sfirehmmm... then I'm clueless04:10
PF-Awaymasterk: mkdir04:10
PF-Awayamin81: where did you get what you pasted from?04:11
amin81sfire: now the internetprovider has changed the router because the old router was not fast enough04:11
amin81sfire: so all the numbers have also changed04:11
masterkthanks04:11
sfireamin81: your new router is a 192.168.1 network? or 192.168.0 ?04:11
amin81sfire: no that is my old router04:11
amin81the new numbers are different04:11
sfireand I'm asking about the new one04:11
amin8110.11.0.25404:12
sfireahhhh ha04:12
amin81i think04:12
sfirewhat make/model router?04:12
masterkhow do I delete directories via prompt?04:12
sfirerm -rf /directory/name/04:12
amin81sfire: i dont know as it is not my router04:12
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amin81sfire: it is the internetprovider's04:12
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PhinnFortbleh... knetworkmanager04:13
PhinnFortamin81: it doesn't use dhcp?04:13
PhinnFortamin81: go to system settings -> network settings04:13
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wsjuniorwho said got tv-out working on ati xpress 200m?04:15
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amin81PhinnFort: ok04:15
amin81PhinnFort: then?04:15
PhinnFortamin81: then click on the administrator button04:15
PhinnFortso you get administrator access04:15
wsjuniori configured like gentoo wiki said but still didnt got it working :/04:15
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wsjuniorjust a blue screen on tv04:15
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amin81PhinnFort: done04:15
PhinnFortamin81: what is eth0 set as?04:15
PhinnFortamin81: automatic or static?04:16
amin81automatic04:16
sfiredo you have a eth1 ?04:16
PhinnFortamin81: and the router doesn't have dhcp enabled?04:16
PhinnFortsfire: his wireless04:16
amin81sfire: yes but not using it04:16
Kozzicam some1 help to install this : http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDesktop+transparency+support?content=5986404:16
Kozzi?04:16
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PhinnFortamin81: what IP-address is currently assigned to eth0?04:16
sfiremy computer came with 2 ethernet interfaces built onboard... possibly his does too?04:16
amin8110.11.0.24504:16
amin81PhinnFort: why do you need that?04:17
PhinnFortamin81: to know what subnet it is assigned to04:17
amin81PhinnFort: ok04:17
PhinnFortamin81: do you know the IP of the router?04:17
PhinnFortis it 10.11.0.1?04:17
hydhhi i have to compile something and gcc complains that socket.h could not be found? what should i do know?04:17
amin81PhinnFort: i dont think so04:17
PhinnFortamin81: are you behind that router on your current machine?04:17
wsjuniorcould anybody help me to get tv-out working?04:18
amin81PhinnFort: i tried to ping that address without success04:18
PhinnFort(the one you are chatting from?)04:18
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amin81PhinnFort: yes04:18
PhinnFortamin81: is it a windows machine?04:18
amin81PhinnFort: yes04:18
PhinnFortamin81: run "ipconfig /all" in a cmd04:18
PhinnFortshell04:18
binksanyone no how to debug amarok to check why it fails to start up04:18
PhinnFortwin+r, type "cmd", hit enter04:18
PhinnFortbinks: run it from a konsole?04:19
binksi did it hangs with no output04:19
amin81PhinnFort: what numbers do you need?04:19
PhinnFortbinks: try running amarokapp04:19
PhinnFortamin81: does it say gateway?04:19
binksPhinnFort: arr cheers04:19
amin81PhinnFort: standard?04:19
PhinnFortyeah04:19
PhinnFortamin81: also the IP would be nice04:20
amin81PhinnFort: yes, 10.11.0.25404:20
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PhinnFortamin81: on the KUbuntu machine, go to the routes tab and see what's there04:20
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amin81PhinnFort: 0.0.0.004:20
PhinnFortamin81: replace it with "10.11.0.254"04:21
PhinnFortamin81: then hit apply and try to connect to internet04:21
PhinnFortkonqueror or something04:21
binksPhinnFort: this is the error i get but im no hack any ideas http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24994/04:21
amin81PhinnFort: i will have to log off for a while, brb04:22
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PhinnFortamin81: ok04:22
PhinnFortbinks: it seems to start okay04:22
binksi get no amarok at all04:22
PhinnFortbinks: but I need to go soon (it's getting very hot here, so I need to turn off my computer and go outside, once amin81 has his network working)04:22
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PhinnFort:D04:22
PhinnFortbinks: try asking in #kde04:22
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sfirebinks: did it work before?04:23
binksPhinnFort: me real real bad its started but in the tray sorry04:23
PhinnFortmight be more knowledgeable people in there04:23
binksPhinnFort: thanks again04:23
PhinnFortnp04:23
sfirebinks: when it quit working for me I just deleted its configuration file04:23
sfirewhen it re-created it, it worked fine04:23
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binkswhere is the config file sfire04:24
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PhinnFortbinks: .kde/share/apps/amarok04:24
binksPhinnFort: cheers04:24
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sfire/home/username/.kde/share/config04:24
PhinnFortor there04:24
PhinnFortamarokrc04:24
binksi got what you meant :)04:25
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PhinnFortmeh... too hot04:26
sfirehe must be in florida also04:26
sfirelol04:26
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DexterFheya04:27
masterkhow do I open a udf cd?04:27
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DexterFI just installed baghira to have its sidebar, but I'd like whatever colors/style+settings were default. just can't figure it04:27
bertholdizI need help. When i use the computer its sometimes stopping completley and grinds my hdd to an insane degree.04:27
masterkmy friend just like burned a cd in vista04:28
bertholdizthen after its done with whatever it does, it continues as normal04:28
masterkand now I can't open it here in kubuntu04:28
masterkit says it can't mount the volume04:28
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bertholdizanyone got an idea how to solve my problem?04:31
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DexterFbertholdiz: read man mount04:32
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MrBougohi there04:32
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amin81rysiek04:32
MrBougoi installed the ssh package04:32
MrBougoand i was wondering... is there any way to disable the server?04:33
MrBougoi guess so04:33
DexterFbertholdiz: whoops, wrong address, sorry04:33
DexterFthought was you about udf04:33
amin81where did my help go? haha04:33
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DexterFbertholdiz: how long is that grinding action?04:35
DexterFseconds? less then a second?04:35
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bertholdiz30 seconds or so04:35
DexterFhow often?04:35
sfirepossibly fsck?04:36
bertholdizevery 15 minuts atleast, even more if i do stuff04:36
sfireor indexing?04:36
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bertholdizi think its because of my NTFS disk. If i dont have that mounted it becomes an rare occurrance, but when mounted it does it all the time04:37
sfirehave you tried to un-plug it?04:37
bertholdizsfire: yes04:37
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sfirethats when it quits doing it?04:38
bertholdizbut i want the content =(04:38
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bertholdizand my linux disk is only 120gb...04:38
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dcosmin22This PIZZA symbolizes my COMPLETE EMOTIONAL RECOVERY!!04:38
sfireI can't give you any good advice there... I ended up getting a 500 gig external for 95 bucks04:38
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sfireI put all my stuff on that to cart it between computers04:38
krzysztofsom tu jacy polacy04:39
MrBougoerr how can i create an empty file?04:39
bertholdizok sfire thanks still04:39
bertholdizMrBougo: use the command touch04:39
MrBougookay04:39
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bertholdizseems that it does that grinding anyways.. even after removing the disk04:41
BluesKajor create a file on the desktop, by rightclicking and create -whatever04:42
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sfirebertholdiz: could it be a bad drive?04:43
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bertholdizsfire: i dont think it is... its rather new and has worked perfecly til now04:44
blahblahxhi04:44
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BluesKajbert un-mounting the ntfs share might work04:44
bertholdizsfire:  i formated it recently in ext3 to accomodate the linux partition didautomatic partitioning and have a 5gb swap partition04:44
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dcosmin22Someone in DAYTON, Ohio is selling USED CARPETS to a SERBO-CROATIAN!!04:45
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bertholdizBluesKaj: i dont have an ntfs disk in the computer at all now.04:45
bertholdizBluesKaj: i removed it04:45
sfiredcosmin22: that is called recycling04:45
dcosmin22Is the EIGHTIES when they had ART DECO and GERALD McBOING-BOING lunch boxes??04:45
BluesKajno ntfs partition?04:45
blahblahxif i installed kde core, where is it located?04:45
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Arwenblahblahx, /usr/share/doc. kde-core is a metapackage.04:46
jriachihello04:46
BluesKaji still think 5gig swap is ridiculously large04:46
ArwenBluesKaj, LIES04:46
bertholdizBluesKaj:  i know.. Should i remove it and make a smaller one? Does it matter?04:46
jriachihello04:46
BluesKajnot neeeded if you have 2gigs of memory04:47
Arwenbertholdiz, hint: your swap should *never* be less than your physical RAM04:47
ArwenBluesKaj, oh... lol, then yeah04:47
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sfireArwen: never?04:47
Arwensfire, never.04:47
sfireoops... I broke that rule04:47
bertholdizI have 2gb ram04:47
sfireeven with 2 GB?04:47
Arwenyes.04:48
sfireI set it at 768 mb :(04:48
Arwenbecause of suspend-to-disk04:48
sfireso thats why that doesn't work :(04:48
Arwenand because swap is used to cache cruft that hangs around in RAM04:48
DragnslcrOf course, if you have 500 GB of disks, a couple GB for swap doesn't matter much anyway04:48
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Arwen^^ - but a 500 GB disk isn't too reliable anyway04:48
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sfireso hot out I can't stand it04:49
sfiremy laptop is getting so hot I can't touch it04:49
jriachiwhat is the difference between adept and synaptic?04:49
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bertholdizjriachi: QT or GTK04:50
BluesKajnorth ontario is nice this time of yr , sfire04:50
DragnslcrInterface would be about it, I would guess04:50
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sfirejriachi: one has more letters04:50
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BluesKajsynaptic can fix broken pkges , adept can't04:51
sfirereally ??? :o04:51
BluesKajyes04:51
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jriachiwhould it be wise to use synaptic in kubuntu?04:51
bertholdizjriachi: sure04:52
Arwenjriachi, yes04:52
Arwenbecause synaptic > adept04:52
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xerosisJisao: adept and apt-get/aptitude is more than fine04:52
Mr_Pando u know a list of .PAC file for automatic proxy configuration  ?04:52
sfirethats what I've been using04:52
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sfirebut there are several things I can't install due to broken packages04:52
xerosissfire: aptitude usually sorts out breakages for me04:53
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jriachii am coming from debian, so i still used to apt-get... but i am trying to do things in the "kubuntu way"04:53
jriachi:)04:53
GrueTamerapt get is ok, theres this apt get removeall thing that evens out apt get and aptitude04:53
GrueTamerbesides, there is no "kubuntu way"04:54
Arwenapt-get is the best way to do things :-)04:54
GrueTamercompile from source!04:54
ArwenI just call synaptic to search for packages :-\04:54
ArwenGrueTamer, "apt-get source -b package" :-004:54
KartibokHave a great system with Kubuntu......all is fine and dandy but if I leave it for a few hours it just freezes and I need to reboot. Does anyone have any ideas? or are there logs I can view?04:54
BluesKajaptitude is great too, but it has no GUI04:54
KartibokOops Hi all!04:55
ArwenKartibok, syslog, kern.log, and Xorg.0.log04:55
GrueTameraptitude yay04:55
sfireKartibok: possibly just going to "sleep"04:55
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sfireKartibok: have you tried the power button to "wake it up"04:55
Arwenaptitude is confuzzling..04:55
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KartibokArwen: I'm assuming that they should give some good pointers?04:56
Kartiboksfire:04:56
ArwenKartibok, yeah. Of course, a lot of the time, the cause of lockups isn't logged.04:56
Kartiboksfire: No, just tried usingthe keys...as the mouse is fine......04:56
jriachiargh, synaptic is not using my "gtk-qk" style :S04:56
KartibokAlso can't kill get to kill any processses as I can't get up the apps04:57
xerosisjriachi: it's cos it's a root app04:57
Arwenjriachi, yeah, you need to set the qt style as root04:57
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BluesKajmost pplthe default setup is to turn the power off a certain period of time , and you have to configure that in sys/settings/monitor-display/power savings04:57
jriachixerosis: yeah, that makes sense04:58
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KartibokAll - Many thanks lots of good ideas cheers04:58
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jriachifixed style,  (domino style p0wa!!1one)05:01
Daisuke_Ido\o/  finally got an sata cable, got the new hard drive in05:01
sfirethey seriously need to re-consider the price on those sata cables05:02
Daisuke_Idoerr05:02
Daisuke_Idowhy?05:02
sfiretoo darn expensive05:02
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Daisuke_Idoi got a molex to sata power adapter and an sata cable for $505:02
Daisuke_Idolocal pc store05:02
sfirewell thats not too bad05:03
Daisuke_Idosome of the cables are expensive though :\05:03
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sfireget the drive to work?05:03
Daisuke_Idobut this suits me just fine.  now i get the joy of moving mount points around05:03
Daisuke_Idooh yeah, effortlessly05:03
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BluesKajjriachi, ya wany gnome go to #ubuntu...this is kubuntu (KDE)05:03
jriachiBluesKaj: :S ?05:04
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Daisuke_Idonew drive's going to become the new media storage drive, old media storage is going to become music storage, and the old music drive is going to become extra "whatever" space05:05
Daisuke_Idounmount them all and do some shuffling :D05:05
Billiardhey what am i supposed to choose at grub generic or 386?05:05
BluesKaj38605:05
sfiremy largest drive is always the /home/ mount point05:05
sfireI put everything in /home/ for easy backup05:05
main_Someone can tell why in Firefox I can't see PDF printer?05:05
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BilliardBluesKaj ive been using generic, what would that make it do?05:06
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jriachimain_ i think that pdf printer is a kde-applicaation feature only05:06
BluesKajdunno Billiard , depends on what you have installed, maybe nothing on a new install05:06
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jriachibut with "print to file", you can print to Postscript, which is more or less similar05:07
BilliardBluesKaj, so if ive been installing programs with generic are they gonna be messed up if i use 386?05:07
BluesKajno05:07
dcosmindcosmin22 ce faci?05:07
dcosmin22Is the EIGHTIES when they had ART DECO and GERALD McBOING-BOING lunch boxes??05:07
main_Thank's jriachi. But in the last version I have cups (with all printers) working in all applications.05:07
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BluesKajdcosmin22, give up on thatr , it's off topic and no one cares :)05:08
dcosmin22I am a traffic light, and Alan Ginsberg kidnapped my laundry in 1927!05:08
jriachimain_ no idea, then, sorry05:08
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dcosmindcosmin Go Away05:09
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dcosmin22Is it FUN to be a MIDGET?05:10
BluesKaj!ops | dcosmin05:10
ubotudcosmin: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal05:10
bertholdizbloody dagnabit. This must stop... why the heck does the hdd grinds so..05:10
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dcosmin22I have a VISION!  It's a RANCID double-FISHWICH on an ENRICHED BUN!!05:11
BluesKajbertholdiz, was it grinding in windoze ?05:11
bertholdizBluesKaj: nope05:11
bertholdizBluesKaj: an not in BeOS either05:11
naliothdcosmin22: offtopicness should be taken care of in #kubuntu-offtopic05:11
dcosmin22This PIZZA symbolizes my COMPLETE EMOTIONAL RECOVERY!!05:11
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Daisuke_Idothat was perhaps the strangest thing ever to grace these halls05:13
sfirenah05:13
BluesKajbertholdiz, doesn't sound like a healthy HDD :(05:14
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bertholdizBluesKaj: how comes it works soo good in BeOS then?05:14
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sfirenot reading the same sector05:14
bertholdizsfire: aah05:14
nbcbi've a workable windows in harddisk 1, and i remove the harddisk and installed kubuntu on harddisk 205:15
DexterFDaisuke_Ido: sounds like a bot to me05:15
BluesKajdunno , never used BeOS05:15
nbcbnow plug harddisk 2 as master, how do i configure grub to boot windows on harddisk 1?05:15
nbcbis it possible?05:15
BluesKajput BeOS on partition and see if the HDD grinds then05:15
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DexterFwhy does kubuntu never automount my nfs mounts from fstab?05:16
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nbcbanyone knows?05:16
jriachiwhere was the option "allow to resize maximized windows?"05:16
sfirenbcb: man grub05:16
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nbcbwtf?05:16
stevec_wtf??05:17
nbcbthat's a stupid answer back05:17
jriachi(found it: under "moving" in window behaviour)05:17
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Mr_Pani need a list of anonymous proxy.  can u help me ?05:18
sfirenbcb: you need to modify the grub configuration file then run the grub application to update it05:18
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sercikHi!05:18
ArwenMr_Pan, nope05:19
serciki'm sorry to all ubuntu people, because i have installed and used SUSE linux05:19
ArwenMr_Pan, the only truly anonymous proxy is tor (http://tor.eff.org)05:19
bertholdizsercik: nothing to be sad about05:19
serciki will not use it anymore... i promise!05:19
bertholdizsercik:  suse is nice too05:19
sercikoh yes!05:19
Arwensercik, lol........... we don't advocate any one linux over another05:19
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sercikArwen i know but i can assure that i'm sorry05:20
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bertholdizsercik:  bad experience?05:20
sercikbecuase on the first impressions it seems very good but then............05:20
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sercikit ssems more windows than linux05:20
sercikonly graphic interface!05:20
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sercikbleah!05:20
bertholdizsercik:  the major chink in suses armor ir that lack of package management.05:20
sercikpackage management is horrible... i have upgraded and it takes one minute to solve dependencies05:21
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BluesKajbertholdiz, no kidding... YAST sucks05:21
sercikand then the upgrade process is not visible05:21
sercikit seems windows05:21
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bertholdizi think im going to install macosx now05:21
sercikyou can see only an advanced bar05:22
bertholdizhehe05:22
sercikmacosx on intel?05:22
bertholdizsercik: nope05:22
bertholdizppc05:22
sercikah!05:22
sercikbecause i have tried on intel05:22
sercikbut don't have drivers..05:22
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sfireonly works good on a few machines (so I've heard)05:22
bertholdiztoo bad, though if it hadnt been for the stupid grinding i would have been satisified with linux.05:23
sercikwithout any doubt macosx is a good operating system but linux is bet05:23
sfirebertholdiz: you need to look into the grinding05:23
sercikbest05:23
sfireif you care about your data that is05:23
sfireI can tell you it didn't grind for me when I had a NTFS drive mounted05:23
BluesKajbertholdiz, there's gotta be something wrong with the HDD05:23
sercikand then i have asked for little help on suse irc and they have told me i'm stupid and i need to use ubuntu :(05:23
bertholdizBluesKaj:  i think there is something wrong with the swapping05:24
GrueTamersercik: those guys are dumb05:24
bertholdizit only grinds when ram gets full05:24
sfirebertholdiz: then that would be your smaller drive05:24
sfirenot the NTFS one05:24
jriachiI have an idea for a bug-fixing contest, for the 7.10... the participants record a 30secs video (with istanbul, recordmydesktop, webcam in front of screen...) tring to show their 'favorite' bugs. then there is a votation. the winning video(s) gets their bugs fixed with high priority and win a t-shirt.05:24
sercikwe ubuntu users make a promise to don't use SUSE05:24
serciki promise and you?05:24
bertholdizyes05:24
sercikany other?05:24
GrueTamerid make that promise, but im hardly an ubuntu user, its just my backup/stable OS that i run05:24
GrueTamerif im gonna break things, i need something thatll work :)05:25
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BluesKajbertholdiz, then don't do the auto partition , do it manually and make yer  swap the same size as the memory05:25
bertholdizBluesKaj: good advice.05:25
amin81hello everyone05:25
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bertholdizbtw is it possible to run linux with a swapfile instead of a partition?05:25
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optixDoes anyone know of any good WiFi apps for Kubuntu that allow selection from available networks, rather than manually inputting the SSID?05:25
llutzbertholdiz: sure it is05:26
amin81I cannot connect to the internet using kubuntu, anyone knows why?05:26
serciksomeone of you that know me a little: do you think i'm a bad guy?05:26
optixmuch like the Wireless Network in Winblowz.05:26
sfireoptix: yes... knetworkmanager05:26
sercikthaat i break balls and other?05:26
GrueTamerlol, windblowz05:26
GrueTamerwinblowz*05:26
optixsfire, it doesn't want to do that though05:26
optixit will only accept the inputted SSID.05:26
amin81sfire: did you see where the phin guy went?05:27
sercikbecause on suse hi think that i'm not a good people he have told me many bad words stupid idiot and some son of a bitch have also told about my mother and my sister05:27
sfireamin81: he had to go... it was getting too hot05:27
amin81sfire: hmm05:27
rraajjoptix: wlassistant05:27
sfireamin81: basically he was just going to tell you how to configure your network connection with a static IP05:27
amin81sfire: ok, thanx05:27
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amin81sfire: yeah, I was back after ten minutes but he had already left05:28
serciksudo ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.105:28
sercikor any other ip you want05:28
bertholdiztine for a reboot05:28
rraajjoptix: Though I haven't made it work using wpa_supplicant, though. It can detect WPA-enabled networks, but can't make it connect to them.05:28
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rraajjWoops, double "though". I must be really sleepy by now.05:28
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sfireamin81: copy all info except your IP address from windows... then pick a IP address that is unique on your network (you can try adding just 1 to your windows IP05:29
sfireamin81: all the other info.. DNS... Gateway, Etc should all be the same as in windows05:29
amin81ok, thanx05:29
optixrraajj, maybe you can help me in that department as well (WPA)05:30
amin81sfire: i will have to disconnect again, brb05:30
sercikamin81you can add info to /etc/networks/interfaces manually os use network configuration05:30
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rraajjoptix: What seems to be the problem?05:30
optixI can't seem to get my WiFi to logon to a WPA network05:30
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optixI've had to turn off encryption in order to get it to connect05:30
sfireoptix I may know why05:30
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optixsince there's also a Mac in the house that can't use WEP05:30
sfireI have to tell it the WEP key is hex to connect05:30
pyrotixhow do I find what version of Kubuntu I'm running?05:30
sfireif I use any other option it won't accept the WEP05:30
optixhmm - so how do I find out/make the hex password?05:31
sfirepyrotix: uname -a05:31
rraajjoptix: Hmm, where do you configure your network connection?05:31
optixI used KWifiManager05:31
pyrotixsfire: isn't that kernel ver?05:31
sfireoptix: it could already be hex... is your WEP key only 0-9 A-F ?05:31
optixsfire, yes05:32
optixit's a rather simple password - actually.05:32
sfirethen its a hex wep key05:32
sfirefor some reason it made a difference on mine05:32
optixso no different then a usual pass?/05:32
sfireI spent hours trying to get it to connect05:32
sfireon mine I had to tell knetworkmanager that it was a hex key in a drop down box05:32
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stevec_how do you create deb packages, I want kovpn but it isn't available so thought I might create a packge for it05:33
frojndThis user is not reachable at the moment. Please make sure you are connected and using a protocol that supports offline sending, or wait until this user comes online.  HOW CAN I make this work than when I click someone when I am invisible (in kopete - msn protocol) I can chat with him/her/it ??05:33
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sfirestevec_: I don't think there is a simple one line response to that... I've seen instructions online though05:34
sfireoptix: try using knetworkmanager and if it can't find the router try typing in the SSID and the put in the WEP key as hex and see if it works05:35
sfireyou could have your router setup to not broadcast the SSID?05:36
rraajjoptix: Hmm, let's see... I used to get my card to connect to a WPA-enabled network using wpa_supplicant back in Mepis, but I had to downgrade it to WEP for my DS.05:36
Arwen!packaging | stevec_05:36
ubotustevec_: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports05:36
rraajjI think Ubuntu (gnome) has default support for WPA using it's standard wireless network manager.05:37
rraajjI'm not really sure about it when it comes to Feisty.05:37
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amin81sfire: i forgot to tell you05:37
amin81sfire: when I do ping -c 3 www.google.com | grep transmitted05:37
rraajjoptix: Try installing wpasupplicant first.05:37
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amin81sfire: 3 packages are delivered with a 0% loss05:38
rraajjHmm, I think it is already installed in the default installation.05:38
sfireamin81: then its working05:38
sfireamin81: congrats05:38
amin81sfire: but i cannot get online05:38
amin81sfire: I havnt tried to installing the static yet05:39
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sfireamin81: if you get 0% loss then its working fine05:39
amin81sfire: yes but when I do ping www.google.com05:39
amin81sfire: then it does not work05:39
sfirewhat does the last line say when you stop it05:40
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sfire'ctrl + c'05:40
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llutzamin81: try: ping 209.85.135.14705:40
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rraajjoptix: Try installing wlassistant. I heard from KDE-apps that it has WPA support now.05:40
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rraajjhttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=21832&forumpage=18&PHPSESSID=f09c9d5686697f6afa2af6852573035305:41
amin81llutz: ok05:41
amin81brb05:41
phpcodemy gcc goes not work. it is installed. help?05:41
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rraajjphpcode: What do you mean it doesn't work?05:41
MinatakuYou probably have only GCC and not build-essential05:42
MinatakuOr whatever the heck it's called05:42
Arwenyeah, build-essential05:42
MinatakuThx, Arwen X305:42
Arwenalso, you'll probably need the dev headers if whatever you're compiling has dependencies05:42
phpcoderraajj: i tryed to install eggdrop and i got this error: checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no ...05:43
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MinatakuO.o05:43
amin81llutz: 0% packet loss05:43
Arwenphpcode, link to eggdrop? I'll take a look at it05:43
sylvestrehi all05:43
amin81llutz: what does it mean?05:43
sylvestregow are you?05:43
amin81hi sylvestre05:43
sylvestre*how are you05:44
amin81not bad, how are you?05:44
rraajjphpcode: You could try following their (Minataku and Arwen) advice, install build-essential.05:44
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amin81llutz: still there?05:44
llutzamin81: so you've got reply on ping? means you need to setup your dns05:44
phpcodeArwen: ftp.eggheads.org/pub/eggdrop/source/1.6/eggdrop1.6.18.tar.bz205:44
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amin81lluts: ok05:44
sylvestrefine thanks you05:44
stevec_Arwen: thanks for the links!05:44
Arwenphpcode, I can't connect to server....05:44
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Sannephpcode: eggdrop is available as an ubuntu package, btw05:46
phpcodeArwen: www.egghelp.org/files.htm05:46
Arwenphpcode, what Sanne said, you can "apt-get install eggdrop"05:47
phpcodeSanne: i know, but i want to have it installed on my Desktop :-P05:48
Arwen.......05:48
Arwenso "apt-get install eggdrop"05:48
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Sannephpcode: ok, just thought I'd mention it :)05:49
Arwenif you want to build your own eggdrop, you need the "cdbs", "tcl8.4-dev", "zlib1g-dev", and "build-essential" packages05:49
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phpcoderraajj, Arwen, Sanne: thanks for the help.  i dont know what i did but it solved the problem :-)05:54
Arwenlol05:54
Sannephpcode: you're welcome :)05:55
rraajjphpcode: Lol! Linux has "automagical" powers! :))05:55
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Sannehahaha05:55
rraajj(I really forgot where I got that word from...)05:55
phpcodehehe.. :-P05:56
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amin81llutz: back!05:56
amin81llutz: it didnt work out :(05:56
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CPrgmSwR2Hi, kubuntu is sooo niced and polished05:57
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amin81llutz: r u there?05:58
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llutzamin81: yep05:59
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amin81does anyone know rysiek in here?05:59
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amin81llutz: i'll have to figure out what to do. thanks for your help anyway!06:01
llutzamin81: do you use dhcp or static ips?06:01
amin81llutz: dhcp06:01
amin81llutz: i will explain everything from the beginning for you06:02
llutzamin81: so dns should be set right automatically...06:02
amin81llutz: yes, but it doesnt...it does under windows but not under linux06:02
amin81llutz: when I installed linux on my new computer (3 weeks back) i had the same problem06:02
amin81llutz: i had to add a script in interfaces (which rysiek helped me out with)06:03
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weedaris there a simple way to test my webcam? I'm not sure if the driver is installed or not06:03
amin81llutz: now the internet provider has changed the router that provides the building i live in with internet06:03
amin81llutz: so all the numbers have changed06:03
rraajjweedar: Install camorama. :)06:04
amin81llutz: i tried to replace the old numbers in the script with the new numbers but it still isnt working06:04
rraajj(not sure if that's counted as "simple", though)06:04
amin81llutz: i also deleted the script and tried to install the numbers manually with no success06:04
amin81llutz: and now I am here06:04
llutzamin81: what numbers? if dhcp is used, all addresses should be given by the server06:05
amin81the broadcast number, the undernet mask, the default gateway and the inet address06:05
llutzamin81: what is your network-device (ethX, wlanX)?06:05
amin81llutz: eth006:05
amin81llutz: let me show you the script06:05
llutzamin81: try in a console "sudo dhclient eth0"06:06
amin81llutz: i tried it06:07
amin81llutz: what do you need to know from it?06:07
llutzamin81: can you paste the script to pastebin, plz06:08
llutz!paste|amin8106:08
ubotuamin81: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:08
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amin81llutz: yes06:09
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Ace2016Hi all06:09
weedarrraajj: thanks for the tip ;)06:09
llutzamin81: the dhclient-command hasn't any effect?06:09
NickPrestaweedar, check this link out: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete%20Webcam%20Support&comzone=show06:10
Ace2016i made this howto on how to run seamless rdp to windows xp using virtualbox06:10
Ace2016http://ace2016.65gb.com/index.html   check it out06:10
amin81llutz: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25004/06:11
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stevec_Ace2016: that naff06:12
amin81llutz: yes, it does06:12
amin81it says something with dhcpdiscover06:12
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rraajjweedar: No problem. :)06:12
amin81llutz: dhcpdiscover on eth0 something06:12
anthony_Hi, I am trying to run add/remove but its telling me another process is using adept.. but i am doing this soon after startup so there shouldnt be any other programs..06:12
weedarNickPresta: I assumed Kopete needed me to start a chat with someone who had a cam to work06:12
llutzamin81: seems that the default-route (gateway) isn't set right when doing a dhcp-request (that's what the script fixes)06:13
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llutzamin81: the dhcp-server seems to be crappy...06:14
jhutchins_lt!aptfix | anthony_06:14
ubotuanthony_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:14
amin81llutz: hmm, ok06:14
amin81llutz: what should I do then?06:14
anthony_10q ubotu06:14
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anthony_oops 10q jhutchins_Lt06:14
llutzamin81: hm, try using static ips06:15
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amin81llutz:i just did, it is still not working06:15
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llutzamin81: whats the addressrange of your local network?06:15
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llutzamin81: whats the ip of the dhcp-server?06:15
amin81llutz: hmm, have no clue...06:15
anthony_10x working now06:16
amin81llutz: dhcp-server has 10.11.0.25406:16
BluesKajshouldn'the pc behind the router have a default staic IP , it's just dynamic on the internet side ?06:16
amin81range is probably 200-250...i am guessing06:16
BluesKajstatic IP06:16
llutzBluesKaj: dhcp is usefull in localnets too06:16
llutzif it works...06:16
BluesKajyeah , but I'm just thinking of a home network setup06:17
llutzamin81: so thats the address of the new router?06:17
anthony_another thing.. the backup text files show in the desktop.. is there a way to hide all the backup stuff ?06:17
amin81llutz: yes, the old one had 192.168.0.1 or something06:17
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llutzamin81: mom06:17
amin81llutz: haha, what??06:17
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llutzamin81: sry, mom=german abreviation for "wait a moment" ;)06:18
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amin81llutz: oh, :D06:18
llutzamin81: try to change the script this way: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25007/06:19
amin81llutz: ok06:19
amin81llutz: that is exactly what i did before06:20
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ardchoilleHow do I restart my sound?06:20
llutzamin81: and no success?06:20
amin81llutz: without any success...that is why I am here06:20
llutzamin81: hmmm06:20
optixrraajj, I got it to work with knetmanager :)06:20
optixrraajj, there's only one problem06:20
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amin81llutz: yes, hehe06:21
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rraajjoptix: w00t! That's good. :)06:23
sebastianhooker_hey i have a question06:23
optixrraajj, one issue though - my wifi is dropping packets.06:23
rraajjBut... Isn't knetworkmanager a bit hard to use? (I mean, if you frequently change networks, anyway)06:23
optixrraajj, not at all06:23
sebastianhooker_how do I log onto my ubuntu shared folders from a windows computer? what is the username and password i need, my regular one won't work06:23
optixjust a dropdown menu :)06:23
llutzamin81: maybe you can try this, just 3 commands to test: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25009/06:24
rraajjoptix: Oh, okay. :)06:24
rraajjoptix: What card are you using?06:24
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optixit's an integrated Broadcom06:24
amin81llutz: the funny thing is, when I ping -c 3 www.google.com then 0% package loss06:24
optixcame with my Dell.06:24
llutzamin81: that means, your network works06:24
llutzamin81: and dns too06:24
rraajjAh, the dreaded Broadcom chipsets.06:24
optixrraajj, yep.06:24
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DexterFhow to I make 7.04 mount nfs at boot time? entries in fstab are fine06:24
rraajjoptix: What did you do to make it work? I used ndiswrapper on mine.06:24
optixrraajj, I had it working perfectly earlier06:25
optixjust with no encryption.06:25
amin81llutz: hmm06:25
optixrraajj, there's a broadcom driver on the ubuntu forums06:25
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optixsomewhere.06:25
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timdcan anyone help me be able to watch DVD's...and i did !dvd already06:25
rraajjoptix: Hmm. I'm not sure, it's probably with Feisty's build of wpasupplicant. You said you had it working perfectly without encryption, right?06:26
llutzamin81: can you open www.linux.com in firefox/konqueror06:26
amin81no, I cannot open any sites06:26
rraajjtimd: Try Kaffeine or VLC, works great.06:26
amin81llutz: let i'll be right back06:26
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llutzamin81: that#s real odd06:26
amin81yes06:27
optixrraajj, yeah - what happens is that there's major latency between the wifi card and router and subsequently beyond06:27
amin81llutz: let me try, i will be back in 5 mins06:27
timdi tried and get errors06:27
timdrraajj: i tried and get errors06:27
optixi.e. on my stock Intel Mac06:27
optixI can ping domain x06:27
optixat ~ 50ms06:27
optixwhereas Kubuntu pings it at ~ 15006:27
optixand ifconfig is showing dropped packets06:27
NickPrestatimd, what sems to be your problem? Have you followed: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability (forget totem-xine and do gstreamer0.8-dvd)06:28
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timdis that the same as06:28
rraajjoptix: Sorry, I can't help any further... I haven't used WPA since I bought myself a DS Lite. :P06:28
timd!dvd06:28
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs06:28
timdoh ok i'll try that Nick06:28
magicmikeI extracted a folder onto my desktop. I am in terminal and it lists my starting directory as magicmike@magicmike-desktop:~$ How do I navigate to my desktop folder which is named my files?06:29
rraajjoptix: But it's good you got your card working under a WPA-enabled network, at least.06:29
optixrraajj, yeah :)06:29
optixquestion is - will my Mac laptop work now? ;)06:29
llutzmagicmike: cd ~/Desktop/myfiles06:29
rraajjWhy? Macs can't handle WPA?06:29
optixrraajj, no - I don't think it'll take kindly to the netconfig change.06:30
NickPrestamagicmike, http://www.ss64.com/bash/ You're looking for things like cd, ls, mv, cp and such for simple tasks.06:30
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optixso might have to reconfig that too.06:30
stevec_magicmike: google is your friend, use it06:30
timdNeed to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.06:30
stevec_timd: that won;t take long then06:30
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rraajjoptix: Doesn't it have one of those AirPort config thingys?06:31
rraajj<-- hardly has any experience with Macs. :P06:31
optixrraajj, yes - it does, just means I need to go reconfigure it is all06:31
optix:)06:31
rraajjoptix: Oh, okay. :)06:31
timdhow do i get the OB thing?06:32
timdsorry i just installed kubuntu yesterday so getting used to it06:32
optixbut question is - why am I dropping all these packets? :(06:32
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NickPrestatimd: You might want to try the Add/Remove Programs application and search for DVD.06:32
magicmikeThat command gives me "No such file or directory". As far as google ing it, I have been on many different begginner sites and haven't grasped it. I thought if I came in here someone could simplify the matter. But excuse me if I'm too dumb to figure it out.06:32
magicmikeThanks NickPresta.06:33
sfiremagicmike: what are you trying to do?06:33
timdNickPresta: I have 4 different DVD players and they all won't let me play a DVD...it has to be packages or lib i'm missing, but don't know which one06:33
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amin81llutz: hey06:33
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amin81llutz: ok, this is what i did06:34
firdausmy pc cannot access java site.. wut should i do??06:34
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magicmikeTrying to learn how to navigate directories. I had to download flash player and save it to a directory. Now I want to navigate to it to install.06:34
NickPrestamagicmike, in your home directory (~), do `ls`. That will bring up a listing of the directory. Then, figure out the name of the folder and type `cd NAME`06:34
sfiremagicmike: you want to use the 'cd' command06:34
amin81llutz: i changed the network settings to automatic06:34
amin81llutz: then I wrote ping www.google.com in konsole06:34
timdThe source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?06:34
optixhmm - anyone have any suggestions for seeing where/why I'm dropping all of these packets?06:34
amin810% package loss06:34
sfiremagicmike: example 'cd /home/yourname/'06:34
firdausmy pc cannot access java site.. wut should i do??06:34
firdaussomebody help me06:35
sfiremagicmike: then type 'ls'06:35
amin81llutz: 0% package loss. So I opened firefox and wrote www.hotmail.com06:35
amin81llutz: it says: connecting to www.hotmail.com but it just keeps on thinking06:35
magicmikeIs that minus the '06:35
timdNeed to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.06:35
timdhow do i get that?06:35
sfiremagicmike: yes06:35
NickPrestamagicmike, yes, you do not include the quotes.06:35
amin81llutz: then I opened konversation and tried to connect to the ubuntu server. It says: server found, connecting...06:36
firdaussomebody help me06:36
amin81llutz: but nothing is happening06:36
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sfirefirdaus: install java ?06:36
amin81llutz: did you get the info?06:36
llutzamin81: very strange, if you hadn't said that win works i would say the router is broken.06:37
NickPrestaamin81, the only other thing I can suggest is using `traceroute` and finding where you get stuck...06:37
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rraajjoptix: kwlan is nice, just tried it here.06:37
rraajjI think it's a fork of wpagui for KDE.06:37
amin81NickPresta: traceroute?06:37
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sfireamin81: did you change the configuration in your browser... are you trying to use a proxy?06:37
magicmikeI know how to use the ls command. I have a problem navigating from there.06:37
firdausbut my pc cannot run the adept manager n add remove prog06:37
llutzamin81: sudo aptitude install traceroute    and then "traceroute www.hotmail.com"06:38
NickPrestaamin81, yeah. Something like: traceroute google.com. it will print out the route that packets take. Perhaps they're being dropped somewhere06:38
amin81sfire: the browser settings is not the problem as I cannot connect with any other program either06:38
amin81ok, let me try... brb06:38
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amin81llutz: I wont be able to download the program though06:39
amin81llutz: as the comp cannot connect06:39
llutzamin81: ups, right....06:39
sfirellutz: are you at a college?06:39
llutzsfire: nope06:40
sfireoops... amin81 are you at a college06:40
sfirelol06:40
amin81sfire: no06:40
llutzanyone at a college? ;)) tell it sfire06:40
sfireno no... it was ment for amin81 I just typed your name by mistake06:40
amin81sfire: why?06:40
sfirelol06:40
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sfireyou claim you can ping google.com fine right?06:41
amin81sfire: yes06:41
amin81but no programs on the comp can connect06:41
CPrgmSwR2OMG amarok is amazing06:41
optixrraajj, I think that my packets dropping issue is related to issues upstream06:41
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sfireCPrgmSwR2: yes it is06:41
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CPrgmSwR2The visuallize thing actually appears to really respond to the music06:42
CPrgmSwR2In winamp it always seemed off beat06:42
sfireamin81: the only thing I can possibly think of that could cause it is if it is configured to use some kind of proxy by mistake06:43
jzillahave you toy'd with the collection aspect of the program yet?06:43
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slow-motionhallo06:43
amin81sfire: no, it is not using proxy06:43
amin81sfire: let me doublecheck though06:43
sfiremake sure its set to connect to the internet directly06:43
amin81sfire: it is set to connect directly06:44
Daisuke_Idoturns out switching mountpoints is easier than i thought (with kcontrol)06:44
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amin81someone please help me, dont want to use winblows!06:45
jzillawhat's up06:45
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jzillanet problems?06:46
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amin81llutz: are oyu still on the problem or did you give up?06:46
DexterF!nfs06:46
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.06:46
llutzamin81: actually i don't have any nearly intelligent idea :(06:47
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amin81llutz: ok06:47
amin81llutz: thanks alot for your help though06:47
sfireI have a suggestion06:47
sfirebut its some work06:47
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llutzamin81: i fear i wasn't very helpfull06:48
sfireseeing the guy before had you change some configuration settings manually you may want to consider re-installing (keeping your home partition) and seeing if ti works06:48
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magicmikeThanks guys. I still don't know how to navigate in terminal but so what.06:49
sfirewithout knowing what he did it would be hard for me to tell you what to do ... now with a default install I could help.. but most likely it would just work06:49
amin81llutz: we didnt solve the problem but you put your time and effort to it06:49
sfireamin81: ^^06:49
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amin81sfire: how so I keep my home?06:49
amin81sfire: "how DO I" I mean. :)06:50
sfiredepending on how you partitioned your hard drive you should have a /home/ partition06:50
sfire(i do believe that is the default)06:50
sfirejust don't let it format it during the install06:50
amin81sfire: yes, I have one /home06:50
sfirebut tell it to format the others06:50
amin81sfire: alright06:50
sfiremy guess is that it'll work right out of the box06:51
amin81sfire: i will try06:51
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sfireI think he had you change some configuration file you can't remember now and thats really causing the issue06:51
llutzsfire: re-installation shouldn't be the solution of a problem but unfortunately it may help :(06:51
amin81sfire: no, all I changed was the interface06:51
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sfireits not the optimal solution of course.. but it works when you don't know what has been done to the configuration files06:52
sfireand just to return everything to stock06:52
llutzamin81: one more: please paste output of "ifconfig eth0" "route -n" "cat /etc/resolv.conf" to pastebin06:52
amin81everyone who helped me: thanks alot for your help!06:53
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llutzsfire: i see what you mean, but it "scratches my pride"06:53
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enzo_Hello all. Any recommendations for a PCMCIA Ethernet Card to use with Kubuntu?06:54
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enzo_Edgy Eft if that matters06:54
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optixany ideas why my wireless would be dropping packets? :(06:55
llutzoptix: weak link, powersaving enabled?06:55
enzo_optix: Anything in the way?06:55
sfireoptix: type this 'iwconfig'06:56
optixllutz, the router is not 2 feet06:56
optixsfire, done06:56
sfireoptix: what is the signal and noise levels?06:56
optixSignal level=-48 dBm  Noise level=-71 dBm06:56
sfiredid you try another channel?06:56
DexterF!real06:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:57
optixno - let me go change that06:57
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optixI just have it set on auto.06:57
sfirethats generally not good06:57
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chris__help06:58
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chris__how can i comp a file06:59
sfirecompare?06:59
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chris__compil lo06:59
llutzchris__: cmp file1 file206:59
chris__i just got 1 file06:59
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enzo_Does it matter what I choose for my laptop's Ethernet Card? (PCMCIA = PC Card)07:00
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llutzchris__: gcc -o outfile infile07:00
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chris__ok but where's the infile lol07:00
darksoulermm hi all07:00
jason___hi07:00
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darksoulcan someone pls help me on Kubuntu?07:00
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sfireenzo_: most everything is fairly well supported07:01
Daisuke_Idohaving some issues in qtparted07:01
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Daisuke_Idogot rid of /dev/hdb5 (deleted the partition) and committed the change07:01
darksouli am a new user and i cannot use the adept_updater07:01
enzo_sfire: Is there anything in particular that I should see/read prior to purchasing for my laptop?07:01
darksoulcause it needs the passwords07:01
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darksoulpassword*07:01
Daisuke_Idodarksoul: use your apssword07:02
Daisuke_Idopassword*07:02
darksoulDaisuke i did07:02
darksoulit is not accepted :S07:02
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sfireenzo_: see PM07:02
Daisuke_Idois there another user on that machine?07:02
darksoulnope07:02
darksouli just installed them07:02
Daisuke_Idoare you sure you typed your password correctly07:02
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enzo_What PM?07:02
NickPrestadarksoul, the password should be the password you use to login and such. If it isn't accepted, you more-than-likely typed it wrong.07:03
enzo_sfire: What PM?07:03
Daisuke_Idobecause adept (And all programs that require root access) use your password as default, not a root password07:03
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darksoulbrb changed my password07:03
darksoulreloging07:03
NickPrestaenzo_, I believe PM stands for private message/whisper.07:04
Daisuke_Idoanyway...  i can't make any changes to that drive now, and i can't figure out why...07:04
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enzo_NickPresta: I meant "What PM? I didn't receive one"07:04
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NickPrestaenzo_, oh sorry. I misread your question. It's very early :P07:04
darksoulok it worked now07:05
sfirehmm... must be I can't send PMs for some reason07:05
enzo_NickPresta: It's ok. I deal with online chats at work... I know about misunderstandings07:05
Daisuke_Idosfire: register your nick07:05
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Tm_Thi kids07:06
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Tm_Tlong time no abc07:06
Daisuke_Idohey Tm_T07:06
yurimxpxmanwhat can I use to convert mpeg2 to ogg theora?07:06
Daisuke_Idomake my parted work :P07:06
Tm_TDaisuke_Ido: use axe, large one07:06
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Tm_Tthat make them parted07:06
Daisuke_Idoqtparted, that is07:07
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sivajiDaisuke_Ido all the menus and buttons remain inactive in  my qtparted07:08
llutzyurimxpxman: vls, transcode, ffmpeg2theora07:08
Daisuke_Idoto summarize: deleted 10gb partition.  committed changes.  cannot make any more changes to the drive.  don't know why.07:08
chris__maybe someone can help me burning cdi image files07:08
Daisuke_Idoswap space is on that drive07:08
Daisuke_Idochris__: you can't, directly07:08
Daisuke_Idoacetoneiso07:08
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yurimxpxmanllutz: ffmpeg2theora is great! Thanks :-)07:09
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jriachiI have made a icon for my music folder... :) http://nethen.org/misc/kde_bluefolder_music.png07:11
timdcan anyone in here watch a DVD on their comp?07:11
DemonSamuraiermm anyone available atm? still need some help with things07:11
FSHerooops, sorry for typing garbage.07:11
jhutchinsDoes the k3b on the live CD not burn DVD's for some reason?07:11
xerosisDemonSamurai: what's up?07:11
chris__i downloaded acetone iso but all i got is a deb file07:11
chris__what to do ith it?07:12
BluesKajDaisuke_Ido, use GParted , it's much better than qtparted...very  stable live cd07:12
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NickPrestajhutchins, I've burnt many DVDs with K3B. What seems to be your problem?07:14
BluesKajchris__, right click on the deb file and choose actions , there you will see the install option07:14
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xerosistimd: I can, have you added the dvd codec?07:14
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chris__ok BluesKaj07:15
timdnope, could you help me with that?07:15
Daisuke_IdoBluesKaj: if you were a girl i'd kiss you07:15
Daisuke_Idobut you're not, so you're just going to have to cope with a manly pat on the back07:15
jhutchinsWhere'd he go?07:16
timdxerosis: nope, could you help me with that?07:16
jhutchinsI burn DVD's all the time from a HD install, but the live CD doesn't detect the DVD drive as writable.07:16
chris__and now its installed right?07:16
Kartiboktimd: Have a look at this page...it should set you right. Helped me watch dvds and the like...http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html07:16
xerosistimd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:16
Kartibokxerosis: sorry for butting in07:17
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BluesKajhehe chris__, and i'm ugly too :)07:17
xerosisKartibok: no problem :)07:17
chris__cant install it it says it lacks some packages :(07:17
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BluesKajchris__, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=44805&forumpage=8&PHPSESSID=39b81e126c7faebe4141619dc4223dee07:19
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chris__sanx07:20
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chris__ok and now?07:22
chris__how can i install this?07:22
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chris__make all?07:22
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BluesKajchris__, right click on the deb file , choose "Kubuntu Package Menu"07:26
chris__but i didnt isntall the fuseisios files!07:27
chris__no matter?07:27
nullkuhlguys , how to install xgl + beryl on ati in fiesty ? (if u have a link 4 a guide pls write it) cause the one on beryl site is deleted...07:27
snowdonkeyHi, I want to compile a new kernel but I don't know at which step I'm supposed to enable SATA support.07:27
snowdonkeyI'm using the guide here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158&highlight=master+kernel07:28
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nullkuhlguys , how to install xgl + beryl on ati in fiesty ? (if u have a link 4 a guide pls write it) cause the one on beryl site is deleted...07:29
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chris__where do i extract the fuseisos files?07:29
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epocolishelp07:32
epocolisi just installed fiesty07:32
epocolisi am using apt-get install07:32
epocolisbut the connection times out each time07:33
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epocolisanybody there07:33
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xerosisepocolis: sounds like a dodgy internet connection...07:34
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epocolisi connect to the internet okay otherwise07:34
epocoliswget works fine07:34
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epocolisits just the update tools07:35
hdHi07:35
hdBye07:35
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epocolisapt, update-manager07:35
epocolisetc07:35
xerosisepocolis: what server are you getting a from? a country one or the main server?07:36
Admiral_Chicagowhat command can i run to print which shell i am using07:36
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llutzAdmiral_Chicago: echo $SHELL07:36
timdhow can I set my USB headset to be my audio source for everything07:37
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Admiral_Chicagothanks llutz07:37
epocolisxerosis, let me check07:37
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tafsen__Hi07:39
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epocolis<xerosis> USA server07:39
timdanyone?07:39
xerosisepocolis: could try changing it to the main server?07:39
epocolisok07:39
epocolisxerosis : will try that now07:40
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snowdonkeyHow do I enable SATA support when I'm compiling a new kernel?07:40
BluesKajtimd, you mean you want all the sources to link to your headset ?07:41
keithI install Kumbutu and did a update and now adept won't allow me to add/remove programs07:41
timdright like my output and input all going through the USB headset07:41
timdtrying to watch a movie and i'm not getting any audio07:41
epocoliskieth: maybe apt-manager is still running07:42
epocolischeck your processes07:42
keithnope checked that already07:42
xerosiskeith: is it the database lock thing?07:42
xerosisadept borks it sometimes07:42
keithI yes07:43
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xerosiskeith: i think you run 'apt-get -f install' to fix it07:43
xerosiskeith: but it might not be that07:43
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chris__noxw that i got acetoneiso, what should i do with cdi files?07:44
timdmaybe an easier way would be, how do i disable the onboard sound device? it seems to want to go to that instead of my headset07:44
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sfirekeith: if the database is locked and no other copies are running you need to remove the lock file07:44
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epocolisxerosis: changing the source server didnt work07:45
keithhow do I do that07:45
xerosisepocolis: :(07:45
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epocolis xerosis : thats not good07:45
BluesKajtimd in Kmix, make sure capture is on and make sure the source switch IEC958 playback is set to PCM07:45
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sfirekeith: delete the lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock07:46
chris__???07:46
keithwhat is the command to unlock the file07:46
timdBluesKaj: you're speaking greek :)07:46
sfirekeith: 'rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock'07:46
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hvralphakeith, run sudo dpkg --configure -a in terminal and see if iit works07:47
leonardobla07:47
epocolisxerosis: i am going to post it on the ubuntu forum07:47
BluesKajKmix is the mixer that in the little speaker in the panel07:47
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BluesKajtimd, Kmix is the mixer that in the little speaker in the panel07:48
timdright...07:48
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BluesKajtimd in Kmix, make sure capture is on and make sure the source switch IEC958 playback is set to PCM07:48
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hdWho know a hacker chanell ???07:49
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chris__what is $path?07:49
nullkuhlguys i have just installed xgl and made a new session for it, am in this session now, first its kinda slow , also 3d support is off : Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".direct rendering: No ... plz help07:49
sfirekeith: oops... the command would be 'sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock'  ... the sudo will probably be required to do it07:50
jzillaim 30 seconds from formating back to a 32bit enviroment, somebody stop me07:50
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sfire64bit blows07:50
timdBluesKaj: that's all selected, still no audio07:50
BluesKajthen in the terminal type,  "alsamixer" , unmute the source ctrls that you need by using the arrow keys to highlight the cntrls ,and the letterM to mute or unmute the source cntrls07:50
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BluesKajMute=MM , unmuted=0007:51
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timdsorry in what terminal?07:52
timdi'm very new to linux07:52
timdand kubuntu07:52
BluesKajalsamixer07:52
timdwhere is that?07:52
chris__ :fffffffffff07:52
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chris__help!07:52
BluesKajthe Konsole , in the K-menu07:52
sfiretimd: goto start ----- > system ----> Konsole07:53
hvralphaterminal ius under system07:53
chris__how do i install somr tar gz files07:53
GrueTamerchris__: you need to extract it first, and probably compile it07:53
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chris__compile it xhere lol07:54
chris__where07:54
sfirechris__: 'gzip -d filename'   then  'tar -xf filename'07:54
timdstill nothing :(07:54
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timdi unmuted everything07:55
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sfiretimd: does your card have a digital output?07:55
timdi am trying to use a USB headset07:55
sfireahhh.. nevermind07:56
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chris__thats all?07:57
chris__and its compiled?07:57
chris__nice07:57
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sfireno07:57
jzillaat this point, you've just unpacked it07:57
sfirethats decompressed and untared07:57
chris__ok07:57
chris__and now?07:57
chris__lol07:57
sfire./configure, make, make install    usually07:57
BluesKajwell timd , try this tutorial, you can get your linux feet wet on this ...it's relatively straightforward and it should solve your problem : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF)07:58
sfirethose are seperate commands.... './configure' 'make' 'sudo make install'07:58
llutztry to avoid "make install", use at least checkinstall to build .debs07:58
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DemonSamuraianyone using wine?07:58
coreymon77DemonSamurai: depends for what07:58
BluesKajfor some things yes , DemonSamurai07:59
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coreymon77DemonSamurai: for somethings, yes07:59
coreymon77DemonSamurai: why?07:59
chris__ARGH07:59
hdbye07:59
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DemonSamuraiermm i am on Kubuntu amd64 and i cannot download/install it07:59
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coreymon77DemonSamurai: apt?07:59
DJServersyo08:00
coreymon77DemonSamurai: did you try using apt?08:00
DragnslcrDemonSamurai- I think you have to add Wine's repository to your sources list08:00
DemonSamuraiyes08:00
DemonSamuraii did08:00
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DemonSamuraibut it sais it is not available or something08:00
coreymon77DemonSamurai: you sure you used the amd64 version, not the x86 one?08:00
coreymon77DemonSamurai: you have to add the repo08:01
DemonSamuraikubuntu 7.4 amd6408:01
hvralphaDid anybody install skype on amd64 succesfully?08:01
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chris__and how do i comp a dir then?08:02
sfirechris__: see my above instructions08:02
chris__i tried but nothing08:02
sfirewhat did you get when you typed './configure'  ??08:03
sfireerrors?08:03
chris__is up to date08:03
chris__means its ok?08:03
sfirehow about after the 'make' command?08:03
chris__thats this08:04
chris__"cdirip is up to date"08:04
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sfireare you sure it didn't just install it?08:04
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sfiretry the command for it and see if its working08:04
chris__nope08:05
chris__nothing08:05
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sfirehard to say if you didn't get errors.. have to ask someone with more skills than me08:05
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chris__ok08:06
hvralphabye08:06
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ardchoillechris__: Which app are you compiling?08:06
CPrgmSwR2How do I install a .deb file through command line08:06
BluesKaj./08:06
llutzCPrgmSwR2: sudo dpkg -i file.deb08:06
chris__cdirip08:06
Tm_Tsudp dpkg -i /path/package.deb08:07
ardchoilleCPrgmSwR2: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb08:07
coreymon77CPrgmSwR2: are you sure you cant use apt instead08:07
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coreymon77CPrgmSwR2: because installing with a deb wont fix broken dependencies08:07
chris__a tool to rip cdi images as linux dont seem to burn them08:07
sercikHi to all!08:07
BluesKajhi Tm_T08:07
BluesKajsercik08:08
Tm_Thowdy (:08:08
serciktelleme BluesKaj08:08
sercikwhich program creates cdi images?08:08
BluesKajdunno08:08
BluesKajacetoneiso08:09
chris__discjuggler08:09
chris__sercik ^08:09
serciknon famous program08:09
sercikyes chris__08:09
chris__nope but its excellent to burn08:09
MinatakuLinux doesn't burn CDIs, you have to split them apart and burn them multisession08:09
MinatakuI've had to do it for Dreamcast games08:09
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sercikinteresting!08:09
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BluesKajcouldn't get acetoniso to work chris__ ?08:09
sercikMinataku exists a good emultor for pc?08:10
Minatakusercik: Not yet08:10
chris__its DC games i want to burn actually :p08:10
MinatakuI have a real DC08:10
Minatakuchris__: I figured as much08:10
sercikok08:10
timdusb audio still isn't working :/08:10
chris__acetoneiso cant seem to load cdi images08:10
BluesKajok08:10
chris__but its said that it could08:10
chris__i juste didnt understood totally lol08:10
serciki have a big problem sith network on ubuntu08:10
BluesKajnever tied those image files08:10
BluesKajtried08:10
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Minatakuchris__: You know what08:10
MinatakuTake my copy08:11
sercikmy lan connection don't work after sone time08:11
MinatakuI have a static-compiled one, it seems08:11
BluesKajcdi images..what are they ?08:11
chris__??? minattaku08:11
chris__your copy of08:12
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serciki use kubuntu from some days but in the last days network don't work properly08:12
Minatakuchris__: Try this on for size >> http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/noaccess/cdirip.static08:12
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BluesKajcd iso's ?08:12
chris__what do i do with thids?08:12
Minatakuchris__: Run it08:12
chris__just laucnh it?08:12
chris__ok ;)08:12
MinatakuYeah08:12
MinatakuTell me if it works08:12
MinatakuIt is specific to Piyoko (my system here) but it's statically linked08:13
MinatakuSo there shouldn't be any library issues08:13
chris__i just doublicliked it08:13
chris__nothing08:13
sercikchris__ you are using linux not windows08:13
chris__lol08:13
sercikexecute it on a konsole08:13
mc__chris__: start it from the console,so that we can see evenutal error messages08:13
MinatakuYeah08:13
chris__command not found08:14
sercikand probavly he need to make it executale or not08:14
sercik??08:14
MinatakuYou need "./cdirip"08:14
snowdonkeyHi, how do I enable SATA support when compiling a new kernel?  I'm following "Master Kernel" directions but they don't say how: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158&highlight=master+kernel08:14
sercikchris__ go in directory you have downloaded08:14
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sercikthen do ls -l08:14
MinatakuAnd yes, you may have to "chmod o+x cdirip.static"08:14
chris__yep08:14
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sercikto see if it is executable08:14
MinatakuThen "./cdirip.static"08:14
sercikthen if is do ./cdirip.static08:14
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serciksometimes when you download a file it lost executable flag08:15
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MinatakuIt's an older version, 0.5a, current is 0.6.208:15
BluesKajyou can make most files executable in prperties08:15
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sercikBluesKaj we are using linux not windows :)08:16
sercikthe power of linux is the commandline08:16
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MinatakuPlus it's a CLI app08:16
=== Tm_T slaps sercik
MinatakuNo GUI to it at all08:16
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sercikslaps??08:16
Tm_Tyup08:16
sercikwhat do you mean?08:16
lupul!ati08:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:16
sercikclaps?08:17
chris__nothing08:17
chris__:(08:17
Tm_Tyou don't know slap?08:17
BluesKajsercik, itworks08:17
sercikno sorry08:17
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Minatakuchris__: Any errors?08:17
Tm_Tsercik: sort of hitting but open hand08:17
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chris__chris@chris-desktop:~$ ./cdrip.static08:17
chris__bash: ./cdrip.static: No such file or directory08:17
Minatakucdirip08:17
sercikTm_T is not a good thing08:17
akaAKAaka* does anybody know if exist an opensource program that is able to talk with slype users???08:17
Minatakucdirip.static08:17
serciki understood it08:17
Tm_TI'm not good08:18
MinatakuYou spelled it wrong08:18
Minatakulol08:18
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MinatakuYou should be fine provided you have at least a Pentium 408:18
Tm_T!skype08:18
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto08:18
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MinatakuSince that's what it's compiled for08:18
akaAKAaka*sorry, SKYPE i mean, not slype :-)08:18
Tm_TakaAKAaka: so no08:18
MinatakuIf not I'll make you a 386 version08:18
chris__ahhhhhhhhhhhh08:18
chris__my god08:18
sercikbut was a friendly slap i hope!08:18
chris__im tired i guess08:18
Minatakuchris__: Heehee08:18
Tm_Tsercik: it was, very08:18
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chris__as i used paste everything i did was wrong08:19
MinatakuHeh08:19
sercikfor example to slap someone on the back....08:19
Minatakuchmod o+x cdirip.static08:19
Minataku./cdirip.static08:19
serciki'm readinf mi dictionary08:19
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MinatakuThat's what you need08:19
chris__it says "enter the name of the cdi image08:19
Minatakuchris__: DING DING DING08:19
MinatakuIt works08:19
sercikchris__ enter08:19
chris__ok08:20
sercikyou can move the images in the same dir08:20
MinatakuNow, there's also a specific way to burn the discs08:20
sercikso you only need do ./image,cdi08:20
MinatakuI forgot where I stuck those damn directions08:20
Minatakusercik: It doesn't work like that08:20
serciksotty Minataku08:20
MinatakuHe has to have the CDI in that directory then type it's name08:20
MinatakuWhen the program asks for it, that is08:20
serciki have told the same08:20
sercikso he don't need to write path08:21
sercikbut only name of image08:21
MinatakuAh08:21
jovanswhy are the restriced modules 2.6.20-16-29 and the image 2.6.20-16-28?08:21
MinatakuRight, but the ./ isn't needed for the program08:21
MinatakuSorry, slight misunderstanding08:21
sercikno problem08:21
serciknoone knows of a strange problem with network on kubuntu?08:22
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serciki loose my network connection08:22
stevec_tighten it08:22
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sercikhe works at the beginning but then no me08:22
sercikhe works at the beginning but then no more08:22
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Tm_Tjovans: feisty-security/main linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic 2.6.20-16.2908:23
Tm_Tsays mine08:23
sercikTm_T you are the master of channel?08:23
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jovansbut the restricted was not updated08:23
Minatakuchris__: Lemme give you a statically linked copy of 0.6.208:23
chris__alright08:23
chris__:)08:24
Tm_Tjovans: and?08:24
Tm_Tsercik: what?08:24
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Tm_Tno I'm not08:24
sercikyou have the @08:24
jovansthe nvidia installer don't work because to blacklist the nv module in restricted modules don't work (/etc/default/restricted-modules-common08:24
Minatakuhttp://s95018220.onlinehome.us/noaccess/cdirip.static << Same place, same name, just replace the old file with this one08:25
jovansit is not the same version as the image or the headers08:25
MinatakuThen test it, tell me if it still works XD08:25
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Tm_Tsercik: no I don't have08:25
Minatakuchris__: This one's gonna work differently, you'll see the syntax when you test-run it with no arguments08:27
MinatakuAs for options, no clue what options there are, I'll give you the site I got it from08:27
chris__ok08:27
Minatakuhttp://cdirip.cjb.net/ << Here ya go08:27
MinatakuSo did it work?08:27
akaAKAakawhich opensource program is the most used as an anternative to SKYPE ?08:27
chris__lol wait a minute im gonne try to find again the commands08:27
chris__upper08:27
chris__lol08:28
stevec_akaAKAaka: why can't you use skype?08:28
akaAKAakabecause is not opensource08:28
Minatakuchris__: No need, I'll give them to ya08:28
stevec_akaAKAaka: and?08:28
chris__ok08:28
Minatakuchmod o+x cdirip.static08:28
Minataku./cdirip.static08:28
chris__it dont work anymore lol08:29
akaAKAakaand i use linux in order to boicot the closed source strategy08:29
MinatakuThe "./" is used to run programs located in the directory that you're currently in08:29
akaAKAakaso :)08:29
Minatakuchris__: Heehee, one sec08:29
chris__root@chris-desktop:/home/chris# chmod o+x cdirip.static08:29
MinatakuOkay, what about running it?08:29
MinatakuDid it say something?08:29
chris__Usage: cdirip image.cdi [dest_path]  [options] 08:29
chris__root@chris-desktop:/home/chris#08:29
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akaAKAakadoes anyone know what is the most used alternative to skype?08:30
stevec_akaAKAaka: don't know of any, i'd just use skypre08:30
stevec_skype even08:30
akaAKAakaok, thx stevec_08:30
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Minatakuchris__: Oh, it does work08:30
MinatakuOkay08:30
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chris__:)08:31
Minatakuchris__: Enjoy08:31
MinatakuOh, BTW08:31
chris__and now all i got to do is to do this08:31
MinatakuIf you want to be able to run it from anywhere08:31
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MinatakuType "sudo cp cdirip.static /usr/bin"08:31
chris__root@chris-desktop:/home/chris# cdirip SOA_CD1_ECH.cdi08:32
chris__bash: cdirip: command not found08:32
chris__WTF08:32
chris__lol08:32
MinatakuYou can also rename it to just cdirip if you wish08:32
Minatakuchris__: All you have is the binary, it's not installed08:32
MinatakuHere, type this08:32
Minatakusudo cp cdirip.static /usr/bin/cdirip08:32
MinatakuTHEN try that same command ;308:32
MinatakuYou should get a couple segments and a cuesheet08:33
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MinatakuLike, three .iso pieces and a .cue08:33
chris__Unsupported image version08:33
chris__ARGH08:33
Minataku>.<08:33
ubuntu_hey guys.08:33
chris__LOL08:33
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ubuntu_im in a bitta trouble08:33
ubuntu_care to help?08:33
ubuntu_or are you guys busy?08:33
chris__if i can yes08:33
chris__nope08:33
ubuntu_kk08:33
coreymon77guys08:33
chris__my image is bad i cant do anything i guess08:34
nosrednaekimubuntu_: hello08:34
coreymon77isnt qtparted able to resize ntfs partitions without formatting?08:34
Minatakuchris__: I've done all I can do, sorry XD08:34
ubuntu_hi all08:34
chris__yes08:34
nosrednaekimubuntu_: nope... the busy people are over at #ubuntu08:34
stevec_new clothes mights help08:34
chris__:(08:34
MinatakuThe last version of cdirip is from 200208:34
stevec_change yer hair style anarl08:34
nosrednaekimcoreymon77: not if its Vista's08:34
BluesKajchris__, altho i haven't worked with any ,, the new Acetoneiso2 appears to be able to merge split image files08:34
ubuntu_okay, so im in teh live cd right now08:34
ubuntu_my kubuntu install is wonky08:35
MinatakuBluesKaj: Doesn't matter, this old-ass version of cdirip can't handle newer CDI images |O08:35
chris__yes i downloaded it too08:35
MinatakuKinda looks like Geordi08:35
BluesKajMinataku, bummer :(08:35
chris__im gonna see if it works too08:35
ubuntu_in an attempt to get chinese on my computer, i followed the kde instructions at http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/08:35
ubuntu_and now im dead08:35
MinatakuBluesKaj: He's got "installed" a statically-compiled cdirip from my machine here :D08:35
BluesKaj!cn | ubuntu_08:36
ubotuubuntu_: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk08:36
ubuntu_no08:36
MinatakuThe install process being a simple copy operation to /usr/bin08:36
ubuntu_i know english08:36
Minataku:308:36
ubuntu_i just wanted chinese input08:36
MinatakuWhich is technically all install is08:36
ubuntu_but i went to said website08:36
ubuntu_and did08:36
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ubuntu_sudo aptitude install uim anthy scim-gtk2-immodule scim-uim scim-chinese scim-hangul scim-tables-zh08:36
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ubuntu_afterwards, i did a sudo aptitude remove uim anthy scim-gtk2-immodule scim-uim scim-chinese scim-hangul scim-tables-zh08:37
chris__lol08:37
chris__and then?08:37
ubuntu_and now whenever i start kde08:37
ubuntu_kate opens08:37
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ubuntu_with ~/.kde/Autostart/startscim08:37
MinatakuEasy08:37
BluesKajwhat file is kate opening ?08:37
Minatakurm ~/.kde/Autostart/startscim08:37
BluesKajok08:37
ubuntu_hmm08:38
ubuntu_rm?08:38
ubuntu_whats that command08:38
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MinatakuReMove08:38
ubuntu_okay08:38
ubuntu_so the thing is, i need to mount my partition08:38
BluesKajhehe08:38
ubuntu_inside the live cd08:38
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ubuntu_cuz konsole hates me in teh kde environment08:38
ubuntu_i installed08:38
MinatakuLooks like whoever made the package didn't do a cleanup properly08:38
Minatakuubuntu_: No need08:38
MinatakuUse a VT08:38
ubuntu_vt?08:38
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MinatakuWhen it boots into the installed system, hit Ctrl+Alt+F108:38
coreymon77everyone08:38
MinatakuLogin there and type the command08:39
coreymon77how do you resize ntfs partitions without reformatting08:39
ubuntu_hm08:39
coreymon77i though qtparted could do it08:39
MinatakuThen hit Alt+F7 then Ctrl+Alt+BkSp08:39
ubuntu_will that also solve my other issues?08:39
ardchoille!ntfs08:39
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse08:39
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Minatakuubuntu_: What other issues?08:39
ubuntu_everything on teh computer is slow-like08:39
chris__haha partitions08:39
akaAKAakahi to all!!!08:39
MinatakuIt might08:39
nosrednaekimcoreymon77: are you trying to resize a vista partiton?08:39
ubuntu_if i terminate kate08:39
MinatakuBut one problem at a time08:39
ubuntu_it'll keep giving me a error windoow08:39
coreymon77nosrednaekim: no, xp08:39
MinatakuFirst, do that and remove that file08:40
ubuntu_okay08:40
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sitowhat is the difference of kernel i386 and generic?08:40
MinatakuThen restart X1108:40
ubuntu_reboot into kde?08:40
nosrednaekimcoreymon77: hmmm well it can then. what makes you think it can't?08:40
ubuntu_or can i do it from the live cd, seeing as how i already in it08:40
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akaAKAakahow to install java runtime edition in my kubuntu??? i typed "java" in adept_manager but there isn't so much.. should i add another repo???08:40
Minatakuubuntu_: You can, but you have to mount the filesystem08:40
AFaithhello kubuntu users :P08:40
ubuntu_hmmm08:40
ubuntu_okay08:40
ubuntu_i'll get back to you08:40
Minatakuk08:40
ubuntu_from inside kubuntu08:40
chris__java08:40
chris__is good for phones08:41
chris__no for vcomputers08:41
coreymon77nosrednaekim: its not08:41
sitowhat is the difference of kernel i386 and generic?08:41
coreymon77nosrednaekim: the option is grayed out08:41
akaAKAakahow to install java runtime edition in my kubuntu??? i typed "java" in adept_manager but there isn't so much.. should i add another repo???08:41
nosrednaekimcoreymon77: are you running it as root?08:41
nosrednaekimAFaith: hello.!08:41
coreymon77yup08:42
AFaithi've just installed open arena on my feisty box08:42
Minatakuchris__: That cdirip binary is probably the most optimized bin you have; It's compiled for a Pentium 4 with MMX, SSE and SSE2 with optimization level 308:42
chris__feisty box?08:42
MinatakuXD08:42
nosrednaekimhmm.08:42
chris__lol08:42
BluesKajakaAKAaka, go to youtube08:42
MinatakuI believe most stock *buntu bins are compiled -O0 and for a 386 :308:42
AFaithhello there nosrednaekim! i've almost forgot to say hello :P08:42
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AFaithhello BluesKaj! my old mate from Kubuntu channel :P08:43
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BluesKajerr sorry akaAKAaka java.com08:43
akaAKAakaah ok :) thanks08:43
akaAKAakaand what about updates?08:43
akaAKAakashould i update manually???08:43
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MinatakuBluesKaj: Let me guess "Go to YouTube and forget you were ever here asking about Java"08:43
MinatakuXD08:43
BluesKajhi AFaith , I'm still here08:43
BluesKajwas thinking flash Minataku08:44
MinatakuHeehee08:44
AFaithi see ... how it's going ? everything ok ? how's your life :P ?08:44
coreymon77nosrednaekim: nvm, fixed it08:44
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nosrednaekimcoreymon77: what was the problem?08:44
coreymon77nosrednaekim: needed ntfsprogs08:44
nosrednaekimcoreymon77: ok..08:45
BluesKajgood on all fronts here AFaith ...how are you doing ?08:45
coreymon77nosrednaekim: i would have thought that apt would install that along with qtparted08:45
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coreymon77nosrednaekim: but i guess it didnt08:46
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AFaithi'm very glad to hear that BluesKaj! i'm not doing so well, but what a hell, i'm alive and thats the most important thing, isnt't it ? :)) and my feisty box is running, so... that compensates all other minor problems if i can name them like this08:46
akaAKAakai don't want to loose the security side of the autoupate for java.. any ideas?08:46
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BluesKajakaAKAaka, this is linux ...don't think you should worry08:48
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nullkuhli have beryl runnin on xgl in feisty with ati card,,, its workin so fine with the core downgrade to version 2.0 ,,, but i have no direct rendering in this session Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display "localhost:1.0". direct rendering:08:49
cox377does anyone know a command that will restart all usb devices?08:49
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ubuntu_hey guys08:49
ubuntu_this is my windoze lappy08:49
ubuntu_i need to know the command to enter command line again08:49
akaAKAakaok i solved the problem08:50
akaAKAaka$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so08:50
ubuntu_where it asks for username and passwd08:50
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BluesKajctrl+alt+F108:51
nullkuhli have beryl runnin on xgl in feisty with ati card,,, its workin so fine with the core downgrade to version 2.0 ,,, but i have no direct rendering in this session Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display "localhost:1.0". direct rendering:08:51
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Minatakuubuntu_: Enter the username and password of you08:51
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Minatakurm ~/.kde/Autostart/startscim08:52
arooI have my wifi card working perfectly with ndiswrapper, but I have to set it all up each time at boot, is there anyway to get it to work on boot?08:52
naeocan someone help me with my xorg.conf? I installed kubuntu with VGA. But now i have switched to HDMI. I've set up kdm to autologin(But it does not login). I'm using the nvidia binarydriver, and the module is running.. I've run nvidia-xconfig. I also set up things with nvidia-settings(I set resolution to AUTO). Still.. nothing displayed on the TV... And its only connected with the HDMI cable..08:52
MinatakuThen hit Ctrl+Alt+F7 to switch back to X11 and hit Ctrl+Alt+BkSp to restart it08:52
naeohttp://pastebin.ca/55673108:52
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BluesKajnullkuhl, this tutorial may conflict with xgl , but the modded and patched fglrx driver should run beryl http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty...but I dunno fore sure :08:53
ubuntu_file does not exist...08:53
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Scabdateshowdy08:53
Minatakuubuntu_: Oi08:53
MinatakuWhat files DO exist in there?08:53
ubuntu_whoops08:53
ubuntu_i thought it was scimstart08:53
ubuntu_its startscim08:53
ScabdatesCan anybody help me with my WiFi problems in Kubuntu?08:53
MinatakuOi08:53
ubuntu_thank god for the dir command08:53
MinatakuXD08:53
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ubuntu_now ctrl alt backspace?08:54
Minatakuubuntu_: Ctrl+Alt+F7 first08:54
MinatakuThen login to KDE08:54
ubuntu_kk08:54
MinatakuIt _should_ be fixed now08:54
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lupul!ATI08:54
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:54
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akaAKAakaif i have access with "ssh -X" to my second pc, how can i see what's going on in its :0 DISPLAY ?08:55
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MinatakuakaAKAaka: Doesn't work like that08:55
ubuntu_the kde wallet service - kde daemon isnt responding08:55
Scabdates?08:55
Minatakuubuntu_: Can you just click past that?08:55
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ubuntu_i need it to access wireless wep key08:56
Minataku@.@08:56
akaAKAakaMinataku: is it possible to do what i said ?08:56
ubuntu_okay08:56
MinatakuakaAKAaka: Quite possibly, however I don't know how08:56
ScabdatesDoes NDISwrapper come with Kubuntu default?08:56
ubuntu_now i can see the text08:56
payamIs that true that "The Lord of the Rings"has been made by Linux?08:56
MinatakuI think VNC can do it08:56
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ubuntu_but i cant type my passwd08:57
ubuntu_in08:57
akaAKAakaokay.. i'll read around...08:57
ubuntu_the keyboard wont respond in the kwallet window08:57
Minatakuubuntu_: Ugh... those input things must have goofed something up08:57
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akaAKAakakillall -9 kwalletmanager08:57
ubuntu_hmm08:57
payamIs that true that "The Lord of the Rings"has been made by Linux?08:57
Minatakuubuntu_: Hang around, I'm stumped at this point08:57
Minatakupayam: I don't know08:57
MinatakuTry Google08:57
ubuntu_keyboard works everywhere else08:58
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Minatakuubuntu_: Hrm08:58
MinatakuSo it's NOT messed up08:58
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Minatakuubuntu_: Type it in and hit enter08:58
MinatakuMaybe it's just not echoing08:58
andres_i need help with my TV card08:58
ubuntu_days like this make me hate ubuntu08:58
ubuntu_and wish for the days when i dual booted08:58
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ubuntu_but enough of that08:58
ubuntu_urgh08:59
ubuntu_any ideas?08:59
MinatakuNone, sorry, can't imagine why it wouldn't work in just kwallet09:00
ubuntu_ugh09:00
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ubuntu_HEY IT WORKS09:00
ubuntu_srry for the caps09:00
MinatakuCool :D09:00
amin81rysiek|pl: Hey! whats up?09:01
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ubuntu_and now it doesnt09:01
ubuntu_i entered like 5 char09:01
ubuntu_of my 10 char password09:01
MinatakuO.o09:01
ubuntu_and the KDE Crash Handler is coming up again and again09:01
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ubuntu_from me terminating Kate09:01
amin81sc009:01
Minatakuubuntu_: Yeah, you broke something bad >.<09:01
frano486ciao a tutti09:01
ubuntu_damn09:01
ubuntu_anything i can do to fix it?09:02
MinatakuI can't think of anything, stick around, though09:02
MinatakuI'm sure someone will come along who can09:02
Minataku!it | frano48609:02
ubotufrano486: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:02
Minataku:309:02
ubuntu_dang09:02
frano486ubotu: sorry09:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:02
Scabdates:((09:03
Minataku!info ndiswrapper09:03
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ubotuPackage ndiswrapper does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:03
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MinatakuPiece of crap09:03
Minataku!ndiswrapper09:03
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:03
MinatakuThere ya, go, Scabdates09:03
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mykyall: testing anyone beryl in notebook grafics card ati xpress 200 if yes plaese help me09:04
Scabdatesit seems like its detecting my card, but it's just not connecting to the internet, and when i try to fix the DNS, IP, and subnet info it tells me the gateway is invalid and won't let me enable it09:04
Minatakuubuntu_: Just hang around, I'm sure someone can help you out09:04
ubuntu_sure09:04
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ubuntu_im talking to someone else09:05
ubuntu_also09:05
ubuntu_on aim09:05
MinatakuAh, cool09:05
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rysiek|plamin81: oh, hey, just hacking around; how about you? :)09:05
MinatakuScabdates: Set the gateway to that of the router09:05
Minataku*the IP of the router09:05
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zippermyky: from what i know, you cannot use AIGLX on the 200 series09:05
Scabdatesthat's what i did09:05
ankithello09:05
Scabdatesi just took my windows settings09:05
MinatakuScabdates: Hrm09:05
zippermyky: which makes everything easier09:05
soulrider_!vmware09:06
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers09:06
ankit<B> i need help guys </B>09:06
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mykyzipper: i use fglrx09:06
MinatakuScabdates: DHCP on the router?09:06
MinatakuOr static?09:06
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ankithelp me with nerolinux09:06
Scabdates192.168.1.109:06
Scabdatesstatic09:06
BlueDevil!virtualizers09:06
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications09:06
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zippermyky: as your driver, yes. But you want to use beryl right? Then AIGLX is the easiest way to go... i gave up when i found out that it cannot be used on that model. It is possible however, just more bothersome. Try asking in #ubuntu-effects for more info09:07
MinatakuHm09:07
BlueDevil!virtualbox!09:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about virtualbox! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:07
Minataku!kqemu09:07
ubotukqemu is a kernel module (now free under the GPL license) for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm8609:07
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BlueDevil!virtualbox09:07
ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox09:07
MinatakuJust checking09:07
Scabdatesdon't know what could be the problem :(09:07
MinatakuScabdates: Me either09:07
Scabdates:909:08
Scabdates:(09:08
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mykyzipper: thank's very much09:08
gon!vmware09:08
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers09:08
zippermyky: np09:08
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ankitcan anybody help me with NeroLinux09:09
ankitcan anybody help me with NeroLinux09:09
llutzankit: ask ahead, you paid for support09:09
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DonMCNHey guys, I was in the process of uninstalling Kubuntu from my system, and I did so by going into the Windows CD, fixing the MBR (sucessfully), and then I went into Windows, and went into the Disk Manager and I deleted the 2 partitions made my Kubuntu, but now I just have a 8.5GB unallocated space thing, and I cant get it to add itself to my 1 and only partition.09:10
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ankiti have installed nerolinux 3 but i have entered the key wrong09:10
ScabdatesMinataku: No ideas?09:11
arooIs it possible to remove the Kubuntu boot splash?09:11
ankitcan i get .deb file of lower version09:11
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jhutchins_ltSo howcome I can't seem to mount an NTFS partition as user readable?  Defaults to root only (I know it's supposed to be ro).09:12
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arooro is read only09:12
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BluesKajDonMCN, reformat the old kubuntu partition to ntfs then you should be able to expand09:13
MinatakuScabdates: Not one, sorry >.<09:13
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DonMCNThe old kubuntu partitions are deleted09:13
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DonMCNand now the only thing listed in Computer Management is C: 20GB NTFS and Unallocated Space 8.54GB09:14
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Luciouscan anyone tell me how to setup a new KDM them from inside KDE?09:14
BluesKajcheck the options DonMCN, it should be feasable ...I09:14
yknottankit: www.nero.com09:15
BluesKajd use GParted Live cd Partition editor09:15
ankityaaa but i want lowe version09:15
BluesKajdiscmanager may not be able to do it09:15
DonMCNyeah I dont have a blank CD lol09:15
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jhutchins_ltWhy would anybody run nero if they didn't have to?09:16
MinatakuI had never heard of that Virtualbox09:16
jhutchins_ltankit: What's wrong with k3b?09:16
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MinatakuI'ma emerge it then mess with it09:16
MinatakuI'll let BluesKaj take over09:16
MinatakuXD09:16
ankitoh wht's that09:17
DonMCNcan I just use the partition manager in the Kubuntu Live CD?09:17
ankiti have not tried that09:17
nullkuhl i have beryl runnin on xgl in feisty with ati card,,, its workin so fine with the core downgrade to version 2.0 ,,, but i have no direct rendering in this session Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display "localhost:1.0". direct rendering: No09:17
sebastianhooker_nero has the best name, nero burning rom, who wouldn't want to run something like that?09:17
BluesKajwell if you must run windows jhutchins, nero's the one utiility that I've found that works09:17
jhutchins_ltDonMCN: As far as I know, diskmanager won't grow a partition.  You can create a new NTFS partition and join it to the old one, but I wouldn't recommend it.  User patimage to grow the FS instead.09:18
ankitwhere is k3b...lol09:18
yknottmultimedia09:18
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ankitok09:19
ankitthanks09:19
yknottor alt+f2  then k3b09:19
jhutchins_ltNero on linux.  Shudder.09:19
ankithey guys one more thing09:19
blekosanybody knows how to turn on spellcheck in kmail?09:19
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ankiti have installed ubuntu and i have also installed Kubuntu Kde on ubuntu09:20
BluesKajnerolinux, jhutchins_lt :)09:20
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jhutchins_ltThe horror.09:20
Lucioushow do i install the applet that allows me to configure KDM and use themes?09:20
ankitso i have created a DVD in ubuntu ...but that DVD cannot be played on DVD player..but the data can be seen on computer09:21
jhutchins_lt!themes | Lucious09:21
ubotuLucious: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy09:21
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Luciousjhutchins: that didn't work :P09:21
binksjhutchins_lt: i agree nerolinux why *binks shudders too09:21
jhutchins_ltankit: The only program I've found that will build a video DVD is tovid.09:21
yknottankit: you need to complete the "dvd video" profile; not just data dvd09:21
BluesKajjhutchins, between, tovid, k9copy and K3b ...I think I have most of the media stuff covered :)09:22
ankithmm....i knew but donot know how to do thaat09:22
binksankit: what have you created it using ie tools09:22
jhutchins_lttovid is a very nice set of wrapper scripts.09:22
Minataku!info file09:22
yknottankit: which program had you used? k3b just click the video dvd icon09:22
ubotufile: Determines file type using "magic" numbers. In component main, is standard. Version 4.19-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 120 kB09:22
BluesKajtovid rocks!09:22
MinatakuOh, dear09:22
binksBluesKaj: avidimux kmediafactory k3b << the best way09:22
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jhutchins_ltSince it's just scripts, it's cool to run the SVN version too.09:23
binkstovid is great but still the gui is pants09:23
pauljwblekos: go to create a new message and under options is automatic spellcheck.09:23
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BluesKajI don't use the tovid GUI09:23
ankitin k3b ...there is not burn video DVD09:23
jhutchins_ltI often use the gui's (there are two) to experiment, then use the command they generate to actually make the DVD.09:23
ankitthere is Data dvd and DVD iso09:23
binkscl is ok unless you need 15 episodes on one disc it gets a little hairy09:23
ankitwhere's video DVD i am not able to find it09:24
sebastianhooker_is there a uTorrent for linux?09:24
yknottankit: which k3b do you have?09:24
yknottsebastianhooker_: no but you can use it through wine09:24
BluesKajthe cmnds are generated in the cli as well, jhutchins_lt09:24
ankiti am newbie to linux...so bare with me guys....lol09:24
blekoscant i have this as default for every msg?09:24
MinatakuMmmm... soon I shall have Virtualbox, compiled specifically for my system with super optimizations MWAHAHAHAHA09:24
binksankit: file newproject09:24
ankitk3b 3.5.209:24
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MinatakuCompiling things is a perfect excuse to take a nap09:24
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MinatakuY'all don't have that luxury09:24
MinatakuXD09:24
binksthe choose video dvd09:25
ankiti got it...thanks binks09:25
binks:)09:25
yknott;D09:25
MinatakuHeehee, sorry, getting bored X309:25
ankitwow this chat is helpful....i tried on yahoo rooms for help..:(09:26
binksMinataku: you buildin gentoo or summat09:26
BluesKajvitualbox..what you gonna run in it?09:26
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Minatakubinks: I use Gentoo, yeah09:26
binksBluesKaj: i have looked at squeak today for kids programming its in the repos looks cool09:26
MinatakuBluesKaj: I'll grab some kinda PC thing outta my OS collection here09:27
MinatakuSee if it's any better than VMWare09:27
MinatakuSo far, I'd have to rate them like this09:27
BluesKajcool binks09:27
ankithey guys one more Q........any one have given IZo-007 exa,...oracle 9i SQL certification09:27
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pauljwi didn't like it as much as vmware server, Minataku.09:28
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binksankit: your asking for pirate stuff are you09:28
MinatakuBochs, <EMPTY SLOT>, <EMPTY SLOT>, <EMPTY SLOT>, <EMPTY SLOT>, <EMPTY SLOT>, QEMU+KQEMU, QEMU, VMWare09:28
MinatakuWe'll see where VBox ends up09:28
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MinatakuAs is obvious, I hate Bochs09:28
binksMinataku: i just hate manchester united09:29
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MinatakuOnly sports I like is motorsports09:29
MinatakuMinus NASCAR09:29
MinatakuWhich is just boring09:29
ankitno09:29
binksf1 is soooo boring09:29
MinatakuNot a fan of IRL either09:29
MinatakuI need road courses09:29
nosrednaekimhello, the titlebars of gtk windows keep disappearing while in Beryl.09:30
MinatakuOtherwise it's like watching golf09:30
nosrednaekimbut all qt windows are ok09:30
ankitbinks: it's certification exam09:30
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binksworld rally is great09:30
Minatakubinks: He's asking for cheats09:30
Minatakulol09:30
MinatakuRally is great, yeah09:30
binkswell thats what i thought09:30
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nosrednaekimthe windows go up into the right hand corner and stick there with not title bars, they do have window borders..09:31
binksMinataku: i work for BMW in the uk so i get around fast cars alot09:31
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Minatakubinks: Cool09:31
ankitu guys like ubuntu or kubuntu ????????09:31
MinatakuI like Gentoo09:31
jzillaits personal pref.09:31
jzillaeither gnome or kde09:31
binksankit: i like both09:31
ankityeaaa09:31
nosrednaekimMinataku: then why do you hang out here ( not that I don't like you or anything... just wonderin)09:32
MinatakuEh... GNOME is crap09:32
Billiardhey guys when i use checkinstall it fails to install the deb and has this error...  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/crtbegin.o', which is also in package gcc-4.109:32
Minatakunosrednaekim: I like to help09:32
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nosrednaekimMinataku: yeah... and kubuntu users are easier to help09:32
Minatakunosrednaekim: Heehee, not really09:32
MinatakuIf it's Kubuntu-specific I really can't help all that much09:32
ankiti found KDE little similar to windows09:33
ankit.....lol09:33
MinatakuI've realized that for simple apps, I can compile them for people09:33
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binksjust imagine the gentoo irc room 4 days between replies coz of compiling09:33
nosrednaekimMinataku: lol09:33
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MinatakuThey'll be a little large because I have to do them statically, though09:33
zipperbinks: but think of the performance gains! At least 0.1% !09:33
binksankit: fact is windows is like kde09:33
sebastianhooker_is there any links that will help me set up SMB sharing?09:33
Minatakubinks: Uh, I'm compiling something as we speak09:33
binkszipper: looool09:33
ankitoh...hahaaa09:33
MinatakuSo that's neither funny nor accurate.09:33
StErGi0shello.My sound card was working fine but now i have no sound anyone can help?09:33
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zipperMinataku: not accurate, but funny none the less :)09:34
binksMinataku: touchy touchy09:34
MinatakuNo, not funny at all.09:34
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binkshands up who laughed09:34
MinatakuIf you're gonna be like that you're welcome to leave this channel09:34
zipperMinataku: So you define whats funny or not? Either way, it made me giggle :)09:34
sebastianhooker_StErGi0s: restart your computer09:34
Minatakusebastianhooker_: NO09:34
jzillai have /home on my second hd, is it possible to format to a 32bit enviroment without formating /home as well?09:34
Billiardsebastianhooker_ i can help u with smb09:34
MinatakuThat's Windows thinking09:34
binksMinataku: are you french09:34
StErGi0ssebastianhooker_: i dont think this is the solution09:35
MinatakuStErGi0s: Check that nothing has reset the mixer controls09:35
Minatakubinks: No09:35
StErGi0sMinataku: how can i do that? sorry in new to linux :S09:35
MinatakuStErGi0s: I believe Kubuntu has alsamixer09:36
Minataku!info alsamixer09:36
ubotuPackage alsamixer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:36
sebastianhooker_Billiard: why do i get the invalid perameters error?09:36
MinatakuAh, screw you, ya stupid bot09:36
Minataku!alsamixer09:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:36
binkslol09:36
Minataku!alsa09:36
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP309:36
Billiardsebastianhooker_ were u messing with the smb config file?09:36
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MinatakuYeah, arts, that makes things work better... NOT09:36
nosrednaekimStErGi0s: use kmis and turn all channels and turn up the volume on all channels09:36
MinatakuBut follow those directions there09:36
Billiardsebastianhooker_: go on private chat09:37
sebastianhooker_StErGi0s: is your computer plugged in?09:37
MinatakuChances are arts blew up or something stupid like that09:37
sebastianhooker_Billiard: i am09:37
ankithey guys from where can i find old version s/w09:37
nosrednaekimStErGi0s: sorry... kmix09:37
gon!epson09:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about epson - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:37
nosrednaekimsebastianhooker_:  Billiard you have to be registed to privately chat09:37
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Billiardi am09:38
StErGi0sok let me have a look09:38
Billiardalso registered09:38
MinatakuSorry, I'm not one to take jerky jokes about my distro of choice sitting down09:38
sebastianhooker_Billiard: message me first09:38
sebastianhooker_Billiard: you are not getting my messages i don't think09:38
MinatakuIf you're gonna pick on a distro, pick on Mandriva and it's pay-for-support system09:38
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nosrednaekimMinataku: oh man I hate that... you can't even get a madwifi package!09:38
Billiardsebastianhooker_ did u do ur password or w/e09:38
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MinatakuImagine, you walk in here and I ask you for your credit card number09:38
MinatakuXD09:38
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MinatakuOr your "support contract ID"09:39
sebastianhooker_Billiard: how?09:39
Billiardoops09:39
ankit.09:39
binksMinataku: it was only a jokeget over it09:39
amin81rysiek|pl: are you back??09:39
binksim outa here later all09:39
MinatakuOf course I'd ask you in French, too, since a French distro, gotta be in French, sitting at your "ordinateur" because they're too snooty to use the word "computer"09:39
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Billiardguys how do i type him how to indentify his password09:40
MinatakuSorry >.<09:40
Billiardwithout doing the command09:40
nosrednaekimthen I'd say "adeiu Mandriva"09:40
MinatakuI need a nap, blame that09:40
MinatakuXD09:40
yknottMinataku: well i can see valid reasons for that09:40
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yknottBilliard: press ctrl+enter09:40
modjoummm09:40
BluesKajthat's why mandriva is called an enterprise OS09:40
Billiard/msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>09:40
mykyzipper: can i ask you how was that  channel?09:40
Billiardyknott ty09:40
jzillaI've installed 64bit Kubuntu to /hda1 - with /home on hdb1 - I wish to reformat to a 32 bit environment. Can I do so without formating /home?09:41
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modjohi, i have some troubles with kaffeine and no one in the kaffeine channel seems to be alive09:41
yknottjzilla: yes09:41
rysiek|plamin81: I'm here all the time, why?09:41
MinatakuBluesKaj: Except it's not. It's a home OS. They just make you pay for any kind of support whatsoever.09:41
mykyzipper: can i ask you how was that  channel?09:41
yknottmodjo: mix it with a healthy dose of alcohol 120%, that should be sufficient09:41
yknottmodjo: ;)09:41
BluesKaji still remember mandrake09:41
jzillayknott: While installing, just remount /home in the same place? That wont upset anything?09:41
yknottjzilla: correct09:41
jzillathanks09:41
modjommmm didnt work either09:42
MinatakuBluesKaj: Same distro, same deal09:42
jzillabbl!09:42
modjo:(09:42
Billiardsebastianhooker_: did u see that /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>09:42
MinatakuMandrake was the one that started with the pay support09:42
modjoi have some trobules it wont play a different region dvds even after the libdvdcss2 plugin09:42
ankitBye everybody thanks for helping me....09:42
MinatakuThen they changed their name09:42
modjoany ideas>/09:42
modjo?09:42
zippermyky: sorry, #ubuntu-effects09:42
modjoit just crashes09:42
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nosrednaekimmodjo: in order to play a different regions DVD, you have to take a plane trip there.... didn't you know that>09:43
BluesKajyeah, well i have no intentions of trying it anyway09:43
nosrednaekim:-D09:43
Minatakumodjo: Launch it in Konsole, read the errors when it crashes09:43
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MinatakuEither that or use a different player09:43
modjocan you tell me how to launch it from console?09:43
Minatakumodjo: Open Konsole, type "kaffiene"09:43
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nosrednaekimmodjo: pop up a konsole and type "kaffeine"09:43
yknottmodjo: alt+f2; click options/run in terminal window; command: kaffeine09:44
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modjoi got this09:44
MinatakuI like A/UX, type command, Pretzel+K, ogle commando window09:45
MinatakuXD09:45
modjoX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16909:45
nosrednaekim!pastebin09:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:45
DragnslcrOgle commando window?09:45
DragnslcrI don't think I want to know09:45
Minatakuhttp://s95018220.onlinehome.us/random/auximages/Picture_10.png09:45
BluesKajhe could check thr k-menu/multimedia09:45
MinatakuIt's part of A/UX09:45
Minatakumodjo: That's bogus09:45
MinatakuIgnore it09:45
modjoX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16909:46
MinatakuGet it to where it crashes09:46
modjoi meant09:46
modjoFailed to open device09:46
MinatakuYeah, it's bogus, ignore it09:46
nosrednaekimmodjo: skip all that.. its normal09:46
modjo  Major opcode:  14509:46
modjoresource id?09:46
nosrednaekimyeah yeah.... pastebin it..09:46
Minatakumodjo: Just try to use the program like you normally would09:46
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modjomajor code? minor code?09:46
MinatakuLet it crash09:46
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MinatakuTHEN tell us what it says09:46
modjook lemme do that09:46
MinatakuIgnore the X error crap :309:46
modjoQLayout "unnamed" added to QWidget "unnamed", which already has a layout09:47
MinatakuDragnslcr: On that screencap, feel free to chop off the filename for more screenshots09:47
firecrotchHi, does anyone know of a program for printing barcodes that can include the press of the <enter> key?  KBarcode can't do this, apparently09:47
MinatakuAnd poke around all you want, too09:47
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MinatakuThat's my site, you're allowed09:47
MinatakuXD09:47
nosrednaekimmodjo: I get that too... I just gave up on kaffeine.... I use codeine now09:47
MinatakuYeah, try something different09:47
MinatakuKaffiene seems like a piece of crap09:48
modjonosrednaekim:when do you get that?09:48
nosrednaekimmodjo:get what?09:48
modjowhen does it crashes for you09:48
modjo?09:48
modjolemme try codeine09:48
modjodoes any one know a shortcut keys to open de start menu?09:49
BluesKajthere's a patch built into the new kaffeine .. it's broken on feisty after the upgrade from edgy , just totally remove it and reinstall ....09:49
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modjoit came wit my feisty09:49
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: already tried that... and besides, I didn't upgrade09:49
BluesKajcuz ya gotta reinstall kubuntu-desktop as well09:50
mauriciohello, can anybody help me with my NVIDIA propietary drivers?09:50
mauricioi got a geforce 6200 LE09:50
BluesKajuninstalling Kaffeine drags kubunru desktop with it09:50
nosrednaekimmauricio: sure.... install " restricted-manager"09:51
mauricioi did it, nosrednaekim09:51
nosrednaekimmauricio: and then run "sudo resctricted-manager"09:51
mauricioand it does'nt work well09:51
BluesKajwell for those interested , that's how i fixed Kaffeine :)09:51
mauricioi did that too nosrednaekim09:51
nosrednaekimmauricio: and you installed the nvidia drivers from there too?09:51
mauricionosrednaekim: does'nt work09:52
nosrednaekimmauricio: ah.. ok09:52
nosrednaekimwhats that command guys for setting up nvidia?09:52
modjoummm everybody09:52
zippermauricio: there is a great guide on the ubuntu wiki09:52
modjocodeine sucks too09:52
modjoUsing host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".09:52
modjoor maybe i suck at it09:52
BluesKajanyway time to BBQ .... BBL09:52
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mauriciozipper: nosrednaekim, i'm trying automatix now09:53
modjoafeter playing the dvd with codeine or kaffeine it crashes09:53
zippermauricio: i cannot recommend automatix09:53
modjothe crash handler tellm e signal 11 SIGSEVG09:53
zippermauricio: its great when it works... but if something goes wrong, its impossible to debug/troubleshoot09:53
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modjoanyone can gumme any idea?09:53
mauriciozipper: ubuntu wiki works for kubuntu too?09:54
zippermodjo: i use VLC for all my video needs. I believe it can also handle dvd's.09:54
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zippermauricio: for most subjects, yes.09:54
modjoi dont think its my dvd player09:54
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modjoi think its somethign ith the plugins09:54
mauriciozipper: then i'll try09:54
mauricionow09:54
Noobhello09:54
modjohello noob09:55
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zippermauricio: since kubuntu and ubuntu is generally identical, apart from kubuntu using KDE and ubuntu using gnome/sawfish09:55
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zipperare*09:55
zippermauricio: if you have a nvidia card, its pretty easy.09:55
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Noobi'm having problems dual booting xp and kubuntu and need some help09:55
heleneGreets, everyone...09:55
zipperwelcome09:55
modjoin which order you installed them?09:55
Noobxp09:56
sebastianhooker_Noob: uninstall windows09:56
firecrotchwelcome, helene09:56
Noobkubuntu09:56
mauriciozipper: for now, i did try a lot of ways, everyone fails09:56
Noobsame hdd  split partitions09:56
modjothen i am a noob to because that should do the trick09:56
heleneCan someone tell me the name of the package for the default powermanagement systray applet? I'm wanting to get rid of it since I'm using kpowersave instead.09:56
firecrotchNoob: Are you getting a Grub Error 21?09:56
sebastianhooker_Noob: Just uninstall windows09:57
Noobno the systems both install fine then when i restert kubuntu i can enter the boot loader but no xp option09:57
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zippermauricio: For me... i just installed the nvidia-glx and restricted-modules packages, changed "nv" to "nvidia" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf - and it worked. I would highly recommend you take a look at the wiki first though09:57
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Noobi need windows for no09:57
antiroachis there no longer an add/remove applications thing in kde 3.5.6 (feisty) ?09:57
firecrotchsebastianhooker_: Obviously he is dual-booting for a reasom09:57
Noobfor now09:57
mauriciozipper: ok, i will, then i tell u09:58
mauriciozipper: thnks!09:58
Noobmainly for my ipod and i'm still getting used to linux09:58
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zippermauricio: you're welcome09:58
gentoofan23helene: You mean guidance?09:58
llutzNoob: paste the output of "sudo fdisk -l" and the file /boot/grub/menu.lst to pastebin09:58
modjodoes some one know whats a plf source?09:58
zippermauricio: dont feel bad if i dont respond though, should be studying right now.09:59
llutz!paste|noob09:59
ubotunoob: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:59
cycohello09:59
llutzmodjo: penguin-liberation.front, medibuntu now09:59
modjotns llutz09:59
mauriciozipper: the thing is, i lost all my day trying this, this is terrible, this is not good, for no one09:59
NoobUsage: fdisk [-l]  [-b SSZ]  [-u]  device09:59
NoobE.g.: fdisk /dev/hda  (for the first IDE disk)09:59
Noob  or: fdisk /dev/sdc  (for the third SCSI disk)09:59
Noob  or: fdisk /dev/eda  (for the first PS/2 ESDI drive)09:59
Noob  or: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0  or: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0  (for RAID devices)09:59
helenegentoofan23: Umm... Not sure, sorry.09:59
llutzNoob: to pastebin!09:59
gentoofan23helene: It is the default one, so yes that is the one you probably mean10:00
llutz!paste|Noob10:00
ubotuNoob: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:00
helenegentoofan23: Is it safe to remove that?10:00
Noobsorry i didn't read the pastebin thing before i posted10:00
gentoofan23Yes.10:00
zippermauricio: funny that.... i recently spend all day getting an ATI card working in windows, while i installed the nvidia drivers in linux in about 5 minutes :)10:00
heleneOhh... Nevermind. I just saw it contains several other important things, so I guess not.10:00
zippermauricio: but then again, i would bet i've done it about 100 times by now, so...10:01
cycoI got a gtk/gdk error with firefox, do you have that too ?10:01
mauriciook zipper, thnks, i will tell u10:01
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helenezipper: Were you able to get those divx deb's?10:02
zippermauricio: good luck. You havent tried anything in linux before you've been forced to do a complete re-install cus' you f*cked something up too badly :)10:02
zipperhelene: mike? And yeah... i was. Still not able to play the video though =/10:03
zipperhelene: but to be honest, i havent had time to play around with it too much10:03
helenezipper: Yeah, still setting up my grandmother's comp. Heh10:03
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helenezipper: That's weird. You shouldn't really have to play around with it - It was automatic on my end.10:03
zipperhelene: but didnt you use automatix for it?10:03
heleneOhh yeah10:04
heleneCould be you're missing one of the packages10:04
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heleneBut then, maybe not10:04
zipperhelene: have you set mplayer as default application or something?10:04
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coreymon77guys10:05
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coreymon77how do you add a label toa partition10:05
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llutzcoreymon77: ext2/3: e2label10:05
helenezipper: System-wide? No, but installing mozilla-mplayer should automatically make it the default for Firefox10:06
coreymon77fat3210:06
coreymon77llutz: fat32 partition10:06
zipperhelene: hmm... since i already have that package, i should be set to go10:06
zipperhelene: sigh, feel like trying my luck with automatix10:06
llutzcoreymon77: ask in a dos/win-channel :) sry no idea10:06
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gon!gutenprint10:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gutenprint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:07
modjomy kaffeine says: the source cant be read, maybe you dont have enough rghts for this10:07
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modjo!kaffeine10:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kaffeine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:07
heleneDoes anyone know how to make it so Power Manager doesn't start automatically? I'm trying to make KPowersave the default power management program, or at least just have it start when I log in instead of Power Manager.10:07
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modjoi thought linux could do anything windows did10:08
helenemodjo: Who told you that?10:08
Panda200xAn idiot10:08
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modjoa linux user10:09
heleneYup10:09
modjowhy is he an idiot?10:09
Panda200xBecause it can't10:09
heleneBecause he's wrong. ;-)10:09
modjolike what?10:09
Panda200xUnless he used Wine and thought10:09
zippermodjo: like... playing most games.10:09
modjobesides games10:09
zippermodjo: and do BSOD's for no reason10:09
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helenelol10:09
Panda200xI use linux and I know linux can't do everything windows can do10:09
Panda200xI never got a BSOD :D10:10
Panda200xAnd I'm not lying :P10:10
StErGi0swell kmix is on at all channels but still no sound :(10:10
heleneBut then, Windows can't do everything Linux can either, so it goes both ways.10:10
zipperPanda200x: couldnt it just be your ignorance? :)10:10
Panda200xNope10:10
heleneJust depends on what you value more.10:10
Panda200xI just never upgrade10:10
Panda200xmy hardware etc10:10
Panda200xunless you count vista10:10
heleneSo no one here knows how to change the default power manager?10:10
modjoi just wanted to play different region dvd....10:10
modjo:(10:11
Panda200xI've had a RSOD <310:11
zipperred screen... ?10:11
Panda200xIt's a boot error10:11
zipperi usually get the always-cool kernel panicks10:11
modjoall i do is whine at my irc client with a dvd10:11
zipperwhen removing ram blocks while the pc is running and stuff like that10:11
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Panda200x:P10:12
Panda200xI can't do anything now :/10:12
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cyco I got a gtk/gdk error with firefox under feisty, do you have that too ?10:12
Panda200xI hate upgrading10:12
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modjocan any tell me how can i open the all aplications menu with my keyboard?10:12
helenemodjo: Alt+F110:12
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modjoyesss10:13
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modjothats what i was looking for, tnx helene!10:13
helenemodjo: No problem10:13
Kartibokmodjo: or my favorite - Alt + Space10:13
modjokatapult rocks but i was looking for f1 option10:14
Kartibokand type in what you want10:14
Kartibok;)10:14
Panda200xI never use katapult10:14
heleneIf Katapult didn't look like shit when Beryl's running, I would be all over it10:14
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modjomy katapult looks good under beryl10:14
Panda200xIf only I could run Beryl10:14
Panda200xxD10:14
modjobut my beryl looks glitchy10:14
heleneWhat kind of cards do you two have?10:15
helenevideo cards*10:15
Panda200xI have a crappy intel-based one10:15
modjothe "glassy windows effect" doesnt look  good10:15
modjointel based on my satellite10:15
helenePanda200x: i810 ?10:15
Panda200xi850 i think, I acutqally have no clue10:15
Panda200x:P10:15
Panda200xAny way I can find out in Konsole?10:15
modjopanda i think you CAN run beryl10:16
Panda200x:O10:16
Panda200xI thought I couldn't10:16
Panda200xxD10:16
Kartibokhelene: Just tried it with beryl, it looks fine.....so I must admint I always loose my superkarumba stuff10:16
modjoi am, with may laptop video card10:16
jhutchinsPanda200x: lspci10:16
helenePanda200x: Oh ok. Well, I *believe* that if it's Intel, if it's gonna work at all, it'll pretty much be OotB.10:16
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Panda200x00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)10:16
modjohelene: OotB?10:16
Panda200xWhatever that is10:16
Panda200xxD10:16
heleneout of the box10:17
timdhow can i mount my second HDD?10:17
helenePanda200x: It's an 86510:17
modjojust install beryl and try it out10:17
timdit's a sata and kubu is on an IDE if it matters10:17
Panda200xSo it can or can't?10:17
Panda200x:P10:17
modjotry it, lets figure it out10:17
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jzillaman - that was sooo easy, im impressed10:18
Panda200xI wish I could but Adept (Upgrading) is too busy * Stopping Bluetooth serivces...10:18
Panda200xxD10:18
heleneKartibok: Weird. Whenever I tried it, the background, which is supposed to be transparent, is just all jumbled lines10:18
helenePanda200x: Not sure. I know for sure it doesn't work with i810's... They have a card-compatibility list somewhere on the wiki, I think.10:18
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Panda200xI can't access anything atm10:19
Panda200xCould not start process Unable to create io-slave:10:19
Panda200x klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.10:19
Panda200xUpdating xD10:19
nullkuhli have beryl runnin on xgl in feisty with ati card,,, its workin so fine with the core downgrade to version 2.0 ,,, but i have no direct rendering in this session Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display "localhost:1.0". direct rendering: No ..... PLZ HELPPPPPPPPPPP10:19
heleneOhh10:19
adaptryes... Panda200x restart your session10:19
adaptrit's b0rked10:19
Panda200xit's still updating10:19
modjowhats cgl?10:19
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helenenullkuhl: Xgl doesn't use direct rendering10:20
Kartibokhelene: Some systems must just be different. I don't know enough about it yet......but do miss my karumba, so most of the time I just have th enormal manager unless I show it off to the wife, who looks at me like I'm a geek...lol10:20
modjowhats xgl?10:20
Panda200x * Stopping Bluetooth services...  < 3 minutes now10:20
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coreymon77guys10:21
LuciousHow can I make my kde taskbar look more like an OS X one ?10:21
coreymon77how do i get a root terminal command to run on startup10:21
Panda200xSkin it?10:21
Panda200x:P10:21
Panda200xsudo bash > password > save as default?10:21
helenemodjo: X11 is the default application that allows you to use a GUI (graphical user interface - instead of having to just type commands for everything). Since ATI doesn't support Linux very well at all, some people have to run Xgl instead of X11 to get Beryl to work10:21
Panda200xnope that's not it10:22
Panda200xxD10:22
heleneKartibok: You lose your SuperKaramba widgets everytime you start Beryl, as in, they just disappear?10:22
coreymon77Panda200x: autmounting isnt working, so i just want it to run the mount command at startup10:22
modjohelene: woooooooow, so if i am alredy running beryl with a crappy intel card i DONT need xgl at al, right?10:23
coreymon77the command being sudo mount /media/Storage10:23
helenemodjo: Correct10:23
modjo*at all, right?10:23
coreymon77and then my password10:23
KartibokThe only one I get up all the time is the weather. The others say that they are still there but I can't see them10:23
Panda200xyeah10:23
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heleneXgl is just for ATI, from my understanding10:23
modjo:D10:23
Panda200xor if you want the Konsole to be root the whole time sudo bash <310:23
Panda200x*of the session10:23
timdhow do i mount a second hard drive?10:24
llutzcoreymon77: make an entry in your /etc/fstab10:24
modjohow is your hdd connected?10:24
fdovingcoreymon77: is it a removable device?10:24
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coreymon77llutz: tried that10:24
heleneKartibok: You don't have the widget layer plugin enabled, right? (under the Desktop section in Beryl Settings Manager) (It's not in the official repository's version of Beryl.)10:24
draiksfire: Hello10:24
coreymon77fdoving: its a hard drive10:24
fdovingcoreymon77: built-in, not removable?10:25
llutzcoreymon77: what partition, what mountpoint, what filesystem?10:25
modjointernal hdd?10:25
timdmodjo: yes10:25
draikHello everyone10:25
modjogreat :D. any partitions so far?10:25
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timdmodjo: kubu is on IDE and want to mount my windows which is sata10:25
coreymon77fdoving: this is a pc, all hds are removable10:25
draikI just bought a Netgear 10/100Mbits Network Card for my laptop10:25
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heleneHah, yessss....10:25
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draikFor some strange reason, it's not letting me go online10:25
fdovingcoreymon77: ok, but not usb connected, right? - you can use /etc/fstab for that.10:26
coreymon77fdoving: partition sda5, mountpoint /media/Storage fs=fat3210:26
heleneFound the package for the default power manager. :D10:26
Panda200xDraik do you have the drivers for it?10:26
jannickHello10:26
coreymon77fdoving: ive tried10:26
modjobut does it has a partition right now?10:26
coreymon77fdoving: it doesnt work10:26
StErGi0sanyone can help with soundcard problem?i got no sound but it used to work fine before10:26
draikPanda200x: How do I get the drivers for it? I'm running Kubuntu Edgy Eft10:26
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fdovingcoreymon77: ok, did you get an error message?10:26
timdyes10:26
Panda200xKonsole>lspci10:26
llutzcoreymon77: /dev/sda5 /media/Storage vfat umask=000 0 010:26
draikI have it setup as DHCP, but it's not getting an IP address10:26
nullkuhli have beryl runnin on xgl in feisty with ati card,,, its workin so fine with the core downgrade to version 2.0 ,,, but i have no direct rendering in this session Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display "localhost:1.0". direct rendering: No ..... PLZ HELPPPPPPPPPPP10:26
modjoim guessing you need to isntall win fist then kubu10:27
Panda200xcopy over the device name10:27
timdi have10:27
helenenullkuhl: It's running correctly, right? You just get that error when you start it?10:27
coreymon77fdoving: no, i can mount it, i just cant get it to autmount at boot10:27
Kartibokhelene: I can't seem to find that tick box10:27
StErGi0sPanda200x:  you are talking to me?10:27
fdovingcoreymon77: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions10:27
Panda200xno10:27
timdi had XP running on here then installed an IDE HDD and installed kubu10:27
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StErGi0soh sorry10:27
Panda200x:P10:27
amin81rysiek|pl: Hey! Are you there?10:27
heleneKartibok: If you just installed Beryl from the official repository, you don't have it. It's only in GIT10:27
modjoand you cant see the win hdd in kubu or the other way around?10:27
Kartibokhelene: Ah...its an official one10:28
draikPanda200x: Some strange reason it says "Linksys 21x4x DEC-Tulip Compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 11)10:28
timdcan't see my win hdd in kubu10:28
KartibokI believe!10:28
draikPanda200x: That's what I had before10:28
modjohow long have you been using kubu?10:28
timd2 days10:28
jzillacan somebody remind me where the "restricted drivers" window thing is ( for installing video drivers)10:28
timd:)10:28
modjoohhh10:28
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heleneKartibok: You *might* try unchecking "Place" (I think that's what it's called) under Window Management.10:29
modjook open konqueror10:29
draikPanda200x: Also, Linksys was USB, eth0    Netgear is PCMCIA, eth110:29
llutzcoreymon77: what was your (not working) entry?10:29
timdok10:29
modjoand then to storage media10:29
heleneKartibok: Sometimes that plugin acts up and throws some windows off the screen when Beryl starts.10:29
timdok10:29
modjoyour hdd inst THERE?10:29
timdnope10:29
draik!mp3 > jzilla10:29
draik!mp3 | jzilla10:30
ubotujzilla: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:30
modjothen i dont know :(10:30
modjoit SHOULD be there10:30
timdlol10:30
timdshould...yes10:30
helenejzilla: You want to install the restricted driver for your video card?10:30
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modjoyou can boot both of them?10:30
jzillahelene: yes.10:30
coreymon77llutz: already changed it according to that site10:30
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jzillaand draik, thanks, ill need that step in a min ;o10:30
timdmy win one doesn't show up in the kernel loader....just 2 copies of Kubu10:31
Kartibokhelene: That did not work.....however I am happy to switch between as and when....but thanks for the assistance10:31
draikWhoopsie, I read it as the audio Restricted Formats, not video driver10:31
helenejzilla: Do "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager" from Konsole and then run "restricted-manager"10:31
jzillayep thats it ;o10:31
jzillathanks10:31
modjothats pretty weird, i think there a wiki for migrting to kubuntu regardless of what previous OS you had10:31
heleneKartibok: No problem. I'm just puzzling over that. Never had a problem with SuperKaramba under Beryl10:31
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helenejzilla: No problem10:32
Kartibokjzilla: Try this one as well - http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html10:32
heleneWell, I have to go finish making this laptop grandmother-accessible. Peace out, everyone.10:32
rysiek|plamin81: yes, I am, all the time. I am not reading this channel all the time, though, so if you want to get to me, yoou must ping me10:32
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modjog luck helene10:32
helenelol Thanks10:32
helenelater10:32
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Kartibokhelene: I just think that its great that this OS is available with all these add ons for free, and with good support!10:32
amin81rysiek|pl: oh, ok!10:33
nullkuhl i have beryl runnin on xgl in feisty with ati card,,, its workin so fine with the core downgrade to version 2.0 ,,, but i have no direct rendering in this session Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display "localhost:1.0". direct rendering: No10:33
amin81rysiek|pl: So how are you?10:33
heleneKartibok: Indeed. :-)10:33
Kartibokhelene: Byeeee10:33
draikHow do I update my lspci? It is still reading my old Linksys USB ethernet adapter, not my new Netgear PCMCIA ethernet Card10:33
helenenullkuhl: ATI DOESN'T USE DIRECT RENDERING. ;-)10:33
modjowell, peace im outta here10:33
nullkuhland how come on the other gnome seesion with out xgl it works :@10:33
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nullkuhlhelene: ?10:34
llutzdraik: if it isn't shown in lspci, it isn't recognized at all10:34
Panda200x|Awayhelene is gone10:34
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draikllutz: How do I get it to be recognized?10:34
Panda200xDraik10:34
Blissexdraik: you cannot ''update'' the output of 'lspci'.10:34
draikPanda200x: What do I do to get the drivers for what I need?10:34
llutzdraik: please paste output of lspci to pastebin10:34
Panda200xIt might be recognized, my D-Link card is recognized as a TExas Instruments10:34
coreymon77draik: whats the card10:34
llutz!paste|draik10:35
ubotudraik: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:35
amin81rysiek|pl: hehe10:35
Kartibokhow do I use my registered name again?10:35
Panda200x./msg NickServ IDENTIFY ?10:35
Panda200x:10:35
Kartibokthanks10:35
draikcoreymon77: Netgear CardBus Notebook Adapter 10/100Mbits    Model: FA51110:35
rysiek|plamin81: now I got ya :)10:35
draikllutz: How do I paste in pastebin when it doesn't go online?10:36
amin81rysiek|pl: :) SO how have you been?10:36
rysiek|plamin81: I'm fine, thanks; just hacking around with some thing now; how about you? :)10:36
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llutzdraik: no chance to copy output to another pc to paste it?10:36
Panda200xUse a sneakernet method? xD10:36
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draikllutz: Ok....10:36
amin81rysiek|pl: not bad, alot of work though10:36
timdaaahhhaaa10:36
coreymon77draik: im curious, if your card isnt being recognized, how are you talking to us'10:36
Panda200xCopy and Save it using Kate and then stick it on a USB Drive?10:36
timdi got it10:36
Panda200xHe obviously has another computer10:37
jzillakubuntu is amazing.10:37
draikcoreymon77: That is my laptop, this is my desktop10:37
amin81rysiek|pl: i am back on my windows computer again...which adds another stressmoment10:37
jzillamakes me love my computer again10:37
rysiek|plamin81: yeah, I got thatnow, too. the exams, and so on10:37
rysiek|plamin81: I ment the time and work, not windoze10:37
rysiek|pl:)10:37
amin81rysiek|pl: got it. :) What are you studying?10:37
rysiek|plamin81: a month or two ago I have finally totally removed windows from my box.10:37
coreymon77draik: could you be a little more specific about your network card10:37
coreymon77oh10:37
coreymon77nvm10:38
rysiek|plamin81: well... Philosophy actually :)10:38
coreymon77i didnt see the model part10:38
Panda200xHey does anyone here know if the replacing bluez-utils takes ages on kubuntu?10:38
Panda200xfor upgrading10:38
amin81rysiek|pl: Cool!10:38
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rysiek|plamin81: that's a support channel, I think we should take that to some other, like #amin_and_rysiek, shall we? :)10:39
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amin81rysiek|pl: ok, cool hehe10:39
markkuHow do i enable smp/dual core on kubuntu feisty. KInfoCenter shows cpu cores: 1. I have Athlon 64 X2. Having been seaching forums like 2 weeks for solution.10:39
coreymon77draik: oaky, do you knwo the chipset?10:39
draikcoreymon77: Nope10:40
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draikllutz, Panda200x coreymon77: http://pastebin.ca/55697610:40
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cycothanks for your answers, maybe you need some lessons about being polite though10:41
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llutzdraik: your cardbus-bridge doesn't know that network-controller, try to boot with "pci=assign_busses"10:42
draikllutz: How do I do that?10:42
llutzdraik: edit the grub-menuentry when booting for testing. just add that option10:42
nullkuhlguys wats strg and srtg keys ?10:44
draikllutz: Where do I add that option? At the top? Under the boot option I usually choose?10:44
KartiCould someone give the command to register?10:44
llutzdraik: in the "kernel" line10:44
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nullkuhl guys wats strg and srtg keys ?10:45
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Sannenullkuhl: sounds like german for ctrl keys10:47
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letsgohay newbie to linux  - running kubuntu - does open office word save as msoft word format as well10:48
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draikletsgo: Yes10:49
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draikletsgo: You have to select that option as you save the document10:49
letsgovery kool thx draik10:49
draikletsgo: NP10:49
draikletsgo: Welcome to Kubuntu10:49
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letsgowow this linux is great no more windows robot10:49
letsgothx for the welocome - i'm sure i'll be back with more questions - have good day10:50
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draikletsgo: NP, someone is always here to help10:50
jzillasimple question, how do i search for packages in apt-get?10:51
letsgoi told you - i'm really warming up to this linux thing it's great - cya10:51
draikjzilla: sudo apt-cache search <package name>10:51
jzilla<310:51
zipperjzilla: you can also play around with grep..... like 'apt-cache search avi | grep player'10:52
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jzillathats sexy too10:52
jzillai knew about that command10:53
jzillanever really used it10:53
jzillaim only about 2 months in ;o10:53
jzillajust moved from suse10:53
zippergrep is in suse as well :)10:53
jzillayeah10:53
zipperah10:53
zippermisunderstood you10:53
zippersorry10:53
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draikPanda200x: coreymon77: Still not working with llutz's idea to add "pci=assign_buses"10:53
zipperjzilla: i think you'll like (k)ubuntu... thanks to apt, no more dependency problems!10:54
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ubuntu_salut10:54
schizmanyone got the VNC module with XOrg working WITHOUT corrupt graphics?  The server login screen works fine, but once I log in, it10:54
schizmit's all corrupt10:54
draikPanda200x: coreymon77: It's still my old Linksys in lspci10:54
coreymon77id ont know10:55
schizmtightvnc from command line works fine, but I'm not interested in a :1 connection, I want a :0 connection10:55
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draik:(10:55
zipperwhile we're talking about VNC... anyone know of a good way to let windows users login?10:55
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Panda200xLet them get VNC On Windows?10:56
Panda200x:p10:56
schizmzipper: that's what im working on10:56
zippertightVNC? openVNC?10:56
zipperwhich is better?10:56
Panda200xI use tightVNC10:56
schizmsimply because I don't have another box up right now, im connecting an XP box to my kubuntu box10:56
Panda200xi haven't tired openVNC10:57
zipperschizm: found any good guide for doing it?10:57
schizmtightvnc works fine, but tightvnc is pretty restrictive, it won't allow :0 connections10:57
schizmzipper: various threads on forums, use google10:57
DragnslcrI use x11vnc for :0 connections10:57
schizmone guy asked about my problem (corrupt graphics using the realvnc XOrg module) last june but noone answered him10:57
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DragnslcrSlightly annoying to get setup, but it seems to work fine for me10:57
schizmDragnslcr: i was considering that, looked like a PITA though10:57
zipperwell, i dont really need :0 connections10:57
zipperso its no biggie10:58
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antiroachjust use the Xorg vnc module10:58
schizmanti: I am :)10:58
schizmthat's the problem10:58
antiroachoh lol10:58
schizmthe login screen is fine...but once i log in....corrupt graphics10:58
mikedomohi everybody10:58
antiroachweird10:58
Dragnslcrschizm- yeah, you have to go through the options to make sure you get everything right10:58
zippermikedomo: hi doctor nick!10:58
schizmim using the "nv" driver ...i suspect that's causing the problem10:59
zippermikedomo: sorry, been watching too much simpsons lately =P10:59
Panda200xDoes anyone know how long 'Replacing bluez-utils with new version...' takes when upgrading to edgy?10:59
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schizmcause honestly i don't know what else it could be really10:59
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zipperschizm: tried using 'nvidia' instead?10:59
schizmand i can't seem to get tightvncserver firing properly from xinetd.....but if i fire it off from command line im fine10:59
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schizmzipper: no, i thought nvidia didnt work, or at least last i tried11:00
schizmill give it a try11:00
mikedomothe revolution is now11:00
zipperschizm: oh, i have no idea if it works or not11:00
zipperschizm: just guessing here11:00
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schizmaye11:00
zippermikedomo: i call dips on dictator!11:00
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schizmi guess on login i can ssh in, kick off a tightvnc server by hand. that's not the end of the world...but i just want to know why this VNC module doesn't work11:01
schizmit's bugging me11:01
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draikPanda200x: coreymon77: It uses the ADMtek AN985 chipset11:01
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BlueEagleFirst off I'm failing horribly getting my MX5000 bluetooth keyboard working. Secondly many packages are broken on a fresh install of kubuntu 7.04 64-bit according to the updater. For the keyboard I'm attempting to follow a tutorial using bluez-utils but to no avail as bluez-utils isn't installed and is not installable. Any pointers in the right direction would be appreciated.11:02
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mikedomoubuntu is the linux distro can change the informatic world11:02
beata_Where is it defined that pressing XF86AudioMedia launches amarok? This is not anywhere in my global shortcuts settings.11:02
schizmi gotta say RDP sure has come a LONG LONG way since i last played with it11:02
t-roiI agree with mikedomo^^11:02
zippermikedomo: i've heard that before....11:03
t-roibtw. hi all11:03
mikedomoreally is11:03
SlimeyPeteUbuntu will rule during the year of the Linux desktop.11:03
draikIs anyone here using a Netgear PCMCIA Network Card?11:03
SlimeyPeteWhich is confidently expected a year now. Or the year after that.11:03
zipperSlimeyPete: which is in 2160?11:03
SlimeyPeteTnyears, tops. Well, maybe fifteen.11:03
BlueEaglebeata_: system settings -> keyboard and mouse -> Keyboard shortcuts -> Command shortcuts -> Amarok11:03
SlimeyPeteoh fgs what's happened to my keyboard lately11:04
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mikedomolinux for every one and very easy to use11:04
beata_BlueEagle: That setting is set to 'none'.11:05
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zipperAnyone managed to get all the buttons on a logitech MX518 to work properly? Or anyone know of a guide for it? Tried searching without any luck.... only managed to get thumb buttons working. I want to be able to assign the DPI changing buttons to something else, say keyboard strokes for example.11:05
CPrgmSwR2Very strange11:05
CPrgmSwR2my entire kde theme changed11:05
BlueEaglebeata_: Weird. Then I do not know where it's defined. :/11:05
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BlueEaglebeata_: That's where it's supposed to be defined afaik. :)11:05
zippermikedomo: i for one, would sure like to see that. So far though, it just isnt here yet. Linux still isnt for everyone.11:06
beata_That was the first place I looked. Then I looked in Amarok's global shortcut settings.. then I grep't .kde/share for it.11:06
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mikedomois for everyone the graphical interface more mature and easy use of aplication11:07
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mikedomoand many people i convenced to use this distro11:08
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mikedomofree software is the right future of informatic11:10
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t-roimikedomo: I thing it will also be comertional software for specialy use11:12
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rodrigoguys how do I change my nickname?11:13
mikedomoyeah we leave together privative and free software11:13
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t-roirodrigo:  /nick new_nickname11:13
rodrigothanks t-roi11:13
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mikedomonot only with privative software11:14
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new_rodrolol11:14
new_rodronew wasn't a command11:14
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new_rodrook guys I need some help here11:14
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new_rodrowich are the commun slang here11:14
new_rodrolol= means laughing out loud?11:15
new_rodroisn't it?11:15
new_rodroI mean I want to join to your community11:15
new_rodroso I need to get the proper language11:15
kjdisAnyone know much about nvtv that does tv-out with the nv driver?  I can get it to work, as in show on the TV, but I don't understand how to make it permanent.  Is nvtv itself a driver, or is just an app?  If it's an app, is there a way to make it persist?  I'd like to use it instead of the binary nvidia driver if possible11:16
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new_rodrommm I see11:16
helene!modem11:16
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto11:16
mikedomothe las new i watch is aout the posible use of toshiba laptop with linux ubuntu in the same form like dell11:16
new_rodrowell in view of the succes obtained I rather go to the gimp channel11:17
new_rodrosee ya11:17
markkuhow do i prevent loading some kernel modules during startup?11:17
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beata_Huh.11:19
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Sannemarkku: I think you need to blacklist them11:22
Sanne!blacklist | markku11:22
markkuhow do i do that?11:22
ubotumarkku: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 11:22
markkuok thanks11:22
Sanne:)11:22
Tm_T!fi | markku11:22
ubotumarkku: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi11:22
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baghyaysalam11:32
xerosisanyone running kubuntu on a macbook?11:32
main2xerosis, why would you like to know that? :P11:33
baghyaycan i find an   sources.list complite for kubuntu fiesty11:33
main2hello11:33
xerosismain2: going to buy a macbook and want to see if there;s any issues11:33
main2baghyay, if you can find a complete sources.list for feitsty?11:33
draikDoes anyone know how to setup a Netword Card?11:33
main2xerosis, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories11:34
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xerosismain2: um?11:34
main2xerosis, in english then.. um?11:34
main2sorry11:34
main2i ment baghyay11:35
main2the link was ment for him11:35
main2xerosis, this one for you :P http://www.linux-laptop.net/11:35
AFaithAdmiral_Chicago: are you online ?11:35
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baghyayyes that's what i want11:35
zipperxerosis: buying one for that sole purpose? Now thats what i call dedication!11:36
main2baghyay, good =)11:36
xerosiszipper: yep :p11:36
main2baghyay, how old are you?11:36
baghyaywhy  you asking11:36
main2just wondering11:36
baghyayi have 1911:36
main2but no english classes?11:36
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zippermain2: you know, there are still a lot of places where they dont speak english... at all. I mean, its far from being the mostly used language in the world anyway.11:37
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main2zipper, well -> i had english classes here in the netherlands since the age of what ? 911:38
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main2maybe 1011:38
baghyayyeah   that's good11:38
SloikAnyone know how to make Kubuntu auto logout after a certain amount of idle time>?11:38
zippermain2: lucky you (and me). But not all people are that fortunate.11:38
main2i think that in most countries they teach english next to the national language11:38
zippermain2: you may think that, but that doesnt make it true.11:38
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baghyayin morocco english  is the secend   frgin language11:39
ubuntu_hi11:39
main2i dont know about these statistics, but it would be stupid not to do so11:39
SloikAnyone, anyone?11:39
main2no11:39
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zippermain2: it would make more sense to teach people spanish or chinese, since more people speak those. But yeah, knowing english it pretty vital when it comes to working with IT.11:40
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main2zipper, and doing business in general11:40
main2between countries11:40
zipperofcourse11:41
zipperbut lets face it, its only a fraction of the population that actually does that11:41
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main2zipper, my english is so fluent, english or american people dont even notice that im not from their country11:41
cr4shqtparted crashes, when I try to install kubuntu, console states: "No Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.", dies anyone know a solution?11:41
cr4sh*does11:41
zippermain2: and we're all very proud of you.11:42
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main2zipper, sorry had to itch a bit ;D11:42
main2but what i wanned to say is that it gives a big advantage11:42
main2i dont know why you pretend like you feel 'attacked'11:42
Tm_T!offtopic11:42
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:42
main2=)11:42
main2not being able to communicate properly nation-wide is a bid disadvantage11:42
main2i mean international11:43
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zippermain2: why do you think i would bother learning english if it didnt had its advantages? I feel "attacked" because you sound pretty arrogant.11:43
draikHow do you install *.c and *.h files?11:43
Tm_Tmain2: as I tried to point out, that's offtopic, soo...11:43
zipperhave11:43
Tm_Tdraik: what you mean?11:44
zipperdraik: you probably need to compile them first.11:44
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zipperdraik: .c and .h files are probably the source-code11:44
main2zipper, why arrogant.. no reason to say that -> you dont get the point i guess.11:44
Tm_Tmain2: krhm11:44
zippermain2: cus' you feel the need to explain to us how good you are at english, and why everyone should be like you.11:45
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Tm_Tzipper: same to you, cut that chatter when here's someone needing support11:45
main2zipper, you can make up things, but that wont earn you anything..11:45
Tm_Tdraik: what exactly you're trying to get?11:45
draikzipper: I'm trying to get my new Netgear FA511 Network Card working, but lspci isn't reading the card. The lights are on, but nobody is home.11:45
main2draik, i think your cardbus is 'down'11:45
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main2the lights are on because it gets power..11:46
draikmain2: How do I get it "up" then?11:46
zipperTm_T: oh, and that makes me arrogant? I'm helping all i can, believe me. I'm no guru though, my knowledge is limited. That makes me ignorant, not arrogant. You see the difference?11:46
main2draik, what cardbus?11:46
fdovingSloik: you must edit a config file. kdesktoprc, in the [ScreenSaver]  section, Add AutoLogout=true \n AutoLogoutTimeout=600 (that's seconds) and \n means new line. you might also want to add [$i]  at the end of the [ScreenSaver]  line, if this is a global config file. to lock the setting.11:46
zipperdraik: sorry, i have no experience with that particular card.11:46
draikThanks anyway zipper11:46
Tm_Tzipper: arrogant? I'm not saying that, all I say is reduce chatter when here's support issues going11:46
Sloikfdoving: Thanks! Where is this file located...?11:46
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draikmain2: What port do you mean?11:46
main2zipper, the suggestive way you're talking to people is said... get a life -> back on topic11:47
main2sad11:47
fdovingSloik: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kdesktoprc is the kubuntu-default one.11:47
SloikCool, thanks much!11:47
main2the cardbus, can you post you lspci on www.pastbin.ca ?11:47
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fdovingSloik: the section isn't there, you should create it. keep in mind, if you add the [$i]  you lock all changes, ie.- users cant change screensaver.11:47
darksoulanyone uses wine here?11:47
zippermain2: I'm making up things? Get a life? Heh, says the person who wants to brag on a linux irc channel.... Anyway, yes, lets get back to topic11:47
draikmain2: http://pastebin.ca/55697611:47
draikI pasted earlier11:48
AFaithhello there ... i've got a question11:48
main2zipper: i refuse to comment, im done with you.11:48
AFaithi've seen erlier11:48
Sloikfdoving: Cool.11:48
AFaiththat someone brought in disscution11:48
AFaithsomething about .c & .h files11:48
main2draik, 00:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI142011:48
darksoulermmm anyone can help me about wine plx?11:48
main2you dont see any dmesg events when inserting the pcmcia cards right?11:48
Tm_T!wine | darksoul11:48
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AFaithcan you provide me a hello.world application code in C and teach me how to compile it ?11:49
gon!es11:49
main2AFaith, #C #C++11:49
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zipperdarksoul: state your question, instead of asking to ask.11:49
ubotudarksoul: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.11:49
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:49
cr4shqtparted crashes, when I try to install kubuntu(x64), shell states: "No Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.", what do I have to do?11:49
draikmain2: How would I know? I don't see anything when I start up, other than kdewallet for my Kopete passwords11:49
AFaithmain2: do you wanna chat in private ? to let the channel for the users that really need urgent help ?11:50
zipperAFaith: void main(){printf("Hello world");}11:50
main2AFaith, ^^11:50
zipperAFaith: you may want to double-check that11:50
darksoulok how can i make the directory c:\windows\system32\program.exe visible to wine?11:51
Sloik!pastebin11:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:51
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main2draik, can you open a console, then type: dmesg11:51
fdovingAFaith: http://rafb.net/p/qh4YtQ90.html for example. 'gcc -o hello hello.c' if you put that contents into hello.c11:51
draikmain2: I did, nothing11:51
main2<enter> ............ after inserting the card and check if it works?11:51
Tm_T!ntfs | darksoul11:51
ubotudarksoul: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse11:51
main2AFaith, i recommend you to learn C++ right away, instead of C first11:51
AFaithfdoving: big thanks...11:52
Sloikfdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25030/ That's what it should look like?11:52
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main2there is no need to, (like bjarne says as well)11:52
draikmain2: whoa! Now I get something11:52
SloikAt least at the end of the file11:52
AFaithmain2: i don't wanna learn c or c++ .. i'm just curios about how can i compile a .c or .h file :P11:52
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draikmain2: What am I looking for in the list?11:52
draikPastebin?11:52
main2gcc main.c -o output.bin11:52
darksoul!ntfs-3g11:52
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions11:52
zippermain2: i dont believe Bjarne is right, learning C first forces you to learn good practices and lets you know a little more about whats going on under the hood.11:52
Tm_Tzipper: nah11:53
main2zipper, its ambigeous11:53
Tm_Tand that's slipping to offtopic too =)11:53
main2i mean, learning the same thing in 2 different ways ............ < ok too offtopic11:53
Tm_Tyeah (:11:53
zipperTm_T: just a personal oppinion, i know a lot of people will disagree with me. In the end, i dont think it matters too much which you learn first. Sorry for going offtopic again =/11:54
main2OO FTW, is my only comment remaining :P11:54
main2OOP11:54
fdovingSloik: http://rafb.net/p/0eP9Rk14.html something like that, might want a screensaver too, might not be needed, try.11:54
draikmain2: What is dmesg anyway?11:54
zipperC and C++ is far from being "the same thing"11:54
main2its the output of your system boot, and the output of loaded kernel modules11:54
Tm_Tplop11:54
Tm_Toh hi fdoving11:55
fdovinghi tm_t.11:55
draikmain2: Do you need me to do anything with it? Do I need to look for anything?11:55
Sloikfdoving: OK, cool. So these properties can still be changed by individual users for themselves?11:55
main2draik, since most likely a so 'kernel module' is loaded for your bay / card bus11:55
main2draik, can you type: dmesg > ~/Desktop/dmesg.txt11:55
fdovingSloik: if you don't add the [$i]  for the section, yes.11:56
SloikOK, thanks much!11:56
main2in a console, and then after doing so you find a textfile on your desktop .. open it> and pastbin it please ( www.pastebin.ca )11:56
AFaithfdoving: now ... i've created hello.c ... how do i make it ?11:56
fdovingSloik: hope it works for you :)11:56
Sloikfdoving: Thanks :D11:56
fdovingAFaith: 'gcc -o hello hello.c'11:56
zipperAFaith: i believe main2 already told you11:56
draikmain2: Not a problem. One moment please. Thanks for your help11:56
fdovingAFaith: from the commandline. in the directory where hello.c is saved.11:56
AFaiththanks zipper! maybe i've missed his reply11:57
AFaithbig  thanks fdoving!11:57
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zipperAFaith: wasnt trying to be a jackass, was only telling you cus' it seemed like you missed it.11:57
main2draik, what is the laptop model/type?11:58
AFaithno problem zipper!11:58
draikmain2: HP Pavilion N515011:58
AFaithfdoving: it doest work ...it's telling me that in function main there are a couple of problems11:59
draikmain2: http://pastebin.ca/55719411:59
zipperAFaith: can you paste the code somewhere?11:59
zipperAFaith: and include the errors11:59
AFaithgimme a sec11:59
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fdovingAFaith: works for me.12:00
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CPrgmSwR2what package is htsearch in12:00
zipperfdoving: time to show off the good old !works-for-me? :)12:00
jarnI see an Advanced Text Editor in Kate, but is there a basic text editor? I just want something that will open a text file quickly.12:01
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main2draik, ok brother12:01
main2i got the solution for you, be happy that you're talking to me ;)12:01
zipperjarn: doesnt kate open a text file pretty fast already?12:01
fdovingzipper: yep.12:01
AFaithfdoving: http://rafb.net/p/dt6gpE42.html here is the code & the output of the console12:01
Kartijarn: what about vim ?12:01
zipperjarn: i guess you could always go the console way, using vim/emacs/nano/whatever12:01
jarnzipper: Well, it opens it quick, but Kate doesn't open quick.12:01
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draikmain2: SWEET.. I was thinking "Wait until the 3rd sunday of the 13th month during the full moon in the mid afternoon of a halestorm..."12:02
jarnWell, the text file I'm looking at is about 800 megabytes, so that might be a little hard to manage in a console.12:02
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main2draik, what version of kubu are you running12:02
main2not the latest arent you?12:02
zippermain2: i bet he is... too bad not everyone gets that privilege =/12:02
jarnI'm looking for something like mousepad, but mousepad is a gnome app.12:02
draikmain2: Edgy Eft12:03
draik6.1012:03
main2Dragnslcr, you need to boot with the following kernel option: pci=assign=busses12:03
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main2if you dont do this, the yenta cardbus wont work12:03
main2i had the same cardbus in a laptop, which i had one day........12:03
draikYenta? I'ts a Netgear12:04
zipperjarn: it think you'll find it hard to manage in a GUI. You're already experiencing slow performance of kate right?12:04
AFaithzipper , fdoving nothing ?12:04
jarnzipper: Well, I realize anything is going to open a huge text file slow. What I'm talking about is that Kate opens itself slow.12:04
main2draik, your cardbus (the thing you slide the card in) is a yenta12:04
main2the pcmcia-adapter for wireless you got is a netgeat =)12:04
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draikmain2: Oh. Sorry, no more stupid remarks from me.12:05
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fdovingAFaith: what does it complain about?12:05
zipperAFaith: you seem to have missed placing a main() ?12:05
draikmain2: So what do I need to do?12:05
main2Tm_T, is there !someoption to explain a person how to use a kernel param?12:05
AFaithzipper: edit that code and paste it there :P please12:06
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zipperAFaith: hang on12:06
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AFaithoh ... you're my hero :P12:06
Tm_T!ubotu | main212:06
ubotumain2: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:06
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zipperAFaith: oh, nevermind, you already have a main. My bad, i'm very tired.12:07
Tm_Tzipper: you should sleep then :)12:07
draikmain2: What am I needing to do?12:07
fdovingAFaith: you cut'n pasted. don't do that. write it.12:07
jarnIs there a way to split a text file up into multiple smaller ones?12:07
main2how do i explain draik to use this "pci=assign=busses" kernel parameter?12:08
AFaithzipper: me too ... i think i'm going to skip this and go to bed :P12:08
zipperTm_T: i should study for tomorrow to be honest12:08
AFaithfdoving: why ? do you think thats the problem ?12:08
zipperAFaith: wait a sec12:08
fdovingjarn: have a look at 'man split'12:08
fdovingAFaith: yes.12:08
draikmain2: I already did... but I did "pci=assign_busses"12:08
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jarnfdoving: Thanks. :)12:08
main2draik, where did you do > pci=assign-busses?12:08
fdovingAFaith: it basically says there are invalid characters.12:08
draikmain2: On the kernel line. I just added pci=assign_busses12:09
AFaithok then... let's try it :P gimme a sec12:09
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main2draik, sh1t.. i copy pasted pci=assign=busses from a faq i wrote earlier12:09
zipperAFaith: http://rafb.net/p/e9czM413.html12:09
draikmain2: menu.lst file, on the Kernel line of the option I use12:09
zipperAFaith: here you go12:09
main2need o fix that then.... its ok draik12:10
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main2you know what to do :D12:10
jarnfdoving: Wow, this file I'm messing with is so big I exhausted the output file suffixes. :P12:10
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draikmain2: No I don't. I entered that in the kernel line, restarted and still nothing12:10
draikmain2: I'm not online with my laptop12:10
main2ok, draik gimme one sec12:10
GrahamSup people!12:10
main2i think its pci=assign-busses12:10
main2not with an underscore12:11
main2definitly not with a double equal-sign12:11
zipperAFaith: if it doesnt work for you.... you haven't copy/pasted it correctly12:11
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jarnIs there a way to check how many lines are in a file?12:11
main2draik, it indeed is "pci=assign-busses"12:11
fdovingjarn: wc12:11
main2and nothing else12:11
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fdovingjarn: man wc12:11
jarnfdoving: Thanks.12:11
main2use it, and it'll work12:11
draikmain2: do it's a "dash" not an "underscore"?12:11
main2yes12:12
draikmain2: Here goes nothing12:12
main2 pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses  pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses  pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses  pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses  pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses12:12
main2like this :P12:12
main2you added it in your menu.lst right?12:12
darksoulhow do i install gksudo?12:12
draikmain2: Yes, but not that many times :P12:13
zipperdarksoul: apt-get install gksudo? But i believe KDE has something similar to gksudo....12:13

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