[12:13] <soulrider> install libxine-extracodecs
[12:15] <sstchur> Is there anything besides knetworkmanager that can be used to aid in connecting to wpa secured wireless networks?  All the other GUIs I try, only have options for WEP
[12:19] <sercik> !envy
[12:19] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:19] <tuxd> Hi.  New to Linux.  Running Fiesty Kubuntu.  Amarok has libraries to play MP3's, plays them from folder on home/user/music, but "Build A Collection" is not working. It recognises iPOD & plays songs from it, but won't move to collection.  Read steps in Amarok "Quick Start Guide", & after going to Collection Browser, clicking on configure, selecting folders, and clicking "OK", nothing happens.  Please help.  Thanks
[12:19] <tuxd> [14:58]  <tuxd> Also, Amaraok is 1.4.5, KDE 3.5.6
[12:19] <marko> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-es/attachments/20051202/4abe3cb1/ubuntu_5.11.jpg
[12:19] <marko> :P
[12:20] <tuxd> Not sure what engine is, but came standard with Fiesty Kubuntu
[12:21] <Pensacola> it would be great if the sysinfo:/ thing would be included in the next kubuntu release
[12:21] <Pensacola> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/KIO+Slave+sysinfo%3A%2B+for+PCLinuxOS+2007?content=59472&PHPSESSID=bcb7bd0596986519bb55bd650c5cc611
[12:23] <Kr4t05> Is there a quick and easy way to refresh my RAM without rebooting?
[12:24] <RawSewage> you can restart X
[12:24] <RawSewage> also, I suggest changing the default Sessions setting
[12:25] <RawSewage> to Start with Empty Session
[12:25] <RawSewage> I hate the default.  The default picks up garbage processes over time, and your system gets all slow
[12:25] <RawSewage> because it keeps loading everything from the past
[12:25] <Kr4t05> RawSewage: I don't like starting with an empty session though. Having Konversation, Beryl and Amarok start up for me is nice.
[12:25] <RawSewage> Kr4t05, just add those to your AutoStart folder
[12:26] <Kr4t05> Oh, yeah...
[12:26] <RawSewage> an easy way to do that is go to the folder, then drag the app from your Start menu into it and copy
[12:28] <andres> alguien me puede explicar como hago para configurar un firewall en kubuntu feisty fawn??
[12:29] <Kr4t05> !es | andres
[12:30] <ubotu> andres: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:30] <hunfa> can someone help me please?
[12:30] <alexandre> andres_ you should speak in English.. xD
[12:30] <hunfa> i need more sources for new programs
[12:30] <hunfa> how do i add new ones?
[12:31] <sercik> kubuntu search for trevino sources.list
[12:31] <alexandre> hunfa: you only need to edit.. the sources.list if you talking abou it...
[12:31] <Tailsfan> What is a good multimedia program that can recognize iPod videos?
[12:31] <sercik> and you'll find many sources to add
[12:32] <alexandre> Tailfsfan mplayer,vlc, kaffeine... I think all theese thres does...
[12:32] <hunfa> how?
[12:32] <Kr4t05> hunfa: Becareful about adding third-party repositories.
[12:32] <Tailsfan> I meant straight from teh iPod
[12:32] <Tailsfan> They're in my iPod from iTunes on Windows
[12:32] <hunfa> ok
[12:33] <hunfa> where can i find sources.list?
[12:33] <Tailsfan> Any Ideas?
[12:33] <darkrift> anyone know of a good ocr program?
[12:33] <Kr4t05> !EasySource | hunfa
[12:33] <ubotu> hunfa: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:33] <darkrift> i have bmp's of an ebook i made and i need run ocr on it
[12:37] <hunfa> i opened the site
[12:37] <hunfa> and chose my kubuntu version
[12:38] <hunfa> then i pressed the "create sources.list"
[12:38] <hunfa> now what should i do?
[12:39] <SeanTater> My cursor vaporized and I can't seem to get it back. What should I try?
[12:41] <darkrift> nobody? :(
[12:43] <Tailsfan> Hey also, Why does Amarok freeze for whenever it asks for MP3 Support
[12:48] <jarn> I created an executable that runs another command, only if I try to run the executable from the Run Command dialog it opens up a shell and runs it in there so I can only run it from the command line. Is there a way to make it so it can be run through Run Command?
[12:51] <shadowhywind> what is the correct line i should add to my fstab to mount a vfat partition with read/write for all users?
[12:54] <tuxd> Hi. I'm new to Linux. I'm running Feisty Kubuntu, and have current updates for all the programs I am running. I installed everything to get it to play mp3's correctly, and my iPOD is detected & can play songs in Amarock. The problem I am having is in Building A Collection. I know it sounds retarded. Intially I tried to move mp3's from the iPOD (by highlighting one artist, right-clicking, and selecting "Copy files to collection")
[12:54] <tuxd> and it gave a message saying "You need to configure at least one folder for your collection for organizing your files". I've been reading the "Quick Start Guide" and it says go to Collection Browser (check), then Click the Configure Folders Button located in toolbar (check; the one that looks like a Hammer and Wrench criss-crossing and says "Configure Folders" if you hover your mouse over it), then select which folders you would
[12:54] <tuxd> like to have your collection made from (check; I created a folder under my user, i.e. home/user/music and have selected this.) Then it says you can check some boxes and then click "OK". (check). Nothing happens after I click "OK". It says there should be an initial scan and it doesn't appear to do one. There are no files showing in the collection browser window. There are some mp3's in the home/user/music folder I loaded manually
[12:54] <tuxd> via a usb pen drive to the folder so it would have something to grab, but there is nothing for a collection in Amarock. It seems like the Build A Collection feature is just plain not working. Help please. Thanks.
[12:55] <Tailsfan> !mp4
[12:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:56] <PhinnFort> tuxd was very patient
[12:56] <Chris_> yeah
[12:56] <Chris_> I was just about to answer him... after reading all of his messages..
[12:56] <PhinnFort> probably found out that it worked after he had set up a folder;)
[12:56] <PhinnFort> *all of his _long_ messages
[12:57] <Chris_> yeah, or he discovered drag&drop to add music files to the ipod
[12:57] <PhinnFort> ;)
[12:57] <PhinnFort> dnd ftw
[12:57] <Chris_> is anyone here who can help me with kdialog?
[12:57] <PhinnFort> Chris_: maybe?
[12:58] <PhinnFort> elaborate, and I might be able to help you
[12:58] <Chris_> I'm wondering if it's possible to have clickable links in passive popups
[12:59] <PhinnFort> shadowhywind: look at "man:fstab" or "man:mount" in konqueror
[12:59] <PhinnFort> Chris_: tried with html messages?
[01:00] <PhinnFort> Chris_: kdialog --error '<a href=#>lol</a>' seems to work
[01:00] <Chris_> yes, if I include html links, then they are parsed and shown as links, but nothing happens when you click on them
[01:00] <PhinnFort> hum
[01:00] <PhinnFort> Chris_: maybe ask the devs in #kde
[01:01] <Chris_> okay, thanks!
[01:01] <PhinnFort> np
[01:02] <Tailsfan> How do I add MP4 Support>
[01:03] <PhinnFort> !mp4
[01:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:03] <PhinnFort> ?
[01:03] <PhinnFort> Tailsfan: I think I have it
[01:03] <PhinnFort> !info xine-extracodecs
[01:03] <ubotu> Package xine-extracodecs does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:03] <PhinnFort> !info libxine-extracodecs
[01:03] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB
[01:03] <PhinnFort> Tailsfan: do you have that installed?
[01:04] <Tailsfan> Not Yet, II need XMMS fo rthat right?
[01:04] <PhinnFort> Tailsfan: uhm, no?
[01:04] <Tailsfan> Because I was trying to use AmarroK to play MP4s and MP3s
[01:04] <PhinnFort> Tailsfan: that package add lots of codecs to xine, which is used by kaffeine, amarok, etc.
[01:05] <Ace2016> hi all
[01:05] <Ace2016> what html editor do you use in linux???
[01:05] <PhinnFort> Tailsfan: XINE is a multimedia framework, and Amarok includes a music playing engine that uses XINE to play music files
[01:05] <PhinnFort> Ace2016: Kate
[01:05] <PhinnFort> Ace2016: but I've heard much good about Quanta Plus too
[01:06] <PhinnFort> !info quanta | Ace2016
[01:06] <ubotu> ace2016: quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2382 kB, installed size 5728 kB
[01:06] <Ace2016> I'm thinking more about a gui based editor
[01:06] <PhinnFort> Ace2016: Kate is GUI
[01:07] <PhinnFort> So is Quanta Plus, I might add
[01:07] <PhinnFort> if you want WYSIWYG, use OpenOffice Writer or KWord
[01:07] <PhinnFort> or NVU
[01:07] <Ace2016> never knew you could use oo to make a website
[01:07] <PhinnFort> Ace2016: it can export to HTML, afaik
[01:08] <hitmanWilly> Ace2016, just about any text editor can be used to make a website :P
[01:08] <PhinnFort> anyways, if you're serious about web design, you should learn HTML
[01:08] <PhinnFort> it's very easy
[01:09] <Ace2016> programming is higher on the list of things to learn at the mo
[01:10] <PhinnFort> html isn't programming imho
[01:10] <hitmanWilly> ditto
[01:10] <PhinnFort> :P
[01:10] <Ace2016> i mean like qt4
[01:10] <adz21c> html isn't programming, its data
[01:10] <hitmanWilly> im not even sure if it qualifies as a scripting lang...
[01:11] <Arwen> god fscking damn it I fscking hate ATI...
[01:11] <PhinnFort> Arwen: AMEN!
[01:11] <Ace2016> lol
[01:11] <OhMyAudi> Hi all.  I have my panel arranged at the bottom of my screen like OSX.  I'm looking for some sort of separator to go inbetween my trash can and the rest of my icons.  Any advice?
[01:11] <hitmanWilly> lol
[01:11] <PhinnFort> well, if you want an easy and pretty webpage, use a CMS
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: AMD have promised to make ATi drivers FOSS later this year
[01:12] <Arwen> OhMyAudi, try the "separator" applet
[01:12] <PhinnFort> OhMyAudi: can't you just move them aroun
[01:12] <PhinnFort> d
[01:12] <Ace2016> OhMyAudi: create an icon and for the icon's image use a separator like image
[01:12] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, yeah, and I call BS
[01:12] <Arwen> besides, being F/OSS won't fix the fact that they suck
[01:12] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: well, it wouldn't be first time someone promised better ATI drivers
[01:12] <OhMyAudi> Arwen: Where is the separator applet?
[01:12] <Arwen> OhMyAudi, no idea? :-)
[01:12] <OhMyAudi> wow
[01:12] <OhMyAudi> Okay.
[01:12] <PhinnFort> Arwen: it might allow those sitting on source code supporting next gen ati cards release it
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: we can but wait and see, Im sticking with intel for now, Im waiting for some cheap laptops with i965 chipsets
[01:13] <PhinnFort> ati is currently blocking it
[01:13] <AutoMatriX> Hello
[01:13] <OhMyAudi> Ace2016:  Thanks, I had a similar idea, but was wondering if there were any official solutions.
[01:13] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, X3500 GMA is where it's at :-)
[01:13] <OhMyAudi> Thanks all
[01:13] <PhinnFort> OhMyAudi: why do you need a separator?
[01:13] <PhinnFort> darn
[01:13] <PhinnFort> kicker allows you to move stuff freely around
[01:13] <soulrider> !ati
[01:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:14] <PhinnFort> !fsckati
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsckati - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <hitmanWilly> i dont think there is a seperator applet in kicker...
[01:14] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: yeah, I can see Intel doing some damage to both AMD(ATi) and Nvidia market if they make a half way decent FOSS video chipset
[01:14] <PhinnFort> hitmanWilly: because you don't need one...
[01:14] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, hell no. Intel doesn't even compete with NVIDIA and ATI
[01:14] <Ace2016> PhinnFort: can't control where the taslbar ends, it always goes as far as whatever the next thing is
[01:14] <PhinnFort> Arwen:
[01:14] <PhinnFort> Arwen: well, I for one will go with integrated intel graphics on my next laptop
[01:15] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: actually Intel outsells both added together right now
[01:15] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, but Intel doesn't *compete* with them
[01:15] <PhinnFort> Ace2016: is that bad...?
[01:15] <Arwen> Intel targets the low end market where ATI and NVIDIA sell *competent* video cards.
[01:15] <PhinnFort> Arwen: they might as well, their drivers are excellent;)
[01:15] <Ace2016> PhinnFort: yes its annoying
[01:15] <PhinnFort> I don't need anything more than what the intel cards provides, but then again I'm not a hardcore gamer
[01:15] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: beginning with the i965 it will, built in shader support and multi channel
[01:16] <PhinnFort> I would at least be able to play Glest with Intel
[01:16] <PhinnFort> (compared to now, where everything is gray)
[01:16] <Arwen> "hardcore gamer" - I hate that phrase. I've not yet seen any *real* game that will play without at least a midrange video card
[01:16] <PhinnFort> Arwen: PPRacer?
[01:16] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, yeah, but it'll be handicapped by the shared memory requirement..
[01:16] <Arwen> PhinnFort, *real*
[01:16] <Arwen> I could play that with software rendering
[01:17] <PhinnFort> Arwen: :D
[01:17] <PhinnFort> Arwen: well, then I'm not a "real" gamer
[01:17] <PhinnFort> :P
[01:17] <Arwen> bah, all I play is Nexuiz.... and that doesn't run too well on Intel.
[01:17] <SlimeyPete> there are lots of real gam which run without a decent card. Anything released before this year, for a start ;)
[01:17] <Arwen> and Nexuiz is far from state-of-art
[01:17] <hitmanWilly> Arwen is talking about quake, unreal, etc, i do believe
[01:17] <Arwen> ^^
[01:18] <PhinnFort> well, I have Nexuiz installed
[01:18] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: as long as beryl works Im happy, I prefere consoles for games as they are released earlier than the PC now
[01:18] <Arwen> Unreal doesn't actually take too much power, has a software engine even
[01:18] <PhinnFort> mesa?
[01:18] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, you just can't play an FPS on a console..
[01:18] <Arwen> PhinnFort, no, internal software renderer
[01:18] <PhinnFort> agreed
[01:18] <PhinnFort> ah, ok
[01:18] <hitmanWilly> but UT04 on a 7900 nvidia card running 64 bit is just AWESOME!!!!
[01:18] <SlimeyPete> you can generally get mie & keyboards for consoles these days.
[01:18] <Minataku> Halo fans seem to be pretty happy with console FPSs
[01:18] <SlimeyPete> and the wiimote is OK for FPS
[01:19] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: can on the PS3 it supports vector, most PC's cant render vector
[01:19] <Arwen> Minataku, because they've never played anything else...
[01:19] <soulrider> !ati > gon
[01:19] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, *mouse and keyboard*
[01:19] <Minataku> But then I'm not much for FPSs
[01:19] <mindslant> so I sudo got beryl in the terminal.  then I typed beryl...then my screen went into a solid color.  Any suggestions on how to get beryl working now that I"ve restarted?
[01:19] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: you can use a mouse an keypad with both the XBOX and PS3 now
[01:19] <Arwen> anyway, we're digressing
[01:19] <Minataku> I'm a racing gamer first and foremost
[01:19] <OhMyAudi> Hey all I'm debating switching back to windows
[01:20] <Minataku> TPSs next, maybe
[01:20] <OhMyAudi> I think I need windows therapy
[01:20] <PhinnFort> OhMyAudi: oh so exciting
[01:20] <hitmanWilly> !windows | OhMyAudi
[01:20] <ubotu> OhMyAudi: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:20] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, yeah..... or you could just play FPS games on a PC...
[01:20] <OhMyAudi> lol
[01:20] <zipper> SlimeyPete: while yes, you can get mouse+keyboard, they dont work as well as they do on a PC. The pitch is locked, so you cant do "flick" movements.
[01:20] <mindslant> ohmyaudi, linus himself in an hour long speech at google said he used what worked best.  best is up to you
[01:20] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: Im sending email on my PS3 heh
[01:21] <Arwen> bah
[01:21] <OhMyAudi> Okay okay, I'm feeling more like linux again.  Thanks all
[01:21] <PhinnFort> Fallout 2 plays just as well on Intel as on my ATi
[01:21] <Minataku> PS3... the total failure of the bunch
[01:21] <PhinnFort> XD
[01:21] <Minataku> Talk about the dumbest choice you could make
[01:21] <Arwen> PhinnFort, Fallout? lol
[01:21] <PhinnFort> Arwen: <3 fallout <3
[01:21] <zipper> sigh, the fanboyism hit this channel too? =(
[01:21] <PhinnFort> and Fallout 3 is coming soon
[01:21] <Arwen> speaking of old games, I need to scrounge a copy of starcraft..
[01:21] <PhinnFort> zipper: since when didn't it contaminate every channel?
[01:22] <OhMyAudi> Oh i do have a question actually.  if I've tried to install something via a script and the install was unsuccessful, how can I remove the junk (delete what was put into my system prior to install failure)?
[01:22] <Linux_Galore> I have xfce running on the PS3, it allot faster than I expected
[01:22] <mindslant> can anyone help me with beryl?
[01:22] <PhinnFort> !beryl | mindslant
[01:22] <ubotu> mindslant: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:22] <Arwen> OhMyAudi, by examining the script and trying to guess what it did?
[01:22] <zipper> PS3 is expensive, big, ugly and lacks a lot of things. However, it is THE most powerful thing out there + it can run linux. Thats gotta count for something
[01:22] <PhinnFort> OhMyAudi: make uninstall, maybe
[01:22] <Arwen> OhMyAudi, basically, you're fux0r3d
[01:22] <Minataku> zipper: You'd think that, but it doesn't.
[01:22] <OhMyAudi> Arwen, what is with you and the answering questions with questions
[01:22] <Minataku> It's a game console
[01:22] <Arwen> zipper, actually, it's outperformed by modern PCs.
[01:22] <OhMyAudi> Arwen, are you really alex trabeck?
[01:22] <Minataku> It shouldn't need to run Linux, really.
[01:22] <Linux_Galore> PS3 as a Linux render farm is amazing though
[01:23] <PhinnFort> you tell me
[01:23] <zipper> Arwen: outperformed, yes. But you still get better FPS on the PS3, due to all the optimazing which you cannot do on a pc.
[01:23] <Minataku> And the fact that it was designed purely to sell Blu-Ray and not to do ANYTHING ELSE, it's a total piece of crap
[01:23] <PhinnFort> better mazes?
[01:23] <Arwen> zipper, LIES. You could just as easily write optimized code for a PC...
[01:23] <Linux_Galore> add 3 x PS3 + Linux cluster and you have real time vector rendering
[01:23] <Arwen> anyway, WE'RE DIGRESSING
[01:23] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: we have real time vector rendering in Qt 4
[01:24] <PhinnFort> on PC's, I might add;)
[01:24] <zipper> Arwen: if you knew the exact specifications of the PC, yes, you could. However, you never know such details. PC users have a wide range of different setups.
[01:24] <PhinnFort> !offtopic | PhinnFort
[01:24] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: not in full 3D on a PC, it wont have the grunt
[01:24] <Arwen> zipper, bah
[01:24] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: I think you're mixing concepts, or I don't grasp them;)
[01:25] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: why wouldn't a pc be able to display vectors in 3 dimensions (in fullscreen)?
[01:25] <SlimeyPete> surely polygons are essentially vectors?
[01:25] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: most people think as vector rendering on a single plane, Im talking pure 3D with a few thousand planes in real time
[01:25] <PhinnFort> eggzactly
[01:26] <zipper> Arwen: "bah" or not, its still one of the consoles' greatest features. Not being able to chose hardware that is.
[01:26] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, that's called a Vector Processing Unit. We have those in PCs too...
[01:26] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: hum, most games have several hundreds/thousand planes, already
[01:26] <njt88> is it possible to watch .wmv movies in kaffeine without glitches? I'm a feisty newbie. Cheers in advance!
[01:26] <Arwen> zipper, lockin is never a feature...
[01:26] <PhinnFort> njt88: depends on your cpu, i guess
[01:26] <PhinnFort> njt88: what video card do you have?
[01:26] <Arwen> njt88, um, yes?
[01:26] <Arwen> lol
[01:26] <intelikey> i'm getting an odd script error   can anyone tell me what it's saying  """ script.sh: 14: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting "}")
[01:27] <Arwen> intelikey, your script is malformed, pastebin it
[01:27] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: yeah but they dont render the whole lot in vector only set parts
[01:27] <_4strO> !codecs | njt88
[01:27] <zipper> Arwen: not locked, just pre-defined. And no, i agree, "feature" was not the right word for it - one of their greatest strenghts then.
[01:27] <ubotu> njt88: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:27] <PhinnFort> intelikey: you forgot to close some brackets?
[01:27] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: erh... they only render what's on screen
[01:27] <PhinnFort> anything else would be useless
[01:27] <Arwen> njt88, you have any problems specifically?
[01:27] <intelikey> PhinnFort mmm maybe.   but it works as #!/bin/bash  but not as #!/bin/dash
[01:28] <PhinnFort> blargh... /me no like dash
[01:28] <intelikey> so it's some bashism that i missed.
[01:28] <PhinnFort> maybe bash is more forgiving?
[01:28] <njt88> Arwen: just keeps glitching every 10ish seconds and screen goes green often
[01:28] <PhinnFort> paste it?
[01:28] <PhinnFort> njt88: what kind of gfx card do you have?
[01:28] <Arwen> njt88, huh, that sounds like a decoding problem - are you using w32codecs?
[01:28] <Minataku> You're completely ignoring the fact that the PS3 was designed solely to sell Sony's latest failure format Blu-Ray, itself an overpriced load of bullcrap designed purely to be DRM'd up the wazoo
[01:28] <Arwen> PhinnFort, what's his graphics card have to do with this?
[01:29] <PhinnFort> Arwen: tried playing video with VESA?
[01:29] <Linux_Galore> Ive learnt one thing in the last few days, kmail is far from enterprise ready until the developers stop thinking html is evil
[01:29] <Arwen> PhinnFort, lol
[01:29] <sudoman> join #cedega
[01:29] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: hum, iloveyou?
[01:29] <PhinnFort> sudoman: why?
[01:29] <Arwen> PhinnFort, can't be worse than using VGA fbdev..
[01:29] <PhinnFort> ;P
[01:29] <sudoman> jeje :-P
[01:29] <PhinnFort> sadoman
[01:29] <njt88> phinnfort: it's a Nvidia nForce4 6600gt
[01:29] <Minataku> Green, eh?
[01:30] <PhinnFort> njt88: have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> well I want to recommend kmail as a solution to enterprise level users but I cant
[01:30] <Minataku> njt88: Sounds like decryption errors
[01:30] <Arwen> PhinnFort, the nv driver supports 2d accel...
[01:30] <Arwen> so that's not the problem
[01:30] <Arwen> njt88, oh yeah, is the WMV DRM'ed?
[01:30] <gon> !ati
[01:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:30] <PhinnFort> Arwen: motion compensation etc, too?
[01:30] <Arwen> PhinnFort, yes
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> kontact is a great rig ruined by kmail
[01:30] <SlimeyPete> geforce cards do xv in software, anyway
[01:30] <PhinnFort> Linuxh
[01:30] <Minataku> It's a DVD, Arwen
[01:30] <njt88> phinnfort: I believe so. My mate did it for me
[01:30] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: how so?
[01:30] <PhinnFort> njt88: ah, ok
[01:30] <Minataku> But it still sounds like the same thing
[01:30] <Arwen> Minataku, DVDs aren't encoded with WMV..
[01:31] <Minataku> Arwen: They're still encrypted
[01:31] <PhinnFort> DVDCSS
[01:31] <PhinnFort> !dvd
[01:31] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:31] <Minataku> It's possible his system isn't keeping up
[01:31] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: kmail doesnt support many of the most basic html option in the compose mode and the spam filter is too complex
[01:31] <Arwen> PhinnFort, ....try actually reading what we're saying
[01:31] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: wtf uses html in enterprise settings?
[01:31] <Arwen> Minataku, that doesn't explain the green
[01:31] <Minataku> And every 10 seconds or so runs out of decrypted content and falls back
[01:31] <Minataku> Just a guess
[01:31] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: everyone I deal with at a company level right now
[01:32] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: and the spam is supposed to be filtered out with the companies mail servers
[01:32] <Arwen> damn, fglrx doesn't support XvMC... oh well
[01:32] <PhinnFort> *@
[01:32] <Minataku> It could also be an xv issue, too, as mentioned
[01:32] <njt88> was running windows until about a month ago and the same .wmv files played well. I am suspecting it's a codec problem
[01:32] <Minataku> njt88: Oh, they ARE WMVs, sorry
[01:32] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: exactly what do you miss in the html editing?
[01:32] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: I agree but not everyone will be using the PC at work some use it at home and have their own email service provider
[01:32] <Minataku> njt88: They're probably encrypted
[01:32] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37316   slow response
[01:32] <Arwen> njt88, ok, so, like I said, did you install the w32codecs package?
[01:32] <Minataku> DRMv1 or DRMv2
[01:32] <Arwen> and yeah, are they DRMed?
[01:32] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: well, then it's not in an enterprise setting, is it?
[01:33] <Sloik> I have a mobility radeon... the fglrx drivers don't seem to be working with it... what's the problem?
[01:33] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: for starters "no text hyperlinking"
[01:33] <intelikey> PhinnFort  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37316
[01:33] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: also, have you tried to use the wizard?
[01:33] <Arwen> !notworking | Sloik
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about notworking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <Minataku> In which case you need some piece of software and, unfortunately, a working Windows PC
[01:33] <njt88> Arwen: no, I don't think they're install. Where can I get'em?
[01:33] <Arwen> !doesn't work | Sloik
[01:33] <ubotu> Sloik: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:33] <Minataku> :P
[01:33] <Arwen> !medibuntu | njt88
[01:33] <ubotu> njt88: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[01:33] <mindslant> howdy.  I got an ati radeon xpress 200m graphics card, how do I install teh driver for it
[01:33] <Arwen> follow those instructions and then do "apt-get install w32codecs"
[01:33] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: yes, it doesnt work very well and needs some manual setting up to work 100%
[01:33] <Linux_Galore> @ spam filter
[01:33] <Sloik> Well when I installed the fglrx drivers, X server refused to start.
[01:34] <Minataku> What you should do with encrypted WMVs is delete them angrily and tell whoever/whereever you got them from to go suck on a sewer pipe
[01:34] <Arwen> Sloik, did it print any errors?
[01:34] <intelikey> Arwen what bashism did i miss in this  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37316  ?
[01:34] <PhinnFort> intelikey: the while thingy in brackets?
[01:34] <Minataku> And not a rainwater sewer
[01:34] <Sloik> Not that I could see... it really just showed the kubuntu logo.
[01:34] <PhinnFort> intelikey: also try in #bash
[01:34] <Minataku> A sanitary sewer
[01:34] <Minataku> The kind that carries poop
[01:34] <njt88> Arwwen: ubotu: Phinnfort: thanks I'll try installing that package and see how I get on!
[01:34] <PhinnFort> njt88: yw
[01:34] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: it worked perfectly here after running the wizard
[01:34] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: good example in Thunderbird there is a nice setup for Insert Link. Insert Image etc nothing like that in Kmail
[01:35] <intelikey> PhinnFort dash can't do { commands ; } ?
[01:35] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: drag and drop?
[01:35] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: I still got allot fo spam on an open server
[01:35] <PhinnFort> intelikey: dunno, I don't use dash;)
[01:35] <Minataku> intelikey: If it works with bash just run it with bash
[01:36] <Minataku> That's the point of the #! line
[01:36] <Arwen> GOD FUCKING DAMN IT
[01:36] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: the Insert Image dialog allows you to edit some of the image preferences for the image file selected
[01:36] <Arwen> fglrx killed my system again..
[01:36] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Arwen
[01:36] <intelikey> Minataku i'm migrating away from bash thank you.
[01:36] <ubotu> Arwen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:36] <Minataku> So the script runs with the proper shell no matter which shell it's launched from
[01:36] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: drag and drop doesnt cut it
[01:36] <Arwen> PriceChild, yeah yeah...
[01:36] <Minataku> intelikey: That's a stupid thing to do
[01:36] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: well, if you get spam into the internal network, you've kind of lost
[01:36] <Minataku> Explain why
[01:36] <Arwen> so, who's bash script am I looking at?
[01:36] <intelikey> Minataku in your openion i'm sure.
[01:36] <Minataku> Because I can't imagine why the hell anyone would want to do that
[01:37] <Minataku> Arwen: It's a dash script. He doesn't want to use bash anymore.
[01:37] <Minataku> For some bizarro reason
[01:37] <Minataku> Though Bizarro would explain it
[01:37] <intelikey> because bash has become bloated and is no longer full posix compliant
[01:37] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: right now I get 1 email per 2,000 odd spam from a filtered account so Im not that fussy, Im just saying the kmail setup is very convoluted compared to thunderbirds
[01:37] <Minataku> intelikey: Try it with /bin/sh
[01:38] <Arwen> Minataku, /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/dash
[01:38] <Minataku> What!?
[01:38] <intelikey> Minataku yes
[01:38] <Minataku> Dumbass distro
[01:38] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: I haven't tried Thunderbird, but all I know is that i've never met someone who has complained about the lack of HTML editing features in an enterprise setting;)
[01:38] <Minataku> It's supposed to be a symlink to /bin/bash which runs it in old-style sh compat mode
[01:38] <PhinnFort> Minataku: /bin/sh is supposed to link to a POSIX compliant shell, which DASH is
[01:39] <intelikey> exactly
[01:39] <Minataku> bash in compat mode is also POSIX compliant
[01:39] <PhinnFort> Minataku: but it's slow
[01:39] <Arwen> say, in what way is BASH not POSIX-compliant?
[01:39] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: but there's replacements for KMail too, but I dunno how integrated it is
[01:39] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: were I work we do allot of marketing and support via email, we embed the external documentation within the text rather than spam the users inbox with attachments
[01:39] <Minataku> I'm gonna go play videogames
[01:39] <intelikey> bash in compat mode also accepts all that "bashism" that is breaking scripts.
[01:39] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:39] <hikaricore> lol
[01:40] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: also many companies dont allow attachments
[01:40] <Arwen> hah
[01:40] <pagan0ne> anyonw know a good program to convert a .vod bile into a standard mpeg or avi file under kununtu?
[01:40] <pagan0ne> .vob file, sorry
[01:40] <Arwen> pagan0ne, no, there are no programs to convert bile
[01:40] <Arwen> :-P
[01:40] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: well, all images in mails, even the html document itself, is encoded attachments
[01:40] <Minataku> pagan0ne: That's a DVD "Video OBject"
[01:40] <PhinnFort> more or less
[01:40] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: kmail method of having a 40 character link in the email is dumb
[01:40] <Minataku> You'll want to rip the DVD instead
[01:40] <pagan0ne> lol, give me a break, i just bought a new keyboard...
[01:40] <Arwen> pagan0ne, also, a "standard" *AVI*? Um......
[01:40] <Minataku> Since the VOB isn't gonna be what you want
[01:41] <PhinnFort> try K3B
[01:41] <Minataku> !dvd
[01:41] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:41] <hikaricore> Though you can directly play vob in most media players
[01:41] <pagan0ne> Minataku: i dont have the dvd, its just a couple of vob files
[01:41] <intelikey> i'd really like to find some good DASH documentation   it's man page is a unix bash leftover
[01:41] <hikaricore> pirate!
[01:41] <Minataku> pagan0ne: Then you're probably screwed
[01:41] <Arwen> pagan0ne, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273635
[01:41] <hikaricore> rofl
[01:41] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: I dont send images because all that is already on our servers that the customer can hyperlink to if they wish
[01:41] <Arwen> you'll end up with a Matroska instead of an AVI, but it'll still be better than having a cruddy VOB lying around
[01:42] <pagan0ne> hikaricore: well its a doctor who season 1 box set, its not avalable for purchase here in the states, and i need my who fix
[01:42] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: well, try Mailody;)
[01:42] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: and file a bug at bugs.kde.org
[01:42] <Arwen> pagan0ne, alternatively, you could just play the vob directly
[01:42] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: or ask in #kde, if you're lucky one of the KMail devs are online and now afk
[01:42] <Minataku> pagan0ne: You're likely to be missing part of it
[01:42] <Minataku> Like, all the audio
[01:42] <pagan0ne> yes, but vob files are huge
[01:42] <Minataku> I don't believe VOBs carry audio
[01:42] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: the hyperlink bug has been there for ages, the kmail people hate html its even in the manual
[01:42] <intelikey> PhinnFort you don't know off hand of any dash docs do you ?
[01:43] <Arwen> Minataku, they do
[01:43] <pagan0ne> Minataku: if i play the file directly, it has audio etc, it is basicaly a direct rip off the dvd, only not in iso format
[01:43] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: well, I don't say I disagree with their opinion on it
[01:43] <Arwen> pagan0ne, did you even read my link?
[01:43] <Minataku> Fair enough
[01:43] <Minataku> I've been wrong before ;3
[01:43] <pagan0ne> Arwen: im getting to it, its active in here
[01:43] <hikaricore> imagine that
[01:43] <hikaricore> I was wrong once too
[01:43] <hikaricore> a long time ago
[01:43] <hikaricore> heh
[01:43] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: yes but for me it just means you are trying to dictate feature sets based on faulty opinion, you may as well just become Microsoft
[01:44] <Arwen> hikaricore, don't use enter as punctuation :-)
[01:44] <Minataku> s/once/many\ times/
[01:44] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: :D
[01:44] <Minataku> s/a\ long\ time\ ago/most\ of\ the\ time/
[01:44] <PhinnFort> intelikey: no, sorry
[01:44] <Minataku> j/k
[01:44] <Minataku> XD
[01:44] <hikaricore> :P
[01:45] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: basically the #kde guys say put a 40 character link in the email, to me that just very messy
[01:45] <PhinnFort> tell them that, then
[01:45] <Minataku> BTW, sorry everyone for getting a bit angry earlier, didn't mean to be fighting anyone X3
[01:45] <pagan0ne> Arwen: i think your link is what i needed, thanks
[01:45] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: I did they called me a troll
[01:45] <PhinnFort> Minataku: what did you do to cool yourself down;)
[01:45] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: hum, how did you say it?
[01:45] <Minataku> PhinnFort: Nothing
[01:45] <PhinnFort> :P
[01:45] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: they are officially morons now in my books
[01:46] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: well, did you try mailody?
[01:46] <Minataku> I cool down after a bit of time
[01:46] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: it only supports imap, though
[01:46] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: we use pop and imap
[01:46] <njt88> Arwen: sorry to bothrer you. Tried d.loading medibuntu and running apt-get install w32 codecs but response was E: couldn't find pakage w32. any ideas?
[01:46] <Minataku> What about good 'ol sendmail?
[01:47] <Arwen> njt88, 1 word
[01:47] <PhinnFort> njt88: no space
[01:47] <Arwen> "w32codecs"
[01:47] <Linux_Galore> our email server is exim on a freebsd machine
[01:47] <intelikey> sendmail is good    fetchmail is...   well it works.
[01:47] <njt88> Arwen: ok thanks i'll try that
[01:47] <PhinnFort> pine
[01:47] <Minataku> Pine and Pico <3
[01:47] <Linux_Galore> mutt
[01:48] <hikaricore> pico ftw
[01:48] <Minataku> And it's F/OSS reimplementation, nano
[01:48] <intelikey> heh  pico   the symlink to nano
[01:48] <Minataku> The best f*cking editor ever
[01:48] <PhinnFort> NANO NANO NANO
[01:48] <Linux_Galore> makes emacs look almost sane (@ mutt)
[01:48] <PhinnFort> <3 Nano <3
[01:48] <Linux_Galore> pffft vim
[01:48] <hikaricore> pico sounds more spanish, making it hawter than nano
[01:48] <pagan0ne> me love NANO
[01:48] <Minataku> RMS is an alien with 37 fingers... on each hand
[01:48] <njt88> Arewn: already the newset version. MUst be something else. NEvermind I'll ask my mate and see what he thinks. Thanks for your help, dude ^_^
[01:48] <intelikey> !editor_war
[01:48] <hikaricore> ^_^
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about editor_war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <Minataku> That's the only way you can use emacs
[01:48] <PhinnFort> I used to use VIM, for about thirthy seconds, until someone told me about nano
[01:48] <Dragnslcr> Nano is damn nice
[01:48] <Linux_Galore> Ive used vim for years so Im biased
[01:48] <Kr4t05> Gee, I kinda wish Kiba-Dock wouldn't crash every two minutes... >>
[01:48] <pagan0ne> rofl @ Minataku
[01:48] <PhinnFort> !nano
[01:48] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[01:48] <PhinnFort> <3 KAAAAAAAAAATE!
[01:49] <Ace2016> yea nano is easy
[01:49] <Minataku> nano actually edits
[01:49] <Dragnslcr> Keyboard controls should never be 8 keystrokes (vim)
[01:49] <PhinnFort> edline
[01:49] <pagan0ne> nano is friendly, easy, useful, and doesnt get in the way
[01:49] <Dragnslcr> And emacs isn't a text editor, it's an entire operating system
[01:49] <PhinnFort> amen
[01:49] <PhinnFort> emacs is a religion
[01:49] <Minataku> Without doing any dumbass fancy sh*t or requiring the memorization of ##### commands
[01:49] <pagan0ne> Dragnslcr: emacs is a religon....
[01:49] <Arwen> hey hey... we're off topic again
[01:49] <intelikey> i'm sure i dont know all there is to know about vim/emacs  but i haven't found anything that they could do that mc -e  can't
[01:49] <PhinnFort> everything right there on the screen
[01:49] <Linux_Galore> I know a few people who live on emacs
[01:49] <PhinnFort> !ontopic
[01:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the Kubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:50] <Dragnslcr> I wonder if I still have that image...
[01:50] <hikaricore> emacs = scientology
[01:50] <pagan0ne> rofl
[01:50] <hikaricore> pwned!
[01:50] <intelikey> as an editor only  ^
[01:50] <hikaricore> lol
[01:50] <Minataku> Haha
[01:50] <PhinnFort> emacs is worse than scientology
[01:50] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know where I can find a stable package for kiba-dock for Feisty?
[01:50] <PriceChild> The topic for this channel is Kubuntu support. Back on topic please everyone :)
[01:50] <Linux_Galore> I saw one emacs guy who has written a lisp client so he can chat and message on Yahoo
[01:50] <PhinnFort> rotfl
[01:50] <PhinnFort> Kr4t05: compile it yourself
[01:51] <Minataku> Screw the topic :P
[01:51] <hikaricore>  O.o
[01:51] <Linux_Galore> anyway I digress
[01:51] <PhinnFort> weee, updates from the oxygen world
[01:51] <Arwen> ^^ - understatement of the year
[01:51] <Kr4t05> PhinnFort: I tried that... I keeps crashing... I'm no great shakes at compilation.
[01:51] <Minataku> Anyway, brb
[01:51] <PhinnFort> thank you pricechild
[01:51] <Linux_Galore> Im paying with kiba with beryl, talk about eye candy (or is that kandy) overload
[01:52] <Linux_Galore> playing*
[01:52] <Dragnslcr> Search Google Images for "text editor learning curves" and take a look at the first one
[01:52] <hikaricore> It always either didn't work at all, or looked shamefully ugly
[01:52] <Dragnslcr> Absolutely hilarious
[01:52] <Linux_Galore> Im on kde 4 alpha1, seems to work for me but needs a fairly good machine
[01:53] <PhinnFort> rotfl
[01:53] <hikaricore> Don't know why my intel celeron can't handle it  *sarcasme*
[01:53] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: do you have the oxygen style and windeco?
[01:53] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: or did you just get the packages?
[01:53] <mardi> hi all, my kubuntu feisty has suddenly stopped asking for root password when opening 'kdesu konqueror' and when clicking 'admin mode' in system settings, installing progarms etc. any ideas why?
[01:53] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: yes, Im trying to decide if I like it or now
[01:54] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: no I compiled it on Gentoo
[01:54] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: is resizing flickering?
[01:54] <PriceChild> mardi, it has a small time which it will remember the password for. About 5 minutes afaik
[01:54] <pagan0ne> mardi: it likes you :)
[01:54] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: "we had some serious problems with the new code of the windeco; Thomas is a great hacker about graphics, one of the best I know, but hes still an human, and needs some time to debug the problems that may eventually come up. Especially, theres a nasty bug that right now makes the GUI flashing a bit when resizing"
[01:54] <Linux_Galore> Philip5: a bit but then again allot of stuff is flickering and not rendering and leaving fragments
[01:54] <PhinnFort> from Riccardo Iaconelli
[01:54] <Minataku> PriceChild: wtf?
[01:54] <Minataku> Don't make ubotu tell me stupid things
[01:54] <Minataku> lol
[01:55] <hikaricore> heh
[01:55] <PriceChild> Minataku, watch your language please :)
[01:55] <PhinnFort> Minataku: he did that to me too, should we start a club of some sorts?
[01:55] <mardi> PriceChild, pagan0ne: all i've done so far is login, it hasn't asked for a password since :p
[01:55] <Linux_Galore> Philip5: think kicker is borked though, keeps crashing
[01:55] <PriceChild> mardi, odd... I'm not sure sorry if you haven't changed anything.
[01:55] <Minataku> PriceChild: You gave me "Don't change your nick in a busy channel"
[01:55] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: kicker is dying
[01:55] <hikaricore> mardi: you didn't modify your sudoers file recently did you?
[01:55] <Minataku> Not "Watch your f*cking language"
[01:55] <Minataku> That * is an "o", BTW
[01:55] <PhinnFort> oo
[01:56] <Minataku> Not my fault if you think like that
[01:56] <Dragnslcr> Shouldn't it be an 's'?
[01:56] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: there is no love between me and kicker heh
[01:56] <pagan0ne> not watch your fscking language?
[01:56] <Arwen> mardi, when's the last time you had to enter your password?
[01:56] <hikaricore> frack
[01:56] <PriceChild> Minataku, this is offtopic. please take it to pm with me if you want.
[01:56] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: seriously, kicker is going away in KDE 4
[01:56] <Minataku> fsck is FileSystem ChecK
[01:56] <mardi> hikaricore: maybe, i did enable this user to be part of the sudo group
[01:56] <mardi> Arwen: only at login, upon boot
[01:56] <Arwen> hmm
[01:56] <Minataku> fock is FOr Crap's saKe
[01:56] <Minataku> I just made that up but w/e
[01:56] <Minataku> XD
[01:56] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: actually Ive been told it will still be there until 4.1 because the applet stuff hasnt been finnished
[01:56] <PriceChild> !offtopic | Minataku
[01:56] <ubotu> Minataku: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:56] <PhinnFort> hikaricore: we recently had a concert here, and one of the bands decided to cover rage against the machine, but with a certain twist: "frack you, I won't do you what you told me"
[01:57] <Minataku> PriceChild: Okay, getting tired now
[01:57] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: Aaron keeps saying it will never be repaired for KDE 4 because it won't be used, though
[01:57] <Minataku> If you're gonna harass me about being offtopic you have to harass EVERYONE
[01:57] <PhinnFort> *bends
[01:58] <Minataku> Come on, get to it, chop chop
[01:58] <Linux_Galore> well Im talking kde issues in 4.0alpha
[01:58] <Minataku> Didn't think so
[01:58] <intelikey> ok i've been playing with the functions in that script it seems that it's in the redirrected input of the read command.
[01:58] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: it's still 3.8, or is it 3.9?
[01:59] <Minataku> Also, sorry for getting out of hand again
[01:59] <intelikey> i need to know how dash handles <<<   it's probably not usable  and needs to be  <   ?
[01:59] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: yeah I know but thats what it being posted as
[01:59] <Minataku> It's hot in here >.<
[01:59] <PhinnFort> Minataku: same here, it's flaming, you might say
[01:59] <hikaricore> ...
[01:59] <hikaricore> that was terrible
[02:00] <PhinnFort> heh
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[02:00] <hikaricore> sadly "man dash" just brings up the sh man pages
[02:00] <hikaricore> >.<
[02:00] <PhinnFort> but I almost understand why the maintainers that be set it as default
[02:01] <PhinnFort> if it wasn't for bug #1
[02:01] <Linux_Galore> I have allot of python stuff ans scripts dash totally messes allot of it up
[02:01] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash
[02:02] <PhinnFort> set bash back in power
[02:02] <Linux_Galore> PhinnFort: done that, Im using bash now
[02:02] <PhinnFort> :D
[02:02] <PhinnFort> it's a pain to track down dash related bugs
[02:02] <hikaricore> I remember after upgrading to edgy the first time I could barely use cli because of dash
[02:02] <hikaricore> everything was fubared
[02:02] <intelikey> "dash related bugs"   wouldn't that be better defined as non-posix bashism ?
[02:02] <hikaricore> >.<
[02:03] <PhinnFort> fun
[02:03] <PhinnFort> intelikey: well, yeah, but still;)
[02:03] <intelikey> :)
[02:03] <Linux_Galore> dash to me is analism gone mad
[02:03] <PhinnFort> Linux_Galore: aka. debianism?;)
[02:03] <Linux_Galore> yeah
[02:04] <Linux_Galore> I was hoping Ubuntu would avoid it
[02:04] <hikaricore> pfft
[02:04] <intelikey> here yall go again saying i'm debianic
[02:04] <PhinnFort> well, when you base something so much on another thing, you're bound to get some of the less fortunate stuff with it
[02:04] <PhinnFort> debianistic
[02:04] <PriceChild> PhinnFort, to -offtopic please.
[02:05] <Linux_Galore> well at least Ubuntu hasnt forked firefox
[02:05] <intelikey> yet
[02:06] <PhinnFort> *cough*ubuntustillcatchinguptodebianjustwaitandsee*cough*
[02:06] <Linux_Galore> lol
[02:06] <PhinnFort> sorry, PriceChild, I don't know what just happened
[02:07] <Linux_Galore> they need to take more Analism vitamins @ Ubuntu dev's
[02:07] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[02:07] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:07] <PriceChild> Support only people.
[02:07] <Linux_Galore> that was meant as a joke
[02:08] <PriceChild> Please stop commenting... move on :)
[02:14] <Ace2016> Hi all
[02:14] <Ace2016> does kompozer work for anyone else???
[02:14] <PhinnFort> Ace2016: where?
[02:14] <hikaricore> Works fine for me.
[02:14] <mardi> hi, i mistakenly remove the adm and admin groups from my user. now i get "Su returned with an error" when trying to do root things, anyone know how to fix this?
[02:15] <BluesKaj> what's komposer?
[02:15] <Ace2016> PhinnFort: what do you mean where?
[02:15] <Ace2016> hikaricore: mine segfaults
[02:15] <PhinnFort> Ace2016: what is kompozer/where can I get it?
[02:15] <Ace2016> its in the reos
[02:15] <Ace2016> repos*
[02:16] <hikaricore> Ace2016: Ohh now that I think of it, mine did too.
[02:16] <PhinnFort> !info kompozer
[02:16] <ubotu> Package kompozer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:16] <PhinnFort> no;)
[02:16] <hikaricore> Ace2016: I removed mine and replaced it with a version from getdeb.net
[02:16] <hikaricore> >.<
[02:16] <BluesKaj> !kompozer
[02:16] <ubotu> nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.
[02:16] <intelikey> mardi you'll have to boot into safe/recovery mode and add the groups or set a root password
[02:17] <mardi> intelikey: thanks! i'll give that a go :D
[02:17] <PhinnFort> intelikey: gpasswd -a usernam groupname
[02:17] <PhinnFort> I mean mardi
[02:17] <intelikey> mardi actually admin is the one  you need
[02:17] <PhinnFort> mardi: run gpasswd -a [username]  admin
[02:17] <intelikey> PhinnFort without root access     possably but not likely
[02:18] <PhinnFort> intelikey: i meant when she was in recovery
[02:18] <intelikey> PhinnFort oh.   yeah.   or usermod  and add the group
[02:19] <mardi> ok, that worked, rebooting now
[02:20] <willrjmarshall> Dumb question - but how do I see which groups a user belongs to?
[02:20] <intelikey> groups
[02:22] <intelikey> or more specificly  groups username    if you don't want to run it on the present user
[02:22] <willrjmarshall> Hmm. "www" doesn't show :/
[02:22] <PhinnFort> ok, wtf does Konqueror _always_ open .deb files I download from the 'net in Kate?
[02:22] <PhinnFort> friggin irritating
[02:22] <willrjmarshall> PhinnFort: There's a right-click context menu for using it properly
[02:23] <PhinnFort> willrjmarshall: from webpages?
[02:23] <willrjmarshall> Oh. Hang on - opens automatically without clicking?
[02:23] <willrjmarshall> Go change it :p
[02:23] <mardi> intelikey, PhinnFort: that fixed it, thanks much for the help :)
[02:23] <PhinnFort> willrjmarshall: if I choose to save as, it tries to deduce the filename from the link, so it's usually download.php
[02:23] <PhinnFort> mardi: yw;)
[02:23] <intelikey> not at all mardi
[02:24] <hikaricore> there's your problem lol
[02:24] <willrjmarshall> Peh
[02:24] <PhinnFort> willrjmarshall: I click on the link to download something (from for example kde-apps.org), and then kate pops up
[02:24] <willrjmarshall> I see
[02:24] <willrjmarshall> That *would* be a pain
[02:24] <PhinnFort> it is
[02:24] <willrjmarshall> I'm fairly sure Konq allows you to configure filemask behaviour
[02:24] <willrjmarshall> But I wouldn't know how
[02:25] <intelikey> mime types
[02:25] <intelikey> in the konq config
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> wow...
[02:26] <PhinnFort> well, x-debs are associated with Ark
[02:28] <intelikey> ok i think what you are running into is pretty loop legged.  but the download manager is what is "opening" the file, and not konqueror itself.   check that out maybe.
[02:28] <Ace2016> hikaricore: thanks that worked :)
[02:30] <intelikey> now if i can just figure out a way to get an array of something to work in a dash script where   while read line <here_docs   doesn't work cause it's a 'bash' thang !   .........
[02:38] <intelikey> seems that every thing i think of to use there turns out to be a 'bash thang'   i obviously spent too much time learning 'bash' and not enough learning the differances
[02:39] <dave__> hi
[02:45] <intelikey> dave__
[02:47] <intelikey> everyone already has a pastebin script ?   this one is posix compliant  :)     http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37319
[02:47] <PhinnFort> Just what do you think you're doing, Dave? Dave, I really think I'm entitled to an answer to that question.
[02:48] <intelikey> is he snooping around your box ?
[02:48] <PhinnFort> HAL: I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
[02:48] <Minataku> Let you do that
[02:48] <PhinnFort> Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.
[02:48] <Minataku> I'm afraid I can't let you do that
[02:48] <Minataku> I haven't even seen the movie and I know that line :P
[02:48] <PhinnFort> :P
[02:48] <hikaricore> I hate when people muck up good quotes
[02:48] <PhinnFort> well, I'm c&p from wikiquote
[02:49] <PhinnFort> so I think it's accurate
[02:49] <hikaricore> that's your problem
[02:49] <hikaricore> wiki = fail
[02:49] <PhinnFort> delete .kde?
[02:50] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.
[02:50] <PhinnFort> - HAL
[02:50] <hikaricore> i think hald is the son of HAL
[02:50] <hikaricore> heh
[02:50] <PhinnFort> I saw your lips moving
[02:50] <PhinnFort> (or something)
[02:51] <intelikey> wouldn't that be hal jr  not hald ?
[02:51] <mindslant> is there a GUI way to add reposotories?
[02:51] <intelikey> mindslant yes  in adept
[02:51] <intelikey> !repos
[02:51] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:51] <hikaricore> intelikey: nope, that's what they want you to think
[02:52] <intelikey> i think that has some info on it.
[02:52] <mindslant> I feel like an idiot, thx
[02:53] <intelikey> however i don't even try to keep up with the wiki's
[02:53] <intelikey> they are about as stable as water
[02:54] <intelikey> as unmovable as air,  as solid as space;  as permanant as lightening.....
[02:55] <intelikey> but all things considered, they are pretty good....
[02:55] <intelikey> :)
[02:55] <drblood_> how can i turn my sound up higher
[02:55] <intelikey> alsamixer
[02:55] <intelikey> adjust  pcm  and master
[02:56] <intelikey> ?
[02:56] <pawitp> !maroska
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maroska - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <pawitp> !mkv
[02:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:56] <drblood_> i was watching an episode of an anime
[02:56] <drblood_> on a site
[02:56] <drblood_> then i turned on a song from another site while running it so then the sound got 10x softer
[02:56] <drblood_> i can barely hear it :'(
[02:57] <intelikey> some people cry about the strangest things...
[02:57] <drblood_> i cant watch my anime
[02:57] <drblood_> >_>
[02:57] <intelikey> alsamixer
[02:58] <intelikey> kmix maybe too
[02:58] <drblood_> .......
[02:58] <drblood_> wat should i do?
[02:58] <intelikey> you sould wait for someone else to answer you.
[02:58] <drblood_> y
[02:58] <intelikey> next !
[02:58] <GrueTamer> type alsamixer in the terminal
[02:59] <drblood_> now wat
[02:59] <GrueTamer> turn up pcm and master, sometimes master mono helps too, if you have it
[02:59] <drblood_> how do u turn it up
[02:59] <GrueTamer> up arrow
[03:00] <drblood_> im using kubuntu
[03:00] <GrueTamer> yeah...
[03:00] <BluesKaj> unmute with the letter M, and make sure the ctrls show 00
[03:00] <drblood_> i dont see an arrow
[03:00] <GrueTamer> alsamixer isnt a (k)ubuntu thing
[03:00] <GrueTamer> no, use the up arrow key
[03:01] <BluesKaj> the slider title is highlighted in red
[03:01] <drblood_> i pressed the up arrow king
[03:01] <drblood_> arrow key*
[03:01] <drblood_> didnt do n e thin
[03:01] <GrueTamer> is it already maxed?
[03:01] <drblood_> no
[03:02] <intelikey> !info alsamixergui
[03:02] <drblood_> PCM has 1 green bar
[03:02] <ubotu> alsamixergui: graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0rc2-1-9 (feisty), package size 29 kB, installed size 148 kB
[03:02] <GrueTamer> turn it up
[03:02] <drblood_> front 1 red
[03:02] <drblood_> then everything else has nothing at all
[03:02] <GrueTamer> like, keep hitting the up arrow
[03:02] <BluesKaj> !alsa
[03:02] <drblood_> am i supposed to click on something
[03:02] <GrueTamer> no
[03:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:03] <GrueTamer> have the volume thing that you want to make louder selected and hit the up arrow key repeatedly
[03:03] <drblood_> do u want me to have the terminal maximized
[03:03] <GrueTamer> no
[03:03] <drblood_> wen hitting the up arrow key
[03:03] <drblood_> hm
[03:03] <drblood_> i just press the up arrow key
[03:03] <drblood_> ?
[03:03] <GrueTamer> keep hitting it, and if it doesnt do anything, try increasing master mono
[03:03] <GrueTamer> make sure that it doesnt say MM though, if it does, hit the m key
[03:03] <GrueTamer> one time
[03:04] <GrueTamer> then raise it
[03:04] <drblood_> i dont press ctr+up key?
[03:04] <GrueTamer> no
[03:04] <drblood_> i dont get it
[03:04] <GrueTamer> !info alsamixergui
[03:04] <ubotu> alsamixergui: graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0rc2-1-9 (feisty), package size 29 kB, installed size 148 kB
[03:04] <GrueTamer> you might prefer that
[03:04] <drblood_> i type in alsamixer on the terminal
[03:04] <drblood_> then press the up arrow key?
[03:04] <drblood_> thats it?
[03:05] <GrueTamer> press the up arrow key multiple times to keep increasing the volume
[03:05] <GrueTamer> hitting it once increases it one level
[03:05] <drblood_> the level doesnt go up
[03:05] <GrueTamer> then its maxed
[03:05] <drblood_> now it does
[03:05] <GrueTamer> now go to the master mono column, if it exist, by using the right or left arrow key, depending on the direction
[03:05] <drblood_> i see the problem
[03:05] <drblood_> u had to select a category thing
[03:05] <drblood_> :-D
[03:05] <drblood_> <3
[03:06] <drblood_> ty
[03:06] <GrueTamer> did it work?
[03:06] <drblood_> yes
[03:06] <drblood_> <3
[03:06] <GrueTamer> just goes to show what the terminal can do for you
[03:06] <GrueTamer> and your welcome
[03:07] <drblood_> thankyou!
[03:07] <drblood_> sorry im a noob with kubuntu tho :\
[03:10] <intelikey> drblood_ we all had to start somewhere.
[03:10] <intelikey> don't worry about it.
[03:10] <willrjmarshall> Being a noob is fun!
[03:10] <willrjmarshall> Everything is cool and mysterious
[03:10] <intelikey> yeah  even after 10 years it's still kinda fun to be a noob       heh !
[03:11] <willrjmarshall> I've only been using Linux for 6 months, so I still find myself a noob regularly
[03:13] <intelikey> i've used linux so long now, i'm kinda sick of it.   but all it takes is 30 seconds at a windows box; and i'm all zealotic again....
[03:14] <intelikey> someone mentioned two days ago "why don't you use plan9..."
[03:14] <intelikey>   hehhe  i have...
[03:15] <intelikey> so i just kinda ignored the statement at the time.
[03:15] <willrjmarshall> intelikey: I've never actually used Windows. How bad is it?
[03:16] <drblood_> o.o
[03:17] <intelikey> willrjmarshall if you're a control freek like i am.  totally unbareable !   if you want things to "just work" and never see how or why and you don't read the EULA,  and you don't care about the price, and you don't care if the software lies to you....  i guess it's not too bad.
[03:18] <intelikey> oh and did i mention you have to live with your consciense knowing the evil practices that M$ has been, and still is involved in....
[03:18] <intelikey> other than those few minor things,  hey it's great.
[03:19] <intelikey> but don't get me started.
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[03:21] <willrjmarshall> Heh
[03:21] <willrjmarshall> I've fiddled with XP a few times before - only thing I noticed was that the UI sucks
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> XP's interface only sucks if you don't change the color scheme and a lot of the stuff to classic mode
[03:22] <intelikey> no not only if.  but changing it does help a little
[03:22] <BluesKaj> ran windows for 7 yrs before switching
[03:24] <intelikey> i ran win 3.1 95 98 and then found linux    needless to say win ME had gotten bad enough i wasn't going to continue down that digression.
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> I had 3.11, 95 (for a bit), 98, 2k, and XP
[03:25] <BluesKaj> kubuntu was finally the distro that doesn't have such a steep learning curve that old guys like me can learn to use it.
[03:25] <Evil_DuDe> i ran windows 95 to xp and got tired of it
[03:25] <Evil_DuDe> BluesKaj: well, thats very good for you
[03:25] <intelikey> i still have 95,  kept it for the kids's games.
[03:25] <Evil_DuDe> heh :)
[03:26] <Evil_DuDe> is it connected to internet ?
[03:26] <intelikey> no
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> I installed Kubuntu on my parents' computer. I doubt they'll keep it for long though
[03:26] <Evil_DuDe> yeah, good decision :)
[03:26] <Evil_DuDe> yeah, my friend is also trying to get his mother to use Ubuntu
[03:26] <intelikey> ar you crazy.  you think i want someone messing up my linux system just cause the kids booted windows....
[03:27] <RawSewage> does WoW run perfectly in Kubuntu
[03:27] <Hirvinen> Dragnslcr: Well, my grandmother's happy with hers.
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> Unfortunately they have two or three programs that only work in Windows
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> One of them requires IE
[03:27] <Evil_DuDe> RawSewage: they sai it does, but haven't tested myself
[03:27] <drblood_> how do u send folders over to someone using Kopete
[03:27] <RawSewage> Evil_DuDe, ok ty
[03:27] <BluesKaj> still have XP on a partition for keeping up with stuff ...my daughter finally got a laptop and i walk thru windows apps with her to help her learn.
[03:27] <intelikey> Evil_DuDe that's simple,   install it and configure it,  then give her the box, and say 'here use this, and call me if you need me'   you wont get called much.
[03:27] <Evil_DuDe> oh say i mean
[03:28] <Hirvinen> RawSewage: Yes. In general, you should search Wine's application database to find out if a particular program is working.
[03:28] <Evil_DuDe> intelikey: yeah :)
[03:28] <Hirvinen> RawSewage: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[03:29] <Hirvinen> RawSewage: You might have to(or want to) use a version of wine newer than the one supplied with Feisty. See http://winehq.com/ for the repository.
[03:29] <Dragnslcr> My girlfriend needs a new laptop soon, I might get her another Dell if I can convince her to use Kubuntu
[03:29] <Hirvinen> RawSewage: Whoops, http://appdb.winehq.com/
[03:29] <RawSewage> Hirvinen, ok
[03:29] <intelikey> my mother is 65 and i put linux on her's cause i didn't want to admin a M$ machine...  she called me about three times.   "printer reset"  that's the only issue.
[03:29] <RawSewage> Hirvinen, yeah, I was reading that now
[03:29] <intelikey> Evil_DuDe ^
[03:29] <BluesKaj> cool, intelikey
[03:29] <Evil_DuDe> cool :)
[03:30] <BluesKaj> <--almost 64 ...hmmms
[03:31] <Evil_DuDe> oh wow
[03:31] <intelikey> i never have exactly figured out why.  but if she cancels a print job after it starts printing.  it hangs cups out to dry...  i can manually reset the printer and all is well,  but it's a drive over there to do that....
[03:31] <Evil_DuDe> thats pretty impressing, i must say :)
[03:32] <Evil_DuDe> BluesKaj: haha :D
[03:32] <Dragnslcr> I left an XP CD for my parents last time I went to try to get some crappy Windows-only stuff working in VMWare
[03:32] <proxie> anybody use Amarok by any chance?
[03:32] <Dragnslcr> Their last install got completely hosed by some anti-spam program tech support idiot
[03:32] <Evil_DuDe> proxie: me
[03:32] <Hirvinen> My grandmother's over 70. I think the only problem has been with me fucking up her sources.list, which resulted in a system that didn't get to X. I then talked her through setting up an ssh tunnel that allowed me to connect there past her router's NAT on the phone. ;)
[03:33] <proxie> Evil_DuDe: You know if it's possible to display your collection listing differently?
[03:33] <Hirvinen> Whoops, sorry about the language.
[03:33] <BluesKaj> not all old guys sit in front of the tv all day
[03:33] <Evil_DuDe> proxie: what do you mean,
[03:34] <proxie> Like when I click on the + it lists all the albums for that artist
[03:34] <intelikey> BluesKaj i don't own a "tv"  :)
[03:34] <proxie> I would liek to add in the "year" of the album
[03:34] <proxie> like*
[03:34] <Evil_DuDe> ahh yeah sure
[03:35] <proxie> ahhh crap. I just found it :)
[03:35] <proxie> "Group By"
[03:35] <proxie> woohoo
[03:35] <BluesKaj> yeah , prolly got a 26" monitor that has video feeds from pc and sat dish or cable conn :)
[03:35] <Evil_DuDe> yeah :D
[03:35] <Charles_HKG> Where can I find addins for Konquerer that will allow me ot have multiple email accounts and passwords and a decent contact manager like ACT for microshyte?
[03:36] <intelikey> BluesKaj short screen at that...     but no 17" crt actually.   and a donkey load of 15"er's
[03:36] <Dragnslcr> Ouch
[03:36] <Dragnslcr> I had a 19" CRT for years
[03:36] <Dragnslcr> Upgraded to a 20" LCD last year
[03:37] <Dragnslcr> I can't do anything less than 1600x1200
[03:37] <BluesKaj> heh, same here ...use my 17" as a tv some nights, (spare sat receiver)...tv wonder pro and tvtime
[03:38] <intelikey> best monitor i have ever looked at for more than a minute.  is a 15" svga    so clean clear sharp and yet soft on the eyes.   they don't make them like that anymore.
[03:39] <intelikey> anymore seems like everything wants to "(lazor) slice your eyes to ribbons"  but looks good doing it.
[03:40] <BluesKaj> really gotta fiddle with the contrast tho..waaay outta line..total white bloom otherwise
[03:40] <Dragnslcr> My 20" Samsung is pretty nice
[03:40] <Dragnslcr> Huge improvement over my old CRT
[03:41] <intelikey> i wish this crt was about .5 as bright over all.  bright set to 0   contrast set to 40% is to bright still.
[03:41] <Dragnslcr> Maybe I should try getting Beryl running again
[03:41] <BluesKaj> lcd must have come a long way over the last few yrd
[03:41] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, they have
[03:41] <intelikey> indeed they have.
[03:42] <intelikey> but still have a ways to go imo.
[03:42] <BluesKaj> my crt blooms only in the TV mode
[03:42] <Dragnslcr> I was a bit worried when I was looking to buy one, since they usually didn't handle games well
[03:42] <Evil_DuDe> I think so too, but i rather buy LCD nowadays
[03:43] <intelikey> when angle doesn't affect them then they will be good.
[03:43] <Evil_DuDe> yeah, thats true
[03:43] <BluesKaj> yup, agreed
[03:43] <Dragnslcr> Mine is barely affected by angle
[03:43] <intelikey> Dragnslcr really ?
[03:44] <Dragnslcr> I can see the screen pretty well out to 160-170 degrees
[03:44] <Evil_DuDe> very nice
[03:44] <intelikey> impressed.
[03:44] <intelikey> ooops
[03:44] <BluesKaj> only 10degrees of scrn
[03:44] <intelikey> >/impressed>
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[03:44] <intelikey> i'll get it wrong in a minute
[03:45] <Evil_DuDe> i can only turn something like 60 degrees
[03:45] <Evil_DuDe> then the colors get messed up a little
[03:45] <Dragnslcr> Of course I'm red-green color blind, so I probably wouldn't notice color distortion anyway
[03:45] <Evil_DuDe> but this is very old LCD, about two years old i think
[03:45] <intelikey> yeah that's what i'm used to seeing Evil_DuDe
[03:45] <BluesKaj> bummer
[03:46] <intelikey> people don't have new hardware worked on.....
[03:46] <Evil_DuDe> but i'm thinking of buying a new LCD, something like 20" or 20"
[03:46] <Evil_DuDe> oh 21"
[03:46] <intelikey> short screen ?
[03:46] <BluesKaj> so i guess you look for which light is lit at intersections "the top one being red and the bottom green"
[03:46] <Evil_DuDe> dunno yet
[03:47] <intelikey> they call it "wide"  but i know short when i see short....
[03:47] <Evil_DuDe> yeah :D
[03:47] <Evil_DuDe> but i don't have very much money right now and i'm about to start my civil service
[03:48] <intelikey> BluesKaj that's confusing in some towns where they're horizontal ....
[03:48] <SillyZ> q: theres php-nuke, and there was another one, and ill be damned if i can remember its name its php-something....
[03:48] <radioaktivstorm> is there a way to change the orientation of kde....by that i mean everything seems to like horizontal scrolling, which i feel is immensely inconvienent
[03:49] <intelikey> SillyZ  apt-cache search -n php
[03:49] <BluesKaj> intelikey, never seen that here in Canada
[03:49] <SillyZ> ya Ive done that intel
[03:49] <intelikey> BluesKaj it's mostly phased out down here too.
[03:50] <BluesKaj> I'm tired ...been outside all day ...worn out
[03:50] <BluesKaj> nite gents & gentilles
[03:51] <Evil_DuDe> I'm little tired too, haven't slept in 24 hours or so
[03:51] <Dragnslcr> SillyZ- what are you looking for, a program to give people root access to your box?
[03:51] <intelikey> heh
[03:51] <SillyZ> heh no, if i wanted to do that id just post the root password on youtube
[03:51] <SillyZ> :D
[03:51] <Evil_DuDe> yeah :D
[03:51] <Evil_DuDe> cheap and free ftp-server :)
[03:51] <Dragnslcr> Heh, I think phpnuke would be easier
[03:51] <SillyZ> I used to run a php based site, it wasnt php-nuke it was the other one, but ill be damned if I can remember the name of it
[03:52] <radioaktivstorm> also is there a way to  keep one row of tasks beyond 35px?
[03:52] <Evil_DuDe> i mean fast and free :D
[03:52] <Evil_DuDe> damn, i think i should go to bed :D
[03:52] <Evil_DuDe> writing all kind of nonsense :D
[03:52] <intelikey> what am i saying
[03:53] <Evil_DuDe> onoes
[03:54] <jacques> does someone know a mirror to download the kubuntu gutsy cdimage?
[03:54] <intelikey> radioaktivstorm that should be one of the  FAQ's for this channel.... i don't know if it is even listed in the wikis or not.  but i do see lots of folks asking about the size/shape of the tray
[03:55] <Evil_DuDe> nah, no need for bed i just listen Queen and have some good time :)
[03:56] <intelikey> i sussposss i kould install kde so i kould answer those kinds of kwestions.
[03:56] <Evil_DuDe> haha, that reminds me of Mortal Kombat :D
[03:56] <Evil_DuDe> Kredits and so on :)
[03:57] <intelikey> :)
[03:58] <intelikey> i just kant find enough kurrage to attempt kde again.
[03:58] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[03:58] <Kr4t05> Does anyone else have issues with SuperKaramba spazzing when Beryl starts?
[04:00] <radioaktivstorm> intelikey, thanks! ill poke around some more
[04:00] <intelikey> oh don't thank me.  all i've done was take up text buffer...
[04:01] <intelikey> could have jsut as easily said " i don't know "     but i do see lots of folks asking about it in here....
[04:01] <Dr_willis> *BufferOverflow*
[04:01] <intelikey> turncates so no biggy
[04:02] <intelikey> is biggy a word ?
[04:03] <Kr4t05> intelikey: biggie(
[04:03] <Kr4t05> **
[04:03] <Kr4t05> Bleh...
[04:03] <intelikey> }
[04:03] <radioaktivstorm> X_X i am finding kde exceedingly hard to mod to fit my needs.
[04:04] <intelikey> need != want
[04:04] <intelikey> :)
[04:04] <intelikey> Kr4t05   sp biggie
[04:04] <intelikey> sorry; aspell could not spell (biggie) correctly!
[04:05] <intelikey> biggy either...
[04:05] <Dr_willis> Hmm. Does superkaramba come wth any eye-candy applets by default?  The 'open' dialog is pointing to my home dir. not where any examples would be.
[04:05] <Kr4t05> Dr_willis: No, it doesn't come with any karamba
[04:05] <Kr4t05> Dr_willis: kde-look.org is a good place to get some.
[04:06] <Dr_willis> Kr4t05,  ok. Not seeing any 'example applets for karamba' in the package manager either.
[04:06] <Dr_willis> just seemed odd some one dident package a few of the better ones to get ya started. :)
[04:06] <DaSkreech> It's mild mannered
[04:07] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: better for who? :)
[04:07] <DaSkreech> As I recall some people are underwhelmed by a  clock
[04:08] <Dr_willis>   Aha ---->   / usr/share/doc/superkaramba/examples/
[04:08] <Dr_willis> there is a few examples. :)
[04:08] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  that Clock in the Sidebar under Vista is my wifes Favoritet Feature.
[04:08] <Dr_willis> and that litte lightsout game.
[04:09] <DaSkreech> There is a game?
[04:09] <DaSkreech> And it's not sudoku? Fascinating
[04:10] <intelikey> so stuperkaramba is a natural part of kde ?   i didn't know that.
[04:10] <Dr_willis> Under vista's sidebar theres a Puzzle game (1-15) and a Lights Out game. Shes discovered. :)
[04:10] <Dr_willis> She wants similer things under KDE for herself.
[04:10] <Dr_willis> so im tracking them down for her.
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: service pack 1?
[04:11] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  No idea. She has a Cheap Laptop that came with Vista. and shes getting sick of it. so shes going tohbe learning Kubuntu soon.. :)
[04:11] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: ahh the toucan can be changed to numbers
[04:12] <DaSkreech> I dont see lights out though
[04:12] <DaSkreech> Can you ask the good doctor's Wife where she got the Lights out?
[04:12] <Dr_willis> Hmm she may of installed that herself.
[04:12] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Common sense?
[04:12] <Dr_willis> It must of been on the vista games/sidebar page. thats the only place she chould of looked.
[04:13] <intelikey> DaSkreech well   i think it may be more   "prejudus" than sense....
[04:13] <Minataku> Dr_willis: :D
[04:13] <Kr4t05> Wow...
[04:13] <Dr_willis> somthing else i need to find is a Solitare Game (with simple solitare variants like for kids) with Zoomable cards. She likes to play without her glasses. so she needs BIG cards.
[04:13] <Kr4t05> Kore is very nice.
[04:13] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: following plasma?
[04:13] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Perhaps pysol
[04:13] <Minataku> I know it has card set support
[04:14] <Minataku> Dunno if they can be zoomed
[04:14] <Dr_willis> she perfers the Kids-type solitare where ya can put a black4 on a black5 and so forth - color dosent matter.
[04:14] <Minataku> But it's got assloads of Solitare variants
[04:14] <Dr_willis> Pysol dosetn go big enough. she ends up setting her res to like 800x600 which really screws up everything else.
[04:14] <Dr_willis> Of course there may be new cardsets for pysol by now
[04:14] <Minataku> Ah
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Minataku: have you ever tried to fill an assload?
[04:15] <Dr_willis> Get a Great High-res monitor for her.. and what does she do.. sets it to 800x600
[04:15] <DaSkreech> It's not nearly as much as it implies
[04:15] <Minataku> DaSkreech: It takes an assload of ass to fill an assload
[04:15] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heh
[04:15] <intelikey> well here's enough reason for a dialup user to "NOT" install kde     Need to get 33.8MB/248MB of archives.    the 33M is all updates sense the last time i did that.
[04:15] <Minataku> Dr_willis: So what were you doing all day today? :3
[04:15] <Minataku> I was playing videogames and sleeping XD
[04:18] <intelikey> ok lagging off the irc scope.  gooday and happy penguins to all.
[04:19] <DaSkreech> intelikey: night
[04:19] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  looking at USED CARS
[04:19] <trakinas> hey
[04:19] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Ouch
[04:19] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  and shes getting on my nerves
[04:19] <Minataku> Sounds sucky
[04:19] <trakinas> anyone good with video edition?
[04:19] <Minataku> Heh
[04:19] <Dr_willis> 'i just want a junker car.. for a few months that i can then trade in on the NEW car i want  later'
[04:19] <Minataku> That's... pretty stupid
[04:19] <Dr_willis> Welcome to being MARRIED. :)
[04:20] <Minataku> Haha
[04:20] <Dr_willis> but it keeps her busy. Otherwise she may be trying to redecorate the house., or somthing else that would be real work for me
[04:20] <Minataku> Hey, do you think shipping in separate boxes will cost more than putting everything in one or about the same (or less)?
[04:21] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  id guess about the same. theygo by weight dont they?
[04:22] <Ashex> anyone know how to restart the kde panels?
[04:22] <Dr_willis> My Brother gave me another Amiga Monitor today. :0
[04:22] <Ashex> they're being unresponsive to my clicks
[04:22] <Dr_willis> They make great little tv's
[04:22] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I think so
[04:22] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Do you have any of that ready to send?
[04:22] <khirr> i have the driver for my webcam, how can i configure it?
[04:23] <khirr> where is the folfer where it should be?
[04:23] <jacques> has someone used elisa before?
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Ashex: kicker
[04:23] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  i got the Scsi HD in a box thats about 1/2 full. looking for those Calculators to toss in. Found 1 so far
[04:23] <Dr_willis> found some foam also to pack it with.
[04:23] <DaSkreech> !webcam
[04:23] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:23] <Ashex> DaSkreech, kill it?
[04:23] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Coo, what about the four Amigas and the PSU?
[04:23] <trakinas> Ashex: i dont know. guess you can remove it and start a new one.
[04:23] <Minataku> Not trying to rush, just trying to defuse my own growing excitement XD
[04:23] <trakinas> Ashex: no. restarte kicker.
[04:23] <Dr_willis> I cant find a box the right size for them. VCR box's  got are too small. others are too big..
[04:23] <trakinas> =P
[04:24] <DaSkreech> Ashex: well If it's not responding
[04:24] <Minataku> Ah
[04:24] <Dr_willis> wanting to  pack them decently well.
[04:24] <Minataku> Indeed
[04:24] <khirr> my webcam is vimicro
[04:24] <Minataku> Who knows what UPS/USPS or whoever's cheapest will do to them
[04:24] <trakinas> i never saw an amiga... =(
[04:24] <Dr_willis> plys im finding other 'bits' here and there. The memory expansion units in another box..  a load of the Old atari type joysticks (need those?)
[04:24] <khirr> i found that one guy made 200+ drivers for this
[04:24] <Minataku> Yeah, may as well toss in a couple of them
[04:24] <Minataku> They have some proprietary mouse, ne?
[04:24] <trakinas> khirr: you probably have to run any webcam program to configure it.
[04:25] <Minataku> I can probably use a joystick as a pointing device XD
[04:25] <snowdonkey> Hi.  I'm having problems with Konsole running slowly.  It takes about 10 seconds for the prompt to appear, and another 10 seconds to close once I hit the X.
[04:25] <Ashex> hmm
[04:25] <khirr> but, when i use amsn, it doesnt run
[04:25] <Ashex> DaSkreech, killing it by pid or name doesn't appear to be working
[04:25] <khirr> to configure, either
[04:25] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: try xterm
[04:25] <vonkrolok> hi guys, got a prob with texlive2007 installation, can somebody help?
[04:25] <Ashex> nevermind
[04:25] <trakinas> kde is generaly slow here. im probably going to install e17 or xfce
[04:26] <Ashex> kill -3 PID worked
[04:26] <trakinas> vonkrolok: just ask, dont ask to ask.
[04:26] <snowdonkey> daskreech xterm is also running slowly, similar symptoms.
[04:26] <vonkrolok> trakinas: it's a bit long, if somebody is willing I'll get to that, but typing and not getting reply is frustrating
[04:26] <Minataku> kill alone sends SIGTERM, kill -9 sends SIGKILL
[04:26] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: That aint' good
[04:26] <Minataku> Always do alone first, followed by -9
[04:27] <vonkrolok> trakinas: anyhow, I started the install script sh
[04:27] <khirr> T_T
[04:27] <vonkrolok> trakinas: with root priviledges
[04:27] <Minataku> SIGTERM btw is Signal 15
[04:27] <vonkrolok> trakinas: but unexplicably I get  this error message
[04:27] <snowdonkey> daskreech Could it have to do with graphics drivers?  I'm using the latest Nvidia proprietary.
[04:27] <vonkrolok> trakinas:  Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[04:28] <trakinas> vonkrolok: hmmmm... where are you trying to install it?
[04:28] <vonkrolok> trakinas: supposedly with root it should be able to create those dirs, but apparetly it doesn't
[04:28] <vonkrolok> trakinas: default dirs
[04:29] <trakinas> strange.
[04:29] <trakinas> what about tex2007 own faqs?
[04:29] <vonkrolok> trakinas: doesn't say a thing about it
[04:30] <vonkrolok> according to them I should type
[04:30] <vonkrolok> trakinas: sh install-tl.sh and it should go smooth
[04:30] <vonkrolok> trakinas: not exactly the case apparently
[04:30] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: that shouldn't make just the konsoles slow
[04:31] <Minataku> Dr_willis: By the way, thanks again for donating all your "trash" to me X3
[04:31] <snowdonkey> daskreech Ok, I was trying to think of what changed since I last installed Dapper.  :-/
[04:31] <vonkrolok> trakinas: in particular it seems uncapable to access dirs in the texmf-dist main root
[04:32] <trakinas> hmmmm... what about google?  couldnt find anything?
[04:32] <excitatory> So does anyone else experience random hard freezes in feisty?  I've been exhaustively searching various forums, mailing lists, and bug reports and are finding piles of users with the very same problem.  It tends to be independent of the video card and if desktop effects are enabled or not.
[04:32] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: what do you have in your ~/.bash_logout ?
[04:33] <vonkrolok> trakinas: been bashing my head on that for about 2 weeks...nothing done
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  heh told the wife to help me pack stuff for ya.. she said 'ya going to pay me?'
[04:33] <Dr_willis> I wont repeate my reply to her.. :) this is a faimly channel
[04:33] <snowdonkey> daskreech Here's what my ~/.bash_logout says:
[04:33] <Minataku> Dr_willis: XD
[04:34] <snowdonkey> # ~/.bash_logout: executed by bash(1) when login shell exits.
[04:34] <snowdonkey> # when leaving the console clear the screen to increase privacy
[04:34] <snowdonkey> if [ "$SHLVL" = 1 ] ; then
[04:34] <snowdonkey>     [ -x /usr/bin/clear_console ]  && /usr/bin/clear_console -q
[04:34] <snowdonkey> fi
[04:34] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: patsebin it
[04:34] <DaSkreech> !paste | snowdonkey
[04:34] <ubotu> snowdonkey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:34] <Dr_willis> she does a lot of catalog ordering - and darn it - if i can find any of the 100's of box's shes got to have SOMEWHERE in this house.
[04:34] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heehee
[04:34] <snowdonkey> daskreech Ok, I'm new to IRC so gimme a sec to figure out pastebin
[04:35] <Dr_willis> isent there some pastebin command/cli tool that makes using it a little easier?
[04:35] <khirr> how is the instrucction? make?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> ie: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinthisforme
[04:35] <vonkrolok> trakinas: now even access denied...jee...I'm with root privis
[04:35] <Dr_willis> would return the pastebin url?
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, would be nice
[04:36] <Minataku> sudo doesn't provide true root privliges
[04:36] <snowdonkey> daskreech Well as it is what's above are all the contents of the file anyway.
[04:36] <trakinas> vonkrolok: where you took it? i have to leave. my wirst is killing me....
[04:36] <Minataku> There are still some actions which require true root access
[04:36] <Dr_willis> isent there a 'cls' command to clear the console?
[04:36] <trakinas> Minataku: like sudo su?
[04:36] <Minataku> clear
[04:36] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: Yeah just letting you know that you should pastebin from here on out
[04:36] <trakinas> Dr_willis: clear
[04:36] <Minataku> trakinas: Something like that
[04:36] <DaSkreech> If it;s longer than one line
[04:37] <trakinas> Dr_willis: or control+l
[04:37] <vonkrolok> trakinas: from a console with a sudo su command
[04:37] <Dr_willis> i recall some 'echo escape-somthing' as a cls alias years ago. :0
[04:37] <Dr_willis> The serial-terminal days. :0
[04:37] <snowdonkey> daskreech Ok.  Then I just paste the url?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24932/
[04:37] <Minataku> Hey, I never knew of Ctrl+L
[04:37] <DaSkreech> trakinas: like cd into a root owned dir
[04:37] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: Yes
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, that's a new one for me too
[04:37] <trakinas> Minataku: =P
[04:38] <trakinas> now, i really have to leave. cheers folks!
[04:38] <Minataku> Have a link to Japanese QVC. You can watch online! http://qvc.jp
[04:38] <Minataku> XD
[04:39] <snowdonkey> daskreech Do you see anything out of the ordinary?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: no looks good and small as well
[04:39] <Minataku> Heh
[04:40] <Minataku> Not counting blank lines and comments mine is even smaller
[04:40] <Minataku> It's just "clear"
[04:40] <Minataku> :D
[04:40] <Dr_willis> I thought ctrl-l was redraw tthe screen.. or "formfeed" :) for printing
[04:40] <Minataku> Dr_willis: That's really all "clear" does
[04:41] <Minataku> It pushes everything off the top and reprints the prompt there
[04:41] <DaSkreech> clear prints like 23 lines I think
[04:42] <Minataku> ed@Piyoko /ext/D/Unix/Xenix/80386 2.3.4q $ file /usr/bin/clear
[04:42] <Minataku> /usr/bin/clear: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[04:42] <Minataku> Heehee, it's just your average executable
[04:42] <khirr> make
[04:42] <khirr> make install (ste como root)
[04:42] <khirr> how should i write this line of code on console?
[04:43] <Minataku> khirr: "make; sudo make install"
[04:43] <khirr> make
[04:43] <khirr> make install (ste como root)
[04:43] <khirr> uhmm
[04:43] <khirr> make: command not found
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> id use the & operator myself, just to ensure make worked
[04:43] <Minataku> You're missing build tools
[04:43] <Minataku> !build
[04:43] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:44] <Minataku> !info build-essential
[04:44] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[04:44] <Minataku> >.>
[04:44] <khirr> but, writeing make isnt enought?
[04:44] <Minataku> khirr: You need the make program
[04:44] <Minataku> Along with the compiler, linker and so on
[04:44] <khirr> makfile?
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> khirr, did you do ./configure first?
[04:44] <khirr> no
[04:44] <vonkrolok> anybody ever tried to install texlive2007 from a DVD?
[04:44] <Minataku> No, the program /usr/bin/make
[04:44] <khirr> there isnt that file
[04:45] <Minataku> !build | khirr
[04:45] <ubotu> khirr: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:45] <Minataku> Read that
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> hmmmm, usually ./configure is what makes the makefile
[04:45] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: Considering he doesn't even have make, that'll fail
[04:45] <Minataku> Guaranteed
[04:45] <khirr> but,in the folder there is one file that say
[04:45] <khirr> Makefile
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> he doesn't have make? wow
[04:46] <Minataku> khirr: You are missing the build tools
[04:46] <Minataku> Look, you seem to be reading Spanish instructions
[04:46] <khirr> i'll try it now
[04:46] <Minataku> !es | khirr
[04:46] <ubotu> khirr: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:47] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: Kubuntu doesn't COME with make
[04:47] <Minataku> Or gcc
[04:47] <Minataku> Or anything of the sort
[04:47] <Minataku> You're actively discouraged from ever compiling anything, after all
[04:48] <Minataku> Why would they give you from the start the tools to do it when they don't want you to? :P
[04:48] <khirr> ubotu i'm using manriva
[04:48] <Minataku> Sorry, I just think that's so stupid
[04:48] <DaSkreech> More like not enough space on the install CD
[04:48] <khirr> is something diferent?
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> me too
[04:48] <Minataku> DaSkreech: No, you're actively discouraged from compiling
[04:48] <DaSkreech> khirr: do you have make?
[04:48] <khirr> mak?
[04:48] <khirr> make?
[04:48] <Minataku> khirr: If you're using Mandriva, why are you asking for help in #kubuntu ?
[04:48] <DaSkreech> Minataku: yes.. but it's also because there is no space on the CD
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> khirr, try man make and see if it returns anything
[04:49] <Minataku> DaSkreech: Then why isn't it included as part of a network install?
[04:49] <khirr> cause, i was using of kubutu, are better person, in mandriva chanel, no one wanna hlp
[04:49] <Minataku> There's no excuse there
[04:49] <Minataku> khirr: Good point
[04:49] <khirr> make : command not found
[04:49] <Minataku> You have to pay for help with Mandriva
[04:49] <khirr> exactly
[04:49] <Minataku> Damn Frenchies, giving Linux a bad name
[04:50] <khirr> but, when i instlled kubuntu 7.04, not all ran good
[04:50] <Minataku> And I thought Americans were greedy
[04:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:50] <DaSkreech> Minataku: cause it's using the same package from the Cd?
[04:50] <Minataku> At least we don't charge you for help with Linux
[04:50] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heehee
[04:50] <khirr> uhmm, my video drivers in kubuntu never run good
[04:50] <khirr> is mycard integrate is VIA
[04:50] <Minataku> See, we ask for donations. They demand payment.
[04:50] <Dr_willis> Thats often the fault of the video card makers and their drivers
[04:50] <DaSkreech> Minataku: Kubuntu is either south african or Scottish :)
[04:50] <Dr_willis> not sure how well via is in that area however.
[04:51] <Minataku> African, but that's just the name
[04:51] <DaSkreech> khirr: do you have the mandriva Cds?
[04:51] <khirr> yes
[04:51] <khirr> dvd
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, check this out http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/
[04:51] <Aoshi> I need help!
[04:51] <khirr> i just want configure my webcam T_T
[04:51] <Aoshi> I have ntfs-config & ntfs-3g, but I still can't write in my ntfs partition!!!
[04:52] <DaSkreech> khirr: then install the make RPM
[04:52] <Jucato> anyone familiar with Bluetooth DUN? kinda need help getting IRC to work
[04:52] <khirr> exist?
[04:52] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: Heehee
[04:53] <Minataku> That last one makes no sense to me, though
[04:53] <Minataku> I like the Caldera one XD
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, its from the warty release...
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, google ubuntu warty naked or something like that :P
[04:53] <Minataku> Heh
[04:54] <DaSkreech> Hi Jucato
[04:54] <snake_> hi
[04:54] <snowdonkey> daskreech A guy in #ubuntu thinks slow Xterm is just a KDE bug.  :-/  Not sure I buy that...
[04:54] <DaSkreech> khirr: I don't know but I figure that it musr be on the CD
[04:54] <khirr> automake
[04:54] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: xterm doesn't touch KDE
[04:54] <khirr> i think it should be
[04:54] <snake_> i have a problem with my wireless device in kubuntu feisty
[04:54] <Minataku> khirr: You need whatever passes for the build tools package in Mandriva
[04:55] <khirr> i'll try with this file
[04:55] <snowdonkey> daskreech: Alright, 1 myth debunked
[04:55] <Dr_willis> run a x session with Just a xterm , and see if its slow.. No kde loaded at all.
[04:55] <snake_> the light is of and i can not connect with wireless
[04:55] <khirr> is there oooooone tool for drivers for lkubuntu?
[04:55] <khirr> in esasywy?
[04:55] <snowdonkey> dr_willis Ok, I'll try that
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> snake_, what's the card model/brand?
[04:56] <snake_> even knetworkmanager can not find my wireless. anyone that can help please
[04:56] <snake_> intel 802.11
[04:56] <Minataku> Dr_willis: twm
[04:56] <Minataku> :D
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, intel usually works out of the box...
[04:56] <snake_> yes it was working but i restarted
[04:56] <Minataku> Yeah, Intel is on our side
[04:56] <snake_> and now it doesnt
[04:57] <snake_> i mean i restarted the pc
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> module issue probably
[04:57] <snake_> do i have to reinstall something
[04:57] <snake_> ??
[04:57] <khirr> do u know one easyway to configurate a via video card on kubuntu?
[04:58] <DaSkreech> snake_: Laptop?
[04:58] <snake_> yes
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> snake_, try running iwconfig in a konsole and pastebin the out put please
[04:58] <snake_> ok
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> !paste | snake_
[04:58] <DaSkreech> some laptops have a physical kill switch for the Wireless see if you tripped it
[04:58] <ubotu> snake_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:59] <Minataku> brb
[05:00] <snake_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24935/
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> snake_, ok, your wireless card is there, its just not connected to anything
[05:01] <snake_> :S
[05:01] <snake_> hitmanWilly: so what do i have to do ?
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> snake_, apparently all the drivers are loaded...
[05:01] <snowdonkey> daskreech, dr_willis: I got this error printed about 10 times when I logged in without KDE: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24937/
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> snake_, is wireless enabled in knetwork manager?
[05:01] <snake_> hitmanWilly: no
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> snake_, try enabling it
[05:02] <Dr_willis> snowdonkey,  since its a 1 line error message.. ya COULDof pasted it. :)
[05:02] <Dr_willis> ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04
[05:02] <snowdonkey> heh
[05:02] <Dr_willis> that seems tobe saying to me - that ya got a hard drive issue.
[05:02] <snake_> no i mean it is enabled but it doesnt show my wireless connection
[05:02] <snake_> and the light of the wireless device is off
[05:02] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: not really
[05:02] <DaSkreech> Well maybe
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> snake_, do you know the name of the network you are trying to connect to?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> it doesn't make sense to me and I've never seen it before
[05:03] <snake_> yes
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> snake_, ok, try this in konsole:
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> sudo ifup eth1
[05:03] <DaSkreech> but it could be feisty pretending that all IDE's are sata/scsi again
[05:04] <snake_> hitmanWilly: ifup: interface eth1 already configured
[05:04] <Dr_willis> translated ata error x51/40 to scsi x3/11/04 ?
[05:04] <snake_> hitmanWilly: i can find it with my kwifimanager and it connects too but i can not navigate
[05:04] <snowdonkey> daskreech: I'm running Dapper.  After googling for the exact error this page did come up (looks to be HD problem): http://www.romantika.name/v2/2006/06/24/storage-emergency/
[05:05] <Minataku> Back
[05:05] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: well that might be an issue then
[05:05] <snake_> it connects , the light turs on but i can not navigate and do nothing
[05:05] <DaSkreech> snake_: do you get an IP
[05:05] <snake_> i use manual config
[05:05] <snake_> do i have to make dhcp ??
[05:06] <DaSkreech> can you ping the gateway?
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> snake_, yes, most wireless routers are set up for dhcp
[05:06] <DaSkreech> snake_: no
[05:06] <snake_> sure
[05:06] <snake_> i will try
[05:06] <snake_> to ping my gateway
[05:06] <Minataku> My router is split Static/Dynamic :3
[05:06] <snake_> host unreacheable
[05:07] <Minataku> snake_: Move closer
[05:07] <Minataku> j/k
[05:07] <snowdonkey> daskreech: After reading some the guy replaced his motherboard & fixed it...hrm.
[05:07] <Minataku> That's not what it means
[05:07] <Minataku> XD
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> snake_, try "iwlist scanning" in a console
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> snake_, see if that returns any results
[05:09] <snake_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24940/
[05:09] <snowdonkey> daskreech Thanks for your help getting to the bottom of this.  Same dr_willis.  :D
[05:09] <jarn> Is k3b capable of burning FLAC files?
[05:10] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: Sure sorry about the outcome
[05:10] <DaSkreech> jarn: Why not :)
[05:10] <jarn> DaSkreech: I would assume it was, but I wasn't sure.
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> snake_, ok, you should be able to connect then...you may just have to input the ESSID manually
[05:10] <Dr_willis> jarn,  I think it is.
[05:10] <snake_> ah ok
[05:10] <jarn> DaSkreech: I know on my Windows computer I had an unbelievable amount of trouble finding something that could.
[05:10] <khirr> i just want to configurate my webcam Y_Y
[05:10] <jarn> Dr_willis: Okay, thanks.
[05:11] <snake_> hitmanWilly: you mean i have to write it manually
[05:11] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Remember that the "0x" is all important, it indicates that the following number is base 16
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> snake_, in knetwork manager select connect to other wireless network, then input the name
[05:11] <DaSkreech> jarn: Nero can
[05:12] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Sorry, I get more pedantic when I get bored
[05:12] <Minataku> XD
[05:12] <jarn> DaSkreech: Nero costs money though, no?
[05:12] <snake_> hitmanWilly: that is the problem that i do not have that option in knetwork manager
[05:12] <DaSkreech> !webcam | khirr
[05:12] <ubotu> khirr: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:12] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  it looked more like a date to me then a #
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> snake_, right clicking the system tray icon doesn't bring it up?
[05:12] <Minataku> Ah
[05:12] <Minataku> Nah, it was a hex number
[05:13] <Minataku> But you have a point looking at it again
[05:13] <Minataku> XD
[05:13] <snake_> hitmanWilly: when i right click i get manual configuration , options help and quit
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> snake_, ok, hold on a minute...
[05:14] <DaSkreech> jarn: most things on Windows do
[05:14] <jarn> DaSkreech: Indeed. But I was looking for free stuff. Hopefully k3b will meet my needs.
[05:15] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Most of those ATA/SCSI errors are crazy long and barely well-defined
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> snake_, ok, go into system settings->Network settings
[05:16] <Minataku> Like "{ DriveReady SeekComplete Error }"
[05:16] <Minataku> What is that supposed to mean, anyway?
[05:16] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  heh - isent that one of the reasons for the Ata system rewriteing?
[05:16] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Eh... I don't like how ATA is gonna be sdx now
[05:16] <Dr_willis> "Answer hazy - ask again later"
[05:16] <Minataku> That's gonna screw up so many fstabs
[05:16] <DaSkreech> jarn: well It should run on Windows come KDE4 :)
[05:16] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  yep.. but thats psrt of the reason they are using UUID stuff now.
[05:17] <DaSkreech> k3b has only failed one test for me so far
[05:17] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I don't like that crap, either
[05:17] <snake_> hitmanWilly: ok i'm there
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> snake_, does eth1 show up in the box?
[05:17] <DaSkreech> and I can't afford the money to make it fail my other test :(
[05:17] <Minataku> Since if there's ever a need to remake the UUID or it's lost somehow
[05:17] <Minataku> You're also screwed
[05:17] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  of course i ALMOST installed to the wrong Drive because of the sda/hda conversion. I had sata and ide drives.. lucnly i noticed it was about to install to my windows drive. and stopped it :)
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> snake_, under network interfaces?
[05:17] <jarn> DaSkreech: I look forward to that day so much.
[05:17] <snake_> yes
[05:17] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Why?
[05:17] <Minataku> XD
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> snake_, does it show as enabled?
[05:18] <jarn> DaSkreech: There is SO much KDE software that I love that I would love to run in Windows.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  remake the uuid? you can set the uuid as ya want i belive.
[05:18] <snake_> hitmanWilly: both of them
[05:18] <snake_> hitmanWilly: eth0 and eth1
[05:18] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Right, but the second you do your fstab is invalid
[05:18] <Dr_willis> i tend to set up the fstab to moujnt based on disk LABEL :) More readable
[05:18] <Minataku> I like setting it up to mount based on device
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> snake_, ok, you may need to set up manual configuration and have it save the settings then
[05:18] <Dr_willis> i also like to set the UUID to be stuff like 0000-0000-000001 :)
[05:18] <Minataku> I like the more traditional ways
[05:18] <snake_> hitmanWilly: that is what i have done
[05:18] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Hardly unique ;3
[05:18] <jarn> DaSkreech: Now if only it worked the other way. There is also SO much Windows software that I love that I would love to run in Linux (I'm looking at you, EAC and mp3tag!).
[05:19] <Dr_willis> Flexablity vs readablity.
[05:19] <snake_> hitmanWilly: i have the dns and all the stuff configured
[05:19] <snake_> all of them
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> snake_, is it set up for dhcp or static?
[05:20] <snake_> static
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> snake_, ok, try changing it to dhcp...see if that helps
[05:20] <Minataku> Personally, I _hate_ the porting-to-Windows thing
[05:20] <Minataku> It just gives people less reason to use Linux
[05:21] <Minataku> It basically screws up any progress we've made
[05:21] <Minataku> I say screw 'em, they wanna use it, they can switch
[05:21] <kloplop> A simple question, how do I intall the java run time environment? where It will also work in FireFox or the default browser?
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, the double edged sword of open source :P
[05:21] <Minataku> Not very nice, but damnit, a step backwards is a bad step
[05:21] <kloplop> Adept keeps freezing on me for installing J2RE
[05:22] <Dr_willis> kloplop,  what verison of kubuntu  ya using?
[05:22] <Minataku> kloplop: You make it sound like it's punishing you
[05:22] <Minataku> XD
[05:22] <kloplop> 7.10 I got it to work on 6.10 but I don't remember how
[05:22] <Dr_willis> there was an old issue where ya had to install it from the console/apt-get with some older kubuntus
[05:22] <snake_> hitmanWilly: thanx it works but isnt it better with static
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> snake_, also, is it set to activate on startup?
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> snake_, not really, at least not for regular desktop/laptop use
[05:23] <snake_> hitmanWilly: ok thanx
[05:23] <khirr> is there some wasyway to configure one via integrate card?
[05:23] <kloplop> what is the code in the consol for installing, like apt -get or whatever? I am just getting into linux.
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> snake_, also, if the router is set up to use dhcp, you kinda have to on the computer end
[05:26] <Dr_willis> !iso
[05:26] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, you should tell the guys over on ##linux that you're using ubotu to answer their questions :P
[05:27] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  :)
[05:27] <Dr_willis> half the time i forget and type !iso there.. or similer
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, what's worse is when you try to pipe it to someone in another channel :P
[05:30] <NickPresta> kloplop, type in "man apt-get" and "man aptitude" for ways of installing via CLI
[05:31] <Dr_willis> !java
[05:31] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:31] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[05:31] <Dr_willis> is what i normally use
[05:32] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Well, whenever you're ready to send something out, ask me for the address to send to
[05:32] <Minataku> Or get it now, write it down and lose it like I would
[05:32] <Minataku> XD
[05:32] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  sure PM it to me. i will save it to a File.
[05:33] <DaSkreech> pm | echo > File
[05:35] <Minataku> They need to make that air pocket packing material, but fill it with helium
[05:35] <Minataku> I wonder if that would work
[05:35] <Minataku> XD
[05:35] <Minataku> Maybe shave a gram or two off the package weight X3
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, plus if the delivery guy was talking with a really high pitched voice, you'd know if he opened it :)
[05:36] <Minataku> Heehee
[05:36] <Minataku> If it was UPS it wouldn't matter, it'd still be smashed
[05:45] <sebastianhooker> whats up yall?
[05:45] <sebastianhooker> wow, for IRC, no one talks on kubuntu
[05:49] <Minataku> Way to wait 25 seconds before saying nobody was around
[05:49] <Minataku> Sorry, that was mean
[05:49] <Minataku> I just hate when people do that
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> lol
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> sorry
[05:50] <Minataku> At least you didn't quit XD
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> but seriously, look how many people are here
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> and not talkng...
[05:50] <Minataku> Usually they'll come in, wait literally 10 seconds then say "I'll come back when someone is alive"
[05:50] <Minataku> XD
[05:50] <Minataku> It's just a lull
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> ah
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> so how do u guys like ubuntu?
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> (need a topic)
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> normally this is one of the busier channels
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> that's how i thought it would b
[05:50] <sebastianhooker> e
[05:51] <sebastianhooker> so i came here XD
[05:51] <Minataku> Heehee
[05:51] <Minataku> I don't even use Ubuntu
[05:51] <sebastianhooker> hahaha
[05:51] <sebastianhooker> what r u using?
[05:51] <Minataku> I use Gentoo on modern systems and Debian on legacy systems
[05:51] <sebastianhooker> windows hahaha
[05:52] <sebastianhooker> i used to use redhat
[05:52] <sebastianhooker> anyone been to bash.org?
[05:52] <Minataku> Many times
[05:52] <sebastianhooker> .yeah
[05:52] <sebastianhooker> i came here thinking it would be amazing like that
[05:52] <sebastianhooker> turns out all we talk about is linux
[05:52] <sebastianhooker> not girls and quotes, just ubuntu and debian
[05:52] <sebastianhooker> D:
[05:53] <DaSkreech> !O-t
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about o-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <DaSkreech> ;-)
[05:53] <sebastianhooker> ;-)
[05:53] <sebastianhooker> lol
[05:53] <sebastianhooker> so, uh, yeah, how old are y'all?
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> wow, on a linux channel we talk about...linux
[05:53] <sebastianhooker> why the nipple?
[05:53] <sebastianhooker> hitmanWilly, who let you talk?
[05:53] <Minataku> sebastianhooker: I felt the kidney would have been too predictable
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> the ops apparently...
[05:54] <sebastianhooker> hm
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Plus I sold those
[05:54] <Minataku> Plus I don't want to injure him
[05:54] <sebastianhooker> well at least now i know y'all are under 20
[05:54] <Minataku> I'm 22
[05:54] <sebastianhooker> well shit.
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> 25
[05:54] <Minataku> !language
[05:54] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:54] <sebastianhooker> well then
[05:54] <sebastianhooker> i'm sorry..
[05:54] <Minataku> s'ok
[05:55] <sebastianhooker> did you know helicopters are souls of fallen tanks?
[05:55] <sebastianhooker> (bash.org)
[05:55] <Minataku> <.<
[05:55] <Dodger73> yello... anyone know how to get a pci-express ati card to run?
[05:55] <sebastianhooker> uh
[05:55] <Dodger73> yeah i know, loaded question
[05:55] <sebastianhooker> not to run
[05:55] <Minataku> Dodger73: Add legs
[05:55] <DaSkreech> plus shinobi for the PS2
[05:55] <sebastianhooker> i can get the fan to turn on
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> !ati
[05:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:55] <DaSkreech> Dodger73: start with mornign jogs and work up from there
[05:56] <sebastianhooker> hey, uhh, geeky question here
[05:56] <Minataku> PCIe and ATI... what a bastardy combinatio
[05:56] <sebastianhooker> can i get WoW on ubuntu?
[05:56] <Minataku> n
[05:56] <DaSkreech> !wow | sebastianhooker
[05:56] <ubotu> sebastianhooker: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[05:56] <Dr_willis> ive herad that WoW can run with Cedega and Wine.
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> sebastianhooker, yeah, runs pretty well under wine/cedega from what i understand
[05:56] <sebastianhooker> yeah, but how do i get Wine to install?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> !wine
[05:57] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> >hic<
[05:57] <sebastianhooker> i can't stand "shell commands" i live far from the ocean
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> sebastianhooker, apt-get install wine
[05:57] <sebastianhooker> i'll install wine
[05:57] <sebastianhooker> do you have wow hitman?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:57] <sebastianhooker> :D
[05:57] <sebastianhooker> *gets out his shotgun to shoot a prarie-dog pummler with
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> sebastianhooker, nope
[05:58] <DaSkreech> sebastianhooker: get more wine and you won't care (or know) where you are
[05:58] <sebastianhooker> could anyone link me to a wine download site?
[05:58] <sebastianhooker> DaSkreech: wine takes too long, hard liquor por favor
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> sebastianhooker, its in the ubuntu repos, you just need to use the package manager to get it
[05:59] <sebastianhooker> aight
[06:01] <sebastianhooker> hey
[06:01] <sebastianhooker> uhh
[06:01] <sebastianhooker> password is needed on terminal
[06:01] <sebastianhooker> for a wine download
[06:01] <DaSkreech> it's your password
[06:01] <sebastianhooker> any ideas?
[06:01] <sebastianhooker> ok
[06:01] <DaSkreech> the oneyou used to login
[06:01] <sebastianhooker> it said OK
[06:02] <DaSkreech> It's lying to you
[06:02] <DaSkreech> slap it around a bit
[06:02] <Jucato> anyone familiar with Bluetooth DUN? kinda need help getting IRC to work :(
[06:02] <Jucato> Tm_T: help!!!!! :(
[06:05] <CPrgmSwR2> How do I configure apt-get to include all repositories
[06:06] <NickPresta> CPrgmSwR2, I'm not sure I understand your question. Can you explain a little more, please?
[06:06] <Minataku> Jucato... ASKING for help instead of rendering it :O
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Jucato: what DUN?
[06:06] <DaSkreech>  you are using a cellphone for a modem?
[06:06] <Minataku> Hath hell frozen over? :O
[06:06] <Minataku> XD
[06:06] <jarn> Is there any way to set up shortcuts for things that are not in KMenu?
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Minataku: I'll remember to laugh at you as well :)
[06:07] <Jucato> yes I know.. how so unlikely of me :(
[06:07] <Minataku> Haha
[06:07] <Jucato> DaSkreech: yes. Dial Up Networking
[06:07] <NickPresta> jarn, right click on a menu entry and click on "Edit Menu", then add entries.
[06:07] <Minataku> I'm just playin' and he knows it
[06:07] <jarn> NickPresta: So, essentially, no.
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Jucato: is it paired?
[06:07] <Minataku> We all need help now and again :3
[06:07] <Jucato> DaSkreech: everything is working *except* IRC :(
[06:07] <alberto> hey
[06:07] <alberto> q tal?
[06:07] <NickPresta> jarn, yes, you can setup "shortcuts". What exactly did you want to accomplish?
[06:07] <Jucato> just apt-get'ed irssi in fact :)
[06:07] <CPrgmSwR2> I just got through installing kubuntu form the cd
[06:07] <alberto> alguien sabe como es el servidor hispaon?
[06:07] <DaSkreech> !es | alberto
[06:07] <ubotu> alberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:07] <CPrgmSwR2> but there is a lot of packages missing for apt-get
[06:08] <DaSkreech> !repos | CPrgmSwR2
[06:08] <ubotu> CPrgmSwR2: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:08] <Jucato> CPrgmSwR2: you need to enable some of there other repositories
[06:08] <NickPresta> CPrgmSwR2, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[06:08] <jarn> NickPresta: I said I want to do it for things that aren't in the menu. You told me that to do it I needed to add it to the menu. Isn't that a no?
[06:09] <DaSkreech> jarn: what are you asking?
[06:09] <NickPresta> jarn, yes you can add things which are not currently present in KMenu. You need to manually add them.
[06:09] <CPrgmSwR2> I can't seem to add repositories
[06:09] <jarn> NickPresta: But I don't want to add them to the menu. I want to set up shortcuts for things that aren't in the menu and that I don't want to be in the menu.
[06:09] <sebastianhooker> i'm installing wine all by myself :D
[06:09] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: What do you mean?
[06:09] <CPrgmSwR2> I have no option to manage apt-get
[06:10] <DaSkreech> jarn: yes you can
[06:10] <NickPresta> jarn: Ah, you should've said you don't want them in the menu (but want something like desktop shortcuts). Yes you can
[06:10] <CPrgmSwR2> Adept -> Manage Repositories
[06:10] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: press alt+space -> adept -> Enter
[06:10] <CPrgmSwR2> I don't have this option in the menu
[06:10] <Minataku> Jucato: Sorry, you know I'm just playing around, right? :3
[06:10] <NickPresta> jarn, right click on your desktop and then go to New > Add Link to Application.
[06:10] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: and close that adept
[06:10] <Jucato> Minataku: yep :P
[06:10] <Minataku> k ^^
[06:10] <Dr_willis> CPrgmSwR2,  did it ask for your sudo password when it started?
[06:11] <CPrgmSwR2> yes
[06:11] <jarn> NickPresta: Hrm, I should have been more clear. I meant hotkey shortcuts.
[06:11] <CPrgmSwR2> thats different
[06:11] <Minataku> Wouldn't using a cellphone for DUN be insanely expensive?
[06:11] <jarn> NickPresta: As in pressing a combination of buttons and a program opens. Sorry about that. :/
[06:11] <sebastianhooker> hey uhh where does wine come up after you install it?
[06:11] <Jucato> Minataku: not much difference as going to a cyber cafe over here. besides I'm desperate :)
[06:11] <alberto> hola alguienm dice cual es 3l servidor delcanal corua?
[06:12] <alberto> por ejempl irc ispano?
[06:12] <Minataku> Jucato: Heehee
[06:12] <Jucato> no wireless on this thing (broken), and leaving in a couple of hours
[06:12] <soulrider> !es  alberto
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es  alberto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <soulrider> !es | alberto
[06:12] <ubotu> alberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:12] <soulrider> jucato, i finally find you here!
[06:12] <sebastianhooker> So where does wine come up after i install it?
[06:12] <alberto> suldiers
[06:12] <Jucato> hi soulrider
[06:12] <soulrider> i sa win your blog you had some trouble with recursion, i can explain a bit if you want
[06:12] <alberto> tu lo conoces?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> !es | alberto
[06:13] <ubotu> alberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:13] <Minataku> alberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:13] <soulrider> alberto: para espa~nol entra a #kubuntu-es y a #ubuntu-es
[06:13] <Minataku> JIC he has the bot ignored or something
[06:14] <NickPresta> jarn, Oh! Yes, you should've been more clear :P In KControl (or System Settings), you should navigate to Accessibility > Input Actions. There you can create custom actions that do tons of stuff
[06:14] <ShiftedBeef> sebastian, not sure, but you can use wine on something by right clicking on it if it doesn't automatically, and you can also run winecfg if you want to config it.
[06:14] <Jucato> hmph brb. :)
[06:14] <Minataku> Bienvenidos a Homestarrunner.com! Conoces a Miguel? Si, somos buenos amigos... <offscreen: "English!>
[06:14] <Minataku> XD
[06:14] <Minataku> Ack, unterminated quotes
[06:14] <jarn> NickPresta: Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Minataku: ummm No! What?
[06:15] <rodrigo> hey daskreech
[06:15] <NickPresta> jarn, no problem. Shortcuts can mean many things so it was bound to be misunderstood by someone, I suppose.
[06:15] <sebastianhooker> WHY DIDNT WINE INSTALL?
[06:15] <rodrigo> what's up!
[06:15] <Minataku> DaSkreech: Heehee, quote from HSR
[06:15] <soulrider> sebastianhooker: its installed
[06:15] <Minataku> sebastianhooker: Type "wine" into a console
[06:15] <CPrgmSwR2> This is fun
[06:15] <sebastianhooker> ok
[06:15] <soulrider> just type wine <path to an exe file>
[06:15] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: hello :)
[06:15] <rodrigo> Daskreech
[06:15] <Minataku> It's a wrapper system
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Minataku: Do you have the DNA evidence ?
[06:16] <Minataku> Not a standalone program
[06:16] <DaSkreech> rodrigo
[06:16] <sebastianhooker> ohhh
[06:16] <rodrigo> <DaSkreech haha
[06:16] <sebastianhooker> duh
[06:16] <sebastianhooker> THANKS!
[06:16] <Minataku> DaSkreech: Didn't you hear? That was solved. :D
[06:16] <Minataku> sebastianhooker: np
[06:16] <Minataku> !caps
[06:16] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:16] <sebastianhooker> i owe someone
[06:16] <sebastianhooker> hey minataku, i o u
[06:16] <Minataku> sebastianhooker: You owe ME.
[06:16] <rodrigo> Im thinking very serous pasting an esay about linux
[06:16] <Minataku> The price: Nothing.
[06:16] <Minataku> Enjoy.
[06:16] <rodrigo> linux for beginers
[06:16] <Minataku> ^^
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Minataku: what> I missed that! When?
[06:16] <ShiftedBeef> What I said should have worked, but oh well.
[06:16] <Minataku> DaSkreech: It was a toon
[06:16] <rodrigo> I studies journalism
[06:17] <rodrigo> so this may help to Linux community
[06:17] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: that would be wonderful
[06:17] <Minataku> They wrapped up the whole "DNA Evidence" thing
[06:17] <jarn> NickPresta: I was in Keyboard Shortcuts rather than Input Actions, and from Keyboard Shortcuts it appears that you can only set up shortcuts for things in KMenu.
[06:17] <alberto> alguien m dice cual es el servidor hispano?
[06:17] <sebastianhooker> oh snap i love you guys
[06:17] <sebastianhooker> so much
[06:17] <Minataku> Go to the Toons page
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Minataku: link@!
[06:17] <Minataku> alberto: #kubuntu-es
[06:17] <ShiftedBeef> Awwww. :)
[06:17] <Minataku> !es | alberto
[06:17] <ubotu> alberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:17] <rodrigo> Daskreech: do you feel in the mood of trying to install again cinellera?
[06:17] <Minataku> !pr | alberto
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <Minataku> Er
[06:17] <Minataku> !br | alberto
[06:17] <ubotu> alberto: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:17] <Minataku> In case he needs Portugeuese
[06:17] <NickPresta> jarn, Yes, in Keyboard Shortcuts, you can only setup hotkeys for specific things. In Input Actions, you can do it for anything (applications, keyboard functions, etc)
[06:17] <rodrigo> daskrecch: we make a lot of work yesterday
[06:17] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: we didn't do it the last time?
[06:18] <DaSkreech> open adept and install cinelerra
[06:18] <DaSkreech> I think that should work
[06:18] <rodrigo> daskreech ok let me try it
[06:18] <jarn> NickPresta: Hrm, I can't get it to work, though. I did "New Action", set "Action Type" to "Keyboard Shortcut -> Command/URL (simple)", set the Keyboard Shortcut to "Win + E" and set the command to "/usr/bin/konqueror /home/jarn" and clicked "Apple". However, when I press those keys, nothing happens. :(
[06:19] <rodrigo> daskreech: ok Im in adept manager I'll paste the program name (cinellera)
[06:19] <DaSkreech> in the search
[06:19] <Minataku> wb, Jucato
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :-)
[06:20] <sebastianhooker> alright, next question
[06:20] <DaSkreech>  I just won the 10 Million dollar lotto for buying MS office
[06:20] <sebastianhooker> how can i install my graphics card driver?
[06:20] <ShiftedBeef> Yeah no results here either.
[06:20] <Minataku> !drivers
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <Minataku> !ati
[06:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:20] <Minataku> There ya go
[06:20] <DaSkreech> and the last MS office I bought didn't even have years in the title
[06:20] <ShiftedBeef> Odd that it isn't installed already.
[06:20] <rodrigo> Daskreech: sorry firend it doesn't appear on the menu
[06:21] <soulrider> DaSkreech: lol
[06:21] <NickPresta> jarn, I just did what you wanted (control+alt+H brings me to my /home) by selecting the action type of Keyboard Shortcut -> Command/URL (simple) and the action to be "konqueror ~/"
[06:21] <DaSkreech> ShiftedBeef: what isn't?
[06:21] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: press Fetch updates
[06:21] <ShiftedBeef> Vid card drivers.
[06:21] <soulrider> DaSkreech: i didnt know the staandard one costed $400 its friggin insane
[06:21] <NickPresta> jarn, make sure you Apply the new action before you try it
[06:21] <ShiftedBeef> Mine are preinstalled.
[06:21] <soulrider> just for excel word powerpoint and outlook
[06:21] <sebastianhooker> yeah i think it's nvidia
[06:21] <Minataku> I use OpenOffice.org
[06:21] <DaSkreech> ShiftedBeef: they aren't free
[06:21] <soulrider> its just retarded!
[06:21] <Minataku> Because it's better and cheaper.
[06:22] <ShiftedBeef> Ok you lost me.
[06:22] <rodrigo> daskreech done it and nothing
[06:22] <DaSkreech> Minataku: I'd love to see you back up the better :0
[06:22] <jarn> NickPresta: I clicked "Apply". I changed it to "konqueror ~/" and it still doesn't work... I'll try ctrl+alt+h, maybe it doesn
[06:22] <DaSkreech> unless you are a journalist
[06:22] <jarn> NickPresta: doesn't like the Windows eky.
[06:22] <ShiftedBeef> I have full functionality of my vid card.
[06:22] <DaSkreech> then it should be better
[06:22] <DaSkreech>  rodrigo can you pastebin the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:23] <NickPresta> jarn, do you have Beryl or Compiz installed?
[06:23] <jarn> NickPresta: Nope.
[06:23] <ShiftedBeef> If my vid card drivers aren't free, well I lost functionality of something I suppose.
[06:23] <jarn> NickPresta: Hrm, and that didn't work either, even when I set it to the same things you had.
[06:23] <rodrigo> pastebin?? file/ryv/apt/sources .list?
[06:23] <jarn> NickPresta: Just nothing happens for me. :(
[06:23] <NickPresta> jarn, okay, because Win+H makes the window expand to full width. Just making sure. Let me switch to KWin and see what happens
[06:23] <DaSkreech> !paste | rodrigo
[06:23] <ubotu> rodrigo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:23] <rodrigo> daskreech Im just beginning to speak linux
[06:24] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: and it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:24] <jarn> NickPresta: Okay. Thanks for helping me with this. :)
[06:25] <rodrigo> daskreech ok let me take a look
[06:25] <NickPresta> jarn, I just tried it in KWin and Win+H works (brings up Konqueror at ~/).
[06:25] <NickPresta> jarn, could it be possible that you have this action disabled (on the General tab)?
[06:25] <jarn> NickPresta: That was the first thing I checked and it's not disabled.
[06:26] <jarn> NickPresta: That is to say, the Disable box is unchecked.
[06:26] <rodrigo> ok daskreech I got the pastebin thing but not too much the last thing  /etc/apt/sources.list is a command?
[06:26] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: it's a file
[06:26] <NickPresta> jarn, where did you create this action? Is it possible that the group you created it in is disabled?
[06:27] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: you can open it in any editor
[06:27] <jarn> NickPresta: I didn't put it in a group. I also checked the Global settings to make sure everything wasn't disabled there.
[06:27] <sebastianhooker> brb
[06:27] <sebastianhooker> gotta restart
[06:27] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: alt+F2 -> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:27] <rodrigo> so I paste it in the pastebin?
[06:28] <rodrigo> daskreech wow It open the soruces.list
[06:29] <rodrigo> do you want me to copy it in pastebin?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Yes :)
[06:29] <Billiard> hey if i install something from source, how would i ever uninstall it?
[06:29] <rodrigo> all of it?
[06:29] <NickPresta> jarn, I just put the action outside of a group (no group) and tried it. It still works for me.
[06:29] <soulrider> Billiard: you gotta make a deb package
[06:29] <Ryiel> Ubuntu is a great distro. Even the dev snapshout pre alpha release is stable enough as long as you don't try to do something with it :D
[06:29] <rodrigo> done
[06:29] <ShiftedBeef> Allright, can anyone point me somewhere where I can get help running wine on 64 bit Kubuntu 7.04?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: yes pleease
[06:29] <Billiard> soulrider alright
[06:29] <ShiftedBeef> Sorry WoW on Wine.
[06:29] <rodrigo> daskreech: done, should I push paste?
[06:30] <ShiftedBeef> The rest was correct. :)
[06:30] <Billiard> soulrider what should i use to make a deb
[06:30] <willy-boy> hello all
[06:30] <jarn> NickPresta: Hrm... want me to upload screenshots? Maybe I'm missing something obvious.
[06:30] <rodrigo> daskreech: what should y select in the sintax box?
[06:30] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: yes and paste teh URL that you get here
[06:30] <jarn> NickPresta: Then I can show you how I have it set up.
[06:30] <willy-boy> my kubuntu cds has arrived
[06:31] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: leave that alone
[06:31] <soulrider> Billiard: install build-essential and checkinstall
[06:31] <DaSkreech> willy-boy: Yay!
[06:31] <soulrider> basically you do ./configure
[06:31] <soulrider> make
[06:31] <soulrider> and then checkinstall
[06:31] <soulrider> !compiling
[06:31] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:31] <NickPresta> jarn, sure. You may want to whisper me though to send all of them. :)
[06:31] <ShiftedBeef> Allright, can anyone point me somewhere where I can get help running WoW on Wine on 64 bit Kubuntu 7.04? There, that is the correct question.
[06:31] <rodrigo> daskreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24945/
[06:31] <jarn> NickPresta: Will do.
[06:31] <willy-boy> hau daskreech
[06:31] <timd> need some help...
[06:31] <willy-boy> i'm installed now
[06:32] <timd> No plugin found to handle this resource (dvd:///dev/hdc)
[06:32] <willy-boy> installing ...
[06:32] <rodrigo> daskreech: by the way: you work for kubuntu or this is voluntary or how does this work
[06:32] <timd> i JUST installed kubuntu FF
[06:32] <ShiftedBeef> I got the Wine part done. Got Diablo 2 working. Cinch.
[06:32] <rodrigo> any way is great having help here!
[06:32] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: We bill you at the end of the month
[06:32] <rodrigo> ouh"
[06:32] <rodrigo> !
[06:32] <jarn> NickPresta: Hrm... I think something more is going on.
[06:32] <rodrigo> I can pay you with draws"
[06:33] <sebastianhooker_> miss me?
[06:33] <rodrigo> !
[06:33] <sstchur_> how do I install themes in kubuntu?  I can't find the option like there is with a traditional kde install
[06:33] <rodrigo> Im having a look of blender
[06:33] <jarn> NickPresta: For some reason the PrtScrn hotkey isn't working either.
[06:33] <rodrigo> nise program
[06:33] <DaSkreech> !dvd | timd
[06:33] <ubotu> timd: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:33] <willy-boy> rodrigo ...  work on ubuntu ?
[06:33] <rodrigo> but still, I believe the programs in linux are very unfriendly
[06:33] <jarn> NickPresta: And I didn't set that up and I know it worked earlier today.
[06:33] <NickPresta> jarn, do you have the hotkey daemon disabled or shut down?
[06:33] <timd> ty
[06:33] <jarn> NickPresta: I don't, I checked when I noticed that.
[06:33] <jarn> NickPresta: Should I try restarting it?
[06:34] <rodrigo> but you can't get too exigent with free stuf lol
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Minataku: moment of your time
[06:34] <Minataku> What's up?
[06:34] <sebastianhooker_> i love the ubuntu philosophy
[06:34] <DaSkreech> can You check if you have cinelerra in your packages ?
[06:34] <Minataku> Sure
[06:34] <rodrigo> thanks minataku
[06:34] <rodrigo> don't have the pleasure
[06:35] <rodrigo> but thanks
[06:35] <Minataku> Yes
[06:35] <Dr_willis> $ apt-cache search cinelerra
[06:35] <Dr_willis> xmovie - a nice video player for uncompressed Quicktime, MPEG streams and more
[06:35] <jarn> NickPresta: I killed khotkeys and started it up again and PrtScrn still doesn't work.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> heh odd
[06:35] <Minataku> media-video/cinelerra-cvs
[06:35] <Dr_willis> !find  cinelerra
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Minataku: did you add that yourself?
[06:35] <ubotu> Package/file cinelerra does not exist in feisty
[06:35] <Minataku> Labelled as "Unofficial CVS version"
[06:35] <Minataku> DaSkreech: No
[06:35] <Minataku> Portage allows for CVS packages :3
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Minataku: right on gentoo :-P
[06:36] <jarn> NickPresta: I may just try rebooting when the CD that I'm burning finishes.
[06:36] <Minataku> It seems to be a snapshotted version, though
[06:36] <rodrigo> ok  now this is linux talking
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: So no?
[06:36] <Minataku> Since the version isn't 9999
[06:36] <jarn> NickPresta: Because I /know/ prtscrn worked earlier today.
[06:36] <NickPresta> jarn, Hmm. I dont know what to tell you aside from rebooting. Perhaps a google search (something like "hotkeys stopped working ubuntu") will yield some results.
[06:36] <jarn> NickPresta: Thanks, I'll do that.
[06:36] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  not in the repos it seems
[06:36] <Minataku> Typically a download-from-cvs package in Gentoo will have the version "9999"
[06:36] <jpmaiden> hola tengo una duda co kubuntu
[06:36] <Minataku> This one has a date, "20070122"
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: can you add this repo deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/feisty/cinelerra/athlonxp/ ./
[06:36] <rodrigo> hola mano
[06:36] <jpmaiden> haycalguien q hble espaol
[06:37] <Dr_willis> Cineralla i hear  is a rather Odd   program. ;
[06:37] <rodrigo> el que habla espaol
[06:37] <Minataku> !es | jpmaiden
[06:37] <ubotu> jpmaiden: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: see if it gets added after you add that
[06:37] <mark_> I'm interested in installing kde 3.5.6 for my edgy installation.  I have the repository entry but I need the key... any takes?
[06:37] <mark_> ~kde
[06:37] <mark_> !kde
[06:37] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: very but someone has a repo for it
[06:37] <Minataku> You could also just compile it from source
[06:37] <DaSkreech> mark_: where did you get the rep?
[06:37] <DaSkreech> repo?
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Minataku: really trying to avoid that
[06:38] <Dr_willis> apt-cache search cinelerra   cinelerra - An audio/video authoring tool
[06:38] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:38] <mark_> DaSkreech: don't recall.. had from an earlier installation and wound up having to reinstall.  Have the repo but not the key
[06:38] <rodrigo> guys any one of you can tell me how to check the chanels?
[06:38] <Minataku> DaSkreech: Why?
[06:38] <rodrigo> hat irc?
[06:38] <jarn> NickPresta: The first two pages have nothing about it and I would expect the responses to get even less helpful from there, so that would appear to be a no go.
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: so it worked?
[06:38] <rodrigo> here at Irc?
[06:38] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: Check for what?
[06:38] <sebastianhooker_> wow, WoW is actually not too easy to install
[06:38] <Dr_willis> installiong now.. 33mb
[06:38] <sebastianhooker_> it keeps messing up :(
[06:38] <rodrigo> one guy enter of ubutu es
[06:38] <rodrigo> it means ubuntu in spanish
[06:39] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: yes
[06:39] <Minataku> ubuntu-es
[06:39] <Minataku> The names stay the same
[06:39] <rodrigo> is there any wey you can check all the chanels?
[06:39] <mark_> sebastianhooker_: I disagree... with wine wow is a snap
[06:39] <Minataku> The distro name doesn't translate between languages
[06:39] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: type /list
[06:39] <rodrigo> ok let me try it
[06:39] <rodrigo> Im right here for the cinellera thing
[06:39] <rodrigo> and thanks for your support guys
[06:40] <rodrigo> rodrigo: type /list
[06:40] <NickPresta> jarn, you're right. You might want to try restarting X before you reboot. If that doesn't work, then reboot. If that still doesnt fix anything, I would file a bug report or wait for someone more knowledgeable to come along and help :P
[06:40] <Minataku> "/list" alone hasn't quite worked right in my experience for at least a year or two
[06:40] <CPrgmSwR2> What is also amazing is how fast kubuntu is
[06:40] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: can you hit fetch updates again and search for lerra
[06:40] <jarn> NickPresta: Okay, thanks for all your help. :)
[06:40] <sebastianhooker_> mark_: why do i keep getting errors?
[06:40] <NickPresta> jarn, no problem. I hope you find a fix.
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Minataku: Which client
[06:40] <timd> Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)
[06:41] <jarn> NickPresta: Me too - I couldn't live without my hotkeys! (/me is a serial optimizer.)
[06:41] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: We are sorry we are trying to fix that
[06:41] <mark_> sebastianhooker_: I suppose it was depend upon the errors you are getting as to why.  I've been running WoW with wine since 0.9.23...
[06:41] <sebastianhooker_> how do i make my font show up red?
[06:41] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: it'll soon be as fast as vista we promise!
[06:41] <CPrgmSwR2> Oh Darn
[06:41] <mark_> DaSkreech: so, no clue where i can find the kde repo key?
[06:41] <DaSkreech> timd: try installing vlc
[06:41] <sebastianhooker_> mark_: oh snap! that's a long time! but i'll tell you the error if another show's
[06:41] <sebastianhooker_> VLC?
[06:41] <CPrgmSwR2> Mabye I will just have to buy Vista after all
[06:42] <mark_> sebastianhooker_: ok
[06:42] <DaSkreech> mark_: did you answer my question ?
[06:42] <sebastianhooker_> i'm not going to lie, i pirated vista
[06:42] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: ha ha :)
[06:42] <rodrigo> in which menu should it appears on the multimedia or in wich one?
[06:42] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: You can actually tune it to be faster
[06:42] <jarn> sebastianhooker_: Uh oh! I'm going to tell daddy Gates on you!
[06:42] <jarn> NickPresta: Okay, I'll restart X now.
[06:42] <rodrigo> daskreech:  in which menu should it appears on the multimedia or in wich one?
[06:42] <Minataku> DaSkreech: XChat
[06:42] <mark_> DaSkreech: if your question was "where did I get the repo?" then yes.  I told you that I had it from an earlier install but did not save the key, and therefore have the path from my saved sources.list but no key
[06:43] <timd> DaSkreech: it might be easier...i just installed kubuntu like 10 mins ago and haven't use it before so maybe i need to chown the dvdrom?
[06:43] <timd> not sure though
[06:43] <sebastianhooker_> jarn: uh oh! i'm going to tell him he's so rich the $300 he coulda had he could shove up his anal sphinkter
[06:43] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: Hmm?
[06:43] <NickPresta> jarn, okay, good luck
[06:43] <CPrgmSwR2> Why did I waste my time with gentoo
[06:43] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: in adept?
[06:43] <sebastianhooker_> how do i become a registered user?
[06:43] <DaSkreech> mark_: look at the kubuntu.org webpage all the instructions (and keys) are there
[06:43] <DaSkreech> !register | sebastianhooker_
[06:43] <ubotu> sebastianhooker_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:44] <rodrigo> In adept?
[06:44] <rodrigo> daskreech: well I'm using adept manager, shall I try with adept installer?
[06:44] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: wait this wasn't in adept? :)
[06:44] <DaSkreech> no no
[06:44] <DaSkreech> you searched for lerra ?
[06:44] <rodrigo> in adept manager nop
[06:45] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  cinerella worked. Gave some  warning at the start..  but it ran.. well for the 2 min i played withit.
[06:45] <rodrigo> I mean jes
[06:45] <rodrigo> yes
[06:45] <rodrigo> douh!
[06:45] <DaSkreech> and it's not there?
[06:45] <rodrigo> I push fetch updates
[06:45] <rodrigo> let me try it again
[06:45] <mark_> DaSkreech: I'm sorry, I guess with a simple handle like mine it must be assumed I'm simple minded.  You see, I've been on the kubuntu.org site.  I've searched and found nothing specific to 3.5.6.  This is why I am asking here...
[06:45] <rodrigo> I'm using the word cinellera
[06:45] <rodrigo> world
[06:46] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: I thought so that's why I told you to use lerra :)
[06:46] <timd> how can i tell which dev is my dvdrom?
[06:46] <jarn> NickPresta: Wootness! After restarting X both prtscrn and my custom hotkey work!
[06:46] <jarn> NickPresta: Thanks a lot! :)
[06:46] <rodrigo> oooooooohhhhhhh
[06:46] <rodrigo> so just lerra?
[06:46] <NickPresta> jarn, No problem. Now enjoy your new found hotkey freedom :P
[06:46] <rodrigo> ok let me try
[06:46] <yurimxpxman> what functions should I use to read/write files with ncurses? The stdio functions won't work with it.
[06:47] <timd> Error reading NAV packet
[06:47] <DaSkreech> timd: normally it's /dev/dvd
[06:47] <rodrigo> daskreech: rodrigo making  hommer simpsons's douh! here
[06:47] <rodrigo> a ortographic problem
[06:47] <rodrigo> I paste the name correctly
[06:48] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:48] <rodrigo> now it works!! :-)
[06:48] <sebastianhooker_> wow, some kid just asked me if it was gross to wank of to his own sister, what a fuck up
[06:48] <sebastianhooker_> sorry about that language
[06:48] <rodrigo> well at least a los of things appear in the package
[06:48] <rodrigo> block
[06:48] <DaSkreech> !language | sebastianhooker_
[06:48] <ubotu> sebastianhooker_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:48] <rodrigo> daskreech all says uninstalled
[06:49] <rodrigo> daskreech what shall I must do now?
[06:49] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: look in your multimedia folder on the menu
[06:49] <rodrigo> request install?
[06:49] <jarn> NickPresta: Oh, I will. No doubt about it. >:)
[06:49] <DaSkreech> yes
[06:49] <rodrigo> ok now in the multimedia is not there
[06:49] <rodrigo> but i will install it now!!
[06:50] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: I thought you had installed it already :)
[06:50] <DaSkreech> 33 megs though
[06:50] <timd> this is frustrating
[06:50] <DaSkreech> timd: You are trying to watch a DVD ?
[06:51] <timd> yes
[06:51] <rodrigo> nope
[06:51] <rodrigo> daskreech
[06:51] <rodrigo> I'm in that
[06:51] <rodrigo> hey pal thanks
[06:51] <rodrigo> for your help
[06:51] <DaSkreech> timd: try and isntall VLC
[06:51] <timd> i did
[06:51] <DaSkreech> that's the pain free way
[06:51] <rodrigo> If you need a video edition
[06:51] <DaSkreech> !vlc
[06:51] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:51] <timd> i have vlc
[06:51] <DaSkreech> timd: it doesn't work?
[06:51] <rodrigo> daskreech I will be happy do it for you
[06:52] <rodrigo> in my brand new cindelerra
[06:52] <rodrigo> program
[06:52] <timd> it flashes like it's going to play and then does nothing
[06:52] <DaSkreech> rodrigo:  :-)
[06:52] <rodrigo> and I also have problem with arodur
[06:53] <rodrigo> another pain in the neck for the new linuxer
[06:53] <sebastianhooker_> linux is a gift from the gods
[06:53] <rodrigo> I have ardour installed now
[06:53] <timd> DaSkreech: it flashes like it's going to play and then does nothing
[06:53] <rodrigo> but it doesn't work for a Jack thing!
[06:53] <DaSkreech> timd: hmm i think it has a play DVD choice in the menu
[06:53] <DaSkreech> try that
[06:54] <DaSkreech> Anyone got DVDs to work?
[06:54] <rodrigo> daskreech: I have a doubt
[06:54] <rodrigo> any linux program work in different distributions?
[06:54] <rodrigo> I saw cool stuff for gnome
[06:54] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: that's the idea
[06:54] <rodrigo> but obviously I have kubuntu
[06:54] <DaSkreech> and gnome isn't a distrobution
[06:54] <DaSkreech> it's a desktop
[06:55] <rodrigo> oooooohhh
[06:55] <sebastianhooker_> lolol
[06:55] <rodrigo> well any way it will work with my kubuntu
[06:55] <rodrigo> ?
[06:55] <NickPresta> rodrigo, most, if not all, applications can be used on different distributions. For example, XChat on Kubuntu (using KDE) would work on Fedora (using KDE), etc.
[06:55] <rodrigo> the gnome programs?
[06:55] <ardchoille> !dvd
[06:55] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:55] <DaSkreech> mark_: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[06:56] <rodrigo> so what's the idea of so many distributions?
[06:56] <ardchoille> rodrigo: Freedom of choice :)
[06:56] <rodrigo> ok
[06:56] <rodrigo> it's like the same guy but with different cloths?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: each Should be focused on something different
[06:56] <sebastianhooker_> has anyone seen borat?
[06:56] <rodrigo> mmmm
[06:57] <rodrigo> wich one is the best for media artist?
[06:57] <timd> yea it starts to read the DVD then just stops
[06:57] <sebastianhooker_> is it supposed to b pixalated in the beggining?
[06:57] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: probably either ubuntustudio or ... shoot there was nother one hold on
[06:58] <analfabeta> hi! i do a update in my kubuntu, but not apear kde 3.5.7... what happining?
[06:59] <jack-> a) get a dictionary or 2, b) read the topic
[06:59] <Billiard> sebastianhooker_ no?
[07:00] <ardchoille> analfabeta: Once a version of kubuntu is released, you won't get new software in the repos. The only updates are bug fixes and security updates. Occasionally, third-party repos will have newer software, but the "official" repos won't.
[07:00] <intelikey> anyone "think" they know of a way for normal users to mount things without suid ?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> !kde
[07:00] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[07:00] <timd> anyone able to watch a DVD?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> analfabeta: look at kubuntu.org
[07:01] <intelikey> !dvd | timd
[07:01] <ubotu> timd: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:01] <rodrigo> daskreech: I push instal but I don't see any info about the uploading
[07:01] <rodrigo> is this ok?
[07:01] <rodrigo> how can I check that with adapt manager?
[07:01] <DaSkreech> intelikey: I think that doesn't work. VLC doesn't work
[07:01] <rodrigo> daskreech and why do you think cinellera doesn't appear in adapt installer?
[07:02] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: the apply changes ?
[07:02] <S4L2> Hello - I have been having some badass overheating problems with my laptop, what can I do for it without having to sacrifice half of my processing capabilities? And yes, I have a dual fan pad
[07:02] <khirr> Feisty Online (;)
[07:02] <Minataku> S4L2: The fan pad may be the issue
[07:02] <rodrigo> daskreech the status says not installed
[07:02] <Minataku> Tell me the cooling system of the laptop
[07:02] <Minataku> Mine here has a large fan on the bottom that sucks air in
[07:02] <rodrigo> but in requeste says install in green letters
[07:02] <intelikey> DaSkreech "TCG"  ?
[07:03] <Minataku> If I use a fan pad, it starves the cooling system for air and the laptop heats up
[07:03] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: is there a check mark button at the top? click it
[07:03] <DaSkreech> intelikey: tcg ?
[07:03] <S4L2> Minataku: mine has a small fan on bottom that sucks air in... my fan pad does go in the right direction, if that's what you're thinking - it blows up, not down
[07:03] <intelikey> trusted computing group    M$ poison for the pc
[07:03] <Minataku> S4L2: Turn the pad off and watch the temperature anyway
[07:04] <intelikey> fritz chips and all that rah
[07:04] <Minataku> Just to check that it's not still causing an issue
[07:04] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, apparently, v-chips aren't only for tvs anymore...
[07:04] <Minataku> Supplemental cooling on modern laptops tends to be an iffy area
[07:04] <DaSkreech> intelikey: how does that come in?
[07:05] <intelikey> hitmanWilly they "never were"
[07:05] <hitmanWilly> yeah...
[07:05] <Minataku> Usually they're designed to specific, exacting specifications and any help could end up being a hinderance, no matter how well meaning
[07:05] <khirr> what is the last kernel for kubuntu?
[07:05] <Minataku> As for the temperature, what exactly does it idle at?
[07:05] <rodrigo> daskreech:  ok I push aplly changes
[07:06] <rodrigo> and it's working now
[07:06] <Minataku> !info kernel
[07:06] <ubotu> Package kernel does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> khirr, 2.6.20-16 IIRC
[07:06] <rodrigo> wow this is great at last!
[07:06] <khirr> is stable?
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> khirr, yeah, pretty much...
[07:06] <DaSkreech> khirr: that's the idea
[07:06] <Minataku> Your mileage may vary
[07:06] <khirr> uhmm, what should i put in konsole (i'm noobie :D)
[07:07] <DaSkreech> uname -a
[07:07] <S4L2> Minataku: I just toggled it a few times while doing some resource intensive stuff, it certainly appears to be "cooling" it rather than starving it for air
[07:08] <Minataku> S4L2: Check that the laptop's fan is working
[07:08] <S4L2> it is
[07:08] <Minataku> Hm
[07:08] <Minataku> What CPU?
[07:08] <Minataku> I'm guessing Intel Prescott
[07:08] <S4L2> Sysinfo for 'redphoenix': Linux 2.6.20-16-386 running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)Mprocessor1.73GHz at 1729 MHz (3469 bogomips), , RAM: 947/995MB, 140 proc's, 12.3min up
[07:09] <Minataku> Definitely not a Prescott
[07:09] <Minataku> Or is it?
[07:09] <khirr> 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:09] <Minataku> Nope
[07:09] <Minataku> Prescott is a P4 core, not a PM
[07:09] <DaSkreech> Timd: What DVD ?
[07:09] <khirr> is that good?
[07:10] <Minataku> S4L2: I'd help you more, but I have to run to the bathroom on emergency terms
[07:10] <Minataku> Sorry >.<
[07:10] <timd> LOL does that make a differce? :)
[07:10] <S4L2> lol
[07:10] <timd> Tenacious D in the pick of destiny
[07:10] <S4L2> anyone else have any ideas?
[07:10] <DaSkreech> timd: no clue I've never watched a DVD
[07:10] <khirr> how can i update my kernel?
[07:11] <DaSkreech> but I guess one that you made at home would be different from a store bought one
[07:11] <S4L2> I've been using the Power Manager to cut my processing power in half when it gets hot just short of the point that it would shut down
[07:11] <hitmanWilly> khirr, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:11] <khirr> thanks :D
[07:11] <hitmanWilly> khirr, that will update your whole system
[07:11] <DaSkreech> khirr: Why do you need a new one?
[07:11] <khirr> if i put somedrivers in my actual kernel, and then i update it, will dun them?
[07:12] <khirr> uhmm, for drivers?
[07:12] <timd> Failed to find mountpoint for /dev/hdc     guess new errors mean it's making progress LOL
[07:12] <sebastianhooker_> khirr: i love noobies hahaha, you'll figure it out
[07:12] <khirr> T_T
[07:12] <DaSkreech> timd: A mount point?
[07:12] <timd> ?
[07:13] <timd> that's what the error says
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> khirr, any ones that you installed via kubuntu (ie through apt) will be pulled in as dependencies, any third party ones will have to be reinstalled
[07:13] <DaSkreech> timd: what is throwing it?
[07:13] <timd> what?
[07:14] <khirr> uhmm
[07:14] <DaSkreech> timd: What told you that error?
[07:14] <khirr> will i lose all
[07:14] <timd> image a guy that used nothing but windows from 3.0 and then one day....i dunno, today, decided he wants to try linux....
[07:14] <timd> <----me
[07:14] <timd> movie player
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> khirr, actually, you'll probably be fine
[07:15] <timd> The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?
[07:15] <khirr> uhmm, so, i'll try with my via drivers fisrt
[07:15] <sebastianhooker_> isn't it great to be able to say, screw windows, i'm using linux!
[07:15] <khirr> is so hard configure it ;S
[07:15] <DaSkreech> timd: that's what it says?
[07:15] <timd> now it does
[07:15] <DaSkreech> timd: you read !dvd ?
[07:15] <timd> i'm not seeing that in the adept manager
[07:15] <timd> yes
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> khirr, did you download those drivers off the web?
[07:16] <timd> and downloaded all the stuff
[07:16] <timd> oh i'm using totem
[07:16] <khirr> no
[07:16] <DaSkreech> sebastianhooker_: It's even better when you just say I'm using linux :)
[07:16] <khirr> there isnt for linux
[07:16] <sebastianhooker_> DaSkreech: touche!
[07:16] <DaSkreech> timd: did you try and add seveas's packages ?
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> khirr, it should be alright, kubuntu is pretty good for that stuff
[07:17] <timd> what's that? i just did as the instructions told me in !dvd
[07:17] <sebastianhooker_> DaSkreech: although, the first step to getting a girlfriend is uninstalling linux
[07:17] <khirr> but, when i install, i feel so slow my card
[07:17] <khirr> low frames per sescond
[07:17] <khirr> in mandriva was diferent
[07:17] <sebastianhooker_> DaSkreech: however, i can pull it off, i still get laid hahaha
[07:17] <khirr> but i like kubuntu XD
[07:18] <DaSkreech> !women
[07:18] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[07:18] <sebastianhooker_> so what are all the different types of ubuntu?
[07:18] <S4L2> Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu (or something like that)
[07:19] <S4L2> yeah, that was right
[07:19] <sebastianhooker_> whats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[07:19] <sebastianhooker_> and why don't schools use linux? it would make life so much easier
[07:19] <khirr> kde vs gnome xD
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> sebastianhooker_, fluxbuntu, ubuntu studio, ubuntu ce, ubuntu se, goglebuntu, etc.
[07:19] <sebastianhooker_> csills: way to use comcast :D only the best right?
[07:20] <sebastianhooker_> aren't there over 100 hacking programs on linux alone?
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> sebastianhooker_, define hacking program
[07:21] <sebastianhooker_> hitmanWilly: spamming, getting into files, the usual
[07:21] <DaSkreech> sebastianhooker_: what?
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Where are you getting this from?
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> sebastianhooker_, pretty much every one of those 'hacking tools' ie traceroute, ssh, telnet, wireshark, etc, have legitimate primary uses
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> sebastianhooker_, they just don't place artificial limits on what you can do with them
[07:22] <sebastianhooker_> hitmanWilly: whats one to get into someone's files? using an IP
[07:22] <sebastianhooker_> hitmanWilly: there's a guy named ethan i wanna freak out
[07:23] <hitmanWilly> sebastianhooker_, sorry...not gonna help with that...
[07:23] <sebastianhooker_> hitmanWilly: aww come on, what will it take?
[07:23] <DaSkreech> sebastianhooker_: hang around here for 4 or 5 more years and it'll come naturally :)
[07:24] <DaSkreech> sebastianhooker_: a t lot more than you know now :)
[07:24] <wolferine> how do you setup sshd initially?
[07:24] <sebastianhooker_> DaSkreech: u should help me now lol
[07:24] <wolferine> where are the config files?
[07:25] <Lynoure> wolferine: for what?
[07:25] <soulrider> sebastianhooker_: no one here will help you with somethign like that
[07:25] <soulrider> its unethical
[07:25] <soulrider> and it does against the code of conduct
[07:25] <sebastianhooker_> well true
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, probably /etc/conf.d/
[07:25] <sebastianhooker_> i'm installing world of warcraft, hacking is not my lol
[07:25] <DaSkreech> !coc | sebastianhooker_
[07:25] <ubotu> sebastianhooker_: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:26] <DaSkreech> wolferine: to do what?
[07:27] <wolferine> nm
[07:29] <NicObrain> guten morgen @ll
[07:30] <DaSkreech> guten
[07:30] <NicObrain> is hier wer der mir eventuell mit meinen nvidia problem helfen knnte??
[07:30] <hitmanWilly> !de | NicObrain
[07:30] <ubotu> NicObrain: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:31] <NicObrain> ok, danke
[07:37] <greg_g> ok, I have been having this problem lately. After a while of computer uptime (probably 1 day or so) certain apps won't load (in KDE) but after I do a retart of X then they work again.
[07:37] <sebastianhooker_> hey
[07:37] <sebastianhooker_> i want to do some SMB sharing through windows
[07:38] <sebastianhooker_> how do I log onto my linux computer through my windows computer?
[07:38] <greg_g> Firefox is the main one, and then most of the gnome apps (yes, kubuntu-desktop installed with ubuntu-desktop)
[07:38] <sebastianhooker_> the dialog screen comes up, but then my username and pass don't work
[07:40] <khirr> where can i download amsn 0.97 rc1 for kubuntu?
[07:46] <DaSkreech> greg_g: open them in the console
[07:46] <DaSkreech> !info amsn
[07:46] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2488 kB, installed size 9108 kB
[07:47] <DaSkreech> !info amsn gutsy
[07:47] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-2build1 (gutsy), package size 2456 kB, installed size 8944 kB
[07:50] <khirr> someone of u have the 0.97 rc1 in .deb for ubuntu?
[07:51] <DaSkreech> khirr: Nope ask a search engine :)
[07:51] <niko> salve a tutti
[07:51] <niko> hi to all!
[07:52] <khirr> aer
[07:52] <khirr> !amsn
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <niko> italian?
[07:52] <niko> khirr.....
[07:52] <khirr> ?
[07:52] <niko> do u use kubuntu?
[07:52] <khirr> yes
[07:52] <niko> well
[07:52] <niko> do u like amsn?
[07:52] <khirr> yes
[07:53] <niko> kopete is much better!
[07:53] <khirr> uhmm
[07:53] <niko> i believe
[07:53] <khirr> but, amsn i more complete
[07:53] <DaSkreech> !it | niko
[07:53] <ubotu> niko: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:53] <niko> well
[07:53] <niko> i speak english
[07:53] <khirr> yo tambien
[07:53] <niko> but i thank u for the info!!!
[07:53] <niko> khirr
[07:54] <DaSkreech> khirr: open konqueror and type gg: amsn 0.97 deb ubuntu
[07:54] <khirr> dime
[07:54] <niko> install it from
[07:54] <niko> rep!
[07:54] <khirr> okay
[07:54] <niko> or get it by typing
[07:54] <rodrigo> hey dask
[07:54] <niko> apt-get install amsn*
[07:54] <niko> it must work
[07:54] <niko> for install
[07:54] <niko> amsn
[07:54] <khirr> uhmm i have installed .97 b
[07:54] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: hey
[07:54] <khirr> i'd like rc1
[07:54] <rodrigo> daskreech two news
[07:55] <rodrigo> one good one bad
[07:55] <niko> it does work?
[07:55] <DaSkreech> niko: khirr  wants a newere version than the ones in the repos
[07:55] <rodrigo> wich one goes first?
[07:55] <khirr> yes
[07:55] <niko> ahhhhhhhhhh
[07:55] <niko> eheheh
[07:55] <DaSkreech> khirr: then find 0.97rc1 deb
[07:55] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: bad
[07:55] <niko> I'm a newbie
[07:55] <rodrigo> daskreech: lol it doens't open
[07:55] <khirr> Y_Y
[07:55] <niko> but happy to help
[07:55] <niko> ^^
[07:56] <rodrigo> thdaskreech e good it appears in  hte menu bar
[07:56] <niko> i'm rigth?
[07:56] <khirr> asi parece xD
[07:56] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: open it from the Command line see if it has any errors
[07:56] <khirr> lo mas importante es ayudar
[07:56] <niko> giusto! rigth! exacto!
[07:56] <khirr> the files .package?
[07:56] <khirr> what is the diference?
[07:57] <rodrigo> daskreech: lol friend see errrors? I feel like einstein for just download it now
[07:57] <khirr> how can i install one file.package?
[07:57] <rodrigo> now to see errors!
[07:57] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: open a konsole and type cine<tab>
[07:58] <rodrigo> daskreech
[07:58] <rodrigo> ok
[07:58] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: if it doesn't open pastebin the errors :)
[07:58] <rodrigo> but Im now downloading
[07:58] <rodrigo> another package
[07:58] <rodrigo> a pal of the ubuntu es is helping me with ardour
[07:59] <rodrigo> so we must wait is't it?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> no you can run a program while installing
[07:59] <DaSkreech> You can't install while installing :)
[07:59] <rodrigo> ok
[07:59] <rodrigo> oooooooooohhhhhhh
[07:59] <rodrigo> Im starting to think your obi wan and Im anakin
[07:59] <rodrigo> in the linux world
[08:00] <rodrigo> well
[08:00] <rodrigo> I prefer Luke
[08:00] <niko> daskreech
[08:00] <rodrigo> don't wont to get neurotic
[08:00] <niko> may ask u some help?
[08:00] <rodrigo> and go for the dark side
[08:00] <khirr> interesting :D
[08:01] <greg_g> DaSkreech: sorry, was away, when run in a terminal they just tell me segment fault, core dumped
[08:01] <niko> -.-
[08:02] <niko> well
[08:02] <DaSkreech> greg_g: yeesh
[08:02] <niko> i start open arena,,,, i try online aming!
[08:02] <DaSkreech> !ask | niko
[08:02] <ubotu> niko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:02] <niko> ops
[08:02] <niko> gaming!
[08:02] <niko> oh well
[08:02] <niko> sorry
[08:02] <greg_g> one person had the idea that maybe there was something wrong with the gtk libraries in kde, or something
[08:02] <niko> my trouble is
[08:03] <niko> in the installation of secondlife-install....
[08:03] <niko> it blocks my apt....
[08:03] <niko> & my package manager....
[08:03] <niko> also the updater manager....
[08:04] <khirr> where can i get tcl?
[08:04] <Ace2016> hi all
[08:04] <DaSkreech> greg_g: Hmm i guess you could kick in a reinstall
[08:04] <niko> i tried "apt-get install -f"
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Jucato: how goes?
[08:04] <DaSkreech> niko: how are you installing it?
[08:04] <niko> but it didn't work!!!
[08:04] <niko> by pacjage manager
[08:04] <DaSkreech> It's there?
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Neat :-)
[08:04] <niko> it was installling
[08:05] <rodrigo> daskreech how was the name of the page pastebin
[08:05] <rodrigo> how I get it?
[08:05] <DaSkreech> !paste
[08:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:05] <niko> but it report me a trouble....
[08:05] <rodrigo> thanks ubotu
[08:05] <DaSkreech> niko: What trouble?
[08:05] <niko> during the download....
[08:06] <niko> it can't find the archive...
[08:06] <rodrigo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24951/
[08:06] <rodrigo> here you gon daskreech
[08:06] <rodrigo> go
[08:06] <DaSkreech> niko: What's the name of the package?
[08:06] <greg_g> DaSkreech: reinstall? and then figure out what package I install does it? testing that would be tough because it doesn't happen for about a day.  A day per package is not realistic.  Is there something else I can look for
[08:06] <niko> "secondlife-install"
[08:06] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: what did you type in?
[08:06] <niko> i tried also
[08:06] <niko> apt-get remove....
[08:07] <Jucato> DaSkreech: still at a loss on what to do... :(
[08:07] <niko> but didn't do anything....
[08:07] <niko> it reports the same error....
[08:07] <DaSkreech> greg_g: I've not had a segmentation core dump before that wasn't hard drive related
[08:07] <DaSkreech> !info secondlife-install
[08:07] <ubotu> Package secondlife-install does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:07] <DaSkreech> niko: Where did you get it from?
[08:07] <rodrigo> daskreech the last comnand you told me
[08:07] <DaSkreech> cine then pressing tab ?
[08:08] <DaSkreech> !tab | rodrigo
[08:08] <ubotu> rodrigo: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[08:08] <rodrigo> cine<tab>
[08:08] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: cine then press the key tab :)
[08:09] <niko> from package manager
[08:09] <rodrigo> daskreech: like*.* in windows?
[08:09] <niko> i filtered....
[08:09] <niko> DaS
[08:09] <niko> it doesn't mather
[08:09] <DaSkreech> *blinks*
[08:09] <greg_g> DaSkreech: this is a brand new drive
[08:09] <niko> eheheh
[08:09] <niko> i've got the dvd version of kubuntu....
[08:09] <greg_g> DaSkreech: and I am only restarting X, not the computer and it fixes it
[08:09] <DaSkreech> greg_g: Well the only time I had an app segfault it was the drive it was reading the libs from
[08:09] <niko> i've only one quest
[08:10] <rodrigo> you are gonna hate me but which one is the key tab?
[08:10] <rodrigo> enter?
[08:10] <rodrigo> or the big one
[08:10] <rodrigo> for spacing?
[08:10] <niko> nope
[08:10] <niko> is
[08:10] <greg_g> DaSkreech: I have two drives but the external only has media on it, and the internal is brand new
[08:10] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: It's normally the one above caps lock
[08:10] <niko> the key on the left
[08:10] <niko> with to arrows
[08:10] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: it puts like 4-6 spaces in when you press it
[08:10] <niko> in opposite direction
[08:11] <rodrigo> ah ok
[08:11] <rodrigo> in spanish
[08:11] <rodrigo> is tabulador
[08:11] <niko> TAB....
[08:11] <DaSkreech> greg_g: I'm assuming the libs are on the brand new one
[08:11] <niko> it's the same abs
[08:11] <niko> for IT
[08:11] <niko> SPA
[08:11] <greg_g> DaSkreech: yeah
[08:11] <niko> ENG
[08:11] <DaSkreech> tabulador then :)
[08:11] <niko> ....
[08:11] <niko> eheheh
[08:11] <rodrigo> ok so i do that in the console
[08:11] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: yes. It should finish the name for you
[08:11] <rodrigo> ok you teach me linux I'l teach you spanish
[08:11] <DaSkreech> Deal
[08:12] <niko> DaS do u suggest me the Cd or DVD version?
[08:12] <rodrigo> daskreech
[08:12] <rodrigo> for your girlfriend:
[08:12] <rodrigo> O como te amo
[08:12] <DaSkreech> niko: Neither should matter :)
[08:12] <rodrigo> it mean how I love you
[08:12] <DaSkreech> Si!
[08:12] <greg_g> Oh how I love you
[08:12] <greg_g> right?
[08:12] <rodrigo> lol
[08:12] <greg_g> yes!
[08:12] <rodrigo> yep
[08:12] <rodrigo> let's make some romance
[08:12] <rodrigo> later guys
[08:12] <Jucato> O.o
[08:12] <DaSkreech> :-)
[08:12] <rodrigo> not everythins is computer
[08:13] <rodrigo> s
[08:13] <niko> but dvd it's better than cd ver?
[08:13] <niko> or it's almost the same?
[08:13] <rodrigo> ok let's work
[08:13] <DaSkreech> Jucato: is there an installable secondlife package ?
[08:13] <khirr> what the command yto copy one folder?
[08:13] <khirr> and to delete one folder?
[08:13] <Jucato> DaSkreech: dunno sorry
[08:13] <DaSkreech> niko: better if you have terrible download speed
[08:13] <niko> YEAH!
[08:13] <niko> i got it
[08:13] <niko> eheheheh
[08:13] <DaSkreech> Jucato: niko says that he is installing the package secondlife-install from the DVD
[08:14] <niko> nope!
[08:14] <niko> not from dvd
[08:14] <khirr> ?
[08:14] <niko> from internet
[08:14] <niko> from package manager
[08:14] <niko> adept
[08:14] <khirr> is del the command to delete one file?
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[08:15] <DaSkreech> khirr: rm
[08:15] <khirr> and, to copy?
[08:15] <Jucato> DaSkreech: afaik, there's none from the repos
[08:15] <khirr> copy a folder?
[08:15] <greg_g> DaSkreech: any other ideas other than the harddrive?
[08:15] <DaSkreech> Jucato: that's what I thouht
[08:15] <Admiral_Chicago_> cp
[08:15] <DaSkreech> greg_g: I'd say something is up with the libs but then they should segfault all the time right?
[08:16] <rodrigo> ok daskreech here it goes what appear in the console
[08:16] <rodrigo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24958/
[08:16] <greg_g> DaSkreech: yeah, you would think
[08:16] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: you too huh?
[08:17] <rodrigo> me too?
[08:17] <mike_> Greets, everyone...
[08:17] <khirr> T_T
[08:17] <khirr> i wnt to copy one folder, but i cant
[08:17] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: greg_g is getting the same error
[08:17] <DaSkreech> mike_: did you get the URL?
[08:17] <rodrigo> with cinellera?
[08:17] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: no firefox
[08:17] <rodrigo> I don't know
[08:17] <DaSkreech> khirr: you have to cp -r
[08:18] <mike_> DaSkreech: Sorry, I'm not remembering at the moment...?
[08:18] <DaSkreech> for KDE 3.5.7
[08:18] <rodrigo> Im just follinw what you telling me todo
[08:18] <rodrigo> ja
[08:18] <greg_g> rodrigo: and other gnome apps, all kde apps seem to work fine
[08:18] <DaSkreech> did you get that sorted out?
[08:18] <khirr> done :D
[08:18] <mike_> DaSkreech: Wrong "mike". :-)
[08:18] <DaSkreech> mike_: stop mooching the name!
[08:18] <mike_> Hehe
[08:19] <rodrigo> you mean you want me to check it out?
[08:19] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago_: any core dump advice ?
[08:19] <rodrigo> with fire fox
[08:19] <rodrigo> the error?
[08:19] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: no that's my job :)
[08:19] <rodrigo> mmm
[08:19] <rodrigo> ooooook
[08:19] <Admiral_Chicago_> with firefox?
[08:19] <Admiral_Chicago_> core dump for what profram
[08:20] <rodrigo> Im just a padawan
[08:20] <rodrigo> here
[08:20] <rodrigo> not yet a jedi
[08:20] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago_: cinelerra for rodrigo  and ff for greg_g
[08:20] <rodrigo> wow
[08:20] <rodrigo> you are asking for backups?
[08:20] <DaSkreech> well all gnome apps after the uptime creeps over 24 hours for greg_g
[08:20] <rodrigo> that's cool man
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago_> for greg_g i would suggest filing a bug report on launchpad and linking me to it.
[08:21] <rodrigo> admiral_chicago thanks for the help
[08:21] <greg_g> Admiral_Chicago_: ok
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago_> not sure, i dont use cinelerra but i would also file a bug report
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago_> and link me to them
[08:21] <rodrigo> mmmmm
[08:22] <rodrigo> so it's not all my fault
[08:22] <rodrigo> the program has bugs
[08:22] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24958/
[08:22] <rodrigo> Now I feel better
[08:22] <DaSkreech> strange duck rodrigo  :)
[08:22] <mike_> I was dual-booting two copies of Kubuntu (had one strictly for stable software and stuff I knew I want installed, one for all the bleeding edge stuff and testing out new stuff). I just deleted the partition for the second installation using QtParted (tried GParted first, which only booted into a busybox terminal), did "sudo update-grub" and now I'm getting error 22 when Grub tries to load.
[08:22] <rodrigo> daskreech what does it mean? strange  duck
[08:22] <rodrigo> ?
[08:23] <rodrigo> some slangs i don't get them
[08:23] <rodrigo> like in mexican spanish cool)
[08:23] <rodrigo> cool is chido
[08:23] <rodrigo> chida ayuda
[08:23] <rodrigo> cool help+
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago_> rodrigo: is that what happens when you try to start is CLI?
[08:23] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: it means that cinelerra doesn't do things that the other ducks in ubuntu do :)
[08:23] <rodrigo> admiral_chicago: what?
[08:23] <greg_g> Admiral_Chicago_: that is what I get, only less the info lines
[08:23] <DaSkreech> like mostly be easy to install and work :)
[08:24] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago_: yes
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago_> ah sorry. okay.
[08:24] <rodrigo> ooooooooh ok
[08:24] <rodrigo> very strange duck then
[08:24] <khirr> where can i get tcl?
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago_> what release are you in rodrigo greg_g
[08:24] <greg_g> Admiral_Chicago_: Fiesty
[08:24] <rodrigo> what is cli?
[08:24] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: the Konsole
[08:25] <greg_g> Admiral_Chicago_: but I added the kubuntu kde 3.5.7 repo
[08:25] <mike_> rodrigo: Command Line Interface
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago_> greg_g: run the program and give me all the information in a pastebin
[08:25] <greg_g> Admiral_Chicago_: I would, but i don't have the errors right now
[08:25] <greg_g> Admiral_Chicago_: I just restarted X
[08:25] <rodrigo> ah ok
[08:25] <greg_g> which fixes it (sorry, I forget to complete my thoghts before hitting enter)
[08:26] <rodrigo> man Im really getting educated here
[08:26] <mike_> Can someone help me with Grub's error 22?
[08:26] <DaSkreech> mike_: the fastest way is to hit the Grub FAQ
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago_> mike_: the second partion contained GRUB which you deleted i think
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago_> best bet would be to grab SuperGRUB CD or something like that
[08:27] <rodrigo> daskreech: hey dask, when I will see you again
[08:27] <Admiral_Chicago_> or reinstall it
[08:27] <Admiral_Chicago_> rodrigo: he's always here...
[08:27] <rodrigo> I must leave in about 15 minutes
[08:27] <greg_g> Admiral_Chicago_: I am going to fill the bug report, (linking to you) with the basic info, then when it happens again I will add more detail
[08:27] <rodrigo> daskreech
[08:27] <greg_g> btw, where are the core dumps located?
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago_> greg_g: /var/crash
[08:28] <rodrigo> dude its ok helping people here but you must go party also
[08:28] <rodrigo> some times
[08:28] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: yes
[08:28] <greg_g> Admiral_Chicago_: thanks
[08:28] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: ok I will in 15 minutes
[08:28] <DaSkreech> or .. after Futurama
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago_> well if you run it in the command line, it would be the whole ourput
[08:28] <rodrigo> lend me now when you visit mexico
[08:28] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago_: good info
[08:28] <mike_> Admiral_Chicago_: Thanks a lot. I'll try that.
[08:28] <rodrigo> I show you teotihuacan
[08:28] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: sure
[08:28] <rodrigo> or something cool
[08:29] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: ooooh I have a wallet from there
[08:29] <rodrigo> to edit in yes you got it
[08:29] <rodrigo> cinelerra
[08:29] <greg_g> Admiral_Chicago_: ok, I will add the logs for the apps I had crash
[08:29] <rodrigo> daskreech: where you come from dask?
[08:30] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: the 3rd matrix.
[08:31] <rodrigo> haha
[08:31] <khirr> i cant install amsn T_T
[08:31] <rodrigo> well I'm from wonderland spanish version
[08:31] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: I'm not too far from you :) I could boat over to you
[08:31] <DaSkreech> khirr: found a package?
[08:32] <rodrigo> daskreech so what you think?
[08:32] <rodrigo> is it installable? cinelerra?
[08:32] <rodrigo> or what?
[08:32] <khirr> yep. package
[08:32] <khirr> but, i hav installed the 0.97b
[08:32] <rodrigo> boat?
[08:32] <khirr> but, no one run
[08:32] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: It's installed We just need to make sure that it's all together
[08:32] <rodrigo> mmmmmmm
[08:33] <rodrigo> extrange duck
[08:33] <rodrigo> it works like a puzzle
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago_> greg_g: sounds good, make sure to let me see it
[08:33] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: Yes
[08:33] <khirr> where can i get the offical repository list?
[08:33] <greg_g> will do
[08:33] <rodrigo> and adimiral is helping you to do that?
[08:34] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago_: No clue for cinelerra huh?
[08:34] <rodrigo> well I believe Im not the chosen one
[08:34] <rodrigo> I don't see green numbers over here
[08:34] <DaSkreech> !easysource
[08:34] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:34] <rodrigo> Im more like the kung pow chosen one
[08:34] <rodrigo> than neo
[08:34] <rodrigo> hope betty is not here
[08:35] <khirr> is good or bad use automatix?
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago_> khirr: bad
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago_> it does a lot of things in non ideal ways and basically forces packages to install
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago_> apt-get -f install versus apt-get install
[08:36] <khirr> someone could help me o install amsn T_T
[08:36] <rodrigo> oh man I must go
[08:36] <rodrigo> now
[08:36] <rodrigo> oh no
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago_> and if you use automatix getting help can become a nightmare
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago_> !amsn
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago_> odd...
[08:36] <rodrigo> I can stay another fifteen minutes
[08:36] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: Betty
[08:37] <DaSkreech> !info amsn
[08:37] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2488 kB, installed size 9108 kB
[08:37] <DaSkreech> !info amsn gutsy
[08:37] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-2build1 (gutsy), package size 2456 kB, installed size 8944 kB
[08:37] <DaSkreech> He's looking for amsn -97 rc1
[08:37] <rodrigo> ilarious movie
[08:37] <rodrigo> Im not master pain any more
[08:37] <rodrigo> call me betty
[08:37] <rodrigo> hahahha
[08:37] <khirr> i found the amsn 0.97 rc1.package
[08:38] <khirr> but, no one msn run T_T
[08:38] <khirr> 0.96 only
[08:38] <greg_g> Admiral_Chicago_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/119654
[08:38] <rodrigo> daskreech: and all of this
[08:39] <rodrigo> can we make it public so others rodrigos doesn't go trough this?
[08:39] <mike_> Admiral_Chicago_: I just booted with the SuperGRUB CD and it just goes to a "grub>" prompt, rather than the language selection screen like it's supposed to. Any ideas?
[08:39] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: So going cow milking?
[08:39] <rodrigo> all this bugs?
[08:39] <rodrigo> hahahah
[08:39] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: hopefully
[08:39] <rodrigo> my tonguy is getting frustratred for not having a descent video editor
[08:40] <rodrigo> a ya ya ya yaaaaaaaaay
[08:40] <rodrigo> tonguy
[08:40] <DaSkreech> :-D
[08:40] <mike_> Admiral_Chicago_: Sorry, nevermind. I think I found what I need...
[08:40] <rodrigo> Im starting to use gnome
[08:40] <rodrigo> its cool
[08:40] <rodrigo> too
[08:41] <rodrigo> but the commercial software is more confortable
[08:41] <rodrigo> like mike Yaguer says
[08:41] <rodrigo> you can't always get what you waaant
[08:41] <rodrigo> comfortable
[08:42] <DaSkreech> !e17
[08:42] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[08:43] <rodrigo> ok dask
[08:43] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: going out to party now :0
[08:44] <DaSkreech> So late
[08:44] <DaSkreech>  so late
[08:44] <rodrigo> yep
[08:44] <rodrigo> but this cinelerra thing
[08:44] <mike_> Admiral_Chicago_: Are you still around?
[08:44] <rodrigo> I don't know how much is obssesion
[08:44] <rodrigo> how much a true need
[08:44] <rodrigo> one friend of mine
[08:45] <rodrigo> wants me to produce some videos for futball players
[08:45] <rodrigo> the custome here is using pirate software
[08:45] <rodrigo> but I don't want it
[08:45] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: you can install other ones to play with in the meantime
[08:45] <greg_g> ok, bed now
[08:45] <greg_g> goodnight all
[08:45] <rodrigo> I want to have a clear conscience
[08:45] <DaSkreech> night
[08:45] <khirr> i wanna cry Y_Y
[08:45] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: I support that
[08:45] <rodrigo> daskreech
[08:45] <mike_> rodrigo: Have you tried Kino, KDEnlive, and/or LIVES?
[08:45] <DaSkreech> khirr: where did you get the package
[08:45] <DaSkreech>  and what is in it?
[08:46] <khirr> in th official website
[08:46] <rodrigo> I don't want to hurt the feelings of linux community but the video editors are not that good
[08:46] <khirr> i have problems with tsl and tcl
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago_> hi mike_ sorry I'm here
[08:46] <DaSkreech> tsl ?
[08:46] <rodrigo> I tried must of them
[08:46] <khirr> tls
[08:46] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: getting better all the time :)
[08:46] <DaSkreech> !info tls
[08:46] <mike_> Admiral_Chicago_: No problem, still having some problems...
[08:46] <rodrigo> but no ones have the level of premmiere
[08:46] <ubotu> Package tls does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago_> whats the issue
[08:47] <rodrigo> hey that's a beatle song
[08:47] <khirr> tls11.5
[08:47] <khirr> tls1.5
[08:47] <khirr> but, the package say tcl file error
[08:48] <DaSkreech> !info tcl
[08:48] <ubotu> Package tcl does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:48] <DaSkreech> khirr: check if you have tcl isntalled
[08:48] <khirr> tcl does no exist in feisty ;S
[08:48] <khirr> uhmm
[08:48] <khirr> i have it
[08:48] <khirr> but, not run
[08:50] <khirr> Checking for TCL Scripting Language ... failed
[08:50] <khirr> Could not find 'TCL Scripting Language'. Try using the native package manager for Ubuntu 7.04 (apt-get) to install a package with similar name to 'tcl'.
[08:50] <rodrigo> hey daskreech so its a lost cause by now?
[08:51] <niko1983> italian channel?
[08:51] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: Might not be we shall take a look and inform you
[08:51] <DaSkreech>  rodrigo did you file a bug?
[08:51] <rodrigo> file a bug?
[08:51] <rodrigo> you mean upload
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago_> !it | niko1983
[08:52] <ubotu> niko1983: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:52] <rodrigo> info
[08:52] <rodrigo> about the prgram?
[08:52] <mike_> Admiral_Chicago_: I can't find anything on the SuperGRUB website that helps with this... When I boot from the CD, i just get a "grub>" prompt. I tried running the commands listed here - http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html#How_Make_your_Super_Grub_Floppy_Disk (replacing "fd0" with "cdrom0") - and it says "Error while parsing number"
[08:53] <mike_> Admiral_Chicago_: Any ideas?
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago_> !grub
[08:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago_> try following those intructions. might be easier..
[08:53] <rodrigo> ok pal
[08:53] <rodrigo> the thing is that at least it appears in the menu
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago_> you can use the liveCd for those mike_
[08:54] <rodrigo> of multmiedia
[08:54] <mike_> Admiral_Chicago_: Much appreciated. I'll see what I can do.
[08:54] <rodrigo> multimedia
[08:54] <DaSkreech> !bug | rodrigo
[08:54] <ubotu> rodrigo: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:54] <rodrigo> I push it
[08:54] <mike_> Admiral_Chicago_: The live CD I used to install Kubuntu?
[08:54] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: If you file a bug then you can follow it as we try and solve the problem and we will e-mail you when it's solved
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago_> yes
[08:55] <rodrigo> ooooh
[08:55] <rodrigo> this aplies also for my lexmark problem?
[08:55] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: yes
[08:55] <rodrigo> daskreech ohh and just says what happens?
[08:56] <rodrigo> can I send you mor info to get more  precisse help
[08:56] <rodrigo> more info
[08:56] <DaSkreech> but it's unlkely that will get fixed without Lexmark so I still say e-mail them and let them know that you use linux and would like the printer/scanner to work
[08:56] <rodrigo> whith that things you told me to paste
[08:56] <rodrigo> ?
[08:56] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: read bugs.ubuntu.com It's pretty easy
[08:57] <rodrigo> ok dask I must register
[08:57] <rodrigo> there
[08:57] <azzco> Hi I'm running pure kubuntu right now, 've got a spare partition which I inted to install winXP on.. how do I get grub to load after installing windows again?
[08:57] <DaSkreech> !grub
[08:57] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:57] <Admiral_Chicago_> !grub | azzco
[08:57] <ubotu> azzco: please see above
[08:58] <azzco> I'll look into it
[08:58] <azzco> I was afraid I'd have to reinstall kubuntu
[08:58] <DaSkreech> azzco: no fear
[08:58] <DaSkreech> Good night all !
[08:59] <khirr> is more stable feisty or edgy?
[08:59] <azzco> God night (It's 6 o clock in the monring here though)
[08:59] <azzco> khirr: if you're looking for stable go for dapper drake
[08:59] <khirr> uhmmm
[08:59] <khirr> is better than other two?
[08:59] <azzco> I haven't had any problems with feisty though ;)
[08:59] <rodrigo> ok dask
[08:59] <azzco> It has long time support
[08:59] <rodrigo> I must leave now
[09:00] <rodrigo> I will make the report later
[09:00] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: as must I
[09:00] <DaSkreech> hope to see you soon
[09:00] <DaSkreech> ok :)
[09:00] <rodrigo> the same pal
[09:00] <rodrigo> enjoy futurama
[09:00] <khirr> how long time has edgy?
[09:00] <rodrigo> that one eye chick is hot
[09:00] <DaSkreech> leeeeeeeeela
[09:00] <rodrigo> yep
[09:00] <rodrigo> the day matt groenning draw me
[09:00] <rodrigo> I would like to be drawn with her
[09:01] <rodrigo> see you later bro
[09:01] <rodrigo> take care
[09:01] <DaSkreech> I'll ask him :)
[09:01] <rodrigo> and thanks for the help
[09:01] <azzco> khirr: I think it's kind of over since feisty ;), I'd say either go for feisty or dapper
[09:02] <azzco> Okay going to install windows now... wish me luck, I'm holding my thumbs for it not exploding
[09:02] <khirr> uhmm, in edgy i didnt have problem with my camera, but in feisty...doesnt run ;S
[09:03] <azzco> What kind of camera?
[09:03] <khirr> i know xD
[09:03] <khirr> T_T
[09:03] <khirr> vimicro
[09:03] <azzco> never heard of but have you googled on it or checked the ubuntu forums?
[09:04] <azzco> Ok well rebooting time
[09:10] <firdaus> somebody help me..
[09:10] <niels_> with what?
[09:10] <firdaus> if im installing a software by using the adept manager
[09:10] <firdaus> where the program goes??
[09:10] <niels_> if it doesnt go anywhere in the menus, trying opening a terminal and enter the command
[09:12] <mike_> Admiral_Chicago_: I just tried both of those and it's still giving the same error. Thanks for your help so far though.
[09:12] <mike_> (error 22)
[09:13] <firdaus> what`s the command??
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago_> firdaus: what program?
[09:13] <niels_> sometimes the same as the package name...
[09:14] <firdaus> libvorbis
[09:15] <mark_> I've just installed wireless support for my edgy installation but I need WPA with AES... is this possible?
[09:15] <rodrigo> #kubuntu_es
[09:15] <snowdonkey> My Xterm runs slowly.  It takes 10 seconds for the prompt to come up and another 10 for it to close once I hit the X.
[09:16] <snowdonkey> I found out the reason is for this error message I get when I login without X server: ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04
[09:17] <snowdonkey> I downloaded smartmontools to check the health of the drive, all the tests pass, so trying to follow a hint on Gentoo forum I'm trying to configure Kernel
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago_> mike_: you want to basically mount /boot/grub from your stable partition
[09:17] <snowdonkey> here's the post, but it's vague on what I do next: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-563363.html?
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago_> and get that one to update...
[09:17] <rodrigo> hey guys
[09:17] <rodrigo> how can I found some one in Irc?
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago_> sorry i'm not of much help now..
[09:18] <rodrigo> I lost the chanel but I remeber his nickname
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago_>  /whois nick
[09:18] <rodrigo> thanks
[09:18] <Lynoure> rodrigo: and even /msg nickname hello   if you actually know them.
[09:18] <mark_> !wireless
[09:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:20] <mark_> !WPA
[09:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:24] <mike_> Admiral_Chicago_: Sorry, was away. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do.
[09:25] <mike_> Admiral_Chicago_: I'm pretty sure I never deleted GRUB to begin with, because I did "sudo update-grub" after deleting the "unstable" partition, and it didn't give any errors. Or does that not really mean anything?
[09:31] <tyron> hi im new t linux trying to access files in root can anyone help?
[09:31] <mike_> tyron: What do you mean by accessing files in root?
[09:31] <tyron> kdesu kwrite /ect/samba/smbusers
[09:32] <tyron> an i just get errors
[09:32] <mike_> Getting "Permission denied" when trying to look at certain files?
[09:32] <tyron> no here
[09:32] <mike_> tyron: You meant ".../etc/samba...", right?
[09:33] <mike_> Just making sure the errors aren't because of a typo. :-)
[09:34] <tyron> haha feeling really stupid now.. that you so much.
[09:35] <tyron> one other thing after installing apache and  an ftp client how do i acess my www directory?
[09:36] <mike_> No problem, tyron - Don't feel stupid - I may have just broken my system with some careless repartitioning
[09:36] <mike_> tyron: Sorry, I know nothing about any of that. :-\
[09:36] <mike_> !apache
[09:36] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:38] <mike_> Admiral_Chicago_: I'm getting nowhere with this. I've tried every tutorial on both of those pages and keep getting "Error 22" when GRUB tries to load.
[09:39] <bricoh> hello :) i need help. I can't get adept_manager to work, it says its already running, but its not!
[09:41] <mike_> bricoh: Run "sudo killall adept_manager" from a terminal. If that doesn't work, open KSysGuard, find the process ID of Adept and do "sudo kill -9 <processid#here>"
[09:42] <bricoh> ill try :) tnx
[09:42] <mike_> No problem
[09:43] <mike_> bricoh: You might want to check out GNOME's package management programs. I've never seen them give that problem (used to get it somewhat often with Adept), plus they have a lot more features.
[09:43] <bricoh> I use kde though
[09:43] <mike_> bricoh: Me too ;-)
[09:44] <bricoh> where can i find KSysGuart?
[09:44] <bricoh> Guard
[09:44] <mike_> bricoh: K Menu -> System
[09:44] <bricoh> found it :)
[09:45] <mike_> Can anyone please help me with GRUB's Error 22? I've already tried several tutorials, and SuperGRUB CD won't boot on my system.
[09:45] <bricoh> strange, but its not running
[09:45] <mike_> bricoh: Did you type "adept" into the search box?
[09:46] <bricoh> yepp
[09:46] <mike_> Hmm
[09:46] <mike_> You could log out and log back in, maybe.
[09:46] <mike_> bricoh: Hang on one sec...
[09:46] <bricoh> my computer crashed yesterday, in the middle of an update..
[09:47] <mike_> Ohh, ouch.
[09:47] <bricoh> there would be a temp file somwhere that is blocking it?
[09:48] <mike_> bricoh: Try running this command from Konsole: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[09:48] <bricoh> bricoh@bricoh:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:49] <bricoh> dpkg: Kravproblem hindrer oppsettet av limewire-basic:
[09:49] <bricoh>  limewire-basic krever sun-java5-jre | sun-java6-jre | sun-java5-jdk | sun-java6-jdk. Men:
[09:49] <bricoh>   Package sun-java5-jre is not installed.
[09:49] <bricoh>   Package sun-java6-jre is not installed.
[09:49] <bricoh>   Package sun-java5-jdk is not installed.
[09:49] <bricoh>   Package sun-java6-jdk is not installed.
[09:49] <bricoh> dpkg: Feil ved behandling av limewire-basic (--configure):
[09:49] <bricoh>  kravproblem - setter ikke opp pakken
[09:49] <bricoh> Det oppsto feil ved behandling av:
[09:49] <bricoh>  limewire-basic
[09:49] <mike_> bricoh: Ok ok... :-)
[09:49] <bricoh> error
[09:49] <mike_> bricoh: Use the pastebin for long sets of lines like that. ;-)
[09:50] <mike_> !pastebin
[09:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:50] <bricoh> okay, sorry :)
[09:50] <mike_> No problem
[09:51] <mike_> Umm... Try "sudo apt-get -f install" maybe?
[09:51] <bricoh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24964/
[09:51] <bricoh> :P
[09:52] <bricoh> it is starting to install java ;)
[09:53] <mike_> Cool
[09:53] <mike_> Now can you help me fix GRUB? :-P
[09:53] <mike_> j/k
[09:54] <bricoh> hehe.. im pretty new at linux, but an extra head could not hurt?
[09:57] <mike_> I decided I wanted to dual-boot two copies of Kubuntu - one strictly for stable software that I know I want to keep, the other for unstable stuff and programs I'm trying out (the stable partition is the second one I installed). I decided I no longer want the stable partition, so I deleted it. Reboot the system - "GRUB loading... Error 22"
[09:58] <SilentDis> mike_: was that your primary partition?
[09:59] <SilentDis> mike_: it sounds very much like you hosed grub's config files.
[09:59] <bricoh> hmm.. there is a line in the GRUB config file that is trying to list your former stable installation..
[09:59] <SilentDis> !grub | mike_
[09:59] <ubotu> mike_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:59] <SilentDis> mike_: i'd actually check out the first link there, so you can just reinstall grub :)
[09:59] <mike_> SilentDis: I already followed every how-to in both of those, no dice. Thanks anyway though.
[10:00] <SilentDis> mike_: weird, let me look up that error
[10:01] <mike_> SuperGRUB CD won't even boot on my computer (nor will GParted, what I tried to use instead of QtParted). I think there might be something wrong with my setup in that regard.
[10:01] <SilentDis> mike_: from what i'm reading, the MBR is hosed.
[10:01] <mike_> SilentDis: MBR is only for Windoze, right?
[10:02] <SilentDis> mike_: some background info here at least: http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t405091.html
[10:02] <SilentDis> mike_: should be, you might have to repartition to get anything back unfortunatly :(
[10:02] <mike_> SilentDis: Already looked at that page, I think. I stopped after seeing it was for if you had Windows installed (which I don't).
[10:03] <mike_> SilentDis: Thanks anyway
[10:04] <mike_> ubotu: Why does the default partitioning tool in Kubuntu suck so bad? :-D
[10:04] <SilentDis> lol
[10:06] <SilentDis> mike_: have you tried the supergrubdisk?
[10:07] <SilentDis> mike_: http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[10:07] <mike_> SilentDis: Yeah, it just booted into a GRUB prompt. I tried the commands it suggested here - http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html - with no luck.
[10:08] <mike_> I think I'm developing a tumor
[10:08] <SilentDis> damnit.  it's obvious that the stupid drive's MBR is hosed...  not sure how to repair it if all that hasn't worked other than a destructive repartiton of the whole thing :(
[10:08] <mike_> SilentDis: There is no MBR.
[10:09] <SilentDis> mike_: grub still puts something there, where the bios first looks to bootstrap the machine
[10:09] <mike_> I wasn't dual-booting Windows + Linux, I was dual-booting two copies of Kubuntu
[10:09] <mike_> GRUB still puts something where?
[10:10] <SilentDis> mike_: in the first few sectors of the drive.  when bios goes to look on boot media, it looks in specific locations (first couple sectors, as exmaple).  that's what's hosed.
[10:10] <mike_> Ohh ok
[10:12] <SilentDis> mike_: the only other thing I can think of, as I said, is a destructive reformat of the whole drive.  someone else might have a better recommendation for rebuilding it though.  sorry :(
[10:12] <mike_> Well, what I'm considering at this point, as it looks like it's my only option, is to boot the live CD, hopefully use QtParted to move all my stuff to a new partition, then do a clean install on the primary partition. Do you think that might work?
[10:13] <SilentDis> mike_: yeah, it's a real bad solution in my book, and i KNOW there's a way to fix it (there always is), just don't know what that way is without rebuilding from scratch :(
[10:18] <mike_> I decided I wanted to dual-boot two copies of Kubuntu - one strictly for stable software that I know I want to keep, the other for unstable stuff and programs I'm trying out (the stable partition is the second one I installed). I decided I no longer want the stable partition, so I deleted it. Reboot the system - "GRUB loading... Error 22"
[10:18] <mike_> !grub
[10:18] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:19] <Hobbsee> mike_: means you need to install grub on the *other* partition
[10:19] <mike_> I've already tried the tutorials on those pages, as well as SuperGRUB CD, which only gave a GRUB prompt - tried the commands found here - http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html#How_Make_your_Super_Grub_Floppy_Disk - and I still get the same error.
[10:20] <Hobbsee> mike_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0 didnt work?
[10:20] <mike_> Right.
[10:21] <Hobbsee> what did it say?
[10:21] <Hobbsee> mike_: i've used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-ec3e41291c7a5a7b61d7827299415204067765de a fair bit with no problem
[10:21] <mike_> It said it was successful
[10:22] <mike_> I'm gonna try it again just to be *extra* sure, but I'm doubtful it's gonna help.
[10:22] <tyron> Ok so ive installed apche, mysql and php all working but i get access denied when i try to drag and drop my site into /var/www/ - how am i supposed to access it?
[10:22] <Hobbsee> which are you using as the root drive in this case?
[10:23] <Hobbsee> the stable, or the unstable?
[10:23] <Hobbsee> you'd need to use the unstable /dev/hdax to make it work
[10:23] <mike_> unstable
[10:24] <mike_> Hobbsee: You're talking about the first guide under the "Using the Ubuntu Alternate/Install CD," right?
[10:25] <Hobbsee> mike_: yeah, think so.
[10:25] <Hobbsee> mike_: oh wait - the one underneat that
[10:26] <mike_> Hobbsee: Oh ok. I somehow missed that one. I'm gonna try it...
[10:26] <epimeth> gooooog morning
[10:27] <mike_> G'morning
[10:28] <Fabian921> hello
[10:29] <Fabian921> is that the support channel for kubuntu?
[10:30] <epimeth> Fabian921: you mean is this the support channel?
[10:30] <Fabian921> yes
[10:30] <Fabian921> sorry
[10:30] <epimeth> yes :-)
[10:30] <mike_> Hobbsee: Would you mind helping me a bit with that tutorial?
[10:30] <Fabian921> i have a question
[10:30] <Hobbsee> mike_: if i'm here, sure
[10:31] <Fabian921> i changed from suse 9.3 to kubutu
[10:31] <mike_> Hobbsee: On step 4, where it says to mount the appropriate partitions...
[10:32] <Fabian921> and now i want to get my old desktop- configuration for my new system
[10:32] <Fabian921> is that possible?
[10:32] <Fabian921> (kde)
[10:33] <Hobbsee> mike_: yep?
[10:33] <Fabian921> and how can i do that?
[10:33] <Fabian921> where are the configuration- files?
[10:34] <Fabian921> is there a directory which i can copy?
[10:34] <mike_> There's no /boot partition listed - Just #1 Primary at /media/sda1, two swaps (one for the partition I deleted, which I'm guessing is the "logical" one, and one for the one I kept, labeled "primary"), then of course there's the free space from having deleted the partition
[10:36] <mike_> Hobbsee: Should I just ignore that and proceed?
[10:36] <mike_> Hobbsee: Sorry I'm being so timid, but being confronted with the possibility of losing all my data makes me nervous. :-)
[10:37] <Hobbsee> mike_: yeah, should be fine.  you only need to mount the ones you use - make sur e/ is there
[10:37] <Hobbsee> you can add anything else to fstab later anyway
[10:38] <Kittisak> hello
[10:38] <Kittisak> help me , how to enable /dev/tcp for bash shell
[10:38] <mike_> Good morning, Kittisak
[10:39] <Kittisak> Good morning, mike
[10:39] <mike_> !tcp
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <mike_> Hmm
[10:39] <mike_> I don't know anything about it either. :-\
[10:39] <Kittisak> mike: no problem
[10:39] <berkes> is there a tool or command in ubuntu to rebuild the fstab entirely?
[10:40] <mike_> Oh ok, Hobbsee. Thanks
[10:40] <Kittisak> ubotu : thanks
[10:40] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:40] <berkes> every update my fstab UUID break. resulting in a swap mount that is not activated. Rebuilding fstab from scratch may be the best option, not?
[10:40] <thoreauputic> afaik there is no /dev/tcp ...
[10:40] <thoreauputic> Kittisak: what are you wanting to do, really?
[10:41] <Kittisak> i want write bash shell open socket
[10:41] <thoreauputic> Kittisak: but what are you actually doing ? What are you trying to achieve?
[10:42] <thoreauputic> maybe if we know that we can answer
[10:43] <Kittisak> thoreauputic : i interesting about bash script , learning
[10:43] <Kittisak> thoreauputic : export sock="/dev/tcp/$server/$port"
[10:43] <mike_> Hobbsee: I'm like, 99.9% sure the swap partition labeled #5 is the one I set up on the partition I'm keeping, but it's "logical" and the partition I'm keeping is "primary" - Does that matter?
[10:43] <fdoving> Kittisak: use ksh or sometihng not bash. it's a bash-on-ubuntu-and-debian issue.
[10:43] <Kittisak> i knowned about debian disable /dev/tcp
[10:44] <Hobbsee> mike_: you shouldnt be letting it delete anything but swap regardless.  the logical/primary shouldnt matter, iirc
[10:44] <Kittisak> may be re complie bash
[10:44] <fdoving> keep in mind that if you want to make something others can use, you probably don't want to do that.
[10:45] <Kittisak> fdoving: thanks you everybody
[10:45] <fdoving> Kittisak: if you want to script in bash, make a ksh wrapper for opening sockets. simple script that takes arguments.
[10:45] <Kittisak> now use telnet and netcat than /dev/tcp
[10:46] <Kittisak> fdoving : thanks you very much
[10:46] <mike_> Hobbsee: Ok. It's resizing the primary partition now......
[10:46] <thoreauputic> telnet and netcat... sounds kind of insecure to me ( but I don't know what the script does)
[10:48] <mike_> Complete IRC-newb question: How do you do the little action things? (e.g., "Name * does this)
[10:48] <Kittisak> thoreauputic: i testing write bash script for irc bot for learning about bash only
[10:48] <fdoving> mike_: /me thing
[10:48] <mike_> fdoving: Thanks
[10:49] <thoreauputic> Kittisak: OK - I don't know enough to help then
[10:49] <Hobbsee> heh
[10:49] <Hobbsee> i hope it works
[10:49] <Hobbsee> else i'll have to hide
[10:49] <mike_> lol
[10:50] <Kittisak> thoreauputic: bash script, i use telnet and netcat have done, but i want to know another way
[10:50] <mike_> Nah, you just won't have an indentured servant
[10:51] <Kittisak> thoreauputic: thanks you very much
[10:53] <Kittisak> i ever program by Mono C# PHP and another but interest classic script
[10:55] <mike_> Hobbsee: After making the changes and selecting "Finish partitioning and write changes to disk" it says "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu." Any ideas?
[10:55] <Hobbsee> mike_: you didnt mount / but tell it not to format it?
[10:56] <mike_> Umm... Whoops.
[10:56] <Kittisak> thoreauputic: apologize for english language communication
[10:57] <Kittisak> opening dict hahaha
[10:57] <thoreauputic> Kittisak: you are doing fine :)
[10:57] <mike_> Hobbsee: So I'm guessing to mount it, I just change its mount point to / ?
[10:57] <Hobbsee> yes
[11:02] <Kittisak> this channel talk about kubuntu only ?
[11:03] <Kittisak> or another ?
[11:03] <Kittisak> law
[11:04] <mike_> Kittisak: You might check out #bash
[11:04] <Kittisak> mike_: thanks you
[11:04] <mike_> I mean if you're wanting to get help with bash scripting
[11:04] <mike_> Kittisak: No problem
[11:05] <Tanay> can some1 help me to get my memory card device to work on kubuntu?
[11:06] <iarwain_> hiya, anyone know how i can set the temperature when my fans need to start spinning?
[11:07] <mike_> Kittisak: Also, this - http://www.openaddict.com/documents/abs-guide/index.html - is supposed to be a great guide on scripting.
[11:08] <mike_> I've had it sitting in my bookmarks for a good while now, keep putting off actually reading it. Hehe
[11:09] <Kittisak> mike_: thanks very much
[11:10] <mike_> No problem
[11:11] <Kittisak> mike_: my bookmarks too.
[11:11] <Kittisak> :)
[11:11] <Kittisak> mike_: thanks you for info again
[11:11] <mike_> Hobbsee: "The grub package failed to install into /target/... yada yada yada..." Am I missing something?
[11:11] <mike_> Glad to help :-)
[11:12] <Tanay> hey some1 help me get my memory card drive workin
[11:12] <Tanay> plssssssssss
[11:12] <mike_> Tanay, did you already look in /media ?
[11:12] <Tanay> yep
[11:12] <Tanay> i did
[11:12] <Tanay> but it doesnt show the drive at all
[11:14] <mike_> Maybe look in /dev and see if you can find it in there. If so, "sudo mount /dev/usbdrivesname /where/you/want/to/mount/it"
[11:15] <mike_> Can't imagine why you'd have to go through all that though
[11:16] <mike_> Hobbsee: Still with us? :-)
[11:17] <Kittisak> may me logical name: --> $ lshw
[11:17] <Kittisak> may be logical name: --> $ lshw
[11:18] <Kittisak> look at product:
[11:18] <Tanay> hey mike tried tht
[11:18] <Tanay> doesnt seem to solve the problem
[11:19] <Kittisak> Tanay , try to $ lshw   and look for product: and logical name: and mount
[11:22] <Kittisak> Tanay: kubuntu go to ---> Settings ----> Systems Administration -- select Mount Point Editer
[11:22] <Kittisak> Tanay: i using KDE 3.5.6 on ubutn edgy 6.10 server
[11:22] <Tanay> ok
[11:22] <Tanay> one sec
[11:22] <Kittisak> Tanay: i using KDE 3.5.6 on ubuntu edgy 6.10 server
[11:23] <Tanay> ok i am using kubuntu fiesty fawn
[11:23] <Kittisak> oh
[11:23] <Kittisak> i never
[11:23] <Tanay> on a normal pc cant ee the systems administartion!
[11:23] <mike_> Hobbsee: I'm guessing it shouldn't actually be making progress at the "Select and install software" step?
[11:25] <Kittisak> mike_ help me , hahaha :) , i never use kubuntu fiesty fawn
[11:25] <Tanay> yeah mike help
[11:25] <Kittisak> mike_: for Tanay
[11:25] <zipper> Anyone managed to get divxplayer working in linux? It says to "try Mplayer for linux support" - but after installing mplayer + mplayer mozilla plugin, it still shows that message. Any hints?
[11:25] <zipper> !divx
[11:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:26] <Tanay> wat system configuraion are u using krittisak???
[11:26] <mike_> Tanay: Sorry, what I already suggested is pretty much the limit of my knowledge. I'm still more of a newb than I care to admit. :-\
[11:26] <Kittisak> Tanay: i too
[11:27] <mike_> !seveas
[11:27] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:27] <Tanay> ok Thanks!!!! i am a real newbie to linux! jsut 15 days old
[11:27] <mike_> zipper: Try following that link, and after following the guide, do "sudo apt-get install w32codecs" from a terminal
[11:28] <mike_> zipper: You might search in the package manager for divx stuff too, after adding Seveas' repository.
[11:29] <zipper> mike_: thanks, i'll try. I cant seem to find w32codecs in the repositories even though i have enabled multiverse and universe
[11:29] <mike_> zipper: You have to add Seveas' repository
[11:29] <mike_> !seveas
[11:29] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:30] <zipper> ah okay
[11:30] <Kittisak> Tanay: what type of your memory card drive
[11:30] <mike_> Now that I think about it, I don't think w32codecs includes divx support, could be wrong
[11:30] <Kittisak> Tanay: or product name
[11:30] <mike_> But I know I've seen a fair number of divx-related packages in the package manager
[11:31] <mike_> Never bothered with them though, since I've never had any divx files to play.
[11:33] <Kittisak> mike_: programmer ?
[11:33] <mike_> Kittisak: Not yet. :-)
[11:33] <Kittisak> mike_: where u from ?
[11:34] <zipper> mike_: i think i can play regular divx files with vlc, but i need to get the web-based divxplayer working
[11:34] <mike_> I've written a couple of very simple scripts that anybody who sat down and read for a couple hours could do, but that's about it.
[11:34] <mike_> Kentucky, US. And you?
[11:34] <Kittisak> Thailand donmaung
[11:34] <Kittisak> sawasdee krub
[11:34] <Kittisak> hello
[11:35] <mike_> zipper: Well, from my understanding of MPlayer, once you get the codec for divx installed, it should play them without a hitch
[11:35] <mike_> hi
[11:36] <zipper> mike_: i have mplayer, and now also the w32codecs package. Restarting firefox, but i still cant play the video
[11:36] <Kittisak> mike_: Kentucky, i like fire chicken
[11:36] <Kittisak> :)
[11:36] <mike_> zipper: Search Adept for "divx codec"
[11:37] <mike_> That's all we're known for. :-P
[11:37] <Kittisak> zipper: recommend Automatix
[11:38] <zipper> i dont like automatix =/
[11:38] <zipper> when it works, its great
[11:38] <zipper> but if something goes wrong... you're boned
[11:38] <Kittisak> great for sometime :P
[11:38] <mike_> Yeah. I've stopped using it.
[11:39] <mike_> All the experts in here strongly recommend against it
[11:39] <Kittisak> oh!
[11:39] <zipper> mike_: i cant seem to find any interresting divx packages
[11:39] <zipper> not any that would help me play divxplayer sites anyway
[11:41] <Panda200x> MikeOS? I think I used that once :p
[11:41] <mike_> zipper: What site are you trying to go to? I'm gonna see if it works on this end
[11:42] <zipper> mike_: http://stage6.divx.com/user/Greensleeve/video/1251655/Quake-4-Duel---WSVG-2006---Fatal1ty-vs-Toxic---Placebo
[11:43] <Panda200x> Hey I updated Kubuntu, and when I reboot I can't login because it restarts X :/
[11:43] <mike_> zipper: It plays here
[11:44] <benutz0r> have you uptated yout kernel, too? x Panda200x
[11:44] <benutz0r> *your
[11:44] <mike_> zipper: Hang on...
[11:44] <vbgunz> how do I make a disk read only?
[11:44] <vbgunz> read only to me and all regular users but writable by sudo of course would very useful
[11:44] <Panda200x> I don't think so
[11:44] <benutz0r> hmm
[11:44] <benutz0r> no idea ^^
[11:44] <nahemoth> is there any restore point like thing in Kubuntu or something like  "get data back" KDE crashed an all my hda5 formated!!
[11:45] <mike_> zipper: Search in Adept for "divx" and tell me which ones you have installed
[11:45] <Tanay> hey krittisak sorry i wasnt on my desk
[11:45] <dazjorz> vbgunz: set the uid and gid of the disk in fstab
[11:45] <Tanay> i have a sony vaio
[11:45] <BadRobot> hi there
[11:45] <dazjorz> vbgunz: I think that'll work
[11:45] <Tanay> and its ainbuilt memory stick duo por drive
[11:45] <vbgunz> dazjorz: I'll look into it, thank you
[11:45] <zipper> mike_: it shows: avidemux, avifile-divx-plugin, divxcomp, drip - none of them installed
[11:47] <BadRobot> i need some urgent help,i mistakenlydeleted the APT line for on the repositories ,the line what gives the server,web/ftp/mirrors adresses for the updates and package on synaptic,how can i get them back?
[11:47] <mike_> zipper: Looks like the ones you need are from the Automatix repo's. :-\
[11:47] <zipper> !source-o-matic BadRobot
[11:48] <zipper> mike_: awww okay....
[11:48] <zipper> !automatix
[11:48] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:48] <BadRobot> so,should i do a command line with those !source-o-matic
[11:49] <zipper> mike_: you know where to find automatix?
[11:49] <mike_> zipper: You could try googling these: "libdivx0-binary.deb" "libdivxdecore0-binary.deb" "libdivxencore0-binary.deb"
[11:49] <BadRobot> Ubotu,grandmother sends you some greeting please shut it up or keep your hands out the keyboard,if you can't help don't disturb either
[11:50] <mike_> zipper: www.getautomatix.com - But given ubotu's warning, I'd consider that a last resort
[11:50] <ben_> !kde
[11:50] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[11:50] <mike_> zipper: You could also try just installing Automatix, then installing the packages you want via your package manager, then uninstalling Automatix
[11:50] <BadRobot> so how should get it back?
[11:50] <llp78> !WorksForMe
[11:51] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:51] <zipper> BadRobot: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:52] <zipper> mike_: okay thanks. I remember there being an application just like automatix... forgot the name though. Is automatix the best out there?
[11:53] <sivaji> i dont want to start "mail transport agent" at boot time ple someone help me
[11:54] <mike_> zipper: From what I've heard, it's the worst. :-P
[11:54] <zipper> mike_: yeah, but well, the best of its kind then
[11:54] <mike_> By "application like it", you mean one that uses scripts to install/remove software that doesn't have available deb packages?
[11:54] <zipper> yes...
[11:55] <mike_> It's the only one I'm aware of
[11:55] <zipper> i'm positive there used to be another one which i used.... oh well, probably not being worked on anymore
[11:55] <mike_> zipper: If you want, I could just e-mail you the files.
[11:56] <mike_> the .debs, I mean,
[11:56] <zipper> mike_: the .deb files? Thanks, but isnt that likely to cause dependency problems?
[11:57] <mike_> zipper: It shouldn't. Worst case scenario, they just won't get installed (step1: "sudo dpkg -i package1 package2..." if you get errors, then step 2: "sudo apt-get -f install")
[11:58] <sivaji2009> zipper mike_ ple help me i dont want to start "mail transport agent at boot time" how can i do this
[11:58] <mike_> Step 2 tries to install the uninstalled dependencies for the packages in step 1, and if they're not available, it just removes the packages in step 1
[11:58] <zipper> mike_: okay. Well sure, hit me. I'm not registered on this network, so cant send you a query/pm =/
[11:58] <zipper> sivaji2009: sorry, don't know
[11:58] <mike_> sivaji2009: Sorry, I only look like I know what I'm doing. I have absolutely no idea.
[11:59] <mike_> zipper: Same here
[11:59] <zipper> sivaji2009: my bet is that you want to look inside your /etc/init.d/ directory, but thats only a guess
[11:59] <mike_> Are you registered on any network?
[11:59] <zipper> well, quakenet doesnt require you to be registered
[12:00] <mike_> irc.quakenet.org?
[12:00] <zipper> i use a danish one... irc.dk.quakenet.eu.org
[12:00] <zipper> but uhm
[12:00] <zipper> dont worry too much about it
[12:00] <zipper> i mean
[12:00] <sivaji2009> zipper mike_  thank u
[12:01] <zipper> if i get your .deb files, then what about updating them?
[12:01] <mike_> zipper: Channel?
[12:01] <zipper> mike_: lets take #linux-stuffs
[12:14] <llp78> trying to empty the rubbish bin and getting "access denied to /home/lon/.local/share/files/pp/autom4te.cache/traces1"
[12:15] <mike_> Hobbsee: Are you around?
[12:17] <lxuser> Guten Morgen
[12:17] <BadRobot> thx zipper
[12:18] <lxuser> Ist hier jemand schon so wach, der mir helfen kann?
[12:18] <BadRobot> Guten Morgen lxuser Wie geht's dich?
[12:18] <lxuser> Sei weit noch gut !! Ich habe ein Problem. Seit dem Upgrade von 6.10 auf Kubuntu 7.04
[12:19] <BadRobot> I ch kann dich helfen ich spreche nichts zo viel deustch
[12:20] <lxuser> Beim Booten erscheint eine Maske in der ich meine Betriebssysteme aussuchen kann und dann geht es los mit dem booten. Seit dem letzten Kernelupdate jedoch wirdmeine Grub berschrieben statt HD 1,0 steht dort HD 0,0
[12:21] <thoreauputic> !de
[12:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:21] <_4strO> yop yop
[12:21] <lxuser> Nun muss ich jedesmal "e" drcken dann noch mal "e" HD 0,0 auf HD 1,0 ndern, entern und dann mit "b" fhrt der Rechner hoch.
[12:21] <BadRobot> Finally ubotu done something good
[12:22] <thoreauputic> lxuser: please /join #ubuntu-de or #kubuntu-de
[12:23] <lxuser> okay thank you ! and bye !
[12:25] <llp78> ive now removed the files from the rubbish bin using the shell - but now im getting an error everytime i empty the bin - saying the files i removed via the shell do not exist -
[12:26] <pag> llp78, with what command did you remove them in shell?
[12:27] <llp78> sudo rm -r
[12:27] <pag> just a guess, but did you remember to empty both ~/.local/share/Trash/info/ and ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ ?
[12:29] <llp78> pag: i forgot to empty the /info - problem is sorted thanks for your help
[12:30] <pag> np :)
[12:31] <Kittisak> bye
[12:46] <kraut> moin
[12:55] <jovans> is there a kernel update soon on feisty the current version  cause problems
[12:57] <sivaji2009> when boot my system i could see "mounting root file , loading kernel module ,starting sendmail transport agent etc "  i dont want to start sendmail agent how can i do this  i am not using this and it take long time to start
[01:06] <weedar> I have Vista installed, will Kubuntu be able to split the ntfs-partition?
[01:06] <pawitp> Not split, shrink
[01:06] <pawitp> You won't want to split up your windows parition
[01:06] <weedar> pawitp, I don't? :)
[01:07] <pawitp> You'll want to shrink the size of your windows partition
[01:07] <pawitp> And I'm pretty sure ubuntu can do it
[01:08] <sivaji> hi all
[01:08] <weedar> Maybe I should just give it a go, this is a new laptop anyway so I don't have much to lose :)
[01:08] <puppetmaster> hi everyone
[01:08] <puppetmaster> how can I setup winxp without losing ubuntu?
[01:09] <pawitp> puppetmaster Hmm I normally resize the ubuntu partition using the livecd, install xp on the empty partition and reconfigure grub
[01:09] <rraajj> puppetmaster: Install it on a different partition than the one Windows is using. :)
[01:09] <rraajj> *Windows -- Ubuntu
[01:09] <weedar> This is actually the first time I've tried Vista, I'm pleased to report that it is utter crap
[01:09] <puppetmaster> you don't understand?
[01:10] <sivaji> setup means
[01:10] <sivaji> puppetmaster
[01:10] <puppetmaster> I have now winxp and ubuntu
[01:10] <puppetmaster> but
[01:10] <puppetmaster> xp is finished
[01:10] <puppetmaster> so
[01:10] <puppetmaster> I want to remove xp
[01:11] <puppetmaster> & not to remove ubuntu
[01:11] <puppetmaster> but
[01:11] <puppetmaster> When I do that I'll have only xp
[01:11] <puppetmaster> Did you understanf me now?
[01:12] <sivaji> xp finished means
[01:12] <puppetmaster> means it's currupted
[01:12] <puppetmaster> it's not working well
[01:12] <sivaji> use qtparted and remove the partition where u have xp installed
[01:12] <weedar> just reinstall xp and use a boot-cd later to re-install grub
[01:13] <sivaji> u want do delete xp partitions now
[01:13] <puppetmaster> I know that but when I do that I'll have neither ubuntu nor windows
[01:14] <puppetmaster> how to reinstall grub
[01:14] <sivaji> weedar how to install grup loader separately
[01:14] <puppetmaster> I have now ubuuntu 7.04
[01:14] <sivaji> puppetmaster  u want do delete xp partitions now
[01:14] <puppetmaster> but firstly I had ubuntu 6,10 and I upgraded
[01:15] <puppetmaster> Is that a problem?
[01:15] <puppetmaster> SO
[01:16] <weedar> Well, if Ubuntu is installed you have grub installed already. If you boot from a ubuntu-cd later you can re-install grub
[01:16] <puppetmaster> from any version
[01:17] <puppetmaster> I have the 6.10 live cd
[01:18] <puppetmaster> but now I have 7.04 installed
[01:18] <puppetmaster> Could I use 6.10 to setup 7.04?
[01:18] <puppetmaster> The grub
[01:18] <weedar> sure
[01:18] <weedar> this might be helpful: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[01:19] <puppetmaster> I have a silly question/
[01:19] <puppetmaster> What do you think about suse 10.2?
[01:20] <sivaji2009> kubuntu is best forever
[01:20] <weedar> I haven't used suse in years, I hear good things - but I still think kubuntu is a better distro (or I wouldn't be here ;)
[01:20] <puppetmaster> you know something guys
[01:21] <sivaji2009> what
[01:21] <puppetmaster> I agree with you
[01:21] <puppetmaster> There was no such support like this in any destrib ever
[01:21] <puppetmaster> You are great realy
[01:22] <puppetmaster> But
[01:22] <puppetmaster> Most people prefer windows to linux and I disagree
[01:22] <puppetmaster> You know Why?
[01:23] <sivaji2009> puppetmaster because they are not coming forward to learn new thing
[01:23] <weedar> Because Windows is slow, insecure and buggy?
[01:23] <puppetmaster> because windows is easier that's what they said
[01:23] <puppetmaster> yes sure
[01:24] <puppetmaster> Linux is better in all the ways
[01:24] <puppetmaster> they don't know it yet
[01:24] <weedar> As long as your hardware is supported Kubuntu is usually easier to use than Windows
[01:24] <puppetmaster> Weeder
[01:24] <puppetmaster> about multimedia
[01:24] <puppetmaster> I have an issue
[01:24] <weedar> I setup a computer for my brother and in Windows you had to find the drivers for almost everything, after I installed Kubuntu everything worked out-of-the-box =)
[01:25] <puppetmaster> I can't play rmvb files
[01:25] <waylandbill> windows seems easier to people that only have used windows. That's natuarally the case with anything.
[01:25] <sivaji2009> weedar ple tell me how to install grup loader separately
[01:25] <weedar> I agree waylandbill
[01:25] <puppetmaster> I agree too
[01:25] <weedar> sivaji2009, did you read the link I pasted? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[01:25] <puppetmaster> they don't have an open mind
[01:26] <sivaji2009> sorry i didnt see i am chatting with someother person
[01:26] <puppetmaster> hey guys
[01:27] <puppetmaster> I have an important question
[01:27] <waylandbill> I built gtkpod from source (apt-get source) so that I could have m4v transfer support for my Ipod Video. Adept Notifier wants to use the distribution package rather than my package. Can I somehow tell Apt that I want my source built one always?
[01:27] <puppetmaster>  What do you prefer the most?
[01:27] <sivaji2009> !ask | puppetmaster
[01:27] <ubotu> puppetmaster: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:27] <puppetmaster> ok sorry
[01:27] <puppetmaster> Gnome or KDE
[01:28] <sivaji2009> kde
[01:28] <puppetmaster> Some guys say: windows users use kde & mac users use gnome
[01:28] <llp78> its personal opinion
[01:28] <puppetmaster> Why did you choose kde
[01:28] <waylandbill> That question is only important to the user of the system at the time and noone else really.
[01:29] <puppetmaster> ok guys
[01:29] <puppetmaster> thanks for the help
[01:29] <puppetmaster> I have to go>>>>Bye>>>>
[01:36] <tom__> aanyone played with virtualgl?
[01:41] <Sk-etch> \
[01:41] <Graham> Hey, I've got a problem with my monitor, I'm having trouble setting it up. For some reason the top of the monitor is darker than the bottom, it's an LCD samsung syncmaster 172v
[01:45] <mike_> Good morning, everybody
[01:45] <sivaji2009> how to check my processor speed
[01:46] <mike_> Can someone point me in the right direction for enabling my dial-up modem?
[01:46] <ompaul> !modem | mike_
[01:46] <ubotu> mike_: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[01:47] <ompaul> sivaji2009, Applications - Accessories - Terminal and in there type>>      less /proc/cpuinfo
[01:47] <mike_> I installed restricted-manager already, and the driver for it is installed and enabled, but it says it's "not in use"
[01:47] <llp78> sivaji2009: "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[01:47] <mike_> ompaul: Thanks
[01:48] <ompaul> mike_, System Administration Network and click on your modem and say enable device
[01:48] <llp78> sivaji2009: or "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name'"
[01:48] <sivaji2009> cpu MHz         : 1004.826  but my speed is 2.8Ghz
[01:49] <ompaul> sivaji2009, so it is cpu scaling you got a few to go :)
[01:49] <ompaul> sivaji2009, i.e. it is like an F1 car on a tight bend - not running flat out
[01:49] <llp78> talking of f1 whens it on today
[01:50] <llp78> must go n check
[01:50] <sivaji2009> ompaul thank u
[01:50] <thoreauputic> hi ompaul :)
[01:50] <ompaul> sivaji2009, you are welcome
[01:52] <mike_> ompaul: In KControl, that would be Internet & Network -> Network Settings, right? (Sorry, I don't use the regular System Settings tool and have consequently lost the command for it)
[01:52] <ompaul> mike_, sorry I did not notice I was in kubuntu ... ;-)
[01:52] <ompaul> mike_, ya it would be in that region
[01:52] <mike_> ompaul: No problem :-)
[01:52] <mike_> ompaul: It's not listed there
[01:53] <mike_> My modem, I mean
[01:53] <sivaji2009> ompaul  i have grub loader boot file in floppy disk  i think it is better to have a backup but i cant copy one file from floppy disk to hd
[01:53] <jono> heh
[01:53] <ompaul> jono, please it is hehe :)
[01:53] <mike_> modem isn't in /dev either. -_~
[01:53] <weedar> Anyone feel like recommending how big I should make my linux partition?
[01:54] <ompaul> mike_, hmm ain't done a modem in a lonnnnng time
[01:54] <ompaul> all ethernet these days
[01:54] <mike_> Same here. (Setting up my grandmother's laptop)
[01:54] <sivaji2009> ompaul i have grub loader boot file in floppy disk  i think it is better to have a backup but i cant copy one file from floppy disk to hd
[01:55] <ompaul> !grub | sivaji2009
[01:55] <ubotu> sivaji2009: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:55] <ompaul> sivaji2009, that is the best I can do
[01:55] <ompaul> I have to do a little job here back soon
[01:55] <mike_> weedar: Depends on how much stuff you want on it. I'd suggest 6GB at the very least
[01:56] <mike_> weedar: If you plan on installing a lot of games and other programs that take up a lot of memory, maybe somewhere more in the neighborhood of 10GB
[01:56] <mike_> space*
[01:56] <birdofprey> hello everybody. I'd like to install kubuntu and dual boot between windows. as I understand there's no way to launch kubuntu from the windows bootloader. The other way arround I'd need to play with my master boot sector. I can't backup all my data right now so... this option is not viable right now. I came up with an idea though. Is there a way to modify GRUB on a rewritable cd so that it boots kubuntu installed on a certain partition ?
[01:56] <llutz> hi
[01:56] <drkns> hello hows everyone
[01:56] <weedar> mike_, in that case I think I'll go for 10GB. I tend to underestimate how much space I need when installing Kubuntu :)
[01:57] <drkns> neither amarok nor kaffein wants to start it just jumps up and down and nothing
[01:57] <drkns> they both used to work
[01:57] <drkns> whats wrong counld someone helppls
[01:57] <llutz> birdofprey: win-bootloader can boot grub
[01:57] <mike_> weedar: If you're tight on space, you might consider replacing OpenOffice w/ KOffice. That takes off about a quarter gig.
[01:57] <rraajj> drkns: Try running them using the command line. There should be something wrong.
[01:58] <drkns> how should i just write their names?
[01:58] <rraajj> drkns: You could go paste in one of 'em pastebins the error that the konsole would output.
[01:58] <rraajj> drkns: Yep, just type kaffeine or amarok.
[01:58] <rraajj> drkns: Then take note of the console output.
[01:59] <llutz> birdofprey: install kubuntu, let install grub into root-partition. copy the partition-bootrecord to your win-installation and modify the boot.ini. more info on google or forums
[02:00] <drkns> well nothing happens
[02:00] <rraajj> drkns: No output or anything?
[02:00] <drkns> it just moved to the scond line and nothing very interesting
[02:00] <drkns> no out put
[02:00] <drkns> both amarok and kaffein
[02:01] <drkns> also mplayer as well
[02:01] <rraajj> drkns: Wow. That's... Weird.
[02:01] <drkns> thats really weird
[02:01] <llp78> i take it video output works ok?
[02:02] <rraajj> drkns: Try removing then reinstalling them, then.
[02:02] <drkns> but when i remove em it also removes kde
[02:02] <drkns> and i dont wanna mess with KDE
[02:02] <rraajj> drkns: You mean kubuntu-desktop?
[02:02] <birdofprey> llutz from what I've read, ms made sure it's bootloader won't boot grub... copying the partition bootrecor ? how ? wouldn't it be more _secure_ to have grub on cd and the rest of ubuntu on the hdd ?
[02:02] <drkns> yep
[02:03] <rraajj> drkns: kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, it's okay to remove it.
[02:03] <llutz> birdofprey: you can do it that way, but windows versions up to XP can boot it like described too
[02:03] <weedar> mike_, thanks for the tips
[02:03] <rraajj> drkns: You could remove kaffeine and amarok, then reinstall them using: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.
[02:03] <mike_> weedar: No problem
[02:03] <llutz> birdofprey: no idea what vista does, never had seen/used one
[02:03] <drkns> i am not an experienced user i once removed it and had to reinstall everything
[02:04] <birdofprey> i'm not talking about vista, i'm talking about xp, and I read, that the windows bootloader won't properly chainload grub
[02:04] <drkns> i will try removing amarok lets do it then
[02:04] <llutz> birdofprey: to copy the bootrecord: let's say your root-partition = /dev/hda5, then: dd if=/dev/hda5 of=/tmp/bootrecord count=1
[02:04] <drkns> thx
[02:05] <mike_> weedar: Probably obvious, but installing any GNOME apps is going to take a lot more space than installing the KDE equivalent. Not sure exactly how much space the essential GNOME/GTK libs take up, but I'd image it's quite a bit
[02:06] <payam> how can i install that Fucking Wine?
[02:06] <rraajj> payam: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[02:06] <mike_> sudo apt-get install wine
[02:06] <sivaji2009> how to find my root partition
[02:06] <mike_> payam: Run that from a terminal
[02:06] <payam> Thanks
[02:06] <weedar> mike_, that I did not know :) I would've thought KDE-apps were more diskspace-hungry
[02:07] <payam> How can I install a WEbcamera on kubuntu?
[02:07] <llutz> birdofprey:  you read wrong :) xp does well that way
[02:07] <birdofprey> llutz, I have only a few hours of linux behind me, and I think it's sda5 in my case. anyhow, sounds too risky
[02:07] <simon__> how do i mount a usb drive with ntfs file system thyanks
[02:08] <llutz> birdofprey: it's not that dangerous, but you still have to be carefull
[02:08] <payam> mike_, How can i install a webcamera on my kubuntu?
[02:08] <mike_> Maybe on an app-by-app basis, but if you only have KDE installed, installing one single GNOME/GTK app is going to take up a lot of space because it has to have all of those libs
[02:08] <sivaji2009> simon__ usb drive will be mounted automatically
[02:08] <mike_> payam: Sorry, I have no experience with webcams. Have you searched the forums?
[02:08] <payam> Yes
[02:08] <payam> Im realy tierd av it
[02:08] <simon__> it does mount but is not shown in any file folder
[02:08] <sivaji2009> payam try #ubuntu
[02:09] <payam> I dont understans beacuas im a bigginer
[02:09] <mike_> payam: You might try googling the brand and model # of your webcam and "ubuntu"
[02:09] <payam> I just realy tierd . nobody know how to Installa a webcam
[02:09] <rraajj> payam: I think Kopete has support for a variety of webcams. (at least, I think)
[02:09] <sivaji2009> payam "/join #ubuntu"
[02:09] <llutz> birdofprey: do you use floppy disks? then there is a very easy method to boot grub from that (easier than cd-burning)
[02:09] <payam> I just wana take pictures of myself bot ubuntu
[02:10] <payam> I dont wana chatt with that by  kopete
[02:11] <rraajj> payam: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras?highlight=%28camera%29%7C%28web%29
[02:12] <birdofprey> llutz no I don't even have a floppy drive. i'm right now googling the posibility of using boot.ini to load ubuntu...
[02:12] <payam> rraajj, i saw that list. my cam is
[02:12] <payam> Logitech
[02:12] <payam>    QuickCam Pro 4000
[02:12] <payam> But how can i installa Derive for it
[02:13] <payam> what should i do to begin use it?
[02:13] <rraajj> Here is the entry for QuickCam Pro 4000: "Works out of the box on 6.06, 6.10 and 7.04, just need a program like Camorama etc. to use it. "
[02:13] <birdofprey> llutz, what difference it would make ? floppy, cd... they are both just removable bootable media...
[02:13] <rraajj> payam: Try installing camorama, then. sudo apt-get install camorama
[02:14] <mike_> ompaul: Are you still in here?
[02:15] <llutz> birdofprey: its easier (imho) to bring the bootrecord to floppy than to cd.
[02:15] <llutz> birdofprey: maybe this helps: http://jaeger.morpheus.net/linux/ntldr.php
[02:15] <ompaul> mike_, kind of - rather busy trying to make something work
[02:15] <payam> rraajj, shoul i  download .Deb file or that isnt a matter?
[02:16] <nbcb> is there a partitioner in kubuntu that is graphical?
[02:16] <rraajj> payam: camorama is in the repos. You could just issue a "sudo apt-get install camorama" to install it.
[02:16] <nbcb> harddisk partition
[02:16] <sivaji2009> nbcb qtparted
[02:16] <payam> rraajj. I dont undrastan what you mena
[02:16] <sivaji2009> nbcb "sudo aptitude install qtparted"
[02:16] <llutz> birdofprey: "sudo dd if=/dev/sda5 of=/dev/fd0 count=1"  and a floppy would be ready. but useless without floppy-drive :(
[02:17] <payam> Shouk i download it?
[02:17] <rraajj> payam: Oh, sorry... Go open up a terminal.
[02:17] <payam> ok
[02:17] <nbcb> i need to install windows, i've got 2 harddisk.. now i'm on kubuntu.. can i install the windows on the 2nd harddisk?
[02:17] <rraajj> Then type "sudo apt-get install camorama"
[02:17] <payam> and?
[02:17] <hammer> i'm a DJ  cat /dev/input/mouse0  >> /dev/dsp
[02:17] <main2> after my system comes out of standby, it sometimes goes into standby again (after it fulyl came back to the desktop)
[02:17] <Chousuke> hammer: :P
[02:17] <main2> is this a known problem?
[02:17] <rraajj> If it asks you for a password, just type in your password and press enter.
[02:17] <sivaji2009> nbcb no i it will replace grub loader u cant linux
[02:17] <sivaji2009> nbcb no i it will replace grub loader u cant use linux
[02:17] <payam> I know that
[02:18] <weedar> main2, I've always had trouble with standby-mode & linux :/
[02:18] <nbcb> i thought grub is on the first harddisk?
[02:18] <nbcb> o
[02:18] <payam> and then?
[02:18] <main2> weedar, well.. you need to tweak it a bit some times to get it working properly :)
[02:18] <weedar> hammer: nice =)
[02:18] <main2> thats why im asking wether there is a remedy to stop it from going into standby twice
[02:18] <sivaji2009> nbcb grub will be replaced by windows loader
[02:18] <rraajj> payam: Just say yes (if it prompts you), then enter. Then wait until it is finished.
[02:18] <payam> rraajj, and then?
[02:19] <weedar> main2, on my previous laptop the touchpad would stop working, guess I could have fixed it somehow
[02:19] <sivaji2009> nbcb https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:19] <payam> its finish
[02:19] <nbcb> can i install grub again using kubuntu live cd?
[02:19] <main2> yes
[02:19] <main2> nbcb,
[02:19] <sivaji2009> nbcb https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:19] <main2> start the livecd
[02:19] <rraajj> payam: Try running camorama now. If I'm not mistaken, it should be under the "Multimedia" menu.
[02:19] <mike_> !grub > nbcb
[02:19] <main2> nbcb, i done it number of times
[02:19] <mike_> err
[02:19] <mike_> !grub
[02:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:19] <rraajj> payam: Either there, or under "Graphics".
[02:19] <nbcb> ./dev/hda4              33G   22G  9.6G  70% /usr <-- can i change this /usr into /dev/hda3 instead?
[02:19] <llutz> main2: that often happens when suspening on lid-close and the acpi-event isn't recognized correct
[02:20] <payam> whats the name?
[02:20] <rraajj> payam: Camorama.
[02:20] <mike_> nbcb: It walks you through it on one of those
[02:20] <main2> llutz, im talking about a desktop here.. :)
[02:20] <llutz> main2: then pressing the power-button is intrepreted as: go to standby :(
[02:20] <main2> imho every kubu install should have kpowersave installed btw..
[02:20] <payam> Graphic menu
[02:20] <llutz> main2: happens with suspend on pwr-btn too
[02:20] <rraajj> payam: Found it yet?
[02:20] <payam> yes
[02:20] <rraajj> payam: Okay, you could try it now. :)
[02:21] <main2> llutz, i got suspend under my powerbutton yes
[02:21] <main2> suspend to ram (s3)
[02:23] <birdofprey> llutz, i need to learn about it first. the main problem is that I understand only about half or less of those comands... i'm running xp now... i'm glad it can be done... i need good documentation before though...
[02:24] <Panda200x> http://wubuntu.weejewel.net/ < Anyone seen this yet?
[02:24] <main2> llutz,  seems like a lot of users need to disable 'save vbe state' and 'post video' to get S3 standby working
[02:25] <main2> this wasnt nessacary on my 64bit feisty install :P, weird huh
[02:25] <llutz> main2: linux + suspending is a .... neverending story. there's hardware suspending out of the box and other never will (like mine) :(
[02:25] <main2> but the 'system goes back into standy after if fully resumed' problem was the same
[02:26] <llutz> main2: for your issue: try not to hold the pwr-btn pressed too long when resuming
[02:26] <main2> llutz, i feel like im soooo close ;D
[02:26] <llutz> main2: i felt that close years ago, never reached
[02:26] <main2> llutz, i just very gently touch it..
[02:27] <main2> llutz, would be very cool if i can use it.. when i go get a coffee/ stay away for 15min, its more profitable to use standby
[02:27] <main2> then to turn it on/off
[02:27] <llutz> main2: sure it is
[02:27] <main2> support the climate, support S3 standby! ;D
[02:28] <llutz> support the climate, switch OFF!
[02:28] <puppetmaster> Hi everyone
[02:28] <puppetmaster> When I tried to install gstreamer
[02:28] <main2> llutz, im using up all energy i can atm, because we're running out of oil anyway
[02:28] <main2> and it gets more expensive by the minute
[02:28] <main2> :P
[02:28] <puppetmaster> it gives me this message:Could not find bison
[02:28] <puppetmaster> Could not find bisonWhat should I do/
[02:28] <chris__> what is the best FTP client?
[02:29] <chris__> there areso much around...
[02:29] <puppetmaster> SO
[02:29] <main2> vsftp
[02:29] <main2> o client, sorry
[02:29] <llutz> chris__: lftp
[02:30] <chris__> alright
[02:30] <chris__> thanks
[02:30] <puppetmaster> Please anyone help
[02:30] <llutz> chris__: but even konqueror works well with ftp
[02:30] <chris__> really?
[02:31] <chris__> mykonqerro refuses to browse the web anyway...
[02:31] <chris__> lot of people seem to have this problem
[02:31] <llutz> chris__: with the kio-slaves konqueror does nearly everthing :)
[02:31] <puppetmaster> SO
[02:31] <birdofprey> llutz, thank you
[02:32] <llutz> birdofprey: np, in that  link i gave you, just the last part is usefull for you. but that describes all you need to do
[02:32] <chris__> filezilla?
[02:32] <llutz> birdofprey: forget about all that lilo-stuff
[02:33] <chris__> i used to use this when i was a M$ geek
[02:33] <llutz> chris__: then go on using it
[02:34] <birdofprey> llutz, I know, people are working on the next version of grub already... so, soon I could forget about GRUB too..
[02:35] <llutz> birdofprey: you always will need a type of bootmanager on multi-boot-systems
[02:36] <birdofprey> llutz, of course I will... what I meant is that's going to be GRUB 2 in the future...
[02:37] <llutz> birdofprey: but what do you hope grub2 does, grub doesn't?
[02:38] <hendaus> sivaji2009 wb
[02:38] <chris__> anyone knows how to completely format the HD's
[02:39] <chris__> when installing linux it keeps a part in m$ system files...
[02:39] <birdofprey> well, anything. you said I should forget about lilo. i just added, I know i should, it's old, and ubuntu uses grub anyhow. but grub is starting to show it's age aswell since grub2 is a work in progress already.
[02:41] <sivaji2009> hendaus hi
[02:41] <llutz> birdofprey: ah i c. forgetting lilo was in reference to that url.
[02:41] <hendaus> sivaji2009 hoiw are you
[02:42] <sivaji2009>  hendaus fine come to yahoo
[02:48] <ardchoille> Back in a bit, time to image this hard drive :)
[02:49] <main2> can i use suspension/standby without kpowersave?
[02:49] <PF-Away> main2: I believe so
[02:50] <sfire> I believe so also... don't quote me on it though
[02:50] <main2> lol.. but how do i tell the acpi system that my powerbt should be used for 'suspend to ram' (s3) then?
[02:51] <optix> hmm - anyone ever seen Kubuntu "misread" a ping result?
[02:51] <main2> optix, what do you mean?
[02:51] <PF-Away> main2: that you might have to use kpowersave for
[02:51] <PF-Away> optix: explain
[02:51] <PF-Away> dhcp-fallback-wise?
[02:51] <optix> I have 2 machines - one is an Intel Mac Mini
[02:51] <optix> and the other one is a Dell laptop running Feisty
[02:51] <main2> PF-Away, after my system fully resumes from standby -> i can use it, then 2sec later it goes in standby again
[02:52] <optix> the Mac Mini can reach x destination in 50ms
[02:52] <PF-Away> funny
[02:52] <main2> then when i press my power button again, it comes back........ fully
[02:52] <optix> yet the Kubuntu laptop gets to the same destination in 150ms
[02:52] <optix> everything is the same (same 4 port router, etc.)
[02:52] <main2> the /etc/acpi/suspend.d scripts use a lock in /var/lock/
[02:52] <main2> but kpowersave doesnt seem to do so :/
[02:53] <optix> I'm wondering what could cause that
[02:54] <PF-Away> optix: try with different flags on the ping
[02:54] <PF-Away> -r maybe, to bypass the routing table
[02:54] <optix> network is unreachable :(
[02:54] <kain_> any good apache/php packages for kubuntu
[02:55] <PF-Away> !info apache2 | kain_
[02:55] <ubotu> kain_: apache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3.2build1 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 84 kB
[02:55] <kain_> something that looks like xampp on win xp/longhorn for kubuntu
[02:55] <PF-Away> !info php5 | kain_
[02:55] <ubotu> kain_: php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.1-0ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
[02:55] <PF-Away> kain_: what do you mean?
[02:55] <kain_> xampp.org
[02:55] <kain_> lampp
[02:56] <PF-Away> kain_: just install what you need
[02:57] <weedar> you don't need xampp on linux, at least not kubuntu - getting a lamp-setup is easy as pie
[02:58] <PF-Away> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-lamp-server-setup.html
[03:00] <kain_> ok well then how do i install on kubuntu 7.4 and start the services and set then up to run on boot i just switched to linux/kubuntu 7.4 from longhorn on a new laptop that ran like shit now it runs seriously 10 times faster with kubuntu
[03:01] <kain_> i don't need any sql or anything else
[03:02] <sfire> see the above link
[03:02] <kain_> but when i switch my server over i will need mail etc for several domains and dns server etc
[03:02] <sfire> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-lamp-server-setup.html
[03:03] <PF-Away> kain_: if you want to install a webserver, install "apache2" in Adept
[03:03] <PF-Away> kain_: it will be configured automatically/should be
[03:03] <PF-Away> PF-Away: install php5 for php support
[03:19] <epimeth> PF-Away: don't you need to install apache-mod-libphp5 as well?  (or something like it)
[03:19] <PF-Away> epimeth: I thought it got installed automagically, but I might be wrong, as I use Lighttpd
[03:19] <PF-Away> (which I wholeheartedly recommend, btw)
[03:19] <PF-Away> much smaller footprint, and a breeze to set up
[03:20] <sfire> apache isn't all *that* hard
[03:20] <PF-Away> but it's all *that* heavy;)
[03:21] <PF-Away> I don't care for a full-blown apache install just to do some web-app developing;)
[03:33] <main2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/119696
[03:36] <kain_> all i do is web developing
[03:36] <main2> uhhhh yes, and?
[03:37] <kain_> i haven't a lot lately because of my other job and my back is fucked and i just switched to kubuntu and still can't get my wifi to connect to open networks in some places
[03:37] <kain_> trying to get my phone to work with linux as a wi-fi modem
[03:37] <kain_> i hate windows
[03:38] <kain_> switching my pda to linux is my last step is completely severing myself from windows
[03:38] <main2> kain_, looks like you got some serious problems bro
[03:39] <kain_> it sucks when other people put you in pain for life
[03:39] <waylandbill> I have a t-shirt that says "I don't do Windows".
[03:40] <kain_> nice
[03:40] <waylandbill> I can't say that I particularly hate Windows. Prefer not to use it is probably more accurate.
[03:41] <main2> waylandbill, same here :)
[03:42] <PF-Away> I don't like it either, but I have to know it;)
[03:42] <PF-Away> and that sucks more than enough;)
[03:42] <ardchoille> waylandbill: I'm happy to say that I hate Windows with a passion. If I can't use Linux on a computer (either installed or livecd), then I won't use that computer :)
[03:43] <PF-Away> I'm just waiting for the day when Microsoft collapses/implodes, and Windows knowledge will be a thing of the past;)
[03:43] <ardchoille> Indeed
[03:44] <masterk> hi, i'm a nooblet... I need help
[03:44] <PF-Away> and with their frantic patent huffing and puffing, it seems they know it's coming soon;)
[03:44] <ardchoille> lol @ nooblet
[03:44] <PF-Away> masterk: ask, and I will answer (or someone else)
[03:44] <masterk> I need to figure out how to make my computer run faster
[03:44] <PF-Away> masterk: use Xubuntu
[03:45] <masterk> I am running a p3 processor
[03:45] <PF-Away> masterk: or use Arch Linux
[03:45] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, why so hateful... windows works ok, it's just not real secure ...linux works better when you get it right of course , but i don't understand the ' hate ' thing.
[03:45] <ardchoille> masterk: You might look into using a light window manager instead of a full desktop.. doing this made my old PII run quite fast. For more window managers, see:  http://xwinman.org
[03:45] <masterk> I used xubuntu on my old laptop, it did run quite well
[03:45] <PF-Away> BluesKaj: it's eveel
[03:46] <wsjunior> does anybody know instructions to configure tv-out for ati cards?
[03:46] <masterk> yes but I just love kde
[03:46] <PF-Away> !gatos
[03:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:46] <BluesKaj> wsjunior, tv out ?
[03:46] <wsjunior> i'm using fglrx
[03:46] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: If M$ knew how to respect people and follow the law, I wouldn't be so hateful ;)
[03:46] <BluesKaj> what's the tv tuner
[03:46] <BluesKaj> ?
[03:46] <wsjunior> yes, i want to configure the svideo
[03:47] <sfire> ardchoille: they will respect you... if you have a billion or 2 to spend
[03:47] <masterk> thanks I'll look into the window managers
[03:47] <ardchoille> lol
[03:47] <BluesKaj> which tv tuner are you using wsjunior?
[03:47] <PF-Away> BluesKaj: don't need a tv-tuner for tv out
[03:47] <wsjunior> to watch movies on tv,, tv out dude, something like twin view for nvidia cards
[03:47] <PF-Away> (in/out)
[03:48] <PF-Away> wsjunior: what kind of card do you have?
[03:48] <wsjunior> ati xpress 200M
[03:48] <fshero> If Windows were Free/open source, I would support it.
[03:48] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: http://imacgregor.com/Linux/WhatIsLinux#toc6
[03:48] <fshero> lol, that'll won't happen for a long time, if ever
[03:48] <PF-Away> wsjunior: if it isn't set up automagically, you could try to follow this guide: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_TV-Out
[03:48] <PF-Away> it's for gentoo, but I don't think it's that different
[03:49] <wsjunior> lets see if it cover ati cards..
[03:49] <masterk> hi, my friend is like really noob, like me... she has vista on her laptop but vista makes her laptop run slow and she can't install XP on her laptop because there are no XP drivers for her hardware... what should she do? switch to linux or...?
[03:49] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, i don't need to read that, I already know that linux stuff is free
[03:49] <PF-Away> masterk: of course;)
[03:49] <sfire> there are always XP drivers
[03:49] <sfire> not to discurage you from linux
[03:49] <PF-Away> masterk: try a LiveCD to see if the hardware is supported
[03:50] <masterk> I seriously tried to find the xp drivers for the wireless and couldn't find any
[03:50] <sfire> they exist
[03:50] <PF-Away> sfire: how so?
[03:50] <sfire> but you'll have the same problem with linux
[03:50] <PF-Away> sfire: not so
[03:50] <waylandbill> I have Xpress 200M. Just follow the Binary how-to.
[03:50] <sfire> you have to have the windows drivers to get the wireless card to work in linux
[03:51] <PF-Away> sfire: bullcrap
[03:51] <PF-Away> masterk: don't listen to sfire
[03:51] <PF-Away> sfire: there's lots of native drivers for linux
[03:51] <sfire> thats how mine is... dell inspiron 640m
[03:51] <masterk> acer 3600 is her laptop
[03:51] <PF-Away> sfire: if there isn't any native linux drivers, you can use the windows drivers
[03:51] <masterk> no 3680
[03:51] <dazjorz> Heh
[03:51] <PF-Away> masterk: as I said, try a live c
[03:51] <PF-Away> d
[03:52] <wsjunior> waylandbill: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_TV-Out#ATI-proprietary-drivers
[03:52] <wsjunior> waylandbill: thanks :)
[03:52] <dazjorz> Are the Canonical people planning to make a Kedubuntu anytime soon? :P
[03:52] <masterk> so maybe I should try knoppix or kubuntus live mode?
[03:52] <wsjunior> dazjorz: don't think so
[03:52] <PF-Away> masterk: yeah, or plain ubuntu
[03:53] <PF-Away> masterk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=392666
[03:53] <PF-Away> masterk: is that the same as hers?
[03:55] <masterk> pf-away: yes but my worry is that shes not as tech savy as I am soshe might give up on linux after a while
[03:55] <PF-Away> masterk: from what I see, it should work rather perfectly
[03:55] <sfire> my GF liked it for a while
[03:55] <PF-Away> masterk: just set it up, and it will run forever (more or less;)
[03:55] <sfire> until she got took some online college classes
[03:56] <PF-Away> I set up plain ubuntu (6.06) for a girl here about a year ago, and she's still happily using it
[03:56] <PF-Away> on a laptop
[03:56] <masterk> ok do you think I can do it in 2 hours time?
[03:56] <PF-Away> her ipod, text documents, everything worked just fine
[03:56] <PF-Away> masterk: yes
[03:56] <masterk> with downloading time?
[03:56] <masterk> and install?
[03:57] <PF-Away> masterk: hmm... more doubtfull
[03:57] <PF-Away> ;)
[03:57] <PF-Away> depends on your pipe
[03:57] <sfire> got FiOS?
[03:57] <masterk> no, I wish
[03:57] <masterk> if she did I would sleep on her roof
[03:57] <sfire> hehehehe
[03:57] <PF-Away> :P
[03:57] <sfire> I've got it at home
[03:58] <binks> afternoon all
[03:58] <masterk> so how do I burn iso in linux?
[03:58] <sfire> K3B
[03:58] <PF-Away> K-Menu -> Multimedia -> K3B
[03:58] <binks> anyone had problems with amarok not loading i did a reinstall but still the same (fiesty btw)
[03:58] <PF-Away> no
[03:58] <binks> !iso
[03:58] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:59] <amin81> hi everyone!
[03:59] <binks> masterk: | !burning
[03:59] <amin81> need help, I cannot get online with my comp
[03:59] <amin81> when using linuz
[03:59] <amin81> linux
[03:59] <sfire> amin81: wireless?
[03:59] <PF-Away> amin81: modem, adsl...?
[03:59] <masterk> which is edge?
[03:59] <masterk> number wise?
[03:59] <amin81> sfire no
[04:00] <PF-Away> masterk: 6.10?
[04:00] <binks> amin81: static or dhcp
[04:00] <amin81> PF-Away: lan connection
[04:00] <PF-Away> amin81: dhcp?
[04:00] <amin81> PF-Away: yes
[04:00] <amin81> PF-Away: or hold on, I think it is static. not sure
[04:01] <amin81> PF-Away: Rysiek knows about my problem
[04:01] <masterk> I see downloads for dapper and feisty only
[04:01] <masterk> no edgy
[04:01] <PF-Away> [16:04]  [Error]  rysiek: No such nick/channel.
[04:01] <PF-Away> masterk: why do you want edgy?
[04:01] <sfire> /whowas rysiek
[04:01] <amin81> PF-Away: He managed to help me get online but now the internetprovider has changed the router
[04:02] <PF-Away> [16:04]  [406]  rysiek There was no such nickname
[04:02] <masterk> because the guide is for edgy
[04:02] <amin81> PF-Away: so all the numbers have changed such as bcast, inet etc
[04:02] <PF-Away> amin81: do you know the ip, etc. of the router?
[04:02] <amin81> PF-Away: I have found some numbers such as inet addre, Bcast, mask and default gateway
[04:03] <PF-Away> amin81: the ones for the new router settings?
[04:03] <amin81> PF-Away: yes
[04:04] <PF-Away> amin81: go to System Settings -> Network Settings, click on administrator button
[04:05] <amin81> PF-Away: I will give you the old command we wrote in network interfaces
[04:05] <PF-Away> ah, ok
[04:06] <amin81> PF-Away: where can I post it`
[04:06] <PF-Away> !paste | amin81
[04:06] <ubotu> amin81: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:06] <amin81> PF-Away: thank you
[04:07] <sp1n> anybody know feisty repository with trix (chat client)?
[04:08] <amin81> PF-Away: here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24993/
[04:09] <amin81> PF-Away: I tried to make my own one but it wont let me get online
[04:09] <amin81> let me post that also
[04:09] <PF-Away> amin81: is that a script?
[04:10] <amin81> PF-Away: dont ask me, all I know is that line got me online before :) (sorry, linux noob)
[04:10] <sfire> I think I see why
[04:10] <sfire> you use 2 different networks right?
[04:10] <PF-Away> amin81: why not just use the default tools?
[04:10] <masterk> how do I create folders via prompt?
[04:10] <amin81> sfire: no
[04:10] <amin81> sfire: that line worked before
[04:10] <sfire> hmmm... then I'm clueless
[04:10] <PF-Away> masterk: mkdir
[04:11] <PF-Away> amin81: where did you get what you pasted from?
[04:11] <amin81> sfire: now the internetprovider has changed the router because the old router was not fast enough
[04:11] <amin81> sfire: so all the numbers have also changed
[04:11] <masterk> thanks
[04:11] <sfire> amin81: your new router is a 192.168.1 network? or 192.168.0 ?
[04:11] <amin81> sfire: no that is my old router
[04:11] <amin81> the new numbers are different
[04:11] <sfire> and I'm asking about the new one
[04:12] <amin81> 10.11.0.254
[04:12] <sfire> ahhhh ha
[04:12] <amin81> i think
[04:12] <sfire> what make/model router?
[04:12] <masterk> how do I delete directories via prompt?
[04:12] <sfire> rm -rf /directory/name/
[04:12] <amin81> sfire: i dont know as it is not my router
[04:12] <amin81> sfire: it is the internetprovider's
[04:13] <PhinnFort> bleh... knetworkmanager
[04:13] <PhinnFort> amin81: it doesn't use dhcp?
[04:13] <PhinnFort> amin81: go to system settings -> network settings
[04:15] <wsjunior> who said got tv-out working on ati xpress 200m?
[04:15] <amin81> PhinnFort: ok
[04:15] <amin81> PhinnFort: then?
[04:15] <PhinnFort> amin81: then click on the administrator button
[04:15] <PhinnFort> so you get administrator access
[04:15] <wsjunior> i configured like gentoo wiki said but still didnt got it working :/
[04:15] <wsjunior> just a blue screen on tv
[04:15] <amin81> PhinnFort: done
[04:15] <PhinnFort> amin81: what is eth0 set as?
[04:16] <PhinnFort> amin81: automatic or static?
[04:16] <amin81> automatic
[04:16] <sfire> do you have a eth1 ?
[04:16] <PhinnFort> amin81: and the router doesn't have dhcp enabled?
[04:16] <PhinnFort> sfire: his wireless
[04:16] <amin81> sfire: yes but not using it
[04:16] <Kozzi> cam some1 help to install this : http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDesktop+transparency+support?content=59864
[04:16] <Kozzi> ?
[04:16] <PhinnFort> amin81: what IP-address is currently assigned to eth0?
[04:16] <sfire> my computer came with 2 ethernet interfaces built onboard... possibly his does too?
[04:16] <amin81> 10.11.0.245
[04:17] <amin81> PhinnFort: why do you need that?
[04:17] <PhinnFort> amin81: to know what subnet it is assigned to
[04:17] <amin81> PhinnFort: ok
[04:17] <PhinnFort> amin81: do you know the IP of the router?
[04:17] <PhinnFort> is it 10.11.0.1?
[04:17] <hydh> hi i have to compile something and gcc complains that socket.h could not be found? what should i do know?
[04:17] <amin81> PhinnFort: i dont think so
[04:17] <PhinnFort> amin81: are you behind that router on your current machine?
[04:18] <wsjunior> could anybody help me to get tv-out working?
[04:18] <amin81> PhinnFort: i tried to ping that address without success
[04:18] <PhinnFort> (the one you are chatting from?)
[04:18] <amin81> PhinnFort: yes
[04:18] <PhinnFort> amin81: is it a windows machine?
[04:18] <amin81> PhinnFort: yes
[04:18] <PhinnFort> amin81: run "ipconfig /all" in a cmd
[04:18] <PhinnFort> shell
[04:18] <binks> anyone no how to debug amarok to check why it fails to start up
[04:18] <PhinnFort> win+r, type "cmd", hit enter
[04:19] <PhinnFort> binks: run it from a konsole?
[04:19] <binks> i did it hangs with no output
[04:19] <amin81> PhinnFort: what numbers do you need?
[04:19] <PhinnFort> binks: try running amarokapp
[04:19] <PhinnFort> amin81: does it say gateway?
[04:19] <binks> PhinnFort: arr cheers
[04:19] <amin81> PhinnFort: standard?
[04:19] <PhinnFort> yeah
[04:20] <PhinnFort> amin81: also the IP would be nice
[04:20] <amin81> PhinnFort: yes, 10.11.0.254
[04:20] <PhinnFort> amin81: on the KUbuntu machine, go to the routes tab and see what's there
[04:20] <amin81> PhinnFort: 0.0.0.0
[04:21] <PhinnFort> amin81: replace it with "10.11.0.254"
[04:21] <PhinnFort> amin81: then hit apply and try to connect to internet
[04:21] <PhinnFort> konqueror or something
[04:21] <binks> PhinnFort: this is the error i get but im no hack any ideas http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24994/
[04:22] <amin81> PhinnFort: i will have to log off for a while, brb
[04:22] <PhinnFort> amin81: ok
[04:22] <PhinnFort> binks: it seems to start okay
[04:22] <binks> i get no amarok at all
[04:22] <PhinnFort> binks: but I need to go soon (it's getting very hot here, so I need to turn off my computer and go outside, once amin81 has his network working)
[04:22] <PhinnFort> :D
[04:22] <PhinnFort> binks: try asking in #kde
[04:23] <sfire> binks: did it work before?
[04:23] <binks> PhinnFort: me real real bad its started but in the tray sorry
[04:23] <PhinnFort> might be more knowledgeable people in there
[04:23] <binks> PhinnFort: thanks again
[04:23] <PhinnFort> np
[04:23] <sfire> binks: when it quit working for me I just deleted its configuration file
[04:23] <sfire> when it re-created it, it worked fine
[04:24] <binks> where is the config file sfire
[04:24] <PhinnFort> binks: .kde/share/apps/amarok
[04:24] <binks> PhinnFort: cheers
[04:24] <sfire> /home/username/.kde/share/config
[04:24] <PhinnFort> or there
[04:24] <PhinnFort> amarokrc
[04:25] <binks> i got what you meant :)
[04:26] <PhinnFort> meh... too hot
[04:26] <sfire> he must be in florida also
[04:26] <sfire> lol
[04:27] <DexterF> heya
[04:27] <masterk> how do I open a udf cd?
[04:27] <DexterF> I just installed baghira to have its sidebar, but I'd like whatever colors/style+settings were default. just can't figure it
[04:27] <bertholdiz> I need help. When i use the computer its sometimes stopping completley and grinds my hdd to an insane degree.
[04:28] <masterk> my friend just like burned a cd in vista
[04:28] <bertholdiz> then after its done with whatever it does, it continues as normal
[04:28] <masterk> and now I can't open it here in kubuntu
[04:28] <masterk> it says it can't mount the volume
[04:31] <bertholdiz> anyone got an idea how to solve my problem?
[04:32] <DexterF> bertholdiz: read man mount
[04:32] <MrBougo> hi there
[04:32] <amin81> rysiek
[04:32] <MrBougo> i installed the ssh package
[04:33] <MrBougo> and i was wondering... is there any way to disable the server?
[04:33] <MrBougo> i guess so
[04:33] <DexterF> bertholdiz: whoops, wrong address, sorry
[04:33] <DexterF> thought was you about udf
[04:33] <amin81> where did my help go? haha
[04:35] <DexterF> bertholdiz: how long is that grinding action?
[04:35] <DexterF> seconds? less then a second?
[04:35] <bertholdiz> 30 seconds or so
[04:35] <DexterF> how often?
[04:36] <sfire> possibly fsck?
[04:36] <bertholdiz> every 15 minuts atleast, even more if i do stuff
[04:36] <sfire> or indexing?
[04:37] <bertholdiz> i think its because of my NTFS disk. If i dont have that mounted it becomes an rare occurrance, but when mounted it does it all the time
[04:37] <sfire> have you tried to un-plug it?
[04:37] <bertholdiz> sfire: yes
[04:38] <sfire> thats when it quits doing it?
[04:38] <bertholdiz> but i want the content =(
[04:38] <bertholdiz> and my linux disk is only 120gb...
[04:38] <dcosmin22> This PIZZA symbolizes my COMPLETE EMOTIONAL RECOVERY!!
[04:38] <sfire> I can't give you any good advice there... I ended up getting a 500 gig external for 95 bucks
[04:38] <sfire> I put all my stuff on that to cart it between computers
[04:39] <krzysztof> som tu jacy polacy
[04:39] <MrBougo> err how can i create an empty file?
[04:39] <bertholdiz> ok sfire thanks still
[04:39] <bertholdiz> MrBougo: use the command touch
[04:39] <MrBougo> okay
[04:41] <bertholdiz> seems that it does that grinding anyways.. even after removing the disk
[04:42] <BluesKaj> or create a file on the desktop, by rightclicking and create -whatever
[04:43] <sfire> bertholdiz: could it be a bad drive?
[04:44] <bertholdiz> sfire: i dont think it is... its rather new and has worked perfecly til now
[04:44] <blahblahx> hi
[04:44] <BluesKaj> bert un-mounting the ntfs share might work
[04:44] <bertholdiz> sfire:  i formated it recently in ext3 to accomodate the linux partition didautomatic partitioning and have a 5gb swap partition
[04:45] <dcosmin22> Someone in DAYTON, Ohio is selling USED CARPETS to a SERBO-CROATIAN!!
[04:45] <bertholdiz> BluesKaj: i dont have an ntfs disk in the computer at all now.
[04:45] <bertholdiz> BluesKaj: i removed it
[04:45] <sfire> dcosmin22: that is called recycling
[04:45] <dcosmin22> Is the EIGHTIES when they had ART DECO and GERALD McBOING-BOING lunch boxes??
[04:45] <BluesKaj> no ntfs partition?
[04:45] <blahblahx> if i installed kde core, where is it located?
[04:46] <Arwen> blahblahx, /usr/share/doc. kde-core is a metapackage.
[04:46] <jriachi> hello
[04:46] <BluesKaj> i still think 5gig swap is ridiculously large
[04:46] <Arwen> BluesKaj, LIES
[04:46] <bertholdiz> BluesKaj:  i know.. Should i remove it and make a smaller one? Does it matter?
[04:46] <jriachi> hello
[04:47] <BluesKaj> not neeeded if you have 2gigs of memory
[04:47] <Arwen> bertholdiz, hint: your swap should *never* be less than your physical RAM
[04:47] <Arwen> BluesKaj, oh... lol, then yeah
[04:47] <sfire> Arwen: never?
[04:47] <Arwen> sfire, never.
[04:47] <sfire> oops... I broke that rule
[04:47] <bertholdiz> I have 2gb ram
[04:47] <sfire> even with 2 GB?
[04:48] <Arwen> yes.
[04:48] <sfire> I set it at 768 mb :(
[04:48] <Arwen> because of suspend-to-disk
[04:48] <sfire> so thats why that doesn't work :(
[04:48] <Arwen> and because swap is used to cache cruft that hangs around in RAM
[04:48] <Dragnslcr> Of course, if you have 500 GB of disks, a couple GB for swap doesn't matter much anyway
[04:48] <Arwen> ^^ - but a 500 GB disk isn't too reliable anyway
[04:49] <sfire> so hot out I can't stand it
[04:49] <sfire> my laptop is getting so hot I can't touch it
[04:49] <jriachi> what is the difference between adept and synaptic?
[04:50] <bertholdiz> jriachi: QT or GTK
[04:50] <BluesKaj> north ontario is nice this time of yr , sfire
[04:50] <Dragnslcr> Interface would be about it, I would guess
[04:50] <sfire> jriachi: one has more letters
[04:51] <BluesKaj> synaptic can fix broken pkges , adept can't
[04:51] <sfire> really ??? :o
[04:51] <BluesKaj> yes
[04:51] <jriachi> whould it be wise to use synaptic in kubuntu?
[04:52] <bertholdiz> jriachi: sure
[04:52] <Arwen> jriachi, yes
[04:52] <Arwen> because synaptic > adept
[04:52] <xerosis> Jisao: adept and apt-get/aptitude is more than fine
[04:52] <Mr_Pan> do u know a list of .PAC file for automatic proxy configuration  ?
[04:52] <sfire> thats what I've been using
[04:52] <sfire> but there are several things I can't install due to broken packages
[04:53] <xerosis> sfire: aptitude usually sorts out breakages for me
[04:53] <jriachi> i am coming from debian, so i still used to apt-get... but i am trying to do things in the "kubuntu way"
[04:53] <jriachi> :)
[04:53] <GrueTamer> apt get is ok, theres this apt get removeall thing that evens out apt get and aptitude
[04:54] <GrueTamer> besides, there is no "kubuntu way"
[04:54] <Arwen> apt-get is the best way to do things :-)
[04:54] <GrueTamer> compile from source!
[04:54] <Arwen> I just call synaptic to search for packages :-\
[04:54] <Arwen> GrueTamer, "apt-get source -b package" :-0
[04:54] <Kartibok> Have a great system with Kubuntu......all is fine and dandy but if I leave it for a few hours it just freezes and I need to reboot. Does anyone have any ideas? or are there logs I can view?
[04:54] <BluesKaj> aptitude is great too, but it has no GUI
[04:55] <Kartibok> Oops Hi all!
[04:55] <Arwen> Kartibok, syslog, kern.log, and Xorg.0.log
[04:55] <GrueTamer> aptitude yay
[04:55] <sfire> Kartibok: possibly just going to "sleep"
[04:55] <sfire> Kartibok: have you tried the power button to "wake it up"
[04:55] <Arwen> aptitude is confuzzling..
[04:56] <Kartibok> Arwen: I'm assuming that they should give some good pointers?
[04:56] <Kartibok> sfire:
[04:56] <Arwen> Kartibok, yeah. Of course, a lot of the time, the cause of lockups isn't logged.
[04:56] <Kartibok> sfire: No, just tried usingthe keys...as the mouse is fine......
[04:56] <jriachi> argh, synaptic is not using my "gtk-qk" style :S
[04:57] <Kartibok> Also can't kill get to kill any processses as I can't get up the apps
[04:57] <xerosis> jriachi: it's cos it's a root app
[04:57] <Arwen> jriachi, yeah, you need to set the qt style as root
[04:57] <BluesKaj> most pplthe default setup is to turn the power off a certain period of time , and you have to configure that in sys/settings/monitor-display/power savings
[04:58] <jriachi> xerosis: yeah, that makes sense
[04:58] <Kartibok> All - Many thanks lots of good ideas cheers
[05:01] <jriachi> fixed style,  (domino style p0wa!!1one)
[05:01] <Daisuke_Ido> \o/  finally got an sata cable, got the new hard drive in
[05:02] <sfire> they seriously need to re-consider the price on those sata cables
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> err
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> why?
[05:02] <sfire> too darn expensive
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> i got a molex to sata power adapter and an sata cable for $5
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> local pc store
[05:03] <sfire> well thats not too bad
[05:03] <Daisuke_Ido> some of the cables are expensive though :\
[05:03] <sfire> get the drive to work?
[05:03] <Daisuke_Ido> but this suits me just fine.  now i get the joy of moving mount points around
[05:03] <Daisuke_Ido> oh yeah, effortlessly
[05:03] <BluesKaj> jriachi, ya wany gnome go to #ubuntu...this is kubuntu (KDE)
[05:04] <jriachi> BluesKaj: :S ?
[05:05] <Daisuke_Ido> new drive's going to become the new media storage drive, old media storage is going to become music storage, and the old music drive is going to become extra "whatever" space
[05:05] <Daisuke_Ido> unmount them all and do some shuffling :D
[05:05] <Billiard> hey what am i supposed to choose at grub generic or 386?
[05:05] <BluesKaj> 386
[05:05] <sfire> my largest drive is always the /home/ mount point
[05:05] <sfire> I put everything in /home/ for easy backup
[05:05] <main_> Someone can tell why in Firefox I can't see PDF printer?
[05:06] <Billiard> BluesKaj ive been using generic, what would that make it do?
[05:06] <jriachi> main_ i think that pdf printer is a kde-applicaation feature only
[05:06] <BluesKaj> dunno Billiard , depends on what you have installed, maybe nothing on a new install
[05:07] <jriachi> but with "print to file", you can print to Postscript, which is more or less similar
[05:07] <Billiard> BluesKaj, so if ive been installing programs with generic are they gonna be messed up if i use 386?
[05:07] <BluesKaj> no
[05:07] <dcosmin> dcosmin22 ce faci?
[05:07] <dcosmin22> Is the EIGHTIES when they had ART DECO and GERALD McBOING-BOING lunch boxes??
[05:07] <main_> Thank's jriachi. But in the last version I have cups (with all printers) working in all applications.
[05:08] <BluesKaj> dcosmin22, give up on thatr , it's off topic and no one cares :)
[05:08] <dcosmin22> I am a traffic light, and Alan Ginsberg kidnapped my laundry in 1927!
[05:08] <jriachi> main_ no idea, then, sorry
[05:09] <dcosmin> dcosmin Go Away
[05:10] <dcosmin22> Is it FUN to be a MIDGET?
[05:10] <BluesKaj> !ops | dcosmin
[05:10] <ubotu> dcosmin: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[05:10] <bertholdiz> bloody dagnabit. This must stop... why the heck does the hdd grinds so..
[05:11] <dcosmin22> I have a VISION!  It's a RANCID double-FISHWICH on an ENRICHED BUN!!
[05:11] <BluesKaj> bertholdiz, was it grinding in windoze ?
[05:11] <bertholdiz> BluesKaj: nope
[05:11] <bertholdiz> BluesKaj: an not in BeOS either
[05:11] <nalioth> dcosmin22: offtopicness should be taken care of in #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:11] <dcosmin22> This PIZZA symbolizes my COMPLETE EMOTIONAL RECOVERY!!
[05:13] <Daisuke_Ido> that was perhaps the strangest thing ever to grace these halls
[05:13] <sfire> nah
[05:14] <BluesKaj> bertholdiz, doesn't sound like a healthy HDD :(
[05:14] <bertholdiz> BluesKaj: how comes it works soo good in BeOS then?
[05:14] <sfire> not reading the same sector
[05:14] <bertholdiz> sfire: aah
[05:15] <nbcb> i've a workable windows in harddisk 1, and i remove the harddisk and installed kubuntu on harddisk 2
[05:15] <DexterF> Daisuke_Ido: sounds like a bot to me
[05:15] <BluesKaj> dunno , never used BeOS
[05:15] <nbcb> now plug harddisk 2 as master, how do i configure grub to boot windows on harddisk 1?
[05:15] <nbcb> is it possible?
[05:15] <BluesKaj> put BeOS on partition and see if the HDD grinds then
[05:16] <DexterF> why does kubuntu never automount my nfs mounts from fstab?
[05:16] <nbcb> anyone knows?
[05:16] <jriachi> where was the option "allow to resize maximized windows?"
[05:16] <sfire> nbcb: man grub
[05:16] <nbcb> wtf?
[05:17] <stevec_> wtf??
[05:17] <nbcb> that's a stupid answer back
[05:17] <jriachi> (found it: under "moving" in window behaviour)
[05:18] <Mr_Pan> i need a list of anonymous proxy.  can u help me ?
[05:18] <sfire> nbcb: you need to modify the grub configuration file then run the grub application to update it
[05:18] <sercik> Hi!
[05:19] <Arwen> Mr_Pan, nope
[05:19] <sercik> i'm sorry to all ubuntu people, because i have installed and used SUSE linux
[05:19] <Arwen> Mr_Pan, the only truly anonymous proxy is tor (http://tor.eff.org)
[05:19] <bertholdiz> sercik: nothing to be sad about
[05:19] <sercik> i will not use it anymore... i promise!
[05:19] <bertholdiz> sercik:  suse is nice too
[05:19] <sercik> oh yes!
[05:19] <Arwen> sercik, lol........... we don't advocate any one linux over another
[05:20] <sercik> Arwen i know but i can assure that i'm sorry
[05:20] <bertholdiz> sercik:  bad experience?
[05:20] <sercik> becuase on the first impressions it seems very good but then............
[05:20] <sercik> it ssems more windows than linux
[05:20] <sercik> only graphic interface!
[05:20] <sercik> bleah!
[05:20] <bertholdiz> sercik:  the major chink in suses armor ir that lack of package management.
[05:21] <sercik> package management is horrible... i have upgraded and it takes one minute to solve dependencies
[05:21] <BluesKaj> bertholdiz, no kidding... YAST sucks
[05:21] <sercik> and then the upgrade process is not visible
[05:21] <sercik> it seems windows
[05:21] <bertholdiz> i think im going to install macosx now
[05:22] <sercik> you can see only an advanced bar
[05:22] <bertholdiz> hehe
[05:22] <sercik> macosx on intel?
[05:22] <bertholdiz> sercik: nope
[05:22] <bertholdiz> ppc
[05:22] <sercik> ah!
[05:22] <sercik> because i have tried on intel
[05:22] <sercik> but don't have drivers..
[05:22] <sfire> only works good on a few machines (so I've heard)
[05:23] <bertholdiz> too bad, though if it hadnt been for the stupid grinding i would have been satisified with linux.
[05:23] <sercik> without any doubt macosx is a good operating system but linux is bet
[05:23] <sfire> bertholdiz: you need to look into the grinding
[05:23] <sercik> best
[05:23] <sfire> if you care about your data that is
[05:23] <sfire> I can tell you it didn't grind for me when I had a NTFS drive mounted
[05:23] <BluesKaj> bertholdiz, there's gotta be something wrong with the HDD
[05:23] <sercik> and then i have asked for little help on suse irc and they have told me i'm stupid and i need to use ubuntu :(
[05:24] <bertholdiz> BluesKaj:  i think there is something wrong with the swapping
[05:24] <GrueTamer> sercik: those guys are dumb
[05:24] <bertholdiz> it only grinds when ram gets full
[05:24] <sfire> bertholdiz: then that would be your smaller drive
[05:24] <sfire> not the NTFS one
[05:24] <jriachi> I have an idea for a bug-fixing contest, for the 7.10... the participants record a 30secs video (with istanbul, recordmydesktop, webcam in front of screen...) tring to show their 'favorite' bugs. then there is a votation. the winning video(s) gets their bugs fixed with high priority and win a t-shirt.
[05:24] <sercik> we ubuntu users make a promise to don't use SUSE
[05:24] <sercik> i promise and you?
[05:24] <bertholdiz> yes
[05:24] <sercik> any other?
[05:24] <GrueTamer> id make that promise, but im hardly an ubuntu user, its just my backup/stable OS that i run
[05:25] <GrueTamer> if im gonna break things, i need something thatll work :)
[05:25] <BluesKaj> bertholdiz, then don't do the auto partition , do it manually and make yer  swap the same size as the memory
[05:25] <bertholdiz> BluesKaj: good advice.
[05:25] <amin81> hello everyone
[05:25] <bertholdiz> btw is it possible to run linux with a swapfile instead of a partition?
[05:25] <optix> Does anyone know of any good WiFi apps for Kubuntu that allow selection from available networks, rather than manually inputting the SSID?
[05:26] <llutz> bertholdiz: sure it is
[05:26] <amin81> I cannot connect to the internet using kubuntu, anyone knows why?
[05:26] <sercik> someone of you that know me a little: do you think i'm a bad guy?
[05:26] <optix> much like the Wireless Network in Winblowz.
[05:26] <sfire> optix: yes... knetworkmanager
[05:26] <sercik> thaat i break balls and other?
[05:26] <GrueTamer> lol, windblowz
[05:26] <GrueTamer> winblowz*
[05:26] <optix> sfire, it doesn't want to do that though
[05:26] <optix> it will only accept the inputted SSID.
[05:27] <amin81> sfire: did you see where the phin guy went?
[05:27] <sercik> because on suse hi think that i'm not a good people he have told me many bad words stupid idiot and some son of a bitch have also told about my mother and my sister
[05:27] <sfire> amin81: he had to go... it was getting too hot
[05:27] <amin81> sfire: hmm
[05:27] <rraajj> optix: wlassistant
[05:27] <sfire> amin81: basically he was just going to tell you how to configure your network connection with a static IP
[05:27] <amin81> sfire: ok, thanx
[05:28] <amin81> sfire: yeah, I was back after ten minutes but he had already left
[05:28] <sercik> sudo ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1
[05:28] <sercik> or any other ip you want
[05:28] <bertholdiz> tine for a reboot
[05:28] <rraajj> optix: Though I haven't made it work using wpa_supplicant, though. It can detect WPA-enabled networks, but can't make it connect to them.
[05:28] <rraajj> Woops, double "though". I must be really sleepy by now.
[05:29] <sfire> amin81: copy all info except your IP address from windows... then pick a IP address that is unique on your network (you can try adding just 1 to your windows IP
[05:29] <sfire> amin81: all the other info.. DNS... Gateway, Etc should all be the same as in windows
[05:29] <amin81> ok, thanx
[05:30] <optix> rraajj, maybe you can help me in that department as well (WPA)
[05:30] <amin81> sfire: i will have to disconnect again, brb
[05:30] <sercik> amin81you can add info to /etc/networks/interfaces manually os use network configuration
[05:30] <rraajj> optix: What seems to be the problem?
[05:30] <optix> I can't seem to get my WiFi to logon to a WPA network
[05:30] <optix> I've had to turn off encryption in order to get it to connect
[05:30] <sfire> optix I may know why
[05:30] <optix> since there's also a Mac in the house that can't use WEP
[05:30] <sfire> I have to tell it the WEP key is hex to connect
[05:30] <pyrotix> how do I find what version of Kubuntu I'm running?
[05:30] <sfire> if I use any other option it won't accept the WEP
[05:31] <optix> hmm - so how do I find out/make the hex password?
[05:31] <sfire> pyrotix: uname -a
[05:31] <rraajj> optix: Hmm, where do you configure your network connection?
[05:31] <optix> I used KWifiManager
[05:31] <pyrotix> sfire: isn't that kernel ver?
[05:31] <sfire> optix: it could already be hex... is your WEP key only 0-9 A-F ?
[05:32] <optix> sfire, yes
[05:32] <optix> it's a rather simple password - actually.
[05:32] <sfire> then its a hex wep key
[05:32] <sfire> for some reason it made a difference on mine
[05:32] <optix> so no different then a usual pass?/
[05:32] <sfire> I spent hours trying to get it to connect
[05:32] <sfire> on mine I had to tell knetworkmanager that it was a hex key in a drop down box
[05:33] <stevec_> how do you create deb packages, I want kovpn but it isn't available so thought I might create a packge for it
[05:33] <frojnd> This user is not reachable at the moment. Please make sure you are connected and using a protocol that supports offline sending, or wait until this user comes online.  HOW CAN I make this work than when I click someone when I am invisible (in kopete - msn protocol) I can chat with him/her/it ??
[05:34] <sfire> stevec_: I don't think there is a simple one line response to that... I've seen instructions online though
[05:35] <sfire> optix: try using knetworkmanager and if it can't find the router try typing in the SSID and the put in the WEP key as hex and see if it works
[05:36] <sfire> you could have your router setup to not broadcast the SSID?
[05:36] <rraajj> optix: Hmm, let's see... I used to get my card to connect to a WPA-enabled network using wpa_supplicant back in Mepis, but I had to downgrade it to WEP for my DS.
[05:36] <Arwen> !packaging | stevec_
[05:36] <ubotu> stevec_: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[05:37] <rraajj> I think Ubuntu (gnome) has default support for WPA using it's standard wireless network manager.
[05:37] <rraajj> I'm not really sure about it when it comes to Feisty.
[05:37] <amin81> sfire: i forgot to tell you
[05:37] <amin81> sfire: when I do ping -c 3 www.google.com | grep transmitted
[05:37] <rraajj> optix: Try installing wpasupplicant first.
[05:38] <amin81> sfire: 3 packages are delivered with a 0% loss
[05:38] <rraajj> Hmm, I think it is already installed in the default installation.
[05:38] <sfire> amin81: then its working
[05:38] <sfire> amin81: congrats
[05:38] <amin81> sfire: but i cannot get online
[05:39] <amin81> sfire: I havnt tried to installing the static yet
[05:39] <sfire> amin81: if you get 0% loss then its working fine
[05:39] <amin81> sfire: yes but when I do ping www.google.com
[05:39] <amin81> sfire: then it does not work
[05:40] <sfire> what does the last line say when you stop it
[05:40] <sfire> 'ctrl + c'
[05:40] <llutz> amin81: try: ping 209.85.135.147
[05:40] <rraajj> optix: Try installing wlassistant. I heard from KDE-apps that it has WPA support now.
[05:41] <rraajj> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=21832&forumpage=18&PHPSESSID=f09c9d5686697f6afa2af68525730353
[05:41] <amin81> llutz: ok
[05:41] <amin81> brb
[05:41] <phpcode> my gcc goes not work. it is installed. help?
[05:41] <rraajj> phpcode: What do you mean it doesn't work?
[05:42] <Minataku> You probably have only GCC and not build-essential
[05:42] <Minataku> Or whatever the heck it's called
[05:42] <Arwen> yeah, build-essential
[05:42] <Minataku> Thx, Arwen X3
[05:42] <Arwen> also, you'll probably need the dev headers if whatever you're compiling has dependencies
[05:43] <phpcode> rraajj: i tryed to install eggdrop and i got this error: checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no ...
[05:43] <Minataku> O.o
[05:43] <amin81> llutz: 0% packet loss
[05:43] <Arwen> phpcode, link to eggdrop? I'll take a look at it
[05:43] <sylvestre> hi all
[05:43] <amin81> llutz: what does it mean?
[05:43] <sylvestre> gow are you?
[05:43] <amin81> hi sylvestre
[05:44] <sylvestre> *how are you
[05:44] <amin81> not bad, how are you?
[05:44] <rraajj> phpcode: You could try following their (Minataku and Arwen) advice, install build-essential.
[05:44] <amin81> llutz: still there?
[05:44] <llutz> amin81: so you've got reply on ping? means you need to setup your dns
[05:44] <phpcode> Arwen: ftp.eggheads.org/pub/eggdrop/source/1.6/eggdrop1.6.18.tar.bz2
[05:44] <amin81> lluts: ok
[05:44] <sylvestre> fine thanks you
[05:44] <stevec_> Arwen: thanks for the links!
[05:44] <Arwen> phpcode, I can't connect to server....
[05:46] <Sanne> phpcode: eggdrop is available as an ubuntu package, btw
[05:46] <phpcode> Arwen: www.egghelp.org/files.htm
[05:47] <Arwen> phpcode, what Sanne said, you can "apt-get install eggdrop"
[05:48] <phpcode> Sanne: i know, but i want to have it installed on my Desktop :-P
[05:48] <Arwen> .......
[05:48] <Arwen> so "apt-get install eggdrop"
[05:49] <Sanne> phpcode: ok, just thought I'd mention it :)
[05:49] <Arwen> if you want to build your own eggdrop, you need the "cdbs", "tcl8.4-dev", "zlib1g-dev", and "build-essential" packages
[05:54] <phpcode> rraajj, Arwen, Sanne: thanks for the help.  i dont know what i did but it solved the problem :-)
[05:54] <Arwen> lol
[05:55] <Sanne> phpcode: you're welcome :)
[05:55] <rraajj> phpcode: Lol! Linux has "automagical" powers! :))
[05:55] <Sanne> hahaha
[05:55] <rraajj> (I really forgot where I got that word from...)
[05:56] <phpcode> hehe.. :-P
[05:56] <amin81> llutz: back!
[05:56] <amin81> llutz: it didnt work out :(
[05:57] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi, kubuntu is sooo niced and polished
[05:58] <amin81> llutz: r u there?
[05:59] <llutz> amin81: yep
[05:59] <amin81> does anyone know rysiek in here?
[06:01] <amin81> llutz: i'll have to figure out what to do. thanks for your help anyway!
[06:01] <llutz> amin81: do you use dhcp or static ips?
[06:01] <amin81> llutz: dhcp
[06:02] <amin81> llutz: i will explain everything from the beginning for you
[06:02] <llutz> amin81: so dns should be set right automatically...
[06:02] <amin81> llutz: yes, but it doesnt...it does under windows but not under linux
[06:02] <amin81> llutz: when I installed linux on my new computer (3 weeks back) i had the same problem
[06:03] <amin81> llutz: i had to add a script in interfaces (which rysiek helped me out with)
[06:03] <weedar> is there a simple way to test my webcam? I'm not sure if the driver is installed or not
[06:03] <amin81> llutz: now the internet provider has changed the router that provides the building i live in with internet
[06:03] <amin81> llutz: so all the numbers have changed
[06:04] <rraajj> weedar: Install camorama. :)
[06:04] <amin81> llutz: i tried to replace the old numbers in the script with the new numbers but it still isnt working
[06:04] <rraajj> (not sure if that's counted as "simple", though)
[06:04] <amin81> llutz: i also deleted the script and tried to install the numbers manually with no success
[06:04] <amin81> llutz: and now I am here
[06:05] <llutz> amin81: what numbers? if dhcp is used, all addresses should be given by the server
[06:05] <amin81> the broadcast number, the undernet mask, the default gateway and the inet address
[06:05] <llutz> amin81: what is your network-device (ethX, wlanX)?
[06:05] <amin81> llutz: eth0
[06:05] <amin81> llutz: let me show you the script
[06:06] <llutz> amin81: try in a console "sudo dhclient eth0"
[06:07] <amin81> llutz: i tried it
[06:07] <amin81> llutz: what do you need to know from it?
[06:08] <llutz> amin81: can you paste the script to pastebin, plz
[06:08] <llutz> !paste|amin81
[06:08] <ubotu> amin81: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:09] <amin81> llutz: yes
[06:09] <Ace2016> Hi all
[06:09] <weedar> rraajj: thanks for the tip ;)
[06:09] <llutz> amin81: the dhclient-command hasn't any effect?
[06:10] <NickPresta> weedar, check this link out: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete%20Webcam%20Support&comzone=show
[06:10] <Ace2016> i made this howto on how to run seamless rdp to windows xp using virtualbox
[06:10] <Ace2016> http://ace2016.65gb.com/index.html   check it out
[06:11] <amin81> llutz: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25004/
[06:12] <stevec_> Ace2016: that naff
[06:12] <amin81> llutz: yes, it does
[06:12] <amin81> it says something with dhcpdiscover
[06:12] <rraajj> weedar: No problem. :)
[06:12] <amin81> llutz: dhcpdiscover on eth0 something
[06:12] <anthony_> Hi, I am trying to run add/remove but its telling me another process is using adept.. but i am doing this soon after startup so there shouldnt be any other programs..
[06:12] <weedar> NickPresta: I assumed Kopete needed me to start a chat with someone who had a cam to work
[06:13] <llutz> amin81: seems that the default-route (gateway) isn't set right when doing a dhcp-request (that's what the script fixes)
[06:14] <llutz> amin81: the dhcp-server seems to be crappy...
[06:14] <jhutchins_lt> !aptfix | anthony_
[06:14] <ubotu> anthony_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:14] <amin81> llutz: hmm, ok
[06:14] <amin81> llutz: what should I do then?
[06:14] <anthony_> 10q ubotu
[06:14] <anthony_> oops 10q jhutchins_Lt
[06:15] <llutz> amin81: hm, try using static ips
[06:15] <amin81> llutz:i just did, it is still not working
[06:15] <llutz> amin81: whats the addressrange of your local network?
[06:15] <llutz> amin81: whats the ip of the dhcp-server?
[06:15] <amin81> llutz: hmm, have no clue...
[06:16] <anthony_> 10x working now
[06:16] <amin81> llutz: dhcp-server has 10.11.0.254
[06:16] <BluesKaj> shouldn'the pc behind the router have a default staic IP , it's just dynamic on the internet side ?
[06:16] <amin81> range is probably 200-250...i am guessing
[06:16] <BluesKaj> static IP
[06:16] <llutz> BluesKaj: dhcp is usefull in localnets too
[06:16] <llutz> if it works...
[06:17] <BluesKaj> yeah , but I'm just thinking of a home network setup
[06:17] <llutz> amin81: so thats the address of the new router?
[06:17] <anthony_> another thing.. the backup text files show in the desktop.. is there a way to hide all the backup stuff ?
[06:17] <amin81> llutz: yes, the old one had 192.168.0.1 or something
[06:17] <llutz> amin81: mom
[06:17] <amin81> llutz: haha, what??
[06:18] <llutz> amin81: sry, mom=german abreviation for "wait a moment" ;)
[06:18] <amin81> llutz: oh, :D
[06:19] <llutz> amin81: try to change the script this way: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25007/
[06:19] <amin81> llutz: ok
[06:20] <amin81> llutz: that is exactly what i did before
[06:20] <ardchoille> How do I restart my sound?
[06:20] <llutz> amin81: and no success?
[06:20] <amin81> llutz: without any success...that is why I am here
[06:20] <llutz> amin81: hmmm
[06:20] <optix> rraajj, I got it to work with knetmanager :)
[06:20] <optix> rraajj, there's only one problem
[06:21] <amin81> llutz: yes, hehe
[06:23] <rraajj> optix: w00t! That's good. :)
[06:23] <sebastianhooker_> hey i have a question
[06:23] <optix> rraajj, one issue though - my wifi is dropping packets.
[06:23] <rraajj> But... Isn't knetworkmanager a bit hard to use? (I mean, if you frequently change networks, anyway)
[06:23] <optix> rraajj, not at all
[06:23] <sebastianhooker_> how do I log onto my ubuntu shared folders from a windows computer? what is the username and password i need, my regular one won't work
[06:23] <optix> just a dropdown menu :)
[06:24] <llutz> amin81: maybe you can try this, just 3 commands to test: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25009/
[06:24] <rraajj> optix: Oh, okay. :)
[06:24] <rraajj> optix: What card are you using?
[06:24] <optix> it's an integrated Broadcom
[06:24] <amin81> llutz: the funny thing is, when I ping -c 3 www.google.com then 0% package loss
[06:24] <optix> came with my Dell.
[06:24] <llutz> amin81: that means, your network works
[06:24] <llutz> amin81: and dns too
[06:24] <rraajj> Ah, the dreaded Broadcom chipsets.
[06:24] <optix> rraajj, yep.
[06:24] <DexterF> how to I make 7.04 mount nfs at boot time? entries in fstab are fine
[06:24] <rraajj> optix: What did you do to make it work? I used ndiswrapper on mine.
[06:25] <optix> rraajj, I had it working perfectly earlier
[06:25] <optix> just with no encryption.
[06:25] <amin81> llutz: hmm
[06:25] <optix> rraajj, there's a broadcom driver on the ubuntu forums
[06:25] <optix> somewhere.
[06:25] <timd> can anyone help me be able to watch DVD's...and i did !dvd already
[06:26] <rraajj> optix: Hmm. I'm not sure, it's probably with Feisty's build of wpasupplicant. You said you had it working perfectly without encryption, right?
[06:26] <llutz> amin81: can you open www.linux.com in firefox/konqueror
[06:26] <amin81> no, I cannot open any sites
[06:26] <rraajj> timd: Try Kaffeine or VLC, works great.
[06:26] <amin81> llutz: let i'll be right back
[06:26] <llutz> amin81: that#s real odd
[06:27] <amin81> yes
[06:27] <optix> rraajj, yeah - what happens is that there's major latency between the wifi card and router and subsequently beyond
[06:27] <amin81> llutz: let me try, i will be back in 5 mins
[06:27] <timd> i tried and get errors
[06:27] <timd> rraajj: i tried and get errors
[06:27] <optix> i.e. on my stock Intel Mac
[06:27] <optix> I can ping domain x
[06:27] <optix> at ~ 50ms
[06:27] <optix> whereas Kubuntu pings it at ~ 150
[06:27] <optix> and ifconfig is showing dropped packets
[06:28] <NickPresta> timd, what sems to be your problem? Have you followed: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability (forget totem-xine and do gstreamer0.8-dvd)
[06:28] <timd> is that the same as
[06:28] <rraajj> optix: Sorry, I can't help any further... I haven't used WPA since I bought myself a DS Lite. :P
[06:28] <timd> !dvd
[06:28] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:28] <timd> oh ok i'll try that Nick
[06:29] <magicmike> I extracted a folder onto my desktop. I am in terminal and it lists my starting directory as magicmike@magicmike-desktop:~$ How do I navigate to my desktop folder which is named my files?
[06:29] <rraajj> optix: But it's good you got your card working under a WPA-enabled network, at least.
[06:29] <optix> rraajj, yeah :)
[06:29] <optix> question is - will my Mac laptop work now? ;)
[06:29] <llutz> magicmike: cd ~/Desktop/myfiles
[06:29] <rraajj> Why? Macs can't handle WPA?
[06:30] <optix> rraajj, no - I don't think it'll take kindly to the netconfig change.
[06:30] <NickPresta> magicmike, http://www.ss64.com/bash/ You're looking for things like cd, ls, mv, cp and such for simple tasks.
[06:30] <optix> so might have to reconfig that too.
[06:30] <stevec_> magicmike: google is your friend, use it
[06:30] <timd> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[06:30] <stevec_> timd: that won;t take long then
[06:31] <rraajj> optix: Doesn't it have one of those AirPort config thingys?
[06:31] <rraajj> <-- hardly has any experience with Macs. :P
[06:31] <optix> rraajj, yes - it does, just means I need to go reconfigure it is all
[06:31] <optix> :)
[06:31] <rraajj> optix: Oh, okay. :)
[06:32] <timd> how do i get the OB thing?
[06:32] <timd> sorry i just installed kubuntu yesterday so getting used to it
[06:32] <optix> but question is - why am I dropping all these packets? :(
[06:32] <NickPresta> timd: You might want to try the Add/Remove Programs application and search for DVD.
[06:32] <magicmike> That command gives me "No such file or directory". As far as google ing it, I have been on many different begginner sites and haven't grasped it. I thought if I came in here someone could simplify the matter. But excuse me if I'm too dumb to figure it out.
[06:33] <magicmike> Thanks NickPresta.
[06:33] <sfire> magicmike: what are you trying to do?
[06:33] <timd> NickPresta: I have 4 different DVD players and they all won't let me play a DVD...it has to be packages or lib i'm missing, but don't know which one
[06:33] <amin81> llutz: hey
[06:34] <amin81> llutz: ok, this is what i did
[06:34] <firdaus> my pc cannot access java site.. wut should i do??
[06:34] <magicmike> Trying to learn how to navigate directories. I had to download flash player and save it to a directory. Now I want to navigate to it to install.
[06:34] <NickPresta> magicmike, in your home directory (~), do `ls`. That will bring up a listing of the directory. Then, figure out the name of the folder and type `cd NAME`
[06:34] <sfire> magicmike: you want to use the 'cd' command
[06:34] <amin81> llutz: i changed the network settings to automatic
[06:34] <amin81> llutz: then I wrote ping www.google.com in konsole
[06:34] <timd> The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?
[06:34] <optix> hmm - anyone have any suggestions for seeing where/why I'm dropping all of these packets?
[06:34] <amin81> 0% package loss
[06:34] <sfire> magicmike: example 'cd /home/yourname/'
[06:34] <firdaus> my pc cannot access java site.. wut should i do??
[06:35] <firdaus> somebody help me
[06:35] <sfire> magicmike: then type 'ls'
[06:35] <amin81> llutz: 0% package loss. So I opened firefox and wrote www.hotmail.com
[06:35] <amin81> llutz: it says: connecting to www.hotmail.com but it just keeps on thinking
[06:35] <magicmike> Is that minus the '
[06:35] <timd> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[06:35] <timd> how do i get that?
[06:35] <sfire> magicmike: yes
[06:35] <NickPresta> magicmike, yes, you do not include the quotes.
[06:36] <amin81> llutz: then I opened konversation and tried to connect to the ubuntu server. It says: server found, connecting...
[06:36] <firdaus> somebody help me
[06:36] <amin81> llutz: but nothing is happening
[06:36] <sfire> firdaus: install java ?
[06:36] <amin81> llutz: did you get the info?
[06:37] <llutz> amin81: very strange, if you hadn't said that win works i would say the router is broken.
[06:37] <NickPresta> amin81, the only other thing I can suggest is using `traceroute` and finding where you get stuck...
[06:37] <rraajj> optix: kwlan is nice, just tried it here.
[06:37] <rraajj> I think it's a fork of wpagui for KDE.
[06:37] <amin81> NickPresta: traceroute?
[06:37] <sfire> amin81: did you change the configuration in your browser... are you trying to use a proxy?
[06:37] <magicmike> I know how to use the ls command. I have a problem navigating from there.
[06:37] <firdaus> but my pc cannot run the adept manager n add remove prog
[06:38] <llutz> amin81: sudo aptitude install traceroute    and then "traceroute www.hotmail.com"
[06:38] <NickPresta> amin81, yeah. Something like: traceroute google.com. it will print out the route that packets take. Perhaps they're being dropped somewhere
[06:38] <amin81> sfire: the browser settings is not the problem as I cannot connect with any other program either
[06:38] <amin81> ok, let me try... brb
[06:39] <amin81> llutz: I wont be able to download the program though
[06:39] <amin81> llutz: as the comp cannot connect
[06:39] <llutz> amin81: ups, right....
[06:39] <sfire> llutz: are you at a college?
[06:40] <llutz> sfire: nope
[06:40] <sfire> oops... amin81 are you at a college
[06:40] <sfire> lol
[06:40] <amin81> sfire: no
[06:40] <llutz> anyone at a college? ;)) tell it sfire
[06:40] <sfire> no no... it was ment for amin81 I just typed your name by mistake
[06:40] <amin81> sfire: why?
[06:40] <sfire> lol
[06:41] <sfire> you claim you can ping google.com fine right?
[06:41] <amin81> sfire: yes
[06:41] <amin81> but no programs on the comp can connect
[06:41] <CPrgmSwR2> OMG amarok is amazing
[06:41] <optix> rraajj, I think that my packets dropping issue is related to issues upstream
[06:41] <sfire> CPrgmSwR2: yes it is
[06:42] <CPrgmSwR2> The visuallize thing actually appears to really respond to the music
[06:42] <CPrgmSwR2> In winamp it always seemed off beat
[06:43] <sfire> amin81: the only thing I can possibly think of that could cause it is if it is configured to use some kind of proxy by mistake
[06:43] <jzilla> have you toy'd with the collection aspect of the program yet?
[06:43] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:43] <amin81> sfire: no, it is not using proxy
[06:43] <amin81> sfire: let me doublecheck though
[06:43] <sfire> make sure its set to connect to the internet directly
[06:44] <amin81> sfire: it is set to connect directly
[06:44] <Daisuke_Ido> turns out switching mountpoints is easier than i thought (with kcontrol)
[06:45] <amin81> someone please help me, dont want to use winblows!
[06:45] <jzilla> what's up
[06:46] <jzilla> net problems?
[06:46] <amin81> llutz: are oyu still on the problem or did you give up?
[06:46] <DexterF> !nfs
[06:46] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:47] <llutz> amin81: actually i don't have any nearly intelligent idea :(
[06:47] <amin81> llutz: ok
[06:47] <amin81> llutz: thanks alot for your help though
[06:47] <sfire> I have a suggestion
[06:47] <sfire> but its some work
[06:48] <llutz> amin81: i fear i wasn't very helpfull
[06:48] <sfire> seeing the guy before had you change some configuration settings manually you may want to consider re-installing (keeping your home partition) and seeing if ti works
[06:49] <magicmike> Thanks guys. I still don't know how to navigate in terminal but so what.
[06:49] <sfire> without knowing what he did it would be hard for me to tell you what to do ... now with a default install I could help.. but most likely it would just work
[06:49] <amin81> llutz: we didnt solve the problem but you put your time and effort to it
[06:49] <sfire> amin81: ^^
[06:49] <amin81> sfire: how so I keep my home?
[06:50] <amin81> sfire: "how DO I" I mean. :)
[06:50] <sfire> depending on how you partitioned your hard drive you should have a /home/ partition
[06:50] <sfire> (i do believe that is the default)
[06:50] <sfire> just don't let it format it during the install
[06:50] <amin81> sfire: yes, I have one /home
[06:50] <sfire> but tell it to format the others
[06:50] <amin81> sfire: alright
[06:51] <sfire> my guess is that it'll work right out of the box
[06:51] <amin81> sfire: i will try
[06:51] <sfire> I think he had you change some configuration file you can't remember now and thats really causing the issue
[06:51] <llutz> sfire: re-installation shouldn't be the solution of a problem but unfortunately it may help :(
[06:51] <amin81> sfire: no, all I changed was the interface
[06:52] <sfire> its not the optimal solution of course.. but it works when you don't know what has been done to the configuration files
[06:52] <sfire> and just to return everything to stock
[06:52] <llutz> amin81: one more: please paste output of "ifconfig eth0" "route -n" "cat /etc/resolv.conf" to pastebin
[06:53] <amin81> everyone who helped me: thanks alot for your help!
[06:53] <llutz> sfire: i see what you mean, but it "scratches my pride"
[06:54] <enzo_> Hello all. Any recommendations for a PCMCIA Ethernet Card to use with Kubuntu?
[06:54] <enzo_> Edgy Eft if that matters
[06:55] <optix> any ideas why my wireless would be dropping packets? :(
[06:55] <llutz> optix: weak link, powersaving enabled?
[06:55] <enzo_> optix: Anything in the way?
[06:56] <sfire> optix: type this 'iwconfig'
[06:56] <optix> llutz, the router is not 2 feet
[06:56] <optix> sfire, done
[06:56] <sfire> optix: what is the signal and noise levels?
[06:56] <optix> Signal level=-48 dBm  Noise level=-71 dBm
[06:56] <sfire> did you try another channel?
[06:57] <DexterF> !real
[06:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:57] <optix> no - let me go change that
[06:57] <optix> I just have it set on auto.
[06:57] <sfire> thats generally not good
[06:58] <chris__> help
[06:59] <chris__> how can i comp a file
[06:59] <sfire> compare?
[06:59] <chris__> compil lo
[06:59] <llutz> chris__: cmp file1 file2
[06:59] <chris__> i just got 1 file
[07:00] <enzo_> Does it matter what I choose for my laptop's Ethernet Card? (PCMCIA = PC Card)
[07:00] <llutz> chris__: gcc -o outfile infile
[07:00] <chris__> ok but where's the infile lol
[07:00] <darksoul> ermm hi all
[07:00] <jason___> hi
[07:00] <darksoul> can someone pls help me on Kubuntu?
[07:01] <sfire> enzo_: most everything is fairly well supported
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> having some issues in qtparted
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> got rid of /dev/hdb5 (deleted the partition) and committed the change
[07:01] <darksoul> i am a new user and i cannot use the adept_updater
[07:01] <enzo_> sfire: Is there anything in particular that I should see/read prior to purchasing for my laptop?
[07:01] <darksoul> cause it needs the passwords
[07:01] <darksoul> password*
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> darksoul: use your apssword
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> password*
[07:02] <darksoul> Daisuke i did
[07:02] <darksoul> it is not accepted :S
[07:02] <sfire> enzo_: see PM
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> is there another user on that machine?
[07:02] <darksoul> nope
[07:02] <darksoul> i just installed them
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> are you sure you typed your password correctly
[07:02] <enzo_> What PM?
[07:03] <NickPresta> darksoul, the password should be the password you use to login and such. If it isn't accepted, you more-than-likely typed it wrong.
[07:03] <enzo_> sfire: What PM?
[07:03] <Daisuke_Ido> because adept (And all programs that require root access) use your password as default, not a root password
[07:03] <darksoul> brb changed my password
[07:03] <darksoul> reloging
[07:04] <NickPresta> enzo_, I believe PM stands for private message/whisper.
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> anyway...  i can't make any changes to that drive now, and i can't figure out why...
[07:04] <enzo_> NickPresta: I meant "What PM? I didn't receive one"
[07:04] <NickPresta> enzo_, oh sorry. I misread your question. It's very early :P
[07:05] <darksoul> ok it worked now
[07:05] <sfire> hmm... must be I can't send PMs for some reason
[07:05] <enzo_> NickPresta: It's ok. I deal with online chats at work... I know about misunderstandings
[07:05] <Daisuke_Ido> sfire: register your nick
[07:06] <Tm_T> hi kids
[07:06] <Tm_T> long time no abc
[07:06] <Daisuke_Ido> hey Tm_T
[07:06] <yurimxpxman> what can I use to convert mpeg2 to ogg theora?
[07:06] <Daisuke_Ido> make my parted work :P
[07:06] <Tm_T> Daisuke_Ido: use axe, large one
[07:06] <Tm_T> that make them parted
[07:07] <Daisuke_Ido> qtparted, that is
[07:08] <sivaji> Daisuke_Ido all the menus and buttons remain inactive in  my qtparted
[07:08] <llutz> yurimxpxman: vls, transcode, ffmpeg2theora
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> to summarize: deleted 10gb partition.  committed changes.  cannot make any more changes to the drive.  don't know why.
[07:08] <chris__> maybe someone can help me burning cdi image files
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> swap space is on that drive
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> chris__: you can't, directly
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> acetoneiso
[07:09] <yurimxpxman> llutz: ffmpeg2theora is great! Thanks :-)
[07:11] <jriachi> I have made a icon for my music folder... :) http://nethen.org/misc/kde_bluefolder_music.png
[07:11] <timd> can anyone in here watch a DVD on their comp?
[07:11] <DemonSamurai> ermm anyone available atm? still need some help with things
[07:11] <FSHero> oops, sorry for typing garbage.
[07:11] <jhutchins> Does the k3b on the live CD not burn DVD's for some reason?
[07:11] <xerosis> DemonSamurai: what's up?
[07:11] <chris__> i downloaded acetone iso but all i got is a deb file
[07:12] <chris__> what to do ith it?
[07:12] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, use GParted , it's much better than qtparted...very  stable live cd
[07:14] <NickPresta> jhutchins, I've burnt many DVDs with K3B. What seems to be your problem?
[07:14] <BluesKaj> chris__, right click on the deb file and choose actions , there you will see the install option
[07:14] <xerosis> timd: I can, have you added the dvd codec?
[07:15] <chris__> ok BluesKaj
[07:15] <timd> nope, could you help me with that?
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: if you were a girl i'd kiss you
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> but you're not, so you're just going to have to cope with a manly pat on the back
[07:16] <jhutchins> Where'd he go?
[07:16] <timd> xerosis: nope, could you help me with that?
[07:16] <jhutchins> I burn DVD's all the time from a HD install, but the live CD doesn't detect the DVD drive as writable.
[07:16] <chris__> and now its installed right?
[07:16] <Kartibok> timd: Have a look at this page...it should set you right. Helped me watch dvds and the like...http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html
[07:16] <xerosis> timd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:17] <Kartibok> xerosis: sorry for butting in
[07:17] <BluesKaj> hehe chris__, and i'm ugly too :)
[07:17] <xerosis> Kartibok: no problem :)
[07:17] <chris__> cant install it it says it lacks some packages :(
[07:19] <BluesKaj> chris__, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=44805&forumpage=8&PHPSESSID=39b81e126c7faebe4141619dc4223dee
[07:20] <chris__> sanx
[07:22] <chris__> ok and now?
[07:22] <chris__> how can i install this?
[07:22] <chris__> make all?
[07:26] <BluesKaj> chris__, right click on the deb file , choose "Kubuntu Package Menu"
[07:27] <chris__> but i didnt isntall the fuseisios files!
[07:27] <chris__> no matter?
[07:27] <nullkuhl> guys , how to install xgl + beryl on ati in fiesty ? (if u have a link 4 a guide pls write it) cause the one on beryl site is deleted...
[07:27] <snowdonkey> Hi, I want to compile a new kernel but I don't know at which step I'm supposed to enable SATA support.
[07:28] <snowdonkey> I'm using the guide here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158&highlight=master+kernel
[07:29] <nullkuhl> guys , how to install xgl + beryl on ati in fiesty ? (if u have a link 4 a guide pls write it) cause the one on beryl site is deleted...
[07:29] <chris__> where do i extract the fuseisos files?
[07:32] <epocolis> help
[07:32] <epocolis> i just installed fiesty
[07:32] <epocolis> i am using apt-get install
[07:33] <epocolis> but the connection times out each time
[07:33] <epocolis> anybody there
[07:34] <xerosis> epocolis: sounds like a dodgy internet connection...
[07:34] <epocolis> i connect to the internet okay otherwise
[07:34] <epocolis> wget works fine
[07:35] <epocolis> its just the update tools
[07:35] <hd> Hi
[07:35] <hd> Bye
[07:35] <epocolis> apt, update-manager
[07:35] <epocolis> etc
[07:36] <xerosis> epocolis: what server are you getting a from? a country one or the main server?
[07:36] <Admiral_Chicago> what command can i run to print which shell i am using
[07:36] <llutz> Admiral_Chicago: echo $SHELL
[07:37] <timd> how can I set my USB headset to be my audio source for everything
[07:37] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks llutz
[07:37] <epocolis> xerosis, let me check
[07:39] <tafsen__> Hi
 USA server
[07:39] <timd> anyone?
[07:39] <xerosis> epocolis: could try changing it to the main server?
[07:39] <epocolis> ok
[07:40] <epocolis> xerosis : will try that now
[07:40] <snowdonkey> How do I enable SATA support when I'm compiling a new kernel?
[07:41] <BluesKaj> timd, you mean you want all the sources to link to your headset ?
[07:41] <keith> I install Kumbutu and did a update and now adept won't allow me to add/remove programs
[07:41] <timd> right like my output and input all going through the USB headset
[07:41] <timd> trying to watch a movie and i'm not getting any audio
[07:42] <epocolis> kieth: maybe apt-manager is still running
[07:42] <epocolis> check your processes
[07:42] <keith> nope checked that already
[07:42] <xerosis> keith: is it the database lock thing?
[07:42] <xerosis> adept borks it sometimes
[07:43] <keith> I yes
[07:43] <xerosis> keith: i think you run 'apt-get -f install' to fix it
[07:43] <xerosis> keith: but it might not be that
[07:44] <chris__> noxw that i got acetoneiso, what should i do with cdi files?
[07:44] <timd> maybe an easier way would be, how do i disable the onboard sound device? it seems to want to go to that instead of my headset
[07:44] <sfire> keith: if the database is locked and no other copies are running you need to remove the lock file
[07:45] <epocolis> xerosis: changing the source server didnt work
[07:45] <keith> how do I do that
[07:45] <xerosis> epocolis: :(
[07:45] <epocolis>  xerosis : thats not good
[07:45] <BluesKaj> timd in Kmix, make sure capture is on and make sure the source switch IEC958 playback is set to PCM
[07:46] <sfire> keith: delete the lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[07:46] <chris__> ???
[07:46] <keith> what is the command to unlock the file
[07:46] <timd> BluesKaj: you're speaking greek :)
[07:46] <sfire> keith: 'rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[07:47] <hvralpha> keith, run sudo dpkg --configure -a in terminal and see if iit works
[07:47] <leonardo> bla
[07:47] <epocolis> xerosis: i am going to post it on the ubuntu forum
[07:47] <BluesKaj> Kmix is the mixer that in the little speaker in the panel
[07:48] <BluesKaj> timd, Kmix is the mixer that in the little speaker in the panel
[07:48] <timd> right...
[07:48] <BluesKaj> timd in Kmix, make sure capture is on and make sure the source switch IEC958 playback is set to PCM
[07:49] <hd> Who know a hacker chanell ???
[07:49] <chris__> what is $path?
[07:49] <nullkuhl> guys i have just installed xgl and made a new session for it, am in this session now, first its kinda slow , also 3d support is off : Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".direct rendering: No ... plz help
[07:50] <sfire> keith: oops... the command would be 'sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock'  ... the sudo will probably be required to do it
[07:50] <jzilla> im 30 seconds from formating back to a 32bit enviroment, somebody stop me
[07:50] <sfire> 64bit blows
[07:50] <timd> BluesKaj: that's all selected, still no audio
[07:50] <BluesKaj> then in the terminal type,  "alsamixer" , unmute the source ctrls that you need by using the arrow keys to highlight the cntrls ,and the letterM to mute or unmute the source cntrls
[07:51] <BluesKaj> Mute=MM , unmuted=00
[07:52] <timd> sorry in what terminal?
[07:52] <timd> i'm very new to linux
[07:52] <timd> and kubuntu
[07:52] <BluesKaj> alsamixer
[07:52] <timd> where is that?
[07:52] <chris__>  :fffffffffff
[07:52] <chris__> help!
[07:52] <BluesKaj> the Konsole , in the K-menu
[07:53] <sfire> timd: goto start ----- > system ----> Konsole
[07:53] <hvralpha> terminal ius under system
[07:53] <chris__> how do i install somr tar gz files
[07:53] <GrueTamer> chris__: you need to extract it first, and probably compile it
[07:54] <chris__> compile it xhere lol
[07:54] <chris__> where
[07:54] <sfire> chris__: 'gzip -d filename'   then  'tar -xf filename'
[07:54] <timd> still nothing :(
[07:55] <timd> i unmuted everything
[07:55] <sfire> timd: does your card have a digital output?
[07:55] <timd> i am trying to use a USB headset
[07:56] <sfire> ahhh.. nevermind
[07:57] <chris__> thats all?
[07:57] <chris__> and its compiled?
[07:57] <chris__> nice
[07:57] <sfire> no
[07:57] <jzilla> at this point, you've just unpacked it
[07:57] <sfire> thats decompressed and untared
[07:57] <chris__> ok
[07:57] <chris__> and now?
[07:57] <chris__> lol
[07:57] <sfire> ./configure, make, make install    usually
[07:58] <BluesKaj> well timd , try this tutorial, you can get your linux feet wet on this ...it's relatively straightforward and it should solve your problem : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF)
[07:58] <sfire> those are seperate commands.... './configure' 'make' 'sudo make install'
[07:58] <llutz> try to avoid "make install", use at least checkinstall to build .debs
[07:58] <DemonSamurai> anyone using wine?
[07:58] <coreymon77> DemonSamurai: depends for what
[07:59] <BluesKaj> for some things yes , DemonSamurai
[07:59] <coreymon77> DemonSamurai: for somethings, yes
[07:59] <coreymon77> DemonSamurai: why?
[07:59] <chris__> ARGH
[07:59] <hd> bye
[07:59] <DemonSamurai> ermm i am on Kubuntu amd64 and i cannot download/install it
[07:59] <coreymon77> DemonSamurai: apt?
[08:00] <DJServers> yo
[08:00] <coreymon77> DemonSamurai: did you try using apt?
[08:00] <Dragnslcr> DemonSamurai- I think you have to add Wine's repository to your sources list
[08:00] <DemonSamurai> yes
[08:00] <DemonSamurai> i did
[08:00] <DemonSamurai> but it sais it is not available or something
[08:00] <coreymon77> DemonSamurai: you sure you used the amd64 version, not the x86 one?
[08:01] <coreymon77> DemonSamurai: you have to add the repo
[08:01] <DemonSamurai> kubuntu 7.4 amd64
[08:01] <hvralpha> Did anybody install skype on amd64 succesfully?
[08:02] <chris__> and how do i comp a dir then?
[08:02] <sfire> chris__: see my above instructions
[08:02] <chris__> i tried but nothing
[08:03] <sfire> what did you get when you typed './configure'  ??
[08:03] <sfire> errors?
[08:03] <chris__> is up to date
[08:03] <chris__> means its ok?
[08:03] <sfire> how about after the 'make' command?
[08:04] <chris__> thats this
[08:04] <chris__> "cdirip is up to date"
[08:04] <sfire> are you sure it didn't just install it?
[08:04] <sfire> try the command for it and see if its working
[08:05] <chris__> nope
[08:05] <chris__> nothing
[08:05] <sfire> hard to say if you didn't get errors.. have to ask someone with more skills than me
[08:06] <chris__> ok
[08:06] <hvralpha> bye
[08:06] <ardchoille> chris__: Which app are you compiling?
[08:06] <CPrgmSwR2> How do I install a .deb file through command line
[08:06] <BluesKaj> ./
[08:06] <llutz> CPrgmSwR2: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[08:06] <chris__> cdirip
[08:07] <Tm_T> sudp dpkg -i /path/package.deb
[08:07] <ardchoille> CPrgmSwR2: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[08:07] <coreymon77> CPrgmSwR2: are you sure you cant use apt instead
[08:07] <coreymon77> CPrgmSwR2: because installing with a deb wont fix broken dependencies
[08:07] <chris__> a tool to rip cdi images as linux dont seem to burn them
[08:07] <sercik> Hi to all!
[08:07] <BluesKaj> hi Tm_T
[08:08] <BluesKaj> sercik
[08:08] <Tm_T> howdy (:
[08:08] <sercik> telleme BluesKaj
[08:08] <sercik> which program creates cdi images?
[08:08] <BluesKaj> dunno
[08:09] <BluesKaj> acetoneiso
[08:09] <chris__> discjuggler
[08:09] <chris__> sercik ^
[08:09] <sercik> non famous program
[08:09] <sercik> yes chris__
[08:09] <chris__> nope but its excellent to burn
[08:09] <Minataku> Linux doesn't burn CDIs, you have to split them apart and burn them multisession
[08:09] <Minataku> I've had to do it for Dreamcast games
[08:09] <sercik> interesting!
[08:09] <BluesKaj> couldn't get acetoniso to work chris__ ?
[08:10] <sercik> Minataku exists a good emultor for pc?
[08:10] <Minataku> sercik: Not yet
[08:10] <chris__> its DC games i want to burn actually :p
[08:10] <Minataku> I have a real DC
[08:10] <Minataku> chris__: I figured as much
[08:10] <sercik> ok
[08:10] <timd> usb audio still isn't working :/
[08:10] <chris__> acetoneiso cant seem to load cdi images
[08:10] <BluesKaj> ok
[08:10] <chris__> but its said that it could
[08:10] <chris__> i juste didnt understood totally lol
[08:10] <sercik> i have a big problem sith network on ubuntu
[08:10] <BluesKaj> never tied those image files
[08:10] <BluesKaj> tried
[08:10] <Minataku> chris__: You know what
[08:11] <Minataku> Take my copy
[08:11] <sercik> my lan connection don't work after sone time
[08:11] <Minataku> I have a static-compiled one, it seems
[08:11] <BluesKaj> cdi images..what are they ?
[08:11] <chris__> ??? minattaku
[08:12] <chris__> your copy of
[08:12] <sercik> i use kubuntu from some days but in the last days network don't work properly
[08:12] <Minataku> chris__: Try this on for size >> http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/noaccess/cdirip.static
[08:12] <BluesKaj> cd iso's ?
[08:12] <chris__> what do i do with thids?
[08:12] <Minataku> chris__: Run it
[08:12] <chris__> just laucnh it?
[08:12] <chris__> ok ;)
[08:12] <Minataku> Yeah
[08:12] <Minataku> Tell me if it works
[08:13] <Minataku> It is specific to Piyoko (my system here) but it's statically linked
[08:13] <Minataku> So there shouldn't be any library issues
[08:13] <chris__> i just doublicliked it
[08:13] <chris__> nothing
[08:13] <sercik> chris__ you are using linux not windows
[08:13] <chris__> lol
[08:13] <sercik> execute it on a konsole
[08:13] <mc__> chris__: start it from the console,so that we can see evenutal error messages
[08:13] <Minataku> Yeah
[08:14] <chris__> command not found
[08:14] <sercik> and probavly he need to make it executale or not
[08:14] <sercik> ??
[08:14] <Minataku> You need "./cdirip"
[08:14] <snowdonkey> Hi, how do I enable SATA support when compiling a new kernel?  I'm following "Master Kernel" directions but they don't say how: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158&highlight=master+kernel
[08:14] <sercik> chris__ go in directory you have downloaded
[08:14] <sercik> then do ls -l
[08:14] <Minataku> And yes, you may have to "chmod o+x cdirip.static"
[08:14] <chris__> yep
[08:14] <sercik> to see if it is executable
[08:14] <Minataku> Then "./cdirip.static"
[08:14] <sercik> then if is do ./cdirip.static
[08:15] <sercik> sometimes when you download a file it lost executable flag
[08:15] <Minataku> It's an older version, 0.5a, current is 0.6.2
[08:15] <BluesKaj> you can make most files executable in prperties
[08:16] <sercik> BluesKaj we are using linux not windows :)
[08:16] <sercik> the power of linux is the commandline
[08:16] <Minataku> Plus it's a CLI app
[08:16] <Minataku> No GUI to it at all
[08:16] <sercik> slaps??
[08:16] <Tm_T> yup
[08:16] <sercik> what do you mean?
[08:16] <lupul> !ati
[08:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:17] <sercik> claps?
[08:17] <chris__> nothing
[08:17] <chris__> :(
[08:17] <Tm_T> you don't know slap?
[08:17] <BluesKaj> sercik, itworks
[08:17] <sercik> no sorry
[08:17] <Minataku> chris__: Any errors?
[08:17] <Tm_T> sercik: sort of hitting but open hand
[08:17] <chris__> chris@chris-desktop:~$ ./cdrip.static
[08:17] <chris__> bash: ./cdrip.static: No such file or directory
[08:17] <Minataku> cdirip
[08:17] <sercik> Tm_T is not a good thing
[08:17] <akaAKAaka> * does anybody know if exist an opensource program that is able to talk with slype users???
[08:17] <Minataku> cdirip.static
[08:17] <sercik> i understood it
[08:18] <Tm_T> I'm not good
[08:18] <Minataku> You spelled it wrong
[08:18] <Minataku> lol
[08:18] <Minataku> You should be fine provided you have at least a Pentium 4
[08:18] <Tm_T> !skype
[08:18] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:18] <Minataku> Since that's what it's compiled for
[08:18] <akaAKAaka> *sorry, SKYPE i mean, not slype :-)
[08:18] <Tm_T> akaAKAaka: so no
[08:18] <Minataku> If not I'll make you a 386 version
[08:18] <chris__> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
[08:18] <chris__> my god
[08:18] <sercik> but was a friendly slap i hope!
[08:18] <chris__> im tired i guess
[08:18] <Minataku> chris__: Heehee
[08:18] <Tm_T> sercik: it was, very
[08:19] <chris__> as i used paste everything i did was wrong
[08:19] <Minataku> Heh
[08:19] <sercik> for example to slap someone on the back....
[08:19] <Minataku> chmod o+x cdirip.static
[08:19] <Minataku> ./cdirip.static
[08:19] <sercik> i'm readinf mi dictionary
[08:19] <Minataku> That's what you need
[08:19] <chris__> it says "enter the name of the cdi image
[08:19] <Minataku> chris__: DING DING DING
[08:19] <Minataku> It works
[08:19] <sercik> chris__ enter
[08:20] <chris__> ok
[08:20] <sercik> you can move the images in the same dir
[08:20] <Minataku> Now, there's also a specific way to burn the discs
[08:20] <sercik> so you only need do ./image,cdi
[08:20] <Minataku> I forgot where I stuck those damn directions
[08:20] <Minataku> sercik: It doesn't work like that
[08:20] <sercik> sotty Minataku
[08:20] <Minataku> He has to have the CDI in that directory then type it's name
[08:20] <Minataku> When the program asks for it, that is
[08:20] <sercik> i have told the same
[08:21] <sercik> so he don't need to write path
[08:21] <sercik> but only name of image
[08:21] <Minataku> Ah
[08:21] <jovans> why are the restriced modules 2.6.20-16-29 and the image 2.6.20-16-28?
[08:21] <Minataku> Right, but the ./ isn't needed for the program
[08:21] <Minataku> Sorry, slight misunderstanding
[08:21] <sercik> no problem
[08:22] <sercik> noone knows of a strange problem with network on kubuntu?
[08:22] <sercik> i loose my network connection
[08:22] <stevec_> tighten it
[08:22] <sercik> he works at the beginning but then no me
[08:22] <sercik> he works at the beginning but then no more
[08:23] <Tm_T> jovans: feisty-security/main linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic 2.6.20-16.29
[08:23] <Tm_T> says mine
[08:23] <sercik> Tm_T you are the master of channel?
[08:23] <jovans> but the restricted was not updated
[08:23] <Minataku> chris__: Lemme give you a statically linked copy of 0.6.2
[08:23] <chris__> alright
[08:24] <chris__> :)
[08:24] <Tm_T> jovans: and?
[08:24] <Tm_T> sercik: what?
[08:24] <Tm_T> no I'm not
[08:24] <sercik> you have the @
[08:24] <jovans> the nvidia installer don't work because to blacklist the nv module in restricted modules don't work (/etc/default/restricted-modules-common
[08:25] <Minataku> http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/noaccess/cdirip.static << Same place, same name, just replace the old file with this one
[08:25] <jovans> it is not the same version as the image or the headers
[08:25] <Minataku> Then test it, tell me if it still works XD
[08:25] <Tm_T> sercik: no I don't have
[08:27] <Minataku> chris__: This one's gonna work differently, you'll see the syntax when you test-run it with no arguments
[08:27] <Minataku> As for options, no clue what options there are, I'll give you the site I got it from
[08:27] <chris__> ok
[08:27] <Minataku> http://cdirip.cjb.net/ << Here ya go
[08:27] <Minataku> So did it work?
[08:27] <akaAKAaka> which opensource program is the most used as an anternative to SKYPE ?
[08:27] <chris__> lol wait a minute im gonne try to find again the commands
[08:27] <chris__> upper
[08:28] <chris__> lol
[08:28] <stevec_> akaAKAaka: why can't you use skype?
[08:28] <akaAKAaka> because is not opensource
[08:28] <Minataku> chris__: No need, I'll give them to ya
[08:28] <stevec_> akaAKAaka: and?
[08:28] <chris__> ok
[08:28] <Minataku> chmod o+x cdirip.static
[08:28] <Minataku> ./cdirip.static
[08:29] <chris__> it dont work anymore lol
[08:29] <akaAKAaka> and i use linux in order to boicot the closed source strategy
[08:29] <Minataku> The "./" is used to run programs located in the directory that you're currently in
[08:29] <akaAKAaka> so :)
[08:29] <Minataku> chris__: Heehee, one sec
[08:29] <chris__> root@chris-desktop:/home/chris# chmod o+x cdirip.static
[08:29] <Minataku> Okay, what about running it?
[08:29] <Minataku> Did it say something?
[08:29] <chris__> Usage: cdirip image.cdi [dest_path]  [options] 
[08:29] <chris__> root@chris-desktop:/home/chris#
[08:30] <akaAKAaka> does anyone know what is the most used alternative to skype?
[08:30] <stevec_> akaAKAaka: don't know of any, i'd just use skypre
[08:30] <stevec_> skype even
[08:30] <akaAKAaka> ok, thx stevec_
[08:30] <Minataku> chris__: Oh, it does work
[08:30] <Minataku> Okay
[08:31] <chris__> :)
[08:31] <Minataku> chris__: Enjoy
[08:31] <Minataku> Oh, BTW
[08:31] <chris__> and now all i got to do is to do this
[08:31] <Minataku> If you want to be able to run it from anywhere
[08:31] <Minataku> Type "sudo cp cdirip.static /usr/bin"
[08:32] <chris__> root@chris-desktop:/home/chris# cdirip SOA_CD1_ECH.cdi
[08:32] <chris__> bash: cdirip: command not found
[08:32] <chris__> WTF
[08:32] <chris__> lol
[08:32] <Minataku> You can also rename it to just cdirip if you wish
[08:32] <Minataku> chris__: All you have is the binary, it's not installed
[08:32] <Minataku> Here, type this
[08:32] <Minataku> sudo cp cdirip.static /usr/bin/cdirip
[08:32] <Minataku> THEN try that same command ;3
[08:33] <Minataku> You should get a couple segments and a cuesheet
[08:33] <Minataku> Like, three .iso pieces and a .cue
[08:33] <chris__> Unsupported image version
[08:33] <chris__> ARGH
[08:33] <Minataku> >.<
[08:33] <ubuntu_> hey guys.
[08:33] <chris__> LOL
[08:33] <ubuntu_> im in a bitta trouble
[08:33] <ubuntu_> care to help?
[08:33] <ubuntu_> or are you guys busy?
[08:33] <chris__> if i can yes
[08:33] <chris__> nope
[08:33] <ubuntu_> kk
[08:33] <coreymon77> guys
[08:34] <chris__> my image is bad i cant do anything i guess
[08:34] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: hello
[08:34] <coreymon77> isnt qtparted able to resize ntfs partitions without formatting?
[08:34] <Minataku> chris__: I've done all I can do, sorry XD
[08:34] <ubuntu_> hi all
[08:34] <chris__> yes
[08:34] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: nope... the busy people are over at #ubuntu
[08:34] <stevec_> new clothes mights help
[08:34] <chris__> :(
[08:34] <Minataku> The last version of cdirip is from 2002
[08:34] <stevec_> change yer hair style anarl
[08:34] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: not if its Vista's
[08:34] <BluesKaj> chris__, altho i haven't worked with any ,, the new Acetoneiso2 appears to be able to merge split image files
[08:34] <ubuntu_> okay, so im in teh live cd right now
[08:35] <ubuntu_> my kubuntu install is wonky
[08:35] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Doesn't matter, this old-ass version of cdirip can't handle newer CDI images |O
[08:35] <chris__> yes i downloaded it too
[08:35] <Minataku> Kinda looks like Geordi
[08:35] <BluesKaj> Minataku, bummer :(
[08:35] <chris__> im gonna see if it works too
[08:35] <ubuntu_> in an attempt to get chinese on my computer, i followed the kde instructions at http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[08:35] <ubuntu_> and now im dead
[08:35] <Minataku> BluesKaj: He's got "installed" a statically-compiled cdirip from my machine here :D
[08:36] <BluesKaj> !cn | ubuntu_
[08:36] <ubotu> ubuntu_: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[08:36] <ubuntu_> no
[08:36] <Minataku> The install process being a simple copy operation to /usr/bin
[08:36] <ubuntu_> i know english
[08:36] <Minataku> :3
[08:36] <ubuntu_> i just wanted chinese input
[08:36] <Minataku> Which is technically all install is
[08:36] <ubuntu_> but i went to said website
[08:36] <ubuntu_> and did
[08:36] <ubuntu_> sudo aptitude install uim anthy scim-gtk2-immodule scim-uim scim-chinese scim-hangul scim-tables-zh
[08:37] <ubuntu_> afterwards, i did a sudo aptitude remove uim anthy scim-gtk2-immodule scim-uim scim-chinese scim-hangul scim-tables-zh
[08:37] <chris__> lol
[08:37] <chris__> and then?
[08:37] <ubuntu_> and now whenever i start kde
[08:37] <ubuntu_> kate opens
[08:37] <ubuntu_> with ~/.kde/Autostart/startscim
[08:37] <Minataku> Easy
[08:37] <BluesKaj> what file is kate opening ?
[08:37] <Minataku> rm ~/.kde/Autostart/startscim
[08:37] <BluesKaj> ok
[08:38] <ubuntu_> hmm
[08:38] <ubuntu_> rm?
[08:38] <ubuntu_> whats that command
[08:38] <Minataku> ReMove
[08:38] <ubuntu_> okay
[08:38] <ubuntu_> so the thing is, i need to mount my partition
[08:38] <BluesKaj> hehe
[08:38] <ubuntu_> inside the live cd
[08:38] <ubuntu_> cuz konsole hates me in teh kde environment
[08:38] <ubuntu_> i installed
[08:38] <Minataku> Looks like whoever made the package didn't do a cleanup properly
[08:38] <Minataku> ubuntu_: No need
[08:38] <Minataku> Use a VT
[08:38] <ubuntu_> vt?
[08:38] <Minataku> When it boots into the installed system, hit Ctrl+Alt+F1
[08:38] <coreymon77> everyone
[08:39] <Minataku> Login there and type the command
[08:39] <coreymon77> how do you resize ntfs partitions without reformatting
[08:39] <ubuntu_> hm
[08:39] <coreymon77> i though qtparted could do it
[08:39] <Minataku> Then hit Alt+F7 then Ctrl+Alt+BkSp
[08:39] <ubuntu_> will that also solve my other issues?
[08:39] <ardchoille> !ntfs
[08:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:39] <Minataku> ubuntu_: What other issues?
[08:39] <ubuntu_> everything on teh computer is slow-like
[08:39] <chris__> haha partitions
[08:39] <akaAKAaka> hi to all!!!
[08:39] <Minataku> It might
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: are you trying to resize a vista partiton?
[08:39] <ubuntu_> if i terminate kate
[08:39] <Minataku> But one problem at a time
[08:39] <ubuntu_> it'll keep giving me a error windoow
[08:39] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: no, xp
[08:40] <Minataku> First, do that and remove that file
[08:40] <ubuntu_> okay
[08:40] <sito> what is the difference of kernel i386 and generic?
[08:40] <Minataku> Then restart X11
[08:40] <ubuntu_> reboot into kde?
[08:40] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: hmmm well it can then. what makes you think it can't?
[08:40] <ubuntu_> or can i do it from the live cd, seeing as how i already in it
[08:40] <akaAKAaka> how to install java runtime edition in my kubuntu??? i typed "java" in adept_manager but there isn't so much.. should i add another repo???
[08:40] <Minataku> ubuntu_: You can, but you have to mount the filesystem
[08:40] <AFaith> hello kubuntu users :P
[08:40] <ubuntu_> hmmm
[08:40] <ubuntu_> okay
[08:40] <ubuntu_> i'll get back to you
[08:40] <Minataku> k
[08:40] <ubuntu_> from inside kubuntu
[08:40] <chris__> java
[08:41] <chris__> is good for phones
[08:41] <chris__> no for vcomputers
[08:41] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: its not
[08:41] <sito> what is the difference of kernel i386 and generic?
[08:41] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: the option is grayed out
[08:41] <akaAKAaka> how to install java runtime edition in my kubuntu??? i typed "java" in adept_manager but there isn't so much.. should i add another repo???
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: are you running it as root?
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> AFaith: hello.!
[08:42] <coreymon77> yup
[08:42] <AFaith> i've just installed open arena on my feisty box
[08:42] <Minataku> chris__: That cdirip binary is probably the most optimized bin you have; It's compiled for a Pentium 4 with MMX, SSE and SSE2 with optimization level 3
[08:42] <chris__> feisty box?
[08:42] <Minataku> XD
[08:42] <nosrednaekim> hmm.
[08:42] <chris__> lol
[08:42] <BluesKaj> akaAKAaka, go to youtube
[08:42] <Minataku> I believe most stock *buntu bins are compiled -O0 and for a 386 :3
[08:42] <AFaith> hello there nosrednaekim! i've almost forgot to say hello :P
[08:43] <AFaith> hello BluesKaj! my old mate from Kubuntu channel :P
[08:43] <BluesKaj> err sorry akaAKAaka java.com
[08:43] <akaAKAaka> ah ok :) thanks
[08:43] <akaAKAaka> and what about updates?
[08:43] <akaAKAaka> should i update manually???
[08:43] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Let me guess "Go to YouTube and forget you were ever here asking about Java"
[08:43] <Minataku> XD
[08:43] <BluesKaj> hi AFaith , I'm still here
[08:44] <BluesKaj> was thinking flash Minataku
[08:44] <Minataku> Heehee
[08:44] <AFaith> i see ... how it's going ? everything ok ? how's your life :P ?
[08:44] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: nvm, fixed it
[08:44] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: what was the problem?
[08:44] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: needed ntfsprogs
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: ok..
[08:45] <BluesKaj> good on all fronts here AFaith ...how are you doing ?
[08:45] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: i would have thought that apt would install that along with qtparted
[08:46] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: but i guess it didnt
[08:46] <AFaith> i'm very glad to hear that BluesKaj! i'm not doing so well, but what a hell, i'm alive and thats the most important thing, isnt't it ? :)) and my feisty box is running, so... that compensates all other minor problems if i can name them like this
[08:46] <akaAKAaka> i don't want to loose the security side of the autoupate for java.. any ideas?
[08:48] <BluesKaj> akaAKAaka, this is linux ...don't think you should worry
[08:49] <nullkuhl> i have beryl runnin on xgl in feisty with ati card,,, its workin so fine with the core downgrade to version 2.0 ,,, but i have no direct rendering in this session Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display "localhost:1.0". direct rendering:
[08:49] <cox377> does anyone know a command that will restart all usb devices?
[08:49] <ubuntu_> hey guys
[08:49] <ubuntu_> this is my windoze lappy
[08:49] <ubuntu_> i need to know the command to enter command line again
[08:50] <akaAKAaka> ok i solved the problem
[08:50] <akaAKAaka> $ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[08:50] <ubuntu_> where it asks for username and passwd
[08:51] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt+F1
[08:51] <nullkuhl> i have beryl runnin on xgl in feisty with ati card,,, its workin so fine with the core downgrade to version 2.0 ,,, but i have no direct rendering in this session Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display "localhost:1.0". direct rendering:
[08:51] <Minataku> ubuntu_: Enter the username and password of you
[08:52] <Minataku> rm ~/.kde/Autostart/startscim
[08:52] <aroo> I have my wifi card working perfectly with ndiswrapper, but I have to set it all up each time at boot, is there anyway to get it to work on boot?
[08:52] <naeo> can someone help me with my xorg.conf? I installed kubuntu with VGA. But now i have switched to HDMI. I've set up kdm to autologin(But it does not login). I'm using the nvidia binarydriver, and the module is running.. I've run nvidia-xconfig. I also set up things with nvidia-settings(I set resolution to AUTO). Still.. nothing displayed on the TV... And its only connected with the HDMI cable..
[08:52] <Minataku> Then hit Ctrl+Alt+F7 to switch back to X11 and hit Ctrl+Alt+BkSp to restart it
[08:52] <naeo> http://pastebin.ca/556731
[08:53] <BluesKaj> nullkuhl, this tutorial may conflict with xgl , but the modded and patched fglrx driver should run beryl http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty...but I dunno fore sure :
[08:53] <ubuntu_> file does not exist...
[08:53] <Scabdates> howdy
[08:53] <Minataku> ubuntu_: Oi
[08:53] <Minataku> What files DO exist in there?
[08:53] <ubuntu_> whoops
[08:53] <ubuntu_> i thought it was scimstart
[08:53] <ubuntu_> its startscim
[08:53] <Scabdates> Can anybody help me with my WiFi problems in Kubuntu?
[08:53] <Minataku> Oi
[08:53] <ubuntu_> thank god for the dir command
[08:53] <Minataku> XD
[08:54] <ubuntu_> now ctrl alt backspace?
[08:54] <Minataku> ubuntu_: Ctrl+Alt+F7 first
[08:54] <Minataku> Then login to KDE
[08:54] <ubuntu_> kk
[08:54] <Minataku> It _should_ be fixed now
[08:54] <lupul> !ATI
[08:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:55] <akaAKAaka> if i have access with "ssh -X" to my second pc, how can i see what's going on in its :0 DISPLAY ?
[08:55] <Minataku> akaAKAaka: Doesn't work like that
[08:55] <ubuntu_> the kde wallet service - kde daemon isnt responding
[08:55] <Scabdates> ?
[08:55] <Minataku> ubuntu_: Can you just click past that?
[08:56] <ubuntu_> i need it to access wireless wep key
[08:56] <Minataku> @.@
[08:56] <akaAKAaka> Minataku: is it possible to do what i said ?
[08:56] <ubuntu_> okay
[08:56] <Minataku> akaAKAaka: Quite possibly, however I don't know how
[08:56] <Scabdates> Does NDISwrapper come with Kubuntu default?
[08:56] <ubuntu_> now i can see the text
[08:56] <payam> Is that true that "The Lord of the Rings"has been made by Linux?
[08:56] <Minataku> I think VNC can do it
[08:57] <ubuntu_> but i cant type my passwd
[08:57] <ubuntu_> in
[08:57] <akaAKAaka> okay.. i'll read around...
[08:57] <ubuntu_> the keyboard wont respond in the kwallet window
[08:57] <Minataku> ubuntu_: Ugh... those input things must have goofed something up
[08:57] <akaAKAaka> killall -9 kwalletmanager
[08:57] <ubuntu_> hmm
[08:57] <payam> Is that true that "The Lord of the Rings"has been made by Linux?
[08:57] <Minataku> ubuntu_: Hang around, I'm stumped at this point
[08:57] <Minataku> payam: I don't know
[08:57] <Minataku> Try Google
[08:58] <ubuntu_> keyboard works everywhere else
[08:58] <Minataku> ubuntu_: Hrm
[08:58] <Minataku> So it's NOT messed up
[08:58] <Minataku> ubuntu_: Type it in and hit enter
[08:58] <Minataku> Maybe it's just not echoing
[08:58] <andres_> i need help with my TV card
[08:58] <ubuntu_> days like this make me hate ubuntu
[08:58] <ubuntu_> and wish for the days when i dual booted
[08:58] <ubuntu_> but enough of that
[08:59] <ubuntu_> urgh
[08:59] <ubuntu_> any ideas?
[09:00] <Minataku> None, sorry, can't imagine why it wouldn't work in just kwallet
[09:00] <ubuntu_> ugh
[09:00] <ubuntu_> HEY IT WORKS
[09:00] <ubuntu_> srry for the caps
[09:00] <Minataku> Cool :D
[09:01] <amin81> rysiek|pl: Hey! whats up?
[09:01] <ubuntu_> and now it doesnt
[09:01] <ubuntu_> i entered like 5 char
[09:01] <ubuntu_> of my 10 char password
[09:01] <Minataku> O.o
[09:01] <ubuntu_> and the KDE Crash Handler is coming up again and again
[09:01] <ubuntu_> from me terminating Kate
[09:01] <amin81> sc0
[09:01] <Minataku> ubuntu_: Yeah, you broke something bad >.<
[09:01] <frano486> ciao a tutti
[09:01] <ubuntu_> damn
[09:02] <ubuntu_> anything i can do to fix it?
[09:02] <Minataku> I can't think of anything, stick around, though
[09:02] <Minataku> I'm sure someone will come along who can
[09:02] <Minataku> !it | frano486
[09:02] <ubotu> frano486: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:02] <Minataku> :3
[09:02] <ubuntu_> dang
[09:02] <frano486> ubotu: sorry
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <Scabdates> :((
[09:03] <Minataku> !info ndiswrapper
[09:03] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:03] <Minataku> Piece of crap
[09:03] <Minataku> !ndiswrapper
[09:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:03] <Minataku> There ya, go, Scabdates
[09:04] <myky> all: testing anyone beryl in notebook grafics card ati xpress 200 if yes plaese help me
[09:04] <Scabdates> it seems like its detecting my card, but it's just not connecting to the internet, and when i try to fix the DNS, IP, and subnet info it tells me the gateway is invalid and won't let me enable it
[09:04] <Minataku> ubuntu_: Just hang around, I'm sure someone can help you out
[09:04] <ubuntu_> sure
[09:05] <ubuntu_> im talking to someone else
[09:05] <ubuntu_> also
[09:05] <ubuntu_> on aim
[09:05] <Minataku> Ah, cool
[09:05] <rysiek|pl> amin81: oh, hey, just hacking around; how about you? :)
[09:05] <Minataku> Scabdates: Set the gateway to that of the router
[09:05] <Minataku> *the IP of the router
[09:05] <zipper> myky: from what i know, you cannot use AIGLX on the 200 series
[09:05] <Scabdates> that's what i did
[09:05] <ankit> hello
[09:05] <Scabdates> i just took my windows settings
[09:05] <Minataku> Scabdates: Hrm
[09:05] <zipper> myky: which makes everything easier
[09:06] <soulrider_> !vmware
[09:06] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
 i need help guys </B>
[09:06] <myky> zipper: i use fglrx
[09:06] <Minataku> Scabdates: DHCP on the router?
[09:06] <Minataku> Or static?
[09:06] <ankit> help me with nerolinux
[09:06] <Scabdates> 192.168.1.1
[09:06] <Scabdates> static
[09:06] <BlueDevil> !virtualizers
[09:06] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[09:07] <zipper> myky: as your driver, yes. But you want to use beryl right? Then AIGLX is the easiest way to go... i gave up when i found out that it cannot be used on that model. It is possible however, just more bothersome. Try asking in #ubuntu-effects for more info
[09:07] <Minataku> Hm
[09:07] <BlueDevil> !virtualbox!
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtualbox! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <Minataku> !kqemu
[09:07] <ubotu> kqemu is a kernel module (now free under the GPL license) for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm86
[09:07] <BlueDevil> !virtualbox
[09:07] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[09:07] <Minataku> Just checking
[09:07] <Scabdates> don't know what could be the problem :(
[09:07] <Minataku> Scabdates: Me either
[09:08] <Scabdates> :9
[09:08] <Scabdates> :(
[09:08] <myky> zipper: thank's very much
[09:08] <gon> !vmware
[09:08] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[09:08] <zipper> myky: np
[09:09] <ankit> can anybody help me with NeroLinux
[09:09] <ankit> can anybody help me with NeroLinux
[09:09] <llutz> ankit: ask ahead, you paid for support
[09:10] <DonMCN> Hey guys, I was in the process of uninstalling Kubuntu from my system, and I did so by going into the Windows CD, fixing the MBR (sucessfully), and then I went into Windows, and went into the Disk Manager and I deleted the 2 partitions made my Kubuntu, but now I just have a 8.5GB unallocated space thing, and I cant get it to add itself to my 1 and only partition.
[09:10] <ankit> i have installed nerolinux 3 but i have entered the key wrong
[09:11] <Scabdates> Minataku: No ideas?
[09:11] <aroo> Is it possible to remove the Kubuntu boot splash?
[09:11] <ankit> can i get .deb file of lower version
[09:12] <jhutchins_lt> So howcome I can't seem to mount an NTFS partition as user readable?  Defaults to root only (I know it's supposed to be ro).
[09:12] <aroo> ro is read only
[09:13] <BluesKaj> DonMCN, reformat the old kubuntu partition to ntfs then you should be able to expand
[09:13] <Minataku> Scabdates: Not one, sorry >.<
[09:13] <DonMCN> The old kubuntu partitions are deleted
[09:14] <DonMCN> and now the only thing listed in Computer Management is C: 20GB NTFS and Unallocated Space 8.54GB
[09:14] <Lucious> can anyone tell me how to setup a new KDM them from inside KDE?
[09:14] <BluesKaj> check the options DonMCN, it should be feasable ...I
[09:15] <yknott> ankit: www.nero.com
[09:15] <BluesKaj> d use GParted Live cd Partition editor
[09:15] <ankit> yaaa but i want lowe version
[09:15] <BluesKaj> discmanager may not be able to do it
[09:15] <DonMCN> yeah I dont have a blank CD lol
[09:16] <jhutchins_lt> Why would anybody run nero if they didn't have to?
[09:16] <Minataku> I had never heard of that Virtualbox
[09:16] <jhutchins_lt> ankit: What's wrong with k3b?
[09:16] <Minataku> I'ma emerge it then mess with it
[09:16] <Minataku> I'll let BluesKaj take over
[09:16] <Minataku> XD
[09:17] <ankit> oh wht's that
[09:17] <DonMCN> can I just use the partition manager in the Kubuntu Live CD?
[09:17] <ankit> i have not tried that
[09:17] <nullkuhl>  i have beryl runnin on xgl in feisty with ati card,,, its workin so fine with the core downgrade to version 2.0 ,,, but i have no direct rendering in this session Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display "localhost:1.0". direct rendering: No
[09:17] <sebastianhooker_> nero has the best name, nero burning rom, who wouldn't want to run something like that?
[09:17] <BluesKaj> well if you must run windows jhutchins, nero's the one utiility that I've found that works
[09:18] <jhutchins_lt> DonMCN: As far as I know, diskmanager won't grow a partition.  You can create a new NTFS partition and join it to the old one, but I wouldn't recommend it.  User patimage to grow the FS instead.
[09:18] <ankit> where is k3b...lol
[09:18] <yknott> multimedia
[09:19] <ankit> ok
[09:19] <ankit> thanks
[09:19] <yknott> or alt+f2  then k3b
[09:19] <jhutchins_lt> Nero on linux.  Shudder.
[09:19] <ankit> hey guys one more thing
[09:19] <blekos> anybody knows how to turn on spellcheck in kmail?
[09:20] <ankit> i have installed ubuntu and i have also installed Kubuntu Kde on ubuntu
[09:20] <BluesKaj> nerolinux, jhutchins_lt :)
[09:20] <jhutchins_lt> The horror.
[09:20] <Lucious> how do i install the applet that allows me to configure KDM and use themes?
[09:21] <ankit> so i have created a DVD in ubuntu ...but that DVD cannot be played on DVD player..but the data can be seen on computer
[09:21] <jhutchins_lt> !themes | Lucious
[09:21] <ubotu> Lucious: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:21] <Lucious> jhutchins: that didn't work :P
[09:21] <binks> jhutchins_lt: i agree nerolinux why *binks shudders too
[09:21] <jhutchins_lt> ankit: The only program I've found that will build a video DVD is tovid.
[09:21] <yknott> ankit: you need to complete the "dvd video" profile; not just data dvd
[09:22] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, between, tovid, k9copy and K3b ...I think I have most of the media stuff covered :)
[09:22] <ankit> hmm....i knew but donot know how to do thaat
[09:22] <binks> ankit: what have you created it using ie tools
[09:22] <jhutchins_lt> tovid is a very nice set of wrapper scripts.
[09:22] <Minataku> !info file
[09:22] <yknott> ankit: which program had you used? k3b just click the video dvd icon
[09:22] <ubotu> file: Determines file type using "magic" numbers. In component main, is standard. Version 4.19-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 120 kB
[09:22] <BluesKaj> tovid rocks!
[09:22] <Minataku> Oh, dear
[09:22] <binks> BluesKaj: avidimux kmediafactory k3b << the best way
[09:23] <jhutchins_lt> Since it's just scripts, it's cool to run the SVN version too.
[09:23] <binks> tovid is great but still the gui is pants
[09:23] <pauljw> blekos: go to create a new message and under options is automatic spellcheck.
[09:23] <BluesKaj> I don't use the tovid GUI
[09:23] <ankit> in k3b ...there is not burn video DVD
[09:23] <jhutchins_lt> I often use the gui's (there are two) to experiment, then use the command they generate to actually make the DVD.
[09:23] <ankit> there is Data dvd and DVD iso
[09:23] <binks> cl is ok unless you need 15 episodes on one disc it gets a little hairy
[09:24] <ankit> where's video DVD i am not able to find it
[09:24] <sebastianhooker_> is there a uTorrent for linux?
[09:24] <yknott> ankit: which k3b do you have?
[09:24] <yknott> sebastianhooker_: no but you can use it through wine
[09:24] <BluesKaj> the cmnds are generated in the cli as well, jhutchins_lt
[09:24] <ankit> i am newbie to linux...so bare with me guys....lol
[09:24] <blekos> cant i have this as default for every msg?
[09:24] <Minataku> Mmmm... soon I shall have Virtualbox, compiled specifically for my system with super optimizations MWAHAHAHAHA
[09:24] <binks> ankit: file newproject
[09:24] <ankit> k3b 3.5.2
[09:24] <Minataku> Compiling things is a perfect excuse to take a nap
[09:24] <Minataku> Y'all don't have that luxury
[09:24] <Minataku> XD
[09:25] <binks> the choose video dvd
[09:25] <ankit> i got it...thanks binks
[09:25] <binks> :)
[09:25] <yknott> ;D
[09:25] <Minataku> Heehee, sorry, getting bored X3
[09:26] <ankit> wow this chat is helpful....i tried on yahoo rooms for help..:(
[09:26] <binks> Minataku: you buildin gentoo or summat
[09:26] <BluesKaj> vitualbox..what you gonna run in it?
[09:26] <Minataku> binks: I use Gentoo, yeah
[09:26] <binks> BluesKaj: i have looked at squeak today for kids programming its in the repos looks cool
[09:27] <Minataku> BluesKaj: I'll grab some kinda PC thing outta my OS collection here
[09:27] <Minataku> See if it's any better than VMWare
[09:27] <Minataku> So far, I'd have to rate them like this
[09:27] <BluesKaj> cool binks
[09:27] <ankit> hey guys one more Q........any one have given IZo-007 exa,...oracle 9i SQL certification
[09:28] <pauljw> i didn't like it as much as vmware server, Minataku.
[09:28] <binks> ankit: your asking for pirate stuff are you
[09:28] <Minataku> Bochs, <EMPTY SLOT>, <EMPTY SLOT>, <EMPTY SLOT>, <EMPTY SLOT>, <EMPTY SLOT>, QEMU+KQEMU, QEMU, VMWare
[09:28] <Minataku> We'll see where VBox ends up
[09:28] <Minataku> As is obvious, I hate Bochs
[09:29] <binks> Minataku: i just hate manchester united
[09:29] <Minataku> Only sports I like is motorsports
[09:29] <Minataku> Minus NASCAR
[09:29] <Minataku> Which is just boring
[09:29] <ankit> no
[09:29] <binks> f1 is soooo boring
[09:29] <Minataku> Not a fan of IRL either
[09:29] <Minataku> I need road courses
[09:30] <nosrednaekim> hello, the titlebars of gtk windows keep disappearing while in Beryl.
[09:30] <Minataku> Otherwise it's like watching golf
[09:30] <nosrednaekim> but all qt windows are ok
[09:30] <ankit> binks: it's certification exam
[09:30] <binks> world rally is great
[09:30] <Minataku> binks: He's asking for cheats
[09:30] <Minataku> lol
[09:30] <Minataku> Rally is great, yeah
[09:30] <binks> well thats what i thought
[09:31] <nosrednaekim> the windows go up into the right hand corner and stick there with not title bars, they do have window borders..
[09:31] <binks> Minataku: i work for BMW in the uk so i get around fast cars alot
[09:31] <Minataku> binks: Cool
[09:31] <ankit> u guys like ubuntu or kubuntu ????????
[09:31] <Minataku> I like Gentoo
[09:31] <jzilla> its personal pref.
[09:31] <jzilla> either gnome or kde
[09:31] <binks> ankit: i like both
[09:31] <ankit> yeaaa
[09:32] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: then why do you hang out here ( not that I don't like you or anything... just wonderin)
[09:32] <Minataku> Eh... GNOME is crap
[09:32] <Billiard> hey guys when i use checkinstall it fails to install the deb and has this error...  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/crtbegin.o', which is also in package gcc-4.1
[09:32] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: I like to help
[09:32] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: yeah... and kubuntu users are easier to help
[09:32] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: Heehee, not really
[09:32] <Minataku> If it's Kubuntu-specific I really can't help all that much
[09:33] <ankit> i found KDE little similar to windows
[09:33] <ankit> .....lol
[09:33] <Minataku> I've realized that for simple apps, I can compile them for people
[09:33] <binks> just imagine the gentoo irc room 4 days between replies coz of compiling
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: lol
[09:33] <Minataku> They'll be a little large because I have to do them statically, though
[09:33] <zipper> binks: but think of the performance gains! At least 0.1% !
[09:33] <binks> ankit: fact is windows is like kde
[09:33] <sebastianhooker_> is there any links that will help me set up SMB sharing?
[09:33] <Minataku> binks: Uh, I'm compiling something as we speak
[09:33] <binks> zipper: looool
[09:33] <ankit> oh...hahaaa
[09:33] <Minataku> So that's neither funny nor accurate.
[09:33] <StErGi0s> hello.My sound card was working fine but now i have no sound anyone can help?
[09:34] <zipper> Minataku: not accurate, but funny none the less :)
[09:34] <binks> Minataku: touchy touchy
[09:34] <Minataku> No, not funny at all.
[09:34] <binks> hands up who laughed
[09:34] <Minataku> If you're gonna be like that you're welcome to leave this channel
[09:34] <zipper> Minataku: So you define whats funny or not? Either way, it made me giggle :)
[09:34] <sebastianhooker_> StErGi0s: restart your computer
[09:34] <Minataku> sebastianhooker_: NO
[09:34] <jzilla> i have /home on my second hd, is it possible to format to a 32bit enviroment without formating /home as well?
[09:34] <Billiard> sebastianhooker_ i can help u with smb
[09:34] <Minataku> That's Windows thinking
[09:34] <binks> Minataku: are you french
[09:35] <StErGi0s> sebastianhooker_: i dont think this is the solution
[09:35] <Minataku> StErGi0s: Check that nothing has reset the mixer controls
[09:35] <Minataku> binks: No
[09:35] <StErGi0s> Minataku: how can i do that? sorry in new to linux :S
[09:36] <Minataku> StErGi0s: I believe Kubuntu has alsamixer
[09:36] <Minataku> !info alsamixer
[09:36] <ubotu> Package alsamixer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:36] <sebastianhooker_> Billiard: why do i get the invalid perameters error?
[09:36] <Minataku> Ah, screw you, ya stupid bot
[09:36] <Minataku> !alsamixer
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <binks> lol
[09:36] <Minataku> !alsa
[09:36] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:36] <Billiard> sebastianhooker_ were u messing with the smb config file?
[09:36] <Minataku> Yeah, arts, that makes things work better... NOT
[09:36] <nosrednaekim> StErGi0s: use kmis and turn all channels and turn up the volume on all channels
[09:36] <Minataku> But follow those directions there
[09:37] <Billiard> sebastianhooker_: go on private chat
[09:37] <sebastianhooker_> StErGi0s: is your computer plugged in?
[09:37] <Minataku> Chances are arts blew up or something stupid like that
[09:37] <sebastianhooker_> Billiard: i am
[09:37] <ankit> hey guys from where can i find old version s/w
[09:37] <nosrednaekim> StErGi0s: sorry... kmix
[09:37] <gon> !epson
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about epson - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <nosrednaekim> sebastianhooker_:  Billiard you have to be registed to privately chat
[09:38] <Billiard> i am
[09:38] <StErGi0s> ok let me have a look
[09:38] <Billiard> also registered
[09:38] <Minataku> Sorry, I'm not one to take jerky jokes about my distro of choice sitting down
[09:38] <sebastianhooker_> Billiard: message me first
[09:38] <sebastianhooker_> Billiard: you are not getting my messages i don't think
[09:38] <Minataku> If you're gonna pick on a distro, pick on Mandriva and it's pay-for-support system
[09:38] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: oh man I hate that... you can't even get a madwifi package!
[09:38] <Billiard> sebastianhooker_ did u do ur password or w/e
[09:38] <Minataku> Imagine, you walk in here and I ask you for your credit card number
[09:38] <Minataku> XD
[09:39] <Minataku> Or your "support contract ID"
[09:39] <sebastianhooker_> Billiard: how?
[09:39] <Billiard> oops
[09:39] <ankit> .
[09:39] <binks> Minataku: it was only a jokeget over it
[09:39] <amin81> rysiek|pl: are you back??
[09:39] <binks> im outa here later all
[09:39] <Minataku> Of course I'd ask you in French, too, since a French distro, gotta be in French, sitting at your "ordinateur" because they're too snooty to use the word "computer"
[09:40] <Billiard> guys how do i type him how to indentify his password
[09:40] <Minataku> Sorry >.<
[09:40] <Billiard> without doing the command
[09:40] <nosrednaekim> then I'd say "adeiu Mandriva"
[09:40] <Minataku> I need a nap, blame that
[09:40] <Minataku> XD
[09:40] <yknott> Minataku: well i can see valid reasons for that
[09:40] <yknott> Billiard: press ctrl+enter
[09:40] <modjo> ummm
[09:40] <BluesKaj> that's why mandriva is called an enterprise OS
[09:40] <Billiard> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[09:40] <myky> zipper: can i ask you how was that  channel?
[09:40] <Billiard> yknott ty
[09:41] <jzilla> I've installed 64bit Kubuntu to /hda1 - with /home on hdb1 - I wish to reformat to a 32 bit environment. Can I do so without formating /home?
[09:41] <modjo> hi, i have some troubles with kaffeine and no one in the kaffeine channel seems to be alive
[09:41] <yknott> jzilla: yes
[09:41] <rysiek|pl> amin81: I'm here all the time, why?
[09:41] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Except it's not. It's a home OS. They just make you pay for any kind of support whatsoever.
[09:41] <myky> zipper: can i ask you how was that  channel?
[09:41] <yknott> modjo: mix it with a healthy dose of alcohol 120%, that should be sufficient
[09:41] <yknott> modjo: ;)
[09:41] <BluesKaj> i still remember mandrake
[09:41] <jzilla> yknott: While installing, just remount /home in the same place? That wont upset anything?
[09:41] <yknott> jzilla: correct
[09:41] <jzilla> thanks
[09:42] <modjo> mmmm didnt work either
[09:42] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Same distro, same deal
[09:42] <jzilla> bbl!
[09:42] <modjo> :(
[09:42] <Billiard> sebastianhooker_: did u see that /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[09:42] <Minataku> Mandrake was the one that started with the pay support
[09:42] <modjo> i have some trobules it wont play a different region dvds even after the libdvdcss2 plugin
[09:42] <ankit> Bye everybody thanks for helping me....
[09:42] <Minataku> Then they changed their name
[09:42] <modjo> any ideas>/
[09:42] <modjo> ?
[09:42] <zipper> myky: sorry, #ubuntu-effects
[09:42] <modjo> it just crashes
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> modjo: in order to play a different regions DVD, you have to take a plane trip there.... didn't you know that>
[09:43] <BluesKaj> yeah, well i have no intentions of trying it anyway
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[09:43] <Minataku> modjo: Launch it in Konsole, read the errors when it crashes
[09:43] <Minataku> Either that or use a different player
[09:43] <modjo> can you tell me how to launch it from console?
[09:43] <Minataku> modjo: Open Konsole, type "kaffiene"
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> modjo: pop up a konsole and type "kaffeine"
[09:44] <yknott> modjo: alt+f2; click options/run in terminal window; command: kaffeine
[09:44] <modjo> i got this
[09:45] <Minataku> I like A/UX, type command, Pretzel+K, ogle commando window
[09:45] <Minataku> XD
[09:45] <modjo> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[09:45] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[09:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:45] <Dragnslcr> Ogle commando window?
[09:45] <Dragnslcr> I don't think I want to know
[09:45] <Minataku> http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/random/auximages/Picture_10.png
[09:45] <BluesKaj> he could check thr k-menu/multimedia
[09:45] <Minataku> It's part of A/UX
[09:45] <Minataku> modjo: That's bogus
[09:45] <Minataku> Ignore it
[09:46] <modjo> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[09:46] <Minataku> Get it to where it crashes
[09:46] <modjo> i meant
[09:46] <modjo> Failed to open device
[09:46] <Minataku> Yeah, it's bogus, ignore it
[09:46] <nosrednaekim> modjo: skip all that.. its normal
[09:46] <modjo>   Major opcode:  145
[09:46] <modjo> resource id?
[09:46] <nosrednaekim> yeah yeah.... pastebin it..
[09:46] <Minataku> modjo: Just try to use the program like you normally would
[09:46] <modjo> major code? minor code?
[09:46] <Minataku> Let it crash
[09:46] <Minataku> THEN tell us what it says
[09:46] <modjo> ok lemme do that
[09:46] <Minataku> Ignore the X error crap :3
[09:47] <modjo> QLayout "unnamed" added to QWidget "unnamed", which already has a layout
[09:47] <Minataku> Dragnslcr: On that screencap, feel free to chop off the filename for more screenshots
[09:47] <firecrotch> Hi, does anyone know of a program for printing barcodes that can include the press of the <enter> key?  KBarcode can't do this, apparently
[09:47] <Minataku> And poke around all you want, too
[09:47] <Minataku> That's my site, you're allowed
[09:47] <Minataku> XD
[09:47] <nosrednaekim> modjo: I get that too... I just gave up on kaffeine.... I use codeine now
[09:47] <Minataku> Yeah, try something different
[09:48] <Minataku> Kaffiene seems like a piece of crap
[09:48] <modjo> nosrednaekim:when do you get that?
[09:48] <nosrednaekim> modjo:get what?
[09:48] <modjo> when does it crashes for you
[09:48] <modjo> ?
[09:48] <modjo> lemme try codeine
[09:49] <modjo> does any one know a shortcut keys to open de start menu?
[09:49] <BluesKaj> there's a patch built into the new kaffeine .. it's broken on feisty after the upgrade from edgy , just totally remove it and reinstall ....
[09:49] <modjo> it came wit my feisty
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: already tried that... and besides, I didn't upgrade
[09:50] <BluesKaj> cuz ya gotta reinstall kubuntu-desktop as well
[09:50] <mauricio> hello, can anybody help me with my NVIDIA propietary drivers?
[09:50] <mauricio> i got a geforce 6200 LE
[09:50] <BluesKaj> uninstalling Kaffeine drags kubunru desktop with it
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> mauricio: sure.... install " restricted-manager"
[09:51] <mauricio> i did it, nosrednaekim
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> mauricio: and then run "sudo resctricted-manager"
[09:51] <mauricio> and it does'nt work well
[09:51] <BluesKaj> well for those interested , that's how i fixed Kaffeine :)
[09:51] <mauricio> i did that too nosrednaekim
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> mauricio: and you installed the nvidia drivers from there too?
[09:52] <mauricio> nosrednaekim: does'nt work
[09:52] <nosrednaekim> mauricio: ah.. ok
[09:52] <nosrednaekim> whats that command guys for setting up nvidia?
[09:52] <modjo> ummm everybody
[09:52] <zipper> mauricio: there is a great guide on the ubuntu wiki
[09:52] <modjo> codeine sucks too
[09:52] <modjo> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".
[09:52] <modjo> or maybe i suck at it
[09:52] <BluesKaj> anyway time to BBQ .... BBL
[09:53] <mauricio> zipper: nosrednaekim, i'm trying automatix now
[09:53] <modjo> afeter playing the dvd with codeine or kaffeine it crashes
[09:53] <zipper> mauricio: i cannot recommend automatix
[09:53] <modjo> the crash handler tellm e signal 11 SIGSEVG
[09:53] <zipper> mauricio: its great when it works... but if something goes wrong, its impossible to debug/troubleshoot
[09:53] <modjo> anyone can gumme any idea?
[09:54] <mauricio> zipper: ubuntu wiki works for kubuntu too?
[09:54] <zipper> modjo: i use VLC for all my video needs. I believe it can also handle dvd's.
[09:54] <zipper> mauricio: for most subjects, yes.
[09:54] <modjo> i dont think its my dvd player
[09:54] <modjo> i think its somethign ith the plugins
[09:54] <mauricio> zipper: then i'll try
[09:54] <mauricio> now
[09:54] <Noob> hello
[09:55] <modjo> hello noob
[09:55] <zipper> mauricio: since kubuntu and ubuntu is generally identical, apart from kubuntu using KDE and ubuntu using gnome/sawfish
[09:55] <zipper> are*
[09:55] <zipper> mauricio: if you have a nvidia card, its pretty easy.
[09:55] <Noob> i'm having problems dual booting xp and kubuntu and need some help
[09:55] <helene> Greets, everyone...
[09:55] <zipper> welcome
[09:55] <modjo> in which order you installed them?
[09:56] <Noob> xp
[09:56] <sebastianhooker_> Noob: uninstall windows
[09:56] <firecrotch> welcome, helene
[09:56] <Noob> kubuntu
[09:56] <mauricio> zipper: for now, i did try a lot of ways, everyone fails
[09:56] <Noob> same hdd  split partitions
[09:56] <modjo> then i am a noob to because that should do the trick
[09:56] <helene> Can someone tell me the name of the package for the default powermanagement systray applet? I'm wanting to get rid of it since I'm using kpowersave instead.
[09:56] <firecrotch> Noob: Are you getting a Grub Error 21?
[09:57] <sebastianhooker_> Noob: Just uninstall windows
[09:57] <Noob> no the systems both install fine then when i restert kubuntu i can enter the boot loader but no xp option
[09:57] <zipper> mauricio: For me... i just installed the nvidia-glx and restricted-modules packages, changed "nv" to "nvidia" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf - and it worked. I would highly recommend you take a look at the wiki first though
[09:57] <Noob> i need windows for no
[09:57] <antiroach> is there no longer an add/remove applications thing in kde 3.5.6 (feisty) ?
[09:57] <firecrotch> sebastianhooker_: Obviously he is dual-booting for a reasom
[09:57] <Noob> for now
[09:58] <mauricio> zipper: ok, i will, then i tell u
[09:58] <mauricio> zipper: thnks!
[09:58] <Noob> mainly for my ipod and i'm still getting used to linux
[09:58] <zipper> mauricio: you're welcome
[09:58] <gentoofan23> helene: You mean guidance?
[09:58] <llutz> Noob: paste the output of "sudo fdisk -l" and the file /boot/grub/menu.lst to pastebin
[09:58] <modjo> does some one know whats a plf source?
[09:59] <zipper> mauricio: dont feel bad if i dont respond though, should be studying right now.
[09:59] <llutz> !paste|noob
[09:59] <ubotu> noob: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:59] <cyco> hello
[09:59] <llutz> modjo: penguin-liberation.front, medibuntu now
[09:59] <modjo> tns llutz
[09:59] <mauricio> zipper: the thing is, i lost all my day trying this, this is terrible, this is not good, for no one
[09:59] <Noob> Usage: fdisk [-l]  [-b SSZ]  [-u]  device
[09:59] <Noob> E.g.: fdisk /dev/hda  (for the first IDE disk)
[09:59] <Noob>   or: fdisk /dev/sdc  (for the third SCSI disk)
[09:59] <Noob>   or: fdisk /dev/eda  (for the first PS/2 ESDI drive)
[09:59] <Noob>   or: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0  or: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0  (for RAID devices)
[09:59] <helene> gentoofan23: Umm... Not sure, sorry.
[09:59] <llutz> Noob: to pastebin!
[10:00] <gentoofan23> helene: It is the default one, so yes that is the one you probably mean
[10:00] <llutz> !paste|Noob
[10:00] <ubotu> Noob: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:00] <helene> gentoofan23: Is it safe to remove that?
[10:00] <Noob> sorry i didn't read the pastebin thing before i posted
[10:00] <gentoofan23> Yes.
[10:00] <zipper> mauricio: funny that.... i recently spend all day getting an ATI card working in windows, while i installed the nvidia drivers in linux in about 5 minutes :)
[10:00] <helene> Ohh... Nevermind. I just saw it contains several other important things, so I guess not.
[10:01] <zipper> mauricio: but then again, i would bet i've done it about 100 times by now, so...
[10:01] <cyco> I got a gtk/gdk error with firefox, do you have that too ?
[10:01] <mauricio> ok zipper, thnks, i will tell u
[10:02] <helene> zipper: Were you able to get those divx deb's?
[10:02] <zipper> mauricio: good luck. You havent tried anything in linux before you've been forced to do a complete re-install cus' you f*cked something up too badly :)
[10:03] <zipper> helene: mike? And yeah... i was. Still not able to play the video though =/
[10:03] <zipper> helene: but to be honest, i havent had time to play around with it too much
[10:03] <helene> zipper: Yeah, still setting up my grandmother's comp. Heh
[10:03] <helene> zipper: That's weird. You shouldn't really have to play around with it - It was automatic on my end.
[10:03] <zipper> helene: but didnt you use automatix for it?
[10:04] <helene> Ohh yeah
[10:04] <helene> Could be you're missing one of the packages
[10:04] <helene> But then, maybe not
[10:04] <zipper> helene: have you set mplayer as default application or something?
[10:05] <coreymon77> guys
[10:05] <coreymon77> how do you add a label toa partition
[10:05] <llutz> coreymon77: ext2/3: e2label
[10:06] <helene> zipper: System-wide? No, but installing mozilla-mplayer should automatically make it the default for Firefox
[10:06] <coreymon77> fat32
[10:06] <coreymon77> llutz: fat32 partition
[10:06] <zipper> helene: hmm... since i already have that package, i should be set to go
[10:06] <zipper> helene: sigh, feel like trying my luck with automatix
[10:06] <llutz> coreymon77: ask in a dos/win-channel :) sry no idea
[10:07] <gon> !gutenprint
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gutenprint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <modjo> my kaffeine says: the source cant be read, maybe you dont have enough rghts for this
[10:07] <modjo> !kaffeine
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffeine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <helene> Does anyone know how to make it so Power Manager doesn't start automatically? I'm trying to make KPowersave the default power management program, or at least just have it start when I log in instead of Power Manager.
[10:08] <modjo> i thought linux could do anything windows did
[10:08] <helene> modjo: Who told you that?
[10:08] <Panda200x> An idiot
[10:09] <modjo> a linux user
[10:09] <helene> Yup
[10:09] <modjo> why is he an idiot?
[10:09] <Panda200x> Because it can't
[10:09] <helene> Because he's wrong. ;-)
[10:09] <modjo> like what?
[10:09] <Panda200x> Unless he used Wine and thought
[10:09] <zipper> modjo: like... playing most games.
[10:09] <modjo> besides games
[10:09] <zipper> modjo: and do BSOD's for no reason
[10:09] <helene> lol
[10:09] <Panda200x> I use linux and I know linux can't do everything windows can do
[10:10] <Panda200x> I never got a BSOD :D
[10:10] <Panda200x> And I'm not lying :P
[10:10] <StErGi0s> well kmix is on at all channels but still no sound :(
[10:10] <helene> But then, Windows can't do everything Linux can either, so it goes both ways.
[10:10] <zipper> Panda200x: couldnt it just be your ignorance? :)
[10:10] <Panda200x> Nope
[10:10] <helene> Just depends on what you value more.
[10:10] <Panda200x> I just never upgrade
[10:10] <Panda200x> my hardware etc
[10:10] <Panda200x> unless you count vista
[10:10] <helene> So no one here knows how to change the default power manager?
[10:10] <modjo> i just wanted to play different region dvd....
[10:11] <modjo> :(
[10:11] <Panda200x> I've had a RSOD <3
[10:11] <zipper> red screen... ?
[10:11] <Panda200x> It's a boot error
[10:11] <zipper> i usually get the always-cool kernel panicks
[10:11] <modjo> all i do is whine at my irc client with a dvd
[10:11] <zipper> when removing ram blocks while the pc is running and stuff like that
[10:12] <Panda200x> :P
[10:12] <Panda200x> I can't do anything now :/
[10:12] <cyco>  I got a gtk/gdk error with firefox under feisty, do you have that too ?
[10:12] <Panda200x> I hate upgrading
[10:12] <modjo> can any tell me how can i open the all aplications menu with my keyboard?
[10:12] <helene> modjo: Alt+F1
[10:13] <modjo> yesss
[10:13] <modjo> thats what i was looking for, tnx helene!
[10:13] <helene> modjo: No problem
[10:13] <Kartibok> modjo: or my favorite - Alt + Space
[10:14] <modjo> katapult rocks but i was looking for f1 option
[10:14] <Kartibok> and type in what you want
[10:14] <Kartibok> ;)
[10:14] <Panda200x> I never use katapult
[10:14] <helene> If Katapult didn't look like shit when Beryl's running, I would be all over it
[10:14] <modjo> my katapult looks good under beryl
[10:14] <Panda200x> If only I could run Beryl
[10:14] <Panda200x> xD
[10:14] <modjo> but my beryl looks glitchy
[10:15] <helene> What kind of cards do you two have?
[10:15] <helene> video cards*
[10:15] <Panda200x> I have a crappy intel-based one
[10:15] <modjo> the "glassy windows effect" doesnt look  good
[10:15] <modjo> intel based on my satellite
[10:15] <helene> Panda200x: i810 ?
[10:15] <Panda200x> i850 i think, I acutqally have no clue
[10:15] <Panda200x> :P
[10:15] <Panda200x> Any way I can find out in Konsole?
[10:16] <modjo> panda i think you CAN run beryl
[10:16] <Panda200x> :O
[10:16] <Panda200x> I thought I couldn't
[10:16] <Panda200x> xD
[10:16] <Kartibok> helene: Just tried it with beryl, it looks fine.....so I must admint I always loose my superkarumba stuff
[10:16] <modjo> i am, with may laptop video card
[10:16] <jhutchins> Panda200x: lspci
[10:16] <helene> Panda200x: Oh ok. Well, I *believe* that if it's Intel, if it's gonna work at all, it'll pretty much be OotB.
[10:16] <Panda200x> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[10:16] <modjo> helene: OotB?
[10:16] <Panda200x> Whatever that is
[10:16] <Panda200x> xD
[10:17] <helene> out of the box
[10:17] <timd> how can i mount my second HDD?
[10:17] <helene> Panda200x: It's an 865
[10:17] <modjo> just install beryl and try it out
[10:17] <timd> it's a sata and kubu is on an IDE if it matters
[10:17] <Panda200x> So it can or can't?
[10:17] <Panda200x> :P
[10:17] <modjo> try it, lets figure it out
[10:18] <jzilla> man - that was sooo easy, im impressed
[10:18] <Panda200x> I wish I could but Adept (Upgrading) is too busy * Stopping Bluetooth serivces...
[10:18] <Panda200x> xD
[10:18] <helene> Kartibok: Weird. Whenever I tried it, the background, which is supposed to be transparent, is just all jumbled lines
[10:18] <helene> Panda200x: Not sure. I know for sure it doesn't work with i810's... They have a card-compatibility list somewhere on the wiki, I think.
[10:19] <Panda200x> I can't access anything atm
[10:19] <Panda200x> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[10:19] <Panda200x>  klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
[10:19] <Panda200x> Updating xD
[10:19] <nullkuhl> i have beryl runnin on xgl in feisty with ati card,,, its workin so fine with the core downgrade to version 2.0 ,,, but i have no direct rendering in this session Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display "localhost:1.0". direct rendering: No ..... PLZ HELPPPPPPPPPPP
[10:19] <helene> Ohh
[10:19] <adaptr> yes... Panda200x restart your session
[10:19] <adaptr> it's b0rked
[10:19] <Panda200x> it's still updating
[10:19] <modjo> whats cgl?
[10:20] <helene> nullkuhl: Xgl doesn't use direct rendering
[10:20] <Kartibok> helene: Some systems must just be different. I don't know enough about it yet......but do miss my karumba, so most of the time I just have th enormal manager unless I show it off to the wife, who looks at me like I'm a geek...lol
[10:20] <modjo> whats xgl?
[10:20] <Panda200x>  * Stopping Bluetooth services...  < 3 minutes now
[10:21] <coreymon77> guys
[10:21] <Lucious> How can I make my kde taskbar look more like an OS X one ?
[10:21] <coreymon77> how do i get a root terminal command to run on startup
[10:21] <Panda200x> Skin it?
[10:21] <Panda200x> :P
[10:21] <Panda200x> sudo bash > password > save as default?
[10:21] <helene> modjo: X11 is the default application that allows you to use a GUI (graphical user interface - instead of having to just type commands for everything). Since ATI doesn't support Linux very well at all, some people have to run Xgl instead of X11 to get Beryl to work
[10:22] <Panda200x> nope that's not it
[10:22] <Panda200x> xD
[10:22] <helene> Kartibok: You lose your SuperKaramba widgets everytime you start Beryl, as in, they just disappear?
[10:22] <coreymon77> Panda200x: autmounting isnt working, so i just want it to run the mount command at startup
[10:23] <modjo> helene: woooooooow, so if i am alredy running beryl with a crappy intel card i DONT need xgl at al, right?
[10:23] <coreymon77> the command being sudo mount /media/Storage
[10:23] <helene> modjo: Correct
[10:23] <modjo> *at all, right?
[10:23] <coreymon77> and then my password
[10:23] <Kartibok> The only one I get up all the time is the weather. The others say that they are still there but I can't see them
[10:23] <Panda200x> yeah
[10:23] <helene> Xgl is just for ATI, from my understanding
[10:23] <modjo> :D
[10:23] <Panda200x> or if you want the Konsole to be root the whole time sudo bash <3
[10:23] <Panda200x> *of the session
[10:24] <timd> how do i mount a second hard drive?
[10:24] <llutz> coreymon77: make an entry in your /etc/fstab
[10:24] <modjo> how is your hdd connected?
[10:24] <fdoving> coreymon77: is it a removable device?
[10:24] <coreymon77> llutz: tried that
[10:24] <helene> Kartibok: You don't have the widget layer plugin enabled, right? (under the Desktop section in Beryl Settings Manager) (It's not in the official repository's version of Beryl.)
[10:24] <draik> sfire: Hello
[10:24] <coreymon77> fdoving: its a hard drive
[10:25] <fdoving> coreymon77: built-in, not removable?
[10:25] <llutz> coreymon77: what partition, what mountpoint, what filesystem?
[10:25] <modjo> internal hdd?
[10:25] <timd> modjo: yes
[10:25] <draik> Hello everyone
[10:25] <modjo> great :D. any partitions so far?
[10:25] <timd> modjo: kubu is on IDE and want to mount my windows which is sata
[10:25] <coreymon77> fdoving: this is a pc, all hds are removable
[10:25] <draik> I just bought a Netgear 10/100Mbits Network Card for my laptop
[10:25] <helene> Hah, yessss....
[10:25] <draik> For some strange reason, it's not letting me go online
[10:26] <fdoving> coreymon77: ok, but not usb connected, right? - you can use /etc/fstab for that.
[10:26] <coreymon77> fdoving: partition sda5, mountpoint /media/Storage fs=fat32
[10:26] <helene> Found the package for the default power manager. :D
[10:26] <Panda200x> Draik do you have the drivers for it?
[10:26] <jannick> Hello
[10:26] <coreymon77> fdoving: ive tried
[10:26] <modjo> but does it has a partition right now?
[10:26] <coreymon77> fdoving: it doesnt work
[10:26] <StErGi0s> anyone can help with soundcard problem?i got no sound but it used to work fine before
[10:26] <draik> Panda200x: How do I get the drivers for it? I'm running Kubuntu Edgy Eft
[10:26] <fdoving> coreymon77: ok, did you get an error message?
[10:26] <timd> yes
[10:26] <Panda200x> Konsole>lspci
[10:26] <llutz> coreymon77: /dev/sda5 /media/Storage vfat umask=000 0 0
[10:26] <draik> I have it setup as DHCP, but it's not getting an IP address
[10:26] <nullkuhl> i have beryl runnin on xgl in feisty with ati card,,, its workin so fine with the core downgrade to version 2.0 ,,, but i have no direct rendering in this session Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display "localhost:1.0". direct rendering: No ..... PLZ HELPPPPPPPPPPP
[10:27] <modjo> im guessing you need to isntall win fist then kubu
[10:27] <Panda200x> copy over the device name
[10:27] <timd> i have
[10:27] <helene> nullkuhl: It's running correctly, right? You just get that error when you start it?
[10:27] <coreymon77> fdoving: no, i can mount it, i just cant get it to autmount at boot
[10:27] <Kartibok> helene: I can't seem to find that tick box
[10:27] <StErGi0s> Panda200x:  you are talking to me?
[10:27] <fdoving> coreymon77: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:27] <Panda200x> no
[10:27] <timd> i had XP running on here then installed an IDE HDD and installed kubu
[10:27] <StErGi0s> oh sorry
[10:27] <Panda200x> :P
[10:27] <amin81> rysiek|pl: Hey! Are you there?
[10:27] <helene> Kartibok: If you just installed Beryl from the official repository, you don't have it. It's only in GIT
[10:27] <modjo> and you cant see the win hdd in kubu or the other way around?
[10:28] <Kartibok> helene: Ah...its an official one
[10:28] <draik> Panda200x: Some strange reason it says "Linksys 21x4x DEC-Tulip Compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 11)
[10:28] <timd> can't see my win hdd in kubu
[10:28] <Kartibok> I believe!
[10:28] <draik> Panda200x: That's what I had before
[10:28] <modjo> how long have you been using kubu?
[10:28] <timd> 2 days
[10:28] <jzilla> can somebody remind me where the "restricted drivers" window thing is ( for installing video drivers)
[10:28] <timd> :)
[10:28] <modjo> ohhh
[10:29] <helene> Kartibok: You *might* try unchecking "Place" (I think that's what it's called) under Window Management.
[10:29] <modjo> ok open konqueror
[10:29] <draik> Panda200x: Also, Linksys was USB, eth0    Netgear is PCMCIA, eth1
[10:29] <llutz> coreymon77: what was your (not working) entry?
[10:29] <timd> ok
[10:29] <modjo> and then to storage media
[10:29] <helene> Kartibok: Sometimes that plugin acts up and throws some windows off the screen when Beryl starts.
[10:29] <timd> ok
[10:29] <modjo> your hdd inst THERE?
[10:29] <timd> nope
[10:29] <draik> !mp3 > jzilla
[10:30] <draik> !mp3 | jzilla
[10:30] <ubotu> jzilla: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:30] <modjo> then i dont know :(
[10:30] <modjo> it SHOULD be there
[10:30] <timd> lol
[10:30] <timd> should...yes
[10:30] <helene> jzilla: You want to install the restricted driver for your video card?
[10:30] <modjo> you can boot both of them?
[10:30] <jzilla> helene: yes.
[10:30] <coreymon77> llutz: already changed it according to that site
[10:30] <jzilla> and draik, thanks, ill need that step in a min ;o
[10:31] <timd> my win one doesn't show up in the kernel loader....just 2 copies of Kubu
[10:31] <Kartibok> helene: That did not work.....however I am happy to switch between as and when....but thanks for the assistance
[10:31] <draik> Whoopsie, I read it as the audio Restricted Formats, not video driver
[10:31] <helene> jzilla: Do "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager" from Konsole and then run "restricted-manager"
[10:31] <jzilla> yep thats it ;o
[10:31] <jzilla> thanks
[10:31] <modjo> thats pretty weird, i think there a wiki for migrting to kubuntu regardless of what previous OS you had
[10:31] <helene> Kartibok: No problem. I'm just puzzling over that. Never had a problem with SuperKaramba under Beryl
[10:32] <helene> jzilla: No problem
[10:32] <Kartibok> jzilla: Try this one as well - http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html
[10:32] <helene> Well, I have to go finish making this laptop grandmother-accessible. Peace out, everyone.
[10:32] <rysiek|pl> amin81: yes, I am, all the time. I am not reading this channel all the time, though, so if you want to get to me, yoou must ping me
[10:32] <modjo> g luck helene
[10:32] <helene> lol Thanks
[10:32] <helene> later
[10:32] <Kartibok> helene: I just think that its great that this OS is available with all these add ons for free, and with good support!
[10:33] <amin81> rysiek|pl: oh, ok!
[10:33] <nullkuhl>  i have beryl runnin on xgl in feisty with ati card,,, its workin so fine with the core downgrade to version 2.0 ,,, but i have no direct rendering in this session Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display "localhost:1.0". direct rendering: No
[10:33] <amin81> rysiek|pl: So how are you?
[10:33] <helene> Kartibok: Indeed. :-)
[10:33] <Kartibok> helene: Byeeee
[10:33] <draik> How do I update my lspci? It is still reading my old Linksys USB ethernet adapter, not my new Netgear PCMCIA ethernet Card
[10:33] <helene> nullkuhl: ATI DOESN'T USE DIRECT RENDERING. ;-)
[10:33] <modjo> well, peace im outta here
[10:33] <nullkuhl> and how come on the other gnome seesion with out xgl it works :@
[10:34] <nullkuhl> helene: ?
[10:34] <llutz> draik: if it isn't shown in lspci, it isn't recognized at all
[10:34] <Panda200x|Away> helene is gone
[10:34] <draik> llutz: How do I get it to be recognized?
[10:34] <Panda200x> Draik
[10:34] <Blissex> draik: you cannot ''update'' the output of 'lspci'.
[10:34] <draik> Panda200x: What do I do to get the drivers for what I need?
[10:34] <llutz> draik: please paste output of lspci to pastebin
[10:34] <Panda200x> It might be recognized, my D-Link card is recognized as a TExas Instruments
[10:34] <coreymon77> draik: whats the card
[10:35] <llutz> !paste|draik
[10:35] <ubotu> draik: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:35] <amin81> rysiek|pl: hehe
[10:35] <Kartibok> how do I use my registered name again?
[10:35] <Panda200x> ./msg NickServ IDENTIFY ?
[10:35] <Panda200x> :
[10:35] <Kartibok> thanks
[10:35] <draik> coreymon77: Netgear CardBus Notebook Adapter 10/100Mbits    Model: FA511
[10:35] <rysiek|pl> amin81: now I got ya :)
[10:36] <draik> llutz: How do I paste in pastebin when it doesn't go online?
[10:36] <amin81> rysiek|pl: :) SO how have you been?
[10:36] <rysiek|pl> amin81: I'm fine, thanks; just hacking around with some thing now; how about you? :)
[10:36] <llutz> draik: no chance to copy output to another pc to paste it?
[10:36] <Panda200x> Use a sneakernet method? xD
[10:36] <draik> llutz: Ok....
[10:36] <amin81> rysiek|pl: not bad, alot of work though
[10:36] <timd> aaahhhaaa
[10:36] <coreymon77> draik: im curious, if your card isnt being recognized, how are you talking to us'
[10:36] <Panda200x> Copy and Save it using Kate and then stick it on a USB Drive?
[10:36] <timd> i got it
[10:37] <Panda200x> He obviously has another computer
[10:37] <jzilla> kubuntu is amazing.
[10:37] <draik> coreymon77: That is my laptop, this is my desktop
[10:37] <amin81> rysiek|pl: i am back on my windows computer again...which adds another stressmoment
[10:37] <jzilla> makes me love my computer again
[10:37] <rysiek|pl> amin81: yeah, I got thatnow, too. the exams, and so on
[10:37] <rysiek|pl> amin81: I ment the time and work, not windoze
[10:37] <rysiek|pl> :)
[10:37] <amin81> rysiek|pl: got it. :) What are you studying?
[10:37] <rysiek|pl> amin81: a month or two ago I have finally totally removed windows from my box.
[10:37] <coreymon77> draik: could you be a little more specific about your network card
[10:37] <coreymon77> oh
[10:38] <coreymon77> nvm
[10:38] <rysiek|pl> amin81: well... Philosophy actually :)
[10:38] <coreymon77> i didnt see the model part
[10:38] <Panda200x> Hey does anyone here know if the replacing bluez-utils takes ages on kubuntu?
[10:38] <Panda200x> for upgrading
[10:38] <amin81> rysiek|pl: Cool!
[10:39] <rysiek|pl> amin81: that's a support channel, I think we should take that to some other, like #amin_and_rysiek, shall we? :)
[10:39] <amin81> rysiek|pl: ok, cool hehe
[10:39] <markku> How do i enable smp/dual core on kubuntu feisty. KInfoCenter shows cpu cores: 1. I have Athlon 64 X2. Having been seaching forums like 2 weeks for solution.
[10:39] <coreymon77> draik: oaky, do you knwo the chipset?
[10:40] <draik> coreymon77: Nope
[10:40] <draik> llutz, Panda200x coreymon77: http://pastebin.ca/556976
[10:41] <cyco> thanks for your answers, maybe you need some lessons about being polite though
[10:42] <llutz> draik: your cardbus-bridge doesn't know that network-controller, try to boot with "pci=assign_busses"
[10:42] <draik> llutz: How do I do that?
[10:42] <llutz> draik: edit the grub-menuentry when booting for testing. just add that option
[10:44] <nullkuhl> guys wats strg and srtg keys ?
[10:44] <draik> llutz: Where do I add that option? At the top? Under the boot option I usually choose?
[10:44] <Karti> Could someone give the command to register?
[10:44] <llutz> draik: in the "kernel" line
[10:45] <nullkuhl>  guys wats strg and srtg keys ?
[10:47] <Sanne> nullkuhl: sounds like german for ctrl keys
[10:48] <letsgo> hay newbie to linux  - running kubuntu - does open office word save as msoft word format as well
[10:49] <draik> letsgo: Yes
[10:49] <draik> letsgo: You have to select that option as you save the document
[10:49] <letsgo> very kool thx draik
[10:49] <draik> letsgo: NP
[10:49] <draik> letsgo: Welcome to Kubuntu
[10:49] <letsgo> wow this linux is great no more windows robot
[10:50] <letsgo> thx for the welocome - i'm sure i'll be back with more questions - have good day
[10:50] <draik> letsgo: NP, someone is always here to help
[10:51] <jzilla> simple question, how do i search for packages in apt-get?
[10:51] <letsgo> i told you - i'm really warming up to this linux thing it's great - cya
[10:51] <draik> jzilla: sudo apt-cache search <package name>
[10:51] <jzilla> <3
[10:52] <zipper> jzilla: you can also play around with grep..... like 'apt-cache search avi | grep player'
[10:52] <jzilla> thats sexy too
[10:53] <jzilla> i knew about that command
[10:53] <jzilla> never really used it
[10:53] <jzilla> im only about 2 months in ;o
[10:53] <jzilla> just moved from suse
[10:53] <zipper> grep is in suse as well :)
[10:53] <jzilla> yeah
[10:53] <zipper> ah
[10:53] <zipper> misunderstood you
[10:53] <zipper> sorry
[10:53] <draik> Panda200x: coreymon77: Still not working with llutz's idea to add "pci=assign_buses"
[10:54] <zipper> jzilla: i think you'll like (k)ubuntu... thanks to apt, no more dependency problems!
[10:54] <ubuntu_> salut
[10:54] <schizm> anyone got the VNC module with XOrg working WITHOUT corrupt graphics?  The server login screen works fine, but once I log in, it
[10:54] <schizm> it's all corrupt
[10:54] <draik> Panda200x: coreymon77: It's still my old Linksys in lspci
[10:55] <coreymon77> id ont know
[10:55] <schizm> tightvnc from command line works fine, but I'm not interested in a :1 connection, I want a :0 connection
[10:55] <draik> :(
[10:55] <zipper> while we're talking about VNC... anyone know of a good way to let windows users login?
[10:56] <Panda200x> Let them get VNC On Windows?
[10:56] <Panda200x> :p
[10:56] <schizm> zipper: that's what im working on
[10:56] <zipper> tightVNC? openVNC?
[10:56] <zipper> which is better?
[10:56] <Panda200x> I use tightVNC
[10:56] <schizm> simply because I don't have another box up right now, im connecting an XP box to my kubuntu box
[10:57] <Panda200x> i haven't tired openVNC
[10:57] <zipper> schizm: found any good guide for doing it?
[10:57] <schizm> tightvnc works fine, but tightvnc is pretty restrictive, it won't allow :0 connections
[10:57] <schizm> zipper: various threads on forums, use google
[10:57] <Dragnslcr> I use x11vnc for :0 connections
[10:57] <schizm> one guy asked about my problem (corrupt graphics using the realvnc XOrg module) last june but noone answered him
[10:57] <Dragnslcr> Slightly annoying to get setup, but it seems to work fine for me
[10:57] <schizm> Dragnslcr: i was considering that, looked like a PITA though
[10:57] <zipper> well, i dont really need :0 connections
[10:58] <zipper> so its no biggie
[10:58] <antiroach> just use the Xorg vnc module
[10:58] <schizm> anti: I am :)
[10:58] <schizm> that's the problem
[10:58] <antiroach> oh lol
[10:58] <schizm> the login screen is fine...but once i log in....corrupt graphics
[10:58] <mikedomo> hi everybody
[10:58] <antiroach> weird
[10:58] <Dragnslcr> schizm- yeah, you have to go through the options to make sure you get everything right
[10:58] <zipper> mikedomo: hi doctor nick!
[10:59] <schizm> im using the "nv" driver ...i suspect that's causing the problem
[10:59] <zipper> mikedomo: sorry, been watching too much simpsons lately =P
[10:59] <Panda200x> Does anyone know how long 'Replacing bluez-utils with new version...' takes when upgrading to edgy?
[10:59] <schizm> cause honestly i don't know what else it could be really
[10:59] <zipper> schizm: tried using 'nvidia' instead?
[10:59] <schizm> and i can't seem to get tightvncserver firing properly from xinetd.....but if i fire it off from command line im fine
[11:00] <schizm> zipper: no, i thought nvidia didnt work, or at least last i tried
[11:00] <schizm> ill give it a try
[11:00] <mikedomo> the revolution is now
[11:00] <zipper> schizm: oh, i have no idea if it works or not
[11:00] <zipper> schizm: just guessing here
[11:00] <schizm> aye
[11:00] <zipper> mikedomo: i call dips on dictator!
[11:01] <schizm> i guess on login i can ssh in, kick off a tightvnc server by hand. that's not the end of the world...but i just want to know why this VNC module doesn't work
[11:01] <schizm> it's bugging me
[11:01] <draik> Panda200x: coreymon77: It uses the ADMtek AN985 chipset
[11:02] <BlueEagle> First off I'm failing horribly getting my MX5000 bluetooth keyboard working. Secondly many packages are broken on a fresh install of kubuntu 7.04 64-bit according to the updater. For the keyboard I'm attempting to follow a tutorial using bluez-utils but to no avail as bluez-utils isn't installed and is not installable. Any pointers in the right direction would be appreciated.
[11:02] <mikedomo> ubuntu is the linux distro can change the informatic world
[11:02] <beata_> Where is it defined that pressing XF86AudioMedia launches amarok? This is not anywhere in my global shortcuts settings.
[11:02] <schizm> i gotta say RDP sure has come a LONG LONG way since i last played with it
[11:02] <t-roi> I agree with mikedomo^^
[11:03] <zipper> mikedomo: i've heard that before....
[11:03] <t-roi> btw. hi all
[11:03] <mikedomo> really is
[11:03] <SlimeyPete> Ubuntu will rule during the year of the Linux desktop.
[11:03] <draik> Is anyone here using a Netgear PCMCIA Network Card?
[11:03] <SlimeyPete> Which is confidently expected a year now. Or the year after that.
[11:03] <zipper> SlimeyPete: which is in 2160?
[11:03] <SlimeyPete> Tnyears, tops. Well, maybe fifteen.
[11:03] <BlueEagle> beata_: system settings -> keyboard and mouse -> Keyboard shortcuts -> Command shortcuts -> Amarok
[11:04] <SlimeyPete> oh fgs what's happened to my keyboard lately
[11:04] <mikedomo> linux for every one and very easy to use
[11:05] <beata_> BlueEagle: That setting is set to 'none'.
[11:05] <zipper> Anyone managed to get all the buttons on a logitech MX518 to work properly? Or anyone know of a guide for it? Tried searching without any luck.... only managed to get thumb buttons working. I want to be able to assign the DPI changing buttons to something else, say keyboard strokes for example.
[11:05] <CPrgmSwR2> Very strange
[11:05] <CPrgmSwR2> my entire kde theme changed
[11:05] <BlueEagle> beata_: Weird. Then I do not know where it's defined. :/
[11:05] <BlueEagle> beata_: That's where it's supposed to be defined afaik. :)
[11:06] <zipper> mikedomo: i for one, would sure like to see that. So far though, it just isnt here yet. Linux still isnt for everyone.
[11:06] <beata_> That was the first place I looked. Then I looked in Amarok's global shortcut settings.. then I grep't .kde/share for it.
[11:07] <mikedomo> is for everyone the graphical interface more mature and easy use of aplication
[11:08] <mikedomo> and many people i convenced to use this distro
[11:10] <mikedomo> free software is the right future of informatic
[11:12] <t-roi> mikedomo: I thing it will also be comertional software for specialy use
[11:13] <rodrigo> guys how do I change my nickname?
[11:13] <mikedomo> yeah we leave together privative and free software
[11:13] <t-roi> rodrigo:  /nick new_nickname
[11:13] <rodrigo> thanks t-roi
[11:14] <mikedomo> not only with privative software
[11:14] <new_rodro> lol
[11:14] <new_rodro> new wasn't a command
[11:14] <new_rodro> ok guys I need some help here
[11:14] <new_rodro> wich are the commun slang here
[11:15] <new_rodro> lol= means laughing out loud?
[11:15] <new_rodro> isn't it?
[11:15] <new_rodro> I mean I want to join to your community
[11:15] <new_rodro> so I need to get the proper language
[11:16] <kjdis> Anyone know much about nvtv that does tv-out with the nv driver?  I can get it to work, as in show on the TV, but I don't understand how to make it permanent.  Is nvtv itself a driver, or is just an app?  If it's an app, is there a way to make it persist?  I'd like to use it instead of the binary nvidia driver if possible
[11:16] <new_rodro> mmm I see
[11:16] <helene> !modem
[11:16] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[11:16] <mikedomo> the las new i watch is aout the posible use of toshiba laptop with linux ubuntu in the same form like dell
[11:17] <new_rodro> well in view of the succes obtained I rather go to the gimp channel
[11:17] <new_rodro> see ya
[11:17] <markku> how do i prevent loading some kernel modules during startup?
[11:19] <beata_> Huh.
[11:22] <Sanne> markku: I think you need to blacklist them
[11:22] <Sanne> !blacklist | markku
[11:22] <markku> how do i do that?
[11:22] <ubotu> markku: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[11:22] <markku> ok thanks
[11:22] <Sanne> :)
[11:22] <Tm_T> !fi | markku
[11:22] <ubotu> markku: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[11:32] <baghyay> salam
[11:32] <xerosis> anyone running kubuntu on a macbook?
[11:33] <main2> xerosis, why would you like to know that? :P
[11:33] <baghyay> can i find an   sources.list complite for kubuntu fiesty
[11:33] <main2> hello
[11:33] <xerosis> main2: going to buy a macbook and want to see if there;s any issues
[11:33] <main2> baghyay, if you can find a complete sources.list for feitsty?
[11:33] <draik> Does anyone know how to setup a Netword Card?
[11:34] <main2> xerosis, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:34] <xerosis> main2: um?
[11:34] <main2> xerosis, in english then.. um?
[11:34] <main2> sorry
[11:35] <main2> i ment baghyay
[11:35] <main2> the link was ment for him
[11:35] <main2> xerosis, this one for you :P http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[11:35] <AFaith> Admiral_Chicago: are you online ?
[11:35] <baghyay> yes that's what i want
[11:36] <zipper> xerosis: buying one for that sole purpose? Now thats what i call dedication!
[11:36] <main2> baghyay, good =)
[11:36] <xerosis> zipper: yep :p
[11:36] <main2> baghyay, how old are you?
[11:36] <baghyay> why  you asking
[11:36] <main2> just wondering
[11:36] <baghyay> i have 19
[11:36] <main2> but no english classes?
[11:37] <zipper> main2: you know, there are still a lot of places where they dont speak english... at all. I mean, its far from being the mostly used language in the world anyway.
[11:38] <main2> zipper, well -> i had english classes here in the netherlands since the age of what ? 9
[11:38] <main2> maybe 10
[11:38] <baghyay> yeah   that's good
[11:38] <Sloik> Anyone know how to make Kubuntu auto logout after a certain amount of idle time>?
[11:38] <zipper> main2: lucky you (and me). But not all people are that fortunate.
[11:38] <main2> i think that in most countries they teach english next to the national language
[11:38] <zipper> main2: you may think that, but that doesnt make it true.
[11:39] <baghyay> in morocco english  is the secend   frgin language
[11:39] <ubuntu_> hi
[11:39] <main2> i dont know about these statistics, but it would be stupid not to do so
[11:39] <Sloik> Anyone, anyone?
[11:39] <main2> no
[11:40] <zipper> main2: it would make more sense to teach people spanish or chinese, since more people speak those. But yeah, knowing english it pretty vital when it comes to working with IT.
[11:40] <main2> zipper, and doing business in general
[11:40] <main2> between countries
[11:41] <zipper> ofcourse
[11:41] <zipper> but lets face it, its only a fraction of the population that actually does that
[11:41] <main2> zipper, my english is so fluent, english or american people dont even notice that im not from their country
[11:41] <cr4sh> qtparted crashes, when I try to install kubuntu, console states: "No Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.", dies anyone know a solution?
[11:41] <cr4sh> *does
[11:42] <zipper> main2: and we're all very proud of you.
[11:42] <main2> zipper, sorry had to itch a bit ;D
[11:42] <main2> but what i wanned to say is that it gives a big advantage
[11:42] <main2> i dont know why you pretend like you feel 'attacked'
[11:42] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[11:42] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:42] <main2> =)
[11:42] <main2> not being able to communicate properly nation-wide is a bid disadvantage
[11:43] <main2> i mean international
[11:43] <zipper> main2: why do you think i would bother learning english if it didnt had its advantages? I feel "attacked" because you sound pretty arrogant.
[11:43] <draik> How do you install *.c and *.h files?
[11:43] <Tm_T> main2: as I tried to point out, that's offtopic, soo...
[11:43] <zipper> have
[11:44] <Tm_T> draik: what you mean?
[11:44] <zipper> draik: you probably need to compile them first.
[11:44] <zipper> draik: .c and .h files are probably the source-code
[11:44] <main2> zipper, why arrogant.. no reason to say that -> you dont get the point i guess.
[11:44] <Tm_T> main2: krhm
[11:45] <zipper> main2: cus' you feel the need to explain to us how good you are at english, and why everyone should be like you.
[11:45] <Tm_T> zipper: same to you, cut that chatter when here's someone needing support
[11:45] <main2> zipper, you can make up things, but that wont earn you anything..
[11:45] <Tm_T> draik: what exactly you're trying to get?
[11:45] <draik> zipper: I'm trying to get my new Netgear FA511 Network Card working, but lspci isn't reading the card. The lights are on, but nobody is home.
[11:45] <main2> draik, i think your cardbus is 'down'
[11:46] <main2> the lights are on because it gets power..
[11:46] <draik> main2: How do I get it "up" then?
[11:46] <zipper> Tm_T: oh, and that makes me arrogant? I'm helping all i can, believe me. I'm no guru though, my knowledge is limited. That makes me ignorant, not arrogant. You see the difference?
[11:46] <main2> draik, what cardbus?
[11:46] <fdoving> Sloik: you must edit a config file. kdesktoprc, in the [ScreenSaver]  section, Add AutoLogout=true \n AutoLogoutTimeout=600 (that's seconds) and \n means new line. you might also want to add [$i]  at the end of the [ScreenSaver]  line, if this is a global config file. to lock the setting.
[11:46] <zipper> draik: sorry, i have no experience with that particular card.
[11:46] <draik> Thanks anyway zipper
[11:46] <Tm_T> zipper: arrogant? I'm not saying that, all I say is reduce chatter when here's support issues going
[11:46] <Sloik> fdoving: Thanks! Where is this file located...?
[11:46] <draik> main2: What port do you mean?
[11:47] <main2> zipper, the suggestive way you're talking to people is said... get a life -> back on topic
[11:47] <main2> sad
[11:47] <fdoving> Sloik: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kdesktoprc is the kubuntu-default one.
[11:47] <Sloik> Cool, thanks much!
[11:47] <main2> the cardbus, can you post you lspci on www.pastbin.ca ?
[11:47] <fdoving> Sloik: the section isn't there, you should create it. keep in mind, if you add the [$i]  you lock all changes, ie.- users cant change screensaver.
[11:47] <darksoul> anyone uses wine here?
[11:47] <zipper> main2: I'm making up things? Get a life? Heh, says the person who wants to brag on a linux irc channel.... Anyway, yes, lets get back to topic
[11:47] <draik> main2: http://pastebin.ca/556976
[11:48] <draik> I pasted earlier
[11:48] <AFaith> hello there ... i've got a question
[11:48] <main2> zipper: i refuse to comment, im done with you.
[11:48] <AFaith> i've seen erlier
[11:48] <Sloik> fdoving: Cool.
[11:48] <AFaith> that someone brought in disscution
[11:48] <AFaith> something about .c & .h files
[11:48] <main2> draik, 00:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
[11:48] <darksoul> ermmm anyone can help me about wine plx?
[11:48] <main2> you dont see any dmesg events when inserting the pcmcia cards right?
[11:48] <Tm_T> !wine | darksoul
[11:49] <AFaith> can you provide me a hello.world application code in C and teach me how to compile it ?
[11:49] <gon> !es
[11:49] <main2> AFaith, #C #C++
[11:49] <zipper> darksoul: state your question, instead of asking to ask.
[11:49] <ubotu> darksoul: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:49] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:49] <cr4sh> qtparted crashes, when I try to install kubuntu(x64), shell states: "No Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.", what do I have to do?
[11:49] <draik> main2: How would I know? I don't see anything when I start up, other than kdewallet for my Kopete passwords
[11:50] <AFaith> main2: do you wanna chat in private ? to let the channel for the users that really need urgent help ?
[11:50] <zipper> AFaith: void main(){printf("Hello world");}
[11:50] <main2> AFaith, ^^
[11:50] <zipper> AFaith: you may want to double-check that
[11:51] <darksoul> ok how can i make the directory c:\windows\system32\program.exe visible to wine?
[11:51] <Sloik> !pastebin
[11:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:51] <main2> draik, can you open a console, then type: dmesg
[11:51] <fdoving> AFaith: http://rafb.net/p/qh4YtQ90.html for example. 'gcc -o hello hello.c' if you put that contents into hello.c
[11:51] <draik> main2: I did, nothing
 ............ after inserting the card and check if it works?
[11:51] <Tm_T> !ntfs | darksoul
[11:51] <ubotu> darksoul: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:51] <main2> AFaith, i recommend you to learn C++ right away, instead of C first
[11:52] <AFaith> fdoving: big thanks...
[11:52] <Sloik> fdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25030/ That's what it should look like?
[11:52] <main2> there is no need to, (like bjarne says as well)
[11:52] <draik> main2: whoa! Now I get something
[11:52] <Sloik> At least at the end of the file
[11:52] <AFaith> main2: i don't wanna learn c or c++ .. i'm just curios about how can i compile a .c or .h file :P
[11:52] <draik> main2: What am I looking for in the list?
[11:52] <draik> Pastebin?
[11:52] <main2> gcc main.c -o output.bin
[11:52] <darksoul> !ntfs-3g
[11:52] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:52] <zipper> main2: i dont believe Bjarne is right, learning C first forces you to learn good practices and lets you know a little more about whats going on under the hood.
[11:53] <Tm_T> zipper: nah
[11:53] <main2> zipper, its ambigeous
[11:53] <Tm_T> and that's slipping to offtopic too =)
[11:53] <main2> i mean, learning the same thing in 2 different ways ............ < ok too offtopic
[11:53] <Tm_T> yeah (:
[11:54] <zipper> Tm_T: just a personal oppinion, i know a lot of people will disagree with me. In the end, i dont think it matters too much which you learn first. Sorry for going offtopic again =/
[11:54] <main2> OO FTW, is my only comment remaining :P
[11:54] <main2> OOP
[11:54] <fdoving> Sloik: http://rafb.net/p/0eP9Rk14.html something like that, might want a screensaver too, might not be needed, try.
[11:54] <draik> main2: What is dmesg anyway?
[11:54] <zipper> C and C++ is far from being "the same thing"
[11:54] <main2> its the output of your system boot, and the output of loaded kernel modules
[11:54] <Tm_T> plop
[11:55] <Tm_T> oh hi fdoving
[11:55] <fdoving> hi tm_t.
[11:55] <draik> main2: Do you need me to do anything with it? Do I need to look for anything?
[11:55] <Sloik> fdoving: OK, cool. So these properties can still be changed by individual users for themselves?
[11:55] <main2> draik, since most likely a so 'kernel module' is loaded for your bay / card bus
[11:55] <main2> draik, can you type: dmesg > ~/Desktop/dmesg.txt
[11:56] <fdoving> Sloik: if you don't add the [$i]  for the section, yes.
[11:56] <Sloik> OK, thanks much!
[11:56] <main2> in a console, and then after doing so you find a textfile on your desktop .. open it> and pastbin it please ( www.pastebin.ca )
[11:56] <AFaith> fdoving: now ... i've created hello.c ... how do i make it ?
[11:56] <fdoving> Sloik: hope it works for you :)
[11:56] <Sloik> fdoving: Thanks :D
[11:56] <fdoving> AFaith: 'gcc -o hello hello.c'
[11:56] <zipper> AFaith: i believe main2 already told you
[11:56] <draik> main2: Not a problem. One moment please. Thanks for your help
[11:56] <fdoving> AFaith: from the commandline. in the directory where hello.c is saved.
[11:57] <AFaith> thanks zipper! maybe i've missed his reply
[11:57] <AFaith> big  thanks fdoving!
[11:57] <zipper> AFaith: wasnt trying to be a jackass, was only telling you cus' it seemed like you missed it.
[11:58] <main2> draik, what is the laptop model/type?
[11:58] <AFaith> no problem zipper!
[11:58] <draik> main2: HP Pavilion N5150
[11:59] <AFaith> fdoving: it doest work ...it's telling me that in function main there are a couple of problems
[11:59] <draik> main2: http://pastebin.ca/557194
[11:59] <zipper> AFaith: can you paste the code somewhere?
[11:59] <zipper> AFaith: and include the errors
[11:59] <AFaith> gimme a sec
[12:00] <fdoving> AFaith: works for me.
[12:00] <CPrgmSwR2> what package is htsearch in
[12:00] <zipper> fdoving: time to show off the good old !works-for-me? :)
[12:01] <jarn> I see an Advanced Text Editor in Kate, but is there a basic text editor? I just want something that will open a text file quickly.
[12:01] <main2> draik, ok brother
[12:01] <main2> i got the solution for you, be happy that you're talking to me ;)
[12:01] <zipper> jarn: doesnt kate open a text file pretty fast already?
[12:01] <fdoving> zipper: yep.
[12:01] <AFaith> fdoving: http://rafb.net/p/dt6gpE42.html here is the code & the output of the console
[12:01] <Karti> jarn: what about vim ?
[12:01] <zipper> jarn: i guess you could always go the console way, using vim/emacs/nano/whatever
[12:01] <jarn> zipper: Well, it opens it quick, but Kate doesn't open quick.
[12:02] <draik> main2: SWEET.. I was thinking "Wait until the 3rd sunday of the 13th month during the full moon in the mid afternoon of a halestorm..."
[12:02] <jarn> Well, the text file I'm looking at is about 800 megabytes, so that might be a little hard to manage in a console.
[12:02] <main2> draik, what version of kubu are you running
[12:02] <main2> not the latest arent you?
[12:02] <zipper> main2: i bet he is... too bad not everyone gets that privilege =/
[12:02] <jarn> I'm looking for something like mousepad, but mousepad is a gnome app.
[12:03] <draik> main2: Edgy Eft
[12:03] <draik> 6.10
[12:03] <main2> Dragnslcr, you need to boot with the following kernel option: pci=assign=busses
[12:03] <main2> if you dont do this, the yenta cardbus wont work
[12:03] <main2> i had the same cardbus in a laptop, which i had one day........
[12:04] <draik> Yenta? I'ts a Netgear
[12:04] <zipper> jarn: it think you'll find it hard to manage in a GUI. You're already experiencing slow performance of kate right?
[12:04] <AFaith> zipper , fdoving nothing ?
[12:04] <jarn> zipper: Well, I realize anything is going to open a huge text file slow. What I'm talking about is that Kate opens itself slow.
[12:04] <main2> draik, your cardbus (the thing you slide the card in) is a yenta
[12:04] <main2> the pcmcia-adapter for wireless you got is a netgeat =)
[12:05] <draik> main2: Oh. Sorry, no more stupid remarks from me.
[12:05] <fdoving> AFaith: what does it complain about?
[12:05] <zipper> AFaith: you seem to have missed placing a main() ?
[12:05] <draik> main2: So what do I need to do?
[12:05] <main2> Tm_T, is there !someoption to explain a person how to use a kernel param?
[12:06] <AFaith> zipper: edit that code and paste it there :P please
[12:06] <zipper> AFaith: hang on
[12:06] <AFaith> oh ... you're my hero :P
[12:06] <Tm_T> !ubotu | main2
[12:06] <ubotu> main2: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:07] <zipper> AFaith: oh, nevermind, you already have a main. My bad, i'm very tired.
[12:07] <Tm_T> zipper: you should sleep then :)
[12:07] <draik> main2: What am I needing to do?
[12:07] <fdoving> AFaith: you cut'n pasted. don't do that. write it.
[12:07] <jarn> Is there a way to split a text file up into multiple smaller ones?
[12:08] <main2> how do i explain draik to use this "pci=assign=busses" kernel parameter?
[12:08] <AFaith> zipper: me too ... i think i'm going to skip this and go to bed :P
[12:08] <zipper> Tm_T: i should study for tomorrow to be honest
[12:08] <AFaith> fdoving: why ? do you think thats the problem ?
[12:08] <zipper> AFaith: wait a sec
[12:08] <fdoving> jarn: have a look at 'man split'
[12:08] <fdoving> AFaith: yes.
[12:08] <draik> main2: I already did... but I did "pci=assign_busses"
[12:08] <jarn> fdoving: Thanks. :)
[12:08] <main2> draik, where did you do > pci=assign-busses?
[12:08] <fdoving> AFaith: it basically says there are invalid characters.
[12:09] <draik> main2: On the kernel line. I just added pci=assign_busses
[12:09] <AFaith> ok then... let's try it :P gimme a sec
[12:09] <main2> draik, sh1t.. i copy pasted pci=assign=busses from a faq i wrote earlier
[12:09] <zipper> AFaith: http://rafb.net/p/e9czM413.html
[12:09] <draik> main2: menu.lst file, on the Kernel line of the option I use
[12:09] <zipper> AFaith: here you go
[12:10] <main2> need o fix that then.... its ok draik
[12:10] <main2> you know what to do :D
[12:10] <jarn> fdoving: Wow, this file I'm messing with is so big I exhausted the output file suffixes. :P
[12:10] <draik> main2: No I don't. I entered that in the kernel line, restarted and still nothing
[12:10] <draik> main2: I'm not online with my laptop
[12:10] <main2> ok, draik gimme one sec
[12:10] <Graham> Sup people!
[12:10] <main2> i think its pci=assign-busses
[12:11] <main2> not with an underscore
[12:11] <main2> definitly not with a double equal-sign
[12:11] <zipper> AFaith: if it doesnt work for you.... you haven't copy/pasted it correctly
[12:11] <jarn> Is there a way to check how many lines are in a file?
[12:11] <main2> draik, it indeed is "pci=assign-busses"
[12:11] <fdoving> jarn: wc
[12:11] <main2> and nothing else
[12:11] <fdoving> jarn: man wc
[12:11] <jarn> fdoving: Thanks.
[12:11] <main2> use it, and it'll work
[12:11] <draik> main2: do it's a "dash" not an "underscore"?
[12:12] <main2> yes
[12:12] <draik> main2: Here goes nothing
[12:12] <main2>  pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses  pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses  pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses  pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses  pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses pci=assign-busses
[12:12] <main2> like this :P
[12:12] <main2> you added it in your menu.lst right?
[12:12] <darksoul> how do i install gksudo?
[12:13] <draik> main2: Yes, but not that many times :P
[12:13] <zipper> darksoul: apt-get install gksudo? But i believe KDE has something similar to gksudo....