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| logmein | hello | 07:31 |
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| jrib | logmein: hello | 07:31 |
| omegacenti | Hey :) | 07:31 |
| logmein | hi | 07:31 |
| jrib | logmein: did you do 'sudo fdisk -l' to find your drive? | 07:31 |
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| logmein | yep /dev/hdb like how I guessed | 07:32 |
| jrib | alright, is it formatted? | 07:32 |
| logmein | umm it says above it "Partition table entries are not in disk order" | 07:33 |
| jrib | hmm not sure what that is. Is there any data on it you need to get at? | 07:33 |
| logmein | I'm assuming its blank since it shows nothing | 07:33 |
| logmein | nope | 07:33 |
| jrib | logmein: alright, run gparted and see if it is already formatted how you want it (and format it if it isn't) | 07:34 |
| logmein | ok I wrote an ext3 partition on it now | 07:34 |
| jrib | ok | 07:34 |
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| logmein | now do I just mount it and check it? | 07:34 |
| jrib | first, make a mount point: sudo mkdir /media/hdb | 07:34 |
| jrib | yeah, you know how to do this? | 07:34 |
| logmein | was hoping there might be way to get it to show up in file manager and other places | 07:34 |
| jrib | it will once you mount it | 07:35 |
| logmein | ok | 07:35 |
| logmein | so I mount it in /media ok | 07:35 |
| jrib | create a directory in /media called "hdb" and then mount it to /media/hdb | 07:35 |
| jrib | so your fstab line would look something like: | 07:36 |
| jrib | /dev/hdb /media/hdb vfat defaults 0 2 | 07:37 |
| logmein | ok | 07:37 |
| jrib | /dev/hdb /media/hdb ext3 defaults 0 2 | 07:37 |
| jrib | oops | 07:37 |
| omegacenti | What is Fstab? | 07:38 |
| jrib | !fstab | 07:38 |
| ubotu | The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions | 07:38 |
| omegacenti | thanks :) | 07:38 |
| logmein | umm odd,,, | 07:38 |
| ralph | please help me with my apache - php install i'm getting the following errors[Sun Jun 10 12:08:44 2007] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] SoftException in Applicati | 07:38 |
| logmein | it detects it now | 07:38 |
| ralph | on.cpp:297: UID of script "/var/www/dev.ralph.com/phpinfo.php" is smaller than m | 07:38 |
| ralph | in_uid | 07:38 |
| ralph | [Sun Jun 10 12:08:44 2007] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Premature end of script he | 07:38 |
| ralph | aders | 07:38 |
| logmein | ok thanks for help but I have no clue what I just did its showing up though | 07:38 |
| jrib | ralph: try #ubuntu, but do not paste errors like that. Instead use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | 07:38 |
| jrib | logmein: hmm did you get to add the line to fstab or did it just show up on its own? | 07:39 |
| logmein | well I fdisked it as 83 then it did a sync and opened up the folder in thunar | 07:39 |
| jrib | ah ok | 07:40 |
| logmein | I then deleted the old linux system on it as root and have a blank hard drive here | 07:40 |
| logmein | I was just troubled by the fact I couldn't mount it | 07:40 |
| logmein | and how come fdisk didn't erase that old stuff on it? | 07:40 |
| jrib | well you may still want to set it up in fstab to make it mount where you want it to | 07:40 |
| omegacenti | LOL cool! Can you mount something thats not a media? Like a text file or a sound card? | 07:41 |
| logmein | omegacenti: umm its called a text editor... | 07:41 |
| jrib | you mount file systems omegacenti | 07:41 |
| omegacenti | logmein: Im talking about weird mounts. | 07:41 |
| omegacenti | jrib: so I could format my usb stick to ext3 and then mount it as /dev/usbstick | 07:42 |
| jrib | yes if you want to | 07:42 |
| logmein | omegacenti are you talking about mounting iso files? | 07:42 |
| logmein | omegacenti like images of media? | 07:42 |
| omegacenti | logmein: that too ^_^ | 07:42 |
| omegacenti | holy crap linux is powerful. | 07:42 |
| omegacenti | Why.. oh why is Microsoft dominant. | 07:42 |
| jrib | well you can mount iso's in windows too... | 07:42 |
| logmein | dominant?.. last I checked they used linux for msn servers.. | 07:43 |
| omegacenti | jrib: little hard unless alcohol 120 or Dameon tools | 07:43 |
| jrib | true | 07:43 |
| omegacenti | I know windows.. I don't knkow linux :) | 07:43 |
| jrib | !iso | 07:43 |
| omegacenti | logmein: retail consumer. not server/industrial :p | 07:43 |
| ubotu | To mount an ISO disc image, type sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. | 07:43 |
| omegacenti | frickin... amazing. | 07:44 |
| jrib | logmein: I'm not sure why the data wasn't wiped, but is it working ok now? | 07:44 |
| omegacenti | now if only you could mount a file in grub and run it off that. | 07:44 |
| omegacenti | Or can you... | 07:44 |
| logmein | jrib: yeah its fine | 07:44 |
| jrib | great | 07:44 |
| omegacenti | jrib: Best op around :) | 07:45 |
| logmein | jrib: I just hope it still doesn't have that swap partition somewhere on there but even if it does I might use it instead of my other hard drive for faster loading | 07:45 |
| omegacenti | logmein: if Gparted syas it doesn't exist on that hardrive I am not sure but I think it doesn't/ | 07:45 |
| logmein | I didn't use gparted what does that do? | 07:46 |
| omegacenti | logmein: its a gui gnome partition manager :) | 07:46 |
| omegacenti | in a terminal type: gksudo gparted | 07:46 |
| logmein | I have this empty floppy drive that I need to fill, anyone know of something kool I can format one with? | 07:46 |
| omegacenti | I think gparted will do it. | 07:47 |
| omegacenti | logmein: Hope you are having as much as I am with linux ^_^ | 07:47 |
| logmein | oh I use xfce not gnome | 07:47 |
| omegacenti | xfce is built off of gnome | 07:47 |
| omegacenti | you might still have gparted | 07:48 |
| omegacenti | ubuntu and derivatives I think come with gparted default. | 07:48 |
| omegacenti | try it and see if you have it | 07:48 |
| logmein | nope | 07:48 |
| omegacenti | doh | 07:48 |
| omegacenti | apt-get install gparted | 07:48 |
| omegacenti | good application to have around anyways. | 07:48 |
| logmein | what for :P | 07:48 |
| omegacenti | I dunno. Because it is nice! :) | 07:49 |
| omegacenti | Im going to go read rute. | 07:50 |
| logmein | I'm thinking I should some how shove all dev files, compilers, movies, pictures etc into my 249G harddrive then make a slimmed down OS on my main 41G | 07:50 |
| omegacenti | It can be done! | 07:50 |
| omegacenti | you just have to have the will. | 07:50 |
| omegacenti | Right now Im working with 63gig | 07:50 |
| logmein | my whole system is 11G | 07:51 |
| omegacenti | al the good stuff is on my dekstop harddrive | 07:51 |
| omegacenti | mines 6.1 | 07:51 |
| logmein | I like never delete an installer or anything | 07:51 |
| omegacenti | logmein: I don't know how to :) | 07:51 |
| logmein | rofl | 07:52 |
| omegacenti | right now all I have is my pretty colors and my book of Rute | 07:52 |
| logmein | rute? | 07:53 |
| omegacenti | !rute | 07:53 |
| ubotu | documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com | 07:53 |
| omegacenti | that last one | 07:53 |
| omegacenti | AMAZING read on all things linux | 07:53 |
| logmein | umm ok | 07:54 |
| omegacenti | thing has so far taught me how to do things I didn't know possible | 07:54 |
| logmein | I just read the junk at www.linux.org | 07:54 |
| omegacenti | lol | 07:54 |
| omegacenti | logmein: is the end all reference. its similar to dummies guide | 07:54 |
| logmein | and some fedora handbook I found at bookstore, got it discounted | 07:54 |
| omegacenti | ^_^ should have picked up a debian one though... of course I don't know what fedora is but... | 07:54 |
| logmein | nah debian sucks, I go ubuntu any day | 07:55 |
| omegacenti | logmein: ubuntu is debian based. | 07:55 |
| logmein | holy crap that book is huge | 07:56 |
| omegacenti | logmein: seriously. just looked at it right? LOL | 07:56 |
| logmein | I might check it out | 07:56 |
| omegacenti | logmein: name something you have done in linux.. I think its there. | 07:56 |
| omegacenti | Grats on finding the Book of Rute. | 07:56 |
| logmein | ooh info on dial-in servers just what I've been looking for | 07:57 |
| omegacenti | oh and a package you can install is rutebook if you want it locally | 07:57 |
| logmein | thx! | 07:57 |
| omegacenti | lol grats! | 07:57 |
| omegacenti | I have no idea what a dial in server is but I guess I will know when I get there :) | 07:57 |
| omegacenti | Im reading the entire book as a project this summer. | 07:58 |
| logmein | you ever check out the perl guide they pass about | 07:58 |
| logmein | its pretty nice for beginner | 07:58 |
| omegacenti | I don't know what perl is | 07:58 |
| omegacenti | !perl | 07:58 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about perl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 07:58 |
| omegacenti | neither does ubotu lol | 07:59 |
| logmein | very nice programming language for text manipulation and webpage design etc | 07:59 |
| omegacenti | Ah, not much for web page design. | 07:59 |
| logmein | its really for anything | 07:59 |
| omegacenti | ah | 07:59 |
| jrib | heh ubotu doesn't have a perl factoid | 07:59 |
| jrib | !python | 07:59 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 07:59 |
| jrib | aww | 07:59 |
| omegacenti | I might check it out when I understand linux more | 07:59 |
| omegacenti | I felt too sheltered by Windows. | 07:59 |
| omegacenti | I moved to linux to expand my horizons. | 07:59 |
| logmein | python sucks just use C++ if your going to bother with all that foo | 07:59 |
| omegacenti | Also, Double EE doesn't have too terribly an interest in most programming languages (there ARE exceptions to this, I know) | 08:00 |
| omegacenti | err EE lol | 08:00 |
| omegacenti | its early | 08:00 |
| jrib | EEEE | 08:00 |
| omegacenti | EEEE the GOD of EE | 08:00 |
| omegacenti | The Electrical Engineering of Electrical engineers.. robot pioneer science.. lol | 08:01 |
| omegacenti | jrib: I just installed rutebook. is it gui? | 08:02 |
| jrib | omegacenti: do: dpkg -L rutebook | 08:02 |
| omegacenti | jrib: what does that do? | 08:02 |
| jrib | try it | 08:02 |
| omegacenti | what the heckk.. a listing of stuff. apparently from the book | 08:03 |
| omegacenti | so its not gui | 08:03 |
| jrib | it lists all the files installed | 08:03 |
| omegacenti | cool! | 08:03 |
| jrib | it probably just puts a bunch of file in /usr/share/doc/rutebook . If they're html, open them in your browser | 08:03 |
| omegacenti | so I can find out what wine installed by doing dpkg -L wine | 08:03 |
| jrib | yep | 08:03 |
| omegacenti | jrib: I wonder whats the beginning of the book... | 08:04 |
| omegacenti | index.html? | 08:04 |
| jrib | probably | 08:04 |
| omegacenti | lol 9 megs of book. only book. | 08:04 |
| omegacenti | roughly similar to 9,000,000 character + formatting? | 08:05 |
| omegacenti | hmmm. if I want to open something like rute.pdf.gz what do I do, and what is .gz? | 08:05 |
| jrib | gz means it is compressed by gzip | 08:06 |
| jrib | like .zip in windows | 08:06 |
| omegacenti | ah | 08:06 |
| omegacenti | is gzip pretty strong? | 08:07 |
| omegacenti | or configurably so? | 08:07 |
| omegacenti | I'm looking for the strongest compression (lostless) known to man kind. and if its on linux great :) | 08:07 |
| jrib | it does decent compression, bzip2 is the other common one. bzip2 is slower but compresses better in general | 08:07 |
| logmein | it runs fine while being compressed I see no need to do otherwise to my copy | 08:07 |
| logmein | bzip2 is slooowwwww | 08:08 |
| jrib | omegacenti: you can do 'evince file.pdf.gz' apparently | 08:08 |
| omegacenti | savenetradio.org | 08:08 |
| logmein | and nearly killed my laptop using it before on a huge file :P | 08:08 |
| omegacenti | evince? | 08:08 |
| jrib | default pdf viewer in gnome | 08:08 |
| logmein | well I got to go | 08:09 |
| logmein | omegacenti see you around | 08:09 |
| jrib | gnome-open file.pdf.gz would work too I suppose | 08:09 |
| jrib | bye logmein | 08:09 |
| logmein | jrib: thx for showing me this other channel | 08:09 |
| omegacenti | ah cool | 08:09 |
| omegacenti | jrib: So everything knows how to unzip .gz? | 08:09 |
| jrib | no | 08:09 |
| logmein | omg ubotu here too, stalker! | 08:09 |
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| omegacenti | I mean how does evinve know what to do with a .gz? | 08:09 |
| omegacenti | lol! | 08:10 |
| omegacenti | hold on I have to go call my representatives... Someones trying to screw with my internet radio. | 08:11 |
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