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logmeinhello07:31
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jriblogmein: hello07:31
omegacentiHey :)07:31
logmeinhi07:31
jriblogmein: did you do 'sudo fdisk -l' to find your drive?07:31
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logmeinyep /dev/hdb like how I guessed07:32
jribalright, is it formatted?07:32
logmeinumm it says above it "Partition table entries are not in disk order"07:33
jribhmm not sure what that is.  Is there any data on it you need to get at?07:33
logmeinI'm assuming its blank since it shows nothing07:33
logmeinnope07:33
jriblogmein: alright, run gparted and see if it is already formatted how you want it (and format it if it isn't)07:34
logmeinok I wrote an ext3 partition on it now07:34
jribok07:34
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logmeinnow do I just mount it and check it?07:34
jribfirst, make a mount point:  sudo mkdir /media/hdb07:34
jribyeah, you know how to do this?07:34
logmeinwas hoping there might be way to get it to show up in file manager and other places07:34
jribit will once you mount it07:35
logmeinok07:35
logmeinso I mount it in /media ok07:35
jribcreate a directory in /media called "hdb" and then mount it to /media/hdb07:35
jribso your fstab line would look something like:07:36
jrib/dev/hdb    /media/hdb    vfat    defaults    0    207:37
logmeinok07:37
jrib/dev/hdb    /media/hdb    ext3    defaults    0    207:37
jriboops07:37
omegacentiWhat is Fstab?07:38
jrib!fstab07:38
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions07:38
omegacentithanks :)07:38
logmeinumm odd,,,07:38
ralphplease help me with  my apache - php  install i'm getting the following errors[Sun Jun 10 12:08:44 2007]  [error]  [client 127.0.0.1]  SoftException in Applicati07:38
logmeinit detects it now07:38
ralphon.cpp:297: UID of script "/var/www/dev.ralph.com/phpinfo.php" is smaller than m07:38
ralphin_uid07:38
ralph[Sun Jun 10 12:08:44 2007]  [error]  [client 127.0.0.1]  Premature end of script he07:38
ralphaders07:38
logmeinok thanks for help but I have no clue what I just did its showing up though07:38
jribralph: try #ubuntu, but do not paste errors like that.  Instead use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:38
jriblogmein: hmm did you get to add the line to fstab or did it just show up on its own?07:39
logmeinwell I fdisked it as 83 then it did a sync and opened up the folder in thunar07:39
jribah ok07:40
logmeinI then deleted the old linux system on it as root and have a blank hard drive here07:40
logmeinI was just troubled by the fact I couldn't mount it07:40
logmeinand how come fdisk didn't erase that old stuff on it?07:40
jribwell you may still want to set it up in fstab to make it mount where you want it to07:40
omegacentiLOL cool! Can you mount something thats not a media? Like a text file or a sound card?07:41
logmeinomegacenti: umm its called a text editor...07:41
jribyou mount file systems omegacenti07:41
omegacentilogmein: Im talking about weird mounts.07:41
omegacentijrib: so I could format my usb stick to ext3 and then mount it as /dev/usbstick07:42
jribyes if you want to07:42
logmeinomegacenti are you talking about mounting iso files?07:42
logmeinomegacenti like images of media?07:42
omegacentilogmein: that too ^_^07:42
omegacentiholy crap linux is powerful.07:42
omegacentiWhy.. oh why is Microsoft dominant.07:42
jribwell you can mount iso's in windows too...07:42
logmeindominant?.. last I checked they used linux for msn servers..07:43
omegacentijrib: little hard unless alcohol 120 or Dameon tools07:43
jribtrue07:43
omegacentiI know windows.. I don't knkow linux :)07:43
jrib!iso07:43
omegacentilogmein: retail consumer. not server/industrial :p07:43
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.07:43
omegacentifrickin... amazing.07:44
jriblogmein: I'm not sure why the data wasn't wiped, but is it working ok now?07:44
omegacentinow if only you could mount a file in grub and run it off that.07:44
omegacentiOr can you...07:44
logmeinjrib: yeah its fine07:44
jribgreat07:44
omegacentijrib: Best op around :)07:45
logmeinjrib: I just hope it still doesn't have that swap partition somewhere on there but even if it does I might use it instead of my other hard drive for faster loading07:45
omegacentilogmein: if Gparted syas it doesn't exist on that hardrive I am not sure but I think it doesn't/07:45
logmeinI didn't use gparted what does that do?07:46
omegacentilogmein: its a gui gnome partition manager :)07:46
omegacentiin a terminal type: gksudo gparted07:46
logmeinI have this empty floppy drive that I need to fill, anyone know of something kool I can format one with?07:46
omegacentiI think gparted will do it.07:47
omegacentilogmein: Hope you are having as much as I am with linux ^_^07:47
logmeinoh I use xfce not gnome07:47
omegacentixfce is built off of gnome07:47
omegacentiyou might still have gparted07:48
omegacentiubuntu and derivatives I think come with gparted default.07:48
omegacentitry it and see if you have it07:48
logmeinnope07:48
omegacentidoh07:48
omegacentiapt-get install gparted07:48
omegacentigood application to have around anyways.07:48
logmeinwhat for :P07:48
omegacentiI dunno. Because it is nice! :)07:49
omegacentiIm going to go read rute.07:50
logmeinI'm thinking I should some how shove all dev files, compilers, movies, pictures etc into my 249G harddrive then make a slimmed down OS on my main 41G07:50
omegacentiIt can be done!07:50
omegacentiyou just have to have the will.07:50
omegacentiRight now Im working with 63gig07:50
logmeinmy whole system is 11G07:51
omegacential the good stuff is on my dekstop harddrive07:51
omegacentimines 6.107:51
logmeinI like never delete an installer or anything07:51
omegacentilogmein: I don't know how to :)07:51
logmeinrofl07:52
omegacentiright now all I have is my pretty colors and my book of Rute07:52
logmeinrute?07:53
omegacenti!rute07:53
ubotudocumentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com07:53
omegacentithat last one07:53
omegacentiAMAZING read on all things linux07:53
logmeinumm ok07:54
omegacentithing has so far taught me how to do things I didn't know possible07:54
logmeinI just read the junk at www.linux.org07:54
omegacentilol07:54
omegacentilogmein: is the end all reference. its similar to dummies guide07:54
logmeinand some fedora handbook I found at bookstore, got it discounted07:54
omegacenti^_^ should have picked up a debian one though... of course I don't know what fedora is but...07:54
logmeinnah debian sucks, I go ubuntu any day07:55
omegacentilogmein: ubuntu is debian based.07:55
logmeinholy crap that book is huge07:56
omegacentilogmein: seriously. just looked at it right? LOL07:56
logmeinI might check it out07:56
omegacentilogmein: name something you have done in linux.. I think its there.07:56
omegacentiGrats on finding the Book of Rute.07:56
logmeinooh info on dial-in servers just what I've been looking for07:57
omegacentioh and a package you can install is rutebook if you want it locally07:57
logmeinthx!07:57
omegacentilol grats!07:57
omegacentiI have no idea what a dial in server is but I guess I will know when I get there :)07:57
omegacentiIm reading the entire book as a project this summer.07:58
logmeinyou ever check out the perl guide they pass about07:58
logmeinits pretty nice for beginner07:58
omegacentiI don't know what perl is07:58
omegacenti!perl07:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about perl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:58
omegacentineither does ubotu lol07:59
logmeinvery nice programming language for text manipulation and webpage design etc07:59
omegacentiAh, not much for web page design.07:59
logmeinits really for anything07:59
omegacentiah07:59
jribheh ubotu doesn't have a perl factoid07:59
jrib!python07:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:59
jribaww07:59
omegacentiI might check it out when I understand linux more07:59
omegacentiI felt too sheltered by Windows.07:59
omegacentiI moved to linux to expand my horizons.07:59
logmeinpython sucks just use C++ if your going to bother with all that foo07:59
omegacentiAlso, Double EE doesn't have too terribly an interest in most programming languages (there ARE exceptions to this, I know)08:00
omegacentierr EE lol08:00
omegacentiits early08:00
jribEEEE08:00
omegacentiEEEE the GOD of EE08:00
omegacentiThe Electrical Engineering of Electrical engineers.. robot pioneer science.. lol08:01
omegacentijrib: I just installed rutebook. is it gui?08:02
jribomegacenti: do:  dpkg -L rutebook08:02
omegacentijrib: what does that do?08:02
jribtry it08:02
omegacentiwhat the heckk.. a listing of stuff. apparently from the book08:03
omegacentiso its not gui08:03
jribit lists all the files installed08:03
omegacenticool!08:03
jribit probably just puts a bunch of file in /usr/share/doc/rutebook .  If they're html, open them in your browser08:03
omegacentiso I can find out what wine installed by doing dpkg -L wine08:03
jribyep08:03
omegacentijrib: I wonder whats the beginning of the book...08:04
omegacentiindex.html?08:04
jribprobably08:04
omegacentilol 9 megs of book. only book.08:04
omegacentiroughly similar to 9,000,000 character + formatting?08:05
omegacentihmmm. if I want to open something like rute.pdf.gz what do I do, and what is .gz?08:05
jribgz means it is compressed by gzip08:06
jriblike .zip in windows08:06
omegacentiah08:06
omegacentiis gzip pretty strong?08:07
omegacentior configurably so?08:07
omegacentiI'm looking for the strongest compression (lostless) known to man kind. and if its on linux great :)08:07
jribit does decent compression, bzip2 is the other common one.  bzip2 is slower but compresses better in general08:07
logmeinit runs fine while being compressed I see no need to do otherwise to my copy08:07
logmeinbzip2 is slooowwwww08:08
jribomegacenti: you can do 'evince file.pdf.gz' apparently08:08
omegacentisavenetradio.org08:08
logmeinand nearly killed my laptop using it before on a huge file :P08:08
omegacentievince?08:08
jribdefault pdf viewer in gnome08:08
logmeinwell I got to go08:09
logmeinomegacenti see you around08:09
jribgnome-open file.pdf.gz  would work too I suppose08:09
jribbye logmein08:09
logmeinjrib: thx for showing me this other channel08:09
omegacentiah cool08:09
omegacentijrib: So everything knows how to unzip .gz?08:09
jribno08:09
logmeinomg ubotu here too, stalker!08:09
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omegacentiI mean how does evinve know what to do with a .gz?08:09
omegacentilol!08:10
omegacentihold on I have to go call my representatives... Someones trying to screw with my internet radio.08:11
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