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[07:33] umm it says above it "Partition table entries are not in disk order" [07:33] hmm not sure what that is. Is there any data on it you need to get at? [07:33] I'm assuming its blank since it shows nothing [07:33] nope [07:34] logmein: alright, run gparted and see if it is already formatted how you want it (and format it if it isn't) [07:34] ok I wrote an ext3 partition on it now [07:34] ok === ralph [n=chatzill@12-216-58-244.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [07:34] now do I just mount it and check it? [07:34] first, make a mount point: sudo mkdir /media/hdb [07:34] yeah, you know how to do this? [07:34] was hoping there might be way to get it to show up in file manager and other places [07:35] it will once you mount it [07:35] ok [07:35] so I mount it in /media ok [07:35] create a directory in /media called "hdb" and then mount it to /media/hdb [07:36] so your fstab line would look something like: [07:37] /dev/hdb /media/hdb vfat defaults 0 2 [07:37] ok [07:37] /dev/hdb /media/hdb ext3 defaults 0 2 [07:37] oops [07:38] What is Fstab? [07:38] !fstab [07:38] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [07:38] thanks :) [07:38] umm odd,,, [07:38] please help me with my apache - php install i'm getting the following errors[Sun Jun 10 12:08:44 2007] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] SoftException in Applicati [07:38] it detects it now [07:38] on.cpp:297: UID of script "/var/www/dev.ralph.com/phpinfo.php" is smaller than m [07:38] in_uid [07:38] [Sun Jun 10 12:08:44 2007] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Premature end of script he [07:38] aders [07:38] ok thanks for help but I have no clue what I just did its showing up though [07:38] ralph: try #ubuntu, but do not paste errors like that. Instead use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org [07:39] logmein: hmm did you get to add the line to fstab or did it just show up on its own? [07:39] well I fdisked it as 83 then it did a sync and opened up the folder in thunar [07:40] ah ok [07:40] I then deleted the old linux system on it as root and have a blank hard drive here [07:40] I was just troubled by the fact I couldn't mount it [07:40] and how come fdisk didn't erase that old stuff on it? [07:40] well you may still want to set it up in fstab to make it mount where you want it to [07:41] LOL cool! Can you mount something thats not a media? Like a text file or a sound card? [07:41] omegacenti: umm its called a text editor... [07:41] you mount file systems omegacenti [07:41] logmein: Im talking about weird mounts. [07:42] jrib: so I could format my usb stick to ext3 and then mount it as /dev/usbstick [07:42] yes if you want to [07:42] omegacenti are you talking about mounting iso files? [07:42] omegacenti like images of media? [07:42] logmein: that too ^_^ [07:42] holy crap linux is powerful. [07:42] Why.. oh why is Microsoft dominant. [07:42] well you can mount iso's in windows too... [07:43] dominant?.. last I checked they used linux for msn servers.. [07:43] jrib: little hard unless alcohol 120 or Dameon tools [07:43] true [07:43] I know windows.. I don't knkow linux :) [07:43] !iso [07:43] logmein: retail consumer. not server/industrial :p [07:43] To mount an ISO disc image, type sudo mount -o loop - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. [07:44] frickin... amazing. [07:44] logmein: I'm not sure why the data wasn't wiped, but is it working ok now? [07:44] now if only you could mount a file in grub and run it off that. [07:44] Or can you... [07:44] jrib: yeah its fine [07:44] great [07:45] jrib: Best op around :) [07:45] jrib: I just hope it still doesn't have that swap partition somewhere on there but even if it does I might use it instead of my other hard drive for faster loading [07:45] logmein: if Gparted syas it doesn't exist on that hardrive I am not sure but I think it doesn't/ [07:46] I didn't use gparted what does that do? [07:46] logmein: its a gui gnome partition manager :) [07:46] in a terminal type: gksudo gparted [07:46] I have this empty floppy drive that I need to fill, anyone know of something kool I can format one with? [07:47] I think gparted will do it. [07:47] logmein: Hope you are having as much as I am with linux ^_^ [07:47] oh I use xfce not gnome [07:47] xfce is built off of gnome [07:48] you might still have gparted [07:48] ubuntu and derivatives I think come with gparted default. [07:48] try it and see if you have it [07:48] nope [07:48] doh [07:48] apt-get install gparted [07:48] good application to have around anyways. [07:48] what for :P [07:49] I dunno. Because it is nice! :) [07:50] Im going to go read rute. [07:50] I'm thinking I should some how shove all dev files, compilers, movies, pictures etc into my 249G harddrive then make a slimmed down OS on my main 41G [07:50] It can be done! [07:50] you just have to have the will. [07:50] Right now Im working with 63gig [07:51] my whole system is 11G [07:51] al the good stuff is on my dekstop harddrive [07:51] mines 6.1 [07:51] I like never delete an installer or anything [07:51] logmein: I don't know how to :) [07:52] rofl [07:52] right now all I have is my pretty colors and my book of Rute [07:53] rute? [07:53] !rute [07:53] documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com [07:53] that last one [07:53] AMAZING read on all things linux [07:54] umm ok [07:54] thing has so far taught me how to do things I didn't know possible [07:54] I just read the junk at www.linux.org [07:54] lol [07:54] logmein: is the end all reference. its similar to dummies guide [07:54] and some fedora handbook I found at bookstore, got it discounted [07:54] ^_^ should have picked up a debian one though... of course I don't know what fedora is but... [07:55] nah debian sucks, I go ubuntu any day [07:55] logmein: ubuntu is debian based. [07:56] holy crap that book is huge [07:56] logmein: seriously. just looked at it right? LOL [07:56] I might check it out [07:56] logmein: name something you have done in linux.. I think its there. [07:56] Grats on finding the Book of Rute. [07:57] ooh info on dial-in servers just what I've been looking for [07:57] oh and a package you can install is rutebook if you want it locally [07:57] thx! [07:57] lol grats! [07:57] I have no idea what a dial in server is but I guess I will know when I get there :) [07:58] Im reading the entire book as a project this summer. [07:58] you ever check out the perl guide they pass about [07:58] its pretty nice for beginner [07:58] I don't know what perl is [07:58] !perl [07:58] Sorry, I don't know anything about perl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [07:59] neither does ubotu lol [07:59] very nice programming language for text manipulation and webpage design etc [07:59] Ah, not much for web page design. [07:59] its really for anything [07:59] ah [07:59] heh ubotu doesn't have a perl factoid [07:59] !python [07:59] Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [07:59] aww [07:59] I might check it out when I understand linux more [07:59] I felt too sheltered by Windows. [07:59] I moved to linux to expand my horizons. [07:59] python sucks just use C++ if your going to bother with all that foo [08:00] Also, Double EE doesn't have too terribly an interest in most programming languages (there ARE exceptions to this, I know) [08:00] err EE lol [08:00] its early [08:00] EEEE [08:00] EEEE the GOD of EE [08:01] The Electrical Engineering of Electrical engineers.. robot pioneer science.. lol [08:02] jrib: I just installed rutebook. is it gui? [08:02] omegacenti: do: dpkg -L rutebook [08:02] jrib: what does that do? [08:02] try it [08:03] what the heckk.. a listing of stuff. apparently from the book [08:03] so its not gui [08:03] it lists all the files installed [08:03] cool! [08:03] it probably just puts a bunch of file in /usr/share/doc/rutebook . If they're html, open them in your browser [08:03] so I can find out what wine installed by doing dpkg -L wine [08:03] yep [08:04] jrib: I wonder whats the beginning of the book... [08:04] index.html? [08:04] probably [08:04] lol 9 megs of book. only book. [08:05] roughly similar to 9,000,000 character + formatting? [08:05] hmmm. if I want to open something like rute.pdf.gz what do I do, and what is .gz? [08:06] gz means it is compressed by gzip [08:06] like .zip in windows [08:06] ah [08:07] is gzip pretty strong? [08:07] or configurably so? [08:07] I'm looking for the strongest compression (lostless) known to man kind. and if its on linux great :) [08:07] it does decent compression, bzip2 is the other common one. bzip2 is slower but compresses better in general [08:07] it runs fine while being compressed I see no need to do otherwise to my copy [08:08] bzip2 is slooowwwww [08:08] omegacenti: you can do 'evince file.pdf.gz' apparently [08:08] savenetradio.org [08:08] and nearly killed my laptop using it before on a huge file :P [08:08] evince? [08:08] default pdf viewer in gnome [08:09] well I got to go [08:09] omegacenti see you around [08:09] gnome-open file.pdf.gz would work too I suppose [08:09] bye logmein [08:09] jrib: thx for showing me this other channel [08:09] ah cool [08:09] jrib: So everything knows how to unzip .gz? [08:09] no [08:09] omg ubotu here too, stalker! === logmein hides [08:09] I mean how does evinve know what to do with a .gz? [08:10] lol! [08:11] hold on I have to go call my representatives... 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