[07:31] <logmein> hello
[07:31] <jrib> logmein: hello
[07:31] <omegacenti> Hey :)
[07:31] <logmein> hi
[07:31] <jrib> logmein: did you do 'sudo fdisk -l' to find your drive?
[07:32] <logmein> yep /dev/hdb like how I guessed
[07:32] <jrib> alright, is it formatted?
[07:33] <logmein> umm it says above it "Partition table entries are not in disk order"
[07:33] <jrib> hmm not sure what that is.  Is there any data on it you need to get at?
[07:33] <logmein> I'm assuming its blank since it shows nothing
[07:33] <logmein> nope
[07:34] <jrib> logmein: alright, run gparted and see if it is already formatted how you want it (and format it if it isn't)
[07:34] <logmein> ok I wrote an ext3 partition on it now
[07:34] <jrib> ok
[07:34] <logmein> now do I just mount it and check it?
[07:34] <jrib> first, make a mount point:  sudo mkdir /media/hdb
[07:34] <jrib> yeah, you know how to do this?
[07:34] <logmein> was hoping there might be way to get it to show up in file manager and other places
[07:35] <jrib> it will once you mount it
[07:35] <logmein> ok
[07:35] <logmein> so I mount it in /media ok
[07:35] <jrib> create a directory in /media called "hdb" and then mount it to /media/hdb
[07:36] <jrib> so your fstab line would look something like:
[07:37] <jrib> /dev/hdb    /media/hdb    vfat    defaults    0    2
[07:37] <logmein> ok
[07:37] <jrib> /dev/hdb    /media/hdb    ext3    defaults    0    2
[07:37] <jrib> oops
[07:38] <omegacenti> What is Fstab?
[07:38] <jrib> !fstab
[07:38] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:38] <omegacenti> thanks :)
[07:38] <logmein> umm odd,,,
[07:38] <ralph> please help me with  my apache - php  install i'm getting the following errors[Sun Jun 10 12:08:44 2007]  [error]  [client 127.0.0.1]  SoftException in Applicati
[07:38] <logmein> it detects it now
[07:38] <ralph> on.cpp:297: UID of script "/var/www/dev.ralph.com/phpinfo.php" is smaller than m
[07:38] <ralph> in_uid
[07:38] <ralph> [Sun Jun 10 12:08:44 2007]  [error]  [client 127.0.0.1]  Premature end of script he
[07:38] <ralph> aders
[07:38] <logmein> ok thanks for help but I have no clue what I just did its showing up though
[07:38] <jrib> ralph: try #ubuntu, but do not paste errors like that.  Instead use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:39] <jrib> logmein: hmm did you get to add the line to fstab or did it just show up on its own?
[07:39] <logmein> well I fdisked it as 83 then it did a sync and opened up the folder in thunar
[07:40] <jrib> ah ok
[07:40] <logmein> I then deleted the old linux system on it as root and have a blank hard drive here
[07:40] <logmein> I was just troubled by the fact I couldn't mount it
[07:40] <logmein> and how come fdisk didn't erase that old stuff on it?
[07:40] <jrib> well you may still want to set it up in fstab to make it mount where you want it to
[07:41] <omegacenti> LOL cool! Can you mount something thats not a media? Like a text file or a sound card?
[07:41] <logmein> omegacenti: umm its called a text editor...
[07:41] <jrib> you mount file systems omegacenti
[07:41] <omegacenti> logmein: Im talking about weird mounts.
[07:42] <omegacenti> jrib: so I could format my usb stick to ext3 and then mount it as /dev/usbstick
[07:42] <jrib> yes if you want to
[07:42] <logmein> omegacenti are you talking about mounting iso files?
[07:42] <logmein> omegacenti like images of media?
[07:42] <omegacenti> logmein: that too ^_^
[07:42] <omegacenti> holy crap linux is powerful.
[07:42] <omegacenti> Why.. oh why is Microsoft dominant.
[07:42] <jrib> well you can mount iso's in windows too...
[07:43] <logmein> dominant?.. last I checked they used linux for msn servers..
[07:43] <omegacenti> jrib: little hard unless alcohol 120 or Dameon tools
[07:43] <jrib> true
[07:43] <omegacenti> I know windows.. I don't knkow linux :)
[07:43] <jrib> !iso
[07:43] <omegacenti> logmein: retail consumer. not server/industrial :p
[07:43] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:44] <omegacenti> frickin... amazing.
[07:44] <jrib> logmein: I'm not sure why the data wasn't wiped, but is it working ok now?
[07:44] <omegacenti> now if only you could mount a file in grub and run it off that.
[07:44] <omegacenti> Or can you...
[07:44] <logmein> jrib: yeah its fine
[07:44] <jrib> great
[07:45] <omegacenti> jrib: Best op around :)
[07:45] <logmein> jrib: I just hope it still doesn't have that swap partition somewhere on there but even if it does I might use it instead of my other hard drive for faster loading
[07:45] <omegacenti> logmein: if Gparted syas it doesn't exist on that hardrive I am not sure but I think it doesn't/
[07:46] <logmein> I didn't use gparted what does that do?
[07:46] <omegacenti> logmein: its a gui gnome partition manager :)
[07:46] <omegacenti> in a terminal type: gksudo gparted
[07:46] <logmein> I have this empty floppy drive that I need to fill, anyone know of something kool I can format one with?
[07:47] <omegacenti> I think gparted will do it.
[07:47] <omegacenti> logmein: Hope you are having as much as I am with linux ^_^
[07:47] <logmein> oh I use xfce not gnome
[07:47] <omegacenti> xfce is built off of gnome
[07:48] <omegacenti> you might still have gparted
[07:48] <omegacenti> ubuntu and derivatives I think come with gparted default.
[07:48] <omegacenti> try it and see if you have it
[07:48] <logmein> nope
[07:48] <omegacenti> doh
[07:48] <omegacenti> apt-get install gparted
[07:48] <omegacenti> good application to have around anyways.
[07:48] <logmein> what for :P
[07:49] <omegacenti> I dunno. Because it is nice! :)
[07:50] <omegacenti> Im going to go read rute.
[07:50] <logmein> I'm thinking I should some how shove all dev files, compilers, movies, pictures etc into my 249G harddrive then make a slimmed down OS on my main 41G
[07:50] <omegacenti> It can be done!
[07:50] <omegacenti> you just have to have the will.
[07:50] <omegacenti> Right now Im working with 63gig
[07:51] <logmein> my whole system is 11G
[07:51] <omegacenti> al the good stuff is on my dekstop harddrive
[07:51] <omegacenti> mines 6.1
[07:51] <logmein> I like never delete an installer or anything
[07:51] <omegacenti> logmein: I don't know how to :)
[07:52] <logmein> rofl
[07:52] <omegacenti> right now all I have is my pretty colors and my book of Rute
[07:53] <logmein> rute?
[07:53] <omegacenti> !rute
[07:53] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[07:53] <omegacenti> that last one
[07:53] <omegacenti> AMAZING read on all things linux
[07:54] <logmein> umm ok
[07:54] <omegacenti> thing has so far taught me how to do things I didn't know possible
[07:54] <logmein> I just read the junk at www.linux.org
[07:54] <omegacenti> lol
[07:54] <omegacenti> logmein: is the end all reference. its similar to dummies guide
[07:54] <logmein> and some fedora handbook I found at bookstore, got it discounted
[07:54] <omegacenti> ^_^ should have picked up a debian one though... of course I don't know what fedora is but...
[07:55] <logmein> nah debian sucks, I go ubuntu any day
[07:55] <omegacenti> logmein: ubuntu is debian based.
[07:56] <logmein> holy crap that book is huge
[07:56] <omegacenti> logmein: seriously. just looked at it right? LOL
[07:56] <logmein> I might check it out
[07:56] <omegacenti> logmein: name something you have done in linux.. I think its there.
[07:56] <omegacenti> Grats on finding the Book of Rute.
[07:57] <logmein> ooh info on dial-in servers just what I've been looking for
[07:57] <omegacenti> oh and a package you can install is rutebook if you want it locally
[07:57] <logmein> thx!
[07:57] <omegacenti> lol grats!
[07:57] <omegacenti> I have no idea what a dial in server is but I guess I will know when I get there :)
[07:58] <omegacenti> Im reading the entire book as a project this summer.
[07:58] <logmein> you ever check out the perl guide they pass about
[07:58] <logmein> its pretty nice for beginner
[07:58] <omegacenti> I don't know what perl is
[07:58] <omegacenti> !perl
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about perl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <omegacenti> neither does ubotu lol
[07:59] <logmein> very nice programming language for text manipulation and webpage design etc
[07:59] <omegacenti> Ah, not much for web page design.
[07:59] <logmein> its really for anything
[07:59] <omegacenti> ah
[07:59] <jrib> heh ubotu doesn't have a perl factoid
[07:59] <jrib> !python
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <jrib> aww
[07:59] <omegacenti> I might check it out when I understand linux more
[07:59] <omegacenti> I felt too sheltered by Windows.
[07:59] <omegacenti> I moved to linux to expand my horizons.
[07:59] <logmein> python sucks just use C++ if your going to bother with all that foo
[08:00] <omegacenti> Also, Double EE doesn't have too terribly an interest in most programming languages (there ARE exceptions to this, I know)
[08:00] <omegacenti> err EE lol
[08:00] <omegacenti> its early
[08:00] <jrib> EEEE
[08:00] <omegacenti> EEEE the GOD of EE
[08:01] <omegacenti> The Electrical Engineering of Electrical engineers.. robot pioneer science.. lol
[08:02] <omegacenti> jrib: I just installed rutebook. is it gui?
[08:02] <jrib> omegacenti: do:  dpkg -L rutebook
[08:02] <omegacenti> jrib: what does that do?
[08:02] <jrib> try it
[08:03] <omegacenti> what the heckk.. a listing of stuff. apparently from the book
[08:03] <omegacenti> so its not gui
[08:03] <jrib> it lists all the files installed
[08:03] <omegacenti> cool!
[08:03] <jrib> it probably just puts a bunch of file in /usr/share/doc/rutebook .  If they're html, open them in your browser
[08:03] <omegacenti> so I can find out what wine installed by doing dpkg -L wine
[08:03] <jrib> yep
[08:04] <omegacenti> jrib: I wonder whats the beginning of the book...
[08:04] <omegacenti> index.html?
[08:04] <jrib> probably
[08:04] <omegacenti> lol 9 megs of book. only book.
[08:05] <omegacenti> roughly similar to 9,000,000 character + formatting?
[08:05] <omegacenti> hmmm. if I want to open something like rute.pdf.gz what do I do, and what is .gz?
[08:06] <jrib> gz means it is compressed by gzip
[08:06] <jrib> like .zip in windows
[08:06] <omegacenti> ah
[08:07] <omegacenti> is gzip pretty strong?
[08:07] <omegacenti> or configurably so?
[08:07] <omegacenti> I'm looking for the strongest compression (lostless) known to man kind. and if its on linux great :)
[08:07] <jrib> it does decent compression, bzip2 is the other common one.  bzip2 is slower but compresses better in general
[08:07] <logmein> it runs fine while being compressed I see no need to do otherwise to my copy
[08:08] <logmein> bzip2 is slooowwwww
[08:08] <jrib> omegacenti: you can do 'evince file.pdf.gz' apparently
[08:08] <omegacenti> savenetradio.org
[08:08] <logmein> and nearly killed my laptop using it before on a huge file :P
[08:08] <omegacenti> evince?
[08:08] <jrib> default pdf viewer in gnome
[08:09] <logmein> well I got to go
[08:09] <logmein> omegacenti see you around
[08:09] <jrib> gnome-open file.pdf.gz  would work too I suppose
[08:09] <jrib> bye logmein
[08:09] <logmein> jrib: thx for showing me this other channel
[08:09] <omegacenti> ah cool
[08:09] <omegacenti> jrib: So everything knows how to unzip .gz?
[08:09] <jrib> no
[08:09] <logmein> omg ubotu here too, stalker!
[08:09] <omegacenti> I mean how does evinve know what to do with a .gz?
[08:10] <omegacenti> lol!
[08:11] <omegacenti> hold on I have to go call my representatives... Someones trying to screw with my internet radio.