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RocitoHi! I wanna setup a way to graphically ssh into a windows-box over the internet from my xubuntu box12:32
Rocitoanyone have relevant xp on the matter?12:33
arooI'd offer help but I've never done it with Windows12:35
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Rocitoah12:38
Rocitocould you point me in the right direction?12:38
Rocitoi'm sure it won't differ too much12:38
Rocitoaroo - a few lines up :)12:39
arooI'm not sure on the differences but I've used x11vnc and vncserver12:40
arooNo clue if they are available on Windows12:40
Rocitothanks aroo , i'll look it up. Know anything about PuTTy?12:43
arooSorry Rocito for not checking this channel often, I know enough to ssh with it12:52
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buliocan I edit partitions with the xubuntu live/install CD?01:11
buliowithout actually installing Xubuntu01:12
RocitoOk thanks aroo, i think i'll use x11vnc to log into windows native 'desktop sharing' VNC server, it should work fine... .. . .. wishful thinking ;)01:13
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odathi everyone01:17
odatanyone know where to find the irc channel for deli linux?01:18
odat/join #ubuntu01:20
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bulio|I'm running an Xubuntu CD, and am trying to access my Desktop of a broken xubuntu install01:51
bulio|I keep trying to access it, but it says permission denied01:51
bulio|is there some way I can get into the desktop so that I can backup my files?01:51
bulio|anyone?01:54
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cliebowbulio|, did you try to mount the hard drive with sudo?02:21
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bulio|cliebow: I'll try in a second02:25
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Wolfcastlegreetings02:36
Wolfcastlewhich is the best way to update xubuntu edgy? with aptitutde or from a cd?02:37
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j1mcWolfcastle: i had a good experience with the GUI upgrade manager.02:39
Wolfcastleyou mean synaptic?02:39
j1mcone thing... before you upgrade, can you make sure that you have the xubuntu-desktop meta-package installed.02:39
j1mcWolfcastle: no, there's a separate application.02:39
j1mcnot synaptic.02:39
j1mclet me see if i can find the name of it.02:39
Wolfcastlethanx02:40
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j1mchere is a link to a good site that should take you through it: http://preview.tinyurl.com/3d4kkg02:41
j1mc(i've put the page in preview mode . . . via tinyurl)02:41
Wolfcastlethank you :-)02:42
j1mcyw.02:43
j1mccheck to make sure you have the xubuntu-desktop package installed.  :)02:43
j1mcand do you have any automatix stuff installed?02:43
j1mcWolfcastle: ping  :)02:43
Wolfcastlenop don't think i have automatix02:44
Wolfcastlexubuntu-desktop yes i have it02:44
j1mcok.  you'd know if you have automatix installed.02:44
j1mcsounds good.  :)  good luck!02:44
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i-like-beansHow can you make it so X doesnt automatically run at start up and can be started and stopped manually?02:58
j1mcyou need to change your run level, i-like-beans03:01
cellofellowi-like-beans: install sysv-rc-conf, open it in a terminal, and make it so that 'gdm' doesn't start on runlevel 2.03:02
i-like-beansj1mc, thanks03:03
i-like-beanscellofellow, thank you also I'll try that now03:03
j1mccellofellow: what about this: http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html03:03
cellofellowkeep it on runlevel 3 so if you want to use it just do 'sudo init 3'03:04
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j1mcediting /etc/inittab03:04
cellofellowI like sysv-rc-conf03:06
j1mchmmm... ok.  i'll have to check that out.03:06
i-like-beansAnd one other thing, what terminal command can I use to list the hardware I have?03:06
GrueTamerlspci03:07
j1mclspci is a good one03:07
GrueTamerlspci is like ls for hardware, i love it :)03:07
j1mccat /proc/meminfo will list your memory informatoin03:07
j1mccat /proc/cpuinfo will list cpu info03:07
i-like-beansthanks again guys03:07
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viddhyper_ch, can i bug ya again about wordpress?03:19
Catoptromancyforgot command for bach to make a .txt log03:19
Catoptromancysomething like > file.txt03:19
j1mcCatoptromancy: well, what are you trying to do?03:20
Catoptromancyactually i got it03:21
j1mcif you enter something like "cat /proc/cpuinfo > cpuinfo.txt" it will pipe the output of that command to that text file03:22
Catoptromancyya03:22
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vidd*wave* cellofellow03:58
cellofellow*wave* everyone03:59
cellofellowparticularly Vidd03:59
viddcellofellow, check my blog:03:59
cellofellowviid.blogspot.com?03:59
viddhttp://vidd.us/wordpress03:59
Eagle_101!ntfs04:08
viddcellofellow, new post updated04:08
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:08
cellofellowvidd ok04:09
Eagle_101!ntfs-3g04:09
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions04:09
cellofellowI have a file with lots of ^M stuff, isn't that DOS format? How do I  convert that?04:13
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bulio|how do I install pidgin on xubuntu?04:28
bulio|only gaim is in the repos04:28
cellofellowgo to vidds download page, he has a deb package of pidgin on their04:30
cellofellowvidd: right? ^^04:30
bulio|ok04:31
cellofellowtry packages.debian.org maybe.04:32
cellofellowUse Sid (Unstable) packages in Ubuntu.04:32
bulio|how do I have Xubuntu automatically mount a drive?04:36
viddcellofellow, yes04:36
viddvidd.us/downloads04:36
cellofellowvidd: nice blog. Needs a theme. ;)04:37
viddyeah04:37
viddlike my site? or have you not looked?04:37
cellofellowbulio|: if it's internal, add it to fstab. If it's removable, set up Volume Management (Apps -> Settings -> File Manager -> Advanced (Tab) -> Configure Volume Management (Hyperlink).04:38
cellofellowvidd: surfing about04:38
bulio|cellofellow: its internal04:38
viddcellofellow, i was refering to the look...there isnt much content yet04:38
cellofellowsurfing around rather04:39
bulio|and finally, how do I change ownership of said drive to a certain user?04:39
viddjester45 set it up for me...04:39
cellofellowbulio|: what /dev file and what FS04:39
bulio|I want my user to have read/write access to it04:39
cellofellowbulio|: all in /etc/fstab04:39
cellofellow!fstab04:39
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions04:39
cellofellowsorry I am not an expert on fstab04:39
bulio|/dev/hda704:39
cellofellowvidd: Virtural :( Virtual04:40
viddwoops...04:40
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cellofellowwhere'd you get the HTML theme?04:40
cellofellowtemplate thing04:40
cellofellowor is it powered by Drupal or something?04:41
viddcome to #viddandme ...jester45 made it...he'd be the one to ask04:41
cellofellowok04:42
cellofellowsweet stuff. 300000 mbit line + no bandwidth limit04:42
cellofellowhow much $$$?04:42
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bulio|and finally, how do I change ownership of a drive to a certain user?04:43
bulio|chown -R /mnt/storage?04:43
cellofellowit's the uid=number option04:43
cellofellowin fstab04:43
cellofellowas much as I know about it04:43
viddcellofellow, the site is not complete...the info is not yet "accuracy proofed"04:43
cellofellowoh, I see, just a bunch of filler text.04:43
viddyes04:45
viddcellofellow, Jester45 said he got the theme from "somewhere on google"04:47
cellofellowok04:47
cellofellowuses divs and CSS for layout, that's good.04:48
Jester45yea i dont remember where04:53
Jester45i searched for 3 column04:53
Jester45err more "3 column html "04:54
cellofellowno worries04:56
viddcellofellow, you want some space?04:57
cellofellowI'm good with what I have now, but if you don't mind I may like some later. :)04:58
viddnp...special "discounted" rates...to all the good ppl that have and will help me out04:59
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bulio|vidd: you only have pidgin 2.0 on your site?05:07
bulio|not 2.0.1?05:07
Jester45yea... i found that one a while ago05:07
viddno...didnt know they updated it ;905:07
vidd:(05:07
bulio|oh :P05:07
Jester45vidd is that the one i found05:08
bulio|it should be fine for now05:08
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viddbulio|, uploading new 2.0.1-1 deb now05:12
viddupload complete05:13
AlexCvidd, uploads interest me05:14
viddbulio|, you done downloading the old one? or did you abort?05:14
viddAlexC, check out my downloads site then..... www.vidd.us/downloads05:15
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AlexChmm US, you say05:18
AlexCi am australian05:18
cellofellowvidd is Pennsylvanian.05:19
viddthat is ok...you have my permission to view my site05:19
vidd=] 05:19
viddcellofellow, .... SHHHH dont tell EVERYONE!!!!!05:19
vidd=] 05:19
cellofellowsorry >:)05:19
BFTDI'm from California05:20
AlexCwhat is mini.iso?05:20
viddBFTD, sorry to hear that05:20
AlexClol05:20
viddAlexC, it is the alt-alt cd....05:20
viddlets you install any of the (*)buntu's from the internewt05:21
BFTDhaha05:21
cellofellowsweet05:21
BFTDI think its a cool state but we should move this topic to #xubuntu-offtopic05:21
magic_ninjai wonder why i got banned from winehq, i havn't said anything in there for over 2 weeks05:23
BFTDmagic_ninja it happens05:24
AlexCmaybe it's your name05:24
magic_ninjamagic_ninja?05:24
AlexCthey night think your a 1337 n1nj405:24
AlexCand be scared of your 1337 skillz05:24
cellofellowhello Napoleon Dynamite.05:25
magic_ninjadoes anyone know who runs the channel05:25
j1mcmagic_ninja: why do you want to know who runs the channel?05:25
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AlexCchanserv obviously05:27
AlexClol05:27
viddj1mc, probably to request to be un banned05:27
test3rhey if you goto boot up the livecd and it just dumps you at "BusyBox built in shell (ash). bin/sh  can't access TTY: job control turned off" , what are you supposed to do at that point?05:27
j1mcvidd: oh, i thought he meant this channel.05:27
test3rwould it b best to try a 3.5" tux version with taht box?05:27
test3ror will Any tux work on it ?  if xubuntu couldt even make a VC, tux might be a bad option05:28
viddj1mc, just a hunch....based on what he was saying05:28
j1mcvidd: i think you're right05:28
j1mctest3r: i'm not sure i understand your problem.05:28
j1mcis "tux" a linux distribution?05:29
test3rwell see i try to boot the live CD of Xubuntu 704 right?05:29
j1mcok05:29
viddtest3r, did you run a check on the cd to make sure it is not corrupt?05:29
test3rand it just dumps you at "BusyBox built in shell (ash). bin/sh  can't access TTY: job control turned off" , what are you supposed to do at that point?05:29
test3rthats pretty much my problem.05:29
test3rits kinda large.05:29
test3r?05:29
test3r=x05:29
j1mccan you describe the computer's specs?05:30
test3rare you a kernel hacker?05:30
test3rit is a POS very old box.05:30
test3ri cant rly05:30
test3ras i cant lspci05:30
test3r...05:30
viddhow much ram?05:30
test3r240.05:30
test3rPC10005:30
test3r(i just put it in.)05:30
viddis that enough to run live?05:31
j1mc240mb?05:31
test3rwel it runs on 12805:31
magic_ninjaj1mc: i would like to know who runs the channel so i can go about getting myself unbanned because i don't believe there is a reason for it05:31
test3rive installed with 12805:31
magic_ninjaits a pain05:31
Jester45a live cd of xubuntu need 128 to run and 192 to install05:31
magic_ninja128 isn't much ram05:31
test3rbut then again ive installed slack from floppy05:31
Jester45at least that what they say05:31
test3rso im not sure it matters05:31
magic_ninjaJester45: not if u strip down the install05:31
j1mcJester45: those are old specs.  it needs more than 192 to run the live cd.05:31
viddtest3r, try turning off acpi05:32
test3ri have ~248 MB of PC100 RAM in it05:32
test3racpi said it needed force05:32
j1mctest3r: i recommend trying out the alternate install cd if you want to install xubuntu on that machine05:32
test3rwould it make a dif if i cut it out altogether from bootline of the livecd?05:32
viddi would try it...05:32
test3ryou think it will be able to bring up a terminal, then?05:33
viddand if that dont work, use the alt or the mini cd05:33
test3rkus it coulnt launch TTY to set itself up.05:33
test3rOK i will look up the argument to boot without acpi05:33
Jester45j1mc, well... i tried feisty on a 120mb live cd so... is the "new" rating pertaining to gusty05:33
viddif the alt cd cant boot...you might have to try an "alternative install method"05:34
test3rwell the box might not even b able to run X all that gr8 neway05:34
test3rand all im gana do is throw snort on it neway05:34
test3r.05:34
test3rshouldi jus minimalslack it?05:35
j1mcJester45: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2007-April/003509.html05:35
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viddif you are comfy with slack...then by all means05:35
j1mcapparently there are some exceptions?  :)05:35
test3ris the rate of boot any higher on old-old-end machines?05:35
test3rvidd?05:35
test3rusing slak install from floppy?  i got it to work on a 16MB ram compaq05:36
test3rbut that doesnt mean its totaly gana boot05:36
test3r..05:36
test3rand its got 98 on it that i could tweek05:36
viddif anything, i would imagine older machines might take longer to boot because cd roms, and other hardware are not designed to run as fast as newer stuff05:37
Jester45linux is more tweakable than 9805:37
cellofellowUniversal Boot CD may help.05:37
test3rtru.  youd think it would b reasonalbe fast too it has PC100 in it- must have a descent AMD it looked like an AMD board when i was upgrading the ram05:38
j1mctest3r: what processor type/speed does this computer have?05:38
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test3rim not even sure lets see if i can boot up win98 still - i had to switch my internal PCI cables to get the CD rom to be bootable-from05:39
test3rl8ers05:39
test3rthe machine is so old- that on systems BIOS chck stuffs - it counts the ram 3 times05:40
test3rBOOT FAILURE05:40
test3rinsert sys disk and press enter05:40
test3rnope05:40
test3rthis box is  jakt05:40
test3ronly one oter hope for it now.05:41
AlexCflash bios05:43
AlexCput linuxbios on it or something05:43
AlexCor update existing bios05:44
test3ryeah no joke there, man. now it says same thing it is only thing on pci cord05:44
test3ri now have a good suspiciion05:45
test3rthisboard can only boot from PCI105:45
test3rit wont boot from 2 it seems.05:45
test3rYes05:46
test3rthisis the case05:46
test3rit is very, very , very, very , LOL05:46
test3rVERY old05:46
test3r=(05:46
test3rim not even sure slack can handl this one.  ima try get HDD on IDE1.master and the CD on IDE1.slave05:47
AlexCget a historic distro, they are always fun05:48
test3ryeah now im thinkin, slak11 migt even b too much 4 it.  can u recommend one, Alex?05:49
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Jester45test3r, how about a cli-only?05:54
test3ryeah cli is fine- thats what slack is when you start from floppy05:56
test3ri cant get these both on a PCI tho05:56
test3rslave is the inside connect yes?05:56
test3rmaster is the farthest05:56
test3rfrom the mobo connect05:56
test3r?05:57
test3rthe physical connect head if you are doing cableselect05:58
test3ri think i see the prob now the HDD is jumpered longways i ned to maek it master05:59
test3rright dow the middle mas w/slave05:59
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test3rbtw its Pentium2 , 350Mhrz06:03
test3rit just now started up as HDD master CD slave06:03
test3rfor the first time in its existance.06:03
AlexCi have one of those06:06
AlexCbut i took out the ram06:06
AlexCand graphics06:06
AlexCso it doesn't run that well06:06
test3rok i got 256(248)MB RAM,  and the chipset is an intel i440BX it claims06:10
test3rrunning memtest. i just got "could not find kernel: H" from the UBUNTU disk06:10
AlexCmine is an IBM personal computer 300gl06:11
test3rsometimes i have luck with one not the other so i try ubuntu too06:11
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AlexCmine doesn't run live cds from 6.10 onwards06:11
test3rbut i know that disk is fine.  this computer is quite picky, indeed.06:11
test3roh yeah?  hmmmmm maybe i should try 606 then?06:11
AlexCit worked for me06:12
AlexCthat computer isn't running anymore though06:12
AlexCi got an AMD 1.3GHZ06:12
AlexCnow06:12
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test3raw crud- it bit the big circuit in the sky?06:12
AlexChuh?06:13
test3ri just had an NEC monitor, a MultiSync , that I had for years, burn out on me06:13
test3rused it for 10 yrs or more i bet.06:13
AlexClol06:13
AlexCi had an IBM monitor, it caught alight06:13
test3rlike , on Fire?06:14
test3rchit! thats one of my biggest fears because Im always working with these old computers in, here, in my basement06:15
test3ri always make sure i got a drink close by06:15
test3randnot spirits lol06:15
Jester45:)06:17
test3r"here fire,have some 80 proof liquer"06:18
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Jester45well it *might* save some of the computer if you could get some water quickly after06:20
jrsimsI just ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and restarted. but everything looks the same?06:20
jrsimsI had edgy06:20
Jester45and thats if the water doesnt break it also because the liquor wouldnt instaly burn... so it might give you a second but then its a bigger fire after that06:21
test3rhahahaha, yeah id say liquor would be the bad choice to put out a computer fire with06:21
test3rmy objective with throwing my drink at it is just to keep anything Else from burning06:22
test3rlike, the house06:22
test3ru can buy a new puter a LOT cheaper06:22
jrsimshey, any xubuntu users here?06:23
Jester45idk some computer are pricey and some house are cheap :)06:23
jrsimsI just ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and restarted. but everything looks the same?06:23
test3rthere miht be some of them lurking about, jrsims06:23
test3r;)06:23
Jester45jrsims, did you edit your sources.list and apt-get update06:23
PumpernickelImagine that... Xubuntu users in #xubuntu.06:23
jrsimsah... no06:23
test3r=O  !!!!! Wait ? Where am I ?06:23
test3r=D06:24
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jrsimsso the steps to upgrade from edgy to feisty are???06:24
test3ri usedthe cd06:24
Jester45edit /etc/sources/.list and change your current version to feisty or edgy then apt-get update06:24
Jester45then you can dist-upgrade06:24
jrsimsweird. So what was apt doing when I ran dist-upgrade without changing sources?06:25
Jester45yea change all the edgy words in the sources.list to feisty then update and youll be ready06:25
Jester45trying to get the lasted edgy stuff06:25
jrsimsso really, dist-upgrade doesn't really come in to play anywhere?06:25
Jester45dist-upgrade is just a smarter way of upgrade06:26
jrsimshow is it different?06:26
jrsimsand should I always use that then?06:26
Jester45it does if you changinf versions or kernel06:26
PumpernickelYou can also use the update-manager.  It's actually recommended over apt-get now - seems it has better conflict and dependency tracking.06:26
jrsimsok, well i will use update-manager06:27
test3rif updatemanager doesnt work too06:27
Jester45jrsims, the only time you need to use it is when apt- says some some upgrades are held back06:27
test3ryou can always boot recovery06:27
test3rand try cli options06:27
PumpernickelIt also shouldn't crash, which was an issue around Dapper->Edgy.06:27
test3rsuch as apt-get06:27
jrsimsok06:27
jrsimslooks like I need to quit everything to run this. so thanks for the help, and see ya later!06:28
test3rupdate-manager? heck the screensaver goes with the updates going in here06:28
test3rid b tempted to actually run something else.06:29
Jester45:)06:29
test3r;p06:29
Jester45i do untill it starts installing06:29
Jester45but when its downloading i do things06:29
Jester45but course now with my l33t skills i have seprate partitions and just upgrade with cd + dcript06:30
test3ryeah you shouldnt have the pak up its actualy updating by install at the sam time. just downloading pax obviously isnt changing anything06:30
Jester45script*06:30
test3rwhy dont u jus get ur pax out of ur /var/apt/cache ?06:31
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Jester45??? using a script is better because you get the newest stuff06:32
test3rOK im confused- are you making a test install on the other partition? what IS the point of the other partition? and how is that dif than the live cd? and why is new better than stable?06:33
Jester45its simple first, edit sources.list to include all wanted repos second apt-get update06:33
Jester45third, remove unwanted things. forth install wanted things. and last update06:34
Jester45new is better because you get new stuff. at lease for me06:34
Jester45and... i use the alt cd because its simpler and faster06:35
test3rit could b Faster.06:35
test3rif i had a number sequence i could put at boot prompt06:35
Jester45and the point is that i can keep many configs and /home stuff but yet can have a fresh install06:35
Jester45no im saying that i dont upgrade to new versions06:36
Jester45i use a cd to install06:36
test3roicu have your /home and other app specific dirs on the other partition06:36
test3rand the first is the os06:36
test3ryeah i was thinking about doing that, then i went with the complete other dist option on this notebook.06:37
Jester45but i use a 2nd partition to store stuff that i dont want to format so that after the upgrade its like i have a fresh system but with my configs still there06:37
test3rso it has XP, xubuntu, and nubuntu on it's HDD.06:37
Jester45nubuntu ?06:37
test3ryes - it's for security auditing of networks.06:38
Jester45net ubuntu ?06:38
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test3rithink its short for network buntu yes06:38
test3ruses flux06:38
test3ri had to hak grub manually and pass it a UUID for it to start up06:39
test3rAfter managing to get it onto the hdd06:39
test3rbecause the installer is, well, non-existant.06:39
Jester45this is a stupid question probley but gusty has a live cd right? i just figured i would after before searching for it06:42
test3rbut thats the way it should be honestly. if you cant get that up and going, you shouldnt be using the tools On it probably06:42
test3rdunno06:43
test3rdo you mean Gutsy?06:49
test3rgutsy gibbon>?06:49
test3ri tested with 610 and my gForce 2 was broke with that one i still dont know why they must have figured it out though06:50
Jester45yea06:50
test3rwe chkt and chkt in here06:50
test3r=)06:51
test3rhark!@ MEMTEST86 is almost complete06:52
test3rill test 606 like someone was saying06:52
test3ri was thinking about hark then i thought UHARC then i thought of HVAC. - u know - forthelongest time, because of doom, i thought HVAC were computers06:53
test3rno idea why. kus it always says UHARC on the cases dont it?06:54
test3rwhere the Heck did i get that from? honestly.06:54
Jester45!info quota06:54
ubotuquota: implementation of the disk quota system. In component main, is optional. Version 3.14-6 (feisty), package size 414 kB, installed size 1264 kB06:54
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test3rone bite?  ;p06:55
test3ri took yours ahd his bites today, man whooooaaaa06:56
test3rtwo trashed hotdogs, two helpings beans06:56
test3rand these cheesey hash brown potatoes homemade06:56
test3roooooooooo06:56
test3r=x06:56
test3rmy family can throw a party.06:57
test3rit was my lil cousins 16th.06:59
test3rsurprise party actualy Worked, heh06:59
test3rok i got 606 ubuntu desk to try first, then i got a 606 alt Xu, too07:01
test3rwoot loading kernel07:02
test3rthats a nice Step Up from not finding it at all.07:03
test3ri wonder what the big difference is between 606 and 704 that would cause it not to work07:04
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Jester45umm07:08
Jester45xfce whent to a newer major version version07:08
test3ryeah, that is true. but the cd couldnt even load the kernel07:09
test3rit didnt even get to a vid driver07:09
Jester45new kernels also07:09
test3roo?    =/   huh!  well crud, so now the old machines have to use the older versions, huh?07:10
Jester45edgy was 6.17 and now its 6.2007:10
test3roh man07:11
test3ru should see the res07:11
test3rLOL the icon i the size of y fist07:11
test3rum it might be a bad idea putting this on here.07:11
test3rit looks like crap inside X   =(07:11
test3rmaybe its not using the intel driver tho. but i didnt see an i400 driver07:12
test3rwell acording to the xorg.conf that is in /filesystem of the livecd, it is using the i740 driver07:14
test3rtheother chipset must b what was on the mobo itself07:15
test3r640x480@60hrz   =(((  i cant even see the "next" btn on the installer07:19
test3rbollox07:19
Jester45why dont you use the alternative installer? its much faster07:22
test3ryeah now im trying that actually 606 xubuntu07:25
test3rcan i resize fat32 with that?07:25
test3rwith the manual partition option?07:26
Jester45should07:26
test3ror did it even exist on 606?07:26
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Jester45it did07:26
test3rk07:26
Jester45i love aXXo07:26
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Chikubuhello pplz07:28
Jester45hi07:28
Chikubuim getting fatal error near end of install, unable to install GRUB in (hd0) - - executing 'grub-install (hdo)' failed.07:29
Chikubusystem wont boot after this, tried reinstall from live cd, same error07:29
test3rdo you have anoter linux installed already?07:30
Chikubuno07:30
Jester45o yea... can anyone here tell me how to test bandwidth from the cli.... i tried wget but im not sure where i should download to get full speed07:30
Chikububut win98 is07:30
test3rit Should b find with win98 no problems at all07:31
Chikubuhow can i launch grub manualy, were does it park07:31
Jester45well... it seems like you didnt install it07:32
Chikubuis it on cd07:32
Jester45because it failed to execute the install07:32
test3rthe directory   /var/cache/apt   is where it might be right after it has just tried to install07:33
test3rif you can get to root07:33
test3rand cp that pak into ur hdd07:33
test3rthen root into your install07:33
test3ru can get it on ^ ^07:33
test3rput it in the same spot07:34
test3rthen when you run for it to install that pack, it will get it off there07:34
Chikubuits not in /apt07:34
test3roh wait the connect isnt the prob- my bad, b07:34
test3rnot right now07:34
test3rimmediately after it has been installed / tried to install07:34
test3rnot so sure about the Tried part, there07:35
Chikubuwhich was just then07:35
test3rbut its a good chance07:35
test3rwhy dont you just get the pack while running thelive cd07:36
test3ris there a way to set it up from there, or get it....,,, hmmmm07:36
PumpernickelYou can run grub-install from the cd.  If it doesn't install, it should at least give a useful error.07:36
test3r, heh, see i knew it was something i wasnt thinking about correctly07:37
test3rand pumpernickel, it will effect the HDD then, and not just the ram, at that point?07:38
Chikubuok let me try off the cd07:38
test3rdo you have to pass it anything before?07:38
Chikubuhelp system needs some work dead links everywhere07:39
PumpernickelBefore, no, just run it.  It will affect the HDD, once you confirm what you want done.07:40
Chikubucan u use Thunar to mount a cd07:41
Chikubudoes live cd mount cd as /mnt/cdrom ?07:48
test3ryeah- go in and do "ls"07:48
test3rer not itself07:49
test3rthats once its going07:49
test3rim not even sure if this install is worth saving thats on this computer im working on07:50
Chikubudoh its just cdrom, i was making it complicated07:51
test3r~4g win98 install...   it has some Gator thing on the TASKbar07:51
test3rblelch.  and like 83MB of junk on root07:51
test3rrecovered docs07:51
test3ri prob shouldnt even have the thing connected to my net  =907:51
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test3ravg 7.5 just upgraded the version 6 that was on this win98 box in ~2min and a reboot.08:05
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zoidberghey guys08:36
zoidberghow can you make a perl script run at login?08:36
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logmeinhow things going, anyone need anything?08:37
zoidberglogmein, i need something08:37
zoidberghow do i run a script on login08:37
zoidberg?08:37
logmeinunder menu >> settings >> auto started applications08:38
logmeinzoidberg: trying to get beryl up or such?08:38
zoidbergno this lil perl script that starts the YAB adesklet on startup08:39
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unikonhey have any of you ever had a problem with trying to log in to Xubuntu where you put in the user id and password yet it takes you back to the login screen09:01
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Kjellvizon a 20gb hdd install, 2gb for swap and the rest ext3, does that sound bout ok ?09:31
Catoptromancywhy would you need 2gb for swap09:32
Kjellvizdunno, its what pclinuxos set up as swap on a previous install09:32
Kjellviz2,8gb to be exact09:32
Catoptromancyhmm09:33
Catoptromancywell i guess it couldnt hurt09:33
Catoptromancyprobably better09:33
logmeinhow much ram you got?09:37
logmeinnot so much swap that's a bit too much09:38
logmeinshouldn't ever need more than about one gig of swap09:38
Kjellvizi think it has 256mb09:39
logmeinand that's only so you can do advanced suspension and hibernation features09:39
Kjellvizmight even be 12809:39
logmeinfor regular desktop use x2 the ram it has but stop at 1gig09:39
Kjellvizok09:39
logmeinso 256 use 512 swap09:39
Kjellvizi made 2gb now :P09:39
logmeinand it won't be exact because it sizes it so you get max performance out of hard drive space for the file system type09:39
Kjellvizbut i guess it doesent hurt09:39
Kjellvizits not like i need the space for something else09:40
logmeinI'm using so far 11G and that's with a shitload of installer files, movies, pictures etc09:41
logmeinI also tend to use dev files for compiling a lot09:41
Kjellvizthis comp will be used for surfing only09:41
logmeinKjellviz: you can do a lot of stuff with 256mb09:41
Kjellvizye, but it will be used for surfing only ^^09:42
logmeinheh09:42
Kjellvizits a old laptop that the family uses around the house for surfing09:42
Kjellviznothing else09:42
Kjellvizim most curious bout how my wlan will be working09:43
Pumpernickelunikon: What video card does that system have?09:43
logmeinkjellviz: this guide might be helpful for you http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/830809:43
logmeinkjellviz: lot of firefox things and hardrive adjustment tweaks09:43
unikonpumpenickel the vid card hasnt been an issue09:44
logmeinKjellviz: what does lspci say about your wireless interface?09:44
unikon its an internal vid09:44
Pumpernickelunikon: What maker?09:45
Kjellvizlogmein: dunno im still struggling with install (but i got it working in pclinuxos using ndiswrapper)09:45
Pumpernickel(I'm just thinking of bug 68291.)09:45
ubotuLaunchpad bug 68291 in xserver-xorg-video-tdfx "GDM Restarts after Desktop loads while using tdfx driver" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6829109:45
Kjellvizthe partitioner has problems with my hdd for some reason09:45
logmeinKjellviz: well grab ndiswrapper from http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/ and compile it, the one in repository is ancient09:46
logmeinthey also have a list of cards and what driver to use so grab the windows one and install it with wine which again might want to go to winehq to get: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/ubuntu/feisty/wine_0.9.38~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1_i386.deb09:47
Kjellvizaha thanks!09:47
Kjellvizdoes the newer version have graphical interface ?09:48
Kjellvizcos it did in pclinuxos09:48
logmeinyou don't need a graphical interface if it takes only 3 commands to get going lmao09:48
Kjellvizye i know09:48
Kjellvizbut ive had SO much troubles getting it to work before09:48
Kjellvizsince im linux illiterate09:48
Kjellviz:P09:49
logmeinjust remember -i -m modprobe restart09:49
logmeinthen fiddle with the wireless switch09:49
Kjellvizthis graphical thingy in pclos was a breeze, it asked for my win driver, installed it and boom i was online09:49
Kjellvizdaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn, the installer partitioner in fiesty sux09:51
Kjellvizargh09:51
PumpernickelWhat's the problem?09:51
Kjellvizit keeps giving me errors that it cant mount a partition09:52
Kjellvizand if there has been a previous installation of linux on the hdd09:52
Kjellvizusing the "use the whole hdd" will give me a grub error when booted after install09:52
PumpernickelGrub can be reinstalled and reconfigured during the Feisty install - that shouldn't be an issue.09:53
PumpernickelAs for mounting the partitions, you're probably facing bug 107259.09:54
ubotuLaunchpad bug 107259 in ubiquity "Xubuntu partitioning can fail because ubiquity does not prevent thunar from automounting new partitions" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10725909:54
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Kjellvizits the grub that is installed during feisty install that gives the error09:54
PumpernickelWhat's the error message?09:55
Kjellvizive had error 15 and error 2409:56
Kjellviznow the partitioner gave me error "failed creating ext3 filesystem on partition 1 on SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda)09:58
Kjellvizfreely translated from swedish though09:58
Kjellvizand its not a scsi disk, its a laptop09:58
PumpernickelGrub error 24 isn't good.09:59
Pumpernickelhttp://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Stage2-errors09:59
Kjellvizyep know09:59
Kjellviza reinstalled fixed it though =\09:59
logmeinah yeah I had same problem since I improperly installed over windows ntfs partition10:00
logmeinthink it thought I was trying to dual boot or something10:00
Kjellvizye10:00
Kjellvizonly this was when pclinuxos was installed previously10:01
Kjellviznot windwos10:01
Kjellvizbut same thing10:01
logmeinjust do it manually, specify which is / directory, tell it format all them, and set it to 512 swap :)10:07
Kjellvizye that failed as well10:08
Kjellvizit could not create ext3 on the partition i chose10:09
Kjellvizfor some fubar reason10:09
Kjellvizbtw, i cant set it to format swap partition, but thats normal innit ?10:12
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cybaneAnyone ever used an SD card with the TI7xx1 cardreader with xubuntu?10:14
Kjellvizfinally, the installer is getting on :)10:17
logmeincybane: most SD card readers are hard to get working on linux but I have one in my lappy never got working, do you know where I could check to see if its possible to use it for something?10:18
Catoptromancyall my card readers work10:19
CatoptromancyI dont know what kind it is10:20
Catoptromancy8 in 110:20
highvoltagemine works on laptop though10:20
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logmeinI bought one of those dv9000t from hp10:25
logmeinso far its been fine, just that damn sd card reader10:25
logmeinI was hoping to get it working since my mother has this old digital camera that gtkcam can't get working because of its proprietary usb interface10:26
Kjellvizvmware maybe ?10:27
Kjellvizfor the cam i mean10:30
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Kjellvizanyone got any idea why firefox refuses to "remember my password (read: accept the cookie) from hotmail when i choose "keep my name and password" as a login option ?10:32
Kjellvizive got accept all cookies on10:32
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cybanelogmein: I check teh intarwebs10:33
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logmeinKjellviz: hmm do you have a master password perhaps?10:37
Kjellvizlogmein: its not the firefox option im trying to use10:38
logmeinKjellviz: oh don't let cookies handle your logins let firefox do it10:38
Kjellvizlogmein: when logging in, i can choose to stay logged in10:38
Kjellvizbut i wish to let cookies do it10:38
Kjellviz^^10:38
logmeinKjellviz: what for? you just gonna get hacked by weird flash java exploits10:39
Kjellvizi want to be autologged in when i open the link10:39
Kjellvizsure, im not to worried about that10:39
Kjellvizif they wanna hack they are welcome to steal my spam ><10:39
logmeinKjellviz: hmm well if firefox can remember the login information there might be a way to get it to send extra option of enter button10:40
logmeinKjellviz: nah that's how you get spam :P10:40
Kjellvizfirefox does remember it (after using a little hack)10:40
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Kjellvizlogmein: allrite, got xubuntu installed on the laptop now10:45
Kjellviznow begins the fun part10:46
Kjellvizgetting wireless up n running =(10:46
logmeinwhat card is it though10:46
Kjellvizlinksys10:46
logmeinah crap10:46
Kjellvizbut as sais10:46
Kjellvizsaid*10:46
logmeinI had bad run in with linksys wireless card when I was first getting into linux10:47
Kjellvizi got it working using ndiswrapper and win driver in pclos10:47
logmeinok but what does lspci report about it?10:47
Kjellvizbroadcom bcm431810:48
logmeincan you give me the exact line output?10:48
Kjellvizok sec10:48
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kjellvi107:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)10:50
logmeinooh interesting10:50
Kjellvizthats it10:50
Kjellvizreally ?10:50
Kjellviz^^10:50
logmeinhttp://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,list_b/ read the second listing 2.10:51
Kjellvizye10:51
logmeinI'd still suggest grabbing latest ndiswrapper even though that tester didn't, lot of fixes on performance10:51
Kjellvizwell i was just about to10:52
Kjellvizbut compiling aint exactly my cup of tea ><10:52
Kjellvizwas hoping there was a .deb for it hehe10:53
logmeinoh trust me compiling it is the easy way lol10:53
Kjellvizit will be when i understand the concept of it10:53
logmeinI must have screwed up in every way imaginable then I got wireless going on my brothers laptop in under a minute10:53
Kjellvizbout now im just copy/pasting commands10:53
logmeinjust ./configure make sudo su make install10:54
Kjellvizsudo su ?10:54
logmeinread the install or readme text file though just to make sure10:54
logmeinyeah gives you root prompt10:54
Kjellvizok10:54
logmeininstead of typing sudo for dozen of commands10:55
logmeinmost beginners don't know what requires root privs so report errors about it that is why most refer to a command as sudo inclined10:55
Kjellvizthat last sentence was greek to me ><10:56
Kjellvizohhh off to a good start10:56
Kjellvizerrormessage during unpacking the tar.bz10:56
Kjellvizjust my kind of luck10:57
logmeinKjellviz: right click it and choose extract here10:57
logmeinthere are millions of text commands to uncompress something so I never bother10:57
logmeinoh and for starts you might want zip, cabextract, rar, 7z compression formulas added10:58
logmeinso you don't have to figure out why something won't extract later on10:58
Kjellvizok ?10:58
Kjellvizis it needed for this install ?10:59
logmeinmost likely not11:00
logmeinyeah those files aren't zipped11:00
Kjellvizok then its not needed =P11:00
logmeinsuit yourself11:00
Kjellvizwhen i get online11:01
Kjellvizim done11:01
Kjellvizthats all i need on this comp11:01
logmeinokie dokie then11:01
logmeinKjellviz: this looks pretty kool for web browsing https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/452111:02
Kjellvizblah pastebin is fubar, got a alternative ?11:03
logmeinhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11:04
logmeinubuntu's private finest pastebin at your disposal :P11:04
kjellvi1=D11:04
kjellvi1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24969/11:05
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kjellvi1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24972/11:27
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allewederi having a weard problem with xubuntu, when i open a terminal screen i get logout.11:35
allewedercommand line is a basic ellement i would like to use.11:36
graziealleweder: Is that launching from the menu? Have you tried launching Terminal from alt+f2? Can you get a virtual console, ctrl+alt+f1?11:42
allewedermmmm i just found out that if i lok at the add software, there is not the therminal installed.11:44
allewederlooks like defautl there is not a terminal in the menu.11:44
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allewedermmm i got kicked off again grazie.11:46
allewederso alt f2 is not realy working. :-)11:46
grazie:(11:47
allewederi am now working on the add/remove applications.11:47
graziectrl+alt+f1?11:47
allewederand there i can add the terminal. ( very weard that it is not installed default).11:47
TheSheepalleweder: there was a bug in xubuntu terminal that make it kill X on some intel cards11:49
allewederok thanks TheSheep. in my system there is indeed a intel video card.11:50
allewederi am using a old Dell GX150 system to make a small home server.11:50
allewederhttp://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/06/05/build_your_own_server/111:51
logmeinTheSheep: can you show me more of that bug? my friend was going to try out xubuntu and he uses an intel card11:51
allewederTHis was the artical that did give some inspiration to me.11:51
graziealleweder: been trying to search launchpad for quite a while, but it looks like it's on a go slow :(11:52
allewedersorry grazie i do not get your remark,11:54
allewederdo you mean that you do have a problem installing ?.11:54
allewederctrl+alt+f1 is working ok11:56
TheSheeplogmein: bug #11412411:57
ubotuLaunchpad bug 114124 in xfce4-terminal "Xubuntu 7.04 xserver crashes when launching terminal" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11412411:57
logmeinTheSheep: alrighty thx11:57
allewederthanks, this is indeed the bug i have.12:01
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allewederok this sound maybe as a stupid question, but how do i run the gnome2 terminal once i have it installed ?.12:47
TheSheepalleweder: gnome-terminal12:48
allewederbrb12:48
logmeinxub xub!01:00
logmein:)01:00
Kjellvizi want xubuntu to automatically log on to a default user on boot, where can i find the settings for that ?01:05
TheSheepKjellviz: system->login window settings01:06
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KjellvizTheSheep: cannot find that, but ive installed swedish language (but cant see anything that resembles that in swedish)01:08
Kjellvizforget, got it sorted01:18
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logmeinI applied this theme to xubuntu but now webpages look like crap http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2007061003483qd4.png how do I fix that?01:51
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logmeinwell bye peoples I gotta go kick some ass on tremulous :)02:21
logmeinbut before I go...02:21
logmeinxub xub! (^_^) 'O02:21
Kjellvizwhats the "gedit" command in xubuntu ?02:26
hyper_chKjellviz: ???02:27
hyper_chKjellviz: what is the gedit command?02:27
Kjellvizcommand for graphically editing a file02:27
Kjellvizits gedit in ubuntu02:27
Kjellvizgnome edit i guess02:27
Kjellvizforget i remember now, its mousepad02:28
hyper_chwhat do you need that from the command line?02:29
Kjellvizi needed to edit xorg.conf02:29
Kjellvizand fastest way is just opening it from terminal yes02:29
hyper_chnano xorg.conf02:31
hyper_chthat's faster then mousepad or gedit02:31
Kjellvizhow come thats faster ?02:32
hyper_chtakes less time to open nano than gedit or mousepad02:32
Kjellvizok02:33
Kjellvizthanks for the tip02:35
hyper_chor if you can handle:   vi02:36
Kjellviznah had issues with vi02:37
Kjellviz:P02:37
hyper_chvi is also too complicated for my simple mind02:38
hyper_chbut it's supposed to be one of the most powerful and efficient editors02:38
Kjellvizlol02:39
Kjellvizim trying to download internet explorer02:39
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Kjellvizand it asks me to validate my os version02:40
Kjellvizroflol02:40
hyper_chiiiieeeks02:40
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logmeinmy xfce theme still bugging out my browser, any ideas as to how to make firefox load different buttons and search bars?04:52
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logmeinaubade: hi05:03
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Hekoshi, did a fresh install, the panel wont show up05:30
Hekoslive cd also without panel05:30
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vidd_laptopHekos, which panel does not show up?05:34
Hekosno panel05:36
Hekosxfce4-panel05:36
Hekoshave to run it manualy every boot05:36
vidd_laptopherm05:45
vidd_laptopthen it would appear that it is just not set to auto-load....05:45
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Hekosdownloaded the latest iso today05:46
TheSheepHekos: clear the ~/.cache/sessions05:47
vidd_laptopdid you disable the "Save Session for Future Logins" or logout using a method other then the "Quit" app?05:47
vidd_laptopTheSheep, your too fast for me05:47
vidd_laptop=] 05:47
TheSheepvidd_laptop: I just got home05:48
Hekoswell, seems wierd that it does the same on live cd05:48
vidd_laptopyeah...one glance, and BANG instant answer [most likely the correct one] !05:48
TheSheepvidd_laptop: for every release, there is like 4 or 5 most common problems with ready solutions05:49
vidd_laptopHekos, there was probably some issue with the live cd loading the autoload of the panel...and that was passed on when you installed05:49
Hekosok05:50
TheSheepnice, googleearth in the repos :)05:50
vidd_laptopTheSheep, in gutsy?05:51
vidd_laptopcuzz i dont see it in fiesty05:52
TheSheepvidd_laptop: yes05:52
TheSheepvidd_laptop: and user-mode-linux05:52
vidd_laptopuser-mode?05:52
TheSheepvidd_laptop: linux kernel that runs in user mode, like normal application05:53
vidd_laptopinteresting....user-mode-linux-doc is in fiesty repo, but not the app!05:54
vidd_laptopwhat kernel is gutsy using?05:54
HekosTheSheep, works, ty =)05:55
TheSheepvidd_laptop: so far 2.6.2205:55
vidd_laptoppoint 02 better then fiesty05:58
=== vidd_laptop wonders why they dont keep the kernel up to date on the stable relieases
TheSheepvidd_laptop: because they'd have to test everything from start06:00
TheSheepvidd_laptop: and that would basically be a new release06:00
vidd_laptopreally?06:00
vidd_laptopjust for a kernel upgrade?06:00
TheSheepvidd_laptop: kernel+modules+init scripts+udev06:00
vidd_laptopah....basically "everything the distro is built on"06:01
TheSheepvidd_laptop: plus a bunch of things depending on the modules, like graphics drivers for X, scanners, printers, tablets06:01
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vidd_laptophave you noticed that the live cd almost always has more issues then the alt?06:02
vidd_laptopand is that because more ppl use it, or because there are more things that CAN go wrong?06:03
TheSheepvidd_laptop: that's because it has less testers -- most users just upgrade their existing installations06:03
vidd_laptophrm....06:03
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vidd_laptopi dont like the look&feel of the live...plus the overhead is annoying06:04
TheSheepyeah, a really light livecd would be nice06:08
=== vidd_laptop would like a "live CLI" disk
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cheeseboyhi06:12
vidd_laptopwelcome cheeseboy06:13
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cheeseboycan anyone tell me if my linksys wpc300n wireless card will work in xubuntu before i install?06:13
vidd_laptopbefore you install....hard to tell....06:13
vidd_laptopdo you have the live cd?06:13
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cheeseboyno i dont want to waste my only cd06:14
cheeseboyi know it wont work right away06:14
vidd_laptopdo you know what kind of chipset it uses?06:14
vidd_laptopdoes it use the bcm43xx chipset?06:14
cheeseboyis there any way to check on windows?06:14
vidd_laptopnot that im awareof06:15
vidd_laptoplet me do some checking for you.....06:15
cheeseboykk thnx06:15
TheSheepthere is a list of supported hardware on the wiki, I think, and on the forum06:16
cheeseboyi 99% sure it wont work right away06:16
vidd_laptopcheeseboy, if worse comes to worse.. you can always us ndiswrapper06:17
vidd_laptop*use06:17
vidd_laptopyou have a wired network card right?06:17
cheeseboywireless06:17
cheeseboyno ethernet port06:17
vidd_laptop=/06:17
cheeseboyso i need the deb to put on my pendrive06:18
vidd_laptopthen it will be difficult....but NOT impossible06:18
vidd_laptopwe can help get you through it once everything is installed06:18
cheeseboyi have another pc so can u walk me through it?06:18
vidd_laptopabsolutely....06:19
cheeseboykk thnx06:19
vidd_laptopi recomend you use the alt cd rather then the live cd for installing06:19
cheeseboywhere i get that?06:19
vidd_laptopsame page you get the live...just scroll down06:20
cheeseboyok06:21
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cheeseboygonna be about 1/ hr to dl06:22
cheeseboy1/2*06:22
vidd_laptopthats ok...my lunch break is only half an hour06:22
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slow-motionhallo06:43
GrueTamereyy06:43
JuanTelezhi06:44
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[EG] EndeRhi there06:52
[EG] EndeRI have a question06:52
[EG] EndeRI am running xubuntu and I want to get the pictures from my Canon Powershot S206:53
[EG] EndeRxubuntu does not seem to automatically detect the camera06:53
[EG] EndeRany suggestions?06:53
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cheeseboyvidd_laptop, u there?06:59
vidd_laptopyes.... im on a call right now....06:59
cheeseboykk i just finshed dling cd07:00
vidd_laptopcool07:01
JuanTelezcould somebody please tell what is the program to config a dial up conection that comes whit Xubuntu?07:02
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vidd_laptopJuanTelez, sudo network-admin07:03
cheeseboyvidd_laptop, can i refresh hardware dection w/o reboot?07:05
cheeseboycause i hadda plugh my cd drive in07:06
vidd_laptopyes...but im not sure how....07:06
cheeseboy:(07:07
vidd_laptopmy stuff is usually auto-detected and auto-loaded when i plug it in07:08
vidd_laptopput a disk in the drive...the contents should autoload07:08
JuanTelezvidd_laptop: thanks, actualy I don't use Xubuntu07:08
JuanTelezvidd_laptop: I'm trying to help a friend, but he is even more newbie than me07:10
vidd_laptopJuanTelez, is HE using xubuntu?07:11
JuanTelezvidd_laptop: vidd_laptop yes07:11
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cheatersrealmwhat is the command line name for the cd burner that thunar invokes by default?07:11
vidd_laptopthen on his computer, go to the command line, and type sudo network-admin07:11
JuanTelezvidd_laptop: I will like to see some screenshots of the program07:12
JuanTelezvidd_laptop: thats why I ask the name of the program07:12
vidd_laptopthe name of the app is "network-sdmin"07:12
vidd_laptop*admin07:12
JuanTelezthanks again vidd_laptop07:12
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cheeseboy1vidd_laptop, burnin cd now07:17
vidd_laptopcool07:17
vidd_laptopwhen you first run it, immediately check the disk for errors07:17
cheeseboy1:(07:18
cheeseboy1theres gonna be a fewerrors07:18
vidd_laptopnot necessarily...just ALWAYS good practice07:19
cheeseboy1the cds scrached up a lil07:20
cheeseboy1but always worksfine07:20
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cheeseboy1vidd_laptop, now installing07:36
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cheeseboy1vidd_laptop, craplots of errors07:49
cheeseboy1:(07:49
vidd_laptopwhat kind of errors?07:49
cheeseboy1all stuf to do w/ debootstrap07:50
vidd_laptopthat should be ok (i think)07:51
vidd_laptopwhat happened when you ran the "check cd"?07:51
cheeseboy1i dint07:52
cheeseboy1nethered be errors07:52
vidd_laptopheh....07:52
vidd_laptopdid the disk load to the menu screen?07:53
cheeseboy1and i have no othercds :(07:53
cheeseboy1yes07:53
vidd_laptopand you did NOT choose "check cd"?07:53
cheeseboy1yep07:53
vidd_laptopreboot and choose "check cd"07:54
magic_ninjais there a utility to convert the hex in wine debugging output to readable text07:54
magic_ninjavidd_laptop: whats up man long time no see07:54
vidd_laptopmagic_ninja, not much...just got my serverbox co-located07:54
vidd_laptopwww.vidd.us07:54
cheeseboy1vidd_laptop, how long it take?07:55
vidd_laptopdepends on your system07:55
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cheeseboy1its old07:56
cheeseboy1p3 128mb ram07:56
Merchelonice site07:56
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vidd_laptopcheeseboy1, you ARE running the alt cd....right?08:00
cheeseboy1yes08:04
vidd_laptopgood...cuzz i dont think the live can run with that little ram08:05
cheeseboy1vidd_laptop,  will it be slow wen its installed?08:06
vidd_laptopno...not really08:07
cheeseboy1the cd failed check08:07
cheeseboy1wat can i do08:07
cheeseboy1?08:07
vidd_laptopyou will need to get a cd to pass the check08:09
cheeseboy1i only have 1 cd :(08:09
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cheeseboy1vidd_laptop, if i burn cd slower it be better?08:13
vidd_laptopyes...the slower the better08:14
cheeseboy1kk ill burn a 1x08:14
cheeseboy1:( has to be 4x08:16
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magic_ninjawe got ne wineaholics in the house08:17
magic_ninjai'm seriously stumped08:17
BFTD?08:18
magic_ninjaim getting an unhandle exception fault and Im trying to figure out what the Export ntdll or export kernel32 etc mean in the error message08:20
magic_ninjaso I can determine whats causing the page fault08:20
magic_ninjamabye a program that converts the hex in the output into readable stuff08:22
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Chikubuhey, im working on installing xubuntu on an older box, when i boot live cd, some of the shell isnt loading, notable the part that puts a task bar at top and bottom and part that lets you pick applications, how can i manualy start it?08:23
TheSheepChikubu: alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel'08:24
TheSheepChikubu: if you have less than 192MB ram, the installation will fail, better use the alternate cd08:25
Chikubuhave 19208:25
magic_ninjachikubu see if this helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31340608:26
Chikubuhow do i start the gui? i have a desktop with icons but no task bar or application selection08:26
magic_ninjaits for ubuntu but will work fine with xubuntu08:26
TheSheepChikubu: alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel'08:27
magic_ninjaI have no idea why i'm banned in #winehq, i havn't talked in that channel for like a month08:28
Chikubuthats what i needed :) thnx08:28
Chikubuif its a post script printer, it should work easily in linux correcT?08:29
Chikubumabye someone on your same isp was banned and you got included08:30
Chikubuhwy when i use gparted to delete partions, it seems to delete but puts a pendeing operation at bottom? is it working on deleting? thought it was pretty much instantaneous08:32
TheSheepChikubu: no, any operations you perform need to be 'applied'08:34
TheSheepChikubu: that's because they cannot be reverted08:34
Chikubuok i see08:34
Chikubuidiot proffing :)08:35
Chikubuman this has been such a huge fight08:36
Chikubua bad memory stick cause me so much greif ugg08:36
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Chikubuwell it runs slow from live cd, but runs!  im encouraged, wsant sure box was fast enough08:38
vidd_laptopbecause the08:39
cheeseboy1vidd_laptop, seems to have burned ok this time :)08:40
vidd_laptopok....08:40
vidd_laptopyeah...older machines cant read disks that are bruned at or faster then thy can read08:40
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vidd_laptopif that makes sense....08:41
cheeseboy1i cleaned it too08:41
cheeseboy1was a lil dusty08:41
vidd_laptoplike if you have a cdrom that only reads at 32x, and you burn a disk @ 64x, that 32 speed cdrom drive wont be able to read it08:41
BFTDhrm08:42
=== vidd_laptop will be back in like 10 minutes....the install should go fine
BFTDwhich is why I burn everything at 408:42
vidd_laptopme too BFTD08:42
vidd_laptopnever know when i want to stick my disk in any old piece08:43
vidd_laptop=] 08:43
vidd_laptopthat sounded perverted08:43
vidd_laptopbrb08:43
Chikubuwell the cd is still blinking, thats a good sign08:46
arooI have my wifi card working perfectly with ndiswrapper, but I have to set it all up each time at boot, is there anyway to get it to work on boot?08:48
Chikubui dont know enuff about linux to help sorry, but seems you could put it in startup with command line options08:49
cheeseboy1vidd_laptop, still error but theresl ess08:50
cheeseboy1less08:50
cheeseboy1*08:50
vidd_laptopim back08:52
vidd_laptopwhat error ou get?08:53
cheeseboy1somtin wascorrupt08:54
Chikubuthe install option from live cd, does it compile something, its taking forever, even on this turtle08:54
Chikubuthat turtle anyway08:54
vidd_laptopcheeseboy1, how old is the box?08:54
Jester45Chikubu, no compileing08:56
Chikubuhmm wonder what its doing08:56
Chikubuthe cd is still blinking, but system is so sluggish mouse takes minute to move08:56
Jester45how much ram does the machine have08:56
cheeseboy1vidd_laptop, a coupleyears08:56
Chikubu19208:56
Chikububut its a 48608:56
Jester45get vidd_laptop im back08:57
cheeseboy1came out around 2000 i think08:57
Jester45well thats why with 192 it barely has the ram to run the live cd08:57
Chikubuok, i dont mind it taking along time, as long is its not dead08:57
Jester45cheeseboy1, if anything get the installer to format the disc and then you will have swap space and that will make it faster08:58
Chikubuack, lol i delete the swap space to the install would auto allocate what it wanted08:58
Chikubufrom a previous failed attempt08:58
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cheeseboy1hopefully ill get it installed08:59
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Chikubu...cd still blinking :)09:25
Chikubuokm,the screen went blank, but cd still blinking...does live cd have screen saver or power saver turned on?09:29
Chikubunm its back, mustve been screen saver09:30
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cheeseboy1vidd_laptop, i hope ur still around when install finishes :(09:35
vidd_laptopim here09:37
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cheeseboy1vidd_laptop, base system installed ok halfway through software09:40
vidd_laptopcool09:40
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cheeseboy1vidd_laptop,09:49
cheeseboy1vidd_laptop, its takin forever at xubuntu docs that normal?09:50
vidd_laptopyes09:50
cheeseboy1kk09:50
Chikubuugg i clicked the realese notes and its been 15 minutes, cd still blinking09:57
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Chikubuis there a keyboard command to bring up a process list?09:58
cheeseboy1vidd_laptop, ugh i cant get this installed:(09:58
vidd_laptopyou get an error?09:59
cheeseboy1yes09:59
cheeseboy1i need network to install this10:00
vidd_laptopwhat error10:00
cheeseboy1corrupt file10:00
cheeseboy1vidd_laptop, can i get internet working in a shell or somtin?10:01
vidd_laptopcheeseboy1, yes....10:01
vidd_laptopretry install with command line only10:01
cheeseboy1kk cause then i get corrupted files from internet right?10:02
vidd_laptopwell....no corrupted...but yeah10:02
cheeseboy1i wish this pc booted dvds :(10:03
cheeseboy1i have 100+ of those10:04
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cheeseboy1vidd_laptop, u there?10:47
vidd_laptopim here10:47
cheeseboy1im in command line system10:48
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vidd_laptopok....you want to run lspci10:49
cheeseboy1kk10:49
vidd_laptopfind the item about your wireless network card....10:50
vidd_laptopwhat does it say?10:50
cheeseboy1for network:10:52
cheeseboy1broadcom corporation BCM43XG (rev 01)10:53
vidd_laptopok...as i expected...it is a broadcom 43xx card10:53
cheeseboy1kk10:54
vidd_laptopon my downloads page, get http://www.vidd.us/downloads/bcm43xx-fwcutter_20060501-5_i386.deb10:54
vidd_laptopyou will also need the the firmware....10:55
cheeseboy1where i get that?10:55
vidd_laptopill get that10:57
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b52GMhi10:58
b52GMone noob question please for enabling X distant connection true ssh i just need to change the XForward value in ssh_config ?10:58
vidd_laptophttp://boredklink.googlepages.com/wl_apsta.o10:59
b52GMof do i need soemthing else ?10:59
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aroo_How do I install custom xfce themes? Do I need to extract them somewhere special?11:03
cheeseboy1vidd_laptop, whatscommand to mount my pendrive ?11:04
vidd_laptopfrom the command lin...i dont know11:04
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vidd_laptopBFTD, can you help cheeseboy1 mount his pen drive ?11:14
vidd_laptophe is in CLI only11:14
BFTDsweet11:14
vidd_laptopBFTD, its only temporary....11:14
BFTDoh11:15
vidd_laptopuntil he gets his wifi on line and downloads the desktop11:15
BFTDcheeseboy1 "ls /media"11:15
BFTDgetting his card to work is no problem11:15
vidd_laptopthen can you help him with that too?11:15
BFTDsure11:16
vidd_laptopcuzz i need to go home in like 10 minutes11:16
vidd_laptopi already pointed him to the fw cutter and the firmware11:16
cheeseboy1how i manually mount fat32 pendrive ??11:16
BFTDcheeseboy1 can you get internet to your comp for a few min's so that you can install the drivers for your card?11:16
cheeseboy1no11:16
cheeseboy1need pendrive11:17
cheeseboy1how i mount it?11:17
vidd_laptopBFTD, no...he has the files on his pendrive11:17
BFTDinstalling fwcutter will automaticly install the drivers11:17
BFTDoh11:17
BFTDdang thats like the hard way to do it but ok11:17
BFTDanyways11:17
vidd_laptop+}11:17
BFTDcheeseboy1 run this command11:17
BFTDls /media11:18
BFTDand post what it says11:18
cheeseboy11  2  3  cdrom  cdrom0  samba  sdb111:18
cheeseboy1i createdall those tho11:18
BFTD?11:18
BFTDwhen?11:18
cheeseboy1i hve to mount things manually on this pc11:18
BFTDwhat version?11:18
cheeseboy1but i forgot how11:18
cheeseboy1??11:19
vidd_laptopfiesty?11:19
vidd_laptopcheeseboy1, are you running 7.04?11:20
cheeseboy1ya but server11:20
BFTDok11:20
BFTDls /media/sdb111:20
vidd_laptopcheeseboy1, BFTD is goint to help from here....11:21
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vidd_laptopl8rs11:21
cheeseboy1BFTD nothing11:21
cheeseboy1i need to mount manually11:21
cheeseboy1wats thje command?11:21
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BFTDsudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb111:22
BFTDor11:22
BFTDsudo -a mount11:22
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cheeseboy1BFTD its not sdb1 i for get which device it is11:24
BFTDoh11:24
BFTDwell11:25
BFTDtry sdc1 sdd1 sde1 and sdf111:25
BFTDone of those should work11:25
cheeseboy1no11:26
BFTD?11:27
BFTDis it plugged in?11:27
cheeseboy1yes11:29
BFTDdfc-h11:30
BFTDoops11:30
BFTDdf h11:30
BFTDargh11:30
BFTDdf -h11:30
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cheeseboy1???11:31
TheSheepBFTD: df only shows info about mounted devices11:32
cheeseboy1ill put files on pendrive in wwindows11:32
BFTDyeah11:33
cheeseboy1BFTD u there?11:50
cheeseboy1help ???11:58
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Jester45cheeseboy1, what ya need12:04
cheeseboy1getmy wirelee card to work12:06
Jester45i dont know how to do wireless... i always found it to slow12:07
viddcheeseboy1, where you stuck at?12:07
cheeseboy1its not working12:08
cliebowpcmcia?12:08
viddis it all installed?12:08
cheeseboy1http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear12:08
cheeseboy1i did that12:08
cliebowwtch var/log/messages when you plug in..12:08
cliebowif pcmcia12:08
cheeseboy1ya pcmia12:09
cheeseboy1so wat i do ???12:10
viddwhen you "sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o" did you replace ~/Desktop/ with the path on your usb drive that had the wl_apsta.o file?12:10
cheeseboy1yes12:11
vidddid you run modprobe bcm43xx ?12:11
cheeseboy1yes12:11
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vidddid you reboot?12:11
cheeseboy1yes12:12
vidddid you set up /etc/network/interfaces?12:12
cheeseboy1no12:12
viddah...that is why....12:13
cheeseboy1because i dont know what device name is12:13
cheeseboy1wen i do ifconfig -a only lo is listed12:13
viddthen type iwconfig12:13
Jester45i think it would be wlan0 right?12:14
cheeseboy1ony lo afgain12:14
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viddlo should not show up when you do iwconfig12:14
viddonly wireless devices should show12:14
cheeseboy1says lo no wireless extebsions12:15
viddhrm....12:15
viddit should be listed as eth012:16
cheeseboy1but it isnt12:16
cliebowheck ..a bloody broadcom card12:16
viddcheeseboy1, then follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty12:17
arooWhat's the command to open another terminal from the default terminal?12:18
vidduse the instructions for setting up with ndiswrapper....12:18
arooI'd use xterm but I like the default xubuntu terminal better12:18
TheSheeparoo: xfce4-terminal&12:18
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arooThanks much12:19
Catoptromancy_could make a wireless floppy12:19
viddhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.43-1ubuntu1_i386.deb12:20
Catoptromancy_both nids.debs and my drivers fit on floppy12:20
Catoptromancy_ndis is also on feisty CD12:20
viddcheeseboy1, use the cd then....12:20
viddsudo apt-get install ndiswrapper12:21
Catoptromancy_in /pool/ something12:21
cheeseboy1ugh this is such a pain :(12:23
viddyes it is12:25

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