=== vidd [n=vidd@static-72-86-132-125.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === Rocito [n=Rocito@ip166-14-212-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #xubuntu [12:32] Hi! I wanna setup a way to graphically ssh into a windows-box over the internet from my xubuntu box [12:33] anyone have relevant xp on the matter? [12:35] I'd offer help but I've never done it with Windows === adam0509 [n=benoit@stc92-1-82-227-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:38] ah [12:38] could you point me in the right direction? [12:38] i'm sure it won't differ too much [12:39] aroo - a few lines up :) [12:40] I'm not sure on the differences but I've used x11vnc and vncserver [12:40] No clue if they are available on Windows [12:43] thanks aroo , i'll look it up. Know anything about PuTTy? [12:52] Sorry Rocito for not checking this channel often, I know enough to ssh with it === Milia [n=cc-user@70.134.64.147] has joined #xubuntu === usr_rob_ [n=robert@c-22dae055.105-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu === deep` [n=deep@85.89.66.93] has joined #xubuntu === DaBeowulf [n=stefan@pD9EBD7B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #Xubuntu [] === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === bulio [n=bulio@about/chess/king] has joined #xubuntu [01:11] can I edit partitions with the xubuntu live/install CD? [01:12] without actually installing Xubuntu [01:13] Ok thanks aroo, i think i'll use x11vnc to log into windows native 'desktop sharing' VNC server, it should work fine... .. . .. wishful thinking ;) === odat [n=odat@c-71-207-39-41.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:17] hi everyone [01:18] anyone know where to find the irc channel for deli linux? [01:20] /join #ubuntu === odat [n=odat@c-71-207-39-41.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] === wheels3572 [n=wheels@dsl-69-50-51-206.pivot.net] has joined #xubuntu === bulio| [n=bulio|la@about/chess/king] has joined #xubuntu [01:51] I'm running an Xubuntu CD, and am trying to access my Desktop of a broken xubuntu install [01:51] I keep trying to access it, but it says permission denied [01:51] is there some way I can get into the desktop so that I can backup my files? [01:54] anyone? === yesdup [n=dad@124-197-24-40.callplus.net.nz] has joined #xubuntu === yesdup [n=dad@124-197-24-40.callplus.net.nz] has left #xubuntu [] === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.137.133] has joined #xubuntu === Eagle_101 [n=eagle@unaffiliated/eagle101/x-0000001] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-178-139.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === varka_ [n=varkatop@p54a5d49d.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:21] bulio|, did you try to mount the hard drive with sudo? === luisbg [n=d33p@205.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #xubuntu [02:25] cliebow: I'll try in a second === Qew [n=qew@82-69-126-225.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B95BE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-84-11.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B95BE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === Merchelo [n=Merchelo@deathray.redbrick.dcu.ie] has joined #xubuntu === Wolfcastle [i=dvasquez@pc-84-84-47-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:36] greetings [02:37] which is the best way to update xubuntu edgy? with aptitutde or from a cd? === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-160-171.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:39] Wolfcastle: i had a good experience with the GUI upgrade manager. [02:39] you mean synaptic? [02:39] one thing... before you upgrade, can you make sure that you have the xubuntu-desktop meta-package installed. [02:39] Wolfcastle: no, there's a separate application. [02:39] not synaptic. [02:39] let me see if i can find the name of it. [02:40] thanx === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.137.133] has left #xubuntu [] [02:41] here is a link to a good site that should take you through it: http://preview.tinyurl.com/3d4kkg [02:41] (i've put the page in preview mode . . . via tinyurl) [02:42] thank you :-) [02:43] yw. [02:43] check to make sure you have the xubuntu-desktop package installed. :) [02:43] and do you have any automatix stuff installed? [02:43] Wolfcastle: ping :) [02:44] nop don't think i have automatix [02:44] xubuntu-desktop yes i have it [02:44] ok. you'd know if you have automatix installed. [02:44] sounds good. :) good luck! === i-like-beans [n=dave@CPE-124-190-208-242.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #xubuntu [02:58] How can you make it so X doesnt automatically run at start up and can be started and stopped manually? [03:01] you need to change your run level, i-like-beans [03:02] i-like-beans: install sysv-rc-conf, open it in a terminal, and make it so that 'gdm' doesn't start on runlevel 2. [03:03] j1mc, thanks [03:03] cellofellow, thank you also I'll try that now [03:03] cellofellow: what about this: http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html [03:04] keep it on runlevel 3 so if you want to use it just do 'sudo init 3' === cellofellow opens URL [03:04] editing /etc/inittab [03:06] I like sysv-rc-conf [03:06] hmmm... ok. i'll have to check that out. [03:06] And one other thing, what terminal command can I use to list the hardware I have? [03:07] lspci [03:07] lspci is a good one [03:07] lspci is like ls for hardware, i love it :) [03:07] cat /proc/meminfo will list your memory informatoin [03:07] cat /proc/cpuinfo will list cpu info [03:07] thanks again guys === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === luisbg [n=d33p@205.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #xubuntu [03:19] hyper_ch, can i bug ya again about wordpress? [03:19] forgot command for bach to make a .txt log [03:19] something like > file.txt [03:20] Catoptromancy: well, what are you trying to do? [03:21] actually i got it [03:22] if you enter something like "cat /proc/cpuinfo > cpuinfo.txt" it will pipe the output of that command to that text file [03:22] ya === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-160-171.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:58] *wave* cellofellow [03:59] *wave* everyone [03:59] particularly Vidd [03:59] cellofellow, check my blog: [03:59] viid.blogspot.com? [03:59] http://vidd.us/wordpress [04:08] !ntfs [04:08] cellofellow, new post updated [04:08] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse [04:09] vidd ok [04:09] !ntfs-3g [04:09] ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions [04:13] I have a file with lots of ^M stuff, isn't that DOS format? How do I convert that? === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === Zambezi [i=Hideit@bnc.from.tx-shells.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:28] how do I install pidgin on xubuntu? [04:28] only gaim is in the repos [04:30] go to vidds download page, he has a deb package of pidgin on their [04:30] vidd: right? ^^ [04:31] ok [04:32] try packages.debian.org maybe. [04:32] Use Sid (Unstable) packages in Ubuntu. [04:36] how do I have Xubuntu automatically mount a drive? [04:36] cellofellow, yes [04:36] vidd.us/downloads [04:37] vidd: nice blog. Needs a theme. ;) [04:37] yeah [04:37] like my site? or have you not looked? [04:38] bulio|: if it's internal, add it to fstab. If it's removable, set up Volume Management (Apps -> Settings -> File Manager -> Advanced (Tab) -> Configure Volume Management (Hyperlink). [04:38] vidd: surfing about [04:38] cellofellow: its internal [04:38] cellofellow, i was refering to the look...there isnt much content yet [04:39] surfing around rather [04:39] and finally, how do I change ownership of said drive to a certain user? [04:39] jester45 set it up for me... [04:39] bulio|: what /dev file and what FS [04:39] I want my user to have read/write access to it [04:39] bulio|: all in /etc/fstab [04:39] !fstab [04:39] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [04:39] sorry I am not an expert on fstab [04:39] /dev/hda7 [04:40] vidd: Virtural :( Virtual [04:40] woops... === vidd cant type [04:40] where'd you get the HTML theme? [04:40] template thing [04:41] or is it powered by Drupal or something? [04:41] come to #viddandme ...jester45 made it...he'd be the one to ask [04:42] ok [04:42] sweet stuff. 300000 mbit line + no bandwidth limit [04:42] how much $$$? === Jester45 [n=ryan@d35-8.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:43] and finally, how do I change ownership of a drive to a certain user? [04:43] chown -R /mnt/storage? [04:43] it's the uid=number option [04:43] in fstab [04:43] as much as I know about it [04:43] cellofellow, the site is not complete...the info is not yet "accuracy proofed" [04:43] oh, I see, just a bunch of filler text. [04:45] yes [04:47] cellofellow, Jester45 said he got the theme from "somewhere on google" [04:47] ok [04:48] uses divs and CSS for layout, that's good. [04:53] yea i dont remember where [04:53] i searched for 3 column [04:54] err more "3 column html " [04:56] no worries [04:57] cellofellow, you want some space? [04:58] I'm good with what I have now, but if you don't mind I may like some later. :) [04:59] np...special "discounted" rates...to all the good ppl that have and will help me out === wheels3572 [n=wheels@dsl-69-50-51-206.pivot.net] has joined #xubuntu === vidd wanted to donate server space to the xubuntu.org site...but i dont know if they acually pay to be hosted.... [05:07] vidd: you only have pidgin 2.0 on your site? [05:07] not 2.0.1? [05:07] yea... i found that one a while ago [05:07] no...didnt know they updated it ;9 [05:07] :( [05:07] oh :P [05:08] vidd is that the one i found [05:08] it should be fine for now === GrueTamer [n=tg@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-84-11.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === AlexC [n=AlexC@dragnet2034196102.dragnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [05:12] bulio|, uploading new 2.0.1-1 deb now [05:13] upload complete [05:14] vidd, uploads interest me [05:14] bulio|, you done downloading the old one? or did you abort? [05:15] AlexC, check out my downloads site then..... www.vidd.us/downloads === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.222.107.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:18] hmm US, you say [05:18] i am australian [05:19] vidd is Pennsylvanian. [05:19] that is ok...you have my permission to view my site [05:19] =] [05:19] cellofellow, .... SHHHH dont tell EVERYONE!!!!! [05:19] =] [05:19] sorry >:) [05:20] I'm from California [05:20] what is mini.iso? [05:20] BFTD, sorry to hear that [05:20] lol [05:20] AlexC, it is the alt-alt cd.... [05:21] lets you install any of the (*)buntu's from the internewt [05:21] haha [05:21] sweet [05:21] I think its a cool state but we should move this topic to #xubuntu-offtopic [05:23] i wonder why i got banned from winehq, i havn't said anything in there for over 2 weeks [05:24] magic_ninja it happens [05:24] maybe it's your name [05:24] magic_ninja? [05:24] they night think your a 1337 n1nj4 [05:24] and be scared of your 1337 skillz [05:25] hello Napoleon Dynamite. [05:25] does anyone know who runs the channel [05:25] magic_ninja: why do you want to know who runs the channel? === test3r [n=shane@71-89-151-154.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:27] chanserv obviously [05:27] lol [05:27] j1mc, probably to request to be un banned [05:27] hey if you goto boot up the livecd and it just dumps you at "BusyBox built in shell (ash). bin/sh can't access TTY: job control turned off" , what are you supposed to do at that point? [05:27] vidd: oh, i thought he meant this channel. [05:27] would it b best to try a 3.5" tux version with taht box? [05:28] or will Any tux work on it ? if xubuntu couldt even make a VC, tux might be a bad option [05:28] j1mc, just a hunch....based on what he was saying [05:28] vidd: i think you're right [05:28] test3r: i'm not sure i understand your problem. [05:29] is "tux" a linux distribution? [05:29] well see i try to boot the live CD of Xubuntu 704 right? [05:29] ok [05:29] test3r, did you run a check on the cd to make sure it is not corrupt? [05:29] and it just dumps you at "BusyBox built in shell (ash). bin/sh can't access TTY: job control turned off" , what are you supposed to do at that point? [05:29] thats pretty much my problem. [05:29] its kinda large. [05:29] ? [05:29] =x [05:30] can you describe the computer's specs? [05:30] are you a kernel hacker? [05:30] it is a POS very old box. [05:30] i cant rly [05:30] as i cant lspci [05:30] ... [05:30] how much ram? [05:30] 240. [05:30] PC100 [05:30] (i just put it in.) [05:31] is that enough to run live? [05:31] 240mb? [05:31] wel it runs on 128 [05:31] j1mc: i would like to know who runs the channel so i can go about getting myself unbanned because i don't believe there is a reason for it [05:31] ive installed with 128 [05:31] its a pain [05:31] a live cd of xubuntu need 128 to run and 192 to install [05:31] 128 isn't much ram [05:31] but then again ive installed slack from floppy [05:31] at least that what they say [05:31] so im not sure it matters [05:31] Jester45: not if u strip down the install [05:31] Jester45: those are old specs. it needs more than 192 to run the live cd. [05:32] test3r, try turning off acpi [05:32] i have ~248 MB of PC100 RAM in it [05:32] acpi said it needed force [05:32] test3r: i recommend trying out the alternate install cd if you want to install xubuntu on that machine [05:32] would it make a dif if i cut it out altogether from bootline of the livecd? [05:32] i would try it... [05:33] you think it will be able to bring up a terminal, then? [05:33] and if that dont work, use the alt or the mini cd [05:33] kus it coulnt launch TTY to set itself up. [05:33] OK i will look up the argument to boot without acpi [05:33] j1mc, well... i tried feisty on a 120mb live cd so... is the "new" rating pertaining to gusty [05:34] if the alt cd cant boot...you might have to try an "alternative install method" [05:34] well the box might not even b able to run X all that gr8 neway [05:34] and all im gana do is throw snort on it neway [05:34] . [05:35] shouldi jus minimalslack it? [05:35] Jester45: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2007-April/003509.html === kalikiana_ [n=kalikian@xdsl-213-168-120-254.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [05:35] if you are comfy with slack...then by all means [05:35] apparently there are some exceptions? :) [05:35] is the rate of boot any higher on old-old-end machines? [05:35] vidd? [05:36] using slak install from floppy? i got it to work on a 16MB ram compaq [05:36] but that doesnt mean its totaly gana boot [05:36] .. [05:36] and its got 98 on it that i could tweek [05:37] if anything, i would imagine older machines might take longer to boot because cd roms, and other hardware are not designed to run as fast as newer stuff [05:37] linux is more tweakable than 98 [05:37] Universal Boot CD may help. [05:38] tru. youd think it would b reasonalbe fast too it has PC100 in it- must have a descent AMD it looked like an AMD board when i was upgrading the ram [05:38] test3r: what processor type/speed does this computer have? === vidd needs to hit the rack....got work in the am [05:39] im not even sure lets see if i can boot up win98 still - i had to switch my internal PCI cables to get the CD rom to be bootable-from [05:39] l8ers [05:40] the machine is so old- that on systems BIOS chck stuffs - it counts the ram 3 times [05:40] BOOT FAILURE [05:40] insert sys disk and press enter [05:40] nope [05:40] this box is jakt [05:41] only one oter hope for it now. [05:43] flash bios [05:43] put linuxbios on it or something [05:44] or update existing bios [05:44] yeah no joke there, man. now it says same thing it is only thing on pci cord [05:45] i now have a good suspiciion [05:45] thisboard can only boot from PCI1 [05:45] it wont boot from 2 it seems. [05:46] Yes [05:46] thisis the case [05:46] it is very, very , very, very , LOL [05:46] VERY old [05:46] =( [05:47] im not even sure slack can handl this one. ima try get HDD on IDE1.master and the CD on IDE1.slave [05:48] get a historic distro, they are always fun [05:49] yeah now im thinkin, slak11 migt even b too much 4 it. can u recommend one, Alex? === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-160-171.mammothnetworks.com] has left #xubuntu [] [05:54] test3r, how about a cli-only? [05:56] yeah cli is fine- thats what slack is when you start from floppy [05:56] i cant get these both on a PCI tho [05:56] slave is the inside connect yes? [05:56] master is the farthest [05:56] from the mobo connect [05:57] ? [05:58] the physical connect head if you are doing cableselect [05:59] i think i see the prob now the HDD is jumpered longways i ned to maek it master [05:59] right dow the middle mas w/slave === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-84-11.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-84-11.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has left #xubuntu [] [06:03] btw its Pentium2 , 350Mhrz [06:03] it just now started up as HDD master CD slave [06:03] for the first time in its existance. [06:06] i have one of those [06:06] but i took out the ram [06:06] and graphics [06:06] so it doesn't run that well [06:10] ok i got 256(248)MB RAM, and the chipset is an intel i440BX it claims [06:10] running memtest. i just got "could not find kernel: H" from the UBUNTU disk [06:11] mine is an IBM personal computer 300gl [06:11] sometimes i have luck with one not the other so i try ubuntu too === kalikiana__ [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-177-89.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:11] mine doesn't run live cds from 6.10 onwards [06:11] but i know that disk is fine. this computer is quite picky, indeed. [06:11] oh yeah? hmmmmm maybe i should try 606 then? [06:12] it worked for me [06:12] that computer isn't running anymore though [06:12] i got an AMD 1.3GHZ [06:12] now === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:12] aw crud- it bit the big circuit in the sky? [06:13] huh? [06:13] i just had an NEC monitor, a MultiSync , that I had for years, burn out on me [06:13] used it for 10 yrs or more i bet. [06:13] lol [06:13] i had an IBM monitor, it caught alight [06:14] like , on Fire? [06:15] chit! thats one of my biggest fears because Im always working with these old computers in, here, in my basement [06:15] i always make sure i got a drink close by [06:15] andnot spirits lol [06:17] :) [06:18] "here fire,have some 80 proof liquer" === mrjinx [n=matt@64-83-242-31.clearwave.com] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-176-232.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === jrsims [n=jrsims@c-24-7-153-83.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:20] well it *might* save some of the computer if you could get some water quickly after [06:20] I just ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and restarted. but everything looks the same? [06:20] I had edgy [06:21] and thats if the water doesnt break it also because the liquor wouldnt instaly burn... so it might give you a second but then its a bigger fire after that [06:21] hahahaha, yeah id say liquor would be the bad choice to put out a computer fire with [06:22] my objective with throwing my drink at it is just to keep anything Else from burning [06:22] like, the house [06:22] u can buy a new puter a LOT cheaper [06:23] hey, any xubuntu users here? [06:23] idk some computer are pricey and some house are cheap :) [06:23] I just ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and restarted. but everything looks the same? [06:23] there miht be some of them lurking about, jrsims [06:23] ;) [06:23] jrsims, did you edit your sources.list and apt-get update [06:23] Imagine that... Xubuntu users in #xubuntu. [06:23] ah... no [06:23] =O !!!!! Wait ? Where am I ? [06:24] =D === __Krush [n=chatzill@85.232.198.131] has joined #xubuntu [06:24] so the steps to upgrade from edgy to feisty are??? [06:24] i usedthe cd [06:24] edit /etc/sources/.list and change your current version to feisty or edgy then apt-get update [06:24] then you can dist-upgrade [06:25] weird. So what was apt doing when I ran dist-upgrade without changing sources? [06:25] yea change all the edgy words in the sources.list to feisty then update and youll be ready [06:25] trying to get the lasted edgy stuff [06:25] so really, dist-upgrade doesn't really come in to play anywhere? [06:26] dist-upgrade is just a smarter way of upgrade [06:26] how is it different? [06:26] and should I always use that then? [06:26] it does if you changinf versions or kernel [06:26] You can also use the update-manager. It's actually recommended over apt-get now - seems it has better conflict and dependency tracking. [06:27] ok, well i will use update-manager [06:27] if updatemanager doesnt work too [06:27] jrsims, the only time you need to use it is when apt- says some some upgrades are held back [06:27] you can always boot recovery [06:27] and try cli options [06:27] It also shouldn't crash, which was an issue around Dapper->Edgy. [06:27] such as apt-get [06:27] ok [06:28] looks like I need to quit everything to run this. so thanks for the help, and see ya later! [06:28] update-manager? heck the screensaver goes with the updates going in here [06:29] id b tempted to actually run something else. [06:29] :) [06:29] ;p [06:29] i do untill it starts installing [06:29] but when its downloading i do things [06:30] but course now with my l33t skills i have seprate partitions and just upgrade with cd + dcript [06:30] yeah you shouldnt have the pak up its actualy updating by install at the sam time. just downloading pax obviously isnt changing anything [06:30] script* [06:31] why dont u jus get ur pax out of ur /var/apt/cache ? === test3r np> maaazystarrrrrrrrr [06:32] ??? using a script is better because you get the newest stuff [06:33] OK im confused- are you making a test install on the other partition? what IS the point of the other partition? and how is that dif than the live cd? and why is new better than stable? [06:33] its simple first, edit sources.list to include all wanted repos second apt-get update [06:34] third, remove unwanted things. forth install wanted things. and last update [06:34] new is better because you get new stuff. at lease for me [06:35] and... i use the alt cd because its simpler and faster [06:35] it could b Faster. [06:35] if i had a number sequence i could put at boot prompt [06:35] and the point is that i can keep many configs and /home stuff but yet can have a fresh install [06:36] no im saying that i dont upgrade to new versions [06:36] i use a cd to install [06:36] oicu have your /home and other app specific dirs on the other partition [06:36] and the first is the os [06:37] yeah i was thinking about doing that, then i went with the complete other dist option on this notebook. [06:37] but i use a 2nd partition to store stuff that i dont want to format so that after the upgrade its like i have a fresh system but with my configs still there [06:37] so it has XP, xubuntu, and nubuntu on it's HDD. [06:37] nubuntu ? [06:38] yes - it's for security auditing of networks. [06:38] net ubuntu ? === kalikiana has two 5gb root partitions and some ~30gb partitions for data, one might be home. That's easy. :D [06:38] ithink its short for network buntu yes [06:38] uses flux [06:39] i had to hak grub manually and pass it a UUID for it to start up [06:39] After managing to get it onto the hdd [06:39] because the installer is, well, non-existant. [06:42] this is a stupid question probley but gusty has a live cd right? i just figured i would after before searching for it [06:42] but thats the way it should be honestly. if you cant get that up and going, you shouldnt be using the tools On it probably [06:43] dunno [06:49] do you mean Gutsy? [06:49] gutsy gibbon>? [06:50] i tested with 610 and my gForce 2 was broke with that one i still dont know why they must have figured it out though [06:50] yea [06:50] we chkt and chkt in here [06:51] =) [06:52] hark!@ MEMTEST86 is almost complete [06:52] ill test 606 like someone was saying [06:53] i was thinking about hark then i thought UHARC then i thought of HVAC. - u know - forthelongest time, because of doom, i thought HVAC were computers [06:54] no idea why. kus it always says UHARC on the cases dont it? [06:54] where the Heck did i get that from? honestly. [06:54] !info quota [06:54] quota: implementation of the disk quota system. In component main, is optional. Version 3.14-6 (feisty), package size 414 kB, installed size 1264 kB === Jester45 is going to quota himself to 1b per day [06:55] one bite? ;p [06:56] i took yours ahd his bites today, man whooooaaaa [06:56] two trashed hotdogs, two helpings beans [06:56] and these cheesey hash brown potatoes homemade [06:56] oooooooooo [06:56] =x [06:57] my family can throw a party. [06:59] it was my lil cousins 16th. [06:59] surprise party actualy Worked, heh [07:01] ok i got 606 ubuntu desk to try first, then i got a 606 alt Xu, too [07:02] woot loading kernel [07:03] thats a nice Step Up from not finding it at all. [07:04] i wonder what the big difference is between 606 and 704 that would cause it not to work === AlexC [n=AlexC@dragnet2034196102.dragnet.com.au] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] [07:08] umm [07:08] xfce whent to a newer major version version [07:09] yeah, that is true. but the cd couldnt even load the kernel [07:09] it didnt even get to a vid driver [07:09] new kernels also [07:10] oo? =/ huh! well crud, so now the old machines have to use the older versions, huh? [07:10] edgy was 6.17 and now its 6.20 [07:11] oh man [07:11] u should see the res [07:11] LOL the icon i the size of y fist [07:11] um it might be a bad idea putting this on here. [07:11] it looks like crap inside X =( [07:12] maybe its not using the intel driver tho. but i didnt see an i400 driver [07:14] well acording to the xorg.conf that is in /filesystem of the livecd, it is using the i740 driver [07:15] theother chipset must b what was on the mobo itself [07:19] 640x480@60hrz =((( i cant even see the "next" btn on the installer [07:19] bollox [07:22] why dont you use the alternative installer? its much faster [07:25] yeah now im trying that actually 606 xubuntu [07:25] can i resize fat32 with that? [07:26] with the manual partition option? [07:26] should [07:26] or did it even exist on 606? === i-like-beans [n=dave@CPE-124-190-208-242.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #xubuntu [07:26] it did [07:26] k [07:26] i love aXXo === Chikubu [i=Chikubu@205.163.99.155] has joined #xubuntu [07:28] hello pplz [07:28] hi [07:29] im getting fatal error near end of install, unable to install GRUB in (hd0) - - executing 'grub-install (hdo)' failed. [07:29] system wont boot after this, tried reinstall from live cd, same error [07:30] do you have anoter linux installed already? [07:30] no [07:30] o yea... can anyone here tell me how to test bandwidth from the cli.... i tried wget but im not sure where i should download to get full speed [07:30] but win98 is [07:31] it Should b find with win98 no problems at all [07:31] how can i launch grub manualy, were does it park [07:32] well... it seems like you didnt install it [07:32] is it on cd [07:32] because it failed to execute the install [07:33] the directory /var/cache/apt is where it might be right after it has just tried to install [07:33] if you can get to root [07:33] and cp that pak into ur hdd [07:33] then root into your install [07:33] u can get it on ^ ^ [07:34] put it in the same spot [07:34] then when you run for it to install that pack, it will get it off there [07:34] its not in /apt [07:34] oh wait the connect isnt the prob- my bad, b [07:34] not right now [07:34] immediately after it has been installed / tried to install [07:35] not so sure about the Tried part, there [07:35] which was just then [07:35] but its a good chance [07:36] why dont you just get the pack while running thelive cd [07:36] is there a way to set it up from there, or get it....,,, hmmmm [07:36] You can run grub-install from the cd. If it doesn't install, it should at least give a useful error. [07:37] , heh, see i knew it was something i wasnt thinking about correctly [07:38] and pumpernickel, it will effect the HDD then, and not just the ram, at that point? [07:38] ok let me try off the cd [07:38] do you have to pass it anything before? [07:39] help system needs some work dead links everywhere [07:40] Before, no, just run it. It will affect the HDD, once you confirm what you want done. [07:41] can u use Thunar to mount a cd [07:48] does live cd mount cd as /mnt/cdrom ? [07:48] yeah- go in and do "ls" [07:49] er not itself [07:49] thats once its going [07:50] im not even sure if this install is worth saving thats on this computer im working on [07:51] doh its just cdrom, i was making it complicated [07:51] ~4g win98 install... it has some Gator thing on the TASKbar [07:51] blelch. and like 83MB of junk on root [07:51] recovered docs [07:51] i prob shouldnt even have the thing connected to my net =9 === Alucard-sama [n=alucard-@C-59-101-253-109.bur.connect.net.au] has joined #xubuntu === rokra [n=christor@ANancy-153-1-14-234.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [08:05] avg 7.5 just upgraded the version 6 that was on this win98 box in ~2min and a reboot. === Alucard-sama [n=alucard-@C-59-101-253-109.bur.connect.net.au] has left #xubuntu ["Konversation] === grazie [n=grazie@88-109-235-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === zoidberg [n=zoidberg@161.32.234.65] has joined #xubuntu [08:36] hey guys [08:36] how can you make a perl script run at login? === logmein [n=logmein@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:37] how things going, anyone need anything? [08:37] logmein, i need something [08:37] how do i run a script on login [08:37] ? [08:38] under menu >> settings >> auto started applications [08:38] zoidberg: trying to get beryl up or such? [08:39] no this lil perl script that starts the YAB adesklet on startup === deep` [n=deep@85.89.66.93] has joined #xubuntu === rokra_ [n=christor@ANancy-153-1-99-235.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === unikon [n=unikon@unaffiliated/unikon] has joined #xubuntu === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.137.133] has joined #xubuntu [09:01] hey have any of you ever had a problem with trying to log in to Xubuntu where you put in the user id and password yet it takes you back to the login screen === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5D49D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === SportChick [n=essy@freenode/staff/sportchick] has joined #xubuntu === Kjellviz [n=opera@c213-89-100-240.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #xubuntu [09:31] on a 20gb hdd install, 2gb for swap and the rest ext3, does that sound bout ok ? [09:32] why would you need 2gb for swap [09:32] dunno, its what pclinuxos set up as swap on a previous install [09:32] 2,8gb to be exact [09:33] hmm [09:33] well i guess it couldnt hurt [09:33] probably better [09:37] how much ram you got? [09:38] not so much swap that's a bit too much [09:38] shouldn't ever need more than about one gig of swap [09:39] i think it has 256mb [09:39] and that's only so you can do advanced suspension and hibernation features [09:39] might even be 128 [09:39] for regular desktop use x2 the ram it has but stop at 1gig [09:39] ok [09:39] so 256 use 512 swap [09:39] i made 2gb now :P [09:39] and it won't be exact because it sizes it so you get max performance out of hard drive space for the file system type [09:39] but i guess it doesent hurt [09:40] its not like i need the space for something else [09:41] I'm using so far 11G and that's with a shitload of installer files, movies, pictures etc [09:41] I also tend to use dev files for compiling a lot [09:41] this comp will be used for surfing only [09:41] Kjellviz: you can do a lot of stuff with 256mb [09:42] ye, but it will be used for surfing only ^^ [09:42] heh [09:42] its a old laptop that the family uses around the house for surfing [09:42] nothing else [09:43] im most curious bout how my wlan will be working [09:43] unikon: What video card does that system have? [09:43] kjellviz: this guide might be helpful for you http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8308 [09:43] kjellviz: lot of firefox things and hardrive adjustment tweaks [09:44] pumpenickel the vid card hasnt been an issue [09:44] Kjellviz: what does lspci say about your wireless interface? [09:44] its an internal vid [09:45] unikon: What maker? [09:45] logmein: dunno im still struggling with install (but i got it working in pclinuxos using ndiswrapper) [09:45] (I'm just thinking of bug 68291.) [09:45] Launchpad bug 68291 in xserver-xorg-video-tdfx "GDM Restarts after Desktop loads while using tdfx driver" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68291 [09:45] the partitioner has problems with my hdd for some reason [09:46] Kjellviz: well grab ndiswrapper from http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/ and compile it, the one in repository is ancient [09:47] they also have a list of cards and what driver to use so grab the windows one and install it with wine which again might want to go to winehq to get: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/ubuntu/feisty/wine_0.9.38~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1_i386.deb [09:47] aha thanks! [09:48] does the newer version have graphical interface ? [09:48] cos it did in pclinuxos [09:48] you don't need a graphical interface if it takes only 3 commands to get going lmao [09:48] ye i know [09:48] but ive had SO much troubles getting it to work before [09:48] since im linux illiterate [09:49] :P [09:49] just remember -i -m modprobe restart [09:49] then fiddle with the wireless switch [09:49] this graphical thingy in pclos was a breeze, it asked for my win driver, installed it and boom i was online [09:51] daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn, the installer partitioner in fiesty sux [09:51] argh [09:51] What's the problem? [09:52] it keeps giving me errors that it cant mount a partition [09:52] and if there has been a previous installation of linux on the hdd [09:52] using the "use the whole hdd" will give me a grub error when booted after install [09:53] Grub can be reinstalled and reconfigured during the Feisty install - that shouldn't be an issue. [09:54] As for mounting the partitions, you're probably facing bug 107259. [09:54] Launchpad bug 107259 in ubiquity "Xubuntu partitioning can fail because ubiquity does not prevent thunar from automounting new partitions" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107259 === logmein [n=logmein@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:54] its the grub that is installed during feisty install that gives the error [09:55] What's the error message? [09:56] ive had error 15 and error 24 [09:58] now the partitioner gave me error "failed creating ext3 filesystem on partition 1 on SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) [09:58] freely translated from swedish though [09:58] and its not a scsi disk, its a laptop [09:59] Grub error 24 isn't good. [09:59] http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Stage2-errors [09:59] yep know [09:59] a reinstalled fixed it though =\ [10:00] ah yeah I had same problem since I improperly installed over windows ntfs partition [10:00] think it thought I was trying to dual boot or something [10:00] ye [10:01] only this was when pclinuxos was installed previously [10:01] not windwos [10:01] but same thing [10:07] just do it manually, specify which is / directory, tell it format all them, and set it to 512 swap :) [10:08] ye that failed as well [10:09] it could not create ext3 on the partition i chose [10:09] for some fubar reason [10:12] btw, i cant set it to format swap partition, but thats normal innit ? === cybane [n=cybane@cpe-75-185-73-189.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [10:14] Anyone ever used an SD card with the TI7xx1 cardreader with xubuntu? [10:17] finally, the installer is getting on :) [10:18] cybane: most SD card readers are hard to get working on linux but I have one in my lappy never got working, do you know where I could check to see if its possible to use it for something? [10:19] all my card readers work [10:20] I dont know what kind it is [10:20] 8 in 1 [10:20] mine works on laptop though === ctp [n=Chris@brsg-d9becbc5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:25] I bought one of those dv9000t from hp [10:25] so far its been fine, just that damn sd card reader [10:26] I was hoping to get it working since my mother has this old digital camera that gtkcam can't get working because of its proprietary usb interface [10:27] vmware maybe ? [10:30] for the cam i mean === foxcrow [n=foxcrow@c-76-19-7-54.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:32] anyone got any idea why firefox refuses to "remember my password (read: accept the cookie) from hotmail when i choose "keep my name and password" as a login option ? [10:32] ive got accept all cookies on === foxcrow [n=foxcrow@c-76-19-7-54.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu ["Konversation] [10:33] logmein: I check teh intarwebs === jeans4yonda [n=dave@CPE-124-190-208-242.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #xubuntu [10:37] Kjellviz: hmm do you have a master password perhaps? [10:38] logmein: its not the firefox option im trying to use [10:38] Kjellviz: oh don't let cookies handle your logins let firefox do it [10:38] logmein: when logging in, i can choose to stay logged in [10:38] but i wish to let cookies do it [10:38] ^^ [10:39] Kjellviz: what for? you just gonna get hacked by weird flash java exploits [10:39] i want to be autologged in when i open the link [10:39] sure, im not to worried about that [10:39] if they wanna hack they are welcome to steal my spam >< [10:40] Kjellviz: hmm well if firefox can remember the login information there might be a way to get it to send extra option of enter button [10:40] Kjellviz: nah that's how you get spam :P [10:40] firefox does remember it (after using a little hack) === highvolt1ge [n=highvolt@196.1.61.41] has joined #xubuntu [10:45] logmein: allrite, got xubuntu installed on the laptop now [10:46] now begins the fun part [10:46] getting wireless up n running =( [10:46] what card is it though [10:46] linksys [10:46] ah crap [10:46] but as sais [10:46] said* [10:47] I had bad run in with linksys wireless card when I was first getting into linux [10:47] i got it working using ndiswrapper and win driver in pclos [10:47] ok but what does lspci report about it? [10:48] broadcom bcm4318 [10:48] can you give me the exact line output? [10:48] ok sec === kjellvi1 [n=bex@c213-89-100-240.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #xubuntu [10:50] 07:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) [10:50] ooh interesting [10:50] thats it [10:50] really ? [10:50] ^^ [10:51] http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,list_b/ read the second listing 2. [10:51] ye [10:51] I'd still suggest grabbing latest ndiswrapper even though that tester didn't, lot of fixes on performance [10:52] well i was just about to [10:52] but compiling aint exactly my cup of tea >< [10:53] was hoping there was a .deb for it hehe [10:53] oh trust me compiling it is the easy way lol [10:53] it will be when i understand the concept of it [10:53] I must have screwed up in every way imaginable then I got wireless going on my brothers laptop in under a minute [10:53] bout now im just copy/pasting commands [10:54] just ./configure make sudo su make install [10:54] sudo su ? [10:54] read the install or readme text file though just to make sure [10:54] yeah gives you root prompt [10:54] ok [10:55] instead of typing sudo for dozen of commands [10:55] most beginners don't know what requires root privs so report errors about it that is why most refer to a command as sudo inclined [10:56] that last sentence was greek to me >< [10:56] ohhh off to a good start [10:56] errormessage during unpacking the tar.bz [10:57] just my kind of luck [10:57] Kjellviz: right click it and choose extract here [10:57] there are millions of text commands to uncompress something so I never bother [10:58] oh and for starts you might want zip, cabextract, rar, 7z compression formulas added [10:58] so you don't have to figure out why something won't extract later on [10:58] ok ? [10:59] is it needed for this install ? [11:00] most likely not [11:00] yeah those files aren't zipped [11:00] ok then its not needed =P [11:00] suit yourself [11:01] when i get online [11:01] im done [11:01] thats all i need on this comp [11:01] okie dokie then [11:02] Kjellviz: this looks pretty kool for web browsing https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4521 [11:03] blah pastebin is fubar, got a alternative ? [11:04] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ [11:04] ubuntu's private finest pastebin at your disposal :P [11:04] =D [11:05] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24969/ === cybane [n=cybane@cpe-75-185-73-189.columbus.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] === kjellvi1 [n=bex@c213-89-100-240.bredband.comhem.se] has left #xubuntu [] === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h90n5c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #xubuntu === kjellvi1 [n=bex@c213-89-100-240.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #xubuntu [11:27] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24972/ === Dr`Maison [n=fred@lns-bzn-49f-62-147-164-174.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu === alleweder [n=pe1prx@s5593edaa.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #xubuntu [11:35] i having a weard problem with xubuntu, when i open a terminal screen i get logout. [11:36] command line is a basic ellement i would like to use. [11:42] alleweder: Is that launching from the menu? Have you tried launching Terminal from alt+f2? Can you get a virtual console, ctrl+alt+f1? [11:44] mmmm i just found out that if i lok at the add software, there is not the therminal installed. [11:44] looks like defautl there is not a terminal in the menu. === alleweder [n=pe1prx@s5593edaa.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #xubuntu [11:46] mmm i got kicked off again grazie. [11:46] so alt f2 is not realy working. :-) [11:47] :( [11:47] i am now working on the add/remove applications. [11:47] ctrl+alt+f1? [11:47] and there i can add the terminal. ( very weard that it is not installed default). [11:49] alleweder: there was a bug in xubuntu terminal that make it kill X on some intel cards [11:50] ok thanks TheSheep. in my system there is indeed a intel video card. [11:50] i am using a old Dell GX150 system to make a small home server. [11:51] http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/06/05/build_your_own_server/1 [11:51] TheSheep: can you show me more of that bug? my friend was going to try out xubuntu and he uses an intel card [11:51] THis was the artical that did give some inspiration to me. [11:52] alleweder: been trying to search launchpad for quite a while, but it looks like it's on a go slow :( [11:54] sorry grazie i do not get your remark, [11:54] do you mean that you do have a problem installing ?. [11:56] ctrl+alt+f1 is working ok [11:57] logmein: bug #114124 [11:57] Launchpad bug 114124 in xfce4-terminal "Xubuntu 7.04 xserver crashes when launching terminal" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114124 [11:57] TheSheep: alrighty thx [12:01] thanks, this is indeed the bug i have. === alleweder [n=pe1prx@s5593edaa.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B95F08.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === alleweder [n=pe1prx@s5593edaa.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #xubuntu === AlexC_ [n=AlexC@dragnet2034196173.dragnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === AlexC_ is now known as AlexC === kmindi [n=noname@dslb-088-064-150-149.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #xubuntu === alleweder [n=pe1prx@s5593edaa.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #xubuntu [12:47] ok this sound maybe as a stupid question, but how do i run the gnome2 terminal once i have it installed ?. [12:48] alleweder: gnome-terminal [12:48] brb [01:00] xub xub! [01:00] :) [01:05] i want xubuntu to automatically log on to a default user on boot, where can i find the settings for that ? [01:06] Kjellviz: system->login window settings === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu [01:08] TheSheep: cannot find that, but ive installed swedish language (but cant see anything that resembles that in swedish) [01:18] forget, got it sorted === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === logmein [n=logmein@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === teThys [n=jfranji@85.10.56.77] has joined #xubuntu === logmein [n=logmein@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:51] I applied this theme to xubuntu but now webpages look like crap http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2007061003483qd4.png how do I fix that? === logmein [n=logmein@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:21] well bye peoples I gotta go kick some ass on tremulous :) [02:21] but before I go... [02:21] xub xub! (^_^) 'O [02:26] whats the "gedit" command in xubuntu ? [02:27] Kjellviz: ??? [02:27] Kjellviz: what is the gedit command? [02:27] command for graphically editing a file [02:27] its gedit in ubuntu [02:27] gnome edit i guess [02:28] forget i remember now, its mousepad [02:29] what do you need that from the command line? [02:29] i needed to edit xorg.conf [02:29] and fastest way is just opening it from terminal yes [02:31] nano xorg.conf [02:31] that's faster then mousepad or gedit [02:32] how come thats faster ? [02:32] takes less time to open nano than gedit or mousepad [02:33] ok [02:35] thanks for the tip [02:36] or if you can handle: vi [02:37] nah had issues with vi [02:37] :P [02:38] vi is also too complicated for my simple mind [02:38] but it's supposed to be one of the most powerful and efficient editors [02:39] lol [02:39] im trying to download internet explorer === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:40] and it asks me to validate my os version [02:40] roflol [02:40] iiiieeeks === wheels3572 [n=wheels@dsl-69-50-51-206.pivot.net] has joined #xubuntu === wheels3572 [n=wheels@dsl-69-50-51-206.pivot.net] has joined #xubuntu === Kjellviz [n=opera@c213-89-100-240.bredband.comhem.se] has left #xubuntu [] === Kjellviz [n=opera@c213-89-100-240.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #xubuntu === Kjellviz [n=opera@c213-89-100-240.bredband.comhem.se] has left #xubuntu [] === usuario [n=usuario@200-127-212-91.cab.prima.net.ar] has joined #xubuntu === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #xubuntu === chaky [n=chaky@unaffiliated/chaky] has joined #xubuntu === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@216-107-0-212-dhcp.nni.com] has joined #xubuntu === Sergo [n=SpawN@195.22.243.10] has joined #xubuntu === Sergo [n=SpawN@195.22.243.10] has left #xubuntu [] === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === GrueTamer [n=tg@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === chaky [n=chaky@unaffiliated/chaky] has joined #xubuntu === logmein [n=logmein@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:52] my xfce theme still bugging out my browser, any ideas as to how to make firefox load different buttons and search bars? === aubade [n=aubade@oh-67-77-19-158.dyn.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:03] aubade: hi === aubade_ [n=aubade@oh-67-77-22-244.dyn.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === logmein [n=logmein@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@216-107-0-212-dhcp.nni.com] has joined #xubuntu === Hekos [n=Hekos@unaffiliated/Hekos] has joined #xubuntu [05:30] hi, did a fresh install, the panel wont show up [05:30] live cd also without panel === Amon-san [n=Amon@194.29.236.67] has joined #xubuntu [05:34] Hekos, which panel does not show up? [05:36] no panel [05:36] xfce4-panel [05:36] have to run it manualy every boot [05:45] herm [05:45] then it would appear that it is just not set to auto-load.... === Amon-san [n=Amon@194.29.236.67] has joined #xubuntu [05:46] downloaded the latest iso today [05:47] Hekos: clear the ~/.cache/sessions [05:47] did you disable the "Save Session for Future Logins" or logout using a method other then the "Quit" app? [05:47] TheSheep, your too fast for me [05:47] =] [05:48] vidd_laptop: I just got home [05:48] well, seems wierd that it does the same on live cd [05:48] yeah...one glance, and BANG instant answer [most likely the correct one] ! [05:49] vidd_laptop: for every release, there is like 4 or 5 most common problems with ready solutions [05:49] Hekos, there was probably some issue with the live cd loading the autoload of the panel...and that was passed on when you installed [05:50] ok [05:50] nice, googleearth in the repos :) [05:51] TheSheep, in gutsy? [05:52] cuzz i dont see it in fiesty [05:52] vidd_laptop: yes [05:52] vidd_laptop: and user-mode-linux [05:52] user-mode? [05:53] vidd_laptop: linux kernel that runs in user mode, like normal application [05:54] interesting....user-mode-linux-doc is in fiesty repo, but not the app! [05:54] what kernel is gutsy using? [05:55] TheSheep, works, ty =) [05:55] vidd_laptop: so far 2.6.22 [05:58] point 02 better then fiesty === vidd_laptop wonders why they dont keep the kernel up to date on the stable relieases [06:00] vidd_laptop: because they'd have to test everything from start [06:00] vidd_laptop: and that would basically be a new release [06:00] really? [06:00] just for a kernel upgrade? [06:00] vidd_laptop: kernel+modules+init scripts+udev [06:01] ah....basically "everything the distro is built on" [06:01] vidd_laptop: plus a bunch of things depending on the modules, like graphics drivers for X, scanners, printers, tablets === rastal [n=samuelig@cm-81-9-140-38.telecable.es] has joined #xubuntu [06:02] have you noticed that the live cd almost always has more issues then the alt? [06:03] and is that because more ppl use it, or because there are more things that CAN go wrong? [06:03] vidd_laptop: that's because it has less testers -- most users just upgrade their existing installations [06:03] hrm.... === vidd_laptop always tests the altcd [06:04] i dont like the look&feel of the live...plus the overhead is annoying [06:08] yeah, a really light livecd would be nice === vidd_laptop would like a "live CLI" disk [06:11] =] === cheeseboy [n=cheesebo@71-87-213-83.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:12] hi [06:13] welcome cheeseboy === Qew [n=qew@82-69-126-225.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [06:13] can anyone tell me if my linksys wpc300n wireless card will work in xubuntu before i install? [06:13] before you install....hard to tell.... [06:13] do you have the live cd? === CyBBaH [n=cybbah@88-149-169-214.f5.ngi.it] has joined #xubuntu [06:14] no i dont want to waste my only cd [06:14] i know it wont work right away [06:14] do you know what kind of chipset it uses? [06:14] does it use the bcm43xx chipset? [06:14] is there any way to check on windows? [06:15] not that im awareof [06:15] let me do some checking for you..... [06:15] kk thnx [06:16] there is a list of supported hardware on the wiki, I think, and on the forum [06:16] i 99% sure it wont work right away [06:17] cheeseboy, if worse comes to worse.. you can always us ndiswrapper [06:17] *use [06:17] you have a wired network card right? [06:17] wireless [06:17] no ethernet port [06:17] =/ [06:18] so i need the deb to put on my pendrive [06:18] then it will be difficult....but NOT impossible [06:18] we can help get you through it once everything is installed [06:18] i have another pc so can u walk me through it? [06:19] absolutely.... [06:19] kk thnx [06:19] i recomend you use the alt cd rather then the live cd for installing [06:19] where i get that? [06:20] same page you get the live...just scroll down [06:21] ok === vidd_laptop is off to lunch.... [06:22] gonna be about 1/ hr to dl [06:22] 1/2* [06:22] thats ok...my lunch break is only half an hour [06:22] =] === aroo_ [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === JuanTelez [n=juanchis@226-212-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #xubuntu === slow-motion [n=JohnDoe@p5B06CA26.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === Hekos [n=Hekos@unaffiliated/Hekos] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:43] hallo [06:43] eyy [06:44] hi === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === Dr`Maison [n=fred@lns-bzn-49f-62-147-164-174.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu === [EG] EndeR [n=user@pool-141-154-49-188.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:52] <[EG] EndeR> hi there [06:52] <[EG] EndeR> I have a question [06:53] <[EG] EndeR> I am running xubuntu and I want to get the pictures from my Canon Powershot S2 [06:53] <[EG] EndeR> xubuntu does not seem to automatically detect the camera [06:53] <[EG] EndeR> any suggestions? === kmindi[1] [n=noname@dslb-088-065-168-192.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #xubuntu === kmindi[1] is now known as kmindi === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === [EG] EndeR [n=user@pool-141-154-49-188.bos.east.verizon.net] has left #xubuntu [] [06:59] vidd_laptop, u there? [06:59] yes.... im on a call right now.... [07:00] kk i just finshed dling cd [07:01] cool [07:02] could somebody please tell what is the program to config a dial up conection that comes whit Xubuntu? === s|k [n=bjorn@ip70-171-201-121.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:03] JuanTelez, sudo network-admin [07:05] vidd_laptop, can i refresh hardware dection w/o reboot? [07:06] cause i hadda plugh my cd drive in [07:06] yes...but im not sure how.... [07:07] :( [07:08] my stuff is usually auto-detected and auto-loaded when i plug it in [07:08] put a disk in the drive...the contents should autoload [07:08] vidd_laptop: thanks, actualy I don't use Xubuntu [07:10] vidd_laptop: I'm trying to help a friend, but he is even more newbie than me [07:11] JuanTelez, is HE using xubuntu? [07:11] vidd_laptop: vidd_laptop yes === cheatersrealm [i=[U2FsdGV@centaur.acm.jhu.edu] has joined #xubuntu [07:11] what is the command line name for the cd burner that thunar invokes by default? [07:11] then on his computer, go to the command line, and type sudo network-admin [07:12] vidd_laptop: I will like to see some screenshots of the program [07:12] vidd_laptop: thats why I ask the name of the program [07:12] the name of the app is "network-sdmin" [07:12] *admin [07:12] thanks again vidd_laptop === cheeseboy1 [n=cheesebo@71-87-213-83.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:17] vidd_laptop, burnin cd now [07:17] cool [07:17] when you first run it, immediately check the disk for errors [07:18] :( [07:18] theres gonna be a fewerrors [07:19] not necessarily...just ALWAYS good practice [07:20] the cds scrached up a lil [07:20] but always worksfine === Jester45 [n=ryan@d35-8.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu [07:36] vidd_laptop, now installing === hvralpha [n=hvralpha@dsl-242-245-190.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #xubuntu === hvralpha [n=hvralpha@dsl-242-245-190.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #xubuntu ["Kopete] [07:49] vidd_laptop, craplots of errors [07:49] :( [07:49] what kind of errors? [07:50] all stuf to do w/ debootstrap [07:51] that should be ok (i think) [07:51] what happened when you ran the "check cd"? [07:52] i dint [07:52] nethered be errors [07:52] heh.... [07:53] did the disk load to the menu screen? [07:53] and i have no othercds :( [07:53] yes [07:53] and you did NOT choose "check cd"? [07:53] yep [07:54] reboot and choose "check cd" [07:54] is there a utility to convert the hex in wine debugging output to readable text [07:54] vidd_laptop: whats up man long time no see [07:54] magic_ninja, not much...just got my serverbox co-located [07:54] www.vidd.us [07:55] vidd_laptop, how long it take? [07:55] depends on your system === cheatersrealm [i=[U2FsdGV@centaur.acm.jhu.edu] has left #xubuntu [] [07:56] its old [07:56] p3 128mb ram [07:56] nice site === _aussieman [n=bobo@eu85-85-40-141.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #xubuntu === vidd_laptop is on a call === adam0509 [n=benoit@stc92-1-82-227-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:00] cheeseboy1, you ARE running the alt cd....right? [08:04] yes [08:05] good...cuzz i dont think the live can run with that little ram [08:06] vidd_laptop, will it be slow wen its installed? [08:07] no...not really [08:07] the cd failed check [08:07] wat can i do [08:07] ? [08:09] you will need to get a cd to pass the check [08:09] i only have 1 cd :( === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:13] vidd_laptop, if i burn cd slower it be better? [08:14] yes...the slower the better [08:14] kk ill burn a 1x [08:16] :( has to be 4x === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.216.55.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:17] we got ne wineaholics in the house [08:17] i'm seriously stumped [08:18] ? [08:20] im getting an unhandle exception fault and Im trying to figure out what the Export ntdll or export kernel32 etc mean in the error message [08:20] so I can determine whats causing the page fault [08:22] mabye a program that converts the hex in the output into readable stuff === Chikubu [i=Chikubu@205.163.99.131] has joined #xubuntu [08:23] hey, im working on installing xubuntu on an older box, when i boot live cd, some of the shell isnt loading, notable the part that puts a task bar at top and bottom and part that lets you pick applications, how can i manualy start it? [08:24] Chikubu: alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel' [08:25] Chikubu: if you have less than 192MB ram, the installation will fail, better use the alternate cd [08:25] have 192 [08:26] chikubu see if this helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=313406 [08:26] how do i start the gui? i have a desktop with icons but no task bar or application selection [08:26] its for ubuntu but will work fine with xubuntu [08:27] Chikubu: alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel' [08:28] I have no idea why i'm banned in #winehq, i havn't talked in that channel for like a month [08:28] thats what i needed :) thnx [08:29] if its a post script printer, it should work easily in linux correcT? [08:30] mabye someone on your same isp was banned and you got included [08:32] hwy when i use gparted to delete partions, it seems to delete but puts a pendeing operation at bottom? is it working on deleting? thought it was pretty much instantaneous [08:34] Chikubu: no, any operations you perform need to be 'applied' [08:34] Chikubu: that's because they cannot be reverted [08:34] ok i see [08:35] idiot proffing :) [08:36] man this has been such a huge fight [08:36] a bad memory stick cause me so much greif ugg === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:38] well it runs slow from live cd, but runs! im encouraged, wsant sure box was fast enough [08:39] because the [08:40] vidd_laptop, seems to have burned ok this time :) [08:40] ok.... [08:40] yeah...older machines cant read disks that are bruned at or faster then thy can read === _aussieman- [n=bobo@eu85-85-40-141.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #xubuntu [08:41] if that makes sense.... [08:41] i cleaned it too [08:41] was a lil dusty [08:41] like if you have a cdrom that only reads at 32x, and you burn a disk @ 64x, that 32 speed cdrom drive wont be able to read it [08:42] hrm === vidd_laptop will be back in like 10 minutes....the install should go fine [08:42] which is why I burn everything at 4 [08:42] me too BFTD [08:43] never know when i want to stick my disk in any old piece [08:43] =] [08:43] that sounded perverted [08:43] brb [08:46] well the cd is still blinking, thats a good sign [08:48] I have my wifi card working perfectly with ndiswrapper, but I have to set it all up each time at boot, is there anyway to get it to work on boot? [08:49] i dont know enuff about linux to help sorry, but seems you could put it in startup with command line options [08:50] vidd_laptop, still error but theresl ess [08:50] less [08:50] * [08:52] im back [08:53] what error ou get? [08:54] somtin wascorrupt [08:54] the install option from live cd, does it compile something, its taking forever, even on this turtle [08:54] that turtle anyway [08:54] cheeseboy1, how old is the box? [08:56] Chikubu, no compileing [08:56] hmm wonder what its doing [08:56] the cd is still blinking, but system is so sluggish mouse takes minute to move [08:56] how much ram does the machine have [08:56] vidd_laptop, a coupleyears [08:56] 192 [08:56] but its a 486 [08:57] get vidd_laptop im back [08:57] came out around 2000 i think [08:57] well thats why with 192 it barely has the ram to run the live cd [08:57] ok, i dont mind it taking along time, as long is its not dead [08:58] cheeseboy1, if anything get the installer to format the disc and then you will have swap space and that will make it faster [08:58] ack, lol i delete the swap space to the install would auto allocate what it wanted [08:58] from a previous failed attempt === yknott [n=yknott@h75-100-217-166.75-100.unk.tds.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:59] hopefully ill get it installed === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === jikuty [i=em@CPE001195752c87-CM00111ade8af2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === rastal [n=samuelig@cm-81-9-140-38.telecable.es] has joined #xubuntu === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:25] ...cd still blinking :) [09:29] okm,the screen went blank, but cd still blinking...does live cd have screen saver or power saver turned on? [09:30] nm its back, mustve been screen saver === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h90n5c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:35] vidd_laptop, i hope ur still around when install finishes :( [09:37] im here === yknott [n=yknott@h75-100-217-166.75-100.unk.tds.net] has left #xubuntu ["Konversation] === g3k [n=geoff@cpe-65-185-66-227.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === g3k [n=geoff@cpe-65-185-66-227.neo.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] [09:40] vidd_laptop, base system installed ok halfway through software [09:40] cool === alleweder [n=pe1prx@s5593edaa.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #xubuntu [] [09:49] vidd_laptop, [09:50] vidd_laptop, its takin forever at xubuntu docs that normal? [09:50] yes [09:50] kk [09:57] ugg i clicked the realese notes and its been 15 minutes, cd still blinking === luisbg [n=d33p@205.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #xubuntu [09:58] is there a keyboard command to bring up a process list? [09:58] vidd_laptop, ugh i cant get this installed:( [09:59] you get an error? [09:59] yes [10:00] i need network to install this [10:00] what error [10:00] corrupt file [10:01] vidd_laptop, can i get internet working in a shell or somtin? [10:01] cheeseboy1, yes.... [10:01] retry install with command line only [10:02] kk cause then i get corrupted files from internet right? [10:02] well....no corrupted...but yeah [10:03] i wish this pc booted dvds :( [10:04] i have 100+ of those === rastal [n=samuelig@cm-81-9-140-38.telecable.es] has left #xubuntu [] === GrueTamer [n=tg@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === R[a] ndom [n=random@bas9-toronto01-1242393048.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu === AtomicSpaceKrake [n=jon@stott1.demon.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === ubufan [n=ubufan@pD9ECA12B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu [10:47] vidd_laptop, u there? [10:47] im here [10:48] im in command line system === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.216.212.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:49] ok....you want to run lspci [10:49] kk [10:50] find the item about your wireless network card.... [10:50] what does it say? [10:52] for network: [10:53] broadcom corporation BCM43XG (rev 01) [10:53] ok...as i expected...it is a broadcom 43xx card [10:54] kk [10:54] on my downloads page, get http://www.vidd.us/downloads/bcm43xx-fwcutter_20060501-5_i386.deb [10:55] you will also need the the firmware.... [10:55] where i get that? [10:57] ill get that === b52GM [n=b52GM@41.249.250.195] has joined #xubuntu [10:58] hi [10:58] one noob question please for enabling X distant connection true ssh i just need to change the XForward value in ssh_config ? [10:59] http://boredklink.googlepages.com/wl_apsta.o [10:59] of do i need soemthing else ? === aroo_ [n=aroo@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [11:03] How do I install custom xfce themes? Do I need to extract them somewhere special? [11:04] vidd_laptop, whatscommand to mount my pendrive ? [11:04] from the command lin...i dont know === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h90n5c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #xubuntu === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h90n5c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA is now known as BFTD [11:14] BFTD, can you help cheeseboy1 mount his pen drive ? [11:14] he is in CLI only [11:14] sweet [11:14] BFTD, its only temporary.... [11:15] oh [11:15] until he gets his wifi on line and downloads the desktop [11:15] cheeseboy1 "ls /media" [11:15] getting his card to work is no problem [11:15] then can you help him with that too? [11:16] sure [11:16] cuzz i need to go home in like 10 minutes [11:16] i already pointed him to the fw cutter and the firmware [11:16] how i manually mount fat32 pendrive ?? [11:16] cheeseboy1 can you get internet to your comp for a few min's so that you can install the drivers for your card? [11:16] no [11:17] need pendrive [11:17] how i mount it? [11:17] BFTD, no...he has the files on his pendrive [11:17] installing fwcutter will automaticly install the drivers [11:17] oh [11:17] dang thats like the hard way to do it but ok [11:17] anyways [11:17] +} [11:17] cheeseboy1 run this command [11:18] ls /media [11:18] and post what it says [11:18] 1 2 3 cdrom cdrom0 samba sdb1 [11:18] i createdall those tho [11:18] ? [11:18] when? [11:18] i hve to mount things manually on this pc [11:18] what version? [11:18] but i forgot how [11:19] ?? [11:19] fiesty? [11:20] cheeseboy1, are you running 7.04? [11:20] ya but server [11:20] ok [11:20] ls /media/sdb1 [11:21] cheeseboy1, BFTD is goint to help from here.... === vidd_laptop has to go home from work..... [11:21] l8rs [11:21] BFTD nothing [11:21] i need to mount manually [11:21] wats thje command? === ramla [n=ramla@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fe02fb00-88.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #xubuntu === Crutch_Fu [n=adam@CPE-67-48-74-163.neb.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [11:22] sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 [11:22] or [11:22] sudo -a mount === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [11:24] BFTD its not sdb1 i for get which device it is [11:24] oh [11:25] well [11:25] try sdc1 sdd1 sde1 and sdf1 [11:25] one of those should work [11:26] no [11:27] ? [11:27] is it plugged in? [11:29] yes [11:30] dfc-h [11:30] oops [11:30] df h [11:30] argh [11:30] df -h === Crutch_Fu [n=adam@CPE-67-48-74-163.neb.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] [11:31] ??? [11:32] BFTD: df only shows info about mounted devices [11:32] ill put files on pendrive in wwindows [11:33] yeah [11:50] BFTD u there? [11:58] help ??? === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === vidd [n=vidd@static-72-86-132-125.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:04] cheeseboy1, what ya need [12:06] getmy wirelee card to work [12:07] i dont know how to do wireless... i always found it to slow [12:07] cheeseboy1, where you stuck at? [12:08] its not working [12:08] pcmcia? [12:08] is it all installed? [12:08] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear [12:08] i did that [12:08] wtch var/log/messages when you plug in.. [12:08] if pcmcia [12:09] ya pcmia [12:10] so wat i do ??? [12:10] when you "sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o" did you replace ~/Desktop/ with the path on your usb drive that had the wl_apsta.o file? [12:11] yes [12:11] did you run modprobe bcm43xx ? [12:11] yes === Catoptromancy_ [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:11] did you reboot? [12:12] yes [12:12] did you set up /etc/network/interfaces? [12:12] no [12:13] ah...that is why.... [12:13] because i dont know what device name is [12:13] wen i do ifconfig -a only lo is listed [12:13] then type iwconfig [12:14] i think it would be wlan0 right? [12:14] ony lo afgain === Naughtyboy [n=Naughtyb@135.217.95.91.static.ter-s.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:14] lo should not show up when you do iwconfig [12:14] only wireless devices should show [12:15] says lo no wireless extebsions [12:15] hrm.... [12:16] it should be listed as eth0 [12:16] but it isnt [12:16] heck ..a bloody broadcom card [12:17] cheeseboy1, then follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty [12:18] What's the command to open another terminal from the default terminal? [12:18] use the instructions for setting up with ndiswrapper.... [12:18] I'd use xterm but I like the default xubuntu terminal better [12:18] aroo: xfce4-terminal& === vidd will get you the .deb for ndiswrapper.... [12:19] Thanks much [12:19] could make a wireless floppy [12:20] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.43-1ubuntu1_i386.deb [12:20] both nids.debs and my drivers fit on floppy [12:20] ndis is also on feisty CD [12:20] cheeseboy1, use the cd then.... [12:21] sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper [12:21] in /pool/ something [12:23] ugh this is such a pain :( [12:25] yes it is