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draikmain2: I'm restarting right now12:14
Sloikzipper: kdesu12:14
xerosisdarksoul: kdesu for kde12:14
xerosisoops, too slow12:14
SloikHeheh :P12:15
zipperSloik: ah yes, thanks. I never use the graphical sudo's12:15
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AFaithneah... it doesn't work at all12:15
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FreeSurferSalut all12:16
main2dA!! it rains so hard here12:16
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AFaithbig thanks zipper & fdoving!12:16
zipperAFaith: the code i gave you? Sure it does. You sure you're not doing something wrong?12:16
draikmain2: Logging in... cross your fingers....12:16
main2feels like the drops are comming trough mywindow in a second12:16
AFaithFreeSurfer: Romania ?12:16
main2draik, i do :)12:16
FreeSurfer^^ french12:16
AFaithzipper: maybe .. i don't know :P i'm to tired to think now :))12:16
FreeSurferwhy romania?12:16
AFaithFreeSurfer: because salut means hello in Romanian ;)12:17
draikmain2: what does the "pci=assign-busses" command do?12:17
zipperAFaith: no offence, but i think you are, cus' i tested it before pasting it.12:17
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zipperAFaith: doesnt it mean "hello" in french as well?12:17
draikmain2: :(12:17
FreeSurferin french hello mean "bonjour" ou "salut"12:17
main2draik, from what i was reading, it looked like your system is using a yenta card bus12:18
zipperou?12:18
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KartiHi, could someone tell me how to rename a folder and hide it in a command line? I have #mv Personal ./Personal but that does not work......any ideas..cheers12:18
FreeSurferor12:18
zipperah12:18
FreeSurferscuse me ^^ , in french "hello" mean "bonjour" or "salut"12:18
main2draik, but from other things i read (google..), it seems to be an ALI based chipset12:18
zipperFreeSurfer: no worries, i think i got it :).12:19
tyronhi im having problems with my apt-get command can anyone help?12:19
main2draik, http://www.google.nl/search?q=linux+n5150+cardbus&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a12:19
draikmain2: So what does that mean?12:19
zippertyron: just state your question12:19
main2you see.. first result is yenta bla bla.. but let me search a bit further12:19
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FreeSurfertyron give the error12:19
tyroni get this error when try ti instrall something?12:19
zipperDemonSamurai: no, you cannot. Ask inhere instead, there are more people to help you here12:19
tyronE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.12:19
zippertyron: tried manually runnning "dpkg --configure -a" ?12:20
Grahamtyron: Guess what you do :)12:20
FreeSurferand when you enter dpkg --configure -a'?12:20
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AFaithno problem FreeSurfer! i've tought that i've finally met romanian people here :P12:20
provals12:20
FreeSurferok ok12:20
main2draik,   40.579973]  Yenta: CardBus bridge found at 0000:00:04.0 [103c:0014] 12:20
FreeSurferHello all12:20
main2you do have a yenta.............12:20
FreeSurferlol12:20
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DemonSamurai!ntfs12:21
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse12:21
Admiral_ChicagoAFaith: yes12:21
main2draik, insert that netgear after using pci=assign-busses12:21
main2then dmesg12:21
draikmain2: Right, but what does it mean from Yenta to ALI?12:21
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main2put it on pastebin.ca12:21
FreeSurferim sorry i'm very french12:21
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main2forget what i said about ALI, seems to be wrong info12:21
tyronok it worked this time12:21
zipperFreeSurfer: how do one become _very_ french? :)12:21
DemonSamurai!fuse12:21
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse12:21
draikmain2: Let me get this straight...12:21
cicaspls12:21
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draikmain2: Restart without card in slot. Login, insert card. Run DMESG, then post on pastebin. Correct?12:22
tyronMB of updates i started to install it failed and said something else using proccess keeps saying that12:22
zippertyron: next time, try spending a little more time readin the error description. Unlike windows, linux usually gives you usefull information.12:22
main2yes, but make sure you use pci=assign-busses12:22
main2:duh:12:22
zippertyron: reading*12:22
AFaithhello Admiral_Chicago! i'm using Gaim now and i wanna add you, BluesKaj and another people that helped me in my friends list12:22
AFaithdo you want that ?12:23
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draikmain2: How do I make sure I'm using it? I just added it to my kernel line12:23
AFaithbefore a really go to bed12:23
wsjuniorcould anybody help me with fglrx and tv-out?12:23
[agatha] evening... guys i have lost the menu button in kde...12:23
AFaithi wanna show zipper & fdoving something : http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/helloworld.html have a look and tell me you oppinion :P12:23
main2draik, ok hope you did it properly :)12:23
tyronsorry my adept updater keeps saying something else is using the process? i have rebooted and nothing open to use it?12:24
main2draik, you are doing it properly .. just continue, get me the pastbin.. :P :D12:24
draikmain2: But should it be busses or buses?12:24
main2draik, i fished this out of your dmesg, thats fine =) > [17179569.184000]  Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash pci=assign_busses12:24
timdi just mounted my windows drive to /mnt/windows but it says i don't have rights, what is the right chown command so i can access the files?12:24
KartiNever mind the answer is # mv Personal .Personal12:24
main2wait12:24
wsjuniorim trying to get tv-out working to watch movies on tv but i plug the svideo cable and nothing happens. i've alread configured my xorg.conf. how could i get some feedback to check whats wrong?!12:24
main2draik: pci=assign-busses12:24
main2how hard can it be :P12:25
draikmain2: Just making sure12:25
main2=)12:25
draikThe correct spelling of busses is buses12:25
draikmain2: restarting.... network card out of the slot12:26
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DemonSamuraiwhat is the command to open fstab?12:26
main2cat /etc/fstab12:26
main2kdesu kate /etc/fstab12:26
main2 :P12:26
wsjuniorthis is my xorg.conf, could anybody help me? http://rafb.net/p/49vtET40.html12:26
main2wsjunior, sup then?12:27
wsjuniorim trying to get tv-out working to watch movies on tv but i plug the svideo cable and nothing happens. i've alread configured my xorg.conf. how could i get some feedback to check whats wrong?!12:27
draikmain2: logging in...12:27
draikmain2: loading up....12:27
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main2yea yea12:27
draikmain2: Let me know when you want me to put in the card12:27
main2now12:27
main2;D12:27
main2when you see the login12:27
wsjuniori googled a lot looking for solutions for this issue but none explain in details12:28
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draikmain2: Should I do it again? I did it now that everything is loaded12:28
main2yeah np :)12:28
main2you can inser/ remove them when you want :)12:28
main2like usb :)12:28
Tm_T!adeptcrashfix | tyron12:28
ubotutyron: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:28
draikOk.12:28
draikI'm in and all12:28
draikWhat do you need now?12:29
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draikmain2: dmesg?12:30
heleneGreets, everyone...12:30
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main2yes12:30
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heleneDoes anyone have any experience setting up an Intel modem? (I already tried the guide suggested by !modem - didn't really get me anywhere.)12:30
draik1 sec12:30
G3NESISI'm a newb and I'm having problems compiling source files can someone help me?12:30
CPrgmSwR2assistance docs are not working12:31
CPrgmSwR2how do I get those working12:31
heleneG3NESIS: What are you trying to install?12:31
wsjuniorplease, could anybody help me to configure tvout with ati card using fglrx driver? this is my xorg.conf -> http://rafb.net/p/49vtET40.html12:31
G3NESISFirst I tried installing xchat because I had other problems.12:31
G3NESISI got a c cannot compile executables error.12:31
heleneCPrgmSwR2: You mean when you press F1 in an application, it just says "no documentation available"?12:31
AFaithgood night people12:32
AFaiththanks for those who helped me12:32
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heleneG3NESIS: Have you already made sure what you're trying to install isn't in the repositories?12:32
tyronubotu: i did that and still geting this error now  - There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.12:32
DemonSamurai!wine12:32
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.12:32
G3NESISI've also tried installing pidgin.12:32
helenetyron: ubotu's a bot. ;-)12:32
draikmain2: http://pastebin.ca/55726612:32
CPrgmSwR2This is strictly with KDevelop12:32
G3NESISI got past that error by installing lib_6 libraries.12:32
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main2draik, [  128.207668]  pccard: CardBus card inserted into slot 112:33
G3NESISThen it gave me an error about pkg config12:33
heleneG3NESIS: HAVE YOU ALREADY CHECKED THE REPOSITORIES FOR WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO INSTALL?12:33
main2draik, can you pastebin: ifconfig12:33
main2?12:33
draikno prob12:33
main2sudo ifconfig > output.txt12:33
G3NESISI did,12:33
G3NESISNo pidgin,12:33
Tm_Thelene: krhm12:33
heleneok. :-)12:33
G3NESISand the gaim installer doesnt work.12:33
wsjuniorfor the love of god, could anybody help me to configure tv-out for ati xpress 200m using fglrx driver? lol12:33
heleneG3NESIS: Just install Gaim through Adept12:33
tyronok..well anyone else then?12:34
draikmain2: No IP addresses or such... but here goes12:34
helenewsjunior: I think there might be a special package for the tv-out's on ATI cards. Try searching Adept for "ati tv"12:34
G3NESISThe adept installer for gaim doesnt work.12:34
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heleneTm_T: ?12:34
Tm_Thelene: no need for caps12:34
Tm_T(: :)12:35
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heleneTm_T: There is when I'm repeating myself a second time. ;-)12:35
wsjuniorhelene: i've already googled enough :/ nothing explaining in details.. tried to follow some tutorials, just asking here in case someone got it..12:35
Tm_Thelene: then consider not repeating? ;-P12:35
helenewsjunior: I'm not talking about googling. :-)12:35
draikmain2: http://pastebin.ca/55727212:35
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=== Tm_T hugs helene little repeater
wsjuniorhelene: im not talking about packages12:35
main2draik, do you see any devices when you do: sudo iwconfig12:36
main2?12:36
BluesKajyes helene , wsjunior "atitvout" is in the repos ...I see it in synaptic12:36
helenewsjunior: What kind of card do you have?12:36
wsjuniorati xpress 200m12:36
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draikmain2: lo, sit0 and eht1 all say "no wireless extensions"12:36
draikmain2: It's not wireless, though12:36
Tm_TBluesKaj: time for chatter?12:37
main2draik, do you know the exact type of the netgear wifi card?12:37
draikmain2: It's not a wifi12:37
main2normal ethernet!?12:37
heleneNot sure, wsjunior. Sorry12:37
G3NESISOk the gaim installer works now for odd reasons.. but I'm still having problems compiling.12:37
draikyup12:37
heleneCan anyone please help me set up my modem?12:38
main2draik, but the laptop has built in ethernet as well right?12:38
Tm_Thelene: you mean normal dialup12:38
heleneRight12:38
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draikNope, this laptop is 7 years old12:38
heleneTm_T: Already tried the guide from !modem to no avail12:38
main2draik12:38
Tm_Thelene: is kppp familiar?12:38
draikNope, this laptop is 7 years old12:38
main2type: sudo ifconfig eth 192.168.1.10012:38
main2what is your gateway/routers ip?12:39
draikmain2: 19.168.1.112:39
draikSorry12:39
draikmain2: 192.168.1.112:39
main2ok>  sudo ifconfig eth0 up | sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.110 | sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.112:40
main2and you have internet12:40
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main2draik, looks like there's nothing wrong with the card, and > looks like its working, but you need to configure it.. :)12:40
draikmain2: eth0 or eth1?12:40
main2eth112:40
main2sorry12:40
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Drbloodo.o12:41
draikmain2: "route: Host Name lookup failure"12:41
heleneTm_T: It didn't recognize it OotB, so I did "sudo apt-get install sl-modem-daemon sl-modem-source sl-modem-modules" and rebooted, then it "recognized it," but just said "NO CARRIER" when it tries to dial.12:41
main2draik, route add default gw 192.168.1.112:42
main2thats one command huh.............12:42
draikmain2: I typed it in as you gave it...12:42
main2after doing > ifconfig eth1 up12:42
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main2and ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.11012:42
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Tm_Thelene: hmm, now you lost me =)12:42
draikmain2: Got it12:42
main2draik, you should try to ping it: ping 192.168.1.112:42
draikping -c4 192.168.1.112:43
heleneTm_T: So now I've uninstalled sl-modem* and was trying to follow the whole tutorial (I stopped after seeing the kind of modem I have and searching the repo's), but I keep getting errors @ "make"/"sudo make install"12:43
draikmain2: I'M ONLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!12:43
draikmain2: YOU ROCK12:43
main2=)12:43
draikmain2: YOU ARE ROOT12:44
main2g0t r00t?12:44
Tm_Tstop yelling please, it hurts12:44
draikNo, but I got ROOT's help!12:44
heleneTm_T: It's an Intel 82801CA/CAM, if that tells you anything?12:44
Tm_Tnope12:44
draiksorry Tm_T12:44
main2draik, stop screaming, i feel ashamed because we could have this fixed 20min ago :P12:44
draikmain2: Ok, np12:45
draikmain2: Thank you SO much12:45
main2ok draik, to finish it off -> you run dapper right :)12:45
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main2draik, you're welcome, but after a reboot .. it will be not working right away..12:45
main2guys, does dapper have knetworkmanager?12:46
heleneTm_T: Where exactly did I lose you? :-)12:46
main2draik, are you on your desktop?12:46
Tm_Thelene: when you started harware mumbojumbo12:46
draikmain2: Yes, I'm on my desktop.12:46
main2do you see a 'network icon' in the bottom right of your screen? > gently pull the mouse over those icons12:46
draikmain2: I'm running Edgy Eft, not Dapper Drake12:46
main26.10 .. ok, sorry :)12:46
Tm_Thelene: I could understand it, but it would require hour or two I don't have, sorry :/12:47
timdneed help with: "You do not have enough permissions to read file:///dev/sda" I'm trying to make it so i can access files from my windows drive on kubu...and also windows is not showing up in the list when grub starts12:47
heleneTm_T: No problem12:47
draikmain2: Nope12:47
Tm_Thelene: I had my share of carrier issues when fighting with OSX12:47
draikmain2: KMix, Kopete12:48
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draikmain2: That's all I have down there12:48
heleneTm_T: I think I might've just found something on launchpad. Gonna reboot and try again, brb.12:48
main2what is the appropriate way to change the default gateway on dapper/edgy?12:49
main2/etc/network/interfaces .. ok found it12:49
draikmain2: So what do I need to do now?12:50
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main2draik, you need to edit this file .. > /etc/network/interfaces, and make sure that it contains the stuff12:51
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main2im gonna paste in a private message to you12:51
enzo_main2: I'm in12:51
enzo_What do I need?12:51
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letsgoHi I am new to LINUX and had a ? We have an IPOD that we want to download music on how would I go about doing that.  Please help12:55
RawSewage!iPod12:55
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod12:55
letsgoyes12:55
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G3NESISOK.. so forget my compiling problems and move to another one. I tried using the script which allows you to read ntfs partitions and it said "No usable windows/mac partitions found"12:55
letsgothank you12:56
main2=)12:56
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mike__I need help with uploading pictures from my Digital Camera to DigiKam12:57
BluesKajG3NESIS, have you checked system settings /advanced/disc&filesystems12:57
G3NESISIt's ther if thats what your asking.12:58
jriachiin konqueror, can i make control+wheel up to zoom/increase the font?12:58
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BluesKajok G3NESIS12:59
mike__jriachi: Are you asking if you can Increase The FOnt by holding down CTRL and scrolling the wheel?12:59
jriachimike__: right01:00
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mike__Yes you can01:00
mike__atleast, it works for me01:00
G3NESISBlueskaj: Yes.01:00
kjdisDoes anyone know how to get a program to start with X, BEFORE logging in?  I want to run nvtv automatically with X so that TV-out is on and ready, anyone?01:01
jriachithen something is wrong in my setup, because it scrolls instead of increasing the font , mike__ :S01:01
kjdisI can't figure out the system's xinitrc and xsession, neither seemed to work01:01
mike__jriachi: Hmm whats weird01:01
mike__im kinda too busy to look iunto it, but just check settings01:02
G3NESISSo any one have any ideas on my problem?01:02
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mike__G3nesis: Whats your problem?01:02
jriachimike__: ok, i'll let you know if i figure out something? any idea where to start?01:02
G3NESISI tried using the script which allows you to read ntfs partitions and it said "No usable windows/mac partitions found"01:02
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mike__jriachi: umm i would go to Settings and click on Configure01:03
main2hey enzo_ did it work out properly?01:03
enzo_main2: I don't know about you, but I think I'm online :P Thank you01:03
main2yw =)01:03
BluesKajG3NESIS, the script you refer to is "ntfs-config"?01:03
main2so remember for the next time enzo_ all you need to do is configure the eth1 device01:03
enzo_RIght01:03
mike__Jriachi: Go to Settings, "Configure SHortcuts"01:03
main2by adding the gateway to your /etc/network/interfaces01:03
G3NESISDiskmounter01:03
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enzo_I can do so in Network01:03
mike__and scroll through the list to where it says Enlarge Font01:04
main2your cardbus/adapter are working fine =)01:04
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main2enzo_, its really easy01:04
enzo_I would assume so, yes01:04
wackjackwhat's up01:04
BluesKajI get access my windows partition with "ntfs-3g" and "ntfs-config" ...both apps are in the repos01:05
wackjackis there any way to add add/remove packages... for example, I want to install Aptana it's not listed as any apps under Add/Remove programs and All available Applications01:06
wackjack:\01:06
draikwackjack: Be sure the package exists in your repos first "sudo apt-cache search aptana"01:07
BluesKajit may be in the non default repos , wackjack...search for it on google-linux and the associated repos will prolly be there01:07
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draikwackjack: If it does, "sudo apt-get install aptana"01:07
G3NESISBluesKaj: OK. I'll try that.01:08
draikwackjack: If not, do what BluesKaj just told you01:08
XtypeWriter74any midnight commander users or knowhowers around that can help me set vlc player as video player ? here is my /etc/mc/mc.etx --->  http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/11610/01:08
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jriachimike__: ctrl++ /ctrl+- works, but i can't seem to be able to set it to control+wheelup01:10
wackjackwhat is google-linux?01:10
wackjackim sorry that I dont know the terminology - "non default repos" "asociated repos" etc01:11
jriachican anyone tell me if in gimp control+wheelup does zoom in the drawing?01:11
XtypeWriter74here it doesnt01:12
jriachithanks XtypeWriter7401:12
BluesKajgoogle has a search called google-linux wackjack , just look for it01:13
XtypeWriter74np01:13
wackjacki found it01:13
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BluesKajvery handy , wackjack01:14
wackjackhow do I install a package that isnt in the package manager?01:14
wackjackI need the APT address or whatnot?01:14
jriachimike__: i tested it with anoter useraccount, and there control01:15
joe2371Hi. My USB flash drive is automatically mounted when I insert it.  This conflicts with VMPlayer.  How can I prevent the thumbdrive from being automatically mounted?  It isn't even in my fstab.01:15
jriachimike__: i tested it with anoter useraccount, and there control+wheelup works... so it is not a kubuntu problem, but pebkac :)01:15
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ContrastGreets, everyone...01:16
BluesKajBBL, phone01:16
mike__jriachi: Okay so are you gonna just switch accounts?01:17
ContrastCan someone tell me where I can download Edgy?01:17
joe2371Contrast: you're joking, right?01:17
Contrastjoe2371: I wish I was...01:17
jriachimike__ i'll try to shot down the problem.. i think it is related to my domino widget-style...01:17
Contrastjoe2371: Trying to get a modem working. I've read in several places that the one I'm working with worked in Edgy, but not in Feisty.01:18
Contrastjoe2371: Just wanna try it from the live CD.01:18
jriachimike__: time to write a bug report to the domino-style author :)01:18
joe2371Edgy is 6.06.  Go to the website and download it.01:18
CPrgmSwR2How do I get java and firefox working?01:18
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mike__Jriachi: Yep, about the only think you can do about it, other than fix it yourself =D01:19
Contrastjoe2371: What do you mean? Don't bother with Edgy, just use Dapper instead?01:19
joe2371Contrast: that was directed to you01:19
jriachimike__: and putting the increase/decrease fonts in the toolbar :)01:19
coreymon77why both with either of them when there is feisty01:19
coreymon77CPrgmSwR2: firefox should work, just apt it01:20
ContrastIs Edgy really that bad? I mean, I had a couple little problems with it here and there, but I never saw anything that explains everyone's strong distaste for it. Just lucky, I guess?01:20
mike__Jriachi: that sounds like a good idea01:20
mike__But i g2g so ill ttyl01:20
coreymon77Contrast: im with you01:20
Contrastcoreymon77: My modem doesn't work in Feisty01:20
CPrgmSwR2firefox works01:20
CPrgmSwR2but firefox + java does not01:20
coreymon77Contrast: edgy of course isnt perfect, but its not awful01:20
jriachibye mike__, have fun!01:20
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ContrastCPrgmSwR2: Run "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin"01:20
CPrgmSwR2okay thnx01:21
Contrastnp01:21
joe2371Does anyone know how to prevent a USB drive from automounting upon insertion?  It is preventing me from using it with VMWare.01:21
wackjackAnyone?01:21
coreymon77wackjack: what?01:21
ContrastSo no one knows where I can get Edgy?01:22
CPrgmSwR2lol01:22
joe2371Contrast: Isn't Edgy also known as 6.06?01:22
Contrastjoe2371: No, that's Dapper01:22
ContrastEdgy's 6.1001:22
Admiral_Chicagojoe2371: 6.1001:22
joe2371oic01:22
Admiral_Chicagolsb_release -a :)01:22
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Contrastjoe2371: When you first told me to just go get 6.06, I thought you meant Edgy's crap - just get Dapper instead. Hehe01:23
joe2371Contrast: hold on01:23
CPrgmSwR2http://ubuntu.mirrors.skynet.be/pub/ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/6.10/01:23
CPrgmSwR2Theres edgy01:23
joe2371Contrast: go to the download page and at the bottom, select "complete list of download locations"01:23
joe2371Contrast: then select a mirror from the list01:23
CPrgmSwR2Edgy --> http://ubuntu.mirrors.skynet.be/pub/ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/6.10/01:23
Dr_willisI like Farting Fawn! :)01:24
joe2371Contrast: then navigate to the iso for 6.1001:24
ContrastSweet. Thanks joe2371, CPrgmSwR201:24
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G3NESISI had a problem with the Diskmount script for accessing windows partitions, and was told to use "ntfs-3g" and "ntfs-config". I've installed them, so how do I use them?01:24
ContrastUgh... The default for clicking an iso in Konqueror is to open it in Kate.01:24
joe2371Anyone know what daemon controlls automounting USB devices?01:25
CPrgmSwR2yes01:25
CPrgmSwR2no waht01:26
CPrgmSwR2its hald01:26
joe2371hald? ok, thanks01:26
CPrgmSwR2hal or hald01:26
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arooContrast: you can change default applications for file types01:26
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Contrastaroo: I know. I just thought that was a weird default. :-)01:27
maver1ckhello01:27
XtypeWriter74hello. can somebody please help me set vlc player as video player in midnightcommander ? here is my /etc/mc/mc.ext --->  http://sial.org/pbot/25471   when i for example open a .swf file i get this message Error: no "view" mailcap rules found for type "application/x-shockwave-flash"  but vlc alone opens such files01:27
maver1cki don't know if this good place to talking about Xgl bugs01:28
ContrastIf I click an .iso on a website, why would I want to look at it in a text editor?01:28
maver1ckbut i'm looking for advice01:28
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Contrastmaver1ck: Might try #desktop-effects first. They might be more well-versed in the matter01:28
Contrastmaver1ck: Trying to get Beryl running, I assume?01:28
maver1ckContrast, ok, but those bugs are connected with session management and automount01:28
maver1ckberyl is up and running01:29
G3NESISI had a problem with the Diskmount script for accessing windows partitions, and was told to use "ntfs-3g" and "ntfs-config". I've installed them, so can someone please tell me how do I use them?01:29
Contrastmaver1ck: Ohh, nevermind then. :-)01:29
maver1ckbut i've got two things not working properly01:29
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maver1ck1. shutdown / restart button - I found script with cookies clone between x servers but it doesn't work for me01:31
maver1ck2. no automount in KDE - no idea what is happening - google doesn't give any advice01:31
maver1ck(automount is working when on normal X server)01:32
maver1ck(maybe those bugs are connected)01:32
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ubuntu__dang01:32
ubuntu__anyone remember who i am?01:32
ContrastI couldn't get anything in regards to logging out/shutting down working with Xgl (or any session when using fglrx for that matter). Logging out just led the system to a complete freeze, where nothing but RSEIUB'ing would work. Have to ctrl+alt+backspace everytime I want to change users or sessions.01:33
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Contrastubuntu__: Not with that name. ;-)01:33
gon!ati01:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:33
ubuntu__lol01:33
ubuntu__im in the live cd01:33
ubuntu__with konversation01:33
wackjackis there any way to add add/remove packages... for example, I want to install Aptana it's not listed as any apps under Add/Remove programs and All available Applications01:33
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ubuntu__my kubuntu installs are wonkers01:33
Contrastwackjack: Check in Adept Manager01:34
CPrgmSwR2what is  your real nick ubuntu__01:34
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ubuntu__hmm01:34
maver1ckContrast, 1. only problem is that on logout dialog there is only one button - log out01:34
wackjackcontrast: what is that?01:34
ubuntu__i stuck with ubuntu_ all day01:34
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jabagawee_but i can live with this name01:34
jabagawee_i dont think any of you know me as jabagawee, just ubuntu_01:34
CPrgmSwR2lol01:34
CPrgmSwR2I am just happy I got kde4 working01:34
jabagawee_hmm01:34
jabagawee_my install blew up on me01:35
Contrastwackjack: If it's not there, google around for a deb, then an rpm if you can't find that (you'll need alien to install rpm's), and if all else fails, you have to compile from source.01:35
jabagawee_and i had so much stuff installed01:35
Contrastwackjack: K Menu -> System -> Adept Manager01:35
jabagawee_so can anyone halp me do a mini-backup01:35
CPrgmSwR2Try having a gentoo install where everything is compiled... I had it prefectly set up and  fsck my hard drive not knowing what I had done and come to find out all data was deleted01:35
Contrastwackjack: Adept Manager lists every single available package, rather than just the programs that have .desktop files (like Adept Installer - Add/Remove) does01:35
jabagawee_i just want: files on desktop, config files for mozilla, evolution, gaim, ktorrent, and some half-finished ktorrent downloads01:35
wackjackooo01:35
jabagawee_hmm01:36
maver1ckwackjack, http://afterxleep.com/blog/ubuntu-aptana-repository/01:36
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wackjackwtf01:38
wackjackthat opens up my original web authoring software01:38
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jarnDo changes made in nvidia-settings impact games that are already running?01:40
Contrastjarn: My guess would be probably not01:41
jarnContrast: Okay, thanks.01:41
Contrastjarn: Some of the settings in there don't take effect until you restart X, I think01:41
jabagawee_any ideas how to salvage any files before i reinstall?01:41
Contrastnp01:41
jarnContrast: Do you know which are which?01:41
Contrastjarn: Not offhand. Haven't used nvidia-settings in a goog while01:42
jarnContrast: Okay, thanks anyway.01:42
Contrastjabagawee_: From the live CD - K Menu -> System -> QtParted01:42
Contrastyw01:42
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jabagawee_hmm01:43
jabagawee_whats that o01:43
jabagawee_do01:43
SillyZgreetings, need a lil help with a pxeboot installation01:43
Contrastjabagawee_: You'll want to open a terminal and do "sudo mkdir /media/original" "sudo mkdir /media/partition2"01:44
Contrastjabagawee_: (You can name those folders whatever you want, as long as they're in /media)01:44
jabagawee_okay01:44
jabagawee_and then?01:44
Contrastjabagawee_: Then "sudo mount /dev/name-of-partition-youre-trying-to-rescue /media/original"01:45
jabagawee_hmm01:45
jabagawee_the partition im saving01:45
Contrastjabagawee_: right01:45
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jabagawee_sda601:45
Contrastjabagawee_: With me so far?01:45
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jabagawee_yea01:46
jabagawee_done everything so far01:46
Contrastjabagawee_: then "sudo konqueror", go to /media/original and delete all the stuff you don't want01:46
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jabagawee_umm01:46
jabagawee_lets not do that01:46
jabagawee_there may be some hope left01:46
jabagawee_how bout i just move files to a flash drive?01:47
Contrastjabagawee_: You could do that too. I was gonna suggest moving them to a seperate partition, but whatever's clever01:47
jabagawee_hmmm01:47
G3NESISI had a problem with the Diskmount script for accessing windows partitions, and was told to use "ntfs-3g" and "ntfs-config". I've installed them, so can someone please tell me how do I use them?01:47
jabagawee_okay01:47
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Dr_willisntfs-config is  a command ya run.01:48
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Dr_willis!ntfs-3g01:48
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions01:48
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jabagawee_sudo konqueror keeps crashing01:48
jabagawee_on me01:48
Dr_williscrashing with coredumps? or just failing to start?01:48
Contrastjabagawee_: Try Alt+F2 -> kdesu konqueror01:48
ContrastOr maybe Konqueror doesn't even have to be run as root for it to do this stuff if you're running off the live CD, I'm not sure01:49
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ContrastI thought it did though01:49
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ContrastSorry, I don't know much. :-P01:50
jabagawee_how do i know what progs i have installed01:50
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jabagawee_in the sda601:50
Contrastjabagawee_: I'm guessing you're getting an error when GRUB tries to boot?01:51
jabagawee_no01:51
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jabagawee_not even close01:51
jabagawee_i can boot01:51
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jabagawee_but everything is all screwy01:51
ContrastScrewy to the point where you can't open Adept to see what's installed?01:52
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ContrastI'm like, 99% sure there's a file somewhere that lists every package installed on your system, but I've no idea where to look for it. Possibly /etc/apt01:53
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Contrastnevermind, it's not there01:54
Dr_willisi think theres some apt? command that can list them all01:54
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Tm_Tdpkg --get-selections | grep install ?01:55
Tm_Tno, that's not right01:55
ContrastI think I can hear jabagawee_ banging his head from here.01:56
Tm_Tdpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall01:57
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Tm_Tto list only installed packages01:57
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Tm_Twhops01:59
Tm_Tthat list also purged01:59
Tm_Toh well, just more grep01:59
crdlbdpkg -l|grep ii ?01:59
darkrifti got a q01:59
Tm_Theh01:59
Tm_Tthat too01:59
darkrifti tried installing an ocr program yesterday01:59
darkriftand it didnt havce many intrusctions02:00
darkriftthe instructions seemed to be aimed at redhat or soemthing, so im missing dependancies i believe02:00
G3NESIS!nvidia02:00
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:00
darkriftIn addition to tesseract, a few development libraries had to be installed, but this is a breeze with urpmi:02:01
darkrift# urpmi jam aspell-devel libtiff-devel libpng-devel libjpeg-devel02:01
darkrifti tried getting those with apt-get, no luck02:01
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Tm_Tdarkrift: prolly -dev02:02
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darkriftwhen i try to ./configure, i get this02:03
darkriftchecking for /usr/local/include/tesseract/baseapi.h... no02:03
darkriftTesseract headers not found in `/usr/local/include/tesseract'!02:03
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Tm_Tdarkrift: mind to do "locate baseapi.h | grep tess" ?02:04
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darkriftnothing returned02:06
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ivan_hi hi02:06
ivan_Can anyone point me to some resources on how getting Ubuntu working well with a Thinkpad X41?02:07
ivan_I'm have some issues with the Trackpoint and keyboard.02:07
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Tm_Tdarkrift: hmm, then you have to find out where that file is, maybe do searching in packages.ubuntu.com and almighty google02:08
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Daisuke_IdoTm_T: is it possible his locate db is way outdated?02:09
Tm_Tsure it is02:10
osiriswhere do i change the workgroup my smb shares are on ?  for the server side of samba02:10
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osirisi thought there was a feild in the system settings someplace02:12
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darkriftif anyone here can go to http://groundstate.ca/ocr and scroll down to the tesseract part and figure out how to install this on kubuntu, id be greatly appreciative :)02:16
darkriftbeen working on it for 2 days now02:16
darkriftand since its not official kubuntu software, i didnt wanna ask in here02:16
mattsqzum02:17
G3NESISHow do I disable x server?02:17
wolferinehow do you setup sendmail ?02:17
mattsqzhttp://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/   ?02:18
mattsqzhttp://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/downloads/list02:18
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mattsqzwhat is it exactly that is giving you rproblems?02:19
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darkriftodd02:24
G3NESISI'm trying to install nvidia drivers, the information on the ubuntu help page isn't of much help, can someone point me in the right direction.02:24
darkriftfigured linux would be plug n play with usb mice02:24
darkriftdamnit02:24
mattsqzl/me stifles laughter02:25
mattsqzkubuntu should work automagically with usb mice02:26
mattsqzis it that particular mouse maybe02:26
mattsqzor perhaps your usb ports02:27
mattsqzg3nesis, which nvidia drivers are you trying to install, there are many02:27
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terrestre!mono02:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mono - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:28
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G3NESISUhm...I don't even know which I need to install.02:29
mattsqzwell, what is it that you are trying to do02:29
G3NESISI02:30
mattsqzdo you need 3d? trying to run a game, or beryl?02:30
terrestre!es02:30
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:30
G3NESISI just need a higher res for now.02:30
Tm_TG3NESIS: what exaclty is your problem?02:30
G3NESISthis 1024 is making my head hurt.02:30
Tm_TG3NESIS: check your xorg.conf02:30
G3NESISHow do I do that?02:30
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G3NESISI'm a total newb at linux. I just installed Kubuntu last night.02:31
wayl_join #php-es02:31
Tm_TG3NESIS: "kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"02:31
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mattsqzyou might also check "system settings"02:31
Tm_Tmattsqz: it's using highest resolution automatically, I think02:32
mattsqzmine defaulted to 1024x76802:32
mattsqzeven though up to 1280x1024 was available02:32
Tm_Tinteresting02:32
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Tm_Tbut still loonking xorg.conf is not a bad idea02:33
coreymon77ya02:33
mattsqzim using a geforce 6100, might make a difference02:33
coreymon77its better to do it in system settings02:33
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Tm_Tcoreymon77: sure02:33
Tm_TG3NESIS: got it?02:33
vip3rousmangowhoa, hello everyone02:33
mattsqzmucking with xorg.conf the wrong way can break the monitor & display applet02:34
Tm_TG3NESIS: hit alt+F2 to have launcher open and enter that command I gave you to it02:34
wolferinehow can I send emails using php?02:34
Tm_Tmattsqz: hey, we are not editing it now ;-P02:34
Tm_Tmattsqz: just looking02:34
G3NESISOk i'm there.02:34
wolferinei installed the sendmail, but no idea on how to set it up, nor php02:34
G3NESISAll the info is right down to the monitor.02:34
Tm_TG3NESIS: see resolutions there?02:34
Tm_Tand they are ok?02:35
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ebcalgun admin de kubuntu-es por aqui ?02:35
Tm_Tmattsqz: saw I didn't gave kdesu or anything, so he can't edit it02:35
mattsqzic02:35
Tm_Tebc: /join #kubuntu-es ?02:35
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Tm_TG3NESIS: what you see is heart of your monitor and controller settings, so if things go bad, you might end up editing those02:36
Tm_TG3NESIS: if resolutions there is ok, just close it, it's fine02:37
Tm_TG3NESIS: then jump into system settings and try if you can set higher resolution there02:37
G3NESISI have a set of resolutions under the screen subsection.02:38
Tm_Tand?02:38
G3NESISIs that what I'm suppose to look for.02:38
Tm_Tyu02:38
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G3NESISIn the monitor settings I cant go any higher, than 102402:39
notebookdae galera02:39
Tm_Thmm02:39
Tm_T!br | notebook02:39
ubotunotebook: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.02:39
vip3rousmangoanyone know how to get ubuntu to read .rar files? I've been looking online and although I can find post, i still have no idea wtf im doing02:39
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coreymon77vip3rousmango: sudo apt-get install rar unrar02:40
vip3rousmangoin terminal??02:41
G3NESISTm_T: I've figured it out.02:41
coreymon77yup02:41
vip3rousmangokk, i'll try it now02:41
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vip3rousmangothanks02:41
Tm_TG3NESIS: all ok now?02:41
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coreymon77vip3rousmango: install those packages and then ark will be able to do it02:41
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G3NESISI went into admin mode under monitor setting and changed the monitor.02:41
Tm_Tah ok02:41
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coreymon77G3NESIS: wait a sec, the resolution is giving you a headache, so you want to increase it02:42
G3NESISThat was the problem.02:42
coreymon77G3NESIS: why would you want to make it smaller if you have a headache02:42
G3NESISNear sighted.02:42
G3NESISI have to back up to read.02:42
coreymon77G3NESIS: you mean far sighted02:42
coreymon77if your near sighted you would want a lower resolution02:42
Tm_Tcoreymon77: you can't imagine how bad it is to look 1024x768 after 1600x1200 ;-P02:43
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mattsqzdepends on screen size02:43
vip3rousmangocoreymon77: thanks! it worked02:43
G3NESISI just know it's easier to read small text then big.02:43
mattsqzsounds strange to me a resolution giving you a headache though02:43
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Daisuke_Idowhat would be the most appropriate FS for media storage.  i'll be adding media, but not deleting often...02:43
mattsqzits usually a refresh rate that bothers me ;)02:43
vip3rousmangocoreymon77: you wouldn't happen to know of a terminal/command cheat-sheet? so i can start learning for linux02:43
FroggyTheGreatI'm trying to install Gutenprint 5.1.2 from source, and my "make" always errors out, even though the exact same tarball and exact same sequence of commands worked on my dad's Kubuntu box.  Any suggestions even where to begin to troubleshoot?02:44
Tm_Tmattsqz: just like looking ms logo is giving you headache ;-P02:44
mattsqztoday my nokia has been giving me a headache02:44
vip3rousmangotoday my girlfriend has been giving me a headache02:45
Daisuke_Idoi'm thinking probably ext3 because it's been around for a while02:45
vip3rousmangotoo bad i can't shutdown her ass :(02:45
terrestrejajaja maybe we need aspirin02:45
mattsqztrying to make openbox work under os200602:45
vip3rousmango=\ nice02:45
Tm_Tmattsqz: 770?02:45
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mattsqzyup02:45
terrestresomeone using mono?=02:45
Tm_Tterrestre: what you mean by "using" here?02:46
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mattsqzive had it working under 2007he it doesnt disconnect wireless when i slide the cover on, and that drains battery02:46
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terrestresorry for my english, i mean, monodevelop02:46
mattsqzfigured id start with openbox under 2006, and if i can get that working give kde a shot02:47
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FroggyTheGreatI'm trying to install Gutenprint 5.1.2 from source, and my "make" always errors out, even though the exact same tarball and exact same sequence of commands worked on my dad's Kubuntu box.  Any suggestions even where to begin to troubleshoot?02:51
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mattsqzwhat errors do you get02:52
FroggyTheGreatI'm trying again with a redownloaded package.  I'02:53
FroggyTheGreatll tell you exactly once it happens.02:53
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FroggyTheGreatOk, I get a bunch of undeclared identifiers, and then Error 2 and that's when it exits.02:57
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FroggyTheGreatAgain, this exact tarball compile dfine on my dad's system.02:57
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louis_hello?02:58
louis_first time on IRC. is anyone getting this?02:58
FroggyTheGreatYes02:58
louis_oh sweet02:59
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louis_first time on kubuntu too. so far so good =)02:59
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louis_anyone know where I can get IRC support for modem?02:59
mattsqzirc support for modem? ....03:00
louis_sorry. i'm trying to get my modem to work03:00
louis_and i can get on irc but not on the world wide web03:00
louis_and i was wondering if there was a channel for that03:00
wolferinehow can I test if sendmail is working?03:00
Tm_Tlouis_: you mean: you can get irc traffic through, but not http?03:00
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louis_yes03:00
louis_and Kopete works too03:01
Tm_Tlouis_: any proxy in use?03:01
mattsqzdns03:01
Tm_Tmattsqz: irc and msn uses dns too03:01
mattsqznot always03:01
louis_no proxy. direct connect. that's how it should be03:01
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louis_as far as DNS i left it on default03:01
Minatakulouis_: How did you connect to the IRC server?03:01
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louis_i just started Konversation ...03:02
Tm_Tplop, dns03:02
MinatakuBut the web browser doesn't go anywhere?03:02
louis_nope03:02
MinatakuTry again03:02
louis_it says it can't find the host03:02
MinatakuTry typing in www.google.com03:02
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mattsqztry pointing your browser to http://64.233.161.103/  <--thats google also03:03
MinatakuJust in case something is up with whatever default page Kubuntu is pointed to03:03
Minatakumattsqz: One at a time03:03
louis_mattsqz:  it wont connect03:03
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louis_and i tried google.com03:03
louis_same problem03:03
Tm_Thmm, I wonder if https works03:03
Minatakulouis_: That makes no sense :\03:03
MinatakuUnless you messed with some firewall settings somewhere03:04
MinatakuSomeone get me an HTTP server on 808003:04
MinatakuOr get it for him, rather03:04
mattsqzhttp://glcfapp.umiacs.umd.edu:8080/esdi/index.jsp03:04
Tm_Thmm, why I have nat on03:04
Tm_TGAH!03:04
Minatakulouis_: Try going there03:04
osirishow about 6969 ?03:04
MinatakuThanks, mattsqz03:04
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louis_adept doesnt work either. the packages are grayed out03:05
Daisuke_Idoapparently kubuntu doesn't like users toying with swap space while it's working...03:05
Minatakulouis_: Try going to http://glcfapp.umiacs.umd.edu:8080/esdi/index.jsp03:05
louis_just konversation and kopete work so far03:05
louis_oh and my modem dies unexpectedly03:05
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: That's a bad idea no matter what the OS03:05
Daisuke_Ido(moved swap from a slow pata hd to the new sata hd)03:05
Daisuke_Idojust required a reboot03:05
Tm_TDaisuke_Ido: it doesn't03:06
MinatakuOf course03:06
Tm_TDaisuke_Ido: swapoff && swapon03:06
mattsqzyou can safely do it if you set up 2 swaps and switch em up properly03:06
Daisuke_Idoprobably could have done it without a reboot, but hey03:06
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Daisuke_Idomattsqz: i set up a second swap first03:06
Tm_Tlouis_: welcome back03:06
MinatakuTm_T: I'd turn on the new first03:06
louis_i'm back... again. damn03:06
mattsqzmy nokia craps all over me if i drop the mmc1 partition while swap is on hehe03:06
louis_lol03:06
MinatakuThen turn off the old03:06
Tm_TMinataku: naaah03:06
Tm_TMinataku: who uses swap anyway ;--P03:06
Daisuke_Idobut hey, i'm still learning :D03:06
MinatakuReally, though, I'd reboot for such an operation anyway03:06
louis_yeah my modem dies sometimes too03:06
mattsqzbut it doesnt use a seperate swap part03:06
MinatakuIt just seems like the proper thing to do, even with Linux03:07
MinatakuIt's best to let it set the swap up properly03:07
Daisuke_Idobut everything is in working order03:07
louis_why would IRC and AIM work but not http?03:07
Daisuke_Idoand i now have an empty 279gb partition i can move my music to03:07
mattsqzthey operate on different ports, louis03:08
Minatakulouis_: Try going to http://glcfapp.umiacs.umd.edu:8080/esdi/index.jsp03:08
Daisuke_Idolouis_: because port 80's blocked?03:08
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louis_it said could not connect to host03:08
MinatakuIf that works, you have port 80 blocked somewhere03:08
louis_how do i unblock a port in kubuntu?03:08
louis_or what would be blocking it?03:08
mattsqzso...you're on dialup, louis?03:08
louis_i dont have a firewall03:08
louis_yeah i'm on dialup03:08
louis_until september lol03:08
Daisuke_Idonow for the next phase, swapping mount points for storage and music03:09
louis_has anyone here ever used the linuxant modem drivers?03:10
MinatakuLet's see if virtualbox 1.4.0 compiles03:11
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Minataku1.3.8 exploded03:11
mattsqzim about to give up on os2006 for this use03:11
mattsqzill just keep it on the flash rom and put 2007 on the mmc :\03:11
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MinatakuCellphone and pocket PC hardware totally suck due to their ultra-proprietary nature03:12
arthur_kalmhi everyone, I was wondering if this: http://gimpel.gi.funpic.de/wiki/index.php?title=Howto:convert_aac/mp4_to_wav/mp3/ogg_on_Linux is lossless03:12
arthur_kalmi.e. convering aac (m4a) to mp3... is it lossless?03:12
Daisuke_Idois it lossless aac?03:12
MinatakuNo03:12
louis_no03:12
MinatakuMP3 is a lossy format03:12
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khaije1!ipod03:12
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod03:12
MinatakuIf you ask me, there's no difference03:13
louis_and i think you lose data when converting between most audio formats03:13
mattsqzthis isnt proprietary so much..its basically busybox03:13
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Daisuke_Idoif you wanted to convert a lossless aac to wav you're fine03:13
MinatakuIf you're some elitist audiophile then it's like listening to a toilet03:13
Minataku(There's really no difference, hint)03:13
louis_lol minataku03:13
Daisuke_Idolouis_: NOT true.  flac, shn, ape, wav03:13
Daisuke_Idoall are lossless03:13
louis_really?03:13
arthur_kalmkhaije1: I know how to sync to the ipod :P03:13
G3NESISOk, I still can't get a resolution higher than 1024.03:13
Daisuke_Idoand i used to think the same way Minataku03:13
arthur_kalmlouis: so it is lossfull?03:13
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: I always assume some loss of data in any format transfer03:13
louis_yeah i thought it was03:14
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: I'm asking about converting from aac to mp303:14
G3NESISI restarted x and the setting revert back to 102403:14
louis_aac to mp3 should be03:14
MinatakuReally, from analog to digital, you're already losing a lot of detail03:14
khaije1arthur_kalm: hmm? i want to replace the firmware w/ linux03:14
Daisuke_Idothere are very VERY few times, but there are times, when i can tell a difference between a lossless and lossy format03:14
MinatakuAnalog has no sampling rate03:14
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Daisuke_IdoMinataku: that's before it ever gets to us though03:14
MinatakuTechnically infinite03:14
louis_arthur, if you're just putting it on your ipod then don't worry about it03:14
arthur_kalmkhaije1: hehe forget it, u pulled up the ipod thing :P03:14
Daisuke_Idocd --> any lossless format is just that, lossless03:15
louis_if it's for some speciallist application, then I'm not qualified to answer03:15
khaije1arthur_kalm: oh, the ubotu query was for my information, not to call to yr attention03:15
Daisuke_Idono loss of data03:15
arthur_kalmkhaije1: oh hehe03:15
Daisuke_Idobut 99% of the time, v0 sounds just the same03:15
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: I didn't say there was significant loss of data03:15
MinatakuMaybe one bit out of billions ;303:15
arthur_kalmlouis_: err well i have good earphones, so I don't want to hear any difference03:15
MinatakuXD03:15
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louis_i really doubt you will03:15
louis_as in REALLY doubt it03:15
arthur_kalmlouis_: well the _only_ reason I have for converting is that I want to use kid3 and it doesn't support aac...03:16
ubuntu_hello to everyone!03:16
Daisuke_Idoarthur_kalm: you won't hear a difference03:16
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louis_then i'd suggest you keep the quality as high as possible for mp303:16
Daisuke_Idoyou're converting a music collection to use a preferred TAGGING app?03:16
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dhuvhello all03:16
louis_hey dhuv03:17
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: even with my sennheuser pxc-250s03:17
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Daisuke_Idoarthur_kalm: if you're superman, you might hear a difference.  you're not.  you won't.03:17
dhuvI am using the default power manager app that installed with kubuntu03:17
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: Forget it, he's gonna hear a difference. He WANTS to.03:17
ubuntu_I need to install grub in my MBR sata disk. Can anyone please tell me how  to do this03:17
louis_lol. arthur. go for it ;-)03:17
Daisuke_Idolike i said, i've come across perhaps three instances EVER where i can hear any difference whatsoever03:17
dhuvit works well, but I cannot set a warning time to let me know when it will go to standby03:17
MinatakuThen he's gonna come back here and bitch that you were wrong and you ruined his music collection and blah blah blah03:17
dhuvso while I am working it goes into standby unless I notice that the batter is almost out03:18
louis_haha well hopefully he can't find me03:18
louis_if so, my mma training might have a practical application03:18
Minatakuarthur_kalm: Leave them in AAC03:18
Daisuke_Idohe's converting a collection to appease a tagging program03:18
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: oh OK, and I want to use kid3 b/c the only app that supports changing tags in linux is amarok as afaik03:18
Daisuke_Idothat's farking retarded.03:18
Daisuke_Idoso use amarok03:18
dhuvis there anything I can do to enable that functionality or should I install a different power management application, and if so, which one do you recommend03:18
MinatakuSorry, audiophiles piss me off, they're like Mac users03:18
Daisuke_Idoif you're an audiophile you know that converting from lossy to lossy is a cardinal sin03:19
louis_Minataku, well said03:19
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: I like the way that kid3 can rename the file into a specific format (one which I use, I hate the one that comes from iTunes)03:19
louis_mac users and audiophiles shit pretention03:19
MinatakuIndeed03:19
arthur_kalmlol i'm not an audiophile at all03:19
ubuntu_I need to install grub in my MBR sata disk. Can anyone please tell me how  to do this03:19
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Minatakuarthur_kalm: You gave us the make and model of your headphones03:19
Daisuke_Idohow much did you pay for a pair of headphones?03:19
louis_haha i know. we're speaking in generalities =)03:19
MinatakuDon't lie03:19
MinatakuXD03:19
Daisuke_Idoyou're an audiophile03:19
MinatakuSorry, I don't mean to give you a hard time03:19
MinatakuI'm just thirsty and angry03:20
arthur_kalmMinataku: hehe I'm proud of my headphones, but they're not the best03:20
Minataku>.<03:20
louis_sike sike i kid i kid!03:20
arthur_kalmhehe03:20
Daisuke_Idoi'm a moderate audiophile, up to the point of preferring v0 mp3s, past that i don't care03:20
MinatakuIf I can hear music I'm happy03:20
arthur_kalmwell does anyone know anything else I can use to rename the files using the tags into a specific format03:20
louis_haha I'm an audiophile up to the point of getting music out of my car stereo03:20
arthur_kalmI use "%a - %t - %s"03:20
louis_past taht I don't care03:20
Minatakuarthur_kalm: Tagging a file doesn't change it's format03:20
MinatakuIt just adds metadata to the file03:20
dhuvarthur_kalm: amarok or juk should do that03:21
Daisuke_Idoarthur_kalm: amarok works great for renaming03:21
dhuvdo you have either installed03:21
arthur_kalmahahah03:21
arthur_kalmgreat :)03:21
dhuvI have not used it, but you can try kid303:21
arthur_kalmthank you03:21
Daisuke_Idodhuv: since amarok is default in kubuntu, i'd imagine yes.03:21
arthur_kalmI didn't notice that ;)03:21
louis_Can anyone help me with my modem issue?  or is there a channel i can go to?03:21
arthur_kalmthanks guys03:21
arthur_kalmhehe u saved me lots of time and trouble :D03:21
Minatakulouis_: I don't think it's your modem03:22
louis_what do you think it is?03:22
MinatakuBut then I don't know wtf is wrong03:22
louis_haha i hear you03:22
G3NESISCan someone help me with this stupid Resolution issue?03:22
louis_any ideas, however vague?03:22
MinatakuMaybe it's your dumbass university03:22
Daisuke_Idoxrandr03:22
MinatakuCall up their support barn and bitch them out03:22
louis_yeah that woulndn't surprise me03:22
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Daisuke_Idothe catchall resolution answer :D03:22
louis_haha what should I say to sound smart?03:22
MinatakuIt's more than likely gonna be their fault03:22
louis_blah blah blah linux blah blah?03:22
Minatakulouis_: Don't bother03:22
MinatakuImmediately start swearing03:23
MinatakuXD03:23
arthur_kalmhmm OK I don't get it... I try to change the filename schemes and it doesn't do anything...03:23
louis_lol03:23
MinatakuWhy sound smart when you can be an ass? :D03:23
louis_i like that. i'll have to write that down03:23
mattsqzmost places wont even go any further when you mention linux03:23
MinatakuJust tell them you can't access any websites but everything else works03:23
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louis_well i guess i can deal with this until setpember03:23
mattsqzthe call ends with "we dont support linux, i dont care if -our- server is down"03:23
louis_see that's the weird thing though03:23
MinatakuYeah, don't mention Linux right away03:23
louis_kubuntu works on their network03:23
Daisuke_Idolouis_: if you say linux they'll call you a geek and hang up.  if you say mac, they'll call you a pretentious heterosexually-challenged person and hang up.  just thell them you have windows and keep telling them it's their end.03:24
G3NESISlol03:24
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arthur_kalmhmm so does anyone know how to change file names on mass in amarok using the filename scheme... it doesn't seem to work :(*03:24
louis_Daisuke:  i'm sure that's true, but somehow i can't see that fixing the problem ;)03:24
MinatakuOf course, if you tell them you have Windows they'll start talking really slowly and in tiny, easy to understand words03:24
Daisuke_IdoMinataku: that doesn't even work most of the time03:24
louis_haha "push the left button on the thingy in your hand..."03:25
MinatakuAnd _still_ not help03:25
MinatakuXD03:25
Daisuke_Idoarthur_kalm: select the files you want and choose "move to collection"03:25
Daisuke_Idothen set your preferred filename scheme in that dialog03:25
MinatakuThe general computing office at the Uni I go to is completely useless03:25
louis_yeah03:25
Daisuke_Idosame03:25
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MinatakuIt surprises me that the people they hire can tell a monitor from a TV03:25
louis_i got busted for downloading music and they wanted me to reinstall my OS03:25
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: ahhh it has to be in the collection, OK cool03:25
mattsqzamarok has been pissing me off lately...it doesnt like week and a half long playlists03:25
louis_they freaked when I had linux03:25
Daisuke_Idoarthur_kalm: no03:25
terrestresomeone know something about monodevelop?03:25
G3NESISOK, I've installed in Nvidia drivers and setup my monitor but I cant achieve a resolution higher than 1024x768 can someone help me please.03:25
Daisuke_Idoyou can use the files view to get to anything anywhere03:26
Minatakuterrestre: It'll give you mono03:26
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louis_they were like "wtf is this?!  windows or nothing you heretic!"03:26
MinatakuAs in mononucleosis03:26
Daisuke_Idobut moving to your collection is how it renames03:26
Dragnslcrterrestre- it more or less works03:26
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: oh... but I want it to keep the folder structure and such... is it possible to change it's filename without _moving_ it?03:26
MinatakuG3NESIS: You have to reconfigure X to allow resolutions higher than 1024x76803:26
louis_so would their lack of support explain why my modem keeps hanging up too?03:26
Minatakulouis_: I don't know03:27
MinatakuYou'll have to call them and complain03:27
louis_because it's error 16 which is something about them not responding to a query...03:27
Daisuke_Idoarthur_kalm: i don't really know03:27
louis_can do03:27
terrestreim pretty noob on programing, i want to import a visual studio code but i cant03:27
MinatakuIf they try to tell you that it's your fault for using Linux tell them to shut the hell up and help you03:27
louis_damn... and here i thought a modem was a modem...03:27
louis_yeah that's not a bad way to do it03:27
MinatakuOr just go to your Uni's CS dept.03:27
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: it's OK i'll play around with it, thank you03:27
louis_i live right down the street from them too, i could bring my machine03:28
MinatakuThey'll probably be able to help you03:28
louis_CS being counterstrike?03:28
Minataku...03:28
mattsqzhahahaha03:28
louis_jk03:28
MinatakuComputer Science03:28
mattsqzcomputer science ;)03:28
Daisuke_Idotheir job isn't to pass judgement on your os, their job is to get your things working.03:28
louis_yeah i wasnt kidding...03:28
louis_but that's not a bad idea either03:28
MinatakuThe CS guys at my Uni know their stuff03:28
louis_where do you go?03:28
MinatakuAnd more than just stupid Windows03:28
MinatakuODU03:28
Minataku!X1103:29
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:29
DragnslcrAnyone know offhand if Beryl and Quake 3 is a pair that just won't work? Q3 has an annoying habit of crashing if another window tries to grab focus03:29
louis_cool cool03:29
MinatakuThere ya go, G3NESIS03:29
Daisuke_IdoDragnslcr: won't work anyway03:29
Daisuke_Idoq3 uses gl, right?03:29
DragnslcrYeah03:29
louis_oh. totally unrelated question:  can i get beryl to run on an ATI x300?03:29
louis_128 mb?03:29
Daisuke_Idoyeah, i wouldn't attempt beryl and q3 at the same time03:29
mattsqzdragnslcr: how is beryl configured..aiglx? xgl?03:29
MinatakuYou can barely get LINUX to run on an ATI _anything_03:29
mattsqznvidia direct?03:30
DragnslcrIt works fine until something else tries to grab focus from Q303:30
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louis_aaah i just want the cool squiggly windows and the cube and all that good stuff03:30
louis_how should it be configured?03:30
G3NESISThanks minataku03:30
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MinatakuG3NESIS: No prob03:30
Daisuke_Idostart by removing the ati and sacrificing it in a ritual involving goats' blood03:30
MinatakuNow I'm too damn thirsty to continue03:30
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mattsqzdragnsclr: try messing in beryl's advanced menu, under rendering and rendering platform03:30
louis_lol nvidia fan?03:31
Daisuke_Idono03:31
Dragnslcrmattsqz- I think XGL, but I'm not certain03:31
Daisuke_Idoi just want something that will work in linux03:31
mattsqzlouis: ati is years behind with linux support03:31
Daisuke_Idoand ati isn't that something.03:31
heleneGreets, everyone... Can someone tell me how to find the file for my modem (in /dev)? It's coming up in lspci, but there's no /dev/modem.03:31
louis_gotcha. does nvidia generally work?03:31
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Daisuke_Idohonestly i'd prefer intel over nvidia03:31
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louis_okay03:31
heleneDaisuke_Ido: Same here03:31
Daisuke_Idobut using an amd processor, that's not a choice03:32
heleneToo bad you can't buy Intel cards.03:32
louis_F*ck it. maybe I should just buy an external modem and a new card03:32
Daisuke_Idoexactly03:32
Dragnslcrmattsqz- know offhand which section that's under?03:32
Daisuke_Ido!beryl > louis_03:32
Daisuke_Idothere is a way to install beryl03:32
Daisuke_Idonot pretty, but i know it works alright03:32
Daisuke_Idonow i'm going to watch tv03:32
heleneHow can I find the file in /dev that points to my modem?03:33
Dragnslcrmattsqz- It's set to automatic03:33
Dragnslcrmattsqz- options are Nvidia, AIGLX, and XGL03:34
mattsqzmine is set to force nvidia under rendering platform and xgl under rendering03:34
mattsqzi havent tried quake3 but other gl apps work for me03:34
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louis_okay. you guys are going to make fun of me, but fglrx is the proprietary ati driver right?03:35
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helenelouis_: That's correct03:35
Dragnslcrmattsqz- thanks, I'll give it a shot03:35
louis_sweet. and that's really got nothing to do with beryl03:35
Zabuluscan someone suggest a p2p filesharing prgram to me?03:35
MinatakuZabulus: Bittorrent03:35
mattsqzzabulus: bittorrent03:35
osirisfrostwire03:36
DragnslcrKTorrent is pretty good03:36
MinatakuBitTornado FTW03:36
osirisand ktorrent is awesome03:36
louis_so, if I have fglrx running for my ati card (that works. i've done it before) can i get the cool beryl themes with a 128mb card?03:36
louis_or is it still a tossup?03:36
osirisbandwidth scheduling, ip blocks, remote management03:36
helenelouis_: There usually aren't too many L337 assholes in here. No need to worry about being ridiculed. :-)03:36
louis_helene:  good to know!  I guess linux-heads aren't like gamers03:36
Zabulusokay, so 2 votes for bittorrent, 1 for frostwire, 2 for ktorrent, and 1 for bittornado03:36
louis_and that's a good thing!03:36
helenelouis_: Possibly. You might have to jump through a few flaming hoops to get it though.03:36
louis_how small and flaming are the hoops?03:37
mattsqzlouis, it depends more on your gpu's generational features than memory size03:37
louis_oh gotcha03:37
heleneZabulus: +1 for Frostwire from me03:37
louis_do you know if a radeon x300 works off of the top of your head?03:37
osirisZabulus, bittorrent, ktorrent, and bittornado are all torrent apps03:37
Zabulusjust tying it up some more03:37
Zabuluslol03:37
mattsqznot off the top of my head but it might be too new03:37
mattsqzill look it up03:37
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louis_thanks!03:37
louis_too new... that's one you never hear03:38
Zabulusthe last filesharing program i used was limewire, anything similar to that design?03:38
heleneCan someone please tell me how to find the /dev file for my modem, which is being listed by lspci and lshw?03:38
osirisZabulus, frostwire is built on limewire03:38
Zabulusill have to try that one then, thanks03:38
osirisshould be in the apt repos03:38
heleneThe only thing I don't like about Frostwire is it's in Java, so no system-wide theme integration03:38
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arthur_kalmhmm does anyone know a program that can tag aac files? it seems amarok can't do it...03:39
heleneLast I checked Frostwire wasn't in the official repositories03:39
helenearthur_kalm: gtkpod maybe?03:39
louis_you can get frostwire via automatix03:39
helenearthur_kalm: err gtkpod-aac03:39
arthur_kalmhelene: hmm let me try03:39
mattsqzlouis: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=700&num=103:39
crdlb!automatix | louis_03:40
ubotulouis_: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe03:40
louis_mattsqz:  http doesnt work03:40
mattsqzoooh right ;)03:40
mattsqzlooks like an x300 can be made to work03:40
louis_haha oh the joys of dialup!03:40
louis_is it hard to do?03:40
helenecrdlb: You wouldn't happen to know how to find the file that refers to a device in lspci would you?03:41
mattsqzfrom what im reading the drivers had to be reverse engineered03:41
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crdlbhelene, I don't understand03:41
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helenecrdlb: Like how you have /dev/hda1 which is your hard drive, I'm having trouble finding that file for my modem03:42
mattsqzlouis are you using feisty?03:42
louis_yes03:42
helenecrdlb: Trying to set up KPPP03:42
crdlbhelene, well it's probably /dev/ppp0 I think03:42
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helenecrdlb: Hmm... There's just /dev/ppp - should I try that?03:43
crdlbsounds good03:43
mattsqzdoesnt look too bad louis03:43
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mattsqzshouldnt be very hard if you have a decent pipe to network..dialup would make me wanna break stuff apt-getting everything though03:43
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louis_haha yeah it'll have to wait03:44
MinatakuIf you even could get it through in the first place >.<03:44
louis_are all the directions on that link you sent me?03:44
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louis_bc if so, I'll just check that out once i have network access again03:44
mattsqzhttp://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-linux-with-ati.html03:44
mattsqzuse that one, its pretty straightforward03:45
mattsqzdo everything up until it tells you to make a shell script...skip that nonsense03:45
louis_skip the shell script?03:45
mattsqzyes03:45
mattsqzthe current version of beryl installs in ubuntu the menu stuff03:45
louis_do you have to edit config files and such? i tried it a few time and it always crapped out and fell back to metacity or KDE or whatever03:45
mattsqzyou just have to change one item in xorg.conf03:46
louis_okay. that's just setting the default desktop right?03:46
heleneaagggggghhhhhh03:46
mattsqzits changing the driver from a 2d driver to the glx driver03:47
heleneI've been trying for like, 5 hours to get this damn modem working03:47
mattsqzdamn, second modem user tonight..03:48
helenethat might have been me. i was on under contrast earlier03:48
heleneand/or mike03:48
helene(working on my grandmother's laptop)03:48
louis_okay. sounds doable03:48
louis_thanks matt!03:48
louis_and all you others03:48
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TyphoidHippoHi everyone - I'll get straight to the point - I have a server here, and I want it to act as a caching name server for all the machines in my LAN.  I have googled the crap out of this, and I tried using BIND with no success, and discovered that dnsmasq is more like what I should use, because it will use the hosts file on the server (where I can define my LAN machines) and also cache DNS queries for the rest of t03:49
arthur_kalmhmm OK so it seems amarok cannot properly read the aac tag's genre :(03:49
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sebastianhooker_arthur_kalm: amarok isn't too reliable03:49
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namolhey there!03:49
sebastianhooker_hey namol03:50
arthur_kalmsebastianhooker_: well it's my favourite player... it's the best one i know03:50
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sebastianhooker_arthur_kalm: whatever it takes03:50
helenearthur_kalm: same here03:50
arthur_kalmhmm but I need something that will properly read these aac tags :S03:51
helenearthur_kalm: Did you try searching adept for "amarok aac"?03:51
sebastianhooker_i'll be back when people are alive and talkative03:51
TyphoidHippoI tried #dns first, but I've been in there for a while, and there's nobody alive in there...03:51
helenearthur_kalm: or even just "aac"03:51
arthur_kalmhelene: yes I have, about the only thing that came up was gtkpod-aac03:51
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arthur_kalmi've tried install all the other things, the libs, gstreamer0.8-faac, faac, etc03:52
arthur_kalmhelene: I've just started using iTunes music store, it's turning out to be a pain in the ass :(03:52
sebastianhooker_by god! i've got it! iTunes!03:52
helenesorry, don't know what else to suggest03:52
TyphoidHippoalrighty, I'll try somewhere else - have a good day everyone03:52
helenearthur_kalm: yeah, that's what i've heard. part of the reason i'd never buy an ipod. :-)03:52
MinatakuTyphoidHippo: Heh03:53
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helene:-D03:53
MinatakuThat might be a bit "high-class" for this channel03:53
MinatakuXD03:53
arthur_kalmhelene: doesn't have much to do with having an iPod, just want a legal way to download music ;)... and since allofmp3 got closed down i'm out of luck03:53
MinatakuUnfortunately, I haven't done much networking03:53
namolwhat's the problem?03:54
TyphoidHippoMinataku:lol, I figured it might be, but worth a shot anyway...  I'm running out of hair to pull out here!03:54
arthur_kalmhelene: but thanks for the help... i'll have to try and figure this out later then...03:54
helenearthur_kalm: have you tried iTunes in WINE?03:54
MinatakuTyphoidHippo: Even the hair... :O03:54
namolTyphoidHippo, what's the problem?03:54
arthur_kalmhelene: looked it up and it says it doesn't work at all03:54
TyphoidHippoWell, I'm trying to get a caching name server going, but having problems.03:55
namolusing what dns server? bind?03:55
MinatakuPulling out THAT hair had to hurt03:55
MinatakuSorry. Bored. >.<03:55
TyphoidHippoI wrote a long description of it up a ways, can I PM it o you?03:55
namolsure03:55
TyphoidHippoit might have been before you came in here03:55
namolyea i didn't see the problem so go ahead and pm it03:55
heleneC'mon, this should be easy for some expert in here. How do I find the file in /dev that points to my modem?03:56
Minatakuhelene: Have you tried /dev/modem ?03:57
heleneMinataku: Yep. Thanks anyway though03:57
namolhelene, what's your cat /proc/devices say?03:57
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helenenamol: Umm... Not sure what I should be looking for in that?03:59
namolwell that lists all connected devices to the machine03:59
Minatakuhelene: Heh03:59
namolgeneral rule of thumb is that most modems are tty or ttys04:00
MinatakuI don't have a modem so I can't really help, sorry >.<04:00
MinatakuYeah, usually they're a ttyS04:00
namolthat's if its a serial modem04:00
namolwhat type of modem is it?04:00
namolit kinda depends04:00
TyphoidHippoI also tried #ubuntu for something a while back....but man, it's crazy in there.  Did you get that PM namol?  I don't mean to be impatient or anything...sorry if I come off that way.  I just don't know if this gaim is working with IRC correctly.04:00
namolhang on, let me register this nick lol04:01
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louis_hey are there any external modem vendors that are known to be linux compatible (and not too expensive?)04:02
heleneI did everything imaginable to get it working under Feisty, then found out from launchpad and a couple forum posts that it doesn't work in Feisty, but it "does" in Edgy. Installed Edgy, only to find out sl-modem-daemon and sl-modem-source (the packages I had to install for the modem to come up at all) aren't available in Edgy's repo's04:02
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namolhelene, what type of modem is it?04:02
helenenamol: Modem: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 02)04:03
louis_any chance it might be one of those incompatible winmodems?04:03
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TyphoidHippoDid you get it that time, namol?  Thanks for your attention, too.  :-D04:04
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helenenamol: Well, I just tried making a link to /dev/ttyS0 and named it modem, then clicked "Query modem" in KPPP, and it looks like that crashed KPPP (sorry, can't send PM's)04:05
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helenelouis_: Already researched that, and I don't think it is04:06
helenelouis_: Thanks though04:06
louis_helene:  np i realize i'm hopping in a bit late04:06
louis_and that i know virtually nothing04:06
TyphoidHippoThis is weird, I guess gaim doesn' do this correctly.  Are you even getting the small, two word, PMs I've sent?04:06
helenelol04:06
namoli am getting the small ones04:07
TyphoidHippook, I'll break it up then04:07
namoldid you register with nickserv? you have to do pms04:08
MinatakuOt you can turn off that dumbass option to block them04:08
MinatakuThe spam problem?04:08
namoleither or04:08
namolyea04:09
MinatakuCompletely nonexistant04:09
MinatakuI turned off that stupid option, like, three months ago04:09
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MinatakuNo spam since04:09
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TyphoidHippoHow do I register with nickserv?  Is there a command for that?04:10
TyphoidHippo(slash)register maybe?04:10
namol /nickserver register password here04:10
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namolnickserv04:11
namolnot nickserver04:11
crdlb!register | TyphoidHippo04:11
ubotuTyphoidHippo: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration04:11
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TyphoidHippook, it's registered04:12
Dragnslcrmattsqz- well, it didn't work04:13
TyphoidHippothis is funny....  I come here to get help with DNS, and end up spending all this time debugging my PMs.04:13
namollol04:13
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louis_hey could my http issues be DNS related?04:14
louis_i remember somebody breifly mentioned that04:14
DragnslcrSo is there anyway to get bluetooth devices to connect when the system boots instead of when I login? It's tough to type a password without a keyboard04:14
namolcan you ping by name, ie google.com?04:15
louis_you talking to me namol?04:15
louis_and if so, how would i do that?04:15
namollouis_, yes04:16
namoltry this04:16
namolin your web brwoser go to 66.233.187.9904:16
namolthat's one of google's ip addresses04:16
namolif it comes up04:16
namolthen you have a dns problem04:17
louis_i typed it in the address bar04:17
louis_and it didnt work04:17
louis_Could not connect to host http://66.233.187.9904:17
louis_so it's not a dns problem or it is?04:17
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louis_its not, right?04:18
namolwell how did you connect to this server?04:18
douglasboa noite a todos04:18
louis_haha hell if i know.  i just started konversation and it worked04:18
louis_boa noite04:18
louis_kopete works too04:18
louis_adept doesn't and neither does konquerer's http04:18
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RawSewagewhat HTTP issues04:20
RawSewagedo you get lag before loading a page04:20
mattsqzno04:20
louis_no it just doesn't load04:20
louis_lol04:20
RawSewageoh04:20
mattsqzhe cant get anything through port 80 or 8080 so far04:20
louis_yeah... weird04:20
mattsqzthats all we've checked04:20
namoldo you have a proxy running?04:20
louis_what if i defined other ports for http?04:20
louis_no. no proxy04:20
namolor webbrowser pointing at a proxy?04:20
louis_and that's the way it should be04:20
namolwhat about port 443?04:21
louis_my web browser is set for direct connection, if that's what your asking. i'm not sure04:21
louis_how do i check? prot 443?04:21
mattsqzim pretty sure his browser is at default settings04:21
louis_yeah they should be04:21
louis_i messed with them, but set them back to default04:21
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namolare you on dial-up or a lan?04:22
louis_dial-up04:22
mattsqzhttps://www.grc.com/port_443.htm04:22
mattsqztry that04:22
louis_i'm using the linuxant drivers if that helps04:22
mattsqzoops04:23
mattsqzlol04:23
namolwell we know that you can communicate with the internet, or else you wouldn't be here04:23
louis_doesnt work04:23
mattsqzwrong tab04:23
louis_namol, that's what's so annoying about this!  it's so close, yet so far! =)04:24
namoloo i know!04:24
namolok, bring up a console window04:24
namoland then telnet google.com 8004:24
mattsqzhttp://www.ges.gla.ac.uk:443/04:24
louis_do i just type telnet google.com 80?04:24
namolyup04:24
louis_louis@louis-desktop:~$ telnet google.com 8004:25
louis_Trying 64.233.187.99...04:25
louis_Connected to google.com.04:25
louis_Escape character is '^] '.04:25
louis_that seems to work...04:25
namolok that's good then04:26
namolso that tells us its your browser04:26
louis_okay04:26
namolwhile in the console, type ping google.com04:26
namoljust to confirm that04:26
namolafter a few hit crtl+c to stop it04:26
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louis_namol, that seems to be working04:27
louis_-- google.com ping statistics ---04:27
louis_17 packets transmitted, 16 received, 5% packet loss, time 15998ms04:27
louis_rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 247.987/302.004/411.997/53.380 ms04:27
namoltype sudo apt-get install lynx04:27
namolthat's a text based web browser04:27
louis_okay. word of warning:  i dont think adept is working, but i dunno if that has anything to do with atp get04:27
louis_E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)04:28
louis_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?04:28
louis_sudo?04:28
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namolyes, sudo04:28
louis_eading package lists... Done04:28
louis_Building dependency tree04:28
louis_Reading state information... Done04:28
louis_Package lynx is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:28
louis_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:28
louis_is only available from another source04:28
louis_E: Package lynx has no installation candidate04:28
louis_i hope i don't get flood-killed lol04:29
louis_PS- namol you're a godsend!04:29
namolwhat package is that thing in04:29
namolaptitude search lynx04:29
louis_how do i do that?04:29
namoljust type aptitude search lynx04:30
namol:)04:30
louis_lol =)04:30
louis_doesnt do anything. goes right back to louis@louis-desktop04:31
namoldoesn't return any results?04:31
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louis_no04:31
louis_none04:31
namoltry sudo aptitude search lynx04:31
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namolif that doesn't work, try apt-get search lynx04:31
namolwait, apt-get can't search lol04:32
namolignore that last one04:32
louis_haha okay04:32
louis_yeah still nothing04:32
mattsqz..04:32
mattsqzits showing up in adept for me04:32
namolyea i know04:32
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namolwhich is weird04:32
namollynx shows up just find for me04:33
louis_do i need to enable repositories?04:33
namolwhat's your sources say?04:33
namolyes, yes you do04:33
illriginalCan someone help me install this file: cedega_6.0-1.i386.p2p.tgz04:33
namolcat /etc/apt/sources.list04:33
gafanhotohello04:33
gafanhotoBoa noite do Rio de Janeiro, Brasil04:33
TyphoidHippoAwesome!  After I removed bind9, and restarted dnsmasq, it works like a champ...almost too easy, like magic.  I'm going to go bang my head into a wall now for being a tard.  Have a great day, guys!  Thanks again, namol, and I bookmarked that BIND tut, just in case I wanna get fancy with bind some day.04:33
louis_namol, did that, got a lot of text04:34
louis_i don't want to get flood killed, so i wont send it all04:34
namolexcellent04:34
mattsqzjust do this04:34
illriginalCan someone help me install this file: cedega_6.0-1.i386.p2p.tgz04:34
mattsqz'apt-get update"04:34
namolapt-get update04:34
namolmight need sudo apt-get update04:35
mattsqzmost likely04:35
Dragnslcrillriginal- well, tar -zxvf will extract it04:35
louis_kowabunga!  it's updating04:35
namolillriginal, tar -zxvf cedega_6.0-1.i386.p2p.tgz04:35
Dragnslcrillriginal- after that, you'd probably want to follow the readme file if there is one04:35
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TyphoidHippoAnd it works with whatever you define in the servers hosts file, so I am, of course going to reroute myspace.com to something repulsive just to see the reaction on my woman's face....04:35
louis_namol, i'll check in in 10 minutes or so when it's done updating04:36
illriginalnope there's no readme file in the tar file04:36
namolTyphoidHippo, make it go to kittenwar.net04:36
Dragnslcrillriginal- Cedega's site should have instructions04:36
mattsqzbetter yet04:36
louis_possibly 20 minutes or so04:37
mattsqzmake myspace.com point to one of the many fake myspace login servers04:37
Dragnslcrillriginal- without knowing if it's source that you're supposed to compile or something else, all we can really do is guess04:37
illriginalhopefully :)04:37
namolmake that kittenwar.com lol04:37
mattsqzinstant spam flood04:37
mattsqztheyll even have her password to spam others with04:37
mattsqzher friends list will shrink04:37
TyphoidHippoyea, I looked at kittenwar.net, and I was like:  man this guy has no sense of humor04:37
mattsqzhooray success!04:37
namollol04:37
namolTyphoidHippo, the fun thing would be to make all the traffic get routed to squid and then use squid to perform manipulations to the pages04:38
TyphoidHippohahaha, I like kittenwar.com - but I was thinking of something like that one site that caused all the uproar...something with a goat.  She would probably throw her laptop out the window screaming.04:39
mattsqzgoatse.cx04:39
namolhttp://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html04:39
namoldo that with the squid04:40
mattsqzthough i believe its been moved from that domain04:40
TyphoidHippoYES!!!!  That's the one, namol!04:40
TyphoidHippohahahah04:40
TyphoidHippoit's done04:40
TyphoidHippoNow to just wait04:40
namolare you married?04:40
TyphoidHipposhe's probably on it right now04:40
TyphoidHippoyea04:40
namolnot for long :P04:40
TyphoidHippolol!!04:40
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TyphoidHippoShe's cool....for the most part.  After she freaks out, she'll think it's funny.  Hopefully....04:41
namoljust don't admit you did it until she's onto you04:41
TyphoidHippoif not, I think it's funny so who cares, right?04:41
TyphoidHippolol04:41
TyphoidHippoyea, I'll tell her she must have gotten hacked04:42
namollol04:42
namoldamn those windows machines04:42
namolman the cavs are getting stomped04:42
TyphoidHippohehe, she's using debian, but she doesn't know any better, anyway.  I'll tell her she got the first big linux virus, and I am so mad at her for it.04:43
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namoli forgot what i was wanting to do04:44
louis_hey while i'm waiting for this update, how do you log into KDE as an admin?04:44
louis_lol that's like the greatest linux mystery for me04:44
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namoloh yea, i can't remember the name of the stat program that runs on the desktop that shows cpuinfo/bandwith etc04:45
louis_namol, you were wanting to hold my hand and make my internet work ;-)04:45
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namolon kubuntu, unless you've defined the root password, can't04:45
namolyou can run programs as root04:45
illriginalI ran tar -zxvf cedega_6.0-1.i386.p2p.tgz but no install...04:45
louis_namol, ksysguard?04:46
mattsqzthats easy enough to do though04:46
mattsqzsudo passwd ;)04:46
louis_how do you define the root password?04:46
namolsudo passwd root :P04:46
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namolat console04:46
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namolillriginal, i bet it made a new folder though right?!04:47
Minatakulouis_: DO NOT04:47
illriginalyeah after the extraction, then i had to extract another file.04:47
MinatakuRun normal tasks as root04:47
namolMinataku, i totally agree04:47
louis_oh uh oh. i just did04:47
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namolif you need to run a gui program as root for something, it will ask you for your password04:47
illriginalnamol, now im here: /home/illriginal/Desktop/cedega-engine-6.0_[PtitGNU] /cedega-engine-6.0-local-update.i386.cpkg_FILES/cedega_6.0-1.i386.p2p.tgz_FILES04:48
louis_why is that bad?04:48
ladyofthenight^^Anybody know why the sound volume icon doesn't show up in the toolbar tray when I login?04:48
illriginalim tryin to go to their site and find instructions... but seems like they don't have one.04:48
illriginalat least not from what i can see ><04:48
louis_i just want to know so that i can get write permissions on some files in the etc folder04:48
namolwhy do you want to write to stuff in the etc?04:48
louis_is it bad that i defined a new UNIX password though?04:48
namolno04:49
Minatakulouis_: Yes and no in that order04:49
hitmanWillyillriginal, you didn't need to unpack the cpkg, is there a deb file in the main dir?04:49
hitmanWillyillriginal, ok, nm, you need to download the cedega-small pkg for debian04:50
louis_okay. so as a general rule, i should stick to sudo if i need admin rights?04:50
namolyup04:50
illriginalhitmanwilly what are you talkin about? what small pakage?04:51
illriginali have to download more files in order to get cedega to work?04:51
hitmanWillyon the cedega site there should be the option to download a pkg called cedega-small-<something>04:51
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illriginalbut I already have it...04:51
illriginalis that an additional file?04:52
uziphi04:52
louis_namol, what do i need to do after the apt-get update is done?  get lynx right?04:52
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namolyup04:52
hitmanWillyillriginal, ok, what file did you download? originally?04:52
illriginalcedega-engine-6.0-local-update.i386.cpkg04:53
louis_I ask bc the apt-get update is gonna take a while...04:53
hitmanWillyillriginal, ok, you need the cedega-small version...that's what installs the actual app04:53
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illriginalbut they only have a demo on their site...04:53
illriginallol04:53
billydHello :-)04:53
hitmanWillyillriginal, the cedega-engine pkg is used by cedega itself04:54
illriginalah ok.04:54
namollouis_, it shouldn't lynx isn't that big04:54
hitmanWillyillriginal, the engine is where all the proprietary stuff is at...04:54
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hitmanWillyillriginal, is there a #cedega channel? they may be more help...04:55
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illriginalthere's no small pkg file04:55
hitmanWillyillriginal, it should be in a deb format04:56
illriginalyes, im lookin04:56
illriginalin the download area of their site04:56
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hitmanWillyillriginal, ok, is this the actual transgaming.com site?04:56
FroggyTheGreatHey all. I'm trying to get an Epson RX580 to work under Kubuntu FF.  I can get the drivers to show up in Gimp, but not the KDE print manager.  Any thoughts?04:57
illriginalyes,,,'04:57
hitmanWillyok, ill give you a link...04:57
FroggyTheGreatI'm trying to use pipslite-install to make a .ppd file, but it's not detecting the printer.04:57
TyphoidHippoHey, I've got another...more general question, since I see you guys are talking gaming now.  I've noticed on some games, like HL2, and STALKER, and a few others, that the directory structure they used....looks pretty linuxish.  Are games like that usually easier to get running in linux (ignoring the whole issue of steam for HL2, at least)?04:58
MinatakuHeh04:58
FroggyTheGreatAny printer gurus online tonight?04:58
namoli just use wine to install anything04:58
hitmanWillyillriginal, http://downloads.cedega.com/files/cedega-small_6.0_all.deb04:58
MinatakuThey may be Windows games but we all know who has the better EVERYTHING04:59
TyphoidHippoIt looks like they developed the games in linux, and I'm sure some, or a lot of them do, anyway.04:59
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hitmanWillyillriginal, that should link you to the download file04:59
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namoli'd help if i knew what that epson was and what a ppd is05:00
namollol05:00
illriginaland this is the file i need in order to install my cedega which I already have and extracted?05:00
namolwhat type of printer is that epson? network/usb/parallel/serial?05:00
FroggyTheGreatIt's a USB05:00
hitmanWillyillriginal, the file you downloaded was the engine...it'll need the original (unextracted) file to install05:00
darkriftQ05:01
illriginallol hold on, im gonna find another place to download this file05:01
hitmanWillyillriginal, once you get the deb just use dpkg to install it05:01
darkriftwhy do my tray apps sometimes not make it to teh tray?05:01
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darkriftthey show up as a normal app with a titlebar button05:01
TyphoidHipponamol:  What game(s) would you recommend someone try out first (I have practically every decent game ever made for Windows...but I don't have Windows anymore, lol) to learn to use Wine?  I'm sure there are some that are very easy to get working...05:02
FroggyTheGreatMy base problem is that it doesn't show up in the printer list in the Add Printer screen under KDE, but an ancillary problem is that pipslite-install can't find the actual printer, even though it's connected and turned on.05:02
namolall programs are easy to use with wine05:02
TyphoidHippooh...well....ok then05:02
namoljust wine installfile.exe05:02
hitmanWillynamol, assuming they work :P05:02
TyphoidHippoheh.  I didn't realize it was that simple.05:03
namolhitmanWilly, i haven't had a problem with one not working yet05:03
hitmanWillynamol, ? ive had nothing but problems getting stuff to work...05:03
namolwhat games?05:03
FroggyTheGreatAny thoughts on how to get a USB scanner/printer to be recognized by pipslite-install?05:04
hitmanWillynamol, well, guild wars for one...and copying over dlls is not an option for me :)05:04
namolFroggyTheGreat, nope sorry, i would suggest checking to see if the device can be seen on the usb port05:04
mattsqzhey..wine works that well nowadays?05:04
namolyea, the new wine does05:04
mattsqzi havent touched it since...199905:04
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namoli just installed the WoW cds05:04
FroggyTheGreatIt can, and I can stick a CF card in the printer and it shows up on my desktop.05:05
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=== hitmanWilly prefers native linux games anyway
namoli'm not familiar as to what pipslite does05:05
namolwhat dlls are needed by guildwars?05:05
mattsqzdamned lightning05:05
mattsqzit is threatening me05:05
MinatakuI'm a console gamer05:05
FroggyTheGreatPipslite should just create a .ppd file for the printer so I can install it.  Any ideas how to get the printer seen by KDE otherwise?05:05
namolall cedega does is customize wine basically with newer drivers etc05:05
namolwhat's a ppd file lol05:06
TyphoidHippoI have it installed here, and I remember one time right clicking on a windows exe in nautilus and seeing "open with wine" but it didn't do anything...and I have been using fluxbox and pcmanfm since...a long time now.  I'll check it out again though.05:06
hitmanWillynamol, not sure, had to use cedega to get it running...wouldn't even start up under wine...even after tweaking around settings for a couple hours :P05:06
namoli always run wine from the console05:06
TyphoidHippoyea05:06
hgarciahas anyone got wow to work via linux?05:06
namolhitmanWilly, what version of wine?05:06
namolhgarcia,  i did05:06
hitmanWillynamol, hold on...05:07
namolwith the latest install of wine05:07
hgarciahow did you do that?05:07
TyphoidHippoI'll do that...just saying that was the only time I ever tried it, and it didn't work, so I just took the easy road of saying "Well, this thing sucks, oh well...."05:07
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FroggyTheGreatAnyone else know how to get the KDE print system to see printer drivers that are installed and visible through Gimpprint, but not the KDE system itself?05:07
namolhgarcia, mount the WoW install discs, type wine /mnt/cdrom/wowinstall.exe05:07
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hitmanWillynamol, 0.9.38...im assuming that's the newest one...05:08
Zeelot3khey guys I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then I closed the window and now it tells me it is locked when I try to run it again, how can I fix this?05:08
Zeelot3kI accidentally closed it while it was running the setup05:08
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namollocate *.lock05:09
Minataku!dpkgfix05:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dpkgfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:09
Minataku!adeptfix05:09
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:09
hitmanWillynamol, i did build it from the source myself tho :P05:09
MinatakuThere05:09
namolthere ya go05:09
Zeelot3kthanks05:09
Minatakunp05:09
namolhitmanWilly,  yea, just add this to your sources.list for the latest wine05:09
Zeelot3kstill locked >_<05:10
hitmanWillynamol, its ok, i already got that one...prefer building anyway...05:10
MinatakuZeelot3k: LIES05:10
namollol05:10
namol# deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main05:10
Zeelot3kno lies!!05:10
namol# deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main05:11
hitmanWillynamol, and besides, it won't work on my gentoo box...:P05:11
namolsans the #05:11
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namolgentoo yet you're in #kubuntu :P05:11
hitmanWillynamol, i use both05:11
hitmanWillygentoo on the desk and kubuntu on the lappy05:11
MinatakuI use Gentoo as well05:12
MinatakuNo *buntu at all, either05:12
Zeelot3kwill it unlock when I reboot atleast? I guess I can wait05:12
namolZeelot3k, no, it makes a lock file05:12
MinatakuZeelot3k: It should have unlocked with that command05:13
Zeelot3khmmph wtf05:13
Zeelot3kit didnt05:13
MinatakuDid you type it wrong?05:13
hgarciais that it namol? mount the cd and run the install?05:13
Zeelot3kcopy pasted05:13
namolhgarcia, yup05:13
hitmanWillyZeelot3k, yes, the lockfile is on a tempfs IIRC05:13
TyphoidHipponamol, I don't use kubuntu, either, but this is the only helpful room I could find05:13
namoldid you put the double >> thing?05:13
Minatakunamol beat me to it05:13
Zeelot3kdebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable05:13
MinatakuZeelot3k: You have a running instance05:14
hitmanWillyyeah, var is tempfs, gets purged on reboot05:14
MinatakuFind it and kill it05:14
hgarciathanks05:14
FroggyTheGreatDoes anyone know how I can find or create a driver file for an Epson RX580?05:14
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louis_namol, how much longer are you going to be on IRC?05:14
Zeelot3kis there a gui thingy like in windows? =P05:14
MinatakuFroggyTheGreat: Find? Google.05:14
namoltill the cavs lose05:14
Zeelot3kfor processes05:14
MinatakuZeelot3k: I think there's a process manager, yeah05:14
TyphoidHippolol05:14
namolwhich is about 30 mins or so05:14
MinatakuForget what it's called05:14
Zeelot3k=(05:15
namolps05:15
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MinatakuI don't use KDE >.<05:15
TyphoidHippognome-system-monitor05:15
Minatakunamol: GUI05:15
Zeelot3klol05:15
namoloh05:15
MinatakuTyphoidHippo: Kubuntu05:15
namollol05:15
TyphoidHippooh, wait kde05:15
hitmanWillyctrl-esc i want to say...05:15
TyphoidHippolol05:15
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TyphoidHippojust install that anyway05:15
TyphoidHippoit's great05:15
TyphoidHippolol05:15
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namoli prefer console for things because i'm ass backwards05:15
TyphoidHippotop?05:16
louis_haha okay. my apt-get update should be done in 15 min or so, so I'll be able to exploit you for a bit longer05:16
louis_=)05:16
namolthat and i use ssh for all admin type of stuff05:16
Minatakunamol: No, you prefer the console for things because you know what you're doing05:16
namolMinataku, i prefer ass backwards05:16
MinatakuAnd you know that the CLI is 50000x more powerful than the GUI05:16
TyphoidHippossh is freakin awesome for controlling your servers05:16
TyphoidHippowith x forwarding, at that05:16
namolno need for x05:16
mattsqzmore powerful, or chokes system resources less?05:17
Zeelot3kwont let me end the process >_>05:17
TyphoidHippoyes, there most certainly is!05:17
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namoli can do everything from console05:17
TyphoidHippo.....for me.....05:17
Zeelot3kwhat's the command to end a process?05:17
namolkill05:17
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namolor killall05:17
Dr_willisyou can even watch porn from the console! :005:17
mattsqz...05:17
TyphoidHippolol05:17
Dr_willisaaalib porn!05:17
namolascii porn05:17
namoloooo baby05:17
Zeelot3kand the command to list all processes?05:17
Dr_willisLook at the size of that Asterisk!05:17
namolps05:17
namolwhat's that switch05:17
hitmanWillyZeelot3k, try htop05:17
namolps -a for all i think05:17
mattsqzim using kubuntu+beryl, i must be a heretic05:18
MinatakuHeya, Dr_willis :D05:18
namollol05:18
TyphoidHippoI'd like to hit that close bracket05:18
mattsqzmy poor neglected console05:18
MinatakuWhat's up? :D05:18
TyphoidHippooh yea baby05:18
Minataku8===D {}05:18
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MinatakuXD05:18
TyphoidHippolol05:18
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MinatakuSorry, that was bad05:18
MinatakuX305:18
namol({}) oh yea05:18
Dr_willisMinataku,  about 8 hrs of shopping/running around.. she finially got so tired she couldent shop no more.05:18
hitmanWillymattsqz, that's why linux rules, whatever floats your boat05:18
MinatakuDr_willis: Heh05:18
Dr_willisMinataku,  I did pick up a Antec 900 case on sale for $6005:18
TyphoidHippoI was gonna draw it, but decided to be a pansie05:18
MinatakuDr_willis: Nice05:18
Zeelot3kstill won't let me kill the process...05:18
Zeelot3kwtf05:18
namoltry sudo05:19
MinatakuZeelot3k: Try with -905:19
namolsudo kill -9 pid05:19
Dr_willismoved my main pc into it. its not a bad case. But the  layout  is such  that my PS needs a longer cable or 2 for some conectors.05:19
hitmanWillyyeah, apt -s a root proc...needs sudo05:19
TyphoidHippoI remember the scripts for AOl back in like...I don't know, 1800 something that did ascii porn all over the screen05:19
MinatakuIf SIGTERM doesn't take it down, SIGKILL should. If SIGKILL doesn't, then you're in trouble05:19
MinatakuXD05:19
hitmanWillys/-s/is05:19
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namolwarning, abort abort abort!05:19
namollol05:20
MinatakuDr_willis: I'm guessing all that shopping left you with no time to do anything else XD05:20
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hitmanWillybut worst comes to worst, a reboot will defiantely clear anything on /var05:20
namolso, who's going to ohio linuxfest this year?05:20
Zeelot3kok I killed the process and tried unlocking it again and still no go05:21
namolwhat's it say now?05:21
Zeelot3ksame error05:21
Dr_willisMinataku,  i dident even have time to take a showqer this morning.05:21
Dr_willisI did pick up some packing material at the stores.05:21
hitmanWillyZeelot3k, try sudo dpkg --configure -a05:21
Dr_willisher and her *$*&@ lets go look at cars...05:21
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Dr_willisShes going to the Hospital tomorrow for tests. Full Anastesia.. so she will be tired for the next 4 days i bet.05:22
hitmanWillyZeelot3k, make sure any processes using the apt database are closed ie adept or synaptic05:22
Zeelot3kaha got it thanks05:22
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MinatakuDr_willis: Bad and good all in one05:22
Zeelot3kfound it heh05:22
MinatakuI can imagine how annoying that can be, though XD05:23
MinatakuAt least you can supposedly relax now :D05:23
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TyphoidHipponamol, what cosole editor do you use?  I can get vi to work....sometimes.....but it seems to just hate me and do whatever it wants all the time.05:25
TyphoidHippo*console editor*05:25
namoli like vim05:25
namolwhich is vi improved!05:25
sfirenano rocks05:26
namoleh05:26
Minatakunano05:26
MinatakuFTW05:26
TyphoidHippovi improved would be great05:26
MinatakuBecause it actually edits05:26
hitmanWillyTyphoidHippo, im losing geek points as i say this, but nano works for me05:26
TyphoidHippoI am gonna check out this nano05:26
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sfirenano is super easy05:26
namolnano or pico05:26
sfirevi and vim are almost impossible05:26
namolhow are they impossible05:26
TyphoidHippoI always find myself pressing insert over and over again05:26
hitmanWillynot impossible, just different05:26
namolemacs are freaking impossible05:26
namolyea, i is insert05:27
TyphoidHippoand never getting it to just let me type what I want05:27
Minatakuemacs requires 10 fingers... on each hand.05:27
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namoli use vim because it's on all my systems05:27
namolunix and linux05:27
namolnano isn't :P05:27
namoland neither is pico05:27
namoli used to use pico on rh 605:27
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Minatakuvi pisses me off05:28
namolbut then i learned05:28
TyphoidHipposfire, your endorsement of nano has convinced me....05:28
MinatakuI can sorta use it05:28
namolvi is great for stuff05:28
namolespecially writing code05:28
MinatakuBut I don't care to memorize exactly how to use it05:28
namollike perl/bash scripts05:28
louis_namol, 30 seconds to go! what's the next step?  atp-get lynx?05:28
Minatakuvi is terrible for everything05:28
MinatakuIMO, anyway05:28
TyphoidHippo"nano is super easy"  "vi is nearly impossible" Thats all I need to hear. lol05:28
MinatakuAnd I use Gentoo and I still say nano is best05:28
namollouis_, i thought you were already getting that05:28
namolgentoo is easy05:28
MinatakuI know what I'm doing in Linux/Unix, and I still prefer nano over *05:29
louis_haha no no. apt-get update right now05:29
namolyou want hard use slackware, there's no easy way to install stuff :P05:29
namolor upgrade05:29
TyphoidHippoYes05:29
TyphoidHippoI want hard!05:29
louis_slooooow =(05:29
TyphoidHippoGive me the most obscure, hardest to figure out OS in the world, baby!05:29
hitmanWillynamol, used slack for quite a few years05:29
MinatakuTyphoidHippo: OpenVMS05:29
namolhitmanWilly, i love slack05:29
louis_oh wait... sike... it's still updating... there's a hell of a lot of packages to get here...05:29
louis_what will i be doing with lynx once i get it?05:29
TyphoidHippoAnd make the documentation in Russian05:29
namolit taught me many things about linux05:30
TyphoidHippoI have used openvms05:30
FroggyTheGreatok. does anyone have an eksprx580.ppd  file they can e-mail me?  This is just stymying me left and right here.05:30
hitmanWillynamol, ditto05:30
Minatakunamol: And BDSM, no doubt05:30
namollouis_, try to open a webpage lol05:30
TyphoidHippoit's on the server at school05:30
MinatakuTyphoidHippo: Bullsh?t05:30
Minataku:o05:30
TyphoidHippothe mail server05:30
MinatakuWoah05:30
MinatakuHeh05:30
hitmanWillynamol, it just got a little too dated for my taste...05:30
louis_okay. i'll hit you up when all this downloading is done05:30
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MinatakuNow if OpenVMS isn't a crazy bitch, nothing is05:30
TyphoidHippoI haven't installed it or anything....but I have had to use it05:30
TyphoidHippoI had a big pink book to help me05:31
namolhitmanWilly, i use it for when i need a newer kernel that supports old/obscure hardware05:31
TyphoidHippoand that was it05:31
hitmanWillynamol, :)05:31
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MinatakuHeehee05:31
namoli'd like you to use sco TyphoidHippo05:31
james_heya05:31
MinatakuTyphoidHippo: Yeah, I'm an OS collector05:31
louis_i feel like a turtle...05:31
james_need a lil help here, nvidia go-7800 and Kubuntu05:31
MinatakuAnd all those DEC OSes completely escape me05:31
james_which module should i be using? nvidia-glx ?05:31
louis_namol, how did you get so good with linux?05:32
namoljames_, sure that sounds good05:32
namollouis_, it's my job lol05:32
namolnetwork/sysadmin05:32
namoli also have to use windows too :\05:32
TyphoidHippoIS OpenVMS not used much anymore?  It wasn't that hard to use it, from what I remember...  Of course, I didn't have to much beyond setting up new email accounts.05:32
TyphoidHippoto do much05:33
hitmanWillyjames_, actually, that one can use nvidia-glx-new05:33
sfireOpenVMS runs the stock exchanges I do believe05:33
louis_haha that would do it05:33
hitmanWillyjames_, or nvidia-glx, both work well05:33
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james_isnt the 'new' for legacy cards?05:33
louis_i had no idea there was this kind of support on IRC... here i've been looking for kubuntu forums...05:33
hitmanWillyjames_, no, the -legacy is for legacy cards05:34
hitmanWillyjames_, there's three seperate nvidia modules in the repos right now05:34
TyphoidHippoThe tech department at the school I was working at doesn't have a clue how their mail server works (the OpenVMS one).  That was kinda funny to me.  They use Windows servers for almost everything but mail.05:34
hitmanWillyjames_, the 8000 series need the -new ones05:34
MinatakuTyphoidHippo: Oi05:35
louis_So random question, is it a bad idea to get automatix?05:35
Minatakulouis_: YES05:35
namolTyphoidHippo, that's because exchange gets expensive05:35
crdlblouis_, no05:35
hitmanWillyjames_, anything older than 6000 needs the legacy IIRC,05:35
Minataku!automatix05:35
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe05:35
james_k, its a 7800 here05:35
crdlblouis_, misread05:35
crdlblol05:35
MinatakuHeh05:35
james_brb lemme restart05:35
louis_i've heard yes, but it's so darn convenient05:35
MinatakuI was about to say, crdlb05:35
crdlbI thought you said good idea05:35
Minataku!automatix | louis_05:35
ubotulouis_: please see above05:35
Tm_Tlouis_: and entering few apt-get commands isn't?05:35
MinatakuIt's convienent until it rapes you in the ass and makes your system it's bitch >.<05:36
Tm_Tlouis_: you can even make script to do it for you if you're that lazy05:36
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Tm_TMinataku: you're mine05:36
louis_haha point taken, TM_T05:36
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MinatakuTm_T: ?05:36
TyphoidHippoI used Automatix to install BUM on some systems, and it worked fine.  that's all I used it for, though...if that helps.  Which I'm sure it doesn't.05:36
MinatakuTm_T: That's the best way to put it05:37
Minatakulol05:37
louis_let me get this straight though05:37
Tm_TMinataku: sure it is05:37
namolcavs are coming back!05:37
louis_i can pretty much apt-get anything, but how do i point it to the right repository?05:37
hitmanWillylouis_, add them to sources.list05:37
namollouis_, with your sources.list05:37
Tm_Tsources.list contains list of sources05:37
MinatakuBesides, we can all agree that ABC primetime is family friendly, and I was hearing those two words there since at least 200005:37
TyphoidHippocavs are gonna lose!  (I don't really know anything about football these days...just want to add an opposing voice here).05:38
namolwhich is by default in the /etc/apt/sources.list05:38
louis_yeah cavs!05:38
Tm_TMinataku: I was saying you're my bitch05:38
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louis_sudo kate sources.list?05:38
MinatakuTm_T: I'm nobody's bitch... yet05:38
Tm_Tlouis_: kdesu for GUI05:38
namolwhat's kate? lol05:38
MinatakuYou gotta get to know me first05:38
MinatakuXD05:38
Tm_TMinataku: so you think05:38
TyphoidHippoI'm BIND's bitch.05:38
MinatakuTm_T: Is that some kind of threat?05:39
hitmanWillyTm_T, at least buy him dinner or something :P05:39
Tm_Tanyway, that's offtopic05:39
louis_okay so sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list?05:39
Tm_TMinataku: no, silly joke05:39
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MinatakuTm_T: Okay05:39
Tm_Tlouis_: kdesu05:39
MinatakuSorry, I have paranoia issues05:39
MinatakuXD05:39
james_still stuck at 640x480 on a 1440x900 display05:39
Tm_Tlouis_: kdesu instead of sudo when ticling GUI apps05:39
louis_isn't that the text editor?05:39
louis_or have i been making that up?05:39
sfirejames_: I can help05:39
Minatakujames_: Mailboxed LCD, I bet, too05:39
sfire1 sec05:40
Minataku!resolution05:40
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:40
Tm_Tlouis_: Kate is graphical text editor05:40
louis_kdesu is a text editor?05:40
louis_oooooooh okay05:40
louis_kde super user! i get it!05:40
Tm_Tlouis_: nano is text mode text editor05:40
louis_okay. so i can work with .config files using kate right?05:40
Tm_Tsure05:40
Dr_willis text mode text editor ......... hmm..05:40
TyphoidHippoAnd nano is super easy!  (or so I'm told)05:41
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louis_or i can use nano?05:41
Tm_Tsure05:41
james_well i have 2 choices , NV or Nvidia05:41
Tm_Tyou can use any text editor you like05:41
namolfreaking cavs05:41
Dr_willisnvidia = the actual drivers from nvidia, nv = the opensourced drivers.05:41
crdlb(except notepad in wine)05:41
Dr_willisnotepad in wine is bad...05:41
Dr_willis;005:41
Tm_Tcrdlb: that too05:41
TyphoidHippoyea, they're going down, namol.  No hope for them.05:41
MinatakuTyphoidHippo: Try it out, it is easy05:41
louis_okay. sorry, it has got to be frustrating explaining this stuff to me05:41
crdlbTm_T, it'll screw up the linebreaks :)05:42
MinatakuYou open a file for editing and actually are able to immediately edit it05:42
TyphoidHipponotepad in wine? lol, are you serious?  Who does that?05:42
Tm_Tlouis_: nah05:42
namolTyphoidHippo, i hope your dynmasq breaks05:42
Tm_Tcrdlb: so?05:42
TyphoidHippolol!!05:42
MinatakuLaunch nano with -w if it has long lines05:42
crdlbapt will complain05:42
Tm_Tcrdlb: you can still use it, though it breaks it05:42
MinatakuIn fact, if you're editing config files with nano, it's best to launch with -w05:42
TyphoidHippoI hope your "improved" vi editor gets a virus.05:42
sfire^^ very true05:43
louis_-w to launch. got it05:43
TyphoidHippoThat makes it as hard for you as it is for the rest of us.05:43
namolTyphoidHippo, i can use any editor :P:05:43
Dr_willisi like 'fte' for an editor05:43
Dr_willis!info fte05:43
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TyphoidHippoWell, then I hope you get a virus05:44
ubotufte: Text editor for programmers - base package. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.50.0-1.4 (feisty), package size 87 kB, installed size 332 kB05:44
TyphoidHipposo there!05:44
louis_namol, when I apt-get lynx it says E: Invalid operation lynx05:44
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james_ok here we go another re-start05:44
namolapt-get install lynx05:44
james_brb05:44
FroggyTheGreatI'm at my wits' end here.  I downloaded the software from Epson, made it, installed it, and it'll make a driver file for my printer...if it would work.05:44
namolor if you installed it05:44
louis_oh. duh05:44
namoltype lynx google.com05:44
louis_okay it's installing lynx now05:45
FroggyTheGreat./pipslite-install should detect the printer and make the driver.  It can't detect the printer on the USB port, even though the rest of the KDE system can.05:45
TyphoidHippofroggy, I have an epson printer, and I just used CUPS to get it to work.  I'm sure that is totally useless information for you, but maybe not.05:45
louis_ugh... 44 minutes to go05:45
louis_oh. make it 1005:45
FroggyTheGreatAnyone have any ideas?  I've pretty much tapped out Google here.05:45
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namolwhat type of printer is it?05:45
james_yaaa!!!! Thanks guys!05:45
TyphoidHippophoto R34005:45
FroggyTheGreatEpson Stylus Photo RX580.05:45
TyphoidHippowith the disk printing thing in it05:46
FroggyTheGreatIf I could just get the driver listed in CUPS, it'd be great.  Gimp can tell what it is, but Cups can't.05:46
hitmanWillyjames_, i tke it its working?05:46
james_yup yup 1440x90005:46
james_now to see if the dri and glx are working05:46
hitmanWilly:)05:47
louis_namol:  adept seems to be working now.  i have the icon in the systray indicating that i have packages that need updating05:47
TyphoidHippoI had to jump through a couple of hoops to make it work, hold on, and I'll check out what I had to do for you.05:47
FroggyTheGreatEpson's software for it is a utility to create the drivers, but the creation utility can't tell the printer is plugged in.05:47
james_hmm appears not to be05:47
namollouis_, good, now you'll spend all night performing updates lol05:47
louis_i'm assuming that means adept is working...05:47
hitmanWillyjames_, glxinfo | grep direct05:48
louis_haha woohoo!05:48
louis_i'll try to get my browser working before tackling that crazy ish05:48
hitmanWillyjames_, that'll tell you if you have direct rendering05:48
TyphoidHippoFroggy, I'm sorry, I lied to you.  My server is ubuntu-server, and it just worked in CUPS on that machine.  I was thinking of another printer system that I had problems with.05:49
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FroggyTheGreatok05:49
FroggyTheGreatAny idea how to get the program to recognize the USB connection?05:50
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james_had to sudo nvidia-glx-config enable , glx is working great now05:50
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TyphoidHippoWhich program?  Cups?  Through the web interface?  I haven't really been following your problem.05:50
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TyphoidHippoMine is hooked up through USB, and I seem to vaguely remember having to mess with some permissions to get it to work.05:51
FroggyTheGreatCups can't see the driver.  Gimp can.  I don't know why.  The Epson software (pipslite-install) is supposed to detect the printer, create a driver for it, and we go from there.05:52
FroggyTheGreatpipslite-install can't detect the printer, even though it's on, connected, and the rest of teh system can see it.05:52
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namolFroggyTheGreat, have you tried ndiswrapper? :)05:53
FroggyTheGreatI haven't.  What is it?05:53
sfiredoes ndiswrapper work for printers?05:53
namollol i'm just joking05:53
TyphoidHippoWhen I installed it, I used the GUI utility for gnome.  I don't know what pipslite is, sorry...05:53
namolit'd be great if it did05:54
sfireahhh... damn you namol :p05:54
sfirelol.. got all excited for a second05:54
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sfire:p05:54
namolndiswrapper is a program for loading windows drivers for wireless cards05:54
FroggyTheGreatok05:54
sfireI've got a dell color laser that I can't get working :(05:54
FroggyTheGreatAre there any genuflections that generally work for making Linux or Linux programs recognize a device on the USB port?05:54
hitmanWillysfire, check out linuxprinting.org and see if there are any known issues with it05:55
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louis_namol, lynx is installed05:56
louis_how to i go to google? lynx google?05:56
namollynx google.com05:56
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louis_accept cookie, i assume05:57
namolyup05:57
louis_okay it's on05:57
namollooks to be your konqueror05:57
namoli'd use a different gui browser05:57
namollike firefox05:57
louis_yeah i'd lvoe to ditch konq05:57
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louis_atp-get install firefox?05:57
namolapt-get install firefox05:57
louis_sweet!05:57
louis_thanks SO MUCH, NAMOL!05:58
namollouis_, see, you're getting it, soon you'll be using the console for everything!05:58
FroggyTheGreatOk, anyone know where Gimp keeps its printer drivers?05:58
louis_namol, I'd lvoe nothign more than that05:59
hitmanWillyFroggyTheGreat, uses cups afaik05:59
TyphoidHippoIt's called gnome-cups-manager, the thing that I used, that just magically worked for my USB Epson Stylus Photo printer.  I remember that I plugged that printer into a laptop that was running xubuntu, and the xubuntu printer thing couldn't make it work, so I installed gnome-cups-manager on there, and it somehow made it work, magically.  you can install gnome stuff on your kde system...but you may have to install05:59
hitmanWillyFroggyTheGreat, however, it does use the gnome printer interface05:59
MinatakuHooray, louis_ :D06:00
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Minataku:306:00
namolwoooooo06:00
=== Minataku gives namol 10000 useless points as well
MinatakuBecause I'm too poor for them to be useful06:00
=== TyphoidHippo gives louis a big gear hug.
Minataku;o;06:00
louis_O'DOYLE RULES!06:00
MinatakuXD06:01
namolhah06:01
=== TyphoidHippo means a bear hug.
MinatakuHeehee06:01
MinatakuTyphoidHippo: I was thinking Gears of War for a second06:01
MinatakuXD06:01
TyphoidHippohehe06:01
TyphoidHippothat'd be quite a hug06:01
MinatakuBut then I realized that a "gear hug" in that context would probably be very bad X306:01
louis_i wish my name was o'doyle06:01
louis_haha yeah i give o'doyle 1000 useless points and a coupon to have sex with my girlfriend06:01
louis_she's hot, i promise06:01
louis_sorry... i give namol the coupon and the points06:01
TyphoidHippoWith a chainsaw and everything06:01
namola gear hug, it's like a bear hug but with a lot more grinding06:02
MinatakuNothing says "I love you" like blood everywhere06:02
Minatakuj/k06:02
louis_no but this is a perfect example of how i could have saved time/trouble by using a command prompt ... at least now i know the secret of atp-get install06:02
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namolapt06:02
namol:P06:02
TyphoidHippothe secret of apt-get install, lol06:02
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louis_seriously, thanks to all of you.  this irc is great06:02
TyphoidHippoisn't it though?06:03
TyphoidHippothis is my first time in here06:03
FroggyTheGreatHAH!06:03
TyphoidHippoI like these guys06:03
namoloh just you wait :P06:03
louis_yeah. apt. lol06:03
louis_lazy fingers06:03
namolwith the command line you can also hit tab for command completion06:03
namolit's good to use06:03
louis_haha the secret which is not secret at all06:03
namoli use it alot06:03
louis_wow. i almost feel qualified to help others now...06:04
namolso you can type ap and it will auto complete up to the nearest match then you can type g and then hit tab again06:04
MinatakuHeh, I compiled something for someone in here today XD06:04
TyphoidHippoand you can also type /mount, and solve like 4/5 of the problems I had as a windows user when I first came to linux06:04
louis_oh that's sweet06:04
FroggyTheGreatDOH!06:04
FroggyTheGreatWhen in doubt, try the Gnome utility.06:04
MinatakuThanks to static compilation techniques06:04
louis_yeah i can see how that would be a huge timesaver06:04
louis_where do you live, namol?06:04
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TyphoidHippoFroggy, it worked?06:05
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namolin ohio06:05
namolin a house06:05
namolbang head here06:05
FroggyTheGreatOk, KDE has the better interface IMNERHO, but dammt, the Gnome utilities WORK.06:05
TyphoidHippoIf so, that's awesome!  I helped!!!!06:05
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louis_typhoidhippo, you can mount from the command line?06:05
TyphoidHippoI'm gonna tell everybody!06:05
namoli hate gnome06:05
MinatakuGNOME is horrible06:05
louis_haha sweet. delaware... in a crappy UDel apt06:05
FroggyTheGreatAgreed06:06
crimsungeez, it's not horrible.06:06
namoli use flux for the awesome backgrounds......06:06
MinatakuAnd no, GNOME utilities are horrific06:06
FroggyTheGreatBut its cups utility installed my printer.06:06
FroggyTheGreatWhat's the gnome smb utility called?06:06
louis_which in this case is short for apartment06:06
louis_Froggy, i'd have to agree with that06:06
Minatakucrimsun: Yeah, it is.06:06
crimsunit's not many people's cup of tea, but it's not awful06:06
TyphoidHippoThat's so cool06:06
TyphoidHippoumm, let me check06:06
TyphoidHippoit's pretty good, too06:06
louis_GNOME is ugly... i know that's a lame reason to use KDE06:06
jarnFroggyTheGreat: IMNERHO? If that means "In my not even remotely humble opinion", that is the greatest acronym ever.06:06
Tm_Tlouis_: appearance is configurable06:06
TyphoidHippoGnome with the Kore theme is drop dead sexy06:06
MinatakuIt's rather disgusting, what with it's use of GTK, terrible WM and "You're too stupid to see any advanced options" way of thinking06:06
louis_but GNOME looks like a bag of nuts06:06
namoli like ftbrg ;)06:06
Daisuke_Idokde's disk and filesystem applet has p'd me off for the last time06:07
namoldo you have stairs in your house?06:07
louis_what's flux?06:07
namolfluxbox, another windows manger06:07
TyphoidHippofluxbox is awesome06:07
namolwindow manager, not windows06:07
TyphoidHippoIt's what I use on all my computers06:07
TyphoidHippoIt's soooooo simple06:07
MinatakuI use Fluxbox as well06:07
FroggyTheGreatWhen pigs fly and KDE4 is out...06:07
namolwell blackbox is the original so there06:07
MinatakuThough lately it's been pissing me off06:07
TyphoidHippoand you can configure everything to your heart's content06:07
Daisuke_Idoi went through a period of wanting to tweak every little setting06:08
louis_fluxbox is analogous to beryl?06:08
Daisuke_Idonow i just want things to work06:08
Daisuke_Idoreliably06:08
Minatakulouis_: No06:08
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TyphoidHippo(And fluxbox looks pretty cool, too)06:08
FroggyTheGreatSorry about that.06:08
TyphoidHippoyea, sorry06:08
namolno, beryl is for all the flashy stuff06:08
Daisuke_Idofluxbox is great, but i spent more time tweaking and less actually doing things06:08
Minataku"Flux" is also a substance used in soldering to prepare the board surfaces for the application of solder06:08
TyphoidHippoI'll find the smb tool for you, froggy06:08
Tm_T!offtopic06:08
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:08
MinatakuIt stinks like hell when burned and is completely unrelated06:08
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MinatakuXD06:08
Tm_Tyou really are free to join #kubuntu-offtopic06:08
louis_minataku, can you explain?  it sounds interesting06:09
MinatakuNobody's asking for help right now06:09
crimsun/join #kubuntu-offtopic #:)06:09
MinatakuWhen people ask, we'll shift back06:09
Tm_TMinataku: I know06:09
MinatakuWe need downtime that doesn't involve being shuttled off to a dead channel where no conversation or topic ever survives06:09
hitmanWillylol06:10
MinatakuIn fact, it's borderline offensive to tell us to move it, since it never moves, it just dies06:10
louis_dude it's a quick question ...=)06:10
namoloh yea,  so back to my original question06:10
crimsunit's not borderline offensive.  He's an op.06:10
Tm_Tbtw anyone have an idea how to get kickoff to follow... bah, forget, need to hack sources06:10
MinatakuIf you're gonna tell us to stay on topic, just tell us to shut the hell up instead ;306:10
louis_so basically fluxbox configures how you work with your desktop environment?06:11
FroggyTheGreatOk, thanks for the tip on the printer.  It works now.06:11
namolno, fluxbox is like kde06:11
Minatakulouis_: No, fluxbox is a window manager06:11
Minatakunamol: No06:11
Tm_TMinataku: or just remove you from channel? ;)06:11
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MinatakuFluxbox is like kwin06:11
louis_stuff like double clicking the title bar, etc...?06:11
namoli'm not done yet damn it!06:11
MinatakuTm_T: That would just be rude ;306:11
TyphoidHippofroggy, it's called "shares-admin"06:11
Tm_TMinataku: oh I thought I am06:11
MinatakuYou can actually use KDE with Fluxbox06:11
namolwell you can use kde tools with gnome too06:11
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Tm_TMinataku: thanks <306:11
Minatakunp ^^06:12
louis_oooooooh okay. so fluxbox is analogous to kde and gnome06:12
crimsunno, KDE and GNOME are entire environments.06:12
MinatakuIt's a little more complicated than that06:12
MinatakuRight06:12
hitmanWillyi used to run kicker on top of fluxbox06:12
louis_oh.06:12
louis_wow. i'll have to check out their site06:12
louis_i'm sure the screenshots will explain it06:12
louis_lol this is how i learn...06:12
MinatakuKDE uses kwin as it's default WM06:12
hitmanWillyworked quite well actually06:12
MinatakuGNOME uses metacity06:12
crimsuneach environment is comprised of specific components, the generics of which can be implemented in various fashions.06:12
louis_is useless points linux lingo?06:13
TyphoidHippohehe, no.  Fluxbox can't do beryl because it is it's own WM, which turns most people off to it.06:13
MinatakuEither can be replaced with the WM of your choice06:13
Minatakulouis_: No, the useless points is just me being silly06:13
FroggyTheGreatOk, getting the scanner to work can wait till tomorrow.  Thanks all for your help.06:13
louis_ooh. i'm starting to see it06:13
namolbut you can run multiple WMs06:13
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MinatakuBah, Beryl can kiss my butt06:13
TyphoidHippoyea06:13
TyphoidHippomine too06:13
TyphoidHippotwice06:13
louis_so fluxbox isn't just a gui06:13
louis_riiiight... okay06:13
MinatakuNot just because I have a Trident card, either06:13
Minataku>.>06:13
Minatakulouis_: It _IS_06:13
MinatakuLook06:14
louis_haha okay06:14
MinatakuKDE and GNOME are Desktop Environments06:14
namollol, opening up a can of worms06:14
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MinatakuWhat controls the individual windows are WMs06:14
MinatakuWindow Managers06:14
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MinatakuA WM does not need a DE to run06:14
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TyphoidHippoI can't believe I helped that guy get his printer to work....I feel all.......well lucky, really, I guess.06:14
MinatakuA DE _DOES_ need a WM to run06:14
crimsunwell, not really06:14
MinatakuMore or less, anyway06:14
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Minatakucrimsun: KISS06:14
namoland that's why i use console with bash06:15
MinatakuWe don't need to further confuse the hell out of the poor guy06:15
MinatakuXD06:15
louis_but a DE needs a WM?06:15
crimsuna user sure is going to find moving objects on the screen difficult without a window manager, however.06:15
Minatakucrimsun: Right06:15
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MinatakuLike that time I killed twm when I had a couple things on the screen06:15
louis_okay06:15
louis_i think i got it06:15
MinatakuThat was a pain in the ass06:15
mike_Greets, everyone06:15
MinatakuNot as bad as when I killed it with NOTHING on screen, though XD06:15
TyphoidHippolouis:  Fluxbox doesn't do beryl or compiz or icons on the desktop - if that sounds good to you, then you'll love it.  If not, then you'll hate it.06:15
mike_Does anyone in here have any experience with GParted?06:15
louis_haha yeah! i'm just a linux virgin!06:15
Minatakulouis_: The WM provides titlebars and function buttons06:16
Daisuke_IdoMinataku: drop to a tty and restart it?06:16
MinatakuLike the X and maximize and such06:16
louis_well i guess namol sort of popped my cherry06:16
louis_sigh... you never forget your first time06:16
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: Doesn't work on systems without VTs06:16
Daisuke_Idogood point.06:16
namollol06:16
TyphoidHippolol06:16
louis_ooh i do!06:16
louis_(big moment for me)06:16
TyphoidHippomike, gparted I'm sure we all have experience with, what's up?06:16
MinatakuSpeaking of, who wants to see A/UX? :: http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/random/auximages/ :D06:16
louis_okay. now i definitely understand06:17
louis_so now that mike needs help ;-) ...06:17
mike_TyphoidHippo: It doesn't load. I just get a grub> prompt, no errors. :-\06:17
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mike_TyphoidHippo: I'm pretty sure I got the exact same thing when I tried to run the SuperGRUB live CD as well. Not sure what the problem is with my system and these types of discs, as I ran GParted without issue on another computer.06:18
louis_oh... not quite in gparted's domain ... my advice is out lol06:18
mike_Thanks anyway, louis_06:19
hitmanWillymike_, ok, do you have the grub prompt up now?06:19
mike_hitmanWilly: Yeah06:19
louis_mike, if you absolutely need it, why don't you download Knoppix and use gparted from there?06:19
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mike_louis_: I was wondering if that would work. I'll try that if this doesn't pan out. Thanks for the tip.06:20
hitmanWillymike_, ok, try this root (hd06:20
louis_I feel like it might actually be a better idea since all partitions can be unmounted and there's no read/write operations besides the gparted ones06:20
TyphoidHippohmmmm06:20
hitmanWillymike_, then hit tab twice to see what comes up06:20
TyphoidHippoI have a gparted livecd that works great06:20
TyphoidHippoit isn't superGRUB, I haven't even heard of that06:21
louis_no problem06:21
TyphoidHippoAre you just getting your normal grub screen?  As if it isn't even booting from the CD?06:22
namolis your cd-rom light on? :)06:22
mike_hitmanWilly: Partition num: 0... and Partition num: 4...06:22
mike_TyphoidHippo: Nope. I hosed GRUB when trying to repartition :-\06:22
hitmanWillymike_, do you know which one your OS is on?06:23
Daisuke_Idookay, i think i FINALLY have things working the way i want them to06:23
TyphoidHippoI think hitmanwilly will be leading you down a good path here, so I'm gonna go fight with vi, root for the cavs to lose, and see if Wine actually works as well as namol says it does.06:23
mike_Well, I've cleared everything off the disk except for the stuff I'm trying to rescue - I was going to try and repartition using QtParted from the Kubuntu live CD, put all the goods on a secondary partition and install the system to the primary, but that wasn't working06:24
namoli would have just dd it06:24
mike_TyphoidHippo: Thanks anyway. Happy fighting06:25
mike_namol: Was that to me?06:25
TyphoidHippolol06:25
namolyup06:25
hitmanWillymike_, so the cd isn't even booting then...is it set up for boot first in bios?06:25
mike_hitmanWilly: I'm pretty sure the stuff I'm trying to save is oh partition 006:25
namolyes, Tm_T thank you! conky is what i wanted06:25
mike_No, the CD IS booting. It's just not booting properly06:25
mike_GRUB isn't installed on my system at all at this point06:26
TyphoidHippoWhat are the options in the bootloader?  Is one of them to boot gparted?06:26
mike_namol: dd?06:26
hitmanWillymike_, did you have it before you repartitioned?06:26
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TyphoidHipposorry for asking such a dumb question...but hell we all make oversites.  I made a big one earlier, myself.06:27
hitmanWillymike_, grub installs to the MBR so a repartition wouldn't affect the actual executable06:27
wersHas anyone here successfully used a webcam with Kopete?06:27
mike_hitmanWilly: Yeah, then when I repartitioned, I got error 22 when GRUB was loading. Tried several tutorials, presumably mis-stepped somewhere along the line and eff'd everything up06:27
wersmy webcam works with other apps but not with kopete06:27
TyphoidHippoIf you are sure you are in fact booting from the CD, and the CD just doesn't boot right, then all you can really do is try a different CD...06:28
hitmanWillymike_, when you get the prompt that just means grub can't find anything to boot06:28
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mike_All I want now is to get my home folder on a secondary partition so I can reinstall the OS on the primary one, then hopefully repartition without any problems and have everything on one partition06:28
hitmanWillymike_, so its probably trying to boot the HD06:28
mike_hitmanWilly: No, I promise, it's booting from the CD. :-) ......06:28
TyphoidHippoThat's what it sounds like to me too06:28
mike_hitmanWilly: When I boot w/o the CD in there, it doesn't give me a grub prompt06:29
mike_hitmanWilly: The Intel boot loader tries to boot, unsuccessfully of course,06:29
TyphoidHippo"INSERT SYSTEM DISK" Error?06:29
mike_I think that's what it said06:29
Daisuke_Ido"Keyboard Not Found, Press F1 To Continue"06:30
TyphoidHippoWell, that's weird, then.06:30
namolsounds like nothing is written to the mbr06:30
hitmanWillylol06:30
TyphoidHippoTry a different CD.06:30
hitmanWillystupid error msg that one06:30
namoli'd get knoppix06:30
mike_The Kubuntu live CD boots without issue06:30
namoluse the kubuntu cd and see if you can mount the hd in there06:30
TyphoidHippobut qtparted doesn't work, right?  And the actual gparted CD gives you an inexplicable boot prompt...06:31
mike_namol: I already tried everything I could with the Kubuntu cd, no luck06:31
MinatakuOperating System Not Found06:31
mike_TyphoidHippo: Nail on the head. :-)06:31
MinatakuNo OS06:31
MinatakuOr one from an old 95% PC Compatible I used to have06:31
Minataku"IPL ERR"06:31
Minataku:D06:31
TyphoidHippoYou can try any other live CD (that has a partition editor) - If I were you, I'd just keep trying until one worked.06:32
MinatakuTry "Ultimate Boot CD"06:32
Minatakuhttp://ubcd.sourceforge.<something>06:32
mike_Will I find that on DistroWatch?06:32
MinatakuI forget it's TLD06:32
namolwait, you can't even mount the hd in the live cd?06:32
mike_Oh ok06:32
hitmanWillythere's always cfdisk-im pretty sure the kubuntu live cd has that one06:32
MinatakuThat should have a buttload of partitioners06:32
namolsf.net06:32
Minatakunamol: I don't think you can use sf.net to get to it06:33
mike_namol: I can mount it, but once I unmount it, I can't make any changes to it in QtParted06:33
TyphoidHippoI always use backtrack when I can't get anything else to work.06:33
TyphoidHippoI don't know if backtrack has a partition editor though...surely it does.06:33
Minatakumike_: They're not gonna be GUI but TUI06:33
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Minatakuncurses-style06:33
MinatakuLike cfdisk06:33
namolgui is for girlz06:33
MinatakuThere's three classes, GUI, TUI and CLI06:33
namolcli is for real mean06:34
namolmen06:34
namoli cun tipe gewd06:34
TyphoidHippo"gui is for girls"!!  That's awesome06:34
Tm_Thaha06:34
hitmanWillyfreudian slip there, namol06:34
hitmanWilly:P06:34
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mike_Ok... Well, thanks a LOT for the help, everyone. I'm gonna go see what I can do with Knoppix, and any of the other suggestions if necessary.06:34
mike_'Preciate all the help. G'nite06:35
MinatakuOnly NON-MEN shave with SHARP ROCKS! Are you a NON-MAN!?06:35
MinatakuXD06:35
namolnight06:35
MinatakuNight, mike_06:35
hitmanWillyltr06:35
TyphoidHippohe's totally not booting from the CD!06:35
TyphoidHippojust kidding06:35
namollol06:35
namolINSERT THE CD INTO THE DRIVE06:36
TyphoidHippohaha06:36
TyphoidHippoSHINY SIDE DOWN06:36
hitmanWillyyeah, that just sounds like grub doing its normal "duh, i no find OS"06:36
namolwhat if it's shiny on both sides06:36
namoland that's why i like lilo06:36
TyphoidHipponamol:  Then shoot your computer and get a typewriter06:36
hitmanWillylol06:37
MinatakuGRUB gives a prompt I believe if it has no conf06:37
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TyphoidHippoand an error 22 if it can't find the right stuff06:37
TyphoidHippohe mentioned both06:37
namol"i like to use ntloader for all my boot manger needs"06:37
TyphoidHippolol06:38
MinatakuThat's "NTLDR"06:38
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MinatakuBecause it has to be short and dangerous sounding06:38
hitmanWillyyeah, and a fscked up, ie blank, partition wouldn't have a config06:38
namoland he's back06:38
mike_Hey, me again... Just had another thought....06:38
namolwelcome back06:38
mike_Heh, thanks06:38
TyphoidHippo"NTLDR not found - you are so screwed - and you probably owe us money."06:38
namollol06:38
MinatakuhitmanWilly: But then it also wouldn't have stages 1.5 or 206:38
TyphoidHippoI love that message06:38
namolWHERES THE DAMN .INI06:38
hitmanWillyyeah, true...06:39
Minataku"NTLDR not found... but then I didn't look very hard, so, like, whatever. Maybe later, dude."06:39
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TyphoidHippolol06:39
namolyou'06:39
mike_Do any of you know how to install from the CD without formatting the drive?06:39
MinatakuThen at the bottom of the screen06:39
namolre missing boot.ini, abort06:39
TyphoidHippo"Restart your computer at least 16 times, and then I will work."06:39
Minataku"But probably not."06:39
mike_lol06:39
mike_What program are these from, TyphoidHippo?06:40
TyphoidHippoWindows loader06:40
MinatakuWe're making up Windows NTLDR errors06:40
mike_NTLDR?06:40
TyphoidHippoyea06:40
mike_Oh, n/m06:40
mike_NT loader. Got it06:40
TyphoidHippoSo what happened Mike?06:40
namolmike_, mount the hd and plug in a jump drive or something to get your stuff back06:40
Minataku"COMMAND.COM not found. Yeah, you heard me, despite being Windows NT, I can't find a file I don't need so I'm gonna be a bitch and never work again. So there. Nyah."06:41
TyphoidHippothat's funny stuff06:41
namoli use command,com all the time06:41
namolor cmd.exe06:41
MinatakuIt's cmd.exe06:41
MinatakuCompletely and utterly different06:41
mike_TyphoidHippo: I was wondering if it's possible to install the OS without formatting the drive06:41
Minatakucmd.exe is actually a laucher for a really, really lousy VM kinda piece of crap06:41
MinatakuNTVDM06:41
hitmanWillyit sits on top of the win gui vice underneath it06:41
hitmanWillylike DOS used to06:42
MinatakuThat's a good one06:42
namoli could go for some food06:42
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TyphoidHippoehhh....  Well, I think it might be, but most modern distros simply won't let you do that.06:42
gon!opera06:42
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ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser06:42
namolcan i redeem my points for food?06:42
wers!webcam06:42
Minataku"GUI not found. Since this is Windows you're totally up sh*t creek. I'ma sit here and laugh at your poor ass now."06:42
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras06:42
MinatakuXD06:42
wers!kopete06:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:42
namolwell how are you going to install onto a partition if it's not configured06:42
TyphoidHippoHow are you going to install the OS, if you can't get any partition editor to load though?06:42
wershas anyone successfully used a webcam with kopete?06:43
TyphoidHipponamol, you are 3 seconds faster than I06:43
Minatakumike_: Are you SURE the CD is booting? I'm guessing that it's set to boot from the HDD first06:43
TyphoidHippoYour VI skills have paid off06:43
namolindeed06:43
hitmanWillyIIRC the kubuntu installer acts as a frontend for fdisk during install06:43
namolfdisk ftw06:43
MinatakuWhich is a dumbass thing to be set for but who knows what idiot computer manufacturers set their crap to these days06:43
mike_TyphoidHippo: Kubuntu did today (this is where I misstepped when following one of the tutorials). Of course, since it was installing over top of the old OS, it didn't really work06:43
RawSewagewhats  'Use index.html'  in Konqueror View06:44
TyphoidHippoman, you have a mess over there06:44
TyphoidHippoDo you have another hard drive?06:44
mike_Minataku: 110% positive. W/ cd in drive: Boots to grub prompt. W/o cd in drive: Intel boot loader fails06:44
MinatakuIt's not "Intel boot loader"06:44
mike_Err whatever it's called06:44
MinatakuIt's the BIOS bootstrap06:44
Daisuke_Idowith a live cd it shouldn't give you a grub prompt.06:44
namolit's your mom's bios bootstrap, ooooo snap06:44
Daisuke_Idoit should boot to the cd.06:44
MinatakuUnless your computer has some weird problems06:45
TyphoidHippoHe says it does boot the kubuntu live cd, though.06:45
mike_Daisuke_Ido: Yeah. That'd be nice, wouldn't it. :-)06:45
hitmanWillyim guessing its set to boot from the hdd, and when grub sees what it thinks may be a bootable hdd, it goes into prompt mode06:45
Daisuke_Idoi recommend you double-check your bios settings.06:45
Daisuke_Idoeven triple-check06:45
mike_But grub isn't on my system, I assure you06:45
hitmanWillya cd being read basically as a hdd06:45
TyphoidHippoMike:  I don't really understand how you can possibly be experiencing what you are, without a misconfigured boot order in your bios.06:45
namoli say you're boned and your home directory is shot06:46
Minatakunamol: The BIOS bootstrap's final step is to read in the loader from the designated section of the appropriate device06:46
TyphoidHippoBut I would suggest to just get another hard drive06:46
TyphoidHippoinstall kubuntu on that06:46
namolMinataku, uhh ok06:46
MinatakuFailing that, it halts the system and gives an error like "Operating System Not Found"06:46
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namoli know how a bootstrap works :P06:46
TyphoidHippothen mount your drive with your data on it, and do as you will06:46
gon!firefox06:46
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins06:46
namolwhy are you telling me?06:46
Minatakunamol: Sorry, I just didn't appreciate that remark, joke or not :P06:46
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namollol06:46
Daisuke_Idobefore "get another drive", "check bios for dumb mistake"06:47
MinatakuPlus I love talking about computers06:47
Minataku:306:47
mike_Ok. Well, thanks again for the help. I'm really gone this time. Peace06:47
hitmanWillygrub not finding anything bootable will spit out the 22 error, finding something but not configured properly will spit out the prompt06:48
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hitmanWillyIIRC06:48
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Daisuke_Idoa few plausible suggestions and he just leaves.06:48
Daisuke_Idoi swear, sometimes it's not worth chewing through the leather straps in the morning :\06:49
hitmanWillyi think its our lack of broken english and indonesian accents :P06:49
MinatakuHuh?06:49
MinatakuOh :P06:49
namolwe need generic americanised names06:49
namollike butch06:49
namoland bob06:49
Daisuke_IdoJeff06:49
hitmanWillywe obviously can't be professional tech support :P06:49
MinatakuWe can only be GOOD tech support06:50
haiyahhi, i'm about to buy this mainboard by gigabyte. its ethernet network is by realtek chipset. is debian compatible with this chipset? i read in realtek there are problems in linux06:50
Daisuke_Idoi think every outsourced tech support person i've ever talked to has been named jeff :\06:50
Admiral_ChicagohitmanWilly: realtek should be very good under linux06:50
Daisuke_Idohaiyah: i would recommend going with it.06:50
Admiral_Chicagohaiyah: ^^06:50
Admiral_ChicagohitmanWilly: sorry about the highlight,06:50
hitmanWillyyes it should, i do use it actually :P06:51
RawSewageThats not their real name.  Jeff is the only name under the GPL06:51
Daisuke_IdohitmanWilly: sorry for that one too06:51
haiyahDaisuke_Ido: hi, what do u mean by going with it?06:51
namoli've had butch and bob and craig as outsourced tech support people06:51
Daisuke_Idohaiyah: realtek, thumbs up.06:51
MinatakuCorporations that outsource HATE the GPL06:51
MinatakuThey'd rather use proprietary names06:51
namolwhenever i call dell i always get me a fine person down in texas06:51
hitmanWillylol06:51
MinatakuObviously "Jeff" is under a EULA of some sort06:51
namollol06:51
Daisuke_IdoMinataku: dell.  providing ubuntu and therefore gpl'ed software, and therefore embracing it.  outsourcing.06:51
haiyahDaisuke_Ido: ic, u mean  realtek support in debian is ok?06:51
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Daisuke_Idopoked a big friggin hole in that theory06:52
MinatakuAnd you need to pay $400 to use the name "Jeff"06:52
MinatakuOr you can pay $200 to use just "Jef"06:52
MinatakuIt sounds like "Jeff" but is missing part06:52
jarnIs there any way to get true transparency?06:52
Daisuke_Idojarn: remove the actual screen from your monitor and look through the back.06:53
MinatakuI know Broadcom makes horrible pieces of total friggin' crap06:53
jarnDaisuke_Ido: Does that mean it's impossible? :P06:53
Daisuke_Idowhat do you mean by transparency?06:53
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MinatakuFritz chip-style cards06:53
Daisuke_Idobroadcom is eeeeeevil06:53
namollol06:53
philphotook folks, got a problem.  I tried using Okle to play DVD's but it wouldn't work.  now Okle is trying to load up no matter what device I try to open.06:53
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Daisuke_Idothe fsck is okle?06:54
philphotoand I've completely removed it!06:54
Daisuke_Idoif it's loading, you haven't removed if.06:54
Daisuke_Idoit*06:54
Daisuke_Idocommon sense right there.06:54
namolapt-get remove okle06:54
philphotoI'll get you the error, one moment06:54
neptunepinkis there any particular reason why youtube videos embedded on a page never work?06:55
philphotoKDEInit could not launch Okle.  Could not find 'Okle' executable06:55
antiroachchange the default association06:55
antiroachfor dvds06:55
Daisuke_Idosweet jesus.  what horrible piece of crud associates itself with everything?06:55
namolokle does06:56
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: Commercial bullcrap06:56
namolor windows media player06:56
Daisuke_Idooh, wait.  is this a linux version of windows media player?06:56
antiroachlol06:56
MinatakuOr "free" crap from an asshole corporation06:56
MinatakuLike RealOne06:56
philphotoInit is trying to launch it for some reason.06:56
shiers69Good day gents. I just installed kubuntu on my server to play with, install went fine.  After install completed i was instructed to reboot & remove the cd.  The OS won't load - "Press any key to reboot" any ideas?06:56
MinatakuOr whatever the hell they call it this week06:56
jarnDaisuke_Ido: Transparency... where you can see through things. For example, I have my windeco set to transparent. Now, things on the bottom layer are fine. However, if something opens above those, rather than seeing the window nder it, I see a small piece of my desktop background.06:56
philphotoprobably something like that06:56
TyphoidHippoI think Belkin uses Broadcom chipsets for all their wireless cards...and everytime someone I know (god forbid, but they do it ALL the time) buys some belkin crap for a computer I am supporting (that's running linux) I drop them at least five "feedback forms" full of four letter words...  Not that they care, but it makes me feel better.  "Don't buy Belkin" "OK" "I got a new card, I can't get it to work" "It's a b06:56
Minatakushiers69: Press the any key yet?06:56
Daisuke_Idothat's not real transparency06:57
philphotoanyway I might get around this?06:57
shiers69yeah, didn't work :-P06:57
namoli don't have the any key, what do i do??06:57
TyphoidHippoI think we may have moved past the broadcom topic, but I wanted to share anyway.06:57
Minatakushiers69: Heh06:57
Daisuke_Idofor real transparency, look at beryl or compiz06:57
MinatakuTyphoidHippo: And from what I've heard they used to be good06:57
jarnDaisuke_Ido: I know, that's what I meant. That's not true transparency.06:57
MinatakuBut yeah, Broadcom chips with their encrypted firmware and totally useless "drivers"06:57
jarnDaisuke_Ido: It's not true transparency, but I want true transparency.06:57
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Daisuke_Idoberyl and compiz most certainly do provide real transparency06:58
TyphoidHippoMinataku: I've never heard that...but I know I despise that company and all their cheap pieces of dung.06:58
namolTyphoidHippo, learn to use ndiswrapper06:58
TyphoidHippoThat make linux look bad to a lot of people I know....because they work fine in Windows.06:58
Minatakushiers69: It sounds like nothing is in the MBR06:59
TyphoidHippoyea, I should06:59
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TyphoidHippoI will06:59
TyphoidHippothat's a good point06:59
MinatakuDid it install GRUB properly?06:59
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shiers69f if i know06:59
MinatakuDid you leave something in a drive?06:59
MinatakuIf you're not willing to actually make an effort, why are you bothering?06:59
philphotoanyone have any ideas with my problem?06:59
shiers69nope, manually erased the partition(s) on the disk before installing06:59
MinatakuSorry, it's 1AM here and I'm getting cranky07:00
Minataku>.<07:00
shiers69only 12 here07:00
namol1am here07:00
namoltime for bed07:00
shiers69i've done plenty of searching and havn't found anything yet07:00
Minatakushiers69: Try to boot the HDD from the Kubuntu install CD07:00
shiers69k, 1 sec07:00
MinatakuAfter that, attempt to reinstall GRUB onto the HDD's MBR07:00
namolnight07:01
shiers69nope, didn't work07:01
shiers69"press a key to reboot"07:02
shiers69weeee07:02
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shiers69should i boot to the livecd again and work on grub from there?07:05
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mike_Surprise surprise...07:06
mike_Looks like I might as well just stay in here til I get this sorted out.07:06
mike_I'm giving installing from the text installer w/o formatting the drive a shot. Just a quick question about configuring the primary partition - Under "Partition Settings" where it says "Bootable flag" - That should be set to "on," right?07:07
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TyphoidHippoI'm outta here for the time being, guys.  you've all been great.  Have a good night everyone.07:08
sfiremike_: I would think so07:08
mike_G'nite TyphoidHippo07:08
sfiremike_: were you the one from earlier trying to save the /home/ partition and format the rest?07:09
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mike_Right07:09
sfireI use the graphical installer07:09
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sfirebut the text mode would work if you really wanna go that way07:09
mike_sfire: Already tried that. QtParted was giving me problems07:09
Daisuke_Idomike_: go with gparted07:09
mike_I usually use the text mode installer anyway - just feels quicker.07:09
mike_Daisuke_Ido: GParted didn't boot07:10
Daisuke_Ido(and yes, you can install it from the live cd, pre-partition your drives)07:10
Daisuke_Idoubuh.07:10
mike_Daisuke_Ido: The bootable flag for the primary partition (mount point: /) should be set to on, right?07:11
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mike_I know it's a stupid question, but after frigging everything up, I'm trying not to do anything I'm not at least 99.9% sure about07:11
Daisuke_Idoyes07:12
Tm_Tofcourse07:12
sfireawww.. but doing it twice is so so so much fun07:13
Tm_Tsfire:07:13
Tm_Tsfire:07:14
sfire?07:14
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mike_sfire: Agreed, but I've done it twice about 50 times today. Starts becoming a little tedious at some point. :-P07:14
mike_This seems a bit strange though.....07:15
Tm_Tsfire: DUCK!07:15
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sfireducks even07:15
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shiers69Daisuke_Ido: I just installed kubuntu w/ the graphical setup from the livecd, i've got a scsi drive that i'm dedicating to it and I'm letting it take over the whole drive. it installs fine, but upon reboot my machine fails to load the os07:15
shiers69probably a grub issue, but that should also be installed on that drive07:15
Tm_Tok, time to go to work, remember to behave, kids07:16
mike_Later Tm_T07:16
sfireof course ;-)07:16
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mike_In the partition table, there were only two partitions - #1 (/) and #2 (swap) and there's no free space at all. Every other time I've installed, swap's always been at #5, with a small amount of free space I can't relocate, and no other partitions are listed, even though swap is at #507:17
octoberdanHow do I add a DNS suffix with knetworkmanager like I can with nm-applet?07:17
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octoberdanDNS Suffix Search List or something07:18
mike_I hope I haven't completely effed this drive07:18
Daisuke_Idomike_: it means it's putting swap on a primary partition rather than a logical one07:18
Daisuke_Idothe drive should be fine07:18
octoberdancan't find it in "Manual Configuration07:18
mike_Daisuke_Ido: That's ok, right?07:18
octoberdanare there config files for that stuff?07:18
mike_I'm guessing if I wanted to dual boot two Linux OS's, I'd want swap to be logical so it could be shared by them?07:19
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mike_!lvm07:20
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO07:20
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octoberdanHow do I set my DNS suffix?07:24
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jarnWhy can I not see the contents of my disc? When I put it in the drive and close it, the box saying a new disc is in pops up and I select "open in new window" and it shows it. However, if I then close that and navigate to the mount at which it is mounted (/media/cdrom0) it doesn't show anything in the folder.07:24
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octoberdanTriffid_Hunter: octoberdan: echo "search suffixhere" >> /etc/resolv.conf07:26
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mike_Umm....07:28
mike_YEEEESSSSSSS07:28
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mike_Just got the OS reinstalled without any need for repartitioning to save my data07:30
jzillai did that eariler ;o07:30
mike_Frickin' beautiful. Been working on that on and off all day07:30
jzillait was so badass07:30
mike_jzilla: How'd you do it?07:30
jzillai have /home on a 2nd HD07:30
mike_Ohh... Using LVM?07:31
jzillanope07:31
jzillajust pop'd the cd in, told it to format the first hd, leave 2nd alone and remount /home to it07:31
jzillaworked like a charm, even kept my desktop wallpaper, relaunched irc and everything when i booted up07:32
mike_Mine wasn't quite as clean, but it appears to have worked perfectly so far07:32
mike_jzilla: Nice07:32
mike_Having only one hard drive, and no success with QtParted, GParted, or SuperGRUB, I booted the live CD, mounted hda1 to /media/hda1, deleted EVERYTHING except what I was saving, then rebooted into the text installer and told it not to format the drive07:34
mike_!worksforme07:34
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.07:34
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jzillanice07:36
jzillai would have screwd that up07:36
mike_lol07:37
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mike_I was on pins and needles during the installation07:37
jzillayeah i bet07:37
mike_hehe07:37
jzillathe bunutu install process though07:37
jzillais by far the best OS install ive ever seen07:37
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mike_It always irritates me when people say having a step for partitioning would be confusing for Windows users07:40
mike_*could07:41
jzillafor alot of people, i could agree07:41
jzillabut at the same time, if it didnt, i coudnt use it ;\07:41
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mike_Well, Windows has a partitioning step too, but considering Windows has to be on the primary partition, it's practically useless07:42
jzillamost people that would be confused by the partion step are the people that bought their computers presinstalled.07:44
jzillai would think anyway07:44
mike_True07:44
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pagan0nehey guys, i know this is a bit off topic, but has anyone here compiled kiba for amd64 yet? if so, im having some trouble with deps, i would appreciate some help07:54
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pagan0neanyone know what package i need to install to satisfy a dependency for gnome-desktop-2.0 ?07:56
mike_pagan0ne: Sorry, no idea. You might ask the folks in #desktop-effects - I'd say you're more likely to find someone who knows there07:56
pagan0nemike_: thanks, #kiba-dock (the channel the website refeers you to) has apparently been abandon07:57
mike_pagan0ne: Any particular reason you're compiling for source? Does the version in Trevino's repo. not work on 64-bit?07:57
mike_pagan0ne: No problem07:57
pagan0nemike_: yeah theres no precompiled 64bit version yet07:57
mike_Oh ok07:57
mike_pagan0ne: Newbish question...07:58
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pagan0nemike_: what mine or yours? lol07:58
mike_pagan0ne: If you've got a 64-bit OS installed, does that mean you can only install deb's that are compiled specifically for 64-bit?07:58
mike_mine :-)07:58
pagan0nemike_: pretty much, i have a "hack" going to get flash working under 64 bit, but its my understanding, unless its compiled 64 bit, it doesnt work07:59
mike_Oh ok. Had been wondering about that for a while. Thanks for clearing it up08:00
pagan0nemike_: put it this way, i added Trevino's repo and i cant even see any kiba apps in adept08:00
mike_Makes me feel a little bit better about still having a 32-bit processor. :-P08:00
mike_Wow08:00
jzillai just formated away from a 64 bit os this morning08:01
pagan0nemike_: i just upgraded last week, i wouldnt feel too much better about it :D08:01
mike_hehe08:02
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mike_Well I need to get out of here. G'nite, everyone08:05
pagan0neso... anyone know what package will fill the dependency for gnome-desktop-2.0?08:06
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G3NESISCan someone help? Apt is saying another process is using the application plugin database.08:11
G3NESISI can't find any other opne applications that would.08:12
insmod<G3NESIS> ps -aux08:12
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G3NESISps -aux?08:12
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insmod<G3NESIS> ya pipe through less to read08:12
pagan0neG3NESIS: sudo dpkg --configure -a08:13
jack-or lsof08:13
insmodnever used win but my father in-law asked if i can convert his m4p files -- any idea ?08:14
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flowingfireHello. :)  I have a PCMCIA card in my computer... I just installed the driver using NDISWRAPPER... I also installed the PCMCIA utilities for ubuntu.... Now, I can get the computer to recognize another networking device, but it doesn't work.  Any ideas.08:14
flowingfire("Just Works" my ass, lol)08:15
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G3NESISThanks guys.08:16
insmod<flowingfire>ndiswrapper -l08:16
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flowingfireinsmod ... Ok.  one sec08:17
pagan0neG3NESIS: np, i had trouble with that myself08:17
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flowingfireinsmod: When I type that it says, "08:17
flowingfirelsbcmnds : driver installed08:17
flowingfire        device (14E4:4320) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)08:17
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insmod<flowingfire> cool is that the card08:18
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flowingfireinsmod: Yup.  It's a Linksys...08:18
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insmod<flowingfire> what does iwconfig say08:18
flowingfirewhat do I type?  just iwconfig/08:19
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flowingfireHmm... What does this mean?08:19
flowingfireeth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:""  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"08:19
flowingfire          Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid08:19
flowingfire          RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off08:19
flowingfire          Link Quality=0/100  Signal level=-256 dBm  Noise level=-256 dBm08:19
flowingfire          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:008:19
flowingfire          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:008:19
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insmod<flowingfire> do you have an eth0 card -- that is it08:20
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flowingfireYes... The eth0 card is what I'm talking to you with. :)08:21
insmod<flowingfire> eth0 is net card and wlan0 is usually wireless08:21
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flowingfirehmmm08:22
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insmod<flowingfire> anything else from iwconfig08:22
flowingfirei'll pastebin it... ubuntu.pastebin.nl?08:22
insmod<flowingfire> then just clean any loaded linux moduals and edit interfaces and done08:23
flowingfirehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25063/08:24
insmod<flowingfire> hmm why use eth0 for wireless ?08:24
flowingfirei guess i'm confused... honestly, i barely know what i'm doing here...08:25
insmod<flowingfire>ndiswrapper default is wlan0 -- that said i use aut008:25
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insmodaht008:26
genesisCan someone please tell me the best way to install Gtk+?08:26
flowingfireohhhhhh okk.....08:26
insmod<flowingfire> post lsmod and cat /etc/network/interfaces08:26
genesisI'm having all these issues with compiling.08:26
crdlbgenesis, what are you trying to compile?08:26
genesisAll the dependencies.08:27
crdlbof gtk?08:27
flowingfireHere is lsmod http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25064/08:27
genesisThe one I'm having trouble with is libpng.08:27
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crdlbgenesis, just install it from the repositories08:28
flowingfirehere is the other one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25065/08:28
insmod<flowingfire> k 2 secs08:29
crdlb!info libgtk2.0-0 | genesis08:29
ubotugenesis: libgtk2.0-0: The GTK+ graphical user interface library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.11-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 2481 kB, installed size 5372 kB08:29
flowingfirethx08:29
genesisI've tried install from the rep but then when I compile pidgin I get an error saying I don't have it.08:30
crdlbgenesis, why are you trying to compile pidgin?08:30
crdlbuse a package08:30
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crdlband you need to install the -dev packages08:30
crdlbif you wanted to compile pidgin08:30
crdlbgenesis, http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=95508:31
genesisI need handbook for linux.08:31
crdlbhandbook?08:32
flowingfireWeird... It says "hardware present: no" in the graphical utility...  But my PCMCIA card lights up saying it's powered by the computer... ubuntu has all the necessary pcmcia stuff installed...08:32
genesisI didn't even know a place like that existed.08:32
genesisWhy don't they just put this up on the Pidgin site?08:32
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insmod<flowingfire> what linksys card is it08:34
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cr4sh!ntfs08:34
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse08:34
flowingfireWPC54GS 1.108:34
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insmod<flowingfire> is there a linux driver ?08:35
flowingfirenot that i'm aware of08:35
flowingfirei checked on the linksys site and in adept08:36
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flowingfireonly windows infs08:36
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SillyZwoohooo! Kubuntu up and rockin!08:36
SillyZthanks for all the help here yall08:36
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insmod<flowingfire> no no lol i mean one that maybe loading08:36
SillyZtwo quick things.... 1, that bouncy damn icon on the mouse pointer.... how to remove it ?08:37
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flowingfireI just uninstalled it to try again.. Yes.  I had it ndiswrapped, and the computer recognized it.... It just wasn't talking w/ the hardware for some reason... But the computer is obviously able to communicate w/ the hardware08:37
louis_hey guys08:37
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louis_Question:  I have an ATI Radeon x300 (128 mb) how can I tell if I can run XGL?08:38
insmod<flowingfire>: no u don't get it there are linux native drivers and windows drivers that use ndis -- is there a native driver08:38
mattsqzlouis: you can08:39
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louis_mattsqz, hello again =)08:39
mattsqzfglrx = ati glx driver08:39
flowingfireNo, I do not think there is a native driver...08:39
mattsqzhey ;)08:39
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louis_okay, so it's just a matter of sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager emerald-theme08:40
cr4shhi, i have got a problem with installing kubuntu on a hdd with ntfs partitions. I cant access it with qtparted, since there are "No Implementation"s, but ntfstools/progs are installed08:40
mattsqzyou need fglrx working properly08:40
SillyZany ideas on how to remove the bouncy icon thing on the mouse pointer after clicking on something?08:40
louis_mattsqz, what does that mean?  fglrx = ati glx driver?  I'm not well versed in these things08:40
louis_so i need to install fglrx and then what?08:40
louis_apt-get install beryl?08:41
genesisOk I tried install pidgin from the package and I still got dependcy errors.08:41
SillyZmattsqz, you want my honest opinion.... I just paid for an Nvidia card so I didnt have to deal with the ATI card thats in my laptop08:41
mattsqzthen you need to make sure its in your xorg.conf correctly08:41
SillyZthats how much I hated the ATI drivers, and their lack of development08:41
mattsqzalso theres something you need to run..08:41
louis_what's the xorg.conf?08:41
mattsqzyeah, but this guy just wants to try it out not go haywire with motion blur08:41
louis_lol and what do i need to run?08:41
SillyZdownload the ati drivers from ati08:41
SillyZdpkg -i ati....deb08:42
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mattsqznah apt-get xorg-driver-fglrx08:42
SillyZaticonfig --initial --overlay=Xv08:42
crdlblouis_, why do you want to use Xgl?08:42
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louis_crdlb, it looks pretty?08:42
insmod<flowingfire>: modprobe ndiswrapper08:42
crdlblouis_, didn't you get the free driver working?08:42
crdlblouis_, Xgl itself doesn't have any effects, and you don't need it if you use the free driver08:42
louis_i havent tried anything yet, i barely got my firefox working08:42
louis_okay i'm really confused now08:43
flowingfireinsmod: modprobe ndiswrapper gave me a blank lin08:43
mattsqzhttp://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-linux-with-ati.html08:43
mattsqzgo there08:43
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crdlblouis_, /j #ubuntu-effects08:43
louis_i was hoping to get the squiggly windows, crazy cubes, and transparency effects08:43
SillyZ!remove bouncy icon08:43
crdlbyes you can get those with the free driver+aiglx+beryl08:43
insmod<flowingfire>: cool08:43
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mattsqzsudo apt-get install xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 beryl emerald-themes beryl-settings xorg-driver-fglrx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`08:43
mattsqzthat should do it08:43
louis_mattsqz, the site you mentioned is for dapper, will it still work?08:43
mattsqzthen run this08:43
SillyZ!remove mouse notification08:44
crdlblouis_, don't run that08:44
insmod<flowingfire>: means it wan't loaded -- now iwconfig08:44
mattsqzsudo aticonfig --initial08:44
jacqueshi there08:44
mattsqzitll work you just have to be aware of differences08:44
louis_what are the differences?08:44
flowingfirelo        no wireless extensions.08:44
flowingfireeth0      no wireless extensions.08:44
crdlblouis_, run this: glxinfo|grep direct08:44
mattsqzwell you're using kubuntu for example so youll use kate instead of gedit08:44
mattsqzfor one08:44
jacquesIs there another mirror to download kubuntu gutsy tribe108:44
crdlblouis_, in a terminal08:44
louis_ooh right okay08:44
louis_crdlb, yeah08:45
insmod<flowingfire>: ifconfig08:45
mattsqzyou can also ignore some of the xgl startup scripts08:45
flowingfirelots of gobble-dee-gook08:45
mattsqzin that link08:45
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flowingfirefor my wired card, of course08:45
mattsqzhttp://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html08:46
mattsqzthats newer but same basic stuff08:46
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louis_okay ... let me take this from the beginning08:46
louis_do i need fglrx?08:46
mattsqzthe only thing most of these guides dont tell you is that you need to isntall the main beryl package from the beryl repos, the rest can come from the normal kubuntu repos08:47
mattsqzyes08:47
mattsqzyou need it08:47
louis_bc i feel like mattsqz and crdlb are telling me two different things08:47
crdlblouis_, no08:47
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louis_sorry, hate to be a pain =)08:47
insmod<flowingfire>: looks good so far08:47
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crdlblouis_, fglrx is unnecessary and will make beryl much harder to set up08:47
insmod<flowingfire>: what does ifdown wlan0 say08:47
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mattsqzso you want him to run it in software accel?08:47
crdlbno08:47
crdlbthe free driver supports the x30008:48
jacquesI am not able to download gutsy from the ubuntu site.08:48
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flowingfireifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied08:48
jacquesis there another mirror?08:48
mattsqzfglrx seems simple..install, change driver in xorg.conf..08:48
crdlbmattsqz, Xgl isn't08:48
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crdlbespecially not with beryl08:48
insmod<flowingfire>: what does sudo fdown wlan0 say08:48
mattsqzgetting xgl working with my kubuntu was simple08:48
louis_okay lol i hate to dissappoint either of you but i'll give crdlb's advice a shot08:49
louis_crdlb, direct rendering: yes08:49
crdlbif aiglx doesn't work, you can always use the fglrx+Xgl route08:49
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flowingfiresudo: fdown: command not found08:50
llutzhi08:50
insmod<flowingfire>: sudo ifdown wlan008:50
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flowingfireifdown: interface wlan0 not configured08:52
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mattsqzim also using beryl from the ubuntu repos, not svn.08:52
insmod<flowingfire>: cool08:52
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insmod<flowingfire>: sudo ndiswrapper08:53
flowingfireHmm... one minute... brb08:53
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louis_what's the konsole command for uninstall?08:54
flowingfireIt just gave me a command list for ndiswrapper08:54
louis_and what's the difference between uninstall and purge in adept?08:55
insmod<flowingfire>: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper08:55
flowingfiresudo modprobe ndiswrapper08:55
opengpluxhey08:55
flowingfirelol i needed to do that in the terminal08:55
insmod:)08:55
flowingfireOk... It just gave me another line. :)08:55
insmod<flowingfire>: iwconfig08:55
insmod<flowingfire>: sudo iwconfig08:56
flowingfiresame as before08:56
flowingfirelo        no wireless extensions.08:56
flowingfireeth0      no wireless extensions.08:56
insmod<flowingfire>: sudo ndiswrapper -m08:56
flowingfireadding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper ...08:57
insmod<flowingfire>: iwconfig08:57
insmod<flowingfire>: sudo iwconfig08:57
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flowingfirelo        no wireless extensions.08:57
flowingfireeth0      no wireless extensions.08:57
insmod<flowingfire>: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart08:58
flowingfirelots of errors08:58
flowingfirenotably,08:59
flowingfireSIOCSIFADDR: No such device08:59
flowingfirewlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device08:59
flowingfirewlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device08:59
flowingfireBind socket to interface: No such device08:59
flowingfireFailed to bring up wlan0.08:59
insmod<flowingfire>: k reboot should then work08:59
flowingfire:)  Ok... Brb then. :)08:59
flowingfirethanks for the help... I'll be back w/ the details.08:59
insmodk08:59
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louis_what's the difference between uninstall and purge in adept?09:02
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insmod<louis_> program vrs program and configs09:03
flowingfireHello I'm back.... Still no wireless... And like before, my computer detects my Linksys card as eth1... And it's not working, but it has the driver installed and is lit up like a Christmas tree09:03
mattsqzwelp..decompressing kde to the nokia..hope it works this time :)09:04
louis_insmod, what do you mean?09:04
insmod<flowingfire>eth1 i the installed lan card09:04
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louis_oh nvm09:04
louis_i get it09:04
louis_so when you purge it gets rid of all the customizations and configurations along with it09:04
insmod<louis_> the first doe not remove the config files09:05
louis_kinda like deleting windows registry entries for a program09:05
louis_except this isnt windows?09:05
flowingfireeth0 was the installed lan card i thought...09:05
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insmod<louis_> not acording to your ifconfig -- it can be any 0 is usually what it grabs09:06
insmod<flowingfire> not acording to your ifconfig -- it can be any 0 is usually what it grabs09:06
insmodsorry09:06
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insmod<louis_> no just prefrences09:06
flowingfirek..09:07
insmod<flowingfire> what does sudo iwconfig say09:07
flowingfirelo        no wireless extensions.09:08
flowingfireeth0      no wireless extensions.09:08
flowingfireeth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:""  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"09:08
flowingfire          Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid09:08
flowingfire          RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off09:08
flowingfire          Encryption key:off09:08
flowingfire          Link Quality=0/100  Signal level=-256 dBm  Noise level=-256 dBm09:08
flowingfire          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:009:08
flowingfire          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:009:08
markkuIs there a way to start network automatically without having to click through KNetworkManager every startup?09:08
insmod<markku>add an rc.d file09:09
insmod<flowingfire> k what does ifconfig say09:09
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insmod<flowingfire> did you tie anything to eth0 before -- that may be the prob09:10
flowingfireinsmod: When I go into the graphical configuration for it, it calls eth1 a "Disabled Wireless Network Device"09:10
Tm_T!paste | flowingfire09:10
ubotuflowingfire: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:10
flowingfireWhen I go to enable it, it errors09:10
insmod<flowingfire> never use graphics for a mans job09:10
cr4shhow do I install kubuntu on a harddrive with existing ntfs partitions (qtparted crashes when it tries to load the drive)09:11
flowingfirehere is ifconfig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25066/09:12
insmod<flowingfire> k know that is totally diff eth0 is now running the lan card09:13
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insmod<flowingfire> get rid of all the other stuff in interfaces -- keep wlan0 -- did you ever edit the ndiswrapper file ?09:14
insmod<flowingfire> and is it the recomended driver off the site or off the cd09:15
flowingfirei'm using the driver from linksys for this exact model for windows09:15
flowingfirebt it simply won't enable09:15
flowingfireweird09:15
flowingfiretheir website.... .inf file...09:15
insmod<flowingfire> that's why09:15
flowingfireack.09:16
flowingfirei dunno what else there is09:16
insmod<flowingfire> ndiswrapper uses based off chipset09:16
insmod<flowingfire> what kind is it again09:16
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flowingfire???09:16
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flowingfireSo how do i get this working to begin with? i don't get it.... i couldn't find any native driver, so I downloaded the windows one.... then I used ndiswrapper to make it work... and it doesn't work.. lol09:17
insmod<flowingfire> you need the working win driver with ndis -- not all work09:18
insmod<flowingfire> you need to get it off there site09:18
flowingfiredo they have an ndis driver09:18
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insmod<flowingfire> of course09:19
flowingfire... all I see is drivers... nothing labeled ndis09:19
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insmod<flowingfire> on the ndis site09:20
insmod<flowingfire> are you like brand new09:20
flowingfireuggh sorry sort of... if you consider months new brand new...09:21
insmod<flowingfire> ya i do09:21
flowingfireI have the x-server and xorg.conf mastered.... lol.... not this09:21
krautmoin09:21
flowingfireand that's fun to edit09:21
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insmod<flowingfire> lol09:22
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DemonSamuraihow do i convert an .rpm into a .deb file?09:32
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deweyhmmm use alien09:32
DemonSamuraiyes but how exactly09:32
DemonSamuraii installed it09:32
DemonSamuraiand i used alien -d name.rpm09:33
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DemonSamuraidewey?09:33
vip3rousmangoanyone know of a general ubuntu chat chan, rather than support/help?09:34
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DemonSamuraianyone can help me about alien?09:42
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crimsunspecifically?09:45
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nullkuhlrxvt-unicode09:52
Tm_Tnullkuhl: hum?09:53
nullkuhlsryy .. what is xterm and wat is rxvt ?09:54
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Tm_Tboth are graphical terminal emulators09:54
Tm_Tshortly, shell or terminal09:54
=== fotoflo just switched from ubuntu to kubuntu - i used to have it setup so i had 9 desktops (in ticktacktow shape) and i used ctl+alt + an arrow key to switch between them ... now in kde i have 6 desktops and the only way to switch seems to be to roll the mouse wheel over the desktop - how do i change that?
mattsqzfotoflo: beryl? :)09:56
fotofloberyl?09:57
mattsqzyes09:57
jzillaim guessing thats a no09:57
jzillaheh09:57
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mattsqzhttp://video.google.com/videosearch?um=1&tab=wv&client=firefox-a&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=beryl09:58
fotoflogoogling09:58
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Tm_Tfotoflo: hmm, check your hotkey settings09:58
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Tm_Tfotoflo: it's KDE, you can control it ;)09:59
fotoflothere is now way to do this with kde?10:00
jzillafotoflo: run kcontrol from a term10:00
fotofloTm_T, where would those hotkeys be located?10:00
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faidillingercompiz rocks10:00
jzillathen look for "Regional & Accessibilty"10:00
jzillaKeyboard Shortcuts will be found there.10:00
fotoflocool10:00
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Tm_Thmm, I thought system settings have search function10:01
jzillakcontrol has a search box at the top10:01
fotoflowow10:01
Tm_Thmm, so does systemsettings10:01
mattsqzberyl with kde? defenitely10:01
fotoflothey do10:01
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Tm_Tsearch function <310:02
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movieguyhi10:02
Tm_Tfotoflo: got it?10:02
movieguyi ran an adept system update earlier today and now after i've rebooted kdm just keeps restarting instead of going into xwindows10:03
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movieguyeven when i try safemod10:03
movieguye10:03
DemonSamuraianyon can help with ATI drivers?10:04
Tm_Tmovieguy: check grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:04
Tm_TDemonSamurai: nope if you can't specify your problem10:05
Tm_T!ati | DemonSamurai10:05
ubotuDemonSamurai: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:05
DemonSamurai!ati10:05
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BadRobothi there is there any good compressing applications to convert files from zip to tar10:05
BadRobot?10:05
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movieguyTm_T: what's that suppose to tell me?10:06
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Tm_Tmovieguy: grep EE will show only lines containing EE from your X log, EE lines are mostly errors10:06
movieguyah10:07
Tm_Tso, if your X is broken, it hopefully tells how10:07
Tm_Tyou know "doesn't work" isn't very accurate ;)10:07
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movieguygrep didn't return crap10:08
movieguynothing useful anyways10:08
movieguyjust the line that tells you EE is error10:08
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movieguyi'm gonna install ircii so i can paste stuff10:09
G3NESIS!Ipod10:09
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod10:09
fotoflocool10:09
fotoflohmm dont like the walkthrough desktops10:09
fotofloi liked the fact that my desktops were in a 3x3 grid in gnome10:09
fotoflocant change that can i?10:09
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douglettin console form10:11
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nullkuhlguys wat is xterm and rxvt10:12
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crimsunnullkuhl: two terminal emulators10:13
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nullkuhlwat is the use of terminal emulators then ?10:13
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crimsunwell, as you might surmise from the phrase, they are used to emulate certain families of terminals.10:13
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movieguyhmm10:14
ninHerhi all10:14
crimsunessentially, they provide a friendly shell-based command line interface10:14
louis_WOOHOO! xgl is rollin!10:14
fotoflowow kde is SO much better then gnome10:14
louis_anybody know if fluxbox and xgl can work together?10:14
movieguyi tried doing apt-get -u dist-upgrade but that didn't help10:14
louis_fotoflo, amen!10:14
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fotofloi think its still got its problems, but gnome didnt even have specific graphics drivers for my intel onboard video10:15
douglett10:15
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douglett> Warning:          Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but <RALT> has 2 symbols10:16
douglett>                   Ignoring extra symbols10:16
douglett> Error:            bad length in CompatMap10:16
douglett>                   Output file "/var/tmp/server-0.xkm" removed10:16
douglettthat's what i get when i try to do startx from console10:16
fotoflognome till does multiple desktops better, in my opinion10:16
douglettwell that's the tail end of it10:16
louis_anybody know if fluxbox and xgl are compatible?10:16
mattsqzman, i really wish ark had a start to finish meter instead of just a little bouncing "busy" bar10:16
crimsunlouis_: they are, but what you intend to do may not be.10:17
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douglettshould i just apt-get install kdm over again? i'm pretty frustrated and nothing seems to be working10:18
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douglettnm10:20
douglettany suggestions?10:20
dougletti'd hate to reinstall after all the configurations i've already done but nothing seems to be working10:20
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ardchoilledouglett: What is the problem?10:22
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dougletti did an system update with adept earlier today10:23
dougletti just rebooted like 15mins ago and now i can't get into xwindows10:23
douglettit goes to the kdm login screen and when i login nothing happens10:23
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douglettit tries, and then takes me right back to the login screen10:24
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douglettit's the x login screen (not the console one)10:24
ardchoilledouglett: Also, if youput all those "configurations" into a bash script, then reinstalling is fast and easy. I have all configs in a master script that I run and the system is configured (after a new install) while I go have lunch :)10:24
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douglettwell to be honest i'd hate to reinstall10:25
dougletteverything has been working great for months10:25
louis_darn modem...10:25
louis_anybody know if fluxbox is compatible with xgl?10:25
louis_i'm not sure how these things work10:25
douglettthere was some sort of error when adept was doing it's thing but i just figured it was a bad package so i didn't pay much attention to it10:25
dougletti had no idea i wouldn't be able to boot back into xwindows10:26
ardchoilledouglett: I'd like to check something, you with me?10:26
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dougletti tried doing an apt-get update, apt-get -u upgrade  and it didn't do anything10:26
douglettsure10:26
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douglettanything productive, that is10:27
G3NESIS!Ipod10:27
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod10:27
ardchoilledouglett: ctrl+alt+f1, log in and do: ls -la .*authority10:28
ardchoilledouglett: See if root owns either of those files.10:28
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tahsincan anyone help me with KBFX ?10:30
tahsin?10:31
dougletthmm10:31
douglettshit10:31
douglettokay10:31
nullkuhlguys how to have a colored syntax and so on in a terminal ?10:31
tahsini cant change the KBFX theme10:31
movieguy.ICEauthority and .Xauthority came up10:31
tahsinwho do i change it10:32
movieguy- douglett10:32
movieguy-10:32
movieguy<-10:32
louis_any of you guys know wheter or not i can run fluxbox and beryl/emerald/xgl at the same time?10:32
nullkuhlguys how to have a colored syntax and so on in a terminal ?10:33
tahsinanyone to help ?10:33
douglettwhat was the point of that?10:33
nullkuhl?10:33
douglettnot you10:33
douglett--color btw10:34
ardchoilledouglett: The point was to see if root owns either of those files, which can cause the problem you're saying you have.10:34
louis_I guess nobody  knows...10:34
douglettroot doesn't10:34
ardchoilledouglett: Ownership of those files can sometimes be changed to root if you use sudo to launch a gui app instead of using kdesu.10:34
douglettit's my username10:34
ardchoilledouglett: Ok, but it was worth checking on.10:35
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douglett-rw------- 1 douglett douglett 0 2007-06-11 03:49 .ICEauthority10:35
douglett-rw------- 1 douglett douglett 0 2007-06-11 04:05 .Xauthority10:35
ardchoilleThat's the way it should be, so that isn't the problem.10:35
douglettya10:35
dougletti'm exactly new to linux, but i'm stumped nevertheless10:36
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ardchoilledouglett: You might try: cat ~/.xsession-errors   and see if it gives any info10:36
douglettshould i send u the xorg log file?10:36
ardchoilledouglett: You can pastebin it10:36
ardchoille!pastebin10:37
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:37
douglettit's blank10:37
douglettcool10:37
douglettokay10:37
dougletthmm10:37
douglettlooks like i have to install link10:37
ardchoilledouglett: You're xorg.conf is blank?!10:37
dougletti had no idea i wouldn't be able to boot back into xwindowshaha10:38
douglettno man10:38
douglettthe .xsession-errors is blank10:38
ardchoilleAh, ok10:38
douglettthe console browser is called link right?10:38
douglettit's been so long i can't remember10:39
dougletthm10:39
douglettfrick10:39
ardchoilleThere are a few: links, lynx, elinks, etc. I use elinks.10:39
douglettah ha10:39
douglettlynx10:39
douglettthat's it10:39
dougletti'll give elinks a try10:40
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dougletti must say, there's something about being in console that makes a man feel leet10:40
opengplux:)10:40
ardchoilledouglett: If you're going to be working in a console, you might look into using screen. You can use screen to have several windows in one tty. I often use screen + irssi (chat) + elinks + mutt (email) and don't even have xorg running.10:41
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douglettdang10:42
ardchoilleMy xorg broke last month and I was like "pffft, I'll fix it next week" and I went back to chatting in this channel :)10:42
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GharbeiaHi, Ihave no trouble roaming with open and WPA wireless, but not WEP. How can Imake WEPwork? In KNetworkManager, it never goes beyond "configuring"10:42
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movieguyardchoille: it's cool man10:43
movieguyi have my labtop right next to me10:43
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douglettdouglett2 /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:45
douglettdammit10:45
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jjjjhello guys...10:47
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haiyahhi my /var/log/mysql.log is building up like 900mb now.. where can i set it to be gzipped automatically? its taking up my / diskspace10:48
jjjjhello i installed kubuntu feisty and i was really confused why I cant install firefox using ad/remove programs...other programs are also grayed and unselectable...it seems that the cd as well as my installation doesn't contain the packages...is this normal?10:49
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douglett2how do u view the paste log?10:50
jzillajjjj: sudo apt-get install firefox10:51
jzillarun that in konsole10:51
jjjjapt-get as well as dpkg doesn't work...10:51
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jzillahmm..10:51
tahsinwhy does KBFX config say INVALID BASE PATH ?10:52
dougletti think i pissed the website off10:52
jjjjuhmm one thing, I installed kubuntu not by using a CD but by copying the installer to the harddrive then editing my previous grub options to boot in the casper/initrd images...does that affect how my programs installed?10:53
jjjjhello i installed kubuntu feisty and i was really confused why I cant install firefox using ad/remove programs...other programs are also grayed and unselectable...it seems that the cd as well as my installation doesn't contain the packages...is this normal? uhmm one thing, I installed kubuntu not by using a CD but by copying the installer to the harddrive then editing my previous grub options to boot in the casper/initrd images...does that affect how my programs i10:53
douglettq10:55
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waltercoolhi there... someone?10:57
JohnFluxjjjj: go to Settings->Repositories10:57
JohnFluxjjjj: and turn on everything10:57
JohnFluxwaltercool: nobody here :-D10:57
waltercoolxDDD10:57
waltercoolJohnFlux: An question... how is kubuntu??10:57
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JohnFluxwaltercool: still trying to achieve sentience10:58
waltercoolJohnFlux: Im using  Sabayon and make something takes too time (installing), how is kubuntu in that?10:58
jjjjI have no internet connection for now at my kubuntu pc...I just want to know if i do need first to connect to the internet before i can install firefox, krita, and even the games, OR the LIVE CD already contains them?10:59
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waltercoolJohnFlux: Or... what difference exists between adept and portage?10:59
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JohnFluxwaltercool: everything is already compiled in (k)ubuntu11:01
douglettargh11:01
waltercoolJohnFlux: But works like portage? (install type)11:01
JohnFluxwaltercool: mostly11:01
haiyahhi my /var/log/mysql.log is building up like 900mb now.. where can i set it to be gzipped automatically? its taking up my / diskspace11:02
waltercoolwow... cool, i need buy a cd and i will test kubuntu :)11:02
waltercoolim a KDE friend xD and i dont like too much mixed kde-gnome distros xD11:02
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JohnFluxhaiyah: look at /etc/logrotate11:04
JohnFluxhaiyah: look at /etc/logrotate.conf11:04
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douglettokay11:06
douglettit's pasted11:06
douglettthe tail end of it anyhow, probably the only thing that's uuseful11:07
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dougletteverything beforehand was just (**) and (II)11:07
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mato_11:08
matohei11:08
matoMitenk saisin tan nappiksen suomen kieliseks11:08
matohallooo11:08
ardchoilleHello, which language is that?11:08
matohi11:09
matoI speak finnish11:09
pag!fi | mato11:09
ubotumato: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi11:09
matook11:09
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jzillagl mato!11:09
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matoHow I can swith my keyboard language_11:10
douglett2should i also post the console msg i get when i try to use startx?11:10
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missmolotovhi, where do i need to look in kubutnu to disable a repository?11:11
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jzillasynaptic11:11
jzillavia k-menu > system11:11
missmolotovi don't seem to have that :/11:12
jzillathen i dunno11:12
douglettposted11:12
jzillayou could get it if you'd like11:12
missmolotovhmm gay11:12
missmolotovcan i get it with adept?11:13
jzillasudo apt-get install synaptic11:13
missmolotovthanks, much appericated :)11:13
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jzillaonce you have that11:14
jzillafire it up and go to Settings > Repositories11:14
missmolotovuhuh, got that isntalled now11:14
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douglettany ideas?11:15
douglett2 /etc/apt/sources.list11:16
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missmolotovany idea where restricted drivers manger is?11:19
pagmissmolotov, it's not included in Kubuntu afaik.11:20
jzillasudo apt-get install restricted-manager11:20
missmolotovah, thank you11:20
jzillahad the same problem like 10 hours ago ;o11:21
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bergeshey i need help! Amarok doesnt open on my system!11:22
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jzilladoes it give you an error?11:22
bergesno it just doesnt open11:22
jzillalaunch it from a term11:22
bergesit shows the amaork icon near the cursor but nothin happens after tht11:22
jzillasee if you get an error11:22
bergesthere is no error message at all11:23
bergesterm as in??11:23
jzillakonsole11:23
bergesoh kk11:23
bergeswhat do i type?? i am pretty new to linux11:23
jzillaamarok11:23
bergesno effect11:24
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jzillado you have the system tray icon by chance?11:25
bergesnope11:25
bergesits not on the system tray11:25
mattsqzbahahahaha11:25
mattsqzMCSe: minesweeper consultant & solitaire expert11:25
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douglett2should i just apt-get install kde?11:27
jzillai didnt claim to like iether11:27
sivajii cant burn mp3 files11:27
mattsqzosx = bsd11:27
sivajiit says unsupported format11:27
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mattsqzwindows = based on crappy os purchased from seattle computers in early 80's11:27
berges@jzilla wat seems to be the problem i cannot understand!11:27
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waltercoolQDos11:28
bergeswindows is bad i agree11:28
bergesbut not so bad11:28
jzillaberges: i dunno buddy, no error from a konsole = me stumped11:28
jzillaim kinda new as well11:28
bergeshmm!11:28
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sivajii cant burn mp3 files  it says unsupported format11:28
jzillasivaji:11:28
jzilladid it list a package you needed?11:28
waltercoolmmm11:28
mattsqzwindows would be less bad if it wasnt crippled by microsoft's legal department11:28
bergesit opens mp3 in other players like audacious and stuff but not amarok11:28
bergesno it didnt say anything of the sought!11:28
sivajijzilla u r asking me ?11:29
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jzillasivaji: yeah11:29
sivajijzilla ya i can see mp3 files which i need to burn ,but when i drag and  drop it says unsupported format11:30
jzillain k3b?11:30
sivajiya11:30
jzillasudo apt-get install libk3b2 libk3b2-mp311:30
jzillatry that11:30
sivajicant i make a audio cd with mp3 files11:30
sivajijzilla ok wait11:31
bergeshey how do i get a account on freenode!11:31
bergessince i cant send pvt messages it tells me!11:31
bergeswhere do i go?11:31
jzillagoogle freenode11:31
pagberges, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration11:31
jzillapag wins!11:32
pagjzilla, :-)11:32
bergesit takes me to the FAQ page11:32
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jzillasivaji: did you get those ?11:33
opengplux??11:34
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pagberges, you should read that FAQ at some point, but the easiest way to register is to type: /msg nickserv register <your-password>11:34
sivajijzilla ya installed those package , now i cant open k3b11:35
jzillaheh11:35
jzillauh11:35
jzillahttp://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html11:35
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douglett2!pastebin11:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:36
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sivajijzilla what for u gave that link11:37
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douglett2anyone have any ideas?11:38
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sivajijzilla ok now what happent to my k3b now11:38
sivajidouglett2 on what11:38
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_4strOdouglett2: idea on ?11:38
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douglett2i ran an adept system update earlier today and now after i've rebooted kdm just keeps restarting instead of going into xwindows11:38
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jzillasivaji: follow that walkthrough, and then grab k3b, libk3b2, and libk3b2-mp3 again11:39
douglett2i get to the login screen and i login and it just goes back to the login screen11:39
_4strOmmm11:39
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douglett2i've already posted the error stuff to pastebin11:40
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_4strOdid you try a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ?11:40
_4strO(with sudo for each)11:40
douglett2yes11:40
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douglett2i did apt-get update, apt-get -u dist-uppgrade11:40
douglett2-p11:40
douglett2and apt-get upgrade11:41
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douglett2i've also done apt-get install kdm, and kde11:41
_4strOlol ok11:41
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douglett2i11:42
douglett2'm about ready to try installing gnome11:42
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_4strOmmm11:42
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_4strOdouglett2: have a look in /var/log/kdm.log11:43
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douglett2looking at it now11:44
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douglett2xkbcomp has lot of errorss11:44
douglett2i guess11:44
_4strOno pb11:44
_4strOi had those errors too11:45
_4strOnot many only two lines11:45
_4strObut it say Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server11:45
douglett2yeah same here11:45
_4strOnothing more ?11:45
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douglett2the last line may be of some use though11:46
_4strOanother usefull test is to try to wonnect with another user account11:46
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_4strOQImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image11:46
Tm_Tdouglett: you don't need to msg me11:46
_4strOthat's the last line for me11:47
douglettFreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.11:47
dvmhow can we get the serial no of use/flash drive?11:47
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douglettokay..11:48
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_4strOdouglett: try to connect with another account11:48
_4strO( sudo adduser userName to create a new one)11:49
douglett2k11:50
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sivaji!beryl11:50
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:50
dvmhow can we get the serial no of use/flash drive?11:50
_4strO!google uuid11:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about google uuid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:51
douglett2no dice11:51
douglett2same thing happened11:51
_4strO:/11:52
epimethis the medibunto repo down?11:53
pagepimeth, looks like it.11:54
epimethcool11:54
epimethcheers11:54
jzillai just got an update list from them ;\11:54
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epimethno fair... I want it too! :-p11:54
douglett2garrr11:54
epimethoh! I know that sound well... what up douglett2?11:55
douglett2Tm_T: no suggestions?11:55
douglett2<douglett2> i ran an adept system update earlier today and now after i've rebooted kdm just keeps restarting instead of going into xwindows11:55
douglett2<douglett2> i get to the login screen and i login and it just goes back to the login screen11:55
douglett2<douglett2> i've already posted the error stuff to pastebin11:55
douglett2<douglett2> i did apt-get update, apt-get -u dist-uppgrade11:55
_4strOdouglett2: adresse of the post ?11:56
douglett2<douglett2> and apt-get upgrade11:56
douglett2<douglett2> i've also done apt-get install kdm, and kde11:56
epimethso... I added another wallpaper to /usr/share/wallpapers and created a .desktop file for it... how do I tell System Settings to reload the data?11:56
douglett2i have no idea11:56
douglett2i posted it11:56
_4strOlol11:56
douglett2how to access the post, i'm not sure11:56
douglett2http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25076/11:56
douglett2could this be it?11:57
douglett2ah ha11:57
epimethprobably... checking now11:57
douglett2yes11:57
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douglett2epimeth: oh yeah, i also tried adding a new user11:57
epimethhrm... have you tried googling "bad length in CompatMap" ?11:59
epimethand have you tried reconfiguring X?11:59
douglett2nope11:59
douglett2i forgot the command :(12:00
pagepimeth, try replacing your medibuntu line in sources.list with that: deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free12:00
epimethpag: what?  they finally decided to *ghasp* purchase a domain?12:00
epimethpag: is it the same for deb-src as well?12:01
pagepimeth, yeah.12:01
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douglett2the tailend of xorg.0.log file is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25079/12:02
mattsqzYES!!12:02
mattsqzkde is starting on my nokia 770! finally!12:02
epimethpag... nope... still get a 404?12:02
sivajii can burn only 20 mp3 files in 700mb disk but in windows i can burn upto 78 mp3 files what's wrong here12:03
epimethpag: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/fesity/dists/free/non-fre/binary-i386/Packages.gz12:03
pagepimeth, eh?12:03
epimethhaha... non-fre12:03
mattsqzwoooot it works12:03
sivajiepimeth say my question any idea12:03
epimethsivaji: <yoda voice>size matters not, hrm?</yoda voice>12:04
sivajiepimeth i cant get u12:05
epimethsivaji: it is quality, not quantity. my friend... I have an mp3 that *is* like 700mb by itself12:05
epimethsivaji: how big are the mp3s?12:05
sivajijust 5minutes or 6minutes12:05
epimethpag: actually... non-free didn't work, either?12:05
epimethpag: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/fesity/dists/free/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz12:06
pagepimeth, wait a sec, I'll pastebin those lines from my sources.list12:06
epimethwhy is it going to /free/non-free ?  something is buggy here....12:07
_4strOsame as epimeth12:07
epimeth_4strO: ironically enough, I wrote fesity instead of feisty... but the error still stands :-)12:07
_4strO:p12:07
pagepimeth, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25080/12:07
epimethsivaji: you understand?12:07
sivajiepimeth ya but not satisfied12:08
_4strOdouglett2: to reconfigure X think it's dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg12:08
_4strOor something like this12:08
epimethooohhhhh.... lolol... fesity free non-free... not /feisty free non-free12:08
epimethhaha12:08
sivajiepimeth u r a  operator right ?12:08
epimethnope, just your average run-o-the-mill lurker12:09
sivajiepimeth then dev12:09
douglett2nope12:09
epimethsivaji: I'm a developer, yes... but not a k/ubuntu dev12:09
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sivaji!CrossOver Linux12:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about crossover linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:10
epimethpag: cheers, btw... worked like a charm ;-)12:10
sivajiepimeth then body dev12:10
epimethnot that there are any upgrades... I kinda miss the daily updates12:10
sivaji!CrossOver12:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:11
pagepimeth, I'm happy to hear that it worked:)12:11
epimethsivaji: wha?12:11
sivajiepimeth crossover12:11
epimethsivaji: what about it?12:11
sivajiepimeth it allows linux to run windows12:11
douglett2i tried sudo dpkg --configure xserver-xorg but that said it was already installed and configured12:11
sivajiepimeth http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxoffice/12:11
epimethsivaji: http://www.codeweavers.com12:11
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douglett2should i be looking at xorg.conf?12:12
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epimethsivaji: not exactly... it allows you to run windows binaries from with linux12:12
_4strOdpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg12:12
epimethsivaji: kind of like ies4linux12:12
epimeth~ies4linux12:12
epimeth!ies4linux12:12
ubotuies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, dont use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!12:12
flakeon my desktop, a binary executable file shows as a gear and when I click, it asks me what program I want to 'launch' it with and brings up a list, but in terminal i can do a ./program to run it.  How can I change it to execute from the gui?12:13
flakeproperties say it is an executable and owner can read/write, group can read, and others can read12:13
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douglett2epimeth: this is the best that i got from google (http://mandrivausers.org/lofiversion/index.php/t33102.html)12:14
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douglett2and that poor fool had to reformat/reinstall12:14
epimethdouglett2, sivaji: sorry, but I gotta leave you for a bit... my whole office seems to be dying of hunger and I'm the only one not standing yet... I'll be back in ~45 mins12:15
sivajiepimeth i got mozillla-firefox latest version still i cant do live webcam chat in some websites y?12:15
sivajiepimeth ok will  be here12:16
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sivajiepimeth i says u dont have latest vesion software u need to install firefox 212:16
sivajiepimeth it says u dont have latest vesion software u need to install firefox 212:16
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douglett2remind me to never update my system ever again12:17
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flakenow it's working, I unchecked the 'executable' and rechecked it, now everything in the folder executes apparently12:24
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smilehi12:26
smilei want mae  we site with a ftp option .. should i use pure_ftprd ou proftd ???????????12:27
smilewant make (not mae we)!12:27
_4strOsmile: none of them is needed12:27
_4strOyou wana make a website ?12:28
smile_4strO: ya .. i need  a ftp serer too12:28
_4strOvsftp12:28
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smile_4strO: better then them two ?12:29
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_4strOi prefer ...12:29
fotoflohmm, i did a sudo apt-get install beryl,  how do i turn it on now?12:30
main2after using 'suspend' (or standby.. however you wanne name it), i cant access VT (terminal via ctrl+alt+f1   -> f12)12:30
smile_4strO: easy to use with php mysql & apache ?12:30
main2anyone experienced this?12:30
_4strOfotoflo: in a terminal : beryl-manager12:30
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smile_4strO: it has a grafical administartion inteface ?12:31
douglett2noooooooooooooooooooooooooo12:31
douglett2gdm is doing the same crap12:31
_4strOsmile: nop12:31
douglett2:(12:31
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_4strOdouglett2: :/12:31
_4strOwhat did you install at last ?12:32
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douglett2nothing!12:32
douglett2i did a system update with adept12:32
sivaji!skype12:32
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto12:32
zipperAnyone managed to find a way to use ALL buttons on a logitech MX510 or MX518 mouse? I cant seem to find any good guides for it on the web12:33
_4strOdouglett2: that's weird12:33
sivajianyone know what is skype12:33
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douglett2there was an error in one of the packages (i can't remember which), i rebooted hours later, and boom--no xwindows for me12:33
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_4strOsivaji: yes12:33
douglett2finger snap, bag snatch12:33
sivaji_4strO tell meple12:33
sivaji_4strO tell me ple12:33
_4strOsivaji: google is your friend ...12:33
douglett2i've no installed gnome and i can't even boot into that12:34
sivaji Added _4strO!* to your ignore list12:34
douglett2i'm wondering if maybe the problem might reside in xorg.conf12:34
_4strOsivaji: ...12:34
_4strOdouglett2: i think your problem is link with X server12:35
mattsqzaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh this is so cool12:35
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mattsqzfull-fledged kde 3.5.6 on my handheld :D12:35
_4strO:p12:35
douglett2_4strO: what package does that fall under?12:36
_4strOdont understand12:36
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_4strOdouglett2: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:39
_4strOthat's the one :)12:39
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douglett2what's 256mgs in kbs?12:45
douglett21024*256?12:45
opengplux...12:45
pawitp26214412:45
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sivaji2009!ext312:45
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org12:46
pawitpor 256000 in harddisk manufacturor's language12:46
anipyhello. i use kubuntu 7.04. i need to extend my screen to a second monitor since my LCD blacks out. so i use System Settings > Montior & Display. but after switching to administrator mode the "Apply" button is still de-activated, so i can't save my changes. any idea what's wrong?12:46
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sivaji2009"http://www.fs-driver.org/ " anyone able to view this page i cant see this page in my browser mozilla-firefox12:48
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jussi01works for me...12:48
opengplux.12:49
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opengplux.12:50
opengpluxsa12:50
douglett2_4strO: no lucj12:51
douglett2luck12:51
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opengpluxdas12:51
douglett2this is so ridiculous12:51
douglett2i don't even know what caused the problem to begin with12:51
zipperno offence, but my guess is... you :)12:51
zipperwhat seems to be the problem?12:51
opengplux.12:51
opengplux/12:51
sivaji2009jussi01 it works in knoqueror but i could see only empty page in mozilla firefox12:52
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sivaji2009!realplayer12:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:53
douglett2zipper: i hate your face12:53
sivaji2009!info  realplayer12:53
ubotuPackage realplayer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:53
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zipperdouglett2: lol12:53
douglett2all i did was an adept system update12:53
zipperdouglett2: don't expect to get any help for me then.12:53
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opengplux.12:54
douglett2there was an error--which i didn't pay much attention to at the time because i figured it was irrelevant12:54
douglett2i went about my business and rebooted hours later12:54
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douglett2now i get to the x login screen and goto login and it just takes me right back to the login screen12:54
douglett2i've been in this channel for about 5 hours now and nobody has any ideas what's causing the problem12:55
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jussi01douglett2: it might be just a full hdd. is this possible?12:56
douglett2i've tried creating a new user, installing kde again, installing kdm, installing gnome/gdm, reconfiguring x--none of which helped12:56
douglett2jussi01: maybe12:57
douglett2how do i check that from the command line?12:57
jussi01and have you checked your swap is working?12:57
douglett2no12:57
douglett2i have a swap setup12:57
douglett2but i don't know how to check to see if it's working12:58
_4strOdouglett2: perhaps you dont have enough free space12:58
jussi01hmmm, what happens when you boot into recovery mode?12:58
_4strOis that possible ?12:58
douglett2it's worth mentioning that i've been running this for several months12:58
douglett2same thing12:58
douglett2u mean failsafe, right?12:58
_4strOdouglett2: df -h ?12:58
_4strOenough space ?12:58
_4strOon /12:58
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sivaji2009douglett2 sudo swapon -s12:59
douglett2ah ha12:59
douglett2i think my hd is full01:00
_4strO^^01:00
douglett2in fact i'm pretty damn sure that's must be it01:00
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_4strO:) it will explain the adept error, and the fact you cant log into kde01:00
douglettdouglett@Cornelius:/etc/X11$ df -h01:00
douglettFilesystem    Type    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on01:00
douglett  /dev/hdb6     ext3     48G   46G     0 100% /01:01
_4strO^^01:01
jussi01:D01:01
_4strOthat's the answer01:01
douglettdouglett@Cornelius:/etc/X11$ sudo swapon -s01:01
douglettFilename                                Type            Size    Used    Priority/dev/hdb7                               partition       1052216 0       -101:01
jussi01douglett: uninstall some stuff :D01:01
_4strOor just delete01:01
zipperAnyone managed to find a way to use ALL buttons on a logitech MX510 or MX518 mouse? I cant seem to find any good guides for it on the web01:01
douglett2the pr0n strikes back01:01
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jussi01_4strO:  but then he has to empty trash... easier to uninstall01:02
douglett2i'm in console01:02
douglett2slick01:02
_4strOjussi01: not if you rm -rf01:02
jussi01_4strO: true...01:03
_4strOdouglett2: type in a terminal : sudo apt-get clean01:03
_4strOand log in01:03
_4strOapt-get clean will remove the packages in the cache01:04
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douglett2ha ha ha!!!01:06
douglett2what are the odds..01:06
jussi01douglett2: ?01:06
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douglett2jussi01, you are my hero01:06
jussi01:D01:07
jussi01douglett2: _4strO: helped also...01:07
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_4strO:)01:07
douglett2yes01:07
douglett2that's the for the leet command line info01:07
douglett2er thanks01:08
douglett2-the01:08
jussi01:D np's :D01:08
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douglett2although i cant figure out how in the world i managed to install gnome  if my hd was full01:08
douglett2that was 500mg+ install01:08
_4strOjussi01: it's when you talked about swap i thought of free space01:08
jussi01_4strO: I had already suggested it...01:09
douglett2they really should do something about disk full errors01:09
jussi01_4strO: [13:56]  <jussi01> douglett2: it might be just a full hdd. is this possible?01:10
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jussi01douglett2: yes... I agree01:10
douglett2something so freaking simple shouldn't be so complicated to figure out01:10
_4strOjussi01: ho i didn't see it01:10
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douglett2hmm01:12
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douglett2now what was the name of the config file that lets you change gdm to kdm?01:12
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stanyone help me with acer 5920  /bin/sh/:can#t access tty: job control turned off01:13
_4strOdouglett2: dpkg-reconfigure kdm01:13
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_4strOor just sudo apt-get remove gdm ;)01:14
stanyone help me with acer 5920  /bin/sh/:can#t access tty: job control turned off01:15
Linux_Alienhi, time to try kubuntu - very impressed, is there a repo that contains tremulous? (can't live without that) :D01:15
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douglett2yes01:17
douglett2bye bye gdm01:17
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Linux_Alienwhat? no tremulous players here? :O i am shocked hehe01:18
xerosisst: is this for the live cd?01:18
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douglett2now i'm getting an error message01:18
stxerosis: yes01:18
stlive01:18
xerosisst: have you tried the alternate cd?01:19
douglett2"there was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. the message returne by the system was: ....01:19
styes the cd is fine md5 is ok01:19
douglett2Could not read network connection list.01:19
stworks on the desktop01:19
xerosisLinux_Alien: tremulous is in multiverse01:19
douglett2/home/douglettt/.DCOPserver_Cornelius__001:19
xerosisst:i meant the alternate install cd01:19
xerosisst: there's two01:20
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stok i can try that01:20
douglett2Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running!01:20
Linux_Alieni uncommented universe, i didn't see multiverse01:20
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Linux_Alienthanks, i'll google that :D01:20
sti thought the hardware is to new for kubuntu knoppix works ... xerosis01:21
douglett2i ran dcopserver from console to no avail01:21
xerosisst: knoppix always works :p01:21
stcould i install knoppix and change the sourcelist to feisty??01:22
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xerosisst: fraid not01:22
st:)01:22
xerosisst: the alternate cd should work though01:22
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sti try the alternate installer01:22
sercikhi!01:23
douglett2any ideas?01:23
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sercikhoe can i mount a folder on another linux pc without samba?01:23
serciksamba is not stable between linux and linux01:23
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hiasHi01:23
xerosissercik: use nfs01:24
serciknfs.... uhm..01:24
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hiasI've installed wifi-radar and all needed packages, but when I want to start wifi radar over internet--> wifi radar, it doesnt response01:25
douglett2anyone? anyone?01:25
hiasjo?01:25
xerosisdouglett2: does it happen every boot?01:25
Linux_Alienxerosis: is this it? deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse01:25
DJServersyo01:25
douglett2dunno, i'm rebooting now01:26
sercikxeros and to mount i can use mount -t nfs?01:26
sercikxerosis:  sorry01:26
DJServersmount is: mount -o loop    for as far i remember01:27
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douglett2xerosis: yes it does01:27
xerosisLinux_Alien: just check it in adept software properties01:28
DJServersehm... how to format one of my harddisks in linux ??01:28
douglett2i've tried running dcopserver from console and then retrying and that didn't help01:28
Linux_Alienthat multiverse addition added a new version of kubuntu, how come i didn't get that without adding that repo?01:28
xerosissercik: install nfs-user-server01:28
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xerosisdouglett2: i remember i had some problems so i'll have a look01:29
sercikxerosis in the pc that shares (now with samba) i need to install nfs server01:29
sercikand then configure shared directory? ot with nfs it shares all hd?01:29
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xerosissercik: yep :)01:29
sercikyep all hd?01:30
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xerosissercik: whatever you need01:30
serciki have a service called netfs on that pc do you think this is what i need?01:31
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DJServers!IRC01:33
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ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines01:33
DJServers!server01:33
ubotuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support01:33
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DJServerso....01:33
xerosisdouglett2: try running 'sudo chown yourusername:yourusername ~/.ICEauthority01:33
DJServerssomeone nows if there is a IRC server in adept ?01:34
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Linux_Alienxerosis: yeah its updaeing now :D01:34
Linux_Aliens/updaeing/updating01:34
erz_hi, i'm lost, my system says my kstartupconfig dont exist since i moved my /home/01:34
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beast|lu5tHello, can someone help me real quick01:36
erz_maybe01:36
erz_=)01:36
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douglett2nevermind01:36
douglett2i figured it out already01:36
beast|lu5tI just upgraded ubuntu to kubuntu, not noticing any difference, besides the fact i have new KDE programs and Gnome programs dont work, How do i get the desktop to look like the ones in the screenshots?01:36
douglett2i moved the .kde directory01:36
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douglett2and tried again and it worked01:37
beast|lu5tStill looks like plain ubuntu.01:37
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douglett2hopefully i can copy back some of the settings01:37
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Linux_Alien19% :/01:37
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Linux_Alienthis seems like time to get some food going01:38
Linux_Alienbbiab01:38
DJServersCan someone help me with installing and setting up my irc-hybrid server?01:38
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beast|lu5tWhat can I do so my desktop looks the same as the screenshots?01:38
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DJServersHello??????????????//01:39
DJServerscan someone help me plz ???????????////01:39
_4strOperhaps you prefer mp3's epimeth ?01:40
_4strOlol01:40
hiasno01:40
douglett2thanks for all your help guys01:40
_4strO!ask | DJServers01:40
ubotuDJServers: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:40
DJServersi askt is 5 times now01:40
_4strOha yes sorry01:40
beast|lu5tdont worry DJ, nobody helps me either :)01:40
_4strOand you asked few days ago too01:40
DJServers... not01:41
erz_i moved my /home/ to /mnt/home and i want to give back the kstartupconfig with chown user.user -R /mnt/home/user ... and it doesnt work... an idea ?01:41
_4strObeast|lu5t: sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop01:41
hiasI've installed wifi-radar and all needed packages, but when I want to start wifi radar over internet--> wifi radar, it doesnt response...there's also no error report01:41
beast|lu5ti did, thats how i upgraded my ubuntu to kubuntu01:41
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ChousukeDJServers: what exactly is your problem?01:41
beast|lu5tits still using ubuntu UI or something, looks exactly the same.01:41
beast|lu5texcept kubunto login screen and boot up screen01:42
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_4strObeast|lu5t: in the login page choose a KDE session01:42
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DJServersi just have installed the pak irc-hybird but how to install and config01:42
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ChousukeDJServers: If you want to set up a server, go read the documentation and try doing it yourself first.01:42
DJServerswhat documentiation01:42
DJServersthere no01:42
appletizerdoes anyone here know which nickname does dennogummi.org belong to? :) i would like to congratulate him on a fine website01:42
ChousukeDJServers: google for the project's website01:42
epimethdouglett2, sivaji: you guys still here?  I'm back from eatsing01:42
Chousukealso, /usr/share/doc/<package_name> often contains documentation01:43
DJServersdamn it sould be helping here normaly it is not now01:43
Chousukewhat?01:43
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DJServersi have search to google alreadyi always do that furst before i ask01:44
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hiasI've installed wifi-radar and all needed packages, but when I want to start wifi radar over internet--> wifi radar, it doesnt response...there's also no error report01:45
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ChousukeDJServers: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircd/h7setup.html if you've got the package installed, look at point 8 here01:46
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maver1ckhello01:47
epimethhallo maver1ck01:47
ChousukeDJServers: the config is in /etc/ircd-hybrid/ according to packages.ubuntu.com01:48
zipperThis is mighty wierd. I have 2 soundcards, HDA-Intel and audigy4. At first, my HDA-Intel was set as default, but after a few reboots (not sure what caused it), audigy4 was set as default. But after installing linux-kernel-image-generic, i'm back to using HDA-intel as default.... how do i switch back to audigy?01:48
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ChousukeDJServers: also, /usr/share/doc/ircd-hybrid/ contains examples and README-files01:49
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nullkuhlguys plz help, am tryin to compile latest version of splashy , and i get this error at the end after i type make in its folder(compiling).. : collect2: ld returned 1 exit status. make[1] : *** [splashy]  Error 1. then leaving directory and so on plzz helppp01:53
grultry sudo01:53
grul:P01:53
Chousukenah01:53
Chousukesudo doesn't help with that01:53
nullkuhli did01:53
nullkuhlChousuke: wat do u think then ?01:54
nullkuhli googled but came up with nothing01:54
nullkuhlplzz help01:54
ChousukeIt's not possible to know by just that error01:54
nullkuhlwat shall ido then01:54
Chousuke!pastebin01:54
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:54
nullkuhlk01:54
nullkuhl1 sec01:54
Chousukeput the rest of the text there.01:54
ChousukeI'll get coffee so brb01:55
nullkuhlwat syntax shyd be ?01:55
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nullkuhlChousuke: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25089/01:57
Chousukehm, back01:58
nullkuhlhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25089/01:58
nullkuhli included the ./configure reply too01:58
Chousukehmm :/01:59
Chousukeit seems the /usr/bin/ld: attempted static link of dynamic object `/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so' is the problem01:59
ChousukeI wonder what to do about it.02:00
erz_is there a solution to debug kstartupconfig in deleting user ?02:00
ChousukeI don't suppose you can link splashy dynamically either.02:00
nullkuhlsoo ?02:02
nullkuhlget the deb of the odler version02:02
nullkuhlolder*02:02
Chousukewhy do you want splashy anyway?02:02
nullkuhllol02:02
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Chousukekubuntu has usplash already, doesn't it?02:02
Chousukeyou can set up your own splash screen02:02
erz_looking for some help to restore my kstartupconfig =)02:03
Chousukewhat's wrong with it?02:04
maver1ckhey, I've got a problem with Xgl on feisty02:04
erz_i couldn't start =)02:04
maver1ckin logout dialog I don't have shutdown / reboot key02:05
erz_since i copy my /home/ to /mnt/home ( where is mounted hda6 )... kde wont open my session02:05
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maver1ckI already change my script to copy xauth data (advice found in google) but it doesn't work for me02:06
maver1ckany tip ?02:06
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nullkuhlguys plz help am trying to compile splashy but it failes http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25089/ plzzz helppppppppppp02:06
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maver1ckhere is my startxgl script http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25090/02:08
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maver1ckplease help02:12
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icecruncherman it's slow here today02:23
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soulrider_hello02:28
soulrider_what you guys need ?02:28
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icecrunchersoulrider_: nothin happenin today02:32
icecruncher(yet)02:32
soulrider_yeah02:32
soulrider_its very quiet in here02:32
icecruncherdown about ~80 ppls I think02:33
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sebbarhi, is there a way to watch smil files on kubuntu?02:41
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icecrunchersebbar: i think Kmplayer02:43
icecruncherhttp://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=9&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kde-apps.org%2Fcontent%2Fshow.php%3Fcontent%3D10004&ei=PUNtRuvmIoe8sAKuz8ClBA&usg=AFQjCNGCcx8ZT9Q6xtmmRd6qhdTWpR7T3Q&sig2=svMZjTV3RRkmQ1Qn3x7H-Q02:43
darkrift_anyoen here able to help me get a certain ocr program installed?02:43
darkrift_i tried and ran into roadblocks02:43
icecrunchersebbar: sorry lol http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=1000402:43
BluesKajsebbar , you need the real player plugin for your browser02:44
sebbarok, mplayer gives me: Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll whereas with real player somehow I hear the audio but I don't see any video02:45
sivajiis it possible to open power point document in kubuntu02:45
icecrunchersivaji: yes, use openoffice02:45
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BluesKajdarkrift_, what program?02:47
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sivajiicecruncher  i cant open office terminates abnormally02:47
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darkrift_ocropus02:47
darkrift_the page i found has what i think are redhat instructions02:47
darkrift_$ svn checkout http://ocropus.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ ocropus02:48
darkrift_# urpmi jam aspell-devel libtiff-devel libpng-devel libjpeg-devel02:48
BluesKajis it a game?02:48
darkrift_$ ./configure; jam02:48
darkrift_no02:48
darkrift_optical character recognition02:48
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darkrift_those are the instrucitons to install it02:48
darkrift_i checked it out02:48
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darkrift_but it is missing some stuff02:48
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darkrift_not sure what the steps to install it would be02:49
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icecrunchersivaji: just a sec02:49
sivajiicecruncher ok02:49
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icecrunchersebbar: you could try http://www.openmash.org/mhonarc/openmash-users/msg00101.html02:50
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icecrunchersivaji: co you know why oo crashes?02:52
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sivajiicecruncher no idea02:53
darkrift_hrmmmmm02:54
icecrunchersivaji: bb in 10 min, sorry02:54
sivajiicecruncher ok02:54
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BluesKajdarkrift_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/graphics/quiteinsane02:56
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_pedroHi guys02:58
_pedroI am having several problems with nvidia driver installation02:58
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_pedroI recently installed nvidia driver from the official web02:58
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_pedroand after that I started X and the configuration of my keyboard is not the one of my language- spanish02:59
_pedrowhat can I do?03:00
sivajiple someone help me i cant open power point document in open office03:01
BluesKajpedro , in the run command type 'kdesu kcontrol' , the enter your password (gives admin permissions) then choose, regional & accessibility, keyboard03:02
_pedroOk, done it03:05
_pedrobut there is no change aparently03:05
_pedrodo I have to reboot_03:05
_pedro?03:05
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sivajiBluesKaj :03:05
darkrift_thx, but that is a gui to a scanner engine that supports ocr03:05
SubOneHow do I uninstall a Window Decoration?03:05
darkrift_and gocr has low % accuracy03:05
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icecrunchersivaji: work yet?03:06
sivajiicecruncher dude i cant open that03:06
BluesKajsivaji, sorry I have never used power point and seldom use OpenOffice :(03:06
icecrunchersivaji: can you open openoffice by itself?03:06
sivajiBluesKaj ok03:06
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sivajiicecruncher how03:07
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icecruncherin the menu03:07
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BluesKajwell, darkrift_ my best advice is to search google-linux...it's a dedicated search engine for linux users ... that's all I can help you with03:08
sivajiicecruncher i have only openoffice.org (wordprocessor)  is that enough to open that03:08
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icecrunchersivaji: hit alt + F2 and type in ooffice -impress03:08
sivajiicecruncher wait03:09
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icecrunchersivaji: yes?03:11
sivajino03:11
icecruncherso it cannot open?03:11
sivajiwait i will paste message which i got when i open with terminal03:12
sivaji!pastebin03:12
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:12
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epimethsivaji: still need some help?03:14
icecruncherepimeth: yeah he does03:14
icecruncherepimeth: you know how to open ms powerpoint presentations in kubunt03:15
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sivajiicecruncher : openoffice error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25092/03:15
sivajiepimeth yes03:15
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chi0_hey all i have a question03:16
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sivajiepimeth i cant open power point document (.pps file) when i try to open it with openoffice it get terminated abnormally and when start openoffice second it ask me to click recover button03:17
icecrunchersivaji: what ver are you running?03:17
sivajikubuntu 7.0403:17
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sivajiepimeth icecruncher any idea03:19
zapperepa03:19
chi0_does any one know of a good kde based FTP client?03:19
icecrunchersivaji: no sorry, you could try reinstall openoffice :)03:19
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BluesKaj!ask | chi0_,03:20
ubotuchi0_,: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:20
zapperany one knoes how to download and install cedega????03:20
BluesKajoops03:20
sivajichi0_ dx403:20
chi0_zapper theres a .deb for it ;)03:20
zapperwere03:21
sivajichi0_ "sudo apt-get install d4x"03:21
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sivajichi0_ ktorrent03:21
sivajichi0_ prozilla03:21
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zapperthanks03:22
chi0_ktorrent does ftp?03:22
sivajiyes03:22
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chi0_ok i will have to check that out ;)03:22
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sivajiepimeth icecruncher ya i can i install some plugins to it now i can thank u03:23
zapperand now03:23
chi0_zapper: check the downloads on the site it should be at the bottom :)03:24
BluesKajchi0_,  if you like GUIs try KBear03:24
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darkrift_anyone know of someone who would be willing to install this program for me to see what im doing wrong/walk me thru it?03:24
icecrunchersivaji: np, not tat we where much help03:24
icecruncherlol03:24
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chi0_BluesKaj: Is that in the repos can't find it03:24
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sivajichi0_  u should download .torrent  file from some server like isohunt.com03:25
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sivajichi0_ then u can use ktorrent03:25
BluesKajchi0_, http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=17726&package_id=13420&release_id=19936503:25
chi0_BluesKaj: ty03:26
sivajiepimeth icecruncher same way can i open openoffice document in msoffice03:26
icecrunchersivaji: I don't think so03:26
zapperxlibs??????????03:26
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sivajiicecruncher is there any way to start user script at boot time03:29
icecrunchersivaji: yes, make it executable and place it in .kde/Autostart/03:30
sivajiicecruncher how to make it executable03:30
icecrunchersivaji: chmod +x filename03:30
sivajiicecruncher ok03:30
sivajiwhere this .kde is located03:31
sivajiicecruncher ya i got it03:32
icecrunchercool03:32
chi0_here -- > /home/yourusername/.kde/autostart/file.*03:32
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icecruncherchi0_: it's Autostart ,  capital a03:32
icecruncherlol03:32
chi0_sorry lol my bad. hee hee03:33
icecrunchernp03:33
icecruncherlol03:33
sivajiicecruncher but that script needs su privillage03:33
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sivajiicecruncher are u there03:34
icecruncheryes,03:34
sivaji icecruncher but that script needs su privillage03:34
icecruncheryes, one sec, typing is not that fast03:35
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icecrunchermake a script with kdesu script, place it in autostart, and the script is referencing to the one that you wanna execute03:35
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chi0_it will ask for your password after you login. it will be a "kdesu" pop up ;)03:36
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sivajiicecruncher shall i place my script at /etc/init.d/ because script in this dir get executed in boot time03:37
sivajiwith su privillage03:37
icecrunchersivaji: true, what does it do?03:37
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sivajiya03:38
icecruncherpurpose of scipt?03:38
sivajiwhen u boot u r system u will see information like "loading kernel module ,etc' all these are placed in this dir03:39
icecruncherahh03:40
sivajiyesterday i removed one prog from this dir and and didnt see that at boot time03:40
sivajimy script will mount windows partition in linux dir03:40
icecruncherahh03:40
icecruncherk03:40
zipperThis is mighty wierd. I have 2 soundcards, HDA-Intel and audigy4. At first, my HDA-Intel was set as default, but after a few reboots (not sure what caused it), audigy4 was set as default. But after installing linux-kernel-image-generic, i'm back to using HDA-intel as default.... how do i switch back to audigy?03:41
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NiceGuyUKhi, can someone remind me of the name of that app that gives a graph of where all the diskspace has gone?03:44
BluesKajzipper, most default settings for 2 soundcards have to be made in the BIOS , one must be disabled in the preipherals (that's usually where you'll find them)03:46
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NiceGuyUK!diskspace03:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about diskspace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:47
NiceGuyUK!df03:47
ubotuGraphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T03:47
NiceGuyUKah, there it is :)03:47
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BluesKajNiceGuyUK, in the run command type 'kdesu kcontrol' , the enter your password (gives admin permissions) then choose' disk7filesystems03:48
NiceGuyUKthx03:49
BluesKajerr disk&filesystems03:49
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NiceGuyUKFilelight is more what I was looking for though03:51
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zipperBluesKaj: i've heard that solution before, but i refuse to do it that way. It _MUST_ be possible from within the OS.03:54
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BluesKajyes zipper , it prolly is ,but i don't know how , ....sorry :(03:56
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DJServersyo03:57
DJServers!ircd03:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ircd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:57
jacquesgusty is very good03:58
jacquesI love it03:58
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BluesKajzipper,you could check this out ...it's for debian but it might work with feisty too since kubuntu is debiam based : http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/10/steps-to-get-audio-to-work-in-debian.html04:02
BluesKajgotta go cut the lawn ...bbl04:03
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zipperBluesKaj: thanks, but i've already found a way to do it.... asoundconf04:04
zippereasy and effective04:04
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DJServerssome one nows how to start irc-hybrid ?04:04
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BluesKajyup,ok good to know ...I had to get my SD working by making an asoundrc file as well04:06
BluesKajbbl04:06
zipperdidnt even have to make a file, just 'asound set-default-card xxxx'04:06
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hiasHi, how can I create a Text file via terminal?04:07
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nullkuhlguys plz helpi have just installed splashy and when i try to exec this in terminal : splashy test or splashy boot i get this error  Splashy ERROR: Couldn't splashy_start_splashy(). Error -2  HELPPP04:08
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hiasHi, how can I create a Text file via terminal?04:08
zipperhias: well, you can create any file using 'touch'. i.e 'touch file.txt'04:08
zipperhias: and stop repeating yourself, we heard you the first time04:09
hiasok, sry04:09
zipperhias: 'touch' only creates the file though, you need something like vim/emacs/nano/whatever to edit it04:09
DJServersHi all, i have just installed the irc-hybrid server by adept manager but how to start it now ? ....04:09
nullkuhlguys plz helpi have just installed splashy and when i try to exec this in terminal : splashy test or splashy boot i get this error  Splashy ERROR: Couldn't splashy_start_splashy(). Error -2  HELPPP04:10
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DJServersHi all, i have just installed the irc-hybrid server by adept manager but how to start it now ? ....04:10
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hiasperhpas with the terminal04:11
hiasjust type in the package name04:11
zipperDJServers: stop repeating, we heard you the first time. If anyone is online who can, and feel like helping, i'm sure they'll reply04:11
hiasHow can I login as root?04:11
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jzilladont advise doing that04:12
jzillamost root stuff can be done with sudo04:12
DJServersi am asking sins this morning never get an answer04:12
hiasBut I must edit a file04:12
zipperhias: you shouldn't need to. In (k)ubuntu, we use "sudo" instead04:12
hiasbut always permision denied...04:12
jzillasudo kate file.txt04:12
jzillawould probably be the way to go04:13
hiasah cool04:13
hiasok04:13
zipperDJServers: well, you get the support you pay for. Cant really expect help, although you get it most of the time anyway04:13
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hiasand what is the command for deleting a file?04:13
zipperhias: *NEVER DO THIS* it is possible to get a root terminal running, doing 'sudo sh' or 'sudo bash'04:13
zipperhias: 'rm file'04:13
hiasthanks04:13
zipperhias: and if you want to delete a directory.... 'rm -rf dir/'04:14
hiasis there a list of all commands in the internet?04:14
zipperhias: i'm sorry, i'm only aware of a danish list for debian on www.debianguiden.dk04:14
zipperALL commands would be a lot of pages though04:14
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DJServers!irc04:15
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines04:15
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ReMiiRuruWill 'acpi=off' increase my computers energy usage? I hope it's not totally dumb question...04:16
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zipperReMiiRuru: probably, depends on whether your hardware supports stepping. That said, it will probably also disable hibernate functions and so on.04:17
lam64hi04:18
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ReMiiRuruWell, I was wondering because this month energy bill was pretty high, and the only change last month was installing linux(with acpi=off)04:18
ReMiiRuruWell, but right now PC actually booted with acpi! That was unheard off month ago.04:18
ReMiiRuruI hope it'll be stable...04:19
zippercouldn't it be something else than your pc that is drawing power?04:19
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ReMiiRuruIt could be. But I don't know what are people who I'm sharing apartment with doing in their rooms04:21
ReMiiRuruActually I'll feel better with acpi being on, as long as it's stable :)04:21
zipperofcourse. Acpi is a good thing.04:22
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zippereven if power consumption remains the same04:22
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ReMiiRuruYeah. I don't really use much electronics except computer, so I did all I could to prevent next bill from being that high^^04:24
zipperyou guys have an old fridge? old oven? Those can really suck up some power04:25
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ReMiiRuruOuch, random freeze.04:28
zipperReMiiRuru:04:29
zipperyou guys have an old fridge? old oven? Those can really suck up some power04:29
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dfeserhi all04:31
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dfeser is there a way to use kerberos for the printer auth?04:31
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mitch_I wonder if someone could help me with a wireless problem...my wireless stopped working after i upgraded to 2.6.20-1604:37
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bbeck_I was wondering if anyone knew how to get changes to the toolbar in Kate to stay set.  I would like to have the icon text appear under the icons, so I set it that way, but when I restart Kate, the text is missing.04:39
dfesermitch is whats the content of your /lib/firmware dir?04:39
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DJServerssomeone nows how to start irc-hybrid ????04:40
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mitch_dfeser: 2.6.20-15-generic and 2.6.20-16-generic04:41
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ReMiiRuruYeah, another random freeze. acpi=off is not for me :)04:42
dfesermitch ok, firmware folder is there...which wlan card do you own?04:42
ReMiiRuru*is for m04:42
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mitch_broadcom 4318...my wireless still works if i sign in with the 20-15 kernel04:43
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faidillingerwhich grafical ftp client ??? kbear or kasablanca ???04:44
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mitch_it kinda seems like dhcp doesn;t work with 20-16 and my wireless....04:46
bbeck_faidillinger: I use konqueror for ftp.  It seems to work well.04:46
faidillingerok04:47
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mitch_on dhclient i get "No DHCPOFFERS received"04:49
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mikkaelhow many entries does a swap need ? here is my fstab, is one of those swap entries obsolete ? http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/122904:50
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MinatakuHm04:53
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BluesKajkasablanca is in the repos , i don't see kbear in any of mine, ...It's available as a bz2 file and requires some dependencies that are installed but it's configure/make files don't see for some reason04:55
BluesKajkbear may not work with Qt4 from what I can see so it's prolly not feisty compliant04:56
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faidillingerfine, i ll go for kasablanca04:58
BluesKajkasablanca looks good , faidillinger04:58
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mitch_is there a bug with wireless and 2.6.20-16 upgrade?05:00
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MinatakuHm... so the Amiga used MFM after all05:04
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mitch_is there anywhere else to go and try and get help with wireless problems?05:05
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BluesKaj!wireless | mitch_05:06
ubotumitch_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:06
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MinatakuHm... hm... hm...05:07
MinatakuSupposedly it's possible to R/W Amiga floppies with a standard PC FDC05:07
Linux_Alienis there a repo with tremulous in? somone here said it was in the universe repo but i just upgraded to feisty 7.04 and have all the repo's unhashed but still no tremulous05:08
MinatakuEh... I think I'll just hack together a CD-ROM drive instead05:09
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Linux_Aliensource it is then :)05:10
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dazjorzbah, what's this05:11
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dazjorzI think *something's* wrong in my xorg.conf05:11
dazjorzbut the screen just doesn't look right05:11
dazjorzI see thin black lines05:11
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dazjorzmy monitor should support 1024*786 @ 60 Hz just fine05:11
dazjorzmaybe it's because of the 'nvidia' driver, or because the horizontal/vertical sync isn't correct05:12
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MinatakuThin black lines like scanlines? O.o05:13
dazjorzit does find my graphics card correctly, though05:13
dazjorzYeah05:13
dazjorzI guess so05:13
dazjorzthey move all the time, too05:13
MinatakuHrm05:14
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MinatakuIf possible, try a different card/monitor05:14
MinatakuOr cable05:14
dazjorzwell, I am able to do stuff, so that's no problem05:14
dazjorzI don't have any different card or monitor05:14
dazjorz:/05:14
dazjorzEh05:14
dazjorzWhen I use 'nv', it works just fine05:14
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dazjorzbut with 'nvidia', it doesn't05:14
dazjorzmaybe I just need to update the driver, or so05:15
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MinatakuAh05:16
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MinatakuWell, I was thinking maybe bad hardware but that's ruled out then05:16
dazjorzThe hardware was fine :)05:16
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dazjorzThe login window showed fine, too05:16
dazjorzand it was after I reconfigured xserver-xorg05:17
MinatakuWeird05:17
dazjorzQuite, yeah05:17
Daisuke_Ido1024*786?\05:18
dazjorzOh, it might've been 768, I never remember the second number ;)05:18
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BluesKajdazjorz, how is it with just the vesa driver , or have you checked ?05:18
Daisuke_Idok, that could cause problems05:18
dazjorzBluesKaj: I haven't, but it works fine with the 'nv' driver, so I'm updating 'nvidia' now05:19
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MinatakuEh... I'm sure I'll eventually figure something out05:20
richarhola soy richar05:20
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zipperdazjorz: i know this isnt the "linux-way", but i've had some wierd graphical glitches when installing nvidia drivers. A reboot was the only thing that could fix it - dunno if you've tried that already.05:21
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dazjorzzipper: Nah, I'm going to update now, I'll keep it in mind :)05:21
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zipperfor me though, it was mostly a square in the center of the screen, which were tiled/messed up. Rest of the screen looked fine.05:21
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MinatakuMy A/UX Mac is up and running right now... was doing some experiments with it05:23
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MinatakuI wonder if it can read/write 880k Amiga floppies... I'd have to do some programming, probably, there's no 880 device by default, I'd have to mess around with ioctls and such05:24
MinatakuPlus it'd be weird to write my first truly useful program on such an old and obscure OS XD05:25
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dazjorzeh05:27
dazjorzthe scanlines are still there with the newest driver05:28
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jriachihello05:28
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jriachiin kde (current kubuntu version), is it possible to have rectangular buttons in the panel??  (e.g.. I'd like to have a 32x128 button for my start menu)05:29
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dazjorzYay05:38
dazjorzIt works!05:38
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dazjorzI had to put '_60' after the resolutions in xorg.conf05:38
tanakahi all! :)05:38
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BluesKajcool dazjorz, the updated driver works ...good to know05:39
dazjorzBluesKaj: No, it was not because of the updated driver05:39
dazjorzit was because I added '_60' to the resolutions in xorg.conf for the Screen05:39
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dazjorzso, 1024*768_60 instead of 1024*76805:39
BluesKajrefresh rate ?05:39
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BluesKajwhat size monitor dazjorz ?05:40
BluesKajhi tanaka05:40
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ubuntuhi payos05:41
BluesKajubuntu, pls change yer nick, sometimes we end up with 5-6 ubuntus of various kinds and it all can become very confusing05:42
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dazjorzBluesKaj: not sure05:43
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BluesKajdazjorz,@work ?05:43
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jriachihello05:44
semistud2354i dont know if anyone else has this problem...but im runing kubuntu feisty...and when i set the screensaver to come on it just freezes my screen...when i movie my mouse the screen is back to normal...i dont see any screen saver...just a picture of my screen when the screen saver was supposta start05:44
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jriachiin kde, can i make buttons in the panel to be rectangular? (e.g, i'd like my "system menu/important places" button to be 32x128)05:45
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ubuntuhi05:45
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semistud2354does anyone have any ideas05:47
semistud2354suggestions....05:47
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ubuntuhi05:48
zhangkaiMathematica,How use at kubuntu?05:48
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ardchoillesemistud2354: That happens to me randomly too, but most of the time the screensaver works fine.05:49
semistud2354mine doest work at all05:49
semistud2354anytime05:49
semistud2354just....takes a picture of my screen...05:49
semistud2354thats my screensaver05:49
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Daisuke_Idoare you using the linux version of mathematica?05:50
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semistud2354me05:51
semistud2354im using kubuntu feisty05:51
Daisuke_Idono no, zhangkai05:51
semistud2354o05:52
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zhangkaiDaisuke_Ido:how to use it ?05:54
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tanakais there a way to install the nvidias' latest and greatest 100.14.09 driver in kubunntu?05:55
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nullkuhlguys does any one here have feisty and is having the default boot splash screen of ubuntu.. if so pls pastbin me the /boot/grub/menu.lst          plzzzzzzzzzzzz05:56
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Daisuke_Idowhat does one have to do with the other?05:57
Daisuke_Idoand it's spelled "PLEASE"05:57
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nullkuhlDaisuke_Ido: are u on fiesty05:58
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Daisuke_Idoyeah05:58
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root__how do i set my gutsy gibbon nvidia display drivers to 1440x900 in 16/10 mode ?05:58
Daisuke_Idoadd "splash" to your kernel line05:58
Daisuke_Idoroot__: go to #ubuntu+1 for gutsy questions05:58
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icecruncherwhat is a good small sound recorder?05:59
Daisuke_Idokrec?06:00
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Daisuke_Idoor "Sound Recorder"06:00
nullkuhlguys does any one here have feisty and is having the default boot splash screen of ubuntu.. if so pls pastbin me the /boot/grub/menu.lst          plzzzzzzzzzzzz06:00
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HayzeusOk06:00
El_Donalguien puede decirme en q protocolo debo usar para conectar mi cuenta Gmail en Gaim=?06:00
Hayzeusi just installed Kubuntu06:01
nullkuhlDaisuke_Ido: pls pastebin me the file ^^06:01
Daisuke_Idonullkuhl: repeating isn't necessary06:01
Hayzeusand it will not let me login with my username and password06:01
nullkuhlok06:01
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Daisuke_Idoand no, i will not, because you'll just screw your own things up06:01
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El_Donalguien puede decirme en q protocolo debo usar para conectar mi cuenta Gmail en Gaim=?06:01
nullkuhlwell no, i just wnna set some values to the default one06:01
Hayzeuscan someone help me with my kubuntu login trouble?06:01
Daisuke_Idoif your spash isn't showing, make sure "splash" is on the line with the kernel options06:01
nullkuhli aint that stupid to cpy n paste it06:01
El_Donalguien puede decirme en q protocolo debo usar para conectar mi cuenta Gmail en Gaim=?06:01
nullkuhlit depends on lotsa stuff i knowwww06:01
icecruncher!sp | El_Don06:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:01
nullkuhljust plz paste bin ittt06:01
cr4sh!ntfs-3g06:01
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions06:01
Daisuke_Idowhen you learn to spell, i'll pastebin it.06:02
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cr4sh!ntfs-config06:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:02
El_Donalguien puede decirme en q protocolo debo usar para conectar mi cuenta Gmail en Gaim=?06:02
Hayzeusanyone?06:02
icecruncher!spanish | El_Don06:02
ubotuEl_Don: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:02
HayzeusHelp on kubuntu logins- query me please06:02
nullkuhlDaisuke_Ido: ??06:02
nullkuhlplease paste bin it ? happy now ?06:03
Daisuke_Ido...no06:03
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Daisuke_Idoi told you what you needed06:03
nullkuhllol wats up ??06:03
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nullkuhlgrrrrr06:04
nullkuhlr u here to support ppl or annoy theM ?06:04
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icecrunchernullkuhl please be patient or quiet06:04
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Daisuke_Idoi'm here to support people that DON'T have the windows "give it to me NOW" mentality.06:05
Daisuke_Idoi had it pastebinned, now you can forget it.06:05
Daisuke_Idojfgi06:05
ni^hey i have weird issue, after upgrade edgy -> feisty my wifi [ my computer {kubuntu} <<<< router [wifi]  >>>> lan {win xp} ]  is very slow [~500-550 KB/s]  before upgrade i had 1.5-2 MB/s anyone who can help me? Router is DI-624, i tried WEP/WPA/RAW same speed...06:06
icecruncherDaisuke_Ido: thnks btw for the tip on krec06:06
Daisuke_Idoicecruncher: you're welcome06:06
missmolotovif you've killed xorg.conf so badly, you can't log into a desktop, can you force it to drop back to a shell?06:06
Hayzeuswhen installing kubuntu i put in my username and password that i wanted (and it did the type check and whatnot so it matched) and then i tried to login with it now and it will not work at all for me06:06
Daisuke_Idocase sensitivity?06:06
Hayzeusnope06:07
Daisuke_Idohmm06:07
Hayzeusit was all lower case06:07
Hayzeusand my pass is all #s06:07
Hayzeusand numlock is on06:07
Hayzeuslol06:07
Daisuke_Idothen i can definitely see how there's a problem06:07
Hayzeusyes06:07
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Hayzeusi cannot do anything with it at the moment06:07
nullkuhlDaisuke_Ido: Why are u refusin to help ?06:07
Hayzeusis there a way i can do something in the console to reset my pass?06:08
SlimeyPetesudo passwd <username>06:08
SlimeyPetebut to do that, you'd have to log in to the console06:08
Hayzeusyea i just thought of that06:08
Hayzeusdamn06:08
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Hayzeusi dont know what to do now06:09
Daisuke_IdoHayzeus: did you *just* install?06:09
Hayzeusyes06:09
Hayzeusi just installed06:09
Daisuke_Idobecause if you're not going to lose anything...06:09
Hayzeusi havent even used it yet06:09
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Hayzeuscould i possibly boot into the livecd06:10
Hayzeusopen terminal06:10
Hayzeusand do any changes that way06:10
Hayzeusbut since its a livecd it wont let me make changes to my HD right?06:10
Daisuke_IdoSlimeyPete: couldn't he work under a chroot environment and set things right?06:10
ni^Hayzeus: boot in single06:10
Daisuke_IdoHayzeus: if it's mounted, you should be able to write to it (if it isn't ntfs)06:11
Hayzeusok it is mounted06:11
Daisuke_Idocrap, can't chroot06:11
Hayzeusand its a ext3 partition06:11
ni^Hayzeus: or mount your hdd to /tmp using livecd and chroot /tmp /bin/bash / change pass06:11
Daisuke_Idoni^ has the best idea06:11
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ni^Hayzeus: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/custom-guide/s1-rescuemode-booting-single.html06:12
aleksanteriWhen I try apt-get install <whatever_package> it says that "these packages have broken dependancies" since it's trying to install them. How can I stop this?06:12
ni^anyone here who had weird problems with wifi at feisty?06:12
sudeepi have  ubuntu 7.04 installed on my system. I also have Kubuntu 7.04 CD. How can i add kubuntu packages on to my system...06:13
ni^aleksanteri: check which are broken and fix them using --force-all06:13
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Daisuke_Idosudeep: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:13
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ni^aleksanteri: i mean download .deb and force dpkg -i :)06:14
aleksanterini^: apt complains that "--force-all" is an unknown command line option06:14
ni^dpkg --force-all -i package.deb06:14
ni^first download that .deb06:14
aleksanteriaah :P06:14
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aleksanteriok i'll try taht06:14
aleksanterithat *06:14
dromercan someone help me setup nvidia twinview? since my re-install (ubuntu feisty) my xorg.conf seems to have changed a LOT:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25103/06:14
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ninHerhi all06:18
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ni^dromer: i'm just guessing but... Option   "DynamicTwinView""False" maybe here06:19
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dromerni^: no, then X doesn't load06:23
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steffensomeone know what the default password/username on phpmyadmin??06:24
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HayzeusThanks06:25
Hayzeusthat worked06:25
zippersteffen: i bet the manual/readme does06:25
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Hayzeusni^: many thanks to you06:26
steffenzipper: where to find it?06:26
Hayzeusi booted in single user and did the sudo passwd and changed it06:26
Hayzeusthanks06:26
steffenwhere can i find it? **06:26
zippersteffen: dunno... my guess would be their website06:27
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steffeni have installed it in the Adept...06:27
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dromerni^: ok, got it working now, at least, the nvidia-settings has the option to enable twinview .. the 2nd screen doesn't seem very responsive yet though ..06:28
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zippersteffen: then you can probably do 'man phpmyadmin'06:29
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crowbarsteffen: it might be root with no password06:30
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icecruncherand could anyone tell me of kde's sound editor?06:30
crowbarsteffen: phpmyadmin is just a frontend for the mysql database, so you have to use your mysql account nad password.  the default for that is root and no password06:30
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icecruncheri mean a audio editor, other than audacity,which crashed at a 34 mb file06:32
steffencrowbar: i have tryed root with no password, but it didn't work :-(06:35
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crowbarsteffen: Do you have mysql installed?06:36
crowbarsteffen: mysql-server?06:36
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DJServerssomeone nows how to start irc-hybrid ????06:37
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steffencrowbar: yes, mysql-server-5.0 and mysql-server06:37
crowbarsteffen: on the command line what happens if you type mysql -u root  ?06:38
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DJServershi all, is here anyone ho nows how to start irc-hybrid?06:41
steffencrowbar: "welcome to mysql...."06:41
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crowbarsteffen: Then the root password is still set to nothing.  What is the error you're running into?  if you leave the password field blank you should be able to log right in06:41
^RiaN^hiii all06:42
dr_willisMinataku,  found the calculators 5 total. i think. but NOW i gotta run to the hoispital.06:42
dr_willisbyeee.06:42
^RiaN^please help me06:42
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^RiaN^how to mount windows partition from kubuntu06:42
steffencrowbar: yes, i can login on command line, but not on phpmyadmin... the error i get on phpmyadmin: Access denied for user ...06:43
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crowbarsteffen: what does the entire message say?06:44
jhutchins_ltsteffen: is mysql listening on localhost?  Have you set the admin user in config.include.php?06:44
jhutchins_ltsteffen: Obviously you must set a password before this goes "live", or anybody can log in.06:45
zipperSomething feels wrong about my pc...06:45
zipperi cant seem to find any more glitches or things to fix =(06:46
manchickenAnybody know why my keypad would now mysteriously start controlling my mouse cursor?06:46
zipperperhaps i should consider upgrading to +1? You know, to get broken dependencies and all the fun stuff.06:46
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zippermanchicken: say what?06:47
zippermanchicken: your keypad actually moves the curser?06:47
manchickenYup.06:47
jhutchins_ltmanchicken: The numlock key is off.06:47
zippernumlock or not, it shouldnt do that06:47
manchickenAnd the KDE option that enables that is not checked.06:47
steffenjhutchins_lt: the user is root, pass ""06:47
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manchickenjhutchins_lt: This happens both with numlock on and off.06:47
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jhutchins_ltmanchicken: It's somehow enabled the 'accessibility' feature that does that.06:48
Ze_Misnt there a feisty release for ppc?06:48
zippermanchicken: is your keypad special in any way? Like, seperated from the rest of the keyboard, having its own cord or something?06:48
manchickenzipper: No.06:48
zipperZe_M: i've heard about people installing feisty on the PS3, so i would guess there is06:48
Ze_Misnt there a feisty release for ppc?06:48
zipperand dont repeat yourself, we heard you the first time06:48
manchickenjhutchins_lt: could you be more specific?06:48
steffencrowbar: oh, i see the problem: Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: YES) ... but i typed in root as user... :-S06:48
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Ze_Mzipper sp what release should idownload?06:49
Ze_Mzipper so what release should i download?06:49
jhutchins_ltsteffen: Read the docs for phpMyAdmin, create the proper config.include.php file.06:49
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zipperZe_M: beats me, i dont have a PPC architecture =(06:49
jhutchins_ltZe_M: 2007.106:49
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zuziailukaszekhelo06:51
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CAP5389is there a ppc release?06:59
CAP5389is there feisty release for ppc?06:59
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jhutchins_lt!ppc | CAP538907:03
ubotuCAP5389: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ07:03
ni^ok i found solution... seems disabling avahi-daemon help networking speed problems in my case 500 k/s -> 3.5-4.5 M/s07:03
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tanakahi again07:03
tanakathe pc booted up fine with the new kernel,so how can i remove the old one07:04
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tanakaPriceChild: how can i remove the old kernel07:07
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nullkuhlguys can some one paste bin me his usplash  ??07:08
nullkuhlPriceChild: can u ?07:08
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tanakahi,is this irc active?07:09
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nullkuhlyea07:10
nullkuhltanaka where r u from..07:10
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tanakanullkuhl: Sri Lanka07:10
gnyffelI need the kopete header files, but I can't find them with aptitude. Anyone?07:10
nullkuhlhmm07:10
nullkuhlu using feisty ?07:10
tanakanullkuhl: yup07:10
nullkuhli need a small favor07:11
nullkuhlcan u pastebin me ur usplash file ?07:11
tanakanullkuhl: where can i get that file07:11
nullkuhlopen a terminal07:11
tanakanullkuhl: ok07:11
nullkuhltype sudo gedit /etc/init.d/usplash07:11
nullkuhlthen press file save as and save it to ur desktop then snd me this file or jsut pastebin it07:12
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tanakanullkuhl: i'm using kubuntu07:13
gnyffeltanaka: use kate or kwrite instead of gedit, then07:13
nullkuhlops07:13
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nullkuhlthat might get worse07:14
nullkuhlbut try anyway07:14
nullkuhltypin kate instead of gedit07:14
nullkuhland see if u find that file07:14
tanakanullkuhl: i got the file07:15
tanakanullkuhl: now what07:15
nullkuhlpastebin it to me07:16
nullkuhlknow how ?07:16
nullkuhltanaka u got msn ?07:16
nullkuhlim i mean07:16
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Daisuke_Idodon't help this twit.07:16
tanakai'm using konversation07:17
Daisuke_Idoand nullkuhl: if you're using ubuntu rather than kubuntu, how about asking in *gasp* god forbid, #ubuntu !!!07:17
nullkuhlDaisuke_Ido: SHHHH07:18
nullkuhltanaka: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/07:18
Daisuke_Idohow about NO.07:18
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nullkuhlcopy and paste all the text in the file in that url and give me the link when u have it07:18
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Daisuke_Idojust fscking google it.07:18
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tanakanullkuhl: I uploaded to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25119/07:19
nullkuhli wudnt have been talkin here if i found something abt thisin google .. how genius of ya07:19
nullkuhlthx ... tanaka............ Daisuke_Ido :P07:20
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SillyZmorning07:20
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_pedroGood afternoon07:22
tanakahow can i remove the old kernel after installing the new one using dist-upgrade?07:22
_pedroI can't get up X after installing nvidia with aptitude07:23
_pedroany help?07:23
SillyZtry dpkg-reconfig xserver-xorg07:24
rothchild_pedro have you checked /var/log/xorg.log?07:24
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SillyZsorry dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:24
_pedroI did it, but I can't find the reason07:24
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_pedrohttp://www.mypastebin.com/?code=174108841707:25
_pedroHere you can find it07:25
sebastianhooker_whats up all?07:25
sebastianhooker_omg i love this song07:26
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sebastianhooker_Now playing: Unknown Artist - Track 2 @ 128 Kbps. (0:47/3:24)07:26
SillyZwhat nvidia card ya got ?07:26
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Hayzeushey again all07:27
Hayzeusi have one more question07:27
_pedroI don't know07:27
SillyZyou dont know which nvidia card you have07:27
_pedronop07:28
SillyZsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:28
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SillyZselect the NV driver07:28
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SillyZand just follow the prompts07:28
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Hayzeusim trying to install my NVIDIA Graphics drivers so it can run OpenGL a bit better than vesa... i have a nVidia 7600 and when i run the install file it says that i have X server running and i need to disable it07:28
_pedroNow I am working with nv driver but I would like to use nvidia07:28
Hayzeusand i dont know how to07:28
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melkordoes anybody here use the infrared port on their laptop?07:28
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jhutchins!ati | Hayzeus07:29
ubotuHayzeus: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:29
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_pedroI am going to reboot and try the command <sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg>07:29
SillyZthanks jhutchins07:29
_pedrosee you now07:29
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melkorOr why doesn't  ' apt-get upgrade ' upgrade my kernel?07:29
smilehello world07:29
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smilei need a help to connect my ftp server07:30
smilei use proftpd07:30
fisnikHi there, I need help with my ATI card07:30
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SillyZ!ati | fisnik07:30
ubotufisnik: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:30
fisnikubotu07:30
fisnikis this a bot?07:30
SillyZinfobot07:31
fisnikI see07:31
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fisnikcan anybody help me increase reoslution on my ATI07:31
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jhutchinsfisnik: Not if you're not willing to read guides.07:31
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melkor!irda07:32
ubotuInformation about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto07:32
fisnikbut my card is installed in kubuntu07:33
fisnikI only need to increase resolution07:33
Daisuke_Idofisnik: then you didn't read the guide07:34
fisnikI'm really confused07:35
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fisnikI just installed the kubuntu07:35
fisnik10 minutes ago07:35
fisnikdont know anything about linux07:35
fisnik:S07:35
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melkorfisnik the guide is pretty thorough07:35
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fisnikI will try to07:37
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jhutchinsfisnik: We usually refer people to guides for two reasons: the question is asked frequently, and the answer is more complex than is practical to explain over IRC.07:39
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fisnikhow do I find this: ystem -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager07:40
fisniksystem -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager*07:40
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fisnikon the system I dont see admini07:40
jhutchinsfisnik: In your case, the answer is a small portion of one of the pages that is referred to, and those of us who don't have ATI cards can still refer you to it,.07:40
TheCreationistCould someone recommend a good GUI app to rip DVD to iPod?07:40
sti need help with the new acer 5920 notebook. can't startx 1280 x 80007:41
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Minataku!resolution07:42
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:42
jhutchinsst: What about 1280x960?07:42
sebastianhooker_TheCreationist: jodix07:42
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Minatakujhutchins: It's probably a widescreen LCD panel07:42
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MinatakuLCD panels tend to be rather static in resolution, especially laptop ones07:43
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stjhutchins you mean change xorg to 1280 x 960?07:43
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styes its a widescreen07:44
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_ubotu_whats up?07:44
markoi07:44
jhutchinsst: you and fisnik might find krandrtray useful.07:45
markoneed help anyway i the terminal i use wget to download someting then i use tar you know but i don 't know where does save the files07:45
marko:D07:45
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Minatakumarko: In the current directory07:45
markoforget it07:45
markoi have it07:45
markoheh:)07:45
_ubotu_marko: lol07:45
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Minataku_ubotu_: I'm pretty sure impersonating the bot is a punishable offense, sebastianhooker07:46
TheCreationistCould someone recommend a good GUI app to rip DVD to iPod?07:46
fisnikcan somebody tell me on how to access: "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager"07:46
_ubotu_minataku: technically i'm not impersonating the bot, there still is _s there07:46
Minataku_ubotu_: You are using a nickname deliberately similar to that of the bot07:47
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MinatakuIt is obvious impersonation of a channel official07:47
fisnikcan somebody tell me on how to access: "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager"07:47
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_ubotu_is _roconnor ever talking?07:47
ardchoille_ubotu_: Why do you use a nick so close to that of the bot?07:48
fisnikI'm using kubuntu07:48
_pedroI am here again07:48
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ardchoille_ubotu_: That may confuse new visitors, just fyi07:48
_pedroI can say that the solution didn't work07:48
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MinatakuHe's gone and back now07:48
sebastianhookerhappy?07:48
MinatakuYes07:48
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sebastianhookerok07:48
MinatakuIn the future: /nick blah07:48
MinatakuNo need to disconnect07:48
_pedroand by the way, my graphic card is Geforce 570007:48
_pedroany other suggestion?07:49
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jhutchins!fixres | _pedro07:50
ubotu_pedro: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:50
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fisnikis anybody here using ubuntu07:51
fisnikkubuntu sorry *07:51
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MartyMcFlyis it possible to play sound from two apps at once? say amarok and firefox?07:52
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MinatakuYes07:52
MinatakuI believe that's what ARTS is designed to do, in fact07:53
MinatakuThough ALSA is also capable of performing such itself, but I believe the card has to have stream mixing capabilities07:53
MinatakuBut KDE uses that ARTS thing which does it in software07:53
MinatakuYou can play sound from a bunch of apps at once if you likw07:54
MinatakuIt'll probably sound like crap, but if that's what you want XD07:54
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MinatakuWow, is that Barracuda freaking loud07:55
MinatakuLike a buzzsaw inside that Mac07:55
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_pedroI think that you don't know exactly what is my problem...08:00
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_pedroI recently installed nvidia drivers with aptitude08:00
_pedrobut I can't start X after that08:01
_pedroI had to load nv driver to have gui08:01
_pedroand I don't know where is the problem08:01
fisnikis anybody here using kubuntu?08:01
_pedroI am08:01
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xerosisfisnik: everyone :p08:01
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fisnikcan somebody tell me on how to access: "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager"08:01
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_pedroIt is a good question08:02
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fisnik?08:02
xerosisfisnik: there isn't one for kubuntu08:02
xerosisit missed the deadline for inclusion for fiesty, it will be in gutsy though08:02
fisnikso how then do I change resolution for ATI card?08:03
xerosisthere's a monitors section in system settings08:03
fisnikbut I only 1024 x 86008:03
fisnikI only see*08:03
fisnikI need higher resolution08:03
xerosisdoes your card support it?08:03
fisnikof course08:04
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ardchoillefisnik: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg08:04
xerosisrun 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'08:04
xerosisdamn, too slow :p08:04
fisnikok let me see08:04
fisnikand then?08:04
christel-5hi all, Beryl is giving me the white screen of death! I'looked up the beryl and ubuntu forums and it seems that it can be fixed by entering some commands in terminal. Now my question is: how do I access the terminal if I don't have access to anything? In a failsafe session? tried that, doesn't work. Any suggestion welcome, I reaaly need to get some work done tonight, so I' willing to remove the whole Beryl/Compiz thingie if needed08:05
fisniki CHOOSE ATI RIGHT?08:05
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_pedroI tried yet 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' but it didn't work08:05
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jhutchins_ltchristel-5: Try ctrl-alt-F108:06
_pedroabout 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg', I think it would load nv driver in my xorg.conf and that is not what I want08:06
ardchoille_pedro: Did you restart X ?08:06
_pedroof course08:06
fisnikI have followed sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg08:06
masterkhi my friend and I were wondering: we are at the download for fiesty, she has a laptop, do we get hte alternative or desktop version?08:06
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fisnikdo I need to do something else08:06
fisnik?08:06
xerosismasterk: desktop is what you want08:06
ardchoillemasterk: Personal preference. The desktop cd is a livecd and the alternate is a text-based installer only.08:07
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masterkoh ok08:07
masterkthx08:07
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christel-5jhutchins: I'm restarting everything and will try ctrl+alt+F1. What should I expect?08:07
fisnikxerosis: I have followed the steps after the command you gave08:07
xerosisyou need to restart X08:07
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fisnikxerosis: pardon my igonrance, but how do I do that?08:08
_pedrois that to me xerosis?08:08
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ardchoillefisnik: ctrl+alt+backspace  (be aware that that will restart x, and kill kde)08:08
fisnikok I will do it08:08
_pedroI see it didn't08:08
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kdehlAre there any diagnose tools for Samsung printers like hp-tools for HP printers? I just want to see how much it is left in the toner.08:09
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fisnikI have done ctrl+alt+backspace08:10
fisniknothing happened08:10
fisnikI see the same resolution08:10
fisnik:S08:10
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ardchoillefisnik: Did you try changing resolutions?08:10
alien__i need to access an openbsd filesystem, does this mean a recompile?08:10
fisnikardchoille: yes I did08:10
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ardchoille!fixres | fisnik have a look at this page08:11
ubotufisnik have a look at this page: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:11
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alien__!ffs08:11
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:11
alien__lmao08:11
fisnikI will try thanx08:11
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alien__ffs is a filesystem08:11
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pjb__hi08:12
_pedroPlease, some help08:12
_pedro(:08:12
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ardchoillealien__: Let them know in #ubuntu-bots08:13
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alien__ardchoille: why would i need to do that?08:13
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alien__hows about i just recompile the kernel with less crap support and more good open support08:14
alien__much easier than moaning08:14
alien__lata08:14
fisnikardchoille: I have followed the page you sent08:14
fisnikbut I encountered problems08:14
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Kr4t05Does anyone know how I could get a screenshot of KDM.08:16
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fisnikardchoille: Can you help me with ATI resolution08:17
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christel-5jhutchins: okaaay... so I tried every command on the beryl & ubuntu sites. Nothing worked. Eventually I listed the processes running and use kill to disable beryl and beryl manager.08:22
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christel-5now the keyboard doesn't work! and the windows have no border, though I think that's got to do with  of emarald. The keyboard issue is quite strange.08:25
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BluesKajchristel-5, just do the  'sudo aptitude remove beryl ' cmnd . if you want to get rid of it for good08:25
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BluesKajthen relogin08:26
christel-5bluesKaj; yes I think I want to remove it for good. But can't do anything without the keyboard!! Any idea?08:27
BluesKajberyl doesn't work well with ati, it's clunky and needs lotsa mods and patches on some pcs08:27
BluesKajso what KB are you using now ..and how are you typing08:28
christel-5I'm on a different comp.08:29
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BluesKajchristel-5, on the other pc then, ctrl+alt+F108:30
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BluesKajit might work08:30
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christel-5crap crap crap. I restarted everything. to redo the whole kill rpocess and see if by mistake I killed the keyboard. Now I don't even have access to alt+ctrl+f108:31
christel-5restarting.08:31
BluesKajthe only thing to do is power off08:31
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christel-5i did power off. now kubuntu is loadding...08:32
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christel-5login menu. should I start a normal session or a failsafe?08:33
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BluesKajok , look in the login menu an see what's listed there08:33
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BluesKajnormal should be ok08:34
fatejudgerdoes anyone know how to disable the madwifi drivers which are current latching onto my card so that I can use ndiswrapper?08:34
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fatejudgerI already tried blacklisting bcm43xx, but that didn't work08:34
christel-5going for kde normal session08:35
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BluesKajchristel-5, right08:35
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christel-5brief appeareance of beloved desktop08:35
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christel-5white screen of death!!!!08:35
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BluesKajok, now can relogin with ctrl+alt+backspace , and choose failsafe08:37
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louis_hey guys08:37
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G3NESISCan someone please tell me where can I go to get support for Beryl?08:37
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BluesKajgawd , what this obsession for eyecandy ... search here:08:38
christel-5ok. now i'm in failsafe with the dreaded scary console...08:38
BluesKaj!beryl08:38
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:38
louis_anybody know if xgl works with fluxbox?08:38
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G3NESISThanks Blueskaj.08:39
BluesKajKB working , christel-5 ?08:39
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christel-5yeap kb working.08:39
christel-5call me chris08:39
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BluesKajchristel-5,    'sudo aptitude remove beryl '08:40
christel-5typing08:40
BluesKajit's better to use your nick so it shows up in red08:40
BluesKajat least it's supposed to :)08:41
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christel-5saying yes to removing08:41
christel-5back to the prompt08:41
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BluesKajok, then do the relogin thing again in normal session, after it's done08:42
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fisnikcan somebody show me on how to increase the screen resolution, I only see 60Hz08:42
fisnikI have ATI card08:42
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christel-5re-logging in normal session08:43
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christel-5white screen of death!!08:43
christel-5maybe I should remove beryl-manager as well?08:43
ardchoillefisnik: To answer your last question to me, I have never used ATI so I can't help, sorry.08:44
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BluesKajfisnik, in the run command type 'kdesu kcontrol' , the enter your password (gives admin permissions) then choose, monitor & display ... look for your grphics card in hardware and configure and apply08:44
fisnikBluesKaj: let me try it08:44
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BluesKajyup, christel-508:45
BluesKajanythin beryl08:45
christel-5ok... going back to failsafe and removing beryl-manager08:45
fisnikBluesKaj: I have done that already08:46
fisnikbut my max resolution is 60hz08:46
fisnikI need higher08:46
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fisnikBluesKaj: the konsole before openin the window reports many failures such as bad device08:47
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BluesKajchristel-5, you may have to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  in the terminal to get a properly working graphics driver ...choose fglrx in the list08:47
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christel-5relogged in in normal session... white screen of death! will try to restart instead of re-logging in.08:48
BluesKajignore the bad device fisnik, that's anormal message08:48
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BluesKajfisnik, don't use the konsole for the commands i gave you , use the run command in the K-menu08:49
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pvandewyngaerdehow do i get my 1440x900 @75 Hz ?? i only get it at 60 Hz08:51
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lonerdesktop freezes after sometime08:51
lonerwats the prob?08:51
christel-5restarted... still white screen of death in normal session. going back to failsafe to remove the beryl autostart...08:52
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dromerhmm, somehow my Xorg is taking 40% cpu, and I have no idea why ..08:52
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fisnikblueskay: can I use the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure08:52
fisnikfrom the run08:52
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BluesKajno fisnik , it's better to use that in the terminal08:53
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christel-5relogging in... brief appearance of desktop... white screen of death!08:54
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lonerpc freezes08:55
lonerany solutions?08:55
fisnikblueskay: when I typed sudo dpkg-reconf....08:56
BluesKajchristel-5, you may have to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  in the terminal to get a properly working graphics driver ...choose fglrx in the list08:56
fisnikIt promts me for some keyboar08:56
fisnikI dont understand08:56
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Kartiloner: I have the same problem...........I need to reboot08:59
Kartibut it only happens when I leave it for sometime08:59
hakaisouquestion:  what package would contain mscorelib?09:00
christel-5doing the reconfigure thingie, since removing the autostart line did not work09:00
hakaisouquestion:  what package would contain mscorelib.dll?09:00
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BluesKajhakaisou, no dll files in linux , that's a windows registry file09:04
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hakaisoubah...09:04
hakaisougonna have to do it the hard way then09:04
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Kartidll - library files for WIndows, can contain all sorts...images forms etc09:04
BluesKajwhat are you trying , hakaisou?09:04
hakaisouvisual basic via mono09:05
iarwain_hiya, anyone know how i can stop my laptop from overheating itself? it gets to 60 withouth starting the fans..09:05
BluesKajmake sure you have some air circulation under the laptop09:05
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Kartihakaisou: Have a look at http://www.nabble.com/Problem-with-mscorlib.dll-t162730.html09:06
Kartiit may help09:06
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iarwain_hiya, anyone know how i can stop my laptop from overheating itself? it gets to 60 withouth starting the fans..09:10
christel-5I'm back, having finished the reconfig.09:10
christel-5restarting from power off09:11
Corey8067Hey Everyone.. i have a problem... i cant use linux.. i had it on dual boot and it just dissappeard09:11
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christel-5looks like I screwed up my screen!!09:11
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christel-5kubuntu loading09:14
christel-5loading09:14
christel-5loading09:14
christel-5... sigh... black screen with a blinking prompt...09:15
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christel-5I give up. going to reinstall the whole think tomorrow. I'll work old on this comp tonight for the emergency and will reinstall everything on the powerful one tomorrow or next weekend.09:17
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christel-5BluesKaj: Thanks for trying...09:18
Corey8067Hey everyone.. i cannot access linux anymore.. the boot thing has disappeared09:18
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Corey8067can anyone help09:18
BluesKajchristel-5, which graphics driver did you chhose ?09:18
sfireCorey8067: did you change the drives around?09:18
Corey8067sfire: no i reinstalled Windows09:19
sfireCorey8067: example... changing master/slave settings or the IDE chain they are plugged into?09:19
christel-5ati, since fglrx was not in the list.09:19
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sfireCorey8067: you will have to re-install grub in the boot sector... I don't happen to know how.. sorry09:19
Corey8067sfire: thanks anyway09:20
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BluesKajchristel-5, , try to get back to the prompt when it's loading by ctrl+alt+F1 and run the reconfig xserver again , this time choose the vesa driver09:20
Corey8067Does anyone know how to Reinstall Grub??09:22
BluesKajchristel-5, and 'sudo apt-get install irssi '  so we can talk on irc from the terminal if need be09:22
christel-5BluesKaj: you love challenges! ok, restarting the machine, just to please you.09:23
BluesKaj hehe :)09:23
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christel-5ok. restarted. stupid pro;pt blinking. running the xserver-config thingie09:24
BluesKajno t to please me , it's happened to me too and i know some work arounds , that's all ...hate to see a perfectly good kubuntu install be ruined by eye candy09:24
christel-5attempt to autodetect video hardware? hell yes!09:25
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cotyrotherycan someone help me with getting wow to work09:25
christel-5X server driver? vesa is here, choosing vesa09:25
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Drbloodwat u type in the terminal to make sound higher09:26
BluesKajchoose vesa, christel-5 , it's generic but it'll get you running again09:26
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christel-5identifier for you useless videocard: ATI bla bla09:26
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cotyrotheryadmiral_chicago how do i get world of warcraft to work09:26
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Admiral_Chicago!wow09:27
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org09:27
Drbloodwat do u type in to make sound louder09:27
Admiral_Chicagothose links should help09:27
Drbloodon the terminal09:27
fisnikcan anybody help me increase resolution and refresh rate for ATI card09:27
cotyrotheryadmiral_chicago: thanks09:27
Drbloodwat do u type in on the terminal to make sound louder >_>09:27
christel-5busId of the video card? no clue, it says PCI:1:0:0... I guess that's correct?09:28
BluesKajfisnik , you have to find your card in the the list and configure it in order to do so09:28
Admiral_Chicagochristel-5: try  alsamixer09:28
Drbloodok09:28
Admiral_Chicagoyou would use the arrow keys to raise volume09:28
BluesKajyeah , just take the defaults , christel-509:28
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christel-5thanks. carrying on...09:29
fisnikBlueskay where to find it? can please help me09:29
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christel-5memory for the video card? if I remember well, it was 256. entering 256.09:29
ahsyamimhello09:29
ahsyamimcan i ask something bout kubuntu?09:30
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fisnikBlueskay where to find it? can u please help me09:30
christel-5wow! had not realised it's in kB not megs.09:30
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Admiral_Chicago!ask | ahsyamim09:31
ubotuahsyamim: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:31
BluesKajfisnik, system settings/ monitor & display/ admin mode / hardware/graphics card configure ...find your card in the list / apply ... then reset the reolution slider09:31
christel-5use kernel framebuffer device interface? no clue. No is highlighted, but I'll choose yes.09:32
BluesKajnot always necessary09:32
fisnikBluesKaj: THe admin mode displays nothing but a red rectangle09:32
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ahsyamimhow to install ATI Display driver?09:32
Admiral_Chicago!ati09:32
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:32
ahsyamimhow to know if that its already istall09:33
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BluesKajdoesn't ask for your password, fisnik?09:33
fisnikbluekay: nope09:33
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fisnikBluesKay: Nope it doesn't and when I click admin mode it only shows a red rectangle, and nothing else in it09:34
claudio_salve a tutti09:34
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BluesKajfisnik , in the terminal : dpkg --configure -a09:34
BluesKajthen reboot or relogin09:35
claudio_dove posso trovare la lista di altri server?09:35
BluesKaj!it | claudio_09:35
ubotuclaudio_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:35
fisnikBluesKaj: I did it09:35
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fisnikBluesKaj: and now09:35
fisnik?09:35
BluesKajfisnik, system settings/ monitor & display/ admin mode / hardware/graphics card configure ...find your card in the list / apply ... then reset the reolution slider09:36
BluesKajerr resolution09:36
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premier_hello, I'm having an issue with alsa, but I don't know how to diagnose it and I don't have much information09:38
christel-5Blueskaj: finished reconfig. startx.09:38
premier_basically, it stopped working when i booted last09:38
christel-5white screen of death!!!09:39
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BluesKajchristel-5, ok relogin in failsafe mode , and use synaptic to remove beryl manager09:39
BluesKajor adept09:40
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jorik808how do i stop postgresql from automatically starting up at boot ?09:42
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fisnikBluesKay I finally managed to change the resolution09:45
BluesKajoops sorry christel-5, 'sudo apt-get remove berylmanager'09:45
fisnikthank you very much indeed09:45
BluesKajfisnik, :)09:45
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fisnikBlueskay: Now it is working really well, I've been here for more tha 2 hours just trying to fix the damn thing09:46
BluesKajyou found your graphics card ok then09:46
fisnikblueskay: thanx again09:46
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BluesKajnp fisnik09:46
sebastianhooker;)09:48
jhutchinsfisnik: All it takes is persistence and the time for somebody to come along who knows your particular problem.09:48
jhutchinsBluesKaj: Didn't you used to be quite the noob a while ago?09:49
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BluesKajstill am , just wrote few things down , jhutchins09:49
jhutchinsSee?09:49
christel-5BlueSkaj: busy removing everything beryl. could be a while since I do it one package at a time. wb btw, was in mourning for a while09:50
fisnikjhutchins: this ATI was driving me mad today09:50
DaSkreechhi BluesKaj09:50
jhutchinsThat's how it goes, you think you're the newbie, then you start to realize you're getting to have the hang of it, then you realize you're answering more questions than you ask.09:50
BluesKaji have text file with commands for problems that i've encountered :)09:50
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jhutchinsSchmart buoy.09:50
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BluesKajyup,,,well I'm an old techie actually jhutchins ...retired labtech guy09:51
jhutchinsUs old guys learn tricks like taking notes.09:52
BluesKajhi DaSkreech ...how goes it ?09:52
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BluesKajyup, gotta take notes ...got into the habit yrs ago09:52
DaSkreechBluesKaj: Not too bad how are you?09:52
BluesKajgood thx , DaSkreech09:53
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BluesKajchristel-5, i tried the failsafe mode and realized it's the prompt so apt was the only alternative to remove the offending apps :)09:55
christel-5BlueSkaj: okaaay. There shouldn't be a shred of beryl left, I used the aptitude comd. Don't even want to think about compiz. shall I try reloging now?09:55
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BluesKajberyl should be banned on ati cards ...it doesn more damage than good :)09:56
BluesKajdid you do compiz too ?09:56
mattsqzati needs to get on the ball09:56
mattsqz1250 in 3dmark for hd2400 vs 1600 in 3dmark for nvidia 8400 :(09:56
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BluesKajdump compiz if possible , never done it so maybe one of the other guys can help here09:57
mattsqzthey better have some bitchin multiplatform drivers hidden in their pants09:57
christel-5yeap. that's what all the sites said. but a lionux user has 200% curiosity more than the average human...it's the wet paint syndrom: a normal person when it says wet paint will stay away. a linux user has to poke to see if it's reaaaaally wet...09:57
keldon85finally a kubuntu build that installed without ANY hiccups!09:57
BluesKajchristel-5, well try a relogin ...i guess ..if compiz is till lingering dunno what may happen09:58
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christel-5won't try to remove compiz: apt-get is aking if I really want to remove the ubuntu-desktop... answer is no, thanks.10:00
christel-5relogging in10:00
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christel-5choosing normal kde session10:01
christel-5loading10:01
christel-5so far so good10:01
christel-5Qapla'10:01
BluesKaj?10:02
ahsyamim!ASK how to enable rendering???10:02
ahsyamim!ASK how to enable rendering???10:02
christel-5Beloved desktop is here and stable. Oh joy! oh rapture! I don't even dare testing the kb or mouse... shall I? yes!10:02
christel-5mouse working10:03
christel-5keyboard working10:03
ahsyamim-------------- how to enable rendering???10:03
dwidmannmattsqz: actually, AMD needs to get on that ball, seeing as they bought ATI.10:03
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Daisuke_Idoahsyamim: define rendering10:03
christel-5blueskaj, when you're next in south africa we'll go see the lions and gireffe. it's on me! alternatively: will you marry me?10:04
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Daisuke_Idoi could say to install blender and that will let you render, but if that's not the type of rendering you're talking about, it's not very helpful10:04
BluesKajchristel-5, not necessary, just glad to help :)10:04
BluesKajok folks ..gotta go do some errands ... BBL10:05
javierHello10:05
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christel-5well, I'm forever grateful.10:05
ahsyamimTRIED TO PLAY BOSON10:05
ahsyamimBUT TO LAG10:05
chlorisHello, may I ask a question? How can I remove a single-pixel border around the kicker? I set a kicker background to dark-blue texture and one-pixel line is above the kicker. The kicker has also one-pixel bigger height than set... Anybody ?10:06
ahsyamimITS SAID THAT RENDERING IS DISABLE10:06
javierGuys I need some hellp please10:06
dwidmann!ask | javier10:07
ubotujavier: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:07
javierI cant modify some documents, I'm new yo linux10:08
Admiral_Chicagoahsyamim: stop using caps. we can read lower case as well10:08
javierI was told to log as root in console, but even if i'm logged in as root in console it doesent works10:08
Daisuke_Idoahsyamim: please turn off caps.  It is not, contrary to popular belief, "cruise control for cool."10:08
Admiral_Chicagojavier: sudo10:08
DaSkreechchristel-5: and if they can get the recipe for the paint so they can add gentoo penguin orange10:08
ahsyamimsorry10:09
christel-5soooo right! lol10:09
Admiral_Chicagoahsyamim: you proably need the ATI driver, did you enable it and restart X?10:09
javiersudo kedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common    NOT WORKS10:09
Daisuke_Idobut it sounds like you need the 3d drivers10:09
Daisuke_Idoand Admiral_Chicago beat me to it10:09
Daisuke_Idojavier: try kate instead10:10
Daisuke_Idoinstead of kedit10:10
Admiral_Chicagojavier: in run command?10:10
javierIn console10:10
Admiral_Chicagokdesu kate <filename>10:10
DaSkreechahsyamim: What video card do you have?10:10
javierI tried doing it by just looking the file and opening, but it says i cant modify the file10:11
javierATI x800gto10:11
Daisuke_Idojavier: hence sudo/kdesu/etc10:11
chlorisnobody has not a dark texture on background of kicker?10:11
Daisuke_Idorun as superuser10:11
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javierwith su?10:11
Kr4t05Is there a simple and easy way to get a screenshot of KDM?10:11
keldon85!tell java10:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about  tell java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:11
keldon85!java10:12
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.10:12
dwidmannchloris: well, I don't ... I've always gone the transparency route10:12
Daisuke_Idojavier: have you been reading ANYTHING anyone's said?10:12
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Admiral_ChicagoKr4t05: Virtualization10:12
javierI was told to log with "su" as a superuser, butit still doednt works10:12
Daisuke_Idokdesu kate /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common10:12
Kr4t05Admiral_Chicago: Eh...10:12
Kr4t05That's a helluva lot of work for one screenshot...10:12
chlorischloris: yes, when i set bg of kicker to transparent the border is gone10:12
Admiral_ChicagoKr4t05: works easily and quickly for me once I had Vbox running10:13
DaSkreechjavier: what is that file for?10:13
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chlorisdwidmann: yes, when i set bg of kicker to transparent the border is gone10:13
chloris:-)10:13
Kr4t05Admiral_Chicago: Pardon?10:13
dwidmannthat got rid of it? Neat10:13
javierto deactivate fglrx10:14
ahsyamimDaSkreech: i hav ATI Radeon X1600 or X130010:14
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DaSkreech!ati | ahsyamim10:14
ubotuahsyamim: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:14
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chlorisyes10:15
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Kr4t05Admiral_Chicago: I'm merely looking to get a screenshot of a custom KDM theme so I can add it to KDE-Look.10:16
Kr4t05There has to be an easier way than setting up a VM.10:16
nixternalKr4t05: if you want, I can grab a screeny for you if you don't feel like setting up vmware or vbox10:16
Kr4t05nixternal: How?10:17
nixternalI don't know if you can set imagemagick and import to get a screeny10:17
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nixternalI use vbox10:17
nixternalyou might be able to set imagemagic up to import an image. say sleep 30 and then run it10:17
dwidmannvmware-server was also dirt easy to set-up in feisty ... it's in the canonical commercial repository10:17
nixternalso when you get to kdm, ctrl+alt+f1 to get tot he term10:17
nixternalsleep 30; import foo &10:18
nixternalthat might work, but I just don't know10:18
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Kr4t05nixternal: I'll try it. Thanks10:18
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: i though you were talking to me about KDE 4 ... though we were in -chicago so I was thinking we were telling me all these weird commands...10:19
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nixternalshoooo fly10:20
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fisnikcan someone help me with AMSN on kubuntu10:22
fisnikI see very bad window - blurred and small fonts10:22
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KartiKr4t05: Why not just use Ksnapshot10:24
KartiIts under the Graphics enu10:24
fisnikcan someone help me with AMSN on kubuntu??10:24
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fisnikit pops up very wierd10:25
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Daisuke_IdoKarti: because ksnapshot isn't going to get a screenshot of kdm?10:25
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Kartiwhat do you mean?10:26
Kartiwhat do you want to screenshot?10:27
jthomasfisnik: i cannot help, never tried it; but Kopete works well and its KDE-native10:27
Kr4t05Karti: KDM, The login screen.10:27
Kr4t05Ugh...10:27
KartiAhh....10:27
KartiI see10:27
KartiWith my knowledge (limited) I would only do that in VMWare unless you can record the screen and do a test with the startup screen10:28
fisnikok10:28
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Kartiand capture remove the image you want10:28
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Drbloodhow do u turn up the system volume again on the terminal >_>10:34
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Drbloodhello?10:36
Daisuke_Idoalsamixer10:36
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eriefishernot much going on here today?10:38
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Drbloodok10:38
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rodrigowhat's up guys10:46
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rodrigoany one can give some info about acteck graphic tablets and ubuntu?10:47
rodrigomore precisally drivers of this hardware10:47
payamis there som program for Freecalls?10:48
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nullkuhlguys  i have 2 question ,, how to send a file using blue tooth in gnome,, and how to change the booting splash of ubuntu using usplash10:53
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Daisuke_Ido1) bih, and 2) gfy10:57
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rodrigodrigo> hello guys does any one of you knows the acteck graphic tablets?10:58
rodrigo[15:54]  <rodrigo> I don't know if kubuntu have drivers that support them10:58
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M3LHey, quick question if someone has time to answer... I have two sound cards of which on eis external Hercules Dj Console and I would like to set it to be the default, where can I do this ?11:05
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mitch_hey, can someone tell me where the IP configuration happens in the Wireless Sign on process?11:19
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adaptrit doesn't11:20
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adaptrwifi is the "physical" layer below IP11:20
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savetheWorldmitch_:  are you referring to DHCP where a wireless client needs to hav an IP assigned?11:23
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mitch_so what would make my IP configuration happen in 2.6.20-15 and not happen under 2.6.20-16?11:24
mitch_yes savethe World11:24
mitch_everything works fine in 20-15.....but i don;t get IP assigned in 2-1611:25
mitch_theres gotta be something 20-16 changed that i should be able to determine and correct11:26
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corpuscallosumhi guys11:28
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corpuscallosumi need a program that i controll my cpu and my cpu fan11:28
corpuscallosumis there any programme ?11:28
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mitch_no one has any ideas what it could be?11:30
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gon!wmv11:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:31
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mitch_anyone?11:33
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damianos_hi11:33
damianos_Could somebody help me11:33
Dr_willisdepends on the problem. :)11:34
damianos_I am trying to find solution to make a video conference with my wife ...She's got windows xp and I have ofcurse kubuntu11:34
damianos_I tried amsn11:34
damianos_twinkle11:34
damianos_kopete11:34
Dr_willisI though GAIm (now called somthing else can do that)11:35
mitch_Could somebody help me?11:35
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Dr_willis!gaim11:35
damianos_Gaim - you mean that it is possible to see her and hear her ?11:35
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.11:35
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Dr_willisI though that was a new feature of Gaim.  but ive never used it.11:35
damianos_kopete doesn't work properly11:35
Dr_willisI consider the webcam video chat stuff useless.. since the video is so well.. useless. :)11:36
damianos_I can only see her without voice chat11:36
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keldon85!kmenu11:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmenu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:36
keldon85!menu11:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about menu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:36
damianos_Notice that I wrote that I would like to videoconference not webcam11:36
lupon1Salve a tutti !!!11:36
keldon85how do you make the kde menu update properly after installs?11:36
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Dr_williskeldon85,  in most cases it should. If it dosent. ya can try logging out/back in to make it rescan the menus11:37
damianos_Dr_willis: I agree webcam is useless but i didn't see my wife for a month :|11:37
Dr_willisthere may be some other kick-ig-in-the-head-way11:37
mitch_do i smell bad or something>11:37
mitch_?11:37
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Dr_willisdamianos_,  use webcam to see her.. and text chat? or use some other progrma to voice chat :) is one way I guess11:38
keldon85Dr_willis: yes, but there is also a way to do it via the command line without logging out11:38
damianos_I tried it11:38
Dr_williskeldon85,   people in #kde may rember. I dont.11:38
damianos_Webcam and skype but there is something wrong with voice connection11:38
damianos_so that is way i am trying to find two in one program11:39
damianos_voice and video11:39
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damianos_What I shame that Skype cannot release video for linux11:39
rodrigohello guys11:39
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keldon85oh wait it didn't install; I had a failed apt update!11:40
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damianos_does anybody know some solution to videoconference in linux ?11:41
damianos_I mean voice and video together ?11:41
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mitch_this is probably why people keep windows....11:42
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damianos_Hmm.. I have to install windows11:43
ArmahgHello, I have Kubuntu installed on my gateway laptop and would like to partition it so I can have a dual boot machine with windows...  I know I can use qtparted for the partitioning and install windows on the new partition11:44
ArmahgIs there anything else i should watch out for? (installing windows XP by the way)11:44
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Dr_willisinstalling xp will trash the linux grub boot loader.11:45
Dr_willisyou will need to reinstall the grub mbr under linux afterwards11:45
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Armahgummm ... is there a website with instructions for that? or do i just boot from a live CD and do the install11:46
Dr_willis!grub11:46
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:46
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Armahgthx!!11:46
Dr_willisboot live cd, chroot over to existing install, run grub-install11:46
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Armahgok .. will do11:46
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corpuscallosumhi guys i need a program that i control my cpu speed and fan11:49
corpuscallosumhave any idea ?11:49
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TheGateKeeperArmahg: another possibility run windows as a virtual machine http://www.virtualbox.org/11:51
Dr_willisHmm. On my laptop - there was some kdeapplet in installed that did the cpu throtteling11:51
Dr_willisno idea about fan speed.11:51
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Armahgi already do that11:51
ubuntugentlemens!11:51
Dr_willisWhere?11:51
inbitado34hi, how do i conect to undernet with kinversation ???11:51
Dr_willis:)11:51
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Armahgactually come to think of it ... a friend of mine also mentioned wine11:52
Armahgso meaybe i don't need windows ...11:52
Dr_willis - undernet irc server? could use the command /server whateverundernetis.org11:52
premier_Hi, I'm having trouble with alsa... it just stopped working last night after I rebooted... I had been messing with alsa earlier, and now I can't fix it11:52
Armahgi think its because i miss virus attacks11:52
Armahgor something along those lines11:52
premier_http://pastebin.ca/55974811:52
Dr_willisor there may be some undernet servers set up in the server dialog/connection area.11:52
ubuntui have a need to run fsck on a reiserfs volume and I'm currently booted to my live cd and my filesystem i need to run fsck on is /dev/sdb3 the correct command in terminal would be reiserfsck --check /dev/sdb3 ?11:52
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premier_heret|c: if no one knows, see what man reiserfsck says11:53
ubuntuok11:54
HymnToLifeubuntu, yet, you can also run fsck /dev/sdb3, it will detect that it's reiserfs and call reiserfsck11:54
ubuntubut thats not me..11:54
heret|cpremier_: i never asked about reiserfs11:54
premier_lol11:54
HymnToLifeyes*11:54
Dr_willisive never used reiserfs11:54
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premier_my mistake11:54
KartiKr4t05: sorry about this but you can use kscreenshot. It has a timer delay. Itried it with the splash screen and it works11:54
ubuntuthanks premier_11:54
heret|ci'm a slackware guy. just wanted to see what allt he ubuntu fuss was about11:54
Dr_willisUsage: reiserfsck [mode]  [options]   device11:55
GrahamI just introduced my mother to kubuntu11:55
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premier_heret|c: well, idk, I've only used kubuntu and mepis... but I don't think I could operate a computer without apt.  I'm useless at resolving dependencys or compiling tarballs... I'd rather have my OS work *for* me11:56
neptunepinkdoes anyone here know how to make [gx] dm execute a particular script when you login?11:56
HymnToLife(mostly because I also run it on mine and it's nice for ditributed compiling :p)11:56
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Dr_willisneptunepink,  that would proberly be more of a feature of the window manager you are loading, not gdm11:56
GrahamBut that's the ease of Kubuntu, I just told her what the programs were for, and she seems fairly happy with it.11:56
neptunepinkDr_willis: I want it to run a script _instead of_ a wm11:56
Dr_willisor ya could always do some changes to the system X startup scripts11:57
Daisuke_IdoDr_willis: wouldn't it be possible to add it to the startup script?11:57
Daisuke_Idoyeah, that.11:57
Dr_willisneptunepink,  make a .desktop script for that script then and have GDM  load it.11:57
Daisuke_Ido:D11:57
Dr_willisdepends on EXACTLY what you are trying to do.11:57
GrahamAnybody here get their parents on Linux?11:57
HymnToLifeyep :p11:57
KartiGraham: Sorry I got mine on Ebay.....11:57
Daisuke_IdoGraham: do grandparents count?11:58
neptunepinkDr_willis: where does the file go?11:58
Dr_willisneptunepink,  gdm and kdm both read a list of  ####.desktop files - which add entries to their 'sessions' menu12:00
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Dr_willistry a 'locate gnome.desktop' i forget where they are at exactly. the gdm and kdm config files dictate where they look12:00
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neptunepinkDr_willis: that got it, /usr/share/xsessions12:01
heret|cubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t smbfs "//the-heretic/My Music" music12:01
heret|cmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //the-heretic/My Music,12:01
heret|c       missing codepage or other error12:01
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GrahamDaisuke_Ido: Yeah, infact you get more points for grandparents because they're even more technically void.12:02
Kartinight all.....12:02
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shiers69I recently have tried to install kubuntu to replace win2k3 on my server, after the installation completes successfully and i attempt to boot from the scsi hd it fails to load the os, it's just a hunch, but i think grub may have been installed on a different drive12:03
shiers69any ideas?12:03
Dr_willisneptunepink,  yea i was looking in /etc/ :) heh..12:03
Daisuke_Idoactually, i think it's the other way around12:03
Daisuke_Idograndparents (mine anyway) just check and send mail, and surf the web some.12:04
Dr_willisshiers69,  if you dont see any grub menu at all.. it proberly got put in the wrong place.12:04
Dr_willis!grub12:04
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:04
Daisuke_Idoi don't think it would matter what OS they were using12:04
Dr_willisshiers69,  ya could switch the boot order of the hd's in the bios and see if ya can get it working12:04
shiers69i could, but i really want grub on the same drive as the os, is there a way to check to see where it installed and uninstall it?12:05
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Dr_willisas far as Uninstalling goes.. you would install a differetn boot loader over it.12:06
Dr_willisThis is when a good reading of the grub homepage/docs comes in handy. :)12:06
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shiers69i also noticed the advanced button during installation, "Help for GRUB selection goes here" and the default is hda012:07
shiers69i think it should be set to something else, but don't know what sda corresponds to12:07
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Dr_willisthe  /boot/grub/device.map  shows what drives are 'where' from a grub point of view12:09
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Dr_willis!qtwindowmaker12:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qtwindowmaker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:09
Marga2002bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz12:09
Dr_willis!qt12:09
ubotuQt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications12:09
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Marga2002bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz12:10
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kharlosshi there.  i want a kde desktop over a fresh server install .  how can i do this ?12:11
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Dr_willisinstall kubuntu-desktop - and GOOD luck. :012:12
kharlossi do this12:12
kharlossbut nothing happened12:12
kharlossi try startx  too12:12
Dr_willisseems the last few people ive seen that wanted to go from a server-install to a full desktop. always have little issues.12:12
kharlossnothing12:13
Dr_willisyou do 'what' ?12:13
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