[12:14] <draik> main2: I'm restarting right now
[12:14] <Sloik> zipper: kdesu
[12:14] <xerosis> darksoul: kdesu for kde
[12:14] <xerosis> oops, too slow
[12:15] <Sloik> Heheh :P
[12:15] <zipper> Sloik: ah yes, thanks. I never use the graphical sudo's
[12:15] <AFaith> neah... it doesn't work at all
[12:16] <FreeSurfer> Salut all
[12:16] <main2> dA!! it rains so hard here
[12:16] <AFaith> big thanks zipper & fdoving!
[12:16] <zipper> AFaith: the code i gave you? Sure it does. You sure you're not doing something wrong?
[12:16] <draik> main2: Logging in... cross your fingers....
[12:16] <main2> feels like the drops are comming trough mywindow in a second
[12:16] <AFaith> FreeSurfer: Romania ?
[12:16] <main2> draik, i do :)
[12:16] <FreeSurfer> ^^ french
[12:16] <AFaith> zipper: maybe .. i don't know :P i'm to tired to think now :))
[12:16] <FreeSurfer> why romania?
[12:17] <AFaith> FreeSurfer: because salut means hello in Romanian ;)
[12:17] <draik> main2: what does the "pci=assign-busses" command do?
[12:17] <zipper> AFaith: no offence, but i think you are, cus' i tested it before pasting it.
[12:17] <zipper> AFaith: doesnt it mean "hello" in french as well?
[12:17] <draik> main2: :(
[12:17] <FreeSurfer> in french hello mean "bonjour" ou "salut"
[12:18] <main2> draik, from what i was reading, it looked like your system is using a yenta card bus
[12:18] <zipper> ou?
[12:18] <Karti> Hi, could someone tell me how to rename a folder and hide it in a command line? I have #mv Personal ./Personal but that does not work......any ideas..cheers
[12:18] <FreeSurfer> or
[12:18] <zipper> ah
[12:18] <FreeSurfer> scuse me ^^ , in french "hello" mean "bonjour" or "salut"
[12:18] <main2> draik, but from other things i read (google..), it seems to be an ALI based chipset
[12:19] <zipper> FreeSurfer: no worries, i think i got it :).
[12:19] <tyron> hi im having problems with my apt-get command can anyone help?
[12:19] <main2> draik, http://www.google.nl/search?q=linux+n5150+cardbus&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[12:19] <draik> main2: So what does that mean?
[12:19] <zipper> tyron: just state your question
[12:19] <main2> you see.. first result is yenta bla bla.. but let me search a bit further
[12:19] <FreeSurfer> tyron give the error
[12:19] <tyron> i get this error when try ti instrall something?
[12:19] <zipper> DemonSamurai: no, you cannot. Ask inhere instead, there are more people to help you here
[12:19] <tyron> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[12:20] <zipper> tyron: tried manually runnning "dpkg --configure -a" ?
[12:20] <Graham> tyron: Guess what you do :)
[12:20] <FreeSurfer> and when you enter dpkg --configure -a'?
[12:20] <AFaith> no problem FreeSurfer! i've tought that i've finally met romanian people here :P
[12:20] <prova> ls
[12:20] <FreeSurfer> ok ok
[12:20] <main2> draik,   40.579973]  Yenta: CardBus bridge found at 0000:00:04.0 [103c:0014] 
[12:20] <FreeSurfer> Hello all
[12:20] <main2> you do have a yenta.............
[12:20] <FreeSurfer> lol
[12:21] <DemonSamurai> !ntfs
[12:21] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:21] <Admiral_Chicago> AFaith: yes
[12:21] <main2> draik, insert that netgear after using pci=assign-busses
[12:21] <main2> then dmesg
[12:21] <draik> main2: Right, but what does it mean from Yenta to ALI?
[12:21] <main2> put it on pastebin.ca
[12:21] <FreeSurfer> im sorry i'm very french
[12:21] <main2> forget what i said about ALI, seems to be wrong info
[12:21] <tyron> ok it worked this time
[12:21] <zipper> FreeSurfer: how do one become _very_ french? :)
[12:21] <DemonSamurai> !fuse
[12:21] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:21] <draik> main2: Let me get this straight...
[12:21] <cicasp> ls
[12:22] <draik> main2: Restart without card in slot. Login, insert card. Run DMESG, then post on pastebin. Correct?
[12:22] <tyron> MB of updates i started to install it failed and said something else using proccess keeps saying that
[12:22] <zipper> tyron: next time, try spending a little more time readin the error description. Unlike windows, linux usually gives you usefull information.
[12:22] <main2> yes, but make sure you use pci=assign-busses
[12:22] <main2> :duh:
[12:22] <zipper> tyron: reading*
[12:22] <AFaith> hello Admiral_Chicago! i'm using Gaim now and i wanna add you, BluesKaj and another people that helped me in my friends list
[12:23] <AFaith> do you want that ?
[12:23] <draik> main2: How do I make sure I'm using it? I just added it to my kernel line
[12:23] <AFaith> before a really go to bed
[12:23] <wsjunior> could anybody help me with fglrx and tv-out?
[12:23] <[agatha] > evening... guys i have lost the menu button in kde...
[12:23] <AFaith> i wanna show zipper & fdoving something : http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/helloworld.html have a look and tell me you oppinion :P
[12:23] <main2> draik, ok hope you did it properly :)
[12:24] <tyron> sorry my adept updater keeps saying something else is using the process? i have rebooted and nothing open to use it?
[12:24] <main2> draik, you are doing it properly .. just continue, get me the pastbin.. :P :D
[12:24] <draik> main2: But should it be busses or buses?
[12:24] <main2> draik, i fished this out of your dmesg, thats fine =) > [17179569.184000]  Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash pci=assign_busses
[12:24] <timd> i just mounted my windows drive to /mnt/windows but it says i don't have rights, what is the right chown command so i can access the files?
[12:24] <Karti> Never mind the answer is # mv Personal .Personal
[12:24] <main2> wait
[12:24] <wsjunior> im trying to get tv-out working to watch movies on tv but i plug the svideo cable and nothing happens. i've alread configured my xorg.conf. how could i get some feedback to check whats wrong?!
[12:24] <main2> draik: pci=assign-busses
[12:25] <main2> how hard can it be :P
[12:25] <draik> main2: Just making sure
[12:25] <main2> =)
[12:25] <draik> The correct spelling of busses is buses
[12:26] <draik> main2: restarting.... network card out of the slot
[12:26] <DemonSamurai> what is the command to open fstab?
[12:26] <main2> cat /etc/fstab
[12:26] <main2> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[12:26] <main2>  :P
[12:26] <wsjunior> this is my xorg.conf, could anybody help me? http://rafb.net/p/49vtET40.html
[12:27] <main2> wsjunior, sup then?
[12:27] <wsjunior> im trying to get tv-out working to watch movies on tv but i plug the svideo cable and nothing happens. i've alread configured my xorg.conf. how could i get some feedback to check whats wrong?!
[12:27] <draik> main2: logging in...
[12:27] <draik> main2: loading up....
[12:27] <main2> yea yea
[12:27] <draik> main2: Let me know when you want me to put in the card
[12:27] <main2> now
[12:27] <main2> ;D
[12:27] <main2> when you see the login
[12:28] <wsjunior> i googled a lot looking for solutions for this issue but none explain in details
[12:28] <draik> main2: Should I do it again? I did it now that everything is loaded
[12:28] <main2> yeah np :)
[12:28] <main2> you can inser/ remove them when you want :)
[12:28] <main2> like usb :)
[12:28] <Tm_T> !adeptcrashfix | tyron
[12:28] <ubotu> tyron: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:28] <draik> Ok.
[12:28] <draik> I'm in and all
[12:29] <draik> What do you need now?
[12:30] <draik> main2: dmesg?
[12:30] <helene> Greets, everyone...
[12:30] <main2> yes
[12:30] <helene> Does anyone have any experience setting up an Intel modem? (I already tried the guide suggested by !modem - didn't really get me anywhere.)
[12:30] <draik> 1 sec
[12:30] <G3NESIS> I'm a newb and I'm having problems compiling source files can someone help me?
[12:31] <CPrgmSwR2> assistance docs are not working
[12:31] <CPrgmSwR2> how do I get those working
[12:31] <helene> G3NESIS: What are you trying to install?
[12:31] <wsjunior> please, could anybody help me to configure tvout with ati card using fglrx driver? this is my xorg.conf -> http://rafb.net/p/49vtET40.html
[12:31] <G3NESIS> First I tried installing xchat because I had other problems.
[12:31] <G3NESIS> I got a c cannot compile executables error.
[12:31] <helene> CPrgmSwR2: You mean when you press F1 in an application, it just says "no documentation available"?
[12:32] <AFaith> good night people
[12:32] <AFaith> thanks for those who helped me
[12:32] <helene> G3NESIS: Have you already made sure what you're trying to install isn't in the repositories?
[12:32] <tyron> ubotu: i did that and still geting this error now  - There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[12:32] <DemonSamurai> !wine
[12:32] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:32] <G3NESIS> I've also tried installing pidgin.
[12:32] <helene> tyron: ubotu's a bot. ;-)
[12:32] <draik> main2: http://pastebin.ca/557266
[12:32] <CPrgmSwR2> This is strictly with KDevelop
[12:32] <G3NESIS> I got past that error by installing lib_6 libraries.
[12:33] <main2> draik, [  128.207668]  pccard: CardBus card inserted into slot 1
[12:33] <G3NESIS> Then it gave me an error about pkg config
[12:33] <helene> G3NESIS: HAVE YOU ALREADY CHECKED THE REPOSITORIES FOR WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO INSTALL?
[12:33] <main2> draik, can you pastebin: ifconfig
[12:33] <main2> ?
[12:33] <draik> no prob
[12:33] <main2> sudo ifconfig > output.txt
[12:33] <G3NESIS> I did,
[12:33] <G3NESIS> No pidgin,
[12:33] <Tm_T> helene: krhm
[12:33] <helene> ok. :-)
[12:33] <G3NESIS> and the gaim installer doesnt work.
[12:33] <wsjunior> for the love of god, could anybody help me to configure tv-out for ati xpress 200m using fglrx driver? lol
[12:33] <helene> G3NESIS: Just install Gaim through Adept
[12:34] <tyron> ok..well anyone else then?
[12:34] <draik> main2: No IP addresses or such... but here goes
[12:34] <helene> wsjunior: I think there might be a special package for the tv-out's on ATI cards. Try searching Adept for "ati tv"
[12:34] <G3NESIS> The adept installer for gaim doesnt work.
[12:34] <helene> Tm_T: ?
[12:34] <Tm_T> helene: no need for caps
[12:35] <Tm_T> (: :)
[12:35] <helene> Tm_T: There is when I'm repeating myself a second time. ;-)
[12:35] <wsjunior> helene: i've already googled enough :/ nothing explaining in details.. tried to follow some tutorials, just asking here in case someone got it..
[12:35] <Tm_T> helene: then consider not repeating? ;-P
[12:35] <helene> wsjunior: I'm not talking about googling. :-)
[12:35] <draik> main2: http://pastebin.ca/557272
[12:35] <wsjunior> helene: im not talking about packages
[12:36] <main2> draik, do you see any devices when you do: sudo iwconfig
[12:36] <main2> ?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> yes helene , wsjunior "atitvout" is in the repos ...I see it in synaptic
[12:36] <helene> wsjunior: What kind of card do you have?
[12:36] <wsjunior> ati xpress 200m
[12:36] <draik> main2: lo, sit0 and eht1 all say "no wireless extensions"
[12:36] <draik> main2: It's not wireless, though
[12:37] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: time for chatter?
[12:37] <main2> draik, do you know the exact type of the netgear wifi card?
[12:37] <draik> main2: It's not a wifi
[12:37] <main2> normal ethernet!?
[12:37] <helene> Not sure, wsjunior. Sorry
[12:37] <G3NESIS> Ok the gaim installer works now for odd reasons.. but I'm still having problems compiling.
[12:37] <draik> yup
[12:38] <helene> Can anyone please help me set up my modem?
[12:38] <main2> draik, but the laptop has built in ethernet as well right?
[12:38] <Tm_T> helene: you mean normal dialup
[12:38] <helene> Right
[12:38] <draik> Nope, this laptop is 7 years old
[12:38] <helene> Tm_T: Already tried the guide from !modem to no avail
[12:38] <main2> draik
[12:38] <Tm_T> helene: is kppp familiar?
[12:38] <draik> Nope, this laptop is 7 years old
[12:38] <main2> type: sudo ifconfig eth 192.168.1.100
[12:39] <main2> what is your gateway/routers ip?
[12:39] <draik> main2: 19.168.1.1
[12:39] <draik> Sorry
[12:39] <draik> main2: 192.168.1.1
[12:40] <main2> ok>  sudo ifconfig eth0 up | sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.110 | sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[12:40] <main2> and you have internet
[12:40] <main2> draik, looks like there's nothing wrong with the card, and > looks like its working, but you need to configure it.. :)
[12:40] <draik> main2: eth0 or eth1?
[12:40] <main2> eth1
[12:40] <main2> sorry
[12:41] <Drblood> o.o
[12:41] <draik> main2: "route: Host Name lookup failure"
[12:41] <helene> Tm_T: It didn't recognize it OotB, so I did "sudo apt-get install sl-modem-daemon sl-modem-source sl-modem-modules" and rebooted, then it "recognized it," but just said "NO CARRIER" when it tries to dial.
[12:42] <main2> draik, route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[12:42] <main2> thats one command huh.............
[12:42] <draik> main2: I typed it in as you gave it...
[12:42] <main2> after doing > ifconfig eth1 up
[12:42] <main2> and ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.110
[12:42] <Tm_T> helene: hmm, now you lost me =)
[12:42] <draik> main2: Got it
[12:42] <main2> draik, you should try to ping it: ping 192.168.1.1
[12:43] <draik> ping -c4 192.168.1.1
[12:43] <helene> Tm_T: So now I've uninstalled sl-modem* and was trying to follow the whole tutorial (I stopped after seeing the kind of modem I have and searching the repo's), but I keep getting errors @ "make"/"sudo make install"
[12:43] <draik> main2: I'M ONLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:43] <draik> main2: YOU ROCK
[12:43] <main2> =)
[12:44] <draik> main2: YOU ARE ROOT
[12:44] <main2> g0t r00t?
[12:44] <Tm_T> stop yelling please, it hurts
[12:44] <draik> No, but I got ROOT's help!
[12:44] <helene> Tm_T: It's an Intel 82801CA/CAM, if that tells you anything?
[12:44] <Tm_T> nope
[12:44] <draik> sorry Tm_T
[12:44] <main2> draik, stop screaming, i feel ashamed because we could have this fixed 20min ago :P
[12:45] <draik> main2: Ok, np
[12:45] <draik> main2: Thank you SO much
[12:45] <main2> ok draik, to finish it off -> you run dapper right :)
[12:45] <main2> draik, you're welcome, but after a reboot .. it will be not working right away..
[12:46] <main2> guys, does dapper have knetworkmanager?
[12:46] <helene> Tm_T: Where exactly did I lose you? :-)
[12:46] <main2> draik, are you on your desktop?
[12:46] <Tm_T> helene: when you started harware mumbojumbo
[12:46] <draik> main2: Yes, I'm on my desktop.
[12:46] <main2> do you see a 'network icon' in the bottom right of your screen? > gently pull the mouse over those icons
[12:46] <draik> main2: I'm running Edgy Eft, not Dapper Drake
[12:46] <main2> 6.10 .. ok, sorry :)
[12:47] <Tm_T> helene: I could understand it, but it would require hour or two I don't have, sorry :/
[12:47] <timd> need help with: "You do not have enough permissions to read file:///dev/sda" I'm trying to make it so i can access files from my windows drive on kubu...and also windows is not showing up in the list when grub starts
[12:47] <helene> Tm_T: No problem
[12:47] <draik> main2: Nope
[12:47] <Tm_T> helene: I had my share of carrier issues when fighting with OSX
[12:48] <draik> main2: KMix, Kopete
[12:48] <draik> main2: That's all I have down there
[12:48] <helene> Tm_T: I think I might've just found something on launchpad. Gonna reboot and try again, brb.
[12:49] <main2> what is the appropriate way to change the default gateway on dapper/edgy?
[12:49] <main2> /etc/network/interfaces .. ok found it
[12:50] <draik> main2: So what do I need to do now?
[12:51] <main2> draik, you need to edit this file .. > /etc/network/interfaces, and make sure that it contains the stuff
[12:51] <main2> im gonna paste in a private message to you
[12:51] <enzo_> main2: I'm in
[12:51] <enzo_> What do I need?
[12:55] <letsgo> Hi I am new to LINUX and had a ? We have an IPOD that we want to download music on how would I go about doing that.  Please help
[12:55] <RawSewage> !iPod
[12:55] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[12:55] <letsgo> yes
[12:55] <G3NESIS> OK.. so forget my compiling problems and move to another one. I tried using the script which allows you to read ntfs partitions and it said "No usable windows/mac partitions found"
[12:56] <letsgo> thank you
[12:56] <main2> =)
[12:57] <mike__> I need help with uploading pictures from my Digital Camera to DigiKam
[12:57] <BluesKaj> G3NESIS, have you checked system settings /advanced/disc&filesystems
[12:58] <G3NESIS> It's ther if thats what your asking.
[12:58] <jriachi> in konqueror, can i make control+wheel up to zoom/increase the font?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> ok G3NESIS
[12:59] <mike__> jriachi: Are you asking if you can Increase The FOnt by holding down CTRL and scrolling the wheel?
[01:00] <jriachi> mike__: right
[01:00] <mike__> Yes you can
[01:00] <mike__> atleast, it works for me
[01:00] <G3NESIS> Blueskaj: Yes.
[01:01] <kjdis> Does anyone know how to get a program to start with X, BEFORE logging in?  I want to run nvtv automatically with X so that TV-out is on and ready, anyone?
[01:01] <jriachi> then something is wrong in my setup, because it scrolls instead of increasing the font , mike__ :S
[01:01] <kjdis> I can't figure out the system's xinitrc and xsession, neither seemed to work
[01:01] <mike__> jriachi: Hmm whats weird
[01:02] <mike__> im kinda too busy to look iunto it, but just check settings
[01:02] <G3NESIS> So any one have any ideas on my problem?
[01:02] <mike__> G3nesis: Whats your problem?
[01:02] <jriachi> mike__: ok, i'll let you know if i figure out something? any idea where to start?
[01:02] <G3NESIS> I tried using the script which allows you to read ntfs partitions and it said "No usable windows/mac partitions found"
[01:03] <mike__> jriachi: umm i would go to Settings and click on Configure
[01:03] <main2> hey enzo_ did it work out properly?
[01:03] <enzo_> main2: I don't know about you, but I think I'm online :P Thank you
[01:03] <main2> yw =)
[01:03] <BluesKaj> G3NESIS, the script you refer to is "ntfs-config"?
[01:03] <main2> so remember for the next time enzo_ all you need to do is configure the eth1 device
[01:03] <enzo_> RIght
[01:03] <mike__> Jriachi: Go to Settings, "Configure SHortcuts"
[01:03] <main2> by adding the gateway to your /etc/network/interfaces
[01:03] <G3NESIS> Diskmounter
[01:03] <enzo_> I can do so in Network
[01:04] <mike__> and scroll through the list to where it says Enlarge Font
[01:04] <main2> your cardbus/adapter are working fine =)
[01:04] <main2> enzo_, its really easy
[01:04] <enzo_> I would assume so, yes
[01:04] <wackjack> what's up
[01:05] <BluesKaj> I get access my windows partition with "ntfs-3g" and "ntfs-config" ...both apps are in the repos
[01:06] <wackjack> is there any way to add add/remove packages... for example, I want to install Aptana it's not listed as any apps under Add/Remove programs and All available Applications
[01:06] <wackjack> :\
[01:07] <draik> wackjack: Be sure the package exists in your repos first "sudo apt-cache search aptana"
[01:07] <BluesKaj> it may be in the non default repos , wackjack...search for it on google-linux and the associated repos will prolly be there
[01:07] <draik> wackjack: If it does, "sudo apt-get install aptana"
[01:08] <G3NESIS> BluesKaj: OK. I'll try that.
[01:08] <draik> wackjack: If not, do what BluesKaj just told you
[01:08] <XtypeWriter74> any midnight commander users or knowhowers around that can help me set vlc player as video player ? here is my /etc/mc/mc.etx --->  http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/11610/
[01:10] <jriachi> mike__: ctrl++ /ctrl+- works, but i can't seem to be able to set it to control+wheelup
[01:10] <wackjack> what is google-linux?
[01:11] <wackjack> im sorry that I dont know the terminology - "non default repos" "asociated repos" etc
[01:11] <jriachi> can anyone tell me if in gimp control+wheelup does zoom in the drawing?
[01:12] <XtypeWriter74> here it doesnt
[01:12] <jriachi> thanks XtypeWriter74
[01:13] <BluesKaj> google has a search called google-linux wackjack , just look for it
[01:13] <XtypeWriter74> np
[01:13] <wackjack> i found it
[01:14] <BluesKaj> very handy , wackjack
[01:14] <wackjack> how do I install a package that isnt in the package manager?
[01:14] <wackjack> I need the APT address or whatnot?
[01:15] <jriachi> mike__: i tested it with anoter useraccount, and there control
[01:15] <joe2371> Hi. My USB flash drive is automatically mounted when I insert it.  This conflicts with VMPlayer.  How can I prevent the thumbdrive from being automatically mounted?  It isn't even in my fstab.
[01:15] <jriachi> mike__: i tested it with anoter useraccount, and there control+wheelup works... so it is not a kubuntu problem, but pebkac :)
[01:16] <Contrast> Greets, everyone...
[01:16] <BluesKaj> BBL, phone
[01:17] <mike__> jriachi: Okay so are you gonna just switch accounts?
[01:17] <Contrast> Can someone tell me where I can download Edgy?
[01:17] <joe2371> Contrast: you're joking, right?
[01:17] <Contrast> joe2371: I wish I was...
[01:17] <jriachi> mike__ i'll try to shot down the problem.. i think it is related to my domino widget-style...
[01:18] <Contrast> joe2371: Trying to get a modem working. I've read in several places that the one I'm working with worked in Edgy, but not in Feisty.
[01:18] <Contrast> joe2371: Just wanna try it from the live CD.
[01:18] <jriachi> mike__: time to write a bug report to the domino-style author :)
[01:18] <joe2371> Edgy is 6.06.  Go to the website and download it.
[01:18] <CPrgmSwR2> How do I get java and firefox working?
[01:19] <mike__> Jriachi: Yep, about the only think you can do about it, other than fix it yourself =D
[01:19] <Contrast> joe2371: What do you mean? Don't bother with Edgy, just use Dapper instead?
[01:19] <joe2371> Contrast: that was directed to you
[01:19] <jriachi> mike__: and putting the increase/decrease fonts in the toolbar :)
[01:19] <coreymon77> why both with either of them when there is feisty
[01:20] <coreymon77> CPrgmSwR2: firefox should work, just apt it
[01:20] <Contrast> Is Edgy really that bad? I mean, I had a couple little problems with it here and there, but I never saw anything that explains everyone's strong distaste for it. Just lucky, I guess?
[01:20] <mike__> Jriachi: that sounds like a good idea
[01:20] <mike__> But i g2g so ill ttyl
[01:20] <coreymon77> Contrast: im with you
[01:20] <Contrast> coreymon77: My modem doesn't work in Feisty
[01:20] <CPrgmSwR2> firefox works
[01:20] <CPrgmSwR2> but firefox + java does not
[01:20] <coreymon77> Contrast: edgy of course isnt perfect, but its not awful
[01:20] <jriachi> bye mike__, have fun!
[01:20] <Contrast> CPrgmSwR2: Run "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin"
[01:21] <CPrgmSwR2> okay thnx
[01:21] <Contrast> np
[01:21] <joe2371> Does anyone know how to prevent a USB drive from automounting upon insertion?  It is preventing me from using it with VMWare.
[01:21] <wackjack> Anyone?
[01:21] <coreymon77> wackjack: what?
[01:22] <Contrast> So no one knows where I can get Edgy?
[01:22] <CPrgmSwR2> lol
[01:22] <joe2371> Contrast: Isn't Edgy also known as 6.06?
[01:22] <Contrast> joe2371: No, that's Dapper
[01:22] <Contrast> Edgy's 6.10
[01:22] <Admiral_Chicago> joe2371: 6.10
[01:22] <joe2371> oic
[01:22] <Admiral_Chicago> lsb_release -a :)
[01:23] <Contrast> joe2371: When you first told me to just go get 6.06, I thought you meant Edgy's crap - just get Dapper instead. Hehe
[01:23] <joe2371> Contrast: hold on
[01:23] <CPrgmSwR2> http://ubuntu.mirrors.skynet.be/pub/ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/6.10/
[01:23] <CPrgmSwR2> Theres edgy
[01:23] <joe2371> Contrast: go to the download page and at the bottom, select "complete list of download locations"
[01:23] <joe2371> Contrast: then select a mirror from the list
[01:23] <CPrgmSwR2> Edgy --> http://ubuntu.mirrors.skynet.be/pub/ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/6.10/
[01:24] <Dr_willis> I like Farting Fawn! :)
[01:24] <joe2371> Contrast: then navigate to the iso for 6.10
[01:24] <Contrast> Sweet. Thanks joe2371, CPrgmSwR2
[01:24] <G3NESIS> I had a problem with the Diskmount script for accessing windows partitions, and was told to use "ntfs-3g" and "ntfs-config". I've installed them, so how do I use them?
[01:24] <Contrast> Ugh... The default for clicking an iso in Konqueror is to open it in Kate.
[01:25] <joe2371> Anyone know what daemon controlls automounting USB devices?
[01:25] <CPrgmSwR2> yes
[01:26] <CPrgmSwR2> no waht
[01:26] <CPrgmSwR2> its hald
[01:26] <joe2371> hald? ok, thanks
[01:26] <CPrgmSwR2> hal or hald
[01:26] <aroo> Contrast: you can change default applications for file types
[01:27] <Contrast> aroo: I know. I just thought that was a weird default. :-)
[01:27] <maver1ck> hello
[01:27] <XtypeWriter74> hello. can somebody please help me set vlc player as video player in midnightcommander ? here is my /etc/mc/mc.ext --->  http://sial.org/pbot/25471   when i for example open a .swf file i get this message Error: no "view" mailcap rules found for type "application/x-shockwave-flash"  but vlc alone opens such files
[01:28] <maver1ck> i don't know if this good place to talking about Xgl bugs
[01:28] <Contrast> If I click an .iso on a website, why would I want to look at it in a text editor?
[01:28] <maver1ck> but i'm looking for advice
[01:28] <Contrast> maver1ck: Might try #desktop-effects first. They might be more well-versed in the matter
[01:28] <Contrast> maver1ck: Trying to get Beryl running, I assume?
[01:28] <maver1ck> Contrast, ok, but those bugs are connected with session management and automount
[01:29] <maver1ck> beryl is up and running
[01:29] <G3NESIS> I had a problem with the Diskmount script for accessing windows partitions, and was told to use "ntfs-3g" and "ntfs-config". I've installed them, so can someone please tell me how do I use them?
[01:29] <Contrast> maver1ck: Ohh, nevermind then. :-)
[01:29] <maver1ck> but i've got two things not working properly
[01:31] <maver1ck> 1. shutdown / restart button - I found script with cookies clone between x servers but it doesn't work for me
[01:31] <maver1ck> 2. no automount in KDE - no idea what is happening - google doesn't give any advice
[01:32] <maver1ck> (automount is working when on normal X server)
[01:32] <maver1ck> (maybe those bugs are connected)
[01:32] <ubuntu__> dang
[01:32] <ubuntu__> anyone remember who i am?
[01:33] <Contrast> I couldn't get anything in regards to logging out/shutting down working with Xgl (or any session when using fglrx for that matter). Logging out just led the system to a complete freeze, where nothing but RSEIUB'ing would work. Have to ctrl+alt+backspace everytime I want to change users or sessions.
[01:33] <Contrast> ubuntu__: Not with that name. ;-)
[01:33] <gon> !ati
[01:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:33] <ubuntu__> lol
[01:33] <ubuntu__> im in the live cd
[01:33] <ubuntu__> with konversation
[01:33] <wackjack> is there any way to add add/remove packages... for example, I want to install Aptana it's not listed as any apps under Add/Remove programs and All available Applications
[01:33] <ubuntu__> my kubuntu installs are wonkers
[01:34] <Contrast> wackjack: Check in Adept Manager
[01:34] <CPrgmSwR2> what is  your real nick ubuntu__
[01:34] <ubuntu__> hmm
[01:34] <maver1ck> Contrast, 1. only problem is that on logout dialog there is only one button - log out
[01:34] <wackjack> contrast: what is that?
[01:34] <ubuntu__> i stuck with ubuntu_ all day
[01:34] <jabagawee_> but i can live with this name
[01:34] <jabagawee_> i dont think any of you know me as jabagawee, just ubuntu_
[01:34] <CPrgmSwR2> lol
[01:34] <CPrgmSwR2> I am just happy I got kde4 working
[01:34] <jabagawee_> hmm
[01:35] <jabagawee_> my install blew up on me
[01:35] <Contrast> wackjack: If it's not there, google around for a deb, then an rpm if you can't find that (you'll need alien to install rpm's), and if all else fails, you have to compile from source.
[01:35] <jabagawee_> and i had so much stuff installed
[01:35] <Contrast> wackjack: K Menu -> System -> Adept Manager
[01:35] <jabagawee_> so can anyone halp me do a mini-backup
[01:35] <CPrgmSwR2> Try having a gentoo install where everything is compiled... I had it prefectly set up and  fsck my hard drive not knowing what I had done and come to find out all data was deleted
[01:35] <Contrast> wackjack: Adept Manager lists every single available package, rather than just the programs that have .desktop files (like Adept Installer - Add/Remove) does
[01:35] <jabagawee_> i just want: files on desktop, config files for mozilla, evolution, gaim, ktorrent, and some half-finished ktorrent downloads
[01:35] <wackjack> ooo
[01:36] <jabagawee_> hmm
[01:36] <maver1ck> wackjack, http://afterxleep.com/blog/ubuntu-aptana-repository/
[01:38] <wackjack> wtf
[01:38] <wackjack> that opens up my original web authoring software
[01:40] <jarn> Do changes made in nvidia-settings impact games that are already running?
[01:41] <Contrast> jarn: My guess would be probably not
[01:41] <jarn> Contrast: Okay, thanks.
[01:41] <Contrast> jarn: Some of the settings in there don't take effect until you restart X, I think
[01:41] <jabagawee_> any ideas how to salvage any files before i reinstall?
[01:41] <Contrast> np
[01:41] <jarn> Contrast: Do you know which are which?
[01:42] <Contrast> jarn: Not offhand. Haven't used nvidia-settings in a goog while
[01:42] <jarn> Contrast: Okay, thanks anyway.
[01:42] <Contrast> jabagawee_: From the live CD - K Menu -> System -> QtParted
[01:42] <Contrast> yw
[01:43] <jabagawee_> hmm
[01:43] <jabagawee_> whats that o
[01:43] <jabagawee_> do
[01:43] <SillyZ> greetings, need a lil help with a pxeboot installation
[01:44] <Contrast> jabagawee_: You'll want to open a terminal and do "sudo mkdir /media/original" "sudo mkdir /media/partition2"
[01:44] <Contrast> jabagawee_: (You can name those folders whatever you want, as long as they're in /media)
[01:44] <jabagawee_> okay
[01:44] <jabagawee_> and then?
[01:45] <Contrast> jabagawee_: Then "sudo mount /dev/name-of-partition-youre-trying-to-rescue /media/original"
[01:45] <jabagawee_> hmm
[01:45] <jabagawee_> the partition im saving
[01:45] <Contrast> jabagawee_: right
[01:45] <jabagawee_> sda6
[01:45] <Contrast> jabagawee_: With me so far?
[01:46] <jabagawee_> yea
[01:46] <jabagawee_> done everything so far
[01:46] <Contrast> jabagawee_: then "sudo konqueror", go to /media/original and delete all the stuff you don't want
[01:46] <jabagawee_> umm
[01:46] <jabagawee_> lets not do that
[01:46] <jabagawee_> there may be some hope left
[01:47] <jabagawee_> how bout i just move files to a flash drive?
[01:47] <Contrast> jabagawee_: You could do that too. I was gonna suggest moving them to a seperate partition, but whatever's clever
[01:47] <jabagawee_> hmmm
[01:47] <G3NESIS> I had a problem with the Diskmount script for accessing windows partitions, and was told to use "ntfs-3g" and "ntfs-config". I've installed them, so can someone please tell me how do I use them?
[01:47] <jabagawee_> okay
[01:48] <Dr_willis> ntfs-config is  a command ya run.
[01:48] <Dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[01:48] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:48] <jabagawee_> sudo konqueror keeps crashing
[01:48] <jabagawee_> on me
[01:48] <Dr_willis> crashing with coredumps? or just failing to start?
[01:48] <Contrast> jabagawee_: Try Alt+F2 -> kdesu konqueror
[01:49] <Contrast> Or maybe Konqueror doesn't even have to be run as root for it to do this stuff if you're running off the live CD, I'm not sure
[01:49] <Contrast> I thought it did though
[01:50] <Contrast> Sorry, I don't know much. :-P
[01:50] <jabagawee_> how do i know what progs i have installed
[01:50] <jabagawee_> in the sda6
[01:51] <Contrast> jabagawee_: I'm guessing you're getting an error when GRUB tries to boot?
[01:51] <jabagawee_> no
[01:51] <jabagawee_> not even close
[01:51] <jabagawee_> i can boot
[01:51] <jabagawee_> but everything is all screwy
[01:52] <Contrast> Screwy to the point where you can't open Adept to see what's installed?
[01:53] <Contrast> I'm like, 99% sure there's a file somewhere that lists every package installed on your system, but I've no idea where to look for it. Possibly /etc/apt
[01:54] <Contrast> nevermind, it's not there
[01:54] <Dr_willis> i think theres some apt? command that can list them all
[01:55] <Tm_T> dpkg --get-selections | grep install ?
[01:55] <Tm_T> no, that's not right
[01:56] <Contrast> I think I can hear jabagawee_ banging his head from here.
[01:57] <Tm_T> dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[01:57] <Tm_T> to list only installed packages
[01:59] <Tm_T> whops
[01:59] <Tm_T> that list also purged
[01:59] <Tm_T> oh well, just more grep
[01:59] <crdlb> dpkg -l|grep ii ?
[01:59] <darkrift> i got a q
[01:59] <Tm_T> heh
[01:59] <Tm_T> that too
[01:59] <darkrift> i tried installing an ocr program yesterday
[02:00] <darkrift> and it didnt havce many intrusctions
[02:00] <darkrift> the instructions seemed to be aimed at redhat or soemthing, so im missing dependancies i believe
[02:00] <G3NESIS> !nvidia
[02:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:01] <darkrift> In addition to tesseract, a few development libraries had to be installed, but this is a breeze with urpmi:
[02:01] <darkrift> # urpmi jam aspell-devel libtiff-devel libpng-devel libjpeg-devel
[02:01] <darkrift> i tried getting those with apt-get, no luck
[02:02] <Tm_T> darkrift: prolly -dev
[02:03] <darkrift> when i try to ./configure, i get this
[02:03] <darkrift> checking for /usr/local/include/tesseract/baseapi.h... no
[02:03] <darkrift> Tesseract headers not found in `/usr/local/include/tesseract'!
[02:04] <Tm_T> darkrift: mind to do "locate baseapi.h | grep tess" ?
[02:06] <darkrift> nothing returned
[02:06] <ivan_> hi hi
[02:07] <ivan_> Can anyone point me to some resources on how getting Ubuntu working well with a Thinkpad X41?
[02:07] <ivan_> I'm have some issues with the Trackpoint and keyboard.
[02:08] <Tm_T> darkrift: hmm, then you have to find out where that file is, maybe do searching in packages.ubuntu.com and almighty google
[02:09] <Daisuke_Ido> Tm_T: is it possible his locate db is way outdated?
[02:10] <Tm_T> sure it is
[02:10] <osiris> where do i change the workgroup my smb shares are on ?  for the server side of samba
[02:12] <osiris> i thought there was a feild in the system settings someplace
[02:16] <darkrift> if anyone here can go to http://groundstate.ca/ocr and scroll down to the tesseract part and figure out how to install this on kubuntu, id be greatly appreciative :)
[02:16] <darkrift> been working on it for 2 days now
[02:16] <darkrift> and since its not official kubuntu software, i didnt wanna ask in here
[02:17] <mattsqz> um
[02:17] <G3NESIS> How do I disable x server?
[02:17] <wolferine> how do you setup sendmail ?
[02:18] <mattsqz> http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/   ?
[02:18] <mattsqz> http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/downloads/list
[02:19] <mattsqz> what is it exactly that is giving you rproblems?
[02:24] <darkrift> odd
[02:24] <G3NESIS> I'm trying to install nvidia drivers, the information on the ubuntu help page isn't of much help, can someone point me in the right direction.
[02:24] <darkrift> figured linux would be plug n play with usb mice
[02:24] <darkrift> damnit
[02:25] <mattsqz> l/me stifles laughter
[02:26] <mattsqz> kubuntu should work automagically with usb mice
[02:26] <mattsqz> is it that particular mouse maybe
[02:27] <mattsqz> or perhaps your usb ports
[02:27] <mattsqz> g3nesis, which nvidia drivers are you trying to install, there are many
[02:28] <terrestre> !mono
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mono - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <G3NESIS> Uhm...I don't even know which I need to install.
[02:29] <mattsqz> well, what is it that you are trying to do
[02:30] <G3NESIS> I
[02:30] <mattsqz> do you need 3d? trying to run a game, or beryl?
[02:30] <terrestre> !es
[02:30] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:30] <G3NESIS> I just need a higher res for now.
[02:30] <Tm_T> G3NESIS: what exaclty is your problem?
[02:30] <G3NESIS> this 1024 is making my head hurt.
[02:30] <Tm_T> G3NESIS: check your xorg.conf
[02:30] <G3NESIS> How do I do that?
[02:31] <G3NESIS> I'm a total newb at linux. I just installed Kubuntu last night.
[02:31] <wayl_> join #php-es
[02:31] <Tm_T> G3NESIS: "kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:31] <mattsqz> you might also check "system settings"
[02:32] <Tm_T> mattsqz: it's using highest resolution automatically, I think
[02:32] <mattsqz> mine defaulted to 1024x768
[02:32] <mattsqz> even though up to 1280x1024 was available
[02:32] <Tm_T> interesting
[02:33] <Tm_T> but still loonking xorg.conf is not a bad idea
[02:33] <coreymon77> ya
[02:33] <mattsqz> im using a geforce 6100, might make a difference
[02:33] <coreymon77> its better to do it in system settings
[02:33] <Tm_T> coreymon77: sure
[02:33] <Tm_T> G3NESIS: got it?
[02:33] <vip3rousmango> whoa, hello everyone
[02:34] <mattsqz> mucking with xorg.conf the wrong way can break the monitor & display applet
[02:34] <Tm_T> G3NESIS: hit alt+F2 to have launcher open and enter that command I gave you to it
[02:34] <wolferine> how can I send emails using php?
[02:34] <Tm_T> mattsqz: hey, we are not editing it now ;-P
[02:34] <Tm_T> mattsqz: just looking
[02:34] <G3NESIS> Ok i'm there.
[02:34] <wolferine> i installed the sendmail, but no idea on how to set it up, nor php
[02:34] <G3NESIS> All the info is right down to the monitor.
[02:34] <Tm_T> G3NESIS: see resolutions there?
[02:35] <Tm_T> and they are ok?
[02:35] <ebc> algun admin de kubuntu-es por aqui ?
[02:35] <Tm_T> mattsqz: saw I didn't gave kdesu or anything, so he can't edit it
[02:35] <mattsqz> ic
[02:35] <Tm_T> ebc: /join #kubuntu-es ?
[02:36] <Tm_T> G3NESIS: what you see is heart of your monitor and controller settings, so if things go bad, you might end up editing those
[02:37] <Tm_T> G3NESIS: if resolutions there is ok, just close it, it's fine
[02:37] <Tm_T> G3NESIS: then jump into system settings and try if you can set higher resolution there
[02:38] <G3NESIS> I have a set of resolutions under the screen subsection.
[02:38] <Tm_T> and?
[02:38] <G3NESIS> Is that what I'm suppose to look for.
[02:38] <Tm_T> yu
[02:39] <G3NESIS> In the monitor settings I cant go any higher, than 1024
[02:39] <notebook> dae galera
[02:39] <Tm_T> hmm
[02:39] <Tm_T> !br | notebook
[02:39] <ubotu> notebook: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:39] <vip3rousmango> anyone know how to get ubuntu to read .rar files? I've been looking online and although I can find post, i still have no idea wtf im doing
[02:40] <coreymon77> vip3rousmango: sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[02:41] <vip3rousmango> in terminal??
[02:41] <G3NESIS> Tm_T: I've figured it out.
[02:41] <coreymon77> yup
[02:41] <vip3rousmango> kk, i'll try it now
[02:41] <vip3rousmango> thanks
[02:41] <Tm_T> G3NESIS: all ok now?
[02:41] <coreymon77> vip3rousmango: install those packages and then ark will be able to do it
[02:41] <G3NESIS> I went into admin mode under monitor setting and changed the monitor.
[02:41] <Tm_T> ah ok
[02:42] <coreymon77> G3NESIS: wait a sec, the resolution is giving you a headache, so you want to increase it
[02:42] <G3NESIS> That was the problem.
[02:42] <coreymon77> G3NESIS: why would you want to make it smaller if you have a headache
[02:42] <G3NESIS> Near sighted.
[02:42] <G3NESIS> I have to back up to read.
[02:42] <coreymon77> G3NESIS: you mean far sighted
[02:42] <coreymon77> if your near sighted you would want a lower resolution
[02:43] <Tm_T> coreymon77: you can't imagine how bad it is to look 1024x768 after 1600x1200 ;-P
[02:43] <mattsqz> depends on screen size
[02:43] <vip3rousmango> coreymon77: thanks! it worked
[02:43] <G3NESIS> I just know it's easier to read small text then big.
[02:43] <mattsqz> sounds strange to me a resolution giving you a headache though
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> what would be the most appropriate FS for media storage.  i'll be adding media, but not deleting often...
[02:43] <mattsqz> its usually a refresh rate that bothers me ;)
[02:43] <vip3rousmango> coreymon77: you wouldn't happen to know of a terminal/command cheat-sheet? so i can start learning for linux
[02:44] <FroggyTheGreat> I'm trying to install Gutenprint 5.1.2 from source, and my "make" always errors out, even though the exact same tarball and exact same sequence of commands worked on my dad's Kubuntu box.  Any suggestions even where to begin to troubleshoot?
[02:44] <Tm_T> mattsqz: just like looking ms logo is giving you headache ;-P
[02:44] <mattsqz> today my nokia has been giving me a headache
[02:45] <vip3rousmango> today my girlfriend has been giving me a headache
[02:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm thinking probably ext3 because it's been around for a while
[02:45] <vip3rousmango> too bad i can't shutdown her ass :(
[02:45] <terrestre> jajaja maybe we need aspirin
[02:45] <mattsqz> trying to make openbox work under os2006
[02:45] <vip3rousmango> =\ nice
[02:45] <Tm_T> mattsqz: 770?
[02:45] <mattsqz> yup
[02:45] <terrestre> someone using mono?=
[02:46] <Tm_T> terrestre: what you mean by "using" here?
[02:46] <mattsqz> ive had it working under 2007he it doesnt disconnect wireless when i slide the cover on, and that drains battery
[02:46] <terrestre> sorry for my english, i mean, monodevelop
[02:47] <mattsqz> figured id start with openbox under 2006, and if i can get that working give kde a shot
[02:51] <FroggyTheGreat> I'm trying to install Gutenprint 5.1.2 from source, and my "make" always errors out, even though the exact same tarball and exact same sequence of commands worked on my dad's Kubuntu box.  Any suggestions even where to begin to troubleshoot?
[02:52] <mattsqz> what errors do you get
[02:53] <FroggyTheGreat> I'm trying again with a redownloaded package.  I'
[02:53] <FroggyTheGreat> ll tell you exactly once it happens.
[02:57] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok, I get a bunch of undeclared identifiers, and then Error 2 and that's when it exits.
[02:57] <FroggyTheGreat> Again, this exact tarball compile dfine on my dad's system.
[02:58] <louis_> hello?
[02:58] <louis_> first time on IRC. is anyone getting this?
[02:58] <FroggyTheGreat> Yes
[02:59] <louis_> oh sweet
[02:59] <louis_> first time on kubuntu too. so far so good =)
[02:59] <louis_> anyone know where I can get IRC support for modem?
[03:00] <mattsqz> irc support for modem? ....
[03:00] <louis_> sorry. i'm trying to get my modem to work
[03:00] <louis_> and i can get on irc but not on the world wide web
[03:00] <louis_> and i was wondering if there was a channel for that
[03:00] <wolferine> how can I test if sendmail is working?
[03:00] <Tm_T> louis_: you mean: you can get irc traffic through, but not http?
[03:00] <louis_> yes
[03:01] <louis_> and Kopete works too
[03:01] <Tm_T> louis_: any proxy in use?
[03:01] <mattsqz> dns
[03:01] <Tm_T> mattsqz: irc and msn uses dns too
[03:01] <mattsqz> not always
[03:01] <louis_> no proxy. direct connect. that's how it should be
[03:01] <louis_> as far as DNS i left it on default
[03:01] <Minataku> louis_: How did you connect to the IRC server?
[03:02] <louis_> i just started Konversation ...
[03:02] <Tm_T> plop, dns
[03:02] <Minataku> But the web browser doesn't go anywhere?
[03:02] <louis_> nope
[03:02] <Minataku> Try again
[03:02] <louis_> it says it can't find the host
[03:02] <Minataku> Try typing in www.google.com
[03:03] <mattsqz> try pointing your browser to http://64.233.161.103/  <--thats google also
[03:03] <Minataku> Just in case something is up with whatever default page Kubuntu is pointed to
[03:03] <Minataku> mattsqz: One at a time
[03:03] <louis_> mattsqz:  it wont connect
[03:03] <louis_> and i tried google.com
[03:03] <louis_> same problem
[03:03] <Tm_T> hmm, I wonder if https works
[03:03] <Minataku> louis_: That makes no sense :\
[03:04] <Minataku> Unless you messed with some firewall settings somewhere
[03:04] <Minataku> Someone get me an HTTP server on 8080
[03:04] <Minataku> Or get it for him, rather
[03:04] <mattsqz> http://glcfapp.umiacs.umd.edu:8080/esdi/index.jsp
[03:04] <Tm_T> hmm, why I have nat on
[03:04] <Tm_T> GAH!
[03:04] <Minataku> louis_: Try going there
[03:04] <osiris> how about 6969 ?
[03:04] <Minataku> Thanks, mattsqz
[03:05] <louis_> adept doesnt work either. the packages are grayed out
[03:05] <Daisuke_Ido> apparently kubuntu doesn't like users toying with swap space while it's working...
[03:05] <Minataku> louis_: Try going to http://glcfapp.umiacs.umd.edu:8080/esdi/index.jsp
[03:05] <louis_> just konversation and kopete work so far
[03:05] <louis_> oh and my modem dies unexpectedly
[03:05] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: That's a bad idea no matter what the OS
[03:05] <Daisuke_Ido> (moved swap from a slow pata hd to the new sata hd)
[03:05] <Daisuke_Ido> just required a reboot
[03:06] <Tm_T> Daisuke_Ido: it doesn't
[03:06] <Minataku> Of course
[03:06] <Tm_T> Daisuke_Ido: swapoff && swapon
[03:06] <mattsqz> you can safely do it if you set up 2 swaps and switch em up properly
[03:06] <Daisuke_Ido> probably could have done it without a reboot, but hey
[03:06] <Daisuke_Ido> mattsqz: i set up a second swap first
[03:06] <Tm_T> louis_: welcome back
[03:06] <Minataku> Tm_T: I'd turn on the new first
[03:06] <louis_> i'm back... again. damn
[03:06] <mattsqz> my nokia craps all over me if i drop the mmc1 partition while swap is on hehe
[03:06] <louis_> lol
[03:06] <Minataku> Then turn off the old
[03:06] <Tm_T> Minataku: naaah
[03:06] <Tm_T> Minataku: who uses swap anyway ;--P
[03:06] <Daisuke_Ido> but hey, i'm still learning :D
[03:06] <Minataku> Really, though, I'd reboot for such an operation anyway
[03:06] <louis_> yeah my modem dies sometimes too
[03:06] <mattsqz> but it doesnt use a seperate swap part
[03:07] <Minataku> It just seems like the proper thing to do, even with Linux
[03:07] <Minataku> It's best to let it set the swap up properly
[03:07] <Daisuke_Ido> but everything is in working order
[03:07] <louis_> why would IRC and AIM work but not http?
[03:07] <Daisuke_Ido> and i now have an empty 279gb partition i can move my music to
[03:08] <mattsqz> they operate on different ports, louis
[03:08] <Minataku> louis_: Try going to http://glcfapp.umiacs.umd.edu:8080/esdi/index.jsp
[03:08] <Daisuke_Ido> louis_: because port 80's blocked?
[03:08] <louis_> it said could not connect to host
[03:08] <Minataku> If that works, you have port 80 blocked somewhere
[03:08] <louis_> how do i unblock a port in kubuntu?
[03:08] <louis_> or what would be blocking it?
[03:08] <mattsqz> so...you're on dialup, louis?
[03:08] <louis_> i dont have a firewall
[03:08] <louis_> yeah i'm on dialup
[03:08] <louis_> until september lol
[03:09] <Daisuke_Ido> now for the next phase, swapping mount points for storage and music
[03:10] <louis_> has anyone here ever used the linuxant modem drivers?
[03:11] <Minataku> Let's see if virtualbox 1.4.0 compiles
[03:11] <Minataku> 1.3.8 exploded
[03:11] <mattsqz> im about to give up on os2006 for this use
[03:11] <mattsqz> ill just keep it on the flash rom and put 2007 on the mmc :\
[03:12] <Minataku> Cellphone and pocket PC hardware totally suck due to their ultra-proprietary nature
[03:12] <arthur_kalm> hi everyone, I was wondering if this: http://gimpel.gi.funpic.de/wiki/index.php?title=Howto:convert_aac/mp4_to_wav/mp3/ogg_on_Linux is lossless
[03:12] <arthur_kalm> i.e. convering aac (m4a) to mp3... is it lossless?
[03:12] <Daisuke_Ido> is it lossless aac?
[03:12] <Minataku> No
[03:12] <louis_> no
[03:12] <Minataku> MP3 is a lossy format
[03:12] <khaije1> !ipod
[03:12] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[03:13] <Minataku> If you ask me, there's no difference
[03:13] <louis_> and i think you lose data when converting between most audio formats
[03:13] <mattsqz> this isnt proprietary so much..its basically busybox
[03:13] <Daisuke_Ido> if you wanted to convert a lossless aac to wav you're fine
[03:13] <Minataku> If you're some elitist audiophile then it's like listening to a toilet
[03:13] <Minataku> (There's really no difference, hint)
[03:13] <louis_> lol minataku
[03:13] <Daisuke_Ido> louis_: NOT true.  flac, shn, ape, wav
[03:13] <Daisuke_Ido> all are lossless
[03:13] <louis_> really?
[03:13] <arthur_kalm> khaije1: I know how to sync to the ipod :P
[03:13] <G3NESIS> Ok, I still can't get a resolution higher than 1024.
[03:13] <Daisuke_Ido> and i used to think the same way Minataku
[03:13] <arthur_kalm> louis: so it is lossfull?
[03:13] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: I always assume some loss of data in any format transfer
[03:14] <louis_> yeah i thought it was
[03:14] <arthur_kalm> Daisuke_Ido: I'm asking about converting from aac to mp3
[03:14] <G3NESIS> I restarted x and the setting revert back to 1024
[03:14] <louis_> aac to mp3 should be
[03:14] <Minataku> Really, from analog to digital, you're already losing a lot of detail
[03:14] <khaije1> arthur_kalm: hmm? i want to replace the firmware w/ linux
[03:14] <Daisuke_Ido> there are very VERY few times, but there are times, when i can tell a difference between a lossless and lossy format
[03:14] <Minataku> Analog has no sampling rate
[03:14] <Daisuke_Ido> Minataku: that's before it ever gets to us though
[03:14] <Minataku> Technically infinite
[03:14] <louis_> arthur, if you're just putting it on your ipod then don't worry about it
[03:14] <arthur_kalm> khaije1: hehe forget it, u pulled up the ipod thing :P
[03:15] <Daisuke_Ido> cd --> any lossless format is just that, lossless
[03:15] <louis_> if it's for some speciallist application, then I'm not qualified to answer
[03:15] <khaije1> arthur_kalm: oh, the ubotu query was for my information, not to call to yr attention
[03:15] <Daisuke_Ido> no loss of data
[03:15] <arthur_kalm> khaije1: oh hehe
[03:15] <Daisuke_Ido> but 99% of the time, v0 sounds just the same
[03:15] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: I didn't say there was significant loss of data
[03:15] <Minataku> Maybe one bit out of billions ;3
[03:15] <arthur_kalm> louis_: err well i have good earphones, so I don't want to hear any difference
[03:15] <Minataku> XD
[03:15] <louis_> i really doubt you will
[03:15] <louis_> as in REALLY doubt it
[03:16] <arthur_kalm> louis_: well the _only_ reason I have for converting is that I want to use kid3 and it doesn't support aac...
[03:16] <ubuntu_> hello to everyone!
[03:16] <Daisuke_Ido> arthur_kalm: you won't hear a difference
[03:16] <louis_> then i'd suggest you keep the quality as high as possible for mp3
[03:16] <Daisuke_Ido> you're converting a music collection to use a preferred TAGGING app?
[03:16] <dhuv> hello all
[03:17] <louis_> hey dhuv
[03:17] <arthur_kalm> Daisuke_Ido: even with my sennheuser pxc-250s
[03:17] <Daisuke_Ido> arthur_kalm: if you're superman, you might hear a difference.  you're not.  you won't.
[03:17] <dhuv> I am using the default power manager app that installed with kubuntu
[03:17] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Forget it, he's gonna hear a difference. He WANTS to.
[03:17] <ubuntu_> I need to install grub in my MBR sata disk. Can anyone please tell me how  to do this
[03:17] <louis_> lol. arthur. go for it ;-)
[03:17] <Daisuke_Ido> like i said, i've come across perhaps three instances EVER where i can hear any difference whatsoever
[03:17] <dhuv> it works well, but I cannot set a warning time to let me know when it will go to standby
[03:17] <Minataku> Then he's gonna come back here and bitch that you were wrong and you ruined his music collection and blah blah blah
[03:18] <dhuv> so while I am working it goes into standby unless I notice that the batter is almost out
[03:18] <louis_> haha well hopefully he can't find me
[03:18] <louis_> if so, my mma training might have a practical application
[03:18] <Minataku> arthur_kalm: Leave them in AAC
[03:18] <Daisuke_Ido> he's converting a collection to appease a tagging program
[03:18] <arthur_kalm> Daisuke_Ido: oh OK, and I want to use kid3 b/c the only app that supports changing tags in linux is amarok as afaik
[03:18] <Daisuke_Ido> that's farking retarded.
[03:18] <Daisuke_Ido> so use amarok
[03:18] <dhuv> is there anything I can do to enable that functionality or should I install a different power management application, and if so, which one do you recommend
[03:18] <Minataku> Sorry, audiophiles piss me off, they're like Mac users
[03:19] <Daisuke_Ido> if you're an audiophile you know that converting from lossy to lossy is a cardinal sin
[03:19] <louis_> Minataku, well said
[03:19] <arthur_kalm> Daisuke_Ido: I like the way that kid3 can rename the file into a specific format (one which I use, I hate the one that comes from iTunes)
[03:19] <louis_> mac users and audiophiles shit pretention
[03:19] <Minataku> Indeed
[03:19] <arthur_kalm> lol i'm not an audiophile at all
[03:19] <ubuntu_> I need to install grub in my MBR sata disk. Can anyone please tell me how  to do this
[03:19] <Minataku> arthur_kalm: You gave us the make and model of your headphones
[03:19] <Daisuke_Ido> how much did you pay for a pair of headphones?
[03:19] <louis_> haha i know. we're speaking in generalities =)
[03:19] <Minataku> Don't lie
[03:19] <Minataku> XD
[03:19] <Daisuke_Ido> you're an audiophile
[03:19] <Minataku> Sorry, I don't mean to give you a hard time
[03:20] <Minataku> I'm just thirsty and angry
[03:20] <arthur_kalm> Minataku: hehe I'm proud of my headphones, but they're not the best
[03:20] <Minataku> >.<
[03:20] <louis_> sike sike i kid i kid!
[03:20] <arthur_kalm> hehe
[03:20] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm a moderate audiophile, up to the point of preferring v0 mp3s, past that i don't care
[03:20] <Minataku> If I can hear music I'm happy
[03:20] <arthur_kalm> well does anyone know anything else I can use to rename the files using the tags into a specific format
[03:20] <louis_> haha I'm an audiophile up to the point of getting music out of my car stereo
[03:20] <arthur_kalm> I use "%a - %t - %s"
[03:20] <louis_> past taht I don't care
[03:20] <Minataku> arthur_kalm: Tagging a file doesn't change it's format
[03:20] <Minataku> It just adds metadata to the file
[03:21] <dhuv> arthur_kalm: amarok or juk should do that
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> arthur_kalm: amarok works great for renaming
[03:21] <dhuv> do you have either installed
[03:21] <arthur_kalm> ahahah
[03:21] <arthur_kalm> great :)
[03:21] <dhuv> I have not used it, but you can try kid3
[03:21] <arthur_kalm> thank you
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> dhuv: since amarok is default in kubuntu, i'd imagine yes.
[03:21] <arthur_kalm> I didn't notice that ;)
[03:21] <louis_> Can anyone help me with my modem issue?  or is there a channel i can go to?
[03:21] <arthur_kalm> thanks guys
[03:21] <arthur_kalm> hehe u saved me lots of time and trouble :D
[03:22] <Minataku> louis_: I don't think it's your modem
[03:22] <louis_> what do you think it is?
[03:22] <Minataku> But then I don't know wtf is wrong
[03:22] <louis_> haha i hear you
[03:22] <G3NESIS> Can someone help me with this stupid Resolution issue?
[03:22] <louis_> any ideas, however vague?
[03:22] <Minataku> Maybe it's your dumbass university
[03:22] <Daisuke_Ido> xrandr
[03:22] <Minataku> Call up their support barn and bitch them out
[03:22] <louis_> yeah that woulndn't surprise me
[03:22] <Daisuke_Ido> the catchall resolution answer :D
[03:22] <louis_> haha what should I say to sound smart?
[03:22] <Minataku> It's more than likely gonna be their fault
[03:22] <louis_> blah blah blah linux blah blah?
[03:22] <Minataku> louis_: Don't bother
[03:23] <Minataku> Immediately start swearing
[03:23] <Minataku> XD
[03:23] <arthur_kalm> hmm OK I don't get it... I try to change the filename schemes and it doesn't do anything...
[03:23] <louis_> lol
[03:23] <Minataku> Why sound smart when you can be an ass? :D
[03:23] <louis_> i like that. i'll have to write that down
[03:23] <mattsqz> most places wont even go any further when you mention linux
[03:23] <Minataku> Just tell them you can't access any websites but everything else works
[03:23] <louis_> well i guess i can deal with this until setpember
[03:23] <mattsqz> the call ends with "we dont support linux, i dont care if -our- server is down"
[03:23] <louis_> see that's the weird thing though
[03:23] <Minataku> Yeah, don't mention Linux right away
[03:23] <louis_> kubuntu works on their network
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> louis_: if you say linux they'll call you a geek and hang up.  if you say mac, they'll call you a pretentious heterosexually-challenged person and hang up.  just thell them you have windows and keep telling them it's their end.
[03:24] <G3NESIS> lol
[03:24] <arthur_kalm> hmm so does anyone know how to change file names on mass in amarok using the filename scheme... it doesn't seem to work :(*
[03:24] <louis_> Daisuke:  i'm sure that's true, but somehow i can't see that fixing the problem ;)
[03:24] <Minataku> Of course, if you tell them you have Windows they'll start talking really slowly and in tiny, easy to understand words
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> Minataku: that doesn't even work most of the time
[03:25] <louis_> haha "push the left button on the thingy in your hand..."
[03:25] <Minataku> And _still_ not help
[03:25] <Minataku> XD
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> arthur_kalm: select the files you want and choose "move to collection"
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> then set your preferred filename scheme in that dialog
[03:25] <Minataku> The general computing office at the Uni I go to is completely useless
[03:25] <louis_> yeah
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> same
[03:25] <Minataku> It surprises me that the people they hire can tell a monitor from a TV
[03:25] <louis_> i got busted for downloading music and they wanted me to reinstall my OS
[03:25] <arthur_kalm> Daisuke_Ido: ahhh it has to be in the collection, OK cool
[03:25] <mattsqz> amarok has been pissing me off lately...it doesnt like week and a half long playlists
[03:25] <louis_> they freaked when I had linux
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> arthur_kalm: no
[03:25] <terrestre> someone know something about monodevelop?
[03:25] <G3NESIS> OK, I've installed in Nvidia drivers and setup my monitor but I cant achieve a resolution higher than 1024x768 can someone help me please.
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> you can use the files view to get to anything anywhere
[03:26] <Minataku> terrestre: It'll give you mono
[03:26] <louis_> they were like "wtf is this?!  windows or nothing you heretic!"
[03:26] <Minataku> As in mononucleosis
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> but moving to your collection is how it renames
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> terrestre- it more or less works
[03:26] <arthur_kalm> Daisuke_Ido: oh... but I want it to keep the folder structure and such... is it possible to change it's filename without _moving_ it?
[03:26] <Minataku> G3NESIS: You have to reconfigure X to allow resolutions higher than 1024x768
[03:26] <louis_> so would their lack of support explain why my modem keeps hanging up too?
[03:27] <Minataku> louis_: I don't know
[03:27] <Minataku> You'll have to call them and complain
[03:27] <louis_> because it's error 16 which is something about them not responding to a query...
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> arthur_kalm: i don't really know
[03:27] <louis_> can do
[03:27] <terrestre> im pretty noob on programing, i want to import a visual studio code but i cant
[03:27] <Minataku> If they try to tell you that it's your fault for using Linux tell them to shut the hell up and help you
[03:27] <louis_> damn... and here i thought a modem was a modem...
[03:27] <louis_> yeah that's not a bad way to do it
[03:27] <Minataku> Or just go to your Uni's CS dept.
[03:27] <arthur_kalm> Daisuke_Ido: it's OK i'll play around with it, thank you
[03:28] <louis_> i live right down the street from them too, i could bring my machine
[03:28] <Minataku> They'll probably be able to help you
[03:28] <louis_> CS being counterstrike?
[03:28] <Minataku> ...
[03:28] <mattsqz> hahahaha
[03:28] <louis_> jk
[03:28] <Minataku> Computer Science
[03:28] <mattsqz> computer science ;)
[03:28] <Daisuke_Ido> their job isn't to pass judgement on your os, their job is to get your things working.
[03:28] <louis_> yeah i wasnt kidding...
[03:28] <louis_> but that's not a bad idea either
[03:28] <Minataku> The CS guys at my Uni know their stuff
[03:28] <louis_> where do you go?
[03:28] <Minataku> And more than just stupid Windows
[03:28] <Minataku> ODU
[03:29] <Minataku> !X11
[03:29] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:29] <Dragnslcr> Anyone know offhand if Beryl and Quake 3 is a pair that just won't work? Q3 has an annoying habit of crashing if another window tries to grab focus
[03:29] <louis_> cool cool
[03:29] <Minataku> There ya go, G3NESIS
[03:29] <Daisuke_Ido> Dragnslcr: won't work anyway
[03:29] <Daisuke_Ido> q3 uses gl, right?
[03:29] <Dragnslcr> Yeah
[03:29] <louis_> oh. totally unrelated question:  can i get beryl to run on an ATI x300?
[03:29] <louis_> 128 mb?
[03:29] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, i wouldn't attempt beryl and q3 at the same time
[03:29] <mattsqz> dragnslcr: how is beryl configured..aiglx? xgl?
[03:29] <Minataku> You can barely get LINUX to run on an ATI _anything_
[03:30] <mattsqz> nvidia direct?
[03:30] <Dragnslcr> It works fine until something else tries to grab focus from Q3
[03:30] <louis_> aaah i just want the cool squiggly windows and the cube and all that good stuff
[03:30] <louis_> how should it be configured?
[03:30] <G3NESIS> Thanks minataku
[03:30] <Minataku> G3NESIS: No prob
[03:30] <Daisuke_Ido> start by removing the ati and sacrificing it in a ritual involving goats' blood
[03:30] <Minataku> Now I'm too damn thirsty to continue
[03:30] <mattsqz> dragnsclr: try messing in beryl's advanced menu, under rendering and rendering platform
[03:31] <louis_> lol nvidia fan?
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[03:31] <Dragnslcr> mattsqz- I think XGL, but I'm not certain
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> i just want something that will work in linux
[03:31] <mattsqz> louis: ati is years behind with linux support
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> and ati isn't that something.
[03:31] <helene> Greets, everyone... Can someone tell me how to find the file for my modem (in /dev)? It's coming up in lspci, but there's no /dev/modem.
[03:31] <louis_> gotcha. does nvidia generally work?
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> honestly i'd prefer intel over nvidia
[03:31] <louis_> okay
[03:31] <helene> Daisuke_Ido: Same here
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> but using an amd processor, that's not a choice
[03:32] <helene> Too bad you can't buy Intel cards.
[03:32] <louis_> F*ck it. maybe I should just buy an external modem and a new card
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> exactly
[03:32] <Dragnslcr> mattsqz- know offhand which section that's under?
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> !beryl > louis_
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> there is a way to install beryl
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> not pretty, but i know it works alright
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> now i'm going to watch tv
[03:33] <helene> How can I find the file in /dev that points to my modem?
[03:33] <Dragnslcr> mattsqz- It's set to automatic
[03:34] <Dragnslcr> mattsqz- options are Nvidia, AIGLX, and XGL
[03:34] <mattsqz> mine is set to force nvidia under rendering platform and xgl under rendering
[03:34] <mattsqz> i havent tried quake3 but other gl apps work for me
[03:35] <louis_> okay. you guys are going to make fun of me, but fglrx is the proprietary ati driver right?
[03:35] <helene> louis_: That's correct
[03:35] <Dragnslcr> mattsqz- thanks, I'll give it a shot
[03:35] <louis_> sweet. and that's really got nothing to do with beryl
[03:35] <Zabulus> can someone suggest a p2p filesharing prgram to me?
[03:35] <Minataku> Zabulus: Bittorrent
[03:35] <mattsqz> zabulus: bittorrent
[03:36] <osiris> frostwire
[03:36] <Dragnslcr> KTorrent is pretty good
[03:36] <Minataku> BitTornado FTW
[03:36] <osiris> and ktorrent is awesome
[03:36] <louis_> so, if I have fglrx running for my ati card (that works. i've done it before) can i get the cool beryl themes with a 128mb card?
[03:36] <louis_> or is it still a tossup?
[03:36] <osiris> bandwidth scheduling, ip blocks, remote management
[03:36] <helene> louis_: There usually aren't too many L337 assholes in here. No need to worry about being ridiculed. :-)
[03:36] <louis_> helene:  good to know!  I guess linux-heads aren't like gamers
[03:36] <Zabulus> okay, so 2 votes for bittorrent, 1 for frostwire, 2 for ktorrent, and 1 for bittornado
[03:36] <louis_> and that's a good thing!
[03:36] <helene> louis_: Possibly. You might have to jump through a few flaming hoops to get it though.
[03:37] <louis_> how small and flaming are the hoops?
[03:37] <mattsqz> louis, it depends more on your gpu's generational features than memory size
[03:37] <louis_> oh gotcha
[03:37] <helene> Zabulus: +1 for Frostwire from me
[03:37] <louis_> do you know if a radeon x300 works off of the top of your head?
[03:37] <osiris> Zabulus, bittorrent, ktorrent, and bittornado are all torrent apps
[03:37] <Zabulus> just tying it up some more
[03:37] <Zabulus> lol
[03:37] <mattsqz> not off the top of my head but it might be too new
[03:37] <mattsqz> ill look it up
[03:37] <louis_> thanks!
[03:38] <louis_> too new... that's one you never hear
[03:38] <Zabulus> the last filesharing program i used was limewire, anything similar to that design?
[03:38] <helene> Can someone please tell me how to find the /dev file for my modem, which is being listed by lspci and lshw?
[03:38] <osiris> Zabulus, frostwire is built on limewire
[03:38] <Zabulus> ill have to try that one then, thanks
[03:38] <osiris> should be in the apt repos
[03:38] <helene> The only thing I don't like about Frostwire is it's in Java, so no system-wide theme integration
[03:39] <arthur_kalm> hmm does anyone know a program that can tag aac files? it seems amarok can't do it...
[03:39] <helene> Last I checked Frostwire wasn't in the official repositories
[03:39] <helene> arthur_kalm: gtkpod maybe?
[03:39] <louis_> you can get frostwire via automatix
[03:39] <helene> arthur_kalm: err gtkpod-aac
[03:39] <arthur_kalm> helene: hmm let me try
[03:39] <mattsqz> louis: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=700&num=1
[03:40] <crdlb> !automatix | louis_
[03:40] <ubotu> louis_: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:40] <louis_> mattsqz:  http doesnt work
[03:40] <mattsqz> oooh right ;)
[03:40] <mattsqz> looks like an x300 can be made to work
[03:40] <louis_> haha oh the joys of dialup!
[03:40] <louis_> is it hard to do?
[03:41] <helene> crdlb: You wouldn't happen to know how to find the file that refers to a device in lspci would you?
[03:41] <mattsqz> from what im reading the drivers had to be reverse engineered
[03:41] <crdlb> helene, I don't understand
[03:42] <helene> crdlb: Like how you have /dev/hda1 which is your hard drive, I'm having trouble finding that file for my modem
[03:42] <mattsqz> louis are you using feisty?
[03:42] <louis_> yes
[03:42] <helene> crdlb: Trying to set up KPPP
[03:42] <crdlb> helene, well it's probably /dev/ppp0 I think
[03:43] <helene> crdlb: Hmm... There's just /dev/ppp - should I try that?
[03:43] <crdlb> sounds good
[03:43] <mattsqz> doesnt look too bad louis
[03:43] <mattsqz> shouldnt be very hard if you have a decent pipe to network..dialup would make me wanna break stuff apt-getting everything though
[03:44] <louis_> haha yeah it'll have to wait
[03:44] <Minataku> If you even could get it through in the first place >.<
[03:44] <louis_> are all the directions on that link you sent me?
[03:44] <louis_> bc if so, I'll just check that out once i have network access again
[03:44] <mattsqz> http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-linux-with-ati.html
[03:45] <mattsqz> use that one, its pretty straightforward
[03:45] <mattsqz> do everything up until it tells you to make a shell script...skip that nonsense
[03:45] <louis_> skip the shell script?
[03:45] <mattsqz> yes
[03:45] <mattsqz> the current version of beryl installs in ubuntu the menu stuff
[03:45] <louis_> do you have to edit config files and such? i tried it a few time and it always crapped out and fell back to metacity or KDE or whatever
[03:46] <mattsqz> you just have to change one item in xorg.conf
[03:46] <louis_> okay. that's just setting the default desktop right?
[03:46] <helene> aagggggghhhhhh
[03:47] <mattsqz> its changing the driver from a 2d driver to the glx driver
[03:47] <helene> I've been trying for like, 5 hours to get this damn modem working
[03:48] <mattsqz> damn, second modem user tonight..
[03:48] <helene> that might have been me. i was on under contrast earlier
[03:48] <helene> and/or mike
[03:48] <helene> (working on my grandmother's laptop)
[03:48] <louis_> okay. sounds doable
[03:48] <louis_> thanks matt!
[03:48] <louis_> and all you others
[03:49] <TyphoidHippo> Hi everyone - I'll get straight to the point - I have a server here, and I want it to act as a caching name server for all the machines in my LAN.  I have googled the crap out of this, and I tried using BIND with no success, and discovered that dnsmasq is more like what I should use, because it will use the hosts file on the server (where I can define my LAN machines) and also cache DNS queries for the rest of t
[03:49] <arthur_kalm> hmm OK so it seems amarok cannot properly read the aac tag's genre :(
[03:49] <sebastianhooker_> arthur_kalm: amarok isn't too reliable
[03:49] <namol> hey there!
[03:50] <sebastianhooker_> hey namol
[03:50] <arthur_kalm> sebastianhooker_: well it's my favourite player... it's the best one i know
[03:50] <sebastianhooker_> arthur_kalm: whatever it takes
[03:50] <helene> arthur_kalm: same here
[03:51] <arthur_kalm> hmm but I need something that will properly read these aac tags :S
[03:51] <helene> arthur_kalm: Did you try searching adept for "amarok aac"?
[03:51] <sebastianhooker_> i'll be back when people are alive and talkative
[03:51] <TyphoidHippo> I tried #dns first, but I've been in there for a while, and there's nobody alive in there...
[03:51] <helene> arthur_kalm: or even just "aac"
[03:51] <arthur_kalm> helene: yes I have, about the only thing that came up was gtkpod-aac
[03:52] <arthur_kalm> i've tried install all the other things, the libs, gstreamer0.8-faac, faac, etc
[03:52] <arthur_kalm> helene: I've just started using iTunes music store, it's turning out to be a pain in the ass :(
[03:52] <sebastianhooker_> by god! i've got it! iTunes!
[03:52] <helene> sorry, don't know what else to suggest
[03:52] <TyphoidHippo> alrighty, I'll try somewhere else - have a good day everyone
[03:52] <helene> arthur_kalm: yeah, that's what i've heard. part of the reason i'd never buy an ipod. :-)
[03:53] <Minataku> TyphoidHippo: Heh
[03:53] <helene> :-D
[03:53] <Minataku> That might be a bit "high-class" for this channel
[03:53] <Minataku> XD
[03:53] <arthur_kalm> helene: doesn't have much to do with having an iPod, just want a legal way to download music ;)... and since allofmp3 got closed down i'm out of luck
[03:53] <Minataku> Unfortunately, I haven't done much networking
[03:54] <namol> what's the problem?
[03:54] <TyphoidHippo> Minataku:lol, I figured it might be, but worth a shot anyway...  I'm running out of hair to pull out here!
[03:54] <arthur_kalm> helene: but thanks for the help... i'll have to try and figure this out later then...
[03:54] <helene> arthur_kalm: have you tried iTunes in WINE?
[03:54] <Minataku> TyphoidHippo: Even the hair... :O
[03:54] <namol> TyphoidHippo, what's the problem?
[03:54] <arthur_kalm> helene: looked it up and it says it doesn't work at all
[03:55] <TyphoidHippo> Well, I'm trying to get a caching name server going, but having problems.
[03:55] <namol> using what dns server? bind?
[03:55] <Minataku> Pulling out THAT hair had to hurt
[03:55] <Minataku> Sorry. Bored. >.<
[03:55] <TyphoidHippo> I wrote a long description of it up a ways, can I PM it o you?
[03:55] <namol> sure
[03:55] <TyphoidHippo> it might have been before you came in here
[03:55] <namol> yea i didn't see the problem so go ahead and pm it
[03:56] <helene> C'mon, this should be easy for some expert in here. How do I find the file in /dev that points to my modem?
[03:57] <Minataku> helene: Have you tried /dev/modem ?
[03:57] <helene> Minataku: Yep. Thanks anyway though
[03:57] <namol> helene, what's your cat /proc/devices say?
[03:59] <helene> namol: Umm... Not sure what I should be looking for in that?
[03:59] <namol> well that lists all connected devices to the machine
[03:59] <Minataku> helene: Heh
[04:00] <namol> general rule of thumb is that most modems are tty or ttys
[04:00] <Minataku> I don't have a modem so I can't really help, sorry >.<
[04:00] <Minataku> Yeah, usually they're a ttyS
[04:00] <namol> that's if its a serial modem
[04:00] <namol> what type of modem is it?
[04:00] <namol> it kinda depends
[04:00] <TyphoidHippo> I also tried #ubuntu for something a while back....but man, it's crazy in there.  Did you get that PM namol?  I don't mean to be impatient or anything...sorry if I come off that way.  I just don't know if this gaim is working with IRC correctly.
[04:01] <namol> hang on, let me register this nick lol
[04:02] <louis_> hey are there any external modem vendors that are known to be linux compatible (and not too expensive?)
[04:02] <helene> I did everything imaginable to get it working under Feisty, then found out from launchpad and a couple forum posts that it doesn't work in Feisty, but it "does" in Edgy. Installed Edgy, only to find out sl-modem-daemon and sl-modem-source (the packages I had to install for the modem to come up at all) aren't available in Edgy's repo's
[04:02] <namol> helene, what type of modem is it?
[04:03] <helene> namol: Modem: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 02)
[04:03] <louis_> any chance it might be one of those incompatible winmodems?
[04:04] <TyphoidHippo> Did you get it that time, namol?  Thanks for your attention, too.  :-D
[04:05] <helene> namol: Well, I just tried making a link to /dev/ttyS0 and named it modem, then clicked "Query modem" in KPPP, and it looks like that crashed KPPP (sorry, can't send PM's)
[04:06] <helene> louis_: Already researched that, and I don't think it is
[04:06] <helene> louis_: Thanks though
[04:06] <louis_> helene:  np i realize i'm hopping in a bit late
[04:06] <louis_> and that i know virtually nothing
[04:06] <TyphoidHippo> This is weird, I guess gaim doesn' do this correctly.  Are you even getting the small, two word, PMs I've sent?
[04:06] <helene> lol
[04:07] <namol> i am getting the small ones
[04:07] <TyphoidHippo> ok, I'll break it up then
[04:08] <namol> did you register with nickserv? you have to do pms
[04:08] <Minataku> Ot you can turn off that dumbass option to block them
[04:08] <Minataku> The spam problem?
[04:08] <namol> either or
[04:09] <namol> yea
[04:09] <Minataku> Completely nonexistant
[04:09] <Minataku> I turned off that stupid option, like, three months ago
[04:09] <Minataku> No spam since
[04:10] <TyphoidHippo> How do I register with nickserv?  Is there a command for that?
[04:10] <TyphoidHippo> (slash)register maybe?
[04:10] <namol>  /nickserver register password here
[04:11] <namol> nickserv
[04:11] <namol> not nickserver
[04:11] <crdlb> !register | TyphoidHippo
[04:11] <ubotu> TyphoidHippo: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:12] <TyphoidHippo> ok, it's registered
[04:13] <Dragnslcr> mattsqz- well, it didn't work
[04:13] <TyphoidHippo> this is funny....  I come here to get help with DNS, and end up spending all this time debugging my PMs.
[04:13] <namol> lol
[04:14] <louis_> hey could my http issues be DNS related?
[04:14] <louis_> i remember somebody breifly mentioned that
[04:14] <Dragnslcr> So is there anyway to get bluetooth devices to connect when the system boots instead of when I login? It's tough to type a password without a keyboard
[04:15] <namol> can you ping by name, ie google.com?
[04:15] <louis_> you talking to me namol?
[04:15] <louis_> and if so, how would i do that?
[04:16] <namol> louis_, yes
[04:16] <namol> try this
[04:16] <namol> in your web brwoser go to 66.233.187.99
[04:16] <namol> that's one of google's ip addresses
[04:16] <namol> if it comes up
[04:17] <namol> then you have a dns problem
[04:17] <louis_> i typed it in the address bar
[04:17] <louis_> and it didnt work
[04:17] <louis_> Could not connect to host http://66.233.187.99
[04:17] <louis_> so it's not a dns problem or it is?
[04:18] <louis_> its not, right?
[04:18] <namol> well how did you connect to this server?
[04:18] <douglas> boa noite a todos
[04:18] <louis_> haha hell if i know.  i just started konversation and it worked
[04:18] <louis_> boa noite
[04:18] <louis_> kopete works too
[04:18] <louis_> adept doesn't and neither does konquerer's http
[04:20] <RawSewage> what HTTP issues
[04:20] <RawSewage> do you get lag before loading a page
[04:20] <mattsqz> no
[04:20] <louis_> no it just doesn't load
[04:20] <louis_> lol
[04:20] <RawSewage> oh
[04:20] <mattsqz> he cant get anything through port 80 or 8080 so far
[04:20] <louis_> yeah... weird
[04:20] <mattsqz> thats all we've checked
[04:20] <namol> do you have a proxy running?
[04:20] <louis_> what if i defined other ports for http?
[04:20] <louis_> no. no proxy
[04:20] <namol> or webbrowser pointing at a proxy?
[04:20] <louis_> and that's the way it should be
[04:21] <namol> what about port 443?
[04:21] <louis_> my web browser is set for direct connection, if that's what your asking. i'm not sure
[04:21] <louis_> how do i check? prot 443?
[04:21] <mattsqz> im pretty sure his browser is at default settings
[04:21] <louis_> yeah they should be
[04:21] <louis_> i messed with them, but set them back to default
[04:22] <namol> are you on dial-up or a lan?
[04:22] <louis_> dial-up
[04:22] <mattsqz> https://www.grc.com/port_443.htm
[04:22] <mattsqz> try that
[04:22] <louis_> i'm using the linuxant drivers if that helps
[04:23] <mattsqz> oops
[04:23] <mattsqz> lol
[04:23] <namol> well we know that you can communicate with the internet, or else you wouldn't be here
[04:23] <louis_> doesnt work
[04:23] <mattsqz> wrong tab
[04:24] <louis_> namol, that's what's so annoying about this!  it's so close, yet so far! =)
[04:24] <namol> oo i know!
[04:24] <namol> ok, bring up a console window
[04:24] <namol> and then telnet google.com 80
[04:24] <mattsqz> http://www.ges.gla.ac.uk:443/
[04:24] <louis_> do i just type telnet google.com 80?
[04:24] <namol> yup
[04:25] <louis_> louis@louis-desktop:~$ telnet google.com 80
[04:25] <louis_> Trying 64.233.187.99...
[04:25] <louis_> Connected to google.com.
[04:25] <louis_> Escape character is '^] '.
[04:25] <louis_> that seems to work...
[04:26] <namol> ok that's good then
[04:26] <namol> so that tells us its your browser
[04:26] <louis_> okay
[04:26] <namol> while in the console, type ping google.com
[04:26] <namol> just to confirm that
[04:26] <namol> after a few hit crtl+c to stop it
[04:27] <louis_> namol, that seems to be working
[04:27] <louis_> -- google.com ping statistics ---
[04:27] <louis_> 17 packets transmitted, 16 received, 5% packet loss, time 15998ms
[04:27] <louis_> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 247.987/302.004/411.997/53.380 ms
[04:27] <namol> type sudo apt-get install lynx
[04:27] <namol> that's a text based web browser
[04:27] <louis_> okay. word of warning:  i dont think adept is working, but i dunno if that has anything to do with atp get
[04:28] <louis_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[04:28] <louis_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[04:28] <louis_> sudo?
[04:28] <namol> yes, sudo
[04:28] <louis_> eading package lists... Done
[04:28] <louis_> Building dependency tree
[04:28] <louis_> Reading state information... Done
[04:28] <louis_> Package lynx is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:28] <louis_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:28] <louis_> is only available from another source
[04:28] <louis_> E: Package lynx has no installation candidate
[04:29] <louis_> i hope i don't get flood-killed lol
[04:29] <louis_> PS- namol you're a godsend!
[04:29] <namol> what package is that thing in
[04:29] <namol> aptitude search lynx
[04:29] <louis_> how do i do that?
[04:30] <namol> just type aptitude search lynx
[04:30] <namol> :)
[04:30] <louis_> lol =)
[04:31] <louis_> doesnt do anything. goes right back to louis@louis-desktop
[04:31] <namol> doesn't return any results?
[04:31] <louis_> no
[04:31] <louis_> none
[04:31] <namol> try sudo aptitude search lynx
[04:31] <namol> if that doesn't work, try apt-get search lynx
[04:32] <namol> wait, apt-get can't search lol
[04:32] <namol> ignore that last one
[04:32] <louis_> haha okay
[04:32] <louis_> yeah still nothing
[04:32] <mattsqz> ..
[04:32] <mattsqz> its showing up in adept for me
[04:32] <namol> yea i know
[04:32] <namol> which is weird
[04:33] <namol> lynx shows up just find for me
[04:33] <louis_> do i need to enable repositories?
[04:33] <namol> what's your sources say?
[04:33] <namol> yes, yes you do
[04:33] <illriginal> Can someone help me install this file: cedega_6.0-1.i386.p2p.tgz
[04:33] <namol> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:33] <gafanhoto> hello
[04:33] <gafanhoto> Boa noite do Rio de Janeiro, Brasil
[04:33] <TyphoidHippo> Awesome!  After I removed bind9, and restarted dnsmasq, it works like a champ...almost too easy, like magic.  I'm going to go bang my head into a wall now for being a tard.  Have a great day, guys!  Thanks again, namol, and I bookmarked that BIND tut, just in case I wanna get fancy with bind some day.
[04:34] <louis_> namol, did that, got a lot of text
[04:34] <louis_> i don't want to get flood killed, so i wont send it all
[04:34] <namol> excellent
[04:34] <mattsqz> just do this
[04:34] <illriginal> Can someone help me install this file: cedega_6.0-1.i386.p2p.tgz
[04:34] <mattsqz> 'apt-get update"
[04:34] <namol> apt-get update
[04:35] <namol> might need sudo apt-get update
[04:35] <mattsqz> most likely
[04:35] <Dragnslcr> illriginal- well, tar -zxvf will extract it
[04:35] <louis_> kowabunga!  it's updating
[04:35] <namol> illriginal, tar -zxvf cedega_6.0-1.i386.p2p.tgz
[04:35] <Dragnslcr> illriginal- after that, you'd probably want to follow the readme file if there is one
[04:35] <TyphoidHippo> And it works with whatever you define in the servers hosts file, so I am, of course going to reroute myspace.com to something repulsive just to see the reaction on my woman's face....
[04:36] <louis_> namol, i'll check in in 10 minutes or so when it's done updating
[04:36] <illriginal> nope there's no readme file in the tar file
[04:36] <namol> TyphoidHippo, make it go to kittenwar.net
[04:36] <Dragnslcr> illriginal- Cedega's site should have instructions
[04:36] <mattsqz> better yet
[04:37] <louis_> possibly 20 minutes or so
[04:37] <mattsqz> make myspace.com point to one of the many fake myspace login servers
[04:37] <Dragnslcr> illriginal- without knowing if it's source that you're supposed to compile or something else, all we can really do is guess
[04:37] <illriginal> hopefully :)
[04:37] <namol> make that kittenwar.com lol
[04:37] <mattsqz> instant spam flood
[04:37] <mattsqz> theyll even have her password to spam others with
[04:37] <mattsqz> her friends list will shrink
[04:37] <TyphoidHippo> yea, I looked at kittenwar.net, and I was like:  man this guy has no sense of humor
[04:37] <mattsqz> hooray success!
[04:37] <namol> lol
[04:38] <namol> TyphoidHippo, the fun thing would be to make all the traffic get routed to squid and then use squid to perform manipulations to the pages
[04:39] <TyphoidHippo> hahaha, I like kittenwar.com - but I was thinking of something like that one site that caused all the uproar...something with a goat.  She would probably throw her laptop out the window screaming.
[04:39] <mattsqz> goatse.cx
[04:39] <namol> http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html
[04:40] <namol> do that with the squid
[04:40] <mattsqz> though i believe its been moved from that domain
[04:40] <TyphoidHippo> YES!!!!  That's the one, namol!
[04:40] <TyphoidHippo> hahahah
[04:40] <TyphoidHippo> it's done
[04:40] <TyphoidHippo> Now to just wait
[04:40] <namol> are you married?
[04:40] <TyphoidHippo> she's probably on it right now
[04:40] <TyphoidHippo> yea
[04:40] <namol> not for long :P
[04:40] <TyphoidHippo> lol!!
[04:41] <TyphoidHippo> She's cool....for the most part.  After she freaks out, she'll think it's funny.  Hopefully....
[04:41] <namol> just don't admit you did it until she's onto you
[04:41] <TyphoidHippo> if not, I think it's funny so who cares, right?
[04:41] <TyphoidHippo> lol
[04:42] <TyphoidHippo> yea, I'll tell her she must have gotten hacked
[04:42] <namol> lol
[04:42] <namol> damn those windows machines
[04:42] <namol> man the cavs are getting stomped
[04:43] <TyphoidHippo> hehe, she's using debian, but she doesn't know any better, anyway.  I'll tell her she got the first big linux virus, and I am so mad at her for it.
[04:44] <namol> i forgot what i was wanting to do
[04:44] <louis_> hey while i'm waiting for this update, how do you log into KDE as an admin?
[04:44] <louis_> lol that's like the greatest linux mystery for me
[04:45] <namol> oh yea, i can't remember the name of the stat program that runs on the desktop that shows cpuinfo/bandwith etc
[04:45] <louis_> namol, you were wanting to hold my hand and make my internet work ;-)
[04:45] <namol> on kubuntu, unless you've defined the root password, can't
[04:45] <namol> you can run programs as root
[04:45] <illriginal> I ran tar -zxvf cedega_6.0-1.i386.p2p.tgz but no install...
[04:46] <louis_> namol, ksysguard?
[04:46] <mattsqz> thats easy enough to do though
[04:46] <mattsqz> sudo passwd ;)
[04:46] <louis_> how do you define the root password?
[04:46] <namol> sudo passwd root :P
[04:46] <namol> at console
[04:47] <namol> illriginal, i bet it made a new folder though right?!
[04:47] <Minataku> louis_: DO NOT
[04:47] <illriginal> yeah after the extraction, then i had to extract another file.
[04:47] <Minataku> Run normal tasks as root
[04:47] <namol> Minataku, i totally agree
[04:47] <louis_> oh uh oh. i just did
[04:47] <namol> if you need to run a gui program as root for something, it will ask you for your password
[04:48] <illriginal> namol, now im here: /home/illriginal/Desktop/cedega-engine-6.0_[PtitGNU] /cedega-engine-6.0-local-update.i386.cpkg_FILES/cedega_6.0-1.i386.p2p.tgz_FILES
[04:48] <louis_> why is that bad?
[04:48] <ladyofthenight^^> Anybody know why the sound volume icon doesn't show up in the toolbar tray when I login?
[04:48] <illriginal> im tryin to go to their site and find instructions... but seems like they don't have one.
[04:48] <illriginal> at least not from what i can see ><
[04:48] <louis_> i just want to know so that i can get write permissions on some files in the etc folder
[04:48] <namol> why do you want to write to stuff in the etc?
[04:48] <louis_> is it bad that i defined a new UNIX password though?
[04:49] <namol> no
[04:49] <Minataku> louis_: Yes and no in that order
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> illriginal, you didn't need to unpack the cpkg, is there a deb file in the main dir?
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> illriginal, ok, nm, you need to download the cedega-small pkg for debian
[04:50] <louis_> okay. so as a general rule, i should stick to sudo if i need admin rights?
[04:50] <namol> yup
[04:51] <illriginal> hitmanwilly what are you talkin about? what small pakage?
[04:51] <illriginal> i have to download more files in order to get cedega to work?
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> on the cedega site there should be the option to download a pkg called cedega-small-<something>
[04:51] <illriginal> but I already have it...
[04:52] <illriginal> is that an additional file?
[04:52] <uzip> hi
[04:52] <louis_> namol, what do i need to do after the apt-get update is done?  get lynx right?
[04:52] <namol> yup
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> illriginal, ok, what file did you download? originally?
[04:53] <illriginal> cedega-engine-6.0-local-update.i386.cpkg
[04:53] <louis_> I ask bc the apt-get update is gonna take a while...
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> illriginal, ok, you need the cedega-small version...that's what installs the actual app
[04:53] <illriginal> but they only have a demo on their site...
[04:53] <illriginal> lol
[04:53] <billyd> Hello :-)
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> illriginal, the cedega-engine pkg is used by cedega itself
[04:54] <illriginal> ah ok.
[04:54] <namol> louis_, it shouldn't lynx isn't that big
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> illriginal, the engine is where all the proprietary stuff is at...
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> illriginal, is there a #cedega channel? they may be more help...
[04:55] <illriginal> there's no small pkg file
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> illriginal, it should be in a deb format
[04:56] <illriginal> yes, im lookin
[04:56] <illriginal> in the download area of their site
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> illriginal, ok, is this the actual transgaming.com site?
[04:57] <FroggyTheGreat> Hey all. I'm trying to get an Epson RX580 to work under Kubuntu FF.  I can get the drivers to show up in Gimp, but not the KDE print manager.  Any thoughts?
[04:57] <illriginal> yes,,,'
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> ok, ill give you a link...
[04:57] <FroggyTheGreat> I'm trying to use pipslite-install to make a .ppd file, but it's not detecting the printer.
[04:58] <TyphoidHippo> Hey, I've got another...more general question, since I see you guys are talking gaming now.  I've noticed on some games, like HL2, and STALKER, and a few others, that the directory structure they used....looks pretty linuxish.  Are games like that usually easier to get running in linux (ignoring the whole issue of steam for HL2, at least)?
[04:58] <Minataku> Heh
[04:58] <FroggyTheGreat> Any printer gurus online tonight?
[04:58] <namol> i just use wine to install anything
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> illriginal, http://downloads.cedega.com/files/cedega-small_6.0_all.deb
[04:59] <Minataku> They may be Windows games but we all know who has the better EVERYTHING
[04:59] <TyphoidHippo> It looks like they developed the games in linux, and I'm sure some, or a lot of them do, anyway.
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> illriginal, that should link you to the download file
[05:00] <namol> i'd help if i knew what that epson was and what a ppd is
[05:00] <namol> lol
[05:00] <illriginal> and this is the file i need in order to install my cedega which I already have and extracted?
[05:00] <namol> what type of printer is that epson? network/usb/parallel/serial?
[05:00] <FroggyTheGreat> It's a USB
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> illriginal, the file you downloaded was the engine...it'll need the original (unextracted) file to install
[05:01] <darkrift> Q
[05:01] <illriginal> lol hold on, im gonna find another place to download this file
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> illriginal, once you get the deb just use dpkg to install it
[05:01] <darkrift> why do my tray apps sometimes not make it to teh tray?
[05:01] <darkrift> they show up as a normal app with a titlebar button
[05:02] <TyphoidHippo> namol:  What game(s) would you recommend someone try out first (I have practically every decent game ever made for Windows...but I don't have Windows anymore, lol) to learn to use Wine?  I'm sure there are some that are very easy to get working...
[05:02] <FroggyTheGreat> My base problem is that it doesn't show up in the printer list in the Add Printer screen under KDE, but an ancillary problem is that pipslite-install can't find the actual printer, even though it's connected and turned on.
[05:02] <namol> all programs are easy to use with wine
[05:02] <TyphoidHippo> oh...well....ok then
[05:02] <namol> just wine installfile.exe
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> namol, assuming they work :P
[05:03] <TyphoidHippo> heh.  I didn't realize it was that simple.
[05:03] <namol> hitmanWilly, i haven't had a problem with one not working yet
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> namol, ? ive had nothing but problems getting stuff to work...
[05:03] <namol> what games?
[05:04] <FroggyTheGreat> Any thoughts on how to get a USB scanner/printer to be recognized by pipslite-install?
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> namol, well, guild wars for one...and copying over dlls is not an option for me :)
[05:04] <namol> FroggyTheGreat, nope sorry, i would suggest checking to see if the device can be seen on the usb port
[05:04] <mattsqz> hey..wine works that well nowadays?
[05:04] <namol> yea, the new wine does
[05:04] <mattsqz> i havent touched it since...1999
[05:04] <namol> i just installed the WoW cds
[05:05] <FroggyTheGreat> It can, and I can stick a CF card in the printer and it shows up on my desktop.
[05:05] <namol> i'm not familiar as to what pipslite does
[05:05] <namol> what dlls are needed by guildwars?
[05:05] <mattsqz> damned lightning
[05:05] <mattsqz> it is threatening me
[05:05] <Minataku> I'm a console gamer
[05:05] <FroggyTheGreat> Pipslite should just create a .ppd file for the printer so I can install it.  Any ideas how to get the printer seen by KDE otherwise?
[05:05] <namol> all cedega does is customize wine basically with newer drivers etc
[05:06] <namol> what's a ppd file lol
[05:06] <TyphoidHippo> I have it installed here, and I remember one time right clicking on a windows exe in nautilus and seeing "open with wine" but it didn't do anything...and I have been using fluxbox and pcmanfm since...a long time now.  I'll check it out again though.
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> namol, not sure, had to use cedega to get it running...wouldn't even start up under wine...even after tweaking around settings for a couple hours :P
[05:06] <namol> i always run wine from the console
[05:06] <TyphoidHippo> yea
[05:06] <hgarcia> has anyone got wow to work via linux?
[05:06] <namol> hitmanWilly, what version of wine?
[05:06] <namol> hgarcia,  i did
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> namol, hold on...
[05:07] <namol> with the latest install of wine
[05:07] <hgarcia> how did you do that?
[05:07] <TyphoidHippo> I'll do that...just saying that was the only time I ever tried it, and it didn't work, so I just took the easy road of saying "Well, this thing sucks, oh well...."
[05:07] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone else know how to get the KDE print system to see printer drivers that are installed and visible through Gimpprint, but not the KDE system itself?
[05:07] <namol> hgarcia, mount the WoW install discs, type wine /mnt/cdrom/wowinstall.exe
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> namol, 0.9.38...im assuming that's the newest one...
[05:08] <Zeelot3k> hey guys I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then I closed the window and now it tells me it is locked when I try to run it again, how can I fix this?
[05:08] <Zeelot3k> I accidentally closed it while it was running the setup
[05:09] <namol> locate *.lock
[05:09] <Minataku> !dpkgfix
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpkgfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <Minataku> !adeptfix
[05:09] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> namol, i did build it from the source myself tho :P
[05:09] <Minataku> There
[05:09] <namol> there ya go
[05:09] <Zeelot3k> thanks
[05:09] <Minataku> np
[05:09] <namol> hitmanWilly,  yea, just add this to your sources.list for the latest wine
[05:10] <Zeelot3k> still locked >_<
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> namol, its ok, i already got that one...prefer building anyway...
[05:10] <Minataku> Zeelot3k: LIES
[05:10] <namol> lol
[05:10] <namol> # deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[05:10] <Zeelot3k> no lies!!
[05:11] <namol> # deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> namol, and besides, it won't work on my gentoo box...:P
[05:11] <namol> sans the #
[05:11] <namol> gentoo yet you're in #kubuntu :P
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> namol, i use both
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> gentoo on the desk and kubuntu on the lappy
[05:12] <Minataku> I use Gentoo as well
[05:12] <Minataku> No *buntu at all, either
[05:12] <Zeelot3k> will it unlock when I reboot atleast? I guess I can wait
[05:12] <namol> Zeelot3k, no, it makes a lock file
[05:13] <Minataku> Zeelot3k: It should have unlocked with that command
[05:13] <Zeelot3k> hmmph wtf
[05:13] <Zeelot3k> it didnt
[05:13] <Minataku> Did you type it wrong?
[05:13] <hgarcia> is that it namol? mount the cd and run the install?
[05:13] <Zeelot3k> copy pasted
[05:13] <namol> hgarcia, yup
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> Zeelot3k, yes, the lockfile is on a tempfs IIRC
[05:13] <TyphoidHippo> namol, I don't use kubuntu, either, but this is the only helpful room I could find
[05:13] <namol> did you put the double >> thing?
[05:13] <Minataku> namol beat me to it
[05:13] <Zeelot3k> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[05:14] <Minataku> Zeelot3k: You have a running instance
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> yeah, var is tempfs, gets purged on reboot
[05:14] <Minataku> Find it and kill it
[05:14] <hgarcia> thanks
[05:14] <FroggyTheGreat> Does anyone know how I can find or create a driver file for an Epson RX580?
[05:14] <louis_> namol, how much longer are you going to be on IRC?
[05:14] <Zeelot3k> is there a gui thingy like in windows? =P
[05:14] <Minataku> FroggyTheGreat: Find? Google.
[05:14] <namol> till the cavs lose
[05:14] <Zeelot3k> for processes
[05:14] <Minataku> Zeelot3k: I think there's a process manager, yeah
[05:14] <TyphoidHippo> lol
[05:14] <namol> which is about 30 mins or so
[05:14] <Minataku> Forget what it's called
[05:15] <Zeelot3k> =(
[05:15] <namol> ps
[05:15] <Minataku> I don't use KDE >.<
[05:15] <TyphoidHippo> gnome-system-monitor
[05:15] <Minataku> namol: GUI
[05:15] <Zeelot3k> lol
[05:15] <namol> oh
[05:15] <Minataku> TyphoidHippo: Kubuntu
[05:15] <namol> lol
[05:15] <TyphoidHippo> oh, wait kde
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> ctrl-esc i want to say...
[05:15] <TyphoidHippo> lol
[05:15] <TyphoidHippo> just install that anyway
[05:15] <TyphoidHippo> it's great
[05:15] <TyphoidHippo> lol
[05:15] <namol> i prefer console for things because i'm ass backwards
[05:16] <TyphoidHippo> top?
[05:16] <louis_> haha okay. my apt-get update should be done in 15 min or so, so I'll be able to exploit you for a bit longer
[05:16] <louis_> =)
[05:16] <namol> that and i use ssh for all admin type of stuff
[05:16] <Minataku> namol: No, you prefer the console for things because you know what you're doing
[05:16] <namol> Minataku, i prefer ass backwards
[05:16] <Minataku> And you know that the CLI is 50000x more powerful than the GUI
[05:16] <TyphoidHippo> ssh is freakin awesome for controlling your servers
[05:16] <TyphoidHippo> with x forwarding, at that
[05:16] <namol> no need for x
[05:17] <mattsqz> more powerful, or chokes system resources less?
[05:17] <Zeelot3k> wont let me end the process >_>
[05:17] <TyphoidHippo> yes, there most certainly is!
[05:17] <namol> i can do everything from console
[05:17] <TyphoidHippo> .....for me.....
[05:17] <Zeelot3k> what's the command to end a process?
[05:17] <namol> kill
[05:17] <namol> or killall
[05:17] <Dr_willis> you can even watch porn from the console! :0
[05:17] <mattsqz> ...
[05:17] <TyphoidHippo> lol
[05:17] <Dr_willis> aaalib porn!
[05:17] <namol> ascii porn
[05:17] <namol> oooo baby
[05:17] <Zeelot3k> and the command to list all processes?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> Look at the size of that Asterisk!
[05:17] <namol> ps
[05:17] <namol> what's that switch
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> Zeelot3k, try htop
[05:17] <namol> ps -a for all i think
[05:18] <mattsqz> im using kubuntu+beryl, i must be a heretic
[05:18] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_willis :D
[05:18] <namol> lol
[05:18] <TyphoidHippo> I'd like to hit that close bracket
[05:18] <mattsqz> my poor neglected console
[05:18] <Minataku> What's up? :D
[05:18] <TyphoidHippo> oh yea baby
[05:18] <Minataku> 8[05:18] <Minataku> XD
[05:18] <TyphoidHippo> lol
[05:18] <Minataku> Sorry, that was bad
[05:18] <Minataku> X3
[05:18] <namol> ({}) oh yea
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  about 8 hrs of shopping/running around.. she finially got so tired she couldent shop no more.
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> mattsqz, that's why linux rules, whatever floats your boat
[05:18] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heh
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  I did pick up a Antec 900 case on sale for $60
[05:18] <TyphoidHippo> I was gonna draw it, but decided to be a pansie
[05:18] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Nice
[05:18] <Zeelot3k> still won't let me kill the process...
[05:18] <Zeelot3k> wtf
[05:19] <namol> try sudo
[05:19] <Minataku> Zeelot3k: Try with -9
[05:19] <namol> sudo kill -9 pid
[05:19] <Dr_willis> moved my main pc into it. its not a bad case. But the  layout  is such  that my PS needs a longer cable or 2 for some conectors.
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> yeah, apt -s a root proc...needs sudo
[05:19] <TyphoidHippo> I remember the scripts for AOl back in like...I don't know, 1800 something that did ascii porn all over the screen
[05:19] <Minataku> If SIGTERM doesn't take it down, SIGKILL should. If SIGKILL doesn't, then you're in trouble
[05:19] <Minataku> XD
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> s/-s/is
[05:19] <namol> warning, abort abort abort!
[05:20] <namol> lol
[05:20] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I'm guessing all that shopping left you with no time to do anything else XD
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> but worst comes to worst, a reboot will defiantely clear anything on /var
[05:20] <namol> so, who's going to ohio linuxfest this year?
[05:21] <Zeelot3k> ok I killed the process and tried unlocking it again and still no go
[05:21] <namol> what's it say now?
[05:21] <Zeelot3k> same error
[05:21] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  i dident even have time to take a showqer this morning.
[05:21] <Dr_willis> I did pick up some packing material at the stores.
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> Zeelot3k, try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:21] <Dr_willis> her and her *$*&@ lets go look at cars...
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Shes going to the Hospital tomorrow for tests. Full Anastesia.. so she will be tired for the next 4 days i bet.
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> Zeelot3k, make sure any processes using the apt database are closed ie adept or synaptic
[05:22] <Zeelot3k> aha got it thanks
[05:22] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Bad and good all in one
[05:22] <Zeelot3k> found it heh
[05:23] <Minataku> I can imagine how annoying that can be, though XD
[05:23] <Minataku> At least you can supposedly relax now :D
[05:25] <TyphoidHippo> namol, what cosole editor do you use?  I can get vi to work....sometimes.....but it seems to just hate me and do whatever it wants all the time.
[05:25] <TyphoidHippo> *console editor*
[05:25] <namol> i like vim
[05:25] <namol> which is vi improved!
[05:26] <sfire> nano rocks
[05:26] <namol> eh
[05:26] <Minataku> nano
[05:26] <Minataku> FTW
[05:26] <TyphoidHippo> vi improved would be great
[05:26] <Minataku> Because it actually edits
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> TyphoidHippo, im losing geek points as i say this, but nano works for me
[05:26] <TyphoidHippo> I am gonna check out this nano
[05:26] <sfire> nano is super easy
[05:26] <namol> nano or pico
[05:26] <sfire> vi and vim are almost impossible
[05:26] <namol> how are they impossible
[05:26] <TyphoidHippo> I always find myself pressing insert over and over again
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> not impossible, just different
[05:26] <namol> emacs are freaking impossible
[05:27] <namol> yea, i is insert
[05:27] <TyphoidHippo> and never getting it to just let me type what I want
[05:27] <Minataku> emacs requires 10 fingers... on each hand.
[05:27] <namol> i use vim because it's on all my systems
[05:27] <namol> unix and linux
[05:27] <namol> nano isn't :P
[05:27] <namol> and neither is pico
[05:27] <namol> i used to use pico on rh 6
[05:28] <Minataku> vi pisses me off
[05:28] <namol> but then i learned
[05:28] <TyphoidHippo> sfire, your endorsement of nano has convinced me....
[05:28] <Minataku> I can sorta use it
[05:28] <namol> vi is great for stuff
[05:28] <namol> especially writing code
[05:28] <Minataku> But I don't care to memorize exactly how to use it
[05:28] <namol> like perl/bash scripts
[05:28] <louis_> namol, 30 seconds to go! what's the next step?  atp-get lynx?
[05:28] <Minataku> vi is terrible for everything
[05:28] <Minataku> IMO, anyway
[05:28] <TyphoidHippo> "nano is super easy"  "vi is nearly impossible" Thats all I need to hear. lol
[05:28] <Minataku> And I use Gentoo and I still say nano is best
[05:28] <namol> louis_, i thought you were already getting that
[05:28] <namol> gentoo is easy
[05:29] <Minataku> I know what I'm doing in Linux/Unix, and I still prefer nano over *
[05:29] <louis_> haha no no. apt-get update right now
[05:29] <namol> you want hard use slackware, there's no easy way to install stuff :P
[05:29] <namol> or upgrade
[05:29] <TyphoidHippo> Yes
[05:29] <TyphoidHippo> I want hard!
[05:29] <louis_> slooooow =(
[05:29] <TyphoidHippo> Give me the most obscure, hardest to figure out OS in the world, baby!
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> namol, used slack for quite a few years
[05:29] <Minataku> TyphoidHippo: OpenVMS
[05:29] <namol> hitmanWilly, i love slack
[05:29] <louis_> oh wait... sike... it's still updating... there's a hell of a lot of packages to get here...
[05:29] <louis_> what will i be doing with lynx once i get it?
[05:29] <TyphoidHippo> And make the documentation in Russian
[05:30] <namol> it taught me many things about linux
[05:30] <TyphoidHippo> I have used openvms
[05:30] <FroggyTheGreat> ok. does anyone have an eksprx580.ppd  file they can e-mail me?  This is just stymying me left and right here.
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> namol, ditto
[05:30] <Minataku> namol: And BDSM, no doubt
[05:30] <namol> louis_, try to open a webpage lol
[05:30] <TyphoidHippo> it's on the server at school
[05:30] <Minataku> TyphoidHippo: Bullsh?t
[05:30] <Minataku> :o
[05:30] <TyphoidHippo> the mail server
[05:30] <Minataku> Woah
[05:30] <Minataku> Heh
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> namol, it just got a little too dated for my taste...
[05:30] <louis_> okay. i'll hit you up when all this downloading is done
[05:30] <Minataku> Now if OpenVMS isn't a crazy bitch, nothing is
[05:30] <TyphoidHippo> I haven't installed it or anything....but I have had to use it
[05:31] <TyphoidHippo> I had a big pink book to help me
[05:31] <namol> hitmanWilly, i use it for when i need a newer kernel that supports old/obscure hardware
[05:31] <TyphoidHippo> and that was it
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> namol, :)
[05:31] <Minataku> Heehee
[05:31] <namol> i'd like you to use sco TyphoidHippo
[05:31] <james_> heya
[05:31] <Minataku> TyphoidHippo: Yeah, I'm an OS collector
[05:31] <louis_> i feel like a turtle...
[05:31] <james_> need a lil help here, nvidia go-7800 and Kubuntu
[05:31] <Minataku> And all those DEC OSes completely escape me
[05:31] <james_> which module should i be using? nvidia-glx ?
[05:32] <louis_> namol, how did you get so good with linux?
[05:32] <namol> james_, sure that sounds good
[05:32] <namol> louis_, it's my job lol
[05:32] <namol> network/sysadmin
[05:32] <namol> i also have to use windows too :\
[05:32] <TyphoidHippo> IS OpenVMS not used much anymore?  It wasn't that hard to use it, from what I remember...  Of course, I didn't have to much beyond setting up new email accounts.
[05:33] <TyphoidHippo> to do much
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> james_, actually, that one can use nvidia-glx-new
[05:33] <sfire> OpenVMS runs the stock exchanges I do believe
[05:33] <louis_> haha that would do it
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> james_, or nvidia-glx, both work well
[05:33] <james_> isnt the 'new' for legacy cards?
[05:33] <louis_> i had no idea there was this kind of support on IRC... here i've been looking for kubuntu forums...
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> james_, no, the -legacy is for legacy cards
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> james_, there's three seperate nvidia modules in the repos right now
[05:34] <TyphoidHippo> The tech department at the school I was working at doesn't have a clue how their mail server works (the OpenVMS one).  That was kinda funny to me.  They use Windows servers for almost everything but mail.
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> james_, the 8000 series need the -new ones
[05:35] <Minataku> TyphoidHippo: Oi
[05:35] <louis_> So random question, is it a bad idea to get automatix?
[05:35] <Minataku> louis_: YES
[05:35] <namol> TyphoidHippo, that's because exchange gets expensive
[05:35] <crdlb> louis_, no
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> james_, anything older than 6000 needs the legacy IIRC,
[05:35] <Minataku> !automatix
[05:35] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:35] <james_> k, its a 7800 here
[05:35] <crdlb> louis_, misread
[05:35] <crdlb> lol
[05:35] <Minataku> Heh
[05:35] <james_> brb lemme restart
[05:35] <louis_> i've heard yes, but it's so darn convenient
[05:35] <Minataku> I was about to say, crdlb
[05:35] <crdlb> I thought you said good idea
[05:35] <Minataku> !automatix | louis_
[05:35] <ubotu> louis_: please see above
[05:35] <Tm_T> louis_: and entering few apt-get commands isn't?
[05:36] <Minataku> It's convienent until it rapes you in the ass and makes your system it's bitch >.<
[05:36] <Tm_T> louis_: you can even make script to do it for you if you're that lazy
[05:36] <Tm_T> Minataku: you're mine
[05:36] <louis_> haha point taken, TM_T
[05:36] <Minataku> Tm_T: ?
[05:36] <TyphoidHippo> I used Automatix to install BUM on some systems, and it worked fine.  that's all I used it for, though...if that helps.  Which I'm sure it doesn't.
[05:37] <Minataku> Tm_T: That's the best way to put it
[05:37] <Minataku> lol
[05:37] <louis_> let me get this straight though
[05:37] <Tm_T> Minataku: sure it is
[05:37] <namol> cavs are coming back!
[05:37] <louis_> i can pretty much apt-get anything, but how do i point it to the right repository?
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> louis_, add them to sources.list
[05:37] <namol> louis_, with your sources.list
[05:37] <Tm_T> sources.list contains list of sources
[05:37] <Minataku> Besides, we can all agree that ABC primetime is family friendly, and I was hearing those two words there since at least 2000
[05:38] <TyphoidHippo> cavs are gonna lose!  (I don't really know anything about football these days...just want to add an opposing voice here).
[05:38] <namol> which is by default in the /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:38] <louis_> yeah cavs!
[05:38] <Tm_T> Minataku: I was saying you're my bitch
[05:38] <louis_> sudo kate sources.list?
[05:38] <Minataku> Tm_T: I'm nobody's bitch... yet
[05:38] <Tm_T> louis_: kdesu for GUI
[05:38] <namol> what's kate? lol
[05:38] <Minataku> You gotta get to know me first
[05:38] <Minataku> XD
[05:38] <Tm_T> Minataku: so you think
[05:38] <TyphoidHippo> I'm BIND's bitch.
[05:39] <Minataku> Tm_T: Is that some kind of threat?
[05:39] <hitmanWilly> Tm_T, at least buy him dinner or something :P
[05:39] <Tm_T> anyway, that's offtopic
[05:39] <louis_> okay so sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:39] <Tm_T> Minataku: no, silly joke
[05:39] <Minataku> Tm_T: Okay
[05:39] <Tm_T> louis_: kdesu
[05:39] <Minataku> Sorry, I have paranoia issues
[05:39] <Minataku> XD
[05:39] <james_> still stuck at 640x480 on a 1440x900 display
[05:39] <Tm_T> louis_: kdesu instead of sudo when ticling GUI apps
[05:39] <louis_> isn't that the text editor?
[05:39] <louis_> or have i been making that up?
[05:39] <sfire> james_: I can help
[05:39] <Minataku> james_: Mailboxed LCD, I bet, too
[05:40] <sfire> 1 sec
[05:40] <Minataku> !resolution
[05:40] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:40] <Tm_T> louis_: Kate is graphical text editor
[05:40] <louis_> kdesu is a text editor?
[05:40] <louis_> oooooooh okay
[05:40] <louis_> kde super user! i get it!
[05:40] <Tm_T> louis_: nano is text mode text editor
[05:40] <louis_> okay. so i can work with .config files using kate right?
[05:40] <Tm_T> sure
[05:40] <Dr_willis>  text mode text editor ......... hmm..
[05:41] <TyphoidHippo> And nano is super easy!  (or so I'm told)
[05:41] <louis_> or i can use nano?
[05:41] <Tm_T> sure
[05:41] <james_> well i have 2 choices , NV or Nvidia
[05:41] <Tm_T> you can use any text editor you like
[05:41] <namol> freaking cavs
[05:41] <Dr_willis> nvidia = the actual drivers from nvidia, nv = the opensourced drivers.
[05:41] <crdlb> (except notepad in wine)
[05:41] <Dr_willis> notepad in wine is bad...
[05:41] <Dr_willis> ;0
[05:41] <Tm_T> crdlb: that too
[05:41] <TyphoidHippo> yea, they're going down, namol.  No hope for them.
[05:41] <Minataku> TyphoidHippo: Try it out, it is easy
[05:41] <louis_> okay. sorry, it has got to be frustrating explaining this stuff to me
[05:42] <crdlb> Tm_T, it'll screw up the linebreaks :)
[05:42] <Minataku> You open a file for editing and actually are able to immediately edit it
[05:42] <TyphoidHippo> notepad in wine? lol, are you serious?  Who does that?
[05:42] <Tm_T> louis_: nah
[05:42] <namol> TyphoidHippo, i hope your dynmasq breaks
[05:42] <Tm_T> crdlb: so?
[05:42] <TyphoidHippo> lol!!
[05:42] <Minataku> Launch nano with -w if it has long lines
[05:42] <crdlb> apt will complain
[05:42] <Tm_T> crdlb: you can still use it, though it breaks it
[05:42] <Minataku> In fact, if you're editing config files with nano, it's best to launch with -w
[05:42] <TyphoidHippo> I hope your "improved" vi editor gets a virus.
[05:43] <sfire> ^^ very true
[05:43] <louis_> -w to launch. got it
[05:43] <TyphoidHippo> That makes it as hard for you as it is for the rest of us.
[05:43] <namol> TyphoidHippo, i can use any editor :P:
[05:43] <Dr_willis> i like 'fte' for an editor
[05:43] <Dr_willis> !info fte
[05:44] <TyphoidHippo> Well, then I hope you get a virus
[05:44] <ubotu> fte: Text editor for programmers - base package. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.50.0-1.4 (feisty), package size 87 kB, installed size 332 kB
[05:44] <TyphoidHippo> so there!
[05:44] <louis_> namol, when I apt-get lynx it says E: Invalid operation lynx
[05:44] <james_> ok here we go another re-start
[05:44] <namol> apt-get install lynx
[05:44] <james_> brb
[05:44] <FroggyTheGreat> I'm at my wits' end here.  I downloaded the software from Epson, made it, installed it, and it'll make a driver file for my printer...if it would work.
[05:44] <namol> or if you installed it
[05:44] <louis_> oh. duh
[05:44] <namol> type lynx google.com
[05:45] <louis_> okay it's installing lynx now
[05:45] <FroggyTheGreat> ./pipslite-install should detect the printer and make the driver.  It can't detect the printer on the USB port, even though the rest of the KDE system can.
[05:45] <TyphoidHippo> froggy, I have an epson printer, and I just used CUPS to get it to work.  I'm sure that is totally useless information for you, but maybe not.
[05:45] <louis_> ugh... 44 minutes to go
[05:45] <louis_> oh. make it 10
[05:45] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone have any ideas?  I've pretty much tapped out Google here.
[05:45] <namol> what type of printer is it?
[05:45] <james_> yaaa!!!! Thanks guys!
[05:45] <TyphoidHippo> photo R340
[05:45] <FroggyTheGreat> Epson Stylus Photo RX580.
[05:46] <TyphoidHippo> with the disk printing thing in it
[05:46] <FroggyTheGreat> If I could just get the driver listed in CUPS, it'd be great.  Gimp can tell what it is, but Cups can't.
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> james_, i tke it its working?
[05:46] <james_> yup yup 1440x900
[05:46] <james_> now to see if the dri and glx are working
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> :)
[05:47] <louis_> namol:  adept seems to be working now.  i have the icon in the systray indicating that i have packages that need updating
[05:47] <TyphoidHippo> I had to jump through a couple of hoops to make it work, hold on, and I'll check out what I had to do for you.
[05:47] <FroggyTheGreat> Epson's software for it is a utility to create the drivers, but the creation utility can't tell the printer is plugged in.
[05:47] <james_> hmm appears not to be
[05:47] <namol> louis_, good, now you'll spend all night performing updates lol
[05:47] <louis_> i'm assuming that means adept is working...
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> james_, glxinfo | grep direct
[05:48] <louis_> haha woohoo!
[05:48] <louis_> i'll try to get my browser working before tackling that crazy ish
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> james_, that'll tell you if you have direct rendering
[05:49] <TyphoidHippo> Froggy, I'm sorry, I lied to you.  My server is ubuntu-server, and it just worked in CUPS on that machine.  I was thinking of another printer system that I had problems with.
[05:49] <FroggyTheGreat> ok
[05:50] <FroggyTheGreat> Any idea how to get the program to recognize the USB connection?
[05:50] <james_> had to sudo nvidia-glx-config enable , glx is working great now
[05:50] <TyphoidHippo> Which program?  Cups?  Through the web interface?  I haven't really been following your problem.
[05:51] <TyphoidHippo> Mine is hooked up through USB, and I seem to vaguely remember having to mess with some permissions to get it to work.
[05:52] <FroggyTheGreat> Cups can't see the driver.  Gimp can.  I don't know why.  The Epson software (pipslite-install) is supposed to detect the printer, create a driver for it, and we go from there.
[05:52] <FroggyTheGreat> pipslite-install can't detect the printer, even though it's on, connected, and the rest of teh system can see it.
[05:53] <namol> FroggyTheGreat, have you tried ndiswrapper? :)
[05:53] <FroggyTheGreat> I haven't.  What is it?
[05:53] <sfire> does ndiswrapper work for printers?
[05:53] <namol> lol i'm just joking
[05:53] <TyphoidHippo> When I installed it, I used the GUI utility for gnome.  I don't know what pipslite is, sorry...
[05:54] <namol> it'd be great if it did
[05:54] <sfire> ahhh... damn you namol :p
[05:54] <sfire> lol.. got all excited for a second
[05:54] <sfire> :p
[05:54] <namol> ndiswrapper is a program for loading windows drivers for wireless cards
[05:54] <FroggyTheGreat> ok
[05:54] <sfire> I've got a dell color laser that I can't get working :(
[05:54] <FroggyTheGreat> Are there any genuflections that generally work for making Linux or Linux programs recognize a device on the USB port?
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> sfire, check out linuxprinting.org and see if there are any known issues with it
[05:56] <louis_> namol, lynx is installed
[05:56] <louis_> how to i go to google? lynx google?
[05:56] <namol> lynx google.com
[05:57] <louis_> accept cookie, i assume
[05:57] <namol> yup
[05:57] <louis_> okay it's on
[05:57] <namol> looks to be your konqueror
[05:57] <namol> i'd use a different gui browser
[05:57] <namol> like firefox
[05:57] <louis_> yeah i'd lvoe to ditch konq
[05:57] <louis_> atp-get install firefox?
[05:57] <namol> apt-get install firefox
[05:57] <louis_> sweet!
[05:58] <louis_> thanks SO MUCH, NAMOL!
[05:58] <namol> louis_, see, you're getting it, soon you'll be using the console for everything!
[05:58] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok, anyone know where Gimp keeps its printer drivers?
[05:59] <louis_> namol, I'd lvoe nothign more than that
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> FroggyTheGreat, uses cups afaik
[05:59] <TyphoidHippo> It's called gnome-cups-manager, the thing that I used, that just magically worked for my USB Epson Stylus Photo printer.  I remember that I plugged that printer into a laptop that was running xubuntu, and the xubuntu printer thing couldn't make it work, so I installed gnome-cups-manager on there, and it somehow made it work, magically.  you can install gnome stuff on your kde system...but you may have to install
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> FroggyTheGreat, however, it does use the gnome printer interface
[06:00] <Minataku> Hooray, louis_ :D
[06:00] <Minataku> :3
[06:00] <namol> woooooo
[06:00] <Minataku> Because I'm too poor for them to be useful
[06:00] <Minataku> ;o;
[06:00] <louis_> O'DOYLE RULES!
[06:01] <Minataku> XD
[06:01] <namol> hah
[06:01] <Minataku> Heehee
[06:01] <Minataku> TyphoidHippo: I was thinking Gears of War for a second
[06:01] <Minataku> XD
[06:01] <TyphoidHippo> hehe
[06:01] <TyphoidHippo> that'd be quite a hug
[06:01] <Minataku> But then I realized that a "gear hug" in that context would probably be very bad X3
[06:01] <louis_> i wish my name was o'doyle
[06:01] <louis_> haha yeah i give o'doyle 1000 useless points and a coupon to have sex with my girlfriend
[06:01] <louis_> she's hot, i promise
[06:01] <louis_> sorry... i give namol the coupon and the points
[06:01] <TyphoidHippo> With a chainsaw and everything
[06:02] <namol> a gear hug, it's like a bear hug but with a lot more grinding
[06:02] <Minataku> Nothing says "I love you" like blood everywhere
[06:02] <Minataku> j/k
[06:02] <louis_> no but this is a perfect example of how i could have saved time/trouble by using a command prompt ... at least now i know the secret of atp-get install
[06:02] <namol> apt
[06:02] <namol> :P
[06:02] <TyphoidHippo> the secret of apt-get install, lol
[06:02] <louis_> seriously, thanks to all of you.  this irc is great
[06:03] <TyphoidHippo> isn't it though?
[06:03] <TyphoidHippo> this is my first time in here
[06:03] <FroggyTheGreat> HAH!
[06:03] <TyphoidHippo> I like these guys
[06:03] <namol> oh just you wait :P
[06:03] <louis_> yeah. apt. lol
[06:03] <louis_> lazy fingers
[06:03] <namol> with the command line you can also hit tab for command completion
[06:03] <namol> it's good to use
[06:03] <louis_> haha the secret which is not secret at all
[06:03] <namol> i use it alot
[06:04] <louis_> wow. i almost feel qualified to help others now...
[06:04] <namol> so you can type ap and it will auto complete up to the nearest match then you can type g and then hit tab again
[06:04] <Minataku> Heh, I compiled something for someone in here today XD
[06:04] <TyphoidHippo> and you can also type /mount, and solve like 4/5 of the problems I had as a windows user when I first came to linux
[06:04] <louis_> oh that's sweet
[06:04] <FroggyTheGreat> DOH!
[06:04] <FroggyTheGreat> When in doubt, try the Gnome utility.
[06:04] <Minataku> Thanks to static compilation techniques
[06:04] <louis_> yeah i can see how that would be a huge timesaver
[06:04] <louis_> where do you live, namol?
[06:05] <TyphoidHippo> Froggy, it worked?
[06:05] <namol> in ohio
[06:05] <namol> in a house
[06:05] <namol> bang head here
[06:05] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok, KDE has the better interface IMNERHO, but dammt, the Gnome utilities WORK.
[06:05] <TyphoidHippo> If so, that's awesome!  I helped!!!!
[06:05] <louis_> typhoidhippo, you can mount from the command line?
[06:05] <TyphoidHippo> I'm gonna tell everybody!
[06:05] <namol> i hate gnome
[06:05] <Minataku> GNOME is horrible
[06:05] <louis_> haha sweet. delaware... in a crappy UDel apt
[06:06] <FroggyTheGreat> Agreed
[06:06] <crimsun> geez, it's not horrible.
[06:06] <namol> i use flux for the awesome backgrounds......
[06:06] <Minataku> And no, GNOME utilities are horrific
[06:06] <FroggyTheGreat> But its cups utility installed my printer.
[06:06] <FroggyTheGreat> What's the gnome smb utility called?
[06:06] <louis_> which in this case is short for apartment
[06:06] <louis_> Froggy, i'd have to agree with that
[06:06] <Minataku> crimsun: Yeah, it is.
[06:06] <crimsun> it's not many people's cup of tea, but it's not awful
[06:06] <TyphoidHippo> That's so cool
[06:06] <TyphoidHippo> umm, let me check
[06:06] <TyphoidHippo> it's pretty good, too
[06:06] <louis_> GNOME is ugly... i know that's a lame reason to use KDE
[06:06] <jarn> FroggyTheGreat: IMNERHO? If that means "In my not even remotely humble opinion", that is the greatest acronym ever.
[06:06] <Tm_T> louis_: appearance is configurable
[06:06] <TyphoidHippo> Gnome with the Kore theme is drop dead sexy
[06:06] <Minataku> It's rather disgusting, what with it's use of GTK, terrible WM and "You're too stupid to see any advanced options" way of thinking
[06:06] <louis_> but GNOME looks like a bag of nuts
[06:06] <namol> i like ftbrg ;)
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> kde's disk and filesystem applet has p'd me off for the last time
[06:07] <namol> do you have stairs in your house?
[06:07] <louis_> what's flux?
[06:07] <namol> fluxbox, another windows manger
[06:07] <TyphoidHippo> fluxbox is awesome
[06:07] <namol> window manager, not windows
[06:07] <TyphoidHippo> It's what I use on all my computers
[06:07] <TyphoidHippo> It's soooooo simple
[06:07] <Minataku> I use Fluxbox as well
[06:07] <FroggyTheGreat> When pigs fly and KDE4 is out...
[06:07] <namol> well blackbox is the original so there
[06:07] <Minataku> Though lately it's been pissing me off
[06:07] <TyphoidHippo> and you can configure everything to your heart's content
[06:08] <Daisuke_Ido> i went through a period of wanting to tweak every little setting
[06:08] <louis_> fluxbox is analogous to beryl?
[06:08] <Daisuke_Ido> now i just want things to work
[06:08] <Daisuke_Ido> reliably
[06:08] <Minataku> louis_: No
[06:08] <TyphoidHippo> (And fluxbox looks pretty cool, too)
[06:08] <FroggyTheGreat> Sorry about that.
[06:08] <TyphoidHippo> yea, sorry
[06:08] <namol> no, beryl is for all the flashy stuff
[06:08] <Daisuke_Ido> fluxbox is great, but i spent more time tweaking and less actually doing things
[06:08] <Minataku> "Flux" is also a substance used in soldering to prepare the board surfaces for the application of solder
[06:08] <TyphoidHippo> I'll find the smb tool for you, froggy
[06:08] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[06:08] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:08] <Minataku> It stinks like hell when burned and is completely unrelated
[06:08] <Minataku> XD
[06:08] <Tm_T> you really are free to join #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:09] <louis_> minataku, can you explain?  it sounds interesting
[06:09] <Minataku> Nobody's asking for help right now
[06:09] <crimsun> /join #kubuntu-offtopic #:)
[06:09] <Minataku> When people ask, we'll shift back
[06:09] <Tm_T> Minataku: I know
[06:09] <Minataku> We need downtime that doesn't involve being shuttled off to a dead channel where no conversation or topic ever survives
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:10] <Minataku> In fact, it's borderline offensive to tell us to move it, since it never moves, it just dies
[06:10] <louis_> dude it's a quick question ...=)
[06:10] <namol> oh yea,  so back to my original question
[06:10] <crimsun> it's not borderline offensive.  He's an op.
[06:10] <Tm_T> btw anyone have an idea how to get kickoff to follow... bah, forget, need to hack sources
[06:10] <Minataku> If you're gonna tell us to stay on topic, just tell us to shut the hell up instead ;3
[06:11] <louis_> so basically fluxbox configures how you work with your desktop environment?
[06:11] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok, thanks for the tip on the printer.  It works now.
[06:11] <namol> no, fluxbox is like kde
[06:11] <Minataku> louis_: No, fluxbox is a window manager
[06:11] <Minataku> namol: No
[06:11] <Tm_T> Minataku: or just remove you from channel? ;)
[06:11] <Minataku> Fluxbox is like kwin
[06:11] <louis_> stuff like double clicking the title bar, etc...?
[06:11] <namol> i'm not done yet damn it!
[06:11] <Minataku> Tm_T: That would just be rude ;3
[06:11] <TyphoidHippo> froggy, it's called "shares-admin"
[06:11] <Tm_T> Minataku: oh I thought I am
[06:11] <Minataku> You can actually use KDE with Fluxbox
[06:11] <namol> well you can use kde tools with gnome too
[06:11] <Tm_T> Minataku: thanks <3
[06:12] <Minataku> np ^^
[06:12] <louis_> oooooooh okay. so fluxbox is analogous to kde and gnome
[06:12] <crimsun> no, KDE and GNOME are entire environments.
[06:12] <Minataku> It's a little more complicated than that
[06:12] <Minataku> Right
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> i used to run kicker on top of fluxbox
[06:12] <louis_> oh.
[06:12] <louis_> wow. i'll have to check out their site
[06:12] <louis_> i'm sure the screenshots will explain it
[06:12] <louis_> lol this is how i learn...
[06:12] <Minataku> KDE uses kwin as it's default WM
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> worked quite well actually
[06:12] <Minataku> GNOME uses metacity
[06:12] <crimsun> each environment is comprised of specific components, the generics of which can be implemented in various fashions.
[06:13] <louis_> is useless points linux lingo?
[06:13] <TyphoidHippo> hehe, no.  Fluxbox can't do beryl because it is it's own WM, which turns most people off to it.
[06:13] <Minataku> Either can be replaced with the WM of your choice
[06:13] <Minataku> louis_: No, the useless points is just me being silly
[06:13] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok, getting the scanner to work can wait till tomorrow.  Thanks all for your help.
[06:13] <louis_> ooh. i'm starting to see it
[06:13] <namol> but you can run multiple WMs
[06:13] <Minataku> Bah, Beryl can kiss my butt
[06:13] <TyphoidHippo> yea
[06:13] <TyphoidHippo> mine too
[06:13] <TyphoidHippo> twice
[06:13] <louis_> so fluxbox isn't just a gui
[06:13] <louis_> riiiight... okay
[06:13] <Minataku> Not just because I have a Trident card, either
[06:13] <Minataku> >.>
[06:13] <Minataku> louis_: It _IS_
[06:14] <Minataku> Look
[06:14] <louis_> haha okay
[06:14] <Minataku> KDE and GNOME are Desktop Environments
[06:14] <namol> lol, opening up a can of worms
[06:14] <Minataku> What controls the individual windows are WMs
[06:14] <Minataku> Window Managers
[06:14] <Minataku> A WM does not need a DE to run
[06:14] <TyphoidHippo> I can't believe I helped that guy get his printer to work....I feel all.......well lucky, really, I guess.
[06:14] <Minataku> A DE _DOES_ need a WM to run
[06:14] <crimsun> well, not really
[06:14] <Minataku> More or less, anyway
[06:14] <Minataku> crimsun: KISS
[06:15] <namol> and that's why i use console with bash
[06:15] <Minataku> We don't need to further confuse the hell out of the poor guy
[06:15] <Minataku> XD
[06:15] <louis_> but a DE needs a WM?
[06:15] <crimsun> a user sure is going to find moving objects on the screen difficult without a window manager, however.
[06:15] <Minataku> crimsun: Right
[06:15] <Minataku> Like that time I killed twm when I had a couple things on the screen
[06:15] <louis_> okay
[06:15] <louis_> i think i got it
[06:15] <Minataku> That was a pain in the ass
[06:15] <mike_> Greets, everyone
[06:15] <Minataku> Not as bad as when I killed it with NOTHING on screen, though XD
[06:15] <TyphoidHippo> louis:  Fluxbox doesn't do beryl or compiz or icons on the desktop - if that sounds good to you, then you'll love it.  If not, then you'll hate it.
[06:15] <mike_> Does anyone in here have any experience with GParted?
[06:15] <louis_> haha yeah! i'm just a linux virgin!
[06:16] <Minataku> louis_: The WM provides titlebars and function buttons
[06:16] <Daisuke_Ido> Minataku: drop to a tty and restart it?
[06:16] <Minataku> Like the X and maximize and such
[06:16] <louis_> well i guess namol sort of popped my cherry
[06:16] <louis_> sigh... you never forget your first time
[06:16] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Doesn't work on systems without VTs
[06:16] <Daisuke_Ido> good point.
[06:16] <namol> lol
[06:16] <TyphoidHippo> lol
[06:16] <louis_> ooh i do!
[06:16] <louis_> (big moment for me)
[06:16] <TyphoidHippo> mike, gparted I'm sure we all have experience with, what's up?
[06:16] <Minataku> Speaking of, who wants to see A/UX? :: http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/random/auximages/ :D
[06:17] <louis_> okay. now i definitely understand
[06:17] <louis_> so now that mike needs help ;-) ...
[06:17] <mike_> TyphoidHippo: It doesn't load. I just get a grub> prompt, no errors. :-\
[06:18] <mike_> TyphoidHippo: I'm pretty sure I got the exact same thing when I tried to run the SuperGRUB live CD as well. Not sure what the problem is with my system and these types of discs, as I ran GParted without issue on another computer.
[06:18] <louis_> oh... not quite in gparted's domain ... my advice is out lol
[06:19] <mike_> Thanks anyway, louis_
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> mike_, ok, do you have the grub prompt up now?
[06:19] <mike_> hitmanWilly: Yeah
[06:19] <louis_> mike, if you absolutely need it, why don't you download Knoppix and use gparted from there?
[06:20] <mike_> louis_: I was wondering if that would work. I'll try that if this doesn't pan out. Thanks for the tip.
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> mike_, ok, try this root (hd
[06:20] <louis_> I feel like it might actually be a better idea since all partitions can be unmounted and there's no read/write operations besides the gparted ones
[06:20] <TyphoidHippo> hmmmm
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> mike_, then hit tab twice to see what comes up
[06:20] <TyphoidHippo> I have a gparted livecd that works great
[06:21] <TyphoidHippo> it isn't superGRUB, I haven't even heard of that
[06:21] <louis_> no problem
[06:22] <TyphoidHippo> Are you just getting your normal grub screen?  As if it isn't even booting from the CD?
[06:22] <namol> is your cd-rom light on? :)
[06:22] <mike_> hitmanWilly: Partition num: 0... and Partition num: 4...
[06:22] <mike_> TyphoidHippo: Nope. I hosed GRUB when trying to repartition :-\
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> mike_, do you know which one your OS is on?
[06:23] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, i think i FINALLY have things working the way i want them to
[06:23] <TyphoidHippo> I think hitmanwilly will be leading you down a good path here, so I'm gonna go fight with vi, root for the cavs to lose, and see if Wine actually works as well as namol says it does.
[06:24] <mike_> Well, I've cleared everything off the disk except for the stuff I'm trying to rescue - I was going to try and repartition using QtParted from the Kubuntu live CD, put all the goods on a secondary partition and install the system to the primary, but that wasn't working
[06:24] <namol> i would have just dd it
[06:25] <mike_> TyphoidHippo: Thanks anyway. Happy fighting
[06:25] <mike_> namol: Was that to me?
[06:25] <TyphoidHippo> lol
[06:25] <namol> yup
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> mike_, so the cd isn't even booting then...is it set up for boot first in bios?
[06:25] <mike_> hitmanWilly: I'm pretty sure the stuff I'm trying to save is oh partition 0
[06:25] <namol> yes, Tm_T thank you! conky is what i wanted
[06:25] <mike_> No, the CD IS booting. It's just not booting properly
[06:26] <mike_> GRUB isn't installed on my system at all at this point
[06:26] <TyphoidHippo> What are the options in the bootloader?  Is one of them to boot gparted?
[06:26] <mike_> namol: dd?
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> mike_, did you have it before you repartitioned?
[06:27] <TyphoidHippo> sorry for asking such a dumb question...but hell we all make oversites.  I made a big one earlier, myself.
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> mike_, grub installs to the MBR so a repartition wouldn't affect the actual executable
[06:27] <wers> Has anyone here successfully used a webcam with Kopete?
[06:27] <mike_> hitmanWilly: Yeah, then when I repartitioned, I got error 22 when GRUB was loading. Tried several tutorials, presumably mis-stepped somewhere along the line and eff'd everything up
[06:27] <wers> my webcam works with other apps but not with kopete
[06:28] <TyphoidHippo> If you are sure you are in fact booting from the CD, and the CD just doesn't boot right, then all you can really do is try a different CD...
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> mike_, when you get the prompt that just means grub can't find anything to boot
[06:28] <mike_> All I want now is to get my home folder on a secondary partition so I can reinstall the OS on the primary one, then hopefully repartition without any problems and have everything on one partition
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> mike_, so its probably trying to boot the HD
[06:28] <mike_> hitmanWilly: No, I promise, it's booting from the CD. :-) ......
[06:28] <TyphoidHippo> That's what it sounds like to me too
[06:29] <mike_> hitmanWilly: When I boot w/o the CD in there, it doesn't give me a grub prompt
[06:29] <mike_> hitmanWilly: The Intel boot loader tries to boot, unsuccessfully of course,
[06:29] <TyphoidHippo> "INSERT SYSTEM DISK" Error?
[06:29] <mike_> I think that's what it said
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> "Keyboard Not Found, Press F1 To Continue"
[06:30] <TyphoidHippo> Well, that's weird, then.
[06:30] <namol> sounds like nothing is written to the mbr
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:30] <TyphoidHippo> Try a different CD.
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> stupid error msg that one
[06:30] <namol> i'd get knoppix
[06:30] <mike_> The Kubuntu live CD boots without issue
[06:30] <namol> use the kubuntu cd and see if you can mount the hd in there
[06:31] <TyphoidHippo> but qtparted doesn't work, right?  And the actual gparted CD gives you an inexplicable boot prompt...
[06:31] <mike_> namol: I already tried everything I could with the Kubuntu cd, no luck
[06:31] <Minataku> Operating System Not Found
[06:31] <mike_> TyphoidHippo: Nail on the head. :-)
[06:31] <Minataku> No OS
[06:31] <Minataku> Or one from an old 95% PC Compatible I used to have
[06:31] <Minataku> "IPL ERR"
[06:31] <Minataku> :D
[06:32] <TyphoidHippo> You can try any other live CD (that has a partition editor) - If I were you, I'd just keep trying until one worked.
[06:32] <Minataku> Try "Ultimate Boot CD"
[06:32] <Minataku> http://ubcd.sourceforge.<something>
[06:32] <mike_> Will I find that on DistroWatch?
[06:32] <Minataku> I forget it's TLD
[06:32] <namol> wait, you can't even mount the hd in the live cd?
[06:32] <mike_> Oh ok
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> there's always cfdisk-im pretty sure the kubuntu live cd has that one
[06:32] <Minataku> That should have a buttload of partitioners
[06:32] <namol> sf.net
[06:33] <Minataku> namol: I don't think you can use sf.net to get to it
[06:33] <mike_> namol: I can mount it, but once I unmount it, I can't make any changes to it in QtParted
[06:33] <TyphoidHippo> I always use backtrack when I can't get anything else to work.
[06:33] <TyphoidHippo> I don't know if backtrack has a partition editor though...surely it does.
[06:33] <Minataku> mike_: They're not gonna be GUI but TUI
[06:33] <Minataku> ncurses-style
[06:33] <Minataku> Like cfdisk
[06:33] <namol> gui is for girlz
[06:33] <Minataku> There's three classes, GUI, TUI and CLI
[06:34] <namol> cli is for real mean
[06:34] <namol> men
[06:34] <namol> i cun tipe gewd
[06:34] <TyphoidHippo> "gui is for girls"!!  That's awesome
[06:34] <Tm_T> haha
[06:34] <hitmanWilly> freudian slip there, namol
[06:34] <hitmanWilly> :P
[06:34] <mike_> Ok... Well, thanks a LOT for the help, everyone. I'm gonna go see what I can do with Knoppix, and any of the other suggestions if necessary.
[06:35] <mike_> 'Preciate all the help. G'nite
[06:35] <Minataku> Only NON-MEN shave with SHARP ROCKS! Are you a NON-MAN!?
[06:35] <Minataku> XD
[06:35] <namol> night
[06:35] <Minataku> Night, mike_
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> ltr
[06:35] <TyphoidHippo> he's totally not booting from the CD!
[06:35] <TyphoidHippo> just kidding
[06:35] <namol> lol
[06:36] <namol> INSERT THE CD INTO THE DRIVE
[06:36] <TyphoidHippo> haha
[06:36] <TyphoidHippo> SHINY SIDE DOWN
[06:36] <hitmanWilly> yeah, that just sounds like grub doing its normal "duh, i no find OS"
[06:36] <namol> what if it's shiny on both sides
[06:36] <namol> and that's why i like lilo
[06:36] <TyphoidHippo> namol:  Then shoot your computer and get a typewriter
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:37] <Minataku> GRUB gives a prompt I believe if it has no conf
[06:37] <TyphoidHippo> and an error 22 if it can't find the right stuff
[06:37] <TyphoidHippo> he mentioned both
[06:37] <namol> "i like to use ntloader for all my boot manger needs"
[06:38] <TyphoidHippo> lol
[06:38] <Minataku> That's "NTLDR"
[06:38] <Minataku> Because it has to be short and dangerous sounding
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> yeah, and a fscked up, ie blank, partition wouldn't have a config
[06:38] <namol> and he's back
[06:38] <mike_> Hey, me again... Just had another thought....
[06:38] <namol> welcome back
[06:38] <mike_> Heh, thanks
[06:38] <TyphoidHippo> "NTLDR not found - you are so screwed - and you probably owe us money."
[06:38] <namol> lol
[06:38] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: But then it also wouldn't have stages 1.5 or 2
[06:38] <TyphoidHippo> I love that message
[06:38] <namol> WHERES THE DAMN .INI
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> yeah, true...
[06:39] <Minataku> "NTLDR not found... but then I didn't look very hard, so, like, whatever. Maybe later, dude."
[06:39] <TyphoidHippo> lol
[06:39] <namol> you'
[06:39] <mike_> Do any of you know how to install from the CD without formatting the drive?
[06:39] <Minataku> Then at the bottom of the screen
[06:39] <namol> re missing boot.ini, abort
[06:39] <TyphoidHippo> "Restart your computer at least 16 times, and then I will work."
[06:39] <Minataku> "But probably not."
[06:39] <mike_> lol
[06:40] <mike_> What program are these from, TyphoidHippo?
[06:40] <TyphoidHippo> Windows loader
[06:40] <Minataku> We're making up Windows NTLDR errors
[06:40] <mike_> NTLDR?
[06:40] <TyphoidHippo> yea
[06:40] <mike_> Oh, n/m
[06:40] <mike_> NT loader. Got it
[06:40] <TyphoidHippo> So what happened Mike?
[06:40] <namol> mike_, mount the hd and plug in a jump drive or something to get your stuff back
[06:41] <Minataku> "COMMAND.COM not found. Yeah, you heard me, despite being Windows NT, I can't find a file I don't need so I'm gonna be a bitch and never work again. So there. Nyah."
[06:41] <TyphoidHippo> that's funny stuff
[06:41] <namol> i use command,com all the time
[06:41] <namol> or cmd.exe
[06:41] <Minataku> It's cmd.exe
[06:41] <Minataku> Completely and utterly different
[06:41] <mike_> TyphoidHippo: I was wondering if it's possible to install the OS without formatting the drive
[06:41] <Minataku> cmd.exe is actually a laucher for a really, really lousy VM kinda piece of crap
[06:41] <Minataku> NTVDM
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> it sits on top of the win gui vice underneath it
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> like DOS used to
[06:42] <Minataku> That's a good one
[06:42] <namol> i could go for some food
[06:42] <TyphoidHippo> ehhh....  Well, I think it might be, but most modern distros simply won't let you do that.
[06:42] <gon> !opera
[06:42] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[06:42] <namol> can i redeem my points for food?
[06:42] <wers> !webcam
[06:42] <Minataku> "GUI not found. Since this is Windows you're totally up sh*t creek. I'ma sit here and laugh at your poor ass now."
[06:42] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:42] <Minataku> XD
[06:42] <wers> !kopete
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <namol> well how are you going to install onto a partition if it's not configured
[06:42] <TyphoidHippo> How are you going to install the OS, if you can't get any partition editor to load though?
[06:43] <wers> has anyone successfully used a webcam with kopete?
[06:43] <TyphoidHippo> namol, you are 3 seconds faster than I
[06:43] <Minataku> mike_: Are you SURE the CD is booting? I'm guessing that it's set to boot from the HDD first
[06:43] <TyphoidHippo> Your VI skills have paid off
[06:43] <namol> indeed
[06:43] <hitmanWilly> IIRC the kubuntu installer acts as a frontend for fdisk during install
[06:43] <namol> fdisk ftw
[06:43] <Minataku> Which is a dumbass thing to be set for but who knows what idiot computer manufacturers set their crap to these days
[06:43] <mike_> TyphoidHippo: Kubuntu did today (this is where I misstepped when following one of the tutorials). Of course, since it was installing over top of the old OS, it didn't really work
[06:44] <RawSewage> whats  'Use index.html'  in Konqueror View
[06:44] <TyphoidHippo> man, you have a mess over there
[06:44] <TyphoidHippo> Do you have another hard drive?
[06:44] <mike_> Minataku: 110% positive. W/ cd in drive: Boots to grub prompt. W/o cd in drive: Intel boot loader fails
[06:44] <Minataku> It's not "Intel boot loader"
[06:44] <mike_> Err whatever it's called
[06:44] <Minataku> It's the BIOS bootstrap
[06:44] <Daisuke_Ido> with a live cd it shouldn't give you a grub prompt.
[06:44] <namol> it's your mom's bios bootstrap, ooooo snap
[06:44] <Daisuke_Ido> it should boot to the cd.
[06:45] <Minataku> Unless your computer has some weird problems
[06:45] <TyphoidHippo> He says it does boot the kubuntu live cd, though.
[06:45] <mike_> Daisuke_Ido: Yeah. That'd be nice, wouldn't it. :-)
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> im guessing its set to boot from the hdd, and when grub sees what it thinks may be a bootable hdd, it goes into prompt mode
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i recommend you double-check your bios settings.
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> even triple-check
[06:45] <mike_> But grub isn't on my system, I assure you
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> a cd being read basically as a hdd
[06:45] <TyphoidHippo> Mike:  I don't really understand how you can possibly be experiencing what you are, without a misconfigured boot order in your bios.
[06:46] <namol> i say you're boned and your home directory is shot
[06:46] <Minataku> namol: The BIOS bootstrap's final step is to read in the loader from the designated section of the appropriate device
[06:46] <TyphoidHippo> But I would suggest to just get another hard drive
[06:46] <TyphoidHippo> install kubuntu on that
[06:46] <namol> Minataku, uhh ok
[06:46] <Minataku> Failing that, it halts the system and gives an error like "Operating System Not Found"
[06:46] <namol> i know how a bootstrap works :P
[06:46] <TyphoidHippo> then mount your drive with your data on it, and do as you will
[06:46] <gon> !firefox
[06:46] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:46] <namol> why are you telling me?
[06:46] <Minataku> namol: Sorry, I just didn't appreciate that remark, joke or not :P
[06:46] <namol> lol
[06:47] <Daisuke_Ido> before "get another drive", "check bios for dumb mistake"
[06:47] <Minataku> Plus I love talking about computers
[06:47] <Minataku> :3
[06:47] <mike_> Ok. Well, thanks again for the help. I'm really gone this time. Peace
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> grub not finding anything bootable will spit out the 22 error, finding something but not configured properly will spit out the prompt
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> IIRC
[06:48] <Daisuke_Ido> a few plausible suggestions and he just leaves.
[06:49] <Daisuke_Ido> i swear, sometimes it's not worth chewing through the leather straps in the morning :\
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> i think its our lack of broken english and indonesian accents :P
[06:49] <Minataku> Huh?
[06:49] <Minataku> Oh :P
[06:49] <namol> we need generic americanised names
[06:49] <namol> like butch
[06:49] <namol> and bob
[06:49] <Daisuke_Ido> Jeff
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> we obviously can't be professional tech support :P
[06:50] <Minataku> We can only be GOOD tech support
[06:50] <haiyah> hi, i'm about to buy this mainboard by gigabyte. its ethernet network is by realtek chipset. is debian compatible with this chipset? i read in realtek there are problems in linux
[06:50] <Daisuke_Ido> i think every outsourced tech support person i've ever talked to has been named jeff :\
[06:50] <Admiral_Chicago> hitmanWilly: realtek should be very good under linux
[06:50] <Daisuke_Ido> haiyah: i would recommend going with it.
[06:50] <Admiral_Chicago> haiyah: ^^
[06:50] <Admiral_Chicago> hitmanWilly: sorry about the highlight,
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> yes it should, i do use it actually :P
[06:51] <RawSewage> Thats not their real name.  Jeff is the only name under the GPL
[06:51] <Daisuke_Ido> hitmanWilly: sorry for that one too
[06:51] <haiyah> Daisuke_Ido: hi, what do u mean by going with it?
[06:51] <namol> i've had butch and bob and craig as outsourced tech support people
[06:51] <Daisuke_Ido> haiyah: realtek, thumbs up.
[06:51] <Minataku> Corporations that outsource HATE the GPL
[06:51] <Minataku> They'd rather use proprietary names
[06:51] <namol> whenever i call dell i always get me a fine person down in texas
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:51] <Minataku> Obviously "Jeff" is under a EULA of some sort
[06:51] <namol> lol
[06:51] <Daisuke_Ido> Minataku: dell.  providing ubuntu and therefore gpl'ed software, and therefore embracing it.  outsourcing.
[06:51] <haiyah> Daisuke_Ido: ic, u mean  realtek support in debian is ok?
[06:52] <Daisuke_Ido> poked a big friggin hole in that theory
[06:52] <Minataku> And you need to pay $400 to use the name "Jeff"
[06:52] <Minataku> Or you can pay $200 to use just "Jef"
[06:52] <Minataku> It sounds like "Jeff" but is missing part
[06:52] <jarn> Is there any way to get true transparency?
[06:53] <Daisuke_Ido> jarn: remove the actual screen from your monitor and look through the back.
[06:53] <Minataku> I know Broadcom makes horrible pieces of total friggin' crap
[06:53] <jarn> Daisuke_Ido: Does that mean it's impossible? :P
[06:53] <Daisuke_Ido> what do you mean by transparency?
[06:53] <Minataku> Fritz chip-style cards
[06:53] <Daisuke_Ido> broadcom is eeeeeevil
[06:53] <namol> lol
[06:53] <philphoto> ok folks, got a problem.  I tried using Okle to play DVD's but it wouldn't work.  now Okle is trying to load up no matter what device I try to open.
[06:54] <Daisuke_Ido> the fsck is okle?
[06:54] <philphoto> and I've completely removed it!
[06:54] <Daisuke_Ido> if it's loading, you haven't removed if.
[06:54] <Daisuke_Ido> it*
[06:54] <Daisuke_Ido> common sense right there.
[06:54] <namol> apt-get remove okle
[06:54] <philphoto> I'll get you the error, one moment
[06:55] <neptunepink> is there any particular reason why youtube videos embedded on a page never work?
[06:55] <philphoto> KDEInit could not launch Okle.  Could not find 'Okle' executable
[06:55] <antiroach> change the default association
[06:55] <antiroach> for dvds
[06:55] <Daisuke_Ido> sweet jesus.  what horrible piece of crud associates itself with everything?
[06:56] <namol> okle does
[06:56] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Commercial bullcrap
[06:56] <namol> or windows media player
[06:56] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, wait.  is this a linux version of windows media player?
[06:56] <antiroach> lol
[06:56] <Minataku> Or "free" crap from an asshole corporation
[06:56] <Minataku> Like RealOne
[06:56] <philphoto> Init is trying to launch it for some reason.
[06:56] <shiers69> Good day gents. I just installed kubuntu on my server to play with, install went fine.  After install completed i was instructed to reboot & remove the cd.  The OS won't load - "Press any key to reboot" any ideas?
[06:56] <Minataku> Or whatever the hell they call it this week
[06:56] <jarn> Daisuke_Ido: Transparency... where you can see through things. For example, I have my windeco set to transparent. Now, things on the bottom layer are fine. However, if something opens above those, rather than seeing the window nder it, I see a small piece of my desktop background.
[06:56] <philphoto> probably something like that
[06:56] <TyphoidHippo> I think Belkin uses Broadcom chipsets for all their wireless cards...and everytime someone I know (god forbid, but they do it ALL the time) buys some belkin crap for a computer I am supporting (that's running linux) I drop them at least five "feedback forms" full of four letter words...  Not that they care, but it makes me feel better.  "Don't buy Belkin" "OK" "I got a new card, I can't get it to work" "It's a b
[06:56] <Minataku> shiers69: Press the any key yet?
[06:57] <Daisuke_Ido> that's not real transparency
[06:57] <philphoto> anyway I might get around this?
[06:57] <shiers69> yeah, didn't work :-P
[06:57] <namol> i don't have the any key, what do i do??
[06:57] <TyphoidHippo> I think we may have moved past the broadcom topic, but I wanted to share anyway.
[06:57] <Minataku> shiers69: Heh
[06:57] <Daisuke_Ido> for real transparency, look at beryl or compiz
[06:57] <Minataku> TyphoidHippo: And from what I've heard they used to be good
[06:57] <jarn> Daisuke_Ido: I know, that's what I meant. That's not true transparency.
[06:57] <Minataku> But yeah, Broadcom chips with their encrypted firmware and totally useless "drivers"
[06:57] <jarn> Daisuke_Ido: It's not true transparency, but I want true transparency.
[06:58] <Daisuke_Ido> beryl and compiz most certainly do provide real transparency
[06:58] <TyphoidHippo> Minataku: I've never heard that...but I know I despise that company and all their cheap pieces of dung.
[06:58] <namol> TyphoidHippo, learn to use ndiswrapper
[06:58] <TyphoidHippo> That make linux look bad to a lot of people I know....because they work fine in Windows.
[06:59] <Minataku> shiers69: It sounds like nothing is in the MBR
[06:59] <TyphoidHippo> yea, I should
[06:59] <TyphoidHippo> I will
[06:59] <TyphoidHippo> that's a good point
[06:59] <Minataku> Did it install GRUB properly?
[06:59] <shiers69> f if i know
[06:59] <Minataku> Did you leave something in a drive?
[06:59] <Minataku> If you're not willing to actually make an effort, why are you bothering?
[06:59] <philphoto> anyone have any ideas with my problem?
[06:59] <shiers69> nope, manually erased the partition(s) on the disk before installing
[07:00] <Minataku> Sorry, it's 1AM here and I'm getting cranky
[07:00] <Minataku> >.<
[07:00] <shiers69> only 12 here
[07:00] <namol> 1am here
[07:00] <namol> time for bed
[07:00] <shiers69> i've done plenty of searching and havn't found anything yet
[07:00] <Minataku> shiers69: Try to boot the HDD from the Kubuntu install CD
[07:00] <shiers69> k, 1 sec
[07:00] <Minataku> After that, attempt to reinstall GRUB onto the HDD's MBR
[07:01] <namol> night
[07:01] <shiers69> nope, didn't work
[07:02] <shiers69> "press a key to reboot"
[07:02] <shiers69> weeee
[07:05] <shiers69> should i boot to the livecd again and work on grub from there?
[07:06] <mike_> Surprise surprise...
[07:06] <mike_> Looks like I might as well just stay in here til I get this sorted out.
[07:07] <mike_> I'm giving installing from the text installer w/o formatting the drive a shot. Just a quick question about configuring the primary partition - Under "Partition Settings" where it says "Bootable flag" - That should be set to "on," right?
[07:08] <TyphoidHippo> I'm outta here for the time being, guys.  you've all been great.  Have a good night everyone.
[07:08] <sfire> mike_: I would think so
[07:08] <mike_> G'nite TyphoidHippo
[07:09] <sfire> mike_: were you the one from earlier trying to save the /home/ partition and format the rest?
[07:09] <mike_> Right
[07:09] <sfire> I use the graphical installer
[07:09] <sfire> but the text mode would work if you really wanna go that way
[07:09] <mike_> sfire: Already tried that. QtParted was giving me problems
[07:09] <Daisuke_Ido> mike_: go with gparted
[07:09] <mike_> I usually use the text mode installer anyway - just feels quicker.
[07:10] <mike_> Daisuke_Ido: GParted didn't boot
[07:10] <Daisuke_Ido> (and yes, you can install it from the live cd, pre-partition your drives)
[07:10] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuh.
[07:11] <mike_> Daisuke_Ido: The bootable flag for the primary partition (mount point: /) should be set to on, right?
[07:11] <mike_> I know it's a stupid question, but after frigging everything up, I'm trying not to do anything I'm not at least 99.9% sure about
[07:12] <Daisuke_Ido> yes
[07:12] <Tm_T> ofcourse
[07:13] <sfire> awww.. but doing it twice is so so so much fun
[07:13] <Tm_T> sfire:
[07:14] <Tm_T> sfire:
[07:14] <sfire> ?
[07:14] <mike_> sfire: Agreed, but I've done it twice about 50 times today. Starts becoming a little tedious at some point. :-P
[07:15] <mike_> This seems a bit strange though.....
[07:15] <Tm_T> sfire: DUCK!
[07:15] <sfire> ducks even
[07:15] <shiers69> Daisuke_Ido: I just installed kubuntu w/ the graphical setup from the livecd, i've got a scsi drive that i'm dedicating to it and I'm letting it take over the whole drive. it installs fine, but upon reboot my machine fails to load the os
[07:15] <shiers69> probably a grub issue, but that should also be installed on that drive
[07:16] <Tm_T> ok, time to go to work, remember to behave, kids
[07:16] <mike_> Later Tm_T
[07:16] <sfire> of course ;-)
[07:17] <mike_> In the partition table, there were only two partitions - #1 (/) and #2 (swap) and there's no free space at all. Every other time I've installed, swap's always been at #5, with a small amount of free space I can't relocate, and no other partitions are listed, even though swap is at #5
[07:17] <octoberdan> How do I add a DNS suffix with knetworkmanager like I can with nm-applet?
[07:18] <octoberdan> DNS Suffix Search List or something
[07:18] <mike_> I hope I haven't completely effed this drive
[07:18] <Daisuke_Ido> mike_: it means it's putting swap on a primary partition rather than a logical one
[07:18] <Daisuke_Ido> the drive should be fine
[07:18] <octoberdan> can't find it in "Manual Configuration
[07:18] <mike_> Daisuke_Ido: That's ok, right?
[07:18] <octoberdan> are there config files for that stuff?
[07:19] <mike_> I'm guessing if I wanted to dual boot two Linux OS's, I'd want swap to be logical so it could be shared by them?
[07:20] <mike_> !lvm
[07:20] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[07:24] <octoberdan> How do I set my DNS suffix?
[07:24] <jarn> Why can I not see the contents of my disc? When I put it in the drive and close it, the box saying a new disc is in pops up and I select "open in new window" and it shows it. However, if I then close that and navigate to the mount at which it is mounted (/media/cdrom0) it doesn't show anything in the folder.
[07:26] <octoberdan> Triffid_Hunter: octoberdan: echo "search suffixhere" >> /etc/resolv.conf
[07:28] <mike_> Umm....
[07:28] <mike_> YEEEESSSSSSS
[07:30] <mike_> Just got the OS reinstalled without any need for repartitioning to save my data
[07:30] <jzilla> i did that eariler ;o
[07:30] <mike_> Frickin' beautiful. Been working on that on and off all day
[07:30] <jzilla> it was so badass
[07:30] <mike_> jzilla: How'd you do it?
[07:30] <jzilla> i have /home on a 2nd HD
[07:31] <mike_> Ohh... Using LVM?
[07:31] <jzilla> nope
[07:31] <jzilla> just pop'd the cd in, told it to format the first hd, leave 2nd alone and remount /home to it
[07:32] <jzilla> worked like a charm, even kept my desktop wallpaper, relaunched irc and everything when i booted up
[07:32] <mike_> Mine wasn't quite as clean, but it appears to have worked perfectly so far
[07:32] <mike_> jzilla: Nice
[07:34] <mike_> Having only one hard drive, and no success with QtParted, GParted, or SuperGRUB, I booted the live CD, mounted hda1 to /media/hda1, deleted EVERYTHING except what I was saving, then rebooted into the text installer and told it not to format the drive
[07:34] <mike_> !worksforme
[07:34] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:36] <jzilla> nice
[07:36] <jzilla> i would have screwd that up
[07:37] <mike_> lol
[07:37] <mike_> I was on pins and needles during the installation
[07:37] <jzilla> yeah i bet
[07:37] <mike_> hehe
[07:37] <jzilla> the bunutu install process though
[07:37] <jzilla> is by far the best OS install ive ever seen
[07:40] <mike_> It always irritates me when people say having a step for partitioning would be confusing for Windows users
[07:41] <mike_> *could
[07:41] <jzilla> for alot of people, i could agree
[07:41] <jzilla> but at the same time, if it didnt, i coudnt use it ;\
[07:42] <mike_> Well, Windows has a partitioning step too, but considering Windows has to be on the primary partition, it's practically useless
[07:44] <jzilla> most people that would be confused by the partion step are the people that bought their computers presinstalled.
[07:44] <jzilla> i would think anyway
[07:44] <mike_> True
[07:54] <pagan0ne> hey guys, i know this is a bit off topic, but has anyone here compiled kiba for amd64 yet? if so, im having some trouble with deps, i would appreciate some help
[07:56] <pagan0ne> anyone know what package i need to install to satisfy a dependency for gnome-desktop-2.0 ?
[07:56] <mike_> pagan0ne: Sorry, no idea. You might ask the folks in #desktop-effects - I'd say you're more likely to find someone who knows there
[07:57] <pagan0ne> mike_: thanks, #kiba-dock (the channel the website refeers you to) has apparently been abandon
[07:57] <mike_> pagan0ne: Any particular reason you're compiling for source? Does the version in Trevino's repo. not work on 64-bit?
[07:57] <mike_> pagan0ne: No problem
[07:57] <pagan0ne> mike_: yeah theres no precompiled 64bit version yet
[07:57] <mike_> Oh ok
[07:58] <mike_> pagan0ne: Newbish question...
[07:58] <pagan0ne> mike_: what mine or yours? lol
[07:58] <mike_> pagan0ne: If you've got a 64-bit OS installed, does that mean you can only install deb's that are compiled specifically for 64-bit?
[07:58] <mike_> mine :-)
[07:59] <pagan0ne> mike_: pretty much, i have a "hack" going to get flash working under 64 bit, but its my understanding, unless its compiled 64 bit, it doesnt work
[08:00] <mike_> Oh ok. Had been wondering about that for a while. Thanks for clearing it up
[08:00] <pagan0ne> mike_: put it this way, i added Trevino's repo and i cant even see any kiba apps in adept
[08:00] <mike_> Makes me feel a little bit better about still having a 32-bit processor. :-P
[08:00] <mike_> Wow
[08:01] <jzilla> i just formated away from a 64 bit os this morning
[08:01] <pagan0ne> mike_: i just upgraded last week, i wouldnt feel too much better about it :D
[08:02] <mike_> hehe
[08:05] <mike_> Well I need to get out of here. G'nite, everyone
[08:06] <pagan0ne> so... anyone know what package will fill the dependency for gnome-desktop-2.0?
[08:11] <G3NESIS> Can someone help? Apt is saying another process is using the application plugin database.
[08:12] <G3NESIS> I can't find any other opne applications that would.
 ps -aux
[08:12] <G3NESIS> ps -aux?
 ya pipe through less to read
[08:13] <pagan0ne> G3NESIS: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:13] <jack-> or lsof
[08:14] <insmod> never used win but my father in-law asked if i can convert his m4p files -- any idea ?
[08:14] <flowingfire> Hello. :)  I have a PCMCIA card in my computer... I just installed the driver using NDISWRAPPER... I also installed the PCMCIA utilities for ubuntu.... Now, I can get the computer to recognize another networking device, but it doesn't work.  Any ideas.
[08:15] <flowingfire> ("Just Works" my ass, lol)
[08:16] <G3NESIS> Thanks guys.
ndiswrapper -l
[08:17] <flowingfire> insmod ... Ok.  one sec
[08:17] <pagan0ne> G3NESIS: np, i had trouble with that myself
[08:17] <flowingfire> insmod: When I type that it says, "
[08:17] <flowingfire> lsbcmnds : driver installed
[08:17] <flowingfire>         device (14E4:4320) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
 cool is that the card
[08:18] <flowingfire> insmod: Yup.  It's a Linksys...
 what does iwconfig say
[08:19] <flowingfire> what do I type?  just iwconfig/
[08:19] <flowingfire> Hmm... What does this mean?
[08:19] <flowingfire> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:""  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"
[08:19] <flowingfire>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid
[08:19] <flowingfire>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[08:19] <flowingfire>           Link Quality=0/100  Signal level=-256 dBm  Noise level=-256 dBm
[08:19] <flowingfire>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[08:19] <flowingfire>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
 do you have an eth0 card -- that is it
[08:21] <flowingfire> Yes... The eth0 card is what I'm talking to you with. :)
 eth0 is net card and wlan0 is usually wireless
[08:22] <flowingfire> hmmm
 anything else from iwconfig
[08:22] <flowingfire> i'll pastebin it... ubuntu.pastebin.nl?
 then just clean any loaded linux moduals and edit interfaces and done
[08:24] <flowingfire> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25063/
 hmm why use eth0 for wireless ?
[08:25] <flowingfire> i guess i'm confused... honestly, i barely know what i'm doing here...
ndiswrapper default is wlan0 -- that said i use aut0
[08:26] <insmod> aht0
[08:26] <genesis> Can someone please tell me the best way to install Gtk+?
[08:26] <flowingfire> ohhhhhh okk.....
 post lsmod and cat /etc/network/interfaces
[08:26] <genesis> I'm having all these issues with compiling.
[08:26] <crdlb> genesis, what are you trying to compile?
[08:27] <genesis> All the dependencies.
[08:27] <crdlb> of gtk?
[08:27] <flowingfire> Here is lsmod http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25064/
[08:27] <genesis> The one I'm having trouble with is libpng.
[08:28] <crdlb> genesis, just install it from the repositories
[08:28] <flowingfire> here is the other one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25065/
 k 2 secs
[08:29] <crdlb> !info libgtk2.0-0 | genesis
[08:29] <ubotu> genesis: libgtk2.0-0: The GTK+ graphical user interface library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.11-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 2481 kB, installed size 5372 kB
[08:29] <flowingfire> thx
[08:30] <genesis> I've tried install from the rep but then when I compile pidgin I get an error saying I don't have it.
[08:30] <crdlb> genesis, why are you trying to compile pidgin?
[08:30] <crdlb> use a package
[08:30] <crdlb> and you need to install the -dev packages
[08:30] <crdlb> if you wanted to compile pidgin
[08:31] <crdlb> genesis, http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=955
[08:31] <genesis> I need handbook for linux.
[08:32] <crdlb> handbook?
[08:32] <flowingfire> Weird... It says "hardware present: no" in the graphical utility...  But my PCMCIA card lights up saying it's powered by the computer... ubuntu has all the necessary pcmcia stuff installed...
[08:32] <genesis> I didn't even know a place like that existed.
[08:32] <genesis> Why don't they just put this up on the Pidgin site?
 what linksys card is it
[08:34] <cr4sh> !ntfs
[08:34] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:34] <flowingfire> WPC54GS 1.1
 is there a linux driver ?
[08:35] <flowingfire> not that i'm aware of
[08:36] <flowingfire> i checked on the linksys site and in adept
[08:36] <flowingfire> only windows infs
[08:36] <SillyZ> woohooo! Kubuntu up and rockin!
[08:36] <SillyZ> thanks for all the help here yall
 no no lol i mean one that maybe loading
[08:37] <SillyZ> two quick things.... 1, that bouncy damn icon on the mouse pointer.... how to remove it ?
[08:37] <flowingfire> I just uninstalled it to try again.. Yes.  I had it ndiswrapped, and the computer recognized it.... It just wasn't talking w/ the hardware for some reason... But the computer is obviously able to communicate w/ the hardware
[08:37] <louis_> hey guys
[08:38] <louis_> Question:  I have an ATI Radeon x300 (128 mb) how can I tell if I can run XGL?
 no u don't get it there are linux native drivers and windows drivers that use ndis -- is there a native driver
[08:39] <mattsqz> louis: you can
[08:39] <louis_> mattsqz, hello again =)
[08:39] <mattsqz> fglrx = ati glx driver
[08:39] <flowingfire> No, I do not think there is a native driver...
[08:39] <mattsqz> hey ;)
[08:40] <louis_> okay, so it's just a matter of sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager emerald-theme
[08:40] <cr4sh> hi, i have got a problem with installing kubuntu on a hdd with ntfs partitions. I cant access it with qtparted, since there are "No Implementation"s, but ntfstools/progs are installed
[08:40] <mattsqz> you need fglrx working properly
[08:40] <SillyZ> any ideas on how to remove the bouncy icon thing on the mouse pointer after clicking on something?
[08:40] <louis_> mattsqz, what does that mean?  fglrx = ati glx driver?  I'm not well versed in these things
[08:40] <louis_> so i need to install fglrx and then what?
[08:41] <louis_> apt-get install beryl?
[08:41] <genesis> Ok I tried install pidgin from the package and I still got dependcy errors.
[08:41] <SillyZ> mattsqz, you want my honest opinion.... I just paid for an Nvidia card so I didnt have to deal with the ATI card thats in my laptop
[08:41] <mattsqz> then you need to make sure its in your xorg.conf correctly
[08:41] <SillyZ> thats how much I hated the ATI drivers, and their lack of development
[08:41] <mattsqz> also theres something you need to run..
[08:41] <louis_> what's the xorg.conf?
[08:41] <mattsqz> yeah, but this guy just wants to try it out not go haywire with motion blur
[08:41] <louis_> lol and what do i need to run?
[08:41] <SillyZ> download the ati drivers from ati
[08:42] <SillyZ> dpkg -i ati....deb
[08:42] <mattsqz> nah apt-get xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:42] <SillyZ> aticonfig --initial --overlay=Xv
[08:42] <crdlb> louis_, why do you want to use Xgl?
[08:42] <louis_> crdlb, it looks pretty?
 modprobe ndiswrapper
[08:42] <crdlb> louis_, didn't you get the free driver working?
[08:42] <crdlb> louis_, Xgl itself doesn't have any effects, and you don't need it if you use the free driver
[08:42] <louis_> i havent tried anything yet, i barely got my firefox working
[08:43] <louis_> okay i'm really confused now
[08:43] <flowingfire> insmod: modprobe ndiswrapper gave me a blank lin
[08:43] <mattsqz> http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-linux-with-ati.html
[08:43] <mattsqz> go there
[08:43] <crdlb> louis_, /j #ubuntu-effects
[08:43] <louis_> i was hoping to get the squiggly windows, crazy cubes, and transparency effects
[08:43] <SillyZ> !remove bouncy icon
[08:43] <crdlb> yes you can get those with the free driver+aiglx+beryl
 cool
[08:43] <mattsqz> sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 beryl emerald-themes beryl-settings xorg-driver-fglrx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[08:43] <mattsqz> that should do it
[08:43] <louis_> mattsqz, the site you mentioned is for dapper, will it still work?
[08:43] <mattsqz> then run this
[08:44] <SillyZ> !remove mouse notification
[08:44] <crdlb> louis_, don't run that
 means it wan't loaded -- now iwconfig
[08:44] <mattsqz> sudo aticonfig --initial
[08:44] <jacques> hi there
[08:44] <mattsqz> itll work you just have to be aware of differences
[08:44] <louis_> what are the differences?
[08:44] <flowingfire> lo        no wireless extensions.
[08:44] <flowingfire> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[08:44] <crdlb> louis_, run this: glxinfo|grep direct
[08:44] <mattsqz> well you're using kubuntu for example so youll use kate instead of gedit
[08:44] <mattsqz> for one
[08:44] <jacques> Is there another mirror to download kubuntu gutsy tribe1
[08:44] <crdlb> louis_, in a terminal
[08:44] <louis_> ooh right okay
[08:45] <louis_> crdlb, yeah
 ifconfig
[08:45] <mattsqz> you can also ignore some of the xgl startup scripts
[08:45] <flowingfire> lots of gobble-dee-gook
[08:45] <mattsqz> in that link
[08:45] <flowingfire> for my wired card, of course
[08:46] <mattsqz> http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[08:46] <mattsqz> thats newer but same basic stuff
[08:46] <louis_> okay ... let me take this from the beginning
[08:46] <louis_> do i need fglrx?
[08:47] <mattsqz> the only thing most of these guides dont tell you is that you need to isntall the main beryl package from the beryl repos, the rest can come from the normal kubuntu repos
[08:47] <mattsqz> yes
[08:47] <mattsqz> you need it
[08:47] <louis_> bc i feel like mattsqz and crdlb are telling me two different things
[08:47] <crdlb> louis_, no
[08:47] <louis_> sorry, hate to be a pain =)
 looks good so far
[08:47] <crdlb> louis_, fglrx is unnecessary and will make beryl much harder to set up
 what does ifdown wlan0 say
[08:47] <mattsqz> so you want him to run it in software accel?
[08:47] <crdlb> no
[08:48] <crdlb> the free driver supports the x300
[08:48] <jacques> I am not able to download gutsy from the ubuntu site.
[08:48] <flowingfire> ifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied
[08:48] <jacques> is there another mirror?
[08:48] <mattsqz> fglrx seems simple..install, change driver in xorg.conf..
[08:48] <crdlb> mattsqz, Xgl isn't
[08:48] <crdlb> especially not with beryl
 what does sudo fdown wlan0 say
[08:48] <mattsqz> getting xgl working with my kubuntu was simple
[08:49] <louis_> okay lol i hate to dissappoint either of you but i'll give crdlb's advice a shot
[08:49] <louis_> crdlb, direct rendering: yes
[08:49] <crdlb> if aiglx doesn't work, you can always use the fglrx+Xgl route
[08:50] <flowingfire> sudo: fdown: command not found
[08:50] <llutz> hi
 sudo ifdown wlan0
[08:52] <flowingfire> ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured
[08:52] <mattsqz> im also using beryl from the ubuntu repos, not svn.
 cool
 sudo ndiswrapper
[08:53] <flowingfire> Hmm... one minute... brb
[08:54] <louis_> what's the konsole command for uninstall?
[08:54] <flowingfire> It just gave me a command list for ndiswrapper
[08:55] <louis_> and what's the difference between uninstall and purge in adept?
 sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[08:55] <flowingfire> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[08:55] <opengplux> hey
[08:55] <flowingfire> lol i needed to do that in the terminal
[08:55] <insmod> :)
[08:55] <flowingfire> Ok... It just gave me another line. :)
 iwconfig
 sudo iwconfig
[08:56] <flowingfire> same as before
[08:56] <flowingfire> lo        no wireless extensions.
[08:56] <flowingfire> eth0      no wireless extensions.
 sudo ndiswrapper -m
[08:57] <flowingfire> adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper ...
 iwconfig
 sudo iwconfig
[08:57] <flowingfire> lo        no wireless extensions.
[08:57] <flowingfire> eth0      no wireless extensions.
 sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:58] <flowingfire> lots of errors
[08:59] <flowingfire> notably,
[08:59] <flowingfire> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[08:59] <flowingfire> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[08:59] <flowingfire> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[08:59] <flowingfire> Bind socket to interface: No such device
[08:59] <flowingfire> Failed to bring up wlan0.
 k reboot should then work
[08:59] <flowingfire> :)  Ok... Brb then. :)
[08:59] <flowingfire> thanks for the help... I'll be back w/ the details.
[08:59] <insmod> k
[09:02] <louis_> what's the difference between uninstall and purge in adept?
 program vrs program and configs
[09:03] <flowingfire> Hello I'm back.... Still no wireless... And like before, my computer detects my Linksys card as eth1... And it's not working, but it has the driver installed and is lit up like a Christmas tree
[09:04] <mattsqz> welp..decompressing kde to the nokia..hope it works this time :)
[09:04] <louis_> insmod, what do you mean?
eth1 i the installed lan card
[09:04] <louis_> oh nvm
[09:04] <louis_> i get it
[09:04] <louis_> so when you purge it gets rid of all the customizations and configurations along with it
 the first doe not remove the config files
[09:05] <louis_> kinda like deleting windows registry entries for a program
[09:05] <louis_> except this isnt windows?
[09:05] <flowingfire> eth0 was the installed lan card i thought...
 not acording to your ifconfig -- it can be any 0 is usually what it grabs
 not acording to your ifconfig -- it can be any 0 is usually what it grabs
[09:06] <insmod> sorry
 no just prefrences
[09:07] <flowingfire> k..
 what does sudo iwconfig say
[09:08] <flowingfire> lo        no wireless extensions.
[09:08] <flowingfire> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[09:08] <flowingfire> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:""  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"
[09:08] <flowingfire>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid
[09:08] <flowingfire>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[09:08] <flowingfire>           Encryption key:off
[09:08] <flowingfire>           Link Quality=0/100  Signal level=-256 dBm  Noise level=-256 dBm
[09:08] <flowingfire>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[09:08] <flowingfire>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[09:08] <markku> Is there a way to start network automatically without having to click through KNetworkManager every startup?
add an rc.d file
 k what does ifconfig say
 did you tie anything to eth0 before -- that may be the prob
[09:10] <flowingfire> insmod: When I go into the graphical configuration for it, it calls eth1 a "Disabled Wireless Network Device"
[09:10] <Tm_T> !paste | flowingfire
[09:10] <ubotu> flowingfire: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:10] <flowingfire> When I go to enable it, it errors
 never use graphics for a mans job
[09:11] <cr4sh> how do I install kubuntu on a harddrive with existing ntfs partitions (qtparted crashes when it tries to load the drive)
[09:12] <flowingfire> here is ifconfig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25066/
 k know that is totally diff eth0 is now running the lan card
 get rid of all the other stuff in interfaces -- keep wlan0 -- did you ever edit the ndiswrapper file ?
 and is it the recomended driver off the site or off the cd
[09:15] <flowingfire> i'm using the driver from linksys for this exact model for windows
[09:15] <flowingfire> bt it simply won't enable
[09:15] <flowingfire> weird
[09:15] <flowingfire> their website.... .inf file...
 that's why
[09:16] <flowingfire> ack.
[09:16] <flowingfire> i dunno what else there is
 ndiswrapper uses based off chipset
 what kind is it again
[09:16] <flowingfire> ???
[09:17] <flowingfire> So how do i get this working to begin with? i don't get it.... i couldn't find any native driver, so I downloaded the windows one.... then I used ndiswrapper to make it work... and it doesn't work.. lol
 you need the working win driver with ndis -- not all work
 you need to get it off there site
[09:18] <flowingfire> do they have an ndis driver
 of course
[09:19] <flowingfire> ... all I see is drivers... nothing labeled ndis
 on the ndis site
 are you like brand new
[09:21] <flowingfire> uggh sorry sort of... if you consider months new brand new...
 ya i do
[09:21] <flowingfire> I have the x-server and xorg.conf mastered.... lol.... not this
[09:21] <kraut> moin
[09:21] <flowingfire> and that's fun to edit
 lol
[09:32] <DemonSamurai> how do i convert an .rpm into a .deb file?
[09:32] <dewey> hmmm use alien
[09:32] <DemonSamurai> yes but how exactly
[09:32] <DemonSamurai> i installed it
[09:33] <DemonSamurai> and i used alien -d name.rpm
[09:33] <DemonSamurai> dewey?
[09:34] <vip3rousmango> anyone know of a general ubuntu chat chan, rather than support/help?
[09:42] <DemonSamurai> anyone can help me about alien?
[09:45] <crimsun> specifically?
[09:52] <nullkuhl> rxvt-unicode
[09:53] <Tm_T> nullkuhl: hum?
[09:54] <nullkuhl> sryy .. what is xterm and wat is rxvt ?
[09:54] <Tm_T> both are graphical terminal emulators
[09:54] <Tm_T> shortly, shell or terminal
[09:56] <mattsqz> fotoflo: beryl? :)
[09:57] <fotoflo> beryl?
[09:57] <mattsqz> yes
[09:57] <jzilla> im guessing thats a no
[09:57] <jzilla> heh
[09:58] <mattsqz> http://video.google.com/videosearch?um=1&tab=wv&client=firefox-a&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=beryl
[09:58] <fotoflo> googling
[09:58] <Tm_T> fotoflo: hmm, check your hotkey settings
[09:59] <Tm_T> fotoflo: it's KDE, you can control it ;)
[10:00] <fotoflo> there is now way to do this with kde?
[10:00] <jzilla> fotoflo: run kcontrol from a term
[10:00] <fotoflo> Tm_T, where would those hotkeys be located?
[10:00] <faidillinger> compiz rocks
[10:00] <jzilla> then look for "Regional & Accessibilty"
[10:00] <jzilla> Keyboard Shortcuts will be found there.
[10:00] <fotoflo> cool
[10:01] <Tm_T> hmm, I thought system settings have search function
[10:01] <jzilla> kcontrol has a search box at the top
[10:01] <fotoflo> wow
[10:01] <Tm_T> hmm, so does systemsettings
[10:01] <mattsqz> beryl with kde? defenitely
[10:01] <fotoflo> they do
[10:02] <Tm_T> search function <3
[10:02] <movieguy> hi
[10:02] <Tm_T> fotoflo: got it?
[10:03] <movieguy> i ran an adept system update earlier today and now after i've rebooted kdm just keeps restarting instead of going into xwindows
[10:03] <movieguy> even when i try safemod
[10:03] <movieguy> e
[10:04] <DemonSamurai> anyon can help with ATI drivers?
[10:04] <Tm_T> movieguy: check grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:05] <Tm_T> DemonSamurai: nope if you can't specify your problem
[10:05] <Tm_T> !ati | DemonSamurai
[10:05] <ubotu> DemonSamurai: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:05] <DemonSamurai> !ati
[10:05] <BadRobot> hi there is there any good compressing applications to convert files from zip to tar
[10:05] <BadRobot> ?
[10:06] <movieguy> Tm_T: what's that suppose to tell me?
[10:06] <Tm_T> movieguy: grep EE will show only lines containing EE from your X log, EE lines are mostly errors
[10:07] <movieguy> ah
[10:07] <Tm_T> so, if your X is broken, it hopefully tells how
[10:07] <Tm_T> you know "doesn't work" isn't very accurate ;)
[10:08] <movieguy> grep didn't return crap
[10:08] <movieguy> nothing useful anyways
[10:08] <movieguy> just the line that tells you EE is error
[10:09] <movieguy> i'm gonna install ircii so i can paste stuff
[10:09] <G3NESIS> !Ipod
[10:09] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[10:09] <fotoflo> cool
[10:09] <fotoflo> hmm dont like the walkthrough desktops
[10:09] <fotoflo> i liked the fact that my desktops were in a 3x3 grid in gnome
[10:09] <fotoflo> cant change that can i?
[10:11] <douglett> in console form
[10:12] <nullkuhl> guys wat is xterm and rxvt
[10:13] <crimsun> nullkuhl: two terminal emulators
[10:13] <nullkuhl> wat is the use of terminal emulators then ?
[10:13] <crimsun> well, as you might surmise from the phrase, they are used to emulate certain families of terminals.
[10:14] <movieguy> hmm
[10:14] <ninHer> hi all
[10:14] <crimsun> essentially, they provide a friendly shell-based command line interface
[10:14] <louis_> WOOHOO! xgl is rollin!
[10:14] <fotoflo> wow kde is SO much better then gnome
[10:14] <louis_> anybody know if fluxbox and xgl can work together?
[10:14] <movieguy> i tried doing apt-get -u dist-upgrade but that didn't help
[10:14] <louis_> fotoflo, amen!
[10:15] <fotoflo> i think its still got its problems, but gnome didnt even have specific graphics drivers for my intel onboard video
[10:15] <douglett> 
[10:16] <douglett> > Warning:          Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but <RALT> has 2 symbols
[10:16] <douglett> >                   Ignoring extra symbols
[10:16] <douglett> > Error:            bad length in CompatMap
[10:16] <douglett> >                   Output file "/var/tmp/server-0.xkm" removed
[10:16] <douglett> that's what i get when i try to do startx from console
[10:16] <fotoflo> gnome till does multiple desktops better, in my opinion
[10:16] <douglett> well that's the tail end of it
[10:16] <louis_> anybody know if fluxbox and xgl are compatible?
[10:16] <mattsqz> man, i really wish ark had a start to finish meter instead of just a little bouncing "busy" bar
[10:17] <crimsun> louis_: they are, but what you intend to do may not be.
[10:18] <douglett> should i just apt-get install kdm over again? i'm pretty frustrated and nothing seems to be working
[10:20] <douglett> nm
[10:20] <douglett> any suggestions?
[10:20] <douglett> i'd hate to reinstall after all the configurations i've already done but nothing seems to be working
[10:22] <ardchoille> douglett: What is the problem?
[10:23] <douglett> i did an system update with adept earlier today
[10:23] <douglett> i just rebooted like 15mins ago and now i can't get into xwindows
[10:23] <douglett> it goes to the kdm login screen and when i login nothing happens
[10:24] <douglett> it tries, and then takes me right back to the login screen
[10:24] <douglett> it's the x login screen (not the console one)
[10:24] <ardchoille> douglett: Also, if youput all those "configurations" into a bash script, then reinstalling is fast and easy. I have all configs in a master script that I run and the system is configured (after a new install) while I go have lunch :)
[10:25] <douglett> well to be honest i'd hate to reinstall
[10:25] <douglett> everything has been working great for months
[10:25] <louis_> darn modem...
[10:25] <louis_> anybody know if fluxbox is compatible with xgl?
[10:25] <louis_> i'm not sure how these things work
[10:25] <douglett> there was some sort of error when adept was doing it's thing but i just figured it was a bad package so i didn't pay much attention to it
[10:26] <douglett> i had no idea i wouldn't be able to boot back into xwindows
[10:26] <ardchoille> douglett: I'd like to check something, you with me?
[10:26] <douglett> i tried doing an apt-get update, apt-get -u upgrade  and it didn't do anything
[10:26] <douglett> sure
[10:27] <douglett> anything productive, that is
[10:27] <G3NESIS> !Ipod
[10:27] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[10:28] <ardchoille> douglett: ctrl+alt+f1, log in and do: ls -la .*authority
[10:28] <ardchoille> douglett: See if root owns either of those files.
[10:30] <tahsin> can anyone help me with KBFX ?
[10:31] <tahsin> ?
[10:31] <douglett> hmm
[10:31] <douglett> shit
[10:31] <douglett> okay
[10:31] <nullkuhl> guys how to have a colored syntax and so on in a terminal ?
[10:31] <tahsin> i cant change the KBFX theme
[10:31] <movieguy> .ICEauthority and .Xauthority came up
[10:32] <tahsin> who do i change it
[10:32] <movieguy> - douglett
[10:32] <movieguy> -
[10:32] <movieguy> <-
[10:32] <louis_> any of you guys know wheter or not i can run fluxbox and beryl/emerald/xgl at the same time?
[10:33] <nullkuhl> guys how to have a colored syntax and so on in a terminal ?
[10:33] <tahsin> anyone to help ?
[10:33] <douglett> what was the point of that?
[10:33] <nullkuhl> ?
[10:33] <douglett> not you
[10:34] <douglett> --color btw
[10:34] <ardchoille> douglett: The point was to see if root owns either of those files, which can cause the problem you're saying you have.
[10:34] <louis_> I guess nobody  knows...
[10:34] <douglett> root doesn't
[10:34] <ardchoille> douglett: Ownership of those files can sometimes be changed to root if you use sudo to launch a gui app instead of using kdesu.
[10:34] <douglett> it's my username
[10:35] <ardchoille> douglett: Ok, but it was worth checking on.
[10:35] <douglett> -rw------- 1 douglett douglett 0 2007-06-11 03:49 .ICEauthority
[10:35] <douglett> -rw------- 1 douglett douglett 0 2007-06-11 04:05 .Xauthority
[10:35] <ardchoille> That's the way it should be, so that isn't the problem.
[10:35] <douglett> ya
[10:36] <douglett> i'm exactly new to linux, but i'm stumped nevertheless
[10:36] <ardchoille> douglett: You might try: cat ~/.xsession-errors   and see if it gives any info
[10:36] <douglett> should i send u the xorg log file?
[10:36] <ardchoille> douglett: You can pastebin it
[10:37] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[10:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:37] <douglett> it's blank
[10:37] <douglett> cool
[10:37] <douglett> okay
[10:37] <douglett> hmm
[10:37] <douglett> looks like i have to install link
[10:37] <ardchoille> douglett: You're xorg.conf is blank?!
[10:38] <douglett> i had no idea i wouldn't be able to boot back into xwindowshaha
[10:38] <douglett> no man
[10:38] <douglett> the .xsession-errors is blank
[10:38] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[10:38] <douglett> the console browser is called link right?
[10:39] <douglett> it's been so long i can't remember
[10:39] <douglett> hm
[10:39] <douglett> frick
[10:39] <ardchoille> There are a few: links, lynx, elinks, etc. I use elinks.
[10:39] <douglett> ah ha
[10:39] <douglett> lynx
[10:39] <douglett> that's it
[10:40] <douglett> i'll give elinks a try
[10:40] <douglett> i must say, there's something about being in console that makes a man feel leet
[10:40] <opengplux> :)
[10:41] <ardchoille> douglett: If you're going to be working in a console, you might look into using screen. You can use screen to have several windows in one tty. I often use screen + irssi (chat) + elinks + mutt (email) and don't even have xorg running.
[10:42] <douglett> dang
[10:42] <ardchoille> My xorg broke last month and I was like "pffft, I'll fix it next week" and I went back to chatting in this channel :)
[10:42] <Gharbeia> Hi, Ihave no trouble roaming with open and WPA wireless, but not WEP. How can Imake WEPwork? In KNetworkManager, it never goes beyond "configuring"
[10:43] <movieguy> ardchoille: it's cool man
[10:43] <movieguy> i have my labtop right next to me
[10:45] <douglett> douglett2 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:45] <douglett> dammit
[10:46] <douglett> q
[10:47] <jjjj> hello guys...
[10:48] <haiyah> hi my /var/log/mysql.log is building up like 900mb now.. where can i set it to be gzipped automatically? its taking up my / diskspace
[10:49] <jjjj> hello i installed kubuntu feisty and i was really confused why I cant install firefox using ad/remove programs...other programs are also grayed and unselectable...it seems that the cd as well as my installation doesn't contain the packages...is this normal?
[10:50] <douglett2> how do u view the paste log?
[10:51] <jzilla> jjjj: sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:51] <jzilla> run that in konsole
[10:51] <jjjj> apt-get as well as dpkg doesn't work...
[10:51] <jzilla> hmm..
[10:52] <tahsin> why does KBFX config say INVALID BASE PATH ?
[10:52] <douglett> i think i pissed the website off
[10:53] <jjjj> uhmm one thing, I installed kubuntu not by using a CD but by copying the installer to the harddrive then editing my previous grub options to boot in the casper/initrd images...does that affect how my programs installed?
[10:53] <jjjj> hello i installed kubuntu feisty and i was really confused why I cant install firefox using ad/remove programs...other programs are also grayed and unselectable...it seems that the cd as well as my installation doesn't contain the packages...is this normal? uhmm one thing, I installed kubuntu not by using a CD but by copying the installer to the harddrive then editing my previous grub options to boot in the casper/initrd images...does that affect how my programs i
[10:55] <douglett> q
[10:55] <douglett> gr
[10:57] <waltercool> hi there... someone?
[10:57] <JohnFlux> jjjj: go to Settings->Repositories
[10:57] <JohnFlux> jjjj: and turn on everything
[10:57] <JohnFlux> waltercool: nobody here :-D
[10:57] <waltercool> xDDD
[10:57] <waltercool> JohnFlux: An question... how is kubuntu??
[10:58] <JohnFlux> waltercool: still trying to achieve sentience
[10:58] <waltercool> JohnFlux: Im using  Sabayon and make something takes too time (installing), how is kubuntu in that?
[10:59] <jjjj> I have no internet connection for now at my kubuntu pc...I just want to know if i do need first to connect to the internet before i can install firefox, krita, and even the games, OR the LIVE CD already contains them?
[10:59] <waltercool> JohnFlux: Or... what difference exists between adept and portage?
[11:01] <JohnFlux> waltercool: everything is already compiled in (k)ubuntu
[11:01] <douglett> argh
[11:01] <waltercool> JohnFlux: But works like portage? (install type)
[11:01] <JohnFlux> waltercool: mostly
[11:02] <haiyah> hi my /var/log/mysql.log is building up like 900mb now.. where can i set it to be gzipped automatically? its taking up my / diskspace
[11:02] <waltercool> wow... cool, i need buy a cd and i will test kubuntu :)
[11:02] <waltercool> im a KDE friend xD and i dont like too much mixed kde-gnome distros xD
[11:04] <JohnFlux> haiyah: look at /etc/logrotate
[11:04] <JohnFlux> haiyah: look at /etc/logrotate.conf
[11:06] <douglett> okay
[11:06] <douglett> it's pasted
[11:07] <douglett> the tail end of it anyhow, probably the only thing that's uuseful
[11:07] <douglett> everything beforehand was just (**) and (II)
[11:08] <mato> _
[11:08] <mato> hei
[11:08] <mato> Mitenk saisin tan nappiksen suomen kieliseks
[11:08] <mato> hallooo
[11:08] <ardchoille> Hello, which language is that?
[11:09] <mato> hi
[11:09] <mato> I speak finnish
[11:09] <pag> !fi | mato
[11:09] <ubotu> mato: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[11:09] <mato> ok
[11:09] <jzilla> gl mato!
[11:10] <mato> How I can swith my keyboard language_
[11:10] <douglett2> should i also post the console msg i get when i try to use startx?
[11:11] <missmolotov> hi, where do i need to look in kubutnu to disable a repository?
[11:11] <jzilla> synaptic
[11:11] <jzilla> via k-menu > system
[11:12] <missmolotov> i don't seem to have that :/
[11:12] <jzilla> then i dunno
[11:12] <douglett> posted
[11:12] <jzilla> you could get it if you'd like
[11:12] <missmolotov> hmm gay
[11:13] <missmolotov> can i get it with adept?
[11:13] <jzilla> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[11:13] <missmolotov> thanks, much appericated :)
[11:14] <jzilla> once you have that
[11:14] <jzilla> fire it up and go to Settings > Repositories
[11:14] <missmolotov> uhuh, got that isntalled now
[11:15] <douglett> any ideas?
[11:16] <douglett2>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:19] <missmolotov> any idea where restricted drivers manger is?
[11:20] <pag> missmolotov, it's not included in Kubuntu afaik.
[11:20] <jzilla> sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[11:20] <missmolotov> ah, thank you
[11:21] <jzilla> had the same problem like 10 hours ago ;o
[11:22] <berges> hey i need help! Amarok doesnt open on my system!
[11:22] <jzilla> does it give you an error?
[11:22] <berges> no it just doesnt open
[11:22] <jzilla> launch it from a term
[11:22] <berges> it shows the amaork icon near the cursor but nothin happens after tht
[11:22] <jzilla> see if you get an error
[11:23] <berges> there is no error message at all
[11:23] <berges> term as in??
[11:23] <jzilla> konsole
[11:23] <berges> oh kk
[11:23] <berges> what do i type?? i am pretty new to linux
[11:23] <jzilla> amarok
[11:24] <berges> no effect
[11:25] <jzilla> do you have the system tray icon by chance?
[11:25] <berges> nope
[11:25] <berges> its not on the system tray
[11:25] <mattsqz> bahahahaha
[11:25] <mattsqz> MCSe: minesweeper consultant & solitaire expert
[11:27] <douglett2> should i just apt-get install kde?
[11:27] <jzilla> i didnt claim to like iether
[11:27] <sivaji> i cant burn mp3 files
[11:27] <mattsqz> osx = bsd
[11:27] <sivaji> it says unsupported format
[11:27] <mattsqz> windows = based on crappy os purchased from seattle computers in early 80's
[11:27] <berges> @jzilla wat seems to be the problem i cannot understand!
[11:28] <waltercool> QDos
[11:28] <berges> windows is bad i agree
[11:28] <berges> but not so bad
[11:28] <jzilla> berges: i dunno buddy, no error from a konsole = me stumped
[11:28] <jzilla> im kinda new as well
[11:28] <berges> hmm!
[11:28] <sivaji> i cant burn mp3 files  it says unsupported format
[11:28] <jzilla> sivaji:
[11:28] <jzilla> did it list a package you needed?
[11:28] <waltercool> mmm
[11:28] <mattsqz> windows would be less bad if it wasnt crippled by microsoft's legal department
[11:28] <berges> it opens mp3 in other players like audacious and stuff but not amarok
[11:28] <berges> no it didnt say anything of the sought!
[11:29] <sivaji> jzilla u r asking me ?
[11:29] <jzilla> sivaji: yeah
[11:30] <sivaji> jzilla ya i can see mp3 files which i need to burn ,but when i drag and  drop it says unsupported format
[11:30] <jzilla> in k3b?
[11:30] <sivaji> ya
[11:30] <jzilla> sudo apt-get install libk3b2 libk3b2-mp3
[11:30] <jzilla> try that
[11:30] <sivaji> cant i make a audio cd with mp3 files
[11:31] <sivaji> jzilla ok wait
[11:31] <berges> hey how do i get a account on freenode!
[11:31] <berges> since i cant send pvt messages it tells me!
[11:31] <berges> where do i go?
[11:31] <jzilla> google freenode
[11:31] <pag> berges, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[11:32] <jzilla> pag wins!
[11:32] <pag> jzilla, :-)
[11:32] <berges> it takes me to the FAQ page
[11:33] <jzilla> sivaji: did you get those ?
[11:34] <opengplux> ??
[11:34] <pag> berges, you should read that FAQ at some point, but the easiest way to register is to type: /msg nickserv register <your-password>
[11:35] <sivaji> jzilla ya installed those package , now i cant open k3b
[11:35] <jzilla> heh
[11:35] <jzilla> uh
[11:35] <jzilla> http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html
[11:36] <douglett2> !pastebin
[11:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:37] <sivaji> jzilla what for u gave that link
[11:38] <douglett2> anyone have any ideas?
[11:38] <sivaji> jzilla ok now what happent to my k3b now
[11:38] <sivaji> douglett2 on what
[11:38] <_4strO> douglett2: idea on ?
[11:38] <douglett2> i ran an adept system update earlier today and now after i've rebooted kdm just keeps restarting instead of going into xwindows
[11:39] <jzilla> sivaji: follow that walkthrough, and then grab k3b, libk3b2, and libk3b2-mp3 again
[11:39] <douglett2> i get to the login screen and i login and it just goes back to the login screen
[11:39] <_4strO> mmm
[11:40] <douglett2> i've already posted the error stuff to pastebin
[11:40] <_4strO> did you try a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ?
[11:40] <_4strO> (with sudo for each)
[11:40] <douglett2> yes
[11:40] <douglett2> i did apt-get update, apt-get -u dist-uppgrade
[11:40] <douglett2> -p
[11:41] <douglett2> and apt-get upgrade
[11:41] <douglett2> i've also done apt-get install kdm, and kde
[11:41] <_4strO> lol ok
[11:42] <douglett2> i
[11:42] <douglett2> 'm about ready to try installing gnome
[11:42] <_4strO> mmm
[11:43] <_4strO> douglett2: have a look in /var/log/kdm.log
[11:44] <douglett2> looking at it now
[11:44] <douglett2> xkbcomp has lot of errorss
[11:44] <douglett2> i guess
[11:44] <_4strO> no pb
[11:45] <_4strO> i had those errors too
[11:45] <_4strO> not many only two lines
[11:45] <_4strO> but it say Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
[11:45] <douglett2> yeah same here
[11:45] <_4strO> nothing more ?
[11:46] <douglett2> the last line may be of some use though
[11:46] <_4strO> another usefull test is to try to wonnect with another user account
[11:46] <_4strO> QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image
[11:46] <Tm_T> douglett: you don't need to msg me
[11:47] <_4strO> that's the last line for me
[11:47] <douglett> FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
[11:47] <dvm> how can we get the serial no of use/flash drive?
[11:48] <douglett> okay..
[11:48] <_4strO> douglett: try to connect with another account
[11:49] <_4strO> ( sudo adduser userName to create a new one)
[11:50] <douglett2> k
[11:50] <sivaji> !beryl
[11:50] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:50] <dvm> how can we get the serial no of use/flash drive?
[11:51] <_4strO> !google uuid
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google uuid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <douglett2> no dice
[11:51] <douglett2> same thing happened
[11:52] <_4strO> :/
[11:53] <epimeth> is the medibunto repo down?
[11:54] <pag> epimeth, looks like it.
[11:54] <epimeth> cool
[11:54] <epimeth> cheers
[11:54] <jzilla> i just got an update list from them ;\
[11:54] <epimeth> no fair... I want it too! :-p
[11:54] <douglett2> garrr
[11:55] <epimeth> oh! I know that sound well... what up douglett2?
[11:55] <douglett2> Tm_T: no suggestions?
 i ran an adept system update earlier today and now after i've rebooted kdm just keeps restarting instead of going into xwindows
 i get to the login screen and i login and it just goes back to the login screen
 i've already posted the error stuff to pastebin
 i did apt-get update, apt-get -u dist-uppgrade
[11:56] <_4strO> douglett2: adresse of the post ?
 and apt-get upgrade
 i've also done apt-get install kdm, and kde
[11:56] <epimeth> so... I added another wallpaper to /usr/share/wallpapers and created a .desktop file for it... how do I tell System Settings to reload the data?
[11:56] <douglett2> i have no idea
[11:56] <douglett2> i posted it
[11:56] <_4strO> lol
[11:56] <douglett2> how to access the post, i'm not sure
[11:56] <douglett2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25076/
[11:57] <douglett2> could this be it?
[11:57] <douglett2> ah ha
[11:57] <epimeth> probably... checking now
[11:57] <douglett2> yes
[11:57] <douglett2> epimeth: oh yeah, i also tried adding a new user
[11:59] <epimeth> hrm... have you tried googling "bad length in CompatMap" ?
[11:59] <epimeth> and have you tried reconfiguring X?
[11:59] <douglett2> nope
[12:00] <douglett2> i forgot the command :(
[12:00] <pag> epimeth, try replacing your medibuntu line in sources.list with that: deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free
[12:00] <epimeth> pag: what?  they finally decided to *ghasp* purchase a domain?
[12:01] <epimeth> pag: is it the same for deb-src as well?
[12:01] <pag> epimeth, yeah.
[12:02] <douglett2> the tailend of xorg.0.log file is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25079/
[12:02] <mattsqz> YES!!
[12:02] <mattsqz> kde is starting on my nokia 770! finally!
[12:02] <epimeth> pag... nope... still get a 404?
[12:03] <sivaji> i can burn only 20 mp3 files in 700mb disk but in windows i can burn upto 78 mp3 files what's wrong here
[12:03] <epimeth> pag: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/fesity/dists/free/non-fre/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[12:03] <pag> epimeth, eh?
[12:03] <epimeth> haha... non-fre
[12:03] <mattsqz> woooot it works
[12:03] <sivaji> epimeth say my question any idea
[12:04] <epimeth> sivaji: <yoda voice>size matters not, hrm?</yoda voice>
[12:05] <sivaji> epimeth i cant get u
[12:05] <epimeth> sivaji: it is quality, not quantity. my friend... I have an mp3 that *is* like 700mb by itself
[12:05] <epimeth> sivaji: how big are the mp3s?
[12:05] <sivaji> just 5minutes or 6minutes
[12:05] <epimeth> pag: actually... non-free didn't work, either?
[12:06] <epimeth> pag: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/fesity/dists/free/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[12:06] <pag> epimeth, wait a sec, I'll pastebin those lines from my sources.list
[12:07] <epimeth> why is it going to /free/non-free ?  something is buggy here....
[12:07] <_4strO> same as epimeth
[12:07] <epimeth> _4strO: ironically enough, I wrote fesity instead of feisty... but the error still stands :-)
[12:07] <_4strO> :p
[12:07] <pag> epimeth, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25080/
[12:07] <epimeth> sivaji: you understand?
[12:08] <sivaji> epimeth ya but not satisfied
[12:08] <_4strO> douglett2: to reconfigure X think it's dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:08] <_4strO> or something like this
[12:08] <epimeth> ooohhhhh.... lolol... fesity free non-free... not /feisty free non-free
[12:08] <epimeth> haha
[12:08] <sivaji> epimeth u r a  operator right ?
[12:09] <epimeth> nope, just your average run-o-the-mill lurker
[12:09] <sivaji> epimeth then dev
[12:09] <douglett2> nope
[12:09] <epimeth> sivaji: I'm a developer, yes... but not a k/ubuntu dev
[12:10] <sivaji> !CrossOver Linux
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <epimeth> pag: cheers, btw... worked like a charm ;-)
[12:10] <sivaji> epimeth then body dev
[12:10] <epimeth> not that there are any upgrades... I kinda miss the daily updates
[12:11] <sivaji> !CrossOver
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <pag> epimeth, I'm happy to hear that it worked:)
[12:11] <epimeth> sivaji: wha?
[12:11] <sivaji> epimeth crossover
[12:11] <epimeth> sivaji: what about it?
[12:11] <sivaji> epimeth it allows linux to run windows
[12:11] <douglett2> i tried sudo dpkg --configure xserver-xorg but that said it was already installed and configured
[12:11] <sivaji> epimeth http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxoffice/
[12:11] <epimeth> sivaji: http://www.codeweavers.com
[12:12] <douglett2> should i be looking at xorg.conf?
[12:12] <epimeth> sivaji: not exactly... it allows you to run windows binaries from with linux
[12:12] <_4strO> dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:12] <epimeth> sivaji: kind of like ies4linux
[12:12] <epimeth> ~ies4linux
[12:12] <epimeth> !ies4linux
[12:12] <ubotu> ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, dont use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[12:13] <flake> on my desktop, a binary executable file shows as a gear and when I click, it asks me what program I want to 'launch' it with and brings up a list, but in terminal i can do a ./program to run it.  How can I change it to execute from the gui?
[12:13] <flake> properties say it is an executable and owner can read/write, group can read, and others can read
[12:14] <douglett2> epimeth: this is the best that i got from google (http://mandrivausers.org/lofiversion/index.php/t33102.html)
[12:14] <douglett2> and that poor fool had to reformat/reinstall
[12:15] <epimeth> douglett2, sivaji: sorry, but I gotta leave you for a bit... my whole office seems to be dying of hunger and I'm the only one not standing yet... I'll be back in ~45 mins
[12:15] <sivaji> epimeth i got mozillla-firefox latest version still i cant do live webcam chat in some websites y?
[12:16] <sivaji> epimeth ok will  be here
[12:16] <sivaji> epimeth i says u dont have latest vesion software u need to install firefox 2
[12:16] <sivaji> epimeth it says u dont have latest vesion software u need to install firefox 2
[12:17] <douglett2> remind me to never update my system ever again
[12:24] <flake> now it's working, I unchecked the 'executable' and rechecked it, now everything in the folder executes apparently
[12:26] <smile> hi
[12:27] <smile> i want mae  we site with a ftp option .. should i use pure_ftprd ou proftd ???????????
[12:27] <smile> want make (not mae we)!
[12:27] <_4strO> smile: none of them is needed
[12:28] <_4strO> you wana make a website ?
[12:28] <smile> _4strO: ya .. i need  a ftp serer too
[12:28] <_4strO> vsftp
[12:29] <smile> _4strO: better then them two ?
[12:29] <_4strO> i prefer ...
[12:30] <fotoflo> hmm, i did a sudo apt-get install beryl,  how do i turn it on now?
[12:30] <main2> after using 'suspend' (or standby.. however you wanne name it), i cant access VT (terminal via ctrl+alt+f1   -> f12)
[12:30] <smile> _4strO: easy to use with php mysql & apache ?
[12:30] <main2> anyone experienced this?
[12:30] <_4strO> fotoflo: in a terminal : beryl-manager
[12:31] <smile> _4strO: it has a grafical administartion inteface ?
[12:31] <douglett2> noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[12:31] <douglett2> gdm is doing the same crap
[12:31] <_4strO> smile: nop
[12:31] <douglett2> :(
[12:31] <_4strO> douglett2: :/
[12:32] <_4strO> what did you install at last ?
[12:32] <douglett2> nothing!
[12:32] <douglett2> i did a system update with adept
[12:32] <sivaji> !skype
[12:32] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:33] <zipper> Anyone managed to find a way to use ALL buttons on a logitech MX510 or MX518 mouse? I cant seem to find any good guides for it on the web
[12:33] <_4strO> douglett2: that's weird
[12:33] <sivaji> anyone know what is skype
[12:33] <douglett2> there was an error in one of the packages (i can't remember which), i rebooted hours later, and boom--no xwindows for me
[12:33] <_4strO> sivaji: yes
[12:33] <douglett2> finger snap, bag snatch
[12:33] <sivaji> _4strO tell meple
[12:33] <sivaji> _4strO tell me ple
[12:33] <_4strO> sivaji: google is your friend ...
[12:34] <douglett2> i've no installed gnome and i can't even boot into that
[12:34] <sivaji>  Added _4strO!* to your ignore list
[12:34] <douglett2> i'm wondering if maybe the problem might reside in xorg.conf
[12:34] <_4strO> sivaji: ...
[12:35] <_4strO> douglett2: i think your problem is link with X server
[12:35] <mattsqz> aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh this is so cool
[12:35] <mattsqz> full-fledged kde 3.5.6 on my handheld :D
[12:35] <_4strO> :p
[12:36] <douglett2> _4strO: what package does that fall under?
[12:36] <_4strO> dont understand
[12:39] <_4strO> douglett2: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:39] <_4strO> that's the one :)
[12:45] <douglett2> what's 256mgs in kbs?
[12:45] <douglett2> 1024*256?
[12:45] <opengplux> ...
[12:45] <pawitp> 262144
[12:45] <sivaji2009> !ext3
[12:46] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[12:46] <pawitp> or 256000 in harddisk manufacturor's language
[12:46] <anipy> hello. i use kubuntu 7.04. i need to extend my screen to a second monitor since my LCD blacks out. so i use System Settings > Montior & Display. but after switching to administrator mode the "Apply" button is still de-activated, so i can't save my changes. any idea what's wrong?
[12:48] <sivaji2009> "http://www.fs-driver.org/ " anyone able to view this page i cant see this page in my browser mozilla-firefox
[12:48] <jussi01> works for me...
[12:49] <opengplux> .
[12:50] <opengplux> .
[12:50] <opengplux> sa
[12:51] <douglett2> _4strO: no lucj
[12:51] <douglett2> luck
[12:51] <opengplux> .
[12:51] <opengplux> s
[12:51] <opengplux> das
[12:51] <douglett2> this is so ridiculous
[12:51] <douglett2> i don't even know what caused the problem to begin with
[12:51] <zipper> no offence, but my guess is... you :)
[12:51] <zipper> what seems to be the problem?
[12:51] <opengplux> .
[12:51] <opengplux> /
[12:52] <sivaji2009> jussi01 it works in knoqueror but i could see only empty page in mozilla firefox
[12:53] <sivaji2009> !realplayer
[12:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:53] <douglett2> zipper: i hate your face
[12:53] <sivaji2009> !info  realplayer
[12:53] <ubotu> Package realplayer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:53] <zipper> douglett2: lol
[12:53] <douglett2> all i did was an adept system update
[12:53] <zipper> douglett2: don't expect to get any help for me then.
[12:54] <zipper> from
[12:54] <opengplux> .
[12:54] <douglett2> there was an error--which i didn't pay much attention to at the time because i figured it was irrelevant
[12:54] <douglett2> i went about my business and rebooted hours later
[12:54] <douglett2> now i get to the x login screen and goto login and it just takes me right back to the login screen
[12:55] <douglett2> i've been in this channel for about 5 hours now and nobody has any ideas what's causing the problem
[12:56] <jussi01> douglett2: it might be just a full hdd. is this possible?
[12:56] <douglett2> i've tried creating a new user, installing kde again, installing kdm, installing gnome/gdm, reconfiguring x--none of which helped
[12:57] <douglett2> jussi01: maybe
[12:57] <douglett2> how do i check that from the command line?
[12:57] <jussi01> and have you checked your swap is working?
[12:57] <douglett2> no
[12:57] <douglett2> i have a swap setup
[12:58] <douglett2> but i don't know how to check to see if it's working
[12:58] <_4strO> douglett2: perhaps you dont have enough free space
[12:58] <jussi01> hmmm, what happens when you boot into recovery mode?
[12:58] <_4strO> is that possible ?
[12:58] <douglett2> it's worth mentioning that i've been running this for several months
[12:58] <douglett2> same thing
[12:58] <douglett2> u mean failsafe, right?
[12:58] <_4strO> douglett2: df -h ?
[12:58] <_4strO> enough space ?
[12:58] <_4strO> on /
[12:59] <sivaji2009> douglett2 sudo swapon -s
[12:59] <douglett2> ah ha
[01:00] <douglett2> i think my hd is full
[01:00] <_4strO> ^^
[01:00] <douglett2> in fact i'm pretty damn sure that's must be it
[01:00] <_4strO> :) it will explain the adept error, and the fact you cant log into kde
[01:00] <douglett> douglett@Cornelius:/etc/X11$ df -h
[01:00] <douglett> Filesystem    Type    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[01:01] <douglett>   /dev/hdb6     ext3     48G   46G     0 100% /
[01:01] <_4strO> ^^
[01:01] <jussi01> :D
[01:01] <_4strO> that's the answer
[01:01] <douglett> douglett@Cornelius:/etc/X11$ sudo swapon -s
[01:01] <douglett> Filename                                Type            Size    Used    Priority/dev/hdb7                               partition       1052216 0       -1
[01:01] <jussi01> douglett: uninstall some stuff :D
[01:01] <_4strO> or just delete
[01:01] <zipper> Anyone managed to find a way to use ALL buttons on a logitech MX510 or MX518 mouse? I cant seem to find any good guides for it on the web
[01:01] <douglett2> the pr0n strikes back
[01:02] <jussi01> _4strO:  but then he has to empty trash... easier to uninstall
[01:02] <douglett2> i'm in console
[01:02] <douglett2> slick
[01:02] <_4strO> jussi01: not if you rm -rf
[01:03] <jussi01> _4strO: true...
[01:03] <_4strO> douglett2: type in a terminal : sudo apt-get clean
[01:03] <_4strO> and log in
[01:04] <_4strO> apt-get clean will remove the packages in the cache
[01:06] <douglett2> ha ha ha!!!
[01:06] <douglett2> what are the odds..
[01:06] <jussi01> douglett2: ?
[01:06] <douglett2> jussi01, you are my hero
[01:07] <jussi01> :D
[01:07] <jussi01> douglett2: _4strO: helped also...
[01:07] <_4strO> :)
[01:07] <douglett2> yes
[01:07] <douglett2> that's the for the leet command line info
[01:08] <douglett2> er thanks
[01:08] <douglett2> -the
[01:08] <jussi01> :D np's :D
[01:08] <douglett2> although i cant figure out how in the world i managed to install gnome  if my hd was full
[01:08] <douglett2> that was 500mg+ install
[01:08] <_4strO> jussi01: it's when you talked about swap i thought of free space
[01:09] <jussi01> _4strO: I had already suggested it...
[01:09] <douglett2> they really should do something about disk full errors
[01:10] <jussi01> _4strO: [13:56]  <jussi01> douglett2: it might be just a full hdd. is this possible?
[01:10] <jussi01> douglett2: yes... I agree
[01:10] <douglett2> something so freaking simple shouldn't be so complicated to figure out
[01:10] <_4strO> jussi01: ho i didn't see it
[01:12] <douglett2> hmm
[01:12] <douglett2> now what was the name of the config file that lets you change gdm to kdm?
[01:13] <st> anyone help me with acer 5920  /bin/sh/:can#t access tty: job control turned off
[01:13] <_4strO> douglett2: dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[01:14] <_4strO> or just sudo apt-get remove gdm ;)
[01:15] <st> anyone help me with acer 5920  /bin/sh/:can#t access tty: job control turned off
[01:15] <Linux_Alien> hi, time to try kubuntu - very impressed, is there a repo that contains tremulous? (can't live without that) :D
[01:17] <douglett2> yes
[01:17] <douglett2> bye bye gdm
[01:18] <Linux_Alien> what? no tremulous players here? :O i am shocked hehe
[01:18] <xerosis> st: is this for the live cd?
[01:18] <douglett2> now i'm getting an error message
[01:18] <st> xerosis: yes
[01:18] <st> live
[01:19] <xerosis> st: have you tried the alternate cd?
[01:19] <douglett2> "there was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. the message returne by the system was: ....
[01:19] <st> yes the cd is fine md5 is ok
[01:19] <douglett2> Could not read network connection list.
[01:19] <st> works on the desktop
[01:19] <xerosis> Linux_Alien: tremulous is in multiverse
[01:19] <douglett2> /home/douglettt/.DCOPserver_Cornelius__0
[01:19] <xerosis> st:i meant the alternate install cd
[01:20] <xerosis> st: there's two
[01:20] <st> ok i can try that
[01:20] <douglett2> Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running!
[01:20] <Linux_Alien> i uncommented universe, i didn't see multiverse
[01:20] <Linux_Alien> thanks, i'll google that :D
[01:21] <st> i thought the hardware is to new for kubuntu knoppix works ... xerosis
[01:21] <douglett2> i ran dcopserver from console to no avail
[01:21] <xerosis> st: knoppix always works :p
[01:22] <st> could i install knoppix and change the sourcelist to feisty??
[01:22] <xerosis> st: fraid not
[01:22] <st> :)
[01:22] <xerosis> st: the alternate cd should work though
[01:22] <st> i try the alternate installer
[01:23] <sercik> hi!
[01:23] <douglett2> any ideas?
[01:23] <sercik> hoe can i mount a folder on another linux pc without samba?
[01:23] <sercik> samba is not stable between linux and linux
[01:23] <hias> Hi
[01:24] <xerosis> sercik: use nfs
[01:24] <sercik> nfs.... uhm..
[01:25] <hias> I've installed wifi-radar and all needed packages, but when I want to start wifi radar over internet--> wifi radar, it doesnt response
[01:25] <douglett2> anyone? anyone?
[01:25] <hias> jo?
[01:25] <xerosis> douglett2: does it happen every boot?
[01:25] <Linux_Alien> xerosis: is this it? deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[01:25] <DJServers> yo
[01:26] <douglett2> dunno, i'm rebooting now
[01:26] <sercik> xeros and to mount i can use mount -t nfs?
[01:26] <sercik> xerosis:  sorry
[01:27] <DJServers> mount is: mount -o loop    for as far i remember
[01:27] <douglett2> xerosis: yes it does
[01:28] <xerosis> Linux_Alien: just check it in adept software properties
[01:28] <DJServers> ehm... how to format one of my harddisks in linux ??
[01:28] <douglett2> i've tried running dcopserver from console and then retrying and that didn't help
[01:28] <Linux_Alien> that multiverse addition added a new version of kubuntu, how come i didn't get that without adding that repo?
[01:28] <xerosis> sercik: install nfs-user-server
[01:29] <xerosis> douglett2: i remember i had some problems so i'll have a look
[01:29] <sercik> xerosis in the pc that shares (now with samba) i need to install nfs server
[01:29] <sercik> and then configure shared directory? ot with nfs it shares all hd?
[01:29] <xerosis> sercik: yep :)
[01:30] <sercik> yep all hd?
[01:30] <xerosis> sercik: whatever you need
[01:31] <sercik> i have a service called netfs on that pc do you think this is what i need?
[01:33] <DJServers> !IRC
[01:33] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[01:33] <DJServers> !server
[01:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[01:33] <DJServers> o....
[01:33] <xerosis> douglett2: try running 'sudo chown yourusername:yourusername ~/.ICEauthority
[01:34] <DJServers> someone nows if there is a IRC server in adept ?
[01:34] <Linux_Alien> xerosis: yeah its updaeing now :D
[01:34] <Linux_Alien> s/updaeing/updating
[01:34] <erz_> hi, i'm lost, my system says my kstartupconfig dont exist since i moved my /home/
[01:36] <beast|lu5t> Hello, can someone help me real quick
[01:36] <erz_> maybe
[01:36] <erz_> =)
[01:36] <douglett2> nevermind
[01:36] <douglett2> i figured it out already
[01:36] <beast|lu5t> I just upgraded ubuntu to kubuntu, not noticing any difference, besides the fact i have new KDE programs and Gnome programs dont work, How do i get the desktop to look like the ones in the screenshots?
[01:36] <douglett2> i moved the .kde directory
[01:37] <douglett2> and tried again and it worked
[01:37] <beast|lu5t> Still looks like plain ubuntu.
[01:37] <douglett2> hopefully i can copy back some of the settings
[01:37] <Linux_Alien> 19% :/
[01:38] <Linux_Alien> this seems like time to get some food going
[01:38] <Linux_Alien> bbiab
[01:38] <DJServers> Can someone help me with installing and setting up my irc-hybrid server?
[01:38] <beast|lu5t> What can I do so my desktop looks the same as the screenshots?
[01:39] <DJServers> Hello??????????????//
[01:39] <DJServers> can someone help me plz ???????????////
[01:40] <_4strO> perhaps you prefer mp3's epimeth ?
[01:40] <_4strO> lol
[01:40] <hias> no
[01:40] <douglett2> thanks for all your help guys
[01:40] <_4strO> !ask | DJServers
[01:40] <ubotu> DJServers: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:40] <DJServers> i askt is 5 times now
[01:40] <_4strO> ha yes sorry
[01:40] <beast|lu5t> dont worry DJ, nobody helps me either :)
[01:40] <_4strO> and you asked few days ago too
[01:41] <DJServers> ... not
[01:41] <erz_> i moved my /home/ to /mnt/home and i want to give back the kstartupconfig with chown user.user -R /mnt/home/user ... and it doesnt work... an idea ?
[01:41] <_4strO> beast|lu5t: sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[01:41] <hias> I've installed wifi-radar and all needed packages, but when I want to start wifi radar over internet--> wifi radar, it doesnt response...there's also no error report
[01:41] <beast|lu5t> i did, thats how i upgraded my ubuntu to kubuntu
[01:41] <Chousuke> DJServers: what exactly is your problem?
[01:41] <beast|lu5t> its still using ubuntu UI or something, looks exactly the same.
[01:42] <beast|lu5t> except kubunto login screen and boot up screen
[01:42] <_4strO> beast|lu5t: in the login page choose a KDE session
[01:42] <DJServers> i just have installed the pak irc-hybird but how to install and config
[01:42] <Chousuke> DJServers: If you want to set up a server, go read the documentation and try doing it yourself first.
[01:42] <DJServers> what documentiation
[01:42] <DJServers> there no
[01:42] <appletizer> does anyone here know which nickname does dennogummi.org belong to? :) i would like to congratulate him on a fine website
[01:42] <Chousuke> DJServers: google for the project's website
[01:42] <epimeth> douglett2, sivaji: you guys still here?  I'm back from eatsing
[01:43] <Chousuke> also, /usr/share/doc/<package_name> often contains documentation
[01:43] <DJServers> damn it sould be helping here normaly it is not now
[01:43] <Chousuke> what?
[01:44] <DJServers> i have search to google alreadyi always do that furst before i ask
[01:45] <hias> I've installed wifi-radar and all needed packages, but when I want to start wifi radar over internet--> wifi radar, it doesnt response...there's also no error report
[01:46] <Chousuke> DJServers: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircd/h7setup.html if you've got the package installed, look at point 8 here
[01:47] <maver1ck> hello
[01:47] <epimeth> hallo maver1ck
[01:48] <Chousuke> DJServers: the config is in /etc/ircd-hybrid/ according to packages.ubuntu.com
[01:48] <zipper> This is mighty wierd. I have 2 soundcards, HDA-Intel and audigy4. At first, my HDA-Intel was set as default, but after a few reboots (not sure what caused it), audigy4 was set as default. But after installing linux-kernel-image-generic, i'm back to using HDA-intel as default.... how do i switch back to audigy?
[01:49] <Chousuke> DJServers: also, /usr/share/doc/ircd-hybrid/ contains examples and README-files
[01:53] <nullkuhl> guys plz help, am tryin to compile latest version of splashy , and i get this error at the end after i type make in its folder(compiling).. : collect2: ld returned 1 exit status. make[1] : *** [splashy]  Error 1. then leaving directory and so on plzz helppp
[01:53] <grul> try sudo
[01:53] <grul> :P
[01:53] <Chousuke> nah
[01:53] <Chousuke> sudo doesn't help with that
[01:53] <nullkuhl> i did
[01:54] <nullkuhl> Chousuke: wat do u think then ?
[01:54] <nullkuhl> i googled but came up with nothing
[01:54] <nullkuhl> plzz help
[01:54] <Chousuke> It's not possible to know by just that error
[01:54] <nullkuhl> wat shall ido then
[01:54] <Chousuke> !pastebin
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[01:54] <nullkuhl> k
[01:54] <nullkuhl> 1 sec
[01:54] <Chousuke> put the rest of the text there.
[01:55] <Chousuke> I'll get coffee so brb
[01:55] <nullkuhl> wat syntax shyd be ?
[01:57] <nullkuhl> Chousuke: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25089/
[01:58] <Chousuke> hm, back
[01:58] <nullkuhl> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25089/
[01:58] <nullkuhl> i included the ./configure reply too
[01:59] <Chousuke> hmm :/
[01:59] <Chousuke> it seems the /usr/bin/ld: attempted static link of dynamic object `/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so' is the problem
[02:00] <Chousuke> I wonder what to do about it.
[02:00] <erz_> is there a solution to debug kstartupconfig in deleting user ?
[02:00] <Chousuke> I don't suppose you can link splashy dynamically either.
[02:02] <nullkuhl> soo ?
[02:02] <nullkuhl> get the deb of the odler version
[02:02] <nullkuhl> older*
[02:02] <Chousuke> why do you want splashy anyway?
[02:02] <nullkuhl> lol
[02:02] <Chousuke> kubuntu has usplash already, doesn't it?
[02:02] <Chousuke> you can set up your own splash screen
[02:03] <erz_> looking for some help to restore my kstartupconfig =)
[02:04] <Chousuke> what's wrong with it?
[02:04] <maver1ck> hey, I've got a problem with Xgl on feisty
[02:04] <erz_> i couldn't start =)
[02:05] <maver1ck> in logout dialog I don't have shutdown / reboot key
[02:05] <erz_> since i copy my /home/ to /mnt/home ( where is mounted hda6 )... kde wont open my session
[02:06] <maver1ck> I already change my script to copy xauth data (advice found in google) but it doesn't work for me
[02:06] <maver1ck> any tip ?
[02:06] <nullkuhl> guys plz help am trying to compile splashy but it failes http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25089/ plzzz helppppppppppp
[02:08] <maver1ck> here is my startxgl script http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25090/
[02:12] <maver1ck> please help
[02:23] <icecruncher> man it's slow here today
[02:28] <soulrider_> hello
[02:28] <soulrider_> what you guys need ?
[02:32] <icecruncher> soulrider_: nothin happenin today
[02:32] <icecruncher> (yet)
[02:32] <soulrider_> yeah
[02:32] <soulrider_> its very quiet in here
[02:33] <icecruncher> down about ~80 ppls I think
[02:41] <sebbar> hi, is there a way to watch smil files on kubuntu?
[02:43] <icecruncher> sebbar: i think Kmplayer
[02:43] <icecruncher> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=9&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kde-apps.org%2Fcontent%2Fshow.php%3Fcontent%3D10004&ei=PUNtRuvmIoe8sAKuz8ClBA&usg=AFQjCNGCcx8ZT9Q6xtmmRd6qhdTWpR7T3Q&sig2=svMZjTV3RRkmQ1Qn3x7H-Q
[02:43] <darkrift_> anyoen here able to help me get a certain ocr program installed?
[02:43] <darkrift_> i tried and ran into roadblocks
[02:43] <icecruncher> sebbar: sorry lol http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=10004
[02:44] <BluesKaj> sebbar , you need the real player plugin for your browser
[02:45] <sebbar> ok, mplayer gives me: Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll whereas with real player somehow I hear the audio but I don't see any video
[02:45] <sivaji> is it possible to open power point document in kubuntu
[02:45] <icecruncher> sivaji: yes, use openoffice
[02:47] <BluesKaj> darkrift_, what program?
[02:47] <sivaji> icecruncher  i cant open office terminates abnormally
[02:47] <darkrift_> ocropus
[02:47] <darkrift_> the page i found has what i think are redhat instructions
[02:48] <darkrift_> $ svn checkout http://ocropus.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ ocropus
[02:48] <darkrift_> # urpmi jam aspell-devel libtiff-devel libpng-devel libjpeg-devel
[02:48] <BluesKaj> is it a game?
[02:48] <darkrift_> $ ./configure; jam
[02:48] <darkrift_> no
[02:48] <darkrift_> optical character recognition
[02:48] <darkrift_> those are the instrucitons to install it
[02:48] <darkrift_> i checked it out
[02:48] <darkrift_> but it is missing some stuff
[02:49] <darkrift_> not sure what the steps to install it would be
[02:49] <icecruncher> sivaji: just a sec
[02:49] <sivaji> icecruncher ok
[02:50] <icecruncher> sebbar: you could try http://www.openmash.org/mhonarc/openmash-users/msg00101.html
[02:52] <icecruncher> sivaji: co you know why oo crashes?
[02:53] <sivaji> icecruncher no idea
[02:54] <darkrift_> hrmmmmm
[02:54] <icecruncher> sivaji: bb in 10 min, sorry
[02:54] <sivaji> icecruncher ok
[02:56] <BluesKaj> darkrift_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/graphics/quiteinsane
[02:58] <_pedro> Hi guys
[02:58] <_pedro> I am having several problems with nvidia driver installation
[02:58] <_pedro> I recently installed nvidia driver from the official web
[02:59] <_pedro> and after that I started X and the configuration of my keyboard is not the one of my language- spanish
[03:00] <_pedro> what can I do?
[03:01] <sivaji> ple someone help me i cant open power point document in open office
[03:02] <BluesKaj> pedro , in the run command type 'kdesu kcontrol' , the enter your password (gives admin permissions) then choose, regional & accessibility, keyboard
[03:05] <_pedro> Ok, done it
[03:05] <_pedro> but there is no change aparently
[03:05] <_pedro> do I have to reboot_
[03:05] <_pedro> ?
[03:05] <sivaji> BluesKaj :
[03:05] <darkrift_> thx, but that is a gui to a scanner engine that supports ocr
[03:05] <SubOne> How do I uninstall a Window Decoration?
[03:05] <darkrift_> and gocr has low % accuracy
[03:06] <icecruncher> sivaji: work yet?
[03:06] <sivaji> icecruncher dude i cant open that
[03:06] <BluesKaj> sivaji, sorry I have never used power point and seldom use OpenOffice :(
[03:06] <icecruncher> sivaji: can you open openoffice by itself?
[03:06] <sivaji> BluesKaj ok
[03:07] <sivaji> icecruncher how
[03:07] <icecruncher> in the menu
[03:08] <BluesKaj> well, darkrift_ my best advice is to search google-linux...it's a dedicated search engine for linux users ... that's all I can help you with
[03:08] <sivaji> icecruncher i have only openoffice.org (wordprocessor)  is that enough to open that
[03:08] <icecruncher> sivaji: hit alt + F2 and type in ooffice -impress
[03:09] <sivaji> icecruncher wait
[03:11] <icecruncher> sivaji: yes?
[03:11] <sivaji> no
[03:11] <icecruncher> so it cannot open?
[03:12] <sivaji> wait i will paste message which i got when i open with terminal
[03:12] <sivaji> !pastebin
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[03:14] <epimeth> sivaji: still need some help?
[03:14] <icecruncher> epimeth: yeah he does
[03:15] <icecruncher> epimeth: you know how to open ms powerpoint presentations in kubunt
[03:15] <sivaji> icecruncher : openoffice error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25092/
[03:15] <sivaji> epimeth yes
[03:16] <chi0_> hey all i have a question
[03:17] <sivaji> epimeth i cant open power point document (.pps file) when i try to open it with openoffice it get terminated abnormally and when start openoffice second it ask me to click recover button
[03:17] <icecruncher> sivaji: what ver are you running?
[03:17] <sivaji> kubuntu 7.04
[03:19] <sivaji> epimeth icecruncher any idea
[03:19] <zapper> epa
[03:19] <chi0_> does any one know of a good kde based FTP client?
[03:19] <icecruncher> sivaji: no sorry, you could try reinstall openoffice :)
[03:20] <BluesKaj> !ask | chi0_,
[03:20] <ubotu> chi0_,: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:20] <zapper> any one knoes how to download and install cedega????
[03:20] <BluesKaj> oops
[03:20] <sivaji> chi0_ dx4
[03:20] <chi0_> zapper theres a .deb for it ;)
[03:21] <zapper> were
[03:21] <sivaji> chi0_ "sudo apt-get install d4x"
[03:21] <sivaji> chi0_ ktorrent
[03:21] <sivaji> chi0_ prozilla
[03:22] <zapper> thanks
[03:22] <chi0_> ktorrent does ftp?
[03:22] <sivaji> yes
[03:22] <chi0_> ok i will have to check that out ;)
[03:23] <sivaji> epimeth icecruncher ya i can i install some plugins to it now i can thank u
[03:23] <zapper> and now
[03:24] <chi0_> zapper: check the downloads on the site it should be at the bottom :)
[03:24] <BluesKaj> chi0_,  if you like GUIs try KBear
[03:24] <darkrift_> anyone know of someone who would be willing to install this program for me to see what im doing wrong/walk me thru it?
[03:24] <icecruncher> sivaji: np, not tat we where much help
[03:24] <icecruncher> lol
[03:24] <chi0_> BluesKaj: Is that in the repos can't find it
[03:25] <sivaji> chi0_  u should download .torrent  file from some server like isohunt.com
[03:25] <sivaji> chi0_ then u can use ktorrent
[03:25] <BluesKaj> chi0_, http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=17726&package_id=13420&release_id=199365
[03:26] <chi0_> BluesKaj: ty
[03:26] <sivaji> epimeth icecruncher same way can i open openoffice document in msoffice
[03:26] <icecruncher> sivaji: I don't think so
[03:26] <zapper> xlibs??????????
[03:29] <sivaji> icecruncher is there any way to start user script at boot time
[03:30] <icecruncher> sivaji: yes, make it executable and place it in .kde/Autostart/
[03:30] <sivaji> icecruncher how to make it executable
[03:30] <icecruncher> sivaji: chmod +x filename
[03:30] <sivaji> icecruncher ok
[03:31] <sivaji> where this .kde is located
[03:32] <sivaji> icecruncher ya i got it
[03:32] <icecruncher> cool
[03:32] <chi0_> here -- > /home/yourusername/.kde/autostart/file.*
[03:32] <icecruncher> chi0_: it's Autostart ,  capital a
[03:32] <icecruncher> lol
[03:33] <chi0_> sorry lol my bad. hee hee
[03:33] <icecruncher> np
[03:33] <icecruncher> lol
[03:33] <sivaji> icecruncher but that script needs su privillage
[03:34] <sivaji> icecruncher are u there
[03:34] <icecruncher> yes,
[03:34] <sivaji>  icecruncher but that script needs su privillage
[03:35] <icecruncher> yes, one sec, typing is not that fast
[03:35] <icecruncher> make a script with kdesu script, place it in autostart, and the script is referencing to the one that you wanna execute
[03:36] <chi0_> it will ask for your password after you login. it will be a "kdesu" pop up ;)
[03:37] <sivaji> icecruncher shall i place my script at /etc/init.d/ because script in this dir get executed in boot time
[03:37] <sivaji> with su privillage
[03:37] <icecruncher> sivaji: true, what does it do?
[03:38] <sivaji> ya
[03:38] <icecruncher> purpose of scipt?
[03:39] <sivaji> when u boot u r system u will see information like "loading kernel module ,etc' all these are placed in this dir
[03:40] <icecruncher> ahh
[03:40] <sivaji> yesterday i removed one prog from this dir and and didnt see that at boot time
[03:40] <sivaji> my script will mount windows partition in linux dir
[03:40] <icecruncher> ahh
[03:40] <icecruncher> k
[03:41] <zipper> This is mighty wierd. I have 2 soundcards, HDA-Intel and audigy4. At first, my HDA-Intel was set as default, but after a few reboots (not sure what caused it), audigy4 was set as default. But after installing linux-kernel-image-generic, i'm back to using HDA-intel as default.... how do i switch back to audigy?
[03:44] <NiceGuyUK> hi, can someone remind me of the name of that app that gives a graph of where all the diskspace has gone?
[03:46] <BluesKaj> zipper, most default settings for 2 soundcards have to be made in the BIOS , one must be disabled in the preipherals (that's usually where you'll find them)
[03:47] <NiceGuyUK> !diskspace
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diskspace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <NiceGuyUK> !df
[03:47] <ubotu> Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T
[03:47] <NiceGuyUK> ah, there it is :)
[03:48] <BluesKaj> NiceGuyUK, in the run command type 'kdesu kcontrol' , the enter your password (gives admin permissions) then choose' disk7filesystems
[03:49] <NiceGuyUK> thx
[03:49] <BluesKaj> err disk&filesystems
[03:51] <NiceGuyUK> Filelight is more what I was looking for though
[03:54] <zipper> BluesKaj: i've heard that solution before, but i refuse to do it that way. It _MUST_ be possible from within the OS.
[03:56] <BluesKaj> yes zipper , it prolly is ,but i don't know how , ....sorry :(
[03:57] <DJServers> yo
[03:57] <DJServers> !ircd
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ircd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <jacques> gusty is very good
[03:58] <jacques> I love it
[04:02] <BluesKaj> zipper,you could check this out ...it's for debian but it might work with feisty too since kubuntu is debiam based : http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/10/steps-to-get-audio-to-work-in-debian.html
[04:03] <BluesKaj> gotta go cut the lawn ...bbl
[04:04] <zipper> BluesKaj: thanks, but i've already found a way to do it.... asoundconf
[04:04] <zipper> easy and effective
[04:04] <DJServers> some one nows how to start irc-hybrid ?
[04:06] <BluesKaj> yup,ok good to know ...I had to get my SD working by making an asoundrc file as well
[04:06] <BluesKaj> bbl
[04:06] <zipper> didnt even have to make a file, just 'asound set-default-card xxxx'
[04:07] <hias> Hi, how can I create a Text file via terminal?
[04:08] <nullkuhl> guys plz helpi have just installed splashy and when i try to exec this in terminal : splashy test or splashy boot i get this error  Splashy ERROR: Couldn't splashy_start_splashy(). Error -2  HELPPP
[04:08] <hias> Hi, how can I create a Text file via terminal?
[04:08] <zipper> hias: well, you can create any file using 'touch'. i.e 'touch file.txt'
[04:09] <zipper> hias: and stop repeating yourself, we heard you the first time
[04:09] <hias> ok, sry
[04:09] <zipper> hias: 'touch' only creates the file though, you need something like vim/emacs/nano/whatever to edit it
[04:09] <DJServers> Hi all, i have just installed the irc-hybrid server by adept manager but how to start it now ? ....
[04:10] <nullkuhl> guys plz helpi have just installed splashy and when i try to exec this in terminal : splashy test or splashy boot i get this error  Splashy ERROR: Couldn't splashy_start_splashy(). Error -2  HELPPP
[04:10] <DJServers> Hi all, i have just installed the irc-hybrid server by adept manager but how to start it now ? ....
[04:11] <hias> perhpas with the terminal
[04:11] <hias> just type in the package name
[04:11] <zipper> DJServers: stop repeating, we heard you the first time. If anyone is online who can, and feel like helping, i'm sure they'll reply
[04:11] <hias> How can I login as root?
[04:12] <jzilla> dont advise doing that
[04:12] <jzilla> most root stuff can be done with sudo
[04:12] <DJServers> i am asking sins this morning never get an answer
[04:12] <hias> But I must edit a file
[04:12] <zipper> hias: you shouldn't need to. In (k)ubuntu, we use "sudo" instead
[04:12] <hias> but always permision denied...
[04:12] <jzilla> sudo kate file.txt
[04:13] <jzilla> would probably be the way to go
[04:13] <hias> ah cool
[04:13] <hias> ok
[04:13] <zipper> DJServers: well, you get the support you pay for. Cant really expect help, although you get it most of the time anyway
[04:13] <hias> and what is the command for deleting a file?
[04:13] <zipper> hias: *NEVER DO THIS* it is possible to get a root terminal running, doing 'sudo sh' or 'sudo bash'
[04:13] <zipper> hias: 'rm file'
[04:13] <hias> thanks
[04:14] <zipper> hias: and if you want to delete a directory.... 'rm -rf dir/'
[04:14] <hias> is there a list of all commands in the internet?
[04:14] <zipper> hias: i'm sorry, i'm only aware of a danish list for debian on www.debianguiden.dk
[04:14] <zipper> ALL commands would be a lot of pages though
[04:15] <DJServers> !irc
[04:15] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[04:16] <ReMiiRuru> Will 'acpi=off' increase my computers energy usage? I hope it's not totally dumb question...
[04:17] <zipper> ReMiiRuru: probably, depends on whether your hardware supports stepping. That said, it will probably also disable hibernate functions and so on.
[04:18] <lam64> hi
[04:18] <ReMiiRuru> Well, I was wondering because this month energy bill was pretty high, and the only change last month was installing linux(with acpi=off)
[04:18] <ReMiiRuru> Well, but right now PC actually booted with acpi! That was unheard off month ago.
[04:19] <ReMiiRuru> I hope it'll be stable...
[04:19] <zipper> couldn't it be something else than your pc that is drawing power?
[04:21] <ReMiiRuru> It could be. But I don't know what are people who I'm sharing apartment with doing in their rooms
[04:21] <ReMiiRuru> Actually I'll feel better with acpi being on, as long as it's stable :)
[04:22] <zipper> ofcourse. Acpi is a good thing.
[04:22] <zipper> even if power consumption remains the same
[04:24] <ReMiiRuru> Yeah. I don't really use much electronics except computer, so I did all I could to prevent next bill from being that high^^
[04:25] <zipper> you guys have an old fridge? old oven? Those can really suck up some power
[04:28] <ReMiiRuru> Ouch, random freeze.
[04:29] <zipper> ReMiiRuru:
[04:29] <zipper> you guys have an old fridge? old oven? Those can really suck up some power
[04:31] <dfeser> hi all
[04:31] <dfeser>  is there a way to use kerberos for the printer auth?
[04:37] <mitch_> I wonder if someone could help me with a wireless problem...my wireless stopped working after i upgraded to 2.6.20-16
[04:39] <bbeck_> I was wondering if anyone knew how to get changes to the toolbar in Kate to stay set.  I would like to have the icon text appear under the icons, so I set it that way, but when I restart Kate, the text is missing.
[04:39] <dfeser> mitch is whats the content of your /lib/firmware dir?
[04:40] <DJServers> someone nows how to start irc-hybrid ????
[04:41] <mitch_> dfeser: 2.6.20-15-generic and 2.6.20-16-generic
[04:42] <ReMiiRuru> Yeah, another random freeze. acpi=off is not for me :)
[04:42] <dfeser> mitch ok, firmware folder is there...which wlan card do you own?
[04:42] <ReMiiRuru> *is for m
[04:43] <mitch_> broadcom 4318...my wireless still works if i sign in with the 20-15 kernel
[04:44] <faidillinger> which grafical ftp client ??? kbear or kasablanca ???
[04:46] <mitch_> it kinda seems like dhcp doesn;t work with 20-16 and my wireless....
[04:46] <bbeck_> faidillinger: I use konqueror for ftp.  It seems to work well.
[04:47] <faidillinger> ok
[04:49] <mitch_> on dhclient i get "No DHCPOFFERS received"
[04:50] <mikkael> how many entries does a swap need ? here is my fstab, is one of those swap entries obsolete ? http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1229
[04:53] <Minataku> Hm
[04:55] <BluesKaj> kasablanca is in the repos , i don't see kbear in any of mine, ...It's available as a bz2 file and requires some dependencies that are installed but it's configure/make files don't see for some reason
[04:56] <BluesKaj> kbear may not work with Qt4 from what I can see so it's prolly not feisty compliant
[04:58] <faidillinger> fine, i ll go for kasablanca
[04:58] <BluesKaj> kasablanca looks good , faidillinger
[05:00] <mitch_> is there a bug with wireless and 2.6.20-16 upgrade?
[05:04] <Minataku> Hm... so the Amiga used MFM after all
[05:05] <mitch_> is there anywhere else to go and try and get help with wireless problems?
[05:06] <BluesKaj> !wireless | mitch_
[05:06] <ubotu> mitch_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:07] <Minataku> Hm... hm... hm...
[05:07] <Minataku> Supposedly it's possible to R/W Amiga floppies with a standard PC FDC
[05:08] <Linux_Alien> is there a repo with tremulous in? somone here said it was in the universe repo but i just upgraded to feisty 7.04 and have all the repo's unhashed but still no tremulous
[05:09] <Minataku> Eh... I think I'll just hack together a CD-ROM drive instead
[05:10] <Linux_Alien> source it is then :)
[05:11] <dazjorz> bah, what's this
[05:11] <dazjorz> I think *something's* wrong in my xorg.conf
[05:11] <dazjorz> but the screen just doesn't look right
[05:11] <dazjorz> I see thin black lines
[05:11] <dazjorz> my monitor should support 1024*786 @ 60 Hz just fine
[05:12] <dazjorz> maybe it's because of the 'nvidia' driver, or because the horizontal/vertical sync isn't correct
[05:13] <Minataku> Thin black lines like scanlines? O.o
[05:13] <dazjorz> it does find my graphics card correctly, though
[05:13] <dazjorz> Yeah
[05:13] <dazjorz> I guess so
[05:13] <dazjorz> they move all the time, too
[05:14] <Minataku> Hrm
[05:14] <Minataku> If possible, try a different card/monitor
[05:14] <Minataku> Or cable
[05:14] <dazjorz> well, I am able to do stuff, so that's no problem
[05:14] <dazjorz> I don't have any different card or monitor
[05:14] <dazjorz> :/
[05:14] <dazjorz> Eh
[05:14] <dazjorz> When I use 'nv', it works just fine
[05:14] <dazjorz> but with 'nvidia', it doesn't
[05:15] <dazjorz> maybe I just need to update the driver, or so
[05:16] <Minataku> Ah
[05:16] <Minataku> Well, I was thinking maybe bad hardware but that's ruled out then
[05:16] <dazjorz> The hardware was fine :)
[05:16] <dazjorz> The login window showed fine, too
[05:17] <dazjorz> and it was after I reconfigured xserver-xorg
[05:17] <Minataku> Weird
[05:17] <dazjorz> Quite, yeah
[05:18] <Daisuke_Ido> 1024*786?\
[05:18] <dazjorz> Oh, it might've been 768, I never remember the second number ;)
[05:18] <BluesKaj> dazjorz, how is it with just the vesa driver , or have you checked ?
[05:18] <Daisuke_Ido> k, that could cause problems
[05:19] <dazjorz> BluesKaj: I haven't, but it works fine with the 'nv' driver, so I'm updating 'nvidia' now
[05:20] <Minataku> Eh... I'm sure I'll eventually figure something out
[05:20] <richar> hola soy richar
[05:21] <zipper> dazjorz: i know this isnt the "linux-way", but i've had some wierd graphical glitches when installing nvidia drivers. A reboot was the only thing that could fix it - dunno if you've tried that already.
[05:21] <dazjorz> zipper: Nah, I'm going to update now, I'll keep it in mind :)
[05:21] <zipper> for me though, it was mostly a square in the center of the screen, which were tiled/messed up. Rest of the screen looked fine.
[05:23] <Minataku> My A/UX Mac is up and running right now... was doing some experiments with it
[05:24] <Minataku> I wonder if it can read/write 880k Amiga floppies... I'd have to do some programming, probably, there's no 880 device by default, I'd have to mess around with ioctls and such
[05:25] <Minataku> Plus it'd be weird to write my first truly useful program on such an old and obscure OS XD
[05:27] <dazjorz> eh
[05:28] <dazjorz> the scanlines are still there with the newest driver
[05:28] <jriachi> hello
[05:29] <jriachi> in kde (current kubuntu version), is it possible to have rectangular buttons in the panel??  (e.g.. I'd like to have a 32x128 button for my start menu)
[05:38] <dazjorz> Yay
[05:38] <dazjorz> It works!
[05:38] <dazjorz> I had to put '_60' after the resolutions in xorg.conf
[05:38] <tanaka> hi all! :)
[05:39] <BluesKaj> cool dazjorz, the updated driver works ...good to know
[05:39] <dazjorz> BluesKaj: No, it was not because of the updated driver
[05:39] <dazjorz> it was because I added '_60' to the resolutions in xorg.conf for the Screen
[05:39] <dazjorz> so, 1024*768_60 instead of 1024*768
[05:39] <BluesKaj> refresh rate ?
[05:40] <BluesKaj> what size monitor dazjorz ?
[05:40] <BluesKaj> hi tanaka
[05:41] <ubuntu> hi payos
[05:42] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, pls change yer nick, sometimes we end up with 5-6 ubuntus of various kinds and it all can become very confusing
[05:43] <dazjorz> BluesKaj: not sure
[05:43] <BluesKaj> dazjorz,@work ?
[05:44] <jriachi> hello
[05:44] <semistud2354> i dont know if anyone else has this problem...but im runing kubuntu feisty...and when i set the screensaver to come on it just freezes my screen...when i movie my mouse the screen is back to normal...i dont see any screen saver...just a picture of my screen when the screen saver was supposta start
[05:45] <jriachi> in kde, can i make buttons in the panel to be rectangular? (e.g, i'd like my "system menu/important places" button to be 32x128)
[05:45] <ubuntu> hi
[05:47] <semistud2354> does anyone have any ideas
[05:47] <semistud2354> suggestions....
[05:48] <ubuntu> hi
[05:48] <zhangkai> Mathematica,How use at kubuntu?
[05:49] <ardchoille> semistud2354: That happens to me randomly too, but most of the time the screensaver works fine.
[05:49] <semistud2354> mine doest work at all
[05:49] <semistud2354> anytime
[05:49] <semistud2354> just....takes a picture of my screen...
[05:49] <semistud2354> thats my screensaver
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> are you using the linux version of mathematica?
[05:51] <semistud2354> me
[05:51] <semistud2354> im using kubuntu feisty
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> no no, zhangkai
[05:52] <semistud2354> o
[05:54] <zhangkai> Daisuke_Ido:how to use it ?
[05:55] <tanaka> is there a way to install the nvidias' latest and greatest 100.14.09 driver in kubunntu?
[05:56] <nullkuhl> guys does any one here have feisty and is having the default boot splash screen of ubuntu.. if so pls pastbin me the /boot/grub/menu.lst          plzzzzzzzzzzzz
[05:57] <Daisuke_Ido> what does one have to do with the other?
[05:57] <Daisuke_Ido> and it's spelled "PLEASE"
[05:58] <nullkuhl> Daisuke_Ido: are u on fiesty
[05:58] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah
[05:58] <root__> how do i set my gutsy gibbon nvidia display drivers to 1440x900 in 16/10 mode ?
[05:58] <Daisuke_Ido> add "splash" to your kernel line
[05:58] <Daisuke_Ido> root__: go to #ubuntu+1 for gutsy questions
[05:59] <icecruncher> what is a good small sound recorder?
[06:00] <Daisuke_Ido> krec?
[06:00] <Daisuke_Ido> or "Sound Recorder"
[06:00] <nullkuhl> guys does any one here have feisty and is having the default boot splash screen of ubuntu.. if so pls pastbin me the /boot/grub/menu.lst          plzzzzzzzzzzzz
[06:00] <Hayzeus> Ok
[06:00] <El_Don> alguien puede decirme en q protocolo debo usar para conectar mi cuenta Gmail en Gaim=?
[06:01] <Hayzeus> i just installed Kubuntu
[06:01] <nullkuhl> Daisuke_Ido: pls pastebin me the file ^^
[06:01] <Daisuke_Ido> nullkuhl: repeating isn't necessary
[06:01] <Hayzeus> and it will not let me login with my username and password
[06:01] <nullkuhl> ok
[06:01] <Daisuke_Ido> and no, i will not, because you'll just screw your own things up
[06:01] <El_Don> alguien puede decirme en q protocolo debo usar para conectar mi cuenta Gmail en Gaim=?
[06:01] <nullkuhl> well no, i just wnna set some values to the default one
[06:01] <Hayzeus> can someone help me with my kubuntu login trouble?
[06:01] <Daisuke_Ido> if your spash isn't showing, make sure "splash" is on the line with the kernel options
[06:01] <nullkuhl> i aint that stupid to cpy n paste it
[06:01] <El_Don> alguien puede decirme en q protocolo debo usar para conectar mi cuenta Gmail en Gaim=?
[06:01] <nullkuhl> it depends on lotsa stuff i knowwww
[06:01] <icecruncher> !sp | El_Don
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <nullkuhl> just plz paste bin ittt
[06:01] <cr4sh> !ntfs-3g
[06:01] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:02] <Daisuke_Ido> when you learn to spell, i'll pastebin it.
[06:02] <cr4sh> !ntfs-config
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <El_Don> alguien puede decirme en q protocolo debo usar para conectar mi cuenta Gmail en Gaim=?
[06:02] <Hayzeus> anyone?
[06:02] <icecruncher> !spanish | El_Don
[06:02] <ubotu> El_Don: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:02] <Hayzeus> Help on kubuntu logins- query me please
[06:02] <nullkuhl> Daisuke_Ido: ??
[06:03] <nullkuhl> please paste bin it ? happy now ?
[06:03] <Daisuke_Ido> ...no
[06:03] <Daisuke_Ido> i told you what you needed
[06:03] <nullkuhl> lol wats up ??
[06:04] <nullkuhl> grrrrr
[06:04] <nullkuhl> r u here to support ppl or annoy theM ?
[06:04] <icecruncher> nullkuhl please be patient or quiet
[06:05] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm here to support people that DON'T have the windows "give it to me NOW" mentality.
[06:05] <Daisuke_Ido> i had it pastebinned, now you can forget it.
[06:05] <Daisuke_Ido> jfgi
[06:06] <ni^> hey i have weird issue, after upgrade edgy -> feisty my wifi [ my computer {kubuntu} <<<< router [wifi]  >>>> lan {win xp} ]  is very slow [~500-550 KB/s]  before upgrade i had 1.5-2 MB/s anyone who can help me? Router is DI-624, i tried WEP/WPA/RAW same speed...
[06:06] <icecruncher> Daisuke_Ido: thnks btw for the tip on krec
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> icecruncher: you're welcome
[06:06] <missmolotov> if you've killed xorg.conf so badly, you can't log into a desktop, can you force it to drop back to a shell?
[06:06] <Hayzeus> when installing kubuntu i put in my username and password that i wanted (and it did the type check and whatnot so it matched) and then i tried to login with it now and it will not work at all for me
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> case sensitivity?
[06:07] <Hayzeus> nope
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[06:07] <Hayzeus> it was all lower case
[06:07] <Hayzeus> and my pass is all #s
[06:07] <Hayzeus> and numlock is on
[06:07] <Hayzeus> lol
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> then i can definitely see how there's a problem
[06:07] <Hayzeus> yes
[06:07] <Hayzeus> i cannot do anything with it at the moment
[06:07] <nullkuhl> Daisuke_Ido: Why are u refusin to help ?
[06:08] <Hayzeus> is there a way i can do something in the console to reset my pass?
[06:08] <SlimeyPete> sudo passwd <username>
[06:08] <SlimeyPete> but to do that, you'd have to log in to the console
[06:08] <Hayzeus> yea i just thought of that
[06:08] <Hayzeus> damn
[06:09] <Hayzeus> i dont know what to do now
[06:09] <Daisuke_Ido> Hayzeus: did you *just* install?
[06:09] <Hayzeus> yes
[06:09] <Hayzeus> i just installed
[06:09] <Daisuke_Ido> because if you're not going to lose anything...
[06:09] <Hayzeus> i havent even used it yet
[06:10] <Hayzeus> could i possibly boot into the livecd
[06:10] <Hayzeus> open terminal
[06:10] <Hayzeus> and do any changes that way
[06:10] <Hayzeus> but since its a livecd it wont let me make changes to my HD right?
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> SlimeyPete: couldn't he work under a chroot environment and set things right?
[06:10] <ni^> Hayzeus: boot in single
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> Hayzeus: if it's mounted, you should be able to write to it (if it isn't ntfs)
[06:11] <Hayzeus> ok it is mounted
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> crap, can't chroot
[06:11] <Hayzeus> and its a ext3 partition
[06:11] <ni^> Hayzeus: or mount your hdd to /tmp using livecd and chroot /tmp /bin/bash / change pass
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> ni^ has the best idea
[06:12] <ni^> Hayzeus: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/custom-guide/s1-rescuemode-booting-single.html
[06:12] <aleksanteri> When I try apt-get install <whatever_package> it says that "these packages have broken dependancies" since it's trying to install them. How can I stop this?
[06:12] <ni^> anyone here who had weird problems with wifi at feisty?
[06:13] <sudeep> i have  ubuntu 7.04 installed on my system. I also have Kubuntu 7.04 CD. How can i add kubuntu packages on to my system...
[06:13] <ni^> aleksanteri: check which are broken and fix them using --force-all
[06:13] <Daisuke_Ido> sudeep: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:14] <ni^> aleksanteri: i mean download .deb and force dpkg -i :)
[06:14] <aleksanteri> ni^: apt complains that "--force-all" is an unknown command line option
[06:14] <ni^> dpkg --force-all -i package.deb
[06:14] <ni^> first download that .deb
[06:14] <aleksanteri> aah :P
[06:14] <aleksanteri> ok i'll try taht
[06:14] <aleksanteri> that *
[06:14] <dromer> can someone help me setup nvidia twinview? since my re-install (ubuntu feisty) my xorg.conf seems to have changed a LOT:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25103/
[06:18] <ninHer> hi all
[06:19] <ni^> dromer: i'm just guessing but... Option   "DynamicTwinView""False" maybe here
[06:23] <dromer> ni^: no, then X doesn't load
[06:24] <steffen> someone know what the default password/username on phpmyadmin??
[06:25] <Hayzeus> Thanks
[06:25] <Hayzeus> that worked
[06:25] <zipper> steffen: i bet the manual/readme does
[06:26] <Hayzeus> ni^: many thanks to you
[06:26] <steffen> zipper: where to find it?
[06:26] <Hayzeus> i booted in single user and did the sudo passwd and changed it
[06:26] <Hayzeus> thanks
[06:26] <steffen> where can i find it? **
[06:27] <zipper> steffen: dunno... my guess would be their website
[06:27] <steffen> i have installed it in the Adept...
[06:28] <dromer> ni^: ok, got it working now, at least, the nvidia-settings has the option to enable twinview .. the 2nd screen doesn't seem very responsive yet though ..
[06:29] <zipper> steffen: then you can probably do 'man phpmyadmin'
[06:30] <crowbar> steffen: it might be root with no password
[06:30] <icecruncher> and could anyone tell me of kde's sound editor?
[06:30] <crowbar> steffen: phpmyadmin is just a frontend for the mysql database, so you have to use your mysql account nad password.  the default for that is root and no password
[06:32] <icecruncher> i mean a audio editor, other than audacity,which crashed at a 34 mb file
[06:35] <steffen> crowbar: i have tryed root with no password, but it didn't work :-(
[06:36] <crowbar> steffen: Do you have mysql installed?
[06:36] <crowbar> steffen: mysql-server?
[06:37] <DJServers> someone nows how to start irc-hybrid ????
[06:37] <steffen> crowbar: yes, mysql-server-5.0 and mysql-server
[06:38] <crowbar> steffen: on the command line what happens if you type mysql -u root  ?
[06:41] <DJServers> hi all, is here anyone ho nows how to start irc-hybrid?
[06:41] <steffen> crowbar: "welcome to mysql...."
[06:41] <crowbar> steffen: Then the root password is still set to nothing.  What is the error you're running into?  if you leave the password field blank you should be able to log right in
[06:42] <^RiaN^> hiii all
[06:42] <dr_willis> Minataku,  found the calculators 5 total. i think. but NOW i gotta run to the hoispital.
[06:42] <dr_willis> byeee.
[06:42] <^RiaN^> please help me
[06:42] <^RiaN^> how to mount windows partition from kubuntu
[06:43] <steffen> crowbar: yes, i can login on command line, but not on phpmyadmin... the error i get on phpmyadmin: Access denied for user ...
[06:44] <crowbar> steffen: what does the entire message say?
[06:44] <jhutchins_lt> steffen: is mysql listening on localhost?  Have you set the admin user in config.include.php?
[06:45] <jhutchins_lt> steffen: Obviously you must set a password before this goes "live", or anybody can log in.
[06:45] <zipper> Something feels wrong about my pc...
[06:46] <zipper> i cant seem to find any more glitches or things to fix =(
[06:46] <manchicken> Anybody know why my keypad would now mysteriously start controlling my mouse cursor?
[06:46] <zipper> perhaps i should consider upgrading to +1? You know, to get broken dependencies and all the fun stuff.
[06:47] <zipper> manchicken: say what?
[06:47] <zipper> manchicken: your keypad actually moves the curser?
[06:47] <manchicken> Yup.
[06:47] <jhutchins_lt> manchicken: The numlock key is off.
[06:47] <zipper> numlock or not, it shouldnt do that
[06:47] <manchicken> And the KDE option that enables that is not checked.
[06:47] <steffen> jhutchins_lt: the user is root, pass ""
[06:47] <manchicken> jhutchins_lt: This happens both with numlock on and off.
[06:48] <jhutchins_lt> manchicken: It's somehow enabled the 'accessibility' feature that does that.
[06:48] <Ze_M> isnt there a feisty release for ppc?
[06:48] <zipper> manchicken: is your keypad special in any way? Like, seperated from the rest of the keyboard, having its own cord or something?
[06:48] <manchicken> zipper: No.
[06:48] <zipper> Ze_M: i've heard about people installing feisty on the PS3, so i would guess there is
[06:48] <Ze_M> isnt there a feisty release for ppc?
[06:48] <zipper> and dont repeat yourself, we heard you the first time
[06:48] <manchicken> jhutchins_lt: could you be more specific?
[06:48] <steffen> crowbar: oh, i see the problem: Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: YES) ... but i typed in root as user... :-S
[06:49] <Ze_M> zipper sp what release should idownload?
[06:49] <Ze_M> zipper so what release should i download?
[06:49] <jhutchins_lt> steffen: Read the docs for phpMyAdmin, create the proper config.include.php file.
[06:49] <zipper> Ze_M: beats me, i dont have a PPC architecture =(
[06:49] <jhutchins_lt> Ze_M: 2007.1
[06:51] <zuziailukaszek> helo
[06:59] <CAP5389> is there a ppc release?
[06:59] <CAP5389> is there feisty release for ppc?
[07:03] <jhutchins_lt> !ppc | CAP5389
[07:03] <ubotu> CAP5389: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[07:03] <ni^> ok i found solution... seems disabling avahi-daemon help networking speed problems in my case 500 k/s -> 3.5-4.5 M/s
[07:03] <tanaka> hi again
[07:04] <tanaka> the pc booted up fine with the new kernel,so how can i remove the old one
[07:07] <tanaka> PriceChild: how can i remove the old kernel
[07:08] <nullkuhl> guys can some one paste bin me his usplash  ??
[07:08] <nullkuhl> PriceChild: can u ?
[07:09] <tanaka> hi,is this irc active?
[07:10] <nullkuhl> yea
[07:10] <nullkuhl> tanaka where r u from..
[07:10] <tanaka> nullkuhl: Sri Lanka
[07:10] <gnyffel> I need the kopete header files, but I can't find them with aptitude. Anyone?
[07:10] <nullkuhl> hmm
[07:10] <nullkuhl> u using feisty ?
[07:10] <tanaka> nullkuhl: yup
[07:11] <nullkuhl> i need a small favor
[07:11] <nullkuhl> can u pastebin me ur usplash file ?
[07:11] <tanaka> nullkuhl: where can i get that file
[07:11] <nullkuhl> open a terminal
[07:11] <tanaka> nullkuhl: ok
[07:11] <nullkuhl> type sudo gedit /etc/init.d/usplash
[07:12] <nullkuhl> then press file save as and save it to ur desktop then snd me this file or jsut pastebin it
[07:13] <tanaka> nullkuhl: i'm using kubuntu
[07:13] <gnyffel> tanaka: use kate or kwrite instead of gedit, then
[07:13] <nullkuhl> ops
[07:14] <nullkuhl> that might get worse
[07:14] <nullkuhl> but try anyway
[07:14] <nullkuhl> typin kate instead of gedit
[07:14] <nullkuhl> and see if u find that file
[07:15] <tanaka> nullkuhl: i got the file
[07:15] <tanaka> nullkuhl: now what
[07:16] <nullkuhl> pastebin it to me
[07:16] <nullkuhl> know how ?
[07:16] <nullkuhl> tanaka u got msn ?
[07:16] <nullkuhl> im i mean
[07:16] <Daisuke_Ido> don't help this twit.
[07:17] <tanaka> i'm using konversation
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> and nullkuhl: if you're using ubuntu rather than kubuntu, how about asking in *gasp* god forbid, #ubuntu !!!
[07:18] <nullkuhl> Daisuke_Ido: SHHHH
[07:18] <nullkuhl> tanaka: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:18] <Daisuke_Ido> how about NO.
[07:18] <nullkuhl> copy and paste all the text in the file in that url and give me the link when u have it
[07:18] <Daisuke_Ido> just fscking google it.
[07:19] <tanaka> nullkuhl: I uploaded to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25119/
[07:19] <nullkuhl> i wudnt have been talkin here if i found something abt thisin google .. how genius of ya
[07:20] <nullkuhl> thx ... tanaka............ Daisuke_Ido :P
[07:20] <SillyZ> morning
[07:22] <_pedro> Good afternoon
[07:22] <tanaka> how can i remove the old kernel after installing the new one using dist-upgrade?
[07:23] <_pedro> I can't get up X after installing nvidia with aptitude
[07:23] <_pedro> any help?
[07:24] <SillyZ> try dpkg-reconfig xserver-xorg
[07:24] <rothchild> _pedro have you checked /var/log/xorg.log?
[07:24] <SillyZ> sorry dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:24] <_pedro> I did it, but I can't find the reason
[07:25] <_pedro> http://www.mypastebin.com/?code=1741088417
[07:25] <_pedro> Here you can find it
[07:25] <sebastianhooker_> whats up all?
[07:26] <sebastianhooker_> omg i love this song
[07:26] <sebastianhooker_> Now playing: Unknown Artist - Track 2 @ 128 Kbps. (0:47/3:24)
[07:26] <SillyZ> what nvidia card ya got ?
[07:27] <Hayzeus> hey again all
[07:27] <Hayzeus> i have one more question
[07:27] <_pedro> I don't know
[07:27] <SillyZ> you dont know which nvidia card you have
[07:28] <_pedro> nop
[07:28] <SillyZ> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:28] <SillyZ> select the NV driver
[07:28] <SillyZ> and just follow the prompts
[07:28] <Hayzeus> im trying to install my NVIDIA Graphics drivers so it can run OpenGL a bit better than vesa... i have a nVidia 7600 and when i run the install file it says that i have X server running and i need to disable it
[07:28] <_pedro> Now I am working with nv driver but I would like to use nvidia
[07:28] <Hayzeus> and i dont know how to
[07:28] <melkor> does anybody here use the infrared port on their laptop?
[07:29] <jhutchins> !ati | Hayzeus
[07:29] <ubotu> Hayzeus: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:29] <_pedro> I am going to reboot and try the command <sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg>
[07:29] <SillyZ> thanks jhutchins
[07:29] <_pedro> see you now
[07:29] <melkor> Or why doesn't  ' apt-get upgrade ' upgrade my kernel?
[07:29] <smile> hello world
[07:30] <smile> i need a help to connect my ftp server
[07:30] <smile> i use proftpd
[07:30] <fisnik> Hi there, I need help with my ATI card
[07:30] <SillyZ> !ati | fisnik
[07:30] <ubotu> fisnik: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:30] <fisnik> ubotu
[07:30] <fisnik> is this a bot?
[07:31] <SillyZ> infobot
[07:31] <fisnik> I see
[07:31] <fisnik> can anybody help me increase reoslution on my ATI
[07:31] <jhutchins> fisnik: Not if you're not willing to read guides.
[07:32] <melkor> !irda
[07:32] <ubotu> Information about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto
[07:33] <fisnik> but my card is installed in kubuntu
[07:33] <fisnik> I only need to increase resolution
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> fisnik: then you didn't read the guide
[07:35] <fisnik> I'm really confused
[07:35] <fisnik> I just installed the kubuntu
[07:35] <fisnik> 10 minutes ago
[07:35] <fisnik> dont know anything about linux
[07:35] <fisnik> :S
[07:35] <melkor> fisnik the guide is pretty thorough
[07:37] <fisnik> I will try to
[07:39] <jhutchins> fisnik: We usually refer people to guides for two reasons: the question is asked frequently, and the answer is more complex than is practical to explain over IRC.
[07:40] <fisnik> how do I find this: ystem -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager
[07:40] <fisnik> system -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager*
[07:40] <fisnik> on the system I dont see admini
[07:40] <jhutchins> fisnik: In your case, the answer is a small portion of one of the pages that is referred to, and those of us who don't have ATI cards can still refer you to it,.
[07:40] <TheCreationist> Could someone recommend a good GUI app to rip DVD to iPod?
[07:41] <st> i need help with the new acer 5920 notebook. can't startx 1280 x 800
[07:42] <Minataku> !resolution
[07:42] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:42] <jhutchins> st: What about 1280x960?
[07:42] <sebastianhooker_> TheCreationist: jodix
[07:42] <Minataku> jhutchins: It's probably a widescreen LCD panel
[07:43] <Minataku> LCD panels tend to be rather static in resolution, especially laptop ones
[07:43] <st> jhutchins you mean change xorg to 1280 x 960?
[07:44] <st> yes its a widescreen
[07:44] <_ubotu_> whats up?
[07:44] <marko> i
[07:45] <jhutchins> st: you and fisnik might find krandrtray useful.
[07:45] <marko> need help anyway i the terminal i use wget to download someting then i use tar you know but i don 't know where does save the files
[07:45] <marko> :D
[07:45] <Minataku> marko: In the current directory
[07:45] <marko> forget it
[07:45] <marko> i have it
[07:45] <marko> heh:)
[07:45] <_ubotu_> marko: lol
[07:46] <Minataku> _ubotu_: I'm pretty sure impersonating the bot is a punishable offense, sebastianhooker
[07:46] <TheCreationist> Could someone recommend a good GUI app to rip DVD to iPod?
[07:46] <fisnik> can somebody tell me on how to access: "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager"
[07:46] <_ubotu_> minataku: technically i'm not impersonating the bot, there still is _s there
[07:47] <Minataku> _ubotu_: You are using a nickname deliberately similar to that of the bot
[07:47] <Minataku> It is obvious impersonation of a channel official
[07:47] <fisnik> can somebody tell me on how to access: "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager"
[07:47] <_ubotu_> is _roconnor ever talking?
[07:48] <ardchoille> _ubotu_: Why do you use a nick so close to that of the bot?
[07:48] <fisnik> I'm using kubuntu
[07:48] <_pedro> I am here again
[07:48] <ardchoille> _ubotu_: That may confuse new visitors, just fyi
[07:48] <_pedro> I can say that the solution didn't work
[07:48] <Minataku> He's gone and back now
[07:48] <sebastianhooker> happy?
[07:48] <Minataku> Yes
[07:48] <sebastianhooker> ok
[07:48] <Minataku> In the future: /nick blah
[07:48] <Minataku> No need to disconnect
[07:48] <_pedro> and by the way, my graphic card is Geforce 5700
[07:49] <_pedro> any other suggestion?
[07:50] <jhutchins> !fixres | _pedro
[07:50] <ubotu> _pedro: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:51] <fisnik> is anybody here using ubuntu
[07:51] <fisnik> kubuntu sorry *
[07:52] <MartyMcFly> is it possible to play sound from two apps at once? say amarok and firefox?
[07:52] <Minataku> Yes
[07:53] <Minataku> I believe that's what ARTS is designed to do, in fact
[07:53] <Minataku> Though ALSA is also capable of performing such itself, but I believe the card has to have stream mixing capabilities
[07:53] <Minataku> But KDE uses that ARTS thing which does it in software
[07:54] <Minataku> You can play sound from a bunch of apps at once if you likw
[07:54] <Minataku> It'll probably sound like crap, but if that's what you want XD
[07:55] <Minataku> Wow, is that Barracuda freaking loud
[07:55] <Minataku> Like a buzzsaw inside that Mac
[08:00] <_pedro> I think that you don't know exactly what is my problem...
[08:00] <_pedro> I recently installed nvidia drivers with aptitude
[08:01] <_pedro> but I can't start X after that
[08:01] <_pedro> I had to load nv driver to have gui
[08:01] <_pedro> and I don't know where is the problem
[08:01] <fisnik> is anybody here using kubuntu?
[08:01] <_pedro> I am
[08:01] <xerosis> fisnik: everyone :p
[08:01] <fisnik> can somebody tell me on how to access: "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager"
[08:02] <_pedro> It is a good question
[08:02] <fisnik> ?
[08:02] <xerosis> fisnik: there isn't one for kubuntu
[08:02] <xerosis> it missed the deadline for inclusion for fiesty, it will be in gutsy though
[08:03] <fisnik> so how then do I change resolution for ATI card?
[08:03] <xerosis> there's a monitors section in system settings
[08:03] <fisnik> but I only 1024 x 860
[08:03] <fisnik> I only see*
[08:03] <fisnik> I need higher resolution
[08:03] <xerosis> does your card support it?
[08:04] <fisnik> of course
[08:04] <ardchoille> fisnik: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:04] <xerosis> run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:04] <xerosis> damn, too slow :p
[08:04] <fisnik> ok let me see
[08:04] <fisnik> and then?
[08:05] <christel-5> hi all, Beryl is giving me the white screen of death! I'looked up the beryl and ubuntu forums and it seems that it can be fixed by entering some commands in terminal. Now my question is: how do I access the terminal if I don't have access to anything? In a failsafe session? tried that, doesn't work. Any suggestion welcome, I reaaly need to get some work done tonight, so I' willing to remove the whole Beryl/Compiz thingie if needed
[08:05] <fisnik> i CHOOSE ATI RIGHT?
[08:05] <_pedro> I tried yet 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' but it didn't work
[08:06] <jhutchins_lt> christel-5: Try ctrl-alt-F1
[08:06] <_pedro> about 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg', I think it would load nv driver in my xorg.conf and that is not what I want
[08:06] <ardchoille> _pedro: Did you restart X ?
[08:06] <_pedro> of course
[08:06] <fisnik> I have followed sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:06] <masterk> hi my friend and I were wondering: we are at the download for fiesty, she has a laptop, do we get hte alternative or desktop version?
[08:06] <fisnik> do I need to do something else
[08:06] <fisnik> ?
[08:06] <xerosis> masterk: desktop is what you want
[08:07] <ardchoille> masterk: Personal preference. The desktop cd is a livecd and the alternate is a text-based installer only.
[08:07] <masterk> oh ok
[08:07] <masterk> thx
[08:07] <christel-5> jhutchins: I'm restarting everything and will try ctrl+alt+F1. What should I expect?
[08:07] <fisnik> xerosis: I have followed the steps after the command you gave
[08:07] <xerosis> you need to restart X
[08:08] <fisnik> xerosis: pardon my igonrance, but how do I do that?
[08:08] <_pedro> is that to me xerosis?
[08:08] <ardchoille> fisnik: ctrl+alt+backspace  (be aware that that will restart x, and kill kde)
[08:08] <fisnik> ok I will do it
[08:08] <_pedro> I see it didn't
[08:09] <kdehl> Are there any diagnose tools for Samsung printers like hp-tools for HP printers? I just want to see how much it is left in the toner.
[08:10] <fisnik> I have done ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:10] <fisnik> nothing happened
[08:10] <fisnik> I see the same resolution
[08:10] <fisnik> :S
[08:10] <ardchoille> fisnik: Did you try changing resolutions?
[08:10] <alien__> i need to access an openbsd filesystem, does this mean a recompile?
[08:10] <fisnik> ardchoille: yes I did
[08:11] <ardchoille> !fixres | fisnik have a look at this page
[08:11] <ubotu> fisnik have a look at this page: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:11] <alien__> !ffs
[08:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:11] <alien__> lmao
[08:11] <fisnik> I will try thanx
[08:11] <alien__> ffs is a filesystem
[08:12] <pjb__> hi
[08:12] <_pedro> Please, some help
[08:12] <_pedro> (:
[08:13] <ardchoille> alien__: Let them know in #ubuntu-bots
[08:13] <alien__> ardchoille: why would i need to do that?
[08:14] <alien__> hows about i just recompile the kernel with less crap support and more good open support
[08:14] <alien__> much easier than moaning
[08:14] <alien__> lata
[08:14] <fisnik> ardchoille: I have followed the page you sent
[08:14] <fisnik> but I encountered problems
[08:16] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know how I could get a screenshot of KDM.
[08:17] <fisnik> ardchoille: Can you help me with ATI resolution
[08:22] <christel-5> jhutchins: okaaay... so I tried every command on the beryl & ubuntu sites. Nothing worked. Eventually I listed the processes running and use kill to disable beryl and beryl manager.
[08:25] <christel-5> now the keyboard doesn't work! and the windows have no border, though I think that's got to do with  of emarald. The keyboard issue is quite strange.
[08:25] <BluesKaj> christel-5, just do the  'sudo aptitude remove beryl ' cmnd . if you want to get rid of it for good
[08:26] <BluesKaj> then relogin
[08:27] <christel-5> bluesKaj; yes I think I want to remove it for good. But can't do anything without the keyboard!! Any idea?
[08:27] <BluesKaj> beryl doesn't work well with ati, it's clunky and needs lotsa mods and patches on some pcs
[08:28] <BluesKaj> so what KB are you using now ..and how are you typing
[08:29] <christel-5> I'm on a different comp.
[08:30] <BluesKaj> christel-5, on the other pc then, ctrl+alt+F1
[08:30] <BluesKaj> it might work
[08:31] <christel-5> crap crap crap. I restarted everything. to redo the whole kill rpocess and see if by mistake I killed the keyboard. Now I don't even have access to alt+ctrl+f1
[08:31] <christel-5> restarting.
[08:31] <BluesKaj> the only thing to do is power off
[08:32] <christel-5> i did power off. now kubuntu is loadding...
[08:33] <christel-5> login menu. should I start a normal session or a failsafe?
[08:33] <BluesKaj> ok , look in the login menu an see what's listed there
[08:34] <BluesKaj> normal should be ok
[08:34] <fatejudger> does anyone know how to disable the madwifi drivers which are current latching onto my card so that I can use ndiswrapper?
[08:34] <fatejudger> I already tried blacklisting bcm43xx, but that didn't work
[08:35] <christel-5> going for kde normal session
[08:35] <BluesKaj> christel-5, right
[08:35] <christel-5> brief appeareance of beloved desktop
[08:35] <christel-5> white screen of death!!!!
[08:37] <BluesKaj> ok, now can relogin with ctrl+alt+backspace , and choose failsafe
[08:37] <louis_> hey guys
[08:37] <G3NESIS> Can someone please tell me where can I go to get support for Beryl?
[08:38] <BluesKaj> gawd , what this obsession for eyecandy ... search here:
[08:38] <christel-5> ok. now i'm in failsafe with the dreaded scary console...
[08:38] <BluesKaj> !beryl
[08:38] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:38] <louis_> anybody know if xgl works with fluxbox?
[08:39] <G3NESIS> Thanks Blueskaj.
[08:39] <BluesKaj> KB working , christel-5 ?
[08:39] <christel-5> yeap kb working.
[08:39] <christel-5> call me chris
[08:40] <BluesKaj> christel-5,    'sudo aptitude remove beryl '
[08:40] <christel-5> typing
[08:40] <BluesKaj> it's better to use your nick so it shows up in red
[08:41] <BluesKaj> at least it's supposed to :)
[08:41] <christel-5> saying yes to removing
[08:41] <christel-5> back to the prompt
[08:42] <BluesKaj> ok, then do the relogin thing again in normal session, after it's done
[08:42] <fisnik> can somebody show me on how to increase the screen resolution, I only see 60Hz
[08:42] <fisnik> I have ATI card
[08:43] <christel-5> re-logging in normal session
[08:43] <christel-5> white screen of death!!
[08:43] <christel-5> maybe I should remove beryl-manager as well?
[08:44] <ardchoille> fisnik: To answer your last question to me, I have never used ATI so I can't help, sorry.
[08:44] <BluesKaj> fisnik, in the run command type 'kdesu kcontrol' , the enter your password (gives admin permissions) then choose, monitor & display ... look for your grphics card in hardware and configure and apply
[08:44] <fisnik> BluesKaj: let me try it
[08:45] <BluesKaj> yup, christel-5
[08:45] <BluesKaj> anythin beryl
[08:45] <christel-5> ok... going back to failsafe and removing beryl-manager
[08:46] <fisnik> BluesKaj: I have done that already
[08:46] <fisnik> but my max resolution is 60hz
[08:46] <fisnik> I need higher
[08:47] <fisnik> BluesKaj: the konsole before openin the window reports many failures such as bad device
[08:47] <BluesKaj> christel-5, you may have to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  in the terminal to get a properly working graphics driver ...choose fglrx in the list
[08:48] <christel-5> relogged in in normal session... white screen of death! will try to restart instead of re-logging in.
[08:48] <BluesKaj> ignore the bad device fisnik, that's anormal message
[08:49] <BluesKaj> fisnik, don't use the konsole for the commands i gave you , use the run command in the K-menu
[08:51] <pvandewyngaerde> how do i get my 1440x900 @75 Hz ?? i only get it at 60 Hz
[08:51] <loner> desktop freezes after sometime
[08:51] <loner> wats the prob?
[08:52] <christel-5> restarted... still white screen of death in normal session. going back to failsafe to remove the beryl autostart...
[08:52] <dromer> hmm, somehow my Xorg is taking 40% cpu, and I have no idea why ..
[08:52] <fisnik> blueskay: can I use the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[08:52] <fisnik> from the run
[08:53] <BluesKaj> no fisnik , it's better to use that in the terminal
[08:54] <christel-5> relogging in... brief appearance of desktop... white screen of death!
[08:55] <loner> pc freezes
[08:55] <loner> any solutions?
[08:56] <fisnik> blueskay: when I typed sudo dpkg-reconf....
[08:56] <BluesKaj> christel-5, you may have to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  in the terminal to get a properly working graphics driver ...choose fglrx in the list
[08:56] <fisnik> It promts me for some keyboar
[08:56] <fisnik> I dont understand
[08:59] <Karti> loner: I have the same problem...........I need to reboot
[08:59] <Karti> but it only happens when I leave it for sometime
[09:00] <hakaisou> question:  what package would contain mscorelib?
[09:00] <christel-5> doing the reconfigure thingie, since removing the autostart line did not work
[09:00] <hakaisou> question:  what package would contain mscorelib.dll?
[09:04] <BluesKaj> hakaisou, no dll files in linux , that's a windows registry file
[09:04] <hakaisou> bah...
[09:04] <hakaisou> gonna have to do it the hard way then
[09:04] <Karti> dll - library files for WIndows, can contain all sorts...images forms etc
[09:04] <BluesKaj> what are you trying , hakaisou?
[09:05] <hakaisou> visual basic via mono
[09:05] <iarwain_> hiya, anyone know how i can stop my laptop from overheating itself? it gets to 60 withouth starting the fans..
[09:05] <BluesKaj> make sure you have some air circulation under the laptop
[09:06] <Karti> hakaisou: Have a look at http://www.nabble.com/Problem-with-mscorlib.dll-t162730.html
[09:06] <Karti> it may help
[09:10] <iarwain_> hiya, anyone know how i can stop my laptop from overheating itself? it gets to 60 withouth starting the fans..
[09:10] <christel-5> I'm back, having finished the reconfig.
[09:11] <christel-5> restarting from power off
[09:11] <Corey8067> Hey Everyone.. i have a problem... i cant use linux.. i had it on dual boot and it just dissappeard
[09:11] <christel-5> looks like I screwed up my screen!!
[09:14] <christel-5> kubuntu loading
[09:14] <christel-5> loading
[09:14] <christel-5> loading
[09:15] <christel-5> ... sigh... black screen with a blinking prompt...
[09:17] <christel-5> I give up. going to reinstall the whole think tomorrow. I'll work old on this comp tonight for the emergency and will reinstall everything on the powerful one tomorrow or next weekend.
[09:18] <christel-5> BluesKaj: Thanks for trying...
[09:18] <Corey8067> Hey everyone.. i cannot access linux anymore.. the boot thing has disappeared
[09:18] <Corey8067> can anyone help
[09:18] <BluesKaj> christel-5, which graphics driver did you chhose ?
[09:18] <sfire> Corey8067: did you change the drives around?
[09:19] <Corey8067> sfire: no i reinstalled Windows
[09:19] <sfire> Corey8067: example... changing master/slave settings or the IDE chain they are plugged into?
[09:19] <christel-5> ati, since fglrx was not in the list.
[09:19] <sfire> Corey8067: you will have to re-install grub in the boot sector... I don't happen to know how.. sorry
[09:20] <Corey8067> sfire: thanks anyway
[09:20] <BluesKaj> christel-5, , try to get back to the prompt when it's loading by ctrl+alt+F1 and run the reconfig xserver again , this time choose the vesa driver
[09:22] <Corey8067> Does anyone know how to Reinstall Grub??
[09:22] <BluesKaj> christel-5, and 'sudo apt-get install irssi '  so we can talk on irc from the terminal if need be
[09:23] <christel-5> BluesKaj: you love challenges! ok, restarting the machine, just to please you.
[09:23] <BluesKaj>  hehe :)
[09:24] <christel-5> ok. restarted. stupid pro;pt blinking. running the xserver-config thingie
[09:24] <BluesKaj> no t to please me , it's happened to me too and i know some work arounds , that's all ...hate to see a perfectly good kubuntu install be ruined by eye candy
[09:25] <christel-5> attempt to autodetect video hardware? hell yes!
[09:25] <cotyrothery> can someone help me with getting wow to work
[09:25] <christel-5> X server driver? vesa is here, choosing vesa
[09:26] <Drblood> wat u type in the terminal to make sound higher
[09:26] <BluesKaj> choose vesa, christel-5 , it's generic but it'll get you running again
[09:26] <christel-5> identifier for you useless videocard: ATI bla bla
[09:26] <cotyrothery> admiral_chicago how do i get world of warcraft to work
[09:27] <Admiral_Chicago> !wow
[09:27] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[09:27] <Drblood> wat do u type in to make sound louder
[09:27] <Admiral_Chicago> those links should help
[09:27] <Drblood> on the terminal
[09:27] <fisnik> can anybody help me increase resolution and refresh rate for ATI card
[09:27] <cotyrothery> admiral_chicago: thanks
[09:27] <Drblood> wat do u type in on the terminal to make sound louder >_>
[09:28] <christel-5> busId of the video card? no clue, it says PCI:1:0:0... I guess that's correct?
[09:28] <BluesKaj> fisnik , you have to find your card in the the list and configure it in order to do so
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> christel-5: try  alsamixer
[09:28] <Drblood> ok
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> you would use the arrow keys to raise volume
[09:28] <BluesKaj> yeah , just take the defaults , christel-5
[09:29] <christel-5> thanks. carrying on...
[09:29] <fisnik> Blueskay where to find it? can please help me
[09:29] <christel-5> memory for the video card? if I remember well, it was 256. entering 256.
[09:29] <ahsyamim> hello
[09:30] <ahsyamim> can i ask something bout kubuntu?
[09:30] <fisnik> Blueskay where to find it? can u please help me
[09:30] <christel-5> wow! had not realised it's in kB not megs.
[09:31] <Admiral_Chicago> !ask | ahsyamim
[09:31] <ubotu> ahsyamim: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:31] <BluesKaj> fisnik, system settings/ monitor & display/ admin mode / hardware/graphics card configure ...find your card in the list / apply ... then reset the reolution slider
[09:32] <christel-5> use kernel framebuffer device interface? no clue. No is highlighted, but I'll choose yes.
[09:32] <BluesKaj> not always necessary
[09:32] <fisnik> BluesKaj: THe admin mode displays nothing but a red rectangle
[09:32] <ahsyamim> how to install ATI Display driver?
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> !ati
[09:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:33] <ahsyamim> how to know if that its already istall
[09:33] <BluesKaj> doesn't ask for your password, fisnik?
[09:33] <fisnik> bluekay: nope
[09:34] <fisnik> BluesKay: Nope it doesn't and when I click admin mode it only shows a red rectangle, and nothing else in it
[09:34] <claudio_> salve a tutti
[09:34] <BluesKaj> fisnik , in the terminal : dpkg --configure -a
[09:35] <BluesKaj> then reboot or relogin
[09:35] <claudio_> dove posso trovare la lista di altri server?
[09:35] <BluesKaj> !it | claudio_
[09:35] <ubotu> claudio_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:35] <fisnik> BluesKaj: I did it
[09:35] <fisnik> BluesKaj: and now
[09:35] <fisnik> ?
[09:36] <BluesKaj> fisnik, system settings/ monitor & display/ admin mode / hardware/graphics card configure ...find your card in the list / apply ... then reset the reolution slider
[09:36] <BluesKaj> err resolution
[09:38] <premier_> hello, I'm having an issue with alsa, but I don't know how to diagnose it and I don't have much information
[09:38] <christel-5> Blueskaj: finished reconfig. startx.
[09:38] <premier_> basically, it stopped working when i booted last
[09:39] <christel-5> white screen of death!!!
[09:39] <BluesKaj> christel-5, ok relogin in failsafe mode , and use synaptic to remove beryl manager
[09:40] <BluesKaj> or adept
[09:42] <jorik808> how do i stop postgresql from automatically starting up at boot ?
[09:45] <fisnik> BluesKay I finally managed to change the resolution
[09:45] <BluesKaj> oops sorry christel-5, 'sudo apt-get remove berylmanager'
[09:45] <fisnik> thank you very much indeed
[09:45] <BluesKaj> fisnik, :)
[09:46] <fisnik> Blueskay: Now it is working really well, I've been here for more tha 2 hours just trying to fix the damn thing
[09:46] <BluesKaj> you found your graphics card ok then
[09:46] <fisnik> blueskay: thanx again
[09:46] <BluesKaj> np fisnik
[09:48] <sebastianhooker> ;)
[09:48] <jhutchins> fisnik: All it takes is persistence and the time for somebody to come along who knows your particular problem.
[09:49] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Didn't you used to be quite the noob a while ago?
[09:49] <BluesKaj> still am , just wrote few things down , jhutchins
[09:49] <jhutchins> See?
[09:50] <christel-5> BlueSkaj: busy removing everything beryl. could be a while since I do it one package at a time. wb btw, was in mourning for a while
[09:50] <fisnik> jhutchins: this ATI was driving me mad today
[09:50] <DaSkreech> hi BluesKaj
[09:50] <jhutchins> That's how it goes, you think you're the newbie, then you start to realize you're getting to have the hang of it, then you realize you're answering more questions than you ask.
[09:50] <BluesKaj> i have text file with commands for problems that i've encountered :)
[09:50] <jhutchins> Schmart buoy.
[09:51] <BluesKaj> yup,,,well I'm an old techie actually jhutchins ...retired labtech guy
[09:52] <jhutchins> Us old guys learn tricks like taking notes.
[09:52] <BluesKaj> hi DaSkreech ...how goes it ?
[09:52] <BluesKaj> yup, gotta take notes ...got into the habit yrs ago
[09:52] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Not too bad how are you?
[09:53] <BluesKaj> good thx , DaSkreech
[09:55] <BluesKaj> christel-5, i tried the failsafe mode and realized it's the prompt so apt was the only alternative to remove the offending apps :)
[09:55] <christel-5> BlueSkaj: okaaay. There shouldn't be a shred of beryl left, I used the aptitude comd. Don't even want to think about compiz. shall I try reloging now?
[09:56] <BluesKaj> beryl should be banned on ati cards ...it doesn more damage than good :)
[09:56] <BluesKaj> did you do compiz too ?
[09:56] <mattsqz> ati needs to get on the ball
[09:56] <mattsqz> 1250 in 3dmark for hd2400 vs 1600 in 3dmark for nvidia 8400 :(
[09:57] <BluesKaj> dump compiz if possible , never done it so maybe one of the other guys can help here
[09:57] <mattsqz> they better have some bitchin multiplatform drivers hidden in their pants
[09:57] <christel-5> yeap. that's what all the sites said. but a lionux user has 200% curiosity more than the average human...it's the wet paint syndrom: a normal person when it says wet paint will stay away. a linux user has to poke to see if it's reaaaaally wet...
[09:57] <keldon85> finally a kubuntu build that installed without ANY hiccups!
[09:58] <BluesKaj> christel-5, well try a relogin ...i guess ..if compiz is till lingering dunno what may happen
[10:00] <christel-5> won't try to remove compiz: apt-get is aking if I really want to remove the ubuntu-desktop... answer is no, thanks.
[10:00] <christel-5> relogging in
[10:01] <christel-5> choosing normal kde session
[10:01] <christel-5> loading
[10:01] <christel-5> so far so good
[10:01] <christel-5> Qapla'
[10:02] <BluesKaj> ?
[10:02] <ahsyamim> !ASK how to enable rendering???
[10:02] <ahsyamim> !ASK how to enable rendering???
[10:02] <christel-5> Beloved desktop is here and stable. Oh joy! oh rapture! I don't even dare testing the kb or mouse... shall I? yes!
[10:03] <christel-5> mouse working
[10:03] <christel-5> keyboard working
[10:03] <ahsyamim> -------------- how to enable rendering???
[10:03] <dwidmann> mattsqz: actually, AMD needs to get on that ball, seeing as they bought ATI.
[10:03] <Daisuke_Ido> ahsyamim: define rendering
[10:04] <christel-5> blueskaj, when you're next in south africa we'll go see the lions and gireffe. it's on me! alternatively: will you marry me?
[10:04] <Daisuke_Ido> i could say to install blender and that will let you render, but if that's not the type of rendering you're talking about, it's not very helpful
[10:04] <BluesKaj> christel-5, not necessary, just glad to help :)
[10:05] <BluesKaj> ok folks ..gotta go do some errands ... BBL
[10:05] <javier> Hello
[10:05] <christel-5> well, I'm forever grateful.
[10:05] <ahsyamim> TRIED TO PLAY BOSON
[10:05] <ahsyamim> BUT TO LAG
[10:06] <chloris> Hello, may I ask a question? How can I remove a single-pixel border around the kicker? I set a kicker background to dark-blue texture and one-pixel line is above the kicker. The kicker has also one-pixel bigger height than set... Anybody ?
[10:06] <ahsyamim> ITS SAID THAT RENDERING IS DISABLE
[10:06] <javier> Guys I need some hellp please
[10:07] <dwidmann> !ask | javier
[10:07] <ubotu> javier: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:08] <javier> I cant modify some documents, I'm new yo linux
[10:08] <Admiral_Chicago> ahsyamim: stop using caps. we can read lower case as well
[10:08] <javier> I was told to log as root in console, but even if i'm logged in as root in console it doesent works
[10:08] <Daisuke_Ido> ahsyamim: please turn off caps.  It is not, contrary to popular belief, "cruise control for cool."
[10:08] <Admiral_Chicago> javier: sudo
[10:08] <DaSkreech> christel-5: and if they can get the recipe for the paint so they can add gentoo penguin orange
[10:09] <ahsyamim> sorry
[10:09] <christel-5> soooo right! lol
[10:09] <Admiral_Chicago> ahsyamim: you proably need the ATI driver, did you enable it and restart X?
[10:09] <javier> sudo kedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common    NOT WORKS
[10:09] <Daisuke_Ido> but it sounds like you need the 3d drivers
[10:09] <Daisuke_Ido> and Admiral_Chicago beat me to it
[10:10] <Daisuke_Ido> javier: try kate instead
[10:10] <Daisuke_Ido> instead of kedit
[10:10] <Admiral_Chicago> javier: in run command?
[10:10] <javier> In console
[10:10] <Admiral_Chicago> kdesu kate <filename>
[10:10] <DaSkreech> ahsyamim: What video card do you have?
[10:11] <javier> I tried doing it by just looking the file and opening, but it says i cant modify the file
[10:11] <javier> ATI x800gto
[10:11] <Daisuke_Ido> javier: hence sudo/kdesu/etc
[10:11] <chloris> nobody has not a dark texture on background of kicker?
[10:11] <Daisuke_Ido> run as superuser
[10:11] <javier> with su?
[10:11] <Kr4t05> Is there a simple and easy way to get a screenshot of KDM?
[10:11] <keldon85> !tell java
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about  tell java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <keldon85> !java
[10:12] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:12] <dwidmann> chloris: well, I don't ... I've always gone the transparency route
[10:12] <Daisuke_Ido> javier: have you been reading ANYTHING anyone's said?
[10:12] <Admiral_Chicago> Kr4t05: Virtualization
[10:12] <javier> I was told to log with "su" as a superuser, butit still doednt works
[10:12] <Daisuke_Ido> kdesu kate /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[10:12] <Kr4t05> Admiral_Chicago: Eh...
[10:12] <Kr4t05> That's a helluva lot of work for one screenshot...
[10:12] <chloris> chloris: yes, when i set bg of kicker to transparent the border is gone
[10:13] <Admiral_Chicago> Kr4t05: works easily and quickly for me once I had Vbox running
[10:13] <DaSkreech> javier: what is that file for?
[10:13] <chloris> dwidmann: yes, when i set bg of kicker to transparent the border is gone
[10:13] <chloris> :-)
[10:13] <Kr4t05> Admiral_Chicago: Pardon?
[10:13] <dwidmann> that got rid of it? Neat
[10:14] <javier> to deactivate fglrx
[10:14] <ahsyamim> DaSkreech: i hav ATI Radeon X1600 or X1300
[10:14] <DaSkreech> !ati | ahsyamim
[10:14] <ubotu> ahsyamim: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:15] <chloris> yes
[10:16] <Kr4t05> Admiral_Chicago: I'm merely looking to get a screenshot of a custom KDM theme so I can add it to KDE-Look.
[10:16] <Kr4t05> There has to be an easier way than setting up a VM.
[10:16] <nixternal> Kr4t05: if you want, I can grab a screeny for you if you don't feel like setting up vmware or vbox
[10:17] <Kr4t05> nixternal: How?
[10:17] <nixternal> I don't know if you can set imagemagick and import to get a screeny
[10:17] <nixternal> I use vbox
[10:17] <nixternal> you might be able to set imagemagic up to import an image. say sleep 30 and then run it
[10:17] <dwidmann> vmware-server was also dirt easy to set-up in feisty ... it's in the canonical commercial repository
[10:17] <nixternal> so when you get to kdm, ctrl+alt+f1 to get tot he term
[10:18] <nixternal> sleep 30; import foo &
[10:18] <nixternal> that might work, but I just don't know
[10:18] <Kr4t05> nixternal: I'll try it. Thanks
[10:19] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: i though you were talking to me about KDE 4 ... though we were in -chicago so I was thinking we were telling me all these weird commands...
[10:20] <nixternal> shoooo fly
[10:22] <fisnik> can someone help me with AMSN on kubuntu
[10:22] <fisnik> I see very bad window - blurred and small fonts
[10:24] <Karti> Kr4t05: Why not just use Ksnapshot
[10:24] <Karti> Its under the Graphics enu
[10:24] <fisnik> can someone help me with AMSN on kubuntu??
[10:25] <fisnik> it pops up very wierd
[10:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Karti: because ksnapshot isn't going to get a screenshot of kdm?
[10:26] <Karti> what do you mean?
[10:27] <Karti> what do you want to screenshot?
[10:27] <jthomas> fisnik: i cannot help, never tried it; but Kopete works well and its KDE-native
[10:27] <Kr4t05> Karti: KDM, The login screen.
[10:27] <Kr4t05> Ugh...
[10:27] <Karti> Ahh....
[10:27] <Karti> I see
[10:28] <Karti> With my knowledge (limited) I would only do that in VMWare unless you can record the screen and do a test with the startup screen
[10:28] <fisnik> ok
[10:28] <Karti> and capture remove the image you want
[10:34] <Drblood> how do u turn up the system volume again on the terminal >_>
[10:36] <Drblood> hello?
[10:36] <Daisuke_Ido> alsamixer
[10:38] <eriefisher> not much going on here today?
[10:38] <Drblood> ok
[10:46] <rodrigo> what's up guys
[10:47] <rodrigo> any one can give some info about acteck graphic tablets and ubuntu?
[10:47] <rodrigo> more precisally drivers of this hardware
[10:48] <payam> is there som program for Freecalls?
[10:53] <nullkuhl> guys  i have 2 question ,, how to send a file using blue tooth in gnome,, and how to change the booting splash of ubuntu using usplash
[10:57] <Daisuke_Ido> 1) bih, and 2) gfy
[10:58] <rodrigo> drigo> hello guys does any one of you knows the acteck graphic tablets?
[10:58] <rodrigo> [15:54]  <rodrigo> I don't know if kubuntu have drivers that support them
[11:05] <M3L> Hey, quick question if someone has time to answer... I have two sound cards of which on eis external Hercules Dj Console and I would like to set it to be the default, where can I do this ?
[11:19] <mitch_> hey, can someone tell me where the IP configuration happens in the Wireless Sign on process?
[11:20] <adaptr> it doesn't
[11:20] <adaptr> wifi is the "physical" layer below IP
[11:23] <savetheWorld> mitch_:  are you referring to DHCP where a wireless client needs to hav an IP assigned?
[11:24] <mitch_> so what would make my IP configuration happen in 2.6.20-15 and not happen under 2.6.20-16?
[11:24] <mitch_> yes savethe World
[11:25] <mitch_> everything works fine in 20-15.....but i don;t get IP assigned in 2-16
[11:26] <mitch_> theres gotta be something 20-16 changed that i should be able to determine and correct
[11:28] <corpuscallosum> hi guys
[11:28] <corpuscallosum> i need a program that i controll my cpu and my cpu fan
[11:28] <corpuscallosum> is there any programme ?
[11:30] <mitch_> no one has any ideas what it could be?
[11:31] <gon> !wmv
[11:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:33] <mitch_> anyone?
[11:33] <damianos_> hi
[11:33] <damianos_> Could somebody help me
[11:34] <Dr_willis> depends on the problem. :)
[11:34] <damianos_> I am trying to find solution to make a video conference with my wife ...She's got windows xp and I have ofcurse kubuntu
[11:34] <damianos_> I tried amsn
[11:34] <damianos_> twinkle
[11:34] <damianos_> kopete
[11:35] <Dr_willis> I though GAIm (now called somthing else can do that)
[11:35] <mitch_> Could somebody help me?
[11:35] <Dr_willis> !gaim
[11:35] <damianos_> Gaim - you mean that it is possible to see her and hear her ?
[11:35] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[11:35] <Dr_willis> I though that was a new feature of Gaim.  but ive never used it.
[11:35] <damianos_> kopete doesn't work properly
[11:36] <Dr_willis> I consider the webcam video chat stuff useless.. since the video is so well.. useless. :)
[11:36] <damianos_> I can only see her without voice chat
[11:36] <keldon85> !kmenu
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmenu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <keldon85> !menu
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about menu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <damianos_> Notice that I wrote that I would like to videoconference not webcam
[11:36] <lupon1> Salve a tutti !!!
[11:36] <keldon85> how do you make the kde menu update properly after installs?
[11:37] <Dr_willis> keldon85,  in most cases it should. If it dosent. ya can try logging out/back in to make it rescan the menus
[11:37] <damianos_> Dr_willis: I agree webcam is useless but i didn't see my wife for a month :|
[11:37] <Dr_willis> there may be some other kick-ig-in-the-head-way
[11:37] <mitch_> do i smell bad or something>
[11:37] <mitch_> ?
[11:38] <Dr_willis> damianos_,  use webcam to see her.. and text chat? or use some other progrma to voice chat :) is one way I guess
[11:38] <keldon85> Dr_willis: yes, but there is also a way to do it via the command line without logging out
[11:38] <damianos_> I tried it
[11:38] <Dr_willis> keldon85,   people in #kde may rember. I dont.
[11:38] <damianos_> Webcam and skype but there is something wrong with voice connection
[11:39] <damianos_> so that is way i am trying to find two in one program
[11:39] <damianos_> voice and video
[11:39] <damianos_> What I shame that Skype cannot release video for linux
[11:39] <rodrigo> hello guys
[11:40] <keldon85> oh wait it didn't install; I had a failed apt update!
[11:41] <damianos_> does anybody know some solution to videoconference in linux ?
[11:41] <damianos_> I mean voice and video together ?
[11:42] <mitch_> this is probably why people keep windows....
[11:43] <damianos_> Hmm.. I have to install windows
[11:44] <Armahg> Hello, I have Kubuntu installed on my gateway laptop and would like to partition it so I can have a dual boot machine with windows...  I know I can use qtparted for the partitioning and install windows on the new partition
[11:44] <Armahg> Is there anything else i should watch out for? (installing windows XP by the way)
[11:45] <Dr_willis> installing xp will trash the linux grub boot loader.
[11:45] <Dr_willis> you will need to reinstall the grub mbr under linux afterwards
[11:46] <Armahg> ummm ... is there a website with instructions for that? or do i just boot from a live CD and do the install
[11:46] <Dr_willis> !grub
[11:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:46] <Armahg> thx!!
[11:46] <Dr_willis> boot live cd, chroot over to existing install, run grub-install
[11:46] <Armahg> ok .. will do
[11:49] <corpuscallosum> hi guys i need a program that i control my cpu speed and fan
[11:49] <corpuscallosum> have any idea ?
[11:51] <TheGateKeeper> Armahg: another possibility run windows as a virtual machine http://www.virtualbox.org/
[11:51] <Dr_willis> Hmm. On my laptop - there was some kdeapplet in installed that did the cpu throtteling
[11:51] <Dr_willis> no idea about fan speed.
[11:51] <Armahg> i already do that
[11:51] <ubuntu> gentlemens!
[11:51] <Dr_willis> Where?
[11:51] <inbitado34> hi, how do i conect to undernet with kinversation ???
[11:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:52] <Armahg> actually come to think of it ... a friend of mine also mentioned wine
[11:52] <Armahg> so meaybe i don't need windows ...
[11:52] <Dr_willis>  - undernet irc server? could use the command /server whateverundernetis.org
[11:52] <premier_> Hi, I'm having trouble with alsa... it just stopped working last night after I rebooted... I had been messing with alsa earlier, and now I can't fix it
[11:52] <Armahg> i think its because i miss virus attacks
[11:52] <Armahg> or something along those lines
[11:52] <premier_> http://pastebin.ca/559748
[11:52] <Dr_willis> or there may be some undernet servers set up in the server dialog/connection area.
[11:52] <ubuntu> i have a need to run fsck on a reiserfs volume and I'm currently booted to my live cd and my filesystem i need to run fsck on is /dev/sdb3 the correct command in terminal would be reiserfsck --check /dev/sdb3 ?
[11:53] <premier_> heret|c: if no one knows, see what man reiserfsck says
[11:54] <ubuntu> ok
[11:54] <HymnToLife> ubuntu, yet, you can also run fsck /dev/sdb3, it will detect that it's reiserfs and call reiserfsck
[11:54] <ubuntu> but thats not me..
[11:54] <heret|c> premier_: i never asked about reiserfs
[11:54] <premier_> lol
[11:54] <HymnToLife> yes*
[11:54] <Dr_willis> ive never used reiserfs
[11:54] <premier_> ubuntu_ is now known as heret|c.
[11:54] <premier_> my mistake
[11:54] <Karti> Kr4t05: sorry about this but you can use kscreenshot. It has a timer delay. Itried it with the splash screen and it works
[11:54] <ubuntu> thanks premier_
[11:54] <heret|c> i'm a slackware guy. just wanted to see what allt he ubuntu fuss was about
[11:55] <Dr_willis> Usage: reiserfsck [mode]  [options]   device
[11:55] <Graham> I just introduced my mother to kubuntu
[11:56] <premier_> heret|c: well, idk, I've only used kubuntu and mepis... but I don't think I could operate a computer without apt.  I'm useless at resolving dependencys or compiling tarballs... I'd rather have my OS work *for* me
[11:56] <neptunepink> does anyone here know how to make [gx] dm execute a particular script when you login?
[11:56] <HymnToLife> (mostly because I also run it on mine and it's nice for ditributed compiling :p)
[11:56] <Dr_willis> neptunepink,  that would proberly be more of a feature of the window manager you are loading, not gdm
[11:56] <Graham> But that's the ease of Kubuntu, I just told her what the programs were for, and she seems fairly happy with it.
[11:56] <neptunepink> Dr_willis: I want it to run a script _instead of_ a wm
[11:57] <Dr_willis> or ya could always do some changes to the system X startup scripts
[11:57] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis: wouldn't it be possible to add it to the startup script?
[11:57] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, that.
[11:57] <Dr_willis> neptunepink,  make a .desktop script for that script then and have GDM  load it.
[11:57] <Daisuke_Ido> :D
[11:57] <Dr_willis> depends on EXACTLY what you are trying to do.
[11:57] <Graham> Anybody here get their parents on Linux?
[11:57] <HymnToLife> yep :p
[11:57] <Karti> Graham: Sorry I got mine on Ebay.....
[11:58] <Daisuke_Ido> Graham: do grandparents count?
[11:58] <neptunepink> Dr_willis: where does the file go?
[12:00] <Dr_willis> neptunepink,  gdm and kdm both read a list of  ####.desktop files - which add entries to their 'sessions' menu
[12:00] <Dr_willis> try a 'locate gnome.desktop' i forget where they are at exactly. the gdm and kdm config files dictate where they look
[12:01] <neptunepink> Dr_willis: that got it, /usr/share/xsessions
[12:01] <heret|c> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t smbfs "//the-heretic/My Music" music
[12:01] <heret|c> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //the-heretic/My Music,
[12:01] <heret|c>        missing codepage or other error
[12:02] <Graham> Daisuke_Ido: Yeah, infact you get more points for grandparents because they're even more technically void.
[12:02] <Karti> night all.....
[12:03] <shiers69> I recently have tried to install kubuntu to replace win2k3 on my server, after the installation completes successfully and i attempt to boot from the scsi hd it fails to load the os, it's just a hunch, but i think grub may have been installed on a different drive
[12:03] <shiers69> any ideas?
[12:03] <Dr_willis> neptunepink,  yea i was looking in /etc/ :) heh..
[12:03] <Daisuke_Ido> actually, i think it's the other way around
[12:04] <Daisuke_Ido> grandparents (mine anyway) just check and send mail, and surf the web some.
[12:04] <Dr_willis> shiers69,  if you dont see any grub menu at all.. it proberly got put in the wrong place.
[12:04] <Dr_willis> !grub
[12:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:04] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't think it would matter what OS they were using
[12:04] <Dr_willis> shiers69,  ya could switch the boot order of the hd's in the bios and see if ya can get it working
[12:05] <shiers69> i could, but i really want grub on the same drive as the os, is there a way to check to see where it installed and uninstall it?
[12:06] <Dr_willis> as far as Uninstalling goes.. you would install a differetn boot loader over it.
[12:06] <Dr_willis> This is when a good reading of the grub homepage/docs comes in handy. :)
[12:07] <shiers69> i also noticed the advanced button during installation, "Help for GRUB selection goes here" and the default is hda0
[12:07] <shiers69> i think it should be set to something else, but don't know what sda corresponds to
[12:09] <Dr_willis> the  /boot/grub/device.map  shows what drives are 'where' from a grub point of view
[12:09] <Dr_willis> !qtwindowmaker
[12:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtwindowmaker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <Marga2002> bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[12:09] <Dr_willis> !qt
[12:09] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[12:10] <Marga2002> bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[12:11] <kharloss> hi there.  i want a kde desktop over a fresh server install .  how can i do this ?
[12:12] <Dr_willis> install kubuntu-desktop - and GOOD luck. :0
[12:12] <kharloss> i do this
[12:12] <kharloss> but nothing happened
[12:12] <kharloss> i try startx  too
[12:12] <Dr_willis> seems the last few people ive seen that wanted to go from a server-install to a full desktop. always have little issues.
[12:13] <kharloss> nothing
[12:13] <Dr_willis> you do 'what' ?