[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119763 in enigmail (main) "upgrade to feisty breaks decryption with enigmail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119763
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #119764 in firefox (main) "many sites unbrowseable with firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119764
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119766 in gnomebaker (universe) "Wrong spelling in message Polish translation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119766
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119767 in xaralx (multiverse) "xaralx is unusable on feisty ppc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119767
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119768 in gnomebaker (universe) "GnomeBaker menu Polish translation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119768
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #119769 in gthumb (main) "Hot Keys feature: special shell characters not escaped in %f macros" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119769
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119770 in desktop-effects (main) "Wrong label of button" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119770
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119771 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "Restricted Drivers Manager not working with Mobilty Radeon 9700 - Ubuntu 7.10 Alpha 1 (32 bit)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119771
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #119772 in update-notifier (main) "update-notifier thinks locally built packages are upgradeable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119772
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119773 in Ubuntu "i915 DRM module not recognizing I945GM for Gutsy Tribe 1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119773
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119774 in Ubuntu "allow the use authenticated smb shares without editing /ect/fstab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119774
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119775 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119775
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119776 in amarok (main) "amarok playlist error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119776
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119777 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Not work network controller: RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119777
[05:56] <ubotu> New bug: #119778 in Ubuntu "error message : missing directory  "/var/run/cups/certs"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119778
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119779 in gtk-gnutella (universe) "gtk-gnutella segfaults every time it is run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119779
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119782 in Ubuntu "Lose Bluetooth At Gnome Start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119782
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119783 in rhythmbox (main) "Usability: Rythmbox bogs the user with zillions of error boxes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119783
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119784 in Ubuntu "Can't increase resolution with ATI Radeon 9600 & Hyundai L90D+ in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119784
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119785 in hal (main) "Feisty CD_RW__CRX830E doesnt read DVDs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119785
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119787 in Ubuntu "unmounting usb devices via kde desktop icons problematic (feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119787
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119790 in gnome-app-install (main) "Add/Remove Applications should tell you if a program's localized to your language" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119790
[09:03] <dholbach> good morning
[09:04] <coNP> guten morgen dholbach :)
[09:04] <dholbach> hey coNP
[09:04] <thekorn> hi dholbach
[09:04] <dholbach> hey thekorn
[09:04] <dholbach> thekorn: how's it going?
[09:05] <thekorn> dholbach: fine, nice weekend, started some work on py-lp-bugs
[09:05] <dholbach> rock and roll
[09:05] <thekorn> sftp://thekorn@bazaar.launchpad.net/~thekorn/python-launchpad-bugs/api.changes.gsoc/ is the branch
[09:06] <dholbach> asac, pitti and keescook are all anxious to hear about it :)
[09:06] <dholbach> if you want me to give it a review, let me know
[09:07] <jovans> is there a kernel update soon for feisty?
[09:07] <thekorn> dholbach: I think the new Buglist module is working well, I added "api_test_Buglist.py" to show the features
[09:07] <dholbach> woah
[09:07] <dholbach> great work
[09:08] <thekorn> that was the easier part, the Bug class might be harder as it is more complex
[09:19] <coNP> What is the proper way to get emacs22 in Ubuntu?
[09:19] <coNP> Should I file a bug report?
[09:21] <persia> coNP: The first step is to file a bug (tag: upgrade).  Then, check if there is an upgrade bug in Debian, and link it.  After that, check if Debian will upload soon, in which case you want to wait.  If Debian will not upload soon, and you want to package it, ask in #ubuntu-motu about updating a package to a new upstream version.
[09:23] <dholbach> hey mvo
[09:23] <mvo> hey dholbach
[09:25] <coNP> thanks persia
[09:25] <coNP> however emacs is a main package
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119794 in ltsp-manager (universe) "missing dependencie on python-ltsp (dup-of: 104391)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119794
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #32324 in dcc (universe) "dcc-client configuration fails / security problem?" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/32324
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119795 in Ubuntu "Please include Emacs22 in Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119795
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119796 in openbox (universe) "Please include Openbox 3.4.2 in Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119796
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119797 in baobab (universe) "Baobab doesn't show the real disk usage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119797
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #119798 in gtkpod (universe) "gtkpod should work out of the box" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119798
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119799 in treeline (universe) "It dies when you right click" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119799
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #119800 in update-notifier (main) "update-notifier makes X crash and nautilus complain about bonobo-activation-server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119800
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119802 in baobab (universe) "GiBibyte and Gigabyte problem with the french translation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119802
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119803 in kdemultimedia (main) "kmix doesn't respect volume levels" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119803
[11:06] <coNP> if I provided a bugfix debdiff to an application in main is whom should I subscribe?
[11:08] <coNP> by the way lionel suggested that the patch might go directly to the bzr repo, how could I do this?
[11:08] <Arby> coNP: I would assume the maintainer of the relevant package
[11:08] <Arby> although launchpad may do that anyway I'm not sure
[11:08] <coNP> I guess there are no package maintainers in Ubuntu (or is it only true for Universe)?
[11:08] <lionel> coNP: I think the best way for apport is ask pitti
[11:08] <crimsun> coNP: ubuntu-main-sponsors LP team
[11:09] <coNP> thanks crimsun, then first I ask pitti which way to choose
[11:10] <lionel> coNP: apport is special. It's an Ubuntu tool that we maintain, so all changes have to go first, in the bzr repo
[11:11] <coNP> yep, the other patch I created is for update-manager
[11:11] <coNP> I guess the same holds for that
[11:12] <mvo> coNP: update-manager please directly to me
[11:12] <mvo> coNP: I maintain it in bzr, so I really like to keep the uploaded packages and the bzr repo in sync
[11:12] <coNP> mvo: bug 114207
[11:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114207 in update-manager "Window title is not marked for translation" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114207
[11:13] <mvo> coNP: cool, thanks!
[11:13] <coNP> apport to pitti then?
[11:13] <mvo> yes
[11:16] <Arby> coNP must have really long arms :)
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119806 in Ubuntu "some alternatives are missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119806
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119808 in dcc (universe) "Warnings (read/password) during installation of dcc-common" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119808
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119809 in glibc (main) "Race condition during unwind code after thread cancellation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119809
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119810 in evolution (main) "Files with international characters in the filename don't save properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119810
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119812 in rest2web (universe) "syntax error on apt-get install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119812
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119813 in Ubuntu "gnome mouse settings don't affect touchpad configuration" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119813
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119814 in firefox (main) "/usr/share/doc/firefox/MPL missing in gutsy package" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119814
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119815 in Ubuntu "launchpad send bug report reply via email does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119815
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #119816 in Ubuntu "Problem: The project uses the Java Platform called "Motorola iDEN SDK for J2ME(TM) Technology", but this platform was not found." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119816
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #116981 in restricted-manager "r-d-m fails if modules have been manually disabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116981
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #119817 in thunderbird (main) "Does not offer to open Excel spreadsheets with Openoffice.org" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119817
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119818 in Ubuntu "wpa does not work with networkmanager, WEP works" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119818
[01:17] <ubotu> New bug: #119819 in sane-backends (main) "scanimage -L crashes with HP ScanJet 4100c" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119819
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #118281 in adept (main) "Kernel upgrade - System restart required" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118281
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119821 in dh-make (main) "dh_make does not follow blueprint" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119821
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119822 in aptitude (main) "aptitude should respect standardized units" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119822
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119823 in gnome-print (universe) "Unable to specify custom PPD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119823
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119824 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "No harddisks after resume from sleep with ata_piix" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119824
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119825 in Ubuntu "installer created syntactically incorrect fstab given partition names containing spaces" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119825
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119826 in Ubuntu "Fn key doen not work on compaq presario laptop in Xubuntu feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119826
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119827 in alsamixergui (universe) "2.6.20-16 update loses sound capability" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119827
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119828 in linux-meta (main) "Intel Wireless 4965 A/G/N Card Drivers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119828
[02:54] <pygi> bdmurray, poke
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119829 in java-common (main) "Java crashes running ldap browser" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119829
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119830 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice 2.2 crushed after closing pps application in Ubuntu 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119830
[02:56] <pygi> hey Hobbsee :)
[02:56] <Hobbsee> hiya!
[02:56] <pygi> how are you today? ^_^
[02:56] <Hobbsee> doing pretty well :)
[02:56] <pygi> glad to hear
[02:56] <Hobbsee> work didnt turn out to be hell, as it was expected to be
[02:56] <Hobbsee> so that was good :)
[02:57] <pygi> :P
[03:00] <calc> Hobbsee: good morning :)
[03:00] <Hobbsee> hey calc, how's it going?  :)
[03:00] <calc> Hobbsee: doing great :)
[03:00] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119831 in cupsys (main) "Installing custom ppd dosen't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119831
[03:00] <pygi> so not good =)
[03:01] <Hobbsee> erk
[03:01] <Hobbsee> i have 3 over hte next 2 weeks
[03:01] <pygi> meh, one of my exams tomorrow
[03:03] <pygi> bdmurray, when you get time, pls poke
[03:03] <pygi> (or just approve me to ubuntu-qa team)
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119832 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "PERC 5i driver bug in Edgy. Drives go offline after writing 7+ gigabytes." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119832
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119833 in gtk-recordmydesktop (universe) "UI problem while encoding video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119833
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119836 in thunderbird (main) "Latest version hungs after downloading new mail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119836
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119835 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Wireless kill switch not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119835
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119837 in openoffice.org (main) "Printing booklet with multiple portrait and landscape pages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119837
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119838 in language-pack-en-base (main) "language-pack-en-base will not install during dist-upgrade to 7.04 from 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119838
[03:31] <mikkael> i filed this bug here, but its invalid..how do i remove it ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106205
[03:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 106205 in linux-source-2.6.20 "system freeze" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[03:32] <Hobbsee> mikkael: click on  linux-source-2.6.20 (ubuntu), change the status to rejected, hit save changes
[03:32] <mikkael> thanks
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119839 in Ubuntu "skype (core dumped)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119839
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119840 in shntool (universe) "shntool: new upstream major release version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119840
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119841 in gnome-panel (main) "Menu bar moved to right side unexpectedly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119841
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119842 in shntool (universe) "Please sync shntool (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119842
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119843 in kicad (universe) "Cannot open kicad help files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119843
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #119845 in python-stdlib-extensions (main) "import OpenGL.Tk segfault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119845
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119848 in cryptsetup (universe) "no longer creates non-LUKS partitions." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119848
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119849 in util-linux (main) "[gutsy]  mount -o remount no stopped to work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119849
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119851 in kdebase (main) "[gutsy]  kdm gives error on anything but "start"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119851
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119856 in gnome-terminal (main) "dpkg was interupted you must mnnually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119856
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119862 in kdevelop3 (universe) "KDevelop crashes randomly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119862
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119861 in totem (main) "error on playing wmv" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119861
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119865 in pidgin (main) "Typo in italian transaltion" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119865
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #119868 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu: scp crashes with File size limit exceeded " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119868
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #119869 in firefox (main) "mojilla firefox crashes very often" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119869
[05:30] <coNP> The Ubuntu Wiki states (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#head-fb119da008af90df2a8efdc1e7b093af95deb720) that launchpad.net/rosetta is the proper place to manage translations, however, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu seems to be a better starting place. What do you think, should this be changed?
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119872 in python-launchpad-bugs (main) "BugList's filters do not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119872
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119873 in gnupg2 (main) "[gutsy]  Rebuild with libcurl4-gnutls" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119873
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119874 in python-launchpad-bugs (main) "please support marking a bug as duplicate" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119874
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119875 in k3b (main) "K3B 1.0.0 can't rip any DVD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119875
[05:32] <persia> coNP: please
[05:32] <coNP> persia: okay I'm going to fix this
[05:33] <persia> coNP: You might consider a link of the form [https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu Rosetta]  (if I remember the syntax correctly).
[05:34] <persia> coNP: That way you can have a nice sentence like: "Ubuntu translations are managed in Rosetta", with Rosetta as a link.
[05:34] <coNP> persia: thanks, nice idea
[05:35] <persia> coNP: Thanks for noticing and fixing it.
[05:35] <coNP> however not entirely good
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119876 in python-launchpad-bugs (main) "please support deleting attachments" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119876
[05:35] <coNP> because we want to have the link in the message so that we can copy-paste it as an answer
[05:35] <coNP> therefore an explicit link is needed, launchpad does not recognize that this has been pasted from a wiki page
[05:36] <persia> !translations seems a better solution to that, in my opinion.
[05:36] <coNP> what do you mean by that?
[05:36] <persia> !translations
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about translations - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <persia> coNP: It's apparently not implemented, but telling ubotu about translations (with a full URL) so that people don't have to copy & paste from the wiki.
[05:37] <coNP> I guess many people copy-paste stock responses from the wiki
[05:38] <persia> coNP: Sorry.  Wrong context.  You're absolutely correct.
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119877 in evolution-exchange (main) "evolution-exchange doesn't support Exchange 2007 OWA" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119877
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119879 in nautilus (main) "Boomarks adds folders but doesnt show them on the left pane" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119879
[06:11] <ubotu> New bug: #119881 in dosfstools (main) "Please sync dosfstools (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119881
[06:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119863 in gnome-panel (main) "Just about to fall sleep mouse click and this" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119863
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119619 in pidgin (main) "fail, crashes on logout" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119619
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119883 in Ubuntu "Mouse keys can remain active when enable keyboard accessibility features is disabled in AccessX" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119883
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119885 in rdiff-backup (main) "rdiff-backup crashes while accessing old data" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119885
[06:37] <dholbach> thekorn: I reviewed your api changes briefly and dropped you a mail
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119886 in evolution (main) "Evolution loses connection with microsoft exchange server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119886
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #119887 in apt-file (universe) "merged package contains spurious files" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119887
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #119889 in awffull (universe) "Segfault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119889
[07:08] <pygi> bdmurray, poke
[07:08] <bdmurray> pygi: hello
[07:08] <pygi> bdmurray, hey ^_^
[07:09] <pygi> bdmurray, mind approving me for membership? ^_^
[07:09] <coNP> why is hug day on -devel and not here?
[07:09] <bdmurray> coNP: We have been trying that to get more developers involved
[07:10] <coNP> thanks bdmurray
[07:10] <bdmurray> We are still testing / evaluating it
[07:10] <pygi> bdmurray, in ubuntu-qa ofcourse =)
[07:11] <bdmurray> pygi: is your launchpad user name also pygi?
[07:11] <pygi> bdmurray, mario-danic
[07:16] <bdmurray> pygi: could you mail the QA application, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuQA , to me and I'll review today
[07:17] <pygi> bdmurray, meh, I was part of QA already ages ago, it's just that I quit :)
[07:18] <pygi> there's the application bdmurray ^_^
[07:20] <Hobbsee> oh darn, mvo's not here
[07:21] <pygi> Hobbsee, true. what ya need out of him?
[07:21] <bdmurray> pygi: I'd like to see some of your triaging work though.  Could you mail me some bugs you've worked on or put them on some cut & paste site?
[07:21] <pygi> bdmurray, sure, why not :)
[07:21] <Hobbsee> pygi: i'd like to make a change to dput, and he's the last one who's uploaded it
[07:23] <Hobbsee> er...okay, dput doesnt seem to be done in revu anymore
[07:23] <pygi> bdmurray, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/ (all those, including closed ones), https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libisofs (closed bug)
[07:23] <pygi> should be enough? :)
[07:23] <pygi> (with a fix ofcourse :))
[07:24] <Hobbsee> sorry, bzr.  i wonder why
[07:24] <pygi> Hobbsee, hm? :)
[07:25] <pygi> Hobbsee, hm, I've got a question
[07:25] <Hobbsee> pygi: i'm wondering why dput isnt beign maintained in bzr anymore.
[07:25] <Hobbsee> pygi: shoot
[07:25] <pygi> how much would you hate me if I used cdrskin for k3b instead of wodim?
[07:25] <pygi> it might solve *some* of the problems that k3b has with burning
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119890 in file (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119890
[07:26] <Hobbsee> pygi: um, i'm the wrong person to ask.  if it's sane, and fixes bugs and solves problems, and brings me chocolate, then it's a good thing.
[07:26] <pygi> Hobbsee, meh, who am I supposed to ask when there's no real maintainer of k3b?
[07:27] <Hobbsee> pygi: sealne
[07:27] <pygi> well, I can't ask him since he isn't here =)
[07:27] <Hobbsee> and/or tonio
[07:27] <Hobbsee> as they make the most uploads to it
[07:27] <pygi> they are never around
[07:28] <pygi> imho it should solve 90% of the problems related to wodim/cdrecord where it's their fault
[07:28] <Hobbsee> they're at a linux conference -w hat do you expect?
[07:28] <pygi> (and not directly of k3b)
[07:28] <pygi> nothing, nothing :)
[07:28] <Hobbsee> and tonio_ just got reset - he has been here.  his connection's stuffed, atm
[07:29] <pygi> so much bugs
[07:29] <pygi> bdmurray, ^_^
[07:31] <pygi> Hobbsee, poke me pls when tonio_ is around?
[07:31] <bdmurray> pygi: Are you looking to set the importance for brasero bugs?
[07:31] <Hobbsee> pygi: he'll join #kubuntu-devel
[07:31] <Hobbsee> but if i see, and remember, then sure
[07:32] <pygi> bdmurray, one of the reasons, yes
[07:32] <pygi> Hobbsee, thanks
[07:41] <ubotu> New bug: #119891 in totem (main) "choppy video playback" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119891
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119893 in linux-meta (main) "Kubuntu Feisty, 2.6.20-* Boot Freeze" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119893
[07:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119892 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice base, automatic formulary function is crash at finish" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119892
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119895 in Ubuntu "[needs packaging]  affinity" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119895
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119897 in totem (main) "Mp3 playback interupted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119897
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119899 in thunderbird (main) "message filtering broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119899
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119900 in busybox (main) "mkswap in installer does not support space greater than 2GB" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119900
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119901 in Ubuntu "blank screen for terminal shell when coming back from sleep" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119901
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119903 in libgksu (main) "Merge with Debian to v2.0.5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119903
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119906 in update-manager (main) "Showing common users a diff is BAD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119906
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119907 in xine-lib (main) "libxine should support ttf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119907
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119908 in dovecot (main) "Dovecot crashes on index files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119908
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119909 in file (main) "Please sync file (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119909
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119904 in Ubuntu "No Bluetooth device found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119904
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119910 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "Gnome should remember panel order and state" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119910
[09:01] <Arby> evening bughunters :)
[09:01] <Arby> I need a bit of help interpreting backtraces
[09:02] <Admiral_Chicago> got a link Arby
[09:02] <Arby> one moment
[09:02] <Arby> bug 108286
[09:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 108286 in adept "Adept crash after updating" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108286
[09:02] <Arby> and bug 115290
[09:03] <Admiral_Chicago> looking...
[09:03] <Arby> bug 115290
[09:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115290 in adept "adept_manager crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115290
[09:04] <Arby> are ^^those two duplicates?
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> afaik, we can't do anything with the first bug because there is no debugging symbol
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> 3~no
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> err no
[09:05] <Arby> OK
[09:05] <Arby> I don't really understand those, large chunks are the same but not identical
[09:05] <Admiral_Chicago> we would need them to install ... adept-manager-dbgsym and try to crash it again
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> when / if it does, attach the full crash report (found in /var/cache)
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> get that retraced and looked where they crashed
[09:06] <Arby> hmm, I'm not optimistic on getting a response but I'll try
[09:06] <Arby> adept has quite a few of those
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> you can always ask
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> yep, unfortunetly they crash isn't being caught by something like apport or the KDE crash management system (i forget what is called)
[09:08] <Arby> I'm told they should get passed upstream but in the current state it hardly seems worth it
[09:08] <Arby> they seem more or less useless at present
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> told by whom?
[09:08] <Arby> Riddell
[09:09] <Arby> but they clearly need more work before that's worth doing
[09:09] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm okay sec...
[09:09] <Arby> I'm just working through the bug list for adept trying to clean up as much as possible
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119911 in totem (main) "Does not play mov in browser" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119911
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119912 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "wireless doesn't initialize in Gutsy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119912
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #119913 in bash (main) "bash hangs infinitely; related to replace_history_data" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119913
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> afaik, with no debugging symbol found, there is no way to know where / why it crashed and would be useless upstream
[09:12] <Arby> Admiral_Chicago: that's my thinking as well
[09:12] <Arby> hence why I'm asking lots of questions about what to do with them :)
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> unless Riddell knows something I don't...if I were you I would politely disagree with him.
[09:13] <Arby> to be fair I didn't get time to discuss specifics with him
[09:13] <Arby> I was looking for him just now but he's not around
[09:14] <Arby> I guess the best I can do is ask the reporters to install debug symbols and report if it happens again
[09:14] <Admiral_Chicago> i have him tracked down...but to be honest we don't send them upstream without a full crash report.
[09:14] <Admiral_Chicago> give me a second.
[09:15] <Arby> I'd /like/ to just close them but I don't think I should do that yet :)
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> ask them for debugging symbols and a full crash report.
[09:16] <Arby> right, will do
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> correction: we don't send upstream without a full crash report that has been retraced
[09:17] <nixternal> a lot of boogs need to be looked at by upstream, but the current apport crash logs that I see a lot of, get laughed at...there needs to be much more information otherwise upstream will close them if you don't provide it..and look at it as a 1 time hiccup
[09:17] <nixternal> whether it is right or wrong isn't up to me unfortunately
[09:17] <Arby> OK well at least I've got a course of action now
[09:17] <Arby> I'm not too optimistic of success but I can try
[09:18] <nixternal> the worst thing you can do is close a bug which can be reopened :)
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> Arby: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Diaries/dholbach look at crasher bugs section
[09:18] <Arby> looking
[09:19] <Arby> on the subject of adept can anyone confirm bug 119089
[09:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119089 in adept "Unable to fetch the Developer Changelog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119089
[09:19] <nixternal> Arby: I can't fetch it, so let me confirm it for you
[09:20] <Arby> OK it's not working here either so that makes it confirmed
[09:20] <Arby> thanks nixternal
[09:21] <nixternal> there you go
[09:23] <Arby> nixternal: any idea what package provides debugging symbols for adept?
[09:24] <Arby> adept-dbg or similar doesn't seem to exist
[09:24] <nixternal> gdb
[09:24] <pygi> bdmurray, poke :)
[09:25] <Arby> nixternal: thanks yet again :)
[09:25] <Arby> the adept bug stomping continues
[09:25] <nixternal> hehe
[09:25] <nixternal> adept is a pita
[09:25] <nixternal> at this current time that is
[09:26] <Arby> yes, yes it is
[09:26] <Arby> I spent most of yesterday afternoon on it
[09:27] <Arby> doesn't feel like I made a dent yet
[09:27] <Admiral_Chicago> hehe, thats how it is with bugs
[09:27] <Arby> awaiting approval to ubuntu-qa so I can wishlist a bunch of stuff
[09:27] <Admiral_Chicago> but once you get bit my the bug work, it gets to be addictive
[09:27] <Arby> tell me about it
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Arby: hugday is wednesday, you could ask then
[09:28] <Arby> I'm busy wednseday unfortunately
[09:28] <Arby> so I'm getting my efforts in early
[09:29] <Arby> got inspired by nixternal s squashing marathon and set about a package :)
[09:30] <Arby> hey pochu
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119914 in Ubuntu "CPU Frequency scaling not working for Toshiba Satellite M40x" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119914
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119915 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "linux-image-2.6.22 causes udevd to eat-up CPU" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119915
[09:30] <Arby> pochu: I also have an iso test going just over there --> :)
[09:31] <pochu> hehe, cool :)
[09:33] <morty> nixternal: last week you unassigned me from a bug that needs more info - on bug day one of the task is to reassign bugs without owners. Can you explain why you did that? Should I have done something different?
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119916 in gstreamer (universe) "gst-plugins-bad: real support not compiled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119916
[09:45] <nixternal> morty: were you planning on fixing that bug like right nwo?
[09:45] <nixternal> what bug was it btw?
[09:45] <nixternal> I unassigned a ton of people this past week
[09:46] <morty> bug 116798
[09:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 116798 in kdepim "Kmail does not correctly decrypt base64 message" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116798
[09:46] <nixternal> were you going to fix that?
[09:47] <morty> No. I just thought that assigning yourself while asking for info was standard practice
[09:47] <nixternal> ahh, not that I know of. Assignment means you are the person working on the fix
[09:47] <nixternal> that is the "hey leave this one alone, i am fixing it" type deal :)
[09:47] <morty> Is that what In Progress is for?
[09:47] <nixternal> that is part of it as well, yes
[09:48] <nixternal> if you assign yourself to a bug, then developers who might be able to fix it or can fix it or get it fixed will pass it by because they think someone is already working on it
[09:49] <Arby> nixternal: 'needs info' seems to be a special case according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage
[09:49] <Arby> triagers are told to assign bugs to themselves while they gather enough info to confirm
[09:50] <Arby> if that's wrong I'd like to know since I have several bugs assigned to me for that reason
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119919 in kde-systemsettings (main) "Information-Window that "Windows-Applications" isn't installed, isn't translated to german" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119919
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119921 in Ubuntu "Hardware sensors not working on Toshiba Satellite M40x (need omnibook module)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119921
[09:51] <nixternal> interesting
[09:51] <nixternal> I wonder why that is...I never assign myself to bugs
[09:51] <jjesse> yes?
[09:51] <nixternal> yes what ;p
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> hehe
[09:52] <jjesse> you found it interesting :)
[09:53] <nixternal> jjesse: do you ever remember assigning a bug to yourself if you are just asking for more info?
[09:53] <jjesse> nixternal: i do that all that time, i assign myself the bug especially if i ask for more info
[09:53] <nixternal> orly
[09:54] <jjesse> then i follow up if that bug doesn't get response
[09:54] <jjesse> if i get response, i try to assign it ot the right contact
[09:54] <nixternal> I always skip those bugs because I feel people are working on them
[09:54] <nixternal> hey, you learn something new everyday..that must have changed though
[09:54] <nixternal> sflaw is the one I learned from last year
[09:55] <Arby> who would know the definitive answer?
[09:55] <Arby> or do we just assume the wiki is right and nixternal is wrong ;)
[09:55] <Arby> (first time for everything)
[09:55] <jjesse> what does the wiki say?
[09:55] <nixternal> Arby: well, I would do what that wiki says...right now it seems there are 4 or more of you against my lonely one ;p
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #119922 in postgresql-8.2 (main) "missing documentation of dblink in postgresql-contrib-8.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119922
[09:56] <nixternal> jjesse: wiki says what you aall are saying
[09:56] <stgraber> nixternal: yes, I've read about that "assign to yourself when triaging", but didn't see much people actually doing that, I personally only assign to myself when fixing a bug (mean In progress + assigned to me)
[09:56] <jjesse> i thought thats what i was taught to do
[09:56] <stgraber> nixternal: (and I hate to have hundreds of bug assigned to me :) )
[09:56] <jjesse> i thought it would give the person who created the bug a single point of contact
[09:56] <nixternal> stgraber: ya, same here
[09:56] <Arby> sounds like we might need a bit of clarification on policy here
[09:57] <nixternal> I subscribe to every bug I comment on, so I get an email when there is a change...to many, but I get them :)
[09:57] <jjesse> i get a ton of bug mail as well
[09:57] <Arby> I think we all do
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> lol
[09:58] <Arby> I have gmail account just for bug mail :)
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> i have 300 + bug mails now...
[09:58] <stgraber> nixternal: same for me, then when I want to look at my triaging list I just check the bugs I'm subscribed to and if I want to fix some bug, I look at my assigned list
[09:59] <nixternal> yup, I flag messages with nixternal@ubuntu.com && [BUG so I know which ones are mine
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> i just go to bugs in my LP page, that makes it much easier to keep track.
[09:59] <Arby> me too
[09:59] <nixternal> heh, all bugs are my bugs...I just click on the kubuntu-team lists and go at it
[10:02] <bdmurray> Arby: what was the question needing a definitive answer?
[10:03] <Arby> bdmurray: should triagers assign 'needs info' bugs to themselves?
[10:03] <bdmurray> By the way if anybody wants a _lot_ of bug mail subscribe to the ubuntu-bugs mailing list
[10:03] <Arby> if they intend to gather that info
[10:03] <Arby> bdmurray: don't need that much thanks :)
[10:04] <bdmurray> Arby: Yes, that is what is in the wiki and that is what I would prefer with the hopes that people would close them in 4 weeks if there is no response.
[10:04] <Arby> bdmurray: right, thanks. we had some confusion here
[10:04] <Arby> as suspected in cases of doubt the wiki is right :)
[10:04] <pygi> bdmurray, poke, get awaken :)
[10:05] <Arby> nixternal: there we go then, the definitive answer :)
[10:05] <bdmurray> pygi: I'd like to see you do some triaging for a bit longer
[10:06] <pygi> bdmurray, meh, I'm doing triaging for years o.O
[10:06] <pygi> but whatever you say, doesn't matter
[10:15] <Arby> bdmurray: are you the admin for ubuntu-qa?
[10:21] <bdmurray> Arby: Yes, I am.
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119924 in Ubuntu "Kernel 2.6.20-16.29 fails to login where 2.6.20-16.28 was fine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119924
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119925 in vtk (universe) "Please merge vtk 5.0.2.dfsg from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119925
[10:22] <Arby> bdmurray: you're reponse to pygi suggests I don't have much chance of being approved.
[10:22] <Arby> what else do I need to do?
[10:22] <bdmurray> I've set up an application of sorts on the UbuntuQA wiki page
[10:23] <Arby> ah, I'd already applied though launchpad but I better have a look at that page
[10:26] <bdmurray> Arby: recently?
[10:27] <Arby> yes, yesterday actually but I didn't really expect you to have checked that yet
[10:28] <nixternal> bdmurray: what happened with Simon? I have not seen nor heard from him in a long time...I feel out of the loop :)
[10:29] <Arby> bdmurray: I can do points 1 and 2 of the application, for point 3 I'm currently familiarising myself with adept
[10:29] <nixternal> heh, I got QA because they figured if I didn't mess up bugs.kde.org I wasn't going to mess up Malone ;p
[10:29] <bdmurray> Arby: I just replied to your request with an e-mail.
[10:30] <Arby> bdmurray: ok thanks, looking
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119927 in wxmaxima (universe) "wxmaxima cursor changes and freezes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119927
[10:31] <pygi> nixternal, and I got QA because I closed a lot of bugs in a blink of an eye with a patch or a solution =)
[10:32] <Arby> bdmurray: OK points noted.
[10:32] <pygi> nixternal, he's no more
[10:32] <nixternal> ahh
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119928 in openoffice.org (main) "oo-presenting-kubuntu.odp crashes when closing the presentation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119928
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119931 in Ubuntu "Kinfo crash in OpenGL node (tree devices)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119931
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119932 in Ubuntu "firefox problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119932
[11:17] <Arby> bdmurray: replied to e-mail, got my fingers crossed :)
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #119933 in accerciser (universe) "Please sync accerciser 0.1.3-1 from Debian unstable (Main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119933
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119934 in xubuntu-meta (main) "conflicting packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119934
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119935 in software-properties (main) "Duplicate hotkey " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119935