=== cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== infinity2 [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== macd [n=d@cl-116.atl-01.us.sixxs.net]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== n2diy [n=darryl@66.212.43.143]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== AvengerMoJo [n=alex@61.14.130.201]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== AvengerMoJ1 [n=alex@61.14.130.209]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== movleasto [n=movleast@213-140-16-177.fastres.net]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp91-76-75-207.pppoe.mtu-net.ru]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== johanbr [n=j@blk-224-156-151.eastlink.ca]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== johanbr [n=j@blk-224-156-151.eastlink.ca]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp91-76-75-207.pppoe.mtu-net.ru]  has left #ubuntu-kernel [] 
=== sdrik [n=sdrik@ip-93-4.dsl.newel.net]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== sdrik` [n=sdrik@ip-93-4.dsl.newel.net]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== macd_ [n=d@cl-116.atl-01.us.sixxs.net]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== cassidy [n=cassidy@host-85-27-113-187.brutele.be]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== m0rg0th_ [n=m0rg0th@220.225.228.97]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== Lure [n=lure@BSN-77-152-53.dsl.siol.net]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
[09:21] <kraut> moin
=== Lure_ [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@220.225.228.97]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== blenderhead001 [n=blenderh@adsl-068-209-133-121.sip.jax.bellsouth.net]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== ajmitch [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== allee [n=ach@lapex-mcallee.mpe.mpg.de]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
[11:28] <Keybuk> what do you guys know about the RedHat audit system?
=== unhappy [n=justinas@88.118.177.138]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:40:213:2ff:fe05:abdb]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
[01:15] <zul> morning
[01:19] <Nafallo> morning zul :-)
[01:19] <zul> BenC: when is the next kernel upload?
[01:30] <heno> BenC: ping
[01:50] <BenC> zul: maybe this week
[01:50] <BenC> heno: be back in about 20 minutes
[01:50] <heno> BenC: ok, cheers
[01:56] <jmg> wheres the best place to look for someone that knows acpi? i managed to reenable my wireless by booting into windows but i really want to fix this bug.
[01:56] <jmg> The windows is in chinese, too, so I cant read it.
[02:05] <jmg> Is there any app at all to snipe keycodes from windows?
[02:06] <zul> uh...this is totally offtopic
[02:06] <jmg> im trying to fix the wireless switch under linux.
[02:08] <jmg> i t doesnt have a hardswitch
[02:08] <jmg> https://answers.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/1087 <- similar to this
[02:09] <jmg> fixed for acer, not for asus
[02:29] <BenC> jmg: test gutsy, it has rfkill support in it
[02:30] <zul> BenC: fyi xen-3.1 and 2.6.22-rc4 should be ready this week
[02:30] <BenC> heno: replying to your email
[02:30] <BenC> zul: sweet
[02:31] <zul> BenC: its a umm....suse fork ;)
[02:41] <jmg> BenC: gutsy killed it.
[02:41] <BenC> jmg: need more info than that
[02:41] <jmg> BenC: upgrading to gutsy was what stopped the wireless
[02:42] <BenC> what kind of wireless?
[02:42] <jmg> ipw
[02:42] <BenC> there are 3 kinds of ipw
[02:42] <BenC> need more info rather than less
[02:42] <jmg> hang on
[02:42] <jmg> booting laptop now
[02:42] <jmg> it's offline
[02:43] <jmg> ipw2200
[02:43] <jmg> how do i use rfkill?
[02:43] <BenC> Make sure you have linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-6-generic installed
[02:44] <jmg> ii
[02:44] <BenC> then check dmesg
[02:44] <jmg> 2.6.22-6-generic 2.6.22-6.11
[02:44] <jmg> i did.
[02:44] <BenC> did it say anything about it?
[02:44] <jmg> it told me "Kill switch enabled" until i booted windows
[02:44] <jmg> nothing about rfkill
[02:44] <BenC> does wireless not even get detected, is it detected and just not working, does it scan, does it associate?
[02:45] <BenC> sudo modprobe rfkill
[02:45] <BenC> see if that helps
[02:45] <jmg> detected bok
[02:45] <jmg> modprobe rfkill has no effect
[02:46] <jmg> i have asus_acpi installed
[02:46] <BenC> sudo modprobe rfkill-input
[02:46] <jmg> no effect
[02:46] <BenC> are you trying to hit the kill switch and see if it enables it?
[02:46] <jmg> yeah
[02:47] <BenC> what sort of switch is it, slider, click button?
=== calc [n=ccheney@conr-adsl-209-169-124-200.consolidated.net]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
[02:47] <jmg> fn-f2
[02:47] <BenC> is the wireless light coming on at all?
[02:47] <jmg> it's on, because i went into windows and turned it on
[02:47] <jmg> i'd like to know how ubuntu managed to turn it off in the first place
[02:48] <jmg> oh
[02:48] <BenC> Ok, file a bug and provide all this info in it please
[02:48] <jmg> it turned off
[02:48] <jmg> but i cant turn it back on
[02:48] <jmg> will try acpi_listen and file a bug
[02:48] <BenC> ubuntu doesn't turn it off, it's enabled via software
[02:48] <jmg> rfkill
[02:49] <BenC> or acpi workarounds like asus_acpi, tosh_acpi, thinkpad_acpi, etc...
[02:49] <BenC> Mark the bug as a regression too, please
[02:50] <BenC> lspci -vv, dmesg, and details from this discussion in the bug report, please
=== mdomsch [n=mdomsch@cpe-70-113-73-138.austin.res.rr.com]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
[02:52] <zul> brb need to rebooty
[02:53] <jmg> rgr
[02:53] <jmg> what package should I file it against?
[02:55] <jmg> BenC: ^
[02:55] <BenC> linux-source-2.6.22
[02:57] <jmg> augh, gutsy firefox keeps crashing on launchpad bugs
[03:02] <jmg> oh wait 
=== zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
[03:06] <zul> *cough* Linux lisa 2.6.22-rc4-xen #1 SMP Mon Jun 11 08:27:51 EDT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux *cough*
[03:08] <jmg> :)
[03:08] <jmg> thx chuck
[03:08] <calc> BenC: sorry to interrupt, but is there a known issue with intel 3945 on gutsy?
[03:08] <BenC> calc: working for me
[03:08] <calc> BenC: if not i need to file a bug about it not working (unless it recently was fixed)
[03:09] <calc> BenC: ok, i'll look into it later today
[03:09] <calc> for me it loaded the driver, etc but would never connect to an AP
[03:09] <BenC> calc: it's worked for me throughout gutsy...could you make sure you have linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-6-generic installed and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-6-generic?
[03:09] <calc> i went back to feisty and it worked fine
[03:09] <calc> ok
=== ivoks [n=ivoks@16-140.dsl.iskon.hr]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
[03:36] <BenC> jmg: PLEASE, do not paste things like dmesg and lspci in comments. We have a feature called attachments for a reason :)
[03:36] <BenC> jmg: can you edit the description for the bug, removing the lspci and dmesg from it, and attaching them separately?
=== m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@220.225.228.97]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== johanbr [n=j@JBrannlund.MathStat.Dal.Ca]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== m0rg0th_ [n=m0rg0th@220.225.228.97]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== ivoks [n=ivoks@16-140.dsl.iskon.hr]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== mdomsch [n=Matt_Dom@cpe-70-113-73-138.austin.res.rr.com]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@220.225.228.97]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== mikmorg [n=mikmorg@pool-71-98-110-171.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
[05:38] <mikmorg> hi
[05:48] <mikmorg> could anyone tell me what the last number in the Ubuntu kernel version means? ie. 2.6.20-15.27-generic (what is '27' vs '26'?)
[05:48] <Nafallo> ABI
[05:48] <mikmorg> ok
[05:48] <mikmorg> thanks
[05:49] <Nafallo> ehrm. no
[05:49] <Nafallo> 15 is ABI
[05:49] <Nafallo> 27 is version
[05:49] <Nafallo> or "upload"
[05:49] <mikmorg> aha
[05:50] <mikmorg> if i were to compile a module against 2.6.20-15.26-generic, and use it on 2.6.20-15.27-generic, would it always work?
[05:51] <mikmorg> ie. does the version affect kernel modules?
[05:51] <zul> it shouldnt
[05:52] <mikmorg> what exactly does it affect, then?
[05:52] <zul> it affects the abi since if the abi changes then stuff like lrm gets out of sync
[05:53] <Nafallo> zul: ABI is 15 in both cases?
[05:53] <mjg59> mikmorg: The .27 affects nothing. It's just the 27th version of 2.6.20 uploaded.
[05:55] <mikmorg> mjg59: thanks - The reason I ask is for the sake of DKMS. I need to know if I can use the headers for 2.6.20-15.X to build for 2.6.20-15.Y (where Y > X)
[05:55] <mikmorg> So it sounds like that is the case.
[05:55] <mjg59> Should be, yes
[05:56] <mikmorg> mdomsch: are you reading this?
[05:56] <mdomsch> good day
[05:57] <mdomsch> zul, but on 'apt-get upgrade'
[05:57] <mdomsch> when it goes from kernel 2.6.20-15.X to 2.6.20-15.X+delta
[05:57] <mdomsch> doesn't /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic get overwritten?
[05:58] <mdomsch> or is there a directory, maybe 'volatile', under there, that doesn't?
[06:00] <mdomsch> no, can't use volatile, it's a tmpfs
[06:01] <mikmorg> how about 'ubuntu'?
=== pmjdebruijn [n=pmjdebru@ds9.pcode.nl]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== n2diy [n=darryl@66.212.43.14]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== amitk [n=amit@a81-197-135-210.elisa-laajakaista.fi]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== wuzzy79 [i=wuzzy79@bas1-calgaryqa-1242360854.region2.highspeedunplugged.bell.ca]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
[07:29] <wuzzy79> hello all, im a linux newbie and need help
[07:30] <wuzzy79> i have configured ubunto to boot live from a memory key, but now need to slim it down alot... i only need run level 3 with command prompt for a few hardware comparison commands
[07:30] <wuzzy79> is anyone able to help me with this...
=== m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@219.64.120.181]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
[07:37] <wuzzy79> can anyone tell me how to set the default boot to run level 3 only?
=== mkrufky [n=mk@unaffiliated/mkrufky]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
[07:57] <mkrufky> hey guys
[07:58] <mkrufky> i filed bug #90723 on launchpad.net over three months ago ....   AND i provided the solution.  can we get some action on this?
[07:59] <mkrufky> it's just missing "dvb-usb-bluebird-01.fw" firmware, and it is freely distributable by anyone
[07:59] <mkrufky> this is a bug which has been present ever since 2.6.15
[08:00] <lamont> BenC: did the module.lds fix get in yet?
[08:00] <BenC> it's not in the repo yet, no
[08:01] <lamont> pretty please?
[08:01] <lamont> I don't want to roll my own archive just to test-build debian-installer... :-(
[08:01] <lamont> or rather, eta to upload with the fix???
[08:03] <BenC> should be this week easily
[08:03] <BenC> as early as tomorrow
[08:04] <lamont> woot
[08:05] <lamont> if you could be so kind as to poke here me once it's uploaded, that'd be wonderful.
[08:05] <lamont> oh, and the modules patch too....
=== lamont heads for the office
[08:08] <BenC> lamont: sure thing
=== m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@219.64.120.181]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== Lure_ [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== doko [n=doko@dslb-088-074-006-126.pools.arcor-ip.net]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== blenderhead001 [n=blenderh@adsl-068-209-133-121.sip.jax.bellsouth.net]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== mdomsch_ [n=Matt_Dom@cpe-70-113-73-138.austin.res.rr.com]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
[09:55] <calc> lamont: hi
=== ivoks [n=ivoks@0-209.dsl.iskon.hr]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
[10:30] <lamont> calc: hi
=== allee [n=ach@lapex-mcallee.mpe.mpg.de]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
=== lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel
[11:14] <jmg> BenC: rgr!
[11:16] <jmg> BenC: done :)
=== gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak]  has joined #ubuntu-kernel