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| Hobbsee | morning all | 07:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Tm_T | good morning | 07:00 |
| DaSkreech | !hobbsee | 07:01 |
| ubotu | I phear the stick so shhhhh | 07:01 |
| Tm_T | theshkrieek: sshhhh | 07:01 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 07:01 |
| pygi | you mean someone is actually afraid of hobsee? :P | 07:04 |
| Tm_T | pygi: theshkrieek is, as he should | 07:04 |
| pygi | I disagree | 07:05 |
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| Tm_T | and you should be afraid of me | 07:06 |
| pygi | meh, dude, you can't even touch me | 07:08 |
| Jucato | Tm_T:!!! where were you when I needed you :( | 07:12 |
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| Jucato | Tm_T: um. later... gonna take a rest from this splitting headache :( | 07:14 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: and I'm going to work, see you later -> | 07:17 |
| DaSkreech | Anyone use xnest a bit? | 07:40 |
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| DaSkreech | who gimped adept? | 08:14 |
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| Tm_T | DaSkreech: hm? | 08:27 |
| DaSkreech | you can't switch modes on the fly anymore | 08:28 |
| Tm_T | modes? | 08:38 |
| DaSkreech | !-botsnack | 08:38 |
| ubotu | botsnack has no aliases - added by Amaranth on 2006-08-05 08:42:05 | 08:38 |
| === DaSkreech cracks up | ||
| DaSkreech | !botsnack | 08:38 |
| ubotu | Yum! Err, I mean, APT! | 08:38 |
| DaSkreech | Tm_T: Yeah I could install a bunch of stuff then go back to the package list and look over more stuff | 08:39 |
| DaSkreech | can't do that anymore :( | 08:39 |
| Tm_T | interesting | 08:39 |
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| Jucato | DaSkreech: um.. View menu -> Package List? | 09:11 |
| DaSkreech | Doesn't work here | 09:11 |
| DaSkreech | Let me install something and see | 09:11 |
| DaSkreech | very much doesn't work here | 09:13 |
| Jucato | hm... | 09:14 |
| DaSkreech | the only thing still active during a download is hide toolbar | 09:14 |
| === Hobbsee attacks DaSkreech with a herring | ||
| Jucato | let me double check. I was using adept_manager last night and it was ok | 09:14 |
| DaSkreech | Hobbsee: red? | 09:14 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: no, purple. | 09:15 |
| Jucato | DaSkreech: you do mean Adept Manager right? | 09:15 |
| DaSkreech | hmm less tanning lotion | 09:15 |
| DaSkreech | Si | 09:15 |
| DaSkreech | Jucato: that's yes for you :) | 09:17 |
| DaSkreech | Can Konqui import FF's history? | 09:17 |
| Jucato | nope. I don't think so | 09:17 |
| Jucato | anyway, what do you mean by "hide toolbar" is the only thing active during a download? | 09:18 |
| Jucato | if you could reproduce steps. would be nice for trying to check this bug :) | 09:18 |
| DaSkreech | select random app that takes more then 4 seconds to download -> select request install -> click on Apply changes -> open view menu -> obsserve that you can't do much but watch the download happen -> go watch heroes -> wait two days and randomly bring it up in a dev channel -> wait for request to confirm bug -> paste this handy dandy line | 09:20 |
| Jucato | ok let me try | 09:20 |
| Jucato | well, I sure can switch to Show Package List, Show Last Dpkg Run, Show Last Download | 09:22 |
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| Tm_T | Jucato: pong | 09:22 |
| Jucato | Tm_T: yay! done w/ work? :D | 09:23 |
| Tm_T | in work | 09:23 |
| Jucato | oh... | 09:23 |
| DaSkreech | Jucato: version | 09:23 |
| Tm_T | but have some sparetime if you need me | 09:23 |
| Jucato | DaSkreech: Adept Manager 2.1 | 09:23 |
| DaSkreech | Cruiser? | 09:23 |
| Jucato | Tm_T: well anyway, I got bluetooth DUN GPRS working perfectly except for one thing. I can't connect to IRC | 09:23 |
| Jucato | DaSkreech: yes | 09:23 |
| DaSkreech | Grrr | 09:24 |
| DaSkreech | well... that was interesting | 09:24 |
| DaSkreech | so thats how you open a image in cli | 09:24 |
| Jucato | Tm_T: have you ever experienced that? IM, Browsing, Apt-get all work well (except for the speed, but who's complaining) | 09:24 |
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| Tm_T | Jucato: can you tell more exactly what doesn't work? | 09:26 |
| Tm_T | like, can you ping irc server? and what servers and ports you tried? | 09:27 |
| Jucato | Tm_T: only IRC. I just can't connect to IRC... where could I go for specific logs? | 09:27 |
| Tm_T | no idea =) | 09:27 |
| Jucato | yeah pinging the server works, tried 6667 and 8001 ports | 09:27 |
| Jucato | freenode only (it's the only one I need/know) | 09:27 |
| Tm_T | and which freenode server? | 09:29 |
| Jucato | well, irc.ubuntu.com or irc.freenode.net. either of those | 09:29 |
| === Jucato has tried Googling with little luck... :( | ||
| DaSkreech | Jucato: DUN? | 09:29 |
| Jucato | Dial Up Networking | 09:29 |
| === Jucato thought that was a widely known acronym... apparently not :P | ||
| DaSkreech | Jucato: no I'm asking if that's what you are asking for help with | 09:31 |
| Jucato | aah | 09:31 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: DaSkreech it's ZVCDU. | 09:31 |
| Jucato | well, the only problem I had was that I couldn't connect to IRC, no matter what client I tried | 09:31 |
| Hobbsee | not DUN | 09:31 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: what's that? O.o | 09:31 |
| === DaSkreech puts Hobbsee on /ignore | ||
| Hobbsee | Ze Very Crappy Dial Up. | 09:32 |
| Jucato | lol :) | 09:32 |
| DaSkreech | Ole! | 09:32 |
| === Hobbsee boots DaSkreech into the middle of next week. YOU CANNOT IGNORE TEH HOBBSEE!!! | ||
| DaSkreech | Well I'm on Ze Dial up and Ze Vista | 09:32 |
| Hobbsee | oh no. nixternal did it? | 09:32 |
| DaSkreech | no my mom | 09:33 |
| DaSkreech | Should fix that tomorrow | 09:33 |
| Hobbsee | and is Ze Sweedish Chef cooking you dinner? | 09:33 |
| === DaSkreech is listening to Hippopotamus by Desmond Dekker on The Original Reggae Hitsound of Desmond Dekker and the Aces [Amarok] | ||
| DaSkreech | Bork Bork! | 09:34 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:34 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 09:34 |
| DaSkreech | Night all | 09:41 |
| DaSkreech | Gnight | 09:41 |
| Hobbsee | night DaSkreech | 09:42 |
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| Tm_T | Jucato: well, irc.freenode.net is not actually one server, so, howq about directly pointing some specific server | 09:57 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: and does irc client give any error then | 09:58 |
| Jucato | Tm_T: hm.. ok... I'll try. I never really noticed which server it was trying to connect to. but iirc, it changes server everytime you try to connect, and I've tried it dozens of time | 09:58 |
| Jucato | no error, just connection lost and tries again | 09:58 |
| Jucato | this is after the initial "Connected: logging in" | 09:59 |
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| Tm_T | and? | 10:02 |
| Tm_T | and what clients you tried? | 10:03 |
| Jucato | irssi and konversation | 10:03 |
| Tm_T | ok | 10:04 |
| Nightrose | morning | 10:07 |
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| Jucato | Tm_T: Trying to connect to kubrick.freenode.net. I can definitely ping that one. it stops at "No identd (auth) response" | 10:15 |
| === Jucato will bbl | ||
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| toma | ola | 10:16 |
| toma | i'm having troubles with vmware, anyone around? | 10:16 |
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| raphink | hi guys :) | 10:50 |
| Hobbsee | hiya raphink :) | 10:54 |
| raphink | hi Hobbsee | 10:54 |
| Tm_T | howdy ho | 10:55 |
| raphink | hi Tm_T | 10:55 |
| Tm_T | raphy (: | 10:55 |
| raphink | oh I get a an upside-down smile | 10:57 |
| Tm_T | or lefthanded | 10:58 |
| raphink | hehe | 10:59 |
| raphink | I don't know, I don't usually use my hands to smile | 10:59 |
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| viviersf | Riddell, ping | 11:20 |
| Riddell | hi viviersf | 11:21 |
| Hobbsee | morning Riddell | 11:45 |
| gnomefreak | morning everyone | 11:51 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: you here? | 12:13 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: if i want to create a kubuntu-restricted-extras package, like the current ubuntu one, and have deps like libk3b2-mp3 in there - is it better to use shlibdeps stuff (ie, libk3b-dev as a build dep), or just hardcode the particular library in those files? it seems to be using a similar thing to seeds | 12:14 |
| Hobbsee | (or should i ask mvo?) | 12:14 |
| Riddell | hmm, never seen that ubuntu one | 12:16 |
| Riddell | yeah, go for it, look at the ubuntu source to see how that's done | 12:17 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i have. they dont use a specific library | 12:17 |
| Hobbsee | so theyhavent had to face the issue | 12:17 |
| Riddell | just hard code then | 12:17 |
| Hobbsee | okay | 12:18 |
| === Hobbsee ponders msttcorefonts | ||
| gnomefreak | will kubuntu implement restricted-drivers-manager for gutsy? | 12:19 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: that is an eivl package | 12:19 |
| gnomefreak | evil | 12:19 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: depends if anyone writes one. i cant ermember who was looking into it | 12:20 |
| gnomefreak | ty | 12:20 |
| Riddell | mhb has it on his summer of code todo | 12:20 |
| gnomefreak | ok cool ty | 12:21 |
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| xerosis | is there a back-end for r-d-m? | 12:27 |
| Hobbsee | no idea. id' think so - it's in ubuntu | 12:33 |
| Riddell | it's mostly separated between backend and frontend | 12:34 |
| Riddell | as I say mhb will do it after gdebi | 12:35 |
| === Hobbsee thought metapackages was a valid category... | ||
| Hobbsee | perhaps not in debian. oh well, i'ts used in ubuntu. | 12:38 |
| Hobbsee | who's Andreas Simon? | 12:43 |
| === xerosis notices the stark resemblence between the new mac os dock and project looking glass... | ||
| Jucato | whatever happened to LG3D anyway? | 12:45 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: a motu potential | 12:46 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i meant irc nick | 12:46 |
| Riddell | asimon | 12:46 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i'm looking at kde4-style-qtcurve which looks fine, but there's a newer version | 12:47 |
| Hobbsee | i'm wondering whether to ack and upload the old versino, as you've already ack'd it, or to get him to uploa dhte new version | 12:47 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 12:47 |
| Hobbsee | oops. | 12:48 |
| Hobbsee | the reason my changes to k-r-e arent on revu is because i'm not uploading them there. | 12:48 |
| Riddell | k-r-e? | 12:51 |
| Riddell | oh, extras | 12:51 |
| Riddell | get an archive admin to remove if from new if you accidently uploaded to ubuntu | 12:51 |
| Hobbsee | they'll rejected it | 12:52 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: can you look into http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5482 ? | 12:53 |
| Hobbsee | (it incidently is the latest version in the ubuntu NEW queue) | 12:53 |
| Hobbsee | er, s/rejected/reject/ | 12:54 |
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| hunger | Any idea what I can do to get my fontsizes fixed up again in Qt apps? They got much bigger last week. Forcing the font resolution does not help. | 01:30 |
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| hunger | Changing the DisplaySize in xorg.conf does change the font sizes in kdm, but not in my KDE session. Is there anything in the user setup that can influence the DPI? | 01:38 |
| mhb | hunger: you can "enforce" the DPI using systemsettings/appearance/fonts I think | 01:43 |
| hunger | mhb: That was ignored yesterday. Seems to work now though... thanks. | 01:49 |
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| === Hobbsee bounces | ||
| === Jucato dribbles Hobbsee | ||
| Jucato | oops.. thought you were a ball... | 02:45 |
| Tm_T | mooh | 02:45 |
| === Hobbsee stomps on Jucato's feet | ||
| === Tm_T is starting to build KDE4 | ||
| === Jucato turns Tm_T into a fawn | ||
| Jucato | do we have an #ubuntu-artists channel? | 02:45 |
| Tm_T | yup | 02:46 |
| Jucato | what would be the name? | 02:46 |
| Tm_T | isn't it #ubuntu-artists ? | 02:46 |
| Jucato | nope. empty | 02:46 |
| mhb | #ubuntu-art | 02:46 |
| mhb | ? | 02:46 |
| Tm_T | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat | 02:47 |
| Tm_T | artwork | 02:47 |
| Jucato | ah thanks. someone was asking :) | 02:47 |
| Tm_T | haven't been there for awhile so forgot | 02:47 |
| mhb | right, artwork; -art is a redirect. | 02:47 |
| Jucato | thanks | 02:47 |
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| seele | Riddell: sorry this took so long: http://obso1337.org/hci/kde/Kubuntu_Installation_Usability_testing_June_2007.pdf | 03:05 |
| Riddell | seele: great, looking | 03:09 |
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| Riddell | seele: plenty to read and act on there | 03:27 |
| Riddell | seele: we actually have a new ubiquity maintainer now, evand. I guess me and colin and him should discuss the recommendations and see if there's time to get those done | 03:28 |
| seele | ok | 03:28 |
| seele | some of them might not be exact because it was from testing herd 5 | 03:28 |
| seele | but i think its pretty obvious that partitioning needs to be looked at | 03:29 |
| Riddell | which of course there should be since he's working on it full time now | 03:29 |
| seele | i didnt think it was as big of a problem until i saw people struggling to bad | 03:29 |
| seele | ok | 03:29 |
| Jucato | seele: I have a question. Did anyone who participated in the tests know that they could select a different partition/drive to install GRUB to? | 03:29 |
| seele | Jucato: no | 03:29 |
| seele | Jucato: i tested people who were familiar with installing/configuring software on windows (someone who might be interested in trying out linux) | 03:30 |
| Jucato | ah | 03:30 |
| seele | i think trying to explain a bootloader would have made them esplode | 03:30 |
| Jucato | partitioning would have already made them explode :) | 03:30 |
| seele | hehe | 03:30 |
| Jucato | I'm bad.. I haven't given ubiquity much attention because I preferred alternate install cd's :( | 03:31 |
| Jucato | I wonder if it has a sort of Help button with a corresponding guide... | 03:32 |
| === Hobbsee waves to seele | ||
| seele | hi Hobbsee | 03:33 |
| Lure | seele: nice report with lots of good points | 03:33 |
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| xerosis | seele: while you're here do you might having a quick look a UI? | 03:57 |
| xerosis | seele: it's just rough but need to see if I'm on the right lines... | 03:57 |
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| seele | xerosis: i can look, but technically i'm at work :) | 04:01 |
| _marseillais_ | When is the freeze for new software inclusion ? | 04:02 |
| xerosis | seele: oh okay no worries, just give me ping next time you're at home :) | 04:02 |
| Riddell | _marseillais_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyReleaseSchedule | 04:06 |
| _marseillais_ | arf | 04:07 |
| _marseillais_ | i must hurry to include pikdev .... | 04:07 |
| _marseillais_ | but it seems it is unmaintained | 04:08 |
| _marseillais_ | :( | 04:08 |
| Riddell | what's that? | 04:08 |
| Riddell | august 16th is UVF | 04:09 |
| _marseillais_ | i thought it was Remaining upstream merges completed, Rebuild Test the 21 june for new apps .... | 04:09 |
| _marseillais_ | thanks Riddell | 04:09 |
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| dinosaur-rus | hi | 04:47 |
| === Tm_T hides | ||
| Hobbsee | hiya | 04:48 |
| dinosaur-rus | why did Tm_T hide? :) | 04:48 |
| Tm_T | don't pretend you are not in mafia, all russians are | 04:48 |
| Tm_T | I know, but you won't get ME! | 04:49 |
| === Tm_T stays hidden | ||
| dinosaur-rus | :P | 04:49 |
| dinosaur-rus | I'm harmless :) | 04:49 |
| Tm_T | so they all say | 04:49 |
| Tm_T | and then you lose your ears | 04:49 |
| dinosaur-rus | hahah | 04:49 |
| Tm_T | hum, from what region you are? | 04:50 |
| dinosaur-rus | Moscow | 04:50 |
| Tm_T | humm, that far, shame | 04:50 |
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| Tm_T | I'm from eastern Finland | 04:51 |
| dinosaur-rus | not so far :) | 04:51 |
| Tm_T | ok, so I can assassinate you before you kill more innocent hu-mans | 04:52 |
| dinosaur-rus | oh, then I should hide from you, not you from me :) | 04:52 |
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| Tm_T | better? | 04:53 |
| dinosaur-rus | hey :)) | 04:55 |
| Tm_T | hey hey *bang* | 04:56 |
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| dinosaur-rus | is Qt 4.3 going to be released for pre-Gutsy distributions? | 05:01 |
| Hobbsee | dinosaur-rus: unlikely, unless anyone puts in the effort to do it | 05:01 |
| Hobbsee | wonder what it requires to do... | 05:02 |
| Hobbsee | i dont think there are current plans to | 05:02 |
| dinosaur-rus | another question -- recently OpenOffice.org released bugfix-only 2.2.1 version of their software. will packages be updated? | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | for what, feisty? | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | unlikely, as it's so huge. mind you, one could use PPA and launchpad for that, i guess.... | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | depends on the demand and such | 05:06 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: ping? | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: what are your thoughts on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/119467? | 05:15 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 119467 in kubuntu-meta "make non-essential packages Recommends and not Depends" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 05:15 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: the general policy is that any package which can be removed and you can still sanely call the result a "kubuntu desktop" should be recommends | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: right. have you got any problems with any of those packages being moved to recommends? | 05:19 |
| Riddell | whether e.g. amarok should be in there is unclear | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | and the other question is the technical one - how to change it? | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | wlel, a base kde desktop, i would expect, would be part of kubuntu-desktkop | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | without the extra, cool, kde apps | 05:19 |
| Riddell | seems to me it wouldn't be kubuntu without amarok | 05:19 |
| Riddell | you put brackets around the name in the seeds | 05:19 |
| Riddell | strigi should be recommends certainly | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: true that. it's the case of people who compile it from svn or whatever | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: ie, how much of a base kubuntu do you need, and which components cant you remove | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | not "what's the best desktop experience?" | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | because of course, having everything in k-d installed is going to be the best | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh.... | 05:22 |
| Hobbsee | right | 05:22 |
| Tm_T | err, if you don't like to have "full Kubuntu desktop" how about not installing kubuntu-desktop ? | 05:25 |
| Tm_T | or what's the problem? | 05:25 |
| Riddell | that's kindae my thinking | 05:26 |
| Tm_T | well that's sort of logical thinking? | 05:26 |
| Tm_T | whole point of kubuntu-desktop is to provide, err, kubuntu desktop | 05:26 |
| Riddell | the ones marked recommends are so because it's understandable not to use them, knetworkmanager isn't right for everyone, neither is openoffice | 05:26 |
| Tm_T | not "minimal desktop with some recommends" | 05:26 |
| Tm_T | doing dishes while kdelibs compiles -> | 05:27 |
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| Tm_T | Hobbsee: err, that's not punishment | 05:39 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 05:39 |
| Tm_T | bash them to Russia | 05:39 |
| dinosaur-rus | Tm_T, don't be so unfriendly :) | 05:40 |
| Tm_T | I'm not (; | 05:41 |
| Tm_T | you remember the times when people were transmitted to Siberia for punishment? | 05:42 |
| dinosaur-rus | Tm_T, lots of time passed since then. don't shame on Russia for USSR's mistakes | 05:43 |
| Tm_T | we still say "Siperia opettaa" = "Siberia teatches" | 05:43 |
| Tm_T | dinosaur-rus: I don't =) | 05:43 |
| dinosaur-rus | and mistakes of pre-USSR time | 05:43 |
| Tm_T | dinosaur-rus: just my way of seeing world, always humour in it | 05:47 |
| dinosaur-rus | :) | 05:47 |
| Tm_T | world and life | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i'm suspecting we should support the choice of users that they may want to remove some apps. | 05:48 |
| Hobbsee | but it does cause headaches for upgrades, i guess | 05:48 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: by the number of bugs about it...it's something that's reqeuested, for wahtever reason | 05:48 |
| Hobbsee | and it's an alternative to installing kdebase and kdelibs, and then bitching about no khelpcentre or whatever | 05:49 |
| dinosaur-rus | ohhh, KDE4 is going to be released a bit too late to be finally included in Gutsy :P | 05:56 |
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| mhb | dinosaur-rus: actually, WAY too late | 06:00 |
| xerosis | wow, nice last comment in that bug... | 06:02 |
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| dinosaur-rus | mhb: KDE4'll be released after just 5 days after Gutsy :)) less than a week | 06:03 |
| dinosaur-rus | xerois: lol | 06:03 |
| dinosaur-rus | xerosis | 06:03 |
| dinosaur-rus | xerosis: and it's soo long :) | 06:04 |
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| mhb | dinosaur-rus: I know, but we would need to have it released before our feature freeze | 06:09 |
| mhb | dinosaur-rus: which is a lot earlier than final release | 06:10 |
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| dinosaur-rus | how the next-to-Gutsy version will be called? IIRC, "H" letter is already used :P | 06:18 |
| Hobbsee | dinosaur-rus: no one knows | 06:18 |
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| marseillai | could anyone give me a name of a pykde based package done with CDBS? if possible a simple one. it's to see how it's done. | 06:36 |
| Riddell | I doubt we have any | 06:36 |
| Riddell | check all the ones from apt-cache rdepends python-kde3 | 06:37 |
| marseillai | thanks | 06:37 |
| marseillai | i'll | 06:37 |
| marseillai | i'll try lphoto | 06:37 |
| marseillai | grrrr debhelper | 06:38 |
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| Riddell | I don't think there will be any | 06:42 |
| Riddell | just use debhelper, it's not so bad | 06:42 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: is there a legit reason for ~/.local/ to be owned by root? | 06:45 |
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| Riddell | Hobbsee: can't imagine so | 06:50 |
| Riddell | hi kwwii, how's the food at mountain view? | 06:50 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: that's the solution for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/kdebase/+bug/88426 - where best to implement it? ie, chowning it back to the regualr users | 06:50 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 88426 in kdebase "kmenuedit does not save changes." [Low,Confirmed] | 06:50 |
| kwwii | Riddell: pretty good but I am still sick | 06:51 |
| kwwii | Riddell: the DA meeting starts tomorrow | 06:51 |
| kwwii | been here working with intel and nokia people since yesterday | 06:51 |
| Riddell | kwwii: you shouldn't be working if you're sick! | 06:53 |
| kwwii | Riddell: well, I came all this way so just staying in the hotel seems stupid | 06:54 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: solution would be to find out what's chowning it to root and fixing that | 06:56 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: true that | 06:56 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: work around would be to chown it after adept runs each time or somethiing. or after kdesudo runs. | 06:57 |
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| Tonio_ | hey ;) | 06:58 |
| Tonio_ | anyone there (c++ coder required) | 06:58 |
| Tonio_ | I have to write a fix for ark, for I can't find the function/class I need | 06:58 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_!!! | 06:58 |
| Tonio_ | hey ;) | 06:58 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: ping ? | 07:03 |
| Tonio_ | or Riddell ? | 07:03 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: hi. what ark fix? | 07:04 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: simply : | 07:04 |
| Tonio_ | zip files don't have the filename encoding in it | 07:04 |
| mhb | Tonio_: here | 07:04 |
| Tonio_ | the zip binary by defaults encodes file names using latin-1 | 07:04 |
| Tonio_ | that's a zip format limitation | 07:04 |
| Tonio_ | the point is that when you want to display a zip file content with ark | 07:05 |
| Tonio_ | it considers everything is utf-8 | 07:05 |
| Tonio_ | the idea would be to convert the filename string from latin1 to the system charset, utf-8 for ubuntu | 07:07 |
| Tonio_ | and display this | 07:07 |
| Tonio_ | that'll fix a 4 year old bug | 07:07 |
| Tonio_ | the point is that I can't seem to find a class to convert a string charset.... all I know is iconv | 07:07 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: hey ;) I hope you can help on that point | 07:07 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: ah. i might, but i have to search some docs. i hate encodings. hang on. | 07:07 |
| Tonio_ | once I get that class I think I an patch myself | 07:07 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: same for me :( | 07:07 |
| Tonio_ | but it would be nice to fix this :) | 07:07 |
| Tonio_ | for kubuntu, kde and the french parliament :) | 07:07 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/qtextcodec.html | 07:08 |
| mhb | fdoving: hi, have you commited your cleanup to kdesudo yet? | 07:10 |
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| fdoving | Tonio_: and i think you would use something like: http://rafb.net/p/M46yMg96.html | 07:11 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: well the point is that I need to convert from iso-8859-1 to "the system charset" | 07:12 |
| fdoving | mhb: hi, i think so, i'll check. | 07:12 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: any idea how to get it ? via the env variables ? | 07:12 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: ah, the other way around. | 07:12 |
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| fdoving | Tonio_: then you can use local8Bit() | 07:13 |
| Tonio_ | which is ? | 07:13 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: A qstring member | 07:13 |
| mhb | fdoving: according to LP nothing was commited | 07:14 |
| fdoving | mhb: funny, i'll do it then. | 07:15 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/i18n.html | 07:15 |
| Tonio_ | thanks :) | 07:16 |
| Tonio_ | that'll help | 07:16 |
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| fdoving | Tonio_: the http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/qstring.html#local8Bit is a good hint i guess. | 07:19 |
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| fdoving | mhb: commited. | 07:28 |
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| fdoving | Tonio_: status? | 07:45 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: working on it :) | 07:45 |
| Tonio_ | ark code is really ugly :) | 07:45 |
| fdoving | i met this cutie at work today: http://frode.kde.no/work/Bilde(243).jpg | 07:57 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: awww...cute :P | 07:58 |
| fdoving | .. and belive it or not, i met another one, bigger kind too: http://frode.kde.no/work/Bilde(244).jpg | 07:58 |
| Hobbsee | very cute :) | 07:59 |
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| Riddell | fdoving: sweet | 08:13 |
| fdoving | very :) | 08:13 |
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| marseillai | i'm building my package in pbuilder | 08:31 |
| marseillai | and got this error : | 08:31 |
| marseillai | cd . && python2.5 setup.py build --build-base="/tmp/buildd/katchtv-0.91/./build" | 08:31 |
| marseillai | python2.5: can't open file 'setup.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory | 08:31 |
| marseillai | there's no setup.py in my package | 08:31 |
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| ScottK-laptop | marseillai: Is it a cdbs package? | 08:52 |
| marseillai | ScottK-laptop: yes but i give up this way | 08:52 |
| marseillai | i do all with install file | 08:53 |
| marseillai | perhaps not the cleanest way | 08:53 |
| marseillai | but the easier for me | 08:53 |
| ScottK-laptop | OK. cdbs works really well if you have a good setup.py, but otherwise ... | 08:53 |
| fdoving | marseillai: if you use cdbs, do you include any python magic at the top of the file? | 08:53 |
| marseillai | DEB_PYTHON_SYSTEM = pysupport | 08:54 |
| marseillai | ??? | 08:54 |
| fdoving | i don't know, i have no clue on anything python related. | 08:54 |
| marseillai | ScottK-laptop: i don't have any setup.py | 08:54 |
| fdoving | but i guess cdbs looks for setup.py somehow. | 08:54 |
| mhb | marseillai: remember what I said to you about multiple question marks? | 08:54 |
| mhb | marseillai: :o) | 08:54 |
| fdoving | if you don't trigger it on your own, which you probably don't. | 08:55 |
| marseillai | mhb: ???????? i don't understand your sentence | 08:55 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: status? | 08:56 |
| marseillai | fdoving: yes it was looking for setup.py in include /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/python-distutils.mk so i remove it now and do it with my hand | 08:56 |
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| ScottK-laptop | marseillai: If you figured a way to do it through an install file and it works, then I'd go with it. | 08:56 |
| mhb | marseillai: posting multiple (?)s in one sentence is unnecessary and may appear rude | 08:57 |
| marseillai | ScottK-laptop: now i just need a wrapper ('im looking for an example) and a .desktop i'm doing right now and i should be ok | 08:57 |
| ScottK-laptop | OK. Sorry can't help with that as all the Python packages I've done had a proper setup.py. | 08:58 |
| marseillai | mhb: oki sorry just a bad practice i have | 08:58 |
| marseillai | ScottK-laptop: do you know where i can find an example of a python wrapper | 09:07 |
| marseillai | ? | 09:07 |
| ScottK-laptop | No, sorry. | 09:07 |
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| Lure | Riddell: I have nominated bug 112120 fro Feisty SRU - it would be good to get displayconfig crashes also addressed | 09:11 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 112120 in kde-guidance "guidance-power-manager crashes at startup" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112120 | 09:11 |
| Lure | Riddell: not sure if we can fix more than one bug with one SRU | 09:11 |
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| marseillai | apachelogger: you'll have to poke hobbsee ... :p | 09:19 |
| Riddell | Lure: looks like a good one for SRU, yes you can fix more than one bug at once with a SRU | 09:19 |
| marseillai | Riddell: my katchtv package is almost done i only need something to put in /usr/bin wich call /usr/share/katchtv/KatchTV could you tell me how to do ? | 09:21 |
| marseillai | does a simlink is enough ? | 09:22 |
| apachelogger | marseillai: sounds like a good idea ;-) | 09:22 |
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| === apachelogger is actually wondering | ||
| Lure | Riddell: ok, need to talk with _Sime_ about displayconfig crash issue (seems to be related to multiscreen/xinerama which is quite common these days) | 09:23 |
| apachelogger | marseillai: why isn't katchtv stored in bin? | 09:23 |
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| marseillai | apachelogger: because it's pykde and every file must be in the same directory | 09:24 |
| apachelogger | hm | 09:24 |
| apachelogger | marseillai: ok, simlink seems to be the only soultion | 09:24 |
| apachelogger | or you might want to hack a bit and change the code :P | 09:25 |
| marseillai | no no no | 09:25 |
| marseillai | :) | 09:25 |
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| Riddell | marseillai: why is the executable in /usr/share ? | 09:28 |
| Riddell | marseillai: is it a binary or a script? | 09:28 |
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| Riddell | marseillai: symlink is fine, that's what kde-guidance does | 09:28 |
| Riddell | marseillai: or create a 1 line shell script with echo which calls it | 09:29 |
| marseillai | Riddell: oki i'm currently looking at calling dh_link in my rules file | 09:43 |
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| marseillai | Riddell: but i would like to have more explication about this one line script what do you mean by "echo" ? | 09:45 |
| Mez | w00t I may have got kubuntu a mention in the wall street journal | 09:46 |
| Riddell | marseillai: look at how kde-guidance does it | 09:46 |
| marseillai | oki | 09:46 |
| Riddell | Mez: ooh? | 09:46 |
| Riddell | Mez: how? | 09:46 |
| Mez | Riddell, I had an interview with them about something i do, and I bought up a couple of references to kubuntu :D lol - :D | 09:47 |
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| _StefanS_ | uhm, I kinda wondering what will be the killer feature(s) of kubuntu gutsy... is there anything planned, or are we just doing package updates? | 10:25 |
| _StefanS_ | I/I'm | 10:25 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: no killer on the horizon yet | 10:28 |
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| mhb | _StefanS_: perhaps it will be stability and ease of use :o) | 10:28 |
| _StefanS_ | uhm ok, so I guess it going to be the polish that sets it apart | 10:28 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: is there a killer for Ubuntu Gutsy? | 10:29 |
| _StefanS_ | no don't think so... | 10:30 |
| _StefanS_ | donno how upstart is coming along | 10:30 |
| _StefanS_ | coz thats definitely nice | 10:30 |
| _StefanS_ | would be cool to see that bootsplash/usplash not flickering about when booting though | 10:31 |
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| mhb | is there somebody who monitors the Ubuntu features? Ubuntu FF had a lot of features Kubuntu FF had not, we'll be most likely including some of them in gutsy, but won't we fall one release behind again? | 10:33 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: gdebi-kde will be the killer feature | 10:34 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: gdebi-kde? uhm I dont think I heard about it :D | 10:34 |
| Riddell | it'll be killer. but not literally | 10:34 |
| _StefanS_ | uhm, ok frontend for local debs | 10:35 |
| _StefanS_ | but to be honest I cant think of any killer stuff we need, except for maybe kde 4, but that pretty far out in the horizon | 10:36 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: this is just funny... have you ever noticed that in gtk apps the buttons dont work if you click a button, and then leave the mouse over it as it changes, and click again :) | 10:38 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: that bug has been around like forever.. | 10:39 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: I have noticed, and I'm surprised nobody has fixed it | 10:39 |
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| _StefanS_ | Riddell: hehe, isn't that just funny ? :) | 10:40 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: seems so obvious | 10:40 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: perhaps the killer feature will be a nice kdesu/do effect :o) | 10:40 |
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| _StefanS_ | mhb: ah well, I actually working on it ;) - chances are that I good have time this week | 10:42 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: kdesudo is definitely cool though | 10:42 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: you know what would be killer? A nice Kubuntu website presenting the key Kubuntu features in a marketing-friendly way | 10:43 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: yep we definitely need some nice exposure, the ubuntu.com site is just cool. Maybe we could just do s/ubuntu/kubuntu/g on their stuff. | 10:44 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: with pictures, convincing text and so on | 10:44 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: yep, totally agree | 10:44 |
| _StefanS_ | hmm I need a new cellphone | 10:45 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: have you considered the liberation fonts for kubuntu ? I think they are just amazingly nice | 10:48 |
| Riddell | havn't we got quite enough fonts already? | 10:51 |
| _StefanS_ | well I was just thinking for default font.. | 10:57 |
| _StefanS_ | but nevermind. | 10:58 |
| mhb | the default font is nice, when properly anti-aliased | 10:59 |
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| ryanakca | hmmm... is it just me, or are spammers getting smart (not that they will ever be, but you know what I mean), and making their spam look like launchpad email? | 11:22 |
| mhb | ryanakca: not here, could you perhaps forward that spam to me? :o) | 11:23 |
| mhb | I'd like to see that. | 11:23 |
| Tm_T | mhb: and from this day, every mail from ryanakca to you is considered as spam in your filters? | 11:32 |
| mhb | Tm_T: no, my filters usually don't consider emails from people in my contacts as spam | 11:33 |
| Tm_T | why not | 11:33 |
| mhb | Tm_T: gmail magic | 11:33 |
| Tm_T | sounds stupid | 11:33 |
| mhb | Tm_T: and ryanakca did not send the email | 11:34 |
| mhb | :o) | 11:34 |
| Tm_T | haha | 11:34 |
| ryanakca | mhb: back, hehe | 12:15 |
| ryanakca | mhb: mhb at kubuntu? | 12:15 |
| mhb | ryanakca: martin.bohm at kubu | 12:15 |
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