=== gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === |TheInfinity| [n=TheInfin@p508F189C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Sime_ [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-061-082.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.106.72] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99 [n=n8k99@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-67-143.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === wsjunior [n=wsjunior@201-67-35-187.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy_ [n=yuriy@207-172-67-143.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=ubuntu@katapult/ninja/daskreech] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.102.227] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:00] morning all [07:00] good morning [07:01] !hobbsee [07:01] I phear the stick so shhhhh [07:01] theshkrieek: sshhhh [07:01] hehe [07:04] you mean someone is actually afraid of hobsee? :P [07:04] pygi: theshkrieek is, as he should [07:05] I disagree === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db445a8.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:06] and you should be afraid of me [07:08] meh, dude, you can't even touch me [07:12] Tm_T:!!! where were you when I needed you :( === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-124.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:14] Tm_T: um. later... gonna take a rest from this splitting headache :( [07:17] Jucato: and I'm going to work, see you later -> [07:40] Anyone use xnest a bit? === huahua [n=huahua@60.20.49.90] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ScottK-laptop [n=kitterma@12.198.1.130] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:14] who gimped adept? === _marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.176.77] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:27] DaSkreech: hm? [08:28] you can't switch modes on the fly anymore [08:38] modes? [08:38] !-botsnack [08:38] botsnack has no aliases - added by Amaranth on 2006-08-05 08:42:05 === DaSkreech cracks up [08:38] !botsnack [08:38] Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [08:39] Tm_T: Yeah I could install a bunch of stuff then go back to the package list and look over more stuff [08:39] can't do that anymore :( [08:39] interesting === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _marseillais_ [n=marseill@195.200.176.77] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cmvo [n=cmvo@ex4.73a.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aplg [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cmvo [n=cmvo@ex4.73a.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:11] DaSkreech: um.. View menu -> Package List? [09:11] Doesn't work here [09:11] Let me install something and see [09:13] very much doesn't work here [09:14] hm... [09:14] the only thing still active during a download is hide toolbar === Hobbsee attacks DaSkreech with a herring [09:14] let me double check. I was using adept_manager last night and it was ok [09:14] Hobbsee: red? [09:15] DaSkreech: no, purple. [09:15] DaSkreech: you do mean Adept Manager right? [09:15] hmm less tanning lotion [09:15] Si [09:17] Jucato: that's yes for you :) [09:17] Can Konqui import FF's history? [09:17] nope. I don't think so [09:18] anyway, what do you mean by "hide toolbar" is the only thing active during a download? [09:18] if you could reproduce steps. would be nice for trying to check this bug :) [09:20] select random app that takes more then 4 seconds to download -> select request install -> click on Apply changes -> open view menu -> obsserve that you can't do much but watch the download happen -> go watch heroes -> wait two days and randomly bring it up in a dev channel -> wait for request to confirm bug -> paste this handy dandy line [09:20] ok let me try [09:22] well, I sure can switch to Show Package List, Show Last Dpkg Run, Show Last Download === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:22] Jucato: pong [09:23] Tm_T: yay! done w/ work? :D [09:23] in work [09:23] oh... [09:23] Jucato: version [09:23] but have some sparetime if you need me [09:23] DaSkreech: Adept Manager 2.1 [09:23] Cruiser? [09:23] Tm_T: well anyway, I got bluetooth DUN GPRS working perfectly except for one thing. I can't connect to IRC [09:23] DaSkreech: yes [09:24] Grrr [09:24] well... that was interesting [09:24] so thats how you open a image in cli [09:24] Tm_T: have you ever experienced that? IM, Browsing, Apt-get all work well (except for the speed, but who's complaining) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:26] Jucato: can you tell more exactly what doesn't work? [09:27] like, can you ping irc server? and what servers and ports you tried? [09:27] Tm_T: only IRC. I just can't connect to IRC... where could I go for specific logs? [09:27] no idea =) [09:27] yeah pinging the server works, tried 6667 and 8001 ports [09:27] freenode only (it's the only one I need/know) [09:29] and which freenode server? [09:29] well, irc.ubuntu.com or irc.freenode.net. either of those === Jucato has tried Googling with little luck... :( [09:29] Jucato: DUN? [09:29] Dial Up Networking === Jucato thought that was a widely known acronym... apparently not :P [09:31] Jucato: no I'm asking if that's what you are asking for help with [09:31] aah [09:31] Jucato: DaSkreech it's ZVCDU. [09:31] well, the only problem I had was that I couldn't connect to IRC, no matter what client I tried [09:31] not DUN [09:31] Hobbsee: what's that? O.o === DaSkreech puts Hobbsee on /ignore [09:32] Ze Very Crappy Dial Up. [09:32] lol :) [09:32] Ole! === Hobbsee boots DaSkreech into the middle of next week. YOU CANNOT IGNORE TEH HOBBSEE!!! [09:32] Well I'm on Ze Dial up and Ze Vista [09:32] oh no. nixternal did it? [09:33] no my mom [09:33] Should fix that tomorrow [09:33] and is Ze Sweedish Chef cooking you dinner? === DaSkreech is listening to Hippopotamus by Desmond Dekker on The Original Reggae Hitsound of Desmond Dekker and the Aces [Amarok] [09:34] Bork Bork! [09:34] hehe [09:34] yep [09:41] Night all [09:41] Gnight [09:42] night DaSkreech === huahua_ [n=huahua@60.20.48.147] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:57] Jucato: well, irc.freenode.net is not actually one server, so, howq about directly pointing some specific server [09:58] Jucato: and does irc client give any error then [09:58] Tm_T: hm.. ok... I'll try. I never really noticed which server it was trying to connect to. but iirc, it changes server everytime you try to connect, and I've tried it dozens of time [09:58] no error, just connection lost and tries again [09:59] this is after the initial "Connected: logging in" === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:02] and? [10:03] and what clients you tried? [10:03] irssi and konversation [10:04] ok [10:07] morning === huahua [n=huahua@60.20.58.41] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:15] Tm_T: Trying to connect to kubrick.freenode.net. I can definitely ping that one. it stops at "No identd (auth) response" === Jucato will bbl === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@ip70.kovoks.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:16] ola [10:16] i'm having troubles with vmware, anyone around? === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEEF9E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:50] hi guys :) [10:54] hiya raphink :) [10:54] hi Hobbsee [10:55] howdy ho [10:55] hi Tm_T [10:55] raphy (: [10:57] oh I get a an upside-down smile [10:58] or lefthanded [10:59] hehe [10:59] I don't know, I don't usually use my hands to smile === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F1636.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:20] Riddell, ping [11:21] hi viviersf [11:45] morning Riddell [11:51] morning everyone === IppatsuManXYZ [n=kvirc@213-140-19-123.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-76-204-9-149.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:13] Riddell: you here? [12:14] Riddell: if i want to create a kubuntu-restricted-extras package, like the current ubuntu one, and have deps like libk3b2-mp3 in there - is it better to use shlibdeps stuff (ie, libk3b-dev as a build dep), or just hardcode the particular library in those files? it seems to be using a similar thing to seeds [12:14] (or should i ask mvo?) [12:16] hmm, never seen that ubuntu one [12:17] yeah, go for it, look at the ubuntu source to see how that's done [12:17] Riddell: i have. they dont use a specific library [12:17] so theyhavent had to face the issue [12:17] just hard code then [12:18] okay === Hobbsee ponders msttcorefonts [12:19] will kubuntu implement restricted-drivers-manager for gutsy? [12:19] Hobbsee: that is an eivl package [12:19] evil [12:20] gnomefreak: depends if anyone writes one. i cant ermember who was looking into it [12:20] ty [12:20] mhb has it on his summer of code todo [12:21] ok cool ty === _StefanS_ [i=sfs@nat/ibm/x-8dfc94aa398295f5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:27] is there a back-end for r-d-m? [12:33] no idea. id' think so - it's in ubuntu [12:34] it's mostly separated between backend and frontend [12:35] as I say mhb will do it after gdebi === Hobbsee thought metapackages was a valid category... [12:38] perhaps not in debian. oh well, i'ts used in ubuntu. [12:43] who's Andreas Simon? === xerosis notices the stark resemblence between the new mac os dock and project looking glass... [12:45] whatever happened to LG3D anyway? [12:46] Hobbsee: a motu potential [12:46] Riddell: i meant irc nick [12:46] asimon [12:47] Riddell: i'm looking at kde4-style-qtcurve which looks fine, but there's a newer version [12:47] i'm wondering whether to ack and upload the old versino, as you've already ack'd it, or to get him to uploa dhte new version [12:47] ahhh [12:48] oops. [12:48] the reason my changes to k-r-e arent on revu is because i'm not uploading them there. [12:51] k-r-e? [12:51] oh, extras [12:51] get an archive admin to remove if from new if you accidently uploaded to ubuntu [12:52] they'll rejected it [12:53] Riddell: can you look into http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5482 ? [12:53] (it incidently is the latest version in the ubuntu NEW queue) [12:54] er, s/rejected/reject/ === raphink [i=raphink@nat/wormhole.x-echo.com/x-6cc591a9e805a144] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:30] Any idea what I can do to get my fontsizes fixed up again in Qt apps? They got much bigger last week. Forcing the font resolution does not help. === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:38] Changing the DisplaySize in xorg.conf does change the font sizes in kdm, but not in my KDE session. Is there anything in the user setup that can influence the DPI? [01:43] hunger: you can "enforce" the DPI using systemsettings/appearance/fonts I think [01:49] mhb: That was ignored yesterday. Seems to work now though... thanks. === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger changed all his font settings. I just hope the won't get broken *again*. === RadiantFire_ [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire_ is now known as RadiantFire === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee bounces === Jucato dribbles Hobbsee [02:45] oops.. thought you were a ball... [02:45] mooh === Hobbsee stomps on Jucato's feet === Tm_T is starting to build KDE4 === Jucato turns Tm_T into a fawn [02:45] do we have an #ubuntu-artists channel? [02:46] yup [02:46] what would be the name? [02:46] isn't it #ubuntu-artists ? [02:46] nope. empty [02:46] #ubuntu-art [02:46] ? [02:47] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat [02:47] artwork [02:47] ah thanks. someone was asking :) [02:47] haven't been there for awhile so forgot [02:47] right, artwork; -art is a redirect. [02:47] thanks === manchicken [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:05] Riddell: sorry this took so long: http://obso1337.org/hci/kde/Kubuntu_Installation_Usability_testing_June_2007.pdf [03:09] seele: great, looking === cmvo [n=cmvo@ex4.73a.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:27] seele: plenty to read and act on there [03:28] seele: we actually have a new ubiquity maintainer now, evand. I guess me and colin and him should discuss the recommendations and see if there's time to get those done [03:28] ok [03:28] some of them might not be exact because it was from testing herd 5 [03:29] but i think its pretty obvious that partitioning needs to be looked at [03:29] which of course there should be since he's working on it full time now [03:29] i didnt think it was as big of a problem until i saw people struggling to bad [03:29] ok [03:29] seele: I have a question. Did anyone who participated in the tests know that they could select a different partition/drive to install GRUB to? [03:29] Jucato: no [03:30] Jucato: i tested people who were familiar with installing/configuring software on windows (someone who might be interested in trying out linux) [03:30] ah [03:30] i think trying to explain a bootloader would have made them esplode [03:30] partitioning would have already made them explode :) [03:30] hehe [03:31] I'm bad.. I haven't given ubiquity much attention because I preferred alternate install cd's :( [03:32] I wonder if it has a sort of Help button with a corresponding guide... === Hobbsee waves to seele [03:33] hi Hobbsee [03:33] seele: nice report with lots of good points === haggai [n=halls@credativ.bcnadsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t is now known as hunger [03:57] seele: while you're here do you might having a quick look a UI? [03:57] seele: it's just rough but need to see if I'm on the right lines... === RadiantFire_ [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:01] xerosis: i can look, but technically i'm at work :) [04:02] <_marseillais_> When is the freeze for new software inclusion ? [04:02] seele: oh okay no worries, just give me ping next time you're at home :) [04:06] _marseillais_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyReleaseSchedule [04:07] <_marseillais_> arf [04:07] <_marseillais_> i must hurry to include pikdev .... [04:08] <_marseillais_> but it seems it is unmaintained [04:08] <_marseillais_> :( [04:08] what's that? [04:09] august 16th is UVF [04:09] <_marseillais_> i thought it was Remaining upstream merges completed, Rebuild Test the 21 june for new apps .... [04:09] <_marseillais_> thanks Riddell === apachelogger [n=me@N867P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === dinosaur-rus [n=dinosaur@ppp91-76-76-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:47] hi === Tm_T hides [04:48] hiya [04:48] why did Tm_T hide? :) [04:48] don't pretend you are not in mafia, all russians are [04:49] I know, but you won't get ME! === Tm_T stays hidden [04:49] :P [04:49] I'm harmless :) [04:49] so they all say [04:49] and then you lose your ears [04:49] hahah [04:50] hum, from what region you are? [04:50] Moscow [04:50] humm, that far, shame === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44711.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:51] I'm from eastern Finland [04:51] not so far :) [04:52] ok, so I can assassinate you before you kill more innocent hu-mans [04:52] oh, then I should hide from you, not you from me :) === Tm_T hides dinosaur-rus from himself [04:53] better? [04:55] hey :)) [04:56] hey hey *bang* === apacheLAGger [n=me@N865P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:01] is Qt 4.3 going to be released for pre-Gutsy distributions? [05:01] dinosaur-rus: unlikely, unless anyone puts in the effort to do it [05:02] wonder what it requires to do... [05:02] i dont think there are current plans to [05:05] another question -- recently OpenOffice.org released bugfix-only 2.2.1 version of their software. will packages be updated? [05:05] for what, feisty? [05:06] unlikely, as it's so huge. mind you, one could use PPA and launchpad for that, i guess.... [05:06] depends on the demand and such === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.100.249] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:14] Riddell: ping? [05:15] Riddell: what are your thoughts on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/119467? [05:15] Launchpad bug 119467 in kubuntu-meta "make non-essential packages Recommends and not Depends" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [05:19] Hobbsee: the general policy is that any package which can be removed and you can still sanely call the result a "kubuntu desktop" should be recommends [05:19] Riddell: right. have you got any problems with any of those packages being moved to recommends? [05:19] whether e.g. amarok should be in there is unclear [05:19] and the other question is the technical one - how to change it? [05:19] wlel, a base kde desktop, i would expect, would be part of kubuntu-desktkop [05:19] without the extra, cool, kde apps [05:19] seems to me it wouldn't be kubuntu without amarok [05:19] you put brackets around the name in the seeds [05:19] strigi should be recommends certainly [05:19] Riddell: true that. it's the case of people who compile it from svn or whatever [05:19] Riddell: ie, how much of a base kubuntu do you need, and which components cant you remove [05:19] not "what's the best desktop experience?" [05:19] because of course, having everything in k-d installed is going to be the best [05:22] ahhh.... [05:22] right [05:25] err, if you don't like to have "full Kubuntu desktop" how about not installing kubuntu-desktop ? [05:25] or what's the problem? [05:26] that's kindae my thinking [05:26] well that's sort of logical thinking? [05:26] whole point of kubuntu-desktop is to provide, err, kubuntu desktop [05:26] the ones marked recommends are so because it's understandable not to use them, knetworkmanager isn't right for everyone, neither is openoffice [05:26] not "minimal desktop with some recommends" [05:27] doing dishes while kdelibs compiles -> === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee bashes the ISP into hte middle of the next milenium [05:39] Hobbsee: err, that's not punishment [05:39] heh [05:39] bash them to Russia [05:40] Tm_T, don't be so unfriendly :) [05:41] I'm not (; [05:42] you remember the times when people were transmitted to Siberia for punishment? [05:43] Tm_T, lots of time passed since then. don't shame on Russia for USSR's mistakes [05:43] we still say "Siperia opettaa" = "Siberia teatches" [05:43] dinosaur-rus: I don't =) [05:43] and mistakes of pre-USSR time [05:47] dinosaur-rus: just my way of seeing world, always humour in it [05:47] :) [05:47] world and life [05:48] Riddell: i'm suspecting we should support the choice of users that they may want to remove some apps. [05:48] but it does cause headaches for upgrades, i guess [05:48] Riddell: by the number of bugs about it...it's something that's reqeuested, for wahtever reason [05:49] and it's an alternative to installing kdebase and kdelibs, and then bitching about no khelpcentre or whatever [05:56] ohhh, KDE4 is going to be released a bit too late to be finally included in Gutsy :P === marseillai [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-115-34.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:00] dinosaur-rus: actually, WAY too late [06:02] wow, nice last comment in that bug... === xerosis didn't scroll down... [06:03] mhb: KDE4'll be released after just 5 days after Gutsy :)) less than a week [06:03] xerois: lol [06:03] xerosis [06:04] xerosis: and it's soo long :) === mbiebl [n=michael@e180068061.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:09] dinosaur-rus: I know, but we would need to have it released before our feature freeze [06:10] dinosaur-rus: which is a lot earlier than final release === RadiantFire_ is now known as RadiantFire [06:18] how the next-to-Gutsy version will be called? IIRC, "H" letter is already used :P [06:18] dinosaur-rus: no one knows === meven [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-166-217.w90-32.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99 [n=n8k99@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:36] could anyone give me a name of a pykde based package done with CDBS? if possible a simple one. it's to see how it's done. [06:36] I doubt we have any [06:37] check all the ones from apt-cache rdepends python-kde3 [06:37] thanks [06:37] i'll [06:37] i'll try lphoto [06:38] grrrr debhelper === dinosaur-rus [n=dinosaur@ppp91-76-76-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [06:42] I don't think there will be any [06:42] just use debhelper, it's not so bad === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F1636.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:45] Riddell: is there a legit reason for ~/.local/ to be owned by root? === kwwii [n=kwwii@207.47.10.130.static.nextweb.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:50] Hobbsee: can't imagine so [06:50] hi kwwii, how's the food at mountain view? [06:50] Riddell: that's the solution for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/kdebase/+bug/88426 - where best to implement it? ie, chowning it back to the regualr users [06:50] Launchpad bug 88426 in kdebase "kmenuedit does not save changes." [Low,Confirmed] [06:51] Riddell: pretty good but I am still sick [06:51] Riddell: the DA meeting starts tomorrow [06:51] been here working with intel and nokia people since yesterday [06:53] kwwii: you shouldn't be working if you're sick! [06:54] Riddell: well, I came all this way so just staying in the hotel seems stupid [06:56] Hobbsee: solution would be to find out what's chowning it to root and fixing that [06:56] Riddell: true that [06:57] Riddell: work around would be to chown it after adept runs each time or somethiing. or after kdesudo runs. === Hobbsee shrugs === Tonio_ [n=tonio@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:58] hey ;) [06:58] anyone there (c++ coder required) [06:58] I have to write a fix for ark, for I can't find the function/class I need [06:58] Tonio_!!! [06:58] hey ;) [07:03] mhb: ping ? [07:03] or Riddell ? [07:04] Tonio_: hi. what ark fix? [07:04] fdoving: simply : [07:04] zip files don't have the filename encoding in it [07:04] Tonio_: here [07:04] the zip binary by defaults encodes file names using latin-1 [07:04] that's a zip format limitation [07:05] the point is that when you want to display a zip file content with ark [07:05] it considers everything is utf-8 [07:07] the idea would be to convert the filename string from latin1 to the system charset, utf-8 for ubuntu [07:07] and display this [07:07] that'll fix a 4 year old bug [07:07] the point is that I can't seem to find a class to convert a string charset.... all I know is iconv [07:07] mhb: hey ;) I hope you can help on that point [07:07] Tonio_: ah. i might, but i have to search some docs. i hate encodings. hang on. [07:07] once I get that class I think I an patch myself [07:07] fdoving: same for me :( [07:07] but it would be nice to fix this :) [07:07] for kubuntu, kde and the french parliament :) [07:08] Tonio_: http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/qtextcodec.html [07:10] fdoving: hi, have you commited your cleanup to kdesudo yet? === meven_ [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-134-33.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:11] Tonio_: and i think you would use something like: http://rafb.net/p/M46yMg96.html [07:12] fdoving: well the point is that I need to convert from iso-8859-1 to "the system charset" [07:12] mhb: hi, i think so, i'll check. [07:12] fdoving: any idea how to get it ? via the env variables ? [07:12] Tonio_: ah, the other way around. === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:13] Tonio_: then you can use local8Bit() [07:13] which is ? [07:13] Tonio_: A qstring member [07:14] fdoving: according to LP nothing was commited [07:15] mhb: funny, i'll do it then. [07:15] Tonio_: http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/i18n.html [07:16] thanks :) [07:16] that'll help === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:19] Tonio_: the http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/qstring.html#local8Bit is a good hint i guess. === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-048-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:28] mhb: commited. === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:45] Tonio_: status? [07:45] fdoving: working on it :) [07:45] ark code is really ugly :) [07:57] i met this cutie at work today: http://frode.kde.no/work/Bilde(243).jpg [07:58] fdoving: awww...cute :P [07:58] .. and belive it or not, i met another one, bigger kind too: http://frode.kde.no/work/Bilde(244).jpg [07:59] very cute :) === ScottK-laptop [n=kitterma@166.129.57.131] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:13] fdoving: sweet [08:13] very :) === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44428.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@N732P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger === marseillai don't understand [08:31] i'm building my package in pbuilder [08:31] and got this error : [08:31] cd . && python2.5 setup.py build --build-base="/tmp/buildd/katchtv-0.91/./build" [08:31] python2.5: can't open file 'setup.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory [08:31] there's no setup.py in my package === hunger [n=tobias@p54A7203F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jonasp [i=jonas@i59F7505E.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meven__ [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-142-135.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:52] marseillai: Is it a cdbs package? [08:52] ScottK-laptop: yes but i give up this way [08:53] i do all with install file [08:53] perhaps not the cleanest way [08:53] but the easier for me [08:53] OK. cdbs works really well if you have a good setup.py, but otherwise ... [08:53] marseillai: if you use cdbs, do you include any python magic at the top of the file? [08:54] DEB_PYTHON_SYSTEM = pysupport [08:54] ??? [08:54] i don't know, i have no clue on anything python related. [08:54] ScottK-laptop: i don't have any setup.py [08:54] but i guess cdbs looks for setup.py somehow. [08:54] marseillai: remember what I said to you about multiple question marks? [08:54] marseillai: :o) [08:55] if you don't trigger it on your own, which you probably don't. [08:55] mhb: ???????? i don't understand your sentence [08:56] Tonio_: status? [08:56] fdoving: yes it was looking for setup.py in include /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/python-distutils.mk so i remove it now and do it with my hand === kwwii [n=kwwii@207.47.10.130.static.nextweb.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:56] marseillai: If you figured a way to do it through an install file and it works, then I'd go with it. [08:57] marseillai: posting multiple (?)s in one sentence is unnecessary and may appear rude [08:57] ScottK-laptop: now i just need a wrapper ('im looking for an example) and a .desktop i'm doing right now and i should be ok [08:58] OK. Sorry can't help with that as all the Python packages I've done had a proper setup.py. [08:58] mhb: oki sorry just a bad practice i have [09:07] ScottK-laptop: do you know where i can find an example of a python wrapper [09:07] ? [09:07] No, sorry. === meven_ [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-124-39.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:11] Riddell: I have nominated bug 112120 fro Feisty SRU - it would be good to get displayconfig crashes also addressed [09:11] Launchpad bug 112120 in kde-guidance "guidance-power-manager crashes at startup" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112120 [09:11] Riddell: not sure if we can fix more than one bug with one SRU === apachelogger is wondering what is going to happen when he reaches 20 packages on revu mainpage [09:19] apachelogger: you'll have to poke hobbsee ... :p [09:19] Lure: looks like a good one for SRU, yes you can fix more than one bug at once with a SRU [09:21] Riddell: my katchtv package is almost done i only need something to put in /usr/bin wich call /usr/share/katchtv/KatchTV could you tell me how to do ? [09:22] does a simlink is enough ? [09:22] marseillai: sounds like a good idea ;-) === marseillai was not sure === apachelogger is actually wondering [09:23] Riddell: ok, need to talk with _Sime_ about displayconfig crash issue (seems to be related to multiscreen/xinerama which is quite common these days) [09:23] marseillai: why isn't katchtv stored in bin? === apachelogger considers not proper coding in case of accessing file data [09:24] apachelogger: because it's pykde and every file must be in the same directory [09:24] hm [09:24]