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kharlossso12:14
kharlossany ideea ?12:14
Dr_willisclarify what you have done, and what exactly is going on. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop 'should' install several dozen+ packages and get you a working X system12:15
MinatakuSup, Dr_willis ? :D12:16
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Dr_willisjust got back from the hospital12:18
Dr_williswifes all drugged up12:18
MinatakuDr_willis: Everything okay?12:18
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Dr_willisyea shes just recovering from the drugs.12:20
Dr_willisso im trying to  compiule some kde themes - while chnging her pukepans :)12:21
Dr_willisi think she finially went to sleep12:21
MinatakuHeh12:21
Dr_willischecking for KDE... configure: error:12:21
Dr_willisin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.12:21
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Dr_willisDang it - Ive installed every kde dev file i can think of. :)12:21
Dr_willis ./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix`12:21
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Dr_willisshould be the proper ./confgure command also I think12:22
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darkrift_can anyone here point me to a program for linux that will crack an adobe ebooks protections, or a very good OCR program?12:25
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fathumdo u know some software for publishing like adobe indesign? ...but no scribus12:27
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Admiral_Chicagodarkrift_: Kooka12:28
Dr_willis!aptfix12:29
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:29
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darkrift_Uptime: 20 hours and 26 minutes12:30
darkrift_w99t12:30
darkrift_w00t*12:30
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darkrift_Random Fortune: ...Unix, MS-DOS, and Windows NT (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). -- Matt Welsh12:30
darkrift_wow12:30
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Dr_willis18:32:21 up 19:34,  2 users,  load average: 0.11, 0.14, 0.0612:32
Dr_willisMy mythtv box had 4+ weeks of uptime once.12:32
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Dr_willisthen the thunderstorms hit. :) power failure12:33
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darkrift_my laptops normally have 3+ months uptime12:34
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Dr_willisgee.. does Hibernated to disk time count? :)12:35
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zipperHmm.... Can anyone recommend an alternative to Konversation?12:37
zipper(irc)12:37
antiroachxchat12:37
zipperIs that for gnome?12:37
darkrift_mirc (with crossover officer) lol12:38
tdnknetworkmanager stopped working. It does no longer show available networks. I need to manually edit /etc/network/interfaces to get on the network. How do I fix this? This is my /etc/network/interfaces: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/P605.html.12:38
zipperdarkrift_: hah, no chance in hell i wanna use mirc12:38
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darkrift_i got tons of scripts ive written for it12:38
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darkrift_so i need those working12:38
Minataku 18:38:16 up 92 days, 14:04,  5 users,  load average: 0.30, 0.49, 0.3512:38
Minataku:D12:38
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zipperhmm12:39
zipperor well12:39
Minatakuzipper: XChat12:39
Minataku!info xchat12:39
ubotuxchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB12:39
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intelikeyi seem to have an error    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37360    kde wont start12:40
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zipperMinataku: Hmm... If i can figure out to just have Konversation to sort nicks after status/flags, instead of alphabeticly12:40
zipperi guess i could give it some more time12:41
zipperanyone knows?12:41
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Minatakuzipper: Why bother with that KDE crap? :P12:41
zipperi like kde =/12:41
MinatakuDoesn't mean you have to use every single program that starts with a "K"12:41
zipperlike BB more, but i thought i would give kde a testing12:41
zipperheh12:41
zipperofcourse not :S12:41
intelikeywell let rephrase that.   kde is started, but it's in an infinite loop12:42
MinatakuSorry, just woke up and got annoyed by my dad... as per friggin' usual12:42
darkrift_zipper:12:42
darkrift_thats easy12:43
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zipper_ah12:43
zipper_xchat is pretty nice12:43
darkrift_in options12:43
darkrift_look for nickname list12:43
darkrift_ther eis an option there to sort by status12:43
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zipper_okay, thanks12:43
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37360   any way to "unhange" that ?     (actually "deloop" maybe)12:44
zipper_in xchat, how do i get a tab with all the people in the channel?12:44
Dr_willischeck the settings/menus12:44
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GrueTamerzipper_: you should have to expand it, it starts out really thin12:45
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Dr_willisview->layout->12:45
zipper_ah12:45
zipper_lol12:45
Dr_willisOh yea - i recall that the first timeya start xchat. :)12:45
ubuntuNoobusi have a machine running an xp kubuntu dual boot  and using ntfs-config can view the windows part in linux but i also have to other drives that i cannot see? any ideas12:45
ubuntuNoobusi'm using a dfi lanpoarty nf590 and all 3 drives are sata12:46
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Dr_willisubuntu,  what other drives>? ntfs parttitions?12:47
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ubuntuNoobusi've got the main drive partition into 3 the 1st being a 150gb ntfs part the secong ext3 linux 144gb and the 3rd a 6gb swap part12:48
ubuntuNoobusthe other 2 drives are ntfs 1 at 250gb and the other at 160gb12:48
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intelikeycat /proc/partitions       and pastebin the output12:49
Dr_willis6gb swap- egads.12:49
intelikeyyeah12:49
Dr_willisyou could always edit the fstab file manually and make them mount where ya want12:49
ubuntuNoobusmy machine is running 3gb of ram12:50
Dr_willisthers also some kde tool for that. but i never use it.12:50
Dr_willisso ya rarely if ever NEED swap.. so ya add a lot of it. :)12:50
intelikeythen why in the universe do you even have swap ?12:50
ubuntuNoobusso i thought the rule was twice for the swap12:50
tdnknetworkmanager stopped working. It does no longer show available networks. I need to manually edit /etc/network/interfaces to get on the network. How do I fix this? This is my /etc/network/interfaces: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/P605.html.12:50
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ubuntuNoobusi really am a noob12:50
antiroachyou dont need 6 gig swap12:50
Daisuke_IdoDr_willis: i hesitate to recommend kde's disk and filesystems applet to anyone12:51
antiroachyou can always add temporary swap manually12:51
Dr_willisDaisuke_Ido,  i can never rember where its at.12:51
ubuntuNoobusok i'kll remember that12:51
intelikeyyou don't "need" any swap.12:51
Daisuke_Idocaused me no end of headaches.  i eventually said f it and edited the fstab by hand12:51
fathumdo u know some irc canal about computer graphic?12:51
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genii!info atftp dapper12:52
ubotuatftp: advanced TFTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7-11 (dapper), package size 26 kB, installed size 112 kB12:52
BluesKajfathum, which graphics card ?12:53
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neptunepinkEureka!12:53
Keldon85hi; I am having serious troubles with my monitor in Kubuntu12:53
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intelikeyso no sujestions on breaking out of the loop http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37360 ?    no cute little xsetx blah   or nofin ?12:54
neptunepinkintelikey: ^C.12:54
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Daisuke_IdoKeldon85: lemme guess, you can't get resolution above 1024x768?12:55
intelikeythat doesn't help neptunepink,  i want kde to run.  not just kill it.12:55
Keldon85the monitor can work at 1280x1024, 1024x768 and so on; but when I try 1024x768 on kubuntu it does not work12:55
Keldon85well I can't even get 1212:55
Keldon85*1024x76812:55
neptunepinkdisplay is set? right user? That's all I can think of.12:55
Daisuke_Idoso 800x600 and below.12:55
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Keldon85yes12:55
Daisuke_Idoright video drivers?  xorg configured properly?12:55
Daisuke_Idowhat video card12:56
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fathumto blueskaj: i think canal about computer graphic artists12:56
intelikeywell never mind.  i'll go rewrite /usr/bin/startkde12:56
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Keldon85well; I'm on an ATI X550 and it recognizes what it is; as for xorg configured properly, that's where I get stuck because it asks for things I just can't ever know about12:56
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Daisuke_Ido!resolution12:57
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:57
Daisuke_Idothat will probably help :)12:57
Keldon85another problem is that since x is not starting I cannot get onto IRC as I did not install the text IRC client12:57
marcus_Hi. How do I make my home folder visible on the desktop?12:57
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Daisuke_IdoKeldon85: you can install irssi from a VT (ctrl-alt-1 through 6) by typing 'sudo apt-get install irssi'12:59
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Keldon85well what I want to know is what it is about Kubuntu that makes it have troubles that Mandrake does not with my monitor; in the last two versions of Kubuntu the live CD would only display at 640x480 unless I use safe mode12:59
Keldon85ahh that's the one; irssi!12:59
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intelikeywell that did it.     added line to the beginning of the script /usr/bin/startkde   and re ran it.    all working now.           line = "[ -z "$DISPLAY" ]  && export DISPLAY=':0' "01:00
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neptunepinkintelikey: but only for that one display :b01:00
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intelikeyneptunepink if it's ran on another display then "DISPLAY" should already be set    no?01:01
Keldon85#ntfs01:01
Keldon85!ntfs01:01
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:01
eagles0513875!fuse01:02
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse01:02
Keldon85thanks by the way01:02
eagles0513875anyone know about jack and how to set up a server01:02
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damianos_wengophone !01:03
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damianos_what do you think about wengophone ?01:04
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avalonIs there a way I can set my kubuntu wallpaper to be a terminal?01:04
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tomek_jest tu kto?01:05
intelikeysure takes kpersonalizer a long time to finish01:05
neptunepink!pl01:05
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl01:05
tomek_thx01:06
damianos_czesc01:06
damianos_uzywacie moze wengophone01:06
damianos_dzisiaj odkrylem01:06
damianos_skype pod linuksem pozostaje daaaleko w tyle jezeli chodzi o wengophone01:07
eagles0513875anyone have experience with jack01:07
avalonIs there a way I can set my kubuntu wallpaper to be a konsole window?01:07
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jarnWhere is the volume control?01:09
intelikeyhmmmm it doesn't work to    ln -s /dev/null ~/.kde      meeh  just thought i'd try....   trying to create local folder /usr/src/kernel/.kde/share: Not a directory01:10
intelikeyError: Can't open display:01:10
intelikey.: 81: Can't open /usr/src/kernel/.kde/share/config/startupconfig01:10
damianos_is there anybody with webcam i need some help01:10
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Daisuke_Idono we will not put on a show for you to fulfill your sick little fantasies...01:13
J-_What's a good OSX themed icon set?01:13
Daisuke_Idodunno, i don't use OS X01:14
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J-_for  KDE01:14
J-_"OSX themed"01:14
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kubuhola01:15
kubucomo va todo?01:15
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kubualguno usa activamnete kubuntu??01:16
kubuo hace tiempo que lo usa mejor dicho??01:16
J-_!english01:16
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat01:16
kubuah ok!01:16
kubusomebody, can help me!01:16
kubuabout kubuntu 7.0401:16
SlimeyPetewhat is the problem, kubu?01:17
BluesKajkubu, just ask your question01:17
kubui have a problem wiht my cdrom device...01:17
kubukubuntu not detect this...01:17
kubusorry for my english, im argentine01:18
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BluesKaj!es | kubu01:19
ubotukubu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:19
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kubuok how change my channel to kubuntu-es?01:20
J-_ /join #kubuntu-es01:20
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kubu#kubuntu-es01:21
kubuok01:21
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ailenHola01:21
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kubualien deberas cambiarte al cnal ubuntu-es01:22
kubuaqui es solo ingles!01:22
kubuthanks koin01:23
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kubunobody respond my aswers in the channel in espaol01:26
kubuhehe01:27
kubumaybe here somebody can help me01:27
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kubu!!!01:27
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kubuwith my bad english, maybe i can explain my problem with a device...01:28
zipper!remove01:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remove - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:28
zipperoh01:28
zippersorry01:28
kubumy problem is about a problem with a lector/cd rom01:29
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kubui cant mount a cdrom, please help!01:30
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rodrigohey01:47
DrDankjo01:48
DrDankhi01:48
rodrigoany one using ktranslator?01:48
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rodrigommm01:48
DrDanksorry bud.01:48
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DrDankI guess Im going to go get dinner and watch the naked mile.01:49
DrDanklater.01:49
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J-_where does kubuntu store themes, .themes? All I see is Gnome themes there.01:58
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J-_!themes01:58
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy01:58
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rodrigohello?01:59
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cotyrotheryAdmiral_Chicago: Does deskreech ever come on anymore02:02
Admiral_Chicagocotyrothery: he was on last night02:03
cotyrotheryah ok well do you remember me02:03
cotyrotheryi have not been on in like a month because my computer broke02:03
cotyrotheryi was the one who had trouble getting kubuntu to install02:04
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Admiral_Chicagono i don't remember02:05
Admiral_Chicagobbiab02:05
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strabeshow do you enter passwords for rar files with ark?02:06
strabeswhen you're extracting them02:06
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jriachihello02:13
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Dhraakellianwell, I got glx stuff working again02:21
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Dhraakellian...slowly02:21
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shiers69"/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" <--I get this message when only my blank scsi drive is installed and i'm trying to boot from the livecd (7.04) anyone got any ideas?02:24
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shiers69havn't been able to find a solution online yet02:24
shiers69hello?02:26
shiers69anyone home?02:26
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shiers69"/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" <--I get this message when only my blank scsi drive is installed and i'm trying to boot from the livecd (7.04) anyone got any ideas?02:27
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shiers69"/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" <--I get this message when only my blank scsi drive is installed and i'm trying to boot from the livecd (7.04) anyone got any ideas?02:42
Dhraakellianhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia seems to be focused on gnome as far as GUI instructions go, and the kubuntu wiki page simply redirects me there02:43
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jriachiDhraakellian: it is at kernel/Xorg level, it will work for ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu...02:44
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Dhraakellian"System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager"02:44
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gon!mpg02:44
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:44
shiers69When i try to install from a live cd (kubuntu 7.04) while only having my blank scsi disk installed i receive the "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" error, is there a fix for this yet?02:45
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Dhraakellian!nvidia02:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:45
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linux_Hi there.02:46
shiers69hi02:46
linux_Im having troubele getting 3d support02:46
linux_:(02:46
Dhraakellianokay, so apt-get install nvidia-legacy-glx (for a geforce2) and then switching to the nvidia driver instead of nv should do the trick, right?02:46
linux_anyone know how i can get it02:46
jriachiDhraakellian:  right02:46
linux_its a ATI laptop card02:46
Dhraakellianglx stuff wasn't working for me the last time I tried it02:46
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linux_i installed the ati driver thing02:47
shiers69linux_: consider yourself lucky, i can't even get kubuntu to install02:47
linux_then some 3d games say i havent got opengl :S02:47
linux_shiers69: why????02:47
shiers69When i try to install from a live cd (kubuntu 7.04) while only having my blank scsi disk installed i receive the "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" error, is there a fix for this yet?02:47
DhraakellianI just uninstalled nvidia-legacy-glx, and glxgears, bzflag, et al. actually load for me02:47
linux_sorry for so many ?'s02:47
Dhraakellianthey run slowly, but they load02:47
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jriachii just installed nvidia-glx, for my nv6800-go02:49
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DhraakellianGeForce2 MX/MX 40002:50
giovani2I just upgraded hald and the kernel to the newest version, upon restart, kdm will not launch kde after entering a password, it simply restarts itself02:50
giovani2I've looked in the Xorg and KDM logs ... nothing seems to stand out -- any recommendations?02:51
giovani2this is feisty02:51
jriachigiovani2: and in the ~/.xsession-errors?02:52
giovani2let me check, hold on02:52
Dhraakellianokay, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, right?02:53
giovani2jriachi: that file is empty02:53
jriachiDhraakellian: right02:54
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Dhraakellianokay, now glxgears was able to run before this02:54
Dhraakelliannow, let's see if it works afterwards02:54
shiers69anyone home?02:56
jriachii am at home :)02:57
shiers69do you know how to fix the error i'm having?02:57
giovani2jriachi: any other ideas?02:57
jriachinop02:57
shiers69it's amazing that there are so many people in here yet no one is here02:57
gon!mp302:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:57
hikaricorewe like to idle02:58
jriachi(so    cat /home/*/.xsession-errors    returns no answer, giovani2? )02:58
shiers69how bout you hikaricore... know how to solve my problem?02:58
shiers69can't find any solutions online anywhere02:59
giovani2jriachi: correct02:59
jriachigiovani2: then i have no idea02:59
hikaricoresadly no i had that problem in alpha feisty, but never figured out what caused it02:59
jriachitry starting /usr/sbin/kdm  as root in a virtual console03:00
shiers69i sure am glad my pc w/ vista works fine ;-)03:00
jriachito check the output, giovani203:00
hikaricoreeww03:00
giovani2jriachi: should I kill the already running kdm first?03:00
jriachigiovani2: yes03:00
hikaricorethou shalt not mention satans name in #kubuntu03:00
hikaricore^_^03:00
shiers69heh03:00
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Frederickfolks why kpalmdoc is not on repos?03:01
jriachihikaricore: for kubuntu users,  to use Vista is not a sin03:01
jriachiit is a penitence03:01
sebastianhookerno, vista is a sin03:01
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sebastianhookerand i will not go any other way03:01
giovani2jriachi: kdm is located in /usr/bin, and it detaches from the console after starting03:01
sebastianhookerlol03:01
giovani2and brings it back to a prompt03:01
hikaricorevista is worse than killing babies03:01
hikaricorei'm done with that comment03:01
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jriachisebastianhooker: then i have no idea about how to help you (i guess i am still too much used to the debian way...)03:02
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jriachisorry03:03
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Dhraakellianthat... didn't work03:05
DhraakellianI ran "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"03:06
Dhraakellianthen logged out and did /etc/init.d/kdm restart03:06
Dhraakellianblack screen with the Kubuntu logo graphic and an empty progress bar03:06
Dhraakellianthen, after a while, just a single blinking text cursor up in the corner03:07
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jriachiDhraakellian: sorry to hear that03:08
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jriachithey say that intel is the best for 3d on linux, since there are opensource drivers, and such... i have no idea, tho03:10
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Dhraakellianjriachi: yeah, but getting hardware acceleration with the onboard intel stuff was a nightmare the last time I tried03:12
jriachino idea, i have only this nvidia laptop, my last intel was a i740 :)03:12
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Dhraakellianthen I plugged in the nvidia card, installed the drivers, (and perhaps followed a few instructions on the gentoo docs... I don't remember), and it mostly just worked03:13
jriachiDhraakellian: you may want to try with the .run from nvidia.com  (it gave me problems, like dissapearing virtual consoles at control-alt-F1)03:14
Dhraakellian?03:14
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giovani2hmm, this kdm problem is very frustrating03:14
jriachigiovani2: so... no log?03:15
giovani2which log are you referrnig to?03:15
giovani2there was no .xsession-errors file03:16
giovani2there are logs for kdm and x, but I don't see any fatal errors or anything03:16
jriachimine contains...03:17
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giovani2I'm not sure if this is kernel related, or hald related -- I upgraded both at the same time, but neither of the kernels (that includes the -15 one I had, and was working fine from install months ago) are working -- both give this error, even in "recovery mode"03:17
jriachi<stdin>:0: warning: Unknown encoding: es_ES.UTF-8@euro03:17
jriachi    startkde: Starting up...03:17
jriachistartkde: kpersonalizer not found! Please install to properly configure your user.03:17
giovani2well, it would appear that that's written when kde starts03:17
jriachito it is strange, you dont get any line :S03:18
giovani2kde is not starting ..03:18
giovani2or not staying open, at least03:18
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giovani2are there any kde logs?03:18
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jriachii have no idea03:18
giovani2well it's paralyzed my computer -- bad position to be in03:19
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mallenhello all03:20
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soulrider_jriachi: Dhraakellian if you have an nvidia card its better to use the drivers from the repos and not install the ones from nvidia.com03:20
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soulrider_hi Kazzline03:20
Dhraakellianhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia <--the 7.04 section there is fairly usless if you don't have Gnome03:20
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Kazzlinehow goes it03:21
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pakotmhola03:21
soulriderhola pakotm03:21
soulrider!es | pakotm03:21
ubotupakotm: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:21
pakotmaxias03:21
pakotmbye03:21
pakotmhi03:21
Kazzlineanyone else have ubuntu installed on a ibm lappy?03:21
Kazzlinei'm having a hell of a time getting the wifi working right03:22
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Dhraakellianhttp://http.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html <-- Huh... is that page up to date?03:24
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Dhraakellianit doesn't show the GeForce2 MX/MX 400 in the legacy section03:25
Dhraakellianbut I'm sure I was using the legacy package on Gentoo03:25
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brian__ive installed the nvidia glx driver/enabled it but a restart only shows a blinking cursor..any ideas03:26
JucatoDhraakellian: um... the up to date list would be in the latest driver page03:26
Dhraakellianokay03:27
Dhraakellianthen which page had that link that I followed03:27
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Dhraakellianhmm03:27
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JucatoDhraakellian: that's the 8762 driver03:27
Dhraakellianwell, nevermind then03:27
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louis_hey guys03:29
louis_if i accidentally close a terminal window during apt-get install, how can i bring it back up to see the progress?03:29
moshehi, have problem with built-in bluetooth on thinkpad x40, hciconfig -a shows empty, while dmesg shows that bluetooth was loaded and bluetooth service is running. also, no hciX devices03:30
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DhraakellianThe 1.0-96xx driver supports the following set of GPUs:03:31
DhraakellianGeForce2 MX/MX 400  0x011003:31
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Dhraakellianwhich, according to version numbers in synaptic, means that I should still be using nvidia-glx instead of nvidia-glx-legacy03:32
JucatoDhraakellian: check under which section that video card is listed? there are 3 sections corresponding to nvidia-glx-new, nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-legacy03:33
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DhraakellianJucato: it's right at the top of the list for the 1.0-96xx section03:34
Jucatocan you throw me a link? :)03:34
Dhraakellianhttp://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html03:34
DhraakellianI guess I had just assumed that I'd be using nvidia-glx-legacy since I was using the legacy package on Gentoo03:34
Jucatoyep. should be nvidia-glx, not -legacy, not -new03:35
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lunar-raven!azureus03:35
ubotuazureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo03:35
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gon!mpg03:36
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brian__ne ideas?03:37
sebastianhookerdomo arogoto find your inner ubotu :D03:37
sebastianhookerbrian__: look up03:37
DhraakellianNi!03:37
JucatoDhraakellian: because Kubuntu is not Gentoo, and vice versa. they have different package naming conventions03:37
brian__sry left for a fw min03:37
sebastianhookerjucato: *throws URL at his head*03:38
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DhraakellianJucato: so the split between regular and -legacy is distro-side rather than upstream?03:38
sebastianhookerjucato: catches it and eats it, then shoots a gun at jucato03:39
JucatoDhraakellian: hm.. btw, who told you in Gentoo that you should use nvidia-legacy-drivers?03:39
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DhraakellianJucato: it's been long enough now that I don't remember03:40
Dhraakellianwho knows?  maybe I just misread a doc03:40
hikaricoreonly the shadow knows..03:40
hikaricoreheh03:40
JucatoDhraakellian: because I'm looking at it right now, and the driver number itself tells me that you shouldn't have used the legacy ones (7184)03:40
sebastianhookerwell, kubuntu linux uses binary, like any operating system, there are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who do not.03:40
Jucatoanyway, Gentoo has only 2 drivers for nvidia, legacy and the normal one. while Kubuntu has 303:41
n8k99sebastianhooker: heheh03:41
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sebastianhookern8k99 understands binary03:41
sebastianhooker:D03:41
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Jucatosebastianhooker: that is absolutely 103:41
sebastianhookerhaha03:41
unnamedunly in the last release of repository03:41
DhraakellianJucato: oh... here's a possibility... I might have had a 71xx driver installed due to that being a known working one way back when my dad had this card in his mandriva box03:41
sebastianhookerwell, shit.03:41
sebastianhookeri need a search engine for real life03:41
sebastianhookerwhere are my socks?03:42
JucatoDhraakellian: probably because it was the latest driver back then :P03:42
Dhraakellianthis was before gentoo got the split packages for nvidia drivers03:42
unnamedfeisty03:42
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sebastianhookerdoesn't kubuntu use java?03:42
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sebastianhookercause java works on all OSs?03:42
sebastianhookercause saying that java is great because it works on all OSs is saying like anal sex is great because it works on all genders03:42
Jucatosebastianhooker: use java in what way? an OS just doesn't "use" java03:43
Jucatoer...03:43
hikaricorejava works equally as well in all OSes03:43
Jucato!language | sebastianhooker03:43
ubotusebastianhooker: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:43
hikaricoreslowly..03:43
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Dhraakelliansebastianhooker: you know, I *really* didn't need that imagery03:43
sebastianhooker!language | Jucato03:43
ubotuJucato: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:43
Daisuke_Idobash stealer!03:43
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unnamedsquarepants!03:45
Dhraakellianoy...03:46
IAmWill!nvidia03:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:46
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DhraakellianIAmWill: heh... as far as GUI instructions go, the 7.04 section of that (well, the nvidia subpage to which it links) is fairly useless without Gnome03:47
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Dhraakellianwhich means that you need to check the list yourself03:47
Dhraakellianand my fingers still think that the command for installing packages is "emerge"03:48
soulridersebastianhooker: some people hate java. i dont know why. I personally like it a lot03:48
IAmWillDhraakellian, i just noticed03:48
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soulriderlol03:48
soulridergentoo was way too complicated for me03:48
soulrideri just dont ahve the time to read all the docs03:48
soulriderand compile stuff 100 times03:48
Dhraakelliansoulrider: it's not *too* bad03:48
IAmWillDhraakellian, once again.. i suffer from the gentoo syndrome  =)03:48
Dhraakellianbut, yeah, I decided to give kubuntu a try to see if it actually was easier and less bother03:49
IAmWillDhraakellian, it is as if, gentoo was easier to get video working....03:49
Dhraakellianmy decision so far: a little yes, a little no03:49
IAmWillsamehere03:49
soulriderDhraakellian: i use arch at the moment, but the ubuntu community is the best03:49
Jucato*cough* offtopic *cough*03:49
DhraakellianI might try vanilla Debian sometime03:49
IAmWillwhat holds me to kubuntu is the dreadful reinstall of gentoo03:49
soulriderand kubuntu is great for all those new to linux03:49
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soulriderJucato: you still having issues with recursion? i could help you out a bit03:50
IAmWillokay, so.. how the hell do i get my drivers working in here?03:50
soulriderIAmWill: nvidia drivers ?03:50
IAmWillsoulrider, yeah03:50
Jucatosoulrider: I put it on the shelf a bit. focusing on more important stuff :)03:50
soulrideri think you need to install nvidia-glx03:50
soulriderand thern edit xorg to use the nvidia driver03:51
DhraakellianIAmWill: well, if it's a GeForce2 MX/MX 400, don't go with the legacy drivers03:51
Jucatosudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-generic03:51
Dhraakellian!;)03:51
IAmWillnot legacy03:51
Jucatosudo nvidia-xconfig03:51
Jucatothen restart X03:51
Jucatodone03:51
IAmWillsoulrider, i have that one installed, but it doesnt like me03:51
soulriderJucato: thats easier since i had to last do it03:51
IAmWillohh.. I was running Xorg -configutre03:51
soulriderwhat do you mean?03:51
Dhraakelliansudo nvidia-glx-config enable03:51
Dhraakellian?03:51
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JucatoDhraakellian: that doesn't really work for the newer drivers. sudo nvidia-xconfig is more reliable from what I've seen so far03:52
Jucatoand by newer, I mean no -legacy03:52
Jucatonot*03:52
DhraakellianJucato: ah, okay03:52
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DhraakellianJucato: and how about just going into the kcontrol module and choosing (*) Proprietary instead of ( ) Standard?03:53
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Jucatodunno. never trusted displayconfig since day 1 :)03:53
Jucatodisplayconfig = Kubuntu-only system settings/kcontrol module for Monitor & Display03:53
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DhraakellianJucato: yeah, I suspected the kubuntu-only part03:54
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DhraakellianJucato: how is it so bad and/or untrustworthy?03:54
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Jucatoit never worked for me. that's the only reason :)03:55
Jucatogo ahead and use it if it works for you :)03:55
Dhraakellianheh03:55
Dhraakellianstill backing up my xorg.conf first03:55
Dhraakellianif this works, however, I might have to go in and clear out a ton of backups03:56
Jucatowould be nice if it did that automatically too :)03:56
Dhraakellianit does back up the xorg.conf, but if I do it myself, I know exactly which backup it is that I want03:56
Dhraakellianokay, changed03:57
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ubuntuJucato gone?03:57
DhraakellianHere goes nothing!03:57
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DhraakellianW00WH0M!04:00
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Dhraakellianframerate in glxgears has just about tripled04:01
Dhraakellianactually... more than tripled04:01
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bonbonthejonhow do you show the frame rate for glxgears04:04
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DaSkreechglxgears -iacknowledgethatthisisnotabenchmark04:07
cWolfei really hate that the devs did that04:07
ardchoilleglxgears is not a benchmark. You can use it to show that DRI works, but it does not even test that well. There's glxinfo or your Xorg.0.log to tell you if DRI was enabled as well. And for the people who're wondering why CPU usage is 100%, while glxgears seems to be giving quite a lot of fps: yes, this is normal, because it tries to get the max number of frames per second. Checking CPU usage for glxgears is not a way to see if direct rendering w04:07
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ardchoillecrdlb: same04:08
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IAmWillwow, i think i just had the deciding factor for kubuntu vs gentoo04:11
ardchoillebtw, glxgears should print fps bydefault in Feisty.04:12
DaSkreechIAmWill: time to install KDE?04:12
IAmWilli rebooted to fix my video card, and upon reboot, I went to the grub menu and did the recovery, and it booted me into root with no password04:12
Jucatoand?04:13
ardchoilleThat's recovery mode, that's the way it works04:13
IAmWillstrait to root, in which i vi'ed my xorg.conf, and then rebooted.. not once did kubuntu ask for a root password... just gave me root priviligies04:13
DaSkreechJucato: dood!04:13
Jucatoer.. that's how it's supposed to work!!04:13
IAmWilli thought that linux was suppose to be secure.... .....04:14
Daisuke_Idoit's RECOVERY04:14
DaSkreechIAmWill: You can turn that off if you like04:14
Daisuke_Idothere is no root password by default, so it can't exactly ask for one04:14
IAmWillDaSkreech, i like to hear that04:14
ardchoilleIAmWill: If you want more security, you can remove the "recovery" options from the menu.lst file04:14
DaSkreechIAmWill: plus if someone is close enough to reboot your machine and select a kernel you are already screwed04:14
IAmWilli know that.... its just... weird04:14
IAmWilli am not used to that04:14
Daisuke_Idoyou ever use windows?04:15
IAmWillDaSkreech, this is true04:15
ardchoillelol04:15
Jucatoit's not weird. you just don't know how it's supposed to work04:15
IAmWillJucato, not kubuntu04:15
DaSkreechJucato: I think he knows how it's supposed to work he just likes false security "-)04:15
IAmWillcute  =)04:15
IAmWillohh yeah, and nvidia still isnt working04:16
ardchoilleCould it be that gentoo doesn't use the sudo model and therefore asks for a password for recovery mode?04:16
n8k99it's not security is not boolean04:16
IAmWilli switched the driver to nvidia, and it freezes my system... it only works under nv  =(04:16
Daisuke_Idon8k99: i'm going to pretend that sentence made sense.04:16
ardchoillelol04:16
n8k99Daisuke_Ido: good thing!04:16
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IAmWillardchoille, thats probably it... this is the first time i have used sudo... in kubuntu04:17
ardchoilleIAmWill: Ah, ok04:17
IAmWillardchoille, i am not a fan of sudo.. although i can see its benefits04:17
ardchoilleIAmWill: Can't brute force a root account when it's disabled ;)04:18
IAmWilli catch myself using sudo su more... its just easier to be root (imo)04:18
JucatoO.o04:18
Jucatosudo -i04:19
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Daisuke_Idoand less secure!  for someone concerned with security that sounds retardedly insecure :D04:19
draikIs it possible for me to have GNOME and KDE installed on Kubuntu? I want to have the option when I login04:19
ardchoilledraik: Yes, and you can run gnome apps in kde and vice versa04:19
ender_yes...just "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"04:19
antiroachdraik yes04:19
draikOk04:19
Daisuke_Idodraik: ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop04:19
ender_errr... use aptitude... that would be better I think04:20
Daisuke_Idoand xubuntu-desktop if you're feeling frisky04:20
IAmWilluhh.... dont you get dependency issues if you install both kde and gnome?04:20
Daisuke_Idoaptitude is a better idea.04:20
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Daisuke_IdoIAmWill: why would you?04:20
JucatoIAmWill: no04:20
IAmWillconflicting packages04:20
ardchoilleIAmWill: No, that's why you have a package manager, to resolve deps.04:20
ender_I am running kubuntu and mint linux with no issues04:20
JucatoIAmWill: why would there be conflicting packages?04:20
n8k99draik you may want to install a script from kde-apps.org that cleans up your kmenu automatically if you do all that installing04:20
Daisuke_Idogtk conflicts with qt how?04:20
draikn8k99: NOW you tell me04:20
Daisuke_Idohow could anything possibly conflict :D04:20
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DaSkreechIAmWill: what would conflict?04:21
IAmWillehh.... i dont knoe04:21
ardchoilleDaSkreech: I suppose when you compile and install manually, there can be conflicts.04:21
IAmWilli was always under the impression that they conflicted04:21
n8k99draik: seemed like a good time04:21
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DaSkreechIAmWill: Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaw04:21
IAmWillgentoo'ers hate that crap04:21
DaSkreechthat was Gnome pushing freedesktop standards and clouding the water04:22
Daisuke_Idokubuntu != gentoo04:22
IAmWillplus.... i have had the great cirle of dep's problems in gentoo with that crap04:22
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Daisuke_Idowe LOVE it :)04:22
draikWill I get any issues from what I have that seems to be "kubuntu only?04:22
n8k99IAmWill: only the people conflict04:22
ender_so what is xfce like compared to kde?  cleaner...less flashy, more?04:22
IAmWillnice04:22
Daisuke_Idominimalist, but functional04:22
GrueTamerxfce is less flashy than kde, takes up less resources, and the interface is a bit different04:23
DaSkreechender_: minimalist04:23
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ardchoilledraik: I doubt it. I was running gnome with kicker and windowmaker as my window manager.. until I wised up and switched to kubuntu04:23
Daisuke_Idothe default xubuntu setup is superficially similar to the default gnome setup04:23
ender_I have more than enough resources...I will stick with K then04:23
Daisuke_Idoas far as how it looks04:23
draikardchoille: I want to have the option, that's all04:23
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ardchoilledraik: I was surprised at how well gnome and kde "played together"04:24
Daisuke_Idothey play well together by never touching04:24
ardchoillehehe04:24
DaSkreechardchoille: try and get Windows XP and 98 to play that well :)04:24
Daisuke_Idowhenever one's on the playground, the other is inside eating glue04:24
draikardchoille: I hope so. But will I get any conflict from what I have on my desktop? I found a few apps that are only GNOME supported. What will happen when I run KDE?04:24
Daisuke_Idoi'll leave which is which as an excercise for the reader04:24
draikDaisuke_Ido: HAHA.. I like that analogy04:25
Daisuke_Idodraik: they'll run fine04:25
ender_draik: your gnome libs will still take over04:25
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Dhraakellianhmm...04:25
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Dhraakelliannexuiz 2.3 was just released at the end of last month04:25
ender_in the repos?04:25
draikUmmm....04:25
draikWhat do I want for the Display Manager? GDM or KDM?04:25
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Dhraakellianfor one not familiar with Kubuntu's packaging policies, can we expect to see it in repos before Gutsy?04:26
draikFor the default that is04:26
soulriderdraik: kdm i guess04:26
Jucatodraik: KDM if you use KDE more than GNOME04:26
DaSkreechdraik: whichever you think is prettier04:26
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draikI shall reserve my choice for the sake of stopping a flame war04:26
ender_or blind choice.. you can change the manager at the login window by selecting the sessions option04:26
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DaSkreechgranted the KDM flows nicely with KDE and GDM doesn't flow nicely with GNOME04:26
Dhraakellianif anyone knows a display manager that lets you switch keyboard layouts at runtime, please let me know04:26
hiyahhi, my /var/log/mysql.log is about 900mb now its taking up my "/" space, how do i make it gzipped by itself?04:26
Jucatodraik: actually the choice between KDM or GDM is more technical04:27
draikJucato: How so?04:27
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JucatoDaSkreech: you mind revising your sentence? :)04:27
DhraakellianDaSkreech: either will work fine with the other04:27
Jucatodraik: KDM works perfectly with KDE, but not as well with GNOME. GDM works perfectly with GNOME, but not as well with KDE. so it really depends on which you use more04:27
JucatoDhraakellian: well not entirely true, specially on feisty. KDM + GNOME will not let you restart/shutdown from GNOME, only logout04:28
draikWhat if I decide to go from KDE to GNOME... can I switch from KDM to GDM?04:28
Dhraakellianaah04:28
DaSkreechI meant that you can get KDM + splash + KDE desktop to be seemless04:28
Daisuke_Idoi think that works both ways too04:28
Dhraakellianokay, I sit corrected04:28
Jucatoalso, I think that GDM + KDE will not let you start new user sessions04:28
DaSkreechI've never seen GDM + Spalsh + Gnome not have kind of jarring cuts between them04:28
Jucatodraik: um. you choose a GNOME or KDE session from the login screen04:28
ardchoilledraik: Yes, simply log out and choose gnome at the login screen04:28
Dhraakellianbut yeah, if I heard that GDM implemented the feature I mentioned above, I'd switch in a heartbeat04:28
draikJucato: ardchoille: Ok, so it will choose automatically. Am I correct with this statement?04:29
ardchoilledraik: I believe it's in the options menu on the login screen04:29
ardchoilledraik: It will automatically choose the last session, you need to choose the one you want.04:29
Jucatodraik: yes. from the login screen menu04:29
draikardchoille: Right.04:29
DaSkreechdraik: I think by default both of them loginto the last desktop you were using when you logged out04:29
draikJucato: That's what I meant. Thank you.04:29
Dhraakellianalthough not being able to switch sessions or have two gui logins simultaneously might be troublesome, it would mean that, in an emergency, other people could still log into my computer too, since they wouldn't have to worry about my silly dvorak keyboard layout04:29
DaSkreech You can switch that to anyother desktop you want at login time04:30
draikCTRL+ALT+Backspace works on both Kubuntu and Ubuntu, right?04:30
Dhraakelliandraik: I don't see why it wouldn't04:30
Jucatodraik: yes. because it's an X shortcut04:30
ardchoilledraik: Yes, that's an xorg thing04:30
Jucatonot a KDE or GNOME shortcut04:30
Dhraakellianit's an X11 thing rather than a DE-specific thing04:30
draikDhraakellian: Jucato: ardchoille: Perfect. Thank you04:30
draikI guess I'm looking at GNOME and KDE as two different "OS"'s04:31
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DaSkreechis alt+ctrl+Esc DE specific04:31
Daisuke_Idowhat's nexuiz?04:31
DaSkreechdraik: Well then stop :)04:32
JucatoDaSkreech: yep04:32
DaSkreech!info nexuiz04:32
ubotunexuiz: A fast-paced 3D Ego-Shooter. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.3-1 (feisty), package size 593 kB, installed size 1488 kB04:32
draikDaSkreech: I guess I will :)04:32
DaSkreechDaisuke_Ido: double underline fast paced04:32
DhraakellianDaisuke_Ido: it's a F/OSS FPS descended from teh original Quake04:32
Dhraakellianwell, it uses the Darkplaces engine, at least, and that's descended from the original Quake04:32
Dhraakellianhttp://alientrap.org/ 2.3 was just released a week or two ago04:33
CPrgmSwR2How do you setup Kubuntu to rip to mp3?04:33
Daisuke_IdoCPrgmSwR2: kaudiocreator04:33
Dhraakellian!mp304:33
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:33
Daisuke_Ido+ lame04:33
CPrgmSwR2thats right04:33
CPrgmSwR2I need to install lame04:34
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draikWhat is evolution?04:34
Dhraakelliandraik: email, calendar, etc04:34
Dhraakellianto quote my father, "what outlook should have been"04:34
draikDhraakellian: Thank you04:34
DaSkreech!info evolution04:34
ubotuevolution: groupware suite with mail client and organizer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2478 kB, installed size 7704 kB04:34
Dhraakellian(non verbatim)04:34
DaSkreechDhraakellian: What does he base that on?04:35
Daisuke_IdoDhraakellian: i've heard about rubyripper, but the rubyforge project doesn't exist anymore04:35
DhraakellianDaisuke_Ido: just a sec04:35
Dhraakellianhttp://code.google.com/p/rubyripper/04:35
jovihi,everybaby,  i ask a quest?   KUBUNTU  would  use taobao_net  wangwang of china?????04:35
draikOk. It's done.04:35
Dhraakellianiirc, the version in the repos is out of date04:35
draikBRB... under GNOME04:35
Dhraakellian.4 has been out for a while04:35
Dhraakellian!info rubyripper04:35
ubotuPackage rubyripper does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:35
Daisuke_Idooh sweet mother of $DEITY04:36
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jovihow to used?04:36
Jucatojovi: try asking in #ubuntu-cn04:36
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Dhraakellianhmm... must have gotten it from another repo04:36
Aresilekhow do i change file associations in kubuntu?04:36
joviJucato : thanks04:36
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JucatoAresilek: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror04:36
Dhraakellianbut, yeah, Rubyripper probably isn't anywhere near the quality of EAC or dbpoweramp if you really care about such things04:37
Aresilekthx Jucato04:37
Daisuke_Idoit looks better than kaudiocreator04:38
Daisuke_Idoand i do care about such things04:38
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Daisuke_Idooink gets upset if i don't :\04:38
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Dhraakellianhowever, if EAC doesn't want to cooperate with your Wine setup or if you don't like using gratis-only software, Rubyripper probably does better ripping than other cdparanoia frontends04:38
Daisuke_Idogranted the gui is friggin ugly, but meh04:38
Jucaton8k99: hush :P04:38
DhraakellianDaisuke_Ido: yeah, I was trying not to mention OPP04:38
Dhraakellian!;)04:38
jovii used English vesion , don't input chinese ? how to??04:38
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Daisuke_Idoah ha04:39
Daisuke_Idoso far i've had no problems with any of my submissions to OPP04:39
Dhraakellianwoah, wait, what?04:40
Dhraakellianwhy the feisty am I only running at 54Hz?04:40
Daisuke_Idomine says that too04:40
Daisuke_Idoi do believe it's actually 60hz04:40
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Dhraakellianno, it's just that I know for a fact that this monitor is capable of a heckuva lot more than that04:40
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Dhraakellianardchoille: "heck of a"04:41
ardchoillehehe04:41
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n8k99heckuva >= a whole bunch04:41
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BluesKajDhraakellian, have you checked out the system settings for your graphics card ?04:42
JucatoDhraakellian: LCD monitor?04:42
DhraakellianJucato: IBM 6557 P9204:42
Dhraakellian19" behemoth CRT04:42
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Jucatoaah.. if you have an OSD that displays the Info for your monitor, trust that more than the control module :)04:43
BiovoreoO04:43
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Dhraakellianah, okay, here we go04:43
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evsophomore2009Can someone help me!!!!!!!!!04:43
Dhraakelliannow it's showing me 75Hz as an option04:43
Jucatoalthough in this instance, i trust display config more than kde's built in display module :)04:44
n8k99evsophomore2009: ask your question04:44
Jucatoer "displayconfig"04:44
Jucato!someone | evsophomore200904:44
ubotuevsophomore2009: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?04:44
evsophomore2009okay so im trying to download Sun Java 5. and for some reason, it wont go past 4%04:44
Biovorethis though apt?04:44
evsophomore2009every time i try to download somthing on Adept Manager, it will NEVER finish downloading04:44
n8k99you need to look in the details and approve the liscense04:45
Biovoresun java is probably not making it because its prompting for a license..04:45
shiers69When i try to install from a live cd (kubuntu 7.04) while only having my blank scsi disk installed i receive the "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" error, is there a fix for this yet?04:45
Dhraakellianhmm... but only in admin mode04:45
evsophomore2009so how do i stop the download?04:45
n8k99is it still downloading now?04:45
Biovoreevsophomore2009: try installing sun java from the command line using "sudo apt-get install <package_name>04:45
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BluesKajevsophomore2009, you have to check the details and say yes to the agrements with java DLs04:46
evsophomore2009theres no option to stop it, and when i close out of it, it wont let me load Apept because "another file is installing" but i cant open it04:46
BluesKajagreements04:46
draikMy question now is... How do I remove the ugly orange color stuff on Ubuntu?04:46
n8k99evsophomore2009: sudo dpkg --configure -a04:46
shiers69draik: install a theme04:46
n8k99that will let teh package manager finish up04:46
BluesKajyup04:47
Dhraakellianokay, I'm going to try restarting X again04:47
ardchoilledraik: Change the theme. iirc, it's System -> Personal -> Theme or something04:47
evsophomore2009n8k99: sudo apt-get install <package_name>04:47
draikardchoille: Thank you. Beat me to my question.04:47
ardchoilleYou're welcome :)04:47
evsophomore2009n8k99: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process04:47
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Biovorehmm adept running or apt process of some kind?04:47
draikardchoille: Well, that crashed out04:47
ardchoilledraik: You in kde right now?04:48
draikardchoille: Nope. GNOME04:48
Jucatodraik: change your GNOME theme04:48
evsophomore2009well Adept is running right now, but if i close the Installation, i wont ever be able to get back into Adept04:48
draikJucato: It crashed04:48
BluesKajevsophomore2009, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a04:48
JucatoSystem -> Personal -> Theme04:48
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Jucatodraik: dunno why it would crash04:49
ardchoilledraik: Try asking in #ubuntu, they can give you better advice than I.04:49
BiovoreIf 1000/400 = 4 then computer geek you be04:49
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BluesKajevsophomore2009, you can only run one pkg manager scrn at a time04:49
DaSkreech!adept crash fix | evsophomore200904:49
ubotuevsophomore2009: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:49
evsophomore2009Okay so i want to run Frostwire04:50
evsophomore2009it says i need Java 1.5x04:50
evsophomore2009how do i get that?04:50
n8k99!java04:51
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.04:51
BluesKajevsophomore2009, have you unlocked the pkg manager ?, if not you can't install anything until you do04:51
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evsophomore2009yes its unlocked04:51
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louis_anybody know how to turn off those annoying sounds when you open and close a window?04:52
draikWell, I'm not bad mouthing one or the other, but I can see why people would choose KDE over GNOME04:52
shiers69"/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"  <--Anyone know wtf that's about?04:52
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n8k99louis_: system settings > notifications04:52
evsophomore2009n8k99: Can you help me install java without using Adept04:52
BluesKajlouis , system settings / notifications/ turn off all sounds/apply04:53
evsophomore2009Because im using Kubuntu Edgy (6.10)04:53
Biovoreevsophomore2009: once you get the apt thing unlocked.. do the following04:53
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Biovoresudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-fonts04:53
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evsophomore2009Biovore: it says i cant use Adept to install java on Kubuntu Edgy04:53
jrattnerQuestion: I'm trying to connect to my laptop via bluetooth (Ubuntu 7.04) and its asking me for the Passkey....What is the passkey?04:53
jrattner?04:53
DaSkreechdraik: less letters to type?04:53
Biovoreevsophomore2009: yes.. use the command line interface and type that command in..04:53
draikDaSkreech: That too!04:53
evsophomore2009E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:53
evsophomore2009E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?04:53
DaSkreechBiovore: he needs backports turned on04:53
Biovoreadept running?04:54
louis_n8k99, thanks04:54
Biovoreis he running edgy or older?04:54
n8k99louis_: your welcome04:54
louis_well that takes care of that!04:54
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ardchoilleevsophomore2009: ps aux | grep adept    <- does that return more than one line?04:54
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louis_!beryl04:55
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:55
evsophomore2009Reading package lists... Done04:55
evsophomore2009Building dependency tree04:55
evsophomore2009Reading state information... Done04:55
evsophomore2009E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-bin04:55
DaSkreechBiovore: Edgy04:55
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Biovoreoh..04:55
Biovoreyeah.. have to enable backports then..04:55
evsophomore2009whats that?04:55
BluesKajevsophomore2009, your pkg manager is still locked up ...you have run the " sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a "  command and relogin04:55
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ardchoille!repos04:55
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ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:55
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BluesKajanyway , it's sacktime for me04:56
BluesKajnite all04:56
ardchoillenn BlueDevil04:57
ardchoilleOpps, tab completion bit me04:57
DaSkreechha ha I have to call him BlueDevil next time he logs in04:57
rodrigo#translator04:57
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rodrigo#list04:58
war8hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii04:58
draikHow do I find out my KDE version? Does it apply when I'm in GNOME?04:58
Jucatodraik: "kde-config --version"04:58
n8k99draik: or in any menu > help> about kde04:58
Jucaton8k99: 2nd part of the question :)04:59
Jucatodraik: stop thinking of KDE and GNOME as different OS's and start thinking of them as programs. it will help you not get confused :)04:59
draik3.5.604:59
n8k99oh yeah-04:59
shiers69"/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"  <--Anyone know wtf that's about? happens when booting from the livecd.04:59
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evsophomore2009n8k99: Now my Adept Manager wont open!!105:00
Jucaton8k99: heh me too :)05:00
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: lets try and fix the java problem first05:00
Jucatoevsophomore2009: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"05:00
n8k99did you login back in?05:00
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evsophomore2009DaSkreech: Okay im on Adept, and im on the Manage Resp. Now what?05:01
louis_hey, can somebody explain the difference between a desktop environment and a windows manager?05:01
rodrigoguys one doubt05:02
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: look for a set of lines that says backports05:02
louis_fluxbox is a WM and KDE is a DE right?05:02
DaSkreechlouis_: right05:02
rodrigocan I have kubuntu and ubuntu at the same time?05:02
DaSkreechrodrigo: good time to ask that question05:02
DaSkreechdraik: want to take that one?05:02
ardchoilleshiers69: I don't know how to solve that, but here are some links to maybe help: http://tinyurl.com/2jrdto05:02
rodrigohey dask what's up my man!05:02
rodrigodaskreech05:02
evsophomore2009DaSkreech: A set of lines that says Backports? Cant find it05:02
DaSkreechhey rodrigo :)05:02
shiers69archoille: i've been looking all day w/ no avail05:02
draikDaSkreech: What to take what?05:02
draikrodrigo: DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:03
evsophomore2009daskreech: Found it, it says05:03
DaSkreechdraik: the question can you have Kubuntu and ubuntu at the same time05:03
rodrigodaskreech what?05:03
draikrodrigo: I mean, sure. I don't see why not05:03
evsophomore2009Edgy-Backports Main Restricted05:03
Daisuke_Idorodrigo: it works just fine :)05:03
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: yes. Enables that05:03
draikrodrigo: I just did it not too long about... about 10-15 mintues ago05:03
evsophomore2009both05:03
evsophomore2009?05:03
DaSkreechJucato: java is in restricted ?05:03
rodrigodraik: do what?05:04
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JucatoDaSkreech: multiverse05:04
DaSkreechJucato: blast05:04
draikrodrigo: Ubuntu and Kubuntu at the same time05:04
draikI'm on Ubuntu right now.05:04
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: do you see a backports with multiverse?05:04
draikI was on Kubuntu about 15 minutes ago05:04
JucatoDaSkreech: which is enabled by default in feisty.05:04
evsophomore2009yes there are two05:04
DaSkreechJucato: edgy05:04
rodrigodraik:  ahh  and it't bad or something?05:04
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evsophomore2009one is Deb, and the other is Deb-Src05:04
Jucatoah I see05:04
n8k99Jucato: he's not on feist05:04
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: ok enable the backports wiith multiverse05:04
n8k99y05:04
Jucaton8k99: <Jucato> ah I see05:05
evsophomore2009Daskreech: Done05:05
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: you don't need the deb-src one05:05
DaSkreechdoesn't hurt05:05
rodrigohey daskreech: I have an  easy duck for you now05:05
DaSkreechbut you don't need it05:05
draikrodrigo: I'm getting frustrated with Ubuntu right now, that's all. It's worth doing. If for nothing else, just to say you did it05:05
evsophomore2009kk done05:05
JucatoDaSkreech: it does hurt if he doesn't need it. makes apt-get update longer05:05
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: save and fetch updates05:05
joviask question?   how to input chinese in  ubuntu  ???05:05
evsophomore2009okay brb REAL quick05:05
Jucato!scim05:05
ubotuChinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM05:05
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Jucatojovi: ^^^^^05:05
DaSkreechJucato: I know but how big can deb-src for multiverse be? :-) by definition it's not open source05:05
rodrigotalking me about frustration: My scan doesn't work with linux, I see a cool graphic tablet that doens't have linux drivers05:06
rodrigoI have tried to install a program too long05:06
JucatoDaSkreech: it can be quite big. and you have a wrong definition of multiverse05:06
rodrigocinelerra05:06
rodrigofor too long05:06
Jucatoor rather, an incomplete one05:06
n8k99rodrigo: scanner or pen tablet input05:06
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rodrigoboth05:06
DaSkreechJucato: I guess I do then05:06
JucatoDaSkreech: mplayer is definitely open source, but it's in multiverse05:07
DaSkreechPh Jucato do you know anything about segmentation core dumps?05:07
rodrigoI do really must talk with the linux art people05:07
JucatoDaSkreech: Ph no...05:07
rodrigothey had abandon us05:07
DaSkreechrodrigo: try #oxygen or #plasma05:07
Jucato?05:07
DaSkreechrodrigo: or art4linux.org05:07
Jucatowhat does plasma have to do with it?05:07
DaSkreechhttp://art4linux.org05:07
Jucatoor oxygen even?05:07
DaSkreechJucato: art dudes hang there05:08
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evsophomore2009daskreech: Back05:08
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DaSkreechhe's been trying to get cinelerra to install from like last week05:08
DaSkreechIt's installed now but segfaults05:08
draikI feel sorry for all the little kids outside playing with their parents05:08
Jucato<rodrigo> talking me about frustration: My scan doesn't work with linux, I see a cool graphic tablet that doens't have linux drivers05:08
n8k99oh yikes05:08
rodrigoyea05:08
DaSkreechHe gave up on cinelerra05:08
rodrigono no no05:09
rodrigoI haven't give up my dear friend05:09
rodrigojust step by step05:09
DaSkreechnow he wants to get his lexmark scanner/printer working05:09
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: great05:09
draikI'm about to scream some obscene words about Ubuntu's GDM  theme crap... I can't do jack with it05:09
sebastianhookerhey, uhh, question05:09
n8k99lexmark?!!105:09
DaSkreechdraik: KDE's themes are worse05:09
rodrigoyep one all in one05:09
DaSkreech!ask sebastianhooker05:09
Jucatodraik: hm?05:09
DaSkreech!ask | sebastianhooker05:09
ubotusebastianhooker: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:09
sebastianhookerif you went camping with your friend and got really really drunk, woke up the next morning with a condom in your ass, would you tell anyone?05:10
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Jucato!offtopic | sebastianhooker05:10
ubotusebastianhooker: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:10
DaSkreechrodrigo: do you still have the URL for the pastebin ?05:10
rodrigohey daskreech what are the topic of oxygen and plasma?05:10
draikDaSkreech: I can't do anything with the Theme Manager in Ubuntu. It freezes up05:10
rodrigonope05:10
n8k99!language | sebastianhooker05:10
ubotusebastianhooker: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:10
rodrigosend it please bro05:10
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sebastianhookerrodrigo: you wouldn't tell anyone?05:10
draikJucato: I can't do anything. Theme Manager in Ubuntu keeps freezing. I can't select the damn thing I downloaded for the new Theme I want to use05:10
DaSkreechsebastianhooker: please stay on topic05:10
DaSkreechdraik: filea bug :)05:10
sebastianhookerDaSkreech: would you tell anyone?05:11
DaSkreech!paste05:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:11
draikThat's what it keeps telling me to do05:11
draikScrew it05:11
sebastianhooker!language | draik05:11
ubotudraik: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:11
DaSkreechJucato: devoice or kick please05:11
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draiksebastianhooker: You want to talk about watching my language? Take a look at your nick05:11
Daisuke_Idosebastianhooker: thanks for continuing to rip off bash.05:11
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n8k99draik: easy05:12
sebastianhookerdraik: i can't change my last name douchebag05:12
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ardchoilledraik: You can set the theme from the command line.. it's via the gconftool-205:12
draikThank you Jucato05:12
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DaSkreechrodrigo: run cinelerra from the command line again and paste the error05:12
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draikardchoille: Would you know the complete command?05:13
draikUbuntu is really of hardly any help05:13
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ardchoilledraik: I haven't used gnome in a while, but the command is something like:  gconftool-2 --set string /path/to/key    you'll have to look up the exact suntax in man gconftool-205:14
draikThank you05:14
DaSkreechn8k99: yes lexmark05:16
Daisuke_Idolexmark.  ancient greek for "satan"05:16
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DaSkreechWhich is ancient celtic for compaq05:16
Daisuke_Idohmm, my translation must be off, i got "Packard Bell"05:17
DaSkreech6 of one 1/2 dozen of the other05:17
Daisuke_Idotrue, true05:18
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draikardchoille: gconftool-2 --install-schema-file=FILENAME05:19
wsjuniorwhat's the package that contains c libraries manpages?05:19
Rictoo_How do I see what partitions I have form shell?05:19
draikardchoille: What do I put in for a file name?05:19
n8k99good luck with that $PRINTER_FROM_THE_FIERY_PIT05:19
DaSkreechRictoo_: df I think05:19
ardchoilledraik: I haven't used that in a while, can't remember the exact commands :(05:20
DaSkreechRictoo_: or you could ls /dev/hd* /dev/sd*05:20
TheCreationistMy friend and I are trying to connect our PCs with Krdc and Krfb, but she's behind a router so the invitation doesn't seem to work.  How can I connect to her computer when she has a router?05:20
draikardchoille: It's ok. I thank you for your time and patience with me.05:20
ardchoille:)05:20
draikTime to do the unthinkable... ask Ubuntu05:20
ardchoilledraik: An easier way to install that theme is to simply unpack it into ~/.themes05:21
n8k99TheCreationist: she needs to forward the router table to allow vnc to go to Port:10005:21
draikardchoille: That works for me!05:21
TheCreationistn8k99: You wouldn't happen to know how we do that, do you?05:21
n8k99TheCreationist: sorry not port 100 but the ifconfig ip address she is at05:21
ardchoilledraik: Then you can: gconftool-2 --type string --set /path/to/key "theme name"   but you'll have to figure out the path to key bit05:21
namolTheCreationist, port 5900 actually05:22
ardchoilledraik: There's an example of that in man gconftool-205:22
namolis vnc05:22
draikardchoille: What is the key?05:22
TheCreationistnamol: How does she set her router up to allow that?05:22
n8k99TheCreationist: shen needs to configure her router (usually @ 192.168.1.100)05:22
namolTheCreationist, she needs to configure port forwarding on her router05:22
Rictoo_How do I see my physical drives and where the partitions are located on them from shell?05:23
namolalso, what ip address are you trying to connect too?05:23
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war8yui05:23
DaSkreechRictoo_: what do you need to know?05:23
ardchoilledraik: Open gconf-editor and look in the /apps key to find the theme.. I think it's /apps/gnome/desktop/theme or something like that. That tree in gconf-editor is the same as the /path/to/key (you'll see it in the bottom left of the status bar in gconf-editor)05:23
TheCreationistnamol: Her invitation is sending me to an IP address 192.168.11.205:23
namolif it's an internal ip address, ie the 192.168.x.x schema05:23
DaSkreechhi war805:23
TheCreationistnamol: But that's internal, isn't it?05:23
namolTheCreationist, that's an internal ip, you need the external ip05:24
TheCreationistnamol: How would she find that?05:24
namolyou'll need to find out her external ip05:24
n8k99http://whatsmyip.com05:24
ardchoilledraik: btw, you can use gconftool-2 to set almost everything in gnome (ie icon theme, window manager theme, control theme, desktop wallpaper, etc)05:24
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namolhave her go to http://www.acction.com/~plowther/ip.php05:24
namolthat'll tell her the external ip address05:25
draikardchoille: I hope all of this works05:25
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namolor n8k99's website works too05:25
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wsjunioris there any package that provide manpages for c libraries?05:25
TheCreationistnamol: Okay, she found her external IP... now what?05:26
ardchoilledraik: Also, have a look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/   <- that's one of the best sites for Ubuntu05:26
namolconnect to that external ip, what happens?05:26
TheCreationistnamol: Same thing... nothing.05:26
n8k99TheCreationist: you need to send krdc to her vnc://external ip05:26
TheCreationistnamol: Connection eventually fails.05:26
DaSkreechwsjunior: I'd assume libcsomething05:27
DaSkreechRictoo_: ping05:27
namolTheCreationist, does she have admin permissions on the router?05:27
n8k99TheCreationist: she still needs to forward her router to allow vnc to go to her machine05:27
TheCreationistnamol: I'm sure she does.05:27
namolhave her go to 192.168.11.1 in her web browser05:27
wsjuniorDaSkreech: tried glibc-doc but didnt work05:28
DaSkreechWhat does that install?05:28
n8k99TheCreationist:  or 192.168.1.105:29
namoln8k99, her invite she sent was 192.168.11.205:29
namolso if it's the standard subnet, it's going to be 192.168.11.1 as the gateway05:29
TheCreationistnamol: I've seen her router and it mentions the IP address for the actualy router as 192.168.11.105:29
n8k99namol: right-05:29
TheCreationistnamol: Okay, she's wondering why her password doesn't work.  Is it the same as the WEP for her network?05:30
namolTheCreationist, no05:30
namolwhat type of router is it?05:30
namoldid she ever reset the default admin password?05:30
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wsjuniorDaSkreech: just html files05:31
wsjuniori would like to have man math.h working05:31
DaSkreechwsjunior: wait. You want a man file for the libs?05:31
wsjunioror something similar05:31
ardchoilledraik: You still working on it? I found some new info05:31
Jucatoc libraries/headers05:31
wsjuniorgot it?05:31
wsjuniorya05:31
ardchoilledraik: What's the theme name?05:31
TheCreationistnamol: I hope she changed the default... she's trying right now ;)05:31
draikardchoille: Where do I find my trash can?05:31
wsjuniorwhats the package for the c libs/headers manpages Jucato?05:31
Jucatodraik: in GNOME? it's ~/.Trash05:32
ardchoilledraik: To set the theme using conftool-2: gconftool-2 --type string --set /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme "theme-name"05:32
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namolTheCreationist, it's no big deal if she didn't, by default the remote admin feature is disable on most soho routers05:32
Jucatowsjunior: searching...05:32
TheCreationistnamol: She said she doesn't remember the password, but knows the user name is root.  The router is a "Buffalo Air Station"05:32
wsjuniorJucato: already tried glibc-doc.. its not what im looking for..05:33
Jucato!info manpages-dev05:34
ubotumanpages-dev: Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development. In component main, is optional. Version 2.39-1 (feisty), package size 1185 kB, installed size 2916 kB05:34
Jucatotry that wsjunior ^^05:34
Jucatoer wait...05:34
namolTheCreationist, tell her to try root with no password05:34
namolsee if that works05:34
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TheCreationistnamol: Never mind... she figured it out.  Had to do with the middle green light at the top right of her keyboard ;)05:35
namolthe caps lock?05:35
Jucatowsjunior: try manpages-dev or try using info instead of man.05:35
TheCreationistnamol: yep05:35
namollol05:35
namolok05:35
TheCreationistnamol: :)05:35
DaSkreechwsjunior: are you sure what you are looking for exists?05:35
TheCreationistnamol: So she's into the config now.05:35
namolnow have her look for some sort of applications tab05:35
namolthere should be some form of port forwarding in there05:35
wsjuniorDaSkreech: im sure it exists for freebsd05:36
wsjuniornot for linux..05:36
evsophomore2009DaSckreech: Thanks for helpin me, i got Frostwire to work =D05:36
wsjuniorJucato: wrong package dude05:36
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: great :)05:36
evsophomore2009g2g Peace05:36
TheCreationistnamol: She sees "port mapping for internet games"05:36
wsjuniorDaSkreech: something like this: http://threads.seas.gwu.edu/cgi-bin/man2web?program=math&section=305:36
JucatoDaSkreech: it does exist iirc. just looking for the correct package05:37
DaSkreechokie :)05:38
wsjuniorfreebsd-manpages, Jucato?05:38
Jucatowsjunior: of course not that05:38
namollet me look on buffalo's website05:39
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TheCreationistnamol: Yeah, she doesn't see anything about port forwarding.05:40
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Jucatowsjunior: manpages-dev does it for me. at least for C (not C++)05:41
wsjuniornot for me05:42
Jucatohow are you checking? "man printf" works here05:42
wsjuniorwhat about man math or math.h05:42
Jucato"man stdio" too05:42
n8k99TheCreationist: maybe something says Applications and Gaming05:42
wsjuniordoes it works for u?05:42
wsjuniornot for me05:42
Jucatonot math05:42
wsjuniorso its not what im looking for05:42
wsjunior:)05:42
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wsjuniorgoing back to freebsd :-p05:43
Jucatoum... just because it doesn't have math.h doesn't mean it's not for the C headers/libraries. because stdio, string, printf, etc are definitely there05:43
Jucatosheesh! talk about patience05:44
n8k99Jucato: is "patience" ontopif?05:44
DaSkreechJucato: he wants man pages for all the C headers?05:45
n8k99s/on topic/ontopif05:45
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DaSkreechI've never heard of that05:45
DaSkreechmy ls /usr/share/man/man3 is anemic05:45
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DaSkreechOooh Oooh is it me? Do I get flowers?05:48
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n8k99no way- it's me - i know it's me this time05:50
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DaSkreechMurderer!!!05:50
DaSkreechAfter all he did for the community!!!05:50
n8k99not a baby tux!!05:50
Jucatocruelty to animals05:50
n8k99shish!05:51
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TheCreationistnamol: Any luck?05:51
namolnope05:51
namollook under applications05:51
namoland look for some advanced settings05:51
n8k99namol it may just be a table05:52
namolcould bed05:53
namolbe05:53
TheCreationistnamol: She said there's no "Applications" section, but she's been looking under advanced settings with no luck.05:53
namoli use openwrt on mine05:53
namolthere's no applications tab or anything?05:53
n8k99there was an internet gamings tab right?05:53
namolwhat about a network tab05:53
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Messitosomebody help me please05:54
DaSkreechMessito: sure05:54
namolMessito, did that help?05:55
TheCreationistnamol: This is what she said she has:    network config : route info NAT   IP filter   Intrusion Detector   UPnP05:55
MessitoDaSkreech thanx05:55
MessitoThe utility unrar is not in your PATH.05:55
MessitoPlease install it or contact your system administrator.05:55
DaSkreech!unrar05:55
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free05:55
DaSkreechThere you go05:55
namolsudo apt-get install unrar05:55
namolsudo apt-get install rar05:55
TheCreationistnamol: And "internet games: Port translation configuration"05:56
namolfrom the console05:56
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namolTheCreationist, have her go to that05:56
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Messitonamol which one the first or the second?05:56
namolMessito, both05:56
n8k99TheCreationist: internet game!!!05:56
MessitooK05:56
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mike_Is anyone in here famillar with Frostwire?05:57
TheCreationistmike_: I am.05:57
TheCreationistmike_: What do you need?05:57
mike_cam you tell me if its possible to exit out of it, without it actuilly ending the app05:58
mike_like, i want it to go down to the system tray05:58
TheCreationistmike_: Keep it in the tray?  I haven't been able to find that setting either.05:58
mike_but when i click on the X is closes out05:58
mike_dang05:58
DaSkreechIt's there05:58
mike_because its kinda annoying to keep it up05:58
DaSkreechWhen I installed it it asked me the first time05:58
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DaSkreech so it has the pref05:58
mike_hmm05:58
mike_TheCreationist: is it possible to get itunes?>05:59
solid_liqanyone know why, when I try to print in feisty, cups gives me the error: request entity too large?05:59
TheCreationistmike_: Ew.  Why would you want it?05:59
mike_well i need to put music on my iPod05:59
mike_i know, i cant stand it either05:59
mike_and idk how to get music on my iPod without it05:59
n8k99doesn't amarok detect your ipod?06:00
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dogatemycomputer!ipod06:00
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod06:00
mike_okay hold on let me try06:01
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mike_n8k99: How do i open up my iPod on Amarok?06:03
Zeelot3khey guys, is there some way I can have scripts run before I login?06:03
DaSkreech!autorun06:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about autorun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:03
hikaricoreDevices on the bottom left?06:03
sfireZeelot3k: yes rc.local06:03
Zeelot3kwhat is that?06:04
n8k99mike_ there should be a tab called devices on teh left that provides and interface06:04
dogatemycomputerZeelot3k: you can have a script run at login..06:04
DaSkreechdogatemycomputer: before login06:04
sfireZeelot3k: /etc/rc.local06:04
sfireZeelot3k: its like a autoexec.bat file06:04
Zeelot3kthanks06:05
mike_it says no Mountable Medium Found06:05
n8k99dumbe question: is your ipod connected (physically)?06:05
mike_Yes06:05
mike_it shows up on my desktop06:06
mike_but not Amarok06:06
mike_oh nevermind06:06
mike_it found it i guess06:06
n8k99oh- how about that!06:06
dthackermy Dell Inspiron 5100 has been shutting down due to temperature.  Is there a montor I can install?  I'm on Kubuntu Fiesty?06:06
sfireget your other problems fixed mike_?06:06
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mike_sfire: Excuse me?06:07
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sfireweren't you here yesterday ?06:07
mike_no06:07
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sfireoh different person then06:08
flowingfireHello everybody.  How do I get network manager to stop starting on boot?  It's not in the .kde/autostart folder.... ???06:08
mike_lol sorry if i sounded rude, i was just kinda confused06:08
n8k99flowingfire: what are you going to use to connect to your network?06:08
flowingfireWhat do you mean?  I had to manually configure my essid through kcontrol to get it working to begin with.  Network manager is no help.06:09
DaSkreechmike_: we have had a lot of people logged in with that nick who promise to come back later06:09
DaSkreechit's a little confusing06:09
flowingfireMight network manager be okay anyway?06:09
n8k99are you on a laptop?06:10
flowingfireYes, indeed, u8k9906:10
DaSkreechthat's some nice dyslexia :)06:11
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=== n8k99 was stumped for heckuva time
Zeelot3kok another question, if I log into a linux box with putty and start sending a file with ftp, how can I make it so it doesn't stop if I close putty?06:11
mike_thats weird06:11
mike_Hey umm okay, so i have Amarok running, but i know this sounds stupid06:12
sfireZeelot3k: the screen command06:12
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mike_but i have songs saved on frostwire06:12
mike_how do i add it to my iPod?06:12
dthackerZeelot3k: use screen06:12
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flowingfireBut anyway: Is there another folder with autostart features?  I want to hunt down networkmanager and rid myself of it.06:12
DaSkreechZeelot3k: nohup06:12
sfireZeelot3k: with the screen command you can detach from a session and resume it later.. even if you disconnect the SSH session06:12
Zeelot3khmmm06:12
dthacker!skype06:12
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto06:12
DaSkreechZeelot3k: though screen is nicer. But more complex06:13
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sfireflowingfire: just un-install it?06:13
n8k99mike_: what folder does frostwire save your songs? add that to tyour collection in amarok06:13
mike_never mind, got it06:13
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flowingfiresfire: That would be too easy, lol.06:14
DaSkreechmike_: :-D06:14
flowingfire!anything06:14
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.06:14
TheCreationistnamol: I figured it out, by the way.06:14
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mike_So im happy that i decided to switch to Kubutnu06:14
sfireflowingfire: the only other way I know is to close it and end your session.. when you log back in it'll remember all the apps you had running and restart them06:15
flowingfiremike_ : Me too.  It's so much sexier than Windows XP ... bleh!06:15
sfirethat should (don't quote me) stop it from loading06:15
mike_I liked windows, but i wanted a change, and i was about to change back, but Kubutnu has ALOT more freedom, and its just all around great06:15
flowingfiresfire: :) cool.... ok06:15
sfiremike_: I run most of the windows apps I need in wine :)06:15
sfireworks flawlessly06:15
mike_whats Wine?06:15
DaSkreechmike_: hang out here a few hours each week. You'll pick up loads of tips06:15
sfirewine = windows emulator06:15
DaSkreechmike_: found alt+space yet?06:15
n8k99sfire: only if you have confiugured sessions to start last session06:16
flowingfirel8r for now, all. :)06:16
mike_how do i get wine?06:16
DaSkreech!wine06:16
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:16
sfiremike_: sudo apt-get install wine06:16
sfirenothing is as good as having all your favorite windows apps right inside linux... without running a virtual machine06:18
DaSkreechsfire: most06:18
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DaSkreechdthacker: check winhq.org06:19
CPrgmSwR2What package do I need to install the openGL documentation?06:20
Rictoo_" As far as i understand, you MUST remove all existing xgl/aiglx from your system for this method."06:20
Rictoo_How do I do that?06:20
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DaSkreechRictoo_: what method?06:21
Rictoo_For beryk06:21
Rictoo_beryl* on nvidia06:21
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DaSkreechRictoo_: have you asked in #ubuntu-effects ?06:21
Rictoo_I am06:22
Rictoo_currenly :\06:22
Schuenemann!midi06:22
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo06:22
Schuenemannis midi proprietary?06:23
sfireno.. its a open standard06:23
sfirestill used in lots of music equipment06:23
Schuenemannthen why can't we play it with the default installation?06:24
n8k99musical instrument digital interface06:24
n8k99because you need sound files for the various instruments which are supported by the protocol06:25
n8k99afaik there has been little effort to create a free instrument sounds library06:26
n8k99of quality06:26
sfirethere isn't much interest06:26
Schuenemannwhat do you mean free?06:26
sfire(except with musicians)06:26
Schuenemannisn't free the same as open?06:26
n8k99even with them- there is the effort06:26
Schuenemannopen standard, as sfire said06:26
n8k99midi is a protocol- that passes information between componenets06:27
n8k99your computer and a synthesizer06:27
Schuenemannhmm06:27
n8k99for teh computer to play the file- it has to have a sound library06:27
sfireor use one built into a sound card06:28
n8k99A4 for instrument #206:28
dthackerDaSkreech: winehq says definitely maybe for my version of RCT.  Newer version is platinum pick.06:28
dthackertnx06:28
Schuenemannok06:28
dthackerIs there a way to monitor the temperature probes on a Dell laptop?06:28
DaSkreechdthacker: a thermometer?06:28
sfiredthacker: yes there is a way... like lmonitor or something like that06:29
sfirebut what good is it going to do for you to watch it burn up?06:29
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sfiredthacker: your time would be much better spent fixing the cooling system on the laptop06:30
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sfiredthacker: they commonly get full of hair and dust.. once you clean it out it'll work like new.. but you have to tear it apart a little bit06:30
sfirethe full instructions are on dells website06:30
dthackersfire:  if I can't measure it, how will I know my work is effective?06:30
Schuenemannwhat does proprietary format mean?06:30
sfirewhen it doesn't shut down ?06:31
sfirewhat else really matters?06:31
Schuenemannlike, the format's structure is not revealed to everyone?06:31
DaSkreechSchuenemann: yes06:31
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SchuenemannDaSkreech, but how can programs play mp3, for example?06:31
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DaSkreechSchuenemann: that's more open than most but legally owned by a company06:32
DaSkreechZeelot3k: Sup?06:32
Schuenemannand players have to pay for being able to play it?06:32
DaSkreechSchuenemann: that's the idea06:32
Zeelot3kthe screen thing heh06:32
DaSkreechSchuenemann: they just started doing that after it became popular06:32
DaSkreechZeelot3k: Where are you lost?06:33
sfireSchuenemann: like apple paid for MP3 ability on their iPod06:33
Schuenemannreally? amarok pays a company for play mp3?06:33
sfireSchuenemann: amarok isn't using their code to play the mp3's06:34
sfirethats the loophole06:34
Zeelot3kwell I don't have putty to try with so I don't know what it's doing...this was for a friend06:34
sfirejust like openoffice doesn't use microsoft office code to open word files06:34
DaSkreechZeelot3k: you type screen -x to start screen06:34
Zeelot3khe wants to send a file to an ftp server but be able to close putty06:34
Schuenemannand why is apple using that code? :p06:34
DaSkreechZeelot3k: run the program that you want then press Ctrl+A Ctrl+D06:34
DaSkreechThen logout06:35
DaSkreech easy06:35
sfireSchuenemann: because they wanted the "real deal"06:35
Zeelot3kalright06:35
Schuenemannthat real deal is faster or something?06:35
sfireSchuenemann: no.. just bullet proof.. they didn't have to re-invent the wheel06:35
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Schuenemanncould they use the same code from amarok? or that would violate the license?06:36
sfirewe should continue the conversation in #kubuntu-offtopic06:37
sfiredon't need another mod pissed at me :p06:37
Schuenemannheh06:37
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SchuenemannI'm almost going to bed06:37
Zeelot3kDaSkreech: he says that doesn't work06:37
Schuenemannthanks though06:37
DaSkreechZeelot3k: where doesn't it work?06:37
Zeelot3kI don't know o_o06:37
Zeelot3kI guess the transfer stops when he logs out06:38
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sfireZeelot3k: that is ctrl+a then d06:38
sfireyou don't press ctrl when you press d06:38
DaSkreechZeelot3k: after he presses ctrl+A ctrl+D type screen -L (I think) to see if the screen is still running06:38
sfireits a quick ctrl + a then d alone06:38
DaSkreechAh right :)06:38
sfireI use that all the time when I want to leave torrents running in the background06:40
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sfireits also covered in the man page for it.. which is very good reading because the screen command has some neat options that I won't go into here06:41
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louis_hey guys06:45
louis_i have a font issue06:45
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sfirelouis_: yea?06:45
jussi01louis_: tell us?06:46
SillyZquestion : previiously on ubuntu I was able to tell the x-server to restart when a user logged out and back in, can the same be done in Kubuntu06:46
sfireSillyZ: I believe it does already06:46
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SillyZubuntu had to be specifically told to do so, im assuming the same of Kubuntu06:46
louis_okay it's kind of long winded and i dont knwo if it's a "problem" per se06:46
louis_the fonts are kind of fuzzy06:47
louis_and if i turn off the antialiasing it's too rough06:47
Bandit09hell yeah guys i love kubuntu. people said running mirc on wine would be slow? hell no it seems FASTER06:47
louis_is it a resolution issue?06:47
sfireSillyZ: I don't believe so... mine restarts.. I know because thats the only way for me to change video modes06:47
Bandit09i just wonder if i can use DLL's06:47
louis_bc i remember I ran ubuntu with FGLRX a long time ago and that solved the problem.  Here i'm running aiglx and xgl (so i don't really want to mess with that... i like xgl a lot)06:47
sfireBandit09: yes you can06:48
Bandit09sweet06:48
Bandit09thanks sfire06:48
Bandit09now i can get my old scrpt back06:48
DaSkreechBandit09: lots of stuff runs faster in wine than on windows06:48
Bandit09yeah06:48
DaSkreechBandit09: Heck lots of stuff runs in wine that can't run on windows06:48
Bandit09this is my first time running something in wine06:49
sfireI do love my wine :)06:49
DaSkreechsometimes a little too much06:49
Bandit09hell yes screw windows - kubuntu is the future06:49
ardchoillewine if ine but liqur is quicker06:49
Bandit09i cant believe i ever used bitch ass windows06:49
ardchoillelol06:49
sfirewe all had to get our start somewhere :)06:49
ardchoilleAnother one has seen the light06:50
Bandit09true06:50
sfirehehehehe.. I still learn new stuff about windows daily06:50
Bandit09who needs windows in a world without walls?06:50
Bandit09:D06:50
DaSkreechsfire: how many of them involve ways to catch a virus ?06:50
Bandit09ill answer for him: all06:50
sfireDaSkreech: very few06:50
louis_so anybody know what the font issue is?06:50
Bandit09my bad :)06:51
sfireDaSkreech: most of my finds have to do with new ways to do my job quicker06:51
sfirelike today I found out about robocopy :)06:51
Bandit09thing i like about people switching to linux: everyone who does it has made a choice. tons of windows slaves never even know they have a choice06:51
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sfirelouis_: what exactly is the font issue ?06:52
DaSkreechlouis_: tried sub pixel hinting?06:52
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sfirelouis_: maybe I missed it if you already said so06:52
Bandit09gonna go try to get my old script back, bbs06:52
louis_DaSkreech, how do i do that?06:52
sfirelouis_: I found it.. .do you happen to have a nvidia or ATI card?06:52
louis_haha i already did say so.  hang on, i'll copy and paste, sfire06:53
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louis_ATI ... i know...06:53
sfirelouis_: did you install the "real" driver for it?06:53
louis_i didn't install anything.  i used the native Feisty driver06:54
sfirethats probably why06:54
louis_aiglx, right?06:54
sfirethe generic nvidia driver does the same thing06:54
sfirethat I don't know... I refuse to use ATI crapola... but I'm sure someone can tell you how to install it06:54
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louis_oh okay. what do I need, and can i still use beryl/xgl?06:55
louis_i'll check the ubuntu-effects channel06:55
louis_thanks though06:55
sfireyep06:55
Bandit09oh yeah i love beryl06:55
sfireit should work even better06:55
Bandit09that is really awesome06:55
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sfireI couldn't get beryl to work :(06:55
Bandit09only thing i just wish i could figure out how to install themes for KDE06:56
louis_DaSkreech, what is subpixel hinting?06:56
Bandit09i like the "kore" theme06:56
Bandit09i can only use it in beryl06:56
DaSkreechlouis_: it's a thingy in kcontrol I think06:56
louis_and how do i configure it?06:56
Schuenemanngood night06:57
sfirenite06:57
ayyappanHi.06:57
sfirehi06:57
DaSkreechlouis_: type kcmshell fonts in a console06:57
Schuenemannsee you in another life, brother06:57
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DaSkreechyou can turn on anti-aliasing for fonts. then configure and you can try subpixel hinting06:58
ayyappani have a problem with my kubuntu here... it wld be fine if u coould help me out06:58
DaSkreech i think you have to logout to see the new difference06:58
sfireayyappan: just tell us the problem.. we will try06:58
DaSkreechHobbsee hiya06:58
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ayyappanmy kubuntu box recently updated to the linux 2.6.20-16 kernel06:58
Tm_Ttheshkrieek \o06:58
ayyappanand i cld no longer boot into the new kernel06:58
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ayyappanseeing my dmesg i see the boot gets locked up stating "attached generic scsi device type 0"06:59
louis__arrrrrrrrgh... modem crapped out!06:59
louis__so what's this subpixel hinting and how to i configure it?06:59
DaSkreechlouis_: type kcmshell fonts in a console06:59
DaSkreechyou can turn on anti-aliasing for fonts. then configure and you can try subpixel hinting07:00
DaSkreech i think you have to logout to see the new difference07:00
louis__okay. thank you!07:00
DaSkreechlouis__: ^^^07:00
Hobbseehi DaSkreech!07:00
Tm_THobbsee: (:07:00
ayyappansfire : seeing my dmesg i see the boot gets locked up stating "attached generic scsi device type 0"07:00
ayyappansfire : i am not sure wats happening07:01
louis__DaSkreech, I don't see subpixel hinting as an option07:01
ayyappansfire : got a solution for this or have u guys seen this prb07:02
DaSkreechlouis__: when you click on configure beside anti-aliasing ?07:02
louis__it's grayed out07:03
DaSkreechclick on the anti-alias checkbox07:04
louis__OH NVM!  I thought the horizontal bars meant it was selected07:04
louis__but no.  problem solved ... i am an idiot07:04
louis__DaSkreech, RBG?07:04
louis__and full?07:05
DaSkreechlouis__: Yep07:05
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louis__okay. should i restart x server?07:06
DaSkreechlouis__: sure07:06
louis__wait i don't understand though... shouldn't antialiasing make the fonts fuzzier?07:07
jarnIs there any way to make it so that when I minimize a fullscreen game my desktop goes back to it's normal resolution?07:07
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DaSkreechlouis__: I don't know.   I knwo subpixel hinting worked wonders on my screen07:09
DaSkreech some people it makes it look like a blob07:09
DaSkreechYMMV07:09
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louis_DaSkreech, looks good! thanks!07:10
DaSkreechlouis_: neat07:10
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Blast_Hardcheeseo_O07:18
Blast_HardcheeseSillyZ: That was kinda interesting07:18
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Blast_HardcheeseSillyZ: Anyway, sorry I missed the beginning of your question, You might want to try irc.moofspeak.net #OSx8607:19
SillyZYa it was07:19
SillyZGot flamed for just asking about OSX on Intel Hardware, which Apple Sells and Supports to begin with07:19
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Blast_HardcheeseWell,07:19
SillyZunbelivable07:19
Blast_Hardcheesethat's to be expected07:19
Blast_HardcheeseActually it is,07:19
Blast_HardcheeseConsidering it's illegal to run MacOSx on anything other than apple hardware07:20
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louis_SillyZ, let me guess... apple guys flamed you?07:20
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SillyZI was just looking for answers to questions, thats it.... didnt ask where to download it, etc, etc, etc07:20
DaSkreechMMMM roasted apples07:20
louis_Blast_Hardcheese, no $hit?07:20
Blast_Hardcheeselouis_: yep07:20
SillyZand then next thing I know Flame.Suit++07:20
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Blast_HardcheeseSillyZ: What questions did you have?07:20
louis_that's rediculous!07:20
Blast_HardcheeseI might be able to help you07:20
SillyZAsked about it not running  on both cores on an intel core duo07:21
DaSkreechlouis_: red apples?07:21
SillyZand thats about as far as it got07:21
SillyZjust been doing some reading, and considering osx, but screw that nwo07:21
SillyZnow07:21
louis_DaSkreech, i'm not following you07:21
DaSkreechrediculous07:21
louis_oh. haha07:21
louis_oops!07:21
DaSkreech:-)07:22
Blast_HardcheeseSillyZ: Please don't judge the OSx86 community by the majority of people in #macosx.07:22
Blast_Hardcheesewe're much more interesting ;)07:22
SillyZconsidering apple stole 99.9999% of its code from the linux community to begin with... and they get uppity about it07:22
DaSkreechSillyZ: they didn't07:22
Blast_HardcheeseAh well.07:22
SillyZanywho07:22
SillyZflame.off07:22
DaSkreechBSDmaybe07:22
Blast_Hardcheeseif that's your mentality then maybe I can't help you07:22
SillyZthanks blast07:22
louis_considering apple users shit snobbism and pseudo-intellectuality07:22
Blast_HardcheeseDaSkreech: BSD... maybe like 50%+07:22
DaSkreechYeah07:23
louis_lol well most of them in any case07:23
DaSkreechLinux no they took KHTML and they gave back07:23
louis_i can seriously pick a mac user out of a crowd07:23
Blast_Hardcheeselouis_: Of course07:23
Blast_HardcheeseI'll be the one with the apple hat ;)07:23
DaSkreechlouis_: and *nix people don't?07:23
louis_Point taken...07:23
DaSkreechCourse apple is now *nix ...07:23
louis_at least we don't feel good about paying for overpriced bull07:23
DaSkreechha ha07:24
DaSkreechin any case07:24
DaSkreech!O-T07:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about o-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:24
DaSkreech!OT07:24
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:24
Blast_Hardcheeselouis_: it's not like I buy apple desktops.07:24
Blast_Hardcheeselaptops... yes.07:24
Blast_HardcheeseDesktops, I'll make myself.07:24
louis_haha I don't mean to pick on you, blast07:24
sfirelets continue it in #kubuntu-offtopic07:24
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Blast_Hardcheesegood idea07:24
louis_see you guys there07:24
Blast_Hardcheeselouis_: 's OK07:24
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jarnHow does Xnest work?07:30
DaSkreechUnder pressure07:31
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hendaussomebody help please!07:31
DaSkreech!somebody07:32
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:32
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jarnDaSkreech: Xnest works under pressure? :P07:33
DaSkreech!ask | hendaus07:33
ubotuhendaus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:33
DaSkreechjarn: it makes a self contained X view I think07:33
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jarnDaSkreech: Yeah, but I want to know how to use it. :(07:33
DaSkreechOh07:34
DaSkreechUmm07:34
DaSkreechI used to just run Xnest and play with it07:34
jarnDaSkreech: I can't even figure out how to run it.07:34
DaSkreechjarn: is it installed?07:35
jarnDaSkreech: Yes.07:35
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jarnDaSkreech: Oh, there we go...07:35
DaSkreech:-)07:35
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jarnDaSkreech: The man page says to do "Xnest -display <display>" but that doesn't work, you have to do "Xnest <display>"07:36
waltercoolhi there... i have a problem07:36
waltercoolkubuntu installation isnt writting in grub :S07:36
DaSkreechwaltercool: we may have answers07:36
waltercoolxD07:36
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DaSkreechwaltercool: you don't get an option to boot into linux ?07:36
jarnDaSkreech: Do you know how to do something with it? All that happens when I run it is a gray window. If I could get to a command line...07:36
waltercooli pass directly to grub console :S07:36
DaSkreechjarn: wouldn't be a xnest then ...07:37
DaSkreechwaltercool: ahhh07:37
DaSkreech!grub07:37
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:37
waltercool...07:37
waltercooli dont have windows07:37
waltercoolafter kubuntu installation07:38
DaSkreechwaltercool: no the second link07:38
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waltercoolDaSkreech: But why dont create me a default conf?07:39
waltercooli have grub...07:39
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jarnDaSkreech: What do you mean? It is Xnest.07:39
DaSkreechwaltercool: not sure. I'd need a history of what you did07:39
waltercoolDaSkreech: install kubuntu07:39
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Bandit09tite as hell i love wine07:40
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waltercoolDaSkreech: but installation dont create me a grub.conf07:40
DaSkreechwaltercool: Hmm that's odd07:40
waltercool-.-07:40
DaSkreechwaltercool: did you install with a live cd or an alternate?07:41
waltercoolcd07:41
DaSkreechOh duh07:41
waltercoolfeisty07:41
DaSkreechdesktop you logged in as ubuntu07:41
waltercoolkubuntu07:41
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DaSkreechcan you mount your hard drive?07:41
waltercoolyes07:41
waltercoolbut idk all parameters of a grub.conf07:41
waltercooland a specific kubuntu07:41
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DaSkreechwaltercool: shouldn't need one I just need you to check that a kernel is there07:42
DaSkreechin /boot07:42
waltercoolyes07:42
waltercoolexist07:42
waltercoolvmlinuz...07:42
DaSkreechok07:43
DaSkreechtry a grub-install07:43
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waltercoolbut in livecd :S07:43
waltercoolthat can be assassin07:43
DaSkreechwaltercool: follow the steps in the first link07:44
waltercoolok...07:45
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DaSkreechwaltercool: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c007:46
DaSkreechthat section07:46
DaSkreechwaltercool: as I understand it Kubuntu is the only thing on the computer?07:46
sfireoh man... someone needed that earlier07:46
sfirethe only way I could tell them to fix it was a re-install :(07:46
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waltercoolDaSkreech: ah?07:48
waltercoolDaSkreech: yes... for now07:48
DaSkreechwaltercool: what other operating systems are there ... ah ok07:48
waltercoolDaSkreech: I want have Sabayon and kubuntu07:48
oldwestwhere can you find which version linux you're running fiesty etc?07:49
oldwestrun a konsole command?07:49
waltercoolii will try... DaSkreech07:49
waltercoolthanks...07:49
DaSkreecholdwest: lsb_release -a07:49
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oldwestdaskreech - thx so much - couldn't remember07:50
DaSkreechSure07:50
sfireDaSkreech is just hot tonight :p07:51
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oldwestyea - looks like i'm running ubuntu 6.10 edgy - thx again07:53
oldwestneed get the new fiesty - u like it?07:53
jarnWhen I try to run a game in Xnest I get this error: http://pastebin.ca/56072707:53
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DaSkreecholdwest: Yeah. though if you like edgy stick with it a while07:54
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oldwestyea its ok - but have another drive - i want to use the bleeding edge stuff - adventuresome  :o)07:55
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DaSkreechgutsy :)07:57
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sivaji!grub08:03
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:03
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waltercoolhey... works xD in part08:06
DaSkreechwaltercool: how well?08:07
waltercoolThe problem wasn't grub xDDD08:07
waltercoolwas the boot disk xD08:07
DaSkreech:-)08:08
waltercoolDaSkreech: Kubuntu have a lot of games xDDD?08:08
waltercoollike another distros?08:08
DaSkreech!games08:08
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org08:08
waltercoolmmm08:09
waltercool!thanks08:09
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)08:09
DaSkreechwaltercool: press alt+space -> type adept -> press enter08:09
RawSewagecan you burn the CD image of Kubuntu to a DVD. if so, how08:09
waltercoolwhat is katapult?08:09
RawSewage!katapult08:09
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.08:10
waltercool!ic08:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:10
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DaSkreechwaltercool: alt+space -> adept -> enter and tell me when it's open08:11
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waltercoolyeah... ic... thanks ;)08:12
DaSkreechwaltercool: it's open?08:12
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waltercoolDaSkreech: yes... im updating now :) xD08:13
waltercoolDaSkreech: thanks08:14
DaSkreechwaltercool: under the adept menu go to manage repositores08:14
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sfireDaSkreech: that alt+space is totally awesome... another cool trick :)08:14
jarnWhen I create an Xnest it is using Mesa and, hence, no direct rendering is present - is there any way to fix this?08:15
waltercoolDaSkreech: Mmm... ic, is too dangerous cancel a update?08:15
DaSkreechsfire: alt+space -> spell<space>fire -> giggle like a girl08:15
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DaSkreechwaltercool: oh no poke me when the update is done :)08:15
waltercoolok ;)08:16
waltercoolDaSkreech: Another thing... how can i enable root?08:16
waltercoolwithout sudo su?08:16
DaSkreech!root08:16
ubotudo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo08:16
DaSkreechwaltercool: you can just sudo anything that you need to do though08:16
DaSkreechand it stops you being root all the time08:16
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waltercoolDaSkreech: I dont want get all in home folder xD08:17
DaSkreechwaltercool: all?08:17
waltercoolDaSkreech: Apps are installed in home folder with sudo su, right?08:17
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DaSkreechwaltercool: umm08:18
DaSkreechwaltercool: not really08:18
waltercoolor only conf. files?08:18
DaSkreechonly .conf files08:18
waltercooland .folders  xD08:18
waltercoolDaSkreech: A last question xD... how can i resize a additional panel?08:19
waltercool!panel08:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:19
waltercoolcool08:19
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DaSkreechwaltercool: i don't see why not right click and configure it08:19
waltercoolbut only configure me the principal panel08:20
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intelikeyquestion how do you get konqueror to sage the pictures in a web page ?08:32
DaSkreechintelikey: poke08:32
intelikeysave08:32
intelikeyDaSkreech ?     poke ?08:32
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DaSkreechintelikey: can you view images from the CLI?08:32
intelikeyyeah.  that's not the point.08:33
intelikeyhow can i get konq to save the images with the page ?08:33
intelikeyor will i have to use something more powerful... like wget ?08:34
waltercoolDaSkreech: Kde can work without gnome libs?08:34
DaSkreechwaltercool: very well08:34
waltercoolDaSkreech: And why comes with a lot of gnome libs installed?08:35
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DaSkreechintelikey: tools -> archive web page08:35
DaSkreechwaltercool: it comes with none as far as I know08:35
RawSewagethat doesnt always work08:35
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waltercoolgconf...?08:35
RawSewageARchive web page doesnt seem to like css or something08:36
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sivajii have kubuntu and xp on my pc , i am going to reinstall xp will it affect linux (grub loader ) i have grub loader in a separate partitons08:37
intelikeywell thanks   it worked for what i wanted it for.08:37
waltercoolyes08:38
waltercoolsivaji:08:38
waltercool!grub xD08:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grub xd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:38
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waltercool!grub08:38
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:38
DaSkreechwaltercool: well done padawan08:38
DaSkreechhave a cookie08:38
waltercoolhahahah xD Lol08:38
DaSkreech!botsnack08:38
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!08:38
DaSkreechha ha08:38
sivajiwaltercool http://sgd.howto-linux.de/download/binaries/sgd_plus_distros/sgd_gparted_system_rescue_001.iso ple take look at this if have this in a cd can i recover kubuntu08:39
solid_liqanyone know why, when I try to print in feisty, cups gives me the error: request entity too large?08:39
waltercoolOMG... adepts is uninstalling me kde xO08:39
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sivajiwaltercool :08:41
waltercoolsivaji: yes?08:42
waltercoolo... sorry08:42
waltercoolbut u dont have livecd?08:42
sivajiwaltercool  : .docx  is a extension of openoffice or msoffice08:43
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sivaji!.docx08:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about docx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:43
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waltercooli cant see now xD... i havent konqueror08:43
DaSkreechsivaji: do you have a kubuntu cd ?08:45
sivajino08:45
sivajiDaSkreech no08:45
sivajiDaSkreech y u r asking this08:46
DaSkreechsivaji: do you have any live cds ?08:46
DaSkreechsivaji: you are trying to recover Linux after installing Windows?08:46
sivajiDaSkreech no i can get it from my friends08:46
DaSkreech!grub | sivaji08:46
ubotusivaji: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:46
DaSkreechsivaji: read the first link08:46
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sivajiDaSkreech ya i saw that but my probelms is ram08:47
DaSkreechsivaji: how much ram do you have ?08:47
waltercoolDaSkreech: Exist a package with kubuntu default?? xD08:47
sivajimy system rarely runs kubuntu from livecd08:47
sivaji256mc08:47
DaSkreechwaltercool: kubuntu-desktop08:47
sivaji256md08:47
waltercoolcool xD08:47
sivajiDaSkreech 256mb08:47
DaSkreechsivaji: there should be a section on that page on how to fix it from the alternate CD08:47
DaSkreechyou need almost no ram for that08:48
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sivajiDaSkreech  my system rarely runs kubuntu from livecd  i struggled a lot to install kubuntu08:48
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sivajifrom livecd08:49
DaSkreechsivaji: use the alternate cd08:49
DaSkreechit's not a live CD you should have no problems08:49
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sivajiDaSkreech ok08:49
DaSkreechsivaji: or if you like you can kill X on the LIve Cd and it shoudl be much better08:49
intelikeysivaji 256m ram is no reason for a live cd to fail.08:49
DaSkreechintelikey: but it's not impossible08:49
sivajiintelikey then what else08:49
intelikeyDaSkreech highly unlikely.08:50
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kravenzHi Leute08:51
sivajiintelikey i tried to install 32bit os in 64bit pc i think may be because of that right ..08:51
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intelikeyno.08:53
sivajiDaSkreech u said some thing about alternate CD what is that i dont find there08:53
krautmoin08:53
sivajiintelikey .docx is a extension for open office file or msoffice file08:54
DaSkreechmsoffice08:54
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sivajiDaSkreech cant we open .docx in openoffice easily like other files08:55
DaSkreechsivaji: depends on which version and no it's not assured08:56
intelikeyM$08:56
sivajiDaSkreech ok08:56
DaSkreechThe .docx spec is very vague and does many things that can only be interpreted "correctly" by microsoft08:56
DaSkreechBut there is a good chance that the newere versions of OO.o will handle it well08:56
DaSkreechintelikey: can you boot the desktop cd headless?08:57
sivajiDaSkreech intelikey http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/08:57
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sivaji!alien08:58
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)08:58
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intelikeysivaji URL is for what cause ?   you asked me "<sivaji> intelikey .docx is a extension for open office file or msoffice file" to which i answered "<intelikey> M$"   so what's the URL for ?09:00
DaSkreechsivaji: nice09:01
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DaSkreechintelikey: he asked if he could open it in openoffice09:01
DaSkreechintelikey: did you answer my query ?09:01
intelikeyDaSkreech yes it can boot.  may hang a process "startx" to be exact. but the system should boot.09:01
DaSkreechintelikey: oh right. not that one the how do you view images on the CLI09:02
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intelikeysvgalibs   and viewimage  or links2 -g09:02
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intelikeycan do it with other means   fbcon  for example09:03
intelikeywell i'm out.09:04
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anthony_Hi, how do I install ati drivers on kubuntu?09:07
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emonkey-f!fglrx09:07
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:07
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sysmanooo09:09
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darwin81If I install Kubuntu can I move my Firefox history and bookmarks to Konquerer?09:11
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TyphoidHippoHey, namol - are you actually in here?09:11
anthony_10x09:12
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sivaji!bean09:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:14
darwin81If I install Kubuntu can I move my Firefox history and bookmarks to Konquerer?09:14
sivajidarwin81 nice question09:14
DaSkreechdarwin81: Maybe :)09:14
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nkohi09:15
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nkoi ahve a general "ubuntu" question...09:15
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DaSkreechShoot09:15
sivajidarwin81 find the dir where u r history and book marks are stored09:15
nkohow can i add a new service at boot?09:15
sivaji!ask | nko09:15
ubotunko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:15
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DaSkreechdarwin81: you know you can still use firefox right ?09:16
darwin81yea09:16
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DaSkreechnko: there is a service manager in System settings -> advanced09:16
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nkois for a 6.10 server without serverX...09:17
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darwin81But I like native apps better09:18
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DaSkreechdarwin81: I don't know of a way to import the history09:18
SniZhi, can i install kubuntu via netboot?09:18
DaSkreechdarwin81: there is probably a tool though09:18
etntwhen I unplug the power to my laptop, the screen dampens, anyone knows if that can be fixed ?09:18
nkoi must add a command at the boot of the system...not at my login09:18
SniZhey09:20
SniZsomebody help me?09:20
sivajinko /etc/init.d i think u need to add here09:20
DaSkreech!netboot09:20
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues09:20
DaSkreechetnt: some new laptops do that in hardware but you can check power config09:21
DaSkreech!power09:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:21
eagles0513875i think i have found the best 64bit os09:21
eagles0513875lo,09:21
eagles0513875l09:21
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Jucato!netinstall09:22
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues09:22
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Jucatoah patience is the keyword for today09:22
sivajiJucato : hi dude my system never detect dvd disk09:23
eagles0513875Jucato: u trying to boot from a network to a machine that doesnt have a hard drive09:23
sivajiJucato but it works fine in windows09:24
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Jucatoeagles0513875: no. I was trying to answer SniZ's question. but he/she/it left just as I triggered the bot09:24
sivajii installed many plugins to support dvd09:24
eagles0513875lol09:24
mardihi all, there was an update yesterday (day before?) to a new kernel. Today kubuntu feisty is hanging at shut down. upon reset i get "stuff wasn't unmounted cleanly". Then a whole heap of inode and block issues. is this related to the new kernel?09:24
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sivajistill it doesnt works09:24
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eagles0513875that is the same for me it hangs on shutdown09:25
Jucatosivaji: um.. sorry, no idea..09:25
sivajiJucato ok09:25
eagles0513875how does one envoke a drive check09:25
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Young_Druidhi, has anybody installed vpn connection with static ip?09:26
eagles0513875mardi: i think u have to run fsck09:26
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eagles0513875but its best done during start up09:26
eagles0513875anyone know how i can invoke fsck to run at start up after rebooting my machine09:26
mardieagles0513875: i'm getting i_node and block erros during boot fsck09:27
eagles0513875ur running the 32bit version09:27
mardieagles0513875: yes, with a sata HDD09:29
eagles0513875interesting09:29
eagles0513875im not getting those errors and im on the 64bit version09:29
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eagles0513875only just the hanging at shutdown09:29
eagles0513875how old is hte hadd09:29
eagles0513875*hdd09:29
mardiold...09:29
eagles0513875bout how many yrs09:29
mardiprobably more than 3 or 409:29
eagles0513875i hate to break it to ya09:29
eagles0513875but ur drive could be goign bad if ur getting those block errors on startup09:29
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sivajii got combo drive which can read and write cd but it cant read (detect ) dvd disk ,but the same dvd disk and drive works fine in xp09:30
eagles0513875regardless of thsoe block errors can u at least get to the desktop09:30
DaSkreech!fsc09:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fsc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:30
DaSkreech!fsck09:30
ubotufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot09:30
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sivaji i got combo drive which can read and write cd but it cant read (detect ) dvd disk ,but the same dvd disk and drive works fine in xp09:31
eagles0513875DaSkreech: mardi has tried that but still during boot up he is getting those block errors09:31
mardieagles0513875: yeh, we can get to the desktop, and we've "fixed" the inode using fsck in puppy linux, and the next boot goes well.. until it's rebooted, then the cycle repeats: hangs, restet, then b0rk09:31
eagles0513875honestly i would backup any data and replace the drive09:32
mardieagles0513875: wanna buy me a new one? :p09:32
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eagles0513875lol09:32
eagles0513875i dont have any money or job :\09:32
mardime either!09:32
mardioi09:32
mattsqzme either09:33
eagles0513875u running a duel boot by any chance09:33
mattsqztill july09:33
mardieagles0513875: yes, triboot with MS and pc-bsd, all on the same 200gig HDD09:33
eagles0513875u dont have windows on there lol09:33
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eagles0513875lol forget winblows09:33
eagles0513875on pcbsd which im assuming is linux do u get the same errors09:34
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mardihave yet to try pcbsd. it's based off bsd, which isn't linux09:35
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mattsqzwhat about darwin09:35
mattsqzapple's bsd that osx sits on top of09:36
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jbruckman>.< i'm so frustrated with feisty right now. First my wireless doesn't work. I fix that. The Nvidia doesn't work, I try fixing that and break everything, 1000 times over. Finally I get back to where I think everything is at least ok, and I'm having problems with firefox, and a few other programs.09:36
jbruckmani'm 90% sure once it's not 2:30 in the morning, I'm downgrading back to edgy09:37
mattsqzfeisty is working wonderfully for me09:37
jbruckmancongratz, it's been nothing but a bi*** to me.09:37
mattsqznvidia, firefox, beryl..09:37
mattsqzwireless workin fine too09:37
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crimsunI really have no idea why people insist on upgrading if things are working09:37
mattsqznow that i got the issues with the wired sorted out, that is09:37
crimsunthe adage "don't fix what's not broken" is an adage for a reason...09:38
jbruckmancrimsun, i honestly don't know why i bothered.09:38
crimsunwe clearly support each desktop release for at least 18 months09:38
mattsqzthe idea that an upgrade is meant to fix something is an idea that came from microsoft09:38
TyphoidHippoDoes anybody know if it's possible to make Synergy server run on an actual server (that doesn't run X)?09:38
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crimsunit's not like things are going to go batcrack insane if you don't run the most current stable release09:38
Jucatocrimsun: um... because 1) they might need/want something from an updated version, 2) they don't really expect that what was working would not be working after an upgrade... you'd be expecting the opposite, right?09:38
mattsqzit should not have been released if there is stuff to fix, upgrades add new features09:38
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jbruckmani expect people to NOT break things.09:39
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crimsunJucato: feature creep is dangerous.  Drooling over new features is even more dangerous.09:39
jbruckmanbut then of course, in an open community especially, you just have to realize it's going to happen.09:39
Jucatocrimsun: that doesn't really answer the expectation that upgrades should not break stuff...09:39
eagles0513875i have nto encountered many bugs in the 64 bit version of feisty09:39
sivaji i got combo drive which can read and write cd but it cant read (detect ) dvd disk ,but the same dvd disk and drive works fine in xp09:39
mardithanks for the help.09:40
crimsunJucato: that's because there is no guarantee that upgrades will not hose something09:40
eagles0513875no problem mardi that is what we r here for09:40
Jucatoit's far more dangerous to accept that "upgrades *will* break working stuff" is the norm, though...09:40
eagles0513875seems like more development has gone into the 64bit version unless im wrong09:40
crimsunJucato: there is no SLA saying it or its opposite.09:40
eagles0513875u got to break somethign to fix it lol09:40
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JucatoSLA?09:40
crimsunacronymfinder :)09:41
Jucatofine fine... :/09:41
jbruckmanlol, sorry to start an argument gents. I was just venting.09:41
jbruckman:-p09:41
eagles0513875lol09:41
DaSkreechGnight09:41
eagles0513875night DaSkreech09:41
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Jucatosoftware license agreement?09:41
eagles0513875has anyone else use the 64 bit version of feisty09:42
tazzHey, whats up with shipit only allowing just 3 cds insted of the normal 10?09:42
crimsunJucato: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_Level_Agreement09:42
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DaSkreechJucato: http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/09:43
jbruckmanguys i'm stumped and need some help09:44
TyphoidHippoWhat's the command that you can run that will output in your terminal the details of anything you plug into your USB port?  I think I just overcomplicated my question...09:44
jbruckmani keep getting this error when file browsing...09:44
jbruckman"Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system."09:44
Jucatocrimsun: I'm talking about a seemingly prevalent mentality, not any formal guarantee set in writing. While I do know that upgrades *can* break things at times, there seems to be a pattern of using that as an excuse whenever something breaks in an upgrade...09:44
jbruckmanhow do i fix it?09:44
crimsunJucato: it's not an excuse, it's a syndrome09:45
JucatoTyphoidHippo: dmesg09:45
crimsunJucato: we obviously don't handle downgrades, which are also upgrades of a different nature09:45
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jbruckmananyone?09:46
jbruckmani don't really want to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a again, just to try to fix this...09:46
dwidmanneagles0513875: I do09:46
TyphoidHippoahh09:46
TyphoidHippothanks Jucato09:46
eagles0513875dw u regestered09:46
eagles0513875jbruckman: u trying to access a ntfs partition09:47
dwidmannwhere?09:47
eagles0513875on here09:47
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eagles0513875!register09:47
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration09:47
Jucatowell anyway, I'm in no position to talk about upgrades, since I don't have the technical knowledge sufficient to make an unbiased statement...09:47
jbruckmaneagles0513875: no. i'm trying to access my ext3 partition.09:47
Jucatohi Admiral_Chicago09:47
eagles0513875jbruckman: u try fsck09:47
eagles0513875!register | dwidmann09:47
ubotudwidmann: please see above09:47
TyphoidHippoNo, wait that's not it Jucato - I'll google it though, since I don't know how to word what I want to do very well.09:47
dwidmannah, that, yes09:47
eagles0513875its free to register09:47
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: i tried to build KDE4 from SVN...no go...09:47
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: hm...09:48
jbruckmaneagles0513875: trying now.09:48
eagles0513875ok09:48
jbruckmanit's clean09:48
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eagles0513875run it at reboot09:48
Admiral_Chicagocmake was not happy building kdelibs...oh well i'll try it in a bit09:48
JucatoTyphoidHippo: what else are you looking for?09:48
Admiral_Chicagojbruckman: what are you trying to fix exactly?09:48
jbruckmanthe above error mesg.09:48
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: if you eve need help, #kde4-devel would be a nice place to ask. but if you could remember the errors that you got, maybe I could try and guess? :D09:48
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jbruckman"Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system."09:49
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: also, I guess you're following the instructions from techbase?09:49
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: yes. techbase. i'm in that channel...09:49
Admiral_Chicagoi'll pastebin my last lof.09:49
Admiral_Chicagolog*09:49
Admiral_Chicagojbruckman: you get this on boot?09:50
jbruckmani get this when i try to browse my '/' folder.09:50
jbruckmanor any other folder under it09:50
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jbruckmanand i can't even look at the other disks.09:50
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sivajihow to mount dvd driver manually09:51
Admiral_Chicagodid you try a live CD and chown09:51
eagles0513875dwidmann: did u get my pm09:51
Admiral_Chicagowait...no thats not the command..09:51
dwidmannyes09:51
jbruckman:|09:51
jbruckmanchmod.09:51
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Admiral_Chicagochange permissions. yes that one09:51
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TyphoidHippoI found it, Jucato.  It was tail09:51
Admiral_Chicagojbruckman: this is what happens when you take back the Unix book you were letting me read09:51
jbruckman*insert swear words here* i should have to.09:52
TyphoidHipposudo tail -fn0 /var/log/messages  was the whole command09:52
jbruckmanAdmiral_Chicago: GAH. i want to kill something right now.09:52
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jbruckmanAdmiral_Chicago: lol09:52
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TyphoidHippoIt prints out the details of what you plug in in real time09:52
jbruckmanAdmiral_Chicago: glad i did, otherwise you might of left it at school. :-p09:52
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JucatoTyphoidHippo: actually, yes and no. tail only outputs the last part of a file.09:52
TyphoidHippohmmm...09:53
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JucatoTyphoidHippo: the important stuff there is which log file you are trying to output09:53
TyphoidHippooh09:53
TyphoidHippoI get it09:53
Admiral_Chicagohehe.09:53
jbruckmansigh.09:53
TyphoidHippoit prints out the end of the log file in real time, as the log is updated09:53
TyphoidHippothat's pretty cool09:53
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TyphoidHippoAlright, well I totally saw this coming - but running synergy server on a server that doesn't run x doesn't work....09:55
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cewanfMorning, has anyone here tried kcpuload on a dual core processor?09:56
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: error log: http://pastebin.ca/560911 retrieve it from /home/kde-devel/kde/build/KDE/kdelibs/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log09:57
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jbruckmangoing to reboot. see if it fixes some things...09:57
jbruckman*sigh* MRAWR!09:57
Admiral_Chicagothat guy was too angry...just kidding09:58
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Admiral_Chicagoi've known him for...6 years now...09:58
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sivaji!dvd10:00
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs10:00
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: there are lots of errors in there, is it the last one?10:00
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mattsqz_fscking dsl10:03
anthony_Hi, we are trying to install Kubuntu on a fujitsu siemens amilio pi1536, and after we choose START & INSTALL.. after a while it ends up with a blinking cursor at the top left of the screen.. any ideas?10:04
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: thats the full log....10:04
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: yeah, but it actually mixes all the errors from all other cmake runs :/10:04
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Admiral_Chicagoeverything seemes to work fine (no errors)10:05
Admiral_Chicagobuilt all the way afaik10:05
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: here's a tip. if something from KDE svn doesn't build, try svn up after a few hours and try again10:05
Admiral_Chicagoi tried that earlier too10:05
Admiral_Chicagowaited a few hours10:05
Jucato:/10:05
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: richard said it's probably related to it being Monday...10:06
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Jucatoah it's monday? lol I lost track of days :/10:06
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Admiral_Chicagowhen he told me it was...its now tuesday10:06
cewanfI am using KCpuLoad on a dual core system, but I only see one CPU graph in system tray. Anyone have any idea on how to fix this?10:06
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andrihellooo10:07
andrianybvody here in this room?10:07
Admiral_Chicagoi am10:07
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andrielllooo10:09
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tomahi, vmware-player-kernel-modules_2.6.20.15.14_i386 does not contain the modules, is there a workaround?10:15
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mattsqz_brb10:18
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mattsqzah thats better10:19
mattsqzgotta have splitfire with my epic10:20
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anthony_is there any install problems for kubuntu with fujitsu siemens amilo ?10:23
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mattsqzwhats an amilo10:27
mattsqza laptop?10:27
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anthony_yes10:27
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anthony_has an ATI X1400 graphic card..10:27
mattsqzwell step one..find out all about the hardware in it10:27
anthony_the live cd isnt loading..10:27
mattsqzwhat model is it10:28
rafto10:28
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anthony_AMILO PI 153610:28
mattsqz1536..k..10:29
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anthony_After we choose start & install, some things are loaded up... then a blank screen with a blinking cursor at the top left appears..10:29
mattsqzit doesnt look like there's any unusual hardware in it10:30
anthony_interestingly.. if we disable and enable the wireless through a switch on the laptop. a message displaying such action is shown .. hence something is working..10:30
mattsqzhave you tried starting the disc in vga mode10:30
anthony_message saying.. "Radio Frequency Kill Switch is On:"..10:30
anthony_we tried in VGA Safe Mode with the same result..10:30
mattsqzthat could easily be osd stuff in the laptop's hardware10:30
mattsqzit could be any number of things10:31
anthony_then if we press the SWITCH OFF button of the laptop.. the KUBUNTU SPLASH SCREEN COMES.. and it switches off normally10:31
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anthony_it seems the XSERVER is failing to load..10:32
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sercikHi! i'm trying to mount with nfs and i receive this error: mount: 10.0.0.1:/mnt/disco/shared failed, reason given by server: Permission denied10:32
serciksomeone can help me?10:32
mattsqzhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41419410:32
mattsqzcheck that out10:32
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mattsqzanthony10:32
anthony_okay10:33
mattsqzlooks like you have to use the alternate install cd and install in text mode10:33
llutzsercik: reason is written there, check permissions and /etc/exports on server10:33
anthony_okay 10x10:34
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sercikllutz: i have created /etc/exports10:34
sercikad then i have give exportfs command10:35
masterloki:>10:35
sercikprobably i'm wrong with syntax...10:35
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sercikthis is my /etc/exports:10:35
sercik/mnt/disco/shared sercik-desktop(rw)10:35
sercik/mnt/disco/mldonkey sercik-desktop(rw)10:35
sercik#10:35
serciksercik-desktop  il client10:36
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serciksercik-desktop is the client10:36
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zulu.10:40
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Kite_DHkubuntu, hooray!10:42
G3NESIS!beryl10:43
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:43
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grulis there any easy way to restore all default apache config files?10:47
balajihi friends10:47
gruli seem to have messed it up a bit10:48
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balajiis there a way of creating an iso image of a CD in linux10:48
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frojndhello there! How can I type in one line that I wanna update and upgrade and dist upgrade and also allways that it asks if I really wanna do that, answer with yes, allways yes ?10:48
llutzbalaji: a normal data-cd? cat /dev/cdrom >file.iso10:48
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renatoshi to all!!! By mistake a deleted a directory in a VFAT file system in my hardisk... how can i recover this disaster!?!??!?! please help me :-///10:49
balajiits a windows OS cd10:49
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llutzbalaji: should work10:50
balajithanks10:50
llutzfrojnd: sudo aptitude -y update && sudo aptitude -y dist-upgrade10:51
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frojndhow can I go with VLC forward for like 10sec or smth like that with keyboard ?10:59
frojndllutz: tnx10:59
renatosBy mistake a deleted a directory in a VFAT file system in my hardisk... how can i recover this disaster!?!??!?! please help me :-///11:00
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sercik_how can i kill sercik ghost?11:03
sercik_i'm sercik but i can't connect with that name11:03
Jucatosercik_: is sercik registered?11:04
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sercik_sure!11:04
Jucatoah there :)11:05
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sercikdone!11:05
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sercikJucato: can you help me?11:05
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serciki have a problem with exportfs command11:05
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sercikalso if i launch it with -v i can't see output11:06
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sercikit seems that doesn't export my shares and so i can't mount on client11:06
llutzsercik: exportfs -a11:06
sercikthank you llutz11:07
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sercikthe output tells about sync is better that i add sync option??11:08
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llutzsercik: i prefer it11:09
sercikNo options for /mnt/disco/shared 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0: suggest 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0(sync) to avoid warning11:09
sercikdo you explain me this line?11:09
llutzsercik: as long as you don't use "sync" you'll get a warning.11:09
sercikand then No host name given with /mnt/disco/shared (rw,sync), suggest *(rw,sync) to avoid warning11:09
serciki have added sync on exports file11:10
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sercikthis is a tipical line: /mnt/disco/shared 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 (rw,sync)11:10
llutzsercik: add a host/net11:10
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sercikcould you wite me the correct syntax?11:11
llutzsercik: how about reading the manual? :)     /mnt/disco/shared 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 *(rw,sync)11:11
sercikllutz: sorry!11:12
serciki have read two guides11:12
sercikbut the differences is * ?11:12
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llutzsercik: without space, sry   /mnt/disco/shared 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0(rw,sync)11:13
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sercikah! ok now11:13
llutzsercik:or   /mnt/disco/shared 10.0.0.0/24(rw,sync)11:13
llutzsercik:or   /mnt/disco/shared 10.*(rw,sync)11:13
sercikinfact i didn't understand why the output sugests the options i have already added11:13
sercikthe space is incorrect11:13
sercikis there a grphical tool like smb4k for nfs browsing11:15
ssuuddoohi, could anyone tell me if there is a way to run a swf file with a borderless player?11:15
ssuuddooi dunno11:16
sercikmplayer is borderless11:16
sercikdo you mean in browser page?11:16
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ssuuddoono11:19
ssuuddoowill try mplayer11:19
ssuuddoomy intention is:11:19
ssuuddoo...will explain11:19
ssuuddoosome programs have a nice notifiers11:19
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ssuuddoofor example incredimail for email notification11:19
ssuuddoothey are in the swf format11:19
ssuuddoo(for example a 3D envelope spins around the systray several times)11:20
ssuuddooI had the idea that normal email notifier that could run a command could run a swf-player that would play selected swf file without a window11:20
ardchoillessuuddoo: kbiff can do that11:20
ssuuddoojust the swf with full transparency11:20
ardchoillessuuddoo: superkaramba can do email notification and gkrellm can too11:21
ssuuddooand korn can do it also, but I dunno, which swf-player to use11:21
ssuuddoowait, will try the mplayer11:21
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ssuuddoocan you make a superkaramba script that runs a swf file on the desktop?11:25
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ssuuddooanyway - can superkaramba work with SWF files?11:35
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rowenthedarkCouple of questions: How do i make my home folder appear on my desktop? And what is the default file manager?11:37
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JucatoDefault Filemanager = Konqueror11:38
rowenthedarkjucato: how can i change it to dolphin?11:39
Jucatolink to home: right-click on the desktop -> Create New -> Link to location - type in "home:/"11:40
Jucatorowenthedark: you wouldn't want to use Dolphin on KDE 3.5 just yet...11:40
anthony_mattsqz: we installed the alternate cd but when we come to doing sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx  it tells us "Couldn't find package xorg-driver-fglrx"11:40
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rowenthedarkjucato: why not?11:40
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Jucatorowenthedark: the version of Dolphin on KDE 3 has not been updated nor will it be updated. it's not even close to what Dolphin really has right now in KDE 4, both in features and stability11:41
rowenthedarkjucato: okay. thanks for that info.11:41
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Jucatoso unless you really want to use a gimped version of Dolphin, you can go to Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> inode -> directory and change it there11:42
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rowenthedarkjucato: I installed KDE 4 but seem to have lost it somewhere. IE not in session menu. Any idea where it is and how to start it?11:44
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rowenthedarkSorry for so many questions btw.11:45
pagrowenthedark, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php here are the instructions on how can you get it to your session menu :)11:45
Jucatorowenthedark: how did you install KDE 4? kubuntu.org packages? if yes, check the announcement page for that11:45
rowenthedarkpag and jucato thank you.11:46
rowenthedarkI think thats everything. Thanks again.11:48
rowenthedarkWait one more question: How can I keep gnome stuff from showing up in my kde menu?11:49
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RawSewagewhat version of GNOME is in Ubuntu11:51
RawSewage7.0411:51
rowenthedark2.18command line.1 i think11:52
Jucato!info gnome-desktop-environment11:52
ubotugnome-desktop-environment: The GNOME Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.14.3.3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 13 kB, installed size 44 kB11:52
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Jucatojer...11:52
Jucatohm..11:52
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ardchoille!info gnome11:52
ubotugnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.14.3.3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 44 kB11:52
RawSewagety11:52
Jucatothat should be 2.16 afaik...11:52
ardchoilleI think it is 2.1611:52
Jucatoactually. 2.1811:52
rowenthedarki thought it was 2.18.111:52
ardchoilleAh, ok11:52
crdlb!info epiphany-browser11:52
ubotuepiphany-browser: Intuitive GNOME web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.18.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3130 kB, installed size 13280 kB11:52
Jucatoat least it should be...11:53
ardchoilleAh, yeah, 2.18.111:53
rowenthedark:)11:53
RawSewageis it easy to upgrade to 2.1811:53
Jucatosince Ubuntu syncs w/ GNOME releases11:53
Jucatowhat do you mean?11:53
ardchoilleJucato: bot info not reliable?11:53
RawSewageFeisty cant have 2.1811:54
RawSewageit just came out 2 weeks ago11:54
ardchoille!info nautilus feisty11:54
ubotunautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.18.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 645 kB, installed size 1568 kB11:54
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ardchoilleLooks like the bot info isn't reliable11:54
crdlbRawSewage, it does11:54
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crdlband 2.18 came out in march iirc11:55
RawSewage2.18.2 / 30 May 200711:55
rowenthedarkIs there a menu editor in kde and if so where would i find it?11:55
RawSewagecrdlb, oh ok.  thats .211:55
crdlbRawSewage, that's 2.18.211:55
RawSewageI see11:55
ardchoillerowenthedark: right click on the menu icon11:55
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rowenthedarkardchoille thanks11:56
linux_Hi there.11:56
ardchoillerowenthedark: Or you can alt+f2 and type in  kmenuedit11:56
linux_I have never had 3D support on linux on any distros11:56
Jucato"Best of the open source world: Ubuntu 7.04 supports the Linux 2.6.20 kernel, the recent GNOME 2.18 desktop environment, and thousands of additional applications."11:56
linux_can anyone help me get 3D11:56
JucatoRawSewage:  ^^^11:56
Jucatotoo bad he left11:56
linux_The graphics card can support it.11:57
linux_just i never had help to enable it11:57
Jucatowhat video card?11:57
rowenthedarkWhy is it 3d graphics work out of the box on intel 9xx series cards but not on ati/nvidia without a lot of work.11:58
linux_its ati11:59
dwidmannrowenthedark: intel cards have open drivers11:59
linux_9700 i think11:59
Jucatorowenthedark: because intel has opened their drivers11:59
llutzrowenthedark: at/nvidia are closed drivers11:59
Jucato!ati | linux_11:59
ubotulinux_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:59
sivaji2009linux_ lspci11:59
linux_i installed the ati opengl support thing on the new kubuntu11:59
linux_off the installer11:59
rowenthedarkAhhhh. That explains why my desktop was a pain to set up. Has ati card.11:59
crdlblinux_, on feisty, there's builtin 3d support for the 970011:59
rowenthedark:(11:59
crdlbenough for beryl, etc. at least12:00
linux_bulitin?12:00
crdlbyes12:00
linux_whats that mean12:00
crdlbit's not as fast as the ati proprietary driver, but it runs beryl better and it's far more stable12:00
Jucatorowenthedark: the fact that ATI is rumored to have not so nice Linux drivers also adds to that difficulty12:00
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crdlblinux_, you don't have to do anything to enable it12:00
crdlbit's works out of the box12:00
rowenthedarkjucato: yes.12:00
linux_miene dont12:01
linux_mine done*12:01
crdlblinux_, you want 3d for games?12:04
rowenthedarkIf I edit my k-menu will it affect my gnome menu?12:04
crdlbor for beryl?12:04
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linux_eberyl12:04
Jucatorowenthedark: no12:04
linux_beryl12:04
crdlblinux_, run: lspci|grep VGA12:04
linux_i installed beryl before12:04
faidillingerberyl still exists ????12:04
rowenthedarkjucato: Thanks.12:04
linux_it didnt qwork12:04
rowenthedarkBeryl will always exist. :)12:04
Jucatoer... not as "beryl" per se12:04
faidillingerhmmmm i think it was back again with compiz12:04
crdlbfaidillinger, that hasn't had a release yet12:04
Jucatowell not exactly "merged" perfectly12:04
crdlbif you want it you have to pull it from git12:04
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faidillingercrdlb: hmmm k12:05
linux_ooops12:05
linux_960012:05
linux_01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 12:05
Jucatocompiz and beryl have re-joined, but beryl is a sort of "compiz-extras" part of the compiz project12:05
crdlblinux_, close enough12:05
crdlblinux_, run: glxinfo|grep direct12:05
faidillingerhmmmmmmmmmmmmm you know what everybody: i feel like jerking off12:05
Jucato!language | faidillinger12:05
ubotufaidillinger: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:05
faidillingerlol12:05
linux_direct rendering: no12:05
crdlblinux_, glxinfo|grep client12:05
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crdlblinux_, does it say SGI or ATI?12:05
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RawSewage_Im installing Ubuntu on my other HD12:05
RawSewage_I have Kubuntu on my main12:05
linux_client glx vendor string: ATI12:05
linux_client glx version string: 1.312:05
linux_client glx extensions:12:05
crdlblinux_, sudo apt-get --purge remove xorg-driver-fglrx12:05
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sivaji2009RawSewage_ so12:05
linux_ok12:05
linux_did some stuff12:05
crdlblinux_, now try: glxinfo|grep direct12:06
crdlbagain12:06
linux_DIrect rendering: yes12:06
RawSewage_so Im on the Live CD now, and Ubuntu wants to know if I want to import my account from Kubuntu.  What will get imported?12:06
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crdlblinux_, now beryl will work12:07
linux_i'll try now12:07
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sivaji2009RawSewage_ rephrase u r sentence12:08
RawSewage_ When I install Ubuntu and import a Kubuntu account, what is getting imported?  Im on the live CD now12:08
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RawSewage_I wonder why GNOME takes up screen space with 2 bars, one at top and one at bottom12:09
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sercikllutz: i'm able to see but i can't write on my nfs shared directory... i have used rw in file /etc/exports... if you can't help me don't worry12:09
missmolotovhello i was wondering if someone could give me a little lshw help please?12:09
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serciklshw?12:10
llutzsercik: check file permissions12:10
sercikbut i'm root!12:10
serciki use sudo to mount nfs12:10
Jucatosercik: it's a command. like lspci12:10
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llutzsercik: your user needs write-right to the nfs-share12:10
RawSewage_Does anyone know the answer12:10
RawSewage_Im sitting here at the Install window12:10
sercikah!12:10
serciknow i try to write eith sudo to see if works12:11
JucatoRawSewage_: the people in #ubuntu might know that better12:11
llutzsercik: otherwise you have to map the users12:11
RawSewage_Jucato; Im asking there, but theyre useless12:11
RawSewage_that channel tried to ban me just because my name is RawSewage12:11
RawSewage_and all I ever did there was help people12:12
RawSewage_wait someone replied12:12
missmolotovi just wondered if anyone knew what ehz meant?  i have 2 p4 machines, when i lshw one of them, in the cpu bit, it tells me the size is 2GHz, on the other PC the one that keeps crashing, it tells me the size is 18EHz12:12
missmolotovi was wondering if it wasn't recognising the cpu properly or soemthing, as it's freezing about once every 20 mins12:13
serciki can't write on nfs share also if i'm root12:13
linux_do i have to reboot to test beryl?12:13
missmolotovand all i'm doing is editing html12:13
crdlblinux_, you shouldn't12:13
linux_ok12:13
serciklinux_: do beryl-manager12:13
linux_i just tryed one ok kde's 3d games just to test, it didnt run12:13
sercikif you have installed beryl-manager package and if not install it12:13
linux_it said i had no 3d acceleration12:13
crdlbmissmolotov, Exahertz?12:13
sercikgo glxinfo | grep direct in konsole12:13
crdlblinux_, run: beryl-manager12:14
crdlboh heh12:14
sercikhi crdlb: can you help me with nfs?12:14
missmolotovcrdlb: that's kind of what i was guessing, but i don't really know what that means, or what the implcaition of that is12:14
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crdlbsercik, nope :(12:14
crdlbmissmolotov, you shouldn't overclock it so much? :D12:14
linux_i think beryl has crashed12:15
missmolotovit's not over clocked :/12:15
serciksomeone? is pratic with nfs?12:15
missmolotovit's just a dell work machines i've tried to get kubuntu on!12:15
linux_cause i lost the task bars on top of all the windows12:15
linux_the windows cant move12:15
crdlblinux_, can you alt+drag windows?12:15
linux_yea :S12:16
linux_lol12:16
crdlblinux_, and the wobble?12:16
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crdlbthey*12:16
serciklinux if you a nvidia card you need to add an option to xorg.conf12:16
linux_yea12:16
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crdlblinux_, right click on the jewel12:16
crdlband click "reload window decorator"12:16
linux_ok12:16
Guilty_as_Sinhow do you enable restricted drivers (nvidia) in kubuntu?  I knew how on gnome..12:16
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linux_nothing happpened12:17
RawSewage_Kubuntu doesnt have the REstricted Drivers thing yet12:17
Guilty_as_Sinoic12:17
RawSewage_I think it will in Gutsy12:17
dwidmannGuilty_as_Sin: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-xconfig12:17
crdlblinux_, make sure you have the "emerald-themes" package installed12:17
serciklinux_: do kwin --replace12:17
crdlbsercik, ?12:17
crdlbGuilty_as_Sin, you can use nvidia-glx-new if your card is FX series or newer12:18
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Jucatodwidmann: might want to install linux-restricted-modules-generic ias well12:18
Guilty_as_Sinjust add new to nividia-glx-???12:18
linux_Kwin Fatal IO error client killed12:18
linux_do u think cause beryl is still running?12:19
Guilty_as_Sinor is it a different command all-to-gether?12:19
Jucatolinux_: you can't have 2 window managers (beryl and kwin) running at the same time12:19
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Guilty_as_Sinit is Fx series12:19
sercikbut with --replace yes12:19
linux_:S12:20
serciklinux_: do the command sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals12:20
crdlbsercik, no12:20
sercikthis adds the correct line to your xorg.conf12:20
crdlbhe's not on nvidia12:20
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linux_im on ati12:20
sercikthen restart X12:20
linux_Ok12:20
crdlblinux_, don't12:20
sercikcrdlb: which is your problem?12:20
crdlbwhat?12:21
serciklinux_: doesn't have a nvidia card?12:21
crdlbcorrect12:21
crdlbhe has a radeon 960012:21
serciki have a nvidia card and that solution works for me12:21
crdlband he doesn't12:21
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sercikah ut i have asked him for a nvidia12:21
Guilty_as_Sinsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new && sudo nvidia-xconfig   correct?12:21
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crdlbGuilty_as_Sin, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new linux-generic && sudo nvidia-xconfig12:22
linux_shall i stop beryl and restart it?12:22
serciki don't know ati i will not speak anymore... sorry!12:22
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crdlbthat covers all your bases12:22
Guilty_as_Sinthanks12:22
crdlblinux_, sudo apt-get install emerald-themes12:22
crdlbmake sure that's installed12:22
linux_its downloading them12:23
linux_woo!12:23
linux_i have it back12:23
linux_nice one dude12:23
linux_Im gona log this convo for future use.12:23
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linux_crdlb: many thanks12:24
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linux_one thing i dont know beryl comands12:24
linux_like to change screens12:24
malik__what software shud i use if i need to convert real audio file into mp3 format?12:24
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crdlblinux_, try: ctrl+alt+mouse_drag :D12:24
RawSewage_mplayer12:24
linux_wow12:24
linux_id thaught that would be jumpy12:25
linux_lol12:25
RawSewage_mplayer can convert ra to mp312:25
linux_crdlb: i just send the windows all back, how did i do that it was a mistake12:25
linux_hehe12:25
malik__RawSewage_: how do i do that with mplayer?12:25
RawSewage_malik__: Im on the Live CD now, so I dont have the command handy12:26
crdlblinux_, this is a good reference to all the plugins: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Plugins12:26
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linux_thanks :)12:26
linux_you know some people12:27
RawSewage_I can tell you in a little bit though12:27
linux_minamze and have fire12:27
linux_is that compiz12:27
linux_and not beryl12:27
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RawSewage_malik__: actually, I convert ra to wav first, then convert it to ogg after Im done editing out the commercials12:28
malik__RawSewage_:  thats oki but i cant see any options in mplayer to do that12:28
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crdlblinux_, that's beryl12:28
RawSewage_I think its something like   mplayer -ao pcm:file blah blah12:29
RawSewage_I cant remember offhand12:29
missmolotovodder and odder if you do lshw and lshw -html they give different results12:29
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linux_ohh12:30
linux_and thats a plugin?12:30
G3NESISCan someone please help me. I'm trying to enter super user mode using "su -p" but it says my password is wrong.12:30
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Jucato!sudo | G3NESIS12:31
ubotuG3NESIS: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:31
crdlblinux_, it's part of the visual effects>animation12:31
crdlbplugin12:31
crdlblinux_, it's called the "burn" effect12:31
RawSewage_malik__:  you use mplayer in the konsole12:31
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RawSewage_malik__: to convert12:31
RawSewage_actually, I have it set to where I just double click an .ra file and it automatically convert it to wav12:32
malik__RawSewage_: dont knoiw hot to do that, might try it laters then, thanx for trying anyways12:32
RawSewage_ok12:33
rowenthedarkHow do I change screen resolution?12:33
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dwidmannperhaps 'mencoder -oac mp3lame FILE' would work also12:33
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Jucatorowenthedark: System Settings -> Monitor & Display12:34
m_tadeuhi...can anyone please tell me where to find the hardware detection application?12:34
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rowenthedarkjucato: no such entry.12:35
dwidmannrowenthedark: do you have "kdeguidance" installed?12:35
Jucatorowenthedark: what do you mean? K Menu -> System Settings (the application)12:35
Jucatonot the System menu in K Menu12:35
rowenthedarkjucato: then which system menu?12:37
Jucatorowenthedark: not a menu. the "System Settings" app12:37
rowenthedarkjucato okay12:38
JucatoIt's just below Utilities, above Find Files & Folders12:38
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rowenthedarkjucato found it, but no display option.12:42
JucatoMonitor& Display is the name12:42
rowenthedarkIt isn't there.12:42
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bentob0xwhat's the best software to view quicktime files?12:42
Jucatorowenthedark: ok, check if you have "kde-guidance" installed12:42
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rowenthedarkjucato: That could have been the problem.12:42
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rowenthedarkjucato: If I change my resolution to 1024x768 on widescreen will it fill up the whole screen still?12:42
Jucatoum I guess so12:43
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Jucatodon't really know. I don't have widescreen12:43
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rowenthedarkjucato: Okay. Installed kde-guidance but still no monitor in settings.12:44
Jucatorowenthedark: ok, press Alt+F2, type in "displayconfig"12:44
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rowenthedarkGreat12:45
rowenthedarkThat did it,12:45
rowenthedarkjucato: Now all my drive icons are gone.12:46
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rowenthedarkbrb12:47
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rowenthedarkjucato: thanks for the help. :)12:48
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FSHeroHello all; I have a problem...12:53
pvandewyngaerdewhen booting i get error " apt not installed type apt-get install alt to get it"12:53
iarwain_anyone know something about dvd::rip and subtitles? got a strange problem..12:54
FSHero... my computer does not automatically shut down; I have to manually press the power button.12:54
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G3NESISCan someone help me please Help. How do I configure startup applications?12:55
FSHeroIs there any way to make my comp shut down without me having to press the power button? Atm, I see the black bar of Kubuntu fill, and my hard disk 'click' ominously, but no automatic shutdown occurs.12:55
Jucato!autostart | G3NESIS12:55
ubotuG3NESIS: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.12:55
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G3NESISThanks Jucato. I should just do commands when I ever need info.12:57
bentob0xanybody knows how to run quicktime movies through your browser?12:57
FSHeroG3NESIS: I use Xfce too, as well as KDE. Will that autostart programs in Xfce?12:57
JucatoFSHero: no. GNOME, KDE, and Xfce have different autostart mechanisms12:58
FSHeroJucato: aha. nm12:58
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Jucatobentob0x: iirc, libxine-extracodecs will let you play those12:59
bentob0xgoing to look for that, thx Jucato01:00
FSHeroJust quickly, how do you check, from the command line, whether you have a package installed?01:04
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LinuxApeClamTk claims it doesn't have virus definitions and suggests using freshclam to get them, but when I click help->UpdateSignatures, it tells me my virus information is up-to-date.  Any fix?01:19
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Medvebocs_hi01:29
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fab_hallo01:43
ardchoilleBot, this channel died real quick.01:45
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FSHerowhere has everybody gone? (lunch?)01:47
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FSHeroA sort-of off-topic question, but: if Sun has released Java under the GPL, how come it isn't put on the K/X/Ubuntu CDs?01:48
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DragnslcrIt probably will be in the (somewhat) near future01:50
FSHeroDragnslcr: cool!01:53
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rowenthedarkBeryl and superkaramba won't run at the same time? or do they need to be loaded in a certain order?02:00
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rowenthedarkCorrection of previous question: Beryl has to load first then superkaramba. :)02:06
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rowenthedarkNow how can I load beryl and superkaramba with all my widgets when kde starts?02:07
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opticyclicrowenthedark: you should be able to. I am set up that way, although I cant tell you exactly what I did :)02:17
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opticyclichave you set beryl as the default window manager?02:18
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rowenthedarkopticyclic: No don't know how to set beryl as default window manager02:19
rowenthedarkopticyclic: Come to think of it preloading beryl would be a great help. Superkaramba I can load after that manually I guess.02:20
pawitpI'm finding KVM extremely slow for some reason02:21
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Young_Druidhi, all. can anyone suggest why vpn connection is enabled only 0.9 minutes? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25228/02:22
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mikkaeli need some help: when i boot my system i get "mounting local filesystems" -> "failed" .. where can i see what is going wrong ?02:25
DJServersis there a command in konsole to format one of my harddisks ?02:27
DJServersi need to do that02:27
DJServers!harddisk02:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about harddisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:27
Dragnslcr!fdisk02:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:29
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mikkaelDJServers: Try QTParted or GParted02:31
mikkael!qtparted02:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:31
mikkael:)02:31
tazzdo we have a tool to configure ipaddress in kubuntu?02:31
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DJServershi02:31
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ardchoilleFSHero: For one thing, once a version of ubuntu is released, the repos don't get new software.. only security updates and bug fixes.02:32
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DJServershow can i format my harddisk? one of them?02:32
ardchoille!format02:33
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter02:33
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DJServersis there some cind of command for console?02:33
mikkaeldidnt you read? mkfs02:34
DJServers!find | mkfs02:34
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opticyclicrowenthedark: can you right click on the Emerald and set the default manager from there? Is there an option in the session manager as you login? I'm not at my linux box at the mo so I cant give exact info02:34
DJServers!info | mkfs02:35
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JucatoDJServers: that's not how to use it02:35
Jucato!find mkfs02:35
DJServerso lol :P02:35
ubotuFile mkfs found in gfs-tools, gfs2-tools, jfsutils, util-linux02:35
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DJServers!Gparted02:35
ubotuGParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php02:35
ardchoilleProbably util-linux02:35
JucatoDJServers: mkfs is already installed anyway.02:35
Jucatono, it's there by default afaik02:35
DJServerso where can i find it?02:35
ardchoilleman mkfs02:36
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Jucatoer.. type it in the command line :)02:36
ardchoilleIt should already be installed02:36
Jucatoor do what ardchoille said to find out the specifics02:36
DJServerso yeah02:36
DJServersi typted in console man mkfs02:36
DJServerscan i format one of my harddisks with that?02:37
ardchoilleDJServers: And if you need to partition, there's fdisk.. but that's one of those things where a gui is kinda handy (qtparted)02:37
DJServersbut with what program can i format a hole harddisk?02:38
ardchoillemkfs02:38
ardchoilleThat builds a Linux file system02:38
DJServersbut how i dont get it :P02:38
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ardchoilleYou'll need to read the man page for the specific options02:39
ardchoilleI've never used mkfs, I always use qtparted to format partitions02:39
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DJServersnot format partitions the hole disk02:40
tanakahi all02:40
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ardchoilleDJServers: A disk is broken up into partitions, each partition has a file system. You don't mount devices, you mount file systems. If you want to format the entire disk, you just need to format the partitions on the disk or create new partitions02:41
DJServersbut how thats the thing i dont understand02:41
ardchoilleYou'll need to read the man page for the specific options02:41
t0vighas anyone played with source compiling all their packages?02:42
DJServersi did that already but i dont under stand it02:42
DJServers!format02:42
ardchoillet0vig: Why would you want to do that? compiling everything would take days.02:42
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter02:42
DJServers!GParted02:43
t0vigardchoille: Because Gentoo runs almost 2x's faster on my slow PC02:43
ubotuGParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php02:43
t0vigardchoille: I was thinking about hacking adept to do it02:43
opticyclicWhich channel is discussing UI improvements, graphics/colours etc?02:43
ardchoillet0vig: I don't know, I gave up compiling when I discovered Ubuntu in 2004, lol02:44
Jucatoopticyclic: for what?02:44
opticyclicsuggestions for default Kubuntu wallpaper themes etc02:45
ardchoilleopticyclic: Have you tried http://www.kde-look.org  ?02:46
t0vigardchoille: obviously, it would have no *mass* appeal, it's just won of those "because it COULD be done" things ;-)02:46
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opticyclicI know how to change stuff, I just want the default changed :)02:46
tanakawhats the correct way of installing the newest nvidia drivers from the nvidia site.I instlalled build-essentials and installed the driver,but it failed last time(i am using a freshly installed os /w 2.6.20-16 kernel)02:46
BluesKaj'Morning folks02:46
ardchoilleopticyclic: Wnat some pneguins on ur desktop?02:47
Jucatoopticyclic: want? I don't think it will be easy to get defaults changed just because you *want* too :)02:47
BluesKajtanaka, how did it fail , the installation or implementation ?02:47
opticyclicI want to suggest something and see what others think02:47
opticyclicDont you think the default KDM is too pale?02:47
Jucatoopticyclic: which part02:47
tanakaBluesKaj: kde didn't load after reboot02:48
opticycliclet me dig up a screenshot02:48
Jucatoopticyclic: #ubuntu-artwork02:48
Jucatoopticyclic: no need for a screenshot. just w/c part of the screen?02:48
Jucatobecause the background is the same as the wallpaper, and so is the logo02:48
ardchoilleopticyclic: It has to be kinda "bland", otherwise you'd have to appeal to everyone and I don't think millions of wallpapers would fit in the kde release02:48
BluesKajok tanaka , did you try the startx command at the prompt ?02:48
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BluesKajor startkde02:49
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tanakaBluesKaj: startx worked just after the install(before restart)02:49
Jucatotanaka: any reason you don't want to use the packaged nvidia drivers?02:49
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opticyclicOK here is an example of it being too pale http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/scaled/Kubuntu%207.10%20Alpha%201/3.gif02:50
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BluesKajtanaka, so what is the pc doing in right now ?02:51
ardchoilleopticyclic: Ok, you know you can grab one of the gdm themes in /usr/share/gdm/themes and change the colours or images, right?02:51
rjune__Is there a repository for "testing" packages?02:51
BluesKajerr doing right now02:51
Jucatoopticyclic: I still can't see what is too pail02:51
Jucatopale02:51
Jucatorjune__: what do you mean by "testing"02:52
tanakaJucato: i think the latest 100.14.9 is still not packaged02:52
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rjune__Jucato: I mean a repository for stuff that is unstable, but should probably work02:52
Jucato!backports02:52
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging02:52
ardchoillerjune__: I think the closest thing would be backports02:52
tanakaBluesKaj: I reinstalled the system02:52
BluesKajrjune__, search here : http://www.google.com/linux02:52
opticycliccompare it to this screenshot http://amitshah.bizhat.com/images/kde-3.5alpha1.png02:52
opticyclicit is much more of a bolder blue02:53
Jucatorjune__: but Ubuntu doesn't have the stable/testing/unstable setup of Debian.02:53
DJServers!theme02:53
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DJServers!changethemes02:53
ubotuTo change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.02:53
Jucatoopticyclic: I believe you are not comparing the kdm theme. you are comparing wallpapers02:53
ardchoilleopticyclic: That's what I meant, you can easily make your own themes and wallpapers02:53
rjune__I was hoping to find prebuilt packages of egroupware. I'm assuming that major revs don't get bumped during a release, ya?02:54
Jucatorjune__: if they do get bumped, they either end up in -updates or most probably -backports.02:54
Jucatobut that's not an absolute02:54
zipperdamn02:54
opticyclicI couldn't find a KDM theme screenshot, but the colours in those two are a comparison02:54
zipperwine has become pretty nice02:54
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opticyclicI think Kubuntu needs a bolder default theme to impress new users02:55
Jucatoopticyclic: besides, that's not pale blue. that's purple. it was meant to be that way, not pale blue02:55
Jucatoyou can argue all you want in #ubuntu-artwork if you want. good luck02:55
Jucato(bluish purple)02:55
opticyclicis there a kubuntu artwork?02:55
ardchoillelol02:55
BluesKajI just use a pic of a painting done by my great uncle on the family farm, as wallpaper no need for penguins to remind me I'm using linux02:56
Jucatowould I have given you #ubuntu-artwork if there's a #kubuntu-artwork?02:56
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opticyclic:-[02:56
Jucato(and I've given it twice...)02:56
rowenthedarkHow does one change the mounted drive icons. IE why dont i have permision?02:57
Jucato!irc | opticyclic02:57
ubotuopticyclic: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines02:57
BluesKajall this gnasshing of teeth over the colour purple :)02:57
Jucatoopticyclic: there's a list of IRC channels ^^^02:57
rowenthedarkopticyclic: Thank you02:57
rjune__Jucato: thanks.02:57
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BluesKajthe forgot to include #tovid02:58
Jucatoinclude it where?02:59
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BluesKajin th freenode list02:59
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Jucatoheh not my concern :P03:00
BluesKajI know03:00
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BluesKaj:)03:00
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BluesKajjust tried safari for windows ... very plainjane , but very fast too03:00
ubunturoskonqueror might be faster ;)03:01
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Jucatoexcept that it doesn't exist for windows, so the argument is moot :)03:02
BluesKajbeen trying to figure out a way to get wife off windows but since her fav Solitaire game isn't available in Linux i was wondeing if the exe file will run in wine without a windows parition ?03:03
pawitpAlot of things run in wine without a windows partition03:03
agn0sticBluesKaj: What solitaire game?  Like a really specific solitare game03:03
BluesKajyes03:03
BluesKajhang on03:03
pawitpI'd think using a windows partition is really opsolete03:04
ardchoillepawitp: Including windows viruses, trojans, worms, etc.03:04
Jucatopawitp: huh? wine never required a windows partition, ever.03:04
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pawitpLong ago it needed alot of win98 libs03:04
pawitpand it's best run with a win98 partition03:04
pawitpardchoille: Why would you want to run those? Alot will fail though since holes in windows usually doesn't exists in wine03:05
BluesKajyeah, It's the Goodsol development CD with "Pretty Good Solitaire"03:05
ardchoillepawitp: Wanna bet? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7259803:05
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ardchoillepawitp: Here's another :)  http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=14603:06
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rowenthedarkHello again. I would like to change my drive icons, but kde says i dont have permission. How would I go about this?03:06
BluesKajpawitp, since we still need to deal with foreign country documentation for me and the kids etc we need a scanning app that works properly and kooka doesn't have the adjustments to make good existing copies of those documents .03:08
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BluesKajhence: the windows partiton , mainly for scanning03:08
BluesKajand our friend to the south (mr bush) i making it more difficult to cross the border03:10
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pawitpBluesKaj: I thought you're talking about windows partition for wine03:13
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JuJuBeeI need some help recompiling squid.  I know what options I need, but never recompiled something to install.  I have always used precompiled binaries.03:19
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sitohellow?03:35
sitoa programa similar of spacemonger for linux?03:35
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Tm_Tsito: how about telling us what this "spacemonger" does?03:35
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ardchoillesito: What does it do?03:35
Jucatowhat is spacemonger? :)03:36
sitommm03:36
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sitohttp://www.sixty-five.cc/sm/v1x.php03:37
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ardchoillesito: There is a file manager that does that, but I can't remember the name. Perhaps: apt-cache search file manager03:37
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sitook!!03:39
sitokdirstat!!03:39
sitothis name is kdirstat :D03:39
Jucatosito: actually, Konqueror already has that feature built-in03:39
JucatoView menu -> View Mode -> File Size View03:39
ardchoilleThere are others too, there are also 3d file managers.. one of them lays out the fs like a universe and you can "fly" through it :)03:40
Jucatothen there's even Filelight for fancier effects03:40
Jucato!filelight03:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about filelight - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:40
Jucatoer.. sorry...03:40
Jucato!info filelight03:40
ardchoilleJucato: fileflight is the one I was thinking of03:40
ubotufilelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB03:40
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Tm_TJucato: actually after installing filelight, Konqueror has tha viewmode too ;)03:40
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JucatoTm_T: yes. but I discovered one peculiarity...03:41
Tm_Tyes?03:41
Jucatobut it's an advanced setup so it's not biggie03:41
rowenthedarkI am back I told the desktop configure to not display devices, yet my hard disk mounts are still visible why?03:41
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JucatoTm_T: btw, it seems that my telco doesn't allow some internet services through gprs... like IRC :(03:42
Tm_Trowenthedark: harddisk is not device in that sense I think03:42
Tm_TJucato: haha =)03:42
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sitoula03:42
Tm_TJucato: cut ports?03:42
JucatoTm_T: someone told me of SSH... but since I don't know how... I'm putting it off until the next time I need it :)03:42
rowenthedarktm_t is there a way to make them go away besides unmounting them?03:42
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Tm_TJucato: well, I can do ssh account to my system, so you just log in and run irssi here03:43
Tm_Trowenthedark: not showing icons at all?03:43
Tm_Trowenthedark: or, look other options, dunno03:43
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Jucatorowenthedark: uncheck the Mounted Hard Disk Volume, click Apply, then uncheck the Show device icons.03:43
Jucatothat's all in the right-click Configure Desktop -> Behavior options -> Device Icons tab03:44
rowenthedarkjucato: still there.03:44
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JucatoTm_T: quick question about that ssh.. does that mean I need to have my desktop up and running too?03:45
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JucatoTm_T: so that I would have to SSH into my desktop to be able to IRC on my laptop?03:45
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Tm_TJucato: err, well, you need ssh server running in server end03:45
Jucatopft... :(03:45
Jucatonot an option then...03:45
Tm_TJucato: well, as said, I can add account in my pc03:46
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Jucatohehe thanks. but I'll try to find an alternative first. :)03:46
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Jucatowhen I'm desperate again... :)03:46
Tm_TJucato: but gprs is hell slow with ssh, you know, 1-10 second delay with typing etc03:46
rowenthedarkI guess i could unmount and remount maybe.03:47
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Tm_Trowenthedark: worth of trying03:47
JucatoTm_T: definitely faster than CGI IRC.. plus I would be able to connect here :)03:47
Tm_Thaha03:47
Tm_Ttrue03:47
Jucatoand GPRS is better than no internet at all :)03:47
Jucatobut just you wait, once I get this wireless card fixed...03:47
Tm_Tdefinately03:47
Tm_TJucato: well, I was with gprs almost two months03:47
Tm_Tand wasn't first time it was my only connection03:48
rowenthedarkTm_T: it isnt mounted by hal so unmount doesnt work.03:48
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Tm_Thm03:49
Tm_Trowenthedark: use umount from shell03:49
rowenthedarkTm_T: what is the syntax of it?03:49
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Tm_Trowenthedark: umount /device or /mountpoint03:50
Tm_Trowenthedark: umount --help ;)03:50
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rowenthedarkTm_T: icons are still there03:54
Tm_Tfun03:54
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rowenthedarkTm_T: I know03:54
rowenthedarkTm_T: Oh well.03:55
Tm_Tglad I don't need desktop icons <303:55
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BluesKaj<--- old windows user ...I need 'em03:56
JucatoTm_T: maybe you'll be using "icons" once aseigo's plans for Plasma are fulfilled :)03:56
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rowenthedarkTm_T: weird seems the icons are physical drive representations.03:58
JucatoBluesKaj: Plasma is a sort of rethinking of the old desktop metaphor, which includes desktop icons. iirc, he wants to make them more dynamic and add other stuff03:58
BluesKajmust be talking about games again, eh Jucato ?03:58
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Jucatohe's not a fan of the existing implementation of desktop icons either03:59
JucatoBluesKaj: what in the world are you talking about?03:59
BluesKajerr dynamic is a word that is used in many contexts...03:59
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Jucatowell it's all pretty vague at the moment03:59
BluesKajJucato, i thot Plasma was a game03:59
Jucatoagain,  what in the world are you talking about? ;)04:00
BluesKajdon't ask me why either :)04:00
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BluesKajyeah, maybe too04:00
BluesKajis there a newsletter ?04:01
Jucatohttp://dot.kde.org04:01
Tm_TJucato: I won't04:01
^RiaN^gunbound on linux04:01
JucatoTm_T: who knows... I'm not a desktop icon user myself, but who knows... :)04:01
Tm_TJucato: I won't04:02
Jucatooh well... time to go back to reality :)04:02
Jucatook ok, I get the message :)04:02
Tm_TJucato: I won't04:02
Jucatohmph04:03
Jucatoanyway, I'm gone04:03
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Tm_TJucato: I wooooooooowww04:03
Jucatobot script not working properly? :)04:03
Tm_Tok, now it's settled04:03
Tm_Tscript?04:03
Tm_TI'm not a script!04:03
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markoubotu,04:06
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hendra11279hi all04:07
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hendra11279i have problem with stellarium in kubuntu feisty,i can't read the text ,the text write in symbol like this --.----. can anyone help me ?pls04:09
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ubuntu__hey04:13
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zipperanyone know where to find a wine help channel?04:22
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zipperor have anyone inhere had any luck with running the Overlord Demo in wine?04:22
rowenthedarkYay, They went away.04:22
zipperwhat? The voices in my head? No, they're still there.04:23
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Jucatozipper: #winehq04:23
zipperthx04:24
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Dr_willisHmm - heres a sick idea...    wine SafariSetup.exe04:24
Dr_willis:) lets see if it works.04:24
rowenthedarkHehehe04:24
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Dr_willisI never have figured out how they benchmark browsers to show they are 'faster' then others...04:25
Dr_willisFaster downloading? faster just rendering? faster at getting the porn?04:25
rowenthedarkOkay, here's a dumb question. Why is it on my desktop that windows always has memory read errors, but linux never does?04:25
jzillabecuase04:26
Dr_willisrowenthedark,  hmm.. ya may want to open up the pc, dust it out, reseat the memory, and run that memorytest progtram from the grub entry for a few hrs to test the mem.04:26
jzillalinux >04:26
rowenthedarkDr_willis: Not a bad idea thanks.04:26
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rowenthedarkAlso I never noticed how hard it can be to customize a desktop like KDE.04:28
Dr_willisDarn the SafariSetup.exe Hung.04:28
rowenthedark:( sniff04:28
Dr_willisCustomize in what way?04:28
Jucato!changethemes | rowenthedark04:28
uboturowenthedark: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.04:28
Dr_williskde has a lot of features that are accessed with various config files., then ya could alwyas just change the windowmanater04:28
Dr_williswindowmanager04:29
rowenthedarkAdd stuff, like karamba, beryl, change the way things behave. Must be 5000 things you can change in there.04:29
Jucatowell, beryl isn't exactly KDE, so that's a different topic...04:29
rowenthedarkYeah, but that was the easiest.04:29
Dr_williswell beryl is still a work in progress..04:30
Jucatoabout superkaramba, it's all about finding the theme that performs properly04:30
Dr_willisand Karamba is considered.. well..  i wont say. :)04:30
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rowenthedarkOh can anybody think of why I have to enable networking on my primary account (GNOME) for it to work in KDE?04:30
Dr_willisberyl has so many options in its control panel thing. its scary.04:30
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Dr_willisrowenthedark,  wireless?04:30
rowenthedarkDr_willis: Yes.04:31
Dr_willisNo idea there. :) ive given up on wireless. heh.. for now.04:31
Dr_willistheres proberly the kde wireless tools you need to configure.04:31
Dr_willisat leat it works in gnome for ya.  So thats a good sign.04:31
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rowenthedarkDr_willis: I would have too, but my wireless works pretty well out of the box, just like beryl.04:32
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MinatakuHeya, Dr_willis04:32
rowenthedark<-- remembers broadcom wireless hell.04:32
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MinatakuHeh, I'm lucky enough to have a computer old enough to have a completely wide-open wireless chipset04:32
MinatakuSpecifically, orinoco_cs04:33
Dr_willisrowenthedark,  im suprised at the statement "beryl/wireless  + works pretty well " :)04:33
FSHeroardchoille: A belated (by 2 hours) thanks for the answer.04:33
MinatakuIn-kernel driver, fully open-source, fully open-spec, never a problem whatsoever.04:33
Dr_willisHay Minataku. :)04:33
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MinatakuBut then my computer is from around 200304:33
rowenthedarkdr willis: I installed and everything came up right away. I was suprised.04:33
Dr_willisMinataku,  its just so old it only does Wep? :)04:33
MinatakuDr_willis: Bingo04:34
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MinatakuNone of this WPA bullcrap04:34
MinatakuWhich is also completely trivial to crack04:34
Dr_willisMinataku,  I got a similer thing..  My router has a 'block based on MAC' - wonder how safe that is.04:34
rowenthedarkBut can't wep be sniffed?04:34
Minatakurowenthedark: ANY signal transmitted via radio can be sniffed04:34
FSHeroMinataku: so, does that mean that even the best security system for wireless networks is insecure?04:34
Dr_willisPerhaps the wireless-N cards will get their acts together.04:35
MinatakuFor that matter, any signal transmitted via WIRE can be sniffed04:35
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rowenthedarkWireless N Hahahahahaha04:35
Dr_willishaxor the Pomeriannai!04:35
MinatakuWiretapping has the advantage of requiring physical access to the actual line04:35
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MinatakuAs for sniffing wireless, all you need to do is be close enough to the area04:35
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MinatakuRemember, radio signals radiate out more or less spherically04:36
rowenthedarkAnd linux happens to have the tools. :)04:36
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MinatakuAs long as you have all the equipment within this sphere, you can access it given proper tools04:36
c1|freakysomeone knows how to install a console font which is allready in /usr/share/consolefonts ? i want to install the matrix font for cmatrix04:36
rowenthedarkKind of makes me paranoid about my wireless security.04:37
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Minatakurowenthedark: When I get my own place, no wireless.04:37
ardchoilleFSHero: You're welcome :)04:37
Dr_willisMinataku,  that reminds me. Seen any easy to build wirless antannas  - directional. got a friend with 2 houses about 300 ft apart he wants to set up a wireless network on.04:37
MinatakuI've already made that decision.04:37
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MinatakuDr_willis: Can style04:37
Dr_willisMinataku,  or any decent antanas allready made/kits.04:37
MinatakuSimilar to a satellite dish04:37
Dr_willisYea. cantannas would be good.   glue a laser pointer to the top. :) let him aim at each other.04:37
MinatakuYep04:38
MinatakuThat should do it04:38
andrineed help!! how to install mp3 codec in kubuntu feisty?04:38
rowenthedarkHmmmm.... Then again there are a HUGE number of people who dont even protect thier wireless network.04:38
andrii'm newbie04:38
Dr_willisHes a 'perfectionist' freak however. so he wants somthing that looks good.04:38
MinatakuRadio not my field of Comp Eng Tech, but I know that much about it04:38
Dr_willis!mp304:38
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:38
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MinatakuDr_willis: Then suggest only the ugliest possible solutions04:38
Dr_willisMinataku,  hes been websurfing and finding all these business style solutions.. he cant underatand he just needs 2 decent antannas.04:39
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MinatakuThat's not "perfectionism" that's someone who's idiotically attached to asthetics04:39
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rowenthedarkhehehe04:39
ardchoillelol04:39
MinatakuFunction over form. No exceptions.04:39
andrithanks ubotu04:39
MinatakuMake it work well first and foremost.04:39
MinatakuOnce that's done, then you can make it look good04:39
Dr_willisMinataku,  speaking of Function over form.. Tried to 'wine Safarisetup.exe' :) it dident work.04:39
MinatakuProvided it doesn't interfere with function04:40
soulriderandri: ubotu is a bot, no need to thank him, you can give him a snack though04:40
rowenthedark:( Sniff04:40
soulrider!botsnack04:40
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!04:40
ardchoillehahahaha04:40
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soulriderit has a sense of humor too :P04:40
ardchoilleI don't blame him, yum sucks04:40
MinatakuDr_willis: I'm sure he can just make a cantenna then mold around it some kind of housing04:40
rowenthedark!yum04:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:40
Minataku!anything04:40
rowenthedarkWhat is yum?04:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:40
MinatakuI can teh defeat teh bot04:41
MinatakuX304:41
soulrideryum is red hats package management or suses04:41
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soulrideri cant really remember04:41
rowenthedarkOh.04:41
ardchoillerowenthedark: yum is a (very slow) package manager04:41
MinatakuHooray for invisible control characters :304:41
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rowenthedarkSo many config options. :(04:41
Jucatosoulrider: RH's04:41
rowenthedarkI'm going to be here for weeks.04:41
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balajihow to create iso image of a CD in kubuntu04:42
Dr_willisMinataku,  yea. its going to be sitting in his Kitchen window however. :)04:42
MinatakuDr_willis: Find any suitable boxes? Those calculators? Other awesome "junk"?04:42
Dr_willisMinataku,  found the calculators. Several Ti's04:42
MinatakuDr_willis: In that case, find an old metal trash can >:D04:42
ardchoillebalaji: mksiofs is what you're after. Perhaps man mkisofs will give you some clues04:42
MinatakuDr_willis: Sweet! Models? :D04:42
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rowenthedark<-is through whining about it now.04:42
Dr_willisfound my old hp 28s - you cant have it. :) i survived college with it. heh heh..04:42
MinatakuDr_willis: Heehee, sentimental value, I understand :304:43
Dr_willisMinataku,  so far i think 3 of them are the same as that other TI i told ya .. One is some RadioShack. other is a ti99 or somthing. LCD. so its newer04:43
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MinatakuCool04:43
Dr_willisI though i had some HP's but cant find them.04:43
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MinatakuWell, if you have them near or when you get a chance, PM me the model numbers and I'll look 'em up04:43
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Dr_willisYea. they were the same Model # i mentioned last week. 3 identical Calculators.04:44
MinatakuThat way I can drool over pictures of them instead of all over them... XD04:44
Dr_willisthen the 2 cheaper ones. Heh heh.04:44
MinatakuBy the time they arrive I should be out of drool X304:44
Dr_willisWife is still recovering. So ive not been out the the garrage yet.  ya need the Scsi Cable for that mac scsi drive?04:45
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MinatakuYeah, I will04:45
Dr_willisnot sure which one IS the scsi cable. :) its in a box.. Guess i will look and see what fits.04:45
Dr_willisthey look much different from a serial cable heh.04:45
MinatakuI'ma look into writing a program on my A/UX machine to maybe see if I can't harass via ioctls the FDC to write Amiga-class floppies04:45
MinatakuIt's MFM, it's just incredibly tight04:45
andrineed help again... i have installed both compiz and beryl... but it always crashes when i run it04:45
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MinatakuThe standard PC FDC can't write to them because it's way too tight on the media04:46
Dr_willisMinataku,  heh.  Ive always wanted one of those Wildcat controller cards that can use all the old floppy disks.04:46
Dr_willisMinataku,  but Thats overkill.04:46
MinatakuBut now that I know it's still regular old MFM, I can see if I can coerce either the Quadra 650 or one of my Suns to write Amiga floppies04:46
Dr_willisI do Thibnk i have some old MFM hard drives somewhere. real real old.04:47
MinatakuDr_willis: Awesome04:47
Dr_willisI wast hinking that apple/macs could read the amiga floppies somehow.04:47
MinatakuI _believe_ that the Suns have a different FDC than PCs04:47
Dr_willisI also need to test out the Reading of the amiga hard drives under linux.04:47
MinatakuDr_willis: Technically, a PC _could_ read them04:47
MinatakuAmiga floppies are MFM, not GCR04:47
Dr_willisThats how i was going to transfer floppies over.. DMS them onthe amiga to its HD. then usbcable the hd to pc.04:47
MinatakuPC floppies are also MFM, as are 1.44MB Mac floppies04:48
Dr_williswe need s Geos64 theme for kde. :)04:48
MinatakuThe only ones to use GCR were the Mac 400 and 80004:48
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Dr_willisill stick with emulators. :) less desk space.04:49
Jucato!offtopic04:49
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:49
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MinatakuAs a matter of fact, it could be possible to force the drive to do it via Linux04:49
balajihi blueskaj04:49
MinatakuThough the Amiga used MFM, the format places sectors too close together for a standard IBM PC compatible floppy disk controller to read (appearing as one 5632-byte physical sector per track).04:49
Dr_willis is it possible to run Konqeror on OS-X ?  Saw they got Safari for windows.04:50
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BluesKajhi balaji04:50
MinatakuThat would be the "intersector gap"04:50
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Dr_willisonce ya get Minataku  started on hardware........... :)04:50
MinatakuHowever, if a floppy is formatted with a too small inter sector gap, perfor-       mance may drop, up to needing a few seconds to access an entire track.04:50
ardchoilleYeah, he won't shut up, lol04:50
MinatakuTheoretically, Linux CAN write Amiga floppies... it'll just be incredibly slow04:50
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balajiblueskaj:i somehow formatted the drive and installed ubuntu 7.0404:50
BluesKajI've tried qemu and virtual box with no luck at all ...too thick headed to understand how to make them work04:51
Dr_willisIts just amazing when ya look at the pc's we used to have..  and what we got now a days.04:51
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Dr_willisvirtualbox is rather straight forwared.04:51
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Dr_willisive had issues with it and livecd's however.04:51
BluesKajcool balaji ...hows it running for you ?04:51
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MinatakuI could try to use ufiformat, edit the source and such... that'd be pretty slick, but I'd have to wait for the Amigas to arrive to test it XD04:52
balajifine but the thing is i've got kubuntu 6.10 and windows on my laptop harddrive04:52
BluesKajwell Dr_willis , I guess i just don't "get it " :)04:52
soulriderBluesKaj: vmware is very easy to use!04:52
balajiand the cpu always ries to boot from the USB04:52
balajiso gives me a bootloader error 2104:52
Dr_willisBlueEagle,  run virtual box, make a new machine, slect the hardware, give it an .iso file for the cdrom, and power it up04:53
BluesKajsoulrider, maybe easy to use , but installation never seems to work04:53
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soulriderBluesKaj:  really? i never had problems with it04:53
Dr_willisthe current vmware - had some issues under ubuntu. Not sure if the packages have been fixed by now or not.04:53
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soulrideryeah Dr_willis i think it does have some issues with feisty04:54
BluesKajbully for you soulrider ...dunno , just never seems to install...there's always a prob04:54
soulridermy friend managed to install it though... and hes a total linux newbie04:54
BluesKajbully for your friend too :)04:54
Dr_willissoulrider,  there was some updated/tweak on the vmware forums i recall. :)04:55
soulriderare you sure you have the kernel headers and stuff ?04:55
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Dr_willisbbl..04:56
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MinatakuLet's try this and pray I don't blow out my FDD XD04:59
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jobezone Hi, does kopete 0.12.4 (kubuntu 7.04) have suport for webcam with the msn protocol?05:04
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zipperjobezone, havent tested, but yeah, there are buttons for webcam stuff05:06
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MinatakuDamn05:06
zipperjobezone, i think05:06
zipperjobezone, let me see05:06
jobezoneyeah, I see them.05:06
Minataku"Protocol error"05:06
MinatakuI need to pull out the machine with the real FDD I think05:07
jobezonebut they just don't work :) I'm trying aMSN now.05:07
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zipperjobezone, "MSN supports the sending and receiving of webcams, if your camera is supported by the Video4Linux 2 (v4l2) standard. "05:08
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jobezonehmm..05:08
jobezoneI wonder if it's a port thing, then05:08
jobezonethe webcam works great in the configuration dialog.05:09
SlicerDicer-ping05:09
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pgquilesRiddell: ping05:12
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Zs_262hi05:14
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pbnHello, I'm having severe issues with kppp on Kubuntu 6.06 LTS. Does any of you folks have the same kind of problem ?05:15
pbnwell basically pppd crashes everytime it is called by kppp ... could that be a problem in Ubuntu 6.06 ?05:15
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linux_crdlb: you still there dude?05:15
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linux_after rebooting linux i lost the window task bars again05:19
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linux_and only dragable way to move windows then is with alt n drab05:19
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ardchoillelinux_: You in kde?05:19
balajipbn do u use a wireless modem?05:19
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linux_grab05:19
linux_yea05:19
ardchoillelinux_: Oh, you mean the titlebar05:19
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linux_yea05:19
linux_crdlb had me to do a apt-get command and got them back with beryl working05:19
linux_every time i run beryl they go.05:19
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jobezoneafter opening the TCP+UDP port range of 17669-17679 , aMSN works with the webcam.. still haven't tested with kopete05:25
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MinatakuHrm!05:29
Minataku"Double-sided, 80 tracks, 11 sec/track. Total capacity 880kB."05:29
MinatakuAnd it seems to be working05:30
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MinatakuVerification partially failed05:30
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Ronnindoes anyone have any suggestions as to why HALD whould hang for a long time, eventually fail, then setup just hang afterward?  I am using a board with a SIS650 chipset running from known good CD05:33
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jbrouhardheh05:33
jbrouhardi see kopete hasn't been fixed ;)05:33
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MinatakuHm... it seems to be able to format them... theoretically... I'll have to test out the Mac with this05:35
MinatakuSee if it's FDC can't properly write such05:35
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Dr_willisMinataku,  well one of the calculators is a Ti-30 :) . still looking for that scsi cable.. I keep finding OTHER things to  put in their right places..05:36
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Dr_willisMinataku,  Found a bunch of C64 software stillin the original box. :) and some C64 cartriges heh05:37
frojndhello there, does ubuntu has any game for two players to play agains each other?05:37
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Dr_willisfrojnd,  depends on the kind of game ya want.05:37
Daisuke_Idofrojnd: there are a lot...  armagetron is classic05:37
frojndDr_willis: hm, like bombermam05:37
Dr_willisTheres a biplane game that i like. 2d = old skool05:38
frojndDr_willis: hm, like cars05:38
Dr_willis!find bomberman05:38
ubotuPackage/file bomberman does not exist in feisty05:38
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Dr_willisTheres a bomberman clone out. But i dont rember its name05:38
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MinatakuDr_willis: Cool05:38
Dr_willisMinataku,  if you want/need C64 stuff that is. :)05:39
MinatakuDr_willis: The PC FDC truly won't handle Amiga floppies, it just won't be corerced into it05:39
frojndDr_willis: any cars for two ?05:39
MinatakuDr_willis: Is it still shrinkwrapped?05:39
MinatakuIf not, toss it05:39
MinatakuXD05:39
frojndDr_willis: like need for speed: porsche ?05:39
Dr_willisMinataku,  a lot of the games are. some Geos software also. the Cartridiges are not however.05:40
ubuntumonkey island?05:40
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Dr_willisalso found about 200lb of amiga tech/programming books.05:40
Dr_willis:)05:40
MinatakuHeh05:40
MinatakuIt's a constant battle between awesome stuff and prohibitive shipping costs XD05:40
Dr_williswhich reminds of my lifelong  goal in learning C.. then realizing that I dont need to learn C to do what i need.05:41
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Dr_willisMinataku,  the stuff aint going anywhere here.. other then into better sorted box's heh.05:41
Dr_willisI may drag out a C64 however. :) i can Multi-task the monitor  so it wont take up much space/05:41
MinatakuHeehee05:42
Dr_willisI rember why i love the SmallFormFactor pc's but i never can actually USE one.05:42
MinatakuIf you're willing to send a C64 and parts, that's fine by me XD05:43
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marckiehello!05:47
marckiea newbie here...05:47
marckieim using kubuntu!05:47
marckie!ntfs05:47
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:47
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marckie!mount05:47
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter05:47
MinatakuI think I'll go boot up Sasuke, see if I can't play around with the floppy ioctls05:47
Tm_T!botabuse05:47
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...05:47
Tm_T<305:47
MinatakuTwo commands is hardly abuse :P05:47
Tm_Tit's not05:47
Dr_willis!elvis05:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about elvis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:47
Tm_Tbut better to warn before it goes to that point05:47
Dr_williswell back to the Garrage...05:47
Dr_willisbbl05:47
Minataku!anything05:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:47
MinatakuMwahahaha05:47
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Tm_TMinataku: krhm05:47
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MinatakuI just did that one, I have more important things to deal with05:47
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Tm_T;)05:47
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MinatakuGonna boot up my Mac and see if I can't coerce it into writing Amiga floppies05:47
Minataku<3 A/UX05:47
Tm_TMinataku: have fun (:05:47
soulrideramiga floppies? =/05:47
soulriderisnt that like.. ancient ?05:47
ubuntuwow.....05:47
Tm_Tsoulrider: I am ancient05:47
Tm_Tamiga isn't05:47
ubuntu:) no way05:47
ubuntuchick fila time....have fun with your mac!05:47
MinatakuzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ05:48
Tm_Tanything with floppies cant be ancient05:48
MinatakuMan, that HDD is loud05:48
Tm_TMinataku: hug it05:48
Tm_TMinataku: talk nicely05:48
MinatakuThat won't help05:49
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MinatakuIt'll still sound like a buzzsaw05:49
Tm_Tyou didn't do it from your heart05:49
Minataku:P05:49
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Tm_TI might like to have some fooooood ->05:49
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Daisuke_Idoi want to go through and find out what's making all the noise in my pc.  the 80mm case fans are probably a big part of it...  perhaps replacing the rear exhaust fan with a 120mm would help...05:50
MinatakuI'll just let A/UX sit at the login screen for now05:50
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dennis___hi everybody, i just installed ubuntu dapper, advised by a friend of mine, and got things working allright, but when using SKYPE i found out that my microphone doesn't work, but I can hear the people at the other end, solution????05:51
marckiechange your microphone i guess...05:52
eagles0513875!aptfix05:52
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:52
marckiewow!05:52
marckie!repositories05:53
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:53
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Minatakudennis___: Try to convince your friend that he's gone deaf05:54
MinatakuOr even better, crazy05:54
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MinatakuNext time you see him IRL, move your mouth like you're talking but say nothing05:55
marckiehahahaha... hilarious...05:55
marckielol!05:55
MinatakuGet a couple other friends to do it, not all of them, just one or two05:55
MinatakuThe rest talks to him as usual05:55
marckie!nvidia05:56
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:56
MinatakuEven more better, switch off every couple days who talks and who doesn't05:56
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MinatakuIf he doesn't think he's crazy, damnit, he will be05:56
MinatakuXD05:56
marckiehahaha... nice one there mina05:57
dennis___sorry, thought i could get some help here but it's a playground obviously, bye05:57
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ardchoilleTm_T: May I pm you?05:57
marckieanyhows, it might be possible that his mike really is busted...05:57
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Tm_Tardchoille: why would you do that?05:58
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marckiehey...05:58
ardchoilleTm_T: I thought you were an op here.05:59
MinatakuNot my problem that someone can't take a joke05:59
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Tm_Tardchoille: sure you can msg me, but if it's about administration of this channel, #ubuntu-ops is for that05:59
ardchoilleTm_T: Ah, ok05:59
Minatakumarckie: I was gonna get to the fact that his mixer probably muted the mike06:00
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MinatakuIf it's anything like my system, every time I reboot I have to reset the volume06:00
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Roeyhi all06:00
Roeyis "ntfs" as it shows up in the output to 'mount'  ntfs-ng?06:00
RoeyI'm running kubuntu 7.0406:00
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MinatakuRoey: I believe that's just what the fs is mounted as06:01
Roeyalso, is there a wya to install Kubuntu 7.04 without the splash screen?  It crashes KVM06:01
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RoeyMinataku:  well there are three drivers for NT though06:01
marckieminataku... well he did not get the joke...06:02
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RoeyMinataku:  the standard NTFS ones (which are basically read-only), the Captive drivers, and NTFS-ng06:02
marckiehe's probably very frustrated...06:02
Minatakumarckie: Obviously X306:02
marckiebeen there...06:02
MinatakuOver a microphone?06:02
marckieyeah...06:02
Roeyit's a joke?06:02
MinatakuRoey: No, no06:02
marckiesome people are so naive...06:02
MinatakuTalking about something else06:02
Roeyok06:02
Roeyaye.06:02
BearcatFolks, i will be working on someone else's computer tonight. They have no internet  access at the moment, so i'd like to ask for tips now.  I'm very familiar with linux, but not debian based distros themselves.  When i try to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 using the alternate CD it seems my /var/lib/dpgk/available file is incorrect. It has a problem with a status field. How can i regen that file?06:02
marckiesorry Roey, I was also talking to Minataku...06:02
MinatakuRoey: I've never used any of them, TBH06:02
RoeyBearcat:  good luck with getting a straight answer :)06:03
MinatakuSo I can't help you06:03
Roeythanks anyway06:03
marckieby the way, im still new in using Kubuntu... (ubuntu that is)06:03
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MinatakuRoey: Hang around, though06:04
marckieI was used to using Suse... until they slept with the enemy... huhuhuhu...06:04
Minataku!ntfs-3g06:04
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions06:04
RoeyMinataku:  oh, ok06:04
MinatakuMaybe try that, too06:04
Roeythanks06:04
Roeythat's what I was looking for06:04
Roeyntfs-306:04
Roey*3g06:04
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marckieWell, with my experience i still suggest using Fat32 for file sharing between dual booting systems..06:05
BearcatRoey: that bad huh?06:05
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marckieits safer... trust me...06:05
MinatakuRoey: np06:05
MinatakuNTFS is barely stable in Windows06:05
RoeyMinataku:  but ntfs3g is different06:06
Roeyaiui06:06
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MinatakuIt's still not 100% safe06:06
Roeymarckie:  "its safer...trust me..." <-- famous last words eh? :)06:06
MinatakuSince I'm pretty much positive that MS sticks little traps into NTFS to nuke it if Windows isn't what's writing to it06:06
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RoeyMinataku:  ha ha ha06:07
MinatakuOf course, MS steps on their own landmines as a result06:07
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BearcatRoey: i was doing an upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 and a few packages wouldn't upgrade. So i said, "let's try the 6.10 to 7.04".  The error i'm seeing is parse error near line 2 package 'python-libxml2" value for 'status' field not allowed in this context. The value in that status field is "install reintreq halt-installed"06:07
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RoeyBearcat:  hmm.  (Have you tried #ubuntu for that matter, then?)06:08
BearcatRoey: also there are odd chacters strwen through out the file, which look like binary info so i suspect a corruupted file.06:08
BearcatRoey: nope. I suppose this isn06:08
marckiehey minataku... what videocard are you using?06:08
BearcatRoey: isnt' kubuntu specific though.06:08
RoeyBearcat:  I think that #ubuntu holds more experts06:08
marckieIm using nvidia and im wondering how i can install its drivers...06:09
BearcatRoey: thanks06:09
ardchoille!nvidia06:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:09
marckiei want to install beryl after that...06:09
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BearcatRoey: are you insinuating some thing about KDE users? :P06:09
marckieim lost with the: System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager.06:09
Minatakumarckie: A Trident POC06:10
MinatakuPiece Of Crap06:10
MinatakuX306:10
marckiehahahaha... Old school...06:10
Daisuke_Idomarckie: that's because those instructions are for ubuntu06:10
RoeyBearcat:  oh nonono not at all, gnome sucks/kde rocks06:10
Roeycompletely06:10
marckieAhhh... I see...06:10
MinatakuThis laptop is from 200306:10
BearcatRoey: cool.06:10
marckieSo where's it in Kubuntu?06:10
Daisuke_Idomarckie: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx06:10
RoeyBearcat:  I'm just saying I think #ubuntu, being the original channel, proabbly has more experts06:10
RoeyBearcat:  (between you and me and the rest of this IRC channel, I can't stand GNOME)06:11
Bearcat*nods*06:11
Roeyor GTK for that matter.06:11
marckieno i dont think so... though im new...06:11
RoeyPity that I still use GAIM, GIMP, and X-Chat06:11
marckieis there a GUI in installing nvidia?06:11
BearcatRoey: yeah. I just wish gtk wasn't the default for most stuff.06:11
marckieif that's possible in Ubuntu that is...06:11
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RoeyBearcat:  ahh06:12
Bearcatmarckie: it's called nvidia-settings06:12
marckieI think there could be the same in kubuntu...06:12
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ardchoillemarckie: I feel it would be a waste of a gui. Installing nvidia drivers took me two commands and restarting x and it was done.06:12
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BearcatRoey: it makes me wonder if there are more C programmers then C++ programmers.06:12
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marckieyeah... I see...06:12
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marckieIm campaigning Linux (Kubuntu to be specific) to my Window$ user friends...06:13
RoeyBearcat:  I dispensed with them both and moved to Python ;)06:13
marckieso im looking for the easiest way for them06:13
BearcatRoey: pffft. Be a real hacker and write your stuff in COBOL06:14
marckieI think they would probably fear the Console... hehehe...06:14
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FSHeroThis is odd... I had two samba shares mounted, and I couldn't unmount the first share I mounted until I unmounted the second one!06:14
FSHeroIs that meant to happen?06:14
RoeyBearcat:  ha!!06:14
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RoeyBearcat:  btw, I like your English.  Where are you?06:14
BearcatRoey: Montana, USA06:15
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RoeyBearcat:  oh, understood then06:15
RoeyBearcat:  I'm working in VA06:16
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RoeyFairfax, VA, land of the Network Security Engineers06:16
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Roey27 here, how about you?06:16
BearcatRoey: been there, i think.06:16
vishamhi folks06:16
BearcatRoey: 3506:16
FSHeroAnd I think I'm about to answer my own question...06:16
ardchoilleFSHero: We love it when people do that :)06:17
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RoeyBearcat:  ah, ok. I thought I sensed maturity there..06:17
FSHero... I had the first share mounted on /media/samba/FSHEROMED04 and the second share mounted on /media/samba/FSHEROMED04/SharedDocs06:17
marckiebye for now...06:17
FSHeroardchoille: I do that a lot in 'real'-life too! :P lmao06:17
Roeyciao06:17
Roeymarckie:  bye06:18
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BearcatRoey: it's an act, i assure you. :)06:18
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FSHeroThus, I can't unmount a directory if something else is mounted in one of the former's subdirectories. (... wordy...)06:18
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FSHeroThis is also interesting... when I mount Samba shares, it creates a new folder: e.g. if I mount share "abc" into /media/samba/abc, it creates the "abc" folder.06:21
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FSHeroWhen I use Knoppix to mount USB disks from the command line, it complains that I didn't make the folder... lol06:21
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vishami bought a ethernet card(Dlink 520TX) yesterday and installed (my os: kubuntu dapper) i use a  adsl connection. The connection speed is avg of 2Mbps in windows but in ubuntu it is < 1Mbps06:22
vishamwhen i run nmap the connection breaks down06:23
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RoeyBearcat:  :)06:23
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coreymon77hi everyone06:24
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FSHeroOkay, a question: I followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently06:25
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FSHeroIs there a way of not using a .smbpassword file for credentials? I would like my file manager to ask me to type my username+password the first time I try to access a share.06:27
FSHeroHence, no one can start Knoppix on my computer and find out my password... ;)06:27
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vishami bought a ethernet card(Dlink 520TX) yesterday and installed (my os: kubuntu dapper) i use a  adsl connection. The connection speed is avg of 2Mbps in windows but in ubuntu it is < 1Mbps06:29
vishamwhen i run nmap the connection breaks down06:29
vishamwhats the problem?06:29
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coreymon77visham: are you using the proper driver?06:31
vishamdlink dfe 520TX (ethernet card) is autodetected06:31
vishambut drivers are also provided which donot compile on my system06:31
coreymon77are you sure there are no obstructions06:31
vishamobstructions?06:32
Minatakuvisham: Oh06:35
coreymon77visham: oh ya, its ethernet06:35
Minatakuvisham: Are you doing a UDP scan?06:35
vishamno only syn scan with OS detection06:35
MinatakuHm06:35
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vishamright now i'm trying to disable the ipv6 support will that work?06:35
MinatakuI know that I was (still am?) having an issue where if I did a UDP scan, at the end of the scan, nmap would segfault and the card would crash06:35
coreymon77visham: you said wont compile on your system, exactly what type of system do you mean?06:35
MinatakuMine is wireless, though06:35
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vishamkubunt dapper (6.06)06:35
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MinatakuUnrelated, I'm sure06:35
vishamwired ethernet card06:35
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Minatakuvisham: Simple solution... don't run nmap06:35
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MinatakuSomething along the line doesn't like what it's doing06:35
vishami will die without nmap06:35
visham;)06:35
MinatakuHeh06:35
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MinatakuSomething somewhere isn't happy with nmap06:35
MinatakuCheck your dmesg after it happens06:35
MinatakuIf someone's bitching, it'll be in there at the bottom06:35
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vishamforget nmap now06:35
vishamconnection speed is 2Mbps in WinXP but in ubuntu its < 1Mbps06:35
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marko_!register06:35
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Minatakuvisham: Windows is probably a dirty rotten liar06:36
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coreymon77visham: i doubt you are actually getting those speeds06:36
coreymon77visham: windoze usually exaggerates06:36
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coreymon77it tells me that i am getting speeds that are impossivle06:37
vishamcoreymon77: i can feel the difference while browsing and downloading06:37
MinatakuWindows will say anything to make you feel better06:37
MinatakuIt has to... after all, you're using Windows06:37
MinatakuIf anything's gonna make you feel like ass, it's using Windows06:37
vishamMinataku: any tips in general to increase the speed?06:38
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vishamMinataku: how about disabling ipv606:39
Minatakuvisham: Stop believing that it's slower06:39
MinatakuAs for that, I've heard that disabling it can speed things up06:39
coreymon77visham: are you the only one using the internet?06:39
coreymon77visham: or is it shared?06:39
MinatakuSome systems seem incapable of tolerating IPv606:39
vishamcoreymon77: i'm the only one06:39
MinatakuSo give disabling IPv6 a try06:40
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coreymon77visham: somehow im doubting that the speed is actually slower06:40
MinatakuIt's not like anything actually uses it yet06:40
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Daisuke_Idoactually, i suppose i should be screaming at wine06:40
Daisuke_Idofor some reason, eac can't see my cdrom at all06:40
vishamMinataku: any suggestion for the nmap problem06:40
coreymon77visham: is it possible that the slower speeds are just psychological because it says a different nu,mber06:40
Minatakuvisham: None06:40
MinatakuLike I said, check dmesg06:40
MinatakuIf I had more info (if there's any to be had) then I might have a suggestion06:41
vishamMinataku: thank you06:41
Minatakunp06:41
vishammore info?06:41
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vishamcoreymon77: one more problem when i run nmap with syn scan the connection breaks down after some time during the scan06:42
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vishamok folks thanks for the suggestions and help i'm going to reboot now06:43
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dazjorzHi06:50
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coreymon77hi06:50
dazjorzI'm having problems with OpenOffice.org and #openoffice.org recommended I ask here06:50
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dazjorzWhen I run OpenOffice.org, I get the "loading" screen, but it stays at zero06:50
dazjorzwhen I run 'soffice' at the console, nothing happens06:50
dazjorzthe only thing I get is the X error of an invalid or uninitialised input device, which I always get in every program so that's not the problem06:50
coreymon77dazjorz: the unvalid device thing is normal06:51
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coreymon77dazjorz: have you waited a little bit for it to open?06:51
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dazjorzcoreymon77: I have, I waited ten minutes for soffice and like five to ten minutes for OO.org itself06:53
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dazjorzthe first time I tried today, it would open after waiting half a minute or so06:53
dazjorzthen after that it didn't do anything at all anymore06:53
coreymon77dazjorz: i think thats an open office problem06:53
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dazjorzYay, it works now, after a reboot06:54
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jzillahow do i uninstall a program? kopete for example?06:57
[NL] Jazzapt-get remove kopete (i would do)06:57
jzillathanks06:57
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coreymon77jzilla: ya, use apt06:58
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[NL] Jazzi've use synaptic, adept, but i keep hitting my F12 Button and apt my way around in yakuake06:59
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BluesKajinstalling windows on virtualbox07:00
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BluesKajshh ...genii , I let it slip :)07:03
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geniiBluesKaj Don't mind me, just popping in on my break (which is finished now actually)07:03
BluesKajI don't mind at all genii ...nice to see you again :007:04
genii:)07:04
geniiOk, boss around, going going...07:04
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usamahashimihello everyone!07:08
usamahashimii am trying to install mplayer but the servers are giving error, is there any problem? can anyone also check it for me?07:09
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coreymon77usamahashimi: what exactly is this error07:10
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coreymon77usamahashimi: and are you using apt for it?07:10
dwidmannusamahashimi: umm, I had no problem fetching mplayer from the repositories about 12 hours ago07:10
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coreymon77usamahashimi: can you be a little more specific about the error?07:11
usamahashimilemme tell you the errors07:11
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usamahashimiFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.89.6). - connect (113 No route to host) [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] 07:12
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coreymon77usamahashimi: thats a server error07:12
usamahashimiE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.07:12
dwidmannodd, I thought that there was an update for it in feisty-security07:12
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usamahashimicoreymon77: how can i now download07:13
dwidmannthen again, you can't even connect to the server07:13
coreymon77usamahashimi: was this just now? did this happen just now?07:13
dwidmannI just pinged the server without a problem07:13
soulridertry http://packages.ubuntu.com07:13
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coreymon77usamahashimi: try it again07:13
soulridermaybe you can get them from there07:13
JuJuBeeIs PAM broken in feisty?07:14
usamahashimicoreymon77: i tried but the same error, this time i replace mplayer with xmms07:14
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coreymon77usamahashimi: somethings the matter with the repository07:14
coreymon77anyone else having repo problems?07:14
JuJuBeeNope.07:15
Dr_willistry differnt servers.07:15
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usamahashimicoreymon77: i figured another thing that the browser is not opening any site07:15
coreymon77okay07:16
coreymon77you are having severe internet problems07:16
coreymon77what i dont get is07:16
coreymon77hwo are you talking to us?07:16
Dr_willisive seen this happen befor. guy could irc. but not web surf.07:16
usamahashimicoreymon77: can you help me figuring out things?07:17
Dr_willisi wonder if the irc client had the ip#'s cached or somthing07:17
coreymon77usamahashimi: i could try07:17
coreymon77usamahashimi: you using wireless?07:17
[NL] Jazzdoes anyone have experience with fingerprint readers?07:17
usamahashimicoreymon77: no i am on dialup07:17
coreymon77oaky07:18
dwidmannJuJuBee: PAM = Pluggable Authentication Modules?07:18
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JuJuBeeYes.07:18
JuJuBeeCant get NIS or LDAP to work properly.07:18
usamahashimicoreymon77: moreover, i can ping google07:18
coreymon77im not too sure, anybody here have a little more experience with dialup?07:18
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JuJuBeeBoth see the accounts on the server, but cant authenticate07:18
usamahashimicoreymon77: ok, lemme scream for help :)07:19
coreymon77usamahashimi: asking will do just fine07:19
dwidmanndialup ... what a headache07:19
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neptunepinkI had no idea you could move around with vi keys in konqueror07:19
[NL] Jazzdwidmann: don't you like the modem-sound?:D07:19
usamahashimiCan anyone help me? I am on dialup and my browser and apt is not working but i can ping sites07:19
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[NL] Jazzeehw.. dns?07:20
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dwidmann[NL] Jazz: it was responsible for the loss of a portion of my sanity07:20
[NL] Jazzdwidmann: i get the point..:)07:20
bonbonthejonusamahashimi: tried tracepath?07:20
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usamahashimibonbonthejon: what is tracepath?07:20
bonbonthejonusamahashimi: you use it to see how information is getting to you across the internet, but that really wouldnt help here07:21
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bonbonthejonusamahashimi: how did you ping, by ip or by name07:21
dwidmann[NL] Jazz: the slowness resulted in the loss of the rest ...07:21
usamahashimibonbonthejon: by name07:21
[NL] Jazzdwidmann: out of sync:P07:21
bonbonthejonusamahashimi: can you ping the apt server07:22
neptunepinkusamahashimi: try using firefox instead of konqueror or vice/versa07:22
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usamahashimibonbonthejon: can you tell me the address of aptserver?07:22
dwidmannusamahashimi: ping 91.189.89.607:22
bonbonthejonusamahashimi: start with ubuntu.com07:22
bonbonthejonor that07:22
usamahashimineptunepink: if i can install firefox, i should use it, apt is giving server errors07:23
usamahashimiok lemme check07:23
usamahashimiyes i can ping i07:23
bonbonthejonusamahashimi: how about archive.ubuntu.com07:24
usamahashimilemme check07:24
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bonbonthejonusamahashimi: what have you changed recently? anything with sources.list07:24
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dwidmannbonbonthejon: that is archive.ubuntu.com ;)07:24
usamahashimibonbonthejon: no, i didnot changed the repos, but i am amazed that konqueror is also not opening sites07:25
bonbonthejondwidmann: ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com could be different07:25
primordium_hello, im trying to install my radeon 9600 in kubunto 7.04, im using a wiki guide but the guide is for ubunto and i cant find "Proprietary Drivers for Devices (Restricted)" where can i find this??07:25
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bonbonthejonusamahashimi: open konsole and try running lynx, its a text based web browser, see if you can open it in that07:25
usamahashimibonbonthejon: lynx is not installed :(07:26
neptunepinkusamahashimi: try links <url> or w3m <url>07:26
bonbonthejonusamahashimi: try links or w3c, I forget07:26
MAMUTE 8-)  8-)07:26
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MAMUTEBOA TARDE ALGUEM DO BRASIL? :)07:27
primordium_eu sou de portugal07:27
coreymon77english!07:27
coreymon77this is the english channel07:28
MAMUTEALGUEM AQUI AFIM DE FAZER AMIZADE COM UM BRASILEIRO ;)07:28
usamahashimibonbonthejon: no, w3m is not opening (Google i tried)07:28
primordium_hello, im trying to install my radeon 9600 in kubunto 7.04, im using a wiki guide but the guide is for ubunto and i cant find "Proprietary Drivers for Devices (Restricted)" where can i find this?? Thanks07:28
coreymon77!br | MAMUTE07:28
ubotuMAMUTE: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.07:28
coreymon77and no yelling07:29
payamSombady has bann me on Offtopi-kubuntu07:29
payamCan someone let me chatt there?07:29
usamahashimibonbonthejon:   Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.89.6). - connect (113 No route to host) [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] 07:29
usamahashimibonbonthejon: apt is giving this error07:29
MAMUTENO SEI COMO SOU NOVO COM ISSO?07:29
bonbonthejonusamahashimi: weird. try running "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" or "sudo dhclient eth0"07:29
coreymon77okay07:30
coreymon77seriously07:30
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[NL] Jazzusamahashimi: maybe your routing table is corrupt07:30
coreymon77does someone know the language that mamute is speaking?07:30
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usamahashimi[NL] Jazz, bonobonthejon: /etc/init.d/networking started but with a lot of errors07:31
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usamahashimi[NL] Jazz: can you help me also07:31
JuJuBeePortugise (sp? sorry)07:31
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coreymon77whoever knows the language, tell him to go to the proper channel and stop yelling07:32
JuJuBee!Portuguese07:32
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.07:32
primordium_I know07:32
primordium_do you want me to talk with him ??07:32
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coreymon77primordium_: yes07:32
coreymon77primordium_: tell him to go to the proper channel and stop yelling07:33
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usamahashimi[NL] Jazz: can you guide me about routing table?07:33
JuJuBeeanybody good with ldap?07:33
primordium_he leaved07:33
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[NL] Jazzusamahashimi: type "route" (without quotes) in a terminal and paste the output07:34
usamahashimi137.101.128.50  *               255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp007:34
usamahashimiand tthe other output is07:34
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usamahashimidefault         *               0.0.0.0         U     0      0        0 ppp007:35
usamahashimiboth these are under heading;07:35
usamahashimiDestination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface07:35
usamahashimi[NL] Jazz:07:35
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[NL] Jazzhmm, seems okay07:35
payamI need a download manager for my linux07:36
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[NL] Jazzdo you know your nameserver's adress?07:36
JuJuBee[NL] Jazz : ? /32 mask?07:36
thevHi.  Why are Firefox and Gimp so ugly in KDE?  They don't theme with everything else07:36
[NL] Jazzyeah, ppp07:36
usamahashimi[NL] Jazz: i am amazed that i can ping the servers but why i can not open the addresses in konqueror and why apt is not installing things07:36
coreymon77thev: you can make firefox theme with kde07:37
JuJuBeeAh, never saw that (never used ppp either)07:37
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coreymon77thev: and the gimp, well, it is a gnome program07:37
thevcorey - ah... how?07:37
[NL] Jazzusamahashimi: you can ping every IP?07:37
coreymon77thev: firefox themes, go to the firefox addons site07:37
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coreymon77thev: i use noia07:37
zipperAfter installing (k)ubuntu, i've been unable to boot up my windows xp installation cd. I've tested the cd in another comp where it works fine. Seems like grub is started before the cd can boot. What to do?07:37
dwidmannumm, lets see, you definitely need to have gtk2-engines-gtk-qt installed or they'll be downright hideous07:38
thevah, so it doesn't actually use the KDE theme07:38
usamahashimi[NL] Jazz: all the ips which i tried, i can ping them, google, ubuntu, archives,ubuntu etc07:38
thevcheap07:38
coreymon77thev: i believe there is a kde theme for it07:38
coreymon77thev: look on the site07:38
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coreymon77zipper: easy07:38
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coreymon77usamahashimi: for one thing, why would you want to use your xp cd?07:38
coreymon77usamahashimi: whoops, sorry07:38
coreymon77usamahashimi: wrong person07:39
usamahashimicoreymon77: :)07:39
coreymon77zipper: for one thing, why would you want to use your xp cd?07:39
[NL] Jazzusamahashimi: go edit your /etc/resolv.conf as root (in gnome terminal sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf) and put this on top of that file: nameserver 208.67.222.22207:39
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usamahashimi[NL] Jazz: ok, lemme check07:39
zippercoreymon77, so i can play the overlord demo =/07:39
magicbronsonnone of the GTK apps i run in kde are keyboard focusable. (e.g. can't hit tab to move around the gui.) anyone else have this problem?07:39
zippercoreymon77, wine does not support the version of securom that it uses07:39
coreymon77zipper: oh, oaky, well then07:40
[NL] Jazzusamahashimi: in case you wonder what that IP is, it's a opendns.org nameserver07:40
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coreymon77zipper: what computer are you using, what company made it?07:40
zippercoreymon77, zipper supreme ruler of the world Inc.07:40
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coreymon77zipper: no, seriously07:40
zippercoreymon77, (made it from pieces)07:40
zipperwhich i ordered individually07:41
usamahashimi[NL] Jazz: i put it,07:41
[NL] Jazzyeah?07:41
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[NL] Jazzokay save it usamahashimi07:41
coreymon77zipper: what about the bios?07:41
coreymon77zipper: who made that07:41
zipperasus p5ld2 motherboard... i think it's an Award bios07:41
usamahashimi[NL] Jazz: yes, i already saved it07:41
[NL] Jazzand now try to ping archive.ubuntu.com07:41
zipperand yes, i believe my boot priority is correctly setup07:41
zipperbut let me just double-check that07:41
thevI have weird issue with panels - on my other machine I can add a new panel, then go into the configure panel dialogue and reposition it, etc.  On this one I can only change the original panel...07:41
usamahashimi[NL] Jazz: yes, i can ping it07:42
thevSo if I add a new panel all I can get is a giant one at the bottom with nothing on it07:42
coreymon77zipper: that cant be it07:42
zippercoreymon77, ?07:42
coreymon77zipper: it cant be setup properly07:42
zipperokay07:42
coreymon77zipper: or else it would work07:42
zipperbrb then07:42
coreymon77zipper: check it07:42
zipper=)07:42
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[NL] Jazzusamahashimi: try to apt-get something then:)07:43
cigahello07:43
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usamahashimi[NL] Jazz: but apt and browsers are still giving error07:43
[NL] JazzHUH07:43
[NL] Jazzare you running knetworkmanager?07:43
[NL] Jazzor NetworkManager?07:43
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usamahashimi[NL] Jazz: i think, its not running07:44
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usamahashimi[NL] Jazz: i disabled my LAN card07:44
[NL] Jazzknetworkmanager could be set to offline mode07:44
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[NL] Jazzyeah but ppp0 is also a interface witch it can control, i think07:44
usamahashimi[NL] Jazz: i restarted my PC and everything happened07:44
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usamahashimi[NL] Jazz: lemme check the bash history and tell you that what i enabled and disabled07:45
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[NL] Jazzhaha ok07:45
usamahashimi[NL] Jazz: i disabled avahi-demon and ....07:46
cigaI reinstalled my box on a new partition. I want to have my cookies and my kmail accounts back. I copied apps/kcookiejar and apps/kwallet from the old system, but my pop3 account still needs a password, and konqueror does not seem to find the cookies. What more should I copy?07:46
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MinatakuYou have to copy more than just the binaries07:46
usamahashimi[NL] Jazz: and nothing else07:46
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[NL] Jazzhave you done a /etc/init.d/networking restart?07:46
MinatakuYou have to copy their configuration files as well07:46
cigaMinataku: was that for me?07:47
Minatakuciga: Yes07:47
cigaMinataku: I talked about conf files.07:47
cigaMinataku: I used apt-get to install the packages, of course.07:47
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MinatakuAh07:47
usamahashimi[NL] Jazz: i am thinking to reboot my pc, are you here, so i can come back to tell you the after reboot results?07:47
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[NL] Jazzusamahashimi: sorry, i have to go now, but i'm sure there's someone else willing to help you07:49
coreymon77magicbronson: is that a package?07:49
usamahashimi[NL] Jazz: ok thanks by the way07:49
[NL] Jazzbe smart, write down the IP of the current irc server07:49
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magicbronsoncoreymon77: no07:50
coreymon77magicbronson: cause if so, just apt it07:50
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[NL] Jazzi'm leaving07:50
[NL] Jazzciao!!07:50
jhutchins_ltmagicbronson: Should be part of the apache install.07:50
cigaanyone can give me a hand with my questions, please?07:50
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magicbronsonjhutchins_lt: that explains it, thanks07:51
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coreymon77ciga: what?07:52
Bearcathey Roey, i found an answer, i think07:52
BearcatRoey: a "dpgk --clear-avail" + apt-get update might fix it.07:53
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cigacoreymon77: I reinstalled. my cookies are gone. I want them back. I copied .kde/share/apps/kcookiejar, but konqueror does not seem to find them. What should I do?07:54
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cigacoreymon77: copied from backup.07:54
coreymon77ciga: ive noticed myself that that doesnt seem to work07:54
coreymon77ciga: could you jsut get them back manually07:54
coreymon77?07:54
cigacoreymon77: would be better to have everything back. Selecting would give me head-acks later.07:56
cigacoreymon77: and this is the same for kmail and my pop3 passwd.07:56
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cigacoreymon77: everything works, except those 2.07:56
coreymon77ciga: well kmail and pop3 pwrod should be easy to get back manually, shouldnt it?07:56
cigaand I have now 3.5.7 instead of 3.5.607:57
RoeyBearcat:  ahh07:57
Roeyok07:57
RoeyBearcat:  what is --clear-avail for ?07:57
cigacoreymon77: I don't know by heart. :] 07:57
BearcatRoey: it removes sets up the system to regen the /var/lib/dpkg/availble file, which appears to be corrupted on my friends computer.07:58
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BearcatRoey: simply deleting the file and doing a ap-get update does not do it.07:58
cigaarg07:59
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RoeyBearcat:  I'm surprised you didn't say --purge07:59
coreymon77ciga: sorry, i dont knwo07:59
Roeyapt-get --purge remove08:00
BearcatRoey: what does that do?08:00
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BearcatRoey: (i;m not normally a debian user)08:00
RoeyBearcat:  it removes anything installed into /etc and /var etc.08:00
Roey*also removes08:01
BearcatRoey: what does it remove? the files that apt-get uses?08:01
Roeynono08:02
Roeyit removes /all/ the files that the package installe08:02
Roeyd08:02
Roeyi.e. it does not just clear out /usr/lib and /usr/bin08:02
Roeyit also goes to /var and /etc and all that08:02
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JuJuBeeHow do I test to see if PAM is configured properly?08:17
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user_hey all, is this a good place to ask beryl theme questions?08:19
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user_I just got a nice brushed metal mac style theme08:21
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ActionParsnipok back08:22
ActionParsnipstupid sisters08:22
RoeyActionParsnip:  that's a great nick08:22
ActionParsnipplus changed alias08:22
ActionParsnipRoey: Its a harry hill joke08:22
Roeyah :)08:22
RoeyI mean, I had parsnips in my fridge only a week ago08:22
ActionParsnipRoey: Dad was too mean to buy him an action man08:22
Roeythey're not carrots, I found out08:22
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Roeyah08:22
usamahashimihello everyone!08:23
ActionParsnipRoey: ANd what clothes does actionParsnip wear?08:23
Roeyer08:23
usamahashimican anyone help me? i am unable to browse any site?08:23
ActionParsnipRoey: The wrappers from cornettos08:23
Roeyleves?08:23
Roeyoh :)08:23
Roeyhaha08:23
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RoeyActionParsnip:  I thought they were overgrown carrots, but they're a little different08:23
Roeymuch more..fibrous08:23
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ActionParsnipRoey: they are nice if you dice carrots with parsnips together08:24
ActionParsnipRoey: or roast with honey08:24
ActionParsnipRoey: Do you use Beryl etc?08:24
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RoeyActionParsnip:  I tried it but the thing slowed my system to a crawl08:25
ActionParsnipRoey: Whats you rig?08:25
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Roeywell before it was this inspiron something08:25
Roeywith a shiny PIII processor08:25
Roeyor early P408:25
Roeypoint is, now I've got a core2duo cpu08:25
ActionParsnipwhat ram / gfx08:26
Roeyand 2 gigs ram08:26
usamahashimihello everyone!08:26
ActionParsniptasty08:26
Roeyand intel integrated graphics08:26
usamahashimican anyone help me? i am unable to browse any site?08:26
ActionParsnipRoey: I'm on AM2 3000 Semp 1Gb DDR2, Nvidia onboard08:26
ActionParsnipusamahashimi: can you ping sites08:26
ActionParsnipRoey: Runs ace08:27
usamahashimiActionParsnip: yes i can08:27
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ActionParsnipusamahashimi: do you use a proxy?08:27
Ze-Mi have changed the monitor and lost i lost X, how can i recover it?08:27
usamahashimiActionParsnip: no, also i am on dialup08:27
ActionParsnipusamahashimi: check your web browser settings, you shouldnt have proxies put in if you are on dialup08:31
Ze-Mi have changed the monitor and lost i lost X, how can i recover it?08:31
Ze-Mhello?08:31
usamahashimiActionParsnip: i did, they are correct, i also tried to install mplayer but apt is giving error (server error)08:31
Ze-Mfucking great08:31
ActionParsnipZe-M: if you boot to single user and rename your xorg.cong it should be recreated08:31
Roeyusamahashimi:  what a nickname you have :)08:31
Roeyusamahashimi:  are you jordanian?08:31
usamahashimiRoey: no, indian08:31
Roeyoh, ok08:31
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Roeyusamahashimi:  I thought Jordanian because the king of Jordan is Hashemite08:31
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imauoismar@hotmail.com08:31
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Tm_Timau: hm?08:32
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Tm_Tthat's what I thought08:32
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Ze-Mi have installed kubuntu ppc but during live cd install i wasnt asked about a root password, now i cant enter as root, how can this be possible?08:37
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dragonfly7How do I adjust the volume from a terminal window?08:39
DJServersZe-M: did you enter a password for your own account?08:39
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PhinnFortdragonfly7: try alsamixer08:40
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DJServersZe-M: if you have enert a password for youw own user normaly thats auto the password for root08:40
dragonfly7PhinnFort: Thank you. Perfect.08:40
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PhinnFortnp08:40
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arkygeekhi.  my mate has just had a power bump and now everything has gone to hell.  when he tries to log in, it says: checking files systems .. /dev/sda2 contains a filesystem with errors. check forced...  it ended up in a limited shell, and he typed reboot.  it went to the login screen for X but then complained about missing kde config files or something...08:43
DexterFhello. can't make Opera run java, followed hints on !java. so - what else? jre6 is installed08:44
carutsuis there a way to change FTP's options in Konqueror?08:44
arkygeekit is now, upon another subseqent reboot, doing the check again...08:44
Tm_Tcarutsu: what you mean?08:44
mattsqzarkygeek: what do you mean by powerbump08:44
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arkygeekthe power went off mattsqz08:44
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carutsuTm_T: say Use STAT instead of LIST08:44
arkygeekhe had a lot of windows open at the time mattsqz08:45
carutsuTm_T: my host uses STAT08:45
Tm_Tstat?08:45
Tm_Tlist?08:45
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mattsqzi see08:45
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iarwain_anyone know why my /dev/sdb is not able to be formated via qtparted? it complains about being mounted, but it's not..08:45
Tm_Tcarutsu: apparently I have no idea about ftp protocol so I go cooking more food ;) ->08:45
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carutsuTm_T: XDD08:45
mattsqzthats unusual, i lost power during a storm 3 times day before yesterday and im not experiencing anything similar08:45
mattsqzi mean..it complains about filesystem, but no data loss.08:46
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arkygeekyeah ive never had probs like that b4 either...08:46
mattsqzonly thing i can think of is im using pata and hes using sata08:46
mattsqzbut that shouldnt effect it so much you would think08:46
arkygeekmattsqz: it said manual repair was needed from that limited shell... but he rebooted08:46
mattsqzwell maybe he should go back to the console and fsck08:47
MinatakuI usually always fsck if my external HDD loses power08:48
RyielGuys, anyone betatesting Gutsy Gibbon?08:48
Ryielor prealphatesting :D08:48
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MinatakuEven if I used Kubuntu in the first place, I couldn't use something named "Gutsy Gibbon"08:49
Ryielkde or gnome?08:49
xerosisRyiel: kde of course :p08:49
lucasorry08:49
lucai need08:49
lucaa help08:49
Minataku!enter08:49
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!08:49
Ryielxerosis: did you try kaffeine? Does playback works for you?08:50
lucasomeone here is italian?08:50
Minataku!it | luca08:50
ubotuluca: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:50
arkygeekok.  it says now that fsck died with exit status 4.  FAIL  filesystem check failed  please repair manually a maintenance shell will now be started.  what now.... fsck <enter> ?08:50
julienNo, I'm french08:50
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julienarkygeek08:50
xerosisRyiel: works for me08:51
RyielI tried to watch satellite tv but screen was shaking like hell.08:51
Minatakuarkygeek: Try it08:51
MinatakuIf that fails... you're in deep sh*t08:51
julienYou've got this message when you boot your computer ?08:51
RyielDont you happenet to have dvb card, right? :D08:51
xerosisRyiel: 'fraid not08:51
arkygeekjulien: yes08:51
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xerosisRyiel: though if you sent me one i'd test it for you :D08:51
julienOk, and you want to know what to do ?08:52
Minatakuarkygeek: fsck doesn't like errors when run noninteractively08:52
RyielThanks dude :D08:52
arkygeekjulien: yes08:52
Minatakuarkygeek: You'll have to type fsck <device in question> and hit enter08:52
DexterF!java08:52
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.08:52
julienOk, so when it tells you that "you have to do it manually", you've got a prompt when you must enter your root password08:52
RyielI hope somebody else is gonna try kaffeine with dvb cards. It works fine with feisty08:52
MinatakuIf, for example, /dev/sda3 is what fsck choked on, you have to type "fsck /dev/sda3"08:52
julien*where* sorry, not 'when'08:53
RyielThough it's only a pre alpha snapshot it's pretty stable08:53
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julienAre you ok arkygeek ?08:53
arkygeekjulien: going to start now with fsck /dev/sda2   (right?)08:53
Minatakuarkygeek: Yes08:54
julienyes08:54
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MinatakuIf that's the device with the filesystem that it choked on08:54
julienAnd it will repair it (we hope)08:54
MinatakuYou'll see some scary lookin' sh*t08:54
MinatakuMore than likely08:54
Minatakulol08:54
Ryielxerosis: So movie playback works fine, huh?08:55
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xerosisRyiel: looks like it to me08:58
RyielHmm. Damned dvb :P08:59
julienPlease, have you ever compiled the soft called jackd ? My problem is that I downloaded the last source, configured, maked and make installed. This worked fine. The soft runs ok. But when I try to start it, it tells me "jackd: unknown driver 'alsa'". But I can play sound with other softs like Kaffeine or VLC! Don't you think that I need to create a symbolic link somewhere or something like that ?08:59
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julienI'm on Feisty Fawn08:59
julienKubuntu08:59
shannonHow fast is wireless G, in practice?08:59
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Sothshannon: under ideal conditions about 20Mbit... give or take09:06
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shannonSoth: I'm getting about 720 kB/s, which I think is about 6-7 Mbps. My CPU is running at 100% every time I transfer a file too..09:09
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Sothwell the 20Mbit figure would be assuming 100% signal strength09:10
Young_Druidcan anyone suggest why my vpn connection always disonnect in 0.9 minutes?  i use pptpclient and static ip09:11
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sebastian_hi guys09:12
sebastian_i have trouble with my kubuntu and my wlan09:12
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fdovingYoung_Druid: lcp-echo-failure?09:13
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sebastian_i have a DELL Insprion 6400, intel ipw4945 but KNetworkManager don't work09:15
Jabapythhow do you search in konquerer?09:15
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n8k99Jabapyth: type "gg: search term" in the address bar09:15
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Jabapythnot google: search for files09:16
Young_Druidfdoving: there is no errors.09:16
fdovingYoung_Druid: ok, then i don't know.09:16
Young_Druidfdoving: it send many packets. may be it is "ip loop" problem. but i don't know how to rout.09:16
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ml_hallo09:23
ml_hi09:23
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Admiral_Chicagoi'm looking to grep the contents of a directory. actually in the files in the multiple directories..09:25
arkygeekjulien: ok, went through all that, and now when he logs into his kde session it says: could not start kstartupconfig check your installation  only option is ok wheich takes him bcak to login09:26
arkygeekjulien: any ideas?09:26
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frojndwhat's up with java09:27
frojndI have gotten installed java609:28
frojndand it worked untill now..09:28
arkygeekMinataku: how about you man?  this friend of mine is njt88 btw... he says hi09:28
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frojndall the sudden appliacations that needs java are reporting that I don't have java, even though i am deadly sure it's there..09:28
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frojndcan someone help me with that?09:28
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BluesKajarkygeek, sudo apt-get install kubunru-desktop09:29
BluesKajerr kubuntu-desktop09:29
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MinatakuAh09:29
arkygeekBluesKaj: cool thx09:29
BluesKajdid you just upgrade LDE , frojnd ?09:30
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BluesKajKDE09:30
frojndBlueskaj: yes09:30
frojndThere is new kernel09:30
inlviv3Where can I find localhost-config-file&09:30
inlviv3?09:30
BluesKajafter upgrading to KDE 3.5.7 , I had to reinstall java09:30
frojndand if sux i will go to previous09:31
arkygeekBluesKaj: it says it is already the newest version - should he --reinstall?09:31
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BluesKajyes09:31
inlviv3My English very bed/09:31
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KR-dataanyone with a good guide on how to sync my phone with Linux?09:32
BluesKaj!ukr09:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ukr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:32
BluesKaj!uk09:32
ubotuJoin us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk09:32
BluesKaj!ukraine09:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ukraine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:33
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fdovingBluesKaj: .ua09:33
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BluesKajright fdoving , just found it09:34
arkygeekBluesKaj: he has stupid wireless - how can he reinstall without a net connection - is the package on the hdd?09:34
BluesKaj!ua | inlviv309:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ua - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:35
BlueDevili'm using feisty (been using dapper until today) and in synaptic i'm missing the icons in the first two columns in the package lists09:35
BlueDevilany idea what can i do to correct it?09:35
BluesKajyes09:35
BluesKajarkygeek yes09:35
BluesKajlive cd actually09:35
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qoalahi09:38
qoala