[12:14] <kharloss> so
[12:14] <kharloss> any ideea ?
[12:15] <Dr_willis> clarify what you have done, and what exactly is going on. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop 'should' install several dozen+ packages and get you a working X system
[12:16] <Minataku> Sup, Dr_willis ? :D
[12:18] <Dr_willis> just got back from the hospital
[12:18] <Dr_willis> wifes all drugged up
[12:18] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Everything okay?
[12:20] <Dr_willis> yea shes just recovering from the drugs.
[12:21] <Dr_willis> so im trying to  compiule some kde themes - while chnging her pukepans :)
[12:21] <Dr_willis> i think she finially went to sleep
[12:21] <Minataku> Heh
[12:21] <Dr_willis> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[12:21] <Dr_willis> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[12:21] <Dr_willis> Dang it - Ive installed every kde dev file i can think of. :)
[12:21] <Dr_willis>  ./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix`
[12:22] <Dr_willis> should be the proper ./confgure command also I think
[12:25] <darkrift_> can anyone here point me to a program for linux that will crack an adobe ebooks protections, or a very good OCR program?
[12:27] <fathum> do u know some software for publishing like adobe indesign? ...but no scribus
[12:28] <Admiral_Chicago> darkrift_: Kooka
[12:29] <Dr_willis> !aptfix
[12:29] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:30] <darkrift_> Uptime: 20 hours and 26 minutes
[12:30] <darkrift_> w99t
[12:30] <darkrift_> w00t*
[12:30] <darkrift_> Random Fortune: ...Unix, MS-DOS, and Windows NT (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). 	-- Matt Welsh
[12:30] <darkrift_> wow
[12:32] <Dr_willis> 18:32:21 up 19:34,  2 users,  load average: 0.11, 0.14, 0.06
[12:32] <Dr_willis> My mythtv box had 4+ weeks of uptime once.
[12:33] <Dr_willis> then the thunderstorms hit. :) power failure
[12:34] <darkrift_> my laptops normally have 3+ months uptime
[12:35] <Dr_willis> gee.. does Hibernated to disk time count? :)
[12:37] <zipper> Hmm.... Can anyone recommend an alternative to Konversation?
[12:37] <zipper> (irc)
[12:37] <antiroach> xchat
[12:37] <zipper> Is that for gnome?
[12:38] <darkrift_> mirc (with crossover officer) lol
[12:38] <tdn> knetworkmanager stopped working. It does no longer show available networks. I need to manually edit /etc/network/interfaces to get on the network. How do I fix this? This is my /etc/network/interfaces: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/P605.html.
[12:38] <zipper> darkrift_: hah, no chance in hell i wanna use mirc
[12:38] <darkrift_> i got tons of scripts ive written for it
[12:38] <darkrift_> so i need those working
[12:38] <Minataku>  18:38:16 up 92 days, 14:04,  5 users,  load average: 0.30, 0.49, 0.35
[12:38] <Minataku> :D
[12:39] <zipper> hmm
[12:39] <zipper> or well
[12:39] <Minataku> zipper: XChat
[12:39] <Minataku> !info xchat
[12:39] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
[12:40] <intelikey> i seem to have an error    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37360    kde wont start
[12:40] <zipper> Minataku: Hmm... If i can figure out to just have Konversation to sort nicks after status/flags, instead of alphabeticly
[12:41] <zipper> i guess i could give it some more time
[12:41] <zipper> anyone knows?
[12:41] <Minataku> zipper: Why bother with that KDE crap? :P
[12:41] <zipper> i like kde =/
[12:41] <Minataku> Doesn't mean you have to use every single program that starts with a "K"
[12:41] <zipper> like BB more, but i thought i would give kde a testing
[12:41] <zipper> heh
[12:41] <zipper> ofcourse not :S
[12:42] <intelikey> well let rephrase that.   kde is started, but it's in an infinite loop
[12:42] <Minataku> Sorry, just woke up and got annoyed by my dad... as per friggin' usual
[12:42] <darkrift_> zipper:
[12:43] <darkrift_> thats easy
[12:43] <zipper_> ah
[12:43] <zipper_> xchat is pretty nice
[12:43] <darkrift_> in options
[12:43] <darkrift_> look for nickname list
[12:43] <darkrift_> ther eis an option there to sort by status
[12:43] <zipper_> okay, thanks
[12:44] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37360   any way to "unhange" that ?     (actually "deloop" maybe)
[12:44] <zipper_> in xchat, how do i get a tab with all the people in the channel?
[12:44] <Dr_willis> check the settings/menus
[12:45] <GrueTamer> zipper_: you should have to expand it, it starts out really thin
[12:45] <Dr_willis> view->layout->
[12:45] <zipper_> ah
[12:45] <zipper_> lol
[12:45] <Dr_willis> Oh yea - i recall that the first timeya start xchat. :)
[12:45] <ubuntuNoobus> i have a machine running an xp kubuntu dual boot  and using ntfs-config can view the windows part in linux but i also have to other drives that i cannot see? any ideas
[12:46] <ubuntuNoobus> i'm using a dfi lanpoarty nf590 and all 3 drives are sata
[12:47] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  what other drives>? ntfs parttitions?
[12:48] <ubuntuNoobus> i've got the main drive partition into 3 the 1st being a 150gb ntfs part the secong ext3 linux 144gb and the 3rd a 6gb swap part
[12:48] <ubuntuNoobus> the other 2 drives are ntfs 1 at 250gb and the other at 160gb
[12:49] <intelikey> cat /proc/partitions       and pastebin the output
[12:49] <Dr_willis> 6gb swap- egads.
[12:49] <intelikey> yeah
[12:49] <Dr_willis> you could always edit the fstab file manually and make them mount where ya want
[12:50] <ubuntuNoobus> my machine is running 3gb of ram
[12:50] <Dr_willis> thers also some kde tool for that. but i never use it.
[12:50] <Dr_willis> so ya rarely if ever NEED swap.. so ya add a lot of it. :)
[12:50] <intelikey> then why in the universe do you even have swap ?
[12:50] <ubuntuNoobus> so i thought the rule was twice for the swap
[12:50] <tdn> knetworkmanager stopped working. It does no longer show available networks. I need to manually edit /etc/network/interfaces to get on the network. How do I fix this? This is my /etc/network/interfaces: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/P605.html.
[12:50] <ubuntuNoobus> i really am a noob
[12:50] <antiroach> you dont need 6 gig swap
[12:51] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis: i hesitate to recommend kde's disk and filesystems applet to anyone
[12:51] <antiroach> you can always add temporary swap manually
[12:51] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  i can never rember where its at.
[12:51] <ubuntuNoobus> ok i'kll remember that
[12:51] <intelikey> you don't "need" any swap.
[12:51] <Daisuke_Ido> caused me no end of headaches.  i eventually said f it and edited the fstab by hand
[12:51] <fathum> do u know some irc canal about computer graphic?
[12:52] <genii> !info atftp dapper
[12:52] <ubotu> atftp: advanced TFTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7-11 (dapper), package size 26 kB, installed size 112 kB
[12:53] <BluesKaj> fathum, which graphics card ?
[12:53] <neptunepink> Eureka!
[12:53] <Keldon85> hi; I am having serious troubles with my monitor in Kubuntu
[12:54] <intelikey> so no sujestions on breaking out of the loop http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37360 ?    no cute little xsetx blah   or nofin ?
[12:54] <neptunepink> intelikey: ^C.
[12:55] <Daisuke_Ido> Keldon85: lemme guess, you can't get resolution above 1024x768?
[12:55] <intelikey> that doesn't help neptunepink,  i want kde to run.  not just kill it.
[12:55] <Keldon85> the monitor can work at 1280x1024, 1024x768 and so on; but when I try 1024x768 on kubuntu it does not work
[12:55] <Keldon85> well I can't even get 12
[12:55] <Keldon85> *1024x768
[12:55] <neptunepink> display is set? right user? That's all I can think of.
[12:55] <Daisuke_Ido> so 800x600 and below.
[12:55] <Keldon85> yes
[12:55] <Daisuke_Ido> right video drivers?  xorg configured properly?
[12:56] <Daisuke_Ido> what video card
[12:56] <fathum> to blueskaj: i think canal about computer graphic artists
[12:56] <intelikey> well never mind.  i'll go rewrite /usr/bin/startkde
[12:56] <Keldon85> well; I'm on an ATI X550 and it recognizes what it is; as for xorg configured properly, that's where I get stuck because it asks for things I just can't ever know about
[12:57] <Daisuke_Ido> !resolution
[12:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:57] <Daisuke_Ido> that will probably help :)
[12:57] <Keldon85> another problem is that since x is not starting I cannot get onto IRC as I did not install the text IRC client
[12:57] <marcus_> Hi. How do I make my home folder visible on the desktop?
[12:59] <Daisuke_Ido> Keldon85: you can install irssi from a VT (ctrl-alt-1 through 6) by typing 'sudo apt-get install irssi'
[12:59] <Keldon85> well what I want to know is what it is about Kubuntu that makes it have troubles that Mandrake does not with my monitor; in the last two versions of Kubuntu the live CD would only display at 640x480 unless I use safe mode
[12:59] <Keldon85> ahh that's the one; irssi!
[01:00] <intelikey> well that did it.     added line to the beginning of the script /usr/bin/startkde   and re ran it.    all working now.           line = "[ -z "$DISPLAY" ]  && export DISPLAY=':0' "
[01:00] <neptunepink> intelikey: but only for that one display :b
[01:01] <intelikey> neptunepink if it's ran on another display then "DISPLAY" should already be set    no?
[01:01] <Keldon85> #ntfs
[01:01] <Keldon85> !ntfs
[01:01] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:02] <eagles0513875> !fuse
[01:02] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:02] <Keldon85> thanks by the way
[01:02] <eagles0513875> anyone know about jack and how to set up a server
[01:03] <damianos_> wengophone !
[01:04] <damianos_> what do you think about wengophone ?
[01:04] <avalon> Is there a way I can set my kubuntu wallpaper to be a terminal?
[01:05] <tomek_> jest tu kto?
[01:05] <intelikey> sure takes kpersonalizer a long time to finish
[01:05] <neptunepink> !pl
[01:05] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[01:06] <tomek_> thx
[01:06] <damianos_> czesc
[01:06] <damianos_> uzywacie moze wengophone
[01:06] <damianos_> dzisiaj odkrylem
[01:07] <damianos_> skype pod linuksem pozostaje daaaleko w tyle jezeli chodzi o wengophone
[01:07] <eagles0513875> anyone have experience with jack
[01:07] <avalon> Is there a way I can set my kubuntu wallpaper to be a konsole window?
[01:09] <jarn> Where is the volume control?
[01:10] <intelikey> hmmmm it doesn't work to    ln -s /dev/null ~/.kde      meeh  just thought i'd try....   trying to create local folder /usr/src/kernel/.kde/share: Not a directory
[01:10] <intelikey> Error: Can't open display:
[01:10] <intelikey> .: 81: Can't open /usr/src/kernel/.kde/share/config/startupconfig
[01:10] <damianos_> is there anybody with webcam i need some help
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> no we will not put on a show for you to fulfill your sick little fantasies...
[01:13] <J-_> What's a good OSX themed icon set?
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> dunno, i don't use OS X
[01:14] <J-_> for  KDE
[01:14] <J-_> "OSX themed"
[01:15] <kubu> hola
[01:15] <kubu> como va todo?
[01:16] <kubu> alguno usa activamnete kubuntu??
[01:16] <kubu> o hace tiempo que lo usa mejor dicho??
[01:16] <J-_> !english
[01:16] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:16] <kubu> ah ok!
[01:16] <kubu> somebody, can help me!
[01:16] <kubu> about kubuntu 7.04
[01:17] <SlimeyPete> what is the problem, kubu?
[01:17] <BluesKaj> kubu, just ask your question
[01:17] <kubu> i have a problem wiht my cdrom device...
[01:17] <kubu> kubuntu not detect this...
[01:18] <kubu> sorry for my english, im argentine
[01:19] <BluesKaj> !es | kubu
[01:19] <ubotu> kubu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:20] <kubu> ok how change my channel to kubuntu-es?
[01:20] <J-_>  /join #kubuntu-es
[01:21] <kubu> #kubuntu-es
[01:21] <kubu> ok
[01:21] <ailen> Hola
[01:22] <kubu> alien deberas cambiarte al cnal ubuntu-es
[01:22] <kubu> aqui es solo ingles!
[01:23] <kubu> thanks koin
[01:26] <kubu> nobody respond my aswers in the channel in espaol
[01:27] <kubu> hehe
[01:27] <kubu> maybe here somebody can help me
[01:27] <kubu> !!!
[01:28] <kubu> with my bad english, maybe i can explain my problem with a device...
[01:28] <zipper> !remove
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remove - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <zipper> oh
[01:28] <zipper> sorry
[01:29] <kubu> my problem is about a problem with a lector/cd rom
[01:30] <kubu> i cant mount a cdrom, please help!
[01:47] <rodrigo> hey
[01:48] <DrDank> jo
[01:48] <DrDank> hi
[01:48] <rodrigo> any one using ktranslator?
[01:48] <rodrigo> mmm
[01:48] <DrDank> sorry bud.
[01:49] <DrDank> I guess Im going to go get dinner and watch the naked mile.
[01:49] <DrDank> later.
[01:58] <J-_> where does kubuntu store themes, .themes? All I see is Gnome themes there.
[01:58] <J-_> !themes
[01:58] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:59] <rodrigo> hello?
[02:02] <cotyrothery> Admiral_Chicago: Does deskreech ever come on anymore
[02:03] <Admiral_Chicago> cotyrothery: he was on last night
[02:03] <cotyrothery> ah ok well do you remember me
[02:03] <cotyrothery> i have not been on in like a month because my computer broke
[02:04] <cotyrothery> i was the one who had trouble getting kubuntu to install
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> no i don't remember
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> bbiab
[02:06] <strabes> how do you enter passwords for rar files with ark?
[02:06] <strabes> when you're extracting them
[02:13] <jriachi> hello
[02:21] <Dhraakellian> well, I got glx stuff working again
[02:21] <Dhraakellian> ...slowly
[02:24] <shiers69> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" <--I get this message when only my blank scsi drive is installed and i'm trying to boot from the livecd (7.04) anyone got any ideas?
[02:24] <shiers69> havn't been able to find a solution online yet
[02:26] <shiers69> hello?
[02:26] <shiers69> anyone home?
[02:27] <shiers69> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" <--I get this message when only my blank scsi drive is installed and i'm trying to boot from the livecd (7.04) anyone got any ideas?
[02:42] <shiers69> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" <--I get this message when only my blank scsi drive is installed and i'm trying to boot from the livecd (7.04) anyone got any ideas?
[02:43] <Dhraakellian> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia seems to be focused on gnome as far as GUI instructions go, and the kubuntu wiki page simply redirects me there
[02:44] <jriachi> Dhraakellian: it is at kernel/Xorg level, it will work for ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu...
[02:44] <Dhraakellian> "System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager"
[02:44] <gon> !mpg
[02:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:45] <shiers69> When i try to install from a live cd (kubuntu 7.04) while only having my blank scsi disk installed i receive the "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" error, is there a fix for this yet?
[02:45] <Dhraakellian> !nvidia
[02:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:46] <linux_> Hi there.
[02:46] <shiers69> hi
[02:46] <linux_> Im having troubele getting 3d support
[02:46] <linux_> :(
[02:46] <Dhraakellian> okay, so apt-get install nvidia-legacy-glx (for a geforce2) and then switching to the nvidia driver instead of nv should do the trick, right?
[02:46] <linux_> anyone know how i can get it
[02:46] <jriachi> Dhraakellian:  right
[02:46] <linux_> its a ATI laptop card
[02:46] <Dhraakellian> glx stuff wasn't working for me the last time I tried it
[02:47] <linux_> i installed the ati driver thing
[02:47] <shiers69> linux_: consider yourself lucky, i can't even get kubuntu to install
[02:47] <linux_> then some 3d games say i havent got opengl :S
[02:47] <linux_> shiers69: why????
[02:47] <shiers69> When i try to install from a live cd (kubuntu 7.04) while only having my blank scsi disk installed i receive the "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" error, is there a fix for this yet?
[02:47] <Dhraakellian> I just uninstalled nvidia-legacy-glx, and glxgears, bzflag, et al. actually load for me
[02:47] <linux_> sorry for so many ?'s
[02:47] <Dhraakellian> they run slowly, but they load
[02:49] <jriachi> i just installed nvidia-glx, for my nv6800-go
[02:50] <Dhraakellian> GeForce2 MX/MX 400
[02:50] <giovani2> I just upgraded hald and the kernel to the newest version, upon restart, kdm will not launch kde after entering a password, it simply restarts itself
[02:51] <giovani2> I've looked in the Xorg and KDM logs ... nothing seems to stand out -- any recommendations?
[02:51] <giovani2> this is feisty
[02:52] <jriachi> giovani2: and in the ~/.xsession-errors?
[02:52] <giovani2> let me check, hold on
[02:53] <Dhraakellian> okay, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, right?
[02:53] <giovani2> jriachi: that file is empty
[02:54] <jriachi> Dhraakellian: right
[02:54] <Dhraakellian> okay, now glxgears was able to run before this
[02:54] <Dhraakellian> now, let's see if it works afterwards
[02:56] <shiers69> anyone home?
[02:57] <jriachi> i am at home :)
[02:57] <shiers69> do you know how to fix the error i'm having?
[02:57] <giovani2> jriachi: any other ideas?
[02:57] <jriachi> nop
[02:57] <shiers69> it's amazing that there are so many people in here yet no one is here
[02:57] <gon> !mp3
[02:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:58] <hikaricore> we like to idle
[02:58] <jriachi> (so    cat /home/*/.xsession-errors    returns no answer, giovani2? )
[02:58] <shiers69> how bout you hikaricore... know how to solve my problem?
[02:59] <shiers69> can't find any solutions online anywhere
[02:59] <giovani2> jriachi: correct
[02:59] <jriachi> giovani2: then i have no idea
[02:59] <hikaricore> sadly no i had that problem in alpha feisty, but never figured out what caused it
[03:00] <jriachi> try starting /usr/sbin/kdm  as root in a virtual console
[03:00] <shiers69> i sure am glad my pc w/ vista works fine ;-)
[03:00] <jriachi> to check the output, giovani2
[03:00] <hikaricore> eww
[03:00] <giovani2> jriachi: should I kill the already running kdm first?
[03:00] <jriachi> giovani2: yes
[03:00] <hikaricore> thou shalt not mention satans name in #kubuntu
[03:00] <hikaricore> ^_^
[03:00] <shiers69> heh
[03:01] <Frederick> folks why kpalmdoc is not on repos?
[03:01] <jriachi> hikaricore: for kubuntu users,  to use Vista is not a sin
[03:01] <jriachi> it is a penitence
[03:01] <sebastianhooker> no, vista is a sin
[03:01] <sebastianhooker> and i will not go any other way
[03:01] <giovani2> jriachi: kdm is located in /usr/bin, and it detaches from the console after starting
[03:01] <sebastianhooker> lol
[03:01] <giovani2> and brings it back to a prompt
[03:01] <hikaricore> vista is worse than killing babies
[03:01] <hikaricore> i'm done with that comment
[03:02] <jriachi> sebastianhooker: then i have no idea about how to help you (i guess i am still too much used to the debian way...)
[03:03] <jriachi> sorry
[03:05] <Dhraakellian> that... didn't work
[03:06] <Dhraakellian> I ran "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[03:06] <Dhraakellian> then logged out and did /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[03:06] <Dhraakellian> black screen with the Kubuntu logo graphic and an empty progress bar
[03:07] <Dhraakellian> then, after a while, just a single blinking text cursor up in the corner
[03:08] <jriachi> Dhraakellian: sorry to hear that
[03:10] <jriachi> they say that intel is the best for 3d on linux, since there are opensource drivers, and such... i have no idea, tho
[03:12] <Dhraakellian> jriachi: yeah, but getting hardware acceleration with the onboard intel stuff was a nightmare the last time I tried
[03:12] <jriachi> no idea, i have only this nvidia laptop, my last intel was a i740 :)
[03:13] <Dhraakellian> then I plugged in the nvidia card, installed the drivers, (and perhaps followed a few instructions on the gentoo docs... I don't remember), and it mostly just worked
[03:14] <jriachi> Dhraakellian: you may want to try with the .run from nvidia.com  (it gave me problems, like dissapearing virtual consoles at control-alt-F1)
[03:14] <Dhraakellian> ?
[03:14] <giovani2> hmm, this kdm problem is very frustrating
[03:15] <jriachi> giovani2: so... no log?
[03:15] <giovani2> which log are you referrnig to?
[03:16] <giovani2> there was no .xsession-errors file
[03:16] <giovani2> there are logs for kdm and x, but I don't see any fatal errors or anything
[03:17] <jriachi> mine contains...
[03:17] <giovani2> I'm not sure if this is kernel related, or hald related -- I upgraded both at the same time, but neither of the kernels (that includes the -15 one I had, and was working fine from install months ago) are working -- both give this error, even in "recovery mode"
0: warning: Unknown encoding: es_ES.UTF-8@euro
[03:17] <jriachi>     startkde: Starting up...
[03:17] <jriachi> startkde: kpersonalizer not found! Please install to properly configure your user.
[03:17] <giovani2> well, it would appear that that's written when kde starts
[03:18] <jriachi> to it is strange, you dont get any line :S
[03:18] <giovani2> kde is not starting ..
[03:18] <giovani2> or not staying open, at least
[03:18] <giovani2> are there any kde logs?
[03:18] <jriachi> i have no idea
[03:19] <giovani2> well it's paralyzed my computer -- bad position to be in
[03:20] <mallen> hello all
[03:20] <soulrider_> jriachi: Dhraakellian if you have an nvidia card its better to use the drivers from the repos and not install the ones from nvidia.com
[03:20] <soulrider_> hi Kazzline
[03:20] <Dhraakellian> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia <--the 7.04 section there is fairly usless if you don't have Gnome
[03:21] <Kazzline> how goes it
[03:21] <pakotm> hola
[03:21] <soulrider> hola pakotm
[03:21] <soulrider> !es | pakotm
[03:21] <ubotu> pakotm: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:21] <pakotm> axias
[03:21] <pakotm> bye
[03:21] <pakotm> hi
[03:21] <Kazzline> anyone else have ubuntu installed on a ibm lappy?
[03:22] <Kazzline> i'm having a hell of a time getting the wifi working right
[03:24] <Dhraakellian> http://http.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html <-- Huh... is that page up to date?
[03:25] <Dhraakellian> it doesn't show the GeForce2 MX/MX 400 in the legacy section
[03:25] <Dhraakellian> but I'm sure I was using the legacy package on Gentoo
[03:26] <brian__> ive installed the nvidia glx driver/enabled it but a restart only shows a blinking cursor..any ideas
[03:26] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: um... the up to date list would be in the latest driver page
[03:27] <Dhraakellian> okay
[03:27] <Dhraakellian> then which page had that link that I followed
[03:27] <Dhraakellian> hmm
[03:27] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: that's the 8762 driver
[03:27] <Dhraakellian> well, nevermind then
[03:29] <louis_> hey guys
[03:29] <louis_> if i accidentally close a terminal window during apt-get install, how can i bring it back up to see the progress?
[03:30] <moshe> hi, have problem with built-in bluetooth on thinkpad x40, hciconfig -a shows empty, while dmesg shows that bluetooth was loaded and bluetooth service is running. also, no hciX devices
[03:31] <Dhraakellian> The 1.0-96xx driver supports the following set of GPUs:
[03:31] <Dhraakellian> GeForce2 MX/MX 400  0x0110
[03:32] <Dhraakellian> which, according to version numbers in synaptic, means that I should still be using nvidia-glx instead of nvidia-glx-legacy
[03:33] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: check under which section that video card is listed? there are 3 sections corresponding to nvidia-glx-new, nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-legacy
[03:34] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: it's right at the top of the list for the 1.0-96xx section
[03:34] <Jucato> can you throw me a link? :)
[03:34] <Dhraakellian> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[03:34] <Dhraakellian> I guess I had just assumed that I'd be using nvidia-glx-legacy since I was using the legacy package on Gentoo
[03:35] <Jucato> yep. should be nvidia-glx, not -legacy, not -new
[03:35] <lunar-raven> !azureus
[03:35] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[03:36] <gon> !mpg
[03:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:37] <brian__> ne ideas?
[03:37] <sebastianhooker> domo arogoto find your inner ubotu :D
[03:37] <sebastianhooker> brian__: look up
[03:37] <Dhraakellian> Ni!
[03:37] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: because Kubuntu is not Gentoo, and vice versa. they have different package naming conventions
[03:37] <brian__> sry left for a fw min
[03:38] <sebastianhooker> jucato: *throws URL at his head*
[03:38] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: so the split between regular and -legacy is distro-side rather than upstream?
[03:39] <sebastianhooker> jucato: catches it and eats it, then shoots a gun at jucato
[03:39] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: hm.. btw, who told you in Gentoo that you should use nvidia-legacy-drivers?
[03:40] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: it's been long enough now that I don't remember
[03:40] <Dhraakellian> who knows?  maybe I just misread a doc
[03:40] <hikaricore> only the shadow knows..
[03:40] <hikaricore> heh
[03:40] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: because I'm looking at it right now, and the driver number itself tells me that you shouldn't have used the legacy ones (7184)
[03:40] <sebastianhooker> well, kubuntu linux uses binary, like any operating system, there are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who do not.
[03:41] <Jucato> anyway, Gentoo has only 2 drivers for nvidia, legacy and the normal one. while Kubuntu has 3
[03:41] <n8k99> sebastianhooker: heheh
[03:41] <sebastianhooker> n8k99 understands binary
[03:41] <sebastianhooker> :D
[03:41] <Jucato> sebastianhooker: that is absolutely 1
[03:41] <sebastianhooker> haha
[03:41] <unnamed> unly in the last release of repository
[03:41] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: oh... here's a possibility... I might have had a 71xx driver installed due to that being a known working one way back when my dad had this card in his mandriva box
[03:41] <sebastianhooker> well, shit.
[03:41] <sebastianhooker> i need a search engine for real life
[03:42] <sebastianhooker> where are my socks?
[03:42] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: probably because it was the latest driver back then :P
[03:42] <Dhraakellian> this was before gentoo got the split packages for nvidia drivers
[03:42] <unnamed> feisty
[03:42] <sebastianhooker> doesn't kubuntu use java?
[03:42] <sebastianhooker> cause java works on all OSs?
[03:42] <sebastianhooker> cause saying that java is great because it works on all OSs is saying like anal sex is great because it works on all genders
[03:43] <Jucato> sebastianhooker: use java in what way? an OS just doesn't "use" java
[03:43] <Jucato> er...
[03:43] <hikaricore> java works equally as well in all OSes
[03:43] <Jucato> !language | sebastianhooker
[03:43] <ubotu> sebastianhooker: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:43] <hikaricore> slowly..
[03:43] <Dhraakellian> sebastianhooker: you know, I *really* didn't need that imagery
[03:43] <sebastianhooker> !language | Jucato
[03:43] <ubotu> Jucato: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:43] <Daisuke_Ido> bash stealer!
[03:45] <unnamed> squarepants!
[03:46] <Dhraakellian> oy...
[03:46] <IAmWill> !nvidia
[03:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:47] <Dhraakellian> IAmWill: heh... as far as GUI instructions go, the 7.04 section of that (well, the nvidia subpage to which it links) is fairly useless without Gnome
[03:47] <Dhraakellian> which means that you need to check the list yourself
[03:48] <Dhraakellian> and my fingers still think that the command for installing packages is "emerge"
[03:48] <soulrider> sebastianhooker: some people hate java. i dont know why. I personally like it a lot
[03:48] <IAmWill> Dhraakellian, i just noticed
[03:48] <soulrider> lol
[03:48] <soulrider> gentoo was way too complicated for me
[03:48] <soulrider> i just dont ahve the time to read all the docs
[03:48] <soulrider> and compile stuff 100 times
[03:48] <Dhraakellian> soulrider: it's not *too* bad
[03:48] <IAmWill> Dhraakellian, once again.. i suffer from the gentoo syndrome  =)
[03:49] <Dhraakellian> but, yeah, I decided to give kubuntu a try to see if it actually was easier and less bother
[03:49] <IAmWill> Dhraakellian, it is as if, gentoo was easier to get video working....
[03:49] <Dhraakellian> my decision so far: a little yes, a little no
[03:49] <IAmWill> samehere
[03:49] <soulrider> Dhraakellian: i use arch at the moment, but the ubuntu community is the best
[03:49] <Jucato> *cough* offtopic *cough*
[03:49] <Dhraakellian> I might try vanilla Debian sometime
[03:49] <IAmWill> what holds me to kubuntu is the dreadful reinstall of gentoo
[03:49] <soulrider> and kubuntu is great for all those new to linux
[03:50] <soulrider> Jucato: you still having issues with recursion? i could help you out a bit
[03:50] <IAmWill> okay, so.. how the hell do i get my drivers working in here?
[03:50] <soulrider> IAmWill: nvidia drivers ?
[03:50] <IAmWill> soulrider, yeah
[03:50] <Jucato> soulrider: I put it on the shelf a bit. focusing on more important stuff :)
[03:50] <soulrider> i think you need to install nvidia-glx
[03:51] <soulrider> and thern edit xorg to use the nvidia driver
[03:51] <Dhraakellian> IAmWill: well, if it's a GeForce2 MX/MX 400, don't go with the legacy drivers
[03:51] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-generic
[03:51] <Dhraakellian> !;)
[03:51] <IAmWill> not legacy
[03:51] <Jucato> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:51] <Jucato> then restart X
[03:51] <Jucato> done
[03:51] <IAmWill> soulrider, i have that one installed, but it doesnt like me
[03:51] <soulrider> Jucato: thats easier since i had to last do it
[03:51] <IAmWill> ohh.. I was running Xorg -configutre
[03:51] <soulrider> what do you mean?
[03:51] <Dhraakellian> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:51] <Dhraakellian> ?
[03:52] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: that doesn't really work for the newer drivers. sudo nvidia-xconfig is more reliable from what I've seen so far
[03:52] <Jucato> and by newer, I mean no -legacy
[03:52] <Jucato> not*
[03:52] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: ah, okay
[03:53] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: and how about just going into the kcontrol module and choosing (*) Proprietary instead of ( ) Standard?
[03:53] <Jucato> dunno. never trusted displayconfig since day 1 :)
[03:53] <Jucato> displayconfig = Kubuntu-only system settings/kcontrol module for Monitor & Display
[03:54] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: yeah, I suspected the kubuntu-only part
[03:54] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: how is it so bad and/or untrustworthy?
[03:55] <Jucato> it never worked for me. that's the only reason :)
[03:55] <Jucato> go ahead and use it if it works for you :)
[03:55] <Dhraakellian> heh
[03:55] <Dhraakellian> still backing up my xorg.conf first
[03:56] <Dhraakellian> if this works, however, I might have to go in and clear out a ton of backups
[03:56] <Jucato> would be nice if it did that automatically too :)
[03:56] <Dhraakellian> it does back up the xorg.conf, but if I do it myself, I know exactly which backup it is that I want
[03:57] <Dhraakellian> okay, changed
[03:57] <ubuntu> Jucato gone?
[03:57] <Dhraakellian> Here goes nothing!
[04:00] <Dhraakellian> W00WH0M!
[04:01] <Dhraakellian> framerate in glxgears has just about tripled
[04:01] <Dhraakellian> actually... more than tripled
[04:04] <bonbonthejon> how do you show the frame rate for glxgears
[04:07] <DaSkreech> glxgears -iacknowledgethatthisisnotabenchmark
[04:07] <cWolfe> i really hate that the devs did that
[04:07] <ardchoille> glxgears is not a benchmark. You can use it to show that DRI works, but it does not even test that well. There's glxinfo or your Xorg.0.log to tell you if DRI was enabled as well. And for the people who're wondering why CPU usage is 100%, while glxgears seems to be giving quite a lot of fps: yes, this is normal, because it tries to get the max number of frames per second. Checking CPU usage for glxgears is not a way to see if direct rendering w
[04:08] <ardchoille> crdlb: same
[04:11] <IAmWill> wow, i think i just had the deciding factor for kubuntu vs gentoo
[04:12] <ardchoille> btw, glxgears should print fps bydefault in Feisty.
[04:12] <DaSkreech> IAmWill: time to install KDE?
[04:12] <IAmWill> i rebooted to fix my video card, and upon reboot, I went to the grub menu and did the recovery, and it booted me into root with no password
[04:13] <Jucato> and?
[04:13] <ardchoille> That's recovery mode, that's the way it works
[04:13] <IAmWill> strait to root, in which i vi'ed my xorg.conf, and then rebooted.. not once did kubuntu ask for a root password... just gave me root priviligies
[04:13] <DaSkreech> Jucato: dood!
[04:13] <Jucato> er.. that's how it's supposed to work!!
[04:14] <IAmWill> i thought that linux was suppose to be secure.... .....
[04:14] <Daisuke_Ido> it's RECOVERY
[04:14] <DaSkreech> IAmWill: You can turn that off if you like
[04:14] <Daisuke_Ido> there is no root password by default, so it can't exactly ask for one
[04:14] <IAmWill> DaSkreech, i like to hear that
[04:14] <ardchoille> IAmWill: If you want more security, you can remove the "recovery" options from the menu.lst file
[04:14] <DaSkreech> IAmWill: plus if someone is close enough to reboot your machine and select a kernel you are already screwed
[04:14] <IAmWill> i know that.... its just... weird
[04:14] <IAmWill> i am not used to that
[04:15] <Daisuke_Ido> you ever use windows?
[04:15] <IAmWill> DaSkreech, this is true
[04:15] <ardchoille> lol
[04:15] <Jucato> it's not weird. you just don't know how it's supposed to work
[04:15] <IAmWill> Jucato, not kubuntu
[04:15] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I think he knows how it's supposed to work he just likes false security "-)
[04:15] <IAmWill> cute  =)
[04:16] <IAmWill> ohh yeah, and nvidia still isnt working
[04:16] <ardchoille> Could it be that gentoo doesn't use the sudo model and therefore asks for a password for recovery mode?
[04:16] <n8k99> it's not security is not boolean
[04:16] <IAmWill> i switched the driver to nvidia, and it freezes my system... it only works under nv  =(
[04:16] <Daisuke_Ido> n8k99: i'm going to pretend that sentence made sense.
[04:16] <ardchoille> lol
[04:16] <n8k99> Daisuke_Ido: good thing!
[04:17] <IAmWill> ardchoille, thats probably it... this is the first time i have used sudo... in kubuntu
[04:17] <ardchoille> IAmWill: Ah, ok
[04:17] <IAmWill> ardchoille, i am not a fan of sudo.. although i can see its benefits
[04:18] <ardchoille> IAmWill: Can't brute force a root account when it's disabled ;)
[04:18] <IAmWill> i catch myself using sudo su more... its just easier to be root (imo)
[04:18] <Jucato> O.o
[04:19] <Jucato> sudo -i
[04:19] <Daisuke_Ido> and less secure!  for someone concerned with security that sounds retardedly insecure :D
[04:19] <draik> Is it possible for me to have GNOME and KDE installed on Kubuntu? I want to have the option when I login
[04:19] <ardchoille> draik: Yes, and you can run gnome apps in kde and vice versa
[04:19] <ender_> yes...just "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[04:19] <antiroach> draik yes
[04:19] <draik> Ok
[04:19] <Daisuke_Ido> draik: ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
[04:20] <ender_> errr... use aptitude... that would be better I think
[04:20] <Daisuke_Ido> and xubuntu-desktop if you're feeling frisky
[04:20] <IAmWill> uhh.... dont you get dependency issues if you install both kde and gnome?
[04:20] <Daisuke_Ido> aptitude is a better idea.
[04:20] <Daisuke_Ido> IAmWill: why would you?
[04:20] <Jucato> IAmWill: no
[04:20] <IAmWill> conflicting packages
[04:20] <ardchoille> IAmWill: No, that's why you have a package manager, to resolve deps.
[04:20] <ender_> I am running kubuntu and mint linux with no issues
[04:20] <Jucato> IAmWill: why would there be conflicting packages?
[04:20] <n8k99> draik you may want to install a script from kde-apps.org that cleans up your kmenu automatically if you do all that installing
[04:20] <Daisuke_Ido> gtk conflicts with qt how?
[04:20] <draik> n8k99: NOW you tell me
[04:20] <Daisuke_Ido> how could anything possibly conflict :D
[04:21] <DaSkreech> IAmWill: what would conflict?
[04:21] <IAmWill> ehh.... i dont knoe
[04:21] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: I suppose when you compile and install manually, there can be conflicts.
[04:21] <IAmWill> i was always under the impression that they conflicted
[04:21] <n8k99> draik: seemed like a good time
[04:21] <DaSkreech> IAmWill: Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaw
[04:21] <IAmWill> gentoo'ers hate that crap
[04:22] <DaSkreech> that was Gnome pushing freedesktop standards and clouding the water
[04:22] <Daisuke_Ido> kubuntu != gentoo
[04:22] <IAmWill> plus.... i have had the great cirle of dep's problems in gentoo with that crap
[04:22] <Daisuke_Ido> we LOVE it :)
[04:22] <draik> Will I get any issues from what I have that seems to be "kubuntu only?
[04:22] <n8k99> IAmWill: only the people conflict
[04:22] <ender_> so what is xfce like compared to kde?  cleaner...less flashy, more?
[04:22] <IAmWill> nice
[04:22] <Daisuke_Ido> minimalist, but functional
[04:23] <GrueTamer> xfce is less flashy than kde, takes up less resources, and the interface is a bit different
[04:23] <DaSkreech> ender_: minimalist
[04:23] <ardchoille> draik: I doubt it. I was running gnome with kicker and windowmaker as my window manager.. until I wised up and switched to kubuntu
[04:23] <Daisuke_Ido> the default xubuntu setup is superficially similar to the default gnome setup
[04:23] <ender_> I have more than enough resources...I will stick with K then
[04:23] <Daisuke_Ido> as far as how it looks
[04:23] <draik> ardchoille: I want to have the option, that's all
[04:24] <ardchoille> draik: I was surprised at how well gnome and kde "played together"
[04:24] <Daisuke_Ido> they play well together by never touching
[04:24] <ardchoille> hehe
[04:24] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: try and get Windows XP and 98 to play that well :)
[04:24] <Daisuke_Ido> whenever one's on the playground, the other is inside eating glue
[04:24] <draik> ardchoille: I hope so. But will I get any conflict from what I have on my desktop? I found a few apps that are only GNOME supported. What will happen when I run KDE?
[04:24] <Daisuke_Ido> i'll leave which is which as an excercise for the reader
[04:25] <draik> Daisuke_Ido: HAHA.. I like that analogy
[04:25] <Daisuke_Ido> draik: they'll run fine
[04:25] <ender_> draik: your gnome libs will still take over
[04:25] <Dhraakellian> hmm...
[04:25] <Dhraakellian> nexuiz 2.3 was just released at the end of last month
[04:25] <ender_> in the repos?
[04:25] <draik> Ummm....
[04:25] <draik> What do I want for the Display Manager? GDM or KDM?
[04:26] <Dhraakellian> for one not familiar with Kubuntu's packaging policies, can we expect to see it in repos before Gutsy?
[04:26] <draik> For the default that is
[04:26] <soulrider> draik: kdm i guess
[04:26] <Jucato> draik: KDM if you use KDE more than GNOME
[04:26] <DaSkreech> draik: whichever you think is prettier
[04:26] <draik> I shall reserve my choice for the sake of stopping a flame war
[04:26] <ender_> or blind choice.. you can change the manager at the login window by selecting the sessions option
[04:26] <DaSkreech> granted the KDM flows nicely with KDE and GDM doesn't flow nicely with GNOME
[04:26] <Dhraakellian> if anyone knows a display manager that lets you switch keyboard layouts at runtime, please let me know
[04:26] <hiyah> hi, my /var/log/mysql.log is about 900mb now its taking up my "/" space, how do i make it gzipped by itself?
[04:27] <Jucato> draik: actually the choice between KDM or GDM is more technical
[04:27] <draik> Jucato: How so?
[04:27] <Jucato> DaSkreech: you mind revising your sentence? :)
[04:27] <Dhraakellian> DaSkreech: either will work fine with the other
[04:27] <Jucato> draik: KDM works perfectly with KDE, but not as well with GNOME. GDM works perfectly with GNOME, but not as well with KDE. so it really depends on which you use more
[04:28] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: well not entirely true, specially on feisty. KDM + GNOME will not let you restart/shutdown from GNOME, only logout
[04:28] <draik> What if I decide to go from KDE to GNOME... can I switch from KDM to GDM?
[04:28] <Dhraakellian> aah
[04:28] <DaSkreech> I meant that you can get KDM + splash + KDE desktop to be seemless
[04:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i think that works both ways too
[04:28] <Dhraakellian> okay, I sit corrected
[04:28] <Jucato> also, I think that GDM + KDE will not let you start new user sessions
[04:28] <DaSkreech> I've never seen GDM + Spalsh + Gnome not have kind of jarring cuts between them
[04:28] <Jucato> draik: um. you choose a GNOME or KDE session from the login screen
[04:28] <ardchoille> draik: Yes, simply log out and choose gnome at the login screen
[04:28] <Dhraakellian> but yeah, if I heard that GDM implemented the feature I mentioned above, I'd switch in a heartbeat
[04:29] <draik> Jucato: ardchoille: Ok, so it will choose automatically. Am I correct with this statement?
[04:29] <ardchoille> draik: I believe it's in the options menu on the login screen
[04:29] <ardchoille> draik: It will automatically choose the last session, you need to choose the one you want.
[04:29] <Jucato> draik: yes. from the login screen menu
[04:29] <draik> ardchoille: Right.
[04:29] <DaSkreech> draik: I think by default both of them loginto the last desktop you were using when you logged out
[04:29] <draik> Jucato: That's what I meant. Thank you.
[04:29] <Dhraakellian> although not being able to switch sessions or have two gui logins simultaneously might be troublesome, it would mean that, in an emergency, other people could still log into my computer too, since they wouldn't have to worry about my silly dvorak keyboard layout
[04:30] <DaSkreech>  You can switch that to anyother desktop you want at login time
[04:30] <draik> CTRL+ALT+Backspace works on both Kubuntu and Ubuntu, right?
[04:30] <Dhraakellian> draik: I don't see why it wouldn't
[04:30] <Jucato> draik: yes. because it's an X shortcut
[04:30] <ardchoille> draik: Yes, that's an xorg thing
[04:30] <Jucato> not a KDE or GNOME shortcut
[04:30] <Dhraakellian> it's an X11 thing rather than a DE-specific thing
[04:30] <draik> Dhraakellian: Jucato: ardchoille: Perfect. Thank you
[04:31] <draik> I guess I'm looking at GNOME and KDE as two different "OS"'s
[04:31] <DaSkreech> is alt+ctrl+Esc DE specific
[04:31] <Daisuke_Ido> what's nexuiz?
[04:32] <DaSkreech> draik: Well then stop :)
[04:32] <Jucato> DaSkreech: yep
[04:32] <DaSkreech> !info nexuiz
[04:32] <ubotu> nexuiz: A fast-paced 3D Ego-Shooter. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.3-1 (feisty), package size 593 kB, installed size 1488 kB
[04:32] <draik> DaSkreech: I guess I will :)
[04:32] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: double underline fast paced
[04:32] <Dhraakellian> Daisuke_Ido: it's a F/OSS FPS descended from teh original Quake
[04:32] <Dhraakellian> well, it uses the Darkplaces engine, at least, and that's descended from the original Quake
[04:33] <Dhraakellian> http://alientrap.org/ 2.3 was just released a week or two ago
[04:33] <CPrgmSwR2> How do you setup Kubuntu to rip to mp3?
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> CPrgmSwR2: kaudiocreator
[04:33] <Dhraakellian> !mp3
[04:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> + lame
[04:33] <CPrgmSwR2> thats right
[04:34] <CPrgmSwR2> I need to install lame
[04:34] <draik> What is evolution?
[04:34] <Dhraakellian> draik: email, calendar, etc
[04:34] <Dhraakellian> to quote my father, "what outlook should have been"
[04:34] <draik> Dhraakellian: Thank you
[04:34] <DaSkreech> !info evolution
[04:34] <ubotu> evolution: groupware suite with mail client and organizer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2478 kB, installed size 7704 kB
[04:34] <Dhraakellian> (non verbatim)
[04:35] <DaSkreech> Dhraakellian: What does he base that on?
[04:35] <Daisuke_Ido> Dhraakellian: i've heard about rubyripper, but the rubyforge project doesn't exist anymore
[04:35] <Dhraakellian> Daisuke_Ido: just a sec
[04:35] <Dhraakellian> http://code.google.com/p/rubyripper/
[04:35] <jovi> hi,everybaby,  i ask a quest?   KUBUNTU  would  use taobao_net  wangwang of china?????
[04:35] <draik> Ok. It's done.
[04:35] <Dhraakellian> iirc, the version in the repos is out of date
[04:35] <draik> BRB... under GNOME
[04:35] <Dhraakellian> .4 has been out for a while
[04:35] <Dhraakellian> !info rubyripper
[04:35] <ubotu> Package rubyripper does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:36] <Daisuke_Ido> oh sweet mother of $DEITY
[04:36] <jovi> how to used?
[04:36] <Jucato> jovi: try asking in #ubuntu-cn
[04:36] <Dhraakellian> hmm... must have gotten it from another repo
[04:36] <Aresilek> how do i change file associations in kubuntu?
[04:36] <jovi> Jucato : thanks
[04:36] <Jucato> Aresilek: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror
[04:37] <Dhraakellian> but, yeah, Rubyripper probably isn't anywhere near the quality of EAC or dbpoweramp if you really care about such things
[04:37] <Aresilek> thx Jucato
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> it looks better than kaudiocreator
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> and i do care about such things
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> oink gets upset if i don't :\
[04:38] <Dhraakellian> however, if EAC doesn't want to cooperate with your Wine setup or if you don't like using gratis-only software, Rubyripper probably does better ripping than other cdparanoia frontends
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> granted the gui is friggin ugly, but meh
[04:38] <Jucato> n8k99: hush :P
[04:38] <Dhraakellian> Daisuke_Ido: yeah, I was trying not to mention OPP
[04:38] <Dhraakellian> !;)
[04:38] <jovi> i used English vesion , don't input chinese ? how to??
[04:39] <Daisuke_Ido> ah ha
[04:39] <Daisuke_Ido> so far i've had no problems with any of my submissions to OPP
[04:40] <Dhraakellian> woah, wait, what?
[04:40] <Dhraakellian> why the feisty am I only running at 54Hz?
[04:40] <Daisuke_Ido> mine says that too
[04:40] <Daisuke_Ido> i do believe it's actually 60hz
[04:40] <Dhraakellian> no, it's just that I know for a fact that this monitor is capable of a heckuva lot more than that
[04:41] <Dhraakellian> ardchoille: "heck of a"
[04:41] <ardchoille> hehe
[04:41] <n8k99> heckuva >= a whole bunch
[04:42] <BluesKaj> Dhraakellian, have you checked out the system settings for your graphics card ?
[04:42] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: LCD monitor?
[04:42] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: IBM 6557 P92
[04:42] <Dhraakellian> 19" behemoth CRT
[04:43] <Jucato> aah.. if you have an OSD that displays the Info for your monitor, trust that more than the control module :)
[04:43] <Biovore> oO
[04:43] <Dhraakellian> ah, okay, here we go
[04:43] <evsophomore2009> Can someone help me!!!!!!!!!
[04:43] <Dhraakellian> now it's showing me 75Hz as an option
[04:44] <Jucato> although in this instance, i trust display config more than kde's built in display module :)
[04:44] <n8k99> evsophomore2009: ask your question
[04:44] <Jucato> er "displayconfig"
[04:44] <Jucato> !someone | evsophomore2009
[04:44] <ubotu> evsophomore2009: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:44] <evsophomore2009> okay so im trying to download Sun Java 5. and for some reason, it wont go past 4%
[04:44] <Biovore> this though apt?
[04:44] <evsophomore2009> every time i try to download somthing on Adept Manager, it will NEVER finish downloading
[04:45] <n8k99> you need to look in the details and approve the liscense
[04:45] <Biovore> sun java is probably not making it because its prompting for a license..
[04:45] <shiers69> When i try to install from a live cd (kubuntu 7.04) while only having my blank scsi disk installed i receive the "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" error, is there a fix for this yet?
[04:45] <Dhraakellian> hmm... but only in admin mode
[04:45] <evsophomore2009> so how do i stop the download?
[04:45] <n8k99> is it still downloading now?
[04:45] <Biovore> evsophomore2009: try installing sun java from the command line using "sudo apt-get install <package_name>
[04:46] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, you have to check the details and say yes to the agrements with java DLs
[04:46] <evsophomore2009> theres no option to stop it, and when i close out of it, it wont let me load Apept because "another file is installing" but i cant open it
[04:46] <BluesKaj> agreements
[04:46] <draik> My question now is... How do I remove the ugly orange color stuff on Ubuntu?
[04:46] <n8k99> evsophomore2009: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:46] <shiers69> draik: install a theme
[04:46] <n8k99> that will let teh package manager finish up
[04:47] <BluesKaj> yup
[04:47] <Dhraakellian> okay, I'm going to try restarting X again
[04:47] <ardchoille> draik: Change the theme. iirc, it's System -> Personal -> Theme or something
[04:47] <evsophomore2009> n8k99: sudo apt-get install <package_name>
[04:47] <draik> ardchoille: Thank you. Beat me to my question.
[04:47] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[04:47] <evsophomore2009> n8k99: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[04:47] <Biovore> hmm adept running or apt process of some kind?
[04:47] <draik> ardchoille: Well, that crashed out
[04:48] <ardchoille> draik: You in kde right now?
[04:48] <draik> ardchoille: Nope. GNOME
[04:48] <Jucato> draik: change your GNOME theme
[04:48] <evsophomore2009> well Adept is running right now, but if i close the Installation, i wont ever be able to get back into Adept
[04:48] <draik> Jucato: It crashed
[04:48] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:48] <Jucato> System -> Personal -> Theme
[04:49] <Jucato> draik: dunno why it would crash
[04:49] <ardchoille> draik: Try asking in #ubuntu, they can give you better advice than I.
[04:49] <Biovore> If 1000/400 = 4 then computer geek you be
[04:49] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, you can only run one pkg manager scrn at a time
[04:49] <DaSkreech> !adept crash fix | evsophomore2009
[04:49] <ubotu> evsophomore2009: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:50] <evsophomore2009> Okay so i want to run Frostwire
[04:50] <evsophomore2009> it says i need Java 1.5x
[04:50] <evsophomore2009> how do i get that?
[04:51] <n8k99> !java
[04:51] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:51] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, have you unlocked the pkg manager ?, if not you can't install anything until you do
[04:51] <evsophomore2009> yes its unlocked
[04:52] <louis_> anybody know how to turn off those annoying sounds when you open and close a window?
[04:52] <draik> Well, I'm not bad mouthing one or the other, but I can see why people would choose KDE over GNOME
[04:52] <shiers69> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"  <--Anyone know wtf that's about?
[04:52] <n8k99> louis_: system settings > notifications
[04:52] <evsophomore2009> n8k99: Can you help me install java without using Adept
[04:53] <BluesKaj> louis , system settings / notifications/ turn off all sounds/apply
[04:53] <evsophomore2009> Because im using Kubuntu Edgy (6.10)
[04:53] <Biovore> evsophomore2009: once you get the apt thing unlocked.. do the following
[04:53] <Biovore> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-fonts
[04:53] <evsophomore2009> Biovore: it says i cant use Adept to install java on Kubuntu Edgy
[04:53] <jrattner> Question: I'm trying to connect to my laptop via bluetooth (Ubuntu 7.04) and its asking me for the Passkey....What is the passkey?
[04:53] <jrattner> ?
[04:53] <DaSkreech> draik: less letters to type?
[04:53] <Biovore> evsophomore2009: yes.. use the command line interface and type that command in..
[04:53] <draik> DaSkreech: That too!
[04:53] <evsophomore2009> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:53] <evsophomore2009> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Biovore: he needs backports turned on
[04:54] <Biovore> adept running?
[04:54] <louis_> n8k99, thanks
[04:54] <Biovore> is he running edgy or older?
[04:54] <n8k99> louis_: your welcome
[04:54] <louis_> well that takes care of that!
[04:54] <ardchoille> evsophomore2009: ps aux | grep adept    <- does that return more than one line?
[04:55] <louis_> !beryl
[04:55] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:55] <evsophomore2009> Reading package lists... Done
[04:55] <evsophomore2009> Building dependency tree
[04:55] <evsophomore2009> Reading state information... Done
[04:55] <evsophomore2009> E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-bin
[04:55] <DaSkreech> Biovore: Edgy
[04:55] <Biovore> oh..
[04:55] <Biovore> yeah.. have to enable backports then..
[04:55] <evsophomore2009> whats that?
[04:55] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, your pkg manager is still locked up ...you have run the " sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a "  command and relogin
[04:55] <ardchoille> !repos
[04:55] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:56] <BluesKaj> anyway , it's sacktime for me
[04:56] <BluesKaj> nite all
[04:57] <ardchoille> nn BlueDevil
[04:57] <ardchoille> Opps, tab completion bit me
[04:57] <DaSkreech> ha ha I have to call him BlueDevil next time he logs in
[04:57] <rodrigo> #translator
[04:58] <rodrigo> #list
[04:58] <war8> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[04:58] <draik> How do I find out my KDE version? Does it apply when I'm in GNOME?
[04:58] <Jucato> draik: "kde-config --version"
[04:58] <n8k99> draik: or in any menu > help> about kde
[04:59] <Jucato> n8k99: 2nd part of the question :)
[04:59] <Jucato> draik: stop thinking of KDE and GNOME as different OS's and start thinking of them as programs. it will help you not get confused :)
[04:59] <draik> 3.5.6
[04:59] <n8k99> oh yeah-
[04:59] <shiers69> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"  <--Anyone know wtf that's about? happens when booting from the livecd.
[05:00] <evsophomore2009> n8k99: Now my Adept Manager wont open!!1
[05:00] <Jucato> n8k99: heh me too :)
[05:00] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: lets try and fix the java problem first
[05:00] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[05:00] <n8k99> did you login back in?
[05:01] <evsophomore2009> DaSkreech: Okay im on Adept, and im on the Manage Resp. Now what?
[05:01] <louis_> hey, can somebody explain the difference between a desktop environment and a windows manager?
[05:02] <rodrigo> guys one doubt
[05:02] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: look for a set of lines that says backports
[05:02] <louis_> fluxbox is a WM and KDE is a DE right?
[05:02] <DaSkreech> louis_: right
[05:02] <rodrigo> can I have kubuntu and ubuntu at the same time?
[05:02] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: good time to ask that question
[05:02] <DaSkreech> draik: want to take that one?
[05:02] <ardchoille> shiers69: I don't know how to solve that, but here are some links to maybe help: http://tinyurl.com/2jrdto
[05:02] <rodrigo> hey dask what's up my man!
[05:02] <rodrigo> daskreech
[05:02] <evsophomore2009> DaSkreech: A set of lines that says Backports? Cant find it
[05:02] <DaSkreech> hey rodrigo :)
[05:02] <shiers69> archoille: i've been looking all day w/ no avail
[05:02] <draik> DaSkreech: What to take what?
[05:03] <draik> rodrigo: DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:03] <evsophomore2009> daskreech: Found it, it says
[05:03] <DaSkreech> draik: the question can you have Kubuntu and ubuntu at the same time
[05:03] <rodrigo> daskreech what?
[05:03] <draik> rodrigo: I mean, sure. I don't see why not
[05:03] <evsophomore2009> Edgy-Backports Main Restricted
[05:03] <Daisuke_Ido> rodrigo: it works just fine :)
[05:03] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: yes. Enables that
[05:03] <draik> rodrigo: I just did it not too long about... about 10-15 mintues ago
[05:03] <evsophomore2009> both
[05:03] <evsophomore2009> ?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> Jucato: java is in restricted ?
[05:04] <rodrigo> draik: do what?
[05:04] <Jucato> DaSkreech: multiverse
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Jucato: blast
[05:04] <draik> rodrigo: Ubuntu and Kubuntu at the same time
[05:04] <draik> I'm on Ubuntu right now.
[05:04] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: do you see a backports with multiverse?
[05:04] <draik> I was on Kubuntu about 15 minutes ago
[05:04] <Jucato> DaSkreech: which is enabled by default in feisty.
[05:04] <evsophomore2009> yes there are two
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Jucato: edgy
[05:04] <rodrigo> draik:  ahh  and it't bad or something?
[05:04] <evsophomore2009> one is Deb, and the other is Deb-Src
[05:04] <Jucato> ah I see
[05:04] <n8k99> Jucato: he's not on feist
[05:04] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: ok enable the backports wiith multiverse
[05:04] <n8k99> y
[05:05] <Jucato> n8k99: <Jucato> ah I see
[05:05] <evsophomore2009> Daskreech: Done
[05:05] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: you don't need the deb-src one
[05:05] <DaSkreech> doesn't hurt
[05:05] <rodrigo> hey daskreech: I have an  easy duck for you now
[05:05] <DaSkreech> but you don't need it
[05:05] <draik> rodrigo: I'm getting frustrated with Ubuntu right now, that's all. It's worth doing. If for nothing else, just to say you did it
[05:05] <evsophomore2009> kk done
[05:05] <Jucato> DaSkreech: it does hurt if he doesn't need it. makes apt-get update longer
[05:05] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: save and fetch updates
[05:05] <jovi> ask question?   how to input chinese in  ubuntu  ???
[05:05] <evsophomore2009> okay brb REAL quick
[05:05] <Jucato> !scim
[05:05] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[05:05] <Jucato> jovi: ^^^^^
[05:05] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I know but how big can deb-src for multiverse be? :-) by definition it's not open source
[05:06] <rodrigo> talking me about frustration: My scan doesn't work with linux, I see a cool graphic tablet that doens't have linux drivers
[05:06] <rodrigo> I have tried to install a program too long
[05:06] <Jucato> DaSkreech: it can be quite big. and you have a wrong definition of multiverse
[05:06] <rodrigo> cinelerra
[05:06] <rodrigo> for too long
[05:06] <Jucato> or rather, an incomplete one
[05:06] <n8k99> rodrigo: scanner or pen tablet input
[05:06] <rodrigo> both
[05:06] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I guess I do then
[05:07] <Jucato> DaSkreech: mplayer is definitely open source, but it's in multiverse
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Ph Jucato do you know anything about segmentation core dumps?
[05:07] <rodrigo> I do really must talk with the linux art people
[05:07] <Jucato> DaSkreech: Ph no...
[05:07] <rodrigo> they had abandon us
[05:07] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: try #oxygen or #plasma
[05:07] <Jucato> ?
[05:07] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: or art4linux.org
[05:07] <Jucato> what does plasma have to do with it?
[05:07] <DaSkreech> http://art4linux.org
[05:07] <Jucato> or oxygen even?
[05:08] <DaSkreech> Jucato: art dudes hang there
[05:08] <evsophomore2009> daskreech: Back
[05:08] <DaSkreech> he's been trying to get cinelerra to install from like last week
[05:08] <DaSkreech> It's installed now but segfaults
[05:08] <draik> I feel sorry for all the little kids outside playing with their parents
 talking me about frustration: My scan doesn't work with linux, I see a cool graphic tablet that doens't have linux drivers
[05:08] <n8k99> oh yikes
[05:08] <rodrigo> yea
[05:08] <DaSkreech> He gave up on cinelerra
[05:09] <rodrigo> no no no
[05:09] <rodrigo> I haven't give up my dear friend
[05:09] <rodrigo> just step by step
[05:09] <DaSkreech> now he wants to get his lexmark scanner/printer working
[05:09] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: great
[05:09] <draik> I'm about to scream some obscene words about Ubuntu's GDM  theme crap... I can't do jack with it
[05:09] <sebastianhooker> hey, uhh, question
[05:09] <n8k99> lexmark?!!1
[05:09] <DaSkreech> draik: KDE's themes are worse
[05:09] <rodrigo> yep one all in one
[05:09] <DaSkreech> !ask sebastianhooker
[05:09] <Jucato> draik: hm?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> !ask | sebastianhooker
[05:09] <ubotu> sebastianhooker: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:10] <sebastianhooker> if you went camping with your friend and got really really drunk, woke up the next morning with a condom in your ass, would you tell anyone?
[05:10] <Jucato> !offtopic | sebastianhooker
[05:10] <ubotu> sebastianhooker: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:10] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: do you still have the URL for the pastebin ?
[05:10] <rodrigo> hey daskreech what are the topic of oxygen and plasma?
[05:10] <draik> DaSkreech: I can't do anything with the Theme Manager in Ubuntu. It freezes up
[05:10] <rodrigo> nope
[05:10] <n8k99> !language | sebastianhooker
[05:10] <ubotu> sebastianhooker: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:10] <rodrigo> send it please bro
[05:10] <sebastianhooker> rodrigo: you wouldn't tell anyone?
[05:10] <draik> Jucato: I can't do anything. Theme Manager in Ubuntu keeps freezing. I can't select the damn thing I downloaded for the new Theme I want to use
[05:10] <DaSkreech> sebastianhooker: please stay on topic
[05:10] <DaSkreech> draik: filea bug :)
[05:11] <sebastianhooker> DaSkreech: would you tell anyone?
[05:11] <DaSkreech> !paste
[05:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:11] <draik> That's what it keeps telling me to do
[05:11] <draik> Screw it
[05:11] <sebastianhooker> !language | draik
[05:11] <ubotu> draik: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:11] <DaSkreech> Jucato: devoice or kick please
[05:11] <draik> sebastianhooker: You want to talk about watching my language? Take a look at your nick
[05:11] <Daisuke_Ido> sebastianhooker: thanks for continuing to rip off bash.
[05:12] <n8k99> draik: easy
[05:12] <sebastianhooker> draik: i can't change my last name douchebag
[05:12] <ardchoille> draik: You can set the theme from the command line.. it's via the gconftool-2
[05:12] <draik> Thank you Jucato
[05:12] <DaSkreech> rodrigo: run cinelerra from the command line again and paste the error
[05:13] <draik> ardchoille: Would you know the complete command?
[05:13] <draik> Ubuntu is really of hardly any help
[05:14] <ardchoille> draik: I haven't used gnome in a while, but the command is something like:  gconftool-2 --set string /path/to/key    you'll have to look up the exact suntax in man gconftool-2
[05:14] <draik> Thank you
[05:16] <DaSkreech> n8k99: yes lexmark
[05:16] <Daisuke_Ido> lexmark.  ancient greek for "satan"
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Which is ancient celtic for compaq
[05:17] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm, my translation must be off, i got "Packard Bell"
[05:17] <DaSkreech> 6 of one 1/2 dozen of the other
[05:18] <Daisuke_Ido> true, true
[05:19] <draik> ardchoille: gconftool-2 --install-schema-file=FILENAME
[05:19] <wsjunior> what's the package that contains c libraries manpages?
[05:19] <Rictoo_> How do I see what partitions I have form shell?
[05:19] <draik> ardchoille: What do I put in for a file name?
[05:19] <n8k99> good luck with that $PRINTER_FROM_THE_FIERY_PIT
[05:19] <DaSkreech> Rictoo_: df I think
[05:20] <ardchoille> draik: I haven't used that in a while, can't remember the exact commands :(
[05:20] <DaSkreech> Rictoo_: or you could ls /dev/hd* /dev/sd*
[05:20] <TheCreationist> My friend and I are trying to connect our PCs with Krdc and Krfb, but she's behind a router so the invitation doesn't seem to work.  How can I connect to her computer when she has a router?
[05:20] <draik> ardchoille: It's ok. I thank you for your time and patience with me.
[05:20] <ardchoille> :)
[05:20] <draik> Time to do the unthinkable... ask Ubuntu
[05:21] <ardchoille> draik: An easier way to install that theme is to simply unpack it into ~/.themes
[05:21] <n8k99> TheCreationist: she needs to forward the router table to allow vnc to go to Port:100
[05:21] <draik> ardchoille: That works for me!
[05:21] <TheCreationist> n8k99: You wouldn't happen to know how we do that, do you?
[05:21] <n8k99> TheCreationist: sorry not port 100 but the ifconfig ip address she is at
[05:21] <ardchoille> draik: Then you can: gconftool-2 --type string --set /path/to/key "theme name"   but you'll have to figure out the path to key bit
[05:22] <namol> TheCreationist, port 5900 actually
[05:22] <ardchoille> draik: There's an example of that in man gconftool-2
[05:22] <namol> is vnc
[05:22] <draik> ardchoille: What is the key?
[05:22] <TheCreationist> namol: How does she set her router up to allow that?
[05:22] <n8k99> TheCreationist: shen needs to configure her router (usually @ 192.168.1.100)
[05:22] <namol> TheCreationist, she needs to configure port forwarding on her router
[05:23] <Rictoo_> How do I see my physical drives and where the partitions are located on them from shell?
[05:23] <namol> also, what ip address are you trying to connect too?
[05:23] <war8> yui
[05:23] <DaSkreech> Rictoo_: what do you need to know?
[05:23] <ardchoille> draik: Open gconf-editor and look in the /apps key to find the theme.. I think it's /apps/gnome/desktop/theme or something like that. That tree in gconf-editor is the same as the /path/to/key (you'll see it in the bottom left of the status bar in gconf-editor)
[05:23] <TheCreationist> namol: Her invitation is sending me to an IP address 192.168.11.2
[05:23] <namol> if it's an internal ip address, ie the 192.168.x.x schema
[05:23] <DaSkreech> hi war8
[05:23] <TheCreationist> namol: But that's internal, isn't it?
[05:24] <namol> TheCreationist, that's an internal ip, you need the external ip
[05:24] <TheCreationist> namol: How would she find that?
[05:24] <namol> you'll need to find out her external ip
[05:24] <n8k99> http://whatsmyip.com
[05:24] <ardchoille> draik: btw, you can use gconftool-2 to set almost everything in gnome (ie icon theme, window manager theme, control theme, desktop wallpaper, etc)
[05:24] <namol> have her go to http://www.acction.com/~plowther/ip.php
[05:25] <namol> that'll tell her the external ip address
[05:25] <draik> ardchoille: I hope all of this works
[05:25] <namol> or n8k99's website works too
[05:25] <wsjunior> is there any package that provide manpages for c libraries?
[05:26] <TheCreationist> namol: Okay, she found her external IP... now what?
[05:26] <ardchoille> draik: Also, have a look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/   <- that's one of the best sites for Ubuntu
[05:26] <namol> connect to that external ip, what happens?
[05:26] <TheCreationist> namol: Same thing... nothing.
[05:26] <n8k99> TheCreationist: you need to send krdc to her vnc://external ip
[05:26] <TheCreationist> namol: Connection eventually fails.
[05:27] <DaSkreech> wsjunior: I'd assume libcsomething
[05:27] <DaSkreech> Rictoo_: ping
[05:27] <namol> TheCreationist, does she have admin permissions on the router?
[05:27] <n8k99> TheCreationist: she still needs to forward her router to allow vnc to go to her machine
[05:27] <TheCreationist> namol: I'm sure she does.
[05:27] <namol> have her go to 192.168.11.1 in her web browser
[05:28] <wsjunior> DaSkreech: tried glibc-doc but didnt work
[05:28] <DaSkreech> What does that install?
[05:29] <n8k99> TheCreationist:  or 192.168.1.1
[05:29] <namol> n8k99, her invite she sent was 192.168.11.2
[05:29] <namol> so if it's the standard subnet, it's going to be 192.168.11.1 as the gateway
[05:29] <TheCreationist> namol: I've seen her router and it mentions the IP address for the actualy router as 192.168.11.1
[05:29] <n8k99> namol: right-
[05:30] <TheCreationist> namol: Okay, she's wondering why her password doesn't work.  Is it the same as the WEP for her network?
[05:30] <namol> TheCreationist, no
[05:30] <namol> what type of router is it?
[05:30] <namol> did she ever reset the default admin password?
[05:31] <wsjunior> DaSkreech: just html files
[05:31] <wsjunior> i would like to have man math.h working
[05:31] <DaSkreech> wsjunior: wait. You want a man file for the libs?
[05:31] <wsjunior> or something similar
[05:31] <ardchoille> draik: You still working on it? I found some new info
[05:31] <Jucato> c libraries/headers
[05:31] <wsjunior> got it?
[05:31] <wsjunior> ya
[05:31] <ardchoille> draik: What's the theme name?
[05:31] <TheCreationist> namol: I hope she changed the default... she's trying right now ;)
[05:31] <draik> ardchoille: Where do I find my trash can?
[05:31] <wsjunior> whats the package for the c libs/headers manpages Jucato?
[05:32] <Jucato> draik: in GNOME? it's ~/.Trash
[05:32] <ardchoille> draik: To set the theme using conftool-2: gconftool-2 --type string --set /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme "theme-name"
[05:32] <namol> TheCreationist, it's no big deal if she didn't, by default the remote admin feature is disable on most soho routers
[05:32] <Jucato> wsjunior: searching...
[05:32] <TheCreationist> namol: She said she doesn't remember the password, but knows the user name is root.  The router is a "Buffalo Air Station"
[05:33] <wsjunior> Jucato: already tried glibc-doc.. its not what im looking for..
[05:34] <Jucato> !info manpages-dev
[05:34] <ubotu> manpages-dev: Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development. In component main, is optional. Version 2.39-1 (feisty), package size 1185 kB, installed size 2916 kB
[05:34] <Jucato> try that wsjunior ^^
[05:34] <Jucato> er wait...
[05:34] <namol> TheCreationist, tell her to try root with no password
[05:34] <namol> see if that works
[05:35] <TheCreationist> namol: Never mind... she figured it out.  Had to do with the middle green light at the top right of her keyboard ;)
[05:35] <namol> the caps lock?
[05:35] <Jucato> wsjunior: try manpages-dev or try using info instead of man.
[05:35] <TheCreationist> namol: yep
[05:35] <namol> lol
[05:35] <namol> ok
[05:35] <TheCreationist> namol: :)
[05:35] <DaSkreech> wsjunior: are you sure what you are looking for exists?
[05:35] <TheCreationist> namol: So she's into the config now.
[05:35] <namol> now have her look for some sort of applications tab
[05:35] <namol> there should be some form of port forwarding in there
[05:36] <wsjunior> DaSkreech: im sure it exists for freebsd
[05:36] <wsjunior> not for linux..
[05:36] <evsophomore2009> DaSckreech: Thanks for helpin me, i got Frostwire to work =D
[05:36] <wsjunior> Jucato: wrong package dude
[05:36] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: great :)
[05:36] <evsophomore2009> g2g Peace
[05:36] <TheCreationist> namol: She sees "port mapping for internet games"
[05:36] <wsjunior> DaSkreech: something like this: http://threads.seas.gwu.edu/cgi-bin/man2web?program=math&section=3
[05:37] <Jucato> DaSkreech: it does exist iirc. just looking for the correct package
[05:38] <DaSkreech> okie :)
[05:38] <wsjunior> freebsd-manpages, Jucato?
[05:38] <Jucato> wsjunior: of course not that
[05:39] <namol> let me look on buffalo's website
[05:40] <TheCreationist> namol: Yeah, she doesn't see anything about port forwarding.
[05:41] <Jucato> wsjunior: manpages-dev does it for me. at least for C (not C++)
[05:42] <wsjunior> not for me
[05:42] <Jucato> how are you checking? "man printf" works here
[05:42] <wsjunior> what about man math or math.h
[05:42] <Jucato> "man stdio" too
[05:42] <n8k99> TheCreationist: maybe something says Applications and Gaming
[05:42] <wsjunior> does it works for u?
[05:42] <wsjunior> not for me
[05:42] <Jucato> not math
[05:42] <wsjunior> so its not what im looking for
[05:42] <wsjunior> :)
[05:43] <wsjunior> going back to freebsd :-p
[05:43] <Jucato> um... just because it doesn't have math.h doesn't mean it's not for the C headers/libraries. because stdio, string, printf, etc are definitely there
[05:44] <Jucato> sheesh! talk about patience
[05:44] <n8k99> Jucato: is "patience" ontopif?
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Jucato: he wants man pages for all the C headers?
[05:45] <n8k99> s/on topic/ontopif
[05:45] <DaSkreech> I've never heard of that
[05:45] <DaSkreech> my ls /usr/share/man/man3 is anemic
[05:48] <DaSkreech> Oooh Oooh is it me? Do I get flowers?
[05:50] <n8k99> no way- it's me - i know it's me this time
[05:50] <DaSkreech> Murderer!!!
[05:50] <DaSkreech> After all he did for the community!!!
[05:50] <n8k99> not a baby tux!!
[05:50] <Jucato> cruelty to animals
[05:51] <n8k99> shish!
[05:51] <TheCreationist> namol: Any luck?
[05:51] <namol> nope
[05:51] <namol> look under applications
[05:51] <namol> and look for some advanced settings
[05:52] <n8k99> namol it may just be a table
[05:53] <namol> could bed
[05:53] <namol> be
[05:53] <TheCreationist> namol: She said there's no "Applications" section, but she's been looking under advanced settings with no luck.
[05:53] <namol> i use openwrt on mine
[05:53] <namol> there's no applications tab or anything?
[05:53] <n8k99> there was an internet gamings tab right?
[05:53] <namol> what about a network tab
[05:54] <Messito> somebody help me please
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Messito: sure
[05:55] <namol> Messito, did that help?
[05:55] <TheCreationist> namol: This is what she said she has:    network config : route info NAT   IP filter   Intrusion Detector   UPnP
[05:55] <Messito> DaSkreech thanx
[05:55] <Messito> The utility unrar is not in your PATH.
[05:55] <Messito> Please install it or contact your system administrator.
[05:55] <DaSkreech> !unrar
[05:55] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:55] <DaSkreech> There you go
[05:55] <namol> sudo apt-get install unrar
[05:55] <namol> sudo apt-get install rar
[05:56] <TheCreationist> namol: And "internet games: Port translation configuration"
[05:56] <namol> from the console
[05:56] <namol> TheCreationist, have her go to that
[05:56] <Messito> namol which one the first or the second?
[05:56] <namol> Messito, both
[05:56] <n8k99> TheCreationist: internet game!!!
[05:56] <Messito> oK
[05:57] <mike_> Is anyone in here famillar with Frostwire?
[05:57] <TheCreationist> mike_: I am.
[05:57] <TheCreationist> mike_: What do you need?
[05:58] <mike_> cam you tell me if its possible to exit out of it, without it actuilly ending the app
[05:58] <mike_> like, i want it to go down to the system tray
[05:58] <TheCreationist> mike_: Keep it in the tray?  I haven't been able to find that setting either.
[05:58] <mike_> but when i click on the X is closes out
[05:58] <mike_> dang
[05:58] <DaSkreech> It's there
[05:58] <mike_> because its kinda annoying to keep it up
[05:58] <DaSkreech> When I installed it it asked me the first time
[05:58] <DaSkreech>  so it has the pref
[05:58] <mike_> hmm
[05:59] <mike_> TheCreationist: is it possible to get itunes?>
[05:59] <solid_liq> anyone know why, when I try to print in feisty, cups gives me the error: request entity too large?
[05:59] <TheCreationist> mike_: Ew.  Why would you want it?
[05:59] <mike_> well i need to put music on my iPod
[05:59] <mike_> i know, i cant stand it either
[05:59] <mike_> and idk how to get music on my iPod without it
[06:00] <n8k99> doesn't amarok detect your ipod?
[06:00] <dogatemycomputer> !ipod
[06:00] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[06:01] <mike_> okay hold on let me try
[06:03] <mike_> n8k99: How do i open up my iPod on Amarok?
[06:03] <Zeelot3k> hey guys, is there some way I can have scripts run before I login?
[06:03] <DaSkreech> !autorun
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autorun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <hikaricore> Devices on the bottom left?
[06:03] <sfire> Zeelot3k: yes rc.local
[06:04] <Zeelot3k> what is that?
[06:04] <n8k99> mike_ there should be a tab called devices on teh left that provides and interface
[06:04] <dogatemycomputer> Zeelot3k: you can have a script run at login..
[06:04] <DaSkreech> dogatemycomputer: before login
[06:04] <sfire> Zeelot3k: /etc/rc.local
[06:04] <sfire> Zeelot3k: its like a autoexec.bat file
[06:05] <Zeelot3k> thanks
[06:05] <mike_> it says no Mountable Medium Found
[06:05] <n8k99> dumbe question: is your ipod connected (physically)?
[06:05] <mike_> Yes
[06:06] <mike_> it shows up on my desktop
[06:06] <mike_> but not Amarok
[06:06] <mike_> oh nevermind
[06:06] <mike_> it found it i guess
[06:06] <n8k99> oh- how about that!
[06:06] <dthacker> my Dell Inspiron 5100 has been shutting down due to temperature.  Is there a montor I can install?  I'm on Kubuntu Fiesty?
[06:06] <sfire> get your other problems fixed mike_?
[06:07] <mike_> sfire: Excuse me?
[06:07] <sfire> weren't you here yesterday ?
[06:07] <mike_> no
[06:08] <sfire> oh different person then
[06:08] <flowingfire> Hello everybody.  How do I get network manager to stop starting on boot?  It's not in the .kde/autostart folder.... ???
[06:08] <mike_> lol sorry if i sounded rude, i was just kinda confused
[06:08] <n8k99> flowingfire: what are you going to use to connect to your network?
[06:09] <flowingfire> What do you mean?  I had to manually configure my essid through kcontrol to get it working to begin with.  Network manager is no help.
[06:09] <DaSkreech> mike_: we have had a lot of people logged in with that nick who promise to come back later
[06:09] <DaSkreech> it's a little confusing
[06:09] <flowingfire> Might network manager be okay anyway?
[06:10] <n8k99> are you on a laptop?
[06:10] <flowingfire> Yes, indeed, u8k99
[06:11] <DaSkreech> that's some nice dyslexia :)
[06:11] <Zeelot3k> ok another question, if I log into a linux box with putty and start sending a file with ftp, how can I make it so it doesn't stop if I close putty?
[06:11] <mike_> thats weird
[06:12] <mike_> Hey umm okay, so i have Amarok running, but i know this sounds stupid
[06:12] <sfire> Zeelot3k: the screen command
[06:12] <mike_> but i have songs saved on frostwire
[06:12] <mike_> how do i add it to my iPod?
[06:12] <dthacker> Zeelot3k: use screen
[06:12] <flowingfire> But anyway: Is there another folder with autostart features?  I want to hunt down networkmanager and rid myself of it.
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Zeelot3k: nohup
[06:12] <sfire> Zeelot3k: with the screen command you can detach from a session and resume it later.. even if you disconnect the SSH session
[06:12] <Zeelot3k> hmmm
[06:12] <dthacker> !skype
[06:12] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Zeelot3k: though screen is nicer. But more complex
[06:13] <sfire> flowingfire: just un-install it?
[06:13] <n8k99> mike_: what folder does frostwire save your songs? add that to tyour collection in amarok
[06:13] <mike_> never mind, got it
[06:14] <flowingfire> sfire: That would be too easy, lol.
[06:14] <DaSkreech> mike_: :-D
[06:14] <flowingfire> !anything
[06:14] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[06:14] <TheCreationist> namol: I figured it out, by the way.
[06:14] <mike_> So im happy that i decided to switch to Kubutnu
[06:15] <sfire> flowingfire: the only other way I know is to close it and end your session.. when you log back in it'll remember all the apps you had running and restart them
[06:15] <flowingfire> mike_ : Me too.  It's so much sexier than Windows XP ... bleh!
[06:15] <sfire> that should (don't quote me) stop it from loading
[06:15] <mike_> I liked windows, but i wanted a change, and i was about to change back, but Kubutnu has ALOT more freedom, and its just all around great
[06:15] <flowingfire> sfire: :) cool.... ok
[06:15] <sfire> mike_: I run most of the windows apps I need in wine :)
[06:15] <sfire> works flawlessly
[06:15] <mike_> whats Wine?
[06:15] <DaSkreech> mike_: hang out here a few hours each week. You'll pick up loads of tips
[06:15] <sfire> wine = windows emulator
[06:15] <DaSkreech> mike_: found alt+space yet?
[06:16] <n8k99> sfire: only if you have confiugured sessions to start last session
[06:16] <flowingfire> l8r for now, all. :)
[06:16] <mike_> how do i get wine?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> !wine
[06:16] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:16] <sfire> mike_: sudo apt-get install wine
[06:18] <sfire> nothing is as good as having all your favorite windows apps right inside linux... without running a virtual machine
[06:18] <DaSkreech> sfire: most
[06:19] <DaSkreech> dthacker: check winhq.org
[06:20] <CPrgmSwR2> What package do I need to install the openGL documentation?
[06:20] <Rictoo_> " As far as i understand, you MUST remove all existing xgl/aiglx from your system for this method."
[06:20] <Rictoo_> How do I do that?
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Rictoo_: what method?
[06:21] <Rictoo_> For beryk
[06:21] <Rictoo_> beryl* on nvidia
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Rictoo_: have you asked in #ubuntu-effects ?
[06:22] <Rictoo_> I am
[06:22] <Rictoo_> currenly :\
[06:22] <Schuenemann> !midi
[06:22] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[06:23] <Schuenemann> is midi proprietary?
[06:23] <sfire> no.. its a open standard
[06:23] <sfire> still used in lots of music equipment
[06:24] <Schuenemann> then why can't we play it with the default installation?
[06:24] <n8k99> musical instrument digital interface
[06:25] <n8k99> because you need sound files for the various instruments which are supported by the protocol
[06:26] <n8k99> afaik there has been little effort to create a free instrument sounds library
[06:26] <n8k99> of quality
[06:26] <sfire> there isn't much interest
[06:26] <Schuenemann> what do you mean free?
[06:26] <sfire> (except with musicians)
[06:26] <Schuenemann> isn't free the same as open?
[06:26] <n8k99> even with them- there is the effort
[06:26] <Schuenemann> open standard, as sfire said
[06:27] <n8k99> midi is a protocol- that passes information between componenets
[06:27] <n8k99> your computer and a synthesizer
[06:27] <Schuenemann> hmm
[06:27] <n8k99> for teh computer to play the file- it has to have a sound library
[06:28] <sfire> or use one built into a sound card
[06:28] <n8k99> A4 for instrument #2
[06:28] <dthacker> DaSkreech: winehq says definitely maybe for my version of RCT.  Newer version is platinum pick.
[06:28] <dthacker> tnx
[06:28] <Schuenemann> ok
[06:28] <dthacker> Is there a way to monitor the temperature probes on a Dell laptop?
[06:28] <DaSkreech> dthacker: a thermometer?
[06:29] <sfire> dthacker: yes there is a way... like lmonitor or something like that
[06:29] <sfire> but what good is it going to do for you to watch it burn up?
[06:30] <sfire> dthacker: your time would be much better spent fixing the cooling system on the laptop
[06:30] <sfire> dthacker: they commonly get full of hair and dust.. once you clean it out it'll work like new.. but you have to tear it apart a little bit
[06:30] <sfire> the full instructions are on dells website
[06:30] <dthacker> sfire:  if I can't measure it, how will I know my work is effective?
[06:30] <Schuenemann> what does proprietary format mean?
[06:31] <sfire> when it doesn't shut down ?
[06:31] <sfire> what else really matters?
[06:31] <Schuenemann> like, the format's structure is not revealed to everyone?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: yes
[06:31] <Schuenemann> DaSkreech, but how can programs play mp3, for example?
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: that's more open than most but legally owned by a company
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Zeelot3k: Sup?
[06:32] <Schuenemann> and players have to pay for being able to play it?
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: that's the idea
[06:32] <Zeelot3k> the screen thing heh
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: they just started doing that after it became popular
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Zeelot3k: Where are you lost?
[06:33] <sfire> Schuenemann: like apple paid for MP3 ability on their iPod
[06:33] <Schuenemann> really? amarok pays a company for play mp3?
[06:34] <sfire> Schuenemann: amarok isn't using their code to play the mp3's
[06:34] <sfire> thats the loophole
[06:34] <Zeelot3k> well I don't have putty to try with so I don't know what it's doing...this was for a friend
[06:34] <sfire> just like openoffice doesn't use microsoft office code to open word files
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Zeelot3k: you type screen -x to start screen
[06:34] <Zeelot3k> he wants to send a file to an ftp server but be able to close putty
[06:34] <Schuenemann> and why is apple using that code? :p
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Zeelot3k: run the program that you want then press Ctrl+A Ctrl+D
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Then logout
[06:35] <DaSkreech>  easy
[06:35] <sfire> Schuenemann: because they wanted the "real deal"
[06:35] <Zeelot3k> alright
[06:35] <Schuenemann> that real deal is faster or something?
[06:35] <sfire> Schuenemann: no.. just bullet proof.. they didn't have to re-invent the wheel
[06:36] <Schuenemann> could they use the same code from amarok? or that would violate the license?
[06:37] <sfire> we should continue the conversation in #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:37] <sfire> don't need another mod pissed at me :p
[06:37] <Schuenemann> heh
[06:37] <Schuenemann> I'm almost going to bed
[06:37] <Zeelot3k> DaSkreech: he says that doesn't work
[06:37] <Schuenemann> thanks though
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Zeelot3k: where doesn't it work?
[06:37] <Zeelot3k> I don't know o_o
[06:38] <Zeelot3k> I guess the transfer stops when he logs out
[06:38] <sfire> Zeelot3k: that is ctrl+a then d
[06:38] <sfire> you don't press ctrl when you press d
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Zeelot3k: after he presses ctrl+A ctrl+D type screen -L (I think) to see if the screen is still running
[06:38] <sfire> its a quick ctrl + a then d alone
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Ah right :)
[06:40] <sfire> I use that all the time when I want to leave torrents running in the background
[06:41] <sfire> its also covered in the man page for it.. which is very good reading because the screen command has some neat options that I won't go into here
[06:45] <louis_> hey guys
[06:45] <louis_> i have a font issue
[06:45] <sfire> louis_: yea?
[06:46] <jussi01> louis_: tell us?
[06:46] <SillyZ> question : previiously on ubuntu I was able to tell the x-server to restart when a user logged out and back in, can the same be done in Kubuntu
[06:46] <sfire> SillyZ: I believe it does already
[06:46] <SillyZ> ubuntu had to be specifically told to do so, im assuming the same of Kubuntu
[06:46] <louis_> okay it's kind of long winded and i dont knwo if it's a "problem" per se
[06:47] <louis_> the fonts are kind of fuzzy
[06:47] <louis_> and if i turn off the antialiasing it's too rough
[06:47] <Bandit09> hell yeah guys i love kubuntu. people said running mirc on wine would be slow? hell no it seems FASTER
[06:47] <louis_> is it a resolution issue?
[06:47] <sfire> SillyZ: I don't believe so... mine restarts.. I know because thats the only way for me to change video modes
[06:47] <Bandit09> i just wonder if i can use DLL's
[06:47] <louis_> bc i remember I ran ubuntu with FGLRX a long time ago and that solved the problem.  Here i'm running aiglx and xgl (so i don't really want to mess with that... i like xgl a lot)
[06:48] <sfire> Bandit09: yes you can
[06:48] <Bandit09> sweet
[06:48] <Bandit09> thanks sfire
[06:48] <Bandit09> now i can get my old scrpt back
[06:48] <DaSkreech> Bandit09: lots of stuff runs faster in wine than on windows
[06:48] <Bandit09> yeah
[06:48] <DaSkreech> Bandit09: Heck lots of stuff runs in wine that can't run on windows
[06:49] <Bandit09> this is my first time running something in wine
[06:49] <sfire> I do love my wine :)
[06:49] <DaSkreech> sometimes a little too much
[06:49] <Bandit09> hell yes screw windows - kubuntu is the future
[06:49] <ardchoille> wine if ine but liqur is quicker
[06:49] <Bandit09> i cant believe i ever used bitch ass windows
[06:49] <ardchoille> lol
[06:49] <sfire> we all had to get our start somewhere :)
[06:50] <ardchoille> Another one has seen the light
[06:50] <Bandit09> true
[06:50] <sfire> hehehehe.. I still learn new stuff about windows daily
[06:50] <Bandit09> who needs windows in a world without walls?
[06:50] <Bandit09> :D
[06:50] <DaSkreech> sfire: how many of them involve ways to catch a virus ?
[06:50] <Bandit09> ill answer for him: all
[06:50] <sfire> DaSkreech: very few
[06:50] <louis_> so anybody know what the font issue is?
[06:51] <Bandit09> my bad :)
[06:51] <sfire> DaSkreech: most of my finds have to do with new ways to do my job quicker
[06:51] <sfire> like today I found out about robocopy :)
[06:51] <Bandit09> thing i like about people switching to linux: everyone who does it has made a choice. tons of windows slaves never even know they have a choice
[06:52] <sfire> louis_: what exactly is the font issue ?
[06:52] <DaSkreech> louis_: tried sub pixel hinting?
[06:52] <sfire> louis_: maybe I missed it if you already said so
[06:52] <Bandit09> gonna go try to get my old script back, bbs
[06:52] <louis_> DaSkreech, how do i do that?
[06:52] <sfire> louis_: I found it.. .do you happen to have a nvidia or ATI card?
[06:53] <louis_> haha i already did say so.  hang on, i'll copy and paste, sfire
[06:53] <louis_> ATI ... i know...
[06:53] <sfire> louis_: did you install the "real" driver for it?
[06:54] <louis_> i didn't install anything.  i used the native Feisty driver
[06:54] <sfire> thats probably why
[06:54] <louis_> aiglx, right?
[06:54] <sfire> the generic nvidia driver does the same thing
[06:54] <sfire> that I don't know... I refuse to use ATI crapola... but I'm sure someone can tell you how to install it
[06:55] <louis_> oh okay. what do I need, and can i still use beryl/xgl?
[06:55] <louis_> i'll check the ubuntu-effects channel
[06:55] <louis_> thanks though
[06:55] <sfire> yep
[06:55] <Bandit09> oh yeah i love beryl
[06:55] <sfire> it should work even better
[06:55] <Bandit09> that is really awesome
[06:55] <sfire> I couldn't get beryl to work :(
[06:56] <Bandit09> only thing i just wish i could figure out how to install themes for KDE
[06:56] <louis_> DaSkreech, what is subpixel hinting?
[06:56] <Bandit09> i like the "kore" theme
[06:56] <Bandit09> i can only use it in beryl
[06:56] <DaSkreech> louis_: it's a thingy in kcontrol I think
[06:56] <louis_> and how do i configure it?
[06:57] <Schuenemann> good night
[06:57] <sfire> nite
[06:57] <ayyappan> Hi.
[06:57] <sfire> hi
[06:57] <DaSkreech> louis_: type kcmshell fonts in a console
[06:57] <Schuenemann> see you in another life, brother
[06:58] <DaSkreech> you can turn on anti-aliasing for fonts. then configure and you can try subpixel hinting
[06:58] <ayyappan> i have a problem with my kubuntu here... it wld be fine if u coould help me out
[06:58] <DaSkreech>  i think you have to logout to see the new difference
[06:58] <sfire> ayyappan: just tell us the problem.. we will try
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee hiya
[06:58] <ayyappan> my kubuntu box recently updated to the linux 2.6.20-16 kernel
[06:58] <Tm_T> theshkrieek \o
[06:58] <ayyappan> and i cld no longer boot into the new kernel
[06:59] <ayyappan> seeing my dmesg i see the boot gets locked up stating "attached generic scsi device type 0"
[06:59] <louis__> arrrrrrrrgh... modem crapped out!
[06:59] <louis__> so what's this subpixel hinting and how to i configure it?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> louis_: type kcmshell fonts in a console
[07:00] <DaSkreech> you can turn on anti-aliasing for fonts. then configure and you can try subpixel hinting
[07:00] <DaSkreech>  i think you have to logout to see the new difference
[07:00] <louis__> okay. thank you!
[07:00] <DaSkreech> louis__: ^^^
[07:00] <Hobbsee> hi DaSkreech!
[07:00] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: (:
[07:00] <ayyappan> sfire : seeing my dmesg i see the boot gets locked up stating "attached generic scsi device type 0"
[07:01] <ayyappan> sfire : i am not sure wats happening
[07:01] <louis__> DaSkreech, I don't see subpixel hinting as an option
[07:02] <ayyappan> sfire : got a solution for this or have u guys seen this prb
[07:02] <DaSkreech> louis__: when you click on configure beside anti-aliasing ?
[07:03] <louis__> it's grayed out
[07:04] <DaSkreech> click on the anti-alias checkbox
[07:04] <louis__> OH NVM!  I thought the horizontal bars meant it was selected
[07:04] <louis__> but no.  problem solved ... i am an idiot
[07:04] <louis__> DaSkreech, RBG?
[07:05] <louis__> and full?
[07:05] <DaSkreech> louis__: Yep
[07:06] <louis__> okay. should i restart x server?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> louis__: sure
[07:07] <louis__> wait i don't understand though... shouldn't antialiasing make the fonts fuzzier?
[07:07] <jarn> Is there any way to make it so that when I minimize a fullscreen game my desktop goes back to it's normal resolution?
[07:09] <DaSkreech> louis__: I don't know.   I knwo subpixel hinting worked wonders on my screen
[07:09] <DaSkreech>  some people it makes it look like a blob
[07:09] <DaSkreech> YMMV
[07:10] <louis_> DaSkreech, looks good! thanks!
[07:10] <DaSkreech> louis_: neat
[07:18] <Blast_Hardcheese> o_O
[07:18] <Blast_Hardcheese> SillyZ: That was kinda interesting
[07:19] <Blast_Hardcheese> SillyZ: Anyway, sorry I missed the beginning of your question, You might want to try irc.moofspeak.net #OSx86
[07:19] <SillyZ> Ya it was
[07:19] <SillyZ> Got flamed for just asking about OSX on Intel Hardware, which Apple Sells and Supports to begin with
[07:19] <Blast_Hardcheese> Well,
[07:19] <SillyZ> unbelivable
[07:19] <Blast_Hardcheese> that's to be expected
[07:19] <Blast_Hardcheese> Actually it is,
[07:20] <Blast_Hardcheese> Considering it's illegal to run MacOSx on anything other than apple hardware
[07:20] <louis_> SillyZ, let me guess... apple guys flamed you?
[07:20] <SillyZ> I was just looking for answers to questions, thats it.... didnt ask where to download it, etc, etc, etc
[07:20] <DaSkreech> MMMM roasted apples
[07:20] <louis_> Blast_Hardcheese, no $hit?
[07:20] <Blast_Hardcheese> louis_: yep
[07:20] <SillyZ> and then next thing I know Flame.Suit++
[07:20] <Blast_Hardcheese> SillyZ: What questions did you have?
[07:20] <louis_> that's rediculous!
[07:20] <Blast_Hardcheese> I might be able to help you
[07:21] <SillyZ> Asked about it not running  on both cores on an intel core duo
[07:21] <DaSkreech> louis_: red apples?
[07:21] <SillyZ> and thats about as far as it got
[07:21] <SillyZ> just been doing some reading, and considering osx, but screw that nwo
[07:21] <SillyZ> now
[07:21] <louis_> DaSkreech, i'm not following you
[07:21] <DaSkreech> rediculous
[07:21] <louis_> oh. haha
[07:21] <louis_> oops!
[07:22] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:22] <Blast_Hardcheese> SillyZ: Please don't judge the OSx86 community by the majority of people in #macosx.
[07:22] <Blast_Hardcheese> we're much more interesting ;)
[07:22] <SillyZ> considering apple stole 99.9999% of its code from the linux community to begin with... and they get uppity about it
[07:22] <DaSkreech> SillyZ: they didn't
[07:22] <Blast_Hardcheese> Ah well.
[07:22] <SillyZ> anywho
[07:22] <SillyZ> flame.off
[07:22] <DaSkreech> BSDmaybe
[07:22] <Blast_Hardcheese> if that's your mentality then maybe I can't help you
[07:22] <SillyZ> thanks blast
[07:22] <louis_> considering apple users shit snobbism and pseudo-intellectuality
[07:22] <Blast_Hardcheese> DaSkreech: BSD... maybe like 50%+
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[07:23] <louis_> lol well most of them in any case
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Linux no they took KHTML and they gave back
[07:23] <louis_> i can seriously pick a mac user out of a crowd
[07:23] <Blast_Hardcheese> louis_: Of course
[07:23] <Blast_Hardcheese> I'll be the one with the apple hat ;)
[07:23] <DaSkreech> louis_: and *nix people don't?
[07:23] <louis_> Point taken...
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Course apple is now *nix ...
[07:23] <louis_> at least we don't feel good about paying for overpriced bull
[07:24] <DaSkreech> ha ha
[07:24] <DaSkreech> in any case
[07:24] <DaSkreech> !O-T
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about o-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <DaSkreech> !OT
[07:24] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:24] <Blast_Hardcheese> louis_: it's not like I buy apple desktops.
[07:24] <Blast_Hardcheese> laptops... yes.
[07:24] <Blast_Hardcheese> Desktops, I'll make myself.
[07:24] <louis_> haha I don't mean to pick on you, blast
[07:24] <sfire> lets continue it in #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:24] <Blast_Hardcheese> good idea
[07:24] <louis_> see you guys there
[07:24] <Blast_Hardcheese> louis_: 's OK
[07:30] <jarn> How does Xnest work?
[07:31] <DaSkreech> Under pressure
[07:31] <hendaus> somebody help please!
[07:32] <DaSkreech> !somebody
[07:32] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:33] <jarn> DaSkreech: Xnest works under pressure? :P
[07:33] <DaSkreech> !ask | hendaus
[07:33] <ubotu> hendaus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:33] <DaSkreech> jarn: it makes a self contained X view I think
[07:33] <jarn> DaSkreech: Yeah, but I want to know how to use it. :(
[07:34] <DaSkreech> Oh
[07:34] <DaSkreech> Umm
[07:34] <DaSkreech> I used to just run Xnest and play with it
[07:34] <jarn> DaSkreech: I can't even figure out how to run it.
[07:35] <DaSkreech> jarn: is it installed?
[07:35] <jarn> DaSkreech: Yes.
[07:35] <jarn> DaSkreech: Oh, there we go...
[07:35] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:36] <jarn> DaSkreech: The man page says to do "Xnest -display <display>" but that doesn't work, you have to do "Xnest <display>"
[07:36] <waltercool> hi there... i have a problem
[07:36] <waltercool> kubuntu installation isnt writting in grub :S
[07:36] <DaSkreech> waltercool: we may have answers
[07:36] <waltercool> xD
[07:36] <DaSkreech> waltercool: you don't get an option to boot into linux ?
[07:36] <jarn> DaSkreech: Do you know how to do something with it? All that happens when I run it is a gray window. If I could get to a command line...
[07:36] <waltercool> i pass directly to grub console :S
[07:37] <DaSkreech> jarn: wouldn't be a xnest then ...
[07:37] <DaSkreech> waltercool: ahhh
[07:37] <DaSkreech> !grub
[07:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:37] <waltercool> ...
[07:37] <waltercool> i dont have windows
[07:38] <waltercool> after kubuntu installation
[07:38] <DaSkreech> waltercool: no the second link
[07:39] <waltercool> DaSkreech: But why dont create me a default conf?
[07:39] <waltercool> i have grub...
[07:39] <jarn> DaSkreech: What do you mean? It is Xnest.
[07:39] <DaSkreech> waltercool: not sure. I'd need a history of what you did
[07:39] <waltercool> DaSkreech: install kubuntu
[07:40] <Bandit09> tite as hell i love wine
[07:40] <waltercool> DaSkreech: but installation dont create me a grub.conf
[07:40] <DaSkreech> waltercool: Hmm that's odd
[07:40] <waltercool> -.-
[07:41] <DaSkreech> waltercool: did you install with a live cd or an alternate?
[07:41] <waltercool> cd
[07:41] <DaSkreech> Oh duh
[07:41] <waltercool> feisty
[07:41] <DaSkreech> desktop you logged in as ubuntu
[07:41] <waltercool> kubuntu
[07:41] <DaSkreech> can you mount your hard drive?
[07:41] <waltercool> yes
[07:41] <waltercool> but idk all parameters of a grub.conf
[07:41] <waltercool> and a specific kubuntu
[07:42] <DaSkreech> waltercool: shouldn't need one I just need you to check that a kernel is there
[07:42] <DaSkreech> in /boot
[07:42] <waltercool> yes
[07:42] <waltercool> exist
[07:42] <waltercool> vmlinuz...
[07:43] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:43] <DaSkreech> try a grub-install
[07:43] <waltercool> but in livecd :S
[07:43] <waltercool> that can be assassin
[07:44] <DaSkreech> waltercool: follow the steps in the first link
[07:45] <waltercool> ok...
[07:46] <DaSkreech> waltercool: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0
[07:46] <DaSkreech> that section
[07:46] <DaSkreech> waltercool: as I understand it Kubuntu is the only thing on the computer?
[07:46] <sfire> oh man... someone needed that earlier
[07:46] <sfire> the only way I could tell them to fix it was a re-install :(
[07:48] <waltercool> DaSkreech: ah?
[07:48] <waltercool> DaSkreech: yes... for now
[07:48] <DaSkreech> waltercool: what other operating systems are there ... ah ok
[07:48] <waltercool> DaSkreech: I want have Sabayon and kubuntu
[07:49] <oldwest> where can you find which version linux you're running fiesty etc?
[07:49] <oldwest> run a konsole command?
[07:49] <waltercool> ii will try... DaSkreech
[07:49] <waltercool> thanks...
[07:49] <DaSkreech> oldwest: lsb_release -a
[07:50] <oldwest> daskreech - thx so much - couldn't remember
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Sure
[07:51] <sfire> DaSkreech is just hot tonight :p
[07:53] <oldwest> yea - looks like i'm running ubuntu 6.10 edgy - thx again
[07:53] <oldwest> need get the new fiesty - u like it?
[07:53] <jarn> When I try to run a game in Xnest I get this error: http://pastebin.ca/560727
[07:54] <DaSkreech> oldwest: Yeah. though if you like edgy stick with it a while
[07:55] <oldwest> yea its ok - but have another drive - i want to use the bleeding edge stuff - adventuresome  :o)
[07:57] <DaSkreech> gutsy :)
[08:03] <sivaji> !grub
[08:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:06] <waltercool> hey... works xD in part
[08:07] <DaSkreech> waltercool: how well?
[08:07] <waltercool> The problem wasn't grub xDDD
[08:07] <waltercool> was the boot disk xD
[08:08] <DaSkreech> :-)
[08:08] <waltercool> DaSkreech: Kubuntu have a lot of games xDDD?
[08:08] <waltercool> like another distros?
[08:08] <DaSkreech> !games
[08:08] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[08:09] <waltercool> mmm
[08:09] <waltercool> !thanks
[08:09] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[08:09] <DaSkreech> waltercool: press alt+space -> type adept -> press enter
[08:09] <RawSewage> can you burn the CD image of Kubuntu to a DVD. if so, how
[08:09] <waltercool> what is katapult?
[08:09] <RawSewage> !katapult
[08:10] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[08:10] <waltercool> !ic
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <DaSkreech> waltercool: alt+space -> adept -> enter and tell me when it's open
[08:12] <waltercool> yeah... ic... thanks ;)
[08:12] <DaSkreech> waltercool: it's open?
[08:13] <waltercool> DaSkreech: yes... im updating now :) xD
[08:14] <waltercool> DaSkreech: thanks
[08:14] <DaSkreech> waltercool: under the adept menu go to manage repositores
[08:14] <sfire> DaSkreech: that alt+space is totally awesome... another cool trick :)
[08:15] <jarn> When I create an Xnest it is using Mesa and, hence, no direct rendering is present - is there any way to fix this?
[08:15] <waltercool> DaSkreech: Mmm... ic, is too dangerous cancel a update?
[08:15] <DaSkreech> sfire: alt+space -> spell<space>fire -> giggle like a girl
[08:15] <DaSkreech> waltercool: oh no poke me when the update is done :)
[08:16] <waltercool> ok ;)
[08:16] <waltercool> DaSkreech: Another thing... how can i enable root?
[08:16] <waltercool> without sudo su?
[08:16] <DaSkreech> !root
[08:16] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:16] <DaSkreech> waltercool: you can just sudo anything that you need to do though
[08:16] <DaSkreech> and it stops you being root all the time
[08:17] <waltercool> DaSkreech: I dont want get all in home folder xD
[08:17] <DaSkreech> waltercool: all?
[08:17] <waltercool> DaSkreech: Apps are installed in home folder with sudo su, right?
[08:18] <DaSkreech> waltercool: umm
[08:18] <DaSkreech> waltercool: not really
[08:18] <waltercool> or only conf. files?
[08:18] <DaSkreech> only .conf files
[08:18] <waltercool> and .folders  xD
[08:19] <waltercool> DaSkreech: A last question xD... how can i resize a additional panel?
[08:19] <waltercool> !panel
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <waltercool> cool
[08:19] <DaSkreech> waltercool: i don't see why not right click and configure it
[08:20] <waltercool> but only configure me the principal panel
[08:32] <intelikey> question how do you get konqueror to sage the pictures in a web page ?
[08:32] <DaSkreech> intelikey: poke
[08:32] <intelikey> save
[08:32] <intelikey> DaSkreech ?     poke ?
[08:32] <DaSkreech> intelikey: can you view images from the CLI?
[08:33] <intelikey> yeah.  that's not the point.
[08:33] <intelikey> how can i get konq to save the images with the page ?
[08:34] <intelikey> or will i have to use something more powerful... like wget ?
[08:34] <waltercool> DaSkreech: Kde can work without gnome libs?
[08:34] <DaSkreech> waltercool: very well
[08:35] <waltercool> DaSkreech: And why comes with a lot of gnome libs installed?
[08:35] <DaSkreech> intelikey: tools -> archive web page
[08:35] <DaSkreech> waltercool: it comes with none as far as I know
[08:35] <RawSewage> that doesnt always work
[08:35] <waltercool> gconf...?
[08:36] <RawSewage> ARchive web page doesnt seem to like css or something
[08:37] <sivaji> i have kubuntu and xp on my pc , i am going to reinstall xp will it affect linux (grub loader ) i have grub loader in a separate partitons
[08:37] <intelikey> well thanks   it worked for what i wanted it for.
[08:38] <waltercool> yes
[08:38] <waltercool> sivaji:
[08:38] <waltercool> !grub xD
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub xd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <waltercool> !grub
[08:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:38] <DaSkreech> waltercool: well done padawan
[08:38] <DaSkreech> have a cookie
[08:38] <waltercool> hahahah xD Lol
[08:38] <DaSkreech> !botsnack
[08:38] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:38] <DaSkreech> ha ha
[08:39] <sivaji> waltercool http://sgd.howto-linux.de/download/binaries/sgd_plus_distros/sgd_gparted_system_rescue_001.iso ple take look at this if have this in a cd can i recover kubuntu
[08:39] <solid_liq> anyone know why, when I try to print in feisty, cups gives me the error: request entity too large?
[08:39] <waltercool> OMG... adepts is uninstalling me kde xO
[08:41] <sivaji> waltercool :
[08:42] <waltercool> sivaji: yes?
[08:42] <waltercool> o... sorry
[08:42] <waltercool> but u dont have livecd?
[08:43] <sivaji> waltercool  : .docx  is a extension of openoffice or msoffice
[08:43] <sivaji> !.docx
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about docx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <waltercool> i cant see now xD... i havent konqueror
[08:45] <DaSkreech> sivaji: do you have a kubuntu cd ?
[08:45] <sivaji> no
[08:45] <sivaji> DaSkreech no
[08:46] <sivaji> DaSkreech y u r asking this
[08:46] <DaSkreech> sivaji: do you have any live cds ?
[08:46] <DaSkreech> sivaji: you are trying to recover Linux after installing Windows?
[08:46] <sivaji> DaSkreech no i can get it from my friends
[08:46] <DaSkreech> !grub | sivaji
[08:46] <ubotu> sivaji: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:46] <DaSkreech> sivaji: read the first link
[08:47] <sivaji> DaSkreech ya i saw that but my probelms is ram
[08:47] <DaSkreech> sivaji: how much ram do you have ?
[08:47] <waltercool> DaSkreech: Exist a package with kubuntu default?? xD
[08:47] <sivaji> my system rarely runs kubuntu from livecd
[08:47] <sivaji> 256mc
[08:47] <DaSkreech> waltercool: kubuntu-desktop
[08:47] <sivaji> 256md
[08:47] <waltercool> cool xD
[08:47] <sivaji> DaSkreech 256mb
[08:47] <DaSkreech> sivaji: there should be a section on that page on how to fix it from the alternate CD
[08:48] <DaSkreech> you need almost no ram for that
[08:48] <sivaji> DaSkreech  my system rarely runs kubuntu from livecd  i struggled a lot to install kubuntu
[08:49] <sivaji> from livecd
[08:49] <DaSkreech> sivaji: use the alternate cd
[08:49] <DaSkreech> it's not a live CD you should have no problems
[08:49] <sivaji> DaSkreech ok
[08:49] <DaSkreech> sivaji: or if you like you can kill X on the LIve Cd and it shoudl be much better
[08:49] <intelikey> sivaji 256m ram is no reason for a live cd to fail.
[08:49] <DaSkreech> intelikey: but it's not impossible
[08:49] <sivaji> intelikey then what else
[08:50] <intelikey> DaSkreech highly unlikely.
[08:51] <kravenz> Hi Leute
[08:51] <sivaji> intelikey i tried to install 32bit os in 64bit pc i think may be because of that right ..
[08:53] <intelikey> no.
[08:53] <sivaji> DaSkreech u said some thing about alternate CD what is that i dont find there
[08:53] <kraut> moin
[08:54] <sivaji> intelikey .docx is a extension for open office file or msoffice file
[08:54] <DaSkreech> msoffice
[08:55] <sivaji> DaSkreech cant we open .docx in openoffice easily like other files
[08:56] <DaSkreech> sivaji: depends on which version and no it's not assured
[08:56] <intelikey> M$
[08:56] <sivaji> DaSkreech ok
[08:56] <DaSkreech> The .docx spec is very vague and does many things that can only be interpreted "correctly" by microsoft
[08:56] <DaSkreech> But there is a good chance that the newere versions of OO.o will handle it well
[08:57] <DaSkreech> intelikey: can you boot the desktop cd headless?
[08:57] <sivaji> DaSkreech intelikey http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/
[08:58] <sivaji> !alien
[08:58] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:00] <intelikey> sivaji URL is for what cause ?   you asked me "<sivaji> intelikey .docx is a extension for open office file or msoffice file" to which i answered "<intelikey> M$"   so what's the URL for ?
[09:01] <DaSkreech> sivaji: nice
[09:01] <DaSkreech> intelikey: he asked if he could open it in openoffice
[09:01] <DaSkreech> intelikey: did you answer my query ?
[09:01] <intelikey> DaSkreech yes it can boot.  may hang a process "startx" to be exact. but the system should boot.
[09:02] <DaSkreech> intelikey: oh right. not that one the how do you view images on the CLI
[09:02] <intelikey> svgalibs   and viewimage  or links2 -g
[09:03] <intelikey> can do it with other means   fbcon  for example
[09:04] <intelikey> well i'm out.
[09:07] <anthony_> Hi, how do I install ati drivers on kubuntu?
[09:07] <emonkey-f> !fglrx
[09:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:09] <sysman> ooo
[09:11] <darwin81> If I install Kubuntu can I move my Firefox history and bookmarks to Konquerer?
[09:11] <TyphoidHippo> Hey, namol - are you actually in here?
[09:12] <anthony_> 10x
[09:14] <sivaji> !bean
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <darwin81> If I install Kubuntu can I move my Firefox history and bookmarks to Konquerer?
[09:14] <sivaji> darwin81 nice question
[09:14] <DaSkreech> darwin81: Maybe :)
[09:15] <nko> hi
[09:15] <nko> i ahve a general "ubuntu" question...
[09:15] <DaSkreech> Shoot
[09:15] <sivaji> darwin81 find the dir where u r history and book marks are stored
[09:15] <nko> how can i add a new service at boot?
[09:15] <sivaji> !ask | nko
[09:15] <ubotu> nko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:16] <DaSkreech> darwin81: you know you can still use firefox right ?
[09:16] <darwin81> yea
[09:16] <DaSkreech> nko: there is a service manager in System settings -> advanced
[09:17] <nko> is for a 6.10 server without serverX...
[09:18] <darwin81> But I like native apps better
[09:18] <DaSkreech> darwin81: I don't know of a way to import the history
[09:18] <SniZ> hi, can i install kubuntu via netboot?
[09:18] <DaSkreech> darwin81: there is probably a tool though
[09:18] <etnt> when I unplug the power to my laptop, the screen dampens, anyone knows if that can be fixed ?
[09:18] <nko> i must add a command at the boot of the system...not at my login
[09:20] <SniZ> hey
[09:20] <SniZ> somebody help me?
[09:20] <sivaji> nko /etc/init.d i think u need to add here
[09:20] <DaSkreech> !netboot
[09:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:21] <DaSkreech> etnt: some new laptops do that in hardware but you can check power config
[09:21] <DaSkreech> !power
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <eagles0513875> i think i have found the best 64bit os
[09:21] <eagles0513875> lo,
[09:21] <eagles0513875> l
[09:22] <Jucato> !netinstall
[09:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:22] <Jucato> ah patience is the keyword for today
[09:23] <sivaji> Jucato : hi dude my system never detect dvd disk
[09:23] <eagles0513875> Jucato: u trying to boot from a network to a machine that doesnt have a hard drive
[09:24] <sivaji> Jucato but it works fine in windows
[09:24] <Jucato> eagles0513875: no. I was trying to answer SniZ's question. but he/she/it left just as I triggered the bot
[09:24] <sivaji> i installed many plugins to support dvd
[09:24] <eagles0513875> lol
[09:24] <mardi> hi all, there was an update yesterday (day before?) to a new kernel. Today kubuntu feisty is hanging at shut down. upon reset i get "stuff wasn't unmounted cleanly". Then a whole heap of inode and block issues. is this related to the new kernel?
[09:24] <sivaji> still it doesnt works
[09:25] <eagles0513875> that is the same for me it hangs on shutdown
[09:25] <Jucato> sivaji: um.. sorry, no idea..
[09:25] <sivaji> Jucato ok
[09:25] <eagles0513875> how does one envoke a drive check
[09:26] <Young_Druid> hi, has anybody installed vpn connection with static ip?
[09:26] <eagles0513875> mardi: i think u have to run fsck
[09:26] <eagles0513875> but its best done during start up
[09:26] <eagles0513875> anyone know how i can invoke fsck to run at start up after rebooting my machine
[09:27] <mardi> eagles0513875: i'm getting i_node and block erros during boot fsck
[09:27] <eagles0513875> ur running the 32bit version
[09:29] <mardi> eagles0513875: yes, with a sata HDD
[09:29] <eagles0513875> interesting
[09:29] <eagles0513875> im not getting those errors and im on the 64bit version
[09:29] <eagles0513875> only just the hanging at shutdown
[09:29] <eagles0513875> how old is hte hadd
[09:29] <eagles0513875> *hdd
[09:29] <mardi> old...
[09:29] <eagles0513875> bout how many yrs
[09:29] <mardi> probably more than 3 or 4
[09:29] <eagles0513875> i hate to break it to ya
[09:29] <eagles0513875> but ur drive could be goign bad if ur getting those block errors on startup
[09:30] <sivaji> i got combo drive which can read and write cd but it cant read (detect ) dvd disk ,but the same dvd disk and drive works fine in xp
[09:30] <eagles0513875> regardless of thsoe block errors can u at least get to the desktop
[09:30] <DaSkreech> !fsc
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <DaSkreech> !fsck
[09:30] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[09:31] <sivaji>  i got combo drive which can read and write cd but it cant read (detect ) dvd disk ,but the same dvd disk and drive works fine in xp
[09:31] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: mardi has tried that but still during boot up he is getting those block errors
[09:31] <mardi> eagles0513875: yeh, we can get to the desktop, and we've "fixed" the inode using fsck in puppy linux, and the next boot goes well.. until it's rebooted, then the cycle repeats: hangs, restet, then b0rk
[09:32] <eagles0513875> honestly i would backup any data and replace the drive
[09:32] <mardi> eagles0513875: wanna buy me a new one? :p
[09:32] <eagles0513875> lol
[09:32] <eagles0513875> i dont have any money or job :\
[09:32] <mardi> me either!
[09:32] <mardi> oi
[09:33] <mattsqz> me either
[09:33] <eagles0513875> u running a duel boot by any chance
[09:33] <mattsqz> till july
[09:33] <mardi> eagles0513875: yes, triboot with MS and pc-bsd, all on the same 200gig HDD
[09:33] <eagles0513875> u dont have windows on there lol
[09:33] <eagles0513875> lol forget winblows
[09:34] <eagles0513875> on pcbsd which im assuming is linux do u get the same errors
[09:35] <mardi> have yet to try pcbsd. it's based off bsd, which isn't linux
[09:35] <mattsqz> what about darwin
[09:36] <mattsqz> apple's bsd that osx sits on top of
[09:36] <jbruckman> >.< i'm so frustrated with feisty right now. First my wireless doesn't work. I fix that. The Nvidia doesn't work, I try fixing that and break everything, 1000 times over. Finally I get back to where I think everything is at least ok, and I'm having problems with firefox, and a few other programs.
[09:37] <jbruckman> i'm 90% sure once it's not 2:30 in the morning, I'm downgrading back to edgy
[09:37] <mattsqz> feisty is working wonderfully for me
[09:37] <jbruckman> congratz, it's been nothing but a bi*** to me.
[09:37] <mattsqz> nvidia, firefox, beryl..
[09:37] <mattsqz> wireless workin fine too
[09:37] <crimsun> I really have no idea why people insist on upgrading if things are working
[09:37] <mattsqz> now that i got the issues with the wired sorted out, that is
[09:38] <crimsun> the adage "don't fix what's not broken" is an adage for a reason...
[09:38] <jbruckman> crimsun, i honestly don't know why i bothered.
[09:38] <crimsun> we clearly support each desktop release for at least 18 months
[09:38] <mattsqz> the idea that an upgrade is meant to fix something is an idea that came from microsoft
[09:38] <TyphoidHippo> Does anybody know if it's possible to make Synergy server run on an actual server (that doesn't run X)?
[09:38] <crimsun> it's not like things are going to go batcrack insane if you don't run the most current stable release
[09:38] <Jucato> crimsun: um... because 1) they might need/want something from an updated version, 2) they don't really expect that what was working would not be working after an upgrade... you'd be expecting the opposite, right?
[09:38] <mattsqz> it should not have been released if there is stuff to fix, upgrades add new features
[09:39] <jbruckman> i expect people to NOT break things.
[09:39] <crimsun> Jucato: feature creep is dangerous.  Drooling over new features is even more dangerous.
[09:39] <jbruckman> but then of course, in an open community especially, you just have to realize it's going to happen.
[09:39] <Jucato> crimsun: that doesn't really answer the expectation that upgrades should not break stuff...
[09:39] <eagles0513875> i have nto encountered many bugs in the 64 bit version of feisty
[09:39] <sivaji>  i got combo drive which can read and write cd but it cant read (detect ) dvd disk ,but the same dvd disk and drive works fine in xp
[09:40] <mardi> thanks for the help.
[09:40] <crimsun> Jucato: that's because there is no guarantee that upgrades will not hose something
[09:40] <eagles0513875> no problem mardi that is what we r here for
[09:40] <Jucato> it's far more dangerous to accept that "upgrades *will* break working stuff" is the norm, though...
[09:40] <eagles0513875> seems like more development has gone into the 64bit version unless im wrong
[09:40] <crimsun> Jucato: there is no SLA saying it or its opposite.
[09:40] <eagles0513875> u got to break somethign to fix it lol
[09:40] <Jucato> SLA?
[09:41] <crimsun> acronymfinder :)
[09:41] <Jucato> fine fine... :/
[09:41] <jbruckman> lol, sorry to start an argument gents. I was just venting.
[09:41] <jbruckman> :-p
[09:41] <eagles0513875> lol
[09:41] <DaSkreech> Gnight
[09:41] <eagles0513875> night DaSkreech
[09:41] <Jucato> software license agreement?
[09:42] <eagles0513875> has anyone else use the 64 bit version of feisty
[09:42] <tazz> Hey, whats up with shipit only allowing just 3 cds insted of the normal 10?
[09:42] <crimsun> Jucato: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_Level_Agreement
[09:43] <DaSkreech> Jucato: http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/
[09:44] <jbruckman> guys i'm stumped and need some help
[09:44] <TyphoidHippo> What's the command that you can run that will output in your terminal the details of anything you plug into your USB port?  I think I just overcomplicated my question...
[09:44] <jbruckman> i keep getting this error when file browsing...
[09:44] <jbruckman> "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system."
[09:44] <Jucato> crimsun: I'm talking about a seemingly prevalent mentality, not any formal guarantee set in writing. While I do know that upgrades *can* break things at times, there seems to be a pattern of using that as an excuse whenever something breaks in an upgrade...
[09:44] <jbruckman> how do i fix it?
[09:45] <crimsun> Jucato: it's not an excuse, it's a syndrome
[09:45] <Jucato> TyphoidHippo: dmesg
[09:45] <crimsun> Jucato: we obviously don't handle downgrades, which are also upgrades of a different nature
[09:46] <jbruckman> anyone?
[09:46] <jbruckman> i don't really want to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a again, just to try to fix this...
[09:46] <dwidmann> eagles0513875: I do
[09:46] <TyphoidHippo> ahh
[09:46] <TyphoidHippo> thanks Jucato
[09:46] <eagles0513875> dw u regestered
[09:47] <eagles0513875> jbruckman: u trying to access a ntfs partition
[09:47] <dwidmann> where?
[09:47] <eagles0513875> on here
[09:47] <eagles0513875> !register
[09:47] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:47] <Jucato> well anyway, I'm in no position to talk about upgrades, since I don't have the technical knowledge sufficient to make an unbiased statement...
[09:47] <jbruckman> eagles0513875: no. i'm trying to access my ext3 partition.
[09:47] <Jucato> hi Admiral_Chicago
[09:47] <eagles0513875> jbruckman: u try fsck
[09:47] <eagles0513875> !register | dwidmann
[09:47] <ubotu> dwidmann: please see above
[09:47] <TyphoidHippo> No, wait that's not it Jucato - I'll google it though, since I don't know how to word what I want to do very well.
[09:47] <dwidmann> ah, that, yes
[09:47] <eagles0513875> its free to register
[09:47] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i tried to build KDE4 from SVN...no go...
[09:48] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: hm...
[09:48] <jbruckman> eagles0513875: trying now.
[09:48] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:48] <jbruckman> it's clean
[09:48] <eagles0513875> run it at reboot
[09:48] <Admiral_Chicago> cmake was not happy building kdelibs...oh well i'll try it in a bit
[09:48] <Jucato> TyphoidHippo: what else are you looking for?
[09:48] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: what are you trying to fix exactly?
[09:48] <jbruckman> the above error mesg.
[09:48] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: if you eve need help, #kde4-devel would be a nice place to ask. but if you could remember the errors that you got, maybe I could try and guess? :D
[09:49] <jbruckman> "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system."
[09:49] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: also, I guess you're following the instructions from techbase?
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: yes. techbase. i'm in that channel...
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll pastebin my last lof.
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> log*
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: you get this on boot?
[09:50] <jbruckman> i get this when i try to browse my '/' folder.
[09:50] <jbruckman> or any other folder under it
[09:50] <jbruckman> and i can't even look at the other disks.
[09:51] <sivaji> how to mount dvd driver manually
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> did you try a live CD and chown
[09:51] <eagles0513875> dwidmann: did u get my pm
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> wait...no thats not the command..
[09:51] <dwidmann> yes
[09:51] <jbruckman> :|
[09:51] <jbruckman> chmod.
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> change permissions. yes that one
[09:51] <TyphoidHippo> I found it, Jucato.  It was tail
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: this is what happens when you take back the Unix book you were letting me read
[09:52] <jbruckman> *insert swear words here* i should have to.
[09:52] <TyphoidHippo> sudo tail -fn0 /var/log/messages  was the whole command
[09:52] <jbruckman> Admiral_Chicago: GAH. i want to kill something right now.
[09:52] <jbruckman> Admiral_Chicago: lol
[09:52] <TyphoidHippo> It prints out the details of what you plug in in real time
[09:52] <jbruckman> Admiral_Chicago: glad i did, otherwise you might of left it at school. :-p
[09:52] <Jucato> TyphoidHippo: actually, yes and no. tail only outputs the last part of a file.
[09:53] <TyphoidHippo> hmmm...
[09:53] <Jucato> TyphoidHippo: the important stuff there is which log file you are trying to output
[09:53] <TyphoidHippo> oh
[09:53] <TyphoidHippo> I get it
[09:53] <Admiral_Chicago> hehe.
[09:53] <jbruckman> sigh.
[09:53] <TyphoidHippo> it prints out the end of the log file in real time, as the log is updated
[09:53] <TyphoidHippo> that's pretty cool
[09:55] <TyphoidHippo> Alright, well I totally saw this coming - but running synergy server on a server that doesn't run x doesn't work....
[09:56] <cewanf> Morning, has anyone here tried kcpuload on a dual core processor?
[09:57] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: error log: http://pastebin.ca/560911 retrieve it from /home/kde-devel/kde/build/KDE/kdelibs/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log
[09:57] <jbruckman> going to reboot. see if it fixes some things...
[09:57] <jbruckman> *sigh* MRAWR!
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> that guy was too angry...just kidding
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> i've known him for...6 years now...
[10:00] <sivaji> !dvd
[10:00] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:00] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: there are lots of errors in there, is it the last one?
[10:03] <mattsqz_> fscking dsl
[10:04] <anthony_> Hi, we are trying to install Kubuntu on a fujitsu siemens amilio pi1536, and after we choose START & INSTALL.. after a while it ends up with a blinking cursor at the top left of the screen.. any ideas?
[10:04] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: thats the full log....
[10:04] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: yeah, but it actually mixes all the errors from all other cmake runs :/
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> everything seemes to work fine (no errors)
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> built all the way afaik
[10:05] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: here's a tip. if something from KDE svn doesn't build, try svn up after a few hours and try again
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> i tried that earlier too
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> waited a few hours
[10:05] <Jucato> :/
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: richard said it's probably related to it being Monday...
[10:06] <Jucato> ah it's monday? lol I lost track of days :/
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> when he told me it was...its now tuesday
[10:06] <cewanf> I am using KCpuLoad on a dual core system, but I only see one CPU graph in system tray. Anyone have any idea on how to fix this?
[10:07] <andri> hellooo
[10:07] <andri> anybvody here in this room?
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> i am
[10:09] <andri> elllooo
[10:15] <toma> hi, vmware-player-kernel-modules_2.6.20.15.14_i386 does not contain the modules, is there a workaround?
[10:18] <mattsqz_> brb
[10:19] <mattsqz> ah thats better
[10:20] <mattsqz> gotta have splitfire with my epic
[10:23] <anthony_> is there any install problems for kubuntu with fujitsu siemens amilo ?
[10:27] <mattsqz> whats an amilo
[10:27] <mattsqz> a laptop?
[10:27] <anthony_> yes
[10:27] <anthony_> has an ATI X1400 graphic card..
[10:27] <mattsqz> well step one..find out all about the hardware in it
[10:27] <anthony_> the live cd isnt loading..
[10:28] <mattsqz> what model is it
[10:28] <raf> to
[10:28] <anthony_> AMILO PI 1536
[10:29] <mattsqz> 1536..k..
[10:29] <anthony_> After we choose start & install, some things are loaded up... then a blank screen with a blinking cursor at the top left appears..
[10:30] <mattsqz> it doesnt look like there's any unusual hardware in it
[10:30] <anthony_> interestingly.. if we disable and enable the wireless through a switch on the laptop. a message displaying such action is shown .. hence something is working..
[10:30] <mattsqz> have you tried starting the disc in vga mode
[10:30] <anthony_> message saying.. "Radio Frequency Kill Switch is On:"..
[10:30] <anthony_> we tried in VGA Safe Mode with the same result..
[10:30] <mattsqz> that could easily be osd stuff in the laptop's hardware
[10:31] <mattsqz> it could be any number of things
[10:31] <anthony_> then if we press the SWITCH OFF button of the laptop.. the KUBUNTU SPLASH SCREEN COMES.. and it switches off normally
[10:32] <anthony_> it seems the XSERVER is failing to load..
[10:32] <sercik> Hi! i'm trying to mount with nfs and i receive this error: mount: 10.0.0.1:/mnt/disco/shared failed, reason given by server: Permission denied
[10:32] <sercik> someone can help me?
[10:32] <mattsqz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414194
[10:32] <mattsqz> check that out
[10:32] <mattsqz> anthony
[10:33] <anthony_> okay
[10:33] <mattsqz> looks like you have to use the alternate install cd and install in text mode
[10:33] <llutz> sercik: reason is written there, check permissions and /etc/exports on server
[10:34] <anthony_> okay 10x
[10:34] <sercik> llutz: i have created /etc/exports
[10:35] <sercik> ad then i have give exportfs command
[10:35] <masterloki> :>
[10:35] <sercik> probably i'm wrong with syntax...
[10:35] <masterloki> @_@
[10:35] <sercik> this is my /etc/exports:
[10:35] <sercik> /mnt/disco/shared sercik-desktop(rw)
[10:35] <sercik> /mnt/disco/mldonkey sercik-desktop(rw)
[10:35] <sercik> #
[10:36] <sercik> sercik-desktop  il client
[10:36] <sercik> sercik-desktop is the client
[10:40] <zulu> .
[10:42] <Kite_DH> kubuntu, hooray!
[10:43] <G3NESIS> !beryl
[10:43] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:47] <grul> is there any easy way to restore all default apache config files?
[10:47] <balaji> hi friends
[10:48] <grul> i seem to have messed it up a bit
[10:48] <balaji> is there a way of creating an iso image of a CD in linux
[10:48] <frojnd> hello there! How can I type in one line that I wanna update and upgrade and dist upgrade and also allways that it asks if I really wanna do that, answer with yes, allways yes ?
[10:48] <llutz> balaji: a normal data-cd? cat /dev/cdrom >file.iso
[10:49] <renatos> hi to all!!! By mistake a deleted a directory in a VFAT file system in my hardisk... how can i recover this disaster!?!??!?! please help me :-///
[10:49] <balaji> its a windows OS cd
[10:50] <llutz> balaji: should work
[10:50] <balaji> thanks
[10:51] <llutz> frojnd: sudo aptitude -y update && sudo aptitude -y dist-upgrade
[10:59] <frojnd> how can I go with VLC forward for like 10sec or smth like that with keyboard ?
[10:59] <frojnd> llutz: tnx
[11:00] <renatos> By mistake a deleted a directory in a VFAT file system in my hardisk... how can i recover this disaster!?!??!?! please help me :-///
[11:03] <sercik_> how can i kill sercik ghost?
[11:03] <sercik_> i'm sercik but i can't connect with that name
[11:04] <Jucato> sercik_: is sercik registered?
[11:04] <sercik_> sure!
[11:05] <Jucato> ah there :)
[11:05] <sercik> done!
[11:05] <sercik> Jucato: can you help me?
[11:05] <sercik> i have a problem with exportfs command
[11:06] <sercik> also if i launch it with -v i can't see output
[11:06] <sercik> it seems that doesn't export my shares and so i can't mount on client
[11:06] <llutz> sercik: exportfs -a
[11:07] <sercik> thank you llutz
[11:08] <sercik> the output tells about sync is better that i add sync option??
[11:09] <llutz> sercik: i prefer it
[11:09] <sercik> No options for /mnt/disco/shared 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0: suggest 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0(sync) to avoid warning
[11:09] <sercik> do you explain me this line?
[11:09] <llutz> sercik: as long as you don't use "sync" you'll get a warning.
[11:09] <sercik> and then No host name given with /mnt/disco/shared (rw,sync), suggest *(rw,sync) to avoid warning
[11:10] <sercik> i have added sync on exports file
[11:10] <sercik> this is a tipical line: /mnt/disco/shared 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 (rw,sync)
[11:10] <llutz> sercik: add a host/net
[11:11] <sercik> could you wite me the correct syntax?
[11:11] <llutz> sercik: how about reading the manual? :)     /mnt/disco/shared 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 *(rw,sync)
[11:12] <sercik> llutz: sorry!
[11:12] <sercik> i have read two guides
[11:12] <sercik> but the differences is * ?
[11:13] <llutz> sercik: without space, sry   /mnt/disco/shared 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0(rw,sync)
[11:13] <sercik> ah! ok now
[11:13] <llutz> sercik:or   /mnt/disco/shared 10.0.0.0/24(rw,sync)
[11:13] <llutz> sercik:or   /mnt/disco/shared 10.*(rw,sync)
[11:13] <sercik> infact i didn't understand why the output sugests the options i have already added
[11:13] <sercik> the space is incorrect
[11:15] <sercik> is there a grphical tool like smb4k for nfs browsing
[11:15] <ssuuddoo> hi, could anyone tell me if there is a way to run a swf file with a borderless player?
[11:16] <ssuuddoo> i dunno
[11:16] <sercik> mplayer is borderless
[11:16] <sercik> do you mean in browser page?
[11:19] <ssuuddoo> no
[11:19] <ssuuddoo> will try mplayer
[11:19] <ssuuddoo> my intention is:
[11:19] <ssuuddoo> ...will explain
[11:19] <ssuuddoo> some programs have a nice notifiers
[11:19] <ssuuddoo> for example incredimail for email notification
[11:19] <ssuuddoo> they are in the swf format
[11:20] <ssuuddoo> (for example a 3D envelope spins around the systray several times)
[11:20] <ssuuddoo> I had the idea that normal email notifier that could run a command could run a swf-player that would play selected swf file without a window
[11:20] <ardchoille> ssuuddoo: kbiff can do that
[11:20] <ssuuddoo> just the swf with full transparency
[11:21] <ardchoille> ssuuddoo: superkaramba can do email notification and gkrellm can too
[11:21] <ssuuddoo> and korn can do it also, but I dunno, which swf-player to use
[11:21] <ssuuddoo> wait, will try the mplayer
[11:25] <ssuuddoo> can you make a superkaramba script that runs a swf file on the desktop?
[11:35] <ssuuddoo> anyway - can superkaramba work with SWF files?
[11:37] <rowenthedark> Couple of questions: How do i make my home folder appear on my desktop? And what is the default file manager?
[11:38] <Jucato> Default Filemanager = Konqueror
[11:39] <rowenthedark> jucato: how can i change it to dolphin?
[11:40] <Jucato> link to home: right-click on the desktop -> Create New -> Link to location - type in "home:/"
[11:40] <Jucato> rowenthedark: you wouldn't want to use Dolphin on KDE 3.5 just yet...
[11:40] <anthony_> mattsqz: we installed the alternate cd but when we come to doing sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx  it tells us "Couldn't find package xorg-driver-fglrx"
[11:40] <rowenthedark> jucato: why not?
[11:41] <Jucato> rowenthedark: the version of Dolphin on KDE 3 has not been updated nor will it be updated. it's not even close to what Dolphin really has right now in KDE 4, both in features and stability
[11:41] <rowenthedark> jucato: okay. thanks for that info.
[11:42] <Jucato> so unless you really want to use a gimped version of Dolphin, you can go to Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> inode -> directory and change it there
[11:44] <rowenthedark> jucato: I installed KDE 4 but seem to have lost it somewhere. IE not in session menu. Any idea where it is and how to start it?
[11:45] <rowenthedark> Sorry for so many questions btw.
[11:45] <pag> rowenthedark, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php here are the instructions on how can you get it to your session menu :)
[11:45] <Jucato> rowenthedark: how did you install KDE 4? kubuntu.org packages? if yes, check the announcement page for that
[11:46] <rowenthedark> pag and jucato thank you.
[11:48] <rowenthedark> I think thats everything. Thanks again.
[11:49] <rowenthedark> Wait one more question: How can I keep gnome stuff from showing up in my kde menu?
[11:51] <RawSewage> what version of GNOME is in Ubuntu
[11:51] <RawSewage> 7.04
[11:52] <rowenthedark> 2.18command line.1 i think
[11:52] <Jucato> !info gnome-desktop-environment
[11:52] <ubotu> gnome-desktop-environment: The GNOME Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.14.3.3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 13 kB, installed size 44 kB
[11:52] <Jucato> jer...
[11:52] <Jucato> hm..
[11:52] <ardchoille> !info gnome
[11:52] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.14.3.3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 44 kB
[11:52] <RawSewage> ty
[11:52] <Jucato> that should be 2.16 afaik...
[11:52] <ardchoille> I think it is 2.16
[11:52] <Jucato> actually. 2.18
[11:52] <rowenthedark> i thought it was 2.18.1
[11:52] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[11:52] <crdlb> !info epiphany-browser
[11:52] <ubotu> epiphany-browser: Intuitive GNOME web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.18.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3130 kB, installed size 13280 kB
[11:53] <Jucato> at least it should be...
[11:53] <ardchoille> Ah, yeah, 2.18.1
[11:53] <rowenthedark> :)
[11:53] <RawSewage> is it easy to upgrade to 2.18
[11:53] <Jucato> since Ubuntu syncs w/ GNOME releases
[11:53] <Jucato> what do you mean?
[11:53] <ardchoille> Jucato: bot info not reliable?
[11:54] <RawSewage> Feisty cant have 2.18
[11:54] <RawSewage> it just came out 2 weeks ago
[11:54] <ardchoille> !info nautilus feisty
[11:54] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.18.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 645 kB, installed size 1568 kB
[11:54] <ardchoille> Looks like the bot info isn't reliable
[11:54] <crdlb> RawSewage, it does
[11:55] <crdlb> and 2.18 came out in march iirc
[11:55] <RawSewage> 2.18.2 / 30 May 2007
[11:55] <rowenthedark> Is there a menu editor in kde and if so where would i find it?
[11:55] <RawSewage> crdlb, oh ok.  thats .2
[11:55] <crdlb> RawSewage, that's 2.18.2
[11:55] <RawSewage> I see
[11:55] <ardchoille> rowenthedark: right click on the menu icon
[11:56] <rowenthedark> ardchoille thanks
[11:56] <linux_> Hi there.
[11:56] <ardchoille> rowenthedark: Or you can alt+f2 and type in  kmenuedit
[11:56] <linux_> I have never had 3D support on linux on any distros
[11:56] <Jucato> "Best of the open source world: Ubuntu 7.04 supports the Linux 2.6.20 kernel, the recent GNOME 2.18 desktop environment, and thousands of additional applications."
[11:56] <linux_> can anyone help me get 3D
[11:56] <Jucato> RawSewage:  ^^^
[11:56] <Jucato> too bad he left
[11:57] <linux_> The graphics card can support it.
[11:57] <linux_> just i never had help to enable it
[11:57] <Jucato> what video card?
[11:58] <rowenthedark> Why is it 3d graphics work out of the box on intel 9xx series cards but not on ati/nvidia without a lot of work.
[11:59] <linux_> its ati
[11:59] <dwidmann> rowenthedark: intel cards have open drivers
[11:59] <linux_> 9700 i think
[11:59] <Jucato> rowenthedark: because intel has opened their drivers
[11:59] <llutz> rowenthedark: at/nvidia are closed drivers
[11:59] <Jucato> !ati | linux_
[11:59] <ubotu> linux_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:59] <sivaji2009> linux_ lspci
[11:59] <linux_> i installed the ati opengl support thing on the new kubuntu
[11:59] <linux_> off the installer
[11:59] <rowenthedark> Ahhhh. That explains why my desktop was a pain to set up. Has ati card.
[11:59] <crdlb> linux_, on feisty, there's builtin 3d support for the 9700
[11:59] <rowenthedark> :(
[12:00] <crdlb> enough for beryl, etc. at least
[12:00] <linux_> bulitin?
[12:00] <crdlb> yes
[12:00] <linux_> whats that mean
[12:00] <crdlb> it's not as fast as the ati proprietary driver, but it runs beryl better and it's far more stable
[12:00] <Jucato> rowenthedark: the fact that ATI is rumored to have not so nice Linux drivers also adds to that difficulty
[12:00] <crdlb> linux_, you don't have to do anything to enable it
[12:00] <crdlb> it's works out of the box
[12:00] <rowenthedark> jucato: yes.
[12:01] <linux_> miene dont
[12:01] <linux_> mine done*
[12:04] <crdlb> linux_, you want 3d for games?
[12:04] <rowenthedark> If I edit my k-menu will it affect my gnome menu?
[12:04] <crdlb> or for beryl?
[12:04] <linux_> eberyl
[12:04] <Jucato> rowenthedark: no
[12:04] <linux_> beryl
[12:04] <crdlb> linux_, run: lspci|grep VGA
[12:04] <linux_> i installed beryl before
[12:04] <faidillinger> beryl still exists ????
[12:04] <rowenthedark> jucato: Thanks.
[12:04] <linux_> it didnt qwork
[12:04] <rowenthedark> Beryl will always exist. :)
[12:04] <Jucato> er... not as "beryl" per se
[12:04] <faidillinger> hmmmm i think it was back again with compiz
[12:04] <crdlb> faidillinger, that hasn't had a release yet
[12:04] <Jucato> well not exactly "merged" perfectly
[12:04] <crdlb> if you want it you have to pull it from git
[12:05] <faidillinger> crdlb: hmmm k
[12:05] <linux_> ooops
[12:05] <linux_> 9600
[12:05] <linux_> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 
[12:05] <Jucato> compiz and beryl have re-joined, but beryl is a sort of "compiz-extras" part of the compiz project
[12:05] <crdlb> linux_, close enough
[12:05] <crdlb> linux_, run: glxinfo|grep direct
[12:05] <faidillinger> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm you know what everybody: i feel like jerking off
[12:05] <Jucato> !language | faidillinger
[12:05] <ubotu> faidillinger: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:05] <faidillinger> lol
[12:05] <linux_> direct rendering: no
[12:05] <crdlb> linux_, glxinfo|grep client
[12:05] <crdlb> linux_, does it say SGI or ATI?
[12:05] <RawSewage_> Im installing Ubuntu on my other HD
[12:05] <RawSewage_> I have Kubuntu on my main
[12:05] <linux_> client glx vendor string: ATI
[12:05] <linux_> client glx version string: 1.3
[12:05] <linux_> client glx extensions:
[12:05] <crdlb> linux_, sudo apt-get --purge remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:05] <sivaji2009> RawSewage_ so
[12:05] <linux_> ok
[12:05] <linux_> did some stuff
[12:06] <crdlb> linux_, now try: glxinfo|grep direct
[12:06] <crdlb> again
[12:06] <linux_> DIrect rendering: yes
[12:06] <RawSewage_> so Im on the Live CD now, and Ubuntu wants to know if I want to import my account from Kubuntu.  What will get imported?
[12:07] <crdlb> linux_, now beryl will work
[12:07] <linux_> i'll try now
[12:08] <sivaji2009> RawSewage_ rephrase u r sentence
[12:08] <RawSewage_>  When I install Ubuntu and import a Kubuntu account, what is getting imported?  Im on the live CD now
[12:09] <RawSewage_> I wonder why GNOME takes up screen space with 2 bars, one at top and one at bottom
[12:09] <sercik> llutz: i'm able to see but i can't write on my nfs shared directory... i have used rw in file /etc/exports... if you can't help me don't worry
[12:09] <missmolotov> hello i was wondering if someone could give me a little lshw help please?
[12:10] <sercik> lshw?
[12:10] <llutz> sercik: check file permissions
[12:10] <sercik> but i'm root!
[12:10] <sercik> i use sudo to mount nfs
[12:10] <Jucato> sercik: it's a command. like lspci
[12:10] <llutz> sercik: your user needs write-right to the nfs-share
[12:10] <RawSewage_> Does anyone know the answer
[12:10] <RawSewage_> Im sitting here at the Install window
[12:10] <sercik> ah!
[12:11] <sercik> now i try to write eith sudo to see if works
[12:11] <Jucato> RawSewage_: the people in #ubuntu might know that better
[12:11] <llutz> sercik: otherwise you have to map the users
[12:11] <RawSewage_> Jucato; Im asking there, but theyre useless
[12:11] <RawSewage_> that channel tried to ban me just because my name is RawSewage
[12:12] <RawSewage_> and all I ever did there was help people
[12:12] <RawSewage_> wait someone replied
[12:12] <missmolotov> i just wondered if anyone knew what ehz meant?  i have 2 p4 machines, when i lshw one of them, in the cpu bit, it tells me the size is 2GHz, on the other PC the one that keeps crashing, it tells me the size is 18EHz
[12:13] <missmolotov> i was wondering if it wasn't recognising the cpu properly or soemthing, as it's freezing about once every 20 mins
[12:13] <sercik> i can't write on nfs share also if i'm root
[12:13] <linux_> do i have to reboot to test beryl?
[12:13] <missmolotov> and all i'm doing is editing html
[12:13] <crdlb> linux_, you shouldn't
[12:13] <linux_> ok
[12:13] <sercik> linux_: do beryl-manager
[12:13] <linux_> i just tryed one ok kde's 3d games just to test, it didnt run
[12:13] <sercik> if you have installed beryl-manager package and if not install it
[12:13] <linux_> it said i had no 3d acceleration
[12:13] <crdlb> missmolotov, Exahertz?
[12:13] <sercik> go glxinfo | grep direct in konsole
[12:14] <crdlb> linux_, run: beryl-manager
[12:14] <crdlb> oh heh
[12:14] <sercik> hi crdlb: can you help me with nfs?
[12:14] <missmolotov> crdlb: that's kind of what i was guessing, but i don't really know what that means, or what the implcaition of that is
[12:14] <crdlb> sercik, nope :(
[12:14] <crdlb> missmolotov, you shouldn't overclock it so much? :D
[12:15] <linux_> i think beryl has crashed
[12:15] <missmolotov> it's not over clocked :/
[12:15] <sercik> someone? is pratic with nfs?
[12:15] <missmolotov> it's just a dell work machines i've tried to get kubuntu on!
[12:15] <linux_> cause i lost the task bars on top of all the windows
[12:15] <linux_> the windows cant move
[12:15] <crdlb> linux_, can you alt+drag windows?
[12:16] <linux_> yea :S
[12:16] <linux_> lol
[12:16] <crdlb> linux_, and the wobble?
[12:16] <crdlb> they*
[12:16] <sercik> linux if you a nvidia card you need to add an option to xorg.conf
[12:16] <linux_> yea
[12:16] <crdlb> linux_, right click on the jewel
[12:16] <crdlb> and click "reload window decorator"
[12:16] <linux_> ok
[12:16] <Guilty_as_Sin> how do you enable restricted drivers (nvidia) in kubuntu?  I knew how on gnome..
[12:17] <linux_> nothing happpened
[12:17] <RawSewage_> Kubuntu doesnt have the REstricted Drivers thing yet
[12:17] <Guilty_as_Sin> oic
[12:17] <RawSewage_> I think it will in Gutsy
[12:17] <dwidmann> Guilty_as_Sin: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:17] <crdlb> linux_, make sure you have the "emerald-themes" package installed
[12:17] <sercik> linux_: do kwin --replace
[12:17] <crdlb> sercik, ?
[12:18] <crdlb> Guilty_as_Sin, you can use nvidia-glx-new if your card is FX series or newer
[12:18] <Jucato> dwidmann: might want to install linux-restricted-modules-generic ias well
[12:18] <Guilty_as_Sin> just add new to nividia-glx-???
[12:18] <linux_> Kwin Fatal IO error client killed
[12:19] <linux_> do u think cause beryl is still running?
[12:19] <Guilty_as_Sin> or is it a different command all-to-gether?
[12:19] <Jucato> linux_: you can't have 2 window managers (beryl and kwin) running at the same time
[12:19] <Guilty_as_Sin> it is Fx series
[12:19] <sercik> but with --replace yes
[12:20] <linux_> :S
[12:20] <sercik> linux_: do the command sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals
[12:20] <crdlb> sercik, no
[12:20] <sercik> this adds the correct line to your xorg.conf
[12:20] <crdlb> he's not on nvidia
[12:20] <linux_> im on ati
[12:20] <sercik> then restart X
[12:20] <linux_> Ok
[12:20] <crdlb> linux_, don't
[12:20] <sercik> crdlb: which is your problem?
[12:21] <crdlb> what?
[12:21] <sercik> linux_: doesn't have a nvidia card?
[12:21] <crdlb> correct
[12:21] <crdlb> he has a radeon 9600
[12:21] <sercik> i have a nvidia card and that solution works for me
[12:21] <crdlb> and he doesn't
[12:21] <sercik> ah ut i have asked him for a nvidia
[12:21] <Guilty_as_Sin> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new && sudo nvidia-xconfig   correct?
[12:22] <crdlb> Guilty_as_Sin, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new linux-generic && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:22] <linux_> shall i stop beryl and restart it?
[12:22] <sercik> i don't know ati i will not speak anymore... sorry!
[12:22] <crdlb> that covers all your bases
[12:22] <Guilty_as_Sin> thanks
[12:22] <crdlb> linux_, sudo apt-get install emerald-themes
[12:22] <crdlb> make sure that's installed
[12:23] <linux_> its downloading them
[12:23] <linux_> woo!
[12:23] <linux_> i have it back
[12:23] <linux_> nice one dude
[12:23] <linux_> Im gona log this convo for future use.
[12:24] <linux_> crdlb: many thanks
[12:24] <linux_> one thing i dont know beryl comands
[12:24] <linux_> like to change screens
[12:24] <malik__> what software shud i use if i need to convert real audio file into mp3 format?
[12:24] <crdlb> linux_, try: ctrl+alt+mouse_drag :D
[12:24] <RawSewage_> mplayer
[12:24] <linux_> wow
[12:25] <linux_> id thaught that would be jumpy
[12:25] <linux_> lol
[12:25] <RawSewage_> mplayer can convert ra to mp3
[12:25] <linux_> crdlb: i just send the windows all back, how did i do that it was a mistake
[12:25] <linux_> hehe
[12:25] <malik__> RawSewage_: how do i do that with mplayer?
[12:26] <RawSewage_> malik__: Im on the Live CD now, so I dont have the command handy
[12:26] <crdlb> linux_, this is a good reference to all the plugins: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Plugins
[12:26] <linux_> thanks :)
[12:27] <linux_> you know some people
[12:27] <RawSewage_> I can tell you in a little bit though
[12:27] <linux_> minamze and have fire
[12:27] <linux_> is that compiz
[12:27] <linux_> and not beryl
[12:28] <RawSewage_> malik__: actually, I convert ra to wav first, then convert it to ogg after Im done editing out the commercials
[12:28] <malik__> RawSewage_:  thats oki but i cant see any options in mplayer to do that
[12:28] <crdlb> linux_, that's beryl
[12:29] <RawSewage_> I think its something like   mplayer -ao pcm:file blah blah
[12:29] <RawSewage_> I cant remember offhand
[12:29] <missmolotov> odder and odder if you do lshw and lshw -html they give different results
[12:30] <linux_> ohh
[12:30] <linux_> and thats a plugin?
[12:30] <G3NESIS> Can someone please help me. I'm trying to enter super user mode using "su -p" but it says my password is wrong.
[12:31] <Jucato> !sudo | G3NESIS
[12:31] <ubotu> G3NESIS: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:31] <crdlb> linux_, it's part of the visual effects>animation
[12:31] <crdlb> plugin
[12:31] <crdlb> linux_, it's called the "burn" effect
[12:31] <RawSewage_> malik__:  you use mplayer in the konsole
[12:31] <RawSewage_> malik__: to convert
[12:32] <RawSewage_> actually, I have it set to where I just double click an .ra file and it automatically convert it to wav
[12:32] <malik__> RawSewage_: dont knoiw hot to do that, might try it laters then, thanx for trying anyways
[12:33] <RawSewage_> ok
[12:33] <rowenthedark> How do I change screen resolution?
[12:33] <dwidmann> perhaps 'mencoder -oac mp3lame FILE' would work also
[12:34] <Jucato> rowenthedark: System Settings -> Monitor & Display
[12:34] <m_tadeu> hi...can anyone please tell me where to find the hardware detection application?
[12:35] <rowenthedark> jucato: no such entry.
[12:35] <dwidmann> rowenthedark: do you have "kdeguidance" installed?
[12:35] <Jucato> rowenthedark: what do you mean? K Menu -> System Settings (the application)
[12:35] <Jucato> not the System menu in K Menu
[12:37] <rowenthedark> jucato: then which system menu?
[12:37] <Jucato> rowenthedark: not a menu. the "System Settings" app
[12:38] <rowenthedark> jucato okay
[12:38] <Jucato> It's just below Utilities, above Find Files & Folders
[12:42] <rowenthedark> jucato found it, but no display option.
[12:42] <Jucato> Monitor& Display is the name
[12:42] <rowenthedark> It isn't there.
[12:42] <bentob0x> what's the best software to view quicktime files?
[12:42] <Jucato> rowenthedark: ok, check if you have "kde-guidance" installed
[12:42] <rowenthedark> jucato: That could have been the problem.
[12:42] <rowenthedark> jucato: If I change my resolution to 1024x768 on widescreen will it fill up the whole screen still?
[12:43] <Jucato> um I guess so
[12:43] <Jucato> don't really know. I don't have widescreen
[12:44] <rowenthedark> jucato: Okay. Installed kde-guidance but still no monitor in settings.
[12:44] <Jucato> rowenthedark: ok, press Alt+F2, type in "displayconfig"
[12:45] <rowenthedark> Great
[12:45] <rowenthedark> That did it,
[12:46] <rowenthedark> jucato: Now all my drive icons are gone.
[12:47] <rowenthedark> brb
[12:48] <rowenthedark> jucato: thanks for the help. :)
[12:53] <FSHero> Hello all; I have a problem...
[12:53] <pvandewyngaerde> when booting i get error " apt not installed type apt-get install alt to get it"
[12:54] <iarwain_> anyone know something about dvd::rip and subtitles? got a strange problem..
[12:54] <FSHero> ... my computer does not automatically shut down; I have to manually press the power button.
[12:55] <G3NESIS> Can someone help me please Help. How do I configure startup applications?
[12:55] <FSHero> Is there any way to make my comp shut down without me having to press the power button? Atm, I see the black bar of Kubuntu fill, and my hard disk 'click' ominously, but no automatic shutdown occurs.
[12:55] <Jucato> !autostart | G3NESIS
[12:55] <ubotu> G3NESIS: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[12:57] <G3NESIS> Thanks Jucato. I should just do commands when I ever need info.
[12:57] <bentob0x> anybody knows how to run quicktime movies through your browser?
[12:57] <FSHero> G3NESIS: I use Xfce too, as well as KDE. Will that autostart programs in Xfce?
[12:58] <Jucato> FSHero: no. GNOME, KDE, and Xfce have different autostart mechanisms
[12:58] <FSHero> Jucato: aha. nm
[12:59] <Jucato> bentob0x: iirc, libxine-extracodecs will let you play those
[01:00] <bentob0x> going to look for that, thx Jucato
[01:04] <FSHero> Just quickly, how do you check, from the command line, whether you have a package installed?
[01:19] <LinuxApe> ClamTk claims it doesn't have virus definitions and suggests using freshclam to get them, but when I click help->UpdateSignatures, it tells me my virus information is up-to-date.  Any fix?
[01:29] <Medvebocs_> hi
[01:43] <fab_> hallo
[01:45] <ardchoille> Bot, this channel died real quick.
[01:45] <ardchoille> *Boy
[01:47] <FSHero> where has everybody gone? (lunch?)
[01:48] <FSHero> A sort-of off-topic question, but: if Sun has released Java under the GPL, how come it isn't put on the K/X/Ubuntu CDs?
[01:50] <Dragnslcr> It probably will be in the (somewhat) near future
[01:53] <FSHero> Dragnslcr: cool!
[02:00] <rowenthedark> Beryl and superkaramba won't run at the same time? or do they need to be loaded in a certain order?
[02:06] <rowenthedark> Correction of previous question: Beryl has to load first then superkaramba. :)
[02:07] <rowenthedark> Now how can I load beryl and superkaramba with all my widgets when kde starts?
[02:17] <opticyclic> rowenthedark: you should be able to. I am set up that way, although I cant tell you exactly what I did :)
[02:18] <opticyclic> have you set beryl as the default window manager?
[02:19] <rowenthedark> opticyclic: No don't know how to set beryl as default window manager
[02:20] <rowenthedark> opticyclic: Come to think of it preloading beryl would be a great help. Superkaramba I can load after that manually I guess.
[02:21] <pawitp> I'm finding KVM extremely slow for some reason
[02:22] <Young_Druid> hi, all. can anyone suggest why vpn connection is enabled only 0.9 minutes? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25228/
[02:25] <mikkael> i need some help: when i boot my system i get "mounting local filesystems" -> "failed" .. where can i see what is going wrong ?
[02:27] <DJServers> is there a command in konsole to format one of my harddisks ?
[02:27] <DJServers> i need to do that
[02:27] <DJServers> !harddisk
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about harddisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <Dragnslcr> !fdisk
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <mikkael> DJServers: Try QTParted or GParted
[02:31] <mikkael> !qtparted
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <mikkael> :)
[02:31] <tazz> do we have a tool to configure ipaddress in kubuntu?
[02:31] <DJServers> hi
[02:32] <ardchoille> FSHero: For one thing, once a version of ubuntu is released, the repos don't get new software.. only security updates and bug fixes.
[02:32] <DJServers> how can i format my harddisk? one of them?
[02:33] <ardchoille> !format
[02:33] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:33] <DJServers> is there some cind of command for console?
[02:34] <mikkael> didnt you read? mkfs
[02:34] <DJServers> !find | mkfs
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <opticyclic> rowenthedark: can you right click on the Emerald and set the default manager from there? Is there an option in the session manager as you login? I'm not at my linux box at the mo so I cant give exact info
[02:35] <DJServers> !info | mkfs
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <Jucato> DJServers: that's not how to use it
[02:35] <Jucato> !find mkfs
[02:35] <DJServers> o lol :P
[02:35] <ubotu> File mkfs found in gfs-tools, gfs2-tools, jfsutils, util-linux
[02:35] <DJServers> !Gparted
[02:35] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:35] <ardchoille> Probably util-linux
[02:35] <Jucato> DJServers: mkfs is already installed anyway.
[02:35] <Jucato> no, it's there by default afaik
[02:35] <DJServers> o where can i find it?
[02:36] <ardchoille> man mkfs
[02:36] <Jucato> er.. type it in the command line :)
[02:36] <ardchoille> It should already be installed
[02:36] <Jucato> or do what ardchoille said to find out the specifics
[02:36] <DJServers> o yeah
[02:36] <DJServers> i typted in console man mkfs
[02:37] <DJServers> can i format one of my harddisks with that?
[02:37] <ardchoille> DJServers: And if you need to partition, there's fdisk.. but that's one of those things where a gui is kinda handy (qtparted)
[02:38] <DJServers> but with what program can i format a hole harddisk?
[02:38] <ardchoille> mkfs
[02:38] <ardchoille> That builds a Linux file system
[02:38] <DJServers> but how i dont get it :P
[02:39] <ardchoille> You'll need to read the man page for the specific options
[02:39] <ardchoille> I've never used mkfs, I always use qtparted to format partitions
[02:40] <DJServers> not format partitions the hole disk
[02:40] <tanaka> hi all
[02:41] <ardchoille> DJServers: A disk is broken up into partitions, each partition has a file system. You don't mount devices, you mount file systems. If you want to format the entire disk, you just need to format the partitions on the disk or create new partitions
[02:41] <DJServers> but how thats the thing i dont understand
[02:41] <ardchoille> You'll need to read the man page for the specific options
[02:42] <t0vig> has anyone played with source compiling all their packages?
[02:42] <DJServers> i did that already but i dont under stand it
[02:42] <DJServers> !format
[02:42] <ardchoille> t0vig: Why would you want to do that? compiling everything would take days.
[02:42] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:43] <DJServers> !GParted
[02:43] <t0vig> ardchoille: Because Gentoo runs almost 2x's faster on my slow PC
[02:43] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:43] <t0vig> ardchoille: I was thinking about hacking adept to do it
[02:43] <opticyclic> Which channel is discussing UI improvements, graphics/colours etc?
[02:44] <ardchoille> t0vig: I don't know, I gave up compiling when I discovered Ubuntu in 2004, lol
[02:44] <Jucato> opticyclic: for what?
[02:45] <opticyclic> suggestions for default Kubuntu wallpaper themes etc
[02:46] <ardchoille> opticyclic: Have you tried http://www.kde-look.org  ?
[02:46] <t0vig> ardchoille: obviously, it would have no *mass* appeal, it's just won of those "because it COULD be done" things ;-)
[02:46] <opticyclic> I know how to change stuff, I just want the default changed :)
[02:46] <tanaka> whats the correct way of installing the newest nvidia drivers from the nvidia site.I instlalled build-essentials and installed the driver,but it failed last time(i am using a freshly installed os /w 2.6.20-16 kernel)
[02:46] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[02:47] <ardchoille> opticyclic: Wnat some pneguins on ur desktop?
[02:47] <Jucato> opticyclic: want? I don't think it will be easy to get defaults changed just because you *want* too :)
[02:47] <BluesKaj> tanaka, how did it fail , the installation or implementation ?
[02:47] <opticyclic> I want to suggest something and see what others think
[02:47] <opticyclic> Dont you think the default KDM is too pale?
[02:47] <Jucato> opticyclic: which part
[02:48] <tanaka> BluesKaj: kde didn't load after reboot
[02:48] <opticyclic> let me dig up a screenshot
[02:48] <Jucato> opticyclic: #ubuntu-artwork
[02:48] <Jucato> opticyclic: no need for a screenshot. just w/c part of the screen?
[02:48] <Jucato> because the background is the same as the wallpaper, and so is the logo
[02:48] <ardchoille> opticyclic: It has to be kinda "bland", otherwise you'd have to appeal to everyone and I don't think millions of wallpapers would fit in the kde release
[02:48] <BluesKaj> ok tanaka , did you try the startx command at the prompt ?
[02:49] <BluesKaj> or startkde
[02:49] <tanaka> BluesKaj: startx worked just after the install(before restart)
[02:49] <Jucato> tanaka: any reason you don't want to use the packaged nvidia drivers?
[02:50] <opticyclic> OK here is an example of it being too pale http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/scaled/Kubuntu%207.10%20Alpha%201/3.gif
[02:51] <BluesKaj> tanaka, so what is the pc doing in right now ?
[02:51] <ardchoille> opticyclic: Ok, you know you can grab one of the gdm themes in /usr/share/gdm/themes and change the colours or images, right?
[02:51] <rjune__> Is there a repository for "testing" packages?
[02:51] <BluesKaj> err doing right now
[02:51] <Jucato> opticyclic: I still can't see what is too pail
[02:51] <Jucato> pale
[02:52] <Jucato> rjune__: what do you mean by "testing"
[02:52] <tanaka> Jucato: i think the latest 100.14.9 is still not packaged
[02:52] <rjune__> Jucato: I mean a repository for stuff that is unstable, but should probably work
[02:52] <Jucato> !backports
[02:52] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[02:52] <ardchoille> rjune__: I think the closest thing would be backports
[02:52] <tanaka> BluesKaj: I reinstalled the system
[02:52] <BluesKaj> rjune__, search here : http://www.google.com/linux
[02:52] <opticyclic> compare it to this screenshot http://amitshah.bizhat.com/images/kde-3.5alpha1.png
[02:53] <opticyclic> it is much more of a bolder blue
[02:53] <Jucato> rjune__: but Ubuntu doesn't have the stable/testing/unstable setup of Debian.
[02:53] <DJServers> !theme
[02:53] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[02:53] <DJServers> !changethemes
[02:53] <ubotu> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[02:53] <Jucato> opticyclic: I believe you are not comparing the kdm theme. you are comparing wallpapers
[02:53] <ardchoille> opticyclic: That's what I meant, you can easily make your own themes and wallpapers
[02:54] <rjune__> I was hoping to find prebuilt packages of egroupware. I'm assuming that major revs don't get bumped during a release, ya?
[02:54] <Jucato> rjune__: if they do get bumped, they either end up in -updates or most probably -backports.
[02:54] <Jucato> but that's not an absolute
[02:54] <zipper> damn
[02:54] <opticyclic> I couldn't find a KDM theme screenshot, but the colours in those two are a comparison
[02:54] <zipper> wine has become pretty nice
[02:55] <opticyclic> I think Kubuntu needs a bolder default theme to impress new users
[02:55] <Jucato> opticyclic: besides, that's not pale blue. that's purple. it was meant to be that way, not pale blue
[02:55] <Jucato> you can argue all you want in #ubuntu-artwork if you want. good luck
[02:55] <Jucato> (bluish purple)
[02:55] <opticyclic> is there a kubuntu artwork?
[02:55] <ardchoille> lol
[02:56] <BluesKaj> I just use a pic of a painting done by my great uncle on the family farm, as wallpaper no need for penguins to remind me I'm using linux
[02:56] <Jucato> would I have given you #ubuntu-artwork if there's a #kubuntu-artwork?
[02:56] <opticyclic> :-[
[02:56] <Jucato> (and I've given it twice...)
[02:57] <rowenthedark> How does one change the mounted drive icons. IE why dont i have permision?
[02:57] <Jucato> !irc | opticyclic
[02:57] <ubotu> opticyclic: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[02:57] <BluesKaj> all this gnasshing of teeth over the colour purple :)
[02:57] <Jucato> opticyclic: there's a list of IRC channels ^^^
[02:57] <rowenthedark> opticyclic: Thank you
[02:57] <rjune__> Jucato: thanks.
[02:58] <BluesKaj> the forgot to include #tovid
[02:59] <Jucato> include it where?
[02:59] <BluesKaj> in th freenode list
[03:00] <Jucato> heh not my concern :P
[03:00] <BluesKaj> I know
[03:00] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:00] <BluesKaj> just tried safari for windows ... very plainjane , but very fast too
[03:01] <ubunturos> konqueror might be faster ;)
[03:02] <Jucato> except that it doesn't exist for windows, so the argument is moot :)
[03:03] <BluesKaj> been trying to figure out a way to get wife off windows but since her fav Solitaire game isn't available in Linux i was wondeing if the exe file will run in wine without a windows parition ?
[03:03] <pawitp> Alot of things run in wine without a windows partition
[03:03] <agn0stic> BluesKaj: What solitaire game?  Like a really specific solitare game
[03:03] <BluesKaj> yes
[03:03] <BluesKaj> hang on
[03:04] <pawitp> I'd think using a windows partition is really opsolete
[03:04] <ardchoille> pawitp: Including windows viruses, trojans, worms, etc.
[03:04] <Jucato> pawitp: huh? wine never required a windows partition, ever.
[03:04] <pawitp> Long ago it needed alot of win98 libs
[03:04] <pawitp> and it's best run with a win98 partition
[03:05] <pawitp> ardchoille: Why would you want to run those? Alot will fail though since holes in windows usually doesn't exists in wine
[03:05] <BluesKaj> yeah, It's the Goodsol development CD with "Pretty Good Solitaire"
[03:05] <ardchoille> pawitp: Wanna bet? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72598
[03:06] <ardchoille> pawitp: Here's another :)  http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=146
[03:06] <rowenthedark> Hello again. I would like to change my drive icons, but kde says i dont have permission. How would I go about this?
[03:08] <BluesKaj> pawitp, since we still need to deal with foreign country documentation for me and the kids etc we need a scanning app that works properly and kooka doesn't have the adjustments to make good existing copies of those documents .
[03:08] <BluesKaj> hence: the windows partiton , mainly for scanning
[03:10] <BluesKaj> and our friend to the south (mr bush) i making it more difficult to cross the border
[03:13] <pawitp> BluesKaj: I thought you're talking about windows partition for wine
[03:19] <JuJuBee> I need some help recompiling squid.  I know what options I need, but never recompiled something to install.  I have always used precompiled binaries.
[03:35] <sito> hellow?
[03:35] <sito> a programa similar of spacemonger for linux?
[03:35] <Tm_T> sito: how about telling us what this "spacemonger" does?
[03:35] <ardchoille> sito: What does it do?
[03:36] <Jucato> what is spacemonger? :)
[03:36] <sito> mmm
[03:37] <sito> http://www.sixty-five.cc/sm/v1x.php
[03:37] <ardchoille> sito: There is a file manager that does that, but I can't remember the name. Perhaps: apt-cache search file manager
[03:39] <sito> ok!!
[03:39] <sito> kdirstat!!
[03:39] <sito> this name is kdirstat :D
[03:39] <Jucato> sito: actually, Konqueror already has that feature built-in
[03:39] <Jucato> View menu -> View Mode -> File Size View
[03:40] <ardchoille> There are others too, there are also 3d file managers.. one of them lays out the fs like a universe and you can "fly" through it :)
[03:40] <Jucato> then there's even Filelight for fancier effects
[03:40] <Jucato> !filelight
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filelight - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <Jucato> er.. sorry...
[03:40] <Jucato> !info filelight
[03:40] <ardchoille> Jucato: fileflight is the one I was thinking of
[03:40] <ubotu> filelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB
[03:40] <Tm_T> Jucato: actually after installing filelight, Konqueror has tha viewmode too ;)
[03:41] <Jucato> Tm_T: yes. but I discovered one peculiarity...
[03:41] <Tm_T> yes?
[03:41] <Jucato> but it's an advanced setup so it's not biggie
[03:41] <rowenthedark> I am back I told the desktop configure to not display devices, yet my hard disk mounts are still visible why?
[03:42] <Jucato> Tm_T: btw, it seems that my telco doesn't allow some internet services through gprs... like IRC :(
[03:42] <Tm_T> rowenthedark: harddisk is not device in that sense I think
[03:42] <Tm_T> Jucato: haha =)
[03:42] <sito> ula
[03:42] <Tm_T> Jucato: cut ports?
[03:42] <Jucato> Tm_T: someone told me of SSH... but since I don't know how... I'm putting it off until the next time I need it :)
[03:42] <rowenthedark> tm_t is there a way to make them go away besides unmounting them?
[03:43] <Tm_T> Jucato: well, I can do ssh account to my system, so you just log in and run irssi here
[03:43] <Tm_T> rowenthedark: not showing icons at all?
[03:43] <Tm_T> rowenthedark: or, look other options, dunno
[03:43] <Jucato> rowenthedark: uncheck the Mounted Hard Disk Volume, click Apply, then uncheck the Show device icons.
[03:44] <Jucato> that's all in the right-click Configure Desktop -> Behavior options -> Device Icons tab
[03:44] <rowenthedark> jucato: still there.
[03:45] <Jucato> Tm_T: quick question about that ssh.. does that mean I need to have my desktop up and running too?
[03:45] <Jucato> Tm_T: so that I would have to SSH into my desktop to be able to IRC on my laptop?
[03:45] <Tm_T> Jucato: err, well, you need ssh server running in server end
[03:45] <Jucato> pft... :(
[03:45] <Jucato> not an option then...
[03:46] <Tm_T> Jucato: well, as said, I can add account in my pc
[03:46] <Jucato> hehe thanks. but I'll try to find an alternative first. :)
[03:46] <Jucato> when I'm desperate again... :)
[03:46] <Tm_T> Jucato: but gprs is hell slow with ssh, you know, 1-10 second delay with typing etc
[03:47] <rowenthedark> I guess i could unmount and remount maybe.
[03:47] <Tm_T> rowenthedark: worth of trying
[03:47] <Jucato> Tm_T: definitely faster than CGI IRC.. plus I would be able to connect here :)
[03:47] <Tm_T> haha
[03:47] <Tm_T> true
[03:47] <Jucato> and GPRS is better than no internet at all :)
[03:47] <Jucato> but just you wait, once I get this wireless card fixed...
[03:47] <Tm_T> definately
[03:47] <Tm_T> Jucato: well, I was with gprs almost two months
[03:48] <Tm_T> and wasn't first time it was my only connection
[03:48] <rowenthedark> Tm_T: it isnt mounted by hal so unmount doesnt work.
[03:49] <Tm_T> hm
[03:49] <Tm_T> rowenthedark: use umount from shell
[03:49] <rowenthedark> Tm_T: what is the syntax of it?
[03:50] <Tm_T> rowenthedark: umount /device or /mountpoint
[03:50] <Tm_T> rowenthedark: umount --help ;)
[03:54] <rowenthedark> Tm_T: icons are still there
[03:54] <Tm_T> fun
[03:54] <rowenthedark> Tm_T: I know
[03:55] <rowenthedark> Tm_T: Oh well.
[03:55] <Tm_T> glad I don't need desktop icons <3
[03:56] <BluesKaj> <--- old windows user ...I need 'em
[03:56] <Jucato> Tm_T: maybe you'll be using "icons" once aseigo's plans for Plasma are fulfilled :)
[03:58] <rowenthedark> Tm_T: weird seems the icons are physical drive representations.
[03:58] <Jucato> BluesKaj: Plasma is a sort of rethinking of the old desktop metaphor, which includes desktop icons. iirc, he wants to make them more dynamic and add other stuff
[03:58] <BluesKaj> must be talking about games again, eh Jucato ?
[03:59] <Jucato> he's not a fan of the existing implementation of desktop icons either
[03:59] <Jucato> BluesKaj: what in the world are you talking about?
[03:59] <BluesKaj> err dynamic is a word that is used in many contexts...
[03:59] <Jucato> well it's all pretty vague at the moment
[03:59] <BluesKaj> Jucato, i thot Plasma was a game
[04:00] <Jucato> again,  what in the world are you talking about? ;)
[04:00] <BluesKaj> don't ask me why either :)
[04:00] <BluesKaj> yeah, maybe too
[04:01] <BluesKaj> is there a newsletter ?
[04:01] <Jucato> http://dot.kde.org
[04:01] <Tm_T> Jucato: I won't
[04:01] <^RiaN^> gunbound on linux
[04:01] <Jucato> Tm_T: who knows... I'm not a desktop icon user myself, but who knows... :)
[04:02] <Tm_T> Jucato: I won't
[04:02] <Jucato> oh well... time to go back to reality :)
[04:02] <Jucato> ok ok, I get the message :)
[04:02] <Tm_T> Jucato: I won't
[04:03] <Jucato> hmph
[04:03] <Jucato> anyway, I'm gone
[04:03] <Tm_T> Jucato: I wooooooooowww
[04:03] <Jucato> bot script not working properly? :)
[04:03] <Tm_T> ok, now it's settled
[04:03] <Tm_T> script?
[04:03] <Tm_T> I'm not a script!
[04:06] <marko> ubotu,
[04:07] <hendra11279> hi all
[04:09] <hendra11279> i have problem with stellarium in kubuntu feisty,i can't read the text ,the text write in symbol like this --.----. can anyone help me ?pls
[04:13] <ubuntu__> hey
[04:22] <zipper> anyone know where to find a wine help channel?
[04:22] <zipper> or have anyone inhere had any luck with running the Overlord Demo in wine?
[04:22] <rowenthedark> Yay, They went away.
[04:23] <zipper> what? The voices in my head? No, they're still there.
[04:23] <Jucato> zipper: #winehq
[04:24] <zipper> thx
[04:24] <Dr_willis> Hmm - heres a sick idea...    wine SafariSetup.exe
[04:24] <Dr_willis> :) lets see if it works.
[04:24] <rowenthedark> Hehehe
[04:25] <Dr_willis> I never have figured out how they benchmark browsers to show they are 'faster' then others...
[04:25] <Dr_willis> Faster downloading? faster just rendering? faster at getting the porn?
[04:25] <rowenthedark> Okay, here's a dumb question. Why is it on my desktop that windows always has memory read errors, but linux never does?
[04:26] <jzilla> becuase
[04:26] <Dr_willis> rowenthedark,  hmm.. ya may want to open up the pc, dust it out, reseat the memory, and run that memorytest progtram from the grub entry for a few hrs to test the mem.
[04:26] <jzilla> linux >
[04:26] <rowenthedark> Dr_willis: Not a bad idea thanks.
[04:28] <rowenthedark> Also I never noticed how hard it can be to customize a desktop like KDE.
[04:28] <Dr_willis> Darn the SafariSetup.exe Hung.
[04:28] <rowenthedark> :( sniff
[04:28] <Dr_willis> Customize in what way?
[04:28] <Jucato> !changethemes | rowenthedark
[04:28] <ubotu> rowenthedark: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[04:28] <Dr_willis> kde has a lot of features that are accessed with various config files., then ya could alwyas just change the windowmanater
[04:29] <Dr_willis> windowmanager
[04:29] <rowenthedark> Add stuff, like karamba, beryl, change the way things behave. Must be 5000 things you can change in there.
[04:29] <Jucato> well, beryl isn't exactly KDE, so that's a different topic...
[04:29] <rowenthedark> Yeah, but that was the easiest.
[04:30] <Dr_willis> well beryl is still a work in progress..
[04:30] <Jucato> about superkaramba, it's all about finding the theme that performs properly
[04:30] <Dr_willis> and Karamba is considered.. well..  i wont say. :)
[04:30] <rowenthedark> Oh can anybody think of why I have to enable networking on my primary account (GNOME) for it to work in KDE?
[04:30] <Dr_willis> beryl has so many options in its control panel thing. its scary.
[04:30] <Dr_willis> rowenthedark,  wireless?
[04:31] <rowenthedark> Dr_willis: Yes.
[04:31] <Dr_willis> No idea there. :) ive given up on wireless. heh.. for now.
[04:31] <Dr_willis> theres proberly the kde wireless tools you need to configure.
[04:31] <Dr_willis> at leat it works in gnome for ya.  So thats a good sign.
[04:32] <rowenthedark> Dr_willis: I would have too, but my wireless works pretty well out of the box, just like beryl.
[04:32] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_willis
[04:32] <rowenthedark> <-- remembers broadcom wireless hell.
[04:32] <Minataku> Heh, I'm lucky enough to have a computer old enough to have a completely wide-open wireless chipset
[04:33] <Minataku> Specifically, orinoco_cs
[04:33] <Dr_willis> rowenthedark,  im suprised at the statement "beryl/wireless  + works pretty well " :)
[04:33] <FSHero> ardchoille: A belated (by 2 hours) thanks for the answer.
[04:33] <Minataku> In-kernel driver, fully open-source, fully open-spec, never a problem whatsoever.
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Hay Minataku. :)
[04:33] <Minataku> But then my computer is from around 2003
[04:33] <rowenthedark> dr willis: I installed and everything came up right away. I was suprised.
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  its just so old it only does Wep? :)
[04:34] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Bingo
[04:34] <Minataku> None of this WPA bullcrap
[04:34] <Minataku> Which is also completely trivial to crack
[04:34] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  I got a similer thing..  My router has a 'block based on MAC' - wonder how safe that is.
[04:34] <rowenthedark> But can't wep be sniffed?
[04:34] <Minataku> rowenthedark: ANY signal transmitted via radio can be sniffed
[04:34] <FSHero> Minataku: so, does that mean that even the best security system for wireless networks is insecure?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Perhaps the wireless-N cards will get their acts together.
[04:35] <Minataku> For that matter, any signal transmitted via WIRE can be sniffed
[04:35] <rowenthedark> Wireless N Hahahahahaha
[04:35] <Dr_willis> haxor the Pomeriannai!
[04:35] <Minataku> Wiretapping has the advantage of requiring physical access to the actual line
[04:35] <Minataku> As for sniffing wireless, all you need to do is be close enough to the area
[04:36] <Minataku> Remember, radio signals radiate out more or less spherically
[04:36] <rowenthedark> And linux happens to have the tools. :)
[04:36] <Minataku> As long as you have all the equipment within this sphere, you can access it given proper tools
[04:36] <c1|freaky> someone knows how to install a console font which is allready in /usr/share/consolefonts ? i want to install the matrix font for cmatrix
[04:37] <rowenthedark> Kind of makes me paranoid about my wireless security.
[04:37] <Minataku> rowenthedark: When I get my own place, no wireless.
[04:37] <ardchoille> FSHero: You're welcome :)
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  that reminds me. Seen any easy to build wirless antannas  - directional. got a friend with 2 houses about 300 ft apart he wants to set up a wireless network on.
[04:37] <Minataku> I've already made that decision.
[04:37] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Can style
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  or any decent antanas allready made/kits.
[04:37] <Minataku> Similar to a satellite dish
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Yea. cantannas would be good.   glue a laser pointer to the top. :) let him aim at each other.
[04:38] <Minataku> Yep
[04:38] <Minataku> That should do it
[04:38] <andri> need help!! how to install mp3 codec in kubuntu feisty?
[04:38] <rowenthedark> Hmmmm.... Then again there are a HUGE number of people who dont even protect thier wireless network.
[04:38] <andri> i'm newbie
[04:38] <Dr_willis> Hes a 'perfectionist' freak however. so he wants somthing that looks good.
[04:38] <Minataku> Radio not my field of Comp Eng Tech, but I know that much about it
[04:38] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[04:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:38] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Then suggest only the ugliest possible solutions
[04:39] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  hes been websurfing and finding all these business style solutions.. he cant underatand he just needs 2 decent antannas.
[04:39] <Minataku> That's not "perfectionism" that's someone who's idiotically attached to asthetics
[04:39] <rowenthedark> hehehe
[04:39] <ardchoille> lol
[04:39] <Minataku> Function over form. No exceptions.
[04:39] <andri> thanks ubotu
[04:39] <Minataku> Make it work well first and foremost.
[04:39] <Minataku> Once that's done, then you can make it look good
[04:39] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  speaking of Function over form.. Tried to 'wine Safarisetup.exe' :) it dident work.
[04:40] <Minataku> Provided it doesn't interfere with function
[04:40] <soulrider> andri: ubotu is a bot, no need to thank him, you can give him a snack though
[04:40] <rowenthedark> :( Sniff
[04:40] <soulrider> !botsnack
[04:40] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:40] <ardchoille> hahahaha
[04:40] <soulrider> it has a sense of humor too :P
[04:40] <ardchoille> I don't blame him, yum sucks
[04:40] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I'm sure he can just make a cantenna then mold around it some kind of housing
[04:40] <rowenthedark> !yum
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <Minataku> !anything
[04:40] <rowenthedark> What is yum?
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <Minataku> I can teh defeat teh bot
[04:41] <Minataku> X3
[04:41] <soulrider> yum is red hats package management or suses
[04:41] <soulrider> i cant really remember
[04:41] <rowenthedark> Oh.
[04:41] <ardchoille> rowenthedark: yum is a (very slow) package manager
[04:41] <Minataku> Hooray for invisible control characters :3
[04:41] <rowenthedark> So many config options. :(
[04:41] <Jucato> soulrider: RH's
[04:41] <rowenthedark> I'm going to be here for weeks.
[04:42] <balaji> how to create iso image of a CD in kubuntu
[04:42] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  yea. its going to be sitting in his Kitchen window however. :)
[04:42] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Find any suitable boxes? Those calculators? Other awesome "junk"?
[04:42] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  found the calculators. Several Ti's
[04:42] <Minataku> Dr_willis: In that case, find an old metal trash can >:D
[04:42] <ardchoille> balaji: mksiofs is what you're after. Perhaps man mkisofs will give you some clues
[04:42] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Sweet! Models? :D
[04:42] <rowenthedark> <-is through whining about it now.
[04:42] <Dr_willis> found my old hp 28s - you cant have it. :) i survived college with it. heh heh..
[04:43] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heehee, sentimental value, I understand :3
[04:43] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  so far i think 3 of them are the same as that other TI i told ya .. One is some RadioShack. other is a ti99 or somthing. LCD. so its newer
[04:43] <Minataku> Cool
[04:43] <Dr_willis> I though i had some HP's but cant find them.
[04:43] <Minataku> Well, if you have them near or when you get a chance, PM me the model numbers and I'll look 'em up
[04:44] <Dr_willis> Yea. they were the same Model # i mentioned last week. 3 identical Calculators.
[04:44] <Minataku> That way I can drool over pictures of them instead of all over them... XD
[04:44] <Dr_willis> then the 2 cheaper ones. Heh heh.
[04:44] <Minataku> By the time they arrive I should be out of drool X3
[04:45] <Dr_willis> Wife is still recovering. So ive not been out the the garrage yet.  ya need the Scsi Cable for that mac scsi drive?
[04:45] <Minataku> Yeah, I will
[04:45] <Dr_willis> not sure which one IS the scsi cable. :) its in a box.. Guess i will look and see what fits.
[04:45] <Dr_willis> they look much different from a serial cable heh.
[04:45] <Minataku> I'ma look into writing a program on my A/UX machine to maybe see if I can't harass via ioctls the FDC to write Amiga-class floppies
[04:45] <Minataku> It's MFM, it's just incredibly tight
[04:45] <andri> need help again... i have installed both compiz and beryl... but it always crashes when i run it
[04:46] <Minataku> The standard PC FDC can't write to them because it's way too tight on the media
[04:46] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  heh.  Ive always wanted one of those Wildcat controller cards that can use all the old floppy disks.
[04:46] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  but Thats overkill.
[04:46] <Minataku> But now that I know it's still regular old MFM, I can see if I can coerce either the Quadra 650 or one of my Suns to write Amiga floppies
[04:47] <Dr_willis> I do Thibnk i have some old MFM hard drives somewhere. real real old.
[04:47] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Awesome
[04:47] <Dr_willis> I wast hinking that apple/macs could read the amiga floppies somehow.
[04:47] <Minataku> I _believe_ that the Suns have a different FDC than PCs
[04:47] <Dr_willis> I also need to test out the Reading of the amiga hard drives under linux.
[04:47] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Technically, a PC _could_ read them
[04:47] <Minataku> Amiga floppies are MFM, not GCR
[04:47] <Dr_willis> Thats how i was going to transfer floppies over.. DMS them onthe amiga to its HD. then usbcable the hd to pc.
[04:48] <Minataku> PC floppies are also MFM, as are 1.44MB Mac floppies
[04:48] <Dr_willis> we need s Geos64 theme for kde. :)
[04:48] <Minataku> The only ones to use GCR were the Mac 400 and 800
[04:49] <Dr_willis> ill stick with emulators. :) less desk space.
[04:49] <Jucato> !offtopic
[04:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:49] <Minataku> As a matter of fact, it could be possible to force the drive to do it via Linux
[04:49] <balaji> hi blueskaj
[04:49] <Minataku> Though the Amiga used MFM, the format places sectors too close together for a standard IBM PC compatible floppy disk controller to read (appearing as one 5632-byte physical sector per track).
[04:50] <Dr_willis>  is it possible to run Konqeror on OS-X ?  Saw they got Safari for windows.
[04:50] <BluesKaj> hi balaji
[04:50] <Minataku> That would be the "intersector gap"
[04:50] <Dr_willis> once ya get Minataku  started on hardware........... :)
[04:50] <Minataku> However, if a floppy is formatted with a too small inter sector gap, perfor-       mance may drop, up to needing a few seconds to access an entire track.
[04:50] <ardchoille> Yeah, he won't shut up, lol
[04:50] <Minataku> Theoretically, Linux CAN write Amiga floppies... it'll just be incredibly slow
[04:50] <balaji> blueskaj:i somehow formatted the drive and installed ubuntu 7.04
[04:51] <BluesKaj> I've tried qemu and virtual box with no luck at all ...too thick headed to understand how to make them work
[04:51] <Dr_willis> Its just amazing when ya look at the pc's we used to have..  and what we got now a days.
[04:51] <Dr_willis> virtualbox is rather straight forwared.
[04:51] <Dr_willis> ive had issues with it and livecd's however.
[04:51] <BluesKaj> cool balaji ...hows it running for you ?
[04:52] <Minataku> I could try to use ufiformat, edit the source and such... that'd be pretty slick, but I'd have to wait for the Amigas to arrive to test it XD
[04:52] <balaji> fine but the thing is i've got kubuntu 6.10 and windows on my laptop harddrive
[04:52] <BluesKaj> well Dr_willis , I guess i just don't "get it " :)
[04:52] <soulrider> BluesKaj: vmware is very easy to use!
[04:52] <balaji> and the cpu always ries to boot from the USB
[04:52] <balaji> so gives me a bootloader error 21
[04:53] <Dr_willis> BlueEagle,  run virtual box, make a new machine, slect the hardware, give it an .iso file for the cdrom, and power it up
[04:53] <BluesKaj> soulrider, maybe easy to use , but installation never seems to work
[04:53] <soulrider> BluesKaj:  really? i never had problems with it
[04:53] <Dr_willis> the current vmware - had some issues under ubuntu. Not sure if the packages have been fixed by now or not.
[04:54] <soulrider> yeah Dr_willis i think it does have some issues with feisty
[04:54] <BluesKaj> bully for you soulrider ...dunno , just never seems to install...there's always a prob
[04:54] <soulrider> my friend managed to install it though... and hes a total linux newbie
[04:54] <BluesKaj> bully for your friend too :)
[04:55] <Dr_willis> soulrider,  there was some updated/tweak on the vmware forums i recall. :)
[04:55] <soulrider> are you sure you have the kernel headers and stuff ?
[04:56] <Dr_willis> bbl..
[04:59] <Minataku> Let's try this and pray I don't blow out my FDD XD
[05:04] <jobezone>  Hi, does kopete 0.12.4 (kubuntu 7.04) have suport for webcam with the msn protocol?
[05:06] <zipper> jobezone, havent tested, but yeah, there are buttons for webcam stuff
[05:06] <Minataku> Damn
[05:06] <zipper> jobezone, i think
[05:06] <zipper> jobezone, let me see
[05:06] <jobezone> yeah, I see them.
[05:06] <Minataku> "Protocol error"
[05:07] <Minataku> I need to pull out the machine with the real FDD I think
[05:07] <jobezone> but they just don't work :) I'm trying aMSN now.
[05:08] <zipper> jobezone, "MSN supports the sending and receiving of webcams, if your camera is supported by the Video4Linux 2 (v4l2) standard. "
[05:08] <jobezone> hmm..
[05:08] <jobezone> I wonder if it's a port thing, then
[05:09] <jobezone> the webcam works great in the configuration dialog.
[05:09] <SlicerDicer-> ping
[05:12] <pgquiles> Riddell: ping
[05:14] <Zs_262> hi
[05:15] <pbn> Hello, I'm having severe issues with kppp on Kubuntu 6.06 LTS. Does any of you folks have the same kind of problem ?
[05:15] <pbn> well basically pppd crashes everytime it is called by kppp ... could that be a problem in Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[05:15] <linux_> crdlb: you still there dude?
[05:19] <linux_> after rebooting linux i lost the window task bars again
[05:19] <linux_> and only dragable way to move windows then is with alt n drab
[05:19] <ardchoille> linux_: You in kde?
[05:19] <balaji> pbn do u use a wireless modem?
[05:19] <linux_> grab
[05:19] <linux_> yea
[05:19] <ardchoille> linux_: Oh, you mean the titlebar
[05:19] <linux_> yea
[05:19] <linux_> crdlb had me to do a apt-get command and got them back with beryl working
[05:19] <linux_> every time i run beryl they go.
[05:25] <jobezone> after opening the TCP+UDP port range of 17669-17679 , aMSN works with the webcam.. still haven't tested with kopete
[05:29] <Minataku> Hrm!
[05:29] <Minataku> "Double-sided, 80 tracks, 11 sec/track. Total capacity 880kB."
[05:30] <Minataku> And it seems to be working
[05:30] <Minataku> Verification partially failed
[05:33] <Ronnin> does anyone have any suggestions as to why HALD whould hang for a long time, eventually fail, then setup just hang afterward?  I am using a board with a SIS650 chipset running from known good CD
[05:33] <jbrouhard> heh
[05:33] <jbrouhard> i see kopete hasn't been fixed ;)
[05:35] <Minataku> Hm... it seems to be able to format them... theoretically... I'll have to test out the Mac with this
[05:35] <Minataku> See if it's FDC can't properly write such
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  well one of the calculators is a Ti-30 :) . still looking for that scsi cable.. I keep finding OTHER things to  put in their right places..
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  Found a bunch of C64 software stillin the original box. :) and some C64 cartriges heh
[05:37] <frojnd> hello there, does ubuntu has any game for two players to play agains each other?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> frojnd,  depends on the kind of game ya want.
[05:37] <Daisuke_Ido> frojnd: there are a lot...  armagetron is classic
[05:37] <frojnd> Dr_willis: hm, like bombermam
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Theres a biplane game that i like. 2d = old skool
[05:38] <frojnd> Dr_willis: hm, like cars
[05:38] <Dr_willis> !find bomberman
[05:38] <ubotu> Package/file bomberman does not exist in feisty
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Theres a bomberman clone out. But i dont rember its name
[05:38] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Cool
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  if you want/need C64 stuff that is. :)
[05:39] <Minataku> Dr_willis: The PC FDC truly won't handle Amiga floppies, it just won't be corerced into it
[05:39] <frojnd> Dr_willis: any cars for two ?
[05:39] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Is it still shrinkwrapped?
[05:39] <Minataku> If not, toss it
[05:39] <Minataku> XD
[05:39] <frojnd> Dr_willis: like need for speed: porsche ?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  a lot of the games are. some Geos software also. the Cartridiges are not however.
[05:40] <ubuntu> monkey island?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> also found about 200lb of amiga tech/programming books.
[05:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:40] <Minataku> Heh
[05:40] <Minataku> It's a constant battle between awesome stuff and prohibitive shipping costs XD
[05:41] <Dr_willis> which reminds of my lifelong  goal in learning C.. then realizing that I dont need to learn C to do what i need.
[05:41] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  the stuff aint going anywhere here.. other then into better sorted box's heh.
[05:41] <Dr_willis> I may drag out a C64 however. :) i can Multi-task the monitor  so it wont take up much space/
[05:42] <Minataku> Heehee
[05:42] <Dr_willis> I rember why i love the SmallFormFactor pc's but i never can actually USE one.
[05:43] <Minataku> If you're willing to send a C64 and parts, that's fine by me XD
[05:47] <marckie> hello!
[05:47] <marckie> a newbie here...
[05:47] <marckie> im using kubuntu!
[05:47] <marckie> !ntfs
[05:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:47] <marckie> !mount
[05:47] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:47] <Minataku> I think I'll go boot up Sasuke, see if I can't play around with the floppy ioctls
[05:47] <Tm_T> !botabuse
[05:47] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:47] <Tm_T> <3
[05:47] <Minataku> Two commands is hardly abuse :P
[05:47] <Tm_T> it's not
[05:47] <Dr_willis> !elvis
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about elvis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <Tm_T> but better to warn before it goes to that point
[05:47] <Dr_willis> well back to the Garrage...
[05:47] <Dr_willis> bbl
[05:47] <Minataku> !anything
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <Minataku> Mwahahaha
[05:47] <Tm_T> Minataku: krhm
[05:47] <Minataku> I just did that one, I have more important things to deal with
[05:47] <Tm_T> ;)
[05:47] <Minataku> Gonna boot up my Mac and see if I can't coerce it into writing Amiga floppies
[05:47] <Minataku> <3 A/UX
[05:47] <Tm_T> Minataku: have fun (:
[05:47] <soulrider> amiga floppies? =/
[05:47] <soulrider> isnt that like.. ancient ?
[05:47] <ubuntu> wow.....
[05:47] <Tm_T> soulrider: I am ancient
[05:47] <Tm_T> amiga isn't
[05:47] <ubuntu> :) no way
[05:47] <ubuntu> chick fila time....have fun with your mac!
[05:48] <Minataku> zzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
[05:48] <Tm_T> anything with floppies cant be ancient
[05:48] <Minataku> Man, that HDD is loud
[05:48] <Tm_T> Minataku: hug it
[05:48] <Tm_T> Minataku: talk nicely
[05:49] <Minataku> That won't help
[05:49] <Minataku> It'll still sound like a buzzsaw
[05:49] <Tm_T> you didn't do it from your heart
[05:49] <Minataku> :P
[05:49] <Tm_T> I might like to have some fooooood ->
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> i want to go through and find out what's making all the noise in my pc.  the 80mm case fans are probably a big part of it...  perhaps replacing the rear exhaust fan with a 120mm would help...
[05:50] <Minataku> I'll just let A/UX sit at the login screen for now
[05:51] <dennis___> hi everybody, i just installed ubuntu dapper, advised by a friend of mine, and got things working allright, but when using SKYPE i found out that my microphone doesn't work, but I can hear the people at the other end, solution????
[05:52] <marckie> change your microphone i guess...
[05:52] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[05:52] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:52] <marckie> wow!
[05:53] <marckie> !repositories
[05:53] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:54] <Minataku> dennis___: Try to convince your friend that he's gone deaf
[05:54] <Minataku> Or even better, crazy
[05:55] <Minataku> Next time you see him IRL, move your mouth like you're talking but say nothing
[05:55] <marckie> hahahaha... hilarious...
[05:55] <marckie> lol!
[05:55] <Minataku> Get a couple other friends to do it, not all of them, just one or two
[05:55] <Minataku> The rest talks to him as usual
[05:56] <marckie> !nvidia
[05:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:56] <Minataku> Even more better, switch off every couple days who talks and who doesn't
[05:56] <Minataku> If he doesn't think he's crazy, damnit, he will be
[05:56] <Minataku> XD
[05:57] <marckie> hahaha... nice one there mina
[05:57] <dennis___> sorry, thought i could get some help here but it's a playground obviously, bye
[05:57] <ardchoille> Tm_T: May I pm you?
[05:57] <marckie> anyhows, it might be possible that his mike really is busted...
[05:58] <Tm_T> ardchoille: why would you do that?
[05:58] <marckie> hey...
[05:59] <ardchoille> Tm_T: I thought you were an op here.
[05:59] <Minataku> Not my problem that someone can't take a joke
[05:59] <Tm_T> ardchoille: sure you can msg me, but if it's about administration of this channel, #ubuntu-ops is for that
[05:59] <ardchoille> Tm_T: Ah, ok
[06:00] <Minataku> marckie: I was gonna get to the fact that his mixer probably muted the mike
[06:00] <Minataku> If it's anything like my system, every time I reboot I have to reset the volume
[06:00] <Roey> hi all
[06:00] <Roey> is "ntfs" as it shows up in the output to 'mount'  ntfs-ng?
[06:00] <Roey> I'm running kubuntu 7.04
[06:01] <Minataku> Roey: I believe that's just what the fs is mounted as
[06:01] <Roey> also, is there a wya to install Kubuntu 7.04 without the splash screen?  It crashes KVM
[06:01] <Roey> Minataku:  well there are three drivers for NT though
[06:02] <marckie> minataku... well he did not get the joke...
[06:02] <Roey> Minataku:  the standard NTFS ones (which are basically read-only), the Captive drivers, and NTFS-ng
[06:02] <marckie> he's probably very frustrated...
[06:02] <Minataku> marckie: Obviously X3
[06:02] <marckie> been there...
[06:02] <Minataku> Over a microphone?
[06:02] <marckie> yeah...
[06:02] <Roey> it's a joke?
[06:02] <Minataku> Roey: No, no
[06:02] <marckie> some people are so naive...
[06:02] <Minataku> Talking about something else
[06:02] <Roey> ok
[06:02] <Roey> aye.
[06:02] <Bearcat> Folks, i will be working on someone else's computer tonight. They have no internet  access at the moment, so i'd like to ask for tips now.  I'm very familiar with linux, but not debian based distros themselves.  When i try to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 using the alternate CD it seems my /var/lib/dpgk/available file is incorrect. It has a problem with a status field. How can i regen that file?
[06:02] <marckie> sorry Roey, I was also talking to Minataku...
[06:02] <Minataku> Roey: I've never used any of them, TBH
[06:03] <Roey> Bearcat:  good luck with getting a straight answer :)
[06:03] <Minataku> So I can't help you
[06:03] <Roey> thanks anyway
[06:03] <marckie> by the way, im still new in using Kubuntu... (ubuntu that is)
[06:04] <Minataku> Roey: Hang around, though
[06:04] <marckie> I was used to using Suse... until they slept with the enemy... huhuhuhu...
[06:04] <Minataku> !ntfs-3g
[06:04] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:04] <Roey> Minataku:  oh, ok
[06:04] <Minataku> Maybe try that, too
[06:04] <Roey> thanks
[06:04] <Roey> that's what I was looking for
[06:04] <Roey> ntfs-3
[06:04] <Roey> *3g
[06:05] <marckie> Well, with my experience i still suggest using Fat32 for file sharing between dual booting systems..
[06:05] <Bearcat> Roey: that bad huh?
[06:05] <marckie> its safer... trust me...
[06:05] <Minataku> Roey: np
[06:05] <Minataku> NTFS is barely stable in Windows
[06:06] <Roey> Minataku:  but ntfs3g is different
[06:06] <Roey> aiui
[06:06] <Minataku> It's still not 100% safe
[06:06] <Roey> marckie:  "its safer...trust me..." <-- famous last words eh? :)
[06:06] <Minataku> Since I'm pretty much positive that MS sticks little traps into NTFS to nuke it if Windows isn't what's writing to it
[06:07] <Roey> Minataku:  ha ha ha
[06:07] <Minataku> Of course, MS steps on their own landmines as a result
[06:07] <Bearcat> Roey: i was doing an upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 and a few packages wouldn't upgrade. So i said, "let's try the 6.10 to 7.04".  The error i'm seeing is parse error near line 2 package 'python-libxml2" value for 'status' field not allowed in this context. The value in that status field is "install reintreq halt-installed"
[06:08] <Roey> Bearcat:  hmm.  (Have you tried #ubuntu for that matter, then?)
[06:08] <Bearcat> Roey: also there are odd chacters strwen through out the file, which look like binary info so i suspect a corruupted file.
[06:08] <Bearcat> Roey: nope. I suppose this isn
[06:08] <marckie> hey minataku... what videocard are you using?
[06:08] <Bearcat> Roey: isnt' kubuntu specific though.
[06:08] <Roey> Bearcat:  I think that #ubuntu holds more experts
[06:09] <marckie> Im using nvidia and im wondering how i can install its drivers...
[06:09] <Bearcat> Roey: thanks
[06:09] <ardchoille> !nvidia
[06:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:09] <marckie> i want to install beryl after that...
[06:09] <Bearcat> Roey: are you insinuating some thing about KDE users? :P
[06:09] <marckie> im lost with the: System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager.
[06:10] <Minataku> marckie: A Trident POC
[06:10] <Minataku> Piece Of Crap
[06:10] <Minataku> X3
[06:10] <marckie> hahahaha... Old school...
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> marckie: that's because those instructions are for ubuntu
[06:10] <Roey> Bearcat:  oh nonono not at all, gnome sucks/kde rocks
[06:10] <Roey> completely
[06:10] <marckie> Ahhh... I see...
[06:10] <Minataku> This laptop is from 2003
[06:10] <Bearcat> Roey: cool.
[06:10] <marckie> So where's it in Kubuntu?
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> marckie: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:10] <Roey> Bearcat:  I'm just saying I think #ubuntu, being the original channel, proabbly has more experts
[06:11] <Roey> Bearcat:  (between you and me and the rest of this IRC channel, I can't stand GNOME)
[06:11] <Bearcat> *nods*
[06:11] <Roey> or GTK for that matter.
[06:11] <marckie> no i dont think so... though im new...
[06:11] <Roey> Pity that I still use GAIM, GIMP, and X-Chat
[06:11] <marckie> is there a GUI in installing nvidia?
[06:11] <Bearcat> Roey: yeah. I just wish gtk wasn't the default for most stuff.
[06:11] <marckie> if that's possible in Ubuntu that is...
[06:12] <Roey> Bearcat:  ahh
[06:12] <Bearcat> marckie: it's called nvidia-settings
[06:12] <marckie> I think there could be the same in kubuntu...
[06:12] <ardchoille> marckie: I feel it would be a waste of a gui. Installing nvidia drivers took me two commands and restarting x and it was done.
[06:12] <Bearcat> Roey: it makes me wonder if there are more C programmers then C++ programmers.
[06:12] <marckie> yeah... I see...
[06:13] <marckie> Im campaigning Linux (Kubuntu to be specific) to my Window$ user friends...
[06:13] <Roey> Bearcat:  I dispensed with them both and moved to Python ;)
[06:13] <marckie> so im looking for the easiest way for them
[06:14] <Bearcat> Roey: pffft. Be a real hacker and write your stuff in COBOL
[06:14] <marckie> I think they would probably fear the Console... hehehe...
[06:14] <FSHero> This is odd... I had two samba shares mounted, and I couldn't unmount the first share I mounted until I unmounted the second one!
[06:14] <FSHero> Is that meant to happen?
[06:14] <Roey> Bearcat:  ha!!
[06:14] <Roey> Bearcat:  btw, I like your English.  Where are you?
[06:15] <Bearcat> Roey: Montana, USA
[06:15] <Roey> Bearcat:  oh, understood then
[06:16] <Roey> Bearcat:  I'm working in VA
[06:16] <Roey> Fairfax, VA, land of the Network Security Engineers
[06:16] <Roey> 27 here, how about you?
[06:16] <Bearcat> Roey: been there, i think.
[06:16] <visham> hi folks
[06:16] <Bearcat> Roey: 35
[06:16] <FSHero> And I think I'm about to answer my own question...
[06:17] <ardchoille> FSHero: We love it when people do that :)
[06:17] <Roey> Bearcat:  ah, ok. I thought I sensed maturity there..
[06:17] <FSHero> ... I had the first share mounted on /media/samba/FSHEROMED04 and the second share mounted on /media/samba/FSHEROMED04/SharedDocs
[06:17] <marckie> bye for now...
[06:17] <FSHero> ardchoille: I do that a lot in 'real'-life too! :P lmao
[06:17] <Roey> ciao
[06:18] <Roey> marckie:  bye
[06:18] <Bearcat> Roey: it's an act, i assure you. :)
[06:18] <FSHero> Thus, I can't unmount a directory if something else is mounted in one of the former's subdirectories. (... wordy...)
[06:21] <FSHero> This is also interesting... when I mount Samba shares, it creates a new folder: e.g. if I mount share "abc" into /media/samba/abc, it creates the "abc" folder.
[06:21] <FSHero> When I use Knoppix to mount USB disks from the command line, it complains that I didn't make the folder... lol
[06:22] <visham> i bought a ethernet card(Dlink 520TX) yesterday and installed (my os: kubuntu dapper) i use a  adsl connection. The connection speed is avg of 2Mbps in windows but in ubuntu it is < 1Mbps
[06:23] <visham> when i run nmap the connection breaks down
[06:23] <Roey> Bearcat:  :)
[06:24] <coreymon77> hi everyone
[06:25] <FSHero> Okay, a question: I followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:27] <FSHero> Is there a way of not using a .smbpassword file for credentials? I would like my file manager to ask me to type my username+password the first time I try to access a share.
[06:27] <FSHero> Hence, no one can start Knoppix on my computer and find out my password... ;)
[06:29] <visham> i bought a ethernet card(Dlink 520TX) yesterday and installed (my os: kubuntu dapper) i use a  adsl connection. The connection speed is avg of 2Mbps in windows but in ubuntu it is < 1Mbps
[06:29] <visham> when i run nmap the connection breaks down
[06:29] <visham> whats the problem?
[06:31] <coreymon77> visham: are you using the proper driver?
[06:31] <visham> dlink dfe 520TX (ethernet card) is autodetected
[06:31] <visham> but drivers are also provided which donot compile on my system
[06:31] <coreymon77> are you sure there are no obstructions
[06:32] <visham> obstructions?
[06:35] <Minataku> visham: Oh
[06:35] <coreymon77> visham: oh ya, its ethernet
[06:35] <Minataku> visham: Are you doing a UDP scan?
[06:35] <visham> no only syn scan with OS detection
[06:35] <Minataku> Hm
[06:35] <visham> right now i'm trying to disable the ipv6 support will that work?
[06:35] <Minataku> I know that I was (still am?) having an issue where if I did a UDP scan, at the end of the scan, nmap would segfault and the card would crash
[06:35] <coreymon77> visham: you said wont compile on your system, exactly what type of system do you mean?
[06:35] <Minataku> Mine is wireless, though
[06:35] <visham> kubunt dapper (6.06)
[06:35] <Minataku> Unrelated, I'm sure
[06:35] <visham> wired ethernet card
[06:35] <Minataku> visham: Simple solution... don't run nmap
[06:35] <Minataku> Something along the line doesn't like what it's doing
[06:35] <visham> i will die without nmap
[06:35] <visham> ;)
[06:35] <Minataku> Heh
[06:35] <Minataku> Something somewhere isn't happy with nmap
[06:35] <Minataku> Check your dmesg after it happens
[06:35] <Minataku> If someone's bitching, it'll be in there at the bottom
[06:35] <visham> forget nmap now
[06:35] <visham> connection speed is 2Mbps in WinXP but in ubuntu its < 1Mbps
[06:35] <marko_> !register
[06:35] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:36] <Minataku> visham: Windows is probably a dirty rotten liar
[06:36] <coreymon77> visham: i doubt you are actually getting those speeds
[06:36] <coreymon77> visham: windoze usually exaggerates
[06:37] <coreymon77> it tells me that i am getting speeds that are impossivle
[06:37] <visham> coreymon77: i can feel the difference while browsing and downloading
[06:37] <Minataku> Windows will say anything to make you feel better
[06:37] <Minataku> It has to... after all, you're using Windows
[06:37] <Minataku> If anything's gonna make you feel like ass, it's using Windows
[06:38] <visham> Minataku: any tips in general to increase the speed?
[06:39] <visham> Minataku: how about disabling ipv6
[06:39] <Minataku> visham: Stop believing that it's slower
[06:39] <Minataku> As for that, I've heard that disabling it can speed things up
[06:39] <coreymon77> visham: are you the only one using the internet?
[06:39] <coreymon77> visham: or is it shared?
[06:39] <Minataku> Some systems seem incapable of tolerating IPv6
[06:39] <visham> coreymon77: i'm the only one
[06:40] <Minataku> So give disabling IPv6 a try
[06:40] <coreymon77> visham: somehow im doubting that the speed is actually slower
[06:40] <Minataku> It's not like anything actually uses it yet
[06:40] <Daisuke_Ido> actually, i suppose i should be screaming at wine
[06:40] <Daisuke_Ido> for some reason, eac can't see my cdrom at all
[06:40] <visham> Minataku: any suggestion for the nmap problem
[06:40] <coreymon77> visham: is it possible that the slower speeds are just psychological because it says a different nu,mber
[06:40] <Minataku> visham: None
[06:40] <Minataku> Like I said, check dmesg
[06:41] <Minataku> If I had more info (if there's any to be had) then I might have a suggestion
[06:41] <visham> Minataku: thank you
[06:41] <Minataku> np
[06:41] <visham> more info?
[06:42] <visham> coreymon77: one more problem when i run nmap with syn scan the connection breaks down after some time during the scan
[06:43] <visham> ok folks thanks for the suggestions and help i'm going to reboot now
[06:50] <dazjorz> Hi
[06:50] <coreymon77> hi
[06:50] <dazjorz> I'm having problems with OpenOffice.org and #openoffice.org recommended I ask here
[06:50] <dazjorz> When I run OpenOffice.org, I get the "loading" screen, but it stays at zero
[06:50] <dazjorz> when I run 'soffice' at the console, nothing happens
[06:50] <dazjorz> the only thing I get is the X error of an invalid or uninitialised input device, which I always get in every program so that's not the problem
[06:51] <coreymon77> dazjorz: the unvalid device thing is normal
[06:51] <coreymon77> dazjorz: have you waited a little bit for it to open?
[06:53] <dazjorz> coreymon77: I have, I waited ten minutes for soffice and like five to ten minutes for OO.org itself
[06:53] <dazjorz> the first time I tried today, it would open after waiting half a minute or so
[06:53] <dazjorz> then after that it didn't do anything at all anymore
[06:53] <coreymon77> dazjorz: i think thats an open office problem
[06:54] <dazjorz> Yay, it works now, after a reboot
[06:57] <jzilla> how do i uninstall a program? kopete for example?
[06:57] <[NL] Jazz> apt-get remove kopete (i would do)
[06:57] <jzilla> thanks
[06:58] <coreymon77> jzilla: ya, use apt
[06:59] <[NL] Jazz> i've use synaptic, adept, but i keep hitting my F12 Button and apt my way around in yakuake
[07:00] <BluesKaj> installing windows on virtualbox
[07:03] <BluesKaj> shh ...genii , I let it slip :)
[07:03] <genii> BluesKaj Don't mind me, just popping in on my break (which is finished now actually)
[07:04] <BluesKaj> I don't mind at all genii ...nice to see you again :0
[07:04] <genii> :)
[07:04] <genii> Ok, boss around, going going...
[07:08] <usamahashimi> hello everyone!
[07:09] <usamahashimi> i am trying to install mplayer but the servers are giving error, is there any problem? can anyone also check it for me?
[07:10] <coreymon77> usamahashimi: what exactly is this error
[07:10] <coreymon77> usamahashimi: and are you using apt for it?
[07:10] <dwidmann> usamahashimi: umm, I had no problem fetching mplayer from the repositories about 12 hours ago
[07:11] <coreymon77> usamahashimi: can you be a little more specific about the error?
[07:11] <usamahashimi> lemme tell you the errors
[07:12] <usamahashimi> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.89.6). - connect (113 No route to host) [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] 
[07:12] <coreymon77> usamahashimi: thats a server error
[07:12] <usamahashimi> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[07:12] <dwidmann> odd, I thought that there was an update for it in feisty-security
[07:13] <usamahashimi> coreymon77: how can i now download
[07:13] <dwidmann> then again, you can't even connect to the server
[07:13] <coreymon77> usamahashimi: was this just now? did this happen just now?
[07:13] <dwidmann> I just pinged the server without a problem
[07:13] <soulrider> try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <coreymon77> usamahashimi: try it again
[07:13] <soulrider> maybe you can get them from there
[07:14] <JuJuBee> Is PAM broken in feisty?
[07:14] <usamahashimi> coreymon77: i tried but the same error, this time i replace mplayer with xmms
[07:14] <coreymon77> usamahashimi: somethings the matter with the repository
[07:14] <coreymon77> anyone else having repo problems?
[07:15] <JuJuBee> Nope.
[07:15] <Dr_willis> try differnt servers.
[07:15] <usamahashimi> coreymon77: i figured another thing that the browser is not opening any site
[07:16] <coreymon77> okay
[07:16] <coreymon77> you are having severe internet problems
[07:16] <coreymon77> what i dont get is
[07:16] <coreymon77> hwo are you talking to us?
[07:16] <Dr_willis> ive seen this happen befor. guy could irc. but not web surf.
[07:17] <usamahashimi> coreymon77: can you help me figuring out things?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> i wonder if the irc client had the ip#'s cached or somthing
[07:17] <coreymon77> usamahashimi: i could try
[07:17] <coreymon77> usamahashimi: you using wireless?
[07:17] <[NL] Jazz> does anyone have experience with fingerprint readers?
[07:17] <usamahashimi> coreymon77: no i am on dialup
[07:18] <coreymon77> oaky
[07:18] <dwidmann> JuJuBee: PAM = Pluggable Authentication Modules?
[07:18] <JuJuBee> Yes.
[07:18] <JuJuBee> Cant get NIS or LDAP to work properly.
[07:18] <usamahashimi> coreymon77: moreover, i can ping google
[07:18] <coreymon77> im not too sure, anybody here have a little more experience with dialup?
[07:18] <JuJuBee> Both see the accounts on the server, but cant authenticate
[07:19] <usamahashimi> coreymon77: ok, lemme scream for help :)
[07:19] <coreymon77> usamahashimi: asking will do just fine
[07:19] <dwidmann> dialup ... what a headache
[07:19] <neptunepink> I had no idea you could move around with vi keys in konqueror
[07:19] <[NL] Jazz> dwidmann: don't you like the modem-sound?:D
[07:19] <usamahashimi> Can anyone help me? I am on dialup and my browser and apt is not working but i can ping sites
[07:20] <[NL] Jazz> eehw.. dns?
[07:20] <dwidmann> [NL] Jazz: it was responsible for the loss of a portion of my sanity
[07:20] <[NL] Jazz> dwidmann: i get the point..:)
[07:20] <bonbonthejon> usamahashimi: tried tracepath?
[07:20] <usamahashimi> bonbonthejon: what is tracepath?
[07:21] <bonbonthejon> usamahashimi: you use it to see how information is getting to you across the internet, but that really wouldnt help here
[07:21] <bonbonthejon> usamahashimi: how did you ping, by ip or by name
[07:21] <dwidmann> [NL] Jazz: the slowness resulted in the loss of the rest ...
[07:21] <usamahashimi> bonbonthejon: by name
[07:21] <[NL] Jazz> dwidmann: out of sync:P
[07:22] <bonbonthejon> usamahashimi: can you ping the apt server
[07:22] <neptunepink> usamahashimi: try using firefox instead of konqueror or vice/versa
[07:22] <usamahashimi> bonbonthejon: can you tell me the address of aptserver?
[07:22] <dwidmann> usamahashimi: ping 91.189.89.6
[07:22] <bonbonthejon> usamahashimi: start with ubuntu.com
[07:22] <bonbonthejon> or that
[07:23] <usamahashimi> neptunepink: if i can install firefox, i should use it, apt is giving server errors
[07:23] <usamahashimi> ok lemme check
[07:23] <usamahashimi> yes i can ping i
[07:24] <bonbonthejon> usamahashimi: how about archive.ubuntu.com
[07:24] <usamahashimi> lemme check
[07:24] <bonbonthejon> usamahashimi: what have you changed recently? anything with sources.list
[07:24] <dwidmann> bonbonthejon: that is archive.ubuntu.com ;)
[07:25] <usamahashimi> bonbonthejon: no, i didnot changed the repos, but i am amazed that konqueror is also not opening sites
[07:25] <bonbonthejon> dwidmann: ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com could be different
[07:25] <primordium_> hello, im trying to install my radeon 9600 in kubunto 7.04, im using a wiki guide but the guide is for ubunto and i cant find "Proprietary Drivers for Devices (Restricted)" where can i find this??
[07:25] <bonbonthejon> usamahashimi: open konsole and try running lynx, its a text based web browser, see if you can open it in that
[07:26] <usamahashimi> bonbonthejon: lynx is not installed :(
[07:26] <neptunepink> usamahashimi: try links <url> or w3m <url>
[07:26] <bonbonthejon> usamahashimi: try links or w3c, I forget
[07:26] <MAMUTE>  8-)  8-)
[07:27] <MAMUTE> BOA TARDE ALGUEM DO BRASIL? :)
[07:27] <primordium_> eu sou de portugal
[07:27] <coreymon77> english!
[07:28] <coreymon77> this is the english channel
[07:28] <MAMUTE> ALGUEM AQUI AFIM DE FAZER AMIZADE COM UM BRASILEIRO ;)
[07:28] <usamahashimi> bonbonthejon: no, w3m is not opening (Google i tried)
[07:28] <primordium_> hello, im trying to install my radeon 9600 in kubunto 7.04, im using a wiki guide but the guide is for ubunto and i cant find "Proprietary Drivers for Devices (Restricted)" where can i find this?? Thanks
[07:28] <coreymon77> !br | MAMUTE
[07:28] <ubotu> MAMUTE: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[07:29] <coreymon77> and no yelling
[07:29] <payam> Sombady has bann me on Offtopi-kubuntu
[07:29] <payam> Can someone let me chatt there?
[07:29] <usamahashimi> bonbonthejon:   Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.89.6). - connect (113 No route to host) [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] 
[07:29] <usamahashimi> bonbonthejon: apt is giving this error
[07:29] <MAMUTE> NO SEI COMO SOU NOVO COM ISSO?
[07:29] <bonbonthejon> usamahashimi: weird. try running "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" or "sudo dhclient eth0"
[07:30] <coreymon77> okay
[07:30] <coreymon77> seriously
[07:30] <[NL] Jazz> usamahashimi: maybe your routing table is corrupt
[07:30] <coreymon77> does someone know the language that mamute is speaking?
[07:31] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz, bonobonthejon: /etc/init.d/networking started but with a lot of errors
[07:31] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz: can you help me also
[07:31] <JuJuBee> Portugise (sp? sorry)
[07:32] <coreymon77> whoever knows the language, tell him to go to the proper channel and stop yelling
[07:32] <JuJuBee> !Portuguese
[07:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[07:32] <primordium_> I know
[07:32] <primordium_> do you want me to talk with him ??
[07:32] <coreymon77> primordium_: yes
[07:33] <coreymon77> primordium_: tell him to go to the proper channel and stop yelling
[07:33] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz: can you guide me about routing table?
[07:33] <JuJuBee> anybody good with ldap?
[07:33] <primordium_> he leaved
[07:34] <[NL] Jazz> usamahashimi: type "route" (without quotes) in a terminal and paste the output
[07:34] <usamahashimi> 137.101.128.50  *               255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp0
[07:34] <usamahashimi> and tthe other output is
[07:35] <usamahashimi> default         *               0.0.0.0         U     0      0        0 ppp0
[07:35] <usamahashimi> both these are under heading;
[07:35] <usamahashimi> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[07:35] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz:
[07:35] <[NL] Jazz> hmm, seems okay
[07:36] <payam> I need a download manager for my linux
[07:36] <[NL] Jazz> do you know your nameserver's adress?
[07:36] <JuJuBee> [NL] Jazz : ? /32 mask?
[07:36] <thev> Hi.  Why are Firefox and Gimp so ugly in KDE?  They don't theme with everything else
[07:36] <[NL] Jazz> yeah, ppp
[07:36] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz: i am amazed that i can ping the servers but why i can not open the addresses in konqueror and why apt is not installing things
[07:37] <coreymon77> thev: you can make firefox theme with kde
[07:37] <JuJuBee> Ah, never saw that (never used ppp either)
[07:37] <coreymon77> thev: and the gimp, well, it is a gnome program
[07:37] <thev> corey - ah... how?
[07:37] <[NL] Jazz> usamahashimi: you can ping every IP?
[07:37] <coreymon77> thev: firefox themes, go to the firefox addons site
[07:37] <coreymon77> thev: i use noia
[07:37] <zipper> After installing (k)ubuntu, i've been unable to boot up my windows xp installation cd. I've tested the cd in another comp where it works fine. Seems like grub is started before the cd can boot. What to do?
[07:38] <dwidmann> umm, lets see, you definitely need to have gtk2-engines-gtk-qt installed or they'll be downright hideous
[07:38] <thev> ah, so it doesn't actually use the KDE theme
[07:38] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz: all the ips which i tried, i can ping them, google, ubuntu, archives,ubuntu etc
[07:38] <thev> cheap
[07:38] <coreymon77> thev: i believe there is a kde theme for it
[07:38] <coreymon77> thev: look on the site
[07:38] <coreymon77> zipper: easy
[07:38] <coreymon77> usamahashimi: for one thing, why would you want to use your xp cd?
[07:38] <coreymon77> usamahashimi: whoops, sorry
[07:39] <coreymon77> usamahashimi: wrong person
[07:39] <usamahashimi> coreymon77: :)
[07:39] <coreymon77> zipper: for one thing, why would you want to use your xp cd?
[07:39] <[NL] Jazz> usamahashimi: go edit your /etc/resolv.conf as root (in gnome terminal sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf) and put this on top of that file: nameserver 208.67.222.222
[07:39] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz: ok, lemme check
[07:39] <zipper> coreymon77, so i can play the overlord demo =/
[07:39] <magicbronson> none of the GTK apps i run in kde are keyboard focusable. (e.g. can't hit tab to move around the gui.) anyone else have this problem?
[07:39] <zipper> coreymon77, wine does not support the version of securom that it uses
[07:40] <coreymon77> zipper: oh, oaky, well then
[07:40] <[NL] Jazz> usamahashimi: in case you wonder what that IP is, it's a opendns.org nameserver
[07:40] <coreymon77> zipper: what computer are you using, what company made it?
[07:40] <zipper> coreymon77, zipper supreme ruler of the world Inc.
[07:40] <coreymon77> zipper: no, seriously
[07:40] <zipper> coreymon77, (made it from pieces)
[07:41] <zipper> which i ordered individually
[07:41] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz: i put it,
[07:41] <[NL] Jazz> yeah?
[07:41] <[NL] Jazz> okay save it usamahashimi
[07:41] <coreymon77> zipper: what about the bios?
[07:41] <coreymon77> zipper: who made that
[07:41] <zipper> asus p5ld2 motherboard... i think it's an Award bios
[07:41] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz: yes, i already saved it
[07:41] <[NL] Jazz> and now try to ping archive.ubuntu.com
[07:41] <zipper> and yes, i believe my boot priority is correctly setup
[07:41] <zipper> but let me just double-check that
[07:41] <thev> I have weird issue with panels - on my other machine I can add a new panel, then go into the configure panel dialogue and reposition it, etc.  On this one I can only change the original panel...
[07:42] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz: yes, i can ping it
[07:42] <thev> So if I add a new panel all I can get is a giant one at the bottom with nothing on it
[07:42] <coreymon77> zipper: that cant be it
[07:42] <zipper> coreymon77, ?
[07:42] <coreymon77> zipper: it cant be setup properly
[07:42] <zipper> okay
[07:42] <coreymon77> zipper: or else it would work
[07:42] <zipper> brb then
[07:42] <coreymon77> zipper: check it
[07:42] <zipper> =)
[07:43] <[NL] Jazz> usamahashimi: try to apt-get something then:)
[07:43] <ciga> hello
[07:43] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz: but apt and browsers are still giving error
[07:43] <[NL] Jazz> HUH
[07:43] <[NL] Jazz> are you running knetworkmanager?
[07:43] <[NL] Jazz> or NetworkManager?
[07:44] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz: i think, its not running
[07:44] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz: i disabled my LAN card
[07:44] <[NL] Jazz> knetworkmanager could be set to offline mode
[07:44] <[NL] Jazz> yeah but ppp0 is also a interface witch it can control, i think
[07:44] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz: i restarted my PC and everything happened
[07:45] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz: lemme check the bash history and tell you that what i enabled and disabled
[07:45] <[NL] Jazz> haha ok
[07:46] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz: i disabled avahi-demon and ....
[07:46] <ciga> I reinstalled my box on a new partition. I want to have my cookies and my kmail accounts back. I copied apps/kcookiejar and apps/kwallet from the old system, but my pop3 account still needs a password, and konqueror does not seem to find the cookies. What more should I copy?
[07:46] <Minataku> You have to copy more than just the binaries
[07:46] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz: and nothing else
[07:46] <[NL] Jazz> have you done a /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[07:46] <Minataku> You have to copy their configuration files as well
[07:47] <ciga> Minataku: was that for me?
[07:47] <Minataku> ciga: Yes
[07:47] <ciga> Minataku: I talked about conf files.
[07:47] <ciga> Minataku: I used apt-get to install the packages, of course.
[07:47] <Minataku> Ah
[07:47] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz: i am thinking to reboot my pc, are you here, so i can come back to tell you the after reboot results?
[07:49] <[NL] Jazz> usamahashimi: sorry, i have to go now, but i'm sure there's someone else willing to help you
[07:49] <coreymon77> magicbronson: is that a package?
[07:49] <usamahashimi> [NL] Jazz: ok thanks by the way
[07:49] <[NL] Jazz> be smart, write down the IP of the current irc server
[07:50] <magicbronson> coreymon77: no
[07:50] <coreymon77> magicbronson: cause if so, just apt it
[07:50] <[NL] Jazz> i'm leaving
[07:50] <[NL] Jazz> ciao!!
[07:50] <jhutchins_lt> magicbronson: Should be part of the apache install.
[07:50] <ciga> anyone can give me a hand with my questions, please?
[07:51] <magicbronson> jhutchins_lt: that explains it, thanks
[07:52] <coreymon77> ciga: what?
[07:52] <Bearcat> hey Roey, i found an answer, i think
[07:53] <Bearcat> Roey: a "dpgk --clear-avail" + apt-get update might fix it.
[07:54] <ciga> coreymon77: I reinstalled. my cookies are gone. I want them back. I copied .kde/share/apps/kcookiejar, but konqueror does not seem to find them. What should I do?
[07:54] <ciga> coreymon77: copied from backup.
[07:54] <coreymon77> ciga: ive noticed myself that that doesnt seem to work
[07:54] <coreymon77> ciga: could you jsut get them back manually
[07:54] <coreymon77> ?
[07:56] <ciga> coreymon77: would be better to have everything back. Selecting would give me head-acks later.
[07:56] <ciga> coreymon77: and this is the same for kmail and my pop3 passwd.
[07:56] <ciga> coreymon77: everything works, except those 2.
[07:56] <coreymon77> ciga: well kmail and pop3 pwrod should be easy to get back manually, shouldnt it?
[07:57] <ciga> and I have now 3.5.7 instead of 3.5.6
[07:57] <Roey> Bearcat:  ahh
[07:57] <Roey> ok
[07:57] <Roey> Bearcat:  what is --clear-avail for ?
[07:57] <ciga> coreymon77: I don't know by heart. :] 
[07:58] <Bearcat> Roey: it removes sets up the system to regen the /var/lib/dpkg/availble file, which appears to be corrupted on my friends computer.
[07:58] <Bearcat> Roey: simply deleting the file and doing a ap-get update does not do it.
[07:59] <ciga> arg
[07:59] <Roey> Bearcat:  I'm surprised you didn't say --purge
[07:59] <coreymon77> ciga: sorry, i dont knwo
[08:00] <Roey> apt-get --purge remove
[08:00] <Bearcat> Roey: what does that do?
[08:00] <Bearcat> Roey: (i;m not normally a debian user)
[08:00] <Roey> Bearcat:  it removes anything installed into /etc and /var etc.
[08:01] <Roey> *also removes
[08:01] <Bearcat> Roey: what does it remove? the files that apt-get uses?
[08:02] <Roey> nono
[08:02] <Roey> it removes /all/ the files that the package installe
[08:02] <Roey> d
[08:02] <Roey> i.e. it does not just clear out /usr/lib and /usr/bin
[08:02] <Roey> it also goes to /var and /etc and all that
[08:17] <JuJuBee> How do I test to see if PAM is configured properly?
[08:19] <user_> hey all, is this a good place to ask beryl theme questions?
[08:21] <user_> I just got a nice brushed metal mac style theme
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> ok back
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> stupid sisters
[08:22] <Roey> ActionParsnip:  that's a great nick
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> plus changed alias
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> Roey: Its a harry hill joke
[08:22] <Roey> ah :)
[08:22] <Roey> I mean, I had parsnips in my fridge only a week ago
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> Roey: Dad was too mean to buy him an action man
[08:22] <Roey> they're not carrots, I found out
[08:22] <Roey> ah
[08:23] <usamahashimi> hello everyone!
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> Roey: ANd what clothes does actionParsnip wear?
[08:23] <Roey> er
[08:23] <usamahashimi> can anyone help me? i am unable to browse any site?
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> Roey: The wrappers from cornettos
[08:23] <Roey> leves?
[08:23] <Roey> oh :)
[08:23] <Roey> haha
[08:23] <Roey> ActionParsnip:  I thought they were overgrown carrots, but they're a little different
[08:23] <Roey> much more..fibrous
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Roey: they are nice if you dice carrots with parsnips together
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Roey: or roast with honey
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Roey: Do you use Beryl etc?
[08:25] <Roey> ActionParsnip:  I tried it but the thing slowed my system to a crawl
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> Roey: Whats you rig?
[08:25] <Roey> well before it was this inspiron something
[08:25] <Roey> with a shiny PIII processor
[08:25] <Roey> or early P4
[08:25] <Roey> point is, now I've got a core2duo cpu
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> what ram / gfx
[08:26] <Roey> and 2 gigs ram
[08:26] <usamahashimi> hello everyone!
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> tasty
[08:26] <Roey> and intel integrated graphics
[08:26] <usamahashimi> can anyone help me? i am unable to browse any site?
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Roey: I'm on AM2 3000 Semp 1Gb DDR2, Nvidia onboard
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: can you ping sites
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Roey: Runs ace
[08:27] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: yes i can
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: do you use a proxy?
[08:27] <Ze-M> i have changed the monitor and lost i lost X, how can i recover it?
[08:27] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: no, also i am on dialup
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: check your web browser settings, you shouldnt have proxies put in if you are on dialup
[08:31] <Ze-M> i have changed the monitor and lost i lost X, how can i recover it?
[08:31] <Ze-M> hello?
[08:31] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: i did, they are correct, i also tried to install mplayer but apt is giving error (server error)
[08:31] <Ze-M> fucking great
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Ze-M: if you boot to single user and rename your xorg.cong it should be recreated
[08:31] <Roey> usamahashimi:  what a nickname you have :)
[08:31] <Roey> usamahashimi:  are you jordanian?
[08:31] <usamahashimi> Roey: no, indian
[08:31] <Roey> oh, ok
[08:31] <Roey> usamahashimi:  I thought Jordanian because the king of Jordan is Hashemite
[08:31] <imau> oismar@hotmail.com
[08:32] <Tm_T> imau: hm?
[08:32] <Tm_T> that's what I thought
[08:37] <Ze-M> i have installed kubuntu ppc but during live cd install i wasnt asked about a root password, now i cant enter as root, how can this be possible?
[08:39] <dragonfly7> How do I adjust the volume from a terminal window?
[08:39] <DJServers> Ze-M: did you enter a password for your own account?
[08:40] <PhinnFort> dragonfly7: try alsamixer
[08:40] <DJServers> Ze-M: if you have enert a password for youw own user normaly thats auto the password for root
[08:40] <dragonfly7> PhinnFort: Thank you. Perfect.
[08:40] <PhinnFort> np
[08:43] <arkygeek> hi.  my mate has just had a power bump and now everything has gone to hell.  when he tries to log in, it says: checking files systems .. /dev/sda2 contains a filesystem with errors. check forced...  it ended up in a limited shell, and he typed reboot.  it went to the login screen for X but then complained about missing kde config files or something...
[08:44] <DexterF> hello. can't make Opera run java, followed hints on !java. so - what else? jre6 is installed
[08:44] <carutsu> is there a way to change FTP's options in Konqueror?
[08:44] <arkygeek> it is now, upon another subseqent reboot, doing the check again...
[08:44] <Tm_T> carutsu: what you mean?
[08:44] <mattsqz> arkygeek: what do you mean by powerbump
[08:44] <arkygeek> the power went off mattsqz
[08:44] <carutsu> Tm_T: say Use STAT instead of LIST
[08:45] <arkygeek> he had a lot of windows open at the time mattsqz
[08:45] <carutsu> Tm_T: my host uses STAT
[08:45] <Tm_T> stat?
[08:45] <Tm_T> list?
[08:45] <mattsqz> i see
[08:45] <iarwain_> anyone know why my /dev/sdb is not able to be formated via qtparted? it complains about being mounted, but it's not..
[08:45] <Tm_T> carutsu: apparently I have no idea about ftp protocol so I go cooking more food ;) ->
[08:45] <carutsu> Tm_T: XDD
[08:45] <mattsqz> thats unusual, i lost power during a storm 3 times day before yesterday and im not experiencing anything similar
[08:46] <mattsqz> i mean..it complains about filesystem, but no data loss.
[08:46] <arkygeek> yeah ive never had probs like that b4 either...
[08:46] <mattsqz> only thing i can think of is im using pata and hes using sata
[08:46] <mattsqz> but that shouldnt effect it so much you would think
[08:46] <arkygeek> mattsqz: it said manual repair was needed from that limited shell... but he rebooted
[08:47] <mattsqz> well maybe he should go back to the console and fsck
[08:48] <Minataku> I usually always fsck if my external HDD loses power
[08:48] <Ryiel> Guys, anyone betatesting Gutsy Gibbon?
[08:48] <Ryiel> or prealphatesting :D
[08:49] <Minataku> Even if I used Kubuntu in the first place, I couldn't use something named "Gutsy Gibbon"
[08:49] <Ryiel> kde or gnome?
[08:49] <xerosis> Ryiel: kde of course :p
[08:49] <luca> sorry
[08:49] <luca> i need
[08:49] <luca> a help
[08:49] <Minataku> !enter
[08:49] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:50] <Ryiel> xerosis: did you try kaffeine? Does playback works for you?
[08:50] <luca> someone here is italian?
[08:50] <Minataku> !it | luca
[08:50] <ubotu> luca: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:50] <arkygeek> ok.  it says now that fsck died with exit status 4.  FAIL  filesystem check failed  please repair manually a maintenance shell will now be started.  what now.... fsck <enter> ?
[08:50] <julien> No, I'm french
[08:50] <julien> arkygeek
[08:51] <xerosis> Ryiel: works for me
[08:51] <Ryiel> I tried to watch satellite tv but screen was shaking like hell.
[08:51] <Minataku> arkygeek: Try it
[08:51] <Minataku> If that fails... you're in deep sh*t
[08:51] <julien> You've got this message when you boot your computer ?
[08:51] <Ryiel> Dont you happenet to have dvb card, right? :D
[08:51] <xerosis> Ryiel: 'fraid not
[08:51] <arkygeek> julien: yes
[08:51] <xerosis> Ryiel: though if you sent me one i'd test it for you :D
[08:52] <julien> Ok, and you want to know what to do ?
[08:52] <Minataku> arkygeek: fsck doesn't like errors when run noninteractively
[08:52] <Ryiel> Thanks dude :D
[08:52] <arkygeek> julien: yes
[08:52] <Minataku> arkygeek: You'll have to type fsck <device in question> and hit enter
[08:52] <DexterF> !java
[08:52] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[08:52] <julien> Ok, so when it tells you that "you have to do it manually", you've got a prompt when you must enter your root password
[08:52] <Ryiel> I hope somebody else is gonna try kaffeine with dvb cards. It works fine with feisty
[08:52] <Minataku> If, for example, /dev/sda3 is what fsck choked on, you have to type "fsck /dev/sda3"
[08:53] <julien> *where* sorry, not 'when'
[08:53] <Ryiel> Though it's only a pre alpha snapshot it's pretty stable
[08:53] <julien> Are you ok arkygeek ?
[08:53] <arkygeek> julien: going to start now with fsck /dev/sda2   (right?)
[08:54] <Minataku> arkygeek: Yes
[08:54] <julien> yes
[08:54] <Minataku> If that's the device with the filesystem that it choked on
[08:54] <julien> And it will repair it (we hope)
[08:54] <Minataku> You'll see some scary lookin' sh*t
[08:54] <Minataku> More than likely
[08:54] <Minataku> lol
[08:55] <Ryiel> xerosis: So movie playback works fine, huh?
[08:58] <xerosis> Ryiel: looks like it to me
[08:59] <Ryiel> Hmm. Damned dvb :P
[08:59] <julien> Please, have you ever compiled the soft called jackd ? My problem is that I downloaded the last source, configured, maked and make installed. This worked fine. The soft runs ok. But when I try to start it, it tells me "jackd: unknown driver 'alsa'". But I can play sound with other softs like Kaffeine or VLC! Don't you think that I need to create a symbolic link somewhere or something like that ?
[08:59] <julien> I'm on Feisty Fawn
[08:59] <julien> Kubuntu
[08:59] <shannon> How fast is wireless G, in practice?
[09:06] <Soth> shannon: under ideal conditions about 20Mbit... give or take
[09:09] <shannon> Soth: I'm getting about 720 kB/s, which I think is about 6-7 Mbps. My CPU is running at 100% every time I transfer a file too..
[09:10] <Soth> well the 20Mbit figure would be assuming 100% signal strength
[09:11] <Young_Druid> can anyone suggest why my vpn connection always disonnect in 0.9 minutes?  i use pptpclient and static ip
[09:12] <sebastian_> hi guys
[09:12] <sebastian_> i have trouble with my kubuntu and my wlan
[09:13] <fdoving> Young_Druid: lcp-echo-failure?
[09:15] <sebastian_> i have a DELL Insprion 6400, intel ipw4945 but KNetworkManager don't work
[09:15] <Jabapyth> how do you search in konquerer?
[09:15] <n8k99> Jabapyth: type "gg: search term" in the address bar
[09:16] <Jabapyth> not google: search for files
[09:16] <Young_Druid> fdoving: there is no errors.
[09:16] <fdoving> Young_Druid: ok, then i don't know.
[09:16] <Young_Druid> fdoving: it send many packets. may be it is "ip loop" problem. but i don't know how to rout.
[09:23] <ml_> hallo
[09:23] <ml_> hi
[09:25] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm looking to grep the contents of a directory. actually in the files in the multiple directories..
[09:26] <arkygeek> julien: ok, went through all that, and now when he logs into his kde session it says: could not start kstartupconfig check your installation  only option is ok wheich takes him bcak to login
[09:26] <arkygeek> julien: any ideas?
[09:27] <frojnd> what's up with java
[09:28] <frojnd> I have gotten installed java6
[09:28] <frojnd> and it worked untill now..
[09:28] <arkygeek> Minataku: how about you man?  this friend of mine is njt88 btw... he says hi
[09:28] <frojnd> all the sudden appliacations that needs java are reporting that I don't have java, even though i am deadly sure it's there..
[09:28] <frojnd> can someone help me with that?
[09:29] <BluesKaj> arkygeek, sudo apt-get install kubunru-desktop
[09:29] <BluesKaj> err kubuntu-desktop
[09:29] <Minataku> Ah
[09:29] <arkygeek> BluesKaj: cool thx
[09:30] <BluesKaj> did you just upgrade LDE , frojnd ?
[09:30] <BluesKaj> KDE
[09:30] <frojnd> Blueskaj: yes
[09:30] <frojnd> There is new kernel
[09:30] <inlviv3> Where can I find localhost-config-file&
[09:30] <inlviv3> ?
[09:30] <BluesKaj> after upgrading to KDE 3.5.7 , I had to reinstall java
[09:31] <frojnd> and if sux i will go to previous
[09:31] <arkygeek> BluesKaj: it says it is already the newest version - should he --reinstall?
[09:31] <BluesKaj> yes
[09:31] <inlviv3> My English very bed/
[09:32] <KR-data> anyone with a good guide on how to sync my phone with Linux?
[09:32] <BluesKaj> !ukr
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ukr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <BluesKaj> !uk
[09:32] <ubotu> Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk
[09:33] <BluesKaj> !ukraine
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ukraine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <fdoving> BluesKaj: .ua
[09:34] <BluesKaj> right fdoving , just found it
[09:34] <arkygeek> BluesKaj: he has stupid wireless - how can he reinstall without a net connection - is the package on the hdd?
[09:35] <BluesKaj> !ua | inlviv3
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ua - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <BlueDevil> i'm using feisty (been using dapper until today) and in synaptic i'm missing the icons in the first two columns in the package lists
[09:35] <BlueDevil> any idea what can i do to correct it?
[09:35] <BluesKaj> yes
[09:35] <BluesKaj> arkygeek yes
[09:35] <BluesKaj> live cd actually
[09:38] <qoala> hi
[09:38] <qoala> the alternate installation says that is able to install LVM
[09:38] <qoala> why can't the LiveCD?
[09:38] <qoala> if it has Gparted?
[09:38] <qoala> Gparted does that
[09:39] <BluesKaj> BlueDevil, in the run command : kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list , then remove the # from the beginning of any deb addresses
[09:39] <qoala> could I lay out the partitionining and the install through the LiveCD?
[09:39] <arkygeek> BluesKaj: he doesnt have the livecd with him!  urff
[09:39] <arkygeek> BluesKaj: need heelp with iwconfig to associate and givce the wep key
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> lo all
[09:40] <BluesKaj> not much to be done witout an internet connection and live cd , arkygeek
[09:40] <rowenthedark> Hello again. My web address bar is missing from konq. Where did it go and how do I get it back.
[09:41] <BluesKaj> !wireless | arkygeek
[09:41] <ubotu> arkygeek: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: settings -> toolbar
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: then choose location
[09:42] <qoala> anyone knoledgeable about LVM?
[09:42] <BlueDevil> BluesKaj: i have all the repos enabled
[09:42] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: I should explain I have a konq window but nothing else in it.
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: hmm
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: gimme a sec
[09:43] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: k thanks.
[09:44] <qoala> LVM anyohne>
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: try CTRL + L
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: any good?
[09:45] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: nothing.
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: bah
[09:45] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: could i delete like .konqeror or something and have it reset?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> dont delete, just rename
[09:45] <qoala> hi I have a question
[09:46] <BluesKaj> rowenthedark, in konq/ settings/toolbars/location toolbar
[09:46] <qoala> I've got a Geforce but the mobo has Intel Extreme
[09:46] <qoala> how can I make Kubuntu use the Geforce>
[09:46] <qoala> ?
[09:46] <qoala> instead??
[09:46] <qoala> lspci reports it
[09:46] <qoala> fine
[09:47] <BlueDevil> qoala: what do you need with LVM?
[09:47] <mc__> qoala: you have to set that in your bios
[09:47] <jhutchins_lt> !enter | qoala
[09:47] <ubotu> qoala: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:47] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: okay menubar was hidden all good.
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: all 100% now?
[09:48] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: All fine now for Konq. Thanks.
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: sweet as man :)
[09:48] <qoala> mc__, ha for real?
[09:48] <pointwood> what do people recommend to use to record audio from the mic in on my laptop?
[09:48] <mc__> qoala: yes
[09:48] <rowenthedark> Second question: Why is it that Beryl and certain themes dont work well together?
[09:48] <qoala> mc__, can't Xorg do it?
[09:49] <mc__> qoala: i dont think so
[09:49] <BlueDevil> qoala: is the graphic card configured in xorg.conf?
[09:49] <qoala> mc__, that doesn't make a lot of sense, i thought Linux was supposed to be able to handle two vid cards
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: i have no idea, i had a fun time getting bagira to work with it
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> its all good now
[09:49] <rowenthedark> More info: I have Beryl and Superkaramba working together, but the baghira theme doesn't like one of them. Crashed my x-server and everything.
[09:50] <qoala> mc__, no, nothing is configured, this is a brand new installation, GEFORCE 5200
[09:50] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: I think the crash might have messed up konq too.
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: very possible
[09:50] <jcmcgeekster> Hello
[09:50] <jcmcgeekster> :)
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: once its all sweet you can sit back and admire your work
[09:51] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: I am admiring it now, just have a few more things to fix.
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: I use kooldock
[09:51] <mc__> qoala: my hardware setup is simliar to yours...and i configured the BIOS to use the PCIE GPU instead of the onboard one...
[09:52] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: Is there another way to get weather, sysmon and things like that other than superkaramba?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: not something i've looked into, sorry. try searching for superkaramba alternative
[09:53] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: Okay. Was worth asking.
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: absolutely man, if you dont ask you'll never know
[09:53] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: Question about vlc? Is it as good as it seems would you know?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> i use kaffeine, not really plaed with vlc
[09:54] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: It's cool.
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: i dont really push my system, just browse n chat, hence linux
[09:55] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: I wanted to play D2 under wine, but it doesn't play nice with Beryl either. :(
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: no ned for windows for me, i do have a virtualbox cos my CCNA course only runs on windows and i cant get it to run on linux
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: tried Cedega
[09:56] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: One day there will be linux support for everything.
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: I think theres a Loki installer for it
[09:56] <BlueDevil> qoala: X can use multiple cards
[09:56] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: Can't install. Missing xlibs.
[09:56] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: What is a Loki installer?
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> http://www.liflg.org/
[09:58] <rowenthedark> Thank you.
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: no worries man
[09:58] <qoala> BlueDevil, thanks
[09:59] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: no such thing.
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: bah
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> get cedega binaries for 5 USSSSSSSSSD
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> should be ok
[09:59] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: its supposed to install under wine, but something is weird. oh well.
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: trygoogling for your rrors
[10:00] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: Like I said no xlibs so it wont install.
[10:01] <qoala> jhutchins,  I write the *bleep* way I wanna write. Don't patronize me smartass. [15:47]  <jhutchins_lt> !enter | qoala
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/misc/78026-cedega-running-diablo-ii-expansion.html
[10:01] <Minataku> qoala: You respect the channel rules, policies and officials, or you get the hell out
[10:01] <Minataku> No exceptions.
[10:02] <qoala> Minataku, I think is quite hard to police grammar, everyone got their own style
[10:02] <Minataku> qoala: That's no reason to insult someone for attempting to inform you of channel policies
[10:03] <Minataku> Hitting enter excessively spams the channel
[10:03] <Minataku> It's far better to keep one sentence or thought on a single line rather than splitting it across two or more
[10:03] <qoala> Minataku, in all my time in irc and all channels I've visited this is the first time I hear this
[10:04] <Minataku> We know you're there, and we'll listen to you, no matter how long it takes you to type a single line
[10:04] <qoala> enter is the nature, ethos and style of irc
[10:04] <fdoving> Theres a first time for everything
[10:04] <qoala> otherwise I'll go to the forums and write a goddamm paragraph over there
[10:04] <qoala> or essay
[10:04] <Minataku> qoala: You're more than welcome to
[10:04] <Minataku> Considering the following:
[10:04] <Minataku> !language | qoala
[10:04] <ubotu> qoala: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:04] <Minataku> Which is another rule you are expected to abide by
[10:05] <BlueDevil> cool it or i'll leave :D
[10:05] <qoala> ok got it
[10:05] <Minataku> If you do not wish to follow the set rules and regulations, you can go elsewhere
[10:05] <qoala> now can I flash BIOS with a CD?
[10:05] <BlueDevil> qoala: why do you want to flash with CD?
[10:05] <Minataku> qoala: Most BIOS flashers fit on a floppy, though I'm guessing your computer maker was too short-sighted to put one in
[10:06] <qoala> BlueDevil, 'cause I don't have a floppy drive
[10:06] <qoala> nor floppy USB
[10:06] <Minataku> Theoretically you could make an empty El Torito ISO with a BIOS Flasher floppy image as the booter
[10:06] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: apparently cedaga is a lot of work to get to work with fiesty. :(
[10:06] <BlueDevil> qoala: on recent mobos you can flash from a USB flash
[10:06] <Minataku> Which should boot from the CD to the floppy image
[10:06] <waylandbill> Minataku: some can be run in windows or booted from a CD. It's rare to see any laptops with floppies anymoree
[10:06] <Minataku> Or that
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> qoala: if you have an ultimtat boot cd
[10:06] <fdoving> qoala: i guess this guide will work for you too, http://www.biosflash.com/e/bios-boot-cd.htm - use the linux programs instead of the windows ones.
[10:06] <Minataku> waylandbill: I know, Piyoko lacks one and I hate it
[10:06] <qoala> El Torito ISO do use the Floppy exe or the m$$ exe?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> qoala: you can boot to dos and run the app
[10:07] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: Guess I use windows for now.
[10:07] <Minataku> qoala: You need the floppy image, or you can use the other suggestions
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: I installed it from deb
[10:07] <Minataku> qoala: The floppy EXE probably writes a floppy image, though I'd check out fdoving's link before I started trying to rip the floppy image out of the EXE
[10:08] <waylandbill> Minataku: I can't actually remember the last time I actually needed a floppy. It's been a while.
[10:08] <Minataku> waylandbill: I just used one literally 2 minutes ago
[10:08] <waylandbill> :)
[10:08] <Minataku> I'm a computer collector
[10:08] <Minataku> Floppies are insanely invaluable to me
[10:08] <waylandbill> last time I tried, the diskette was no good.
[10:08] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: hmmmm
[10:09] <qoala> oh man
[10:09] <qoala> I know, I'll install XP first, update the BIOS then install Linux
[10:09] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: might be something on my end.
[10:09] <Minataku> Some of my computers have nothing but a FDD and an HDD
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> qoala: get the ultimate boot cd, or borrow a floppy
[10:09] <Minataku> Makes using CDs incredibly difficult
[10:09] <waylandbill> qoala: your current bios has issues?
[10:09] <fdoving> qoala: if you will install both anyway, installing xp first is less work. as linux handles the boot-manager stuff automatically for you.
[10:10] <waylandbill> Minataku: I assume no nic either.
[10:10] <Minataku> waylandbill: One I can put a NIC in, the other I can't
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Minataku: then grab a Win98 boot floppy from www.bootdisk.com
[10:10] <Minataku> At least no NIC I have readily available or new enough
[10:11] <Minataku> Not to mention that a 1.44MB floppy won't work in a 720kB drive ;3
[10:11] <Minataku> (Well, if you cover the hole and reformat it, it's fine)
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Minataku: youu can get usb support for do so you can access usb hdds and pen drives
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> do = dos
[10:12] <Minataku> ActionParsnip: There's no USB support for an IBM PC/XT Compatible
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> stupid keyboard
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Minataku: not even a pci card?
[10:12] <Minataku> ...
[10:12] <waylandbill> Minataku: XT? I thought I'd never hear that mentioned again. :-D
[10:12] <Minataku> You don't know what an XT is, do you?
[10:12] <Minataku> ActionParsnip: Let me put it this way
[10:13] <rowenthedark> 8088 or 8086?
[10:13] <Minataku> The CPU is an Intel i80C86 @ 9.54MHz
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> Minataku: Ive played with old stuff i just forget what old stuff is called
[10:13] <Minataku> The HDD is 20MB in size
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> Minataku: oic nice
[10:13] <rowenthedark> wow circa 1984 i believe
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> Minataku: crazy
[10:13] <Minataku> Toshiba T1200
[10:13] <Minataku> 1987
[10:13] <waylandbill> yeah. I know what the XT line is. I guess I'm old. :-)
[10:13] <Minataku> I'm 22
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> Minataku: im 27
[10:13] <Minataku> The T1200 is 2 years younger than I am
[10:13] <Minataku> I have three other machines OLDER than I am
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Minataku: my first comp was when P1 MMX was released
[10:14] <waylandbill> I remember using them when they were new.
[10:14] <Minataku> 1980, 1983 and 1983
[10:14] <rowenthedark> Like apple IIc
[10:14] <Minataku> ActionParsnip: My first was a 386
[10:14] <waylandbill> My first one that I owned was a 386
[10:14] <rowenthedark> Or amiga 500
[10:15] <Minataku> Right now I have over in the corner running my Macintosh Quadra 650
[10:15] <Minataku> Running A/UX 3.1.1 no less :D
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Minataku: Toshiba T1200 = http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=917&st=1
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Minataku: nice
[10:15] <Minataku> ActionParsnip: Yep
[10:15] <Minataku> Article is bogus, though
[10:15] <Minataku> There's no ROM DOS
[10:15] <Minataku> At least not on the T1200
[10:15] <waylandbill> no.. I take that back. I had a C-64 way back when. :-)
[10:16] <Minataku> It has 1MB of RAM, though, with the upper 384-some kB usable as a RAMdrive
[10:16] <Minataku> Hardware-implemented, even
[10:16] <waylandbill> Minataku: gonna make a museum?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> waylandbill: ive had an atari 2600, a Toshiba MSX 64k and a ZX Spectrum 128k +2
[10:16] <Minataku> http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/random/auximages/ << Check these out :D
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> then Mega CD
[10:16] <Minataku> waylandbill: Yep
[10:17] <Minataku> I've got 22 machines
[10:17] <waylandbill> ActionParsnip: I remember the TRS-80. That was as useless as all hell.
[10:17] <Minataku> With more on the way
[10:17] <Minataku> The TRS-80 line was very popular
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> Minataku: looks ace man
[10:17] <Minataku> I have a TRS-80 PC-1
[10:17] <Minataku> Their first model pocket computer ;3
[10:18] <waylandbill> Minataku: I know. Many sold although I have no idea why
[10:18] <rowenthedark> Still have a regular nintendo, 386, 486 gateway, snes, original gameboy.
[10:18] <Minataku> waylandbill: You could run CP/M on them, I believe
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: snes was ACE
[10:18] <Minataku> At that time, if it could run CP/M it was useful no matter what
[10:18] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: uh huh
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> rowenthedark: didnt like the controller (shoulder buttons) but the games were better than sega
[10:19] <DarkED> hey all
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> lo DarkED
[10:19] <waylandbill> it's gotta be difficult to find some of that older hardware. I'd think many models would've been destroyed by now.
[10:19] <rowenthedark> ActionParsnip: The games were better.
[10:20] <Minataku> http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/random/auximages/ << Don't forget to look at these A/UX screenshots :D
[10:20] <Minataku> waylandbill: Only by assholes
[10:20] <waylandbill> LOL
[10:20] <Minataku> I took those screenshots and converted them from AppleSingle and their backwards ass PICT format
[10:20] <Minataku> Pain in the ass
[10:29] <HaSH> !iso
[10:29] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:29] <PhinnFort> HaSH: try acetoneis
[10:29] <PhinnFort> o
[10:30] <HaSH> hmm
[10:30] <HaSH> ok ill give it a look :-)
[10:30] <PhinnFort> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/AcetoneISO2?content=44805
[10:30] <PhinnFort> it's very usefull, if you don't like the command line
[10:32] <HaSH> yea no stranger to the cli ;-)
[10:33] <HaSH> *im
[10:42] <folding> can anyone help me with acpi/kubuntu shutdown?
[10:43] <AA_ZZ> can anyone help me with acpi/kubuntu shutdown?
[10:47] <thev> anyone know anything about openclipart.org?
[10:47] <thev> lots of references to it, but the site is down
[10:51] <Lunar_Lamp> How can I set up a shortcut key (win+t) to open a terminal (konsole)?
[10:51] <yotux> not sure
[10:53] <mindslant> I'm using Kubuntu 7.04 on an AMD64, what is the best way to install WINE...thankyou
[10:53] <Lunar_Lamp> gah, ok, found it.
[10:53] <PhinnFort> !wine
[10:53] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:53] <Lunar_Lamp> Keyboard shortcuts is under regional & accessibility when I thought it would be under peripherals.
[10:56] <cox377> i'ver got a problem with digikam
[10:57] <cox377> something to do with database, anyone know how to fully remove and reinstalled?
[11:04] <alesan^nc> hi, do you know if it's possible to install the vim-full without having to install gnome?
[11:05] <crimsun> no, it's not.
[11:05] <alesan^nc> I need the netrw thing, do I have to install the nasty gnome-gtk stuff?
[11:06] <alesan^nc> it's senseless :(
[11:06] <tsdgeos> it's ubuntu
[11:06] <alesan^nc> I mostly use vim through a ssh terminal
[11:06] <tsdgeos> remember kubuntu is not the primary desktop
[11:06] <alesan^nc> so I have no hope?
[11:06] <tsdgeos> of course
[11:06] <tsdgeos> bug the package mantainer
[11:07] <crimsun> s/bug/ask nicely/
[11:07] <crimsun> even better, provide debdiff(s)
[11:08] <alesan^nc> isn't it possible to force the installation of a package without the dependancies
[11:12] <BluesKaj> alesan^nc, i suppose it's possible to force installation, but without dependencies what good is athe pkg if it doesn't work?
[11:12] <alesan^nc> BluesKaj, I am not sure I need the dependencies if I do no use the graphical functions
[11:14] <BluesKaj> well alesan^nc , maybe there's a CLI version
[11:14] <alesan^nc> it seems not.
[11:16] <BluesKaj> bummer, alesan^nc
[11:20] <frojnd> does anyone here know for any 3d data browsers?
[11:21] <Giga> 
[11:39] <frojnd> does anyone here know for any 3d browsers, like konqueror is browser, I just need to browse 3d ...
[11:43] <BluesKaj> frojnd, the browsers aren't 3D , the content of the site the browser navigates to may be 3D if you know what sites are setup with 3D graphics
[11:44] <frojnd> BluesKaj: yes they are
[11:44] <BluesKaj> The browser you are using has to have the proper graphics utility plugins as well
[11:44] <BluesKaj> well , then why are you asking us if you already know
[11:45] <frojnd> BluesKaj: I sow it once, and lost link...
[11:45] <frojnd> also name
[11:45] <frojnd> otherwise I wouldn't bother
[11:45] <BluesKaj> yes, it was as a site not a browser
[11:45] <BluesKaj> get it ?
[11:46] <frojnd> I totally get it, just don't seem u get it what I mean
[11:46] <frojnd> or belive me
[11:48] <angrycore> hi all
[11:49] <angrycore> does anybody know how ubuntu could be recompiled for i686?)
[11:50] <Tm_T> angrycore: sure, but why?
[11:51] <angrycore> why?) you mean "for what?")
[11:51] <Tm_T> to gain theorethic 0.3 % advance?
[11:51] <angrycore> may be
[11:51] <Tm_T> angrycore: well, what is reason to do something like that
[11:51] <angrycore> but after recompiling the kernel the boost is quite sensable
[11:52] <Tm_T> well, just recompile every package
[11:52] <Chousuke> angrycore: you will gain nothing by recompiling ubuntu
[11:52] <Tm_T> wait, that's gentoo
[11:52] <Chousuke> angrycore: except an unsupportable system
[11:52] <afirmed> Hello there
[11:53] <Tm_T> Chousuke: well, lot's of doing gained
[11:53] <Chousuke> heh :P
[11:53] <BluesKaj> frojnd, I've never heard of a 3D browser , unless it was running inside a game or java or some such thing
[11:53] <angrycore> no, i dont want to recompile everything but some packages like xorg or kde
[11:53] <frojnd> BluesKaj: don't know if it was java
[11:54] <Chousuke> angrycore: that won't benefit you
[11:54] <angrycore> why?
[11:54] <Chousuke> angrycore: the packages that benefit from arch-dependent optimisations are already available
[11:54] <piotrek__> kurwa
[11:54] <Chousuke> ie. the kernel, and maybe libc
[11:55] <Tm_T> Chousuke: maybe
[11:55] <piotrek__> fucking linux
[11:55] <piotrek__> ;|
[11:55] <Tm_T> and about kernel, oh well, in i686 case, no real gaining I afraid
[11:55] <Chousuke> anyway, recompiling anything for just performance is not worth the troubles it causes.
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[11:55] <ubotu> piotrek__: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
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[11:55] <Chousuke> piotrek__: go whine someplace else.
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[11:56] <Tm_T> PriceChild:
[11:56] <ubuntu> ciao a tutti
[11:56] <ubuntu> hello
[11:57] <ubuntu> hello
[11:57] <Tm_T> hi
[11:57] <Chousuke> ubuntu: you can change your nickname from the default by typing /nick newnickname
[11:57] <Chousuke> right.
[11:57] <Chousuke> heh
[11:57] <ubuntuole> ciao
[11:58] <Tm_T> !it | ubuntuole
[11:58] <ubotu> ubuntuole: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:58] <angrycore> so you think that it worthless operation?)
[11:58] <Tm_T> angrycore: very
[11:58] <Chousuke> Yes
[11:58] <ubuntuole> ciao vado via
[11:58] <Tm_T> angrycore: unless you think it as educational moment
[11:59] <Chousuke> Well, most of waht you'll learn is that it wasn't worth the trouble
[11:59] <Chousuke> I used to recompile my own kernels and all taht stuff, too.
[11:59] <Jamie> Where's FSHero damn him
[11:59] <Jamie> :P
[11:59] <Chousuke> but then I stopped and went back to stock kernels :P
[12:00] <Chousuke> and now I'm using OS X as my primary OS :P
[12:00] <angrycore> i dont think ubuntu is good for deep linux educational purpose ) lfs or gentoo are much better for it)
[12:00] <jthomas> Chousuke: shame
[12:00] <Chousuke> depends on what kind of education you want.
[12:00] <Chousuke> jthomas: I'm pragmatical.
[12:01] <Chousuke> If I had a PC, though, I'd run Ubuntu on it.
[12:01] <jthomas> PC = Personal Computer.  Mac is a PC.  So, run Ubuntu!
[12:01] <angrycore> Chousuke: sure
[12:01] <Chousuke> meh
[12:01] <jthomas> lol
[12:02] <Chousuke> I meant non-mac ;p
[12:02] <angrycore> (:
[12:02] <francesco_> are there italian channel?
[12:02] <Chousuke> I'm currently booted to windows though because I wanted to play a game taht doesn't work in wine.
[12:02] <jthomas> yeah those macs are sooo special
[12:02] <Chousuke> that's all I use windows for, really.
[12:02] <Chousuke> I have two games that are win-only
[12:02] <Chousuke> and one app, but that I can run in a VM
[12:03] <francesco_> buona sera ci sta un canale italiano?
[12:03] <Chousuke> !it
[12:03] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:03] <francesco_> grazie
[12:03] <francesco_> !it
[12:03] <angrycore> i also got winxp home on my notebook, but only cause it was imposible to by it without windows
[12:03] <Chousuke> type /join #kubuntu-it
[12:03] <ejortegau> hey guys... my ubuntu server seems to know its hostname but not its domain name... how can i set it?
[12:04] <vecina> I miffed the command for konqueror and now it wont load it up from the quickstart. Its associated command is now "sudo konqueror". Can anyone tell me what the correct command should be?
[12:04] <angrycore> hmm.. i've never booted in afted the first time in store to check hardware
[12:05] <vecina> this is for web browsing
[12:05] <uros> hi all. how do i find out which kernel i am running?
[12:05] <angrycore> uname -a
[12:05] <angrycore> uros: uname -r )
[12:06] <BluesKaj> vecina, kdesu konqueror
[12:06] <vecina> Blueskaj Its not even supposed to be using a password, i just want to quickload the web browser
[12:06] <vecina> i wanted to create a superuser konqueror, and somehow it overwrote the normal web browser icon in the quickstart
[12:07] <BluesKaj> dunno
[12:07] <vecina> can anyone look to see what the command is on theirs? it didnt even have the word "konqueror" in it i remember
[12:07] <vecina> it was like webconnect blah b lah or  something
[12:11] <antonis> i want to know if there is "  System > Administration > Software Sources " in kubuntu
[12:11] <angrycore> maybe it is good to use kde sessions feature?
[12:12] <BluesKaj> antonis, its' called /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:12] <angrycore> or place konqueror in ~./kde/Autostart
[12:12] <antonis> angrycore: how i can turn into kde???
[12:14] <rita> i have installed kubuntu but i cant add more packaes live for example kvirc or mc, any help?