') [01:24] cprov: ok, thanks, will try another upload then :) [01:24] lfittl: you can blame *me* for passing wrong information, sorry. 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[08:22] man I'm freezing here [08:23] spiv: ping [08:23] jamesh: ping [08:23] thumper: ping === Hobbsee throws lifeless into a pool of lava to warm up. [08:23] awww, how sweet [08:23] if a little... permanent [08:24] pong [08:24] == Agenda == [08:24] * Roll call [08:24] * Next meeting [08:24] * Queue status. [08:24] * Are reviews fair/balanced? [08:25] * Preimplementation call status [08:26] jamesh: ping [08:26] thumper: ping [08:26] pong [08:26] its 0600 UTC now right ? [08:26] lifeless: 0626, yeah. [08:26] well yeah [08:27] "date -u" says 06:26 [08:27] thumper: last call for .nz [08:28] BjornT: you talked about review fairness last week in .eu right ? [08:29] lifeless: yeah (or a couple of weeks ago) === Fujitsu [n=william@c58-107-52-79.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #launchpad [08:30] we haven't talked about it in .au though IIRC? [08:30] Not that I am aware of. [08:30] ok [08:30] final agenda [08:30] == Agenda == [08:30] * Roll call [08:30] * Next meeting [08:30] * Queue status. [08:30] * Are reviews fair/balanced? [08:30] * Preimplementation call status [08:31] * Meta review duration [08:31] lets do this [08:31] == Next meeting == [08:31] 2007-06-19 at 0600 UTC [08:31] all in favour interrupt the next point [08:31] all *not* in favour ... [08:31] That's also a Tuesday? [08:32] same bat time [08:32] same bat channel [08:32] Is the plan to switch to Tuesdays permanently? [08:32] I thought thats what you had voted to do. I was surprised that you did that in the convenors absence but still :) === allenap [n=allenap@212.233.37.80] has joined #launchpad [08:33] IIRC, I didn't express an opinion either way ;) [08:33] heh [08:33] are you fine with this time? [08:33] Yeah, this time is ok with me. [08:34] I was just asking to make sure there's no confusion. [08:34] ok [08:34] so pending-reviews looks like a bomb dropped on it [08:35] thats at least partly my fault - I find the incremental branches hell to allocate - and partly the Queens birthday here. [08:35] A bomb called "first round of a time-based release cycle" :) [08:35] quick count [08:36] 32 branches [08:36] one at 54 days? [08:36] I have reviews for my two in progress, should be done tonight. [08:37] reviewer workload is sneaking up [08:37] statik has 5K to review - but these figures are bogus aren't they ? [08:38] Yeah, incremental diffs. [08:38] yeah. bug-workflow-3 depends on two other branches, and the first one is really big. [08:39] so we can't really tell a) how many 'units of work' are blocked on review or b) how much review work really is involved. === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.8.8.95.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad [08:39] I've asked SteveA to allocate time to jamesh to implement this. [08:40] that would be nice, i've wanted that functionality for a long time. [08:41] well the developer workflow appears to have changed. So I think its critical now rather than optional. [08:41] SteveA: ^ [08:41] * Are reviews fair/balanced? [08:41] BjornT: what did the .eu meeting conclude, for anyone at this one that hasn't read the minutes. [08:41] Is there a record of the .eu team discussion on this? I couldn't find the relevant minutes. [08:41] (which btw are not linked on the wiki) [08:42] well, it's in https://launchpad.canonical.com/ReviewerMeeting20070523, "if overwhelmed, push back to general queue" [08:42] nor AFAICT on the launchpad or lp-reviews list. [08:43] oh, that far back. Ok [08:43] are you sure thats the same discussion? [08:43] the main idea was that every reviewer should be expected to spend a more or less equal amount of time reviewing. [08:43] Oh, I did see that one. I didn't realise it was the same topic. [08:43] no this is not the same topic [08:43] let me introduce this topic [08:43] oh, then what's this about? :) [08:44] Theres been a concern raised that developers that have been around longer are having their code put under substantially less scrutiny than new developers regardless of their development experience. [08:46] now, this may simply be that the folk who have been around longer are passing through the same checks and balances more easily [08:46] or it may be that we are not actually being as thorough. [08:46] I've had a look myself and it didn't seem biased to me. [08:47] but I think its important that a topic like this get talked about openly and clearly. [08:47] because the review process is a key one, and one that could easily demoralise developers if they felt it was unfair. === geser_ is now known as geser [08:48] any comment, or stunned silence? [08:49] I agree with what you've said. [08:49] it would be good if the people that are complaining would point out a few examples [08:50] so r 4236 was pointed out as a case where someone felt this may have happened. [08:50] Reviewers can make mistakes, and developers should feel free to disagree with a comment made by a reviewer. [08:52] now if you look at that review there are plenty of things jamesh said === spiv is looking [08:52] he missed one minor thing which is import alpha-sorting [08:53] for r4236 (and related commits), we have been working under time pressure [08:53] > + stepthrough, Navigation, RedirectionView, [08:53] import alphabetising is hardly showstopper. [08:54] Oh, I agree. But if a new developer is called on it, its fair for them to expect senior developers to be held to the same or even a higher standard. [08:54] there were definitely some issues with the branch that could have been done better, but I made the call to get it in so we could fix them and do further work in parallel [08:55] right [08:55] so we don't aim for perfection on every merge; we're aiming to balance: [08:55] and considering the diff for r4236 is 6314 lines, it's easy to miss a few minor things. [08:55] - branch size [08:55] - urgency of delivery [08:55] - overall importance [08:56] and [08:56] we have an already agreed process for merging things we've decided 'will happen' with fixups later. [08:56] AIUI openid was one of those things? [08:58] jamesh: ? [08:58] lifeless: yeah. We are dealing with an external contractor for some of this, so it is not workable to keep things out of tree til perfect [08:58] ok [08:59] then I'd like to say in reply to this concern, something like: === dneary [n=dneary@mne69-9-88-163-116-163.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad [08:59] that's probably the biggest difference between it and other similar cases [08:59] We're not aware of a bias to senior/long service developers. [09:00] lifeless: sorry, was having dinner [09:00] The given example went in under the 'its going to happen' policy where the code is polished further after it lands, and this has in fact happened/is happening. [09:01] all in favour? [09:01] thumper: no prob [09:01] lifeless: sounds good. But maybe it could have been clearer that that landing happened under that policy? [09:02] I think thats a good point. [09:03] I can't remember if we ended up documenting the process, I think the discussion about that got sidelined into 'what wiki page it should go on' when Bjorn was talking with Joey. [09:03] but the policy was clear in our minutes :) [09:04] BjornT: happy with that response? jamesh ? [09:04] sure. [09:04] yeah. although, it would be good to make it more clear. [09:05] BjornT: which 'it' [09:05] to make it more clear, that the branch needs to be landed quickly, and will be polished later. [09:06] BjornT: I agree with that. However this branch *was* landed quickly, and *is* being polished. (jamesh <- is that right) === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad [09:07] when we discussed it a while a go, i think we talked about adding a [fasttrack] tag to pqm, or something like that. [09:07] having the policy documented somewhere would be nice :) [09:07] right. So I'm separating out the reponse about bias, and the making the policy clear discussion. [09:07] on the former I want consensus [09:08] on the latter I know we already have it. [09:08] there should also be a way of tracking the work to polish the branch. [09:08] can you add that to the agenda for .eu and next week's .au? We are about to run out of time. [09:08] sure [09:09] thanks [09:09] * Preimplementation call status [09:09] Barry brought this up [09:09] are you doing pre-imp calls? Are you nagging when you get a branch that didn't have one? Are they useful? Are pre-imp-called branches better? [09:10] I think it is handy to have so the reviewer knows that it has been talked about [09:10] I haven't really been nagging, but then most have some entry now [09:10] mmm, thats really just an appeal to authority though. [09:11] i didn't have any last week (except for a few in-person ones with gavin), since i was on a sprint. [09:11] I've had some calls with jml, and I think they've been useful. [09:11] ok [09:11] * Meta review duration [09:11] This was in the minutes [09:11] and I'm back [09:11] so - [09:12] I think the meta-review should stop when the meta-reviewer is satisfied that the reviewer knows the ropes [09:12] sounds fair [09:12] just like a branch is let through when the reviewer is happy with the branch [09:13] Sounds reasonable. As a data point, I'm happy with thumper's reviewing, so I'd expect the other new reviewers are probably doing equally well. [09:13] right [09:13] ok. [09:13] any other business? [09:13] just to clarify [09:14] am I still sending reviews pending spiv's approval? [09:14] ask spiv :) [09:14] spiv: ? [09:14] thumper: as of right now, you're on your own ;) [09:14] w00t [09:14] thumper: I'll review the reviews you've already sent me. [09:14] ok === jamesh was happy with thumper's reviews while spiv was away too [09:15] ok [09:16] welcome to the non-provisional status thumper ! === thumper bows [09:16] 5 [09:16] 4 [09:16] thanks [09:16] 3 [09:16] 2 [09:16] 1 [09:16] 0 [09:16] meeting over [09:16] lifeless: thanks === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad === mpt again finds that a bug he was about to report was reported by Matthew Paul Thomas last year [09:29] Thwarted by my past self! === chris__ [n=chris@dhcp046122.wireless.unsw.EDU.AU] has joined #launchpad === chris__ is now known as RAOF === tca [n=tom@ti541110a080-6896.bb.online.no] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad === chris__ [n=chris@dhcp046122.wireless.unsw.EDU.AU] has joined #launchpad === superm1 is now known as superm1_bed === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad === allenap_ [n=allenap@212.233.37.241] has joined #launchpad === allenap [n=allenap@212.233.37.241] has joined #launchpad === bigjools [n=bigjools@canonical/launchpad/bigjools] has joined #launchpad === tca [n=tom@ti541110a080-6896.bb.online.no] has left #launchpad [] [10:17] lifeless: hello === chris__ [n=chris@dhcp046122.wireless.unsw.EDU.AU] has left #launchpad [] [10:18] hi [10:19] SteveA: hi [10:34] lifeless: in my "away" scrollback, I had some ^^^^ from you. [10:35] right [10:35] I was giving you hopefully more context than I put in the email you should have gotten overnight [10:37] so, it's worth the effort for me to look through the scrollback? [10:39] let me recap [10:39] reviews are very hard to allocate at the moment because of the use of incremental branches === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad [10:39] lifeless: joey and thumper had a suggestion about having more than one person allocate reviews, concurrently, to take some load from you [10:40] all the statistics that had made it relatively straight forward are broken, and the number of branches is high [10:40] because we're comparing the work to mainline? [10:40] I'm more than happy to have multiple people allocating, that won't solve the root problem though [10:40] which is that you cannot use the numbers as guidance now [10:40] yes because of that [10:41] So I think its very important to either stop doing incremental branches (which has its own costs) or fix the current tool (which requires developer effort) [10:41] I don't have the time to fix it myself right now unfortunately. [10:41] can you sketch out what the fix would look like? [10:42] theres a header in the wiki page saying what branch the diff should be like. the cronscript would be changed to diff against that when its present. [10:42] should be very straightforward for someone familiar with the code (and there are two such people that I know of - me and jamesh) [10:43] ok. and we need to make sure that forthcoming launchpad features in this area [10:43] can cope with the same kind of branch [10:43] thats the core of it; theres more that could be done, but thats the key item. [10:43] I'm aware we dont want to invest heavily in the non-launchpad solution [10:43] and yes the lp integrated reviews will need to handle this situation. [10:45] ok, thanks [10:45] who can we ask to be a second allocator of reviews? [10:45] I suggest bjornt or salgado [10:45] because they are familar and in a different timezone [10:45] and different country [10:45] once we have the single sign on stuff done, I'd like to ask jamesh to improve the review cron script [10:45] so they won't typically hit the same holidays [10:45] sure, let's ask salgado [10:46] would you mail him? [10:46] as the coordinator of reviews etc. [10:46] and if they do it in their morning we get 12-hour latency rather than 23:55 as at the moment, so its more than just a load sharing win. [10:46] naturally. [10:46] thanks === _thumper_ [n=tim@125-236-193-95.adsl.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad [10:49] the SSO stuff, is that days/weeks/months away? The key tweak is probably under a days work for jamesh. [10:50] SteveA: ^ [10:51] days/weeks [10:52] ok [10:52] if it looks like stretching out, please consider giving him a morning to see what he can do. [10:52] is there a bug on this? [10:53] I believe so [10:53] the question is, to what release do we target the bug [10:53] but with the deprecation of lp-development-infrastructure I'm not sure where to find it [10:54] if jamesh has finished his single sign on work, then 1.1.6 is possible [10:54] otherwise, we can shoot for 1.1.7 [10:54] for single sign on? === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-236-193.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad === mvo__ [n=egon@p54A659F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === mvo__ is now known as mvo === carlos__ [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad [11:10] morning === carlos__ is now known as carlos === tokj [n=tk@unaffiliated/tokj] has joined #launchpad === tokj_ [n=tk@unaffiliated/tokj] has joined #launchpad === faidillinger [n=faidilli@abo-49-240-68.guy.modulonet.fr] has joined #launchpad [11:46] morning carlos === Prognatus [n=bjorn@2.80-203-143.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-76-204-9-149.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === barry [n=barry@canonical/launchpad/barry] has joined #launchpad === bigjools is now known as bigjools-afk === zwnj [n=zwnj@194.225.70.226] has joined #launchpad === raphink [i=raphink@nat/wormhole.x-echo.com/x-6cc591a9e805a144] has joined #launchpad === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === bigjools-afk is now known as bigjools === beuno [i=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #launchpad === mvo_ [n=egon@p54A675E7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === mvo__ [n=egon@p54A65221.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === salgado [n=salgado@canonical/launchpad/salgado] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200-103-135-160.ctame705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@canonical/launchpad/matsubara] has joined #launchpad === cprov-afk is now known as cprov === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad [02:13] good morning [02:13] morning cprov! [02:13] Hobbsee: hi there (note that I'm not mentioning any names today) [02:15] hehe === zwnj [n=zwnj@194.225.70.226] has joined #launchpad === mvo__ is now known as mvo === j^ [n=j^@e177091062.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #launchpad [02:29] how can i delete a branch? [02:29] i wanted to add another svn mirror and it ended up trying to mirror a bzr branch [02:30] now i can not delete it === cate [n=cate@cepew121208.ethz.ch] has joined #launchpad [02:32] j^: you can't delete a branch [02:32] j^: you can mark it obsolete though [02:33] j^: can you give some details? [02:33] what i wanted to do was to register another django svn branch to merge them using bzr [02:34] ended up to create a bzr branch https://code.launchpad.net/~j/django/multiple-db-support [02:34] which is wrong [02:34] why does launchpad add a bzr branch if it can not import it from the url provided? [02:34] would want to delete that now [02:34] I've some problem on log in. I've no error, but I'm alway "not logged". Some hits? [02:35] cate: Are you sure that you have allowed cookies for launchpad? === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad [02:39] oojah: thanks. It seems I clicked the wrong cookies' button. BTW firefox should have a search function [02:40] cate: Search for what? [02:41] for the coockies in the allow and block windows (as in the stored cookies list) [02:41] Ah, ok. [02:42] Yeah, that would make things easier. [02:42] yes, because they are not ordered by second level domain [03:00] oops, i shouldn't ask for more info then have lunch [03:01] is it possible to close o change status of a bug? [03:02] is it possible to add another vcs-import to a project? or is vcs-import no longer provided? fail to find a way to add branches other than bzr [03:02] j^: you can only have one vcs-import per project === mpt_ [n=mpt@121-72-129-224.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad [03:03] because of the way the importer works, if you imported from both svn.example.org/trunk and svn.example.org/branches/foo you'd get two (as far as bzr could tell) unrelated branches [03:04] ah ok, in that case i can not use launchpad for what i thought i could [03:04] what are you trying to do? [03:05] i wanted to merge two svn branches i do not have write access to [03:07] ah hm [03:07] you could try bzr-svn for that [03:08] requires svn 1.5-trunk [03:16] or a patched svn [03:16] yes, the installation is a pain [03:16] the svn in feisty is good enough :) === Theuni [n=ctheune@uter.gocept.com] has joined #launchpad === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #launchpad [03:17] howdi [03:18] Theuni: hi [03:18] I'm wondering how to deal with upgrading a bzr branch that is hosted on launchpad so it becomes usable for tags [03:18] Should I just delete that branch and push it again? [03:18] When I try upgrading it gives me this error: [03:18] bzr: ERROR: Permission denied: u'/~alphaflowforms/alphaflowforms/trunk_ctheune/.bzr.backup': [Errno 13] Can only create .bzr directories in branch directories: .bzr.backup [03:18] mwhudson: Is that something you can help Theuni with? === Fujitsu [n=william@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #launchpad [03:26] Theuni: log in with lftp or something, delete the .bzr directory and push again (with --use-existing-dir) [03:26] there's a bug somewhere about this [03:27] https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/118653 [03:27] Launchpad bug 118653 in launchpad-bazaar "Need --no-backup flag or similar to upgrade remote repos on launchpad" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Jonathan Lange (jml) === bac [n=bac@canonical/launchpad/bac] has joined #launchpad === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable040.144-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === j^ [n=j^@e177091062.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #launchpad [] [03:36] where can someone suscribe to a package to recieve email notifications on pathces and bugs (think, debian maintainer) === BjornT_ [n=bjorn@ip-213-190-55-148.static.b4net.lt] has joined #launchpad === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@foresight/developer/OgMaciel] has joined #launchpad [03:42] beuno: Heh, that'd be too good to be true. You can get notification on bugs by heading to the bugs page for the source package and finding the right Actions link, but that's all. === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@foresight/developer/OgMaciel] has joined #launchpad === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad === beuno [i=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #launchpad [03:48] sorry, got disconnected [03:48] where can someone suscribe to a package to recieve email notifications on pathces and bugs (think, debian maintainer) [03:50] subscribe to ubuntu-bugs mailing list? [03:50] not sure apart from that [03:50] Hobbsee: but he just wants to be notified for a specific package (his packages) [03:50] I thought you could dothat in Launchpad [03:51] you can subscribe to all bugs and such on a package (bugmail settings from the bugs page) but not patches as well, iirc. === superm1_bed is now known as superm1 === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad [04:26] New bug: #120037 in launchpad "Action reported in email as done by owner rather than administrator" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120037 === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/rinchen] has joined #launchpad === jelmer_ [n=jelmer@157pc196.sshunet.nl] has joined #launchpad === jelmer_ is now known as jelmer === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.37.113] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44711.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad [04:51] guys can somebody help me, I filed a bug in launchpad & also got acknowledgement for upstream debian bug no. how do I enter it in launchpad? === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad [04:55] BjornT: do you have any idea how to do that? [04:56] shirish: you want to link the Launchpad bug to the debian bug? [04:58] jamesh: right [04:58] shirish: on the bug page, there is some text like "Also affects: + Upstream + Distribution" [04:59] if you click on the "Distribution..." link, you can pick Debian from the distribution list and enter the URL of the Debian bug report [04:59] submit that form and you're done === kiko-zzz is now known as kiko [05:00] jamesh: how do I find the url, I got the bug no. I used submit@bugs.debian.org to submit the bug, got an acknowledgement there with the bug no. [05:01] he ll o [05:01] shirish: go to http://bugs.debian.org/NNNN (where NNNN is the bug number) [05:01] shirish: it will redirect you to the bug's URL [05:01] ah ok that's cool [05:02] yippee, task completed [05:03] I gotta write that whole thing down somewhere [05:03] I mean the whole process. [05:04] shirish: the Debian task on the bug should now get updated as the remote Debian bug's status changes [05:09] jamesh: thanx === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === radhios [n=radhios@96-208-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === mvo_ [n=egon@p54A6685D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #launchpad === mdz [n=mdz@72.165.117.168] has joined #launchpad === mvo__ [n=egon@p54A65FD2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === cprov is now known as cprov-lunch === mvo__ is now known as mvo === phanatic_ [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === phanatic_ is now known as phanatic [06:05] New bug: #120052 in soyuz "Component mapping for new source packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120052 [06:07] any LP admisn around? === Hobbsee pokes jamesh or something [06:12] matsubara: doesnt seem alive, either [06:12] hello Hobbsee [06:12] Hobbsee: how can I help you? [06:12] matsubara: ooh, you are here. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/119467 [06:13] Launchpad bug 119467 in kubuntu-meta "make non-essential packages Recommends and not Depends" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [06:13] matsubara: last comment. [06:14] matsubara: seeing that, fairly easy as to how to help :) [06:15] Hobbsee: thanks for bringing that up. I've requested deletion. [06:16] with a nice username ;-) https://bugs.launchpad.net/~hahahahaha/ [06:16] matsubara: thanks [06:16] indeed. pity it came up in my inbox, as i'm subscribed to teh bug [06:16] it's pretty impressive - the LP message ended up coming up as possible spam [06:20] New bug: #120053 in rosetta "upstream translation of digikam not imported (once again)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120053 === schwuk_ [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad === mdz [i=mdz@nat/google/x-8436f482e469a5b5] has joined #launchpad === kiko is now known as kiko-fud === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === lifeless_ [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=zwnj@194.225.70.226] has joined #launchpad === brussel_ [n=brussel@adsl-71-154-207-12.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === bigjools is now known as bigjools-afk === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #launchpad === flacoste is now known as flacoste_lunch === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #launchpad === Thangalin [n=jarvisd@S010600195b2546cb.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #launchpad === Thangalin [n=Lnjmbp31@S010600195b2546cb.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #launchpad [08:07] Hello. [08:07] Anyone know who runs this site: https://answers.launchpad.net/azureus ? [08:08] Is anyone here alive? [08:08] NO === kiko-fud is now known as kiko [08:09] So, kiko ... Do you know who is in charge of the answers.launchpad.net/azureus site? :-) [08:09] that's a question with two answers [08:09] I don't mind people raising from the dead to answer questions. [08:09] answers.launchpad.net [08:09] is run by us, of course [08:09] I'm not sure what azureus is. [08:09] Azureus is a bittorrent client. [08:10] yay, kiko! [08:10] So how do I find out who can change something at the azureus part of the website? [08:10] Thangalin, okay so far. so why do you want to know? :) [08:11] Two reasons. [08:11] 1. There is a spelling boo-boo. [08:11] 2. I'd like to get an e-mail address removed from the website. [08:12] Any ideas on how to go about this? [08:12] I see [08:12] what e-mail address? [08:12] and why's the spello? [08:12] https://bugs.launchpad.net/azureus/+bug/83594 [08:12] Launchpad bug 83594 in azureus "[feisty] azureus wont open after update of java" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [08:13] That's the one, ubotu. [08:13] And this page: https://answers.launchpad.net/azureus/ [08:13] "Azreus BitTorrent Client" [08:13] Should really be "Azureus BitTorrent Client" === jkakar [n=jkakar@204-174-36-45.dhcp802.dsl.ucc-net.ca] has joined #launchpad === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-087-069.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad [08:14] For some reason when BUGabundo quoted me, it included my e-mail address. === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #launchpad [08:16] That was some serious quick finding, ubotu. :-) [08:16] huh, whoever registered the azureus project typoed the name [08:16] Well that was silly of them. [08:16] it was [08:16] No way to change it, eh? [08:16] not for me [08:17] you need an admin [08:17] like kiko, for example === mwhudson ducks [08:17] I really don't care about the typo; but I'd really like the e-mail address removed. :-) === flacoste_lunch is now known as flacoste [08:19] Is that going to be an issue? === cprov-lunch is now known as cprov [08:22] Allo? Is this thing still on? ;-) [08:24] I'll fix it. I'm very busy right now. [08:24] Thanks, Kiko. I appreciate it. [08:24] Take it easy, eh? :-) [08:24] typo fixed. === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44428.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad [08:25] as for your email address [08:25] I can't help you directly [08:25] Yes? [08:25] Oh. [08:25] Anyone in particular I should pester/ [08:25] and I honestly think it's a wasted effort to even try to protect it [08:25] if you don't want your email address cited on the internet, you can't use it publically [08:25] but ANYWAY [08:25] I will talk to an admin to see what we can do about it. [08:26] Gracias. And I agree with you completely. I have a secondary e-mail address I use for public stuff -- I forgot to use it when signing up at Launchpad. === gianmt [n=ubuntu@host110-22-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad === lifeless_ is now known as lifeless === tokj [n=tk@unaffiliated/tokj] has joined #launchpad === `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #launchpad === lamont [i=lamont@nat/hp/x-c4608a929fbe53fc] has joined #launchpad === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ubuntu/member/gwaihir] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad === radhios [n=radhios@96-208-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad === fernando1 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-f6e1f5ed6d882968] has joined #launchpad === thumper [n=tim@125-236-193-95.adsl.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad === superm1_ [i=malimonc@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad [10:33] Hi guys, How do you add a task for a bug? Say it affects several ubuntu packages, and I want to notate that as 2 tasks to fix on the bug? === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-184-56.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [11:02] superm1_: Also affects distribution [11:02] superm1_: click on distribution === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #launchpad === PeP` [n=PeP@185.142-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === cprov is now known as cprov-out === shawn__ [n=shawn@adsl-70-231-227-173.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === mdz [i=mdz@nat/google/x-b716b695aaec1d1c] has joined #launchpad [11:33] thanks crimsun & gnomefreak. got that bug cleaned up now === faidillinger [n=faidilli@abo-49-240-68.guy.modulonet.fr] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === doko_ is now known as doko