[12:44] <BenC> jmg: thanks
[03:34] <superm1> Hi guys.  I have been encountering kernel oops' consistently on the current x86_64 system.  I wanted to submit a useful bug report with the oops, but it appears to be an oops during scheduling and isn't written out to disk.  I am going to set up a serial console to capture the entire thing, is there anything else that would be useful to do, say install linux-image-debug-* or anything like that?
[08:53] <kraut> moin
[01:55] <zul> morning
[03:01] <Nafallo> amitk: welcome :-)
[05:58] <thully> Hi - I've found an issue with the appletouch kernel modules (macbook trackpad) - for which I've found a temporary workaround...
[05:59] <thully> the issue is that the appletouch module doesn't let you change the mouse pointer acceleration, UNLESS you do a rmmod appletouch and modprobe appletouch
[05:59] <thully> then it's good until you restart X
[08:06] <zul> BenC: ping
[08:06] <BenC> zul: hey
[08:06] <zul> email sent :)
[08:07] <BenC> cool
[10:23] <xhaker> Hi all
[10:23] <xhaker> any of you acquainted with clocksource unstable kernel messages? 
[10:27] <xhaker> I think it's related to dynamic ticks feature that got into the kernel at 21
[10:27] <mjg59> If it's just that the TSC is unstable, that's normal
[10:27] <mjg59> It's from the high-precision timer framework, not dynamic ticks
[10:29] <xhaker> oh.. then it might not be that that is causing my computer to pause booting
[10:29] <xhaker> i've searched the forums but didn't find any info on this problem
[10:30] <xhaker> gusty boot pauses and continues if any input is given.. like touching the touchpad.. or pressing any key
[10:30] <xhaker> s/gusty/gutsy
[10:31] <Amaranth> are you sure it's not just trying to setup non-existing interfaces from /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:31] <Amaranth> i had a 2 minute pause in feisty because of that
[10:33] <xhaker> Amaranth, howdy! it's not that
[10:33] <ivoks> mjg59: there's one easy-to-fix bug in acpi-support
[10:33] <xhaker> it pauses several times
[10:33] <xhaker> if I have my usb mouse connected it doesn't pause
[10:33] <xhaker> i figured a optical mouse generates input events always
[10:33] <xhaker> an*
[10:34] <Amaranth> xhaker: it shouldn't
[10:34] <xhaker> you know how /dev/urandom or /dev/random generates numbers based on the hardware signals
[10:35] <xhaker> i think the boot is needing to be fed with signals too
[10:35] <xhaker> pretty weird yes
[10:35] <xhaker> but that's the only explanation i can find
[10:35] <xhaker> it's not only me with the problem too
[10:36] <xhaker> oh my engrish!
[10:36] <xhaker> option idle=poll makes the computer boot at normal speed
[10:38] <xhaker> might have to do with new udev :D
[10:38] <xhaker> mjg59, what do you think?
[10:41] <mjg59> Yes, that sounds like it might be a problem with dynamic ticks
[10:41] <mjg59> But it's unrelated to unstable clocksource messages
[10:41] <xhaker> I was reading too much into it
[10:42] <xhaker> fedora 7 install was stalling too (pausing) but clocksource=acpi_pm solved that
[10:43] <xhaker> i don't think it's important.. but it might be to somebody
[10:43] <xhaker> I'm in a dual core laptop. k8