[12:40] <Mithrandir> moimart: well, I'm not in MTV, so pinging me is kinda useless. :-)
[01:21] <moimart> Mithrandir: I didn't know, I just thought so :)
[10:45] <lool> Weird; I didn't see any changed content in the commit mail from cjwatson
[12:00] <cjwatson> lool: the one that just removed *.o files?
[12:01] <cjwatson> lool: right, that was actually a bug in the source package construction, not visible in bzr; I was just syncing up the changelog
[12:04] <cjwatson> lool: would you be able to test a hildon-desktop change for me? I've fixed it to build properly on amd64, but I'm not in a position to test that I haven't broken anything else
[12:05] <cjwatson> http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/tmp/hildon-desktop.64bit.diff
[12:05] <cjwatson> failing that, review from somebody who knows glib/gtk well wouldn't hurt
[12:10] <inz> Looks good to me at least ;)
[12:15] <vikramb11> no activity ?
[12:16] <lool> cjwatson: Oh ok
[12:16] <lool> cjwatson: I'm not in a position to test either; I don't have gutsy bootstrapped anywhere
[12:19] <lool> cjwatson: gsize changes look okay; GINT_TO_POINTER/GPOINTER_TO_INT stuff looks ok
[12:19] <lool> Ew, the upstream version reusing hildon_desktop_home_item_set_is_background() was a bit crude
[12:20] <cjwatson> ~[A 
[12:20] <cjwatson> (sorry)
[12:20] <cjwatson> vikramb11: five minutes isn't long to wait :)
[12:21] <cjwatson> no, it was local lag and repeated reattach attempts causing screen and irssi to get a bit confused
[12:21] <cjwatson> I think perhaps I'll commit those hildon-desktop changes but not upload
[12:21] <cjwatson> I don't want to screw things up for folks at the sprint
[12:22] <cjwatson> lool: thanks
[12:22] <lool> The thanks are to you fox fixing it :-P
[01:41] <inz> Is there any (easy) way to test "64-bit compilation" without a 64-bit machine?
[02:07] <cjwatson_> inz: not that I can think of
[02:10] <inz> cjw, then I guess I need to either steal my gf's machine or go to the hardware store ;)
[02:14] <lool> inz: Perhaps qemu?
[03:07] <lool> Hmm unfortunately, casper fails to find the gutsy amd64 CD when run in qemy
[03:07] <lool> qemu-system-x86_64 even
[03:27] <lool> Not specific to amd64 it seems  :-/
[03:49] <cjwatson> lool: specific to qemu?
[04:16] <lool> cjwatson: I think so
[04:16] <lool> And vmware wasn't updated yet for 2.6.22; /me gives a try to kvm to get a gutsy env
[04:16] <lool> Module doesn't build; ah
[04:17] <lool> kvm seems based on qemu; I doubt it will do any better
[04:19] <lool> cjwatson: Ah, you can't boot on USB and IDE won't work with Ubuntu's kernel, but you can boot on IDE cdrom and pass the cdrom image as an USB disk at the same time: casper finds it   \o/
[06:35] <cjwatson> hildon-theme-layout-4 accepted and publishing now
[06:50] <moimart> http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HildonDesktopPortability
[06:52] <mdz> http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/hildon/
[07:01] <bspencer_> http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HildonDesktopPortability
[07:50] <Mithrandir> mdz: hiya, how's it going?
[07:51] <mdz> Mithrandir: a bit slowly, unfortunately
[07:51] <mdz> Mithrandir: I thought hildon-desktop was going to be ready on friday?
[07:52] <Mithrandir> it was, but all of its dependencies weren't, unfortunately.
[07:52] <Mithrandir> how's the specs progressing?
[07:53] <Mithrandir> I haven't really been online before now, so I haven't seen anything by email.
[07:54] <mdz> Mithrandir: I spent much of yesterday finishing the bootstrap of hildon-desktop
[07:54] <mdz> and now we have it running in a chroot
[07:54] <mdz> with Xephyr
[07:54] <mdz> though it looks very strange
[07:54] <Mithrandir> missing theme bits, or something else?
[07:55] <mdz> not sure yet
[08:02] <Mithrandir> mdz: have you had any progress on the specs or focues squarely on bootstrapping?
[08:02] <mdz> Mithrandir: I have personally been spending most of my time on bootstrapping, because this is the only opportunity we have to set up gutsy development environments
[08:02] <mdz> Mithrandir: kyle has been working on the kernel spec
[08:03] <Mithrandir> do you know what the rest has been doing?
[08:12] <mdz> Mithrandir: we have discussed some design issues, the kernel, worked together on setting up development environments, did some whiteboarding yesterday
[08:16] <mdz> Mithrandir: what have you been doing about autogen with the maemo packages you've imported?
[08:16] <mdz> Mithrandir: adding the build-dependencies, or pregenerating?
[08:19] <Mithrandir> pregenerating in most cases
[08:19] <Mithrandir> I'm somewhat tempted to change that into adding the build-depends.
[08:39] <mdz> Mithrandir: I've been doing that for the sake of expediency
[08:40] <Mithrandir> that's fine with me, at least.
[08:40] <Mithrandir> but, we're off for food here now.  I'll see if I can drop by later; leaving messages on IRC is probably better than email until I go to debconf.
[09:01] <cjwatson> hildon-theme-plankton failed to build for the same reason as before, https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/347830
[09:01] <cjwatson> mdz: ^--
[09:02] <mdz> cjwatson: hmm, I uploaded a new version since that one
[09:02] <mdz> which probably hasn't built yet
[09:02] <cjwatson> this is the one uploaded an hour ago
[09:02] <mdz> 4.8.2-1ubuntu3 is latest
[09:02] <cjwatson> I see there's another one in accepted though, ok
[09:04] <mdz> I'm bootstrapping a pbuilder here to try to avoid this, but it's taking a while to download (and failed the last time)
[11:10] <kylem> http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/hildon/
[11:41] <mdz> rusty_: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mobile/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.gutsy
[11:58] <mdz> rusty_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement explains the setup
[12:03] <rusty_> ok
[12:14] <rusty_> mdz, shouldn't we have sdk-default-icons in the mobile seed?