gnomefreakok im logged into jabber acocunt i think (dont know how to use it though) one of these days ill figure it out12:28
Admiral_Chicagognomefreak: what is your sn12:28
gnomefreakgnomefreak i think12:29
gnomefreakit just says localhost (0/0)12:29
asacgnomefreak: you could just use gnomefreak@jabber.ccc.de :)12:30
Admiral_Chicagoi'm not seeing you...looking12:30
gnomefreakits says im available12:30
Admiral_Chicagoi'll look again12:30
asacgnomefreak: what domain did you choose?12:30
gnomefreaklocalhost i think12:30
Admiral_ChicagoJABBER - Error: Jabber Error: No such user: "gnomefreak@jabber.ccc.de12:30
gnomefreaktry gnomefreak@localhost12:30
gnomefreakthats it afaict12:31
gnomefreakatleast from the accounts area12:31
Admiral_Chicagotryingto authorize...12:32
asacgnomefreak: you did wrong12:32
asacgnomefreak: you have to create an account at a jabber provider12:32
asaclocalhost won't bring you anywhere12:32
Admiral_Chicagoasac: Admiral_Chicago@jabber.com if you want to add me12:33
Admiral_Chicagoyou it says 404...12:33
asacAdmiral_Chicago: done12:33
asacgnomefreak: localhost is none-sense12:33
asacchoose a provider12:34
Admiral_Chicagogreat, message me so i can authenticate.12:34
asacgnomefreak: http://www.jabber.org/user/publicservers.shtml12:34
asacAdmiral_Chicago: authenticate? GPG you mean?12:34
asacAdmiral_Chicago: you should have received and authorization request already12:34
Admiral_Chicagoi havent got anything12:35
asaci get service-unavailable atm12:35
asacmaybe a temporarily peering problem12:35
asacmy nick is asac@jabber.ccc.de12:35
asacAdmiral_Chicago: yeah ... i have problems with other jabber.com nicks in my list lately as well12:36
gnomefreakok working on it12:38
asacAdmiral_Chicago: i added you to my jabber.org account as well now12:39
asachmm maybe jabber.com has problems? I still get wierd errors even though I am going through jabber.org12:40
asacAdmiral_Chicago: you received anything?12:40
asactry to add asac@jabber.org as well12:40
Admiral_Chicagoasac: brb12:42
gnomefreakok i think im here12:46
gnomefreakhow the hell do i read it12:49
asacgnomefreak: it worked12:51
gnomefreakyep :)12:51
Admiral_Chicagogreat...pidgin crashes on me12:51
gnomefreaki had to remove ~/.gajim12:51
asacgnomefreak: can you please add asac@jabber.ccc.de as well?12:51
Admiral_Chicagooh well. am i online though?12:51
asacgnomefreak: that is my main account12:51
gnomefreakasac: yes12:51
gnomefreakok i sent request12:52
gnomefreakit sent even12:52
asacok i see gnomefreak online ... but not Admiral_Chicago12:53
gnomefreakhe logged off12:53
gnomefreakshould i add gpg key info to this?12:53
asacah ok12:53
asacgnomefreak: if you want :)12:53
asacI use the "Mobile Key"12:54
asacyou should be able to find it by asac@jabber.ccc.de12:54
Admiral_Chicagono i'm on...12:54
gnomefreakdid he log back in12:54
Admiral_Chicagoi'm on but i'm not sure...12:54
Admiral_Chicagosomething is messed up because it makes it look like everyone is offline12:54
gnomefreakyou have away message up when i logged off12:55
gnomefreakit has a 2 next to youa d12:55
asacmy gpg key is DCF833D412:57
asacpub   1024D/DCF833D4 2005-01-27 [expires: 2010-01-26] 12:57
asacuid                  Alexander Sack - Mobile Key - Insecure <asac@jabber.ccc.de>12:57
asacuid                  Alexander Sack (Mobile Key - Insecure) <alex@jwsdot.com>12:57
asacuid                  Alexander Sack (Mobile Key - Insecure) <asac@jabber.org>12:57
asacuid                  Alexander Sack (Mobile Key - Insecure) <asac@jwsdot.com>12:57
asacuid                  Alexander Sack (Mobile Key - Insecure) <asack@c1-fse.de>12:57
asacuid                  Alexander Sack (Mobile Key - Insecure) <asac@jabber.ccc.de>12:58
Admiral_Chicagowhy do i have to keep requesting authorization from people?12:58
ubotujabber is a free and open source instant messaging protocol, unlike MSN and AIM. Supporting clients on Linux: Kopete (KDE), Gaim (GNOME). For more info see http://www.jabber.org12:58
asacAdmiral_Chicago: you usually don't need to12:58
asac... just once12:58
gnomefreaki had to do it 2 for asac and 1 time for Admiral_Chicago12:59
Admiral_Chicagoi think its pidgin.12:59
asacits interesting that the most enhanced clients 'psi' and 'gajim' are not listed there12:59
asacgnomefreak: you did it twice for me because you added jabber.org  + jabber.ccc.de :)12:59
Admiral_Chicagomight be a bug.12:59
gnomefreakoh ok01:00
asacyes gaim is not really enhanced on jabber01:00
asacits good if you use other protocols though01:00
asacif you use kde you would want to use PSI which uses Qt01:00
asacand implements almost all jabber features01:00
asacfor gnome its gajim01:00
Admiral_Chicagoi'll try that...01:00
gnomefreakthis reminds me alot like gaim01:01
asacboth ship gpg support out of the box01:01
asacgnomefreak: yeah i think thats the intention of the name gajim :)01:01
gnomefreak:) good point01:01
asacinterstingly, gaim is now pidgin ... bug gajim stays :)01:02
ubotugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts01:04
Admiral_Chicagoi need to regenerate a key01:04
asaci updated the text a bit01:05
asacbut please lets go over it again tomorrow01:05
asaci just didn't want to loose my changes01:05
asacgnomefreak: ^^^01:06
gnomefreakam i away on jabbas?01:09
gnomefreakjabber even01:12
gnomefreakasac: ok saved your settings locally and we can review it tomorrow or later this week i have a few appointments tomorrow01:13
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asacgnomefreak: yeah you are away :)01:15
gnomefreakyeah i fixed it01:15
asacgajim has some problems recently to detect your activity from X session01:15
asacgnomefreak: Admiral_Chicago do java applets work for you in gutsy?01:16
gnomefreakasac: that java bug from this morning?01:16
asaci mean in general?01:17
gnomefreaki think so01:17
asacdoes java plugin work for you at all01:17
asaccan you verify that please01:17
gnomefreakjava.com works fine here01:17
asacits most important that it works01:17
asacgnomefreak: you can play games?01:18
gnomefreakgive me a few and ill try pogo01:18
gnomefreakwaiting for it to load01:21
gnomefreaktelling me i dont have plugin to play01:22
gnomefreakiirc this works fine in iceape01:23
gnomefreakthats what i was using to play01:23
gnomefreakdid this start with plugin finder update?01:23
gnomefreaksame issue from the bug this morning01:24
gnomefreakstill hasnt tested java5 that will have to wait till tomorrow01:24
gnomefreakok im gone for a while, i might peep in later but i doubt it01:25
Admiral_Chicagoasac: i'm not on Gutdsy yet. i need a stable maching atm01:25
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: does it work on feisty?01:25
Admiral_Chicagonever had a problem with java applets, i'm using java 601:26
gnomefreakmaybe check if it works with java5 and java601:26
gnomefreakor jusdt java601:26
Admiral_Chicagosomeone hava a link?01:26
gnomefreakyeah its on that damn bug01:27
gnomefreakdont remember it though01:27
gnomefreaki just tried pogo.com but you need account01:27
gnomefreakok really gone now01:27
asacfeisty is not what bothers me01:32
asacits just gutsy01:32
asacAdmiral_Chicago: you should be able to test in a gutsy chroot though.01:32
asacbut if you don't want to setup one ... no problem as well.01:33
asacok i am off01:33
asacits late01:33
Admiral_Chicagoi'll have to look at chroors.01:43
Admiral_Chicagoi've never played with chroots01:43
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gnomefreakbug 11995509:46
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119955 in firefox "Firefox responds so slowly " [Low,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11995509:46
gnomefreakasac: iirc you had wanted to change the way iceape builds, while your looking at the conflicts are you gonna change it or are you gonna wait a while?09:59
asaci wanted to change the way iceape builds09:59
asacplease refresh my memory09:59
gnomefreakyou had me grab diffs and post them on my site, you never explained what you were gonna change but you had said you wanted to change it10:02
gnomefreakhere are the diffs incase you forgot and maybe they will refresh your memory http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/10:03
=== gnomefreak trying something stupid but trying anyway
asacgnomefreak: i am sorry ... i am completely lost10:05
asacmaybe we can dig some irc log context, so I can remember?10:06
asacwhen was tah?10:06
gnomefreakwe talked about it that day.10:08
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs10:09
Admiral_Chicagoi think the movement of tabbed windows is greatly improved in Fx trunk10:10
Admiral_Chicagomuch easier to use than a little arrow for all the information10:10
gnomefreakit looks like ubuntulog was offline that day for most of it so there are no longs for it there :(10:15
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=== Admiral_Chicago can look
gnomefreaki believe it was early to mid afternoon my time EST10:15
gnomefreakits only 4:15 :(10:15
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Admiral_Chicagoah no i don't have them...sorry10:17
Admiral_Chicagothere was a two week period when i used konversation, didn't log then10:17
Admiral_Chicagoswitched back to irssi with logging...10:17
asacAdmiral_Chicago: so you are testing trunk ... nice!10:23
asacif you have any issues, bug reports are welcome10:23
asacin fact upstream wants us to provide feedback10:23
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: trunk update in repo btw10:26
Admiral_Chicagobug 118586 is a feature afaik10:26
ubotuLaunchpad bug 118586 in firefox "Firefox halts keyboard scrolling after embedded Flash video" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11858610:26
Admiral_Chicagoflash needs to steal the focus for stuff like games etc.10:26
gnomefreakthat bug was in my inbox this mornig10:26
Admiral_Chicagoi've had no issues so far asac, some UI feedback really10:27
Admiral_Chicagobut i can get to that in the morning....10:27
asacactually i don't have that issue with gnash10:27
gnomefreakis there a cnertal place for feedback or do we report ubgs10:27
asacso i assume its a nonfree-flashplayer issue10:27
asac(though I couldn't verify that its really like the bug report claims)10:27
asacgnomefreak: we report bugs10:28
asacgnomefreak: we have to push firefox-preview10:28
asacso we have a package where we can file bugs in lp against10:28
Admiral_Chicagobasically, when you enter the area of the embedded flash video (could be a sound clip, video game, video)10:28
gnomefreakasac: i have firefox-trunk built for gutsy10:28
Admiral_Chicagoit takes focus i case its like a video game that needs teh arrow keys for example10:28
gnomefreakby mistake but its built10:28
Admiral_Chicagoi'm thinking the way flash is interpreted is one element that can't diffirentiate between the types of content10:29
asacgnomefreak: did you need any modifications?10:29
asac.e.g for latest trunk?10:29
gnomefreakasac: nope10:29
asacor just whats in current bzr10:29
gnomefreakcurrent bzr but built for 2007060810:30
asaci will create a 'preview' branch then ... which we can use to prepare the -preview package10:30
Admiral_Chicagothis is likely due to the way flash player reads embbeded content...but not our issue10:30
asacAdmiral_Chicago: maybe10:30
Admiral_Chicagoi can say +1 that this is a feature10:31
asachowever ... taking the focus without a click (or a mouse-wheel spin) is not nice, right?10:31
gnomefreakasac: renaming the packge will prevent upgrade to succeed10:31
Admiral_Chicagooccurs in Windows XP + firefox10:31
Admiral_Chicagonot sure if it happens in Vista + IE, nor do I care...10:31
asacgnomefreak: its ment to be a separate package ... e.g. people should not automatically upgrade from -trunk to -preview10:31
asacas people that use -trunk want the latest and get regular CVS updates10:32
Admiral_Chicagoasac: from other OSs I can this is expected behavior from flash player.10:32
asacAdmiral_Chicago: feel free to explain that in bug and reject it10:32
Admiral_Chicagowill do10:32
asactell them about game :)10:32
asacif the reporter insists then it should be reassigned to flashplayer-nonfree10:33
Admiral_Chicagoand let them reject it...10:38
gnomefreakis there anyone actively working on flsah bugs?10:39
gnomefreaki havent seen any real actions on them in a long time10:39
asacgnomefreak: me :)10:40
gnomefreakah :)10:40
asacactually i have to touch the package soon10:40
Admiral_Chicagofreddy@omg-gnus:~$ bugnumbers -p flashplugin-nonfree10:40
asaclike in free-flash spec10:40
Admiral_Chicagowhat the heck...10:40
Admiral_Chicagobug 5083910:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 50839 in flashplugin-nonfree "If the mouse is hold on a flash animation keyboard and mouse scrolling stop to work" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5083910:40
Admiral_Chicagodidn't i just reject a similar bug...10:40
Admiral_Chicagolooking now..10:41
Admiral_Chicagoodd that they have upsteam bug tracker10:42
Admiral_Chicagowould bug 49613 be a candidate for high priority...10:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 49613 in flashplugin-nonfree "flash plugin always rendered on top of html" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4961310:43
=== Admiral_Chicago would think so but maybe not...
Admiral_Chicagoi'm going to bed10:43
asacAdmiral_Chicago: night10:45
gnomefreaknight Admiral_Chicago11:10
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hjmfnight Admiral_Chicago, morning the rest of you :)11:11
DarkMageZwith ubuntu feisty. i've got libnspr-dev & libnspr4 & firefox-dev installed but diamond-x plugin runs into a compiler issue with nspr http://pastebin.ca/56099411:12
gnomefreakmorning hjmf11:13
gnomefreakasac: trunk is alpha611:23
gnomefreakatleast that is what it says in help>about11:23
asacyes ... thats next release11:26
gnomefreaknext release will be alpha7 or beta or rc not sure how they do version names like that11:29
gnomefreak6 released already11:29
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asac6 released?11:38
asacis it on ftp servers?11:38
asacafaik we have code freeze today for alpha611:38
asacgnomefreak: ^^ ?11:38
gnomefreakfrom what help>about says its alpha 611:41
gnomefreakMozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9a6pre) Gecko/20070611 GranParadiso/3.0a6pre11:42
gnomefreakmaybe thats pre alpha?11:42
gnomefreakthe release notes page gives a 404 so i was unable to see what has been done11:44
asacyeah ... they bump version info before release11:56
asacanyway its not alpha6 ... since its not released yet11:56
asacthere might still be changes for blockers landing11:56
gnomefreakoh ok11:57
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asacno its ok12:04
asacbut thats the way it works12:04
asacthe bump version before they freeze12:04
gnomefreakah ok12:04
asacand wait if any serious issues pop up before they release12:04
gnomefreakis there a way to tell without going to search mozilla site if its been released or if its pre-release12:05
asacprobably mozillazine news feed should be enough if you don't want to subscribe to mozilla planet12:33
gnomefreakah ok12:34
gnomefreakasac: you may need to hang around for a little it12:37
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gnomefreakthis issue may be really bad12:37
gnomefreakhi bharat86200412:37
gnomefreakbharat862004: try a new profile see if it starts than. is this in feisty?12:38
bharat862004ok let me tell u the whole problem12:38
gnomefreakgood idea12:38
bharat862004i'm using ubuntu 6.06 version... and i can recover back by firefox by replacing with new profile by using this command " mv /.mozilla /.mozilla.bak " ..... and when i install this add-on ("IMAGELIKEOPERA") and after changing the settings of this add-on when i restart my firefox i get this error " error launching browser window:no XBL binding for browser "... i'm using this add-on so images won12:42
bharat862004won't be loaded when i visit adult site.... this is the whole problem now.12:42
bharat862004i have already downlaod the latest version of firefox and its in firefox.tar.gz format.12:43
bharat862004gnomefreak: r u their ???12:44
gnomefreakhave you tried flash and or java to view the images. that extension isnt supported by ubuntu so you would have to file a bug with the maker of that extension. in dapper shouldnt have this issue12:44
gnomefreakbharat862004: yes im typing12:44
bharat862004u mean i cannot use that add-on ??12:44
gnomefreakbharat862004: as for the extension you wont beablet o use it with firefox sinces it stopping it from working.12:45
bharat862004on my ubuntu 6.0612:45
bharat862004gnomefreak: do u have any alternative ?12:45
bharat862004gnomefreak: what if i install the latest version of firefox and then try to use the add-on.... that should work i guess ?12:46
gnomefreakbharat862004: yes its conflicting with something firefox uses. i have never heard of it and im fairly sure you didnt find it at mozilla.com/org so you would have to talk to the extensions writer/maintainer for a fix for that. give me a site you cant view images on and i should beablet o tell you what you need, most of time java or flash work fine12:46
gnomefreakbharat862004: no12:46
gnomefreakbharat862004: the extension is the issue not the version of firefox12:47
bharat862004gnomefreak: i found that add-on on mozilla.com/org site dude12:47
gnomefreakbharat862004: can i have link please12:47
gnomefreakasac: you have link to planet mozilla12:47
gnomefreakty :)12:48
gnomefreakasac: have you heard of the above extension?12:48
bharat862004ok this is the add-on i am talking about link " https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1672 "12:49
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gnomefreakbrb looking12:49
gnomefreakbharat862004: its the same extension version for all of 2.0.0.* releases as well as 1.5.* releases im willing to bet it wont work on 2.0 either.12:51
bharat862004gnomefreak: holy $hit12:51
bharat862004i need that badly12:51
gnomefreakyou need to contact the owner of the extension to help you fix it12:51
bharat862004gnomefreak: i have one doubt do u work for mozilla ????????12:52
gnomefreakbharat862004: we cant support non ubuntu packaged extensions as there are so damn many and alot fo them are written badly or nonfree, ect...12:52
gnomefreakbharat862004: no we are ubuntu-mozilla12:52
gnomefreakbharat862004: mozilla wont support that one either12:53
bharat862004gnomefreak: so u get paid for it right ???12:53
gnomefreakyou need to contact the owner of it12:53
gnomefreakbharat862004: no12:53
bharat862004ok now i hav other problem12:53
gnomefreakwant someone that gets paid for it to repeat what i said?12:53
bharat862004i have downlaoded firefox.tar.gz file coz i cannot download firefox every time separately from repositories.... as i have limited bandwidth usage.... so how do i install from firefox.tar.gz file.... i need to update my firefox12:55
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins12:55
gnomefreakgo to the firefoxnewversion12:55
bharat862004i already have downloaded the file its in *.tar.gz format12:56
gnomefreakbharat862004: read the link it gives you step by step instructions on how to do it (or you can unpack tar cd into new dir and run ./firefox12:56
gnomefreakbharat862004: the link is pretty much copy and paste12:56
bharat862004the command ./firefox is not working dude12:58
bharat862004gnomefreak: u their ??12:59
gnomefreakthan your not cd'ed into the new dir after unpacking it. hint easy way use my repo12:59
gnomefreakbharat862004: i have 2.0 backported to dapper in my repo so when EOS comes for 1.5 branch we can backport itto backport repos01:00
bharat862004u dont understand my problem.... i cannot do that everything... i have limited bandwidht usage re01:00
gnomefreakbharat862004: downloading the tar takes more bacnwidth. but you get the tar unpack it cd into new dir and run ./firefox it will work as i do it here every day01:01
bharat862004ok tell me how to go about from the beginning i have the firefox.tar.gz.... next ???01:02
gnomefreak***MEMORY-WARNING***: firefox-bin[27194] : GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions; memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() has been detected; this program is likely to crash, leak or unexpectedly abort soon...01:02
gnomefreakmight get that but it still runs01:02
bharat862004ok thanks anyways i will go now :)01:03
gnomefreakbharat862004: unpack the tarball tar -zvxf firefox....tar.gz replace firefox.... with name01:03
bharat862004ok tell me01:03
gnomefreakthan cd firefox01:03
gnomefreakif that is name of dir.01:03
bharat862004ok next ?01:03
gnomefreakthan ./firefox01:03
bharat862004where should i run that command "./firefox ?01:04
gnomefreakgnomefreak@GutsyGibbon:~/upstream_ffox/firefox$ ./firefox01:04
gnomefreakyour dirs will be different or might be01:04
gnomefreaksince i made upstream_ffox dir to keep ~/ clean01:05
gnomefreakonce you unpack it you will see a dir named firefox01:05
gnomefreakcd firefox01:05
gnomefreakthan ./firefox01:05
gnomefreakbharat862004: make sure all firefoxs are closed first01:05
bharat862004ok updated.... but got hell lot of warning and error's in the terminal.... $hit01:06
bharat862004trying my luck with the add-on now... wait01:07
gnomefreakbharat862004: its not updated its just running01:07
gnomefreakbharat862004: you would need to follow the instructions on the link i gave above to use extension01:07
gnomefreakor add it to upstream build that you are running but thats harder than it sounds01:08
bharat862004what ??? u mean its not installed... its just running from the firefox folder.... ???????01:08
gnomefreakbharat862004: yes01:08
bharat862004oh no01:09
gnomefreakbharat862004: you HAVE to follow the instructions on the link i gave you to install it01:09
bharat862004ok tell me what 2 do now... i am listening to u01:09
gnomefreakbharat862004: READ the link please01:09
bharat862004ok reading01:10
gnomefreakasac: did you get sunbird built ok?01:10
gnomefreakim catching up on the feeds and looks like there will be a rc201:10
gnomefreakoh that cant be good. seamonkey branding is no longer free   << as in firefox or tbirds01:12
asacgnomefreak: yeah :)01:15
bharat862004gnomefreak: thats a pretty long procedure they have mentioned just to update or install the latest version of firefox... :(01:15
asacgnomefreak: i remember exactly how the seamonkey council swear that it will stay free01:15
asaci said ' i don't believe you, we are going iceape'01:16
gnomefreakbharat862004: its not suppported by ubuntu so it wont be too easy01:16
asacthey said: trust me01:16
asaci said: like we trust your previously firefox branding policy? no go!01:16
gnomefreaki thought they were keeping it free too01:16
gnomefreakthis blows chunks01:16
asacbharat862004: why don't you use our package?01:16
bharat862004so i cannot install or update my existing verion of firefox in ubuntu 6.06... right ?01:16
gnomefreakasac: bandwidth he said01:16
gnomefreakbharat862004: not unless you use our repo or wait untill its backported01:17
asacbharat862004: are you a brave guy ... or just want to have a stable environment ? ... otherwise you could try our dapper backport :)01:17
asace.g. try backports if you feel brave01:17
gnomefreakasac: he thinks it will help his extension01:17
bharat862004ok i am ready to use the repository method also ... tell me ?01:17
asacwhat kind of extension is that?01:17
gnomefreakthe extension is trash01:17
asacbharat862004: be warned ... it might upgrade a lot applications for you01:18
bharat862004ok i'm not bothered about my extension now... just wanna update the firefox.... that's it :)01:18
gnomefreakasac: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/167201:18
asacbharat862004: what version do you want?01:18
bharat862004latest version....01:18
asacso latest 1.5.0.x version is not latest for you?01:19
bharat862004hope that does not take to much time to update firefox :)01:19
asacyou want latest 2.0.0.x ?01:19
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asacbharat862004: if you don't have time better don't use our repos01:19
bharat862004asac: yes... i guess that suppose to be the latest ? isnt it ?01:19
asacdepends :)01:19
bharat862004asac: I HAVE TIME01:19
asac1.5.0.12 is latest 1.5 version01:20
asac2.0.0.4 is latest 2.0 version01:20
asac3.0 alpha5 is latest 3.0 version :)01:20
DarkMageZplugin isn't 3.0 happy01:20
bharat862004asac: stop playing games now :)01:20
gnomefreakah its .301:20
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asacshould work01:22
asacbharat862004: if you add our repo, do an apt-get update01:22
gnomefreakwill find out this afternoon01:22
asacthen do a apt-get dist-upgrade01:22
asacbut DON'T confirm that you want to go ahead01:23
DarkMageZum, dappers handling of control files is lesser than feistys. so no $source-version01:23
asacshow us what apt wants to do, so we can at least see if something obvious break01:23
DarkMageZand other things like that01:23
gnomefreakDarkMageZ: i already backported :)01:23
asacgnomefreak: yes ... right ... we needed to fix control01:23
gnomefreakasac: yep01:23
gnomefreakiirc we had to do that with .3 as well01:24
gnomefreakit was the - and : change iirc01:24
DarkMageZis there any news on if the ubuntu guys are going to start building their apps against libxul instead of firefox? so you'll beable to break firefox api/abi with cool updates without breaking their apps?01:25
bharat862004ok guys i give up... i am sticking to my default version of firefox.... :)01:28
DarkMageZbharat862004, what was your problem with that plugin? i've been playing around with it for afew minutes.01:29
bharat862004nothing much :)01:29
=== gnomefreak wouldnt call firefox failing to start nothing much
bharat862004sometimes linux is screwed up... but still i like linux dont know y... :(01:30
bharat862004is their anything u would like to say before i leave O:-)01:34
DarkMageZit's probably time for a clean install. careful with admin apps & commands as they can and will do damage if used incorrectly.01:35
DarkMageZfeisty has lots of bug fixes and cool new stuff like flash 901:36
DarkMageZand firefox 2 :P01:36
bharat862004i recently installed ubuntu.... so its already clean :P01:36
bharat862004not concerned about firefox 2 :P01:36
gnomefreakasac: do you read planet ubuntu?01:37
DarkMageZif firefox is crashing on startup, something is wrong. have you managed to remove that plugin?01:37
bharat862004mv /.moziila /.mozilla.bak01:37
bharat862004by changing the profile01:37
bharat862004isnt that the correct way ???????01:37
DarkMageZthat'll do01:38
bharat862004bot isnt working ??01:39
DarkMageZum, ubotu serves different purposes here.01:39
DarkMageZbug #12301:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 123 in rosetta "There's no direct way to see the project info when translating it" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12301:40
asacgnomefreak: no ... if there is important news, please let me know .)01:44
gnomefreaksomething on mozembed but its just a work around01:44
gnomefreakill get you link01:44
gnomefreaknot sure if it is same issue or not but here is the blog on it http://skunkyjay.wordpress.com/2007/06/10/mozilla-embeded-error-resolved/01:46
DarkMageZcould also be this? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13718901:48
ubotuMozilla bug 137189 in Plug-ins "Windowless plug-in support for X (WMODE)" [Normal,Assigned] 01:48
asacgnomefreak: i posted a comment :)01:56
gnomefreakk ill look in a bit01:56
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redmonkeyi cannot run thunderbird anymore. i recieve a segmentation fault as soon as i start it :(02:00
gnomefreaki hate the use of the word resolved in his comment.02:00
gnomefreakredmonkey: extensions/addons/themes installed?02:00
redmonkeyonly root is able to run it without crashing it02:00
redmonkeygnomefreak: nothing02:00
redmonkeyi also tried to delete /home/myname/.mozilla-thunderbird completely. but it didnt help02:01
gnomefreakasac: not under your name you didnt (atleast on his blog02:01
gnomefreakredmonkey: try running it in safe mode02:01
redmonkeygnomefreak: ok, how?02:01
gnomefreakthunderbird -safe-mode i think02:02
redmonkeyWarning: unrecognized command line flag -save-mode02:03
gnomefreakredmonkey: or mozilla-thunderbird -safe-mode02:03
gnomefreakredmonkey: you have typo02:03
redmonkeyoops sorry02:03
redmonkeydidnt work. same error:02:03
redmonkeyDOUBLE-CLICK: 300 --> -1 THRESHOLD: 8 --> -1 Segmentation fault (core dumped)02:03
gnomefreakredmonkey: what version of ubuntu what version of tbird?02:05
redmonkeyubuntu 7.04 thunderbird (from the repos)02:06
gnomefreakredmonkey: can you file a bug report and attach the crash report in /var/crash so we can better find what is going on with it. did it work at all with that version?02:07
gnomefreakasac: maybe wordpress needs a while to update02:08
redmonkeyyes, it worked without any problems before02:09
gnomefreakbefore the .12 update?02:09
redmonkeyfile a bug report.. uh-oh, i never did that before02:09
gnomefreakor worked with .12 for a while than just stopped?02:09
gnomefreak!bugs | redmonkey02:10
uboturedmonkey: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots02:10
gnomefreakit should prety much walk you through it. you will have to submit the bug before you can attach teh log file02:10
redmonkeyit worked without any problems in the last version. then i couldnt start it anymore. a few days later i updated to .12 to check if the bug has been fixed, but it hasnt.02:11
redmonkeybut why am i able to run it as root?02:12
gnomefreakwell the easy things that were asked didnt help. please file bug and attach the file, the file is gonna be needed. not sure maybe root bypasses your profile02:13
=== gnomefreak dont run apps as root unless i have to its a bad habit to get into
=== gnomefreak is gonna need to go soon (im hoping to get dappers ffox started but not looking too good atm
gnomefreakthat is odd when version is (= 2:1.fire...$(Source-Version) but when it uses >= its (Source:Version)02:19
gnomefreakmaybe its just me that finds that weird02:20
gnomefreakok im out for a bit i got a few hours before i can start on it anyway02:23
redmonkeyseems like that bug has already been reported:02:28
ubotuLaunchpad bug 72332 in mozilla-thunderbird "thunderbird crashes on start" [Medium,Confirmed] 02:28
ubotuLaunchpad bug 70649 in mozilla-thunderbird "Thunderbird crash" [Medium,Needs info] 02:29
redmonkeyit describes it extactly02:30
hjmfhmm, redmonkey attached his report to an existing bug, weird he should open a new one (easier for me)... retracing03:23
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=== hjmf hates when a reporter attachs his crash report to an existing thread, more if that thread is old and is about to be closed soon :( !!!
hjmfbug 7064904:15
ubotuLaunchpad bug 70649 in thunderbird "Thunderbird crashes after finishing the creation of an email account (dup-of: 115602)" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7064904:15
ubotuLaunchpad bug 115602 in thunderbird "MASTER thunderbird crashed [@nsHTMLReflowState::CalcLineHeight]  [@nsBlockReflowState] " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11560204:15
hjmfone hour for doing the OP's retraces on a edgy chroot trying to get a good one with such old report and the same again for the new one in feisty chroot damn! how easy would have been if redmonkey just have opened a new crash report04:17
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asachjmf: we cannot care for everyone04:48
asacjust ignore that report04:49
gnomefreak--enable-system-myspell \   thats a good thing :(06:08
gnomefreakwe really need a damn patch system for pre gutsy firefox06:09
gnomefreakasac: do you remember what you changed to fix myspell errors during build?06:11
gnomefreaktrying something to fix this06:15
asaci don't remember ... are you updating dapper backport?06:21
asacgnomefreak: ^^?06:21
gnomefreakusing feisty source to do it but yes06:21
gnomefreaki just installed libmyspell-dev to see if that was problem06:22
asacgnomefreak: do you still have the last package?06:29
asacgnomefreak:  better use the diff.gz from that and apply the patch on top of an extracted fresh upstream tarball06:30
asacgnomefreak: actuallyl i think that i should update it ... there have been some patches applied upstream, which now need some work to make our patches work seemlessly with it06:32
gnomefreakk go for it. i have it building but im getting ready to walk out the door for a while06:35
asacnot today :)06:36
gnomefreakno its not important06:36
asac@now new york06:40
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asacok ... i am out for today .... this took my energy for today: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/gnash/0.8.0~cvs20070611.1016-1ubuntu107:20
JenFragglelooks complicated07:26
JenFraggleI'm looking at the MozillaTeam wiki for newbie friendliness07:26
asacJenFraggle: yeah ... go ahead :)07:28
Admiral_ChicagoJenFraggle: I'm thinking of beefing up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Proceduces07:31
Admiral_Chicagoyes Precedures..07:32
Admiral_Chicagoi'm not on today..07:32
JenFraggleit's a bit small07:33
JenFragglei'm off out now but will mark it as another page to look at.  will make some notes and get back to you07:33
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gnomefreakasac: it might build08:04
gnomefreakasac: salty-horse has a question about a bug iirc i just came home to pick up a phone number and im out again :)08:05
salty-horsehi. about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/82168 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/113683 -- in retrospect, I think the real problem is that mozilla products don't use the "east-west / north-south resize" mouse cursors - I can't find a screenshot tool that captures the cursor. if you still need a screenshot, can you assist me with this?08:07
ubotuLaunchpad bug 82168 in firefox "autoscroll shows the "resize up" cursor" [Medium,Confirmed] 08:07
asacsalty-horse: i am out ... can you be here tomorrow? ... at best a few hours earlier?08:11
asacactuallyl i am in conference now, but then out directly08:11
salty-horseasac, this is my "home" time. i'll try :) - or you could just comment on the bugs :)08:12
salty-horsei don't want to disturb08:12
asacbug 11368308:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 113683 in firefox "hovering over splitter widget sets incorrect cursor (dup-of: 82168)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11368308:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 82168 in firefox "autoscroll shows the "resize up" cursor" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8216808:31
asacbug 8216808:31
asacah ... now i remember08:31
asacit should definitly be pushed upstream08:31
asaci mean its probably not ubuntu specific08:31
asacsalty-horse: ^^^08:31
asacsalty-horse: i will try to verify your horizontal/vertical scrollbar rule08:31
asacsalty-horse: did you ever find a case where this rule doesn't hold?08:32
asacsalty-horse: looks like you found the right rule08:33
asacsalty-horse: wierd ... thanks08:33
salty-horseyes. see the bugs. in the bookmark/history sidebar resize (vertical), in thunderbird's email list/preview seperator, in the middle-click scroll wheel (when the page only has one of the scrollbars - otherwise it's the correct hand icon08:34
salty-horsei'm using gnome - maybe it's worth checking in kde08:36
asacAdmiral_Chicago: can you test bug 82168 ?08:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 82168 in firefox "autoscroll shows the "resize up" cursor" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8216808:37
asacAdmiral_Chicago: on kde :)08:37
asacsalty-horse: ok thanks for following up. i will look at the duplicate tomorrow08:39
asaci am now out08:39
salty-horseAdmiral_Chicago, it's easier to check with the sidebar resizer.08:39
salty-horsethanks asac08:39
Admiral_Chicagoi need a page to upload too and can't remember the image site..08:56
Admiral_Chicagoimageshack.us works..08:57
Admiral_Chicagoasac: http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7939/reproduceddo4.png08:57
salty-horsei'm missing an app to screenshot the cursor, not to host (I can attach the image to the launchpad bug)08:57
Admiral_Chicagoyea i can reproduce it08:57
salty-horseshould one bug be DUPLICATEd?09:01
Admiral_Chicagowhat do ou mean09:02
salty-horsei reported two bugs on the subject: 82168 and 11368309:03
Admiral_Chicagoyea the screen shot thing didn't get teh cursor09:03
Admiral_Chicagomark the older one as a dup of the younger one09:03
Admiral_Chicagoerr the other way around...09:03
salty-horsebtw, how does your screenshot show the bug? :)09:04
salty-horseoh, you answered :)09:04
Admiral_Chicagowell i'll try in a vm, that may work09:06
Admiral_Chicagoi think it has to do with the way the mouse is drawn09:06
gnomefreakok im back for a while i think09:42
gnomefreakasac: did i miss something? Accepted iceape 1.1.1+u2-0ubuntu1 (source) (Ubuntu Installer)  thought pitti rejected it or did you upload again?09:46
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gnomefreak@schedule new_york10:54
ubotuSchedule for America/New_York: 13 Jun 08:00: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 12:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 16 Jun 13:00: Xubuntu Developers | 19 Jun 15:00: Technical Board | 20 Jun 16:00: Edubuntu | 21 Jun 14:00: Mozilla Team10:54
gnomefreakok our meeting is set up10:54
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gnomefreakif anyone has agenda items please add them.11:00
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: did you just change your status on jabber?11:03
gnomefreaki just got a little bit of music cant figure out what it was from11:03
Admiral_Chicagognomefreak: yea it was me, i launced gaim.11:04
gnomefreakah ok ty11:04
Admiral_Chicagoplaying with getting psi to work11:04
Admiral_ChicagoJenFraggle: if you feel adventureous, dansguardian could use a clue file11:04
Admiral_ChicagoJenFraggle: http://pastebin.ca/56261111:05
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asacgnomefreak: i fixed and uploaded iceape11:32
asacand pushed pitti to let it in :)11:32
asaci will push the new remove.nonfree script11:32
asaconce binaries are NEWed as well we need to push 1.1.311:33
asacor whatever the latest is11:33
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gnomefreakmight want to build it before you upload it ;)11:38
asacgnomefreak: oh i think i messed it up :)11:39
asaceither its debian version ... or the new tarball still contains the binaries :)11:39
asacyes 1.1.1 is what we have atm11:39
asacwe should definitly prepare 1.1.2 :)11:40
asacand upload as soon as 1.1.1 gets binary NEWed11:40
asaclet me fix this :)11:40
gnomefreakthat way its never noticed lol11:40
gnomefreak1.1.2 isnt gonna be easy although most of it is removing patches. let me know if my patch applies ok please11:41
asacwhich patch?11:42
asacah your menu patch? hope its actually in atm11:42
asaclet me see as soon as tree was cleaned here11:42
gnomefreakits in my branch11:42
asacah ok11:42
gnomefreakthink we have 3 iceeape branches11:42
asaclet me first sync here11:42
asacok i updated mozilla team debian.1.1.x branch11:45
gnomefreakwasent debian.1.1.x already updated with mikes changes11:46
gnomefreakthat should be wasnt11:46
asacgnomefreak: can you look what you have as 1.1.1-3 in changelog11:51
asace.g. what text11:52
gnomefreakwhat one11:53
gnomefreakthere are 9 releases of that11:53
gnomefreakgive or take 111:53
gnomefreakill pastebin all11:53
asaci already found it11:54
gnomefreaki guess we combined them11:54
asacapparently mike wiped 1.1.1-311:54
asacchanglog entry11:54
asacby bumping to 1.1.2-111:54
asacand adding more content to it11:54
asace.g. see11:54
gnomefreaki saw that11:55
gnomefreakhe started at 1.1.1-3 than moved to -2 thats why we got all screed up11:55
gnomefreakscrewed up11:55
asac39902 vs. 3991711:55
asaci think 1.1.1-3 was never released to debian11:55
asacso its valid11:55
gnomefreakwe got it from experimental than they killed it and released 1.1.1-2 to sid iirc11:56
JenFraggleI've copied the states and tags wiki pages and am working my way through checking them.  seems funny being written in american rather than english11:58
asacthis is really messy11:59
asaci mean fixing this changelog mess11:59
gnomefreakhis or ours?11:59
asacthis changelog merge mess i mean12:00
asacproblem is i pushed changes to ubuntu ... and to debian12:00
asacunder different version numbers12:00
asac.e.g using different versions ... so shall i duplicate changelog entries now?12:00
asaci think yes, since the changes were not really applied :/12:00
gnomefreakwait our changes you pushed to debian were never applied?12:01
asacyeah i think i had a bad day yesterday :)12:02
asaci pushed a bad version to debian svn ;)12:02
asacmaybe i should stop being online for a while12:02
asacas mike will definitly laugh at me ;)12:02
gnomefreakit happens to all of us12:03
asachehe was just kidding12:03
asaci used -212:03
asacthough it should have been -12:03
asace.g. the version12:03
gnomefreakwhy -1 if mikes is -212:04
asacyeah look12:04
gnomefreakor is it because of version name12:04
asacits because i bumped upstream version12:04
gnomefreakah ok12:05
asacbecause that change means it needs a new orig12:05
asacok mozillateam branch for ubuntu-1.1.x is now up to date12:11
asacyou can merge changes to your branch :)12:12
gnomefreakok will try12:13
asacgnomefreak: what is the revision i should merge to mozillateam branch?12:15
asacfrom yours?12:15
asace.g. to get the prefs?12:15
gnomefreaklet me look12:15
asaci would like to prepare 1.1.2.dfsg1-2ubuntu1  so i can directly push it tomorrow12:16
gnomefreak79for patch 80 for changelog12:16
gnomefreaki have comflicts i need to resolve12:16
asaci think most conflicts you can just resolve by copying the .OTHER file to the real name12:18
asacwhich conflicts do you have?12:18
gnomefreaki havent looked at it yet12:19
asaconly changelog?12:25
gnomefreakyeah i think that was my screw up12:26
gnomefreakim merging now lets see what happens12:26
gnomefreakit seems the changelog entry i pushed to my branch conflicts with yours you just pushed how do i remover a pushed entry in my branch12:27
asacgnomefreak: look in changelog12:27

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