[12:28] ok im logged into jabber acocunt i think (dont know how to use it though) one of these days ill figure it out [12:28] gnomefreak: what is your sn [12:29] gnomefreak i think [12:29] it just says localhost (0/0) [12:30] gnomefreak: you could just use gnomefreak@jabber.ccc.de :) [12:30] i'm not seeing you...looking [12:30] its says im available [12:30] i'll look again [12:30] gnomefreak: what domain did you choose? [12:30] localhost i think [12:30] JABBER - Error: Jabber Error: No such user: "gnomefreak@jabber.ccc.de [12:30] try gnomefreak@localhost [12:31] gnomefreak@localhost [12:31] thats it afaict [12:31] atleast from the accounts area [12:32] tryingto authorize... [12:32] gnomefreak: you did wrong [12:32] gnomefreak: you have to create an account at a jabber provider [12:32] localhost won't bring you anywhere [12:33] asac: Admiral_Chicago@jabber.com if you want to add me [12:33] you it says 404... [12:33] Admiral_Chicago: done [12:33] gnomefreak: localhost is none-sense [12:34] choose a provider [12:34] great, message me so i can authenticate. [12:34] gnomefreak: http://www.jabber.org/user/publicservers.shtml [12:34] Admiral_Chicago: authenticate? GPG you mean? [12:34] Admiral_Chicago: you should have received and authorization request already [12:35] sure... [12:35] i havent got anything [12:35] hmmm [12:35] bbbiab [12:35] i get service-unavailable atm [12:35] maybe a temporarily peering problem [12:35] my nick is asac@jabber.ccc.de [12:36] Admiral_Chicago: yeah ... i have problems with other jabber.com nicks in my list lately as well [12:38] ok working on it [12:39] Admiral_Chicago: i added you to my jabber.org account as well now [12:40] hmm maybe jabber.com has problems? I still get wierd errors even though I am going through jabber.org [12:40] Admiral_Chicago: you received anything? [12:40] try to add asac@jabber.org as well [12:42] asac: brb [12:46] ok i think im here [12:47] gnomefreak@jabber.org [12:49] how the hell do i read it [12:51] gnomefreak: it worked [12:51] yep :) [12:51] great...pidgin crashes on me [12:51] i had to remove ~/.gajim [12:51] gnomefreak: can you please add asac@jabber.ccc.de as well? [12:51] oh well. am i online though? [12:51] gnomefreak: that is my main account [12:51] asac: yes [12:52] ok i sent request [12:52] it sent even [12:53] ok i see gnomefreak online ... but not Admiral_Chicago [12:53] he logged off [12:53] should i add gpg key info to this? [12:53] ah ok [12:53] gnomefreak: if you want :) [12:54] I use the "Mobile Key" [12:54] you should be able to find it by asac@jabber.ccc.de [12:54] no i'm on... [12:54] did he log back in [12:54] i'm on but i'm not sure... [12:54] something is messed up because it makes it look like everyone is offline [12:55] you have away message up when i logged off [12:55] it has a 2 next to youa d [12:55] Admiral_Chicago: [12:57] my gpg key is DCF833D4 [12:57] pub 1024D/DCF833D4 2005-01-27 [expires: 2010-01-26] [12:57] uid Alexander Sack - Mobile Key - Insecure [12:57] uid Alexander Sack (Mobile Key - Insecure) [12:57] uid Alexander Sack (Mobile Key - Insecure) [12:57] uid Alexander Sack (Mobile Key - Insecure) [12:57] uid Alexander Sack (Mobile Key - Insecure) [12:58] uid Alexander Sack (Mobile Key - Insecure) [12:58] why do i have to keep requesting authorization from people? [12:58] !jabber [12:58] jabber is a free and open source instant messaging protocol, unlike MSN and AIM. Supporting clients on Linux: Kopete (KDE), Gaim (GNOME). For more info see http://www.jabber.org [12:58] Admiral_Chicago: you usually don't need to [12:58] ... just once [12:59] i had to do it 2 for asac and 1 time for Admiral_Chicago [12:59] i think its pidgin. [12:59] its interesting that the most enhanced clients 'psi' and 'gajim' are not listed there [12:59] gnomefreak: you did it twice for me because you added jabber.org + jabber.ccc.de :) [12:59] might be a bug. [01:00] oh ok [01:00] yes gaim is not really enhanced on jabber [01:00] its good if you use other protocols though [01:00] if you use kde you would want to use PSI which uses Qt [01:00] and implements almost all jabber features [01:00] for gnome its gajim [01:00] i'll try that... [01:01] this reminds me alot like gaim [01:01] both ship gpg support out of the box [01:01] gnomefreak: yeah i think thats the intention of the name gajim :) [01:01] :) good point [01:02] interstingly, gaim is now pidgin ... bug gajim stays :) [01:02] yep [01:04] !gpg [01:04] gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts [01:04] i need to regenerate a key [01:04] http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/559905 [01:05] i updated the text a bit [01:05] but please lets go over it again tomorrow [01:05] i just didn't want to loose my changes [01:06] gnomefreak: ^^^ [01:07] k [01:09] am i away on jabbas? [01:12] jabber even [01:13] asac: ok saved your settings locally and we can review it tomorrow or later this week i have a few appointments tomorrow === gnomefreak will shut repo down tonight most likely to upload trunk update [01:15] gnomefreak: yeah you are away :) [01:15] yeah i fixed it [01:15] gajim has some problems recently to detect your activity from X session [01:16] gnomefreak: Admiral_Chicago do java applets work for you in gutsy? [01:16] asac: that java bug from this morning? [01:17] no [01:17] i mean in general? [01:17] i think so [01:17] does java plugin work for you at all [01:17] can you verify that please [01:17] java.com works fine here [01:17] its most important that it works [01:18] gnomefreak: you can play games? [01:18] give me a few and ill try pogo [01:21] waiting for it to load [01:22] mother [01:22] telling me i dont have plugin to play [01:23] iirc this works fine in iceape [01:23] thats what i was using to play [01:23] did this start with plugin finder update? [01:24] same issue from the bug this morning [01:24] still hasnt tested java5 that will have to wait till tomorrow [01:25] ok im gone for a while, i might peep in later but i doubt it [01:25] asac: i'm not on Gutdsy yet. i need a stable maching atm [01:25] Admiral_Chicago: does it work on feisty? [01:26] never had a problem with java applets, i'm using java 6 [01:26] maybe check if it works with java5 and java6 [01:26] or jusdt java6 [01:26] someone hava a link? [01:27] yeah its on that damn bug [01:27] dont remember it though [01:27] i just tried pogo.com but you need account [01:27] ok really gone now [01:32] feisty is not what bothers me [01:32] its just gutsy [01:32] Admiral_Chicago: you should be able to test in a gutsy chroot though. [01:33] but if you don't want to setup one ... no problem as well. [01:33] ok i am off [01:33] its late [01:33] night [01:43] i'll have to look at chroors. [01:43] i've never played with chroots === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === smcgraw [n=shane@12-216-188-54.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:46] bug 119955 [09:46] Launchpad bug 119955 in firefox "Firefox responds so slowly " [Low,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119955 [09:59] asac: iirc you had wanted to change the way iceape builds, while your looking at the conflicts are you gonna change it or are you gonna wait a while? [09:59] i wanted to change the way iceape builds [09:59] ?? [09:59] please refresh my memory [10:02] you had me grab diffs and post them on my site, you never explained what you were gonna change but you had said you wanted to change it [10:03] here are the diffs incase you forgot and maybe they will refresh your memory http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/ === gnomefreak trying something stupid but trying anyway [10:05] gnomefreak: i am sorry ... i am completely lost [10:06] maybe we can dig some irc log context, so I can remember? [10:06] when was tah? [10:08] 2007-04-24 [10:08] we talked about it that day. [10:09] !logs [10:09] Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs [10:10] i think the movement of tabbed windows is greatly improved in Fx trunk [10:10] much easier to use than a little arrow for all the information [10:15] it looks like ubuntulog was offline that day for most of it so there are no longs for it there :( === gnomefreak doesnt have logs that far back === Admiral_Chicago can look [10:15] i believe it was early to mid afternoon my time EST [10:15] its only 4:15 :( === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp167-203.lns4.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [10:17] ah no i don't have them...sorry [10:17] there was a two week period when i used konversation, didn't log then [10:17] switched back to irssi with logging... [10:23] Admiral_Chicago: so you are testing trunk ... nice! [10:23] if you have any issues, bug reports are welcome [10:23] in fact upstream wants us to provide feedback [10:26] Admiral_Chicago: trunk update in repo btw [10:26] bug 118586 is a feature afaik [10:26] Launchpad bug 118586 in firefox "Firefox halts keyboard scrolling after embedded Flash video" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118586 [10:26] flash needs to steal the focus for stuff like games etc. [10:26] that bug was in my inbox this mornig [10:27] i've had no issues so far asac, some UI feedback really [10:27] but i can get to that in the morning.... [10:27] actually i don't have that issue with gnash [10:27] is there a cnertal place for feedback or do we report ubgs [10:27] so i assume its a nonfree-flashplayer issue [10:27] (though I couldn't verify that its really like the bug report claims) [10:28] gnomefreak: we report bugs [10:28] gnomefreak: we have to push firefox-preview [10:28] so we have a package where we can file bugs in lp against [10:28] basically, when you enter the area of the embedded flash video (could be a sound clip, video game, video) [10:28] asac: i have firefox-trunk built for gutsy [10:28] it takes focus i case its like a video game that needs teh arrow keys for example [10:28] by mistake but its built [10:29] i'm thinking the way flash is interpreted is one element that can't diffirentiate between the types of content [10:29] gnomefreak: did you need any modifications? [10:29] .e.g for latest trunk? [10:29] asac: nope [10:29] or just whats in current bzr [10:29] good [10:30] current bzr but built for 20070608 [10:30] i will create a 'preview' branch then ... which we can use to prepare the -preview package [10:30] this is likely due to the way flash player reads embbeded content...but not our issue [10:30] Admiral_Chicago: maybe [10:31] i can say +1 that this is a feature [10:31] however ... taking the focus without a click (or a mouse-wheel spin) is not nice, right? [10:31] asac: renaming the packge will prevent upgrade to succeed [10:31] occurs in Windows XP + firefox [10:31] not sure if it happens in Vista + IE, nor do I care... [10:31] gnomefreak: its ment to be a separate package ... e.g. people should not automatically upgrade from -trunk to -preview [10:31] k [10:32] as people that use -trunk want the latest and get regular CVS updates [10:32] asac: from other OSs I can this is expected behavior from flash player. [10:32] Admiral_Chicago: feel free to explain that in bug and reject it [10:32] will do [10:32] tell them about game :) [10:33] if the reporter insists then it should be reassigned to flashplayer-nonfree [10:38] done [10:38] and let them reject it... [10:39] is there anyone actively working on flsah bugs? [10:39] i havent seen any real actions on them in a long time [10:40] gnomefreak: me :) [10:40] ah :) [10:40] actually i have to touch the package soon [10:40] freddy@omg-gnus:~$ bugnumbers -p flashplugin-nonfree [10:40] like in free-flash spec [10:40] what the heck... [10:40] bug 50839 [10:40] Launchpad bug 50839 in flashplugin-nonfree "If the mouse is hold on a flash animation keyboard and mouse scrolling stop to work" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50839 [10:40] didn't i just reject a similar bug... [10:41] looking now.. [10:42] odd that they have upsteam bug tracker [10:43] would bug 49613 be a candidate for high priority... [10:43] Launchpad bug 49613 in flashplugin-nonfree "flash plugin always rendered on top of html" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49613 === Admiral_Chicago would think so but maybe not... [10:43] i'm going to bed [10:45] Admiral_Chicago: night [11:10] night Admiral_Chicago === gnomefreak knows im late [11:11] night Admiral_Chicago, morning the rest of you :) [11:12] with ubuntu feisty. i've got libnspr-dev & libnspr4 & firefox-dev installed but diamond-x plugin runs into a compiler issue with nspr http://pastebin.ca/560994 [11:13] morning hjmf [11:23] asac: trunk is alpha6 [11:23] atleast that is what it says in help>about [11:26] yes ... thats next release [11:29] next release will be alpha7 or beta or rc not sure how they do version names like that [11:29] 6 released already === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [11:38] 6 released? [11:38] is it on ftp servers? [11:38] afaik we have code freeze today for alpha6 [11:38] gnomefreak: ^^ ? [11:41] from what help>about says its alpha 6 [11:42] Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9a6pre) Gecko/20070611 GranParadiso/3.0a6pre [11:42] maybe thats pre alpha? [11:44] the release notes page gives a 404 so i was unable to see what has been done [11:56] yeah ... they bump version info before release [11:56] anyway its not alpha6 ... since its not released yet [11:56] there might still be changes for blockers landing [11:57] oh ok === gnomefreak trusted what i read, next time i rethink it ;) [12:04] no its ok [12:04] but thats the way it works [12:04] the bump version before they freeze [12:04] ah ok [12:04] and wait if any serious issues pop up before they release [12:05] is there a way to tell without going to search mozilla site if its been released or if its pre-release [12:33] blog [12:33] probably mozillazine news feed should be enough if you don't want to subscribe to mozilla planet [12:34] ah ok [12:37] asac: you may need to hang around for a little it [12:37] bit === bharat862004 [n=bharat@122.167.187.153] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [12:37] this issue may be really bad [12:37] hi bharat862004 [12:37] hi [12:38] bharat862004: try a new profile see if it starts than. is this in feisty? [12:38] ok let me tell u the whole problem [12:38] good idea [12:42] i'm using ubuntu 6.06 version... and i can recover back by firefox by replacing with new profile by using this command " mv /.mozilla /.mozilla.bak " ..... and when i install this add-on ("IMAGELIKEOPERA") and after changing the settings of this add-on when i restart my firefox i get this error " error launching browser window:no XBL binding for browser "... i'm using this add-on so images won [12:42] won't be loaded when i visit adult site.... this is the whole problem now. [12:43] i have already downlaod the latest version of firefox and its in firefox.tar.gz format. [12:44] gnomefreak: r u their ??? [12:44] have you tried flash and or java to view the images. that extension isnt supported by ubuntu so you would have to file a bug with the maker of that extension. in dapper 1.5.0.12 shouldnt have this issue [12:44] bharat862004: yes im typing [12:44] u mean i cannot use that add-on ?? [12:45] bharat862004: as for the extension you wont beablet o use it with firefox sinces it stopping it from working. [12:45] on my ubuntu 6.06 [12:45] gnomefreak: do u have any alternative ? [12:46] gnomefreak: what if i install the latest version of firefox and then try to use the add-on.... that should work i guess ? [12:46] bharat862004: yes its conflicting with something firefox uses. i have never heard of it and im fairly sure you didnt find it at mozilla.com/org so you would have to talk to the extensions writer/maintainer for a fix for that. give me a site you cant view images on and i should beablet o tell you what you need, most of time java or flash work fine [12:46] bharat862004: no [12:47] bharat862004: the extension is the issue not the version of firefox [12:47] gnomefreak: i found that add-on on mozilla.com/org site dude [12:47] bharat862004: can i have link please [12:47] ok [12:47] asac: you have link to planet mozilla [12:48] http://planet.mozilla.org/ [12:48] ty :) [12:48] asac: have you heard of the above extension? [12:49] ok this is the add-on i am talking about link " https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1672 " === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp167-203.lns4.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [12:49] brb looking [12:49] ok [12:51] bharat862004: its the same extension version for all of 2.0.0.* releases as well as 1.5.* releases im willing to bet it wont work on 2.0 either. [12:51] gnomefreak: holy $hit [12:51] i need that badly [12:51] you need to contact the owner of the extension to help you fix it [12:52] gnomefreak: i have one doubt do u work for mozilla ???????? [12:52] bharat862004: we cant support non ubuntu packaged extensions as there are so damn many and alot fo them are written badly or nonfree, ect... [12:52] bharat862004: no we are ubuntu-mozilla [12:53] bharat862004: mozilla wont support that one either [12:53] gnomefreak: so u get paid for it right ??? [12:53] you need to contact the owner of it [12:53] bharat862004: no [12:53] ok now i hav other problem [12:53] want someone that gets paid for it to repeat what i said? [12:55] i have downlaoded firefox.tar.gz file coz i cannot download firefox every time separately from repositories.... as i have limited bandwidth usage.... so how do i install from firefox.tar.gz file.... i need to update my firefox [12:55] !firefox [12:55] firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins [12:55] go to the firefoxnewversion [12:55] link [12:56] i already have downloaded the file its in *.tar.gz format [12:56] bharat862004: read the link it gives you step by step instructions on how to do it (or you can unpack tar cd into new dir and run ./firefox [12:56] bharat862004: the link is pretty much copy and paste [12:58] the command ./firefox is not working dude [12:59] gnomefreak: u their ?? [12:59] than your not cd'ed into the new dir after unpacking it. hint easy way use my repo [01:00] bharat862004: i have 2.0 backported to dapper in my repo so when EOS comes for 1.5 branch we can backport itto backport repos [01:00] u dont understand my problem.... i cannot do that everything... i have limited bandwidht usage re [01:01] bharat862004: downloading the tar takes more bacnwidth. but you get the tar unpack it cd into new dir and run ./firefox it will work as i do it here every day [01:02] ok tell me how to go about from the beginning i have the firefox.tar.gz.... next ??? [01:02] ***MEMORY-WARNING***: firefox-bin[27194] : GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions; memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() has been detected; this program is likely to crash, leak or unexpectedly abort soon... [01:02] might get that but it still runs [01:03] ok thanks anyways i will go now :) [01:03] bharat862004: unpack the tarball tar -zvxf firefox....tar.gz replace firefox.... with name [01:03] ok tell me [01:03] than cd firefox [01:03] if that is name of dir. [01:03] ok next ? [01:03] than ./firefox [01:04] where should i run that command "./firefox ? [01:04] gnomefreak@GutsyGibbon:~/upstream_ffox/firefox$ ./firefox [01:04] your dirs will be different or might be [01:05] since i made upstream_ffox dir to keep ~/ clean [01:05] once you unpack it you will see a dir named firefox [01:05] cd firefox [01:05] than ./firefox [01:05] ok [01:05] bharat862004: make sure all firefoxs are closed first [01:05] ko [01:06] ok updated.... but got hell lot of warning and error's in the terminal.... $hit [01:07] trying my luck with the add-on now... wait [01:07] bharat862004: its not updated its just running [01:07] bharat862004: you would need to follow the instructions on the link i gave above to use extension [01:08] or add it to upstream build that you are running but thats harder than it sounds [01:08] what ??? u mean its not installed... its just running from the firefox folder.... ??????? [01:08] bharat862004: yes [01:09] oh no [01:09] bharat862004: you HAVE to follow the instructions on the link i gave you to install it [01:09] ok tell me what 2 do now... i am listening to u [01:09] bharat862004: READ the link please [01:10] ok reading [01:10] asac: did you get sunbird built ok? [01:10] im catching up on the feeds and looks like there will be a rc2 [01:12] oh that cant be good. seamonkey branding is no longer free << as in firefox or tbirds [01:15] gnomefreak: yeah :) [01:15] gnomefreak: thats a pretty long procedure they have mentioned just to update or install the latest version of firefox... :( [01:15] gnomefreak: i remember exactly how the seamonkey council swear that it will stay free [01:16] i said ' i don't believe you, we are going iceape' [01:16] bharat862004: its not suppported by ubuntu so it wont be too easy [01:16] they said: trust me [01:16] i said: like we trust your previously firefox branding policy? no go! [01:16] i thought they were keeping it free too [01:16] this blows chunks [01:16] bharat862004: why don't you use our package? [01:16] so i cannot install or update my existing verion of firefox in ubuntu 6.06... right ? [01:16] asac: bandwidth he said [01:17] bharat862004: not unless you use our repo or wait untill its backported [01:17] bharat862004: are you a brave guy ... or just want to have a stable environment ? ... otherwise you could try our dapper backport :) [01:17] e.g. try backports if you feel brave [01:17] asac: he thinks it will help his extension [01:17] ok i am ready to use the repository method also ... tell me ? [01:17] what kind of extension is that? [01:17] the extension is trash [01:18] bharat862004: be warned ... it might upgrade a lot applications for you [01:18] ok i'm not bothered about my extension now... just wanna update the firefox.... that's it :) [01:18] asac: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1672 [01:18] bharat862004: what version do you want? [01:18] latest version.... [01:19] so latest 1.5.0.x version is not latest for you? [01:19] hope that does not take to much time to update firefox :) [01:19] you want latest 2.0.0.x ? === gnomefreak cant remember if i built 2.0.0.3 or .4 for our repo === gnomefreak goes looks [01:19] bharat862004: if you don't have time better don't use our repos [01:19] asac: yes... i guess that suppose to be the latest ? isnt it ? [01:19] depends :) [01:19]