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emdashi installed emacs, but when I type C-h i (to start info) then m Emacs, i do not have the main emacs manual installed12:30
emdashsearching for emacs in synaptic does not turn up an obvious emacs manual page12:30
emdash*package12:31
emdashwhat am I missing12:31
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BelialMkIIHey there, was wondering how i would ser xubuntu to use a USB headset for sound output, the speakers on this laptop are really bad, even if it is a command that has to be issued every time they are plugged in would be good12:47
crimsunasoundconf set-default-card12:48
crimsunsee the output from `asoundconf list`12:48
BelialMkIIthanks crimsun12:48
crimsune.g., asoundconf set-default-card Headset12:48
crimsunyou'll then need to restart your sound app(s)12:48
BelialMkIIBrilliant, thanks again for the help12:49
crimsun(an alternative is using pulseaudio and libasound2-plugins with pavucontrol)12:49
BelialMkIII'll look into that12:49
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ketroxhello12:50
GrueTamerhi12:50
ketroxi'm trying to get xubuntu 7.04 running on an old p312:51
ketroxi installed it using the alternate cd12:51
emdashcool12:51
ketroxand now i can login with the login manager12:52
ketroxbut when i try to run some application12:52
ketroxthe xserver just restart12:52
ketroxso i thougt maybe xfce was too heavy for the laptop12:53
ketroxand tried to install fluxbox12:53
ketroxbut i cannot connect to the internet over usb with my router12:54
emdashummm12:54
emdashit's not because of xfce12:54
emdashwhich programs are yo utrying to run, what graphics card are you using12:55
ketrox?12:55
emdashi can't help you with the usb problem...it may or may not be supported under linux12:56
ketroxthe graphik card is a Neomagic NM238012:56
ketroxit is supported12:56
ketroxwhen i run dmesg12:56
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ketroxi see that the kernel recognize it12:56
cheeseboyhi12:56
GrueTamerhi12:56
ketroxand make it to eth012:56
cheeseboyi have aproblem12:56
emdashketrox: oh, that's good12:57
GrueTamer!ask12:57
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:57
GrueTamerhey, it almost applies :)12:57
ketroxbut when i try to do ifup eth012:57
emdashketrox: but let's take things one at a time12:57
ketroxit says ignore unknown device12:57
ketroxok edmash12:57
cheeseboyim remote loggingin using xdmcp but the two pcs have different types of keyboard whatdo i do ?12:57
GrueTameryou could use a layout of the other kind of keyboard layout and substitute keys, i dunno12:58
emdashketrox: it would help if you could put the x server errors into a paste bin12:58
GrueTamerwell, that might not work...but its something to try12:58
GrueTameryoure sure that it doesnt work normally, right?12:59
emdashketrox: also, for the time being you might want to kill gdm and start x from the console12:59
ketroxedmash i tried this too12:59
ketroxbut it is still the same thing12:59
emdashketrox: the proper way to do that is to <ctrl><alt>F1 to switch to the text console12:59
emdashlogin, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop01:00
cheeseboyso what do i do?01:00
emdashthen you can start x11 with startx01:00
ketroxi did exactly that edmash still the same01:00
emdashright01:01
emdashbut now can you put the errors into a pastebin so I can see them?01:01
ketroxwhere should i look for xserver error01:01
ketrox?01:01
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bulio_I installed automatix, and got non-free codecs01:02
emdash/var/log/Xorg.0.log01:02
bulio_but I still cant play mp3s in rhythmbox01:02
cheeseboyhelp??01:02
bulio_trying to play one crashes rhythmbox01:02
bulio_but amarok and xmms work fine01:02
crimsunamarok uses libxine1-ffmpeg, which depends on libmad001:03
crimsunxmms includes its own mpg123-based plugin01:03
cheeseboyhelp01:03
cheeseboyplease01:03
cheeseboyim remote loggingin using xdmcp but the two pcs have different types of keyboard whatdo i do ?01:04
bulio_crimsun, what do I need for rhythmbox then?01:04
emdashketrox: /var/log/Xorg.0.log01:04
emdashketrox: use pastebin.ca btw, do NOT paste it into the channel01:04
viddcheeseboy, when you say "two differenttypes of keyboards" what do you mean?01:05
crimsunbulio_: either gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 or gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly01:05
cheeseboyones laptop ones pc keyboard01:05
viddlike one us english, and the other spanish (or someother language) and the keys are nothing alike?01:05
cheeseboylike if itype sudo on other keyboard its s4d601:06
viddoh....turn the num lock off on the laptop01:06
bulio_I have -ugly installed01:07
ketroxi'm trying to cop the file to an usb stick so how can i do it from the terminal ?01:07
cheeseboythnx vidd01:07
viddno problem01:08
crimsunbulio_: so remove -ugly and install the other01:08
crimsunbulio_: then restart rhythmbox and see if you can reproduce the symptom.  If so, file a bug.01:08
bulio_ok01:08
bulio_I have both actually01:09
viddcheeseboy, do you have your desktop set up so that it turns the num lock on automatically when starting x?01:10
cheeseboyvidd im not sure but it was on01:11
viddwell...i knew it was on when i notice it was substituting "4" for "u" and "6" for "o"01:12
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viddbut the question is...did you deliberately take extra steps to forse your desktop to automatically turn the num lock on at boot....or did this happen because you accedentally hit the <fn> instead of the <shift> when doing something01:14
vidd...or <alt>.....or <cntrl>....01:14
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ketroxemdash http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25172/01:46
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ketroxemdash are u still here ?01:53
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vidd_laptop!version02:37
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell02:37
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mscdexis it possible to download all necessary drivers and/or apps for connecting up a scanner (HP scanjet 5300 to be exact) so that I can install them on another PC offline?02:43
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kalikianamscdex, Of course. You can download debian packages or tarballs and copy them via any medium.02:53
vidd_laptop!init.d02:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about init.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:56
vidd_laptophow do you add something like rbot to init.d?02:57
Jester45!init03:03
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto03:03
Jester45vidd, use rc.locla03:03
mscdexkalikiana: Where might I find them? Also, a major concern of mine is dependencies, is there a way I can make sure I have all that I need for the offline PC?03:04
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kalikianamscdex, For everything provided directly by ubuntu, I suggest http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for a start. You can see the dependencies of each package there.03:06
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vidd_laptop*wave* cellofellow03:11
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cellofellowhello03:12
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cellofellowvidd: I may have a use for some of your webspace. I need something that would simulate the controls I'd have on a two-bit host. FTP, PHP5, and phpMyAdmin. I need to install Drupal on a server the "hard way", without using the deb package.03:14
cellofellowThis is for my schools website.03:14
cellofellowvidd_laptop: ^^^^03:17
vidd_laptopcellofellow, come to #viddandme03:18
cellofellowok03:18
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Chikubuhi pplz04:40
Chikubuwhat is the best app to add to control wireless conections?04:40
Pumpernickelwifi-radar04:41
Chikubuha! was looking right at that04:41
Chikubuthnx04:41
Chikubui wanna share a printer wireless, any gotcha's to look out for?04:42
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slurpeexubuntu rox0r04:47
kalikianaXFCE4.4 rox even more :P04:49
kalikianaBut rox doesn't rock at all.04:49
slurpeexfce4.4 is what xubuntu is currently running ?04:50
malcolmbya04:54
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slurpeewhat cool applications/utills do you recommend for xubuntu ?04:56
slurpeei have it running on a pretty old compaq presario.....it has been stable for about a month now04:56
malcolmbyou have any apps in mind?04:57
malcolmbhave you visited the xfce wiki?04:57
kalikianaslurpee, http://wiki.xfce.org/recommendedapps04:57
malcolmbthere you go04:58
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slurpeesweet site05:03
slurpeewhat wiki software is that ?05:03
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j1mcslurpee: what the site?05:09
slurpeeyea05:09
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felicianoHi... I got a problem And I cant run "services"... I need how can I launch it from a terminal... may be if I run it like root it works...06:02
tonyyarussofeliciano: what specifically are you trying to run?06:03
vidd_laptopsudo services-admin06:04
felicianothanks but doesnt work too06:05
felicianothis is my problem06:05
feliciano(services-admin:4802): Liboobs-WARNING **: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory06:05
feliciano(services-admin:4802): Liboobs-WARNING **: OobsSession object hasn't connected to the bus, cannot register OobsObject06:05
feliciano(services-admin:4802): Liboobs-CRITICAL **: run_message: assertion `oobs_session_get_connected (priv->session)' failed06:05
feliciano(services-admin:4802): Liboobs-CRITICAL **: oobs_session_get_platform: assertion `priv->connection != NULL' failed06:05
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felicianosorry about the paste06:09
felicianothis is my problem when I try to run services... please see it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25189/06:09
maxamillionfeliciano: its alright, sorry for the kick ... it was pre-mature, i've just been on edge lately ... you really didn't do anything wrong, i should have warned first06:10
maxamillionfeliciano: ok, lemme take a look at the paste06:10
PumpernickelDBUS doesn't seem to be running, or at least running but incorrectly configured.06:10
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felicianoPumpernickel I guess I unable it by mistake... how can I enable again??06:11
maxamillionah, yes ... i think dbus failed to load at boot ... or something killed it, it crashed, etc.06:11
felicianomaxamillion... dont worry about the kick06:11
maxamillion:)06:11
felicianomaxamillion... any idea to enable it?06:11
maxamillionfeliciano: uhmm... did you disable it?06:12
felicianomaxamillion... by mistake... I guess yes06:12
maxamillionfeliciano: ok, just a moment06:12
felicianomaxamillion... thnaks06:12
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maxamillionfeliciano: i can't seem to find any good info on how to re-enable it, so we are going to do it the round about way ... do you use apt-get or aptitude for package management?06:17
PumpernickelIt should be possible to enable it in services admin.06:17
felicianomaxamillion, I found it06:17
PumpernickelThere's also /etc/init.d/dbus, I believe.06:17
felicianoif you wanna now I do this..06:17
felicianorun sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start06:18
felicianoand then I run services-admin06:18
felicianoAnd then enable dbus again06:18
maxamillionfeliciano: right, but if you removed it somewhere then it won't restart when you reboot the machine ... unless you just killed the service and not actually removed it from an init somewhere06:18
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felicianomaxamillion... I disable it while I desable others services... by mistake..06:19
maxamillionbut yes .... "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start" would start the service, but it won't replace it in a runtime level init config06:20
maxamillionfeliciano: oh, ok ... i misunderstood what you had done, yes ... that command will work06:20
felicianomaxamillion... I going to reboot And see if all come back to normally06:20
maxamillionfeliciano: okies, we will be here06:20
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felicianomaxamillion, Pumpernickel.. thanks a lot06:20
maxamillionanytime06:21
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felicianoAll right buddies!!!06:25
felicianothanks again06:25
felicianojust another question... I guess I see something failed in the boot... Where is the log file of the boot??06:26
maxamillionanytime06:26
Pumpernickel`dmesg`06:27
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Chikubuquestion about the add/remove apps, i removed an app giving me problems, and re-added it, i noticed it didnt download, so it must be parked in temp directory or cache someplace, is this something i should clear out periodicly?06:28
maxamillionChikubu: /var/cache/apt/ ... but just because it doesn't download shouldn't change anything, apt does an md5sum on the downloaded package so every download is literally identical in data06:30
felicianocan I tell you something is not and question? Is more than a help06:33
felicianofor me of course06:33
Chikubuok, just wondeing if it would fill up over time06:34
Chikubuhow does networking determine host names? i can ping one pc on network by name, but the otheronly by ip06:35
Chikubumaybe because one is set as ad hoc gateway running ics06:35
Chikubuive spent hours making a usb wirless adaptor see my access point connected to my router, with dchp turned off using ics and its "router" function06:36
Chikububut it works!06:36
vidd_laptopChikubu, it determines it by internal DNS06:36
maxamillionfeliciano: sure06:36
Chikubumostly...06:36
maxamillionChikubu: you can add them statically to /etc/hosts if you use static ips on anything, but otherwise yes ... it is determined via the internal DNS06:38
felicianomaxamillion.. dont worry its just I'm doing a blog in spanish to help xubuntu users more newbies than me :D and I need if you know some xubuntu webs where I can find some tips06:38
Chikubuok ill consider the host file06:38
Chikubumy next thing im working on is getting shares working through the wireless connection06:38
felicianomaxamillion.. btw www.xubuntuchile.wordpress.com06:39
Chikubunot sure what samba's gonna make out of the wireless thing06:39
vidd_laptopthe router functionality will pass the domain name of the computer with the internet connection to allthe other computers in your network...because they need to know where to get thier dns from06:39
Chikubuthe router is software atm, widows ics06:40
maxamillionfeliciano: www.xubuntu.org is a good place to start, there is also http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/, and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu06:40
vidd_laptopso i can assume that the computer with the internet connction is the one you can ping by mane?06:40
Chikubuyes06:40
felicianomaxamillion...nice... tnx06:41
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maxamillionfeliciano: anytime06:41
Chikubuits the gateway the xubuntu system is using via the wireless via the router acting as a hub via the dial up06:41
vidd_laptopChikubu, the router functionality i spoke about can be either hardware or software06:41
Chikubujust telling you its software atm06:42
vidd_laptopi knew it was software....06:42
vidd_laptopcuzz you said "ad hock"06:42
Chikubuk lol06:42
Chikubui need to bone up on command line commands for configuring the network or view it06:43
felicianomaxamillion  xubuntu.wordpress.com is out date?? dont run anymore??06:43
maxamillionfeliciano: oh... hadn't noticed06:44
vidd_laptopits there.....06:45
vidd_laptopjust hasnt been updated since september of last year06:46
felicianovidd_laptop... I think nobody going to write there anymore...06:47
maxamillionfeliciano: i know the author, i will speak with him about updating more06:48
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felicianomaxamillion... I wait some news :P Now I'm going to bed... see you tomorrow guys06:49
maxamillionnight night06:49
vidd_laptopmaxamillion, who is the author?06:50
maxamillionvidd_laptop: i am pretty sure its josh06:50
maxamillioncellofellow: ping06:51
vidd_laptopcellofellow ?06:51
vidd_laptopi need some assistance with setting up a mail server06:52
vidd_laptopcan you recomend some reading material?06:52
vidd_laptopi want to use post-fix, and to set up webmail06:53
maxamillionuhmm... not off the top of my head06:53
maxamillionlemme check something06:53
Pumpernickelhttp://www.postfix.org/documentation.html ^_^06:53
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maxamillionvidd_laptop: and for pleasant user interface, try out http://roundcube.net/06:55
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Chikubudoes xubuntu have software firewall enabled by default?06:55
tonyyarusso!firewall | Chikubu06:56
ubotuChikubu: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).06:56
sigmamu188maxamillion:  just got back from egypt07:01
sigmamu188maxamillion: whats the offtopic?07:02
maxamillionsigmamu188: #xubuntu-offtopic07:02
Chikubulol was just typing that commadn in to see what it did, didnt know it was firewall07:02
Chikubuill check out firestarter then,thnx07:04
Chikubui know that ubuntu uses diffrent desktop environment, should i avoid apps for that environment?07:04
tonyyarussoGnome and XFCE use the same toolkit, so they're very interoperable (just a question of installing extra libraries sometimes), KDE stuff will run fine on Xubuntu as well, and depending on who you ask it may or may not make a difference.07:05
vidd_laptopno...you can even install kde apps if ya want07:05
maxamillionChikubu: firestarter is really nice07:06
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maxamillionkde apps are slower because it has to pull in kde-libs and qt-libs into ram07:06
Chikubuah good cause im downloading a kde app now and all its dependancies07:07
maxamillionChikubu: yeah, it will work .. but you will probably notice it will load more slowly than most other apps07:07
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maxamillioninteresting bug i recently learned about in aptitude ... there are interesting inconsistencies between the UI and the CLI modes of aptitude07:07
Chikububut the app loads the libraries at run time, they arent loaded at boot right?07:08
maxamillionChikubu: right07:08
Chikubuok that was my concern, just installing them would cause overall peformance hit, i can handle per application hit07:08
maxamillionChikubu: there is a place in xfce you can tell xfce to load "kde support" at login time, but you generally want to leave that unchecked07:08
Chikubuok07:08
maxamillionChikubu: yeah, it will only be a per application performance hit07:09
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maxamillionnight vidd_laptop07:09
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Chikubuthis wireless access point confuzzes me, i gave it a static ip, its working in xubunto, but what if another wirless adaptor wants to connect to it? they can both use the same ip, does the access point manage sharing of the one ip somehow?07:10
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maxamillionChikubu: 2 wifi adapters on the same machine?07:10
j1mchi maxamillion07:11
Chikubuno i mean the access point has been assigned a static ip, on the xubunto machine ive given the usb wireless adaptor that ip to find the wireless network, if i put another wireless adaptor on another machine, and pointed it to that ip, wouldnt that be a conflict?07:13
Chikubui didnt wordd that well07:13
j1mcChikubu: so having the same IP address point to two machines?07:14
j1mcor even just have it point to two adapters?07:14
Chikubuthats what i dont understand07:14
j1mcyeah...  i'm not sure i understand by reading your description.07:14
Chikubuthe access point you connect straight to wired router (acting as hub here) or right into lan card to configure via webbrowser, i assigned the acces point a static ip07:15
Chikubuso you bring in a pc with a wireless adapter, it communicates with the access point, using the static ip of the access point i assume07:16
Chikubudoesnt seem like it leaves much room for another pc with wireless adapter to come in and use that one ip07:16
Chikubuunless the access point is doing something i dont understand yet07:17
Chikubui guess i dont understand how the gateway works completly yet, ill read07:19
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AlexTheGreathello07:46
Jester45hi07:49
Jester45and bye everyone07:50
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jrsimsweird. when I go to use lynx and open google.com, suddenly a gui text editor opens with the page contents of google.com. Why is that happening?08:02
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dgacan anyone recommend a decent-looking terminal font?09:38
PumpernickelMonospace, 9pt, green on black background.09:46
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SniZxubuntu is good for ibm x31 laptop?09:47
PumpernickelShould be fine.09:48
SniZand i can use something like network manager live desktop applet?09:49
PumpernickelIf you're looking for a wifi management tool, wifi-radar is decent.09:50
SniZ.09:51
SniZmmm.....09:51
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MaxFrameshello11:40
Catoptromancyhey hey11:44
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MaxFramesafter the upgrade, will my settings stay (example: I've customized the panels)11:57
MaxFrames?11:57
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predaeusMaxFrames, they should. Sometimes things get messy. But basically they should stay. That is the idea of upgrading.12:00
predaeusMaxFrames, depending on what way of upgrading you chose, the application might ask if it should keep the configuration for an application or use the new one provided with the package.12:04
CatoptromancyA little trick i figured12:04
Catoptromancybackup all your hidden files/folders in /home/12:04
Catoptromancyheh12:04
CatoptromancyI reformatted and put them back in. Didnt even need to sign-in to forums12:05
Catoptromancypanels and everything was just like how i had it12:05
MaxFramesi guess there is no way to pause the upgrade process and put the PC into standby? It will take another 1:45 hours and I have to leave in 2 hours12:07
MaxFramesand i will come back only thursday12:07
predaeusMaxFrames, it might be possible if it is still downloading packages, not instlaling yet.12:10
MaxFramesit's already installing big time :P12:11
predaeusMaxFrames, if so, it should pick up from where it left next time. Because apt caches downloaded packages. so they must not be downloaded again.12:11
predaeusoh well then better leave it running. might mess something up. not sure.12:11
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MaxFramesit's accelerating... now it says 50 minutes left... let's hope it's right :)12:27
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wootif I go use dialup setting under applications >> system >> network I can set it up to use aol right? thinking about switching to netzero12:44
wootanything I should know about using dialup with xubuntu?12:45
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zoppohello?12:53
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redmonkeyhi01:14
redmonkeyi cant run thunderbird anymore. i recieve an segmentation fault as soon as i start it :(01:15
redmonkeyonly root is able to run it without crashing it01:17
redmonkeyi also tried to delete /home/myname/.mozilla-thunderbird completely. but it didnt help01:17
redmonkeywhat else could i try?01:18
redmonkey*sigh*01:20
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redmonkeyhello? are you sitting on your hands? :)01:25
predaeusredmonkey, what did you do?01:33
redmonkeyactually i don't know. nothing as far as i know..01:33
redmonkeyi ran a little python program that crashed my whole system. i had to turn out my computer to reset01:34
redmonkeybut all filesystems are ok. i checked them with fsck01:34
predaeusso mozilla-thunderbird does not run, but sudo mozilla-thunderbird does?01:35
redmonkeyexactly01:35
redmonkeyi created a new user to test if i can run thunderbird with it. but it didnt work either. only root is able to run thunderbird01:36
redmonkeyi really dont get it01:36
predaeustry ddd mozilla-thunderbird to get an idea where it crashes.01:37
predaeusor gdb01:38
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predaeusgdb mozilla-thunderbird01:38
predaeusah,, no that does not work its a script01:38
redmonkey"/usr/bin/mozilla-thunderbird": not in executable format: File format not recognized01:39
predaeusyes I saw that :-(01:39
redmonkeyi run mozilla-thunderbird from a terminal. then it starts, shows the thunderbird main window for a second and closes it right after. then it displays this message in the terminal:01:40
redmonkeyDOUBLE-CLICK: 300 --> -1 THRESHOLD: 8 --> -1 Segmentation fault (core dumped)01:41
predaeuswhat python script did you run? did you run it as root?01:41
redmonkeyit was called pyracerz and i didnt run it as root01:42
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predaeuswas it from the repos?01:44
redmonkeyyes01:44
predaeushm then it shouldnt be intrusive or anything01:45
predaeuseh I mean harmful01:45
predaeushm in /usr/bin/mozilla-thunderbird is an option for enabling debugging, you could try that.01:45
predaeusmaybe it's just for the script though01:46
redmonkeyhow do i enable it?01:47
predaeusgksudo mousepad /usr/bin/mozilla-thunderbird    then look for the line     "set -x" and remove the # infront to enable it. add the # later again.01:49
predaeusbut I fear that is just for debugging the script that launches the thunderbird binary01:49
predaeusyou can still try to reinstall thunderbird.01:50
redmonkeyi did. didnt help :(01:50
predaeushm01:50
bobslaedehey, is there a better tool for changing keyboard layouts (like the keyboard settings gnome has), as it seems my U.S layout isn't that sane..01:50
predaeusaha DOUBLE-CLICK: 300 --> -1 THRESHOLD: 8 --> -1 + exitcode=001:50
predaeussays that here too but runs fine01:50
predaeuswith debugging enabled like I said above, I can see that line too01:51
predaeusthis is totally weird01:51
predaeusalso if run like this   /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/mozilla-thunderbird-bin     it prints that line too01:52
predaeusbut runs fine always01:52
predaeushm it always prints that line it seems, or I just caused it to somehow. but it runs fine apart from that.01:54
redmonkeyif i try to run /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh01:54
redmonkeyit says01:54
redmonkeyrun-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute .01:54
predaeusyea add the second part after.  /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/mozilla-thunderbird-bin       but it doesnt make a difference01:55
predaeus"/usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/mozilla-thunderbird-bin"01:55
redmonkeyahh01:55
redmonkeyok, same error... Segmentation fault (core dumped)01:55
predaeusbasically it seems like that error is usual. but the segfault is not...hm01:56
predaeusweird what could cause it to change DOUBLE-CLICK: 300 --> -1 THRESHOLD: 8 --> -1 + exitcode=0 to DOUBLE-CLICK: 300 --> -1 THRESHOLD: 8 --> -1 Segmentation fault (core dumped)01:56
predaeusredmonkey, probably ask in #ubuntu-mozillateam   but there are not many people there01:57
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MaxFrameshello01:59
redmonkeyok, i'll try my luck in there.. thanks for everythings, predaeus!01:59
predaeusredmonkey, no problem I hope they can help and somebody is around02:00
predaeusredmonkey, also try #ubuntu there is more people there and this is not limited to xubuntu02:00
MaxFramesthe 7.04 upgrade went all bad... the system logs me in, shows me the desktop for a couple of seconds, then the display becomes garbaged and after a few seconds i'm presented with the logon screen again, and i'm stuck in this loop :(02:01
MaxFramesi can't use the system no more :(02:01
MaxFramespls help02:03
MaxFrames.....02:04
MaxFramesplease tell me how can i fix this with emergency xterm mode02:05
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predaeusMaxFrames, look through dmesg, /var/log/syslog  /var/log/xorglog (?) and so on for hints on what is going wrong02:06
MaxFrameshow do i set the desktop resolution and refresh rate via command line?02:07
Catoptromancy_How would I be able to print with an WindowXP computer on the printer02:07
Catoptromancy_I can already print XP to XP from my dual boot02:07
predaeus!cups | Catoptromancy_02:08
ubotuCatoptromancy_: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows02:08
predaeusMaxFrames, you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (make a backup first) to chagne resolutions etc.02:09
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assasukassehi everyone,03:09
assasukassei have a small problem03:09
assasukassei am going to install xubuntu at a friend pc03:09
assasukassehe uses a netgear ethernet modem03:09
assasukassehow can i configure it?03:09
assasukasseis there anything for DSL ethernet modem?03:10
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tuxcrafterhello gys03:25
tuxcrafterguys03:25
tuxcrafterdoes any of you use oowriter03:25
tuxcrafterdoes copy paste of a image in a odt document works03:25
tuxcrafteryou can try it in the odt document itself03:26
tuxcrafterjust cut it03:26
tuxcrafterand try to past it back03:26
tuxcrafterbecause here it does not work03:26
tuxcrafterand on fedora it does03:26
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alnoktai installed sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-perl2 ..but perl files aren't working when i try them... (in /var/www/) .. any idea if there is another thing i need to do?03:32
predaeustuxcrafter, works fine here03:32
tuxcrafterpredaeus: ok than its again some strange local bug03:32
predaeustuxcrafter, just created new document (never saved it) inserted image from file and copy pasted it with ctrl-c/v03:33
predaeustuxcrafter, you will have to hit enter a few times or place the cursor somewhere else, or the pasted image will exactly overlap with the source image of course :-)03:34
tuxcrafterpredaeus: cut paste03:35
tuxcrafteri tried exactly what you dit03:35
tuxcrafterdid03:35
tuxcrafterand it did not work03:35
tuxcrafterso local bug03:35
tuxcrafteri can try remvoe the .openoffice.org files03:36
tuxcrafterand try with fresh settings03:36
tuxcrafter/remove/rename03:36
predaeusif it is a huge document it might mess/fight with the image layouts, maybe its on next page or something03:36
predaeushm, nevermind03:36
tuxcrafternow it works03:37
tuxcraftersucks03:37
predaeusweird03:37
tuxcrafterwhat setting could it be03:37
tuxcrafteri hate this03:37
tuxcraftergot the same problem with firefox03:37
tuxcrafterafter few moths it just start falling apart03:38
tuxcrafterstandby it does still not work03:38
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predaeustuxcrafter, if it is not limited to ooffice it might be a problem with xfwm or xfce in general, maybe ask in #xfce too.03:41
tuxcrafteryea but if you cant reproduce it i don't have a change03:42
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tuxcrafterpredaeus: i found the problem!!03:45
tuxcraftertry adding the xfce panel clipboard manager please03:46
tuxcrafterand then cut past03:46
tuxcrafterstange03:47
OhzieOh man I love xfce. :D03:47
Ohziegnome left me wanting something03:47
OhzieKDE left me wanting pain in my face03:47
tuxcrafterpredaeus: sometimes it works and somethime it doesn't03:48
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Pinkle_Rosehello03:50
Pinkle_Rosei try to set shortcut to exaile with command: http_proxy="http://proxy.telsten.com:3128" exaile03:56
Pinkle_Rosei try to set shortcut to exaile with command:03:57
Pinkle_Rosehttp_proxy="http://proxy.telsten.com:3128" exaile03:57
Pinkle_Rosewhen i run it i get error03:57
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Pinkle_Rosebut when i type it in console program starts03:57
Pinkle_Rosehow to use it in shortcut?03:58
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tuxcrafterpredaeus: thanks for testing, it is a clipman problem04:12
tuxcrafteri killed the clipman and now everyting is working04:12
predaeusg04:12
tuxcrafteri put the clipman back with with normal managing enabled04:12
predaeusprobably file a bug to help them out, if it is not filed yet04:13
tuxcrafterand it seems to work again04:13
tuxcrafterpredaeus: clipman has more problems04:13
tuxcrafterif it cant handle the input data it can freeze04:13
tuxcrafterpredaeus: but I cant reproduce it04:14
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tuxcrafterbut do now how to solve it (pkill *clipman*04:14
tuxcrafter:-P\04:14
predaeusyou could file it anyway, so they know something is wrong. they can just close the report if they want anyway.04:15
tuxcrafterpredaeus: when i got some more concreet info about the problem i will make a report04:16
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tuxcrafterother guestion: how do i mount a movie.iso without having to use sudo rights?04:24
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predaeustuxcrafter, I think you can't. But you can unpack the .iso and probably run the contained movie file.04:35
predaeustuxcrafter, unpacking works with double click with file-roller04:36
tuxcrafterpredaeus: thats no good news, totem-xine under ubuntu can just play iso movies04:36
tuxcrafterbut under xubuntu i have to mount damm04:37
predaeusjust install totem04:37
predaeusthen04:37
tuxcrafteri do this with a automated script but its still need sudo right for the mount command04:37
tuxcrafterpredaeus: i use totem-xine under xubuntu too04:37
predaeusah04:38
predaeushm no idea sorry04:38
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alnoktaany idea?04:41
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h377r1d3rHi04:47
h377r1d3rerm... why as a user i can't eject cd ?04:48
Eagle_101should be able to04:50
h377r1d3ri can sudo eject in xterm04:50
Pumpernickelalnokta: You would need to configure apache to load it and use it to parse perl files.04:50
h377r1d3rbut that's not how it should work04:50
h377r1d3rA, btw Xubuntu RoCkS and KiCkS AsS; i have tried ubuntu and kubuntu, but xubuntu is just briliant :D04:51
Pumpernickeltuxcrafter: `pmount`04:52
tuxcrafterPumpernickel: i am looking at that right know but it talks about devices a lot04:52
PumpernickelIs that unexpected? o_O04:53
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tuxcrafterPumpernickel: pmount -o loop ubuntu-7.04-server-i386.iso iso/04:54
tuxcrafterpmount: invalid option -- o04:54
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tuxcrafteri think i make a topic on the forum for this one04:56
Pumpernickelhm, bug 1807805:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 18078 in pmount "Allow user mount of ISO on loop device?" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1807805:03
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tuxcrafterPumpernickel: yes i read it before :-P05:13
alnoktaPumpernickel, all right, any webpage on that? thanks05:21
tuxcrafteri give up i will just add mount to the sudoers file05:22
tuxcrafterhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2829478#post282947805:24
tuxcrafterhow do i solve this :-D05:27
tuxcrafterE: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.05:27
tuxcrafterhow do i clear the state information of apt-get05:30
tuxcraftersudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq virtualbox05:31
tuxcraftergot it05:31
tuxcrafter:-D05:31
tuxcrafteri have to leave the channel now, thanks for the help guys05:32
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OhzieHow do I tell what version of xfce I have?05:33
OhzieOh nevermind I found it05:34
Ohzie=)05:34
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assasukassehi everyone, why i can't install xubuntu with 192mb RAM?06:13
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assasukassewith 230Mb can i run Xubuntu? i tried to install on a 192machine and it hangs at installation..06:31
TheSheepassasukasse: use the alternate cd, the live cd needs more ram06:35
assasukasseTheSheep: im downloading it now..230 is enough for livecd?06:35
TheSheepassasukasse: ram, yes, disk space -- you'll need some 2-3GB at the minimum06:35
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assasukassei've 40Gb disk space06:37
assasukassei partitioned like this: /boot 240mb / 10gb /home rest06:37
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wootI have this modem "nVidia Corporation nForce3 Audio (rev a2)" its a winmodem I'm told and someone said back in 2004 there was a patched smartlink modem driver that worked for it06:42
wootthat is only info I have, don't know if its working, never used dial up, and scan modem on dialup howto isn't working06:43
wootsite is down06:43
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wootI'm just going to try peng06:50
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BFTDI need a completely Linux compatible wireless adapter07:01
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BFTDis there a better front end to desktop-effects?07:28
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alnoktayou want better desktop-effects? i wanna disable them07:38
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felicianoHi.. I'm using only xubuntu... finally I delete windows of my PC.. But I have a 20Gb partition with files, mp3, vides and docs.. its  fat32 and I want to know if are there another best file system to format it... I only use ext3 by default when install xubuntu...08:02
hyper__chhiho08:07
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technelIs it just me or is the Xubuntu download mirror down? http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/xubuntu/7.04/release/08:15
hyper_chtechnel: use another one08:15
technelAlso, just to confirm: If I have an ATI card, it is basically impossible to have transparent panels? (Seriously, GNOME does it no problem...even fluxbox can do it)08:15
technelhyper_ch, non-US?08:16
hyper_chtechnel: if they are working they are faster than non-working-US ones ;)08:16
technelheh08:16
hyper_chand ify ou use d4x08:16
hyper_chyou can change the download url anytime08:16
hyper_chif the file is the same08:16
technelhyper_ch, Cool, thanks08:18
hyper_chtechnel: or you could try bittorrent08:19
technelhyper_ch, Yeah, tried that. I have a lot of problems with Azureus08:19
hyper_chI use ktorrent :)08:20
technelSeriously, I have been using it >1 year and it will work for ~2 hours, then it goes to 0kb download, then I change port, it works, it's nasty08:20
techneland don't even point me to that monster of a NAT Problem article08:20
technelI have read it at least 10 times08:20
technelugh08:20
technelanyway08:20
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hyper_chtechnel: have you tried ktorrent?08:22
technelhyper_ch, Nope08:22
felicianoand transmission??08:23
hyper_chworks fine for me but uses quite cpu and ram....08:23
technelI will check out those two08:24
PumpernickelTake a look at Deluge, while you're at it.08:25
felicianoPumpernickel.. I try deluge.. but always it crush down08:25
technelmeanwhile d4x isn't downloading from a european mirror either :(08:26
felicianoPumpernickel.. and then never run again08:26
Jester45azureus? i use that08:26
techneldeluge has a nice logo :P08:26
technelJester45, Does it work?08:26
hyper_chwell, for ktorrent to be really fast you will need to allow UPnP08:26
Jester45yea it works08:26
hyper_chor someone said he likes utorrent best through wine08:27
felicianobut ktorrent install libraries from kde... yep?08:27
Jester45i love utorrent but not in wine... it looks out of place08:27
technelhyper_ch, I read on Azureus's wiki that if you have a hardware router like mine you should disable UPnP08:27
Pumpernickelfeliciano: It does have a few bugs.  I had a few crashes like that; it's very sensitive about locale settings and won't work if there's any inconsistency.08:27
Jester45technel, i have it enabled but it doesnt matter becuase im in the DMZ08:27
felicianoPumpernickel.. saddly08:28
hyper_chtechnel: ok... then follow that...08:31
technelI also read that my router (BEFSR41) inherently has problems with torrents or something08:31
technelthen I did a firmware upgrade and it didn't work at all08:31
techneland Linksys basically gave me the finger when I asked for support08:31
technelah d4x does work niecly08:31
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hyper_chtechnel: what linksys router?08:32
technelhyper_ch, BEFSR4108:32
hyper_chtechnel: is it support by openwrt?08:33
technelhyper_ch, Never used that?08:33
hyper_chtechnel: it's an opensource router software... much more configurable than the default one... I have it on my linksys08:34
technelhyper_ch, According to their wiki they only support WRT* routers (not BF*)08:36
hyper_chtechnel: well, a great many routers are supported... there were chances that yours was supported also08:36
technelhyper_ch, I seriously have no idea why Azureus doesn't work though. I have read through the wiki pages and followed the steps so many times, it's insane08:37
techneldrove me to the point of insanity, heh08:37
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TheSheepgui torrent clients are an abomination anyways :)08:38
hyper_chTheSheep: why?08:39
hyper_chwell, I had azureus on windoze and that worked...08:39
alnoktaDeluge is very nice for linux08:39
alnoktautorrent for windows08:39
technelyeah, utorrent is great08:39
hyper_chor utorrent for wine :)08:39
technelwine is a mess to get working08:40
TheSheephyper_ch: because you cannot leave it on a detached screen on a server and just switch off your home box08:40
alnoktathough deluge would need speed limits per torrent08:40
alnoktaTheSheep, can i actually switch my home box?08:40
alnoktaif i run a script through ssh?08:41
TheSheepalnokta: switch off08:41
hyper_chTheSheep: ah I see :)08:41
TheSheepalnokta: man screen08:41
alnoktayes, cut power :)08:41
alnoktathanks .. that would be nice08:41
TheSheepalnokta: http://jmcpherson.org/screen.html08:42
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technelCurious: What IRC chat programs do you guys use?08:52
felicianowhere can I change the size of the border of clearlooks theme?? the border where apear the title of the windows08:53
felicianotechnel... xchat here08:53
godlessHi, can I burn a bin/cue with xfburn08:53
godless?08:53
godlesstechnel:  irssi08:54
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hyper_chstupid me, I just erased the wrong partition08:57
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TheSheepgodless: .bin are usually just direct images of the whole cd or single cd tracks. the information on how they are structured is in the .cue file. if it's a whole disk, you can just burn the .bin file directly as if it was an iso09:12
godlessTheSheep:  Yeah, I binchunked it into an iso09:12
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godlessbut xfburn is not burning :/09:12
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godlessit just pops up 'operation finished' right away09:15
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Catoptromancyyup09:15
Catoptromancymy xfburn does that09:15
godlessI haven't booted windows in months, don't fail me now xfburn :(09:15
godlessCatoptromancy:  can you suggest an alternative?09:15
aandersehas anyone here used epdfview program?09:15
CatoptromancyK3b works great , but you need alot of KDE libs09:15
CatoptromancyK3b is the best I think09:15
godlessI guess I can take the hit while I'm burning and just close it afterwards...09:15
CatoptromancyI think I may have to reinstall all that KDE stuff09:15
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godlesshm09:17
godlesshttp://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Burn_Iso_with_Right-click_in_Thunar09:17
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octoberdanI've customized my desktop pannels completely and some where along the line got rid of the "Applications" menu09:21
octoberdanHow do I get that back?09:21
octoberdanI'm actually just using XFCE and never formally installed xubuntu, but rather install bit by bit as I need the stuff09:22
octoberdanRight now I'm following a tutorial on using thunar/fuse to browse a network09:22
octoberdanThe tutorial says "click XFCE's Application menu" which I do not have09:23
octoberdanSo I guess the question is, how do I get that menu09:24
octoberdanAh, I think the problem is that I have it, and know how to access it, it just has different items since I didn't install xubuntu09:26
octoberdanHow do I get the xubuntu items?09:26
octoberdanbut I don't want to install extra bloat or overwrite my precious xfce configurations?09:26
godlessoctoberdan:  what are you looking for within the menu?09:27
godlessif you right click on the panel and add new item the last option should be xfce menu09:28
godlessI believe that's the menu you want09:28
octoberdan"In XFCE Applications -> System -> Users and Groups"09:28
alnokta(i.e. without sending nasty signals to processes that don't deserve it) hehe09:29
octoberdangodless: That doesn't seem to have what is described in it09:29
octoberdanalso need "In XFCE's Applications -> System -> Shared Folders. "09:29
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octoberdanIf I install xubuntu, willl it erase my configuration?09:30
octoberdanFor pannel layout?09:30
godlessmight do09:30
octoberdanand launchers09:30
octoberdanIt took me forever to get it the way I like it09:30
alnoktaTheSheep, how to close a window?09:30
godlessthere should be a command you can enter to launch those apps, googling09:30
godlessoctoberdan:  try xfce-setting-show09:33
alnoktaTheSheep, nevermind .. 'exit' closes it ;)09:33
godlessfrom a terminal09:33
octoberdangodless: It doesn't have in it what I need09:34
godlessnope, sorry09:34
godlesser...09:34
octoberdanI'm taking the plunge and install xubuntu09:34
godlessbackup your ~/.config09:35
octoberdanRight09:35
octoberdanOh god, that's tons of stuff!09:36
octoberdanhmmm xubuntu-system-tools09:36
octoberdanI think that's what I want09:37
octoberdanaha! xubuntu-desktop once again evaded09:37
octoberdanAdded exactly what I nee09:38
octoberdand09:38
Jester45how can i look at windows shares09:41
godlesssweet.09:42
godlessJester45:  fuse or PyNetworkNeighborhood09:42
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octoberdanJester45: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131&highlight=xubuntu09:56
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blizzhello hello10:56
blizzis there a non-ugly looking qt3 theme package?10:57
ablomenblizz, clearlooks ;)10:58
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blizzi can only find two gtk themes containing the name clearlooks, am i missing it? :)11:01
blizzmaybeee, kde-style-klearlook?11:01
ablomenthats it :)11:04
blizzarr, kdelibs dependency.. evil...11:05
ablomenwell that's what you get with kde/qt stuff ;)11:06
ablomenjust use only apps! ;)11:06
ablomen*gtk apps11:06
blizzthere is that jabber client.. psi.. i like it! :)11:07
blizzgaim's jabber support sucks + i know no good gtk jabber client11:07
crimsunhuh?11:08
crimsungajim?11:08
blizzhell11:08
blizzim such a noob sometimes11:08
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blizzcrimsun: thank you so much, you may have changed my life by telling me about that wonderful client *lol*11:16
crimsunnp11:16
crimsunI used to use that client consistently11:16
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blizzhmm, it's an almost perfect piece of software11:26
alnoktaTheSheep, screen is awesome, thanks11:31
emdashif I compile and install custom gtk2 theme engines into /usr/local, how do I get gtk+ to load them?11:39
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