ryanakcamhb: sent12:17
mhbryanakca: it's no spam, it's just a jerk12:19
mhbryanakca: emailing to LP12:19
Riddellmhb: if it's from the Recommends bug then hobbsee already contacted them12:20
mhbRiddell: it has been removed from LP12:20
ryanakcamhb: ah12:32
Riddellmanchicken: dood, tell me system settings in kde 4 isn't a work of perfection now!12:34
manchickenOoh, now I'm all excited.12:43
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manchickenYeah, other than the ugly icons (which I suspect are more problems with the .desktop files than anything else) and the weird page setups, that looks beautiful.12:47
Riddellmanchicken: the lack of icons is entirely down to oxygen not being complete12:52
Riddellmanchicken: the only question now is how we slip it into kdebase without anyone noticing12:52
manchickenRiddell: We need to make it a little less ugly...12:57
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Riddellmanchicken: it's beautiful!01:02
manchickenRiddell: A face only a mother could love that proggy.01:03
Riddellwhat's wrong with it, besides the incomplete icons?01:03
ajmitchmanchicken: screenshot or I don't believe you01:03
manchickenI don't like the weird way the panes are set up.01:04
manchickenI think it would be better if each group of icons was not in its own little page widget.01:04
Riddellmanchicken: it wants ported to klistview http://www.ereslibre.es/?p=4901:07
Riddellwhich means re-writing all the search code etc01:07
manchickenWhy is that an mpeg?  Weird....01:09
manchickenScreenshots normally get the job done here...01:09
manchickenThat's a list view?01:10
manchickenNot bad.01:10
Riddelltold you before, list view in icon mode replaces KIconView01:12
manchickenThat's interesting.01:14
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nixternalhow come I can't view that mpeg file?01:49
crimsundoes Konqueror crash, or does the part simply appear to not play?01:50
nixternalthe part simply doesn't play01:51
nixternaltried kaffeine, vlc, mplayer...01:51
nixternalnone of them play it01:52
crimsunVIDEO:  [FMP4]   974x716  24bpp  25.200 fps  814.6 kbps (99.4 kbyte/s) Selected video codec: [ffodivx]  vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-4)01:53
crimsunmplayer (current gutsy) plays it01:53
nixternalI just get a lovely blue window01:57
xerosisplays in konqueror here01:58
nixternalhrmm, do I need some proprietary junk?01:59
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crimsunyou may.  I do have w32codecs installed.02:00
nixternalit crashes vlc, shows a blue screen in kaffeine, and mplayer says something out output and -vo02:00
nixternalI do now..and it is still a no go02:01
crimsunfeisty or gutsy?02:01
nixternalgot it02:02
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nixternalc# is horrible..it is vb for the internet02:39
nixternalthen again, vb isn't all that bad, except it is only good for one platform02:39
nixternals/vb isn't all that bad/vb isn't all that bad especially with beginner programmers/02:40
jjessenixternal: tell me how you really feel?03:08
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nixternaljjesse: that would be very unethical for me to tell you how I really feel ;)03:11
jjessei think my hotel bandwidth has been throttled down :(03:13
nixternalthat is good stuff right there03:13
jjessei've been trying to download an 8 gig file since monday night03:13
jjessealmost done with it :(03:13
nixternalI have downloaded 4 DVDs in the last 2 hours here03:13
nixternalthen again I am using the uni ethernet03:14
jjessei'm only get 8.2 kb/sec03:14
jjessecurrently at 295.9 MB of 851.3 MB for this file :(03:14
nixternalI now have Kubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE, and PC-BSD03:14
nixternalI bought a DVD burner a month back, and haven't burned a single disk with the darn thing03:15
jjessemaking up for that now?03:15
nixternaljust bought 2 19" widescreen monitors on Sunday, so I need to start using that box as a dev box03:15
nixternalhehe ya03:15
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nixternalI went to buy 1 20.1" or whatever widescreen and the guy is like why? I have 19" widescreen for $129...he had 2 left so I bought them03:16
jjessebut she keeps on wanting to use the money to pay off the windows, and bathroom remodel03:16
nixternal20.1" == $300, 2 x 19" == $26003:16
nixternalhrmm, I wonder ;)03:16
nixternalahh, I did windows 2 years ago03:16
nixternalI borrowed from my CD account03:16
jjessewe did both this year03:16
jjessewe are borrowing from our money market account03:17
nixternalare they charging tax on that?03:17
jjessefrom our money market?  we are just withdrawing the money03:18
nixternalahh, OK03:18
jjesseso not really "borrowing" but it is our fun fund03:18
nixternalyou know your windows and bathroom possibly, can be claimed on the taxes03:18
nixternalI know I did it03:18
jjessetax credit03:18
nixternalwas an extra $1k I think03:18
jjessewow i'm down to 8 kb/sec on my transfer :(03:19
nixternalI haven't been that slow since 199403:19
nixternalerr, 199503:19
jjessei think i can count the bits as they come across the line03:19
jjesseawesome justin verlander 6-th no hit game03:24
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jjesseoh first no hitter for him, 6th for the tiggers03:25
nixternalI was gonna say, 6 no-hitters for one pitcher is like a record or something03:31
jjessewhat is the address for ebn?  don't have it bookmarked on vm03:31
jjessenever mind03:32
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_marseillaisdoes someone has time for a revu ?09:45
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Tonio_hey ;)10:07
Tonio_fdoving: done :) will upload the ark fix today10:18
giangyhey Tonio_ :)10:19
Tonio_yop giangy ;)10:32
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_StefanS_Tonio_: hey12:19
_StefanS_Tonio_: Helmut just applied my patch to the knetworkmanager extragear branch12:19
_StefanS_Tonio_: branches/extragear/kde3/network/knetworkmanager12:19
Jucatogood day to all. and to all a good night :)12:19
_StefanS_good night Jucato12:19
Jucatoer... s/night/evening/12:20
Jucatosheesh :(12:20
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Tonio__StefanS_: superb !01:50
_StefanS_Tonio_: yep, he asked me if we should release 0.2 now as it is, or wait until the gui was redesigned. I told him to release now, and redesign gui later. Then we can hopefully have it in gutsy if nm0.6.5 makes it01:56
_StefanS_ah what is that terminal program called for rs232 connections..01:56
_StefanS_ah minicom :D01:58
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Tonio__StefanS_: great ;)03:08
Hobbseehiya Tonio_03:08
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Tonio_yop Hobbsee03:08
_StefanS_hop jobsee03:08
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manchickenI have baby pictures!!!03:18
Hobbseeyay, manchicken!03:19
manchickenI'm gonna put one up.03:19
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Riddellmanchicken: isn't it a bit soon for that?03:20
manchickenRiddell: Dacia had an ultrasound yesterday.03:20
Hobbseemanchicken: woo :)03:21
Riddellaww, an ickle manchicken03:21
manchickenIt was moving around and everything.03:21
Riddellit's saying "where's my internet connection"03:22
manchicken"Plug in mommy!  It's time to hack!"03:22
manchickenI wish Firefox would use the KDE file dialogs.03:29
Jucatohm.. wasn't there a sort of "hack" to do that?03:30
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mhbJucato: there were hacks to do that for GTK file dialogs, kde-apps likely03:31
Jucatoyeah. I forgot the name... researching for manchicken03:32
mhbbut I wish Firefox could also opened files with appropriate KDE apps03:32
manchickenI found a hack to get it to use kmail instead of evolution, which is nice.03:32
manchickenmhb: It can if you do much tinkering.03:33
manchickenBecause there are just some web programs that don't work in konq.03:33
manchickenTinyMCE doesn't work very well in konq, so I use firefox with wordpress.03:33
mhbmanchicken: yeah, I'd expect the distro to do the tinkering for me, especially a distro that "just works" .o)03:37
manchickenYup :)03:37
Jucatohttp://gentoo-wiki.com/index.php?title=HOWTO_Integrate_Firefox_with_KDE or http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=3607703:37
manchickenIt would seem that despite our vastly superior desktop environment, they still abuse and neglect us.03:37
Riddellmanchicken: tell is to gnomefreak, he was thinking about a kde-firefox package03:37
manchickenRiddell: That's a splendid idea.03:37
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Jucatomhb: I think there's something in about:config for that?03:37
HobbseeRiddell: did you hear we have a proper kubuntu-restricted-extras now inside ubuntu-restricted-extras, and i fixed lots of the bugs in it?  :)03:37
Jucatowoot Hobbsee!! :)03:37
Jucatoyou deserve another stick :)03:37
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RiddellHobbsee: I did indeed, thanks for that03:48
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Riddellnew kmobiletools beta out if anyone wants to package it04:16
_marseillaishi Hobbsee04:27
Hobbseeheya _marseillais04:27
_marseillaisHobbsee, do you have time for revu ?04:27
manchickenWhat is kmobiletools?04:27
_marseillaismanchicken, a phone communication apps04:28
_marseillaisbut it doesn't work with mine! :(04:28
Hobbsee_marseillais: no, sorry.  i'm blasting someone into my way of thinking, and have been successful, and after that, i really need to study for this impending exam of doom.04:34
_marseillaisoki Hobbsee no problem04:35
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fdovingTonio_: nice, what did you end up using to convert?05:01
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Tonio_fdoving: will show you the patch ;)05:02
fdovingcool :)05:04
xerosismhb: ping?05:21
Hobbseeheya xerosis05:21
xerosishi Hobbsee05:22
DaSkreechHobbsee: grats on Core05:23
HobbseeDaSkreech: thankyou :)05:23
Hobbseeapachelogger: :S05:23
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xerosisHobbsee: have you asked amarok about the installation bug?06:01
xerosis*mp3 installation06:01
Hobbseexerosis: sorry?  what about it?06:02
xerosisHobbsee: just wondered if they were aware of it is all06:02
xerosisHobbsee: seems a pretty obvious bug that's not getting much attention06:02
Hobbseexerosis: ahh, i keep not associating your nick with your LP name06:04
Hobbseetrue that.  i stopped looking at amarok06:04
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Hobbseefeel free to, if you wish06:05
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DaSkreechRiddell: look who turned up :)06:14
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Hobbseexerosis: poking is first.  threatening later.06:19
Mezyes Hobbsee ?06:21
DaSkreechRiddell: Mez is alive. And net enabled :)06:21
HobbseeMez: hello06:21
MezDaSkreech,  ?? he spoke to me yesterday06:21
Mezand hello Hobbsee06:21
Mezhave poeople really missed me that much06:21
Mezaw :(06:22
Mezmissed abusing me I guess06:22
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HobbseeDaSkreech: what's your opinino on writing a main inclusion report?06:22
DaSkreechIf I knew what that meant I would be more eloquent ;)06:23
HobbseeDaSkreech: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportTemplate06:24
MezHobbsee, MIC for whaT?06:24
HobbseeDaSkreech: need one for libkarma06:24
fdovingTonio_: still around?06:25
HobbseeDaSkreech: * libkarma (amarok. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/89591)06:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 89591 in amarok "Please package Amarok Rio Karma support (--with-libkarma)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] 06:25
HobbseeDaSkreech: thanks in advance :)06:25
Tonio_fdoving: yep06:26
Tonio_fdoving: I'm arround tommorow in my contrib days sponsored, will upload the patches then06:26
fdovingTonio_: can you check the state of kio-umountwrapper? is it stuck somewhere? lure uploaded it the 8th iirc.06:26
xerosiswhat's happening to kalarm in kde4?06:27
Tonio_fdoving: I'll ping tommorow on that point06:27
Tonio_fdoving: I'm late at work now...06:27
Hobbseexerosis: ask in #kde4-devel or do applicable searches.06:27
fdovingTonio_: ok.06:27
Hobbseepreferably in the other order06:27
Tonio_fdoving: ping me tomorrow :)06:27
xerosisHobbsee: thanks06:27
fdovingTonio_: i won't be around untill you finish work, i guess :)06:27
Tonio_fdoving: that's in my head for tomorrow06:28
fdovingTonio_: thanks.06:28
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nixternalcrimsun: I need to file a bug report concerning sound. Sometimes when I play videos, when the video starts it drops the PCM level in KMixer to where you can't hear any sound07:01
nixternalis this a KMixer problem or something else?07:01
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DaSkreechOh you too?07:04
nixternalit is annoying07:05
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nixternalDaSkreech: bug 119803 has already been reported by someone07:12
Riddellnixternal: kmplayer does that07:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119803 in kdemultimedia "kmix doesn't respect volume levels" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11980307:12
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Riddellother players shouldn't07:12
nixternalit is when I am using Konqui07:12
Riddellin gutsy or feisty?07:13
Riddellthat'll be kmplayer then07:13
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Hobbseenixternal: oh bug killer...07:13
DaSkreechthat has a high likely hood to use the kmplayer kpart i think07:13
HobbseeDaSkreech: did you agree to do that MIR, btw?07:13
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DaSkreechHobbsee: I haven't quite looked at it yet07:14
DaSkreechis there a hard deadline/07:14
Hobbseenot really.07:14
HobbseeDaSkreech: gutsy release, obviously07:15
nixternalRiddell: in that report, the reporter also states that kxineplayer does it as well07:15
DaSkreechOK yeah I can do that then07:15
Hobbseecool :)07:15
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nixternalyou are just now starting? Hell I have been phearing it for over a year now ;p07:18
Hobbseenixternal: i have more MIR's, if you want to write htem07:18
=== Hobbsee has a text file :P
=== nixternal goes to the moon
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nixternalHobbsee: sling em my way if you need me to do so...I have a little time before my hectic schedule starts today07:19
HobbseeMain Inclusion Reports:07:20
Hobbsee* Dolphin07:20
Hobbsee* libkarma (amarok. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/89591)07:20
Hobbsee* ksynaptics07:20
Hobbsee* KDE4 (eventually)07:20
ubotuLaunchpad bug 89591 in amarok "Please package Amarok Rio Karma support (--with-libkarma)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] 07:20
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Riddellnixternal: kxineplayer is part of kmplayer07:23
DaSkreechEventually ;-)07:23
DaSkreechWell adept_updater just crashed after updating adept_updater07:23
DaSkreech good thign I updated it huh?07:23
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mhbHobbsee: ksynaptics?07:40
mhbHobbsee: oh, sorry, that's the mouse management tool07:40
Hobbseemhb: someone was talking about it - there's a wishlist bug filed in kubuntu-meta07:40
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mhbHobbsee: I always mistake "Ksynaptics" for some apt package management tool07:41
Hobbseemhb: ksynaptic was a package management tool.07:43
fdovingwasn't it?07:43
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Hobbseeoh yes.07:44
mhbright, kynaptic07:44
mhbno wonder I mix them up :o)07:44
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nixternalHobbsee: we need to take a good look at the ksynaptics bugs before we decide on doing the MIR07:46
nixternalit seems a lot of people have issues with it07:46
Hobbseenixternal: true that.07:46
nixternalhaha, true that...good one07:46
Hobbseeit requires xorg.conf changes, iirc.07:46
nixternaltrue that07:47
nixternalI haven't heard that in a long long time07:47
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nixternalin Chicago that is pronounced 'true dat'07:47
Hobbseei'm Australian.  We speak English here.07:47
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nixternalhehe, chicago is a cest pool of languages07:48
nixternalChicagi is a huge Italian, Polish, Latino, and African American city...so all of the accents tend to run together making for some interesting accents07:48
nixternalcan't even spell that correctly07:49
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steveireHey. http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Kubuntu <<< Following this it says it won't work after alpha1. Is it important?08:18
mevensteveire it means that after alpha1 you have to compile cmake and qt4 instead of just having to install the packages08:24
steveiremeven: Are there instructions for that?08:24
mevenno absolutely not but this is what i understood08:24
fdovingthere are instructions for compiling qt-copy and cmake.. i think.08:25
mevensteveire no i am wrong08:25
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steveiremeven: about compiling or about instructions?08:26
mevensteveire the instructions are just some lines later08:26
fdovingsteveire: you can use cmake and dbus from kubuntu feisty, i do.08:26
mevenhttp://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#CMake and http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Qt08:26
fdovingsteveire: qt, strigi, and so on, needs to be compiled.08:27
meveni agree with fdoving08:27
fdovingmeven: don't need the cmake one.08:27
fdovingthe feisty one works well for me.08:27
mevengood to know08:27
mevenpersonnally i didnt succeed to compile KDE408:28
meveni think i will give i another shot08:28
meven i think i will give it another shot08:28
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DaSkreechkynaptic is turrible :(08:40
DaSkreechadept is so much better08:40
nosrednaekimthere's a kynaptic?08:41
DaSkreechAlways ahs been08:41
DaSkreechKubuntu 1 shipped with it08:41
DaSkreechI went back to Mandriva just because of it08:41
nosrednaekimreally... so its synaptic in qt?08:42
DaSkreechNo I think it just stole the name08:43
steveireI'm moving on on that getting started page. I've run make on dbus. Now I can't make install because I don't think my kde-devel user has sudo priveleges. Should I give them to that account?08:43
nosrednaekimDaSkreech: ahh... too bad.08:44
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steveireOr should I switch back to my regular account and run sudo make install there?08:44
xerosisnixternal: it was kxineplayer on mine08:45
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nosrednaekimsteveire: giving kde-devel sudo priveldges is fine as long as you set a good pasword08:45
steveirenosrednaekim: Will the alternative work?08:46
fdovingsteveire: you don't need that dbus. use the kubuntu one.08:46
fdovingsteveire: same goes for cmake, start from the Qt section.08:46
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: if you want synaptic on KDE then contribute o the project but I recall playing with it and thinking it would have been better to make people learn how to use the konsole than foist kynaptic on them08:46
nosrednaekimDaSkreech: lol. No actually I just want one thing in adept..08:47
nosrednaekimdownload scripts.08:47
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: I've heard of that and I saw the button in Synaptic.08:47
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: sell me on it08:47
fdovingwhat do they do?08:48
nosrednaekimYou see, I'm on dial up, so I can't get all the updates and such very easily08:48
nosrednaekim(not to mention new packages)08:48
DaSkreechfdoving:  you go through the motions of what you want to download then click a button and it will build a script that you can export to do it for you08:48
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: is that correct?08:48
DaSkreechit gets the debs from packages.ubuntu.com I think08:49
fdovingDaSkreech: ah, smart.08:49
nosrednaekimyeah... it makes a wget script. Then  I send it my dad at work and he gets the stuff for me08:49
fdovingDaSkreech: similar to apt-zip then.08:49
steveirefdoving: I think I was told I do need to install them from source?08:49
nosrednaekimfdoving: there's a command line utility for it? sweet.08:50
xerosishas anyone got a webpage to hand with an embedded video?08:50
fdovingsteveire: that's wrong. i use cmake and dbus from feisty with kde4.08:50
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nosrednaekimxerosis: youtube? ;)08:50
xerosisnosrednaekim: non-flash :p08:51
steveirefdoving: OK. Can't I use the qt4.3 from kubuntu too?08:51
fdovingsteveire: no. you must compile that.08:51
steveire'KDE is guaranteed to build against any Qt 4.3.'08:51
steveirefdoving: I don't see the difference between qt4.3 and qt4.3ubuntu08:52
fdovingsteveire: the qt4 in kubuntu is a beta, it's not the final qt 4.3.008:53
steveirefdoving: I see. Thanks.08:53
nosrednaekimfdoving: DaSkreech: so is there any chance we could get that functionality? I'd do it except I don't know C++08:53
fdovingnosrednaekim: make a wishlist bugreport on adept.08:53
nosrednaekimfdoving: ok..08:53
nosrednaekimIs Adept developed by kubuntu?08:55
steveireCould it be problematic mixing a lot of ubuntu debs and installed-from-source packages?08:55
DaSkreechit's contributed to08:55
fdovingnosrednaekim: manchicken does some adept hacking.08:55
nosrednaekimsteveire: no. as long as you build them as debs first.08:55
fdovingsteveire: not with the separate kde-devel user-setup explained in that tutorial.08:55
steveirefdoving: But make installing qt4 applies to everyone, not just kde-devel...08:56
fdovingsteveire: not if you set QTDIR as explained.08:57
fdovingsteveire: then it'll match the qt-copy svn checkout, and you don't even need to run make install.08:57
fdovingit'll be ready after 'make sub-src sub-tools'08:57
fdovingsteveire: important part: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Setting_up_the_environment08:58
rbrunhuberIf I choose a color depth on desktop installer, why is it ignored and 24 bits is used as default-depth anyways?08:58
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steveire[19:57]  <fdoving> it'll be ready after 'make sub-src sub-tools' <<< That's not on the page.09:00
fdovingsteveire: ok, 'make -j2' then. both works.09:02
nosrednaekimfdoving: should I file my wish bug on its launchpad entry?09:02
steveirefdoving: Cool. Thanks.09:02
fdovingnosrednaekim: yep, most likely to get fixed there, i guess, even if adept upstream is using kde-bts.09:02
nosrednaekimok. cool.09:03
manchickenfdoving: What, you mean adept has an upstream? :P09:04
nosrednaekimmanchicken: well well just the person I was looking for.09:05
fdovingimaginary upstream :)09:05
DaSkreechmanchicken: feverish dream upstream :-)09:10
steveireno objdir found. Tried /home/kde-devel/qt-copy <<< I get this when I try make -j209:11
steveireshould I just mkdir?09:14
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manchickenSomething is very wrong here...09:18
manchickenSomething keeps binding to my mouse, catching events before even xev sees them.09:18
manchickenSo that leads me to believe it's at the server level.09:18
fdovingmanchicken: is there a simple way to get the list of pacakges to be updated in adept?09:18
fdoving(looking for a shortcut, instead of reading libapt-front .h files)09:19
fdovingmanchicken: i'm in updater now, but i can move my feature to manager if that is easier.09:19
manchickenOkay, well there's the changelogs...09:19
manchickenI usually use that.09:20
fdovingi would need the url09:20
nosrednaekimI think ti would be better in manager anyway (If you are working on what I was talking about)09:20
fdovingto the package.09:20
manchickenfdoving: No you don't.  Just click the details button and go to the developer changelog tab.09:20
fdovingmanchicken: in code, i mean.09:20
steveireno objdir found. Tried /home/kde-devel/qt-copy <<< I get this when I try make -j2. What can I do?09:20
manchickenYou're modifying adept.  Gotcha.09:20
manchickenIf there was that'd be a apt-front thing I think...09:21
manchickenNot sure.09:21
fdovingok, i just downloaded that.. so i'll dive into it.09:23
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steveirehttp://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/trunk/KDE/kdesdk/scripts/makeobj <<< This is the only relevent result from a google search. I don't know what to do. Can anyone point me right?09:26
manchickenNever seen that one.09:26
DaSkreechanyone heard of kgrab?09:28
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nosrednaekimhow do I file a bug as a wishlist?09:32
nosrednaekimor does someone mod it so?09:32
steveirefdoving: Is make sub-src sub-tools a drop in replacement for make -j2?09:33
manchickenI don't know what the hell is going on, but this is really irritating.09:33
manchickenIn the middle of an X/KDE session something will hijack my number pad to make it control the mouse.09:34
manchickenI don't even see xev events for the key presses....09:34
DaSkreechThere is a button sequence to make the numberpad take over the mouse functions09:35
DaSkreechI did it once09:35
fdovingsteveire: as http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Setting_up_the_environment says, "Be sure to comment out the line alias make=makeobj if you do not have the makeobj command available. "09:35
steveirefdoving: The makeobj command is available though.09:36
fdovingsteveire: ok.09:36
fdovingsteveire: as for make sub-src sub-tools, those two will only run make in the src/ and tools/ directories.09:36
fdovingmake will do all09:36
fdovingor as specified in the makefile.09:37
steveirefdoving: Oh, wait: Or bash is completing makeobj from the alias.09:37
fdovingif anything, 'make' will only make more stuff than sub-src sub-tools.09:37
manchickenCrikey, I found it.09:38
manchickenIt's alt+f1209:38
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manchickenThat's one of those things that'd be awful handy if you know how to turn it on and off, but when it mysteriously comes on you don't expect it and it looks like a real issue.09:38
steveirefdoving: make: *** No rule to make target `sub-src'.  Stop.09:39
fdovingsteveire: is that qt?09:40
steveirefdoving: I'm still in the qt-copy directory.09:41
fdovingsteveire: did you apply patches, and run configure as the page says?09:41
steveirefdoving: Yes.09:41
steveireI'd copied and pasted and it stopped at make -j209:41
fdovingwhy don't you use 'make -j2' as it says?09:41
fdovinghow stopped?09:41
steveireno objdir found. Tried /home/kde-devel/qt-copy <<< I get this when I try make -j2. What can I do?09:42
fdovingwhere is your qt-copy checkout?09:42
steveiremakeobj is available as well, because I installed the kdesdk-scripts package.09:42
fdovingwhat does 'pwd' output?09:42
steveire /home/kde-devel/qt-cop09:42
steveirewith a y09:42
nosrednaekimfdoving: filed a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/120250 thanks alot!09:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 120250 in adept "Make dowload list available in Adept" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 09:43
nosrednaekimcrap I spelled it wrong..09:44
fdovingsteveire: try '/usr/bin/make -j2'09:45
steveiremake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.09:45
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fdovingthen you need to run the ./apply_patches and ./configure step again.09:45
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steveirefdoving: OK.09:46
steveireAh, should have looked at the configure output. The QtDBus module cannot be enabled because libdbus-1 version 0.62 was not found09:46
fdovingsteveire: get libdbus-1-dev09:50
crimsunnixternal: right, not alsa.09:50
steveirefdoving: Thanks. Configuring again.09:50
manchickenWas that put in as a wishlist or as a bug?09:55
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fdovingmanchicken: i changed it to that now.10:01
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mhbRiddell: have you seen this: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings/+spec/kubuntu-logout-dialog/ ?10:15
mhbRiddell: I've visited the Czech Ubuntu forums and some of them want that feature so much that they actually wrote a blueprint about it10:16
Riddelldunno what's wrong with just having them in the k-menu10:18
steveiremake takes a /long/ time10:18
mhbRiddell: I can request feedback in Czech, that should take less time10:19
mhbRiddell: I'll tell them to write a rationale for it, then10:19
Riddellwhy would you want to set the time to shutdown?10:20
Riddell"Luciano L??lis de Lima (funrei) wants to be a member of Kubuntu Members" ever heard of him?10:20
mhbI haven't10:21
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mhbRiddell: I could imagine some use cases but I'll ask them, perhaps they have better arguments for it10:24
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manchickenfdoving: Thanks.  Lots of adept bugs should be wishlist items.10:26
keescookheya, quick question, what kde app launches when a non-disk usb camera is plugged in?10:26
manchickenRiddell: If I had time for a little hackathon, would you prefer I work on kde4 system settings or adept bugs?10:27
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Riddellkwwii: dood!10:27
Riddellkwwii: I need pantone numbers from you10:27
mhbmanchicken: if you ask me, I'd prefer you go for two hackathons :o)10:27
Riddellmanchicken: system settings is good enough in my opinion, anything else on it is cosmetic and replacing qt/kde3 with new classes, but not essentia10:28
manchickenRiddell: That's not an answer :)10:29
Riddellmanchicken: probably adept features would be bestest10:29
Riddellbut whatever is most satisfying for you of course10:29
manchickenThe unicode issues are going to be the most fun.10:29
kwwiiRiddell: I do not have any pantone info on this machine (that is back in germany) - I will send an email to jane10:29
manchickenThose are STL's fault.10:29
Riddellkwwii: I don't think jane has it for that poster10:29
kwwiiahhaaa...now I see10:29
kwwiiwell, I do not have my mac with me so I cannot give them to you until next monday10:30
kwwiijane could give you the pantone colors for the logo though10:30
Riddellkwwii: are they the same?  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuArtwork looks lighter than http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu_akademy_banner.png10:31
kwwiino, the colors on the wiki are from the old version10:31
DaSkreechkeescook: you have hard disk usb cameras?10:31
kwwiithe new version is different10:32
kwwiiit was changed 2+ releases ago10:32
Riddellkwwii: when you're back in germany could you update that page then :)10:32
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RiddellDaSkreech: ?10:32
DaSkreechIt can't browse by keyboard :-(10:33
nixternalahh, xerosis is Kieran...howdy!! Great job on your bug work I have been seeing flooding the inbox :)10:33
DaSkreechIt's frustrating10:33
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DaSkreechEsp when trying to get to the mouse section!10:33
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DaSkreechnixternal: Was all your dream slanted and flying away from you?10:33
mhbif nobody touches that bug before feature freeze, I'll fix it then10:33
mhbDaSkreech: ^^10:33
nixternalDaSkreech: I don't know, but the volume went low, had to check PCM and fix it :)10:33
nixternaljdong: ktorrent 2.2rc1 is out, how come I dn't see an upload yet ?)10:34
mhbDaSkreech: It's one of my "so many people reported that bug to me that it has to be fixed otherwise I'd be in trouble" bugs10:35
DaSkreechmhb: Which?10:35
keescookDaSkreech: as in, it's a pure USB, it doesn't end up mounted on /disk/camera10:36
mhbDaSkreech: keyboard support for system settings10:36
DaSkreechmhb: pleasepleaseplease10:36
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DaSkreechI have two bugs for system settings and that's the only one I care about10:36
mhbDaSkreech: like I said, if nobody touches it before feature freeze, I will (try to) fix it after it10:37
DaSkreechMy other bug is with highlighting10:37
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xerosisnixternal: why thankyou :)10:40
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nixternalseems the Gnome side is going to use KHTML, possibly GtkHTML?10:42
nixternalinteresting reads...read stuff I didn't even know...Safari is based off of KHTML..I did not know that, I don't think10:43
DaSkreechnixternal: shame on you :)10:43
Riddellwhich read?10:43
nixternalPlanet Gnome10:43
DaSkreechYay! Attal is moving to a qt engine10:48
nosrednaekimwhat is Attal?10:48
nixternalThis engine is at the heart of KDE4, and is being brought to Gtk by the work put in by various contributors, including Alp's port to Maemo (Alp, you rock dude) making it valuable for GMAE and Gnome in general.10:49
nixternalThis engine == KHTML :)10:49
nixternaland webkit it seems has something to do...the write up was rather confusing to me, but I picked out GtkHTML10:50
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: No clue but it's using qt now :)10:53
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: it's on the front page of happypenguin.org10:53
nosrednaekimthts always good10:53
DaSkreech!info attal10:53
ubotuattal: turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1+cvs20060815-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1016 kB, installed size 3140 kB10:53
DaSkreechthere we go :)10:54
ubotuOh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!10:55
nosrednaekimThank bot10:55
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!10:55
nixternalman, I thought PCLinuxOS was based/forked from Debian...it is RPM based, it just uses Synaptics and apt-get, no yum10:56
DaSkreechI like the new Bot snack10:57
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steveireI've make'd qt. Finally :). Next strigi11:01
nixternalstrigi should be as as well as soprano..kdelibs is the fun one11:02
nixternalhrmm, I wonder if it is time to dist-upgrade to gutsy on my lappy11:03
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nixternalit is the new name from QRDF I believe11:05
nixternalseeing as it is a Qt based framework for RDF storage11:06
steveireI'm following http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Troubleshooting_2. And make just ran without any errors. I tried running assistant, but it returned: 'assistant: cannot connect to X server'11:06
DaSkreechnixternal: is that another Pillar of KDE4?11:06
nixternalyou need to export your display to 0.011:06
nixternalexport DISPLAY=:0.011:07
nixternalthen try and run it11:07
steveirenixternal: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server\n Xlib: No protocol specified\n\n assistant: cannot connect to X server :0.011:07
nixternalhow do you remove those icons from the desktop in gutsy? I thought that was fixed11:08
nixternalsteveire: you need to add the kde-devel user to the same groups as your normal user11:08
steveirenixternal: the admin group?11:09
Riddellnixternal: that gnome-khtml blog makes many innacurate assumptions11:09
nixternalheh, just open up kcontrol, and say "don't show icons on the desktop'11:10
nixternalRiddell: so I noticed...about the whole svn import from Apple?11:10
steveireThere's nothing about that on the page. Are you sure? How do I add it to all the neccessary groups?11:10
nixternalsudo groupadd kde-devel admin11:10
nixternallogout and log back in11:10
nixternalnot groupadd, useradd11:10
nixternalno, it is groupadd...I was looking on the wrong host11:11
nixternalsudo groupadd kde-devel admin11:11
steveiregroupadd makes a new group though...11:12
Riddellnixternal: ys11:12
nixternalyou can also use KMenu->System Settings11:13
nixternalRiddell: that is expected from that side of de camp if you ask me11:14
nixternalI have noticed so much fud on that planet in the past year...11:14
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nixternalgotta give it up to pk.o for not getting involved with the mudslinging11:14
steveirenixternal: You sure it's not usermod -a admin kde-devel?11:14
nixternalthat should work as well11:14
Riddellnixternal: hub is actually quite a KDE fan in many ways11:14
nixternalthere are 200 ways to skin that cat11:14
DaSkreechWhy is there perceived hostility between Gnome and Gearheads?11:15
DaSkreechnixternal: how would you know after the first one?11:15
nixternalDaSkreech: each of us hold similar passions11:15
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steveirenixternal: Same error after logout/in.11:17
nixternaldid you export the display again?11:17
nixternalhrmm, I have .bashrc export for me11:17
nixternaloh...I just realised you were trying assistant11:17
nixternalthat hasn't worked since the day they wrote that guide11:18
nixternalcontinue on :)11:18
steveireIs there something that does work?11:18
nixternalnot yet11:18
nixternalthat is just for Qt anyways11:18
nixternalyou will know if it didn't work when you go to build the next section11:18
nixternalstrigi, soprano, and kdelibs won't let you build if qt-copy didn't work11:18
crimsunDaSkreech: and then there are those of us who don't care, because the env is secondary to another purpose.11:20
steveireok. Cheeers.11:20
DaSkreechcrimsun: Praise be as long as it's not MS :)11:20
crimsunwell in nixternal's case, it is.11:20
nixternalActually, I do have XP on a 20GB partition, only because of my ASP.NET class11:21
nixternalother than that, you will see 2 Debian boxes running, a Kubuntu box, a Free-BSD box, and my Kubuntu lappy11:22
nixternalif you see XP running, that means I am doing homework11:22
nixternalpeople in Chicago will tell you, I beat up windows kids!11:22
crimsunsee? a bully.11:22
DaSkreechvery MS11:22
DaSkreechit's rubbing off11:22
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DaSkreechWell yeah11:23
nixternalschool is a great place to beat up MS kids, most of them talk about My Space all day long like it is the greatest thing since toilet paper11:23
DaSkreechnixternal: it's very close11:24
nixternalok, school time11:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:24
ubotuOh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!11:24
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manchickenThat looks neat.11:45
claydohhey everyone11:46
jjessehey doctor nick11:46
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DaSkreechmanchicken: Don't like it it11:48
DaSkreechmanchicken:  -it11:57
manchickenDon't like what?12:04
manchickenThe image?12:04
manchickenclaydoh: Yup.  It happens sometimes :)12:05
claydohI got involvrd in a top posting um 'debate' not too long ago12:06
DaSkreechmanchicken: yeah the alternate Kubuntu image12:06
claydohs/ involvrd /involved12:06
manchickenYeah.  I saw that one :)12:07
DaSkreechI'm not liking it :)12:07
manchickenAt least in that one you don't get asinine comparisons to train tickets and such.12:07
manchickenSoftware is no more like a train ride than a kitten is like space travel.12:08
DaSkreechtrain tickets?12:09
manchickenLong and painful story :)12:10
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