[12:17] sending... [12:17] mhb: sent [12:19] ryanakca: it's no spam, it's just a jerk [12:19] ryanakca: emailing to LP [12:20] mhb: if it's from the Recommends bug then hobbsee already contacted them [12:20] Riddell: it has been removed from LP [12:32] mhb: ah [12:34] manchicken: dood, tell me system settings in kde 4 isn't a work of perfection now! [12:43] Ooh, now I'm all excited. === manchicken svn up's [12:47] Yeah, other than the ugly icons (which I suspect are more problems with the .desktop files than anything else) and the weird page setups, that looks beautiful. [12:52] manchicken: the lack of icons is entirely down to oxygen not being complete [12:52] manchicken: the only question now is how we slip it into kdebase without anyone noticing [12:57] Riddell: We need to make it a little less ugly... === wsjunior [n=wsjunior@unaffiliated/wsjunior] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:02] manchicken: it's beautiful! [01:03] Riddell: A face only a mother could love that proggy. [01:03] what's wrong with it, besides the incomplete icons? [01:03] manchicken: screenshot or I don't believe you [01:04] I don't like the weird way the panes are set up. [01:04] I think it would be better if each group of icons was not in its own little page widget. [01:07] manchicken: it wants ported to klistview http://www.ereslibre.es/?p=49 [01:07] http://media.ereslibre.es/2007/06/klistviewselections.mpeg [01:07] which means re-writing all the search code etc [01:09] Why is that an mpeg? Weird.... [01:09] Screenshots normally get the job done here... [01:10] Hmm... [01:10] That's a list view? [01:10] Not bad. [01:12] told you before, list view in icon mode replaces KIconView [01:14] That's interesting. === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@N942P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:49] how come I can't view that mpeg file? [01:50] does Konqueror crash, or does the part simply appear to not play? [01:51] the part simply doesn't play [01:51] tried kaffeine, vlc, mplayer... [01:52] none of them play it [01:53] VIDEO: [FMP4] 974x716 24bpp 25.200 fps 814.6 kbps (99.4 kbyte/s) Selected video codec: [ffodivx] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-4) [01:53] mplayer (current gutsy) plays it [01:54] hrmm [01:57] I just get a lovely blue window [01:58] plays in konqueror here [01:59] hrmm, do I need some proprietary junk? === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:00] you may. I do have w32codecs installed. [02:00] it crashes vlc, shows a blue screen in kaffeine, and mplayer says something out output and -vo [02:01] I do now..and it is still a no go [02:01] feisty or gutsy? [02:01] feisty [02:02] got it === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.107.141] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.107.141] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:39] c# is horrible..it is vb for the internet [02:39] then again, vb isn't all that bad, except it is only good for one platform [02:40] s/vb isn't all that bad/vb isn't all that bad especially with beginner programmers/ [03:08] nixternal: tell me how you really feel? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === huahua [n=huahua@60.20.58.41] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:11] jjesse: that would be very unethical for me to tell you how I really feel ;) [03:13] i think my hotel bandwidth has been throttled down :( [03:13] http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/06/12/lolcat-alignright/ [03:13] that is good stuff right there [03:13] i've been trying to download an 8 gig file since monday night [03:13] almost done with it :( [03:13] I have downloaded 4 DVDs in the last 2 hours here [03:13] dang [03:14] then again I am using the uni ethernet [03:14] i'm only get 8.2 kb/sec [03:14] currently at 295.9 MB of 851.3 MB for this file :( [03:14] I now have Kubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE, and PC-BSD [03:14] nice [03:15] I bought a DVD burner a month back, and haven't burned a single disk with the darn thing [03:15] making up for that now? [03:15] just bought 2 19" widescreen monitors on Sunday, so I need to start using that box as a dev box [03:15] hehe ya === jjesse is trying convice wife i need a new computer at home for working on things [03:16] I went to buy 1 20.1" or whatever widescreen and the guy is like why? I have 19" widescreen for $129...he had 2 left so I bought them [03:16] but she keeps on wanting to use the money to pay off the windows, and bathroom remodel [03:16] 20.1" == $300, 2 x 19" == $260 [03:16] hrmm, I wonder ;) [03:16] nice [03:16] ahh, I did windows 2 years ago [03:16] I borrowed from my CD account [03:16] we did both this year [03:17] we are borrowing from our money market account [03:17] are they charging tax on that? [03:18] from our money market? we are just withdrawing the money [03:18] ahh, OK [03:18] so not really "borrowing" but it is our fun fund [03:18] you know your windows and bathroom possibly, can be claimed on the taxes [03:18] yup [03:18] I know I did it [03:18] tax credit [03:18] was an extra $1k I think [03:19] wow i'm down to 8 kb/sec on my transfer :( [03:19] hehe [03:19] I haven't been that slow since 1994 [03:19] err, 1995 [03:19] i think i can count the bits as they come across the line [03:19] hahahahaha [03:24] awesome justin verlander 6-th no hit game === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:25] oh first no hitter for him, 6th for the tiggers [03:31] I was gonna say, 6 no-hitters for one pitcher is like a record or something [03:31] yeah [03:31] what is the address for ebn? don't have it bookmarked on vm [03:32] never mind [03:33] englishbreakfastnetwork [03:33] ;p === attickid [n=attickid@190.65.140.206] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.120.127] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.221.116] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A72227.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-70-78.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44280.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === giangy [n=giangy@voyager.techtemple.org] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.176.77] has joined #kubuntu-devel === paran [n=paran@cust.fiber-lan.snet.lk.212.214.112.112.visit.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t is now known as hunger === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.107.141] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F1754.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aplg [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:45] <_marseillais> does someone has time for a revu ? === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:07] hey ;) [10:18] fdoving: done :) will upload the ark fix today [10:19] hey Tonio_ :) [10:32] yop giangy ;) === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:19] <_StefanS_> gday [12:19] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: hey [12:19] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: Helmut just applied my patch to the knetworkmanager extragear branch [12:19] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: branches/extragear/kde3/network/knetworkmanager [12:19] good day to all. and to all a good night :) [12:19] <_StefanS_> good night Jucato [12:20] hehehe [12:20] er... s/night/evening/ [12:20] sheesh :( === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F1754.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:50] _StefanS_: superb ! [01:56] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yep, he asked me if we should release 0.2 now as it is, or wait until the gui was redesigned. I told him to release now, and redesign gui later. Then we can hopefully have it in gutsy if nm0.6.5 makes it [01:56] <_StefanS_> ah what is that terminal program called for rs232 connections.. [01:58] <_StefanS_> ah minicom :D === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4478f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aplg is now known as apachelogger === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:08] _StefanS_: great ;) [03:08] hiya Tonio_ === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387D11B.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:08] yop Hobbsee [03:08] <_StefanS_> hop jobsee === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387D11B.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:18] I have baby pictures!!! [03:18] congratulations!!! [03:19] yay, manchicken! [03:19] I'm gonna put one up. === Arby [n=richard@82.152.174.67] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:20] manchicken: isn't it a bit soon for that? [03:20] Riddell: Dacia had an ultrasound yesterday. [03:20] http://imagepaste.nulldigital.net/viewimage.php?id=244 [03:21] manchicken: woo :) [03:21] aww, an ickle manchicken [03:21] It was moving around and everything. [03:21] hehe [03:22] it's saying "where's my internet connection" [03:22] Totally. [03:22] haha [03:22] "Plug in mommy! It's time to hack!" [03:29] I wish Firefox would use the KDE file dialogs. [03:30] hm.. wasn't there a sort of "hack" to do that? === Jucato researches [03:31] Jucato: there were hacks to do that for GTK file dialogs, kde-apps likely [03:32] yeah. I forgot the name... researching for manchicken [03:32] but I wish Firefox could also opened files with appropriate KDE apps [03:32] I found a hack to get it to use kmail instead of evolution, which is nice. [03:33] mhb: It can if you do much tinkering. [03:33] Because there are just some web programs that don't work in konq. [03:33] TinyMCE doesn't work very well in konq, so I use firefox with wordpress. [03:37] manchicken: yeah, I'd expect the distro to do the tinkering for me, especially a distro that "just works" .o) [03:37] Yup :) [03:37] http://gentoo-wiki.com/index.php?title=HOWTO_Integrate_Firefox_with_KDE or http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36077 [03:37] It would seem that despite our vastly superior desktop environment, they still abuse and neglect us. [03:37] manchicken: tell is to gnomefreak, he was thinking about a kde-firefox package [03:37] Riddell: That's a splendid idea. === Hobbsee is interested in that too. [03:37] mhb: I think there's something in about:config for that? [03:37] Riddell: did you hear we have a proper kubuntu-restricted-extras now inside ubuntu-restricted-extras, and i fixed lots of the bugs in it? :) [03:37] woot Hobbsee!! :) [03:37] :) [03:37] you deserve another stick :) === Hobbsee fixed all but one - which should really be fixed in the individual packages [03:37] hehe === Hobbsee wants a pony! [03:39] http://blog.notsosoft.net/2007/baby/baby-pictures.html === sahin_w [n=KT@210.216.53.194] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sahin_w [n=KT@210.216.53.194] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:48] Hobbsee: I did indeed, thanks for that [03:50] :) === Hobbsee even got to be co-maintainer of it :D [04:16] new kmobiletools beta out if anyone wants to package it [04:27] <_marseillais> hi Hobbsee [04:27] heya _marseillais [04:27] <_marseillais> Hobbsee, do you have time for revu ? [04:27] What is kmobiletools? [04:28] <_marseillais> manchicken, a phone communication apps [04:28] <_marseillais> but it doesn't work with mine! :( [04:34] _marseillais: no, sorry. i'm blasting someone into my way of thinking, and have been successful, and after that, i really need to study for this impending exam of doom. [04:35] <_marseillais> oki Hobbsee no problem === Lure_ [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === haggai [n=halls@credativ.bcnadsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p549671B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-124.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=skreech@katapult/ninja/daskreech] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:01] Tonio_: nice, what did you end up using to convert? === IppatsuManXYZ [n=kvirc@213-140-19-123.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:02] fdoving: will show you the patch ;) [05:04] cool :) [05:21] mhb: ping? [05:21] heya xerosis [05:22] hi Hobbsee [05:23] Hobbsee: grats on Core [05:23] DaSkreech: thankyou :) [05:23] apachelogger: :S === Bent_ [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sahin_w [n=KT@210.216.53.194] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@N863P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger [06:01] Hobbsee: have you asked amarok about the installation bug? [06:01] *mp3 installation [06:02] xerosis: sorry? what about it? [06:02] Hobbsee: just wondered if they were aware of it is all [06:02] Hobbsee: seems a pretty obvious bug that's not getting much attention [06:04] xerosis: ahh, i keep not associating your nick with your LP name [06:04] true that. i stopped looking at amarok === Hobbsee has milestoned it, will poke someone into fixing it later [06:05] feel free to, if you wish [06:05] s/poke/threaten [06:05] :) === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180071063.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:14] Riddell: look who turned up :) [06:14] hmm? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.100.249] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-139-223.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:19] Mez!!! [06:19] xerosis: poking is first. threatening later. [06:21] yes Hobbsee ? [06:21] Riddell: Mez is alive. And net enabled :) [06:21] Mez: hello [06:21] DaSkreech, ?? he spoke to me yesterday [06:21] and hello Hobbsee [06:21] have poeople really missed me that much [06:21] :-P [06:22] yes [06:22] aw :( [06:22] missed abusing me I guess === DaSkreech waits for Hobbsee to get out the pokkey stick === meven [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-124-19.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:22] DaSkreech: what's your opinino on writing a main inclusion report? [06:23] If I knew what that meant I would be more eloquent ;) [06:24] DaSkreech: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportTemplate [06:24] Hobbsee, MIC for whaT? [06:24] DaSkreech: need one for libkarma [06:25] Tonio_: still around? [06:25] DaSkreech: * libkarma (amarok. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/89591) [06:25] Launchpad bug 89591 in amarok "Please package Amarok Rio Karma support (--with-libkarma)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [06:25] DaSkreech: thanks in advance :) [06:26] fdoving: yep [06:26] fdoving: I'm arround tommorow in my contrib days sponsored, will upload the patches then [06:26] Tonio_: can you check the state of kio-umountwrapper? is it stuck somewhere? lure uploaded it the 8th iirc. [06:27] what's happening to kalarm in kde4? [06:27] fdoving: I'll ping tommorow on that point [06:27] fdoving: I'm late at work now... [06:27] xerosis: ask in #kde4-devel or do applicable searches. [06:27] Tonio_: ok. [06:27] preferably in the other order [06:27] fdoving: ping me tomorrow :) [06:27] Hobbsee: thanks [06:27] Tonio_: i won't be around untill you finish work, i guess :) [06:28] fdoving: that's in my head for tomorrow [06:28] Tonio_: thanks. === Arby [n=richard@82.152.178.134] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ScottK-laptop [n=kitterma@166.129.40.221] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:01] crimsun: I need to file a bug report concerning sound. Sometimes when I play videos, when the video starts it drops the PCM level in KMixer to where you can't hear any sound [07:01] is this a KMixer problem or something else? === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:04] Oh you too? [07:05] yup [07:05] it is annoying === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-189.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jonasp [i=jonas@i59F72EE8.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:12] DaSkreech: bug 119803 has already been reported by someone [07:12] nixternal: kmplayer does that [07:12] Launchpad bug 119803 in kdemultimedia "kmix doesn't respect volume levels" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119803 === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4478f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:12] other players shouldn't [07:12] ahhh [07:12] it is when I am using Konqui [07:13] in gutsy or feisty? [07:13] Feisty [07:13] that'll be kmplayer then === Hobbsee kills more kde bugs [07:13] nixternal: oh bug killer... [07:13] that has a high likely hood to use the kmplayer kpart i think [07:13] DaSkreech: did you agree to do that MIR, btw? === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-189.200.popsite.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [07:14] Hobbsee: I haven't quite looked at it yet [07:14] is there a hard deadline/ [07:14] not really. [07:15] DaSkreech: gutsy release, obviously [07:15] Riddell: in that report, the reporter also states that kxineplayer does it as well [07:15] OK yeah I can do that then [07:15] cool :) === Hobbsee will chase you if you dont, dont worry :) === DaSkreech starts to phear the stick [07:18] you are just now starting? Hell I have been phearing it for over a year now ;p [07:18] haha [07:18] nixternal: i have more MIR's, if you want to write htem === Hobbsee has a text file :P === nixternal goes to the moon === Hobbsee is starting to write text file TODO lists and such. === Hobbsee blows up the moon. [07:19] Hobbsee: sling em my way if you need me to do so...I have a little time before my hectic schedule starts today [07:19] brb [07:20] Main Inclusion Reports: [07:20] * Dolphin [07:20] * libkarma (amarok. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/89591) [07:20] * ksynaptics [07:20] * KDE4 (eventually) [07:20] Launchpad bug 89591 in amarok "Please package Amarok Rio Karma support (--with-libkarma)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-022-057.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:23] nixternal: kxineplayer is part of kmplayer [07:23] Eventually ;-) [07:23] Well adept_updater just crashed after updating adept_updater [07:23] good thign I updated it huh? === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:28] haha === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4478f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Bent_ is now known as Bent [07:40] Hobbsee: ksynaptics? [07:40] Hobbsee: oh, sorry, that's the mouse management tool [07:40] mhb: someone was talking about it - there's a wishlist bug filed in kubuntu-meta === Hobbsee has a crazy eye for detail, and remembering things, unless it's the answer to "what's the time?" or "what's for dinner?" or "what's the weather?" and similar questions [07:41] Hobbsee: I always mistake "Ksynaptics" for some apt package management tool [07:43] mhb: ksynaptic was a package management tool. [07:43] kynaptic [07:43] wasn't it? === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4478f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:44] oh yes. [07:44] right, kynaptic [07:44] no wonder I mix them up :o) === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:46] Hobbsee: we need to take a good look at the ksynaptics bugs before we decide on doing the MIR [07:46] it seems a lot of people have issues with it [07:46] nixternal: true that. [07:46] haha, true that...good one [07:46] it requires xorg.conf changes, iirc. [07:47] yup [07:47] hrm? [07:47] true that [07:47] I haven't heard that in a long long time === Hobbsee says "true that" a lot. the people at UDS would know :P [07:47] in Chicago that is pronounced 'true dat' [07:47] i'm Australian. We speak English here. === Hobbsee ducks [07:48] hehe, chicago is a cest pool of languages [07:48] Chicagi is a huge Italian, Polish, Latino, and African American city...so all of the accents tend to run together making for some interesting accents [07:49] Chicago! [07:49] can't even spell that correctly === kwwii [n=kwwii@207.47.10.130.static.nextweb.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4478f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99 [n=n8k99@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44041.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === steveire [n=stephen@unaffiliated/steveire] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:18] Hey. http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Kubuntu <<< Following this it says it won't work after alpha1. Is it important? [08:24] steveire it means that after alpha1 you have to compile cmake and qt4 instead of just having to install the packages [08:24] meven: Are there instructions for that? [08:24] no absolutely not but this is what i understood [08:25] there are instructions for compiling qt-copy and cmake.. i think. [08:25] steveire no i am wrong === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:26] meven: about compiling or about instructions? [08:26] steveire the instructions are just some lines later [08:26] steveire: you can use cmake and dbus from kubuntu feisty, i do. [08:26] http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#CMake and http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Qt [08:27] steveire: qt, strigi, and so on, needs to be compiled. [08:27] i agree with fdoving [08:27] meven: don't need the cmake one. [08:27] the feisty one works well for me. [08:27] good to know [08:28] personnally i didnt succeed to compile KDE4 [08:28] i think i will give i another shot [08:28] i think i will give it another shot === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-204.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:40] kynaptic is turrible :( [08:40] adept is so much better [08:41] there's a kynaptic? [08:41] Always ahs been [08:41] Kubuntu 1 shipped with it [08:41] I went back to Mandriva just because of it [08:42] really... so its synaptic in qt? [08:43] No I think it just stole the name [08:43] I'm moving on on that getting started page. I've run make on dbus. Now I can't make install because I don't think my kde-devel user has sudo priveleges. Should I give them to that account? [08:44] DaSkreech: ahh... too bad. === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@adsl-72-50-48-230.prtc.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:44] Or should I switch back to my regular account and run sudo make install there? [08:45] nixternal: it was kxineplayer on mine === xerosis goes to find a video [08:45] steveire: giving kde-devel sudo priveldges is fine as long as you set a good pasword [08:46] nosrednaekim: Will the alternative work? [08:46] steveire: you don't need that dbus. use the kubuntu one. [08:46] steveire: same goes for cmake, start from the Qt section. [08:46] nosrednaekim: if you want synaptic on KDE then contribute o the project but I recall playing with it and thinking it would have been better to make people learn how to use the konsole than foist kynaptic on them [08:46] OMO [08:47] DaSkreech: lol. No actually I just want one thing in adept.. [08:47] download scripts. [08:47] nosrednaekim: I've heard of that and I saw the button in Synaptic. [08:47] download-scripts? [08:47] nosrednaekim: sell me on it [08:48] what do they do? [08:48] You see, I'm on dial up, so I can't get all the updates and such very easily [08:48] (not to mention new packages) [08:48] fdoving: you go through the motions of what you want to download then click a button and it will build a script that you can export to do it for you [08:48] nosrednaekim: is that correct? [08:49] it gets the debs from packages.ubuntu.com I think [08:49] DaSkreech: ah, smart. [08:49] yeah... it makes a wget script. Then I send it my dad at work and he gets the stuff for me [08:49] DaSkreech: similar to apt-zip then. [08:49] very [08:49] fdoving: I think I was told I do need to install them from source? [08:50] fdoving: there's a command line utility for it? sweet. [08:50] has anyone got a webpage to hand with an embedded video? [08:50] steveire: that's wrong. i use cmake and dbus from feisty with kde4. === hunger [n=tobias@p54A72227.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:50] xerosis: youtube? ;) [08:51] nosrednaekim: non-flash :p [08:51] fdoving: OK. Can't I use the qt4.3 from kubuntu too? [08:51] steveire: no. you must compile that. [08:51] 'KDE is guaranteed to build against any Qt 4.3.' [08:52] fdoving: I don't see the difference between qt4.3 and qt4.3ubuntu [08:53] steveire: the qt4 in kubuntu is a beta, it's not the final qt 4.3.0 [08:53] fdoving: I see. Thanks. [08:53] fdoving: DaSkreech: so is there any chance we could get that functionality? I'd do it except I don't know C++ [08:53] nosrednaekim: make a wishlist bugreport on adept. [08:53] fdoving: ok.. [08:55] Is Adept developed by kubuntu? [08:55] Could it be problematic mixing a lot of ubuntu debs and installed-from-source packages? [08:55] it's contributed to [08:55] nosrednaekim: manchicken does some adept hacking. [08:55] steveire: no. as long as you build them as debs first. [08:55] steveire: not with the separate kde-devel user-setup explained in that tutorial. [08:56] fdoving: But make installing qt4 applies to everyone, not just kde-devel... [08:57] steveire: not if you set QTDIR as explained. [08:57] steveire: then it'll match the qt-copy svn checkout, and you don't even need to run make install. [08:57] it'll be ready after 'make sub-src sub-tools' [08:58] steveire: important part: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Setting_up_the_environment [08:58] If I choose a color depth on desktop installer, why is it ignored and 24 bits is used as default-depth anyways? === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F1754.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:00] [19:57] it'll be ready after 'make sub-src sub-tools' <<< That's not on the page. [09:02] steveire: ok, 'make -j2' then. both works. [09:02] fdoving: should I file my wish bug on its launchpad entry? [09:02] fdoving: Cool. Thanks. [09:02] nosrednaekim: yep, most likely to get fixed there, i guess, even if adept upstream is using kde-bts. [09:03] ok. cool. [09:04] fdoving: What, you mean adept has an upstream? :P [09:05] :) [09:05] manchicken: well well just the person I was looking for. [09:05] imaginary upstream :) [09:10] manchicken: feverish dream upstream :-) [09:11] no objdir found. Tried /home/kde-devel/qt-copy <<< I get this when I try make -j2 [09:14] should I just mkdir? === meven_ [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-145-122.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:18] Something is very wrong here... [09:18] Something keeps binding to my mouse, catching events before even xev sees them. [09:18] So that leads me to believe it's at the server level. [09:18] manchicken: is there a simple way to get the list of pacakges to be updated in adept? [09:19] Manager? [09:19] (looking for a shortcut, instead of reading libapt-front .h files) [09:19] manchicken: i'm in updater now, but i can move my feature to manager if that is easier. [09:19] Okay, well there's the changelogs... [09:20] I usually use that. [09:20] i would need the url [09:20] I think ti would be better in manager anyway (If you are working on what I was talking about) [09:20] to the package. [09:20] fdoving: No you don't. Just click the details button and go to the developer changelog tab. [09:20] manchicken: in code, i mean. [09:20] no objdir found. Tried /home/kde-devel/qt-copy <<< I get this when I try make -j2. What can I do? [09:20] Oooooh. [09:20] You're modifying adept. Gotcha. [09:21] If there was that'd be a apt-front thing I think... [09:21] Not sure. [09:23] ok, i just downloaded that.. so i'll dive into it. [09:23] Anyone? === hunger [n=tobias@p54A72227.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:26] http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/trunk/KDE/kdesdk/scripts/makeobj <<< This is the only relevent result from a google search. I don't know what to do. Can anyone point me right? [09:26] Never seen that one. [09:26] Sorry. [09:28] anyone heard of kgrab? === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-204.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:32] how do I file a bug as a wishlist? [09:32] or does someone mod it so? [09:33] fdoving: Is make sub-src sub-tools a drop in replacement for make -j2? [09:33] I don't know what the hell is going on, but this is really irritating. [09:34] In the middle of an X/KDE session something will hijack my number pad to make it control the mouse. [09:34] I don't even see xev events for the key presses.... [09:35] There is a button sequence to make the numberpad take over the mouse functions [09:35] I did it once [09:35]