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angrycoreantonis: turn into kde? o.O12:15
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BluesKajantonis, run adept or apt package manager to install more apps from sources12:15
antonishow can i use kde sessions feature????12:15
angrycoreopen kcontrol12:15
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angrycoreantonis: there go to smth like 'kde components"12:16
Ze_Mi did run the adept_installer but i cant find xchat ot other known programs to install, any help?12:16
angrycoreantonis: session manager12:17
angrycoreZe_M: try adept_manager12:18
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Ze_Mangrycore: whereisit12:19
angrycoreZe_M: find there a button with two green arrows12:19
angrycorepress alt+F212:19
angrycoretype there adept_manager12:20
angrycorepress enter)12:20
arkanabarI forget how to mount a partition....12:20
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angrycorearkanabar: man mount ?12:21
arkanabarI need to mount them to look at them, so I know which one to blow to install Feisty from disk.12:21
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angrycoreZe_M: honetly i don't like adept - aptitude is much better in my opinion12:22
Ze_Mdoesnt appear any outputfor xchat search12:23
afrolhello, folks. I think my friend on ubuntu gutsy may have found a problem with the new version of boost (1.34).12:23
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afrolit looks as if xmmsclient-c++ is looking for 1.33.112:24
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Ze_Mafterte packages are installed are they erased?12:24
afrolnopaste of errors (when compiling client): http://rafb.net/p/DWmo8S56.html12:24
Ze_Mi dont see any option to keep downloaded packages    afterinstall12:24
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afrolwith libboost-signals-dev 1.34 installed12:25
ejortegauhey guys. any help with php? i tried #php but i'm getting redirected to #overflow :(12:25
angrycoreZe_M: you don't have to12:25
angrycoreZe_M: you can recreate them any time you want12:25
angrycoredpkg can do that12:26
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angrycorebut i dont remember exact commands for it012:26
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angrycoreif you want  to install xchat try alt+F2 -> konsole12:27
angrycoretype there: sudo aptitude update12:27
angrycorethen: sudo aptitude install xchat12:28
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angrycoreif it wont help check your /etc/apt/sources.list12:28
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Level15hey guys. i'm trying to use mail() function to send mail (obviously). i'm setting up extra headers to be From: user@host, but the mailserver bounces them since apparently he is getting something like mail from: www-data@server. any ideas?12:29
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L-_-_-_-_-_-RThis nickname is awesome.12:32
L-_-_-_-_-_-RLeft        Right12:32
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L-_-_-_-_-_-RAnyone here use Linux?12:32
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Goliath23you don't? :)12:33
TailsfanDoes Kubuntu support FAT32 USB Hard Drives?12:33
doronb2someone can help????12:33
Goliath23Tailsfan: yes.12:34
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Goliath23doronb2: whats the problem?12:34
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TailsfanOK, Because whenever I plug in my Buslink Drive, It won't show up on the desktop or the Storage Media area12:35
vince_join #kubuntu-fr12:35
vince_lol ->12:35
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doronb2please visit - http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3084179 and read my problem (its long.. i put a screenshot there also)12:35
Goliath23Tailsfan: does it have an external power supply?12:35
Tailsfanand it's plugged in12:35
Goliath23Tailsfan: what version of kubuntu are you using?12:36
TailsfanGetting Ready to use 7.0412:36
Goliath23and updating from what version?12:37
TailsfanNo Other, I'm installing ot fresh from XP12:37
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Goliath23Tailsfan: is it already installed? I would expect that it displays a dialog if you put in an usb disk12:38
TailsfanNot Yet12:38
Goliath23doronb2: this is what you geht if you try to boot the CD?12:38
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Goliath23doronb2: after you hit install, I mean?12:39
L-_-_-_-_-_-ROnly nickname that wasn't already registered. :)12:39
doronb2also if i press "check CD" or any other possebility12:39
TailsfanBRB 5-10 Mins12:40
Goliath23doronb2: I don't have a clue what causes this behaviour, but you could try to add an additional kernel option "noapic".12:40
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doronb2i dont understand. what i need to do? how i add this?12:41
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Goliath23i'm searching for a helpful forum thread right now12:41
xerohow do you get sound in a flash plugin in firefox?12:42
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doronb2thanks Goliath2312:42
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Goliath23doronb2: what are all the other options called on the boot screen beside "install" there must be an option where you can edit the kernel boot parameters. adding the word "noapic" to it might help in your case.. not sure.12:45
Goliath23you could also try the alternate install cd available on the mirrors12:45
darkrift_doronb2: , try different versions too12:45
doronb2i tried 3 altenatives mirrors12:45
darkrift_not diff mirrors12:46
doronb2threr isnt any option to edit the kernel12:46
darkrift_not edit kernel12:46
darkrift_edit boot options12:46
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darkrift_should be the 2rd option down on the boot list12:46
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darkrift_it should pop up a little text box with some text in it that you can type in12:47
darkrift_add noapic to teh end of that12:47
doronb2i tried them all... really12:47
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doronb2whats "noapic"?12:47
darkrift_advanced power erm..... forgot12:47
darkrift_but i know sometimes it works :)12:47
darkrift_mine wouldnt boot without it (from cd)12:48
Goliath23advanced programmable interrupt controller12:48
darkrift_there we go12:48
darkrift_just try it12:48
darkrift_cant hurt12:48
doronb2thanks for trying but there isnt an option that i can edit boot params12:48
darkrift_there IS if you used teh kubuntu 7.04 cd12:49
Goliath23some standard which is not implemented very well by some bios vendors as far as I know and therefore causing troubles on systems other than windows sometimes12:49
darkrift_cause i just installed a few days ago and i used that same cd12:49
Goliath23on the same pc?12:49
Goliath23did you add a pci card since then?12:49
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doronb2ok i'm trying again and will return in 5 minutes. THANKS GOLIATH AND DARKRIFT12:50
darkrift_good luck12:50
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doronb2ok, before i'm restarting i tried to boot in my virtual box, just to show the menu options. i printscreened and there are the options - http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5668/65607520df9.jpg12:55
doronb2please check12:55
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jhutchinsdoronb2: What happens when you pres Esc?12:56
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doronb2i'm entering a text mode interface12:57
doronb2(at least in the VB.. hopefully also in the real restart)12:58
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arash_Totally new to KDE01:06
arash_how do I add profiles, so family members can sign in?01:07
MinatakuThey don't deserve the privilige!01:07
MinatakuBut I don't know, I'm sure someone here does, though01:07
arash_Yea, they are suickers for MS, anyway, how01:07
MinatakuMaybe the bot might01:07
ubotuTo add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo01:07
MinatakuThere we go :D01:07
MinatakuNow force them to use nothing but Kubuntu01:08
MinatakuOr some other form of "Not Windows"01:08
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doronb2any ideas of helping with my problem???01:08
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Minatakudoronb2: You need to set custom boot options01:09
SuperPerroFlashihey, I had a question01:10
MinatakuUgh, a dumbass custom menu thing01:10
SuperPerroFlashidon't know if you guys could help me01:10
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coreymon77!ask | SuperPerroFlashi01:10
ubotuSuperPerroFlashi: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:10
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doronb2Minataku : how can i do that?01:11
SuperPerroFlashisimple: can't get ethernet to work with FF01:11
SuperPerroFlashiwhich does work with BB01:11
Minatakudoronb2: I have no clue how to edit boot options from that idiot menu01:11
Minatakudoronb2: Just hang around, but don't ask more than once every 10 or 15 minutes01:11
doronb2and NOT from this menu how can i do it??01:11
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SuperPerroFlashiand... that's weird01:12
Minatakudoronb2: Say, have you tried the alternative install CD?01:12
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal01:12
doronb2mmmmm... i didn't get it.. why dont ask more than once every 15 min??01:12
SuperPerroFlashiit works out of the box with BB (Live DVD), but does not with FF01:12
Minatakudoronb2: Because it's rather annoying01:12
MinatakuSuperPerroFlashi: BB? FF?01:13
arash_Hello, how do I increase my screen resolution, i got 1024x786 I think01:13
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SuperPerroFlashiBreezy, Feisty01:13
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:13
MinatakuSuperPerroFlashi: Ah01:13
arash_but I know it can got faaaaaaaaaaar more, like 1900*1200 wsomnething01:13
MinatakuNo idea01:13
doronb2minataku: i tried alternatives install cd's01:13
SuperPerroFlashiah, yeah... it's puzzled quite some ppl already01:13
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SuperPerroFlashi(myself being the first)01:13
Minatakudoronb2: Then I'm stuck, sorry01:13
MinatakuSuperPerroFlashi: Wireless?01:14
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doronb2uboto: where can i find this "expert" install cd??01:14
cablesdoronb2: ubotu is a bot01:14
Minataku!alternate | doronb201:14
ubotudoronb2: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal01:14
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SuperPerroFlashiethernet bband01:14
MinatakuSuperPerroFlashi: Hrm... I know of at least one case where some dumbass left a driver out of Feisty01:15
SuperPerroFlashino funky wireless super-fine stuff01:15
tailsfanBack, Sorry I took long01:15
SuperPerroFlashino, Driver's there, checked01:15
MinatakuI hope that's not the issue with you01:15
MinatakuOh,that's good01:15
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MinatakuSuperPerroFlashi: Perhaps you need to manually configure it01:15
tailsfanOK, I think I figured out what my problem is with the USB Hard Drive01:15
MinatakuSuperPerroFlashi: Try that01:15
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MinatakuIf automatic doesn't work, try manual01:16
doronb2ok... how can i get this EXPERT cd?01:16
SuperPerroFlashihowever... you might realize i'm an absolute ignorant01:16
MinatakuIt's not broken unless neither works01:16
Minatakudoronb2: I already had ubotu tell you01:16
MinatakuIt's not my fault if you refused to pay attentio01:16
tailsfanDo you have to install a package to recognize SCSI Drives?01:16
Minatakutailsfan: SCSI Emulation should be there by default01:16
doronb2it said " see also !minimal"... what is minimal?01:16
ubotuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD01:16
MinatakuGet the Alternate, though, first01:17
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tailsfanOK, because whenever I did install my HDD on Windows, I get "USB-IDE Bridge" followed by "SCSI Adapter00"01:17
MinatakuIt should be in the same place that you got the regular one01:17
SuperPerroFlashihowever, I'm still puzzled... how come it works so easily with Breezy?01:17
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Minatakutailsfan: Right, the bridge functions using SCSI transport protocol01:17
MinatakuSuperPerroFlashi: No idea01:17
tailsfanand it's showing up on Kubuntu, my Drive01:18
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doronb2minataku: thanks, i'll give it a try01:18
Minatakutailsfan: So what's the problem then?01:18
Minatakudoronb2: Good luck01:18
SuperPerroFlashithanks anyways01:18
doronb2minataku: but the minimal is ubuntu, not Kubuntu...01:19
Minatakudoronb2: There is a minimal Kubuntu CD01:19
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tailsfanWheneverI plug in my USB Hard Drive, Kubuntu will not show the icon on the Desktop or Storage Media areas01:19
MinatakuThey're actually all the same distro, more or less01:19
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MinatakuJust with a different xxxxx-desktop package01:19
SuperPerroFlashiminimal? as in Zip kinda size?01:20
MinatakuNo, minimal as in nothing on the CD01:20
MinatakuThe way it SHOULD be, really, a network install01:20
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doronb2ok... THANKS!01:20
MinatakuThe only reason you'd need a CD with packages on it is because you have no network01:20
Minatakudoronb2: Again, good luck01:20
SuperPerroFlashimmhh... OR... you can't get the internet to work...01:21
doronb2at last.. someone that helps..01:21
SuperPerroFlashiactually: can't get to access the internet...01:21
tailsfanIf it helps, according to KInfoCenter, It shows up in there as "USB-ATAPI4 Bridge Controller"01:21
MinatakuSuperPerroFlashi: Have you tried manual configuration?01:21
Minatakutailsfan: What filesystem is on this drive?01:21
SuperPerroFlashimanual configuration... as in?01:21
MinatakuSuperPerroFlashi: Manually entering network configuration information01:22
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SuperPerroFlashiyep, tried, but don't bet on it...01:22
tailsfanIf that ain't the Problem, It could be that the drive is NTFS01:22
SuperPerroFlashimaybe I just did nothing right01:22
SuperPerroFlashiwhat "should" i do? to properly configure it?01:23
MinatakuLet's see if the bot has any wisdom on this01:23
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:23
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MinatakuNot all networking is wireless, damnit01:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ethernet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:23
ubotudhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP01:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about atapi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:24
rootusrDoes Work Kubunty With Windows Vista /New File System) in the same PC?01:24
MinatakuBluesKaj: You take over01:24
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:24
MinatakuSorry, I'm not in prime thinking mode ATM X301:24
BluesKajno Minataku, i'm going out to have a beer on the patio01:24
rootusrVindows vista nes file system is "WinSF"01:25
MinatakuNo, Kubuntu doesn't work with that new piece of sh*t "filesystem" that "comes" with Vista01:25
SuperPerroFlashiok, I KNOW my ISP uses dhcp01:26
MinatakuBut then Vista barely works with it either01:26
SuperPerroFlashihaha, Minataku01:26
MinatakuSo it all balances out01:26
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arash_"sudo: nvidia-settings: command not found"01:31
arash_What is that supposed to mean??01:31
SuperPerroFlashithere is no nvidia... bin?01:31
MinatakuSeems pretty obvious to me01:31
arash_minataku - Ok, what does the guide mean? it says I should run that command01:31
Minatakuarash_: Do you have an nvidia card?01:31
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arash_I don't know, I think so01:31
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arash_8800 I think01:31
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Minataku"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue" ( Quote from "Airplane" )01:31
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MinatakuI love that movie01:31
SuperPerroFlashiairplane as in The Airplane?01:31
MinatakuI should go watch it01:31
SuperPerroFlashimmhh... never have01:31
MinatakuSuperPerroFlashi: No, "Airplane", that's the name of the movie01:31
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SuperPerroFlashiyes, but the Sniffing glue... sounded a bit like the Jefferson... never mind01:31
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wsjuniordoes anybody know which package is need to have manpages of c/c++ libraries like in freebsd?!01:43
coreymon77wsjunior: apt-cache search it01:44
coreymon77\see what comes up01:44
wsjuniorcoreymon77: i tried it before asking dude01:44
wsjuniori've searching for this package for two days actually..01:45
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wsjuniorit's not manpages-dev neither glibc-doc01:46
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MattParryHi!  Does anyone know if there are any KDE intergration plans for the ubuntu mobile and embedded plans?01:49
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tailsfanhow do you rename a file in Terminal02:08
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tailsfanhow do you rename a file in Terminal02:10
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Tm_T!away | HomeRoey02:10
ubotuHomeRoey: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines02:10
evsophomore2009can someone tell me how to Uninstall FrostwirE?02:11
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hikaricoretailsfan: mv filename othername02:11
Tm_THomeRoey: just turn that public away off thank you02:11
HomeRoeyhow do you do that?02:11
zengrong 02:11
Tm_THomeRoey: hmm, Konversation?02:11
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HomeRoeyone of the last pieces of gtk-encumbered code I still use02:11
Tm_Tno idea, just browse settings02:11
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HomeRoey(gaim, x-chat and gimp)02:12
bipolarKopete, Konversation, Krita :)02:12
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giovani2HomeRoey: ahem ... pidgin hahaha02:17
giovani2thou hast saideth the name that shall not be spoken!02:18
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thugnastyhey, I have a quesion about mp3 playback02:20
thugnastyI'm a complete newb02:20
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thugnastyI'm running 6.06, and I am able to view dvds02:22
thugnastyyet, I am unable to use eithser kaffeine or amaroK to listen to mp302:22
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stdinthugnasty: have you installed the codec package?02:24
evsophomore2009can someone help me install a Deb. file???02:24
stdin!deb | evsophomore200902:24
ubotuevsophomore2009: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)02:24
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thugnastyI am not certain02:25
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thugnastyI've gotten some things off of the adept program02:25
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stdinthugnasty: it's called "libxine-extracodecs", check that's installed02:25
thugnastyyeah, there is a problem with that...I think02:25
thugnastywhen I request an install02:26
evsophomore2009it still wont install!02:26
thugnastyit says (BREAK) install in read02:26
thugnastyshould I still install it?02:26
stdinthugnasty: try running the command "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" in konsole and post the error to pastebin02:27
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:27
evsophomore2009stdin: it still wont install02:27
stdinevsophomore2009: what's the error?02:27
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evsophomore2009Errors were encounterd while processing /home/mike/dektop/aim_1.5.286-1_i386.deb02:28
baghyaycomment    faire lancer le programe qu'il cherche des mis  jours pour kubuntu  car il a ps lancer en dmarage02:29
stdinevsophomore2009: there's more than that, post the whole of the output to pastebin02:29
evsophomore2009well it wont let me copy & Paste it, so ill take a Screen Shot02:30
thugnastyI apologize for my stupidity02:30
evsophomore2009hold on02:30
stdinthugnasty: is that the whole of the outout?02:30
stdin!fr | baghyay02:31
ubotubaghyay: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:31
thugnastyno, sorry02:31
thugnastyhold on just one moment, I'll put the whole part in02:31
baghyayoh   sorry i forget that02:31
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stdinthugnasty: it looks like a sources problem, post the file /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin please02:33
thugnastyjust put that into konsole?02:33
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stdinthugnasty: you can open it in kate and copy and paste it in to pastebin02:33
stdinevsophomore2009: how did you get the file, and where is it from?02:34
evsophomore2009im trying to get Aol Instant Messanger02:34
evsophomore2009im really sick of Kopete02:34
savetheWorldtry pigdin02:35
savetheWorldtry pidgin02:35
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evsophomore2009savetheworld: i just want AIM, im famillar with it02:35
evsophomore2009and i like it02:35
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thugnastywas that the right thing?02:38
stdinthugnasty: you're missing the main "dapper main restricted" source02:38
thugnastystdin: alright, how do I go about fixing this?02:38
stdinevsophomore2009: it's a bad file, complain to the aol people. In the meantime download the tzg file and follow the instructions02:39
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evsophomore2009tzg file?02:39
stdinthugnasty: open the file as root (press Alt-F2 and type in: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list)02:40
stdinevsophomore2009: from this page http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp#install02:40
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evsophomore2009ahh i see02:40
stdinevsophomore2009: the option under the deb files02:40
waltercoolSomeone know why i can empty my trash can?02:40
avalonIs there a way to setup beryl with Kubuntu?02:40
evsophomore2009stdin: okay now how do i install it?>02:40
avalonI'm running the nvidia kernel02:40
stdinthugnasty: paste in this line "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted"02:41
Tm_T!beryl > avalon02:41
evsophomore2009stdin: how do i install it?02:42
stdinevsophomore2009: download it, to your desktop02:42
stdinevsophomore2009: then run this command (in konsole) "cd / ; sudo tar xzf ~/Desktop/aim-1.5.234-1.i386.tgz"02:43
stdincopy and paste it02:43
stdinthugnasty: then when you've done that, save it and run "sudo apt-get update" then you should be able to install the codec02:44
evsophomore2009cd / ; sudo tar xzf ~/Desktop/aim-1.5.234-1.i386.t02:44
evsophomore2009mike@mike-desktop:~$ cd / ; sudo tar xzf ~/Desktop/aim-1.5.234-1.i386.t02:44
evsophomore2009tar: /home/mike/Desktop/aim-1.5.234-1.i386.t: Cannot open: No such file or directory02:44
evsophomore2009tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now02:44
evsophomore2009tar: Child returned status 202:44
evsophomore2009tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors02:44
evsophomore2009OOPS sorry people02:44
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stdinevsophomore2009: you missed the full command, the filename has a ".tgz" at the end02:45
stdinevsophomore2009: "cd / ; sudo tar xzf ~/Desktop/aim-1.5.234-1.i386.tgz"02:45
Fablei need help with beryl. it doesnt open when i check in the tackbar. help please02:45
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stdinhi kadaz, Welcome to #kubuntu02:45
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stdinand he's gone :p02:45
evsophomore2009Cannot open: No such file or directory02:46
evsophomore2009tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now02:46
evsophomore2009tar: Child returned status 202:46
evsophomore2009tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors02:46
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Fablei didnt mean to ask the question asap :(02:46
stdinevsophomore2009: is the file on your desktop?02:46
kadazKubunto is great !!!02:46
stdin^ yes it is :)02:47
evsophomore2009the tgz..yes02:47
evsophomore2009well the picture looks like a package02:47
stdinevsophomore2009: ok, try "sudo tar xzf ~/aim<TAB>" (where <TAB> is the actual tab key)02:47
waltercoolhow can i empty my trash can?02:48
waltercooli cant02:48
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kadazheh, life the lid and lift02:48
stdin"sudo tar xzf ~/Desktop/aim<TAB>" (where <TAB> is the actual tab key), evsophomore200902:48
stdinwaltercool: any error given?02:48
waltercoolonly... i cant empty...02:48
waltercoolis blocked the option02:48
evsophomore2009Stdin: It didnt work02:49
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stdinwaltercool: that normally means that it's already empty02:49
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waltercoolyes, but i have 2 files in02:49
waltercooland i cant empty02:49
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pablo_como estan02:50
Fableis anyone familiar with adesklets02:50
stdinevsophomore2009: ok, try this: "cd ~/Desktop ; ls aim*" and show me what it says02:50
evsophomore2009ls: aim: No such file or directory02:50
Fablebecause i need help installing them02:50
kadazcan I ask a quick question?02:50
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stdinevsophomore2009: hmm, you're sure the file "aim-1.5.234-1.i386.tgz" is on your desktop?02:51
stdinkadaz: ask away02:51
evsophomore2009do i have to exract it?02:51
kadazdoes kubunto do a back up of xorg.conf the orginal one install on setup.02:51
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stdinevsophomore2009: you extract it when you install it, so you just need to location of the archive02:52
kadazand if it does, where it is?02:52
evsophomore2009this is annoying02:53
stdinkadaz: it may do, look in the /etc/X11 directory and see if there are any files named "xorg.conf" but with something after it, eg "xorg.conf.backup"02:53
kadazI checked. nothing, I see xorg.conf1 , 2 , 3, 402:53
kadazno backup.02:53
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thugnasty_stdin: I still have the same problem with the audio playback02:54
stdinkadaz: the 1, 2, 3 etc.. are the backups02:54
kadazwhich would be the last backup?02:54
baghyaywhen i  ve02:55
baghyaygpg: WARNING: nothing exported02:55
baghyaygpg: no valid OpenPGP data found02:55
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kadazdont wanna put one in and not see a screen :D02:55
stdinevsophomore2009: maybe the instructions are wrong, see what " find ~ -type f -name "aim*" " shows02:55
stdinthugnasty_: did you restart amarok/kaffeine?02:55
evsophomore2009/home/mike/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/aim_1.5.286-1_i386.deb[9] .desktop02:56
evsophomore2009/home/mike/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/aim-1.5.286.tgz[2] .desktop02:56
evsophomore2009/home/mike/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/aim_1.5.286-1_i386.deb[10] .desktop02:56
stdinok, ok02:56
evsophomore2009AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Shiot!!!! sorry everyone!!!!02:56
kadaz!pastbine evsophomore200902:56
thugnasty_stdin: it says it is playing the songs, but I don't hear anything02:56
evsophomore2009i already know Kadaz02:56
kadazk :P02:57
thugnasty_stdin: it also plays the songs very quickly02:57
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stdinthugnasty_: sounds silly, but check volume in the app and in kmix02:57
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thugnasty_stdin: they are turned on02:58
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stdinevsophomore2009: ok, do this then: cd / ; sudo tar xzf /home/mike/Desktop/aim-1.5.286.tgz02:58
thugnasty_stdin: I honestly have no idea what is happening02:58
kadazwhich would be the last backup of xorg.conf02:58
stdinkadaz: look at the dates on the file, tho it's probably the one with the largest number02:59
evsophomore2009stdin: when i paste that in there and click enter, it just opens a new line02:59
kadazjust doing that now :D02:59
stdinevsophomore2009: good, now try running the command "aim"02:59
evsophomore2009aim: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:00
stdinthugnasty_: try installing "mpg321" and playing the mp3 in that, if that doesn't work, then it could be the file03:01
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stdinevsophomore2009: does it open tho?03:01
stdinhmm, you need gtk then03:01
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stdininstall the package "libgtk1.2"03:02
ubotuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI03:02
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evsophomore2009where can i find this package to install it?03:02
stdinevsophomore2009: in adept, or on the command line just run "sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2"03:03
thugnasty_stdin: when I search "mpg321" in adept manager, both files say "BREAK"03:03
evsophomore2009okay done03:03
evsophomore2009now what?03:03
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stdinevsophomore2009: try running "aim" again03:03
evsophomore2009aim: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:04
stdinthugnasty_: ok, I have a way to fix your sources.list file, open it up again and I'll give you a good one03:04
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Tm_Tevsophomore2009: what you're trying to compile?03:04
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Tm_Tevsophomore2009: or you try to run something?03:04
evsophomore2009im trying to run AIM03:04
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stdinTm_T: he's trying to install AIM (from a tgz file)03:05
semistud2354does anyone know how to transfer files from on feisty computer to another...03:05
thugnasty_stdin: ok, sources.list is open03:06
semistud2354its driving me nuts....i already downloaded the nfs03:06
semistud2354and enabled filesharing on one03:06
Tm_Tevsophomore2009: install kio-apt03:06
Tm_Tevsophomore2009: or, actually, you can use directly packages.ubuntu.com03:07
evsophomore2009kio-apt is already the newest version.03:07
evsophomore20090 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 159 not upgraded.03:07
stdinthugnasty_: you on an standard x86 ?03:07
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Tm_Tevsophomore2009: ok, open konqueror and type apt:/03:07
semistud2354anyone have any ideas03:07
thugnasty_stdin: I believe so03:07
Tm_Tevsophomore2009: and for every missing file try searching03:07
Tm_Tevsophomore2009: in there os packages.ubuntu.com03:08
Tm_Tevsophomore2009: if there is packages providing those files you're missing03:08
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evsophomore2009so what do i type in under packages.ubuntu03:08
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Tm_Tevsophomore2009: the missing file and select that you are searching file03:08
stdinthugnasty_: delete everything in there and paste this one in: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25360/03:09
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Tm_Tevsophomore2009: in this case: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.203:09
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evsophomore2009it says it cant find it03:10
evsophomore2009but if its alot of trouble to install AIM than nevermind03:10
Tm_Tevsophomore2009: heh03:10
Tm_Tevsophomore2009: Kopete <303:10
stdinthere are other apps too03:10
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.03:10
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evsophomore2009whats the other IM file called?03:12
evsophomore2009somthing with a P03:12
thugnasty_stdin: it says that it can't be saved03:12
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stdinthugnasty_: did you open it with kdesu ?03:12
Tm_Tevsophomore2009: Pidgin, it's formerly Gaim03:13
Tm_Tevsophomore2009: try Gaim and Kopete, use whichever you like more03:13
thugnasty_stdin: ok, it saved this time...now should I try to get that codec?03:14
Tm_Tevsophomore2009: but use day or two, I hated Kopete for years just because it was different =)03:14
thugnasty_stdin: the original one?03:14
stdinthugnasty_: first run "sudo apt-get update" to refetch the package list03:14
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stdinnow make sure that libxine-extracodecs is installed again03:17
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thugnasty_stdin: it downloaded successfully this time, what should I do next?03:19
stdinrestart amarok and try playing the file again03:20
evsophomore2009yeah i really like Gaim!!!03:20
evsophomore2009alot better than Kopete03:20
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thugnasty_stdin: something still is wrong03:22
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stdinis there any sound?03:22
thugnasty_stdin: there is no sound03:23
waltercoolhow can i enter to default kde system control?03:23
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stdinwaltercool: kcontrol?03:23
waltercoolor... system configurator03:23
stdinthugnasty_: try mpg321, see if that installs03:24
waltercoolbut original panel..., kubuntu panel dont have some things03:24
stdinwaltercool: yeah, it's kcontrol, just run that command03:24
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waltercoolstdin: oh... thanks u :)03:25
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jdmmadehey there users03:26
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jdmmadeI was curious if anyone could teach me how to write to my repository03:26
thugnasty_stdin: I apologize, but where can I find the file after I have downloaded it?03:26
stdinthugnasty_: what file?03:27
jdmmadeI want to get skype in there03:27
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto03:27
thugnasty_stdin: mpg32103:27
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stdinthugnasty_: it's a command line app, just run "mpg321 /path/to/file.mp3"03:28
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jdmmadeis there anyway to do it through konsole?03:29
thugnasty_stdin: hrm, it's not running03:30
jdmmadeI need to learn how to add the information to repository manually through konsole03:30
faidillingerhowto suscribe to a mailinglist with kontact03:31
stdinjdmmade: you can edit the file with nano, ie "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list", tho the easiest waw would be to just run "echo "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list "03:31
stdinthugnasty_: strange, maybe it's a bad file03:31
stdinthugnasty_: or it has DRM03:31
thugnasty_stdin: ok, there has been some progress...I have restarted amarok and now it is playing the songs at a normal speed, only without sound03:33
stdinthugnasty_: do you get any sounds, ever?03:33
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thugnasty_stdin: yes03:34
thugnasty_stdin: Nevermind, it works now03:34
stdinheh :p03:34
thugnasty_stdin: I have absolutely no clue how03:34
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stdinme either, but at least it works now03:34
jdmmadewhen I type deb it says command not found03:35
stdinjdmmade: that's all one command03:35
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stdinjdmmade: "echo deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list"03:36
lunar-ravenmy friend is having trouble booting into his windows partition.  His windows partition is on /dev/hdb1  ... what would that be in grub? hd1,0?03:36
lunar-ravenanyone know?03:36
stdinlunar-raven: depends what's in /boot/grub/device.map03:37
jdmmadeall it did was bring up the dabian file03:37
lunar-ravenhmm, how would i help him find out?03:37
jdmmadecan I get a hint on how to install it03:38
stdinjdmmade: you add the repository and do "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install skype"03:39
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:40
lunar-ravenstdin: his windows is hd103:43
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stdinthen it's (hd1,0) for the 1st partition03:44
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jdmmadeit worked03:45
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jdmmadehey does annyone know how to set ubuntu to work with my mic03:46
jdmmadelinux is harder then I thought03:47
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stdinmake sure it's set to be recorded from, in kmix03:48
jdmmadeI thank you for your help man03:49
jdmmadeyouve been pretty helpful dude03:49
stdinit's why I'm here :)03:49
lunar-raven[18:44]  <stdin> then it's (hd1,0) for the 1st partition03:49
lunar-ravenfor some reason that didnt work, said invalid partition03:49
lunar-ravensame with hd1,103:49
lunar-ravencould this be because its windows vista?03:49
hitmanWillylunar-raven, are you sure its the second drive?03:49
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stdinhmm, maybe.03:50
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hitmanWillylunar-raven, oh, vista, nm :)03:51
stdinI also remember somthing about windows not liking not being on the 1st disk03:51
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hitmanWillylunar-raven, there's some specific options grub needs passed to it for win booting, don't remember exactly what atm03:53
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stdinlunar-raven: try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25365/03:53
lunar-ravenill try that03:54
ejmdoh! broadcom cards suck with any kernel above
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jarnIs there a way to make it so that when I start a new X server NumLock is enabled?03:55
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ErtainHello everyone.  I converted a Qemu raw image (using qemu-img) to a VirtualBox image.  The image is a Windows XP 8 Gig image.  Whenever I try to start it up in VIrtualBox, though, it doesn't work (it goes to a BSOD).  Any ideas on this?03:56
stdinErtain: better to ask that in #vbox03:56
jdmmadehey i am in kmix I am trying hard to get the settings to work03:56
jdmmadestdin you think you can help me03:57
eljefejarn: in KDE there is a start-up numb-lock On/Off... try that yet?03:57
jdmmadeIll explain what I did03:57
jdmmadeon output I got my mic part green and turned up03:58
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jdmmadeinput is off03:58
eljefeErtain: probably sees VBox as different 'hardware'.... Windows is very specific to what it runs on (it cannot be changed)03:58
jarneljefe: Not talking about KDE, but X. Not KDE-specific.03:58
eljefejarn: notr sure then, maybe something in xorg.conf03:59
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jarneljefe: Okay, thanks.03:59
stdinjdmmade: make sure that the "Input Source" in the "Switches" tab is set to the right source03:59
eljefei didn't help! ;)03:59
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jdmmadeon switches I have headphone jack mode on headphone out, line jack mode is line in, mic jack mode is line in03:59
jdmmadeinput source is cd, and the other is mixer03:59
kadazthank you stdin, that worked.03:59
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eljefejdmmade: the mic is plugged in correctly, right?04:00
eljefejust gotta be sure04:00
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lunar-ravenno go.  he got the error  error in partition 0x704:05
lunar-ravenerror 1504:05
stdintry "rootnoverify" instead of "root"04:06
stdinie: "rootnoverify (hd1,0)04:06
hitmanWillyIIRC windows also needs the chainloader option04:08
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stdinyep "chainloader +1"04:09
hitmanWillyheh, been a while since my dual-boot days...04:10
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stdinI dual boot, but not with windows04:10
hitmanWillyBSD or another distro?04:11
hitmanWillyor mac?04:11
stdinjust kubuntu and debian04:11
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hitmanWillyah, k04:11
stdinsoon to be kubuntu feisty, debain and kubuntu gutsy04:12
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stdinjust haven't gotten around to downloading the iso yet04:12
jdmmadehaving trouble with my mic crap04:13
michael__how do i tell what executable a konsole command is calling04:14
michael__like i want to find whats being executed when i type nes04:14
stdinwhat? the location of the file?04:14
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Dragnslcrwhich nes04:15
DragnslcrWill tell you the path04:15
stdinor "command -V nes" too04:15
stdin(in bash)04:15
lunar-ravenstdin: how is debian? I use kubuntu..so thats debian based, but ive never tried just plain debian04:16
Dragnslcrlunar-raven- it'll be pretty much the same, just with older versions of everything04:16
michael__that isnt what i need04:16
stdinlunar-raven: it's mostly the same, but some things work better in debian, and some don't :p, but debian isn't as uptodate04:16
lunar-ravenI like my software bleeding edge and dangerous04:16
michael__where is the program stored?04:16
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michael__it just shows me to /usr/bin/nes04:17
michael__and i know whats not where its at04:17
Dragnslcrmichael__- uh, yes it is04:17
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DragnslcrThat sounds like a perfectly reasonable path to the executable04:17
michael__no thats where all the command line executables are at04:17
jdmmadecan anyone help me and tell me how to setup kmix's output and input to work with skype please04:17
michael__but i need the actual dir for the program04:17
stdinmichael__: yeah, the executible is in /usr/bin04:18
Dragnslcrmichael__- if /usr/bin/nes is a symlink, you can use ls -al /usr/bin | grep nes04:18
DragnslcrThat would show you where the symlink points to04:18
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stdinor just "ls -l /usr/bin/nes"04:18
DragnslcrBut it may not be a symlink04:18
Jucatomichael__: there is (usually...) no single "actual dir" for a program in Linux04:19
DragnslcrHeh, I have the bad habit of using | grep for everything04:19
stdinI'm like that, but with awk :p04:19
michael__yeh it was a symmlink04:19
Jucatoisn't awk a bit... awkward? :)04:20
stdinyeah, but it's what I know04:20
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lem_awk is awksome!04:20
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Jucatohush! let people sleep04:27
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n8k99whoa! now that's has nothing to do with awk04:28
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stdinecho coffee|awk '{print "/me gves n8k99 some "$1}' :)04:29
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waltercoolkde3.5.7 isn't in adept?04:33
n8k99you must add a repo for that04:34
DragnslcrDon't think so04:34
DragnslcrWell, not in the standard repository04:34
n8k99its listed on kubuntu.org04:34
DragnslcrOr follow the link in the topic04:35
Jucatowaltercool: only for Feisty (like I said earlier)04:35
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waltercoolbut i have Feisty xD04:36
waltercooland i have 3.5.6 xD04:36
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kjdisI am trying to figure out how/where to launch a program every time either X or the window manager starts, not sure where the right place is actually, anyone know how I can do this?  I thought a quick hack would be to edit the end of S99kdm but that didn't work right, caused the system to hang04:37
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kjdisrc.local, linked as S99, also didn't work04:38
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hakaisoukjdis, are you running 7.04?04:39
kjdisI used to use nvidia proprietary, but this time I wanted to use nvtv04:39
hakaisouin the K Menu, you should see an icon named "Save Session"04:39
hakaisouum... crud04:40
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kjdisyeah I need it pre-login :)04:40
hakaisouout of my league04:40
kjdisif that's where you were going04:40
kjdissomehow I need to launch it right after X/kdm fully loads04:40
kjdisotherwise it hangs system04:40
hakaisouyou said program, so i figured you ment like Pidgin or something04:40
kjdisyeah many ppl think that, it's common to think of using the "on login" methods, there are a few04:41
hakaisoui don't know how you could do that04:41
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kjdisppl on the net in posts have stated using those startup scripts, but they hang for me04:41
kjdisa really dirty hack would be a timed script, have it wait like 5 mins or something and then launch, when everything is def'n loaded04:42
kjdisOR, maybe in rc.local it's running with the wrong priviledges?04:42
n8k99kjdis: just for clarity' s sake, what excatly are you trying to do?04:43
kjdisbut I doubt wrong priviledges would hang the system, I think it's more likely that nvtv tries to do things to the video card before the nv driver is loaded, and that prob causes the hang04:43
kjdisI want nvtv to run pre-login to have tv-out04:43
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kjdisI setup a box for my friend, he only has an older TV in his living room, it crashed so I am reinstalling, in the past I used nvidia proprietary for tv-out but now I wanna use nvtv04:44
kjdishe watches movies and stuff, and occasional very basic (and hard to read) web browsing :)04:44
n8k99why does this have to start before you login to a KDE session?04:45
kjdisBecause he can't login without seeing the screen04:45
kjdisthere'll be no monitor at all04:45
n8k99oh i see, instead of having a monitor your friend is using a tv04:46
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kjdisI really wanna make this work rather than give in and do nvidia binary, nvtv is better, because I can turn the tv on/off at will, and not have to modify X conf at all04:46
n8k99can you just control the machine remotely, in order to boot/login?04:47
kjdisso for example, I could take his system away from the TV to troubleshoot, and jsyut connect to a monitor04:47
kjdishe won't know how to do anything even slightly advances04:47
kjdisI guess I COULD ask him to just type his password before he sees the screen04:47
kjdisbut that could get annoying, because I've noticed that for some reason the first keystroke is ignored04:48
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DragnslcrIf you find anything out, let me know. I'd like to have my bluetooth keyboard working before I login04:48
kjdiswell nvtv can be launched remotely, from any shell, and it fires out to TV04:48
kjdisso, I could use the dirty timer hack I guess04:48
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QarlIs it possible to make KMail _only_ check my IMAP inbox on interval? (and _not_ all of my folders)04:49
n8k99you may need to do just that kjdis04:49
kjdisjust for the hell of it I'll try that now, I could write a timer/sleep script, but can cron run a job n amount of time after every boot?04:49
n8k99i think its the other cron, acron or something like that that is dependent upon system uptime04:50
n8k99anacron maybe04:50
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kjdisanacron doesn't quite fit the bill04:52
kjdisAnacron  can  be  used  to  execute  commands  periodically, with a frequency specified in days.  Unlike04:52
kjdis       cron(8), it does not assume that the machine is running continuously.  Hence, it can be used on machines04:52
kjdis       that  arent  running  24  hours a day04:52
n8k99Qarl: try to edit the IMAP folder properties, it should give tyou that option04:52
n8k99kjdis: i knew it was one way or the other, just wasn't positive04:53
n8k99Qarl: right-button click on the folder04:53
Qarln8k99: Thanks.  Do you mean 'Act on new/unread mail in this folder?'  Because, right now they are all disabled except for my inbox, but it still checks everything04:54
kjdisif nvtv doesn't mind being run over and over, I can just use a stupid anacron hack and let it re-execute regardless04:54
n8k99Qarl: i thought that there was a right button menu for the IMAP folder that lets you change the properties04:55
n8k99you may have to edit the account itself to change teh frequency04:55
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kjdis"at" might work04:56
Qarln8k99: Yeah, I did right click on folder -> properties -> general -> act on...04:57
n8k99Qarl: then you'll have to Configure Kmail > Accounts > set update frequency04:58
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n8k99kjdis: how often does your friend turn on his computer?04:58
vishamhi folks04:59
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Qarln8k99: Yeah, it's set at 10 minutes right now.  It's doing the interval checking fine, but it checks all my folders, which takes a long time.04:59
vishamhas anyone found problems with the OS scanning feature in nmap 4.2?04:59
QarlMaybe it's because I'm using disconnected IMAP...04:59
n8k99Qarl: are all of your folders in IMAP?04:59
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Qarln8k99: Most of them04:59
n8k99all off the same Account?04:59
n8k99then you can only chagne the freqency of the account in kmail05:00
visham"nmap -T4 -sS -O scanme.nmap.org" this command causes my internet connection to break down after nmap has finished to around 70%05:00
vishamwhat is the problem05:00
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FrYGuY101Anybody good with wireless willing to help figure out why my Intel Pro/WIRELESS 2200bg doesn't want to seem to want to work?05:02
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:03
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vishamany nmap folks05:15
vishamsolve my problem pls05:15
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kjdisHere's another question, how can I run a  program every time someone (or a specific user would do) logs OUT?05:18
ubuntuI would like to restore my windows xp but ever since i installed ubuntu i cant can someone help me05:18
stdinkjdis: put the command(s) in ~/.bash_logout05:18
Dr_willisubuntu,  restore in what way? ya got a GRUB entry for it in the boot menu?05:19
ubuntuevery time i get to the end of the system restore it goes to create a user partion but it fails to do so05:19
kjdis.bash_logout?  that applies to someone logging out of kdm?05:19
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kjdisGDM has a PostSession thing I guess?05:20
Dr_willissystemrestore? what is this under?05:20
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cotyrotheryDr_willis: what do you mean05:20
cotyrotheryi want to reinstall windows xp05:20
stdinkjdis: well, when they logout (of kde) it is run, BUT it will also run when they close a terminal too05:20
Dr_williscotyrothery,  you want to totally REMOVE linux?05:21
rodrigocan I install windows programs in kubuntu?05:21
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:21
kjdisI wonder if I can handle startup in startkde?05:21
cpk1rodrigo: some, with wine05:21
rodrigoyep I try it05:21
kjdisI guess startkde might get modified at some point, while rc.local is all mine05:21
cotyrotheryDr_willis: yeah so that i can install windows then install ubuntu again and have dual boot05:21
rodrigobut I don't know how to run the programs05:21
Dr_williscotyrothery,  use the live cd, delete the existing linux partitions.05:21
rodrigoI install a demo of photoshop05:21
cotyrotheryDr_willis: i have05:21
rodrigobut I don't know where to find05:21
vishamhelp regarding via-diag05:22
rodrigothe exe05:22
Dr_williscotyrothery,  then install windows, resize its partitions if it sets them up wrong. install linux.05:22
cotyrotheryDr_willis: i even formated it to ftfs05:22
cotyrotheryDr_willis: its not that easy05:22
Dr_willisrodrigo,   when you 'wine setup.exe' it normally installs stuff to the .wine/SOMTHING/dir05:22
rodrigoik let me see05:22
cotyrotheryDr_willis: i dont understand but i have done every type of formating but it cant create user partion05:22
rodrigowhere I find that folder?05:22
semistud2354does anyone know how to transfer files from one feisty computer to another...05:22
Dr_williscotyrothery,    i perfer to have linux on its own HD. makes it much easier. :)05:22
hitmanWillyrodrigo, i don't think photoshop works in wine atm...you may want to try Gimp05:22
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Dr_willisrodrigo,  in the users homedir.05:23
semistud2354its driving me nuts....i already downloaded the nfs05:23
stdinkjdis: what you could do, to handle the .bash_logout right, is to just check for $DISPLAY and do nothing if it's set05:23
rodrigothanks Dr_willis05:23
evsophomore2009Okay guys, i had everything perfect, and boom my computer crashed05:23
evsophomore2009I need help installing Firefox, and Flash05:23
cotyrotheryDr_willis: so how am i going to fix this problem05:23
Dr_willissemistud2354,  could use ssh,05:23
cotyrotherybecuase i need windows05:23
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cotyrotheryI wont to play wow05:23
semistud2354from adept05:23
cpk1rodrigo: go to winehq.org and look at the app database for the program you are trying to use, it should say what you need to do05:23
stdinsemistud2354: there's ssh, ftp, http, samba, nfs ........05:23
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Dr_williscotyrothery, you are using some sort of 'system recovery' cd to restore windows? or a Actual XP install cd?05:24
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semistud2354so...the package is called ssh05:24
semistud2354is that a plugin or a program on its own05:24
stdinsemistud2354: yeah, install the package "ssh"05:24
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/05:24
Dr_willisscp is handy. :)05:24
kjdisstdin: maybe I'll do the $DISPLAY thing, but then again, I just want this to work, and unless I am there, my friend will never use the shell05:24
Theresahey folks. Quick question: If i'm not messing with sourcecode, do i need the Sources repositores?05:24
stdinDr_willis: so is fish:/05:24
cotyrotheryDr_willis: a restore cd05:24
semistud2354ok lemme get i05:24
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stdinTheresa: no, not really05:24
Dr_williscotyrothery,  delete all the partitions on the hd. so its 100% unalocated perhaps. and try again.05:25
cotyrotherybut i've done that05:25
Bearcatstdin: thanks05:25
knappHow can I force my cdrom to eject, even if it is in use?05:25
cpk1cotyrothery: btw last i checked wow worked with wine05:25
kjdisI am already gonna use one dirty hack to launch nvtv, might as well use anothwer to keep it working, see when the guy logs out the TV goes screwy, not sure why but logging out messes up nvtv and it needs to run again for the login screen to be visible again05:25
stdinkjdis: just put the command inside a simple if statement05:25
Dr_williscotyrothery,  sounds like a stupid restore cd. Not a Linux issue. cant really help ya much more then that. what brand pc is this?05:25
fryguy_Hrm. Okay. So, my wireless card is working. My wireless card can see the Access point. I have WPA supplicant installed. WPA supplicant supports my card. But I can't connect with it, still...05:26
cotyrotheryDr_willis: HP05:26
stdinkjdis: like, if [ -z $DISPLAY ] ;then run this command...;fi05:26
cotyrotherycpk1: yea but it is way to much for me to set up05:26
semistud2354ok i got ssh05:26
kjdisideally I'd like it to work for every user though, in case he creates an account for his girlfriend or something stupid like that heh05:26
semistud2354now what05:26
Dr_williscotyrothery,  may want to check the HP site/forums/support on the proper way to restore a system with those cd's05:26
kjdisstdin: I may use your idea, thanks05:26
n8k99kjdis: you have it working?05:26
semistud2354i went clicked on remote05:26
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semistud2354and samba05:27
semistud2354and nothing05:27
stdinsemistud2354: it's ssh, not samba05:27
Dr_willissamba is not the same as ssh :)05:27
cotyrotheryfor some reason when i do use wine with wow its really slow05:27
semistud2354so what do i do no05:27
stdinsemistud2354: just go to "fish:/(IP address of remote host)"05:27
BearcatDr_willis: thank goodness for that!05:27
stdinsemistud2354: the remote host is the computer with ssh installed05:28
Dr_williscotyrothery,  theres proberly a dozen+ tweaks ya can do to help it out. But I dont mess with WoW any more.05:28
kjdisn8k99: I haven't tested the "at" upon boot solution yet05:28
n8k99good luck05:28
semistud2354so if i want to use this computer to connect to another computer05:29
semistud2354i put ssh on this or the other computer05:29
Dr_willissemistud2354,   install ssh on both systems05:29
semistud2354one sec05:29
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cpk1cotyrothery: have you tried using opengl with wow in wine?05:29
stdinsemistud2354: you put ssh on the computer you want to connect to, the ssh packages is actually the SERVER, you already have the client installed05:29
cotyrotherycpk1 no why05:30
Dr_williscotyrothery,  because that will make it faster05:30
kjdishmm, I just discovered kde05:30
kjdiskde's Xstartup, Xreset, etc05:30
cotyrotheryDr_willis: so how do i get opengl05:31
cpk1cotyrothery: DX rendering is almost always terrible in linux, opengl should make a huge difference05:31
knappI'm installing an app through wine that has multiple CDs. When it asks for disk 2, how do I eject the disc and mount the next one so that the app can detect it?05:31
Dr_williscotyrothery,  i would say - go to the wine forums/sites/google for it. and find the info. I dont mess with WoW any more.05:31
Bearcatyanno, i have to say that so far if i was gonna run a binary distro, this one is the one i would choose.05:31
Dr_willisknapp,  often ive had to copy the data from all the cd's to a single "installdir" and run wine setup.exe from that dir.05:32
semistud2354then i do the fish05:32
cpk1cotyrothery: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft scroll down to configuration05:32
knappman, I knew I should have done that from the get go.05:32
semistud2354with ssh installed on the other computer05:32
Dr_willisknapp,  also ive had some games not install right when you cd to the cd, then run wine.exe since wine has the cd locked  .. do wine /path/to/cd/setup.exe instead05:32
cotyrotheryguess im stuck with linux only05:32
knappok, thanks willis05:32
cpk1also you can try wine eject if you need to eject the cd05:32
cotyrotherynot that that is bad05:33
stdinsemistud2354: yeah, like "fish://user@"05:33
semistud2354i do that with konqueror???05:33
stdinsemistud2354: yeah, unless you want to use the commandline that is05:33
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semistud2354so now its askin me for a password...i dont know of any passwords that i put05:35
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Dr_willisit wants the user name/password on the other box. You dont even know your own login password?05:36
stdinit's your users password, you are actually logging in to the other computer05:36
semistud2354i put it in05:36
semistud2354i see what i did wrong05:37
semistud2354my bad05:37
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jdmmadeanyone here can help me with kmix and skype?05:37
semistud2354man i wish filesharing on linux was as easy as windows05:38
semistud2354i mean....share some files and go to network05:38
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stdinthere's samba for that, but it needs some configuring, and is less secure05:39
semistud2354this works good....but its the fact that i hate saying "linux cant do that"05:39
stdinwell "linux can do it"05:39
semistud2354to someone who uses microsoft05:39
semistud2354how do you do that05:39
jdmmadestdin are you still available to help me out dude?05:39
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kadazhow to diable wallet?05:39
kadazoh hi guys.05:40
Dr_willissemistud2354,  i can get samba set up under linux to windows in about.. say.. 2 min.. or less...05:40
cpk1semistud2354: there is a really easy applet to share stuff in kde05:40
Dr_willissemistud2354,  its rather trivial once ya learn what you need to do.05:40
stdinjdmmade: im not so good at sound/audio, took me ages to get my mic working once, and i'm not sure how i did it05:40
semistud2354i mean...i can connect to my windows computer..no problem05:40
Dr_willisisntall samba, edit the samba.conf - add the users smbpasswds, restart service.. :) done.05:40
semistud2354the problem comes when i want to connect linux to linux05:40
jdmmadehaha thanks anyway05:40
Dr_willissemistud2354,  set up same linux user/passwords and 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME password' the same on both box's05:41
Bearcathey folks. Is there anything in kubuntu that can read .pps files?05:41
Bearcatit's a power point slide show05:41
cpk1semistud2354: right click > properties... go to the sharing tab and start the applet... it can be that easy05:41
jdmmadehey what is the red light under capture stdin?05:41
Dr_willissemistud2354,  of course for linux to linux, ssh and scp is  perhaps easier.. You may want to check out 'smb4k' also - its a handy samba browser tool.05:41
stdinBearcat: ahh, OOo Presentation should05:42
semistud2354i did that05:42
Bearcatstdin: i kpresenter doesn't like it.05:42
semistud2354i shared my file05:42
semistud2354and it doesnt show up on samba05:42
stdinjdmmade: I think that means that it will record from it05:43
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semistud2354i clicked to the nfs and samba05:43
Dr_willisi normally just share the HOMES directories05:43
cpk1semistud2354: you shared it using the kde applet?05:43
Bearcatbut i'll update this thing overnight and see what happens next time i'm here05:43
cpk1the kde applet isnt a samba share...05:43
semistud2354right click>properties>sharing05:43
semistud2354thats what i did05:43
semistud2354that doesnt work??????05:44
Dr_willisheh - thers the user-friendly way.. then the old-skool way. ;)05:44
Dr_willisI do it old-skool05:44
cpk1yeah so point the browser on the other box to either the sharing ones hostname or ip05:44
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stdinBearcat: openoffice.org-impress should open most power point files05:44
cpk1Dr_willis: this is for quick and easy, I want to grab something from that box and I already need to be out the door =)05:44
stdinsemistud2354: you installed samba 1st?05:44
Dr_williscpk1,  heh scp :)05:44
Dr_willisusb-thumb-drive@! :)05:45
semistud2354i think samba comes preinstalled on feisty05:45
Bearcatstdin: thanks05:45
Dr_willissemistud2354,  i dont think it does.05:45
Bearcatlater all05:45
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Dr_willissudo apt-get install samba   - and see. :)05:45
stdinsemistud2354: the client, yes. but not the server05:45
semistud2354whats the package called05:46
cpk1you dont need samba though semistud2354 if you are using the method I just described05:46
Dr_willisrember kids - thers always 12+ ways to do ANYTHING in linux. :) thats what makes it so cool.05:46
semistud2354im just curous if its possible to make the connection between linux box and linux box similer to the way file transer is on windows to windows05:47
stdinyeah, samba05:47
stdinor nfs05:47
semistud2354i got nfs05:47
semistud2354and i have samba-client05:47
semistud2354i think05:47
cpk1I dunno how it is on windows so I couldnt say hehe05:47
Dr_willissemistud2354,  you can set up samba, or nfs todo that rather easially.  but theres the 'user' way. and the 'system admin' way :)05:47
G3NESISCan someone please help. I need to type in Japanese.05:47
Dr_willisor install ssh onboth box's and use the konqueror fish:/ stuff05:47
semistud2354whats the difference05:47
Dr_willisone way is to install the samba server, confgure it.  use it :) with smb:/ or some other samba browser05:48
cpk1G3NESIS: you need to get anthy and a scim I think...05:48
stdinnfs is a more advanced way than samba, it supports more "linux features"05:48
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.05:49
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:49
stdinit's a kio-slave05:49
Dr_willisi can neer rember the syntax for the fish:/ thing05:49
stdinit's fish://user@host/path05:49
G3NESISThanks CPKL.05:49
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Dr_willisaha 2 /'s05:49
G3NESISSCIM is what I needed.05:49
stdinor even fish://user:password@host/path05:50
semistud2354ok so how do i make connecting from linux to linux more similer to that of windows05:50
Dr_willissemistud2354,  install samba on both box's set up where HOMES are shared. is how i do it.05:50
semistud2354how do you set up where homes are shared05:50
Dr_willisthen install smb4k  (normally) thers other samba browser things ya can use like konqueror and smb:/05:51
Dr_willisthe samba.conf file has that info. ya uncomment a few lines05:51
Dr_willis!info samba-doc05:51
ubotusamba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 6754 kB, installed size 14512 kB05:51
stdinor just install swat05:51
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:51
jdmmadeIM DID IT STDIN!!!!!05:51
Dr_willissamba-doc has a lot of nice docs.05:51
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Dr_willisswat is a bit of .. annoyance in ways. :)05:51
jdmmadeI am finally learning linux!!05:51
cpk1ugh swat05:51
stdinjdmmade: now just don't change any settings, ever. and you'll be set :p05:52
kadazcan I ask a question05:52
Dr_williskde has a samba-config tool. I forget what packagte its in.05:52
stdin!ask | kadaz05:52
ubotukadaz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:52
jdmmadeLMAO thats so true!05:52
Dr_willis!find samba05:52
ubotuFound: dpsyco-samba, egroupware-sambaadmin, gsambad, xffm4-samba, python-samba (and 6 others)05:52
semistud2354whats the way thats closest to windows05:52
kadazalternate background  in lists, I see no option to select same as forground.05:53
stdinjdmmade: sound is one of those things that is just more difficult on linux05:53
Dr_willissemistud2354,  set up the home shares.. use smb4k works for me.05:53
semistud2354you guys said like 10 things05:53
Dr_willissemistud2354,  'closet to windows' is meaningless to most of us. :)05:53
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Dr_willismy 'samba shares' show up as a directory in my users home dir. (under smb4k) i can access them as if theyt were local dirs.05:53
Dr_willisOR ya can use konqueror's remote feature and the smb:/  address in konqueror.05:54
jdmmadeLMAO i used skype to call someone at denny's and ask if they do the grandslam special in the afternoons LMAO05:54
Dr_williswhich works fine for most people05:54
semistud2354well...is ther anyway were you can click on some network icon and it serches for computer05:54
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Dr_willissemistud2354,  smb:/ for the 3th time.. or smb4k05:54
jdmmadeanyone know the font for apple OS X05:55
semistud2354ok ima go with that05:55
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semistud2354do i need that on both boxes05:55
semistud2354or on this computer05:55
Dr_willisneed what?05:55
stdinsamba ^05:55
Dr_willissmb4k is a samba share browser. Nothing to do with a 'server' it browses/scans for servers05:56
Dr_willisyou will need samba setup on the servers for it to see them05:56
semistud2354cuz i shared a file on my other comp, and used samba....but nothing showed up05:56
stdinjust install samba and smb4k on both05:56
Dr_willissemistud2354,  that menu/share thing.. is Not using samba i belive.. its using some 'other' method.05:56
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semistud2354how do i share a file05:57
semistud2354on my comp05:57
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cpk1put it in whichever directory is being shared05:57
stdinshort answer is: there is no short answer05:57
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stdinthere are many different ways05:57
Dr_willisinstall ssh on  both box's - fire up konqueror. use the fish:/ thing we mentioned earlier is the Easiest way to get a few files back and forth.05:58
cpk1semistud2354: if you used the right click menu go to the computers ip:8001 port 8001 is default for the kde app05:58
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stdinplus, http is a bit bloated for file sharing IMO05:59
haiyahhi i'm trying to clone this harddisk to another harddisk, and making it bootable.. so i mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/clone , and editted /mnt/clone/etc/lilo.conf into from sda to sdb.. but after i run chroot /mnt/clone/ /sbin/lilo , it complains that its not the first harddisk05:59
semistud2354so lemme get this down,,, get ssh...then fish:/user@
haiyahand i'll get into kernerl panic.. the only way is to boot up the new set with cd, and do the chroot05:59
stdinsemistud2354: two slashes06:00
haiyahis there a way to make the other harddisk bootable with lilo06:00
stdinsemistud2354: fish://user@host06:00
semistud2354see im trying to start a linux revolution06:00
semistud2354well...atleas push for one06:00
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semistud2354and i want to be able to cover all....why "windows is better" comments06:01
semistud2354thats ppl ask me06:01
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Dr_willisask them to define 'better'06:01
semistud2354thats actually a good comment06:02
Dr_willisI take my Linux laptop to work.. and people get amazed at how i can make it dance and sing. :)06:02
semistud2354usually i get something along the lines of easier06:02
Dr_willisand thats not even on a network.06:02
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Dr_williseasier is not better.. if that was the case. we would all still be using DOS.06:03
stdinDr_willis: I did that the other day, and got 3 converts :)06:03
semistud2354i carry around my linux book like a bible06:03
semistud2354its my religion06:03
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Dr_williswindows 'users' are blinded to all the stuff that computers can do. :) they just think in windows-terms.06:04
avalosbuenas noches, como estan??06:04
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cpk1personally I think ubuntu is really easy06:04
semistud2354i like ubuntu06:04
cpk1i mean look at how you install stuff06:04
Dr_willisubuntu is very easy to get going.06:04
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stdinhehe, I had to explain that linux was free, and it wasn't a coppied/pirated cd I was using too :P06:04
semistud2354have you guys heard about the linux virus06:04
rodrigo_chat en espaol06:04
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Dr_willisstdin,  i was handing out OpenOffice cd's to these guys.. they thought it was warez :) lol06:05
stdin!es | rodrigo__06:05
uboturodrigo__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:05
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semistud2354have you guys heard about it06:05
stdinDr_willis: I had comments like "but I can't register it can I?" :p06:05
semistud2354i saw it on linux.org06:05
Dr_willissemistud2354,  thats technicially an 'openoffice' worm not a Linux virus.06:06
stdinahh, but it won't really hurt your system, and you have to actually open the "infected" document to get it06:06
Dr_willisA new worm is being distributed within malicious OpenOffice documents.06:07
semistud2354so....should i get rid of openoffice06:07
Dr_willisdo what you want..06:07
semistud2354i mean i dont want my shit messed with06:07
Dr_willisits not like you are gong to get it by writing your own docs.06:07
NickPrestasemistud2354, as is the rule with everything on the internet - don't download or execute anything you don't trust. You wouldn't download a random OOo document and open it, would it? If you don't do that, then you should be fine.06:08
stdinit's not like you're running IE, you probably won't ever see the worm, and if you do it will only effect your user06:08
Dr_willisthen dont open  openoffice docs you dont know where they come from.06:08
semistud2354man..i thought linux was like....ristant to problems like that06:09
stdinyeah, it is06:09
Dr_willissemistud2354,  its an Openoffice issue. Not a linux issue06:09
NickPrestaIt isn't a problem with linux, semistud2354, it's a problem with OOo06:09
stdinand the patch will be out soon, if not already06:09
Dr_willisits just another silly macro worm.06:10
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semistud2354lets just say if i am dumb enough to open an OOo file sent to me06:10
semistud2354what will it do06:10
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Dr_willisgo listen to that song by weird al - called 'virus alert' it will do all that...06:10
semistud2354i didnt really get what it did06:10
DaSkreechsemistud2354: Probably open06:10
DaSkreechDr_willis: Which album?06:10
Dr_willis"Straight out of linwood" :)06:11
stdinsemistud2354: or just do "find ~ -type f -name "badbunny.p*" -exec rm {} \; "06:11
stdinthat will remove it :p06:11
semistud2354do it just makes a file...06:12
semistud2354it just makes a file????06:12
NickPrestasemistud2354, read this for information: http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=announce&msgNo=28706:12
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Dr_willisgoogle/search/read/learn :006:12
stdinsemistud2354: yeah, read the bottom of the link you gave, it creates 2 files06:12
Dr_willisI perfer abiword. :)06:12
DaSkreechsemistud2354: you are worried about badbunny? thats so cute :06:13
stdinheh, I just use kate :)06:13
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Dr_willis'codename stinky cheese'06:13
semistud2354what the hell is the point of that06:13
Dr_willissemistud2354,  no idea.. dont know, dont care. :)06:14
Dr_willisinfect other ooo docs is my guess06:14
stdinto scare windows users and make them renew that anti-virus subscription06:14
semistud2354ha ha linux doesnt need virus software06:14
nixternalhey, I just noticed my connection link for eth0 is comes up as 10MB Auto Duplex, anyone know how to fix this?06:14
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semistud2354but yet....nod 32 still makes a linux verson of the program06:15
jdmmadereally stud?06:15
Dr_willisnod32 ? never heard of them06:15
jdmmadei thought only windows06:15
Dr_willisa macro worm - isent a virus/issue with the OS. its a issue with the program.06:15
stdinclamav is a linux AV program, it just scans for windows viruses, only useful for files servers serving windows clients06:16
jdmmadehey stud do you know a really good linux game that has online capabilities06:16
jdmmadeLIKE a GOOOD GAME06:16
Dr_willisrtcw:ET is great06:16
semistud2354works almost perfectly on wine06:16
stdincan't beat frozen-bubble :)06:16
Dr_willisUrbanTerror is also great.06:16
hitmanWillyabout the only use i see for linux AV software is if you're running a mailserver or the like off of a linux machine06:16
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2106:16
semistud2354whats better opengl...or direct x06:17
semistud2354what you guys thing06:17
Dr_willisuse opengl with wine06:17
semistud2354you think games...if they were made for open gl....would run better06:17
jdmmadewhere can I get return to rtcw?06:17
DaSkreechsemistud2354: depends06:17
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DaSkreechjdmmade: a store06:18
Dr_willisrtcw:et is free06:18
jdmmadeO i thought it was a free linux version or something06:18
jdmmadeO it is?!06:18
jdmmadecool where?06:18
hikaricorebut not the singleplayer game06:18
hikaricoreonly the muliplayer version06:18
semistud2354whats the thing unreal ppl made06:18
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rtcw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:19
DaSkreechUnreal tournament06:19
Dr_willistheres a ubuntu games wiki page.06:19
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org06:19
DaSkreech2007 is coming out next year :-(06:19
DaSkreechDr_willis: It's in Portugese06:19
semistud2354like the unreal engine can run on windows and linux06:19
DaSkreechsemistud2354: yes06:19
DaSkreechso can the doom engine06:19
DaSkreech so can the quake engine06:19
Dr_willisCUBE :006:19
DaSkreechand ogre06:19
DaSkreechand cube06:19
semistud2354but thats because they made there own version of directx06:20
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semistud2354i think i got my facts right06:20
Dr_willishmm.. they ported the game to OPENGL. not directx06:20
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DaSkreechsemistud2354: no they just use smarter technologies06:20
Dr_willisi think.06:20
hikaricoreYou can find info on Enemy Territory in the fps section of gwos as well: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/FPS_Games06:20
DaSkreechsemistud2354: directx is a set of tools one of which is Direct3D06:20
Dr_willisuse opengl, works on windows and linux..  :)  makes it better06:20
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DaSkreechOpenGL is the equivalent of direct3d but doesn't replavce the rest of directX06:21
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Dr_willishay Minataku06:21
DaSkreechhowever directX only works on Windows and only works for so long06:21
Dr_willisand DirectX is stinky!06:21
semistud2354like...whats the MAIN reason games dont come out on linux06:21
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Dr_willissemistud2354,  the develppers dont want to port them to linux.06:21
hikaricoreopengl and openal replace directx quite nicely06:22
DaSkreechDr_willis: it's not all that bad ... anymore :)06:22
semistud2354some ppl say its cost06:22
evsophomore2009Daskreech: I have a problem06:22
DaSkreechhikaricore: No. You still need directinput06:22
Dr_willissemistud2354,  its always about cost of course.06:22
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: ok we may havea solution :)06:22
hikaricorescrew directinput06:22
evsophomore2009i was trying to install Java 6, and my download quit at 30%06:22
DaSkreechhikaricore: I agree06:22
hikaricorea bash script can provide input06:22
evsophomore2009i had everything perfect, and then my computer crashed06:22
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DaSkreechevsophomore2009: Didn't we do this already? :)06:23
stdinevsophomore2009: use the ubuntu package06:23
semistud2354if more games came out on linux microsoft would be screwed06:23
semistud2354is there like a webpage of all the games playable on linux06:23
DaSkreechsemistud2354: Not really but they would certainly be wearing a lot more wet pants06:23
Dr_willisgames are not the end-all-reason for computers to exist06:23
hikaricoremicrosoft propganda is the reason more games don't come out in linux06:23
DaSkreechsemistud2354: Impossible!!!!06:23
evsophomore2009Daskreech: yes we did06:23
DaSkreechsemistud2354: http://hapypenguin.org :-)06:23
evsophomore2009and everything was deleted06:24
hikaricorehttp://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Native_Games  //  http://www.happypenguin.org/06:24
stdinsemistud2354: http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php is probably close06:24
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DaSkreechDr_willis: no but they drive innovation and adoption06:24
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  innovation.. heh.. for more game power! its like cocaine!06:24
DaSkreechDr_willis: .NET 3.0 and DirectX 10 are Vista only06:24
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hikaricore.NET is worthless as well06:24
DaSkreech Which one do people complain about?06:24
DaSkreech :)06:24
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  they drive vendor lock in? :)06:24
hikaricoreI love being off topic as all hell06:24
DaSkreechhikaricore: tell that to Gnome06:24
hikaricoreGnome is pretty worthless06:25
semistud2354someone told me that, it would be difficult for ppl to make games on linux cuz the filesystem on windows is better for games06:25
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: are you using adept?06:25
hikaricoreohh Bleach is on time to go idle06:25
Dr_willisthe .net stuff is why i cant get LordoftheRingsOnline to work with Wine. (yet)06:25
jdmmadeI just saw the rollin with bob saget video, is that shit for real06:25
evsophomore2009Daskreech: yes i am06:25
Dr_willissemistud2354,  thats just stupid i have to say...06:25
semistud2354im not sure if thats true or not06:25
DaSkreechsemistud2354: really?06:25
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semistud2354they said06:25
semistud2354they would have to make the same game 2 times06:25
DaSkreechsemistud2354: Iif they can prove that I'll give them a doctorate06:25
Dr_willissemistud2354,  from the benchmarks/docs ive seen with windows programs and wine. the filesystem under linux can make the programs run faster.06:25
felzixsemistrud2354: I see absolute no reason for that at all.06:25
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: try it from the command line06:25
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DaSkreechevsophomore2009: still edgy?06:26
Dr_willisFilesystem is rather trivial part of the game06:26
evsophomore2009Daskreech: yes06:26
cablesI'm giving KDE a try, is there anything I should look out for or check out?06:26
cablesI'm liking Konqueror's previews.06:26
Dr_williscables,  hit alt-space :)06:26
cablesAlready discovered that :)06:26
Dr_willisfor katapult06:26
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: what is the name of the package?06:26
cablesI don't like Kopete's UI, except for the speech bubbles in the convo windows, it's very Adium-like. Although I have no idea which came first...06:26
semistud2354they said they dont want to spend the extra money to make the game for windows then remake the entire game for linux...because the file system is different06:27
cablesbut i'm sure it's customizable06:27
DaSkreechDr_willis: Hey!! That's my pimp territory!!06:27
evsophomore2009Daskreech: sun-java606:27
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Dr_willisDaSkreech,  get off my lawn!06:27
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: no -jre ?06:27
stdinsemistud2354: umm, that a load of ****06:27
cablesFor some reason Kopete prints out everyone's status when I join a channel, which is annoying06:27
DaSkreechcables: kopete came first then stole adium's styles :006:27
Dr_willissemistud2354,  the 'filesystem' would be the least of the issues.06:27
stdincables: are you using kopete for IRC?06:28
MinatakuDr_willis: So, how goes the garage exploration? XD06:28
felzixsemistud2354: they are either lying or ignorant.  The filesystem changes can be done by search-and-replace, though they could abstract the pathnames to port to most systems if they wanted to06:28
cablesjust for kicks, I installed Konversation06:28
cablesstdin ^^06:28
cpk1well if they made a DX game then they would have to do a lot more work using all the linux equivalents instead06:28
stdinit's installed already06:28
Dr_willisMinataku,  got about a 6x6 inch space left in the box.. not sure what else to pack in.06:28
evsophomore2009Daskreech: sun-java6-jre06:28
MinatakuDr_willis: Heehee06:28
semistud2354well all the answers i get help me make it easier to convert ppl to linux06:28
cablesstdin: good point, I mean I installed it on Gnome before to try it out06:28
DaSkreechcables: ohhhh you are using it for IRC?06:28
DaSkreechcables: try alt+space -> konversation06:28
stdincables: kopere is just wrong for IRC06:28
MinatakuDr_willis: You stuck everything all in one box after all?06:29
Dr_willissemistud2354,  id uses those 'pak' files - and basically have their own filesystem in them :) sort of.06:29
MinatakuOr is this just one box of multiple?06:29
cablesI know! I've tried Konversation, but I wanted to see how Kopete was for chats.06:29
Dr_willisMinataku,  got the calculators and scsi drive and some other stuff. Not found a box big enough for the amigas yet.06:29
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: from the konsole apt-get install sun-java6-jre06:29
Dr_willisMinataku,  i did find some old vcr box's that may fit.06:29
MinatakuDr_willis: Ah, k ^^06:29
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semistud2354wait....is it possible for a couple of ppl to reverse engineer age of empires and make it on linux06:29
cablesSo, GNOME has Bonobo, why aren't they using it for the same things KDE is using KParts for?06:30
MinatakuDr_willis: Heehee, one Amiga per VCR box, then tape 'em together really, really tightly06:30
DaSkreechsemistud2354: there is a project already I recall06:30
felzixsemistud2354: much more important is the lack of .dll files in linux, so things must be handled a bit differently.06:30
Dr_willissemistud2354,  ya could write a clone of it.. no 'reverse enginnering' needed06:30
MinatakuTurn 3 VCR boxes into 1 X306:30
DaSkreech.so ?06:30
cablesOh, and I read that KIO could make Samba access seamless for apps w/o the ability to access an unmounted Samba share, but it didn't exactly work for me.06:30
evsophomore2009Daskreech: how do i end the installation on adpet?06:30
semistud2354cuz thats illegal right06:30
Dr_willisMinataku,  yep - the more i clean/search the more junk i find. I found my LS120 drive today!06:30
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: it's hung?06:30
evsophomore2009Daskreech: yes06:30
MinatakuDr_willis: Awesome!06:30
DaSkreechsemistud2354: sort of not really :)06:30
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Dr_willisMinataku,  i even got some disks for it. heh. Just not sure what use it is - other then a floppy drive for now.06:31
stdincables: you just use the smb:/ kio06:31
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: alt+ctrl+esc and click on it06:31
semistud2354wait...not really06:31
MinatakuDr_willis: Keep me informed on new finds you don't want, BTW :D06:31
semistud2354why dont ppl do it more often06:31
DaSkreech!adept crash fix | evsophomore200906:31
ubotuevsophomore2009: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:31
Dr_willisMinataku,  found osme OS/2 install floppies also!06:31
stdincables: but only KDE apps can use KIOs06:31
cablesstdin: i did that but it said that the app didn't work w/ smb:06:31
Dr_willissemistud2354,  its more fun to write your own original game06:31
DaSkreechsemistud2354: it's hard and people like innovation06:31
cpk1man now that I had to get a new phone via warranty verizon kinda has me by the balls on all the stuff I used to do06:31
cablesI thought it did some sort of voodoo with temporary folders to make everything work with it06:31
stdincables: there is gnome-vfs for gnome apps06:32
cablesI wish GNOME had something like that, anyhow06:32
semistud2354its not illigal06:32
MinatakuI'd say toss in some Amiga floppies but a 1.44MB floppy with tape over the hole makes all kinds of older floppies possible ;306:32
semistud2354if i did it tomorrow microsoft would prolly be sueing my ass06:32
DaSkreechsemistud2354: sepends06:33
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Dr_willisMinataku,  sincve the LS120 uses an ide conector.. i was going to try it in an amiga.. but then i reaized  the amiga uses a Laptop sized ide conector. :(06:33
cablesIt would be cool if they got KIO and gnome-vfs to work w/ any app by having another layer of abstraction i there.06:33
MinatakuDr_willis: Heh06:33
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semistud2354man im in the mood to play 1942...but no windows computer06:33
cableson Konversation now... is there any way to get Xchat's column-ish view?06:33
Dr_willisGames are for the Weak.06:33
semistud2354anyone know any games that are similer06:33
Dr_willissemistud2354,  RTCW:ET06:33
cablesOh, that's nice... ghosting my nick that was logged into Kopete crashed it.06:34
semistud2354whats that06:34
Dr_willissemistud2354,  RTCW:ET   note the ET06:34
Dr_willisReturn to Castle Wolfenstein: enemy terriory06:34
Dr_willisthe free multi-player release06:34
stdincables: hmm? you mean have the channel tabs in a list, ie. not as tabs at the bottom?06:34
semistud2354can i get it from adept06:34
semistud2354or where do i download it06:35
cablesstdin: no, in the actual conversation, Xchat puts the nicks to the left of their messages. It's hard to describe.06:35
Dr_willisSomeone posted sevberal Linux Game URL's earlier06:35
Dr_willisnot in the repos as far as i know.06:35
cablesBasically the nicks go on the left, then there's a line, and the messages stay to the right of the line. Makes it easier to find the nicks properly.06:35
stdincables: like "[05:35]  <cables> stdin: no, in the actual conversation....."06:35
osirisi know this is an odd question, but is there a way to send text messages to cellphones from linux06:36
cablesstdin: Using KDE is making my brain hurt, I'm a little out of my comfort zone, so I'm sort of unintelligible :)06:36
Dr_willisquick google search for rtcw:et and ubuntu - gives ---> http://katanoon.nl/ubu-e/install.php06:36
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cablesI'm a noob all over again06:36
NickPrestasemistud2354, http://tinyurl.com/2s8zyp06:36
semistud2354imma go try some of these games out....06:37
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stdinit time to burst that safe little gnome bubble you live in :p06:37
semistud2354LINUX HEIL!!!!06:37
DaSkreechcables: great place to be06:37
cablesKDE has really nice sounds, I like that. They're not obnoxious like the ones in Windows. I'll probably disable a ton of them, but they're still very nice sounding.06:37
cablesGNOME hardly has any sounds06:37
Dr_willisi tend ti disable ALL the sounds06:38
DaSkreechBy design06:38
stdingnome doesn't want to wake the user up outta their zombie-like state06:38
Dr_willisthat reminds me - i need to work on my Porn Sound Scheme :)06:38
cpk1osiris: dunno about your phone but mine can recieve emails from people as a text06:38
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cablesI like having a simple, no-nonsense UI and use the CLI for whatever else I need to do06:39
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DaSkreechDr_willis: you have sound schemes in KDE?06:39
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stdinI like to have the options there if I want them, tho I always have at least one konsole open06:39
cableswhich reminds me, I haven't tried yakuake06:40
osiriscpk1, that works, but im talking about the sms text messages.  like "text the letters lmao to 1rt3hnoob"06:40
stdincables: yeah, it's Kool :)06:40
DaSkreechcables: ooooh I'm really liking the new one06:40
DaSkreechcables: I was pretty sure konsole was going to kill it06:40
stdinit's based on konsole06:40
DaSkreechthen it said that's not a knife *schewing* This is a Knife06:40
cablesI love how we linux users actually have eye-candy CLIs.06:40
stdintry it with beryl enabled too :p06:41
cpk1I'm confused, what's difference between using an email account and some other app? do you mean while the phone is connected to your computer osiris?06:41
osirisno.  sans phone06:41
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cablescan't you just write an app that interfaces w/ an sms gateway via email?06:42
osirisi wanna send text messages from pc to, say, verizon phones06:42
NickPrestastdin, have you seen the latest from KDE 4 and Konsole? I can't wait for the new Konsole. *giggles*06:42
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  no idea. :) i tend to just disable them all.06:42
cablesosiris: easy, phonenumber@vtext.com06:42
osiriscables, perhaps if i was a code monkey06:42
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  i was working on a XXX icon set at one time.. then started with XXX sound bytes. :006:42
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  then the wife caught me.  so i had to stop06:42
cablesosiris: well there are simple CLI apps to send emails, you could use that...06:42
stdinNickPresta: yeah, I've been keeping apprised of the kde4.0 development, it's sooo Kool06:43
cablesadept-installer isn't too great06:43
NickPrestastdin, indeed! I really like the split view on Konsole specfically. I always have a couple tabs open for compiling and viewing output and such.06:43
cpk1osiris: if you are using verizon you can use the verizon thingy at their website06:43
cablescompared to gnome-app-install06:43
DaSkreechDr_willis: ooooh You had models in for it?06:43
stdincables: I just use apt-get :)06:44
DaSkreechcables: I kinda like adept06:44
cablesosiris: or send email to 7815551234@vtext.com (random phone number there)06:44
DaSkreech it uses debtags which rock06:44
cpk1my verizon phone recieves emails as sms already though...06:44
DaSkreechother than that meh06:44
stdinNickPresta: I'm looking forward to kwin having composit built in too06:44
cablesI use aptitude, but a good GUI app installer is a good thing to have in a DE. Adept may be good, but adept-installer sorta sucks, and that's what the noobs will be using.06:44
cpk1I am not very happy with verizon right now though06:45
cpk1I had to get a new phone via warranty and the newest firmware doesnt play nice with bitpim06:45
stdincables: a recent-ish snapshot of my desktop http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot4xt5.png anything like that in Gnome?06:46
cablesI've installed yakuake, how do I use it now? I'm baffledish.06:46
stdincables: run it, and press F1206:47
cablesstdin: yep, there's gdesklets for widgets, which I don't really like, and GKrellm for the monitor on the side.06:47
NickPrestacables, I believe the default is F12. Press it for a drop down Konsole.06:47
cpk1wow stdin thanks I just realized, why arent I using superkaramba on my laptop06:47
stdincpk1: yes, why aren't you?? :P06:48
cablestilda is supposed to do this, but it fails miserably somehow06:48
stdincables: and this too :) http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot2lh3.png06:48
cablesstdin: that has nothing to do w/ KDE :)06:48
DaSkreechcables: you installed the one from adept?06:48
stdincables: yeah, but I like to show off :)06:48
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cablesstdin: I wish I could have my cube be transparent, but it slows stuff way down on my crappy gfx card. So it's an opaque cube for me :)06:49
stdincables: and I think you can set the keybinding for it to open up06:49
cablesthat's ok, i've got it figured out06:49
stdincables: I only have an intel chip06:49
cablesstdin: I have an old nVidia06:49
cables5200 Go06:49
stdin< intel 94506:50
cablesso how do I configure yakuake? I guess I don't have it figured out.06:50
NickPrestasince we're showing off desktop pictures, http://nickpresta.ath.cx/desktop06:50
DaSkreechcables: which one did you install ?06:50
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cablesDaSkreech: sudo aptitude install yakuake06:51
DaSkreechdang it stop posting desktop screenshots some of us are on dial up!!!06:51
cablesshould i have used adept?06:51
DaSkreechcables: nooooo06:51
stdincables: press F12 to open it, and then click the little down arrow on the bottom right, change the access key06:51
DaSkreechcables: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2915306:51
DaSkreechcables: new one :)06:51
cablesstdin: ok06:52
cablesI suppose I should install aquamarine now06:53
DaSkreechcables: it can do Ctrl+Shift+T :-)06:53
cablesf12 is fine for now06:54
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stdincables: on feisty I just did "sudo apt-get install beryl-kubuntu beryl-manager emerald-themes" and it was installed06:54
cpk1ctrl shift t is my konsole shortcut heh06:54
cablesstdin: I, however, did this: "sudo aptitude install beryl beryl-manager emerald heliodor". Think a little :)06:55
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felzixmy konsole shortcut is windows key + z06:55
cablesfelzix: i assume you mean super+z?06:56
stdincables: beryl-kubuntu installed aquamarine for me06:56
DaSkreechfelzix: not a amarok fan06:56
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cablesstdin: i didn't install beryl-kubuntu... i installed beryl on GNOME when Feisty first came out, I'm only now trying KDE seriously. Before I've installed it, given it a 10-minute try, then gotten rid of it... now I'm actually going to give it the time you guys say it deserves :)06:57
felzixcables: yes06:57
cablesfelzix: just kidding, by the way :)06:57
felzixdaskreech; I'm not sure what amarok has to do with konsole06:57
DaSkreechfelzix: amarok uses that shortcut key06:57
felzixdaskreech: oh06:58
NickPrestafelzix, super+z = previous song06:58
cablesgood night06:58
cablesbed time06:58
cablesfinals tomorrow :(06:58
DaSkreechcables: night'06:58
felzixcables: good luck! (I have a final, too)06:58
cablesit's just that time of year :)06:58
NickPrestagood luck!06:58
cablesthanks guys06:58
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jdmmadecan someone tell me one more time how to install deb files?07:01
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ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)07:02
stdinyou mean package-dev packages07:02
jdmmadeit worked07:03
jdmmadehow can I do that through konsole?07:03
stdinsudo dpkg -i package.deb07:03
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jdmmadeI got to remember this stuf07:05
jdmmadethis is gona take long!07:05
kadazI have a question, how do I install tar.gz packages07:06
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ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression07:06
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kadazbut how does it get installed?07:06
kadazin the menu and such.07:06
stdindepends on what's in it07:06
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kadaza game07:06
stdinwere there any instructions on the site you downloaded it from?07:07
DaSkreech!commands | jdmmade07:07
ubotujdmmade: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal07:07
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DaSkreechkadaz: which game?07:07
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DaSkreechWell that killed the convo07:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gambas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:14
DaSkreech!info gambas07:15
ubotugambas: Visual development environment for the Gambas programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.15-1.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 954 kB, installed size 2228 kB07:15
ardchoillethanks DaSkreech07:15
kadazhah apt-cache install  doesnt work07:19
DaSkreechkadaz: what?07:19
DaSkreechoh the game07:19
kadazusing terminal but command doesnt work07:20
DaSkreechkadaz: look for a file called README07:20
ardchoillekadaz: It's not supposed to work07:20
DaSkreechfollow that hint07:20
kadazwheres setup.exe07:20
kadazhehe,  JK !07:20
kadazhow do I install a logitech camera 500007:20
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haiyahcan k3b be used to copy dvd to dvd using the same drive?07:21
haiyahi mean using one dvd rom only?07:21
kadazoh, you would have to image it to a drive first07:21
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras07:21
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haiyahimage it on a drive? using k3b?07:22
haiyaherr which one07:25
kadazlookin at k3b otions07:25
DaSkreechhaiyah: the one with the space to hold a dvd07:25
kadazhaiyah, theres a copy mode07:25
haiyahI have only copy CD.. then it prompt me to put a cd instead of dvd..hm07:25
kadazoh  I see07:25
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kadazlookin at add/remove apps07:25
stdinhaiyah: Tools -> Copy DVD07:25
haiyahhey i got it07:25
haiyahyeah. its at tools-->copy dvd.. thanks!07:25
stdinhaiyah: copy to an ISO, then burn the ISO to a new DVD07:25
stdinooh, it dose that automatically now :)07:26
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haiyahMATSHITA UJ-820D 1.00 (/dev/hdc, ) at /media/cdrom0 [CD-R; CD-RW; CD-ROM; DVD-ROM; DVD-R; DVD-RW; DVD+R; DVD+RW]  [DVD-ROM; DVD-R Sequential; DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite; DVD-RW Sequential; DVD+RW; DVD+R; CD-ROM; CD-R; CD-RW]  [SAO; TAO; Restricted Overwrite] 07:26
haiyahdoes that mean the dvd is protected?07:27
stdinno, that's the capabilities of the drive07:27
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DaSkreechkadaz: found the readme?07:31
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kadazIam installing the camera, I had to redownload mania07:33
kadazIt says to do this   uvc makefile: Change INSTALL_MOD_DIR := kernel/ubuntu/media/usbvideo07:33
kadazI have downloaded and installed to root/trunk07:33
haiyahwhere is the tasklist like ctrl-alt-del in windows?07:34
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kadazwhats the nexts command  uvc makefile:=kernel/kubuntu/media/usbvideo ?07:35
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stdinhaiyah: try Ctrl-Esc07:35
kadazkubunto roks !!07:36
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waltercoolsomeone can help me a bit?07:41
NickPrestaWhat do you need help with, waltercool07:42
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash07:42
ubotuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/07:42
waltercoolNickPresta: How can i install gnash correctly?? I have installed gnash + konqueror plugin, and in youtuve i only see a black window07:43
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waltercoolbonjour jacques_07:45
DaSkreechkadaz: yes?07:46
kadazTo install the webcam, it says Requires updated uvcvideo driver, easy to get from [WWW]  http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/). uvc makefile: Change INSTALL_MOD_DIR := kernel/ubuntu/media/usbvideo07:46
kadazI got the file and its in the root/trunk folder. now what do I do with it.07:46
DaSkreechkadaz: where are you getting this from?07:47
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras07:47
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jacques_j'installais des packages avec apt, il y a un qui n'arrive pas a etre telecharger. comeent je peux installer les autres ignorant ce package07:50
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:50
waltercoolje ne parle franois... je suis parle english07:50
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waltercoolsomeone can use gnash?07:53
waltercooli need a flash plugin not adobe07:55
waltercoolin konqueror07:55
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nixternal!info konqueror-plugin-gnash07:57
ubotukonqueror-plugin-gnash: free Flash movie player - Plugin for Konqueror. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-1build1 (feisty), package size 128 kB, installed size 268 kB07:57
nixternalwaltercool: ^^07:57
nixternalwould be nice if the latest version could get backported07:57
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kadazok got the game working07:59
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kadazbut not the camera07:59
waltercoolnixternal: i have installed08:03
waltercoolnixternal: but dont work very well08:03
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nixternalwaltercool: ya, that is 0.7.2 for you...I heard that 0.8.0 is better..and YouTube and such work with it now08:04
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Admiral_Chicagothe latest Gnash has been uploaded to gutsy today08:04
waltercoolbefore dont work?08:04
Admiral_Chicagoor packaged for it today that is08:04
Admiral_Chicagothe latest == from CVS08:05
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kadazDoes kubunto come with good nvidia drivers or just generic?08:05
kadazbecause that game mania was really slow.08:05
sivaji_is there any separate kernel  module to loaded to detect dvd in kubuntu08:06
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nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: the latest != from CVS...the latests == Alpha 308:06
nixternal0.8.0 is the release, but the plugins, tools, and what not haven't been updated08:07
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nixternalso it is currently useless in its current state08:07
Admiral_Chicagohmm, i may have looked far too quickly into the channel then...08:08
Admiral_Chicago!nvidia | kadaz08:08
ubotukadaz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:08
sivaji_is there any separate kernel  module to loaded to detect dvd in kubuntu  my system never detect dvd disk ple tell me08:08
kadazyes, I using the nv driver now, but the one that came with the install08:08
Admiral_Chicagoyes, there in an nvidia driver which is proprietary....08:09
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kadazok, so I need to update it08:11
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kadazdoes xserver automatically  update on install or will I need to reconfigure it?08:14
kadazconsider xserver is only a conf file, it will still point to the drivers, uhm08:14
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Admiral_Chicagokadaz: you'll need to restart X but it should work automagically08:16
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kadazgreat, thanks.08:17
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jovanswill the bugfix release of OpenOffice be availible as security update in feisty?08:21
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stdinprobably, yes08:25
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mireyI am really having a tough time getting sound to work in kubuntu08:26
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mireyI spent like an hour trying08:27
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mireyread all the howtos and helps08:27
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mireyit works when I boot into the kubuntu live cd08:27
dsmith_mute off?08:27
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dsmith_sound level up?08:28
mireyI think the problem is I 2 sound cards08:28
mireyI know08:28
dsmith_remove one and see what happens08:28
mireysounds want to play on the first sound card08:28
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louis__hey guys08:28
louis__quick question:  anybody know what cubecaps are?08:28
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cubecaps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:28
crimsunmirey: what's the output from `asoundconf list`?08:28
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mireymirey@kubuntu:~$ asoundconf list08:29
mireyNames of available sound cards:08:29
crimsunmirey: looks like there's only one recognised08:30
mireythats odd08:30
stdinlouis__: the caps of the desktop cube in beryl?08:30
mireybut lspci show 208:30
crimsunmirey: the second line of which is ?08:30
louis__stdin, thanks!08:30
stdinmirey: "aplay -l" ?08:30
mireymirey@kubuntu:~$ lspci | grep audio08:30
mirey00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)08:30
mirey02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS08:30
mireymirey@kubuntu:~$ aplay -l08:31
mirey**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****08:31
mireycard 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5] , device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH5] 08:31
mirey  Subdevices: 0/108:31
mirey  Subdevice #0: subdevice #008:31
mireycard 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5] , device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH5 - IEC958] 08:31
mirey  Subdevices: 1/108:31
crimsunmirey: you haven't done anything silly like attempt to compile alsa-driver yourself, have you?08:31
mirey  Subdevice #0: subdevice #008:31
crimsunmirey: please don't flood here08:31
mireyoh sorry08:31
stdinit only sees one card then08:31
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sivaji_stdin my system cant detect dvd disks08:32
crimsunmirey: what's the output from `lspci -nv|grep 0401 -A1`?08:32
sivaji_stdin but i can read and write cds08:32
stdinsivaji_: can't detect them?08:32
sivaji_stdin yes08:32
stdinsivaji_: do you have a DVD drive, not just a CD drive?08:32
sivaji_stdin ya combo drive08:33
sivaji_i can read and write cds08:33
Admiral_Chicagomirey: pastebin.ca08:33
Admiral_Chicagopost it there and send the URL08:33
dsmith_stdin: thats what I was wondering08:33
stdinsivaji_: well detecting the disk is the firmware's job, it then tells the kernel that there is a medium inserted08:34
sivaji_stdin i could see the dvd is buffered or somthing happens when i insert the dvd into driver but i cant see a icon in desktop08:34
stdinsivaji_: it may still be detected tho. have you tried to mount it?08:35
sivaji_stdin i dont know what to mount either /dev/cdrom or cdrw or dvd or cdrom0 or cdrom108:36
michael__what perms does the chmod 0777 command do?08:36
stdinsivaji_: just "mount /media/cdrom0"08:36
mireyI am revisting this problem from a few months ago, I think I edited my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file08:37
sivaji_stdin ok i wtll try and tell u ple wait08:37
stdinmichael__: gives everyone read/write/execute08:37
michael__how do i check what the current perms are for everyone?08:38
stdinmichael__: ls -l filename08:39
sivaji_sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ sudo mount /media/cdrom008:39
sivaji_mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only08:39
sivaji_sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ sudo mount /media/cdrom0 /home/sivaji/mycomputer/dvd08:39
sivaji_mount: /media/cdrom0 is not a block device08:39
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stdinsivaji_: look in /media/cdrom0 now08:39
sivaji_stdin ok08:40
crimsunmirey: poor thing.  You have a Dell Sound Blaster Live 7.1 24bit with no AC97.08:41
sivaji_stdin ya i can thank u i am struggling for this from paste three days08:41
sivaji_stdin thank u my dear08:41
crimsunmirey: in any case, did you disable the onboard in the bios and blacklist snd-intel8x0?08:41
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stdinsivaji_: it maynot show up on your desktop, but look in media:/ too, it may there too. save you having to type the commands08:42
mireycrimsun: no08:42
sivaji_stdin every will suggest link and go off , but u r not like them08:43
mireycrimsun: howto blacklist snd-intel8x0?08:43
sivaji_stdin am i suppose to mount manually everytime08:43
crimsunecho blacklist snd-intel8x0|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist08:43
stdinsivaji_: it should ask you, but if not, then go to media:/ ,then you can just double click it to mount it08:44
sivaji_stdin ok cant u receive that file08:45
mireycrimsun: did you really mean to say snd_intel8x0 instead of snd-intel8x0?08:45
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michael__how might i access windows shares from ubuntu08:45
michael__! smb08:45
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT08:45
stdinsivaji_: what is it?08:45
sivaji_stdin which i gave u now08:45
crimsunmirey: no, I didn't.  I meant what I typed.08:45
sivaji_stdin my photo08:45
mireyok just checking08:46
sivaji_stdin u dont want to see that08:46
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stdinsivaji_: it's not good practise, and I'm not sure what the CoC says about that08:46
sivaji_stdin ok08:47
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mireycrimsun: thanks for the tips, I am going to reboot and make sure I have disabled the onboard in the BIOS08:48
jacques_with realplay i am having this:Segmentation fault (core dumped)08:48
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mireycrimsun: you still here?09:01
crimsunnot for long, however09:01
mireywell I disabled it the bios, it was enabled09:01
crimsunmeaning the onboard?09:01
mireycrimsun: yes09:02
crimsunok, and what's the output from `lsmod|grep ^snd_ca0106`?09:02
mireycrimsun: snd_ca0106             36228  109:02
ardchoilleIs there something in superkaramba I can click to bring one or all superkaramba components to the front? I'd like to use superkaramba but I have lots of windows open and don't feel like minimising them all just to see the weather.09:02
crimsunmirey: and `asoundconf list`?09:02
mireycrimsun: CA010609:02
crimsunmirey: excellent.09:03
stdinardchoille: why not just switch to a different desktop?09:03
mireycrimsun: but still no sound09:03
crimsunmirey: pastebin `amixer`09:03
ardchoillestdin: Such as?09:04
stdinas in desktop 209:04
mireycrimsun: http://pastebin.ca/56363509:04
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crimsunmirey: mute 'IEC958' and increase 'Analog Front'09:05
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ardchoillestdin: Oh, virtual desktops.. never thought of that.09:06
ardchoilleNever used them.09:06
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ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org09:06
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stdinardchoille: a quick Ctrl-F2, then Ctrl-F1 is all you need09:06
ardchoillestdin: Nice idea09:07
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mireycrimsun: http://pastebin.ca/56363809:07
mireycrimsun: still nothing09:07
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crimsunmirey: 'IEC958' is not muted.09:08
mireycrimsun: ok09:08
mireycrimsun: I got it09:08
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mireycrimsun: Thanks so much09:08
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gastlyhi guys09:09
mireycrimsun: hmm, only sounds out of left speaker...09:09
crimsunmirey: remember to adjust the Analog* elements.09:10
mireycrimsun: um, ok could you point me the right direction?09:10
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mireycrimsun: and adjust how>09:11
mireycrimsun: I got it09:12
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mireythanks again09:12
dcossonhey all - i somehow seem to have trashed kcontrol or something... kcontrol still launches but does not have any control applets in it... anyone know how i might have done that?09:12
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michael__! smb09:14
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:14
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epimethg'morning folks09:17
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gastlyHi guys! I'm a bit new to this IRC stuff, so I was just wondering what IRC client is using. I am currently using Konversation.09:26
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sivaji_habsen  : are u there09:31
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epimethsivaji_: what up amigo?  someone helped you out the other day in the end?09:36
Kernel_Panichello kubunters!!!09:36
sivaji_ya my problem solved now thank u09:36
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Kernel_PanicPlease give to me link to Kylix for ubuntu...09:38
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Kernel_Panic  ///09:41
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jussi01Kernel_Panic: kylix is a depreciated tool, no longer maintained. why do you want it?09:41
Kernel_Panic    Kylix  09:41
jussi01Kernel_Panic: I cant read that, did you change your font or something?09:42
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Kernel_Panic<jussi01> want to switch over to kubuntu/// i delphi programmer from russia09:44
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke09:45
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jussi01Kernel_Panic: If i remember correctly, lazarus + a plugin will work for you09:47
A-L-A-R-Mgoodmorning. what are the directories that i need to keep so that my system after a reinstall will have the same look, fonts, settings as before ? just .kde ?09:49
mireyanyone remember howto disable the animated tooltips that you get when hovering over items on the panel?09:49
agn0sticmirey: right click, configure panel?09:49
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arun_hello.. i am trying to move some files from my kubuntu to a fat32 partition on my hard drive, and it says 'could not write to /media/sda6/'09:50
arun_why won't it write to the partition? i can write other files, just not this one09:50
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mireyagn0stic: thanks09:51
agn0sticarun_: you can write to other files on that partition?09:51
mireyHow do I tell which version of glibc I have?09:51
jussi01A-L-A-R-M: why are you reinstalling? IIRC, you can just reinstall and just unclick the format drives bit when you are in the partition program.09:51
A-L-A-R-Mi didnt understand that09:52
arun_agn0stic: yes09:52
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agn0sticarun_: you can write to other things on /media/sda6/ - but it won't let you write some things? That's odd. Is the disk full? Are you trying to do it in different ways?09:53
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jussi01A-L-A-R-M: when you have booted from the live cd and start installing, it come up to the part where you setup the partitions, in this section are little tick boxes to format or not format the drive, if you choose to not fomat by unclicking the tickboxes it will reinstall with out losing anything.09:54
A-L-A-R-Mwell now i did it allready :)09:54
jussi01A-L-A-R-M: ok09:55
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A-L-A-R-Mbtw, finally installing the invidia drivers from the .run file is much more easier than the drivers from the repo09:55
A-L-A-R-Mok, now another question09:56
A-L-A-R-Mi am told on my system that i got Xorg Version 1.3.0 can that be ?09:57
arun_agn0stic: no, the disk isn't full09:57
arun_there 7.5gb free09:58
arun_i'm just copying and pasting, like i do with other files09:58
agn0sticarun_: is it a certain directory on /media/sda6 that won't let you copy to it?09:58
louis_anybody here ever use songbird?09:59
arun_doesnt work on any directory09:59
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agn0sticarun_: it's probably a permissions issue. could you pastebin your /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab?09:59
arun_agn0stic: why can i copy some files and not others10:01
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chrismirIn previous versions, when I pressed <F2> on a file in konqueror, it would highlight (select) the filename, excluding the extension. Now with 7.04 it selects the whole filename, including the extension.10:02
chrismirIs there a way to get the old behaviour back?10:02
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agn0sticarun_: you probably don't have permissions to. try to sudo copy files into it from a terminal10:03
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux10:03
arun_the files i want to copy have 77710:07
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hiyahhi anyone familar with lilo can help me out here.. i'm cloning my harddisk to another by mounting and copying.. after that i need to chroot the mounted drive to make it bootable10:07
arun_and i can copy other files to the same partition without a problem10:07
hiyahbut i always hit into kernel panic..10:07
kadazgot it working Admiral, thank you10:07
agn0sticarun_: you can copy other files into /media/sda6?10:07
hiyahin the end i need to boot using cd and chroot then it will work.. is there any ways i can make the drive bootable when its mount?10:07
arun_agn0stic: yes10:07
arun_i cant copy just this one folder10:07
hiyahsdb1 is mounted on /mnt/clone , so i type chroot /mnt/clone /sbin/lilo10:07
agn0sticarun_: stumped me.10:07
arun_it's a rar file if that's any help10:07
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agn0sticarun_: can you copy other rars onto it?10:07
kadazIam trying to get a logitech vid camera working  !webcam but now what.10:07
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kadazI downloaded the files and I have extracted them, I have a list of files for this webcamera and I dont know what to do next.10:09
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ALarmone more question please :) why when trying to remove for example kdegames, or kdeaccesibility it tries also to remove the kde package ? i remember once i did remove them without needed to remove kde or base packages10:10
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cursors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cursor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:11
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdewebdesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:12
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Jucato!botabuse | kadaz10:15
ubotukadaz: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...10:15
kadazthank you, I been forewarned.10:16
kadazNow Iam forearmed :D10:16
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ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...10:16
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hiyahhow come when i type exit after logging in as root, i'll hang with the last message INIT: no more process to run in this runlevel10:18
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hiyahanyone knows why is it that when i type exit after logging in as root, it will show "INIT: no more process to run in this runlevel" and hang there.. i couldn't type or do anything..but i can log in remotely only10:20
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dfeserhi there10:22
dfeserdoes someone use truecrypt?10:23
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kadazHi Iam trying to run sauerbraten10:28
kadazHow do I chmod it to an exe10:29
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Lynourekadaz: no matter what it is, chmod u+x filename  makes it runnable type10:31
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Lynourewhether it will then run or not is another matter :)10:31
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kadazok, ok I done that10:32
kadazwill the runnable type still be the same file?10:32
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kadazok, I look into it, I did that, but still asking to open with :P10:35
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epimethkadaz: have you tried running it from the cli?11:01
kadazI got some directFB errors11:02
epimethkadaz: sorry... dunno what those are11:03
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kadazwhat? I have to rebuild the kernal to put the framebuffer files in?11:15
kadazoh my11:16
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:19
kadazAnyone know how to get cube running?11:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cube - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:19
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kadazIam so happy to have Kubunto install on this computer !!!!!!!!11:23
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kadazsuch a very nice OS11:24
kadazway better than any WINDOZE11:24
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vishamhi folks11:26
vishamcan any one tell me what is flow control in terms of ethernet cards and how is it related to the execution of nmap?11:27
vishamalso does firewall on my adsl router affect the performance of nmap OS scans?11:27
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arashHello, how do I add codecs, I cant find Medibuntu in "add/remove programs"11:29
oti1google "ubuntu users"11:29
oti1in the wiki there is a topic about codecs11:30
oti1the ugly plugins are for mp3 :p11:32
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vishamany nmap users in here?11:37
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arashGuys, Amarok says I cant open any radio station11:37
arashI dont have program for it or something it says11:38
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pawitpCookie in konq is suddenly broken11:56
pawitpkhtml (dom): WARNING: Can't communicate with cookiejar!12:00
pawitpSeems like kcookiejar is broken12:01
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kadaztry streamtuner12:03
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henri_arash, you have all media codec installed?12:08
kadazI realized after I sent a msg to him, hes Gone112:08
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henri_:-) so it seems12:08
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dennis__anyone knows how to install a printerdriver if the provider or linux doesn't supply a suitable one?12:41
kumamotodennis__: you can check out linuxprinting.org for equivalent drivers that can work with your printer.12:42
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows12:42
dennis__thx people, i'll check it out12:43
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apt-getCan someone help me12:46
apt-getI am locked out of add/remove12:46
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apt-getMy apept installer is locked12:48
apt-getHow do I unlock it?12:48
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:48
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puesto06                                                                                                                                                                   ey12:55
puesto06k pasa gonzalo12:56
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puesto06el luis es un marikita xo no se lo digais a nadie12:56
aula12uy k wapo esto no?12:56
aula12_eres un mierda xeda12:56
puesto06kambiaos el nombre12:56
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ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:56
puesto07trillo y luis gays12:57
puesto08kitate mi apellido12:57
Trilloyo soi trillo12:57
puesto08sera marica12:57
Trillotu eres un impostor12:57
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pawitp!ubotu | Attention12:58
ubotuAttention: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:58
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ubotufoo is bar01:02
ubotufoo is bar01:03
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henrik_Could someone point me to a place where I can get the kubuntu panel background? (I currently dont use kubuntu, so I dont have access to it)01:11
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xerosishenrik_: try looking in: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8037521/kubuntu-default-settings_7.10-4.tar.gz01:17
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henrik_xerosis: Thanks01:18
xerosishenrik_: yeah it's kubuntu-panel.png in there01:19
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henrik_xerosis: jup ;)01:21
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tdnWhat tool do I use to securely erase my hard disc?01:23
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henrik_tdn: you could use wipe01:24
tdnhenrik_, ok.01:25
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faidillingerWhich one is the best : Koffice or OpenOffice ???01:28
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.01:28
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Gast850hey zusammen01:29
Gast850hab eine frage bezglich gpg:01:29
faidillingerthen which one do you guys prefer and why ?01:29
Gast850hatte zurvor auf ner windowsbox ein schlsselpaar erzeugt. Wie kann ich nun den geheimen schlssel in gpg importieren01:30
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kadazwhere does rpm packages get installed?01:30
ardchoillekadaz: We don't use rpm packages in kubuntu01:30
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ardchoilleWe use .deb packages01:30
kadazcan I extract a rpm package?01:30
ardchoilleI believe there are apps that let you extract an rpm, but installing an rpm is dangerous.01:31
Gast850is this chanlle english speaking only ?01:31
kadazI just installed a cursor rpm01:31
ardchoilleGast850: Yes01:31
faidillingerhow can i try kde4 with kubuntu ??01:31
Gast850oh ok01:31
ubotuFor at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.01:31
kadazhow do I  fix this??01:31
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ardchoillekadaz: How did you install it?01:32
Gast850so my question is: i once generated a pair of keys with pgp. Now i want to import the secret key to gpg, how can i do this?01:32
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kadazusing root term   I rpm the packaged and it said it installed.01:32
ardchoilleGast850: The secret key should already be in your gpg key ring01:32
ardchoillekadaz: What command did you use?01:33
kadazI had to download it01:33
Gast850ardchoille: not after a fresh install of gpg on my linuxbox, since the secret + pub key(rings) were generated on a win box01:33
ardchoillekadaz: So you have alien installed?01:33
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kadaz?? yah01:34
ardchoilleGast850: I use kgpg to import new keys. You can try that.01:34
kadazI thought rpm was like lha01:34
Gast850ardchoille, so there's also an option zu import the secret key?01:34
ardchoillekadaz: Using alien is dangerous. I would suggest to uninstall the rpm and stay away from them. Try to find a .deb package.01:34
kadazwhats the uninstall cmd01:35
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ardchoilleGast850: I believe there is a cli command to import, but I don't know what it is.01:35
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ardchoillekadaz: If you have rpm installed, I believe it's: rpm -e package01:36
ardchoilleThen I feel you should uninstall rpm too as it can break your system.01:37
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ardchoille!alien | kadaz01:38
ubotukadaz: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)01:38
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kadazsudo apt-get remove01:39
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kadazRemoved rpm ...01:40
kadazthank you !01:41
ardchoilleYou're welcome :)01:42
kadazI have another questioon01:42
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kadazI  downloaded the file. and extracted it to /trunk  and now I dont know what to do.01:42
kadazI went to this site and for the logitech 5000, it said get this file and then do this.01:44
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manuel_CIAO A TUTTI01:45
kadazIam going to try the first site01:46
manuel_QUALCHE ITALIANO??01:46
yamal!it | manuel_01:46
ubotumanuel_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:46
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manuel_OK SORRY01:47
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frojnddoes kopete support to have more than one acc on msn protocol?01:47
GrueliusIve got a funny problem, ive got a dual screen setup which is working perfectly except for when i have files on one desktop (say the right one) i cant drag them to the left, the mouse moves with the outlines of the files however the files dont move :(01:47
kadazcp from desktop to desktop01:48
kadazThere might be a way to do it, but I wont be able to help :D01:48
kadazsometimes if you take your second moniter over top of the other one, and give it shake, sometimes your files will fall onto the other desktop.01:49
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Grueliuslol kadaz01:53
Grueliusso are there two desktop folders or something?01:53
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ninjahkvhola y buenos dias a todos01:54
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Grueliusi feel kde is above gnome01:54
Grueliuscoming from gnome01:54
Tm_Tfrojnd: haven't found limit in accounts yet, I had 4 msn accounts online at one time01:55
kadazI agree01:55
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kadazgruelius,  I dont have an answer. I have two moniters, but havnt tested out the second one yet.01:56
Grueliuscould you try dragging a file across? :p01:56
kadazI could enable it and start another session01:56
primordium_Hello! I have a little question here! The Adept notifier/updater have appeared in my desktop has a green light, and when i closed it, it asked if i want it to run next time and i said no! now im worried if i did wrong, and now i dont have updates... can anyone help me?01:57
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kadazill try this01:58
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ContrastGreets, everyone...02:00
ContrastCan someone help me with getting streaming video playing in Konqueror?02:00
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ContrastI already have kmplayer-base and kmplayer-konq-plugin installed (as well as mozilla-mplayer, but when I go to a page with embedded video, the area where the video should be is just black, with the buttons at the bottom. Hitting play does nothing.02:01
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primordium_anyone know what im talking about ??02:06
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Contrastprimordium_: You're safe. :-)02:07
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kadazwell that didnt work so well02:07
primordium_thanks! i was worried because the GREEN LIGHT didnt show up again02:07
ContrastYou just won't be notified of new updates, but you can still run Adept Updater and get them.02:07
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primordium_but i want to be notified02:07
primordium_how can i reverse this?02:09
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Contrastprimordium_: Try digging around in the settings for Adept. I'd say there's an option for it. Sorry I can't help more than that, but I haven't used Adept in months and no longer have it installed.02:09
Jucatoprimordium_: you can run notifier manually: adept_notifier02:09
ContrastJucato: Isn't there also an option in its settings to start it when you log in?02:09
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JucatoContrast: well, that's the default behavior in the first place.02:09
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jakub_Anybody familiar with Blender?02:10
primordium_i found the adept-notifierrc and it have inside the Autostart=false, i changed to true02:11
sivaji!splash screen02:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about splash screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:11
sivaji! info splash screen02:11
ubotuPackage splash does not exist in feisty02:11
primordium_maybe this works i guess02:11
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ubotuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork02:13
ContrastJucato: I know, but that goes for other programs too, and they still have an option somewhere to set it back to autostart.02:13
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Contrastprimordium_: If all else fails, you can always just put a link to Adept Notifier in /home/yourname/.kde/Autostart02:13
primordium_yeah :) thanks02:13
Contrastsivaji: What are you trying to find out?02:13
sivajii want more slpash screen02:13
Jucatoprimordium_, Contrast: actually, there should be an entry in /usr/share/autostart02:14
kadazhow can I disable acpi in kubuntu02:14
Jucatoyou can manually edit the .desktop file as a plain text file02:14
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ContrastOh ok. My fault.02:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:16
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Contrastprimordium_: Sounds like you got it on your own. I'd imagine that's the proper way to get it back, barring a checkbox for it somewhere in Adept's settings.02:17
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ardchoilleAnyone know how I can find out a command that does the same thing as some of the stuff in kcontrol? kcontrol > Security & Privacy > Privacy ; Select All > Clean Up > Apply   <-- I'd like to know how to do that from cli.02:19
primordium_Contrast: thanks for the help, im seeking trought the files now, but i guess its done... :D02:20
ContrastDoes anyone know the file format that plugins for Konqueror have to be in?02:21
JucatoContrast: same format for any browser plugin. nsplugins02:21
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ContrastThanks Jucato. Actually, pointless question. I just saw that Konqueror's already recognizing the mozilla-mplayer plugin. It's just that it's still trying to use kmplayer to play embedded video instead, and when I tried apt-get removing kmplayer-base and kmplayer-konq-plugin, Konqueror just crashed when I went to a site with streaming video.02:24
JucatoContrast: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> specific file type -> Embedding tab02:25
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steveireHey. Has anyone here ever copied an ubuntu installation from one harddrive to another?02:27
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steveireI want to know the RightWay to do it.02:28
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xerosissteveire: using dd is probably your best bet02:31
ContrastJucato: Thanks a lot, looks like that got it. Now it's just stuttering like crazy though. Brb02:31
klakettehi :)02:31
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steveirexerosis: Have you done it?02:31
xerosissteveire: 'fraid not02:31
xerosisdd just copies a disk completely though, so it's the best way to do it02:31
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xerosissteveire: plenty of guides on google02:31
steveirexerosis: From a liveCD?02:31
xerosissteveire: any liveCD will have it02:32
steveireI mean, do I need to be not using the drive that I'm copying while doing it?02:32
xerosissteveire: if nothing else, it'll slow it down02:33
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Whiteyhi all, I've been having trouble with my ati video card since upgrading my kernel recently02:37
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Whiteyis anyone available to help? :)02:37
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:37
crdlbWhitey, what ati card?02:38
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Whiteyradeon... 9800 I think02:38
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Whiteyit's definitly a radeon though02:38
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crdlbWhitey, using the proprietary driver?02:38
WhiteyI'm not sure what that is :P02:38
crdlbWhitey, run: fglrxinfo02:38
Whiteyit tells me I'm using the generic one02:38
ContrastJucato: Figured it out. Just had to tweak the cache size.02:38
ContrastJucato: Greatly appreciated.02:39
crdlbWhitey, but it is installed then02:39
Jucatoum.. ok.. :)02:39
crdlbWhitey, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:39
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:39
Whiteyty :)02:39
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Whiteyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25396/ <<< my Xorg.0.log02:40
WhiteyI only noticed the problem after reseting the other night02:41
Whiteyand I remember updaing my kernel stuff the other day :P02:41
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Whiteywhen scouring google for answers, I saw the problem can be caused upon upgrade, if the drivers are incompatible02:41
Whiteybut I can't seem to do anything to make them work :P02:41
crdlbWhitey, sudo modprobe fglrx02:42
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crdlbwhat happens if you try that?02:42
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Whiteyeep, scary :P02:42
WhiteyFATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': No such file or directory02:42
Whiteyoh... FGL stands for Fire GL :D02:43
WhiteyI never knew that ^_^02:43
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crdlbWhitey, sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)02:43
WhiteyI removed and installed them earlier, but ok :P02:43
kaizadwhat is cyber sex ?02:43
Whiteylike phone sex, but with text :)02:44
Whiteyall done crdlb02:44
polopolo!off-topic | :P:P:P02:44
kaizadoh .... so how do u do i t?02:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:44
steveirekaizad: It involves a harddrive and virus protection02:45
crdlbpolopolo, looking for !offtopic ?02:45
kaizadi mean do v need 2 take ny pills for it ?02:45
crdlbWhitey, well try this: sudo lrm-manager02:45
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:45
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kaizadmy yahoo id is not working ! :(02:45
crdlbWhitey, then, repeat: sudo modprobe fglrx02:46
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Whiteyis something meant to open crdlb?02:46
kaizadie .. in gaim !02:46
Whiteyok, done - no output :P02:46
kaizadit says ur screen name is incorrect02:46
crdlbWhitey, now restart X without rebooting02:46
Whiteycrdlb: what's the best way to do that? :)02:46
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kaizadbut i hav given a id & pw correct !02:46
WhiteyCtrl + Alt + Backspace?02:46
kaizadhey HELP !02:46
crdlbWhitey, log out and ctrl+alt+bksp from the login screen02:46
Whiteybtw, my card is an ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro] 02:46
Whiteyok, brb ^_^02:47
polopolo!ping | polopolo02:47
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WhiteyOpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.02:49
crdlbWhitey, here's the thing, it probably won't work on reboot02:49
Whiteythank you crdlb :D02:49
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WhiteyI suppose I have to edit a configuration file? :P02:49
crdlbbut running: sudo lrm-manager && sudo modprobe fglrx02:50
crdlbwill make it work02:50
crdlbyou could probably put that in an init script or something02:50
Whiteyis there a way to make it work automagically? :P02:50
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Whiteyjust out of curiosity, why does it do this? :P02:50
Whiteyand how did I/you fix it? :P02:50
crdlbabsolutely no idea02:50
crdlbwell lrm-manager copies the restricted module to where modprobe can load it02:50
crdlbbut it's supposed to happen on boot02:51
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Whiteyis this because I'm using the latest restricted modules? =/02:51
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Whiteyif so, is it possible for me to revert? :P02:52
WhiteyI mean, adapt told me to update, so I'd assume they're not bleeding edge...02:52
crdlbno, it just broke :)02:52
Whiteyoh :P02:53
Whiteyhow do I create an init script? :P02:53
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WhiteyI've done a small amount of bash scripting in the past, but I don't know how to run one on init02:53
WhiteyI suppose I'd want it to run before X starts too...02:53
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crdlbhaven't needed to on *buntu so I don't know02:54
crdlbyeah that would be good02:54
Whiteytha'ts ok, I'm sure I can find out somewhere ^_^02:54
Whiteythanks anyway crdlb :)02:54
crdlbnp :)02:54
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Whiteyfor the curious, it's quite simple to do ^_^02:56
rjune__What's the "official" way to set IP address information on ubuntu-server? and is there a gui frontend?02:57
kadazhey guys, do you know where to put the linux uvc drivers?02:57
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kadazwhat do you mean by set?02:59
kadazlike manually doing it?02:59
WebAppMonkeyFor a desktop install of Kubuntu Feisty should I just download and install kubuntu-7.04-desktop-amd64.iso? Or should I get alternate too?02:59
arashOK, guys, one thing is really pissing me of with this KDE, once you by mistake drag or drop a menu a tiny bit, it all get ruined, how can i restore a windows normal settings to the default layout?03:00
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WebAppMonkeyI plan on just installing over my OpenSuSe root and user partitions and keeping my disk structure otherwise intact03:00
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rjune__kadaz: I mean I have ubuntu server installed. I want to not use dhcp for the address.03:01
rjune__so I need to assign it a static IP.03:01
WebAppMonkeyrjune__: To temporarily assign a static IP you can use `sudo ifconfig <adapter> <ip>`. You are looking to assign an IP to a linux box, yes?03:02
rjune__WebAppMonkey: I want to do it permanantly.03:02
WebAppMonkeyrjune__: As far as setting it to do that at boot is distro-specific... Someone else will have to help you until I move over to Kubuntu :)03:02
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|neonlinux|rjune__: u have a screen on that server?03:03
rjune__|neonlinux|: of course.03:03
WebAppMonkeyrjune__: At the very least there should be something in /etc/rc.d03:03
WebAppMonkeyDepending on what boot structure Kubuntu uses? SysV?03:03
|neonlinux|ok.. goto the k menu.. then to systemsettings03:03
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rjune__WebAppMonkey: yeah /etc/rc.d/networking. I'm wanting to know the specific ubuntu tools though.03:03
rjune__|neonlinux|: ubuntu-server. text console, not X03:04
|neonlinux|ahh... hmmm.. ill see what i can find03:04
BlueDevili'm running feisty on a core2duo/asus p5b-deluxe and it won't see the whole 4GB of ram, it only sees 2GB; what can i do to fix it?03:08
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WebAppMonkeyA question: Will the desktop install allow me to do a detailed selection of what partitions I want to use for what mountpoints? Ie: I just want to replace my / and /usr.03:08
rjune__though since we are talking about it. will Network Manager write the data to /etc/network/interfaces? or will it create it's own config?03:08
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WebAppMonkeyrjune__: Network Manager is a userspace tool, I would *assume* it's changes are in its own configuration03:08
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|neonlinux|rjune__: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-ubuntu-system-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address.html#more-803:08
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rjune__WebAppMonkey: then ubuntu uses it's default format. because using network manager to set the ip address writes it to where I would expect.03:08
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WebAppMonkeyrjune__: So NetworkManager changes the /etc/rc.d/networking config file?03:09
dfanI've been getting some kernel panics with feisty and I think I might get an idea how to reproduce it.03:09
rjune__WebAppMonkey: no. it changes /etc/network/interfaces03:09
rjune__I wouldn't expect anything to change /etc/rc.d/networking unless you were using slack.03:10
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WebAppMonkeyrjune__: I come from two years of being a slacker :) All this fancy user-space stuff is new to me.03:13
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WebAppMonkeyrjune__: I just compiled my own Xorg server + glibc + GCC one-too-many-times03:14
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rjune_oy, sorry bout that.03:19
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rjune_WebAppMonkey: You're coming from OpenSuSE then?03:19
WebAppMonkeyrjune_: I've used slack forever, I just recently switched to OpenSuSe, but Novell's political moves have made me look for another modern OS03:20
WebAppMonkeyEr, distro at least03:20
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rjune_You'll quickly find that slack does things differently from most other distros.03:24
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scullderhi !03:25
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WebAppMonkeyrjune_: And it is unfortunate that everything else does things differently than slack... It is a wonderfully elegant system. Unfortuately, I desire modern features... like beryl.03:32
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scalessomebody help i installed nvidia drivers but beryl wouldnt start why????03:33
crdlbscales, glxinfo|grep OpenGL\ version03:33
scalescrdlb: where i can view it?03:37
crdlbscales, in a terminal03:37
scalescrdlb: whatis the command03:37
crdlbscales, I just told you03:37
WebAppMonkeyscales: alt+f2, type konsole, run that. Then type the command crdlb wrote.03:37
crdlboh that03:37
scalesit says03:37
scalesXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:37
scalesXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:37
scalesXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:37
scalesError: couldn't find RGB GLX visual03:37
scalesXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:37
scalesXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:37
JuJuBeeWhat should I be using to authenticate in a client server environment?  I tried NIS (broken) and LDAP(cant get to work).03:37
scalesXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:37
scalesXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:37
Jucato!paste | scales03:37
ubotuscales: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:37
scalesXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:37
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scalesXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:37
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scalescrdlb: what i can do?03:37
crdlbscales, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:37
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crdlbuse the pastebin link above03:37
kadazcrdlb did you set your driver proprietary?03:38
WebAppMonkeyBefore I waste a CD, will the desktop install allow me to setup the partitions it uses? (I just want to overwrite / and /usr, but not /home, and otherwise keep my partition table setup)03:38
kadazI meant scales03:38
scaleskadaz: with envy on auto03:39
kadazafter you updated your nvidia drivers, you need to set it from standard to proprietary03:39
JucatoWebAppMonkey: definitely yes03:39
scalesi just cant understand why it so tuff to install some drivers03:39
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JucatoWebAppMonkey: make sure you uncheck the box that indicates whether the partition will be formatted or not03:39
crdlbscales, because you used envy03:39
kadazwhat is envy?03:40
WebAppMonkeyJucato: Thank you, I'll be back in less than an hour then, when I'm back from an install :)03:40
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!03:40
JucatoWebAppMonkey: good luck03:40
WebAppMonkeyIf that isn't too optimistic :)03:40
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polopolocan someone say gow I can remove the folder .gVerse03:40
WebAppMonkeyJucato: It can't be any worse than installing slack..03:41
WebAppMonkeyOr LFS03:41
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yatinhi i am having problems with suspend and hibernate03:44
yatini have a dell dimension 820003:44
polopolocan someone say how I can remove the folder .gVerse03:48
scalesgive me a tip how to install them03:48
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ardchoillepolopolo: rm -r .gVerse03:48
yatinwhen i click suspend, the comp suspends just fine, however when i press the power button to come out of uspend, i just get a blank screen, no cursor or anything, and the usb keyboard is completely nonresponsive03:48
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scales crdlb can you give me some help?03:48
crdlbscales, are you going to pastebin your log?03:48
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:48
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scalescrdlb: but without the pastebin ......just some hints03:48
polopoloardchoille thank you03:48
crdlbscales, um03:48
ardchoilleYou're welcome :)03:48
crdlbmake sure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf says Driver "nvidia"03:48
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crdlbnot "nv" or "vesa"03:48
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scalescrdlb: how can i see them?03:48
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scalescrdlb: explain me like to a lame :)))03:49
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crdlbscales, run: sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 2403:49
crdlbthat /should/ handle everything assuming envy didn't screw up03:50
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scalescrdlb: command not found03:50
crdlbscales, nvidia-xconfig ?03:51
crdlbshouldn't have used envy like we repeatedly told you03:51
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scaleswhat to do reinstal linux?03:52
crdlbyou should install /real/ feisty03:52
crdlbnot that ultimate edition thing03:52
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scalescrdlb: do you know the ultimate edition distribution03:54
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scalesyou should download it03:54
crdlbno I shouldn't03:54
crdlband I really recommend you don't either03:55
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ardchoilleI fail to understand the need for a script to install nvidia drivers. All I had to do was 'sudo apt-get install nvidia glx', 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable', 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', and restart x and it was installed.03:55
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benjamin_hrit isnt that easy for all of us ardchoille ;)03:56
scaleswww.youtube.com/?v=_CPEfFdfEdg take a look at it03:56
benjamin_hror better wasnt, cause one installed, if the kernel doesnt change, everythings fine of course :)03:56
crdlbsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-generic && sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 2403:56
crdlbeven better :P03:56
ardchoillebenjamin_hr: My kernel changed and the nvidia drivers are still running03:57
benjamin_hrthat never worked for me, they messed up my restricted modules or something else, cause i had to reinstall everything everytime i changed the kernel03:57
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alumnoq guey03:58
benjamin_hrbut, i dont change kernels like underwear, so its not that bad ;)03:58
ardchoilledid you install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site or from source or something?03:58
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WebAppMonkeyNice installer03:58
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benjamin_hrfirst with aptitude, but that didnt worked, than by source, that didnt work either (but here it was my lazyness and inexperience) and then via envy, which worked03:59
alumnoshut up03:59
benjamin_hryoure must be a girl03:59
azzcoI'm trying to setup a LAN sharing a few folders with my brother (windows system) I've tried to follow the wiki but he doesn't get access to any files, help?04:00
benjamin_hrmy girlfriend always reacts that way anytime i mentiion anything about computers04:00
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benjamin_hrespecially with friendly nerds nearby ;)04:00
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WebAppMonkeybenjamin_hr: Stop making things up, linux users don't have girlfriends.04:00
azzcoWebAppMonkey: LOL04:00
benjamin_hri think there was something about that in a fortune cookie file, maybe ill find it04:01
WebAppMonkeybenjamin_hr: Have you ever seen pictures of aKademy?04:01
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scalescrdlb: both of command are working now what to do next?04:01
crdlbscales, what?04:02
scalessudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-generic && sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 2404:02
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benjamin_hri didnt know what that was, but a google (image) search revealed it :D04:02
crdlbscales, ugh04:02
crdlbscales, you can't do that on top of envy04:02
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WebAppMonkeybenjamin_hr: If you don't I'd suggest you read the dot sometime. http://dot.kde.org04:03
scalescrdlb: what to do next ....can i start the drivers today or no04:04
crdlbscales, if you reinstall the drivers with envy, it /might/ work04:04
benjamin_hroh kk04:04
WebAppMonkeyIt is filled with all sorts of exciting stuff, like videos of plasma!04:04
benjamin_hri read slashdot regularly so dont expect to much excitment from me, but ill look into it :)04:05
azzcoscales: Have you restarted X?04:05
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WebAppMonkeybenjamin_hr: Think of it as a nerdier slashdot04:06
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sivaji__azzco alt+ctrl+backspace04:08
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MurDoGGmh ich mchte ein paket deinstallieren ohne die abhngigen pakete zu deinstallieren, wie geht das mit apt-get04:08
benjamin_hrhehe kk04:08
pag!de | MurDoGG04:08
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ubotuMurDoGG: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:08
WebAppMonkeyTime to reboot to my new Kubuntu install04:08
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MurDoGGoh sorry i want to remove a package but don't interest in dependies, how can i solve this with apt-get04:09
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sivaji2009MurDoGG use aptitude04:10
alumnoI Shet in you04:10
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llutzMurDoGG: if you remove a package other depend on, you'll end in broken packages04:11
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alumnohola q ac04:11
alumno__ehhhh aburrirme04:11
alumnoyo tambien04:11
sivaji2009alumno__ are u mad ?04:12
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ardchoille!coc | alumno__04:13
ubotualumno__: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/04:13
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WebAppMonkeyWow, Adept is the package manager Yast *dreams* of being04:13
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openmoko - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:20
Silent_Ghello, iv downloaded kubuntu DVD and somehow its crashing with a bunch of colours , my video chipset is Via Chrome9 K8m890 and its not supported by most distros but its supported by Vesa, is their anyway or option i can install kubuntu using the vesa driver? or maybe some driver for my chipset?04:20
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Bojemoinsen :)04:23
KomiaPoikawhats the package name to install cups04:23
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JuJuBeeAm I the only one trying to use ubuntu in a client server env?  What do other people use to handle authentication?04:23
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wolferineJuJuBee, LDAP?04:26
JuJuBeeI am pulling my hair out trying to get it to work.04:26
wolferineits like everything in life, it was easy, it just wouldnt be worth it :)04:27
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hoganAnyone know why my Wireless card (eth1) will enable for about 2 seconds then disable again?04:28
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JuJuBeewolferine : you using feisty?04:29
JuJuBeeGot any pointers to getting it to work?04:30
ric19newhi all newbie here04:30
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JuJuBeeWhere can I find pam/ldap logs?04:38
azzcoHow do I add more users in samba, and how do I give them proper access to shared files?04:38
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MinatakuYeah, my Ultra 1 has a bad CG6 >.<04:39
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MinatakuReseating it failed to have any effect04:39
MinatakuHeya, DaSkreech04:39
DaSkreechH i Minataku04:39
Daisuke_Idogood morning!04:39
MinatakuMy Ultra 1 has a bad CG6 ;o;04:40
DaSkreechgood morning :)04:40
MinatakuOh well04:44
MinatakuNo biggie04:44
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Corey8067Is it possible to upgrade to version 7.04 using the CD without having to reinstall everything?04:44
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)04:44
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DaSkreechCorey8067: depends on which Cd you mean04:44
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Corey8067DaSkreech: the CD is 7.04, i just got it today04:44
DaSkreechCorey8067: Live CD or alternate?04:44
ardchoilleCorey8067: From Ship It?04:44
Corey8067Yeah from ship it04:44
ardchoilleIt's a live cd04:44
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DaSkreechCorey8067: Did you get two of them? :-)04:44
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Corey80673 actually04:44
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DaSkreechCorey8067: What are the labels on them?04:44
DaSkreechOh wait never mind I just got you :(04:44
ardchoilleCorey8067: If you just got that livecd today, it's probably 7.0404:44
Corey8067Yeah it is04:44
ardchoilleCorey8067: I think you can just pop that cd in and the system will ask if you want to upgrade.04:45
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Corey8067Ok :)04:46
Corey8067i am impressed with the delievery time as well04:48
ardchoilleHow long did it take?04:48
Corey8067like 2 weeks max04:49
ardchoilleAbout the same here.04:49
Corey8067i am gussing that it wasn't stopped at Customs04:49
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TheGateKeepershould kubuntu autodetect usb pendrive or do I have to mount & if so what is the syntax?04:51
DexterFis there a gtk2 theme to match kdes "polyester"? the gtk-qt wrapper isn't working04:51
DexterFTheGateKeeper: should autodetect and present a win-xp-style pop up what to do with it04:51
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TheGateKeeperDexterF: that is not happening, so how do I mount it?04:53
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DexterFTheGateKeeper: well, look thru /dev/disk/by-id for something that appears to be that stick, then mount as usual (man mount)04:55
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DaSkreechardchoille: no it wont04:56
llutzTheGateKeeper: use pmount as user, not mount05:00
ardchoilleDaSkreech: Ok, I must be wrong then05:00
rowenthedarkIs there a way to install software as the specific user as opposed to globally?05:00
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fdovingrowenthedark: not really, no.05:00
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fdovingrowenthedark: nothing supported, anyway.05:00
DaSkreechCorey8067: You can't upgrade with the Live CD. You need the alternate CD05:00
TheGateKeeperllutz: using a using hub would that mess things up?05:00
payamAnygirls here?05:00
payamAnygirl wana chatt here?05:00
llutzTheGateKeeper: makes no difference, i think05:00
rowenthedarkOh well. Is there a way to autoload beryl at KDE startup?05:00
payamI give you cam05:00
rowenthedarkpayam: I think you are in the wrong channel.05:00
TheGateKeeperllutz: DexterF http://pastebin.ca/56429705:00
llutzTheGateKeeper: seems your pendrive isn't recognized at all05:01
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llutzTheGateKeeper: open a console and type "sudo tail -f /var/log/messages", after that plug/unplug the stick and watch the logfiles output.05:02
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Jucatosudo not needed (afaik)05:04
llutzJucato: you're right, sry05:04
Jucatollutz: it's ok05:05
DaSkreechpayam: please stay on topic05:05
Jucato!offtopic | payam05:05
ubotupayam: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:05
DaSkreech!coc | payam05:05
ubotupayam: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/05:05
TheGateKeeperllutz: http://pastebin.ca/564301  these are the additional entries05:05
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payamIm ban there05:05
llutzTheGateKeeper: plug the stick in and do "sudo fdisk -l"05:05
fdovingllutz: /var/log/messages isn't used for those in ubuntu, /var/log/syslog is used for everything.05:06
fdoving.. or more than messages, anyway, not everything.05:06
TheGateKeeperllutz: all I get with sudo fdisk -l are my hard disk partitions05:06
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ubuntuhow to restore linux05:06
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fdovingubuntu, did you reinstall windows?05:07
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llutzTheGateKeeper: does "lsusb" list the stick?05:07
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ubuntui will loose all my data05:07
ubuntui'm using the live cd now05:07
payamTuff situation05:07
payamBoot CD05:07
DaSkreechubuntu: How did you lose linux?05:08
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ubuntuit crashed because the incorect configuration of display drivers05:08
llutzfdoving: messages is fine for this05:08
rowenthedarkHello again: Is there a way to autoload beryl when KDE starts? If so how?05:08
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DaSkreechubuntu: Ah. You need your old xorg.conf05:08
fdovingllutz: not here.05:08
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:08
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ubuntuDaSkreech: where i can find it?05:09
TheGateKeeperllutz: no exactly but it does see my hub: http://pastebin.ca/564307  may be I should remove the hub & plug it in directly?05:09
DaSkreechubuntu: can you mount your hard drive?05:09
llutzTheGateKeeper: try it, maybe it's the hub causing the trouble (kick it!)05:09
medkarimHi everybody !05:09
payammedkarim, asalamo aleikom Karim05:09
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ubuntuDaSkreech: how to find out?05:10
azzcoubuntu you can allways do a "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" if you're able to get to a console on your normal installation05:10
medkarimTu es d'ou ?05:10
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payammedkarim, do you want something :)05:11
mickkaffeine plays my dvd's but stops & starts. OK in Ubuntu but not Kubuntu05:11
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TheGateKeeperllutz: that's done the trick :-) bit pants I can't use my usb hub :-(05:11
medkarimJ'ai un probleme avec ma carte son , je suis sous Kubuntu feisty05:11
llutzTheGateKeeper: it's a passive hub, without own power-supply?05:11
bonbonthejonubuntu: run fdisk -l to list the drives, then do mount /somthing /somewhere05:12
ubuntucan i restore my old xconf05:12
DexterFTheGateKeeper: there's a hub?05:12
bonbonthejonubuntu: maybe, or recreate it05:12
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bonbonthejonlook up at azzco05:12
TheGateKeeperDexterF: no it has it's own power supply05:13
DexterFTheGateKeeper: the kernel in 7.04 has an experimental usb option for reasons beyond me which f!cks up some usb hubs05:13
bonbonthejon!fr | medkarim05:13
ubotumedkarim: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:13
DexterFtry   dmesg | grep bad  and see if there's something about cables05:13
TheGateKeeperllutz: : no it has it's own power supply05:13
medkarimNo french help here ?05:13
TheGateKeeperDexterF: I am using 6.0605:13
ubuntu!ro | ubuntu05:13
llutzTheGateKeeper: strange, never had trouble with those...05:13
medkarimah , ok05:14
DexterFumm. well, try without the hub nevertheless, if possible05:14
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llutzTheGateKeeper: anyway, go buy a new one :)05:14
hasanhi guys05:14
hasani need help05:14
hasanas everybody here05:14
TheGateKeeperDexterF: llutz oh well at least I have got access to it thanks05:14
azzcoJust tell the question05:14
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:14
DaSkreechubuntu: you can't get to a prompt on your computer at all?05:14
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hasani try to connect my brand new mpx220 with kubuntu05:14
hasanbut whihout success05:14
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hasanive install raki and synce05:15
DexterFTheGateKeeper: does it work now?05:15
TheGateKeeperllutz: windows reckonises it (ducks for incoming... :-) )05:15
hasanbut it doesnot recognize my mobilephone05:15
hasanany idea05:15
llutzTheGateKeeper: then use windows05:15
hasananyone who uses smartphone with kubuntu?05:15
hasanany idea is welcome05:15
payamI wana learn a little about Glade, anyone who knows a good website? I have googled it! I have found a good side , do please show me05:15
bonbonthejonhasan: i never got my ipaq to work with linux, but my palms work fine05:16
hasanthought ive googled i cant find usefull things05:16
TheGateKeeperDexterF: it's ok if I take the usb hub out & plug the pen drive directly in05:16
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payamedit: ia have not05:16
limalehello to every body05:16
DexterFllutz: usually I'm with you on that type of remark but not here, USB_SUSPEND in 7.04 is experimental and doesn't belong in a stable release. yes I know, he doesn't have 7.04, but still I wouldn't rule out a similar thing here.05:16
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TheGateKeeperllutz: I don't have windows on this hdd, & I need a file of it, anyway directly plugging in gets me to where I need to be :/05:16
ubuntuid like to thank all of you for your help .........nothing explaind .....05:16
azzcoIs there somwhere to go for samba help?05:17
limalewhat packet i must install to have correct visualization of battery on my laptop ???05:17
TheGateKeeperllutz: DexterF cheers guys05:17
DaSkreechubuntu: I'm asking you questions05:17
DexterFgot a hub myself that works fine on Slackware, XP, even on the Kub live DVD but not on the installed version05:17
DaSkreechubuntu: You haven't answered any05:17
payamUbuntu, What was your problem PLZ05:17
DaSkreechhasan: try http://www.google.com/linux05:17
limaleguidance-power-manager don't work correctly !05:17
DexterFTheGateKeeper: yw. I guess I'll inquire the developers about that kind of usb issue, happened here, too05:18
ubuntukan i reconfigure the xorg to  make my ubuntu workingf05:18
TheGateKeeperI will go & see what pclinuxos makes of it05:18
payamUbuntu, Whats you language?05:18
TheGateKeeperDexterF: that would be good05:18
payamubuntu, say you problem again from bigining05:18
azzcoubuntu yes! just reboot into your normal ubuntu then ctrl+ alt + F1 log in then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"05:19
limaleare there someone that can help me with control of battery on my laptop ?05:19
ubuntumy ubuntu crashedbecause the nvidia drivers05:19
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payamokej! keep on05:19
azzcoubuntu Just do what I told you ;)05:19
crdlbubuntu, add -phigh to the command that azzco gave you05:19
limaleazzco: is for me ?05:19
rowenthedarklimale: isnt there a panel option for monitoring the battery?05:19
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crdlbubuntu, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg05:20
DexterFdoes the live system create a swap file on found win partitions?05:20
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azzcolimale: I was speaking to ubuntu but if it helps you then yes05:20
medkarimHe everybody05:20
limaleazzco: your response is for me ?05:20
azzconot initally05:21
payamlimale, could you explain for me Ubuntus problem?05:21
crdlblimale, that won't help you05:21
medkarimI have a problem with my sound card , i'm running Kubuntu feisty05:21
DaSkreechubuntu: can you mount the hard drive ?05:21
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payammed Karim, Have you active your sound card on Bios?05:22
DaSkreechcrdlb, azzco: going to have to help him mount the drive to get onto his system05:22
medkarimYes , of course05:22
payamAre you sure?05:22
payamLook at it05:22
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payamDo you hear something?05:22
medkarimYes , i hear sound but very Low05:22
medkarimVolume is at 100%05:23
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payamhave you right click on Sound icon and seen what s going on there?05:23
azzcomedkarim: is that in kmix?05:23
medkarimYes , Kmix05:23
medkarimpayam : Yes I have already do that05:24
payammedKarin, mmm05:24
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payamHave you seen you microfone?05:25
payamD o they workd correctly?05:25
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payamwhat the cabel05:25
medkarimNo , I dont have05:25
payamno no05:25
medkarimThis is my "pc-portable"05:26
payami dont mean that05:26
pixelbreihi... anyone tried to install mayavi in feisty? i'm getting python-related errors, seems like mayavi wants python 2.4 where 2.5 is installed05:26
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payammedkarim, what s your laguage?05:26
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payamaha , okej05:27
medkarimIn fact , i speak Arabic05:27
medkarimbut also05:27
medkarimfrench and english !05:27
payamYou can ask your question there, My english is so bad05:27
medkarimThanks , but i have no solution there05:27
medkarimNo , You speak very good ;)05:28
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payammedKarim, waite05:28
payamI wana ask somone els05:28
payamMedkarim do you use Asla derive?05:29
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payamwirte " alsamixer" on a terminal05:30
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medkarimI have a screen with equalizer (terminal )05:31
medkarimBut master volume is 0%05:31
payamcould you high the volume?05:32
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payamwith your soud icon to right?05:32
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medkarimNo , there is no Bar for Master volume05:33
medkarimOnly PCM , and Mic05:33
payammedKarim, no no, what do you do to high your volume normaly05:33
payamyou click on sound icon to right , there down right?05:33
medkarimWith Kmix05:33
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payammedkarim, go on the terminal05:34
payamclick on windows and select Master and highit with the Pil on your keybord05:34
sivajihendaus : hi05:34
payamDo you undrstand?05:34
medkarimNo all05:35
medkarimclick on terminal ?05:35
payamnew terminal05:35
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payamwrite " alsamixer"05:35
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frojnddoes anyone know where I could get some skydome images for beryl?05:36
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medkarimAnd then ?05:36
sivajifrojnd #beryl05:36
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payamand click on up pil05:36
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payamon your keybord05:36
payamand high the volume05:37
medkarimI have PCM , a05:37
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medkarimPCM at 100% , and Mic at 100%05:37
payamyou can select othersection05:37
medkarimno :(05:37
payamI see Master-Master IV, headphone05:38
payam3D control05:38
payamI mean them05:38
medkarimsend you screen ?05:38
sivajimedkarim open kmix and check  the buttons05:38
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payamsicaji, you can help him, i must go05:39
darkrift__how do i start the adept update checker (not the package manager)05:39
medkarimVolume is 100% for all channels05:39
darkrift__mine somehow closed (the tray icon)05:39
payammedkarim, when you open a terminal and wirted  you can control your volume whith left , right, up, down arrow05:39
darkrift__and i wanna check for updates05:39
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medkarimI know , but I hear low sound05:40
sivajidarkrift__ "sudo apt-get update"05:40
darkrift__no, the gui version05:40
sivajidarkrift__ use adept05:40
darkrift__the adept updater that sits in your tray telling you yo have x updates available05:41
darkrift__i tried adept manager, thats for installing packages05:41
darkrift__doesnt show me upgradeable ones05:41
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limale2 :-)05:41
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medkarimHow much channel , you can adjust ?05:41
medkarimBy keyboard05:42
limale2i have some problem with battery management of my notebook on kubuntu 7.0405:42
sivajidarkrift__ adept will show u click fetch update later will see upgradable package05:42
limale2in particular my kde-guidance-power-manager don't work correctly05:42
limale2some one can help me ?05:42
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sivajidarkrift__ u will have options their like show only installed ,show only upgradable05:43
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sivajimedkarim try #ubuntu05:44
sivajilimale2 try #ubuntu05:44
darkrift__i c05:44
limale2but I have kubuntu !05:45
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lucio_qualcuno puo aiutarmi?05:50
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Jucato!it | lucio_05:51
ubotulucio_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:51
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lucio_grazie a te..05:52
limale2what are the package necessary to manage the battery in notebook using kubuntu ?05:53
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SesshyHey, is there anybody here that can help me? I'm having boot problems with a fresh install of Kubuntu.05:56
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SesshyHello? Is anybody there?05:56
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limale2but, nobody answer05:57
Sesshycould you possibly help me troubleshoot my boot issues, limale2? or are you looking for support as well?05:57
limale2I don't find any help!05:57
limale2I find support for battery management05:57
limale2but I fon't find nobody that can help me05:58
DexterFSesshy: just describe the problem05:58
jacquesDoes someone installed realplayer on gutsy?05:58
SesshyWell, on a completely fresh install of Kubuntu, single boot, GRUB gives me a completely blank screen on normal bootup05:58
DexterFi'd ask about gutsy un #ubuntu+105:58
DexterFSesshy: ok: what video card?05:58
limale2are there someone that have installed package for power (battery) management ?05:59
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DexterFlimale2: how does it not work properly?05:59
Sesshywhen pressing esc and booting with recovery mode, it logs in as root with just the console interface, and then I can type "exit", which makes it load KDE normally and everything works fine05:59
limale2I can't view the level of my battery05:59
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Sesshy640 meg version, that is06:00
DexterFSesshy: and: is grub itself not showing the boot menu, or do you mean boot messages once you selected a kernel? can you log in, does kdm come up?06:00
soulrider_Sesshy: maybe you need to pass some parameters to the kernel? =/06:00
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Sesshyyes, if I run GRUB in recovery mode and exit root when it gets to the terminal under recovery mode, it loads KDE normally06:00
Sesshybut normal boot gives me a black screen and nothing more06:00
Sesshyeven though num locks works06:00
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DexterFSesshy: and if you just let it boot the default image, all is black and you never get a login screen?06:01
Sesshyit was the same with ubuntu, as well06:01
jacquesi can not run realplayer and skype on gutsy06:01
SesshyI've tried both06:01
Sesshyboth latest downloads of the live DVD06:01
soulriderSesshy: remove the splash and quiet options and boot and see if yopu get any errors06:01
limale2DexterF: I can't view the level of my battery and when I plug-off the ac_adaptor, the software don't change automatically the battery icon !!06:01
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soulriderjacques: for gutsy go to #ubuntu+106:01
soulriderjacques: why are you using gutsy anyways, its not even beta06:02
Sesshysoulrider: how do I remove those options? I have next to zero experience with linux and console commands06:02
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SesshyI can follow directions, but I need to know what to type06:02
soulriderSesshy: when youre selecting the option to boor, press e to edit, just remove those options and press bt o boot06:02
DexterFhmmm.... looks like the console blocks X or sumsuch. Sesshy, boot to console, and with sudo edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and in the line for the default kernel change "splash quiet" to vga=792, see if that helps06:02
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Sesshyokay, lemme try that, sounds good06:02
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soulriderDexterF: its better if he doesnt make the changes permanent06:03
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DexterFsoulrider: if that permanently fixes it, it would be my choice. edit the line from grub *each time* sounds liek a hassle to me at least.06:04
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soulriderDexterF: if that works then make the changed permanent06:04
racconPoprtugal is the best06:04
soulrider!pt | raccon06:04
uboturaccon: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.06:04
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Sesshyokay, I removed quiet, but there was no splash option that was visible06:05
DexterFsoulrider: ah, see your point. well, I'm pretty sure this doesn't at least make it worse, hence I omitted testing from grub editing.06:05
Sesshynow I just get a flashing underscore in the upper right hand corner instead of a black screen06:05
DexterFSesshy: are you in the system right now?06:05
DexterFcan you paste the menu.lst on a pastebin? without passwords, if there are any of course06:06
Sesshyalso, there seems to be two kernel versions to boot from here06:06
Sesshy2.6.20-16 and -1506:06
soulriderSesshy: choose any06:06
SesshyI did run updates when I had KDE running previously06:06
soulrider-16 is newer06:06
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DexterFis there a kaffeine-0.8.4 package for feisty?06:06
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soulrider!info kaffeine06:07
ubotukaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 2186 kB, installed size 6044 kB06:07
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coreymon77not on the regular repos06:07
coreymon77but you may be able to find a repo for it on the kaffeine site06:07
DexterFsoulrider: I know, that's what I have, hence I ask. I'm a little new to kubuntu and don't know all the hotshot 3rd party repositories yet06:08
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Sesshyokay, I removed the splash and quiet options from the end of the first line of the -16 boot option06:08
DexterFgoogle didnt bring up anything. well, ok, if all else fails UTSL :)06:08
Sesshyand it loaded fine06:08
soulriderDexterF: i never really used 3rd party repos in ubuntu06:08
Sesshybut I suspect that was only a temporary change?06:08
soulriderSesshy: yes06:08
DexterFSesshy: if you edited like I said: yes. if you did it from the grub "e" command: no06:09
soulridernow you gotta edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and make the changed permanent06:09
DexterFsoulrider: i like bleeding edge ;)06:09
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Sesshysoulrider/DexterF: okay, yes, I used the grub e command. How do I permanently edit the boot file?06:09
coreymon77DexterF: doesnt seem bleeding edge to me06:09
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coreymon77DexterF: 0.8.4 is stable06:09
SesshyI'm at the Konsole in KDE06:10
DexterFSesshy: boot, grab your fav. editor and sudo <editor> /boot/grub/menu.lst06:10
DexterFvi, mcedit, whatever you favor06:10
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soulriderSesshy: i suggets you use nano06:10
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DexterFcoreymon77: I used .4 on Slackware, know its stable, still it's the latest versionm that's kinda bleeding edge to me06:10
DexterFnano's cool, too06:11
Sesshyby the way, what is the default root password? I noticed that I wasn't prompted for one during the Kubuntu setup06:11
Sesshyand I also can't seem to use su06:11
WebAppMonkeyIn under an hour I switched from OpenSuSe to Kubuntu and have everything back to the way it was. Linux has come a long way, and it rocks! :)06:11
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llutzSesshy: theres no root-account, use sudo06:11
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llutzSesshy: that's ubuntus special philosophy....06:12
WebAppMonkeyllutz: Do you know the reasoning behind that?06:12
Sesshyllutz: interesting, is that just the way that ubuntu's set up?06:12
Sesshyyeah, I was wondering the same as WebAppMonkey06:12
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llutzWebAppMonkey: they wanted to improve system-security ....06:12
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WebAppMonkeyllutz: And how does removing the root account and instead giving users full-access through sudo help?06:13
llutzWebAppMonkey: they prevent users from working all the time as root06:13
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llutznow, users use all useless commands with sudo in front :(06:13
llutzWebAppMonkey: i don't see any improvement in this06:13
DexterFSesshy: sudo bash gives you a root shell06:14
llutzsudo su too06:14
llutzsudo password creates a root-account06:14
DexterFcan i still sudo like before?06:14
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WebAppMonkeyIt seems far less secure than a normal root/user seperation though... by using the same password etc...06:15
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llutzWebAppMonkey: that's what i think too06:15
DexterFme, too06:15
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Sesshyokay, well, I edited the menu.lst file even though kate gave me a bunch of errors in the console before actually opening it, I suppose it doesn't matter06:16
llutzbut anyway, they decided to this, so we have to use it or not06:16
Sesshygonna reboot06:16
tom_anyone know how i can use opengl over vnc?06:16
WebAppMonkeysudo su06:16
WebAppMonkeywill let you change the root password to a known value06:16
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WebAppMonkeyAnd removing a user from the admin group will remove sudo privs06:16
DexterFtom_: haha. forget it.06:17
DexterFtom_: I'd rather ssh -X and forward the entire gl app06:17
coreymon77DexterF: it should be in the repos06:17
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tom_has no1 tried virtualgl?06:17
Sesshysweet, removing the splash and quiet parameters worked, boots just fine now06:17
Sesshythanks a lot, guys06:17
llutzWebAppMonkey: but kdesu/gksu are also linked to sudo, not to su. so you might run in trouble when remove your user from admin-grp06:17
DexterFtom_: never hear about that one06:18
Sesshyso according to google, it sounds like the splash screen is a known issue with ubuntu06:18
Sesshyis that the case?06:18
tom_DexterF: kk06:18
WebAppMonkeyllutz: Yuck06:18
fdovingllutz: you can configure kdesu to use su.06:18
Sesshyyou guys seemed to know exactly what I needed to do06:18
llutzfdoving: really? never checked that. tnx06:18
fdovingllutz: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FrodeDoeving/Tips06:18
DexterFSesshy: got sth similar, no text during splash, but login comes up. guess  ill file a bug06:18
fdovingllutz: tip 5.06:18
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llutzfdoving: too easy :)06:19
Sesshywhat does the quiet parameter do, by the way? I'm guessing the splash is equivalent to the XP loading screen06:19
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WebAppMonkeyI am having problems running a 32-bit GLU app (defcon) on my 64-bit system. I can't find a GLU-compat in the default repos, is there a special compat repo I have to add?06:19
coreymon77Sesshy: youre new to linux arent you06:19
Sesshycoreymon77: absolutely, I have basically zero experience06:20
DexterFI'm not and I don't know eiither06:20
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SesshyI really don't know anything yet06:20
DexterFI just never had fancy eye candy06:20
fdovingSesshy: quiet outputs less messages, when booting.06:20
coreymon77Sesshy: first tip of linux06:20
coreymon77Sesshy: dont make comparissons to windoze06:20
DexterFwho would want *less* messages about the boot process?06:20
BlueDevilwhere can i find the tutorial for compiling the kernel?06:20
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fdovingDexterF: most people with a working system? :)06:21
Sesshycoreymon77: yes, I understand that it's completely different, I merely have nothing else with which to reference in my own mind XD06:21
WebAppMonkeyBlueDevil: make menuconfig, make, make modules, make modules_install, make install06:21
alexander__yo anyone here?06:21
WebAppMonkeyBlueDevil: Just make sure your root filesystem is compiled INTO the kernel, NOT as a module.06:21
BlueDevilWebAppMonkey: nah, i need the proper stuff which creates packages06:21
DexterFfdoving: the way kubuntu makes bold moves towards bleeding edge even in the kernel, "less messages" sounds like a bad idea to me06:21
llutzWebAppMonkey: no "make install", build a package06:21
[nk] make-kpkg kernel_image06:22
[nk] !06:22
Sesshyfdoving: I have to agree with DexterF, I always disable my bios splash screens and the like06:22
BlueDevilWebAppMonkey: i will keep the existing config, just add himem support06:22
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WebAppMonkeyBah, you package-mangement people....06:22
WebAppMonkeyYou're all weird06:22
BlueDevilWebAppMonkey: i can't believe nowadays a kernel is shipped without himem/PAE enabled06:22
fdovingDexterF: ok. you're free to have that opinion :)06:22
limale2I have some problem with the level battery indicator of my Kde in kubuntu 7.04: the level battery indicator, indicate always the AC-Adaptor, also when I use the battery !! Are there someone can help me with this problem ?? Thanks06:22
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[nk] :)06:22
BlueDevilWebAppMonkey: how do i generate the initrd image?06:23
[nk] make-kpkg is a good way of keeping apt happy06:23
WebAppMonkeyBlueDevil: I'm fresh from slackware, nowadays the kernel is still 2.2 ;)06:23
BlueDevilcool :)06:23
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llutzhehe, my last slack was 2.2 :)06:23
BlueDevilleft slack behind in '98 :)06:23
[nk] BlueDevil: 'make-kpkg kernel_image' will build a .deb that you can dpkg -i06:24
DexterFWebAppMonkey: liar :) pat packs 2.6 by default in -current06:24
WebAppMonkeyOh wait, it's 2.4.. sorry :)06:24
WebAppMonkeyDexterF: Ohhh, when did that happen?06:24
[nk] bluedevil: the initrd and everything will be built automagically06:24
SesshySo, all you experienced linux users, I've been meaning to ask one of you ever since I started getting all confused with the guides that have you do all of the console operations06:24
Sesshywhere's a good place to start learning to be an advanced user?06:24
BlueDevil[nk] : do i need to dpkg -i the initrd or will it be placed in /boot automatically?06:25
SesshyI'm not an idiot, and I learn fast; I just need to know the best way to get experience06:25
coreymon77Sesshy: use your system06:25
DexterFWebAppMonkey: after the big pause after 11.0, when he fumbled the all-2.6.-headers in and threw out some old cruft06:25
coreymon77Sesshy: thats how06:25
alexander__PEOPLE i think this is no help channel but i have a question about printers... is there any possibility to get the printer LEXMARK P6350 working on Kubuntu/Ubuntu?????06:25
WebAppMonkeySesshy: My suggestion would be to start playing around with a terminal06:25
DexterFfew weeks ago06:25
alexander__PEOPLE i think this is no help channel but i have a question about printers... is there any possibility to get the printer LEXMARK P6350 working on Kubuntu/Ubuntu?????06:25
coreymon77Sesshy: the best way to learn is to just use linux06:25
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[nk] BlueDevil: it all gets cp'd over to /boot06:25
DexterFalexander__: this *is* a help chan but try linuxprinting.org, they have a database06:25
coreymon77alexander__: probably06:25
coreymon77alexander__: and watch your atitude06:25
alexander__no they don't06:25
Sesshycoreymon77: that makes sense, but how do you learn all of the console commands? is there a big list of them somewhere that you can memorize or reference?06:25
WebAppMonkeyDexterF: Crazy, I thought he would never call 2.6 stable06:25
coreymon77alexander__: if you ever want to get help, be a little nicer06:25
limale2I have some problem with the level battery indicator of my Kde in kubuntu 7.04: the level battery indicator, indicate always the AC-Adaptor, also when I use the battery !! Are there someone can help me with this problem ?? Thanks06:26
coreymon77Sesshy: do them one at a time06:26
coreymon77Sesshy: first one to learn is apt06:26
WebAppMonkeySesshy: type in a few letters and hit [tab] [tab]  It'll give you a list of commands there06:26
alexander__it was not my intention to be rough but my english isn't really good06:26
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Sesshycoreymon77: okay, that sounds good, thanks! ^^06:26
DexterFWebAppMonkey: "stable" wasn't *that* much of an issue lately but rather teh headers, going all 2.6 headers breaks some old stuff. most distros have heavily patched/merged headers06:26
[nk] BlueDevil: /etc/kernel-*.conf has neat stuff in it06:26
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alexander__and... no they don't have any drivers06:27
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BlueDevil[nk] : there a tutorial that says to do "AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs" what's that all about?06:27
coreymon77alexander__: ill give it a try06:27
Sesshycoreymon77: ooh, hitting tab twice after entering a command gives you a list of different syntaxes, huh? o.o06:27
coreymon77alexander__: whats the printer?06:27
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WebAppMonkeyOh, I still have a problem with getting some GLU 32-bit compat libraries... Any suggested repositories?06:27
alexander__LEXMARK P635006:27
coreymon77Sesshy: yes, tab completion, very useful to learn06:27
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DexterFalexander__: they so totally have a database06:27
alexander__no it is the P625006:28
[nk] BlueDevil: hm, another way of building the debs, I suppose.  I don't bother with fakeroot as I always build/install the kernel as root06:28
BlueDevil[nk] : will i need to rebuild the nvidia drivers for the new kernel?06:28
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[nk] BlueDevil: yep, sure will06:29
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alexander__i searched some days ago... they had no infos about the printer06:29
JabapythWhere (on my computer) is the list of things that get executed every time I log in?06:29
llutzalexander__: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-P635006:29
DexterFJabapyth: /etc/init.d06:29
DexterFJabapyth: oh wait, my fault06:30
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Sesshycoreymon77: so I hit tab twice in a blank field and I get a confirmation for a list of 1818 possible commands. Is that an exhaustive list of all possible console commands?06:30
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coreymon77Sesshy: dont try to learn them all06:30
coreymon77Sesshy: take it slow06:30
limale2I have some problem with the level battery indicator of my Kde in kubuntu 7.04: the level battery indicator, indicate always the AC-Adaptor, also when I use the battery !! Are there someone can help me with this problem ?? Thanks06:30
JabapythDexterF: what?06:30
DexterFJabapyth: got you wrong, confused boot time / login.06:30
Sesshycoreymon7: Of course not, I was just curious o.o06:30
coreymon77Sesshy: heres something you gotta learn about linux06:30
DexterFJabapyth: what do you mean, like autostart apps or rather settings?06:30
JabapythDexterF: autostart apps06:30
alexander__but theres no driver ... nor any help06:31
coreymon77Sesshy: you are used to windows, and in windows, it doesnt let you do anyting that will muck up your system06:31
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WebAppMonkeySesshy: Yeah, that'll list all available commands -- Also, typing in a few letters of a command and hitting tab once will finish typing the command if you have a unique start... ie, lspcm[tab] 06:31
alexander__shall I post a topic?06:31
llutzalexander__: ask lexmark for a driver06:31
DexterFJabapyth: /home/<username>/.kde/Autostart. you can drag apps from the menu into konqueror there and select "link"06:31
coreymon77Sesshy: the thing with linux is, especially with the terminal, that sure you have way more control, but you also have the control to fark up your system royally06:31
JabapythDexterF: thanks!06:31
llutzalexander__: http://www.lexmark.com/lexmark/sequentialem/home/0,6959,204816596_659668505_0_en,00.html06:31
[nk] BlueDevil: if you want the kernel-headers installed as a package, too, you could just run 'make-kpkg binary-arch' which will build kernel_image and kernel_headers06:31
fdovingJabapyth: by default there is also a "restore previous session" feature enabled. that means, all apps left running when you logged out, are restarted.06:32
DexterFa'ight, afk06:32
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SesshyWebAppMonkey: Ah, I see, invaluable tip, thanks ^^06:32
alexander__i sent a mail two days ago ... they didn't answer...06:32
WebAppMonkeySesshy: for instance, anything involving the command `rm` remove, and /* (from root, everything) is very baddd06:32
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SesshyWebAppMonkey: Well, yes, I do know that I'm not supposed to stay logged in as root due to the risk of damaging important system files, hence the sudo and su commands, right?06:33
coreymon77Sesshy: yes, in linux you can do anything06:33
coreymon77Sesshy: so never go playing around in terminal windows06:33
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coreymon77Sesshy: do things graphically at first06:34
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coreymon77and slowly start to learn other things06:34
coreymon77Sesshy: the nist important command for you to learn first is how to use apt06:34
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Sesshycoreymon77: what kind of tasks is apt used for?06:35
coreymon77apt is for installing stuff06:35
Sesshyit looks like it's for managing packages or something06:35
coreymon77and for upgrading06:35
alexander__http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:495:0:0   ... no linux support06:35
coreymon77alexander__: im sorry, its not possible at the moment06:35
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)06:36
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coreymon77if you ever want to install something, apt is the best and eaist way to dfo it06:36
alexander__isn't there something like an universal driver?06:37
coreymon77Sesshy: not everything is on apt, but most are06:37
Sesshycoreymon77: but should I prefer a command interface over a graphical one for installing packages?06:37
coreymon77alexander__: nope06:37
alexander__i heard something similar before...06:37
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto06:37
llutzalexander__: universal drivers need standarized hardware lexmark isn't06:37
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coreymon77Sesshy: nope, its all personal preference06:37
alexander__thank you...06:37
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Sesshydoes the graphical interface not display all of the packages that are accessible through apt?06:37
coreymon77Sesshy: it makes no difference whether you do it command line or graphical, its all what you feel comfortable with06:37
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Sesshyah, I see06:38
coreymon77Sesshy: no, graphicxal methods are the exact same as command line06:38
alexander__shall I post news about the printer... I think, shall I post the email reply in ubuntuforums or anywhere else???06:38
alexander__If I get one06:38
coreymon77Sesshy: it makes no difference06:38
Sesshycoreymon77 or ubotu: how do you recommend I go about installing the drivers for my 8800GTS?06:38
coreymon77ubotu is a bot06:39
ubotuYes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.06:39
Sesshyah, I see XD06:39
SesshyI don't feel very smart today :306:39
coreymon77Sesshy: what do you want to install?06:39
SesshynVidia drivers for my 8800GTS06:39
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jason10on the subject of package guis ..  i heard that using both synaptic and adept can cause problems, and that i should stick to just one or the other, is that true?06:40
coreymon77Sesshy: you are using feisty right?06:40
Sesshycoreymon77: I had done all of that with Fedora 7 using a guide that described exactly what package servers/etc. to access via console commands06:40
Sesshybut I'm sure that it's totally different with Ubuntu because it's a different package system06:40
BlueDevil[nk] : i don't suppose there's an already built kernel with HIGHMEM support besides the bigiron kernels06:40
Sesshyand yes, I'm on Feisty06:40
coreymon77Sesshy: there is probably an easier way06:41
[nk] BlueDevil: no idea :)06:41
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BlueDevil[nk] : where can i express my frustation? :)06:41
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Fablehey guys. i have a question about beryl. when i start it the 3D effect where i should see a cube, i see a decagon. please help06:41
fdovingBlueDevil: are you on feisty?06:41
[nk] bahaha06:41
BlueDevilfdoving: yes06:41
fdovingBlueDevil: how much mem?06:41
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BlueDevilit's pretty dumb that in this day and age a kernel gets shipped without HIGHMEM support06:42
BlueDevili wonder what was the reasoning behind that :-/06:42
fdovingBlueDevil: well, they are not. they support 4GB out of the box. 'grep HIGHMEM /boot/config-2.6.20-16-generic' to check.06:42
Fablecan someone help me please.06:43
llutzBlueDevil:  CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y , CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y06:43
fdovingFable: #ubuntu-effects might be more helpfull for beryl issues. they are experts.06:43
SesshyHm, now Adept says that I have the "nvidia-kernel-common" package installed, but to be quite honest I'm not sure if that means I have working drivers06:43
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Fableok thanks06:43
BlueDevilfdoving & llutz : indeed06:44
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SesshyI mean, I still have choppy/sluggish interface performance characteristic of that without drivers06:44
coreymon77Sesshy: the GeForce 8800 GTS right?06:44
Sesshyso I think I need to get them somehow..06:44
BlueDevilthen why would it "see" only 2G on my box?06:44
Sesshycoreymon77: Yes, that's it, the 640 meg version06:44
BlueDevilfdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25399/ that's what it outputs on my box06:45
llutzBlueDevil: and what are you missing?06:45
BlueDevilllutz: what do you mean?06:46
llutzBlueDevil: " Warning only 4GB will be used."  <- so what?06:46
BlueDevilin /proc/meminfo i get this: MemTotal:      2059300 kB06:46
BlueDevilif i boot a bigiron kernel it "sees" all 4GB06:47
Sesshycoreymon77: should I install the "nvidia-glx" package? Its description says "XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver", but I'm running x86-64, so shouldn't there be a 64-bit version of the driver for me?06:47
coreymon77Sesshy: we will see06:47
BlueDevilfwiw, i'm on a core2duo e6600 with an asus p5b-deluxe mobo06:47
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BlueDevili don't suppose a bios update will help...06:48
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coreymon77Sesshy: first type this06:49
coreymon77sudo apt-get update06:49
coreymon77into a terminal06:49
brendan_hi, whenver i run amarok, or kaffiene they just lock up06:49
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Sesshyhm, "unable to lock the administration directory"06:50
Sesshyoh, wait06:50
coreymon77did you use sudo?06:50
Sesshythat could be because I had Adept open06:50
coreymon77no worrys06:50
BlueDevilyou've given up hope on me :((06:50
brendan_arts is working because i get all the normal system sounds, and flash playes audio06:50
coreymon77you can use adept if you want06:50
Sesshythere we go06:50
coreymon77sudo apt-get udpate06:50
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Sesshyyep, looks like that worked06:51
Sesshywhat next?06:51
coreymon77sudo apt-get install restricted-manager06:51
BluesKajbrendan_, sudo apt-get install xine06:52
fdovingBlueDevil: you don't miss out much memory, you can of course recompile the kernel with 64G support, but i would never bother.06:52
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Sesshycoreymon77: okay, cool, that's downloading/unpacking06:53
BlueDevilfdoving: i miss half my memory (2G)06:53
fdovingBlueDevil: so you have 8G  memory?06:53
brendan_BluesKaj: it says there is no installation candidate06:53
Sesshywhat does the restricted-manager parameter mean, by the way? sorry, I'm just one of those people that does things much better if I know what's happening and why XD06:53
BlueDevilfdoving: no, i have 4G, but it only sees 2G06:53
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coreymon77Sesshy: thats the package name06:54
BlueDevilfdoving: in /proc/meminfo i get this: MemTotal:      2059300 kB06:54
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SesshyBlueDevil: if you're running 32-bit, chances are you won't see all of your RAM06:54
coreymon77Sesshy: apt downloads packages from sites called repositories and then isntalls them to your system06:54
BlueDevilSesshy: i know, but i hope it'll see about 3.5GB instead of the current 2GB06:54
BlueDevilSesshy: it should see it all with PAE06:54
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:54
SesshyBlueDevil: I hear that RAM recognition using 32-bit systems is mobo-dependent or something like that. I don't personally know, though, just what I hear XD06:55
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fdovingBlueDevil: you're suffering from this: http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2005-11/msg00274.html06:55
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BluesKajbrendan look for xine in adept ..amarok-xine and kaffeine-xine06:55
SesshyBlueDevil: errr, 32-bit OSes, I meant. Even on 64-bit hardware people running 32-bit OS supposedly can't see all RAM06:55
DJServerscant you see it inKinforCenter ?06:56
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brendan_BluesKaj: amarok-xine, kaffiene-xine, libxine1 and libxine1-kde is installed06:57
coreymon77Sesshy: okay, so is that done installing06:57
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Sesshycoreymon77: yes, restricted-manager is all done06:58
coreymon77since im not too sure where that isntalled to06:58
coreymon77type sudo restricted-manager06:58
BlueDevilfdoving: reading06:59
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crdlbSesshy, that driver won't work on the 880006:59
BluesKajbrendan libxine-extracodecs06:59
coreymon77Sesshy: is it open?06:59
fdovingBlueDevil: basically it says your bios is responsible for this, and you need a 64G highmem enabled kernel to be able to address all your memory, because the bios makes "holes" like that.06:59
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Sesshycoreymon77: okay, that opened a GUI screen that appears to be downloading drivers06:59
coreymon77well, do you see your nvidia card in the list?07:00
Sesshycrdlb: really? is there another source from which I should get the drivers?07:00
coreymon77crdlb: this works07:00
crdlbcoreymon77, it doesn't work for the 880007:00
coreymon77crdlb: i know it as a fact07:00
crdlbno it doesn't07:00
coreymon77crdlb: yes it does07:00
crdlbdo you have an 8800?07:00
coreymon77crdlb: the 8800 is in teh lsit of cards that it works with07:00
crdlbcoreymon77, it is but it doesn't work07:00
BlueDevilfdoving: can i get my bios version from linux? i want to check if an update exists and look at the changelog07:01
crdlbread the bug I linked to07:01
coreymon77crdlb: the 8800 gls07:01
crdlbcoreymon77, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/10305007:01
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Sesshycrdlb: is there a solution at this time, or am I driverless?07:01
brendan_BluesKaj: hmm that didn't seem to help07:01
Sesshycrdlb: because I know that I had working drivers for my card under Fedora, I just used a guide that told me a special alternate way to get them07:01
crdlbSesshy, I'm not sure what the best solution is atm07:01
coreymon77Sesshy: then dont do i07:02
fdovingBlueDevil: might be possible, i don't know.07:02
coreymon77Sesshy: your fine for now07:02
crdlbSesshy, you can manually copy over the libwfb.so07:02
Sesshycrdlb: what is that file? is that a driver that's confirmed to work with the 8800?07:02
llutzBlueDevil:  sudo dmidecode |grep -i -A 6 BIOS\ Information07:02
crdlbSesshy, the driver the restricted manager installs /does/ support the 880007:02
coreymon77crdlb: all he needs is that file right?07:03
crdlbhowever when it was packaged by ubuntu, they left out that file07:03
coreymon77crdlb: cant he get it from somehwere?07:03
crdlbcoreymon77, yes07:03
BlueDevilllutz: thanks07:03
coreymon77crdlb: well then problem solved07:03
Sesshycrdlb: ah, I see, so I just need to cover up their mistake by manually editing in the file07:03
coreymon77crdlb: isntalls the driver, gets the file07:03
coreymon77crdlb: problem solved07:03
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crdlbyes that should do it07:03
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Sesshycrdlb: okay, where do I get the file, and where do I manually copy it to?07:04
DJServerslol ;P now it is hard :P07:04
coreymon77crdlb: wouldnt he have to install the driver first07:04
crdlbcoreymon77, yes07:05
Sesshycoreymon77: driver is installed, yes07:05
crdlbSesshy, try this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/98641/comments/1807:05
Sesshycrdlb: it's installed and wants me to reboot. I presume that I should copy that file before rebooting?07:05
coreymon77Sesshy: most likeley07:05
Sesshycrdlb: okay, that says i386 fix, but I'm running an x86-64 install07:06
crdlbSesshy, indeed07:06
Sesshycrdlb: is that a problem?07:06
Sesshycrdlb: crap, well, wait, was the original problem only with the i386 files? should the x86-64 drivers have all the needed resources?07:06
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crdlbSesshy, no it's just that fix is written for 38607:07
Sesshycrdlb: argh, that puts me between a rock and a hard spot x_x07:07
Sesshyor so it sounds07:07
crdlbIf you just get the 64bit version of the intaller, it should work07:07
coreymon77well, there has to be something for 64 bit07:07
BluesKajbrendan_, I would check in both amarok and kaffeine options & settings to make sure both are using the xine-engine07:08
coreymon77crdlb: where would we find the 64 bit verison07:08
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Sesshycrdlb: okay, well, I guess I would try to browse the linked nVidia resource website for the 64-bit version of that same file, but I'm not sure where to find a root directory07:09
francoishi, i have a external drive that wont automount, but when i mount it manually i dont have permission to view it, help ?07:09
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crdlbSesshy, wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run07:09
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Sesshycrdlb: awesome, thanks.07:10
BlueDevil<-- upgrading bios07:10
jacqueshow can add some langage to my locales?07:10
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coreymon77Sesshy: that will do it07:10
nosrednaekimBlueDevil: nothing to it.07:10
DJServerssomeone nows the game sa-mp? ( www.sa-mp.com ) i still dont now how to install the server :p07:11
Sesshynow, will this wget command override the driver installed by restricted-manager? there won't be any conflicts if I leave it where it is (asking me to reboot) will there?07:11
coreymon77Sesshy: wget doesnt install anything07:11
coreymon77Sesshy: it jsut downloads it07:11
coreymon77Sesshy: you have to run the file yourself07:12
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Sesshycoreymon77: yeah, I was going to follow the other command instructions on that link, but after running all of those, is that essentially replacing what the restricted-manager did?07:12
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coreymon77Sesshy: not really, its just adding that extra file probably07:12
crdlbSesshy, no07:12
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Sesshycrdlb: ah, I see, good, good07:13
crdlbSesshy, but you'll have to change the sudo cp -f line07:13
crdlbto the right path07:13
stamenhow to install the newest open office07:13
coreymon77Sesshy: what the restricted0manager did was good, it got you the driver that you needed, its just missing one file, this thing gets that file for you and puts it in the right place07:13
stamenall is in rpm's07:13
coreymon77stamen: cant you jsut apt it07:13
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stamenI dont't have the source adress for edgy07:14
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coreymon77arent they already in the repos07:14
stamencoreymon77: could you give it them to me if you have it07:14
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stamenI think07:14
coreymon77stamen: what version of openoffice is this?07:14
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stamenI want 2.2.107:15
stamenI have 2.2.007:15
stamenI have faisty07:15
coreymon77well then it isnt in the repos07:15
coreymon77is there a reason that you need this07:15
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stamenlets say yes07:16
coreymon77a .0.0,1 upgrade cant be much of a big difference07:16
Sesshycrdlb: by the way, how did you find the path for the 64 file? I also noticed that it's package 2 instead of package one, so you must have actually searched for it and not just altered the file names on a guess07:16
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crdlbSesshy, nvidia.com>download drivers>Linux>64bit archive :P07:16
erichji switched to KDE last night and i still can't believe how much nicer than Gnome it is.07:17
coreymon77Sesshy: sometimes, the place to find the dirver is where they would normally be07:17
Sesshycrdlb: ah, I see, I see :307:17
coreymon77Sesshy: nvidia supports linux07:17
DexterFwell, they provide a binary driver.07:18
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stamencoreymon77: but they have fixes07:18
DexterFbut at least one that works, unlike ati :(07:18
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BlueDevilnew bios didn't fix it...07:18
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:19
BlueDeviloff to building a new kernel...07:19
DJServerscan someone help me in stall the server from this site: http://www.sa-mp.com/download.cml07:19
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BlueDeviland nvidia drivers....07:19
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Sesshyokay, the second line of code on that post there, "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2 -x" says that sh can't open the file07:19
BluesKajDexterF, there is afix and modded patch for the ATI fglrx driver ... it's ahrd to find but if you want to check this out here's a URL : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty07:20
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coreymon77Sesshy: try openning as rot07:20
javier_Do you know if there is an easy way to set up a printer server using Samba?07:21
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DexterFBluesKaj: I'm actually happier with r300 from Xorg, but thanks anyway. I only need enough 3D juice for Google Earth and the like. fglrx does that quite well, but crashes my machine evry now and then07:21
coreymon77Sesshy: the way to open things as root is by sudo ./[filename] 07:21
BluesKajDexterF, this one does both google earth and tv video layering if needed07:22
coreymon77Sesshy: perfect time for tab completion, type the first few letters of the fiel and then press tab07:22
Sesshycoreymon77: ah, thanks for reminding me, good idea07:22
BluesKajDexterF, very stable, no probs yet with crashes07:22
DexterFmy first few days on linux I typed everything out till a friend told me about tab completion :) ah, back then...07:23
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Sesshycoreymon77: well, did the command as root, but it still says it can't open the file07:23
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francoishi, i have a external drive that wont automount, but when i mount it manually i dont have permission to view it, help ?07:23
BluesKajjavier_, have you tried the printer wizard with cups ?07:23
coreymon77Sesshy: tell me what you typed07:23
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Sesshycoreymon77: well, actually, it's as if the file isn't there07:23
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SesshyI typed "sudo sh (filename) -x"07:25
DexterFBluesKaj: GL and Xv work with r300, too. only annoyance is GL overlaps everything no matter what has focus. well, ill see to fglrx eventually07:25
Sesshyand now what I get is a syntax error, that a new line was expected07:25
coreymon77sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run07:25
coreymon77type that07:25
Sesshywell, I was just following the commands on that bug page o.o07:25
Sesshybut okay07:25
BluesKajDexterF, you won't regret it07:25
DexterFBluesKaj: oh, forgot: no composite -> no beryl07:26
Sesshycoreymon77: what's the difference between sh and ./? and what was the -x that the page instructs you to type supposed to do?07:26
coreymon77no clue07:26
coreymon77but aparently is wasnt working07:26
coreymon77this is hwo you run files07:26
Sesshywell, this is saying that the command isn't found07:26
rjune_what is the tool to enable/disable initscripts in ubuntu? most rpm distros have chkconfig, the equiv in ubuntu is..?07:27
Sesshywhen I type what you told me07:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:27
soulriderSesshy: install the drivers form the repos07:27
coreymon77Sesshy: okaty07:27
coreymon77Sesshy: heres the plan07:27
soulriderits easier and you probably wont screw anything up07:27
coreymon77Sesshy: use sh07:27
BluesKajyeah DexterF same with this one, but i can do without beryl's eyecandy , so it's not a prob for me07:27
klakettebon, je vous souhaite une bonne soire, c'est fiesta pr moi ce soir ;)07:28
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:28
Sesshysoulrider: the issue with the repos is that the packages are missing a file that I need for my card, it's apparently a verified issue, so you have to manually add the missing file07:28
coreymon77Sesshy: are you sure that it was -x at the end and not --x07:28
coreymon77lots of the times you have to use a double -07:28
DexterFhow does that bot know that guys speaks french...?07:28
soulriderwhen you chmod it its +x not -x07:28
Sesshyit could've been a typo, I guess07:28
soulrideri told it :P07:28
DexterFchmod +x would make sense, makes a file executable07:29
coreymon77Sesshy: do +x07:29
BluesKajDexterF, by the !fr link...it tells the bot to generate that script07:29
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:29
Sesshywhenever I do any of those, --x, -x, or +x, I get a syntax error saying "newline unexpected"07:30
azzcoI need help with samba, how do I add new users and how do I sett read/write permissions to all shared folders?07:30
coreymon77Sesshy: okay07:30
DexterFi thought it autoparses it, didnt see the bot call :P07:30
coreymon77Sesshy: forget the -x at the end07:30
coreymon77Sesshy: just do sudo sh07:30
Sesshyhm, same error07:30
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coreymon77Sesshy: sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run07:30
coreymon77Sesshy: that doesnt work07:30
coreymon77Sesshy: works fine for me07:30
coreymon77Sesshy: type that exact line07:31
coreymon77sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run07:31
DexterFSesshy: sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run  ?07:31
Sesshyyeah, I get the same syntax error07:31
Sesshyit's really weird07:31
coreymon77Sesshy: ummm07:31
BluesKajcopy and paste is easier07:31
DexterFsyntax error?07:31
DexterFthats weird07:31
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Sesshy"newline expected", yeah07:31
Sesshyunexpected, rather07:31
coreymon77Sesshy: oh, thats a problem with the file07:32
Sesshyshould I try downloading it again?07:32
DexterFdownload unfinished?07:32
coreymon77delete the frst on07:32
coreymon77delete the fiel first07:32
Sesshyhow do I delete it?07:32
coreymon77Sesshy: then redownload07:32
coreymon77open up konqueror07:32
BluesKaji think DexterF is right the *run file is like a binary ..requires ./07:32
coreymon77Sesshy: go to your home directory07:32
coreymon77and delete it07:32
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coreymon77Sesshy: now redownload07:33
Sesshyhm, still having the same issues07:35
Sesshyand the file's the exact same size and all07:35
coreymon77Sesshy: now copy this line and paste in into the terminal07:35
coreymon77sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run07:35
coreymon77copy and paste07:35
Sesshyoh, no wonder07:35
Sesshyit's saving it as an html document07:35
SesshyI'll try accessing the file directly from a web broswer and downloading it that way07:36
coreymon77Sesshy: no07:36
coreymon77use this command07:36
coreymon77wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run07:36
coreymon77use that command to get it07:36
Sesshyyes, that command seems to create an html document07:36
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Sesshythat's what it shows up as in konqueror07:37
coreymon77in terminal!07:37
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coreymon77thats a commandlien script!07:37
Sesshyyes, when I type that in terminal, it downloads that file07:37
Silent_Gcan someone help me please? cause im new to kubuntu07:37
Sesshyand when I browse to that file with konqueror, it's only 26kb07:37
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Sesshyand is an HTML file, konqueror says07:37
coreymon77Sesshy: dont browse the file07:37
Sesshyso it doesn't appear to be downloading the right file07:38
Sesshywell, in either case, I can't execute the file properly in console with any of the given commands07:38
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Sesshyit either cannot open the file or gives me that syntax erorr07:38
Silent_Gthe default boot that kubuntu installation create in grub doesnt boot well a bunch of colours come up and it crashed, iv booted from the Rescue and i edited settings, will it work if i configure a custome kernel and add it in grub ?07:38
coreymon77is there any type of remote assistance thing in kubuntu07:39
coreymon77is there any way that i can connect to and take control of sesshys computer in order to help07:39
llutzcoreymon77: ssh07:39
coreymon77llutz: walk the both of us through the process07:39
llutzSesshy: chmod +x NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run07:40
coreymon77llutz: because we arent getting anywhere here07:40
llutzSesshy: sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run07:40
coreymon77llutz: weve tried this07:40
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coreymon77llutz: how do we do this ssh thing?07:40
Silent_Gwill somebody answer my question please?07:41
llutzcoreymon77: Sesshy needs ssh-server installed and running07:41
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llutzSilent_G: do you pay for it?07:41
coreymon77what about the krdc or kfrb programs?07:41
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Silent_Gllutz: for what?07:41
llutzcoreymon77: never used those07:41
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llutzSilent_G: an answer07:42
Sesshyokay, there, I downloaded the pkg2.run file from the web browser, and it correctly downloaded as an 11 meg file, and is recognized as a shell script07:42
Sesshywhich is what it's supposed to be07:42
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Sesshyfor whatever reason, wget didn't download it right07:42
Sesshybut anyhow07:42
Silent_Gbut i tought this was kubuntu's help channel :S07:42
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coreymon77!attitude | Silent_G07:43
ubotuSilent_G: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:43
javier_In case any of you is interested, this is how I have shared my printer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP07:43
javier_It's easy and works great07:43
coreymon77Sesshy: im going to pm you07:43
coreymon77Sesshy: okay?07:43
Sesshyokay o.o07:43
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Tm_TSilent_G: perhaps noone currently active don't know about your problem07:44
Silent_Gok my bad07:44
Tm_TSilent_G: patience ;)07:44
coreymon77Sesshy: you can talk to me in the pm07:44
BluesKajSilent_G, try to reinstall grub in the command line  ' sudo grub '07:44
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BluesKajSilent_G, then 'find /boot/grub/stage1'07:45
Silent_GBluesKaj: what i was gonna do is, since the kenrel kubuntu created crashes, download the kernel, compile it myself, and re-edit grub config file again, and do grub-install. will it work like that?07:45
BluesKajdunno Silent_G seems rather labour intensive if you're just trying to reinstall grub :)07:46
deminemihas anyone here worked with Comedi ?07:46
Silent_Gwhat do you mean BluesKaj07:47
BluesKaja lotta work just to get grub working07:48
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Silent_Gi dont want to get grub working07:48
Silent_Gwhat i want is to use my own custom kernel not the one kubuntu created07:48
llutzSilent_G: if you just want to add an own kernel to grub, you just need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst07:48
Silent_Gah ok07:48
Silent_Gthankz llutz07:48
BluesKajok sorry ..i thought you needed to fix grub07:48
Silent_Gno i need to install my own kernel BluesKaj cause the default one doesnt load a screen with a bunch of colours comes up07:49
Silent_Geven when i tried to install kubuntu that screen came up , i hade to install in textmode07:49
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deminemiSilent_G: was the resolution bad or was it just totally unreadable colors?07:50
Silent_Gtotally unreadable colours07:50
coreymon77crdlb: major problem07:51
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BluesKajok, Silent_G ...i had a prob that i was able to fix in the /boot/grub/menu.lst and it worked ...just had to comment hidden menu ...for some reason it was hiding the grub menu07:51
BluesKajso editing the grub menu does work07:52
erichjif i edit  the grub menu.lst can i remove the grub timer so it just autoloads the default kernel?07:52
coreymon77crdlb: sesshys computer froze and had to restart07:52
coreymon77crdlb: so we need to rollback the drivers07:52
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes07:52
coreymon77crdlb: cause he cant load kde07:52
crdlbsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh07:52
crdlbjust run that07:53
crdlbchoose the "nv" driver07:53
BluesKaji think so ..you can change the default time out as well07:53
Silent_GBluesKaj: also, my chipset (Via Chrome9 K8m890) isnt supported by default so i installed kernel sources and other things from via's website, will i have to re-install the drivers and things if i create another kernel?07:53
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BluesKajdunno Silent_G ... coreymon77 ?07:54
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coreymon77BluesKaj: what?07:55
root__what to write to efficient get a full update to newest kubuntu that works with radeon 800XL Videocards ?07:55
root__this version won't boot - I had to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then startx07:56
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rowenthedarkHello I am still wondering how i can get beryl to autostart with KDE when it loads?07:58
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llutzrowenthedark: ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart07:59
BluesKajcoreymon77, Silent_G 's last question07:59
coreymon77Silent_G: maybe, maybe not08:00
coreymon77Silent_G: not sure08:00
rowenthedarkllutz: Thank you.08:00
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.08:00
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root__I need help ... My Kubuntu freeze when boot08:04
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Sesshyroot__: ah, yeah, I think you have the same problem I was having08:06
Sesshyfirst try booting into rescue mode by holding esc during the GRUB loading process08:07
root__Sesshy: yes .,... I have a saphire radeon 800XL videocard ,..... And it seems to be a very bad card08:07
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:07
root__Sesshy: I did that ... and then i wrote sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg .. and changed the videocard to vesa08:08
root__when I type StartX ... it seems to work .. And here I am .. But when I reboot ... Everything is still bad08:08
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Daisuke_Idoroot__: forgive this dumb question, but why the EFF are you here under a root account?08:10
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BluesKajroot_ , first of all , a nick change is recommended , can you find your graphics card in  kcontrol/ monitor and appearance ?08:11
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Napa-better? ;)08:11
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Napa-what is Kcontrol?08:12
BluesKajyes Napa- , much08:12
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BluesKajsorry , monitor & display08:13
Napa-in monitor and display it just says VESA08:13
BluesKajin peripherals08:13
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Napa-I'll try to change it to ATI XL .. since I have a Radeon XL800 card08:14
chanflehello all08:14
chanflehow i can update to kubuntu 7.04, on this moment i have 6.0608:14
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FSHerohello all: in Xfce, is there a way to install security updates easily? e.g. like the automatic updates in Kubuntu08:15
BluesKajok then try system settings/monitor and display/hardware/admin mode /configure graphics card08:15
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chanflehow i can update to kubuntu 7.04, on this moment i have 6.06...???08:15
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Napa-Blueskaj: It still says Vesa08:16
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Daisuke_Idochanfle: you're better off doing a fresh install, since upgrading will require going from 6.06 to 6.10 then 6.10 to 7.0408:16
BlueDevil how do i recompile linux-restricted-modules?08:17
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chanfleDaisuke_Ido: ok....i have 542 update, i install on this moment...maybe on these update contain the new update 7.04?08:17
BluesKajNapa-, look for the card in the list after you click on configure08:17
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chanflehow i can know waht version I use for kubuntu?08:18
tsdgeoscan someone ban gellioth 08:19
tsdgeos3 channels in 20 min08:19
Napa-BluesKaj: there are different Radeon cards ..ATI RADEON and with (fbdev) (fglrx) (vesa) - What's the difference?08:19
coreymon77nalioth: thats your cue08:19
apolchanfle: you can know it with "uname -a"08:19
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BluesKajgellioth, in the sever text window : /join #espaciolinux08:19
apoldepending on the kernel version08:19
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BluesKajNapa-, i would try the fglrx for now08:20
coreymon77can anyone help me and Sesshy make an ssh (or vnc) server so that i can connect to and control his conputer08:20
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chanfleapol: on 10x08:21
chanfleok 10x08:21
coreymon77do this08:21
coreymon77whoops, wrong window08:21
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chanflei have a problem with amsn08:22
DexterFcoreymon77: ahem.08:22
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coreymon77let me just try something again08:23
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DexterFcoreymon77: where I come from talking someone into giving vnc or ssh access is considered dread evil08:23
Napa-Ok .. Now I've changed it08:23
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DexterFeven if someone requests it one shouldn't do it.08:23
coreymon77DexterF: ???08:23
BluesKajNapa-, you may have to relogin08:23
chanflewhen i want to open the amsn, the cursor only stay think but not open nothing.....why?08:23
coreymon77DexterF: why, im just trying to help him out08:23
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KartiHi all.....can anyone recommend a MS Project open source alternative? All help appreciated08:24
BluesKajKarti, go ask in #windows :)08:24
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DexterFcoreymon77: help is always much appreciated but this lures newbies into thinking this is a good way of help. for one, they won't figure stuff by themselves, next this means you can drop rootkits or sumsuch there. unless you two are close friends or otherwise trust each other, that machine is to be seen as compromised.08:25
KartiBluesKaj: Many thanks08:25
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chanflesomebody help me with amsn...please...!!08:27
jhutchins_ltKarti: OpenOffice has a presentation tool.08:27
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DexterFchanfle: try setting up the account in kopete08:27
jhutchins_ltKarti: Sorry, brainfart.  You want Project, not PowerPoint.08:27
jhutchins_lt!equivalents | karti08:28
ubotukarti: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant08:28
chanfleDexterF: hhmmmm i don't like me the kopete...jajaja08:28
BluesKajchanfle, try kopete, it works better tha amsn in linux08:28
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Kartijhutchins_lt: many thanks08:29
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chanfleBluesKaj: ok ok but how i can reinstall amsn?08:29
BluesKajit's there hust look for it chanfle08:30
coreymon77DexterF: ive tryed having him do thigns on his oqw08:30
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coreymon77DexterF: ive been trying for hoyurs, we jsut cant get it wokring08:30
coreymon77DexterF: and also, i wouldnt do that08:31
DexterFwhat are you trying to get working?08:31
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DexterFcoreymon77: that's what you say. words are just 0 and 1. no offense.08:31
Kartijhutchins_lt: Only problem is first link is a russioan 404 page!08:31
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jhutchins_ltKarti: It opened for me, in english.08:32
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evsophomore2009Hey anyone08:32
evsophomore2009is it normal for Mozilla to just close unexpecatly?08:32
DexterFyeah, it sucks :D08:32
DexterFscnr. no, of course not08:33
nosrednaekimevsophomore2009: you mean firefox?08:33
evsophomore2009no, i use Mozilla08:33
evsophomore2009Firefox does the same thing08:33
jhutchins_ltKarti: You can also try http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/08:33
DexterFevsophomore2009: particular site?08:33
evsophomore2009any site08:33
evsophomore2009Myspace.com, Youtube.com, Yahoo.com08:34
nosrednaekimevsophomore2009: well...I don't know about mozilla. But yeah, Firefoxdoes it sometimes, really stinks for when you are working on wordpress08:34
evsophomore2009it will somtimes work, and someitmes just close08:34
jhutchins_ltKarti: It refers to http://mrproject.codefactory.se/ and http://outreach.sourceforge.net08:34
Kartijhutchins_lt: How strange...its english now...just looking ...will also try the other link many thanks08:34
DexterFevsophomore2009: checked other browsers? konq, opera? perhaps a plugin issue08:35
DexterFfubared java or so08:35
evsophomore2009Nosrednaekim: any suggestions on a new browser that works other then Mozilla, konqueror, firefox08:35
mattsqzthat is most likely08:35
mattsqzopera is good08:35
DexterFSesshy: around?08:35
evsophomore2009Mattsqz: how do i get opera?08:35
nosrednaekimevsophomore2009: safari? ;)08:35
evsophomore2009nosrednaekim: isnt that what Apple uses?08:36
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BluesKajsafari in windows is booorrrrinngg08:36
DexterF*windows* is boring :)08:36
nosrednaekimevsophomore2009: yeah, although a beta was released for windows08:36
evsophomore2009Blueskaj: well im not using windows08:36
BluesKajjust a comment08:36
nosrednaekimyeah I know... it is.08:37
evsophomore2009i know08:37
DexterFwell, on second thought, it isn't.. it's annoying08:37
nosrednaekimbesides, it looks terrible on vista, so out of style08:37
evsophomore2009so where can i download safari?08:37
nosrednaekimevsophomore2009: you can't for linux.08:37
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DexterFevsophomore2009: there's no safari for linux. besides, that would be dumb since konq uses the same rendering engine :) check out opera.com08:37
evsophomore2009Well so much for that08:37
BluesKajwhat's wrong with konq , and FF ...if you have crash probs then maybe your graphics plugins and card are the prob not the browser08:37
SesshyDexterF: yeah, I'm still around08:38
DexterFSesshy: read what I told about trust / system security further up?08:38
evsophomore2009Blueskaj: well idk it just closes ALOT08:38
Sesshystupid nVidia 64-bit drivers don't work with my kernel08:38
evsophomore2009too much to even use it08:38
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DexterFevsophomore2009: other stuff is stable? hardware issues rooted out?08:39
nosrednaekimevsophomore2009: do you have a plugins installed?08:39
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mattsqzif its just the web browser it likely isnt a hardware issue08:39
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evsophomore2009how do i install plugins?08:39
SesshyDexterF: yeah, I see what you said08:39
DexterFmattsqz: hence the question. if random apps crash, RAM issue perhaps08:40
trakinasevsophomore2009: plugins for?08:40
DexterFSesshy: good. not accusing anyone of doing anything, only pointing out this should be considered.08:40
BluesKajmattsqz, perhaps not exactly hrdwre , but maybe faulty drivers and plugins08:40
trakinasevsophomore2009: which ones?08:40
evsophomore2009well i dont know08:40
DexterFevsophomore2009: embedded video, flash and such08:40
evsophomore2009i need a plugin that WONT close Mozilla anytime it wants08:40
nosrednaekimevsophomore2009: never mind08:41
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trakinasevsophomore2009: hehehehe! flash it installed automatic here. java i needed to install over apt-get same for kaffeine.08:41
trakinasevsophomore2009: everything runs smoothly here.08:41
evsophomore2009thats nice08:41
trakinaswhich firefox?08:42
BluesKajevsophomore2009, open FF and in the addressbar type about:plugins..take alok at the list and make sure java, flash and windows media/mplayer plugins are listed and enabled08:42
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SesshyDexterF: do you have any idea why Swiftfox might not be working? I have it all installed correctly and everything, it's just that when I try to load it through KDE, it appears on the taskbar, says it's loading for a minute or so, and then goes away08:43
evsophomore2009application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes08:43
evsophomore2009application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes08:43
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DexterFSesshy: what's swiftfox?08:43
evsophomore2009thats it08:43
Sesshyand when I try to run it through the console, it tells me that the swiftfox-bin doesn't exist in the specified directory, even when I'm looking at the file in front of me08:43
trakinasevsophomore2009: no java and no multimidia plugins.08:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:43
SesshyDexterF: it's just a build of firefox optimized for various architectures08:44
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DexterFSesshy: how did you install it?08:44
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BluesKajsuppoesdly runs faster on 64bit pcs08:44
DexterFwhere did you get it? there seems to be no such package in kub08:44
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SesshyDexterF: dbpkg08:44
DexterFSesshy: sure you picked the package for your architecture?08:45
evsophomore2009trakinas: no08:45
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BluesKajevsophomore2009, you have to get java and mplayer-moxilla plugins at least and the xine-plugin as well08:45
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DexterFSesshy: what does $ file /path-to/swiftfox-bin tell you?08:46
trakinasevsophomore2009: for multi-midia i recommend mplayer-plugin or kaffeine plugin. mplayer-plugin you put  embebed the player into the browser, while kaffeine will call the player (correct?). you choose.08:46
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ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.08:46
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trakinasfor java, read that link.08:47
SesshyDexterF: yeah. I'm reading the forums, and apparently other people have the same issues08:47
Sesshygonna read up a bit more08:47
DexterFSesshy: use opera ;)08:47
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evsophomore2009ugh this is too confusing!08:49
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trakinasevsophomore2009: haahahhah. not that much.08:49
trakinasdo you have any java installed?08:49
evsophomore2009Okay well how do i get Macromedia's Flash player on Konqueror?08:50
baghyayi want don't use the login screen in the start of kubuntu08:50
trakinasevsophomore2009: it should be alrady activated. in Konquerors options you can check in to use mozilla's plugins08:50
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trakinasevsophomore2009: as i was talling you... if not, go to apt-get/adept and look for black sdk. after installing it, look for mozilla java plugin08:51
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baghyayhow to desactve the login screen08:52
trakinasevsophomore2009: blackdown sdk - j2re1.408:52
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evsophomore2009Trakinas: where do i find it in Adept?08:54
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trakinasevsophomore2009: just search it. ;] 08:54
trakinasblackdown java08:54
trakinasor j2re08:54
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Silent_Gcan somebody tell me why is this error happining ? http://rafb.net/p/Izb0Mp40.html08:55
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trakinasSilent_G: missing libraries?08:56
evsophomore2009so which file do i install?08:57
llutzSilent_G: libncurses5-dev08:57
trakinasevsophomore2009: both, the j2re1.4 is the java run time. and the j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin is the plugin.08:57
trakinasevsophomore2009: the one named "j2re1.4"08:58
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jason10hello..  i was wondering if someone would be willing to clear up for me exactly the way that package installing works..09:05
jason10im used to windows09:05
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jason10and i notice with packages and faqs its never clear as to exactly where the thing should go09:06
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jzillabasicly, you dont really have to tell it where to install09:06
jason10does it make any difference where stuff gets installed to?09:06
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jzillausing a package manager, its all handled for you09:07
nosrednaekimjason10: where? everything goes to /usr/ but that shouldn't concern you because in linux there is a thing called a package manager09:07
jason10but today i decided to install (for example) firefox 209:07
Silent_Gwill modules in kernel be automaticaly loaded on start up?09:07
jason10ff2.xx is not in the package universe thing09:07
nosrednaekimjason10: you have two choices, you can install it to /usr/bin. or you can unzip it locally.09:07
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jason10well..  one of the pages i read about it said to put firefox in /opt/firefox09:08
jason10was a tar.gz file09:08
nosrednaekimjason10: hmmm maybe firefox does go there.09:09
jason10so i put it there and it worked, but then i couldnt give my kmenu access to it09:09
nosrednaekimalmost everything goes to usr/bin though09:09
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nosrednaekimjason10: was there an error?09:09
ubuntu_im trying to recover GRUB using the guide on the wiki. However, when i type in "grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/sda" it just stalls forever (My linux partition is on /dev/sda2 which is mounted to /mnt/root). What to do?09:09
trakinasjason10: i did find firefox on packages...09:09
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jason10firefox 2.0?09:09
jason10all i could find was 1.509:10
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trakinasjason10: yep09:10
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jason10anyway i removed it from the first place and put it in /home/jason/.mozilla/firefox09:10
ubuntu_I am installing kubuntu as we speak09:11
nosrednaekimjason10: wrong place... that stores all your firefox SETTINGS09:11
trakinasz1pp3r: well... put the 2 after the sda... =P09:11
ubuntu_feeling very leet now09:11
nosrednaekimput it in /home/jason/firefox-bin09:11
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nosrednaekimSet: heh09:11
z1pp3rtrakinas: well, i want it installed on MBR, so it shouldnt be sda2 should it?09:11
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jason10i do not have a /firefox-bin directory...09:12
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trakinasz1pp3r: well... --root-directory indicates where your image is located, if im not wrong09:12
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gvenoshi to everyone there09:13
jason10everything is working fine in the jason/.mozilla/firefox09:13
z1pp3rtrakinas: ooh, it just finished. Just took some 15 mins or so09:13
trakinasgvenos: hi09:13
jason10all the bookmarks are right, all the plugins work..  except flash...09:13
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trakinasz1pp3r: lol09:13
trakinasgood luck rebooting09:13
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trakinasOutoLumo: hello09:15
OutoLumoAnyone has idea in which package is kapp.h et al? (for development in KDE)09:15
trakinasjason10: what is the problem?09:15
jason10so anyway, when im dealing manually with a tar.gz package i should install it.. where ?09:15
jason10or home/jason/.something?09:16
trakinas jason10: it probably already have all the path correctly setted. you only need to change it if you want to.09:16
OutoLumodepends... /usr/local/bin ?09:16
nosrednaekimjason10: /usr/share would be best.09:16
trakinasand it isnt in .something. if you want it locale, it is on  /usr/local/bin09:17
_dacJisao, did I miss anything special Sunday?09:17
jason10i thought that when i use command line it will just extract to wherever the file currently is?09:17
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jason10my /usr/local/bin/ folder exists, but it has nothing in it at all..09:18
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OutoLumojason10, it's for local installs... those the system packkage manager does not nadle.,09:19
baghyayhow to edit application start with kubuntu start09:19
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trakinasbaghyay: System Config. --> Advanced09:20
trakinasjason10: extract yes, install, no.09:21
jason10so if i just extract all my tar.gz packages to /usr/local/bin then the package  will..09:21
jason10do not install?09:21
trakinasjason10: unless it is a binary file, it will installs in default bin folder.09:23
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