[12:15] <angrycore> antonis: turn into kde? o.O
[12:15] <BluesKaj> antonis, run adept or apt package manager to install more apps from sources
[12:15] <antonis> how can i use kde sessions feature????
[12:15] <angrycore> open kcontrol
[12:16] <angrycore> antonis: there go to smth like 'kde components"
[12:16] <Ze_M> i did run the adept_installer but i cant find xchat ot other known programs to install, any help?
[12:17] <angrycore> antonis: session manager
[12:18] <angrycore> Ze_M: try adept_manager
[12:19] <Ze_M> angrycore: whereisit
[12:19] <angrycore> Ze_M: find there a button with two green arrows
[12:19] <angrycore> press alt+F2
[12:20] <angrycore> type there adept_manager
[12:20] <angrycore> press enter)
[12:20] <arkanabar> I forget how to mount a partition....
[12:21] <angrycore> arkanabar: man mount ?
[12:21] <arkanabar> I need to mount them to look at them, so I know which one to blow to install Feisty from disk.
[12:22] <angrycore> Ze_M: honetly i don't like adept - aptitude is much better in my opinion
[12:23] <Ze_M> doesnt appear any outputfor xchat search
[12:23] <afrol> hello, folks. I think my friend on ubuntu gutsy may have found a problem with the new version of boost (1.34).
[12:24] <afrol> it looks as if xmmsclient-c++ is looking for 1.33.1
[12:24] <Ze_M> afterte packages are installed are they erased?
[12:24] <afrol> nopaste of errors (when compiling client): http://rafb.net/p/DWmo8S56.html
[12:24] <Ze_M> i dont see any option to keep downloaded packages    afterinstall
[12:25] <afrol> with libboost-signals-dev 1.34 installed
[12:25] <ejortegau> hey guys. any help with php? i tried #php but i'm getting redirected to #overflow :(
[12:25] <angrycore> Ze_M: you don't have to
[12:25] <angrycore> Ze_M: you can recreate them any time you want
[12:26] <angrycore> dpkg can do that
[12:26] <angrycore> but i dont remember exact commands for it0
[12:27] <angrycore> if you want  to install xchat try alt+F2 -> konsole
[12:27] <angrycore> type there: sudo aptitude update
[12:28] <angrycore> then: sudo aptitude install xchat
[12:28] <angrycore> if it wont help check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:29] <Level15> hey guys. i'm trying to use mail() function to send mail (obviously). i'm setting up extra headers to be From: user@host, but the mailserver bounces them since apparently he is getting something like mail from: www-data@server. any ideas?
[12:32] <L-_-_-_-_-_-R> Hi.
[12:32] <L-_-_-_-_-_-R> This nickname is awesome.
[12:32] <L-_-_-_-_-_-R> Left        Right
[12:32] <L-_-_-_-_-_-R> Anyone here use Linux?
[12:33] <Goliath23> you don't? :)
[12:33] <Tailsfan> Does Kubuntu support FAT32 USB Hard Drives?
[12:33] <doronb2> someone can help????
[12:34] <Goliath23> Tailsfan: yes.
[12:34] <Goliath23> doronb2: whats the problem?
[12:35] <Tailsfan> OK, Because whenever I plug in my Buslink Drive, It won't show up on the desktop or the Storage Media area
[12:35] <vince_> join #kubuntu-fr
[12:35] <vince_> lol ->
[12:35] <doronb2> please visit - http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3084179 and read my problem (its long.. i put a screenshot there also)
[12:35] <Goliath23> Tailsfan: does it have an external power supply?
[12:35] <doronb2> PLEASE
[12:35] <Tailsfan> Yes
[12:35] <Tailsfan> and it's plugged in
[12:36] <Goliath23> Tailsfan: what version of kubuntu are you using?
[12:36] <Tailsfan> Getting Ready to use 7.04
[12:37] <Goliath23> and updating from what version?
[12:37] <Tailsfan> No Other, I'm installing ot fresh from XP
[12:38] <Goliath23> Tailsfan: is it already installed? I would expect that it displays a dialog if you put in an usb disk
[12:38] <Tailsfan> Not Yet
[12:38] <Goliath23> doronb2: this is what you geht if you try to boot the CD?
[12:39] <Goliath23> doronb2: after you hit install, I mean?
[12:39] <doronb2> yes
[12:39] <L-_-_-_-_-_-R> Only nickname that wasn't already registered. :)
[12:39] <doronb2> also if i press "check CD" or any other possebility
[12:40] <Tailsfan> BRB 5-10 Mins
[12:40] <Goliath23> doronb2: I don't have a clue what causes this behaviour, but you could try to add an additional kernel option "noapic".
[12:41] <doronb2> i dont understand. what i need to do? how i add this?
[12:41] <Goliath23> i'm searching for a helpful forum thread right now
[12:42] <xero> how do you get sound in a flash plugin in firefox?
[12:42] <doronb2> thanks Goliath23
[12:44] <xero> anyone?
[12:45] <Goliath23> doronb2: what are all the other options called on the boot screen beside "install" there must be an option where you can edit the kernel boot parameters. adding the word "noapic" to it might help in your case.. not sure.
[12:45] <Goliath23> you could also try the alternate install cd available on the mirrors
[12:45] <darkrift_> doronb2: , try different versions too
[12:45] <doronb2> i tried 3 altenatives mirrors
[12:46] <darkrift_> not diff mirrors
[12:46] <doronb2> threr isnt any option to edit the kernel
[12:46] <darkrift_> not edit kernel
[12:46] <darkrift_> edit boot options
[12:46] <darkrift_> should be the 2rd option down on the boot list
[12:47] <darkrift_> it should pop up a little text box with some text in it that you can type in
[12:47] <darkrift_> add noapic to teh end of that
[12:47] <doronb2> i tried them all... really
[12:47] <doronb2> whats "noapic"?
[12:47] <darkrift_> advanced power erm..... forgot
[12:47] <darkrift_> but i know sometimes it works :)
[12:48] <darkrift_> mine wouldnt boot without it (from cd)
[12:48] <Goliath23> advanced programmable interrupt controller
[12:48] <darkrift_> there we go
[12:48] <darkrift_> just try it
[12:48] <darkrift_> cant hurt
[12:48] <doronb2> thanks for trying but there isnt an option that i can edit boot params
[12:48] <doronb2> ...
[12:49] <darkrift_> there IS if you used teh kubuntu 7.04 cd
[12:49] <Goliath23> some standard which is not implemented very well by some bios vendors as far as I know and therefore causing troubles on systems other than windows sometimes
[12:49] <darkrift_> cause i just installed a few days ago and i used that same cd
[12:49] <Goliath23> on the same pc?
[12:49] <Goliath23> did you add a pci card since then?
[12:50] <doronb2> ok i'm trying again and will return in 5 minutes. THANKS GOLIATH AND DARKRIFT
[12:50] <darkrift_> good luck
[12:55] <doronb2> ok, before i'm restarting i tried to boot in my virtual box, just to show the menu options. i printscreened and there are the options - http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5668/65607520df9.jpg
[12:55] <doronb2> please check
[12:56] <jhutchins> doronb2: What happens when you pres Esc?
[12:57] <doronb2> i'm entering a text mode interface
[12:57] <doronb2> "boot:"
[12:58] <doronb2> (at least in the VB.. hopefully also in the real restart)
[01:06] <arash_> Totally new to KDE
[01:07] <arash_> how do I add profiles, so family members can sign in?
[01:07] <Minataku> They don't deserve the privilige!
[01:07] <Minataku> j/k
[01:07] <Minataku> But I don't know, I'm sure someone here does, though
[01:07] <arash_> Yea, they are suickers for MS, anyway, how
[01:07] <Minataku> Maybe the bot might
[01:07] <Minataku> !users
[01:07] <ubotu> To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
[01:07] <Minataku> There we go :D
[01:08] <Minataku> Now force them to use nothing but Kubuntu
[01:08] <Minataku> Or some other form of "Not Windows"
[01:08] <doronb2> any ideas of helping with my problem???
[01:09] <Minataku> doronb2: You need to set custom boot options
[01:10] <SuperPerroFlashi> hey, I had a question
[01:10] <Minataku> Ugh, a dumbass custom menu thing
[01:10] <SuperPerroFlashi> don't know if you guys could help me
[01:10] <coreymon77> !ask | SuperPerroFlashi
[01:10] <ubotu> SuperPerroFlashi: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:10] <SuperPerroFlashi> awesome
[01:11] <doronb2> Minataku : how can i do that?
[01:11] <SuperPerroFlashi> simple: can't get ethernet to work with FF
[01:11] <SuperPerroFlashi> which does work with BB
[01:11] <Minataku> doronb2: I have no clue how to edit boot options from that idiot menu
[01:11] <Minataku> Sorry
[01:11] <Minataku> doronb2: Just hang around, but don't ask more than once every 10 or 15 minutes
[01:11] <doronb2> and NOT from this menu how can i do it??
[01:12] <SuperPerroFlashi> and... that's weird
[01:12] <Minataku> doronb2: Say, have you tried the alternative install CD?
[01:12] <Minataku> !alternate
[01:12] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[01:12] <doronb2> mmmmm... i didn't get it.. why dont ask more than once every 15 min??
[01:12] <SuperPerroFlashi> it works out of the box with BB (Live DVD), but does not with FF
[01:12] <Minataku> doronb2: Because it's rather annoying
[01:13] <Minataku> SuperPerroFlashi: BB? FF?
[01:13] <arash_> Hello, how do I increase my screen resolution, i got 1024x786 I think
[01:13] <Minataku> !resolution
[01:13] <SuperPerroFlashi> Breezy, Feisty
[01:13] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:13] <Minataku> SuperPerroFlashi: Ah
[01:13] <arash_> but I know it can got faaaaaaaaaaar more, like 1900*1200 wsomnething
[01:13] <Minataku> No idea
[01:13] <doronb2> minataku: i tried alternatives install cd's
[01:13] <SuperPerroFlashi> ah, yeah... it's puzzled quite some ppl already
[01:13] <SuperPerroFlashi> (myself being the first)
[01:13] <Minataku> doronb2: Then I'm stuck, sorry
[01:14] <Minataku> SuperPerroFlashi: Wireless?
[01:14] <doronb2> uboto: where can i find this "expert" install cd??
[01:14] <SuperPerroFlashi> nope
[01:14] <cables> doronb2: ubotu is a bot
[01:14] <Minataku> !alternate | doronb2
[01:14] <ubotu> doronb2: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[01:14] <SuperPerroFlashi> ethernet bband
[01:15] <Minataku> SuperPerroFlashi: Hrm... I know of at least one case where some dumbass left a driver out of Feisty
[01:15] <SuperPerroFlashi> no funky wireless super-fine stuff
[01:15] <tailsfan> Back, Sorry I took long
[01:15] <SuperPerroFlashi> no, Driver's there, checked
[01:15] <Minataku> I hope that's not the issue with you
[01:15] <Minataku> Oh,that's good
[01:15] <Minataku> lol
[01:15] <Minataku> SuperPerroFlashi: Perhaps you need to manually configure it
[01:15] <tailsfan> OK, I think I figured out what my problem is with the USB Hard Drive
[01:15] <SuperPerroFlashi> maybe...
[01:15] <Minataku> SuperPerroFlashi: Try that
[01:16] <Minataku> If automatic doesn't work, try manual
[01:16] <doronb2> ok... how can i get this EXPERT cd?
[01:16] <SuperPerroFlashi> however... you might realize i'm an absolute ignorant
[01:16] <Minataku> It's not broken unless neither works
[01:16] <SuperPerroFlashi> lol
[01:16] <Minataku> doronb2: I already had ubotu tell you
[01:16] <Minataku> It's not my fault if you refused to pay attentio
[01:16] <Minataku> n
[01:16] <tailsfan> Do you have to install a package to recognize SCSI Drives?
[01:16] <Minataku> tailsfan: SCSI Emulation should be there by default
[01:16] <doronb2> it said " see also !minimal"... what is minimal?
[01:16] <Minataku> !minimal
[01:16] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[01:17] <Minataku> Get the Alternate, though, first
[01:17] <tailsfan> OK, because whenever I did install my HDD on Windows, I get "USB-IDE Bridge" followed by "SCSI Adapter00"
[01:17] <Minataku> It should be in the same place that you got the regular one
[01:17] <SuperPerroFlashi> however, I'm still puzzled... how come it works so easily with Breezy?
[01:17] <Minataku> tailsfan: Right, the bridge functions using SCSI transport protocol
[01:17] <Minataku> SuperPerroFlashi: No idea
[01:18] <tailsfan> and it's showing up on Kubuntu, my Drive
[01:18] <doronb2> minataku: thanks, i'll give it a try
[01:18] <Minataku> tailsfan: So what's the problem then?
[01:18] <SuperPerroFlashi> wicked
[01:18] <Minataku> doronb2: Good luck
[01:18] <SuperPerroFlashi> thanks anyways
[01:18] <SuperPerroFlashi> ciao
[01:19] <doronb2> minataku: but the minimal is ubuntu, not Kubuntu...
[01:19] <doronb2> no?
[01:19] <Minataku> doronb2: There is a minimal Kubuntu CD
[01:19] <tailsfan> WheneverI plug in my USB Hard Drive, Kubuntu will not show the icon on the Desktop or Storage Media areas
[01:19] <Minataku> They're actually all the same distro, more or less
[01:19] <Minataku> Just with a different xxxxx-desktop package
[01:20] <SuperPerroFlashi> minimal? as in Zip kinda size?
[01:20] <Minataku> No, minimal as in nothing on the CD
[01:20] <Minataku> The way it SHOULD be, really, a network install
[01:20] <doronb2> ok... THANKS!
[01:20] <Minataku> The only reason you'd need a CD with packages on it is because you have no network
[01:20] <Minataku> doronb2: Again, good luck
[01:21] <SuperPerroFlashi> mmhh... OR... you can't get the internet to work...
[01:21] <doronb2> at last.. someone that helps..
[01:21] <SuperPerroFlashi> actually: can't get to access the internet...
[01:21] <tailsfan> If it helps, according to KInfoCenter, It shows up in there as "USB-ATAPI4 Bridge Controller"
[01:21] <Minataku> SuperPerroFlashi: Have you tried manual configuration?
[01:21] <Minataku> tailsfan: What filesystem is on this drive?
[01:21] <SuperPerroFlashi> manual configuration... as in?
[01:22] <tailsfan> FAT32
[01:22] <Minataku> SuperPerroFlashi: Manually entering network configuration information
[01:22] <SuperPerroFlashi> yep, tried, but don't bet on it...
[01:22] <tailsfan> If that ain't the Problem, It could be that the drive is NTFS
[01:22] <SuperPerroFlashi> maybe I just did nothing right
[01:23] <SuperPerroFlashi> what "should" i do? to properly configure it?
[01:23] <Minataku> Let's see if the bot has any wisdom on this
[01:23] <Minataku> !network
[01:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:23] <Minataku> Bah
[01:23] <Minataku> Not all networking is wireless, damnit
[01:23] <Minataku> !ethernet
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethernet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:23] <SuperPerroFlashi> lol
[01:24] <BluesKaj> !dhcp
[01:24] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[01:24] <tailsfan> !ATAPI
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atapi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <rootusr> Does Work Kubunty With Windows Vista /New File System) in the same PC?
[01:24] <Minataku> BluesKaj: You take over
[01:24] <BluesKaj> hehe
[01:24] <Minataku> XD
[01:24] <tailsfan> !ntfs
[01:24] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:24] <Minataku> Sorry, I'm not in prime thinking mode ATM X3
[01:24] <BluesKaj> no Minataku, i'm going out to have a beer on the patio
[01:25] <rootusr> Vindows vista nes file system is "WinSF"
[01:25] <Minataku> No, Kubuntu doesn't work with that new piece of sh*t "filesystem" that "comes" with Vista
[01:26] <SuperPerroFlashi> ok, I KNOW my ISP uses dhcp
[01:26] <Minataku> But then Vista barely works with it either
[01:26] <SuperPerroFlashi> haha, Minataku
[01:26] <Minataku> So it all balances out
[01:31] <arash_> "sudo: nvidia-settings: command not found"
[01:31] <BluesKaj> BBL
[01:31] <arash_> What is that supposed to mean??
[01:31] <SuperPerroFlashi> there is no nvidia... bin?
[01:31] <Minataku> Seems pretty obvious to me
[01:31] <arash_> minataku - Ok, what does the guide mean? it says I should run that command
[01:31] <Minataku> arash_: Do you have an nvidia card?
[01:31] <arash_> I don't know, I think so
[01:31] <arash_> 8800 I think
[01:31] <Minataku> "Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue" ( Quote from "Airplane" )
[01:31] <Minataku> XD
[01:31] <SuperPerroFlashi> XD
[01:31] <Minataku> I love that movie
[01:31] <SuperPerroFlashi> airplane as in The Airplane?
[01:31] <Minataku> I should go watch it
[01:31] <SuperPerroFlashi> mmhh... never have
[01:31] <Minataku> SuperPerroFlashi: No, "Airplane", that's the name of the movie
[01:31] <Minataku> Comedy
[01:31] <SuperPerroFlashi> yes, but the Sniffing glue... sounded a bit like the Jefferson... never mind
[01:43] <ruben> holaa
[01:43] <coreymon77> hi
[01:43] <wsjunior> does anybody know which package is need to have manpages of c/c++ libraries like in freebsd?!
[01:43] <wsjunior> *needed
[01:44] <coreymon77> wsjunior: apt-cache search it
[01:44] <coreymon77> \see what comes up
[01:44] <wsjunior> coreymon77: i tried it before asking dude
[01:45] <wsjunior> i've searching for this package for two days actually..
[01:46] <wsjunior> it's not manpages-dev neither glibc-doc
[01:49] <MattParry> Hi!  Does anyone know if there are any KDE intergration plans for the ubuntu mobile and embedded plans?
[02:08] <tailsfan> how do you rename a file in Terminal
[02:10] <tailsfan> how do you rename a file in Terminal
[02:10] <Tm_T> !away | HomeRoey
[02:10] <ubotu> HomeRoey: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[02:11] <evsophomore2009> can someone tell me how to Uninstall FrostwirE?
[02:11] <hikaricore> tailsfan: mv filename othername
[02:11] <Tm_T> HomeRoey: just turn that public away off thank you
[02:11] <HomeRoey> how do you do that?
[02:11] <zengrong>  
[02:11] <Tm_T> HomeRoey: hmm, Konversation?
[02:11] <HomeRoey> x-chat
[02:11] <HomeRoey> regrettably
[02:11] <HomeRoey> one of the last pieces of gtk-encumbered code I still use
[02:11] <Tm_T> no idea, just browse settings
[02:11] <tailsfan> Thanks
[02:12] <zengrong> konver~
[02:12] <HomeRoey> (gaim, x-chat and gimp)
[02:12] <bipolar> Kopete, Konversation, Krita :)
[02:17] <thiago_> #highway
[02:17] <giovani2> HomeRoey: ahem ... pidgin hahaha
[02:18] <giovani2> thou hast saideth the name that shall not be spoken!
[02:20] <thugnasty> hey, I have a quesion about mp3 playback
[02:20] <thugnasty> I'm a complete newb
[02:22] <thugnasty> I'm running 6.06, and I am able to view dvds
[02:22] <thugnasty> yet, I am unable to use eithser kaffeine or amaroK to listen to mp3
[02:24] <stdin> thugnasty: have you installed the codec package?
[02:24] <evsophomore2009> can someone help me install a Deb. file???
[02:24] <stdin> !deb | evsophomore2009
[02:24] <ubotu> evsophomore2009: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[02:25] <thugnasty> I am not certain
[02:25] <thugnasty> I've gotten some things off of the adept program
[02:25] <stdin> thugnasty: it's called "libxine-extracodecs", check that's installed
[02:25] <thugnasty> yeah, there is a problem with that...I think
[02:26] <thugnasty> when I request an install
[02:26] <evsophomore2009> it still wont install!
[02:26] <thugnasty> it says (BREAK) install in read
[02:26] <thugnasty> red*
[02:26] <thugnasty> should I still install it?
[02:27] <stdin> thugnasty: try running the command "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" in konsole and post the error to pastebin
[02:27] <stdin> !pastebin
[02:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:27] <evsophomore2009> stdin: it still wont install
[02:27] <stdin> evsophomore2009: what's the error?
[02:28] <evsophomore2009> Errors were encounterd while processing /home/mike/dektop/aim_1.5.286-1_i386.deb
[02:29] <baghyay> comment    faire lancer le programe qu'il cherche des mis  jours pour kubuntu  car il a ps lancer en dmarage
[02:29] <stdin> evsophomore2009: there's more than that, post the whole of the output to pastebin
[02:30] <thugnasty> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25351/
[02:30] <evsophomore2009> well it wont let me copy & Paste it, so ill take a Screen Shot
[02:30] <thugnasty> I apologize for my stupidity
[02:30] <evsophomore2009> hold on
[02:30] <stdin> thugnasty: is that the whole of the outout?
[02:30] <stdin> *output
[02:31] <stdin> !fr | baghyay
[02:31] <ubotu> baghyay: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:31] <thugnasty> no, sorry
[02:31] <thugnasty> hold on just one moment, I'll put the whole part in
[02:31] <baghyay> oh   sorry i forget that
[02:31] <thugnasty> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25352/
[02:33] <stdin> thugnasty: it looks like a sources problem, post the file /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin please
[02:33] <thugnasty> just put that into konsole?
[02:33] <evsophomore2009> http://i16.tinypic.com/628eljq.jpg
[02:33] <stdin> thugnasty: you can open it in kate and copy and paste it in to pastebin
[02:34] <stdin> evsophomore2009: how did you get the file, and where is it from?
[02:34] <evsophomore2009> aim.com
[02:34] <evsophomore2009> im trying to get Aol Instant Messanger
[02:34] <evsophomore2009> im really sick of Kopete
[02:35] <savetheWorld> try pigdin
[02:35] <savetheWorld> try pidgin
[02:35] <evsophomore2009> savetheworld: i just want AIM, im famillar with it
[02:35] <evsophomore2009> and i like it
[02:35] <thugnasty> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25354/
[02:38] <thugnasty> was that the right thing?
[02:38] <stdin> thugnasty: you're missing the main "dapper main restricted" source
[02:38] <thugnasty> stdin: alright, how do I go about fixing this?
[02:39] <stdin> evsophomore2009: it's a bad file, complain to the aol people. In the meantime download the tzg file and follow the instructions
[02:39] <evsophomore2009> tzg file?
[02:40] <stdin> thugnasty: open the file as root (press Alt-F2 and type in: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list)
[02:40] <stdin> evsophomore2009: from this page http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp#install
[02:40] <evsophomore2009> ahh i see
[02:40] <stdin> evsophomore2009: the option under the deb files
[02:40] <waltercool> Someone know why i can empty my trash can?
[02:40] <avalon> Is there a way to setup beryl with Kubuntu?
[02:40] <evsophomore2009> stdin: okay now how do i install it?>
[02:40] <avalon> I'm running the nvidia kernel
[02:41] <stdin> thugnasty: paste in this line "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted"
[02:41] <Tm_T> !beryl > avalon
[02:42] <evsophomore2009> stdin: how do i install it?
[02:42] <stdin> evsophomore2009: download it, to your desktop
[02:42] <evsophomore2009> done
[02:43] <waltercool> someone?
[02:43] <stdin> evsophomore2009: then run this command (in konsole) "cd / ; sudo tar xzf ~/Desktop/aim-1.5.234-1.i386.tgz"
[02:43] <stdin> copy and paste it
[02:44] <stdin> thugnasty: then when you've done that, save it and run "sudo apt-get update" then you should be able to install the codec
[02:44] <evsophomore2009> stdin:
[02:44] <evsophomore2009> cd / ; sudo tar xzf ~/Desktop/aim-1.5.234-1.i386.t
[02:44] <evsophomore2009> **
[02:44] <evsophomore2009> mike@mike-desktop:~$ cd / ; sudo tar xzf ~/Desktop/aim-1.5.234-1.i386.t
[02:44] <evsophomore2009> tar: /home/mike/Desktop/aim-1.5.234-1.i386.t: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[02:44] <evsophomore2009> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[02:44] <evsophomore2009> tar: Child returned status 2
[02:44] <evsophomore2009> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[02:44] <evsophomore2009> OOPS sorry people
[02:45] <stdin> evsophomore2009: you missed the full command, the filename has a ".tgz" at the end
[02:45] <kadaz> Hi
[02:45] <stdin> evsophomore2009: "cd / ; sudo tar xzf ~/Desktop/aim-1.5.234-1.i386.tgz"
[02:45] <Fable> i need help with beryl. it doesnt open when i check in the tackbar. help please
[02:45] <kadaz> Hi
[02:45] <stdin> hi kadaz, Welcome to #kubuntu
[02:45] <stdin> and he's gone :p
[02:46] <Fable> hi
[02:46] <evsophomore2009> Cannot open: No such file or directory
[02:46] <evsophomore2009> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[02:46] <evsophomore2009> tar: Child returned status 2
[02:46] <evsophomore2009> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[02:46] <kadaz> Hi
[02:46] <Fable> i didnt mean to ask the question asap :(
[02:46] <stdin> evsophomore2009: is the file on your desktop?
[02:46] <kadaz> Kubunto is great !!!
[02:47] <stdin> ^ yes it is :)
[02:47] <evsophomore2009> the tgz..yes
[02:47] <evsophomore2009> well the picture looks like a package
[02:47] <stdin> evsophomore2009: ok, try "sudo tar xzf ~/aim<TAB>" (where <TAB> is the actual tab key)
[02:48] <stdin> opps...
[02:48] <waltercool> how can i empty my trash can?
[02:48] <waltercool> i cant
[02:48] <kadaz> heh, life the lid and lift
[02:48] <stdin> "sudo tar xzf ~/Desktop/aim<TAB>" (where <TAB> is the actual tab key), evsophomore2009
[02:48] <stdin> waltercool: any error given?
[02:48] <waltercool> only... i cant empty...
[02:48] <waltercool> is blocked the option
[02:49] <evsophomore2009> Stdin: It didnt work
[02:49] <stdin> waltercool: that normally means that it's already empty
[02:49] <waltercool> yes, but i have 2 files in
[02:49] <waltercool> and i cant empty
[02:50] <pablo_> hola
[02:50] <pablo_> como estan
[02:50] <Fable> is anyone familiar with adesklets
[02:50] <stdin> evsophomore2009: ok, try this: "cd ~/Desktop ; ls aim*" and show me what it says
[02:50] <pablo_> what?
[02:50] <evsophomore2009> ls: aim: No such file or directory
[02:50] <Fable> because i need help installing them
[02:50] <kadaz> can I ask a quick question?
[02:51] <stdin> evsophomore2009: hmm, you're sure the file "aim-1.5.234-1.i386.tgz" is on your desktop?
[02:51] <stdin> kadaz: ask away
[02:51] <evsophomore2009> do i have to exract it?
[02:51] <kadaz> does kubunto do a back up of xorg.conf the orginal one install on setup.
[02:52] <stdin> evsophomore2009: you extract it when you install it, so you just need to location of the archive
[02:52] <kadaz> and if it does, where it is?
[02:53] <evsophomore2009> hmmm
[02:53] <evsophomore2009> this is annoying
[02:53] <stdin> kadaz: it may do, look in the /etc/X11 directory and see if there are any files named "xorg.conf" but with something after it, eg "xorg.conf.backup"
[02:53] <kadaz> I checked. nothing, I see xorg.conf1 , 2 , 3, 4
[02:53] <kadaz> no backup.
[02:54] <thugnasty_> stdin: I still have the same problem with the audio playback
[02:54] <stdin> kadaz: the 1, 2, 3 etc.. are the backups
[02:54] <kadaz> which would be the last backup?
[02:55] <baghyay> when i  ve
[02:55] <baghyay> gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
[02:55] <baghyay> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found
[02:55] <kadaz> dont wanna put one in and not see a screen :D
[02:55] <stdin> evsophomore2009: maybe the instructions are wrong, see what " find ~ -type f -name "aim*" " shows
[02:55] <stdin> thugnasty_: did you restart amarok/kaffeine?
[02:55] <evsophomore2009> /home/mike/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/aim_1.5.286-1_i386.deb.desktop
[02:55] <evsophomore2009> /home/mike/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/aim-1.5.286.tgz.desktop
[02:56] <evsophomore2009> /home/mike/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/aim_1.5.286-1_i386.deb[9] .desktop
[02:56] <evsophomore2009> /home/mike/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/aim-1.5.286.tgz[2] .desktop
[02:56] <evsophomore2009> /home/mike/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/aim-1.5.286.desktop
[02:56] <evsophomore2009> /home/mike/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/aim_1.5.286-1_i386.deb[10] .desktop
[02:56] <evsophomore2009> /home/mike/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/aim_1.5.286-1_i386.deb.tar.gz.desktop
[02:56] <evsophomore2009> /home/mike/Desktop/usr/bin/aim
[02:56] <evsophomore2009> /home/mike/Desktop/usr/lib/aim/extra/aim.png
[02:56] <evsophomore2009> /home/mike/Desktop/usr/lib/aim/extra/aim.xpm
[02:56] <evsophomore2009> /home/mike/Desktop/usr/lib/aim/help/images/aimheaderleft.gif
[02:56] <stdin> ok, ok
[02:56] <evsophomore2009> /home/mike/Desktop/aim-1.5.286.tgz
[02:56] <evsophomore2009> /home/mike/usr/bin/aim
[02:56] <evsophomore2009> /home/mike/usr/lib/aim/extra/aim.png
[02:56] <evsophomore2009> /home/mike/usr/lib/aim/extra/aim.xpm
[02:56] <evsophomore2009> /home/mike/usr/lib/aim/help/images/aimheaderleft.gif
[02:56] <evsophomore2009> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Shiot!!!! sorry everyone!!!!
[02:56] <kadaz> !pastbine evsophomore2009
[02:56] <thugnasty_> stdin: it says it is playing the songs, but I don't hear anything
[02:56] <evsophomore2009> i already know Kadaz
[02:57] <kadaz> k :P
[02:57] <thugnasty_> stdin: it also plays the songs very quickly
[02:57] <stdin> thugnasty_: sounds silly, but check volume in the app and in kmix
[02:57] <last> ~$
[02:58] <thugnasty_> stdin: they are turned on
[02:58] <stdin> evsophomore2009: ok, do this then: cd / ; sudo tar xzf /home/mike/Desktop/aim-1.5.286.tgz
[02:58] <thugnasty_> stdin: I honestly have no idea what is happening
[02:58] <kadaz> which would be the last backup of xorg.conf
[02:59] <stdin> kadaz: look at the dates on the file, tho it's probably the one with the largest number
[02:59] <evsophomore2009> stdin: when i paste that in there and click enter, it just opens a new line
[02:59] <kadaz> just doing that now :D
[02:59] <evsophomore2009> mike@mike-desktop:/$
[02:59] <stdin> evsophomore2009: good, now try running the command "aim"
[03:00] <evsophomore2009> aim: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:01] <stdin> thugnasty_: try installing "mpg321" and playing the mp3 in that, if that doesn't work, then it could be the file
[03:01] <stdin> evsophomore2009: does it open tho?
[03:01] <evsophomore2009> no
[03:01] <stdin> hmm, you need gtk then
[03:01] <kadaz> brb
[03:02] <evsophomore2009> gtk?
[03:02] <stdin> install the package "libgtk1.2"
[03:02] <stdin> !gtk
[03:02] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[03:02] <evsophomore2009> where can i find this package to install it?
[03:03] <stdin> evsophomore2009: in adept, or on the command line just run "sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2"
[03:03] <thugnasty_> stdin: when I search "mpg321" in adept manager, both files say "BREAK"
[03:03] <evsophomore2009> okay done
[03:03] <evsophomore2009> now what?
[03:03] <stdin> evsophomore2009: try running "aim" again
[03:04] <evsophomore2009> aim: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:04] <stdin> thugnasty_: ok, I have a way to fix your sources.list file, open it up again and I'll give you a good one
[03:04] <Tm_T> evsophomore2009: what you're trying to compile?
[03:04] <Tm_T> evsophomore2009: or you try to run something?
[03:04] <evsophomore2009> im trying to run AIM
[03:05] <stdin> Tm_T: he's trying to install AIM (from a tgz file)
[03:05] <Tm_T> interesting
[03:05] <semistud2354> does anyone know how to transfer files from on feisty computer to another...
[03:05] <semistud2354> one*
[03:06] <thugnasty_> stdin: ok, sources.list is open
[03:06] <semistud2354> its driving me nuts....i already downloaded the nfs
[03:06] <semistud2354> and enabled filesharing on one
[03:06] <Tm_T> evsophomore2009: install kio-apt
[03:07] <Tm_T> evsophomore2009: or, actually, you can use directly packages.ubuntu.com
[03:07] <evsophomore2009> kio-apt is already the newest version.
[03:07] <evsophomore2009> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 159 not upgraded.
[03:07] <stdin> thugnasty_: you on an standard x86 ?
[03:07] <Tm_T> evsophomore2009: ok, open konqueror and type apt:/
[03:07] <semistud2354> anyone have any ideas
[03:07] <thugnasty_> stdin: I believe so
[03:07] <Tm_T> evsophomore2009: and for every missing file try searching
[03:08] <Tm_T> evsophomore2009: in there os packages.ubuntu.com
[03:08] <Tm_T> evsophomore2009: if there is packages providing those files you're missing
[03:08] <evsophomore2009> so what do i type in under packages.ubuntu
[03:08] <Tm_T> evsophomore2009: the missing file and select that you are searching file
[03:09] <stdin> thugnasty_: delete everything in there and paste this one in: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25360/
[03:09] <Tm_T> evsophomore2009: in this case: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
[03:10] <evsophomore2009> it says it cant find it
[03:10] <evsophomore2009> but if its alot of trouble to install AIM than nevermind
[03:10] <Tm_T> evsophomore2009: heh
[03:10] <Tm_T> evsophomore2009: Kopete <3
[03:10] <evsophomore2009> ew
[03:10] <stdin> there are other apps too
[03:10] <stdin> !aim
[03:10] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[03:12] <evsophomore2009> whats the other IM file called?
[03:12] <evsophomore2009> somthing with a P
[03:12] <thugnasty_> stdin: it says that it can't be saved
[03:12] <stdin> thugnasty_: did you open it with kdesu ?
[03:13] <Tm_T> evsophomore2009: Pidgin, it's formerly Gaim
[03:13] <Tm_T> evsophomore2009: try Gaim and Kopete, use whichever you like more
[03:14] <thugnasty_> stdin: ok, it saved this time...now should I try to get that codec?
[03:14] <Tm_T> evsophomore2009: but use day or two, I hated Kopete for years just because it was different =)
[03:14] <thugnasty_> stdin: the original one?
[03:14] <stdin> thugnasty_: first run "sudo apt-get update" to refetch the package list
[03:16] <thugnasty_> ok
[03:17] <stdin> now make sure that libxine-extracodecs is installed again
[03:19] <thugnasty_> stdin: it downloaded successfully this time, what should I do next?
[03:20] <stdin> restart amarok and try playing the file again
[03:20] <evsophomore2009> yeah i really like Gaim!!!
[03:20] <evsophomore2009> alot better than Kopete
[03:22] <thugnasty_> stdin: something still is wrong
[03:22] <stdin> is there any sound?
[03:23] <thugnasty_> stdin: there is no sound
[03:23] <waltercool> how can i enter to default kde system control?
[03:23] <stdin> waltercool: kcontrol?
[03:23] <waltercool> or... system configurator
[03:24] <stdin> thugnasty_: try mpg321, see if that installs
[03:24] <waltercool> but original panel..., kubuntu panel dont have some things
[03:24] <stdin> waltercool: yeah, it's kcontrol, just run that command
[03:25] <waltercool> stdin: oh... thanks u :)
[03:26] <jdmmade> hey there users
[03:26] <jdmmade> I was curious if anyone could teach me how to write to my repository
[03:26] <thugnasty_> stdin: I apologize, but where can I find the file after I have downloaded it?
[03:27] <stdin> thugnasty_: what file?
[03:27] <jdmmade> I want to get skype in there
[03:27] <stdin> !skype
[03:27] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[03:27] <thugnasty_> stdin: mpg321
[03:28] <stdin> thugnasty_: it's a command line app, just run "mpg321 /path/to/file.mp3"
[03:29] <jdmmade> is there anyway to do it through konsole?
[03:30] <thugnasty_> stdin: hrm, it's not running
[03:30] <jdmmade> I need to learn how to add the information to repository manually through konsole
[03:31] <faidillinger> howto suscribe to a mailinglist with kontact
[03:31] <stdin> jdmmade: you can edit the file with nano, ie "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list", tho the easiest waw would be to just run "echo "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list "
[03:31] <stdin> thugnasty_: strange, maybe it's a bad file
[03:31] <stdin> thugnasty_: or it has DRM
[03:33] <thugnasty_> stdin: ok, there has been some progress...I have restarted amarok and now it is playing the songs at a normal speed, only without sound
[03:33] <stdin> thugnasty_: do you get any sounds, ever?
[03:34] <thugnasty_> stdin: yes
[03:34] <stdin> hmm
[03:34] <thugnasty_> stdin: Nevermind, it works now
[03:34] <stdin> heh :p
[03:34] <thugnasty_> stdin: I have absolutely no clue how
[03:34] <stdin> me either, but at least it works now
[03:35] <jdmmade> when I type deb it says command not found
[03:35] <stdin> jdmmade: that's all one command
[03:36] <stdin> jdmmade: "echo deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:36] <lunar-raven> my friend is having trouble booting into his windows partition.  His windows partition is on /dev/hdb1  ... what would that be in grub? hd1,0?
[03:36] <lunar-raven> anyone know?
[03:36] <lunar-raven> :)
[03:37] <jdmmade> hmm
[03:37] <stdin> lunar-raven: depends what's in /boot/grub/device.map
[03:37] <jdmmade> all it did was bring up the dabian file
[03:37] <jdmmade> debian*
[03:37] <lunar-raven> hmm, how would i help him find out?
[03:38] <jdmmade> can I get a hint on how to install it
[03:39] <stdin> jdmmade: you add the repository and do "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install skype"
[03:40] <lem_> list
[03:40] <jdmmade> !list
[03:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:40] <jdmmade> lol
[03:43] <lunar-raven> stdin: his windows is hd1
[03:44] <stdin> then it's (hd1,0) for the 1st partition
[03:45] <jdmmade> sweet
[03:45] <jdmmade> it worked
[03:45] <jdmmade> thanks
[03:46] <jdmmade> hey does annyone know how to set ubuntu to work with my mic
[03:47] <jdmmade> linux is harder then I thought
[03:48] <stdin> make sure it's set to be recorded from, in kmix
[03:48] <jdmmade> stdin
[03:49] <jdmmade> I thank you for your help man
[03:49] <jdmmade> youve been pretty helpful dude
[03:49] <stdin> it's why I'm here :)
[03:49] <lunar-raven> [18:44]  <stdin> then it's (hd1,0) for the 1st partition
[03:49] <lunar-raven> for some reason that didnt work, said invalid partition
[03:49] <lunar-raven> same with hd1,1
[03:49] <lunar-raven> could this be because its windows vista?
[03:49] <hitmanWilly> lunar-raven, are you sure its the second drive?
[03:50] <stdin> hmm, maybe.
[03:51] <hitmanWilly> lunar-raven, oh, vista, nm :)
[03:51] <stdin> I also remember somthing about windows not liking not being on the 1st disk
[03:51] <lunar-raven> heh
[03:53] <hitmanWilly> lunar-raven, there's some specific options grub needs passed to it for win booting, don't remember exactly what atm
[03:53] <stdin> lunar-raven: try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25365/
[03:54] <lunar-raven> thanks
[03:54] <lunar-raven> ill try that
[03:54] <ejm> doh! broadcom cards suck with any kernel above 2.6.15.
[03:55] <jarn> Is there a way to make it so that when I start a new X server NumLock is enabled?
[03:56] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I converted a Qemu raw image (using qemu-img) to a VirtualBox image.  The image is a Windows XP 8 Gig image.  Whenever I try to start it up in VIrtualBox, though, it doesn't work (it goes to a BSOD).  Any ideas on this?
[03:56] <stdin> Ertain: better to ask that in #vbox
[03:56] <jdmmade> hey i am in kmix I am trying hard to get the settings to work
[03:57] <jdmmade> stdin you think you can help me
[03:57] <eljefe> jarn: in KDE there is a start-up numb-lock On/Off... try that yet?
[03:57] <jdmmade> Ill explain what I did
[03:58] <jdmmade> on output I got my mic part green and turned up
[03:58] <jdmmade> input is off
[03:58] <eljefe> Ertain: probably sees VBox as different 'hardware'.... Windows is very specific to what it runs on (it cannot be changed)
[03:58] <jarn> eljefe: Not talking about KDE, but X. Not KDE-specific.
[03:59] <eljefe> jarn: notr sure then, maybe something in xorg.conf
[03:59] <jarn> eljefe: Okay, thanks.
[03:59] <stdin> jdmmade: make sure that the "Input Source" in the "Switches" tab is set to the right source
[03:59] <eljefe> i didn't help! ;)
[03:59] <jdmmade> on switches I have headphone jack mode on headphone out, line jack mode is line in, mic jack mode is line in
[03:59] <jdmmade> input source is cd, and the other is mixer
[03:59] <kadaz> thank you stdin, that worked.
[04:00] <eljefe> jdmmade: the mic is plugged in correctly, right?
[04:00] <eljefe> just gotta be sure
[04:00] <jdmmade> ya
[04:05] <lunar-raven> no go.  he got the error  error in partition 0x7
[04:05] <lunar-raven> error 15
[04:06] <stdin> try "rootnoverify" instead of "root"
[04:06] <stdin> ie: "rootnoverify (hd1,0)
[04:06] <stdin> "
[04:08] <hitmanWilly> IIRC windows also needs the chainloader option
[04:09] <stdin> yep "chainloader +1"
[04:10] <hitmanWilly> heh, been a while since my dual-boot days...
[04:10] <stdin> I dual boot, but not with windows
[04:10] <hitmanWilly> lol
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> BSD or another distro?
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> or mac?
[04:11] <stdin> just kubuntu and debian
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> ah, k
[04:12] <stdin> soon to be kubuntu feisty, debain and kubuntu gutsy
[04:12] <hitmanWilly> :)
[04:12] <stdin> just haven't gotten around to downloading the iso yet
[04:13] <jdmmade> having trouble with my mic crap
[04:14] <michael__> how do i tell what executable a konsole command is calling
[04:14] <michael__> like i want to find whats being executed when i type nes
[04:14] <stdin> what? the location of the file?
[04:15] <Dragnslcr> which nes
[04:15] <Dragnslcr> Will tell you the path
[04:15] <stdin> or "command -V nes" too
[04:15] <stdin> (in bash)
[04:16] <lunar-raven> stdin: how is debian? I use kubuntu..so thats debian based, but ive never tried just plain debian
[04:16] <michael__> thx
[04:16] <Dragnslcr> lunar-raven- it'll be pretty much the same, just with older versions of everything
[04:16] <lunar-raven> ah
[04:16] <michael__> hmm
[04:16] <lunar-raven> lol
[04:16] <michael__> that isnt what i need
[04:16] <stdin> lunar-raven: it's mostly the same, but some things work better in debian, and some don't :p, but debian isn't as uptodate
[04:16] <lunar-raven> I like my software bleeding edge and dangerous
[04:16] <michael__> where is the program stored?
[04:16] <lunar-raven> =)
[04:17] <michael__> it just shows me to /usr/bin/nes
[04:17] <michael__> and i know whats not where its at
[04:17] <Dragnslcr> michael__- uh, yes it is
[04:17] <lunar-raven> lol
[04:17] <Dragnslcr> That sounds like a perfectly reasonable path to the executable
[04:17] <michael__> no thats where all the command line executables are at
[04:17] <jdmmade> can anyone help me and tell me how to setup kmix's output and input to work with skype please
[04:17] <michael__> but i need the actual dir for the program
[04:18] <stdin> michael__: yeah, the executible is in /usr/bin
[04:18] <Dragnslcr> michael__- if /usr/bin/nes is a symlink, you can use ls -al /usr/bin | grep nes
[04:18] <michael__> thx
[04:18] <Dragnslcr> That would show you where the symlink points to
[04:18] <stdin> or just "ls -l /usr/bin/nes"
[04:18] <Dragnslcr> But it may not be a symlink
[04:19] <Jucato> michael__: there is (usually...) no single "actual dir" for a program in Linux
[04:19] <Dragnslcr> Heh, I have the bad habit of using | grep for everything
[04:19] <stdin> I'm like that, but with awk :p
[04:19] <Dragnslcr> Hehe
[04:19] <michael__> yeh it was a symmlink
[04:19] <michael__> thx
[04:20] <Jucato> isn't awk a bit... awkward? :)
[04:20] <stdin> yeah, but it's what I know
[04:20] <lem_> awk is awksome!
[04:27] <Jucato> hush! let people sleep
[04:28] <n8k99> whoa! now that's has nothing to do with awk
[04:29] <stdin> echo coffee|awk '{print "/me gves n8k99 some "$1}' :)
[04:29] <n8k99> lawl
[04:33] <waltercool> kde3.5.7 isn't in adept?
[04:34] <n8k99> you must add a repo for that
[04:34] <Dragnslcr> Don't think so
[04:34] <Dragnslcr> Well, not in the standard repository
[04:34] <n8k99> its listed on kubuntu.org
[04:34] <n8k99> http://kubuntu.org
[04:35] <Dragnslcr> Or follow the link in the topic
[04:35] <Jucato> waltercool: only for Feisty (like I said earlier)
[04:36] <waltercool> but i have Feisty xD
[04:36] <waltercool> and i have 3.5.6 xD
[04:37] <kjdis> I am trying to figure out how/where to launch a program every time either X or the window manager starts, not sure where the right place is actually, anyone know how I can do this?  I thought a quick hack would be to edit the end of S99kdm but that didn't work right, caused the system to hang
[04:38] <kjdis> rc.local, linked as S99, also didn't work
[04:39] <hakaisou> kjdis, are you running 7.04?
[04:39] <kjdis> yup
[04:39] <kjdis> I used to use nvidia proprietary, but this time I wanted to use nvtv
[04:39] <hakaisou> in the K Menu, you should see an icon named "Save Session"
[04:39] <kjdis> ok?
[04:40] <hakaisou> oh...
[04:40] <hakaisou> um... crud
[04:40] <hakaisou> nevermind
[04:40] <kjdis> yeah I need it pre-login :)
[04:40] <hakaisou> out of my league
[04:40] <kjdis> if that's where you were going
[04:40] <hakaisou> yea
[04:40] <kjdis> somehow I need to launch it right after X/kdm fully loads
[04:40] <kjdis> otherwise it hangs system
[04:40] <hakaisou> you said program, so i figured you ment like Pidgin or something
[04:41] <hakaisou> hmmm
[04:41] <kjdis> yeah many ppl think that, it's common to think of using the "on login" methods, there are a few
[04:41] <hakaisou> i don't know how you could do that
[04:41] <kjdis> ppl on the net in posts have stated using those startup scripts, but they hang for me
[04:42] <kjdis> a really dirty hack would be a timed script, have it wait like 5 mins or something and then launch, when everything is def'n loaded
[04:42] <kjdis> OR, maybe in rc.local it's running with the wrong priviledges?
[04:43] <n8k99> kjdis: just for clarity' s sake, what excatly are you trying to do?
[04:43] <kjdis> but I doubt wrong priviledges would hang the system, I think it's more likely that nvtv tries to do things to the video card before the nv driver is loaded, and that prob causes the hang
[04:43] <kjdis> I want nvtv to run pre-login to have tv-out
[04:44] <kjdis> I setup a box for my friend, he only has an older TV in his living room, it crashed so I am reinstalling, in the past I used nvidia proprietary for tv-out but now I wanna use nvtv
[04:44] <kjdis> he watches movies and stuff, and occasional very basic (and hard to read) web browsing :)
[04:45] <n8k99> why does this have to start before you login to a KDE session?
[04:45] <kjdis> Because he can't login without seeing the screen
[04:45] <kjdis> there'll be no monitor at all
[04:46] <n8k99> oh i see, instead of having a monitor your friend is using a tv
[04:46] <kjdis> yup
[04:46] <n8k99> gotcha
[04:46] <kjdis> I really wanna make this work rather than give in and do nvidia binary, nvtv is better, because I can turn the tv on/off at will, and not have to modify X conf at all
[04:47] <n8k99> can you just control the machine remotely, in order to boot/login?
[04:47] <kjdis> so for example, I could take his system away from the TV to troubleshoot, and jsyut connect to a monitor
[04:47] <kjdis> he won't know how to do anything even slightly advances
[04:47] <kjdis> I guess I COULD ask him to just type his password before he sees the screen
[04:48] <kjdis> but that could get annoying, because I've noticed that for some reason the first keystroke is ignored
[04:48] <Dragnslcr> If you find anything out, let me know. I'd like to have my bluetooth keyboard working before I login
[04:48] <kjdis> well nvtv can be launched remotely, from any shell, and it fires out to TV
[04:48] <kjdis> so, I could use the dirty timer hack I guess
[04:49] <Qarl> Is it possible to make KMail _only_ check my IMAP inbox on interval? (and _not_ all of my folders)
[04:49] <n8k99> you may need to do just that kjdis
[04:49] <kjdis> just for the hell of it I'll try that now, I could write a timer/sleep script, but can cron run a job n amount of time after every boot?
[04:50] <n8k99> i think its the other cron, acron or something like that that is dependent upon system uptime
[04:50] <n8k99> anacron maybe
[04:50] <Jucato> acorn
[04:50] <Jucato> :)
[04:51] <kjdis> anacron
[04:52] <kjdis> anacron doesn't quite fit the bill
[04:52] <kjdis> Anacron  can  be  used  to  execute  commands  periodically, with a frequency specified in days.  Unlike
[04:52] <kjdis>        cron(8), it does not assume that the machine is running continuously.  Hence, it can be used on machines
[04:52] <kjdis>        that  arent  running  24  hours a day
[04:52] <n8k99> Qarl: try to edit the IMAP folder properties, it should give tyou that option
[04:53] <n8k99> kjdis: i knew it was one way or the other, just wasn't positive
[04:53] <n8k99> Qarl: right-button click on the folder
[04:54] <Qarl> n8k99: Thanks.  Do you mean 'Act on new/unread mail in this folder?'  Because, right now they are all disabled except for my inbox, but it still checks everything
[04:54] <kjdis> if nvtv doesn't mind being run over and over, I can just use a stupid anacron hack and let it re-execute regardless
[04:55] <n8k99> Qarl: i thought that there was a right button menu for the IMAP folder that lets you change the properties
[04:55] <n8k99> you may have to edit the account itself to change teh frequency
[04:56] <kjdis> "at" might work
[04:57] <Qarl> n8k99: Yeah, I did right click on folder -> properties -> general -> act on...
[04:58] <n8k99> Qarl: then you'll have to Configure Kmail > Accounts > set update frequency
[04:58] <n8k99> kjdis: how often does your friend turn on his computer?
[04:59] <visham> hi folks
[04:59] <Qarl> n8k99: Yeah, it's set at 10 minutes right now.  It's doing the interval checking fine, but it checks all my folders, which takes a long time.
[04:59] <visham> has anyone found problems with the OS scanning feature in nmap 4.2?
[04:59] <Qarl> Maybe it's because I'm using disconnected IMAP...
[04:59] <n8k99> Qarl: are all of your folders in IMAP?
[04:59] <Qarl> n8k99: Most of them
[04:59] <n8k99> all off the same Account?
[04:59] <Qarl> Yeah
[05:00] <n8k99> then you can only chagne the freqency of the account in kmail
[05:00] <visham> "nmap -T4 -sS -O scanme.nmap.org" this command causes my internet connection to break down after nmap has finished to around 70%
[05:00] <visham> what is the problem
[05:02] <FrYGuY101> Anybody good with wireless willing to help figure out why my Intel Pro/WIRELESS 2200bg doesn't want to seem to want to work?
[05:03] <n8k99> !wireless
[05:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:15] <visham> any nmap folks
[05:15] <visham> solve my problem pls
[05:18] <kjdis> Here's another question, how can I run a  program every time someone (or a specific user would do) logs OUT?
[05:18] <ubuntu> I would like to restore my windows xp but ever since i installed ubuntu i cant can someone help me
[05:18] <stdin> kjdis: put the command(s) in ~/.bash_logout
[05:19] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  restore in what way? ya got a GRUB entry for it in the boot menu?
[05:19] <ubuntu> every time i get to the end of the system restore it goes to create a user partion but it fails to do so
[05:19] <kjdis> .bash_logout?  that applies to someone logging out of kdm?
[05:20] <kjdis> GDM has a PostSession thing I guess?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> systemrestore? what is this under?
[05:20] <cotyrothery> Dr_willis: what do you mean
[05:20] <cotyrothery> i want to reinstall windows xp
[05:20] <rodrigo> hello
[05:20] <stdin> kjdis: well, when they logout (of kde) it is run, BUT it will also run when they close a terminal too
[05:21] <Dr_willis> cotyrothery,  you want to totally REMOVE linux?
[05:21] <rodrigo> can I install windows programs in kubuntu?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> !wine
[05:21] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:21] <kjdis> I wonder if I can handle startup in startkde?
[05:21] <cpk1> rodrigo: some, with wine
[05:21] <rodrigo> yep I try it
[05:21] <kjdis> I guess startkde might get modified at some point, while rc.local is all mine
[05:21] <cotyrothery> Dr_willis: yeah so that i can install windows then install ubuntu again and have dual boot
[05:21] <rodrigo> but I don't know how to run the programs
[05:21] <Dr_willis> cotyrothery,  use the live cd, delete the existing linux partitions.
[05:21] <rodrigo> I install a demo of photoshop
[05:21] <cotyrothery> Dr_willis: i have
[05:21] <rodrigo> but I don't know where to find
[05:22] <visham> help regarding via-diag
[05:22] <rodrigo> the exe
[05:22] <rodrigo> file
[05:22] <Dr_willis> cotyrothery,  then install windows, resize its partitions if it sets them up wrong. install linux.
[05:22] <cotyrothery> Dr_willis: i even formated it to ftfs
[05:22] <cotyrothery> Dr_willis: its not that easy
[05:22] <Dr_willis> rodrigo,   when you 'wine setup.exe' it normally installs stuff to the .wine/SOMTHING/dir
[05:22] <rodrigo> ik let me see
[05:22] <cotyrothery> Dr_willis: i dont understand but i have done every type of formating but it cant create user partion
[05:22] <rodrigo> where I find that folder?
[05:22] <semistud2354> does anyone know how to transfer files from one feisty computer to another...
[05:22] <Dr_willis> cotyrothery,    i perfer to have linux on its own HD. makes it much easier. :)
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> rodrigo, i don't think photoshop works in wine atm...you may want to try Gimp
[05:23] <Dr_willis> rodrigo,  in the users homedir.
[05:23] <semistud2354> its driving me nuts....i already downloaded the nfs
[05:23] <stdin> kjdis: what you could do, to handle the .bash_logout right, is to just check for $DISPLAY and do nothing if it's set
[05:23] <rodrigo> thanks Dr_willis
[05:23] <evsophomore2009> Okay guys, i had everything perfect, and boom my computer crashed
[05:23] <evsophomore2009> I need help installing Firefox, and Flash
[05:23] <cotyrothery> Dr_willis: so how am i going to fix this problem
[05:23] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  could use ssh,
[05:23] <cotyrothery> becuase i need windows
[05:23] <semistud2354> ssh
[05:23] <cotyrothery> I wont to play wow
[05:23] <semistud2354> from adept
[05:23] <cpk1> rodrigo: go to winehq.org and look at the app database for the program you are trying to use, it should say what you need to do
[05:23] <stdin> semistud2354: there's ssh, ftp, http, samba, nfs ........
[05:24] <Dr_willis> cotyrothery, you are using some sort of 'system recovery' cd to restore windows? or a Actual XP install cd?
[05:24] <semistud2354> so...the package is called ssh
[05:24] <semistud2354> is that a plugin or a program on its own
[05:24] <stdin> semistud2354: yeah, install the package "ssh"
[05:24] <Dr_willis> !ssh
[05:24] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:24] <Dr_willis> scp is handy. :)
[05:24] <kjdis> stdin: maybe I'll do the $DISPLAY thing, but then again, I just want this to work, and unless I am there, my friend will never use the shell
[05:24] <Theresa> hey folks. Quick question: If i'm not messing with sourcecode, do i need the Sources repositores?
[05:24] <stdin> Dr_willis: so is fish:/
[05:24] <cotyrothery> Dr_willis: a restore cd
[05:24] <semistud2354> ok lemme get i
[05:24] <semistud2354> it
[05:24] <stdin> Theresa: no, not really
[05:25] <Dr_willis> cotyrothery,  delete all the partitions on the hd. so its 100% unalocated perhaps. and try again.
[05:25] <cotyrothery> but i've done that
[05:25] <Bearcat> stdin: thanks
[05:25] <knapp> How can I force my cdrom to eject, even if it is in use?
[05:25] <cpk1> cotyrothery: btw last i checked wow worked with wine
[05:25] <kjdis> I am already gonna use one dirty hack to launch nvtv, might as well use anothwer to keep it working, see when the guy logs out the TV goes screwy, not sure why but logging out messes up nvtv and it needs to run again for the login screen to be visible again
[05:25] <stdin> kjdis: just put the command inside a simple if statement
[05:25] <Dr_willis> cotyrothery,  sounds like a stupid restore cd. Not a Linux issue. cant really help ya much more then that. what brand pc is this?
[05:26] <fryguy_> Hrm. Okay. So, my wireless card is working. My wireless card can see the Access point. I have WPA supplicant installed. WPA supplicant supports my card. But I can't connect with it, still...
[05:26] <cotyrothery> Dr_willis: HP
[05:26] <knapp> nevermind
[05:26] <stdin> kjdis: like, if [ -z $DISPLAY ] ;then run this command...;fi
[05:26] <cotyrothery> cpk1: yea but it is way to much for me to set up
[05:26] <semistud2354> ok i got ssh
[05:26] <kjdis> ideally I'd like it to work for every user though, in case he creates an account for his girlfriend or something stupid like that heh
[05:26] <semistud2354> now what
[05:26] <Dr_willis> cotyrothery,  may want to check the HP site/forums/support on the proper way to restore a system with those cd's
[05:26] <kjdis> stdin: I may use your idea, thanks
[05:26] <n8k99> kjdis: you have it working?
[05:26] <semistud2354> i went clicked on remote
[05:27] <semistud2354> and samba
[05:27] <semistud2354> and nothing
[05:27] <stdin> semistud2354: it's ssh, not samba
[05:27] <Dr_willis> samba is not the same as ssh :)
[05:27] <semistud2354> o
[05:27] <cotyrothery> for some reason when i do use wine with wow its really slow
[05:27] <semistud2354> so what do i do no
[05:27] <stdin> semistud2354: just go to "fish:/(IP address of remote host)"
[05:27] <semistud2354> now
[05:27] <Bearcat> Dr_willis: thank goodness for that!
[05:28] <stdin> semistud2354: the remote host is the computer with ssh installed
[05:28] <Dr_willis> cotyrothery,  theres proberly a dozen+ tweaks ya can do to help it out. But I dont mess with WoW any more.
[05:28] <kjdis> n8k99: I haven't tested the "at" upon boot solution yet
[05:28] <n8k99> good luck
[05:29] <semistud2354> so if i want to use this computer to connect to another computer
[05:29] <semistud2354> i put ssh on this or the other computer
[05:29] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,   install ssh on both systems
[05:29] <semistud2354> ok
[05:29] <semistud2354> one sec
[05:29] <cpk1> cotyrothery: have you tried using opengl with wow in wine?
[05:29] <stdin> semistud2354: you put ssh on the computer you want to connect to, the ssh packages is actually the SERVER, you already have the client installed
[05:30] <cotyrothery> cpk1 no why
[05:30] <Dr_willis> cotyrothery,  because that will make it faster
[05:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:30] <kjdis> hmm, I just discovered kde
[05:30] <kjdis> kde's Xstartup, Xreset, etc
[05:31] <cotyrothery> Dr_willis: so how do i get opengl
[05:31] <cpk1> cotyrothery: DX rendering is almost always terrible in linux, opengl should make a huge difference
[05:31] <knapp> I'm installing an app through wine that has multiple CDs. When it asks for disk 2, how do I eject the disc and mount the next one so that the app can detect it?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> cotyrothery,  i would say - go to the wine forums/sites/google for it. and find the info. I dont mess with WoW any more.
[05:31] <Bearcat> yanno, i have to say that so far if i was gonna run a binary distro, this one is the one i would choose.
[05:32] <Dr_willis> knapp,  often ive had to copy the data from all the cd's to a single "installdir" and run wine setup.exe from that dir.
[05:32] <semistud2354> ok
[05:32] <semistud2354> then i do the fish
[05:32] <cpk1> cotyrothery: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft scroll down to configuration
[05:32] <knapp> man, I knew I should have done that from the get go.
[05:32] <semistud2354> with ssh installed on the other computer
[05:32] <Dr_willis> knapp,  also ive had some games not install right when you cd to the cd, then run wine.exe since wine has the cd locked  .. do wine /path/to/cd/setup.exe instead
[05:32] <cotyrothery> guess im stuck with linux only
[05:32] <knapp> ok, thanks willis
[05:32] <cpk1> also you can try wine eject if you need to eject the cd
[05:33] <cotyrothery> not that that is bad
[05:33] <stdin> semistud2354: yeah, like "fish://user@192.168.0.2"
[05:33] <semistud2354> i do that with konqueror???
[05:33] <stdin> semistud2354: yeah, unless you want to use the commandline that is
[05:35] <semistud2354> so now its askin me for a password...i dont know of any passwords that i put
[05:36] <Dr_willis> it wants the user name/password on the other box. You dont even know your own login password?
[05:36] <semistud2354> yea
[05:36] <stdin> it's your users password, you are actually logging in to the other computer
[05:36] <semistud2354> i put it in
[05:36] <semistud2354> hmmmm
[05:37] <semistud2354> i see what i did wrong
[05:37] <semistud2354> my bad
[05:37] <jdmmade> anyone here can help me with kmix and skype?
[05:38] <semistud2354> man i wish filesharing on linux was as easy as windows
[05:38] <semistud2354> i mean....share some files and go to network
[05:39] <stdin> there's samba for that, but it needs some configuring, and is less secure
[05:39] <semistud2354> this works good....but its the fact that i hate saying "linux cant do that"
[05:39] <stdin> well "linux can do it"
[05:39] <semistud2354> to someone who uses microsoft
[05:39] <semistud2354> how do you do that
[05:39] <jdmmade> stdin are you still available to help me out dude?
[05:39] <kadaz> how to diable wallet?
[05:40] <kadaz> oh hi guys.
[05:40] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  i can get samba set up under linux to windows in about.. say.. 2 min.. or less...
[05:40] <cpk1> semistud2354: there is a really easy applet to share stuff in kde
[05:40] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  its rather trivial once ya learn what you need to do.
[05:40] <stdin> jdmmade: im not so good at sound/audio, took me ages to get my mic working once, and i'm not sure how i did it
[05:40] <semistud2354> i mean...i can connect to my windows computer..no problem
[05:40] <Dr_willis> isntall samba, edit the samba.conf - add the users smbpasswds, restart service.. :) done.
[05:40] <semistud2354> the problem comes when i want to connect linux to linux
[05:40] <jdmmade> haha thanks anyway
[05:41] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  set up same linux user/passwords and 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME password' the same on both box's
[05:41] <Bearcat> hey folks. Is there anything in kubuntu that can read .pps files?
[05:41] <Bearcat> it's a power point slide show
[05:41] <cpk1> semistud2354: right click > properties... go to the sharing tab and start the applet... it can be that easy
[05:41] <jdmmade> hey what is the red light under capture stdin?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  of course for linux to linux, ssh and scp is  perhaps easier.. You may want to check out 'smb4k' also - its a handy samba browser tool.
[05:42] <semistud2354> wait
[05:42] <stdin> Bearcat: ahh, OOo Presentation should
[05:42] <semistud2354> i did that
[05:42] <Bearcat> stdin: i kpresenter doesn't like it.
[05:42] <semistud2354> i shared my file
[05:42] <semistud2354> and it doesnt show up on samba
[05:43] <stdin> jdmmade: I think that means that it will record from it
[05:43] <semistud2354> i clicked to the nfs and samba
[05:43] <Dr_willis> i normally just share the HOMES directories
[05:43] <cpk1> semistud2354: you shared it using the kde applet?
[05:43] <semistud2354> yea
[05:43] <Bearcat> but i'll update this thing overnight and see what happens next time i'm here
[05:43] <cpk1> the kde applet isnt a samba share...
[05:43] <semistud2354> right click>properties>sharing
[05:43] <semistud2354> thats what i did
[05:44] <semistud2354> that doesnt work??????
[05:44] <Dr_willis> heh - thers the user-friendly way.. then the old-skool way. ;)
[05:44] <Dr_willis> I do it old-skool
[05:44] <cpk1> yeah so point the browser on the other box to either the sharing ones hostname or ip
[05:44] <stdin> Bearcat: openoffice.org-impress should open most power point files
[05:44] <cpk1> Dr_willis: this is for quick and easy, I want to grab something from that box and I already need to be out the door =)
[05:44] <stdin> semistud2354: you installed samba 1st?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  heh scp :)
[05:45] <Dr_willis> usb-thumb-drive@! :)
[05:45] <semistud2354> i think samba comes preinstalled on feisty
[05:45] <Bearcat> stdin: thanks
[05:45] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  i dont think it does.
[05:45] <Bearcat> later all
[05:45] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install samba   - and see. :)
[05:45] <stdin> semistud2354: the client, yes. but not the server
[05:45] <semistud2354> o
[05:46] <semistud2354> whats the package called
[05:46] <stdin> samba
[05:46] <semistud2354> samba-package
[05:46] <cpk1> you dont need samba though semistud2354 if you are using the method I just described
[05:46] <Dr_willis> rember kids - thers always 12+ ways to do ANYTHING in linux. :) thats what makes it so cool.
[05:47] <semistud2354> im just curous if its possible to make the connection between linux box and linux box similer to the way file transer is on windows to windows
[05:47] <stdin> yeah, samba
[05:47] <stdin> or nfs
[05:47] <semistud2354> i got nfs
[05:47] <semistud2354> and i have samba-client
[05:47] <semistud2354> i think
[05:47] <cpk1> I dunno how it is on windows so I couldnt say hehe
[05:47] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  you can set up samba, or nfs todo that rather easially.  but theres the 'user' way. and the 'system admin' way :)
[05:47] <G3NESIS> Can someone please help. I need to type in Japanese.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> or install ssh onboth box's and use the konqueror fish:/ stuff
[05:47] <semistud2354> whats the difference
[05:48] <Dr_willis> one way is to install the samba server, confgure it.  use it :) with smb:/ or some other samba browser
[05:48] <cpk1> G3NESIS: you need to get anthy and a scim I think...
[05:48] <stdin> nfs is a more advanced way than samba, it supports more "linux features"
[05:49] <stdin> !nfs
[05:49] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:49] <stdin> !samba
[05:49] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:49] <Dr_willis> !fish
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <stdin> it's a kio-slave
[05:49] <Dr_willis> i can neer rember the syntax for the fish:/ thing
[05:49] <stdin> it's fish://user@host/path
[05:49] <G3NESIS> Thanks CPKL.
[05:49] <kadaz> ok
[05:49] <Dr_willis> aha 2 /'s
[05:49] <G3NESIS> SCIM is what I needed.
[05:50] <kadaz> whew
[05:50] <stdin> or even fish://user:password@host/path
[05:50] <Dr_willis> fish:/bubba@remotebox/home
[05:50] <semistud2354> ok so how do i make connecting from linux to linux more similer to that of windows
[05:50] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  install samba on both box's set up where HOMES are shared. is how i do it.
[05:50] <semistud2354> how do you set up where homes are shared
[05:51] <Dr_willis> then install smb4k  (normally) thers other samba browser things ya can use like konqueror and smb:/
[05:51] <Dr_willis> the samba.conf file has that info. ya uncomment a few lines
[05:51] <Dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[05:51] <ubotu> samba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 6754 kB, installed size 14512 kB
[05:51] <stdin> or just install swat
[05:51] <stdin> !swat
[05:51] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:51] <jdmmade> IM DID IT STDIN!!!!!
[05:51] <Dr_willis> samba-doc has a lot of nice docs.
[05:51] <jdmmade> YAY!
[05:51] <Dr_willis> swat is a bit of .. annoyance in ways. :)
[05:51] <jdmmade> I am finally learning linux!!
[05:51] <jdmmade> :D
[05:51] <jdmmade> HEHE
[05:51] <cpk1> ugh swat
[05:52] <stdin> jdmmade: now just don't change any settings, ever. and you'll be set :p
[05:52] <kadaz> can I ask a question
[05:52] <Dr_willis> kde has a samba-config tool. I forget what packagte its in.
[05:52] <stdin> !ask | kadaz
[05:52] <ubotu> kadaz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:52] <jdmmade> LMAO thats so true!
[05:52] <Dr_willis> !find samba
[05:52] <ubotu> Found: dpsyco-samba, egroupware-sambaadmin, gsambad, xffm4-samba, python-samba (and 6 others)
[05:52] <kadaz> :D
[05:52] <semistud2354> whats the way thats closest to windows
[05:53] <kadaz> alternate background  in lists, I see no option to select same as forground.
[05:53] <stdin> jdmmade: sound is one of those things that is just more difficult on linux
[05:53] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  set up the home shares.. use smb4k works for me.
[05:53] <semistud2354> you guys said like 10 things
[05:53] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  'closet to windows' is meaningless to most of us. :)
[05:53] <semistud2354> lol
[05:53] <semistud2354> srry
[05:53] <Dr_willis> my 'samba shares' show up as a directory in my users home dir. (under smb4k) i can access them as if theyt were local dirs.
[05:54] <Dr_willis> OR ya can use konqueror's remote feature and the smb:/  address in konqueror.
[05:54] <jdmmade> LMAO i used skype to call someone at denny's and ask if they do the grandslam special in the afternoons LMAO
[05:54] <Dr_willis> which works fine for most people
[05:54] <semistud2354> well...is ther anyway were you can click on some network icon and it serches for computer
[05:54] <semistud2354> s
[05:54] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  smb:/ for the 3th time.. or smb4k
[05:55] <Dr_willis> ;0
[05:55] <jdmmade> anyone know the font for apple OS X
[05:55] <semistud2354> ok ima go with that
[05:55] <semistud2354> do i need that on both boxes
[05:55] <semistud2354> or on this computer
[05:55] <Dr_willis> need what?
[05:55] <semistud2354> smb4k
[05:55] <stdin> samba ^
[05:56] <Dr_willis> smb4k is a samba share browser. Nothing to do with a 'server' it browses/scans for servers
[05:56] <Dr_willis> you will need samba setup on the servers for it to see them
[05:56] <semistud2354> cuz i shared a file on my other comp, and used samba....but nothing showed up
[05:56] <stdin> just install samba and smb4k on both
[05:56] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  that menu/share thing.. is Not using samba i belive.. its using some 'other' method.
[05:57] <semistud2354> o
[05:57] <semistud2354> how do i share a file
[05:57] <semistud2354> on my comp
[05:57] <cpk1> put it in whichever directory is being shared
[05:57] <stdin> short answer is: there is no short answer
[05:57] <stdin> there are many different ways
[05:58] <semistud2354> lmao
[05:58] <Dr_willis> install ssh on  both box's - fire up konqueror. use the fish:/ thing we mentioned earlier is the Easiest way to get a few files back and forth.
[05:58] <semistud2354> man...
[05:58] <semistud2354> yea
[05:58] <cpk1> semistud2354: if you used the right click menu go to the computers ip:8001 port 8001 is default for the kde app
[05:59] <stdin> plus, http is a bit bloated for file sharing IMO
[05:59] <haiyah> hi i'm trying to clone this harddisk to another harddisk, and making it bootable.. so i mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/clone , and editted /mnt/clone/etc/lilo.conf into from sda to sdb.. but after i run chroot /mnt/clone/ /sbin/lilo , it complains that its not the first harddisk
[05:59] <semistud2354> so lemme get this down,,, get ssh...then fish:/user@111.111.1.1
[05:59] <haiyah> and i'll get into kernerl panic.. the only way is to boot up the new set with cd, and do the chroot
[06:00] <stdin> semistud2354: two slashes
[06:00] <haiyah> is there a way to make the other harddisk bootable with lilo
[06:00] <stdin> semistud2354: fish://user@host
[06:00] <semistud2354> mybad
[06:00] <semistud2354> ok
[06:00] <semistud2354> see im trying to start a linux revolution
[06:00] <semistud2354> well...atleas push for one
[06:01] <cpk1> haha
[06:01] <semistud2354> and i want to be able to cover all....why "windows is better" comments
[06:01] <semistud2354> thats ppl ask me
[06:01] <Dr_willis> ask them to define 'better'
[06:02] <semistud2354> dude....
[06:02] <semistud2354> thats actually a good comment
[06:02] <semistud2354> lol
[06:02] <Dr_willis> I take my Linux laptop to work.. and people get amazed at how i can make it dance and sing. :)
[06:02] <semistud2354> usually i get something along the lines of easier
[06:02] <Dr_willis> and thats not even on a network.
[06:03] <Dr_willis> easier is not better.. if that was the case. we would all still be using DOS.
[06:03] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:03] <stdin> Dr_willis: I did that the other day, and got 3 converts :)
[06:03] <semistud2354> amen
[06:03] <semistud2354> lol
[06:03] <semistud2354> i carry around my linux book like a bible
[06:03] <semistud2354> its my religion
[06:04] <Dr_willis> windows 'users' are blinded to all the stuff that computers can do. :) they just think in windows-terms.
[06:04] <avalos> buenas noches, como estan??
[06:04] <cpk1> personally I think ubuntu is really easy
[06:04] <semistud2354> yea
[06:04] <semistud2354> i like ubuntu
[06:04] <cpk1> i mean look at how you install stuff
[06:04] <Dr_willis> ubuntu is very easy to get going.
[06:04] <stdin> hehe, I had to explain that linux was free, and it wasn't a coppied/pirated cd I was using too :P
[06:04] <semistud2354> have you guys heard about the linux virus
[06:04] <rodrigo_> chat en espaol
[06:05] <Dr_willis> stdin,  i was handing out OpenOffice cd's to these guys.. they thought it was warez :) lol
[06:05] <stdin> !es | rodrigo__
[06:05] <ubotu> rodrigo__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:05] <semistud2354> have you guys heard about it
[06:05] <stdin> Dr_willis: I had comments like "but I can't register it can I?" :p
[06:05] <semistud2354> ??
[06:05] <semistud2354> http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/security/0,39044215,62020320,00.htm
[06:05] <semistud2354> i saw it on linux.org
[06:06] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  thats technicially an 'openoffice' worm not a Linux virus.
[06:06] <stdin> ahh, but it won't really hurt your system, and you have to actually open the "infected" document to get it
[06:07] <Dr_willis> A new worm is being distributed within malicious OpenOffice documents.
[06:07] <semistud2354> so....should i get rid of openoffice
[06:07] <Dr_willis> do what you want..
[06:07] <semistud2354> lol
[06:07] <semistud2354> i mean i dont want my shit messed with
[06:07] <Dr_willis> its not like you are gong to get it by writing your own docs.
[06:08] <NickPresta> semistud2354, as is the rule with everything on the internet - don't download or execute anything you don't trust. You wouldn't download a random OOo document and open it, would it? If you don't do that, then you should be fine.
[06:08] <stdin> it's not like you're running IE, you probably won't ever see the worm, and if you do it will only effect your user
[06:08] <Dr_willis> then dont open  openoffice docs you dont know where they come from.
[06:09] <semistud2354> man..i thought linux was like....ristant to problems like that
[06:09] <stdin> yeah, it is
[06:09] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  its an Openoffice issue. Not a linux issue
[06:09] <NickPresta> It isn't a problem with linux, semistud2354, it's a problem with OOo
[06:09] <stdin> and the patch will be out soon, if not already
[06:10] <Dr_willis> its just another silly macro worm.
[06:10] <semistud2354> lets just say if i am dumb enough to open an OOo file sent to me
[06:10] <semistud2354> what will it do
[06:10] <Dr_willis> go listen to that song by weird al - called 'virus alert' it will do all that...
[06:10] <semistud2354> i didnt really get what it did
[06:10] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: Probably open
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Which album?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> "Straight out of linwood" :)
[06:11] <stdin> semistud2354: or just do "find ~ -type f -name "badbunny.p*" -exec rm {} \; "
[06:11] <stdin> that will remove it :p
[06:12] <Dr_willis> http://www.myspace.com/weirdal
[06:12] <semistud2354> do it just makes a file...
[06:12] <semistud2354> it just makes a file????
[06:12] <NickPresta> semistud2354, read this for information: http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=announce&msgNo=287
[06:12] <Dr_willis> google/search/read/learn :0
[06:12] <stdin> semistud2354: yeah, read the bottom of the link you gave, it creates 2 files
[06:12] <Dr_willis> I perfer abiword. :)
[06:13] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: you are worried about badbunny? thats so cute :
[06:13] <stdin> heh, I just use kate :)
[06:13] <Dr_willis> 'codename stinky cheese'
[06:13] <semistud2354> OMG THE ONLY THING IT DOES IS MAKES 2 FILES
[06:13] <semistud2354> what the hell is the point of that
[06:14] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  no idea.. dont know, dont care. :)
[06:14] <Dr_willis> infect other ooo docs is my guess
[06:14] <stdin> to scare windows users and make them renew that anti-virus subscription
[06:14] <semistud2354> lol
[06:14] <semistud2354> lol
[06:14] <semistud2354> ha ha linux doesnt need virus software
[06:14] <nixternal> hey, I just noticed my connection link for eth0 is comes up as 10MB Auto Duplex, anyone know how to fix this?
[06:15] <semistud2354> but yet....nod 32 still makes a linux verson of the program
[06:15] <jdmmade> really stud?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> nod32 ? never heard of them
[06:15] <jdmmade> i thought only windows
[06:15] <jdmmade> hmmm
[06:15] <Dr_willis> a macro worm - isent a virus/issue with the OS. its a issue with the program.
[06:15] <semistud2354> http://www.eset.com/products/linux.php
[06:16] <stdin> clamav is a linux AV program, it just scans for windows viruses, only useful for files servers serving windows clients
[06:16] <jdmmade> hey stud do you know a really good linux game that has online capabilities
[06:16] <jdmmade> LIKE a GOOOD GAME
[06:16] <Dr_willis> rtcw:ET is great
[06:16] <semistud2354> yea....starcraft
[06:16] <semistud2354> works almost perfectly on wine
[06:16] <semistud2354> lol
[06:16] <stdin> can't beat frozen-bubble :)
[06:16] <Dr_willis> UrbanTerror is also great.
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> about the only use i see for linux AV software is if you're running a mailserver or the like off of a linux machine
[06:16] <DaSkreech> !virus
[06:16] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[06:17] <semistud2354> whats better opengl...or direct x
[06:17] <semistud2354> what you guys thing
[06:17] <semistud2354> think
[06:17] <Dr_willis> use opengl with wine
[06:17] <stdin> opengl
[06:17] <semistud2354> you think games...if they were made for open gl....would run better
[06:17] <jdmmade> where can I get return to rtcw?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: depends
[06:18] <DaSkreech> jdmmade: a store
[06:18] <Dr_willis> rtcw:et is free
[06:18] <jdmmade> O i thought it was a free linux version or something
[06:18] <jdmmade> O it is?!
[06:18] <jdmmade> cool where?
[06:18] <hikaricore> but not the singleplayer game
[06:18] <hikaricore> only the muliplayer version
[06:18] <semistud2354> whats the thing unreal ppl made
[06:19] <Dr_willis> !rtcw
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rtcw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <DaSkreech> Unreal tournament
[06:19] <Dr_willis> theres a ubuntu games wiki page.
[06:19] <Dr_willis> !games
[06:19] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[06:19] <DaSkreech> 2007 is coming out next year :-(
[06:19] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: It's in Portugese
[06:19] <semistud2354> like the unreal engine can run on windows and linux
[06:19] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: yes
[06:19] <DaSkreech> so can the doom engine
[06:19] <DaSkreech>  so can the quake engine
[06:19] <Dr_willis> CUBE :0
[06:19] <DaSkreech> and ogre
[06:19] <DaSkreech> and cube
[06:19] <Dr_willis> saurbratten
[06:20] <semistud2354> but thats because they made there own version of directx
[06:20] <semistud2354> right??
[06:20] <Minataku> Tuxracer
[06:20] <Minataku> :D
[06:20] <semistud2354> i think i got my facts right
[06:20] <Dr_willis> hmm.. they ported the game to OPENGL. not directx
[06:20] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: no they just use smarter technologies
[06:20] <Dr_willis> i think.
[06:20] <hikaricore> You can find info on Enemy Territory in the fps section of gwos as well: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/FPS_Games
[06:20] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: directx is a set of tools one of which is Direct3D
[06:20] <Dr_willis> use opengl, works on windows and linux..  :)  makes it better
[06:21] <DaSkreech> OpenGL is the equivalent of direct3d but doesn't replavce the rest of directX
[06:21] <Dr_willis> hay Minataku
[06:21] <DaSkreech> however directX only works on Windows and only works for so long
[06:21] <Dr_willis> and DirectX is stinky!
[06:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:21] <semistud2354> like...whats the MAIN reason games dont come out on linux
[06:21] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  the develppers dont want to port them to linux.
[06:22] <hikaricore> opengl and openal replace directx quite nicely
[06:22] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: it's not all that bad ... anymore :)
[06:22] <hikaricore> ..
[06:22] <semistud2354> some ppl say its cost
[06:22] <evsophomore2009> Daskreech: I have a problem
[06:22] <DaSkreech> hikaricore: No. You still need directinput
[06:22] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  its always about cost of course.
[06:22] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: ok we may havea solution :)
[06:22] <hikaricore> pfft
[06:22] <hikaricore> screw directinput
[06:22] <evsophomore2009> i was trying to install Java 6, and my download quit at 30%
[06:22] <DaSkreech> hikaricore: I agree
[06:22] <hikaricore> a bash script can provide input
[06:22] <hikaricore> :P
[06:22] <evsophomore2009> i had everything perfect, and then my computer crashed
[06:23] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: Didn't we do this already? :)
[06:23] <stdin> evsophomore2009: use the ubuntu package
[06:23] <semistud2354> if more games came out on linux microsoft would be screwed
[06:23] <semistud2354> is there like a webpage of all the games playable on linux
[06:23] <semistud2354> ???
[06:23] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: Not really but they would certainly be wearing a lot more wet pants
[06:23] <Dr_willis> games are not the end-all-reason for computers to exist
[06:23] <hikaricore> microsoft propganda is the reason more games don't come out in linux
[06:23] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: Impossible!!!!
[06:23] <evsophomore2009> Daskreech: yes we did
[06:23] <Dr_willis> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php
[06:23] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: http://hapypenguin.org :-)
[06:24] <evsophomore2009> and everything was deleted
[06:24] <hikaricore> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Native_Games  //  http://www.happypenguin.org/
[06:24] <stdin> semistud2354: http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php is probably close
[06:24] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: no but they drive innovation and adoption
[06:24] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  innovation.. heh.. for more game power! its like cocaine!
[06:24] <Dr_willis> :0
[06:24] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: .NET 3.0 and DirectX 10 are Vista only
[06:24] <hikaricore> .NET is worthless as well
[06:24] <DaSkreech>  Which one do people complain about?
[06:24] <DaSkreech>  :)
[06:24] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  they drive vendor lock in? :)
[06:24] <hikaricore> I love being off topic as all hell
[06:24] <DaSkreech> hikaricore: tell that to Gnome
[06:25] <hikaricore> Gnome is pretty worthless
[06:25] <hikaricore> lol
[06:25] <semistud2354> someone told me that, it would be difficult for ppl to make games on linux cuz the filesystem on windows is better for games
[06:25] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: are you using adept?
[06:25] <hikaricore> ohh Bleach is on time to go idle
[06:25] <Dr_willis> the .net stuff is why i cant get LordoftheRingsOnline to work with Wine. (yet)
[06:25] <jdmmade> I just saw the rollin with bob saget video, is that shit for real
[06:25] <evsophomore2009> Daskreech: yes i am
[06:25] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  thats just stupid i have to say...
[06:25] <semistud2354> im not sure if thats true or not
[06:25] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: really?
[06:25] <semistud2354> yea
[06:25] <semistud2354> they said
[06:25] <semistud2354> they would have to make the same game 2 times
[06:25] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: Iif they can prove that I'll give them a doctorate
[06:25] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  from the benchmarks/docs ive seen with windows programs and wine. the filesystem under linux can make the programs run faster.
[06:25] <felzix> semistrud2354: I see absolute no reason for that at all.
[06:25] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: try it from the command line
[06:26] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: still edgy?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> Filesystem is rather trivial part of the game
[06:26] <evsophomore2009> Daskreech: yes
[06:26] <cables> I'm giving KDE a try, is there anything I should look out for or check out?
[06:26] <cables> I'm liking Konqueror's previews.
[06:26] <Dr_willis> cables,  hit alt-space :)
[06:26] <cables> Already discovered that :)
[06:26] <Dr_willis> for katapult
[06:26] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: what is the name of the package?
[06:26] <cables> I don't like Kopete's UI, except for the speech bubbles in the convo windows, it's very Adium-like. Although I have no idea which came first...
[06:27] <semistud2354> they said they dont want to spend the extra money to make the game for windows then remake the entire game for linux...because the file system is different
[06:27] <cables> but i'm sure it's customizable
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Hey!! That's my pimp territory!!
[06:27] <evsophomore2009> Daskreech: sun-java6
[06:27] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  get off my lawn!
[06:27] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:27] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: no -jre ?
[06:27] <stdin> semistud2354: umm, that a load of ****
[06:27] <cables> For some reason Kopete prints out everyone's status when I join a channel, which is annoying
[06:27] <DaSkreech> cables: kopete came first then stole adium's styles :0
[06:27] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  the 'filesystem' would be the least of the issues.
[06:27] <cables> ha
[06:28] <stdin> cables: are you using kopete for IRC?
[06:28] <Minataku> Dr_willis: So, how goes the garage exploration? XD
[06:28] <evsophomore2009> sun-java6-jre
[06:28] <felzix> semistud2354: they are either lying or ignorant.  The filesystem changes can be done by search-and-replace, though they could abstract the pathnames to port to most systems if they wanted to
[06:28] <cables> just for kicks, I installed Konversation
[06:28] <cables> stdin ^^
[06:28] <cpk1> well if they made a DX game then they would have to do a lot more work using all the linux equivalents instead
[06:28] <stdin> it's installed already
[06:28] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  got about a 6x6 inch space left in the box.. not sure what else to pack in.
[06:28] <evsophomore2009> Daskreech: sun-java6-jre
[06:28] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heehee
[06:28] <semistud2354> well all the answers i get help me make it easier to convert ppl to linux
[06:28] <cables> stdin: good point, I mean I installed it on Gnome before to try it out
[06:28] <DaSkreech> cables: ohhhh you are using it for IRC?
[06:28] <DaSkreech> cables: try alt+space -> konversation
[06:28] <stdin> cables: kopere is just wrong for IRC
[06:29] <Minataku> Dr_willis: You stuck everything all in one box after all?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  id uses those 'pak' files - and basically have their own filesystem in them :) sort of.
[06:29] <Minataku> Or is this just one box of multiple?
[06:29] <cables> I know! I've tried Konversation, but I wanted to see how Kopete was for chats.
[06:29] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  got the calculators and scsi drive and some other stuff. Not found a box big enough for the amigas yet.
[06:29] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: from the konsole apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[06:29] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  i did find some old vcr box's that may fit.
[06:29] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Ah, k ^^
[06:29] <semistud2354> wait....is it possible for a couple of ppl to reverse engineer age of empires and make it on linux
[06:30] <cables> So, GNOME has Bonobo, why aren't they using it for the same things KDE is using KParts for?
[06:30] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heehee, one Amiga per VCR box, then tape 'em together really, really tightly
[06:30] <Minataku> XD
[06:30] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: there is a project already I recall
[06:30] <felzix> semistud2354: much more important is the lack of .dll files in linux, so things must be handled a bit differently.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  ya could write a clone of it.. no 'reverse enginnering' needed
[06:30] <Minataku> Turn 3 VCR boxes into 1 X3
[06:30] <DaSkreech> .so ?
[06:30] <cables> Oh, and I read that KIO could make Samba access seamless for apps w/o the ability to access an unmounted Samba share, but it didn't exactly work for me.
[06:30] <evsophomore2009> Daskreech: how do i end the installation on adpet?
[06:30] <semistud2354> cuz thats illegal right
[06:30] <semistud2354> lol
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  yep - the more i clean/search the more junk i find. I found my LS120 drive today!
[06:30] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: it's hung?
[06:30] <evsophomore2009> Daskreech: yes
[06:30] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Awesome!
[06:30] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: sort of not really :)
[06:31] <semistud2354> lol
[06:31] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  i even got some disks for it. heh. Just not sure what use it is - other then a floppy drive for now.
[06:31] <stdin> cables: you just use the smb:/ kio
[06:31] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: alt+ctrl+esc and click on it
[06:31] <semistud2354> wait...not really
[06:31] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Keep me informed on new finds you don't want, BTW :D
[06:31] <semistud2354> why dont ppl do it more often
[06:31] <DaSkreech> !adept crash fix | evsophomore2009
[06:31] <ubotu> evsophomore2009: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:31] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  found osme OS/2 install floppies also!
[06:31] <Minataku> Sweet
[06:31] <stdin> cables: but only KDE apps can use KIOs
[06:31] <cables> stdin: i did that but it said that the app didn't work w/ smb:
[06:31] <cables> oh
[06:31] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  its more fun to write your own original game
[06:31] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: it's hard and people like innovation
[06:31] <cpk1> man now that I had to get a new phone via warranty verizon kinda has me by the balls on all the stuff I used to do
[06:31] <cables> I thought it did some sort of voodoo with temporary folders to make everything work with it
[06:32] <stdin> cables: there is gnome-vfs for gnome apps
[06:32] <cables> I wish GNOME had something like that, anyhow
[06:32] <cables> yeah
[06:32] <semistud2354> its not illigal
[06:32] <Minataku> I'd say toss in some Amiga floppies but a 1.44MB floppy with tape over the hole makes all kinds of older floppies possible ;3
[06:32] <semistud2354> if i did it tomorrow microsoft would prolly be sueing my ass
[06:32] <semistud2354> lol
[06:33] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: sepends
[06:33] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  sincve the LS120 uses an ide conector.. i was going to try it in an amiga.. but then i reaized  the amiga uses a Laptop sized ide conector. :(
[06:33] <cables> It would be cool if they got KIO and gnome-vfs to work w/ any app by having another layer of abstraction i there.
[06:33] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heh
[06:33] <semistud2354> man im in the mood to play 1942...but no windows computer
[06:33] <cables> on Konversation now... is there any way to get Xchat's column-ish view?
[06:33] <Dr_willis> Games are for the Weak.
[06:33] <semistud2354> anyone know any games that are similer
[06:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:33] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  RTCW:ET
[06:34] <cables> Oh, that's nice... ghosting my nick that was logged into Kopete crashed it.
[06:34] <semistud2354> rtcw
[06:34] <semistud2354> whats that
[06:34] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  RTCW:ET   note the ET
[06:34] <Dr_willis> Return to Castle Wolfenstein: enemy terriory
[06:34] <Dr_willis> the free multi-player release
[06:34] <stdin> cables: hmm? you mean have the channel tabs in a list, ie. not as tabs at the bottom?
[06:34] <semistud2354> can i get it from adept
[06:35] <semistud2354> or where do i download it
[06:35] <cables> stdin: no, in the actual conversation, Xchat puts the nicks to the left of their messages. It's hard to describe.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Someone posted sevberal Linux Game URL's earlier
[06:35] <Dr_willis> not in the repos as far as i know.
[06:35] <cables> Basically the nicks go on the left, then there's a line, and the messages stay to the right of the line. Makes it easier to find the nicks properly.
[06:35] <stdin> cables: like "[05:35]  <cables> stdin: no, in the actual conversation....."
[06:36] <osiris> i know this is an odd question, but is there a way to send text messages to cellphones from linux
[06:36] <cables> stdin: Using KDE is making my brain hurt, I'm a little out of my comfort zone, so I'm sort of unintelligible :)
[06:36] <Dr_willis> quick google search for rtcw:et and ubuntu - gives ---> http://katanoon.nl/ubu-e/install.php
[06:36] <cables> I'm a noob all over again
[06:36] <NickPresta> semistud2354, http://tinyurl.com/2s8zyp
[06:37] <semistud2354> imma go try some of these games out....
[06:37] <stdin> it time to burst that safe little gnome bubble you live in :p
[06:37] <semistud2354> LINUX HEIL!!!!
[06:37] <DaSkreech> cables: great place to be
[06:37] <cables> KDE has really nice sounds, I like that. They're not obnoxious like the ones in Windows. I'll probably disable a ton of them, but they're still very nice sounding.
[06:37] <cables> GNOME hardly has any sounds
[06:38] <Dr_willis> i tend ti disable ALL the sounds
[06:38] <DaSkreech> By design
[06:38] <stdin> gnome doesn't want to wake the user up outta their zombie-like state
[06:38] <Dr_willis> that reminds me - i need to work on my Porn Sound Scheme :)
[06:38] <cables> lol
[06:38] <cpk1> osiris: dunno about your phone but mine can recieve emails from people as a text
[06:39] <cables> I like having a simple, no-nonsense UI and use the CLI for whatever else I need to do
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: you have sound schemes in KDE?
[06:39] <stdin> I like to have the options there if I want them, tho I always have at least one konsole open
[06:40] <cables> which reminds me, I haven't tried yakuake
[06:40] <osiris> cpk1, that works, but im talking about the sms text messages.  like "text the letters lmao to 1rt3hnoob"
[06:40] <stdin> cables: yeah, it's Kool :)
[06:40] <DaSkreech> cables: ooooh I'm really liking the new one
[06:40] <DaSkreech> cables: I was pretty sure konsole was going to kill it
[06:40] <stdin> it's based on konsole
[06:40] <DaSkreech> then it said that's not a knife *schewing* This is a Knife
[06:40] <cables> I love how we linux users actually have eye-candy CLIs.
[06:41] <stdin> try it with beryl enabled too :p
[06:41] <cables> ha
[06:41] <cpk1> I'm confused, what's difference between using an email account and some other app? do you mean while the phone is connected to your computer osiris?
[06:41] <osiris> no.  sans phone
[06:42] <cables> can't you just write an app that interfaces w/ an sms gateway via email?
[06:42] <osiris> i wanna send text messages from pc to, say, verizon phones
[06:42] <NickPresta> stdin, have you seen the latest from KDE 4 and Konsole? I can't wait for the new Konsole. *giggles*
[06:42] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  no idea. :) i tend to just disable them all.
[06:42] <cables> osiris: easy, phonenumber@vtext.com
[06:42] <osiris> cables, perhaps if i was a code monkey
[06:42] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  i was working on a XXX icon set at one time.. then started with XXX sound bytes. :0
[06:42] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  then the wife caught me.  so i had to stop
[06:42] <cables> osiris: well there are simple CLI apps to send emails, you could use that...
[06:43] <stdin> NickPresta: yeah, I've been keeping apprised of the kde4.0 development, it's sooo Kool
[06:43] <cables> adept-installer isn't too great
[06:43] <NickPresta> stdin, indeed! I really like the split view on Konsole specfically. I always have a couple tabs open for compiling and viewing output and such.
[06:43] <cpk1> osiris: if you are using verizon you can use the verizon thingy at their website
[06:43] <cables> compared to gnome-app-install
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: ooooh You had models in for it?
[06:44] <stdin> cables: I just use apt-get :)
[06:44] <DaSkreech> cables: I kinda like adept
[06:44] <cables> osiris: or send email to 7815551234@vtext.com (random phone number there)
[06:44] <DaSkreech>  it uses debtags which rock
[06:44] <cpk1> my verizon phone recieves emails as sms already though...
[06:44] <DaSkreech> other than that meh
[06:44] <stdin> NickPresta: I'm looking forward to kwin having composit built in too
[06:44] <cables> I use aptitude, but a good GUI app installer is a good thing to have in a DE. Adept may be good, but adept-installer sorta sucks, and that's what the noobs will be using.
[06:45] <cpk1> I am not very happy with verizon right now though
[06:45] <cpk1> I had to get a new phone via warranty and the newest firmware doesnt play nice with bitpim
[06:46] <stdin> cables: a recent-ish snapshot of my desktop http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot4xt5.png anything like that in Gnome?
[06:46] <cables> I've installed yakuake, how do I use it now? I'm baffledish.
[06:47] <stdin> cables: run it, and press F12
[06:47] <cables> stdin: yep, there's gdesklets for widgets, which I don't really like, and GKrellm for the monitor on the side.
[06:47] <NickPresta> cables, I believe the default is F12. Press it for a drop down Konsole.
[06:47] <cpk1> wow stdin thanks I just realized, why arent I using superkaramba on my laptop
[06:47] <cables> nice
[06:48] <stdin> cpk1: yes, why aren't you?? :P
[06:48] <cables> tilda is supposed to do this, but it fails miserably somehow
[06:48] <stdin> cables: and this too :) http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot2lh3.png
[06:48] <cables> stdin: that has nothing to do w/ KDE :)
[06:48] <DaSkreech> cables: you installed the one from adept?
[06:48] <stdin> cables: yeah, but I like to show off :)
[06:49] <cables> stdin: I wish I could have my cube be transparent, but it slows stuff way down on my crappy gfx card. So it's an opaque cube for me :)
[06:49] <stdin> cables: and I think you can set the keybinding for it to open up
[06:49] <cables> that's ok, i've got it figured out
[06:49] <stdin> cables: I only have an intel chip
[06:49] <cables> stdin: I have an old nVidia
[06:49] <cables> 5200 Go
[06:50] <stdin> < intel 945
[06:50] <cables> so how do I configure yakuake? I guess I don't have it figured out.
[06:50] <NickPresta> since we're showing off desktop pictures, http://nickpresta.ath.cx/desktop
[06:50] <NickPresta> >_>
[06:50] <DaSkreech> cables: which one did you install ?
[06:51] <cables> DaSkreech: sudo aptitude install yakuake
[06:51] <DaSkreech> dang it stop posting desktop screenshots some of us are on dial up!!!
[06:51] <cables> should i have used adept?
[06:51] <DaSkreech> cables: nooooo
[06:51] <cables> ?
[06:51] <stdin> cables: press F12 to open it, and then click the little down arrow on the bottom right, change the access key
[06:51] <DaSkreech> cables: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29153
[06:51] <DaSkreech> cables: new one :)
[06:52] <cables> stdin: ok
[06:53] <cables> I suppose I should install aquamarine now
[06:53] <DaSkreech> cables: it can do Ctrl+Shift+T :-)
[06:54] <cables> f12 is fine for now
[06:54] <stdin> cables: on feisty I just did "sudo apt-get install beryl-kubuntu beryl-manager emerald-themes" and it was installed
[06:54] <cpk1> ctrl shift t is my konsole shortcut heh
[06:55] <cables> stdin: I, however, did this: "sudo aptitude install beryl beryl-manager emerald heliodor". Think a little :)
[06:55] <felzix> my konsole shortcut is windows key + z
[06:56] <cables> felzix: i assume you mean super+z?
[06:56] <stdin> cables: beryl-kubuntu installed aquamarine for me
[06:56] <DaSkreech> felzix: not a amarok fan
[06:57] <cables> stdin: i didn't install beryl-kubuntu... i installed beryl on GNOME when Feisty first came out, I'm only now trying KDE seriously. Before I've installed it, given it a 10-minute try, then gotten rid of it... now I'm actually going to give it the time you guys say it deserves :)
[06:57] <felzix> cables: yes
[06:57] <cables> felzix: just kidding, by the way :)
[06:57] <felzix> daskreech; I'm not sure what amarok has to do with konsole
[06:57] <DaSkreech> felzix: amarok uses that shortcut key
[06:58] <felzix> daskreech: oh
[06:58] <NickPresta> felzix, super+z = previous song
[06:58] <cables> good night
[06:58] <cables> bed time
[06:58] <cables> finals tomorrow :(
[06:58] <DaSkreech> cables: night'
[06:58] <felzix> cables: good luck! (I have a final, too)
[06:58] <cables> it's just that time of year :)
[06:58] <NickPresta> good luck!
[06:58] <felzix> aye
[06:58] <cables> thanks guys
[07:01] <jdmmade> can someone tell me one more time how to install deb files?
[07:02] <jdmmade> dev***
[07:02] <DaSkreech> !deb
[07:02] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[07:02] <stdin> dev?
[07:02] <stdin> you mean package-dev packages
[07:03] <jdmmade> nevermind
[07:03] <jdmmade> it worked
[07:03] <jdmmade> how can I do that through konsole?
[07:03] <stdin> sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[07:05] <jdmmade> sweet
[07:05] <jdmmade> I got to remember this stuf
[07:05] <jdmmade> LOL
[07:05] <jdmmade> this is gona take long!
[07:06] <kadaz> I have a question, how do I install tar.gz packages
[07:06] <stdin> !tar
[07:06] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[07:06] <kadaz> but how does it get installed?
[07:06] <kadaz> in the menu and such.
[07:06] <stdin> depends on what's in it
[07:06] <kadaz> a game
[07:07] <stdin> were there any instructions on the site you downloaded it from?
[07:07] <DaSkreech> !commands | jdmmade
[07:07] <ubotu> jdmmade: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:07] <DaSkreech> kadaz: which game?
[07:09] <kadaz> maniadrive
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Well that killed the convo
[07:14] <ardchoille> !gambas
[07:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gambas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <DaSkreech> !info gambas
[07:15] <ubotu> gambas: Visual development environment for the Gambas programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.15-1.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 954 kB, installed size 2228 kB
[07:15] <ardchoille> thanks DaSkreech
[07:19] <kadaz> hah apt-cache install  doesnt work
[07:19] <DaSkreech> kadaz: what?
[07:19] <DaSkreech> oh the game
[07:20] <kadaz> using terminal but command doesnt work
[07:20] <DaSkreech> kadaz: look for a file called README
[07:20] <ardchoille> kadaz: It's not supposed to work
[07:20] <DaSkreech> follow that hint
[07:20] <kadaz> ok.
[07:20] <kadaz> lol
[07:20] <kadaz> wheres setup.exe
[07:20] <kadaz> hehe,  JK !
[07:20] <kadaz> how do I install a logitech camera 5000
[07:21] <haiyah> can k3b be used to copy dvd to dvd using the same drive?
[07:21] <DaSkreech> !webcam
[07:21] <kadaz> !webcam
[07:21] <haiyah> i mean using one dvd rom only?
[07:21] <kadaz> oh, you would have to image it to a drive first
[07:21] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:22] <haiyah> image it on a drive? using k3b?
[07:25] <haiyah> err which one
[07:25] <kadaz> lookin at k3b otions
[07:25] <DaSkreech> haiyah: the one with the space to hold a dvd
[07:25] <kadaz> haiyah, theres a copy mode
[07:25] <haiyah> I have only copy CD.. then it prompt me to put a cd instead of dvd..hm
[07:25] <kadaz> oh  I see
[07:25] <kadaz> lookin at add/remove apps
[07:25] <stdin> haiyah: Tools -> Copy DVD
[07:25] <haiyah> hey i got it
[07:25] <haiyah> yeah. its at tools-->copy dvd.. thanks!
[07:25] <kadaz> lol
[07:25] <stdin> haiyah: copy to an ISO, then burn the ISO to a new DVD
[07:26] <stdin> ooh, it dose that automatically now :)
[07:26] <haiyah> MATSHITA UJ-820D 1.00 (/dev/hdc, ) at /media/cdrom0 [CD-R; CD-RW; CD-ROM; DVD-ROM; DVD-R; DVD-RW; DVD+R; DVD+RW]  [DVD-ROM; DVD-R Sequential; DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite; DVD-RW Sequential; DVD+RW; DVD+R; CD-ROM; CD-R; CD-RW]  [SAO; TAO; Restricted Overwrite] 
[07:27] <haiyah> does that mean the dvd is protected?
[07:27] <DaSkreech> BluRay?
[07:27] <stdin> no, that's the capabilities of the drive
[07:27] <haiyah> ah???
[07:31] <DaSkreech> kadaz: found the readme?
[07:33] <kadaz> Iam installing the camera, I had to redownload mania
[07:33] <kadaz> It says to do this   uvc makefile: Change INSTALL_MOD_DIR := kernel/ubuntu/media/usbvideo
[07:33] <kadaz> I have downloaded and installed to root/trunk
[07:34] <haiyah> where is the tasklist like ctrl-alt-del in windows?
[07:35] <kadaz> whats the nexts command  uvc makefile:=kernel/kubuntu/media/usbvideo ?
[07:35] <stdin> haiyah: try Ctrl-Esc
[07:36] <kadaz> kubunto roks !!
[07:41] <waltercool> !flash
[07:41] <waltercool> someone can help me a bit?
[07:42] <NickPresta> What do you need help with, waltercool
[07:42] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:42] <waltercool> !Gnash
[07:42] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[07:43] <waltercool> NickPresta: How can i install gnash correctly?? I have installed gnash + konqueror plugin, and in youtuve i only see a black window
[07:44] <jacques_> bonjour
[07:45] <waltercool> bonjour jacques_
[07:45] <kadaz> DaSkreech
[07:46] <DaSkreech> kadaz: yes?
[07:46] <kadaz> To install the webcam, it says Requires updated uvcvideo driver, easy to get from [WWW]  http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/). uvc makefile: Change INSTALL_MOD_DIR := kernel/ubuntu/media/usbvideo
[07:46] <kadaz> I got the file and its in the root/trunk folder. now what do I do with it.
[07:47] <DaSkreech> kadaz: where are you getting this from?
[07:47] <kadaz> !webcam
[07:47] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:48] <kadaz> usb/media?
[07:50] <jacques_> j'installais des packages avec apt, il y a un qui n'arrive pas a etre telecharger. comeent je peux installer les autres ignorant ce package
[07:50] <DaSkreech> !fr
[07:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:50] <waltercool> je ne parle franois... je suis parle english
[07:53] <waltercool> someone can use gnash?
[07:54] <kadaz> ?
[07:55] <waltercool> i need a flash plugin not adobe
[07:55] <waltercool> in konqueror
[07:57] <nixternal> !info konqueror-plugin-gnash
[07:57] <ubotu> konqueror-plugin-gnash: free Flash movie player - Plugin for Konqueror. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-1build1 (feisty), package size 128 kB, installed size 268 kB
[07:57] <nixternal> waltercool: ^^
[07:57] <nixternal> would be nice if the latest version could get backported
[07:59] <kadaz> ok got the game working
[07:59] <kadaz> but not the camera
[08:03] <waltercool> oo
[08:03] <waltercool> nixternal: i have installed
[08:03] <waltercool> nixternal: but dont work very well
[08:04] <nixternal> waltercool: ya, that is 0.7.2 for you...I heard that 0.8.0 is better..and YouTube and such work with it now
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> the latest Gnash has been uploaded to gutsy today
[08:04] <waltercool> before dont work?
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> or packaged for it today that is
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> the latest == from CVS
[08:05] <kadaz> Does kubunto come with good nvidia drivers or just generic?
[08:05] <kadaz> because that game mania was really slow.
[08:06] <sivaji_> is there any separate kernel  module to loaded to detect dvd in kubuntu
[08:06] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: the latest != from CVS...the latests == Alpha 3
[08:07] <nixternal> 0.8.0 is the release, but the plugins, tools, and what not haven't been updated
[08:07] <nixternal> so it is currently useless in its current state
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i may have looked far too quickly into the channel then...
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> !nvidia | kadaz
[08:08] <ubotu> kadaz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:08] <sivaji_> is there any separate kernel  module to loaded to detect dvd in kubuntu  my system never detect dvd disk ple tell me
[08:08] <kadaz> yes, I using the nv driver now, but the one that came with the install
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> yes, there in an nvidia driver which is proprietary....
[08:11] <kadaz> ok, so I need to update it
[08:11] <kadaz> correct?
[08:13] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[08:14] <kadaz> does xserver automatically  update on install or will I need to reconfigure it?
[08:14] <kadaz> consider xserver is only a conf file, it will still point to the drivers, uhm
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> kadaz: you'll need to restart X but it should work automagically
[08:17] <kadaz> great, thanks.
[08:21] <jovans> will the bugfix release of OpenOffice be availible as security update in feisty?
[08:25] <stdin> probably, yes
[08:26] <mirey> I am really having a tough time getting sound to work in kubuntu
[08:27] <mirey> I spent like an hour trying
[08:27] <mirey> read all the howtos and helps
[08:27] <mirey> it works when I boot into the kubuntu live cd
[08:27] <dsmith_> mute off?
[08:28] <dsmith_> sound level up?
[08:28] <mirey> I think the problem is I 2 sound cards
[08:28] <dsmith_> two?
[08:28] <dsmith_> hmmm
[08:28] <mirey> I know
[08:28] <dsmith_> remove one and see what happens
[08:28] <mirey> sounds want to play on the first sound card
[08:28] <louis__> hey guys
[08:28] <dsmith_> hey
[08:28] <louis__> quick question:  anybody know what cubecaps are?
[08:28] <dsmith_> !cubecaps
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cubecaps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <crimsun> mirey: what's the output from `asoundconf list`?
[08:29] <mirey> mirey@kubuntu:~$ asoundconf list
[08:29] <mirey> Names of available sound cards:
[08:29] <mirey> ICH5
[08:30] <mirey> hmm
[08:30] <crimsun> mirey: looks like there's only one recognised
[08:30] <mirey> thats odd
[08:30] <mirey> yeah
[08:30] <stdin> louis__: the caps of the desktop cube in beryl?
[08:30] <mirey> but lspci show 2
[08:30] <crimsun> mirey: the second line of which is ?
[08:30] <louis__> stdin, thanks!
[08:30] <stdin> mirey: "aplay -l" ?
[08:30] <mirey> mirey@kubuntu:~$ lspci | grep audio
[08:30] <mirey> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[08:30] <mirey> 02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[08:31] <mirey> mirey@kubuntu:~$ aplay -l
[08:31] <mirey> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[08:31] <mirey> card 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5] , device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH5] 
[08:31] <mirey>   Subdevices: 0/1
[08:31] <mirey>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[08:31] <mirey> card 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5] , device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH5 - IEC958] 
[08:31] <mirey>   Subdevices: 1/1
[08:31] <crimsun> mirey: you haven't done anything silly like attempt to compile alsa-driver yourself, have you?
[08:31] <mirey>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[08:31] <mirey> no
[08:31] <crimsun> mirey: please don't flood here
[08:31] <mirey> oh sorry
[08:31] <stdin> it only sees one card then
[08:32] <sivaji_> stdin my system cant detect dvd disks
[08:32] <crimsun> mirey: what's the output from `lspci -nv|grep 0401 -A1`?
[08:32] <sivaji_> stdin but i can read and write cds
[08:32] <stdin> sivaji_: can't detect them?
[08:32] <sivaji_> stdin yes
[08:32] <stdin> sivaji_: do you have a DVD drive, not just a CD drive?
[08:33] <sivaji_> stdin ya combo drive
[08:33] <sivaji_> i can read and write cds
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> mirey: pastebin.ca
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> post it there and send the URL
[08:33] <dsmith_> stdin: thats what I was wondering
[08:34] <stdin> sivaji_: well detecting the disk is the firmware's job, it then tells the kernel that there is a medium inserted
[08:34] <sivaji_> stdin i could see the dvd is buffered or somthing happens when i insert the dvd into driver but i cant see a icon in desktop
[08:35] <mirey> http://pastebin.ca/563603
[08:35] <stdin> sivaji_: it may still be detected tho. have you tried to mount it?
[08:36] <sivaji_> stdin i dont know what to mount either /dev/cdrom or cdrw or dvd or cdrom0 or cdrom1
[08:36] <michael__> what perms does the chmod 0777 command do?
[08:36] <stdin> sivaji_: just "mount /media/cdrom0"
[08:37] <mirey> I am revisting this problem from a few months ago, I think I edited my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file
[08:37] <sivaji_> stdin ok i wtll try and tell u ple wait
[08:37] <stdin> michael__: gives everyone read/write/execute
[08:38] <michael__> how do i check what the current perms are for everyone?
[08:39] <stdin> michael__: ls -l filename
[08:39] <sivaji_> stdin
[08:39] <sivaji_> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ sudo mount /media/cdrom0
[08:39] <sivaji_> mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[08:39] <sivaji_> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ sudo mount /media/cdrom0 /home/sivaji/mycomputer/dvd
[08:39] <sivaji_> mount: /media/cdrom0 is not a block device
[08:39] <michael__> thx
[08:39] <stdin> sivaji_: look in /media/cdrom0 now
[08:40] <sivaji_> stdin ok
[08:41] <crimsun> mirey: poor thing.  You have a Dell Sound Blaster Live 7.1 24bit with no AC97.
[08:41] <sivaji_> stdin ya i can thank u i am struggling for this from paste three days
[08:41] <sivaji_> stdin thank u my dear
[08:41] <crimsun> mirey: in any case, did you disable the onboard in the bios and blacklist snd-intel8x0?
[08:42] <stdin> sivaji_: it maynot show up on your desktop, but look in media:/ too, it may there too. save you having to type the commands
[08:42] <mirey> crimsun: no
[08:43] <sivaji_> stdin every will suggest link and go off , but u r not like them
[08:43] <mirey> crimsun: howto blacklist snd-intel8x0?
[08:43] <sivaji_> stdin am i suppose to mount manually everytime
[08:43] <crimsun> echo blacklist snd-intel8x0|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:43] <dsmith_> gn
[08:44] <stdin> sivaji_: it should ask you, but if not, then go to media:/ ,then you can just double click it to mount it
[08:45] <sivaji_> stdin ok cant u receive that file
[08:45] <mirey> crimsun: did you really mean to say snd_intel8x0 instead of snd-intel8x0?
[08:45] <michael__> how might i access windows shares from ubuntu
[08:45] <michael__> ! smb
[08:45] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:45] <stdin> sivaji_: what is it?
[08:45] <sivaji_> stdin which i gave u now
[08:45] <crimsun> mirey: no, I didn't.  I meant what I typed.
[08:45] <sivaji_> stdin my photo
[08:46] <mirey> ok just checking
[08:46] <sivaji_> stdin u dont want to see that
[08:46] <stdin> sivaji_: it's not good practise, and I'm not sure what the CoC says about that
[08:47] <sivaji_> stdin ok
[08:48] <mirey> crimsun: thanks for the tips, I am going to reboot and make sure I have disabled the onboard in the BIOS
[08:48] <jacques_> with realplay i am having this:Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[09:01] <mirey> crimsun: you still here?
[09:01] <crimsun> yes
[09:01] <crimsun> not for long, however
[09:01] <mirey> well I disabled it the bios, it was enabled
[09:01] <crimsun> meaning the onboard?
[09:02] <mirey> crimsun: yes
[09:02] <crimsun> ok, and what's the output from `lsmod|grep ^snd_ca0106`?
[09:02] <mirey> crimsun: snd_ca0106             36228  1
[09:02] <ardchoille> Is there something in superkaramba I can click to bring one or all superkaramba components to the front? I'd like to use superkaramba but I have lots of windows open and don't feel like minimising them all just to see the weather.
[09:02] <crimsun> mirey: and `asoundconf list`?
[09:02] <stdin> ar
[09:02] <mirey> crimsun: CA0106
[09:03] <crimsun> mirey: excellent.
[09:03] <stdin> ardchoille: why not just switch to a different desktop?
[09:03] <mirey> crimsun: but still no sound
[09:03] <crimsun> mirey: pastebin `amixer`
[09:04] <ardchoille> stdin: Such as?
[09:04] <stdin> as in desktop 2
[09:04] <mirey> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/563635
[09:05] <crimsun> mirey: mute 'IEC958' and increase 'Analog Front'
[09:06] <ardchoille> stdin: Oh, virtual desktops.. never thought of that.
[09:06] <ardchoille> Never used them.
[09:06] <cotyrothery> !wow
[09:06] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[09:06] <stdin> ardchoille: a quick Ctrl-F2, then Ctrl-F1 is all you need
[09:07] <ardchoille> stdin: Nice idea
[09:07] <stdin> :)
[09:07] <mirey> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/563638
[09:07] <mirey> crimsun: still nothing
[09:08] <crimsun> mirey: 'IEC958' is not muted.
[09:08] <mirey> crimsun: ok
[09:08] <mirey> crimsun: I got it
[09:08] <mirey> crimsun: Thanks so much
[09:08] <crimsun> np
[09:09] <gastly> hi guys
[09:09] <mirey> crimsun: hmm, only sounds out of left speaker...
[09:10] <crimsun> mirey: remember to adjust the Analog* elements.
[09:10] <mirey> crimsun: um, ok could you point me the right direction?
[09:11] <mirey> crimsun: and adjust how>
[09:12] <mirey> crimsun: I got it
[09:12] <mirey> thanks again
[09:12] <dcosson> hey all - i somehow seem to have trashed kcontrol or something... kcontrol still launches but does not have any control applets in it... anyone know how i might have done that?
[09:14] <michael__> ! smb
[09:14] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:17] <epimeth> g'morning folks
[09:19] <_bud> morning
[09:26] <gastly> Hi guys! I'm a bit new to this IRC stuff, so I was just wondering what IRC client is using. I am currently using Konversation.
[09:31] <sivaji_> habsen  : are u there
[09:36] <epimeth> sivaji_: what up amigo?  someone helped you out the other day in the end?
[09:36] <Kernel_Panic> hello kubunters!!!
[09:36] <sivaji_> ya my problem solved now thank u
[09:38] <Kernel_Panic> Please give to me link to Kylix for ubuntu...
[09:41] <Kernel_Panic>   ///
[09:41] <jussi01> Kernel_Panic: kylix is a depreciated tool, no longer maintained. why do you want it?
[09:41] <Kernel_Panic>     Kylix  
[09:42] <jussi01> Kernel_Panic: I cant read that, did you change your font or something?
 want to switch over to kubuntu/// i delphi programmer from russia
[09:45] <Kernel_Panic> *i
[09:45] <Jucato> !ru
[09:45] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:47] <jussi01> Kernel_Panic: If i remember correctly, lazarus + a plugin will work for you
[09:49] <A-L-A-R-M> goodmorning. what are the directories that i need to keep so that my system after a reinstall will have the same look, fonts, settings as before ? just .kde ?
[09:49] <mirey> anyone remember howto disable the animated tooltips that you get when hovering over items on the panel?
[09:49] <agn0stic> mirey: right click, configure panel?
[09:50] <arun_> hello.. i am trying to move some files from my kubuntu to a fat32 partition on my hard drive, and it says 'could not write to /media/sda6/'
[09:50] <arun_> why won't it write to the partition? i can write other files, just not this one
[09:51] <mirey> agn0stic: thanks
[09:51] <agn0stic> arun_: you can write to other files on that partition?
[09:51] <mirey> How do I tell which version of glibc I have?
[09:51] <jussi01> A-L-A-R-M: why are you reinstalling? IIRC, you can just reinstall and just unclick the format drives bit when you are in the partition program.
[09:52] <A-L-A-R-M> i didnt understand that
[09:52] <arun_> agn0stic: yes
[09:52] <andrea_> buongiorno
[09:53] <agn0stic> arun_: you can write to other things on /media/sda6/ - but it won't let you write some things? That's odd. Is the disk full? Are you trying to do it in different ways?
[09:54] <jussi01> A-L-A-R-M: when you have booted from the live cd and start installing, it come up to the part where you setup the partitions, in this section are little tick boxes to format or not format the drive, if you choose to not fomat by unclicking the tickboxes it will reinstall with out losing anything.
[09:54] <A-L-A-R-M> well now i did it allready :)
[09:55] <jussi01> A-L-A-R-M: ok
[09:55] <A-L-A-R-M> btw, finally installing the invidia drivers from the .run file is much more easier than the drivers from the repo
[09:56] <A-L-A-R-M> ok, now another question
[09:57] <A-L-A-R-M> i am told on my system that i got Xorg Version 1.3.0 can that be ?
[09:57] <arun_> agn0stic: no, the disk isn't full
[09:58] <arun_> there 7.5gb free
[09:58] <arun_> there's*
[09:58] <arun_> i'm just copying and pasting, like i do with other files
[09:58] <agn0stic> arun_: is it a certain directory on /media/sda6 that won't let you copy to it?
[09:58] <arun_> nope
[09:59] <louis_> anybody here ever use songbird?
[09:59] <arun_> doesnt work on any directory
[09:59] <agn0stic> arun_: it's probably a permissions issue. could you pastebin your /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab?
[10:01] <arun_> agn0stic: why can i copy some files and not others
[10:02] <chrismir> In previous versions, when I pressed <F2> on a file in konqueror, it would highlight (select) the filename, excluding the extension. Now with 7.04 it selects the whole filename, including the extension.
[10:02] <chrismir> Is there a way to get the old behaviour back?
[10:03] <agn0stic> arun_: you probably don't have permissions to. try to sudo copy files into it from a terminal
[10:03] <agn0stic> !permissions
[10:03] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[10:07] <arun_> the files i want to copy have 777
[10:07] <hiyah> hi anyone familar with lilo can help me out here.. i'm cloning my harddisk to another by mounting and copying.. after that i need to chroot the mounted drive to make it bootable
[10:07] <arun_> and i can copy other files to the same partition without a problem
[10:07] <hiyah> but i always hit into kernel panic..
[10:07] <kadaz> got it working Admiral, thank you
[10:07] <agn0stic> arun_: you can copy other files into /media/sda6?
[10:07] <hiyah> in the end i need to boot using cd and chroot then it will work.. is there any ways i can make the drive bootable when its mount?
[10:07] <arun_> agn0stic: yes
[10:07] <arun_> i cant copy just this one folder
[10:07] <hiyah> sdb1 is mounted on /mnt/clone , so i type chroot /mnt/clone /sbin/lilo
[10:07] <agn0stic> arun_: stumped me.
[10:07] <arun_> it's a rar file if that's any help
[10:07] <agn0stic> arun_: can you copy other rars onto it?
[10:07] <kadaz> Iam trying to get a logitech vid camera working  !webcam but now what.
[10:09] <kadaz> I downloaded the files and I have extracted them, I have a list of files for this webcamera and I dont know what to do next.
[10:10] <ALarm> one more question please :) why when trying to remove for example kdegames, or kdeaccesibility it tries also to remove the kde package ? i remember once i did remove them without needed to remove kde or base packages
[10:11] <kadaz> !cursors
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cursors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <kadaz> !cursor
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cursor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <kadaz> !cursorthemes
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cursorthemes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <kadaz> !kdewebdesktop
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdewebdesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <Jucato> !botabuse | kadaz
[10:15] <ubotu> kadaz: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:15] <kadaz> LOL
[10:16] <kadaz> thank you, I been forewarned.
[10:16] <kadaz> Now Iam forearmed :D
[10:16] <kadaz> !botabuse
[10:16] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:18] <hiyah> how come when i type exit after logging in as root, i'll hang with the last message INIT: no more process to run in this runlevel
[10:18] <hiyah> ??????
[10:20] <hiyah> anyone knows why is it that when i type exit after logging in as root, it will show "INIT: no more process to run in this runlevel" and hang there.. i couldn't type or do anything..but i can log in remotely only
[10:22] <dfeser> hi there
[10:23] <dfeser> does someone use truecrypt?
[10:27] <kraut> moin
[10:28] <kadaz> Hi Iam trying to run sauerbraten
[10:29] <kadaz> How do I chmod it to an exe
[10:31] <Lynoure> kadaz: no matter what it is, chmod u+x filename  makes it runnable type
[10:31] <Lynoure> whether it will then run or not is another matter :)
[10:32] <kadaz> ok, ok I done that
[10:32] <kadaz> will the runnable type still be the same file?
[10:35] <kadaz> ok, I look into it, I did that, but still asking to open with :P
[11:01] <epimeth> kadaz: have you tried running it from the cli?
[11:02] <kadaz> yap
[11:02] <kadaz> I got some directFB errors
[11:03] <epimeth> kadaz: sorry... dunno what those are
[11:15] <kadaz> what? I have to rebuild the kernal to put the framebuffer files in?
[11:16] <kadaz> oh my
[11:19] <arash> !codecs
[11:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:19] <kadaz> Anyone know how to get cube running?
[11:19] <kadaz> !cube
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cube - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <kadaz> Iam so happy to have Kubunto install on this computer !!!!!!!!
[11:24] <kadaz> such a very nice OS
[11:24] <kadaz> way better than any WINDOZE
[11:26] <visham> hi folks
[11:27] <visham> can any one tell me what is flow control in terms of ethernet cards and how is it related to the execution of nmap?
[11:27] <visham> also does firewall on my adsl router affect the performance of nmap OS scans?
[11:29] <arash> Hello, how do I add codecs, I cant find Medibuntu in "add/remove programs"
[11:29] <oti1> google "ubuntu users"
[11:30] <oti1> in the wiki there is a topic about codecs
[11:31] <oti1> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Codecs
[11:32] <oti1> the ugly plugins are for mp3 :p
[11:37] <visham> any nmap users in here?
[11:37] <arash> Guys, Amarok says I cant open any radio station
[11:38] <arash> I dont have program for it or something it says
[11:56] <pawitp> Cookie in konq is suddenly broken
[12:00] <pawitp> khtml (dom): WARNING: Can't communicate with cookiejar!
[12:01] <pawitp> Seems like kcookiejar is broken
[12:01] <pawitp> !kcookiejar
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kcookiejar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <kadaz> asash
[12:03] <kadaz> try streamtuner
[12:04] <kadaz> arash
[12:08] <henri_> arash, you have all media codec installed?
[12:08] <kadaz> I realized after I sent a msg to him, hes Gone1
[12:08] <henri_> :-) so it seems
[12:20] <osinkin> hi
[12:25] <kadaz> hi
[12:41] <dennis__> anyone knows how to install a printerdriver if the provider or linux doesn't supply a suitable one?
[12:42] <kumamoto> dennis__: you can check out linuxprinting.org for equivalent drivers that can work with your printer.
[12:42] <kumamoto> http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi
[12:42] <Jucato> !printer
[12:42] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:43] <dennis__> thx people, i'll check it out
[12:46] <apt-get> Can someone help me
[12:46] <apt-get> I am locked out of add/remove
[12:47] <apt-get> /rejoin
[12:47] <apt-get> hello
[12:48] <apt-get> My apept installer is locked
[12:48] <apt-get> How do I unlock it?
[12:48] <pag> !fixadept
[12:48] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:48] <apt-get> thx
[12:48] <aula12> ola
[12:48] <aula12> XD
[12:49] <puesto06> ola
[12:55] <aula12> xeda
[12:55] <puesto06>                                                                                                                                                                    ey
[12:56] <puesto06> k pasa gonzalo
[12:56] <puesto06> el luis es un marikita xo no se lo digais a nadie
[12:56] <aula12> uy k wapo esto no?
[12:56] <aula12_> eres un mierda xeda
[12:56] <puesto06> kambiaos el nombre
[12:56] <puesto08> marica
[12:56] <pag> !es
[12:56] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:57] <puesto07> trillo y luis gays
[12:57] <puesto08> kitate mi apellido
[12:57] <puesto08> xeda
[12:57] <Trillo> yo soi trillo
[12:57] <puesto08> sera marica
[12:57] <puesto07> jajaja
[12:57] <Trillo> tu eres un impostor
[12:57] <puesto07> jaja
[12:58] <pawitp> !ubotu | Attention
[12:58] <ubotu> Attention: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:02] <pawitp> !foo
[01:02] <ubotu> foo is bar
[01:03] <PhinnFort> !bar
[01:03] <ubotu> foo is bar
[01:10] <henrik_> Hello
[01:11] <henrik_> Could someone point me to a place where I can get the kubuntu panel background? (I currently dont use kubuntu, so I dont have access to it)
[01:17] <xerosis> henrik_: try looking in: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8037521/kubuntu-default-settings_7.10-4.tar.gz
[01:18] <henrik_> xerosis: Thanks
[01:19] <xerosis> henrik_: yeah it's kubuntu-panel.png in there
[01:21] <henrik_> xerosis: jup ;)
[01:23] <tdn> What tool do I use to securely erase my hard disc?
[01:24] <henrik_> tdn: you could use wipe
[01:25] <tdn> henrik_, ok.
[01:28] <faidillinger> hello
[01:28] <faidillinger> Which one is the best : Koffice or OpenOffice ???
[01:28] <ardchoille> !best
[01:28] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:29] <Gast850> hey zusammen
[01:29] <Gast850> hab eine frage bezglich gpg:
[01:29] <faidillinger> then which one do you guys prefer and why ?
[01:30] <Gast850> hatte zurvor auf ner windowsbox ein schlsselpaar erzeugt. Wie kann ich nun den geheimen schlssel in gpg importieren
[01:30] <Gast850> ?
[01:30] <kadaz> where does rpm packages get installed?
[01:30] <ardchoille> kadaz: We don't use rpm packages in kubuntu
[01:30] <ardchoille> We use .deb packages
[01:30] <kadaz> can I extract a rpm package?
[01:31] <ardchoille> I believe there are apps that let you extract an rpm, but installing an rpm is dangerous.
[01:31] <Gast850> is this chanlle english speaking only ?
[01:31] <Gast850> *channel
[01:31] <kadaz> I just installed a cursor rpm
[01:31] <ardchoille> Gast850: Yes
[01:31] <faidillinger> how can i try kde4 with kubuntu ??
[01:31] <Gast850> oh ok
[01:31] <ardchoille> !dk
[01:31] <ubotu> For at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[01:31] <kadaz> how do I  fix this??
[01:32] <ardchoille> kadaz: How did you install it?
[01:32] <Gast850> so my question is: i once generated a pair of keys with pgp. Now i want to import the secret key to gpg, how can i do this?
[01:32] <kadaz> using root term   I rpm the packaged and it said it installed.
[01:32] <ardchoille> Gast850: The secret key should already be in your gpg key ring
[01:33] <ardchoille> kadaz: What command did you use?
[01:33] <kadaz> rpm
[01:33] <kadaz> I had to download it
[01:33] <Gast850> ardchoille: not after a fresh install of gpg on my linuxbox, since the secret + pub key(rings) were generated on a win box
[01:33] <ardchoille> kadaz: So you have alien installed?
[01:34] <kadaz> ?? yah
[01:34] <ardchoille> Gast850: I use kgpg to import new keys. You can try that.
[01:34] <kadaz> I thought rpm was like lha
[01:34] <Gast850> ardchoille, so there's also an option zu import the secret key?
[01:34] <ardchoille> kadaz: Using alien is dangerous. I would suggest to uninstall the rpm and stay away from them. Try to find a .deb package.
[01:35] <kadaz> whats the uninstall cmd
[01:35] <ardchoille> Gast850: I believe there is a cli command to import, but I don't know what it is.
[01:36] <ardchoille> kadaz: If you have rpm installed, I believe it's: rpm -e package
[01:37] <ardchoille> Then I feel you should uninstall rpm too as it can break your system.
[01:37] <kadaz> okk
[01:38] <ardchoille> !alien | kadaz
[01:38] <ubotu> kadaz: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[01:39] <kadaz> ok..
[01:39] <kadaz> apt-uninstall?
[01:39] <kadaz> sudo apt-get remove
[01:40] <kadaz> Removed rpm ...
[01:41] <kadaz> thank you !
[01:42] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[01:42] <kadaz> I have another questioon
[01:42] <kadaz> !webcam
[01:42] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:42] <kadaz> I  downloaded the file. and extracted it to /trunk  and now I dont know what to do.
[01:44] <kadaz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasLogitech
[01:44] <kadaz> I went to this site and for the logitech 5000, it said get this file and then do this.
[01:45] <manuel_> CIAO A TUTTI
[01:45] <manuel_> QUALCINO SA' SPIEGARMI COME FUNZIONA STA COSA
[01:45] <manuel_> ??
[01:46] <kadaz> Iam going to try the first site
[01:46] <manuel_> WATH?
[01:46] <manuel_> QUALCHE ITALIANO??
[01:46] <yamal> !it | manuel_
[01:46] <ubotu> manuel_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:47] <manuel_> OK SORRY
[01:47] <frojnd> does kopete support to have more than one acc on msn protocol?
[01:47] <Gruelius> Ive got a funny problem, ive got a dual screen setup which is working perfectly except for when i have files on one desktop (say the right one) i cant drag them to the left, the mouse moves with the outlines of the files however the files dont move :(
[01:48] <kadaz> cp from desktop to desktop
[01:48] <kadaz> There might be a way to do it, but I wont be able to help :D
[01:49] <kadaz> sometimes if you take your second moniter over top of the other one, and give it shake, sometimes your files will fall onto the other desktop.
[01:53] <Gruelius> lol kadaz
[01:53] <Gruelius> so are there two desktop folders or something?
[01:54] <ninjahkv> hola y buenos dias a todos
[01:54] <Gruelius> i feel kde is above gnome
[01:54] <Gruelius> coming from gnome
[01:55] <Tm_T> frojnd: haven't found limit in accounts yet, I had 4 msn accounts online at one time
[01:55] <kadaz> I agree
[01:56] <kadaz> gruelius,  I dont have an answer. I have two moniters, but havnt tested out the second one yet.
[01:56] <Gruelius> lol
[01:56] <Gruelius> could you try dragging a file across? :p
[01:56] <kadaz> I could enable it and start another session
[01:57] <primordium_> Hello! I have a little question here! The Adept notifier/updater have appeared in my desktop has a green light, and when i closed it, it asked if i want it to run next time and i said no! now im worried if i did wrong, and now i dont have updates... can anyone help me?
[01:58] <kadaz> ill try this
[02:00] <Contrast> Greets, everyone...
[02:00] <Contrast> Can someone help me with getting streaming video playing in Konqueror?
[02:01] <Contrast> I already have kmplayer-base and kmplayer-konq-plugin installed (as well as mozilla-mplayer, but when I go to a page with embedded video, the area where the video should be is just black, with the buttons at the bottom. Hitting play does nothing.
[02:06] <primordium_> anyone know what im talking about ??
[02:07] <Contrast> primordium_: You're safe. :-)
[02:07] <kadaz> well that didnt work so well
[02:07] <primordium_> thanks! i was worried because the GREEN LIGHT didnt show up again
[02:07] <Contrast> You just won't be notified of new updates, but you can still run Adept Updater and get them.
[02:07] <primordium_> but i want to be notified
[02:09] <primordium_> how can i reverse this?
[02:09] <Contrast> primordium_: Try digging around in the settings for Adept. I'd say there's an option for it. Sorry I can't help more than that, but I haven't used Adept in months and no longer have it installed.
[02:09] <Jucato> primordium_: you can run notifier manually: adept_notifier
[02:09] <Contrast> Jucato: Isn't there also an option in its settings to start it when you log in?
[02:09] <Jucato> Contrast: well, that's the default behavior in the first place.
[02:10] <jakub_> Anybody familiar with Blender?
[02:11] <primordium_> i found the adept-notifierrc and it have inside the Autostart=false, i changed to true
[02:11] <sivaji> !splash screen
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about splash screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <sivaji> ! info splash screen
[02:11] <ubotu> Package splash does not exist in feisty
[02:11] <primordium_> maybe this works i guess
[02:13] <kadaz> !webcam
[02:13] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:13] <crdlb> !usplash
[02:13] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[02:13] <Contrast> Jucato: I know, but that goes for other programs too, and they still have an option somewhere to set it back to autostart.
[02:13] <Contrast> primordium_: If all else fails, you can always just put a link to Adept Notifier in /home/yourname/.kde/Autostart
[02:13] <primordium_> yeah :) thanks
[02:13] <Contrast> sivaji: What are you trying to find out?
[02:13] <sivaji> i want more slpash screen
[02:13] <Contrast> http://www.kde-look.org
[02:14] <Jucato> primordium_, Contrast: actually, there should be an entry in /usr/share/autostart
[02:14] <kadaz> how can I disable acpi in kubuntu
[02:14] <Jucato> you can manually edit the .desktop file as a plain text file
[02:14] <kadaz> permently.
[02:14] <Contrast> Oh ok. My fault.
[02:16] <Contrast> !acpi
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <Contrast> primordium_: Sounds like you got it on your own. I'd imagine that's the proper way to get it back, barring a checkbox for it somewhere in Adept's settings.
[02:19] <ardchoille> Anyone know how I can find out a command that does the same thing as some of the stuff in kcontrol? kcontrol > Security & Privacy > Privacy ; Select All > Clean Up > Apply   <-- I'd like to know how to do that from cli.
[02:20] <primordium_> Contrast: thanks for the help, im seeking trought the files now, but i guess its done... :D
[02:21] <Contrast> Does anyone know the file format that plugins for Konqueror have to be in?
[02:21] <Jucato> Contrast: same format for any browser plugin. nsplugins
[02:24] <Contrast> Thanks Jucato. Actually, pointless question. I just saw that Konqueror's already recognizing the mozilla-mplayer plugin. It's just that it's still trying to use kmplayer to play embedded video instead, and when I tried apt-get removing kmplayer-base and kmplayer-konq-plugin, Konqueror just crashed when I went to a site with streaming video.
[02:25] <Jucato> Contrast: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> specific file type -> Embedding tab
[02:27] <steveire> Hey. Has anyone here ever copied an ubuntu installation from one harddrive to another?
[02:28] <steveire> I want to know the RightWay to do it.
[02:31] <xerosis> steveire: using dd is probably your best bet
[02:31] <Contrast> Jucato: Thanks a lot, looks like that got it. Now it's just stuttering like crazy though. Brb
[02:31] <klakette> hi :)
[02:31] <steveire> xerosis: Have you done it?
[02:31] <xerosis> steveire: 'fraid not
[02:31] <xerosis> dd just copies a disk completely though, so it's the best way to do it
[02:31] <xerosis> steveire: plenty of guides on google
[02:31] <steveire> xerosis: From a liveCD?
[02:32] <xerosis> steveire: any liveCD will have it
[02:32] <steveire> I mean, do I need to be not using the drive that I'm copying while doing it?
[02:33] <xerosis> steveire: if nothing else, it'll slow it down
[02:35] <kadaz> !webcam
[02:35] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:37] <Whitey> hi all, I've been having trouble with my ati video card since upgrading my kernel recently
[02:37] <Whitey> is anyone available to help? :)
[02:37] <Whitey> !ati
[02:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:38] <crdlb> Whitey, what ati card?
[02:38] <Whitey> radeon... 9800 I think
[02:38] <Whitey> it's definitly a radeon though
[02:38] <crdlb> Whitey, using the proprietary driver?
[02:38] <Whitey> I'm not sure what that is :P
[02:38] <crdlb> Whitey, run: fglrxinfo
[02:38] <Whitey> it tells me I'm using the generic one
[02:38] <Whitey> erm..
[02:38] <Contrast> Jucato: Figured it out. Just had to tweak the cache size.
[02:39] <Whitey> Mesa
[02:39] <Contrast> Jucato: Greatly appreciated.
[02:39] <crdlb> Whitey, but it is installed then
[02:39] <Jucato> um.. ok.. :)
[02:39] <crdlb> Whitey, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:39] <crdlb> !pastebin
[02:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:39] <Whitey> ty :)
[02:40] <halaf> 
[02:40] <Whitey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25396/ <<< my Xorg.0.log
[02:41] <Whitey> I only noticed the problem after reseting the other night
[02:41] <Whitey> and I remember updaing my kernel stuff the other day :P
[02:41] <Whitey> when scouring google for answers, I saw the problem can be caused upon upgrade, if the drivers are incompatible
[02:41] <Whitey> but I can't seem to do anything to make them work :P
[02:42] <crdlb> Whitey, sudo modprobe fglrx
[02:42] <crdlb> what happens if you try that?
[02:42] <Whitey> eep, scary :P
[02:42] <Whitey> FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': No such file or directory
[02:43] <Whitey> oh... FGL stands for Fire GL :D
[02:43] <Whitey> I never knew that ^_^
[02:43] <crdlb> Whitey, sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[02:43] <Whitey> I removed and installed them earlier, but ok :P
[02:43] <kaizad> what is cyber sex ?
[02:44] <Whitey> like phone sex, but with text :)
[02:44] <Whitey> all done crdlb
[02:44] <polopolo> !off-topic | :P:P:P
[02:44] <kaizad> oh .... so how do u do i t?
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <polopolo> oh
[02:44] <Whitey> lol
[02:45] <steveire> kaizad: It involves a harddrive and virus protection
[02:45] <crdlb> polopolo, looking for !offtopic ?
[02:45] <kaizad> i mean do v need 2 take ny pills for it ?
[02:45] <crdlb> Whitey, well try this: sudo lrm-manager
[02:45] <polopolo> !offtopic
[02:45] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:45] <kaizad> ok
[02:45] <kaizad> my yahoo id is not working ! :(
[02:46] <crdlb> Whitey, then, repeat: sudo modprobe fglrx
[02:46] <Whitey> is something meant to open crdlb?
[02:46] <Whitey> ok
[02:46] <kaizad> ie .. in gaim !
[02:46] <Whitey> ok, done - no output :P
[02:46] <kaizad> it says ur screen name is incorrect
[02:46] <crdlb> Whitey, now restart X without rebooting
[02:46] <Whitey> crdlb: what's the best way to do that? :)
[02:46] <kaizad> but i hav given a id & pw correct !
[02:46] <Whitey> Ctrl + Alt + Backspace?
[02:46] <kaizad> hey HELP !
[02:46] <crdlb> Whitey, log out and ctrl+alt+bksp from the login screen
[02:46] <Whitey> btw, my card is an ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro] 
[02:46] <Whitey> :P
[02:47] <Whitey> ok, brb ^_^
[02:47] <polopolo> !ping | polopolo
[02:47] <polopolo> !ping
[02:47] <ubotu> pong
[02:48] <alumno> eeeeeeeeeeee
[02:49] <Whitey> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[02:49] <Whitey> ^_^
[02:49] <crdlb> Whitey, here's the thing, it probably won't work on reboot
[02:49] <Whitey> thank you crdlb :D
[02:49] <Whitey> ah
[02:49] <Whitey> ok
[02:49] <Whitey> I suppose I have to edit a configuration file? :P
[02:50] <crdlb> but running: sudo lrm-manager && sudo modprobe fglrx
[02:50] <crdlb> will make it work
[02:50] <Whitey> hmm
[02:50] <crdlb> you could probably put that in an init script or something
[02:50] <Whitey> is there a way to make it work automagically? :P
[02:50] <kadaz> !webcam
[02:50] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:50] <Whitey> just out of curiosity, why does it do this? :P
[02:50] <Whitey> and how did I/you fix it? :P
[02:50] <crdlb> absolutely no idea
[02:50] <Whitey> :P
[02:50] <crdlb> well lrm-manager copies the restricted module to where modprobe can load it
[02:51] <Whitey> ah
[02:51] <Whitey> hmm
[02:51] <crdlb> but it's supposed to happen on boot
[02:51] <Whitey> is this because I'm using the latest restricted modules? =/
[02:52] <Whitey> if so, is it possible for me to revert? :P
[02:52] <Whitey> I mean, adapt told me to update, so I'd assume they're not bleeding edge...
[02:52] <crdlb> no, it just broke :)
[02:53] <Whitey> oh :P
[02:53] <Whitey> well
[02:53] <Whitey> how do I create an init script? :P
[02:53] <Whitey> I've done a small amount of bash scripting in the past, but I don't know how to run one on init
[02:53] <Whitey> I suppose I'd want it to run before X starts too...
[02:54] <crdlb> haven't needed to on *buntu so I don't know
[02:54] <Whitey> :P
[02:54] <crdlb> yeah that would be good
[02:54] <Whitey> tha'ts ok, I'm sure I can find out somewhere ^_^
[02:54] <Whitey> thanks anyway crdlb :)
[02:54] <crdlb> np :)
[02:56] <Whitey> for the curious, it's quite simple to do ^_^
[02:56] <Whitey> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[02:57] <rjune__> What's the "official" way to set IP address information on ubuntu-server? and is there a gui frontend?
[02:57] <kadaz> hey guys, do you know where to put the linux uvc drivers?
[02:59] <kadaz> what do you mean by set?
[02:59] <kadaz> like manually doing it?
[02:59] <WebAppMonkey> For a desktop install of Kubuntu Feisty should I just download and install kubuntu-7.04-desktop-amd64.iso? Or should I get alternate too?
[03:00] <arash> OK, guys, one thing is really pissing me of with this KDE, once you by mistake drag or drop a menu a tiny bit, it all get ruined, how can i restore a windows normal settings to the default layout?
[03:00] <WebAppMonkey> I plan on just installing over my OpenSuSe root and user partitions and keeping my disk structure otherwise intact
[03:01] <rjune__> kadaz: I mean I have ubuntu server installed. I want to not use dhcp for the address.
[03:01] <rjune__> so I need to assign it a static IP.
[03:02] <kadaz> ok
[03:02] <WebAppMonkey> rjune__: To temporarily assign a static IP you can use `sudo ifconfig <adapter> <ip>`. You are looking to assign an IP to a linux box, yes?
[03:02] <rjune__> WebAppMonkey: I want to do it permanantly.
[03:02] <WebAppMonkey> rjune__: As far as setting it to do that at boot is distro-specific... Someone else will have to help you until I move over to Kubuntu :)
[03:03] <|neonlinux|> rjune__: u have a screen on that server?
[03:03] <rjune__> |neonlinux|: of course.
[03:03] <WebAppMonkey> rjune__: At the very least there should be something in /etc/rc.d
[03:03] <WebAppMonkey> Depending on what boot structure Kubuntu uses? SysV?
[03:03] <|neonlinux|> ok.. goto the k menu.. then to systemsettings
[03:03] <rjune__> WebAppMonkey: yeah /etc/rc.d/networking. I'm wanting to know the specific ubuntu tools though.
[03:04] <rjune__> |neonlinux|: ubuntu-server. text console, not X
[03:04] <|neonlinux|> ahh... hmmm.. ill see what i can find
[03:08] <BlueDevil> i'm running feisty on a core2duo/asus p5b-deluxe and it won't see the whole 4GB of ram, it only sees 2GB; what can i do to fix it?
[03:08] <WebAppMonkey> A question: Will the desktop install allow me to do a detailed selection of what partitions I want to use for what mountpoints? Ie: I just want to replace my / and /usr.
[03:08] <rjune__> though since we are talking about it. will Network Manager write the data to /etc/network/interfaces? or will it create it's own config?
[03:08] <WebAppMonkey> rjune__: Network Manager is a userspace tool, I would *assume* it's changes are in its own configuration
[03:08] <dfan> hello.
[03:08] <|neonlinux|> rjune__: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-ubuntu-system-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address.html#more-8
[03:08] <rjune__> WebAppMonkey: then ubuntu uses it's default format. because using network manager to set the ip address writes it to where I would expect.
[03:09] <WebAppMonkey> rjune__: So NetworkManager changes the /etc/rc.d/networking config file?
[03:09] <dfan> I've been getting some kernel panics with feisty and I think I might get an idea how to reproduce it.
[03:09] <rjune__> WebAppMonkey: no. it changes /etc/network/interfaces
[03:10] <rjune__> I wouldn't expect anything to change /etc/rc.d/networking unless you were using slack.
[03:13] <WebAppMonkey> rjune__: I come from two years of being a slacker :) All this fancy user-space stuff is new to me.
[03:14] <WebAppMonkey> rjune__: I just compiled my own Xorg server + glibc + GCC one-too-many-times
[03:19] <rjune_> oy, sorry bout that.
[03:19] <rjune_> WebAppMonkey: You're coming from OpenSuSE then?
[03:20] <WebAppMonkey> rjune_: I've used slack forever, I just recently switched to OpenSuSe, but Novell's political moves have made me look for another modern OS
[03:20] <WebAppMonkey> Er, distro at least
[03:24] <rjune_> You'll quickly find that slack does things differently from most other distros.
[03:25] <scullder> hi !
[03:32] <WebAppMonkey> rjune_: And it is unfortunate that everything else does things differently than slack... It is a wonderfully elegant system. Unfortuately, I desire modern features... like beryl.
[03:33] <scales> somebody help i installed nvidia drivers but beryl wouldnt start why????
[03:33] <crdlb> scales, glxinfo|grep OpenGL\ version
[03:37] <scales> crdlb: where i can view it?
[03:37] <crdlb> scales, in a terminal
[03:37] <scales> crdlb: whatis the command
[03:37] <crdlb> scales, I just told you
[03:37] <WebAppMonkey> scales: alt+f2, type konsole, run that. Then type the command crdlb wrote.
[03:37] <crdlb> oh that
[03:37] <scales> it says
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <scales> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <crdlb> ugh
[03:37] <JuJuBee> What should I be using to authenticate in a client server environment?  I tried NIS (broken) and LDAP(cant get to work).
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <Jucato> !paste | scales
[03:37] <ubotu> scales: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <scales> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:37] <WebAppMonkey> *sighs*
[03:37] <scales> crdlb: what i can do?
[03:37] <crdlb> scales, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:37] <crdlb> use the pastebin link above
[03:38] <kadaz> crdlb did you set your driver proprietary?
[03:38] <WebAppMonkey> Before I waste a CD, will the desktop install allow me to setup the partitions it uses? (I just want to overwrite / and /usr, but not /home, and otherwise keep my partition table setup)
[03:38] <kadaz> I meant scales
[03:39] <scales> kadaz: with envy on auto
[03:39] <kadaz> after you updated your nvidia drivers, you need to set it from standard to proprietary
[03:39] <Jucato> WebAppMonkey: definitely yes
[03:39] <crdlb> yuck
[03:39] <scales> i just cant understand why it so tuff to install some drivers
[03:39] <Jucato> WebAppMonkey: make sure you uncheck the box that indicates whether the partition will be formatted or not
[03:39] <crdlb> scales, because you used envy
[03:40] <kadaz> what is envy?
[03:40] <WebAppMonkey> Jucato: Thank you, I'll be back in less than an hour then, when I'm back from an install :)
[03:40] <crdlb> !envy
[03:40] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[03:40] <Jucato> WebAppMonkey: good luck
[03:40] <WebAppMonkey> If that isn't too optimistic :)
[03:40] <polopolo> can someone say gow I can remove the folder .gVerse
[03:41] <WebAppMonkey> Jucato: It can't be any worse than installing slack..
[03:41] <WebAppMonkey> Or LFS
[03:44] <yatin> hi i am having problems with suspend and hibernate
[03:44] <yatin> i have a dell dimension 8200
[03:48] <polopolo> can someone say how I can remove the folder .gVerse
[03:48] <scales> give me a tip how to install them
[03:48] <ardchoille> polopolo: rm -r .gVerse
[03:48] <yatin> when i click suspend, the comp suspends just fine, however when i press the power button to come out of uspend, i just get a blank screen, no cursor or anything, and the usb keyboard is completely nonresponsive
[03:48] <scales>  crdlb can you give me some help?
[03:48] <crdlb> scales, are you going to pastebin your log?
[03:48] <crdlb> !pastebin
[03:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:48] <scales> crdlb: but without the pastebin ......just some hints
[03:48] <polopolo> ardchoille thank you
[03:48] <crdlb> scales, um
[03:48] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[03:48] <crdlb> make sure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf says Driver "nvidia"
[03:48] <crdlb> not "nv" or "vesa"
[03:48] <scales> crdlb: how can i see them?
[03:49] <scales> crdlb: explain me like to a lame :)))
[03:49] <crdlb> scales, run: sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[03:50] <crdlb> that /should/ handle everything assuming envy didn't screw up
[03:50] <scales> crdlb: command not found
[03:51] <crdlb> scales, nvidia-xconfig ?
[03:51] <scales> yep
[03:51] <crdlb> ugh
[03:51] <crdlb> shouldn't have used envy like we repeatedly told you
[03:52] <scales> what to do reinstal linux?
[03:52] <crdlb> you should install /real/ feisty
[03:52] <crdlb> not that ultimate edition thing
[03:54] <scales> crdlb: do you know the ultimate edition distribution
[03:54] <scales> you should download it
[03:54] <crdlb> no I shouldn't
[03:55] <crdlb> and I really recommend you don't either
[03:55] <ardchoille> I fail to understand the need for a script to install nvidia drivers. All I had to do was 'sudo apt-get install nvidia glx', 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable', 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', and restart x and it was installed.
[03:56] <benjamin_hr> it isnt that easy for all of us ardchoille ;)
[03:56] <scales> www.youtube.com/?v=_CPEfFdfEdg take a look at it
[03:56] <benjamin_hr> or better wasnt, cause one installed, if the kernel doesnt change, everythings fine of course :)
[03:56] <benjamin_hr> s/one/once/
[03:56] <crdlb> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-generic && sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[03:56] <crdlb> even better :P
[03:57] <alumno> Hola
[03:57] <ardchoille> benjamin_hr: My kernel changed and the nvidia drivers are still running
[03:57] <benjamin_hr> that never worked for me, they messed up my restricted modules or something else, cause i had to reinstall everything everytime i changed the kernel
[03:58] <alumno> q guey
[03:58] <benjamin_hr> but, i dont change kernels like underwear, so its not that bad ;)
[03:58] <ardchoille> did you install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site or from source or something?
[03:58] <WebAppMonkey> Nice installer
[03:59] <alumno> hello
[03:59] <benjamin_hr> first with aptitude, but that didnt worked, than by source, that didnt work either (but here it was my lazyness and inexperience) and then via envy, which worked
[03:59] <alumno> shut up
[03:59] <benjamin_hr> ehm
[03:59] <benjamin_hr> youre must be a girl
[03:59] <benjamin_hr> -re
[03:59] <benjamin_hr> ;)
[04:00] <azzco> I'm trying to setup a LAN sharing a few folders with my brother (windows system) I've tried to follow the wiki but he doesn't get access to any files, help?
[04:00] <benjamin_hr> my girlfriend always reacts that way anytime i mentiion anything about computers
[04:00] <benjamin_hr> especially with friendly nerds nearby ;)
[04:00] <WebAppMonkey> benjamin_hr: Stop making things up, linux users don't have girlfriends.
[04:00] <benjamin_hr> hrhr
[04:00] <azzco> WebAppMonkey: LOL
[04:01] <benjamin_hr> i think there was something about that in a fortune cookie file, maybe ill find it
[04:01] <WebAppMonkey> benjamin_hr: Have you ever seen pictures of aKademy?
[04:01] <scales> crdlb: both of command are working now what to do next?
[04:02] <benjamin_hr> ehm
[04:02] <benjamin_hr> no
[04:02] <crdlb> scales, what?
[04:02] <scales> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-generic && sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[04:02] <benjamin_hr> ah
[04:02] <alumno> eh
[04:02] <benjamin_hr> i didnt know what that was, but a google (image) search revealed it :D
[04:02] <crdlb> scales, ugh
[04:02] <crdlb> scales, you can't do that on top of envy
[04:03] <WebAppMonkey> benjamin_hr: If you don't I'd suggest you read the dot sometime. http://dot.kde.org
[04:04] <scales> crdlb: what to do next ....can i start the drivers today or no
[04:04] <crdlb> scales, if you reinstall the drivers with envy, it /might/ work
[04:04] <benjamin_hr> oh kk
[04:04] <WebAppMonkey> It is filled with all sorts of exciting stuff, like videos of plasma!
[04:05] <benjamin_hr> i read slashdot regularly so dont expect to much excitment from me, but ill look into it :)
[04:05] <azzco> scales: Have you restarted X?
[04:06] <WebAppMonkey> benjamin_hr: Think of it as a nerdier slashdot
[04:08] <sivaji__> azzco alt+ctrl+backspace
[04:08] <MurDoGG> mh ich mchte ein paket deinstallieren ohne die abhngigen pakete zu deinstallieren, wie geht das mit apt-get
[04:08] <benjamin_hr> hehe kk
[04:08] <pag> !de | MurDoGG
[04:08] <ubotu> MurDoGG: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:08] <WebAppMonkey> Time to reboot to my new Kubuntu install
[04:09] <MurDoGG> oh sorry i want to remove a package but don't interest in dependies, how can i solve this with apt-get
[04:10] <sivaji2009> MurDoGG use aptitude
[04:10] <alumno> I Shet in you
[04:11] <llutz> MurDoGG: if you remove a package other depend on, you'll end in broken packages
[04:11] <alumno__> hola
[04:11] <alumno> hola q ac
[04:11] <alumno__> ehhhh aburrirme
[04:11] <alumno__> hola
[04:11] <alumno> yo tambien
[04:12] <alumno__> jajajajaja
[04:12] <alumno__> hdduuuuhrudjujr
[04:12] <sivaji2009> alumno__ are u mad ?
[04:13] <ardchoille> !coc | alumno__
[04:13] <ubotu> alumno__: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:13] <WebAppMonkey> Wow, Adept is the package manager Yast *dreams* of being
[04:15] <alumno__> yr755t
[04:16] <alumno__> qihsuwnicoel
[04:20] <sivaji2009> !openmoko
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openmoko - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <Silent_G> hello, iv downloaded kubuntu DVD and somehow its crashing with a bunch of colours , my video chipset is Via Chrome9 K8m890 and its not supported by most distros but its supported by Vesa, is their anyway or option i can install kubuntu using the vesa driver? or maybe some driver for my chipset?
[04:23] <Boje> moinsen :)
[04:23] <KomiaPoika> whats the package name to install cups
[04:23] <JuJuBee> Am I the only one trying to use ubuntu in a client server env?  What do other people use to handle authentication?
[04:26] <wolferine> JuJuBee, LDAP?
[04:26] <JuJuBee> I am pulling my hair out trying to get it to work.
[04:27] <wolferine> its like everything in life, it was easy, it just wouldnt be worth it :)
[04:28] <hogan> Anyone know why my Wireless card (eth1) will enable for about 2 seconds then disable again?
[04:29] <JuJuBee> wolferine : you using feisty?
[04:30] <JuJuBee> Got any pointers to getting it to work?
[04:30] <ric19new> hi all newbie here
[04:38] <JuJuBee> Where can I find pam/ldap logs?
[04:38] <azzco> How do I add more users in samba, and how do I give them proper access to shared files?
[04:39] <Minataku> Yeah, my Ultra 1 has a bad CG6 >.<
[04:39] <Minataku> Reseating it failed to have any effect
[04:39] <Minataku> Heya, DaSkreech
[04:39] <DaSkreech> H i Minataku
[04:39] <Daisuke_Ido> good morning!
[04:40] <Minataku> My Ultra 1 has a bad CG6 ;o;
[04:40] <DaSkreech> good morning :)
[04:44] <Minataku> Oh well
[04:44] <Minataku> No biggie
[04:44] <Corey8067> Is it possible to upgrade to version 7.04 using the CD without having to reinstall everything?
[04:44] <ardchoille> !upgrade
[04:44] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:44] <DaSkreech> Corey8067: depends on which Cd you mean
[04:44] <Corey8067> DaSkreech: the CD is 7.04, i just got it today
[04:44] <DaSkreech> Corey8067: Live CD or alternate?
[04:44] <ardchoille> Corey8067: From Ship It?
[04:44] <Corey8067> Yeah from ship it
[04:44] <ardchoille> It's a live cd
[04:44] <DaSkreech> Corey8067: Did you get two of them? :-)
[04:44] <Corey8067> 3 actually
[04:44] <DaSkreech> Corey8067: What are the labels on them?
[04:44] <DaSkreech> Oh wait never mind I just got you :(
[04:44] <ardchoille> Corey8067: If you just got that livecd today, it's probably 7.04
[04:44] <Corey8067> Yeah it is
[04:45] <ardchoille> Corey8067: I think you can just pop that cd in and the system will ask if you want to upgrade.
[04:46] <Corey8067> Ok :)
[04:48] <Corey8067> i am impressed with the delievery time as well
[04:48] <ardchoille> How long did it take?
[04:49] <Corey8067> like 2 weeks max
[04:49] <ardchoille> About the same here.
[04:49] <Corey8067> i am gussing that it wasn't stopped at Customs
[04:50] <DexterF> hi
[04:51] <TheGateKeeper> should kubuntu autodetect usb pendrive or do I have to mount & if so what is the syntax?
[04:51] <DexterF> is there a gtk2 theme to match kdes "polyester"? the gtk-qt wrapper isn't working
[04:51] <DexterF> TheGateKeeper: should autodetect and present a win-xp-style pop up what to do with it
[04:53] <TheGateKeeper> DexterF: that is not happening, so how do I mount it?
[04:55] <DexterF> TheGateKeeper: well, look thru /dev/disk/by-id for something that appears to be that stick, then mount as usual (man mount)
[04:56] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: no it wont
[05:00] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: use pmount as user, not mount
[05:00] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: Ok, I must be wrong then
[05:00] <rowenthedark> Is there a way to install software as the specific user as opposed to globally?
[05:00] <fdoving> rowenthedark: not really, no.
[05:00] <fdoving> rowenthedark: nothing supported, anyway.
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Corey8067: You can't upgrade with the Live CD. You need the alternate CD
[05:00] <rowenthedark> :(
[05:00] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: using a using hub would that mess things up?
[05:00] <payam> Anygirls here?
[05:00] <payam> Anygirl wana chatt here?
[05:00] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: makes no difference, i think
[05:00] <rowenthedark> Oh well. Is there a way to autoload beryl at KDE startup?
[05:00] <payam> I give you cam
[05:00] <rowenthedark> payam: I think you are in the wrong channel.
[05:00] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: DexterF http://pastebin.ca/564297
[05:01] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: seems your pendrive isn't recognized at all
[05:02] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: open a console and type "sudo tail -f /var/log/messages", after that plug/unplug the stick and watch the logfiles output.
[05:04] <Jucato> sudo not needed (afaik)
[05:04] <payam> #girls
[05:04] <llutz> Jucato: you're right, sry
[05:05] <Jucato> llutz: it's ok
[05:05] <DaSkreech> payam: please stay on topic
[05:05] <Jucato> !offtopic | payam
[05:05] <ubotu> payam: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:05] <DaSkreech> !coc | payam
[05:05] <ubotu> payam: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:05] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: http://pastebin.ca/564301  these are the additional entries
[05:05] <payam> Im ban there
[05:05] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: plug the stick in and do "sudo fdisk -l"
[05:06] <fdoving> llutz: /var/log/messages isn't used for those in ubuntu, /var/log/syslog is used for everything.
[05:06] <fdoving> .. or more than messages, anyway, not everything.
[05:06] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: all I get with sudo fdisk -l are my hard disk partitions
[05:06] <ubuntu> how to restore linux
[05:06] <ubuntu> ???
[05:07] <fdoving> ubuntu, did you reinstall windows?
[05:07] <payam> ubuntu?
[05:07] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: does "lsusb" list the stick?
[05:07] <ubuntu> i will loose all my data
[05:07] <payam> ubuntu.yes
[05:07] <ubuntu> i'm using the live cd now
[05:07] <payam> Tuff situation
[05:07] <payam> Boot CD
[05:08] <payam> :S
[05:08] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: How did you lose linux?
[05:08] <ubuntu> it crashed because the incorect configuration of display drivers
[05:08] <llutz> fdoving: messages is fine for this
[05:08] <rowenthedark> Hello again: Is there a way to autoload beryl when KDE starts? If so how?
[05:08] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Ah. You need your old xorg.conf
[05:08] <fdoving> llutz: not here.
[05:08] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[05:08] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:09] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: where i can find it?
[05:09] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: no exactly but it does see my hub: http://pastebin.ca/564307  may be I should remove the hub & plug it in directly?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: can you mount your hard drive?
[05:09] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: try it, maybe it's the hub causing the trouble (kick it!)
[05:09] <medkarim> Hi everybody !
[05:09] <payam> medkarim, asalamo aleikom Karim
[05:10] <medkarim> ;)
[05:10] <ubuntu> DaSkreech: how to find out?
[05:10] <azzco> ubuntu you can allways do a "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" if you're able to get to a console on your normal installation
[05:10] <medkarim> Tu es d'ou ?
[05:10] <medkarim> payam
[05:11] <payam> medkarim, do you want something :)
[05:11] <mick> kaffeine plays my dvd's but stops & starts. OK in Ubuntu but not Kubuntu
[05:11] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: that's done the trick :-) bit pants I can't use my usb hub :-(
[05:11] <medkarim> J'ai un probleme avec ma carte son , je suis sous Kubuntu feisty
[05:11] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: it's a passive hub, without own power-supply?
[05:12] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu: run fdisk -l to list the drives, then do mount /somthing /somewhere
[05:12] <ubuntu> can i restore my old xconf
[05:12] <DexterF> TheGateKeeper: there's a hub?
[05:12] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu: maybe, or recreate it
[05:12] <ubuntu> how???
[05:12] <bonbonthejon> look up at azzco
[05:13] <TheGateKeeper> DexterF: no it has it's own power supply
[05:13] <DexterF> TheGateKeeper: the kernel in 7.04 has an experimental usb option for reasons beyond me which f!cks up some usb hubs
[05:13] <bonbonthejon> !fr | medkarim
[05:13] <ubotu> medkarim: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:13] <DexterF> try   dmesg | grep bad  and see if there's something about cables
[05:13] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: : no it has it's own power supply
[05:13] <medkarim> No french help here ?
[05:13] <TheGateKeeper> DexterF: I am using 6.06
[05:13] <ubuntu> !ro | ubuntu
[05:13] <DexterF> oh.
[05:13] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: strange, never had trouble with those...
[05:14] <medkarim> ah , ok
[05:14] <DexterF> umm. well, try without the hub nevertheless, if possible
[05:14] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: anyway, go buy a new one :)
[05:14] <hasan> hi guys
[05:14] <hasan> i need help
[05:14] <hasan> :)
[05:14] <bonbonthejon> !question
[05:14] <hasan> as everybody here
[05:14] <TheGateKeeper> DexterF: llutz oh well at least I have got access to it thanks
[05:14] <azzco> Just tell the question
[05:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:14] <medkarim> Merci
[05:14] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: you can't get to a prompt on your computer at all?
[05:14] <hasan> i try to connect my brand new mpx220 with kubuntu
[05:14] <hasan> but whihout success
[05:15] <hasan> ive install raki and synce
[05:15] <DexterF> TheGateKeeper: does it work now?
[05:15] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: windows reckonises it (ducks for incoming... :-) )
[05:15] <hasan> but it doesnot recognize my mobilephone
[05:15] <hasan> any idea
[05:15] <llutz> TheGateKeeper: then use windows
[05:15] <hasan> anyone who uses smartphone with kubuntu?
[05:15] <hasan> any idea is welcome
[05:15] <payam> I wana learn a little about Glade, anyone who knows a good website? I have googled it! I have found a good side , do please show me
[05:16] <bonbonthejon> hasan: i never got my ipaq to work with linux, but my palms work fine
[05:16] <hasan> thought ive googled i cant find usefull things
[05:16] <TheGateKeeper> DexterF: it's ok if I take the usb hub out & plug the pen drive directly in
[05:16] <payam> edit: ia have not
[05:16] <limale> hello to every body
[05:16] <DexterF> llutz: usually I'm with you on that type of remark but not here, USB_SUSPEND in 7.04 is experimental and doesn't belong in a stable release. yes I know, he doesn't have 7.04, but still I wouldn't rule out a similar thing here.
[05:16] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: I don't have windows on this hdd, & I need a file of it, anyway directly plugging in gets me to where I need to be :/
[05:16] <ubuntu> id like to thank all of you for your help .........nothing explaind .....
[05:17] <azzco> Is there somwhere to go for samba help?
[05:17] <limale> what packet i must install to have correct visualization of battery on my laptop ???
[05:17] <TheGateKeeper> llutz: DexterF cheers guys
[05:17] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: I'm asking you questions
[05:17] <DexterF> got a hub myself that works fine on Slackware, XP, even on the Kub live DVD but not on the installed version
[05:17] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: You haven't answered any
[05:17] <payam> Ubuntu, What was your problem PLZ
[05:17] <DaSkreech> hasan: try http://www.google.com/linux
[05:17] <limale> guidance-power-manager don't work correctly !
[05:18] <DexterF> TheGateKeeper: yw. I guess I'll inquire the developers about that kind of usb issue, happened here, too
[05:18] <ubuntu> kan i reconfigure the xorg to  make my ubuntu workingf
[05:18] <TheGateKeeper> I will go & see what pclinuxos makes of it
[05:18] <DexterF> pcliwhat?
[05:18] <payam> Ubuntu, Whats you language?
[05:18] <TheGateKeeper> DexterF: that would be good
[05:18] <ubuntu> english
[05:18] <payam> ubuntu, say you problem again from bigining
[05:18] <DexterF> *cough*liar*cough*
[05:19] <DexterF> scnr
[05:19] <azzco> ubuntu yes! just reboot into your normal ubuntu then ctrl+ alt + F1 log in then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:19] <limale> are there someone that can help me with control of battery on my laptop ?
[05:19] <ubuntu> my ubuntu crashedbecause the nvidia drivers
[05:19] <payam> okej! keep on
[05:19] <azzco> ubuntu Just do what I told you ;)
[05:19] <crdlb> ubuntu, add -phigh to the command that azzco gave you
[05:19] <limale> azzco: is for me ?
[05:19] <rowenthedark> limale: isnt there a panel option for monitoring the battery?
[05:20] <crdlb> ubuntu, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:20] <DexterF> does the live system create a swap file on found win partitions?
[05:20] <azzco> limale: I was speaking to ubuntu but if it helps you then yes
[05:20] <medkarim> He everybody
[05:20] <limale> azzco: your response is for me ?
[05:21] <azzco> not initally
[05:21] <payam> limale, could you explain for me Ubuntus problem?
[05:21] <crdlb> limale, that won't help you
[05:21] <medkarim> I have a problem with my sound card , i'm running Kubuntu feisty
[05:21] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: can you mount the hard drive ?
[05:22] <payam> med Karim, Have you active your sound card on Bios?
[05:22] <DaSkreech> crdlb, azzco: going to have to help him mount the drive to get onto his system
[05:22] <medkarim> Yes , of course
[05:22] <payam> Are you sure?
[05:22] <payam> Look at it
[05:22] <payam> Do you hear something?
[05:22] <payam> hur
[05:22] <medkarim> Yes , i hear sound but very Low
[05:23] <medkarim> Volume is at 100%
[05:23] <payam> have you right click on Sound icon and seen what s going on there?
[05:23] <azzco> medkarim: is that in kmix?
[05:23] <medkarim> Yes , Kmix
[05:24] <medkarim> payam : Yes I have already do that
[05:24] <payam> medKarin, mmm
[05:24] <payam> medkarim
[05:25] <payam> Have you seen you microfone?
[05:25] <payam> D o they workd correctly?
[05:25] <payam> what the cabel
[05:25] <medkarim> No , I dont have
[05:25] <payam> no no
[05:26] <medkarim> This is my "pc-portable"
[05:26] <payam> i dont mean that
[05:26] <pixelbrei> hi... anyone tried to install mayavi in feisty? i'm getting python-related errors, seems like mayavi wants python 2.4 where 2.5 is installed
[05:26] <payam> medkarim, what s your laguage?
[05:26] <payam> medKarim
[05:27] <payam> aha , okej
[05:27] <medkarim> In fact , i speak Arabic
[05:27] <medkarim> but also
[05:27] <medkarim> french and english !
[05:27] <payam> ubuntu-fr
[05:27] <payam> #ubuntu-fr
[05:27] <payam> You can ask your question there, My english is so bad
[05:27] <payam> :-(
[05:27] <medkarim> Thanks , but i have no solution there
[05:28] <medkarim> No , You speak very good ;)
[05:28] <payam> medKarim, waite
[05:28] <payam> I wana ask somone els
[05:29] <payam> Medkarim do you use Asla derive?
[05:29] <payam> Alsa
[05:29] <medkarim> Yes
[05:30] <payam> wirte " alsamixer" on a terminal
[05:30] <medkarim> ok
[05:31] <medkarim> I have a screen with equalizer (terminal )
[05:31] <medkarim> But master volume is 0%
[05:32] <payam> could you high the volume?
[05:32] <payam> with your soud icon to right?
[05:33] <medkarim> No , there is no Bar for Master volume
[05:33] <medkarim> Only PCM , and Mic
[05:33] <payam> medKarim, no no, what do you do to high your volume normaly
[05:33] <payam> you click on sound icon to right , there down right?
[05:33] <medkarim> With Kmix
[05:33] <medkarim> Yes
[05:34] <payam> medkarim, go on the terminal
[05:34] <medkarim> ok
[05:34] <payam> click on windows and select Master and highit with the Pil on your keybord
[05:34] <sivaji> hendaus : hi
[05:34] <payam> Do you undrstand?
[05:35] <medkarim> No all
[05:35] <payam> look
[05:35] <medkarim> click on terminal ?
[05:35] <payam> new terminal
[05:35] <payam> write " alsamixer"
[05:35] <medkarim> ok
[05:36] <frojnd> does anyone know where I could get some skydome images for beryl?
[05:36] <medkarim> And then ?
[05:36] <sivaji> frojnd #beryl
[05:36] <payam> and click on up pil
[05:36] <payam> on your keybord
[05:37] <payam> and high the volume
[05:37] <medkarim> I have PCM , a
[05:37] <medkarim> PCM at 100% , and Mic at 100%
[05:37] <payam> you can select othersection
[05:37] <payam> medkarim
[05:37] <medkarim> no :(
[05:38] <payam> I see Master-Master IV, headphone
[05:38] <payam> 3D control
[05:38] <payam> I mean them
[05:38] <medkarim> send you screen ?
[05:38] <sivaji> medkarim open kmix and check  the buttons
[05:39] <payam> sicaji, you can help him, i must go
[05:39] <darkrift__> how do i start the adept update checker (not the package manager)
[05:39] <medkarim> Volume is 100% for all channels
[05:39] <darkrift__> mine somehow closed (the tray icon)
[05:39] <payam> medkarim, when you open a terminal and wirted  you can control your volume whith left , right, up, down arrow
[05:39] <darkrift__> and i wanna check for updates
[05:40] <medkarim> I know , but I hear low sound
[05:40] <sivaji> darkrift__ "sudo apt-get update"
[05:40] <darkrift__> no, the gui version
[05:40] <sivaji> darkrift__ use adept
[05:41] <darkrift__> the adept updater that sits in your tray telling you yo have x updates available
[05:41] <darkrift__> i tried adept manager, thats for installing packages
[05:41] <darkrift__> doesnt show me upgradeable ones
[05:41] <limale2> hello
[05:41] <limale2>  :-)
[05:41] <darkrift__> hola
[05:41] <medkarim> How much channel , you can adjust ?
[05:41] <Scullder> 'soir
[05:42] <medkarim> By keyboard
[05:42] <limale2> i have some problem with battery management of my notebook on kubuntu 7.04
[05:42] <sivaji> darkrift__ adept will show u click fetch update later will see upgradable package
[05:42] <limale2> in particular my kde-guidance-power-manager don't work correctly
[05:42] <limale2> some one can help me ?
[05:43] <sivaji> darkrift__ u will have options their like show only installed ,show only upgradable
[05:44] <sivaji> medkarim try #ubuntu
[05:44] <sivaji> limale2 try #ubuntu
[05:44] <darkrift__> ok
[05:44] <darkrift__> i c
[05:45] <limale2> but I have kubuntu !
[05:49] <lucio_> salve
[05:50] <lucio_> qualcuno puo aiutarmi?
[05:51] <Jucato> !it | lucio_
[05:51] <ubotu> lucio_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:52] <lucio_> grazie a te..
[05:52] <lucio_> scusa
[05:53] <limale2> what are the package necessary to manage the battery in notebook using kubuntu ?
[05:56] <Sesshy> Hey, is there anybody here that can help me? I'm having boot problems with a fresh install of Kubuntu.
[05:56] <Sesshy> Hello? Is anybody there?
[05:57] <limale2> yes
[05:57] <limale2> but, nobody answer
[05:57] <Sesshy> could you possibly help me troubleshoot my boot issues, limale2? or are you looking for support as well?
[05:57] <limale2> I don't find any help!
[05:57] <Sesshy> *patpat*
[05:57] <limale2> yes
[05:57] <limale2> I find support for battery management
[05:58] <limale2> but I fon't find nobody that can help me
[05:58] <DexterF> Sesshy: just describe the problem
[05:58] <jacques> Does someone installed realplayer on gutsy?
[05:58] <Sesshy> Well, on a completely fresh install of Kubuntu, single boot, GRUB gives me a completely blank screen on normal bootup
[05:58] <DexterF> i'd ask about gutsy un #ubuntu+1
[05:58] <Sesshy> however,
[05:58] <DexterF> Sesshy: ok: what video card?
[05:59] <limale2> are there someone that have installed package for power (battery) management ?
[05:59] <DexterF> limale2: how does it not work properly?
[05:59] <Sesshy> when pressing esc and booting with recovery mode, it logs in as root with just the console interface, and then I can type "exit", which makes it load KDE normally and everything works fine
[05:59] <limale2> I can't view the level of my battery
[05:59] <Sesshy> 8800GTS
[06:00] <Sesshy> 640 meg version, that is
[06:00] <DexterF> Sesshy: and: is grub itself not showing the boot menu, or do you mean boot messages once you selected a kernel? can you log in, does kdm come up?
[06:00] <soulrider_> Sesshy: maybe you need to pass some parameters to the kernel? =/
[06:00] <Sesshy> yes, if I run GRUB in recovery mode and exit root when it gets to the terminal under recovery mode, it loads KDE normally
[06:00] <Sesshy> but normal boot gives me a black screen and nothing more
[06:00] <Sesshy> even though num locks works
[06:01] <DexterF> Sesshy: and if you just let it boot the default image, all is black and you never get a login screen?
[06:01] <Sesshy> yep
[06:01] <Sesshy> it was the same with ubuntu, as well
[06:01] <jacques> i can not run realplayer and skype on gutsy
[06:01] <Sesshy> I've tried both
[06:01] <Sesshy> both latest downloads of the live DVD
[06:01] <soulrider> Sesshy: remove the splash and quiet options and boot and see if yopu get any errors
[06:01] <limale2> DexterF: I can't view the level of my battery and when I plug-off the ac_adaptor, the software don't change automatically the battery icon !!
[06:01] <soulrider> jacques: for gutsy go to #ubuntu+1
[06:02] <soulrider> jacques: why are you using gutsy anyways, its not even beta
[06:02] <Sesshy> soulrider: how do I remove those options? I have next to zero experience with linux and console commands
[06:02] <Sesshy> I can follow directions, but I need to know what to type
[06:02] <soulrider> Sesshy: when youre selecting the option to boor, press e to edit, just remove those options and press bt o boot
[06:02] <DexterF> hmmm.... looks like the console blocks X or sumsuch. Sesshy, boot to console, and with sudo edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and in the line for the default kernel change "splash quiet" to vga=792, see if that helps
[06:02] <Sesshy> okay, lemme try that, sounds good
[06:03] <soulrider> DexterF: its better if he doesnt make the changes permanent
[06:03] <raccon> ola
[06:04] <DexterF> soulrider: if that permanently fixes it, it would be my choice. edit the line from grub *each time* sounds liek a hassle to me at least.
[06:04] <soulrider> hola
[06:04] <soulrider> DexterF: if that works then make the changed permanent
[06:04] <raccon> Poprtugal is the best
[06:04] <raccon> *portugal
[06:04] <soulrider> !pt | raccon
[06:04] <ubotu> raccon: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:05] <Sesshy> okay, I removed quiet, but there was no splash option that was visible
[06:05] <DexterF> soulrider: ah, see your point. well, I'm pretty sure this doesn't at least make it worse, hence I omitted testing from grub editing.
[06:05] <Sesshy> now I just get a flashing underscore in the upper right hand corner instead of a black screen
[06:05] <DexterF> Sesshy: are you in the system right now?
[06:05] <Sesshy> yes
[06:06] <DexterF> can you paste the menu.lst on a pastebin? without passwords, if there are any of course
[06:06] <Sesshy> also, there seems to be two kernel versions to boot from here
[06:06] <Sesshy> 2.6.20-16 and -15
[06:06] <soulrider> Sesshy: choose any
[06:06] <Sesshy> I did run updates when I had KDE running previously
[06:06] <soulrider> -16 is newer
[06:06] <DexterF> is there a kaffeine-0.8.4 package for feisty?
[06:07] <soulrider> !info kaffeine
[06:07] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 2186 kB, installed size 6044 kB
[06:07] <coreymon77> not on the regular repos
[06:07] <coreymon77> but you may be able to find a repo for it on the kaffeine site
[06:08] <DexterF> soulrider: I know, that's what I have, hence I ask. I'm a little new to kubuntu and don't know all the hotshot 3rd party repositories yet
[06:08] <Sesshy> okay, I removed the splash and quiet options from the end of the first line of the -16 boot option
[06:08] <DexterF> google didnt bring up anything. well, ok, if all else fails UTSL :)
[06:08] <Sesshy> and it loaded fine
[06:08] <soulrider> DexterF: i never really used 3rd party repos in ubuntu
[06:08] <Sesshy> but I suspect that was only a temporary change?
[06:08] <soulrider> Sesshy: yes
[06:09] <DexterF> Sesshy: if you edited like I said: yes. if you did it from the grub "e" command: no
[06:09] <soulrider> now you gotta edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and make the changed permanent
[06:09] <DexterF> soulrider: i like bleeding edge ;)
[06:09] <Sesshy> soulrider/DexterF: okay, yes, I used the grub e command. How do I permanently edit the boot file?
[06:09] <coreymon77> DexterF: doesnt seem bleeding edge to me
[06:09] <coreymon77> DexterF: 0.8.4 is stable
[06:10] <Sesshy> I'm at the Konsole in KDE
[06:10] <DexterF> Sesshy: boot, grab your fav. editor and sudo <editor> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:10] <DexterF> vi, mcedit, whatever you favor
[06:10] <Sesshy> okay
[06:10] <soulrider> Sesshy: i suggets you use nano
[06:10] <DexterF> coreymon77: I used .4 on Slackware, know its stable, still it's the latest versionm that's kinda bleeding edge to me
[06:11] <DexterF> nano's cool, too
[06:11] <Sesshy> by the way, what is the default root password? I noticed that I wasn't prompted for one during the Kubuntu setup
[06:11] <Sesshy> and I also can't seem to use su
[06:11] <WebAppMonkey> In under an hour I switched from OpenSuSe to Kubuntu and have everything back to the way it was. Linux has come a long way, and it rocks! :)
[06:11] <llutz> Sesshy: theres no root-account, use sudo
[06:12] <llutz> Sesshy: that's ubuntus special philosophy....
[06:12] <WebAppMonkey> llutz: Do you know the reasoning behind that?
[06:12] <Sesshy> llutz: interesting, is that just the way that ubuntu's set up?
[06:12] <Sesshy> yeah, I was wondering the same as WebAppMonkey
[06:12] <llutz> WebAppMonkey: they wanted to improve system-security ....
[06:13] <WebAppMonkey> llutz: And how does removing the root account and instead giving users full-access through sudo help?
[06:13] <llutz> WebAppMonkey: they prevent users from working all the time as root
[06:13] <llutz> now, users use all useless commands with sudo in front :(
[06:13] <llutz> WebAppMonkey: i don't see any improvement in this
[06:14] <DexterF> Sesshy: sudo bash gives you a root shell
[06:14] <llutz> sudo su too
[06:14] <llutz> sudo password creates a root-account
[06:14] <DexterF> intersting
[06:14] <DexterF> can i still sudo like before?
[06:15] <llutz> sure
[06:15] <WebAppMonkey> It seems far less secure than a normal root/user seperation though... by using the same password etc...
[06:15] <llutz> WebAppMonkey: that's what i think too
[06:15] <DexterF> me, too
[06:16] <Sesshy> okay, well, I edited the menu.lst file even though kate gave me a bunch of errors in the console before actually opening it, I suppose it doesn't matter
[06:16] <llutz> but anyway, they decided to this, so we have to use it or not
[06:16] <Sesshy> gonna reboot
[06:16] <tom_> anyone know how i can use opengl over vnc?
[06:16] <WebAppMonkey> sudo su
[06:16] <WebAppMonkey> passwd
[06:16] <WebAppMonkey> will let you change the root password to a known value
[06:16] <WebAppMonkey> And removing a user from the admin group will remove sudo privs
[06:17] <DexterF> tom_: haha. forget it.
[06:17] <DexterF> tom_: I'd rather ssh -X and forward the entire gl app
[06:17] <coreymon77> DexterF: it should be in the repos
[06:17] <tom_> has no1 tried virtualgl?
[06:17] <Sesshy> sweet, removing the splash and quiet parameters worked, boots just fine now
[06:17] <Sesshy> thanks a lot, guys
[06:17] <DexterF> yw
[06:17] <llutz> WebAppMonkey: but kdesu/gksu are also linked to sudo, not to su. so you might run in trouble when remove your user from admin-grp
[06:18] <DexterF> tom_: never hear about that one
[06:18] <Sesshy> so according to google, it sounds like the splash screen is a known issue with ubuntu
[06:18] <Sesshy> is that the case?
[06:18] <tom_> DexterF: kk
[06:18] <WebAppMonkey> llutz: Yuck
[06:18] <fdoving> llutz: you can configure kdesu to use su.
[06:18] <Sesshy> you guys seemed to know exactly what I needed to do
[06:18] <llutz> fdoving: really? never checked that. tnx
[06:18] <fdoving> llutz: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FrodeDoeving/Tips
[06:18] <DexterF> Sesshy: got sth similar, no text during splash, but login comes up. guess  ill file a bug
[06:18] <fdoving> llutz: tip 5.
[06:19] <llutz> fdoving: too easy :)
[06:19] <Sesshy> what does the quiet parameter do, by the way? I'm guessing the splash is equivalent to the XP loading screen
[06:19] <WebAppMonkey> I am having problems running a 32-bit GLU app (defcon) on my 64-bit system. I can't find a GLU-compat in the default repos, is there a special compat repo I have to add?
[06:19] <coreymon77> Sesshy: youre new to linux arent you
[06:20] <Sesshy> coreymon77: absolutely, I have basically zero experience
[06:20] <DexterF> I'm not and I don't know eiither
[06:20] <Sesshy> I really don't know anything yet
[06:20] <DexterF> I just never had fancy eye candy
[06:20] <fdoving> Sesshy: quiet outputs less messages, when booting.
[06:20] <coreymon77> Sesshy: first tip of linux
[06:20] <coreymon77> Sesshy: dont make comparissons to windoze
[06:20] <DexterF> who would want *less* messages about the boot process?
[06:20] <BlueDevil> where can i find the tutorial for compiling the kernel?
[06:21] <fdoving> DexterF: most people with a working system? :)
[06:21] <Sesshy> coreymon77: yes, I understand that it's completely different, I merely have nothing else with which to reference in my own mind XD
[06:21] <WebAppMonkey> BlueDevil: make menuconfig, make, make modules, make modules_install, make install
[06:21] <alexander__> yo anyone here?
[06:21] <coreymon77> hi
[06:21] <WebAppMonkey> BlueDevil: Just make sure your root filesystem is compiled INTO the kernel, NOT as a module.
[06:21] <BlueDevil> WebAppMonkey: nah, i need the proper stuff which creates packages
[06:21] <DexterF> fdoving: the way kubuntu makes bold moves towards bleeding edge even in the kernel, "less messages" sounds like a bad idea to me
[06:21] <llutz> WebAppMonkey: no "make install", build a package
[06:22] <[nk] > make-kpkg kernel_image
[06:22] <[nk] > !
[06:22] <Sesshy> fdoving: I have to agree with DexterF, I always disable my bios splash screens and the like
[06:22] <BlueDevil> WebAppMonkey: i will keep the existing config, just add himem support
[06:22] <WebAppMonkey> Bah, you package-mangement people....
[06:22] <WebAppMonkey> You're all weird
[06:22] <BlueDevil> WebAppMonkey: i can't believe nowadays a kernel is shipped without himem/PAE enabled
[06:22] <fdoving> DexterF: ok. you're free to have that opinion :)
[06:22] <limale2> I have some problem with the level battery indicator of my Kde in kubuntu 7.04: the level battery indicator, indicate always the AC-Adaptor, also when I use the battery !! Are there someone can help me with this problem ?? Thanks
[06:22] <[nk] > :)
[06:23] <BlueDevil> WebAppMonkey: how do i generate the initrd image?
[06:23] <[nk] > make-kpkg is a good way of keeping apt happy
[06:23] <WebAppMonkey> BlueDevil: I'm fresh from slackware, nowadays the kernel is still 2.2 ;)
[06:23] <BlueDevil> cool :)
[06:23] <llutz> hehe, my last slack was 2.2 :)
[06:23] <BlueDevil> left slack behind in '98 :)
[06:24] <[nk] > BlueDevil: 'make-kpkg kernel_image' will build a .deb that you can dpkg -i
[06:24] <DexterF> WebAppMonkey: liar :) pat packs 2.6 by default in -current
[06:24] <WebAppMonkey> Oh wait, it's 2.4.. sorry :)
[06:24] <WebAppMonkey> DexterF: Ohhh, when did that happen?
[06:24] <[nk] > bluedevil: the initrd and everything will be built automagically
[06:24] <Sesshy> So, all you experienced linux users, I've been meaning to ask one of you ever since I started getting all confused with the guides that have you do all of the console operations
[06:24] <Sesshy> where's a good place to start learning to be an advanced user?
[06:25] <BlueDevil> [nk] : do i need to dpkg -i the initrd or will it be placed in /boot automatically?
[06:25] <Sesshy> I'm not an idiot, and I learn fast; I just need to know the best way to get experience
[06:25] <coreymon77> Sesshy: use your system
[06:25] <DexterF> WebAppMonkey: after the big pause after 11.0, when he fumbled the all-2.6.-headers in and threw out some old cruft
[06:25] <coreymon77> Sesshy: thats how
[06:25] <alexander__> PEOPLE i think this is no help channel but i have a question about printers... is there any possibility to get the printer LEXMARK P6350 working on Kubuntu/Ubuntu?????
[06:25] <WebAppMonkey> Sesshy: My suggestion would be to start playing around with a terminal
[06:25] <DexterF> few weeks ago
[06:25] <alexander__> PEOPLE i think this is no help channel but i have a question about printers... is there any possibility to get the printer LEXMARK P6350 working on Kubuntu/Ubuntu?????
[06:25] <coreymon77> Sesshy: the best way to learn is to just use linux
[06:25] <alexander__> s5y
[06:25] <alexander__> sry
[06:25] <[nk] > BlueDevil: it all gets cp'd over to /boot
[06:25] <DexterF> alexander__: this *is* a help chan but try linuxprinting.org, they have a database
[06:25] <coreymon77> alexander__: probably
[06:25] <coreymon77> alexander__: and watch your atitude
[06:25] <alexander__> no they don't
[06:25] <Sesshy> coreymon77: that makes sense, but how do you learn all of the console commands? is there a big list of them somewhere that you can memorize or reference?
[06:25] <WebAppMonkey> DexterF: Crazy, I thought he would never call 2.6 stable
[06:25] <coreymon77> alexander__: if you ever want to get help, be a little nicer
[06:26] <limale2> I have some problem with the level battery indicator of my Kde in kubuntu 7.04: the level battery indicator, indicate always the AC-Adaptor, also when I use the battery !! Are there someone can help me with this problem ?? Thanks
[06:26] <alexander__> ok
[06:26] <coreymon77> Sesshy: do them one at a time
[06:26] <coreymon77> Sesshy: first one to learn is apt
[06:26] <WebAppMonkey> Sesshy: type in a few letters and hit [tab] [tab]  It'll give you a list of commands there
[06:26] <alexander__> it was not my intention to be rough but my english isn't really good
[06:26] <Sesshy> coreymon77: okay, that sounds good, thanks! ^^
[06:26] <DexterF> WebAppMonkey: "stable" wasn't *that* much of an issue lately but rather teh headers, going all 2.6 headers breaks some old stuff. most distros have heavily patched/merged headers
[06:26] <[nk] > BlueDevil: /etc/kernel-*.conf has neat stuff in it
[06:27] <alexander__> and... no they don't have any drivers
[06:27] <BlueDevil> [nk] : there a tutorial that says to do "AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs" what's that all about?
[06:27] <coreymon77> alexander__: ill give it a try
[06:27] <Sesshy> coreymon77: ooh, hitting tab twice after entering a command gives you a list of different syntaxes, huh? o.o
[06:27] <coreymon77> alexander__: whats the printer?
[06:27] <WebAppMonkey> Oh, I still have a problem with getting some GLU 32-bit compat libraries... Any suggested repositories?
[06:27] <alexander__> LEXMARK P6350
[06:27] <coreymon77> Sesshy: yes, tab completion, very useful to learn
[06:27] <DexterF> alexander__: they so totally have a database
[06:28] <alexander__> no it is the P6250
[06:28] <[nk] > BlueDevil: hm, another way of building the debs, I suppose.  I don't bother with fakeroot as I always build/install the kernel as root
[06:28] <BlueDevil> [nk] : will i need to rebuild the nvidia drivers for the new kernel?
[06:29] <[nk] > BlueDevil: yep, sure will
[06:29] <alexander__> sry...
[06:29] <alexander__> i searched some days ago... they had no infos about the printer
[06:29] <Jabapyth> Where (on my computer) is the list of things that get executed every time I log in?
[06:29] <llutz> alexander__: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-P6350
[06:29] <DexterF> Jabapyth: /etc/init.d
[06:30] <DexterF> Jabapyth: oh wait, my fault
[06:30] <Jabapyth> thaks
[06:30] <Sesshy> coreymon77: so I hit tab twice in a blank field and I get a confirmation for a list of 1818 possible commands. Is that an exhaustive list of all possible console commands?
[06:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: dont try to learn them all
[06:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: take it slow
[06:30] <limale2> I have some problem with the level battery indicator of my Kde in kubuntu 7.04: the level battery indicator, indicate always the AC-Adaptor, also when I use the battery !! Are there someone can help me with this problem ?? Thanks
[06:30] <Jabapyth> DexterF: what?
[06:30] <DexterF> Jabapyth: got you wrong, confused boot time / login.
[06:30] <Sesshy> coreymon7: Of course not, I was just curious o.o
[06:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: heres something you gotta learn about linux
[06:30] <DexterF> Jabapyth: what do you mean, like autostart apps or rather settings?
[06:30] <Jabapyth> DexterF: autostart apps
[06:31] <alexander__> but theres no driver ... nor any help
[06:31] <coreymon77> Sesshy: you are used to windows, and in windows, it doesnt let you do anyting that will muck up your system
[06:31] <WebAppMonkey> Sesshy: Yeah, that'll list all available commands -- Also, typing in a few letters of a command and hitting tab once will finish typing the command if you have a unique start... ie, lspcm[tab] 
[06:31] <alexander__> shall I post a topic?
[06:31] <llutz> alexander__: ask lexmark for a driver
[06:31] <DexterF> Jabapyth: /home/<username>/.kde/Autostart. you can drag apps from the menu into konqueror there and select "link"
[06:31] <coreymon77> Sesshy: the thing with linux is, especially with the terminal, that sure you have way more control, but you also have the control to fark up your system royally
[06:31] <Jabapyth> DexterF: thanks!
[06:31] <DexterF> yw
[06:31] <llutz> alexander__: http://www.lexmark.com/lexmark/sequentialem/home/0,6959,204816596_659668505_0_en,00.html
[06:31] <[nk] > BlueDevil: if you want the kernel-headers installed as a package, too, you could just run 'make-kpkg binary-arch' which will build kernel_image and kernel_headers
[06:32] <fdoving> Jabapyth: by default there is also a "restore previous session" feature enabled. that means, all apps left running when you logged out, are restarted.
[06:32] <DexterF> a'ight, afk
[06:32] <Sesshy> WebAppMonkey: Ah, I see, invaluable tip, thanks ^^
[06:32] <alexander__> i sent a mail two days ago ... they didn't answer...
[06:32] <WebAppMonkey> Sesshy: for instance, anything involving the command `rm` remove, and /* (from root, everything) is very baddd
[06:33] <Sesshy> WebAppMonkey: Well, yes, I do know that I'm not supposed to stay logged in as root due to the risk of damaging important system files, hence the sudo and su commands, right?
[06:33] <coreymon77> Sesshy: yes, in linux you can do anything
[06:33] <coreymon77> Sesshy: so never go playing around in terminal windows
[06:34] <coreymon77> Sesshy: do things graphically at first
[06:34] <coreymon77> and slowly start to learn other things
[06:34] <coreymon77> Sesshy: the nist important command for you to learn first is how to use apt
[06:35] <Sesshy> coreymon77: what kind of tasks is apt used for?
[06:35] <coreymon77> apt is for installing stuff
[06:35] <Sesshy> it looks like it's for managing packages or something
[06:35] <coreymon77> and for upgrading
[06:35] <alexander__> http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:495:0:0   ... no linux support
[06:35] <coreymon77> alexander__: im sorry, its not possible at the moment
[06:36] <coreymon77> !apt
[06:36] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:36] <coreymon77> if you ever want to install something, apt is the best and eaist way to dfo it
[06:37] <alexander__> isn't there something like an universal driver?
[06:37] <coreymon77> Sesshy: not everything is on apt, but most are
[06:37] <Sesshy> coreymon77: but should I prefer a command interface over a graphical one for installing packages?
[06:37] <coreymon77> alexander__: nope
[06:37] <alexander__> i heard something similar before...
[06:37] <alexander__> oh
[06:37] <alexander__> ok
[06:37] <darkrift__> !adept
[06:37] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:37] <llutz> alexander__: universal drivers need standarized hardware lexmark isn't
[06:37] <coreymon77> Sesshy: nope, its all personal preference
[06:37] <alexander__> okeydokey...
[06:37] <alexander__> thank you...
[06:37] <Sesshy> does the graphical interface not display all of the packages that are accessible through apt?
[06:37] <coreymon77> Sesshy: it makes no difference whether you do it command line or graphical, its all what you feel comfortable with
[06:38] <Sesshy> ah, I see
[06:38] <coreymon77> Sesshy: no, graphicxal methods are the exact same as command line
[06:38] <alexander__> shall I post news about the printer... I think, shall I post the email reply in ubuntuforums or anywhere else???
[06:38] <alexander__> If I get one
[06:38] <coreymon77> Sesshy: it makes no difference
[06:38] <Sesshy> coreymon77 or ubotu: how do you recommend I go about installing the drivers for my 8800GTS?
[06:39] <coreymon77> ubotu is a bot
[06:39] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[06:39] <darkrift__> lol
[06:39] <Sesshy> ah, I see XD
[06:39] <Sesshy> I don't feel very smart today :3
[06:39] <coreymon77> Sesshy: what do you want to install?
[06:39] <Sesshy> nVidia drivers for my 8800GTS
[06:40] <jason10> on the subject of package guis ..  i heard that using both synaptic and adept can cause problems, and that i should stick to just one or the other, is that true?
[06:40] <coreymon77> Sesshy: you are using feisty right?
[06:40] <Sesshy> coreymon77: I had done all of that with Fedora 7 using a guide that described exactly what package servers/etc. to access via console commands
[06:40] <Sesshy> but I'm sure that it's totally different with Ubuntu because it's a different package system
[06:40] <BlueDevil> [nk] : i don't suppose there's an already built kernel with HIGHMEM support besides the bigiron kernels
[06:40] <Sesshy> and yes, I'm on Feisty
[06:41] <coreymon77> Sesshy: there is probably an easier way
[06:41] <[nk] > BlueDevil: no idea :)
[06:41] <BlueDevil> [nk] : where can i express my frustation? :)
[06:41] <Fable> hey guys. i have a question about beryl. when i start it the 3D effect where i should see a cube, i see a decagon. please help
[06:41] <fdoving> BlueDevil: are you on feisty?
[06:41] <[nk] > bahaha
[06:41] <BlueDevil> fdoving: yes
[06:41] <fdoving> BlueDevil: how much mem?
[06:41] <BlueDevil> 4GB
[06:42] <BlueDevil> it's pretty dumb that in this day and age a kernel gets shipped without HIGHMEM support
[06:42] <Fable> anyone?
[06:42] <BlueDevil> i wonder what was the reasoning behind that :-/
[06:42] <fdoving> BlueDevil: well, they are not. they support 4GB out of the box. 'grep HIGHMEM /boot/config-2.6.20-16-generic' to check.
[06:43] <Fable> can someone help me please.
[06:43] <llutz> BlueDevil:  CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y , CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y
[06:43] <fdoving> Fable: #ubuntu-effects might be more helpfull for beryl issues. they are experts.
[06:43] <Sesshy> Hm, now Adept says that I have the "nvidia-kernel-common" package installed, but to be quite honest I'm not sure if that means I have working drivers
[06:43] <Fable> ok thanks
[06:44] <BlueDevil> fdoving & llutz : indeed
[06:44] <Sesshy> I mean, I still have choppy/sluggish interface performance characteristic of that without drivers
[06:44] <coreymon77> Sesshy: the GeForce 8800 GTS right?
[06:44] <Sesshy> so I think I need to get them somehow..
[06:44] <BlueDevil> then why would it "see" only 2G on my box?
[06:44] <Sesshy> coreymon77: Yes, that's it, the 640 meg version
[06:45] <BlueDevil> fdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25399/ that's what it outputs on my box
[06:45] <llutz> BlueDevil: and what are you missing?
[06:46] <BlueDevil> llutz: what do you mean?
[06:46] <llutz> BlueDevil: " Warning only 4GB will be used."  <- so what?
[06:46] <BlueDevil> in /proc/meminfo i get this: MemTotal:      2059300 kB
[06:47] <BlueDevil> if i boot a bigiron kernel it "sees" all 4GB
[06:47] <Sesshy> coreymon77: should I install the "nvidia-glx" package? Its description says "XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver", but I'm running x86-64, so shouldn't there be a 64-bit version of the driver for me?
[06:47] <coreymon77> Sesshy: we will see
[06:47] <BlueDevil> fwiw, i'm on a core2duo e6600 with an asus p5b-deluxe mobo
[06:48] <BlueDevil> i don't suppose a bios update will help...
[06:49] <coreymon77> Sesshy: first type this
[06:49] <coreymon77> sudo apt-get update
[06:49] <coreymon77> into a terminal
[06:49] <brendan_> hi, whenver i run amarok, or kaffiene they just lock up
[06:50] <Sesshy> hm, "unable to lock the administration directory"
[06:50] <Sesshy> oh, wait
[06:50] <coreymon77> did you use sudo?
[06:50] <Sesshy> that could be because I had Adept open
[06:50] <coreymon77> ya
[06:50] <coreymon77> no worrys
[06:50] <BlueDevil> you've given up hope on me :((
[06:50] <brendan_> arts is working because i get all the normal system sounds, and flash playes audio
[06:50] <coreymon77> you can use adept if you want
[06:50] <Sesshy> there we go
[06:50] <coreymon77> okay
[06:50] <coreymon77> sudo apt-get udpate
[06:51] <coreymon77> update
[06:51] <Sesshy> yep, looks like that worked
[06:51] <Sesshy> what next?
[06:51] <coreymon77> sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[06:52] <BluesKaj> brendan_, sudo apt-get install xine
[06:52] <fdoving> BlueDevil: you don't miss out much memory, you can of course recompile the kernel with 64G support, but i would never bother.
[06:53] <Sesshy> coreymon77: okay, cool, that's downloading/unpacking
[06:53] <BlueDevil> fdoving: i miss half my memory (2G)
[06:53] <Sesshy> done
[06:53] <fdoving> BlueDevil: so you have 8G  memory?
[06:53] <brendan_> BluesKaj: it says there is no installation candidate
[06:53] <Sesshy> what does the restricted-manager parameter mean, by the way? sorry, I'm just one of those people that does things much better if I know what's happening and why XD
[06:53] <BlueDevil> fdoving: no, i have 4G, but it only sees 2G
[06:54] <coreymon77> Sesshy: thats the package name
[06:54] <BlueDevil> fdoving: in /proc/meminfo i get this: MemTotal:      2059300 kB
[06:54] <Sesshy> BlueDevil: if you're running 32-bit, chances are you won't see all of your RAM
[06:54] <coreymon77> Sesshy: apt downloads packages from sites called repositories and then isntalls them to your system
[06:54] <BlueDevil> Sesshy: i know, but i hope it'll see about 3.5GB instead of the current 2GB
[06:54] <DJServers> !Nvidia
[06:54] <BlueDevil> Sesshy: it should see it all with PAE
[06:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:55] <Sesshy> BlueDevil: I hear that RAM recognition using 32-bit systems is mobo-dependent or something like that. I don't personally know, though, just what I hear XD
[06:55] <fdoving> BlueDevil: you're suffering from this: http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2005-11/msg00274.html
[06:55] <BluesKaj> brendan look for xine in adept ..amarok-xine and kaffeine-xine
[06:55] <Sesshy> BlueDevil: errr, 32-bit OSes, I meant. Even on 64-bit hardware people running 32-bit OS supposedly can't see all RAM
[06:56] <DJServers> cant you see it inKinforCenter ?
[06:57] <brendan_> BluesKaj: amarok-xine, kaffiene-xine, libxine1 and libxine1-kde is installed
[06:57] <coreymon77> Sesshy: okay, so is that done installing
[06:58] <Sesshy> coreymon77: yes, restricted-manager is all done
[06:58] <coreymon77> okay
[06:58] <coreymon77> since im not too sure where that isntalled to
[06:58] <coreymon77> type sudo restricted-manager
[06:59] <BlueDevil> fdoving: reading
[06:59] <crdlb> Sesshy, that driver won't work on the 8800
[06:59] <BluesKaj> brendan libxine-extracodecs
[06:59] <coreymon77> Sesshy: is it open?
[06:59] <fdoving> BlueDevil: basically it says your bios is responsible for this, and you need a 64G highmem enabled kernel to be able to address all your memory, because the bios makes "holes" like that.
[06:59] <Sesshy> coreymon77: okay, that opened a GUI screen that appears to be downloading drivers
[07:00] <crdlb> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/103050
[07:00] <coreymon77> well, do you see your nvidia card in the list?
[07:00] <Sesshy> crdlb: really? is there another source from which I should get the drivers?
[07:00] <coreymon77> crdlb: this works
[07:00] <crdlb> coreymon77, it doesn't work for the 8800
[07:00] <coreymon77> crdlb: i know it as a fact
[07:00] <crdlb> no it doesn't
[07:00] <coreymon77> crdlb: yes it does
[07:00] <crdlb> do you have an 8800?
[07:00] <coreymon77> crdlb: the 8800 is in teh lsit of cards that it works with
[07:00] <crdlb> coreymon77, it is but it doesn't work
[07:01] <BlueDevil> fdoving: can i get my bios version from linux? i want to check if an update exists and look at the changelog
[07:01] <crdlb> read the bug I linked to
[07:01] <coreymon77> crdlb: the 8800 gls
[07:01] <crdlb> coreymon77, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/103050
[07:01] <Sesshy> crdlb: is there a solution at this time, or am I driverless?
[07:01] <brendan_> BluesKaj: hmm that didn't seem to help
[07:01] <Sesshy> crdlb: because I know that I had working drivers for my card under Fedora, I just used a guide that told me a special alternate way to get them
[07:01] <crdlb> Sesshy, I'm not sure what the best solution is atm
[07:02] <coreymon77> Sesshy: then dont do i
[07:02] <fdoving> BlueDevil: might be possible, i don't know.
[07:02] <coreymon77> t
[07:02] <coreymon77> Sesshy: your fine for now
[07:02] <crdlb> Sesshy, you can manually copy over the libwfb.so
[07:02] <Sesshy> crdlb: what is that file? is that a driver that's confirmed to work with the 8800?
[07:02] <llutz> BlueDevil:  sudo dmidecode |grep -i -A 6 BIOS\ Information
[07:02] <crdlb> Sesshy, the driver the restricted manager installs /does/ support the 8800
[07:03] <coreymon77> crdlb: all he needs is that file right?
[07:03] <crdlb> however when it was packaged by ubuntu, they left out that file
[07:03] <coreymon77> crdlb: cant he get it from somehwere?
[07:03] <crdlb> coreymon77, yes
[07:03] <BlueDevil> llutz: thanks
[07:03] <crdlb> yes
[07:03] <coreymon77> crdlb: well then problem solved
[07:03] <Sesshy> crdlb: ah, I see, so I just need to cover up their mistake by manually editing in the file
[07:03] <coreymon77> crdlb: isntalls the driver, gets the file
[07:03] <coreymon77> crdlb: problem solved
[07:03] <crdlb> yes that should do it
[07:04] <Sesshy> crdlb: okay, where do I get the file, and where do I manually copy it to?
[07:04] <DJServers> lol ;P now it is hard :P
[07:04] <coreymon77> crdlb: wouldnt he have to install the driver first
[07:04] <coreymon77> ?
[07:05] <crdlb> coreymon77, yes
[07:05] <Sesshy> coreymon77: driver is installed, yes
[07:05] <crdlb> Sesshy, try this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/98641/comments/18
[07:05] <Sesshy> crdlb: it's installed and wants me to reboot. I presume that I should copy that file before rebooting?
[07:05] <coreymon77> Sesshy: most likeley
[07:06] <Sesshy> crdlb: okay, that says i386 fix, but I'm running an x86-64 install
[07:06] <crdlb> Sesshy, indeed
[07:06] <Sesshy> crdlb: is that a problem?
[07:06] <crdlb> yep
[07:06] <Sesshy> crdlb: crap, well, wait, was the original problem only with the i386 files? should the x86-64 drivers have all the needed resources?
[07:07] <crdlb> Sesshy, no it's just that fix is written for 386
[07:07] <Sesshy> crdlb: argh, that puts me between a rock and a hard spot x_x
[07:07] <Sesshy> or so it sounds
[07:07] <crdlb> If you just get the 64bit version of the intaller, it should work
[07:07] <coreymon77> well, there has to be something for 64 bit
[07:08] <BluesKaj> brendan_, I would check in both amarok and kaffeine options & settings to make sure both are using the xine-engine
[07:08] <coreymon77> crdlb: where would we find the 64 bit verison
[07:09] <Sesshy> crdlb: okay, well, I guess I would try to browse the linked nVidia resource website for the 64-bit version of that same file, but I'm not sure where to find a root directory
[07:09] <francois> hi, i have a external drive that wont automount, but when i mount it manually i dont have permission to view it, help ?
[07:09] <crdlb> Sesshy, wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run
[07:10] <Sesshy> crdlb: awesome, thanks.
[07:10] <BlueDevil> <-- upgrading bios
[07:10] <jacques> how can add some langage to my locales?
[07:10] <coreymon77> Sesshy: that will do it
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> BlueDevil: nothing to it.
[07:11] <DJServers> someone nows the game sa-mp? ( www.sa-mp.com ) i still dont now how to install the server :p
[07:11] <Sesshy> now, will this wget command override the driver installed by restricted-manager? there won't be any conflicts if I leave it where it is (asking me to reboot) will there?
[07:11] <coreymon77> Sesshy: wget doesnt install anything
[07:11] <coreymon77> Sesshy: it jsut downloads it
[07:12] <coreymon77> Sesshy: you have to run the file yourself
[07:12] <Sesshy> coreymon77: yeah, I was going to follow the other command instructions on that link, but after running all of those, is that essentially replacing what the restricted-manager did?
[07:12] <coreymon77> Sesshy: not really, its just adding that extra file probably
[07:12] <crdlb> Sesshy, no
[07:12] <crdlb> exactly
[07:13] <Sesshy> crdlb: ah, I see, good, good
[07:13] <crdlb> Sesshy, but you'll have to change the sudo cp -f line
[07:13] <stamen> hi
[07:13] <crdlb> to the right path
[07:13] <stamen> how to install the newest open office
[07:13] <coreymon77> Sesshy: what the restricted0manager did was good, it got you the driver that you needed, its just missing one file, this thing gets that file for you and puts it in the right place
[07:13] <stamen> all is in rpm's
[07:13] <coreymon77> stamen: cant you jsut apt it
[07:14] <stamen> I dont't have the source adress for edgy
[07:14] <coreymon77> arent they already in the repos
[07:14] <stamen> coreymon77: could you give it them to me if you have it
[07:14] <stamen> no
[07:14] <stamen> I think
[07:14] <coreymon77> stamen: what version of openoffice is this?
[07:15] <stamen> I want 2.2.1
[07:15] <stamen> I have 2.2.0
[07:15] <stamen> errot
[07:15] <coreymon77> oh
[07:15] <stamen> I have faisty
[07:15] <coreymon77> well then it isnt in the repos
[07:15] <coreymon77> is there a reason that you need this
[07:15] <stamen> feisty
[07:16] <stamen> lets say yes
[07:16] <stamen> :)
[07:16] <coreymon77> a .0.0,1 upgrade cant be much of a big difference
[07:16] <Sesshy> crdlb: by the way, how did you find the path for the 64 file? I also noticed that it's package 2 instead of package one, so you must have actually searched for it and not just altered the file names on a guess
[07:16] <crdlb> Sesshy, nvidia.com>download drivers>Linux>64bit archive :P
[07:17] <erichj> i switched to KDE last night and i still can't believe how much nicer than Gnome it is.
[07:17] <coreymon77> Sesshy: sometimes, the place to find the dirver is where they would normally be
[07:17] <Sesshy> crdlb: ah, I see, I see :3
[07:17] <coreymon77> Sesshy: nvidia supports linux
[07:18] <DexterF> well, they provide a binary driver.
[07:18] <stamen> coreymon77: but they have fixes
[07:18] <DexterF> but at least one that works, unlike ati :(
[07:18] <BlueDevil> new bios didn't fix it...
[07:19] <DexterF> !build
[07:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:19] <BlueDevil> off to building a new kernel...
[07:19] <DJServers> can someone help me in stall the server from this site: http://www.sa-mp.com/download.cml
[07:19] <BlueDevil> and nvidia drivers....
[07:19] <BlueDevil> and...
[07:19] <BlueDevil> :)
[07:19] <Sesshy> okay, the second line of code on that post there, "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2 -x" says that sh can't open the file
[07:20] <BluesKaj> DexterF, there is afix and modded patch for the ATI fglrx driver ... it's ahrd to find but if you want to check this out here's a URL : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[07:20] <javier_> Hello!
[07:20] <coreymon77> Sesshy: try openning as rot
[07:21] <javier_> Do you know if there is an easy way to set up a printer server using Samba?
[07:21] <DexterF> BluesKaj: I'm actually happier with r300 from Xorg, but thanks anyway. I only need enough 3D juice for Google Earth and the like. fglrx does that quite well, but crashes my machine evry now and then
[07:21] <BluesKaj> javier
[07:21] <coreymon77> Sesshy: the way to open things as root is by sudo ./[filename] 
[07:22] <BluesKaj> DexterF, this one does both google earth and tv video layering if needed
[07:22] <coreymon77> Sesshy: perfect time for tab completion, type the first few letters of the fiel and then press tab
[07:22] <Sesshy> coreymon77: ah, thanks for reminding me, good idea
[07:22] <BluesKaj> DexterF, very stable, no probs yet with crashes
[07:23] <DexterF> my first few days on linux I typed everything out till a friend told me about tab completion :) ah, back then...
[07:23] <Sesshy> XD
[07:23] <Sesshy> coreymon77: well, did the command as root, but it still says it can't open the file
[07:23] <francois> hi, i have a external drive that wont automount, but when i mount it manually i dont have permission to view it, help ?
[07:23] <BluesKaj> javier_, have you tried the printer wizard with cups ?
[07:23] <coreymon77> Sesshy: tell me what you typed
[07:23] <Sesshy> coreymon77: well, actually, it's as if the file isn't there
[07:25] <Sesshy> I typed "sudo sh (filename) -x"
[07:25] <DexterF> BluesKaj: GL and Xv work with r300, too. only annoyance is GL overlaps everything no matter what has focus. well, ill see to fglrx eventually
[07:25] <coreymon77> no
[07:25] <coreymon77> bad
[07:25] <Sesshy> and now what I get is a syntax error, that a new line was expected
[07:25] <coreymon77> sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run
[07:25] <coreymon77> type that
[07:25] <Sesshy> well, I was just following the commands on that bug page o.o
[07:25] <Sesshy> but okay
[07:25] <BluesKaj> DexterF, you won't regret it
[07:26] <DexterF> BluesKaj: oh, forgot: no composite -> no beryl
[07:26] <Sesshy> coreymon77: what's the difference between sh and ./? and what was the -x that the page instructs you to type supposed to do?
[07:26] <coreymon77> no clue
[07:26] <coreymon77> but aparently is wasnt working
[07:26] <coreymon77> so
[07:26] <coreymon77> this is hwo you run files
[07:26] <Sesshy> well, this is saying that the command isn't found
[07:27] <rjune_> what is the tool to enable/disable initscripts in ubuntu? most rpm distros have chkconfig, the equiv in ubuntu is..?
[07:27] <Sesshy> when I type what you told me
[07:27] <soulrider> !nvidia
[07:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:27] <soulrider> Sesshy: install the drivers form the repos
[07:27] <coreymon77> Sesshy: okaty
[07:27] <coreymon77> Sesshy: heres the plan
[07:27] <soulrider> its easier and you probably wont screw anything up
[07:27] <coreymon77> Sesshy: use sh
[07:27] <BluesKaj> yeah DexterF same with this one, but i can do without beryl's eyecandy , so it's not a prob for me
[07:28] <klakette> bon, je vous souhaite une bonne soire, c'est fiesta pr moi ce soir ;)
[07:28] <soulrider> !fr
[07:28] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:28] <Sesshy> soulrider: the issue with the repos is that the packages are missing a file that I need for my card, it's apparently a verified issue, so you have to manually add the missing file
[07:28] <coreymon77> Sesshy: are you sure that it was -x at the end and not --x
[07:28] <soulrider> oh
[07:28] <coreymon77> lots of the times you have to use a double -
[07:28] <DexterF> how does that bot know that guys speaks french...?
[07:28] <Sesshy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/98641/comments/18
[07:28] <soulrider> when you chmod it its +x not -x
[07:28] <Sesshy> it could've been a typo, I guess
[07:28] <soulrider> i told it :P
[07:29] <DexterF> chmod +x would make sense, makes a file executable
[07:29] <coreymon77> Sesshy: do +x
[07:29] <BluesKaj> DexterF, by the !fr link...it tells the bot to generate that script
[07:29] <DexterF> !fr
[07:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:29] <DexterF> duh
[07:30] <Sesshy> whenever I do any of those, --x, -x, or +x, I get a syntax error saying "newline unexpected"
[07:30] <BluesKaj> hehe
[07:30] <azzco> I need help with samba, how do I add new users and how do I sett read/write permissions to all shared folders?
[07:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: okay
[07:30] <DexterF> i thought it autoparses it, didnt see the bot call :P
[07:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: forget the -x at the end
[07:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: just do sudo sh
[07:30] <Sesshy> hm, same error
[07:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run
[07:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: that doesnt work
[07:30] <Sesshy> nope
[07:30] <coreymon77> Sesshy: works fine for me
[07:31] <coreymon77> Sesshy: type that exact line
[07:31] <coreymon77> sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run
[07:31] <DexterF> Sesshy: sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run  ?
[07:31] <Sesshy> yeah, I get the same syntax error
[07:31] <Sesshy> it's really weird
[07:31] <coreymon77> Sesshy: ummm
[07:31] <BluesKaj> copy and paste is easier
[07:31] <DexterF> syntax error?
[07:31] <DexterF> thats weird
[07:31] <Sesshy> "newline expected", yeah
[07:31] <Sesshy> err
[07:31] <Sesshy> unexpected, rather
[07:32] <coreymon77> Sesshy: oh, thats a problem with the file
[07:32] <Sesshy> should I try downloading it again?
[07:32] <coreymon77> yup
[07:32] <DexterF> download unfinished?
[07:32] <coreymon77> delete the frst on
[07:32] <coreymon77> delete the fiel first
[07:32] <Sesshy> how do I delete it?
[07:32] <coreymon77> Sesshy: then redownload
[07:32] <coreymon77> open up konqueror
[07:32] <BluesKaj> i think DexterF is right the *run file is like a binary ..requires ./
[07:32] <coreymon77> Sesshy: go to your home directory
[07:32] <coreymon77> and delete it
[07:33] <Sesshy> okay
[07:33] <coreymon77> Sesshy: now redownload
[07:35] <Sesshy> hm, still having the same issues
[07:35] <Sesshy> and the file's the exact same size and all
[07:35] <coreymon77> okay
[07:35] <coreymon77> Sesshy: now copy this line and paste in into the terminal
[07:35] <coreymon77> sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run
[07:35] <coreymon77> copy and paste
[07:35] <Sesshy> oh, no wonder
[07:35] <Sesshy> it's saving it as an html document
[07:35] <Sesshy> O_o
[07:36] <Sesshy> I'll try accessing the file directly from a web broswer and downloading it that way
[07:36] <coreymon77> Sesshy: no
[07:36] <coreymon77> no
[07:36] <coreymon77> no
[07:36] <coreymon77> use this command
[07:36] <coreymon77> wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run
[07:36] <coreymon77> use that command to get it
[07:36] <Sesshy> yes, that command seems to create an html document
[07:37] <Sesshy> that's what it shows up as in konqueror
[07:37] <root__> hello
[07:37] <coreymon77> in terminal!
[07:37] <coreymon77> thats a commandlien script!
[07:37] <Sesshy> yes, when I type that in terminal, it downloads that file
[07:37] <coreymon77> good
[07:37] <Silent_G> can someone help me please? cause im new to kubuntu
[07:37] <Sesshy> and when I browse to that file with konqueror, it's only 26kb
[07:37] <Sesshy> and is an HTML file, konqueror says
[07:37] <coreymon77> Sesshy: dont browse the file
[07:38] <Sesshy> so it doesn't appear to be downloading the right file
[07:38] <coreymon77> goddammit
[07:38] <Sesshy> well, in either case, I can't execute the file properly in console with any of the given commands
[07:38] <Sesshy> it either cannot open the file or gives me that syntax erorr
[07:38] <Sesshy> error*
[07:38] <Silent_G> the default boot that kubuntu installation create in grub doesnt boot well a bunch of colours come up and it crashed, iv booted from the Rescue and i edited settings, will it work if i configure a custome kernel and add it in grub ?
[07:39] <coreymon77> guys
[07:39] <coreymon77> is there any type of remote assistance thing in kubuntu
[07:39] <coreymon77> is there any way that i can connect to and take control of sesshys computer in order to help
[07:39] <llutz> coreymon77: ssh
[07:39] <coreymon77> llutz: walk the both of us through the process
[07:40] <llutz> Sesshy: chmod +x NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run
[07:40] <coreymon77> llutz: because we arent getting anywhere here
[07:40] <llutz> Sesshy: sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run
[07:40] <coreymon77> llutz: weve tried this
[07:40] <coreymon77> llutz: how do we do this ssh thing?
[07:41] <Silent_G> will somebody answer my question please?
[07:41] <llutz> coreymon77: Sesshy needs ssh-server installed and running
[07:41] <llutz> Silent_G: do you pay for it?
[07:41] <coreymon77> what about the krdc or kfrb programs?
[07:41] <Silent_G> llutz: for what?
[07:41] <llutz> coreymon77: never used those
[07:42] <llutz> Silent_G: an answer
[07:42] <Sesshy> okay, there, I downloaded the pkg2.run file from the web browser, and it correctly downloaded as an 11 meg file, and is recognized as a shell script
[07:42] <Sesshy> which is what it's supposed to be
[07:42] <Sesshy> for whatever reason, wget didn't download it right
[07:42] <Silent_G> no
[07:42] <Sesshy> but anyhow
[07:42] <Silent_G> but i tought this was kubuntu's help channel :S
[07:43] <coreymon77> !attitude | Silent_G
[07:43] <ubotu> Silent_G: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:43] <javier_> In case any of you is interested, this is how I have shared my printer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[07:43] <javier_> It's easy and works great
[07:43] <coreymon77> Sesshy: im going to pm you
[07:43] <coreymon77> Sesshy: okay?
[07:43] <Sesshy> okay o.o
[07:44] <Tm_T> Silent_G: perhaps noone currently active don't know about your problem
[07:44] <Silent_G> ok my bad
[07:44] <Tm_T> Silent_G: patience ;)
[07:44] <coreymon77> Sesshy: you can talk to me in the pm
[07:44] <BluesKaj> Silent_G, try to reinstall grub in the command line  ' sudo grub '
[07:45] <BluesKaj> Silent_G, then 'find /boot/grub/stage1'
[07:45] <Silent_G> BluesKaj: what i was gonna do is, since the kenrel kubuntu created crashes, download the kernel, compile it myself, and re-edit grub config file again, and do grub-install. will it work like that?
[07:46] <BluesKaj> dunno Silent_G seems rather labour intensive if you're just trying to reinstall grub :)
[07:46] <deminemi> has anyone here worked with Comedi ?
[07:47] <Silent_G> what do you mean BluesKaj
[07:48] <BluesKaj> a lotta work just to get grub working
[07:48] <Silent_G> i dont want to get grub working
[07:48] <Silent_G> what i want is to use my own custom kernel not the one kubuntu created
[07:48] <llutz> Silent_G: if you just want to add an own kernel to grub, you just need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:48] <Silent_G> ah ok
[07:48] <Silent_G> thankz llutz
[07:48] <BluesKaj> ok sorry ..i thought you needed to fix grub
[07:49] <Silent_G> no i need to install my own kernel BluesKaj cause the default one doesnt load a screen with a bunch of colours comes up
[07:49] <Silent_G> even when i tried to install kubuntu that screen came up , i hade to install in textmode
[07:50] <deminemi> Silent_G: was the resolution bad or was it just totally unreadable colors?
[07:50] <Silent_G> totally unreadable colours
[07:51] <coreymon77> okay
[07:51] <coreymon77> guys
[07:51] <coreymon77> crdlb: major problem
[07:51] <BluesKaj> ok, Silent_G ...i had a prob that i was able to fix in the /boot/grub/menu.lst and it worked ...just had to comment hidden menu ...for some reason it was hiding the grub menu
[07:52] <BluesKaj> so editing the grub menu does work
[07:52] <erichj> if i edit  the grub menu.lst can i remove the grub timer so it just autoloads the default kernel?
[07:52] <coreymon77> crdlb: sesshys computer froze and had to restart
[07:52] <coreymon77> crdlb: so we need to rollback the drivers
[07:52] <crdlb> !xconfig
[07:52] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[07:52] <coreymon77> crdlb: cause he cant load kde
[07:52] <crdlb> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[07:53] <crdlb> just run that
[07:53] <crdlb> choose the "nv" driver
[07:53] <BluesKaj> i think so ..you can change the default time out as well
[07:53] <Silent_G> BluesKaj: also, my chipset (Via Chrome9 K8m890) isnt supported by default so i installed kernel sources and other things from via's website, will i have to re-install the drivers and things if i create another kernel?
[07:54] <BluesKaj> dunno Silent_G ... coreymon77 ?
[07:55] <coreymon77> BluesKaj: what?
[07:55] <root__> what to write to efficient get a full update to newest kubuntu that works with radeon 800XL Videocards ?
[07:56] <root__> this version won't boot - I had to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then startx
[07:58] <rowenthedark> Hello I am still wondering how i can get beryl to autostart with KDE when it loads?
[07:59] <llutz> rowenthedark: ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:59] <BluesKaj> coreymon77, Silent_G 's last question
[08:00] <coreymon77> Silent_G: maybe, maybe not
[08:00] <coreymon77> Silent_G: not sure
[08:00] <rowenthedark> llutz: Thank you.
[08:00] <soulrider> !autostart
[08:00] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[08:04] <root__> I need help ... My Kubuntu freeze when boot
[08:06] <Sesshy> root__: ah, yeah, I think you have the same problem I was having
[08:06] <gellioth> #espaciolinux-es
[08:07] <Sesshy> first try booting into rescue mode by holding esc during the GRUB loading process
[08:07] <gellioth> kubuntu-es
[08:07] <root__> Sesshy: yes .,... I have a saphire radeon 800XL videocard ,..... And it seems to be a very bad card
[08:07] <gellioth> #kubuntu-es
[08:07] <BluesKaj> !es
[08:07] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:08] <root__> Sesshy: I did that ... and then i wrote sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg .. and changed the videocard to vesa
[08:08] <root__> when I type StartX ... it seems to work .. And here I am .. But when I reboot ... Everything is still bad
[08:10] <Daisuke_Ido> root__: forgive this dumb question, but why the EFF are you here under a root account?
[08:11] <BluesKaj> root_ , first of all , a nick change is recommended , can you find your graphics card in  kcontrol/ monitor and appearance ?
[08:11] <Napa-> better? ;)
[08:12] <Napa-> what is Kcontrol?
[08:12] <Daisuke_Ido> alt+f2
[08:12] <Daisuke_Ido> kcontrol
[08:12] <BluesKaj> yes Napa- , much
[08:13] <BluesKaj> sorry , monitor & display
[08:13] <Napa-> in monitor and display it just says VESA
[08:13] <BluesKaj> in peripherals
[08:14] <Napa-> I'll try to change it to ATI XL .. since I have a Radeon XL800 card
[08:14] <chanfle> hello all
[08:14] <chanfle> how i can update to kubuntu 7.04, on this moment i have 6.06
[08:15] <FSHero> hello all: in Xfce, is there a way to install security updates easily? e.g. like the automatic updates in Kubuntu
[08:15] <BluesKaj> ok then try system settings/monitor and display/hardware/admin mode /configure graphics card
[08:15] <chanfle> how i can update to kubuntu 7.04, on this moment i have 6.06...???
[08:16] <Napa-> Blueskaj: It still says Vesa
[08:16] <Daisuke_Ido> chanfle: you're better off doing a fresh install, since upgrading will require going from 6.06 to 6.10 then 6.10 to 7.04
[08:17] <BlueDevil>  how do i recompile linux-restricted-modules?
[08:17] <chanfle> Daisuke_Ido: ok....i have 542 update, i install on this moment...maybe on these update contain the new update 7.04?
[08:17] <BluesKaj> Napa-, look for the card in the list after you click on configure
[08:18] <chanfle> how i can know waht version I use for kubuntu?
[08:18] <gellioth> #espaciolinux
[08:19] <tsdgeos> can someone ban gellioth 
[08:19] <tsdgeos> 3 channels in 20 min
[08:19] <Napa-> BluesKaj: there are different Radeon cards ..ATI RADEON and with (fbdev) (fglrx) (vesa) - What's the difference?
[08:19] <gellioth> bye!
[08:19] <coreymon77> nalioth: thats your cue
[08:19] <apol> chanfle: you can know it with "uname -a"
[08:19] <BluesKaj> gellioth, in the sever text window : /join #espaciolinux
[08:19] <apol> depending on the kernel version
[08:20] <BluesKaj> Napa-, i would try the fglrx for now
[08:20] <coreymon77> can anyone help me and Sesshy make an ssh (or vnc) server so that i can connect to and control his conputer
[08:21] <chanfle> apol: on 10x
[08:21] <chanfle> ok 10x
[08:21] <coreymon77> oaky
[08:21] <coreymon77> do this
[08:21] <coreymon77> whoops, wrong window
[08:22] <chanfle> i have a problem with amsn
[08:22] <DexterF> coreymon77: ahem.
[08:23] <coreymon77> let me just try something again
[08:23] <DexterF> coreymon77: where I come from talking someone into giving vnc or ssh access is considered dread evil
[08:23] <Napa-> Ok .. Now I've changed it
[08:23] <DexterF> even if someone requests it one shouldn't do it.
[08:23] <coreymon77> DexterF: ???
[08:23] <BluesKaj> Napa-, you may have to relogin
[08:23] <chanfle> when i want to open the amsn, the cursor only stay think but not open nothing.....why?
[08:23] <coreymon77> DexterF: why, im just trying to help him out
[08:24] <Karti> Hi all.....can anyone recommend a MS Project open source alternative? All help appreciated
[08:24] <BluesKaj> Karti, go ask in #windows :)
[08:25] <DexterF> coreymon77: help is always much appreciated but this lures newbies into thinking this is a good way of help. for one, they won't figure stuff by themselves, next this means you can drop rootkits or sumsuch there. unless you two are close friends or otherwise trust each other, that machine is to be seen as compromised.
[08:25] <Karti> BluesKaj: Many thanks
[08:27] <chanfle> somebody help me with amsn...please...!!
[08:27] <jhutchins_lt> Karti: OpenOffice has a presentation tool.
[08:27] <DexterF> chanfle: try setting up the account in kopete
[08:27] <jhutchins_lt> Karti: Sorry, brainfart.  You want Project, not PowerPoint.
[08:28] <jhutchins_lt> !equivalents | karti
[08:28] <ubotu> karti: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[08:28] <chanfle> DexterF: hhmmmm i don't like me the kopete...jajaja
[08:28] <BluesKaj> chanfle, try kopete, it works better tha amsn in linux
[08:29] <Karti> jhutchins_lt: many thanks
[08:29] <chanfle> BluesKaj: ok ok but how i can reinstall amsn?
[08:30] <BluesKaj> it's there hust look for it chanfle
[08:30] <BluesKaj> just
[08:30] <chanfle> ????
[08:30] <coreymon77> DexterF: ive tryed having him do thigns on his oqw
[08:30] <coreymon77> DexterF: ive been trying for hoyurs, we jsut cant get it wokring
[08:31] <coreymon77> DexterF: and also, i wouldnt do that
[08:31] <DexterF> what are you trying to get working?
[08:31] <DexterF> coreymon77: that's what you say. words are just 0 and 1. no offense.
[08:31] <Karti> jhutchins_lt: Only problem is first link is a russioan 404 page!
[08:32] <jhutchins_lt> Karti: It opened for me, in english.
[08:32] <evsophomore2009> Hey anyone
[08:32] <evsophomore2009> is it normal for Mozilla to just close unexpecatly?
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> hello
[08:32] <DexterF> yeah, it sucks :D
[08:33] <DexterF> scnr. no, of course not
[08:33] <nosrednaekim> evsophomore2009: you mean firefox?
[08:33] <evsophomore2009> no, i use Mozilla
[08:33] <evsophomore2009> Firefox does the same thing
[08:33] <jhutchins_lt> Karti: You can also try http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/
[08:33] <DexterF> evsophomore2009: particular site?
[08:33] <evsophomore2009> any site
[08:34] <evsophomore2009> Myspace.com, Youtube.com, Yahoo.com
[08:34] <nosrednaekim> evsophomore2009: well...I don't know about mozilla. But yeah, Firefoxdoes it sometimes, really stinks for when you are working on wordpress
[08:34] <evsophomore2009> it will somtimes work, and someitmes just close
[08:34] <jhutchins_lt> Karti: It refers to http://mrproject.codefactory.se/ and http://outreach.sourceforge.net
[08:34] <Karti> jhutchins_lt: How strange...its english now...just looking ...will also try the other link many thanks
[08:35] <DexterF> evsophomore2009: checked other browsers? konq, opera? perhaps a plugin issue
[08:35] <DexterF> fubared java or so
[08:35] <evsophomore2009> Nosrednaekim: any suggestions on a new browser that works other then Mozilla, konqueror, firefox
[08:35] <mattsqz> that is most likely
[08:35] <mattsqz> opera is good
[08:35] <DexterF> Sesshy: around?
[08:35] <evsophomore2009> Mattsqz: how do i get opera?
[08:35] <nosrednaekim> evsophomore2009: safari? ;)
[08:36] <evsophomore2009> nosrednaekim: isnt that what Apple uses?
[08:36] <BluesKaj> safari in windows is booorrrrinngg
[08:36] <DexterF> *windows* is boring :)
[08:36] <nosrednaekim> evsophomore2009: yeah, although a beta was released for windows
[08:36] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: well im not using windows
[08:36] <BluesKaj> just a comment
[08:37] <nosrednaekim> yeah I know... it is.
[08:37] <evsophomore2009> i know
[08:37] <DexterF> well, on second thought, it isn't.. it's annoying
[08:37] <nosrednaekim> besides, it looks terrible on vista, so out of style
[08:37] <evsophomore2009> so where can i download safari?
[08:37] <nosrednaekim> evsophomore2009: you can't for linux.
[08:37] <DexterF> evsophomore2009: there's no safari for linux. besides, that would be dumb since konq uses the same rendering engine :) check out opera.com
[08:37] <evsophomore2009> Well so much for that
[08:37] <BluesKaj> what's wrong with konq , and FF ...if you have crash probs then maybe your graphics plugins and card are the prob not the browser
[08:38] <Sesshy> DexterF: yeah, I'm still around
[08:38] <DexterF> Sesshy: read what I told about trust / system security further up?
[08:38] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: well idk it just closes ALOT
[08:38] <Sesshy> stupid nVidia 64-bit drivers don't work with my kernel
[08:38] <evsophomore2009> too much to even use it
[08:39] <DexterF> evsophomore2009: other stuff is stable? hardware issues rooted out?
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> evsophomore2009: do you have a plugins installed?
[08:39] <mattsqz> if its just the web browser it likely isnt a hardware issue
[08:39] <evsophomore2009> how do i install plugins?
[08:39] <Sesshy> DexterF: yeah, I see what you said
[08:40] <DexterF> mattsqz: hence the question. if random apps crash, RAM issue perhaps
[08:40] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: plugins for?
[08:40] <evsophomore2009> Mozilla
[08:40] <DexterF> Sesshy: good. not accusing anyone of doing anything, only pointing out this should be considered.
[08:40] <BluesKaj> mattsqz, perhaps not exactly hrdwre , but maybe faulty drivers and plugins
[08:40] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: which ones?
[08:40] <evsophomore2009> well i dont know
[08:40] <DexterF> evsophomore2009: embedded video, flash and such
[08:40] <evsophomore2009> i need a plugin that WONT close Mozilla anytime it wants
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> evsophomore2009: never mind
[08:41] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: hehehehe! flash it installed automatic here. java i needed to install over apt-get same for kaffeine.
[08:41] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: everything runs smoothly here.
[08:41] <evsophomore2009> thats nice
[08:42] <trakinas> which firefox?
[08:42] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, open FF and in the addressbar type about:plugins..take alok at the list and make sure java, flash and windows media/mplayer plugins are listed and enabled
[08:43] <Sesshy> DexterF: do you have any idea why Swiftfox might not be working? I have it all installed correctly and everything, it's just that when I try to load it through KDE, it appears on the taskbar, says it's loading for a minute or so, and then goes away
[08:43] <evsophomore2009> application/x-shockwave-flash 	Shockwave Flash 	swf 	Yes
[08:43] <evsophomore2009> application/futuresplash 	FutureSplash Player 	spl 	Yes
[08:43] <DexterF> Sesshy: what's swiftfox?
[08:43] <evsophomore2009> thats it
[08:43] <Sesshy> and when I try to run it through the console, it tells me that the swiftfox-bin doesn't exist in the specified directory, even when I'm looking at the file in front of me
[08:43] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: no java and no multimidia plugins.
[08:43] <BluesKaj> !swiftfox
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <Sesshy> DexterF: it's just a build of firefox optimized for various architectures
[08:44] <DexterF> Sesshy: how did you install it?
[08:44] <BluesKaj> suppoesdly runs faster on 64bit pcs
[08:44] <DexterF> where did you get it? there seems to be no such package in kub
[08:44] <Sesshy> DexterF: dbpkg
[08:45] <DexterF> Sesshy: sure you picked the package for your architecture?
[08:45] <evsophomore2009> trakinas: no
[08:45] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, you have to get java and mplayer-moxilla plugins at least and the xine-plugin as well
[08:46] <BluesKaj> mozilla
[08:46] <DexterF> Sesshy: what does $ file /path-to/swiftfox-bin tell you?
[08:46] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: for multi-midia i recommend mplayer-plugin or kaffeine plugin. mplayer-plugin you put  embebed the player into the browser, while kaffeine will call the player (correct?). you choose.
[08:46] <trakinas> !java
[08:46] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[08:47] <trakinas> for java, read that link.
[08:47] <Sesshy> DexterF: yeah. I'm reading the forums, and apparently other people have the same issues
[08:47] <Sesshy> gonna read up a bit more
[08:47] <DexterF> Sesshy: use opera ;)
[08:49] <evsophomore2009> ugh this is too confusing!
[08:49] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: haahahhah. not that much.
[08:49] <trakinas> do you have any java installed?
[08:50] <evsophomore2009> Okay well how do i get Macromedia's Flash player on Konqueror?
[08:50] <baghyay> i want don't use the login screen in the start of kubuntu
[08:50] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: it should be alrady activated. in Konquerors options you can check in to use mozilla's plugins
[08:51] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: as i was talling you... if not, go to apt-get/adept and look for black sdk. after installing it, look for mozilla java plugin
[08:52] <baghyay> how to desactve the login screen
[08:52] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: blackdown sdk - j2re1.4
[08:54] <evsophomore2009> Trakinas: where do i find it in Adept?
[08:54] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: just search it. ;] 
[08:54] <trakinas> blackdown java
[08:54] <trakinas> or j2re
[08:55] <Silent_G> can somebody tell me why is this error happining ? http://rafb.net/p/Izb0Mp40.html
[08:56] <trakinas> Silent_G: missing libraries?
[08:57] <evsophomore2009> so which file do i install?
[08:57] <evsophomore2009> -src?
[08:57] <llutz> Silent_G: libncurses5-dev
[08:57] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: both, the j2re1.4 is the java run time. and the j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin is the plugin.
[08:58] <trakinas> evsophomore2009: the one named "j2re1.4"
[09:05] <jason10> hello..  i was wondering if someone would be willing to clear up for me exactly the way that package installing works..
[09:05] <jason10> im used to windows
[09:06] <jason10> and i notice with packages and faqs its never clear as to exactly where the thing should go
[09:06] <jzilla> basicly, you dont really have to tell it where to install
[09:06] <jason10> does it make any difference where stuff gets installed to?
[09:07] <jzilla> using a package manager, its all handled for you
[09:07] <jason10> true
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> jason10: where? everything goes to /usr/ but that shouldn't concern you because in linux there is a thing called a package manager
[09:07] <jason10> but today i decided to install (for example) firefox 2
[09:07] <Silent_G> will modules in kernel be automaticaly loaded on start up?
[09:07] <jason10> ff2.xx is not in the package universe thing
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> jason10: you have two choices, you can install it to /usr/bin. or you can unzip it locally.
[09:08] <jason10> well..  one of the pages i read about it said to put firefox in /opt/firefox
[09:08] <jason10> was a tar.gz file
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> jason10: hmmm maybe firefox does go there.
[09:09] <jason10> so i put it there and it worked, but then i couldnt give my kmenu access to it
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> almost everything goes to usr/bin though
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> jason10: was there an error?
[09:09] <ubuntu_> im trying to recover GRUB using the guide on the wiki. However, when i type in "grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/sda" it just stalls forever (My linux partition is on /dev/sda2 which is mounted to /mnt/root). What to do?
[09:09] <trakinas> jason10: i did find firefox on packages...
[09:09] <jason10> firefox 2.0?
[09:10] <jason10> all i could find was 1.5
[09:10] <trakinas> jason10: yep
[09:10] <jason10> anyway i removed it from the first place and put it in /home/jason/.mozilla/firefox
[09:11] <ubuntu_> I am installing kubuntu as we speak
[09:11] <nosrednaekim> jason10: wrong place... that stores all your firefox SETTINGS
[09:11] <trakinas> z1pp3r: well... put the 2 after the sda... =P
[09:11] <ubuntu_> feeling very leet now
[09:11] <nosrednaekim> put it in /home/jason/firefox-bin
[09:11] <nosrednaekim> Set: heh
[09:11] <z1pp3r> trakinas: well, i want it installed on MBR, so it shouldnt be sda2 should it?
[09:12] <jason10> i do not have a /firefox-bin directory...
[09:12] <trakinas> z1pp3r: well... --root-directory indicates where your image is located, if im not wrong
[09:13] <gvenos> hi to everyone there
[09:13] <jason10> everything is working fine in the jason/.mozilla/firefox
[09:13] <z1pp3r> trakinas: ooh, it just finished. Just took some 15 mins or so
[09:13] <trakinas> gvenos: hi
[09:13] <jason10> all the bookmarks are right, all the plugins work..  except flash...
[09:13] <trakinas> z1pp3r: lol
[09:13] <trakinas> heeheheh
[09:13] <trakinas> good luck rebooting
[09:13] <z1pp3r> meh
[09:13] <z1pp3r> thanks
[09:14] <OutoLumo_> Hi!
[09:15] <trakinas> OutoLumo: hello
[09:15] <OutoLumo> Anyone has idea in which package is kapp.h et al? (for development in KDE)
[09:15] <trakinas> jason10: what is the problem?
[09:15] <jason10> so anyway, when im dealing manually with a tar.gz package i should install it.. where ?
[09:16] <jason10> usr/bin?
[09:16] <jason10> or home/jason/.something?
[09:16] <trakinas>  jason10: it probably already have all the path correctly setted. you only need to change it if you want to.
[09:16] <OutoLumo> depends... /usr/local/bin ?
[09:16] <nosrednaekim> jason10: /usr/share would be best.
[09:17] <trakinas> and it isnt in .something. if you want it locale, it is on  /usr/local/bin
[09:17] <_dac> Jisao, did I miss anything special Sunday?
[09:17] <jason10> i thought that when i use command line it will just extract to wherever the file currently is?
[09:18] <jason10> my /usr/local/bin/ folder exists, but it has nothing in it at all..
[09:19] <OutoLumo> jason10, it's for local installs... those the system packkage manager does not nadle.,
[09:19] <OutoLumo> handle
[09:19] <jason10> oh
[09:19] <baghyay> how to edit application start with kubuntu start
[09:20] <trakinas> baghyay: System Config. --> Advanced
[09:21] <trakinas> jason10: extract yes, install, no.
[09:21] <jason10> so if i just extract all my tar.gz packages to /usr/local/bin then the package  will..
[09:21] <jason10> do not install?
[09:23] <trakinas> jason10: unless it is a binary file, it will installs in default bin folder.
[09:23] <jason10> see, im good with windows and the easy.exe, but this stuff confuses me
[09:23] <trakinas> jason10: if it isnt a binary, no.
[09:23] <baghyay> oh yeah ok
[09:23] <jason10> ok
[09:23] <trakinas> jason10: use binary packages.
[09:23] <trakinas> jason10: source codes are only if you REALLY need it.
[09:23] <jason10> yea, no
[09:23] <jason10> i avoid the source code
[09:23] <jason10> i dl the thing thats ready to go
[09:23] <trakinas> jason10: so, what are those tars you got?
[09:23] <jason10> well right now im looking at a flash_player_9.tar.gz from adobe
[09:23] <jason10> gzipped tar archive
[09:23] <trakinas> jason10: dont need to.
[09:23] <jason10> no idea where to put this thing
[09:23] <trakinas> flash installed automaticaly here.
[09:23] <jason10> mine wouldnt do it
[09:25] <mattsqz> i dont have words to describe how much better apt-get is than installshield :D
[09:25] <trakinas> just go to a place where it has a flash embebed and go for it.
[09:25] <mattsqz> try youtube, it uses both flash and java
[09:25] <jason10> it acted like it tried, but then it said it failed and i had to do it manually, then it sent me to the macromedia dl page
[09:25] <jason10> or w.e.
[09:25] <trakinas> about flash, you can unzip it in anypalce. like... /home/jason10/binaries/
[09:25] <trakinas> and run the script there.
[09:25] <trakinas> just follow adobe guid. ;] 
[09:25] <trakinas> read me isnt there to make file larger. xD
[09:25] <trakinas> mattsqz: javascript isnt Java.
[09:25] <trakinas> i sware flash installed okay here without needing to download adobe pack
[09:25] <jason10> "click here to dl plugin.."  "i agree" ... "downloading flash player...
[09:25] <jason10> "
[09:25] <soulrider> jason10: in linux we install stuff fromt he repositories usually
[09:26] <jason10> yea, i installed the jre thing
[09:26] <jason10> from reporitory
[09:26] <soulrider> jason10: have you heard of them ?
[09:26] <soulrider> well, flash is there too
[09:26] <soulrider> and most programs youll ever want too :P
[09:26] <llutz> jason10: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:26] <jason10> "no plugins were installed"  .. "adobe flash player failed" "manual <button>"
[09:26] <soulrider> yup, that will download+install for you
[09:27] <jason10> llutz :  is that in a console?
[09:27] <llutz> yes
[09:27] <jason10> auto install fails  = /
[09:27] <llutz> jason10: you need multiverse-repo enabled
[09:28] <jason10> The following packages have been kept back:
[09:28] <jason10>   file libexif12 libgd2-noxpm libmagic1 libpng12-0 libpng12-dev
[09:28] <jason10>   xscreensaver-data xscreensaver-gl
[09:28] <jason10> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
[09:28] <jason10> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[09:28] <jason10> Writing extended state information... Done
[09:28] <jason10> that means nothing happened?
[09:28] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[09:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:28] <trakinas> jason10: strange. it installed here. well.. just go for it like the folks told you.
[09:29] <trakinas> open adept. look for "flash"
[09:29] <DexterF> why are my nfs mounts neither in mtab not in mount
[09:29] <DexterF> +?
[09:31] <jason10> flashplugin-nonfree says "installed"
[09:31] <jason10> is that the one i want?
[09:32] <jason10> that would make sence with the mess above..
[09:32] <jason10> could it be that i have ffox in the wrong place or something?
[09:32] <jzilla> did you install it with a package manager?
[09:33] <Sesshy> DexterF: do you know of any way to get flash installed on 64-bit kubuntu?
[09:33] <jzilla> Sesshy: gl!
[09:33] <jason10> (no love from youtube by the way)
[09:33] <jason10> jzilla: <shrug>  i dont remember ever installing it
[09:33] <Zubin-kubuntu> does anyone know if KDE4 will be in Gutsy Gibson?
[09:33] <trakinas> jason10: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=feisty&release=all&keywords=firefox&sourceid=mozilla-search
[09:34] <jason10> but i know it worked before i upgraded to ffox 2
[09:34] <trakinas> firefox 2.0 on the package tree...
[09:35] <DexterF> Sesshy: sorry, never did 64bit
[09:35] <Sesshy> do you think it's easier just to run 32-bit kubuntu on my 64-bit hardware?
[09:36] <jzilla> its what i do
[09:36] <Sesshy> just so you don't have to deal with all the crap?
[09:36] <jzilla> its alot less of a headache
[09:36] <Sesshy> ah, yeah
[09:36] <Sesshy> it's starting to seem like it, geez x_x
[09:36] <jason10> trakinas: i see that.  all of them say feisty.  i believe im using 6.4 or 6.10   ...
[09:37] <jason10> edgy or breezy or whichever
[09:37] <trakinas> jason10: ahhhhhh! my mistake
[09:37] <jason10> is that bad for me?
[09:37] <trakinas> jason10: dont know. :/ sorry
[09:37] <jzilla> its better to be running 7.04 probably
[09:37] <jason10> lol
[09:37] <trakinas> jason10: but i dont think so
[09:37] <jason10> im not even sure what im running, how do i check?
[09:37] <trakinas> jason10: uname -a
[09:37] <Zubin-kubuntu> Flash and Java for 64bit linux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90919
[09:38] <jason10> 2.6.15-28-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu May 10 09:45:43 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:38] <Zubin-kubuntu> its an old one, but i used it back then and it worked fine
[09:38] <Zubin-kubuntu> another one for Konqueror and flash: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188198
[09:39] <Zubin-kubuntu> How to install 32bit firefox in a 64 bit system: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[09:40] <Zubin-kubuntu> 32bit anything in a 64 bit environment: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[09:40] <jason10> 64 bit environment..  is that for the 64 processor?  i believe im a x86      does that matter?
[09:42] <Zubin-kubuntu> x86_64 is a 64bit system
[09:42] <Zubin-kubuntu> 2.6.15-28-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu May 10 09:45:43 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux - looks like a 32-bit system is running
[09:43] <jason10> ok.  i dont know what that means really  ...   :)
[09:44] <navets> how do i add packages?
[09:44] <Zubin-kubuntu> well you're running a 32-bit operating system...really its fine.  Theres no real benefit running a 64-bit system on your desktop.  The only place you'd find a performance benefit would be Video Conversion...
[09:44] <navets> or dependicies
[09:44] <jason10> right on
[09:45] <jason10> ok, ill play with those links and see what i can make happen..
[09:45] <Zubin-kubuntu> for servers its a slightly different story...but desktop...i stopped using a 64 bit desktop and went back to 32-bit...
[09:45] <jason10> but now i guess ill want to remove the firefox that i managed to install to /home/jason10/.mozilla/firefox
[09:46] <jason10> is there a 'proper' way to do that?  or do i just delete the directory
[09:46] <Zubin-kubuntu> actually you don't need to follow those links...it looks like you are already running a 32-bit OS
[09:46] <jason10> oh
[09:50] <ubuntu_> hallo
[09:50] <jason10> hi
[09:50] <Zubin-kubuntu> when you typed in 'uname -a' you got: 2.6.15-28-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu May 10 09:45:43 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:50] <Zubin-kubuntu> correct?
[09:50] <jason10> correct.
[09:50] <Zubin-kubuntu> if so, then you are already running a 32-bit operating system
[09:50] <logixoul> hey. my amarok's default toolbar visualisation doesn't follow the colorscheme, it always stays blue. any fix?
[09:50] <jason10> and those links were for forcing a 32bit package into a 64 bit computer
[09:50] <jason10> that means i want packages for a 32bit system?
[09:52] <KungPowah> Hi guys.. anyone who knows how to install nvidia driver (7900GT) on kubuntu ?
[09:52] <logixoul> KungPowah: use adept-manager
[09:53] <KungPowah> do i type that in console ?
[09:53] <KungPowah> got it
[09:57] <swhalen> Hello
[09:58] <swhalen> can someone help me with compiz?
[09:59] <OutoLumo> swhalen, sorry... My driver isn't supported :-(
[09:59] <jason10> hm
[09:59] <jason10> ok.
[09:59] <jason10> thanks for the help
[09:59] <jason10> ill keep working on it
[09:59] <jason10> :)
[09:59] <jason10> gg
[10:02] <soulrider> !effects
[10:02] <ubotu> For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[10:04] <setttest> I could use some help configuring my bootloader to automatically have the setting "set vga to 1280x1024 32 bit" (the one you set by using f4 on the install disk) - because my monitor get messed up if I don't do it. anyone able to help me?
[10:04] <PhinnFort> how can i turn of automatic mounting of my encrypted volumes at boot up
[10:04] <mattsqz> wow
[10:04] <PhinnFort> ?
[10:04] <mattsqz> what monitor are you using
[10:05] <setttest> ViewSonic 19"
[10:05] <setttest> Burned the cd twice to make sure it wasn't a defective cd. It just says "no signal" at all other resolutions right after the kernel is loaded
[10:06] <setttest> came in with "recovery mode" or what it was named in the bootloader. But I would like to boot the regular one and not be root all the time ... =)
[10:06] <chx> if I press numpad 5 i get the same menu as if i would have pressed the right mouse button. how can i get out of this<
[10:06] <chx> ?
[10:07] <setttest> using the 64-bit version. not sure if that has anything to do with it. anyways. I just need help adding that syntax into the bootloader and all is good =)
[10:08] <mattsqz> grub?
[10:08] <setttest> yes
[10:08] <PhinnFort> setttest: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:08] <PhinnFort> setttest: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:09] <setttest> PhinnFort: thanks a million. Now do you know what to add in here? I'm very sorry for not knowing it myself
[10:10] <PhinnFort> setttest: hang on a sec, need to refresh my knowledge of debianish(ubuntuish) menu.lst's
[10:10] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:10] <setttest> thanks :)
[10:10] <swhalen> can someone help me with ati and cmompiz
[10:11] <swhalen> compiz*
[10:11] <Karti> jhutchins_lt: Many thanks for earlier, I went for GanttProject so jus about to check it with a download..
[10:11] <emonkey-f> !compiz
[10:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:12] <PhinnFort> !compiz | swhalen
[10:12] <ubotu> swhalen: please see above
[10:12] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:12] <Silent_G> will it make a difference if i use grub.conf instead of menu,1st  ?
[10:13] <PhinnFort> Silent_G: grub.conf is supposed to just be a symlink to menu.lst
[10:13] <PhinnFort> afaik
[10:13] <Silent_G> uh
[10:13] <Silent_G> ok
[10:13] <Silent_G> so
[10:13] <Silent_G> will grub read title=Kubuntu Linux
[10:13] <Silent_G> for example
[10:13] <PhinnFort> Silent_G: try
[10:13] <Silent_G> cause menu.1st its written different from others
[10:13] <Silent_G> :/
[10:13] <Silent_G> ok
[10:13] <Silent_G> i'll give it a try
[10:13] <glyph_> hello
[10:13] <PhinnFort> setttest: I can't for 1280x1024x32, only x24
[10:14] <setttest> will it make any difference? I only saw 16 and 32 bit in the "F4 menu". but I guess maybe 32 is x24 ?
[10:14] <glyph_> got a small problem my kde pannel dissapered and i will not load back up is there anyway to get it back?
[10:14] <setttest> More than happy for the command though :)
[10:15] <PhinnFort> setttest: do you have the file open?
[10:15] <setttest> yes
[10:15] <Boje> geht in die heia, gn8 (amsg)
[10:15] <PhinnFort> setttest: look for a line that starts with #defoptions
[10:15] <PhinnFort> *# defoptions=blahblah
[10:15] <PhinnFort> setttest: at the end of that line, add "vga=0x318"
[10:17] <emonkey> #amarok.de
[10:17] <emonkey> ups
[10:17] <emonkey> sorry
[10:18] <setttest> right above #End default options ?
[10:18] <PhinnFort> setttest: I don't think so... I have a line that says "# defoptions=quiet splash rootflags=data=writeback"
[10:19] <setttest> mine says "# defoptions=quiet splash vga=0x318" (I added the vga= thing). Should I uncomment it?
[10:19] <PhinnFort> no
[10:20] <PhinnFort> setttest: save the file and run "sudo update-grub" in a konsole
[10:20] <setttest> done
[10:20] <setttest> will try rebooting
[10:20] <setttest> thanks :)
[10:20] <PhinnFort> setttest: when that is finished, open up the file again with "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[10:20] <PhinnFort> just doublecheck first;)
[10:21] <PhinnFort> look after the line that begins with "kernel" after "## ## End Default Options ##"
[10:21] <setttest> it added the vga line to the "load kernel blabla" line :)
[10:21] <PhinnFort> the line should contain the vga=blah stuff
[10:21] <PhinnFort> :D
[10:21] <PhinnFort> all happy then
[10:21] <PhinnFort> now try a reboot
[10:21] <PhinnFort> :D
[10:21] <setttest> Everything is well. See you soon :)
[10:21] <PhinnFort> if all goes well
[10:21] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:26] <OutoLumo> Now that qt4.3 is released, will there be a backport to feisty?
[10:42] <trakinas> why ubuntu's grub menu.lst is so complicated? hehehehe
[10:43] <kadaz> can you get gl desktop to work in kde?
[10:43] <trakinas> gl?
[10:43] <trakinas> translate
[10:44] <trakinas> xgl you meant?
[10:44] <trakinas> beryl. :] 
[10:44] <kadaz> in adept installer it says its gnome
[10:44] <kadaz> I downloaded some gl screensavers
[10:44] <trakinas> hmmm. you can. im pretty sure.
[10:45] <kadaz> I tried using them, but nothing displays
[10:45] <trakinas> AIGLX -- try this
[10:47] <kadaz> I did a few searches for xgl   a gl-based x server
[10:47] <kadaz> whats aiglx?
[10:47] <marco__> what is the library package to run mp3 with amarok?
[10:48] <kadaz> marco_ type mp3 in adept installer
[10:48] <set> Hey again. it worked perfectly. Thanks a lot PhinnFort :)
[10:48] <PhinnFort> good to hear
[10:48] <PhinnFort> :)
[10:48] <marco__> kadaz: yes there's 200000 library... I ain't going to install them all
[10:48] <kadaz> I got two of them  gstrreamer extra plugins
[10:48] <kadaz> that worked.
[10:48] <marco__> cool ty
[10:48] <PhinnFort> !info libxine-extracodecs | marco__
[10:48] <ubotu> marco__: libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB
[10:49] <PhinnFort> marco__: don't get the gstreamer plugins
[10:49] <kadaz> also I got xine too
[10:49] <PhinnFort> (silly)
[10:49] <set> what is the command to ask the bot for automatix?
[10:49] <kadaz> really, so you dont need both, ok
[10:49] <set> !info automatix
[10:49] <ubotu> Package automatix does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:49] <PhinnFort> afaik, there's nothing in kubuntu that uses gstreamer by default
[10:49] <trakinas> kadaz: is the graphic engine
[10:49] <marco__> PhinnFort: yeah I know it's running out of support
[10:49] <trakinas> this is for gentoo: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Beryl
[10:49] <PhinnFort> set: try just !
[10:49] <set> !automatix
[10:49] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:49] <trakinas> just for you to see you can have kde with beryl
[10:49] <set> hahaha that's a good one
[10:50] <kadaz> ok trackinas, do I then do I download this gl system for xserver?
[10:50] <set> !flash
[10:50] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:50] <trakinas> PhinnFort: i got the gstreamer plugins. in fact, i don use amarok anymore. =P
[10:50] <PhinnFort> trakinas: what do you use then?
[10:50] <trakinas> !aiglx
[10:50] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[10:50] <PhinnFort> trakinas: and how is it relevant, then;)
[10:50] <trakinas> PhinnFort: quodlibet
[10:51] <kadaz> is geforce fx better then geforce 3?
[10:51] <PhinnFort> "QUODLIBET Online Journal of Christian Theology and Philosophy"
[10:51] <PhinnFort> trakinas: wtf, GTK+ based?
[10:51] <PhinnFort> (must be crappy, then;))
[10:52] <set> You can't get flash in kubuntu 64-bit?
[10:52] <PhinnFort> sounds like a Juk ripoff, by the Wikipedia article
[10:52] <PhinnFort> set: it's a hassle
[10:52] <PhinnFort> set: rather just get Opera or Firefox 32-bit
[10:52] <PhinnFort> !nspluginwrapper
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <kadaz> phinnfort is there support for other media players with xine plugins??
[10:52] <kadaz> it was the only reason I didnt uninstall gstreamer
[10:52] <PhinnFort> kadaz: everything that uses xine to play media, will use the xine codecs
[10:53] <PhinnFort> libxine
[10:53] <trakinas> PhinnFort: yep. Im almost going back to xfce. kde eats a lot of resource.
[10:53] <PhinnFort> Amarok uses different engines to play music
[10:53] <carlos__> hi
[10:53] <trakinas> PhinnFort: i know. but it was getting on my nervers with some little things.
[10:53] <PhinnFort> trakinas: a full xfce desktop uses more than a full kde desktop, according to those who've tried it;)
[10:53] <kadaz> why is there a 104 processes ~!
[10:54] <trakinas> PhinnFort: i doubt.
[10:54] <PhinnFort> I used to use Juk, until I tried amarok on a Knoppix cd, and I was sold
[10:54] <PhinnFort> trakinas: I will dig up the article for oyu
[10:54] <trakinas> PhinnFort: hehe
[10:54] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:54] <kadaz> typically in win its 27 max.
[10:54] <trakinas> PhinnFort: kde only eats 400mb here
[10:54] <trakinas> NOTHING else running.
[10:54] <PhinnFort> trakinas: from 2006, but still: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/
[10:54] <PhinnFort> trakinas: that's because KDE uses shared libs extensively
[10:55] <PhinnFort> trakinas: if you open up a tenfold more apps, it still won't use much more
[10:55] <PhinnFort> kadaz: one word: factorization
[10:55] <set> can someone point me to documentation on how to install 32-bit software?
[10:55] <kadaz> !factorization
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about factorization - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <kadaz> LOL
[10:55] <PhinnFort> kadaz: you know the unix mantra?
[10:55] <kadaz> how about fastidious !
[10:55] <PhinnFort> do one thing, and do it well
[10:55] <CM_Jamie> Hail, FSHero. :)
[10:55] <trakinas> PhinnFort: but there's also this font-icon thing that kde keeps separating them... like "this-an-ico" /n "n" --. the n is in another line
[10:55] <kadaz> nope
[10:56] <kadaz> but I can read
[10:56] <PhinnFort> trakinas: I think you can customize it
[10:56] <PhinnFort> trakinas: ask in #kde
[10:56] <trakinas> PhinnFort: i tried.
[10:56] <PhinnFort> kadaz: [22:58]  <PhinnFort> do one thing, and do it well
[10:56] <trakinas> i will go there in a near future
[10:56] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:56] <trakinas> but i still prefer quodlibet. =P
[10:57] <PhinnFort> trakinas: well, freedom of choice;)
[10:57] <kadaz> like it !
[10:57] <trakinas> yep! :] 
[10:57] <PhinnFort> can't force you to use the superior solution
[10:57] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:57] <PhinnFort> kadaz: rather than having one huge crap running, you have several small ones cooperating
[10:57] <PhinnFort> and with a highly optimized kernel, like the linux kernel, the overhead is minimal
[10:57] <kadaz> half of mem is gone though.  500 out 1 gig, this norm?
[10:57] <trakinas> haha! i was going to install listen, but you need half gnome to do so. lol
[10:58] <PhinnFort> kadaz: yes;)
[10:58] <PhinnFort> trakinas: the dark side of pre-compiled packages;)
[10:58] <trakinas> =P
[10:58] <trakinas> kadaz: if you going to install beryl, use THEIR packager
[10:59] <PhinnFort> kadaz: the Linux kernel always try to use as much ram as possible, to cache disk readings, the swap file, etc.
[10:59] <kadaz> I  tried  beryl, but even with all features off...  its needs a superior card to handle it.
[10:59] <PhinnFort> kadaz: tried compiz?
[11:00] <user_> hello
[11:00] <kadaz> !compiz
[11:00] <trakinas> PhinnFort: beryl is a compiz forl
[11:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:00] <user_> how is
[11:00] <trakinas> *fork
[11:00] <trakinas> user_: hi
[11:00] <trakinas> i can even run n64 emulator here. =(
[11:01] <trakinas> *cat
[11:01] <trakinas> **cant
[11:01] <set> !mp3
[11:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:04] <CM_Jamie> Is there a way of telling when someone last typed something?
[11:05] <trakinas> PhinnFort: intersting article!
[11:05] <trakinas> CM_Jamie: if the bot has a script for it.
[11:06] <kadaz> how do I diable acpi on k permently
[11:06] <kadaz> I need two moniters to boot into K
[11:06] <kadaz> I meant, I use
[11:06] <trakinas> PhinnFort: but my personal taste is most for gnome/gtk+  so far.
[11:07] <CM_Jamie> Ah ok. Thanks.
[11:07] <CM_Jamie> Shame not here then. :P
[11:08] <trakinas> google is your friend: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[11:09] <KungPowah> Hi guys... I have installed emerald and beryl.. The problem is, when i run beryl i have no panels over my windows :S Any idea what to do ?
[11:10] <trakinas> KungPowah: have you installed beryl through adept/apt or beryl own deb?
[11:11] <trakinas> PhinnFort: 477MB this is too much for someone with only 512mb...
[11:11] <KungPowah> Thrue adept
[11:12] <trakinas> KungPowah: this is possible what is causing the troubles.
[11:12] <trakinas> my friend had problems over adept, but worked fine with the beryl deb
[11:12] <nzk> Is there a GTK app that lets you track the amount of time you have been doing a task by clicking start and stop?
[11:13] <KungPowah> hmm okay
[11:14] <KungPowah> So i need to uninstall it in adept an then install it with beryl deb ?
[11:14] <trakinas> KungPowah: sure! :] 
[11:14] <trakinas> nzk: i dont have any clue.
[11:14] <nzk> I know there was one
[11:14] <nzk> I just forgot the name
[11:15] <trakinas> gnomefiles.org
[11:16] <BluesKaj> nzk, Ksystemlog ?
[11:16] <thomas_> hi
[11:16] <nzk> BluesKaj, I meant like if I want to know how much time I've been doing yard work
[11:16] <Ejdesgaard> i have a problem with beryl/emerald
[11:16] <erichj> how do you change the KDM theme if there is no admin button to click?
[11:17] <BluesKaj> oh like i was today :) ...dunno, I just use my watch
[11:17] <nzk> But if I want to do it on my computer...
[11:17] <nzk> I need to track the amount of time I study for my exams
[11:18] <nzk> Karm
[11:18] <Ejdesgaard> if i start beryl-manager in console, and load beryl, then the decorator doesn't load, and when i force it to reload i get the folowing error: beryl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
[11:18] <nzk> I knew there was one
[11:18] <kadaz> !xgl
[11:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:18] <BluesKaj> try searching on google-linux, nzk
[11:18] <nzk> The name is Karm
[11:18] <nzk> I found it :|
[11:18] <BluesKaj> no matter i won't use it anyway :)
[11:19] <BluesKaj> <<--- retired
[11:19] <kadaz> how do I know if xgl is installed?
[11:19] <nzk> You really misunderstand context
[11:19] <nzk> kadaz, is your computer running as if it has a 4086?
[11:20] <kadaz> ?
[11:20] <trakinas> erichj: in kdm folder, i guess
[11:20] <kadaz> is that MPH?
[11:20] <BluesKaj> kadaz in the terminal 'xglinfo'
[11:20] <nzk> kadaz, ...
[11:20] <set> I fixed flash :)
[11:21] <kadaz> -su: xglinfo: command not found
[11:21] <BluesKaj> sorry kadaz , glxinfo
[11:21] <kadaz> Error: unable to open display (null)
[11:22] <nzk> kadaz, Now we've got it licked
[11:22] <nzk> You don't have a monitor
[11:22] <kadaz> I got two moniters :d
[11:22] <nzk> Not according to your shell.
[11:23] <kadaz> well the shell needs to be cracked and find a lookie
[11:23] <rodrigo_> ok guys this software can be installed in kubuntu http://ktoon.toonka.com/?
[11:25] <kadaz> xgl is xserver with opengl?
[11:26] <trakinas> kadaz: yes. if im not wrong
[11:26] <trakinas> rodrigo_: if you fulfill it requireaments, yes.
[11:26] <rodrigo_> requirements?
[11:26] <steveire> I've used usermod -a -G admin mike to add mike to admin. How do I remove mike from the admin group?
[11:26] <trakinas> rodrigo_: yes
[11:27] <trakinas> rodrigo_: qt 4.1.4 or qt 4.2
[11:27] <rodrigo_> qt?
[11:27] <trakinas> rodrigo_: and compile from source or use the binary. dont use the deb if you arent using ubutu 6
[11:28] <trakinas> rodrigo_: yes. qt. the graphic library for jde
[11:28] <trakinas> *kde
[11:28] <rodrigo_> ooooh
[11:28] <rodrigo_> Im using the latest version of kubuntu
[11:28] <trakinas> rodrigo_: are you using feisty faw?
[11:28] <trakinas> if yes, then everything is okay
[11:28] <rodrigo_> feisty faw?
[11:29] <rodrigo_> the apt installer?
[11:29] <trakinas> yes. *ubuntu 7.o
[11:29] <rodrigo_> yes
[11:29] <trakinas> nops, the ubuntu version
[11:29] <trakinas> so, go for it
[11:29] <rodrigo_> How do I install it?
[11:29] <rodrigo_> just copy paste the commands in the console?
[11:30] <kadaz> do I restart xserver once compiz is started?
[11:30] <kadaz> I meant installed
[11:30] <trakinas> kadaz: you have to start compiz if it isnt started automaticaly
[11:30] <trakinas> ah
[11:30] <trakinas> yes
[11:30] <trakinas> rodrigo_: you can use the binary or the source code
[11:30] <trakinas> https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2960
[11:30] <kadaz> can I do that without losing my session
[11:31] <trakinas> im not sure if it is safe to use 6.0 Ubuntu packages on feisty faw
[11:31] <rodrigo_> Im neawby how do I do that?
[11:31] <trakinas> kadaz: no.
[11:31] <kadaz> k
[11:31] <trakinas> rodrigo_: it probably has instructions inside the package.
[11:31] <trakinas> rodrigo_: one sec
[11:31] <rodrigo_> yep thanks trakinas
[11:31] <trakinas> rodrigo_: #kubuntu-br
[11:32] <kadaz> trackinas how do I disable acpi perm on K
[11:32] <trakinas> kadaz: disable it on the bios
[11:32] <trakinas> !portuguese
[11:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:33] <kadaz> any linux distro's free up on bootup with nv card as 1select
[11:33] <kadaz> all power options are turned off in bios
[11:33] <trakinas> rodrigo_: access #ubuntu-br (/j ubuntu-br)
[11:33] <kadaz> I meant freeze up
[11:34] <trakinas> kadaz: well, you can on ubuntu go to system admin and disable acpi start-up
[11:35] <kadaz> wheres that,   system settings/advanced?
[11:36] <kadaz> found it
[11:36] <trakinas> kadaz: :] ] 
[11:36] <ubuntuNoobus> does anyone know about running or installing ipodlinux?
[11:37] <trakinas> ubuntuNoobus: look on ipodlinux wiki
[11:37] <kadaz> brb
[11:37] <trakinas> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Main_Page
[11:38] <ubuntuNoobus> iu've been on, have it running on my 30gb photo without any problems but having problems installaing to my 80gb vid needed to talk to someone about it but everyone on the ipodlinux channel is dead i think
[11:40] <drew> can anyone help me with Thunderbird 2.0 and kubuntu?
[11:41] <trakinas> i dont even have a ipod.
[11:41] <trakinas> =(
[11:41] <ubuntuNoobus> anyway i have a problem with my kubuntu installation, i installed a dual booting system between kubuntu/ windows xp and it worked great one daym but the next day it kept coming up that the network manager had failed and that was the end of that?
[11:41] <crimsun> you're not missing anything, trakinas.
[11:41] <ubuntuNoobus> i dunno i couldn't live without mine
[11:42] <trakinas> crimsun: im thinking about buying an iAudio though
[11:42] <crimsun> this iPod is utter jun
[11:42] <crimsun> k
[11:45] <t1n0m3n> Hi, I need help using Microsoft Certificates on kubuntu for wireless connectivity using WPA/TLS.  I am using knetworkmanager
[11:46] <t1n0m3n> Cisco ACS says that I am not using TLS even though I have TLS checked in KNetworkmanager
[11:49] <t1n0m3n> anyone alive?
[11:49] <trakinas> yep
[11:49] <trakinas> but i cant help
[11:49] <t1n0m3n> kk, thanks
[11:49] <akshay> hey room
[11:50] <t1n0m3n> hi
[11:50] <FSHero> HaSH
[11:50] <CM_Jamie> Eh??
[11:50] <FSHero> Woah... sorry for typing garbage.
[11:51] <t1n0m3n> ok, well, I guess I will continue to hammer on this TLS issue with google then.  Thanks
[11:52] <FSHero> CM_Jamie: PM me pls
[11:52] <CM_Jamie> Google is indeed one's friend. :D
[11:54] <FSHero> CM_Jamie: I'm off. See you tommorow/another day
[11:58] <t1n0m3n> anyone here have kubuntu+wpa enterprise experience?
[11:58] <CM_Jamie> Ok
[12:01] <Darkkish> Sound... sounds b etter in linux
[12:01] <Darkkish> Idk why
[12:01] <Darkkish> like better drivers or something
[12:03] <Darkkish> !ntfs
[12:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:05] <elvin> could someone tell me how to check my default gateway with the command line?
[12:05] <Darkkish> !ntfs-3g
[12:05] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:05] <Darkkish> hmm
[12:05] <crimsun> elvin: `route -n|grep UG`
[12:05] <elvin> Thanks crimsun
[12:07] <jordo23> I seem to have a file in my trash that will not delete when emptying it. How do I delete this file manually?
[12:07] <jordo23> Where does the trash map to?
[12:08] <Roey> heh
[12:14] <Dragnslcr> jordo23- ~/.local/share/Trash