[02:47] <thully> hi - I tried Gutsy Tribe 1 and the fonts are HUGE on my MacBook as compared to Feisty.  Does anyone know what the issue is here and how to fix it...
[02:47] <thully> I did a dist-upgrade too... still had the HUGE fonts
[04:06] <buntu> anybody on nvidia 100 series driver? i get api mismatch error, latest restricted module package is 2.6.20-16.28, whereas latest generic image and headers are 2.6.20-16.29- could this be the cause?
[04:12] <buntu> anybody on nvidia 100 series driver? i get api mismatch error, latest restricted module package is 2.6.20-16.28, whereas latest generic image and headers are 2.6.20-16.29- could this be the cause?
[04:13] <Hobbsee> !repeat
[04:13] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:13] <Hobbsee> buntu: could be.. just wait
[04:14] <RAOF> buntu: How are you getting the 100 series driver?  Ubotu still thinks nvidia-glx-new is 9775
[04:15] <buntu> nvidia site
[04:16] <RAOF> So the problem is that you've incorrectly installed those drivers.  Specifically, you need to edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common, and add "nv" to your DISABLED_MODULES.
[04:23] <buntu> adding nv did not work
[04:30] <RAOF> buntu: Have you rebuilt your nvidia kernel module for the new kernel?
[04:30] <RAOF> buntu: Incidentally, why are you using those drivers?
[04:32] <DanaG> 100.whatever drivers do hotkey display switching for me,
[04:32] <buntu> nvidia propaganda says it works better with newer kernels, gonna see if it does
[04:32] <RAOF> Aaah.
[04:32] <DanaG> which is cool.  Oh, and coolbits for mobile
[04:32] <DanaG> (so I would be able to set it not to go to such a slow speed in 2D mode.
[04:34] <buntu> i installed xserver-xorg-dev that might do it, brb
[04:35] <RAOF> Um, no, that won't do it.
[06:29] <buntu> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490 + aaronp's comment with shell script got 100.14.09 nvidia drivers to work for me, if anyone was curious
[06:42] <RAOF> Heh, I like that "bug" in Xorg 7.2
[06:46] <thully> hi - does anyone have a clue regarding what's wrong with/how to fix the fonts on Gutsy
[06:46] <thully> I installed Tribe 1 on my MacBook, and they are HUGE
[06:46] <RAOF> thully: Check that your DPI is set to something sane in System->Preferences->Fonts
[06:48] <thully> that might be it - though a Feisty install on the same system has normal fonts
[06:48] <thully> will reboot into Gutsy and try...
[06:49] <thully> I figured it was the DPI, but I didn't remember where the setting was
[08:25] <RAOF> Note to self:  Upgrading glib while building compiz may result in a miscompiled compiz :)
[08:35] <Hobbsee> RAOF: no pbuilder?
[08:36] <RAOF> Hobbsee: Local development.
[08:36] <RAOF> Not building packages, building git.
[08:37] <Hobbsee> ahh
[08:37] <coNP> How do I open Corel Draw .cdr files?
[08:37] <RAOF> (And sticking it into ~/Compiz, to not mess with the system)
[08:37] <rollerskatejamms> I really like the way fonts look in gutsy
[08:37] <rollerskatejamms> what was changed?
[08:37] <RAOF> gnome-settings-daemon uses Xorg's DPI for fonts, I believe.
[08:38] <RAOF> And a _lot_ of people mention it :)
[08:38] <rollerskatejamms> Hmm . . . but isn't that what causes that bug in Xubuntu?
[08:38] <rollerskatejamms> the font shrinking bug
[08:38] <rollerskatejamms> yup, fonts look bigger now all of the sudden
[08:38] <rollerskatejamms> grr
[08:45] <RAOF> Man, it's *not* obvious how to merge a local tree in git.
[08:46] <crimsun> pull from the originator into the target
[08:47] <RAOF> Yeah, I found that.
[08:47] <RAOF> However, one might naievly suspect that "git merge" was the command I was after.
[08:48] <RAOF> Too much bzr for the RAOF!
[08:53] <DanaG> I already liked fonts in Feisty, once I set DPI and Full RGB subpixel hinting.
[08:53] <DanaG> Is anything different in Gutsy?
[08:53] <DanaG> Oh yeah, G-P-M needs to ignore the profile until it's made a profile -- otherwise you get things like 50%, 5 minutes.
[08:53] <DanaG> And I need to file the "Screeen blinks, or turns OFF, when switching to battery" bug.
[08:53] <crimsun> FWIW I find git more intuitive than bzr
[08:54] <RAOF> Eh, maybe I've just used bzr more.
[08:55] <crimsun> RAOF: yes, the false intuition often occurs
[08:55] <crimsun> I'm not saying that git is any more sane than bzr, only that I've used git far more often and consistently that its bassackwardness "makes sense"
[08:56] <RAOF> :)
[08:57] <RAOF> Bah, this debian iso is not going to get downloaded before I run out of quota.
[08:57] <Hobbsee> out of quota already???
[08:58] <RAOF> Bah!  Maybe I should remap that deskbar keybinding :)
[08:58] <crimsun> now that's interesting, I think I just hit a gnome-terminal bug
[08:59] <RAOF> Cool!
[08:59] <crimsun> it thinks "chris@dhcp046153.wireless.unsw" is a valid URL, but the trailing .EDU.AU isn't part of it
[08:59] <RAOF> Hm.  Odd.
[09:01] <RAOF> Man, I just want my home internet back.
[09:02] <RAOF> 2c/MB is too much.
[09:04] <Jordan_U> :(
[09:05] <Jordan_U> I was hoping that the smaller font / title bar sizes were going to stay, recent update just made them bigger than the default.
[11:53] <chowmeined> will gutsy come with the new open source java vm and libraries?
[01:39] <DanaG> Drag-and-drop shows a preview of the text you're moving/copying.
[02:35] <DanaG> Hmm, I oughtta try the -mobile things under a VM some time.
[02:51] <DanaG> ****, where can I find the deb of beryl-plugins 0.1.99999.2~1, or whatever it was?
[02:51] <DanaG> Everything later than that breaks magic-lamp and sidekick.
[02:54] <DanaG> aah, http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/pool/feisty/main/0.1.9999.2/
[03:02] <Hobbsee> twitch
[03:02] <Hobbsee> DanaG: be careful they dont break your X
[04:13] <svschwart1> hello everybody I've got problem with KVM on Gusty Tribe1
[04:13] <svschwart1> used howto from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[04:13] <svschwart1> created image, but vm doesn't start
[04:13] <svschwart1> user@amd1-desktop:~$ kvm -no-acpi -m 384 -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d windows.img
[04:13] <svschwart1> kvm_create_vm: Invalid argument
[04:13] <svschwart1> Could not create KVM context
[04:23] <svschwart1> anybody ))
[04:30] <svschwart1> bug already in launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kvm/+bug/119254
[04:30] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119254 in kvm "Fails to create KVM context on linux-image-2.6.22-6" [Undecided,In progress] 
[04:31] <DanaG> Oh, I only installed the old beryl-plugins.
[04:31] <DanaG> Everything else is the newest.
[05:05] <DanaG> Odd: two-finger scrolling works, but it doesn't always start reliably.
[05:06] <DanaG> Sometimes my mouse will move, and other times it will scroll.
[05:12] <Hobbsee> DanaG: are you interested in helping with some bug triage?
[05:14] <DanaG> I think I may look into things after Friday -- my last final of this quarter.
[05:15] <DanaG> Aah, looks like it has to do with how long you have one finger down before the other touches.
[05:15] <DanaG> try synclient -m 100 (100 ms, I think).
[05:17] <Hobbsee> there's people therea nd talking now
[05:17] <Hobbsee> and you dont appera to be doing finals now anyway :P
[05:17] <DanaG> Or maybe not... I get some 0->2 right away, without scrolling.
[05:18] <DanaG> Maybe it's a combination of Z and number of fingers.
[05:23] <DanaG> ooooh: http://lanpartei.de/~stefan/
[05:30] <DanaG> Hmm, looks like that patch is already there.  I can hold one finger and move the other, but only sometimes will it scroll.
[05:41] <DanaG> I think I will file a bug on that.
[05:44] <DanaG> Odd, ksynaptics shows two-finger scrolling, but has it disabled.
[05:50] <Hobbsee> DanaG: please file it in debian, if your'e filing on ksynaptics
[05:51] <DanaG> I had a few wishlists I'd like to group together: evdev by default, synaptics as corepointer by default, with SHMConfig on.
[05:51] <DanaG> Oh, and install gsynaptics if a laptop is detected.
[05:52] <Hobbsee> please tell me you're not going to file one bug requesting all of that...
[05:52] <Hobbsee> ksynaptics is talked about as being default, anyway
[05:54] <DanaG> What about for Gnome?
[05:55] <DanaG> Oh yeah, that would be two bugs: One for touchpad (synaptics driver, shmconfig, corepointer, GUI (link to existing discussion), one for using evdev if a many-button mouse is detected.
[05:55] <Hobbsee> oh good
[05:55] <Hobbsee> i dont know about gnome, i dont use it.
[05:56] <DanaG> Argh. kcontrol screwed with my sensitivity, perhaps.
[05:59] <shirish> guys anybody getting this error after today's updates Use of uninitialized value in string ne at /usr/sbin/update-alternatives line 602.
[06:00] <Hobbsee> uh, that's been there for days, iirc
[06:03] <shirish> Hobbsee: ah ok, I just was hit with it after today's updates
[06:04] <shirish> Hobbsee: has somebody put it in either the gusty forum or reported it somewhere as I would like to subscribe the thread and/or bug
[06:05] <Hobbsee> i dunno.  that's what a search is for.
[06:05] <Hobbsee> even if i did know, i woudlnt be able to give you the link off teh top of my head, so you'd still ahve to search
[06:06] <shirish> ah ok, the most difficult thing to do "Search"
[06:08] <shirish> Hobbsee: lol, I had reported it in ubuntuforums about 4 days back, then it somehow was straightened out, now it has come back again.
[06:08] <shirish> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2810922
[06:10] <Hobbsee> :)
[06:10] <DanaG> aah, bashism?
[06:11] <shirish> DanaG: what's bashism?
[06:12] <DanaG> -ne -- apparently means "not equal".
[06:12] <DanaG> I don't really know bash syntax, however.
[06:13] <Hobbsee> check with man
[06:13] <Hobbsee> but it sounds about right, yes
[06:16] <DanaG> Cool, now I touch my touchpad with two fingers and move them to my left, and the cube spins to the left.
[06:17] <shirish> Hobbsee: DanaG: can you guys tell us if something can be worked out in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=472705
[06:17] <shirish> its an annoyance, but a proper way to do stuff would be good.
[06:18] <Hobbsee> meh.  fonts stuff keeps changing
[06:18] <Hobbsee> the proper way to do that is DisplaySize in xorg.conf, last time i asked.
[06:19] <DanaG> Or set dpi in font preferences.
[06:19] <DanaG> My screen (1440x900, 17") looks notably better at 99 DPI than at 100.
[06:20] <Hobbsee> my font DPI hasnt changed
[06:20] <Hobbsee> but i use KDE, so...
[06:22] <DanaG> That's a bug: kcontrol only offers 96 and 120 or 72 (I don't remember which).
[06:22] <Hobbsee> true that
[06:22] <Hobbsee> kcontrol is broken atm, iirc.
[06:24] <DanaG> I think it has been fixed.
[06:24] <DanaG> I still use "old" kcontrol, rather than system-settings.
[06:24] <Hobbsee> both seem broken.  it might be my old install, though
[06:28] <DanaG> I wonder.... if I run a DirectSound3D game under Wine with ALChemy, will it work with OpenAL on the host?
[06:28] <Hobbsee> try it?
[06:30] <shirish> DanaG: how do I set dpi in font preferences?
[06:30] <DanaG> "Details..."
[06:31] <shirish> DanaG: this DPI is for all the fonts ?
[06:31] <DanaG> Yeah, any GTK app.
[06:32] <shirish> ok it shows here as 108 DPI with radio buttons on grayscale & subpixel order
[06:32] <shirish> my monitor is a 17" analog CRT monitor
[06:32] <DanaG> Try all the options to see what's good.
[06:33] <DanaG> Oh, and if the DPI is not correct, measure your screen in millimeters and enter the size into xorg.conf.
[06:34] <shirish> ok something did change , for the better
[06:34] <shirish> thanx
[06:49] <ToHellWithGA> do yall know if compiz and beryl will be merged by the release date?
[06:49] <ToHellWithGA> the differences seem to be getting smaller and smaller, with the exception of the overly-complicated setup for beryl and simple (but somewhat limited) setup for compiz
[07:18] <ToHellWithGA> bug 120277
[07:18] <ToHellWithGA> bug 120227
[07:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120227 in linux-source-2.6.22 "rt2500-based network card not assigned network interface" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120227
[07:18] <ToHellWithGA> could yall confirm that i wrote that report properly?
[07:19] <ToHellWithGA> thanks
[08:19] <soc> hi
[08:19] <soc> is there a way to speed up "sudo pbuilder create"
[08:20] <soc> since an ubuntu update broke checkinstall i#m trying to set up pbuilder, but it looks like that this command downloads packages from the server which are already available on my computer
[08:20] <soc> seems to be quite unnecessary
[08:20] <soc> someone there?
[08:30] <soc> sorry, lost connection
[08:30] <soc> was someone able to answer my question in the time i went offline? :-)
[08:33] <soc> pbuilder takes ages ..
[08:34] <soc> is there something between checkinstall (which is not well liked by developers) and pbuilder (which seems to be inefficient for casual users)?
[08:41] <DanaG> Great, 90% of my packages just decided they are new.
[08:44] <DanaG>  I can't figure out how to get OpenAL for Wine, or even accelerated OpenAL for native apps.
[08:52] <pwnguin> xerosis: congratulations
[08:52] <pwnguin> x-spec-ting: congratutaions
[08:52] <xerosis> pwnguin: ?
[08:53] <pwnguin> xerosis: autocomplete picked you and i didnt notice =/
[08:53] <xerosis> pwnguin: heh, np
[08:54] <pwnguin> I've been trying out the nv drivers after it became clear that the nvidia drivers were not sleep state friendly
[08:54] <pwnguin> is there a "right way" to push the resolution above 1280x1024?
[08:54] <pwnguin> because i have it running at 1440x900 right now and all the fonts look way too small
[08:55] <pwnguin> im not sure if it's gutsy or just nv
[08:59] <pwnguin> also, it seems there's a bug in the dist-upgrader
[09:27] <DanaG> (snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'defaults.namehint.extended'
[09:28] <DanaG> ALSA lib pcm.c:2144:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM hw:0
[11:38] <soc> hi
[11:38] <soc> does someone know when fglrx will be updates to support xserver 1.3?
[11:41] <crimsun> sometime. perhaps real soon now.
[11:42] <soc> :-)
[11:42] <soc> hi crimsun ...
[11:42] <soc> i hop it ...
[11:43] <soc> having to block 16 packages isn't quite nice ...
[11:43] <soc> how do you now?
[11:44] <soc> crimsun: how do you now?
[11:46] <crimsun> did you mean "know"?
[11:56] <soc> yes
[11:56] <soc> sorry ...
[12:03] <ico2> What can I do about these errors? "Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Sources  Bad header line" I get a lot of them, I think only for gb.archive.ubuntu.com     any idea why?
[12:08] <pwnguin> are the gusty repos for those open yet?
[12:08] <gnomefreak> ico2: hold on a sec
[12:08] <gnomefreak> ico2: im using gd also and i didnt see that error before. im chekcing now
[12:11] <gnomefreak> ico2: its not the repos
[12:11] <ico2> hmmmm
[12:12] <gnomefreak> update went fine. are you installing packages at the time you get that error?
[12:12] <ico2> probably just my dialup connection being too slow and its timing out or something
[12:12] <gnomefreak> or just apt-get update
[12:12] <ico2> no
[12:12] <ico2> that was apt-get update
[12:12] <gnomefreak> mine was fine
[12:13] <gnomefreak> Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/restricted Sources
[12:13] <gnomefreak> Fetched 6796kB in 3m35s (31.5kB/s)
[12:13] <gnomefreak> those are the last few line
[12:13] <gnomefreak> Reading package lists... Done
[12:13] <ico2> :(
[12:13] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@GutsyGibbon:~$
[12:13] <ico2> yeah
[12:13] <ico2> oh well
[12:13] <gnomefreak> sictry using uk instead of gb for it instead
[12:13] <ico2> thanks anyway :s
[12:13] <gnomefreak> ico2: try ^^
[12:14] <gnomefreak> that will tell you if its the mirror you are using