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thullyhi - I tried Gutsy Tribe 1 and the fonts are HUGE on my MacBook as compared to Feisty.  Does anyone know what the issue is here and how to fix it...02:47
thullyI did a dist-upgrade too... still had the HUGE fonts02:47
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buntuanybody on nvidia 100 series driver? i get api mismatch error, latest restricted module package is 2.6.20-16.28, whereas latest generic image and headers are 2.6.20-16.29- could this be the cause?04:06
buntuanybody on nvidia 100 series driver? i get api mismatch error, latest restricted module package is 2.6.20-16.28, whereas latest generic image and headers are 2.6.20-16.29- could this be the cause?04:12
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Hobbsee!repeat04:13
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience04:13
Hobbseebuntu: could be.. just wait04:13
RAOFbuntu: How are you getting the 100 series driver?  Ubotu still thinks nvidia-glx-new is 977504:14
buntunvidia site04:15
RAOFSo the problem is that you've incorrectly installed those drivers.  Specifically, you need to edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common, and add "nv" to your DISABLED_MODULES.04:16
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buntuadding nv did not work04:23
RAOFbuntu: Have you rebuilt your nvidia kernel module for the new kernel?04:30
RAOFbuntu: Incidentally, why are you using those drivers?04:30
DanaG100.whatever drivers do hotkey display switching for me,04:32
buntunvidia propaganda says it works better with newer kernels, gonna see if it does04:32
RAOFAaah.04:32
DanaGwhich is cool.  Oh, and coolbits for mobile04:32
DanaG(so I would be able to set it not to go to such a slow speed in 2D mode.04:32
buntui installed xserver-xorg-dev that might do it, brb04:34
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RAOFUm, no, that won't do it.04:35
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buntuhttp://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490 + aaronp's comment with shell script got 100.14.09 nvidia drivers to work for me, if anyone was curious06:29
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RAOFHeh, I like that "bug" in Xorg 7.206:42
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thullyhi - does anyone have a clue regarding what's wrong with/how to fix the fonts on Gutsy06:46
thullyI installed Tribe 1 on my MacBook, and they are HUGE06:46
RAOFthully: Check that your DPI is set to something sane in System->Preferences->Fonts06:46
thullythat might be it - though a Feisty install on the same system has normal fonts06:48
thullywill reboot into Gutsy and try...06:48
thullyI figured it was the DPI, but I didn't remember where the setting was06:49
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RAOFNote to self:  Upgrading glib while building compiz may result in a miscompiled compiz :)08:25
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HobbseeRAOF: no pbuilder?08:35
RAOFHobbsee: Local development.08:36
RAOFNot building packages, building git.08:36
Hobbseeahh08:37
coNPHow do I open Corel Draw .cdr files?08:37
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RAOF(And sticking it into ~/Compiz, to not mess with the system)08:37
rollerskatejammsI really like the way fonts look in gutsy08:37
rollerskatejammswhat was changed?08:37
RAOFgnome-settings-daemon uses Xorg's DPI for fonts, I believe.08:37
RAOFAnd a _lot_ of people mention it :)08:38
rollerskatejammsHmm . . . but isn't that what causes that bug in Xubuntu?08:38
rollerskatejammsthe font shrinking bug08:38
rollerskatejammsyup, fonts look bigger now all of the sudden08:38
rollerskatejammsgrr08:38
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RAOFMan, it's *not* obvious how to merge a local tree in git.08:45
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crimsunpull from the originator into the target08:46
RAOFYeah, I found that.08:47
RAOFHowever, one might naievly suspect that "git merge" was the command I was after.08:47
RAOFToo much bzr for the RAOF!08:48
DanaGI already liked fonts in Feisty, once I set DPI and Full RGB subpixel hinting.08:53
DanaGIs anything different in Gutsy?08:53
DanaGOh yeah, G-P-M needs to ignore the profile until it's made a profile -- otherwise you get things like 50%, 5 minutes.08:53
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DanaGAnd I need to file the "Screeen blinks, or turns OFF, when switching to battery" bug.08:53
crimsunFWIW I find git more intuitive than bzr08:53
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RAOFEh, maybe I've just used bzr more.08:54
crimsunRAOF: yes, the false intuition often occurs08:55
crimsunI'm not saying that git is any more sane than bzr, only that I've used git far more often and consistently that its bassackwardness "makes sense"08:55
RAOF:)08:56
RAOFBah, this debian iso is not going to get downloaded before I run out of quota.08:57
Hobbseeout of quota already???08:57
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RAOFBah!  Maybe I should remap that deskbar keybinding :)08:58
crimsunnow that's interesting, I think I just hit a gnome-terminal bug08:58
RAOFCool!08:59
crimsunit thinks "chris@dhcp046153.wireless.unsw" is a valid URL, but the trailing .EDU.AU isn't part of it08:59
RAOFHm.  Odd.08:59
RAOFMan, I just want my home internet back.09:01
RAOF2c/MB is too much.09:02
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Jordan_U:(09:04
Jordan_UI was hoping that the smaller font / title bar sizes were going to stay, recent update just made them bigger than the default.09:05
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chowmeinedwill gutsy come with the new open source java vm and libraries?11:53
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=== DanaG likes using gedit.
DanaGDrag-and-drop shows a preview of the text you're moving/copying.01:39
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DanaGHmm, I oughtta try the -mobile things under a VM some time.02:35
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DanaG****, where can I find the deb of beryl-plugins 0.1.99999.2~1, or whatever it was?02:51
DanaGEverything later than that breaks magic-lamp and sidekick.02:51
DanaGaah, http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/pool/feisty/main/0.1.9999.2/02:54
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Hobbseetwitch03:02
HobbseeDanaG: be careful they dont break your X03:02
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svschwart1hello everybody I've got problem with KVM on Gusty Tribe104:13
svschwart1used howto from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM04:13
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svschwart1created image, but vm doesn't start04:13
svschwart1user@amd1-desktop:~$ kvm -no-acpi -m 384 -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d windows.img04:13
svschwart1kvm_create_vm: Invalid argument04:13
svschwart1Could not create KVM context04:13
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svschwart1anybody ))04:23
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svschwart1bug already in launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kvm/+bug/11925404:30
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119254 in kvm "Fails to create KVM context on linux-image-2.6.22-6" [Undecided,In progress] 04:30
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DanaGOh, I only installed the old beryl-plugins.04:31
DanaGEverything else is the newest.04:31
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DanaGOdd: two-finger scrolling works, but it doesn't always start reliably.05:05
DanaGSometimes my mouse will move, and other times it will scroll.05:06
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HobbseeDanaG: are you interested in helping with some bug triage?05:12
DanaGI think I may look into things after Friday -- my last final of this quarter.05:14
DanaGAah, looks like it has to do with how long you have one finger down before the other touches.05:15
DanaGtry synclient -m 100 (100 ms, I think).05:15
Hobbseethere's people therea nd talking now05:17
Hobbseeand you dont appera to be doing finals now anyway :P05:17
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DanaGOr maybe not... I get some 0->2 right away, without scrolling.05:17
DanaGMaybe it's a combination of Z and number of fingers.05:18
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DanaGooooh: http://lanpartei.de/~stefan/05:23
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DanaGHmm, looks like that patch is already there.  I can hold one finger and move the other, but only sometimes will it scroll.05:30
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DanaGI think I will file a bug on that.05:41
DanaGOdd, ksynaptics shows two-finger scrolling, but has it disabled.05:44
HobbseeDanaG: please file it in debian, if your'e filing on ksynaptics05:50
DanaGI had a few wishlists I'd like to group together: evdev by default, synaptics as corepointer by default, with SHMConfig on.05:51
DanaGOh, and install gsynaptics if a laptop is detected.05:51
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Hobbseeplease tell me you're not going to file one bug requesting all of that...05:52
Hobbseeksynaptics is talked about as being default, anyway05:52
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DanaGWhat about for Gnome?05:54
DanaGOh yeah, that would be two bugs: One for touchpad (synaptics driver, shmconfig, corepointer, GUI (link to existing discussion), one for using evdev if a many-button mouse is detected.05:55
Hobbseeoh good05:55
Hobbseei dont know about gnome, i dont use it.05:55
DanaGArgh. kcontrol screwed with my sensitivity, perhaps.05:56
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shirishguys anybody getting this error after today's updates Use of uninitialized value in string ne at /usr/sbin/update-alternatives line 602.05:59
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Hobbseeuh, that's been there for days, iirc06:00
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shirishHobbsee: ah ok, I just was hit with it after today's updates06:03
shirishHobbsee: has somebody put it in either the gusty forum or reported it somewhere as I would like to subscribe the thread and/or bug06:04
Hobbseei dunno.  that's what a search is for.06:05
Hobbseeeven if i did know, i woudlnt be able to give you the link off teh top of my head, so you'd still ahve to search06:05
shirishah ok, the most difficult thing to do "Search"06:06
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shirishHobbsee: lol, I had reported it in ubuntuforums about 4 days back, then it somehow was straightened out, now it has come back again.06:08
shirishhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=281092206:08
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Hobbsee:)06:10
DanaGaah, bashism?06:10
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shirishDanaG: what's bashism?06:11
DanaG-ne -- apparently means "not equal".06:12
DanaGI don't really know bash syntax, however.06:12
Hobbseecheck with man06:13
Hobbseebut it sounds about right, yes06:13
DanaGCool, now I touch my touchpad with two fingers and move them to my left, and the cube spins to the left.06:16
shirishHobbsee: DanaG: can you guys tell us if something can be worked out in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47270506:17
shirishits an annoyance, but a proper way to do stuff would be good.06:17
Hobbseemeh.  fonts stuff keeps changing06:18
Hobbseethe proper way to do that is DisplaySize in xorg.conf, last time i asked.06:18
DanaGOr set dpi in font preferences.06:19
DanaGMy screen (1440x900, 17") looks notably better at 99 DPI than at 100.06:19
Hobbseemy font DPI hasnt changed06:20
Hobbseebut i use KDE, so...06:20
DanaGThat's a bug: kcontrol only offers 96 and 120 or 72 (I don't remember which).06:22
Hobbseetrue that06:22
Hobbseekcontrol is broken atm, iirc.06:22
DanaGI think it has been fixed.06:24
DanaGI still use "old" kcontrol, rather than system-settings.06:24
Hobbseeboth seem broken.  it might be my old install, though06:24
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DanaGI wonder.... if I run a DirectSound3D game under Wine with ALChemy, will it work with OpenAL on the host?06:28
Hobbseetry it?06:28
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shirishDanaG: how do I set dpi in font preferences?06:30
DanaG"Details..."06:30
shirishDanaG: this DPI is for all the fonts ?06:31
DanaGYeah, any GTK app.06:31
shirishok it shows here as 108 DPI with radio buttons on grayscale & subpixel order06:32
shirishmy monitor is a 17" analog CRT monitor06:32
DanaGTry all the options to see what's good.06:32
DanaGOh, and if the DPI is not correct, measure your screen in millimeters and enter the size into xorg.conf.06:33
shirishok something did change , for the better06:34
shirishthanx06:34
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ToHellWithGAdo yall know if compiz and beryl will be merged by the release date?06:49
ToHellWithGAthe differences seem to be getting smaller and smaller, with the exception of the overly-complicated setup for beryl and simple (but somewhat limited) setup for compiz06:49
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ToHellWithGAbug 12027707:18
ToHellWithGAbug 12022707:18
ubotuLaunchpad bug 120227 in linux-source-2.6.22 "rt2500-based network card not assigned network interface" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12022707:18
ToHellWithGAcould yall confirm that i wrote that report properly?07:18
ToHellWithGAthanks07:19
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sochi08:19
socis there a way to speed up "sudo pbuilder create"08:19
socsince an ubuntu update broke checkinstall i#m trying to set up pbuilder, but it looks like that this command downloads packages from the server which are already available on my computer08:20
socseems to be quite unnecessary08:20
socsomeone there?08:20
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socsorry, lost connection08:30
socwas someone able to answer my question in the time i went offline? :-)08:30
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socpbuilder takes ages ..08:33
socis there something between checkinstall (which is not well liked by developers) and pbuilder (which seems to be inefficient for casual users)?08:34
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DanaGGreat, 90% of my packages just decided they are new.08:41
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DanaG I can't figure out how to get OpenAL for Wine, or even accelerated OpenAL for native apps.08:44
pwnguinxerosis: congratulations08:52
pwnguinx-spec-ting: congratutaions08:52
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xerosispwnguin: ?08:52
pwnguinxerosis: autocomplete picked you and i didnt notice =/08:53
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xerosispwnguin: heh, np08:53
pwnguinI've been trying out the nv drivers after it became clear that the nvidia drivers were not sleep state friendly08:54
pwnguinis there a "right way" to push the resolution above 1280x1024?08:54
pwnguinbecause i have it running at 1440x900 right now and all the fonts look way too small08:54
pwnguinim not sure if it's gutsy or just nv08:55
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pwnguinalso, it seems there's a bug in the dist-upgrader08:59
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DanaG(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'defaults.namehint.extended'09:27
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DanaGALSA lib pcm.c:2144:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM hw:009:28
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sochi11:38
socdoes someone know when fglrx will be updates to support xserver 1.3?11:38
crimsunsometime. perhaps real soon now.11:41
soc:-)11:42
sochi crimsun ...11:42
soci hop it ...11:42
sochaving to block 16 packages isn't quite nice ...11:43
sochow do you now?11:43
soccrimsun: how do you now?11:44
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crimsundid you mean "know"?11:46
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socyes11:56
socsorry ...11:56
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ico2What can I do about these errors? "Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Sources  Bad header line" I get a lot of them, I think only for gb.archive.ubuntu.com     any idea why?12:03
pwnguinare the gusty repos for those open yet?12:08
gnomefreakico2: hold on a sec12:08
gnomefreakico2: im using gd also and i didnt see that error before. im chekcing now12:08
gnomefreakico2: its not the repos12:11
ico2hmmmm12:11
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gnomefreakupdate went fine. are you installing packages at the time you get that error?12:12
ico2probably just my dialup connection being too slow and its timing out or something12:12
gnomefreakor just apt-get update12:12
ico2no12:12
ico2that was apt-get update12:12
gnomefreakmine was fine12:12
gnomefreakHit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/restricted Sources12:13
gnomefreakFetched 6796kB in 3m35s (31.5kB/s)12:13
gnomefreakthose are the last few line12:13
gnomefreakReading package lists... Done12:13
ico2:(12:13
gnomefreakgnomefreak@GutsyGibbon:~$12:13
ico2yeah12:13
ico2oh well12:13
gnomefreaksictry using uk instead of gb for it instead12:13
ico2thanks anyway :s12:13
gnomefreakico2: try ^^12:13
gnomefreakthat will tell you if its the mirror you are using12:14
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