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thully | hi - I tried Gutsy Tribe 1 and the fonts are HUGE on my MacBook as compared to Feisty. Does anyone know what the issue is here and how to fix it... | 02:47 |
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thully | I did a dist-upgrade too... still had the HUGE fonts | 02:47 |
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buntu | anybody on nvidia 100 series driver? i get api mismatch error, latest restricted module package is 2.6.20-16.28, whereas latest generic image and headers are 2.6.20-16.29- could this be the cause? | 04:06 |
buntu | anybody on nvidia 100 series driver? i get api mismatch error, latest restricted module package is 2.6.20-16.28, whereas latest generic image and headers are 2.6.20-16.29- could this be the cause? | 04:12 |
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Hobbsee | !repeat | 04:13 |
ubotu | Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience | 04:13 |
Hobbsee | buntu: could be.. just wait | 04:13 |
RAOF | buntu: How are you getting the 100 series driver? Ubotu still thinks nvidia-glx-new is 9775 | 04:14 |
buntu | nvidia site | 04:15 |
RAOF | So the problem is that you've incorrectly installed those drivers. Specifically, you need to edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common, and add "nv" to your DISABLED_MODULES. | 04:16 |
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buntu | adding nv did not work | 04:23 |
RAOF | buntu: Have you rebuilt your nvidia kernel module for the new kernel? | 04:30 |
RAOF | buntu: Incidentally, why are you using those drivers? | 04:30 |
DanaG | 100.whatever drivers do hotkey display switching for me, | 04:32 |
buntu | nvidia propaganda says it works better with newer kernels, gonna see if it does | 04:32 |
RAOF | Aaah. | 04:32 |
DanaG | which is cool. Oh, and coolbits for mobile | 04:32 |
DanaG | (so I would be able to set it not to go to such a slow speed in 2D mode. | 04:32 |
buntu | i installed xserver-xorg-dev that might do it, brb | 04:34 |
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RAOF | Um, no, that won't do it. | 04:35 |
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buntu | http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490 + aaronp's comment with shell script got 100.14.09 nvidia drivers to work for me, if anyone was curious | 06:29 |
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RAOF | Heh, I like that "bug" in Xorg 7.2 | 06:42 |
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thully | hi - does anyone have a clue regarding what's wrong with/how to fix the fonts on Gutsy | 06:46 |
thully | I installed Tribe 1 on my MacBook, and they are HUGE | 06:46 |
RAOF | thully: Check that your DPI is set to something sane in System->Preferences->Fonts | 06:46 |
thully | that might be it - though a Feisty install on the same system has normal fonts | 06:48 |
thully | will reboot into Gutsy and try... | 06:48 |
thully | I figured it was the DPI, but I didn't remember where the setting was | 06:49 |
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RAOF | Note to self: Upgrading glib while building compiz may result in a miscompiled compiz :) | 08:25 |
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Hobbsee | RAOF: no pbuilder? | 08:35 |
RAOF | Hobbsee: Local development. | 08:36 |
RAOF | Not building packages, building git. | 08:36 |
Hobbsee | ahh | 08:37 |
coNP | How do I open Corel Draw .cdr files? | 08:37 |
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RAOF | (And sticking it into ~/Compiz, to not mess with the system) | 08:37 |
rollerskatejamms | I really like the way fonts look in gutsy | 08:37 |
rollerskatejamms | what was changed? | 08:37 |
RAOF | gnome-settings-daemon uses Xorg's DPI for fonts, I believe. | 08:37 |
RAOF | And a _lot_ of people mention it :) | 08:38 |
rollerskatejamms | Hmm . . . but isn't that what causes that bug in Xubuntu? | 08:38 |
rollerskatejamms | the font shrinking bug | 08:38 |
rollerskatejamms | yup, fonts look bigger now all of the sudden | 08:38 |
rollerskatejamms | grr | 08:38 |
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RAOF | Man, it's *not* obvious how to merge a local tree in git. | 08:45 |
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crimsun | pull from the originator into the target | 08:46 |
RAOF | Yeah, I found that. | 08:47 |
RAOF | However, one might naievly suspect that "git merge" was the command I was after. | 08:47 |
RAOF | Too much bzr for the RAOF! | 08:48 |
DanaG | I already liked fonts in Feisty, once I set DPI and Full RGB subpixel hinting. | 08:53 |
DanaG | Is anything different in Gutsy? | 08:53 |
DanaG | Oh yeah, G-P-M needs to ignore the profile until it's made a profile -- otherwise you get things like 50%, 5 minutes. | 08:53 |
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DanaG | And I need to file the "Screeen blinks, or turns OFF, when switching to battery" bug. | 08:53 |
crimsun | FWIW I find git more intuitive than bzr | 08:53 |
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RAOF | Eh, maybe I've just used bzr more. | 08:54 |
crimsun | RAOF: yes, the false intuition often occurs | 08:55 |
crimsun | I'm not saying that git is any more sane than bzr, only that I've used git far more often and consistently that its bassackwardness "makes sense" | 08:55 |
RAOF | :) | 08:56 |
RAOF | Bah, this debian iso is not going to get downloaded before I run out of quota. | 08:57 |
Hobbsee | out of quota already??? | 08:57 |
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RAOF | Bah! Maybe I should remap that deskbar keybinding :) | 08:58 |
crimsun | now that's interesting, I think I just hit a gnome-terminal bug | 08:58 |
RAOF | Cool! | 08:59 |
crimsun | it thinks "chris@dhcp046153.wireless.unsw" is a valid URL, but the trailing .EDU.AU isn't part of it | 08:59 |
RAOF | Hm. Odd. | 08:59 |
RAOF | Man, I just want my home internet back. | 09:01 |
RAOF | 2c/MB is too much. | 09:02 |
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Jordan_U | :( | 09:04 |
Jordan_U | I was hoping that the smaller font / title bar sizes were going to stay, recent update just made them bigger than the default. | 09:05 |
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chowmeined | will gutsy come with the new open source java vm and libraries? | 11:53 |
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DanaG | Drag-and-drop shows a preview of the text you're moving/copying. | 01:39 |
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DanaG | Hmm, I oughtta try the -mobile things under a VM some time. | 02:35 |
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DanaG | ****, where can I find the deb of beryl-plugins 0.1.99999.2~1, or whatever it was? | 02:51 |
DanaG | Everything later than that breaks magic-lamp and sidekick. | 02:51 |
DanaG | aah, http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/pool/feisty/main/0.1.9999.2/ | 02:54 |
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Hobbsee | twitch | 03:02 |
Hobbsee | DanaG: be careful they dont break your X | 03:02 |
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svschwart1 | hello everybody I've got problem with KVM on Gusty Tribe1 | 04:13 |
svschwart1 | used howto from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM | 04:13 |
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svschwart1 | created image, but vm doesn't start | 04:13 |
svschwart1 | user@amd1-desktop:~$ kvm -no-acpi -m 384 -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d windows.img | 04:13 |
svschwart1 | kvm_create_vm: Invalid argument | 04:13 |
svschwart1 | Could not create KVM context | 04:13 |
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svschwart1 | anybody )) | 04:23 |
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svschwart1 | bug already in launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kvm/+bug/119254 | 04:30 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 119254 in kvm "Fails to create KVM context on linux-image-2.6.22-6" [Undecided,In progress] | 04:30 |
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DanaG | Oh, I only installed the old beryl-plugins. | 04:31 |
DanaG | Everything else is the newest. | 04:31 |
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DanaG | Odd: two-finger scrolling works, but it doesn't always start reliably. | 05:05 |
DanaG | Sometimes my mouse will move, and other times it will scroll. | 05:06 |
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Hobbsee | DanaG: are you interested in helping with some bug triage? | 05:12 |
DanaG | I think I may look into things after Friday -- my last final of this quarter. | 05:14 |
DanaG | Aah, looks like it has to do with how long you have one finger down before the other touches. | 05:15 |
DanaG | try synclient -m 100 (100 ms, I think). | 05:15 |
Hobbsee | there's people therea nd talking now | 05:17 |
Hobbsee | and you dont appera to be doing finals now anyway :P | 05:17 |
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DanaG | Or maybe not... I get some 0->2 right away, without scrolling. | 05:17 |
DanaG | Maybe it's a combination of Z and number of fingers. | 05:18 |
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DanaG | ooooh: http://lanpartei.de/~stefan/ | 05:23 |
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DanaG | Hmm, looks like that patch is already there. I can hold one finger and move the other, but only sometimes will it scroll. | 05:30 |
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DanaG | I think I will file a bug on that. | 05:41 |
DanaG | Odd, ksynaptics shows two-finger scrolling, but has it disabled. | 05:44 |
Hobbsee | DanaG: please file it in debian, if your'e filing on ksynaptics | 05:50 |
DanaG | I had a few wishlists I'd like to group together: evdev by default, synaptics as corepointer by default, with SHMConfig on. | 05:51 |
DanaG | Oh, and install gsynaptics if a laptop is detected. | 05:51 |
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Hobbsee | please tell me you're not going to file one bug requesting all of that... | 05:52 |
Hobbsee | ksynaptics is talked about as being default, anyway | 05:52 |
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DanaG | What about for Gnome? | 05:54 |
DanaG | Oh yeah, that would be two bugs: One for touchpad (synaptics driver, shmconfig, corepointer, GUI (link to existing discussion), one for using evdev if a many-button mouse is detected. | 05:55 |
Hobbsee | oh good | 05:55 |
Hobbsee | i dont know about gnome, i dont use it. | 05:55 |
DanaG | Argh. kcontrol screwed with my sensitivity, perhaps. | 05:56 |
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shirish | guys anybody getting this error after today's updates Use of uninitialized value in string ne at /usr/sbin/update-alternatives line 602. | 05:59 |
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Hobbsee | uh, that's been there for days, iirc | 06:00 |
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shirish | Hobbsee: ah ok, I just was hit with it after today's updates | 06:03 |
shirish | Hobbsee: has somebody put it in either the gusty forum or reported it somewhere as I would like to subscribe the thread and/or bug | 06:04 |
Hobbsee | i dunno. that's what a search is for. | 06:05 |
Hobbsee | even if i did know, i woudlnt be able to give you the link off teh top of my head, so you'd still ahve to search | 06:05 |
shirish | ah ok, the most difficult thing to do "Search" | 06:06 |
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shirish | Hobbsee: lol, I had reported it in ubuntuforums about 4 days back, then it somehow was straightened out, now it has come back again. | 06:08 |
shirish | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2810922 | 06:08 |
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Hobbsee | :) | 06:10 |
DanaG | aah, bashism? | 06:10 |
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shirish | DanaG: what's bashism? | 06:11 |
DanaG | -ne -- apparently means "not equal". | 06:12 |
DanaG | I don't really know bash syntax, however. | 06:12 |
Hobbsee | check with man | 06:13 |
Hobbsee | but it sounds about right, yes | 06:13 |
DanaG | Cool, now I touch my touchpad with two fingers and move them to my left, and the cube spins to the left. | 06:16 |
shirish | Hobbsee: DanaG: can you guys tell us if something can be worked out in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=472705 | 06:17 |
shirish | its an annoyance, but a proper way to do stuff would be good. | 06:17 |
Hobbsee | meh. fonts stuff keeps changing | 06:18 |
Hobbsee | the proper way to do that is DisplaySize in xorg.conf, last time i asked. | 06:18 |
DanaG | Or set dpi in font preferences. | 06:19 |
DanaG | My screen (1440x900, 17") looks notably better at 99 DPI than at 100. | 06:19 |
Hobbsee | my font DPI hasnt changed | 06:20 |
Hobbsee | but i use KDE, so... | 06:20 |
DanaG | That's a bug: kcontrol only offers 96 and 120 or 72 (I don't remember which). | 06:22 |
Hobbsee | true that | 06:22 |
Hobbsee | kcontrol is broken atm, iirc. | 06:22 |
DanaG | I think it has been fixed. | 06:24 |
DanaG | I still use "old" kcontrol, rather than system-settings. | 06:24 |
Hobbsee | both seem broken. it might be my old install, though | 06:24 |
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DanaG | I wonder.... if I run a DirectSound3D game under Wine with ALChemy, will it work with OpenAL on the host? | 06:28 |
Hobbsee | try it? | 06:28 |
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shirish | DanaG: how do I set dpi in font preferences? | 06:30 |
DanaG | "Details..." | 06:30 |
shirish | DanaG: this DPI is for all the fonts ? | 06:31 |
DanaG | Yeah, any GTK app. | 06:31 |
shirish | ok it shows here as 108 DPI with radio buttons on grayscale & subpixel order | 06:32 |
shirish | my monitor is a 17" analog CRT monitor | 06:32 |
DanaG | Try all the options to see what's good. | 06:32 |
DanaG | Oh, and if the DPI is not correct, measure your screen in millimeters and enter the size into xorg.conf. | 06:33 |
shirish | ok something did change , for the better | 06:34 |
shirish | thanx | 06:34 |
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ToHellWithGA | do yall know if compiz and beryl will be merged by the release date? | 06:49 |
ToHellWithGA | the differences seem to be getting smaller and smaller, with the exception of the overly-complicated setup for beryl and simple (but somewhat limited) setup for compiz | 06:49 |
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ToHellWithGA | bug 120277 | 07:18 |
ToHellWithGA | bug 120227 | 07:18 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 120227 in linux-source-2.6.22 "rt2500-based network card not assigned network interface" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120227 | 07:18 |
ToHellWithGA | could yall confirm that i wrote that report properly? | 07:18 |
ToHellWithGA | thanks | 07:19 |
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soc | hi | 08:19 |
soc | is there a way to speed up "sudo pbuilder create" | 08:19 |
soc | since an ubuntu update broke checkinstall i#m trying to set up pbuilder, but it looks like that this command downloads packages from the server which are already available on my computer | 08:20 |
soc | seems to be quite unnecessary | 08:20 |
soc | someone there? | 08:20 |
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soc | sorry, lost connection | 08:30 |
soc | was someone able to answer my question in the time i went offline? :-) | 08:30 |
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soc | pbuilder takes ages .. | 08:33 |
soc | is there something between checkinstall (which is not well liked by developers) and pbuilder (which seems to be inefficient for casual users)? | 08:34 |
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DanaG | Great, 90% of my packages just decided they are new. | 08:41 |
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DanaG | I can't figure out how to get OpenAL for Wine, or even accelerated OpenAL for native apps. | 08:44 |
pwnguin | xerosis: congratulations | 08:52 |
pwnguin | x-spec-ting: congratutaions | 08:52 |
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xerosis | pwnguin: ? | 08:52 |
pwnguin | xerosis: autocomplete picked you and i didnt notice =/ | 08:53 |
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xerosis | pwnguin: heh, np | 08:53 |
pwnguin | I've been trying out the nv drivers after it became clear that the nvidia drivers were not sleep state friendly | 08:54 |
pwnguin | is there a "right way" to push the resolution above 1280x1024? | 08:54 |
pwnguin | because i have it running at 1440x900 right now and all the fonts look way too small | 08:54 |
pwnguin | im not sure if it's gutsy or just nv | 08:55 |
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pwnguin | also, it seems there's a bug in the dist-upgrader | 08:59 |
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DanaG | (snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'defaults.namehint.extended' | 09:27 |
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DanaG | ALSA lib pcm.c:2144:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM hw:0 | 09:28 |
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soc | hi | 11:38 |
soc | does someone know when fglrx will be updates to support xserver 1.3? | 11:38 |
crimsun | sometime. perhaps real soon now. | 11:41 |
soc | :-) | 11:42 |
soc | hi crimsun ... | 11:42 |
soc | i hop it ... | 11:42 |
soc | having to block 16 packages isn't quite nice ... | 11:43 |
soc | how do you now? | 11:43 |
soc | crimsun: how do you now? | 11:44 |
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crimsun | did you mean "know"? | 11:46 |
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soc | yes | 11:56 |
soc | sorry ... | 11:56 |
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ico2 | What can I do about these errors? "Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Sources Bad header line" I get a lot of them, I think only for gb.archive.ubuntu.com any idea why? | 12:03 |
pwnguin | are the gusty repos for those open yet? | 12:08 |
gnomefreak | ico2: hold on a sec | 12:08 |
gnomefreak | ico2: im using gd also and i didnt see that error before. im chekcing now | 12:08 |
gnomefreak | ico2: its not the repos | 12:11 |
ico2 | hmmmm | 12:11 |
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gnomefreak | update went fine. are you installing packages at the time you get that error? | 12:12 |
ico2 | probably just my dialup connection being too slow and its timing out or something | 12:12 |
gnomefreak | or just apt-get update | 12:12 |
ico2 | no | 12:12 |
ico2 | that was apt-get update | 12:12 |
gnomefreak | mine was fine | 12:12 |
gnomefreak | Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/restricted Sources | 12:13 |
gnomefreak | Fetched 6796kB in 3m35s (31.5kB/s) | 12:13 |
gnomefreak | those are the last few line | 12:13 |
gnomefreak | Reading package lists... Done | 12:13 |
ico2 | :( | 12:13 |
gnomefreak | gnomefreak@GutsyGibbon:~$ | 12:13 |
ico2 | yeah | 12:13 |
ico2 | oh well | 12:13 |
gnomefreak | sictry using uk instead of gb for it instead | 12:13 |
ico2 | thanks anyway :s | 12:13 |
gnomefreak | ico2: try ^^ | 12:13 |
gnomefreak | that will tell you if its the mirror you are using | 12:14 |
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