=== cypher1 [n=cypher1@c-68-83-184-230.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@cust0920.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-219-120.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CarlF1 [n=carl@adsl-75-52-192-98.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem [n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-38-163.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === macd foo === ScottK-laptop bar === persia baz === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === concept10 [n=concept1@ppp-70-254-92-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === radhios [n=radhios@200-122-45-242.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apacheLAGger [n=me@N942P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === smm83 [n=shane@12-216-188-54.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nuu [i=neuro@host151-149-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] crimsun: Does bug 74906 still need sponsorship? [02:43] Launchpad bug 74906 in psycopg "python-psycopg: Missing dependencies? (libc6, libpq4)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74906 === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:44] no === persia unsubscribes [02:45] it may or may not need ubuntu-sru subscribed [02:45] our policy does not make it explicit, unfortunately [02:45] crimsun: What do you think is the right way to handle it? [02:46] I think subscribing ubuntu-sru is appropriate, but I want it formalized before I apply it [02:46] crimsun: Is there a proposal under consideration? [02:46] not AFAIK [02:47] crimsun: Do you have time to write one up for Friday? If not, please dump your basic thoughts somewhere, and I'll formalise it. [02:47] I can try, but I can't promise. I'm travelling through July 5, and then I'll be away beginning July 9. [02:48] crimsun: Ah. In that case, if you find a couple free minutes in the next couple days, please drop me a short email describing the scope, and I'll put something together. === SlimG [n=slimg@84.205.58.245] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:50] my goodness, I really need to rename this cruft [02:50] too much *parser and *ui confusion [02:51] Lintian gives me this warning: can't find numbered character 248, 248 is the character "", so what's the problem? the number is correct too afaik [02:52] Its a norwegian latin1 encoded manpage === persia thinks UTF-8 is ñ, which is preferable to latin1 [02:57] persia: how do I insert the 241 char instead of the 248 char? === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@stwgw.stw.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] SlimG: My solution is usually to edit in a UTF-8 environment and either use a keymap that can type the character I want or something like the GNOME character picker applet. [03:01] would it work if I created the manpage in utf8 and use a utf8-2-latin1 tool (if I can find one)? === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:02] SlimG: Why do you need a latin1 manpage? [03:03] manpages within /usr/share/man/no is forced to be read as latin1 [03:04] SlimG: In that case, you probably don't want UTF8 (what happened to UTF8ByDefault?), and 241 may not be correct. [03:06] SlimG: Separately, use iconv to convert between encodings. [03:08] according to http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/iso8859-1.html the "" character is number 248, I don't really understand why lintian complains about it beeing unable to find the numbered character 248 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:10] I'll google around to see if there's others with the same issue === cypher1 [n=cypher1@c-68-83-184-230.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:21] persia: Might it have something to do with me using nn_NO.UTF-8 locale when running lintian? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:26] SlimG: Um. Probably. I'm not sure why the default nn_NO locale is UTF8, and there is the restriction that "manpages within /usr/share/man/no is forced to be read as latin1". This seems like a policy bug to me. [03:28] I'm pretty sure the main problem is the outdated "forced latin1 for norwegian manpages" [03:28] SlimG: Where is that policy stated? [03:28] mandb I think someone mentioned === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] I believe I've found the problem that triggers Lintians warning, Lintian get's confused if the manpage encoding and locale encoding isn't the same [03:31] SlimG: Ah. That's probably the bug then. As far as I can tell, manpages are transcoded to current locale when viewed (or at least by man: other tools may be buggy) [03:32] So in theory, if I were to run the Lintian check on this manpage at a computer with latin1 locale it would probably not mention any warning === btm_ [n=btm@gir.seattlewireless.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] Is there a deb compatible version of ar kicking around out there? [03:33] btm_: it's not in ubuntu/debian. possibly [03:33] persia: thanks for your help, I really aprechiate it [03:34] SlimG: Thanks for tracking down the source issue. Please file a bug against lintian about this. === tmr0 [n=tmr0@71-208-49-26.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tmr0 [n=tmr0@71-208-49-26.hlrn.qwest.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [03:35] Hobbsee: It's my understanding that the bsd versions don't generate the filename/ that the included gnu version does, but oddly enough I don't see a bsd compatible binary on debian/ubuntu. [03:36] btm_: Take a look at binutils [03:37] Hobbsee: We need ar - it's the basis of .deb :) [03:37] persia: I'll see if I can find the lintian bug-tracker and file a bug [03:38] oh, right [03:38] SlimG: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lintian/ is a good place to start, and sending something to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=lintian might also be appropriate (but search those bugs first). [03:39] persia: Yes, binutils has ar, but it's GNU ar which is not 100% deb compatible. [03:39] btm_: Ah. Last time I actually used ar was a few years ago, and it was enough to address my severely broken bootstrap issues then, but I believe you if you say that it's not 100% compatible. [03:40] persia: if you head -2 a deb, you'll see that debian-binary does not have a slash after it. but if you 'ar r test.r somerandomfile ; head -2 test.ar' you'll see that somerandomfile has a slash after it. [03:40] persia: lintian has no open bugs in launchpad... not bad :) [03:40] which makes apt-extracttemplates and others unhappy. [03:41] I don't think Linda does, either. [03:42] Actually, it does. [03:42] And I think it's fixed in the version I should really get around to uploading. [03:43] btm_: Hmm.. That's probably a bug then. Given that we ship GNU ar by default, we probably want GNU ar style .debs, but it's the sort of bug is exremely unlikely to be fixed in Ubuntu - it needs a Debian solution, if any. [03:47] persia: I'll ask around debian, thanks. === azeem [n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-38-163.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === radhios [n=radhios@200-122-52-175.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem [n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-38-163.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:01] RAOF: thank you for your ubuntuforums response, but i would also like to know if there any motu effort to get precompiled kqemu kernel modules underway? === persia notes that the kernel is in main === Hobbsee taps fingers and notes that she's lost her excuse for ignoring everything in main now... [04:03] haha [04:03] hiya spam [04:03] Hobbsee: I suggest it's still safe to ignore the kernel for a little while yet :) [04:03] oh good [04:03] You could *possibly* file a wishlist bug against linux-ubuntu-modules, asking for the kqemu module to be added, but I really don't know what the response would be [04:03] then again, i touched casper a week ago... [04:03] heh [04:04] hmmm, because of lack of interest? [04:05] aanderse: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelPatches should give you some understanding of the response [04:05] thanks, i'll read up on that [04:08] Hobbsee: that's fine, i'll just hassle you to do stuff in main [04:08] ajmitch: about gnue-? [04:09] persia: no [04:09] ajmitch: OK. I'll take your name off the assignment list on the migration page then. Thanks. [04:10] whatever [04:11] ajmitch: hah. dream on. you have your own powers === Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.221.116] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:11] Hobbsee: nah, i feel like just removing myself [04:12] ajmitch: not allowed. [04:12] ajmitch: unless you'll contribute more to debian and ubuntu as a result [04:12] is allowed, actually === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pumpernickel [n=pumperni@CPE0016b6c9fba4-CM0012c9a9a6dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:31] Hm, I see that Canonical is advertising bzr through AdWords. [04:31] funny [04:31] ? [04:33] really? === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aanderse [n=aaron@CPE0015e916db19-CM001225d7436c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aanderse [n=aaron@CPE0015e916db19-CM001225d7436c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aanderse [n=aaron@CPE0015e916db19-CM001225d7436c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === krazeivan [n=krazeiva@adsl-68-253-228-139.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@153.144.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] good day MOTUs! :D [04:47] hiya zakame [04:47] hello Hobbsee [04:48] Hi zakame [04:48] heya persia [04:49] zakame: did you fall off the planet? [04:49] zakame: How active is ~motujava? [04:49] persia: not really active, sadly, but man-di just joined, and I made it an open team now [04:49] Hobbsee: er? [04:50] zakame: just hadnt seen you around much, prior to yesterday [04:51] Hobbsee: true, I was a bit sick last week, and been dabbling on other stuffs the previous [04:51] zakame: Ah. I'm just looking at the team wiki page, and noticed a request for help. I'd like to recommend https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/CreatingTeamGuide as a good source of team building information. [04:51] ahh. [04:52] persia: coolness! thanks for that! [04:53] zakame: That itself is a work-in-progress, so if you find anything new, please also add it there. [04:53] so is life, work-in-progress :D [04:53] :) [04:55] hello all [04:55] hi jussi01 [04:55] persia: could you take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25370/ [04:55] motujava ?? that sounds good .. [04:56] leonel: It is good. Warm and rich. Sign up now, get it on the ground floor, and great things will happen :) [04:56] persia: where is the motujava party ? [04:56] persia: Im not a very good email writer... [04:57] leonel: Ask the team leader: zakame [04:57] found it ! [04:57] motu java growers ? [04:57] yep [04:58] what about ubuntu-java ? [04:58] still reforming it though [04:58] is that another ? [05:00] jussi01: In general, nice work. There's a couple spelling issues, and I recommend avoiding things like "you need to {foo}" in favour of things like the policy for Ubuntu prevents my packaging because {foo} has not been done. [05:01] persia: ok. would you mind making a few changes to the paste? (do you have time?) [05:01] jussi01: Sure. Do you want 1) comments, 2) minor edits, or 3) a rewrite? [05:01] zakame: what's to be done with motujava ? [05:02] leonel: at the moment, merging java packages === persia would like to see a clearer guide on packaging java packages as well, if anyone has time === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:03] persia: Okay. "Don't" [05:04] :-P [05:04] zakame: ok let's learn to merge I have dbmail pending to merge but I'm stuck with some dapper's clamav bugs [05:04] persia: well any of the above is good, though a rewrite would be nice.... I'm just not a very good email composer... [05:04] StevenK: Why not? Upstream usually works with a direct download, but it's messy, and doesn't generaly work for all system users. [05:05] persia: I'm just bitter because I dislike Java. :-) [05:05] jussi01: Sure - that will take a little longer. Please review it carefully, as my style is surely different than yours. [05:05] leonel: did you look at http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html and grab-merge.sh'd the package? [05:06] zakame: yes [05:06] StevenK: From what I understand, java packages should be safe to ignore for everyone else, so you can be safe. [05:06] persia: sure, I will. Im on holidays so I have a fair bit of time, but I am AFK for periods so if i dont answer you know why. [05:06] zakame: but Let me finish first with clamav bugs I have pending to start merging dbmail and java packages [05:07] leonel: ah, cool [05:07] jussi01: No worries. Are you around for a while now? "a little longer" in this case is probably <15 minutes. [05:07] waah I'm out of HD space [05:08] persia: Im going to grab some lunch, but yes, i will be around for the next hour or so. [05:08] zakame: I really feel a little bad because It's been 1 week long to sort out the clamav bugs in dapper [05:08] leonel: why? what's been bugging clamav? [05:09] update [05:09] so it's not possible to snag a package from the NEW queue? [05:09] zakame: apt-get autoclean [05:09] jmg: yeah, doing that now [05:10] :) [05:13] zakame: 3 cve which 2 have the fix in the 90.x version of clamav and need to patch for the 88.2 in dapper and the 90.x has changed some things and I need to figure out what's for those CVEs [05:14] waah, that's quite a lot [05:14] leonel: why cant you use the 90.x in dapper? [05:15] jmg: I do but can't be uploaded to dapper-security and not everyone has backports enabled and there are some packages that would break with 0.90.3 [05:16] leonel: that sucks [05:16] and it's an important package to keep updated with the latest version [05:17] and theres a message from freshclam that says that the clamav package is outdated even if it's patched and that gives some confusion to endusers [05:18] yeah [05:21] well got to go [05:22] for now ... [05:22] apt-get remove leonel [05:22] good night ! [05:22] jussi01: I'd probably send something like http://pastebin.ca/563393, but that itself would benefit from a spell check, and definitely needs real URLs :) [05:23] jussi01: rather http://pastebin.ca/563395: "confirm" is not an ideal word there. === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:26] Does Gutsy sync _every_ package from Debian unstable, or would it be wise to request a specific one? [05:26] persia: second url doesnt work. but the firs one looks quite nice :D [05:26] tonyyarusso: everything that's not blacklisted, or has ubuntu changes [05:26] jussi01: It's your IRC client. Drop the ":" [05:26] Hobbsee: blacklisted? [05:27] (specifically shell-fm, just found it) [05:27] persia: hehe... didnt see that [05:27] tonyyarusso: There's a list of package which are never going to be sync'd. Such as the d-i kernels and so on [05:27] packages, even [05:28] ah [05:28] tonyyarusso: Also, Ubuntu only auto-syncs new packages from Debian main. If you need something new from contrib or non-free, that's a manual request. [05:30] Hobbsee, persia: Those two statements seem to be in conflict with each other. [05:30] tonyyarusso: everything in debian main that's not blacklisted or has ubuntu changes [05:30] and providing that it's not past DebianImportFreeze [05:31] tonyyarusso: OK. Ubuntu syncs everything from Debian main, unless there it has been blacklisted or has Ubuntu changes, and anything already in Ubuntu from contrib and non-free unless there are Ubuntu changes. [05:31] sorry, everything in debian main [05:31] Plus what ajmitch said [05:31] okay, then I likely need to make a request for this. [05:31] tonyyarusso: new packages in debian still get checked to a degree before being imported into ubuntu === macd [n=d@cl-116.atl-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:31] tonyyarusso: why? [05:31] shell-fm | 0.2+svn20070605.r215-1 | http://apt-proxy gutsy/universe Sources [05:31] shell-fm | 0.2+svn20070605.r215-1 | http://apt-proxy sid/main Sources [05:32] Twitch. apt-proxy === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp167-203.lns4.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:33] persia: what is the exactloaction for the dfsg? [05:33] It's linked off http://www.debian.org/devel/ [05:33] ajmitch: never mind then :) Hadn't actually gotten to the checking gutsy step, but was assuming until proven wrong that it hadn't found its way there yet. [05:33] cool [05:33] tonyyarusso: Generally, new packages are only in the current development release. Once should check there first. [05:34] persia =~ s/\(On\)ce/\1e/ [05:34] persia: Well yeah, was getting there - was a passing thought so far ;) === javier_galicia [n=Javier@189.130.231.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] persia: once-overed. http://pastebin.ca/563406 [05:34] StevenK: s/ce/e/ is cleaner for that string :) [05:35] persia: Meh. :-) [05:36] jussi01: http://www.debian.org/social_contract [05:36] jussi01: See crimsun's updates - it's even better :) [05:36] jussi01: (For the DFSG) [05:38] alright thank you all. Ill put it together and you can comment then :D === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp91-76-74-66.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu === man-di_ [n=mkoch@dyndsl-080-228-192-149.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:47] persia: http://pastebin.ca/563425 === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:59] jussi01: Good links :) My only two thoughts for changes would be 1) Consider "I would like to solicit" rather than "I am soliciting" in the first paragraph, and 2) prefixing the second paragraph with "Also, ", "In addition, ", or "Separately, ". I think these are edits to my text rather than yours :) === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp91-76-74-66.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:02] persia: http://pastebin.ca/563443 === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-70-78.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:05] jussi01: Looks fine to me. Does it still match what you wanted to send, and are you set to follow up on responses? === javier_galicia [n=Javier@189.130.231.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp91-76-74-66.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:07] persia: it says exactly what i wanted, in words I couldnt have put together :D thanks! When I get a response, If I cant deal with it Ill know where to come ;) [06:07] jussi01: Great. Good luck. === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp167-203.lns4.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:15] ok, lets see everyones investigative skills... someone find me the authors email address... http://genpo.sourceforge.net/ I cant find it anywhere.... [06:16] nm... found it on the ml... finally [06:16] jussi01: It's always right after you give up :) [06:17] lol, yeah [06:17] although it doesnt give me the whole address grrr... [06:17] merronys at users.sourceforge.net [06:17] StevenK: thank you... :D [06:26] SENT!! :D === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bryce_ [n=bryce@71.237.200.28] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-105-6.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:29] anyone working on azureus merge? === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44280.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:31] zakame: There be dragons with that merge. Commonly called users. === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:32] StevenK: wahehehe [07:32] yo jsgotangco [07:32] checking LP bugs now, 16 uncon [07:32] yes, azurues is evil [07:32] I fight with it in debian [07:33] zakame: I feel your pain [07:33] wah, there's even a new-version wishlist [07:33] zakame: the debian maintainer of it is on vacation... [07:34] oh, shaun jackman [07:34] I remember him, I adopted robotour from him (now it has a couple of RCs related to 64-bit machines) [07:35] can't seem to squash it though === Admiral_Chicago_ [n=freddy@adsl-68-255-111-125.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:36] man-di: If you have a bit of time, could you please take a look at the build logs for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/3.2.2-1 === Sindwiller [n=sindwill@84-75-101-114.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU [07:42] did anybody get azureus working with GCC java? [07:43] I only heard sad stories, and all the conclusions seem to be "use Sun java and everything will be fine" [07:43] persia: yes, I'm already on that one [07:43] man-di: Great. Thanks. [07:44] hmmm [07:51] minghua, there is a package that is azureus-gij i believe [07:52] that uses GCC java [07:52] or azureus-gcj === Pumpernickle [n=pumperni@CPE0016b6c9fba4-CM0012c9a9a6dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@adsl-69-209-76-160.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:59] superm1: Thanks. I still don't quite understand though (but that's okay, I don't want to become a java packaging expert), as azureus-gcj's package description says "This package contains the natively compiled code for use by gij." [07:59] minghua, my understanding is gij byte compiles the java code [07:59] so its supposed to be a little faster [07:59] than purely interpreted java code [07:59] gcj can compile bytecode to native === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:00] minghua: if you have questions, ask me === man-di is debian java maintainer [08:01] man-di, so it really is a lot faster when gcj handles the compilation? [08:01] rather than using sun java to interpret it? [08:01] I see. So besides "using Sun java" and "using GCC java", there is a third option of "using native compiled version"? === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:02] man-di: Oh, glad to see you here. Not many MOTUs dare to touch azureus in Ubuntu, it seems. === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:03] minghua: same for DDs [08:03] minghua: I fight with debian maintainer of azurues for a long time to make it correct === chris__ [n=chris@dhcp046153.wireless.unsw.EDU.AU] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeABrick_ [n=Ryan@adsl-76-223-100-182.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] superm1: its not faster then SUN, its faster then interpreted with gcj === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C1A48C.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] superm1: the interpreter of gcj is *really* slow [08:05] superm1: we compile to native to get acceptable speed with a runtime that is in main [08:05] superm1: so far SUN JDK is not free [08:05] man-di, but then is there still an option to run with sun though? [08:06] or is that forfeited by doing this [08:06] superm1: sure [08:06] you can use whatever runtime you prefer [08:06] superm1: the native gcj libs are just additional [08:06] ah i've wondered how that worked with it [08:07] and only used when gcj is used as runtime [08:07] that's pretty neat then [08:07] and kaffe has some code that could use them hypothetically [08:07] superm1: think of it as native jars [08:08] I need to leave now, cu later [08:08] ok. thanks a lot man-di you really helped clear that up :) [08:11] man-di: so even if the azureus package is built with GCC java, the bytecode version can run on all VMs, either Sun java or e.g. kaffe? === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-88-47.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-88-47.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Admiral_Chicago_ [n=freddy@adsl-68-255-109-184.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Admiral_1hicago [n=FreddyM@adsl-68-255-109-184.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.41] has joined #ubuntu-motu === paran [n=paran@cust.fiber-lan.snet.lk.212.214.112.112.visit.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Admiral_1hicago [n=FreddyM@adsl-68-255-110-41.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F706F1.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:53] good morning [08:53] good morning [08:53] hey gnomefreak [08:53] Good afternoon dholbach, gnomefreak [08:53] hey RAOF [08:53] hi RAOF [08:55] good day folks [08:55] hi zakame === persia remarks that "In Progress" bugs that are currently being sponsored probably shouldn't still be subscribed to U-U-S :) === chris__ [n=chris@dhcp046153.wireless.unsw.EDU.AU] has joined #ubuntu-motu === svschwartz [n=svschwar@217.147.21.82] has joined #ubuntu-motu === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F770C4.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:23] minghua: yes, it does [09:23] minghua: thats the cool thing about java bytecode being arch independant [09:24] minghua: and in fact GCJ was designed to be interoperable with SUN Java === nuu [n=nuu@85-18-14-28.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:25] man-di: thanks for the explanation [09:26] minghua: no problem, I help you and you help me some day === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-122-102.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aplg [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh_away is now known as \sh === morty [n=morty@88-105-96-62.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-85-27-113-187.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:59] Is matti lindell around? === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:59] no, he's not. [10:01] crimsun: Thanks (I guess) [10:03] lol [10:07] well, I can't magically make him appear [10:07] crimsun: did you lost your magical powers? damn [10:07] crimsun: Even for a pony? [10:07] never had them. You need to see Hobbsee for that. === Hobbsee looks in [10:07] hello Hobbsee [10:07] hiya [10:07] Yay! Recent builds of gnash! === Tonio_ [n=tonio@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:14] well, now that we have GSt 0.10.13, this crossfading in RB should be interestin.g [10:16] gnashing of streams [10:17] crimsun: s/interesting/works with wavpack files/? [10:18] I refer of course to bug #119044 [10:18] Launchpad bug 119044 in rhythmbox "Crossfading engine never starts playing wavpack files" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119044 [10:19] it's not limited to wavpack IME [10:19] wavpack was the only codec I tried that didn't work. [10:20] doesn't work at all on my files [10:20] I don't think I have a wma encoder to duplicate the original upstream bug. [10:20] I do get a nice xkill or pkill exercise, however. [10:20] Really? It actually *hangs* RB for you? [10:20] yes, massively. [10:20] Isn't software wonderful. === RAOF tries it with ALSA rather than Pulse [10:22] Well, it doesn't work, but it doesn't hang. Huzzah for system differences. [10:22] hangs with pulse removed from the equation, too === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF hums the tune from the twilight zone === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkibras1-ff55c300-121.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === macd [n=d@adsl-157-21-112.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:06] wow - we have LOADS of bugs marked as 'upgrade' [11:06] most of them should be easy to fix === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@wall2.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gizmo [n=gizmo@87.139.112.143] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-85-27-113-187.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has left #ubuntu-motu ["adieu..."] === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === porthose [n=chatzill@72.24.69.50] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@115.Red-88-27-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:15] bluekuja: ping [12:15] man-di, pong [12:15] :) [12:15] bluekuja: why did you reintroduced https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcommons-dbcp-java/+bug/81876 ? [12:15] Launchpad bug 81876 in libcommons-dbcp-java "Dependency on java2-runtime removed" [Undecided,Confirmed] [12:15] bluekuja: a sync of the package would have been enough to get everything fixed === \sh is preparing some debian/ubuntu packages for opensuses buildservice software...cool thing [12:16] bluekuja: that was why I uploaded -5 to Debian at all [12:16] man-di, it seems it wasnt removed in previous version [12:16] and nothing was marked in changelog [12:16] didnt see that bug [12:16] bluekuja: it MAY not be removed [12:17] bluekuja: it was not in changelog because it was no Debian bug [12:17] bluekuja: only Ubuntu [12:17] man-di, yeah, badly I didnt see that bug in LP [12:19] man-di, we will sync next release then === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kontactline [n=tibi@cablelink-86-127-182-187.rdstm.ro] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7 [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-6-237.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stratus [i=stratus@conference/debconf/x-a0c078e719fd651b] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:40:213:2ff:fe05:abdb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kontactline [n=tibi@cablelink-86-127-182-187.rdstm.ro] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === EtienneG [n=etienne@ubuntu/member/EtienneG] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:06] Somebody in here who'd like to review (and maybe advocate) http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5467 (Sunflow rendering system, http://sunflow.sf.net ) ? === radhios [n=radhios@200-122-45-92.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DktrKranz [n=Luca@ubuntu/member/dktrkranz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@115.Red-88-27-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:17] bluekuja: about the various scim merges; please go ahead with the merges; if you do have questions, ask on this channel, or use REVU to get feedback [01:17] doko: great, thanks :) === Fujitsu [n=william@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:27] could you please clarify me a bit about bug #119936? [01:27] Launchpad bug 119936 in aptoncd "Please fakesync aptoncd 0.1-1" [Wishlist,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119936 === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-89-136.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@c-68-83-184-230.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === porthose [n=chatzill@72.24.69.50] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] DktrKranz: persia means if it's a Fakesync, it should just be the debian package with a changelog entry saying "Fakesync", but no other changes. [01:45] this has different upstream tarball, it's unclear to me how to handle a fakesync that way [01:46] Um... That's what fakesync means, afaik. [01:46] DktrKranz: with a different tarball you mean different content, or just different md5sum? [01:46] different md5sums [01:46] IIRC [01:46] If the latter, use the ubuntu one, but use the debian/ dir. [01:47] And add a changelog entry saying it's fakesync, and that it can be synced with the next upstream release :) [01:47] it has no ubuntu changes to be kept [01:47] A sync is just a copy of the debian package with no changes at all. A fakesync is the same only we use our own orig.tar.gz (because they differ for some reason), but Debian's diff.gz. In that case we add an entry to the changelog saying that it was fakesync'ed. [01:48] so a it should be a fakesync [01:48] I'm curious to know how this can be managed during upload [01:49] as a normal debdiff? [01:49] Uploads are never actually done with debdiffs. [01:51] A fakesync (if the tarballs are identical, but with different md5sums (due to timestamps or whatever)) can be done by fetching the source of the debian package, putting our orig.tar.gz where the debian one was, add an entry to the changelog, debuild -S, upload. [01:52] and what if the two packages are not the same (md5 and content)? [01:53] DktrKranz: that's difficult to say anything general about, really. [01:53] DktrKranz: It depends on how the differ. [01:53] they* [01:54] could it be case of a merge? 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Hobbsee, Riddell, sladen, or fbond === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o imbrandon] by ChanServ === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:28] wow === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === man-di thinks icf7_ might have a problem [02:28] imbrandon? === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] my aliases are borked === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] /kb *@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] err === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o elkbuntu] by ChanServ === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] shit... he leaves too quick === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pici [n=pcmacman@unaffiliated/pici] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:30] elkbuntu: Hahah. === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-35.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+b *!*@wl-pool04-35.uni-muenster.de] by elkbuntu [02:31] \o/ [02:31] elkbuntu: congrats [02:31] elkbuntu: Thanks! [02:31] and makes things scroll so i cant copy the damn hostmask [02:31] ...and there was much rejoicing. === AndyP hugs elkbuntu === Fujitsu applauds elkbuntu [02:31] ... and Pumpernickel. === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o imbrandon] by imbrandon [02:31] not even a registered nick [02:31] thanks elk /me goes to fix his aliases [02:32] i'll hang on to the ops for a bit, he might find a new hostmask [02:32] i doubt it was intentional [02:32] but okies [02:33] probably a bitchx client on the uni computer and he's not even there [02:33] thats trying to constantly reconnect === BearPerson [i=karsten@freenode/staff/sourcemage.wizard.BearPerson] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:33] heya BearPerson [02:33] heya [02:33] BearPerson, we fixed it, thanks for coming though [02:34] i was just a tad slow, aliases wasent setup apparently [02:34] :) [02:34] anytime === imbrandon goes back to idleing === Pici [n=pcmacman@unaffiliated/pici] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:35] hey imbrandon === giskard [n=giskard@62-101-126-218.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] heya zul === polopolo [n=paul@ip5457cfa6.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === polopolo [n=paul@ip5457cfa6.direct-adsl.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@ubuntu/member/darksun88] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard [n=giskard@62-101-126-218.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:39] Hi all === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac_ [n=tuxmania@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=tuxmania@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stratus [i=stratus@conference/debconf/x-bf3be1cb52a5a9b5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === statik [n=emurphy@canonical/launchpad/statik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MehdiHassanpour [n=Mehdi@ubuntu/member/MehdiHassanpour] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crdlb_ [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === did441 [n=didier@mon75-2-81-57-110-167.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] hi, I need some help t o create a font .deb package... any guide/howto ? [03:16] MehdiHassanpour: Try to read this page: http://www.debian.org/devel/index.en.html === ivoks [n=ivoks@24-193.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:17] MehdiHassanpour: follow the packaging guide, usually works [03:18] MehdiHassanpour: the general guidelines abotu creating packages apply. for fonts, the main issue is defoma support and installing the fonts in the right directory. [03:18] Hobbsee, should I write a Makefile to copy ttf files in appropriate folder ? [03:19] i have no idea, i dont touch fonts. probably for good reason [03:19] MehdiHassanpour: are these just TTF font files and a copyright file? [03:19] Q-FUNK, yes, they are TTF files === beuno [i=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] MehdiHassanpour: ok. does the upstream archive include proper copyrights and does thelicense meet free software guidelines? [03:21] Q-FUNK, I want to create it for our company local use. [03:22] Q-FUNK, we've designed them for our local use and will not be published for public use [03:22] MehdiHassanpour: ok. if it's not for uploading to MOTU, then all you need to worry about is installng fonts in the right directory. using cdbs with the debhelper rule, you just need to fill debian/install content. [03:24] MehdiHassanpour: so, as Hobbsee said, standard packaging guidelines apply for making a good package. [03:24] Q-FUNK, ok ty. what about the defoma support ? [03:26] MehdiHassanpour: you generally want fonts to successfully register with defoma and pango. === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === polopolo [n=paul@ip5457cfa6.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === polopolo [n=paul@ip5457cfa6.direct-adsl.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === Martinp23 [n=Martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] hello all === kredit [n=h485945@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kredit [n=h485945@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === kredit [n=h485945@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kredit [n=h485945@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === beuno [i=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tmarble [n=tmarble@user-38q4et6.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ursinha [n=ursula@143.106.167.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:58] bluekuja: When requesting syncs, please list the Ubuntu changes from the current version, and indicate why they no longer apply to the new Debian version. [04:04] persia: hi there! [04:04] siretart: Good day. [04:04] persia: btw, did Hobbsee tell you that I created an account for you on tiber? [04:05] siretart: No. Was she so assigned? === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F770C4.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:05] siretart: Also, thanks. Is there a guide on using it? [04:05] persia: she said that you were interested in helping out with revu by resyncing keyring and rechecking the incoming queue [04:06] persia: ssh to 'tiber.tauware.de', read /etc/motd, and check ~ftp/incoming [04:06] siretart: Those are both things I'd certainly be willing to do - I often tell people to wait when they have that type of request. [04:07] persia: I'd suggest that you look a bit around and see what you can do there. If you need additional permissions, tell me what you need === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@88.195.85.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:08] siretart: Thanks. I can see how to resync, and I'm guessing I can just rm to clean incoming, right? [04:08] persia: right. or mv from ~ftp/incoming/rejected to ~ftp/incoming === svschwart1 [n=user@217.147.21.82] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:08] the process script is run every 5 minutes from revu1's crontab [04:08]