[12:28] <superm1_> kruuli, thats something coming in our next alpha.  I can point you to how to do it on command line though
[12:28] <superm1_> if you'd like
[12:28] <superm1_> kruuli, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/WhatNext/Feisty#head-9562662ba6464e40b7a094b8b06c778dfa7b7234
[12:28] <superm1_> scroll to the NVIDIA section
[12:31] <CDG52> does anyone know how to set up the windows media center remote with lirc?
[12:31] <CDG52> i have the OVU4003/00 transmitter
[12:31] <CDG52> that came with the remote
[12:31] <kruuli> superm1 great! ill try this right away
[12:32] <superm1_> CDG52, see the lirc howto
[12:33] <superm1_> at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty
[12:33] <CDG52> i looked at it but i couldnt find my remote
[12:33] <superm1_> it guides you through setting up a mceusb2/mceusb remote
[12:33] <superm1_> which is what the mce remotes are
[12:33] <CDG52> ah cool
[12:33] <CDG52> i didnt see it when i looked before but ill check again
[12:50] <rogue780|mythsrv> I'm gonna try to reclaim my title as usplash image maker dude
[12:50] <superm1_> haha
[12:51] <superm1_> well this new guy did make some pretty wicked mock ups
[12:55] <kruuli> awsome .. mythvideo worked great with a new pair of drivers :>
[12:55] <rogue780|mythsrv> indeed he did. I'm very impressed
[12:56] <superm1_> any ideas where he ran off to?
[12:56] <CDG52> hmm ive done everything that was said on that page but all all i get is "I couldnt laod the required kernel modules
[12:57] <kruuli> has anyone had any experience with a usb connected TV card? friend saw mythbuntu at my house today and got impressed :p hes has the PVR 350 based USB model can you make it work?
[12:57] <superm1> kruuli, the pvr-usb2?
[12:57] <OpenMedia> I've used some USB devices but none with MPEG2
[12:57] <kruuli> yeah superm1
[12:57] <OpenMedia> Got the HVR-900 analogue + DVB-T, plus a freecom DVB-T
[12:58] <kruuli> overkill OpenMedia :>
[12:58] <OpenMedia> Nah.. Can't actually use the DVB-T at the moment as they have turned the NZ tests off
[12:58] <superm1> kruuli, there is a way to get them going, but its one piece of hardware that i've not worked with
[12:59] <OpenMedia> Got one customer who wants 7-9 tuners in his box, with 3 of them running 24hrs
[12:59] <superm1> if you figure out whats involved with making it work in linux, we can add support to mythbuntu
[12:59] <OpenMedia> Get the model number as I might know someone who is using it.
[12:59] <kruuli> ok cool will do that
[01:00] <superm1> CDG52, try 'sudo depmod -a' and the remodprobing
[01:00] <superm1> OpenMedia, thats insance
[01:00] <OpenMedia> Problem with Hauppauge is they keep tweaking the chipsets. if it has MPEG-2 HW then check the ivtv mailing list or ivtvdriver.org
[01:00] <superm1> 7-9 tuners???
[01:00] <OpenMedia> Ability to record every channel at the same time.
[01:01] <kruuli> think i saw something about some driver that enabled usb tvcards .. dunno if it meant all cards ..ill try finding it right away
[01:01] <superm1> kruuli, i'm pretty sure this is the common usb2 one
[01:01] <superm1> http://www.isely.net/pvrusb2/pvrusb2.html
[01:07] <CDG52> i did that
[01:07] <CDG52> the sudo depmod -a
[01:09] <superm1> check /etc/lirc/lirc-modules-source.conf make sure that your module is listed there
[01:09] <superm1> accidently hitting escape in the wrong place can cause it to not showup
[01:10] <CDG52> i dont understand
[01:10] <CDG52> no matter what i do it refuses to put them there
[01:11] <superm1> you can manually do it then
[01:11] <superm1> it happens if you misaccept a dialog during that dpkg-reconfigure
[01:11] <superm1> just make LIRC_MODULES="mceusb2"
[01:11] <superm1> and then rebuild using m-a
[01:12] <CDG52> ok
[01:12] <CDG52> im trying now
[01:14] <kruuli> yeah thats the one i was talking about superm1
[01:14] <kruuli> hum .. seems kinda choppy to get that card to work
[01:14] <kruuli> if he were to buy a new one .. what card should he buy?
[01:15] <OpenMedia> Does he have to have USB?
[01:15] <CDG52> any idea why also when i plug in my ir receiver, it will let me use it and light up the light and like 5 seconds later it wont blink the light if i push a button?
[01:15] <CDG52> yeah still have the same issue
[01:15] <kruuli> OpenMedia nah dont think so .. but is there a better usb card then the pvr usb2 card if he has to have it?
[01:16] <OpenMedia> Depends on if he can support digital TV or needs analogue.
[01:16] <kruuli> needs to be analogue i believe
[01:18] <superm1> CDG52, when you rebuilt the modules, did you follow the rebuild steps at the bottom of that howto
[01:18] <superm1> including the cleaning step
[01:18] <superm1> and such
[01:19] <CDG52> yed
[01:19] <CDG52> yes
[01:20] <kruuli> need my beauity sleep .. nn all an thank you again superm1 for you help :)
[01:20] <superm1> nn kruuli np
[01:21] <superm1> CDG52hmum
[01:21] <superm1> whats the error when trying to load now?
[01:38] <superm1> rogue780|mythsrv, http://www.mythbuntu.org/~supermario/mythbuntu/7.10-screenshots/gdm_theme.png
[01:38] <superm1> there is what it ended up like
[01:38] <a5benwillis> ello guys
[01:39] <superm1> hi a5benwillis
[01:39] <a5benwillis> any cisco people out there?
[01:40] <a5benwillis> looking for a piece of software....
[01:40] <a5benwillis> stupid winders
[01:40] <rogue780||> miss me? I ****ing hate comcrap
[01:40] <superm1> rogue780||, did you get my post?
[01:40] <superm1> rogue780|mythsrv, http://www.mythbuntu.org/~supermario/mythbuntu/7.10-screenshots/gdm_theme.png
[01:43] <rogue780||> that looks cool. I've been experimenting with ways to let the user select a session after gdm authenticates the user (well sort of...it's a bit more complicated than that, and it allows lirc to be used to select the session)
[01:43] <rogue780||> and also w/the idea that each user has a different default session
[01:43] <superm1> oooh that sounds nice
[01:43] <superm1> atm the workaround for the session thing was to just make the default session the administration session
[01:44] <rogue780||> I thought that the first option of my two had the most promise
[01:44] <superm1> they still have to login normally though
[01:44] <superm1> so still need a keyboard one wy or another
[01:46] <rogue780||> unless you have gdm setup to autologin the mythtv user. then a menu appears asking which session they want, which can be selected using their remote control of choice, and if after 10 seconds no session is selected, the default session loads and it's all ready to watch tv
[01:46] <superm1> ah, so they would be able to run mythtv-setup and such
[01:46] <superm1> right there hten
[01:46] <superm1> thats an interesting way to go about it
[01:47] <superm1> but there is one inherent problem
[01:47] <rogue780||> that's the theory. I've only done some preliminary stuff on it
[01:47] <rogue780||> they haven't set up a control yet?
[01:47] <superm1> the mythtv user pourposly doesnt have sudo perms
[01:47] <superm1> so you can only do so much in that session option for administration
[01:48] <CDG52> so has anyone lmpw wju wjem o [;ig om ,u wore;ess receiver, it works for about 5 seconds like the buttons will make the lights flash on the receiver, but not working on computer, and then after 5 seconds the receivers light doesnt do anything
[01:48] <rogue780||> there are *ways* around that...none of which are considered couth (sp)
[01:49] <rogue780||> how am I still logged in as rogue780|mythsrv ? that's funny
[01:49] <superm1> CDG52, sounds like a receiver going bad to me
[01:49] <superm1> or a usb port not giving enough ower
[01:49] <superm1> power
[01:49] <rogue780||> someone should kick that usurper
[01:49] <CDG52> the receiver works fine on my windows box
[01:49] <CDG52> it might be that the usb on this computer are bad
[01:49] <rogue780||> sweet
[01:50] <rogue780||> err CDG52 not sweet to your problem...
[01:50] <rogue780||> bad timing
[01:50] <superm1> what are you think for these $ways rogue780|| ?
[01:50] <OpenMedia> Tried a different USB port? also run lsusb to make sure the device is still present.
[01:51] <CDG52> i did try a different usb port, there are only two though
[01:51] <CDG52> i have yet to try lsusb
[01:51] <rogue780||> well one obvious one would be to give mythtv sudo perms by default...but there are good reasons why it doesn't. another would be to give the user the ability to "su root" by the click of a button when need be...but that is also fraught with problems as well.
[01:51] <CDG52> yes it does show up with lsusb
[01:52] <superm1> rogue780||, as much as i'm for easy administration, I dont want the mythtv user to have any more permissions than to run mythtv-setup, start or stop the backend
[01:52] <superm1> too dangerous with automatic login
[01:52] <superm1> perhaps an alternative
[01:52] <superm1> is to force a logout if you choose the admin option
[01:52] <superm1> and then give them the opportunity to log back in
[01:53] <superm1> as a regular user
[01:53] <rogue780||> I think the best solution would be to have it set up so that it auto logs in as mythtv, then in the setup menu there is an option to login to administrative mode, the user enters a pin number with the remote, the session closes, gdm resets and autologs into administrative mode.
[01:53] <superm1> well auto login as administrative, don't know how to allow such gdm changes
[01:53] <superm1> because to change gdm stuff you need admin priv in the first place
[01:53] <rogue780||> right
[01:54] <rogue780||> I'll think of a way.
[01:54] <superm1> having a password is a safe way to do it I think, and just having people log into the admin session
[01:55] <superm1> but I like having a little popup for 5 seconds or so that will offer to logout to go to the admin session
[01:55] <CDG52> so with my issue of not getting lirc to work, i decided i would try to record my own file by hitting buttons
[01:55] <CDG52> and i type in sudo modprobe lirc_mceusb2 and it says "FATAL: Module lirc_mceusb2 not found."
[01:55] <superm1> then the module wasn't built
[01:56] <superm1> when you did the rebuild steps, for some reason or another
[01:56] <CDG52> weird
[01:56] <CDG52> i followed all of them exactly as it said
[01:56] <CDG52> from that site
[01:56] <CDG52> c/p it all
[01:56] <superm1> can you pastebin /etc/lirc/lirc-modules-source.conf ?
[01:57] <CDG52> pastebin?
[01:57] <superm1> !pastebin
[01:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:57] <rogue780||> !paste
[01:57] <CDG52> ah ok
[01:59] <CDG52> weird that file is empty
[01:59] <CDG52> wops miss spell
[01:59] <CDG52> one sec
[02:00] <CDG52> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25345
[02:00] <superm1> OK looks good
[02:01] <rogue780||> so I told comcast that my interent has been going in and out of late and they told me to disconnect my modem from my router and plug my computer into the modem directly. so as I was doing removing the cable from my router I said to myself (I talk to myself quite a bit, I think it's a sign of genius), "hmm...I wonder which cable it is." The guy on the other line informs me that it is not the round one, and then told me it w
[02:01] <rogue780||> as in fact the one connected to my computer. so I told him, "I meant, which one of the 10 that I have plugged in."
[02:01] <superm1> can you pastebin the output of all the rebuild steps?
[02:01] <superm1> what happens (perhaps there is a little error there that your missing)
[02:02] <CDG52> which part is the rebuild part?
[02:03] <superm1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty#head-d3d68ae281fb2e007e5d842321d7ecc2dbdd9e50
[02:03] <tgm4883> lol @ the comcast guy
[02:03] <rogue780||> then later he asked me to go to "My Computer" and the control panel...
[02:03] <superm1> the part you wree following before :)
[02:03] <rogue780||> and eventually I was told to open internet explorer
[02:03] <rogue780||> he was awesome
[02:04] <rogue780||> hey superm1 mythbuntu works on my "windows box" but not on my sempron64...but feisty does
[02:04] <superm1> rogue780||, well the next mythbuntu disk will be gutsy based, so perhaps the new xorg and casper will be more friendly
[02:04] <superm1> to you sempron64
[02:05] <rogue780||> maybe
[02:05] <superm1> i built a reference disk this morning, but i wont be back home until another 2 or 3 hours
[02:06] <superm1> so i can see whats broken atm on gutsy
[02:07] <CDG52> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25347
[02:08] <superm1> okay looks just right
[02:08] <superm1> and you should be able to modprobe mceusb2 now
[02:09] <CDG52> o hey that worked
[02:09] <superm1> :)
[02:09] <rogue780||> I love modprobe
[02:09] <CDG52> ah it started
[02:09] <CDG52> it said
[02:09] <CDG52> starting lirc deamon: lircd.
[02:09] <CDG52> then it went to another line
[02:09] <CDG52> isnt it not supsoto do that?
[02:10] <CDG52> o hey it works!
[02:10] <rogue780||> glorious huzzah!
[02:11] <CDG52> now time to figure how ot make it work with tvtime
[02:14] <tgm4883> the comcast tech that hooked up my new cable box decided he was much smarter than I and changed where all my cables were going behind my mythtv box
[02:14] <tgm4883> my tech and rogue780||'s tech must be one in the same
[02:15] <OpenMedia> irw is your friend
[02:16] <rogue780||> the comcast guy who hooked up my internet had no idea what to do with the slackware box I purposely gave him and gave up trying to set up my internet
[02:17] <CDG52> so im confused, i set this all up and got my keys in and irw see's my keys but none of it will work
[02:18] <rogue780||> apparently if you don't have windows they can't set up your Internet and make you do it. I had to fight to get the install fee refunded...around here they don't do self installs for some reason
[02:18] <superm1> okay kids see you later :)
[02:18] <rogue780||> CDG52, do you have both a .lircrc and lircrc files?
[02:18] <rogue780||> see ya mario
[02:18] <CDG52> i have .lircrc
[02:18] <CDG52> what are hte lircrc files?
[02:19] <tgm4883> my comcast guy kept going on an on about the extra functions of the comcast remote.  He tried to make me feel special by telling me that he doesn't tell his average customers these things, and hes telling me that I would probably use these features since he saw the computer next to my TV
[02:19] <rogue780||> lol
[02:19] <rogue780||> CDG52, hold on half a second
[02:19] <CDG52> ok
[02:19] <rogue780||> you're trying to get mythtv working right...just to be clear?
[02:19] <tgm4883> mind you the extra feature he was talking about was that the volume button can be made to control my surround sound
[02:20] <rogue780||> wow! amazing
[02:20] <tgm4883> like im really going to use their remote anyway
[02:20] <tgm4883> the whole time he is explaining all this to another guy who apparently was his trainee
[02:21] <tgm4883> "some people have tuner cards in their pc's....) trying to show off
[02:22] <tgm4883> i just let him do his thing and be on his way
[02:22] <tgm4883> I cant believe that dont do self installs where you live
[02:22] <tgm4883> where is that btw?
[02:24] <rogue780||> I'm near baltimore on an Army base
[02:24] <rogue780||> CDG52,
[02:24] <CDG52> yes?
[02:24] <rogue780||> you need to have a ~/.lircrc and ~/.mythtv/lircrc file
[02:24] <rogue780||> they need to be identical
[02:24] <rogue780||> so you can just make a link
[02:25] <CDG52> ah
[02:25] <tgm4883> Bummer, here I just signed up  at best buy, got a free modem, and a $100 gift cert to best buy
[02:25] <rogue780||> where are you?
[02:25] <tgm4883> Oregon
[02:26] <rogue780||> I'm from Oregon
[02:26] <tgm4883> Sweet what part
[02:26] <OpenMedia> Oregon is the place to be at the moment. Still trying to organise ubuntulive
[02:26] <rogue780||> first 15 years in Medford, last 4 in Eugene
[02:26] <tgm4883> Sweet, im originally from Klamath Falls, but now live in Salem
[02:27] <rogue780||> OpenMedia, aren't you in NZ?
[02:27] <OpenMedia> Yup. Auckland
[02:51] <xeno_> I don't see mythTV as a supported package on my feisty machines.  It's there with apt-cache,...
[02:52] <xeno_> but I am unable to access it with synaptic package manager.
[02:52] <dannyboy79> anyone know about mythrename.pl?
[02:53] <dannyboy79> anyone here?
[02:54] <dannyboy79> guess not. goodbye
[03:00] <dannyboy79> anyone here
[03:03] <dannyboy79> hello?
[03:04] <dannyboy79> is something just not working here?
[03:06] <dannyboy79> hello?
[03:06] <dannyboy79> hugolp: can you see what I am typing?
[03:06] <dannyboy79> tgm4883: are you here but not responding?
[03:06] <OpenMedia_Steve> I'm here
[03:07] <tgm4883> im here
[03:07] <dannyboy79> well do you know how to use mythrename.pl? superm1, the developer of Mythbuntu helped me set it up
[03:07] <dannyboy79> but it's not working
[03:08] <dannyboy79> it's a root cronjob that is suppose to take the recordings and name them something logical and then put that logical named symlink into a different folder but it doesnt' work.
[03:08] <OpenMedia_Steve> Is there no output?
[03:09] <OpenMedia_Steve> What happens when you run it manually on the command line?
[03:09] <dannyboy79> correct, the folder is empty but I did notice that the mythtv recordings folder has a bunch of files that are different than what they were, just numbers though, they still aren't readble
[03:09] <dannyboy79> let me try
[03:10] <OpenMedia_Steve> Sorry closed the wrong window.
[03:10] <OpenMedia_Steve> Did you mention what the output was on the command line?
[03:10] <dannyboy79> well this is what the crontab looks like: 0,30 * * * * /usr/local/bin/mythrename.pl --link /media/400gb/mythtv/readable-recordings
[03:11] <OpenMedia_Steve> And if you just run it on the command line?
[03:12] <dannyboy79> huh??? i
[03:12] <dannyboy79> it turns out that it's not even there anymore????
[03:12] <OpenMedia_Steve> What mythrename.pl ?
[03:12] <dannyboy79> I have to re-gunzip it and re-edit the file, then let me see.
[03:13] <dannyboy79> it's located within /usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/mythrename.pl.gz
[03:14] <tgm4883> Well that could be the problem
[03:15] <dannyboy79> well now that I look in it, I can't find where to change the mysql password and what not???
[03:15] <dannyboy79> so you've never heard of this before? you don't use it?
[03:16] <tgm4883> When you run it from the command line, does it create the symlinks?
[03:20] <dannyboy79> no
[03:21] <dannyboy79> it asks me to run it with options and a filename??
[03:21] <dannyboy79> I think I figured out the problem, it wasn't executable and also, I noticed that the name within the crontab was calling for mythrename when the file within /usr/local/bin/ is called mythname.pl
[03:24] <dannyboy79> is there a reason why I am not seeing others talking when there's 22 users within this channel? i am new to irc so I am curious?
[03:25] <tgm4883> yea, while our computers are logged into hhere, we are not always at our computers (or are looking at different screen)
[03:26] <tgm4883> this is usually the case with development channels
[03:27] <tgm4883> since we are logged in, if someone wants to talk to us they just say our name, and we will get a notification (as long as we are logged in)
[03:28] <OpenMedia_Steve> I use mythrename.pl on myPVR units.
[03:30] <OpenMedia_Steve> we run perl /usr/local/bin/mythrename.pl --link /myth/pretty
[03:31] <OpenMedia_Steve> We have a script in /etc/cron.hourly that runs it
[03:46] <rogue780||> is there a way to see the last few commands executed by someone accessing the computer through ssh from the host system?
[04:11] <OpenMedia_Steve> Look at their history?
[04:17] <rogue780||> OpenMedia_Steve, you know how o do that remotely?
[04:19] <OpenMedia_Steve> no.
[04:19] <OpenMedia_Steve> Need to login to check
[04:25] <CDG52> sorry to ask another dumb question but how do you mount a samba share?
[04:52] <CDG52> ah never mind
[07:13] <superm1> imbrandon, any news on the multiple aliasing?
[07:36] <CDG52> hey anyone here?
[07:37] <CDG52> got a question about lirc if anyone can help
[07:40] <CDG52> im trying to set my power button up on my remote to turn off my screen
[07:40] <CDG52> lirc is running, it see's my remote it just isnt interacting with anything
[07:50] <OpenMedia_Steve> Ok MCE2 remote?
[07:51] <OpenMedia_Steve> What do you want it to do? Shutdown the Myth box or something else?
[07:52] <CDG52> i want to turn off my monitor lol
[07:52] <OpenMedia_Steve> Via power management?
[07:52] <CDG52> o and any idea why irexec has to be running?
[07:52] <CDG52> o i know the code
[07:53] <OpenMedia_Steve> irexec is the best way to send the commands for an MCE remote onto MythTV
[07:53] <CDG52> irexec has to be running for my remote to work, even though under prog = irexec
[07:53] <CDG52> so to get the remote to work i gotta go into console and run irexec
[07:53] <CDG52> else it wont pick it up
[07:54] <OpenMedia_Steve> I run it as part of my window manager startup8-)
[07:55] <OpenMedia_Steve> I have the following in my config
[07:55] <OpenMedia_Steve> begin
[07:55] <OpenMedia_Steve>     prog = irexec
[07:55] <OpenMedia_Steve>     button = Power
[07:55] <OpenMedia_Steve>     repeat = 0
[07:55] <OpenMedia_Steve>     config = /usr/local/bin/toggleMythFrontend
[07:55] <OpenMedia_Steve> end
[07:55] <CDG52> yeah no where in the install it said that lol
[07:55] <OpenMedia_Steve> its kinda standard for MCE2 and MythTV
[07:55] <OpenMedia_Steve> Anyhow you could insert your own script to power off.
[07:56] <CDG52> ya
[07:56] <OpenMedia_Steve> My toggleMythFrontend is a quick way to recover from a frontend lockup.
[07:56] <OpenMedia_Steve> First power button press kill mythfrontend, second restarts X
[07:57] <OpenMedia_Steve> We also program the custom keys
[07:57] <OpenMedia_Steve> begin
[07:57] <OpenMedia_Steve>     prog = irxevent
[07:57] <OpenMedia_Steve>     button = TV
[07:57] <OpenMedia_Steve>     config = Key ctrl-alt-T CurrentWindow
[07:57] <OpenMedia_Steve> end
[07:57] <OpenMedia_Steve> Then map CTRL+ALT+T inside MythTV
[07:57] <OpenMedia_Steve> superm1: Any thoughts on suggesting some standards for remote hot keys to be mapped into MythTV?
[07:58] <OpenMedia_Steve> Our standards are covered at http://openmedia.co.nz/openmedia/content/view/27/59/ and work really well on MCE remotes
[07:58] <superm1> OpenMedia_Steve, you mean like "general" standards
[07:58] <OpenMedia_Steve> Yeah..
[07:58] <superm1> the Ubuntu Media Center team has specs on such things
[07:58] <superm1> that they are writing
[07:58] <superm1> and working with upstream on
[07:58] <superm1> (upstream being lirc.org)
[07:59] <OpenMedia_Steve> Hot keys have to do what they say they do, or consumers get confused.
[08:00] <superm1> OpenMedia_Steve, thats very good
[08:00] <superm1> that you document such things
[08:00] <superm1> for mythbuntu at least, lirc is a low priority for us since all this work is going on with UMC
[08:00] <superm1> and its a rapidly changing front
[08:01] <OpenMedia_Steve> We have a couple of guides at http://openmedia.co.nz/openmedia/content/blogcategory/71/70/ as well as our support pages.
[08:01] <OpenMedia_Steve> I don't have a single customer who can cope with the standard MythTV docs. Just to hard for them
[08:03] <superm1> yea sometimes its indeed hard to put myself in the shoes of someone new to it
[08:04] <OpenMedia_Steve> Dealing with "customers" has been very enlightening.
[08:04] <OpenMedia_Steve> They still don't understand that the EPG data doesn't update every second.
[08:04] <OpenMedia_Steve> I keep getting questions about how to decode those secret signals that they put around adverts.
[08:09] <CDG52> how would i run two commands at once in the remote program?
[08:09] <OpenMedia_Steve> Such as?
[08:10] <CDG52> never mind
[08:12] <CDG52> ok question again sorry about these
[08:12] <CDG52> if "dpms force off" turns off your monitor
[08:12] <CDG52> how would i turn it back on?
[08:12] <CDG52> wops
[08:12] <CDG52> "xset dpms force off"
[08:14] <CDG52> "xset dpms force on" turns the monitor on
[08:14] <CDG52> but its a blank screen
[08:16] <OpenMedia_Steve> Hmm. You need to know what state you are in when you press power to invert it.
[08:18] <CDG52> i think i jsut found it online
[08:18] <CDG52> let me test
[08:20] <CDG52> ok cool it works
[08:20] <CDG52> as long as the screen isnt on already it will work otherwise the screen blanks....
[08:21] <CDG52> ok fixed that issue
[08:21] <CDG52> chagned the order of stuff
[01:22] <jimmy> hey guys
[01:22] <jimmy> my installer has crashed at 83%
[01:22] <jimmy> during the configuring MythTv stage
[01:24] <jimmy> anyone here
[01:28] <jimmy> yeh, the second it gets up to configuring MythTV it crashes
[01:33] <laga> heh
[01:33] <laga> jimmy: on the live cd: run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:33] <laga> re-run the installier
[01:34] <jimmy> rgr
[01:36] <jimmy> so just go into terminal and type that in?
[01:37] <laga> jup
[01:37] <laga> "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[01:38] <jimmy> will try that in a sec mate
[02:18] <jimmy> crashed with same error
[02:18] <jimmy> actually no
[02:18] <jimmy> different error
[02:22] <jimmy> tried to do that apt-get stuff
[02:22] <jimmy> had an error doing that, saying Pipe Broken
[02:22] <jimmy> no disk space..
[02:23] <laga> sad :(
[02:23] <jimmy> even though there is a blank 80gb in there
[02:23] <laga> sorry, wait for superm1 then
[02:23] <laga> it's not writing to the hard disk yet
[02:23] <laga> i need to go now
[02:23] <jimmy> ok
[03:26] <jimmy> anyone else have any ideas why the install failes when it gets to configuring MythTv ?
[03:33] <superm1_> rikishinov, ping
[03:37] <rikishinov> hi superm1_
[03:37] <superm1_> rikishinov, you dissappeared before I could mention to you that your artwork was very nice
[03:38] <rikishinov> superm1_: thanks, so any thoughts about the design... which color should it be...
[03:38] <superm1_> rikishinov, well what I wanted to do was toss you and the two other guys who were interested in artwork related things together
[03:39] <superm1_> and let you figure it out and bring the results back
[03:39] <superm1_> so among the 3 of you whatever decided :)
[03:41] <rikishinov> and who are these two guys?
[03:41] <superm1_> rogue780||, and a buddy of mine from school
[03:42] <superm1_> (but he's not on IRC, so I was thinking i'll just send the three of you an email and you can sort things out that way)
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #120195 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashes at configure mythtv (dup-of: 119055)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120195
[04:01] <rikishinov> out and bring the results back
[04:01] <rikishinov> 16:39 < superm1_> so among the 3 of you whatever decided :)
[04:01] <rikishinov> 16:40 < rikishinov> and who are these two guys?
[04:01] <rikishinov> 16:41 < superm1_> rogue780||, and a buddy of mine from school
[04:01] <superm1> rikishinov, pm me your email address if you can
[04:01] <superm1> you have to register w/ freenode to pm if you're not already
[04:03] <rikishinov> superm1: I'm going to register in a bit..
[04:03] <superm1> k
[06:56] <rogue780|mythsrv> why is rikishinov never here when I am?
[07:37] <[g2] > sorry for the repeat if anyone is in ubuntustudio, but does anyone know something about Ubuntu Media Center ?
[07:46] <rogue780|mythsrv> [g2] , what about it?
[08:00] <[g2] > rogue780: It's supposed to use Elisa and I see a very brief website here http://en.ubuntumediacenter.org/
[08:01] <[g2] > I'd think you guys or the studio guys would know about it
[08:02] <CDG52> hey does anyone know a command to bring ubuntu out of sleep?
[08:02] <CDG52> im working on putting it into my remote
[08:02] <CDG52> but my only issue is the computer goess to sleep after some time
[08:03] <rogue780> [g2] , all I know is it uses Elisa...so you know more than I
[08:27] <tgm4883> [g2] , what is your question
[08:28] <tgm4883> CDG52, wouldn't that be a ACPI BIOS function?
[08:28] <CDG52> im not sure, but i think i figure it out, all i did was turn off the screen saver
[08:29] <tgm4883> Is the computer actually shutting down?
[08:29] <CDG52> no
[08:29] <CDG52> just turning off the monitor
[08:30] <tgm4883> ah
[08:30] <CDG52> yeah i got that part
[08:30] <CDG52> and i learned how to turn it on
[08:30] <CDG52> which worked fine up untill like 30mins then the screen would be black again
[08:30] <CDG52> but i figure that out to
[08:30] <CDG52> does anyone know if the media player inside mythtv was built for mythtv or is another program?
[08:31] <tgm4883> you mean the internal player?
[08:32] <CDG52> yes
[08:32] <CDG52> the one for watching movies and such
[08:33] <tgm4883> well you can set it to use other programs like xine
[08:33] <tgm4883> but I think the internal player was built for mythtv
[08:33] <CDG52> ah
[08:34] <CDG52> unfortunitly im having issues with mythtv but the media player/gallery is really nice
[08:34] <CDG52> mythtv is very slow and the audio lags compraed to video
[08:34] <[g2] > tgm4883: I'm curious whether it's a Ubuntu sponsored "release" and who's running it
[08:34] <CDG52> but the media player runs nicly
[08:35] <tgm4883> [g2] , i dont think it is, as the only "sponsored" releases are (K)(X)ubuntu
[08:35] <tgm4883> CDG52, specs?
[08:36] <[g2] > tgm4883: well I mean like studio or I'd imagine mythtv
[08:36] <tgm4883> [g2] , I don't think studio is official either
[08:36] <[g2] > not "sponsored" in the sense of [K|X] Ubuntu
[08:36] <CDG52> its a 2.6 Celleron with 512mb ddr ram, its a compaq i got from a client, with a old hauppage card, one without the encoder on bord
[08:36] <CDG52> so it requires a audio cable into the line in
[08:37] <tgm4883> well then what do you mean by sponsored?
[08:37] <tgm4883> CDG52, can you watch a previously recorded program with not recording a program?
[08:38] <[g2] > tgm4883: Mark and other are clearly in support of some releases other than K|X|Ubuntu..
[08:38] <tgm4883> ah
[08:38] <CDG52> ive never tried watching a previously recorded program
[08:38] <[g2] > then I think some ppl brand stuff like Mint Linux which is Ubuntu derived, but not a Ubuntu project
[08:39] <tgm4883> CDG52, Sounds like the computer can't keep up with recording a program and playing back the program at the same time.  Try recording a program without watching it, then watching it later
[08:41] <tgm4883> [g2] , well in order to use the *buntu name, I believe that there are some qualifications that you must meet first
[08:41] <tgm4883> So i think that would make it seem favorable in the eyes of Mark
[08:42] <CDG52> actualy
[08:43] <CDG52> i htink the computre isnt processing the line in port
[08:43] <CDG52> and all its doing is unmusting it
[08:43] <CDG52> making the sound go a moment faster then the image
[08:43] <tgm4883> CDG52, the computer.....wait, is the video playing smooth?
[08:44] <CDG52> for the most part, i have had a few gitters
[08:44] <CDG52> now on the otherhand tvtime works great
[08:44] <CDG52> and has no lag at all no gitters
[08:44] <CDG52> crystal clear picture
[08:44] <tgm4883> [g2]  if the forums are any indicator, then the only "sponsored" distro is Ubuntu Christian Edition
[08:44] <tgm4883> CDG52, how far is the audio off?
[08:44] <CDG52> 2 seconds maybe 3?
[08:44] <tgm4883> ah
[08:45] <tgm4883> theres your problem
[08:45] <tgm4883> Your grabbing the wrong audio
[08:45] <CDG52> ah?
[08:45] <CDG52> should i grab the number two choice?
[08:45] <tgm4883> Your system is playing back the audio from the live feed, while the video is 3 seconds behind because it is being written to the hard drive first
[08:46] <CDG52> correct
[08:46] <CDG52> thats what i thought was going on
[08:47] <tgm4883> lol, i thought you had a different problem
[08:47] <tgm4883> now were on the same page
[08:47] <CDG52> yup
[08:47] <tgm4883> sec, let me look something up
[08:52] <tgm4883> arg, i cant find it
[08:52] <tgm4883> but its a common problem with software encoders and has a solution
[08:52] <CDG52> ah
[08:53] <tgm4883> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2516825 here is a thread on it, check post 29 by majoridiot
[08:54] <CDG52> thank you
[08:55] <tgm4883> np
[09:00] <CDG52> ever notice filling the database takes forever?
[09:02] <tgm4883> yes
[09:02] <tgm4883> but its really only noticable once
[09:03] <CDG52> mine recalls the channel line up every time
[09:03] <tgm4883> What?
[09:04] <CDG52> um nvm
[09:04] <CDG52> o hey look no more lag
[09:04] <CDG52> lol
[09:04] <CDG52> o crap
[09:04] <CDG52> now i have two audio streems
[09:04] <CDG52> lol
[09:04] <tgm4883> yea, one needs muted
[09:05] <CDG52> ah alright
[09:05] <CDG52> got it
[09:06] <CDG52> now all i gotta do is reporgram my remote for it
[10:38] <kruuli> goodevning!
[10:44] <OpenMediaSupport> Don't you mean morning ;)
[10:45] <kruuli> heeh well its more like night here i guess :p
[10:46] <kruuli> OpenMediaSupport you never told me what tv tuner card may pal should get? he had a pci slot free .. so we are thinking about the PVR 350..
[10:46] <OpenMediaSupport> kruuli: Yeah sorry about that. Depends how he wants to drive the screen. Personally for analogue I'd use a PVR-150 as the tuner is better than the PVR-500
[10:54] <kruuli> the pvr-150 is better then the pvr-305 for analogue? why is that?
[10:55] <OpenMediaSupport> Nah 150 better than 500 because the dual tuner in the 500 has more reception issues
[10:55] <OpenMediaSupport> 350 is more expensive because it has the TV Out.
[10:57] <laga> word is that support for the tv-out of the 350 will be dropped. because no developer uses it
[11:00] <kruuli> if i have a graphic card with tv out theres no need for the tv out on the 350 right?
[11:08] <OpenMediaSupport> Yup. Plus the 350 can only do SD out anyway
[11:08] <OpenMediaSupport> kruuli:  What country is your friend in?
[11:11] <kruuli> sweden mate
[11:11] <OpenMediaSupport> Better get him to also look at DVB-T cards. Heard HD Digital transmission are just starting
[11:13] <kruuli> yeah .. the "native" channels sends in HD
[11:13] <kruuli> but hes behinde a analog cable anyway as the house provides it that way
[11:19] <rogue780> shenanigans!
[11:27] <superm1> rogue780, ?
[11:29] <OpenMediaSupport> My thoughts exactly :0
[11:52] <superm1> OpenMedia, are your guys' patches tagged for the 0.21 milestone?
[11:52] <superm1> on svn.mythtv.org?
[12:00] <kruuli> nn!
[12:22] <OpenMedia> superm1: Some of our required patches are already in SVN for 0.21.
[12:22] <OpenMedia> We need a bunch of backports to run off 0.20-fixes.
[12:22] <superm1> OpenMedia, good.  I was asking, because I saw the number of tickets is dwindling
[12:23] <superm1> its at around 94 now, so 0.21 should be on its way the next two-three months based upon past history
[12:24] <OpenMedia> Sweet. Nice to have the new storage containers. What I really really want is the MythMultiplex work for DVB though.
[12:24] <OpenMedia> Rest of our patches are around additional myPVR specific menus and gui elements.
[12:24] <superm1> ah to record multiple channels on the same multiplex?
[12:25] <OpenMedia> Yup thats the one. Problem is some windows products already do this.
[12:25] <superm1> is this in trunk yet? or just "being worked on"
[12:26] <OpenMedia> Separate branch at the moment - http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/mythtv-multirec
[12:26] <superm1> ah
[12:26] <superm1> is this the same branch that will allow multiple recorders to be blocked by one recording?
[12:26] <superm1> i'd imagine it to be along the same lines
[12:26] <OpenMedia> To radical at the moment. Don't know about the other problem.
[12:27] <superm1> the other problem is like when you have a STB
[12:27] <superm1> that multiple inputs record from
[12:27] <superm1> say a firewire input and a svideo input
[12:27] <superm1> but some channels are only available to say the firewire input
[12:27] <superm1> you want to block out the svideo if you activate the firewire
[12:28] <OpenMedia> One feature that would be nice is if you are recording two programs on the same channel+input that you can't under/overrun rather than cut over.
[12:28] <superm1> the last i heard it brought up was in a thread about this mythmultiplex stuff
[12:28] <OpenMedia> I don't know if that actually made sense.
[12:28] <superm1> na, i dont follow that