tanlaanHello everyone12:26
TheSheephi tanlaan12:27
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equinoxehy there...12:28
TheSheephi equinoxe12:29
equinoxeI've seen something strange12:29
tanlaanApparently I have distro 6.06, think I should do a distro upgrade to the newest 7.04 *I think*12:29
equinoxeif I'm adding sudo12:29
equinoxein front of a launcher command12:29
equinoxeI don't get any passwort promt12:29
tanlaanhave you already put it in once before?12:30
equinoxeI can start a root terminal12:30
tanlaan*in the session*12:30
TheSheepequinoxe: sudo is a command line command, use gksu instead12:30
tanlaanyou sure?12:30
tanlaanas in you have used sudo before12:30
equinoxeI'll reboot12:30
equinoxeto test it12:30
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blizzis there any reason why my flashplayer doesnt support fullscreen mode although it should according to the version number?12:39
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TheSheepblizz: maybe it's about the windows version?12:41
equinoxeI'm back.... sudo in launcher stuff12:41
equinoxeafter reboot, everything seems ok12:41
equinoxeI just can't remember what I did12:42
TheSheepequinoxe: better use gksu instead of sudo12:42
blizzhttp://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flash_Player:9:Update:Full-Screen_Mode:Demos (it says linux updated shipped, but doesnt state if fullscreen mode was included)12:42
equinoxeIt's not about me12:42
equinoxeI can use gksu12:42
equinoxebut I do not want anyone else12:42
equinoxeto use sudo12:42
equinoxeand break things :)12:43
equinoxeI suppose I entered the root12:43
equinoxepassword at least once12:43
TheSheepequinoxe: well, sudo will ask you for your password only the first time12:43
equinoxeuntil it happend12:43
TheSheepequinoxe: then after some time12:43
tanlaanthats what I thought12:43
equinoxeoh well12:43
TheSheepequinoxe: I think 2 minutes or minute, or something like that12:43
blizzFlash Player for Linux includes all of the features from Flash Player except for windowless mode and full-screen mode.12:44
equinoxeit seems odd to me12:44
equinoxeI had ubuntu installed12:44
equinoxeuntil today12:44
equinoxewhen I swtched to xubuntu12:44
equinoxeand... it just promted me12:44
equinoxefor everything12:44
TheSheepequinoxe: it's the same in ubuntu12:44
equinoxehope so.12:44
CatoptromancyAll other formats work, divx, wmv12:52
Catoptromancynone of my mp3s works12:52
TheSheepCatoptromancy: other than what? the screenshot is not very infomrative...12:53
CatoptromancyI click mp3 files12:53
Catoptromancyget that message12:53
CatoptromancyI didnt move directory around12:53
Catoptromancythey just stopped working12:54
CatoptromancyI know error is not very informative12:54
Catoptromancybut that screenshot is pretty much all it says12:54
Catoptromancyeverything else seems to work12:54
Catoptromancymp3 seems to laod fine12:54
Catoptromancybut doesnt autoplay, and clicking to play from playlist gives error12:55
TheSheepCatoptromancy: you have libxine-extracodecs installed?12:57
TheSheepCatoptromancy: you're running feisty or gutsy?12:59
tanlaanhow do I upgrade my distro?01:00
Catoptromancytanlaan, menu > system > update manager01:00
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OGDAis there some way to use xfire in linux?01:18
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emdashi know xfce has a compositor, but i can't seem to find the control panel01:33
R[a] ndomdo you have compositing turned on in xorg?01:39
R[a] ndomhttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_xfce4#Composite to enable it in the config file if you have to01:41
R[a] ndomdon't remember, its been a while since I've messed with it01:41
emdashi remember a having a checkbox to enable it, but it was too slow01:44
emdashit totally doesn't work with the restricted ati drivers01:47
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buntuanybody on nvidia 100 series driver?04:03
buntui get api mismatch error, latest restricted module package is 2.6.20-16.28, whereas latest generic image and headers are 2.6.20-16.29- could this be the cause?04:05
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buntuanybody on nvidia 100 series driver? i get api mismatch error, latest restricted module package is 2.6.20-16.28, whereas latest generic image and headers are 2.6.20-16.29- could this be the cause?04:12
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j1mc|laptopbuntu: if i recall correctly, sometimes the kernel gets updated before binary driver makes can update their driver to be compatible with the new kernel.04:15
j1mc|laptopit's something you risk when using non-free drivers.04:15
odatanyone know how to set permissions for a user through the command line?04:16
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GraelbDon't suppose anyone has had problems with installing vmware tools on a guest debian installation?05:35
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GraelbHrm... i'm having issues with the kernel-headers05:37
Graelbsucks, i can't find it anywhere online in forums05:37
j1mc|laptopwhat is the problem, Graelb?05:37
GraelbI'm trying to install VMware-tools on a guest installation in vmachine on windows... it's debian... not ubuntu05:38
Graelbanyway, i run the installation file, and it gets to the part where it's looking for the directory of C header files05:40
Graelbit offers /usr/src/linux/include05:40
Graelbuname -r pushes out 2.6.18-4-k7...05:41
Graelband in /usr/src, there's a dir: linux-headers-2.6.18-d-k7... so i point to that directory05:41
crimsunmeaning linux-headers-2.6.18-4-k7?05:43
Graelbor, rather, i point the installation to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-3-k7/include ... and it says that the directory05:43
Graelbyeah, typo05:43
crimsun2.6.18-3-k7 != 2.6.18-4-k705:43
crimsunaccording to http://packages.debian.org/stable/source/linux-2.6, you must use linux-headers-2.6.18-4-k705:44
Graelbright... that's what i have05:44
crimsunin other words, you need to use linux-headers-$(uname -r)05:44
crimsunyou have linux-headers-2.6.18-4-k7 installed?05:44
crimsunyou should use /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build , then05:45
Graelbone second... i'll try it05:45
crimsunit should be a symlink to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-4-k7 anyhow05:45
Graelbwhat does that mean exactly? do i need to set up a symlink?05:46
crimsuninstalling said package does it for you.05:48
Graelbwhen i type manually in: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-4-k7/include     ---it says the directory of kernel headers (version @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE) does not match your running kernel (2.6.18-4-k7). even if the module05:49
Graelbwere to compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel05:49
vidd_laptophow to use rtorrent?05:50
crimsunwhy are you using /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-4-k7/include?05:50
crimsunwhy don't you use /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build ?05:50
Graelbmaybe i'm just retarded... but do you mean type that in exactly? or replace build with something else?05:51
alnoktaguys please.. i somehow managed to make the panel disappear..how can i get it back? :(06:03
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buntuhttp://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490 + aaronp's comment with shell script got 100.14.09 nvidia drivers to work for me, if anyone was curious06:29
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BFTDdo any of you know how to import contacts from another email and into gmail?06:49
PumpernickelBFTD: You can import in CSV format.07:00
BFTDyeah I did that07:05
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dsmith_what are the lower limits to xubuntu?08:38
dsmith_min. requirements only says about RAM08:39
tonyyarussoI'm going to try it on a PI actually.08:39
tonyyarussoWith 128 RAM08:39
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logmeinwhat up people11:41
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benpiccoHi, how can I get xubuntu using a proxy for every internet related apps?01:07
benpiccothe internet connection runs over a html proxy here, this causes problems with programs without proxy settings01:09
benpiccoand I don want to configure every single program, too...01:09
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about distro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linux-distro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
Thirdy__wats the channel for distros?01:14
PumpernickelYou're in a distributions channel.01:14
PumpernickelSpecifically, you're in the channel for the Xubuntu distribution.01:14
Thirdy__ok, I need a super fast distro but ubuntu easy to install01:15
Thirdy__I tried freespire and first boot, it broke already01:16
Thirdy__so I just want a small distro download and easy to install01:17
PumpernickelTry them all.01:17
Thirdy__Pumpernickel, how do I remove grub?01:18
Thirdy__I have 2 hd01:18
PumpernickelYou don't, usually.01:18
PumpernickelYou need a boot manager of some type, and Grub is default for most modern distributions.01:19
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Thirdyam I connected now?01:21
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Thirdyok will fdisk /MBR work?01:25
ThirdyI need to remove GRUB01:26
PumpernickelErr, why?01:26
PumpernickelGrub isn't something to be trivially removed.01:27
ThirdyPumpernickel, I plan to use BIOS as my boot manager01:27
ThirdyIt's easier to use01:27
Thirdyjust tell BIOS to not detect XP hd, then boot with the linux hd01:28
ThirdyI have two hd's01:28
Thirdythen I can easily follow the DSL installation how to01:29
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helpmeHello. My Wifi router is a Motorola Canopy. I was wondering how i can set it up for Torrent use.01:32
helpmeWhen i use XP it works fine w/ regards to torrents but when im on xubuntu or ubuntu it wont work.01:33
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logmeinI got xubuntu installed but I have a second hard drive that I wanted to try fluxbox on03:28
logmeinfluxbuntu I mean03:28
logmeinso like what guide should I read? most seem to be about using windows with linux03:28
PumpernickelIt's a lot easier using linux with linux.03:30
logmeinso should I just install and not worry about things?03:30
PumpernickelThat's the simplest solution.03:30
logmeinbut which will be the default OS03:30
PumpernickelThe latest to be installed.03:30
logmeinI like how it auto boots up into xubuntu though03:31
PumpernickelYou can configure that easily enough.03:31
logmeinoh well I'll give it a go03:31
logmeinby the way what your opinion on fluxbuntu anyway? is it still in heavy testing?03:31
joejaxxyes it is03:32
logmeinsomeone went on #fluxbuntu asking about how to edit keymapping and stuff...03:32
logmeinso I don't know if I should turn back now or what :)03:33
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abo0hello, i'm having wireless problems, anybody can help ?03:40
abo0trying to configure it using standard xubuntu network manager, gives me no errors wirelss card says it's connected but i get no ip03:43
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JoKoHi... I'm using the text installer to install Xubuntu. Unfortunately, some packages are corrupt. Is it possible to download them during installation?04:17
TheSheepJoKo: you could use the minicd04:20
TheSheep!install | JoKo04:23
ubotuJoKo: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate04:23
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ruksummm...i need help05:39
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TheSheep!ask | ruks05:40
uboturuks: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:40
ruksi installed ubuntu the newest release05:41
ruksdual boot with xp05:41
ruksit says my wireless is roaming,but i cant connect05:41
ruksi read the thread about ndiswrapper05:41
ruksbut im kinda lost05:41
ruksits the x64amd version05:42
TheSheepI helpless here, I have virtually no experience with wireless, maybe the standard docs will help:05:42
TheSheep!wifi | ruks05:42
uboturuks: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:42
ruksok ill check it out05:43
rukswhere do i type in commands at?05:45
TheSheepruks: accessories->terminal05:46
ruksgot ya05:46
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vidd_laptophow do you send a message to another user that is logged in via ssh with cli?06:46
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TheSheepvidd_laptop: man talk06:51
godlessvidd_laptop:  uhm.. wall sends a message to everyone logged in, I think you can use talk for a specific user06:51
godlessor write06:51
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godlesswrite works here, not talk06:52
TheSheepor just check which pty he uses with finger, and do 'echo hello > /dev/pty/XXX'06:53
vidd_laptopthanks...the write command is the easiest i think06:58
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Chikubudo all apps added using add/remove app control install to /usr/share/app-install ?  how can i get them to display a shortcut in the applications control of the desktop?  some do some dont07:35
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ruksok im back,and still dont understand07:38
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ruksi looked thru all the wifi stuff and all that and it seems i should use ndiswrapper looks the easiest but im confused as to how to install it and where07:39
godlessChikubu:  What do you mean by 'applications control'?07:40
godlessYou want a shortcut in the applications menu?07:40
Chikubuthe add/remove applications program like the synaptic one, but not named that07:41
Chikubuwhen i use add remove apps to add programs, they dont always make a shortcut, do they all go to the same folder /usr/share/app-install? and yes how can i get them to appear under applications as a shortcut07:42
Chikubuas they dont make a shortcut, im not sure were they are, unless they are going to that same folder07:43
godlessmost things go in /usr/bin07:43
godlessyou can find an application by the cmd 'type app_name'07:43
godlessie: rob@silver:~$ type bchunk07:44
godlessbchunk is /usr/bin/bchunk07:44
Chikubuassumes i can remeber the name :)07:44
godlessif you right-click on the applications menu button you can 'edit menu'07:44
godlesswell you're going to need to know the name to make a shortcut :)07:45
godlessI'm not to clear on how to edit the application menu though, I find it much easier to make launchers07:45
Chikubuthats why i was hoping they went to same folder so i coudl find them lol07:46
godlesslook in /usr/bin07:47
godlesslots of stuff there though07:47
Chikubuabunch end up in app-install, ill look in usr/bin07:47
Chikubuactual its /usr/share/app-install/desktop most seem to be going too07:48
Chikubuive download a bunch of samba tools and cant remember all their names ugg07:48
Chikuburuks - i just spent some time getting my wirless working, does the wireless adaptor show in the network control under system?07:51
godlessChikubu:  try apropos samba07:52
godlessor man samba07:52
godlesswhich lists a lot of associated programs, which you can then man :)07:52
TheSheepthey go to /usr/share/applications or ~./local/share/applications07:53
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Chikubuthe apropos helped what is that coommand?07:54
TheSheepChikubu: it sreaches the man pages for given word07:54
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tonilpizzahi everyone07:55
Chikubuit missed a few07:55
tonilpizzai have a big problem with xubuntu07:55
tonilpizzawhen i install something i get alot of fonconfig cache errors07:55
tonilpizzaho can i fix07:55
tonilpizzamoreover xubuntu panel doesnt start with the latest kernel07:55
tonilpizzabut only with 1507:55
Chikubuthanx, that is a command i should know :)07:56
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TheSheeptonilpizza: what errors?07:56
tonilpizzaupdating fontconfig-cahce errors07:57
TheSheeptonilpizza: but what do they say exactly?07:57
TheSheeptonilpizza: maybe you're out of you disk space in your root partition?07:57
tonilpizzait tries to update each one and each one fails07:57
tonilpizzaimposible, i've 15Gb07:58
tonilpizzafaild to write cache07:59
Grey_LokiI've just reinstalled Windows XP (and hence, GRUB, too), but now after reconfiguring GRUB as I had the last time I reinstalled XP (i.e, the day before yesterday), loading Windows loads GRUB stage 2 and sends me back to the GRUB OS selection menu. I can load Xubuntu just fine. What could've changed?07:59
tonilpizzattf-opensymbol was the cause..i installed openoffice..07:59
tonilpizzait tries to regenerate font cache07:59
TheSheepGrey_Loki: what is your menu.lst entry for windows?08:00
tonilpizzabut keep failing..08:00
TheSheeptonilpizza: try 'sudo fc-cache -frv'08:00
Grey_LokiTheSheep, shall I pastebin my entire menu.lst for you to peruse?08:00
TheSheepGrey_Loki: yes, please08:01
tonilpizzaTheSheep, many failed to write cache08:01
tonilpizzabut some does go08:01
Grey_LokiTheSheep, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25424/08:01
TheSheeptonilpizza: can you pastebin part of the output?08:02
tonilpizzaTheSheep, how can i copy and paste08:02
tonilpizza/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1: failed to write cache08:02
Grey_LokiTheSheep, that configuration (as far as I can tell, anyway) worked fine a few days ago, and I haven't made any major system changes since. 'df -l' shows sda1 as (hd0,0), and sda2 (windows) as what should be (hd0,1).08:02
tonilpizzafc-cache: failed08:03
tonilpizzalast message08:03
TheSheepGrey_Loki: you have your windows installed on hda2 ?08:03
TheSheepGrey_Loki: ah, ok08:03
Grey_LokiWould you like the output of df -l to confirm?08:03
TheSheepGrey_Loki: is that sda2 a primary partition?08:04
TheSheepok, it is, soryr08:04
TheSheepI don't think today08:04
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Grey_LokiTheSheep, I don't know - how can I check?08:04
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TheSheepGrey_Loki: partitions 1-4 are primary :)08:05
Chikubune1 know about Xvnc?08:05
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TheSheepChikubu: what about it?08:05
Grey_LokiHaha, ok then08:05
Chikubucant connect, says connection refused, not sure where the log jam is08:06
tonilpizzaTheSheep, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25425/08:06
TheSheeptonilpizza: you skipped the most interesting part :)08:07
TheSheeptonilpizza: do these directories mentioned in 'failed to write cache' exist?08:08
tonilpizzai don't know08:08
tonilpizzabut i know that dpkg fails so that i cant configure openoffice08:08
TheSheeptonilpizza: can you check if these directories exist?08:08
tonilpizzalet me give a look08:09
Chikubuin config files is the format usualy something=something or something = something as in protocol=tcp or protocol = tcp?08:09
Chikubuor does it ignore spaces08:09
TheSheepChikubu: not sure how xvnx does it, but traditionally spaces are ignored08:10
Grey_LokiTheSheep, any thoughts on what I could be missing?08:11
tonilpizzaTheSheep, do u know why with the new kernel xubuntu panel doesnt open?08:12
tonilpizzaTheSheep, the dir exists08:12
Chikubuugg i wonder if its the firewall08:12
tonilpizzai dunno why can't write then08:12
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Grey_LokiI see in several guides that usually to resolve this sort of problem with grub, you run 'sudo grub' then 'root (hd0,0)' followed by 'setup (hd0). This worked last time, but now grub seems to launch itself again when selecting WinXP.08:13
tonilpizzaInstallazione di un pacchetto fallita. Tentativo di ripristino:08:13
tonilpizzaConfiguro ttf-opensymbol (2.2.0-1ubuntu3) ...08:13
tonilpizzaUpdating fontconfig cache...08:13
tonilpizza/usr/share/fonts: failed to write cache08:13
tonilpizzaand so on08:13
tonilpizzaall those dir are there and available08:14
Grey_Lokitonilpizza, are you doing this as root, or a normal user?08:16
tonilpizzaas sudo08:16
darrendanyone had any problems with lockups?  Had one last night - complete keyboard/mouse/network shutout.08:16
TheSheepGrey_Loki: it looks correct, maybe the problem is with windows?08:17
darrendhad to hard reboot (power off button)08:17
TheSheeptonilpizza: what does 'df' say?08:17
TheSheepdarrend: they sometimes happen due to hardware failures or bugs in hardware drivers08:17
darrendbut the apps appeared to keep running ok.. clocks and timers were updating normally, screensaver kicked in after 5 mins.08:17
tonilpizzathat i am using 23% of the total space08:18
TheSheepdarrend: especially if you use the binary drivers, like nvidia08:18
darrendTheSheep: mm.. I suspected the network module, but wondered why it would lock mouse/keyboard too08:18
darrendI do use nvidia08:18
tonilpizzaTheSheep, im using 23% of /08:18
darrendin which case, why the network too08:18
darrendseemed odd..08:18
Grey_LokiTheSheep, I booted into windows fine after the initial setup, but since then i haven't been able to reach it to test. Would you say a(nother) reinstall would be worth a try?08:18
TheSheepdarrend: can you try to do 'touch /tmp/somefile' ?08:19
darrendwhat now?  after I rebooted?08:19
TheSheepdarrend: sorry, it was for tonilpizza08:19
Chikubui have an old ati tv turner card in here, heard of any tuner apps for such a thing?08:19
TheSheeptonilpizza: can you try to do 'touch /tmp/somefile' ?08:19
darrendah :)08:19
TheSheepChikubu: mythtv?08:19
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tonilpizzaTheSheep, yes i did, no errors08:20
TheSheeptonilpizza: ok, try to 'touch' one of the directories with errors08:21
tonilpizzafrom sudo or from user08:21
TheSheeptonilpizza: then run fc-cach -vrf and see if that directory still errors08:21
TheSheeptonilpizza: from suod08:21
TheSheepif it disappeared from the error list, then I think I know what happened08:22
Chikubuhmm not sure about myth, the description is cryptic08:22
tonilpizzaTheSheep, i toched a file on /fonts08:22
tonilpizzaand fonts doesnt give error08:22
TheSheeptonilpizza: ok, touch all the rest08:23
Chikubuid say ill not find one, its very proprietary08:23
tonilpizzabut they are over 100!!!08:23
TheSheeptonilpizza: save the output of fc-cache to a file by adding '> /tmp/direcotries.txt' at the end08:23
TheSheeptonilpizza: then edit that list08:23
TheSheeptonilpizza: so that it only contains the paths08:24
godlesstonilpizza:  pipe the errors into a file and then edit the list adding touch at the beginning of the path08:24
godlessthen run the script08:24
godlessTheSheep is on top of things :)08:24
TheSheeptonilpizza: then do 'sudo touch $(cat /tmp/directories.txt) '08:24
tonilpizzaTheSheep, im trying to08:25
TheSheeptonilpizza: the problem is that for some reason these directories have their last modification date in the future08:25
Grey_Loki<3 linux scripting of boring tasks08:25
tonilpizzaTheSheep, the big problem, is that i have to edit each line by hand08:26
tonilpizzaand this is gonna take forever08:26
TheSheeptonilpizza: ok, let me see08:26
godlesstonilpizza:  I don't know what your directories.txt looks like but you might be able to do a big find/replace08:27
TheSheeptonilpizza: genereate that file, and then do 'sudo sed -i -e 's/:.*$//g'08:27
TheSheeptonilpizza: that should do it08:27
godless<3 sed08:28
Grey_Lokiman sed08:28
Grey_LokiErm...wrong window08:28
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TheSheep!man sed08:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about man sed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:28
godlessalthough I can't come up with the commands that fast :)08:28
TheSheepbleh :)08:28
tonilpizzaok thank TheSheep08:28
TheSheeptonilpizza: ah, sorry08:29
TheSheeptonilpizza: you need to addtthe /tmp/directories.txt at the ed of that sed command :)08:29
tonilpizzai did and i got only this: >08:29
TheSheepsudo sed -i -e 's/:.*$//g' /tmp/directories.txt08:30
TheSheeptonilpizza: I'm sorry, I didn't close the quote08:30
tonilpizzaTheSheep, thanks but the commnd does nothing08:31
TheSheeptonilpizza: look into the file now08:31
tonilpizzai did, is like before..08:31
tonilpizzan chamge08:31
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TheSheeptonilpizza: it worked for me08:32
tonilpizzahold a sec08:32
tonilpizzait idnt work because i lready edited the file08:32
tonilpizzanot i try again08:32
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tonilpizzaTheSheep, it works, not what should i do?08:33
TheSheep'sudo touch $(cat /tmp/directories.txt)'08:34
tonilpizzathanks TheSheep  is working08:34
tonilpizzai jet home08:34
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vidd_laptopis it possible to map the windows key so that if you hit it, it will open the <applications> menu?09:12
TheSheepvidd_laptop: yes09:13
TheSheepvidd_laptop: map it to 'xfdesktop --menu'09:13
TheSheepvidd_laptop: there is also something like xfce-menu-popup to open the menu at where the menu button is09:15
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vidd_laptopso rather then make a new shortcut...ill use the one already in place09:16
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vidd_laptopif i map special characters to my keyboard, will they "carry over" when im accessing my headless box via ssh?09:19
TheSheepvidd_laptop: no09:20
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TheSheepvidd_laptop: unless you're running xfwm4 via ssh09:20
vidd_laptopis there a way map keys via command line that will be universal on the desktop and any tty?09:23
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TheSheepI don't think so09:23
TheSheepyou can make your own key map09:25
TheSheepboth for the console and for X09:25
vidd_laptopif i make a keymap for the console, will THAT carry over through ssh?09:25
TheSheepvidd_laptop: ssh carries characters, not keypresses09:26
TheSheepvidd_laptop: so, you can eve copy-paste a password with weird characters :)09:26
vidd_laptopso if i have <ctrl><alt><shift><q> mapped to the Euro symbol, then when i press that key combination, then my server will get the euro symbol?09:28
TheSheepvidd_laptop: yes09:37
TheSheepvidd_laptop: I thought you were talking about the xfwm4 shortcut settings09:37
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Eludias__How do I type a normal  (as one character) in xubuntu? I tend to get special characters without wanting (f.e. pressing  and c will produce )09:39
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Eludias__lucky you :)09:42
Eludias__I have to press  twice to get one .09:42
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vidd_laptopTheSheep, where do we find the keymapper?09:44
Eludias__Time to inspect xorg.conf... (since even xterm is acting funny and wants to compose all my keys)09:45
Eludias__What do you have in /etc/X11/xorg.conf for Xkb* options?09:50
Eludias__Thx. Will disable my XkbVariant.09:52
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Eludiasahhh, that's better. Typing " will get me a " :)09:55
vidd_laptopthat is good....i think09:56
vidd_laptop=] 09:56
EludiasFor fun, set Option  "XkbVariant"    "intl"09:59
EludiasYour shell won't be the same.09:59
TheSheepEludias: depends on what you set aas the 'compose' key10:01
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EludiasI don't know, but the keys \' and \" started acting funny.10:01
EludiasSo those are the compose keys?10:01
Eludias' + c would give c-cedille.10:01
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TheSheepEludias: thats how meta+' works for me :)10:03
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Gerrohmm webcam still not working, I tried reinstalling uvcvideo driver10:22
Gerrosome people in forum reported it working10:22
GerroI got this usb microdia cam10:22
Gerroit keeps saying10:22
Gerroioctl: VIDIOC_REQBUFS(count=1;type=VIDEO_CAPTURE;memory=MMAP): Invalid argument ioctl: VIDIOC_DQBUF(index=0;type=VIDEO_CAPTURE;bytesused=0;flags=0x0 [] ;field=ANY;;timecode.type=0;timecode.flags=0;timecode.frames=0;timecode.seconds=0;timecode.minutes=0;timecode.hours=0;timecode.userbits="";sequence=0;memory=unknown): Invalid argument capturing image failed10:22
Gerroso no clue really10:22
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xubuntureleases - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:23
PumpernickelWhich release are you using?10:25
Gerrooh feisty10:25
GerroPumpernickel: you use a webcam?10:26
Pumpernickelbug 7745610:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 77456 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Logitech Quickcam Fusion doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7745610:29
PumpernickelNope, I don't.10:29
Gerrowhat is that bug?10:30
PumpernickelAnyway, the bug was reported against a different model, but the error seems similar.10:30
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Gerrowell it says there are different methods of accessing a webcam and that I should try mmap method10:33
Gerrobut it mentions mmap here ";memory=MMAP): Invalid argument" in error output10:34
Gerrothink I just don't have spca5xx working right10:34
Gerrocan't find my cam there10:34
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PumpernickelThe other error messages have the same section.10:35
Gerrohmm yuyv sn9c21110:36
Gerrohow do I install sn9c211?10:36
Gerrooh nvm that name of bridge10:36
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Gerrogoing to try installing gspcav1-20070508.tar.gz10:40
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TaggartShouldn't xubuntu 7.04 have "out-of-the-box" wireless support?10:44
Taggartbecause I installed it yesterday, and my wireless card is not working, is there something I have to do10:44
rukssoooo i still cant figure out this wireless situation,checked everything and drivers are installed and router is being picked up10:44
rukshey ur havin the same problem10:44
Taggart(I know I can install pcmcia-cs or RealTek's driverset, but isn't feisty fawn supposed to be aboeve that)10:45
Taggartruks - what have people suggested you do?10:45
ruksgo the to wifi wiki on the site10:45
ruksis all i have heard10:46
ruksu could use10:46
ruksbut i shouldnt need it10:46
ruksit uses the window driver in nix10:46
Gerroruks: fix resolve.conf?10:46
ruksim sorry im new here i dont know what u asked me :(10:47
Gerroruks: if you can ping your router then most likely its dns issue10:47
ruksi can connect fine in windows,all other comps are fine10:47
Gerroruks: do updatedb as root then locate resolve.conf make sure it isn't blank and is writeable10:47
Gerroruks: this isn't windows or all other comps though10:47
Taggartiwconfig doesn't even recognize my WPC11 card :-\10:47
GerroTaggart: do lspci to find out what card you have10:47
Gerroif you do use ndiswrapper grab it from ndiswrapper site, its constantly being updated and ndiswrapper in repository is old10:48
Gerroyou'll need gcc and g++ as well as linux kernel headers to compile it10:48
ruksi have it,so should i burn it and upload it to linux then unpack it etc?10:49
TaggartEthernet controller: Realtek Semiconducter Co. Ltd. RTL8180L 802.11b MAC (rev 20)...now...how can I get xubuntu to recognize it with iwconfig?10:49
Gerrodo make uninstall to remove old ndiswrapper stuff10:49
Gerroruks: umm burn it?10:49
rukswell i downloaded the files in windows10:49
GerroTaggart: umm no clue what card that is.. rev 20!?10:49
Taggartsays lspci10:50
Taggartits a WPC11 linksys router...v4 with a Realtek chipset10:50
GerroTaggart: don't need to know router just your linux box10:50
Pumpernickelbug 3371410:51
ubotuLaunchpad bug 33714 in linux-source-2.6.15 "r818x not working" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/3371410:51
TaggartGerro: So what info do you want from lspci?10:51
PumpernickelTaggart: You may want to investigate that bug report.10:51
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GerroTaggart: use the driver this site lists http://www.zoxx.net/notes/index.php/2006/11/24/31-realtek-8180l-with-ndiswrapper-on-debian-gnu-linux or check the ndiswrapper wiki10:52
cheeseboyhow do i add samba location?10:52
Gerrocheeseboy: don't know, try using a samba client gui until your more proficient?10:52
cheeseboywhats one?10:53
Gerrosynaptic lists several10:53
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TaggartGerro: so use the windows drivers instead of the linux drivers?  That seams kind of counter-intuitive :P10:54
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GerroTaggart: you need the .inf and .sys information from the windows driver to get ndiswrapper working10:54
TaggartGerro: even though Realtek offers linux drivers for the card (http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=5&PFid=5&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true) I should still use ndiswrapper?10:55
GerroTaggart: yeah but you the smart ass wanting to use ndiswrapper :P10:56
GerroTaggart: if the default driver is bugged you could try reinstall, maybe you can fix it some how. Forum might be helpful10:56
TaggartGerro: I was looking for a way to not use ndiswrapper, i was trying to figure out how to get it to work with the pre-installed Feisty Fawn wireless drivers - I haven't even tried the linux driverset yet10:57
GerroTaggart: that stuff regarding ndiswrapper earlier was to ruks10:58
Gerrobut he is afk right now10:58
GerroI got you two confused10:58
Taggartohhh, ok10:58
Gerroruks: yeah that one method some told you to use is firmware cutter method probably, gives very laggy and poor range results. I would stick to ndiswrapper for better performance10:58
GerroTaggart: I'm a bit sleepy and water logged was swimming in pool for while10:59
TaggartGerro: haha, it's cool10:59
Taggartso, if I wanted to go about using the built-in Feisty Fawn wireless drivers for my RTL8180L card...how would I go about doing that? Because it's not picking it up on iwconfig10:59
cheeseboyGerro can u tell me one synaptic freezes11:00
GerroTaggart: use applications >> System >> Network11:00
Gerrocheeseboy: synaptic freezes!? is the password screen stuck behind it perhaps?11:00
Gerrocheeseboy: that is very odd glitch have you tried apt-get install synaptic -reinstall11:00
cheeseboyno just when i search11:01
TaggartGerro: only a modem connection shows up in Network Settings...11:01
cheeseboymy pc is very old11:01
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Gerrocheeseboy: no offense but have you tried a text based linux system? or blackbox maybe? damnsmall linux isn't too shabby either11:02
cheeseboyit runs fine for what i do11:02
Gerrooh ok11:02
cheeseboyi just need samba for more space11:02
TaggartGerro: Should there be a wifi connection setting under network settings...because there's just modem connection11:04
Gerrojags, smb2www, tksmb,, hmm don't really know11:04
GerroTaggart: yeah but its probably missing because you don't have its alias set in the network configuration11:05
Gerrotaggart: normally that is automatically set11:05
TaggartGerro: so how would I manually set that?11:05
GerroTaggart: if you are doing ndiswrapper method usually when it does -m option that sets an alias directive11:05
GerroI have no clue really11:05
GerroI had bunch of trouble with that using fedora and pissed me off11:06
TaggartGerro: I'd rather not use ndiswrapper if possible11:06
Gerrome too11:06
TaggartGerro: I'm gonna try installing Realtek's drivers11:06
GerroI'm just trying to remember where those things are stored at11:06
Gerroyeah try that :)11:06
Gerrowell gotta go ok people11:06
viddTaggart, what is the chipset?11:06
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Taggartvidd: Realtek 818011:10
Taggartvidd: i'm running xubuntu 7.04 and it's not working "out-of-box" for wireless as I was told it does11:11
Taggartnetwork settings doesn't have a wireless connection, iwconfig doesn't recognize it, firefox and wifiradar are blank11:11
vidddid you take it out and re-insert it?11:11
Taggartgimme a sec11:11
TaggartI just did, nothing11:12
=== vidd has had an issue with pcmcia cards not being recognized at boot
vidddoes it work on any other system?11:12
Taggartnever tried, I don't have any windows machines with pcmcia ports11:13
viddwhat about linux?11:13
Taggartonly pcmcia port in my house is in this box11:13
viddis this a new card?11:14
Taggart(this = laptop at my right, not this computer)11:14
Taggartyes it is11:14
Taggartlspci picks it out11:14
viddwhat does lspci say it is?11:14
TaggartRealtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8180L 802.11b MAC (rev 20)11:15
Taggartunder Ethernet Controller11:15
=== vidd is trying to remember what the driver is called....
viddyou may want to modprobe it11:15
Taggartwhat's modprobe?11:16
Taggartis the command just "modprobe"?11:16
viddit is the command used to initialize drivers after boot11:16
viddmodprobe {modual name}11:16
TaggartI didn't install any of my own drivers, i was told feisty fawn has them included11:17
viddlike if you had a broadcom bcm43xx card, the command would be sudo modprobe bcm43xx11:17
Taggartand if it does, what's the module name?11:17
viddtry a re-boot11:17
Taggartoh, ok11:17
TaggartTheoretically, I can do this without installing outside drivers, correct?11:18
viddyes...in theory11:18
Taggartthat'd be nice11:18
=== vidd thinks the issue is that there are 2 drivers fighting to control the card
TaggartI hope the better one wins11:18
viddif that is the case, you will need to blacklist one of them11:19
viddanother possible cause is that the correct driver is on the blacklist11:20
Taggartther is a window on boot "The configuration could not be loaded: You are not allowed to access the system configuration"11:20
Taggartand iwconfig is still empty11:20
Taggartwith some googling I think the driver is called "r818x" - should i modprobe it?11:21
viddsudo modprobe r818x11:22
Taggartwlan0 picked up11:22
Taggarton iwconfig11:22
viddalso go to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and see if it is on the blacklist11:22
viddif it is listed on the blacklist, you may want to try removing it and rebooting to see if it auto loads....11:24
Taggartnice, thank you very much11:24
viddotherwise you are going to have to sudo modprobe on every boot11:24
Taggartthat'd be not fun11:24
Taggartit won't let me save it11:24
viddyou just and a script to your init.d to do it for you11:25
Taggartso i'm kinda new to linux, how would I do that?11:25
viddis the modual there on your blacklist?11:25
Taggartyes, it is11:25
viddclose the editor WITHOUT saving....11:25
viddyou cant save in currebnt mode....11:26
vidd] then from command lin, type sudo mousepad /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist11:26
Taggartgotcha, ok, thank you again11:26
viddyou can replace mousepad with your prefered editor11:26
viddthen remove item, save, reboot, pray11:27
vidd=] 11:27
viddpray is optional11:27
vidd=] 11:27
Taggartit's rebooting right now11:27
vidddo we have contact?11:29
Taggartjust a second11:29
viddsorry i didnt help earlier...was chatting in another room11:30
Taggarthaha, no worries, thanks again, you were quite helpful11:30
viddglad i caught the tail end of your convo before you ndiswrapper'd it11:31
Taggartvery much so11:31
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Taggartis wpa supplicant already installed?11:53
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Taggartwifi radar is all of a sudden not picking anything up, and modprobing r818x isn't doing anything\11:57
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Taggartand when running wifi radar terminal says "wlan0  Failed to read scan data : Operation not permitted"11:59
viddTaggart, sorry...that i cannot answer...i dont use wpa12:03
viddwas it working before removing the modual from the blacklist and rebooting?12:07
Taggartit was working after as well12:08
Taggartbut out of nowhere, nothing loads12:08
vidddid you install something (like wifi radar or wpa supplicant)?12:09
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