[12:26] <tanlaan> Hello everyone
[12:27] <TheSheep> hi tanlaan
[12:28] <equinoxe> hy there...
[12:29] <TheSheep> hi equinoxe
[12:29] <equinoxe> I've seen something strange
[12:29] <tanlaan> Apparently I have distro 6.06, think I should do a distro upgrade to the newest 7.04 *I think*
[12:29] <equinoxe> if I'm adding sudo
[12:29] <equinoxe> in front of a launcher command
[12:29] <equinoxe> I don't get any passwort promt
[12:30] <tanlaan> have you already put it in once before?
[12:30] <equinoxe> I can start a root terminal
[12:30] <tanlaan> *in the session*
[12:30] <TheSheep> equinoxe: sudo is a command line command, use gksu instead
[12:30] <equinoxe> no
[12:30] <tanlaan> you sure?
[12:30] <tanlaan> as in you have used sudo before
[12:30] <equinoxe> I'll reboot
[12:30] <equinoxe> to test it
[12:30] <equinoxe> again
[12:30] <tanlaan> okk
[12:30] <equinoxe> brb
[12:39] <blizz> is there any reason why my flashplayer doesnt support fullscreen mode although it should according to the version number?
[12:40] <blizz> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/full_screen_mode.html
[12:41] <TheSheep> blizz: maybe it's about the windows version?
[12:41] <equinoxe> I'm back.... sudo in launcher stuff
[12:41] <equinoxe> after reboot, everything seems ok
[12:42] <equinoxe> I just can't remember what I did
[12:42] <TheSheep> equinoxe: better use gksu instead of sudo
[12:42] <blizz> http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flash_Player:9:Update:Full-Screen_Mode:Demos (it says linux updated shipped, but doesnt state if fullscreen mode was included)
[12:42] <blizz> hmm
[12:42] <equinoxe> It's not about me
[12:42] <equinoxe> :)
[12:42] <equinoxe> I can use gksu
[12:42] <equinoxe> but I do not want anyone else
[12:42] <equinoxe> to use sudo
[12:43] <equinoxe> and break things :)
[12:43] <equinoxe> I suppose I entered the root
[12:43] <equinoxe> password at least once
[12:43] <TheSheep> equinoxe: well, sudo will ask you for your password only the first time
[12:43] <equinoxe> until it happend
[12:43] <TheSheep> equinoxe: then after some time
[12:43] <tanlaan> haha
[12:43] <equinoxe> :)
[12:43] <tanlaan> thats what I thought
[12:43] <equinoxe> oh well
[12:43] <TheSheep> equinoxe: I think 2 minutes or minute, or something like that
[12:44] <blizz> Flash Player 9.0.31.0 for Linux includes all of the features from Flash Player 9.0.28.0 except for windowless mode and full-screen mode.
[12:44] <equinoxe> it seems odd to me
[12:44] <blizz> hooray.
[12:44] <equinoxe> I had ubuntu installed
[12:44] <equinoxe> until today
[12:44] <equinoxe> when I swtched to xubuntu
[12:44] <equinoxe> and... it just promted me
[12:44] <equinoxe> for everything
[12:44] <TheSheep> equinoxe: it's the same in ubuntu
[12:44] <equinoxe> hope so.
[12:52] <Catoptromancy> http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/1554/xfmediascreenshotny3.png
[12:52] <Catoptromancy> All other formats work, divx, wmv
[12:52] <Catoptromancy> none of my mp3s works
[12:53] <TheSheep> Catoptromancy: other than what? the screenshot is not very infomrative...
[12:53] <Catoptromancy> I click mp3 files
[12:53] <Catoptromancy> get that message
[12:53] <Catoptromancy> I didnt move directory around
[12:54] <Catoptromancy> they just stopped working
[12:54] <Catoptromancy> I know error is not very informative
[12:54] <Catoptromancy> but that screenshot is pretty much all it says
[12:54] <Catoptromancy> everything else seems to work
[12:54] <Catoptromancy> mp3 seems to laod fine
[12:55] <Catoptromancy> but doesnt autoplay, and clicking to play from playlist gives error
[12:57] <TheSheep> Catoptromancy: you have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[12:58] <Catoptromancy> ya
[12:59] <TheSheep> Catoptromancy: you're running feisty or gutsy?
[12:59] <Catoptromancy> fesity
[01:00] <tanlaan> how do I upgrade my distro?
[01:00] <Catoptromancy> tanlaan, menu > system > update manager
[01:01] <tanlaan> thanks
[01:18] <OGDA> is there some way to use xfire in linux?
[01:33] <emdash> i know xfce has a compositor, but i can't seem to find the control panel
[01:39] <R[a] ndom> do you have compositing turned on in xorg?
[01:41] <R[a] ndom> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_xfce4#Composite to enable it in the config file if you have to
[01:41] <R[a] ndom> don't remember, its been a while since I've messed with it
[01:44] <emdash> hm
[01:44] <emdash> i remember a having a checkbox to enable it, but it was too slow
[01:47] <emdash> oic
[01:47] <emdash> it totally doesn't work with the restricted ati drivers
[04:03] <buntu> anybody on nvidia 100 series driver?
[04:05] <buntu> i get api mismatch error, latest restricted module package is 2.6.20-16.28, whereas latest generic image and headers are 2.6.20-16.29- could this be the cause?
[04:12] <buntu> anybody on nvidia 100 series driver? i get api mismatch error, latest restricted module package is 2.6.20-16.28, whereas latest generic image and headers are 2.6.20-16.29- could this be the cause?
[04:15] <j1mc|laptop> buntu: if i recall correctly, sometimes the kernel gets updated before binary driver makes can update their driver to be compatible with the new kernel.
[04:15] <j1mc|laptop> s/makes/makers
[04:15] <j1mc|laptop> it's something you risk when using non-free drivers.
[04:16] <odat> anyone know how to set permissions for a user through the command line?
[05:34] <Graelb> Hello
[05:35] <Graelb> Don't suppose anyone has had problems with installing vmware tools on a guest debian installation?
[05:35] <BFTD> nope
[05:37] <Graelb> Hrm... i'm having issues with the kernel-headers
[05:37] <Graelb> sucks, i can't find it anywhere online in forums
[05:37] <j1mc|laptop> what is the problem, Graelb?
[05:38] <Graelb> I'm trying to install VMware-tools on a guest installation in vmachine on windows... it's debian... not ubuntu
[05:40] <Graelb> anyway, i run the installation file, and it gets to the part where it's looking for the directory of C header files
[05:40] <Graelb> it offers /usr/src/linux/include
[05:41] <Graelb> uname -r pushes out 2.6.18-4-k7...
[05:41] <Graelb> and in /usr/src, there's a dir: linux-headers-2.6.18-d-k7... so i point to that directory
[05:43] <crimsun> meaning linux-headers-2.6.18-4-k7?
[05:43] <Graelb> or, rather, i point the installation to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-3-k7/include ... and it says that the directory
[05:43] <crimsun> no
[05:43] <Graelb> yeah, typo
[05:43] <crimsun> 2.6.18-3-k7 != 2.6.18-4-k7
[05:44] <crimsun> according to http://packages.debian.org/stable/source/linux-2.6, you must use linux-headers-2.6.18-4-k7
[05:44] <Graelb> right... that's what i have
[05:44] <crimsun> in other words, you need to use linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:44] <crimsun> you have linux-headers-2.6.18-4-k7 installed?
[05:45] <crimsun> you should use /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build , then
[05:45] <Graelb> ok
[05:45] <Graelb> one second... i'll try it
[05:45] <Graelb> lol
[05:45] <crimsun> it should be a symlink to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-4-k7 anyhow
[05:46] <Graelb> what does that mean exactly? do i need to set up a symlink?
[05:48] <crimsun> no
[05:48] <crimsun> installing said package does it for you.
[05:49] <Graelb> when i type manually in: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-4-k7/include     ---it says the directory of kernel headers (version @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE) does not match your running kernel (2.6.18-4-k7). even if the module
[05:49] <Graelb> were to compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel
[05:50] <vidd_laptop> how to use rtorrent?
[05:50] <crimsun> why are you using /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-4-k7/include?
[05:50] <crimsun> why don't you use /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build ?
[05:51] <Graelb> maybe i'm just retarded... but do you mean type that in exactly? or replace build with something else?
[06:03] <alnokta> guys please.. i somehow managed to make the panel disappear..how can i get it back? :(
[06:29] <buntu> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490 + aaronp's comment with shell script got 100.14.09 nvidia drivers to work for me, if anyone was curious
[06:49] <BFTD> do any of you know how to import contacts from another email and into gmail?
[07:00] <Pumpernickel> BFTD: You can import in CSV format.
[07:05] <BFTD> yeah I did that
[08:38] <dsmith_> what are the lower limits to xubuntu?
[08:38] <dsmith_> P2?
[08:39] <dsmith_> min. requirements only says about RAM
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> I'm going to try it on a PI actually.
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> With 128 RAM
[08:39] <dsmith_> heh
[08:43] <dsmith_> gn
[11:41] <logmein> what up people
[01:07] <benpicco> Hi, how can I get xubuntu using a proxy for every internet related apps?
[01:09] <benpicco> the internet connection runs over a html proxy here, this causes problems with programs without proxy settings
[01:09] <benpicco> and I don want to configure every single program, too...
[01:14] <Thirdy__> !distro
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <Thirdy__> !linux-distro
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-distro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <Thirdy__> wats the channel for distros?
[01:14] <Pumpernickel> You're in a distributions channel.
[01:14] <Pumpernickel> Specifically, you're in the channel for the Xubuntu distribution.
[01:15] <Thirdy__> ok, I need a super fast distro but ubuntu easy to install
[01:16] <Thirdy__> I tried freespire and first boot, it broke already
[01:17] <Thirdy__> so I just want a small distro download and easy to install
[01:17] <Pumpernickel> Try them all.
[01:18] <Thirdy__> Pumpernickel, how do I remove grub?
[01:18] <Thirdy__> I have 2 hd
[01:18] <Pumpernickel> You don't, usually.
[01:19] <Pumpernickel> You need a boot manager of some type, and Grub is default for most modern distributions.
[01:20] <benpicco> !proxy
[01:20] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[01:20] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[01:20] <benpicco> hmm..
[01:21] <Thirdy> am I connected now?
[01:22] <Pumpernickel> Nope.
[01:25] <Thirdy> ok will fdisk /MBR work?
[01:26] <Thirdy> I need to remove GRUB
[01:26] <Pumpernickel> Err, why?
[01:27] <Pumpernickel> Grub isn't something to be trivially removed.
[01:27] <Thirdy> Pumpernickel, I plan to use BIOS as my boot manager
[01:27] <Thirdy> It's easier to use
[01:28] <Thirdy> just tell BIOS to not detect XP hd, then boot with the linux hd
[01:28] <Thirdy> I have two hd's
[01:29] <Thirdy> then I can easily follow the DSL installation how to
[01:32] <helpme> Hello. My Wifi router is a Motorola Canopy. I was wondering how i can set it up for Torrent use.
[01:33] <helpme> When i use XP it works fine w/ regards to torrents but when im on xubuntu or ubuntu it wont work.
[03:28] <logmein> I got xubuntu installed but I have a second hard drive that I wanted to try fluxbox on
[03:28] <logmein> fluxbuntu I mean
[03:28] <logmein> so like what guide should I read? most seem to be about using windows with linux
[03:30] <Pumpernickel> It's a lot easier using linux with linux.
[03:30] <logmein> so should I just install and not worry about things?
[03:30] <Pumpernickel> That's the simplest solution.
[03:30] <logmein> but which will be the default OS
[03:30] <Pumpernickel> The latest to be installed.
[03:31] <logmein> I like how it auto boots up into xubuntu though
[03:31] <Pumpernickel> You can configure that easily enough.
[03:31] <logmein> oh well I'll give it a go
[03:31] <logmein> thx
[03:31] <logmein> by the way what your opinion on fluxbuntu anyway? is it still in heavy testing?
[03:32] <joejaxx> :)
[03:32] <joejaxx> yes it is
[03:32] <logmein> someone went on #fluxbuntu asking about how to edit keymapping and stuff...
[03:33] <logmein> so I don't know if I should turn back now or what :)
[03:40] <abo0> hello, i'm having wireless problems, anybody can help ?
[03:43] <abo0> trying to configure it using standard xubuntu network manager, gives me no errors wirelss card says it's connected but i get no ip
[04:17] <JoKo> Hi... I'm using the text installer to install Xubuntu. Unfortunately, some packages are corrupt. Is it possible to download them during installation?
[04:20] <TheSheep> JoKo: you could use the minicd
[04:23] <TheSheep> !install | JoKo
[04:23] <ubotu> JoKo: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[05:39] <ruks> ummm...i need help
[05:40] <TheSheep> !ask | ruks
[05:40] <ubotu> ruks: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:41] <ruks> i installed ubuntu the newest release
[05:41] <ruks> dual boot with xp
[05:41] <ruks> it says my wireless is roaming,but i cant connect
[05:41] <ruks> i read the thread about ndiswrapper
[05:41] <ruks> but im kinda lost
[05:42] <ruks> its the x64amd version
[05:42] <TheSheep> I helpless here, I have virtually no experience with wireless, maybe the standard docs will help:
[05:42] <TheSheep> !wifi | ruks
[05:42] <ubotu> ruks: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:43] <ruks> ok ill check it out
[05:43] <ruks> thanks
[05:45] <ruks> where do i type in commands at?
[05:46] <TheSheep> ruks: accessories->terminal
[05:46] <ruks> got ya
[06:46] <vidd_laptop> how do you send a message to another user that is logged in via ssh with cli?
[06:51] <TheSheep> vidd_laptop: man talk
[06:51] <godless> vidd_laptop:  uhm.. wall sends a message to everyone logged in, I think you can use talk for a specific user
[06:51] <godless> yeah
[06:51] <godless> or write
[06:52] <godless> write works here, not talk
[06:53] <TheSheep> or just check which pty he uses with finger, and do 'echo hello > /dev/pty/XXX'
[06:58] <vidd_laptop> sweet....
[06:58] <vidd_laptop> thanks...the write command is the easiest i think
[07:35] <Chikubu> do all apps added using add/remove app control install to /usr/share/app-install ?  how can i get them to display a shortcut in the applications control of the desktop?  some do some dont
[07:38] <ruks> ok im back,and still dont understand
[07:38] <ruks> :(
[07:39] <ruks> i looked thru all the wifi stuff and all that and it seems i should use ndiswrapper looks the easiest but im confused as to how to install it and where
[07:40] <godless> Chikubu:  What do you mean by 'applications control'?
[07:40] <godless> You want a shortcut in the applications menu?
[07:41] <Chikubu> the add/remove applications program like the synaptic one, but not named that
[07:42] <Chikubu> when i use add remove apps to add programs, they dont always make a shortcut, do they all go to the same folder /usr/share/app-install? and yes how can i get them to appear under applications as a shortcut
[07:43] <Chikubu> as they dont make a shortcut, im not sure were they are, unless they are going to that same folder
[07:43] <godless> most things go in /usr/bin
[07:43] <godless> you can find an application by the cmd 'type app_name'
[07:44] <godless> ie: rob@silver:~$ type bchunk
[07:44] <godless> bchunk is /usr/bin/bchunk
[07:44] <Chikubu> assumes i can remeber the name :)
[07:44] <godless> if you right-click on the applications menu button you can 'edit menu'
[07:45] <godless> well you're going to need to know the name to make a shortcut :)
[07:45] <godless> I'm not to clear on how to edit the application menu though, I find it much easier to make launchers
[07:46] <Chikubu> thats why i was hoping they went to same folder so i coudl find them lol
[07:47] <godless> look in /usr/bin
[07:47] <godless> lots of stuff there though
[07:47] <Chikubu> abunch end up in app-install, ill look in usr/bin
[07:48] <Chikubu> actual its /usr/share/app-install/desktop most seem to be going too
[07:48] <Chikubu> ive download a bunch of samba tools and cant remember all their names ugg
[07:51] <Chikubu> ruks - i just spent some time getting my wirless working, does the wireless adaptor show in the network control under system?
[07:52] <godless> Chikubu:  try apropos samba
[07:52] <godless> or man samba
[07:52] <godless> which lists a lot of associated programs, which you can then man :)
[07:53] <Chikubu> k
[07:53] <TheSheep> they go to /usr/share/applications or ~./local/share/applications
[07:54] <Chikubu> the apropos helped what is that coommand?
[07:54] <TheSheep> Chikubu: it sreaches the man pages for given word
[07:55] <TheSheep> searches
[07:55] <tonilpizza> hi everyone
[07:55] <Chikubu> it missed a few
[07:55] <tonilpizza> i have a big problem with xubuntu
[07:55] <tonilpizza> when i install something i get alot of fonconfig cache errors
[07:55] <tonilpizza> ho can i fix
[07:55] <tonilpizza> moreover xubuntu panel doesnt start with the latest kernel
[07:55] <tonilpizza> but only with 15
[07:56] <Chikubu> thanx, that is a command i should know :)
[07:56] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: what errors?
[07:57] <tonilpizza> updating fontconfig-cahce errors
[07:57] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: but what do they say exactly?
[07:57] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: maybe you're out of you disk space in your root partition?
[07:57] <tonilpizza> it tries to update each one and each one fails
[07:58] <tonilpizza> imposible, i've 15Gb
[07:59] <tonilpizza> faild to write cache
[07:59] <Grey_Loki> I've just reinstalled Windows XP (and hence, GRUB, too), but now after reconfiguring GRUB as I had the last time I reinstalled XP (i.e, the day before yesterday), loading Windows loads GRUB stage 2 and sends me back to the GRUB OS selection menu. I can load Xubuntu just fine. What could've changed?
[07:59] <tonilpizza> ttf-opensymbol was the cause..i installed openoffice..
[07:59] <tonilpizza> it tries to regenerate font cache
[08:00] <TheSheep> Grey_Loki: what is your menu.lst entry for windows?
[08:00] <tonilpizza> but keep failing..
[08:00] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: try 'sudo fc-cache -frv'
[08:00] <Grey_Loki> TheSheep, shall I pastebin my entire menu.lst for you to peruse?
[08:01] <TheSheep> Grey_Loki: yes, please
[08:01] <tonilpizza> TheSheep, many failed to write cache
[08:01] <tonilpizza> but some does go
[08:01] <Grey_Loki> TheSheep, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25424/
[08:02] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: can you pastebin part of the output?
[08:02] <tonilpizza> TheSheep, how can i copy and paste
[08:02] <tonilpizza> /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1: failed to write cache
[08:02] <tonilpizza> example
[08:02] <Grey_Loki> TheSheep, that configuration (as far as I can tell, anyway) worked fine a few days ago, and I haven't made any major system changes since. 'df -l' shows sda1 as (hd0,0), and sda2 (windows) as what should be (hd0,1).
[08:03] <tonilpizza> fc-cache: failed
[08:03] <tonilpizza> last message
[08:03] <TheSheep> Grey_Loki: you have your windows installed on hda2 ?
[08:03] <TheSheep> Grey_Loki: ah, ok
[08:03] <Grey_Loki> :)
[08:03] <Grey_Loki> Would you like the output of df -l to confirm?
[08:04] <TheSheep> Grey_Loki: is that sda2 a primary partition?
[08:04] <TheSheep> ok, it is, soryr
[08:04] <TheSheep> I don't think today
[08:04] <Grey_Loki> TheSheep, I don't know - how can I check?
[08:05] <TheSheep> Grey_Loki: partitions 1-4 are primary :)
[08:05] <Chikubu> ne1 know about Xvnc?
[08:05] <TheSheep> Chikubu: what about it?
[08:05] <Grey_Loki> Haha, ok then
[08:06] <Chikubu> cant connect, says connection refused, not sure where the log jam is
[08:06] <tonilpizza> TheSheep, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25425/
[08:07] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: you skipped the most interesting part :)
[08:08] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: do these directories mentioned in 'failed to write cache' exist?
[08:08] <tonilpizza> i don't know
[08:08] <tonilpizza> but i know that dpkg fails so that i cant configure openoffice
[08:08] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: can you check if these directories exist?
[08:09] <tonilpizza> let me give a look
[08:09] <Chikubu> in config files is the format usualy something=something or something = something as in protocol=tcp or protocol = tcp?
[08:09] <Chikubu> or does it ignore spaces
[08:10] <TheSheep> Chikubu: not sure how xvnx does it, but traditionally spaces are ignored
[08:10] <Chikubu> ty
[08:11] <Grey_Loki> TheSheep, any thoughts on what I could be missing?
[08:12] <tonilpizza> TheSheep, do u know why with the new kernel xubuntu panel doesnt open?
[08:12] <tonilpizza> TheSheep, the dir exists
[08:12] <Chikubu> ugg i wonder if its the firewall
[08:12] <tonilpizza> i dunno why can't write then
[08:13] <Grey_Loki> I see in several guides that usually to resolve this sort of problem with grub, you run 'sudo grub' then 'root (hd0,0)' followed by 'setup (hd0). This worked last time, but now grub seems to launch itself again when selecting WinXP.
[08:13] <tonilpizza> Installazione di un pacchetto fallita. Tentativo di ripristino:
[08:13] <tonilpizza> Configuro ttf-opensymbol (2.2.0-1ubuntu3) ...
[08:13] <tonilpizza> Updating fontconfig cache...
[08:13] <tonilpizza> /usr/share/fonts: failed to write cache
[08:13] <tonilpizza> and so on
[08:14] <tonilpizza> all those dir are there and available
[08:16] <Grey_Loki> tonilpizza, are you doing this as root, or a normal user?
[08:16] <tonilpizza> as sudo
[08:16] <darrend> anyone had any problems with lockups?  Had one last night - complete keyboard/mouse/network shutout.
[08:17] <TheSheep> Grey_Loki: it looks correct, maybe the problem is with windows?
[08:17] <darrend> had to hard reboot (power off button)
[08:17] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: what does 'df' say?
[08:17] <TheSheep> darrend: they sometimes happen due to hardware failures or bugs in hardware drivers
[08:17] <darrend> but the apps appeared to keep running ok.. clocks and timers were updating normally, screensaver kicked in after 5 mins.
[08:18] <tonilpizza> that i am using 23% of the total space
[08:18] <TheSheep> darrend: especially if you use the binary drivers, like nvidia
[08:18] <darrend> TheSheep: mm.. I suspected the network module, but wondered why it would lock mouse/keyboard too
[08:18] <darrend> I do use nvidia
[08:18] <tonilpizza> TheSheep, im using 23% of /
[08:18] <darrend> in which case, why the network too
[08:18] <darrend> seemed odd..
[08:18] <Grey_Loki> TheSheep, I booted into windows fine after the initial setup, but since then i haven't been able to reach it to test. Would you say a(nother) reinstall would be worth a try?
[08:19] <TheSheep> darrend: can you try to do 'touch /tmp/somefile' ?
[08:19] <darrend> what now?  after I rebooted?
[08:19] <TheSheep> darrend: sorry, it was for tonilpizza
[08:19] <Chikubu> i have an old ati tv turner card in here, heard of any tuner apps for such a thing?
[08:19] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: can you try to do 'touch /tmp/somefile' ?
[08:19] <darrend> ah :)
[08:19] <TheSheep> Chikubu: mythtv?
[08:20] <tonilpizza> TheSheep, yes i did, no errors
[08:21] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: ok, try to 'touch' one of the directories with errors
[08:21] <tonilpizza> from sudo or from user
[08:21] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: then run fc-cach -vrf and see if that directory still errors
[08:21] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: from suod
[08:21] <TheSheep> sudo
[08:22] <TheSheep> if it disappeared from the error list, then I think I know what happened
[08:22] <Chikubu> hmm not sure about myth, the description is cryptic
[08:22] <tonilpizza> TheSheep, i toched a file on /fonts
[08:22] <tonilpizza> and fonts doesnt give error
[08:23] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: ok, touch all the rest
[08:23] <Chikubu> id say ill not find one, its very proprietary
[08:23] <tonilpizza> but they are over 100!!!
[08:23] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: save the output of fc-cache to a file by adding '> /tmp/direcotries.txt' at the end
[08:23] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: then edit that list
[08:24] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: so that it only contains the paths
[08:24] <godless> tonilpizza:  pipe the errors into a file and then edit the list adding touch at the beginning of the path
[08:24] <godless> then run the script
[08:24] <godless> TheSheep is on top of things :)
[08:24] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: then do 'sudo touch $(cat /tmp/directories.txt) '
[08:25] <tonilpizza> TheSheep, im trying to
[08:25] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: the problem is that for some reason these directories have their last modification date in the future
[08:25] <Grey_Loki> <3 linux scripting of boring tasks
[08:26] <tonilpizza> TheSheep, the big problem, is that i have to edit each line by hand
[08:26] <tonilpizza> and this is gonna take forever
[08:26] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: ok, let me see
[08:27] <godless> tonilpizza:  I don't know what your directories.txt looks like but you might be able to do a big find/replace
[08:27] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: genereate that file, and then do 'sudo sed -i -e 's/:.*$//g'
[08:27] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: that should do it
[08:28] <godless> <3 sed
[08:28] <Grey_Loki> man sed
[08:28] <Grey_Loki> Erm...wrong window
[08:28] <TheSheep> !man sed
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about man sed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <godless> although I can't come up with the commands that fast :)
[08:28] <TheSheep> bleh :)
[08:28] <tonilpizza> ok thank TheSheep
[08:29] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: ah, sorry
[08:29] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: you need to addtthe /tmp/directories.txt at the ed of that sed command :)
[08:29] <tonilpizza> i did and i got only this: >
[08:30] <TheSheep> sudo sed -i -e 's/:.*$//g' /tmp/directories.txt
[08:30] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: I'm sorry, I didn't close the quote
[08:31] <tonilpizza> TheSheep, thanks but the commnd does nothing
[08:31] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: look into the file now
[08:31] <tonilpizza> i did, is like before..
[08:31] <tonilpizza> n chamge
[08:32] <TheSheep> weird
[08:32] <TheSheep> tonilpizza: it worked for me
[08:32] <tonilpizza> hold a sec
[08:32] <tonilpizza> it idnt work because i lready edited the file
[08:32] <tonilpizza> not i try again
[08:33] <tonilpizza> TheSheep, it works, not what should i do?
[08:34] <TheSheep> 'sudo touch $(cat /tmp/directories.txt)'
[08:34] <tonilpizza> thanks TheSheep  is working
[08:34] <tonilpizza> i jet home
[09:12] <vidd_laptop> is it possible to map the windows key so that if you hit it, it will open the <applications> menu?
[09:13] <TheSheep> vidd_laptop: yes
[09:13] <TheSheep> vidd_laptop: map it to 'xfdesktop --menu'
[09:14] <vidd_laptop> ty
[09:15] <TheSheep> vidd_laptop: there is also something like xfce-menu-popup to open the menu at where the menu button is
[09:16] <vidd_laptop> so rather then make a new shortcut...ill use the one already in place
[09:19] <vidd_laptop> if i map special characters to my keyboard, will they "carry over" when im accessing my headless box via ssh?
[09:20] <TheSheep> vidd_laptop: no
[09:20] <TheSheep> vidd_laptop: unless you're running xfwm4 via ssh
[09:23] <vidd_laptop> is there a way map keys via command line that will be universal on the desktop and any tty?
[09:23] <TheSheep> I don't think so
[09:25] <TheSheep> you can make your own key map
[09:25] <TheSheep> both for the console and for X
[09:25] <vidd_laptop> if i make a keymap for the console, will THAT carry over through ssh?
[09:26] <TheSheep> vidd_laptop: ssh carries characters, not keypresses
[09:26] <TheSheep> vidd_laptop: so, you can eve copy-paste a password with weird characters :)
[09:28] <vidd_laptop> so if i have <ctrl><alt><shift><q> mapped to the Euro symbol, then when i press that key combination, then my server will get the euro symbol?
[09:37] <TheSheep> vidd_laptop: yes
[09:37] <vidd_laptop> cool
[09:37] <TheSheep> vidd_laptop: I thought you were talking about the xfwm4 shortcut settings
[09:39] <Eludias__> How do I type a normal  (as one character) in xubuntu? I tend to get special characters without wanting (f.e. pressing  and c will produce )
[09:42] <vidd_laptop> c'
[09:42] <Eludias__> lucky you :)
[09:42] <vidd_laptop> 'c
[09:42] <Eludias__> I have to press  twice to get one .
[09:43] <vidd_laptop> ''
[09:43] <Eludias__> 
[09:43] <vidd_laptop> hrm....
[09:44] <vidd_laptop> TheSheep, where do we find the keymapper?
[09:45] <Eludias__> Time to inspect xorg.conf... (since even xterm is acting funny and wants to compose all my keys)
[09:50] <Eludias__> What do you have in /etc/X11/xorg.conf for Xkb* options?
[09:50] <vidd_laptop> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25430/
[09:52] <Eludias__> Thx. Will disable my XkbVariant.
[09:55] <Eludias> ahhh, that's better. Typing " will get me a " :)
[09:56] <vidd_laptop> that is good....i think
[09:56] <vidd_laptop> =] 
[09:59] <Eludias> For fun, set Option  "XkbVariant"    "intl"
[09:59] <Eludias> Your shell won't be the same.
[10:00] <vidd_laptop> international...huh?
[10:01] <TheSheep> Eludias: depends on what you set aas the 'compose' key
[10:01] <Eludias> I don't know, but the keys \' and \" started acting funny.
[10:01] <Eludias> So those are the compose keys?
[10:01] <Eludias> ' + c would give c-cedille.
[10:03] <TheSheep> Eludias: thats how meta+' works for me :)
[10:22] <Gerro> hmm webcam still not working, I tried reinstalling uvcvideo driver
[10:22] <Gerro> some people in forum reported it working
[10:22] <Gerro> I got this usb microdia cam
[10:22] <Gerro> it keeps saying
[10:22] <Gerro> ioctl: VIDIOC_REQBUFS(count=1;type=VIDEO_CAPTURE;memory=MMAP): Invalid argument ioctl: VIDIOC_DQBUF(index=0;type=VIDEO_CAPTURE;bytesused=0;flags=0x0 [] ;field=ANY;;timecode.type=0;timecode.flags=0;timecode.frames=0;timecode.seconds=0;timecode.minutes=0;timecode.hours=0;timecode.userbits="";sequence=0;memory=unknown): Invalid argument capturing image failed
[10:22] <Gerro> so no clue really
[10:23] <Gerro> !xubuntureleases
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xubuntureleases - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <Gerro> hrm..
[10:25] <Pumpernickel> Which release are you using?
[10:25] <Gerro> oh feisty
[10:26] <Gerro> Pumpernickel: you use a webcam?
[10:29] <Pumpernickel> bug 77456
[10:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 77456 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Logitech Quickcam Fusion doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77456
[10:29] <Pumpernickel> Nope, I don't.
[10:30] <Gerro> what is that bug?
[10:30] <Pumpernickel> Anyway, the bug was reported against a different model, but the error seems similar.
[10:33] <Gerro> well it says there are different methods of accessing a webcam and that I should try mmap method
[10:34] <Gerro> but it mentions mmap here ";memory=MMAP): Invalid argument" in error output
[10:34] <Gerro> think I just don't have spca5xx working right
[10:34] <Gerro> can't find my cam there
[10:35] <Pumpernickel> The other error messages have the same section.
[10:36] <Gerro> hmm yuyv sn9c211
[10:36] <Gerro> how do I install sn9c211?
[10:36] <Gerro> oh nvm that name of bridge
[10:40] <Gerro> going to try installing gspcav1-20070508.tar.gz
[10:44] <Taggart> Shouldn't xubuntu 7.04 have "out-of-the-box" wireless support?
[10:44] <Taggart> because I installed it yesterday, and my wireless card is not working, is there something I have to do
[10:44] <ruks> soooo i still cant figure out this wireless situation,checked everything and drivers are installed and router is being picked up
[10:44] <ruks> hey ur havin the same problem
[10:45] <Taggart> (I know I can install pcmcia-cs or RealTek's driverset, but isn't feisty fawn supposed to be aboeve that)
[10:45] <Taggart> ruks - what have people suggested you do?
[10:45] <ruks> go the to wifi wiki on the site
[10:46] <ruks> is all i have heard
[10:46] <ruks> u could use
[10:46] <ruks> ndiswrapper
[10:46] <ruks> but i shouldnt need it
[10:46] <ruks> it uses the window driver in nix
[10:46] <Gerro> ruks: fix resolve.conf?
[10:47] <ruks> im sorry im new here i dont know what u asked me :(
[10:47] <Gerro> ruks: if you can ping your router then most likely its dns issue
[10:47] <ruks> i can connect fine in windows,all other comps are fine
[10:47] <Gerro> ruks: do updatedb as root then locate resolve.conf make sure it isn't blank and is writeable
[10:47] <Gerro> ruks: this isn't windows or all other comps though
[10:47] <Taggart> iwconfig doesn't even recognize my WPC11 card :-\
[10:47] <ruks> true
[10:47] <Gerro> Taggart: do lspci to find out what card you have
[10:48] <Gerro> if you do use ndiswrapper grab it from ndiswrapper site, its constantly being updated and ndiswrapper in repository is old
[10:48] <Gerro> you'll need gcc and g++ as well as linux kernel headers to compile it
[10:49] <ruks> i have it,so should i burn it and upload it to linux then unpack it etc?
[10:49] <Taggart> Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconducter Co. Ltd. RTL8180L 802.11b MAC (rev 20)...now...how can I get xubuntu to recognize it with iwconfig?
[10:49] <Gerro> do make uninstall to remove old ndiswrapper stuff
[10:49] <Gerro> ruks: umm burn it?
[10:49] <ruks> well i downloaded the files in windows
[10:49] <Gerro> Taggart: umm no clue what card that is.. rev 20!?
[10:50] <Taggart> says lspci
[10:50] <Taggart> its a WPC11 linksys router...v4 with a Realtek chipset
[10:50] <Gerro> Taggart: don't need to know router just your linux box
[10:50] <ruks> brb
[10:51] <Pumpernickel> bug 33714
[10:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 33714 in linux-source-2.6.15 "r818x not working" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/33714
[10:51] <Taggart> Gerro: So what info do you want from lspci?
[10:51] <Pumpernickel> Taggart: You may want to investigate that bug report.
[10:52] <cheeseboy> hi
[10:52] <Gerro> Taggart: use the driver this site lists http://www.zoxx.net/notes/index.php/2006/11/24/31-realtek-8180l-with-ndiswrapper-on-debian-gnu-linux or check the ndiswrapper wiki
[10:52] <cheeseboy> how do i add samba location?
[10:52] <Gerro> cheeseboy: don't know, try using a samba client gui until your more proficient?
[10:53] <cheeseboy> whats one?
[10:53] <Gerro> synaptic lists several
[10:54] <Taggart> Gerro: so use the windows drivers instead of the linux drivers?  That seams kind of counter-intuitive :P
[10:54] <Gerro> Taggart: you need the .inf and .sys information from the windows driver to get ndiswrapper working
[10:55] <Taggart> Gerro: even though Realtek offers linux drivers for the card (http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=5&PFid=5&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true) I should still use ndiswrapper?
[10:56] <Gerro> Taggart: yeah but you the smart ass wanting to use ndiswrapper :P
[10:56] <Gerro> Taggart: if the default driver is bugged you could try reinstall, maybe you can fix it some how. Forum might be helpful
[10:57] <Taggart> Gerro: I was looking for a way to not use ndiswrapper, i was trying to figure out how to get it to work with the pre-installed Feisty Fawn wireless drivers - I haven't even tried the linux driverset yet
[10:58] <Gerro> Taggart: that stuff regarding ndiswrapper earlier was to ruks
[10:58] <Gerro> but he is afk right now
[10:58] <Gerro> I got you two confused
[10:58] <Taggart> ohhh, ok
[10:58] <Gerro> ruks: yeah that one method some told you to use is firmware cutter method probably, gives very laggy and poor range results. I would stick to ndiswrapper for better performance
[10:59] <Gerro> Taggart: I'm a bit sleepy and water logged was swimming in pool for while
[10:59] <Taggart> Gerro: haha, it's cool
[10:59] <Taggart> so, if I wanted to go about using the built-in Feisty Fawn wireless drivers for my RTL8180L card...how would I go about doing that? Because it's not picking it up on iwconfig
[11:00] <cheeseboy> Gerro can u tell me one synaptic freezes
[11:00] <Gerro> Taggart: use applications >> System >> Network
[11:00] <Gerro> cheeseboy: synaptic freezes!? is the password screen stuck behind it perhaps?
[11:00] <Gerro> cheeseboy: that is very odd glitch have you tried apt-get install synaptic -reinstall
[11:01] <cheeseboy> no just when i search
[11:01] <Taggart> Gerro: only a modem connection shows up in Network Settings...
[11:01] <cheeseboy> my pc is very old
[11:02] <Gerro> cheeseboy: no offense but have you tried a text based linux system? or blackbox maybe? damnsmall linux isn't too shabby either
[11:02] <cheeseboy> it runs fine for what i do
[11:02] <Gerro> oh ok
[11:02] <cheeseboy> i just need samba for more space
[11:04] <Taggart> Gerro: Should there be a wifi connection setting under network settings...because there's just modem connection
[11:04] <Gerro> jags, smb2www, tksmb,, hmm don't really know
[11:05] <Gerro> Taggart: yeah but its probably missing because you don't have its alias set in the network configuration
[11:05] <Gerro> taggart: normally that is automatically set
[11:05] <Taggart> Gerro: so how would I manually set that?
[11:05] <Gerro> Taggart: if you are doing ndiswrapper method usually when it does -m option that sets an alias directive
[11:05] <Gerro> hmm..
[11:05] <Gerro> I have no clue really
[11:06] <Gerro> I had bunch of trouble with that using fedora and pissed me off
[11:06] <Taggart> Gerro: I'd rather not use ndiswrapper if possible
[11:06] <Gerro> me too
[11:06] <Taggart> Gerro: I'm gonna try installing Realtek's drivers
[11:06] <Gerro> I'm just trying to remember where those things are stored at
[11:06] <Gerro> yeah try that :)
[11:06] <Gerro> well gotta go ok people
[11:06] <Gerro> byes
[11:06] <vidd> Taggart, what is the chipset?
[11:10] <Taggart> vidd: Realtek 8180
[11:11] <Taggart> vidd: i'm running xubuntu 7.04 and it's not working "out-of-box" for wireless as I was told it does
[11:11] <vidd> pcmcia?
[11:11] <Taggart> network settings doesn't have a wireless connection, iwconfig doesn't recognize it, firefox and wifiradar are blank
[11:11] <Taggart> yup
[11:11] <vidd> did you take it out and re-insert it?
[11:11] <Taggart> gimme a sec
[11:12] <Taggart> I just did, nothing
[11:12] <vidd> does it work on any other system?
[11:13] <Taggart> never tried, I don't have any windows machines with pcmcia ports
[11:13] <vidd> what about linux?
[11:13] <Taggart> nope
[11:13] <Taggart> only pcmcia port in my house is in this box
[11:14] <vidd> is this a new card?
[11:14] <Taggart> (this = laptop at my right, not this computer)
[11:14] <Taggart> yes it is
[11:14] <vidd> hrm...
[11:14] <Taggart> lspci picks it out
[11:14] <vidd> what does lspci say it is?
[11:15] <Taggart> Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8180L 802.11b MAC (rev 20)
[11:15] <Taggart> under Ethernet Controller
[11:15] <vidd> you may want to modprobe it
[11:16] <Taggart> what's modprobe?
[11:16] <Taggart> is the command just "modprobe"?
[11:16] <vidd> it is the command used to initialize drivers after boot
[11:16] <vidd> modprobe {modual name}
[11:17] <Taggart> I didn't install any of my own drivers, i was told feisty fawn has them included
[11:17] <vidd> like if you had a broadcom bcm43xx card, the command would be sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[11:17] <Taggart> and if it does, what's the module name?
[11:17] <vidd> try a re-boot
[11:17] <Taggart> oh, ok
[11:17] <Taggart> ok
[11:18] <Taggart> Theoretically, I can do this without installing outside drivers, correct?
[11:18] <vidd> yes...in theory
[11:18] <Taggart> that'd be nice
[11:18] <Taggart> I hope the better one wins
[11:18] <Taggart> :P
[11:19] <vidd> lol
[11:19] <vidd> if that is the case, you will need to blacklist one of them
[11:20] <vidd> another possible cause is that the correct driver is on the blacklist
[11:20] <Taggart> ther is a window on boot "The configuration could not be loaded: You are not allowed to access the system configuration"
[11:20] <Taggart> ?
[11:20] <Taggart> and iwconfig is still empty
[11:21] <Taggart> with some googling I think the driver is called "r818x" - should i modprobe it?
[11:21] <vidd> yes
[11:22] <vidd> sudo modprobe r818x
[11:22] <Taggart> yay!
[11:22] <Taggart> wlan0 picked up
[11:22] <Taggart> on iwconfig
[11:22] <vidd> also go to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and see if it is on the blacklist
[11:23] <Taggart> ok
[11:24] <vidd> if it is listed on the blacklist, you may want to try removing it and rebooting to see if it auto loads....
[11:24] <Taggart> nice, thank you very much
[11:24] <vidd> otherwise you are going to have to sudo modprobe on every boot
[11:24] <Taggart> that'd be not fun
[11:24] <Taggart> it won't let me save it
[11:25] <vidd> you just and a script to your init.d to do it for you
[11:25] <Taggart> so i'm kinda new to linux, how would I do that?
[11:25] <vidd> is the modual there on your blacklist?
[11:25] <Taggart> yes, it is
[11:25] <vidd> ok....
[11:25] <vidd> close the editor WITHOUT saving....
[11:26] <vidd> you cant save in currebnt mode....
[11:26] <vidd> ] then from command lin, type sudo mousepad /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:26] <Taggart> gotcha, ok, thank you again
[11:26] <vidd> you can replace mousepad with your prefered editor
[11:27] <vidd> then remove item, save, reboot, pray
[11:27] <vidd> =] 
[11:27] <vidd> pray is optional
[11:27] <vidd> =] 
[11:27] <Taggart> hahaha
[11:27] <Taggart> it's rebooting right now
[11:29] <vidd> do we have contact?
[11:29] <Taggart> just a second
[11:30] <Taggart> yesssssssssssssssss
[11:30] <vidd> awesome
[11:30] <vidd> sorry i didnt help earlier...was chatting in another room
[11:30] <Taggart> haha, no worries, thanks again, you were quite helpful
[11:31] <vidd> glad i caught the tail end of your convo before you ndiswrapper'd it
[11:31] <Taggart> hahaha
[11:31] <Taggart> very much so
[11:33] <Taggart> :D
[11:53] <Taggart> is wpa supplicant already installed?
[11:57] <Taggart> wifi radar is all of a sudden not picking anything up, and modprobing r818x isn't doing anything\
[11:59] <Taggart> and when running wifi radar terminal says "wlan0  Failed to read scan data : Operation not permitted"
[12:03] <vidd> Taggart, sorry...that i cannot answer...i dont use wpa
[12:06] <vidd> hrm...odd
[12:07] <vidd> was it working before removing the modual from the blacklist and rebooting?
[12:08] <Taggart> it was working after as well
[12:08] <Taggart> but out of nowhere, nothing loads
[12:09] <vidd> did you install something (like wifi radar or wpa supplicant)?