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a-sergevnahello )12:17
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drbloodI need help12:22
drbloodHow do you reinstall windows when using kubuntu12:23
drbloodSomone please help? or tell me where i can get help >.>12:26
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frojnddoes anyone know what function in writer would change column text into text that would be in line, fited to the page and not in the column??12:41
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weswh-Which newsreader would you guys recommend? I was suprised that nothing came with Feisty by default01:12
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weswh-good binary support is a must, something that will display images in messages, the more GUI the better01:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
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carutsuhello, I'm having some problems I installed the codecs but i still can see some MPG or some AVI videos not even with VLC01:15
weswh-HaSH: wow, mature version number :) Working well for you though?01:16
carutsuI installed restricted extras package but i still can't play them01:16
HaSHweswh-, yea im not currently use a *ubuntu based distro. but it works realy good for what i needed...01:16
HaSHim not a huge usenet user01:17
HaSHseemed stable everything worked like it should.01:17
HaSHnever crashed.01:17
HaSHsurprised its not on the the bot here01:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usenet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:18
evsophomore2009hey everyone, my Adept install is Hung01:18
evsophomore2009i need the code thing to stop the insta;;01:19
HaSHthe code is 12301:19
HaSHwhy do you want to stop a install?01:19
weswh-HaSH: thank you01:19
HaSHweswh-, np :-)01:19
evsophomore2009Hash: because it stopped mat 30% like it always does01:19
evsophomore2009it wont move01:19
evsophomore2009its been on for 6 hours01:19
HaSHoh ok01:19
HaSHctrl + c01:20
HaSHyour connection time out?01:20
evsophomore2009no, it just wont move01:20
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evsophomore2009and i got out of the install01:20
evsophomore2009so now i cant open Adept01:20
HaSHof its been a while01:20
HaSHi do belive apt-get -f install01:20
HaSHwith fix it01:20
HaSHor apt-get install -f01:21
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HaSHi am running off memory...and its been many bonghits seince ive used any apt based distro01:21
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HaSHalso check your sources01:21
Guilty_as_Sincan anyone help me make k3b capable of burning audio cd's?01:21
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Guilty_as_SinI just switched from gnome and I have always used the default app in gnome01:22
evsophomore2009nope didnt work01:22
HaSHmake sure there all there and the right version. also might wanna try to add you country code to the hostname ....is us.* or eu.*01:22
Guilty_as_Sinserpentine I think01:22
carutsushould i instal w32 codecs?01:22
HaSHok sorry evsophomore2009 ......im not sure. maby someone else here knows01:22
Guilty_as_Sinanyways, any help is greatly appreciated01:22
HaSHGuilty_as_Sin, its very easy01:22
HaSHcarutsu, yes01:23
Guilty_as_Sinfigured it was01:23
HaSHGuilty_as_Sin, what exaclty is your prob?01:23
HaSHGuilty_as_Sin, open k3b. select new audio cd01:23
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carutsuHaSH: i though it was done with the "restricted" package01:23
carutsuHaSH: I'll give a shot01:23
Guilty_as_Sinlet this file copy and I can tell you.. 1sec01:23
HaSH!restricted | carutsu01:23
ubotucarutsu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:23
HaSHGuilty_as_Sin, if its long pastebin it01:24
HaSH!paste | Guilty_as_Sin01:24
ubotuGuilty_as_Sin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:24
Guilty_as_Sinnah' it won't be01:24
HaSHah ok01:24
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HaSHi do love ubotu ...01:24
HaSHvery helpfull bot01:24
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Guilty_as_Sin,,just need the mp3 audio decoder01:25
Guilty_as_Sinsorry for the wait.. had a 3gig transfer in process..  took a sec01:26
HaSHah Guilty_as_Sin follow the link i sent to carutsu01:26
HaSHnp man :-)01:26
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wsjunioris anybody here using avant-window-navigator?01:27
Guilty_as_SinI've already done most all this01:27
HaSHGuilty_as_Sin, well just follow it step by step.01:27
HaSHmabyy you missed somthing01:27
Guilty_as_Sinafter install I pretty much went right down the wiki..  I have all the codecs to play just about all file types.. just can't get that message to go away in k3b is all01:28
Guilty_as_Sinmust be01:29
carutsuGuilty_as_Sin: what message>01:29
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carutsuGuilty_as_Sin: ??01:30
Guilty_as_Sinmp3 audio decoder not found01:30
carutsuGuilty_as_Sin: i had a message in k3b that it couldn't record MP3, you can look for the needed package i dont remember the name now, but just type in Adept k3b- it'll bring it for you01:30
carutsuit's easy01:30
carutsuyou'll se it :D01:31
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carutsuGuilty_as_Sin: let me know when you solved it01:31
Guilty_as_Sinbad command or file name01:32
Guilty_as_Sincommand not found I mean01:32
carutsuis not a command01:32
carutsugo to adept01:32
carutsuK menu > System > Adept01:32
Guilty_as_Sinoh' so adept is like synaptic01:33
carutsuexactly the same01:33
carutsuonly for KDE (Qt based)01:33
Guilty_as_Sinkiller..  that was the only thing I was missing from gnome01:33
BluesKajin the K-Menu/system/Adept01:33
Guilty_as_Sinhow did I miss that?01:33
carutsuBluesKaj: that's what i said :-}01:34
BluesKajactually Guilty_as_Sin most of us prefer synaptic to adept :)01:34
carutsui dont01:34
Guilty_as_SinI use to brag about gnome alot but I'm getting the feeling that kde is where it's at for me.. just take me a week or two to get broken in01:34
carutsuIn 6.10 was a lot better (synaptic)01:34
carutsubut i think it's the same now :D01:35
BluesKaji said most of us, not all01:35
carutsujust speaking my mind :D01:35
BluesKajsynaptic can fix broken pkges01:35
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carutsui had no idea01:35
carutsui still can't play the !@@#$@#$!#!@#!@$!@# MPEG video01:36
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carutsuironically is a KDE video, why don't they just use Theora?01:36
BluesKajlook for libdvdcss2 and ffmpeg in synaptic01:36
Guilty_as_Sineverything that it fetches is installed..  oh well not a big deal anyway..  I'm just setting this up for a friend and I wanted to make it as simplified as possible01:37
tominglishi, is it possible to install the latest alsa (1.0.14a) in kubuntu feisty? if so, does anyone know a good guide for this, or is this something that will be backported soon?01:37
carutsuGuilty_as_Sin: didnt you find it?01:37
Guilty_as_Singuess the "don't fix it if it aint broke" rule applies here01:37
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:37
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carutsuGuilty_as_Sin: ?01:37
Guilty_as_Sinoh wait.. had a typo in my search.. no wonder..01:37
Guilty_as_SinI won't need the dev files, correct?01:38
carutsuGuilty_as_Sin: the package is called libk3b2-mp301:38
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carutsuGuilty_as_Sin: no, just for debuging01:38
Guilty_as_Sinthanks for the help..01:39
carutsuGuilty_as_Sin: let me know what happened after you installed it01:39
Guilty_as_Sinyou probably just saved me a ton of trouble introducing me to adept..  I'm sure that will make his transition from windows alot easier01:39
Guilty_as_Sinon my pc I've just used command for all my installs01:40
carutsu:D i hope it's not that hard you know after you get it01:40
carutsuif i know what to install i do, but when im loking for packages i use adept01:40
Guilty_as_Sinyeah that was me in gnome..  use synaptic to find new stuff01:41
carutsueasier than apt-cache search01:41
Guilty_as_Sinuse command to install my regular stuff01:41
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tominglishi, is it possible to install the latest alsa (1.0.14a) in kubuntu feisty? if so, does anyone know a good guide for this, or is this something that will be backported soon?01:42
Guilty_as_SinI think my hardware prefers kde..  more so than even I do01:42
Guilty_as_Sinlove the change01:42
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carutsutominglis, i'm afraid i dont know, this /might/ be useful01:42
carutsu!alsa | tominglis01:42
ubotutominglis: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP301:42
Guilty_as_Sinanywho..  gotta get this lasagne out and chomp down on some deliciousness..  you all have a great day01:43
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tominglismy new sound card, the creative audigy 2 zs notebook does not have input / microphone support in feisty01:43
tominglisthis was included in 1.0.1401:44
carutsui would suggest that you first check alsamixer01:44
tominglisand i was wondering how i could upgrade to this version from 1.0.13 that comes with feisty01:44
crimsuntominglis: so compile alsa-driver 1.0.14 (and _only_ alsa-driver) yourself.01:44
crimsuntominglis: you'll need build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed01:44
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carutsuhow came a sound card is not supported i though sound hadn't changed in 20 years or something01:45
tomingliswhat's $(uname -r)?01:45
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fisnikcan anybody help me solve this problem: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'01:45
carutsuuname tells you the kernel version01:45
tomingliscarutsu: new sound cards / chips are always coming out, especially with azalia and xfi knocking aboot01:46
tominglisso if i have those things, what command do i need to build alsa?01:46
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carutsufisnik: have a lok in #mysql01:46
fisnikcarutsu: how do I?01:46
carutsuclick the bluish word and it'll take you to the channel01:46
fisnikcarutsu: Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )01:47
carutsunot a clue, crimsun01:47
carutsuyou must've done something wrong01:47
carutsuits a channel not a user01:47
crimsuntominglis: well, you need to download the 1.0.14 tarball, extract it, then ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build01:48
fisnikI dont understand, I just cliked your nick which appear blueish01:48
carutsufisnik: no, click this: #mysql01:48
fisnikah sorry...01:48
crimsuntominglis: after that: make&& sudo make install-modules01:48
carutsuif you click my nick it'll try to open a chat session with me01:48
tomingliscrimsun: i have installed build-essential, and linux-headers-2.6.20-16 and linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic are already installed01:49
fisnikcarutsu: I"m now in #mysql01:49
carutsuso ask01:49
crimsuntominglis: good, now download the 1.0.14 tarball and follow the instructions I've given you.01:49
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tomingliscrimsun: which of the downloads do i need? there are tarballs for driver library lib-plugins utilities tools firmware pyalsa oss compatibility01:50
crimsun19:44 < crimsun> tominglis: so compile alsa-driver 1.0.14 (and _only_ alsa-driver) yourself.01:51
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tomingliscrimsun: ok i have downloaded the driver package? does it not matter that i don't have the others? will it work with 1.0.14 driver and 1.0.13 other things?01:53
crimsunno, it doesn't matter. Yes, it will work.01:54
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tomingliscrimsun: sorry to be silly, but i havene done this before: is './configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build' a command?01:56
tominglisdo i need to point it at my alsa-driver directory?01:56
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carutsudamn it01:58
carutsusorry sorry01:58
carutsui still can't play MPEG files01:58
tomingliscarutsu: why not?01:59
carutsutominglis: don't kknow01:59
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carutsutominglis: kaffeine just shows a blue screen, VLC just crashes01:59
tomingliscarutsu: do you have libxine-extracodecs gstreamer-plugins-ffmpeg ?02:00
carutsuas far as i know i do, let me double-check02:00
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carutsuit says gstreamer-plugins-ffmpeg cannot be found02:01
tomingliscrimsun: hey dude, could you just confirm with me about the ./configure command? do i need to run that from within the downloaded driver directory?02:01
tomingliscarutsu: let me look on adept02:01
carutsutominglis: thank you02:01
carutsutominglis: i even installed w32 codecs02:01
tetriminois anyone of you familiar to a game called True Combat: Elite?02:02
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shpetimcan anybody give me a better source.list02:02
carutsutominglis: jus t a question, gstreamer? i use Xine02:02
carutsutominglis: well kubuntu uses Xine, doesn't it02:03
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tominglisyou can use either with kaffeine amarok etc02:03
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tomingliswhich is why i suggested you get both if you didne have them02:04
tominglisi think vlc should support it though? that uses ffmpeg02:04
carutsuno, just Xine02:04
carutsuyes it's _very_ weird 'couse VLC has built in codecs02:04
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tomingliswhere is the mpeg file?02:06
tominglisis it mpeg 2?02:06
tomingliscrimsun: ah i see the config script is in the folder - doh! i shall try that now thanks dude02:07
carutsutominglis: no luck02:07
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carutsutominglis: must i restart X?02:07
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carutsumm sounded window-ish02:08
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tomingliscarutsu: you have libxine-extracodecs?02:08
tomingliscarutsu: what is the mpeg file you are trying to run?02:09
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carutsutominglis: yes02:09
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carutsutominglis: an MPEG player about KList, and also an AVI02:10
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:11
tominglistry restarting :)02:11
zerozeroI am trying to mount a remote drive and  I am getting an error. Here is a link to my problem: http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=23402:11
carutsutominglis: VLC crash because a badAlloc()02:11
carutsuwell let me kill X02:11
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ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions02:12
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ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse02:12
Darkkishso is 3g safer than fuse?02:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about meditbuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:13
coreymon77i wouldnt do it02:13
coreymon77ntfs writing is was too dangeroux02:13
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tomingliscrimsun: groovy, it seems to be installing now, should i restart when it is done? also, will i need to redo this every time the kernel is updated?02:14
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stratosI set up twinview mode in xorg with my dual monitors but my main and secondary monitors are flip flopped, how to i swap them to normal02:16
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carutsuweird VLC dies for insuficient resources "insufficient resources for operation" impossible i have 2GB02:16
carutsuof RAM02:16
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tominglisdid you restart the computer or just x?02:17
carutsujust X02:17
BluesKajperhaps it means codecs02:17
carutsuBluesKaj: eh?02:17
tominglisrestart the machine dude, you shouldn't be getting insufficient resources on vlc, especially if it has worked before?02:18
BluesKajresources could mean dependent apps02:18
carutsuno is a BadAlloc "X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)"02:18
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carutsuill restart the computer02:19
stratosI set up twinview mode in xorg with my dual monitors but my main and secondary monitors are flip flopped, how to i swap them to normal02:19
tominglisstratos: i don't know, but have you done this in xorg.conf?02:20
stratosyes sir02:20
tominglisstratos: if so, presumably the screens have different numbers?02:20
tominglisstratos: have you tried swapping them round?02:20
stratosi only defined one screen section in xorg02:20
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tominglisstratos: also, do you just have the one graphics card or do you have sli?02:20
stratostom: yes i did swap the ports02:20
stratostom: one grafx card02:21
tominglisstratos: which one?02:21
stratosyou don't correct me rictoo02:21
Rictoo_He's using a pirated card02:21
tominglisstratos: can you pastebin me the relevant section of xorg.conf?02:21
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tominglisstratos: i don't promise to know what's wrong, but i'll take a look :)02:22
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tominglisRictoo_: how do you pirate a graphics card?02:22
Rictoo_i was kidding :D02:22
tominglisRictoo_: :)02:22
tominglishow many Microsoft employees does it take to pirate a graphics card?02:23
Rictoo_oman 0 cuz dey suck02:23
stratosURL: http://rafb.net/p/UZmeKO25.html to tom02:23
zerozerothey don't "pirate", they just refefine "legal"02:23
BluesKajpirate as instolen perhaps :)02:24
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fisnikcan somebody tell me on how to do streaming02:24
fisnikI'm trying to open a link from shoutcast but it wont work02:25
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kadazpast it here and Ill test it02:25
Rictoo_tominglis: He gave you the link (just telling since he didn't highlight)02:25
Tallmarisgood evening everyone02:25
carutsuVLC still crashes, doesnt metter, Kaffeine is enough for me02:26
TallmarisI can't launch startx on kubuntu... has anyone any idea?02:26
kadazuse recovery mode on boot up and login as root02:26
tominglisstratos: i am having a look02:26
fisnikI'm truing to tune in  from shoutcast, but can't do it with the available programs under multimedia02:26
coreymon77i dont think you want to use startx02:26
tomingliscarutsu: Kaffeine is enough for any man! :)02:26
TallmarisI don't have root login enabled02:27
coreymon77doesnt kdm work02:27
fisnikanybody knows how to?02:27
kadazif you use recovery it automatticaly does it.02:27
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carutsutominglis: xD02:27
Tallmarisbut i don't know the password02:27
coreymon77Tallmaris: its your password02:27
Tallmarisand it did not solve the problem02:27
kadazits the same as your user password02:27
Tallmarisno, it is not02:27
coreymon77Tallmaris: the root password is your user password02:27
coreymon77Tallmaris: but try using kdm first02:27
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coreymon77Tallmaris: yes it is02:27
coreymon77Tallmaris: unless you changed it02:28
NeolinuxHi !02:28
Tallmarismmm, I'll give it a second try02:28
coreymon77Tallmaris: and also, dont use su02:28
coreymon77Tallmaris: use sudo02:28
BluesKajfisnik, are you trying to listen to broadcast streams or serve them onto the internet ?02:28
TallmarisI use sudo always :)02:28
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coreymon77Tallmaris: well then unless you for some reason changed it, your root password is your user password02:28
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kadazTallmaris, are you booted into kde???02:29
TRhey i have a problem02:29
Tallmariscoreymon77: tha strange problem is that I get to the graphical login of kubuntu, but after i enter the pwd the screen goes blank and the login appears again02:29
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tominglisstratos: so it works at the moment02:29
TallmarisNo, I'm not into kde... i'm using winXP now... :(02:29
tominglisstratos: but wrong way round?02:29
coreymon77Tallmaris: oh, ya i had that problem02:29
Tallmariscoreymon77: how did you solve it?02:30
stratostominglis: yes sir02:30
TRmy taskbar doesn't show up AT ALL02:30
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TRwhat can i do to fix it?02:30
coreymon77Tallmaris: trying to remember02:30
kadazok.. tallmaris, save yourself time and login using recovery, and type cp xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf02:30
coreymon77Tallmaris: well, really trying to fin the postit note that i wrote the solution on02:30
Tallmariscoreymon77: lol... :)02:31
TRwhere do i fix the task manager?02:31
tominglisstratos: have you tried sticking RightOf in TwinViewOrientation?02:31
kadazTR whats wrong with it.02:32
fisnikblueskay: just listening02:32
coreymon77TR: try running kicker in a terminal02:32
TallmarisI'll go and try the recovery mode again... don't go away, I'll be back soon :)02:32
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stratostominglis: yes already did all of that mess02:32
BluesKajfisnik, using amarok ?02:32
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fisnikamarok wont work, needs some decodex or similiar02:33
TRit wasn't showing up at all02:33
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tominglisstratos: what monitors do you have?02:33
Darkkishvitamin in #winehq is an asshole02:33
DarkkishI pasted 3 lines and he FLIPPED OUT IN ALL CAPS02:34
Darkkishthey were short lines too02:34
fisnikBluesKay: amarok wont work, do you know anything similiar to winamp?02:34
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kadazfisnick xmms02:35
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BluesKajfisnik, amarok-engines and amarok-xine02:35
draikWhat is the equivalence of KATAPULT in GNOME?02:35
stratostominglis: i have an lcd and a crt, i want my lcd to be my main02:35
BluesKajfisnik, install those and you'll be ok02:36
Rictoo_He has an LCD and a CRT connected with a VGA>DVI converter to his vcard02:36
Rictoo_tominglis: ^02:36
fisnikblueskay: do I have to install both of them? I dont need to output, just to listen02:36
carutsuDarkkish: yes i know what you mean02:36
BluesKajyeah for listening02:36
carutsu!language | Darkkish02:36
ubotuDarkkish: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:36
Darkkishsorry about that02:36
BluesKajbtw fisnik the name is BluesKaj02:36
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fisnikBluesKaj: :D sorry02:37
fisnikBluesKay: do I have to install both of them? I dont need to output, just to listen02:37
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fisnikBluesKaj:* do I have to install both of them? I dont need to output, just to listen02:37
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kadazsorry fisnik, maybe xmms is only for gnome02:38
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fisnikkadez: I use kubuntu02:38
tominglisstratos: have you seen this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27199302:38
david_does anyone know how to switch sound cards?02:38
BluesKajfisnik,yes for listening02:38
kadazyes david_ with a screwdriver02:39
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david_oh of course why didn't i think of that02:39
david_but... hypotehtically, let's say i had 202:39
tominglisstratos: hmmm vga - dvi, as in the graphics card thinks it is sending dvi?02:39
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tominglisstratos: to the crt?02:39
kadazsound system02:39
Rictoo_tominglis: He left, but yes02:39
Rictoo_I'm helping him on the phone02:39
kadazhardware, and in there you have an option to change card02:40
Tallmarisback... the cp xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf did not work kadaz02:40
coreymon77Tallmaris: hi, i cant seem to find the postit, but ill look again02:40
kadazwere you in the folder02:40
Tallmarisyes kadaz.. and I sudo the command :)02:40
david_kadaz: where is that option? select audio device just lets me select alsa, oss etc02:40
kadazok try .2  or .302:40
Darkkishhow do i create a new file however i want?02:40
Darkkishfor example if i wanted to make a .reg file02:41
Tallmarismmm, sure? after the cp should I reboot or try startx directly?02:41
kadazif you boot into root02:41
chuckI goofed something up in iptables trying to get ipmasquerading to work.... Every time I boot, i have no internet access until i run iptables -F, iptables -X, and iptables -P input/output/forward accept in. changes are blown away on reboot.02:41
kadazyou can startx in root02:41
kadazand  edit the file from there02:41
chuckanyone know if i can edit a conf file to fix this?02:41
TallmarisI can't log as root...02:41
kadazin recovery you do already02:41
fisnikBluesKay: after installing:02:42
fisnikNo suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported.02:42
Tallmaristhe recovery asks me for root password, I write my user pwd and it says "incorrect"02:42
Tallmarisso I press control-D and it goes on02:42
MarkedaDoes Kubuntu 7.04 come with any ISO burning software preinstalled? I'm looking around and don't see any, but I want to be certain...02:42
kadazroot does create a random pw02:42
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chuckMarkeda: yes. k3b will burn an iso to a dvd or cd02:43
BlueDevilMarkeda: k3b02:43
MarkedaAh, it does. Thank you!02:43
kadazdavid_ all I see is a selectio to change midi device02:43
chuck!info mencoder02:43
ubotumencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu9.1 (feisty), package size 3474 kB, installed size 8736 kB02:43
chuckbah    i'm still on edgy. doesn't help02:44
david_kadaz, yea, no option to select hardware02:44
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david_ni gnome and windows theres an easy way02:44
david_hell, in windows most programs let you select the device within02:44
MarkedaI suppose, had I started, k3b, the big "Burn DVD ISO Image..." button would have tipped me off... *apologizes*02:44
kadazdavid_ why not just take one sound card out?02:44
BluesKajnot all formats on internet radio are supported fisnik ...some broadcast in aac and ogg , so you need the plugins02:44
david_kadaz: because sometimes I use both at once02:45
david_kadaz: but yes, that would work02:45
tominglisRictoo_: i don't think you need all that modeline stuff in there02:45
kadazread that.02:45
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tominglisRictoo_: also the screen section - identifier should be Default Screen02:46
coreymon77Tallmaris: can you still not log in with recovery mode?02:46
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kadazdavid_ sudo asoundconf set-default-card "cardname"02:46
Tallmariscoreymon77: yes... it asks root pwd, I insert mine and it goes on02:46
Tallmarisat the graphical login it gives me the same problem, I login and the screen goes blank and then again at the login02:47
fisnikBluesKay: I found the solution, streamtuner will work ;)02:47
tominglisRictoo_: this is quite neat: http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html, but make sure that the second monitor settings are appropriate for the crt02:47
Tallmarisfrom the console login I can log, but I dunno what to do, since startx does not start02:47
Tallmaris(errors with fonts maybe, but I'm clueless)02:47
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:47
tominglisRictoo_: anyhoo, good luck!02:47
Rictoo_94413 < tominglis> Rictoo_: also the screen section - identifier should be Default Screen02:47
Rictoo_Does that really matter?02:48
david_kadaz: thanks!02:48
Darkkishokay so when i start steam, and it's installing02:48
BluesKajand another thing fisnik , you must have patience in order for the codecs that are required by the stream to load, quite often afetr you get the demux  error if you click play again it will work02:48
Darkkishat abou 28% it says only one instance of steam can be open at a time02:48
Darkkishthe odd thing is, i checked, and it is the only instance of steam running.02:48
tominglisRictoo_: oh, not in your case since you have also renamed the screen in server layout02:49
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kadaztallmaris, try the cp over the conf's02:49
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Darkkishoh wrong window02:50
Tallmariskadaz: I'll try, I wa just waiting to see if coreymon77 has some ideas, so I can try withou relogging here :)02:50
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kadazI had to do it twice before the 2nd worked.02:50
soulrider_Tallmaris: try to reconfigure X02:51
Tallmarissoulrider_: how?02:51
coreymon77Tallmaris: ya, thats my suggestion02:51
kadazhow about XFdrake?"02:51
coreymon77Tallmaris: i think that is what i did02:51
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:51
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:51
coreymon77kadaz: this happened to me before and i wrote the fix on a postit note, i just cant find it right now02:52
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BluesKajreconfig X kadaz  ?  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:54
Tallmarismmm, in the help it says to write this, along other stuff... sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum'02:54
Tallmariswhat does that do?02:54
coreymon77kadaz: heres what to do02:54
coreymon77Tallmaris: hers what to do02:54
coreymon77Tallmaris: boot up normally02:54
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coreymon77Tallmaris: when you get to the kde login screen02:54
coreymon77Tallmaris: hit control+alt+f102:54
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coreymon77Tallmaris: to loaqd up a console login02:55
coreymon77Tallmaris: login as your normal user02:55
coreymon77Tallmaris: and then type this02:55
coreymon77 sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop02:55
evsophomore2009is anyone here Familar with Frostwire?02:55
Tallmarismmm.. and then?02:56
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coreymon77Tallmaris: then02:56
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coreymon77Tallmaris: as kadaz said, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:56
evsophomore2009Coreymon: are you familar with Frostwire?02:57
coreymon77once that is done02:57
coreymon77do this02:57
chuckanyone here pretty good with iptables?02:57
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coreymon77 sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start02:57
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ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire02:57
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coreymon77Tallmaris: either that or just sudo kdm02:57
Tallmariswell... time to give it a try :)02:57
evsophomore2009Blueskaj: i need help with it02:58
Tallmaristhank you, I'll be back in a while :)02:58
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BluesKajhelp evsophomore2009 ..how?02:58
evsophomore2009well for some reason, on Frostwire, it wont play my songs02:58
evsophomore2009when i download em, it wont play unless it save it and send it to Amarok02:59
evsophomore2009and thats REALLY annoyin02:59
kadazsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?? how many times I tried that in unbuntu and it wouldnt get my display back.02:59
evsophomore2009Kadaz: I had the same problem02:59
evsophomore2009Kadaz: i had to re-install Kubuntu Edgy 6.1002:59
rodrigo_wich is a good web for asking to create drivers?02:59
BluesKajsorry evsophomore2009 ...no idea ...amarok is better anyway02:59
rodrigo_that doesn't exist for kubuntu?03:00
evsophomore2009well you cant download songs on Amarok03:00
coreymon77kadaz: i gace tallmaris my suggestion from what i remember03:00
BluesKajlife is tough :)03:00
coreymon77kadaz: but i remember having to rm something aswell03:00
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kadazgreat, lets hope it works03:00
rodrigo_I can't use a graphic tablet that has a great price, and also my lexmark doesn't work03:00
coreymon77kadaz: i just dont know what03:00
rodrigo_it looks every thing is against the independent digital artist!03:01
kadazevsophomore2009 I dont use frostfire so I am unable to offer help.03:02
ardchoillecoreymon77: Did it have to do with the ~/.Xauthority or ~/.ICEauthority files? If those files are owned by root (can happen if you use sudo with gui apps) it can prevent you from logging in03:02
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coreymon77ardchoille: i dont know03:03
erichjman kde is so awesome, no idea why i used gnome for so many years03:03
coreymon77ardchoille: if only i could remember what i did to fix it03:03
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ardchoillecoreymon77: See who ows those files:  ls -la .{ICE,X}authority03:04
evsophomore2009all: is anyone here Familiar with Frostwire?03:04
coreymon77ardchoille: its not my problem03:05
coreymon77ardchoille: im helping someone else03:05
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BluesKajevsophomore2009, check your playback settings in frostwire , if it's not your default player then the songs will autmatically open your default player which is obviously amarok03:06
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ardchoilleerichj: I know exactly how you feel03:07
coreymon77kadaz: if tallmaris comes back, tell him ill brb03:07
evsophomore2009does anyone know the code to stop any installs with Adept?03:09
evsophomore2009my install is hung and wont move03:09
evsophomore2009and now i cant open Adept without stopping the other installation03:09
BluesKajevsophomore2009, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a03:10
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:10
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ardchoilleBluesKaj: Dang, do you have that memorised?03:10
Darkkishdoes anyone know if uninstalling wine will leave my ~/.wine folder intact03:10
klobsterhow do I disable ctrl-alt-del?03:10
BluesKajnope , handy desktop reference text file03:10
Darkkishand don't tell me to check in #winehq03:11
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ardchoilleDarkkish: Uninstalling wine shouldn't affect it, since it's in your $HOME03:11
hitmanWillyDarkkish, check in #wine :P03:12
peanutbhow do i start back up the KDE menu bars? It seems to have crashed, and i dont want to loose open windows03:12
BluesKajardchoille, common probs ... one needs to just copy and paste03:12
Rictoo_what's the fall back driver in xorg.conf?03:12
klobsterDarkkish: cp ~/.wine .backupwine, then try it and see03:12
evsophomore2009Setting up noatun (3.5.5-0ubuntu1) ...03:12
evsophomore2009Errors were encountered while processing:03:12
evsophomore2009 x11-common03:12
BluesKajvesa, Rictoo_03:12
evsophomore2009BLueskaj: did you get those 3 IM's about what it said?03:13
ardchoillepeanutb: Try: dcop kicker default restart03:13
ardchoilleklobster: He-s gonna need "-r" with that03:13
BluesKajok, evsophomore2009 , dpkg --configure -a03:13
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peanutbjust a simply kicker did the job thanks03:14
BluesKajsudo dpkg --configure -a03:14
santiagohay alguien que hable bien espaol?03:14
klobsterardchoille: I/he would prolly just grag and drop, but...03:14
ardchoille!es | santiago03:14
ubotusantiago: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:14
ardchoilleklobster: True03:15
evsophomore2009Blueskaj: its the same thing03:16
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kadazhas he came back??03:16
BluesKajevsophomore2009, , close adept .. ?03:18
kadaz If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:18
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kadazcoreymon77 its been a while...03:20
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evsophomore2009Nope still didnt work03:22
evsophomore2009i kinda hate Kubuntu Now03:22
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BluesKajdo you have either adept, apt or synaptic open, evsophomore2009 ?03:23
evsophomore2009no nothing is open03:25
evsophomore2009im going to re-start my pc03:25
kadaz/action waves see you soon03:25
kadazwhat this is IRC    :D03:26
BluesKajnot mirc03:26
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kadazI like the actions command03:26
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Jucatokadaz: use /me03:26
BluesKajin the server text box, kadaz03:26
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kadazohhh YAH !03:26
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coreymon77kadaz: sorry, i know i was gone longer than expected03:33
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coreymon77kadaz: anyways, ahs he come back yet?03:34
kadazcoreymon77 you know how he was saying that password wouldnt work03:34
coreymon77kadaz: what are you talking about03:34
kadazsudo passwd -l root  this disables the root account.03:34
coreymon77kadaz: i dont get this03:34
coreymon77kadaz: how could the password be changed03:34
kadazby default, K as root generates a random password.03:35
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zoroastroque doido, Ubuntu is the best!03:35
kadazbut its tied into the user account for access03:35
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kadazcoreymon77 I havnt seen him come back yet.03:36
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kadazgets it working and doesnt back03:37
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DaSkreechJucato: yo03:37
coreymon77kadaz: thats why you dont disable root03:37
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JucatoDaSkreech: yep?03:38
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zoroastrogood night03:38
DaSkreechJucato: Mez logged in a few minutes after you logged out today03:39
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kadazI would think that if you did disable root, you would be able to access your computer at all.03:40
kadazerr wouldnt.03:40
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DaSkreechkadaz: huh? Why?03:40
ardchoillecoreymon77: Don't disable root? What are you saying?03:40
coreymon77why should you03:40
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coreymon77ardchoille: dont login as root03:41
ardchoilleI've been using ubuntu since warty and have never enabled root.. it's not necessary to have root enabled.03:41
coreymon77ardchoille: but dont disable it entirely03:41
ardchoillecoreymon77: Ah, yeah, that's right.03:41
coreymon77ardchoille: thats what i mean03:41
ardchoilleMy root account has never been enabled.03:41
coreymon77ardchoille: neither has mine, but sudo works03:42
coreymon77and my sudo pword is my account pwrod03:42
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ardchoilleThat's how sudo is supposed to work03:42
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coreymon77ardchoille: thats the way it should be03:42
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kadazI think root should of seperate password.03:46
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DaSkreechkadaz: she does03:46
coreymon77if its your computer03:46
kadazits linux03:48
coreymon77well, as long as you remember that pword03:48
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kadazI'll remember03:48
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kadazDo you forget to put on your shorts in the morning?03:48
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coreymon77kadaz: tallmaris forgot03:48
kadazsudo autoreset pword :DS03:48
DaSkreechkadaz: go ahead enable root :)03:48
DaSkreechkadaz: it does make you easier to be atacked but it does keep a logical seperation of powers03:49
Jucatological separation of powers w/o root: create an administrator user w/ sudo privileges. remove your user from the admin group (sudoers group)03:50
kadazIf Iam hearing you correctly, your saying enabling root with a password makes you more recepitive to attack?03:50
kadazI agree, if your using the account as a user account.03:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openmoko - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:51
sivaji!info openmoko03:51
ubotuPackage openmoko does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:52
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Jucatosivaji: it's not a package. it's a project for a mobile phone. you won't find it on Ubuntu03:52
sivajiJucato ok03:53
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about baskets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:54
DaSkreechkadaz: no03:55
DaSkreechkadaz: if a hacker is attacking your box the only account that he knows to bethere is root03:55
kadazcorrection, to be attacked03:55
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DaSkreechif you disable root first he would have to figure out what your user name is then attack that03:55
erichjdoes the KDE group accept donations?03:56
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kadazso root remains hidden in a gui except through console.03:56
erichjnevermind, i found it03:56
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kadazso can a "root" access account be made and and still use the user account.03:57
Jucato!sudo | kadaz03:58
ubotukadaz: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:58
Jucatoemphasis on  the last sentence :)03:58
kadazI already read the page :D03:58
Jucatothen you should know the answer :D03:58
DaSkreechkadaz: root cannot login to the box03:59
DaSkreechkadaz: so an external remote attack would be fruitless04:00
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draikDoes anyone here use espeak?04:02
evsophomore2009Blueskaj: nope still dosent work04:02
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Jucatoevsophomore2009: what's wrong?04:02
draikHello Jucato04:03
DaSkreechFrostwire I think04:03
Jucatohi draik!04:03
draikJucato: There is hardly any support in Ubuntu. Quite sad :(04:03
evsophomore2009Jucato: well im trying to install updates, and it wont install because it says there was an error04:03
DaSkreechdraik: Eh?04:03
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Jucatodraik: it's all about the timezones :)04:03
Jucatoevsophomore2009: try doing it from the command line?04:04
draikDaSkreech: ?04:04
draikJucato: I know about time zones....04:04
evsophomore2009Jucato: nope, Adept04:04
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DaSkreechdraik: support in Ubuntu?04:04
Jucatodraik: I wasn't implying you didn't :)04:04
Jucatoevsophomore2009: yes. and I'm suggesting that you try to do it from the command line. it will give you more descriptive error messages, which Adept is incapable of giving04:05
draikJucato: I know. I was just saying that I know time zones because of you and other people that are +2 and +3 hours from me04:05
JucatoI'm +12 :)04:05
draikDaSkreech: Yeah. Seems limited or "you should know this" type of help04:05
DaSkreechOh you mean in #ubuntu04:05
draikDaSkreech: Yup04:06
DaSkreechWell yeah04:06
draikDaSkreech: I'm sorry. Everyone here is helpful beyond belief sometimes. Ubuntu.... not so much04:06
DaSkreechpeople in #ubuntu get surprised when I say that maybe 1/3 of the people I deal with in #kubuntu are seeking help for Gnome cause they can't get any help in #ubuntu04:06
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DaSkreechn8k99: Hey mate04:06
kadazis skim a nessary program in Kubuntu04:06
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evsophomore2009Jucato: oOo okay, well im gonna try Installing the updates again, if it dosent work i'll try it from the command line04:07
Jucatowb n8k9904:07
draikDaSkreech: I'm part of that 1/3rd04:07
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: what was the error?04:07
n8k99thanks Jucato04:07
Jucatokadaz: for scim, (korean, japanese, chinese input) yes04:07
n8k99what did I miss?04:08
draikI guess nobody has used espeak around me. :(04:08
draikIt's in the repos04:08
draikWell, my repos anyway04:08
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DaSkreechn8k99: Hey mate04:08
DaSkreechJust that04:08
DaSkreech!info espeak04:08
ubotuespeak: A multi-lingual software speech synthesizer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.21-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 57 kB, installed size 220 kB04:08
kadazwhat about the program katapult launcher?04:13
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Jucato!katapult | kadaz04:14
ubotukadaz: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.04:14
Jucatonot essential but extremely powerful. you'll want to have it around04:14
Jucato(btw, no need to press Alt+F2 and type katapult. Just Alt+Space)04:14
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DaSkreechenabled by default baby :)04:14
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erichjis it possible to minimize Kontact to notification area?04:21
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DaSkreecherichj: can you?04:29
erichjgo to the office menu->right click on the link and select edit and when the settings manager opens there is a check box to load it to the notification to system tray04:30
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erichjdoesn't actually seem to work though04:32
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JucatoKontact itself doesn't have a system tray icon. alternatively you can just use KMail's or Akregator's system tray icons to create that effect04:34
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sivajivirus in linux http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/06/11/badbunny-worm.html04:36
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erichjworm and its in open-office04:38
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sivajierichj ya04:38
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DaSkreechand it's cros platform and doesn't exist in the wild and at worst is not even a medium threat04:38
wsjunioris gtalk supposed to work with konqueror?04:39
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erichji've never even opened open office before04:39
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wsjuniori can see just my name as online but not the other contacts04:39
erichjhad it installed for like 4 or 5 years now04:39
erichjwsjunior: proof you are alone in this world04:40
wsjuniorwhen someone send a message for me it doesnt appear as in firefox04:40
wsjuniorerichj: is that supposed to be funny? :)04:40
erichjwsjunior: heh04:40
wsjuniorjust wondering if someone got it working04:41
erichji have never used gtalk before04:42
Jucatowsjunior: don't want to use Google Talk in Kopete?04:42
erichjkopete is my poison of choice04:42
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n8k99Jucato i don't think google talk does teh voice channel in kopete04:48
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gelliothI need help with the Adept04:48
JucatoI don't think it does in Konqueror either...04:48
Jucato!ask | gellioth04:48
ubotugellioth: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:48
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evsophomore2009n8k99: i have a question04:48
evsophomore2009n8k99: how do i uninstall Mozilla?04:48
n8k99Mozilla or Firefox?04:48
n8k99did you use adept, apt-get or aptitude to install it04:48
Darkkishn8k99: what is the difference exactally?04:49
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n8k99none really- they all pull it down from teh repos04:49
DaSkreech!info seamonkey04:49
n8k99which is what i was reall y getting at04:49
ubotuPackage seamonkey does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:49
sivaji!ask | gellioth04:49
ubotugellioth: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:51
DaSkreech!info seamonkey gutsy04:51
evsophomore2009n8k99: apt-get04:51
gelliothI can not use it, when Im trying to download something says"that the packets were stoped"04:51
ubotuPackage seamonkey does not exist in gutsy04:51
n8k99then apt-get remove mozilla04:51
n8k99although you could use either of the other two just as well04:51
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sivajin8k99 use purging04:51
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n8k99sivaji: ?04:51
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wsjuniorsudo aptitude purge mozilla04:51
gelliothI have a bad english but I need help04:52
n8k99ah yes- thanks04:52
sivajin8k99 sorry04:52
wsjuniorgellioth: what do u need?04:52
n8k99no problem--04:52
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gelliothI can not download nothing with the Adept04:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:53
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sivajin8k99 i think  remove will delete that package from harddisk but purge will not delete04:53
DaSkreechgellioth: have you tried from the command line?04:53
n8k99so purge will uninstall?04:53
wsjuniorgellioth: fetch the list of updates before trying to install something (sudo apt-get update)04:54
gelliothnop I am new using Linux and I understand nothing04:54
sivajin8k99 yes04:54
DaSkreechgellioth: what are you trying to install04:54
Jucaton8k99, sivaji: purge will uninstall *and* delete the related system config files (not the ones in $HOME)04:54
n8k99sivaji: so if i want to uninstall but not delete from my harddisk, i use purge?04:55
DaSkreechn8k99: what?04:55
gelliothcodecs to mp3, games, drivers and program to my capture card04:55
Jucaton8k99: no. you just use "remove" then04:55
DaSkreechgellioth: did you click on fetch updates ?04:55
sivajiJucato what is the diff between remove and remove --purge04:55
n8k99DaSkreech: Jucato that's what i do and that's what i was recommending to evsophomore2009 in response to his question04:55
Jucaton8k99: but note that "remove" deletes the program, but not the related config files04:56
gelliothI will try that04:56
n8k99sivaji: was enlightening me on the finer points which i was not aware of04:56
n8k99Jucato: which i want if i decide to reinstall the package later04:56
wsjuniorgellioth: this can help u with one part of the problem: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:56
Jucatosivaji: remove just uninstalls. remove --purge uninstalls and purges. you use "apt-get remove --purge", but with aptitude you use "aptitude purge" only04:56
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Jucaton8k99: then plain "remove" is for you04:57
n8k99not me-- its for evsophomore200904:57
Jucatosivaji: apt-get doesn't have a direct "purge" command. it only comes as a switch (--purge) to the remove command04:57
sivajiJucato ho ic04:57
Jucatoaptitude has a direct "purge" command04:58
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sivajigellioth what error u get when u try to download04:59
Darkkishhow do i rename a device?04:59
Darkkishlike my portable hard drive04:59
n8k99Darkkish: right button click> rename04:59
gelliothI will try to translate that04:59
Darkkishn8k99: it gives me an error04:59
DarkkishAccess Denied05:00
DarkkishI know it's really easy to change a device name in windows lol05:00
NickPrestaDarkkish, you will want to open up Konqueror with root privileges. In the console, type: "kdesu konqueror". Supply your password and then rename. Then, close Konqueror.05:01
DarkkishNickPresta: i tried that05:01
gelliotha trouble with the downloading or some paquets were stoped (that I understand)05:01
NickPrestaDarkkish, wait, are you talking about a mounted device or a file/folder that have root ownership?05:02
sivajigellioth use "sudo dpkg -configure --a"05:02
gelliothsorry I have a bad english05:02
Darkkishmounted device.05:02
NickPrestaDarkkish, remount the device with the new name. You can't simply "rename it", AFAIK05:04
DarkkishNickPresta: but every time i remount it it will go back to it's old name.05:04
gelliothoption -o unknow05:04
evsophomore2009hey guys, thanks for your help05:05
evsophomore2009i finally got Frostwire uninstalled, and Limewire installed05:05
evsophomore2009and i got my Adept thing to fix i think05:05
Darkkishcan someone remind me how to mount something?05:05
sivaji  gellioth    "sudo dpkg --configure -a"05:05
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sivajievsophomore2009 dude how u r able to install limewire05:06
DaSkreechgellioth: copy and paste this in the konsole05:06
DaSkreechgellioth: sudo dpkg --configure -a05:06
DaSkreechDarkkish: sudo mount /dev/name /path/to/folder05:07
NickPrestaDarkkish, perhaps something like: "sudo mount -t smbfs -o defaults /dev/sda5 /media/Windows"05:07
evsophomore2009Sivaji: how am i able to?05:07
gelliothsays: the area of the database of state is blocked by aother process05:07
Darkkishmount: No medium found05:07
evsophomore2009Sivaji: save the file to the desktop05:07
sivajievsophomore2009 which file05:08
NickPrestaDarkkish, you need to change /dev/sda5 to whatever your windows partition is.05:08
evsophomore2009Sivaji: ** www.limewire.com05:08
evsophomore2009hold on05:08
DaSkreechgellioth: did you close adept?05:08
NickPrestaDarkkish, your portable drive, rather.05:08
DarkkishNickPresta: duh05:08
evsophomore2009Sivaji: do you know how to install it? Because i know how now05:08
DaSkreechgellioth:sorry forgot to tell you to close it first05:08
gelliothI will close it05:08
DaSkreechgellioth: close it and then press up on the console05:08
evsophomore2009Sivaji: Well i need to know what your using...Kubuntu, Ubuntu05:09
gelliothand now?05:09
NickPrestaDarkkish, does your destination directory exist?05:09
Darkkishyeah but i'm not sure what the name of the drive is in teh device list05:09
DarkkishI think it's hdc but i'm not positive05:09
sivajievsophomore2009 is it in exe format or .deb format05:09
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Darkkishoh i found it05:10
Darkkishit's sda105:10
DaSkreechgellioth: yes?05:10
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Darkkishokay so now on my desktop the icon says05:10
DarkkishPORTABLE (Portable)05:10
gelliothI did it and now?05:10
Darkkishbefore it said PORTABLE (PORTABLE)05:10
Darkkishso clearly a label is incorrect05:10
DaSkreechgellioth: press up on the console you should get back the same command. Press enter and run it again05:10
evsophomore2009Sivaji: select the DEB format05:11
gelliothto run adept?05:11
sivajiya i got it thank u dude05:11
DaSkreechgellioth: no05:11
DaSkreechgellioth: sudo dpkg --configure -a05:11
DarkkishI want to try gnome without effing up my kubuntu05:12
Darkkishaka i don't want to install them both at the same time05:12
gelliothI did it05:12
sivajievsophomore2009 u got any error when u install that limewire05:13
DaSkreechgellioth: is it running?05:13
DaSkreechDarkkish: hope you like partitions05:13
gelliothwhat must run? :-(05:13
gelliothkonsole do not show nothing05:14
klobsterhow do I disable ctrl-alt-del?05:14
DaSkreechgellioth: it gave you back a prompt?05:15
DaSkreechklobster: from /etc/inittab05:15
DaSkreechgellioth: it's just sitting there and waiting05:15
DarkkishDaSkreech: thats a good idea, i'll try a partition editor05:16
DarkkishDaSkreech: to rename my drive05:17
klobsterDaSkreech: THank you05:17
kkerwinHi. I have an external hard drive that I am trying to get non-root users to be able to write to, but haven't had much success.05:17
DaSkreechkkerwin: what is it formatted as ?05:17
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kkerwinDaSkreech: ext2. I have checked, and all permissions are set to 777, and owned by a non-root user. Still no joy.05:18
DaSkreechkkerwin: have you read the options in man mount ?05:19
kkerwinDaSkreech: Not thoroughly.05:19
DaSkreechwhat have you tried?05:20
kkerwinDaSkreech: Care to make the haystack a little smaller? ;-)05:20
DaSkreechusers and umask would be my guess05:20
kkerwinDaSkreech: I've tried adding the users option to fstab05:20
kkerwinDaSkreech: Ok. Will try umask then ...05:21
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evsophomore2009Sivaji: no i never got an error05:21
evsophomore2009Sivaji: what does the error sy05:21
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DaSkreechgellioth: how is it going?05:21
sivajinothing now i can download because of one smart guy called evsophomore200905:22
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DaSkreechhi hybrid05:23
gelliothbad nothing is upenning05:23
evsophomore2009Sivaji: haha im not too smart dude, im pretty new to Kubutnu too05:23
kkerwinDaSkreech: umask causes the fs-type to not be recognized.05:23
wolferinewhat can I use to image my partition, once I have everything the way I want?05:23
evsophomore2009Sivaji: but thanks for the complement05:23
DaSkreechgellioth: what were you installing?05:24
evsophomore2009Sivaji: is there anything else i can help you with?05:24
hitmanWillywolferine, dd05:24
gelliothcodecs to mp3, games etc05:24
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sivajievsophomore2009 nothing dude05:24
wolferine       dd - convert and copy a file05:24
evsophomore2009Sivaji: mmk05:25
sivajievsophomore2009 mmk means05:25
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DaSkreechgellioth: ok lets start with codecs for mp305:25
hitmanWillywolferine, yup, set the input as /dev/<your_partition> output as an image file05:25
DaSkreechgellioth: press ctrl+C on the konsole it should give you back a prompt05:25
hitmanWillywolferine, does a bit-by-bit transfer05:26
wolferineI can make an image from it?05:26
DaSkreechgellioth: type sudo apt-get update05:26
DaSkreechlet me know if it does anything05:26
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evsophomore2009Im here to help if anyone needs help!!!05:26
kkerwinDaSkreech: Hmm. I see now. I didn't set a value for umask. I tried umask=777, but to the same ill-effect.05:27
wolferineevsophomore2009, can you tell me how I setup a running mail server?05:27
DaSkreechkkerwin: do you know how to use umask ?05:27
hitmanWillywolferine, just be advised that the image file will be the exact same size as the partition05:27
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kkerwinDaSkreech: From what I've read, it's raw octal.05:27
wolferineright, so I need to be concerned about the largest file size on an ext3 partition05:27
kkerwinIe: same usage as chmod.05:27
DaSkreechkkerwin: ah so what do you expect the umask 777 to do ?05:28
kkerwinDaSkreech Make it rwx to everyone.05:28
hitmanWillywolferine, IIRC you can even mount the image file itself05:28
DaSkreechwolferine: no he means that the image will be the same size as your partition05:28
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DaSkreechwolferine: so if you are imaging a 80 GB partition you will get an 80 GB file05:29
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DaSkreechkkerwin: not make it --- for evereyone which is what it does :)05:29
wolferinebut writing that large of a file, I should be concerned about how large my partition type can handle05:29
DaSkreechkkerwin: try umask=002205:29
gelliothand now? "reading packets list... done"05:29
DaSkreechgellioth: great :)05:29
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DaSkreechgellioth: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs05:30
hitmanWillywolferine, i think you'll probably be alright with ext305:30
wolferineso what packages to I need to run a mailserver?05:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:30
wolferinehey, I think so too, should be <10GB05:30
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mailserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:30
ubotumail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com05:31
wolferineits a complicated topic :)05:31
hitmanWilly!hitmanWilly is not in kindergarden05:31
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sfirequestion: is it possible to put something in rc.local that will require user input?  The application I want to run on every bootup is going to ask for a password and I want it to do it before X loads05:33
gellioththe packet is not able05:33
kkerwinDaSkreech: I have the following in my fstab, to no avail: /dev/sdb1       /media/drive    ext2    user,noauto,umask=0022  0 005:34
sivaji2009gellioth what is u r problem05:34
Dr_willissfire,  it MIGHT show up on the console asking.. but it may not.. I dont advise doing it that way.05:34
DaSkreechsfire: why don't you just supply it the password?05:34
DaSkreechkkerwin: users I think05:34
Dr_willissfire,  because X will load, and show its login, and on the console you might be seeing the input prompt.05:34
sfireDaSkreech: I don't want the password in the script05:34
DaSkreechsivaji2009: he's trying to install things05:35
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gelliothI cant download nothing05:35
DaSkreechsfire: read it from an external encrypted file05:35
sfireDr_willis: how would you do it?05:35
sivaji2009DaSkreech do u know y he is not able to install05:35
DaSkreechsivaji2009: no still trying to get it sorted out05:35
Dr_willissfire,  depends on exactly what it is you are doing.05:35
kkerwinDaSkreech: Still nothing05:35
DaSkreechgellioth: its not downloading ?05:35
sfireDaSkreech: I don't want anyone else to have access to it.. hence the password05:35
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hitmanWillysfire, everything in rc.local is run as root IIRC05:36
sivaji2009DaSkreech what he want to download05:36
DaSkreechkkerwin: how are you testing this in the fstab ?05:36
DaSkreechsivaji2009: * :)05:36
wolferineso no idea no what to install for a mail server?05:36
sfireDr_willis: its a logon for a encrypted file system05:36
DaSkreechdoesn't matter doesnt' seem to work05:36
DaSkreechProbably needs a new server05:36
kkerwinDaSkreech: /dev/sdb1       /media/drive    ext2    user,noauto,umask=0022  0 005:36
DaSkreechwolferine: try postfix05:37
DaSkreechkkerwin: no I meant it's easier to just mount it yourself and see if others can get in05:37
wolferineso install postfix, can I use that with php?05:37
sivaji2009gellioth close adept and try this "sudo apt-get install PACKAGE "05:37
sivaji2009gellioth package in what u need to be installed05:38
DaSkreechwolferine: php has nothing to do with a mail server05:38
gelliothto hear mp305:38
wolferinebut php uses a mailserver05:38
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DaSkreechgellioth: maybe your server is down05:38
DaSkreechcan you pastebin the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list05:39
sivaji2009gellioth install amarok05:39
DaSkreech!paste | gellioth05:39
ubotugellioth: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:39
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louis_hey guys05:39
kadazhey guys05:39
louis_if i want to install gnome do i type apt-get install gnome?05:39
gelliothAnd what can I do DaSkreech?05:40
DaSkreechgellioth: pastebin the file /etc/apt/sources.list05:41
wolferinelouis_, not exactly05:41
sivaji2009gellioth "sudo apt-get install amarok" type this at terminal05:41
wolferinekubuntu is ubuntu running KDE, ubuntu is gnome05:41
louis_wolferine, how do i do it?05:41
evsophomore2009hey does anyone know of a program that plays Movies???05:41
evsophomore2009like a video Player?05:41
kadazI noticed that when I delete some programs like kexi, kamera, konversation, etc that it has kubunto-desktop selected also for removal05:41
Dr_willislots of them05:41
kadazis this safe?05:41
wolferineubuntu running gnome*05:41
kadazKubuntu desktop system05:41
kadazThis package depends on all of the packages in the Kubuntu desktop system05:41
kadazIt is safe to remove this package if some of the desktop system packages are not desired.05:41
Dr_williskadaz,  thats because kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package thats just a packatge that lists other packages..05:41
sivaji2009evsophomore2009 vlc is best05:41
wolferinelouis_, you want to just have ubuntu maybe05:41
wolferineunless your trying both05:41
Jucatolouis_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome05:41
Dr_williskadaz,  proberly best to just leave all that stuff alone.05:41
kadazso is it safe to remove parts of the package??05:41
DaSkreechlouis_: you type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop05:41
kadazoh seriously05:42
wolferinelouis_, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop05:42
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: kaffiene05:42
kadazmenu edit then.05:42
sivaji2009evsophomore2009  " http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html"05:42
louis_so i just want to stop using kde and start using gnome05:42
wolferineor you can have both05:42
MinatakuHeya, Dr_willis05:42
DaSkreechkadaz: You can remove kubuntu-desktop05:42
gelliothAnd what I must paste bin?05:42
evsophomore2009Kaffine plays videos?05:42
sivaji2009louis_ install gnome desktop and set gnome as default05:42
wolferinelouis_, you can remove kubunt-desktop, or just keep KDE05:42
DaSkreech!paste | gellioth05:42
ubotugellioth: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:42
HymnToLifeKaffeine does, though :p05:43
Jucatoevsophomore2009: it's primarily a video player05:43
louis_ooh okay, thanks DaSkreech05:43
DaSkreechgellioth: go to that site and paste verything in that file05:43
louis_now how do i stop the terminal from downloading whatever apt-get install gnome does?05:43
evsophomore2009oh didnt know that05:43
DaSkreechlouis_: ctrl+C05:43
hitmanWillyactually, xine plays videos, kaffeine just plays xine :P05:43
HymnToLifeKaffeine is basically YAXF05:43
Dr_willishay Minataku  ya package SHOULD be there friday05:43
HymnToLifeYet Another Xine FRontend :p05:43
kadazdoesnt that remove  the kubuntu gui or just removed a selections out of the packages05:43
MinatakuDr_willis: Kickass! :D05:43
JucatohitmanWilly: xine plays audio and video.. amarok uses xine05:44
HymnToLifeI personnally prefer KMPlayer though05:44
Dr_willisMinataku,  which suprised me. when they said it would be that quick.05:44
wolferinewhat can I use to watch TV with my ATI AIW ?05:44
MinatakuDr_willis: Yeah, that's pretty fast05:44
hitmanWillyJucato, i thought kaff was a frontend to xine as well?05:44
MinatakuWhat's in this first one?05:44
Dr_willisMinataku,  wife has been at the  emergancy room since 5 pm here. :( so  i will work on the actual amiga's when i get the chance.05:44
HymnToLifehitmanWilly, it is05:44
louis_wolfernine, if i remove kde then gnome will already be there?05:44
JucatohitmanWilly: it can use mplayer, xine or gstreamer (I think). it can use multiple backends05:44
MinatakuDr_willis: Eep! Is she okay?05:44
HymnToLifelouis_, np05:44
DaSkreechkadaz: Yes?05:44
Dr_willisMinataku,  just a lot of pain, and dehydrated.05:44
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MinatakuWell, obviously not if she's in the ER05:44
hitmanWillyahh, k...05:45
MinatakuWell, I hope they can get that sorted out05:45
osiriswolferine, lintv i think is the name05:45
MinatakuDr_willis: Take your time, no rush ^^05:45
louis_okay so i have to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop...05:45
louis_then how do i make it the default?05:45
louis_and remove KDE?05:45
JucatohitmanWilly: but Kaffeine's primary function is to be a frontend to xine's video playback. but it can play audio as well of course05:45
Dr_willisshe couldent keep nothing down and she only weighs 120lb. They put in like 3 iv bags of saline. :) perkered her up.05:45
DaSkreechgellioth: when you paste it give us the URL that it generates in here?05:45
HymnToLifesweeeeeet, I got DVDs playing in OBSD05:45
evsophomore2009so on limewire05:45
Dr_willislouis_,  why bother removing kde at all.05:45
HymnToLifeGod, I like that OS05:45
MinatakuDr_willis: Heehee05:45
evsophomore2009how do i play a .mov?05:45
Jucatolouis_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome05:45
MinatakuI gotta go take my pills, brb05:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codecw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:45
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:45
kadazyes for which???????05:46
hitmanWillyJucato, well, at least im not totally off-base here :)05:46
DaSkreechlouis_: install it then apt-get --purge kdelibs2c4a I think05:46
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sivaji2009evsophomore2009 vlc plays    all type of vedio05:46
DaSkreechkadaz: Hmm?05:46
Dr_willisvlc is a darn nice video player. I even use it under windows05:46
louis_k thanks man05:46
testdoes anybody know where I can get this badbunny.odg file?05:46
JucatohitmanWilly:  well, that an app uses xine isn't really an assurance of what it can do. Amarok uses xine, but can't play videos :)05:46
HymnToLife[05:46]  <sivaji2009> evsophomore2009 vlc plays    all type of vedio <= ...almost05:46
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HymnToLifeI even still prefer WMP over VLC :/05:47
sivaji2009Dr_willis but is not attractive05:47
sivaji2009Dr_willis poor skin05:47
Jucatomplayer is a curious thing :)05:47
kadazdaskreech, the question is, Is it safe to remove these programs out of the package05:47
DaSkreechkadaz: yes05:47
evsophomore2009Sivaji2009: where can i find this?05:47
louis_hey does removing the KDE desktop remove all the KDE apps too?05:47
kadazand if so, will this affect the KDE desktop from appearing05:47
DaSkreechkadaz: you can always install them back in05:47
sivaji2009evsophomore2009 what vlc05:47
DaSkreechlouis_: no05:48
HymnToLifelouis_, define "the KDE desktop"05:48
Jucatokadaz: depends on which, if you notice that it will remove half of your system, then you'll know it isn't safe05:48
Dr_willissivaji2009,  when its fullscreened.. i dont care. :005:48
louis_kubuntu desktop05:48
HymnToLife'cause, well, "the desktop" is just a bunch of apps...05:48
louis_after I install ubuntu desktop05:48
Dr_willisremoving all the kubuntu-desktop packages can be a bit of a huge task.05:48
Jucatolouis_: if you follow the page that I gave you, that will remove everything related to kubuntu (kde apps included)05:48
HymnToLiferemoving kubuntu-desktop will remove close to nothing05:48
sivaji2009evsophomore2009 just fetch update and type sudo apt-get install vlc05:48
louis_with sudo apg-get --purge kdelibs2c4a05:48
HymnToLifejust the cheesy artwork :p05:48
Dr_willislouis_,  you really limiteed on disk space?05:48
louis_no, but i just don't want to have it cause problems05:49
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louis_i feel like kubuntu is less stable than ubuntu... maybe i've been smoking though...05:50
louis_maybe it's just beryl...05:50
DaSkreechDr_willis: What?05:50
sivaji2009i can modify the size of linux partition using gparted or qtparted05:50
Dr_willislouis_,  having kubuntu + ubuntu both on the system will NOT cause problems.05:50
Darkkishwhy does deleting the #wacom only entries eff up xorg?05:50
DaSkreechlouis_: ha ha :)05:50
sivaji2009all the buttons , menus remains inactive05:50
Dr_willisDarkED,  i would guess ya dident edit the last line or so in the config. :)05:50
Dr_willisoops Darkkish  i ment. :)05:51
MinatakuAnd GTK is far more skittish than Qt05:51
HymnToLifeDarkkish, most likely because you didn't delete _all_ of them05:51
DarkkishI deleted all three and i had to go into recovery mode to fix my xorg05:51
Dr_willisi hate it when my irc client only shows part of the nicks. :)05:51
Dr_willisDarkkish,  check the bottom of the config. theres a server setting for one of them that also needs changed05:51
louis_maybe i should fresh install ubuntu...05:51
Dr_willislouis_,  why? did you break somthing?05:52
Darkkishin the server layout?05:52
DaSkreechMinataku: it is?05:52
MinatakuGTK seems to require absolute perfection05:52
MinatakuOtherwise is sprays STDERR with a constant stream of errors05:53
Biovoreits very chatty :-P05:53
MinatakuGTK-critical this and OMG-WTFError that05:53
sivaji2009i  *cant* modify the size of linux partition using gparted or qtparted05:53
DarkkishDr_willis: the entry in server layout that has the names of the sections?05:53
louis_Dr_willis, good to hear!  just a little leftover paranoia from windows lol05:53
louis_hey you can't use fluxbox with beryl/emerald themes can you?05:54
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DaSkreechsivaji2009: if gellioth comes back take a look at his servers and see if they are pingable. the server hes' pulling from may have died05:54
GSF1200SAmarok crashes whenever im offline05:54
DaSkreechassuming that gellioth is a he :)05:54
Dr_willisDarkkish,  since ive removed mine. I cant tell ya. :) theres a bot factoid on it.05:54
Dr_willisberyl replaces the window manager i think.. so No not with fluxbox.05:55
louis_Dr_willis, not really, but there's just a few usability thigs that are bothering me with KDE05:55
MinatakuBeryl is a WM, yeah05:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:55
sivaji2009DaSkreech i cant get u05:55
MinatakuSo it either runs alone or under a DE05:55
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:55
louis_it's really minutia, but I'm pretty picky about how i want my system to handle different stuff05:56
DaSkreechsivaji2009: Of course not I'm all the way over here nah nah nahnanah nah05:56
gelliothwhats up with the server?05:56
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors05:56
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DaSkreechMinataku: more accurately it's compositing manger05:56
MinatakuYou'd think that ubuntu would have their own page on it05:56
GSF1200SAmarok crashes offline whenever I try to play a song- kaffeine wont play files offline, and konqueror doesnt load any mpeg thumbnails05:56
MinatakuBut apparantly eliminating useless cruft is something... ah, whatever05:57
DaSkreechgellioth: I'm guessing the reason that you can't download anything is there is no where to download them from05:57
MinatakuThere's so much I think they do that's stupid it's not even worth complaining about05:57
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DaSkreechgellioth: have you found the file /etc/apt/sources.list yet ?05:57
DaSkreechGSF1200S: Local files ?05:57
DarkkishDr_willis: when I open things I get an error that says invalid or uninitialized input device 16905:58
DaSkreechgellioth: have you pasted the contents into the site?05:58
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Darkkishdoes anyone have any idea what that is?05:58
Minataku!BadDevice | Darkkish05:58
ubotuDarkkish: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors05:58
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GSF1200SDaSkreech- all ready changed the amarokrc config with a ~ and the same with the amarok folder.. amarok still crashes05:58
gelliothnop.... I will do it05:59
DaSkreechGSF1200S: woah05:59
sivaji2009DaSkreech he is having kubuntu6.0105:59
DaSkreechGSF1200S: did you redo your collection ?05:59
GSF1200Smaybe its another local config that causes the crash?05:59
DaSkreechsivaji2009: no clue05:59
MinatakuGSF1200S: Try a better player, like XMMS or Audacious05:59
Darkkishk I'm restarting X05:59
Darkkishwish me luck05:59
GSF1200SDaSkreech- i did.. ive only got 500 songs.06:00
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DaSkreechdo you have podcasts or something that relies on being online?06:00
Darkkishyay it worked :)06:00
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GSF1200SMinataku- doesnt change the problem with Kaffeine and konqueror mpeg video thumbnails06:00
DarkkishMan I'm hungry06:00
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GSF1200Spretty crappy solution.. I like Amarok06:01
DarkkishI love "Who's Line"06:01
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GSF1200SNo.. no podcasts or radio stations06:01
MinatakuDarkkish: You can eat them. But they provide 0 nutrition.06:01
louis_hold up... the Gnome download is like 725 mb ... isnt that a lot?06:01
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GSF1200SI even tried to manually connect to one to invoke a crash, and it just said it couldnt connect to a server06:01
louis_it shouldnt matter, but i'm on dialup =)06:02
MinatakuGSF1200S: Launch one from Konsole next time you're offline06:02
DaSkreechdepends on your connection06:02
DaSkreechha ha :)06:02
louis_bc 725 mb is like a whole cd...06:02
MinatakuAnd save all the errors it spits out to the Konsole06:02
MinatakuThat'll help us out06:02
sivaji2009where i can get skin for vlc player06:02
GSF1200SMinataku- I did.. it doesnt give me an error at crash, but it does give an error at startup06:03
MinatakuGSF1200S: It SHOULD give an error at crash06:03
GSF1200Sjust for t/s I ran amarok kdesu and still the same06:03
MinatakuPurge them and reinstall them06:03
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gelliothI did it DaSkreech06:04
GSF1200Skind of hard when im on the road with no internet.. this computer isnt mine06:04
MinatakuMaybe you got bad packages or something06:04
DaSkreechgellioth: give us the URL that it gives back to you06:04
louis_anybody?  Is 725 mb about right for unbuntu-desktop?06:04
Darkkishberyl won't start :(06:04
Darkkishwhy won't beryl start06:04
GSF1200Sits a lappy :(06:04
sivaji2009where i can get skin for vlc player06:04
louis_darkkish, #ubuntu-effects06:05
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:05
GSF1200SWhats crazy is kaffeine konqueror and amarok all work perfect once i have a connection06:05
kadazis there such thing as a animated png?06:05
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Minatakukadaz: Yeah06:05
MinatakuExcept it's an MNG06:05
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MinatakuSame format, except with animation extensions06:05
MinatakuAla animated GIF06:05
kadazdoes it work in KDE as a replacement?06:06
DaSkreechgellioth: you pasted into the site and clicked the button?06:06
MinatakuNo idea06:06
DaSkreechOh ok :)06:06
DaSkreechgellioth: sorry a little slow there :)06:06
gelliothand now?06:06
MinatakuAnyway, off to Mugello Autodromo Internazionale... not IRL, of course, just in a videogame X306:07
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DaSkreechgellioth: wait while I read it06:07
kadazis there a desktop dictionary for KDE like in gnome?06:07
DaSkreechgellioth: ha ha06:08
DaSkreechgellioth: how did you open the file ?06:08
gelliothwithout sudo06:09
GSF1200SMinataku- I get this feedback from the terminal at start (bear with me, I have to type it)06:09
DaSkreechgellioth: in kate?06:09
DaSkreechgellioth: ok press Alt+F2 and type this in it06:09
DaSkreechgellioth: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:09
DaSkreechgellioth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25473/06:10
DaSkreechcopy the contents of that and paste it over the file06:11
GSF1200Skdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::insertKAccel( kaccel = 0x8098d00 ):Kaccel object already contains an action name "play_pause"06:11
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gelliothWhat I do with that, I must erease sourses.list?06:12
DaSkreechgellioth: yes replace it with the information in the link I just gave you06:12
wolferinehow do you remove a scheduled package from a previous install, from cli?06:13
gelliothDaSkreech my time is going down06:14
DaSkreechgellioth: yes save06:14
gelliothI saved and now?06:15
DaSkreechgellioth: if you open adept and press fetch updates you should be able to download now06:15
DaSkreechgellioth: if you cannot please let me know06:15
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louis_how to I run chmod +x on a file?06:19
louis_i'm trying to run a script06:19
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HymnToLifelouis_, chmod +x filename06:20
HymnToLifeyou might need sudo06:20
erichjsudo chmod +x <filename>06:20
DaSkreechlouis_: or type sh path/to/file06:20
louis_okay. any way to run a terminal from the desktop? i dont know the path to desktop06:21
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erichjcd /home/<user>/Desktop06:21
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erichjor if you are already in home cd /Desktop06:21
gelliothI am waiting for headers....06:21
wolferinehow can I remove a previous "attempted" install of a package, which I cancelled?06:22
erichj!dpkgfix | wolferine06:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dpkgfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:22
DaSkreechgellioth: from the fetch updates ?06:22
MinatakuGSF1200S: Eep06:22
wolferinefrom cli, use aptitude?06:22
MinatakuThat's not the error I expected06:22
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dkpg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:22
MinatakuThough it's also not seemingly related, either06:23
DaSkreecherichj: may want to aspell that06:23
gellioththe list is updated06:23
wolferineso you dont actually know how to do it erichj ?06:23
DaSkreechgellioth: ok06:23
DaSkreechtry install libxine-extracodecs06:23
gelliothI will try06:24
Minataku!dpkg ! erichj06:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dpkg ! erichj - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:24
Minataku!dpkg | erichj06:24
ubotuerichj: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.06:24
erichjgee thanks06:24
MinatakuI guess I need a spelchekur two06:24
Minatakuerichj: np06:24
DaSkreechwolferine: what are you trying to do?06:24
erichjit's like sudo dpkg configure -a or something06:24
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:25
wolferineim having issues with aptitude, I quit an install of a package, part way through06:25
wolferineand apt. keeps attempting to install it06:25
erichjthere you go06:25
Minatakuwolferine: Let it finish installing it then just remove it06:25
GSF1200SMinataku: yeah, and since a whole slew of crap that Ive done hasnt helped, I might have to switch back to gnome. Ive worked this one for days +(06:25
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wolferineah, thats not an option06:25
MinatakuGSF1200S: That's pretty bizarre06:25
DaSkreechgellioth: not installing?06:26
wolferineI just want to remove it from the 'installing' list06:26
erichjwolferine: that will remove it06:26
wolferineits flashplugin-nonfree06:26
erichjwolferine: if it is a broken package06:26
GSF1200Sits funny to watch the rest of the mpeg thumbnails load the SECOND my wifi connects06:26
wolferinewhich takes a night to install06:26
gelliothnow is downloading :-)06:26
wolferineremove it, before its installed?06:26
DaSkreechgellioth: please enjoy the rest of your time with Kubuntu06:26
MinatakuGSF1200S: That's bizarro, I mean, com-frickin'-pletely06:26
erichjjust run the command06:26
erichjtrust us06:27
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erichjit makes adept all happy06:27
gellioththanks my friend06:27
wolferinerun which command?06:27
Minatakuerichj: You sound like a drug pusher06:27
wsjunioris there any up to date version of this howto? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Fglrx_lowpower06:27
erichjsudo dpkg --configure -a06:27
gelliothnow I have to go to sleep I will look for you later06:27
Minataku"Come on, just snort it, it'll make you all happy, trust me"06:27
wsjuniori have fglrx installed but i dont have  /etc/default/fglrx  and /etc/acpi/fglrx-powermode.sh06:28
wolferineno output06:28
erichjwsjunior: log in and update the wikipage06:28
wolferinewhat does it do?06:28
MinatakuhitmanWilly: YOU FOOL! THAT WAS PURE OXYGEN!06:28
GSF1200SMinataku... yeah, well, thanks for the help.. hopefully Ill figure it out eventually- Id try PCLOS, but they dont have my sound driver in the kernel version theyre using.. jesus, do I have to DREAM about music..lol06:28
erichjwolferine: it fixes your var lock with adept06:28
hitmanWillyOH NOES!!! XD06:28
MinatakuGSF1200S: Heh06:28
wolferineaptitude isnt letting me instal06:29
erichjrebooting probably won't work, but i don't want to stop you06:30
wolferineu cant06:30
MinatakuAh, this race is a long one... two laps at Nrburgring Nordschliefe06:30
wolferineits already back to the splash06:30
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Seek_TherapyI need HELP06:32
erichjSeek_Therapy: xanax will help you06:32
wolferinedont we all?06:32
Seek_TherapyI can't seem to be able to get my printer working with Ubuntu06:33
erichjmake and model?06:33
Seek_TherapyHP deskjet 1220c06:33
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Tism0pwhere do i go to ask a networking question?06:34
Seek_TherapyHurry UP !!06:34
erichjdid you check the wiki?06:34
Seek_TherapyUhm!! today erichj06:35
erichjSeek_Therapy: check http://wiki.ubuntu.con06:35
erichjSeek_Therapy: check http://wiki.ubuntu.com06:35
Seek_TherapyGet the lead out!06:36
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Seek_Therapythat link certainly didn't work06:37
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erichjthe second one does06:37
Tism0pi want to use ubuntu for a Home server box, to be a DHCP Server, SMB server and also do my firewall. i was also thinking of having 3 NICs- 1 for dsl modem interface, two to the switch, i also would like the box to be headless, and have the option of web/ftp facitlies06:37
Seek_Therapyoh dear god...you typed .con06:37
Tism0pdont shoot the messenger06:38
erichjwhy two to the switch?06:38
Tism0pi was thinking for double bandwidth i have heavy load on the server06:39
Tism0pone tx one rx06:39
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Seek_Therapywhat messenger ..that link has nothing about HP deskjet06:40
Seek_TherapySweet Jeasus...How hard is this06:40
Seek_Therapyget with the program people06:40
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/06:41
Seek_TherapyJust kidding with you all ..take your time06:41
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hitmanWillySeek_Therapy, hp...you probably need the hplip driver IIRC06:42
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erichjafter that it's up to you to figure out the point and click wizard that is provided for you. shouldn't be too hard for a smart guy like you06:43
Seek_TherapyAww! you are so sweet erichj06:43
Seek_Therapyi am a girl...not a guy06:43
erichjthat explains alot06:44
DangbertQuestion, I just got a new (refurb) Gateway dual core AMD 64 machine from Tigerdirect and am having a problem.  When I try to do the i nstall I get an error message that says some about "IO-ACPI" indicating that it cannot connect to the ACPI.  How do I get Kubuntu to install without acpi?06:44
erichjgonna be kind of hard06:45
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erichjkind of something you need06:45
DangbertI know SUSe 10.2 has the option not to install with acpi, I was hoping Kubuntu did also06:45
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hitmanWillyDangbert, you may be able to tweak the bios settings on that one06:46
erichjtry the alternate install disc and use advanced install06:46
MinatakuThat's IO-APIC06:46
DangbertOkay, and do what in  Advanced Install06:46
erichjdoesn't gateway usually lock out bios features like that?06:46
MinatakuCompletely different06:46
MinatakuACPI != APIC06:46
Seek_Therapydamn it I am using frisky not v5.10 (Breezy) & v6.06 (Dapper)06:47
erichjgood point06:47
Seek_Therapydoes that matter06:47
erichjMinataku: read his question wrong06:47
erichjSeek_Therapy: it is supported in feisty06:47
Minatakuerichj: It happens06:47
DangbertI an using Frisky and do not see an advance selection06:47
Minatakuerichj: He read the error wrong, actually06:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:47
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MinatakuDangbert: Just try the alternate install CD06:47
MinatakuDon't tweak anything, just see if it works06:48
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DangbertWhat alternate install cd?06:48
hitmanWillySeek_Therapy, the 6.10 ones should work at least as well in feisty (hopefully) :)06:48
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal06:48
MinatakuIt should be located in the same place as the Desktop CD06:48
DangbertI wil take a look  - thanks06:48
erichjIO-APIC provides multiprocessor interrupt support. so i you can disable one of the cores on your processor for the install you should be fine06:48
erichjand then reboot and enable after install06:49
Minatakuerichj: That won't work06:49
Minatakuerichj: If it fails on install it's gonna fail after, too06:49
MinatakuJust let him try the alternate06:49
erichjyeah but he can install a package for it06:49
erichjtry the alternate06:50
erichjit will work06:50
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erichjcan't he just pass noapic option for kernel during install?06:52
Seek_Therapywell HOT DAMN ! erichj...i got it working06:52
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erichjimagine that, who says you don't need a man in this day and age06:53
Dangbertdoes "noacpi" work?06:53
Seek_Therapyexcept its taking up all my ink06:53
Seek_Therapyon the test page06:53
dandy_hi there06:53
erichjDangbert: well is it and acpi or apic problem06:54
dandy_im pilipino06:54
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Dangbertit is an apic problem  the error message reads "MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC"06:55
erichjDangbert: try the alternate cd with not command line options first and if it screws up we can walk you through the process of passing the option to the kernel command line06:55
erichjwith no06:56
dandy_what are the basic in using konsole terminal? plss help me06:56
erichjit's like any other shell06:56
Seek_Therapybut you are a smart little bogger eater06:56
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erichjdandy_: have you ever used a shell before?06:57
dandy_not wet06:57
dandy_not yet sorry06:57
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DangbertOkay, I am downloading the Alternate now, will be back tomorrow06:58
dandy_o thanks06:58
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erichjthat will get you started06:58
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dandy_very much appreciated06:58
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DaSkreech!commands | dandy_07:00
ubotudandy_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal07:00
Seek_TherapyI have another quickie question07:02
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Seek_TherapyIs there a tool or something that can help make command line easier07:03
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DaSkreechSeek_Therapy: tab :)07:04
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Seek_TherapyNo! I am being serious07:04
Jucatodepends on what you would consider "easier"07:05
Seek_TherapyHow can i put this07:05
Jucatogenerally a "tool or something that can make command line easier" would be a GUI app for a particular command/app07:05
Seek_Therapysomething like 1+1=207:05
DaSkreechDang it we lost again!07:06
Jucatostill have to put it in better words... unless someone else can understand...07:06
DaSkreech!tab | Seek_Therapy07:06
ubotuSeek_Therapy: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.07:06
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Seek_Therapymaybe something that offers shock learning ...I seem to do better with the conditioning method of learning07:07
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Seek_Therapylet me try that07:09
akrussomeone here to help with proftpd? :)07:09
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akrus#proftpd seems inactive x_X07:09
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Tism0pwhat should i need to do to setup ubuntu as the server for my network?07:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:10
erichjwhat like dchp?07:11
Tism0peverything :)07:11
Tism0patm my dsl modem/router is doing it07:11
Tism0pdhcp and dns07:11
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Seek_Therapyson of a  biscuiteaters, thats two in a row...I better quit while i am ahead..it works07:12
erichjTism0p: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenSourceNetworkManagementServer?highlight=%28network%29%7C%28server%2907:12
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Tism0pthe xp boxes on my net can see the ubuntu shares07:12
Tism0pso i basically want ubuntu to do all the nbetwork controlling and also ftp serving07:12
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erichjTism0p: or you could search through adept for packages that do what you want07:14
erichjTism0p: there a a number of them07:14
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Tism0pftpd etc ?07:14
Tism0pi'm somewhat of a  nix noob07:14
DaSkreechSeek_Therapy: why do you want to learn the terminal so badly/quickly ?07:15
Tism0pi can translate and have been able to setup most of the stuff07:15
erichjlots of network packages out there07:16
Tism0pfigure out the sharing and permissons07:16
erichjthe wiki is a good resource07:16
Tism0pyeah  been reading lots07:16
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Tism0pso basically smb is going ok07:17
Tism0pi have router doing DNS and DHCP but want to relocate them to outside my lan so ubuntu can firewall07:17
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Tism0pthne upgrade my link to my switch two 2 NICs so i can get more throughput, but does it actually work?07:18
erichjwhy don't you use the firewall that your router provides07:18
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Tism0pi though nix would be better07:18
Tism0plikewise with dhcp and dns07:19
Tism0plike i said, bit of a noob, but i have been aware that nix is FAR supurioer to all in security and cutomablility07:19
erichjnot always the case, it would be different if you were talking hundreds of computers and possibly hundreds or thousands of ports and services07:19
Tism0patm  i have approx 10 devices on the lan. so not a great deal of performance increase?07:20
DaSkreechNight all!!!07:21
Tism0pwould nix be more realible?07:21
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erichjthats a hard question to answer, you realize your router is probably running linux07:22
Tism0pyeah have noticed that :)07:22
Tism0pjust embedded on  chip07:22
erichjand it's not so much a question of operating systems as it is a question of software.07:22
erichji would go with the router, take the time and setup port forwarding and create a tight firewall policy07:23
erichjno reason you can't just run firestarter on each box if you are worried07:24
erichjas far as dchp goes...that is what your router is designed to handle07:24
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Seek_TherapyI am going for it ....I am rolling the dice..can someone tell me if frisky can be used with this tutorial http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/RailsOnUbuntu07:28
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erichjSeek_Therapy: check adept, there are ruby packages in the repositories07:28
vishamany nmap users07:28
vishamnmap freezes my adsl modem07:28
vishampls help me07:28
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Seek_Therapyso i don't have tp use that setup page07:28
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vishamwhen i run the command 'nmap -sS -T4 -O scanme.nmap.org' my modem freezes after few seconds although nmap continues scanning and shows little progress07:28
erichjSeek_Therapy: thats right07:29
erichjopen adept do a search for ruby07:29
erichjthink the reps have ruby1.907:29
Seek_TherapyI am fairly new with linux/unix so not having a step by step will hurt me07:30
Seek_Therapyok..hold on07:30
Seek_Therapywill this set up apache too07:30
Seek_TherapyI want the whole enchilada07:31
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kadazIam trying to play a dvd but says I dont have the right?07:32
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs07:32
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erichjSeek_Therapy: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html07:33
Seek_Therapyso would i start by installing apache first ..rigjt?07:34
Seek_Therapythen ruby on cocaine07:34
erichji think ruby does better with lightpd07:34
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Seek_Therapyoh is light another sever07:35
erichjfollow those instructions07:35
erichjmake sure you do a listen on port 80 in your host file if the server is just a dev server07:36
Seek_Therapylet me sneak a peak07:36
Seek_Therapywhy will i here a train coming07:37
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Seek_Therapylet me try and set this up07:38
Seek_Therapyhold on07:38
Seek_Therapyjust i check the port first07:38
kadazI have a dvd player problem07:38
kadazThe source can't be read.07:38
kadazMaybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading from DVD.)07:38
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kadaztheres no scatches or anything07:39
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Seek_Therapyyou know what i am trying to say07:39
erichjno do check first, its not open by default07:39
erichjit won't be open until later07:40
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erichjkadaz did you install the aud-dvd codecs?07:40
Seek_Therapyso should i open it07:40
kadazI dont know07:40
erichjSeek_Therapy: not right now, just follow those instructions07:40
Seek_TherapyCalm down there cougar..ok..ok07:41
erichjkadaz: have you ever been able to play dvds?07:41
erichjthen that is a no probably07:41
erichjjust a sec07:41
kadazI installed kubuntu on dvd07:42
erichjdifferent matter07:42
kadazand watched dvd movie in windows07:42
erichjtalking about encrypted dvds07:42
kadazbut not since linux07:42
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erichjkadaz: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/07:43
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ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs07:44
ardchoillekadaz: ^^07:44
ardchoilleerichj: Oh, sorry abot that. Didn't mean to step on you there :(07:48
kadazgot it.07:48
erichjardchoille: i sent him to the blog because it's better for beginners07:48
ardchoilleerichj: Right, I didn't read before posting07:48
kadazis it safe to install gedit on kde?07:48
erichjkate is much nicer though, in my opinion07:48
ardchoillekadaz: You can safely run most gnome apps in kde and vice versa. However, if you want a powerful tabbed editor, check out kate.. it's installed with kubuntu07:48
ardchoillekadaz: I think installing gedit is going to pull in a lot of gnome with it.07:48
erichjyeah, like all the gtk crap07:48
erichjgive kate a shot07:48
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erichjor even kwrite07:48
ardchoillekate is nice07:48
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Jucatowell, Kate isn't a "tabbed" editor per se... but...07:49
erichjyou could always use bluefish07:49
ardchoilleWell, true, but it may as well be.07:49
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Jucatoquite amusing is the fact that kate actually has tabs. they're just hidden and superceded by the Document list panel07:50
sparrI have a Gigabyte GA-M61PM-S2 motherboard with onboard audio.  Manual says Realtek ALC883 chip.  LSPCI says "nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio".  lsmod says I am using snd_hda_intel.  Audio in about half of my games has static.  Help?07:50
louis_hey guys07:50
erichjsparr: use alsa and see if it fixes it.07:50
ardchoillesparr: What is your question?07:51
louis_how do i open xorg.conf from the command line?07:51
Seek_Therapyerichj: its working...look at Meeee ! I can fly07:51
crdlblouis_, kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:51
ardchoillelouis_: sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:51
erichjSeek_Therapy: awesome07:51
sparrardchoille: what could cause it?  how can i fix it?  what troubleshooting steps should i try?07:51
ardchoillesparr: For sound? I don't know, I don't use sound.. not even sure if mine works.07:52
ardchoilleUs deaf folks don't bother with that stuff ;)07:52
sparrerichj: it seems to07:53
erichjsparr: system settings -> sound system -> hardware tab -> select device -> advanced linux sound system or try open sound system07:53
erichji have the same sound controller07:53
erichjmine works fine with alsa07:53
louis_crdlb, i can't find the extensions part of my xorg.conf file ...07:53
crdlblouis_, there isn't one by default07:54
crdlbjust add it to the end07:54
louis_oh i have to add those lines?07:54
louis_oaky without the # right?07:54
erichjsparr: you can also override the sampling and quality settings07:54
crdlbif you put a # in front, they would be ignored07:54
sparrerichj: lets assume it works fine with alsa.  how can i fix the problem with oss?07:54
erichjpush it up to full duplex07:54
erichjsparr: look for a newer driver07:55
sparr2.6.20-16 is out07:55
sparrim using 2.6.20-1507:55
sparrmaybe there was a patch to the driver07:55
sparrsolutions that dont require a reboot are preferable right now07:56
GSF1200Sanyone here know anything about PCLOS? Ive been trying to find out for days if one can use aptitude instead of apt-get, and the irc channel simply wont answer the question...07:56
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erichjyou shouldn't have to update the kernel, i am using 16, is there a reason you don't want to use alsa?07:57
ardchoilleGSF1200S: aptitude and apt-get are front ends for APT (Advanced PAckage Tool), I'm pretty sure you can use aptitude if apt-get works07:57
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Seek_Therapyok...I have gotten this far and i don't want to mess it all up. I just finished the " install lighttpd package run the following command"07:58
GSF1200Sardchoille- thank you.. I thought the same thing, I just didnt know if I was missing something07:58
Seek_Therapynow what07:58
sparrerichj: lots of games dont support alsa07:58
Seek_Therapydo i install mysql next ?07:59
erichjsparr: well as far as oss goes, i won't be much help. i use alsa and i am able to play black and white 2 with it07:59
GSF1200Ssparr.. is that why games on linux always have a scratchy static sound when I play them?07:59
erichjand battle for middle earth08:00
ardchoilleGSF1200S: PCLOS? You mean PC Linux OS? I think that's rpm based. Does it use apt4rpm ?08:00
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Seek_Therapyor should i configure08:00
sparrGSF1200S: all games?  for me its just some.  lots of games use OSS, and lots use ALSA.08:00
GSF1200Sardchoille: yes08:00
GSF1200Sthat make aptitude any different?08:00
erichjSeek_Therapy: configure08:00
erichjyou can install mysql later if you want08:00
sparrerichj: ok.  Lincity-ng is my OSS example, easy for people to get and it runs in a window.  its what ive been testing with08:00
ardchoilleGSF1200S: No, if apt-get works, aptitude should work too08:01
GSF1200SI know PCLOS doesnt come with aptitude, so it must be in PCLOS repos08:01
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GSF1200Swell.. nighttime for me guys.. later08:02
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Seek_Therapyit tells me08:03
Seek_TherapyRun /etc/init.d/lighttpd force-reload to enable changes08:03
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erichjso open a terminal and type /etc/init.d/lighttpd force-reload08:04
Seek_Therapybut i already typed in the next command and got an error08:05
Seek_Therapyfastcgi-backend /usr/bin/php-cgi failed to start:08:05
erichjso open a terminal and type /etc/init.d/lighttpd force-reload and then whatever it tells you to type next08:06
Seek_Therapy * Stopping web server lighttpd                                                 rm: cannot remove `/var/run/lighttpd.pid': Permission denied08:08
erichjsudo /etc/init.d/lighttpd force-reload08:08
Seek_TherapyIts all messed up08:08
erichjsudo /etc/init.d/lighttpd force-reload08:08
Seek_Therapy the fastcgi-backend /usr/bin/php-cgi failed to start:08:10
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lighttpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:14
ardchoille!info lighttpd08:14
ubotulighttpd: A fast webserver with minimal memory footprint. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.13-9ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 283 kB, installed size 832 kB08:14
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ardchoilleSeek_Therapy: Have you seen this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lighttpd+PHP?highlight=%28lighttpd%2908:15
ardchoilleHas some info08:15
erichjardchoille: see if you can find one on lighttpd and ruby08:16
erichj!info ruby08:17
uboturuby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (feisty), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB08:17
ardchoilleerichj: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22lighttpd%22%2Bruby&btnG=Google+Search08:17
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Ahmuckwhat is the "web user" in kubuntu.  it's not apache it appears08:20
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erichjhow do you purge a package with apt-get?08:22
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crdlberichj, sudo apt-get --purge remove package08:22
kadazis kubuntu known as feisty  in repositories listings08:23
crdlbkadaz, yes the latest version of kubuntu is feisty (7.04)08:25
kadaz deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free08:25
kadazso I replace edge with feisty ?08:25
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org08:25
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crdlbI would check the website and get the deb lines from there08:26
kadazthats what it said08:26
crdlbwell no they've changed to medibuntu.org08:26
ardchoillekadaz: Are you upgrading?08:27
kadazIam putting in dvd codecs08:27
ardchoillekadaz: Are you on Feisty right now?08:27
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ardchoillekadaz: Please don't use Edgy repos, it's not a good idea to mix repos like that.08:28
ardchoillekadaz: Which package are you searching for?08:28
kadazIf you are running Feisty or some other release, other than edgy, replace the word edgy in both lines above with the name of the release you are using.08:28
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kadazlibdvdcss2 w32codecs08:28
ardchoillekadaz: That's very bad advice.08:28
ardchoille!libdvdcss2 | kadaz08:29
ubotukadaz: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs08:29
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ardchoillekadaz: Info about feisty repos here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages08:30
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kadazardchoille it keeps saying I need to use the SPManager08:34
kadazdo I uninstall adept and install SPM08:34
ardchoillekadaz: Which command returns that message?08:35
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kadazdvd playback, it says I need to use synaptic PM08:35
ardchoillekadaz: synaptic is just a gui front-end for APT, just like adept, and apt-get is a cli front-end, those are just gui's. you can use any package manager to install the needed packages.08:37
kadazTo activate DVD decryption, type the following line into a terminal prompt:08:37
kadazsudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh08:37
kadazok is the line the same??08:37
ardchoillekadaz: Yes, that is a script that installs libdvdcss2, you can go that way and it'll install for you.08:37
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ardchoilleActually, that may be quicker for you.08:37
kadazI tried that08:37
nbcbif i burn a data dvd in k3b, will i be able to use the dvd in windows?08:37
kadazsudo: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh: command not found08:38
erichjas long as you don't disable joliet extensions08:38
ardchoillekadaz: yes, you didn't give sudo a command. Try this:  cd /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples && sudo ./install-css.sh08:38
erichjsudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh08:38
ardchoilleor that08:38
kadaz-su: cd: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples: No such file or directory08:39
kadazshpetim: Can't open /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh08:39
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ardchoillekadaz: You need to install libdvdread3 first. sudo apt-get install libdvdread308:40
kadaz1. it said to install libdvdread3, which it says its ready installed.08:40
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ardchoillethen you can run that script08:40
kadazlibdvdread3 is already the newest version.08:40
kadazlibdvdread3 set to manual installed.08:40
ardchoillekadaz: Did you use automatix ?08:40
kadazfor what?08:41
ardchoilleFor anything08:41
kadaznot that I remember.08:41
ardchoilleGood, stay away from it :)08:41
ardchoillekadaz: sudo apt-get install libdvdread308:41
ardchoillekadaz: step two of that page says sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh08:42
ardchoilleDid you read step one?08:42
kadaz libdvdread3 is already the newest version.08:42
kadazlibdvdread3 set to manual installed.08:42
ardchoilleok, then sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh08:43
kadazit also says there is a butch of packages that are no longer required and Ishould use apt0-get automrmove08:43
kadazapt-get autoremove08:43
ardchoilleSave that for later.08:43
ardchoilleLEt's worry about getting your dvd's playing right now08:44
kadazshpetim: Can't open /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh08:44
ardchoilleAnd, btw, I use xine and mplayer to play dvd's because they are both much much better than totem.08:44
ardchoilleThat too08:44
ardchoilleBetter than totem08:44
kadazI have ogle, mplayer and kaffiene08:45
ardchoilleGood choices08:45
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erichji use vlc and kaffiene08:45
ardchoillekadaz: ls /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples08:45
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kadazI also  installed a camorama web viewer, would that have anything to do with it08:45
ardchoilleNever heard of it08:46
erichjno, nothing is probably causing a conflict08:46
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ubuntu_anybody know how to boot in recovery mode?08:47
ubuntu_either with kubuntu or with knoppix... doesnt matter08:47
michael__i cant get my windows smb shares to work correctly08:47
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erichjunless you used automatix, then we got problems08:47
michael__can anyone help?08:47
ardchoilleI was suspicious he did use automatix08:47
erichj!info samba | michael__08:47
ubotumichael__: samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 3262 kB, installed size 7992 kB08:47
kadazI would remember using it.08:47
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT08:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:48
michael__i did that erichj08:48
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe08:48
michael__i added \\Comp-Mike\J\08:48
michael__it doesnt show up08:48
michael__is there like an autodetect program?08:48
kadazI tried an automatic install for the webcam08:48
michael__that doesnt show anything08:49
erichjdid you make sure you got the workgroup right?08:49
michael__i know its MSHOME08:50
michael__where do i set that?08:50
erichjmake sure your windows computer is using the same workgroup08:50
michael__it is MSHOME i know that08:50
michael__konq, says time out out on it08:51
kadazOh I used easycam2 which as an automatic finder.08:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easycam2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:52
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ardchoilleLinspire is getting deals with M$ now?08:53
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ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.08:53
nbcbif i burn a data dvd in k3b, will i be able to use the dvd in windows? <-- that means if generate joliet extensions i can use them in windows?08:53
kadaznow what?08:54
ardchoilleIsn't Linspire where Ubuntu will get the CNR stuff?08:54
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austrojedigooooooooooood morning #kubuntu08:58
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michael__okay so basically09:00
ardchoillekadaz: Where are you, what have you done thus far?09:00
michael__smb://192.168.100/ shows my shares09:01
michael__but when i put that in the fstab and go to the place i told it to mount it doesnt work09:01
kadazthat did it09:01
ardchoillekadaz: It's installed now?09:01
kadazyup dvd works09:01
ardchoilleGreat :)09:01
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kadazthank you for your help ardchoille and erichj09:01
kadaznow the web camera :D09:01
erichjgood luck09:02
ardchoillekadaz: You're welcome :)09:02
michael__any idea why erichj09:02
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ardchoillekadaz: I can't help with webcams, I don't know anything about them, sorry09:02
erichjno idea, i use NAS devices because i hate samba09:02
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erichji also refuse to run windows on any box i own, so that also helps with the not using samba part of my life09:05
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ardchoilleI haven't touched Windows since 2001.. and it'll stay that way :)09:06
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ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:08
michael__how do i unmount the smb from /media/shares09:10
michael__umount /media/shares09:10
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jussi01michael__: that should work, but i would think you may need a sudo on the frony09:14
michael__thanks got it working09:15
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dcossondoes anyone in here, by chance, have or know where i can get a deb for the Kirocker kicker applet?09:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kirocker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:21
ardchoille!info kirocker09:21
ubotuPackage kirocker does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:21
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kadazI was serious guys, thank you. I'll work out the webcam at a later date.09:29
kadazdoes kopete have a build in spellcheck like gaim09:29
ardchoillekadaz: You might search the wiki for webcam info09:29
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kadazabc yes I see that it does.09:29
emonkey-pyes spell check works in kopete09:29
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Jucatokadaz: yes. right-click on the text input area09:29
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HymnToLifespell check is the most annoying thing ever...09:30
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HymnToLifeand it's sometimes tricky to disable :/09:30
Jucatodepends on who you ask...09:30
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nullkuhlguys is it bad to have kde applications running on gnome ?09:31
ardchoillenullkuhl: Not at all09:32
nullkuhlok also some kde application dont work on gnome such as super karamaba any solution to this ?09:33
dwidmannnullkuhl: of course, but you won't like the solution I'm about to recommend ;)09:33
nullkuhlwhich is ?09:33
nullkuhldwidmann:  ?09:34
nullkuhlinstall all kde libraris ?09:34
dwidmannThe obvious, easy way of fixing the problem.09:34
dwidmannrun kde :)09:34
ardchoilleSwitch to kde?09:34
nullkuhllol i haaaaateeeee KDE i prefer switchin to windows than switchin to kde lol.. though kde applications are da best09:35
dwidmannodd, what is it about KDE that you dislike so much?09:35
nullkuhlokay,, first : gui,, i prefer the simple gnome one alot that windows like gui in kde09:35
nullkuhlsecond kde uses a way much more memory than gnome09:36
ubotuA quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html09:36
nullkuhlthird sometimes kde goes real heavy while gnome never does that09:36
Jucatothird is related to second. see the link above09:36
nullkuhlfourth :09:36
nullkuhlin switching workspaces09:36
nullkuhlin gnome each work space has its own taskbar09:36
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nullkuhlbut in kde all applications in all workspaces exist in 1 taskbar09:37
nullkuhlwhich is bad09:37
Jucatoduh. right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Taskbar09:37
dwidmannnullkuhl: you can change number 4 to suit09:37
nullkuhllol okay thats 1 out of 4 reasons09:37
nullkuhlwat abt the memory stuff ?09:37
nullkuhland also the gui09:37
Jucatosee the link09:37
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nullkuhlah i forgot something09:38
nullkuhlfifth: gnome file manager is a way better than konqurer09:38
Jucatothe gui? what about it? what can't you customize in the gui to make it "more simple"09:38
nullkuhlif u have a solution to this ill switch to kde right now09:38
dwidmannAs per memory usage, kubuntu doesn't as well as a stripped down, kde-core, according to some benchmark-like numbers I've seen. Could be wort checking if you have an underpowered machineh09:39
nullkuhli just don like konqurer09:39
Jucatoyeah, I like to have 5 windows per folder open than 5 tabs per window... (or maybe 5 splits)09:39
ardchoillenullkuhl: This is a kde support channel, not a kde bashing channel. please take ti to another channel.09:39
nullkuhljust 1 more question,, can i replace the konqurer in kde ?09:39
KevinAlaskaHello everyone... I have a question about icons that seem to have gone missing in my menu (only some and seems like a only a few random icons) I can still execute them from CLI (at least the one application I tried).  Is this a known problem and is there an easy fix for it? :S09:40
nullkuhlwith anyother file managment09:40
dwidmannnullkuhl: anyhow, I always hated nautilus, and I adore konqueror, so ... to each his own09:40
dwidmannnullkuhl: try dolphin09:40
Jucatoa perfect way of asking for help/advice/idea is to say you hate something first then challenge to disprove you09:40
JucatoKevinAlaska: which menu? which icons?09:40
nullkuhllol Jucato exactly :D09:40
JucatoI was being sarcastic btw.09:40
KevinAlaskakopete is the one I noticed.. heh.  but I think there are others I just don't know which.09:41
Jucatoand ardchoille is right09:41
nullkuhlyea yea yea,. fine..09:41
JucatoKevinAlaska: icons from which menu. K Menu?09:41
KevinAlaskadoh.. sarcasm in typing is hard to do... heh09:41
KevinAlaskasettings I think .. not sure if there are more09:42
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JucatoKevinAlaska: did you change icon themes maybe?09:42
KevinAlaskaand Howdy Jucato! :)09:42
dwidmann<sarcasm>apparently Jucato forget to tag it</sarcasm>09:42
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Jucatodwidmann: I lost my autoreplace for [/sarcasm]  :)09:42
KevinAlaskanot in a while I think...09:42
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nullkuhlguys wat language is used to make the kde - gnome applications,, ubuntu applications generally is it python or wat ?09:43
Jucatohm... can't seem to think of a situation that would cause this (not that I completely understand what's wrong)09:43
KevinAlaskais there an /auto_scratch_self or simular command? ;)09:43
dwidmannnullkuhl: kde = c++, gnome = c09:43
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JucatoKDE uses Qt/C++. GNOME uses GTK+/C09:43
dwidmannof course, there are exceptions to that09:43
Jucatothere are apps in Ubuntu that use Python09:43
KevinAlaskaJucato! Pft!! Okay I will just have to think that you are NOT perfrect after all... I hope you can live with that image in your sleep tonight! :P09:44
nullkuhl[10:43]  <Frogzoo> nullkuhl: gnome is python09:44
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nullkuhl:S python or c09:45
JucatoKevinAlaska: sure. that's hours away :)09:45
Sculldergnome is evil :o|09:45
dwidmannnullkuhl: think there are some gnome apps written in mono09:45
JucatoGNOME uses GTK+, which is a C GUI toolkit. there are GNOME apps that are written in other languages09:45
nullkuhlbut kde is all c++ i guess now09:46
Jucatobut they use GTK+ bindings09:46
nullkuhlright ?09:46
Jucatomostly. but, like GNOME, there are apps written in other languages09:46
dwidmannnullkuhl: in the main kde svn repository, I think there is only one app that isn't c++09:46
dwidmannyup, that'd be the one09:47
Jucatothere are bindings for Python, Ruby, Mono (I think), Java, and C09:47
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Voyage_IF some day ubuntu stoped the support for repositories and apps. how can i use synaptic then ?09:47
JucatoVoyage_: IF that day happens, Ubuntu will stop existing09:48
dwidmannVoyage_: I don't see that happening anytime in the near future09:48
Jucatoyou can't have a distro  without repositories, online or offline. unless of course it's LFS :)09:48
Voyage_Jucato dwidmann well if it does happens and i persist using ubuntu. what about synaptic use the ?09:49
Jucato1) you will have to use other 3rd-party repos or 2) you will have to use a different distro09:49
JucatoSynaptic is not bound to a single distro or repo09:49
dwidmannThe odds of Ubuntu disappearing are relatively low ... popularity-wise Ubuntu is like a people-oriented (as opposed to commercial oriented) Red Hat09:50
Jucato(in fact, PCLinuxOS uses it)09:50
Jucatothe odds of Ubuntu not supporting their own official repositories are even lower, close to none09:50
Voyage_Jucato so i cant asure that other party repos will work fine with ubuntu09:50
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Jucatodepends. if those repos were made to work for Ubuntu09:50
dwidmannIf Ubuntu disappeared off the face of the earth, I guess that would mean time to go back to Debian eh?09:51
Voyage_dwidmann ok09:51
JucatoVoyage_: the point is, you don't  have to worry about Synaptic. you can use it with any repository09:51
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Jucatothe problem would be if that repository works for the distro09:51
Voyage_what repos can work for ubuntu btw09:51
Jucatoalso, Ubuntu can't exist without the repositories. so if ever Ubuntu stopped supporting those, then it means Ubuntu stops working. Synaptic would be the least of your worries then09:52
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agn0sticif I have a command installed in /usr/local/bin and "which command" outputs /usr/local/bin/command", but "command" makes bash spit: "/usr/bin/command no such f or d", anyone have any clue what's up? /usr/local/bin is in my path09:52
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JucatoVoyage_: besides the official Ubuntu repositories? you'll have to look for them yourself. They usually say if the packages/repos work for Ubuntu09:53
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ardchoilleagn0stic: echo $PATH09:54
Voyage_Jucato why doesnt all repos work for all distros? whats the differnce. they are all linux09:54
agn0sticardchoille:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games first thing i checked09:54
dwidmannVoyage_: different package format, built with dependencies on different versions of core programs (like the c libraries)09:55
Voyage_dwidmann no universal apps or libs?09:56
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ardchoilleVoyage_: Consider this: package! contains app!, which looks for deps in /path/A. But, the same app packaged for a different distro may look for its deps in /path/B.. different packaging/deps/optimisations.09:56
Alarmgoodmorning,  i had a problem mounting my external usb hd . when i plug it in and turn it on , and try to enter in the partition i get: could not enter folder /media/win5 . i could only mount it with pmount /dev/sda1 . i did also add my user (alarm) to the plugdev group , and rebooted as well.09:57
Alarmin the fstab there was nothing listed about the /dev/sda1 device .09:57
KevinAlaskawell I am off like a wild herd of turtles yet again.. cheers everyone09:57
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Alarmwhen i mounted it with pmount /dev/sda1 , worked pretty well,. i could enter the partition,. but once i turned it of (even if i removed it safely) , and then turn it on again, i get again the same message . it is an ntfs drive09:57
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Alarm after reinstalling the OS . and just restoring my .kde directory, withought trying to do anything with my hd. i thought of trying to mount my external drive again. and for some strange reason i got again the same error "could not enter folder /media/win5" although i didnt enter that , neither did i create a win5 dir. which means that some information is kept in the .kde dir , but dont know where09:57
dwidmannVoyage_: the problem isn't differnet libs, just different versions of them, which tend to be incompatible09:58
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Voyage_dwidmann ic.10:00
Voyage_why dont they use universal and latest ones. like windows.10:00
dwidmannVoyage_: different target audiences ... the latest "greatest" is more or less the opposite of the stable thing you'd expect for a server10:01
Jucatobecause this isn't windows. plain and simple10:01
Voyage_dwidmann ok. thanks. :)10:02
Alarmok i found the file that contains that info10:02
Alarmnow i did delete the mediamanagerrc file and when i turn on my drive and try to enter it, i get the error: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 100010:02
Alarmi suppose i have to add my user in the plugdev group ?10:02
Jucato(it should be by default already)10:03
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AlarmJucato,  that goes for me ?10:04
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Alarmwell u are right The user `alarm' is already a member of `plugdev'.10:04
Alarmso that has not to do with the hal-strage... error10:05
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Alarmfrom what i see , kde didnt create the mediamanagerrc file again10:06
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Alarmthats how the mediamanagerrc file looked like: http://mishu.eu.org/paste/view.php?id=349810:07
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totorodid somone can help me for a kde problem ?10:10
JUVsorry, I can't;p10:10
JUVI have some problems, too10:10
Jucato!someone | totoro10:10
ubotutotoro: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?10:10
totoroJucato: thanks ;)10:11
Alarmcould i also please ask for asking something for the problem i got to ask about  ?10:11
totorooki I'm look for the kde file how are all de X configuration, no the xorg.conf one10:11
totoroI'm sur that kde have is hown10:12
Alarmdoes anyone understand or my english is so bad ?10:12
totorobut I don't know where10:12
JucatoX is not really part of KDE. KDE sits on top of X. KDE doesn't have it's own xorg.conf. the one and only xorg.conf is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:12
AlarmJucato,  i suppose he means all the apperance settings configuration, fonts and stuff like that10:13
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totoroJucato:  oky but why they have so difference betwenn the Xorg.conf and what display KDE ?10:13
JucatoI couldn't really understand him...10:13
totoroAlarm: thanks it was that ;)10:14
totoroJucato: sorry ...10:14
Jucatowhat language by the way? maybe there's a kubuntu channel for it10:14
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totorosorry for my english writing ...10:18
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gastly!ubotu kubuntu10:24
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE10:24
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Alarmgood :)10:28
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MurDoGGeverything all right10:38
MurDoGGi've a problem with my nvidia driver10:39
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MurDoGGsince the update to kernel version 2.6.20-16 i had problems with my wlan adapter, i solved this problem, the script /sbin/ipw3945d-2.6.20-16-generic is restricted, so i have to fix this and my intel wlan adapter works well, but this happen when KDE starts10:43
MurDoGGError: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-9755, but10:43
MurDoGGthis X module has the version 1.0-9639.  Please make sure that the kernel10:43
MurDoGGif i made modprobe -r nvidia and start the kde with the kdm script everything works well10:43
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MurDoGGhave someone a idea how fix this fu***** (sorry ;) problem10:44
[nk] guten morgen :)10:45
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MurDoGGeveryone sleeping ^^10:57
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Tm_TMurDoGG: how did you install nvidia driver?11:02
ardchoilleI'm betting it wasn't via the pm11:02
Tm_Tit wasn't11:03
Tm_TMurDoGG: exactly11:03
ardchoilleMurDoGG: That's why you're having this problem.11:03
MurDoGGokay but how can i fix it and why the problem appears11:03
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Tm_TMurDoGG: well, because you did install manually, every upgrade in repositories write over your installation11:04
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:04
Tm_TMurDoGG: so, kernel module got upgraded, but because you didn't install nvidia X drivers from package, it didn't11:04
Tm_TMurDoGG: so, you have now version mismatch11:04
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Alarmow can i fix the "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 " error when trying to mount me external ntfs hd drive under kde ?11:05
Alarmi found that some settings are stored in the .kde/share/config/mediamanagerrc file , but cant figure out what should be changed there11:05
Alarmwhen changing automount=true , to automount=false i get the error "could not enter /media/win5 (the direcotry that is listed in the same file)11:05
MurDoGGand what i have to do now11:06
Tm_TMurDoGG: humm, in that nvidia installer, there should be some uninstall foofoo11:08
Tm_TMurDoGG: then install nvidia packages from repositories11:08
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MurDoGGis there no posibility to use the nvidia driver installing manually11:09
ardchoilleMurDoGG: You can use it until, as you've seen, you update your kernel, then it no longer works. This is the reason we have a package meneger.. to keep packages in sync.11:09
Tm_Tardchoille: well said (:11:09
ardchoilleMurDoGG: Your best bet now is to uninstall the driver you manually install, then use the package manager to install it correctly, as Tm_T suggested.11:10
MurDoGGokay i try how i deinstall the driver11:10
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Tm_TMurDoGG: any particular reason to have manually installed?11:11
ardchoilleyou need to read the accompanying documentation to find out how to uninstall it11:11
waltercoolhow can i block installation of packages with gnome dependences?11:11
Tm_Twaltercool: hum, why should you, just don't install them11:12
waltercoolTm_T: But idk all packages dependences... and sometimes... when im installing a package... install it11:12
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waltercooli hate gnome11:12
Tm_Twaltercool: then just don't install those packages11:13
waltercoolBut... why kubuntu comes with some gnome libs installed?11:13
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Tm_Twaltercool: hum?11:13
ardchoillewaltercool: Which libs?11:14
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waltercooli cant remember... but i remove it... and this libs remove me kde xOO11:14
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Tm_Twaltercool: that doesn't make much sense11:14
waltercoolyeah... i know... but test u in adept11:15
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MurDoGGi look at www.nvidia.com for documentation but there is only a installing documentation11:15
Tm_Ttrust me, kde won't go away taking gnome libs11:15
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waltercoolis not dependent??11:15
waltercoolbut... for example... i know about knetworkmanager depends of networkmanager11:16
Tm_Twaltercool: gnome libs are definately NOT dependency of KDE11:16
Jucatowaltercool: it would be better if you could use pastebin to show the errors you receive while trying to install something (use apt-get instead of adept)11:16
waltercooland networkmanager depends of gnome libs11:16
ardchoilleno, they are two seperate desktops11:16
Tm_Twaltercool: knetworkmanager is not KDE11:16
waltercoolis gnome?11:16
Jucatoactually, knetworkmanager is *just* a KDE frontend to networkmanager11:16
ardchoillewaltercool: I uninstalled networkmanager and kde is still running fine11:16
Tm_TJucato: yup, a single piece of app (:11:17
waltercoolbut... how u conect it to internet?11:17
Jucatomanually? some other network app?11:17
ardchoilleDon't know, been connected 24/711:17
ardchoillekubuntu does it for me.11:17
Jucatobtw? who said networkmanager depends on gnome libs?11:18
Jucatoit isn't11:18
ardchoilleI was answering Jucato's question11:18
waltercoolxD... Jucato, are u sure of that?11:19
waltercoolJucato: rarely... in sabayon... it depends of gnome libs...11:20
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Tm_Twhat is sabayon?11:21
JucatoItalian for "can't install Gentoo"11:21
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Jucato(same as Ubuntu is African for "can't install Debian")11:21
waltercoolIs a distro11:21
Tm_Twaltercool: now you're lying11:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xddd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:22
Jucatoperhaps sabayon installs the GNOME frontend of networkmanager automatically as well11:22
Tm_Twaltercool: there's no other distros than Ubuntu11:22
JucatoTm_T: Sabayon Linux...11:22
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eagles0513875sabayon suxs balls11:22
waltercoolxDDD... is not bad... but is too slow11:22
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:22
eagles0513875i tried it on this machine im on but the x is fucked up i couldnt get to the desktop11:22
eagles0513875freebsd looks like a nice distro11:23
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Jucatowaltercool: the point is, we're in Kubuntu. and as far as I can see, knetworkmanager doesn't depend on any GNOME lib11:23
eagles0513875honestly though11:23
eagles0513875im in love with kubuntu11:23
waltercoolJucato: Yeah... im learning now :)11:23
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waltercoolJucato: I like distros 100% KDE :)11:24
eagles0513875whose wedding jucato lol11:24
eagles0513875i hate gnome lol11:24
Jucatoeagles0513875: yours and Kubuntu's11:24
eagles0513875meaning i love it ovr any other distro11:24
waltercoolIn adept... the kubuntu icon says KDE app?11:24
Jucatojokes aren't meant to be rationalized, you know?11:24
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JucatoKubuntu icon means = officially supported by Canonical/Ubuntu (a.k.a. main and restricted)11:25
eagles0513875anyone know much bout BOINC and 64bit related issues11:25
waltercoolmmm... ic... and app-install-data is a kde or gnome app? because in description says some about GNOME App Installer, but uninstalling it, Adept uninstall me 6 kde apps :S11:26
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eagles0513875i agree admiral11:27
Jucatowaltercool: both Kubuntu and Ubuntu need it for, guess what, application installation data11:27
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: hush... too many rivals :)11:27
Admiral_Chicagomight be Debian related.11:27
Admiral_Chicagohehe, I'm off to bed anyways.11:28
Admiral_Chicago@now Chicago11:28
ubotuCurrent time in America/Chicago: June 14 2007, 04:28:16 - Next meeting: Ubuntu Development Team in 6 hours 31 minutes11:28
waltercoolMmm... ic, so i dont wanna touch... right?11:28
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: soon you'll be living my timezone11:28
Jucatowaltercool: right11:28
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: exactly...i'll be over for dinner next friday btw.11:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:29
waltercoolJucato: :) U know a lot of kubuntu... i see11:29
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: lol :)11:29
Admiral_Chicagookay i'm off for real not11:30
Jucatofor real not... talk about oxymorons :)11:30
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Jucatowaltercool: no. not enough... not yet.... :/11:30
Shadowrunnerso guy i uninstall the nvidia driver and install the glx driver from the packages now i have this problem11:30
waltercoolJucato: Lol... but sufficient for help a lot of people xD11:31
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Shadowrunner(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)11:31
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Shadowrunnersorry no that is the wrong one ^^11:32
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magi_hi, everyone. Does anyone know how to play APE file in the KDE environment? Thanks!11:39
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eagles0513875convert them to flac magi11:40
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dapp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:46
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sanelsonhello... kubntu has set my keyboard incorrectly; if I run loadkeys uk, though, i get an error:11:48
sanelsonCouldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console11:48
sanelsoni'm not using ay of the kde stuff, so I can't browse to a gui-fix-your-keyboard-setting thing11:48
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sanelsonunless someone knows what the program is called, and i can run it from a shell11:49
kadazdoes anyone play torcs?11:51
kadazhow come I can only see partial car, inside view11:52
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ubotuTo find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts11:52
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kadazno thank you for asking me a question, so I can offer my help.11:54
kadazwait, I meant yes, thank you11:54
ardchoillesanelson: Do you have kcontrol installed?11:55
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sanelsonsed -e '/kbLayout/s/us/gb/' < /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak > /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:59
sanelsondid the trick11:59
sanelsonalthough now my right alt key is different, so my xmodmaprc needs to be changed11:59
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kadazyou worked the advice, great !@12:03
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alexander_anybody here?12:16
alexander_does anyone know whether mac is based on unix or not???12:16
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pagalexander_, afaik it's based on BSD (which I think is based on unix)12:17
Jucatoalexander_: the kernel is based on *BSD (don't know which). this might not be the best place to ask about this12:17
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alexander_^^... do you know a chatroom or something where i could ask people about these things?12:19
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jussi01alexander_: its bsd based IIRC12:21
ardchoilleIn 1999, Apple introduced a new operating system, Mac OS X Server 1.0 (codenamed Rhapsody), with a new GUI and powerful Unix underpinnings. Its NeXT-like GUI left many Mac users disappointed, and wondering what the next generation of the Mac OS GUI would look like. Mac OS X was based on OPENSTEP, the operating system developed by Steve Jobs post-Apple company, NeXT.12:22
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alexander_ok... thank you...12:23
jussi01alexander_:  /join ##mac maybe12:23
ardchoilleFrom 2001, the classic Mac OS was phased out in favor of the new BSD Unix-based Mac OS X.12:23
magi_well, I've tried a lot, but how to convert ape to flac?12:24
alexander_so we can say the "mother-OS" for Linux distros and Macintosh --> is unix12:24
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pawitpLinux does not contain unix codes though12:25
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AgarFuRiddell are you there?12:25
ardchoille!soundkonverter | magi_12:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about soundkonverter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:25
AgarFuI'm from La Laguna12:25
ardchoille!info soundkonverter12:25
RiddellAgarFu: mm hmm12:25
ubotusoundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 365 kB, installed size 1456 kB12:26
AgarFuI'm not able to open a private chat12:26
ardchoillemagi_: Try soundkonverter12:26
AgarFuthere is no problem with your wishes12:26
AgarFuI'll cover the expenses of your travel12:26
magi_thanks a lot12:26
magi_i will have a try12:26
AgarFuand accomodation here while the confference12:26
AgarFuridell maybe jabber?12:27
alexander_you know... i ask these questions because i want to hold a presentation about operating systems in general so i could need some help ^^...12:27
AgarFumy jabberID is agarfu@jabber.org12:27
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pawitpalexander_: read unix, linux, macintosh, windows history on wikipedia12:29
ardchoillealexander_: Yeah, lots of good ifo there.12:29
alexander_ok.. so there are no other operating systems for computers...12:29
magi_ardchoille: i think it does not work.12:29
pawitpalexander_: DOS, and other if you go beyond x8612:30
ardchoillemagi_: I have soundkonverter installed and I am seeing that it can convert ape to flac12:30
JucatoAgarFu: just register your nick and you can send private messages in freenode12:31
magi_ardchoille: oh, but I used "add files" and still cannot find ape can be opened.12:31
AgarFulet's try ...12:31
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ardchoillemagi_: You have to install an encoder/decoder for each file type you want to convert.12:32
magi_ardchoille: how can I do that? by aptitude?12:33
ardchoillemagi_: Open the preferences dialog and look in the plugins section12:34
magi_ardchoille: yes i've seen that, the "mac" program is missing, but how can I install that?12:34
magi_ardchoille: i did not found it in aptitude.12:35
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eagles0513875j/w what do i do if there is a package in a repository which id out of date12:35
ardchoillemagi_: Hmm.. I don't know, you'll have to search the repos for ape or mac plugins. It shows the mp3(lame) plugin and I know that plugin can be installed from the repos.12:36
ardchoillemagi_: Click on a plugin in the preferences and click the "About" button, it tells you where to get the plugin: http://www.monkeysaudio.com .12:37
jussi01eagles0513875: file a bug on Launchpad12:37
magi_ardchoille: i'm sorry, but what is the repos?12:37
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:37
magi_well, well, let me see......12:38
eagles0513875its the boinc client that is out of date12:38
eagles0513875manager i mean12:38
jussi01eagles0513875: just check that there isnt a bug already, then file a new one!12:39
jussi01eagles0513875: https://bugs.launchpad.net/12:39
magi_ardchoille: well, I think I know that and I always put that correct, without realizing what it is ^_^12:40
magi_ardchoille: I tried to get plugins in "settings" dialog, but I cannot refresh the list...12:40
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ardchoillemagi_: Click on a plugin in the preferences and click the "About" button, it tells you where to get the plugin: http://www.monkeysaudio.com .12:41
eagles0513875im having a really tough time installing the latest version of boinc can anyone help me12:41
magi_ardchoille: yes, I went to that site, but found windows version of the program only...12:42
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ardchoillemagi_: You're right. I wonder why a Linux dev sends you to a site that only has Windows .exe's12:44
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magi_ardchoille: well, well, I don't know.12:49
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icecruncherhi, how can I play an m4h file?12:52
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icecrunchersorry, i mean the .m4a12:53
ardchoilleicecruncher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats12:53
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DexterFcompiling an app requieres X includes.01:05
DexterFin which package would I find those?01:05
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animimotusinstead of reboot, could I free my mem ?01:06
animimotusthe cache seems full, firefox is so glutton01:06
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DexterFanimimotus: what's the story?01:11
BluesKajwhat app are you compiling DexterF ?01:11
DexterFBluesKaj: mplayerthumbs, konq tooltip video previewer01:11
animimotusDexterF: my pc reactes slowly01:11
animimotusthe mem and cache seems full...01:11
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DexterFanimimotus: that's how linux works in case you didn't know: all the RAM not used by any programs is used for caching - a megabyte unused is a megabyte wasted01:11
DexterFso most likely your machine actually is just slow01:11
DexterFhow much RAM do you have?01:11
animimotusDexterF: 1 Go...01:11
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BluesKajDexterF, I suppose you already have build-essential for compiling and perhaps you may need some of these: libdvdcss2,xine-extracodecs and ffmpeg01:11
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DexterFhm. more than sufficient for standard tasks. ever been this slow or since recently?01:11
DexterFBluesKaj: yup.01:11
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BluesKajanimimotus, is it just slow using a browser , or just slow in general ?01:13
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animimotusBluesKaj: till I have open a lot tabs in FF :)01:14
animimotusI have closed a lot of them01:14
animimotusbut the system is not quick as usually01:15
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ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv401:16
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BluesKajanimimotus, maybe disabling IPv6 and reverting to IPv4 will speed up browsing01:16
oswaldosomeone know If avantfax is a hylafax client?01:17
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BluesKajoswaldo, check this out: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=535536&page=201:24
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animimotuskillall firefox-bin01:27
BluesKajthat's just a temporary solution01:28
BluesKajmight screw up the browser01:28
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thernymousi have this problem.. where the kde sound system stops responding after a while.. ie, artsd is still running, but sounds from programs using the sound system won't output.. no error messages are displayed.. nothing seemingly triggers it (using 7.04) (on a side note.. i did set the automatic interrupt of the sound system (in system settings) to 0 seconds.. might that be related?)01:30
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drknshello fellas01:34
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drknsi have 2 problems01:34
drknsone is that amarok stopped working no error messages nothing01:35
drknsand i cannot play original dvds01:35
drknskafein says i have not enough rights01:35
BluesKajdrkns, install libdvdcss2, ffmpeg and xine-extracodecs01:38
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:39
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wsjuniorwhats the diff among ksynaptics and qsynaptics?01:45
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wsjuniori have i problem here. the scroll function of the touchpad works only for some time. after some time it doesnt work and i need to restart X to have it working again01:46
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:47
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:47
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ubotuFor a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad02:00
main2with the latest two kerrnels available for feisty (dunno about any earlier..) im receiving > [   17.881222]  ACPI Exception (processor_core-0783): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor Device is not present [20070126] 02:02
main2[   17.881361]  ACPI Exception (processor_core-0783): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor Device is not present [20070126] 02:02
main2i have this with latest kernel from kernel.org as well02:02
main2where should i complain :P, launchpad?02:02
main2kernel mailinglists?02:02
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makuseruwhat terminal based program can i use to extract .zip's?02:10
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ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression02:11
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pagmakuseru, have you tried unzip file.zip  ?02:12
makuserui cant get unzip to accept wildcards02:13
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ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression02:14
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_RadioHeadi can`t configure nothing fomr kubuntu user,when i give a passwd i got error message password incorrect02:23
_RadioHeadwhere can i change this so i can use kdesu su ?02:24
_RadioHeadfor su already did02:24
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DexterFawesome. so I hear about this app ( http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=41180 ) can't find it in official repositories, hammer away an hour learning how to solve build dependencies and such and then after compiling scroll down the page and see there's a feisty deb :P02:33
oswaldosomeone know If for put avantfax on, there is that take file hylafax?02:33
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BluesKajoswaldo, check this out: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=535536&page=202:36
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BluesKajDexterF, it has happened to all of us ...but practice is always good too :)02:39
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DexterFindeed. building debs sure is more work than building a slackware tgz, but it pays off imo02:40
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soulrider__RadioHead: dont use the root account02:43
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kubuntuhendaus : hi02:51
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sivajihendaus : hi02:56
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BluesKajsivaji, he's not really here02:57
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sivajiBluesKaj ok02:57
BluesKajthere are hundreds of ppl joining the room , but never utter a word ... interesting02:59
BluesKajmostly lurkers02:59
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jussi01BluesKaj: people probably have this room on auto login03:00
jussi01like i do...03:00
BluesKajno doubt jussi01 , but why bother ?03:01
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BluesKajand me03:02
jussi01BluesKaj: its nice to be able to drop in when you have a sec and help some one, or just have it ready if you need it...03:02
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BluesKajand ppl adding underscores to their nicks...what's that about ?03:04
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JucatoBluesKaj: Konversation is automatically configured to setup 3 nicks per user. user, user_, user__03:06
Jucatowhen you get disconnected and your ghost remains, it automatically uses the available alternate nicks03:06
BluesKajheh, mine won't let me back in03:07
BluesKajit tells me I'm already there03:07
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Jucatowhat IRC client?03:08
Jucatomaybe you don't have alternate nicks setup?03:08
Jucatothat must be it, then...03:09
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_RadioHeadyo DexterF03:09
DexterF_RadioHead: hey :D what are _you_ doing here?03:09
_RadioHeadsoulrider_: i need to configure some stuff oon kde dude but i cant03:09
_RadioHeadDexterF: :)mi install kubuntu for a friend :)03:10
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_RadioHeadand want to configure xgl and some other things :)03:10
_RadioHeadDexterF: well usualy as i do in slackware i do from kcontrol :) but dont know how can i do on kubuntu03:11
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DexterFquestion rather was what do you wanna do with xgl?03:11
_RadioHeadDexterF: me nothing :) only my friend ask me to configure he like xgl and movement on xgl :)03:12
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DexterF"movement"...? doesnt make sense03:12
BluesKajJucato, searched thru konverstion config and i don't see any "alternate nick" options03:12
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_RadioHeadah DexterF u know effectr when u move konsole,konqueror over the desktop...03:13
JucatoBluesKaj: Press F803:13
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Jucatoor Settings -> Identities03:13
DexterF_RadioHead: beryl. like i said. install that and beryl-manager, enable composite in xorg.conf and add them options. google.03:13
ubuntuQue contrasea trae por defecto el usuario root de kubuntu?03:13
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ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:14
_RadioHeadDexterF: i will but only other thing is when i wanna do something like root i can`t with kdesu wrong passwd ...03:14
BluesKajok added alternate nicks with underscores03:14
_RadioHeadDexterF: i think i must change something on pam.d/*03:15
JucatoBluesKaj: lol! they don't need to have underscores :)03:15
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BluesKajthen they'd all be the same03:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about distro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:15
DexterF_RadioHead: I'd get you better if used some ,,,,,,,, now and then03:16
BluesKajI'm using the same nick, Jucato ...i never change03:16
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JucatoBluesKaj: what I mean that you can have different nicks like BluesKaj, not-blueskaj :)03:16
DexterF_RadioHead: ah, now. you can set a root passwd with sudo passwd iirc. but root can run X apps, just fire i tup from a konsole03:16
DexterFor sudo su - , then passwd..?03:17
BluesKajno, it's BluesKaj_ and _BluesKaj03:17
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DexterF_RadioHead: gtg, hf and use the help docs on the net, they're quite good03:27
_RadioHeadDexterF: i change root passwd BUT when i wat to run something as a root on kde loged in as normal user i cant , always i got wrong passwd , it is due to PAM03:27
_RadioHeadDexterF: see ya dude :)03:27
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_RadioHeadhow can i tell apt-get to download package from internet03:29
jussi01_RadioHead: where else would it download it from?03:30
_RadioHeadjussi01: i run apt-get install beryl and nothing it say i cant find pkg03:31
jussi01_RadioHead: I assume you have internet connection (your here)... are your sources correct? do you have universe and multiverse switched on?03:32
_RadioHeadjussi01: when i install kubuntu i did without internet ... now i setup network and yes i have internet but can`t find beryl do i need to add sources? or03:33
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_RadioHeadand what do i need to configure to use kdesu ?03:33
jussi01_RadioHead: go to adept, select manage repositories from the menu and make sure that they are all ticked...03:34
_RadioHeadjussi01: moment sshing on kubuntu03:34
weswh-I am trying to get Azureus running. I followed these steps first, to configure Java: http://www.tracyphillips.com/2007/05/03/how-to-install-java-on-ubuntu-fiesty-fawn/03:34
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weswh-but when i load Azureus, it automatically closes after it loads. How can I check any debug output in a terminal?03:35
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BluesKajweswh-, I hate to tell you this but ktorrent is much more stable and has just as many options and takes up a lot less resources than the java-based azureus , so whynot just switch ?03:41
[nk] _weswh-: I had the same problem with a fresh install of feisty03:41
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[nk] _weswh-: after fetching sun's java and all that, I just fetched the latest azureus 2.5 from http://azureus.sourceforge.net/03:43
weswh-BluesKaj: I love Ktorrent. Unfortunately 2 of the torrent sites I use claim that it reports bad data to the tracker.03:43
weswh-[nk] _: cool, thanks03:43
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[nk] _just extracted azureus to ~/azureus/ and run it from there03:43
weswh-you are using java 6?03:43
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BluesKajwhich sites weswh-?03:44
ivan__hola buenas tardes03:44
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ivan__speak spanish?03:44
BluesKaj!es | ivan__03:44
ubotuivan__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:44
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ivan__fabian__:  hablas espaol03:45
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BluesKajivan__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda03:45
ivan__need configure my root in my kubuntu03:46
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Daisuke_Idoweswh-: the king of music trackers allows it, you should tell the admins of the trackers that disallow it to remove their heads from their collective rear ends.03:48
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weswh-[nk] : I downloaded and extracted 2.5 - how do I run it? I tried clicking on the .jar, not it.03:50
[nk] oh03:50
weswh-ah, I see the shell script now03:51
[nk] /home/username/azureus/azureus03:51
weswh-heh. well it loaded at least. then had to kill the process.03:52
[nk] you can just edit the Azureus shortcut03:52
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[nk] did it freeze or something?03:52
weswh-yeah. the window came up that said "loading details", never made it to the other side03:52
[nk] neat!03:53
[nk] I had the package manager remove the version of azureus that comes with feisty03:53
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alexander_I regret to inform that None of our All in one printers does not support K-/u Buntu operating system. (email reply on a support mail)03:53
weswh-can you remind me of the package syntax for remove?03:54
alexander_sent by lexmark03:54
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cr1sscan someone help me install avant window navigator in my ubuntu ?03:54
Daisuke_Idoalexander_: that about sums it up03:54
[nk] weswh-: apt-get remove azureus03:54
Daisuke_Idolexmark = junk03:54
Daisuke_Idoand their printers are dirt cheap.  HP's a little more expensive, but supported03:55
alexander_i know03:56
Daisuke_Idoand if that's the actual text from a lexmark employee, i don't want to buy their product anyway.  if they don't even do QA on support replies, whay makes me think they do QA on their products?03:56
alexander_I regret to inform that None of our All in one printers does not support K-/u Buntu operating system.03:58
alexander_If you have any more questions or concerns, please contact me at your convenience and I will be happy to assist you. (If I am not available, another representative will reply to you as soon as possible.) To respond, please select "Reply" in your e-mail software, and be sure that the past e-mail is included in this reply.03:58
alexander_[AOL Users: In order to include the previous e-mail, you must highlight it with your mouse when you are replying.] 03:58
alexander_If you need to reply, please be sure to include in your message all information from prior e-mail messages & replies. If your e-mail client automatically deletes prior e-mail thread information, it will cause a delay while we look up your support history. If this is the case you may want to save the old e-mails as attachments and attach them to the current e-mail.03:58
alexander_that is the rest of the mail03:58
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:58
alexander_oh sry03:58
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weswh-[nk] : hey I got it working. thanks a bunch04:07
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[nk] weswh-: no prob!04:09
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wsjuniori just noticed that konqueror doesnt open some things that i dont know how to name so here is the screenshots of the same part of a webpage with firefox and konqueror:04:17
wsjuniorfirefox: http://aycu09.webshots.com/image/17968/2005611778074126193_rs.jpg04:17
wsjuniorkonqueror: http://aycu35.webshots.com/image/17434/2005637919203213032_rs.jpg04:17
wsjuniorwhat's going on?04:18
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Daisuke_Idokonqueror doesn't support something that firefox does04:20
Daisuke_Idouse FF for now04:20
wsjuniorit seems its called bbcode04:20
wsjunioris it supported by konqueror?04:20
Daisuke_Idoit's not the bbcode that's not supported, it's the editor04:21
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Jucatoit's the WYSIWYG editor. Konqueror rarely supports those well04:22
wsjuniorby editor u mean this format, align and other buttons, right?04:22
Daisuke_Idoall of that, yes04:22
Jucatoby editor he means the whole thing04:22
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JucatoWYSIWYG = What You See Is What You Get04:23
wsjuniorso there's no way to make it work with konqueror, right?04:23
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wsjuniordamn :'(04:23
wsjuniorfirst it doesnt support google services and now this..04:24
Jucatoyou can try changing the browser identification for that that particular site04:24
wsjuniori tried change it to firefox and ie04:24
wsjuniorbut didnt work :(04:24
Jucatohm.. konqueror supports gmail, a bit of google talk, docs (I think), calendar04:24
wsjuniori meant its not fully compatible04:24
Daisuke_Idowsjunior: konqueror is lacking on a few things, it just doesn't have the support for part of it, though i don't know the underlying workings so i couldn't tell you which part :D04:25
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wsjunioris there any qt port of firefox?04:25
Jucatokjs, for your ajax problems04:25
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wsjuniori heard zack rusin had some related project..04:25
wsjunioris that true?04:25
Jucatothere is none04:25
Jucatothat's completely different04:26
Jucatoand slightly more technical and controversial04:26
wsjuniorwhat is his project about?04:26
Jucatowebkit port to qt. and it really hasn't much to do with KDE (yet)04:26
Jucatothat's a project of Trolltech04:26
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dpsAnyone as a problem with xorg not loading at start?04:28
dpsI isntalled nvidia drivers04:28
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dpsEach time i start, i have to rmmod nvidia, and restart kdm04:29
dpsit will load the nvidia module again04:29
dpsi don't understant...04:29
Dr_willisit works the 2nd time?04:30
wsjuniorthis looks nice: http://konquefox.free.fr/04:30
sparrwdps: ive seen that before, dont remember the solution04:30
BluesKajKonqueror as a browser needs flashplayer-nonfree and flashplugin-nonfree and the required java plugin players04:30
Dr_willisthats.. odd.04:30
Minatakulo, Dr_willis04:30
MinatakuYour wife doing okay?04:30
Dr_willisyep shes up and doing a few things  then going back to bed..04:30
Dr_willisthen yelling at me to do things..04:30
JucatoBluesKaj: hm.... so does Firefox...04:30
dpsI had ubuntu installed... worked ok... on kubuntu, i did the exact same thing and doesn't work04:31
MinatakuGood to hear... the "she's okay" part, that is04:31
MinatakuThe "yelling at you" part, not so good04:31
sparrwwsjunior: neat, but not nice.  putting unrelated features in the same extension is a horrible practice.  what if ive already got another extension that provides a 'go up' button?04:31
Dr_williskubuntu and ubuntu both use the same core. So it shouldent matter there.04:31
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BluesKajyeah  Jucato , but some ppl still prefer konq ...dunno why04:31
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Dr_willisdps,  you mean to say you Uninstalled Ubuntu and installed Kubuntu over it?04:31
rjunebecauase it's a nice browser.04:31
dpsDr_willis: I know man,  i usually don't need help on this thingies... that's why i'm here04:31
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JucatoBluesKaj: your "argument" makes no sense...04:31
dpsI formated the disk04:31
MinatakuFirefox has legitimate Flash and Java plugins04:32
wsjuniorsparrw: true04:32
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Dr_willisdps,  you do realize that there was no need to do that. You can have Kubuntu and Ubujntu both on the same install. :)04:32
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BluesKajnot an argument Jucato, just what I've noticed ...I prefer FF as well04:32
dpsDr_willis: yes, i realize, but it was faster to reinstall04:32
dpsDr_willis: i had the cd here04:32
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JucatoBluesKaj: I use Konq04:32
wsjuniorsparrw: i liked mainly the file picker tricky04:33
MinatakuAt some time in the past, someone added to the Fx ebuild the option to grab and install Java with it04:33
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nahemothyou guys have any idea about where I can find the "file association"04:33
Dr_willisI would have to say check the ubuntu/kubuntu forums - it maybe some odd bug with your video/motherboard.04:33
sparrwwsjunior: aye, ill be doing that04:33
Jucato<BluesKaj> Konqueror as a browser needs flashplayer-nonfree and flashplugin-nonfree and the required java plugin players + <BluesKaj> yeah  Jucato , but some ppl still prefer konq ...dunno why <--- doesn't make sense04:33
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Jucatonahemoth: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror04:33
DemonSamuraianyone can tell me how to mount my 2nd ntfs drive please?04:34
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MinatakuAbout the only real "benefit" provided by Konq is that it's preloaded with KDE to launch faster (because it's already in memory)04:34
Jucato!ntfs | DemonSamurai04:34
ubotuDemonSamurai: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:34
MinatakuI, however, consider this "benefit" a horrible misfeature04:34
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MinatakuSince it's just taking up RAM that could be better used elsewhere when Konq isn't running04:34
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nahemothJucato:  thank you very much04:35
dazjorz] dmix04:35
Jucatobenefits of Konqi? close integration to KDE, KParts, kioslaves04:35
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:35
dazjorzah, there04:35
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MinatakuJucato: Konq is to KDE as IE is to Windows04:35
dpsIsn't the kdeteam dropping arts?04:35
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dpsin kde 4?04:35
MinatakuThat alone should make you seriously rethink Konq04:36
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MinatakuIt's KDE's explorer.exe XD04:36
Jucatoyou are soooooooo out of it... but I don't want to argue with you04:36
dpsKonqueror is very nice04:36
dpsand opens faster...04:36
MinatakuOh, close integration with KDE, dual-use as browser and file manager... yeah, that's not IE04:36
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Jucatohope you can roll it back down04:37
MinatakuIf you don't see the parallel, you're either blind or in denial04:37
Dr_willisthe parallel makes it bad? I dont follow that logic.04:37
dpsWhat's wront with  "close integration with KDE, dual-use as browser and file manager" ?04:37
MinatakuDr_willis: What it parallels TO makes it bad04:38
JucatoMinataku: if you don't know the difference. then you're ignorant04:38
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Jucatonuff said. good bye04:38
BluesKajall i said was s"ome ppl prefer konq and i dunno why "...is there an argument in that statement ...cuz i truly don't know why04:38
Dr_willisi still dont see the logic. :)04:39
MinatakuI do know the difference, I just know that it sounds far too much like something I'd prefer to stay away from04:39
Dr_willisthen again im tired.. :) so...04:39
MinatakuDr_willis: Heh04:39
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dpsMinataku:  You seem my grandmother talking about computers04:39
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MinatakuDr_willis: O.o04:39
MinatakuIs that what your wife asked you to do? ;304:39
Dr_willisShe had me give her birds clean water.04:39
Dr_willisThe silly cockateils.04:39
dangbertI need some help with a couple of problems.  The Alternate CD and my wireless network,  .  Lets take the wireless first.04:39
BluesKajwhoa now there's an insult04:39
Dr_willisJumped right in the bowl.04:39
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MinatakuDr_willis: Heh04:39
MinatakuMy aunt trained her cockatiel to crap in an empty bowl04:40
MinatakuThe downside?04:40
MinatakuHe craps in all of them04:40
admin__admin_: Hello, Can you please change your nick, I always am normally admin_ on freenode.04:40
MinatakuIncluding the ones with food and water04:40
MinatakuIt's rare, but he'll do it whenever so inclined04:40
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BluesKajeveryone wants to be the boss :)...geez get a life04:40
MinatakuBluesKaj: Better yet, "get a real nick"04:41
MinatakuAm I right?04:41
BluesKajhehe, yup04:41
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SlimeyPeteor just "register your nick and use the ghost command"04:41
MinatakuAnyway, fact of the matter is, I don't like Konq because it has qualities that I consider undesireable04:41
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BluesKajadmin ...titles that mean nothing are still importanr to some ppl04:42
MinatakuBluesKaj: Not to mention it's either "adm" or "sysadm" in Unix04:42
MinatakuDepending on the flavor you so choose04:43
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BluesKajJucato seems kinda argumentative today04:43
dangbertI know you guys are having a great time, but could I break in long enough to ask a question?04:43
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:43
zipperdangbert, try04:43
Minatakudangbert: Do we look like we're here to help!? Oh, wait... we are.04:43
jussi01dangbert: go ahead!04:43
MinatakuYeah, go ahead04:43
jussi01:P Minataku04:43
llp78When I shutdown - the PC hangs on the kubuntu screen and will not shutdown - how can i fond out whats causing this ?04:44
dangbertI have a wireless problem.  I can make it to the router  but not through04:44
Minatakullp78: /var/log/messages.old04:44
MinatakuI believe04:44
MinatakuShould be at the end04:44
llp78Minataku: ty ill have a look04:44
MinatakuI'm guessing it's gonna be a case of ACPI not working04:44
MinatakuIt probably sends a poweroff command which never does anything04:44
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MinatakuEither that or for some reason it's merely set to halt instead of poweroff, possibly due to lack of [working]  ACPI04:45
dazjorzUT2004 keeps saying /dev/dsp is in use04:45
dazjorzbut lsof /dev/dsp gives no output04:45
llp78Minataku: dont have messages.old04:45
dangbertThat is other problem - acpi04:45
Minatakullp78: Nuts04:45
dazjorzam I using the wrong command to check? :/04:45
Minatakudazjorz: Try fuser04:45
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WillLuongoHello all! Is it possible to reinstall KUbuntu without losing my settings, programs, etc?04:45
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llp78Minataku: i have messages.004:45
zipperafter recovering Grub (after installing windows) i'm getting this error when starting up: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=3720704:46
Minatakullp78: That's probably it04:46
Minatakullp78: BTW04:46
zipperalso gets it when running 'fsck'04:46
MinatakuDoes your computer force an fsck when it reboots?04:46
MinatakuRather, when you boot it back up after the theoretically failed shutdown?04:46
llp78Minataku doesnt force anything or reboot04:46
zipperit think it tries, but fails horribly. Also says something about "apt-get not installed. Run apt-get install apt to get it"04:47
MinatakuIt may be shutting down properly then just halting04:47
BluesKajsame here llp78, so Ive been doing the 3finger linux salute ,ctrl+alt+backspace, then choosing shutdown from the login menu04:47
Minatakullp78: Check the end of that messages.004:47
dazjorzMinataku: Thanks, "fuser /dev/dsp" gives no output - that means it's not in use, right?04:47
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Minatakudazjorz: Should mean that, yeah04:47
navetsanyone here know how to get warcraft 3 working on wine?04:48
Minatakudazjorz: UNLESS04:48
MinatakuIt's being used by the kernel or something04:48
MinatakuI just tried fuser /dev/sda and got nothing04:48
sivaji2009i wrote a shell program which create a copy of its own in a infinite loop will this prog affect  my ram ?04:48
dazjorzMinataku: That's odd, why would the *kernel* user /dev/dsp?04:48
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llp78Minataku: sorry to sound soo stupid - but what am I looking for in the messages.004:49
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llp78Minataku: last line = exiting on signal 1504:50
llp78i think thats when i have to keep finger on pwr buttin to shut down04:50
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Minatakudazjorz: It won't04:50
Wipsterhey all, my eth0 is up appraently when I try to do ifup but its not showing in my network interfaces only my second one is04:50
Minatakullp78: What exited on signal 15?04:50
MinatakuThat would be SIGTERM04:50
sivaji2009jucato :04:51
MinatakuI believe04:51
dazjorz$ ut200404:51
dazjorzopen /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy04:51
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dazjorzMinataku: It keeps saying that04:51
BluesKajllp78, try ctrl+alt+backspace, then choosing shutdown from the login menu , see if that works04:51
llp78Minataku: desktop existed on signal 1504:51
dazjorzMinataku: When I do have sound, it doesn't say that04:51
dazjorzMinataku: /dev/sound doesn't exist, so it's /dev/dsp, but lsof says it's not in use04:51
dazjorzand so does fuser04:51
Minatakudazjorz: Well, I just typed "play somemp3ihavelayingaround.mp3" and did fuser on /dev/dsp and got nothing04:51
MinatakuOf course, /dev/dsp is only there because of ALSA OSS emulation04:52
MinatakuOne sec04:52
MinatakuLemme keep investigating04:52
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dazjorzMinataku: Thanks a lot04:52
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MinatakuYOU REEK-A!04:53
MinatakupcmC0D0p:            ed        27255 F...m sox04:53
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MinatakuRather, /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p04:53
TuTuFFdoes anyone percvhance know the Ubuntu equivalent of /etc/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules please?04:53
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Minatakudazjorz: Try a fuser /dev/snd/*04:53
dazjorzkmix    5433 dazjorz   10u   CHR  116,7      13647 controlC004:53
dangbertAnyone having wireless problems?  All of a sudden, Kubuntu will not recognize my wireless card via automatic and will not log on.04:53
Minatakukmix is hogging up the sound04:53
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Minatakudazjorz: Show it no mercy04:53
dazjorzMinataku: when I quit it, it says 'artsd' is using it04:54
MinatakuThen do the same in UT2K404:54
MinatakuYeah, zap that crap, too04:54
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MinatakuYou can always restart it04:54
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BluesKaj!wireless | dangbert04:54
ubotudangbert: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:54
MinatakuI hate those audio middlemen daemons04:54
MinatakuAll they do is hog up the devices04:54
dazjorzMinataku: it restarted -_-04:54
MinatakuSo anything that tries to use them directly gets told to piss off04:54
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Minatakudazjorz: Bah!04:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about artsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about arts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:55
DemonSamuraianyone ever run windows games like WoW or Lineage2 on Kubuntu?04:55
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dazjorzthere's nothing in /etc/init.d for arts to kill it04:55
MinatakuPiece of crap04:55
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Minatakudazjorz: That's because it's a KDE thing04:55
dangbertThanks, and bye04:55
MinatakuGot any other WMs? You probably have twm04:55
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Minataku!info twm04:55
ubotutwm: Tab window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-4build1 (feisty), package size 93 kB, installed size 284 kB04:55
dazjorzMinataku: *gah*04:55
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dazjorzMinataku: when I run ut2004, a loading window appears04:56
Minatakudazjorz: Good04:56
dazjorzthen KDE restarts artsd just for the sound that always comes when a new window is made -_-04:56
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Minatakudazjorz: I'm thinking get twm for launching stuff04:56
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MinatakuThat way artsd and kmix and any of their little buddies can piss off04:57
Minatakutwm is very minimalistic04:57
MinatakuBut all you'll be doing is launching UT2K4 from it04:57
DemonSamuraiwhen i try to open Adept updater i put in the password and i get a message that says apt-get or aptitude much be in use04:57
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dazjorzbut then I'm going to have to close all of my windows just to run UT2K404:57
DemonSamurai but they are not help pls04:57
dazjorzwhich feels like rebooting to go to Windows to play a game, which sucks04:57
Minatakudazjorz: Crap04:57
dazjorzDemonSamurai: what happens when you run sudo apt-get update in a terminal?04:58
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ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:58
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MinatakuUP YOURS04:58
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MinatakuARTS running is the damn PROBLEM here04:58
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MinatakuCheck those links anyway, they might help04:58
dazjorzI'll disable the sound system ;)04:58
dazjorzin kcontrol04:58
dazjorzthen it'll probably work04:59
MinatakuBut then everything else will break04:59
dazjorzthe files aren't in use anymore04:59
DemonSamuraii must manually run dpkg --configure -a to correct the problem04:59
dazjorzhere goes nothing05:00
MinatakuSince everything in Kubuntu is compiled to use artsd05:00
dazjorzDemonSamurai: use sudo dpkg if you're not root :)05:00
Minataku!adeptfix | DemonSamurai05:00
ubotuDemonSamurai: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:00
BluesKajalsa rides on artsd ?05:00
michael__how do i find my usergroup?05:00
Minatakuartsd is just some lousy piece of crap middleman05:00
MinatakuIt hogs the devices05:00
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BluesKajfor what apps Minataku ?05:00
dazjorzMinataku: Yay, it works, thanks a lot :)05:00
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MinatakuSo anything wishing to play sound while it's running MUST run through it05:00
Minatakudazjorz: You're welcome05:00
MinatakuIf nothing else works now05:00
MinatakuReenable it05:00
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MinatakuThe sound system, chances are you'll have to05:01
MinatakuWhich will lead to disabling it to run the game, and enabling it when you're done05:01
dazjorzYeah, I'll reenable it when I'm done gaming ;)05:01
MinatakuJust pray that ARTS is gone in KDE405:01
BluesKajif i'm using alsa ...is the artsdaemon running as well ?05:01
MinatakuBluesKaj: No05:01
Minatakuartsd is part of KDE05:02
MinatakuIt's the daemon for it's dumbass sound abstraction05:02
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MinatakuLike I said, it's only purpose is to piss people off by hogging the sound devices and making direct sound device access impossible05:02
BluesKajsound abstarction? ...ok whatever that means :)05:03
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Dr_willisBlueDevil,  thats the funky music these kids are listing to these days?05:03
MinatakuI don't know why anyone bothers with it since it's KDE-specific and just jams up anything lacking an ARTS output driver05:04
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MinatakuDr_willis: No, that's sound abberation05:04
DemonSamuraianyone can help me run Lineage II on linux?05:04
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Dr_willisDemonSamurai,  check the wine/cedega forums/wikis yet?05:04
DemonSamuraiDr_willis gimme link pls05:05
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:05
Dr_williswine or cedega is what you use to run windows apps.05:05
Dr_williscedga is comercial and focused on games. A lot of games can work with wine now however.05:05
DemonSamuraii installed wine05:05
DemonSamuraibut i cannot use anything from windows05:06
Dr_williswine pathto/setup.exe05:06
DemonSamuraithey are trying to run but nothing is running at the end05:06
Dr_willisyou dont use stuff from your windows isntall.. you install it with wine.05:06
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Dr_willisits possible that wine cant handle the game. its also possible that there may be some wine/game options that can make it work.05:06
MinatakuYou have to run it from the CLI05:06
Minataku"wine" as a command launches everything wine needs to function and finally the specified .exe05:07
Dr_willisusing wine from the command line will alsy let you see any error messages it may be spitting out05:07
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sivaji2009general question http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25552/05:09
MinatakuGonna test out Aurora Linux, I think05:12
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MinatakuTry it on my Ultra 1 with the bad CG605:12
MinatakuIf I can stomach it05:12
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MinatakuWhat's supposed to be white is instead best described as "piss yellow"05:12
DemonSamuraianyone can tell me where to find codecs ? cause i cannot play mp3s or divx movies?05:13
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MinatakuThe codecs page SHOULD have all that info05:13
MinatakuKnowing Ubuntu, though, who knows05:13
Dr_willismp3 stuff is different from the needed video codecs also. :)05:13
BluesKajhhmm, i can get some windows exe files to run their apps in wine05:13
Dr_williswine is a gamble :)05:14
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MinatakuDr_willis: It would be05:15
jermaini everyone05:15
MinatakuThings like this are why I don't use *buntu and never will XD05:15
Dr_willisi noone :)05:15
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jermaincan someone tell me how to define in which directory on the server i want to put the file i want to upload05:16
Dr_willisI can honestly say - that ive rarely had any issues with ubuntu.. compared to some of these other disrtos ive fought with.05:16
jermainif i use a script with the ftp-command05:16
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Dr_willishave the script cd to the right dir?05:17
Dr_willisor perhaps give the full path for the put ftp command.05:17
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jermainhmm that sounds quite logical05:17
jermainthank you i'll try it05:17
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BluesKajMinataku, so what OS do you run ...gentoo?05:18
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MinatakuBluesKaj: Yeah05:19
Dr_willisHe has DistCC running on 10 VMS machines...05:19
Dr_willisand a PDP1105:20
MinatakuThat'd be over the top even for ME05:20
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Dr_willis sudo apt-get install gentoo05:22
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BluesKajsure :)05:23
Jucato!info gentoo | Dr_willis05:23
ubotudr_willis: gentoo: a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.55-1.1 (feisty), package size 764 kB, installed size 2432 kB05:23
Dr_willisJucato,  yep - i use it all the time.05:23
Jucatono one's complaining about trademarks? hehehe05:23
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navetscan anyone here help me fix my video driver05:23
Dr_willisIts a DirectoryOpus Clone also. :) for ya old-amiga-addicts05:24
BluesKajgentoo, an X file manager...since when ?05:26
navetscan anyone here help me fix my video driver?05:26
JucatoBluesKaj: there really is an app named Gentoo...05:26
Jucato!anyone | navets05:27
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Daisuke_Idois it good?05:27
StErGi0sanyone knows why my mp3s sound a bit noisy?05:27
BluesKajinteresting Jucato , but it's always meant an OS to me05:27
JucatoBluesKaj: it will mean a kind of penguin to a biologist/zoologist...05:28
BluesKajyes I got that05:28
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Daisuke_Idoi've been looking for a good file manager...  konqueror and dolphin don't do it for me (and i absolutely despise dolphin)05:28
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Jucato(btw, don't despise Dolphin till you tried it on KDE 4)05:29
BluesKajdolphin doesn't have the right options IMO05:29
Silent_Ghello, somebody can tell me what this error means? http://rafb.net/p/N9SuKo34.html05:29
Daisuke_IdoJucato: fair enough, i'll wait to pass judgement :)05:29
Jucatoif you're going to base it on the KDE 3 version. then definitely despise that version... :)05:29
Daisuke_Idothe kde3 version is truly terrible05:30
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Daisuke_Idoit has problems even accessing mounted media :\05:30
JucatoDaisuke_Ido: that might have something to do with Kubuntu's Media patch... not really sure05:30
thomax__does anyone know why vlc fullscreen doesn't work propper anymore?05:30
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Dr_willisworks for me.05:32
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thomax__Qt: 3.3.705:32
thomax__KDE: 3.5.605:32
thomax__kde-config: 1.005:32
BluesKajDaisuke_Ido, dolphin accesses ntfs without any probs here ...05:32
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JuJuBeeWhy is it that every time I install and try to create a separate /home I get "No bootable device" after the reboot?  If I install a single partition, it works fine.05:35
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thomax__It looks like this whe I do fullscreen05:35
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thomax__it still has the window decoration :(05:36
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michaelhas anyone used the gmailfs05:37
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BluesKajyeah, thomax__ VLC and mplayer do that ..kaffeine seems to be the player that fullscrns without the panel05:38
thomax__yeah I know05:38
thomax__but I like vlc05:38
Daisuke_Idoi thought maybe JUST MAYBE i could save a step in ripping, keep from ripping wice, once to flac and once to v005:38
thomax__it worked in previous version of kubuntu05:38
Minatakuthomax__: I _think_ VLC can run on the framebuffer05:39
MinatakuI know mplayer can05:39
MinatakuYou'll get pure video if you do that05:39
thomax__and how do we do that?05:39
thomax__Minataku: ?05:40
MinatakuVirtual Terminal05:40
Minatakuvlc filename05:40
MinatakuIf *buntu is saner than I'm hoping, it'll have support05:40
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MinatakuIf you get "cannot open DISPLAY" or whatever, then I lose more faith in it :P05:40
thomax__I'll try that, but it isn't what I wanted :)05:42
MinatakuIt WILL give you fullscreen without the decorations05:42
MinatakuIF it works05:42
thomax__okay thanx05:42
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thomax__Minataku: unable to initialize gtk :(05:42
thomax__is display set propperly05:43
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BluesKajyup, i get the same error05:44
BluesKajand the screen is very jumpy05:45
BluesKajhi Silent_G05:46
Silent_Gi installed kubuntu in text mode, and installed everything manual05:46
Silent_Git worked now05:46
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Silent_Gdo you by anychance know what this error means ? http://rafb.net/p/N9SuKo34.html05:47
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BluesKajno sorry, Silent_G05:48
Silent_Gok thankz05:48
BluesKajMinataku, ?05:48
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JuJuBeeI have 2 HD sda (/, /home, swap) and sdb(/backup).  fdisk -l shows boot disk as sdb.  How do I change to sda?05:50
jermain_minataku, your advice helped. but the file doesnt seem to get uploaded. The thing is:05:50
jermain_the file to upload is /home/jermain_/directory/somefile05:51
Dr_willisJuJuBee,  these are SATA disks?05:51
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jermain_but as destination05:51
JuJuBeeGetting No bootable device after fresh install05:51
jermain_it keeps trying to put in in the file to upload is /home/jermain_/directory/somefile on the remote server05:51
jermain_but those dir dont exist there05:51
Dr_willis Swap thje Cables I guess. :) is one way. Sounds tome like grub is getting isntalled to the wrong disk.05:51
JuJuBeeCan I reinstall grub to the first disk?05:52
Dr_willisyou can install grub to both disks if you wanted to05:52
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Dr_willisyou can install grub to 1000000 disks if you wanted to. :)05:52
JuJuBeeHow do I manually install grub after the install?05:52
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Dr_willisUsage: grub-install [OPTION]  install_device05:53
JuJuBeeOk, I will look05:53
MinatakuAh, yeah, it must not properly support working on the fb05:53
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MinatakuTotally lame05:53
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Minatakubinary\ packages--05:54
marckie_hi Minataku!05:54
Dr_willisOh the Humanity of it all! :005:54
MinatakuNot much05:54
marckie_my kubuntu got busted last night... huhuhuhu...05:54
marckie_got black screen after installing nvidia...05:54
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Dr_willisya got a tv hooked up?05:54
jermain_oh btw minataku, are you japanese or do you just have a japanese nickname?05:54
marckie_well Ill be installing envy first next time...05:55
Minatakujermain_: The latter05:55
JuJuBeeDr_Willis : is install_device /dev/sda1 if that is my / part on first hd?05:55
marckie_his chinese... peace out!05:55
Dr_willisJuJuBee,  /dev/sda05:55
jermain_aww dang -.- i'm going there later this year and was hoping for advice :p05:55
JuJuBeeOk, thanks05:55
Dr_willissda1 would be the first partition, not the drive05:56
Minatakujermain_: Lucky :o05:56
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Dr_willis'dont drink the water' :)05:56
DexterFthe korgac icon sometimes doesn't show up, anyone else got this?05:56
JuJuBeeWhat {OPTION} do I need?  --root-directory=?05:56
DexterFit should load with the session05:56
Dr_willisgrub-install /dev/sda05:57
Dr_willisis proberly all ya need05:57
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JuJuBeeCould not find device for /boot05:57
jermain_hehe ^^05:57
JuJuBeeI'm booted from live cd05:57
MinatakuDr_willis: That's Mexico05:58
Dr_willisyou need to 'chroot' into the installed disrto.05:58
jermain_well, i'm out. have fun guys. And thanks again for the help mina05:58
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JuJuBeeHow do I chroot ?06:00
JuJuBeewhat is the new root?06:00
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Silent_GBluesKaj, is there a way to use the VESA driver when installing kubuntu?06:02
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ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:03
blurpyhi! i just did a clean install of kubuntu 7.04, and tar segfaults. nice! i tried to reinstall it, but it seems apt-get depends on tar, and tar segfaulted. any ideas?06:03
JuJuBeegrub > find /boot/grub/stage1 returns (hd0,0)06:03
BluesKajSilent_G, i think the the default driver is the vesa driver until kubuntu recognizes your hardware and runs the the closest appropriate driver06:03
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BluesKajthomax__, in VLC there is a full screen option06:04
Dr_willisblurpy,  id be wondering at bad ram, or currupted install media. as being the problem06:04
BluesKajas there is in mplayer too06:04
Silent_GBluesKaj, when i try to install kubuntu. it just goes into a screen full of colours and crashes, is there some option or something i can use to use VESA driver?06:04
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Dr_willisSilent_G,  the alternative install cd uses text based installer.  What video card ya got anyway? not sure what grub 'cheatcodes' ubuntu handles for  vesa/other settings.06:05
blurpyDr_willis: i've been running gentoo on it for the last 2 years, so don't think ram is the problem. i checked the media before the install too. could have been a corrupt install anyway maybe06:05
BluesKajSilent_G, are you doing a net install from the live cd or a plain cd install ?06:05
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Dr_willisblurpy,  sure sounds like it to me.   Wouldent hurt to try the memtest stuff in any case.06:06
Silent_GDr_willis, i have a via Chrome9 k8m890. no linux distribution supports it, only works on vesa ( until i install openchrome drivers then it works)06:06
Silent_GBluesKaj,  i have a Kubuntu DVD not Cd06:06
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Dr_willisSilent_G,  sounds like a good canidate for the alternative install cd to me. :() not sure how to tell the livecd to use vesa06:06
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blurpyDr_willis: i'll give the memtest a try, thanks06:06
Dr_willisi thought the DVD had the alt and live cd both on it.06:06
Silent_Gso no one knows how to use the vesa driver?06:07
MinatakuI might06:07
MinatakuOne moment please06:07
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WaxyFreshim running gnome,but i like the look of kde is there anyway i can install just the kde application bar?06:08
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MinatakuSilent_G: What video resolution do you want?06:10
MinatakuI'ma craft the whole thing for ya, here06:10
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Silent_GMinataku, 1024x76806:10
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Silent_Gand thankz man :)06:10
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MinatakuSilent_G: np06:11
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MinatakuSilent_G: Try "video=vesafb vga=0x318"06:12
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Silent_Glike that it will use the vesa or the vga driver?06:13
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payamdoes anyone know what i should to choss as a partition manager?06:13
MinatakuVESA driver and 1024x768xsomething06:13
MinatakuI gave you the vga string I use on my laptop06:13
carlos__alguien habla espaol06:13
zipperpayam, qtparted is pretty popular06:13
Silent_Gok then , i'll try it now :p06:14
MinatakuI know it's 1024x768 but I forget the color depth06:14
Minataku!es | carlos__06:14
ubotucarlos__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:14
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FSHeroMinataku: Does GNOME use ARTS? Or only KDE?06:14
carlos__ok gracias06:14
MinatakuFSHero: Only KDE uses that crap06:14
FSHeroMinataku: (I was just viewing the earlier convo)06:14
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MinatakuGNOME may use something different, though06:14
MinatakuI know GNOME uses that horrific "hald"06:14
FSHeroMinataku: So I might be better using Ubuntu rather than Kubuntu for simplicity?06:14
MinatakuWhich if I'm correct is like arts but for EVERYTHING06:15
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MinatakuFSHero: No, you're not06:15
FSHeroMinataku: Is Xfce better?06:15
MinatakuUnless you count lack of easily configurable options as simpler and better06:15
MinatakuNever used XFce06:15
FSHeroMinataku: Last question (hopefully!): If I run a KDE app like Amarok, but in Xfce, will that use ARTS?06:16
MinatakuFSHero: It certainly shouldn't, or should at least have proper support for ALSA and/or OSS compiled in06:16
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animimotusI have 2 errors in a .PO with Kbabel06:17
MinatakuBut then from what I've seen so far of various precompiled things around here, who the heck knows06:17
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FSHeroMinataku: Excellent. I'm using Xfce anyway (got a slow comp)... but I'm planning for the future. Thanks dude... you are a genius!06:17
MinatakuFSHero: Heehee06:17
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animimotussomethings about "invalid nplurals value" and "Language-Team still has initial value"06:18
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Minatakuanimimotus: Heh, you might be better off seeing if kbabel has a channel here06:19
animimotusoh, I didn't know it exist Minataku06:19
MinatakuIt does exist? Cool.06:19
animimotusMinataku: in fact... no...06:20
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Daisuke_Idoamarok works well under xfce (ubuntu repo version), and there's always the additional amarok packages (amarok-xine and amarok-engines)06:20
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MinatakuDamn. XD06:20
Minatakuanimimotus: Maybe try #kde then06:20
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thomax__BluesKaj: about the vlc06:22
GrahamHey, I've managed to get ahold of an ATI radeon 9800 pro APG graphics card, what drivers do I need to download and stuff?06:22
thomax__I know there is a full screen option , but it doesnt seem to work06:22
GrahamBasicly, what do I do?06:22
MinatakuGraham: Throw it out06:23
Dr_willisGraham,  that uses the fglrx drivers06:23
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:23
GrahamMinataku: Why would you say that?06:23
MinatakuGraham: Because it's an ATI card06:23
Dr_willisI got a card just like that as a 'spare'06:23
Dr_willisits lasted through several pc's :)06:23
GrahamMinataku: So?06:24
thomax__Graham: nvidia > ati06:24
MinatakuIf you don't use Windows, ATI hates you. As a person.06:24
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GrahamMinataku: I'm a nvidia person myself, but considering my current card is a geforce 2 MX, I'm not fucking complaining!06:24
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:24
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coreymon77linux and ATI dont like eachother06:25
MinatakuRather, ATI just hates Linux06:25
tomas_hello! please can anyone help me where can I set up applications which I need to start after system startup?06:25
GrahamATI is not an entity that has feelings.06:25
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MinatakuCorporations have feelings. Typically just one, hatred for what/whoever they don't like06:27
MinatakuOh, and lust, but only for money06:27
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coreymon77and power06:28
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Minatakucoreymon77: Same difference06:28
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BluesKajthomax__, sorry to hear that...could be a driver issue ...I'm running an elcheapo aati with the FGLRX modded patched driver for 3D and tv layering and it all seems to work ok.06:29
thomax__when I'm in beryl, it works fine to06:29
thomax__but not in kwin06:30
tomas_hello! please can anyone help me where can I set up applications which I need to start after kubuntu system startup?06:30
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Silent_GMinataku, nothing it crashed again into the screen full of colours06:32
BluesKajGraham, if you are trying to squeeze as much out of your ATI card as possible , try this tutorial altho i think you already know about it, if my poor memory serves me correctly : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty06:32
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BluesKajSilent_G, how far into the install process do you get to when it crashes ?06:34
Silent_Gyou know the black Screen when the big Blue "Kubuntu" and a loading line comes?06:35
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Silent_Gwhen the blue loading line reaches the end , (like 90% of the line) it goes into a screen full of colours06:36
BluesKajafter all the partitioning and copying files to the HDD takes place or ?06:36
Silent_Gbefore everything06:36
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GrahamCheers BluesKaj06:36
a-865anyone know how to get wget to download an iso instead of a symlink?06:37
Silent_Gwhen you boot, and the options comes up, then you have: Star or install kubuntu, install textmode, install console-system, install text-mode for maintainrs06:37
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Silent_Gthen i choose to install kubunu, and that loading line comes06:37
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Silent_Gthen it crashes when its nearly finished into a screen full of colours06:37
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:37
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Grantwhere is the file that you can add devices to boot?06:38
llutzGrant: /boot/grub/menu.lst06:39
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Silent_Gyou know what im saying BluesKaj ?06:39
BluesKajyes, Silent_G but I'm at a loss ...dunno how to help:(06:40
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Silent_Gman i wish they add this video card to the linux distros06:41
Silent_GMinataku, do you know an idea?06:42
MinatakuThe VESA driver failed?06:42
MinatakuThere's one more fallback06:42
Silent_Gas usual, it crashed into the screen full of colours06:42
MinatakuReplace all I gave you with "video=vga"06:42
Silent_Gvga doesnt work with my video card06:43
Silent_Gi tried it many times06:43
MinatakuThen your video card won't work period.06:43
Silent_Gonly vesa, and openchrome drivers from openchrome.org work06:43
BluesKajSilent_G, I know it's no help to you , but pclinux and a few other distros won't come close to loading an install on my pc06:43
MinatakuSilent_G: Any way you can get some kind of temporary stand-in?06:43
MinatakuOr use a serial port?06:43
Silent_Gwhat do you mean?06:43
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MinatakuPut in a temporary loaner card06:44
MinatakuOr install via a serial terminal06:44
navetscan someone help me getting opengl to work?06:44
Silent_Gright now im in kubuntu06:44
Silent_Gwhat i did was, made a consol-system install06:44
Silent_Git installs only console06:44
Silent_Gand then i installed Xorg and KDE06:44
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Silent_Gits deferent from the normal kubuntu installation06:44
Silent_Gi want the normal installation06:44
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AyabaraI seem to have lost the "window" menu in konqueror. Anyone know where it is? :-)06:45
MinatakuSilent_G: It's just different means to the same end06:45
BluesKajMinataku, what about  'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and then he can choose the vesa driver from the options06:46
coreymon77Ayabara: cntrl+m06:46
Silent_Gright now everything is ok06:46
coreymon77Ayabara: or f1106:46
Silent_Gcause i made a console installation and installed everything06:46
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MinatakuBluesKaj: Yeah, that could work fine, if he was only having issue with X06:46
Silent_Geven openchrome driver06:46
MinatakuSilent_G: Then you're fine06:46
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Silent_Gbut the kde is not using the normal kubuntu theme06:46
MinatakuSilent_G: You got to the same place, you just took a different way there06:46
Silent_Gand i have somekind of problem, let me show it to you06:46
SanneSilent_G: the package kubuntu-desktop should install what's missing for you.06:47
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Minatakumr_: Get a new keyboard.06:47
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Silent_GMinataku, do you know something about this eror - http://rafb.net/p/N9SuKo34.html06:47
mr_kanal voll06:48
arrautzasorry but i need undretsof help06:48
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Ayabaracoreymon77, thanks, but I'm missing the window-dropdown menu where I can select "split window".06:48
MinatakuSilent_G: Yeah, there's no such thing as "modules" in the makefile06:48
Ayabarait exists, doesn't it?06:48
MinatakuSilent_G: It seems to be a bogus target06:49
Silent_Gand what can i do about it Minataku ? i really need to install that its the DRM for my graphic card06:49
arrautzai'm trying yo install firefox32 on my amd64... with all the posibles plugs in06:49
coreymon77Ayabara: not sure what you mean06:49
MinatakuSilent_G: Complain to whoever made the package06:49
arrautzabut can't do it06:49
Silent_Gits not a problem with the package Minataku , cause i installed it on Gentoo Distro06:49
arrautzacan anybody help me?06:50
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SanneAyabara: kubuntu's konqueror is customized a bit, if I remember correctly. I think I also didn't have a split window in the menu by default.06:50
BluesKajarrautza, try swiftfox,it's the 64bit version of FF06:50
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MinatakuSilent_G: Hrm... it seems like it is06:50
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arrautzawith all inclusive??06:50
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MinatakuSilent_G: Sorry, though, either way I'm out of ideas now06:51
arrautzamean... adove and stuff??06:51
Silent_Gok but thankz for everything ;)06:51
AyabaraSanne, explains it06:51
arrautzathe plugs to see vidios for example?06:52
SanneAyabara: I'm finding you a howto to restore the functions, sec06:52
AyabaraSanne, thanks a lot06:52
MinatakuSilent_G: np06:52
MinatakuHang around, someone else may be able to help you out06:53
Silent_Gi will06:53
SanneAyabara: two links: 1. from the kubuntu faq: http://www.google.com/search?btnG=Google+Search&q=kubuntu+konqueror+profiles   2. Howto by a user: http://jucato.org/kde/konq-profiles.html06:53
Silent_Glook at this Minataku http://rafb.net/p/YRIQKt23.html06:54
Silent_Gi found it on google06:54
BluesKajwhew Minataku , from what Silent_G said I thot that he wasn't able to install kubuntu at all ... all that other stuff went right by me :)06:54
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BluesKajtime fro a break and a few beers on the patio06:54
Silent_Goffer some BluesKaj  ;p06:54
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BluesKajlate gents and gentoos :)06:55
Silent_Glaterz, peace06:55
AyabaraSanne, ah. two lines was all that was needed. thanks :-)06:55
SanneAyabara: you're welcome :)06:55
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arrautzawhat about swiftfox?? will i see youtube for example?? sorry to ask but i'm terribly new with this06:57
_martyhow do I make sound come out of my usb headset instead of my sound card?06:57
dwidmannswiftfox, you mean that recompile of firefox with the ugly license?06:58
crimsun_marty: see `asoundconf list` and `asoundconf set-default-card`06:58
darkrift__how do i kill a frozen app?06:58
_martycrimsun: I saw that on google and tried it but it didn't work06:58
arrautzawhere can i find a version os swiftfox for amd turion 64??06:58
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Dr_willisswiftfox is  not THAT cpu specific. :)06:59
SayersIs there a way I can reset Kwallet?06:59
Granthow do I make it so ntfs-3g mounts a drive each time linux boots?06:59
Dr_willisGrant,  put an entry in the fstab file is the old-skool way.06:59
arrautzathere are version for semprom & others06:59
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Dr_willisarrautza,  sounds a bit silly to me for them to go that extreme.07:00
arrautzasayer: i made another wallet, other name.. errase the oldone and then i create it again07:00
darkrift__how do i kill a frozen app? firefox wont close07:00
Dr_willisi doubt if the turion is that much diff from the semeron.07:00
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crimsun_marty: did you restart the alsa app?07:01
Dr_willisdarkrift__,  could use the 'xkill' command07:01
dwidmanndarkrift__: ctrl + alt + escape, then click on the frozen app07:01
darkrift__there we go, ty07:01
Grantdefaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 107:02
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Sannedarkrift__: or a gui way (if you prefer that): launch ksysguard, find the app in the processtable, select it and klick the kill button.07:02
Grantwhat does that do?07:02
Grantdo I have to add it for each NTFS mount?07:02
Dr_willisGrant,  theres a ntfs linux wiki/howto/faq page that details that.07:03
nosrednaekimSanne: haha "klck"07:03
Dr_willisGrant,  I do belive your umask= option is wrong however.07:03
Silent_GMinataku, whats the reason that when i install somethign with apt-get it tells me to insert the kubuntu dvd?07:03
Dr_willisGrant,  for each ntfs filesystem - you create a entry for it in the fstab file. correct.07:03
Grantoh, well I got it from a tutorial07:03
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darkrift__ksysguard worked07:03
Sannenosrednaekim: klck?07:03
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Dr_willishttp://www.linux-ntfs.org/  has some of the best info ive seen. May not be ntfs-3g specific however07:04
Sannedarkrift__: if you want, you can add ksysguard to the panel, it's in the applet list called System Guard.07:04
nosrednaekimSanne: you said click with a K, "klick" I think KDE should patent the double klick.:-P07:04
dwidmannSilent_G: because there's an entry for it in your sources.list07:04
ypsilahas anyone a dualboot kubuntu / vista on an amd 64?07:05
Silent_Gdwidmann, how do i remove it? :/07:05
GrantDr_willis: well, that line didn't cause any issues before07:05
nosrednaekimypsila: 64 bit shouldn't make any difference07:05
dwidmannSilent_G: it's probably the first line in your /etc/apt/sources.list file07:05
Dr_willisGrant,  depends on what you are doing.07:05
Sannenosrednaekim: hahaha! I really didn't notice untill now. :)07:05
ypsilanosrednaekim: but vista does?07:05
ypsilanosrednaekim: plus its an ati an 2 screens07:05
GrantDr_willis, I just did "/dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs-3g" before it07:06
nosrednaekimypsila: not really... as long as you partition the disc b4 loading vista. (its easier that way07:06
Sannenosrednaekim: it's also german for click... I think I have confused myself with all those k's :)07:06
SD1Does anyone know how to configure a MSI TV@anywhere Plus or Kworld TV terminator (they are the same)(saa7134)  tuner in Ubuntu 7.04? Because it is not automatically detected (It has no eeprom) and I don't know how to manually configure it. I can't find the config file. I found this on a website [saa7134 card=26 i2c_scan=1 tuner=54]  but I have no idea on how to use it.07:06
nosrednaekimSanne: ah.. ok. then Microsoft probably still holds the patent in Germany.07:06
dwidmannIf you're using 64-bit vista then I feel very, very sorry for you. I've read bad things about vista ... but worse things about the 64-bit edition07:06
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ypsilanosrednaekim: I partition before installing vista?07:06
nosrednaekimypsila: yeah.07:06
nosrednaekimdo you have it installed?07:07
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Sannenosrednaekim: (serious mode) so far Germany doesn't have software patents... hopefully it will remain so for a long time.07:07
ypsilanosrednaekim: uha, thanks for the information, its not for me, its for a freind07:07
ypsilaSanne: you are german?07:07
Sanneypsila: yes07:07
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ypsilaSanne: grzi ;-)07:07
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Sanneypsila: and I think I recognize your nick :)07:07
nosrednaekimSanne: ah... well thats nice... I thought Mp3 codecs were illegal there though?07:08
ypsilaand vista is already installed07:08
dwidmannThe United States is a patent minefield ... I'm surprised they haven't patented wearing pants, wait, they probably did o.O07:08
nosrednaekimypsila: ok.. not porblem really. You just have to shrink the partition within vista07:08
nosrednaekim*not a problem07:08
ypsilanosrednaekim: lets say not legal07:08
MinatakuSay, Dr_willis, how did you send the package? USPS?07:09
nosrednaekimypsila: like dvdcss here? gotcha.07:09
ypsilaoh god, vista is such a fuck07:09
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ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:09
ypsilanosrednaekim: I do not know anything about your country07:09
nosrednaekimypsila: the USA? yeah, well its kinda messed up right now.07:10
ypsilaokeh, vista is a herrgottsackzement07:10
nosrednaekimypsila: heh just don't say that word over at #ubuntu-de lol07:10
Sannenosrednaekim: I think it's still unclear if it would hold up in court, although the european patent organization is known to have granted software patents in the past, although there officially aren't any in europe. I'm confused about that also.07:11
ypsilanosrednaekim: I'm well known at ubuntu-de as I' m part of the kubuntu-de team ;-)07:11
rjuneMein Deutsch ist nicht so gut, was ist herrgottsackzement in Englisch?07:11
nosrednaekimrjune: probably his previous expletive.07:11
ypsilarjune: you cannot really translate that07:11
rjuneypsila: would it be close to your previous expletive?07:13
ypsilarjune: it comes from Herrgott Sakrament and Sakrament is replaced by Sack Zement = sack of cement07:13
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[nk] bahaha07:14
[nk] gentleman god bag cement07:14
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rjunethat doesn't translate.07:14
ypsilaI couldn't imagine vista is that bad07:14
[nk] it translates as "awful" I think ;)07:14
rjunethis sounds similar to "he licks the sweat off a dead man's balls"07:14
ypsila[nk] : not Gentlemen - Christ07:14
[nk] ah07:14
[nk] bahaha07:15
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rjuneI'm not sure what it means. but it doesn't sound positive.07:15
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ninHerhow is the command for for running "the cube" ?07:15
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nosrednaekimninHer: you have it installed?07:15
Chousukerjune: Thanks for the mental image. ;(07:15
ninHeryes nosrednaekim07:15
ypsilarjune: it means: Jesus Christ what a terrible thing07:15
Granthow do I unlock the package database?07:16
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ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:16
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ypsilawhat would you recommend for a dual with vista: edgy or feisty?07:17
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nosrednaekimypsila: fiesty07:18
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ypsila[nk] : this guy needs a productive system, and he has ati07:18
Chousukeit's the current stable07:22
[nk] feisty would do nicely07:22
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ypsilaChousuke: I do not need the current I need somthing that works I would even take dapper, if I can be sure it is running07:22
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Chousukeypsila: I still think Feisty is your best bet.07:22
nosrednaekimypsila: ati and productivity and linux seem to not go together07:22
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rjuneChousuke: always happy to help07:22
ypsilanosrednaekim: personally I do not like ati at all because: Always Trouble Installing07:22
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cybrhumanIs there some smart command I can use from the shell to start programs in the gui?07:24
nosrednaekimcybrhuman: the command of the program you want to run.07:24
nosrednaekimif you are in the GUI that is..07:24
ypsilacybrhuman: alt + f2 program name?07:25
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cybrhumanthanks... hehe.. thought I had tried that... thanks for the time :-)07:26
[nk] I must say... I'm a KDE fan.07:28
[nk] :(07:28
nosrednaekimno kiddin..07:28
nosrednaekimor rather ... no Kidding..07:28
[nk] hehe07:28
crimsun[nk] : that's only because you're a dillw.07:28
[nk] bahahaha07:29
[nk] crimsun07:29
[nk] you're too kind :)07:29
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cybrhumanI want to mount a ntfs partition readonly and accsessible for users, how do I do that in fstab?07:33
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shatteredskyehi there07:38
shatteredskyei'm a newbie with some graphics frusrations07:38
nosrednaekimthose are common.07:38
shatteredskyehehe so i hear07:39
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shatteredskyei have the intel integrated 945GM chipset07:39
nosrednaekimits the ones that have graphic frustations that we can't help07:39
nosrednaekimnever mind.07:39
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nosrednaekimok.. so is 3d not working or something?07:40
shatteredskyeand i can't get the native resolution on my tablet (1280X768) to work07:40
shatteredskyeit defauts to 1080X76807:40
nosrednaekimhmm... I've heard intels are the best...07:40
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nosrednaekimdid you check in the control center->display?07:41
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shatteredskyeI'm sorry i mean it defaults to 1024x76807:41
nosrednaekimyeah.. I've never done and intel. I think you need to install "915resolution" though.07:42
shatteredskyeyep - the 2 options i have are the current one and 1280x102407:42
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shatteredskyei actually tried installingthatpackage07:42
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nosrednaekimshatteredskye: did it install?07:42
shatteredskyeand it said i don't have the IO permisions to list the different modes of my resolutions07:42
shatteredskyeor something like that07:43
nosrednaekimshatteredskye: in control center?07:43
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shatteredskyehmm i followed the tutorial that came with it - let me try it again and I'll paste the console output07:43
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nosrednaekimlink me to the tutorial too.07:45
shatteredskyegimme a sec07:45
shatteredskyei'm really sluggish - just migrated a couple days ago - apologies07:45
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nosrednaekimyeah.. no problem07:46
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nosrednaekimat least you sound like you know a little bit about what you are doing..we get some people...07:46
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shatteredskyethanks, i'm trying07:46
shatteredskyeok so-07:47
shatteredskyeall i can give u is the local link that the tutorial installs itself to when u install the package07:47
nosrednaekimheh.... this ain't windows..lol07:47
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nosrednaekimah.. it installs a tutorial on the disc?07:48
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nosrednaekimbot's slow today...07:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 915resolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:49
shatteredskyeok, thank you for your help!07:49
nosrednaekimlets see what we can find//07:50
shatteredskyeno hits07:50
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shatteredskyefor 915 or 94507:50
shatteredskyeis there a way to just manually change the rez in a config file?07:51
nosrednaekimshatteredskye: Not sure...I'm checking out a gentoo tutorial07:51
shatteredskyeok, thanks07:52
nosrednaekimok... getting some stuff.. hang on.07:52
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nosrednaekimshatteredskye: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_Correct_the_Graphics_Resolution_.28Intel.2907:56
darkrift__anyone know a good way to get movies (converted) and music sync'd to an ipod07:56
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod07:56
nosrednaekimdarkrift__: gtkpod, or amarok07:56
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uboturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!07:57
darkrift__ive used rockbox07:57
darkrift__not all that great07:57
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nosrednaekimis it nice? it sounds interesting07:57
darkrift__i particularly need to convert a movie to ipod format07:57
darkrift__think any of those will do it?07:58
darkrift__ipodlinux was decent, but not ready yet07:58
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erichjthat is just mpeg408:00
erichjdoesn't avidemux do it?08:00
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darkrift__is there an app taht will show me a pie graph of a drives usage (windows drive)?08:01
darkrift__im close to ditching vista totally, but for now, i need to delete some junk and resize it so i have more space for kubuntu08:01
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MinatakuThis Ultra 1 has more wrong with it than just the bad CG608:02
nosrednaekimMinataku: its everywhere...08:02
MinatakuIt's SCSI seems bad as well08:02
Minataku"Can't clear ESP interrupts: Check SCSI Term. Power Fuse."08:02
MinatakuWhich will either indicate a bad fuse or total loss of the SCSI adaptor08:02
nosrednaekimheh I burnt a scsi once... bad ground08:03
asiakasFirs time in IRC08:03
darkrift__its just a chat program08:03
darkrift__not much to get used to08:03
nosrednaekimasiakas: hi08:03
Minatakunosrednaekim: Well, this machine was $1008:03
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asiakasootko suomalainen?08:04
nosrednaekimMinataku: ah. well thats nice08:04
MinatakuSo if it's toasted, no biggie08:04
darkrift__ok, im following the tutorial form the wiki, and it says to "sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2-dev libdvdnav-dev libdvdread-dev", but livdvdcss2-dev doesnt exist, any ideas?08:04
MinatakuI'll be dejected but not out too badly08:04
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages08:04
erichjdarkrift__: that was for you08:04
nosrednaekimdarkrift__: use the seveas repo.08:04
shatteredskyenosredaekim: TRYING TO WORK THRU THE CHIPSET THING08:05
shatteredskyesry caps08:05
shatteredskyewasn't mad, haha08:05
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Minataku!ask | asiakas08:05
ubotuasiakas: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:05
nosrednaekimshatteredskye: ok.. cool08:05
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darkrift__still didnt work08:06
MinatakuAlso, kindly make all queries in the channel08:06
shatteredskyei'm trying to figure out how to register my nick, so i don't have to spam everyone at once08:06
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Minataku!register | shatteredskye08:06
Tm_T!fi | asiakas08:06
ubotushatteredskye: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration08:06
ubotuasiakas: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi08:06
nosrednaekimshatteredskye: thats ok.. don't worry about it08:06
darkrift__/msg nickserv register password email08:06
asiakasIm from Finland and firs time in IRC08:06
nosrednaekimUbuntusta! that sounds sooo gangsta08:06
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Tm_Tasiakas: yes I notice, now, type /join #kubuntu-fi and press enter08:07
asiakastype join08:07
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asiakastype /join08:08
Tm_Tasiakas: check left side of window08:08
asiakasAnd then?08:08
Tm_Tyou did join to #kubuntu-fi so it should be there now08:09
darkrift__still cant find libdvdcss2-dev, any more ideas? lo08:09
nosrednaekimdarkrift__: dev?08:09
asiakasHow I can chek that?08:09
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nosrednaekimI didn't know there was a dev file08:09
darkrift__says its needed for ffmpeg to support dvd's08:09
darkrift__If you want DVD support, you need to do the following. If you do not want it, you must use the --disable-dvd flag for ./configure.08:10
darkrift__sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2-dev libdvdnav-dev libdvdread-dev08:10
Tm_Tasiakas: you should see it in left side of window, there's list of channels you're in08:10
asiakasi dont have windows08:10
Tm_Tasiakas: you do have window, applications are in windows, window is that box where application is appearing08:11
darkrift__/ctcp asiakas version08:11
Tm_Tdarkrift__: please don't08:11
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darkrift__please dont version someone?08:11
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash08:11
Tm_Tdarkrift__: exactly08:11
Tm_Tasiakas: tosiaan, katso ikkunan vasenta laitaa (;08:12
arrautzai should be really dumb.... cause i can't get all the plugs for swiftfox08:12
arrautzacan anyone help me08:12
asiakasmit siell pitisi nky?08:12
Tm_Tasiakas: kanavalista08:12
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darkrift__why would someone rather someone else not request a ctcp version from a third person08:12
asiakasei saakeli08:12
Tm_Tdarkrift__: why should I explain it to you?08:13
erichjfrench fries!08:13
darkrift__because you asked me not to08:13
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nosrednaekimshatteredskye: you still here?08:13
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Tm_Tdarkrift__: because, all unnecessary ctcp calls are,well, not needed08:13
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darkrift__and you are the ctcp judge?08:13
Tm_Thi tsdgeos08:13
nosrednaekimshatteredskye: figured that out yet?08:13
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darkrift__you deem it unnecessary?08:13
Tm_Tdarkrift__: yes08:13
darkrift__i c08:13
oauronoI have a question08:14
darkrift__ctcp isnt even channel related08:14
Tm_Tdarkrift__: I know08:14
darkrift__and i doubt teh opers here have a problem with ctcp08:14
nosrednaekimyep... oaurono ask away08:14
darkrift__since they arent blocked by the ircd08:14
erichjdarkrift__: ctcp away08:14
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shatteredskyethe tutorial tells me to replace one of the unneccessary resolutions with the one i want08:14
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darkrift__so teh fact that i accidentally pasted in here instead is the only reason you feel free to tell me to stop08:14
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shatteredskyebut mine's already listed08:14
nosrednaekimshatteredskye: ok.....08:14
oauronoi just got ubuntu but it says I am not the administrator...how do I change that?08:14
nosrednaekimshatteredskye: ok cool08:14
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tsdgeoshi Tm_T08:14
Tm_Twell that was wrong button =)08:14
nosrednaekimshatteredskye: now you just have to modify your xorg.08:14
shatteredskyebut it's not listed in the System Display settings08:15
Tm_Tdarkrift__: hum?08:15
asiakastiedtk The real sir Robinin?08:15
Tm_Tasiakas: english only thanks08:15
nosrednaekimoaurono: when you want to run a command, prefix it with "sudo"08:15
darkrift__you are gonna threaten me for ctcping?08:15
asiakasDo u know  The real sir Robinin?08:15
kadazI have installed flashnon free and the player isnt working08:15
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Tm_Tdarkrift__: nope08:15
darkrift__i think that is funny08:16
kadazwould someone give me some options08:16
oauronocan I change it when I'm in graphics mode?08:16
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nosrednaekimoaurono: certainly... prefix the command with "kdesu"08:16
Tm_Tdarkrift__: just pointing that "ops don't mind" doesn't hold08:16
darkrift__do you even understand the use of a ctcp version?08:16
Tm_TI do08:16
nullkuhlguys i have just installed kde and i wanna apply a theme to it i downloaded from kde-look.org , ,can any one tell me how to ?08:16
Tm_Tand I don't like it08:16
asiakasI dont08:16
nosrednaekimoaurono: are you trying to run a graphical program?08:17
nullkuhlguys i have just installed kde and i wanna apply a theme to it i downloaded from kde-look.org , ,can any one tell me how to ?08:17
darkrift__someone was asking how to do something08:17
darkrift__each client is different08:17
oauronocan I change it without using terminal?08:17
darkrift__so me finding out their client helped answer a q08:17
nosrednaekimnullkuhl: kcontrol->theme manager->install theme08:17
Tm_Tdarkrift__: yes and I was explaining it08:17
arrautzaguys & girls..wanna get my kubuntu with swiftfox and all the plugs..PLEASE... can anyone tell my  how????08:17
asiakasNow i smoke some pot;)08:17
darkrift__which makes your response completely uncalled for08:17
darkrift__op or not08:17
fdovingTm_T: ctcp isn't a problem on a user-user basis, ctcping the channels is a different matter.08:17
Tm_Tfdoving: I know, but I have personal problems08:17
oauronoI am trying to move a file and it wont let me move it08:17
darkrift__which is why i figured he wasnt sure what a client to client protocol version request was for08:17
erichjTm_T: we've noticed08:17
nosrednaekimoaurono: ah ha... ok.08:18
Tm_TI asked him to not do it, not saying "you can't!"08:18
darkrift__you said please dont08:18
asiakasI have some Big Bud pot left08:18
darkrift__tehn you opped up to look more threatening08:18
Tm_Tplease don't08:18
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darkrift__why not stay opped up?08:18
nosrednaekimoaurono: from the konsole, run "kdesu konqueror"08:18
darkrift__why op up when someone does someting you dislike?08:18
erichjshouldn't you be banning for the drug reference?08:18
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fdovingTm_T: don't apply your personal problems as channel rules.08:18
Tm_Tfdoving: I wasn't ruling08:19
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Tm_TI just asked to not do it08:19
Tm_Tthat's all08:19
Tm_Tplease don't08:19
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Tm_Thow would I even know if he does it or not?08:19
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oauronocommand konqueror not found08:20
navetscan somebody help me with my video card and opengl08:20
nosrednaekimoaurono: are you in KDE?08:20
fdovingTm_T: does what? ctcp the channel? you get a ctcp too in that case. if it wasn't annoying all people in the channel there would be no reason to react on it. ctcping individual users isn't a channel matter in my opinion.08:21
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Tm_Tfdoving: no, ctcp person08:21
nosrednaekimoaurono: and you ran "kdesu konqueror"?08:21
Tm_Tfdoving: and I wasn't saying it's channel matter, just pointed my opinion08:21
fdovingTm_T: ctcping a person isn't bad in any way. it's a feature, like ping.08:21
arrautzawhy if swiftfox if the 64 bit version of ff, ther is a 32 bit version of sf?08:22
Tm_Tfdoving: yes I know, still don't like it08:22
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oauronoyea and it said command konqueror not found08:22
gnomefreakarrautza: swiftfox is not firefox08:22
gnomefreakthey are different browsers08:22
erichjswiftfox isn't even maintained anymore08:22
arrautzabut is very the same08:22
navetsim trying to run warcraft 3 with wine but it wont work with opengl, its very buggy08:22
navetscan anyone help08:22
nosrednaekimoaurono: do you have konqueror installed?08:22
oauronoi don't know08:23
fdovingtm_t: then ignore ctcps in your irc-client. that's your choice.08:23
oauronoI just installed the os yesterday08:23
oauronoso...im kinda new08:23
arrautzaso why everyone told me that it was a better version??08:23
arrautzawich is the diference between ff and sf?08:24
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Tm_Tfdoving: humtidum, I don't think this will gain anything, so let's say I was wrong (:08:24
nosrednaekimoaurono: try just running "konqueror"08:24
nosrednaekimhey BluesKaj!08:24
BluesKajhi nosrednaekim08:24
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ArwenFirefox is just Firefox. Swiftfox is a proprietary mod to Firefox which supposedly increases performance.08:25
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nosrednaekimoaurono: did it give you any errors?08:25
fdovingTm_T: :)08:25
oauronoit wasn't installed08:25
oauronodoing it now08:25
nosrednaekimoaurono: ah..ok.08:25
nosrednaekimwhat were you using for a file manager, nautilus?08:26
arrautzaARWEN thks, wich is the meanig of propietary ??08:26
Tm_Tfdoving: btw Plasmoids are fun (;08:26
nosrednaekimthe gnome one?08:26
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kadazI unable to get flash9 working08:26
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Arwenarrautza, I don't understand your question. Speak English.08:26
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arrautzaARWEN thks, wich is the meanig of propietary ?? sorry to ask but english is not my native lenguage08:26
fdovingTm_T: haven't tested them yet, might start a KDE4 session later if this cedega-stuff doesn't work well. playing with battlefield 2 and cedega. doesn't work well yet.08:26
kadazI installed the flashnonfree plugin but it still doest work, does anyone  have any other options08:26
nullkuhlguys can any one tell me is kde or gnome better and state 5 reasons for it ?08:26
oauronogot it08:27
oauronoim using ubuntu08:27
Arwenarrautza, http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=proprietary08:27
nosrednaekimoaurono: so run "kdesu konqueror"08:27
oauronodoes that matter08:27
nullkuhl guys can any one tell me is kde or gnome better and state 5 reasons for it ?08:27
oauronogot it08:27
nosrednaekimoaurono: then you should go over to the #ubuntu channel08:27
BluesKajnullkuhl, can you say , it's a matter of taste , 5 times ?08:28
bchand what you are used to08:28
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nosrednaekimnullkuhl: kde is better, because gnomes mascot is a stinkin' foot.08:28
ActionParsniphi all08:28
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Arwennullkuhl, stop trying to start a flamewar. Thanks,08:29
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kadaznullkuhl  I got three, programs are better, less load on the system, the taskbar is great08:29
zblachhey navets08:29
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BluesKajthere are not supposed to be any dumb questions but that one nullkuhl , gets very close08:29
navetszblach: hey bud08:29
kadazespically when asked for a number of reasons.08:30
ActionParsnipdoes anyone use kiba-dock08:30
zblachnavets: still need help with WCIII?08:30
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PriceChild!best > nullkuhl (see the pm from ubotu)08:31
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kadazdoes that help your opinion nullkuhl?08:31
navetszblach: yup its starting to make me mad08:31
PriceChildBluesKaj, see !best next time... more polite :)08:31
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zblachhow far have you gotten?08:31
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navetszblach: ive sort of got things working. My main issue is I cant change the resolution weather I open warcraft regularly or with opengl, and when I open it with opengl it also gives me some werid colors on the main screen08:32
nosrednaekimjust_john: hi08:33
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zblachnavets: you have wine emulate a desktop?08:33
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BluesKajPriceChild, just getting a bit grumpy in my old age and someone "demanding 5  reasons " for using a particular app when there too many options to list takes away some of my civility08:33
PriceChildBluesKaj, don't worry :)08:34
navetszblach: uhh I think so, but im not sure what you mean...08:34
ActionParsnipDoes anyone use / have used kiba-dock ?08:34
zblachnavets: wineconfig08:34
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SanneI'd like to remove some unused default actions in konquerors right click menu (file manager mode) like "copy to" and "move to". Is this possible?08:35
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fdovingSanne: yes.08:36
nosrednaekimSanne: yeah it is08:36
nosrednaekimSanne: I saw a tutorial somwhere08:36
just_johndoes anybody know shipit.kubuntu.com?08:36
navetszblach: oh i see, no its not emulating a desktop08:37
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zblachhave it emulate a desktop08:37
zblachit'll run windowed, but you may not get the distortions08:37
navetszblach: k let me try it08:37
Sannefdoving, nosrednaekim: I'm searching some time now... any idea how? Which files to edit? Those actions are not in the servicemenus directories.08:37
fdovingSanne: hang on, i'll find it.08:38
Sannefdoving: thank you :)08:38
nosrednaekimSanne: I lost the bookmark, sorry08:38
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nosrednaekimshatteredskye: did it work?08:38
navetszblach: emulating a desktop is cool but didnt fix my problem08:38
Sannenosrednaekim: no problem, thanks anyway :)08:39
zblachyou're just having color & resolution errors?08:39
BlueDevili've forced a specfic kernel version with dpkg --set-selections, how do i get adept updater to leave me alone for this package and not tell me constantly it needs upgrading?08:39
navetszblach: yes08:39
BlueDevilit's pretty annoying08:39
nosrednaekimyeah, I'd like to know that too BlueDevil08:39
shatteredskyenosred: yes it did08:39
nosrednaekimshatteredskye: sweet.08:39
nosrednaekimshatteredskye: any other problems?08:39
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shatteredskyeI don't know why i cant' rivate msg anymore though08:39
navetszblach: and i only get the color errors in opengl08:39
just_johndoes anybody know shipit.kubuntu.com?08:39
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BlueDevili forced it for a reason; would like to see that it's upgradeable in adept, but i want adept updater to leave me alone08:40
BluesKajBlueDevil, just right click on the updater and choose quit and no restart08:40
nosrednaekimshatteredskye: you have to "/msg NICKSERV identify <password>08:40
BlueDevilBluesKaj: then it won't tell me that other packages need updating08:40
fdovingSanne: kmenu -> run command -> 'kcmshell filebrowser' -> quick copy & move08:40
shatteredskyeevery time i get into the irc?08:40
nosrednaekimshatteredskye: what client are you using?08:40
Sannefdoving: thanks, trying08:40
BluesKajBlueDevil, yup, that's the price ..but no more anmoyances08:41
BlueDevilnice tradeoff :)08:41
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: there must be another way.08:41
nosrednaekimif not thats pretty bad08:41
BluesKajyou can alwaus update manually08:41
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nosrednaekimshatteredskye: you can set it to automatically give your password whenever you connect08:42
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fdovingnosrednaekim, bluedevil, blueskaj: you can always hack /var/lib/dpkg/status manually. that would be, increase the versionnumber of your forced kernel, to have a higher version than the other available ones, you could use an epoch or something like that.08:42
shatteredskyelet me guess - pre-shell command?08:42
Sannefdoving: thanks... I didn't look in kontrol center... doh!08:42
nosrednaekimfdoving: eeewwww...08:42
nosrednaekimshatteredskye: no... inside konversation08:43
fdovingnosrednaekim: yeah, i know, it's evil.08:43
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BluesKajAAMOF I dumped the updater cuz it insisted on on trying to install apkg that was gonna break some others that i had installed08:43
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nosrednaekimfdoving: doesn't apt have a "lock package version" flag or anything?08:43
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fdovingnosrednaekim: yes, but adept notifier notifies anyway.08:44
fdovingit needs an ignore-list.08:44
navetszblach: sorry my comp froze when i tried to change resolution08:44
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Jack3anyone good with grub08:44
Sannefdoving: other actions I don't use would be Up, Back, Forward in the right click menu. Would you happen to know how I can remove them also?08:44
nosrednaekimfdoving: yeah.08:44
BluesKajthe notifier is a PITA08:45
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nosrednaekimJack3: whats the problem?08:45
fdovingSanne: not sure, try #kde (and i'd like to know too, if you find out)08:45
Jack3nosrednaekim, im trying to make a grub profile08:45
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Jack3so i go to Ubuntu kernel 2.6.20-16-lowlatency and hit e08:45
Sannefdoving: yeah, will do, thanks again :)08:45
Jack3then it shows me root, kernel, initrd, quiet and savedefault08:45
Jack3do i create a new line here called profile08:45
Jack3or do i edit kernel and add profile to the end of it08:45
nosrednaekimJack3: ok...08:46
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WebAppMonkeyI have two sound-cards... and overnight, Kubuntu seems to have switched to use the wrong one through alsa... Any suggestions for restoring the default card?08:46
nosrednaekimJack3: where is "here"? and what is a profile?08:46
crimsunWebAppMonkey: asoundconf list08:46
crimsunWebAppMonkey: what's the output?08:46
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WebAppMonkeycrimsun: Live       NVidia08:46
MurDoGGgood evening08:47
WebAppMonkeycrimsun: I want the Live08:47
crimsunWebAppMonkey: which is listed first (top-most)?08:47
MurDoGGhave problems with the knetworkmanager, he doesn't show any wireless acesss but i can connect via console08:47
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MurDoGGsomeone have a idea08:47
WebAppMonkeycrimsun: Live08:47
crimsunWebAppMonkey: then your Live is card 0.  Did you create an asoundrc?08:47
WebAppMonkeycrimsun: I did not, but I'll set that up, thanks for the command :)08:48
WebAppMonkeycrimsun: I havn't played with alsa forever08:48
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Jack3nosrednaekim, if you dont know what a profile is then i dont think you can help me, cause i dont either :p08:48
crimsunWebAppMonkey: you could use `asoundconf set-default-card Live`08:48
crimsunWebAppMonkey: then log out and back into KDE08:48
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WebAppMonkeycrimsun: Just did08:48
nosrednaekimJack3: lol08:48
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bonbonthejonMurDoGG: i have the same problem, i just wrote a script that will scan for neetworks then connect then mount my shared drives08:49
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MurDoGGbut yesterday the knetworkmanager show it to me ^^08:50
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bonbonthejonMurDoGG: it hasnt been workign for me for a few weeks, I think it has somethign to do with when i switched to ndiswrapper08:50
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BluesKajWebAppMonkey, an option for help is this page : http://alsa.opensrc.org/Main_Page08:51
caleb_OpenOffice renders fonts properly on KDE, but not GNOME... I wonder why that is.08:51
MurDoGGi don't use a ndiswrapper for my wlan adapter there is a driver availible (ipw3945)08:51
MurDoGGi have no idea why he makes such a trouble08:52
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BlueDevilwhat's the adept updater equivalent for ubuntu?08:53
ActionParsnipBlueDevil: ubuntu has adept updater08:55
BlueDevilthat's for kubuntu, right?08:55
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coreymon77BlueDevil: it makes no difference08:56
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coreymon77BlueDevil: ubuntu can use kubuntu programs and vice versa08:56
coreymon77BlueDevil: they are the same thing except one uses gnome and one uses kde08:57
coreymon77BlueDevil: the apps themselves are interchangeable08:57
ActionParsnipI have remove my power menu from my task bar08:57
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ActionParsnipcan anyone tell me how to get it back08:57
coreymon77right click08:57
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coreymon77add applet to pannel08:58
Sannefdoving: I asked in #kde and somebody checked about those default entries in the right click menu, and found it isn't possible to remove those.08:58
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ActionParsnipcoreymon77: Cheers dude08:58
ActionParsnipcoreymon77: you rock08:58
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ActionParsnipcoreymon77: do you use kiba-dock per chance08:59
coreymon77ActionParsnip: i dont use a laptop08:59
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billytwowillyanybody else having trouble getting sound out of .rm files in kaffeine?09:00
ActionParsnipcoreymon77: Its a sidebar for applications09:00
coreymon77dont use sidebars09:01
ActionParsnipcoreymon77: oh well, worth a shou09:01
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coreymon77i just put any fequently used aplications onto my regular kmenu09:01
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coreymon77billytwowilly: im having trouble getting sound period, but thats just because my sound card is fried09:02
nullkuhllol , man i hate kde..09:02
coreymon77nullkuhl: why?09:02
nullkuhlgnome is zillion x better09:02
BlueDevilcan gnome/gtk apps display an icon in the kde notification area?09:02
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nosrednaekimnullkuhl: stop flaming09:02
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billytwowillycoreymon77: that sucks.09:02
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coreymon77BlueDevil: i believe so09:03
nullkuhlnosrednaekim: i aint flamin am sayin my opinioun ..09:03
coreymon77BlueDevil: gnome and kde apps are as far as i know, completely interchangeable09:03
nosrednaekimnullkuhl: yeah.... well...09:03
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