[12:17] <a-sergevna> hello )
[12:22] <drblood> I need help
[12:23] <drblood> How do you reinstall windows when using kubuntu
[12:23] <drblood> >_>
[12:23] <drblood> anyone?
[12:26] <drblood> Somone please help? or tell me where i can get help >.>
[12:41] <frojnd> does anyone know what function in writer would change column text into text that would be in line, fited to the page and not in the column??
[01:12] <weswh-> Which newsreader would you guys recommend? I was suprised that nothing came with Feisty by default
[01:13] <weswh-> good binary support is a must, something that will display images in messages, the more GUI the better
[01:14] <HaSH> pan
[01:14] <HaSH> !pan
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <HaSH> !pan2
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pan2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <HaSH> hmm
[01:14] <HaSH> http://pan.rebelbase.com/
[01:15] <carutsu> hello, I'm having some problems I installed the codecs but i still can see some MPG or some AVI videos not even with VLC
[01:16] <weswh-> HaSH: wow, mature version number :) Working well for you though?
[01:16] <carutsu> I installed restricted extras package but i still can't play them
[01:16] <HaSH> weswh-, yea im not currently use a *ubuntu based distro. but it works realy good for what i needed...
[01:17] <HaSH> im not a huge usenet user
[01:17] <HaSH> seemed stable everything worked like it should.
[01:17] <HaSH> never crashed.
[01:17] <HaSH> surprised its not on the the bot here
[01:18] <HaSH> !news
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <HaSH> !usenet
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usenet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <evsophomore2009> hey everyone, my Adept install is Hung
[01:19] <evsophomore2009> i need the code thing to stop the insta;;
[01:19] <HaSH> the code is 123
[01:19] <HaSH> j/k
[01:19] <HaSH> why do you want to stop a install?
[01:19] <weswh-> HaSH: thank you
[01:19] <HaSH> weswh-, np :-)
[01:19] <evsophomore2009> Hash: because it stopped mat 30% like it always does
[01:19] <evsophomore2009> it wont move
[01:19] <evsophomore2009> its been on for 6 hours
[01:19] <HaSH> oh ok
[01:20] <HaSH> ctrl + c
[01:20] <HaSH> your connection time out?
[01:20] <evsophomore2009> no, it just wont move
[01:20] <evsophomore2009> and i got out of the install
[01:20] <evsophomore2009> so now i cant open Adept
[01:20] <HaSH> of its been a while
[01:20] <HaSH> but
[01:20] <HaSH> i do belive apt-get -f install
[01:20] <HaSH> with fix it
[01:21] <HaSH> or apt-get install -f
[01:21] <HaSH> i am running off memory...and its been many bonghits seince ive used any apt based distro
[01:21] <HaSH> also check your sources
[01:21] <Guilty_as_Sin> can anyone help me make k3b capable of burning audio cd's?
[01:22] <Guilty_as_Sin> I just switched from gnome and I have always used the default app in gnome
[01:22] <evsophomore2009> nope didnt work
[01:22] <HaSH> make sure there all there and the right version. also might wanna try to add you country code to the hostname ....is us.* or eu.*
[01:22] <carutsu> hello?
[01:22] <Guilty_as_Sin> serpentine I think
[01:22] <carutsu> should i instal w32 codecs?
[01:22] <HaSH> ok sorry evsophomore2009 ......im not sure. maby someone else here knows
[01:22] <Guilty_as_Sin> anyways, any help is greatly appreciated
[01:22] <HaSH> Guilty_as_Sin, its very easy
[01:23] <HaSH> carutsu, yes
[01:23] <Guilty_as_Sin> figured it was
[01:23] <HaSH> Guilty_as_Sin, what exaclty is your prob?
[01:23] <HaSH> Guilty_as_Sin, open k3b. select new audio cd
[01:23] <carutsu> HaSH: i though it was done with the "restricted" package
[01:23] <carutsu> HaSH: I'll give a shot
[01:23] <Guilty_as_Sin> let this file copy and I can tell you.. 1sec
[01:23] <HaSH> !restricted | carutsu
[01:23] <ubotu> carutsu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:24] <HaSH> Guilty_as_Sin, if its long pastebin it
[01:24] <HaSH> !paste | Guilty_as_Sin
[01:24] <ubotu> Guilty_as_Sin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:24] <Guilty_as_Sin> nah' it won't be
[01:24] <HaSH> ah ok
[01:24] <HaSH> i do love ubotu ...
[01:24] <HaSH> very helpfull bot
[01:25] <Guilty_as_Sin> ,,just need the mp3 audio decoder
[01:26] <Guilty_as_Sin> sorry for the wait.. had a 3gig transfer in process..  took a sec
[01:26] <HaSH> ah Guilty_as_Sin follow the link i sent to carutsu
[01:26] <Guilty_as_Sin> k
[01:26] <Guilty_as_Sin> thanks
[01:26] <HaSH> np man :-)
[01:27] <wsjunior> is anybody here using avant-window-navigator?
[01:27] <Guilty_as_Sin> I've already done most all this
[01:27] <HaSH> Guilty_as_Sin, well just follow it step by step.
[01:27] <HaSH> mabyy you missed somthing
[01:28] <Guilty_as_Sin> after install I pretty much went right down the wiki..  I have all the codecs to play just about all file types.. just can't get that message to go away in k3b is all
[01:29] <Guilty_as_Sin> must be
[01:29] <carutsu> Guilty_as_Sin:
[01:29] <carutsu> Guilty_as_Sin: what message>
[01:29] <carutsu> ?
[01:30] <carutsu> Guilty_as_Sin: ??
[01:30] <Guilty_as_Sin> mp3 audio decoder not found
[01:30] <carutsu> Guilty_as_Sin: i had a message in k3b that it couldn't record MP3, you can look for the needed package i dont remember the name now, but just type in Adept k3b- it'll bring it for you
[01:30] <carutsu> it's easy
[01:31] <carutsu> you'll se it :D
[01:31] <carutsu> Guilty_as_Sin: let me know when you solved it
[01:32] <Guilty_as_Sin> bad command or file name
[01:32] <carutsu> sorry?
[01:32] <Guilty_as_Sin> command not found I mean
[01:32] <carutsu> no
[01:32] <carutsu> is not a command
[01:32] <Guilty_as_Sin> oic
[01:32] <Guilty_as_Sin> oops
[01:32] <carutsu> go to adept
[01:32] <carutsu> K menu > System > Adept
[01:33] <Guilty_as_Sin> oh' so adept is like synaptic
[01:33] <carutsu> exactly the same
[01:33] <carutsu> only for KDE (Qt based)
[01:33] <Guilty_as_Sin> killer..  that was the only thing I was missing from gnome
[01:33] <BluesKaj> in the K-Menu/system/Adept
[01:33] <Guilty_as_Sin> how did I miss that?
[01:34] <carutsu> BluesKaj: that's what i said :-}
[01:34] <BluesKaj> actually Guilty_as_Sin most of us prefer synaptic to adept :)
[01:34] <carutsu> i dont
[01:34] <Guilty_as_Sin> I use to brag about gnome alot but I'm getting the feeling that kde is where it's at for me.. just take me a week or two to get broken in
[01:34] <carutsu> In 6.10 was a lot better (synaptic)
[01:35] <carutsu> but i think it's the same now :D
[01:35] <BluesKaj> i said most of us, not all
[01:35] <carutsu> just speaking my mind :D
[01:35] <BluesKaj> synaptic can fix broken pkges
[01:35] <carutsu> i had no idea
[01:36] <carutsu> i still can't play the !@@#$@#$!#!@#!@$!@# MPEG video
[01:36] <carutsu> ironically is a KDE video, why don't they just use Theora?
[01:36] <BluesKaj> look for libdvdcss2 and ffmpeg in synaptic
[01:37] <Guilty_as_Sin> everything that it fetches is installed..  oh well not a big deal anyway..  I'm just setting this up for a friend and I wanted to make it as simplified as possible
[01:37] <tominglis> hi, is it possible to install the latest alsa (1.0.14a) in kubuntu feisty? if so, does anyone know a good guide for this, or is this something that will be backported soon?
[01:37] <carutsu> Guilty_as_Sin: didnt you find it?
[01:37] <Guilty_as_Sin> guess the "don't fix it if it aint broke" rule applies here
[01:37] <BluesKaj> !libdvdcss2
[01:37] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:37] <carutsu> Guilty_as_Sin: ?
[01:37] <Guilty_as_Sin> oh wait.. had a typo in my search.. no wonder..
[01:38] <Guilty_as_Sin> I won't need the dev files, correct?
[01:38] <carutsu> Guilty_as_Sin: the package is called libk3b2-mp3
[01:38] <carutsu> Guilty_as_Sin: no, just for debuging
[01:39] <Guilty_as_Sin> thanks for the help..
[01:39] <carutsu> Guilty_as_Sin: let me know what happened after you installed it
[01:39] <Guilty_as_Sin> you probably just saved me a ton of trouble introducing me to adept..  I'm sure that will make his transition from windows alot easier
[01:40] <Guilty_as_Sin> on my pc I've just used command for all my installs
[01:40] <carutsu> :D i hope it's not that hard you know after you get it
[01:40] <carutsu> if i know what to install i do, but when im loking for packages i use adept
[01:41] <Guilty_as_Sin> yeah that was me in gnome..  use synaptic to find new stuff
[01:41] <carutsu> easier than apt-cache search
[01:41] <Guilty_as_Sin> use command to install my regular stuff
[01:42] <tominglis> hi, is it possible to install the latest alsa (1.0.14a) in kubuntu feisty? if so, does anyone know a good guide for this, or is this something that will be backported soon?
[01:42] <Guilty_as_Sin> I think my hardware prefers kde..  more so than even I do
[01:42] <Guilty_as_Sin> love the change
[01:42] <carutsu> tominglis, i'm afraid i dont know, this /might/ be useful
[01:42] <carutsu> !alsa | tominglis
[01:42] <ubotu> tominglis: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:43] <Guilty_as_Sin> anywho..  gotta get this lasagne out and chomp down on some deliciousness..  you all have a great day
[01:43] <tominglis> my new sound card, the creative audigy 2 zs notebook does not have input / microphone support in feisty
[01:44] <carutsu> same
[01:44] <tominglis> this was included in 1.0.14
[01:44] <carutsu> i would suggest that you first check alsamixer
[01:44] <carutsu> oh
[01:44] <tominglis> and i was wondering how i could upgrade to this version from 1.0.13 that comes with feisty
[01:44] <crimsun> tominglis: so compile alsa-driver 1.0.14 (and _only_ alsa-driver) yourself.
[01:44] <crimsun> tominglis: you'll need build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed
[01:45] <carutsu> how came a sound card is not supported i though sound hadn't changed in 20 years or something
[01:45] <carutsu> *thought
[01:45] <tominglis> what's $(uname -r)?
[01:45] <fisnik> can anybody help me solve this problem: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[01:45] <carutsu> uname tells you the kernel version
[01:46] <tominglis> carutsu: new sound cards / chips are always coming out, especially with azalia and xfi knocking aboot
[01:46] <tominglis> ok
[01:46] <tominglis> so if i have those things, what command do i need to build alsa?
[01:46] <carutsu> fisnik: have a lok in #mysql
[01:46] <fisnik> carutsu: how do I?
[01:46] <carutsu> click the bluish word and it'll take you to the channel
[01:47] <fisnik> carutsu: Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[01:47] <carutsu> not a clue, crimsun
[01:47] <carutsu> err
[01:47] <carutsu> you must've done something wrong
[01:47] <carutsu> its a channel not a user
[01:48] <crimsun> tominglis: well, you need to download the 1.0.14 tarball, extract it, then ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[01:48] <fisnik> I dont understand, I just cliked your nick which appear blueish
[01:48] <carutsu> fisnik: no, click this: #mysql
[01:48] <fisnik> ah sorry...
[01:48] <crimsun> tominglis: after that: make&& sudo make install-modules
[01:48] <carutsu> if you click my nick it'll try to open a chat session with me
[01:49] <tominglis> crimsun: i have installed build-essential, and linux-headers-2.6.20-16 and linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic are already installed
[01:49] <fisnik> carutsu: I"m now in #mysql
[01:49] <carutsu> so ask
[01:49] <crimsun> tominglis: good, now download the 1.0.14 tarball and follow the instructions I've given you.
[01:50] <fisnik> :D
[01:50] <fisnik> newbie
[01:50] <tominglis> crimsun: which of the downloads do i need? there are tarballs for driver library lib-plugins utilities tools firmware pyalsa oss compatibility
[01:51] <crimsun> 19:44 < crimsun> tominglis: so compile alsa-driver 1.0.14 (and _only_ alsa-driver) yourself.
[01:53] <tominglis> crimsun: ok i have downloaded the driver package? does it not matter that i don't have the others? will it work with 1.0.14 driver and 1.0.13 other things?
[01:54] <crimsun> no, it doesn't matter. Yes, it will work.
[01:56] <tominglis> crimsun: sorry to be silly, but i havene done this before: is './configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build' a command?
[01:56] <tominglis> do i need to point it at my alsa-driver directory?
[01:58] <carutsu> damn it
[01:58] <carutsu> sorry sorry
[01:58] <carutsu> !language|carutsu
[01:58] <carutsu> i still can't play MPEG files
[01:59] <tominglis> carutsu: why not?
[01:59] <carutsu> tominglis: don't kknow
[01:59] <carutsu> tominglis: kaffeine just shows a blue screen, VLC just crashes
[02:00] <tominglis> carutsu: do you have libxine-extracodecs gstreamer-plugins-ffmpeg ?
[02:00] <carutsu> as far as i know i do, let me double-check
[02:01] <carutsu> it says gstreamer-plugins-ffmpeg cannot be found
[02:01] <tominglis> crimsun: hey dude, could you just confirm with me about the ./configure command? do i need to run that from within the downloaded driver directory?
[02:01] <tominglis> carutsu: let me look on adept
[02:01] <carutsu> tominglis: thank you
[02:01] <carutsu> tominglis: i even installed w32 codecs
[02:02] <tetrimino> is anyone of you familiar to a game called True Combat: Elite?
[02:02] <tominglis> gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[02:02] <shpetim> can anybody give me a better source.list
[02:02] <carutsu> tominglis: jus t a question, gstreamer? i use Xine
[02:03] <carutsu> tominglis: well kubuntu uses Xine, doesn't it
[02:03] <carutsu> ?
[02:03] <tominglis> you can use either with kaffeine amarok etc
[02:04] <tominglis> which is why i suggested you get both if you didne have them
[02:04] <tominglis> i think vlc should support it though? that uses ffmpeg
[02:04] <carutsu> no, just Xine
[02:04] <carutsu> yes it's _very_ weird 'couse VLC has built in codecs
[02:06] <tominglis> where is the mpeg file?
[02:06] <tominglis> is it mpeg 2?
[02:07] <tominglis> crimsun: ah i see the config script is in the folder - doh! i shall try that now thanks dude
[02:07] <carutsu> tominglis: no luck
[02:07] <carutsu> tominglis: must i restart X?
[02:08] <carutsu> mm sounded window-ish
[02:08] <tominglis> carutsu: you have libxine-extracodecs?
[02:09] <tominglis> carutsu: what is the mpeg file you are trying to run?
[02:09] <carutsu> tominglis: yes
[02:10] <carutsu> tominglis: an MPEG player about KList, and also an AVI
[02:11] <BluesKaj> !ffmpeg
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <tominglis> try restarting :)
[02:11] <zerozero> I am trying to mount a remote drive and  I am getting an error. Here is a link to my problem: http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=234
[02:11] <carutsu> tominglis: VLC crash because a badAlloc()
[02:11] <carutsu> weird!
[02:11] <carutsu> well let me kill X
[02:12] <Darkkish> !ntfs-3g
[02:12] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:12] <Darkkish> !fuse
[02:12] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:12] <Darkkish> so is 3g safer than fuse?
[02:13] <BluesKaj> !meditbuntu
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about meditbuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <coreymon77> i wouldnt do it
[02:13] <coreymon77> ntfs writing is was too dangeroux
[02:13] <coreymon77> s*
[02:14] <tominglis> crimsun: groovy, it seems to be installing now, should i restart when it is done? also, will i need to redo this every time the kernel is updated?
[02:16] <stratos> I set up twinview mode in xorg with my dual monitors but my main and secondary monitors are flip flopped, how to i swap them to normal
[02:16] <carutsu> weird VLC dies for insuficient resources "insufficient resources for operation" impossible i have 2GB
[02:16] <carutsu> of RAM
[02:17] <tominglis> did you restart the computer or just x?
[02:17] <carutsu> just X
[02:17] <BluesKaj> perhaps it means codecs
[02:17] <carutsu> BluesKaj: eh?
[02:18] <tominglis> restart the machine dude, you shouldn't be getting insufficient resources on vlc, especially if it has worked before?
[02:18] <BluesKaj> resources could mean dependent apps
[02:18] <carutsu> no is a BadAlloc "X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)"
[02:19] <carutsu> ill restart the computer
[02:19] <tominglis> :)
[02:19] <stratos> I set up twinview mode in xorg with my dual monitors but my main and secondary monitors are flip flopped, how to i swap them to normal
[02:20] <tominglis> stratos: i don't know, but have you done this in xorg.conf?
[02:20] <stratos> yes sir
[02:20] <tominglis> stratos: if so, presumably the screens have different numbers?
[02:20] <tominglis> stratos: have you tried swapping them round?
[02:20] <stratos> i only defined one screen section in xorg
[02:20] <tominglis> stratos: also, do you just have the one graphics card or do you have sli?
[02:20] <stratos> tom: yes i did swap the ports
[02:21] <stratos> tom: one grafx card
[02:21] <Rictoo_> gfx*
[02:21] <tominglis> stratos: which one?
[02:21] <stratos> you don't correct me rictoo
[02:21] <stratos> 6800gt
[02:21] <Rictoo_> He's using a pirated card
[02:21] <tominglis> stratos: can you pastebin me the relevant section of xorg.conf?
[02:22] <tominglis> stratos: i don't promise to know what's wrong, but i'll take a look :)
[02:22] <tominglis> Rictoo_: how do you pirate a graphics card?
[02:22] <Rictoo_> i was kidding :D
[02:22] <tominglis> Rictoo_: :)
[02:23] <tominglis> how many Microsoft employees does it take to pirate a graphics card?
[02:23] <Rictoo_> oman 0 cuz dey suck
[02:23] <Rictoo_> =\
[02:23] <stratos> URL: http://rafb.net/p/UZmeKO25.html to tom
[02:23] <zerozero> they don't "pirate", they just refefine "legal"
[02:24] <BluesKaj> pirate as instolen perhaps :)
[02:24] <fisnik> can somebody tell me on how to do streaming
[02:24] <carutsu> finally
[02:24] <carutsu> :D:D
[02:25] <fisnik> I'm trying to open a link from shoutcast but it wont work
[02:25] <kadaz> past it here and Ill test it
[02:25] <Rictoo_> tominglis: He gave you the link (just telling since he didn't highlight)
[02:25] <Rictoo_> =/
[02:25] <Tallmaris> good evening everyone
[02:26] <carutsu> VLC still crashes, doesnt metter, Kaffeine is enough for me
[02:26] <Tallmaris> I can't launch startx on kubuntu... has anyone any idea?
[02:26] <kadaz> use recovery mode on boot up and login as root
[02:26] <tominglis> stratos: i am having a look
[02:26] <fisnik> I'm truing to tune in  from shoutcast, but can't do it with the available programs under multimedia
[02:26] <coreymon77> i dont think you want to use startx
[02:26] <tominglis> carutsu: Kaffeine is enough for any man! :)
[02:27] <Tallmaris> I don't have root login enabled
[02:27] <coreymon77> doesnt kdm work
[02:27] <fisnik> anybody knows how to?
[02:27] <kadaz> if you use recovery it automatticaly does it.
[02:27] <carutsu> tominglis: xD
[02:27] <Tallmaris> but i don't know the password
[02:27] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: its your password
[02:27] <Tallmaris> and it did not solve the problem
[02:27] <kadaz> its the same as your user password
[02:27] <Tallmaris> no, it is not
[02:27] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: the root password is your user password
[02:27] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: but try using kdm first
[02:27] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: yes it is
[02:27] <Tallmaris> kdm?
[02:28] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: unless you changed it
[02:28] <Neolinux> Hi !
[02:28] <Tallmaris> mmm, I'll give it a second try
[02:28] <Tallmaris> anyway
[02:28] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: and also, dont use su
[02:28] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: use sudo
[02:28] <BluesKaj> fisnik, are you trying to listen to broadcast streams or serve them onto the internet ?
[02:28] <Tallmaris> I use sudo always :)
[02:28] <stratos> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.06/README/appendix-b.html
[02:28] <masta_> hi
[02:28] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: well then unless you for some reason changed it, your root password is your user password
[02:29] <kadaz> Tallmaris, are you booted into kde???
[02:29] <TR> hey i have a problem
[02:29] <Tallmaris> coreymon77: tha strange problem is that I get to the graphical login of kubuntu, but after i enter the pwd the screen goes blank and the login appears again
[02:29] <tominglis> stratos: so it works at the moment
[02:29] <Tallmaris> No, I'm not into kde... i'm using winXP now... :(
[02:29] <tominglis> stratos: but wrong way round?
[02:29] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: oh, ya i had that problem
[02:30] <Tallmaris> coreymon77: how did you solve it?
[02:30] <stratos> tominglis: yes sir
[02:30] <TR> my taskbar doesn't show up AT ALL
[02:30] <TR> what can i do to fix it?
[02:30] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: trying to remember
[02:30] <kadaz> ok.. tallmaris, save yourself time and login using recovery, and type cp xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf
[02:30] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: well, really trying to fin the postit note that i wrote the solution on
[02:31] <coreymon77> :P
[02:31] <Tallmaris> coreymon77: lol... :)
[02:31] <TR> where do i fix the task manager?
[02:31] <tominglis> stratos: have you tried sticking RightOf in TwinViewOrientation?
[02:31] <TR> taskbar*
[02:32] <kadaz> TR whats wrong with it.
[02:32] <fisnik> blueskay: just listening
[02:32] <coreymon77> TR: try running kicker in a terminal
[02:32] <Tallmaris> I'll go and try the recovery mode again... don't go away, I'll be back soon :)
[02:32] <stratos> tominglis: yes already did all of that mess
[02:32] <BluesKaj> fisnik, using amarok ?
[02:33] <fisnik> amarok wont work, needs some decodex or similiar
[02:33] <fisnik> :(
[02:33] <TR> fixed
[02:33] <TR> it wasn't showing up at all
[02:33] <tominglis> stratos: what monitors do you have?
[02:33] <Darkkish> vitamin in #winehq is an asshole
[02:34] <Darkkish> I pasted 3 lines and he FLIPPED OUT IN ALL CAPS
[02:34] <Darkkish> they were short lines too
[02:34] <fisnik> BluesKay: amarok wont work, do you know anything similiar to winamp?
[02:34] <kadaz> xmms
[02:35] <kadaz> fisnick xmms
[02:35] <BluesKaj> fisnik, amarok-engines and amarok-xine
[02:35] <draik> What is the equivalence of KATAPULT in GNOME?
[02:35] <stratos> tominglis: i have an lcd and a crt, i want my lcd to be my main
[02:36] <BluesKaj> fisnik, install those and you'll be ok
[02:36] <Rictoo_> He has an LCD and a CRT connected with a VGA>DVI converter to his vcard
[02:36] <Rictoo_> tominglis: ^
[02:36] <fisnik> blueskay: do I have to install both of them? I dont need to output, just to listen
[02:36] <carutsu> Darkkish: yes i know what you mean
[02:36] <carutsu> but
[02:36] <BluesKaj> yeah for listening
[02:36] <carutsu> !language | Darkkish
[02:36] <ubotu> Darkkish: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:36] <Darkkish> sorry about that
[02:36] <BluesKaj> btw fisnik the name is BluesKaj
[02:37] <fisnik> BluesKaj: :D sorry
[02:37] <fisnik> BluesKay: do I have to install both of them? I dont need to output, just to listen
[02:37] <fisnik> BluesKaj:* do I have to install both of them? I dont need to output, just to listen
[02:38] <kadaz> sorry fisnik, maybe xmms is only for gnome
[02:38] <fisnik> kadez: I use kubuntu
[02:38] <tominglis> stratos: have you seen this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271993
[02:38] <david_> howdy
[02:38] <david_> does anyone know how to switch sound cards?
[02:38] <BluesKaj> fisnik,yes for listening
[02:39] <kadaz> yes david_ with a screwdriver
[02:39] <TyphoidHippo> haha
[02:39] <david_> oh of course why didn't i think of that
[02:39] <david_> but... hypotehtically, let's say i had 2
[02:39] <tominglis> stratos: hmmm vga - dvi, as in the graphics card thinks it is sending dvi?
[02:39] <tominglis> stratos: to the crt?
[02:39] <kadaz> sound system
[02:39] <Rictoo_> tominglis: He left, but yes
[02:39] <Rictoo_> I'm helping him on the phone
[02:40] <kadaz> hardware, and in there you have an option to change card
[02:40] <Tallmaris> back... the cp xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf did not work kadaz
[02:40] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: hi, i cant seem to find the postit, but ill look again
[02:40] <kadaz> were you in the folder
[02:40] <kadaz> etc/X11
[02:40] <Tallmaris> yes kadaz.. and I sudo the command :)
[02:40] <david_> kadaz: where is that option? select audio device just lets me select alsa, oss etc
[02:40] <kadaz> ok try .2  or .3
[02:40] <Darkkish> how do i create a new file however i want?
[02:41] <Darkkish> for example if i wanted to make a .reg file
[02:41] <Tallmaris> mmm, sure? after the cp should I reboot or try startx directly?
[02:41] <kadaz> if you boot into root
[02:41] <chuck> I goofed something up in iptables trying to get ipmasquerading to work.... Every time I boot, i have no internet access until i run iptables -F, iptables -X, and iptables -P input/output/forward accept in. changes are blown away on reboot.
[02:41] <kadaz> you can startx in root
[02:41] <kadaz> and  edit the file from there
[02:41] <chuck> anyone know if i can edit a conf file to fix this?
[02:41] <Tallmaris> I can't log as root...
[02:41] <kadaz> in recovery you do already
[02:42] <fisnik> BluesKay: after installing:
[02:42] <fisnik> No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported.
[02:42] <fisnik> http://64.236.34.97:80/stream/1065
[02:42] <kadaz> david_
[02:42] <Tallmaris> the recovery asks me for root password, I write my user pwd and it says "incorrect"
[02:42] <Tallmaris> so I press control-D and it goes on
[02:42] <Markeda> Does Kubuntu 7.04 come with any ISO burning software preinstalled? I'm looking around and don't see any, but I want to be certain...
[02:42] <kadaz> root does create a random pw
[02:43] <david_> hi
[02:43] <kadaz> uhm
[02:43] <chuck> Markeda: yes. k3b will burn an iso to a dvd or cd
[02:43] <BlueDevil> Markeda: k3b
[02:43] <Markeda> Ah, it does. Thank you!
[02:43] <kadaz> david_ all I see is a selectio to change midi device
[02:43] <chuck> !info mencoder
[02:43] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu9.1 (feisty), package size 3474 kB, installed size 8736 kB
[02:44] <chuck> bah    i'm still on edgy. doesn't help
[02:44] <david_> kadaz, yea, no option to select hardware
[02:44] <david_> ni gnome and windows theres an easy way
[02:44] <david_> hell, in windows most programs let you select the device within
[02:44] <Markeda> I suppose, had I started, k3b, the big "Burn DVD ISO Image..." button would have tipped me off... *apologizes*
[02:44] <kadaz> david_ why not just take one sound card out?
[02:44] <BluesKaj> not all formats on internet radio are supported fisnik ...some broadcast in aac and ogg , so you need the plugins
[02:45] <david_> kadaz: because sometimes I use both at once
[02:45] <david_> kadaz: but yes, that would work
[02:45] <tominglis> Rictoo_: i don't think you need all that modeline stuff in there
[02:45] <kadaz> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=499520
[02:45] <kadaz> read that.
[02:46] <tominglis> Rictoo_: also the screen section - identifier should be Default Screen
[02:46] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: can you still not log in with recovery mode?
[02:46] <kadaz> david_ sudo asoundconf set-default-card "cardname"
[02:46] <Tallmaris> coreymon77: yes... it asks root pwd, I insert mine and it goes on
[02:47] <Tallmaris> at the graphical login it gives me the same problem, I login and the screen goes blank and then again at the login
[02:47] <fisnik> BluesKay: I found the solution, streamtuner will work ;)
[02:47] <tominglis> Rictoo_: this is quite neat: http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html, but make sure that the second monitor settings are appropriate for the crt
[02:47] <Tallmaris> from the console login I can log, but I dunno what to do, since startx does not start
[02:47] <Tallmaris> (errors with fonts maybe, but I'm clueless)
[02:47] <chuck> !multiverse
[02:47] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:47] <tominglis> Rictoo_: anyhoo, good luck!
[02:47] <Rictoo_> 94413 < tominglis> Rictoo_: also the screen section - identifier should be Default Screen
[02:48] <Rictoo_> Does that really matter?
[02:48] <david_> kadaz: thanks!
[02:48] <Darkkish> okay so when i start steam, and it's installing
[02:48] <Darkkish> updates,
[02:48] <BluesKaj> and another thing fisnik , you must have patience in order for the codecs that are required by the stream to load, quite often afetr you get the demux  error if you click play again it will work
[02:48] <Darkkish> at abou 28% it says only one instance of steam can be open at a time
[02:48] <Darkkish> the odd thing is, i checked, and it is the only instance of steam running.
[02:49] <tominglis> Rictoo_: oh, not in your case since you have also renamed the screen in server layout
[02:49] <kadaz> tallmaris, try the cp over the conf's
[02:50] <Darkkish> oh wrong window
[02:50] <Tallmaris> kadaz: I'll try, I wa just waiting to see if coreymon77 has some ideas, so I can try withou relogging here :)
[02:50] <kadaz> I had to do it twice before the 2nd worked.
[02:50] <kadaz> ok
[02:51] <soulrider_> Tallmaris: try to reconfigure X
[02:51] <Tallmaris> soulrider_: how?
[02:51] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: ya, thats my suggestion
[02:51] <kadaz> how about XFdrake?"
[02:51] <kadaz> :D
[02:51] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: i think that is what i did
[02:51] <soulrider_> !xorg
[02:51] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:51] <Sayers> !offtopic
[02:51] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:52] <coreymon77> kadaz: this happened to me before and i wrote the fix on a postit note, i just cant find it right now
[02:52] <kadaz> ok
[02:54] <BluesKaj> reconfig X kadaz  ?  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:54] <Tallmaris> mmm, in the help it says to write this, along other stuff... sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum'
[02:54] <Tallmaris> what does that do?
[02:54] <coreymon77> kadaz: heres what to do
[02:54] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: hers what to do
[02:54] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: boot up normally
[02:54] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: when you get to the kde login screen
[02:54] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: hit control+alt+f1
[02:55] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: to loaqd up a console login
[02:55] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: login as your normal user
[02:55] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: and then type this
[02:55] <coreymon77>  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[02:55] <evsophomore2009> is anyone here Familar with Frostwire?
[02:56] <Tallmaris> mmm.. and then?
[02:56] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: then
[02:56] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: as kadaz said, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:57] <evsophomore2009> Coreymon: are you familar with Frostwire?
[02:57] <coreymon77> once that is done
[02:57] <coreymon77> do this
[02:57] <chuck> anyone here pretty good with iptables?
[02:57] <coreymon77>  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[02:57] <BluesKaj> !frostwire
[02:57] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[02:57] <chuck> ooooooo
[02:57] <coreymon77> Tallmaris: either that or just sudo kdm
[02:57] <Tallmaris> well... time to give it a try :)
[02:58] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: i need help with it
[02:58] <Tallmaris> thank you, I'll be back in a while :)
[02:58] <BluesKaj> help evsophomore2009 ..how?
[02:58] <evsophomore2009> well for some reason, on Frostwire, it wont play my songs
[02:59] <rodrigo_> ok
[02:59] <evsophomore2009> when i download em, it wont play unless it save it and send it to Amarok
[02:59] <evsophomore2009> and thats REALLY annoyin
[02:59] <kadaz> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?? how many times I tried that in unbuntu and it wouldnt get my display back.
[02:59] <evsophomore2009> Kadaz: I had the same problem
[02:59] <evsophomore2009> Kadaz: i had to re-install Kubuntu Edgy 6.10
[02:59] <rodrigo_> wich is a good web for asking to create drivers?
[02:59] <BluesKaj> sorry evsophomore2009 ...no idea ...amarok is better anyway
[03:00] <rodrigo_> that doesn't exist for kubuntu?
[03:00] <evsophomore2009> well you cant download songs on Amarok
[03:00] <coreymon77> kadaz: i gace tallmaris my suggestion from what i remember
[03:00] <BluesKaj> life is tough :)
[03:00] <coreymon77> kadaz: but i remember having to rm something aswell
[03:00] <kadaz> great, lets hope it works
[03:00] <rodrigo_> I can't use a graphic tablet that has a great price, and also my lexmark doesn't work
[03:00] <coreymon77> kadaz: i just dont know what
[03:01] <rodrigo_> it looks every thing is against the independent digital artist!
[03:02] <kadaz> evsophomore2009 I dont use frostfire so I am unable to offer help.
[03:02] <ardchoille> coreymon77: Did it have to do with the ~/.Xauthority or ~/.ICEauthority files? If those files are owned by root (can happen if you use sudo with gui apps) it can prevent you from logging in
[03:03] <coreymon77> ardchoille: i dont know
[03:03] <erichj> man kde is so awesome, no idea why i used gnome for so many years
[03:03] <coreymon77> ardchoille: if only i could remember what i did to fix it
[03:04] <ardchoille> coreymon77: See who ows those files:  ls -la .{ICE,X}authority
[03:04] <evsophomore2009> all: is anyone here Familiar with Frostwire?
[03:05] <coreymon77> ardchoille: its not my problem
[03:05] <coreymon77> ardchoille: im helping someone else
[03:05] <ardchoille> Ok
[03:06] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, check your playback settings in frostwire , if it's not your default player then the songs will autmatically open your default player which is obviously amarok
[03:07] <ardchoille> erichj: I know exactly how you feel
[03:07] <coreymon77> kadaz: if tallmaris comes back, tell him ill brb
[03:09] <evsophomore2009> does anyone know the code to stop any installs with Adept?
[03:09] <evsophomore2009> my install is hung and wont move
[03:09] <evsophomore2009> and now i cant open Adept without stopping the other installation
[03:10] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:10] <ardchoille> !fixadept
[03:10] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:10] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: Dang, do you have that memorised?
[03:10] <Darkkish> does anyone know if uninstalling wine will leave my ~/.wine folder intact
[03:10] <klobster> how do I disable ctrl-alt-del?
[03:10] <BluesKaj> nope , handy desktop reference text file
[03:11] <Darkkish> and don't tell me to check in #winehq
[03:11] <ardchoille> Darkkish: Uninstalling wine shouldn't affect it, since it's in your $HOME
[03:12] <hitmanWilly> Darkkish, check in #wine :P
[03:12] <peanutb> how do i start back up the KDE menu bars? It seems to have crashed, and i dont want to loose open windows
[03:12] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, common probs ... one needs to just copy and paste
[03:12] <Rictoo_> what's the fall back driver in xorg.conf?
[03:12] <klobster> Darkkish: cp ~/.wine .backupwine, then try it and see
[03:12] <evsophomore2009> Setting up noatun (3.5.5-0ubuntu1) ...
[03:12] <evsophomore2009> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:12] <evsophomore2009>  x11-common
[03:12] <BluesKaj> vesa, Rictoo_
[03:13] <evsophomore2009> BLueskaj: did you get those 3 IM's about what it said?
[03:13] <ardchoille> peanutb: Try: dcop kicker default restart
[03:13] <ardchoille> klobster: He-s gonna need "-r" with that
[03:13] <BluesKaj> ok, evsophomore2009 , dpkg --configure -a
[03:14] <peanutb> just a simply kicker did the job thanks
[03:14] <BluesKaj> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:14] <santiago> hay alguien que hable bien espaol?
[03:14] <klobster> ardchoille: I/he would prolly just grag and drop, but...
[03:14] <ardchoille> !es | santiago
[03:14] <ubotu> santiago: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:15] <ardchoille> klobster: True
[03:16] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: its the same thing
[03:16] <kadaz> has he came back??
[03:17] <kadaz> oh
[03:17] <kadaz> evesophomore
[03:18] <BluesKaj> evsophomore2009, , close adept .. ?
[03:18] <kadaz>  If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:20] <kadaz> coreymon77 its been a while...
[03:21] <gellioth> #espaciolinux
[03:22] <evsophomore2009> Nope still didnt work
[03:22] <evsophomore2009> i kinda hate Kubuntu Now
[03:23] <BluesKaj> do you have either adept, apt or synaptic open, evsophomore2009 ?
[03:25] <evsophomore2009> no nothing is open
[03:25] <evsophomore2009> im going to re-start my pc
[03:25] <evsophomore2009> brb
[03:25] <kadaz> /action waves see you soon
[03:26] <kadaz> what this is IRC    :D
[03:26] <BluesKaj> not mirc
[03:26] <kadaz> /dccsend
[03:26] <kadaz> okkkkk.
[03:26] <kadaz> I like the actions command
[03:26] <Jucato> kadaz: use /me
[03:26] <BluesKaj> in the server text box, kadaz
[03:26] <kadaz> ohhh YAH !
[03:27] <BluesKaj> okok
[03:33] <coreymon77> kadaz: sorry, i know i was gone longer than expected
[03:34] <coreymon77> kadaz: anyways, ahs he come back yet?
[03:34] <kadaz> coreymon77 you know how he was saying that password wouldnt work
[03:34] <coreymon77> kadaz: what are you talking about
[03:34] <kadaz> sudo passwd -l root  this disables the root account.
[03:34] <coreymon77> kadaz: i dont get this
[03:34] <coreymon77> kadaz: how could the password be changed
[03:35] <kadaz> by default, K as root generates a random password.
[03:35] <zoroastro> que doido, Ubuntu is the best!
[03:35] <kadaz> but its tied into the user account for access
[03:36] <kadaz> coreymon77 I havnt seen him come back yet.
[03:37] <kadaz> gets it working and doesnt back
[03:37] <DaSkreech> Jucato: yo
[03:37] <coreymon77> kadaz: thats why you dont disable root
[03:38] <Jucato> DaSkreech: yep?
[03:38] <zoroastro> good night
[03:39] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Mez logged in a few minutes after you logged out today
[03:40] <kadaz> I would think that if you did disable root, you would be able to access your computer at all.
[03:40] <kadaz> err wouldnt.
[03:40] <DaSkreech> kadaz: huh? Why?
[03:40] <ardchoille> coreymon77: Don't disable root? What are you saying?
[03:40] <coreymon77> why should you
[03:41] <coreymon77> ardchoille: dont login as root
[03:41] <ardchoille> I've been using ubuntu since warty and have never enabled root.. it's not necessary to have root enabled.
[03:41] <coreymon77> ardchoille: but dont disable it entirely
[03:41] <ardchoille> coreymon77: Ah, yeah, that's right.
[03:41] <coreymon77> ardchoille: thats what i mean
[03:41] <coreymon77> t
[03:41] <ardchoille> My root account has never been enabled.
[03:42] <coreymon77> ardchoille: neither has mine, but sudo works
[03:42] <coreymon77> and my sudo pword is my account pwrod
[03:42] <ardchoille> That's how sudo is supposed to work
[03:42] <coreymon77> ardchoille: thats the way it should be
[03:42] <ardchoille> Yeah
[03:46] <kadaz> I think root should of seperate password.
[03:46] <DaSkreech> kadaz: she does
[03:46] <coreymon77> why
[03:46] <coreymon77> if its your computer
[03:48] <kadaz> its linux
[03:48] <coreymon77> well, as long as you remember that pword
[03:48] <kadaz> I'll remember
[03:48] <kadaz> Do you forget to put on your shorts in the morning?
[03:48] <kadaz> :D
[03:48] <coreymon77> kadaz: tallmaris forgot
[03:48] <kadaz> sudo autoreset pword :DS
[03:48] <kadaz> kiddiiiing
[03:48] <DaSkreech> kadaz: go ahead enable root :)
[03:49] <DaSkreech> kadaz: it does make you easier to be atacked but it does keep a logical seperation of powers
[03:50] <coreymon77> w/e
[03:50] <coreymon77> offtopic
[03:50] <Jucato> logical separation of powers w/o root: create an administrator user w/ sudo privileges. remove your user from the admin group (sudoers group)
[03:50] <kadaz> If Iam hearing you correctly, your saying enabling root with a password makes you more recepitive to attack?
[03:51] <kadaz> I agree, if your using the account as a user account.
[03:51] <kadaz> continiously.
[03:51] <sivaji> !openmoko
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openmoko - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <sivaji> !info openmoko
[03:52] <ubotu> Package openmoko does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:52] <Jucato> sivaji: it's not a package. it's a project for a mobile phone. you won't find it on Ubuntu
[03:53] <sivaji> Jucato ok
[03:54] <erichj> !baskets
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about baskets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <DaSkreech> kadaz: no
[03:55] <DaSkreech> kadaz: if a hacker is attacking your box the only account that he knows to bethere is root
[03:55] <kadaz> correction, to be attacked
[03:55] <DaSkreech> if you disable root first he would have to figure out what your user name is then attack that
[03:56] <erichj> does the KDE group accept donations?
[03:56] <kadaz> so root remains hidden in a gui except through console.
[03:56] <erichj> nevermind, i found it
[03:57] <kadaz> so can a "root" access account be made and and still use the user account.
[03:58] <Jucato> !sudo | kadaz
[03:58] <ubotu> kadaz: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:58] <Jucato> emphasis on  the last sentence :)
[03:58] <kadaz> I already read the page :D
[03:58] <Jucato> then you should know the answer :D
[03:59] <DaSkreech> kadaz: root cannot login to the box
[04:00] <DaSkreech> kadaz: so an external remote attack would be fruitless
[04:02] <draik> Does anyone here use espeak?
[04:02] <evsophomore2009> Blueskaj: nope still dosent work
[04:02] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: what's wrong?
[04:03] <draik> Hello Jucato
[04:03] <DaSkreech> Frostwire I think
[04:03] <Jucato> hi draik!
[04:03] <draik> Jucato: There is hardly any support in Ubuntu. Quite sad :(
[04:03] <evsophomore2009> Jucato: well im trying to install updates, and it wont install because it says there was an error
[04:03] <DaSkreech> draik: Eh?
[04:03] <Jucato> draik: it's all about the timezones :)
[04:04] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: try doing it from the command line?
[04:04] <draik> DaSkreech: ?
[04:04] <draik> Jucato: I know about time zones....
[04:04] <evsophomore2009> Jucato: nope, Adept
[04:04] <DaSkreech> draik: support in Ubuntu?
[04:04] <Jucato> draik: I wasn't implying you didn't :)
[04:05] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: yes. and I'm suggesting that you try to do it from the command line. it will give you more descriptive error messages, which Adept is incapable of giving
[04:05] <draik> Jucato: I know. I was just saying that I know time zones because of you and other people that are +2 and +3 hours from me
[04:05] <Jucato> I'm +12 :)
[04:05] <draik> DaSkreech: Yeah. Seems limited or "you should know this" type of help
[04:05] <DaSkreech> Oh you mean in #ubuntu
[04:06] <draik> DaSkreech: Yup
[04:06] <DaSkreech> Well yeah
[04:06] <draik> DaSkreech: I'm sorry. Everyone here is helpful beyond belief sometimes. Ubuntu.... not so much
[04:06] <n8k99> howdy
[04:06] <DaSkreech> people in #ubuntu get surprised when I say that maybe 1/3 of the people I deal with in #kubuntu are seeking help for Gnome cause they can't get any help in #ubuntu
[04:06] <DaSkreech> n8k99: Hey mate
[04:06] <kadaz> is skim a nessary program in Kubuntu
[04:07] <evsophomore2009> Jucato: oOo okay, well im gonna try Installing the updates again, if it dosent work i'll try it from the command line
[04:07] <Jucato> wb n8k99
[04:07] <draik> DaSkreech: I'm part of that 1/3rd
[04:07] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: what was the error?
[04:07] <n8k99> thanks Jucato
[04:07] <Jucato> kadaz: for scim, (korean, japanese, chinese input) yes
[04:08] <n8k99> what did I miss?
[04:08] <draik> I guess nobody has used espeak around me. :(
[04:08] <draik> It's in the repos
[04:08] <draik> Well, my repos anyway
[04:08] <DaSkreech> n8k99: Hey mate
[04:08] <DaSkreech> Just that
[04:08] <DaSkreech> !info espeak
[04:08] <n8k99> aw
[04:08] <ubotu> espeak: A multi-lingual software speech synthesizer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.21-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 57 kB, installed size 220 kB
[04:13] <kadaz> what about the program katapult launcher?
[04:14] <Jucato> !katapult | kadaz
[04:14] <ubotu> kadaz: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[04:14] <Jucato> not essential but extremely powerful. you'll want to have it around
[04:14] <Jucato> (btw, no need to press Alt+F2 and type katapult. Just Alt+Space)
[04:14] <DaSkreech> enabled by default baby :)
[04:15] <kadaz> wow
[04:21] <erichj> is it possible to minimize Kontact to notification area?
[04:28] <erichj> nevermind
[04:29] <DaSkreech> erichj: can you?
[04:29] <erichj> yeah
[04:29] <DaSkreech> Option?
[04:30] <erichj> go to the office menu->right click on the link and select edit and when the settings manager opens there is a check box to load it to the notification to system tray
[04:32] <erichj> doesn't actually seem to work though
[04:34] <Jucato> Kontact itself doesn't have a system tray icon. alternatively you can just use KMail's or Akregator's system tray icons to create that effect
[04:34] <erichj> ok
[04:36] <sivaji> virus in linux http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/06/11/badbunny-worm.html
[04:38] <erichj> worm and its in open-office
[04:38] <sivaji> erichj ya
[04:38] <DaSkreech> and it's cros platform and doesn't exist in the wild and at worst is not even a medium threat
[04:39] <wsjunior> is gtalk supposed to work with konqueror?
[04:39] <erichj> i've never even opened open office before
[04:39] <wsjunior> i can see just my name as online but not the other contacts
[04:39] <erichj> had it installed for like 4 or 5 years now
[04:40] <erichj> wsjunior: proof you are alone in this world
[04:40] <wsjunior> when someone send a message for me it doesnt appear as in firefox
[04:40] <wsjunior> erichj: is that supposed to be funny? :)
[04:40] <erichj> wsjunior: heh
[04:41] <wsjunior> :-p
[04:41] <wsjunior> just wondering if someone got it working
[04:42] <erichj> i have never used gtalk before
[04:42] <Jucato> wsjunior: don't want to use Google Talk in Kopete?
[04:42] <wsjunior> no
[04:42] <erichj> kopete is my poison of choice
[04:48] <n8k99> Jucato i don't think google talk does teh voice channel in kopete
[04:48] <gellioth> I need help with the Adept
[04:48] <Jucato> I don't think it does in Konqueror either...
[04:48] <Jucato> !ask | gellioth
[04:48] <ubotu> gellioth: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:48] <evsophomore2009> n8k99: i have a question
[04:48] <evsophomore2009> n8k99: how do i uninstall Mozilla?
[04:48] <n8k99> Mozilla or Firefox?
[04:48] <evsophomore2009> Mozilla
[04:48] <n8k99> did you use adept, apt-get or aptitude to install it
[04:49] <Darkkish> n8k99: what is the difference exactally?
[04:49] <n8k99> none really- they all pull it down from teh repos
[04:49] <DaSkreech> !info seamonkey
[04:49] <n8k99> which is what i was reall y getting at
[04:49] <ubotu> Package seamonkey does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:49] <sivaji> !ask | gellioth
[04:51] <ubotu> gellioth: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:51] <DaSkreech> !info seamonkey gutsy
[04:51] <evsophomore2009> n8k99: apt-get
[04:51] <gellioth> I can not use it, when Im trying to download something says"that the packets were stoped"
[04:51] <ubotu> Package seamonkey does not exist in gutsy
[04:51] <n8k99> then apt-get remove mozilla
[04:51] <n8k99> although you could use either of the other two just as well
[04:51] <gellioth> hello?
[04:51] <sivaji> n8k99 use purging
[04:51] <gellioth> ubotu
[04:51] <n8k99> sivaji: ?
[04:51] <wsjunior> sudo aptitude purge mozilla
[04:52] <gellioth> I have a bad english but I need help
[04:52] <n8k99> ah yes- thanks
[04:52] <sivaji> n8k99 sorry
[04:52] <wsjunior> gellioth: what do u need?
[04:52] <n8k99> no problem--
[04:53] <gellioth> I can not download nothing with the Adept
[04:53] <twettypie0202> !mp3
[04:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:53] <sivaji> n8k99 i think  remove will delete that package from harddisk but purge will not delete
[04:53] <DaSkreech> gellioth: have you tried from the command line?
[04:53] <n8k99> so purge will uninstall?
[04:54] <wsjunior> gellioth: fetch the list of updates before trying to install something (sudo apt-get update)
[04:54] <gellioth> nop I am new using Linux and I understand nothing
[04:54] <sivaji> n8k99 yes
[04:54] <DaSkreech> ah
[04:54] <DaSkreech> gellioth: what are you trying to install
[04:54] <Jucato> n8k99, sivaji: purge will uninstall *and* delete the related system config files (not the ones in $HOME)
[04:55] <n8k99> sivaji: so if i want to uninstall but not delete from my harddisk, i use purge?
[04:55] <DaSkreech> n8k99: what?
[04:55] <gellioth> codecs to mp3, games, drivers and program to my capture card
[04:55] <Jucato> n8k99: no. you just use "remove" then
[04:55] <DaSkreech> gellioth: did you click on fetch updates ?
[04:55] <sivaji> Jucato what is the diff between remove and remove --purge
[04:55] <n8k99> DaSkreech: Jucato that's what i do and that's what i was recommending to evsophomore2009 in response to his question
[04:56] <Jucato> n8k99: but note that "remove" deletes the program, but not the related config files
[04:56] <gellioth> I will try that
[04:56] <n8k99> sivaji: was enlightening me on the finer points which i was not aware of
[04:56] <n8k99> Jucato: which i want if i decide to reinstall the package later
[04:56] <wsjunior> gellioth: this can help u with one part of the problem: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:56] <Jucato> sivaji: remove just uninstalls. remove --purge uninstalls and purges. you use "apt-get remove --purge", but with aptitude you use "aptitude purge" only
[04:57] <Jucato> n8k99: then plain "remove" is for you
[04:57] <n8k99> not me-- its for evsophomore2009
[04:57] <Jucato> sivaji: apt-get doesn't have a direct "purge" command. it only comes as a switch (--purge) to the remove command
[04:57] <sivaji> Jucato ho ic
[04:58] <Jucato> aptitude has a direct "purge" command
[04:59] <sivaji> gellioth what error u get when u try to download
[04:59] <Darkkish> how do i rename a device?
[04:59] <Darkkish> like my portable hard drive
[04:59] <n8k99> Darkkish: right button click> rename
[04:59] <gellioth> I will try to translate that
[04:59] <Darkkish> n8k99: it gives me an error
[05:00] <n8k99> hmmm
[05:00] <Darkkish> Access Denied
[05:00] <evsophomore2009> what?
[05:00] <Darkkish> I know it's really easy to change a device name in windows lol
[05:01] <NickPresta> Darkkish, you will want to open up Konqueror with root privileges. In the console, type: "kdesu konqueror". Supply your password and then rename. Then, close Konqueror.
[05:01] <Darkkish> NickPresta: i tried that
[05:01] <gellioth> a trouble with the downloading or some paquets were stoped (that I understand)
[05:01] <DaSkreech> packets
[05:02] <NickPresta> Darkkish, wait, are you talking about a mounted device or a file/folder that have root ownership?
[05:02] <sivaji> gellioth use "sudo dpkg -configure --a"
[05:02] <gellioth> sorry I have a bad english
[05:02] <Darkkish> mounted device.
[05:04] <NickPresta> Darkkish, remount the device with the new name. You can't simply "rename it", AFAIK
[05:04] <Darkkish> NickPresta: but every time i remount it it will go back to it's old name.
[05:04] <gellioth> option -o unknow
[05:04] <gellioth> sivaji
[05:05] <evsophomore2009> hey guys, thanks for your help
[05:05] <evsophomore2009> i finally got Frostwire uninstalled, and Limewire installed
[05:05] <evsophomore2009> and i got my Adept thing to fix i think
[05:05] <Darkkish> can someone remind me how to mount something?
[05:05] <sivaji>   gellioth    "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[05:06] <sivaji> evsophomore2009 dude how u r able to install limewire
[05:06] <DaSkreech> gellioth: copy and paste this in the konsole
[05:06] <DaSkreech> gellioth: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Darkkish: sudo mount /dev/name /path/to/folder
[05:07] <Darkkish> thanks
[05:07] <NickPresta> Darkkish, perhaps something like: "sudo mount -t smbfs -o defaults /dev/sda5 /media/Windows"
[05:07] <evsophomore2009> Sivaji: how am i able to?
[05:07] <gellioth> says: the area of the database of state is blocked by aother process
[05:07] <Darkkish> mount: No medium found
[05:07] <evsophomore2009> Sivaji: save the file to the desktop
[05:08] <sivaji> evsophomore2009 which file
[05:08] <NickPresta> Darkkish, you need to change /dev/sda5 to whatever your windows partition is.
[05:08] <evsophomore2009> Sivaji: ** www.limewire.com
[05:08] <evsophomore2009> hold on
[05:08] <DaSkreech> gellioth: did you close adept?
[05:08] <NickPresta> Darkkish, your portable drive, rather.
[05:08] <gellioth> nop
[05:08] <Darkkish> NickPresta: duh
[05:08] <evsophomore2009> Sivaji: do you know how to install it? Because i know how now
[05:08] <DaSkreech> gellioth:sorry forgot to tell you to close it first
[05:08] <gellioth> I will close it
[05:08] <DaSkreech> gellioth: close it and then press up on the console
[05:09] <evsophomore2009> Sivaji: Well i need to know what your using...Kubuntu, Ubuntu
[05:09] <sivaji> k
[05:09] <gellioth> and now?
[05:09] <NickPresta> Darkkish, does your destination directory exist?
[05:09] <Darkkish> yeah but i'm not sure what the name of the drive is in teh device list
[05:09] <Darkkish> I think it's hdc but i'm not positive
[05:09] <sivaji> evsophomore2009 is it in exe format or .deb format
[05:10] <Darkkish> oh i found it
[05:10] <gellioth> DaSkreech?
[05:10] <Darkkish> it's sda1
[05:10] <DaSkreech> gellioth: yes?
[05:10] <Darkkish> okay so now on my desktop the icon says
[05:10] <Darkkish> PORTABLE (Portable)
[05:10] <gellioth> I did it and now?
[05:10] <Darkkish> before it said PORTABLE (PORTABLE)
[05:10] <Darkkish> so clearly a label is incorrect
[05:10] <Darkkish> somewhere.
[05:10] <DaSkreech> gellioth: press up on the console you should get back the same command. Press enter and run it again
[05:11] <evsophomore2009> deb
[05:11] <evsophomore2009> Sivaji: select the DEB format
[05:11] <gellioth> to run adept?
[05:11] <sivaji> ya i got it thank u dude
[05:11] <DaSkreech> gellioth: no
[05:11] <DaSkreech> gellioth: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:11] <gellioth> ok
[05:12] <Darkkish> I want to try gnome without effing up my kubuntu
[05:12] <Darkkish> aka i don't want to install them both at the same time
[05:12] <gellioth> I did it
[05:13] <sivaji> evsophomore2009 u got any error when u install that limewire
[05:13] <DaSkreech> gellioth: is it running?
[05:13] <DaSkreech> Darkkish: hope you like partitions
[05:13] <gellioth> what must run? :-(
[05:14] <gellioth> konsole do not show nothing
[05:14] <klobster> how do I disable ctrl-alt-del?
[05:15] <DaSkreech> gellioth: it gave you back a prompt?
[05:15] <gellioth> nop
[05:15] <DaSkreech> klobster: from /etc/inittab
[05:15] <DaSkreech> gellioth: it's just sitting there and waiting
[05:16] <Darkkish> DaSkreech: thats a good idea, i'll try a partition editor
[05:16] <DaSkreech> ?
[05:17] <Darkkish> DaSkreech: to rename my drive
[05:17] <klobster> DaSkreech: THank you
[05:17] <kkerwin> Hi. I have an external hard drive that I am trying to get non-root users to be able to write to, but haven't had much success.
[05:17] <DaSkreech> kkerwin: what is it formatted as ?
[05:18] <kkerwin> DaSkreech: ext2. I have checked, and all permissions are set to 777, and owned by a non-root user. Still no joy.
[05:19] <DaSkreech> kkerwin: have you read the options in man mount ?
[05:19] <kkerwin> DaSkreech: Not thoroughly.
[05:20] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:20] <DaSkreech> what have you tried?
[05:20] <kkerwin> DaSkreech: Care to make the haystack a little smaller? ;-)
[05:20] <DaSkreech> users and umask would be my guess
[05:20] <kkerwin> DaSkreech: I've tried adding the users option to fstab
[05:21] <kkerwin> DaSkreech: Ok. Will try umask then ...
[05:21] <evsophomore2009> Sivaji: no i never got an error
[05:21] <evsophomore2009> Sivaji: what does the error sy
[05:21] <DaSkreech> gellioth: how is it going?
[05:22] <sivaji> nothing now i can download because of one smart guy called evsophomore2009
[05:23] <DaSkreech> hi hybrid
[05:23] <gellioth> bad nothing is upenning
[05:23] <evsophomore2009> Sivaji: haha im not too smart dude, im pretty new to Kubutnu too
[05:23] <kkerwin> DaSkreech: umask causes the fs-type to not be recognized.
[05:23] <wolferine> what can I use to image my partition, once I have everything the way I want?
[05:23] <evsophomore2009> Sivaji: but thanks for the complement
[05:24] <DaSkreech> gellioth: what were you installing?
[05:24] <evsophomore2009> Sivaji: is there anything else i can help you with?
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, dd
[05:24] <gellioth> codecs to mp3, games etc
[05:24] <sivaji> evsophomore2009 nothing dude
[05:24] <wolferine> NAME
[05:24] <wolferine>        dd - convert and copy a file
[05:24] <wolferine> really?
[05:25] <evsophomore2009> Sivaji: mmk
[05:25] <sivaji> evsophomore2009 mmk means
[05:25] <DaSkreech> gellioth: ok lets start with codecs for mp3
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, yup, set the input as /dev/<your_partition> output as an image file
[05:25] <DaSkreech> gellioth: press ctrl+C on the konsole it should give you back a prompt
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, does a bit-by-bit transfer
[05:26] <wolferine> I can make an image from it?
[05:26] <wolferine> nice
[05:26] <gellioth> ok
[05:26] <gellioth> now?
[05:26] <DaSkreech> gellioth: type sudo apt-get update
[05:26] <DaSkreech> let me know if it does anything
[05:26] <evsophomore2009> Im here to help if anyone needs help!!!
[05:26] <wolferine> good
[05:27] <kkerwin> DaSkreech: Hmm. I see now. I didn't set a value for umask. I tried umask=777, but to the same ill-effect.
[05:27] <wolferine> evsophomore2009, can you tell me how I setup a running mail server?
[05:27] <DaSkreech> kkerwin: do you know how to use umask ?
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, just be advised that the image file will be the exact same size as the partition
[05:27] <kkerwin> DaSkreech: From what I've read, it's raw octal.
[05:27] <wolferine> right, so I need to be concerned about the largest file size on an ext3 partition
[05:27] <kkerwin> Ie: same usage as chmod.
[05:28] <DaSkreech> kkerwin: ah so what do you expect the umask 777 to do ?
[05:28] <kkerwin> DaSkreech Make it rwx to everyone.
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, IIRC you can even mount the image file itself
[05:28] <DaSkreech> wolferine: no he means that the image will be the same size as your partition
[05:29] <DaSkreech> wolferine: so if you are imaging a 80 GB partition you will get an 80 GB file
[05:29] <DaSkreech> kkerwin: not make it --- for evereyone which is what it does :)
[05:29] <wolferine> but writing that large of a file, I should be concerned about how large my partition type can handle
[05:29] <DaSkreech> kkerwin: try umask=0022
[05:29] <gellioth> and now? "reading packets list... done"
[05:29] <DaSkreech> gellioth: great :)
[05:30] <DaSkreech> gellioth: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, i think you'll probably be alright with ext3
[05:30] <wolferine> so what packages to I need to run a mailserver?
[05:30] <DaSkreech> !email
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <wolferine> hey, I think so too, should be <10GB
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> !mailserver
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mailserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> wtf?
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> !mail
[05:31] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[05:31] <wolferine> its a complicated topic :)
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> !hitmanWilly is not in kindergarden
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> anyway...
[05:33] <sfire> question: is it possible to put something in rc.local that will require user input?  The application I want to run on every bootup is going to ask for a password and I want it to do it before X loads
[05:33] <gellioth> the packet is not able
[05:34] <kkerwin> DaSkreech: I have the following in my fstab, to no avail: /dev/sdb1       /media/drive    ext2    user,noauto,umask=0022  0 0
[05:34] <sivaji2009> gellioth what is u r problem
[05:34] <Dr_willis> sfire,  it MIGHT show up on the console asking.. but it may not.. I dont advise doing it that way.
[05:34] <DaSkreech> sfire: why don't you just supply it the password?
[05:34] <DaSkreech> kkerwin: users I think
[05:34] <Dr_willis> sfire,  because X will load, and show its login, and on the console you might be seeing the input prompt.
[05:34] <sfire> DaSkreech: I don't want the password in the script
[05:35] <DaSkreech> sivaji2009: he's trying to install things
[05:35] <gellioth> I cant download nothing
[05:35] <DaSkreech> sfire: read it from an external encrypted file
[05:35] <sfire> Dr_willis: how would you do it?
[05:35] <sivaji2009> DaSkreech do u know y he is not able to install
[05:35] <DaSkreech> sivaji2009: no still trying to get it sorted out
[05:35] <Dr_willis> sfire,  depends on exactly what it is you are doing.
[05:35] <kkerwin> DaSkreech: Still nothing
[05:35] <DaSkreech> gellioth: its not downloading ?
[05:35] <sfire> DaSkreech: I don't want anyone else to have access to it.. hence the password
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> sfire, everything in rc.local is run as root IIRC
[05:36] <sivaji2009> DaSkreech what he want to download
[05:36] <DaSkreech> kkerwin: how are you testing this in the fstab ?
[05:36] <DaSkreech> sivaji2009: * :)
[05:36] <wolferine> so no idea no what to install for a mail server?
[05:36] <sfire> Dr_willis: its a logon for a encrypted file system
[05:36] <DaSkreech> doesn't matter doesnt' seem to work
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Probably needs a new server
[05:36] <kkerwin> DaSkreech: /dev/sdb1       /media/drive    ext2    user,noauto,umask=0022  0 0
[05:37] <DaSkreech> wolferine: try postfix
[05:37] <DaSkreech> kkerwin: no I meant it's easier to just mount it yourself and see if others can get in
[05:37] <wolferine> hmm
[05:37] <gellioth> nop
[05:37] <wolferine> so install postfix, can I use that with php?
[05:37] <sivaji2009> gellioth close adept and try this "sudo apt-get install PACKAGE "
[05:38] <sivaji2009> gellioth package in what u need to be installed
[05:38] <DaSkreech> wolferine: php has nothing to do with a mail server
[05:38] <gellioth> to hear mp3
[05:38] <wolferine> but php uses a mailserver
[05:38] <DaSkreech> gellioth: maybe your server is down
[05:39] <DaSkreech> can you pastebin the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:39] <sivaji2009> gellioth install amarok
[05:39] <DaSkreech> !paste | gellioth
[05:39] <ubotu> gellioth: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:39] <louis_> hey guys
[05:39] <kadaz> hey guys
[05:39] <louis_> if i want to install gnome do i type apt-get install gnome?
[05:40] <gellioth> And what can I do DaSkreech?
[05:41] <DaSkreech> gellioth: pastebin the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:41] <wolferine> louis_, not exactly
[05:41] <sivaji2009> gellioth "sudo apt-get install amarok" type this at terminal
[05:41] <wolferine> kubuntu is ubuntu running KDE, ubuntu is gnome
[05:41] <louis_> wolferine, how do i do it?
[05:41] <evsophomore2009> hey does anyone know of a program that plays Movies???
[05:41] <evsophomore2009> like a video Player?
[05:41] <kadaz> I noticed that when I delete some programs like kexi, kamera, konversation, etc that it has kubunto-desktop selected also for removal
[05:41] <Dr_willis> lots of them
[05:41] <kadaz> is this safe?
[05:41] <wolferine> ubuntu running gnome*
[05:41] <kadaz> Kubuntu desktop system
[05:41] <kadaz> This package depends on all of the packages in the Kubuntu desktop system
[05:41] <kadaz> It is safe to remove this package if some of the desktop system packages are not desired.
[05:41] <Dr_willis> kadaz,  thats because kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package thats just a packatge that lists other packages..
[05:41] <sivaji2009> evsophomore2009 vlc is best
[05:41] <wolferine> louis_, you want to just have ubuntu maybe
[05:41] <evsophomore2009> VLC?
[05:41] <wolferine> unless your trying both
[05:41] <sivaji2009> ya
[05:41] <Jucato> louis_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[05:41] <Dr_willis> kadaz,  proberly best to just leave all that stuff alone.
[05:41] <kadaz> so is it safe to remove parts of the package??
[05:41] <DaSkreech> louis_: you type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:42] <kadaz> oh seriously
[05:42] <wolferine> louis_, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[05:42] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: kaffiene
[05:42] <kadaz> menu edit then.
[05:42] <sivaji2009> evsophomore2009  " http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html"
[05:42] <louis_> right
[05:42] <louis_> so i just want to stop using kde and start using gnome
[05:42] <wolferine> or you can have both
[05:42] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_willis
[05:42] <DaSkreech> kadaz: You can remove kubuntu-desktop
[05:42] <gellioth> And what I must paste bin?
[05:42] <evsophomore2009> Kaffine plays videos?
[05:42] <sivaji2009> louis_ install gnome desktop and set gnome as default
[05:42] <HymnToLife> nope
[05:42] <wolferine> louis_, you can remove kubunt-desktop, or just keep KDE
[05:42] <DaSkreech> !paste | gellioth
[05:42] <ubotu> gellioth: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:43] <HymnToLife> Kaffeine does, though :p
[05:43] <Jucato> evsophomore2009: it's primarily a video player
[05:43] <louis_> ooh okay, thanks DaSkreech
[05:43] <wolferine> wth?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> gellioth: go to that site and paste verything in that file
[05:43] <louis_> now how do i stop the terminal from downloading whatever apt-get install gnome does?
[05:43] <evsophomore2009> oh didnt know that
[05:43] <DaSkreech> louis_: ctrl+C
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> actually, xine plays videos, kaffeine just plays xine :P
[05:43] <HymnToLife> Kaffeine is basically YAXF
[05:43] <Dr_willis> hay Minataku  ya package SHOULD be there friday
[05:43] <HymnToLife> Yet Another Xine FRontend :p
[05:43] <kadaz> doesnt that remove  the kubuntu gui or just removed a selections out of the packages
[05:43] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Kickass! :D
[05:44] <Jucato> hitmanWilly: xine plays audio and video.. amarok uses xine
[05:44] <HymnToLife> I personnally prefer KMPlayer though
[05:44] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  which suprised me. when they said it would be that quick.
[05:44] <wolferine> what can I use to watch TV with my ATI AIW ?
[05:44] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Yeah, that's pretty fast
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> Jucato, i thought kaff was a frontend to xine as well?
[05:44] <kadaz> Daskreech
[05:44] <Minataku> What's in this first one?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  wife has been at the  emergancy room since 5 pm here. :( so  i will work on the actual amiga's when i get the chance.
[05:44] <HymnToLife> hitmanWilly, it is
[05:44] <louis_> wolfernine, if i remove kde then gnome will already be there?
[05:44] <Jucato> hitmanWilly: it can use mplayer, xine or gstreamer (I think). it can use multiple backends
[05:44] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Eep! Is she okay?
[05:44] <HymnToLife> louis_, np
[05:44] <HymnToLife> no*
[05:44] <DaSkreech> kadaz: Yes?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  just a lot of pain, and dehydrated.
[05:44] <Minataku> Well, obviously not if she's in the ER
[05:44] <Minataku> Ah
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> ahh, k...
[05:45] <Minataku> Well, I hope they can get that sorted out
[05:45] <osiris> wolferine, lintv i think is the name
[05:45] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Take your time, no rush ^^
[05:45] <louis_> okay so i have to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop...
[05:45] <louis_> then how do i make it the default?
[05:45] <louis_> and remove KDE?
[05:45] <Jucato> hitmanWilly: but Kaffeine's primary function is to be a frontend to xine's video playback. but it can play audio as well of course
[05:45] <Dr_willis> she couldent keep nothing down and she only weighs 120lb. They put in like 3 iv bags of saline. :) perkered her up.
[05:45] <DaSkreech> gellioth: when you paste it give us the URL that it generates in here?
[05:45] <HymnToLife> sweeeeeet, I got DVDs playing in OBSD
[05:45] <kadaz> ??????
[05:45] <evsophomore2009> so on limewire
[05:45] <Dr_willis> louis_,  why bother removing kde at all.
[05:45] <HymnToLife> God, I like that OS
[05:45] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heehee
[05:45] <evsophomore2009> how do i play a .mov?
[05:45] <Jucato> louis_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[05:45] <Minataku> I gotta go take my pills, brb
[05:45] <Dr_willis> !codecw
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codecw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <Dr_willis> !codecs
[05:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:46] <kadaz> yes for which???????
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> Jucato, well, at least im not totally off-base here :)
[05:46] <DaSkreech> louis_: install it then apt-get --purge kdelibs2c4a I think
[05:46] <sivaji2009> evsophomore2009 vlc plays    all type of vedio
[05:46] <DaSkreech> kadaz: Hmm?
[05:46] <Dr_willis> vlc is a darn nice video player. I even use it under windows
[05:46] <louis_> k thanks man
[05:46] <test> does anybody know where I can get this badbunny.odg file?
[05:46] <Jucato> hitmanWilly:  well, that an app uses xine isn't really an assurance of what it can do. Amarok uses xine, but can't play videos :)
[05:46] <HymnToLife> [05:46]  <sivaji2009> evsophomore2009 vlc plays    all type of vedio <= ...almost
[05:47] <HymnToLife> I even still prefer WMP over VLC :/
[05:47] <sivaji2009> Dr_willis but is not attractive
[05:47] <sivaji2009> Dr_willis poor skin
[05:47] <Jucato> mplayer is a curious thing :)
[05:47] <kadaz> daskreech, the question is, Is it safe to remove these programs out of the package
[05:47] <DaSkreech> kadaz: yes
[05:47] <evsophomore2009> Sivaji2009: where can i find this?
[05:47] <louis_> hey does removing the KDE desktop remove all the KDE apps too?
[05:47] <kadaz> and if so, will this affect the KDE desktop from appearing
[05:47] <DaSkreech> kadaz: you can always install them back in
[05:47] <sivaji2009> evsophomore2009 what vlc
[05:48] <DaSkreech> louis_: no
[05:48] <evsophomore2009> yes
[05:48] <HymnToLife> louis_, define "the KDE desktop"
[05:48] <Jucato> kadaz: depends on which, if you notice that it will remove half of your system, then you'll know it isn't safe
[05:48] <Dr_willis> sivaji2009,  when its fullscreened.. i dont care. :0
[05:48] <Dr_willis> heh
[05:48] <louis_> kubuntu desktop
[05:48] <HymnToLife> 'cause, well, "the desktop" is just a bunch of apps...
[05:48] <HymnToLife> oh
[05:48] <louis_> after I install ubuntu desktop
[05:48] <Dr_willis> removing all the kubuntu-desktop packages can be a bit of a huge task.
[05:48] <Jucato> louis_: if you follow the page that I gave you, that will remove everything related to kubuntu (kde apps included)
[05:48] <HymnToLife> removing kubuntu-desktop will remove close to nothing
[05:48] <sivaji2009> evsophomore2009 just fetch update and type sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:48] <louis_> with sudo apg-get --purge kdelibs2c4a
[05:48] <HymnToLife> just the cheesy artwork :p
[05:48] <Dr_willis> louis_,  you really limiteed on disk space?
[05:49] <louis_> no, but i just don't want to have it cause problems
[05:49] <Minataku> Back
[05:50] <louis_> i feel like kubuntu is less stable than ubuntu... maybe i've been smoking though...
[05:50] <louis_> maybe it's just beryl...
[05:50] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: What?
[05:50] <Darkkish> hey
[05:50] <sivaji2009> i can modify the size of linux partition using gparted or qtparted
[05:50] <Dr_willis> louis_,  having kubuntu + ubuntu both on the system will NOT cause problems.
[05:50] <Darkkish> why does deleting the #wacom only entries eff up xorg?
[05:50] <DaSkreech> louis_: ha ha :)
[05:50] <sivaji2009> all the buttons , menus remains inactive
[05:50] <Dr_willis> DarkED,  i would guess ya dident edit the last line or so in the config. :)
[05:51] <Dr_willis> oops Darkkish  i ment. :)
[05:51] <Minataku> And GTK is far more skittish than Qt
[05:51] <HymnToLife> Darkkish, most likely because you didn't delete _all_ of them
[05:51] <Darkkish> I deleted all three and i had to go into recovery mode to fix my xorg
[05:51] <Dr_willis> i hate it when my irc client only shows part of the nicks. :)
[05:51] <Dr_willis> Darkkish,  check the bottom of the config. theres a server setting for one of them that also needs changed
[05:51] <louis_> maybe i should fresh install ubuntu...
[05:52] <Dr_willis> louis_,  why? did you break somthing?
[05:52] <Darkkish> in the server layout?
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Minataku: it is?
[05:52] <Minataku> GTK seems to require absolute perfection
[05:53] <Minataku> Otherwise is sprays STDERR with a constant stream of errors
[05:53] <Biovore> its very chatty :-P
[05:53] <Minataku> GTK-critical this and OMG-WTFError that
[05:53] <sivaji2009> i  *cant* modify the size of linux partition using gparted or qtparted
[05:53] <Darkkish> Dr_willis: the entry in server layout that has the names of the sections?
[05:53] <louis_> Dr_willis, good to hear!  just a little leftover paranoia from windows lol
[05:54] <louis_> hey you can't use fluxbox with beryl/emerald themes can you?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> sivaji2009: if gellioth comes back take a look at his servers and see if they are pingable. the server hes' pulling from may have died
[05:54] <GSF1200S> Amarok crashes whenever im offline
[05:54] <DaSkreech> assuming that gellioth is a he :)
[05:54] <Dr_willis> Darkkish,  since ive removed mine. I cant tell ya. :) theres a bot factoid on it.
[05:55] <Dr_willis> beryl replaces the window manager i think.. so No not with fluxbox.
[05:55] <louis_> Dr_willis, not really, but there's just a few usability thigs that are bothering me with KDE
[05:55] <Minataku> Beryl is a WM, yeah
[05:55] <Darkkish> !wacom
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <sivaji2009> DaSkreech i cant get u
[05:55] <Minataku> So it either runs alone or under a DE
[05:55] <Darkkish> !xorg
[05:55] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:56] <louis_> it's really minutia, but I'm pretty picky about how i want my system to handle different stuff
[05:56] <DaSkreech> sivaji2009: Of course not I'm all the way over here nah nah nahnanah nah
[05:56] <gellioth> whats up with the server?
[05:56] <Minataku> !BadDevice
[05:56] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[05:56] <DaSkreech> Minataku: more accurately it's compositing manger
[05:56] <Minataku> You'd think that ubuntu would have their own page on it
[05:56] <GSF1200S> Amarok crashes offline whenever I try to play a song- kaffeine wont play files offline, and konqueror doesnt load any mpeg thumbnails
[05:56] <GSF1200S> offlien
[05:56] <GSF1200S> offline*
[05:57] <Minataku> But apparantly eliminating useless cruft is something... ah, whatever
[05:57] <DaSkreech> gellioth: I'm guessing the reason that you can't download anything is there is no where to download them from
[05:57] <Minataku> There's so much I think they do that's stupid it's not even worth complaining about
[05:57] <DaSkreech> gellioth: have you found the file /etc/apt/sources.list yet ?
[05:57] <gellioth> yes
[05:57] <DaSkreech> GSF1200S: Local files ?
[05:58] <Darkkish> Dr_willis: when I open things I get an error that says invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[05:58] <DaSkreech> gellioth: have you pasted the contents into the site?
[05:58] <Darkkish> does anyone have any idea what that is?
[05:58] <Minataku> !BadDevice | Darkkish
[05:58] <ubotu> Darkkish: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[05:58] <Darkkish> thanks
[05:58] <Minataku> np
[05:58] <GSF1200S> DaSkreech- all ready changed the amarokrc config with a ~ and the same with the amarok folder.. amarok still crashes
[05:59] <gellioth> nop.... I will do it
[05:59] <DaSkreech> GSF1200S: woah
[05:59] <sivaji2009> DaSkreech he is having kubuntu6.01
[05:59] <DaSkreech> GSF1200S: did you redo your collection ?
[05:59] <GSF1200S> maybe its another local config that causes the crash?
[05:59] <DaSkreech> sivaji2009: no clue
[05:59] <Minataku> GSF1200S: Try a better player, like XMMS or Audacious
[05:59] <Darkkish> k I'm restarting X
[05:59] <Darkkish> wish me luck
[06:00] <GSF1200S> DaSkreech- i did.. ive only got 500 songs.
[06:00] <Dr_willis> brb
[06:00] <DaSkreech> do you have podcasts or something that relies on being online?
[06:00] <Minataku> wb
[06:00] <Darkkish> yay it worked :)
[06:00] <Minataku> :D
[06:00] <GSF1200S> Minataku- doesnt change the problem with Kaffeine and konqueror mpeg video thumbnails
[06:00] <Darkkish> Man I'm hungry
[06:00] <Darkkish> Yay
[06:01] <GSF1200S> pretty crappy solution.. I like Amarok
[06:01] <Darkkish> I love "Who's Line"
[06:01] <GSF1200S> No.. no podcasts or radio stations
[06:01] <Minataku> Darkkish: You can eat them. But they provide 0 nutrition.
[06:01] <Minataku> XD
[06:01] <louis_> hold up... the Gnome download is like 725 mb ... isnt that a lot?
[06:01] <GSF1200S> I even tried to manually connect to one to invoke a crash, and it just said it couldnt connect to a server
[06:02] <louis_> it shouldnt matter, but i'm on dialup =)
[06:02] <Minataku> GSF1200S: Launch one from Konsole next time you're offline
[06:02] <DaSkreech> depends on your connection
[06:02] <DaSkreech> ha ha :)
[06:02] <louis_> bc 725 mb is like a whole cd...
[06:02] <Minataku> And save all the errors it spits out to the Konsole
[06:02] <Minataku> That'll help us out
[06:02] <sivaji2009> where i can get skin for vlc player
[06:03] <sivaji2009> ?
[06:03] <GSF1200S> Minataku- I did.. it doesnt give me an error at crash, but it does give an error at startup
[06:03] <Minataku> GSF1200S: It SHOULD give an error at crash
[06:03] <GSF1200S> just for t/s I ran amarok kdesu and still the same
[06:03] <Minataku> Purge them and reinstall them
[06:04] <gellioth> I did it DaSkreech
[06:04] <GSF1200S> kind of hard when im on the road with no internet.. this computer isnt mine
[06:04] <Minataku> Maybe you got bad packages or something
[06:04] <Minataku> Ah
[06:04] <DaSkreech> gellioth: give us the URL that it gives back to you
[06:04] <louis_> anybody?  Is 725 mb about right for unbuntu-desktop?
[06:04] <Darkkish> beryl won't start :(
[06:04] <Darkkish> why won't beryl start
[06:04] <GSF1200S> its a lappy :(
[06:04] <sivaji2009> where i can get skin for vlc player
[06:05] <louis_> darkkish, #ubuntu-effects
[06:05] <louis_> !beryl
[06:05] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:05] <GSF1200S> Whats crazy is kaffeine konqueror and amarok all work perfect once i have a connection
[06:05] <gellioth> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25472/
[06:05] <kadaz> is there such thing as a animated png?
[06:05] <Minataku> kadaz: Yeah
[06:05] <Minataku> Except it's an MNG
[06:05] <Minataku> Same format, except with animation extensions
[06:05] <gellioth> DaSkreech?
[06:05] <Minataku> Ala animated GIF
[06:06] <kadaz> does it work in KDE as a replacement?
[06:06] <DaSkreech> gellioth: you pasted into the site and clicked the button?
[06:06] <Minataku> No idea
[06:06] <Minataku> Sorry
[06:06] <kadaz> k
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Oh ok :)
[06:06] <gellioth> yes
[06:06] <DaSkreech> gellioth: sorry a little slow there :)
[06:06] <gellioth> and now?
[06:07] <Minataku> Anyway, off to Mugello Autodromo Internazionale... not IRL, of course, just in a videogame X3
[06:07] <DaSkreech> gellioth: wait while I read it
[06:07] <kadaz> is there a desktop dictionary for KDE like in gnome?
[06:08] <gellioth> ok
[06:08] <DaSkreech> gellioth: ha ha
[06:08] <DaSkreech> gellioth: how did you open the file ?
[06:09] <gellioth> without sudo
[06:09] <GSF1200S> Minataku- I get this feedback from the terminal at start (bear with me, I have to type it)
[06:09] <DaSkreech> gellioth: in kate?
[06:09] <gellioth> yes
[06:09] <DaSkreech> gellioth: ok press Alt+F2 and type this in it
[06:09] <DaSkreech> gellioth: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:10] <gellioth> now?
[06:10] <DaSkreech> gellioth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25473/
[06:11] <DaSkreech> copy the contents of that and paste it over the file
[06:11] <GSF1200S> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::insertKAccel( kaccel = 0x8098d00 ):Kaccel object already contains an action name "play_pause"
[06:12] <gellioth> What I do with that, I must erease sourses.list?
[06:12] <DaSkreech> gellioth: yes replace it with the information in the link I just gave you
[06:13] <gellioth> save?
[06:13] <wolferine> how do you remove a scheduled package from a previous install, from cli?
[06:14] <gellioth> DaSkreech my time is going down
[06:14] <DaSkreech> gellioth: yes save
[06:15] <gellioth> I saved and now?
[06:15] <DaSkreech> gellioth: if you open adept and press fetch updates you should be able to download now
[06:15] <DaSkreech> gellioth: if you cannot please let me know
[06:15] <gellioth> ok
[06:19] <louis_> how to I run chmod +x on a file?
[06:19] <louis_> i'm trying to run a script
[06:20] <HymnToLife> louis_, chmod +x filename
[06:20] <HymnToLife> you might need sudo
[06:20] <erichj> sudo chmod +x <filename>
[06:20] <DaSkreech> louis_: or type sh path/to/file
[06:21] <louis_> okay. any way to run a terminal from the desktop? i dont know the path to desktop
[06:21] <erichj> cd /home/<user>/Desktop
[06:21] <louis_> thanks
[06:21] <wolferine> anyone?
[06:21] <erichj> or if you are already in home cd /Desktop
[06:21] <gellioth> I am waiting for headers....
[06:22] <wolferine> how can I remove a previous "attempted" install of a package, which I cancelled?
[06:22] <erichj> !dpkgfix | wolferine
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpkgfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <erichj> hmm
[06:22] <wolferine> ha
[06:22] <DaSkreech> gellioth: from the fetch updates ?
[06:22] <Minataku> GSF1200S: Eep
[06:22] <wolferine> from cli, use aptitude?
[06:22] <Minataku> That's not the error I expected
[06:22] <erichj> !dkpg
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dkpg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <Minataku> Though it's also not seemingly related, either
[06:23] <DaSkreech> erichj: may want to aspell that
[06:23] <gellioth> the list is updated
[06:23] <wolferine> so you dont actually know how to do it erichj ?
[06:23] <wolferine> lol
[06:23] <DaSkreech> gellioth: ok
[06:23] <DaSkreech> try install libxine-extracodecs
[06:24] <gellioth> I will try
[06:24] <Minataku> !dpkg ! erichj
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpkg ! erichj - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <Minataku> Oops
[06:24] <Minataku> !dpkg | erichj
[06:24] <ubotu> erichj: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[06:24] <erichj> gee thanks
[06:24] <Minataku> I guess I need a spelchekur two
[06:24] <Minataku> XD
[06:24] <Minataku> erichj: np
[06:24] <DaSkreech> wolferine: what are you trying to do?
[06:24] <erichj> it's like sudo dpkg configure -a or something
[06:24] <Minataku> Oh
[06:25] <Minataku> !adeptfix
[06:25] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:25] <Minataku> :3
[06:25] <wolferine> im having issues with aptitude, I quit an install of a package, part way through
[06:25] <wolferine> and apt. keeps attempting to install it
[06:25] <erichj> there you go
[06:25] <Minataku> wolferine: Let it finish installing it then just remove it
[06:25] <GSF1200S> Minataku: yeah, and since a whole slew of crap that Ive done hasnt helped, I might have to switch back to gnome. Ive worked this one for days +(
[06:25] <wolferine> ah, thats not an option
[06:25] <Minataku> GSF1200S: That's pretty bizarre
[06:26] <DaSkreech> gellioth: not installing?
[06:26] <wolferine> I just want to remove it from the 'installing' list
[06:26] <erichj> wolferine: that will remove it
[06:26] <wolferine> its flashplugin-nonfree
[06:26] <erichj> wolferine: if it is a broken package
[06:26] <GSF1200S> its funny to watch the rest of the mpeg thumbnails load the SECOND my wifi connects
[06:26] <wolferine> which takes a night to install
[06:26] <gellioth> now is downloading :-)
[06:26] <wolferine> remove it, before its installed?
[06:26] <DaSkreech> gellioth: please enjoy the rest of your time with Kubuntu
[06:26] <Minataku> GSF1200S: That's bizarro, I mean, com-frickin'-pletely
[06:26] <erichj> just run the command
[06:27] <erichj> trust us
[06:27] <erichj> it makes adept all happy
[06:27] <gellioth> thanks my friend
[06:27] <wolferine> run which command?
[06:27] <Minataku> erichj: You sound like a drug pusher
[06:27] <wsjunior> is there any up to date version of this howto? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Fglrx_lowpower
[06:27] <Minataku> X3
[06:27] <erichj> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:27] <gellioth> now I have to go to sleep I will look for you later
[06:27] <Minataku> "Come on, just snort it, it'll make you all happy, trust me"
[06:27] <Minataku> XD
[06:28] <gellioth> THANKS
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> *snort*
[06:28] <wolferine> hmm
[06:28] <wsjunior> i have fglrx installed but i dont have  /etc/default/fglrx  and /etc/acpi/fglrx-powermode.sh
[06:28] <gellioth> bye
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> :P
[06:28] <wolferine> no output
[06:28] <erichj> wsjunior: log in and update the wikipage
[06:28] <wolferine> what does it do?
[06:28] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: YOU FOOL! THAT WAS PURE OXYGEN!
[06:28] <Minataku> XD
[06:28] <GSF1200S> Minataku... yeah, well, thanks for the help.. hopefully Ill figure it out eventually- Id try PCLOS, but they dont have my sound driver in the kernel version theyre using.. jesus, do I have to DREAM about music..lol
[06:28] <erichj> wolferine: it fixes your var lock with adept
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> OH NOES!!! XD
[06:28] <Minataku> GSF1200S: Heh
[06:28] <wolferine> restarting
[06:29] <wolferine> aptitude isnt letting me instal
[06:30] <erichj> rebooting probably won't work, but i don't want to stop you
[06:30] <wolferine> u cant
[06:30] <Minataku> Ah, this race is a long one... two laps at Nrburgring Nordschliefe
[06:30] <Minataku> bbiab
[06:30] <wolferine> its already back to the splash
[06:32] <Seek_Therapy> I need HELP
[06:32] <erichj> Seek_Therapy: xanax will help you
[06:32] <wolferine> dont we all?
[06:33] <Seek_Therapy> I can't seem to be able to get my printer working with Ubuntu
[06:33] <erichj> make and model?
[06:33] <Seek_Therapy> HP deskjet 1220c
[06:34] <Tism0p> where do i go to ask a networking question?
[06:34] <Seek_Therapy> Hurry UP !!
[06:34] <erichj> did you check the wiki?
[06:35] <Seek_Therapy> Uhm!! today erichj
[06:35] <erichj> Seek_Therapy: check http://wiki.ubuntu.con
[06:35] <erichj> Seek_Therapy: check http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:36] <Seek_Therapy> Get the lead out!
[06:37] <Seek_Therapy> that link certainly didn't work
[06:37] <erichj> the second one does
[06:37] <Tism0p> i want to use ubuntu for a Home server box, to be a DHCP Server, SMB server and also do my firewall. i was also thinking of having 3 NICs- 1 for dsl modem interface, two to the switch, i also would like the box to be headless, and have the option of web/ftp facitlies
[06:37] <Seek_Therapy> oh dear god...you typed .con
[06:38] <Tism0p> dont shoot the messenger
[06:38] <erichj> why two to the switch?
[06:38] <erichj> ICS?
[06:39] <Tism0p> i was thinking for double bandwidth i have heavy load on the server
[06:39] <Tism0p> one tx one rx
[06:40] <Seek_Therapy> what messenger ..that link has nothing about HP deskjet
[06:40] <lao> greetings
[06:40] <Seek_Therapy> Sweet Jeasus...How hard is this
[06:40] <Seek_Therapy> get with the program people
[06:41] <DaSkreech> !coc
[06:41] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[06:41] <Seek_Therapy> Just kidding with you all ..take your time
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> Seek_Therapy, hp...you probably need the hplip driver IIRC
[06:42] <erichj> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersHp?highlight=%281220c%29
[06:43] <erichj> after that it's up to you to figure out the point and click wizard that is provided for you. shouldn't be too hard for a smart guy like you
[06:43] <Seek_Therapy> Aww! you are so sweet erichj
[06:43] <Seek_Therapy> i am a girl...not a guy
[06:44] <erichj> that explains alot
[06:44] <Dangbert> Question, I just got a new (refurb) Gateway dual core AMD 64 machine from Tigerdirect and am having a problem.  When I try to do the i nstall I get an error message that says some about "IO-ACPI" indicating that it cannot connect to the ACPI.  How do I get Kubuntu to install without acpi?
[06:45] <erichj> gonna be kind of hard
[06:45] <erichj> kind of something you need
[06:45] <Dangbert> I know SUSe 10.2 has the option not to install with acpi, I was hoping Kubuntu did also
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> Dangbert, you may be able to tweak the bios settings on that one
[06:46] <erichj> try the alternate install disc and use advanced install
[06:46] <Minataku> That's IO-APIC
[06:46] <Dangbert> Okay, and do what in  Advanced Install
[06:46] <erichj> doesn't gateway usually lock out bios features like that?
[06:46] <Minataku> Completely different
[06:46] <Minataku> ACPI != APIC
[06:47] <Seek_Therapy> damn it I am using frisky not v5.10 (Breezy) & v6.06 (Dapper)
[06:47] <erichj> good point
[06:47] <Seek_Therapy> does that matter
[06:47] <erichj> Minataku: read his question wrong
[06:47] <erichj> Seek_Therapy: it is supported in feisty
[06:47] <Minataku> erichj: It happens
[06:47] <Dangbert> I an using Frisky and do not see an advance selection
[06:47] <Minataku> erichj: He read the error wrong, actually
[06:47] <Minataku> Hm
[06:47] <Minataku> !apic
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <Minataku> Bah
[06:47] <Minataku> Dangbert: Just try the alternate install CD
[06:48] <Minataku> Don't tweak anything, just see if it works
[06:48] <Dangbert> What alternate install cd?
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> Seek_Therapy, the 6.10 ones should work at least as well in feisty (hopefully) :)
[06:48] <Minataku> !alternate
[06:48] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[06:48] <Minataku> It should be located in the same place as the Desktop CD
[06:48] <Dangbert> I wil take a look  - thanks
[06:48] <erichj> IO-APIC provides multiprocessor interrupt support. so i you can disable one of the cores on your processor for the install you should be fine
[06:48] <Minataku> np
[06:49] <erichj> and then reboot and enable after install
[06:49] <Minataku> erichj: That won't work
[06:49] <erichj> no?
[06:49] <Minataku> erichj: If it fails on install it's gonna fail after, too
[06:49] <Minataku> Just let him try the alternate
[06:49] <erichj> yeah but he can install a package for it
[06:50] <erichj> try the alternate
[06:50] <erichj> it will work
[06:52] <erichj> can't he just pass noapic option for kernel during install?
[06:52] <Seek_Therapy> well HOT DAMN ! erichj...i got it working
[06:53] <erichj> imagine that, who says you don't need a man in this day and age
[06:53] <dandy_> hi
[06:53] <Dangbert> does "noacpi" work?
[06:53] <Seek_Therapy> except its taking up all my ink
[06:53] <Seek_Therapy> on the test page
[06:53] <dandy_> hi there
[06:54] <erichj> Dangbert: well is it and acpi or apic problem
[06:54] <dandy_> im pilipino
[06:55] <Dangbert> it is an apic problem  the error message reads "MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC"
[06:55] <erichj> Dangbert: try the alternate cd with not command line options first and if it screws up we can walk you through the process of passing the option to the kernel command line
[06:56] <erichj> with no
[06:56] <dandy_> what are the basic in using konsole terminal? plss help me
[06:56] <erichj> it's like any other shell
[06:56] <Seek_Therapy> but you are a smart little bogger eater
[06:57] <erichj> dandy_: have you ever used a shell before?
[06:57] <dandy_> not wet
[06:57] <dandy_> not yet sorry
[06:58] <Dangbert> Okay, I am downloading the Alternate now, will be back tomorrow
[06:58] <dandy_> o thanks
[06:58] <erichj> http://www.phptr.com/articles/article.asp?p=441605&seqNum=2&rl=1
[06:58] <erichj> that will get you started
[06:58] <dandy_> very much appreciated
[06:59] <erichj> welcome
[07:00] <DaSkreech> !commands | dandy_
[07:00] <ubotu> dandy_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:01] <dandy_> then?
[07:02] <Seek_Therapy> I have another quickie question
[07:03] <Seek_Therapy> Is there a tool or something that can help make command line easier
[07:04] <DaSkreech> Seek_Therapy: tab :)
[07:04] <Seek_Therapy> No! I am being serious
[07:05] <Jucato> depends on what you would consider "easier"
[07:05] <Seek_Therapy> How can i put this
[07:05] <Jucato> generally a "tool or something that can make command line easier" would be a GUI app for a particular command/app
[07:05] <Seek_Therapy> something like 1+1=2
[07:06] <Jucato> O.o
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Dang it we lost again!
[07:06] <Jucato> still have to put it in better words... unless someone else can understand...
[07:06] <DaSkreech> !tab | Seek_Therapy
[07:06] <ubotu> Seek_Therapy: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[07:07] <Seek_Therapy> maybe something that offers shock learning ...I seem to do better with the conditioning method of learning
[07:09] <Seek_Therapy> let me try that
[07:09] <akrus> someone here to help with proftpd? :)
[07:09] <akrus> #proftpd seems inactive x_X
[07:10] <Tism0p> what should i need to do to setup ubuntu as the server for my network?
[07:10] <erichj> !ubuntuserver
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <erichj> what like dchp?
[07:11] <Tism0p> everything :)
[07:11] <Tism0p> atm my dsl modem/router is doing it
[07:11] <Tism0p> dhcp and dns
[07:12] <Seek_Therapy> son of a  biscuiteaters, thats two in a row...I better quit while i am ahead..it works
[07:12] <erichj> Tism0p: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenSourceNetworkManagementServer?highlight=%28network%29%7C%28server%29
[07:12] <Tism0p> the xp boxes on my net can see the ubuntu shares
[07:12] <Tism0p> so i basically want ubuntu to do all the nbetwork controlling and also ftp serving
[07:14] <erichj> Tism0p: or you could search through adept for packages that do what you want
[07:14] <erichj> Tism0p: there a a number of them
[07:14] <erichj> are
[07:14] <Tism0p> dhcpd
[07:14] <Tism0p> ftpd etc ?
[07:14] <Tism0p> i'm somewhat of a  nix noob
[07:15] <erichj> yeah
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Seek_Therapy: why do you want to learn the terminal so badly/quickly ?
[07:15] <Tism0p> i can translate and have been able to setup most of the stuff
[07:15] <erichj> samba
[07:15] <Tism0p> ya
[07:16] <erichj> lots of network packages out there
[07:16] <Tism0p> figure out the sharing and permissons
[07:16] <erichj> the wiki is a good resource
[07:16] <Tism0p> yeah  been reading lots
[07:17] <Tism0p> so basically smb is going ok
[07:17] <Tism0p> i have router doing DNS and DHCP but want to relocate them to outside my lan so ubuntu can firewall
[07:18] <Tism0p> thne upgrade my link to my switch two 2 NICs so i can get more throughput, but does it actually work?
[07:18] <erichj> why don't you use the firewall that your router provides
[07:18] <Tism0p> i though nix would be better
[07:19] <Tism0p> likewise with dhcp and dns
[07:19] <Tism0p> like i said, bit of a noob, but i have been aware that nix is FAR supurioer to all in security and cutomablility
[07:19] <erichj> not always the case, it would be different if you were talking hundreds of computers and possibly hundreds or thousands of ports and services
[07:20] <Tism0p> atm  i have approx 10 devices on the lan. so not a great deal of performance increase?
[07:21] <erichj> no
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Night all!!!
[07:21] <Tism0p> would nix be more realible?
[07:22] <erichj> thats a hard question to answer, you realize your router is probably running linux
[07:22] <Tism0p> yeah have noticed that :)
[07:22] <Tism0p> just embedded on  chip
[07:22] <erichj> and it's not so much a question of operating systems as it is a question of software.
[07:23] <erichj> i would go with the router, take the time and setup port forwarding and create a tight firewall policy
[07:24] <erichj> no reason you can't just run firestarter on each box if you are worried
[07:24] <erichj> as far as dchp goes...that is what your router is designed to handle
[07:28] <Seek_Therapy> I am going for it ....I am rolling the dice..can someone tell me if frisky can be used with this tutorial http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/RailsOnUbuntu
[07:28] <erichj> Seek_Therapy: check adept, there are ruby packages in the repositories
[07:28] <visham> any nmap users
[07:28] <visham> nmap freezes my adsl modem
[07:28] <visham> pls help me
[07:28] <Seek_Therapy> so i don't have tp use that setup page
[07:28] <Seek_Therapy> to*
[07:28] <visham> when i run the command 'nmap -sS -T4 -O scanme.nmap.org' my modem freezes after few seconds although nmap continues scanning and shows little progress
[07:29] <erichj> Seek_Therapy: thats right
[07:29] <erichj> open adept do a search for ruby
[07:29] <erichj> think the reps have ruby1.9
[07:30] <Seek_Therapy> I am fairly new with linux/unix so not having a step by step will hurt me
[07:30] <Seek_Therapy> ok..hold on
[07:30] <Seek_Therapy> will this set up apache too
[07:30] <erichj> no
[07:31] <Seek_Therapy> I want the whole enchilada
[07:32] <kadaz> Iam trying to play a dvd but says I dont have the right?
[07:32] <kadaz> !dvd
[07:32] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:33] <erichj> Seek_Therapy: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html
[07:34] <Seek_Therapy> so would i start by installing apache first ..rigjt?
[07:34] <Seek_Therapy> right?
[07:34] <Seek_Therapy> then ruby on cocaine
[07:34] <erichj> i think ruby does better with lightpd
[07:35] <Seek_Therapy> oh is light another sever
[07:35] <Seek_Therapy> server
[07:35] <erichj> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ruby-on-rails.html
[07:35] <erichj> yes
[07:35] <erichj> follow those instructions
[07:36] <erichj> make sure you do a listen on port 80 in your host file if the server is just a dev server
[07:36] <Seek_Therapy> let me sneak a peak
[07:37] <Seek_Therapy> why will i here a train coming
[07:38] <Seek_Therapy> let me try and set this up
[07:38] <Seek_Therapy> hold on
[07:38] <Seek_Therapy> just i check the port first
[07:38] <Seek_Therapy> ahould**
[07:38] <Seek_Therapy> s
[07:38] <kadaz> I have a dvd player problem
[07:38] <kadaz> The source can't be read.
[07:38] <kadaz> Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading from DVD.)
[07:39] <kadaz> theres no scatches or anything
[07:39] <Seek_Therapy> you know what i am trying to say
[07:39] <erichj> no do check first, its not open by default
[07:40] <erichj> it won't be open until later
[07:40] <erichj> kadaz did you install the aud-dvd codecs?
[07:40] <Seek_Therapy> so should i open it
[07:40] <kadaz> I dont know
[07:40] <erichj> Seek_Therapy: not right now, just follow those instructions
[07:41] <Seek_Therapy> Calm down there cougar..ok..ok
[07:41] <erichj> kadaz: have you ever been able to play dvds?
[07:41] <kadaz> nope
[07:41] <erichj> then that is a no probably
[07:41] <erichj> just a sec
[07:42] <kadaz> I installed kubuntu on dvd
[07:42] <erichj> different matter
[07:42] <kadaz> and watched dvd movie in windows
[07:42] <erichj> talking about encrypted dvds
[07:42] <kadaz> but not since linux
[07:42] <kadaz> k
[07:43] <erichj> kadaz: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[07:44] <ardchoille> !libdvdcss2
[07:44] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:44] <ardchoille> kadaz: ^^
[07:48] <ardchoille> erichj: Oh, sorry abot that. Didn't mean to step on you there :(
[07:48] <kadaz> got it.
[07:48] <kadaz> bbs
[07:48] <erichj> ardchoille: i sent him to the blog because it's better for beginners
[07:48] <ardchoille> erichj: Right, I didn't read before posting
[07:48] <kadaz> is it safe to install gedit on kde?
[07:48] <erichj> sure
[07:48] <erichj> kate is much nicer though, in my opinion
[07:48] <ardchoille> kadaz: You can safely run most gnome apps in kde and vice versa. However, if you want a powerful tabbed editor, check out kate.. it's installed with kubuntu
[07:48] <ardchoille> kadaz: I think installing gedit is going to pull in a lot of gnome with it.
[07:48] <erichj> yeah, like all the gtk crap
[07:48] <ardchoille> Yes
[07:48] <erichj> give kate a shot
[07:48] <erichj> or even kwrite
[07:48] <ardchoille> kate is nice
[07:49] <Jucato> well, Kate isn't a "tabbed" editor per se... but...
[07:49] <erichj> you could always use bluefish
[07:49] <ardchoille> Well, true, but it may as well be.
[07:50] <Jucato> quite amusing is the fact that kate actually has tabs. they're just hidden and superceded by the Document list panel
[07:50] <sparr> I have a Gigabyte GA-M61PM-S2 motherboard with onboard audio.  Manual says Realtek ALC883 chip.  LSPCI says "nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio".  lsmod says I am using snd_hda_intel.  Audio in about half of my games has static.  Help?
[07:50] <louis_> hey guys
[07:50] <erichj> sparr: use alsa and see if it fixes it.
[07:51] <ardchoille> sparr: What is your question?
[07:51] <louis_> how do i open xorg.conf from the command line?
[07:51] <Seek_Therapy> erichj: its working...look at Meeee ! I can fly
[07:51] <crdlb> louis_, kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:51] <louis_> thanks
[07:51] <ardchoille> louis_: sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:51] <erichj> Seek_Therapy: awesome
[07:51] <sparr> ardchoille: what could cause it?  how can i fix it?  what troubleshooting steps should i try?
[07:52] <ardchoille> sparr: For sound? I don't know, I don't use sound.. not even sure if mine works.
[07:52] <ardchoille> Us deaf folks don't bother with that stuff ;)
[07:53] <sparr> erichj: it seems to
[07:53] <erichj> sparr: system settings -> sound system -> hardware tab -> select device -> advanced linux sound system or try open sound system
[07:53] <erichj> i have the same sound controller
[07:53] <erichj> mine works fine with alsa
[07:53] <louis_> crdlb, i can't find the extensions part of my xorg.conf file ...
[07:54] <crdlb> louis_, there isn't one by default
[07:54] <crdlb> just add it to the end
[07:54] <louis_> oh i have to add those lines?
[07:54] <crdlb> yeah
[07:54] <louis_> oaky without the # right?
[07:54] <crdlb> correct
[07:54] <erichj> sparr: you can also override the sampling and quality settings
[07:54] <crdlb> if you put a # in front, they would be ignored
[07:54] <sparr> erichj: lets assume it works fine with alsa.  how can i fix the problem with oss?
[07:54] <erichj> push it up to full duplex
[07:55] <erichj> sparr: look for a newer driver
[07:55] <sparr> 2.6.20-16 is out
[07:55] <sparr> im using 2.6.20-15
[07:55] <sparr> maybe there was a patch to the driver
[07:55] <erichj> perhaps
[07:56] <sparr> solutions that dont require a reboot are preferable right now
[07:56] <GSF1200S> anyone here know anything about PCLOS? Ive been trying to find out for days if one can use aptitude instead of apt-get, and the irc channel simply wont answer the question...
[07:57] <erichj> you shouldn't have to update the kernel, i am using 16, is there a reason you don't want to use alsa?
[07:57] <ardchoille> GSF1200S: aptitude and apt-get are front ends for APT (Advanced PAckage Tool), I'm pretty sure you can use aptitude if apt-get works
[07:58] <Seek_Therapy> ok...I have gotten this far and i don't want to mess it all up. I just finished the " install lighttpd package run the following command"
[07:58] <GSF1200S> ardchoille- thank you.. I thought the same thing, I just didnt know if I was missing something
[07:58] <Seek_Therapy> now what
[07:58] <sparr> erichj: lots of games dont support alsa
[07:59] <Seek_Therapy> do i install mysql next ?
[07:59] <erichj> sparr: well as far as oss goes, i won't be much help. i use alsa and i am able to play black and white 2 with it
[07:59] <GSF1200S> sparr.. is that why games on linux always have a scratchy static sound when I play them?
[08:00] <erichj> and battle for middle earth
[08:00] <ardchoille> GSF1200S: PCLOS? You mean PC Linux OS? I think that's rpm based. Does it use apt4rpm ?
[08:00] <Seek_Therapy> or should i configure
[08:00] <sparr> GSF1200S: all games?  for me its just some.  lots of games use OSS, and lots use ALSA.
[08:00] <GSF1200S> ardchoille: yes
[08:00] <ardchoille> ok
[08:00] <GSF1200S> that make aptitude any different?
[08:00] <erichj> Seek_Therapy: configure
[08:00] <erichj> you can install mysql later if you want
[08:00] <sparr> erichj: ok.  Lincity-ng is my OSS example, easy for people to get and it runs in a window.  its what ive been testing with
[08:01] <ardchoille> GSF1200S: No, if apt-get works, aptitude should work too
[08:01] <GSF1200S> I know PCLOS doesnt come with aptitude, so it must be in PCLOS repos
[08:02] <GSF1200S> well.. nighttime for me guys.. later
[08:03] <Seek_Therapy> it tells me
[08:03] <Seek_Therapy> Run /etc/init.d/lighttpd force-reload to enable changes
[08:04] <erichj> so open a terminal and type /etc/init.d/lighttpd force-reload
[08:04] <Seek_Therapy> oh
[08:05] <Seek_Therapy> but i already typed in the next command and got an error
[08:05] <Seek_Therapy> fastcgi-backend /usr/bin/php-cgi failed to start:
[08:06] <erichj> so open a terminal and type /etc/init.d/lighttpd force-reload and then whatever it tells you to type next
[08:06] <Seek_Therapy> k
[08:08] <Seek_Therapy>  * Stopping web server lighttpd                                                 rm: cannot remove `/var/run/lighttpd.pid': Permission denied
[08:08] <erichj> sudo /etc/init.d/lighttpd force-reload
[08:08] <Seek_Therapy> Its all messed up
[08:08] <erichj> sudo /etc/init.d/lighttpd force-reload
[08:08] <Seek_Therapy> Ohhh
[08:09] <Seek_Therapy> opps
[08:10] <Seek_Therapy>  the fastcgi-backend /usr/bin/php-cgi failed to start:
[08:14] <ardchoille> !lighttpd
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lighttpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <ardchoille> !info lighttpd
[08:14] <ubotu> lighttpd: A fast webserver with minimal memory footprint. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.13-9ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 283 kB, installed size 832 kB
[08:15] <ardchoille> Seek_Therapy: Have you seen this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lighttpd+PHP?highlight=%28lighttpd%29
[08:15] <ardchoille> Has some info
[08:16] <erichj> ardchoille: see if you can find one on lighttpd and ruby
[08:16] <kadaz> back
[08:17] <erichj> !info ruby
[08:17] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (feisty), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[08:17] <ardchoille> erichj: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22lighttpd%22%2Bruby&btnG=Google+Search
[08:20] <Ahmuck> what is the "web user" in kubuntu.  it's not apache it appears
[08:22] <erichj> how do you purge a package with apt-get?
[08:22] <crdlb> erichj, sudo apt-get --purge remove package
[08:22] <erichj> awesome
[08:23] <kadaz> is kubuntu known as feisty  in repositories listings
[08:25] <crdlb> kadaz, yes the latest version of kubuntu is feisty (7.04)
[08:25] <kadaz>  deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free
[08:25] <kadaz> so I replace edge with feisty ?
[08:25] <crdlb> !medibuntu
[08:25] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[08:26] <crdlb> I would check the website and get the deb lines from there
[08:26] <kadaz> thats what it said
[08:26] <crdlb> well no they've changed to medibuntu.org
[08:27] <ardchoille> kadaz: Are you upgrading?
[08:27] <kadaz> Iam putting in dvd codecs
[08:27] <ardchoille> kadaz: Are you on Feisty right now?
[08:27] <kadaz> yup
[08:28] <ardchoille> kadaz: Please don't use Edgy repos, it's not a good idea to mix repos like that.
[08:28] <ardchoille> kadaz: Which package are you searching for?
[08:28] <kadaz> If you are running Feisty or some other release, other than edgy, replace the word edgy in both lines above with the name of the release you are using.
[08:28] <kadaz> libdvdcss2 w32codecs
[08:28] <ardchoille> kadaz: That's very bad advice.
[08:29] <ardchoille> !libdvdcss2 | kadaz
[08:29] <ubotu> kadaz: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:30] <ardchoille> kadaz: Info about feisty repos here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:30] <kadaz> ok
[08:34] <kadaz> ardchoille it keeps saying I need to use the SPManager
[08:34] <kadaz> do I uninstall adept and install SPM
[08:35] <ardchoille> kadaz: Which command returns that message?
[08:35] <kadaz> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html
[08:35] <kadaz> dvd playback, it says I need to use synaptic PM
[08:37] <ardchoille> kadaz: synaptic is just a gui front-end for APT, just like adept, and apt-get is a cli front-end, those are just gui's. you can use any package manager to install the needed packages.
[08:37] <kadaz> To activate DVD decryption, type the following line into a terminal prompt:
[08:37] <kadaz> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[08:37] <kadaz> ok is the line the same??
[08:37] <ardchoille> kadaz: Yes, that is a script that installs libdvdcss2, you can go that way and it'll install for you.
[08:37] <ardchoille> Actually, that may be quicker for you.
[08:37] <kadaz> I tried that
[08:37] <nbcb> if i burn a data dvd in k3b, will i be able to use the dvd in windows?
[08:38] <kadaz> sudo: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh: command not found
[08:38] <erichj> as long as you don't disable joliet extensions
[08:38] <ardchoille> kadaz: yes, you didn't give sudo a command. Try this:  cd /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples && sudo ./install-css.sh
[08:38] <erichj> sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[08:38] <ardchoille> or that
[08:39] <kadaz> -su: cd: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples: No such file or directory
[08:39] <kadaz> ok
[08:39] <kadaz> shpetim: Can't open /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[08:40] <ardchoille> kadaz: You need to install libdvdread3 first. sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[08:40] <kadaz> 1. it said to install libdvdread3, which it says its ready installed.
[08:40] <ardchoille> then you can run that script
[08:40] <kadaz> libdvdread3 is already the newest version.
[08:40] <kadaz> libdvdread3 set to manual installed.
[08:40] <ardchoille> kadaz: Did you use automatix ?
[08:41] <kadaz> for what?
[08:41] <ardchoille> For anything
[08:41] <kadaz> not that I remember.
[08:41] <ardchoille> Good, stay away from it :)
[08:41] <ardchoille> kadaz: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[08:42] <ardchoille> kadaz: step two of that page says sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[08:42] <ardchoille> Did you read step one?
[08:42] <kadaz> yah
[08:42] <kadaz>  libdvdread3 is already the newest version.
[08:42] <kadaz> libdvdread3 set to manual installed.
[08:43] <ardchoille> ok, then sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[08:43] <kadaz> it also says there is a butch of packages that are no longer required and Ishould use apt0-get automrmove
[08:43] <kadaz> apt-get autoremove
[08:43] <ardchoille> Save that for later.
[08:44] <ardchoille> LEt's worry about getting your dvd's playing right now
[08:44] <kadaz> shpetim: Can't open /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[08:44] <ardchoille> And, btw, I use xine and mplayer to play dvd's because they are both much much better than totem.
[08:44] <erichj> kaffiene
[08:44] <ardchoille> That too
[08:44] <ardchoille> Better than totem
[08:44] <erichj> yeah
[08:45] <kadaz> I have ogle, mplayer and kaffiene
[08:45] <ardchoille> Good choices
[08:45] <erichj> i use vlc and kaffiene
[08:45] <ardchoille> kadaz: ls /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples
[08:45] <kadaz> I also  installed a camorama web viewer, would that have anything to do with it
[08:46] <erichj> no
[08:46] <ardchoille> no
[08:46] <kadaz> Xrawtv?
[08:46] <ardchoille> Never heard of it
[08:46] <erichj> no, nothing is probably causing a conflict
[08:46] <kadaz> ok
[08:47] <ubuntu_> anybody know how to boot in recovery mode?
[08:47] <ubuntu_> either with kubuntu or with knoppix... doesnt matter
[08:47] <michael__> i cant get my windows smb shares to work correctly
[08:47] <erichj> unless you used automatix, then we got problems
[08:47] <michael__> can anyone help?
[08:47] <ardchoille> I was suspicious he did use automatix
[08:47] <erichj> !info samba | michael__
[08:47] <ubotu> michael__: samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 3262 kB, installed size 7992 kB
[08:47] <kadaz> I would remember using it.
[08:47] <erichj> !samba
[08:48] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:48] <ardchoille> yeah
[08:48] <kadaz> !automax
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <michael__> i did that erichj
[08:48] <ardchoille> !automatix
[08:48] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:48] <michael__> i added \\Comp-Mike\J\
[08:48] <kadaz> ok
[08:48] <michael__> it doesnt show up
[08:48] <michael__> is there like an autodetect program?
[08:48] <kadaz> I tried an automatic install for the webcam
[08:48] <erichj> smb://Comp-Mike/
[08:49] <michael__> that doesnt show anything
[08:49] <erichj> did you make sure you got the workgroup right?
[08:50] <michael__> i know its MSHOME
[08:50] <michael__> where do i set that?
[08:50] <erichj> make sure your windows computer is using the same workgroup
[08:50] <michael__> it is MSHOME i know that
[08:51] <michael__> konq, says time out out on it
[08:52] <kadaz> Oh I used easycam2 which as an automatic finder.
[08:52] <kadaz> !easycam2
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easycam2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <ardchoille> Linspire is getting deals with M$ now?
[08:53] <kadaz> !WorksForMe
[08:53] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:53] <nbcb> if i burn a data dvd in k3b, will i be able to use the dvd in windows? <-- that means if generate joliet extensions i can use them in windows?
[08:54] <kadaz> now what?
[08:54] <ardchoille> Isn't Linspire where Ubuntu will get the CNR stuff?
[08:58] <austrojedi> gooooooooooood morning #kubuntu
[09:00] <michael__> okay so basically
[09:00] <ardchoille> kadaz: Where are you, what have you done thus far?
[09:01] <michael__> smb://192.168.100/ shows my shares
[09:01] <michael__> but when i put that in the fstab and go to the place i told it to mount it doesnt work
[09:01] <kadaz> /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[09:01] <kadaz> that did it
[09:01] <ardchoille> kadaz: It's installed now?
[09:01] <kadaz> yup dvd works
[09:01] <ardchoille> Great :)
[09:01] <kadaz> thank you for your help ardchoille and erichj
[09:01] <kadaz> now the web camera :D
[09:01] <erichj> np
[09:02] <erichj> good luck
[09:02] <ardchoille> kadaz: You're welcome :)
[09:02] <michael__> any idea why erichj
[09:02] <ardchoille> kadaz: I can't help with webcams, I don't know anything about them, sorry
[09:02] <erichj> no idea, i use NAS devices because i hate samba
[09:02] <michael__> ah
[09:02] <ardchoille> lol
[09:05] <erichj> i also refuse to run windows on any box i own, so that also helps with the not using samba part of my life
[09:06] <ardchoille> I haven't touched Windows since 2001.. and it'll stay that way :)
[09:08] <jovans> hi@all
[09:08] <ardchoille> !hi
[09:08] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:09] <kraut> moin
[09:10] <michael__> how do i unmount the smb from /media/shares
[09:10] <michael__> umount /media/shares
[09:10] <michael__> ?
[09:14] <jussi01> michael__: that should work, but i would think you may need a sudo on the frony
[09:15] <jussi01> front
[09:15] <michael__> thanks got it working
[09:20] <dcosson> does anyone in here, by chance, have or know where i can get a deb for the Kirocker kicker applet?
[09:21] <ardchoille> !kirocker
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kirocker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <ardchoille> !info kirocker
[09:21] <ubotu> Package kirocker does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:29] <kadaz> I was serious guys, thank you. I'll work out the webcam at a later date.
[09:29] <kadaz> does kopete have a build in spellcheck like gaim
[09:29] <ardchoille> kadaz: You might search the wiki for webcam info
[09:29] <kadaz> abc yes I see that it does.
[09:29] <emonkey-p> yes spell check works in kopete
[09:29] <Jucato> kadaz: yes. right-click on the text input area
[09:30] <kadaz> awsome
[09:30] <kadaz> /rejoin
[09:30] <HymnToLife> spell check is the most annoying thing ever...
[09:30] <HymnToLife> and it's sometimes tricky to disable :/
[09:30] <Jucato> depends on who you ask...
[09:31] <nullkuhl> guys is it bad to have kde applications running on gnome ?
[09:32] <ardchoille> nullkuhl: Not at all
[09:33] <nullkuhl> ok also some kde application dont work on gnome such as super karamaba any solution to this ?
[09:33] <dwidmann> nullkuhl: of course, but you won't like the solution I'm about to recommend ;)
[09:33] <nullkuhl> which is ?
[09:34] <nullkuhl> dwidmann:  ?
[09:34] <nullkuhl> install all kde libraris ?
[09:34] <dwidmann> The obvious, easy way of fixing the problem.
[09:34] <dwidmann> run kde :)
[09:34] <ardchoille> Switch to kde?
[09:34] <ardchoille> ;)
[09:35] <nullkuhl> lol i haaaaateeeee KDE i prefer switchin to windows than switchin to kde lol.. though kde applications are da best
[09:35] <dwidmann> odd, what is it about KDE that you dislike so much?
[09:35] <Jucato> O.o
[09:35] <nullkuhl> okay,, first : gui,, i prefer the simple gnome one alot that windows like gui in kde
[09:36] <nullkuhl> second kde uses a way much more memory than gnome
[09:36] <Jucato> !memory
[09:36] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[09:36] <nullkuhl> third sometimes kde goes real heavy while gnome never does that
[09:36] <Jucato> third is related to second. see the link above
[09:36] <nullkuhl> fourth :
[09:36] <nullkuhl> in switching workspaces
[09:36] <nullkuhl> in gnome each work space has its own taskbar
[09:37] <nullkuhl> but in kde all applications in all workspaces exist in 1 taskbar
[09:37] <nullkuhl> which is bad
[09:37] <Jucato> duh. right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Taskbar
[09:37] <dwidmann> nullkuhl: you can change number 4 to suit
[09:37] <nullkuhl> lol okay thats 1 out of 4 reasons
[09:37] <nullkuhl> wat abt the memory stuff ?
[09:37] <nullkuhl> and also the gui
[09:37] <Jucato> see the link
[09:38] <nullkuhl> ah i forgot something
[09:38] <nullkuhl> fifth: gnome file manager is a way better than konqurer
[09:38] <Jucato> the gui? what about it? what can't you customize in the gui to make it "more simple"
[09:38] <Jucato> O.o
[09:38] <nullkuhl> if u have a solution to this ill switch to kde right now
[09:39] <dwidmann> As per memory usage, kubuntu doesn't as well as a stripped down, kde-core, according to some benchmark-like numbers I've seen. Could be wort checking if you have an underpowered machineh
[09:39] <nullkuhl> i just don like konqurer
[09:39] <Jucato> yeah, I like to have 5 windows per folder open than 5 tabs per window... (or maybe 5 splits)
[09:39] <ardchoille> nullkuhl: This is a kde support channel, not a kde bashing channel. please take ti to another channel.
[09:39] <nullkuhl> lol
[09:39] <dwidmann> dolphin?
[09:39] <nullkuhl> just 1 more question,, can i replace the konqurer in kde ?
[09:40] <KevinAlaska> Hello everyone... I have a question about icons that seem to have gone missing in my menu (only some and seems like a only a few random icons) I can still execute them from CLI (at least the one application I tried).  Is this a known problem and is there an easy fix for it? :S
[09:40] <nullkuhl> with anyother file managment
[09:40] <dwidmann> nullkuhl: anyhow, I always hated nautilus, and I adore konqueror, so ... to each his own
[09:40] <dwidmann> nullkuhl: try dolphin
[09:40] <Jucato> a perfect way of asking for help/advice/idea is to say you hate something first then challenge to disprove you
[09:40] <Jucato> KevinAlaska: which menu? which icons?
[09:40] <nullkuhl> lol Jucato exactly :D
[09:40] <Jucato> I was being sarcastic btw.
[09:41] <KevinAlaska> kopete is the one I noticed.. heh.  but I think there are others I just don't know which.
[09:41] <Jucato> and ardchoille is right
[09:41] <nullkuhl> yea yea yea,. fine..
[09:41] <Jucato> KevinAlaska: icons from which menu. K Menu?
[09:41] <KevinAlaska> doh.. sarcasm in typing is hard to do... heh
[09:42] <KevinAlaska> settings I think .. not sure if there are more
[09:42] <Jucato> KevinAlaska: did you change icon themes maybe?
[09:42] <KevinAlaska> and Howdy Jucato! :)
apparently Jucato forget to tag it</sarcasm>
[09:42] <Jucato> dwidmann: I lost my autoreplace for [/sarcasm]  :)
[09:42] <KevinAlaska> not in a while I think...
[09:42] <Scullder> 'jour
[09:43] <nullkuhl> guys wat language is used to make the kde - gnome applications,, ubuntu applications generally is it python or wat ?
[09:43] <Jucato> hm... can't seem to think of a situation that would cause this (not that I completely understand what's wrong)
[09:43] <KevinAlaska> is there an /auto_scratch_self or simular command? ;)
[09:43] <dwidmann> nullkuhl: kde = c++, gnome = c
[09:43] <Jucato> KDE uses Qt/C++. GNOME uses GTK+/C
[09:43] <dwidmann> of course, there are exceptions to that
[09:43] <Jucato> there are apps in Ubuntu that use Python
[09:44] <KevinAlaska> Jucato! Pft!! Okay I will just have to think that you are NOT perfrect after all... I hope you can live with that image in your sleep tonight! :P
[09:44] <nullkuhl> [10:43]  <Frogzoo> nullkuhl: gnome is python
[09:45] <nullkuhl> :S python or c
[09:45] <Jucato> KevinAlaska: sure. that's hours away :)
[09:45] <Scullder> gnome is evil :o|
[09:45] <KevinAlaska> :S
[09:45] <dwidmann> nullkuhl: think there are some gnome apps written in mono
[09:45] <Jucato> GNOME uses GTK+, which is a C GUI toolkit. there are GNOME apps that are written in other languages
[09:46] <nullkuhl> but kde is all c++ i guess now
[09:46] <Jucato> but they use GTK+ bindings
[09:46] <nullkuhl> right ?
[09:46] <Jucato> mostly. but, like GNOME, there are apps written in other languages
[09:46] <dwidmann> nullkuhl: in the main kde svn repository, I think there is only one app that isn't c++
[09:46] <Jucato> kde-guidance
[09:47] <dwidmann> yup, that'd be the one
[09:47] <Jucato> there are bindings for Python, Ruby, Mono (I think), Java, and C
[09:47] <Voyage_> IF some day ubuntu stoped the support for repositories and apps. how can i use synaptic then ?
[09:48] <Jucato> Voyage_: IF that day happens, Ubuntu will stop existing
[09:48] <dwidmann> Voyage_: I don't see that happening anytime in the near future
[09:48] <Jucato> you can't have a distro  without repositories, online or offline. unless of course it's LFS :)
[09:49] <Voyage_> Jucato dwidmann well if it does happens and i persist using ubuntu. what about synaptic use the ?
[09:49] <Voyage_> then*
[09:49] <Jucato> 1) you will have to use other 3rd-party repos or 2) you will have to use a different distro
[09:49] <Jucato> Synaptic is not bound to a single distro or repo
[09:50] <dwidmann> The odds of Ubuntu disappearing are relatively low ... popularity-wise Ubuntu is like a people-oriented (as opposed to commercial oriented) Red Hat
[09:50] <Jucato> (in fact, PCLinuxOS uses it)
[09:50] <Jucato> the odds of Ubuntu not supporting their own official repositories are even lower, close to none
[09:50] <Voyage_> Jucato so i cant asure that other party repos will work fine with ubuntu
[09:50] <Jucato> depends. if those repos were made to work for Ubuntu
[09:51] <dwidmann> If Ubuntu disappeared off the face of the earth, I guess that would mean time to go back to Debian eh?
[09:51] <Voyage_> dwidmann ok
[09:51] <Jucato> Voyage_: the point is, you don't  have to worry about Synaptic. you can use it with any repository
[09:51] <Jucato> the problem would be if that repository works for the distro
[09:51] <Voyage_> hmm
[09:51] <Voyage_> what repos can work for ubuntu btw
[09:52] <Jucato> also, Ubuntu can't exist without the repositories. so if ever Ubuntu stopped supporting those, then it means Ubuntu stops working. Synaptic would be the least of your worries then
[09:52] <agn0stic> if I have a command installed in /usr/local/bin and "which command" outputs /usr/local/bin/command", but "command" makes bash spit: "/usr/bin/command no such f or d", anyone have any clue what's up? /usr/local/bin is in my path
[09:53] <Jucato> Voyage_: besides the official Ubuntu repositories? you'll have to look for them yourself. They usually say if the packages/repos work for Ubuntu
[09:54] <ardchoille> agn0stic: echo $PATH
[09:54] <Voyage_> Jucato why doesnt all repos work for all distros? whats the differnce. they are all linux
[09:54] <agn0stic> ardchoille:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games first thing i checked
[09:55] <dwidmann> Voyage_: different package format, built with dependencies on different versions of core programs (like the c libraries)
[09:56] <Voyage_> dwidmann no universal apps or libs?
[09:56] <ardchoille> Voyage_: Consider this: package! contains app!, which looks for deps in /path/A. But, the same app packaged for a different distro may look for its deps in /path/B.. different packaging/deps/optimisations.
[09:57] <Alarm> goodmorning,  i had a problem mounting my external usb hd . when i plug it in and turn it on , and try to enter in the partition i get: could not enter folder /media/win5 . i could only mount it with pmount /dev/sda1 . i did also add my user (alarm) to the plugdev group , and rebooted as well.
[09:57] <Alarm> in the fstab there was nothing listed about the /dev/sda1 device .
[09:57] <KevinAlaska> well I am off like a wild herd of turtles yet again.. cheers everyone
[09:57] <Alarm> when i mounted it with pmount /dev/sda1 , worked pretty well,. i could enter the partition,. but once i turned it of (even if i removed it safely) , and then turn it on again, i get again the same message . it is an ntfs drive
[09:57] <Alarm>  after reinstalling the OS . and just restoring my .kde directory, withought trying to do anything with my hd. i thought of trying to mount my external drive again. and for some strange reason i got again the same error "could not enter folder /media/win5" although i didnt enter that , neither did i create a win5 dir. which means that some information is kept in the .kde dir , but dont know where
[09:58] <dwidmann> Voyage_: the problem isn't differnet libs, just different versions of them, which tend to be incompatible
[10:00] <Voyage_> dwidmann ic.
[10:00] <Voyage_> why dont they use universal and latest ones. like windows.
[10:01] <dwidmann> Voyage_: different target audiences ... the latest "greatest" is more or less the opposite of the stable thing you'd expect for a server
[10:01] <Jucato> because this isn't windows. plain and simple
[10:02] <Voyage_> dwidmann ok. thanks. :)
[10:02] <Alarm> ok i found the file that contains that info
[10:02] <Alarm> /home/alarm/.kde/share/config/mediamanagerrc
[10:02] <Alarm> now i did delete the mediamanagerrc file and when i turn on my drive and try to enter it, i get the error: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[10:02] <Alarm> i suppose i have to add my user in the plugdev group ?
[10:03] <Jucato> (it should be by default already)
[10:04] <Alarm> Jucato,  that goes for me ?
[10:04] <Jucato> yep
[10:04] <Alarm> well u are right The user `alarm' is already a member of `plugdev'.
[10:05] <Alarm> so that has not to do with the hal-strage... error
[10:06] <Alarm> from what i see , kde didnt create the mediamanagerrc file again
[10:07] <Alarm> thats how the mediamanagerrc file looked like: http://mishu.eu.org/paste/view.php?id=3498
[10:10] <totoro> hi
[10:10] <JUV> yo
[10:10] <totoro> did somone can help me for a kde problem ?
[10:10] <JUV> sorry, I can't;p
[10:10] <Alarm> eheheh
[10:10] <JUV> I have some problems, too
[10:10] <Jucato> !someone | totoro
[10:10] <ubotu> totoro: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:11] <totoro> lol
[10:11] <totoro> Jucato: thanks ;)
[10:11] <Alarm> could i also please ask for asking something for the problem i got to ask about  ?
[10:11] <totoro> oki I'm look for the kde file how are all de X configuration, no the xorg.conf one
[10:12] <totoro> I'm sur that kde have is hown
[10:12] <Alarm> does anyone understand or my english is so bad ?
[10:12] <totoro> but I don't know where
[10:12] <Jucato> X is not really part of KDE. KDE sits on top of X. KDE doesn't have it's own xorg.conf. the one and only xorg.conf is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:13] <Alarm> Jucato,  i suppose he means all the apperance settings configuration, fonts and stuff like that
[10:13] <totoro> Jucato:  oky but why they have so difference betwenn the Xorg.conf and what display KDE ?
[10:13] <Jucato> I couldn't really understand him...
[10:14] <totoro> Alarm: thanks it was that ;)
[10:14] <totoro> Jucato: sorry ...
[10:14] <Jucato> what language by the way? maybe there's a kubuntu channel for it
[10:18] <totoro> sorry for my english writing ...
[10:24] <gastly> !ubotu kubuntu
[10:24] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[10:28] <Alarm> good :)
[10:38] <MurDoGG> hello
[10:38] <MurDoGG> everything all right
[10:39] <MurDoGG> i've a problem with my nvidia driver
[10:43] <MurDoGG> since the update to kernel version 2.6.20-16 i had problems with my wlan adapter, i solved this problem, the script /sbin/ipw3945d-2.6.20-16-generic is restricted, so i have to fix this and my intel wlan adapter works well, but this happen when KDE starts
[10:43] <MurDoGG> Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-9755, but
[10:43] <MurDoGG> this X module has the version 1.0-9639.  Please make sure that the kernel
[10:43] <MurDoGG> if i made modprobe -r nvidia and start the kde with the kdm script everything works well
[10:44] <MurDoGG> have someone a idea how fix this fu***** (sorry ;) problem
[10:45] <[nk] > guten morgen :)
[10:45] <MurDoGG> moin
[10:57] <MurDoGG> everyone sleeping ^^
[10:58] <MurDoGG> :)
[11:02] <Tm_T> MurDoGG: how did you install nvidia driver?
[11:02] <ardchoille> I'm betting it wasn't via the pm
[11:03] <MurDoGG> manual
[11:03] <Tm_T> it wasn't
[11:03] <Tm_T> MurDoGG: exactly
[11:03] <ardchoille> MurDoGG: That's why you're having this problem.
[11:03] <MurDoGG> okay but how can i fix it and why the problem appears
[11:04] <Tm_T> MurDoGG: well, because you did install manually, every upgrade in repositories write over your installation
[11:04] <ardchoille> !nvidia
[11:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:04] <Tm_T> MurDoGG: so, kernel module got upgraded, but because you didn't install nvidia X drivers from package, it didn't
[11:04] <Tm_T> MurDoGG: so, you have now version mismatch
[11:05] <Alarm> ow can i fix the "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 " error when trying to mount me external ntfs hd drive under kde ?
[11:05] <Alarm> i found that some settings are stored in the .kde/share/config/mediamanagerrc file , but cant figure out what should be changed there
[11:05] <Alarm> when changing automount=true , to automount=false i get the error "could not enter /media/win5 (the direcotry that is listed in the same file)
[11:06] <MurDoGG> and what i have to do now
[11:08] <Tm_T> MurDoGG: humm, in that nvidia installer, there should be some uninstall foofoo
[11:08] <Tm_T> MurDoGG: then install nvidia packages from repositories
[11:09] <MurDoGG> is there no posibility to use the nvidia driver installing manually
[11:09] <ardchoille> MurDoGG: You can use it until, as you've seen, you update your kernel, then it no longer works. This is the reason we have a package meneger.. to keep packages in sync.
[11:09] <Tm_T> ardchoille: well said (:
[11:10] <ardchoille> MurDoGG: Your best bet now is to uninstall the driver you manually install, then use the package manager to install it correctly, as Tm_T suggested.
[11:10] <MurDoGG> okay i try how i deinstall the driver
[11:11] <Tm_T> MurDoGG: any particular reason to have manually installed?
[11:11] <ardchoille> you need to read the accompanying documentation to find out how to uninstall it
[11:11] <waltercool> how can i block installation of packages with gnome dependences?
[11:12] <Tm_T> waltercool: hum, why should you, just don't install them
[11:12] <waltercool> Tm_T: But idk all packages dependences... and sometimes... when im installing a package... install it
[11:12] <waltercool> i hate gnome
[11:13] <Tm_T> waltercool: then just don't install those packages
[11:13] <waltercool> But... why kubuntu comes with some gnome libs installed?
[11:13] <Tm_T> waltercool: hum?
[11:14] <ardchoille> waltercool: Which libs?
[11:14] <waltercool> i cant remember... but i remove it... and this libs remove me kde xOO
[11:14] <Tm_T> waltercool: that doesn't make much sense
[11:15] <waltercool> yeah... i know... but test u in adept
[11:15] <waltercool> xD
[11:15] <MurDoGG> i look at www.nvidia.com for documentation but there is only a installing documentation
[11:15] <Tm_T> trust me, kde won't go away taking gnome libs
[11:15] <waltercool> is not dependent??
[11:16] <waltercool> but... for example... i know about knetworkmanager depends of networkmanager
[11:16] <Tm_T> waltercool: gnome libs are definately NOT dependency of KDE
[11:16] <Jucato> waltercool: it would be better if you could use pastebin to show the errors you receive while trying to install something (use apt-get instead of adept)
[11:16] <waltercool> and networkmanager depends of gnome libs
[11:16] <ardchoille> no, they are two seperate desktops
[11:16] <Tm_T> waltercool: knetworkmanager is not KDE
[11:16] <waltercool> is gnome?
[11:16] <Jucato> actually, knetworkmanager is *just* a KDE frontend to networkmanager
[11:16] <ardchoille> waltercool: I uninstalled networkmanager and kde is still running fine
[11:17] <Tm_T> Jucato: yup, a single piece of app (:
[11:17] <waltercool> but... how u conect it to internet?
[11:17] <Tm_T> heh
[11:17] <Jucato> manually? some other network app?
[11:17] <ardchoille> Don't know, been connected 24/7
[11:17] <ardchoille> kubuntu does it for me.
[11:18] <Jucato> btw? who said networkmanager depends on gnome libs?
[11:18] <ardchoille> waltercool:
[11:18] <waltercool> yes?
[11:18] <Jucato> it isn't
[11:18] <ardchoille> I was answering Jucato's question
[11:19] <waltercool> xD... Jucato, are u sure of that?
[11:19] <Jucato> http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/net/network-manager
[11:19] <waltercool> lol
[11:20] <waltercool> Jucato: rarely... in sabayon... it depends of gnome libs...
[11:21] <ardchoille> lol
[11:21] <Tm_T> what is sabayon?
[11:21] <Jucato> Italian for "can't install Gentoo"
[11:21] <waltercool> xDDD
[11:21] <Jucato> (same as Ubuntu is African for "can't install Debian")
[11:21] <waltercool> Is a distro
[11:22] <Tm_T> waltercool: now you're lying
[11:22] <eagles0513875> !xDDD
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xddd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <Jucato> perhaps sabayon installs the GNOME frontend of networkmanager automatically as well
[11:22] <Tm_T> waltercool: there's no other distros than Ubuntu
[11:22] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:22] <Jucato> Tm_T: Sabayon Linux...
[11:22] <eagles0513875> sabayon suxs balls
[11:22] <waltercool> xDDD... is not bad... but is too slow
[11:22] <Jucato> !language
[11:22] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:22] <eagles0513875> i tried it on this machine im on but the x is fucked up i couldnt get to the desktop
[11:22] <eagles0513875> sry
[11:23] <eagles0513875> freebsd looks like a nice distro
[11:23] <Jucato> waltercool: the point is, we're in Kubuntu. and as far as I can see, knetworkmanager doesn't depend on any GNOME lib
[11:23] <eagles0513875> honestly though
[11:23] <eagles0513875> im in love with kubuntu
[11:23] <waltercool> Jucato: Yeah... im learning now :)
[11:24] <waltercool> Jucato: I like distros 100% KDE :)
[11:24] <eagles0513875> whose wedding jucato lol
[11:24] <eagles0513875> i hate gnome lol
[11:24] <Jucato> eagles0513875: yours and Kubuntu's
[11:24] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:24] <eagles0513875> meaning i love it ovr any other distro
[11:24] <waltercool> In adept... the kubuntu icon says KDE app?
[11:24] <Jucato> jokes aren't meant to be rationalized, you know?
[11:24] <Jucato> no
[11:24] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:25] <Jucato> Kubuntu icon means = officially supported by Canonical/Ubuntu (a.k.a. main and restricted)
[11:25] <eagles0513875> anyone know much bout BOINC and 64bit related issues
[11:26] <waltercool> mmm... ic... and app-install-data is a kde or gnome app? because in description says some about GNOME App Installer, but uninstalling it, Adept uninstall me 6 kde apps :S
[11:27] <eagles0513875> i agree admiral
[11:27] <Jucato> waltercool: both Kubuntu and Ubuntu need it for, guess what, application installation data
[11:27] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: hush... too many rivals :)
[11:27] <Admiral_Chicago> might be Debian related.
[11:28] <Admiral_Chicago> hehe, I'm off to bed anyways.
[11:28] <Jucato> hahah!
[11:28] <Admiral_Chicago> @now Chicago
[11:28] <ubotu> Current time in America/Chicago: June 14 2007, 04:28:16 - Next meeting: Ubuntu Development Team in 6 hours 31 minutes
[11:28] <waltercool> Mmm... ic, so i dont wanna touch... right?
[11:28] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: soon you'll be living my timezone
[11:28] <Jucato> waltercool: right
[11:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: exactly...i'll be over for dinner next friday btw.
[11:29] <eagles0513875> !time
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:29] <waltercool> Jucato: :) U know a lot of kubuntu... i see
[11:29] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: lol :)
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> okay i'm off for real not
[11:30] <Jucato> for real not... talk about oxymorons :)
[11:30] <Jucato> waltercool: no. not enough... not yet.... :/
[11:30] <Shadowrunner> so guy i uninstall the nvidia driver and install the glx driver from the packages now i have this problem
[11:31] <waltercool> Jucato: Lol... but sufficient for help a lot of people xD
[11:31] <Shadowrunner> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[11:32] <Shadowrunner> sorry no that is the wrong one ^^
[11:38] <_4strO> yop
[11:39] <magi_> hi, everyone. Does anyone know how to play APE file in the KDE environment? Thanks!
[11:40] <eagles0513875> convert them to flac magi
[11:46] <eagles0513875> !dapp
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dapp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <sanelson> hello... kubntu has set my keyboard incorrectly; if I run loadkeys uk, though, i get an error:
[11:48] <sanelson> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[11:48] <sanelson> i'm not using ay of the kde stuff, so I can't browse to a gui-fix-your-keyboard-setting thing
[11:49] <sanelson> unless someone knows what the program is called, and i can run it from a shell
[11:51] <kadaz> does anyone play torcs?
[11:52] <kadaz> how come I can only see partial car, inside view
[11:52] <kadaz> sanelson
[11:52] <kadaz> !keyboard
[11:52] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[11:53] <sanelson> thanks
[11:54] <kadaz> no thank you for asking me a question, so I can offer my help.
[11:54] <kadaz> wait, I meant yes, thank you
[11:55] <ardchoille> sanelson: Do you have kcontrol installed?
[11:59] <sanelson> sed -e '/kbLayout/s/us/gb/' < /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak > /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:59] <sanelson> did the trick
[11:59] <sanelson> although now my right alt key is different, so my xmodmaprc needs to be changed
[12:03] <kadaz> you worked the advice, great !@
[12:16] <alexander_> greetings...
[12:16] <alexander_> anybody here?
[12:16] <alexander_> does anyone know whether mac is based on unix or not???
[12:17] <pag> alexander_, afaik it's based on BSD (which I think is based on unix)
[12:17] <Jucato> alexander_: the kernel is based on *BSD (don't know which). this might not be the best place to ask about this
[12:19] <alexander_> ^^... do you know a chatroom or something where i could ask people about these things?
[12:21] <jussi01> alexander_: its bsd based IIRC
[12:22] <ardchoille> In 1999, Apple introduced a new operating system, Mac OS X Server 1.0 (codenamed Rhapsody), with a new GUI and powerful Unix underpinnings. Its NeXT-like GUI left many Mac users disappointed, and wondering what the next generation of the Mac OS GUI would look like. Mac OS X was based on OPENSTEP, the operating system developed by Steve Jobs post-Apple company, NeXT.
[12:22] <ardchoille> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh
[12:23] <alexander_> ok... thank you...
[12:23] <jussi01> alexander_:  /join ##mac maybe
[12:23] <ardchoille> From 2001, the classic Mac OS was phased out in favor of the new BSD Unix-based Mac OS X.
[12:24] <magi_> well, I've tried a lot, but how to convert ape to flac?
[12:24] <alexander_> so we can say the "mother-OS" for Linux distros and Macintosh --> is unix
[12:25] <pawitp> Linux does not contain unix codes though
[12:25] <AgarFu> hi
[12:25] <AgarFu> Riddell are you there?
[12:25] <ardchoille> !soundkonverter | magi_
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundkonverter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <AgarFu> I'm from La Laguna
[12:25] <ardchoille> !info soundkonverter
[12:25] <Riddell> AgarFu: mm hmm
[12:26] <ubotu> soundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 365 kB, installed size 1456 kB
[12:26] <AgarFu> I'm not able to open a private chat
[12:26] <ardchoille> magi_: Try soundkonverter
[12:26] <AgarFu> there is no problem with your wishes
[12:26] <AgarFu> I'll cover the expenses of your travel
[12:26] <magi_> thanks a lot
[12:26] <magi_> i will have a try
[12:26] <AgarFu> and accomodation here while the confference
[12:27] <AgarFu> ridell maybe jabber?
[12:27] <alexander_> you know... i ask these questions because i want to hold a presentation about operating systems in general so i could need some help ^^...
[12:27] <AgarFu> my jabberID is agarfu@jabber.org
[12:29] <pawitp> alexander_: read unix, linux, macintosh, windows history on wikipedia
[12:29] <ardchoille> alexander_: Yeah, lots of good ifo there.
[12:29] <alexander_> ok.. so there are no other operating systems for computers...
[12:29] <magi_> ardchoille: i think it does not work.
[12:30] <pawitp> alexander_: DOS, and other if you go beyond x86
[12:30] <ardchoille> magi_: I have soundkonverter installed and I am seeing that it can convert ape to flac
[12:31] <alexander_> uhuh...
[12:31] <alexander_> k
[12:31] <Jucato> AgarFu: just register your nick and you can send private messages in freenode
[12:31] <magi_> ardchoille: oh, but I used "add files" and still cannot find ape can be opened.
[12:31] <AgarFu> let's try ...
[12:32] <ardchoille> magi_: You have to install an encoder/decoder for each file type you want to convert.
[12:33] <magi_> ardchoille: how can I do that? by aptitude?
[12:34] <ardchoille> magi_: Open the preferences dialog and look in the plugins section
[12:34] <magi_> ardchoille: yes i've seen that, the "mac" program is missing, but how can I install that?
[12:35] <magi_> ardchoille: i did not found it in aptitude.
[12:35] <eagles0513875> j/w what do i do if there is a package in a repository which id out of date
[12:36] <ardchoille> magi_: Hmm.. I don't know, you'll have to search the repos for ape or mac plugins. It shows the mp3(lame) plugin and I know that plugin can be installed from the repos.
[12:37] <ardchoille> magi_: Click on a plugin in the preferences and click the "About" button, it tells you where to get the plugin: http://www.monkeysaudio.com .
[12:37] <jussi01> eagles0513875: file a bug on Launchpad
[12:37] <magi_> ardchoille: i'm sorry, but what is the repos?
[12:37] <jussi01> !repos
[12:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:37] <ardchoille> !repos
[12:37] <jussi01> :P
[12:37] <ardchoille> :)
[12:38] <magi_> well, well, let me see......
[12:38] <eagles0513875> its the boinc client that is out of date
[12:38] <eagles0513875> manager i mean
[12:39] <jussi01> eagles0513875: just check that there isnt a bug already, then file a new one!
[12:39] <jussi01> eagles0513875: https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[12:39] <eagles0513875> ok
[12:40] <magi_> ardchoille: well, I think I know that and I always put that correct, without realizing what it is ^_^
[12:40] <magi_> ardchoille: I tried to get plugins in "settings" dialog, but I cannot refresh the list...
[12:41] <ardchoille> magi_: Click on a plugin in the preferences and click the "About" button, it tells you where to get the plugin: http://www.monkeysaudio.com .
[12:41] <eagles0513875> im having a really tough time installing the latest version of boinc can anyone help me
[12:42] <magi_> ardchoille: yes, I went to that site, but found windows version of the program only...
[12:44] <ardchoille> magi_: You're right. I wonder why a Linux dev sends you to a site that only has Windows .exe's
[12:49] <magi_> ardchoille: well, well, I don't know.
[12:52] <icecruncher> hi, how can I play an m4h file?
[12:53] <icecruncher> sorry, i mean the .m4a
[12:53] <ardchoille> icecruncher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:05] <DexterF> hi
[01:05] <DexterF> compiling an app requieres X includes.
[01:05] <animimotus> hi
[01:05] <DexterF> in which package would I find those?
[01:06] <animimotus> instead of reboot, could I free my mem ?
[01:06] <animimotus> the cache seems full, firefox is so glutton
[01:11] <DexterF> animimotus: what's the story?
[01:11] <BluesKaj> what app are you compiling DexterF ?
[01:11] <DexterF> BluesKaj: mplayerthumbs, konq tooltip video previewer
[01:11] <animimotus> DexterF: my pc reactes slowly
[01:11] <animimotus> the mem and cache seems full...
[01:11] <DexterF> animimotus: that's how linux works in case you didn't know: all the RAM not used by any programs is used for caching - a megabyte unused is a megabyte wasted
[01:11] <DexterF> so most likely your machine actually is just slow
[01:11] <DexterF> how much RAM do you have?
[01:11] <animimotus> DexterF: 1 Go...
[01:11] <BluesKaj> DexterF, I suppose you already have build-essential for compiling and perhaps you may need some of these: libdvdcss2,xine-extracodecs and ffmpeg
[01:11] <DexterF> hm. more than sufficient for standard tasks. ever been this slow or since recently?
[01:11] <DexterF> BluesKaj: yup.
[01:13] <BluesKaj> animimotus, is it just slow using a browser , or just slow in general ?
[01:14] <animimotus> BluesKaj: till I have open a lot tabs in FF :)
[01:14] <animimotus> I have closed a lot of them
[01:15] <animimotus> but the system is not quick as usually
[01:16] <BluesKaj> !IPv6
[01:16] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:16] <BluesKaj> animimotus, maybe disabling IPv6 and reverting to IPv4 will speed up browsing
[01:17] <oswaldo> someone know If avantfax is a hylafax client?
[01:24] <BluesKaj> oswaldo, check this out: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=535536&page=2
[01:27] <animimotus> killall firefox-bin
[01:28] <BluesKaj> that's just a temporary solution
[01:28] <BluesKaj> might screw up the browser
[01:30] <thernymous> i have this problem.. where the kde sound system stops responding after a while.. ie, artsd is still running, but sounds from programs using the sound system won't output.. no error messages are displayed.. nothing seemingly triggers it (using 7.04) (on a side note.. i did set the automatic interrupt of the sound system (in system settings) to 0 seconds.. might that be related?)
[01:34] <drkns> hello fellas
[01:34] <drkns> i have 2 problems
[01:35] <drkns> one is that amarok stopped working no error messages nothing
[01:35] <drkns> and i cannot play original dvds
[01:35] <drkns> kafein says i have not enough rights
[01:38] <BluesKaj> drkns, install libdvdcss2, ffmpeg and xine-extracodecs
[01:39] <BluesKaj> !libdvdcss2
[01:39] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:45] <wsjunior> whats the diff among ksynaptics and qsynaptics?
[01:46] <wsjunior> i have i problem here. the scroll function of the touchpad works only for some time. after some time it doesnt work and i need to restart X to have it working again
[01:47] <eagles0513875> !apt-fix
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[01:47] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:00] <wsjunior> !synaptics
[02:00] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[02:02] <main2> with the latest two kerrnels available for feisty (dunno about any earlier..) im receiving > [   17.881222]  ACPI Exception (processor_core-0783): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor Device is not present [20070126] 
[02:02] <main2> [   17.881361]  ACPI Exception (processor_core-0783): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor Device is not present [20070126] 
[02:02] <main2> i have this with latest kernel from kernel.org as well
[02:02] <main2> where should i complain :P, launchpad?
[02:02] <main2> kernel mailinglists?
[02:10] <makuseru> what terminal based program can i use to extract .zip's?
[02:11] <makuseru> !.zip
[02:11] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[02:12] <pag> makuseru, have you tried unzip file.zip  ?
[02:13] <makuseru> i cant get unzip to accept wildcards
[02:14] <BluesKaj> !zip
[02:14] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[02:23] <_RadioHead> hi
[02:23] <_RadioHead> i can`t configure nothing fomr kubuntu user,when i give a passwd i got error message password incorrect
[02:24] <_RadioHead> where can i change this so i can use kdesu su ?
[02:24] <_RadioHead> for su already did
[02:33] <DexterF> awesome. so I hear about this app ( http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=41180 ) can't find it in official repositories, hammer away an hour learning how to solve build dependencies and such and then after compiling scroll down the page and see there's a feisty deb :P
[02:33] <oswaldo> someone know If for put avantfax on, there is that take file hylafax?
[02:36] <BluesKaj> oswaldo, check this out: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=535536&page=2
[02:39] <BluesKaj> DexterF, it has happened to all of us ...but practice is always good too :)
[02:40] <DexterF> indeed. building debs sure is more work than building a slackware tgz, but it pays off imo
[02:43] <soulrider_> _RadioHead: dont use the root account
[02:51] <kubuntu> hendaus : hi
[02:56] <Boje> moin!
[02:56] <sivaji> hendaus : hi
[02:57] <BluesKaj> sivaji, he's not really here
[02:57] <sivaji> BluesKaj ok
[02:59] <BluesKaj> there are hundreds of ppl joining the room , but never utter a word ... interesting
[02:59] <BluesKaj> mostly lurkers
[03:00] <jussi01> BluesKaj: people probably have this room on auto login
[03:00] <jussi01> like i do...
[03:01] <BluesKaj> no doubt jussi01 , but why bother ?
[03:02] <BluesKaj> and me
[03:02] <jussi01> BluesKaj: its nice to be able to drop in when you have a sec and help some one, or just have it ready if you need it...
[03:04] <BluesKaj> and ppl adding underscores to their nicks...what's that about ?
[03:06] <Jucato> BluesKaj: Konversation is automatically configured to setup 3 nicks per user. user, user_, user__
[03:06] <Jucato> when you get disconnected and your ghost remains, it automatically uses the available alternate nicks
[03:07] <BluesKaj> heh, mine won't let me back in
[03:07] <BluesKaj> it tells me I'm already there
[03:08] <Jucato> what IRC client?
[03:08] <Jucato> maybe you don't have alternate nicks setup?
[03:08] <BluesKaj> konversation
[03:09] <Jucato> that must be it, then...
[03:09] <_RadioHead> yo DexterF
[03:09] <_RadioHead> :)
[03:09] <DexterF> _RadioHead: hey :D what are _you_ doing here?
[03:09] <_RadioHead> soulrider_: i need to configure some stuff oon kde dude but i cant
[03:10] <_RadioHead> DexterF: :)mi install kubuntu for a friend :)
[03:10] <_RadioHead> and want to configure xgl and some other things :)
[03:10] <DexterF> beryl?
[03:11] <_RadioHead> DexterF: well usualy as i do in slackware i do from kcontrol :) but dont know how can i do on kubuntu
[03:11] <DexterF> question rather was what do you wanna do with xgl?
[03:12] <_RadioHead> DexterF: me nothing :) only my friend ask me to configure he like xgl and movement on xgl :)
[03:12] <DexterF> "movement"...? doesnt make sense
[03:12] <BluesKaj> Jucato, searched thru konverstion config and i don't see any "alternate nick" options
[03:13] <_RadioHead> ah DexterF u know effectr when u move konsole,konqueror over the desktop...
[03:13] <Jucato> BluesKaj: Press F8
[03:13] <Jucato> or Settings -> Identities
[03:13] <DexterF> _RadioHead: beryl. like i said. install that and beryl-manager, enable composite in xorg.conf and add them options. google.
[03:13] <ubuntu> Que contrasea trae por defecto el usuario root de kubuntu?
[03:14] <DexterF> !es
[03:14] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:14] <_RadioHead> DexterF: i will but only other thing is when i wanna do something like root i can`t with kdesu wrong passwd ...
[03:14] <ubuntu> tanks!
[03:14] <BluesKaj> ok added alternate nicks with underscores
[03:15] <_RadioHead> DexterF: i think i must change something on pam.d/*
[03:15] <Jucato> BluesKaj: lol! they don't need to have underscores :)
[03:15] <BluesKaj> then they'd all be the same
[03:15] <sivaji2009> !distro
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:16] <DexterF> _RadioHead: I'd get you better if used some ,,,,,,,, now and then
[03:16] <BluesKaj> I'm using the same nick, Jucato ...i never change
[03:16] <Jucato> BluesKaj: what I mean that you can have different nicks like BluesKaj, not-blueskaj :)
[03:16] <DexterF> _RadioHead: ah, now. you can set a root passwd with sudo passwd iirc. but root can run X apps, just fire i tup from a konsole
[03:17] <DexterF> or sudo su - , then passwd..?
[03:17] <BluesKaj> no, it's BluesKaj_ and _BluesKaj
[03:27] <DexterF> _RadioHead: gtg, hf and use the help docs on the net, they're quite good
[03:27] <_RadioHead> DexterF: i change root passwd BUT when i wat to run something as a root on kde loged in as normal user i cant , always i got wrong passwd , it is due to PAM
[03:27] <_RadioHead> DexterF: see ya dude :)
[03:29] <_RadioHead> how can i tell apt-get to download package from internet
[03:29] <_RadioHead> ?
[03:30] <jussi01> _RadioHead: where else would it download it from?
[03:31] <_RadioHead> jussi01: i run apt-get install beryl and nothing it say i cant find pkg
[03:32] <jussi01> _RadioHead: I assume you have internet connection (your here)... are your sources correct? do you have universe and multiverse switched on?
[03:33] <_RadioHead> jussi01: when i install kubuntu i did without internet ... now i setup network and yes i have internet but can`t find beryl do i need to add sources? or
[03:33] <_RadioHead> ?
[03:33] <_RadioHead> and what do i need to configure to use kdesu ?
[03:34] <jussi01> _RadioHead: go to adept, select manage repositories from the menu and make sure that they are all ticked...
[03:34] <_RadioHead> jussi01: moment sshing on kubuntu
[03:34] <weswh-> I am trying to get Azureus running. I followed these steps first, to configure Java: http://www.tracyphillips.com/2007/05/03/how-to-install-java-on-ubuntu-fiesty-fawn/
[03:35] <weswh-> but when i load Azureus, it automatically closes after it loads. How can I check any debug output in a terminal?
[03:41] <BluesKaj> weswh-, I hate to tell you this but ktorrent is much more stable and has just as many options and takes up a lot less resources than the java-based azureus , so whynot just switch ?
[03:41] <[nk] _> weswh-: I had the same problem with a fresh install of feisty
[03:43] <lili> nc
[03:43] <[nk] _> weswh-: after fetching sun's java and all that, I just fetched the latest azureus 2.5 from http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
[03:43] <weswh-> BluesKaj: I love Ktorrent. Unfortunately 2 of the torrent sites I use claim that it reports bad data to the tracker.
[03:43] <weswh-> [nk] _: cool, thanks
[03:43] <[nk] _> just extracted azureus to ~/azureus/ and run it from there
[03:43] <weswh-> you are using java 6?
[03:44] <BluesKaj> which sites weswh-?
[03:44] <ivan__> hola buenas tardes
[03:44] <ivan__> speak spanish?
[03:44] <BluesKaj> !es | ivan__
[03:44] <ubotu> ivan__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:45] <ivan__> fabian__:
[03:45] <ivan__> fabian__:  hablas espaol
[03:45] <BluesKaj> ivan__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda
[03:46] <ivan__> need configure my root in my kubuntu
[03:48] <Daisuke_Ido> weswh-: the king of music trackers allows it, you should tell the admins of the trackers that disallow it to remove their heads from their collective rear ends.
[03:50] <weswh-> [nk] : I downloaded and extracted 2.5 - how do I run it? I tried clicking on the .jar, not it.
[03:50] <[nk] > oh
[03:51] <weswh-> ah, I see the shell script now
[03:51] <[nk] >  /home/username/azureus/azureus
[03:52] <weswh-> heh. well it loaded at least. then had to kill the process.
[03:52] <[nk] > you can just edit the Azureus shortcut
[03:52] <[nk] > did it freeze or something?
[03:52] <weswh-> yeah. the window came up that said "loading details", never made it to the other side
[03:53] <[nk] > neat!
[03:53] <[nk] > I had the package manager remove the version of azureus that comes with feisty
[03:53] <alexander_> I regret to inform that None of our All in one printers does not support K-/u Buntu operating system. (email reply on a support mail)
[03:54] <weswh-> can you remind me of the package syntax for remove?
[03:54] <alexander_> sent by lexmark
[03:54] <cr1ss> can someone help me install avant window navigator in my ubuntu ?
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> alexander_: that about sums it up
[03:54] <[nk] > weswh-: apt-get remove azureus
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> lexmark = junk
[03:55] <Daisuke_Ido> and their printers are dirt cheap.  HP's a little more expensive, but supported
[03:55] <alexander_> hmm...
[03:56] <alexander_> i know
[03:56] <Daisuke_Ido> and if that's the actual text from a lexmark employee, i don't want to buy their product anyway.  if they don't even do QA on support replies, whay makes me think they do QA on their products?
[03:58] <alexander_> I regret to inform that None of our All in one printers does not support K-/u Buntu operating system.
[03:58] <alexander_> If you have any more questions or concerns, please contact me at your convenience and I will be happy to assist you. (If I am not available, another representative will reply to you as soon as possible.) To respond, please select "Reply" in your e-mail software, and be sure that the past e-mail is included in this reply.
[03:58] <alexander_> [AOL Users: In order to include the previous e-mail, you must highlight it with your mouse when you are replying.] 
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[03:58] <alexander_> that is the rest of the mail
[03:58] <Jucato> !paste
[03:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:58] <alexander_> oh sry
[04:07] <weswh-> [nk] : hey I got it working. thanks a bunch
[04:09] <[nk] > weswh-: no prob!
[04:17] <wsjunior> i just noticed that konqueror doesnt open some things that i dont know how to name so here is the screenshots of the same part of a webpage with firefox and konqueror:
[04:17] <wsjunior> firefox: http://aycu09.webshots.com/image/17968/2005611778074126193_rs.jpg
[04:17] <wsjunior> konqueror: http://aycu35.webshots.com/image/17434/2005637919203213032_rs.jpg
[04:18] <wsjunior> what's going on?
[04:20] <Daisuke_Ido> konqueror doesn't support something that firefox does
[04:20] <Daisuke_Ido> use FF for now
[04:20] <wsjunior> it seems its called bbcode
[04:20] <wsjunior> is it supported by konqueror?
[04:21] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not the bbcode that's not supported, it's the editor
[04:22] <Jucato> it's the WYSIWYG editor. Konqueror rarely supports those well
[04:22] <wsjunior> by editor u mean this format, align and other buttons, right?
[04:22] <Daisuke_Ido> all of that, yes
[04:22] <Jucato> by editor he means the whole thing
[04:23] <Jucato> WYSIWYG = What You See Is What You Get
[04:23] <wsjunior> so there's no way to make it work with konqueror, right?
[04:23] <wsjunior> damn :'(
[04:24] <wsjunior> first it doesnt support google services and now this..
[04:24] <Jucato> you can try changing the browser identification for that that particular site
[04:24] <wsjunior> i tried change it to firefox and ie
[04:24] <wsjunior> but didnt work :(
[04:24] <Jucato> hm.. konqueror supports gmail, a bit of google talk, docs (I think), calendar
[04:24] <wsjunior> i meant its not fully compatible
[04:25] <Daisuke_Ido> wsjunior: konqueror is lacking on a few things, it just doesn't have the support for part of it, though i don't know the underlying workings so i couldn't tell you which part :D
[04:25] <wsjunior> is there any qt port of firefox?
[04:25] <Jucato> kjs, for your ajax problems
[04:25] <Jucato> no
[04:25] <wsjunior> i heard zack rusin had some related project..
[04:25] <wsjunior> is that true?
[04:25] <Jucato> there is none
[04:26] <Jucato> that's completely different
[04:26] <Jucato> and slightly more technical and controversial
[04:26] <wsjunior> what is his project about?
[04:26] <Jucato> webkit port to qt. and it really hasn't much to do with KDE (yet)
[04:26] <wsjunior> hum
[04:26] <Jucato> that's a project of Trolltech
[04:28] <dps> Hello
[04:28] <dps> Anyone as a problem with xorg not loading at start?
[04:28] <dps> I isntalled nvidia drivers
[04:29] <dps> Each time i start, i have to rmmod nvidia, and restart kdm
[04:29] <dps> it will load the nvidia module again
[04:29] <dps> i don't understant...
[04:30] <Dr_willis> it works the 2nd time?
[04:30] <wsjunior> this looks nice: http://konquefox.free.fr/
[04:30] <dps> yes
[04:30] <sparrw> dps: ive seen that before, dont remember the solution
[04:30] <BluesKaj> Konqueror as a browser needs flashplayer-nonfree and flashplugin-nonfree and the required java plugin players
[04:30] <Dr_willis> thats.. odd.
[04:30] <Minataku> lo, Dr_willis
[04:30] <Minataku> Your wife doing okay?
[04:30] <Dr_willis> yep shes up and doing a few things  then going back to bed..
[04:30] <Dr_willis> then yelling at me to do things..
[04:30] <Jucato> BluesKaj: hm.... so does Firefox...
[04:31] <dps> I had ubuntu installed... worked ok... on kubuntu, i did the exact same thing and doesn't work
[04:31] <Minataku> Good to hear... the "she's okay" part, that is
[04:31] <Minataku> The "yelling at you" part, not so good
[04:31] <Minataku> XD
[04:31] <sparrw> wsjunior: neat, but not nice.  putting unrelated features in the same extension is a horrible practice.  what if ive already got another extension that provides a 'go up' button?
[04:31] <Dr_willis> kubuntu and ubuntu both use the same core. So it shouldent matter there.
[04:31] <BluesKaj> yeah  Jucato , but some ppl still prefer konq ...dunno why
[04:31] <Dr_willis> dps,  you mean to say you Uninstalled Ubuntu and installed Kubuntu over it?
[04:31] <rjune> becauase it's a nice browser.
[04:31] <dps> Dr_willis: I know man,  i usually don't need help on this thingies... that's why i'm here
[04:31] <Jucato> BluesKaj: your "argument" makes no sense...
[04:31] <dps> I formated the disk
[04:32] <Minataku> Firefox has legitimate Flash and Java plugins
[04:32] <wsjunior> sparrw: true
[04:32] <Dr_willis> dps,  you do realize that there was no need to do that. You can have Kubuntu and Ubujntu both on the same install. :)
[04:32] <BluesKaj> not an argument Jucato, just what I've noticed ...I prefer FF as well
[04:32] <dps> Dr_willis: yes, i realize, but it was faster to reinstall
[04:32] <dps> Dr_willis: i had the cd here
[04:32] <Jucato> BluesKaj: I use Konq
[04:33] <wsjunior> sparrw: i liked mainly the file picker tricky
[04:33] <Minataku> At some time in the past, someone added to the Fx ebuild the option to grab and install Java with it
[04:33] <nahemoth> you guys have any idea about where I can find the "file association"
[04:33] <Dr_willis> I would have to say check the ubuntu/kubuntu forums - it maybe some odd bug with your video/motherboard.
[04:33] <sparrw> wsjunior: aye, ill be doing that
 Konqueror as a browser needs flashplayer-nonfree and flashplugin-nonfree and the required java plugin players + <BluesKaj> yeah  Jucato , but some ppl still prefer konq ...dunno why <--- doesn't make sense
[04:33] <Jucato> nahemoth: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror
[04:34] <mandal> fgh
[04:34] <DemonSamurai> anyone can tell me how to mount my 2nd ntfs drive please?
[04:34] <Minataku> About the only real "benefit" provided by Konq is that it's preloaded with KDE to launch faster (because it's already in memory)
[04:34] <Jucato> !ntfs | DemonSamurai
[04:34] <ubotu> DemonSamurai: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:34] <Minataku> I, however, consider this "benefit" a horrible misfeature
[04:34] <Minataku> Since it's just taking up RAM that could be better used elsewhere when Konq isn't running
[04:35] <nahemoth> Jucato:  thank you very much
[04:35] <dazjorz> ] dmix
[04:35] <Jucato> benefits of Konqi? close integration to KDE, KParts, kioslaves
[04:35] <dazjorz> dmix
[04:35] <dazjorz> :/
[04:35] <dazjorz> !dmix
[04:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:35] <dazjorz> ah, there
[04:35] <Jucato> Oo
[04:35] <Minataku> Jucato: Konq is to KDE as IE is to Windows
[04:35] <dps> Isn't the kdeteam dropping arts?
[04:35] <dps> in kde 4?
[04:36] <Minataku> That alone should make you seriously rethink Konq
[04:36] <Jucato> lol
[04:36] <Minataku> It's KDE's explorer.exe XD
[04:36] <Jucato> you are soooooooo out of it... but I don't want to argue with you
[04:36] <dps> Konqueror is very nice
[04:36] <dps> and opens faster...
[04:36] <Minataku> Oh, close integration with KDE, dual-use as browser and file manager... yeah, that's not IE
[04:37] <Jucato> hope you can roll it back down
[04:37] <Minataku> If you don't see the parallel, you're either blind or in denial
[04:37] <Dr_willis> the parallel makes it bad? I dont follow that logic.
[04:37] <dps> What's wront with  "close integration with KDE, dual-use as browser and file manager" ?
[04:38] <Minataku> Dr_willis: What it parallels TO makes it bad
[04:38] <Jucato> Minataku: if you don't know the difference. then you're ignorant
[04:38] <Jucato> nuff said. good bye
[04:38] <BluesKaj> all i said was s"ome ppl prefer konq and i dunno why "...is there an argument in that statement ...cuz i truly don't know why
[04:39] <Dr_willis> i still dont see the logic. :)
[04:39] <Minataku> I do know the difference, I just know that it sounds far too much like something I'd prefer to stay away from
[04:39] <Dr_willis> then again im tired.. :) so...
[04:39] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heh
[04:39] <dps> Minataku:  You seem my grandmother talking about computers
[04:39] <Minataku> Dr_willis: O.o
[04:39] <Minataku> Is that what your wife asked you to do? ;3
[04:39] <Dr_willis> She had me give her birds clean water.
[04:39] <Dr_willis> The silly cockateils.
[04:39] <dangbert> I need some help with a couple of problems.  The Alternate CD and my wireless network,  .  Lets take the wireless first.
[04:39] <BluesKaj> whoa now there's an insult
[04:39] <Dr_willis> Jumped right in the bowl.
[04:39] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heh
[04:40] <Minataku> My aunt trained her cockatiel to crap in an empty bowl
[04:40] <Minataku> The downside?
[04:40] <Minataku> He craps in all of them
[04:40] <admin__> admin_: Hello, Can you please change your nick, I always am normally admin_ on freenode.
[04:40] <Minataku> Including the ones with food and water
[04:40] <Minataku> It's rare, but he'll do it whenever so inclined
[04:40] <BluesKaj> everyone wants to be the boss :)...geez get a life
[04:41] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Better yet, "get a real nick"
[04:41] <Minataku> Am I right?
[04:41] <BluesKaj> hehe, yup
[04:41] <SlimeyPete> or just "register your nick and use the ghost command"
[04:41] <jussi01> yeah
[04:41] <Minataku> Anyway, fact of the matter is, I don't like Konq because it has qualities that I consider undesireable
[04:42] <BluesKaj> admin ...titles that mean nothing are still importanr to some ppl
[04:42] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Not to mention it's either "adm" or "sysadm" in Unix
[04:42] <Minataku> ;3
[04:43] <Minataku> Depending on the flavor you so choose
[04:43] <Minataku> XD
[04:43] <BluesKaj> Jucato seems kinda argumentative today
[04:43] <dangbert> I know you guys are having a great time, but could I break in long enough to ask a question?
[04:43] <jussi01> !offtopic
[04:43] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:43] <zipper> dangbert, try
[04:43] <Minataku> dangbert: Do we look like we're here to help!? Oh, wait... we are.
[04:43] <jussi01> dangbert: go ahead!
[04:43] <Minataku> Yeah, go ahead
[04:43] <jussi01> :P Minataku
[04:44] <Minataku> :3
[04:44] <llp78> When I shutdown - the PC hangs on the kubuntu screen and will not shutdown - how can i fond out whats causing this ?
[04:44] <dangbert> I have a wireless problem.  I can make it to the router  but not through
[04:44] <Minataku> llp78: /var/log/messages.old
[04:44] <Minataku> I believe
[04:44] <Minataku> Should be at the end
[04:44] <llp78> Minataku: ty ill have a look
[04:44] <Minataku> I'm guessing it's gonna be a case of ACPI not working
[04:44] <Minataku> It probably sends a poweroff command which never does anything
[04:45] <dazjorz> Hmm
[04:45] <Minataku> Either that or for some reason it's merely set to halt instead of poweroff, possibly due to lack of [working]  ACPI
[04:45] <dazjorz> UT2004 keeps saying /dev/dsp is in use
[04:45] <dazjorz> but lsof /dev/dsp gives no output
[04:45] <llp78> Minataku: dont have messages.old
[04:45] <dangbert> That is other problem - acpi
[04:45] <Minataku> llp78: Nuts
[04:45] <dazjorz> am I using the wrong command to check? :/
[04:45] <Minataku> dazjorz: Try fuser
[04:45] <WillLuongo> Hello all! Is it possible to reinstall KUbuntu without losing my settings, programs, etc?
[04:45] <llp78> Minataku: i have messages.0
[04:46] <zipper> after recovering Grub (after installing windows) i'm getting this error when starting up: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=37207
[04:46] <Minataku> llp78: That's probably it
[04:46] <Minataku> llp78: BTW
[04:46] <zipper> also gets it when running 'fsck'
[04:46] <Minataku> Does your computer force an fsck when it reboots?
[04:46] <Minataku> Rather, when you boot it back up after the theoretically failed shutdown?
[04:46] <llp78> Minataku doesnt force anything or reboot
[04:47] <zipper> it think it tries, but fails horribly. Also says something about "apt-get not installed. Run apt-get install apt to get it"
[04:47] <Minataku> It may be shutting down properly then just halting
[04:47] <BluesKaj> same here llp78, so Ive been doing the 3finger linux salute ,ctrl+alt+backspace, then choosing shutdown from the login menu
[04:47] <Minataku> llp78: Check the end of that messages.0
[04:47] <dazjorz> Minataku: Thanks, "fuser /dev/dsp" gives no output - that means it's not in use, right?
[04:47] <Minataku> dazjorz: Should mean that, yeah
[04:48] <navets> anyone here know how to get warcraft 3 working on wine?
[04:48] <Minataku> dazjorz: UNLESS
[04:48] <Minataku> It's being used by the kernel or something
[04:48] <Minataku> I just tried fuser /dev/sda and got nothing
[04:48] <sivaji2009> i wrote a shell program which create a copy of its own in a infinite loop will this prog affect  my ram ?
[04:48] <dazjorz> Minataku: That's odd, why would the *kernel* user /dev/dsp?
[04:49] <llp78> Minataku: sorry to sound soo stupid - but what am I looking for in the messages.0
[04:50] <llp78> Minataku: last line = exiting on signal 15
[04:50] <llp78> i think thats when i have to keep finger on pwr buttin to shut down
[04:50] <Minataku> dazjorz: It won't
[04:50] <Wipster> hey all, my eth0 is up appraently when I try to do ifup but its not showing in my network interfaces only my second one is
[04:50] <Minataku> llp78: What exited on signal 15?
[04:50] <Minataku> That would be SIGTERM
[04:51] <sivaji2009> jucato :
[04:51] <Minataku> I believe
[04:51] <dazjorz> $ ut2004
[04:51] <dazjorz> open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy
[04:51] <dazjorz> Minataku: It keeps saying that
[04:51] <BluesKaj> llp78, try ctrl+alt+backspace, then choosing shutdown from the login menu , see if that works
[04:51] <llp78> Minataku: desktop existed on signal 15
[04:51] <dazjorz> Minataku: When I do have sound, it doesn't say that
[04:51] <dazjorz> Minataku: /dev/sound doesn't exist, so it's /dev/dsp, but lsof says it's not in use
[04:51] <dazjorz> and so does fuser
[04:51] <Minataku> dazjorz: Well, I just typed "play somemp3ihavelayingaround.mp3" and did fuser on /dev/dsp and got nothing
[04:51] <dazjorz> od
[04:51] <dazjorz> d
[04:51] <sivaji2009> hendaus
[04:52] <Minataku> Of course, /dev/dsp is only there because of ALSA OSS emulation
[04:52] <Minataku> One sec
[04:52] <Minataku> Lemme keep investigating
[04:52] <dazjorz> Minataku: Thanks a lot
[04:53] <Minataku> YOU REEK-A!
[04:53] <Minataku> pcmC0D0p:            ed        27255 F...m sox
[04:53] <dazjorz> ?
[04:53] <Minataku> Rather, /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[04:53] <TuTuFF> does anyone percvhance know the Ubuntu equivalent of /etc/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules please?
[04:53] <Minataku> dazjorz: Try a fuser /dev/snd/*
[04:53] <dazjorz> kmix    5433 dazjorz   10u   CHR  116,7      13647 controlC0
[04:53] <dazjorz> Right!
[04:53] <dazjorz> kmix--
[04:53] <dangbert> Anyone having wireless problems?  All of a sudden, Kubuntu will not recognize my wireless card via automatic and will not log on.
[04:53] <Minataku> kmix is hogging up the sound
[04:53] <Minataku> dazjorz: Show it no mercy
[04:54] <dazjorz> Minataku: when I quit it, it says 'artsd' is using it
[04:54] <Minataku> Then do the same in UT2K4
[04:54] <Minataku> Yeah, zap that crap, too
[04:54] <Minataku> You can always restart it
[04:54] <BluesKaj> !wireless | dangbert
[04:54] <ubotu> dangbert: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:54] <Minataku> I hate those audio middlemen daemons
[04:54] <Minataku> All they do is hog up the devices
[04:54] <dazjorz> Minataku: it restarted -_-
[04:54] <Minataku> So anything that tries to use them directly gets told to piss off
[04:55] <Minataku> dazjorz: Bah!
[04:55] <Minataku> !artsd
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about artsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <Minataku> !arts
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <DemonSamurai> anyone ever run windows games like WoW or Lineage2 on Kubuntu?
[04:55] <dazjorz> there's nothing in /etc/init.d for arts to kill it
[04:55] <Minataku> Piece of crap
[04:55] <Minataku> dazjorz: That's because it's a KDE thing
[04:55] <dangbert> Thanks, and bye
[04:55] <Minataku> Got any other WMs? You probably have twm
[04:55] <Minataku> !info twm
[04:55] <ubotu> twm: Tab window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-4build1 (feisty), package size 93 kB, installed size 284 kB
[04:55] <Minataku> Optional
[04:55] <Minataku> Wonderful
[04:55] <dazjorz> Minataku: *gah*
[04:56] <dazjorz> Minataku: when I run ut2004, a loading window appears
[04:56] <Minataku> dazjorz: Good
[04:56] <dazjorz> then KDE restarts artsd just for the sound that always comes when a new window is made -_-
[04:56] <Minataku> dazjorz: I'm thinking get twm for launching stuff
[04:57] <Minataku> That way artsd and kmix and any of their little buddies can piss off
[04:57] <Minataku> twm is very minimalistic
[04:57] <Minataku> But all you'll be doing is launching UT2K4 from it
[04:57] <DemonSamurai> when i try to open Adept updater i put in the password and i get a message that says apt-get or aptitude much be in use
[04:57] <dazjorz> but then I'm going to have to close all of my windows just to run UT2K4
[04:57] <DemonSamurai>  but they are not help pls
[04:57] <dazjorz> which feels like rebooting to go to Windows to play a game, which sucks
[04:57] <Minataku> dazjorz: Crap
[04:58] <dazjorz> DemonSamurai: what happens when you run sudo apt-get update in a terminal?
[04:58] <Minataku> !sound
[04:58] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:58] <Minataku> ...
[04:58] <Minataku> UP YOURS
[04:58] <Minataku> ARTS running is the damn PROBLEM here
[04:58] <dazjorz> uhmm
[04:58] <Minataku> Check those links anyway, they might help
[04:58] <dazjorz> I'll disable the sound system ;)
[04:58] <dazjorz> in kcontrol
[04:59] <dazjorz> then it'll probably work
[04:59] <Minataku> Hopefully
[04:59] <Minataku> But then everything else will break
[04:59] <dazjorz> the files aren't in use anymore
[04:59] <DemonSamurai> i must manually run dpkg --configure -a to correct the problem
[05:00] <dazjorz> here goes nothing
[05:00] <Minataku> Since everything in Kubuntu is compiled to use artsd
[05:00] <dazjorz> DemonSamurai: use sudo dpkg if you're not root :)
[05:00] <Minataku> !adeptfix | DemonSamurai
[05:00] <ubotu> DemonSamurai: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:00] <BluesKaj> alsa rides on artsd ?
[05:00] <michael__> how do i find my usergroup?
[05:00] <Minataku> No
[05:00] <Minataku> artsd is just some lousy piece of crap middleman
[05:00] <Minataku> It hogs the devices
[05:00] <BluesKaj> for what apps Minataku ?
[05:00] <dazjorz> Minataku: Yay, it works, thanks a lot :)
[05:00] <dazjorz> Minataku++
[05:00] <Minataku> So anything wishing to play sound while it's running MUST run through it
[05:00] <Minataku> dazjorz: You're welcome
[05:00] <Minataku> If nothing else works now
[05:00] <Minataku> Reenable it
[05:01] <Minataku> The sound system, chances are you'll have to
[05:01] <Minataku> Which will lead to disabling it to run the game, and enabling it when you're done
[05:01] <dazjorz> Yeah, I'll reenable it when I'm done gaming ;)
[05:01] <Minataku> Just pray that ARTS is gone in KDE4
[05:01] <BluesKaj> if i'm using alsa ...is the artsdaemon running as well ?
[05:01] <Minataku> BluesKaj: No
[05:02] <BluesKaj> good!
[05:02] <Minataku> artsd is part of KDE
[05:02] <Minataku> It's the daemon for it's dumbass sound abstraction
[05:02] <Minataku> Like I said, it's only purpose is to piss people off by hogging the sound devices and making direct sound device access impossible
[05:03] <BluesKaj> sound abstarction? ...ok whatever that means :)
[05:03] <Dr_willis> BlueDevil,  thats the funky music these kids are listing to these days?
[05:04] <Minataku> I don't know why anyone bothers with it since it's KDE-specific and just jams up anything lacking an ARTS output driver
[05:04] <Minataku> Dr_willis: No, that's sound abberation
[05:04] <DemonSamurai> anyone can help me run Lineage II on linux?
[05:04] <Dr_willis> DemonSamurai,  check the wine/cedega forums/wikis yet?
[05:05] <DemonSamurai> Dr_willis gimme link pls
[05:05] <Dr_willis> google.com
[05:05] <Dr_willis> !wine
[05:05] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:05] <Dr_willis> wine or cedega is what you use to run windows apps.
[05:05] <Dr_willis> cedga is comercial and focused on games. A lot of games can work with wine now however.
[05:05] <DemonSamurai> i installed wine
[05:06] <DemonSamurai> but i cannot use anything from windows
[05:06] <Dr_willis> wine pathto/setup.exe
[05:06] <DemonSamurai> they are trying to run but nothing is running at the end
[05:06] <Dr_willis> you dont use stuff from your windows isntall.. you install it with wine.
[05:06] <Dr_willis> its possible that wine cant handle the game. its also possible that there may be some wine/game options that can make it work.
[05:06] <Minataku> You have to run it from the CLI
[05:07] <Minataku> "wine" as a command launches everything wine needs to function and finally the specified .exe
[05:07] <Dr_willis> using wine from the command line will alsy let you see any error messages it may be spitting out
[05:09] <sivaji2009> general question http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25552/
[05:12] <Minataku> Gonna test out Aurora Linux, I think
[05:12] <Minataku> Try it on my Ultra 1 with the bad CG6
[05:12] <Minataku> If I can stomach it
[05:12] <Minataku> What's supposed to be white is instead best described as "piss yellow"
[05:13] <DemonSamurai> anyone can tell me where to find codecs ? cause i cannot play mp3s or divx movies?
[05:13] <Minataku> !codecs
[05:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:13] <Dr_willis> !codecs
[05:13] <Dr_willis> !divx
[05:13] <Minataku> The codecs page SHOULD have all that info
[05:13] <Minataku> Knowing Ubuntu, though, who knows
[05:13] <Dr_willis> mp3 stuff is different from the needed video codecs also. :)
[05:13] <BluesKaj> hhmm, i can get some windows exe files to run their apps in wine
[05:14] <Dr_willis> wine is a gamble :)
[05:15] <Minataku> Dr_willis: It would be
[05:15] <Minataku> XD
[05:15] <jermain> i everyone
[05:15] <Minataku> Things like this are why I don't use *buntu and never will XD
[05:15] <Dr_willis> i noone :)
[05:16] <jermain> can someone tell me how to define in which directory on the server i want to put the file i want to upload
[05:16] <Dr_willis> I can honestly say - that ive rarely had any issues with ubuntu.. compared to some of these other disrtos ive fought with.
[05:16] <jermain> if i use a script with the ftp-command
[05:17] <Dr_willis> have the script cd to the right dir?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> or perhaps give the full path for the put ftp command.
[05:17] <jermain> hmm that sounds quite logical
[05:17] <jermain> thank you i'll try it
[05:18] <BluesKaj> Minataku, so what OS do you run ...gentoo?
[05:19] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Yeah
[05:19] <Dr_willis> MinatakuOS
[05:19] <Dr_willis> He has DistCC running on 10 VMS machines...
[05:20] <Dr_willis> and a PDP11
[05:20] <Minataku> Haha
[05:20] <Minataku> That'd be over the top even for ME
[05:20] <Minataku> XD
[05:22] <Dr_willis>  sudo apt-get install gentoo
[05:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:23] <BluesKaj> sure :)
[05:23] <Jucato> !info gentoo | Dr_willis
[05:23] <ubotu> dr_willis: gentoo: a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.55-1.1 (feisty), package size 764 kB, installed size 2432 kB
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  yep - i use it all the time.
[05:23] <Jucato> no one's complaining about trademarks? hehehe
[05:23] <navets> can anyone here help me fix my video driver
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Its a DirectoryOpus Clone also. :) for ya old-amiga-addicts
[05:26] <BluesKaj> gentoo, an X file manager...since when ?
[05:26] <navets> can anyone here help me fix my video driver?
[05:26] <Jucato> BluesKaj: there really is an app named Gentoo...
[05:27] <Jucato> !anyone | navets
[05:27] <Daisuke_Ido> is it good?
[05:27] <StErGi0s> anyone knows why my mp3s sound a bit noisy?
[05:27] <BluesKaj> interesting Jucato , but it's always meant an OS to me
[05:28] <Jucato> BluesKaj: it will mean a kind of penguin to a biologist/zoologist...
[05:28] <BluesKaj> yes I got that
[05:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i've been looking for a good file manager...  konqueror and dolphin don't do it for me (and i absolutely despise dolphin)
[05:28] <Jucato> krusader?
[05:29] <Jucato> (btw, don't despise Dolphin till you tried it on KDE 4)
[05:29] <BluesKaj> dolphin doesn't have the right options IMO
[05:29] <Silent_G> hello, somebody can tell me what this error means? http://rafb.net/p/N9SuKo34.html
[05:29] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: fair enough, i'll wait to pass judgement :)
[05:29] <Jucato> if you're going to base it on the KDE 3 version. then definitely despise that version... :)
[05:30] <Daisuke_Ido> the kde3 version is truly terrible
[05:30] <Daisuke_Ido> it has problems even accessing mounted media :\
[05:30] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: that might have something to do with Kubuntu's Media patch... not really sure
[05:30] <thomax__> does anyone know why vlc fullscreen doesn't work propper anymore?
[05:32] <Dr_willis> works for me.
[05:32] <thomax__> Qt: 3.3.7
[05:32] <thomax__> KDE: 3.5.6
[05:32] <thomax__> kde-config: 1.0
[05:32] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, dolphin accesses ntfs without any probs here ...
[05:33] <DemonSamurai> !divx
[05:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:33] <Dr_willis> !xvid
[05:35] <JuJuBee> Why is it that every time I install and try to create a separate /home I get "No bootable device" after the reboot?  If I install a single partition, it works fine.
[05:35] <thomax__> It looks like this whe I do fullscreen
[05:35] <thomax__> http://dope.digital-lobotomy.com/img/vlc.jpg
[05:36] <thomax__> it still has the window decoration :(
[05:37] <michael> has anyone used the gmailfs
[05:38] <BluesKaj> yeah, thomax__ VLC and mplayer do that ..kaffeine seems to be the player that fullscrns without the panel
[05:38] <thomax__> yeah I know
[05:38] <thomax__> but I like vlc
[05:38] <Daisuke_Ido> i thought maybe JUST MAYBE i could save a step in ripping, keep from ripping wice, once to flac and once to v0
[05:38] <thomax__> it worked in previous version of kubuntu
[05:39] <Minataku> thomax__: I _think_ VLC can run on the framebuffer
[05:39] <Minataku> I know mplayer can
[05:39] <Minataku> You'll get pure video if you do that
[05:39] <thomax__> and how do we do that?
[05:40] <thomax__> Minataku: ?
[05:40] <Minataku> Virtual Terminal
[05:40] <Minataku> Ctrl+Alt+F2
[05:40] <Minataku> Login
[05:40] <Minataku> vlc filename
[05:40] <Minataku> If *buntu is saner than I'm hoping, it'll have support
[05:40] <thomax__> hmm
[05:40] <thomax__> okay
[05:40] <Minataku> If you get "cannot open DISPLAY" or whatever, then I lose more faith in it :P
[05:42] <thomax__> I'll try that, but it isn't what I wanted :)
[05:42] <thomax__> :(
[05:42] <Minataku> Heh
[05:42] <Minataku> It WILL give you fullscreen without the decorations
[05:42] <Minataku> IF it works
[05:42] <thomax__> :p
[05:42] <thomax__> okay thanx
[05:42] <Minataku> np
[05:42] <thomax__> Minataku: unable to initialize gtk :(
[05:43] <thomax__> is display set propperly
[05:43] <thomax__> ?
[05:43] <thomax__> error
[05:44] <BluesKaj> yup, i get the same error
[05:45] <BluesKaj> and the screen is very jumpy
[05:46] <Silent_G> BluesKaj,
[05:46] <Silent_G> !!!
[05:46] <BluesKaj> hi Silent_G
[05:46] <Silent_G> i installed kubuntu in text mode, and installed everything manual
[05:46] <Silent_G> it worked now
[05:46] <Silent_G> ;p
[05:47] <BluesKaj> cool
[05:47] <Silent_G> do you by anychance know what this error means ? http://rafb.net/p/N9SuKo34.html
[05:48] <BluesKaj> no sorry, Silent_G
[05:48] <Silent_G> ok thankz
[05:48] <BluesKaj> Minataku, ?
[05:50] <JuJuBee> I have 2 HD sda (/, /home, swap) and sdb(/backup).  fdisk -l shows boot disk as sdb.  How do I change to sda?
[05:50] <jermain_> minataku, your advice helped. but the file doesnt seem to get uploaded. The thing is:
[05:51] <jermain_> the file to upload is /home/jermain_/directory/somefile
[05:51] <Dr_willis> JuJuBee,  these are SATA disks?
[05:51] <JuJuBee> Yes,
[05:51] <jermain_> but as destination
[05:51] <JuJuBee> Getting No bootable device after fresh install
[05:51] <jermain_> it keeps trying to put in in the file to upload is /home/jermain_/directory/somefile on the remote server
[05:51] <jermain_> but those dir dont exist there
[05:51] <Dr_willis>  Swap thje Cables I guess. :) is one way. Sounds tome like grub is getting isntalled to the wrong disk.
[05:52] <JuJuBee> Can I reinstall grub to the first disk?
[05:52] <Dr_willis> you can install grub to both disks if you wanted to
[05:52] <Dr_willis> you can install grub to 1000000 disks if you wanted to. :)
[05:52] <JuJuBee> How do I manually install grub after the install?
[05:53] <Dr_willis> Usage: grub-install [OPTION]  install_device
[05:53] <Minataku> ?
[05:53] <JuJuBee> Ok, I will look
[05:53] <Minataku> Ah, yeah, it must not properly support working on the fb
[05:53] <Minataku> Totally lame
[05:54] <Minataku> binary\ packages--
[05:54] <marckie_> hi Minataku!
[05:54] <marckie_> wazzup?
[05:54] <Minataku> Hi
[05:54] <Dr_willis> Oh the Humanity of it all! :0
[05:54] <Minataku> Not much
[05:54] <Dr_willis> heh
[05:54] <marckie_> my kubuntu got busted last night... huhuhuhu...
[05:54] <marckie_> got black screen after installing nvidia...
[05:54] <marckie_> driver...
[05:54] <Dr_willis> ya got a tv hooked up?
[05:54] <jermain_> oh btw minataku, are you japanese or do you just have a japanese nickname?
[05:55] <marckie_> well Ill be installing envy first next time...
[05:55] <Minataku> jermain_: The latter
[05:55] <JuJuBee> Dr_Willis : is install_device /dev/sda1 if that is my / part on first hd?
[05:55] <marckie_> his chinese... peace out!
[05:55] <Dr_willis> JuJuBee,  /dev/sda
[05:55] <jermain_> aww dang -.- i'm going there later this year and was hoping for advice :p
[05:55] <JuJuBee> Ok, thanks
[05:56] <Dr_willis> sda1 would be the first partition, not the drive
[05:56] <Minataku> jermain_: Lucky :o
[05:56] <DexterF> hi
[05:56] <Dr_willis> 'dont drink the water' :)
[05:56] <DexterF> the korgac icon sometimes doesn't show up, anyone else got this?
[05:56] <JuJuBee> What {OPTION} do I need?  --root-directory=?
[05:56] <DexterF> it should load with the session
[05:57] <Dr_willis> grub-install /dev/sda
[05:57] <Dr_willis> is proberly all ya need
[05:57] <JuJuBee> Could not find device for /boot
[05:57] <jermain_> hehe ^^
[05:57] <JuJuBee> I'm booted from live cd
[05:58] <Minataku> Dr_willis: That's Mexico
[05:58] <Minataku> XD
[05:58] <Dr_willis> you need to 'chroot' into the installed disrto.
[05:58] <jermain_> well, i'm out. have fun guys. And thanks again for the help mina
[05:59] <Dr_willis> bbl
[06:00] <JuJuBee> How do I chroot ?
[06:00] <JuJuBee> what is the new root?
[06:02] <Silent_G> BluesKaj, is there a way to use the VESA driver when installing kubuntu?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub
[06:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:03] <blurpy> hi! i just did a clean install of kubuntu 7.04, and tar segfaults. nice! i tried to reinstall it, but it seems apt-get depends on tar, and tar segfaulted. any ideas?
[06:03] <JuJuBee> grub > find /boot/grub/stage1 returns (hd0,0)
[06:03] <BluesKaj> Silent_G, i think the the default driver is the vesa driver until kubuntu recognizes your hardware and runs the the closest appropriate driver
[06:04] <BluesKaj> thomax__, in VLC there is a full screen option
[06:04] <Dr_willis> blurpy,  id be wondering at bad ram, or currupted install media. as being the problem
[06:04] <BluesKaj> as there is in mplayer too
[06:04] <Silent_G> BluesKaj, when i try to install kubuntu. it just goes into a screen full of colours and crashes, is there some option or something i can use to use VESA driver?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Silent_G,  the alternative install cd uses text based installer.  What video card ya got anyway? not sure what grub 'cheatcodes' ubuntu handles for  vesa/other settings.
[06:05] <blurpy> Dr_willis: i've been running gentoo on it for the last 2 years, so don't think ram is the problem. i checked the media before the install too. could have been a corrupt install anyway maybe
[06:05] <BluesKaj> Silent_G, are you doing a net install from the live cd or a plain cd install ?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> blurpy,  sure sounds like it to me.   Wouldent hurt to try the memtest stuff in any case.
[06:06] <Silent_G> Dr_willis, i have a via Chrome9 k8m890. no linux distribution supports it, only works on vesa ( until i install openchrome drivers then it works)
[06:06] <Silent_G> BluesKaj,  i have a Kubuntu DVD not Cd
[06:06] <Dr_willis> Silent_G,  sounds like a good canidate for the alternative install cd to me. :() not sure how to tell the livecd to use vesa
[06:06] <blurpy> Dr_willis: i'll give the memtest a try, thanks
[06:06] <Minataku> Hm
[06:06] <Dr_willis> i thought the DVD had the alt and live cd both on it.
[06:07] <Silent_G> :S
[06:07] <BluesKaj> exactly
[06:07] <Silent_G> so no one knows how to use the vesa driver?
[06:07] <Minataku> I might
[06:07] <Minataku> One moment please
[06:07] <Silent_G> ok
[06:08] <WaxyFresh> im running gnome,but i like the look of kde is there anyway i can install just the kde application bar?
[06:10] <Minataku> Silent_G: What video resolution do you want?
[06:10] <Minataku> I'ma craft the whole thing for ya, here
[06:10] <Silent_G> Minataku, 1024x768
[06:10] <Silent_G> and thankz man :)
[06:11] <Minataku> Silent_G: np
[06:12] <Minataku> Silent_G: Try "video=vesafb vga=0x318"
[06:12] <Silent_G> ok
[06:13] <Silent_G> like that it will use the vesa or the vga driver?
[06:13] <payam> does anyone know what i should to choss as a partition manager?
[06:13] <Minataku> VESA driver and 1024x768xsomething
[06:13] <Minataku> I gave you the vga string I use on my laptop
[06:13] <carlos__> alguien habla espaol
[06:13] <zipper> payam, qtparted is pretty popular
[06:14] <Silent_G> ok then , i'll try it now :p
[06:14] <Minataku> I know it's 1024x768 but I forget the color depth
[06:14] <Minataku> !es | carlos__
[06:14] <ubotu> carlos__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:14] <FSHero> Minataku: Does GNOME use ARTS? Or only KDE?
[06:14] <carlos__> ok gracias
[06:14] <Minataku> FSHero: Only KDE uses that crap
[06:14] <FSHero> Minataku: (I was just viewing the earlier convo)
[06:14] <Minataku> GNOME may use something different, though
[06:14] <Minataku> I know GNOME uses that horrific "hald"
[06:14] <FSHero> Minataku: So I might be better using Ubuntu rather than Kubuntu for simplicity?
[06:15] <Minataku> Which if I'm correct is like arts but for EVERYTHING
[06:15] <Minataku> FSHero: No, you're not
[06:15] <FSHero> Minataku: Is Xfce better?
[06:15] <Minataku> Unless you count lack of easily configurable options as simpler and better
[06:15] <Minataku> Never used XFce
[06:16] <FSHero> Minataku: Last question (hopefully!): If I run a KDE app like Amarok, but in Xfce, will that use ARTS?
[06:16] <Minataku> FSHero: It certainly shouldn't, or should at least have proper support for ALSA and/or OSS compiled in
[06:16] <animimotus> hi
[06:17] <animimotus> I have 2 errors in a .PO with Kbabel
[06:17] <Minataku> But then from what I've seen so far of various precompiled things around here, who the heck knows
[06:17] <FSHero> Minataku: Excellent. I'm using Xfce anyway (got a slow comp)... but I'm planning for the future. Thanks dude... you are a genius!
[06:17] <Minataku> FSHero: Heehee
[06:18] <animimotus> somethings about "invalid nplurals value" and "Language-Team still has initial value"
[06:19] <Minataku> animimotus: Heh, you might be better off seeing if kbabel has a channel here
[06:19] <animimotus> oh, I didn't know it exist Minataku
[06:19] <animimotus> thx
[06:19] <Minataku> It does exist? Cool.
[06:20] <animimotus> Minataku: in fact... no...
[06:20] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok works well under xfce (ubuntu repo version), and there's always the additional amarok packages (amarok-xine and amarok-engines)
[06:20] <Minataku> Damn. XD
[06:20] <Minataku> animimotus: Maybe try #kde then
[06:22] <thomax__> BluesKaj: about the vlc
[06:22] <Graham> Hey, I've managed to get ahold of an ATI radeon 9800 pro APG graphics card, what drivers do I need to download and stuff?
[06:22] <thomax__> I know there is a full screen option , but it doesnt seem to work
[06:22] <Graham> Basicly, what do I do?
[06:23] <Minataku> Graham: Throw it out
[06:23] <Minataku> :P
[06:23] <Dr_willis> Graham,  that uses the fglrx drivers
[06:23] <Minataku> !ati
[06:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:23] <Graham> Minataku: Why would you say that?
[06:23] <Minataku> Graham: Because it's an ATI card
[06:23] <Dr_willis> I got a card just like that as a 'spare'
[06:23] <Dr_willis> its lasted through several pc's :)
[06:24] <Graham> Minataku: So?
[06:24] <thomax__> Graham: nvidia > ati
[06:24] <Minataku> If you don't use Windows, ATI hates you. As a person.
[06:24] <Graham> Minataku: I'm a nvidia person myself, but considering my current card is a geforce 2 MX, I'm not fucking complaining!
[06:24] <Minataku> !language
[06:24] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:24] <coreymon77> ya
[06:25] <coreymon77> linux and ATI dont like eachother
[06:25] <Minataku> Rather, ATI just hates Linux
[06:25] <coreymon77> true
[06:25] <Minataku> brb
[06:25] <tomas_> hello! please can anyone help me where can I set up applications which I need to start after system startup?
[06:25] <Graham> ATI is not an entity that has feelings.
[06:26] <coreymon77> ...
[06:27] <Minataku> Corporations have feelings. Typically just one, hatred for what/whoever they don't like
[06:27] <Minataku> Oh, and lust, but only for money
[06:28] <coreymon77> and power
[06:28] <Minataku> coreymon77: Same difference
[06:29] <BluesKaj> thomax__, sorry to hear that...could be a driver issue ...I'm running an elcheapo aati with the FGLRX modded patched driver for 3D and tv layering and it all seems to work ok.
[06:29] <thomax__> when I'm in beryl, it works fine to
[06:30] <thomax__> but not in kwin
[06:30] <tomas_> hello! please can anyone help me where can I set up applications which I need to start after kubuntu system startup?
[06:30] <thomax__> BluesKaj:
[06:32] <Silent_G> Minataku, nothing it crashed again into the screen full of colours
[06:32] <Silent_G> :/
[06:32] <BluesKaj> Graham, if you are trying to squeeze as much out of your ATI card as possible , try this tutorial altho i think you already know about it, if my poor memory serves me correctly : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[06:34] <BluesKaj> Silent_G, how far into the install process do you get to when it crashes ?
[06:34] <Silent_G> hmm
[06:35] <Silent_G> you know the black Screen when the big Blue "Kubuntu" and a loading line comes?
[06:36] <Silent_G> when the blue loading line reaches the end , (like 90% of the line) it goes into a screen full of colours
[06:36] <BluesKaj> after all the partitioning and copying files to the HDD takes place or ?
[06:36] <Silent_G> no
[06:36] <Silent_G> before everything
[06:36] <Graham> Cheers BluesKaj
[06:37] <a-865> anyone know how to get wget to download an iso instead of a symlink?
[06:37] <Silent_G> when you boot, and the options comes up, then you have: Star or install kubuntu, install textmode, install console-system, install text-mode for maintainrs
[06:37] <Silent_G> then i choose to install kubunu, and that loading line comes
[06:37] <Silent_G> then it crashes when its nearly finished into a screen full of colours
[06:37] <luca> !list
[06:37] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:38] <Grant> uh
[06:38] <Grant> where is the file that you can add devices to boot?
[06:39] <llutz> Grant: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:39] <Grant> thanks
[06:39] <luca> hi
[06:39] <Silent_G> you know what im saying BluesKaj ?
[06:40] <BluesKaj> yes, Silent_G but I'm at a loss ...dunno how to help:(
[06:41] <Silent_G> man i wish they add this video card to the linux distros
[06:42] <Silent_G> Minataku, do you know an idea?
[06:42] <Minataku> ?
[06:42] <Minataku> The VESA driver failed?
[06:42] <Silent_G> yes
[06:42] <Minataku> There's one more fallback
[06:42] <Silent_G> as usual, it crashed into the screen full of colours
[06:42] <Minataku> Replace all I gave you with "video=vga"
[06:42] <Silent_G> no
[06:43] <Silent_G> vga doesnt work with my video card
[06:43] <Silent_G> i tried it many times
[06:43] <Minataku> Then your video card won't work period.
[06:43] <Silent_G> only vesa, and openchrome drivers from openchrome.org work
[06:43] <BluesKaj> Silent_G, I know it's no help to you , but pclinux and a few other distros won't come close to loading an install on my pc
[06:43] <Minataku> Silent_G: Any way you can get some kind of temporary stand-in?
[06:43] <Minataku> Or use a serial port?
[06:43] <Silent_G> what do you mean?
[06:44] <Minataku> Put in a temporary loaner card
[06:44] <Minataku> Or install via a serial terminal
[06:44] <navets> can someone help me getting opengl to work?
[06:44] <Silent_G> right now im in kubuntu
[06:44] <Silent_G> what i did was, made a consol-system install
[06:44] <Silent_G> it installs only console
[06:44] <Silent_G> and then i installed Xorg and KDE
[06:44] <Silent_G> but
[06:44] <Silent_G> its deferent from the normal kubuntu installation
[06:44] <Silent_G> i want the normal installation
[06:45] <Ayabara> I seem to have lost the "window" menu in konqueror. Anyone know where it is? :-)
[06:45] <Minataku> Silent_G: It's just different means to the same end
[06:46] <BluesKaj> Minataku, what about  'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and then he can choose the vesa driver from the options
[06:46] <coreymon77> Ayabara: cntrl+m
[06:46] <Silent_G> right now everything is ok
[06:46] <coreymon77> Ayabara: or f11
[06:46] <Silent_G> cause i made a console installation and installed everything
[06:46] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Yeah, that could work fine, if he was only having issue with X
[06:46] <Silent_G> even openchrome driver
[06:46] <Minataku> Silent_G: Then you're fine
[06:46] <Silent_G> but the kde is not using the normal kubuntu theme
[06:46] <Minataku> Silent_G: You got to the same place, you just took a different way there
[06:46] <Silent_G> and i have somekind of problem, let me show it to you
[06:47] <mr_> mooin
[06:47] <mr_> moin
[06:47] <Sanne> Silent_G: the package kubuntu-desktop should install what's missing for you.
[06:47] <Minataku> mr_: Get a new keyboard.
[06:47] <arrautza> hi
[06:47] <Minataku> lol
[06:47] <mr_> hi
[06:47] <Silent_G> Minataku, do you know something about this eror - http://rafb.net/p/N9SuKo34.html
[06:48] <mr_> kanal voll
[06:48] <arrautza> sorry but i need undretsof help
[06:48] <Ayabara> coreymon77, thanks, but I'm missing the window-dropdown menu where I can select "split window".
[06:48] <Minataku> Silent_G: Yeah, there's no such thing as "modules" in the makefile
[06:48] <Ayabara> it exists, doesn't it?
[06:49] <Minataku> Silent_G: It seems to be a bogus target
[06:49] <Silent_G> and what can i do about it Minataku ? i really need to install that its the DRM for my graphic card
[06:49] <arrautza> i'm trying yo install firefox32 on my amd64... with all the posibles plugs in
[06:49] <coreymon77> Ayabara: not sure what you mean
[06:49] <Minataku> Silent_G: Complain to whoever made the package
[06:49] <arrautza> but can't do it
[06:49] <Silent_G> :O
[06:49] <arrautza> X(
[06:49] <Silent_G> its not a problem with the package Minataku , cause i installed it on Gentoo Distro
[06:50] <arrautza> can anybody help me?
[06:50] <Sanne> Ayabara: kubuntu's konqueror is customized a bit, if I remember correctly. I think I also didn't have a split window in the menu by default.
[06:50] <BluesKaj> arrautza, try swiftfox,it's the 64bit version of FF
[06:50] <Minataku> Silent_G: Hrm... it seems like it is
[06:50] <Silent_G> :S
[06:50] <arrautza> with all inclusive??
[06:51] <Wasser> test
[06:51] <Minataku> Silent_G: Sorry, though, either way I'm out of ideas now
[06:51] <arrautza> mean... adove and stuff??
[06:51] <Silent_G> ok but thankz for everything ;)
[06:51] <arrautza> adobe
[06:51] <Ayabara> Sanne, explains it
[06:52] <arrautza> the plugs to see vidios for example?
[06:52] <Sanne> Ayabara: I'm finding you a howto to restore the functions, sec
[06:52] <Ayabara> Sanne, thanks a lot
[06:52] <Minataku> Silent_G: np
[06:53] <Minataku> Hang around, someone else may be able to help you out
[06:53] <sergiy> test
[06:53] <Silent_G> i will
[06:53] <Silent_G> Minataku,
[06:53] <sergiy> ^)
[06:53] <Minataku> k
[06:53] <Sanne> Ayabara: two links: 1. from the kubuntu faq: http://www.google.com/search?btnG=Google+Search&q=kubuntu+konqueror+profiles   2. Howto by a user: http://jucato.org/kde/konq-profiles.html
[06:54] <Silent_G> look at this Minataku http://rafb.net/p/YRIQKt23.html
[06:54] <Silent_G> i found it on google
[06:54] <BluesKaj> whew Minataku , from what Silent_G said I thot that he wasn't able to install kubuntu at all ... all that other stuff went right by me :)
[06:54] <Silent_G> :o
[06:54] <BluesKaj> time fro a break and a few beers on the patio
[06:54] <Silent_G> offer some BluesKaj  ;p
[06:55] <BluesKaj> late gents and gentoos :)
[06:55] <Silent_G> laterz, peace
[06:55] <Ayabara> Sanne, ah. two lines was all that was needed. thanks :-)
[06:55] <Sanne> Ayabara: you're welcome :)
[06:57] <arrautza> what about swiftfox?? will i see youtube for example?? sorry to ask but i'm terribly new with this
[06:57] <_marty> how do I make sound come out of my usb headset instead of my sound card?
[06:58] <dwidmann> swiftfox, you mean that recompile of firefox with the ugly license?
[06:58] <crimsun> _marty: see `asoundconf list` and `asoundconf set-default-card`
[06:58] <darkrift__> how do i kill a frozen app?
[06:58] <_marty> crimsun: I saw that on google and tried it but it didn't work
[06:58] <arrautza> where can i find a version os swiftfox for amd turion 64??
[06:59] <Dr_willis> swiftfox is  not THAT cpu specific. :)
[06:59] <Sayers> Is there a way I can reset Kwallet?
[06:59] <Grant> how do I make it so ntfs-3g mounts a drive each time linux boots?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> Grant,  put an entry in the fstab file is the old-skool way.
[06:59] <arrautza> there are version for semprom & others
[07:00] <Dr_willis> arrautza,  sounds a bit silly to me for them to go that extreme.
[07:00] <arrautza> sayer: i made another wallet, other name.. errase the oldone and then i create it again
[07:00] <darkrift__> how do i kill a frozen app? firefox wont close
[07:00] <Dr_willis> i doubt if the turion is that much diff from the semeron.
[07:01] <crimsun> _marty: did you restart the alsa app?
[07:01] <Dr_willis> darkrift__,  could use the 'xkill' command
[07:01] <dwidmann> darkrift__: ctrl + alt + escape, then click on the frozen app
[07:01] <darkrift__> there we go, ty
[07:02] <Grant> eh
[07:02] <Grant> defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
[07:02] <Sanne> darkrift__: or a gui way (if you prefer that): launch ksysguard, find the app in the processtable, select it and klick the kill button.
[07:02] <Grant> what does that do?
[07:02] <Grant> do I have to add it for each NTFS mount?
[07:03] <Dr_willis> Grant,  theres a ntfs linux wiki/howto/faq page that details that.
[07:03] <nosrednaekim> Sanne: haha "klck"
[07:03] <Dr_willis> Grant,  I do belive your umask= option is wrong however.
[07:03] <Silent_G> Minataku, whats the reason that when i install somethign with apt-get it tells me to insert the kubuntu dvd?
[07:03] <Dr_willis> Grant,  for each ntfs filesystem - you create a entry for it in the fstab file. correct.
[07:03] <Grant> oh, well I got it from a tutorial
[07:03] <darkrift__> ty
[07:03] <darkrift__> ksysguard worked
[07:03] <Sanne> nosrednaekim: klck?
[07:04] <Dr_willis> http://www.linux-ntfs.org/  has some of the best info ive seen. May not be ntfs-3g specific however
[07:04] <ypsila> moin
[07:04] <Sanne> darkrift__: if you want, you can add ksysguard to the panel, it's in the applet list called System Guard.
[07:04] <nosrednaekim> Sanne: you said click with a K, "klick" I think KDE should patent the double klick.:-P
[07:04] <dwidmann> Silent_G: because there's an entry for it in your sources.list
[07:05] <ypsila> has anyone a dualboot kubuntu / vista on an amd 64?
[07:05] <Silent_G> dwidmann, how do i remove it? :/
[07:05] <Grant> Dr_willis: well, that line didn't cause any issues before
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> ypsila: 64 bit shouldn't make any difference
[07:05] <dwidmann> Silent_G: it's probably the first line in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[07:05] <Dr_willis> Grant,  depends on what you are doing.
[07:05] <Silent_G> ok
[07:05] <Sanne> nosrednaekim: hahaha! I really didn't notice untill now. :)
[07:05] <ypsila> nosrednaekim: but vista does?
[07:05] <ypsila> nosrednaekim: plus its an ati an 2 screens
[07:05] <ypsila> +d
[07:06] <Grant> Dr_willis, I just did "/dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs-3g" before it
[07:06] <nosrednaekim> ypsila: not really... as long as you partition the disc b4 loading vista. (its easier that way
[07:06] <Sanne> nosrednaekim: it's also german for click... I think I have confused myself with all those k's :)
[07:06] <SD1> Does anyone know how to configure a MSI TV@anywhere Plus or Kworld TV terminator (they are the same)(saa7134)  tuner in Ubuntu 7.04? Because it is not automatically detected (It has no eeprom) and I don't know how to manually configure it. I can't find the config file. I found this on a website [saa7134 card=26 i2c_scan=1 tuner=54]  but I have no idea on how to use it.
[07:06] <nosrednaekim> Sanne: ah.. ok. then Microsoft probably still holds the patent in Germany.
[07:06] <dwidmann> If you're using 64-bit vista then I feel very, very sorry for you. I've read bad things about vista ... but worse things about the 64-bit edition
[07:06] <ypsila> nosrednaekim: I partition before installing vista?
[07:06] <nosrednaekim> ypsila: yeah.
[07:07] <nosrednaekim> do you have it installed?
[07:07] <Sanne> nosrednaekim: (serious mode) so far Germany doesn't have software patents... hopefully it will remain so for a long time.
[07:07] <ypsila> nosrednaekim: uha, thanks for the information, its not for me, its for a freind
[07:07] <ypsila> Sanne: you are german?
[07:07] <Sanne> ypsila: yes
[07:07] <ypsila> Sanne: grzi ;-)
[07:07] <Sanne> ypsila: and I think I recognize your nick :)
[07:08] <nosrednaekim> Sanne: ah... well thats nice... I thought Mp3 codecs were illegal there though?
[07:08] <ypsila> and vista is already installed
[07:08] <dwidmann> The United States is a patent minefield ... I'm surprised they haven't patented wearing pants, wait, they probably did o.O
[07:08] <nosrednaekim> ypsila: ok.. not porblem really. You just have to shrink the partition within vista
[07:08] <nosrednaekim> *not a problem
[07:08] <ypsila> nosrednaekim: lets say not legal
[07:09] <Minataku> Say, Dr_willis, how did you send the package? USPS?
[07:09] <nosrednaekim> ypsila: like dvdcss here? gotcha.
[07:09] <ypsila> oh god, vista is such a fuck
[07:09] <nosrednaekim> !language
[07:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:09] <ypsila> nosrednaekim: I do not know anything about your country
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> ypsila: the USA? yeah, well its kinda messed up right now.
[07:10] <ypsila> okeh, vista is a herrgottsackzement
[07:10] <ypsila> ;-)
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> ypsila: heh just don't say that word over at #ubuntu-de lol
[07:11] <Sanne> nosrednaekim: I think it's still unclear if it would hold up in court, although the european patent organization is known to have granted software patents in the past, although there officially aren't any in europe. I'm confused about that also.
[07:11] <ypsila> nosrednaekim: I'm well known at ubuntu-de as I' m part of the kubuntu-de team ;-)
[07:11] <rjune> Mein Deutsch ist nicht so gut, was ist herrgottsackzement in Englisch?
[07:11] <nosrednaekim> rjune: probably his previous expletive.
[07:11] <ypsila> rjune: you cannot really translate that
[07:12] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[07:13] <rjune> ypsila: would it be close to your previous expletive?
[07:13] <ypsila> rjune: it comes from Herrgott Sakrament and Sakrament is replaced by Sack Zement = sack of cement
[07:14] <[nk] > bahaha
[07:14] <[nk] > gentleman god bag cement
[07:14] <rjune> yeah
[07:14] <rjune> that doesn't translate.
[07:14] <ypsila> I couldn't imagine vista is that bad
[07:14] <[nk] > it translates as "awful" I think ;)
[07:14] <rjune> this sounds similar to "he licks the sweat off a dead man's balls"
[07:14] <ypsila> [nk] : not Gentlemen - Christ
[07:14] <[nk] > ah
[07:15] <[nk] > bahaha
[07:15] <rjune> I'm not sure what it means. but it doesn't sound positive.
[07:15] <ninHer> how is the command for for running "the cube" ?
[07:15] <ninHer> beryl
[07:15] <nosrednaekim> ninHer: you have it installed?
[07:15] <Chousuke> rjune: Thanks for the mental image. ;(
[07:15] <ninHer> yes nosrednaekim
[07:15] <ypsila> rjune: it means: Jesus Christ what a terrible thing
[07:16] <Grant> how do I unlock the package database?
[07:16] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[07:16] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:16] <Grant> k
[07:17] <Grant> thanks
[07:17] <ypsila> what would you recommend for a dual with vista: edgy or feisty?
[07:18] <nosrednaekim> ypsila: fiesty
[07:18] <ypsila> [nk] : this guy needs a productive system, and he has ati
[07:22] <Chousuke> feisty.
[07:22] <Chousuke> it's the current stable
[07:22] <[nk] > feisty would do nicely
[07:22] <ypsila> Chousuke: I do not need the current I need somthing that works I would even take dapper, if I can be sure it is running
[07:22] <Chousuke> ypsila: I still think Feisty is your best bet.
[07:22] <nosrednaekim> ypsila: ati and productivity and linux seem to not go together
[07:22] <rjune> Chousuke: always happy to help
[07:22] <ypsila> nosrednaekim: personally I do not like ati at all because: Always Trouble Installing
[07:23] <nosrednaekim> haha
[07:24] <cybrhuman> Is there some smart command I can use from the shell to start programs in the gui?
[07:24] <nosrednaekim> cybrhuman: the command of the program you want to run.
[07:24] <nosrednaekim> if you are in the GUI that is..
[07:25] <ypsila> cybrhuman: alt + f2 program name?
[07:26] <cybrhuman> thanks... hehe.. thought I had tried that... thanks for the time :-)
[07:28] <[nk] > I must say... I'm a KDE fan.
[07:28] <[nk] > :(
[07:28] <nosrednaekim> no kiddin..
[07:28] <nosrednaekim> or rather ... no Kidding..
[07:28] <[nk] > hehe
[07:28] <nosrednaekim> :-P
[07:28] <crimsun> [nk] : that's only because you're a dillw.
[07:29] <[nk] > bahahaha
[07:29] <[nk] > crimsun
[07:29] <[nk] > you're too kind :)
[07:29] <crimsun> always.
[07:33] <cybrhuman> I want to mount a ntfs partition readonly and accsessible for users, how do I do that in fstab?
[07:34] <jean-nicolas> salut
[07:38] <shatteredskye> hello?
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> hello
[07:38] <shatteredskye> hi there
[07:38] <shatteredskye> i'm a newbie with some graphics frusrations
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> those are common.
[07:39] <shatteredskye> hehe so i hear
[07:39] <shatteredskye> so
[07:39] <shatteredskye> i have the intel integrated 945GM chipset
[07:39] <nosrednaekim> its the ones that have graphic frustations that we can't help
[07:39] <shatteredskye> ?
[07:39] <nosrednaekim> never mind.
[07:39] <shatteredskye> haha
[07:40] <nosrednaekim> ok.. so is 3d not working or something?
[07:40] <shatteredskye> and i can't get the native resolution on my tablet (1280X768) to work
[07:40] <shatteredskye> it defauts to 1080X768
[07:40] <nosrednaekim> hmm... I've heard intels are the best...
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> did you check in the control center->display?
[07:41] <shatteredskye> I'm sorry i mean it defaults to 1024x768
[07:42] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. I've never done and intel. I think you need to install "915resolution" though.
[07:42] <shatteredskye> yep - the 2 options i have are the current one and 1280x1024
[07:42] <nosrednaekim> *an
[07:42] <shatteredskye> i actually tried installingthatpackage
[07:42] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: did it install?
[07:42] <shatteredskye> and it said i don't have the IO permisions to list the different modes of my resolutions
[07:43] <shatteredskye> or something like that
[07:43] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: in control center?
[07:43] <shatteredskye> hmm i followed the tutorial that came with it - let me try it again and I'll paste the console output
[07:45] <nosrednaekim> link me to the tutorial too.
[07:45] <shatteredskye> ok
[07:45] <shatteredskye> hm
[07:45] <shatteredskye> gimme a sec
[07:45] <shatteredskye> i'm really sluggish - just migrated a couple days ago - apologies
[07:46] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. no problem
[07:46] <nosrednaekim> at least you sound like you know a little bit about what you are doing..we get some people...
[07:46] <shatteredskye> haha
[07:46] <shatteredskye> thanks, i'm trying
[07:47] <shatteredskye> ok so-
[07:47] <shatteredskye> all i can give u is the local link that the tutorial installs itself to when u install the package
[07:47] <shatteredskye> v
[07:47] <shatteredskye> oops
[07:47] <nosrednaekim> heh.... this ain't windows..lol
[07:47] <shatteredskye> haha
[07:48] <shatteredskye> "/usr/share/doc/915resolution/README.Debian"
[07:48] <nosrednaekim> ah.. it installs a tutorial on the disc?
[07:48] <shatteredskye> yeah
[07:48] <nosrednaekim> !915resolution
[07:48] <shatteredskye> yeah
[07:48] <nosrednaekim> bot's slow today...
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 915resolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <shatteredskye> ok, thank you for your help!
[07:49] <shatteredskye> =)
[07:50] <nosrednaekim> lets see what we can find//
[07:50] <shatteredskye> no hits
[07:50] <shatteredskye> for 915 or 945
[07:51] <shatteredskye> is there a way to just manually change the rez in a config file?
[07:51] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: Not sure...I'm checking out a gentoo tutorial
[07:52] <shatteredskye> ok, thanks
[07:52] <nosrednaekim> ok... getting some stuff.. hang on.
[07:53] <shatteredskye> k
[07:56] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_Correct_the_Graphics_Resolution_.28Intel.29
[07:56] <darkrift__> anyone know a good way to get movies (converted) and music sync'd to an ipod
[07:56] <shatteredskye> reading...
[07:56] <darkrift__> !ipod
[07:56] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[07:56] <darkrift__> w00t
[07:56] <nosrednaekim> darkrift__: gtkpod, or amarok
[07:57] <nosrednaekim> !rockbox
[07:57] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[07:57] <darkrift__> ive used rockbox
[07:57] <darkrift__> not all that great
[07:57] <nosrednaekim> is it nice? it sounds interesting
[07:57] <darkrift__> i particularly need to convert a movie to ipod format
[07:58] <darkrift__> think any of those will do it?
[07:58] <darkrift__> ipodlinux was decent, but not ready yet
[08:00] <erichj> that is just mpeg4
[08:00] <erichj> doesn't avidemux do it?
[08:01] <darkrift__> is there an app taht will show me a pie graph of a drives usage (windows drive)?
[08:01] <darkrift__> im close to ditching vista totally, but for now, i need to delete some junk and resize it so i have more space for kubuntu
[08:01] <Minataku> Crap
[08:02] <Minataku> This Ultra 1 has more wrong with it than just the bad CG6
[08:02] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: its everywhere...
[08:02] <Minataku> It's SCSI seems bad as well
[08:02] <Minataku> "Can't clear ESP interrupts: Check SCSI Term. Power Fuse."
[08:02] <Minataku> Which will either indicate a bad fuse or total loss of the SCSI adaptor
[08:03] <nosrednaekim> heh I burnt a scsi once... bad ground
[08:03] <asiakas> Firs time in IRC
[08:03] <darkrift__> its just a chat program
[08:03] <darkrift__> not much to get used to
[08:03] <nosrednaekim> asiakas: hi
[08:03] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: Well, this machine was $10
[08:03] <asiakas> Hi
[08:04] <asiakas> ootko suomalainen?
[08:04] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: ah. well thats nice
[08:04] <Minataku> So if it's toasted, no biggie
[08:04] <darkrift__> ok, im following the tutorial form the wiki, and it says to "sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2-dev libdvdnav-dev libdvdread-dev", but livdvdcss2-dev doesnt exist, any ideas?
[08:04] <Minataku> I'll be dejected but not out too badly
[08:04] <Minataku> lol
[08:04] <erichj> !seveas
[08:04] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:04] <erichj> darkrift__: that was for you
[08:04] <nosrednaekim> darkrift__: use the seveas repo.
[08:04] <asiakas> Hi
[08:05] <shatteredskye> nosredaekim: TRYING TO WORK THRU THE CHIPSET THING
[08:05] <shatteredskye> oops
[08:05] <shatteredskye> sry caps
[08:05] <shatteredskye> wasn't mad, haha
[08:05] <Minataku> Heehee
[08:05] <Minataku> !ask | asiakas
[08:05] <ubotu> asiakas: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:05] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: ok.. cool
[08:06] <darkrift__> still didnt work
[08:06] <Minataku> Also, kindly make all queries in the channel
[08:06] <shatteredskye> i'm trying to figure out how to register my nick, so i don't have to spam everyone at once
[08:06] <Minataku> !register | shatteredskye
[08:06] <Tm_T> !fi | asiakas
[08:06] <ubotu> shatteredskye: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:06] <ubotu> asiakas: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[08:06] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: thats ok.. don't worry about it
[08:06] <darkrift__> /msg nickserv register password email
[08:06] <asiakas> Im from Finland and firs time in IRC
[08:06] <nosrednaekim> Ubuntusta! that sounds sooo gangsta
[08:07] <asiakas> WHat?
[08:07] <Tm_T> asiakas: yes I notice, now, type /join #kubuntu-fi and press enter
[08:07] <asiakas> type join
[08:07] <asiakas> LOL
[08:08] <asiakas> type /join
[08:08] <asiakas> F***k
[08:08] <Tm_T> asiakas: check left side of window
[08:08] <asiakas> And then?
[08:09] <Tm_T> you did join to #kubuntu-fi so it should be there now
[08:09] <Tm_T> right?
[08:09] <darkrift__> still cant find libdvdcss2-dev, any more ideas? lo
[08:09] <darkrift__> lol*
[08:09] <nosrednaekim> darkrift__: dev?
[08:09] <asiakas> How I can chek that?
[08:09] <nosrednaekim> I didn't know there was a dev file
[08:09] <darkrift__> says its needed for ffmpeg to support dvd's
[08:10] <darkrift__> If you want DVD support, you need to do the following. If you do not want it, you must use the --disable-dvd flag for ./configure.
[08:10] <darkrift__> Code:
[08:10] <darkrift__> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2-dev libdvdnav-dev libdvdread-dev
[08:10] <nosrednaekim> hmm.
[08:10] <Tm_T> asiakas: you should see it in left side of window, there's list of channels you're in
[08:10] <asiakas> i dont have windows
[08:10] <darkrift__> LOL
[08:10] <darkrift__> ouch
[08:11] <Tm_T> asiakas: you do have window, applications are in windows, window is that box where application is appearing
[08:11] <darkrift__> /ctcp asiakas version
[08:11] <darkrift__> oops
[08:11] <Tm_T> darkrift__: please don't
[08:11] <darkrift__> please dont version someone?
[08:11] <kadaz> !flash
[08:11] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:11] <asiakas> teemu38@hotmail.com
[08:11] <Tm_T> darkrift__: exactly
[08:12] <Tm_T> asiakas: tosiaan, katso ikkunan vasenta laitaa (;
[08:12] <darkrift__> um.....
[08:12] <arrautza> i should be really dumb.... cause i can't get all the plugs for swiftfox
[08:12] <arrautza> can anyone help me
[08:12] <arrautza> ??
[08:12] <asiakas> mit siell pitisi nky?
[08:12] <Tm_T> asiakas: kanavalista
[08:12] <darkrift__> why would someone rather someone else not request a ctcp version from a third person
[08:12] <asiakas> ei saakeli
[08:13] <Tm_T> darkrift__: why should I explain it to you?
[08:13] <erichj> french fries!
[08:13] <darkrift__> because you asked me not to
[08:13] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: you still here?
[08:13] <Tm_T> darkrift__: because, all unnecessary ctcp calls are,well, not needed
[08:13] <shatteredskye> yes
[08:13] <darkrift__> and you are the ctcp judge?
[08:13] <Tm_T> hi tsdgeos
[08:13] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: figured that out yet?
[08:13] <darkrift__> you deem it unnecessary?
[08:13] <Tm_T> darkrift__: yes
[08:13] <darkrift__> i c
[08:13] <oaurono> hey
[08:14] <oaurono> I have a question
[08:14] <darkrift__> ctcp isnt even channel related
[08:14] <Tm_T> darkrift__: I know
[08:14] <darkrift__> and i doubt teh opers here have a problem with ctcp
[08:14] <nosrednaekim> yep... oaurono ask away
[08:14] <darkrift__> since they arent blocked by the ircd
[08:14] <erichj> darkrift__: ctcp away
[08:14] <shatteredskye> the tutorial tells me to replace one of the unneccessary resolutions with the one i want
[08:14] <Tm_T> wtf
[08:14] <erichj> haha
[08:14] <darkrift__> so teh fact that i accidentally pasted in here instead is the only reason you feel free to tell me to stop
[08:14] <shatteredskye> but mine's already listed
[08:14] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: ok.....
[08:14] <oaurono> i just got ubuntu but it says I am not the administrator...how do I change that?
[08:14] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: ok cool
[08:14] <tsdgeos> hi Tm_T
[08:14] <Tm_T> well that was wrong button =)
[08:14] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: now you just have to modify your xorg.
[08:15] <shatteredskye> but it's not listed in the System Display settings
[08:15] <shatteredskye> oh?
[08:15] <Tm_T> darkrift__: hum?
[08:15] <asiakas> tiedtk The real sir Robinin?
[08:15] <Tm_T> asiakas: english only thanks
[08:15] <nosrednaekim> oaurono: when you want to run a command, prefix it with "sudo"
[08:15] <darkrift__> ?
[08:15] <darkrift__> you are gonna threaten me for ctcping?
[08:15] <asiakas> Do u know  The real sir Robinin?
[08:15] <kadaz> I have installed flashnon free and the player isnt working
[08:15] <Tm_T> darkrift__: nope
[08:16] <darkrift__> i think that is funny
[08:16] <kadaz> would someone give me some options
[08:16] <asiakas> Linux?
[08:16] <oaurono> can I change it when I'm in graphics mode?
[08:16] <nosrednaekim> oaurono: certainly... prefix the command with "kdesu"
[08:16] <Tm_T> darkrift__: just pointing that "ops don't mind" doesn't hold
[08:16] <darkrift__> do you even understand the use of a ctcp version?
[08:16] <Tm_T> I do
[08:16] <nullkuhl> guys i have just installed kde and i wanna apply a theme to it i downloaded from kde-look.org , ,can any one tell me how to ?
[08:16] <Tm_T> and I don't like it
[08:16] <asiakas> I dont
[08:17] <nosrednaekim> oaurono: are you trying to run a graphical program?
[08:17] <nullkuhl> guys i have just installed kde and i wanna apply a theme to it i downloaded from kde-look.org , ,can any one tell me how to ?
[08:17] <darkrift__> someone was asking how to do something
[08:17] <darkrift__> each client is different
[08:17] <oaurono> can I change it without using terminal?
[08:17] <darkrift__> so me finding out their client helped answer a q
[08:17] <nosrednaekim> nullkuhl: kcontrol->theme manager->install theme
[08:17] <Tm_T> darkrift__: yes and I was explaining it
[08:17] <arrautza> guys & girls..wanna get my kubuntu with swiftfox and all the plugs..PLEASE... can anyone tell my  how????
[08:17] <asiakas> Now i smoke some pot;)
[08:17] <darkrift__> which makes your response completely uncalled for
[08:17] <darkrift__> op or not
[08:17] <fdoving> Tm_T: ctcp isn't a problem on a user-user basis, ctcping the channels is a different matter.
[08:17] <darkrift__> exactly
[08:17] <Tm_T> fdoving: I know, but I have personal problems
[08:17] <oaurono> I am trying to move a file and it wont let me move it
[08:17] <darkrift__> which is why i figured he wasnt sure what a client to client protocol version request was for
[08:17] <erichj> Tm_T: we've noticed
[08:18] <nosrednaekim> oaurono: ah ha... ok.
[08:18] <Tm_T> I asked him to not do it, not saying "you can't!"
[08:18] <darkrift__> you said please dont
[08:18] <asiakas> I have some Big Bud pot left
[08:18] <Tm_T> yes
[08:18] <darkrift__> tehn you opped up to look more threatening
[08:18] <Tm_T> please don't
[08:18] <darkrift__> why not stay opped up?
[08:18] <nosrednaekim> oaurono: from the konsole, run "kdesu konqueror"
[08:18] <darkrift__> why op up when someone does someting you dislike?
[08:18] <erichj> shouldn't you be banning for the drug reference?
[08:18] <fdoving> Tm_T: don't apply your personal problems as channel rules.
[08:19] <Tm_T> fdoving: I wasn't ruling
[08:19] <fdoving> ok.
[08:19] <Tm_T> I just asked to not do it
[08:19] <Tm_T> that's all
[08:19] <Tm_T> please don't
[08:19] <Tm_T> how would I even know if he does it or not?
[08:20] <oaurono> command konqueror not found
[08:20] <navets> can somebody help me with my video card and opengl
[08:20] <nosrednaekim> oaurono: are you in KDE?
[08:21] <oaurono> yea
[08:21] <fdoving> Tm_T: does what? ctcp the channel? you get a ctcp too in that case. if it wasn't annoying all people in the channel there would be no reason to react on it. ctcping individual users isn't a channel matter in my opinion.
[08:21] <Tm_T> fdoving: no, ctcp person
[08:21] <nosrednaekim> oaurono: and you ran "kdesu konqueror"?
[08:21] <Tm_T> fdoving: and I wasn't saying it's channel matter, just pointed my opinion
[08:21] <fdoving> Tm_T: ctcping a person isn't bad in any way. it's a feature, like ping.
[08:22] <arrautza> why if swiftfox if the 64 bit version of ff, ther is a 32 bit version of sf?
[08:22] <Tm_T> fdoving: yes I know, still don't like it
[08:22] <oaurono> yea and it said command konqueror not found
[08:22] <gnomefreak> arrautza: swiftfox is not firefox
[08:22] <gnomefreak> they are different browsers
[08:22] <erichj> swiftfox isn't even maintained anymore
[08:22] <arrautza> but is very the same
[08:22] <navets> im trying to run warcraft 3 with wine but it wont work with opengl, its very buggy
[08:22] <navets> can anyone help
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> oaurono: do you have konqueror installed?
[08:23] <oaurono> i don't know
[08:23] <fdoving> tm_t: then ignore ctcps in your irc-client. that's your choice.
[08:23] <oaurono> I just installed the os yesterday
[08:23] <oaurono> so...im kinda new
[08:23] <arrautza> so why everyone told me that it was a better version??
[08:24] <arrautza> wich is the diference between ff and sf?
[08:24] <Tm_T> fdoving: humtidum, I don't think this will gain anything, so let's say I was wrong (:
[08:24] <nosrednaekim> oaurono: try just running "konqueror"
[08:24] <nosrednaekim> hey BluesKaj!
[08:24] <Arwen> arrautza......
[08:24] <BluesKaj> hi nosrednaekim
[08:25] <Arwen> Firefox is just Firefox. Swiftfox is a proprietary mod to Firefox which supposedly increases performance.
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> oaurono: did it give you any errors?
[08:25] <fdoving> Tm_T: :)
[08:25] <oaurono> it wasn't installed
[08:25] <oaurono> doing it now
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> oaurono: ah..ok.
[08:26] <nosrednaekim> what were you using for a file manager, nautilus?
[08:26] <arrautza> ARWEN thks, wich is the meanig of propietary ??
[08:26] <Tm_T> fdoving: btw Plasmoids are fun (;
[08:26] <nosrednaekim> the gnome one?
[08:26] <kadaz> I unable to get flash9 working
[08:26] <Arwen> arrautza, I don't understand your question. Speak English.
[08:26] <arrautza> ARWEN thks, wich is the meanig of propietary ?? sorry to ask but english is not my native lenguage
[08:26] <fdoving> Tm_T: haven't tested them yet, might start a KDE4 session later if this cedega-stuff doesn't work well. playing with battlefield 2 and cedega. doesn't work well yet.
[08:26] <kadaz> I installed the flashnonfree plugin but it still doest work, does anyone  have any other options
[08:26] <nullkuhl> guys can any one tell me is kde or gnome better and state 5 reasons for it ?
[08:27] <oaurono> ok
[08:27] <oaurono> got it
[08:27] <oaurono> im using ubuntu
[08:27] <Arwen> arrautza, http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=proprietary
[08:27] <nosrednaekim> oaurono: so run "kdesu konqueror"
[08:27] <oaurono> does that matter
[08:27] <nullkuhl>  guys can any one tell me is kde or gnome better and state 5 reasons for it ?
[08:27] <oaurono> got it
[08:27] <nosrednaekim> oaurono: then you should go over to the #ubuntu channel
[08:27] <oaurono> thx
[08:27] <arrautza> hohoohoho
[08:28] <BluesKaj> nullkuhl, can you say , it's a matter of taste , 5 times ?
[08:28] <bch> and what you are used to
[08:28] <nosrednaekim> nullkuhl: kde is better, because gnomes mascot is a stinkin' foot.
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[08:29] <Arwen> nullkuhl, stop trying to start a flamewar. Thanks,
[08:29] <kadaz> nullkuhl  I got three, programs are better, less load on the system, the taskbar is great
[08:29] <zblach> hey navets
[08:29] <BluesKaj> there are not supposed to be any dumb questions but that one nullkuhl , gets very close
[08:29] <navets> zblach: hey bud
[08:30] <kadaz> espically when asked for a number of reasons.
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> does anyone use kiba-dock
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> ??
[08:30] <kadaz> :"D
[08:30] <zblach> navets: still need help with WCIII?
[08:31] <PriceChild> !best > nullkuhl (see the pm from ubotu)
[08:31] <kadaz> does that help your opinion nullkuhl?
[08:31] <navets> zblach: yup its starting to make me mad
[08:31] <PriceChild> BluesKaj, see !best next time... more polite :)
[08:31] <zblach> how far have you gotten?
[08:32] <just_john> hello
[08:32] <navets> zblach: ive sort of got things working. My main issue is I cant change the resolution weather I open warcraft regularly or with opengl, and when I open it with opengl it also gives me some werid colors on the main screen
[08:33] <nosrednaekim> just_john: hi
[08:33] <zblach> navets: you have wine emulate a desktop?
[08:33] <BluesKaj> PriceChild, just getting a bit grumpy in my old age and someone "demanding 5  reasons " for using a particular app when there too many options to list takes away some of my civility
[08:34] <PriceChild> BluesKaj, don't worry :)
[08:34] <navets> zblach: uhh I think so, but im not sure what you mean...
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Does anyone use / have used kiba-dock ?
[08:34] <BluesKaj> :)
[08:34] <zblach> navets: wineconfig
[08:35] <Sanne> I'd like to remove some unused default actions in konquerors right click menu (file manager mode) like "copy to" and "move to". Is this possible?
[08:36] <fdoving> Sanne: yes.
[08:36] <nosrednaekim> Sanne: yeah it is
[08:36] <nosrednaekim> Sanne: I saw a tutorial somwhere
[08:36] <just_john> does anybody know shipit.kubuntu.com?
[08:37] <navets> zblach: oh i see, no its not emulating a desktop
[08:37] <zblach> have it emulate a desktop
[08:37] <zblach> it'll run windowed, but you may not get the distortions
[08:37] <navets> zblach: k let me try it
[08:37] <Sanne> fdoving, nosrednaekim: I'm searching some time now... any idea how? Which files to edit? Those actions are not in the servicemenus directories.
[08:38] <fdoving> Sanne: hang on, i'll find it.
[08:38] <Sanne> fdoving: thank you :)
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> Sanne: I lost the bookmark, sorry
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: did it work?
[08:38] <navets> zblach: emulating a desktop is cool but didnt fix my problem
[08:39] <Sanne> nosrednaekim: no problem, thanks anyway :)
[08:39] <zblach> you're just having color & resolution errors?
[08:39] <BlueDevil> i've forced a specfic kernel version with dpkg --set-selections, how do i get adept updater to leave me alone for this package and not tell me constantly it needs upgrading?
[08:39] <navets> zblach: yes
[08:39] <BlueDevil> it's pretty annoying
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> yeah, I'd like to know that too BlueDevil
[08:39] <shatteredskye> nosred: yes it did
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: sweet.
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: any other problems?
[08:39] <shatteredskye> I don't know why i cant' rivate msg anymore though
[08:39] <navets> zblach: and i only get the color errors in opengl
[08:39] <just_john> does anybody know shipit.kubuntu.com?
[08:40] <BlueDevil> i forced it for a reason; would like to see that it's upgradeable in adept, but i want adept updater to leave me alone
[08:40] <BluesKaj> BlueDevil, just right click on the updater and choose quit and no restart
[08:40] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: you have to "/msg NICKSERV identify <password>
[08:40] <BlueDevil> BluesKaj: then it won't tell me that other packages need updating
[08:40] <fdoving> Sanne: kmenu -> run command -> 'kcmshell filebrowser' -> quick copy & move
[08:40] <shatteredskye> every time i get into the irc?
[08:40] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: what client are you using?
[08:40] <Sanne> fdoving: thanks, trying
[08:40] <shatteredskye> konversation
[08:41] <BluesKaj> BlueDevil, yup, that's the price ..but no more anmoyances
[08:41] <BlueDevil> nice tradeoff :)
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: there must be another way.
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> hmm..
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> if not thats pretty bad
[08:41] <BluesKaj> you can alwaus update manually
[08:42] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: you can set it to automatically give your password whenever you connect
[08:42] <fdoving> nosrednaekim, bluedevil, blueskaj: you can always hack /var/lib/dpkg/status manually. that would be, increase the versionnumber of your forced kernel, to have a higher version than the other available ones, you could use an epoch or something like that.
[08:42] <shatteredskye> let me guess - pre-shell command?
[08:42] <Sanne> fdoving: thanks... I didn't look in kontrol center... doh!
[08:42] <nosrednaekim> fdoving: eeewwww...
[08:43] <nosrednaekim> shatteredskye: no... inside konversation
[08:43] <fdoving> nosrednaekim: yeah, i know, it's evil.
[08:43] <BluesKaj> AAMOF I dumped the updater cuz it insisted on on trying to install apkg that was gonna break some others that i had installed
[08:43] <nosrednaekim> fdoving: doesn't apt have a "lock package version" flag or anything?
[08:44] <fdoving> nosrednaekim: yes, but adept notifier notifies anyway.
[08:44] <fdoving> it needs an ignore-list.
[08:44] <navets> zblach: sorry my comp froze when i tried to change resolution
[08:44] <Jack3> anyone good with grub
[08:44] <Sanne> fdoving: other actions I don't use would be Up, Back, Forward in the right click menu. Would you happen to know how I can remove them also?
[08:44] <nosrednaekim> fdoving: yeah.
[08:45] <BluesKaj> the notifier is a PITA
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: whats the problem?
[08:45] <fdoving> Sanne: not sure, try #kde (and i'd like to know too, if you find out)
[08:45] <Jack3> nosrednaekim, im trying to make a grub profile
[08:45] <Jack3> so i go to Ubuntu kernel 2.6.20-16-lowlatency and hit e
[08:45] <Sanne> fdoving: yeah, will do, thanks again :)
[08:45] <Jack3> then it shows me root, kernel, initrd, quiet and savedefault
[08:45] <Jack3> do i create a new line here called profile
[08:45] <Jack3> or do i edit kernel and add profile to the end of it
[08:46] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: ok...
[08:46] <WebAppMonkey> I have two sound-cards... and overnight, Kubuntu seems to have switched to use the wrong one through alsa... Any suggestions for restoring the default card?
[08:46] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: where is "here"? and what is a profile?
[08:46] <crimsun> WebAppMonkey: asoundconf list
[08:46] <crimsun> WebAppMonkey: what's the output?
[08:46] <WebAppMonkey> crimsun: Live       NVidia
[08:47] <MurDoGG> good evening
[08:47] <WebAppMonkey> crimsun: I want the Live
[08:47] <crimsun> WebAppMonkey: which is listed first (top-most)?
[08:47] <MurDoGG> have problems with the knetworkmanager, he doesn't show any wireless acesss but i can connect via console
[08:47] <MurDoGG> someone have a idea
[08:47] <WebAppMonkey> crimsun: Live
[08:47] <crimsun> WebAppMonkey: then your Live is card 0.  Did you create an asoundrc?
[08:48] <WebAppMonkey> crimsun: I did not, but I'll set that up, thanks for the command :)
[08:48] <WebAppMonkey> crimsun: I havn't played with alsa forever
[08:48] <Jack3> nosrednaekim, if you dont know what a profile is then i dont think you can help me, cause i dont either :p
[08:48] <crimsun> WebAppMonkey: you could use `asoundconf set-default-card Live`
[08:48] <crimsun> WebAppMonkey: then log out and back into KDE
[08:48] <WebAppMonkey> crimsun: Just did
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: lol
[08:49] <bonbonthejon> MurDoGG: i have the same problem, i just wrote a script that will scan for neetworks then connect then mount my shared drives
[08:50] <MurDoGG> but yesterday the knetworkmanager show it to me ^^
[08:50] <bonbonthejon> MurDoGG: it hasnt been workign for me for a few weeks, I think it has somethign to do with when i switched to ndiswrapper
[08:51] <BluesKaj> WebAppMonkey, an option for help is this page : http://alsa.opensrc.org/Main_Page
[08:51] <caleb_> OpenOffice renders fonts properly on KDE, but not GNOME... I wonder why that is.
[08:51] <MurDoGG> i don't use a ndiswrapper for my wlan adapter there is a driver availible (ipw3945)
[08:52] <MurDoGG> i have no idea why he makes such a trouble
[08:53] <BlueDevil> what's the adept updater equivalent for ubuntu?
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> BlueDevil: ubuntu has adept updater
[08:55] <BlueDevil> that's for kubuntu, right?
[08:56] <coreymon77> BlueDevil: it makes no difference
[08:56] <coreymon77> BlueDevil: ubuntu can use kubuntu programs and vice versa
[08:57] <coreymon77> BlueDevil: they are the same thing except one uses gnome and one uses kde
[08:57] <coreymon77> BlueDevil: the apps themselves are interchangeable
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> I have remove my power menu from my task bar
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> can anyone tell me how to get it back
[08:57] <coreymon77> right click
[08:58] <coreymon77> add applet to pannel
[08:58] <Sanne> fdoving: I asked in #kde and somebody checked about those default entries in the right click menu, and found it isn't possible to remove those.
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: Cheers dude
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: you rock
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: do you use kiba-dock per chance
[08:59] <coreymon77> ActionParsnip: i dont use a laptop
[09:00] <billytwowilly> anybody else having trouble getting sound out of .rm files in kaffeine?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: Its a sidebar for applications
[09:01] <coreymon77> nope
[09:01] <coreymon77> dont use sidebars
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: oh well, worth a shou
[09:01] <coreymon77> i just put any fequently used aplications onto my regular kmenu
[09:02] <coreymon77> billytwowilly: im having trouble getting sound period, but thats just because my sound card is fried
[09:02] <nullkuhl> lol , man i hate kde..
[09:02] <coreymon77> nullkuhl: why?
[09:02] <nullkuhl> gnome is zillion x better
[09:02] <BlueDevil> can gnome/gtk apps display an icon in the kde notification area?
[09:02] <nosrednaekim> nullkuhl: stop flaming
[09:02] <billytwowilly> coreymon77: that sucks.
[09:03] <coreymon77> BlueDevil: i believe so
[09:03] <nullkuhl> nosrednaekim: i aint flamin am sayin my opinioun ..
[09:03] <coreymon77> BlueDevil: gnome and kde apps are as far as i know, completely interchangeable
[09:03] <nosrednaekim> nullkuhl: yeah.... well...
[09:04] <coreymon77> nullkuhl: this is a kubuntu channel, kubuntu uses kde, if you like gnome, use ubuntu, if you dont need help or are not helping people and just want to talk about how bad kde is compared to gnome, please leave the channel
[09:04] <bonbonthejon> coreymon77: as long as  you have the right tool kit installed, they both follow FreeDesktop standards, meaning the notification area works the same
[09:04] <coreymon77> exactly
[09:05] <coreymon77> pidgin is a gtk app
[09:05] <coreymon77> and it shows in the notificatrion are
[09:05] <nullkuhl> coreymon77: yea yea yea ,, but still kde sux :P
[09:05] <coreymon77> a
[09:05] <coreymon77> nullkuhl: we respect your opinion, if thats all you are here for, once again, please leave
[09:05] <nullkuhl> well ur not one of the admins are u ?
[09:06] <bonbonthejon> coreymon77: i wish kopete was as strong as pidgin, but I love how kopete integrates with everything else
[09:06] <coreymon77> no
[09:06] <coreymon77> but i cant get one involved if i need to
[09:06] <nullkuhl> hmm it aint ur channel then to ask me to leave it
[09:06] <bonbonthejon> nullkuhl: I'm sure we could find one if we needed to
[09:06] <nullkuhl> k m a
[09:06] <WebAppMonkey> bonbonthejon: If you want Kopete to be stronger, join the development team?
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> nullkuhl: the mods are always available
[09:06] <coreymon77> nullkuhl: do i need to get an admin involved, cause i will
[09:07] <nullkuhl> lol again , k my a
[09:07] <coreymon77> perfect
[09:07] <WebAppMonkey> bonbonthejon: Projects are always looking for people, even for documentation (though I can make no promises of that for kopete) -- Something that requires only a small amount of technical knowledge about the inner workings.
[09:07] <coreymon77> a staffer just joined
[09:07] <coreymon77> nullkuhl: you were saying something about admins?
[09:07] <bonbonthejon> WebAppMonkey: i dont have time, but I was looking into making a patch for kweather
[09:07] <coreymon77> nullkuhl: now will you jswut elave quietly, or do we had to get them involved
[09:07] <nullkuhl> yeas i was sayin ur not an admin to ask me to leave
[09:08] <nullkuhl> and i aint leavin
[09:08] <nullkuhl> ill leave whenever i wanna leav
[09:08] <WebAppMonkey> /ignore nullkuhl
[09:08] <bonbonthejon> ha, unless an admin kicks you
[09:08] <WebAppMonkey> grrr
[09:08] <WebAppMonkey> What is that command?
[09:08] <nosrednaekim> nullkuhl: if you don't flame, you can stay
[09:08] <nullkuhl> again also,, i was flamin i was sayin an opinioun
[09:09] <nullkuhl> coreymon77: :P
[09:09] <coreymon77> if you want to help, or need help, by all means stay, but if you are here jsut to flame, then please leave
[09:10] <nullkuhl> coreymon77: fine then,, a question came, how to set dolphin as the default filemanager instead of konqurer in kde
[09:10] <bonbonthejon> anyone else trying gutsy?
[09:11] <nosrednaekim> bonbonthejon: I'm not... if you want help with that (bugs,etc) go to #kubuntu-devel
[09:11] <nullkuhl> bonbonthejon: u have gutsy ?
[09:12] <nullkuhl>  how to set dolphin as the default filemanager instead of konqurer in kde
[09:12] <bonbonthejon> nullkuhl: yes
[09:12] <stdin> nullkuhl: you can set directories to open on dolphin by setting the association (like setting a file association)
[09:12] <coreymon77> bonbonthejon: gutsy stuff is in #ubuntu+1
[09:12] <BlueDevil> nosrednaekim: i found a solution using update-notifier from ubuntu
[09:13] <BlueDevil> missed him
[09:13] <BluesKaj> just upgraded with synaptic and of course it edited the  /etc/X11/xorg.conf and removed the overlay commands for tvtime ...some upgrade :)
[09:14] <BlueDevil> BluesKaj: synaptic? or the packages that you upgraded?
[09:14] <BluesKaj> both
[09:15] <stdin> hmm, what is the name of the battery monitor in kubuntu?
[09:16] <coreymon77> prob kbatterymonietor
[09:16] <coreymon77> try the basics, what it is and then add a k to the beggining
[09:16] <coreymon77> otherwise, apt-cache search is your firend
[09:16] <fdoving> stdin: guidance-power-manager
[09:17] <BluesKaj> BlueDevil, i was able to readd the commands in the xorg.conf file but my annoyance is that it automatically strips commands it doesn't have in it's own text
[09:17] <stdin> fdoving: ahh, that it
[09:17] <BluesKaj> re-add
[09:19] <BlueDevil> can i install the gnome "control panel" on kde to be able to configure settings for gnome apps?
[09:19] <coreymon77> sure, i believe so
[09:19] <BluesKaj> whynot just add the apps to theK-menu ?
[09:20] <BlueDevil> coreymon77: do you know the name of the package?
[09:20] <coreymon77> i dunno
[09:20] <coreymon77> again
[09:20] <juan> hello all!
[09:20] <BlueDevil> BluesKaj: huh?
[09:20] <coreymon77> apt-cache search is your friend
[09:20] <juan> i have a small problem with grub and dual boot
[09:20] <stdin> BlueDevil: or ask in #ubuntu
[09:21] <BluesKaj> sorry BlueDevil i misread ... fingers were ingear before the logic kicked in :)
[09:21] <coreymon77> juan: whats the matter?
[09:21] <stdin> BlueDevil: i think it's gconf or something
[09:22] <BlueDevil> looks to be gnome-control-center
[09:22] <BlueDevil> installing
[09:22] <juan> my grub doesn't read my hdb where i have installed zenwalk, what do i have to do in order for grub to recognize zen?
[09:24] <coreymon77> BlueDevil: why not just install ubuntu-desktop, you can then use all of the gnome apps in kde
[09:25] <coreymon77> BlueDevil: and you will get the gnome configuration tools
[09:25] <juan> coreymon77, any ideas?
[09:25] <coreymon77> juan: no clue
[09:26] <gellioth> thanks to all the people that was helpping me in configuring my kubuntu (bed english)
[09:26] <gellioth> bad english
[09:26] <coreymon77> gellioth: no problem, tahts what we are here for
[09:26] <gellioth> :-)
[10:56] (gellioth/#kubuntu) trakinas: ?
[10:56] (intelikey/#kubuntu) it that all ?
[10:56] (marko_/#kubuntu) well
[10:56] (marko_/#kubuntu) there are many
[10:56] (marko_/#kubuntu) like
[10:56] (marko_/#kubuntu) this
[10:56] (marko_/#kubuntu) ind: /var/tmp/kdecache-root: Permission denied
[10:56] (marko_/#kubuntu) but are all
[10:56] (marko_/#kubuntu) permission denied
[10:57] (intelikey/#kubuntu) find /var -type f -iname *lock* 2>/dev/null | grep deb
[10:57] (trakinas/#kubuntu) gellioth: on the app?
[10:57] (intelikey/#kubuntu) any output ?
[10:57] (gellioth/#kubuntu) Ive killed the desktop... help?
[10:57] (trakinas/#kubuntu) just its command
[10:57] <marko_> intelikey,  nop
[10:57] <intelikey> marko sudo it
[10:57] <trakinas> gellioth: Im kind of busy and didnt understand what you meant with what you should put
[10:58] <marko_> intelikey,  nothing
[10:58] <marko_> either
[10:58] <intelikey> marko_ drop the | grep  and pastebin the output
[10:58] <gellioth> trakinas: last one Ive killed the desktop what can I do?
[10:59] <stdin> wouldn't "sudo fuser -vik /var/cache/debconf/config.dat" do it?
[10:59] <marko_> intelikey, what ?
[10:59] <marko_> only
[10:59] <marko_> find /var -type f -iname *lock* 2>/dev/null
[10:59] <marko_> ?
[10:59] <intelikey> stdin you think config.dat it's self is locked without a lock file ?
[10:59] <gellioth> trakinas: anly that and I will not disturb you more?
[10:59] <intelikey> marko_ yes
[10:59] <marko_> i did
[10:59] <marko_> should i paste
[10:59] <marko_> it here ?
[10:59] <marko_> it's a lot
[10:59] <gellioth> sorry..only
[10:59] <stdin> intelikey: that's what the message suggests
[11:00] <intelikey> not in here.   pasetbin marko_
[11:00] <marko_> pasetbin ?
[11:00] <marko_> what's that
[11:00] <intelikey> stdin hmm we'll try it.
[11:00] <trakinas> gellioth: no problem
[11:00] <intelikey> marko_ try stdin's sujestion first.
[11:00] <intelikey> marko_ sudo fuser -vik /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[11:01] <stdin> intelikey: a "sudo lsof|grep config.dat" is another way to see if something has it too
[11:01] <marko_> Kill process 9127 ? (y/N)
[11:01] <marko_> yes ?
[11:01] <intelikey> y
[11:01] <marko_> did it
[11:01] <marko_> what now
[11:01] <intelikey> sudo aptitude install -f
[11:02] <intelikey> stdin you nailed,   good call
[11:02] <marko_> intelikey,
[11:02] <marko_> no errors this time
[11:02] <marko_> what now
[11:02] <intelikey> you're fixed
[11:02] <marko_> should i
[11:02] <marko_> install
[11:02] <marko_> perl
[11:02] <marko_> back ?
[11:02] <marko_> right ?
[11:02] <intelikey> why ?
[11:02] <intelikey> you have perl.
[11:02] <stdin> enter
[11:02] <marko_> no
[11:02] <stdin> is
[11:02] <stdin> not
[11:03] <stdin> punctuation
[11:03] <marko_> you don't understand dude
[11:03] <marko_> i used the command
[11:03] <marko_> sudo apt-get remove perl in shell
[11:03] <marko_> then i saw it's removing everything
[11:03] <marko_> then i closed the shell
[11:03] <marko_> and now there is everything different
[11:03] <intelikey> marko_ you don't understand dude you have perl.    ls /usr/bin/prel*
[11:03] <marko_> well any whay
[11:03] <marko_> why
[11:03] <marko_> is there no
[11:03] <marko_> konqueror ?
[11:04] <stdin> prel?
[11:04] <marko_> many programs got deleted
[11:04] <stdin> you mean perl
[11:04] <marko_> and i don't know why
[11:04] <intelikey> cause the part to perlmodules you removed took kde with it...
[11:04] <intelikey> yeah perl*
[11:04] <marko_> in the
[11:04] <marko_> K menu
[11:04] <marko_> you know left botom
[11:04] <marko_> ther ius no
[11:04] <marko_> Add/Remove
[11:04] <marko_> and stuff
[11:05] <intelikey> marko_ kde got deleted.    if you want it back install it.
[11:05] <stdin> marko_: just do "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-base ubuntu-standard kubuntu-desktop"
[11:05] <intelikey> or kde
[11:05] <marko_> ok
[11:05] <marko_> i did like
[11:05] <marko_> stdin,  sayd
[11:06] <intelikey> not all he  sayd
[11:06] <stdin> the first two are the most important anyway
[11:06] <marko_> btw i have
[11:06] <intelikey> !enter | marko_
[11:06] <ubotu> marko_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:06] <marko_> kubuntu
[11:06] <marko_> ok sorry sorry
[11:07] <intelikey> stdin not got a good "tinyURL" script have you ?
[11:07] <stdin> intelikey: not anymore, no
[11:07] <intelikey> k
[11:07] <mravilet> hi
[11:07] <mravilet> i have a cuestion
[11:07] <trakinas> gellioth: find on google how to add new links on desktop on kde
[11:08] <mravilet> any can help me?
[11:08] <intelikey> trakinas & gellioth that would be ahhh   right click the desktop and create.....
[11:09] <trakinas> mravilet: dont ask to ask
[11:09] <trakinas> intelikey: saw the link?
[11:09] <mravilet> trakinas I don't install kubuntu in my laptop
[11:09] <mravilet> is a HP pavilon 6220la
[11:10] <eXistenz> my ntfs partitions have vanished out of the blue =x
[11:10] <trakinas> you mean it failed to install??
[11:10] <marko_> intelikey,  and stdin  thanks you two saved my life
[11:10] <intelikey> hardly.
[11:10] <marko_> :P
[11:10] <mravilet> kubuntu support laptop HP pavilon 6220la?
[11:11] <sercik>  Hi i have a problem with X.. when i boot my system X gives an error and doesn't start.. th eerror is that nvidia kernel module and X modulre are not the same version.
[11:12] <snowdonkey> sercik: Have you tried isntalling your Nvidia drivers using Engy?
[11:12] <snowdonkey> Envy
[11:12] <mravilet> anybody knows if is a possible install kubuntu in HP laptops?
[11:13] <mravilet> in special the model Pavilon dv 6220la
[11:13] <sercik> envy
[11:13] <sercik> ?
[11:13] <sercik> no
[11:13] <intelikey> stdin you are correct.  that particular error message does sujest that it was the .dat file,  i've taught others to read the error messages and failed to do so.... "...they that can, do; and, they that can't..."   ;/
[11:13] <sercik> i have installe nvidia-glx and all works... then i have installed nvidia-glx-new to have a newer verion of driver and noww  i have problems
[11:14] <sercik> the strange is that if i do a rmmod nvidia and then startx X starts
[11:14] <snowdonkey> sercik: It's a package that can automatically install Nvidia or ATI drivers for you.  I've gotten the same message you have a few times, & installing w/ envy fixed it.  :-/
[11:14] <mravilet> sercik install the official driver for nvidia, you can found this driver in www.nividia.com
[11:14] <snowdonkey> sercik: I haven't tried the repos-drivers myself.  Couldn't get them to work.  http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[11:14] <sercik> ok but don't like automated tasks
[11:14] <crdlb> snowdonkey, please don't recommend envy
[11:15] <crdlb> sercik, that can be fixed
[11:15] <sercik> Hi crdlb! i'm sure sure that can be fied
[11:15] <crdlb> sercik, open your /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[11:15] <sercik> i have done a rmmond nvidia and then startx and x starts without problem
[11:15] <brokenthorn> Just testing to see what Konversation looks like ;)
[11:15] <brokenthorn> Anybody care to share their opinion?
[11:15] <ace> can somebody assist please? am stuck with installing ndiswrapper-driver on a fresh 7.10
[11:16] <brokenthorn> I myself prefer command line irc clients
[11:16] <sercik> ok crdlb now?
[11:16] <crdlb> sercik, set DISABLED_MODULES="nvidia_legacy nvidia"
[11:16] <crdlb> that will force it to use nvidia_new
[11:17] <intelikey> brokenthorn last time i looked it was black on white </gags>
[11:17] <ace> ~$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[11:17] <ace> alias wlan0 ndiswrapper
[11:17] <sercik> ok i have donw it
[11:17] <sercik> thank you crdlb
[11:17] <crdlb> sercik, now reboot and hopefully it'll work
[11:17] <sercik> the strange think is that i can't find a module called nvidia under /lib/modules
[11:18] <crdlb> yes it's copied over at boot
[11:18] <sercik> but if i do lsmod i can see nvidia
[11:18] <sercik> ah
[11:18] <sercik> incredible
[11:18] <crdlb> it's kind of a weird system
[11:18] <intelikey> sercik hardly.   it's in the initramfs.img-`uname -r`
[11:18] <sercik> but if i understand i have two copies of nvidia driver on my system the old and the new...
[11:19] <sercik> is not possible to delete the old version of nvidia kernel?
[11:19] <crdlb> sercik, the linux-restricted-modules package includes all three versoins of the nvidia module
[11:19] <brokenthorn> intelikey: heh
[11:19] <sercik> uau
[11:19] <crdlb> legacy glx and new
[11:19] <sercik> now i know another thing
[11:19] <sercik> i have told with many people that have had the same problem
[11:19] <brokenthorn> sercik: I don't have any problems gettng my nvidia to work, never had :D
[11:19] <sercik> now i know hos to gelp him
[11:20] <intelikey> sercik you'll "probably" have to rebuild the initramfs.img to stop the old module from loading       or a kernel command line option....
[11:20] <sercik> i have installed two version of X drivers
[11:20] <sercik> i need to restart to test is the method works.. see you soon
[11:20] <intelikey> brokenthorn i have problems getting nvidia driver to work on this box.   the card is not supported or something
[11:20] <sercik> goodbye! see you soon
[11:21] <crdlb> intelikey, is it an 8800 or something?
[11:21] <intelikey> no   riva128
[11:21] <brokenthorn> intelikey: what chipset is the card using, and what's the motheboard's chipset?
[11:21] <crdlb> intelikey, oh wow
[11:21] <crdlb> indeed it isn't
[11:21] <crdlb> the tnt was the first supported nvidia card
[11:21] <brokenthorn> intelikey: riva128 should be easy, though I don't have one
[11:21] <mravilet> anybody help me?
[11:21] <mravilet> please
[11:22] <mravilet> i need install kubuntu in my laptop
[11:22] <mravilet> HP pavilon dv 6220
[11:22] <mravilet> but not to work 
[11:22] <intelikey> brokenthorn and apolo  on the mb
[11:22] <brokenthorn> intelikey: but I think there might be a problem iif you use the rivafb along with the X drivers
[11:22] <brokenthorn> intelikey: yeah, I sold my apolo long ago :P
[11:22] <intelikey> brokenthorn he  the fb will work the rest wont.  :)
[11:23] <trakinas> mravilet: what happens when you try to install?
[11:23] <intelikey> and yes i tried the other without the fb module loaded
[11:23] <brokenthorn> intelikey: just that, the X driver will not work if you use the fb driver. same goes with any ati
[11:23] <mravilet> finishied the proccess and start to boot
[11:23] <intelikey> as i said,  ^
[11:23] <mravilet> but, not display nothing
[11:24] <trakinas> mravilet: lspci
[11:24] <mravilet> uhmm si?
[11:24] <trakinas> mravilet: i mean, type lspci in the command line
[11:24] <trakinas> if it booted properly
[11:24] <mravilet> i dont, dont boot
[11:25] <mravilet> no booted properly
[11:25] <sercik> thank you crdlb it works
[11:25] <mravilet> ne becomes paralyzed in the beginning
[11:26] <mravilet> in the booted process
[11:26] <sercik> *** I want to thanks crdlb jucato Admiral_Chicago zipper (and sorry if i don't remember all names) that have changed my linux experience and have let me love linux ubuntu ***
[11:26] <trakinas> mravilet: no output error msg?
[11:26] <intelikey> brokenthorn so i asked for help one time and this fellow tried to get it going,,, came up with a page that explained that it wasn't supported...    that was the second 'go round' i had with trying to make propritary drivers work with this agp card...  it's a no show.
[11:27] <trakinas> can anyone help me to configure grub?
[11:27] <mravilet> trakinas not, why not diaplay nothing
[11:27] <sercik> trakinas: i can
[11:27] <sercik> tell me!
[11:27] <trakinas> sercik: http://pastebin.ca/567171 --> it does not show the last kernel on the list
[11:28] <sercik> trakinas: have you installed a new kernel version?
[11:29] <brokenthorn> intelikey: The riva needs proprietaru drivers?
[11:29] <sercik> in menu.lst appears 2.6.20-16 and 2.6.20-15 which is the problem?
[11:29] <mravilet> where see laptop support for linux?
[11:29] <mravilet> where can see this information?
[11:29] <mravilet> anybody knows?
[11:30] <intelikey> brokenthorn needs ?  no.   the console hardly ever needs vidio drivers  hehhe
[11:30] <trakinas> mravilet: i really cant help you right now! :/
[11:30] <trakinas> sercik: yep
[11:30] <trakinas> sercik: custom kernel. by hand
[11:30] <mravilet> trakinas the model is HP PAVILON DV 6220LA
[11:30] <sercik> which is the problem??
[11:30] <brokenthorn> intelikey: if you want the proprietary drivers, you need the legacy nvidia drivers
[11:30] <trakinas> mravilet: Im busy
[11:30] <mravilet> you know it?
[11:30] <mravilet> trakinas ?
[11:31] <brokenthorn> intelikey: if you want the free driver for X, use riva
[11:31] <intelikey> brokenthorn i just thought i'd see what i could get out of the card and see if i could learn a little about what people faced when trying to install Nvidia (R) drivers
[11:31] <brokenthorn> intelikey: It's been a breeze installing both Nvidia and Ati in my case
[11:31] <trakinas> i dunno
[11:31] <mravilet> trakinas o.k don't worry men
[11:31] <brokenthorn> intelikey: radeon 9200, and geforce4 mx440
[11:31] <intelikey> brokenthorn yeah like i said the driver installs fine,  just doesn't work.
[11:31] <sercik> trakinas: why do you ask for help?
[11:32] <sercik> i can't undersatand your problem
[11:32] <brokenthorn> intelikey: well, they always worked for me :P
[11:32] <intelikey> ;/
[11:32] <brokenthorn> intelikey: you're just like my friend :)
[11:32] <trakinas> sercik: ive added it to grub list
[11:32] <trakinas> but it is not being shown
[11:33] <mravilet> update-grub
[11:33] <sercik> do you mean is not shown at bootup?
[11:34] <trakinas> sercik: yes
[11:34] <sercik> i think that mravilet have told the silution
[11:34] <sercik> try to tun sudo update-grub
[11:34] <sercik> You have more than one distribution installed are you sure that you edited the correct manu.lst
[11:34] <sercik> ??
[11:35] <brokenthorn> intelikey: "At the time, ATI had their Rage series and nVidia had their Riva 128, but the Voodoo I blew them all away."
[11:35] <brokenthorn> intelikey: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux-Gamers-HOWTO/x608.html ;)
[11:35] <Contrast> Does anyone know if it's possible to get the status bar in Konqueror to not show up, especially in fullscreen mode?
[11:35] <sercik> because it is possible that grub is installed from sidux and that you have updated menu.lst in ubuntu
[11:35] <sercik> for example
[11:36] <sercik> trakinas ok now?
[11:36] <sercik> have you understood your problem?
[11:36] <sercik> my english is not good but intelikey have told my same thing in a better english
[11:36] <trakinas> sercik: one sec
[11:37] <mravilet> sercik you speake spanish?
[11:37] <sercik> no italian
[11:37] <mravilet> ahho.k
[11:37] <coreymon77> !es | mravilet
[11:37] <ubotu> mravilet: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:38] <sercik> i don't know why... but many people asks me if i speak spanish
[11:38] <sercik> my english seems a spanish that speaks in english?? :)
[11:38] <sercik> ubotu don't break my balls
[11:38] <trakinas> sercik: ive already
[11:38] <intelikey> brokenthorn and ?   </shrugs>
[11:39] <trakinas> sercik: it updates grub *removing* the added lines
[11:39] <trakinas> =P
[11:39] <ace> anybody fit with ndiswrapper?
[11:39] <brokenthorn> intelikey: It's just an interesting article. I thought you might like it.
[11:39] <sercik> do uoi mean that now menu.lst contains only 2.6.20-15?
[11:40] <intelikey> sercik yes it does seem "latino" in origen
[11:41] <sercik> intelikey: i think that construct italian and spahish are similar
[11:41] <trakinas> i have to go to college now. thanks anyway
[11:41] <nosrednaekim> sercik: yes, they are. almost identical really
[11:41] <trakinas> cheers all
[11:41] <nosrednaekim> see ya
[11:41] <sercik> trakinas: are you sure that the name of initrd or vmlinuz is correct in the lines you add?
[11:41] <intelikey> trakinas use ubuntu.pastebin.us and post the output of   cat /boot/grub/menu.lst ;ls /boot
[11:42] <intelikey> sercik indeed...
[11:42] <sercik> sorry trakinas: do you like sidus?
[11:43] <sercik> Sidux
[11:43] <intelikey> -:- SignOff trakinas: #kubuntu ("Konversation terminated!"
[11:45] <intelikey> hmmm i did startkde and my kde is blank...
[11:46] <intelikey> well, not blank,  it has a blue background...
[11:46] <intelikey> and a mouse cursor,   but; other than that, it's blank.
[11:47] <nosrednaekim> alt+f2 do anything?
[11:47] <intelikey> not a thing
[11:48] <xerosis_> intelikey: full disk?
[11:48] <intelikey> 64%
[11:48] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: interesting
[11:48] <intelikey> indeed
[11:49] <intelikey> maybe running it inside twm is not so good ???
[11:50] <nosrednaekim> can't you start kdm?
[11:50] <intelikey> kdm is eval
[11:50] <intelikey> and i could but i wont
[11:51] <nosrednaekim> ho about startkde from the command lin?
[11:51] <intelikey> i did,   but in twm in an xterm  that might have tainted it i guess
[11:52] <intelikey> startkde does not "startx"
[11:52] <nosrednaekim> maybe...try doing it from a bare CLI.
[11:52] <nosrednaekim> then do startx!
[11:52] <intelikey> you have to do something like     X & sleep 7 ;startkde
[11:53] <intelikey> nosrednaekim heheh that's how i got to twm   "startx"  heh
[11:53] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: no you don't....
[11:53] <nosrednaekim> you can set the default WM.
[11:53] <intelikey> yeah you can.
[11:54] <nosrednaekim> then set it to be kde
[11:54] <nosrednaekim> and then do startx
[11:54] <intelikey> what's the name ?     kwin ?
[11:55] <nosrednaekim> yeah, I think so
[12:01] <intelikey> oh will it matter that     until never ;do rm -r /root ;done    is running in another shell ?
[12:04] <intelikey> i guess it does,  it's still blank,   the only differance is that it died.
[12:05] <michael__> um
[12:05] <michael__> is it normal for xorg to take 500mb ram
[12:06] <intelikey> it's normal for it to allocate about 70% of the free ram  and use about 1m
[12:06] <intelikey> !ram
[12:06] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[12:06] <michael__> is this bad?
[12:06] <intelikey> no
[12:07] <michael__> seems like it might be pushing things to use swap, since i only have 500mb physical ram
[12:07] <intelikey> michael__ free
[12:07] <michael__> that a command?
[12:07] <intelikey> yes
[12:07] <michael__> says is have 6766 free
[12:08] <intelikey> no
[12:08] <michael__> ?
[12:08] <intelikey> see the second line   the +/- buffer
[12:08] <michael__> yerh
[12:08] <intelikey> that's the actual used/free
[12:08] <michael__> free 109,000
[12:08] <intelikey> k
[12:09] <michael__> i havent played classical in along time
[12:09] <michael__> frick
[12:09] <michael__> wrong channel
[12:09] <michael__> :P
[12:10] <intelikey> michael__ also the swap is listed
[12:10] <michael__> yeh
[12:10] <intelikey> i don't use swap but it's still listed
[12:10] <intelikey> Swap: 0 0 0
[12:12] <intelikey> hehhe    free -g      :)
[12:12] <intelikey> now that's rounded  :)
[12:13] <intelikey> -g gig -m meg -b bytes  and defaults to -k kilobytes