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ubotuNew bug: #120276 in launchpad "No system to request email reminders for bugs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12027612:26
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rusty_I just create a new project that i some how managed to screw up the name such that instead of it being called 'zi9-config', the name is my user name yet the displayed name is correct.  Soo... how can i delete my new project to redo the creation process?12:38
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rusty_my project is "https://code.launchpad.net/rusty-lynch-intel/", but i wanted it to be called 'zi9-config'12:40
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kiko-afkhey rusty_ 12:42
kiko-afkone sec.12:42
rusty_ok, cool12:43
ubotuNew bug: #120279 in rosetta "Refactor TranslationImporter.import_file to use smaller methods" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12027912:45
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theforkofjusticeany admins here?01:44
theforkofjusticei just need one :)01:44
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jelmertheforkofjustice: you may want to ask on the support tracker on lp.net01:50
thumpertheforkofjustice: kiko-afk is afk atm01:51
theforkofjusticei posted a question in 'launchpad answers' will this do? (navigating for support in LP isn't very intuitive)01:51
jelmertheforkofjustice: yeah, if it's against the launchpad "product"01:52
jelmerthumper: are there any australian admins?01:52
theforkofjusticei need my project's section changed to a super-project01:52
theforkofjusticedont think that wil qualify :\01:53
jelmertheforkofjustice: I think that's ok01:53
theforkofjusticeoh good. lets hope that works then01:54
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theforkofjusticethanks a lot01:54
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thumperjelmer: I don't think so, lemmie check02:07
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mpt_Gooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!04:00
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ubotuNew bug: #120309 in launchpad "Portlet headings aren't focusable, so can't be expanded with a keyboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12030904:55
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ubotuNew bug: #120341 in launchpad "Improve test suite speed using savepoints for database resets" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12034108:00
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ubotuNew bug: #120357 in malone "Improve the accept/decline/nochange column on +nominations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12035710:35
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ubotuNew bug: #120362 in launchpad-answers "impossible to delete a project!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12036210:51
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ubotuNew bug: #120366 in rosetta "Test file format support using interface tests" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12036611:46
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cprovmorning, folks01:45
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seb128https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maxemumtvguide/+filebug doesn't let me submit a bug because '"maxemumtvguide" does not exist in Ubuntu'02:02
seb128is that because there is no binary package available yet?02:02
seb128in which case shouldn't it hide the "file a bug" option?02:02
seb128rather than let me describe a problem and not accept it then02:02
seb128I've a bug to report against the source package which I just accept from NEW ;)02:03
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ubotuNew bug: #120393 in blueprint "roadmap incorrectly show spec as dangling" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12039302:10
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mptSteveA, here today?03:57
SteveAmpt: yep, here03:57
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mptI saw on the agenda that you might be travelling, and was ~80% sure that was left over from last week, so thought I'd check03:59
SteveAhi Hobbsee 03:59
SteveAmpt: yes, a left-over03:59
bigjoolsooo nearly meeting time03:59
mptWho wants chocolate pudding?04:00
SteveAWelcome all04:00
Hobbseempt: me!!!!04:00
sinzuime fa so la di da04:00
SteveAto this week's Launchpad Development meeting04:00
SteveAwho is here today?04:00
tlaxnot me04:00
allenapand I'd like a chocholate pudding04:01
SteveAddaa is on vacation04:01
SteveAplease look and see if the other people on your team are here04:01
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SteveAthe agenda...04:03
carlosdanilos: copycat!04:03
SteveA== Agenda ==04:03
SteveA * Roll call04:03
SteveA * Agenda04:03
SteveA * Next meeting04:03
SteveA * Actions from last meeting04:03
SteveA * Oops report (Matsubara)04:03
SteveA * Bug report ([wiki:JoeyStanford/topweeklybugs Current Top Items] )04:03
SteveA * Bug tags04:03
SteveA * Operations report (mthaddon)04:03
SteveA * DBA report (stub)04:03
SteveA * Sysadmin requests ([wiki:JoeyStanford/toprtrequests Current Queue] )04:03
SteveA * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)04:03
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SteveA * How pre-implementation phone calls are going (barry)04:03
SteveA * New launchpad-documentation project (mrevell)04:03
SteveA * Directory names on devpad:/code/<acct> should be deliverable canonical addresses (bac)04:03
SteveA * (other items)04:03
SteveA * Team three sentences (next time blockers only) ([wiki:ProjectTeams Team List] )04:03
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SteveAnext meeting -- same time next week please04:04
SteveAanyone won't be here?04:04
bigjools_nice, I just had a power surge, hope the UPS holds out04:04
SteveAI know that ddaa will still be on vacation04:04
BjornTi'll be on vacation next thursday04:04
=== ..[topic/#launchpad:mpt] : Launchpad https://launchpad.net/ | Next developer meeting: Thu 21 June 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Launchpad help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39
SteveAActions from the last meeting04:04
kikoI will be here next thursday.04:04
SteveAThere we no actions04:05
SteveAKiko wanted to note about tomorrow04:05
SteveAthat he'll be away04:05
SteveAI'll be away tomorrow in the afternoon (my time)04:05
kikoI won't be here tomorrow. Rinchen is standing in for me. Call me if you need me, my phone will be on.04:05
kikoand mthaddon and I need to book a call at the end of the day when i have connectivity again.04:05
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SteveAI'll be available for calls up to 1630 UTC04:06
SteveAfor things that need my urgent attention04:06
mthaddonkiko: sounds good04:06
SteveAor if you just feel kinda lonely and want to, you know...04:06
SteveAoops, wrong meeting04:06
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SteveAwith no further delay, matsubara with the OOPS report04:06
matsubaraToday's oops report is about bug 11978004:07
matsubarastub, is there any workaround for it?04:07
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119780 in launchpad "GIN indexes cause some slow queries to fail entirely" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119780 - Assigned to Stuart Bishop (stub)04:07
stubNo. We need to revert the indexes or put up with it until it is fixed upstream.04:07
kikoI asked stub about this in bugmail too!04:07
stubWe getting many hits?04:07
kikostub, no query rewriting possible etc?04:07
SteveAstub: what's the word from upstream?04:07
matsubarastub: nope, only 2 since last week04:07
stubNo word from upstream yet - I only briefly mentioned on IRC.04:08
kikodoesn't sound like upstream's moving very fast on this04:08
SteveAstub: we can consider paying someone to do this work04:08
stubOk. I'll poke the mailing list and maybe the developers directly.04:08
stubACTION: stub to poke upstream developers about GIN limitations04:08
SteveAI mean, I don't want to pay for something that'll be fixed already04:09
SteveAor if the work is underway04:09
matsubarathere's a proposal to fix it in the pgsql list but no reply yet. stub, would that proposal fix our case?04:09
SteveAif it's not a priority otherwise04:09
SteveAwe can talk about it04:09
stubmatsubara: I haven't seen the proposal04:09
stubOh - that one.04:10
matsubarastub: you added to the bug!04:10
stubI haven't seen any replies, and it was old.04:10
stubUpstream don't use bug trackers though so it might have gone out of band04:10
kikopgsql don't use a bug tracker?04:10
stubnope. mailing list.04:11
kikoyou said it man04:11
jtvstub: they have one _somewhere_04:11
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jtvstub: it's just something they don't expose.  You see references to numbered bugs sometimes.04:11
SteveAI know of a place where a project such as this can host a bug tracker04:11
SteveAwith support04:11
SteveAfor free04:11
Rinchennow where did I put my copy of mysql ;-)04:11
stubjtv: I was told there were key developers who just wouldn't use it so it never materialized.04:11
Rinchenindeed SteveA 04:11
matsubaraanyway, I'm done here. thanks stub. back to you SteveA 04:11
SteveAwhat's all this "they" ?04:12
SteveApostgresql is an open source project04:12
stubIs two oopses a week enough to worry about fixing? We had two five minute outages converting and I would expect similar reverting.04:12
stubAnd an upstream fix won't really be useful to us until 8.3(.1) is released.04:13
kikowe could have a backported patch installed04:13
SteveAstub: do the two oopses mean that a specific feature won't work?04:13
kikobut two oopses a week is not much.04:13
SteveAI mean, a specific launchpad feature?04:13
SteveAor is it kinda random?04:13
stubSteveA: There are certain searches which will just fail.04:13
SteveAfull text searches?04:13
Rinchenmy 2 pence: the performance gain from GIN offsets 2 oops per week04:13
stubIt isn't random - just certain text searches.04:14
Rinchencan the be reworked?04:14
danilosRinchen: 2 oops per week is infinitely worse than the goal of 0 oops per week, though04:14
stubRinchen: Performance gains where not as significant as I hoped04:14
matsubaraI'll keep an eye on it. If it starts to happen more often I'll nag someone (likely to be stub.)04:15
SteveAwe'r good04:15
matsubarastub: shall I decrease the bug importance to medium then?04:15
SteveAstub: if we did pay for this, a backport to 8.2 would be part of the deal04:15
SteveA * Bug report ([wiki:JoeyStanford/topweeklybugs Current Top Items] )04:16
RinchenThanks stub for fixing Bug #65800 04:16
ubotuLaunchpad bug 65800 in launchpad "staging. and demo. should obviously be demos" [Critical,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/65800 - Assigned to Stuart Bishop (stub)04:16
stubSteveA: In some way I'd rather revert than run non-standard versions of pg04:16
RinchenBug #62612, first reported on 2006-09-27. The issue here is that while we have cleaned up a bit more, we're still running about 90% on the utilization of a 450gig drive. I've promoted up cprov's spec to essential to 1.1.7 but it has to pass cycle planning next week. mthaddon, anything to add?04:16
ubotuLaunchpad bug 62612 in soyuz "Need a drescher disk space strategy" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/62612 - Assigned to Tom Haddon (mthaddon)04:16
mthaddonRinchen: as noted on IRC I also need to follow up with IS about failing deletions for this bug04:17
Rinchenright. I believe I added that into the ticket. 04:17
SteveAstub: I'd hope that this would go into 8.2.x04:17
SteveAstub: anyway, not a great worry for now04:17
RinchenOk, I'll work with kiko and cprov to see if can't get that scheduled for the next round04:17
Rinchenbigjools, why is Bug #119918 a bug? Sounds like a spec task to me?04:17
mthaddonI don't know how much of a difference that will make, but perhaps we could revisit once that's taken care of04:17
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119918 in soyuz "Add new dbschema item for archive semantics" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119918 - Assigned to Julian Edwards (julian-edwards)04:17
Rinchenmthaddon, yes, thanks.04:18
bigjools_Rinchen: yes it's part of the 1.1.7 work so that it can be tracked04:18
cprovRinchen: I just wan't to note that the archive-removal spec, as it is (not removing anything), is not going to solve drescher's disk problem, it aims to split the archive in a way we safe disk space on mirrors.04:18
kikoRinchen, we broke up the spec in a few bugs04:18
kikoit's all good and healthy fun04:19
Rinchenbigjools_, kiko - wouldn't mini-specs be more appropriate than a critical bug?04:19
Rinchencprov, if that's the case then the comments in the bug are incorrect and this is still a bug04:20
cprovRinchen: yes, I don't 'Critical' bugs either.04:20
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kikoyeah, they should be all high I guess04:20
bigjools_Rinchen: yes I would prefer not to track that way, but kiko wanted it like that ;)04:20
kikoI'm not used to mini-specs yet.04:20
kikoI am not sure how effective they will be04:20
kikothey're not numbered, for once.04:20
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flacosteeven with a mini-spec, you need to create full-blown spec objects for its parts04:21
Rinchenright ok, kiko bigjools_- you can stay behind when class is out and I'll help you with that :-) 04:21
flacostejust easier to use bugs for that04:21
bigjools_flacoste: yup04:21
SteveAif something has the nature of a critical bug04:21
SteveAin the sense that we're kind of swimming in shark-infested waters04:21
SteveAuntil it is fixed04:21
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SteveAthen it should be noted as a critical bug04:22
kikothis was clearly an abuse of critical on my behalf04:22
kikobigjools, feel free to bump them to high as long as you don't forget them. :)04:22
bigjoolskiko, how could I possibly forget :)04:22
kikoapologies for the noise :)04:23
Rinchenthe only reason it hit my radar was due to the priority but now I have further questions for you later ;-) 04:23
SteveAok, let's move it along04:23
Rinchencprov, so even after Tom's additional checks, we will still likely have a problem04:23
RinchenSteveA, the drescher issue it the only thing I have left open for the mtg04:24
cprovRinchen: we can discuss it later, but drescher's disk is one problem mirrors' disk is another 04:24
RinchenI think we may need to get folks together to sort this out04:24
bigjoolskiko, how about making spec-related stuff "wishlist" ?04:24
kikobigjools, don't talk to me about wishlist!!!04:24
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RinchenOk, I see the natives have gotten restless. SteveA I'll take these up on the side after the meeting then. Back to you04:25
SteveAthanks Rinchen 04:25
SteveAbug tags04:25
SteveA - nothing new04:25
SteveA * Operations report (mthaddon)04:25
mthaddonNothing special to report in terms of rollouts04:26
mthaddonApache Load Balancer now being used on beta04:26
mthaddonStaging rollout issue today - hung applying DB patch-87-15-0.sql (will be investigating after the meeting)04:26
mthaddonthat's it from me unless there are any questions...04:26
danilosmthaddon: how's edge looking? still not updated?04:26
mthaddondanilos: did you see stub's email?04:26
danilosmthaddon: I did, but I wonder what's going on with it04:27
kikoyeah, WTF.04:27
mthaddonstub: do we need to do a one time update or is it okay as is?04:27
danilosmthaddon: they were not updated before that, like I asked couple days ago... so I wonder if we'll get edge updated to the rev before the DB opening04:27
stubI don't know - I don't use it.04:27
stubYou can do a one time update if you like - just merge up to the db-unfreeze04:28
SteveAwe need that "auto redirect to edge" feature scheduled for speccing and working on for 1.1.8 or 1.1.904:28
mthaddonstub: thx - will do that 04:28
kikoSteveA, stub, mthaddon: whose responsibility is it to keep edge running?04:28
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mthaddonI guess that would be me04:28
kikoso why is it that once stub identified it was broken, nothing happened?04:29
kikodid a communication failure happen?04:29
kikoor did everybody assume it was SEP?04:29
mthaddonyes, I'll take care of it04:29
stubI think the fact it was not updated for an unknown amount of time, probably a few weeks, speaks of its popularity :-/04:29
kikoand also of our poor monitoring04:30
mthaddonI need to improve the notification of the updates...04:30
kikobut let's move on04:30
mthaddonback to you SteveA04:31
SteveAsorry, connection issues04:31
SteveAwe need a bugtracker for things like edge04:32
kikois having problems. :)04:32
jameshedge is a but tracker, isn't it? :)04:32
SteveAmthaddon: where are issues like "edge is broken" tracked?04:32
SteveAlaunchpad-deployment project in launchpad?04:32
SteveAok, moving along04:32
mthaddonnot sure of where that would currently be tracked...04:32
SteveA * DBA report (stub)04:32
stubAs per messages to the list, launchpad/devel is open for landing db changes. Land your branches if they are reviewed and ready. Get them ready and land them if they are reviewed and not ready. Ping me if you are blocked.04:32
stubDiscussed GIN indexes already.04:32
stubNext production update could involve 15-20 mins downtime, as we need to fill out a new column in the Person table. We should know how long after the next staging update. This is patch-87-15-0.sql - I expect it to take a long time to run. If it takes two long, I can drop the NOT NULL constraint and fill in the data post rollout live (ie. cowboy it).04:32
stubmthaddon: The wiki page?04:33
SteveAmthaddon: set up a launchpad-deployed project in launchpad, or come up with a better name04:33
SteveAbut use a bug tracker04:33
SteveAand not RT or a wiki page04:33
mthaddonok, will do04:33
SteveAstub: you have a database meeting with sabdfl next week, right?04:33
stubno, earlier this week04:34
mthaddonstub: that patch is currently being rolled out on staging - taking ages...04:34
SteveA * Sysadmin requests ([wiki:JoeyStanford/toprtrequests Current Queue] )04:34
SteveA(make it quick please)04:34
kikoSteveA, it was on monday -- stub sent out a number of good reports.04:34
stubmthaddon: if 'ages' is 'too long for rollout downtime' I'll go to plan B04:34
mthaddonstub: currently 5 hours...04:34
stubok. too long. Will refactor tomorrow.04:35
RinchenI have nothing for RT04:35
SteveA * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)04:35
mrevellOpening gutsy translations early in the Ubuntu development cycle concerned some upstreams because04:35
mthaddonstub: which I think would qualify - can you take a look and see if that's a staging-specific thing or does that tell you all you need to know?04:35
mrevellthey haven't yet finalised their translations.04:35
mrevellAs Launchpad translations take precedence over upstream translations,this could mean that upstream translations are never seen in Ubuntu.04:36
mrevellDanilo has suggested that we sync more regularly with upstream translations and that bug 32471 will go some way to helping the problem. Discussion regarding a full solution is under way.04:36
ubotuLaunchpad bug 32471 in rosetta "display differences from upstream" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/32471 - Assigned to   (danilo)04:36
SteveA * How pre-implementation phone calls are going (barry)04:36
barryMost, if not all, branches reviewed for 1.1.6 have had pre-implementation calls.  Seems like there are no jeers and a couple of cheers.04:36
stubmthaddon: It isn't staging specific. Staging is supposed to catch these so we don't get surprised during rollouts.04:36
SteveAcool, thanks04:36
SteveAstub, mthaddon: please use a different channel04:36
SteveA * New launchpad-documentation project (mrevell)04:36
mthaddonstub: should I just kill it, or leave it to complete?04:37
mrevellI've registered a new project in Launchpad - launchpad-documentation04:37
mrevellagainst which I'm filing blueprints for new documentation. I am going to announce this to the list and publicly tomorrow, subject to working out timing with Rinchen.04:37
SteveAnote that these are mini-spec blueprints04:38
SteveAvery brief outlines of what the doc is for04:38
SteveAand its scope04:38
mrevellYes, I've found the mini-specs very useful for defining documentation needs04:38
SteveAmrevell: are these on the public wiki?04:39
mrevellYes, they're at:04:39
mrevellAh, sorry, not yet, I'm going to put them on later today04:39
SteveAmrevell: and you'll be calling for help from launchpad users later?04:39
mrevellYes, I'll be announcing it on the blog and launchpad-users. We already have some screencast support for popey.04:39
SteveAgreat, thanks popey 04:39
SteveA * Directory names on devpad:/code/<acct> should be deliverable canonical addresses (bac)04:39
bacIn the non-AU reviewers meeting we discussed the need to have a developer's directory on devpad:/code/<acct> be a deliverable email address.  It helps with knowing where to send reviews.  Please have an email alias set-up or change the directory name if that is not possible.04:39
SteveAthanks bac 04:39
SteveA * Team three sentences (next time blockers only) ([wiki:ProjectTeams Team List] )04:39
salgadowhat's "next time blockers only"?04:40
salgadoTEAM: FOAF04:40
salgadoDONE: SSO, landed fixes for bug 53442 and bug 7051904:40
salgadoTODO: SSO, code review04:40
salgadoBLOCKED: no04:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 53442 in launchpad "It should be possible to delete distribution mirrors" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/53442 - Assigned to Guilherme Salgado (salgado)04:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 70519 in launchpad "Need to allow team members to renew their own membership once it gets close to the membership's expiration date" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/70519 - Assigned to Guilherme Salgado (salgado)04:40
matsubaraTEAM: infrastructure 04:40
matsubaraDONE: database reconnection debugging, Launchpad-SSO work, dba chores, Apache Load Balancer in place on Beta, Cherry picks, fixed 1135, fixed 118867, triage, oops report04:40
matsubaraTODO: database reconnection fixing, Launchpad-SSO work, Rollout documentation, app server directory clean up, database adapter timeout improvements, land 1.1.6 fixes, staging tests before rollout.04:40
matsubaraBLOCKED: no04:40
jtvTEAM: Translations04:40
jtvDONE: Most of XPI/multi-format imports, 32471, 116641, 81681, 83360, 10352504:40
jtvTODO: Finish Firefox support, finish reviews 30602, 40550, 57460, 8887304:40
jtvBLOCKED: Mainly on reviews, also on test times (can't run in parallel!)04:40
SteveAthat means, next week, I want to get just "BLOCKED: whatever" lines04:40
BjornTTEAM: bug tracker04:40
BjornTDONE: finished fixing bug 11473, which is mostly landed. landed motu-bug-permissions. been working on review comments for bug-workflow branches, bug 6572, bug 116454, bug 116364 and bug 116367.04:40
cprovTEAM: Soyuz04:40
cprovDONE: SoyuzCommercialRepo spec, PPA-beta, 1.1.6 tasks (3 bugs needs-reply)04:40
cprovTODO: finish 1.1.6 and go for 1.1.704:40
cprovBLOCKED: no04:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 11473 in glide "glide: new changes from Debian require merging" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11473 - Assigned to LaMont Jones (lamont)04:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 6572 in malone "In distribution bug searches, it should be possible to filter out bugs with open upstream tasks" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6572 - Assigned to abel (adeuring)04:40
mptDONE: bug page work, bug fixes, lots of design feedback04:40
mptTODO: login/registration work, Ubuntu Mobile, certification, bug fixes04:40
mptBLOCKED: no04:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 116454 in malone "Add a milestone view for an IProject" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116454 - Assigned to abel (adeuring)04:40
BjornTTODO: finish fixing all in progress bugs. fix bug 116369. start fixing activity log bugs.04:40
barryTEAM: team mailing lists04:40
barryDONE: specs completed; spec on standing04:40
barryTODO: get final approval by sabdfl; additional operational details04:40
barryBLOCKED: no04:40
flacosteTEAM: answer tracker04:40
flacosteDONE: initial ui work on faqbase, add active projects list to answers home page, work on formatting of email messages04:40
flacosteTODO: complete faqbase, finish formatting of email messages work, get agreement on ranks and official project members scope04:40
flacosteBLOCKED: FAQ DB patch was put on hold by sabdfl/stub04:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 116364 in malone "Better handling of the "this is my bug" +filebug case" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116364 - Assigned to Gavin Panella (allenap)04:40
BjornTBLOCKED: no04:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 116367 in malone "Apport should be able to report private bugs" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116367 - Assigned to Dave Murphy (schwuk)04:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 116369 in malone "Apport should be able to subscribe people to bug reports" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116369 - Assigned to Dave Murphy (schwuk)04:40
jskTEAM: Blueprints04:41
jskTODO: bug 116265 (1.1.7) needs investigation.04:41
jskDONE: bug 50875 superseded with spec improve-management-of-blueprint-subs; spec really-essential-subs superseded with spec improve-management-of-blueprint-subs; spec improve-management-of-blueprint-subs created, added prototypes; spec register-blueprints-from-project-groups spawned due to really-essential-subs, mostly finished; spec remove-hard-coded-lists-of-projects assisted commercialisation with implementation; spec04:41
jskper-blueprint-agendas created after request by henrik omma; spec implicitly-informational-blueprints created after request by sabdfl.04:41
ubotuLaunchpad bug 116265 in blueprint "It is possible to subscribe to wiki pages you don't have permission to see" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116265 - Assigned to Jonathan Knowles (jonathanknowles)04:41
statikTEAM: Commercialization04:41
statikDONE: reviews, salesforce integration, recruiting, prototyping, customer interactions, patch for hardcoded projects.04:41
statikTODO: 1.1.6 landings!!! hurrah for timeboxed releases.04:41
statikBLOCKED: no. 04:41
jskBLOCKED: bug 109639 (1.1.6) waiting on result of production query; bug 111799 (1.1.6) awaiting review of 2nd branch.04:41
ubotuLaunchpad bug 50875 in blueprint "It is not possible to unsubscribe a team from a specification" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/50875 - Assigned to Jonathan Knowles (jonathanknowles)04:41
ubotuBug 109639 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/109639 is private04:41
ubotuLaunchpad bug 111799 in blueprint "Blueprint name validation broken" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111799 - Assigned to Jonathan Knowles (jonathanknowles)04:41
mwhudsonTEAM: launchpad-bazaar04:41
mwhudsonDONE: private branches done and last branch awaiting review,  bzr smart server on code hosting awaiting review, team subscriptions to branches, landed import-status-change-ui, got code-import-content-type-db04:41
mwhudsonTODO: bzr smart server to support private branches, land work for 1.1.6, upgrade bzr to 0.17rc, update code-import-content-type, code-import-initial-views04:41
mwhudsonBLOCKED: landing blocked on reviews for
Rinchenstatik, hurrah indeed :-) 04:42
danilosSteveA: I wonder the same thing salgado does: what's "next time blockers only"?04:43
kikoI'll do some serious reviewing today04:43
danilosah, read it up04:43
salgadohe explained it already, danilos 04:43
SteveAanyone blocked with no decent plan on how to proceed?04:43
bigjoolsTEAM Soyuz is actually blocked on reviews also04:43
stubflacoste is04:43
SteveAthat may need to remain blocked until mark is back in london04:44
stubis when?04:44
SteveAthe same time as there's a lp meeting in london04:44
stubis when?04:44
jtvSteveA: e?04:45
stubOk. That bumps the FAQ to 1.1.704:45
flacostestub: that's already done04:45
stubok. I didn't realize and was still trying to get it sorted for this cycle :)04:45
mwhudsoni should know this, but: when is the code deadline for 1.1.6? tomorrow?04:45
SteveAand it is 45 minutes past04:45
SteveAthat means...04:46
SteveAthank you everyone04:46
cprovbigjools: my branches are in 'needs-reply', so Blocked: on me :(04:46
flacostestub: thanks for your effort!04:46
bigjoolscprov: I have one waiting for mentor approval04:46
kikothanks :)04:46
mwhudsonyes, hooray for stub!04:46
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carlosmwhudson: yeah, that's what the schedule says...04:47
stubmwhudson: I'm assuming Monday myself04:48
stubI think I knew this...04:48
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kikomwhudson, carlos: yes. tomorrow.04:49
salgadohey bigjools, let's get that branch of yours sorted. have some time now?04:49
mwhudsonkiko: ta04:49
bigjoolssalgado, sure04:49
Rinchenno cheers that next week only blockers are due04:50
RinchenI'll cheer!  Less spam04:50
kikoI'm cheering inside04:50
bigjoolsbelated yay04:50
salgadobigjools, so, bug 116833 mentions bug 8101404:51
ubotuLaunchpad bug 116833 in soyuz "copyTo/supersede/changeOverride API should be in DistroArchReleaseBinaryPackageRelease" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116833 - Assigned to Julian Edwards (julian-edwards)04:51
ubotuLaunchpad bug 81014 in malone "Don't assume entered package is a binary package" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81014 - Assigned to Gavin Panella (allenap)04:51
salgadowhat's the relationship between them?04:51
bigjoolssalgado: when allenap was working on 81014 his changed sampledata triggered the bug that was entered as 11683304:51
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salgadobigjools, email sent05:13
bigjoolssalgado: just reading it, thanks05:13
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ubotuNew bug: #120425 in launchpad "pagetests cannot test CSS and JS behaviour" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12042506:15
radixheh heh06:21
kikoold news06:21
radixif anyone ever figures out how to do that, I will give them five dollars06:21
radixand steal their quantum computer06:21
flacosteradix: use selenium06:21
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radixflacoste_lunch: maybe I have different assumptions about what it means to test the "behavior" of CSS :)06:22
flacoste_lunchradix: right, CSS needs visual inspection, but running the selenium tests in slow mode can help spotting visual errors a lot less tedious06:23
flacoste_lunchradix: but JS behaviour can be tested using selenium06:23
flacoste_lunchanyway, i'm out to eat06:23
radixyes, I'll buy that 06:23
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pochuYay for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/launchpad/+spec/team-mailing-lists!06:33
pochuNow that it's approved and High priority, what about setting it for 1.1.7 or something soon? :)06:34
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AlexExtremeHi, is it possible for me to upgrade my branch on launchpad to use dirstate-tags? I've tried running bzr upgrade on it but it gives me permission denied08:21
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mwhudsonAlexExtreme: yes, but you have to hack about a bit08:35
mwhudsonlog in using lftp (not the default sftp client!), delete the .bzr directory and push your already upgraded branch08:35
mwhudson(with --use-existing-dir)08:36
mwhudsonthere's a bug somewhere about this08:36
ubotuLaunchpad bug 118653 in launchpad-bazaar "Need --no-backup flag or similar to upgrade remote repos on launchpad" [High,Confirmed]   - Assigned to Jonathan Lange (jml)08:37
AlexExtrememwh: that worked, thanks a lot08:52
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shawarmaThe list of bugs I'm subscribed to does not seem to list the bugs in the packages for which I'm a bug contact, but only the bugs I've explicitly subscribed to. Is this intentional? If yes, is there are way to get the entire list?09:04
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kikoshawarma, yes, and not exactly, but look at your Package bug reports09:09
shawarmakiko: I know about that, but I'd like to have a complete list of the stuff, I'm supposed to care about in one list ordered by importance.09:09
shawarmakiko: If I feel like squashing bugs, I don't always care if it's in apache or samba or whatever.09:10
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shawarmakiko: I'll file a wishlist bug.09:18
shawarmakiko: Ah, no I wont.09:19
shawarmahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/61429 It's already there.09:21
ubotuLaunchpad bug 61429 in malone "+subscribedbugs listing should include bugs subscribed explicitly and implicitly (via team, dupes, etc)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  09:21
shawarmaNow we just need the "vote for bugs" feature. :)09:22
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ubotuNew bug: #120460 in launchpad "If a project group only has projects that don't use Malone, the Report a bug page is empty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12046011:25
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