=== Rinchen1 [n=joey@vc7-1-240g.dsl.netrack.net] has joined #launchpad [12:26] New bug: #120276 in launchpad "No system to request email reminders for bugs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120276 === rusty_ [n=rusty@207.47.10.130.static.nextweb.net] has joined #launchpad [12:38] I just create a new project that i some how managed to screw up the name such that instead of it being called 'zi9-config', the name is my user name yet the displayed name is correct. Soo... how can i delete my new project to redo the creation process? === thumper is now known as thumper-office [12:40] my project is "https://code.launchpad.net/rusty-lynch-intel/", but i wanted it to be called 'zi9-config' === thumper [n=tim@125-236-193-95.adsl.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad [12:42] hey rusty_ [12:42] one sec. [12:42] ok [12:43] done. [12:43] ok, cool [12:45] New bug: #120279 in rosetta "Refactor TranslationImporter.import_file to use smaller methods" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120279 === mdz [n=mdz@207.47.10.130.static.nextweb.net] has joined #launchpad === radhios [n=radhios@200.122.113.192] has joined #launchpad === theforkofjustice [n=chatzill@hlfxns0148w-142167248056.ns.aliant.net] has joined #launchpad [01:44] any admins here? [01:44] i just need one :) [01:48] hello? === tokj_ [n=tk@unaffiliated/tokj] has joined #launchpad === tokj_ is now known as tokj [01:50] theforkofjustice: you may want to ask on the support tracker on lp.net [01:51] theforkofjustice: kiko-afk is afk atm [01:51] i posted a question in 'launchpad answers' will this do? (navigating for support in LP isn't very intuitive) [01:52] theforkofjustice: yeah, if it's against the launchpad "product" [01:52] thumper: are there any australian admins? [01:52] i need my project's section changed to a super-project [01:53] dont think that wil qualify :\ [01:53] theforkofjustice: I think that's ok [01:54] oh good. lets hope that works then === bluekuja_ [n=andrea@host145-171.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #launchpad [01:54] thanks a lot === andrea__ [n=andrea@host33-239-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === jml_ [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad [02:07] jelmer: I don't think so, lemmie check === jml_ [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-180-104.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === bluekuja_ [n=andrea@host221-175.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #launchpad === jml_ is now known as jml === andrea__ [n=andrea@host178-239-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad [04:00] Gooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! === mpt_ is now known as mpt === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-219-120.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [04:55] New bug: #120309 in launchpad "Portlet headings aren't focusable, so can't be expanded with a keyboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120309 === superm1__ is now known as superm1 === poolie [n=mbp@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.8.95.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === superm1_ is now known as superm1 === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442c0.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad === lengau [n=lengau@c-76-22-213-228.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #launchpad === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #launchpad [08:00] New bug: #120341 in launchpad "Improve test suite speed using savepoints for database resets" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120341 === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/rinchen] has joined #launchpad === allenap [n=allenap@212.233.37.241] has joined #launchpad === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.8.211.66.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === pochu [n=emilio@115.Red-88-27-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #launchpad [09:30] morning === pochu [n=emilio@115.Red-88-27-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === gianmt [n=gianmt@host154-108-static.187-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === poolie [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === mrevell [n=matthew@canonical/launchpad/mrevell] has joined #launchpad === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad === PeP`` is now known as PeP` === mpt [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has left #launchpad ["http://mpt.net.nz/"] === poolie [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [10:35] New bug: #120357 in malone "Improve the accept/decline/nochange column on +nominations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120357 === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad [10:51] New bug: #120362 in launchpad-answers "impossible to delete a project!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120362 === zwnj [n=behnam@194.225.70.226] has joined #launchpad === PeP` [n=PeP@210.134-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has left #launchpad ["#efh] === jsk [n=jsk@client-86-31-158-133.watf.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #launchpad === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-123.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #launchpad === bigjools [n=bigjools@canonical/launchpad/bigjools] has joined #launchpad === tokj [n=tk@unaffiliated/tokj] has joined #launchpad === fernando1 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-a33ce3931d03dad9] has joined #launchpad [11:46] New bug: #120366 in rosetta "Test file format support using interface tests" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120366 === tokj_ [n=tk@unaffiliated/tokj] has joined #launchpad === tokj_ is now known as tokj === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #launchpad === fernando1 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-858c32c703a038da] has joined #launchpad === Prognatus_ [n=bjorn@2.80-203-143.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad === bac is now known as bac_afk === bac_afk is now known as bac === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=behnam@194.225.70.226] has joined #launchpad === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === tokj [n=tk@unaffiliated/tokj] has joined #launchpad === erdalronahi [n=erdalron@p5B00468A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === erdalronahi [n=erdalron@p5B00468A.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #launchpad [] === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host44-131-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === beuno [i=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #launchpad === jsk_ [n=jsk@client-82-2-140-139.manc.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #launchpad === cprov-afk is now known as cprov [01:45] morning, folks === lionel [n=lionel@ip-211.net-81-220-127.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #launchpad === jkakar [n=jkakar@204-174-36-45.dhcp802.dsl.ucc-net.ca] has joined #launchpad === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad [02:01] hi [02:02] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maxemumtvguide/+filebug doesn't let me submit a bug because '"maxemumtvguide" does not exist in Ubuntu' [02:02] is that because there is no binary package available yet? [02:02] yes [02:02] in which case shouldn't it hide the "file a bug" option? [02:02] rather than let me describe a problem and not accept it then [02:03] I've a bug to report against the source package which I just accept from NEW ;) === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200-103-135-160.ctame705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #launchpad === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #launchpad === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has left #launchpad ["Quitte"] [02:10] New bug: #120393 in blueprint "roadmap incorrectly show spec as dangling" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120393 === matsubara [n=matsubar@canonical/launchpad/matsubara] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442c0.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad === carlos -> lunch === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #launchpad === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4428e.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #launchpad === salgado [n=salgado@canonical/launchpad/salgado] has joined #launchpad === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable040.144-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-180-104.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@foresight/developer/OgMaciel] has joined #launchpad === superm1 is now known as superm1_ === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-180-104.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@ip-213-190-55-148.static.b4net.lt] has joined #launchpad === sinzui [n=sinzui@pool-70-17-92-251.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #launchpad === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/rinchen] has joined #launchpad === adeuring [n=abel@Fc1a4.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #launchpad === brussel_ [n=brussel@adsl-71-154-207-24.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === kiko-afk is now known as kiko === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad [03:57] SteveA, here today? [03:57] mpt: yep, here === Hobbsee waves [03:58] ok [03:59] I saw on the agenda that you might be travelling, and was ~80% sure that was left over from last week, so thought I'd check [03:59] hi Hobbsee [03:59] mpt: yes, a left-over [03:59] thanks [03:59] ooo nearly meeting time [04:00] :) [04:00] me [04:00] okay [04:00] Welcome [04:00] Who wants chocolate pudding? [04:00] Welcome all [04:00] mpt: me!!!! [04:00] me fa so la di da [04:00] to this week's Launchpad Development meeting [04:00] me [04:00] who is here today? [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] not me [04:01] and I'd like a chocholate pudding [04:01] me [04:01] ddaa is on vacation [04:01] please look and see if the other people on your team are here === barry has not eaten his meat so he can't have any pudding [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:02] Brazilian time delay [04:02] me === stu1 is now known as stub [04:02] me === carlos just pinged jtv === danilos danilo just pinged jtv to join here :) === jtv [n=jtv@125-24-218-246.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #launchpad [04:03] cool [04:03] the agenda... [04:03] danilos: copycat! [04:03] == Agenda == [04:03] * Roll call [04:03] * Agenda [04:03] * Next meeting [04:03] * Actions from last meeting [04:03] * Oops report (Matsubara) [04:03] * Bug report ([wiki:JoeyStanford/topweeklybugs Current Top Items] ) [04:03] * Bug tags [04:03] * Operations report (mthaddon) [04:03] * DBA report (stub) [04:03] * Sysadmin requests ([wiki:JoeyStanford/toprtrequests Current Queue] ) [04:03] * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) [04:03] ---- [04:03] me === bigjools-afk [n=ed@82-71-93-254.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [04:03] * How pre-implementation phone calls are going (barry) [04:03] * New launchpad-documentation project (mrevell) [04:03] * Directory names on devpad:/code/ should be deliverable canonical addresses (bac) [04:03] * (other items) [04:03] ---- [04:03] * Team three sentences (next time blockers only) ([wiki:ProjectTeams Team List] ) [04:03] === bigjools-afk is now known as bigjools_ [04:04] next meeting -- same time next week please [04:04] anyone won't be here? [04:04] nice, I just had a power surge, hope the UPS holds out [04:04] I know that ddaa will still be on vacation [04:04] i'll be on vacation next thursday === ..[topic/#launchpad:mpt] : Launchpad https://launchpad.net/ | Next developer meeting: Thu 21 June 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Launchpad help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 [04:04] Actions from the last meeting [04:04] I will be here next thursday. [04:05] There we no actions [04:05] Kiko wanted to note about tomorrow [04:05] that he'll be away [04:05] I'll be away tomorrow in the afternoon (my time) [04:05] I won't be here tomorrow. Rinchen is standing in for me. Call me if you need me, my phone will be on. [04:05] and mthaddon and I need to book a call at the end of the day when i have connectivity again. === Rinchen salutes. [04:06] I'll be available for calls up to 1630 UTC [04:06] for things that need my urgent attention [04:06] kiko: sounds good [04:06] or if you just feel kinda lonely and want to, you know... [04:06] oops, wrong meeting [04:06] :) === bigjools-lunch [n=bigjools@82-71-93-249.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [04:06] with no further delay, matsubara with the OOPS report [04:07] Today's oops report is about bug 119780 [04:07] stub, is there any workaround for it? [04:07] Launchpad bug 119780 in launchpad "GIN indexes cause some slow queries to fail entirely" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119780 - Assigned to Stuart Bishop (stub) [04:07] No. We need to revert the indexes or put up with it until it is fixed upstream. [04:07] I asked stub about this in bugmail too! [04:07] We getting many hits? [04:07] stub, no query rewriting possible etc? [04:07] stub: what's the word from upstream? [04:07] No [04:07] stub: nope, only 2 since last week [04:08] No word from upstream yet - I only briefly mentioned on IRC. [04:08] doesn't sound like upstream's moving very fast on this [04:08] stub: we can consider paying someone to do this work [04:08] Ok. I'll poke the mailing list and maybe the developers directly. [04:08] ACTION: stub to poke upstream developers about GIN limitations [04:09] I mean, I don't want to pay for something that'll be fixed already [04:09] or if the work is underway [04:09] but [04:09] there's a proposal to fix it in the pgsql list but no reply yet. stub, would that proposal fix our case? [04:09] if it's not a priority otherwise [04:09] we can talk about it [04:09] matsubara: I haven't seen the proposal [04:10] Oh - that one. [04:10] stub: you added to the bug! [04:10] I haven't seen any replies, and it was old. [04:10] Upstream don't use bug trackers though so it might have gone out of band [04:10] excuseme?! [04:10] pgsql don't use a bug tracker? [04:11] jesus [04:11] nope. mailing list. [04:11] you said it man [04:11] stub: they have one _somewhere_ === kiko looks at jtv [04:11] stub: it's just something they don't expose. You see references to numbered bugs sometimes. [04:11] I know of a place where a project such as this can host a bug tracker [04:11] with support [04:11] for free [04:11] now where did I put my copy of mysql ;-) [04:11] jtv: I was told there were key developers who just wouldn't use it so it never materialized. [04:11] indeed SteveA [04:11] anyway, I'm done here. thanks stub. back to you SteveA [04:12] what's all this "they" ? [04:12] postgresql is an open source project [04:12] Is two oopses a week enough to worry about fixing? We had two five minute outages converting and I would expect similar reverting. [04:13] And an upstream fix won't really be useful to us until 8.3(.1) is released. [04:13] we could have a backported patch installed [04:13] stub: do the two oopses mean that a specific feature won't work? [04:13] but two oopses a week is not much. [04:13] I mean, a specific launchpad feature? [04:13] or is it kinda random? [04:13] SteveA: There are certain searches which will just fail. [04:13] full text searches? [04:13] my 2 pence: the performance gain from GIN offsets 2 oops per week [04:14] It isn't random - just certain text searches. [04:14] can the be reworked? [04:14] Rinchen: 2 oops per week is infinitely worse than the goal of 0 oops per week, though [04:14] Rinchen: Performance gains where not as significant as I hoped [04:15] I'll keep an eye on it. If it starts to happen more often I'll nag someone (likely to be stub.) [04:15] ok [04:15] we'r good [04:15] stub: shall I decrease the bug importance to medium then? [04:15] yes [04:15] stub: if we did pay for this, a backport to 8.2 would be part of the deal [04:16] * Bug report ([wiki:JoeyStanford/topweeklybugs Current Top Items] ) [04:16] Thanks stub for fixing Bug #65800 [04:16] Launchpad bug 65800 in launchpad "staging. and demo. should obviously be demos" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65800 - Assigned to Stuart Bishop (stub) [04:16] SteveA: In some way I'd rather revert than run non-standard versions of pg [04:16] Bug #62612, first reported on 2006-09-27. The issue here is that while we have cleaned up a bit more, we're still running about 90% on the utilization of a 450gig drive. I've promoted up cprov's spec to essential to 1.1.7 but it has to pass cycle planning next week. mthaddon, anything to add? [04:16] Launchpad bug 62612 in soyuz "Need a drescher disk space strategy" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62612 - Assigned to Tom Haddon (mthaddon) [04:17] Rinchen: as noted on IRC I also need to follow up with IS about failing deletions for this bug [04:17] right. I believe I added that into the ticket. [04:17] stub: I'd hope that this would go into 8.2.x [04:17] stub: anyway, not a great worry for now [04:17] Ok, I'll work with kiko and cprov to see if can't get that scheduled for the next round [04:17] bigjools, why is Bug #119918 a bug? Sounds like a spec task to me? [04:17] I don't know how much of a difference that will make, but perhaps we could revisit once that's taken care of [04:17] Launchpad bug 119918 in soyuz "Add new dbschema item for archive semantics" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119918 - Assigned to Julian Edwards (julian-edwards) [04:18] mthaddon, yes, thanks. [04:18] Rinchen: yes it's part of the 1.1.7 work so that it can be tracked [04:18] Rinchen: I just wan't to note that the archive-removal spec, as it is (not removing anything), is not going to solve drescher's disk problem, it aims to split the archive in a way we safe disk space on mirrors. [04:18] Rinchen, we broke up the spec in a few bugs [04:19] it's all good and healthy fun [04:19] bigjools_, kiko - wouldn't mini-specs be more appropriate than a critical bug? [04:20] cprov, if that's the case then the comments in the bug are incorrect and this is still a bug [04:20] Rinchen: yes, I don't 'Critical' bugs either. === kiko shrugs [04:20] yeah, they should be all high I guess [04:20] Rinchen: yes I would prefer not to track that way, but kiko wanted it like that ;) [04:20] I'm not used to mini-specs yet. [04:20] I am not sure how effective they will be [04:20] they're not numbered, for once. === bigjools_ is not sure either [04:21] even with a mini-spec, you need to create full-blown spec objects for its parts [04:21] right ok, kiko bigjools_- you can stay behind when class is out and I'll help you with that :-) [04:21] just easier to use bugs for that [04:21] flacoste: yup [04:21] if something has the nature of a critical bug [04:21] in the sense that we're kind of swimming in shark-infested waters [04:21] until it is fixed === bigjools_ is now known as bigjools [04:22] then it should be noted as a critical bug [04:22] this was clearly an abuse of critical on my behalf [04:22] bigjools, feel free to bump them to high as long as you don't forget them. :) [04:22] kiko, how could I possibly forget :) [04:23] apologies for the noise :) [04:23] the only reason it hit my radar was due to the priority but now I have further questions for you later ;-) [04:23] ok, let's move it along [04:23] cprov, so even after Tom's additional checks, we will still likely have a problem [04:24] SteveA, the drescher issue it the only thing I have left open for the mtg [04:24] Rinchen: we can discuss it later, but drescher's disk is one problem mirrors' disk is another [04:24] I think we may need to get folks together to sort this out [04:24] kiko, how about making spec-related stuff "wishlist" ? [04:24] bigjools, don't talk to me about wishlist!!! === bigjools clamps mouth firmly shut [04:25] Ok, I see the natives have gotten restless. SteveA I'll take these up on the side after the meeting then. Back to you [04:25] thanks Rinchen [04:25] bug tags [04:25] - nothing new [04:25] * Operations report (mthaddon) [04:26] Nothing special to report in terms of rollouts [04:26] Apache Load Balancer now being used on beta [04:26] Staging rollout issue today - hung applying DB patch-87-15-0.sql (will be investigating after the meeting) [04:26] that's it from me unless there are any questions... [04:26] mthaddon: how's edge looking? still not updated? [04:26] danilos: did you see stub's email? [04:27] mthaddon: I did, but I wonder what's going on with it [04:27] yeah, WTF. [04:27] stub: do we need to do a one time update or is it okay as is? [04:27] mthaddon: they were not updated before that, like I asked couple days ago... so I wonder if we'll get edge updated to the rev before the DB opening [04:27] I don't know - I don't use it. [04:28] You can do a one time update if you like - just merge up to the db-unfreeze [04:28] we need that "auto redirect to edge" feature scheduled for speccing and working on for 1.1.8 or 1.1.9 [04:28] uhhh [04:28] stub: thx - will do that [04:28] SteveA, stub, mthaddon: whose responsibility is it to keep edge running? === stub points at mthaddon [04:28] I guess that would be me [04:29] so why is it that once stub identified it was broken, nothing happened? [04:29] did a communication failure happen? [04:29] or did everybody assume it was SEP? [04:29] yes, I'll take care of it [04:29] I think the fact it was not updated for an unknown amount of time, probably a few weeks, speaks of its popularity :-/ [04:30] and also of our poor monitoring [04:30] I need to improve the notification of the updates... [04:30] but let's move on [04:31] back to you SteveA [04:31] hi [04:31] sorry, connection issues [04:32] yeah [04:32] steve [04:32] we need a bugtracker for things like edge [04:32] is having problems. :) [04:32] edge is a but tracker, isn't it? :) [04:32] mthaddon: where are issues like "edge is broken" tracked? [04:32] s/but/bug/ [04:32] launchpad-deployment project in launchpad? [04:32] ok, moving along [04:32] not sure of where that would currently be tracked... [04:32] * DBA report (stub) [04:32] As per messages to the list, launchpad/devel is open for landing db changes. Land your branches if they are reviewed and ready. Get them ready and land them if they are reviewed and not ready. Ping me if you are blocked. [04:32] Discussed GIN indexes already. [04:32] Next production update could involve 15-20 mins downtime, as we need to fill out a new column in the Person table. We should know how long after the next staging update. This is patch-87-15-0.sql - I expect it to take a long time to run. If it takes two long, I can drop the NOT NULL constraint and fill in the data post rollout live (ie. cowboy it). [04:32] Done. [04:33] mthaddon: The wiki page? [04:33] mthaddon: set up a launchpad-deployed project in launchpad, or come up with a better name [04:33] but use a bug tracker [04:33] and not RT or a wiki page [04:33] ok, will do [04:33] stub: you have a database meeting with sabdfl next week, right? [04:34] no, earlier this week [04:34] stub: that patch is currently being rolled out on staging - taking ages... [04:34] ok [04:34] * Sysadmin requests ([wiki:JoeyStanford/toprtrequests Current Queue] ) [04:34] (make it quick please) [04:34] SteveA, it was on monday -- stub sent out a number of good reports. [04:34] mthaddon: if 'ages' is 'too long for rollout downtime' I'll go to plan B [04:34] stub: currently 5 hours... [04:35] ok. too long. Will refactor tomorrow. [04:35] I have nothing for RT [04:35] thanks [04:35] * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) [04:35] Opening gutsy translations early in the Ubuntu development cycle concerned some upstreams because [04:35] stub: which I think would qualify - can you take a look and see if that's a staging-specific thing or does that tell you all you need to know? [04:35] they haven't yet finalised their translations. [04:36] As Launchpad translations take precedence over upstream translations,this could mean that upstream translations are never seen in Ubuntu. [04:36] Danilo has suggested that we sync more regularly with upstream translations and that bug 32471 will go some way to helping the problem. Discussion regarding a full solution is under way. [04:36] Launchpad bug 32471 in rosetta "display differences from upstream" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32471 - Assigned to (danilo) [04:36] thanks [04:36] * How pre-implementation phone calls are going (barry) [04:36] Most, if not all, branches reviewed for 1.1.6 have had pre-implementation calls. Seems like there are no jeers and a couple of cheers. [04:36] mthaddon: It isn't staging specific. Staging is supposed to catch these so we don't get surprised during rollouts. [04:36] cool, thanks [04:36] stub, mthaddon: please use a different channel [04:36] * New launchpad-documentation project (mrevell) [04:37] stub: should I just kill it, or leave it to complete? [04:37] sorry [04:37] I've registered a new project in Launchpad - launchpad-documentation [04:37] against which I'm filing blueprints for new documentation. I am going to announce this to the list and publicly tomorrow, subject to working out timing with Rinchen. [04:38] note that these are mini-spec blueprints [04:38] very brief outlines of what the doc is for [04:38] and its scope [04:38] Yes, I've found the mini-specs very useful for defining documentation needs [04:39] mrevell: are these on the public wiki? [04:39] Yes, they're at: [04:39] Ah, sorry, not yet, I'm going to put them on later today [04:39] mrevell: and you'll be calling for help from launchpad users later? [04:39] Yes, I'll be announcing it on the blog and launchpad-users. We already have some screencast support for popey. [04:39] s/for/from [04:39] great, thanks popey [04:39] np [04:39] * Directory names on devpad:/code/ should be deliverable canonical addresses (bac) [04:39] In the non-AU reviewers meeting we discussed the need to have a developer's directory on devpad:/code/ be a deliverable email address. It helps with knowing where to send reviews. Please have an email alias set-up or change the directory name if that is not possible. [04:39] thanks bac [04:39] * Team three sentences (next time blockers only) ([wiki:ProjectTeams Team List] ) [04:40] what's "next time blockers only"? [04:40] TEAM: FOAF [04:40] DONE: SSO, landed fixes for bug 53442 and bug 70519 [04:40] TODO: SSO, code review [04:40] BLOCKED: no [04:40] Launchpad bug 53442 in launchpad "It should be possible to delete distribution mirrors" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53442 - Assigned to Guilherme Salgado (salgado) [04:40] Launchpad bug 70519 in launchpad "Need to allow team members to renew their own membership once it gets close to the membership's expiration date" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70519 - Assigned to Guilherme Salgado (salgado) [04:40] TEAM: infrastructure [04:40] DONE: database reconnection debugging, Launchpad-SSO work, dba chores, Apache Load Balancer in place on Beta, Cherry picks, fixed 1135, fixed 118867, triage, oops report [04:40] TODO: database reconnection fixing, Launchpad-SSO work, Rollout documentation, app server directory clean up, database adapter timeout improvements, land 1.1.6 fixes, staging tests before rollout. [04:40] BLOCKED: no [04:40] TEAM: Translations [04:40] DONE: Most of XPI/multi-format imports, 32471, 116641, 81681, 83360, 103525 [04:40] TODO: Finish Firefox support, finish reviews 30602, 40550, 57460, 88873 [04:40] BLOCKED: Mainly on reviews, also on test times (can't run in parallel!) [04:40] that means, next week, I want to get just "BLOCKED: whatever" lines [04:40] TEAM: bug tracker [04:40] DONE: finished fixing bug 11473, which is mostly landed. landed motu-bug-permissions. been working on review comments for bug-workflow branches, bug 6572, bug 116454, bug 116364 and bug 116367. [04:40] TEAM: Soyuz [04:40] DONE: SoyuzCommercialRepo spec, PPA-beta, 1.1.6 tasks (3 bugs needs-reply) [04:40] TODO: finish 1.1.6 and go for 1.1.7 [04:40] BLOCKED: no [04:40] Launchpad bug 11473 in glide "glide: new changes from Debian require merging" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11473 - Assigned to LaMont Jones (lamont) [04:40] Launchpad bug 6572 in malone "In distribution bug searches, it should be possible to filter out bugs with open upstream tasks" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6572 - Assigned to abel (adeuring) [04:40] DONE: bug page work, bug fixes, lots of design feedback [04:40] TODO: login/registration work, Ubuntu Mobile, certification, bug fixes [04:40] BLOCKED: no [04:40] Launchpad bug 116454 in malone "Add a milestone view for an IProject" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116454 - Assigned to abel (adeuring) [04:40] TODO: finish fixing all in progress bugs. fix bug 116369. start fixing activity log bugs. [04:40] TEAM: team mailing lists [04:40] DONE: specs completed; spec on standing [04:40] TODO: get final approval by sabdfl; additional operational details [04:40] BLOCKED: no [04:40] TEAM: answer tracker [04:40] DONE: initial ui work on faqbase, add active projects list to answers home page, work on formatting of email messages [04:40] TODO: complete faqbase, finish formatting of email messages work, get agreement on ranks and official project members scope [04:40] BLOCKED: FAQ DB patch was put on hold by sabdfl/stub [04:40] Launchpad bug 116364 in malone "Better handling of the "this is my bug" +filebug case" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116364 - Assigned to Gavin Panella (allenap) [04:40] BLOCKED: no [04:40] Launchpad bug 116367 in malone "Apport should be able to report private bugs" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116367 - Assigned to Dave Murphy (schwuk) [04:40] Launchpad bug 116369 in malone "Apport should be able to subscribe people to bug reports" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116369 - Assigned to Dave Murphy (schwuk) [04:41] TEAM: Blueprints [04:41] TODO: bug 116265 (1.1.7) needs investigation. [04:41] DONE: bug 50875 superseded with spec improve-management-of-blueprint-subs; spec really-essential-subs superseded with spec improve-management-of-blueprint-subs; spec improve-management-of-blueprint-subs created, added prototypes; spec register-blueprints-from-project-groups spawned due to really-essential-subs, mostly finished; spec remove-hard-coded-lists-of-projects assisted commercialisation with implementation; spec [04:41] per-blueprint-agendas created after request by henrik omma; spec implicitly-informational-blueprints created after request by sabdfl. [04:41] Launchpad bug 116265 in blueprint "It is possible to subscribe to wiki pages you don't have permission to see" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116265 - Assigned to Jonathan Knowles (jonathanknowles) [04:41] TEAM: Commercialization [04:41] DONE: reviews, salesforce integration, recruiting, prototyping, customer interactions, patch for hardcoded projects. [04:41] TODO: 1.1.6 landings!!! hurrah for timeboxed releases. [04:41] BLOCKED: no. [04:41] BLOCKED: bug 109639 (1.1.6) waiting on result of production query; bug 111799 (1.1.6) awaiting review of 2nd branch. [04:41] Launchpad bug 50875 in blueprint "It is not possible to unsubscribe a team from a specification" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50875 - Assigned to Jonathan Knowles (jonathanknowles) [04:41] Bug 109639 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/109639 is private [04:41] Launchpad bug 111799 in blueprint "Blueprint name validation broken" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111799 - Assigned to Jonathan Knowles (jonathanknowles) [04:41] TEAM: launchpad-bazaar [04:41] DONE: private branches done and last branch awaiting review, bzr smart server on code hosting awaiting review, team subscriptions to branches, landed import-status-change-ui, got code-import-content-type-db [04:41] TODO: bzr smart server to support private branches, land work for 1.1.6, upgrade bzr to 0.17rc, update code-import-content-type, code-import-initial-views [04:41] BLOCKED: landing blocked on reviews for 1.1.6. [04:42] statik, hurrah indeed :-) [04:43]