ico2gnomefreak, seems to be working   THANKS!!!12:32
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jimpThe 2007/06/13 gutsy-desktop-powerpc+ps3.iso snapshot doesn't seem to work on the PS3.  Is there a workaround or suggested snapshot image that does?01:22
crimsunmore precisely, please.01:24
jimpIt hangs at the kexec ("Booting system.."01:25
jimpI figured I'd check to see if this was known before I track it down further.01:25
crimsunthat's more useful. Check linux-source-2.6.22 bugs.01:25
jimpI saw nothing about it on launchpad, if that's what you mean.01:28
crimsunwould be useful as a report, then.01:33
jimpok, I'll poke around and try to figure out what's going on first.01:34
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h1st0okay I'm banned from ubuntu thats nice01:37
h1st0How'd that happen?01:37
h1st0Any ops around? *wake up*01:40
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crimsunthis is not the channel for such matters.01:42
h1st0I found the right channel.01:43
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tominglishey is it possible to upgrade to gutsy from feisty just now?03:16
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tomingliswhat is the command that i need to use?03:17
grumpymolea few options: 1 = download a gutsy CD and insert when you insert that, feisty should ask if you want to upgrade03:18
grumpymole2 = edit /etc/apt/sources.lst and change all occurrences of feisty to gusty.  then apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade03:21
grumpymoleoption 2 will have lots of updates, obviously03:21
grumpymolei did this recently03:21
grumpymolealso, for option 2, you will need to prefix those commands with sudo, as they need to execute as root03:23
tominglisoh ok03:24
tomingliseasy peasy03:24
tominglisthanks dude03:24
tominglisis everything broken in gutsy? i do love bug reporting :)03:24
grumpymoleactually, for me, it is working well03:24
tominglisok, well i will give it a go03:25
tominglisdoes it have 2.6.21?03:25
grumpymoleit depends on which apps you might use.  my feisty install kept freezing the machine, but gutsy is great03:25
calctominglis: 2.6.22 i think03:25
tominglisoh ok that is excellent03:25
calcLinux ccheney-desktop 2.6.22-6-generic #1 SMP Fri Jun 1 19:24:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux03:25
tominglisit has support for my soundcard's input and my tv card and webcam i think03:26
tominglisthanks guys03:26
tominglisyou are legendary03:26
grumpymoleno probs03:26
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Zelutanyone have any hints on getting gutsy installed with kvm and qemu?  any time I try it can't find the cdrom and b0rks.03:58
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ZelutI'm using sudo qemu -hda gutsy.img -cdrom gutsy-alternate-i386.iso -boot d -m 38404:27
Zelutthis will load the CD but the installer borks on trying to load the cdrom.04:28
Toma-try -novm ?04:29
Toma-or whatever that option is04:30
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ZelutI don't see any similar options on the man page..04:33
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jimpZelut: -no-kvm05:48
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Zelutjimp: "qemu: invalid option -- '-no-kvm'"06:00
jimpZelut: that's probably not the kvm modified version of qemu, in that case.. so your problem is not related to kvm at least :)06:00
Zelutjimp: hmm.. I'm using the version of qemu that was a dependency of kvm.06:01
jimpI'm not sure how the packaging was done.  typically when you get kvm there's a qemu-system-x86_64 or similar that is the kvm enabled version06:02
ZelutI wonder what I need to do to get the kvm modified version of qemu.06:03
Zelutall I want to do is test gutsy in kvm. is that so much to ask :)06:03
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DanaGALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'defaults.namehint.extended'07:43
DanaGLater:             ALSA lib pcm.c:2144:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM dmix:Intel07:48
crimsunare you using an asoundrc?07:49
crimsunif so, you need to refresh07:49
crimsunevery alsa-lib version upgrade adds new paramaters; you must sync them.07:49
crimsunI really do document this stuff in the changelogs.07:50
crimsunRead alsa-utils's changelog.07:50
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DanaGOh, I'm using the hg version.08:02
DanaGIs there an easy way to force-reinstall the packaged alsa-libs?08:02
tritiumDanaG: apt-get has a --reinstall option08:02
DanaGOh, I see -- alsa-utils failed to install, so .asoundrc.asoundconf is missing things -- either that, or it's the other way around,08:02
DanaGThat first parameter IS set in .asoundrc.asoundconf, but it's not reading it.08:03
DanaGaah. remove and re-add .asoundrc.asoundconf -- now missing defaults.pcm.dmix.format, but that's just a matter of copying from the one with the last dot as an underscore.08:06
DanaGI'm too tired to deal with it now -- I purged and reinstalled those packaged, but I still get the same error.08:11
crimsunno dude08:13
crimsunasoundconf set-default-card enumerates all the required ones08:13
crimsunthe default section of /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf08:13
DanaGI do aplay and I still get the same error.08:16
DanaGOh, I have an idea: purge the packages again, make uninstall the nonpackaged ones, then reinstall the packaged ones.08:16
DanaGIt seems like no matter what I do, I get either Unable to find definition 'defaults.pcm.dmix.format'  or  the other one (extended...).08:23
DanaGThe .asoundrc.asoundconf has defaults.pcm.dmix_format S32_LE08:24
DanaGI need to go to bed now; I'll deal with it tomorrow.08:26
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EmanonI'm looking for beta testers for an application I wrote called TimeVault that allows you to roll back files to a previous version (like Apple's TimeMachine). Screenshots, initial docs, and .deb installer is on Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/timevault/+download01:31
jrib-offtopic is still better01:34
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dendrobatesSorry for a dumb question, but where are the nightly builds kept?01:44
varkadendrobates: i dont know nightly builds, only daily builds and the current one is here http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/01:45
dendrobatesmuch obliged.01:46
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EmanonAnyone trying to PM me, I'm not registered on this server so I can't PM01:49
xerosisEmanon: I did01:49
xerosisbut I answered my question now :)01:49
matilda2006I have 2 specific problem in ubuntu, can anyone help me?01:51
matilda2006emanon, I have 2 hdd - hdda & hddb01:52
matilda2006in hdda I have XP installed, in hddb I want to install ubuntu. Is it possible?01:53
jribmatilda2006: you are installing gutsy?01:53
matilda2006what is gutsy?01:54
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jribmatilda: it's the development version of ubuntu which is often borken and shouldn't be used by regular users.  This is the support channel for it.  For help with ubuntu, you should ask in #ubuntu01:54
matilda#ubuntu is not helpful, noone answered me, I wasted a lot of time there.01:55
matildaTime has a value to me.01:56
jribto most people I assume01:56
matildaI am not intalling that develoment version.01:56
jribmatilda: you should repeat your question every 20 minutes or so, but you should do so in #ubuntu.  There are other support options as well01:57
jrib!support > matilda (see the private message from ubotu)01:57
matildaI downloaded the live cd.01:57
shirishjrib: I had filed a bug against gutsy , can somebody check https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/12033701:57
ubotuLaunchpad bug 120337 in boinc "boinc fails to be authorized " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 01:57
shirishmatilda: I have done a tutorial on a forum, lemme just find it01:57
shirishmatilda: lol, there is a far far better way01:58
jribshirish: never played with boinc01:58
shirishmatilda ok go to fullcirclemagazine.com & download the e-mag there01:58
shirishthe latest release has full instructions for it.01:58
shirishjrib: can u just check if something is broken, I was not able to connect with the local machine01:58
matildaYou sure there is a full instruction or I will cry.01:59
jribshirish: if I get a chance later, I'll comment01:59
matildalet me check02:00
shirishmatilda: there is enough for you, if you want to try the alternate installer then you can check my article02:00
matildalet me check first02:00
matildashirirsh: u r wim?02:01
matildashirish: u r wim?02:02
shirishmatilda: hang on, net is kinda slow here atm02:03
matildaI understan.02:03
shirishmatilda: http://www.techenclave.com/forums/installing-ubuntu-feisty-7-04-through-89192.html?highlight=ubuntu02:03
shirishbut but of them are for the alternate installers02:04
shirishactually the 1st one is of install, the 2nd is of customizing a bit.02:05
matildaI have a live cd, I tried to install from that.02:05
shirishmatilda: http://www.fullcirclemagazine.org/ that is the magazine, see issue 102:05
shirishits a 6 MBish .pdf file with photos & all02:06
matildaI have downloade it.02:06
matildalet me read it for a while and I will come back.02:06
matildaPlease be here.02:07
shirishI'm here for a while02:07
matildaI don't whether you are a man or woman but you are the most helpful person here.02:08
shirishif you run into issues, just take my name so I know somebody needs me02:08
shirishdoesn't really matter as far as things get done.02:08
matildaI need you and want to be your friend.02:08
matildaAny problem?02:08
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matildaI have another question for you shirish.02:10
shirishmatilda: shoot02:10
shirishbtw I'm a guy02:10
matildavery good02:10
matildais that pdf has the solution for dual booting?02:11
matildaI can't cheech that fully right now for it has 42 x 2 = 84 pages02:12
matildaI suppose.02:12
shirishi skimmed over it, but it should have, its supposed to be for newbies02:12
matildathen it will be good for me also.02:12
matildawhere do you live?02:13
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shirishmatilda: these kind of questions are not entertained here02:16
shirishif you want to chat there is #ubuntu-offtopic for that purpose02:16
matildayou hurt me, sorry for my question, I apologize. Pls don't mind.02:17
matildaThank u for your help.02:17
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xerosishas anyone had any sound problems?02:59
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crimsunxerosis: ...a bit lacking on details, there.03:28
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xerosiscrimsun: well my sound has stopped but it could easily be my hardware, was seeing if anyone else had any problems03:29
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crimsunagain, lacking details03:29
xerosiscrimsun: i don't have any details :p03:29
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crimsunit's a bit difficult to diagnose/troubleshoot when you don't even try03:30
xerosiswell it's kubuntu, everything worked fine yesterday, everything's completely silent today03:31
xerosisall apps seem to be playing, no output03:31
xerosisall umuted etc03:31
crimsunright, still lacking details.03:31
crimsunplease read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the alsa-info.sh script linked from that page.03:31
xerosiscrimsun: sorry for being vague, i just know it's going to be something obvious, could be my lead connecting the computer to my hifi...03:33
xerosiscrimsun: http://pastebin.ca/56647303:36
crimsunxerosis: what does `aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav` return?03:39
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crimsunwhy are you installing alsa-utils?03:39
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xerosisaplay is in alsa-utils?03:40
crimsunplease don't tell me you removed it03:40
xerosisi never had it03:40
crimsunok, I know I didn't break desktop that badly03:40
crimsundid you install from server or some other means?03:40
xerosisnope, just kubuntu feisty -> gutsy03:41
xerosisdon't think it removed anything03:41
crimsunkubuntu feisty _definitely_ ships with alsa-utils03:41
crimsunah, the alsa-lib skew03:42
crimsunasoundconf set-default-card Live03:42
crimsunthen try try the aplay command again03:43
xerosisyay sound :)03:43
crimsunI really do document this stuff in the changelogs03:43
crimsunI suspect I'll be repeating myself for the next few weeks until people learn to actually read changelogs for new packages03:43
xerosissorry, i wouldn't usually read an alsa changelog, i should start03:44
crimsunit's documented in the alsa-utils changelog03:44
crimsunthe Ubuntu changelog03:44
xerosiscrimsun: thanks for your help, i promise to read more changelogs :)03:45
crimsunI strongly recommend you do so.  You're running a development branch where people are expected to act proactively and intelligently.03:46
xerosisthe changelog still means nothing to me03:48
crimsunI'll make it even more explicit next time, then.03:49
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socdoes someone know the status/progress of upstart?04:22
crimsunmakes sense to ask in its dev channel.04:23
crimsunalso, a more precise question would undoubtedly be appreciated by Scott et al.04:23
socsorry, ok04:23
socseems half of the channels on freenode are somehow ubuntu-related ...04:23
socyet another channel ...04:24
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akrusNew Ubuntu icons are so cute!!!05:01
akrusgo go ubuntu!05:01
akrusupdated synaptic05:02
akrusand restarted it05:02
akruslooks better now :)05:03
Toma-i c!05:03
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akrusfriend of mine has just installed Kubuntu, trying it :)05:03
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jimpcrimsun: tjos06:20
jimpcrimsun: oops sorry.  this "alsa-lib skew", I don't see any mention of that in06:20
jimpam I just blind?06:20
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novellohi, i've upgraded to gutsy, but libc6 give me some problem, can i downgrade to old libc6? i can't do it by synaptic without remove gnome.... what i can do?06:35
calcnovello: reinstall feisty06:36
novello:( you have the same problem?06:36
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calcnovello: no, but you can't easily downgrade glibc06:39
calcnovello: i'm running gutsy on my desktop and feisty on my laptop06:39
novelloon desktop you have the new libc6?06:39
gnomefreakdont ever change the version of libc606:40
gnomefreakyou will end up with nothing but problems06:40
novellook, thanks06:41
novelloif i use kde that problems are still?06:44
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stefgHi, how broken is gutsy at this moment? I just want to have a look, and could upgrade a Feisty-VM (copy). r is it more advisable to go the long way and install tribe1 from  scratch?07:14
Hobbseestefg: either works.  doesnt seem too broken at the moment, at least here07:15
crimsunit's horribly broken.07:15
crimsundon't use it.07:15
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stefgok, thx... so an upgrade will do. Just wanted to avoid to dist-upgrade into a currently broken state07:15
stefgcrimsun: i don't want to use it, i just want to have a look :-)07:16
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes07:17
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pwnguinafaik, the updater's broke07:22
stefgi go cli anyway07:23
pwnguinit's been documented, confirmed, investigated, patched and is waiting on one of the core devs to notice07:23
Hobbseethat...goes without saying07:23
Hobbseepwnguin: consider it noticed.07:23
Hobbseepwnguin: no point in doing anything about it yet, though.07:23
Hobbseepwnguin: bug #?  i wonder what the patch says07:24
pwnguinwhy's that?07:24
stefgActually i can't recall having seen the updater /not/ broken during the last 3 releases to some degree :-\07:24
pwnguinthe patch says "import os"07:24
Hobbseeah right07:24
pwnguini probably made the patch wrong07:24
pwnguinbut it's such a trivial fix07:25
Hobbseemainly because everything's still changing a lot07:25
pwnguinbug 118862 if you're still looking for it07:28
ubotuLaunchpad bug 118862 in update-manager "update-manager -c -d DOESN'T work for going to Gutsy" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11886207:28
stefgBTW has anyone attempted to move an install out of a VM to a real partition (not running in VM-Ware). Anything special required to make the install aware of the new hardware, besides obvious things like xorg not running on the vmware-driver any longer?07:28
stefgand the grub stuff ofcourse07:29
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pwnguinwhat i dont get is how the automatic dist-upgrade testing spec can be in beta and not have found this07:29
pwnguinHobbsee: well thats mean07:30
Hobbseethe transitional packages, etc, arent in place yet, because gutsy *keeps changing*07:30
Hobbseepwnguin: so that newbies cant automatically run it, and suddenly find themselves running gutsy, basically07:32
Hobbseebecause it doesnt clean-upgrade yet.  or didnt, pre-herd1.07:32
Hobbseepwnguin: the metapackages (*-desktop) arent even installable a lot of the time.07:32
Hobbseeso the upgrader will die regardless07:32
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crimsunoh right, I can blame Hobbsee now for core damage07:33
Hobbseewhen did you upgrade?07:33
Hobbseeherd ?07:33
Hobbseecrimsun: no you cant.07:33
Hobbseealthough i need to fix some of hte herd 2 milestoned bugs.07:33
stefgHobbsee: it's tribes now, no more herds...07:33
pwnguinsometime after tribe 1 i upgraded07:34
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crimsunblame the customers.07:34
pwnguinsince, go figure, just pulling the gutsy kernel into feisty wasn't working perfectly ;)07:34
Hobbseestefg: it's habit, i'm afraid.  i grammar/sanity checked too many of hte herd releases07:34
Hobbseecrimsun: oh i do, i do.  batshit insane lady that she was.07:34
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Hobbseepwnguin: everything was installable then, iirc.  from main, at least07:35
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pwnguinif you honestly don't want anyone to use dist-upgrade, wouldn't removing whatever upgrade-manager polls to find new releases do the trick?07:37
PriceChildpwnguin, wel that is done... because it won't work unless you give it forcing options...07:37
PriceChild-c -d or w/e07:38
Hobbseethat's done in adept.  release notes dont exist yet.07:38
Hobbseenot sure how the ubuntu one gets around that either, tbh.07:38
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pwnguinat any rate, this is too much effort to waste on a silly "can't possibly work" bug.07:40
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Hobbseepwnguin: there was a major update on the 13th...you've checked if that actually fixes the bug, presumably?07:43
pwnguinin feisty?07:43
Hobbseeno, in gutsy07:44
Hobbseerandomly backporting things to gutsy is bad07:44
Hobbseewithou ttesting07:45
Hobbseeer to feisty07:45
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pwnguinit would be pretty hard to test that i think07:45
pwnguinit should discover "hey, theres no new dev version"07:46
pwnguinand not bother running the python code that fails07:46
gnomefreakdont use the -d flag and you wont have that problem07:46
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pwnguingnomefreak: duly noted.07:50
DanaGOdd, when I do asoundconf set-default-cad Intel,07:53
DanaGthen aplay -L no longer shows iec958.07:53
DanaGI also get:    ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'defaults.pcm.dmix.format'07:53
DanaG.asoundrc.asoundconf sets this:                 defaults.pcm.dmix_format S32_LE07:54
crimsunthat's correct.07:55
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DanaGEven with the difference of format?08:00
DanaGI mean, dot versus underscore.08:00
DanaGLater on, I get "Unknown PCM dmix:Intel"08:01
crimsunit needs to be full stops.08:02
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DanaGWhat's odd is that asoundconf is making it with underscores.08:04
crimsunyes, it's a bug08:05
crimsunI've fixed it08:05
crimsuntry http://trilug.org/~crimsun/asoundconf08:05
DanaGOnce I fix that, I get "Unable to find definition 'defaults.namehint.extended'" -- even though .asoundrc.asoundconf has it defined.  Is that the same bug and fix?08:05
crimsunyou need to rerun asoundconf set-default-card08:06
crimsunare you using gutsy's alsa-lib?08:06
DanaGI've gone back to it.08:06
gnomefreakcrimsun: that link is a 40408:06
DanaGI purged and reinstalled everything related to alsa and libasound.08:06
gnomefreakwell not found08:06
DanaGLink works for me.08:07
gnomefreakoh that was irssis fault08:07
gnomefreakit added the time in there08:07
DanaGWith the linked asoundconf, it fixes the underscore-versus-dot issue, but the other issue is still there.08:08
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DanaGaplay: version 1.0.14 by Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>08:10
DanaGRedownload what -- package, or source?08:12
crimsunthe script, but hold08:13
crimsunI think I've found an autotools bug08:13
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DanaGOh, I see, I redownloaded it under a different name -- then diff'd it.08:14
DanaGI can never remember which way the arrows point in a diff.08:14
hbx-07if i follow this guide here http://blog.mypapit.net/2007/06/how-to-setup-tor-and-privoxy-in-ubuntu-feisty-fawn.html some proxy test site still shows my IP. any ideas how to troubleshoot that?08:14
pwnguinDanaG: i find -Naur works best08:17
pwnguinDanaG: + and -'s seems to make more sense to me08:18
gnomefreakhbx-07: feisty support is in #ubuntu08:18
hbx-07asking on a 1000 user channel is pointless08:19
gnomefreakhbx-07: this channel wont answer you. ask in #ubuntu or #kubuntu08:20
pwnguinthen use answers.launchpad.com08:20
hbx-07IRC support is a royal pain in the anus. everywhere.08:21
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gnomefreakhbx-07: try #launchpad if its strictly iRC08:21
DanaGOh yeah, now it doesn't put those lines in .asoundrc.asoundconf, but I still get the same message.08:22
gnomefreakyes tor is a way to connect to IRC08:22
gnomefreakit does other things as well08:23
pwnguinah. good point08:23
pwnguinbut why launchpad instead of #freenode?08:23
gnomefreakoh thats what i meant08:23
gnomefreakhe was gone anyway08:24
DanaGI noticed: the instructions he linked to don't set it to be used for HTTP.08:25
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gnomefreakPriceChild: i think the output you are looking for is only outputed in -ops08:26
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gnomefreakunless it was opened up for other channels08:26
crimsunDanaG: please redownload the script08:26
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crimsunDanaG: remember to nuke ~/.asoundrc* (or back it up out of the way) first, then rerun asoundconf set-default-card foo08:27
gnomefreakPriceChild: :)08:27
hwildeis there any reason why the ethernet devices swap names on reboots?  is there something new available to fix this?08:27
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DanaGCool, now I don't get that error.08:28
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DanaGI wonder why it didn't work before, when it seemed like the lines were already there.08:28
DanaGWas it just a matter of order?08:28
crimsunyes, order is very important08:29
crimsunsyntax also didn't match precisely08:29
crimsunuploaded.  I've credited you in the changelog.08:30
DanaGShould you use my real name?08:30
DanaGDana Goyette08:30
DanaGs/Should you/Would you like to/08:31
crimsunI used whatever's listed in your irc client08:31
crimsunircname  : Dana Goyette08:31
crimsunyou could just read gutsy-changes ;)08:32
DanaGI see it's a mailing list; is it also a newsgroup that I can set Thunderbird to use?08:33
crimsungmane probably "gateways" it08:34
DanaGaah, nice: one click setup tool.08:37
DanaGI mean, Thunderbird is default nntp:// handler.08:38
pwnguinthunderbird can't handle mailing lists?08:38
DanaGI like to keep them separate.08:41
DanaGThat's one reason I don't use Outlook or Evolution: can't separate POP accounts, for example.08:41
pwnguini just forward everything to my gmail account ;)08:41
DanaGOnce the ubuntu-mobile is complete enough to install, I'll put it in a VM.08:45
DanaGI tried installing ubuntu-mobile on my current system, but I didn't dare let it replace my applications menu structure.  Thus, it was itself broken, but it didn't break anything on the rest of my system.08:46
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pwnguinhmm. "generous amounts of RAM". doesn't sound like the DS08:48
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DanaGThere's a #ubuntu-mobile on freenode.09:05
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DanaGHmm, I hope in the future there will be some preset upmix and downmix virtual devices.  I think over the weekend I'll file a wishlist bug on that.09:08
crimsunI'm working on that already09:08
crimsunit will ship it gutsy09:08
crimsunvery, very, very rough sketch09:09
crimsunas in it currently does jack, but I'll be extending the UI from there09:09
crimsunship with gutsy, even09:10
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nullkuhlanyone in htere ?09:12
crimsunwhere is "htere" precisely?09:12
nullkuhlhere* lol09:13
pwnguinhalfway between here and there, i think09:13
nullkuhliwas thinking abt trying gutsy and i wanted to ask09:13
bonbonthejonsounds right to me PW09:13
DanaGThat phrasing "ship with gutsy, even," seems odd to me.  I usually use the word "er, ...".09:13
nullkuhlif it achieved anywish of those that was in the wishlist in the forum09:13
crimsunDanaG: ?09:13
crimsunthat was a correction of "it will ship it gutsy"09:13
crimsunbut yes, even may just be an eccentricity09:14
pwnguintoo much snagglepuss09:14
gnomefreaknullkuhl: if you want somehting added you would more than likely need to file a wishlist bug on launchpad, last i heard devel doesnt troll the forums looking for wishlists09:17
gnomefreakthe maintainers are notified when put on launchpad09:17
pwnguinpretty much I dont think developers go around looking for what other people want done; they either do what people are willing to pay for, or what interests themselves, sometimes both09:19
gnomefreakit would be nice to intergate forums (someone takes a forum wishlist and filies it in LP but that hasnt happened yet and i dont even think its been in talks09:19
pwnguinive been told that they tried t o gateway the forums09:19
pwnguinbut they undid that09:19
DanaGhttp://gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/cowon-q5-pmp-with-hsdpa-and-gps-announcedagain-250553.php   <-- /me wishes he could run ubuntu-mobile on one of these.09:19
gnomefreakpwnguin: we do for what would best suite everyone, but we are not gonna go looking all over web for ideas09:19
pwnguinthat first part didnt parse well09:20
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DanaGHmm, perhaps it's VLC doing it.11:00
DanaGHmm, running nautilus in console doesn't give debug output.11:02
DanaGI believe I have some medibuntu packages installed, so that makes it harder to debug.11:02
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pwnguinhe's right11:07
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DanaGI'll roll everything medibuntu back to official.11:08
pwnguini hit properties and nautilus restarts11:09
pwnguinthe reason nautilus doesn't give debug output is because it attaches to another running session11:09
pwnguinnautilus is also your background (root windows)11:10
pwnguinunfortunately, im not sure how to stop it from reviving itself11:11
pwnguinthere we go11:15
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pwnguinDanaG: if you're still trying to replicate, make sure to remove nautilus from "current sessions" first11:25
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DanaGRight now I've removed totem-gstreamer and I'll try totem-xine.11:28
pwnguinbug 118302 says fix committed, and i dont think it has to do with gstreamer vs xine11:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 118302 in totem "symbol lookup error in libtotem-properties-page.so"" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11830211:34
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DanaGHmm, why does Nautilus open ~ every single time it starts?11:45
DanaGThe session manager should launch "nautilus -n", not plain "nautilus".11:45
DanaGfor --no-default-window.11:45
pwnguindoes this happen when you log in?11:46
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DanaGEvery time the session manager starts Nautilus, be it from login or from Nautilus crashing, it happens.11:51
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DanaGHmm, pulseaudio is segfaulting... that's not good.12:08
DanaGWhat's the relevant -dbg package?12:09
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DanaGIt's interesting to do "strings <whatever your swap partition is>"12:16
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pwnguinhmm. on the one hand, it looks like adding the rotation support i want to nv will be easy12:24
pwnguin on the other hand, building could be a huge pita12:24
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