[12:25] <keescook> only 4 left to triage from the current list!
[12:26] <Kmos> keescook: yep
[12:27] <keescook> 3 left!
[12:28] <Kmos> bug 115741
[12:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115741 in kubuntu-meta "Kde Desktop configure behaviour tab does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115741
[12:28] <coNP> keescook: which list?
[12:28] <Kmos> keescook: i've changed this one to kubuntu-meta
[12:28] <Kmos> coNP: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20070613
[12:29] <coNP> okay I also did some
[12:29] <coNP> but at the end I did not edit the wiki
[12:29] <Kmos> coNP :)
[12:30] <Kmos> I also edited bug 108012
[12:30] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 108012 in linux-source-2.6.20 "2 instances of secondlife can freeze the whole system" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108012
[12:30] <coNP> cool
[12:31] <crimsun> I think I edited that one
[12:35] <brycer> lotta green
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #120278 in vlc (universe) "[Gutsy]  VLC Crashes instantly fails to Start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120278
[12:39] <crimsun> bdmurray: since you're updating, please make 99863 green, too.
[12:39] <crimsun> That should bring the total open down to zero.
[12:40] <crimsun> (open meaning "not green" or some value thereof)
[12:41] <bdmurray> crimsun: just finished but okay
[12:42] <crimsun> wiki said you were editing when I clicked Edit.
[12:42] <bdmurray> it took me a while to find the bug to mark
[12:43] <Burgundavia> bdmurray: have you seen a bug wherein NM freezes the entire computer upon resume?
[12:43] <bdmurray> Burgundavia: no that does not sound familiar
[12:44] <Burgundavia> ok
[12:44] <Burgundavia> I need to reinstall and will see if it reappears
[12:45] <heno> wow, the bug day page is looking very green :)
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #120280 in python-numarray (main) "numarray index slicing doesn't work properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120280
[12:45] <pochu> heno: you have drunk too much heineken :p
[12:46] <heno> pochu: or just the right amount perhaps :)
[12:47] <pochu> :)
[12:47] <heno> it's too many when *I* start looking green
[12:47] <bdmurray> heh
[12:47] <pochu> But we are still on top of the 30000 bugs
[12:48] <bdmurray> pochu: barely, just do 100
[12:48] <heno> yeah, it will be lovely to break that barrier
[12:49] <pochu> Maybe another HugDay for tomorrow and we're done ;)
[12:49] <crimsun> tomorrow is universe hug day
[12:49] <coNP> there are parts of the world where it is still yesterday :)
[12:49] <crimsun> I'm sure we can knock out a few more bugs
[12:49] <bdmurray> yes, I have 8 more hours of Hug Day
[12:49] <pochu> coNP: yeah!
[12:49] <pochu> bdmurray: rock on :)
[12:50] <coNP> universe hugday sounds cool
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #120281 in thunderbird (main) "Opening a message from the drafts folder for editing does not remove added linebreaks" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120281
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #120282 in gnomp3 (universe) "Gnomp3 appears to not work at all" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120282
[01:03] <bdmurray> calc: does tagging openoffice bugs seem worth while to you?
[01:04] <calc> bdmurray: i'm still new at this, you mean tagging to have other people look at it?
[01:06] <pochu> !tags
[01:06] <ubotu> We use some common tags for tracking bugs on Launchpad.net See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags for common usage.
[01:06] <bdmurray> calc: one thing we have been doing is tagging bugs to make them easier to find.  I've been tagging openoffice.org bugs based on their subcomponent
[01:06] <pochu> calc: in the left pannel, there's a link which says "Edit description/tags".
[01:06] <bdmurray> i.e ooo-impress
[01:06] <pochu> They're @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags
[01:07] <calc> bdmurray: ok that sounds good to me
[01:17] <bdmurray> keescook: why isn't gcc included by default?
[01:18] <keescook> I thought it was (I think it's needed for boot-time restricted linking?)
[01:18] <bdmurray> okay maybe I really meant build-essential
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #120284 in rhythmbox (main) "video podcasts show as failed downloads" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120284
[01:21] <keescook> I think build-essential is just not needed for day-to-day stuff
[01:22] <bdmurray> Right, I agree but was trying to figure out how to phrase it for bug 72637
[01:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 72637 in Ubuntu "GCC major bug" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72637
[01:22] <hggdh> pochu: hello -- got a question
[01:29] <pochu> Hi hggdh. Please ask :)
[01:29] <hggdh> pochu: bug 102179
[01:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 102179 in bash "non-ASCII characters in PS1 cause cursor to appear in wrong place" [Low,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102179
[01:30] <hggdh> pochu: how is it decided if a bug is worth of a backport?
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #120285 in Ubuntu "Superblock not read at boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120285
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #120286 in casper (main) "(Feat Req) Allow Boot Modifications with Driver Updates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120286
[01:31] <pochu> hggdh: backports are for new releases, or for not-so-important bugs. But important bugs should go to -updates
[01:33] <hggdh> pochu: this one is not important enough, I guess (except for the few that happen to use accented characters)... so I guess I should leave it be?
[01:34] <pochu> hggdh: I think so. For backports, we file bugs in lp.net/$release-backports
[01:34] <pochu> e.g. https://launchpad.net/feisty-backports
[01:34] <hggdh> pochu: thanks.
[01:34] <pochu> You're welcome
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #120288 in Ubuntu "upgrade to 2.6.20-16 causes wireless card not to be recognized" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120288
[01:47] <pochu> Ok folks, I'm off to bed.
[01:47] <pochu> See you tomorrow!
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #120289 in update-manager (main) "update manager error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120289
[01:53] <bdmurray> great hug day everyone!
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #120291 in kdebase (main) "Konqueror is not fully compatible with gmail webmail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120291
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #120293 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120293
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #120294 in hlatex-fonts (universe) "package hlatex-fonts-base failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120294
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #120295 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Gusty livecd fails to boot on PS3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120295
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #120296 in python-scipy (universe) "python-scipy dependency error at Gutsy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120296
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #120297 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "rt2500 module missing from gutsy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120297
[02:43] <brycer> bdmurray, I also worked on one of the bitesize bugs this afternoon (the wacom xorg warnings) - got a patch for it, but it could make life difficult for some wacom users so we actually want to keep current behavior
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #54253 in bzr-svn "Excessive memory usage in bzr-svn" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/54253
[02:47] <brycer> bdmurray, I also dug into a battery bug 120258 since it sounded like something I could fix, but it looks like the gnome tool is pulling the info from HAL, which I don't know much about, so unfortunately I didn't get far there
[02:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120258 in gnome-power-manager "Laptop Battery Time Remaining Outrageously  Inaccurate" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120258
[02:47] <brycer> (I've got that problem on my new dell as well)
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #120298 in Ubuntu "Gutsy cannot get IP using DHCP on wired network" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120298
[02:56] <ubotu> New bug: #120299 in kftpgrabber (universe) "Please sync kftpgrabber (0.8.1-1) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120299
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #120300 in kftpgrabber (universe) "Please synce kftpgrabber (0.8.1-1) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120300
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #120301 in rt2500 (universe) "rt2500 fails to build" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120301
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #120302 in Ubuntu "Feisty Sound not working at all on a toshiba a200 satellite has intel HDA" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120302
[04:10] <brycer> haw, figured out the gnome-power-manager bug :-) :-)
[04:13] <Hobbsee> yay!
[04:13] <jjesse> bug fixed?
[04:13] <jjesse> yay
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #120305 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Cannot modprobe snd-hda-intel following upgrade to Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120305
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #120304 in espeak (main) "Please merge espeak 1.26-1ubuntu1." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120304
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #120310 in Ubuntu "Soft Lockup Detected on CPU#0 when hibernate and occasionaly during boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120310
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #120311 in openssh (main) "openssh-server does not recognize keyboard interactive authentication" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120311
[05:19] <brycer> yup, fixed for me.  Someone more gconf-aware will need to figure out how to make the gconf setting the default
[05:20] <brycer> I just finished going through ALL of the gnome-power-manager bugs and found a whole slew of very similar sounding bugs.
[05:20] <brycer> I marked them all NEEDS_INFO and asked them to test out my solution
[05:21] <brycer> that should give the g-p-m maintainer info on whether to make the change
[05:21] <brycer> if nothing else, it might scare up a bunch we can mark as dupes
[05:21] <bdmurray> brycer: did you see some where the laptop shuts down prematurely?
[05:22] <brycer> yup
[05:22] <brycer> I *think* this bug may be the cause of that behavior too
[05:22] <brycer> I was too chicken to test that though; I killed g-p-m off before it got to 0
[05:23] <bdmurray> what do you mean?
[05:23] <brycer> wow, down to 30080 bugs... 80 more to go
[05:23] <Hobbsee> hiya bdmurray
[05:23] <brycer> well, initially it was telling me I had 55 min on a full battery
[05:23] <brycer> whereas acpi reported I had 4-5 hrs
[05:24] <brycer> 52 min later a popup said I had 3 min remaining before it'd shut off
[05:24] <brycer> I killed g-p-m, then restarted it several minutes later
[05:24] <brycer> it believed I had about 0 sec of time before discharge, but my system kept working for another 3 hours
[05:25] <brycer> but after flipping that switch, everything went back to correctness
[05:25] <brycer> I feel a bit silly for spending 4 hrs tracking this bug down, and find its' fixed by a single checkbox... but there ya go
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #120312 in ktorrent (main) "Sponsor: KTorrent 2.2~rc1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120312
[05:26] <bdmurray> what happened to me one time was it shutdown and the I turned it back on and it kept going for quite a while.
[05:26] <brycer> yeah I could see that happening because of this too
[05:27] <brycer> btw, my myth box lost its drives again this morning
[05:27] <brycer> I checked temps and sure enough the drives were too hot
[05:27] <bdmurray> temporarily or ?
[05:28] <brycer> I've put a box fan blowing on it, and removed one of the drives, let it all cool off, and started it up again.  it's been fine sinse
[05:28] <brycer> since
[05:28] <brycer> temporarily (at least for now)
[05:28] <brycer> I think I should migrate off those two drives though.  sheesh
[05:28] <brycer> also, got the new memory for my new myth box, and it (finally) booted up properly
[05:29] <brycer> I'd been using some spare non-ECC RAM from one of my other machines, but this one wants ECC
[05:29] <bdmurray> I should be working on my myth system now . . .
[05:41] <ubotu> New bug: #120314 in gnome-terminal (main) "Terminal window font color with desktop effects" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120314
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #120315 in psi (universe) "Upgrading to 0.11" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120315
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #120316 in Ubuntu "gutsy install cd (alternate) will not detect cdrom within qemu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120316
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #120317 in xorg (main) "xorg.conf xServer error in Gutsy and Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120317
[06:11] <ubotu> New bug: #120318 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "Integrated AUDIO and LAN does not recognized by installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120318
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #120319 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "[UPDATE]  New beta of the flashplayer available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120319
[06:26] <crimsun> geez
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #120320 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  tomcat6" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120320
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #120321 in Ubuntu "Request to inclusion of Lazarus in Gutsy." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120321
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #120322 in brasero "Add functionality to make multiple copies of a disk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120322
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #120323 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Suspending Feisty never reaches S3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120323
[07:01] <ubotu> New bug: #120324 in Ubuntu "please sync package mediawiki1.10 from debian experimental" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120324
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #120326 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  gnash 0.8.0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120326
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #120325 in linux-meta (main) "virtual machines can't start in vmware-server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120325
[07:06] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i seem to caused an issue on the commit I just ran to bughelper-data
[07:07] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone take a look?
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #120327 in python-numeric (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120327
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #120328 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  gpac 0.4.4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120328
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #120329 in python-numarray (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120329
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #120330 in lxml (universe) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120330
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #120331 in totem (main) "totem crashes with Segmentation fault (core dumped)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120331
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #120332 in vmware-player-kernel-2.6.15 (multiverse) "vmware-player-kernel-modules not available for Gutsy kernel 2.6.22" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120332
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #120333 in pycxx (universe) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120333
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #120334 in pysvn (universe) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120334
[07:22] <crimsun> um...
[07:22] <crimsun> #120319 is a no-go
[07:22] <crimsun> that plugin is completely broken
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #120335 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  freecol 0.6.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120335
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #120336 in Ubuntu "work space switcher disappaer from the panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120336
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> I've fixed the commit error I made.
[07:41] <ubotu> New bug: #120337 in boinc (universe) "boinc fails to be authorized " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120337
[07:48] <ubotu> New bug: #120338 in Ubuntu "Toshiba satellite A200 - switching user causes frozen computer." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120338
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #120342 in Ubuntu "If using XGL+Beryl, some java window cannot show its menu." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120342
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> someone want to mark bug 120321 as not wishlisted
[08:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120321 in lazarus "[needs-packaging]  Lazarus" [Wishlist,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120321
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> the fix was committed recently.../me not on QA
[08:26] <ubotu> New bug: #120343 in gnome-session (main) "[gutsy] gnome-session-properties crashes trying to enable "beagle search tool"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120343
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #120344 in desktop-effects (main) "Desktop effects don't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120344
[08:47] <dholbach> good morning
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> morning
[08:47] <dholbach> hey Admiral_Chicago
[08:49] <thekorn> good morning dholbach
[08:50] <dholbach> heya thekorn
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #120345 in dx (universe) "please sync dx 1:4.4.0-3 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120345
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #120346 in Ubuntu "A window in Main Screen could not be dragged directly into the second screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120346
[09:06] <coNP> is anyone familiar with KDE developers?
[09:06] <coNP> Bug #119776 certainly qualifies as a bug in my opinion however they seem to have another opinion...
[09:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119776 in amarok "amarok playlist error" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119776
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> looking
[09:09] <coNP> thanks Admiral_Chicago, I am definitely a Gnome guy, just bumped into a KDE bug :)
[09:09] <coNP> however, I run amarok :)
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> coNP: hmm, thats odd behavior...but i don't know
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> ask if anyone can reproduce it
[09:11] <coNP> I can
[09:11] <coNP> we confirmed it
[09:11] <coNP> on lp
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> that's not the original reporter
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i didn't read close enough
[09:12] <coNP> I mean I confirmed it and also wanted to report upstream (but the original reporter did that already)
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> i saw that, it didn't explictedly say "reproduced" so i was confused.
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> i suppose the next step would be to wait on upstream
[09:12] <coNP> Yep, I only confirmed the status as I could reproduce it.
[09:13] <coNP> But upstream said "this is not a real bug, go away"!
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #120349 in Ubuntu "Digikam will not start on Kubuntu 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120349
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #120351 in firefox (main) "My Email and firefox browser cannot be minimised on to the task bar and when i close it i have to restart computer to open another browser." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120351
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #120350 in kdebase (main) "[kubuntu]  konqueror: cannot create a folder if a file of the same name already exists" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120350
[09:54] <owh> Can someone help me with the Importance level of a bug? Bug #73310. The bug makes the application not usable, since you cannot see the selected text or locate the result of a find.
[09:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 73310 in gphpedit "Selected text colour does not follow theme" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/73310
[09:55] <owh> The bug was set to low by Adri2000, but there was no conversation as to why this was so decided.
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #120352 in Ubuntu "Usability concern in Ubuntu install wizard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120352
[10:03] <minghua> owh: if you don't plan to work on the bug, I suggest you not to change the importance
[10:04] <ccm> owh: well i think it is low as 1. it does not prevent the application from bein started an 2. it seems to occur only when you have a tft/lcd with bad contrast
[10:05] <owh> minghua: That's a fair observation. I was unsure how importance was determined, since for me the bug makes the application unusable. So for me it's important.
[10:05] <coNP> read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance, it is a bug that "Can be easily worked around" (Low)
[10:05] <owh> coNP: I do not know how to work around this bug.
[10:06] <coNP> set another theme, use another editor
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #120353 in rhythmbox (main) "rhytmbox crashes while listening internet radio. " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120353
[10:06] <coNP> the bugs are classified from the point of view of the whole Ubuntu, not the separate packages I think
[10:06] <coNP> actually this, as every bug, should be fixed
[10:07] <owh> coNP: Setting another theme, from the default theme mind you, does not actually help. Using another editor would be useful if there was another editor with this functionality. nedit was my preferred editor for years, but it has been unloved. gphpedit was the next choice.
[10:07] <owh> coNP: Fair enough, Ubuntu users as a whole don't care about gphpedit :)
[10:08] <coNP> owh: don't feel like that
[10:08] <owh> coNP: I mean, in terms of user population, gphpedit does not see as much use as say gedit, which in it's own right is borked:), but I'm not feeling neglected. I just wanted to know how priorities are determined.
[10:09] <ccm> owh: see this for more: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance
[10:09] <owh> Yeah, it's opening in my browser.
[10:10] <ccm> and actually the better place to discuss is #ubuntu-devel i guess
[10:10] <coNP> ccm: better motu, I guess, this is not a main app
[10:10] <owh> Based on the URL that coNP and ccm showed me, this is still a medium bug. I'm not using anything weird as a setup and there is no actual work around.
[10:10] <ccm> coNP: then be it motu :)
[10:10] <owh> I just thought I'd ask.
[10:10] <coNP> owh: so the actual bug is that the selection color does not adhere to the theme?
[10:11] <owh> coNP: Yes, that is how it shows up.
[10:11] <owh> coNP: The upshot of it is that it uses a really pale colour that you cannot distinguish from the background color.
[10:11] <owh> coNP: Making it *really* hard to see what you've got selected :)
[10:12] <owh> coNP: If I could make it black, I would have been happy :)
[10:12] <coNP> owh: okay, I try to investigate the problem
[10:12] <owh> coNP: Tah.
[10:13] <ccm> owh/conp: http://www.gphpedit.org/bugs/bug_view.php?id=184
[10:14] <owh> Heh.
[10:14] <owh> That was reported well after I reported it :)
[10:15] <ccm> owh: yes, the point is, there is already an upstream bug report and this might be good point to push development
[10:15] <coNP> okay owh you can register the upstream bug tracker in LP
[10:15] <owh> ccm Yes, sorry, my brain wasn't working. I'll do that coNP
[10:16] <owh> Thanks all.
[10:16] <ccm> :)
[10:16] <coNP> then report that the bug should also be fixed upstream and link that upstream bug
[10:16] <coNP> yw, owh
[10:16] <ccm> glad to help
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #120354 in Ubuntu "_cache->open() failed, please report." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120354
[10:18] <BugMaN> hi
[10:18] <BugMaN> bug #46013
[10:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 46013 in backupninja "mail-command instead of rmail" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/46013
[10:18] <BugMaN> i'ts better to  add mail-transport-agent on depends ??
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #120355 in gnome-panel (main) "_cache->open() failed, please report." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120355
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #120356 in gtk-im-libthai (main) "Please sync from debian/unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120356
[10:22] <owh> Hmm, I feel like a dunce. How do I tell launchpad that there is an upstream bug? LP is asking me to "Update the packaging information" and if I search for gphpedit in the projects there are no matches.
[10:23] <coNP> owh: therefore I suggested you that you should register the bug tracking system of gphpedit first
[10:23] <owh> Ah, yes. /me clicks away.
[10:26] <pochu> BugMaN: yes
[10:26] <BugMaN> pochu: ok i'll make the patch for gutsy now
[10:26] <pochu> BugMaN: err, no. Add mailx. Why you ask?
[10:27] <BugMaN> pochu: ok i don't konw which packages contains mail
[10:27] <coNP> hey pochu, how many bugs did you hug today? :)
[10:27] <pochu> Are you a bug or a feature? ;)
[10:27] <pochu> BugMaN: run mail in terminal, and it'll tell you.
[10:27] <pochu> (Providing you don't have it installed)
[10:28] <BugMaN> pochu: mail works in terminal, but it's installed by default in ubuntu??
[10:29] <pochu> I don't think so. At least not here ;9
[10:29] <pochu> BugMaN: mailx and mailutils contain it.
[10:29] <BugMaN> pochu: ok then i add mailx and mailutils to depends in control file
[10:29] <pochu> BugMaN: Provably just one of them.
[10:29] <pochu> Or add them as "foo | bar"
[10:29] <BugMaN> pochu: ok it's better
[10:29] <pochu> But I'm not sure, I don't know either the command or the packages :)
[10:30] <pochu> Look at the description to see if both are valid.
[10:31] <BugMaN> pochu: ok
[10:32] <BugMaN> pochu: mailutils have more utils and MORE dependancy and provide mailx
[10:34] <BugMaN> pochu: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=mail&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=gutsy&arch=i386
[10:34] <BugMaN> pochu: it's the same i suppose
[10:36] <pochu> BugMaN: If it provides mailx, then it has a similar or the same mail command, so it's valid too :)
[10:38] <coNP> owh: it is a one-line fix
[10:38] <coNP> owh: it is a bitesize patch
[10:38] <coNP> I might upload a fix soon
[10:38] <owh> coNP: Excellent. It sounds like it's less work to fix it that it is to register the bug tracker :)
[10:38] <coNP> (I intend to do so but has lots to do )
[10:39] <coNP> good luck, owh :)
[10:39] <owh> Thanks :)
[10:40] <BugMaN> for auto-closing bug in LP i must insert (LP #bugnumer) ?
[10:40] <BugMaN> *#bugnumber
[10:43] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, someone want to look at the mozilla-thunderbird clue file? it doesn't seem to run for me,
[10:44] <Admiral_Chicago> trying one more thing...
[10:44] <Admiral_Chicago> I'm getting this out: parser error : Premature end of data in tag clues line 2
[10:44] <BugMaN> pochu: done! thanks for the help
[10:45] <pochu> BugMaN: the syntax is "LP: "
[10:45] <owh> coNP: I don't see how I can register the gphpedit bug tracker. I'm happy to create a user on their tracker, and add the update and that there is a fix available if you like. Not particularly automated I know. I'm open to suggestions.
[10:45] <BugMaN> pochu: without #?
[10:45] <pochu> e.g. "LP: #123"
[10:45] <pochu> BugMaN: doesn't matter, but the important thing is "LP: "
[10:45] <Admiral_Chicago> ah it was missing a /
[10:45] <Admiral_Chicago> grrr.
[10:45] <pochu> with the colon
[10:45] <owh> coNP: They're using a proprietary tracker of some description.
[10:45] <BugMaN> pochu: ah ok i'm use  (LP: #xxx)
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #120359 in Ubuntu "Update feisty openoffice.org pkg to 2.2.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120359
[10:46] <pochu> BugMaN: cool :)
[10:46] <coNP> owh: okay I guess they don't really need a patch
[10:46] <coNP> actually they set up this color to be the selection color
[10:46] <BugMaN> pochu: Are you an universe sponsors?
[10:46] <owh> I'm happy to submit it to the author direct. I'm sure he'd be happy to receive it.
[10:46] <coNP> if you comment this out then the default is used (big suprise :))
[10:47] <coNP> so I guess we then make a comment with the lp URL
[10:47] <pochu> BugMaN: I'm not, sorry
[10:47] <owh> coNP: You mean, the code sets the color directly and if you don't then it uses the theme?
[10:47] <pochu> BugMaN: but you can ask in #ubuntu-motu :)
[10:47] <BugMaN> pochu: ok thanks
[10:47] <BugMaN> pochu: yes!
[10:47] <coNP> owh: exactly
[10:47] <owh> coNP: Someone must be colordeaf :)
[10:48] <owh> coNP: I'll create a user on their tracker in the mean time.
[10:48] <coNP> oipat: if everything goes well it will be done in an hour
[10:48] <coNP> sorry oipat, I meant owh
[10:48] <owh> coNP: Fantastic. Thanks.
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> yea its still screwing with me: http://paste.stgraber.org/1569 any ideas
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> is the formating wrong?
[10:51] <coNP> Admiral_Chicago: sure, the first clue is closed twice
[10:51] <coNP> first end of line 26, then in line 27
[10:52] <pochu> Admiral_Chicago: on line 25 and 26, why are you closing twice <clue>?
[10:52] <pochu> Sorry, 26 and 27
[10:52] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks
[10:52] <Admiral_Chicago> that may be it
[10:52] <coNP> emacs & nxml-mode did its best
[10:53] <pochu> coNP: lol, I didn't see it :)
[10:53] <Admiral_Chicago> pochu coNP: my eyes aren't so sharp this late at night
[10:54] <coNP> Admiral_Chicago: you can always trust in the European timezones
[10:54] <pochu> :)
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> hehe I'll rememberthat
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #120361 in Fedora "The SATA, IDE, SMBus controllers don't work on ATI/AMD SB700" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120361
[11:08] <Admiral_Chicago> what?
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> i see...tehere isn't a Fedora package
[11:13] <ccm> fedora uses launchpad?
[11:19] <seb128> ccm: no, but you can open a fedora task to track a bug on their bugzilla for example
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #120363 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager should support smartcard based certificate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120363
[11:36] <ubotu> New bug: #120364 in lvm2 (main) "lvm doesn't document -m option" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120364
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #120365 in Ubuntu "CUPS hangs on large job queue" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120365
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #120368 in mplayerplug-in (multiverse) "Merge mplayerplug-in-3.40 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120368
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #120369 in Ubuntu "can't get desktop effects to work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120369
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #120367 in libuser (universe) "python-libuser actually depends on libuser-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120367
[12:00] <owh> coNP: How is that patch coming along?
[12:00] <coNP> I am not sure I did the right thing
[12:00] <owh> coNP: What do you mean?
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #120370 in pidgin (main) "Temporary Authentication Failure in my jabber messanger" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120370
[12:02] <owh> coNP: I'm off to feed my face, owh==onno-itmaze==onno@itmaze.com.au.
[12:03] <coNP> okay
[12:03] <owh> coNP: What TZ are you in?
[12:03] <coNP> CEST = GMT+2
[12:04] <owh> coNP: Feel free to email me.
[12:04] <coNP> okay I try to fix it
[12:04] <coNP> but cannot promise for now
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #120371 in revelation (universe) "AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'replace'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120371
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #120372 in Ubuntu "DVD/RW drive on laptop not recognized in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120372
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #120373 in xerces-j (universe) "Merge xerces-j-1.4.4 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120373
[12:17] <pochu> Anybody using kubuntu can check Bug 115341? I can't reproduce it in Gnome.
[12:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115341 in amule "aMule tray icon is not transparent" [Low,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115341
[12:17] <pochu> Look at the last comment. It has some hints (maybe a way to reproduce it).
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #120374 in python-defaults (main) "Python "newlist" error from mailman install 6.0.6: ValueError: bad marshal data" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120374
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #120375 in mdadm (main) "cannot boot raid1 with only one disk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120375
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #120377 in Ubuntu "[feature request]  Kickstart should be LVM aware" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120377
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #120378 in mdadm (main) "raid1 with sata is slow (speed of a single disc)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120378
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #120379 in apt-proxy (universe) "Merge apt-proxy-1.9.36-1 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120379
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #120380 in schroedinger (universe) "Sync schroedinger 0.6.1-1 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120380
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #120381 in gnome-btdownload (main) "Sync gnome-btdownload 0.0.28-1 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120381
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #120382 in Ubuntu "python2.4-dev depends on stdio.h provider" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120382
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #120383 in Ubuntu "no mail sent" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120383
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #120384 in Ubuntu "grafics rendering slow, until activate and deactivate compiz" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120384
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #120385 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "Please merge meta-gnome2 1:2.18.2 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120385
[01:57] <seb128> DktrKranz: no need to open "please merge" bugs, we have http://merges.ubuntu.com doing automatic lists
[01:58] <DktrKranz> seb128, I'm on it
[01:58] <DktrKranz> i'm checking debdiff before submitting it
[01:58] <seb128> ?
[01:58] <seb128> ah
[01:58] <seb128> so the title or description should be updated
[01:59] <seb128> no mention "please merge" like if that was a request, but rather ".... merge"
[01:59] <DktrKranz> no more "please" ?
[01:59] <seb128> or mention to the description you are working on it
[01:59] <DktrKranz> I'll do, thanks :)
[02:00] <seb128> thank *you* for working on it ;)
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #120387 in fuse (main) "Encrypted USB disk is not automounted anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120387
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #120389 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "(feisty) cdrom missing since 2.6.20-16 on 82801BA IDE U100 (ICH2) Intel chipset" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120389
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #120390 in libept (universe) "sync libept 0.5.3 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120390
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #120392 in evolution (main) "CAnnot delete Calendars in Evolution 2.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120392
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #120394 in kde4-style-qtcurve (universe) "new upstream version + license fix (debdiff included)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120394
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #120396 in human-icon-theme (main) "sync 0.18-1 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120396
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #120398 in maxemumtvguide (universe) "debian directory files should no be +x" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120398
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #120399 in nautilus (main) "creating hidden folder in nautilus file is renamed but still shown as "untitled folder" until refresh..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120399
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #120401 in Ubuntu "no internet connection, no ip e100" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120401
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #120402 in tomboy (main) "ctrl+x closes the window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120402
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #120403 in Ubuntu "no log in screen--mouse stays as a wait cursor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120403
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #120405 in debian-installer (main) "nuwan" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120405
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #120406 in ttf-dejavu (main) "The DejaVu Condensed fonts are not available for selection from the KDE fonts settings panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120406
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #120407 in console-data (universe) "Merge console-data-1.02-1 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120407
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #120409 in Ubuntu "No sound on Toshiba A100 satellite with feisty fawn" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120409
[03:35] <crimsun> ugh.
[03:36] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: ping
[03:36] <ubotu> New bug: #120400 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice executes code from rtf documents" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120400
[03:39] <bdmurray>  Hobbsee: early morning
[03:40] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: heya.  so you dont want to discuss libdvdread3 yet?
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #120410 in Ubuntu "Fiesty freezes when I have a limited internet connection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120410
[03:44] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: We can try
[03:44] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: the install-css.sh script, which is now even executable - why dont we run that in the preinst?
[03:44] <Hobbsee> rather than leaving it as a separate script, which people have to use locate to find?
[03:44] <bdmurray> I don't think it is legal in every country.
[03:45] <Hobbsee> is libdvdread3?
[03:46] <bdmurray> As I understand it yes
[03:48] <bdmurray> libdvdread wrapper for reading the dvd, libdvdcss does the decryption
[03:49] <Hobbsee> that's..what i suspected.  fair enough
[03:51] <bdmurray> what about having the readme show up some how?
[03:52] <Hobbsee> with a debconf thinig, or something.  *shrugs*
[03:53] <Hobbsee> there's support for that now
[03:53] <Hobbsee> "do you want to install this?  it's not legal in some countries"
[03:54] <crimsun> you could always take the flashplugin-nonfree stance, which is to state very explicitly in the Description that if you install it, you know its ramifications
[03:55] <Hobbsee> which no one reads.  but it's there, to avoid the legal red tape
[03:55] <Hobbsee> which raises an interesting question if it's installed as a dep of something else...
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #120411 in libview (universe) "backport libview 0.6.0 for feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120411
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #120413 in hal (main) "fdi for Samsung yp-k3 digital audio player" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120413
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #120414 in goffice (main) "libgoffice and libgoffice-gtk are the same" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120414
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #120416 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  Sunflow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120416
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #120420 in Ubuntu "Tilde not working on iMac in UK (Feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120420
[05:32] <bddebian> Boo
[05:33] <ogra> bee
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #120423 in bip (universe) "Please merge bip (Universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120423
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #120424 in Ubuntu "text installation crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120424
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #120426 in Ubuntu "EATA driver does not load after install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120426
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #120427 in kdebase (main) "[Gutsy]  Konqueror ldconfig errors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120427
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #120428 in gnome-utils (main) "Gnome error, slow to boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120428
[06:48] <the_dark_lord> hello
[06:49] <the_dark_lord> i've joined Launchpad to help ubuntu with bugs
[06:49] <the_dark_lord> i'm still an ultra-newbie
[06:49] <the_dark_lord> can anyone help?
[06:50] <pochu> Sure :)
[06:50] <the_dark_lord> thanks :)
[06:50] <pochu> Please ask whatever you want.
[06:50] <the_dark_lord> well, for starters. what do i do?
[06:51] <the_dark_lord> and do you need to learn any programming languages?
[06:51] <pochu> You can start triaging every kind of bugs, but I suggest you to start with an application that you know or like.
[06:51] <pochu> No, for bug triage you don't need to be a programmer :)
[06:51] <the_dark_lord> okay, can you recommend me one?
[06:51] <pochu> I'm not, for example ;)
[06:51] <the_dark_lord> i'm  a programmer, i do Ruby and Java
[06:51] <the_dark_lord> oh
[06:51] <pochu> (I'm learning :)
[06:51] <the_dark_lord> :) you'll do well
[06:52] <the_dark_lord> which one are you learning now?
[06:52] <pochu> Then any Java application is a good start.
[06:52] <pochu> C and Python :)
[06:52] <the_dark_lord> nah, i don't like Java
[06:52] <pochu> So we are compatibles ;)
[06:52] <the_dark_lord> :D
[06:52] <the_dark_lord> i was forced to learn it at school
[06:52] <the_dark_lord> that always sucks
[06:52] <pochu> But you can start with any other application. Are you using Xchat?
[06:52] <the_dark_lord> na, GAIM
[06:53] <pochu> Then you can start with gaim bugs, for example :)
[06:53] <the_dark_lord> maybe i can help with firefox or ubuntu in general?
[06:53] <the_dark_lord> ah
[06:53] <pochu> Hmm, Pidgin, right? ;)
[06:53] <pochu> Sure
[06:53] <the_dark_lord> nah, pidgin isn't out yet for 64 bit guys
[06:53] <pochu> You can triage all Ubuntu bugs :)
[06:53] <the_dark_lord> well, i prefer ubuntu to begin with :)
[06:53] <the_dark_lord> isn't launchpad meant only for ubuntu?
[06:54] <pochu> Yeah, but Ubuntu has applications, and we track those application bugs here :)
[06:54] <the_dark_lord> oh
[06:54] <pochu> And then forward them upstream when appropiate
[06:54] <pochu> Or reject them, or fix them...
[06:54] <the_dark_lord> thanks for taking the trouble to help me
[06:54] <the_dark_lord> i'm still new to this
[06:54] <pochu> Sure :)
[06:54] <the_dark_lord> much appreciated :)
[06:55] <the_dark_lord> be right back
[06:55] <the_dark_lord> one sec
[06:55] <pochu> Just think that Ubuntu is a lot of applications together, so every Ubuntu bugs is likely to be an application bug ;)
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #120429 in Ubuntu "dist-upgrade xubuntu to fiesty from dapper hoses panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120429
[06:56] <the_dark_lord>  back
[06:56] <the_dark_lord> ah
[06:56] <pochu> the_dark_lord: Oh, by the way, ubotu splits here every new reported bugs, so you can click on the hyperlink and triage them :)
[06:56] <the_dark_lord> got that
[06:56] <the_dark_lord> now, can you recommend me a bug on launchpad?
[06:56] <crimsun> what in the world is 120429 yapping about?
[06:57] <crimsun> does he mean edgy or feisty?
[06:57] <the_dark_lord> hi crimsun
[06:57] <crimsun> I love how the summary says one thing, and the description, another
[06:58] <pochu> hehe
[06:58] <pochu> crimsun: Are you on it?
[06:59] <the_dark_lord> pochu: i'm looking at feisty bugs now
[06:59] <pochu> Cool :)
[06:59] <crimsun> pochu: sure
[06:59] <the_dark_lord> by triaging you mean fix the bug, right?
[07:00] <pochu> the_dark_lord: We also use tags to mark bugs which fits into a category, such as needs-packaging, for package request, bitesize, for easy tasks, packaging, when it's a packaging mistake...
[07:00] <the_dark_lord> okay...
[07:01] <pochu> the_dark_lord: Not neccesary. Think that a lot of bug triagers aren't developers, and aren't going to fix bugs. So triage is also marking bugs as duplicates when appropiate, or setting the importance, confirming bugs...
[07:01] <pochu> 'Bug work' :)
[07:01] <the_dark_lord> ah :)
[07:01] <the_dark_lord> let's take a bug in launchpad, if i want to fix it, how can i?
[07:03] <pochu> If you mean fixing it in the source code, you can download it (e.g. with 'apt-get source <application>') and then fix it and make a patch.
[07:03] <the_dark_lord> oh
[07:03] <the_dark_lord> is it recommended for beginners ?
[07:03] <pochu> But you should think that since you're using Feisty, some bugs might have already been fixed in Gutsy :)
[07:04] <pochu> Depends, if you know the programming language or how to fix it...
[07:04] <the_dark_lord> oh
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #120430 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus login to ssh silently fails when remote fingerprint is changed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120430
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[07:07] <the_dark_lord> what's that supposed to mean?
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[07:10] <the_dark_lord> is the Ubuntu BugSquad deactivated?
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #120432 in Ubuntu "Quickcam messenger & Communicate driver not present" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120432
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #120433 in libpam-unix2 (universe) "libpam-unix2 broken in gutsy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120433
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #120434 in Ubuntu "Ricoh R5U870 Webcam Driver are not included in Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120434
[07:11] <the_dark_lord>  is the Ubuntu BugSquad deactivated?
[07:13] <pochu> the_dark_lord: It's not, but it's purpose it's not to be a bug contact.
[07:14] <the_dark_lord> oh
[07:15] <pochu> Feel free to join it :-)
[07:15] <pochu> It's for Bug Fighthers ;)
[07:15] <the_dark_lord> i joined :D
[07:15] <the_dark_lord> though i'm new :)
[07:16] <pochu> :)
[07:16] <pochu> Welcome :)
[07:16] <pochu> slomo: pingaling :) I wonder whether gtk 2.11.3 has fixed your liferea icon problem :)
[07:17] <the_dark_lord> thank you!!!!
[07:17] <slomo> pochu: mostly, yes :)
[07:17] <slomo> pochu: it's still a bit blurry but otherwise fine... i guess that stock icon is meant to be used in dialogs on buttons in a much smaller size
[07:17] <the_dark_lord> hey
[07:18] <the_dark_lord> how do i see the bugs in the BugSquad?
[07:22] <pochu> slomo: cool :)
[07:22] <the_dark_lord> got that
[07:22] <the_dark_lord> can someone say what to do in this bug for me
[07:22] <the_dark_lord> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-volume-manager/+bug/107668
[07:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 107668 in gnome-volume-manager "Setting an invalid mount point can make a removeable media unaccessible" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[07:22] <ubotu> New bug: #120435 in Ubuntu "SGS Thomson Microelectronics fingerprint reader is not detected/installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120435
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #120436 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  pyrenamer" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120436
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #120437 in Ubuntu "No hda entries in /dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120437
[07:44] <the_dark_lord> anybody here?
[07:44] <Hobbsee> half
[07:47] <bryyce> heya the_dark_lord
[07:47] <pochu> I am :)
[07:58] <the_dark_lord> hey
[07:59] <gnomefreak> crimsun: you might not want to go too deep with dana... since feisty devel the person has had problems and 95% of time its user inflicted
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #120438 in openoffice.org (main) "Open office crashes with multiple windows open after paste from firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120438
[08:01] <gnomefreak> finalbeta: your java bug (dont remmber bug #) install sun-java6-plugin/or jre but the version of java that comes with ubuntu is not set up with/for javaws you need the full package for that, just like you do for java support in firefox/ or any other browser
[08:02] <finalbeta> gnomefreak: If I manually point to /usr/bin/javaws it works.
[08:03] <gnomefreak> update-alternatives does that for you if you install the full java suite
[08:04] <finalbeta> Ah, yeah.I see I have my /usr/java/javaws pointed to my jdk.
[08:05] <gnomefreak> do you have bug # handy
[08:08] <finalbeta> Bug 119175
[08:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119175 in firefox "jnlp support in Firefox" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119175
[08:10] <finalbeta> I guess I have to hope for opensourcing of java to make jnlp files supported by default. On windows people are told they need java, it even auto upgrades to the latest version if needed. Here users are left clewless, which is bad for me as a java dev.
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #120439 in ubiquity (main) "ubiquity crashed with IndexError in child()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120439
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #120440 in Ubuntu "Please sync gtk2-engines-murrine from debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120440
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #120441 in murrine (universe) "[gutsy]  Please remove murrine from the archive" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120441
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #120443 in banshee (universe) "Banshee is only aware of old ID3v1 tags" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120443
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #120445 in firestarter (universe) "Firestarter firewall continuously crashes no matter which desktop or screen it's on." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120445
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #120454 in dpkg (main) "dpkg-buildpackage: user can't set location for .deb creation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120454
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #120456 in Ubuntu "Cannot install, uninstall, update. Help PLZZ" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120456
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #120457 in kde-guidance (main) "Support for battery recharge thresholds" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120457
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #120459 in less (main) "lesspipe relies on $SHELL to tell which shell it's running from" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120459
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #120461 in gcj-4.1 (main) "gcj uninitialized string diagnostic on server dist-upgrade step on move from Feisty to Gutsy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120461
[11:36] <ubotu> New bug: #120462 in openoffice.org (main) "Open Office 2.2.0-lubuntu3 Crashes when opening MS Office files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120462
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #120463 in Ubuntu "System Freezes every other minute" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120463
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #120464 in torcs (universe) "Torcs Segfaults on Launch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120464
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #120465 in Ubuntu "System lockup when moving mouse after launching a program" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120465
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #120466 in firefox (main) "Firefox opens right-click menu of page and bookmarks simultaneously." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120466
[11:59] <calc> bug 54784
[11:59] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 54784 in openoffice.org ""Save in different format" warning: usability improvement" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/54784
[11:59] <calc> should this be marked wishlist or just rejected?