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mok0Can I start with a question?02:06
lionelOk, so let's start MOTU Q/A session!02:07
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lionelI hope there are some MOTU arround:)02:07
lionelmok0: please do !02:07
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illovaehello02:08
mok0I am wandering about the name of a library package. Lintian wants it to end in $major.$minor02:08
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mok0but many places in the docs and in practice only $major is appended02:08
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mok0It should not be necessary to include $minor in the name since a change in that does not mean a change in API02:10
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mok0Am I making myself clear??02:11
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lionelmok0: yes, sorry02:11
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lionelI am not a library packaging expert, I have always used on $major in my libs. Could you pastebin the warning please?02:12
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mok0I renamed my package to suit lintian, so I can't quickly regenerate the lintian messag02:12
mok0e02:13
mok0But now the name of my library is ugly:02:13
mok0libwulf2.5.0 is the package name02:13
mok0and with version it becomes libwulf2.5.0_2.5.0 :-)02:13
mok0I originally had libwulf202:14
lionelarf, yes, not nice :)02:14
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mok0But I had to bow to our lintian overlord :-)02:14
lionelmok0: I'am sorry for my lack on knowledgy on this aspect, I would advice your or to uplaod to REVU and get it reviewed by a more experienced MOTU who will give you advices, or send a mail on the MOTU mentors ML02:15
mok0OK, I could do that02:15
mok0Could be a bug in lintian :-)02:17
mok0In fact, linda disagrees with lintian on that point, too02:17
mok0and it also disagrees with this:02:18
mok0http://plan99.net/~mike/writing-shared-libraries.html02:18
mok0where is says: "The minor version is not reflected in the soname."02:19
lionelmok0: yes, I agree. All the libraries only reflect major (for exemple gtk)02:20
lionelAre there any other question for this session of MOTU Q/A?02:22
mok0Can we leave class, then? ;-)02:27
lionel:)02:27
lionelI'm still arround, so If anybody have a question feel free to ask02:28
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lionelit's free, and all questions are welcome02:28
lionelevent "what's a MOTU" :)02:28
porthoseyea what's the secret to using po-debconf02:28
lionelwhat do you mean by "secret"?02:29
porthoseI tried to use it in my package (following the man page) and it just won't work for me when I do debconf-updatepo it laughs at me02:30
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lionelporthose: do you have a precise error?02:32
porthoseno let me try the process again will post on ubuntu-motu so class can end.02:34
mok0I have a question02:34
lionelmok0: you again?:)02:35
lionelmok0: please, ask your question :)02:35
mok0What is the standard place to put pyton modules? I am used to putting stuff in /usr/lib/pythonx.x/site-packages but when python is upgraded it gets buried02:35
lioneloh yes, you should not put any more packages in directories02:36
lionelyou should now used or python-central or python-support for this02:36
mok0Errr python-central?02:36
lionelall is explained in the New Python Policy on Debian Wiki :02:36
lionelhttp://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy02:36
mok0Great thx02:37
lionelyou're welcome02:37
mok0What about the situation where an application provides a python interface?02:37
mok0(of course I can read the reference)02:37
mok0Ah, I see, there are different dirs under /usr/lib/python-support, I guess thats the place?02:38
lionelyes02:39
mok0Very nifty02:39
lionelbut python-support automagically put the files at the right place02:39
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mok0OK, great02:39
lionelYou do not need any more package for python 2.4, python 2.502:40
lionelit done on the fly02:40
mok0Amazing02:40
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fatsheepdoes anyone know when the next classes are going to be held here?04:32
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dholbachfatsheep: we'll decide on that in tomorrow's MOTU meeting04:35
dholbachI will suggest in two weeks same time04:35
dholbachbut let's see what we will decide04:36
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fatsheepok thanks04:47
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dholbachanytime04:48
mok0fatsheep: keep a watchful eye on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU04:50
lioneldholbach: do you plan to send a reminder for tomorrow meeting?04:51
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dholbachlionel: yes, adding to todo list04:53
dholbachthanks lionel04:53
fernandohey all04:53
lioneldholbach: A mail from me may have less impact, but I can do that if your TODO is tooooooooo long :)04:54
dholbachlionel: no no, that's fine - I'm just about to have a meeting, that's why I added it to the list04:55
dholbachlionel: I'll take care of it04:55
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dholbach:-)04:55
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