[02:06] <mok0> Can I start with a question?
[02:07] <lionel> Ok, so let's start MOTU Q/A session!
[02:07] <lionel> I hope there are some MOTU arround:)
[02:07] <lionel> mok0: please do !
[02:08] <illovae> hello
[02:08] <mok0> I am wandering about the name of a library package. Lintian wants it to end in $major.$minor
[02:08] <mok0> but many places in the docs and in practice only $major is appended
[02:10] <mok0> It should not be necessary to include $minor in the name since a change in that does not mean a change in API
[02:11] <mok0> Am I making myself clear??
[02:11] <lionel> mok0: yes, sorry
[02:12] <lionel> I am not a library packaging expert, I have always used on $major in my libs. Could you pastebin the warning please?
[02:12] <mok0> I renamed my package to suit lintian, so I can't quickly regenerate the lintian messag
[02:13] <mok0> e
[02:13] <mok0> But now the name of my library is ugly:
[02:13] <mok0> libwulf2.5.0 is the package name
[02:13] <mok0> and with version it becomes libwulf2.5.0_2.5.0 :-)
[02:14] <mok0> I originally had libwulf2
[02:14] <lionel> arf, yes, not nice :)
[02:14] <mok0> But I had to bow to our lintian overlord :-)
[02:15] <lionel> mok0: I'am sorry for my lack on knowledgy on this aspect, I would advice your or to uplaod to REVU and get it reviewed by a more experienced MOTU who will give you advices, or send a mail on the MOTU mentors ML
[02:15] <mok0> OK, I could do that
[02:17] <mok0> Could be a bug in lintian :-)
[02:17] <mok0> In fact, linda disagrees with lintian on that point, too
[02:18] <mok0> and it also disagrees with this:
[02:18] <mok0> http://plan99.net/~mike/writing-shared-libraries.html
[02:19] <mok0> where is says: "The minor version is not reflected in the soname."
[02:20] <lionel> mok0: yes, I agree. All the libraries only reflect major (for exemple gtk)
[02:22] <lionel> Are there any other question for this session of MOTU Q/A?
[02:27] <mok0> Can we leave class, then? ;-)
[02:27] <lionel> :)
[02:28] <lionel> I'm still arround, so If anybody have a question feel free to ask
[02:28] <lionel> it's free, and all questions are welcome
[02:28] <lionel> event "what's a MOTU" :)
[02:28] <porthose> yea what's the secret to using po-debconf
[02:29] <lionel> what do you mean by "secret"?
[02:30] <porthose> I tried to use it in my package (following the man page) and it just won't work for me when I do debconf-updatepo it laughs at me
[02:32] <lionel> porthose: do you have a precise error?
[02:34] <porthose> no let me try the process again will post on ubuntu-motu so class can end.
[02:34] <mok0> I have a question
[02:35] <lionel> mok0: you again?:)
[02:35] <lionel> mok0: please, ask your question :)
[02:35] <mok0> What is the standard place to put pyton modules? I am used to putting stuff in /usr/lib/pythonx.x/site-packages but when python is upgraded it gets buried
[02:36] <lionel> oh yes, you should not put any more packages in directories
[02:36] <lionel> you should now used or python-central or python-support for this
[02:36] <mok0> Errr python-central?
[02:36] <lionel> all is explained in the New Python Policy on Debian Wiki :
[02:36] <lionel> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy
[02:37] <mok0> Great thx
[02:37] <lionel> you're welcome
[02:37] <mok0> What about the situation where an application provides a python interface?
[02:37] <mok0> (of course I can read the reference)
[02:38] <mok0> Ah, I see, there are different dirs under /usr/lib/python-support, I guess thats the place?
[02:39] <lionel> yes
[02:39] <mok0> Very nifty
[02:39] <lionel> but python-support automagically put the files at the right place
[02:39] <mok0> OK, great
[02:40] <lionel> You do not need any more package for python 2.4, python 2.5
[02:40] <lionel> it done on the fly
[02:40] <mok0> Amazing
[04:32] <fatsheep> does anyone know when the next classes are going to be held here?
[04:35] <dholbach> fatsheep: we'll decide on that in tomorrow's MOTU meeting
[04:35] <dholbach> I will suggest in two weeks same time
[04:36] <dholbach> but let's see what we will decide
[04:47] <fatsheep> ok thanks
[04:48] <dholbach> anytime
[04:50] <mok0> fatsheep: keep a watchful eye on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[04:51] <lionel> dholbach: do you plan to send a reminder for tomorrow meeting?
[04:53] <dholbach> lionel: yes, adding to todo list
[04:53] <dholbach> thanks lionel
[04:53] <fernando> hey all
[04:54] <lionel> dholbach: A mail from me may have less impact, but I can do that if your TODO is tooooooooo long :)
[04:55] <dholbach> lionel: no no, that's fine - I'm just about to have a meeting, that's why I added it to the list
[04:55] <dholbach> lionel: I'll take care of it
[04:55] <dholbach> :-)