=== DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === crdlb_ [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d42911.wlks.losch.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-180-104.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === realniko [n=realniko@dyn-91-163-5-254.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === _Crusher_ [n=You@ppp182-235.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === briancron [n=brian@c-76-111-26-81.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jmantra is now known as jman_ === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jman_ is now known as jmantra === hybrid [n=x@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442c0.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === waloo [n=waloo@ip-195.net-82-216-248.rev.numericable.fr] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Quitte"] === jmantra [n=justin@c-71-60-68-165.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jmantra [n=justin@c-71-60-68-165.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === croppa [n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === HarKoT [n=tony@bpb01-1-88-162-5-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jenda [n=jenda@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.jenda] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === macd [n=d@cl-116.atl-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === astraw [n=astraw@cpe-72-134-32-79.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === gpocentek [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === HarKoT [n=tony@bpb01-1-88-162-5-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C1A48C.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hedix [i=usr18353@c1.edrana.lt] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jenda [n=jenda@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.jenda] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === macconline [n=macconli@190.37.62.104] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === realniko [n=realniko@dyn-91-163-29-208.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === realniko [n=realniko@dyn-91-163-216-230.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp85-241.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ranf [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-182-166.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ranf [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-182-166.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Keneo_ [n=jens@86-39-0-14.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === _Crusher_ [n=You@ppp182-235.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === lionel [n=lionel@ip-211.net-81-220-127.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === mok0 [n=mok@ghost.imsb.au.dk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === pochu [n=emilio@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:06] Can I start with a question? [02:07] Ok, so let's start MOTU Q/A session! === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:07] I hope there are some MOTU arround:) [02:07] mok0: please do ! === etank [n=etank@ubuntu/member/etank] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === illovae [n=illovae@unaffiliated/illovae] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:08] hello [02:08] I am wandering about the name of a library package. Lintian wants it to end in $major.$minor === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:08] but many places in the docs and in practice only $major is appended === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Quitte"] [02:10] It should not be necessary to include $minor in the name since a change in that does not mean a change in API === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:11] Am I making myself clear?? === porthose [n=chatzill@72.24.69.50] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:11] mok0: yes, sorry === DreamThief [n=mathias@unaffiliated/dreamthief] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === dkmatt [n=matt@mry91-1-82-227-22-15.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:12] I am not a library packaging expert, I have always used on $major in my libs. Could you pastebin the warning please? === dkmatt [n=matt@mry91-1-82-227-22-15.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Leaving"] [02:12] I renamed my package to suit lintian, so I can't quickly regenerate the lintian messag [02:13] e [02:13] But now the name of my library is ugly: [02:13] libwulf2.5.0 is the package name [02:13] and with version it becomes libwulf2.5.0_2.5.0 :-) [02:14] I originally had libwulf2 [02:14] arf, yes, not nice :) === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442c0.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:14] But I had to bow to our lintian overlord :-) [02:15] mok0: I'am sorry for my lack on knowledgy on this aspect, I would advice your or to uplaod to REVU and get it reviewed by a more experienced MOTU who will give you advices, or send a mail on the MOTU mentors ML [02:15] OK, I could do that [02:17] Could be a bug in lintian :-) [02:17] In fact, linda disagrees with lintian on that point, too [02:18] and it also disagrees with this: [02:18] http://plan99.net/~mike/writing-shared-libraries.html [02:19] where is says: "The minor version is not reflected in the soname." [02:20] mok0: yes, I agree. All the libraries only reflect major (for exemple gtk) [02:22] Are there any other question for this session of MOTU Q/A? [02:27] Can we leave class, then? ;-) [02:27] :) [02:28] I'm still arround, so If anybody have a question feel free to ask === HarKoT [n=tony@bpb01-1-88-162-5-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:28] it's free, and all questions are welcome [02:28] event "what's a MOTU" :) [02:28] yea what's the secret to using po-debconf [02:29] what do you mean by "secret"? [02:30] I tried to use it in my package (following the man page) and it just won't work for me when I do debconf-updatepo it laughs at me === bonii [n=bonii@unaffiliated/bonii] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4428e.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:32] porthose: do you have a precise error? [02:34] no let me try the process again will post on ubuntu-motu so class can end. [02:34] I have a question [02:35] mok0: you again?:) [02:35] mok0: please, ask your question :) [02:35] What is the standard place to put pyton modules? I am used to putting stuff in /usr/lib/pythonx.x/site-packages but when python is upgraded it gets buried [02:36] oh yes, you should not put any more packages in directories [02:36] you should now used or python-central or python-support for this [02:36] Errr python-central? [02:36] all is explained in the New Python Policy on Debian Wiki : [02:36] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy [02:37] Great thx [02:37] you're welcome [02:37] What about the situation where an application provides a python interface? [02:37] (of course I can read the reference) [02:38] Ah, I see, there are different dirs under /usr/lib/python-support, I guess thats the place? [02:39] yes [02:39] Very nifty [02:39] but python-support automagically put the files at the right place === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:39] OK, great [02:40] You do not need any more package for python 2.4, python 2.5 [02:40] it done on the fly [02:40] Amazing === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-180-104.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-180-104.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jenda [n=jenda@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.jenda] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jenda [n=jenda@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.jenda] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jenda_ [n=jenda@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.jenda] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === HarKoT [n=tony@bpb01-1-88-162-5-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jenda [n=jenda@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.jenda] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jenda [n=jenda@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.jenda] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === fatsheep [n=fatsheep@74-133-190-166.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === fatsheep [n=fatsheep@74-133-190-166.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === hybrid [n=x@72.171.255.233] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ranf_ [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-098-093.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === fatsheep [n=fatsheep@74-133-190-166.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:32] does anyone know when the next classes are going to be held here? === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] [04:35] fatsheep: we'll decide on that in tomorrow's MOTU meeting [04:35] I will suggest in two weeks same time [04:36] but let's see what we will decide === LjL [n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:47] ok thanks === fatsheep [n=fatsheep@74-133-190-166.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] [04:48] anytime [04:50] fatsheep: keep a watchful eye on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU [04:51] dholbach: do you plan to send a reminder for tomorrow meeting? === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:53] lionel: yes, adding to todo list [04:53] thanks lionel [04:53] hey all [04:54] dholbach: A mail from me may have less impact, but I can do that if your TODO is tooooooooo long :) [04:55] lionel: no no, that's fine - I'm just about to have a meeting, that's why I added it to the list [04:55] lionel: I'll take care of it === dholbach hugs lionel === lionel hugs dholbach [04:55] :-) === silwol [n=silwol@teacheradsl241.eduhi.at] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === silwol [n=silwol@teacheradsl241.eduhi.at] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === Aximili [n=Aximili0@cpe-66-25-40-56.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@72.171.255.233] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jenda [n=jenda@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.jenda] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Ex-Chat"] === n2diy [n=darryl@66.212.42.2] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44138.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Konversation] === mok0 [n=mok@ghost.imsb.au.dk] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === realniko [n=realniko@dyn-91-163-216-230.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === silwol [n=silwol@teacheradsl241.eduhi.at] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === silwol [n=silwol@teacheradsl241.eduhi.at] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === silwol [n=silwol@teacheradsl241.eduhi.at] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === darich [n=trickyki@212-139-49-144.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === allee [n=ach@lapex-mcallee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === SWAT [n=SWAT@ubuntu/member/swat] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === macconline [n=macconli@190.37.62.104] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@72.171.255.233] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44138.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@72.171.255.233] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-classroom.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Topic for #ubuntu-classroom: Ubuntu Open Week info: Information and Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek | Ubuntu classroom transcripts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts === Topic (#ubuntu-classroom): set by nalioth at Fri Jun 8 21:28:23 2007 === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === realniko [n=realniko@dyn-91-168-58-210.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === porthose [n=chatzill@72.24.69.50] has left #ubuntu-classroom []