[04:04] <jona_> Hi
[02:58] <DarkSun88> Hi all
[04:46] <calc> also notice the channel itself says 16:00 (oops) ;)
[04:47] <Riddell> calc: that comes from friday, nixternal is changing it now
[04:47] <Riddell> err
[04:47] <Riddell> calc: that comes from fridge, nixternal is changing it now
[04:47] <nixternal> it should refresh here shortly
[04:48] <calc> ok
[04:55] <Keybuk> in reality, the times of the meeting are 16:00 Europe/London and 21:00 Europe/London
[04:55] <Keybuk> the UTC gets adjusted depending on the time of year
[04:55] <Keybuk> if it could be entered into a calendar like that, it would work
[04:57] <pitti> #include <hello.h>
[04:59] <bryyce> heya all
[04:59] <asac> HELLO_MAIN(asac, waves)
[04:59] <bdmurray> here
[05:00] <heno> hello
[05:00] <evand> hi
[05:00] <dendrobates> hey all
[05:00] <mathiaz> hello
[05:01] <dholbach> ({#'sprintf, "Hello %s!\n", ({#'call_other, ({#'this_player}), "query_name" }) .... or something :)
[05:01] <Keybuk> sorry about the timezone confusion, everybody
[05:01] <ogra> :)
[05:01] <heno> erm, yeah sorry :-/
[05:02] <BenC> cjwatson: no sign of amit on either irc server...rtg still out of town I suspect, and kyle is en route to google so can't be on
[05:02] <fabbione> db_get random_greeting
[05:02] <fabbione> echo $RET
[05:02] <fabbione> hellp
[05:02] <Keybuk> no sign of mvo?
[05:02] <BenC> you do need help if you quote debconf syntax for psuedo code :)
[05:02] <dholbach> Keybuk: he said he'd be here - I'll call him (maybe still having his birthday cake or something)
[05:03] <dholbach> he might still have thought it'd be one hour later
[05:03] <fabbione> BenC: that would actually work module a template and sourcing debconf library :P
[05:03] <fabbione> BenC: but yes.. i agreee..
[05:03] <Keybuk> yes, I noticed that
[05:03] <Keybuk> I almost added a new section to the agenda
[05:03] <keescook> dholbach: scheme? lisp?
[05:03] <Keybuk> talking of which
[05:03] <dholbach> Keybuk: line is busy - I'll retry
[05:04] <Keybuk> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelTeamMeeting20070614
[05:04] <dholbach> keescook: LPC (I hacked in a MUD ages ago... :-))
[05:05] <cjwatson> sorry I'm late; traffic sucked today
[05:05] <keescook> dholbach: aaah, heh.
[05:06] <calc> heh still showing UTC times
[05:06] <Hobbsee> cjwatson: hah.  you're close enough that you can :)
[05:07] <Keybuk> so, we have new starters today
[05:07] <Keybuk> Amit, who most of you met at UDS, has joined the kernel team (but hasn't turned up to this meeting <g>)
[05:07] <Keybuk> calc: has joined us to maintain OpenOffice.org
[05:08] <Riddell> hi calc!
[05:08] <shawarma> Hi, calc! Welcome to the team!
[05:08] <calc> hello everyone :)
[05:08] <mathiaz> hi calc
[05:08] <asac> welcome calc!
[05:08] <Keybuk> and dendrobates has joined as the Ubuntu Server Technical Lead
[05:08] <seb128> welcome calc
[05:08] <shawarma> dendrobates: hi, boss! Welcome to the team. :)
[05:08] <evand> welcome calc and dendrobates!
[05:09] <mathiaz> welcome dendrobates
[05:09] <asac> hi dendrobates
[05:09] <dholbach> welcome dendrobates and calc :-)
[05:09] <pitti> calc: all the best for OO.o!
[05:09] <seb128> Hi dendrobates
[05:09] <calc> pitti: thx
[05:09] <Keybuk> for those keeping score, that brings the distro team up to 24 people
[05:09] <Keybuk> agoliveira: that's ok, we weren't expecting you anyway
[05:10] <Keybuk> agoliveira: those at conferences are excused if they can't make it ;)
[05:10] <agoliveira> Thanks but I'm actually just wating in the lobby of the hotel so it made sense ;)
[05:10] <Keybuk> 28 if you include mdz, cjwatson, heno and myself
[05:11] <Riddell> I think you four count :)
[05:11] <Keybuk> we still have quite a few more positions open
[05:11] <Keybuk> so expect to grow by at least another 8 before the year is out
[05:12] <iwj> We are *exploding*.
[05:12] <iwj> I'm looking forward to meeting all you new guys in London.
[05:12] <dholbach> yeah, me too :)
[05:12] <Keybuk> Claire has reminded me to nag you all about booking your travel arrangements to London
[05:13] <Keybuk> and once booked, please make sure you put them onto the wiki
[05:13] <Keybuk> and if you have any particular room-mate preference, note that too
[05:14] <cjwatson> we have a very short agenda this week; any more items for it?
[05:14] <cjwatson> (not that I am complaining)
[05:14] <agoliveira> anyone who does not snore and do not smoke is fine to me ;_
[05:14] <ogra> agoliveira, not me then :)
[05:14] <Riddell> no smoking in England by then
[05:14] <cjwatson> agoliveira: smoking indoors will be illegal at that point
[05:14] <BenC> agoliveira: very limiting choices :)
[05:14] <fabbione> i snore like a tractor on steroids
[05:14] <fabbione> BenC: can confirm that
[05:14] <ogra> cjwatson, even outside smokers smell :)
[05:15] <ogra> for people who care at least
[05:15] <cjwatson> iwj: we need to play the distro team game in London; it's been some time
[05:15] <cjwatson> and it's a lot harder now
[05:15] <keescook> cjwatson: "the" distro team game?
[05:15] <fabbione> keescook: you are too new for that :)
[05:16] <cjwatson> that's "name all the members of the distro team. no notes allowed."
[05:16] <fabbione> cjwatson: we did it in Oslo you and I...
[05:16] <keescook> hah
[05:16] <ogra> ouch
[05:16] <shawarma> Ha!
[05:16] <fabbione> cjwatson: including history :)
[05:16] <mvo> hi
[05:16] <iwj> Maybe we should have a field `snores (yes/no)' on the roommate list, to be filled in by the previous roommate :-).
[05:16] <cjwatson> ok, agenda
[05:16] <pitti> ugh, that really becomes tricky now
[05:16] <cjwatson> (keescook) VMWare WS6 license needed
[05:16] <dholbach> hi mvo
[05:16] <bryyce> hehe
[05:16] <ogra> iwj, i usually add it ...
[05:16] <cjwatson> fabbione was chasing that up
[05:16] <cjwatson> fabbione: no word, I gather?
[05:16] <ogra> but then i usually add my data late :)
[05:16] <Keybuk> before we move onto kees agenda
[05:16] <fabbione> keescook: i mailed mdy 3 weeks ago..
[05:16] <Keybuk> one other quick announcement
[05:16] <fabbione> no news yet
[05:16] <Keybuk> HAPPY BIRTHDAY MVO!
[05:16] <fabbione> ehhe
[05:16] <ogra> MVO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:16] <keescook> \o/
[05:16] <bryyce> congrats mvo
[05:17] <iwj> mvo: Happy birthday!
[05:17] <asac> mvo: happy birthday!!
[05:17] <shawarma> Happy birthday, dude!
[05:17] <evand> happy birthday
[05:17] <ogra> haha
[05:17] <fabbione> cjwatson: nope.. i will try bitching^Wasking again tomorrow
[05:17] <mathiaz> happy birthday !
[05:17] <keescook> haha
[05:17] <bdmurray> happy birthday mvo
[05:17] <Hobbsee> hahaha
[05:17] <ogra> MVO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:17] <cjwatson> fabbione: ok, please mail distro-team if you hear anything useful
[05:17] <dholbach> haha :)
[05:17] <Hobbsee> someone paste the backscroll, if mvo_'s actually here...
[05:17] <seb128> mvo_: your ISP is still loving you? ;)
[05:17] <fabbione> cjwatson: will do as soon as i have info
[05:17] <cjwatson> release readiness update
[05:17] <keescook> cjwatson: I didn't intend it to be an agenda item, actually.  BenC, fabbione and mdy are all on it, afaik.  :)
[05:18] <cjwatson> pitti: do you have a convenient link for tribe-2 bugs?
[05:18] <cjwatson> keescook: *nod*
[05:18] <Keybuk> I'll try and mail jp directly
[05:18] <Keybuk> I may have more luck
[05:18] <BenC> cjwatson: I got the licenses this morning from JP, mdy will add them to the wiki
[05:18] <cjwatson> aha, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/tribe-2
[05:18] <mvo_> thanks everybody for the happy birthday wishes!
[05:18] <keescook> BenC: oh, very cool!
[05:18] <pitti> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/tribe-2
[05:18] <shawarma> for now we're supposed to use vmware 5.X, is that it? Becuase I'm too stupid to find a link to that anywhere on VMWare's homepage..
[05:19] <pitti> it would be nice if everyone could take a look and check whether he can grab one of the unassigned ones
[05:19] <fabbione> BenC: mail distro team directly? pointless to bounce trough me agian
[05:19] <keescook> shawarma: I wasn't able to get 5.x working on 2.6.22 so I switched to ws6
[05:19] <BenC> once they are on the wiki, I'll post to distro-team
[05:19] <calc> query cjwatson
[05:19] <Keybuk> BenC: thanks
[05:19] <fabbione> BenC: ok thanks
[05:19] <agoliveira> Can I get one of those too? I'm doing the embedded tests on vmware as well.
[05:19] <calc> Hobbsee: heh
[05:19] <shawarma> keescook: Didn't BenC have a fix for that?
[05:20] <pitti> Hobbsee: so you'll chase people for the copious KDE milestone bugs?
[05:20] <BenC> I have a fix for 2.6.22+ws6, but nothing with 5.x
[05:20] <agoliveira> BenC: Thanks.
[05:20] <BenC> any-any isn't working either
[05:20] <Hobbsee> any kde bugs listed on that tribe 2 list, i'm the contact for, i believe - so if anyone feels like fixing them, it might be worth checking with me if someone's already working on tehm, or has expressed interest in them
[05:20] <shawarma> BenC: Ah, right. My bad.
[05:20] <Hobbsee> pitti: typing, typing.  i'm a slow typer today
[05:20] <cjwatson> Riddell: with regard to that kubuntu-desktop recommends bug
[05:21] <cjwatson> Riddell: the general plan we had for Ubuntu was to identify the stuff that really makes up the important bits of an Ubuntu desktop - stuff like the panel, gnome-session, critical things
[05:21] <pitti> BenC: there are quite a lot of kernel bugs on the tribe-2 list; anything that is particularly hard and probably won't make it for tribe-2?
[05:21] <Hobbsee> cjwatson: right.
[05:21] <cjwatson> but make many of the others Recommends so that they can be swapped out
[05:21] <BenC> pitti: I'll review them today
[05:21] <cjwatson> they will still be installed by default
[05:21] <pitti> BenC: cheers
[05:21] <Hobbsee> cjwatson: that was my view, but Riddell didnt really agree with me.
[05:21] <cjwatson> it's one of the things that comes up in reviews quite a lot - people get confused when they have to remove the metapackages for stuff they should be able to replace
[05:22] <BenC> bug #109320 is actually against evms
[05:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 109320 in evms "evms blocks access to disk devices" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109320
[05:22] <iwj> metapackages> If only we had proper implementation of Replaces ...
[05:22] <BenC> Keybuk: did you do that patch and upload yet?
[05:22] <Keybuk> BenC: not yet, see my update ealier
[05:22] <Hobbsee> pitti: i'll be chasing people, yes.
[05:22] <Keybuk> mostly waiting from upstream for comment
[05:22] <iwj> I mean, we could do away with transitional packages.
[05:22] <Keybuk> for comment from upstream
[05:22] <Keybuk> speak like yodo, do I
[05:22] <Riddell> cjwatson: if that's the policy that's fine with me, although there seems to be a higher threshold for critial things than you desribe above
[05:23] <cjwatson> iwj: transitional yes, but I don't think that helps with -desktop
[05:23] <BenC> pitti: they all look doable for tribe-2
[05:23] <iwj> cjwatson: No, indeed.
[05:23] <cjwatson> Riddell: I'm relatively easy about the precise place where the line is drawn
[05:23] <keescook> *head explodey* etoomanyconversations
[05:23] <iwj> cjwatson: Oh, I see what you meant now.  Yes, I agree.
[05:23] <cjwatson> I've taken 120107
[05:24] <cjwatson> Hobbsee: 108870 should be fix-released?
[05:24] <seb128> bug #108870
[05:24] <Hobbsee> bug 108870
[05:24] <bdmurray> Riddell: could you look at bug 119408? it has not been confirmed yet
[05:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 108870 in kubuntu-default-settings "[Feisty regression]  install two or more debian files with right click on them and install doesn't work" [Low,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108870
[05:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119408 in kde-guidance "[gutsy]  kde-guidance power manager causes screen to turn off" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119408
[05:25] <cjwatson> pitti: I'm at debconf next week, so I might have to postpone bug 118744 to tribe-3
[05:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118744 in gfxboot "no gfxboot in gutsy with new syslinux" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118744
[05:25] <Riddell> bdmurray: 108870 should go away with gdebi-kde
[05:25] <Hobbsee> cjwatson: yes.  was going to double check it actually *fixed* the bug before i did that, though
[05:25] <pitti> cjwatson: WFM, the current workaround works fine
[05:25] <pitti> cjwatson: it's mainly a reminder to clean it up at some time before beta
[05:25] <Riddell> bdmurray: 119408 I've heard some people say, and the other guidance developers have looked at it, but I'm not sure if we found a reason it affects some people
[05:26] <cjwatson> pitti: yes
[05:26] <bdmurray> Riddell: okay, if you need some testing done let me know
[05:27] <cjwatson> BenC: linux-backports-modules-2.6.22?
[05:27] <BenC> cjwatson: oof, yeah, need to get that out
[05:27] <cjwatson> should be trivial
[05:27] <BenC> empty upload, Just Do It
[05:28] <BenC> get it out with next kernel upload
[05:28] <fabbione> BenC: i need my toys with the next upload please...
[05:28] <cjwatson> ok, I don't think there's much else to discuss here, then
[05:28] <cjwatson> any other business?
[05:28] <BenC> fabbione: I got something you can play with :P
[05:28] <fabbione> BenC: cows?
[05:28] <pitti> I did some anastacia/MIR/cruft cleanup today, will do some more in the future
[05:28] <bdmurray> Hug Day schedule
[05:28] <BenC> fabbione: yes, gfs1/gfs2 will be ready next upload
[05:28] <pitti> s/future/next couple of days/
[05:28] <fabbione> BenC: cool thanks
[05:28] <BenC> fabbione: they sometimes fetch pine cones
[05:29] <fabbione> ROFL
[05:29] <cjwatson> bdmurray: how did the last one go? I didn't see a whole lot in #ubuntu-devel, but perhaps there was more in #ubuntu-bugs
[05:29] <seb128> pitti: I'll give you an hand on that, I did some source NEW, syncs and backports cleaning this week
[05:29] <bryyce> yeah I think most of the action was in #ubuntu-bugs
[05:29] <bdmurray> cjwatson: it went well bryce and kees did a lot of work
[05:29] <Hobbsee> cjwatson: i got the amarok upstream guys helping to triage the amarok bugs :D
[05:29] <pitti> seb128: you rock
[05:29] <cjwatson> Hobbsee: excellent
[05:29] <seb128> pitti: you too ;)
[05:29] <bdmurray> yeah, that was great too
[05:29] <Hobbsee> yep
[05:29] <cjwatson> bdmurray: what would you like the schedule to be?
[05:30] <cjwatson> or are we talking about the developer assignments?
[05:30] <seb128> there was quite some activity in #ubuntu-bugs yesterday
[05:30] <dholbach> seb128 did a lot too and I managed to get a bunch of bugs tagged as 'packaging', 'needs-packaging', 'bitesize' and 'upgrade'
[05:30] <bdmurray> Next one should be the 27th I think so I'm wondering who will be available then
[05:30] <cjwatson> is the rota on the wiki somewhere?
[05:31] <bdmurray> The one after that is a bit odd as 2 weeks would be the distro sprint
[05:31] <fabbione> bdmurray: that might be more fun
[05:31] <fabbione> with all of us in the same room..
[05:31] <bdmurray> cjwatson: do you mean the Hug Day schedule or the volunteers?
[05:31] <cjwatson> bdmurray: the latter
[05:31] <fabbione> we just need to figure who cleans the blood from the walls
[05:31] <bdmurray> fabbione: my concern there would be it would less talking on IRC
[05:32] <bdmurray> cjwatson: no, that isn't in the wiki
[05:32] <fabbione> bdmurray: you would be surprised how 10 nerds in a room spend more time talking on IRC than face to face :)
[05:32] <dholbach> bdmurray: I think everybody of us is geeky enough to talk on IRC even if we are sitting in the same room ;-)
[05:32] <calc> so someone needs to bring duct tape ;)
[05:33] <heno> I don't think there is a rota; we should set one up
[05:33] <cjwatson> I think that would help, so that we can see who's gone before
[05:33] <cjwatson> heno: will you take care of that?
[05:33] <bdmurray> The week before the sprint would be closer to the Tribe 2 release though.
[05:34] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: i'd agree with you @ the less talking on irc - it becomes very much a canonical-only event that wya - or the feeling of it.
[05:35] <heno> sure, anyone esp. interested in joining the next bug day? ...
[05:35] <cjwatson> ACTION: heno to set up skeleton bug day developer rota and mail to distro-team
[05:35] <cjwatson> heno: let's get it up in a form that people can add to it, and we can hassle folks later
[05:35] <heno> right
[05:35] <cjwatson> bdmurray: I'd be happy with the week before the sprint
[05:35] <cjwatson> if you're happy to have bug days in two consecutive weeks
[05:36] <bdmurray> I think that makes more sense than waiting until after Tribe 3
[05:36] <cjwatson> amitk: welcome, although we're just finishing up ;-)
[05:37] <bdmurray> However, there is a US holiday on July 4th which is a Wednesday
[05:37] <amitk> cjwatson: sorry, I lost track of time
[05:37] <agoliveira> Sorry guys, got go. Boss is calling! Bye!
[05:37] <calc> bdmurray: thu should be fine at least for the US
[05:38] <calc> bdmurray: but yea you probably won't find many people in the US online on july 4th ;)
[05:38] <bdmurray> so 6/27 and 7/5 then?
[05:38] <heno> sounds good
[05:38] <bdmurray> and then 7/25
[05:38] <bdmurray> which is after Tribe 3
[05:39] <cjwatson> that works
[05:39] <cjwatson> we should be settling down pretty well with feature development by then
[05:39] <bryyce> one thing that might be worthwhile would be to define a goal, like close 300 bugs (1% of total)
[05:40] <Hobbsee> there was an aim yesterday of dropping it to 30K bugs.  that seemed useful
[05:40] <cjwatson> recent bug days seem to have been trying to tackle particular sets of problems, so goals in line with those would be good
[05:40] <calc> looks like ~ 70 new bugs since the bug day yesterday
[05:40] <heno> right, and other parts of triage than just cosing bugs are important as well
[05:40] <seb128> Hobbsee: did it success to go under the 30k line? ;)
[05:40] <calc> seb128: hit around 30070
[05:42] <calc> http://people.ubuntu-in.org/~carthik/bugstats/
[05:42] <Hobbsee> seb128: i think it was down to 30080.  what calc said.
[05:42] <keescook> I love that our goal is no longer "make bugs reduce in number" but has moved on to "get below some number".  nice work.  :)
[05:42] <Hobbsee> sigh.  and then it went back up again.
[05:42] <heno> so when are we turning apport back on for gutsy?
[05:42] <Hobbsee> what i want to know is where the heck all these bugs are.
[05:42] <seb128> keescook: let's enjoy the week where apport is not running :p
[05:42] <bdmurray> I think a fair number of the new ones were sync requests
[05:42] <keescook> seb128: heheh
[05:42] <heno> that will bring the exponential growth back ...
[05:42] <pitti> I really want to wait until we get the private bug filing
[05:42] <calc> Hobbsee: a huge chunk of bugs are on oo.o
[05:42] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[05:42] <pitti> the fix for that is in review
[05:42] <pitti> also, dup detection is online now, so I hope it won't get that bad
[05:42] <seb128> pitti: there is no hurry
[05:42] <asac> pitti: ETA?
[05:43] <zul> Hobbsee: i think there is over 700 kernel bugs as well
[05:43] <pitti> asac: I don't know, next LP rollout I hope
[05:43] <Hobbsee> ah, fair enough
[05:43] <asac> pitti: i would prefer to get firefox crashes on asap
[05:43] <heno> I wonder if there is an optimal time in the cycle to get crash reports?
[05:43] <pitti> asac: right; but we shuold really stop people from exposing their login credentials etc. to the public
[05:43] <cjwatson> heno: right after finishing whatever feature you've just been working on, IME
[05:43] <shawarma> Hobbsee: Yes.
[05:43] <seb128> Hobbsee: yes, for crashers
[05:43] <Hobbsee> right.
[05:44] <pitti> private bugs -> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CrashReporting please
[05:44] <pitti> Hobbsee: ^
[05:44] <asac> pitti: yes ... but we did that for a long time ... so a week or so won't hurt imo :)
[05:44] <calc> hmm i only see 123 bugs on openoffice.org scribblers page but i am pretty sure there are a lot more than that
[05:44] <asac> pitti: but yes, i agree that private is important
[05:44] <iwj> Has the thing been fixed where you get three mails about every crash ?
[05:44] <iwj> It's really only useful to get at most one.
[05:44] <cjwatson> calc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org says 491
[05:44] <iwj> Also, TBH I think it would be better not to regard apport crashes as bugs per se.
[05:44] <cjwatson> 6 on -l10n
[05:45] <dholbach> 4 on -amd64
[05:45] <shawarma> iwj: How do you figure that?
[05:45] <pitti> iwj: indeed; there are some plans, if you are interested, let's talk about it in #devel
[05:45] <Hobbsee> pitti: looks sane.
[05:45] <calc> cjwatson: yea i guess just 123 are assigned to the group or something to that effect
[05:46] <iwj> pitti: OK.
[05:46] <asac> pitti: if you talk about that, summon me please :)
[05:46] <calc> there are slightly over 500 bugs for all the openoffice packages scribblers maintains
[05:46] <pitti> asac: noted
[05:46] <iwj> shawarma: I get about one report a month of a crash or other similar malfunction in dpkg and these nowadays almost invariably turn out to be `user has completely broken computer and pureed filesystem'.
[05:47] <pitti> calc: so, good luck with fixing all of them until tribe-2
[05:47] <calc> pitti: lmao
[05:47] <cjwatson> ok, can the rest of this go to #ubuntu-devel?
[05:47] <bdmurray> calc: relatively speaking it isn't that many though
[05:47] <cjwatson> it sounds like we're done here
[05:47] <iwj> dpkg isn't that huge a memory user.  So extrapolating, I imagine that a fair proportion of crash reports in oo.o and firefox and the like are just bad hardware.
[05:48] <shawarma> iwj: Right, but as a general rule, don't you think an apport generated bug report represents an actual bug?
[05:48] <cjwatson> certainly ubiquity bugs are disproportionately bad hardware
[05:48] <iwj> shawarma: In the case of dpkg clearly the answer is no.
[05:48] <cjwatson> although the ones that aren't are significant
[05:48] <calc> bdmurray: yea only about 1.7%
[05:48] <shawarma> iwj: hence "general rule". :)
[05:48] <bdmurray> so Hobbsee asking about where they all are is a good question
[05:48] <bdmurray> or interesting
[05:48] <iwj> `As a general rule, all X are Y'  `No, here is a big subclass of X which are usually not'.
[05:49] <iwj> What you mean is `As a general rule, most X are Y' which may be true but we don't know.
[05:49] <iwj> Anyway.
[05:49] <calc> bdmurray: is there a way to extract a report of bugs per package to get a top offending list?
[05:49] <iwj> Are we planning to have the team dinner on the Friday night or earlier ?  I'm just thinking about people missing flights, you understand :-).
[05:49] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: i'd like to see a https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs for all bugs in ubuntu, but i havent badgered the #launchpad guys as to how feasible it is, and to get an ETA on it.
[05:49] <iwj> (I mean, for the London sprint.)
[05:49] <cjwatson> Keybuk: do you know? I hadn't heard
[05:49] <shawarma> iwj: I did not know that dpkg bugs were really a big subclass of Ubuntu bugs. I would have expected dpkg to have extraordinarily few bugs reported, actually.
[05:50] <Keybuk> cjwatson: Friday, I understand
[05:50] <Keybuk> I don't care, as long as it's not at Pizza Express
[05:50] <Keybuk> ;)
[05:50] <bdmurray> calc: bugnumbers -p --stats I think
[05:50] <bryyce> mmm pizza
[05:50] <keescook> iwj: I'd love the dinner to be Wed or earlier; I'm only there a half week
[05:50] <bryyce> $ bugnumbers -p --stats
[05:50] <bryyce> Package '--stats' not found.
[05:51] <cjwatson> sprint dinner requests -> distro-team
[05:51] <dholbach> bdmurray:  -p openoffice.org ?
[05:51] <calc> ah bughelper
[05:51] <cjwatson> sounds like we're done, then
[05:51] <cjwatson> adjourned
[05:51] <dendrobates> What exactly would be on a British pizza?
[05:51] <dholbach> thanks
[05:51] <bryyce> cya
[05:51] <mvo> thanks
[05:51] <shawarma> iwj: /win 55
[05:51] <shawarma> whoops
[05:51] <evand> thanks
[05:51] <bdmurray> bryyce: it might be in the bzr tree only
[05:51] <Keybuk> shawarma: /lose 60
[05:51] <Riddell> dendrobates: in Edinburgh, deep fried
[05:51] <dendrobates> ha
[05:51] <bdmurray> dholbach: yeah ./bugnumbers -p openoffice.org --stats
[05:51] <Riddell> hope to see lots of people in Edinburgh next week
[05:51] <shawarma> Keybuk: No fair!
[05:52] <dholbach> bugnumbers love for everybody
[05:52] <cjwatson> dendrobates: smog
[05:52] <mathiaz> thks. bye
[05:52] <keescook> bye all
[05:52] <dendrobates> bye
[05:52] <dholbach> bye mvo
[05:53] <pitti> thanks all