[12:14] shawarma: -directory [12:15] ScottK-laptop: for CVE-2007-2650 CVE-2007-2029 for dapper I can't fix it because it's reported and resolved in 0.90.3 and the code has changed debian has not relased update for sarge's clamav and for CVE-2006-6481 debian added extra functionality and I can't tell what modifications are exactly for that cve just for the Dapper's CVE-2007-1745 I have patched [12:15] The OLE2 parser in Clam AntiVirus (ClamAV) allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (resource consumption) via an OLE2 file with (1) a large property size or (2) a loop in the FAT file block chain that triggers an infinite loop, as demonstrated via a crafted DOC file. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-2650) [12:15] File descriptor leak in the PDF handler in Clam AntiVirus (ClamAV) allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service via a crafted PDF file. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-2029) [12:15] Clam AntiVirus (ClamAV) 0.88.6 allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (stack overflow and application crash) by wrapping many layers of multipart/mixed content around a document, a different vulnerability than CVE-2006-5874 and CVE-2006-6406. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2006-6481) [12:15] The chm_decompress_stream function in libclamav/chmunpack.c in Clam AntiVirus (ClamAV) before 0.90.2 leaks file descriptors, which has unknown impact and attack vectors involving a crafted CHM file, a different vulnerability than CVE-2007-0897. NOTE: some of these details are obtained from third party information. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-1745) [12:16] erm... [12:16] spam [12:16] HAM === Maxo [n=maxolase@76.3.13.172] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:18] geser: linux/wireless.h includes linux/if.h, the problem is a recent change in linux/wireless.h where some includes have been surrounded by an #ifdef __KERNEL__ block in order to "sanitise" the header. if you're interested the change is at http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=baef186519c69b11cf7e48c26e75feb1e6173baa [12:19] leonel: All you can do is what you can do. [12:20] leonel: You've been making good contributions. [12:20] geser: apparently it should be using iwlib.h instead, which I've tried and it built with that but then rt2500-source still doesn't build using module-assistant once it's installed... i'm also wondering if this should be a kernel team thing because feisty's kernel had the rt2500 module in by default (as far as i can see) [12:21] s/feisty's kernel/& package/ === crdlb_ [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tri [n=tri@p57ADCC4E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:23] so yeah, i guess i should paste all that into a bug report now... [12:29] ScottK-laptop: so .. to call it unfinish what's to be done ? [12:29] leonel: We need to figure out how to backport the 0.90 versions to Dapper/Edgy as discussed at the last MOTU meeting. === ScottK-laptop is in the middle of a meeting, so has limited bandwidth for IRC right now. [12:30] ScottK-laptop: ok let's see what can we do in that area [12:45] AndyP: that would be good. I only looked at the build report and saw there a missing IFNAMSIZ === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:51] How do I insert a non-ascii character into a ascii document? (using groff_char) === giskard [n=giskard@62-101-126-218.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] if you have some time to spend, could you please take a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5287 ? [12:53] night all :) === DktrKranz [n=Luca@ubuntu/member/dktrkranz] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Microsoft] === gizmo [n=gizmo@xdsl-84-44-247-136.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fbond [n=fab@pool-71-161-220-43.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fbond [n=fab@pool-71-161-220-43.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] shawarma: I am now. === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:16] I'm packaging a game with only one binary, Should I place the binary directly into /usr/games/ or should it still be located in /usr/share/games// ? === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:20] SlimG: /usr/share/games// [01:21] ScottK-laptop: thanks [01:24] ScottK-laptop: why? If the binary is compiled, it surely shouldn't be under /usr/share/? === adamcollard [n=acollard@91.84.75.27] has joined #ubuntu-motu === radhios [n=radhios@200.122.113.192] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:26] hmmm [01:26] meaning /usr/games/ ? [01:27] not sure why /usr/share/ would be relevant [01:27] The question I was answering was if it should go in a package name subdir and I think it should. [01:28] the ones I have installed don't use such [01:28] crimsun: a lot of games put data files in /usr/share/games//, but I don't see the reason to put executable binary there === ScottK-laptop goes to read the hfs documentation. [01:28] bsdmainutils, patchutils, gnome-games, fortune-mod [01:28] (even if it's arch-independent) [01:28] crimsun: try wesnoth :-) [01:29] I'm speaking of executable binaries, of course [01:29] /usr/share/games/ is trivially useful === chninkel_ [n=yann@alcyone.pleiades.fr.eu.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:31] compiled binaries (arch-dependent) shouldn't be below /usr/share [01:31] right, we're in agreement there [01:32] the binary, say named foo, should be /usr/games/foo [01:34] For usr/share a pacakage specific sub dir is recommended, but not required. HFS is silent on subdir in usr/games. [01:34] FHS, even? [01:34] Yeah. That one. [01:35] I wouldn't suggest a subdirectory under /usr/games. /usr/games is in the PATH, but /usr/games/* isn't. [01:35] Sorry. Trying to do IRC and listen in a meeting at the same time. [01:35] Makes sense. [01:36] okay, seems there is a consensus [01:36] SlimG: you should put your game binary in /usr/games/ [01:38] minghua: thanks for clearing that up for me, I'll remember that [01:41] What's the right way to read /usr/share/doc//copyright ? === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluekuja_ [n=andrea@host145-171.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:54] Meeting's over, see you all later.... === andrea__ [n=andrea@host33-239-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkibras1-ff55c300-121.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml_ [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] if anyone would like to review a new package: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5444 thanks! (by the way, is it annoying for me to keep asking every day, should I just post to the mailing list and shutup?) === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:13] jrib: once per day is absolutely fine in my opinion === jml_ [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.145.74] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueyed [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] [02:35] what is the proper way of using the requestsync script? [02:35] dear thunderbird, grow a reply-to-list button, kthxbai! === bluekuja_ [n=andrea@host221-175.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] nixternal: requestsync === macd [n=d@adsl-157-21-112.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] nixternal: You'll need a deb-src line for , and the DEBEMAIL environment variable set. === macd [n=d@cl-116.atl-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:38] I have DEBEMAIL set already in .bashrc [02:38] how do I add the deb-src line, or where? === nixternal does it the old way [02:38] nixternal: /etc/apt/sources.list [02:38] oh === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === andrea__ [n=andrea@host178-239-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] MOTU: bug 120300 [02:52] Launchpad bug 120300 in kftpgrabber "Please synce kftpgrabber (0.8.1-1) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120300 [02:52] simple sync [02:54] all Ubuntu changes (1 of them) can be dropped as Debian included our patch [02:57] ah i love it when debian does that :) [02:57] me too [02:58] fboudra is cool like that though === javier_galicia [n=Javier@189.130.231.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:17] Where should the .svg Icon mentioned in /usr/share/applications/example.desktop be placed? === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] /usr/share/icons//scalable/apps/, I think [03:21] I am also not sure the part === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] minghua: the only icons dirs on my kubuntu is containing scalable folder is mono, crystalsvg and hicolor, so I guess the hicolor is the one I should use..? [03:28] s/kubuntu is/kubuntu/ [03:30] SlimG: in those situations i usually look at where other packages are putting their similar files (probably not the best way to do it but it's an "if in doubt, go with the flock" solution) [03:30] how do I can know what packages without being installed depend on some lib ? [03:30] leonel: apt-cache show [03:31] or apt-cache rdepends , not sure what you meant [03:32] minghua: I mean I have libclamav2 and I need to know what packages need libclamav2 even if those packages are not installed [03:32] AndyP: As I mentioned, I'll go with the flock and use /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps , sure hope the flock is right :) [03:32] rdpends ? [03:32] leonel: yes, the rdepends one [03:32] thanks it is [03:38] SlimG: "For example, installing a svg icon in $prefix/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps means most desktops will have one icon that works for all sizes." -- http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-theme-spec/icon-theme-spec-latest.html#install_icons [03:38] yay for definitive answers [03:40] AndyP: thanks :) [03:41] what's the difference between .svg and .svgz? is the extra "z" for gzipped svg files? [03:41] SlimG: yup [03:43] AndyP: Should the file inside example.svgz also be named example.svgz ? [03:43] or just .svg ? [03:45] SlimG: you mean the original uncompressed file? .svg [03:48] AndyP: (yes, the original uncompressed) should example.desktop refer to example.svg or example.svgz then? [03:48] SlimG: whichever one you're installing, at a guess :) === bobbob [n=Administ@75-138-106-134.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] hey [03:49] anyone on? === bo [n=opera@60-234-168-92.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bo [n=opera@60-234-168-92.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === bobbob [n=Administ@75-138-106-134.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === concept10 [n=concept1@ppp-70-247-173-239.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aanderse [n=aaron@CPE0015e916db19-CM001225d7436c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.100.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:16] Hey folks. [04:17] hiya TheMuso [04:40] good night folks [04:41] night welshbyte === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-219-120.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-017-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp28-164.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:04] good day MOTUs [05:05] anyone doing xmms2 merge? === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-72-133-223-147.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:12] hey zakame [05:12] yo leonel how goes clamav? [05:14] bad bad there are 2 cve which are for 0.90.X and need to backport to 88.2 and I can't tell what to patch since the code has changed in 0.90 [05:14] I would like to merge my rewrite of stendhal someday. [05:14] have you brought upstream in to help you out? [05:15] no I haven't [05:15] how can that be done ? I'm new here [05:16] lookup clamav's debian/copyright for author info, or lookup their website for contacts [05:22] zakame: great thanks I'll contact them [05:22] zakame: what's for openjdk in ubuntu , do you know any plans for it ? [05:24] leonel: np :) [05:25] np == no plans ? [05:27] leonel: icedtea is packaged for Debian [05:28] so a merge has to be done ? [05:29] http://gnu.wildebeest.org/diary-man-di/?p=37 [05:29] icedtea is a package? heh [05:29] i've tried those debs but can't install on feisty [05:31] jsgotangco: nestea? [05:32] zakame: i like our "local" bottled tea thank you, less sugary [05:32] hmm libfaad isn't in gutsy? [05:34] well got to go .. [05:36] oh, libfaad2-dev in multiverse === LucidFox [n=LucidFox@wikia/Sikon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp4-60.lns4.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === man-di_ [n=mkoch@dynadsl-080-228-202-163.ewetel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:52] heya man-di_ === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-89-136.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apacheLAGger [n=me@N949P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === porthose [n=chatzill@72.24.69.50] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK-laptop [n=kitterma@12.198.1.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK-laptop [n=kitterma@12.198.1.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK2 [n=kitterma@12.198.1.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.140.212.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Acksys [n=acksys@cpe-071-070-081-128.sc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Admiral_Chicago [n=FreddyM@ubuntu/member/admiral-chicago] has joined #ubuntu-motu === morphir_ [n=morphir@217.168.81.9] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:16] Any experienced MOTUs available to answer a newbie MOTU question... === ScottK-laptop dput a NEW package from REVU today (I was the second advocate) and I don't see it anywhere. [07:16] Do I have to dput differently for a NEW package? === jussi01 [n=jussi@cust0920.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442c0.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:21] no. [07:21] which did you upload? [07:22] I have submitted 5 new needs-packaging bugs to Launchpad [07:22] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=needs-packaging&start=300 [07:23] nixternal: libreadonly-perl [07:23] Oops. Wrong issue to point nixternal at. [07:23] crimsun: libreadonly-perl [07:23] heh [07:24] ScottK-laptop: did you receive an upload accept? [07:25] maybe I need DRI enabled for this new Flash plugin beta [07:28] crimsun: I did not. === lengau [n=lengau@c-76-22-213-228.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:28] ScottK-laptop: reupload it [07:28] crimsun: Thanks. [07:28] mm, nope, DRI doesn't do it. [07:28] 9.0.60.120 is definitely broken. Not uploading. [07:28] crimsun: Did I do something wrong or is this just stuff happens sometimes? [07:29] ScottK-laptop: it happens sometimes, though it's not supposed to. [07:29] This was my first NEW upload... [07:29] OK. Thanks. [07:29] make sure you signed it with your usual key, etc. [07:29] ooh new perl module :) [07:30] I did debsign -m and the usual e-mail address just like I would for someone else's merge. [07:30] usually a debuild -S -sa should do [07:30] Not if it's not my name in the changelog because I didn't package it. [07:30] sure you can, just pass the correct -k0xfoo [07:31] yep [07:32] Ah.. That would do it. === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bonii [n=bonii@unaffiliated/bonii] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:36] anyone who feels the urge to fix bug 120319, please realise that the beta version is utterly broken. [07:36] Launchpad bug 120319 in flashplugin-nonfree "[UPDATE] New beta of the flashplayer available" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120319 [07:37] The release notes mention a workaround, but of course it's impossible to apply the workaround, since it crashes the web browser. [07:38] waah [07:38] I'm not even sure how they managed to release it; it's a 100% regression from the final 9.0.31. No sites work at all. [07:39] hmm yet another worse-than-fail? === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:39] it appears to initialise fine, but it never actually does anything [07:40] I see [07:40] For Flash, isn't that a feature? [07:40] hmm what ffmpeg issues are there blocking xmms2? [07:40] bug 84381? [07:40] Launchpad bug 84381 in ffmpeg "[apport] ffmpeg crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84381 === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:03] hmm xmm2 seems to build fine now [08:04] On the buildds? [08:05] no just on my chroot, will check [08:05] jdong: According to LP you all published the python-spf backport for edgy last month - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyspf [08:06] zakame: xmms2 was strange, in that it will build fine everywhere, *aside* from the buildds. [08:07] case in $(hostname -f) ; *ubuntu.com) fail_build_randomly ;; esac [08:07] hello everyone... [08:12] hmm the new DrJekyll version seems to have overhauled its build system [08:12] It moved to cmake, didn't it? [08:12] no more direct scons calls, there's a ./waf script that drives the build [08:15] zakame: waf is derived from scons. [08:16] ah, cool === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:30] waah xmms2 should really get reorganized into several source pkgs [08:31] no wonder why the build fails selectively, its trying to be a God Package... === crevette [n=crevette@man06-2-88-167-44-76.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh_away is now known as \sh === Lure_ [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F770C4.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:47] good morning === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:56] hmm let's see if this new xmms2 builds on the buildds... [08:56] zakame: Good luck. [08:57] You'll need it. [08:57] Heh [09:03] Fujitsu: thanks, wiping my keyboard with it now. :D === icf7 [n=icf7@WL-POOL00-09.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:04] Fujitsu: Any chance you'd take a look at python-scipy. I managed to break it and am unsure how to proceed. I test built python-scipy (0.5.2-9ubuntu1) in my pbuilder before I uploaded it and it built (I'd updated it a few days before). It FTBFS on the buildd's. I updated my pbuilder and it would no longer build for me. === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:05] ScottK-laptop: Sure, I'll have a look. [09:05] I'd really like it if LP allowed subscriptions to packages for getting notification of uploads/FTBFSes/etc. [09:07] Fujitsu: Thanks. Here's the traceback from the FTBFS: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25482/ === Fujitsu compares to previous build logs. === Pumpernickel [n=pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F76167.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === porthose [n=chatzill@72.24.69.50] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:18] I uploaded ampache-3.3.3.2-0ubuntu1 to REVU but discovered it has a serious problem can I get a MOTU to nuke that upload please [09:18] porthose: can't you just re-upload? [09:18] you can do that? [09:19] Fujitsu: I need to get to bed. With luck, this hotel internet connection will stay up. If you have any suggestions on what I can do to fix it, please let me know and I'll work on it (of course if you want to fix it, don't let me get in your way). [09:19] porthose: dput -f [09:19] cool I'll do that thanks [09:19] ScottK-laptop: Sure, I'll probably fix it myself, but maybe not. [09:19] Goodnight. === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@115.Red-88-27-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@115.Red-88-27-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C1A48C.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:59] ooh xmms2 starts building === icf7_ [n=icf7@WL-POOL02-17.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7__ [n=icf7@WL-POOL03-58.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-85-27-113-187.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp4-70.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:23] now depwaits on most arches [10:29] zakame: is it perheps because libfaad2-dev is in multiverse and xmms2 in universe? [10:32] speaking of which, shouldn't we merge the new faad2 from Debian? [10:32] yes, there will be some hellacious package mangling to be done, but it's worth it IMO [10:32] TheMuso: espeak uploaded - just noticed: shouldn't espeak-data be arch: all? [10:34] and if faad2 is in Debian main, we should be able to ask for its promotion to Ubuntu universe [10:34] geser: yep [10:34] it should be in universe [10:34] anyway we're early, so I think its doable :) [10:34] crimsun: I asked slomo about it during the merges for feisty. IIRC ours faad2 is severely patched which makes merging very difficult [10:35] I wonder if there's any specific reason we should retain ours instead of using Debian's === zakame checks out faad2 [10:35] zakame: either move xmms2 to universe or don't build-depend on libfaad2-dev till it moved to universe [10:35] geser: xmms2 is in universe [10:35] *xmms2 to multiverse [10:36] yes [10:38] heavily patched? I see only 5 in debian/patches === geser looks up the mails about it === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:42] just about the big patch is in 09_amd64.diff === Tonio_ [n=tonio@81.185.113.139] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:43] perhaps on the binary pkgs produced may affect this; debian has a different set than ubuntu [10:44] looking at the versions though, I'd say we have a totally different faad2 from debian's [10:45] REVU DAY TODAY [10:45] yoohoo [10:45] oh and Q&A session today [10:45] was anybody at the 0:00 UTC ones? [10:46] oh... I won't be able to be at the 12:00 UTC one [10:46] does anybody feel up to doing it? [10:46] zakame: slomo mailed me that Debian's faad2 has 64bit problems which our doesn't and that every version after ours has a GPL incompatible license which makes the Debian packages useless === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:48] bug #46013 it's a single line fix, if some universe sponsor can be check... :) [10:48] Launchpad bug 46013 in backupninja "mail-command instead of rmail" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46013 [10:48] heno: today is a REVU day, not a Universe HUG DAY afaik [10:48] geser: ah, there we go [10:48] and MOTU Q&A hours at 12:00 UTC [10:49] dholbach: ooops, I've been picking up on rumors :/ [10:49] heno: we'll decide on a new Universe HUG DAY in tomorrow's MOTU meeting [10:49] oh, well. I'll run my own little universe hug day then [10:49] heno: best to check the MOTU Team header - it has al lthe dates [10:49] dholbach: hmm like knuth's all questions answered? :) [10:49] ah, ok === jekil [n=alessand@host185-20-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:50] so it does === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:51] geser: wouldn't xmms2 to multiverse probably surprise users (at least)? [10:52] yes, I would prefer to build xmms2 without libfaad2-dev instead of moving it to multiverse [10:52] I gather there's a better way than to just comment out faad2-relevant packages in debian/control, then. [10:53] probably --without-faad2 in the debian/rules configure options if it uses autofoo magic [10:53] ( and also control ) [10:55] zakame: without testing: remove libfaad2-dev from B-D and delete the xmms2-plugin-faad package from debian/control [10:55] geser: exactly what I'm doing now :) [10:56] fortunately, its just debian/control; no need to edit debian/rules === dholbach takes a look at nautilus-wallpaper === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [11:04] is adam israel around? === cypher1 [n=cypher1@c-68-83-184-230.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach looked at olive === dholbach looks at system-config-samba === highvoltage looks at dholbach [11:10] highvoltage: it's REVU Day === zakame looks at ccbuild [11:11] dholbach: is that until the end of the day? [11:11] it's always a REVU day [11:11] today is a special one :) [11:11] ah :) [11:11] I'm working until 15:00 UTC, I'll get into that brasero package right after that [11:12] maybe I can even get it up for revu today [11:12] highvoltage: it was updated already [11:13] dholbach: ok. I'll ping you a bit later then I can start with another package? [11:13] yes [11:13] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/WIP lists a few [11:13] other than that we have myriads of bugs marked as 'upgrade' 'packaging' 'needs-packaging' and 'bitesize' [11:15] can we agree that we archive uploads that had a comment, but no reply back for more than a month and mail all the people involved? === dholbach starts to make a list === zakame looks at yazpp [11:18] dholbach: was that a question for me? [11:19] highvoltage: I asked everybody in here :) [11:19] ok, just checking :) [11:20] what is the best way to put up a request for having a package updated in gutsy [11:20] MrDumbo: you can file a bug and tag it as 'upgrade' [11:20] I filed a bug, but I might have forgotten the tag [11:20] because it also got deleted... [11:20] deleted? [11:21] to long no confirmation [11:21] dholbach++ [11:21] MrDumbo: did you file a support request? [11:22] might have done it wrong... [11:22] a well going to try it later. [11:24] how do you tag it? [11:25] 021-918-2116 [11:25] ugh, sorry, pasted to wrong window [11:28] grr hate it when bugs are reported at wrong places [11:28] they can't expect me to check all distro's bugtrackers [11:30] https://bugs.launchpad.net/gmpc/+bug/102595 <-- anyway to close that, because it's fixed [11:30] Launchpad bug 102595 in gmpc "adding all tracks from an album should sort by track number" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-a29dca7f7fde3903] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:32] MrDumbo, i marked it as fix released upstream but it shouldent be closed in ubuntu untill its uploaded there [11:32] and you dont have to check all distros bug trackers, LP tracks bugs upstream in your tracker [11:32] just FYI [11:32] no, how can I possible track all the f*** bug trackers [11:32] I don't have time for that [11:33] and as i just said why would you need to ? [11:33] I doubt if launchpad does [11:33] sure it does, thats one of its deatures [11:33] features* [11:33] this bug, I never heard of it, until somewhen sended me a patch (but most of the time it's completely passing me by) [11:33] but even if it dident why would you need to ? [11:34] I want to know about bugs in my programs.. so I can fix them? [11:34] rigth and upstream bug distros file upstream as well as in their trackers , or should just for that very reason === dholbach archived at least 15 packages [11:34] and thats why LP will track your bug tracker [11:34] I _never_ had that. [11:35] dunno about launchpad have to admit that [11:35] but with other distro's.... [11:35] MrDumbo, then i am sorry you have not experinced the joys of opensource [11:35] sorry just a bit of a bad mood.. [11:35] i can see [11:35] i'm just trying to tell you you are a bit offbase :) [11:36] yes things get over looked from time to time but over all you dont have to [11:36] imbrandon: I think it's just a waste, it often happens after months I get pointed in a bug in the gentoo tracker, or on some debian ml... === bersace_ [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:36] anyway, back to why I started.. [11:36] gmpc version in ubuntu is years old. === zakame looks at libpam-cups [11:36] MrDumbo, then do the "right thing" and who ever it is pointing it out to you needs to file it upstream, gentoos tracker is for gentoo specific issues just as debians and ubuntu's [11:37] zakame: I archived it [11:37] zakame: it had no reply for more than a month [11:37] dholbach: ok, gotta update my revu page :D [11:37] ajax-ing revu would be great though :D [11:37] TheMuso: is ardour2 on REVU really necessary? [11:37] anyway, I have to go... [11:38] using bzr for package reviews would be nice [11:38] TheMuso: (given that the new version is in as ardour already) === zakame looks at menareants === jussi01 [n=jussi@cust0920.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:40] now sdlmame === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach highfives zakame [11:45] evening all [11:45] hello dholbach [11:45] heya jussi01 [11:45] yo jussi01 [11:45] thanks dholbach [11:46] hey zakame === jussi01 decides to look for a new progrm to package while he waits... any ideas? [11:47] jussi01: take a look at the bugs tagged as 'needs-packaging' [11:48] And RFP in Debian :) [11:48] dholbach: yeah, will do, just thought someone might have a little something that they didnt have time to do... [11:48] pochu: of course :D [11:48] dholbach: You looked at system-config-samba a bit earlier. I've uploaded a new version with fixed dpatch and explained the libuser1-dev dependency. === zakame looks at emilnes [11:53] dholbach: Thanks for looking at it! === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame looks at sunflow [12:00] dholbach: afaik I archived ardour2 ages ago on revu. [12:00] dholbach: Espeak-data is arch specific, as it needs to be either little or big endian. [12:02] shawarma: ok, will look at it again [12:02] TheMuso: ah ok [12:02] TheMuso: I'll archive it now - it's still there [12:03] dholbach: Done already. [12:03] ok [12:03] I ts popped up again, because someone commented on it. [12:03] /c [12:03] gah [12:03] ok, the page looks better and better [12:03] if you all have some spare minutes, please help out :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:05] salut jsgotangco [12:05] hi [12:06] hmm folks aren't using the debian/changelog effectively === zakame looks at freevo === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-aac1ce9e95c52e7e] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame looks at gconf-cleaner === jussi01 says wow! you guys are really rocking on revu comments today! well done! === zakame looks at olive === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@81.185.113.139] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:29] gah, i hate launch pad... how do you search bugs by tag? [12:34] jussi01: Click the Advanced search link === zakame looks at tablelist === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 asks StevenK where is that? Am I blind? 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[02:53] oh well, I gues i just have to go fix it... [02:54] jussi01: which one? [02:54] mnemosyne Hobbsee [02:54] ahhh [02:54] why? [02:54] licencing? [02:54] some small copyright issue [02:54] yeah [02:55] I've just rejected the mnemosyne upload to gutsy. Some pyqt_ui files [02:55] have work from "Jarno Elonen " who is not mentionned to [02:55] debian/copyright, could you fix that and upload a new revision? [02:56] does that mean, just have to add him to the copyrights? === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@ubuntu/member/darksun88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:57] Hi all [02:58] hello DarkSun88 [03:03] heya jussi01 [03:03] hi zakame === leonel [n=leonel@189.155.112.151] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] hello everyone [03:05] hi leonel [03:05] wha... is it wake up tim in the us or smthing? [03:05] likely, yeah [03:05] in mx is ... [03:05] yo leonel [03:05] hey zakame [03:06] I'm trying to make a debootstrap gutsy in feisty but says I don't have the gutsy script === RainCT [n=RainCT@77.209.5.171] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:07] have you updated/ [03:07] ? [03:07] leonel, anyway when you mark a merge in progress, dont wait 2 weeks to do it [03:07] hi [03:07] (talking about dbmail) [03:08] leonel: update your debootstrap [03:08] bluekuja: ok I'll quit then [03:08] leonel, I've seen it "to do" on mom and I did it [03:08]