=== Riddell hmmms at http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Alternate+Kubuntu+Logo?content=59957 === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [12:19] crimsun: I've found them to be about equal for problems and good points [12:20] should kubuntu-default-settings override config? [12:21] im fairly sure i had changed the default config before today [12:21] Riddell: hmm, loses the basic idea of *Ubuntu logo I think, but duh, what do I know (; [12:21] gnomefreak: IIRC should not [12:21] Setting up kubuntu-default-settings (1:7.10-5) ... [12:21] Installing new version of config file /etc/default/kdm.d/20_kubuntu_default_settings ... [12:22] im assuming that is the master config file [12:23] gnomefreak: it doesn't change kdm if you've already set the kdm theme manually [12:23] oh ok [12:32] kubuntu.org working for everyone? === nixternal checks [12:33] omg what happened to it? [12:33] ya, it works [12:33] for me it does [12:33] groovy [12:33] works here too === vprints [n=laur@213-35-238-145-dsl.end.estpak.ee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:38] Works for me too. === oslo is now known as oslo_pasl === ScottK-laptop [n=kitterma@166.129.148.49] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [01:08] RIDDELL!!!!!!! [01:08] you just flooded akregator! :D === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Riddell throws nixternal a life jacket [01:17] hum [01:17] http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/423-Mary-Jo-Foley-embarrasses-herself-once-more....html === Tm_T loves good comparisons like this one [01:23] hahah [01:23] is that the one where she compares leopard to vista? [01:23] nixternal: did you know that your Kmenu looks like... vista! [01:23] jjesse: yup [01:24] anyway, good night kids -> [01:24] night Tm_T [01:24] my kmenu does not look like Vista's! [01:27] http://www.nixternal.com/tmp/MY_KMENU_DOES_NOT_LOOK_LIKE_VISTA.png [01:33] Riddell: if I dist upgrade to gutsy, should I remove the KDE 3.5.7 stuff and the KOffice 1.6.3 stuff from sources.list first? [01:38] no [01:38] well, doesn't matter [01:40] OK, I think I am just going to dist-upgrade my laptop and get it over with :) === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@p54974AFA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.107.222] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@N921P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@72-255-23-237.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-124.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:46] man i'm bored tonght [02:46] i have stuff to do but i don't want to do anything === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-124.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:09] and now we are running Gutsy! [03:10] I must say, kwhatever it is called that does the volume popup is much nicer [03:10] however, my volume is a 0, the speakers are still blasted [03:10] yay [03:10] on your laptop or in avm? [03:13] laptop [03:13] sound is severly broken [03:13] argh!!! [03:13] hmmm i think i broke my gutsy vm :( [03:13] mute doesn't even work [03:14] so that means I can't use my damn computer in school now [03:14] they will know what I am doing [03:14] thats a bummer [03:14] and it is super loud [03:14] discovery channel has some dinosaur thingy on [03:15] AHHH! [03:15] gotta crank the PCM down to about 1 === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@72-255-23-237.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [03:19] sorry locked computer up [03:19] did you fixe your sound [03:20] nope === steveire [n=stephen@unaffiliated/steveire] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:21] nixternal: have you tried changing your master channel? [03:22] gutsy is the first release that muting has worked for me... [03:22] how? I have the Intel sound, not much you can do [03:22] Gutsy is the only release that "muting" hasn't worked for me :) [03:26] hmm i tend to be locking up my laptop [03:28] no locking up here, but screamin' speakers for me [03:31] my wife just called and said "so how attached are you to the location of the funiture in the study" [03:31] in other words, "i hope you don't mind but i moved all the funiture" [03:31] haha, you should have said "very" [03:31] now you have to get to work! [03:31] i am working, i'm in columbus ohio [03:31] she's at home [03:31] ahhh [03:32] ya, that means your computer is now in the garage [03:32] probally === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:39] kwwii's buddy viper is online ;) [03:39] imbrandon: he is your buddy too right? :) === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:05] manchicken: looks like people like system settings for main http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.core [04:05] Riddell: isn't it past your bedtime :) [04:05] aye, well, I was finishing watching 24 [04:06] system settigns needs a document [04:06] nixternal: aren't you working on that? [04:06] hmm, it would need to link to the individual modules [04:07] right now if you go to help -> system settings you get "there is no documentation available for /systemsettings/index.html [04:11] yes, but any document should really be just a bunch of links to modules documents === Riddell snoozer === Riddell snoozes [04:11] nixternal: read scroll on system settings discussion === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A7223B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === besonen_mobile_ [n=besonen_@71-220-233-253.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-58-124.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ScottK [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@72-255-23-237.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.120.127] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180074083.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-124.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-124.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === huahua [n=huahua@221.201.55.86] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44269.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.107.222] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:32] hi all [07:32] hi Hobbsee [07:32] :) [07:33] want to visit me at work tonight? [07:33] hehe :) === Jucato flys over to Oz [07:33] good :) [07:33] howde Hobbsee :) === Hobbsee notes that work will be...interesting...tonight [07:34] heya stdin [07:34] I just got in to the konversation svn :) [07:34] Hobbsee: how come? [07:36] Jucato: because 2 people who are supposed to come in arent - the one who was originally supposted to be there, and then her replacement [07:36] lol [07:36] which means i'll be stuck in one place the entire night, yet have to do a whole lot of things that requires me *not* being in that place. [07:36] that's... um... [07:36] and it's a friday night, so we'll probably get theives and such [07:36] O.o [07:36] yeah. tha'ts special :) [07:37] hopefully not... [07:37] or pretend ones. suspicious people and such [07:37] idiot schoolkids and teh like [07:37] get your long pointy stick ready.... presuming you have one IRL [07:37] hehe [07:41] hm... kss will be needing *a lot* of work if it is to replace kcontrol in kde4... [07:49] Jucato: yeah...i really dont want to have $5K of stock that i'm dealing with, out on the floor, on my own... [07:50] maybe only $3K. [07:50] all in little boxes, etc, so really easy to pick up and steal [07:50] eek.... :( === Hobbsee wonders if it would be her fault if it went missing [07:50] ie, if it got stolen [07:51] i dont think so, as they're violating the safe work agreement stuff by not having another person on, who can actually stay on the kiosk and such. [07:51] well, if it got stolen, I doubt it. but if it just went suddenly missing... [07:51] i was meaning missing as in stolen. but yeah === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse__ [n=jjesse@72-255-23-237.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:30] anyone know what happened with dbus-launch? === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-037.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@81.185.113.139] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:47] yo === marseillai [n=mars@ubuntu/member/marseillai] has joined #kubuntu-devel === novato_br [n=noper@200.252.123.1] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:56] hi [09:56] How can I get KNetStats source code? [09:58] novato_br: apt-get source knetstats [09:58] no sudo needed [09:59] stdin, is it possible code attach from knetstats to gnome ? [10:00] novato_br: umm, it depends on kdelibs, so probably not, tho you can run it on gnome [10:01] (as long as you have the libs installed) [10:01] no, i only wanna not to run [10:01] i wanna use the code on new program to gnome [10:02] the knetstats is perfect, because it has a lot function that I want [10:02] it would require a compleat rewrite, so I doubt it [10:03] so so [10:03] it uses kdelibs4c2a and kicker, so it's not so portable [10:03] on linux can I make software by handle like windows ( api ) ? === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:04] there is the X11 api, that works on all desktop environments with X [10:04] cool [10:05] ok [10:05] thx, stdin [10:05] np :) [10:05] I'm attempting to package networkmanager 0.6.5 [10:05] do you make packs? [10:07] not normally, or at least not for public release === hunger_t is now known as hunger [10:10] yep, Tonio_ i want to make a network status [10:11] i have a network status program, but it doesn't show me everthing that I want know [10:17] hi, dudes [10:18] do you need know about hardware to compile the kernel ? [10:20] not really, tho it helps [10:20] novato_br: It helps. But usually I only compile kernels for embedded hardware nowadays. [10:21] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild <- for help [10:21] sorry, i didn't understand about "embedded" [10:21] novato_br: Desktop systems are usually well supported out of the box. [10:24] ok [10:24] hunger, I have a friend that he got one problem [10:25] he wants to compile on kernel and he doesn't how to know one memory reader card [10:25] novato_br: Write a bugreport... tends to get fixed faster that way than with me mucking around the kernel config:-) [10:26] ok === Riddell [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aplg [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:41] hey Riddell :) [10:41] rebonjour [10:59] Riddell: I attempt to package network-manager 0.6.5 to test the new knm comming along [10:59] Riddell: might take a bit of time as there are lots of gnome/ubuntu patches === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:07] yes, make sure you run that by keybuk too [11:07] but he does seem to have abandoned it for now === novato_br [n=noper@200.252.123.1] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Saindo"] === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@72-255-23-237.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:34] Riddell: well packaging isn't very different, except the splitted applet [11:34] Riddell: there is a big patch from fabione, which has to eventually be rewritten, has the interface parser has been completly rewritten [11:34] Riddell: I'll ping him once the packages are ready [11:34] Riddell: I looked at d3lphin, very nice [11:35] Riddell: the problem is that patching dolphin to this will be complicated, lots of the code is rewritten, buildsystem too [11:35] Riddell: and renaming the app will create us problems..... I don't know what to do to be honnest.... [11:36] Riddell: I'd say drop dolphin from the repos and package d3lphin is easier, waiting for kde4 to come along [11:36] Riddell: your opinon ? [11:38] Tonio_: I'd say package d3lphin as dolphin [11:39] Riddell: but don't rename the application right ? [11:39] dolphin upstream doesn't want to have d3lphin feedback in fact, that's why the new maintainer renamed it [11:40] d3lphin is an evil name [11:40] Riddell: true.... [11:40] okay so let's package, rename and document the naming change in the man [11:41] and debian/control [11:42] Riddell: once again we have the trash in the system applet... ;) [11:42] Riddell: I have to remove is with every kde update hehe [11:42] ? [11:42] overlapping? [11:42] Riddell: /usr/share/apps/systemview/trash.desktop [11:42] we shouldn't install that one, it is documented in kubuntu_debian_changes [11:43] debian does is that's something we change in kubuntu forever [11:44] Riddell: talking about dolphin, it would be nice to change the componentchooser in kcontrol/systemsettings, to allow an easy change from dolphin to konqueror [11:44] Riddell: who can do that ? :) [11:45] anyone you ask nicely? [11:49] I've talked to the d3lphin dude at Linuxtag [11:49] He says he did d3lphin because dolphin for kde3 was a closed case [11:49] No fight that went on there (just a bit of a strange development process) [11:59] the question is how upset the dolphin author would be if we put d3lphin in the dolphin package [12:15] Riddell: that's my problem ;) [12:15] Riddell: that's an ethic issue, not a technical one..... I already have a dolphin 0.9 package, but I'm a bit affraid uploding this :) [12:16] can i see it? [12:16] Riddell: sure, just a minute === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD950906B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Oculus [n=oculus@pD9508838.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:37] Riddell: I can make a sync request while it's still in Debian NEW? [12:37] someone in -motu said I'd have to wait... [12:38] ryanakca: if there's an apt-get source you can [12:38] just make sure to include it in the request [12:38] fdoving: kio-umountwrapper accepted for universe [12:39] Tonio_: what was the problem with postinst scipt? [12:39] Riddell: uploading dolphin on my webserver [12:39] Riddell: syntax error to remove the diverts [12:39] Riddell: ok [12:39] Riddell: s/pakcage/package [12:39] I missed that when I reviewed it [12:41] Riddell: http://tonio.homelinux.org/temp === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:55] Riddell: is the kwwii's website design final? Also, the question of content comes up - is it going to be a page about kubuntu news (uninteresting for newcomers) or rather an introduction page (more about kubuntu, outlining key features and such) ? [12:56] Tonio_: that's the same thing [12:56] mhb: nope, although I happen to like it [12:56] mhb: more the latter [12:56] Riddell: I hoped so [12:57] Riddell: thanks [12:57] mhb: of course SoC remains your priotiry :) === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:58] Riddell: yeah, I can't do much with it... just wondered. I also wonder if we're still able to get Flavio on it [12:59] Riddell: not sure whether he is disappointed about being left out of the design part or he just wanted his own design to win [12:59] I don't remember his design [01:00] he posted a link in his last mail, very mozill-ish [01:01] oh yes [01:01] therefore not very useful to us [01:01] didn't appeal to me [01:02] Riddell: the same thing ???? [01:02] kc = ck ? === jpetso [n=jpetso@chello062178070021.24.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:07] ok, got it now [01:07] opens with two bookmark toolsbars on each side, bit daft that [01:07] but you changed the binary name from d3lphin to dolphin, I wouldn't do that [01:07] just change the name in the .desktop file [01:08] and add to the debian/control file that it's the d3lphin fork [01:09] your source is different from the upstream one [01:09] where did you get it from? [01:09] dolphin-0.9/src/dolphin.desktop should besrc/d3lphin.desktop === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:11] Riddell: yeah I did a complete replacement in all the sources [01:11] erk [01:11] Riddell: was a test, just a test ;) [01:12] don't do that, just patch the .desktop file and probably the app name in main.cpp [01:12] Riddell: so you would just rename the package, and the desktop file ? [01:12] yeah, no need to change upstream more than superficially [01:12] hmm, he's gone and removed peter penz from the copyright notice === Riddell out [01:14] Riddell: okay I'll patch that way [01:14] Riddell: at the moment I'm packaging network-manager-gnome applet [01:14] shame on me :/ === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD9508374.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:17] didn't seb say he'd do that? [01:17] oh wait, I'm out [01:17] ciao [01:18] Riddell: he didn't :) === besonen_mobile__ [n=besonen_@71-220-233-253.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:35] Tonio_: Don't waste your time on that 4-toed junk;-) [01:36] lol [01:53] Goodness JR, those shots you posted are sexy. [01:54] What'd you do to get rid of the ugly frames/ [01:56] I thought it was interesting that he points out the OSX similarities for such a simple program. [01:56] Didn't YaST have a similar interface to system settings way back when? I'm pretty sure it did circa 7 or 8. [01:58] The settings:/ argument is thus far the best argument against this that I see so far. [02:07] manchicken_: the frames were a simple replacement of a line which said set FrameSunken to NoFrame [02:08] manchicken_: it is based on OS X, the annoying thing is system settings had search before OS X added almost identicle search [02:08] yast is sufficiently different [02:08] settings:/ is horrible, that's a daft argument [02:10] manchicken_: which shots are you talking about ? ;) [02:10] and who complained about systemsettings ? [02:10] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.core === Oculus [n=oculus@pD950B647.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:12] Nice. [02:13] Riddell: I don't know. settings:/ could possibly be something really good if it didn't categorize hierarchically. [02:13] Riddell: YaST is now, but I don't think it was before. YaST used to be very similar IIRC. [02:14] settings:/ is an ioslave! it has to organise hierarchically [02:14] and there's no reason for configuration to be part of konqueror [02:17] Nope. [02:17] But there's the argument that we could continuously reuse programs. [02:17] I like that idea. [02:17] I know it leads to code bloat, but gosh, it is such a nice idea isn't it? [02:18] Did we finally upgrade our version of gnash in the repos? [02:19] it's not code bloat, the ioslave has uses, just not as a user interface [02:20] You and your "logic" and your "reason" [02:20] heh [02:20] I just thought it was neat that there was another IO slave that I didn't know about. [02:23] http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Set_up_KDE_4_for_development#Setting_up_KDevelop <<< I tried regenerating the ctags database as described in the bottom of this section. I don't think it worked, because the ctags tab remains empty. In the application tab I get this: http://pastebin.com/929550. Is this expected? === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:27] Back in a bit. [02:27] steveire: can't say I've ever used ctags. #kde4-devel is the place for kde 4 development [02:27] Riddell: OK. That's a quiet channel at the minute. I'll ignore it for now. === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio__ [n=tonio@81.185.113.176] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee waves === Jucato surfs [02:43] :) === n8k99 laughs [03:05] hiya n8k99! === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@chello062178070021.24.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:36] hiya Hobbsee [03:36] :) === n8k99 was taking positions on the AUD/USD market [03:37] haha [03:37] any conclusion? [03:38] not really, its my first time looking at that chart === aplg is now known as apachelogger [03:38] ahhh [03:39] just started digging into the forex market a couple months ago [03:39] still not playing with real money === n8k99 finds it a fascinating study of dynamic systems [03:41] :) [03:41] Hobbsee: how's everything so far? no suspicious-looking characters? (just don't look in the mirror :P) [03:41] au's a weird place [03:41] Jucato: hm? [03:41] Jucato: work's over. [03:41] ah good :) [03:42] didnt see any weird ones [03:42] the new boss stayed around until an hour before close - then i just read the paper :P [03:42] speaking of suspicious characters- there's one now [03:42] ah, you probably didn't look in the mirror :) [03:42] ^^^ [03:42] I still don't know why people still use MySQL :) [03:42] manchicken_: I still don't know why people are what they are (; [03:46] n8k99: btw. I'm beyond suspicious... >:) [03:47] ha === n8k99 bets Jucato still uses MySQL === Jucato doesn't even use any database.. [03:50] Tm_T: That's a harder question than why people use MySQL :) [03:51] The simple answer is that they just haven't tried postgresql yet :) [03:53] Hmm... [03:53] My katapult install doesn't seem to work for amarok and documents and bookmarks. [03:53] I take that back, it works for bookmarks, but not amarok and documents. [03:54] The documents thing seems to just look in my home directory... [03:54] These paths should be configurable... [03:54] yup [03:55] idea of Katapult is ok but, just don't like the way it works [03:55] can't control priorities etc [03:55] like, if you have bin and some folder in same name, which one to open? [03:55] Damnit Tm_T, why isn't it configurable? [03:55] heh [03:56] manchicken_: is the Amarok catalog enabled? [03:56] don't ask me, I don't use it [03:56] Jucato: Yeah. [03:56] Jucato: The question is does Katapult use a messaging system or API to get data from amarok, or is it looking for files in a path? [03:57] fabo: ping? [03:57] I'm guessing that it's just looking for files in a path. [03:57] that sounds bad [03:57] Why? [03:57] manchicken_: as for Documents, it only scans the first "level" in $HOME. to be able to go to other folder, you have to type the a bit of the folder name then press / [03:57] Jucato: That should be configurable. [03:57] for amarok, it looks into the Amarok's collection [03:57] manchicken_: it currently isn't :) [03:57] Jucato: You should be able to tell it what folder to use for that catalog. [03:58] it needs an indexing utility to be able to do that... [03:59] yeah I know. I don't like the current implementation of the Document catalog either... but what can I do? :) [03:59] Jucato: fix it? [03:59] ;--P [03:59] I would if I could :P [03:59] Jucato: Does it actually look at the internal amarok format, or does it use an Amarok library to get the collection? [03:59] Jucato: Why can't you? [03:59] fdoving: apt-get update && apt-cache policy kio-umountwrapper [03:59] fdoving: :) [03:59] Jucato: Your fingers or eyes broken? :) [04:00] manchicken_: my brain is broken :P [04:00] pfiou, I'm about ended with n-m 0.6.5 [04:00] Tonio_: Katapult needs improvement. When'll you have it done? [04:00] manchicken_: improvements ? never ;) [04:00] packaging, probaly today ;) [04:00] Mez is the current maintainer btw [04:00] manchicken_: is there a new version available ? [04:01] !Info katapult [04:01] katapult: item launcher for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.1.4-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 326 kB, installed size 2956 kB [04:01] Tonio_: 0.3.2 never made it into feisty it seems [04:01] Jucato: okay I'll upgrade the package just after I'm done with n-m [04:02] manchicken_: as for your amarok question, I don't know... I haven't taken a look at the source code or asked Mez about it [04:02] Jucato: but n-m is a big job and is the priority btw ;) [04:02] mhb: ping ? [04:02] Tonio_: take your time :) [04:04] mhb: I wanted to make a point on kdesudo, what's done, what needs to be done, so that we can schedule this to be ready for feisty [04:04] mhb: please ping me when arround [04:05] manchicken_: btw, is amarok running when you tried to use the amarok catalog? (just checking) [04:05] nixternal: we tend to not use debian/patches/03_libtool_update.diff - so run autohell, etc, ourselves. [04:05] nixternal: you'd have to ask fabo for the specifics on kftpgrabber === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:06] Jucato: Yes. === herstail [n=huahua@221.201.56.21] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:07] manchicken_: ah ok..hm... it seems that the amarok catalog uses dcop to query amarok :) [04:07] just not sure... I got lost in a sea of nested if...else's :D [04:08] Jucato: Okay, what the hell are you talking about your brain being broke? [04:08] Riddell: Jucato has been holding out on us. [04:08] manchicken_: lol. I barely know C++ or any programming language for that matter :) [04:08] hence I can't help w/ any technically oriented stuff just yet [04:08] Jucato: Nonsense. You just read some, didn't you? [04:08] yeah.. and got lost :) [04:09] meh [04:09] I'm not completely ignorant, though... but I don't think I can handle big stuff just yet :) [04:09] Tm_T: you just reminded me of my neighbor's goat... [04:10] Jucato: That's normal. [04:10] Getting lost is normal. [04:10] Especially if you're not familiar with the codebase. [04:10] :) [04:10] I'll be very lost when I first peek at a new codebase. [04:11] Jucato: that's me allright [04:11] Tm_T: just don't ask where the goat is now :/ [04:12] well, you already ate it some days ago, so I expect what's left of it is somewhere in local water circulation [04:13] lol not me :) [04:13] but close? [04:13] well, it was my neighbor :) [04:13] but I didn't eat... we're not "close" [04:14] didn't mean that, more like, I didn't guess totally wrong [04:14] ooH, did you get to install xubuntu on its skeleton? [04:15] O.o === Tm_T is skeleton [04:16] be afraid! === Tm_T hides === n8k99 stick xubuntu live cd in Tm_T === Jucato doesn't get the connection w/ xubuntu though... [04:17] manchicken_: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/extragear/kde3/utils/katapult/plugins/catalogs/amarokcatalog/amarokcatalog.cpp?view=markup [04:17] n8k99: thanks <3 [04:17] take a look at what I got lost in :( [04:17] hehe [04:20] Tonio_: I've got a cultural question for you if you havea moment. [04:21] I lost count of how many levels of if's there were :) [04:21] Ugh... [04:22] manchicken_: please ask ;) [04:22] Jucato: Well I found the problem. [04:22] manchicken_: wow!!! :/ [04:22] The idiots are using double quotes in their SQL. [04:23] As soon as I saw they were hitting up SQL directly, I checked my postgres logs. [04:23] I need to file that as a bug. [04:23] And what a bug that is. [04:23] manchicken_: humm, wait [04:23] Tonio_: http://lnwolffeugene.blogspirit.com/images/medium_colere_agricole.jpg [04:23] Tonio_: What is the ESB? [04:23] apachelogger: WHEEAAA [04:24] manchicken_: on line 67? [04:24] or the big query on 83? [04:24]