[12:23] <boeroe> i try to use wifi on an averatec laptop. but when i want to configure wireless assitatn manger the system freezes. anyone has any experience with this problem
[12:26] <Graham> I'm having a problem with my ati radeon 9800xt pro graphics card, I can't use the proprietry drivers for some reason, x doesn't display anything... any idea why?
[12:26] <Graham> !ati
[12:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:29] <boeroe> anyone knows a program who can synchronize the contacts of my pda qteks9200  with my laptop?
[12:38] <BlueDevil> what's the easiest to install ftp server?
[12:38] <BlueDevil> i just need to copy some files over quickly from one box to another
[12:38] <BlueDevil> sftp was slow as hell
[12:38] <intelikey> is kde setup to "NOT WORK" correctly if you start it as root "on purpose" or by accident ?
[12:38] <intelikey> BlueDevil ssh and scp
[12:42] <intelikey> when code monkeys start thinking that they know what's best for the poor stupid users, and write code to force the user into a single course of action,  the ("M$" bullies) need their butts kicked all over the play ground !       "force this *!"
[12:42] <Alarm> hello , i removed by mistake kview and kviewshell, now i did reinstalled them again , but when opening through konqueror an image, instead of opening it in kview inside konqueror as an embeded viewer, it opens it in konqueror only . how can this be fixed again
[12:43] <kakarotto> someone can help me with mercury msn
[12:44] <kakarotto> someone can help me with mercury
[12:46] <kakarotto> someone can help me with mercury msn?
[12:46] <kakarotto> someone can help me with mercury msn?
[12:46] <kakarotto> someone can help me with mercury msn?
[12:46] <kim> Whats the problem?
[12:47] <kakarotto> mmm
[12:47] <Tm_T> kakarotto: I think you have problems with repeating
[12:47] <kakarotto> when execute the program, later is down
[12:48] <kakarotto> i don't speak english very well
[12:48] <kakarotto> sorryXD
[12:48] <kakarotto> how can i explain??
[12:48] <kakarotto> mmm
[12:49] <kakarotto> i start the program but after is""shutdown""
[12:50] <kadaz> kakarotto, sound corrupted
[12:50] <kakarotto> sound,???:S
[12:51] <kadaz> no good
[12:51] <kadaz> take out
[12:51] <kadaz> add/remove
[12:51] <kakarotto> what i have to do ?
[12:51] <kadaz> start menu
[12:51] <kadaz> u see?
[12:52] <kadaz> kakarotto use kubuntu?
[12:52] <kakarotto> i use the kubuntuj 7.04
[12:52] <kadaz> k
[12:53] <kakarotto> but wait , becouse  the add/remove say"another prosses etc etc"
[12:53] <kakarotto> wait me
[12:53] <kadaz> ok
[12:54] <arkanabar> Is there a way to clear everything marked for download in Synaptic?
[12:55] <kadaz> click the box to uncheck.
[12:56] <kakarotto> im backXD
[12:56] <kadaz> XD????
[12:56] <arkanabar> Ok, is there some command that would allow me to uncheck all packages currently marked for download?
[12:56] <kakarotto> mmm i cant access to the add/remove
[12:57] <kakarotto> how i can fix this?
[12:57] <kadaz> arkanabar click quit.
[12:58] <kakarotto> arkanabar??
[12:58] <kadaz> kakarotto do you see add/remove in Kubuntu menu?
[12:58] <kakarotto> yes
[12:58] <kakarotto> but said something about another program running
[01:01] <kadaz> kakarotto do you have Konsole open?
[01:02] <Schuenemann> which program can I use to play MIDI?
[01:02] <Schuenemann> I have timidity, but command line is a pain
[01:02] <kadaz> xmms will play it schuenemann
[01:02] <kadaz> !midi
[01:02] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[01:02] <kakarotto> mm
[01:03] <kakarotto> no
[01:03] <Schuenemann> xmms does it?
[01:03] <kakarotto> but the problem is fixed now
[01:03] <kakarotto> ok
[01:03] <kadaz> ok
[01:03] <kakarotto> now i see the add/remove
[01:03] <Karti> Hi all, just a quick one. Where are the list of application that open on startup kept?
[01:03] <Schuenemann> kadaz, how about those samples? will I have to get them again?
[01:03] <kadaz> I did a search for it on apt, xmms has plugin for it.
[01:04] <Liyon> damn
[01:04] <kadaz> schuenemann find the midi files on ur computer
[01:04] <Schuenemann> I know where they are...
[01:04] <kakarotto> mmm im noob
[01:04] <Liyon> does anyone know how i can make my rt2500 driver work with my network?
[01:04] <kadaz> cp them over to a directory you want them.
[01:04] <Schuenemann> what is mmm, kakarotto?
[01:05] <Schuenemann> kadaz, I like where they are... what do you mean?
[01:05] <kakarotto> no, but i did repair the problem
[01:05] <Schuenemann> kadaz, by 'samples' I mean the instruments
[01:05] <kadaz> ok, schuenemann then why are you worried about them?/
[01:05] <kadaz> ok
[01:05] <kakarotto> mmm but kadaz said some sound for use the mercury msn
[01:06] <kakarotto> *some about sound
[01:06] <kakarotto> hey kadaz
[01:06] <kadaz> kakarotto can you remove and put program back.
[01:06] <kadaz> do you have sound card?
[01:06] <kakarotto> yes realtek ac'97
[01:06] <kadaz> it play music
[01:07] <kakarotto> yes whit amarok
[01:07] <kadaz> ok
[01:07] <kakarotto> with
[01:07] <kadaz> then problem with mercury msn
[01:07] <kadaz> remove and then back  ok
[01:07] <kakarotto> mmm
[01:07] <kadaz> first try?
[01:07] <Schuenemann> I have that crappy sound card too
[01:07] <kakarotto> yes its my first try
[01:08] <kakarotto> but how can i remove weth the console?
[01:08] <kadaz> kakarotto ok use gaim or amsn
[01:08] <kakarotto> hahaha but amsn is ugly and gaim dislake me
[01:08] <kakarotto> dislike me
[01:09] <kadaz> kopete
[01:09] <kadaz> I dont see kakarotto in cache search
[01:09] <kadaz> I mean mercury
[01:09] <kakarotto> yeah kopete is good but, have some problems with the send of files
[01:09] <kadaz> I dont know program name
[01:10] <kadaz> sudo apt-get remove mercury ?
[01:10] <kadaz> !mercury
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mercury - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <Schuenemann> kakarotto, amsn looks like msn
[01:10] <kakarotto> mmm don't worry , i'll do with the adept
[01:10] <kadaz> I dont know how to keep schuenemannn
[01:11] <kadaz> ok I go work, be back later
[01:12] <Schuenemann> to keep me?
[01:12] <Re|ent|ess> I forgot my Root password
[01:12] <Re|ent|ess> D:<
[01:12] <Re|ent|ess> I always forget to write it down
[01:14] <Re|ent|ess> Hello?
[01:14] <mneptok> ubuntu has no root password
[01:15] <Re|ent|ess> i installed it duh
[01:15] <mneptok> you installed what?
[01:15] <Re|ent|ess> Kubuntu
[01:15] <mneptok> ok.
[01:15] <mneptok> Kubuntu has no root password
[01:15] <Re|ent|ess> .........
[01:15] <mneptok> !sudo
[01:15] <Re|ent|ess> When you install
[01:15] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:16] <Re|ent|ess> You setan adminstraors password
[01:16] <Re|ent|ess> i forgot that
[01:16] <mneptok> no, you set a password for your account
[01:16] <mneptok> nothing else
[01:17] <john_> WHat linux are you using
[01:17] <adaptr> are you serious ?
[01:18] <Re|ent|ess> Yes.
[01:18] <Re|ent|ess> I want to set the root password
[01:19] <Schuenemann> that link explains that
[01:19] <StErGi0s> you cant set root password
[01:19] <mneptok> (K/X)Ubuntu does not use a root password. use sudo.
[01:19] <Re|ent|ess> even sudo ask me for a password
[01:19] <Tm_T> StErGi0s: he can
[01:19] <Re|ent|ess> And im not running live
[01:19] <mneptok> use your account's password
[01:19] <Tm_T> Re|ent|ess: yes, your password
[01:20] <Re|ent|ess> I did
[01:20] <StErGi0s> Tm_T: its just the accounts pass
[01:20] <Tm_T> StErGi0s: well, you can set root password
[01:20] <Schuenemann> yeah, you can
[01:20] <Re|ent|ess> SOOO then tell me how
[01:20] <StErGi0s> if you say so..
[01:20] <Tm_T> but is it needed? no
[01:20] <Re|ent|ess> i have never had this probelm where i could e set the password
[01:20] <Schuenemann> Re|ent|ess, read the page
[01:20] <jawee> I installed a package that also tried to install java-jre
[01:20] <Re|ent|ess> !sudo
[01:20] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:21] <jawee> It messed up
[01:21] <jawee> Now when I do apt-get install -f as root
[01:21] <jawee> Now I'm at the EULA in Konsole
[01:21] <Re|ent|ess> Dont apt-get Java
[01:21] <jawee> And it won't go
[01:21] <Re|ent|ess> Press enter?
[01:21] <Schuenemann> I got java by apt-get
[01:21] <jawee> I tried
[01:21] <jawee> and space, and o
[01:21] <jawee> It won't do anything
[01:21] <Re|ent|ess> REcompile?
[01:21] <jawee> I've tried it several times
[01:21] <Tm_T> Re|ent|ess: you don't compile jre ;)
[01:22] <jawee> I'm quite confused as to what to do
[01:22] <Re|ent|ess> Yes you do...
[01:22] <Re|ent|ess> They just ahev a bin
[01:22] <Re|ent|ess> *have
[01:22] <jawee> No source code
[01:22] <jawee> Exactly
[01:22] <jawee> Now, any ideas? I don't know what the deal is
[01:22] <Re|ent|ess> hold on
[01:22] <Re|ent|ess> i have a link
[01:22] <Tm_T> Re|ent|ess: how you compile bin?
[01:22] <Tm_T> !java
[01:22] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:22] <mneptok> jawee: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[01:23] <Tm_T> humm, that doesn't help much
[01:23] <Tm_T> oh well, night ->
[01:23] <jawee> I really don't want it installed anymore. It won't uinstall either
[01:23] <Schuenemann> that EULA always appear
[01:23] <jawee> but I'll try
[01:23] <Schuenemann> can't you scroll down or something?
[01:23] <jawee> nope
[01:24] <jawee> I seriously cannot get anything to get past the EULa
[01:24] <jawee> That is my problem
[01:24] <Schuenemann> dammit...
[01:25] <jawee> I tried sun-java6-plugin, didn't work
[01:25] <mneptok> just hit tab/enter
[01:25] <jawee> Oh, tab. Thanks... I was thinking just enter. That was all.
[01:25] <jawee> I knew it had to be simple and stupid
[01:26] <jawee> Seriously. I've been messing forever. I don't know why I didn't think of that
[01:26] <jawee> Well, by forever, 10 minutes, but way too long
[01:28] <Re|ent|ess> jawee: http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=11187
[01:28] <Re|ent|ess> DOwnload that
[01:29] <Re|ent|ess> And before you install
[01:29] <Re|ent|ess> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting
[01:29] <jawee> Re|ent|ess: I got it
[01:29] <jawee> I'm fine
[01:29] <Re|ent|ess> Read that completely
[01:29] <Re|ent|ess> <_<
[01:29] <Re|ent|ess> heh
[01:29] <Re|ent|ess> pfft
[01:29] <jawee> I just needed to be able to accept the EULA
[01:29] <Re|ent|ess> D:<
[01:30] <Re|ent|ess> How come i cant apt-get anything
[01:32] <Schuenemann> you have to be more specific...
[01:32] <Schuenemann> !question
[01:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:32] <Schuenemann> !ask
[01:32] <hasan> hi
[01:32] <Schuenemann> bah, I forgot the bot command for that :)
[01:32] <Re|ent|ess> ok
[01:32] <Schuenemann> !why
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about why - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <hasan> is there a channel for perl questions?
[01:32] <hasan> :)
[01:32] <hasan> ok
[01:32] <hasan> that was the questions
[01:32] <hasan> is there a perl specific channel
[01:32] <Re|ent|ess> ##perl
[01:32] <hasan> :)
[01:33] <Schuenemann> hasan, it wasn't for you :)
[01:33] <hasan> i dont want to be philosophical but why not?
[01:33] <Schuenemann> why not what?
[01:33] <hasan> ::)
[01:33] <hasan> i ve got a perl related problem
[01:33] <hasan> ok
[01:33] <hasan> :)
[01:33] <hasan> i m trying to create a dictionary french to turkish
[01:33] <hasan> it s composed of more than 125000 words
[01:34] <hasan> and i need to extract the data in a structured manner to be able to use it in xml
[01:34] <Schuenemann> try the perl channel
[01:34] <ariane> hi. i would like to ask a stupid question. in gnome i was able to have an icon of my /home on my desktop. how do i do that with KDE?
[01:34] <Schuenemann> #perl
[01:35] <hasan> then ill reformat it in xml to be able to use in my mobile phone
[01:35] <hasan> namely mpx220
[01:35] <Re|ent|ess> Schuenemann: Why do i get this when i try to install http://chewynet.pastebin.ca/567362
[01:35] <hasan> but now that u like to answer
[01:35] <hasan> here is a question for u
[01:35] <hasan> how to connect a mobile phone with kubuntu
[01:35] <hasan> kmobile tools is not of use
[01:35] <hasan> and i cant do it with raki also
[01:35] <Re|ent|ess> Kandy?
[01:35] <hasan> when i use lsusb command
[01:35] <Schuenemann> I don't how to connect... if you find out, tell me, please =D
[01:35] <hasan> i can see that my mobile phone is listed
[01:35] <hasan> so u ve got a mpx220 too ?
[01:35] <Re|ent|ess> No
[01:35] <hasan> what a coincidence :P
[01:35] <Re|ent|ess> I know KDE programs
[01:36] <Re|ent|ess> Kandy should connnect your Phone
[01:36] <Schuenemann> ariane, right-click, create new, link to application
[01:36] <Schuenemann> command: 'konqueror ~'
[01:36] <hasan> so
[01:36] <hasan> what is your suggestion
[01:36] <Schuenemann> I have a nokia
[01:36] <Re|ent|ess> Kandy
[01:36] <hasan> kandy
[01:36] <Re|ent|ess> apt-get install kandy
[01:36] <Alarm> could someone suggest a nice image viewer ? something close to irfan ? eksept gwenview
[01:36] <Alarm> eksept = except
[01:37] <hasan> im trying to dl
[01:37] <Schuenemann> what's wrong with gwenview?
[01:37] <Re|ent|ess> Pisca
[01:37] <Re|ent|ess> err
[01:37] <Alarm> Schuenemann,  its a nice one, but i cant even resize images or save them in another format
[01:37] <Schuenemann> ahh... you don't want a simple viewer, then
[01:37] <Schuenemann> how about GIMP?
[01:37] <Alarm> i dont want much, but dont want more than that
[01:38] <Re|ent|ess> Alarm: http://picasa.google.com/
[01:38] <hasan> :)
[01:38] <Alarm> gimp is not an image viewer
[01:38] <Re|ent|ess> Try that
[01:38] <hasan> its more than sufficent
[01:38] <hasan> :)
[01:38] <hasan> i think
[01:38] <hasan> :)
[01:38] <Schuenemann> you can view images with GIMP
[01:38] <jussi01> digikam
[01:38] <Schuenemann> and edit, etc, etc
[01:38] <hasan> that was the first program coming to my mind
[01:38] <Re|ent|ess> Schuenemann: its not a good imagae viewer
[01:38] <hasan> even create from scratch
[01:38] <Re|ent|ess> Editer yes
[01:38] <hasan> ::)
[01:38] <Re|ent|ess> Viewer no
[01:38] <Alarm> Schuenemann,  i am not going to open a whole application like gimp just to see a jpg , get serious
[01:38] <hasan> hes extremist
[01:38] <hasan> :)
[01:39] <Schuenemann> I agree... that's why I use gwenview
[01:39] <Schuenemann> hehe
[01:39] <hasan> schuenemann
[01:39] <hasan> where r u from?
[01:39] <hasan> germany?
[01:39] <Schuenemann> brazil
[01:39] <Re|ent|ess> Schuenemann: Why do i get this when i try to install http://chewynet.pastebin.ca/567362
[01:39] <Alarm> and asking from a viewer to resize is not something that strange
[01:39] <Schuenemann> and you?
[01:39] <hasan> your name sound likes german
[01:39] <hasan> turkey
[01:39] <jussi01> digikam, digikam, digikam
[01:39] <Alarm> picasa on linux ? is that free ?
[01:39] <Schuenemann> it's german, but that doesn't mean I have to be from there :)
[01:39] <hasan> who was he?
[01:40] <hasan> matmetician ?
[01:40] <hasan> programmer?
[01:40] <jussi01> Alarm: free as in beer ... not real free
[01:40] <hasan> it sound like von neumann architecture
[01:40] <Schuenemann> huh?
[01:40] <Schuenemann> Re|ent|ess, have you ever used that kandy?
[01:40] <hasan> forget about it
[01:40] <hasan> :)
[01:40] <Alarm> as i said, gwenview is a really nice viewer, its just i want 1-2 features more
[01:40] <Alarm> i will check it , thank you a lot
[01:40] <jussi01> Alarm: digikam
[01:40] <hasan> relentless
[01:41] <hasan> i ve installed it
[01:41] <hasan> is it gtk based app?
[01:41] <Schuenemann> I installed that kandy but I have no clue on how to use it
[01:41] <Alarm> digikam ? i will check that for sure, i think it was on my system and i removed it :)
[01:41] <hasan> thought its name sounds like kde
[01:41] <hasan> mee too
[01:41] <hasan> :)
[01:41] <hasan> i ve just clicked on connect
[01:41] <hasan> that's all
[01:41] <hasan> :)
[01:41] <navets> I am trying to run warcraft 3, everything works normally but very choppy if I dont use opengl. When I use opengl all the colors are messed up, does anyone have any idea on how to fix this? do I maybe not have opengl configured properly or do I need some drivers or something?
[01:41] <hasan> nothing happens
[01:41] <Schuenemann> did it connect?
[01:41] <Schuenemann> ahh heheh
[01:41] <hasan> nope
[01:42] <Re|ent|ess> Schuenemann: yes
[01:42] <Schuenemann> no connection, nothing on console
[01:42] <hasan> my phone is mpx220
[01:42] <jussi01> Alarm: digikam has a whole load of plugins iirc...
[01:42] <Schuenemann> Re|ent|ess, any tips?
[01:42] <Re|ent|ess> I CANT INStALL IT CAUSE YOU WONT ANSWER MY QUESTIO
[01:42] <Re|ent|ess> n
[01:42] <Alarm> ok , i will check that. gwen does also take piki plugins or something like that. but dont do what i want :)
[01:42] <hasan> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[01:42] <hasan>   Major opcode:  145
[01:42] <hasan>   Minor opcode:  3
[01:42] <Re|ent|ess> Schuenemann: Why do i get this when i try to install http://chewynet.pastebin.ca/567362 <---- Question
[01:42] <hasan>   Resource id:  0x0
[01:42] <Schuenemann> Re|ent|ess, it seems it just didn't find the package
[01:42] <hasan> Failed to open device
[01:42] <hasan> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[01:42] <hasan>   Major opcode:  145
[01:42] <hasan>   Minor opcode:  3
[01:42] <hasan>   Resource id:  0x0
[01:42] <hasan> Failed to open device
[01:42] <Alarm> heart for an irfan clone , xnview i think , but if thats an irfan view than i am casbah
[01:43] <Schuenemann> hasan, please, use pastebin when typing longer messages... but that message is normal, no harm
[01:43] <hasan> pastebin
[01:43] <Schuenemann> Re|ent|ess, you probably don't have the repository for xchat, I believe
[01:43] <hasan> whats that?
[01:43] <Alarm> really whats that error about ?
[01:43] <coreymon77> hey guys
[01:43] <hasan> im a newbie in chat
[01:43] <coreymon77> how do i compile something from source
[01:43] <Schuenemann> !pastebin | hasan
[01:43] <ubotu> hasan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:44] <hasan> i see
[01:44] <Schuenemann> Re|ent|ess, you have universe/multiverse enable in you sources.list?
[01:44] <Schuenemann> enabled*
[01:44] <Re|ent|ess> How?
[01:44] <Alarm> xhat rules...
[01:44] <hasan> so how do i use that kandy
[01:44] <Schuenemann> !multiverse | Re|ent|ess
[01:44] <ubotu> Re|ent|ess: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:44] <BlueDevil> hasan: might be because of the wacom devices in xorg.conf
[01:44] <Schuenemann> do that and try again :)
[01:44] <hasan> it does not taste so candy as its name indicates
[01:44] <coreymon77> hello?
[01:45] <hasan> print "Hello world\n";
[01:45] <Alarm> only thing that i would like xchat to do, would be to able to handle colours , underlined , and bold text
[01:45] <coreymon77> i want to compile something from source? what do i do
[01:45] <BlueDevil> coreymon77: what specifically?
[01:45] <coreymon77> tuxclimber
[01:45] <Schuenemann> I would like an IRC client like mirc
[01:45] <hasan> make configure install maybe
[01:45] <hasan> :)
[01:45] <hasan> as my ancestors has said once
[01:45] <BlueDevil> coreymon77: install build-essential
[01:46] <Alarm> mIRC is indeed whats best around . but xchat is surely the best irc client for linux compared to the rest
[01:46] <hasan> what about konversation
[01:46] <jussi01> Alarm: konversation ftw!
[01:46] <Alarm> konversaion , ksirc or how is that called... nothing so special
[01:46] <Alarm> plus i dong like their gui
[01:46] <Schuenemann> Alarm, I'm using konversation... I liked it better than xchat
[01:46] <jussi01> !compile | coreymon77
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[01:47] <hasan> i use konversation
[01:47] <hasan> too
[01:47] <Schuenemann> ksirc, kvirc and bitchx are horrible
[01:47] <hasan> votes go for konversation
[01:47] <Alarm> bitchx is a console client anyway
[01:47] <hasan> so mobile phone
[01:47] <Schuenemann> yeah...
[01:47] <Alarm> cant compare apples with tomatoes
[01:47] <hasan> is there anyone who has achieved to connect his mobile phone with kubuntu
[01:47] <Schuenemann> why not? they're fruits :p
[01:47] <Alarm> since when is a tomato a fruit ?
[01:47] <Re|ent|ess> !repositories
[01:47] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:48] <Schuenemann> since always?
[01:48] <coreymon77> Alarm: since always
[01:48] <coreymon77> Alarm: is a tomato part of a plant
[01:48] <Alarm> tomato is a fruit ? according to that a cacumber is also a fruit and not a vegetable
[01:48] <hasan> once everything was a fruit till mendelsohn
[01:48] <coreymon77> Alarm: no, it has seeds
[01:48] <Alarm> tomato is a vegetable
[01:48] <jussi01> Alarm: a tomato is a fruit... :P
[01:48] <coreymon77> Alarm: no, there is not a single vegetable in this world that has seeda
[01:48] <Alarm> so when you eat a fruit salat, does it have tomato in it ?
[01:48] <hasan> tomato is a fruit of love
[01:48] <coreymon77> seeds*
[01:49] <jussi01> heh... pumpkin?
[01:49] <coreymon77> Alarm: doesnt matter, toamto is still considered a fruit
[01:49] <hasan> fruit of the rain seeds and everthings else
[01:49] <hasan> :P
[01:49] <Schuenemann> doesn't matter what people say, tomato is a fruit
[01:49] <Alarm> not in greece.
[01:49] <hasan> ok
[01:49] <Schuenemann> most people I know says computer = windows, and  they're not right, are they?
[01:49] <coreymon77> Alarm: doesnt matter where you are
[01:49] <Alarm> we dont put fruits in a salat with oil. sorry
[01:49] <coreymon77> Alarm: vegetables are parts of the plants
[01:49] <hasan> its nice to see botanician here
[01:49] <hasan> :)
[01:49] <Schuenemann> tomato is a fruit anywhere
[01:49] <coreymon77> Alarm: fruits are not, they have seeds
[01:49] <Schuenemann> unless greek tomatoes are different
[01:49] <hasan> everybody is very gourmand here
[01:49] <jussi01> !offtopic
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[01:50] <hasan> :)
[01:50] <Alarm> paprika has also seeds, is it a fruit ?
[01:50] <hasan> u see
[01:50] <coreymon77> Alarm: paprikas a spice
[01:50] <hasan> u should add a K letter in front of Ktomato is not a fruit
[01:50] <hasan> in that way
[01:50] <Schuenemann> Alarm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato#Fruit_or_vegetable
[01:50] <Alarm> according to what u define as fruit, paprika is also a fruit
[01:50] <snowdonkey> Is there such a service as satellite internet as opposed to DSL?
[01:50] <Alarm> coreymon77,  u mean peperonis not paprikas
[01:51] <hasan> Kpaprikas
[01:51] <hasan> je vous en prie d'etre respeteux
[01:51] <hasan> :P
[01:52] <eriefisher> I use satellite. Xplornet. little slow
[01:52] <eriefisher> it's my only option other than dial up
[01:52] <Alarm> Tomato" to be both the state fruit and the state vegetable
[01:53] <Alarm> after all, the whole world is not just america
[01:53] <jussi01> !offtopic
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[01:53] <jussi01> next question ?
[01:53] <Alarm> 1) they didnt "invent" tomato , 2) just because americans cant decide what tomato is, doesnt mean that we greeks cant call it a vegetable :)
[01:54] <Alarm> and once we created democracy, i vote tomato to be a vegetable :)
[01:54] <jussi01> Has someone got a kubuntu question?
[01:54] <coreymon77> jussi01: yes
[01:54] <Schuenemann> and that started because a comparison of Linux's IRC clients heheh
[01:54] <coreymon77> jussi01: i need help compiling something
[01:54] <jussi01> coreymon77: did you read the link before?
[01:54] <Alarm> hehe :) jussi01  i apologise
[01:55] <coreymon77> jussi01: yes, its not helping
[01:55] <jussi01> Alarm: np's your all good :D
[01:55] <zerozero> is there any danger with mounting an NTFS drive with NFS?
[01:55] <jussi01> coreymon77: have you read the readme contained in the downlad?
[01:56] <coreymon77> jussi01: there is none
[01:56] <jussi01> coreymon77: can you give me a linkto the source?
[01:57] <coreymon77> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=127002
[01:57] <jussi01> coreymon77: tell me what you have done so far?
[01:57] <Schuenemann> Re|ent|ess, so, how about that kandy?
[01:58] <Schuenemann> ...
[01:58] <coreymon77> jussi01: nothing, i tried using configure
[01:58] <coreymon77> jussi01: but that didnt work
[01:58] <coreymon77> jussi01: i installed the build-essential package
[01:58] <BlueDevil> coreymon77: the source is broken
[01:58] <jussi01> coreymon77: did you use configure or ./configure ?
[01:58] <coreymon77> ./
[01:58] <BlueDevil> coreymon77: at least it looks that way
[01:59] <coreymon77> jussi01: where is the configure file?
[01:59] <jussi01> BlueDevil: how so?
[01:59] <jussi01> just looking
[01:59] <BlueDevil> jussi01: for starters there's no configure, just a static makefile
[01:59] <coreymon77> so what do i do?
[01:59] <BlueDevil> jussi01: the build fails with a syntax error
[02:00] <BlueDevil> maybe that's why nobody bothered to make a package
[02:00] <coreymon77> BlueDevil: then what do i do
[02:00] <coreymon77> ?
[02:00] <BlueDevil> coreymon77: relax, kick back...get some beer
[02:01] <coreymon77> BlueDevil: and then get arrested for underaged drinking
[02:01] <BlueDevil> maybe it'll build on windows, there a visual studio project file in there
[02:01] <jussi01> heh.. i
[02:01] <coreymon77> BlueDevil: should i just try to wine the windoze binary?
[02:01] <BlueDevil> if there's a binary, yes
[02:02] <coreymon77> BlueDevil: its for doze though
[02:03] <coreymon77> well taht didnt work
[02:03] <coreymon77> is there any way to compile it?
[02:04] <jussi01> coreymon77: i cant figure it out right now.. weird... looks broken
[02:04] <coreymon77> any way at all?
[02:04] <coreymon77> jussi01: anything i can do?
[02:04] <jussi01> coreymon77: not right now, ill continue to have a look though
[02:09] <coreymon77> jussi01: maybe cvs?
[02:09] <jussi01> coreymon77: ?
[02:09] <jussi01> there is a cvs service also
[02:09] <jussi01> ??
[02:09] <coreymon77> its sourcefoge, they always have cvs
[02:10] <coreymon77> jussi01: maybe you can build it for me from tehre, im cluelessabout cvs
[02:10] <jussi01> link?
[02:10] <coreymon77> jsut look on the link i already gave you
[02:11] <coreymon77> its under the code menu
[02:12] <Schuenemann> why some programs being ran by the terminal "lock" the terminal and some don't?
[02:12] <coreymon77> jussi01: found it?
[02:13] <jussi01> yep
[02:13] <jose__> hola+
[02:13] <jussi01> !es | jose__
[02:13] <ubotu> jose__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:16] <coreymon77> jussi01: does the cvs help
[02:16] <coreymon77> ?
[02:16] <jussi01> coreymon77: patience... ive got loads to do... ;)
[02:17] <Schuenemann> coreymon77, just curious, what are you installing?
[02:17] <jussi01> Schuenemann: tuxclimber
[02:18] <Contrast> Greets, everyone...
[02:18] <Contrast> Does anyone know why Konqueror's not offering to save a .deb file to disk (and instead opening it in Kate) when I click this link - http://www.frostwire.com/download/?fileid=ubuntu&sid=60238450 ?
[02:20] <Contrast> I already looked in File Associations for Konqueror's settings and everything looks like it's already set up properly.
[02:21] <Schuenemann> Contrast, I don't know, but you can try wget if you just want the file for now
[02:23] <coreymon77> Contrast: or you could use firefox
[02:24] <Contrast> coreymon77: Trying to ween myself off Firefox. I'm reaching for a GTK-free desktop, although it's starting to look unrealistic
[02:24] <Schuenemann> Contrast, does that help with EVERY .deb url? maybe the content-type is defined as text
[02:24] <Schuenemann> defined in the server
[02:24] <Contrast> Schuenemann: Well, I just tried one from http://www.getdeb.net/ and the same thing happened
[02:25] <Contrast> I would imagine their server would be properly configured for the filetype
[02:25] <jussi01> yeah, i have that problem also...
[02:25] <Schuenemann> hmmm, yeah, the problem is not with them
[02:25] <coreymon77> Contrast: my response to that is, good luck!
[02:25] <Schuenemann> btw, thanks for this site :p
[02:26] <coreymon77> jussi01: so? any luck?
[02:26] <jussi01> coreymon77: patience.. im downloading build deps and a cruddy internet connection...
[02:27] <Contrast> coreymon77: Thanks. :-)
[02:27] <Contrast> Schuenemann: No problem
[02:27] <coreymon77> jussi01: oh, okay, take your time then
[02:28] <Contrast> Schuenemann: I just wish they'd set up a repository. :-\
[02:28] <Schuenemann> Contrast, I disabled the 'ask to save' and it was opened in ark, instead of kate
[02:28] <Schuenemann> http://www.getdeb.net/download.php?release=1024&fpos=0 (this one is smaller to try)
[02:30] <USlacker> can anyone confirm that kubuntuforums.net is down?
[02:31] <coreymon77> USlacker: must be
[02:31] <cWolfe> Can't open file: 'smf_sessions.MYI' (errno: 145)
[02:31] <jussi01> same for me
[02:31] <Contrast> Schuenemann: Looks like that got it for getdeb.net - the first link I mentioned still doesn't work though
[02:32] <USlacker> thx - that's the error I get
[02:32] <Contrast> Schuenemann: But that's a big help, regardless - GetDeb is the main place I'd be downloading deb's from anyway, so thanks a lot. :-)
[02:33] <trakinas> how do i see a link path?
[02:33] <Schuenemann> Contrast, try this: check separate something and ask to saev
[02:33] <Schuenemann> it asked me to save this time
[02:34] <Schuenemann> well, not for that frostwire one... maybe that site is the problem?
[02:34] <Contrast> Schuenemann: "Show file in separate viewer"? I just checked that and it still does the same thing on the frostwire link
[02:34] <Contrast> Ohh ok
[02:35] <Contrast> Yeah, that's what I'm guessing. Just weird how Firefox opens it fine.
[02:35] <trakinas> anyone?
[02:35] <Schuenemann> weird, yes
[02:35] <Schuenemann> trakinas, what do you mean?
[02:36] <trakinas> Schuenemann: for instance... ls -l vmlinuz shows that it is a link for vmlinuz-2.6.21-...
[02:36] <Contrast> I'm guessing he means, if a link redirects you to another site, how would you find out where it redirects you to?
[02:36] <Contrast> Oh. I was way off. Heh
[02:37] <trakinas> but i dont know where the original file is
[02:37] <trakinas> is there any way to see where it is the linked file?
[02:40] <trakinas> anyone?
[02:41] <Dragnslcr> A symlink?
[02:41] <Schuenemann> ls -la?
[02:41] <trakinas> Dragnslcr: yep.
[02:41] <Dragnslcr> ls -l will tell you
[02:41] <Dragnslcr> Not sure offhand how you'd see it in Konqueror
[02:41] <trakinas>   /boot/vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-2.6.21.5-slh-smp-2
[02:42] <trakinas> but where vmlinuz is?
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> You mean vmlinuz-2.6.21.5-slh-smp-2?
[02:42] <trakinas> *where are vmlinuz... =P
[02:42] <trakinas> yep
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> I would guess in the same directory
[02:43] <trakinas> /msg Dragnslcr
[02:43] <trakinas> timmy@wintermute:~$ ls -la /boot/vmlinuz*
[02:43] <trakinas> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      26 2007-06-13 16:30 /boot/vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-2.6.21.5-slh-smp-2
[02:43] <trakinas> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1745100 2007-04-15 05:07 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic
[02:43] <trakinas> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1745836 2007-05-22 23:24 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic
[02:43] <trakinas> timmy@wintermute:~$
[02:43] <trakinas> ops.
[02:43] <trakinas> i meant to send a pm.
[02:43] <trakinas> sorry
[02:44] <Schuenemann> isn't there a vmlinuz.... at the cd?
[02:44] <trakinas> Schuenemann: but the kernel used on kaubuntu does not work properly with my dvd device
[02:45] <trakinas> while gentoo kernel does. so Im installing this new kernel to see if it will work.
[02:45] <Schuenemann> wait, weren't we talking about links and their locations? :p
[02:45] <trakinas> Schuenemann: to where a link points.
[02:46] <eriefisher> how did we get from a link to a kernel problem
[02:46] <Schuenemann> yeah, that's my question too
[02:46] <trakinas> eriefisher: when grub says error 15
[02:46] <trakinas> =P
[02:46] <naught101> anyone ever seen this in firefox?
[02:46] <naught101> "firefox doesn't know how to open this address because the protocol (view-source) isn't associated with any program"
[02:46] <trakinas> naught101: which is the url?? the FULL url?
[02:47] <naught101> when selecting, and pressing "view selection source"
[02:47] <Schuenemann> isn't that file at you cd, trakinas?
[02:47] <naught101> in any page
[02:47] <Schuenemann> cd == current directory
[02:47] <trakinas> Schuenemann: no
[02:47] <trakinas> i will post ls in a a paste bin
[02:47] <naught101> trakinas: regardless of URL
[02:48] <Contrast> I thought it was "current directory"? (has to nitpick :-P )
[02:48] <trakinas> naught101: really??? paste any url you are tryinh here
[02:48] <Contrast> err, *"change directory"
[02:48] <NickPresta> Perhaps this is more of a general Linux question but how would one autostart an application when I login? (I know how to do this in the most basic way - symlink the binary to ~/.kde/autostart), but I want to start apache which takes commandline arguments. How would I autostart that? Wrap the command in a simple BASH script?
[02:49] <eriefisher> I'm googleing error 15
[02:49] <Contrast> Oh, nevermind. Wrong context, sorry. Heh
[02:49] <naught101> trakinas: really... http://risingtide.org.au/
[02:49] <trakinas> http://pastebin.ca/567561
[02:49] <wedgeV> NickPresta: /etc/init.d/ and upgrade-rc.d
[02:49] <naught101> I highlight the selection, then right-click>view selection source
[02:49] <NickPresta> wedgeV, thank you. I will man and Google for more information.
[02:49] <naught101> and I get that error. then I get an empty DOM browser
[02:50] <Schuenemann> Contrast, I think it's current... whatever... :)
[02:50] <wedgeV> NickPresta: when you isntall apache it should already get started by default
[02:50] <trakinas> naught101: when trying to open or see the source?
[02:50] <trakinas> it opened both here
[02:50] <NickPresta> wedgeV, I compile apache on my own since I like the latest version.
[02:50] <wedgeV> NickPresta: ah ok
[02:51] <trakinas> Schuenemann: http://pastebin.ca/567561
[02:51] <wedgeV> NickPresta: then go with what i said before
[02:51] <naught101> yes.
[02:51] <NickPresta> wedgeV, would I be correct in assuming scripts within /etc/init.d/ are run as root?
[02:51] <wedgeV> yes
[02:51] <Schuenemann> I have no clue...
[02:51] <Schuenemann> lrwxrwxrwx 1 otto otto 26 2007-02-18 14:43 Examples -> /usr/share/example-content
[02:51] <wedgeV> NickPresta: but you need to enable it with update-rc.d
[02:51] <Schuenemann> this is the output for me
[02:51] <Schuenemann> showing the full url
[02:51] <NickPresta> wedgeV, understood. thank you.
[02:52] <trakinas> Schuenemann: okay. but where is my file? i can find only the link. =(
[02:52] <wedgeV> NickPresta: you can take one of the other scripts in there as a template... to get the start and stop working
[02:53] <BlueDevil> how can i make conqueror save the credentials i use to connect to a samba share?
[02:53] <Schuenemann> trakinas, maybe that vmlinuz-2.6.21.5-slh-smp-2 is another link? I don't know
[02:54] <trakinas> Schuenemann: neither do I. but it isnt on /boot/
[02:54] <Schuenemann> I only have those 2 *generic* you also do
[02:55] <trakinas> k
[02:55] <trakinas> thanks
[02:59] <trakinas> to look for a file i only need to type "find / name-of-thefile"
[02:59] <wedgeV> trakinas: you might try "locate name-of-thefile" first
[02:59] <trakinas> thanks
[02:59] <Schuenemann> trakinas, try "readlink link"
[02:59] <Schuenemann> readlink link_name
[03:01] <NickPresta> wedgeV, thanks for the tips. I just finished writing the script and it appears to work fine. Thank you.
[03:01] <wedgeV> trakinas: locate wont find new files though, you can update the search databaste manually with "updatedb" or something like that
[03:01] <wedgeV> NickPresta: glad to help
[03:01] <wedgeV> NickPresta: it gets run on boot though, not on login, but i guess thats what you want
[03:02] <eriefisher> trakinas: the kernel is under /boot make sure grub points to that partition
[03:02] <trakinas> thanks.
[03:02] <trakinas> i will post my grub menu.lst
[03:02] <thugnasty> hey, is there a good direct connect client for kubuntu?
[03:03] <Schuenemann> trakinas, readlink didn't work too?
[03:03] <NickPresta> wedgeV, yeah. I basically just ran the script with the "status" argument and it appeared to work fine so I guess we'll see next time I boot :P
[03:03] <trakinas> Schuenemann: one second. too much information at the same time
[03:03] <trakinas> heehheheheheh
[03:03] <Schuenemann> it's just a second to test :p
[03:04] <wedgeV> NickPresta: you can try to run it with "start" or "stop"
[03:04] <trakinas> Schuenemann: im talking to my girl at the same time
[03:04] <trakinas> she talks too much. lol
[03:05] <wedgeV> NickPresta: did you run update-rc.d <yourfile> defaults ?
[03:05] <wedgeV> NickPresta: that sets up the links so i will get started and stopped during boot/shutdown
[03:05] <trakinas> Schuenemann: readlink link ----> vmlinuz-2.6.21.5-slh-smp-2
[03:07] <Schuenemann> bah =/
[03:07] <NickPresta> wedgeV, yeah. I did that. It linked the files properly.
[03:07] <trakinas> nothing
[03:08] <trakinas> time to post menu.lst
[03:08] <wedgeV> NickPresta: ok
[03:08] <trakinas> here we go! http://pastebin.ca/567594
[03:10] <wedgeV> trakinas: what problem do you have?
[03:13] <eriefisher> whats not booting?
[03:13] <snowdonkey> Hi, I made firefox my default browser doing: sudo update-alternatives config x-www-browser.  But when I click links in KDE apps like Konversation they still open in Konqueror
[03:13] <wedgeV> snowdonkey: set it in kcontrol
[03:14] <wedgeV> kde components
[03:14] <ToddEDM2> hey there... does kubuntu have those desktop effects?
[03:15] <ToddEDM2> why do you guys prefer Kubuntu over gnome ubuntu?
[03:16] <snowdonkey> wedgev: Thanks, that did it.
[03:16] <NickPresta> I prefer KDE to Gnome and XFCE to Gnome. I hate Gnome. >_>
[03:16] <wedgeV> ToddEDM2: because we like kde?
[03:16] <eriefisher> snowdonkey: system settings>>default applications
[03:16] <ToddEDM2> ok i guess the question is , why do you prefer kde over gnome
[03:16] <malakhi> ToddEDM2: You can get them work, but it takes a bit of work.
[03:17] <malakhi> ToddEDM2: And because Gnome doesn't do what I want it to.
[03:17] <trakinas> wedgeV: it says error 15
[03:17] <NickPresta> ToddEDM2, I don't have a huge list of reasons but KDE just does what I want and works well.
[03:17] <wedgeV> ToddEDM2: gtk apps look like they will crash any minute ... :)
[03:17] <ToddEDM2> ahh
[03:17] <snowdonkey> eriefisher: Thanks, got it working.
[03:17] <ToddEDM2> so there is not major difference then
[03:18] <wedgeV> ToddEDM2: probably because i used gnome when it still used to crash a lot :)
[03:18] <snowdonkey> toddedm2: Well for me I like KDE's customizability.
[03:18] <ToddEDM2> cool
[03:18] <wedgeV> trakinas: when you do what?
[03:18] <erichj> i used gnome for like the last 7 years, switched to KDE this week and will never go back to gnome. KDE is just so much nicer.
[03:18] <ToddEDM2> im installing kubuntu on my laptop right now
[03:18] <trakinas> wedgeV: i boot. choose the kernel and error 15... =(
[03:18] <malakhi> ToddEDM2: It depends on what you mean by "major difference." There's a fairly different approach to the UI between the two.
[03:18] <wedgeV> which kernel?
[03:18] <ToddEDM2> i been trying gnome for the last month
[03:18] <ToddEDM2> 7.04
[03:19] <erichj> which kernel though, 15 or 16
[03:19] <snowdonkey> toddedm2: For me Nautilus can't shake a stick at Konqueror
[03:19] <ToddEDM2> ohhh crap.. i just noticed im not using thr 64 bit one
[03:20] <ToddEDM2> should i use 64 bit, i do have turion64x2
[03:20] <wedgeV> well too bad... now you'll have working java plugins and whatnot :)
[03:20] <mneptok> i prefer GNOME. but that's all any DE choice is. a preference. anyone that tells you "_____ DE is superior" like it's a fact is lying. and 90% of GNOME and KDE devs will tell you the same thing.
[03:20] <wedgeV> you can
[03:20] <ToddEDM2> erichj ... not too sure
[03:20] <erichj> stick to 32bit, 64 is a pain to get working if you are new to ubuntu
[03:20] <wedgeV> but you probably want the 32bit
[03:20] <trakinas> wedgeV: the new one
[03:20] <trakinas> last on the list
[03:20] <ToddEDM2> thx erichj
[03:20] <ToddEDM2> i will stick to 32
[03:20] <wedgeV> sidux?
[03:20] <ToddEDM2> 58% done formatting
[03:21] <wedgeV> ToddEDM2: do you reinstall from ubuntu 7.04 to get kubuntu 7.04?
[03:21] <wedgeV> trakinas: yes
[03:21] <ToddEDM2> wedgeV yeah
[03:21] <wedgeV> trakinas: the kernel files are not there
[03:22] <wedgeV> ToddEDM2: you could have just install the kubuntu-desktop package
[03:22] <ToddEDM2> i was dual booting windows ubuntu... now im wiping everything and starting with no windows, just kubuntu
[03:22] <wedgeV> or just kde
[03:22] <wedgeV> ah ok
[03:22] <erichj> wedgeV: some people prefer clean installs
[03:23] <ToddEDM2> yeah i had partitions everywhre :P
[03:23] <wedgeV> trakinas: how did you install that kernel?
[03:23] <erichj> and if he is new removing ubuntu-desktop doesn't remove all those packages for gnome he installed
[03:23] <trakinas> wedgeV: nooooooooow we get back to the question: where is the file that the link points to?
[03:23] <erichj> so he would have a hard time removing stuff he doesn't need
[03:23] <trakinas> wedgeV: a sh script that comes with the pack.
[03:23] <wedgeV> trakinas: not there :)
[03:24] <wedgeV> trakinas: run "updatedb" and then "locate vmlinuz-2.6.21.5-slh-smp-2"
[03:24] <wedgeV> trakinas: or maybe "find / vmlinuz-2.6.21.5-slh-smp-2"
[03:25] <ToddEDM2> i need to keep things as simple as possible... i been using windows for years
[03:25] <ToddEDM2> since 3.1
[03:25] <mneptok> trakinas: ls -Rla /boot | grep linuz
[03:25] <ToddEDM2> so how do i find out what build i got
[03:25] <wedgeV> mneptok: http://pastebin.ca/567561
[03:26] <ToddEDM2> kernel
[03:26] <mneptok> uname -a
[03:26] <mneptok> pastebin taunts me
[03:27] <mneptok> what is this kernel?
[03:27] <wedgeV> mneptok: well its not there
[03:27] <wedgeV> mneptok: he/she has a link /boot/vmlinuz to vmlinuz-2.6.21.5-slh-smp-2
[03:27] <wedgeV> mneptok: relative link
[03:28] <mneptok> how did that happen?
[03:28] <wedgeV> mneptok: dunno, i dont know what he is doing
[03:28] <eriefisher> trakinas: why did you install this kernel?
[03:28] <ToddEDM2> sorry guys.. i was not paying attention
[03:29] <ToddEDM2> i was just asking how i could find out what kernel i have
[03:29] <wedgeV> uname -r
[03:29] <erichj> type uname -a in a terminal
[03:29] <eriefisher> in konsole type uname -a
[03:29] <trakinas> eriefisher: because of this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/118276
[03:29] <ToddEDM2> thx
[03:31] <ToddEDM2> 2.6.20-15
[03:31] <ToddEDM2> generic
[03:31] <trakinas> eriefisher: im the one who opened the bug report... =P
[03:34] <trakinas> eriefisher: now see why? =P
[03:36] <wedgeV> trakinas: dpkg -l |grep udftools
[03:37] <eriefisher> trakinas: is this a sata?
[03:37] <trakinas> eriefisher: ide, i guess.
[03:37] <eriefisher> I saw some problems on the forum recently w/dvd/sata
[03:38] <trakinas> wedgeV: nothing
[03:38] <wedgeV> trakinas: ok, different problem then
[03:38] <mneptok> trakinas: i don't see why opening a bug means you're installing a kernel by hand
[03:38] <trakinas> mneptok: smth has nothing to do with the other
[03:39] <mneptok> trakinas: so why this custom kernel?
[03:39] <trakinas> mneptok: i was trying to acess my data disk and someone here, reading the out puts, told me to open a bug report and try out with another kernel
[03:40] <ToddEDM2> hey would i be able to install kubuntu on a usb thumb drive
[03:40] <trakinas> mneptok: because it works on gentoo... so it is probably a problem between my device and ubuntu kernels.
[03:40] <trakinas> wedgeV: ide... pioneer 112d
[03:41] <mneptok> trakinas: did you compile this kernel?
[03:41] <trakinas> mneptok: no. it is a series of debian packs.
[03:41] <trakinas> you run a sh script and it does the job for you
[03:42] <trakinas> mneptok: http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/sidux/
[03:42] <mneptok> trakinas: i think this other person meant "use a previous Ubuntu kernel that worked"
[03:42] <erichj> http://duggmirror.com/apple/Mozilla_COO_Steve_Jobs_Not_Good_for_the_Web/48eda90509619476ce915804da54658e_safari-marketshare-21.png
[03:42] <erichj> wishful thinking. i guess jobs doesn't realize that more people use ubuntu than mac os x
[03:42] <trakinas> mneptok: never used ubuntu before. and i really got problems trying to install any ubuntu kernel...
[03:43] <trakinas> erichj: O.O
[03:43] <mneptok> trakinas: wait, you're not using Ubuntu?
[03:44] <trakinas> mneptok: i am..
[03:44] <trakinas> i meant: never used ubuntu before this version.
[03:44] <mneptok> ah, ok.
[03:44] <mneptok> applying random kernel patches is not a great idea
[03:45] <mneptok> one man's opinion
[03:45] <trakinas> mneptok: okay. i can remove it anyways. it has an uninstall script too. =P
[03:45] <trakinas> so, which kernel do you recommend??
[03:45] <gnomefreak> not a great idea? I wouldnt even call it slightly an ok idea
[03:45] <trakinas> gentoo used to work great and mounts it on /dev/hda, not on sda... which, i think, is scsi emualtion, isnt it?
[03:45] <gnomefreak> kernel patch goes bad or is bad you dont boot
[03:46] <mneptok> trakinas: use the stock ubuntu kernel. post relevant logs to the bug report.
[03:46] <eriefisher> trakinas: did you try the other one on you .lst 2.6.20-15?
[03:46] <trakinas> what you mean with 'stock ubuntu kernel?'
[03:46] <trakinas> eriefisher: same thing
[03:46] <erichj> the one that comes with the live cd
[03:47] <trakinas> same thing. i/o read error.
[03:48] <eriefisher> what type of drive(model no.) is this
[03:48] <trakinas> eriefisher: pioneer 112-d
[03:48] <carlos_> wtf?
[03:49] <trakinas> carlos_: wtf what?
[03:49] <iosis> damnn...
[03:51] <trakinas> so... what should i do??
[03:54] <eriefisher> I'm stumped here, no problems in Gentoo?
[03:55] <trakinas> eriefisher: no
[03:55] <trakinas> eriefisher: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/7935453/dmesg-gentoo.log
[03:56] <wedgeV> you could take build a 2.6.15 kernel i guess
[03:56] <trakinas> eriefisher: to see it on ubuntu, just remove dmesg-gentoo.log...
[03:57] <trakinas> wedgeV: by hand? i tried, but crashed when attempting to compile.
[03:57] <trakinas> and i didnt understand the "ubuntu way"
[03:57] <wedgeV> trakinas: dunno, i do it the debian way
[03:57] <wedgeV> ubuntu way works too
[03:58] <trakinas> wedgeV: i did how o learnt. it crashed while making it.
[03:58] <trakinas> (after make menuconfig).
[03:58] <wedgeV> there are tons of howtos
[03:59] <wedgeV> grab the source from kernel.org
[03:59] <alatnet> uh, anyone know how to configure kubuntu to use a bluetooth optical mouse?
[03:59] <wedgeV> extract, put you current ubuntu kernel .config in, maybe run make oldconfig...
[03:59] <trakinas> wedgeV: i think i've done everything right, since i followed i guide i have here with me.
[04:00] <trakinas> Im running the update and it is downloading a new kernel header
[04:01] <Noldoaran>  I'm trying to compile a kernel using 'make xconfig', but it is complaining about not finding the qt installation, which qt library does it use? I installed libqt4-dev, but it still doesn't work..
[04:01] <wedgeV> qt3
[04:01] <trakinas> Noldoaran: i always prefered menuconfig
[04:02] <Noldoaran> trakinas: yeah that works..
[04:02] <Noldoaran> wedgeV: ok, thanks
[04:04] <alatnet> can someone help me out in configuring kubuntu to work with a logitech bluetooth optical mouse, plz?
[04:06] <josh> Anyone wanna help me get DRI going.
[04:06] <josh> i'm newb.
[04:06] <trakinas> !dri
[04:06] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[04:07] <trakinas> come on bot! =(
[04:07] <trakinas> josh: which chipset?
[04:07] <josh> i810 driver.. Intel 915 card.
[04:08] <trakinas> if it was a SiS, i would suggest you to forget about it
[04:08] <Noldoaran> wedgeV: thanks again installing libqt3-mt-dev fixed it
[04:08] <wedgeV> np
[04:08] <josh> I know it works.. I got it working for a while..
[04:08] <josh> Then I attempted to run AIGLX, removed it, and the DRI is gone now.
[04:10] <trakinas> josh: so AIGLX removed the dri support/driver?
[04:11] <josh> Well everything just kinda flipped out.
[04:11] <josh> I had to run uhh.. dpkg-reconfigure a few times to get it running again.
[04:11] <trakinas> strange...
[04:11] <josh> It's possible that that's the reason, but I had to change a LOT of settings in the meantime.
[04:12] <erichj> josh: did you install the new xorg intel drivers? there is an updated package in the reps
[04:12] <josh> So what are the basic things needed to get DRI going?.. I have Load "dri" in my xorg.conf file.. And there's the DRI section with mode 0666 or however it goes.
[04:12] <trakinas> brb
[04:13] <erichj> xserver-xorg-video-intel (2:1.9.94-1ubuntu3) [universe] 
[04:14] <josh> What is that?
[04:14] <erichj> newest intel drivers
[04:14] <josh> Okay yeah that wasn't installed.
[04:14] <josh> Wait wait.
[04:14] <josh> It was installed.
[04:14] <josh> nonono hahahaha you're right it was.. it was tellign me it was removing the old i810.
[04:15] <trakinas> how do I check which packages werent installed?
[04:15] <erichj> just restart kdm after they install
[04:15] <josh> Alright. Thanks. Lemme try that.
[04:15] <josh> Brb.
[04:16] <wedgeV> trakinas: look in aptitude ?
[04:16] <yuriy> anybody know how to get nvidia to underscan for hdtv-out?
[04:17] <trakinas> wedgeV: how? :/
[04:17] <trakinas> -f?
[04:17] <wedgeV> "aptitude"
[04:17] <wedgeV> move to "not instlled"
[04:17] <trakinas> wedgeV: only aptitude? no parameters?
[04:17] <wedgeV> enter
[04:17] <wedgeV> yes
[04:18] <trakinas> okay. a list of not installed ones...
[04:18] <wedgeV> ah :)
[04:18] <trakinas> but adept was updating and crashed saing it would broke other packages and etc..
[04:20] <trakinas> so aptitude -f?
[04:20] <rodrigo> hello how do I hear midi files in kubuntu?
[04:20] <Jucato> !midi
[04:20] <josh_ls> I tried to install that intel driver.
[04:20] <josh_ls> I couldn't boot
[04:20] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[04:20] <erichj> system settings - > sound hardware -> hardware -> set midi device
[04:20] <josh_ls> When I try to log in the screen just flips out and flashes a bunch and then returns to the login screen after about 8 seconds.
[04:20] <erichj> hmmm
[04:20] <trakinas> wedgeV: so???
[04:20] <josh_ls> so I reinstalled the i810 and.. now it runs.
[04:20] <trakinas> dpkg-reconfigure -a?
[04:21] <erichj> sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-intel
[04:22] <josh_ls> Already removed it.
[04:22] <trakinas> no one? =(
[04:22] <josh_ls> Trying this dpkg-reconfigure -a, I don't know what it does but it looks like it's doing something useful.
[04:22] <rodrigo> jucato what does the ! means?
[04:22] <rodrigo> I saw it to many times
[04:22] <trakinas> rodrigo: asking the bot
[04:22] <erichj> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:22] <rodrigo> trakinas lol
[04:23] <rodrigo> trakinas: what does the bot means?
[04:23] <trakinas> !bot
[04:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:23] <rodrigo> trakinas: bot= ?
[04:23] <joel_> ho
[04:23] <joel_> lhd
[04:23] <trakinas> rodrigo: bot is a program.
[04:24] <trakinas> google for irc bots and egg drop
[04:24] <trakinas> (although I think this isnt an eggdrop bot)
[04:24] <DaveTheAve> This is important! My resume created with OpenOffice, once exported as a PDF displayes purely as dots on other OSes! Please help me.
[04:25] <DudeMeister> hey guys
[04:25] <DudeMeister> can Aramok sync with an iPod?
[04:25] <trakinas> DaveTheAve: wow! never saw this before. i will eat something and get back soon.
[04:25] <erichj> yes
[04:25] <trakinas> DudeMeister: yes.
[04:25] <rodrigo> trakinas: ahh ok
[04:25] <trakinas> !ipod
[04:25] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[04:25] <DudeMeister> sweet!
[04:25] <rodrigo> trakinas: and I run it with the console?
[04:25] <DaveTheAve> trakinas: ok
[04:25] <DudeMeister> and it handles album art, etc?
[04:25] <rodrigo> just writing !midi?
[04:25] <trakinas> rodrigo: the bot? it runs on a server...
[04:26] <trakinas> rodrigo, go google about irc bots and have fun! =] ] ] 
[04:26] <rodrigo> trakinas: ok
[04:26] <trakinas> it can asnwer yur questions better than I can.
[04:26] <Dragnslcr> Writing bots is more fun
[04:26] <rodrigo> trakinas: thanks
[04:27] <DaveTheAve> CAAAAA_Italics_Aerial not found on windows machines.... but I exported it as a PDF
[04:27] <trakinas> Dragnslcr: he dont know what a bot is. im just telling him to read about it... =P
[04:27] <jussi01> !bot
[04:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:27] <trakinas> jussi01: i already did that.
[04:27] <rodrigo> ok guys education time if you don't know what is a bot here it goes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC_bot
[04:27] <jussi01> heh... didnt see that
[04:28] <mneptok> DaveTheAve: how did you export it?
[04:28] <rodrigo> !midi
[04:28] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[04:28] <DaveTheAve> lossless, FPDF and PDF nether work
[04:28] <mneptok> how did you export as PDF?
[04:29] <DaveTheAve> File -> Export As PDF
[04:29] <DaveTheAve> in OpenOffice
[04:29] <DaveTheAve> mnepok: This is important! My resume created with OpenOffice, once exported as a PDF displayes purely as dots on other OSes! Please help me.
[04:29] <erichj> @futurama
[04:30] <jussi01> @now melbourne
[04:30] <rodrigo> trakinas: as I understand it bot is a program here in the irc to make another channel?
[04:30] <ubotu> Current time in Australia/Melbourne: June 15 2007, 12:30:19 - Next meeting: Xubuntu Developers in 1 day
[04:30] <DaveTheAve> mnepok: that was purely what i said to this channel for help copy and pasted.... not aim at you
[04:30] <rodrigo> ooooh I want to go to Australia!!
[04:31] <rodrigo> ubotu: you are there?
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you are there? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <jussi01> hehe
[04:31] <mneptok> DaveTheAve: sudo apt-get CUPS-PDF
[04:31] <mneptok> GAH
[04:31] <mneptok> DaveTheAve: sudo apt-get cups-pdf
[04:31] <mneptok> 6bi dtpyhdaebx
[04:31] <mneptok> DaveTheAve: sudo apt-get install cups-pdf
[04:31] <DaveTheAve> lol already knew the install part
[04:32] <DaveTheAve> thx
[04:32] <DaveTheAve> now what is this?
[04:32] <erichj> ubotu: futurama
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about futurama - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <mneptok> then use the PDF printer that appears in all print dialog boxes
[04:32] <DaveTheAve> ok
[04:32] <jussi01> @futurama
[04:32] <mneptok> it's a Postscript to PDF renderer disguised as a CUPS printer
[04:32] <jussi01> hehe, diabled here
[04:33] <Khrajin> Can I pull my Thunderbird from my Windows partition into my Kubuntu and have all the setting save the same?
[04:33] <jussi01> s/diabled/disabled
[04:33] <mneptok> Khrajin: yes
[04:33] <Khrajin> mneptok: I feel like a dummy, just copy it over, or what?
[04:33] <mneptok> copy the profile dir
[04:35] <DaveTheAve> mneptok: I can't get OpenOffice to use the CUPS printer
[04:35] <DaveTheAve> it only allows use of the "Default Printer"... and I don't even have a printer installed lol
[04:36] <rodrigo> ubotu what's that about factoids
[04:36] <rodrigo> something that is not a fact but its seem like it is?
[04:36] <Jucato> rodrigo: you are talking to a bot
[04:36] <rodrigo> ok
[04:36] <Jucato> !ubotu | rodrigo
[04:36] <ubotu> rodrigo: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:36] <rodrigo> damn
[04:37] <rodrigo> Now I feel like a caveman
[04:38] <DaveTheAve> mneptok: I can't get OpenOffice to use the CUPS printer
[04:38] <Khrajin> But, it's so easy even a caveman can do it.
[04:38] <DaveTheAve> it only allows use of the "Default Printer"... and I don't even have a printer installed lol
[04:38] <Khrajin> !cups
[04:38] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:38] <eriefisher> !ubotu | caveman
[04:38] <ubotu> caveman: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:38] <Khrajin> mneptok: Where is the profile for mozilla?
[04:38] <Khrajin> mneptok: thunderbird*&
[04:39] <rodrigo> hahahhaha
[04:39] <rodrigo> I was talking with a program
[04:39] <eriefisher> Dave: print to pdf should be in the drop down menu when you click print
[04:39] <mneptok> Khrajin: Documents And Settings/$USERNAME/Application Data
[04:39] <Khrajin> mneptok: To which directory?
[04:39] <rodrigo> so bot is the clip of irc
[04:40] <rodrigo> like the clip of office
[04:40] <mneptok> Khrajin: ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[04:40] <mneptok> DaveTheAve: you may need to restart OO.o
[04:40] <Khrajin> mneptok: Thanks, DLing TB
[04:41] <Khrajin> How do you view hidden files in Konqueror?
[04:43] <mneptok> view menu
[04:43] <Khrajin> yay thx
[04:44] <dangbert> kTo quote, "Chuckie",  "I'm baaaack!!!!"
[04:45] <dthacker> wb dangbert, even though I've never met you, I'm sure it hasn't been the same without you.
[04:46] <dangbert> Last night was asking about an error message I was getting when I tried to install Kubuntu "MP-BIOS bug: 8254m timer not connected IO-APIC."  The advice was to get the Alternate CD and try to install again.  From what I can see, the only differencce is you do not have the graphical choice  - at least it looks that way between the DVD and the Alternate CD.  Anyway - so far no success
[04:47] <crackhead_25_> where is the kopete history file stored? anyone know?
[04:47] <dangbert> I don't know
[04:49] <dangbert> I have a copy of SUSE 10.2 and it will install, with the "no apic" option
[04:49] <erichj> dangbert: from the alt cd install screen you should be able to pass noapic option for the kernel
[04:50] <dangbert> Not that I could see
[04:50] <Jucato> crackhead_25_: if the History plugin is enabled, it's in ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/logs/
[04:50] <crackhead_25_> thanks.. ill go check..
[04:50] <Jucato> be warned, it's in XML
[04:51] <Khrajin> Can I pull my Thunderbird from my Windows partition into my Kubuntu and have all the setting save the same?
[04:52] <ToddEDM2> ok guys im back..... i got kubuntu all installed... networking is working fine, but the sound on my system is not , any suggestions?
[04:52] <Khrajin> ToddEDM2: hammer
[04:53] <ToddEDM2> Khrajin.. if i took a hammer to my laptop, i would most likely break the lcd and i kinda need that
[04:53] <DemonSamurai> after some updates i made i have about 6-7 ubuntu choices in boot screen how can i correct it? help pls
[04:53] <Khrajin> ToddEDM2: Taking a hammer to a laptop would produce sound.
[04:54] <DemonSamurai> after some updates i made i have about 6-7 ubuntu choices in boot menu how can i correct it? help pls
[04:54] <ToddEDM2> Khrajin... ok you win
[04:54] <Khrajin> DemonSamurai: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:55] <Khrajin> ToddEDM2: Thx.
[04:55] <Khrajin> ToddEDM2: What model laptop?
[04:55] <ToddEDM2> acer
[04:55] <Khrajin> ToddEDM2: Need more details.
[04:55] <ToddEDM2> aspire 9300-5024
[04:55] <ToddEDM2> turion64x2
[04:55] <Khrajin> ToddEDM2: Research which model soundcard you have
[04:56] <Khrajin> ToddEDM2: That will help in figuring out what you need to do.
[04:56] <ToddEDM2> i used to know.. hold on
[04:56] <dthacker> dangbert: put in noacpi at the kernel prompt, I think
[04:56] <Jucato> DemonSamurai: you can uninstall the other unused kernels
[04:56] <Khrajin> Jucato: That too.
[04:56] <ToddEDM2> you know of a cmd that might tell me?
[04:57] <Khrajin> ToddEDM2: Nope sorry. I'd suggest using acer.com
[04:57] <Jucato> !sound
[04:57] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:57] <dangbert> I did and it started to install, but errored out with a host of kernel panics in just a little while
[04:57] <Khrajin> dangbert: Give your kernel some blood thinners and nitroglicern for those panics
[04:58] <dangbert> The kernel isn't the only one :-)
[04:58] <Contrast> Greets, everyone...
[04:59] <Contrast> Can someone point me in the direction where I can find out how to set up a home network, aside from just using NFS?
[04:59] <Khrajin> This way ------------>
[04:59] <Contrast> Oh ok. Thanks. :-P
[05:01] <Ahmuck> hi, has anyone been able to get safari beta 3 to work under wine on kubuntu?
[05:07] <rodrigo> hola
[05:07] <rodrigo> hi
[05:09] <marcelol> 'lo folks
[05:09] <dthacker> dangber: kernel panics?  Have you run memtest for awhile?
[05:10] <marcelol> anyone here an nvidia driver/glx guru ?
[05:11] <eriefisher> Ahmuck: safari(apple) under wine(windows emulator)??
[05:11] <josh__> Running dpkg-reconfigure didn't help with the DRI issue.
[05:12] <Ahmuck> eriefisher: yes, tried it, hangs turn options off, crashes
[05:12] <Ahmuck> doing an strace now
[05:12] <marcelol> dl'd the linux kernel generic package and glx 9631....but when I enable it I get a totally black screen with a cursor at the upper left
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> marcelol, what card do you have?
[05:14] <eriefisher> Ahmuck :why safari?
[05:15] <marcelol> GeForce 4200 Go ( Inspiron 8500 laptop )
[05:15] <marcelol> 64Mb version
[05:15] <Ahmuck> eriefisher: for web testing
[05:15] <marcelol> it says it should support it..
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> marcelol, you may need the nvidia-glx-legacy for that one...
[05:16] <marcelol> there's a newer drive on nvidia's website, but the installation instructions are for Suse
[05:16] <marcelol> you think so ?
[05:16] <marcelol> bummer
[05:16] <marcelol> so the docs are wrong huh ? ( wouldn't be the first time )
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> using the nvidia sites drivers are not reccommended, they tend to break ubuntu
[05:17] <marcelol> the readme.txt says 0x286 GeForce4 4200Go
[05:17] <marcelol> again.......doesn't surprise me
[05:17] <josh__> I can't get DRI to run. My xorg.conf file loads it. But it's just not on.. Anyone got advice? i810 driver, Intel 915 card.
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> marcelol, do you have the linux-headers pkg as well?
[05:17] <eriefisher> Ahmuck: doesn't safari use gecko just as firefox?
[05:17] <marcelol> let me look hitman...
[05:18] <marcelol> I have a few of them installed
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> safari = blatant rip-off of konq
[05:19] <josh__> No one?
[05:19] <gdiebel> uh safari is webkit, read up on khtml. you are in #kubuntu
[05:19] <Ahmuck> safari uses khtml like konq
[05:19] <Jucato> not exactly
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> marcelol, IIRC there's also a specific pkg you need for compiling binary modules
[05:20] <marcelol> linux-headers-2.6.20-15 , linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic, linux-headers-2.6.20.16, linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic, linux-headers-generic
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> !binary
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binary - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <marcelol> Hmmm
[05:20] <Ahmuck> bleh, wine budget dedicated update my wine and created an association for *.exe to open up in wine, so now i have to worry about spyware in my wine installation
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> marcelol, ok, the -headers-generic is a meta-pkg that makes sure you have the newest ones installed
[05:21] <marcelol> excellent..( learn something new every day )
[05:21] <S4L2> can anyone recommend a blogging application? That being, anything along the lines of blogtk (which I haven't tried yet)
[05:21] <marcelol> so you think if I downgrade to the legacy, that might do the trick ?
[05:21] <marcelol> note: my goal here is to get Beryl to work
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> marcelol, same thing with the -kernel-generic pkg
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> !drivers
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> ok, hold on...
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> ok, marcelol, it appears that your problem is a known bug with that type of card, check this link for a workaround https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/109414
[05:27] <marcelol> whoa...go figure
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> marcelol, apparently, those cards tend to try to ouput on the external monitor hookup vice the laptop display
[05:28] <josh__> DRI.. nobody.. :( drat.
[05:30] <marcelol> snap...that f'ed up.......wonder if this thing has a way to disable "display via external display"in the bios...(probably not )
[05:30] <NickPresta> josh__, what did you ask with DRI?
[05:31] <marcelol> so let's say....I enable the driver...and then edit my xorg.conf by hand like it said in the bug : "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP" to the "Screen" section
[05:32] <josh__> I can't get DRI enabled.
[05:32] <NickPresta> josh__, which guide or instructions have you been following?
[05:32] <josh__> in my xorg.conf, it's set Load "dri".. When I glxinfo | grep rendering it says no.
[05:32] <josh__> Uh.. None really.. I just noticed here and there that the general consensus that you just need to Load "dri".
[05:32] <josh__> My card supports it.
[05:33] <crdlb> josh__, what video card?
[05:33] <josh__> Intel 915 with i810 driver.
[05:33] <crdlb> josh__, glxinfo|grep client
[05:33] <josh__> client glx vender string: ATI
[05:33] <josh__> Uh, that might be a problem.
[05:33] <crdlb> why did you install fglrx?
[05:33] <josh__> I have no idea.
[05:33] <crdlb> sudo apt-get --purge remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:33] <josh__> I probably just checked it on a long list of packages
[05:34] <julius> can someone type julius:
[05:34] <dthacker> julius:
[05:34] <julius> cheers
[05:34] <dthacker> np
[05:35] <dthacker> .oO(if only they were all that easy....)
[05:35] <crdlb> heh
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> marcelol, yes, that should (maybe) work...
[05:35] <NickPresta> josh__, you may want to try following the first page in this article: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon
[05:35] <josh__> okay deleting the fglrx
[05:35] <julius> anyone here get CS to work with twinview?
[05:36] <crdlb> josh__, and you have to purge it
[05:36] <marcelol> is gonna give it a shot
[05:37] <marcelol> should I enable the driver with that command it says in adept, or is there a different way to enable the driver ?
[05:37] <josh__> done.
[05:37] <dthacker> what is CS?
[05:37] <crdlb> josh__, check for direct rendering again
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> marcelol, which cmd is that? sudo nvidia-xconfig?
[05:38] <josh__> says no
[05:38] <marcelol> yeah that
[05:38] <josh__> Vendor is now SGI
[05:38] <crdlb> josh__, restart X
[05:38] <dthacker> julius: I have twinview working at my office.  What is CS?
[05:38] <josh__> Alright, be right back
[05:38] <crdlb> marcelol, you don't need legacy on that card
[05:38] <josh__> Thank you for the assistance.
[05:38] <NickPresta> dthacker, it is Counter-Strike
[05:39] <dthacker> haha, can't play that at work......
[05:39] <hitmanWilly> marcelol, yes, run that, then add the line to xorg.conf, then run sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals (if you plan on running beryl)
[05:39] <NickPresta> julius, I have TwinView and I've successfully had CS installed and running before (before I had TV) but I havent tried them together. Are you trying to get dual-monitors to work with CS?
[05:40] <dthacker> bbl
[05:40] <josh__> Still direct rendering is no
[05:40] <crdlb> josh__, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:40] <crdlb> !pastebin
[05:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:42] <josh__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25648/
[05:43] <josh__> Note line 2197
[05:44] <crdlb> your problem is right here: (EE) I810(0): Failed to allocate texture space.
[05:44] <josh__> Too little video card memory?
[05:45] <marcelol> ok folks....gonna reboot and see if this picked it up.....wish me luck
[05:45] <marcelol> brb
[05:46] <josh__> Is that what I'm understanding, crdlb? Too little video card memory?
[05:47] <crdlb> (--) I810(0): VideoRAM: 262144 kByte << nope
[05:47] <josh__> i've got plenty of hard drive.
[05:50] <NickPresta> josh__, as for your error, you may want to check out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412973
[05:50] <josh__> Alright, I'll check it out, thank you.
[05:53] <trakinas> error 17 while dpkging linux-image
[05:54] <josh__> Alright I checked it.. I'll try what they say.. Thanks again.
[05:57] <trakinas> Im getting post instalation error 17 on dpkg
[05:57] <draik> Other than Kubuntu-desktop and Ubuntu-desktop, what else is there?
[05:58] <trakinas> draik: in desktop?
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> draik: xfce-desktop
[05:58] <draik> trakinas: Yes.
[05:58] <Dr_willis> xubuntu-desktop
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> err, that :)
[05:58] <Dr_willis> and a dozen+ other window managers
[05:59] <trakinas> fedora, mandriva, kurumin (brazilian), and many others.
[05:59] <draik> xubuntu-desktop... found that one. Is that similar Dr_willis
[05:59] <Dr_willis> some are not quite as well done/setup as others. Matchbox for example.. dont work right from the initial isntall.
[05:59] <trakinas> draik: check distro watch
[05:59] <Dr_willis> xuubntu is xfce
[05:59] <trakinas> but keep distance form Xandros and Suse.
[05:59] <draik> trakinas: I'm sorry, I thought you mean as *-desktop
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Not sure if thers a fluxbox-desktop yet
[05:59] <trakinas> ahhhh
[05:59] <trakinas> sorry
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> there is a fluxbuntu though :)
[06:00] <draik> trakinas: I go to Discrowatch.com every once in a while. Great site :)
[06:00] <Dr_willis> all the  WHATEVER-desktop packages are sets of related packages for the full desktop.
[06:00] <nzk> Why is my computer so ungodly tortuously slow? Its not even that old, and it used to work fine
[06:00] <nzk> I doubled the RAM and still problems
[06:00] <trakinas> if i had the time i would make and e17-ubuntu
[06:00] <trakinas> but e17 is almost forever beta.
[06:01] <marcelol> well....that was fun......unproductive..but fun
[06:01] <Dr_willis> trakinas,  thats been true for the last 5+ years at least. heh heh
[06:01] <trakinas> nzk: mine is okay. 512 ram and 2,3 Sempron
[06:01] <marcelol> same situation....empty screen....cursor at the upper left corner
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> marcelol: what happened?
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> hmmmm
[06:01] <nzk> Mine has 1GB of ram and a 3.46ghz P4
[06:01] <trakinas> Dr_willis: like y friend said - e17 will be gnu/hurd oficial wm
[06:01] <marcelol> lucky for me I had a backup of the xorg.conf
[06:01] <trakinas> nzk: ooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuchhhhhhhhh
[06:01] <nzk> I can't fathom why switching a window takes 5 seconds
[06:01] <nzk> trakinas, why?
[06:01] <draik> I'm currently using KDE. I have KDE (duh!) and GNOME installed. I want to get a full feel for the various desktops
[06:01] <marcelol> because when I tried the dpkg-reconfigure...it said I didn't have xserver-org installed
[06:02] <trakinas> nzk: it makes me fell im running an old machine
[06:02] <crdlb> xserver-xorg
[06:02] <Dr_willis> draik,  most are rather minimal. WindowMaker is nice.  old-skool
[06:02] <trakinas> so, what error 17 on dpkg means?
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> marcelol: its xserver-xorg
[06:02] <Dr_willis> draik,  matchbox - has issues right now. Well their kdm menu entry has issues.
[06:02] <draik> trakinas: nzk: I am feeling a small lag at times, but I'm sure it's something that I'm doing
[06:02] <marcelol> oh....duh...
[06:02] <nzk> trakinas, this makes me feel like I am running a 486
[06:02] <marcelol> <-- putz
[06:03] <trakinas> draik: how so?
[06:03] <nzk> Anything I can do to make it faster
[06:03] <draik> Dr_willis: Gotcha. Avoid matchbox
[06:03] <marcelol> anyway....it did the same thing it's always done....blank  screen..."_" in the upper left corner
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> marcelol: and yes, i assure you you have it :P
[06:03] <Dr_willis> draik,  more like - if ya want to use it.. read its docs.
[06:03] <marcelol> yeah I have it
[06:03] <draik> trakinas: I don't know. I just figure its got something to do with something I'm running.
[06:03] <draik> Dr_willis: Gotcha. Avoid matchbox
[06:03] <Dr_willis> draik,  its a real specilized desktop anyway
[06:03] <trakinas> you could look for fvwm, *box and a bunch of other wm's there are out there.
[06:03] <trakinas> freedesktop and freashmeat can give you some clue.
[06:03] <marcelol> should xerver-xgl be installed ?
[06:04] <Dr_willis> mote that MatchBox is NOT related to Fluxbox, or Blackbox or Openbox. (those 3 are related)
[06:04] <draik> I'm currently going to install xfce (xubuntu) and Edubuntu
[06:04] <Dr_willis> edubuntu is just a bunch of eduational packages
[06:04] <trakinas> why so? you can install their apps without installing the full system
[06:05] <trakinas> there's iceWM too.
[06:05] <draik> Dr_willis: I know. I'm planning on a kid and my friend is thinking about having it installed for his daughter. Either way, I'm preparing.
[06:05] <marcelol> suppose I should try nv-glx-legacy ?
[06:05] <trakinas> draik: you cant forget about tuxpaint
[06:05] <Dr_willis> my wife likes TuxPaint. :)
[06:05] <trakinas> dude! that things is insane! i think id enjoied it more than all kids on the school ive worked
[06:06] <trakinas> Dr_willis: someone here asked about mspaint-like program and i suggesteed tuxpaint
[06:06] <trakinas> he/she said it was amazing... lol
[06:06] <Dr_willis> heh..
[06:06] <Dr_willis> I want a DeluxePaint Clone.,
[06:06] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:07] <marcelol> damn...that would be the S__T.....I enjoyed DeluxePaint on my Amiga so much
[06:07] <marcelol> it's one of the things I miss from it
[06:07] <trakinas> which is the line to output msg in another language?? LC_ALL=en, for instance?
[06:07] <marcelol> straightforward.....clean interface
[06:07] <Dr_willis> marcelol,  I think theres a very similer clone or 2 like it. but aint looked into it in ages
[06:07] <Dr_willis> marcelol,  thers always the Amiga Emulators. :)
[06:07] <draik> Do I want to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04?
[06:08] <marcelol> yeah...but it's nothing like running it native
[06:08] <Dr_willis> draik,  may be best to do a clean reinstall
[06:08] <ToddEDM2> hey guys, im just getting some programs for my new install... i used to use thunderbird on windows, is there something better
[06:08] <marcelol> still has an optical mouse he got as a gift from Dale Luck
[06:08] <Dr_willis> I can still rember the old amiga shortcuts
[06:08] <marcelol> The Duck himself
[06:08] <draik> Dr_willis: Hmmm... So I guess I just skip out on the dist-upgrade
[06:08] <trakinas> ToddEDM2: thunderbird itself, if you like it
[06:08] <Dr_willis> draik,  this is linux - do what you like. :)
[06:08] <ToddEDM2> ok, i was just gonna try something new
[06:09] <draik> Dr_willis: So this is what freedom means?!
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> ToddEDM2: well, there's thunderbird on nix, plus evolution if you want a more outlook-like setup
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> ToddEDM2: and about a million other email apps
[06:09] <marcelol> yup yup
[06:09] <draik> Well, I'm going to restart and come back in xubuntu. BRB
[06:09] <ToddEDM2> what one do most use?
[06:09] <marcelol> waits patiently
[06:10] <kgx> mmm beer o'clock at work
[06:10] <marcelol> whoa......mutt...never used it, but heard of it
[06:10] <ToddEDM2> why do you use mutt hitmanWilly... anything in particular?
[06:11] <draik> I'd like to report that XFCE was a failure
[06:11] <draik> For some reason, I couldn't get in.
[06:11] <draik> Something about a failed install
[06:11] <draik> Go fig
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> ToddEDM2: i like a text interface
[06:11] <marcelol> So should I like try out the nv legacy drivers ?
[06:11] <ToddEDM2> ok
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> ToddEDM2: i wouldn't reccomend it unless you know how to set up fetchmail / smtp
[06:13] <trakinas> http://pastebin.ca/567839
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> marcelol: give it a try i guess...make sure you wipe the current nvidia-glx ones first
[06:13] <ToddEDM2> yeah, im a windows user trying go get rid of it... so im gui all the way
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> ToddEDM2: what do you want...more features or light weight?
[06:14] <ToddEDM2> light weight
[06:14] <marcelol> well...adept will uninstall them no ?
[06:14] <trakinas> ToddEDM2: but you should not fear the command line. and not avoid it. ;] 
[06:14] <marcelol> when it switches  I mean
[06:14] <ToddEDM2> and user friendly gui
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> ToddEDM2: id say just kmail then
[06:14] <ToddEDM2> trakinas im trying
[06:14] <marcelol> though seems other have gotten it to work....
[06:14] <marcelol> strange
[06:15] <trakinas> ToddEDM2: good! :] ] 
[06:15] <ToddEDM2> ok kmail it is...
[06:15] <trakinas> i found some operations faster and easier to do on text mode.
[06:15] <stratos> Requesting help with configuring my Dual Monitors.  Currently my primary screen and my secondary screens are mix matched and I am trying to figure out how to swap them.
[06:15] <trakinas> like renaming and moving files from dirs.
[06:15] <trakinas> !dual screen
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <trakinas> =(
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> marcelol: id reccomend purging them through dpkg, probably a safer bet
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> !xinerama
[06:16] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[06:16] <trakinas> so, anyone? http://pastebin.ca/567839
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> !dual head
[06:16] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[06:16] <marcelol> oh....
[06:16] <marcelol> ok...
[06:16] <marcelol> also....I remember when I booted to the recovery console and tried editing xorg.conf by hand
[06:17] <marcelol> when I did "startx &" it said something about not being able to load the kernel module
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> marcelol: its usually a better bet to completely wipe out drivers when doing a rollback
[06:18] <marcelol> ok....Hmmm
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> marcelol: ? that means it probably didn't install correctly
[06:18] <marcelol> ahhhhhh
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> marcelol: oh wait, safe mode? it may not even load nvidia on startup
[06:18] <stratos> Requesting help with configuring my Dual Monitors.  Currently my primary screen and my secondary screens are mix matched and I am trying to figure out how to swap them.
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> !dual head | stratos
[06:19] <ubotu> stratos: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> !xinerama | stratos
[06:20] <ubotu> stratos: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[06:20] <marcelol> hitmanWilly : yeah...the recovery console
[06:20] <stratos> hitmanWilly: i want to use beryl with my dual screens though
[06:20] <marcelol> so it didn't load it...that makes sense now...it still didn't work staight booting
[06:20] <marcelol> so purge the package in aptitude
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> marcelol: im not sure what the recovery image loads off the top of my head
[06:21] <marcelol> and then install the legacy one ?
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> marcelol: yeah, try that
[06:21] <ToddEDM2> konqueror or firefox??
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> stratos: maybe try in #beryl?
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> stratos: or #ubuntu-effects
[06:22] <stratos> hitmanWilly: i'll try ubuntu-effects thank you
[06:22] <trakinas> ToddEDM2: if you like firefox in windows, why not?
[06:22] <trakinas> konqueror sometimes displays y gmail account wrongly. go fig.
[06:23] <ToddEDM2> does konqueror have anything firefox doesnt?
[06:23] <calamari> hi
[06:23] <trakinas> ToddEDM2: Im not sure.
[06:23] <calamari> does kde have an applet similar to gnome's drawer?
[06:23] <erichj> jeez, arguing with a mac addict is worse than reading one of linus's rants
[06:23] <trakinas> calamari: i dont know. i never used dawer in gnome, though. =(
[06:23] <trakinas> erichj: lol!
[06:24] <trakinas> never had the opportunities
[06:24] <marcelol> purging it now
[06:24] <ToddEDM2> firefox it is then
[06:24] <trakinas> * opportunitie
[06:24] <erichj> opportunity
[06:24] <jacques> hi there
[06:25] <jacques> Do I need to install the ati driver in feisty?
[06:25] <trakinas> erichj: thanks
[06:25] <calamari> trakinas: it's kinda nifty.. you can open the drawer and have a bunch of apps there
[06:25] <marcelol> hitmanWilly: purged nvidia-glx
[06:25] <marcelol> not to adept and install the legacy ones
[06:25] <trakinas> calamari: i know. i just never used
[06:25] <trakinas> =P
[06:26] <trakinas> can anyone help me?
[06:26] <trakinas> http://pastebin.ca/567839
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> ok, brb
[06:29] <marcelol> what was that command to turn on glx in the xorg.conf ???
[06:30] <marcelol>  something something....argb....something something
[06:31] <stdin> jacques: depends. It will run without it, but you won't have hardware accelerated 3d. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI tells you how to install it. Use the Edgy instructions for Kubuntu Feisty
[06:32] <jacques> But now I am able to use beryl
[06:32] <jacques> the problem I have is that I can not change the refresh rate
[06:33] <ToddEDM2> this adept installter and synaptic are the same basically , right ?
[06:33] <stdin> jacques: you'll get better help in  #ubuntu-effects
[06:34] <stdin> ToddEDM2: they do the same job, yes
[06:34] <ToddEDM2> ok thank you
[06:35] <marcelol> what's the command to enable glx within the nvidia driver ?
[06:36] <jacques> yes but they are speaking of a restricted driver manager. I can not see it under system applications
[06:37] <stdin> jacques: Like I said, use the Edgy instructions
[06:38] <stdin> marcelol: "sudo nvidia-xconfig"  maybe
[06:38] <marcelol> that's to enable the driver..
[06:38] <marcelol> I'm talking about how to add the setting for enabling glx
[06:38] <stdin> that should do it
[06:39] <marcelol> wb hitmanWilly
[06:40] <stdin> marcelol: or look at:
[06:40] <stdin> http://tinyurl.com/of644
[06:44] <ToddEDM2> im sure liking the feel of kde over gnome
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> ToddEDM2: you're in good company then :)
[06:46] <stdin> remember too, that you can use Gnome apps on KDE (and vice-versa)
[06:46] <marcelol> ok....removed glx-legacy  as well..
[06:46] <marcelol> gonna reboot
[06:46] <marcelol>  and then install the regular "non-new" glx driver
[06:46] <marcelol> brb
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> or in any WM/DE for that matter
[06:47] <julius> could someoen help me with this guide: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.ph..._DVB-T_777_PCI
[06:47] <ToddEDM2> stdin: i like the menus and actually i like the progress bars for some reason
[06:47] <ToddEDM2> hahaha
[06:47] <ToddEDM2> lets me know something is working
[06:47] <ToddEDM2> i guess
[06:48] <stdin> I don't like gnome just because it's brown :p
[06:48] <stdin> j/k
[06:48] <ToddEDM2> lol
[06:48] <stdin> julius: maybe if you post the actual link to the guide
[06:48] <marcelol> I don't like Gnome because someone associated with it has a "Monkey fixation"
[06:48] <zyf> what's this?
[06:49] <marcelol> ok
[06:49] <marcelol> gonna reboot clean
[06:49] <marcelol> and try at this one more time...
[06:49] <stdin> zyf: what's what?
[06:50] <zyf> what's IRC chat?
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> zyf: its what you're doing right now :)
[06:51] <stdin> zyf: it's a way to communicate, like a chat room
[06:51] <trakinas> stdin: change the theme. =P
[06:51] <stdin> zyf: you're in the #kubuntu channel now (all channels start with a '#')
[06:51] <trakinas> zyf: this
[06:51] <zyf> oh
[06:51] <julius> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.ph..._DVB-T_777_PCI
[06:52] <julius> my bad lol
[06:52] <stdin> trakinas: I haven't used gnome since they started sending kubuntu CD through shipit
[06:52] <stdin> julius: still not the full link (see the '...' part)
[06:52] <julius> ah
[06:52] <julius> lol
[06:52] <julius> stdin: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/AVerMedia_AVerTV_DVB-T_777_PCI
[06:53] <stdin> zyf: the #kubuntu channel is used to get support on anything kubuntu
[06:53] <julius> if im using kubuntu can i get general ubuntu support? :P #ubuntu is busy as and -au is quiet
[06:53] <zyf> thank you
[06:53] <trakinas> julius: regardless it isnt gnome questions.... =x
[06:54] <julius> all i need to know is about the kernel section
[06:54] <julius> also if i have a fullscreen app say ET how do i alt tab out of it
[06:54] <julius> is there a special command for KDE?
[06:55] <marcelol> ok
[06:55] <trakinas> julius: i dont know.
[06:56] <trakinas> maybe alt+f2 if you cnofigured it to change between desktops
[06:56] <marcelol> hitmanWilly: What was that command to turn on the glx options in xorg.conf ?
[06:56] <trakinas> but between screens, i dunno.
[06:56] <julius> nah not dual screens, just like if i have it full screen to minimize it
[06:56] <marcelol> also....I've got both 20.16 and 20.15 kernels in my grub menu...should I be selecting 16 or 15 ?
[06:56] <stdin> julius: don't worry about the kernel part, the default ubuntu kernel has that all enabled already
[06:56] <julius> stdin: sweet
[06:56] <draik> Jucato: Hello.
[06:56] <julius> stdin: ill see how i go then ;)
[06:57] <draik> Jucato: I managed to get XFCE (xubuntu) installed
[06:57] <draik> Jucato: For some reason, Edubuntu isn't an option for my sessions
[06:58] <stdin> marcelol: use the latest, 2.6.20-16
[06:59] <hitmanWilly> marcelol: 16
[06:59] <hitmanWilly> marcelol: nvidia-xconfig
[07:00] <That_Halfling> Having a problem trying to install, after the kernel loads it just boots to a blank screen with my cap lock key flashing any ideas?
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> marcelol: make sure that works first
[07:00] <marcelol> ok.....did that...I'm talking about the other command to add the extra "argb" option
[07:00] <marcelol> ok...I'll do that
[07:00] <marcelol> brb
[07:02] <That_Halfling> No idea?
[07:02] <ToddEDM2> what is a good program to get .mp3s?
[07:02] <ToddEDM2> something lite , i only get 1 or 2 songs a month
[07:02] <trakinas> ToddEDM2: nicotine+
[07:02] <trakinas> or in kde, museeq
[07:03] <stdin> or don't use mp3 at all :)
[07:03] <stdin> flac or ogg/vorbis ftw
[07:03] <trakinas> yay!
[07:04] <ToddEDM2> ok stdin, got a lite program that downloads them?
[07:04] <trakinas> ToddEDM2: museeq
[07:04] <trakinas> =P
[07:04] <stdin> I just rip my CDs in to them
[07:05] <stdin> I'd never download mp3's illegally ;)
[07:05] <trakinas> i always did. since napster. =(
[07:05] <stdin> tho...
[07:05] <stdin> !p2p
[07:05] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[07:05] <ToddEDM2> museeq it is
[07:05] <trakinas> but most of the cds i bought since then were due to p2p. ;] 
[07:06] <ToddEDM2> stdin for 1-2 songs that i get i cant imagine buying the CDs
[07:06] <trakinas> ToddEDM2: museeq ftw
[07:06] <ToddEDM2> only time i listen to music is in the car, and thats why i got satellite radio
[07:07] <stdin> !info museeq
[07:07] <ubotu> museeq: Qt client for museekd. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.12-2 (feisty), package size 465 kB, installed size 1520 kB
[07:07] <trakinas> it is soulseek compatible
[07:07] <marcelol> rebooting...brb
[07:08] <ToddEDM2> i used to use soulseek, years ago, but then it was gone
[07:08] <trakinas> ToddEDM2: no it didnt. =P
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm more of a nicotine+ fan
[07:08] <trakinas> it is up and running.
[07:08] <trakinas> Daisuke_Ido: museeq is only nicotine+ for qt
[07:08] <trakinas> i do prefer nicotine+
[07:09] <Daisuke_Ido> trakinas: right, but there's something i don't like about museeq, can't quite put my finger on it
[07:09] <ToddEDM2> i came back trakinas
[07:09] <ToddEDM2> it came back
[07:09] <trakinas> Daisuke_Ido: heehheheh.
[07:10] <trakinas> hey there again
[07:10] <ToddEDM2> used to be web based i think, cant remember
[07:10] <trakinas> audiogalaxy
[07:10] <trakinas> i miss it.
[07:10] <trakinas> a lot. =((((
[07:11] <trakinas> most of my music taste was built thanks to audiogalaxy.
[07:11] <c0rrupt> hiya
[07:12] <c0rrupt> just installed fiesty fawn and im having some video problems
[07:12] <c0rrupt> if i boot normally
[07:12] <c0rrupt> .. then i never see anything displayed, only black
[07:13] <c0rrupt> however, if i go into the recovery console then do startx.. it loads up perfectly
[07:13] <c0rrupt> 	Device		"Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device"
[07:13] <julius> new guide i need help with ;) http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/AVerMedia_AVerTV_Hybrid-FM_PCI
[07:14] <trakinas> we should count how many time people complains about intel vg cards; =P
[07:14] <stdin> hmm, 845G I got one of those in my (now) sever
[07:15] <stdin> c0rrupt: you could try reconfiguring the X server (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) that will remake the config file for X
[07:15] <c0rrupt> ok, ill try that
[07:15] <c0rrupt> i had video problems before
[07:16] <c0rrupt> about 6-7 months ago on kubuntu 5.0 ish
[07:16] <c0rrupt> and i had an xorg.conf backed up
[07:16] <c0rrupt> that i knew worked
[07:16] <c0rrupt> so im using that atm
[07:16] <stdin> intel chips never gave me any greife
[07:16] <c0rrupt> Hmm
[07:16] <ToddEDM2> hey how can i change the resolution of my desktop?
[07:16] <stdin> !resolution | ToddEDM2
[07:16] <ubotu> ToddEDM2: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:16] <c0rrupt> my laptop's video driver is really crappy
[07:16] <c0rrupt> ok gonna try the cmd
[07:16] <stdin> intel diver it great, it's GPL
[07:17] <c0rrupt> er not driver sorry
[07:17] <c0rrupt> just the hardware itself
[07:17] <c0rrupt> always had probs with it
[07:17] <c0rrupt> lol
[07:17] <trakinas> ToddEDM2: left click on desktop --> configure --> change it
[07:17] <stdin> well, that chip isn't so great :p
[07:17] <trakinas> if there isnt the res you want, follow those instructions
[07:17] <ToddEDM2> i dont see an option to change it
[07:18] <crweb> my usb totally died...
[07:18] <trakinas> my bad
[07:19] <stdin> system settings -> Display
[07:19] <icecruncher> crwebL your usb what
[07:19] <trakinas> ToddEDM2: system config --> video
[07:19] <crweb> on my motherboard
[07:20] <icecruncher> suck
[07:20] <crweb> sucks.  usb hubs won't work.  Keyboards, and mice are fine though
[07:20] <crweb> no storage, no hubs, no printers
[07:20] <CrypTom> hi all, since feisty I've got strange screen resolutions. Is there a way to change this? I'm using a laptop (sometimes with the internal display 1024*768, sometimes with an external tft with 1280x1024). In my xorg.conf I've only listed 1024x768 and 1280x1024, but when I change from external tft to internal (with full reboot), I get 1024*1024 !
[07:20] <ToddEDM2> thanks trakinas stdin
[07:20] <ToddEDM2> 1024x768 is all i got .. hmm
[07:21] <CrypTom> So I have to manually change the resolution twice a day..
[07:21] <trakinas> ToddEDM2: how is your maximum?
[07:21] <trakinas> i mean, you know it can do
[07:21] <c0rrupt> hmm stdin still not workin ;\
[07:21] <mick_home> hi everyone
[07:21] <ToddEDM2> that is my max
[07:22] <mick_home> i just installed kubuntu (feisty) and all is well until i start the box and it tries to start X. I just get a black screen :-/
[07:22] <trakinas> ToddEDM2: ahhh! so nothing wrong with it?
[07:22] <crweb> also, the installer won't run from my disc
[07:22] <stdin> c0rrupt: can you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to pastebin?
[07:22] <icecruncher> crweb: try the alternate cd
[07:22] <c0rrupt> sure
[07:22] <trakinas> mick_home: wichi card?
[07:22] <CrypTom> And when I've changed it manually from 1024x1024 down to 1024x768, I have to manually change it to 1280x1024 when booting with the external tft. xorg.conf is only used for kdm
[07:22] <mick_home> ctrl+alt+F# keys don't work
[07:22] <crweb> icecruncher: this are the cd's i ordered online
[07:22] <ToddEDM2> doesnt it get any higher?
[07:22] <mick_home> trakinas: english?
[07:22] <icecruncher> crweb: hm, wierd
[07:22] <c0rrupt> stdin, http://nopaste.com/p/aSr0ahj5rb
[07:23] <crweb> lots of python errors
[07:23] <trakinas> mick_home: which. sorry.
[07:23] <trakinas> typo
[07:23] <stdin> c0rrupt: there is another way "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" allows you to just change the resolutions available, you'll need to restart KDM after tho
[07:23] <crweb> http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=37223
[07:23] <CrypTom> ToddEDM2: was you question directed to me?
[07:23] <c0rrupt> what makes you think its a resolution problem
[07:23] <mick_home> not sure - it is a laptop from HP... i see an nvidia sticker on it
[07:24] <mick_home> trakinas: ^^^
[07:24] <trakinas> mick_home: lspsi on konsole
[07:24] <mick_home> i can't
[07:24] <trakinas> mick_home: change ttys dont work here too
[07:24] <trakinas> on console then
[07:24] <mick_home> i can't do anything on the kb
[07:25] <trakinas> mick_home: neither access textmode?
[07:25] <ToddEDM2> anyone CrypTom... doenst resolution go higher than 1024x768
[07:25] <trakinas> ToddEDM2: my maximum is 1280x1024. 17"
[07:26] <trakinas> mick_home: kb = keyboard?
[07:26] <marcelol> this is MOST disconcerting
[07:26] <marcelol> it just won't switch over
[07:26] <icecruncher> crwebL no idea sorry
[07:26] <mick_home> trakinas: kb == keyboard
[07:27] <trakinas> i see..
[07:27] <mick_home> i just get a black screen and i can't ctrl + alt + F# :-/
[07:27] <mick_home> i'm returning this thing to the store tomarrow
[07:27] <stdin> c0rrupt: hmm, this is what my one looks like (the one with the same chip as yours, just change the resolutions and it should work)
[07:27] <marcelol> hitmanWilly : removed (purged) all nvidia packages except nvidia-kernel-common ( which I presume is the default "nv" driver support ? )
[07:27] <trakinas> which thing? the laptop?
[07:28] <mick_home> Vista was buggy as hell, so i tried Debian (same black screen thing), same problem w/ Ubuntu
[07:28] <mick_home> trakinas: yup
[07:28] <trakinas> mick_home: ohhhh... live cd didnt boot?
[07:28] <mick_home> i blamed Vista for crashing every 3 minutes
[07:28] <mick_home> didn't try it
[07:28] <mick_home> no i actually installed it
[07:28] <c0rrupt> ?
[07:28] <trakinas> hmmmmmm. i thought you've tried kubuntu live cd
[07:28] <mick_home> nope
[07:28] <c0rrupt> stdin, change them to -what-
[07:28] <mick_home> alternative
[07:29] <trakinas> ahhhhhh
[07:29] <trakinas> i see..
[07:29] <trakinas> well.... id like to help you, but i have to go to bed
[07:29] <trakinas> 02:30
[07:29] <trakinas> =/
[07:29] <mick_home> after the install it first started to hang w/ the progress bar, then on reboot the progress bar went all the way to the end
[07:29] <trakinas> cheers all
[07:29] <stdin> c0rrupt: to the ones you want, mine is set to be at 1600x1200, unless you want that resolutuion
[07:29] <marcelol> anyone else here used the nvidia-glx drivers and had problems switching over from default one ?
[07:29] <mick_home> same here
[07:29] <mick_home> middle of the night :-/
[07:29] <c0rrupt> max my laptop supports
[07:30] <trakinas> Im really tired.. :/
[07:30] <trakinas> cheers all
[07:30] <c0rrupt> is 1024x768
[07:30] <mick_home> night
[07:30] <c0rrupt> thats pretty much the only res i can use
[07:30] <c0rrupt> anything lower looks rediculous
[07:30] <c0rrupt> its wierd that it works perfectly in recovery console
[07:31] <ToddEDM2> c0rrupt i can only use up to 1024
[07:31] <ToddEDM2> also
[07:31] <erichj> 1280x800 here
[07:31] <stdin> c0rrupt: just change all the "1600x1200" to "1024x768", backup your xorg.conf, then test my one out
[07:31] <erichj> what video cards you guys using?
[07:31] <c0rrupt> there is no 1600 dude
[07:32] <erichj> you add it
[07:32] <ToddEDM2> NV go6100
[07:32] <c0rrupt> http://nopaste.com/p/aSr0ahj5rb
[07:32] <c0rrupt>          Modes                "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[07:32] <c0rrupt> ?
[07:32] <ToddEDM2> i havent installed any drivers or anything
[07:32] <erichj> add the res you want to it
[07:32] <erichj> !nividia
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nividia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <c0rrupt> did u post a link to urs or something
[07:33] <erichj> !info nvidia
[07:33] <ubotu> Package nvidia does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:33] <ToddEDM2> !nvidia
[07:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:33] <emonkey-f> erichj, i too much
[07:33] <erichj> there you go
[07:33] <ToddEDM2> lol
[07:33] <stdin> c0rrupt: heh, I meant in this one http://stdin.pastebin.us/37434 :)
[07:33] <c0rrupt> okay thanks
[07:34] <erichj> mine is an intel gma950(laptop)
[07:34] <erichj> open drivers....mmmm
[07:34] <rodrigo> hello, which is the command to install gnome desktop I have kubuntu
[07:34] <erichj> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:34] <Jucato> rodrigo: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[07:35] <ToddEDM2> heres a lil question for you all ... what is your favofite firefox plugin???
[07:35] <erichj> adblocker plus
[07:35] <ToddEDM2> mine must be foxmarks
[07:35] <erichj> and greasemonkey
[07:36] <erichj> it's a tie, can't live without either
[07:36] <rodrigo> what180 mb!!
[07:36] <rodrigo> and then 780 mb?
[07:36] <ToddEDM2> erichj what does greasemonkkey do ?
[07:37] <rodrigo> is this normal thats the desktop size?
[07:37] <c0rrupt> trying your config
[07:37] <josephberte> hi
[07:37] <erichj> ToddEDM2: it allows you to script events for sites. if a site doesn't function how you would like it to. just create a script and let greasemonkey do it for you
[07:37] <c0rrupt> damn, stdin same issue
[07:37] <c0rrupt> blank screen
[07:37] <stdin> I had a big monitor, it's not supposed to be used on a laptop
[07:38] <c0rrupt> but works from recovery console
[07:38] <ToddEDM2> hmm
[07:38] <c0rrupt> er
[07:38] <c0rrupt> rrrr
[07:38] <c0rrupt> Niceee
[07:38] <c0rrupt> i see a mouse!
[07:38] <stdin> c0rrupt: ok, post /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin
[07:38] <c0rrupt> haha
[07:38] <c0rrupt> nah it worked
[07:38] <c0rrupt> took soooo long
[07:38] <stdin> ahh :p
[07:38] <torchwood04_> Okay, I need some help
[07:38] <c0rrupt> what happened to the debug output/ loading screen?
[07:38] <torchwood04_> I just installed Kubuntu 7.40 on my Macintosh
[07:39] <Nergar> hello
[07:39] <c0rrupt> lol its blank again
[07:39] <marcelol> anyone else have issues with nvidia-glx on a laptop ?
[07:39] <erichj> i use it to remove menus items on ebay that i don't use, stuff like that.
[07:39] <c0rrupt> wtf is goin on here ;p
[07:39] <torchwood04_> I had reFIT installed, but I guess Grub took over and now I can't boot OSX
[07:39] <torchwood04_> Is there any way I can boot it without having to use my OSX DVD
[07:40] <tahsin> can anyone help me install my graphics driver ?
[07:40] <marcelol> you and me both, tahsin
[07:40] <tahsin> Nvidia tnt2 riva
[07:40] <rodrigo> thanks another doubt how do  I arrange the icons trough KDE?
[07:40] <torchwood04_> card info? os?
[07:40] <torchwood04_> tahsin
[07:40] <rodrigo> like in windows arrage by type time etc.
[07:40] <torchwood04_> specs?
[07:40] <torchwood04_> You need to tell us that info so we can help you tahsin
[07:40] <tahsin> nvdia riva tnt2
[07:41] <marcelol> try here first, tahsin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:41] <erichj> tahsin: you will have to use an older nvidia driver
[07:41] <marcelol> you'll probably have to load the nvidia "legacy" drivers
[07:41] <erichj> nvidia no longer supports your card
[07:41] <tahsin> yeah how ?
[07:41] <tahsin> then what do i do ?
[07:41] <erichj> click the link and follow the directions
[07:42] <torchwood04_> Also, I was trying to install Unreal 2k4 on Kubuntu, and it said uncompressing failed on the install app
[07:42] <tahsin> ok
[07:42] <c0rrupt> stdin
[07:42] <c0rrupt> in that logfile i see
[07:42] <c0rrupt> "fatal server error:"
[07:42] <erichj> torchwood04_: you might need to install ark
[07:42] <c0rrupt> "lockup"
[07:42] <c0rrupt> lol
[07:42] <c0rrupt> pasting
[07:42] <rodrigo> Jucato: hey thanks for the page another doubt how do  I arrange the icons trough KDE?
[07:42] <torchwood04_> what is ark? shall I google?
[07:42] <torchwood04_> thanks erichj
[07:42] <Jucato> rodrigo: what do you mean?
[07:43] <erichj> torchwood04_: it adds support for other compression formats that linux doesn't come with since they are non-free
[07:43] <rodrigo> Jucato: like in windows when you want the icons get in order by size by type by time etc.
[07:43] <c0rrupt> http://nopaste.com/p/ahJqyKqNe
[07:43] <Jucato> rodrigo: where? in Konqueror?
[07:43] <rodrigo> mmm I guess so
[07:43] <Jucato> erichj: er.. that's not right.....
[07:43] <Jucato> rodrigo: View menu -> Sort by
[07:44] <rodrigo> Jucato: Oh, ok I'm used to the left click menu thanks for the info pal :-)
[07:44] <erichj> wait you are right
[07:44] <erichj> it's not ark, hold on
[07:44] <c0rrupt> stdin, http://nopaste.com/p/ahJqyKqNe
[07:44] <stdin> looking...
[07:44] <c0rrupt> k
[07:44] <torchwood04_> oh, yeah, because all i found was arklinux
[07:44] <c0rrupt> thanks
[07:44] <Jucato> torchwood04_: Ark is the archiving tool installed by default. It can handle different archive files *depending* on the utilities that are installed
[07:45] <rodrigo> Jucato: Oh, here is sort by not arrange icons by
[07:45] <torchwood04_> the file in question is called 'linux-installer.sh'
[07:45] <c0rrupt> first link on google:
[07:45] <Jucato> torchwood04_: Ark needs backend (background) utilities for handling different archive formats.
[07:45] <c0rrupt> "Fatal server error: lockup with i810 - info. Help needed."
[07:45] <c0rrupt> lol
[07:45] <c0rrupt> sounds like me
[07:46] <Jucato> torchwood04_: er.... that's not something you need to uncompress. I'm guessing there's something wrong with the installer
[07:46] <erichj> you want to install support for rar, ace, 7zip
[07:46] <torchwood04_> Ark is installed in Kubuntu, I just checked
[07:46] <c0rrupt>         Option          "XaaNoSolidFillRect" "On" ?
[07:46] <torchwood04_> jucato, ugh uhoh
[07:46] <Jucato> erichj: no. it's the installer that's having problems uncompressing its own stuff
[07:46] <erichj> ooh
[07:46] <Jucato> unless... hm...
[07:46] <c0rrupt>         Option          "XaaNoScanlineCPUToScreenColorExpandFill" "On"
[07:46] <c0rrupt> gonna try that
[07:46] <erichj> torchwood04_: did you run it as sudo
[07:47] <torchwood04_> i dunno, i'm new at linux sorry
[07:47] <stdin> c0rrupt: you could try, never saw that perticular error before
[07:47] <torchwood04_> i doubt it though
[07:47] <erichj> sudo sh <name>.sh
[07:47] <torchwood04_> you mean change the file name to that?
[07:47] <erichj> no
[07:47] <torchwood04_> in terminal
[07:47] <Jucato> no
[07:47] <torchwood04_> oh ok
[07:48] <torchwood04_> er not
[07:48] <erichj> sudo sh linux-installer.sh
[07:48] <torchwood04_> ok, hold on, let me try
[07:49] <rodrigo> Jucato: Mmmm ok, please answer me does the desktop matters to install a linux program?
[07:49] <Jucato> rodrigo: I don't understand what you're saying
[07:49] <torchwood04_> okay, wait, how do i open terminal?
[07:49] <torchwood04_> again, sorry for my newbie-ness, i'm used to osx and xp
[07:49] <rodrigo> Jucato: Let me explain when I go to the install programs I see a lot with the gnome name
[07:49] <Jucato> torchwood04_: Alt+Space, type "Konsole"
[07:49] <erichj> menu - > system -> konsole
[07:50] <Jucato> torchwood04_: then you'll probably love Katapult
[07:50] <erichj> rodrigo: if you want to install a gnome app, you will have to retrieve things it depends on
[07:50] <c0rrupt> no luck
[07:50] <c0rrupt> ;\
[07:50] <Jucato> rodrigo: ah it doesn't matter. GNOME apps will run in KDE and vice-versa
[07:50] <torchwood04_> lol
[07:50] <torchwood04_> okay trying now
[07:50] <Jucato> erichj: he doesn't have to. the package manager does that automatically
[07:51] <erichj> rodrigo: if you are using apt-get it will dowload them automatically
[07:51] <erichj> Jucato: yeah well he might compile from source
[07:51] <torchwood04_> You people rock! It got the installer screen!
[07:51] <torchwood04_> Thank you ever so much
[07:51] <erichj> welcome
[07:51] <rodrigo> Jucato: oh ok so the gnome and kde are just the desktop the interfase but it doesn't really matter for running the programs, Am I right?
[07:51] <sivaji>  hi
[07:52] <Jucato> rodrigo: yes. it doesn't really matter.
[07:52] <rodrigo> Jucato: even if the program have gnome in it's name
[07:52] <torchwood04_> okay, i'm stuck [again] 
[07:52] <torchwood04_> i scrolled all the way down for the license agreement
[07:52] <rodrigo> Jucato: dude thanks for the info
[07:52] <torchwood04_> and the only option i see is exit
[07:53] <rodrigo> Jucato: I was just about spendit lke a giga only for a misinformation
[07:53] <rodrigo> Jucato: spent
[07:54] <rodrigo> I'm also re practicing my english thanks to linux
[07:54] <rodrigo> Jucato: I'm also re practicing my english thanks to linux
[07:54] <torchwood04_> never mind, i figured it out
[07:54] <Jucato> rodrigo: Spanish or Portuguese? (there are channels for those)
[07:54] <torchwood04_> what is "would you like to install symbolic links to a directory in your path?"
[07:55] <torchwood04_> yes or no?
[07:56] <jerware> hi
[07:56] <rodrigo> Jucato: spanish
[07:56] <Jucato> !es | rodrigo
[07:56] <ubotu> rodrigo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:57] <rodrigo>  !es
[07:57] <rodrigo> !es |
[07:57] <rodrigo> !es | rodrigo
[07:57] <Jucato> rodrigo: you don't have to do that
[07:57] <Jucato> the !es just calls the channel bot
[07:57] <marcelol> shazam...she workie !
[07:57] <Jucato> and shows the factoid for Spanish
[07:57] <Jucato> Spanish channels
[07:57] <torchwood04_> Wow, i love linux :P
[07:57] <marcelol> weird though...had to restart X 3 times for it to really pick up my resolution
[07:58] <marcelol> very eh-strange
[07:58] <sivaji> what is the latest  version linux kernel
[07:58] <rodrigo> Jucato: sorry friend I don't know to much about of commands
[07:58] <rodrigo> too much
[07:59] <torchwood04_> the latest linux kernel version is..
[07:59] <torchwood04_> 2.6.21.5
[08:00] <rodrigo> Jucato: well time to go to sleep thanks for the help if you see daskreech send my saluts
[08:00] <rodrigo> see ya guys
[08:01] <torchwood04_> as of 11 june 2007
[08:01] <torchwood04_> fyi sivaji
[08:01] <torchwood04_> Wow, Linux is so fast
[08:01] <torchwood04_> Unreal 2k4 would have taken longer to install on Windows
[08:02] <torchwood04_> bye
[08:02] <marcelol> anybody encounter problems with the Emerald themer trying to retrieve themes "Error calling tar" ?
[08:04] <Hobbsee> !beryl | marcelol
[08:04] <sivaji> what is that fyi
[08:04] <Hobbsee> !ping
[08:04] <Hobbsee> bot is lagging....
[08:05] <ubotu> marcelol: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:05] <ubotu> pong
[08:05] <sivaji> torchwood04_  what is that fyi
[08:05] <torchwood04_> SIVAJI, for your info
[08:05] <torchwood04_> sorry
[08:05] <sivaji> torchwood04_  ok ok
[08:06] <torchwood04_> err, unreal 2k4 got a write failure for the second time :(
[08:06] <torchwood04_> [the second install] 
[08:06] <torchwood04_> ugh, i'm having a bad day lol
[08:07] <torchwood04_> write failure on /usr/local/games/ut2004//Sounds/IntroSounds.u
[08:08] <marcelol> Hobbsee : I'm not sure I understand....
[08:08] <torchwood04_> can i manually copy->paste all the files?
[08:08] <Hobbsee> marcelol: emerald is part of beryl, help for beryl is in #ubuntu-effects.  type /j #ubuntu-effects
[08:09] <marcelol> OHmmm
[08:09] <marcelol> I switched to Beryl and all of a sudden my window decorations went Bye Bye
[08:11] <torchwood04_> okay, thanks again all, ill figure out the rest myself re:unreal2k4
[08:11] <torchwood04_> also, um, i did have a problem trying to start into osx again
[08:11] <torchwood04_> before i installed kubuntu, i installed reFIT as teh bootloader
[08:11] <torchwood04_> but, kubuntu seems to have replaced that with grub
[08:12] <torchwood04_> and grub does not see my osx partition
[08:12] <marcelol> How do I get my decorators back...I tried reloading them, and it didn't take
[08:15] <Nergar> anyone know how can i install resmgr, so i can compile k3b from source
[08:16] <Nergar> ???
[08:16] <torchwood04_> also, how do i switch to root to copy files into a folder that only root controls
[08:18] <Nergar> hello?
[08:19] <torchwood04_> nergar be patient
[08:19] <torchwood04_> I am
[08:19] <torchwood04_> please*
[08:19] <Nergar> :p
[08:23] <julius> torchwood: sudo
[08:23] <julius> sudo command
[08:23] <torchwood04_> the app requires root
[08:23] <julius> or sudo -i to loginto root
[08:24] <julius> http://www.avermedia.com/cgi-bin/support_driverbympdpro.asp?category=TV%20Card&category2=Hybrid&proname=12&modelno=A16AR   which driver should i use
[08:24] <torchwood04_> thanks julius, let me try
[08:26] <sivaji> hi stdin
[08:26] <torchwood04_> How do I switch into /usr/local/games in terminal
[08:26] <torchwood04_> i tried ./usr/local/games
[08:26] <sivaji> cd
[08:26] <stdin> hey sivaji
[08:27] <stdin> cd = change directory :)
[08:27] <sivaji> torchwood04_  cd  /usr/local/games
[08:27] <torchwood04_> WOW! I did not know I could use my DOS knowledge!
[08:27] <torchwood04_> rofl
[08:27] <stdin> umm, DOS uses cd too
[08:28] <torchwood04_> stdin, umm, i know that
[08:28] <torchwood04_> lol
[08:28] <stdin> no, that was a question :p just with out the '?'
[08:28] <torchwood04_> oh
[08:28] <torchwood04_> well, yes it does :P
[08:28] <stdin> I haven't used DOS is about 10 years, so it's foggy
[08:29] <torchwood04_> lol
[08:29] <sivaji> torchwood04_ kiddo
[08:29] <torchwood04_> sivaji, huh?
[08:29] <torchwood04_> Why are you calling me kiddo?
[08:29] <torchwood04_> I'm just new at Linux
[08:30] <sivaji> u need not say that we can identify
[08:30] <torchwood04_> ?
[08:30] <sivaji> torchwood04_ may i know why u r using linux , y dont  u use windows
[08:30] <torchwood04_> anyway, i give up with unreal, it worked on windows, so i guess ill just stick with it on windows
[08:31] <torchwood04_> sivaji, i don't want windows on my mac
[08:31] <torchwood04_> so, i wanted to use linux for some of my games
[08:31] <torchwood04_> so i do not have to switch to my windows machine
[08:31] <torchwood04_> but sadly i still do
[08:32] <torchwood04_> so yeah :(
[08:32] <erichj> use bootcamp
[08:32] <marcelol> well that was productive
[08:33] <torchwood04_> erichj, i know what bootcamp is, i do not want windows on my macintosh :P
[08:34] <torchwood04_> but, sadly, i'm switching back to osx
[08:34] <kent> hi can someone help me change the permissions on my external drive
[08:34] <torchwood04_> linux is too hard for me
[08:34] <stdin> hay sivaji, I got in to the konvi svn :) with a script I made :D
[08:34] <stdin> sivaji: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=60418
[08:34] <erichj> that is a shame, because mac os is the tool of the devil
[08:35] <torchwood04_> and windows is not?
[08:35] <erichj> mac is worse than windows when it comes to locking you into formats
[08:35] <erichj> you basically use what steve jobs says is ok
[08:35] <torchwood04_> the tool as well?
[08:35] <torchwood04_> lol
[08:35] <torchwood04_> um no
[08:36] <torchwood04_> There are many stupid mac users who WILL
[08:36] <erichj> yes...there are many stupid mac users
[08:36] <torchwood04_> blindly pre-order a new freakin' minor upgrade of  osx for 130! :X
[08:36] <torchwood04_> usd
[08:36] <torchwood04_> 130 usd*
[08:36] <torchwood04_> those users make me so mad
[08:36] <torchwood04_> they're upgrading just because ZOMG the desktop is translucent!
[08:37] <torchwood04_> and because yes, steve jobs gives it to them
[08:37] <torchwood04_> I plan on staying with OS 10.4 Tiger for a while
[08:37] <erichj> most mac users get off on eye candy. nothing makes me as mad as when i think about safari on windows. steve jobs should know better.
[08:38] <torchwood04_> ugh yeah
[08:38] <sivaji> torchwood04_  dont flood the channel
[08:38] <torchwood04_> k
[08:38] <sivaji> stdin wht is that
[08:38] <erichj> mac os is just eye candy to me. i get that with kde though
[08:39] <stdin> sivaji: you give it a URL, and it gives you a TinyURL, from http://tinyurl.com
[08:39] <stdin> sivaji: I can type "/tinyurl my-long-url-goes-here" and it will post a short url for it
[08:39] <torchwood04_> Okay, so how can I re-boot into OSX?
[08:39] <torchwood04_> from Kubuntu and Grub taking over lol
[08:40] <erichj> no idea, i don't dual boot anything. one OS is enough for me. i run everything else as VM's if i need them
[08:40] <stdin> sivaji: eg "http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Konversation?content=9927" = "http://tinyurl.com/36e7jy"
[08:41] <sivaji> stdin ok ok
[08:42] <stdin> the konversation people liked it, so they asked if that could use it in the development version
[08:42] <torchwood04_> How do I access grub.conf?
[08:42] <julius> what do you need to do?
[08:42] <julius> and just sudo nano /boot/grub/grub.conf
[08:42] <torchwood04_> add osx to the info
[08:43] <julius> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2847445#post2847445 anyone able to help me?
[08:43] <stdin> torchwood04_: or just do "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst" (as ubuntu uses menu.lst not grub.conf)
[08:43] <torchwood04_> k
[08:44] <torchwood04_> not working
[08:45] <sparr> I have a Gigabyte GA-M61PM-S2 motherboard with onboard audio.  Manual says Realtek ALC883 chip.  LSPCI says "nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio".  lsmod says I am using snd_hda_intel.  Audio in most OSS games has static/clicking/popping.  Help?
[08:45] <torchwood04_> can i just use my macosx dvd to boot from and select the mac os x partition to boot from?
[08:45] <torchwood04_> sparr, please use a pasting app if you are going to paste stuff like that
[08:45] <torchwood04_>  pasting site*
[08:46] <sparr> a pasting site for one line?
[08:46] <julius> no that was a fine size
[08:46] <julius> sparr: lower the sound level
[08:46] <torchwood04_> that was about 7 lines for me but nvm
[08:47] <sparr> the problem scales with volume
[08:47] <julius> sparr: theres a program (not the gui mixer) that can set the 100%
[08:47] <sparr> half volume = half volume static
[08:47] <torchwood04_> ok, i'm going to go
[08:47] <torchwood04_> bye
[08:48] <sparr> http://sparr.homeip.net/static.ogg
[08:48] <julius> sparr: ok sounds a bit different
[08:48] <sparr> sample of the problem.  ignore the horrible capture quality
[08:51] <sivaji>  stdin i thought u r very old but u r just 21 great
[08:51] <stdin> heh, and I don't even have a beerd :p
[08:51] <sivaji> stdin can i see u photo
[08:51] <stdin> sivaji: I don't have one up atm, I haven't got around to taking one
[08:51] <sivaji> stdin can i see u *r* photo
[08:52] <stdin> I'll put one up on launchpad when I get around to it
[08:52] <sivaji> ok
[08:53] <fatejudger> does anyone know if laptop acpi functions come enabled by default? (i.e. lid closing, power button, etc)
[08:54] <stdin> yeah, acpi is started at boot
[08:54] <stdin> (unless it's disabled)
[08:54] <fatejudger> well I give up then
[08:54] <julius> lol
[08:54] <fatejudger> because I've tried everything to get my laptop to suspend on lid close
[08:54] <julius> i need to get around to setting up cpu scaling and all the other power features
[08:55] <fatejudger> I remember having some button I had to press in KDE
[08:55] <fatejudger> in the power settings area
[08:55] <fatejudger> to enable the ACPI features
[08:55] <emonkey-f> fatejudger, do you know Guidance? the Batteri-icon right-down in the corner?
[08:56] <fatejudger> emonkey-f: what about it?
[08:57] <emonkey-f> fatejudger, there you can normally configure the action you want
[08:57] <emonkey-f> (in 7.04 - feisty)
[08:57] <fatejudger> emonkey-f: ideally
[08:57] <emonkey-f> yeah
[08:58] <emonkey-f> should 
[08:59] <fatejudger> so I take it there's no rational explanation for something like this to occur?
[08:59] <fatejudger> I mean, it USED to work in Edgy
[08:59] <emonkey-f> That's pitty :(
[09:00] <fatejudger> yeah well, I'm not surprised
[09:00] <fatejudger> I bet you it's this damn Gnome business
[09:00] <fatejudger> I thought I'd try installing Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu this time and it's given me nothing be grief
[09:00] <fatejudger> *but
[09:05] <kraut> moin
[09:08] <Forsaken200> hey, I need some help with installing GTK+. Can someone help me?
[09:09] <_dac> no
[09:11] <emonkey-f> Forsaken200, why do you need GTK+ and which version? only the libraries?
[09:12] <emonkey-f> tell us what do you want to do, then it's easier to help
[09:15] <neonlinux> hey all... need help... my nic is a gigabit nic.. and its downloading across a lan at 350k
[09:15] <neonlinux> any ideas?
[09:15] <neonlinux> cables and other machine is fine
[09:15] <mattsqz> what is the other end like
[09:16] <mattsqz> gigabit also?
[09:16] <mattsqz> crossover cable, switch, router, ?
[09:16] <neonlinux> unfortunatly no... its 100mb
[09:16] <neonlinux> switch
[09:16] <mattsqz> 100btx switch?
[09:16] <mattsqz> or 10bt
[09:16] <neonlinux> 100
[09:16] <neonlinux> in windows it had no worries (unfortunatly im still dual booting)
[09:17] <Scullder> hi
[09:19] <mattsqz> you sure its a switch or is it a hub
[09:19] <neonlinux> switch
[09:22] <mattsqz> well thats a bit odd
[09:23] <mattsqz> i suppose it could depend on the disk its transferring from?
[09:23] <neonlinux> mattsqz: trying to find out what card it is.. (its in a laptop)
[09:27] <neonlinux> gtg.. ill keep playing.. thanks mattsqz
[09:28] <sivaji_> sivaji :  are u from india
[09:31] <sui> hi
[09:34] <sui> how can I install rsh/rlogin? I use kubuntu 6.10 and i have some old unix-machines here which don't support ssh. I did aptitude rsh-client, but aptitude tells me that rsh is already installed
[09:35] <sui> but it's just a symlink to /etc/alternatives/rlogin which links to /usr/bin/ssh
[09:35] <sivaji2009> sui try #ubuntu
[09:36] <sui> k
[09:36] <stdin> sui: you installed rsh-client?
[09:36] <stdin> sui: have you tried "sudo update-alternatives --config rlogin" ?
[09:37] <sui> stdin: aptitude install rsh-client -- No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[09:37] <stdin> try the "sudo update-alternatives --config rlogin" command then
[09:38] <sui> stdin: i haven't tried update alternatives. will do now
[09:38] <sui> stdin: There is only 1 program which provides rlogin
[09:38] <sui> (/usr/bin/slogin). Nothing to configure.
[09:39] <stdin> sui: there should be two
[09:39] <stdin> sui: /usr/bin/slogin and /usr/bin/netkit-rlogin
[09:40] <sui> stdin: no, netkit-rlogin isn't available here: ls: /usr/bin/netkit-rlogin: No such file or directory
[09:41] <stdin> sui: what version of kubuntu are you on?
[09:42] <sui> stdin: it's a new install from a 6.10 and yesterday i did an aptitude update, upgrade and dist-upgrade
[09:42] <stdin> sui: do you have the universe repository installed ?
[09:42] <stdin> or enabled rather
[09:42] <sui> stdin: i didn't change sources.list
[09:43] <stdin> sui: try "sudo apt-get install rsh-client"
[09:43] <stdin> see if that spits out an error
[09:43] <sui> Note, selecting openssh-client instead of rsh-client
[09:43] <sui> openssh-client is already the newest version.
[09:43] <stdin> hmm
[09:43] <sui> do i have to enable universe repositories?
[09:44] <stdin> you may have to enable it, yes
[09:44] <stdin> just uncomment it
[09:44] <sui> do i need backports?
[09:46] <stdin> you don't need it
[09:46] <sui> stdin: works
[09:46] <sui> stdin: ty
[09:47] <stdin> np :)
[10:05] <DemonSamurai> ermm can i get some help with this : Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".????
[10:06] <stdin> DemonSamurai: do you have "Load    "dri"" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[10:06] <sui> DemonSamurai: i suppose you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:06] <DemonSamurai> sui give me th command for the terminal
[10:07] <sui> DemonSamurai: sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:08] <stdin> add the "Load    "dri"" line under "Section "Module""
[10:08] <DemonSamurai> the is one there already
[10:09] <stdin> how about the "Section "DRI"" part ?
[10:09] <stdin> should be at the bottom (normally)
[10:09] <sui> DemonSamurai: look at the end of this file at 'Section "DRI"'
[10:09] <sui> DemonSamurai: add     Group      "video" Mode       0660
[10:10] <sui> DemonSamurai: Mode should be a new line
[10:10] <sui> and after that 'EndSection'
[10:10] <josh__> Sup everyone!
[10:10] <stdin> it shouldn't need the Group part, as only root (the X server) is going to access it
[10:10] <sivaji2009> stdin how to check my cpu speed
[10:11] <DemonSamurai> ermmm how can i opened outside of the terminal
[10:11] <stdin> sivaji2009: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:11] <stdin> DemonSamurai: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:14] <sivaji2009> cpu MHz         : 1004.742 but my actual speed is 1.67GHz
[10:14] <sivaji2009> stdin
[10:14] <mattsqz> are you sure
[10:15] <mattsqz> speedstep/powernow dynamically changes cpu speed
[10:16] <sivaji2009> stdin ya i am sure as per windows my cpu speed is 1.67GHZ
[10:16] <ardchoille> What happened to http://www.linux.org/ ?
[10:22] <DemonSamurai> sui you there?
[10:22] <sui> .
[10:22] <DemonSamurai> there is a section DRI
[10:22] <DemonSamurai> mode o666
[10:22] <DemonSamurai> 0666*
[10:23] <DemonSamurai> but still when i type wine in terminal i get this
[10:23] <sui> DemonSamurai: what videocard do you use, and check the driver
[10:24] <DemonSamurai> ok now i need the big help
[10:24] <DemonSamurai> i need to uninstall and reinstall the driver
[10:24] <sui> when I install nfs-client or cups, where can i configure that they should be autostarted on boot?
[10:25] <sui> DemonSamurai: what videocard do you have?
[10:25] <DemonSamurai> ASUS ATI EAX x1600 series
[10:26] <sui> DemonSamurai: have you installed fglrx-driver?
[10:27] <DemonSamurai> yes
[10:27] <DemonSamurai> i also downloaded the driver from ati.com
[10:27] <sui> DemonSamurai: do you load fglrx as driver for your card?
[10:27] <sui> DemonSamurai: in xorg.conf?
[10:27] <DemonSamurai> hmmm
[10:28] <DemonSamurai> tell me where to look on xorg
[10:29] <sui> DemonSamurai: Section "Device" for your video card
[10:29] <sui> where can I find a runlevel-control in kubuntu?
[10:29] <DemonSamurai> Section "Device"
[10:29] <DemonSamurai> 	Identifier	"ATI Technologies Inc ATI Default Card"
[10:29] <DemonSamurai> 	Driver		"vesa"
[10:29] <DemonSamurai> 	BusID		"PCI:4:0:0"
[10:29] <DemonSamurai> EndSection
[10:30] <eagles0513875> how do i setup mysql on my local machine
[10:30] <stdin> sui: System Settings -> Advanced tab -> System Services
[10:30] <sui> DemonSamurai: right, and instead of vesa you should use fglrx
[10:31] <stdin> http://tinyurl.com/esmch
[10:31] <stdin> eagles0513875: ^
[10:31] <eagles0513875> ty stdin and i also didnt know there was a mysql channel lol
[10:32] <stdin> eagles0513875: that's from the LAMP howto, but it should help
[10:32] <eagles0513875> question what would my internal ip address be
[10:33] <DemonSamurai> omg i am not able to save it
[10:34] <stdin> eagles0513875: there is the localhost one (127.0.0.1), or if you are on a LAN, you'll have a 192.168.X.X address
[10:34] <eagles0513875> oh ok ty
[10:34] <eagles0513875> so basically i use the loopback address
[10:34] <stdin> yeah, it's easiest
[10:34] <eagles0513875> ok
[10:34] <hoddogarus> hello. i am new to kubuntu. my old lancard has broken and i cannot install the new one. can someone help me on it? (Lan Card Realtek 9139D)
[10:35] <stdin> hoddogarus: you should be able to plug it in and use it
[10:36] <baudthief> Hello, is there something like ultraVNC that only takes over keyboard/mouse instead of the whole lot? (Got display directly connected through a KVM switch)
[10:36] <hoddogarus> i am able to plug and use, but kubuntu doesn't recognize it. i got drivers, but i am also new to linux.
[10:37] <sui> hm, when i try to reconfigure mynetwork settings i get this error: Please don't supply more than one address family.
[10:38] <stdin> what command are you using?
[10:38] <sui> I set an address for loopback and for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:38] <stdin> pastebin it
[10:38] <sui> stdin: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:39] <sui> atm, i configured my network directly with ifconfig
[10:39] <sui> mom, loading a nopaste
[10:42] <acemo> is there any kde alternative for gobby?
[10:42] <sui> stdin: http://nopaste.php-q.net/301422
[10:42] <spark_> hi
[10:43] <DemonSamurai> sui i still get this  Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" when i type winefile
[10:43] <acemo> is there any collaborative editor for kde?
[10:44] <stdin> sui: hmm, that seems valid
[10:44] <sui> acemo: vim, nano, kate, kwrite, kedit
[10:44] <crdlb> DemonSamurai, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:45] <acemo> sui: does kate/kwrite/kedit supports multiple persons using diffrent pcs to edit the same file and see the changes with not having to save each time?
[10:45] <me__> it will ask you to reload if there are changes to the doc
[10:45] <stdin> ^ nope
[10:45] <sui> stdin: with 'ifconfig eth0 ip.add.re.ss netmask xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx up' it works fine
[10:45] <me__> kate does anyway
[10:46] <acemo> me__: would be kind of anoying to get the question if i want to reload each 3 seconds :/
[10:46] <DemonSamurai> sui http://pastebin.com/929455
[10:47] <ath> hi
[10:48] <me__> does anyone know if the hdparm /dev/sda has been fixed yet?
[10:48] <pass> latest kernel is 2.6.21.5 but kubuntu only displays 2.6.15-28, why?
[10:48] <crdlb> pass, because you're using dapper
[10:48] <pass> i c
[10:49] <pass> now to the next question
[10:49] <stdin> actually the latest kernel is 2.6.22 now
[10:49] <pass> planning on upgrading to feisty
[10:49] <pass> need to go to edgy first
[10:49] <sui> stdin: found my error. i used a , instead of a . but when i try to restart network no i get SIOCADDRT: File exists     Failed to bring up eth0.
[10:49] <crdlb> stdin, not out yet
[10:50] <DemonSamurai> sui you got my paste bin?
[10:50] <stdin> sui: use "sudo ifup --force eth0" try that
[10:50] <crdlb> DemonSamurai, disable composite
[10:50] <DemonSamurai> crdb how do i do that?
[10:51] <crdlb> DemonSamurai, to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, add:
[10:51] <crdlb> Section "Extensions"
[10:51] <crdlb>     Option "Composite" "0"
[10:51] <crdlb> EndSection
[10:51] <crdlb> at the end
[10:51] <stdin> crdlb: it isn't? http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/base/linux-image-2.6.22-6-generic
[10:51] <sui> stdin: i did it the old fashioned way. ifconfig eth0 down && /etc/init.d/networking start
[10:51] <crdlb> stdin, it's only a release candidate
[10:52] <stdin> crdlb: it's still out in gutsy
[10:52] <me__> is there much diffrence in using the standard kernel that comes with 7 or compiling a custom one?
[10:52] <crdlb> me__, unless you have a very good reason, not at all
[10:53] <me__> crdlb , Thanks
[10:53] <crdlb> like some hardware that you can't use without some weird patchset
[10:54] <crdlb> stdin, gutsy isn't out either :P
[10:54] <me__> crdlb , nope very lucky everything works out of the box even xgl
[10:54] <crdlb> me__, ooh if you're using fglrx, a custom kernel can really make a mess of that
[10:55] <me__> crdlb , not fglrx i have an intel chip
[10:55] <crdlb> me__, oh you're not using Xgl then
[10:56] <crdlb> you just mean beryl/compiz in general
[10:56] <me__> crdlb. is it aglx then ;p
[10:56] <crdlb> yes it's aiglx :)
[10:56] <me__> crdlb ;p
[10:57] <me__> hehe next question can i turn of color schemes when i use firefox ooo?
[11:06] <eagles0513875> how do i connecting to my database using mysql admin
[11:06] <eagles0513875> stdin: could u help me im having some real trouble now connecting to my database
[11:13] <boeroe> can anyy one direct me to solve  the problem that i have with wifi on my laptop(AVERATEC). if is start the  wireless manager the systems freezes....
[11:17] <boeroe> simple problem. if i go on the klm.nl site i get problems because they only work with iexplorer. i change the identification than it works but i am facing problems with the javascripts the y dotn work. what must i do to resolve that?
[11:18] <mattsqz> agh
[11:18] <mattsqz> anyone have a clue what this crap is
[11:18] <mattsqz> error: expected unqualified-id before '{' token
[11:19] <mattsqz> meh i thought all this ansi c++ was supposed to be the same!
[11:19] <kuwanger> Hello, I have a small problem.  Every time I install a new kernel, kubuntu rewrites /boot/grub/menu.lst with the wrong root option for all entries.  Where is the setting for this setting stored, so next time it'll write the correct value?
[11:20] <llutz> kuwanger: "groot" in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:21] <kuwanger> llutz: If it's commented out and wrong, should I uncomment it and correct it?
[11:21] <llutz> kuwanger: don't delete the # in front!
[11:21] <llutz> kuwanger: it's strange but intension
[11:22] <llutz> this is an active entry, no comment: # groot=(hd0,8)
[11:22] <kuwanger> llutz: I see.  I hope that works, then.
[11:22] <oswaldo> someone know where can I information about dirbiss security copy?
[11:24] <specialphil> hi
[11:24] <specialphil> my name is phil
[11:25] <specialphil> im new to kubuntu
[11:26] <specialphil> i like linux
[11:26] <specialphil> do you guys like kubuntu 7?
[11:26] <kuwanger> llutz: Well, thank you.
[11:27] <specialphil> i find it to be a lot more stable and pretty than 6.10
[11:27] <specialphil> "doesn't it look exactly the same?"
[11:27] <specialphil> no!
[11:32] <eagles0513875> does anyone know a remedy as to y kexi keeps crashing when i try to import a database from a mysql server on the localhost
[11:32] <darksoul_> !ntfs
[11:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:32] <eagles0513875> darksoul_: ntfs-3g is amazing
[11:32] <eagles0513875> !fuse
[11:32] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[11:33] <eagles0513875> just thought i would give u a headup about fuse darksoul_
[11:34] <eagles0513875> does anyone know a remedy as to y kexi keeps crashing when i try to import a database from a mysql server on the localhost
[11:35] <darksoul_> !ATI
[11:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:41] <eagles0513875> anyone know much about kexi
[11:58] <darksoul_> how do i install synaptic?
[11:59] <main2> you dont
[11:59] <main2> kubuntu uses 'adept' :)
[12:00] <darksoul_> yes but to add repositories i need synaptic as the help.ubuntu site says
[12:02] <llutz> darksoul_: you can do it in adpet_manager aswell
[12:03] <llutz> adept
[12:03] <darksoul_> llutz i am just trying to install ati drivers from ati.com
[12:04] <crdlb> darksoul_, why?
[12:04] <darksoul_> i downloaded the driver from there
[12:04] <darksoul_> and i am following the site instructions
[12:04] <crdlb> darksoul_, what ati card do you have?
[12:05] <darksoul_> ASUS EAX 1600 series
[12:05] <eagles0513875> bash then the name of the driver
[12:05] <crdlb> darksoul_, then use the xorg-driver-fglrx package
[12:06] <darksoul_> crdlb i did but it does not support my card :S
[12:06] <crdlb> darksoul_, it should
[12:08] <manuel_> il canale italiano?
[12:08] <eagles0513875> !webmin
[12:08] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[12:09] <eagles0513875> darksoul_: u trying to enable fglrx
[12:09] <eagles0513875> if u r i have something useful
[12:09] <manuel_> qualcuno mi da' il link per andare sul canale italiano?? perfavore
[12:09] <eagles0513875> !it
[12:09] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:10] <eagles0513875> darksoul_: ill hook u up with something useful if ur enabling opengl
[12:10] <eagles0513875> i mean fglrx
[12:10] <eagles0513875> but u will have to down load the binary from the repository
[12:11] <eagles0513875> darksoul_: what version r u using of kubuntu edgy or feisty
[12:11] <darksoul_> feisty
[12:11] <darksoul_> 7.04
[12:12] <eagles0513875> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[12:12] <eagles0513875> there u go
[12:12] <eagles0513875> i used that and it got fglrx to work like a charm for me
[12:12] <eagles0513875> let me know if u need any help
[12:13] <darksoul_> thnx a lot :D
[12:13] <eagles0513875> really easy with lil mods to xorg config
[12:13] <kadaz> !flash
[12:13] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:15] <darksoul_> eagles this System > Administration > Software Sources means the adept manager?
[12:15] <kadaz> hi guys
[12:15] <kadaz> I have installed flash9
[12:15] <kadaz> Reading state information... Done
[12:15] <kadaz> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[12:15] <kadaz> but it doesnt work?
[12:16] <kadaz> !Restricted
[12:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:16] <kadaz> !Gnash
[12:16] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[12:17] <eagles0513875> yes
[12:17] <eagles0513875> it does darksoul_
[12:18] <darksoul_> it is indeed a usefull link
[12:18] <eagles0513875> email it to urself so u dont loose it lol
[12:18] <eagles0513875> that is what i did
[12:18] <eagles0513875> any useful links i get i email to myself such as one for setting up a mysql server
[12:20] <darksoul_> any link about downloading mp3/mpeg4 codecs?
[12:20] <eagles0513875> for mp3 i know the codec is lame
[12:20] <eagles0513875> mp4 not sure
[12:21] <eagles0513875> !mp4
[12:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:24] <eagles0513875> hows it going dark
[12:28] <darksoul_> i think it is ok now :)
[12:29] <darksoul_> i also finally saw a catalyst icon in my menu :)
[12:29] <CrypTom> hi all, since feisty I've got strange screen resolutions. Is there a way to change this? I'm using a laptop (sometimes with the internal display 1024*768, sometimes with an external tft with 1280x1024). In my xorg.conf I've only listed 1024x768 and 1280x1024, but when I change from external tft to internal (with full reboot), I get 1024*1024 !
[12:29] <CrypTom> So I have to manually change the resolution twice a day..
[12:29] <CrypTom> And when I've changed it manually from 1024x1024 down to 1024x768, I have to manually change it to 1280x1024 when booting with the external tft. xorg.conf is only used for kdm
[12:30] <kadaz> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, SeaMonkey,
[12:30] <kadaz> or Firefox browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):
[12:30] <kadaz>  /usr/lib/mozilla/   <--- doesnt work?
[12:30] <CrypTom> after login, the resolution is changed to the last used state (when changing from internal to external), or to the max (square resolution, when changing back)
[12:32] <kadaz> I need help to get flash9 working on konquor
[12:40] <kadaz> !flash
[12:40] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:40] <kadaz> !flash
[12:40] <kadaz> !offtopic
[12:40] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:40] <Tm_T> !botabuse
[12:40] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:40] <kadaz> !help
[12:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:41] <kadaz> !browse
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about browse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <kadaz> !adobe
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <kadaz> !support
[12:41] <ubotu> support is The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[12:41] <kadaz> !linux
[12:41] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[12:42] <kadaz> thanks
[12:42] <kadaz> is the channel busy?
[12:42] <Tm_T> no
[12:42] <Tm_T> you can still do that somewhere else
[12:42] <ardchoille> kadaz: It doesn't matter if the channel is busy, searching is better done in /q ubotu  :)
[12:43] <kadaz> /q ubotu test
[12:43] <kadaz> !linux /q ubotu
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux /q ubotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <ardchoille> Or /msg ubotu
[12:43] <pawitp> it's /query ubotu
[12:43] <Milux> hello! I've a issue with my onboard soundcard VIA 8237 AC97, there's a costant bass stutter. I tried all configurations and settings with alsa but i don't resolve the problem
[12:43] <kadaz> I thought q meant question :D
[12:43] <ardchoille> pawitp: Yeah, forgot I had a /q alias
[12:44] <pawitp> ardchoille: so do I
[12:46] <kadaz> zip
[12:46] <kadaz>   flash help anyone?
[12:46] <pawitp> !flash
[12:46] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:46] <pawitp> did you install the package?
[12:46] <ghed> ciao
[12:46] <kadaz> yup. did that, even took it out, and put it back in, also scanned for plugins.
[12:47] <pawitp> no idea then
[12:47] <kadaz> tried a few web sites too.
[12:47] <kadaz> ok, thank you for the offer to help.
[01:03] <darksoul_> i have microsoft lifecam vx1000 where can i find linux drivers?
[01:04] <Tm_T> have you asked from manufacturer?
[01:04] <darksoul_> lol microsoft will never upload linux drivers
[01:05] <Guilty_as_Sin> hey I need to try that for my acer orbicam
[01:05] <Guilty_as_Sin> forgot all about that lil thing up there
[01:05] <Tm_T> darksoul_: humm, then you have to use almighty google, I don't know
[01:06] <darksoul_> yeah and get every site in italian or german damn :S
[01:07] <Tm_T> darksoul_: better than japanese at most of the time
[01:07] <darksoul_> Tm_T lol yes indeed
[01:08] <Guilty_as_Sin> google translate is always fun.. lol  end up talking like a 3rd grader
[01:09] <darksoul_> hmm is it possible my cam to work installing the exe files with wine?
[01:10] <pawitp> darksoul_ no
[01:11] <pawitp> Unsupported WebCams:
[01:11] <pawitp> Microsoft LifeCam VX-1000
[01:11] <pawitp> You won't get much luck with microsoft
[01:11] <darksoul_> O_o??
[01:11] <darksoul_> forum.ubuntu-fr.org/ is there any english forum like that?
[01:11] <pawitp> !forum
[01:11] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:12] <pawitp> That?
[01:14] <darksoul_> pawitp http://www.linux.com/howtos/Webcam-HOWTO/hardware.shtml i found this
[01:15] <darksoul_> but i have no idea what i should do
[01:18] <pawitp> darksoul_ You're MS webcam won't work
[01:18] <darksoul_> damn :S
[01:18] <Wipster> anyone know a good hex editor?
[01:19] <jujimufu> I tried opening a .mdb file (microsoft access file) with Kexi, and I got the error "no migration driver found". I tried opening it with OpenOffice.org Base, and when I selected the file to open, it just disappeared (openoffice just disappeared, although soffice.bin was still in the running processes list). Any ideas?
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> Wipster: hey..if you are going to be a uber-masochist and edit Hex...go use Vim
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> :-P
[01:20] <Wipster> nosrednaekim: ty, I'm working on a firmware to work out the partition values :)
[01:21] <Wipster> nosrednaekim: not so groovai
[01:23] <llutz> Wipster: khexedit, hexer
[01:26] <Wipster> llutz: thanks
[01:34] <cjaydee> hi! need help! i installed a new driver for my radeon video card but when i restarted, my monitor input signal is exceeded so screen is garbled, how can i revert back to a low resolution? i'm a newbie
[01:36] <cjaydee> hi! need help! i installed a new driver for my radeon video card but when i restarted, my monitor input signal is exceeded so screen is garbled, how can i revert back to a low resolution? i'm a newbie
[01:40] <cjaydee> hi! need help! i installed a new driver for my radeon video card but when i restarted, my monitor input signal is exceeded so screen is garbled, how can i revert back to a low resolution? i'm a newbie
[01:45] <Guilty_as_Sin> ctrl alt backspace and after x restarts load metacity
[01:54] <julius> Does VMware server have the video driver support or is it only Workstation?
[01:54] <julius> and does Xemu have it either?
[01:56] <makkes> hey ho
[01:56] <makkes> I've got a problem with mounting external media, does someone want to help me on that?
[01:58] <jonathan_> test
[01:58] <julius> sure
[01:58] <jonathan_> ok
[01:58] <julius> makkes: whats the problem/
[01:58] <makkes> the problem is that KDE automatically mounts all partitions of my external USB drive as soon as I connect it
[01:58] <julius> and?
[01:58] <makkes> I don't want it to do that. :)
[01:58] <jonathan_> which is better, KDE or Gnome?
[01:59] <makkes> I want it to ask if it should mount the partition or not
[01:59] <julius> i dunno if you can do that
[01:59] <julius> jonathan: speedwise they are the same
[01:59] <makkes> KDE did actually ask me that question, but some day I clicked on "always do that" in the dialogue.
[01:59] <marko_> guys does someone know why i get this error all the tim
[02:00] <julius> jonathan: but KDE has many more features, like it comes up with prompts for inserting media, looks better :p
[02:00] <marko_> $ tar xzvf psybnc.tar.gz
[02:00] <julius> makkes: ill look in the thing for you
[02:00] <marko_> tar: z: unknown optio
[02:00] <marko_> tar: usage  tar [-] {txruc}[eONvVwAfblhm{op}] [0-7[lmh] ]  [tapefile]  [blocksize]  [[-C directory]  file]  ...
[02:00] <marko_> ?
[02:00] <julius> well i dont see a z there :p
[02:00] <marko_> what
[02:00] <marko_> :D
[02:01] <marko_> how should i use
[02:01] <marko_> it then ?
[02:01] <julius> hangon
[02:01] <julius> try tar  -xzvf file
[02:01] <julius> with a hyphon
[02:01] <marko_> hyphon
[02:01] <marko_> what's that xD
[02:01] <julius> -
[02:02] <marko_> ok
[02:02] <marko_> i got he same message
[02:02] <crdlb> the - is unnecessary
[02:02] <crdlb> that's really odd though
[02:02] <marko_> well i really need this
[02:02] <marko_> crdlb, do u maybe know it
[02:03] <makkes> julius: any idea?
[02:03] <crdlb> you have tar without gzip support?
[02:03] <marko_> i don't know it's a box of my friend
[02:03] <marko_> i connected with ssh
[02:03] <crdlb> marko_, not running *ubuntu I presume?
[02:03] <julius> makkes: i havent used kde for long, maybe look for a kde manager
[02:03] <marko_> am he has
[02:03] <marko_> wait
[02:03] <julius> is he running gentoo
[02:03] <marko_> HP-UX curacao B.11.11 U 9000/785 2009154944 unlimited-user license
[02:03] <crdlb> yikes
[02:03] <julius> cause he may have compiled it without gzip support for some reason
[02:04] <marko_> what now xD
[02:04] <crdlb> marko_, possibly he might have gunzip
[02:04] <marko_> how is the command
[02:04] <marko_> with gunzip
[02:04] <crdlb> gunzip whatever.tar.gz
[02:04] <jonathan_> somebody know how to make files.tar.gz?
[02:04] <crdlb> that will make it a .tar
[02:05] <makkes> julius: hehe, isn't this the kubuntu channel? ;)
[02:05] <crdlb> marko_, if not, you could, gunzip it on you computer, and scp the .tar to him
[02:05] <marko_> oh
[02:05] <julius> makkes: its very quiet :p
[02:05] <marko_> crdlb,
[02:05] <marko_> i did
[02:05] <marko_> gunzip
[02:06] <marko_> $ gunzip psybnc.tar.gz
[02:06] <marko_> $
[02:06] <marko_> nothing happened
[02:06] <crdlb> now it should be psybnc.tar
[02:06] <marko_> in which foledr ?
[02:06] <marko_> folder* :p
[02:06] <crdlb> same place
[02:06] <marko_> oh ok
[02:06] <marko_> now i just use what ?:D
[02:06] <crdlb> now: tar xvf psybnc.tar
[02:06] <marko_> ok tnx
[02:06] <marko_> yes
[02:06] <marko_> it worked
[02:07] <marko_> crdlb,  thankls
[02:07] <crdlb> lol #kubuntu, the home of kubuntu and HP-UX support
[02:07] <marko_> crdlb,  another question xD
[02:07] <marko_> when i use make
[02:07] <marko_> i get this error
[02:07] <crdlb> marko_, try gmake
[02:07] <marko_> ok
[02:08] <marko_> Initializing bouncer compilation
[02:08] <marko_> [*]  Running Conversion Tool for older psyBNC Data.
[02:08] <marko_> gmake: gcc: Command not found
[02:08] <marko_> gmake: *** [all]  Error 127
[02:08] <crdlb> if you mean on the remote computer
[02:08] <crdlb> well this is a bit offtopic don't you think?
[02:08] <crdlb> there might be a channel for that on freenode
[02:08] <marko_> where should i ask then
[02:08] <marko_> :s
[02:09] <hernan> hi
[02:09] <crdlb> marko_, #hpux ?
[02:09] <marko_> k:>
[02:39] <philippon> anyone here that has any experience with azureus not working in kubuntu?
[02:40] <philippon> and managed to fix it :)
[02:40] <Tm_T> depends how it doesn't work
[02:40] <Tm_T> "not work" tells nearly nothing
[02:41] <StErGi0s> mine loads and then crashes
[02:46] <NetersLandreau> good morning.. does anyone have a link to some good docs for setting up kubuntu to use an external monitor on a laptop?
[02:59] <philippon> azureus starts and then disappears
[02:59] <philippon> and can't run torrents because "it's not a file"
[03:00] <Atomz> lo
[03:03] <Jucato> philippon: have you tried using KTorrent? (installed by default)
[03:04] <philippon> can't figure out how to start torrents
[03:04] <philippon> I know I seem stupid...
[03:07] <philippon> got it to work now, but I would rather use azureus...
[03:08] <handy> hi every one
[03:09] <handy> some one can help my whit the mobile phone tools on kubuntu??
[03:12] <Jucato> philippon: regarding azureus, did you install Sun's Java?
[03:12] <philippon> no, not to my knowledge at least
[03:13] <Jucato> then that could explain why it won't start
[03:13] <Jucato> !java
[03:13] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[03:14] <philippon> I use feisty
[03:15] <philippon> I seem to have sun's java installed
[03:15] <Re|ent|ess> <3 kubuntu
[03:16] <Re|ent|ess> After i go thte repositories and the general setup done wit work just fine
[03:16] <Re|ent|ess> *got
[03:16] <Jucato> philippon: check if it's Sun Java that's being used by default: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:17] <Jucato> choose sun-java from the list if it's not the default yet (most probably isn't)
[03:17] <root__> hi
[03:17] <Re|ent|ess> root__ dont irc as root
[03:17] <root__> ok
[03:17] <Re|ent|ess> and i you ip is not covered
[03:17] <Re|ent|ess> poepl ecan get into your system
[03:17] <Re|ent|ess> *your
[03:18] <root__> how its done
[03:18] <Re|ent|ess> Linux doesnt close port
[03:18] <Re|ent|ess> all your ports are open for the raping
[03:18] <root__> even if i exit
[03:18] <Re|ent|ess> No
[03:18] <Re|ent|ess> I mean
[03:18] <Re|ent|ess> If you exit
[03:19] <Re|ent|ess> su to your user  name
[03:19] <Re|ent|ess> like
[03:19] <Re|ent|ess> su
[03:19] <root__> then how should i close manually
[03:19] <Re|ent|ess> su John
[03:19] <Re|ent|ess> DONT IRC A ROOT
[03:19] <Re|ent|ess> end of story
[03:19] <Jucato> ...
[03:19] <root__> if i close the client will it be ok
[03:19] <Re|ent|ess> -> root__ (n=root@202.83.56.15) <---- YOur ip
[03:19] <Re|ent|ess> Yes
[03:19] <Re|ent|ess> if you close the client
[03:19] <root__> thanks a lot
[03:20] <Re|ent|ess> N00bs
[03:20] <Jucato> be gentle :)
[03:20] <Re|ent|ess> sry
[03:20] <Re|ent|ess> but
[03:20] <Re|ent|ess> i had to be brutle
[03:20] <Re|ent|ess> Thats how i learned not to irc as root
[03:20] <Re|ent|ess> i got hack =/
[03:21] <Re|ent|ess> *hacked
[03:21] <Re|ent|ess> !oftopic
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oftopic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <Re|ent|ess> !offtopic
[03:21] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:21] <Re|ent|ess> !help
[03:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:22] <Re|ent|ess> Ah ha the ops like to hide
[03:22] <Re|ent|ess> :p
[03:23] <zipper> omg! I just realized my "shortcut" buttons on my logitech ultrax actually works out of the box in feisty =D
[03:23] <zipper> heh
[03:23] <zipper> i've had it installed for a couple of weeks now
[03:23] <zipper> :P
[03:23] <Re|ent|ess> lol
[03:23] <Re|ent|ess> Edgy worked better with my Hp
[03:24] <morgajel> anyone else notice instability in kontact/kmail when talking to an exchange server running imap?
[03:24] <zipper> i like utrax.... resembles a laptop keyboard
[03:24] <zipper> Its a bitch when you just get it, but after a while you can type very fast on it
[03:25] <Re|ent|ess> do talk to windows
[03:25] <Re|ent|ess> they hate us :p
[03:26] <philippon> I seem to have two kinds of sun java installed...
[03:27] <philippon> one with just the number 6 after it and one with 1.5.0
[03:27] <Re|ent|ess> Which one does your program reconise
[03:27] <philippon> ?
[03:27] <Re|ent|ess> Like
[03:28] <Jucato> philippon: choose the one with 6
[03:28] <Jucato> philippon: the 1.5 is probably not Sun Java but the free version gcj
[03:28] <Re|ent|ess> Jucato, the new firefox in incompatable with 1.6
[03:28] <Re|ent|ess> it needs an update
[03:28] <Re|ent|ess> it made me said
[03:28] <Re|ent|ess> *sad
[03:28] <Jucato> dunno. I don't use firefox
[03:28] <Re|ent|ess> :O
[03:29] <philippon> ok, should azureus work now? because it doesn't...
[03:29] <Re|ent|ess> Is you java bin folder in the $path
[03:30] <yazou> bonjour a tous
[03:33] <darksoul_> anyone here knows how to make lineage 2 work on linux?
[03:37] <StErGi0s> darksoul_: use wine
[03:38] <ubuntu_aqua> how can i get to that Enabling NumLock during startup and before login
[03:38] <ubuntu_aqua> some could do me a favor?
[03:38] <darksoul_> StErGi0s i use wine but still got some errors
[03:39] <ubuntu_aqua> i wanna Enabling NumLock during startup and before login
[03:39] <stan> yeah
[03:39] <stan> I would like to know this as well
[03:39] <stan> is this at all possible?
[03:40] <StErGi0s> darksoul_:  what errors are you getting?
[03:40] <stan> kinda annoying to have to turn it on manually everytime
[03:40] <darksoul_> i have to activate AGP or something
[03:40] <ubuntu_aqua> in the gnome-desktop i can make it,but now i use the KE
[03:40] <Jucato> stan: it has to be before login?
[03:40] <ubuntu_aqua> KDE
[03:41] <ubuntu_aqua> en!
[03:41] <Jucato> there's a setting in KDE that turns it on *after* login
[03:41] <ubuntu_aqua> i already see it
[03:41] <stan> Jucato, how do I get to KDE settings/
[03:42] <Jucato> stan: System Settings
[03:42] <StErGi0s> stan: alt+f2 and run kcontrol
[03:42] <ubuntu_aqua> K Menu -> System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Keyboard)
[03:42] <darksoul_> StErGi0s i found the exact error ---> The game may not be consistant because AGP is deactivated. Please activate AGP for consistancy
[03:42] <ubuntu_aqua> the options for "NumLock on KDE Startup"
[03:43] <ubuntu_aqua> Bingo!
[03:43] <stan> oh! right
[03:43] <stan> thanks for the help guys ;)
[03:43] <Jucato> of course, that only applies *after* login.... so in the login screen, Num Lock will still be off
[03:43] <stan> that would be fine with me :D
[03:43] <ubuntu_aqua> but what i want is Enabling NumLock during startup and before login
[03:43] <manpreet> Hi all can i get some help here?
[03:43] <stan> dont use it on login screen anyway :)
[03:44] <Jucato> !ask | manpreet
[03:44] <ubotu> manpreet: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:44] <darksoul_> StErGi0s and after the critical error i get this
[03:44] <darksoul_> 2007.6.15 16:43:17
[03:44] <darksoul_> OS : Windows 2000 5.0 (Build: 2195)
[03:44] <darksoul_> CPU : GenuineIntel PentiumPro-class processor @ 2137 MHz with 1003MB RAM
[03:44] <darksoul_> Video : Direct3D HAL (5)
[03:44] <darksoul_> You have outdated NVIDIA drivers. Please upgrade your drivers to version 30.82 or later.
[03:44] <StErGi0s> well
[03:44] <darksoul_> but i only have ATI graphic card and not Nvidia
[03:44] <StErGi0s> seems you should update your drivers
[03:44] <Jucato> !paste | darksoul_
[03:44] <ubotu> darksoul_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:44] <ubuntu_aqua> every time i login i have to enable numlock,its not conveneint
[03:45] <manpreet> Anyone here?
[03:45] <darksoul_> sry for the paste
[03:45] <darksoul_> StErGi0s i just installed my drivers
[03:45] <stan> manpreet, what do you need help with?
[03:45] <ubuntu_aqua> yes,im here,still alive
[03:45] <Jucato> manpreet: just ask
[03:45] <StErGi0s> ati drivers?
[03:46] <ubuntu_aqua> stan,what desktop are u using now?
[03:46] <ubuntu_aqua> gnome or KDE
[03:46] <Jucato> manpreet: just ask in here. and the answer is yes
[03:46] <stan> ubuntu_aqua, KDE
[03:46] <manpreet> I want to install Opera browser!
[03:47] <Re|ent|ess> get mozilla
[03:47] <stan> ubuntu_aqua: why?
[03:47] <ubuntu_aqua> stan: in the gnome i can make it
[03:48] <stan> make what/
[03:48] <stan> ?
[03:48] <Re|ent|ess> xchat 2.8.0
[03:48] <Jucato> ubuntu_aqua: using numlockx I presume?
[03:48] <StErGi0s> anyone has issues with limewire?it always times out when i try to run it
[03:48] <Re|ent|ess> xchat 2.8.0
[03:48] <ubuntu_aqua> stan: i can Enabling NumLock during startup and before login
[03:48] <Jucato> !opera | manpreet
[03:48] <ubotu> manpreet: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[03:48] <ubuntu_aqua> yes
[03:48] <ubuntu_aqua> Jucato: yes
[03:48] <Jucato> ubuntu_aqua: then that's proof that "GNOME can't do it" :P
[03:49] <ubuntu_aqua> Jucato: i wanna make it in the KDE
[03:49] <ubuntu_aqua> Jucato: but i cannt find any information
[03:50] <manpreet> Ubotu i'm using Kubuntu Feisty Fawn. So could you pleaseeee explain?
[03:50] <StErGi0s> ubuntu_aqua: have you checked your bios?Mine has that option on bios for keyboard..boot with num lock on
[03:50] <stan> hey! thats an idea!
[03:50] <ubuntu_aqua> StErGi0s: i have check,thats ok!
[03:51] <Jucato> ubuntu_aqua: add "/usr/bin/numlockx on" to the /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsetup file
[03:51] <Jucato> try that.
[03:51] <ubuntu_aqua> ok!
[03:51] <ubuntu_aqua> and where the line add?
[03:52] <protocol1> you know package would be good to get me viewing .mpg videos?
[03:52] <ubuntu_aqua> top or the End?
[03:52] <protocol1> anybody*
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> protocol1: vlc
[03:52] <protocol1> ok
[03:52] <manpreet> Please help me with installing OPERA.
[03:53] <darksoul_> manpreet what is your problem?
[03:53] <StErGi0s> manpreet: what probs you are facing?
[03:53] <ubuntu_aqua> Jucato: where i should add line you gave me?
[03:54] <darksoul_> ante gamw to support mou
[03:54] <manpreet> I don't know how to install OPERA.
 ubuntu_aqua: add "/usr/bin/numlockx on" to the /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsetup file
[03:54] <darksoul_> you are on pure linux or with windows?
[03:54] <StErGi0s> manpreet: you've downloaded already?
[03:55] <ubuntu_aqua> jucato:there R 3 lines in the file
[03:55] <ardchoille> Jucato: When numlockx is installed it should be configured to be on automatically
[03:55] <manpreet> NO, I haven't downloaded. I want to install it via KONSOLE!
[03:56] <Jucato> ubuntu_aqua: at the end I guess
[03:56] <darksoul_> manpreet watch your word and stop screaming
[03:57] <ubuntu_aqua> Jucato: i try! God knows what would happen,god bless me!
[03:57] <StErGi0s> manpreet: ok go to www.opera.com and download it
[03:57] <StErGi0s> then just cd to the folder you downloaded it
[03:57] <manpreet> darksoul_  Please help me with it.
[03:57] <StErGi0s> and dpkg -i opera*.deb
[03:58] <darksoul_> manpreet you got your answers
[03:58] <manpreet> StErGiOs  i want to install it via konsole.
[03:58] <darksoul_> manpreet open console
[03:58] <ubuntu_aqua> alt
[03:58] <ubuntu_aqua> +
[03:58] <ubuntu_aqua> F2
[03:58] <protocol1> Daisuke_Ido, there a way to make vlc my default media player?
[03:58] <darksoul_> 1st open konqueror and go download opera
[03:58] <manpreet> Okay Darksoul i've opened it.
[03:58] <StErGi0s> then find a place to download it from
[03:59] <StErGi0s> wget it and do what i said
[03:59] <ubuntu_aqua> have anybody used the safary?
[04:00] <manpreet> darksoul_ i've opened konsole, what to do now?
[04:00] <StErGi0s> anyone can help me fix my problem with limewire?
[04:00] <ubuntu_aqua> its heard that its not so good as i expect
[04:00] <darksoul_> manpreet go from konqueror and download opera
[04:00] <ubuntu_aqua> linewire?
[04:01] <StErGi0s> yeah limewire
[04:01] <ubuntu_aqua> say it
[04:01] <protocol1> StErGi0s, yeah get frostwire its better
[04:01] <ubuntu_aqua> i would try my best
[04:01] <StErGi0s> it wont run at all
[04:01] <StErGi0s> just times out
[04:02] <manpreet> darksoul_ brother i have a very slow connection. In real i'm connected via a mobile. So i want to do it via konsole coz then i can issue the command and can sleep.
[04:02] <StErGi0s> protocol1: ill give it a try
[04:02] <ubuntu_aqua> wait ur good news
[04:03] <ubuntu_aqua> for
[04:03] <darksoul_> manpreet let me see something
[04:03] <ubuntu_aqua> my english is quite poor
[04:04] <darksoul_> manpreet sorry bro there is not any repository for opera to get it and install it
[04:05] <manpreet> darksoul_ okay thanks bro, anyway i'll ask my friend to download opera for me.
[04:06] <manuel_> #kubuntu.it
[04:06] <Jucato> manuel_: that's #kubuntu-it
[04:08] <ManiDhillon> darksoul_ i've registered a username bro!
[04:09] <neonlinux> hey all.. anyone had any experience with the realtek 8168b network cards?
[04:11] <ManiDhillon> Okay so can you tell me how to install Wine? Only via Konsole!
[04:11] <StErGi0s> frostwire wont run either :S
[04:11] <me__> sudo apt-get install wine
[04:12] <Jucato> ManiDhillon: through Adept Manager or Add/Remove Programs
[04:12] <Jucato> ManiDhillon: please just ask in here. thanks
[04:13] <ubuntu_aqua> the easy way is find settings=>advanced
[04:13] <ManiDhillon> wine install details
[04:13] <ubuntu_aqua> the double the wine
[04:13] <ubuntu_aqua> and i will remind u to install software
[04:14] <StErGi0s> http://pastebin.ca/568358
[04:14] <StErGi0s> getting this when trying to run limewire or frostwire anyone can help?
[04:14] <ManiDhillon> darksoul_ bro are you here to help me?
[04:15] <Jucato> StErGi0s: #1. install sun-java6-bin #2 run the command "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and choose the newly installed sun-java
[04:16] <ManiDhillon> Any help to install WINE?
[04:16] <StErGi0s> ManiDhillon: sudo apt-get install wine
[04:17] <me__> hehe
[04:17] <StErGi0s> Jucato: aye it worked :D thank ya man
[04:19] <ManiDhillon> StErGiOs  When i issued that command it said  Package not found.
[04:20] <me__> which version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:21] <ManiDhillon> I need to install wine pls some one help me!
[04:21] <Tm_T> !wine
[04:21] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:21] <Tm_T> ManiDhillon: ^
[04:22] <me__> Manidhillion which version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:22] <ManiDhillon> Tm_T yeah please tell me how to install it.
[04:22] <Tm_T> ManiDhillon: doesn't that page explain?
[04:22] <ManiDhillon> me__ I'm using Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn
[04:23] <me__> manidhillon an you can't get into the package manager?
[04:24] <ManiDhillon> Tm_T i'm gonna check that.
[04:24] <Tm_T> ManiDhillon: please do (:
[04:24] <modjo> hi
[04:24] <modjo> hi, everybody :D
[04:25] <modjo> need some help. any one?
[04:28] <fabiofx> hi
[04:28] <ManiDhillon> Tm_T Can you explain the third point on that page for installing a key?
[04:29] <modjo> can someone tell why i cant copy files from my kubuntu folder to a ntfs folder?
[04:29] <fabiofx> exist any beryl log file errors?
[04:29] <Tm_T> ManiDhillon: run Konsole and paste that command to there?
[04:29] <ManiDhillon> modjo i think Ubuntu can't write any data to NTFS system.
[04:30] <bonbonthejon> modjo: do you have the newer ntfs drivers that can write
[04:30] <Tm_T> ManiDhillon: it can
[04:30] <Arwen> !ntfs | modjo
[04:30] <ubotu> modjo: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:30] <modjo> !ntfs-3g
[04:30] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:30] <Tm_T> ManiDhillon: anyway, you should be fine with Wine from universe repository
[04:30] <ManiDhillon> Tm_T I did that and it said OK. I think it should download some key files, isn't it?
[04:30] <Tm_T> ManiDhillon: it already did then
[04:31] <modjo> tns i needed that kind of tutorial
[04:31] <modjo> couldnt find it
[04:31] <fabiofx> my beryl don't up window decoration :(
[04:32] <[ifroog] > !IPW3945
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipw3945 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <ManiDhillon> Tm_T Yu mean i just now need to update my package files? Other things are done?
[04:32] <Tm_T> ManiDhillon: yes
[04:32] <Tm_T> ManiDhillon: and then just install it, and you're done
[04:32] <bonbonthejon> fabiofx: check the beryl wiki, there is an entry for that
[04:32] <matthias_> hi$
[04:33] <matthias_> can somebody give me a url where there are very recent kde4 screenshots?
[04:33] <matthias_> im just wondering to see
[04:33] <ManiDhillon> Tm_T Oh thanks brother! By the what is BERYL, i've added it today but can't understand how it enhance my desktop.
[04:33] <matthias_> what it will be
[04:33] <Arwen> ManiDhillon, ....
[04:33] <Arwen> !beryl | ManiDhillon
[04:33] <ubotu> ManiDhillon: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:33] <Arwen> it doesn't "enhance" your desktop per say
[04:34] <ManiDhillon> Arwen So what it do/
[04:34] <Arwen> it makes your desktop look pretty... why not read the link?
[04:34] <ManiDhillon> Arwen okay bro don't be angry!
[04:34] <Tm_T> haha
[04:35] <Arwen> lol
[04:35] <Tm_T> we are all brothers and sisters ;)
[04:35] <Arwen> but some of us are both!
[04:35] <Tm_T> Arwen: yes I am
[04:36] <Arwen> you're both a brother and a sister? uh..
[04:36] <Jucato> O.o
[04:36] <ManiDhillon> Tm_T Bro what is your PC spec, if you don't mind this stupid question1
[04:36] <Tm_T> ManiDhillon: it has big box, glass screen and keyboard
[04:38] <modjo> i did download ntfs configuration tool but doesnt seems to open
[04:38] <modjo> maybe it only works with gnome?
[04:38] <ManiDhillon> Tm_T lol, anyway don't mind!
[04:38] <Tm_T> ManiDhillon: I don't ;)
[04:38] <Tm_T> glad I get tomorrow back to my laptop
[04:38] <Tm_T> 486sx with 8 MB ram <3
[04:40] <ManiDhillon> Tm_T can you tell me some other things to enhance KUbuntu. Coz i'm new to Linux and i have little knowledge about its components.
[04:40] <ManiDhillon> Arwen i read that page and i found that Beryl is not for me!
[04:40] <Tm_T> ManiDhillon: you don't need to exchange it, it's mostly fine the way it is
[04:40] <Tm_T> ManiDhillon: when you find some need, then do it ;)
[04:41] <ManiDhillon> Tm_t what is latest version of KDE? How to install it? How big the file is in size?
[04:43] <StErGi0s> azureus crashes and getting this error again http://pastebin.ca/568358 what to do anyone knows?
[04:43] <Tm_T> ManiDhillon: how about using what you have now and get familiar with it, it's not old ;)
[04:43] <ManiDhillon> Hey strange there is no one from PUNJAB/India here except me!
[04:43] <Minataku> Aaargh... this router is pissing me off
[04:44] <Arwen> ManiDhillon, read the topic. The latest KDE is 3.5.7 and you can get it at kubuntu.org
[04:44] <farhana> hello
[04:44] <ManiDhillon> Tm_T okay as you wish! I'll not update it.
[04:45] <Tm_T> ManiDhillon: it's not my wish, just suggestion
[04:45] <ManiDhillon> Tm_T i respect your suggestion and will abide it.
[04:45] <Arwen> this is the wrong place to ask, but where do I file mplayer bug reports?
[04:46] <ManiDhillon> Arwen you can file that bug at Kubuntu Doc mailing list or at Bugzilla.
[04:46] <Arwen> ...no....
[04:48] <ManiDhillon> Ign http://deb.opera.com stable/non-free Packages   Did it mean that adept has ignored Opera Repositry?
[04:50] <Dr_willis> Or it was allready up to date
[04:50] <Dr_willis> so it dident redownload the info
[04:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[04:50] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: hullo
[04:52] <BluesKaj> hmm, been having probs with "Grub error 15 -file not found " the /boot/grub/menu.lst  has something wrong but i can't spot it
[04:53] <BluesKaj> Hi Tm_T
[04:53] <Dr_willis> check that other file that defines how grub sees the hd's i had a issue once where that was incorrct.
[04:53] <BluesKaj> I updated thru synaptic yesterday and that's when it happened
[04:53] <Dr_willis> device.map file  - may be incorrect
[04:54] <Dr_willis> Not herd of any issues like that BluesKaj  - not to say that theres not some issue. :)
[04:54] <ManiDhillon> Dr_willis I'm first time updating my packages after adding new repos, so how it could be up to date?
[04:54] <Dr_willis> you cant even get to the grub menu eh?
[04:54] <Dr_willis> ManiDhillon,  no idea. try installing some packages from it and see. Its possible some apt tool allready updated it
[04:55] <Dr_willis> its also possible  your sources.list entry is incorrect
[04:55] <BluesKaj> ok yes the menu is there Dr_willis but when i choose a kernel , I get the "error 15"
[04:55] <Minataku> Yo, Dr_willis
[04:55] <Minataku> Say, how did you send the package?
[04:55] <Dr_willis> Hi Minataku .
[04:55] <Minataku> I want to know if it'll be here around 2PM or 8PM
[04:55] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  at the UPS store that was next to the Hospital. :)
[04:55] <Minataku> USPS and Other respectively
[04:56] <Dr_willis> let me see the tracking #.
[04:56] <Minataku> Then it'll be 7-8PM
[04:56] <Minataku> Because UPS sucks XD
[04:56] <Dr_willis> http://iship.com/trackit/track.asp?T=1&ACCOUNTNO=AISHIP&Track=1za6r8550385787388
[04:56] <Dr_willis> 6/15/2007 3:32:00 AM ARRIVAL SCAN VIRGINIA BEACH, VA US
[04:56] <ManiDhillon> Dr_willis How can i add background image to GRUB, like is used in Fedora core?
[04:56] <Dr_willis> ManiDhillon,  no idea. I tend to REMOVE such eye-sores
[04:57] <Dr_willis> I perfer a nice white/blue grub menu
[04:57] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Sweet
[04:57] <Minataku> Dr_willis: It's out for delivery but apparantly residential customers are third-class to UPS
[04:57] <Dr_willis> News: Microsoft makes Novell-style deal with Linspire
[04:58] <Dr_willis> good old MS ...
[04:58] <Dr_willis> They are so Kind.
[04:58] <Minataku> Haha
[04:58] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: didn't that happen few days ago?
[04:58] <ManiDhillon> Dr_willis Any way if i just want grub to show only Win XP and Kubuntu on its menu then how should i edit it.
[04:58] <Tm_T> anyway, that slip to offtopic ;)
[04:58] <Minataku> I don't know why they don't just make their own distro and sell support services
[04:58] <StErGi0s> azureus crashes and getting this error again http://pastebin.ca/568358 what to do anyone knows?
[04:58] <Minataku> Red Hat seems to make out okay on that
[04:58] <Minataku> lol
[04:58] <Minataku> They'd be better off if they stopped fighting it and started embracing it
[04:59] <Minataku> Maybe we'd even get our wish, the end of Windows
[04:59] <Minataku> XD
[04:59] <Jucato> StErGi0s: you haven't install sun-java6-jre yet have you?
[04:59] <StErGi0s> Jucato: i did
[05:00] <Dr_willis> ManiDhillon,  grub uses its menu.lst for what gets shown. theres oooooodles of docs on how to confiogure that file. Its a simple text file. BACKUP YOUR original. :) and read the grub docs at the grub homepage. is the 'best' way to learn how to fix it up.
[05:00] <Jucato> StErGi0s: did you run the second command I gave?
[05:00] <StErGi0s> yep
[05:00] <StErGi0s> and it fixed my other problem
[05:00] <bonbonthejon> What is going to happen: didn't Linspire switch to using ubuntu as its base, now Linspire made a deal with M$, what does that mean for ubuntu
[05:00] <StErGi0s> but i have this with azureus
[05:00] <ManiDhillon> Dr_willis Thanks for that bro!
[05:00] <BluesKaj> gents , I'm booting into Kununtu using the super grub disc ...it's fooled by the grub menu's file too ...supergrub looks at the menu list and says it's ok , so there's someting wrong in the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:00] <Jucato> weird... why is it still trying to use the gcj java...
[05:01] <ManiDhillon> Okay guys see you later!
[05:02] <BluesKaj> anyone using dual boot windows/festy like to paste their /boot/grub/menu.lst in pastebin so i can see what's up with mine ?
[05:02] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  i alwyas uncomment the 'example' windows entry in the menu.lst to put a permenet windows line at the start of the grub menus.
[05:03] <StErGi0s> Jucato: im using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java as alternative
[05:03] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  its on line 39 in my menu.lst :)
[05:04] <BluesKaj> yeah, Dr_willis mine says : Windows 95/98/NT/2000
[05:05] <BluesKaj> uncomment all 3 lines down to the chainloader?
[05:05] <Minataku> Talk about annoying... so much Messenger spam
[05:06] <Minataku> I think I'll launch something to read the port, see what some of it says
[05:06] <Minataku> lol
[05:07] <Dr_willis> 4 lines total.
[05:08] <Dr_willis> chainloader +1 is the last line uncommented
[05:08] <[ifroog] > !AR5007EG
[05:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar5007eg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <manuel_> I LOVEEEE   LINUXXXXXXXX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:11] <Dr_willis> Why dont you marry it then!
[05:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:11] <Jucato> !caps | manuel_
[05:11] <ubotu> manuel_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:11] <eagles0513875> me too if i can get wine and world of warcraft tweaked for better frame rates
[05:12] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875, using the opengl driver for WoW ?
[05:12] <eagles0513875> i know
[05:12] <eagles0513875> i have that all working
[05:12] <Dr_willis> Ive given up on WoW. it just got .. annoying. :)
[05:12] <eagles0513875> and ill im getting is 7fps and with this one registry tweak 9 fps
[05:12] <Dr_willis> Then my brother got the accoutn banned. heh.
[05:12] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:12] <eagles0513875> how did he do that
[05:12] <Dr_willis> he was using some sort of leveling hack/bot I think.
[05:13] <eagles0513875> ahhhh ya
[05:13] <eagles0513875> a glider lol
[05:13] <Dr_willis> Playing Lord Of the Rings Online. at the moment. I much perfer it.
[05:13] <eagles0513875> i was talking to someone in my guild bout those
[05:13] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:13] <yaccin> why do i have a bug in feisty that was fixed in dapper? -_
[05:13] <Dr_willis> Cant get It working with wine at all however.
[05:13] <eagles0513875> on facebook they just added an i play wow feature that u can put the names of ur characters on ur facebook profile
[05:15] <draik> Hello everyone
[05:15] <draik> Does anyone here have DivX for their browser?
[05:15] <draik> I'm trying to get DivX for firefox, but no luck.
[05:15] <yaccin> i have xine plugin
[05:15] <Dr_willis> 0_o huh
[05:15] <yaccin> and it plays divx
[05:15] <Dr_willis> yea - what yaccin  said...
[05:15] <draik> yaccin: What is the package?
[05:16] <yaccin> uhm i dont know
[05:16] <Dr_willis> !codecs
[05:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:16] <yaccin> i didnt exactly install it
[05:16] <yaccin> divx should be w32codecs
[05:16] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[05:16] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:16] <yaccin> check the medibuntu repo
[05:16] <yaccin> it rocks :D
[05:16] <Dr_willis> !medibuntu
[05:17] <julius> how do i remove a module thats being used?
[05:17] <yaccin> !gg medibuntu
[05:17] <yaccin> :/
[05:17] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gg medibuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <julius> julius@julius-desktop:~$ rmmod saa7134_alsa
[05:17] <julius> ERROR: Module saa7134_alsa is in use
[05:18] <frojnd> does anyone know for any program that monitors and controls Download and Upload speed from all programs that uses bandwith. Like netlimiter for windows ??
[05:18] <Dr_willis> probery some iptables tools. but never  looked into it.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> I recall some how iptables could limit (it may of been an optional feature) stuff on a per user basis
[05:18] <Minataku> I DMZ'd my Linux system temporarily
[05:19] <Minataku> See if the damn torrents work now
[05:19] <Minataku> They damn well better
[05:19] <[ifroog] > Any one here with a Atheros AR5007EG ??
[05:19] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  heh heh.
[05:19] <Dr_willis> I aint been doing torrents lately. :)
[05:19] <Minataku> Heh
[05:19] <Minataku> Well, I'm on a site with enforced share ratios
[05:20] <Dr_willis> Those Sobs! :)
[05:20] <Minataku> And my piece of sh*t router is making keeping up a real f*cking pain the ass
[05:20] <Dr_willis> the only site i was on that had those.. closed down.
[05:20] <Dr_willis> they are now an IRC dcc shareing only.. so heck with them
[05:22] <draik> yaccin: I added the medibuntu repo, but I don't know what I am looking for.
[05:22] <yaccin> sudo apt-get update
[05:22] <yaccin> sudo apt-get install w32-codecs
[05:22] <Minataku> I'm grabbing stuff I don't even want because I'm damn desperate to seed SOMETHING
[05:23] <yaccin> in konqueror type: apt:/search?xine
[05:23] <yaccin> which returns for example kaffeine-mozilla
[05:23] <draik> yaccin: w32codecs. I already have that
[05:23] <yaccin> sudo apt-get isntall kaffeine-mozilla
[05:23] <yaccin> *install
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  heh heh.. cant see the stuff ya allready got downloaded eh.
[05:24] <ManiDhillon> ? Opera
[05:24] <draik> yaccin: kaffeine-mozilla launches the kaffeine app. I don't want it to launch, I want it to be within the browser.
[05:24] <yaccin> hmm i do have that
[05:24] <ManiDhillon> How to Install opera?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> !opera
[05:25] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:25] <Dr_willis> I go get the Deb package and isntgall it
[05:25] <Dr_willis>  sudo apt-get install opera
[05:25] <Dr_willis> worked for me just now also. :)
[05:26] <draik> yaccin: you have what?
[05:26] <yaccin> it doesnt launch kaffeine here
[05:26] <yaccin> only if its a download-link and not embedded
[05:27] <draik> yaccin: Ok. I will try. Last I recall, it would open them all
[05:28] <Minataku> Oh, well
[05:28] <Minataku> I suppose it's a good chance to explore things I normally wouldn't have
[05:28] <draik> yaccin: Sorry. I didn't mean to say you were wrong, just my experience. Thank you. It seems to have worked.
[05:29] <Minataku> Oh, the minimum is at 5GB, not 1GB
[05:29] <Minataku> Panicing over nothing >.<
[05:30] <Minataku> Drop out of the DMZ and look into fixing it normally
[05:30] <draik> yaccin: Can you do me a small favor. I don't know if maybe I don't have my firefox properly configured
[05:30] <Minataku> I'm just experimenting, BTW, nothing illegal here >.>
[05:30] <yaccin> i dont use ff
[05:30] <yaccin> ^^
[05:30] <draik> Oh
[05:30] <draik> Nevermind then. Thanks
[05:30] <yaccin> np :)
[05:31] <draik> Dr_willis: do you use firefox with kaffeine-mozilla?
[05:31] <yaccin> can somebody tell me, why i have the "format toolbar in kopete is always displayed for a few protocolls" bug that was fixed a while ago in edgy? -_-
[05:31] <Dr_willis> I normally download the videos then watch them outside thebowser. :0
[05:31] <Dr_willis> Icant reacall the last time i watched a video in the brower. other then youtube stuff
[05:32] <Minataku> Heehee
[05:32] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I know with at least one place...
[05:32] <Minataku> You can snag the FLVs out of /tmp
[05:32] <Minataku> Let it stream in, then cp them out of there
[05:33] <Dr_willis> Yep. I got a flash grabber thing for firefox. and theres a web siute that can get/convert them to avi also
[05:33] <Dr_willis> http://www.adultswim.com/index2.html
[05:33] <Dr_willis> lets see what they got on to watch! :0
[05:33] <Minataku> Heh
[05:34] <Minataku> Dr_willis: That's the site, BTW
[05:34] <Minataku> XD
[05:34] <Minataku> It streams into /tmp
[05:34] <Dr_willis> the video at the top right is working for me at that site.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> is that flash? heh
[05:34] <Minataku> As Flash@@@@@@ where @ is a character 0-9,a-z,A-Z
[05:34] <Minataku> And at least my mplayer plays FLVs straight
[05:34] <Minataku> It's just Sorenson Spark 6 video + I think plain old MP3
[05:35] <Minataku> Accuracy of statements not guaranteed
[05:37] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I can't remember if I told you, but my Ultra 1 is worse off than I thought
[05:38] <Minataku> Not only does it have a bad CG6, it has a bad SCSI adapter
[05:38] <Minataku> I'm hoping it's just a blown termination power fuse
[05:38] <Minataku> Otherwise it'll be dismantled
[05:39] <Dr_willis> heh
[05:39] <Minataku> Thankfully I had the foresight to not commission it after two weeks (I didn't even get to it in that time)
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Im debating what to do with the spare pc/cases I got in the basement. :)
[05:39] <Dr_willis> make another fileserver.. or just let them sit. heh. The cases are the most valueable part.
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Could put my LS120 drive in one and have a PuppyLinux box.
[05:40] <Minataku> Heh
[05:40] <Dr_willis> darn it. the flash->avi site aint working for AdultSwim!
[05:40] <Minataku> Cases are the least valuable to me
[05:41] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Don't bother, or grab the FLVs out of /tmp
[05:41] <Minataku> Let them stream all the way in by pausing, then look in /tmp for a file named Flash$$$$$$ where $ is [0-9a-zA-Z] 
[05:42] <Minataku> Also, ASV is really shoddy on Fridays
[05:42] <Dr_willis> i need them in avi format - for my GP2x to watch at work. :0
[05:42] <Minataku> Since that's when they change the videos
[05:42] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Transcoding might work
[05:43] <Dr_willis> http://vixy.net/   Online FLV Converter : Download online videos direct to PC / iPod / PSP. It's free!
[05:43] <Dr_willis> works for youtube - but not AS. :(
[05:43] <Dr_willis> i guess i learn how to do it manually with ffmpeg. :0
[05:43] <Dr_willis> somdasy
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Gotta love SquidBillies. :)
[05:45] <Dr_willis> http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=8a25c39213015f49011301b05fc9009a
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Remindes me of my Last Faimly Reunion.
[05:46] <Dr_willis> well bbl
[05:47] <Minataku> Heh
[05:47] <Minataku> That's what I'm trying to do, transcode it manually >.<
[05:49] <shootthecore> Hey guys! I was just wondering what new features Gusty will have
[05:49] <shootthecore> I heard also today about the dualscreen support
[05:50] <Castr0> sweet
[05:50] <Minataku> Got it
[05:58] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> phew
[05:58] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> can you people help me please?
[05:59] <zipper> anyone know how to add ones windows installation to grub?
[05:59] <jhutchins> pC^ViciouZ^byop: How would we know unless you tell us what's wrong?
[05:59] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> i messed up my system by using alien
[05:59] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> seeing as i'm a total newb i now know i shouldn't
[05:59] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> basically adept couldn't find libgtk-1.2
[05:59] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> which i needed for a game
[06:00] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> but i could find RPMs of it on google
[06:00] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> so i installed it using alien
[06:00] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> and now i can't uninstall it
[06:00] <jhutchins> !enter | pC^ViciouZ^byop
[06:00] <ubotu> pC^ViciouZ^byop: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:00] <jhutchins> pC^ViciouZ^byop: Why can't you uninstall it?
[06:01] <DevDiL> hi all
[06:01] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> I don't know the name of the installed components
[06:01] <DevDiL> I install my connection Net
[06:01] <jhutchins> pC^ViciouZ^byop: Uninstall the package.
[06:02] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> I don't know the name of the package, that's the problem
[06:02] <DevDiL> with a modem Huawei
[06:02] <jhutchins> pC^ViciouZ^byop: Does alien install it, or does it just convert the rpm to a deb?
[06:02] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> It installed it
[06:02] <DevDiL> with a modem Huawei EC325
[06:02] <jhutchins> pC^ViciouZ^byop: So check the documentation for alien on uninstalling.  Chances are the package name didn't change.
[06:03] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> I used man alien
[06:04] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> It doesn't uninstall packages
[06:04] <jhutchins> pC^ViciouZ^byop: This will give you information on searching for and uninstalling packages with apt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[06:04] <DevDiL> i want to keep connection alive without closin Terminal
[06:04] <DevDiL> because I use Huawei EC325
[06:04] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> Oops, sorry for using enter too much, I'll check the link. Thanks.
[06:04] <Minataku> USING PACKAGES FROM ANOTHER DISTRIBUTION IS HIGHLY DISCOURAGED
[06:04] <jhutchins> pC^ViciouZ^byop: You can find the libgtk-1.2 file and determine what package is associated with it, then uninstall that package.
[06:04] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> I noticed after I'd done it.
[06:05] <ares> hi can someone help me chaning the grub?i want to change it so it starts windows Xp if nothing is changed instead of kubuntu
[06:05] <Minataku> 99% of the time all you'll get for your trouble... is more trouble
[06:05] <crowbar> Minataku: Don't you mean encouraged?
[06:05] <jhutchins> pC^ViciouZ^byop: I'd just try uninstalling the package as if it had been a deb.
[06:05] <Minataku> crowbar: No
[06:05] <jhutchins> Minataku: He's already installed it, that doesn't really help.
[06:05] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> I will, when I find what i need to uninstall.
[06:05] <Minataku> jhutchins: Well... can't get there in time for all of them
[06:05] <jhutchins> pC^ViciouZ^byop: You can find the libgtk-1.2 file and determine what package is associated with it, then uninstall that package.
[06:05] <jhutchins> pC^ViciouZ^byop: I'd just try uninstalling the package as if it had been a deb.
[06:06] <crowbar> pC^ViciouZ^byop: I'm pretty sure alien doesn't install the package.  It just creates a deb from the rpm and leaves that in the same directory as the rpm.   Are you even sure the package installed?
[06:06] <DevDiL> i want to keep connection alive without closin Terminal I use Huawei EC325
[06:06] <Jucato> !away > [ifroog] 
[06:06] <ares> no one?
[06:06] <jhutchins> I totally b0rked an early redhat machine by installing a bunch of mandriva packages on it.  Clean re-installs are a part of learning linux.
[06:07] <Minataku> DevDiL: That's probably not an option
[06:07] <DevDiL> help me please
[06:07] <[ifroog] > sorry..
[06:07] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> Yes, because now hen I try to install libgtk-1.2 in apt, it stops installation because it may break packages in commit.
[06:07] <Minataku> The ISP is gonna drop the connection if it's idle
[06:07] <DevDiL> ?
[06:07] <crowbar> ares: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34393
[06:08] <crowbar> ares: Read bored2k's post.
[06:08] <Minataku> No VERSION reply... suspicious.
[06:09] <DevDiL> I install the modem
[06:09] <DevDiL> but when i close terminal
[06:09] <DevDiL> i disconnect
[06:09] <Minataku> Woah, lag
[06:09] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> I think i might just reinstall; as you say, it's a part of using linux.
[06:09] <Minataku> DevDiL: If English isn't your first language, we have localized assistance
[06:10] <DevDiL> Minataku , I install the modem but when I close terminal my connection is down
[06:10] <Minataku> DevDiL: Right, because whatever program you're connecting with terminates along with the terminal
[06:11] <DevDiL> so how can i resolve the probelm
[06:11] <DevDiL> somebody here speak english
[06:11] <DevDiL> somebody here speak frensh
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> yes we speak english ffs.
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> launch the program as a background process?
[06:13] <Minataku> !fr | DevDiL
[06:13] <ubotu> DevDiL: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:15] <DevDiL> merci bien
[06:15] <ares> crowbar:  i cant find it via apt-get :(
[06:15] <crowbar> DevDiL: You can try using screen.
[06:16] <crowbar> ares: If you are comforatble editing config files by hand you can take a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst   Read the entire file and you should be able to understand it yourself.  make sure you back it up before you make any changes.
[06:17] <crowbar> And have a live cd handy in case you bork it.
[06:17] <invite> Hello
[06:18] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> I though I should try something like Kubuntu before diving head first into the murky waters of Slackware.
[06:19] <ares> crowbar: not really i just startet with linux :(
[06:19] <ares> i mean i was able to edit it with nano i just dont know what and how
[06:19] <ares> to edit
[06:19] <invite> hello
[06:19] <Minataku> wb, Dr_willis
[06:20] <crowbar> ares: the simplest way for you to get what you want to is open the file and remove the savedefault line from every entry except the windows entry.
[06:20] <invite> Has someone encountered freezing problems while using KDE?
[06:21] <invite> And especially with application aMule?
[06:21] <crowbar> ares: you can also move teh 5 lines starting with title Microsoft Windows XP Professional and ending with chainloader +1 to the top of the list
[06:21] <invite> I've encountered some problems while using this propgram on my KDE laptop
[06:22] <invite> ...
[06:22] <invite> :)
[06:22] <invite> :-)
[06:23] <Minataku> I've encountered problems with just aMule... namely the problem that it sucks >.>
[06:23] <invite> ...
[06:23] <william_> Hi guys
[06:23] <Minataku> No freezing, though, sorry
[06:23] <ares> crowbar: how can i mark the lines?
[06:23] <invite> hello
[06:23] <crowbar> invite: Please don't be so impatient.
[06:23] <invite> What kind of problem did you encoutered, so?
[06:23] <william_> who of you can help me in installing my MSI NX8600GT card in Kubuntu 7.04
[06:23] <llutz> Minataku: that's not a new problem :)
[06:23] <Minataku> invite: Nothing, it was just lousy
[06:23] <crowbar> ares: it is probably easier for you to use kate instead of nano.  in your terminal type sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst and you'll be able to use the mouse.
[06:24] <Minataku> invite: Sorry, I'm messing with you
[06:24] <ares> k thank
[06:24] <invite> Sorry for being impatient.
[06:24] <Minataku> I'ma go so I don't make any more bad jokes... not that leaving will stop them when I come back XD
[06:24] <crowbar> invite: It's cool.  aMule really isn't so great.   Personally I prefer limewire.  Might want to check that out
[06:24] <william_> who of you can help me install my MSI new NX8600GT card in Kubuntu 7.04
[06:24] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> gtk-gnutella
[06:25] <morph351> hello
[06:25] <Mesterlovesz> cs
[06:25] <Mesterlovesz> xDDDDD
[06:26] <Mesterlovesz> '-.-
[06:26] <Mesterlovesz> hi all
[06:26] <invite> limewire? I still don't know this program...
[06:26] <morph351> I was wondering if I could install the kubuntu 64bit live cd on an intel laptop "dell xps m1210"
[06:26] <ares> crowbar:
[06:26] <ares> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:26] <ares> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:26] <pC^ViciouZ^byop> just a generic p2p spyware infested pos.
[06:26] <crowbar> ares: Are you running on the kde desktop right now?  or are you logged in to a console(text only) screen?
[06:27] <ares> crowbar:  kde
[06:28] <crowbar> ares: Oh wow, it didn't work for me either.   heh.  I use vi.  guess i've never actually tried kate.. oops
[06:28] <invite> crowbar: ok, thanks for the advice. I will try using limewire in replacement of amule.
[06:28] <crowbar> invite: good luck.
[06:28] <crowbar> ares: I take that back.   sudo kate does work for me.
[06:28] <invite> crowbar: thx
[06:29] <morph351> i just installed beryl on my kubuntu 7.04 with nvidia drivers and the border is missing
[06:29] <venik212> I am having trouble connecting a 500 gb USB drive to my Kubuntu Feisty
[06:30] <crowbar> ares: you can use nano.  hit ctrl+K to cut a line of text and then ctrl+U to paste it.  just do that 5 times and then hit ctrl+X to save the file.
[06:30] <morph351> border foe the windows
[06:30] <venik212> It sees the drive, but when I try to write to it, it complains it cannot do it
[06:31] <champollion> Hi all
[06:31] <champollion> how can i overwrite the sources.list ?
[06:32] <crowbar> champollion: Overwrite it for what purpose?
[06:32] <ares> champollion: start it with rights sudo nano /xy/yx/sources.list for example
[06:32] <william_> Hey guys, who of you can help me install my MSI new NX8600GT card in Kubuntu 7.04
[06:33] <champollion> update
[06:33] <william_> I'm trying for two days now but I just can't get it to work
[06:34] <ares> champollion:  try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:35] <ares> cr
[06:35] <ares> crowbar: i cant answer you via pm
[06:35] <champollion> ok, it done
[06:35] <crowbar> ares: You should register your account.
[06:36] <crowbar> But never mind.  i need to get back to work.
[06:36] <ares> to answer your question yes i was in a temrinal
[06:36] <ares> still thank for your help
[06:36] <ares> i edited the file
[06:36] <crowbar> ares: That's an odd problem.   just typing kate should open a kate window.   good luck on the reboot :)  hopefully you don't get any bad surprises.
[06:36] <BluesKaj> How is the grub menu linked to fstab , or is it ?
[06:37] <llutz> BluesKaj: it isn't
[06:37] <llutz> BluesKaj: it just tells the kernel where the root-fs resides
[06:37] <champollion> thank you ares, it works
[06:38] <ares> your welcome
[06:38] <ares> You just needed "right" to edit it
[06:38] <BluesKaj> the supregrub disk sees the grub menu and declares it fine .. but it isn't , i keep getting the dreaded error 15 file not found ...tried reinsatalling grub to avail ...same error
[06:38] <ares> thats why sudo
[06:39] <morph351> anyone running beryl here?
[06:39] <venik212> can anyone help with using a USB drive under Feisty Kubuntu?
[06:40] <BluesKaj> llutz, it would be nice if grub knew where the root file system was so it could boot
[06:42] <Lunar_Lamp> !qt
[06:42] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[06:43] <ManiDhillon> hi
[06:44] <ManiDhillon> How to Install WINE?
[06:44] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:44] <Dr_willis> !wine
[06:44] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> >hic<
[06:45] <Dr_willis> venik212,  whats the problem with it?
[06:45] <venik212> cannot write to it
[06:45] <Dr_willis> let me guess. NTFS filesystem?
[06:45] <venik212> the system sees it, but when I try to write, it says it cannot do it
[06:45] <venik212> I think so, but not sure
[06:45] <venik212> I just got it out of the box
[06:45] <Dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l
[06:46] <BluesKaj> llutz, i have to keep using the supergrub disk to "boot direct" into linux totally bypassing the grub menu...the grub/stage1 is not recognized or is hidden somewhow
[06:46] <Dr_willis> to see what filesystems it is.
[06:46] <Dr_willis> venik212,  is this to be a linux only usb drive?
[06:46] <Dr_willis> or are you refering to a little usb-thumb drive?
[06:46] <venik212> I would prefer to use it with both XP and Linux
[06:46] <llutz> BluesKaj: even after reinstalling grub?
[06:47] <venik212> does that mean I have to format it as FAT32?
[06:47] <BluesKaj> yes
[06:47] <Dr_willis> venik212,  not really. but it may be handier/safer to have it be fat32
[06:47] <venik212> no, this is a 500 gb USB drive
[06:47] <Dr_willis> 500gb is over the fat32 limit i think.
[06:47] <venik212> how do I change it to fat32?
[06:48] <llutz> BluesKaj: is it a really really old PC with your /boot/grub behind 1024-cylinder border and BIOS can't see that?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> you can read/write ntfs drives under linux. its just has some 'risk'
[06:48] <venik212> XP should be able to read NTFS, though
[06:48] <Dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[06:48] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:48] <Dr_willis> check the bots URL.
[06:48] <venik212> thanks
[06:49] <venik212> I'll look at this url
[06:49] <llutz> Dr_willis: fat32 is ok up to 2TB
[06:49] <BluesKaj> no llutz it's a AMD64 3200+ Venice
[06:49] <llutz> BluesKaj: no idea then, sry
[06:49] <venik212> this is a mere 0.5 TB
[06:49] <venik212> ;-)
[06:50] <BluesKaj> llutz, this happened after upgrading the kernel on synaptic yesterday
[06:50] <Dr_willis> llutz,   cool. :)  I seem to recall at one time there was some issue - it may be that windowsxp dont want to LET you format anything over a speicfic size as fat32
[06:50] <Dr_willis> !info  ntfs-config
[06:50] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[06:50] <llutz> Dr_willis: that's the point, xp/w2k refuse to format fat32 >32GB by default
[06:50] <Dr_willis> I just used that ntfs-config program. :)
[06:51] <Dr_willis> llutz,  that may be why people think thers a limit then.
[06:51] <Dr_willis> Nice of MS to force us into things eh.
[06:51] <llutz> Dr_willis: we early learned: never trust an american :)
[06:52] <Dr_willis> llutz,  never trust a coporation. :)
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Hmm that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions   is not one of the better wiki pages ive seen....
[06:52] <Dr_willis> its downright.. well.. bla. :)
[06:53] <venik212> the instructions on the URL are for Gnome, and they call for something called NTFS Configuration tool.  What is it under Kubuntu?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> !info  ntfs-config
[06:54] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[06:54] <Dr_willis> thats why i posted that earlier. :) heh
[06:54] <Dr_willis> one step ahead of ya
[06:54] <Dr_willis> unl;ess theres some OTHJEr similer tool out.
[06:55] <Dr_willis> since it says 'optional' not sure if thats installed by default on ubuntu, or if ubuntu has yet another similer tool.
[06:57] <venik212> why does it show me TWO partitions, when I plugged only one USB drive?
[06:57] <Dr_willis> see what 'sudo fdisk -l' shows.. perhaps its showing your OTHEr windows drives as well
[06:57] <ManiDhillon> msg NickServ IDENTIFY animani!@
[06:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:57] <yell0w> hey guys, how do i change the default kde editor from kate to something else ?
[06:58] <Lunar_Lamp> yell0w, system settings > default applications
[06:58] <ManiDhillon> !repositries
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repositries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <ManiDhillon> !Opera
[06:59] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[06:59] <yell0w> Lunar_Lamp, uhm which config file would that be ?
[06:59] <Lunar_Lamp> yell0w, no config file, just open up "system settings" (or kcontrol on the command line).
[07:00] <ManiDhillon> !Beryl
[07:00] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:00] <ManiDhillon> !free Softwares
[07:00] <BluesKaj> !error15
[07:00] <Lunar_Lamp> yell0w, hmm, actually, i think that's just the embedded text editor
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about free softwares - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about error15 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <venik212> fdisk -l shows the USB drive as a single drive, but no start-end information is shown
[07:00] <venik212> I am lost...
[07:01] <ManiDhillon> !Wine for Kubuntu
[07:01] <ManiDhillon>  !Wine for Kubuntu
[07:02] <ManiDhillon> !Wine Kubuntu
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wine kubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <Lunar_Lamp> !wine > ManiDhillon
[07:02] <venik212> the two partitions shown are two small boot partitions
[07:02] <yell0w> Lunar_Lamp, kcontrol works. it was in component >> file assoc >> text
[07:02] <yell0w> Thanks!
[07:03] <Lunar_Lamp> yell0w, ah ok :-)
[07:03] <draik> Today is such a tiring day
[07:04] <ManiDhillon> !KDE
[07:04] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[07:05] <polopolo> Can I come here for tribe problems
[07:05] <polopolo> !tyt
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tyt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <ubuntu> Uhh.... Greetings... :-)
[07:08] <trakinas> hello all
[07:08] <trakinas> i really need help building a custom kernel.
[07:08] <jacques> hello
[07:09] <polopolo> Can I come for tribe problems here?
[07:09] <polopolo> !ontopic
[07:09] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the Kubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:09] <polopolo> thank you all
[07:09] <ManiDhillon> !Update KDE
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update kde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <polopolo> !update | KDE
[07:09] <ubotu> KDE: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[07:09] <polopolo> you mean?
[07:10] <ManiDhillon> !kde
[07:10] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[07:10] <Trel_> Does anyone know how to get the 7.04 Live DVD to be able to access NTFS partitions?
[07:10] <navets> hey does anyone here know how I can add more to the kubuntu meta-package?
[07:11] <ManiDhillon> !gmail
[07:11] <ubotu> gmail is a webmail service. For information on using it with Evolution see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[07:11] <ManiDhillon> !konqueror
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <jacques> I upgraded to gutsy and my wireless is not working now
[07:11] <jacques> does anybody got this problem before?
[07:11] <Shock> guys, i installed kmail it doesn't show up in the start menu; what do i do to get it there?
[07:12] <trakinas> so... i have this config.custom file.
[07:12] <trakinas> and i also have this debian way line ""make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd --append-to-version=-some-string-here kernel-image kernel-headers", where i dont know how to fill up the parameters.
[07:12] <trakinas> anyone?
[07:13] <sparr> My games that use OSS have static/clicking in the audio.  I use a realtek alc883 and nvidia mcp61, onboard.  it sounds like this http://sparr.homeip.net/static.ogg .  Upgrading to kernel 2.6.22 didnt help.  Any ideas?
[07:15] <Silent_G> hello
[07:15] <trakinas> hi
[07:15] <glauco1> hi
[07:15] <Silent_G> can somebody tell me how or what creates /usr/src/xc ?
[07:16] <glauco1> i have a canoscan lide 20
[07:16] <Silent_G> cause im getting this error , cp: target `/usr/src/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/' is not a directory: No such file or directory
[07:16] <glauco1> how i can install it?
[07:16] <[ifroog] > hi, any one here has an account at godaddy ?
[07:16] <[ifroog] > pls pm..
[07:17] <Minataku> Dr_willis: You get those memos? :3
[07:17] <visham> nmap freezes my adsl modem
[07:17] <glauco1> pleas respond me
[07:17] <Minataku> !scanner
[07:17] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[07:18] <Minataku> That's to you, glauco1
[07:18] <glauco1> tank;)
[07:18] <Shock> [ifroog] : i do
[07:18] <[ifroog] > Shock, could i pm You ?
[07:18] <Silent_G> Minataku:
[07:18] <Shock> yea
[07:19] <visham> nmap problem pls help
[07:20] <Minataku> Silent_G: I've never heard of this "xc"
[07:20] <Minataku> visham: No idea how to, sorry
[07:20] <Silent_G> its a directory in /usr/src :S
[07:20] <Silent_G> something creates it
[07:21] <Silent_G> could be where Xfree86 installs?
[07:21] <Minataku> Silent_G: It looks like it wants to save stuff to there
[07:21] <Minataku> So just sudo mkdir all the pieces of the tree
[07:21] <Silent_G> yeah
[07:21] <Silent_G> :/
[07:21] <Minataku> cd /usr/src
[07:21] <Minataku> sudo mkdir xc
[07:22] <Silent_G> but will it work like that?
[07:22] <Minataku> Silent_G: I don't see why it shouldn't
[07:22] <glauco1> xsane and kooka crash
[07:22] <glauco1> :
[07:22] <Minataku> Worth a shot at the very least, right?
[07:22] <Silent_G> ok i will
[07:22] <Minataku> glauco1: Never used a scanner or scanner software, so no idea, sorry
[07:22] <trakinas> i wanna make my dvd drive work on kubuntu, anyone able to help me to custom my kernel?
[07:22] <Silent_G> this is the full directory , /usr/src/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/
[07:23] <glauco1> ok
[07:23] <Minataku> Silent_G: Just make that whole thing then
[07:23] <trakinas> glauco1: is probably the driver. but i cant help much either.
[07:23] <Minataku> trakinas: It should just work
[07:23] <Minataku> It's probably just an IDE device
[07:24] <Minataku> Which should pretty much work unconditionally
[07:27] <iarwain_> hiya, anyone know why my amarok is just freezing on me? no errors or anything, just freezing.
[07:30] <Victor054> hailz all
[07:32] <Victor054> gonna install 7.04
[07:32] <Victor054> hope to get beryl working also
[07:33] <Victor054> any advice?
[07:33] <trakinas> Minataku: yep. but Im getting i/o errors while in gentoo i dunno.
[07:35] <trakinas> and i think it is because of 2 things: 1). scsi emulation (?) - sc* instead of hd* 2). no joilet support - but i doubt it! I have a bunch of disks recorded on gentoo and they dont work either
[07:36] <navets> how to I create a shortcut to a folder?
[07:37] <trakinas> navets: on command line or on kde?
[07:37] <navets> kde
[07:37] <navets> or command line
[07:37] <trakinas> you can create a link to that folder.
[07:37] <trakinas> on kde it is intuitive... left click and you will be done...
[07:38] <trakinas> on command line you will have to use the "ln (link)" command.
[07:38] <savetheWorld> left click?
[07:38] <navets> what do you mean left click and done?
[07:38] <trakinas> man ln, or google about how to use it properly
[07:38] <savetheWorld> Maybe right click?
[07:38] <trakinas> right click
[07:38] <trakinas> my mistake
[07:39] <savetheWorld> trakinas: iits normal - everything looks the other way thru the monitor..... :-)
[07:39] <trakinas> navets: right click. my mistake. i kind of though right and wrote left.
[07:39] <trakinas> savetheWorld: lol
[07:39] <trakinas> *thought
[07:40] <trakinas> so guys... help me making my device work properly here without telling me switching back to gentoo..
[07:40] <navets> trakinas: thanks, I never say the "link here" option haha
[07:40] <trakinas> =P
[07:41] <navets> would anyone here be able to help me out with my opengl
[07:42] <navets> it doesn't work properly
[07:42] <trakinas> navets: which chipset? forget it if it is sis
[07:42] <navets> I used wine to install warcraft 3 and it works but its real choppy. when I use opengl its fast but the colors are messed up
[07:42] <navets> trakinas: i810
[07:43] <trakinas> im telling you guys! we should compute how many persons comes here with intel chips problem.
[07:44] <navets> stupid intel
[07:44] <navets> i need a fricken nvidia
[07:45] <Shock> how can I add a start menu entry for kmail for all users in the system?
[07:45] <coreymon77> !nvidia | navets
[07:45] <ubotu> navets: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:46] <trakinas> !sis
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <navets> coreymon77: I have an intel onboard card
[07:47] <llutz> Shock: use kmenuedit
[07:47] <trakinas> sis is so awesome that it even dont have an entry on the bot
[07:47] <Shock> llutz: won't that only add it for me?
[07:47] <DarkED> uh question, can i stop kde from moving files from my external HDD to my local trash when i delete them?
[07:47] <trakinas> Minataku: which kernel do you use?
[07:48] <Baitman> DarkED, shift + delete?
[07:49] <DarkED> Baitman: yeah, that's insta-delete... i still want them to go in the 'trash' can, just not on my local drive
[07:49] <Baitman> ahh
[07:49] <navets> how do I open a .rar ?
[07:49] <DarkED> navets: with Ark
[07:50] <DarkED> i'm pretty sure it can read rar files
[07:50] <navets> DarkED: it says the utility is not in my part
[07:50] <navets> in my path*
[07:50] <DarkED> eh?
[07:50] <pag> navets, install unrar
[07:50] <pag> !info unrar | navets
[07:50] <ubotu> navets: unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB
[07:51] <mindslant> Howdy,  I got a couple of problems.  I'm running Kubuntu 7.04 64 bit.  My computer gets stuck trying to shutdown, restart, or log out.  Also, sometimes when I startup theres no sound
[07:51] <navets> can i apt-get unrar ?
[07:51] <DarkED> mindslant: i have the same shutdown/logout/reboot issues, running 7.04 32bit
[07:51] <pag> navets, sudo apt-get install unrar   make sure you have multiverse enabled
[07:51] <chanfle> hi all
[07:51] <DarkED> every now and then it just hangs while rebooting
[07:51] <navets> pag: done thanks
[07:52] <pag> np :)
[07:52] <mindslant> I did try to install bery recently and that might have been what started it
[07:52] <chanfle> i downloaded the firefox 2.0 but when i run the firefox not display the browser
[07:52] <mindslant> any ideas DarkED?
[07:52] <kim3984> how can I determine CPU and RAM on my machine?
[07:52] <chanfle> this is the mesagge
[07:52] <chanfle> user@user-desktop:~/firefox$ ./firefox
[07:52] <chanfle> ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:52] <DarkED> mindslant: nope, ubuntu has pretty much always done that for me, on all of my systems. i just hit the power button when it hangs
[07:52] <chanfle> what i do for fix issue?
[07:53] <mindslant> DarkED, what about possible damage to the harddrive
[07:53] <pag> chanfle, open konsole and type (or copy-paste): sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[07:53] <crowbar> chanfle: you need to install libstdc++ for that to work.   What is wrong with using the firefox in the repository?
[07:53] <DarkED> mindslant: what? damage from hitting the power off switch? lol, i havent worried about that since 1999 :)
[07:53] <mindslant> ?
[07:54] <DarkED> mindslant: in my experience, shutting my system off has never affected my hard drive's integrity... and i've been doing it for eight years, so yeah
[07:54] <navets> is there a winamp for ubuntu?
[07:54] <DarkED> mindslant: uh with the switch i mean
[07:54] <navets> or kubuntu
[07:54] <DarkED> navets: XMMS
[07:54] <pag> navets, Amarok is better :)
[07:54] <trakinas> navets: audacious
[07:54] <trakinas> pag: i really prefer audacious over amarok
[07:54] <DarkED> navets: but yeah, Amarok is way better ;_
[07:55] <kim3984> how can I determine my CPU and RAM?
[07:55] <trakinas> kim3984: top
[07:55] <trakinas> on konsole.
[07:55] <crowbar> kim3984: in console type cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:55] <SlimeyPete> kicat /proc/cpuinfo foryourc
[07:55] <SlimeyPete> cpu
[07:55] <navets> does anyone know where If I can find a list of the internet stations that winamp has for amorak?
[07:55] <trakinas> navets: audacious is like XMMS, but with a newly gui.
[07:55] <trakinas> look for it on goolge. :] ] 
[07:56] <DarkED> navets: um... i dont think amarok supports internet radio... does it guys?
[07:56] <navets> trakinas: and I can just link it up to amorak?
[07:56] <chanfle> crowbar: thanks on this moment i install the firefox with apt-get, but what version will install?
[07:56] <crowbar> chanfle: if you are using feisty it will install 2.0.0.4
[07:56] <DarkED> navets: eh amarok is a music player, like winamp... it's not a part of winamp :)
[07:56] <trakinas> navets: amarok in more like itunes or other player-library programs.
[07:57] <chanfle> crowbar: yes i use kubuntu 7.04
[07:57] <trakinas> DarkED: not sure. i use quodlibet or audacious.
[07:57] <kim3984> ty trakinas and crowbar .  I imagine cat /proc/meminfo corresponds to my RAM right?
[07:57] <crowbar> darked it certainly does internet radio, listening right now.
[07:57] <pag> navets, try playlists -> Radio Streams -> Shoutcast  it might be the thing you're looking for?
[07:57] <DarkED> trakinas: i use amarok but never listen to internet radio, i have a slow connection
[07:57] <crowbar> kim3984: Good eye.  I've never  noticed that before.  yes it does.
[07:57] <DarkED> crowbar: well then, so it does :)
[07:57] <navets> pag: k thx ill try it out
[07:57] <kim3984> awesome :)
[07:57] <trakinas> DarkED: amarok crashs when trying to listen to internet radio
[07:57] <crowbar> kim3984: Thanks :)
[07:57] <kim3984> crowbar, no thank u :)
[07:58] <trakinas> and they usually plays 3 nice songs and 900 boring songs
[07:58] <DarkED> trakinas: ahh... well then, good thing i keep all my music locally :)
[08:00] <Stratys> afternoon all
[08:00] <trakinas> noon!
[08:00] <Stratys> I have question about installing print drivers
[08:00] <Stratys> can anyone help?
[08:00] <Stratys> I am running kubuntu
[08:00] <jhutchins_lt> We can't know unless you tell us what the problem is.
[08:01] <jhutchins_lt> !enter
[08:01] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:02] <crowbar> Stratys: If you ask your question straight away someone is likely to respond.  If you ask "can anyone help?" none of the 400 people are are likely to respond positively.
[08:02] <Stratys> I  have configured the file that I downloaded....but when i try to do a make or make install I get an error on the console
[08:02] <kim3984> apparently this computer is using a 400 mhz processor.  since KDE is very sluggish, what is an alternative?  need something lightweight.. not much overhead
[08:02] <Stratys> crowbar thankyou I will try not to do that again
[08:02] <crowbar> Stratys: What printer model and what file did you dowload?
[08:03] <crowbar> kim3984: xfce is nice.  GTK based.   apt-get install xubuntu-desktop if you want to try it out.
[08:03] <kim3984> awesome crowbar thanks again will do
[08:03] <kim3984> I've heard of that one before
[08:03] <crowbar> kim3984: Or you can try turning off kde eye candy.
[08:03] <kim3984> mk
[08:04] <Stratys> crowbar I have an Epson stylus 880 and the file is pips-sc880-2.1.2.tar.gz
[08:05] <kim3984> if packages cannot be authenticated, is it still semi safe to install?
[08:06] <crowbar> kim3984: Depends on your definition of safe.  If it isn't signed, you can't verify where it came from.  That doesn't mean it is insecure or compromised though.
[08:06] <kim3984> ok np
[08:07] <Baitman> Anyone have restart problems with ubutnu?
[08:07] <crowbar> Stratys: Why did you download the driver?  You can use the add printer wizard to add your Epson Stylus 880.
[08:07] <Stratys> crowbar it does not have the 880 listed
[08:08] <navets> is there a linux audio player that supports the same internet radio as winamp and WMP ?
[08:08] <crowbar> Stratys: When you click the Printers icon in System Settings, look to the bottom right of the printers dialog.  Change "Print system currently used" to Cups.  Then you should be able to click add and choose the epson stylus 880
[08:09] <Stratys> crowbar I am using cups and the 880 is not in there
[08:10] <trakinas> navets: audacious
[08:10] <trakinas> =P
[08:10] <trakinas> audacious supports shoutcast/icecast, just like winamp
[08:10] <trakinas> not sure about other protocols.
[08:10] <trakinas> but i can listen to most bbc programs on it.
[08:10] <crowbar> Stratys: I see it on my Add Printer wizard.  When I choose Epson under manufacturer, then under Model I choose Stylus Color 880
[08:11] <navets> trakinas: k im tryin it right now
[08:11] <venik212> OK, friends, what am I doing wrong?
[08:11] <trakinas> navets: :] ] 
[08:12] <chanfle> how i do for read my other hhd, but the disk is ntfs?
[08:12] <crowbar> venik212: You aren't asking us a question we can answer, for one.
[08:12] <venik212> I have a USB disk (500 gb) mounted.  DiskFree shows it with its size, etc.
[08:12] <crowbar> oh, there we go :)
[08:12] <venik212> but when I try to write to it, it says: Access denied
[08:12] <crowbar> venik212: ntfs-3g didn't work?
[08:13] <venik212> I installed it, but I am still not able to write to this drive
[08:13] <coreymon77> venik212: dont write to ntfs
[08:13] <coreymon77> venik212: its not worth the trouble and it was too dangerous
[08:13] <venik212> can you be a little more vague?
[08:14] <venik212> I want to use it as I use any drive
[08:14] <venik212> it works that way in XP
[08:14] <trakinas> venik212: it isnt safe to write in ntfs partitions.
[08:14] <coreymon77> venik212: still, dont
[08:14] <coreymon77> venik212: its not safe
[08:14] <venik212> ok-- tell me what to do
[08:14] <coreymon77> venik212: what do you mean by what to do
[08:14] <trakinas> it works wonderful on XP because XP is ntfs. ntfs is ms and etc etc
[08:15] <trakinas> format it as ext3 or fat32. =P
[08:15] <coreymon77> venik212: but on any other operating system, ntfs will not work
[08:15] <venik212> I want to use it as I use any drive-- drag to it, read from it, etc
[08:15] <crowbar> venik212: Is there anything on the drive?
[08:15] <venik212> I did not format it as ntfs-- I assume it came that way from the factory
[08:15] <venik212> no
[08:15] <coreymon77> venik212: do you also want to corrupt it and lose all data that is on the drive?
[08:15] <trakinas> although my mate's xp says his files wrote on ubuntu are corrupted, even though they arent
[08:15] <venik212> it is brand new-- just came out of the box
[08:15] <crowbar> venik212: Then the easiest way to get it working is to hook the drive up when windows is running and format the drive to be fat32
[08:16] <venik212> can't I do that from Linux?
[08:16] <NickPresta> I don't know how important my own experiences are but I've mounted my NTFS partition using NTGS-3G and I write to it almost daily. NTFS-3G. http://www.ntfs-3g.com/quality.html it seems stable enough to use on home use.
[08:16] <coreymon77> venik212: it you try to write to ntfs, you will most likely loose data
[08:16] <trakinas> venik212: yes you can.
[08:16] <venik212> how?
[08:16] <coreymon77> trakinas: its way too dangerous
[08:16] <trakinas> coreymon77: to format it fat32 on linux?
[08:16] <trakinas> seriously?
[08:16] <coreymon77> trakinas: no, to write to ntfs
[08:16] <NickPresta> coreymon77, do you have any evidence of how writing to NTFS will likely make you lose data?
[08:17] <BluesKaj> can someone post their /boot/grub/menu.lst in pastebin so i can compare one that works vs mine, which is broken ..reinstalling grub doesn't work
[08:17] <venik212> ok-- I'll reboot into XP and format it
[08:17] <Stratys> crowbar all i have is the 800/850/860
[08:17] <coreymon77> NickPresta: yes, the program sit eitself says that ist is unstable and unreliable
[08:17] <coreymon77> venik212: you can do it in linux
[08:17] <navets> trakinas
[08:17] <crowbar> Stratys: Are you looking at Stylus Color or Stylus photo?
[08:18] <trakinas> konversation crashed
[08:18] <llutz> BluesKaj: http://pbot.rmdir.de/61f11ed29bc371a4e76bb0b30f74ad67
[08:18] <BluesKaj> thx llutz , muchly
[08:18] <trakinas> i was telling him he can format it fat32 on linux. afaik
[08:18] <NickPresta> coreymon77, http://www.ntfs-3g.com/. It is _stable_. I use it daily with no data loss.
[08:18] <coreymon77> NickPresta: you are lucky, its not stable though
[08:19] <jhutchins_lt> FUD
[08:19] <Stratys> crowbar that was color...under photo i have 720/750/870
[08:19] <crowbar> coreymon77:  The driver is in STABLE status since February 2007, after twelve years of development. Please see our test methods and testimonials on the driver quality page.
[08:19] <NickPresta> coreymon77, The page itself, from the developers of NTFS-3G say that it is stable. What makes you sure that it isn't?
[08:19] <crowbar> crowbar: from the webpage :)
[08:19] <coreymon77> still
[08:19] <NickPresta> coreymon77, still what? It's stable. What evidence do you have that supports otherwise?
[08:20] <jhutchins_lt> Captive NTFS is also reliable.
[08:20] <coreymon77> trakinas: you want to help me out here
[08:20] <jhutchins_lt> You're still an idiot not to make a backup, but you're an idiot not to make a backup in the first place, even if you're not messing with Linux NTFS.
[08:21] <crowbar> Stratys: Can you check to see if you have the cupsys-driver-gutenprint package installed?
[08:21] <trakinas> coreymon77: where?
[08:21] <Stratys> crowbar please tell me how
[08:21] <coreymon77> jhutchins_lt: if you are formatting, of couse, but wirintg to a filesystem such as ext or fat32 is fine
[08:21] <jhutchins_lt> coreymon77: So is writing to NTFS.
[08:22] <crowbar> Stratys: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install cupsys-driver-gutenprint    if it installs a package try again with the add printer wizard.
[08:22] <jhutchins_lt> You need backups anyway, unless you don't care about the contents.
[08:22] <jhutchins_lt> My neighbor can attest to that fact, and he doesn't run Linux.
[08:22] <coreymon77> jhutchins_lt: what i did was cut off a 30 gig partition, formatted as fat32 and use it as a shared storage drive
[08:23] <coreymon77> anything i want to transfer from one os to the other, i put in there
[08:23] <Stratys> crowbar cupsys-driver-gutenprint is already the newest version
[08:23] <NickPresta> coreymon77, that's fine. IIIt is also okay to use NTFS as shared storage now that NTFS-3G is stable...
[08:23] <jhutchins_lt> What I've done for years is run NTFS drivers read/write in linux and never have a problem.
[08:23] <jhutchins_lt> When they started going on with all the FUD about them not being safe, I was still able to use captive NTFS under Knoppix.
[08:24] <trakinas> i dont know. i just heard bad and good things about writing on ntfs partitions
[08:24] <jhutchins_lt> THere was good reason for the FUD:  Nobody makes backups, even when someone says "THIS CAN DESTROY YOUR DATA", they just try it then complain.
[08:25] <trakinas> i prefer not taking the risk, eventhough i have backups...
[08:25] <crowbar> How can I check which package a file comes from?
[08:25] <trakinas> i dont do daily backups, though...
[08:25] <jhutchins_lt> The truth is, there are a very few special variants of NTFS where writing to them can destroy the file, and a very few where it can destroy the whole partition.
[08:25] <NickPresta> regarding ntfs-3g, you also have to remember that the version in the repos could be quite old compared to the latest stable version. I know that I was running an older version ntfs-3g and transfer speeds were astronomically high. I upgraded to the latest stable version and transfer speeds were down to a few seconds compared to a few minutes. Check which version you're running if you're having problems.
[08:25] <jhutchins_lt> The only way you can tell if you have one of those systems is to try writing to it.
[08:26] <jhutchins_lt> The newer drivers don't have that problem, nor does captive.
[08:27] <jhutchins_lt> There is no longer any reason to tell people that it's dangerous to write to NTFS - except that they should be making backups anyway.
[08:28] <NickPresta> The drivers since version 1.328 have no speed or high CPU usage problems. It's also stable.
[08:29] <crowbar> Stratys: Sorry that took so long.   try doing sudo apt-get install openprinting-ppds   and let me know if that installs anything
[08:35] <basti_> list
[08:35] <basti_> \list
[08:35] <trakinas> basti_:  /list
[08:36] <basti_> thanks!
[08:36] <trakinas> np
[08:37] <crowbar> basti_: If you're using Konversation you can hit F5 and it will bring up a nice channel list window
[08:37] <basti_> cool! thank you!
[08:37] <darksoul_> anyone here can help me about ATI configuration?
[08:38] <darksoul_> and pls do not tell me the !ati thing
[08:38] <darksoul_> i did all that
[08:38] <darksoul_> anyone?
[08:38] <darksoul_> pls?
[08:39] <trakinas> darksoul_: i cant.
[08:39] <darksoul_> zz
[08:40] <crowbar> darksoul_: If you describe your problem someone who has ATI experience will answer eventually.
[08:41] <darksoul_> i open ATI control center from the menu and i get : Driver does not provide the FireGL X11 extensions! Panel components will operate only partially
[08:42] <jthomas> does anyone have trouble with Kubuntu/HAL recognizing when an iPod (g5video) is plugged in?
[08:42] <NickPresta> darksoul_, did you run: `aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf`?
[08:44] <crowbar> darksoul_: Also, did you restart your xserver?  Either by rebooting the computer, using /etc/init.d/kdm restart or by hitting ctrl+alt+Backspace (after logging out of your kde session)
[08:44] <crowbar> You need to do that for changes, like the one NickPresta gave you, to take effect.
[08:44] <jthomas> darksoul_: you can also restart the Xserver from the login menu of KDE
[08:44] <crowbar> that too :)
[08:45] <jthomas> :)
[08:45] <darksoul_> when i use aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf i get
[08:45] <jthomas> does anyone run Kubuntu 7.04?  when i plug in my iPod for Amarok transfers, it isn't recognized after the first time.  I always have to reset it in iTunes on a Windows machine that I find.
[08:45] <darksoul_> Warning : Could not find configuration file
[08:46] <darksoul_> please copy configuration file template to /etx/X11
[08:46] <kim3984> when I sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop I get a list of a bunch of packages with unmet dependencies (ie: depends gnome-app-install but won't be installed) and then the line Broken packages.  any suggestions?
[08:46] <crowbar> kim3984: use aptitude instead of apt-get.
[08:46] <kim3984> mk
[08:46] <NickPresta> darksoul_, if you have already followed the instructions found in !ati, did you restart your X server after?
[08:47] <darksoul_> you mean /etc/init.d/kdm restart this?
[08:48] <NickPresta> lol. i guess he didn't before but just did now. >_>
[08:48] <crowbar> bet he was a bit surprised :)  wonder if he'll be angry when he gets back
[08:48] <crowbar> *if he gets back, hehe
[08:50] <coreymon77> ???
[08:50] <coreymon77> did i miss something?
[08:51] <crowbar> how'd everything work out there darksoul_?
[08:51] <kim3984> crowbar, thanks aptitude is going :)
[08:53] <crowbar> kim3984: aptitude is a little more robust when it comes to massive changes like that, it would seem.  also, since you used aptitude, if you want to remove xfce, just remove xubuntu-desktop and aptitude will automatically remove automatically installed packages you don't need anymore which is a big plus.
[08:54] <premier_> Hi, I'm transferring files to an external hard drive (ext3) and its too slow to be usable ... something is eating up all the cpu cycles, but its not on top
[08:54] <darksoul_> crowbar still the same kdm crashed i rebooted and still the same :S
[08:55] <crowbar> darksoul_: it was crashing before?   I thought it was working for you, but only a few menu options weren't being displayed?
[08:56] <darksoul_> crowbar when i use aticonfig --initial i get
[08:56] <darksoul_> Warning: Could not find configuration file
[08:56] <darksoul_> Please copy configuration file template to /etc/X11
[08:56] <Beardbar> hi guys, just installed kubuntu and its just wonderful. I got a small question, im configuring my video card on my laptop so I am editing xorg but I want to use something like notepad but cant find or remember the application name. Ive been using nano but its such a pain when making allot of edits.
[08:56] <Beardbar> any recommendations on what i should use
[08:56] <bonbonthejon> Beardbar: kate
[08:57] <bonbonthejon> Beardbar: make sure you make a back up
[08:57] <Stratys> crowbar didn't do n e thing
[08:57] <crowbar> darksoul_: you have to write aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf     You need the entire thing.
[08:58] <Stratys> crowbar openprinting-ppds is already the newest version.
[08:58] <crowbar> Stratys: sorry then.  I'm out of ideas.  That's the package that contains the 880 driver on my system.
[08:58] <darksoul_> crowbar i still get the same
[08:58] <Beardbar> bonbonthejon: excellent, thanks much found it in the menu as well.
[08:59] <bonbonthejon> Beardbar: make sure you do a "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak"
[08:59] <crowbar> darksoul_: lol forgot :)  you need to use sudo  bonbonthejon just reminded me.   sudo aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:00] <bonbonthejon> crowbar: ;)
[09:00] <darksoul_> crowbar yeah i know i use sudo but still the same
[09:00] <crowbar> darksoul_: Then i'm out of ideas.   Start a google hunt /=
[09:01] <crowbar> bonbonthejon: In my old age, my mind is starting to get rusty.  22 years old is starting to take it's toll :P
[09:01] <crowbar> its.. not it's.. see?  i'm senile.
[09:02] <darksoul_> ermm how do i open xorg.conf?
[09:03] <bonbonthejon> crowbar: you must be only a couple months older than me
[09:03] <lider_> tengo algunas pelis de dvd  y  no se quieren ver en gxine ni en caffeine  como hago para ver peliculas  con estos players
[09:03] <crowbar> darksoul_: sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you want to edit it.    leave off sudo if you just want to view it
[09:03] <bonbonthejon> !es | lider_
[09:03] <ubotu> lider_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:04] <lider_> gracia ubotu thanks
[09:04] <darksoul_> yeah i do that and it is blank ????????
[09:07] <bonbonthejon> darksoul_: if you browse to /etc/X11 in konqueror and double click on it, does it show anything
[09:08] <darksoul_> ermm there is not any file named xorg.conf
[09:08] <crowbar> darksoul_: well that might be your configuration problem right there.
[09:08] <darksoul_> only one named xorg.conf 0 original
[09:08] <michael__> !ubuntu
[09:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[09:08] <crowbar> darksoul_: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:09] <crowbar> and then run the ati command again
[09:10] <darksoul_> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:10] <darksoul_> Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.original-1
[09:10] <darksoul_> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[09:10] <darksoul_> this is what i get
[09:11] <crowbar> darksoul_: is your xorg.conf file empty again?
[09:12] <darksoul_> crowbar there is a file created named xorg.conf.original-1
[09:13] <crowbar> and you have no xorg.conf file anymore?
[09:14] <darksoul_> i got one named xorg.conf.original-0 and one named xorg.conf.original-1
[09:15] <trakinas> which kernel can I install to try and see if my device will work with ubuntu?
[09:15] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuh?
[09:15] <bonbonthejon> trakinas: what do you mean
[09:16] <darksoul_> dahhh i am probably gonna install kubuntu once AGAIN! arghh my nerves
[09:17] <crowbar> darksoul_: good luck.  sorry you couldn't get the help you needed.
[09:17] <darksoul_> its fine..
[09:17] <darksoul_> i just get mad once in a while cause i cannot get it done FFS :)
[09:18] <darksoul_> cya all in a bit :P
[09:19] <kim3984> after i install xubuntu-desktop, am I safe to remove ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop?
[09:19] <trakinas> bonbonthejon: i get i/o errors onn ubuntu, while it works great on gentoo
[09:20] <crowbar> kim3984: I wouldn't recommend it unless you need the space.   Also, most likely if you remove those two, it won't remove all their dependent packages.
[09:20] <bonbonthejon> trakinas: what device is it
[09:20] <kim3984> crowbar, what if I used aptitude?
[09:20] <trakinas> bonbonthejon: dvd. ide. pioneer 112-d
[09:20] <kim3984> I would remove them for space only
[09:21] <bonbonthejon> trakinas: sorry, I dont know
[09:21] <trakinas> =/
[09:21] <trakinas> im almost gaving up ubuntu because of this. i simple cant use my drive
[09:21] <Beardbar> hi, i just changed settings in my xorg.conf file, whats the best way to restart X?
[09:21] <kim3984> ctrl+alt+backspace I believe
[09:22] <crowbar> kim3984: Oh, it seems apt-get has a function autoremove that might do the trick for you  :)    if you used aptitude to install you can remove and that should clean most of the packages out.  otherwise apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop then run apt-get autoremove
[09:22] <Beardbar> kim3984: tried that, nothing happend
[09:23] <crowbar> Beardbar: You have to hit them at the same time.
[09:23] <kim3984> crowbar, awesome ty again :)
[09:23] <crowbar> np
[09:23] <Beardbar> crowbar: ll try again but i figured that and so thats what i tried
[09:23] <Beardbar> crowbar: yep nothing happened. there a command i can run like /etc/init.d/ yada yada or something?
[09:24] <crowbar> Beardbar: You can also log out and choose "Restart X" from the kdm menu on the login screen.  or in a terminal type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[09:24] <bonbonthejon> Beardbar: log out, then on kdm there is an option
[09:24] <trakinas>  /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[09:24] <Beardbar> crowbar: your a champion and others, thanks
[09:24] <kim3984> ^^
[09:29] <trakinas> how can I make ubuntu mount things on hda instead of sda?
[09:29] <crowbar> I'm pretty sure hda is lost and gone forever.
[09:30] <trakinas> crowbar: so, what should I do to ubuntu read my dvd device??
[09:30] <trakinas> gentoo reads any disk and it mounts on hda.. =P
[09:30] <crowbar> trakinas: I don't know :)   i just recall that ubuntu moved to /dev/sda instead of hda
[09:31] <trakinas> ah, i thought you were telling in a generic way.
[09:32] <llutz> hda, sda ... just names
[09:32] <crowbar> yeah, it shouldn't matter which it is named.  your dvd drive is probably /dev/hdc
[09:32] <trakinas> llutz: if it is just names, why my dvd drive cant work on ubuntu and work in gentoo?
[09:32] <crowbar> it can't read any discs at all?  or it can't play dvds?
[09:33] <trakinas> READ any disks
[09:33] <Shock> the progress bar in my boot splash only goes 1/3 and then boot drops in text mode...any idea why?
[09:33] <llutz> trakinas: that's definetly not because it's named sda not hda
[09:33] <trakinas> llutz: it could be scsi emulation... =P
[09:33] <bonbonthejon> Shock: hit alt-f1 and it should show what its doing
[09:34] <bonbonthejon> Shock: if you can get to a prompt, then X is probably messed up
[09:34] <Shock> bonbonthejon: no, no :) i mean that the nice bootsplash goes away and i see text output from the commands that are run as part of the boot process
[09:35] <Shock> bonbonthejon: X is comming up fine afterwards
[09:35] <Shock> bonbonthejon: it's nice_bootsplash -> ugly_text -> X
[09:35] <trakinas> 1st - it says i cant write on my own home folder.. oO
[09:36] <trakinas> 2nd - http://pastebin.ca/568774
[09:38] <hasan> hi guys
[09:38] <hasan> i ve got a question
[09:38] <trakinas> dont ask to ask
[09:38] <trakinas> ask
[09:38] <hasan> is there any software to organize folders
[09:39] <hasan> to be more precise to create a digital library and manage them
[09:39] <hasan> ive got lots of pdfs and chm files but having difficulty to organize them
[09:39] <trakinas> i think there's. but i cant remember its name
[09:39] <hasan> any practical solution
[09:40] <trakinas> look for ebook on kde-apps.org
[09:41] <hasan> nope
[09:41] <hasan> probably there is not
[09:42] <trakinas> anyone?
[09:42] <bonbonthejon> i remember reading something on kde-apps about a pdf library
[09:43] <trakinas> http://kde-apps.org/
[09:44] <hasan> i ve searched there without no result
[09:46] <trakinas> hasan: ok
[09:53] <hasan> another question
[09:53] <hasan> is there a reader for reading tarred and gzipped html files without opening them?
[09:54] <llutz> hasan: "mc" can browse them
[09:54] <hasan> is that midnight commander?
[09:54] <hasan> or something?
[09:54] <llutz>  midnight commander
[09:54] <BigToe7000> how do I move from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[09:55] <trakinas> hasan: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/BibShelf it is gtk based. dont know if you care
[09:55] <bonbonthejon> BigToe7000: install kubuntu-desktop
[09:55] <coreymon77> BigToe7000: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:55] <BigToe7000> thanks
[09:55] <hasan> bibshelf
[09:55] <hasan> ok
[09:55] <hasan> let me  see thx
[09:55] <trakinas> you are welcome
[09:56] <BigToe7000> coreymon77, does that install the splash screen (blue screen on startup)?
[09:56] <coreymon77> BigToe7000: if you choose kdm as the default display manager
[09:56] <BigToe7000> ok
[09:56] <coreymon77> BigToe7000: you will be able to choose during the installation
[09:56] <coreymon77> BigToe7000: when asked, choose kdm, not gdm
[09:56] <BigToe7000> ok
[09:57] <BigToe7000> thanks
[09:57] <BigToe7000> :D
[09:57] <bonbonthejon> BigToe7000: there is a splashscreen for grub, which might be what you mean
[09:57] <coreymon77> bonbonthejon: ??? my brug is jsut a black screen with text on it
[09:57] <coreymon77> grub*
[09:58] <llutz> coreymon77: that's more than enough :)
[09:58] <bonbonthejon> there are three things that it could be, the grub screen, the loading screen, and the kdm
[09:58] <ashassin> quit
[09:58] <bonbonthejon> ok :(
[10:02] <sercik> Hi mans! how are you?
[10:03] <sercik> what is this calm? noone write today?
[10:05] <premier_> I can't get the feisty liveCD to boot into X, something crashes... it gets to "* Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" and then stops dead... I can switch to a console, but I can do startx or kdm
[10:06] <sercik> Hi premier!
[10:06] <premier_> kdm does nothing, and startx gives a big error
[10:06] <premier_> sercik: hi
[10:06] <sercik> do you probably have a card that have some problems with ubuntu
[10:06] <sercik> you could try to use the alternate cd
[10:06] <premier_> ati radeon X1400 mobility
[10:06] <sercik> or start livecd in secure video mode
[10:06] <premier_> sercik: well, I want to do a few things first
[10:07] <premier_> sercik: I am in safe graphics mode
[10:07] <sercik> wow and X crashed in safe mode?
[10:07] <premier_> sercik: yeah
[10:07] <premier_> or rather, never started
[10:07] <sercik> bad thing bad thibg!!!
[10:07] <premier_> lol
[10:08] <sercik> i can'yt help you much! but you couls try to start X manually and see the errors
[10:08] <premier_> sercik: that what I did, can I retype some of the errors here?
[10:09] <sercik> i'm not very good in linux or in X but you can ask for help to someone gooder than me
[10:09] <sercik> better than me
[10:09] <sercik> try to paste i can see the same also if i probably can't help you
[10:11] <Markeda> Regarding printer installation, on linux-foundation.org's driver packages page, it states that "On Ubuntu or Debian unstable you do not need to do the following step." Is Kubuntu 7.04 included in that "ubuntu unstable" part?
[10:11] <hasan> another question
[10:11] <hasan> but this one is more important than the previous ones
[10:11] <hasan> how can i sync my mpx220 with kubuntu?
[10:12] <hasan> i couldnt do that with raki synce and kmobile tools
[10:12] <sercik> ubuntu or debian unstabled unstabled is referred only to debian
[10:12] <hasan> when i use lsusb command i can see my mobile phone connected via usb
[10:12] <Markeda> Ah. Thank you, Sercik.
[10:12] <hasan> but when i try to syn it with the aforementioned softs unfortunately no
[10:13] <sercik> one version of debian is tipically called unstable..
[10:13] <sercik> or sid
[10:13] <sercik> debain have three different versions
[10:14] <trakinas> hasan: check if it does have linux support.
[10:14] <hasan> how or where?
[10:15] <hasan> sorry but im a windows user that's why  i ask a lot
[10:15] <coreymon77> guys
[10:15] <hasan> recently migrated to kubuntu as its said so easy as win
[10:15] <coreymon77> is it possible to use a windoze screensaver in linux?
[10:16] <llutz> coreymon77: a. it's calles windows b. no
[10:16] <llutz> called
[10:17] <coreymon77> llutz: impossible?
[10:17] <llutz> coreymon77: afaik yes, and useless too :)
[10:20] <NickPresta> coreymon77, which Windows screensaver do you want?
[10:20] <coreymon77> NickPresta: its not a standard on
[10:20] <coreymon77> e
[10:20] <coreymon77> NickPresta: its not a windows screensaver per se
[10:21] <coreymon77> NickPresta: its just a screensaver that will only install on windows
[10:21] <NickPresta> coreymon77, what is unique about this screensaver? Describe it. Perhaps there is an alternative available.
[10:21] <coreymon77> NickPresta: do you knwo of the tv show firefly?
[10:21] <coreymon77> NickPresta: or the movie serenity?
[10:22] <NickPresta> coreymon77, I can't say I do, sorry.
[10:22] <premier_> sercik: I got some X errors... "XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 know processed) with 0 events remaining
[10:23] <coreymon77> NickPresta: well, its a screensaver from that
[10:23] <sercik> premier_ install gpm packages
[10:23] <sercik> sudo apt-get install gpm
[10:23] <premier_> and before that: "Fatal Serever error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting"
[10:23] <premier_> sercik: on a liveCD?
[10:23] <sercik> then do sudo /etc/init.d/gpm start
[10:23] <sercik> ah!
[10:23] <sercik> sorry
[10:23] <premier_> I mean I can
[10:23] <sercik> download alternate CD is the only solutions
[10:24] <sercik> you can't do change on live cd!
[10:24] <premier_> sercik: actually you can.  Ramdisk
[10:24] <sercik> then when you have installed the system 9'm sure that someone will help you
[10:24] <sercik> but is better that you install the system before
[10:25] <coreymon77> NickPresta: find me an alternate and ill use it, but i havent been able to find one
[10:25] <draik> I can't seem to get Kommander. 404
[10:25] <draik> Any ideas?
[10:27] <coreymon77> NickPresta: is it possible to somehow convert this screensaver into a linux one?
[10:27] <NickPresta> coreymon77, not that I know of. Try searching google.
[10:29] <draik> Is anyone here using kaffeine-mozilla and firefox?
[10:32] <NickPresta> draik, no. I've had much better luck with mozilla-mplayer.
[10:33] <draik> NickPresta: mozilla-mplayer won't play divX, but I do have that installed
[10:34] <draik> NickPresta: I installed kaffeine-mozilla so that I can play DivX on firefox. Now it doesn't say "missing plugin", but its just a grey/empty window that pops up
[10:35] <NickPresta> draik, could I have an example of this? Which website has this content?
[10:35] <hasan> yet another question
[10:35] <draik> Let me get you the direct link...
[10:35] <draik> NickPresta: http://tv-links.co.uk/show.do/1/25
[10:35] <draik> Click on Stage6 videos.
[10:35] <draik> If it doesn't say, it's DivX.
[10:35] <hasan> is there any ocr software for kubuntu as good as windows ocr softwares
[10:36] <llutz> hasan: no
[10:36] <jthomas> hasan there is a lot of *really* good ones avail for linux, but i haven't looked for any for kubuntu
[10:36] <llutz> jthomas: which one??
[10:36] <hasan> ok
[10:36] <hasan> for example
[10:37] <jthomas> list here http://www.linux-ocr.ekitap.gen.tr/
[10:37] <hasan> for linux
[10:37] <hasan> one or ones
[10:37] <hasan> nice  :)
[10:37] <llutz> jthomas: i know that list, but none of those apps is  "*really* good " imho
[10:37] <draik> NickPresta: Any luck playing any of the videos with Stage6?
[10:37] <hasan> at least in my own language
[10:37] <jthomas> and here is a good comparison of somehttp://groundstate.ca/ocr
[10:39] <jthomas> and google has released an open-source ocr that they got from (i think) ibm
[10:39] <root-cix> Hello!
[10:39] <jthomas> i think kooka scanning software for kde might have *some* ocr capabilities
[10:41] <jthomas> hello root-cix
[10:41] <eriefisher> for kooka -gocr-ocrad-kamos you have to select one
[10:53] <NickPresta> draik, are you still there?
[10:54] <draik> NickPresta: Sorry, someone was at the door
[10:55] <NickPresta> draik, that's okay. I have found several pages that share your problem (as well as mine) and the fix is to symbolically link /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in-dvx.xpt and /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in-dvx.so to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mplayerplug-in/+bug/112055
[10:56] <NickPresta> draik, however, this solution does not work for me. Which version of mozilla-mplayer do you have? (find out with `apt-cache policy mozilla-mplayer`)
[10:57] <draik> 1:3.40-0.1
[10:57] <premier_> I'm trying to copy folders from a my internal hard drive to my external hard drive, and konqueror is giving me all kinds of trouble about permissions, even in root
[10:57] <NickPresta> draik, Does that fix work? I'm using 3.31, for some strange reason.
[10:57] <draik> NickPresta: I will find out.
[10:58] <NickPresta> draik, if it does work, then we know that you need mozilla-mplayer > 3.31.
[10:58] <draik> NickPresta: I'm not using Feisty, I'm using Edgy
[10:59] <NickPresta> draik, oh. This should all still be relevant. I'm curious how you have mozilla-mplayer 3.40~. Do you have any special repos?
[11:00] <draik> NickPresta: I will paste my repos in a bit.
[11:00] <NickPresta> draik, okay, thanks.
[11:00] <draik> NickPresta: I'm going to try the instructions first and cross my fingers...
[11:01] <NickPresta> draik, good luck!
[11:02] <BluesKaj> hmm, not having much luck with these bootloader restore disks ...all they do is bring up an already broken menu that is still not working
[11:03] <BluesKaj> thanks to the synaptic update for breaking my grub menu without any warning
[11:03] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, were you the one who asked for a menu.lst entry earlier?
[11:04] <BluesKaj> yes NickPresta, but it doesn't help 'the error 15 file not found' , problem
[11:04] <BluesKaj> there don't seem to be any answers on the internet that apply to my setup
[11:05] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, where is your host system kernel in comparison to your boot partition? Are they on the same partition?
[11:06] <BluesKaj> NickPresta, yes they are supposed to be on hd0,1
[11:07] <BluesKaj> lemme check grub again
[11:08] <BluesKaj> find /boot/grub/stage1  (hd0,1)
[11:08] <draik> NickPresta: Ok, changes done.... Time to test it out.
[11:09] <shatteredskye> hey y'all
[11:09] <shatteredskye> << frustrated noob
[11:09] <coreymon77> okay, everyone
[11:09] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297261. Google also brings up tons of results if you put in that error line.
[11:09] <draik> NickPresta: Sweet glorious betsy! It works
[11:10] <NickPresta> draik, so it works with mozilla-mplayer 3.40?
[11:10] <shatteredskye> anyone know anything about tablet / passive stylus drivers?
[11:10] <draik> Seems that way.
[11:10] <coreymon77> is xscreensaver used as the screensaver program for kubuntu?
[11:10] <draik> I guess the ones that I have been trying before were possibly dead links.
[11:10] <draik> The window says done, loads nothing and sits there...
[11:10] <BluesKaj> NickPresta, i've been browsing google all day without any relevant results including google-linux
[11:10] <draik> I tried another one and it played beautifully.
[11:11] <shatteredskye> anyone out there successfully runny feisty with a tablet?
[11:11] <fdoving> coreymon77: yes.
[11:11] <shatteredskye> *running
[11:12] <draik> Is there another pastebin? Pastebin.CA is taking forever.
[11:12] <fdoving> draik: rafb.net/paste for example.
[11:12] <llutz> draik rafb.net
[11:12] <navets> how do i install a  game from a .zip file?
[11:13] <NickPresta> draik, as for your sources.list. It's okay. I found a repo for feisty. Thanks anyways
[11:13] <Daisuke_Ido> navets: my recommendation is to start by unzipping it.
[11:13] <draik> NickPresta: http://rafb.net/p/CzNmyL85.html
[11:14] <draik> NickPresta: Ok. Besides, I'm using Edgy
[11:14] <Daisuke_Ido> and reading the documentation is usually a helpful thing
[11:14] <shatteredskye> anyone have a second to help out with getting passive stylus tablet drivers working?
[11:14] <ubuntu> chris_
[11:14] <ubuntu> oops
[11:14] <navets> Daisuke_Ido unzipped but what file am i looking for to install it
[11:15] <llutz> navets: README, readme, install, important
[11:15] <llutz> navets: files with names like that :)
[11:15] <coreymon77> fdoving: is there a way to convert windows screensavers to linux ones?
[11:16] <fdoving> coreymon77: not that i'm aware of.
[11:16] <coreymon77> fdoving: okay
[11:16] <jthomas> coreymon77: what screensaver is that interesting?
[11:16] <coreymon77> jthomas: not standard
[11:19] <Daisuke_Ido> now that i have kaudiocreator and soundkonverter working the way i want, it's a pretty easy way to get my music collection digitized :D
[11:22] <corbax> ye yeh
[11:29] <ubuntu> -join
[11:35] <banksey> Hi all
[11:36] <banksey> I downloaded 3ddesktop, But anyone tell me how to set it up? Im knew to the Linux OS :( Any help would be much appriciated :)
[11:38] <ManiDhillon>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY animani!@
[11:38] <kenzo> hmmm
[11:39] <kenzo> @
[11:39] <nosrednaekim> banksey: doyou have an nvidia card or a ATI one?
[11:40] <jessie> hey guys.
[11:40] <kenzo> No Gays here
[11:41] <erichj> he should change his password, or i am going to ghost him for fun everytime he logs in
[11:41] <banksey> nosrednaekim:No, do I HAVE to have one?
[11:41] <rodrigo> het
[11:41] <rodrigo> hey
[11:42] <kenzo> hey "F"
[11:42] <rodrigo> does konqueror has a history menu?
[11:42] <kenzo> yes it does
[11:43] <rodrigo> kenzo: how does it works?
[11:43] <kenzo> i dont know
[11:43] <rodrigo> lol
[11:43] <rodrigo> ok...
[11:43] <kenzo> is it work ? i tout it unemployee
[11:43] <rodrigo> haha
[11:44] <erichj> ManiDhillon: don't forget to change your pass
[11:45] <kenzo> chgpwd 'apayaa'
[11:45] <kenzo> passwd 'apayaa'
[11:47] <Minataku> kenzo: You... uh... may want to pick a different password now
[11:48] <erichj> he didn't change his password
[11:48] <Rictoo> would a package compiled on a 64bit system work on a 32bit system?
[11:49] <erichj> is it compiled for a 64bit system?
[11:49] <erichj> or just on one
[11:49] <kenzo> why should I change pass?
[11:49] <fdoving> Rictoo: no.
[11:49] <Minataku> kenzo: Sorry, I thought you typed the command in here
[11:49] <Minataku> fdoving: Slow down
[11:49] <Minataku> erichj has a point
[11:49] <Minataku> It could be crosscompiled
[11:49] <Minataku> Or compiled for a 32bit userland
[11:50] <Minataku> A 64bit kernel, at least on SPARC64, can have a 32bit userland
[11:50] <Rictoo> what about an app compiled on a 32bit system used on a 64bit system?
[11:50] <fdoving> Rictoo: yes.
[11:50] <Minataku> Rictoo: Barring circumstances quoted
[11:50] <Minataku> 32->64 yes
[11:50] <Rictoo> ok
[11:50] <Minataku> 64->32 no
[11:50] <Rictoo> would it be faster for the 64bit system just to compile it there?
[11:51] <Minataku> Possibly
[11:51] <Minataku> But you have to compile it 32bit
[11:51] <ManiDhillon> how to change password?
[11:51] <fdoving> Rictoo: maybe slightly. not noticeable in my experience.
[11:51] <spencer> Hi, When a i move my mouse towards the border of the screen it is sticky, How do I turn that off
[11:51] <Minataku> ManiDhillon: passwd
[11:51] <ubuntu> ayuda
[11:51] <ubuntu> ayuda
[11:51] <fdoving> ManiDhillon: kmenu -> system settings -> about me -> change password.
[11:51] <Minataku> spencer: Get some window cleaner
[11:51] <Minataku> !es | ubuntu
[11:51] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:51] <ubuntu> ayuda perdi linux
[11:52] <Minataku> Of course, busting in there yelling that won't get you much there, either
[11:52] <erichj> fdoving: he means with nickserv so i will stop ghosting his nickname
[11:52] <kenzo> !nickserv
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickserv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <Minataku> /msg nickserv set password blah
[11:52] <fdoving> erichj: ah.
[11:53] <Minataku> Where blah is the password of your choice
[11:53] <erichj> hahaha
[11:53] <Minataku> erichj: You could quit being an ass, too
[11:53] <erichj> i could
[11:53] <Minataku> Actually, keep being one. I'll go get Freenode staff instead
[11:53] <Minataku> They'll stop you
[11:53] <ubuntu> help
[11:53] <ubuntu> help
[11:54] <kenzo_> wow . my webcam work here
[11:54] <Minataku> !es | ubuntu
[11:54] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:54] <Minataku> That's for you, you speak Spanish, go there
[11:54] <ubuntu> i lost my kubuntu reinstaling the windows
[11:54] <Minataku> It'll be easier to get help in your native language
[11:54] <ubuntu> help
[11:54] <ubuntu> help
[11:55] <Minataku> ubuntu: Keep it up and you won't get anything
[11:55] <erichj> stop being an ass
[11:55] <kenzo_> anybody know how to broadcast webcam in iIRC
[11:55] <Minataku> kenzo: IRC isn't like that
[11:55] <Minataku> Text only
[11:55] <ManiDhillon> erichj I got it babay!
[11:55] <erichj> woohoo
[11:55] <ubuntu> help plz
[11:56] <ubuntu> help plz
[11:56] <erichj> ManiDhillon: gotta watch those spaces, set your client up to autoidentify
[11:56] <Minataku> erichj: Abuse of network services, especially to harass another user is hardly acceptible
[11:56] <kenzo_> voice wrok here except the webcam function
[11:56] <marko_> !register
[11:56] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:56] <ubuntu> i lost my kubuntu reinstaling the windows
[11:56] <ubuntu> i lost my kubuntu reinstaling the windows
[11:56] <Minataku> ubuntu: Please. You came in here asking in Spanish for help.
[11:56] <Minataku> !grub
[11:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:56] <kenzo_> !register
[11:56] <erichj> Minataku: i wasn't harrassing him
[11:56] <Minataku> Either way, that answers your question
[11:57] <Minataku> erichj: You were ghosting him
[11:57] <erichj> Minataku: does he seem angry?
[11:57] <Minataku> That's harassment
[11:57] <Minataku> That doesn't matter
[11:57] <kenzo_> grub suck
[11:57] <kenzo_> grub in Mandriva much better
[11:57] <Minataku> It's the same GRUB
[11:57] <Alarm> hahaha
[11:57] <Alarm> grub in mandriva
[11:57] <erichj> Minataku: yes it does, you can't tell me i was harrassing him if he doesn't feel harrassed. you don't decide that for him.
[11:58] <Alarm> no its not , in mandrive it loads mandrive , its defenetely better ;)
[11:58] <Alarm> kenzo,  use lilo then
[11:58] <fdoving> erichj: it's not something you do to be nice to people anyway. let's just forget it and move on :)
[11:58] <Minataku> erichj: It's harassment by the definition of the term, and either way, whether it was consentual or not, it's still abuse of services
[11:59] <Minataku> It's like dialing 411 and belching at the operator
[11:59] <Minataku> Though my idea is more fun
[11:59] <kenzo_> 2007-06-16 04:57:51]  <Alarm> grub in mandriva<< why u laugh ? have u try spring Edition 2007?
[11:59] <Minataku> Bonus points if you rip one into the phone
[11:59] <Minataku> XD
[11:59] <Alarm> kenzo,  then u are on the wrong channel
[11:59] <Minataku> kenzo_: Mandriva is useless. I much prefer a distribution where I don't have to pay for help.
[12:00] <kenzo_> why u said im in the wrong channel
[12:00] <Alarm> cause u come here to complain about grub. although its the same loader in both distros
[12:00] <Minataku> If I wanted to pay for Linux help I'd buy a copy of Red Hat
[12:00] <ubuntu> thanks, i'll restart and back
[12:00] <Alarm> if you think on mandrive its better, then use madnriva
[12:00] <Minataku> ubuntu: np
[12:01] <Alarm> red hat rules. i used it till version 7.2 which was still free...
[12:01] <Minataku> Speaking of GRUB, there's Legacy GRUB and GRUB2... and I can't figure out which is which
[12:01] <Minataku> lol
[12:01] <Minataku> Can't say I've tried very hard, though
[12:01] <kenzo_> i didnt said mandriva better as a whole system , i just said  Grub in mandriva much better
[12:01] <Minataku> kenzo_: But it's the same GRUB
[12:02] <kenzo_> im on kubuntu Feisty now
[12:02] <Minataku> It all comes from one source
[12:02] <Minataku> GNU
[12:02] <Alarm> kenzo,  it is the same grub
[12:02] <ManiDhillon> Minataku How do i set up Konversation to auto identify me?
[12:03] <kenzo_> i know . i just said , graphical grub is much better than text
[12:03] <Minataku> ManiDhillon: Sorry, I don't use Konversation, so I don't know.
[12:03] <Alarm> kenzo,  u can make it graphical also on kubuntu
[12:03] <Minataku> Why bother?
[12:03] <Minataku> You use GRUB for all of 5 seconds
[12:04] <Minataku> I can't even remember what GRUB looks like on my system, I haven't seen it in... uh...
[12:04] <Minataku>  18:03:26 up 96 days, 13:29,  6 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[12:04] <Minataku> That many days
 kenzo,  u can make it graphical also on kubuntu> gimme some link to that
[12:05] <Minataku> !GRUB
[12:05] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:05] <Minataku> That second link should have it
[12:05] <Minataku> I think it's just a picture you toss in /boot/grub or summat
[12:05] <kenzo_> hmm
[12:05] <Minataku> I used to have one until it broke
[12:05] <Minataku> Leaving GRUB invisible
[12:06] <Minataku> It still worked just fine... minus the whole being able to see it part
[12:06] <kenzo_> im on dual boot here , so I still need grub boot menu
[12:06] <Minataku> kenzo_: Adding the picture won't MAKE it invisible
[12:06] <Minataku> I just had some kind of error
[12:07] <kenzo_> i think kubuntu faster than ubuntu
[12:07] <Alarm> kenzo_,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#head-616e8477b76f70cdd317812fef0ac88b248e25b4
[12:08] <kenzo_> ok 'll check it
[12:08] <darkrift> lost grub after installing windows? Solution: Dont install windows!
[12:09] <Daisuke_Ido> while i agree with that in principle, that's not an option for everyone
[12:09] <darkrift> i know
[12:09] <rodrigo> guys does any one of you know how to see the history (the webpages i had browsed in konqueror?
[12:09] <kenzo_> i use windows piration here
[12:09] <darkrift> i have a dual bootg with vista myself
[12:09] <Alarm> rodrigo,  ctrl+h maybe ?
[12:09] <kenzo_> vista suck
[12:09] <darkrift> but only cause there are 3 things i need in windows still
[12:10] <darkrift> printer, ocr and adobe ebook support
[12:10] <dom> rodrigo, it's in the navigation panel
[12:10] <darkrift> cant get printer working in kubuntu
[12:10] <darkrift> drivers came in an rpm and i couldnt install it
[12:10] <kenzo_> scanner is still big issue in linux , my canoscan not work well in linux
[12:10] <dom> F9 to show it, the clock icon shows it
[12:10] <hasan> and also webcams too
[12:10] <hasan> webcam support sux
[12:11] <darkrift> by ocr i mean converting .bmp's to text, not scanning
[12:11] <darksoul_> when is says make sure fglrx is not disabled and gives me this command kdesu kate /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[12:11] <hasan> i cant use my mobile phone too
 drivers came in an rpm and i couldnt install it < convert to deb using alien
[12:11] <Alarm> kenzo_,  then blame canon for not creating drivers
[12:11] <darksoul_> i get DISABLED_MODULES="ath_hal fc fglrx ltm nv"
[12:11] <rodrigo> LET ME SEE
[12:11] <rodrigo> let me see dom
[12:11] <darkrift> aptgetting alien now
[12:11] <ManiDhillon> I need to setup my IRC client to auto identify me! How to do this?
[12:11] <darksoul_> is there anything i should remove?
[12:12] <rodrigo> dom: in wich menu?
 kenzo_,  then blame canon for not creating drivers << I did already but Canon Tecnicians reply me with "Blame It on the Rain, Blame it on the star ,, uuuhh yeaahh"
[12:12] <darksoul_> ATI drivers help here
[12:12] <Minataku> NO
[12:12] <Minataku> DANGER
[12:13] <Minataku> MIXING PACKAGES FROM DIFFERENT DISTRIBUTIONS IS HIGHLY DISCOURAGED
[12:13] <crimsun> aww
[12:13] <crimsun> but it's shiny
[12:13] <rodrigo> dom: in wich menu?
[12:13] <Minataku> It is a BAD IDEA
[12:13] <dom> rodrigo, F9 or under "view" -> "navigation panel"
[12:13] <darkrift> ?
[12:13] <Minataku> Someone needs to make a bot trigger for that
[12:13] <darkrift> even just drivers for a printer?
[12:13] <dom> rodrigo, quit repeating your question, please.
[12:14] <Minataku> darkrift: Does it have any dependencies at all?
[12:14] <darkrift> no idea
[12:14] <Minataku> If it does, then yes
[12:14] <rodrigo> dom: sorry
[12:14] <darksoul_> need some explanation on ATI sector pls
[12:14] <darkrift> wouldnt install