[12:15] Schitso: You can apply, yes. [12:15] Schitso: For now, you can give me the bug number, then I can set it to wishlist. === lfittl [n=lfittl@cl-185.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/120284 [12:15] Launchpad bug 120284 in rhythmbox "video podcasts show as failed downloads" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [12:17] Schitso: Done. [12:17] Thanks [12:17] Schitso: Thank *you*. [12:17] Should I set it to "confirmed", then? [12:18] If you've verified that it's not bogus, I'd say yes. [12:19] ls [12:19] s/ls// [12:19] Alright. [12:20] ScottK-laptop: Thanks for all your help. You made it to top three on my "People, I should buy beer" list. === lionel [n=lionel@ip-211.net-81-220-127.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shawarma hugs ScottK-laptop [12:20] Great. You're welcome. Thanks for contributing. [12:21] shawarma: Say thanks to the people that stuck me in an all day boring meeting and gave me internet access. [12:21] ScottK-laptop: It really must have been *very* boring. [12:22] Yeah and my blood pressure does better when I don't pay attention to some of this stuff. === Subhuman [n=jack@host86-144-223-188.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] ScottK-laptop: Well, I'm glad I could be of service distracting you all day. :) === jussi01 [n=jussi@cust0920.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:33] I've made a premature upload to revu, can I zap it? [12:33] just upload a new one once this one gets accepted === leonel [n=leonel@189.155.108.78] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:34] Okay, I just want the reviewer to look at the latest upload [12:34] right, they always should anyway [12:34] great, thx [12:38] quick question [12:39] state "D" is in-kernel non-interruptable something right === bluefoxicy can't kill -9 this process >:| Is going to file a bug in something and is starting to think he may be filing it in apport [12:39] which is not running [12:42] bluefoxicy: Dunno, but where in MD are you? I live in MD too. [12:42] FINALLY [12:42] it just stopped being in D and died === torkel [i=torkel@ip64.degernas.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:42] after like 5 minutes [12:42] scottK: White marsh area [12:43] bluefoxicy: I live in Ellicott CIty [12:43] scottK: Been there. [12:44] I missed my turn for college and had to go down to the next exit [12:44] Heh. Which college? === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === concept10 [n=concept1@ppp-70-250-190-244.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard [n=giskard@62-101-126-218.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando_ [n=fernando@189.0.236.137] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stratus [n=stratus@86.157.4.170] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:59] I need help making a patch for a bug. [12:59] It's just a small change in the debian/install file [12:59] OK [01:00] So, how exactly would I go about it? [01:00] Schitso: What bug? [01:00] Should I change the diff.gz file that comes with the package? [01:00] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/timemachine/+bug/120475 [01:00] Launchpad bug 120475 in timemachine ".desktop file wrong srouce" [Undecided,In progress] === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK-laptop looks [01:01] Schitso: apt-get source the package and work from that. [01:02] I did already, and I made the change, but how should I post it? [01:02] Schitso: Make your change, document it in debian/changelog (dch -i is your friend). [01:02] Then make a new source package (debuild -S -uc) [01:03] Then debdiff the old and new packages, attach the debdiff to the bug and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsrs to the bug. [01:05] Bug#120475: timemachine: .desktop wrong file srouce [01:05] * timemachine.desktop installed into /usr/share/app-installer/desktop [01:05] instead of /usr/share/gnome/apps/Multimedia/ [01:05] Good bye all. Boring meeting is ending. [01:06] Is that the correct way to document the change? [01:06] Ah, ok. [01:06] Night ScottK-laptop [01:06] Bye. [01:06] No. Sorry I've got to run. Someone else can tell you... === ScottK-laptop [n=kitterma@166.129.148.49] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] [01:06] Blast.... [01:06] Someone? [01:06] Anyone? [01:07] Good night MOTUland! [01:07] Not knowing what to do sucks. === luisbg [n=d33p@179.144.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:23] yea I have the same problem lololo it really does suck === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host44-131-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === radhios [n=radhios@200-122-45-5.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:28] how should I do it if I want that when the package I'm building makes a backup of a file before installing itself? === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === owh [n=onno@59.154.24.148] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] I'm trying to fix a bug in gphpedit. I think that the problem is that a parameter being passed is defined as a gint, but expected to be a glong. There are over 300 parameters to check. I'm using dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b to build the package. How do I get the compiler to tell me of these mismatches? [01:38] 2> error.log [01:40] Amaranth: That gave me a little output, but nothing at all to do with type errors at all. [01:41] Any flags I need to set somewhere? [01:45] I've just tried with the -W flag, but that didn't produce any more output. === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-219-120.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:05] can someone remind me of how to find out the package you need if your missing a certain file? (SDL.h) [02:07] jussi01: apt-file search ? [02:07] StevenK: thanks :D === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-8318edc922f62d79] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] have a question about patching a package (noob here in terms of packaging) - I've done... [02:14] apt-get source rhythmbox [02:14] cd rhythmbox-0.10.0 [02:14] # patched my installation and ran dch -i [02:14] debuild -S [02:14] cd .. [02:14] I know have the files in the directory, but am not sure how to repackage them so I can install and then test that my patch worked? [02:15] mthaddon: The way I just did that was: "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b" === somerville32 [n=cody-som@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] you can also use pbuilder for a clean room environment [02:15] mthaddon: you might want to look into using pbuilder [02:15] owh: do I need to specify the dsc file, as there are two there (the original one) [02:16] mthaddon: Dunno, I'm just playing locally. [02:16] AndyP: I have a pbuilder set up for dapper and would like to build this for feisty - I guess I could reconfigure that... === owh resolves to look at pbuilder in a spare moment. [02:17] mthaddon: yeah you need to specify the dsc... [02:17] mthaddon: it's possible to set up more than one pbuilder for different releases etc, but you can also just tweak your /etc/pbuilderrc to look at a different release if you only want to build for one [02:18] AndyP: might have to look into that... [02:18] jussi01: thx [02:18] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto [02:20] could someone tell me what im missing? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25636/ [02:21] jussi01: looks like you need to build depend on libsdl1.2-dev [02:22] AndyP: thanks [02:23] if you need to find out those kinds of things, "apt-file search" or packages.ubuntu.com are good places to search === hollero [n=chatzill@189.140.242.201] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:25] is there any particular reason why there's a package for Eclipse but none for NetBeans? [02:26] AndyP: apt-file serch didnt reveal anything.. wht did you search on? [02:26] hollero: netbeans is in multiverse, i believe [02:26] jussi01: i searched for SDL.h [02:27] jussi01: if you've only just installed apt-file you'll need to run sudo apt-file update to build the db [02:28] AndyP: hehe, thats the problem then :D [02:28] wondered why it didnt work [02:28] :) [02:30] AndyP: can you do a quick search on SDL_image.h for me? my internet is really sslow, and its taking ages... [02:31] now i got it... is there any reason why it is multiverse and not universe (i thought it was completely opensource)... and why is it only in synaptic and not in add/remove? [02:32] jussi01: libsdl-image1.2-dev [02:32] hollero: no idea, sorry [02:32] AndyP: thanks very much [02:34] maybe it's just a matter of creating a metafile for add/remove (i'm not an expert on this, no idea really) with a description and so on that it can be used in the easy add/remove [02:34] ? === apacheLAGger [n=me@N921P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] question : when I get the sources from a debian unstable deb and I want to patch it to work with ubuntu dpatch-edit-patch works the same or there's something that has to be done ? [02:36] no I haven't done any merge [02:36] just testing if that deb works in ubuntu [02:37] leonel: i'm not sure i understand your question [02:38] leonel, does a test build work in a gutsy pbuilder/sbuild? [02:38] (or have you tried)? [02:38] superm1: no I haven't I just downloaded dpkg-source and dpkg-buildpackage [02:39] leonel, the first thing i would do is try it in a pbuilder/sbuild env. if things work, you're done and just need to request a sync [02:39] AndyP: Ubuntu works with debian/patches and I didn't see any in debian's psycopg2 [02:39] if not, then you can create patches using dpatch-edit-patch [02:39] superm1: ok thanks [02:39] I'll try === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] The more I learn from this things the more I want to keep working on this things .. I mean motu things [02:42] :) === Baby [n=miry@pdpc/supporter/silver/kavi/baby] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Simon80 [n=Simon80@CPE00e098558963-CM000a7363ecf6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Baby [n=miry@pdpc/supporter/silver/kavi/baby] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] superm1: Builded fine with pbuilder === jekil [n=alessand@host185-20-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@cust0920.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === balarka [n=balarka@adsl-75-22-18-195.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:11] shawarma: Linda 0.3.25 has been uploaded to Debian. The Debian import freeze hasn't hit yet, so hopefully she'll get pulled across automagically. [03:17] crimsun: when you get the chance, I have upgraded to Gutsy and my sound is severly broken...go through some steps so I can create a bug report accordingly for you [03:18] nixternal: how broken? === jussio1 [n=jussi@cust0920.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] well, broken tot he point where my speakers are blaring, unless I turn PCM all the way down [03:18] volume control doesn't work at all, only pcm [03:18] fun [03:19] there was a new alsa-utils that I saw, at least [03:19] I usually sit in the back of class and listen to LUGRadio, so after I upgraded here in class I decided to listen to the latest, and boom, Jono loud as hell laughing filled the class [03:20] lol [03:20] at least he wasn't cussing yet [03:20] hehe [03:20] haha! [03:21] now the teacher definitely knows I am not paying attention during class === owh [n=onno@59.154.24.148] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussio1 smacks alsa ... where is crimsun! [03:23] jussio1: he is hiding, he knows it is broken ;p === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] hehe [03:23] glad I didn't click on some pr0n or something, now that would have been really embarassing [03:23] im trying to figure out this, its probably not alsa's fault htough... [03:24] huh? you upgraded your system while in class? [03:24] yup [03:24] dude, this is ASP.NET class, I could care less about it [03:25] easy A [03:25] you must be really bored [03:25] even if its an MS thing class I wouldn't miss the chance to learn something [03:25] ASP.NET == drag and dropping, not much to learn really, everything tells you what to do [03:25] hehe [03:26] its still learning for me [03:26] every now and then we get into some c# [03:26] so if you know java and c++, then c# makes sense, or is supposed to make sense [03:27] wow powerset released a screenshot and it has a porn category [03:27] heh [03:31] go spurs === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-ed8a30f8d0973df6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tmr0 [n=tmr0@71-208-49-26.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Califalcon [n=supper12@107.116.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:02] is it right to have a pbuilder-gutsy inside a gutsy debootstrap running in feisty ? === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp62-118.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:07] can someone point me to a good tutorial to get vnc working? === Pumpernickel [n=pumperni@CPE0016b6c9fba4-CM0012c9a9a6dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === radhios [n=radhios@200-122-45-5.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:34] lionel: I'd say so. I used to use dchroot with chroots, which had pbuilder set up in them. === EliasAmaral [n=dark@unaffiliated/EliasAmaral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@43-45-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena_ [n=caravena@246-162-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:42] TheMuso: ok [04:50] leonel, yes that should be fine [04:51] you just need to file a sync request bug now [04:51] indicate that it built fine in your pbuilder [04:51] and then subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors [04:57] superm1: if the package is in MoM or DaD ?? [04:58] regardless [04:58] leonel, the entire sync process is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess [04:58] so there's no need to merge ? [04:59] http://merges.ubuntu.com/p/psycopg2/REPORT [05:00] oh I thought you had mentioned this was was a new package [05:00] coming from debian [05:00] as in not in ubuntu. [05:00] what is the content of our changes? [05:00] from debian === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] superm1: I don't know but let me read that link you send or is there for merge request ? === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tmr0 [n=cbladow@71-208-49-26.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jmg [n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] leonel, well you can generate a debdiff between our package and debian's [05:03] and see if the changes we do are necessary [05:03] if it looks like they are, then you need to go through a merge === Fujitsu [n=william@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lengau [n=lengau@c-76-22-213-228.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:03] if they can be dropped, you can file the sync request [05:04] superm1: great let me do that tomorrow since I got to go now and read that link you send ( I'm learnng here ) ... [05:04] superm1: thank you [05:04] np leonel :) [05:04] leonel, there is lots of very valuable information on all the procedures at those wiki pages === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:05] superm1: I'll take a look thanks === AndyP finally makes friends with quilt === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-219-120.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === porthose [n=chatzill@72.24.69.50] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:12] superm1: found this :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Merging [05:12] superm1: I'll read and read and read then do a merge or sync [05:12] sounds good leonel [05:12] now got to go ! [05:13] thank you === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-105-6.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp91-76-74-176.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tmr0 [n=tmr0@71-208-49-26.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === man-di_ [n=mkoch@dyndsl-080-228-192-133.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:48] good day MOTUs === zakame takes a look at wulfare [05:53] make that wulfware === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp91-76-74-176.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === javier_galicia [n=Javier@189.130.231.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gouki_ [n=gouki@ubuntu/member/gouki] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp62-118.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:42] xmms2 FTBFS on amd64 known upstream: http://bugs.xmms2.xmms.se/view.php?id=1607 === Admiral_Chicago [n=FreddyM@adsl-68-255-110-41.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:44] perhaps disabling build of xmms2-plugin-sid would work atm? === sevda [n=sevda199@pop-catel-2-47.azeronline.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:47] sevda1990_2007@yahoo.com === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44269.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sevda [n=sevda199@pop-catel-2-47.azeronline.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Califalcon [n=supper12@107.116.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ed1t [n=edited@unaffiliated/ed1t] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:51] anybody know on status of new scala's .deb? [06:53] ed1t: scalas dev? [06:53] deb? [06:54] yes scala2.5.1 released....ubuntu's repository has the old version 2.3 [06:55] 2.5.0 sources are in universe, but failed to build [06:56] is it easy to like create your own .deb ? [06:56] "GC Warning: Out of Memory! Returning NIL! [06:56] java.lang.OutOfMemoryError [06:56] <>" [06:56] comforting [06:56] hmmm [06:56] Oh, *twitch* [06:56] StevenK awakens [06:57] I've been awake for hours, so shush [06:57] but you leapt for joy at the mention of java [06:57] it shouldn't be too hard to update scala to 2.5.1, but it entirely depends on the package [07:01] And if it requires more than 1Gb of RAM to build. [07:01] which one? === DreamThief [n=mathias@unaffiliated/dreamthief] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:12] A co-worker mentions that ant has it's own limits, much like PHP. [07:13] but php should be used for everything! [07:13] Oh geez. [07:13] ANT_OPTS=-Xmx512M ant -f debian/simpbuild.xml dist [07:13] why don't we use php-gtk more? [07:13] Evidently, 512M isn't enough anymore. [07:15] But according to the co-worker, ant tries to do everything directly in memory. === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame looks at iolanguage === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:32] hi all [07:34] harro [07:34] :) [07:34] heya Hobbsee and lifeless! === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:35] hey there everybody [07:35] yo cbx33 [07:35] howz it all going [07:37] hey [07:37] a === zakame takes a look at spring [07:37] heya Hobbsee [07:37] guys got a bit of a MOTU question [07:37] hehe [07:38] so...I have a piece of software, which has several "plugins" [07:38] which pull in/require many python modules [07:38] so I don't want to package it all up together === bonii [n=bonii@unaffiliated/bonii] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:38] as it'll then require lots of deps [07:39] that the person will probably never ever use. Is it acceptable to split it into seperate binary packages for the plugins? [07:39] sure [07:39] see opensync for instance :) [07:39] if so, I currently use a makefile to do the python stuff [07:39] how best I do this [07:40] maybe a link to the package would help? [07:40] if someone has a few minutes to look at if with me [07:40] well [07:40] your software build, and your packaging should be separate [07:40] yes [07:40] because people may want to package it for RH etc. [07:40] sure [07:40] so just have your package rules create the separate binary packages. [07:41] that's the plan [07:41] www.progbox.co.uk/vcsfrenzy === crevette [n=crevette@man06-2-88-167-44-76.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:42] https://code.launchpad.net/~petesavage/vcs-frenzy/trunk [07:42] the browse code here should have it too [07:43] at the moment [07:43] http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~petesavage/vcs-frenzy/trunk/annotate/petesavage%40ubuntu.com-20070601205206-xckyam97r3q4wedk?file_id=makefile-20070510150748-m3hnibdgz7gz3czl-1 [07:43] my makefile installs all plugins together [07:45] how best to go about splitting this? [07:51] nixternal: what does "severely broken" mean? === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:52] crimsun: means he's describing his experience of vista. [07:56] ... vista isn't that bad. mine only went nuclear due to my attempting to get mdns on it. [07:58] lol [08:02] heheh [08:02] so any ideas on my packging problem? === \sh_away is now known as \sh === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] <\sh> crimsun, do you have any clue about asoundconf-gtk, especially where the orig source code can be found? === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:06] hey jsgotangco [08:06] hi cbx33 [08:07] hi \sh welcome back :) === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp62-118.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-219-120.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp62-118.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:09] \sh: I thought it was in Ubuntu Studio's bzr repo [08:09] \sh: don't have the url handy, but apt-get source has it [08:10] \sh: it's deprecated anyhow; see LP/asoundconf-ui === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:12] <\sh> crimsun, yeah found your project...but no bzr uploads ,-) === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp62-118.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:13] <\sh> crimsun, oh ... sorry...wrong there is something ,-) [08:13] hmm? there are two commits to trunk. Granted it's very, very prelim, but if you pyuic -o displayqt.py displayqt.ui, you'll see the mockup [08:14] <\sh> crimsun, let me give it a shot and provide some code to it ,-) [08:16] crimsun: only PCM controls the volume for me [08:16] <\sh> crimsun, do you want to reuse the code from pitti (asoundconf) ? [08:16] \sh: yes, it will Depends: alsa-utils [08:16] my volume up/down keys works great by turning master volume up and down, however it really doesn't turn the volume up or down [08:17] and I will say, the Gutsy kernel has made my audio even louder now [08:17] <\sh> crimsun, anything against pushing this as well to opensuse or any other distro not having this fine util? [08:17] having Jono laughing in the middle of class isn't all that great :) [08:18] \sh: none at all, though they probably don't have asoundconf. Be aware that the version of asoundconf is very tightly dependent on the alsa-lib version due to the parameters culled from $prefix/share/alsa/alsa.conf [08:18] <\sh> crimsun, yepp....I wanted to port asoundconf to opensuse...(just testing this bitch of distro) === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:19] it would be useful for me to draw up that spec RSN [08:19] nixternal: ok, so what's severely broken about it? [08:20] well, not being able to control my volume automatically makes it severly broken in my eyes..where volume doesn't do anything...having to manually control pcm [08:20] nixternal: keep in mind that we're not tracking alsa-kernel hg tip, since 2.6.22 has yet to release so that I can begin the pull. [08:21] err, we apparently have very different versions of "extremely broken" [08:21] roger that...just wanted to talk it over with you and see how to proceed..I can live with the manual tweaking [08:21] extremely broken for me is "inaudible regardless of quirk" or "locks up machine" [08:21] well when jono is laughing at 100db in the middle of class, that is severly broken ;p [08:22] ok, then please provide me with some useful debugging info. [08:22] that is what I wanted to talk about...you know all of the funky commands to debug audio [08:22] http://trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh [08:22] download it, execute it, tell me the url. [08:24] http://pastebin.ca/567967 [08:24] brb [08:30] it's not clear whether you're saying that 'Master' does nothing at all or that 'PCM' overrides 'Master' [08:30] Master does nothing at all [08:30] the volume slider goes up and down, but the volume doesn't change [08:31] and this is a dist-upgrade? [08:31] yes [08:31] the state names changed [08:31] nuke your /var/lib/alsa/asound.state, unload ^snd, reload snd-hda-intel [08:32] oh, and if you were using any options snd-hda-intel line in /etc/modprobe.d/*, get rid of it [08:32] mute doesn't work either [08:32] one step at a time [08:34] how do I unload & reload? [08:34] modprobe? [08:34] modprobe -r .... ; modprobe ... [08:35] thought so [08:35] there is a ton of snd, just the intel for the unload I take it? [08:37] modprobe -r $(lsmod|awk '/^snd/ {print $1}') [08:38] Might need to pipe the awk into tac [08:39] <\sh> crimsun, you should use kdes i18n method and then gettext [08:39] FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use. [08:40] \sh: sure, go ahead, although I'd rather keep it Qt [08:40] StevenK: And you've included the patch in 0.3.25? ( [08:40] s/(// [08:40] shawarma: No, because I'd already fixed it. [08:40] StevenK: Ah, ok. Great. [08:41] nixternal: close any program accessing it. [08:41] fuser, lsof, whatever. [08:41] (and if you're using pulseaudio, you'll need to prepend sudo due to the recent sysctl.conf change) [08:42] /dev/dsp* /dev/mixer* /dev/audio* /dev/snd/* [08:42] being the files you want to check [08:44] OK, done [08:45] amarok was the bugger [08:46] now, presuming the symptom is reproducible with amixer directly, I'll need your codec dumps [08:46] i.e., don't use your mmkeys; use `alsamixer -c0` directly [08:47] alsamixer isn't working it either [08:48] meaning Master does nothing? [08:48] nope [08:48] ok, then you need 4 sets of pastebins. [08:48] set 1 is the initial state [08:49] set 2 is the state after you've increased PCM but left Master alone === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-25-149.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:49] set 3 is the state after you've done set 2 and increased Master [08:51] set 4 is the state after you've done sets 2 and 3 and decreased Master [08:51] I only need /proc/asound/card0/codec* contents [08:51] please file a bug against linux-source-2.6.22, assign it to the ubuntu-audio LP team, include you first pastebin URL, then attach separately each of the four codec dumps [08:51] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25659/ [08:51] ahh, roger [08:51] there is only 1 codec dump [08:51] codec#0 [08:52] each mixer element change corresponds to a nid change reflected in the codec [08:52] that's why you will have 4 codec dumps [08:53] gotcha [08:54] crimsun: bug 119266 - does this have anything to do with me? [08:54] Launchpad bug 119266 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Intel HDA Sound device doesn't work in gutsy" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119266 === RainCT [n=RainCT@62.87.107.163] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:55] no, you two have utterly different codecs. [08:56] he has a sigmatel, you have a conexant. === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-037.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:01] alrighty, bug filed with all 4 dumps [09:01] thank you sir [09:03] thank -you- [09:07] no, thank you! === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C1A48C.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nuu [n=nuu@85-18-14-28.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-85-27-113-187.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F7084A.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:36] good morning === Tonio_ [n=tonio@81.185.113.139] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-211-46.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === deep [n=deep@c-9f2a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bonii [n=bonii@210.211.148.11] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === deep [n=deep@c-9f2a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aplg [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gpocentek [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@88.195.85.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@127.160.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === munckfish [n=munckfis@217.150.115.62] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stratus [i=stratus@conference/debconf/x-d341b5942c33e13e] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem_ [n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-19-74.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@115.Red-88-27-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:03] good morning all [12:04] Morning :) [12:04] Hi AndyP === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp62-118.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Baby [i=miry@pdpc/supporter/silver/kavi/baby] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:30:216:36ff:fe17:3cef] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stratus [i=stratus@conference/debconf/x-b26c8f4a647c80c9] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:19] hi AndyP [12:21] hi lionel, thanks for the paintlib sync ack [12:21] no pb :) === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jekil [n=alessand@host185-20-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@87.217.160.127] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] any motu with a little time for this? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5532 [12:45] infinito: a small one: In debian/control, change 'More information' with 'Homepage', indented by 2 spaces, instead of one. [12:46] pochu: ok === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host44-131-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stijn_pol [n=stijn@d54C18E1E.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@127.160.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chribac [n=chatzill@p57A8156D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@127.160.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] === AndyP finishes cleaning up the MOTU/FAQ wiki page a bit === infinito [n=infinito@127.160.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tobiasschulz [n=tobias@AC9E1D9D.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stijn_pol [n=stijn@d54C18E1E.access.telenet.be] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === stratus [i=stratus@conference/debconf/x-b542f6f67b4ebc21] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bueroman [n=setanta@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu === EtienneG [n=etienne@ubuntu/member/EtienneG] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamesramblewood [n=dan@p54A6DC4C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamesramblewood [n=dan@p54A6DC4C.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === tuxmaniac [n=tuxmania@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === etank [n=etank@ubuntu/member/etank] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] hmm, question about existence : how it's choose to put stuff in depends *or* in recommends in ubuntu-desktop ? [02:08] because I can see that their is not logical answer :o [02:08] s/not/no/ === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@211.Red-88-11-174.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xxxxx1 [n=will@44125.static.fln.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] morrrning people [02:14] :) === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:18] anyone is bored? come on! give this a little review!! http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5542 [02:18] :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher_ [n=xopher@cs181218079.pp.htv.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === deep` [n=deep@c-9f2a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tmarble [n=tmarble@89.202.240.101] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tru_`z24 [n=truz_`24@74-129-166-232.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] hello Hobbsee === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.140.212.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio__ [n=tonio@81.185.113.176] has joined #ubuntu-motu === radhios [n=radhios@96-208-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee waves [02:46] anyone awake? [02:46] Nope. [02:46] awww [02:46] there's supposed to be a meeting in 15, iirc. [02:47] You're right. Now I remember. [02:47] a MOTU meeting ? [02:47] yes === TheMuso checks agenda. === lucas can fake being awake. but hasn't really follow MOTU stuff recently === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:49] Well clamav is not exactly something I'm interested in, so planning to sleep still goes ahead. === matid [n=matid@195.116.35.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] persia: I've *gasp* set up sbuild + LVM snapshots. [03:00] Ok... What does one do with a merge, if Debian has modified the orig tarball, causing its MD5 to be different, even though the orig tarball version is still the same? [03:01] TheMuso: fakesync, or put the debian changes into the ubuntu version [03:01] depends if it's a merge or sync [03:01] Hobbsee: Merge. [03:01] ...and how does one fakesync? === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] right. take ubuntu's, add debian's changes as applicable [03:01] I haven't had to do that as yet... [03:02] that's effectively a fakesync [03:02] I was hoping it wouldn't come to that. [03:02] Hobbsee: Right. [03:02] StevenK: Great news! How does your experience compare with pbuilder? [03:02] ie, take out any changes that ubuntu doesnt need, add debian's, add the final changelog entry, upload [03:02] persia: It's ... different. And harder to debug. [03:02] Well, this will be fun. Its one of those insane source packages, that puts a tarball inside the source package dir. [03:02] Yummy! [03:02] ooh, yummy! === persia likes DBS :) [03:03] persia: Crazy person. [03:03] persia, heya [03:03] persia, I've just made a debdiff for gpixpod issue === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] bluekuja: Great! [03:04] persia, ;) [03:04] TheMuso: I do a fakesync by checking that the orig's contain the same files and that the package will build with the Ubuntu orig. Make sure the .dsc references the Ubuntu orig, generate a changes file and upload it. [03:05] StevenK: Right. === persia often does debdiff for the debian changes, and tries to apply that patch to Ubuntu === TheMuso could shoot those who decide to do tarballs within a source package. [03:06] persia: Good idea. === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] TheMuso: Why? [03:06] (about embedded tarballs) === bmm [n=chatzill@111-208.kabel.internl.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:07] persia: Because they make things like this just that bit more difficult to work around. [03:07]