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gnomefreakcan we change the .desktop file for granparadiso so it reads granparadiso instead of firefox (development version)03:49
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asacgnomefreak: yes ... will do09:03
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gnomefreakasac: ty10:12
gnomefreakasac: is the commit/push the same?10:13
gnomefreakok now im confused, we are still building iceape-calendar with iceape?10:18
asacgnomefreak: he? ... yes i hoped that debian tarball had it included10:23
asacnow i am unsure :)10:23
asacbut i think we can just grab the stable tarball10:23
asaclet me see10:23
gnomefreaki havent tried to see if it works10:24
asacoh10:24
asacno its not 1.1.x10:24
asachmm10:24
gnomefreaki was assuming no after what pitti said10:24
asacits empty atm10:24
asaci have to talk to debian maintainer ... e.g. if he wants to drop it or add it to tarball forever :)10:24
gnomefreakall iceape calendar is is sunbird right?10:24
asacsomehow related, but not the same10:25
asaciceape-calendar is for iceape what lightning is for thunderbird10:25
asace.g. more or less an calendar extension10:25
gnomefreakoh ok10:25
asacgnomefreak: debian bug 42877510:26
ubotuDebian bug 428775 in icedove "*** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/icedove/icedove-bin: free(): invalid pointer: 0x08edfac0 ***" [Grave,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/42877510:26
asacacutally it has been moved to be a "gutsy" bug10:26
gnomefreakasac: if seamonkey no longer supports it i say dont add it back but it is a good idea to build with it ino10:26
asachave we retrieved something similar from other gutsy users?10:26
asacgnomefreak: i think so yes.10:26
asaci just want to check back with debian10:27
asacif he committs to maintain it in orig, then fine10:27
gnomefreakyes im not sure about the invalid pointer part10:27
asacbut i don't think so, because he alrewady way pissed on stable security upload10:27
asac... as he had to add it there manually10:27
asacgnomefreak: no other report?10:28
asacthen probably his install is borked10:28
gnomefreakim not sure if it has been reported. let me try something10:28
gnomefreakiceape-gnome-support is borked10:29
gnomefreakon gutsy we get :10:30
gnomefreak***MEMORY-WARNING***: iceape-bin[30489] : GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions; memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() has been detected; this program is likely to crash, leak or unexpectedly abort soon...10:30
asacyeah we get that everywhere in mozilla products atm10:30
asaci think its a new warning from latest glib10:30
asacgnomefreak: there should be an upstream bug ... can you search?10:31
asaci will then develop a fix10:31
asac(e.g. if there is no patch upstream yet)10:31
gnomefreakupstream bug for glib bug?10:31
asacmozilla bug10:31
gnomefreakbut the warning im getting?10:32
asacyeah ... just search for g_thread_init + MEMORY-WARNING10:32
asacif there is a bug it should show up imo10:33
gnomefreakok give me a few im fixing my mess up10:33
asacyeah ... no need to hurry10:33
asacappears to cause not much troubles ;)10:33
gnomefreakthan smoke than look :)10:33
asacbut i see people claiming that this is the reason for all there crashes in future :)10:33
asacso better fix it ;)10:33
asacinstead of arguing hundreds time10:34
asacok send mail to debian maintainer list10:42
gnomefreakfirst look nothing found but i havent had coffee nor smoke yet10:42
asacgnomefreak: yeah ... get coffee ... smoke 2 cigarettes ;)10:42
asacthen look again10:42
asac:-D10:42
asacdebian bug 428775 was about tango icons10:55
asacwtf10:55
ubotuDebian bug 428775 in icedove "*** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/icedove/icedove-bin: free(): invalid pointer: 0x08edfac0 ***" [Grave,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/42877510:55
asacwhat are those tango icons ... its not the first crash we received because of them10:55
gnomefreakIMO tango is fairly ugly but lots of people love them10:56
asacare they in some package?10:56
gnomefreaktango == gtk iccon set10:56
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asacyes i know10:57
asaccan you try ... apparently thunderbird just crashes right away if you try to use them10:57
asacWHY!!!10:57
asac?10:57
gnomefreaknot sure what source package is10:57
gnomefreakasac: i dissagree10:57
asacare they installed by default?10:57
gnomefreakyes10:57
asacgnomefreak: on what do you disagree?10:57
asacthat thunderbird crashes?10:57
gnomefreakgive me a minute and ill test but i am 80% sure tbird isnt crashing due to that icon set10:58
asacyeah ... but its definitly not the first who reports that problem goes away using these10:58
asacaeh no using these10:58
Admiral_Chicagoevening...10:59
gnomefreakchange icons than start tbird?10:59
gnomefreaktbird is running fine i think i see your email too11:00
gnomefreaklol @live or let die11:00
gnomefreaktbird works fine with tango icon theme. might want to make sure they are not doing something else11:01
gnomefreakbtw i used to use tango icons and tbird always worked11:02
gnomefreakmaybe is tbird running when they change icon theme?11:02
gnomefreakstill dont see upstream bug on it (the glib error) brb smoke again11:07
asaci will ask reporter to help more11:08
asacbug 11983611:09
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119836 in thunderbird "Latest version hungs after downloading new mail" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11983611:09
Admiral_Chicagognomefreak: do you remember the PW for the channel11:10
Admiral_Chicagoseems i forgot it after all...11:10
Admiral_Chicagoi'll try some more things11:10
Admiral_Chicagoi got it i think11:11
gnomefreakthis channel?11:13
gnomefreaki dont think i ever had it (sure i can find out if needed though)11:14
asacok granparadiso pushed to NEW queue11:14
asac... and updated my bzr branch11:15
asacaccordingly11:15
gnomefreakcool :)11:15
gnomefreakhow long are we gonna leave it in gutsy?11:15
asacactually ... the copyright checkin should be merged to firefox-trunk branch as well11:15
asacdunno :)11:16
asacit will be in universe11:17
asacso ... maybe forever ;)11:17
asace.g. update if final comes out11:17
asacthrough SRU :)11:17
asacthis package is of high strategic value ... ubuntu should be the distribution that you use if you want the latest and greatest firefox :-D11:17
asacactually ... I am thinking about pushing this to debian as well11:17
asacrofl11:17
asacmaybe rename package from firefox-granparadiso to just granparadiso11:17
asacbut i will have to ask mofo about it first ;)11:18
gnomefreakthat would be nice but i think (after helping people for a couple of years) that they wont have a clue and it seems only a handful know how to check with apt-cache11:18
gnomefreakmotu?11:19
asache?11:19
asacin debian they definitly know about apt-cache11:19
gnomefreakyeah it seems the users in #ubuntu dont :(11:19
asacah ... yeah ... those that don't have a clue shouldn't use it11:19
gnomefreakand i wish i was joking11:19
asaci guess once its in the word will spread through forums et al11:19
asacso ... those that are good enough will find out11:19
gnomefreaki heard yesterday that ubuntu devels should troll the forums for wishlist posts for gutsy lol11:20
asacwishlist posts?11:20
gnomefreaki told him to start filing bugs11:20
asacannounce posts to attract more testing11:20
gnomefreakasac: things that people want to see in gutsy11:20
asacgnomefreak: can you install latest gnash in gutsy?11:21
asace.g. mozilla-plugin-gnash ?11:21
gnomefreakgnash == 64 bit?11:21
asacshould be version 0.8.0..something11:21
asacno ... gnash is on every architecture11:21
asac(64-bit as well)11:21
gnomefreaktrying11:21
gnomefreakwhat part is said to fail?11:22
gnomefreak0.8.0.cvs....11:22
gnomefreakoops -cvs11:22
gnomefreaklet me know when you push copyright to trunk11:23
gnomefreaki will than update trunk package11:23
asacgnomefreak: for gnash? it should just work ;)11:25
gnomefreakinstalls fine11:25
asacdamn i prpared an announcement for gnash ... now i cannot find it11:25
gnomefreaki thought you asked because of the bug on it fails to install11:25
asacubuntu-user@lists.ubuntu.com ... is that a valid list?11:41
gnomefreakyes11:42
asacnot ubuntu-users?11:43
asacah forget about it11:43
asacwill just post to -devel ... and post a forum post i guess11:43
asacgnomefreak: do you have gnash installed?11:44
asac(have you removed other flash plugins?)11:44
asaccan you please ensure in about:plugins that you only have gnash serving flash content11:45
asac??11:45
asacthen please test easy-codec-install (before i send out announcement)11:45
asaclike: uninstall gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg11:45
asacvisit http://www.youtube.com and see if a codec install dialog pops up when you want to watch a video11:46
asacthat dialog should suggest you to install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg ... and allows you to select it for install11:46
asaconce your install has finished and you closed the install wizard, the video should just resume to play11:46
gnomefreaki have gnash i didnt remove flash11:48
gnomefreakk ill test11:49
gnomefreakthats odd11:52
gnomefreakthere is no java plugins in about:plugins in firefox11:52
gnomefreakthis isnt good11:53
gnomefreakthe add/remove button on the add/remove applications dialog is greyed out11:54
gnomefreakdouble clicking it brings up confirm dialog11:55
gnomefreaknow the add/remove button is right11:55
gnomefreakIMHO you shouldnt have to double click the codec before you can install it11:56
gnomefreakbut i guess that is easy-codec-install that does that11:56
gnomefreakother than notes above it works great11:57
gnomefreakgnash is working (sweet)11:57
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asacgnomefreak: cool12:01
asacgnomefreak: do you see stripes in the left of the video12:01
asacor does the film look decent?12:01
gnomefreakit looks good12:02
asaccool then its hardware/driver related what i see here12:02
asac... sending announcement :)12:02
gnomefreakk12:02
asacmike plans to reintroduce calendar12:08
asacsee maintainer list post12:08
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asaci will wait half a day then forward that gnash post to forums (to get a feeling how much traffic a post there generates :))12:09
asacpushing orig tarball for grandparadiso takes ages :(12:10
asacthey forgot about my initial orig tarball ... now i have to repush everything :/12:10
asaci already disklike fedora ... they only release DVD ... takes ages to pull12:17
gnomefreaklol12:17
bluekujaheya!12:18
gnomefreakfedora7 is only on dvd iirc but <7 is on cd (multiple) and dvd12:18
gnomefreakmorning bluekuja12:18
bluekujagnomefreak, morning :)12:18
bluekujaasac: :)12:18
gnomefreakasac: you wanted the debian/copyright file in trunk package?12:19
gnomefreakfrom granparadiso12:19
asacgnomefreak: i want the commit merged into trunk bzr12:20
asacthere is also MPL file added et al12:20
asacbluekuja: moring12:20
bluekujaasac: news?12:20
asacbluekuja: granparadiso was already up ... i have to repush, because we missed the copyright files :)12:20
gnomefreak+N  debian/MPL12:20
gnomefreak+N  debian/copyright12:20
gnomefreak+N  debian/docs12:20
gnomefreakthose thats it right?12:20
bluekujaasac: oh :)12:20
asacbluekuja: yeah its me not doing lintian runs on my packages :)12:21
asacbluekuja: but pssst.12:21
bluekujaasac: xD12:21
asac:)12:21
bluekujaasac: I'm really happy for it! :)12:21
gnomefreakdoessnt really matter12:21
gnomefreaki cant upload to it12:21
asacbluekuja: you want to update mozillateam branch from my branch, so we can do development over there?12:22
asacgnomefreak: i will do the merge12:22
bluekujaasac: you mean mozillateam/granparadiso from yours?12:22
asacgnomefreak: actually we can move it to mozillateam as well ... its just that i want the branches i release to official archives from in my space12:22
asacbluekuja: yes ... i fixed a little bit12:23
asacbluekuja: not really fixed ... but improved for upload12:23
bluekujaasac: ok gonna get updates12:23
bluekujafrom your branch and I push to mozillateam12:23
asacbluekuja: yes12:23
gnomefreakasac: once you do merge you can make mozillateam branch than i can build for feisty?12:24
bluekujaasac: sounds great12:24
asacgnomefreak: you can do mozillateam branch as well ... just pull mine, push to mozillateam12:24
asacgnomefreak: next merge over the license commit i did on granparadiso12:24
asacand push to mozillateam branch as well12:24
asacgnomefreak: but at best don't push each single preview release changelog entry update to that branch ... as it clutters and makes merges back and forth from/to granparadiso hard12:25
gnomefreakwell push changes into trunk and ill make branch when i get home later this morning, ill be leaving here in around 30 minutes12:25
asacgnomefreak: if we just to main changes on mozillateam branch i can just mark mine obsolete then12:25
asacgnomefreak: ok12:26
gnomefreakasac: i was just gonna use existing trunck12:26
gnomefreakthat way i can pull and commit all and push (have to look up command if i still have it on how to make branch its --use-existing or something like that12:27
asacgnomefreak: i can push to mozillateam as well12:27
asacok paradiso now finished upload ... lets get it through NEW now12:33
bluekujaasac: done12:33
bluekuja;)12:33
bluekujahttps://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/granparadiso12:33
asacdone what?12:33
asacah pulled/merged ... ok12:33
bluekujapushed up to revision 2912:33
bluekujawhen do you think it will be processed?12:34
asacdon't know :)12:34
bluekuja:)12:34
asaci will ping someone in an hour or so :)12:34
bluekujaehhehe12:35
bluekujasounds great! :)12:35
bluekujaasac: new queue is still stoned12:35
bluekuja:P12:35
asacin debian?12:35
bluekujayup12:35
asacyes likely nothing is going to happen12:35
bluekujayup12:35
asacwhen will automatic imports stop?12:35
bluekuja5 days12:36
bluekujaon 20 june12:36
bluekujaasac: btw fische is not yet in, can I ask a sync?12:36
bluekujaso it's done manually12:36
bluekujaasac: the guy for gmail-notify didnt commented the proxy patch we pushed in ubuntu12:37
bluekuja(the one I asked for an NMU)12:37
gnomefreakisnt the way to make branch bzr commit  bzr push --use-existing http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/trunk12:37
gnomefreakor bzr branch12:38
bluekujabzr branch12:38
bluekujabzr branch url12:38
bluekuja(http)12:38
asacgnomefreak12:39
asaccan you test if gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp312:39
asacgnomefreak: uninstall it and visit youtube12:39
asacdo you get codec install again?12:39
asacor does it play without that package?12:39
gnomefreakrm it and see if easy-codec grabs it12:39
asacgnomefreak: actually if sound plays well after that then i posted the wrong package :)12:40
asacthen its most likely -ugly that needs to be removed to test automatic audio-codec :)12:40
gnomefreaki never had it so youtube doesnt need it12:40
asacyeah12:40
asaccan you remove the ugly package?12:40
asacand test again?12:40
gnomefreakgstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse?12:40
gnomefreakor just -ugly12:41
asacis there any other ugly package? otherwise yes12:41
asacdunno12:41
asacif there is just -ugly then try that12:41
gnomefreakremoving both just to make sure12:41
asacgood12:42
gnomefreakits searching for plugin12:43
gnomefreakgstreamer extra plugins and ffmpeg video plugin12:43
gnomefreakah it keeps log12:44
gnomefreakso its ony installing extra plugins package <where -ugly comes from>12:44
gnomefreakok i really need to get in shower ill wait till the install is done12:45
gnomefreaksound and picture12:45
gnomefreakno lines either12:46
gnomefreakbbiab12:47
asacgnomefreak: we have a better testcase in debian bug 42877512:58
asacnow12:58
ubotuDebian bug 428775 in icedove "*** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/icedove/icedove-bin: free(): invalid pointer: 0x08edfac0 ***" [Grave,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/42877512:58
gnomefreakremind me when i get back i got to get before im late12:58
gnomefreakbluekuja: btw bzr branch <url> doesnt work for creating a branch ill look at it when i get home01:00
bluekujagnomefreak, local branch?01:00
bluekujayou have to bzr push to create it01:01
bluekujaif NEW01:01
gnomefreakcommit first?01:01
bluekujayea01:01
bluekujabzr init in locqal01:01
bluekuja*local01:01
bluekujathen do your changes01:02
bluekujabzr commit -m "changes"01:02
bluekujabzr push url01:02
bluekuja(sftp)01:02
asacgnomefreak: what branch are you trying to create? i am currently pushing to mozillateam (trunk)01:03
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gnomefreakasac: you already made the mozillateam trunk?04:00
gnomefreaki see you did : ty04:01
asacgnomefreak: hope so ... didn't see if finish :)04:01
asacbut should be ;)04:01
gnomefreakits up on LP04:01
gnomefreak22 was last revision04:01
gnomefreakbrb something is wrong here04:04
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gnomefreak@schedule new_york04:08
ubotuSchedule for America/New_York: 16 Jun 13:00: Xubuntu Developers | 19 Jun 15:00: Technical Board | 20 Jun 16:00: Edubuntu | 21 Jun 14:00: Mozilla Team | 21 Jun 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 23 Jun 16:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team04:08
gnomefreakbug 12033704:38
ubotuLaunchpad bug 120337 in boinc "boinc fails to be authorized " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12033704:38
gnomefreakasac: you busy?04:39
asacback04:42
asachat a conference call04:42
asachad04:42
asacwhat can i do?04:42
asacgnomefreak: ?04:42
gnomefreakwe may have a bug we cant fix :(04:42
asacwe have plenty of those i guess ... but lets hear :)04:43
asac`04:43
asac?04:43
gnomefreakim testing all kinds of apps atm. did you see what seb said on the glibc warning?04:43
gnomefreakhttp://rafb.net/p/6KNlSH23.html  just incase you missed it04:43
asacno i have not been summoned to that04:43
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asacyeah its just a warning04:44
gnomefreakboinc is not mozilla app and it happens (im betting i can test 50 apps and 30 will spit that out04:44
asacwhich is spit out in recent glib cversion04:44
asacbut not in in old one04:44
asacso it we had this always wrong04:44
gnomefreakso why cant they fix it in glibc04:44
asacgnomefreak: can you find 2 or 3 small apps that do that?04:44
gnomefreakwhy fix 1000+ apps instead of 104:44
asaci would like to take  a look04:44
gnomefreakbug 12033704:45
ubotuLaunchpad bug 120337 in boinc "boinc fails to be authorized " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12033704:45
gnomefreaktheres one04:45
asacmaybe its a glib bug ... e.g. the application doesn't even use thread facility, but glib wrongfully thinks it does04:45
gnomefreakgxine does it04:45
gnomefreakanjuta does it04:46
asacanjuta is not really a small applictaion04:47
asaci want *tiny* applications that have that04:47
gnomefreakgwget doesnt do it04:47
asacthose are best to debug04:47
gnomefreakasac: im just going through and testing04:47
gnomefreakgxine and bionc are both small apps afaik04:48
gnomefreakit seems kde apps are not affected by this at all04:49
gnomefreakvlc does it04:49
gnomefreakalso crashes04:50
asaccrashes?04:50
gnomefreak*** glibc detected *** vlc: free(): invalid pointer: 0x0839a3c0 ***04:50
asaccrazy04:50
asaccan you spin the same vlc sources in feisty and see if it doesn't crash?04:50
gnomefreaklisten was doing it also like that04:50
asacon the same testcase`04:50
gnomefreaki could04:51
gnomefreakvlc isnt ours though right?04:51
asacits pretty important ... if it doesn't crash then its a hard regression and loads of apps need a fix04:51
gnomefreakthe plugin works fine04:51
asac... we should then probably backup the patch of glib that does that04:51
asacgnomefreak: doesn't matter imo ... if there is an important issue and we can help to track it down ;) ... why not :)04:52
gnomefreakyou want me to spin gutsys vlc for feisty?04:52
asacat least we are somehow related to -desktop team04:52
asacwhich maintains glib :)04:52
asacyes04:52
asacif you have time04:52
gnomefreakasac: maybe because everyone else is saying screw it04:52
asacscrew it how?04:52
gnomefreaki still dont belive its every other app other than glibc that is kind of hard to swallow04:53
asache?04:53
asacno its not glibc04:53
asacits glib04:53
asac;)04:53
gnomefreakfine glib than04:53
asacat least the g_thread_init thing04:53
asac;)04:53
gnomefreakbut its not glibs fault its every other apps fault04:54
asacgnomefreak: its just to prove that the regression is in glib :)04:54
gnomefreak^^ kind of hard to swallow no?04:54
asacgnomefreak: yes it might be .. but changing the behaviour in such a way that application crash that didn't before would not be nice either04:54
gnomefreaki dont have a problem finding the issue at all04:54
gnomefreaki just think instead of saying "its not glib" without looking into it other than the warning it spits out is kind of putting it off04:55
asacyes right04:55
asaceither the warning should have always been there (e.g. not glib problem) ... or having this error condition has become more dangerous04:55
asac... so you come up with hard facts, like showing: same application build against feisty version doesn't crash, while against gutsy does04:56
asacwill help to reconsider04:56
gnomefreakhe seems to do that with alot of things though lately but nothing will change i will build the gutsy app for feisty and test04:56
asacbut its not really bad ... i mean if you are a library maintainer you have to turn down everything until hard facts appear04:56
asacotherwise you would run after everything and most is not related, so wasting your time04:56
gnomefreakwhat am i building :(04:57
gnomefreaki forgot04:57
asacvlc04:57
gnomefreakty04:57
asac;)04:57
=== gnomefreak thinks ive done this before
asacsource from gutsy, build in feisty :)04:57
asacverify actions that crash vlc04:57
asacin gutsy04:57
asacverify if it crashes in feisty as well04:57
gnomefreakwill do but you gotta give me an hour or so04:58
asactake your time :)04:58
gnomefreakim gonna start on it but cant remember how long it took04:58
gnomefreakyou leaving early today?04:58
gnomefreakwell early my time04:59
asaci will stop *working* early, but will be in and out for a few hours i guess04:59
gnomefreaklet me know before you leave if you havent heard back on vlc04:59
gnomefreakholy shit small app depends on 150 build-deps05:01
gnomefreakmaybe a while05:01
gnomefreakok im gonna go look for lunch while this crap downloads05:02
asacgnomefreak: yeah :) ... vlc is probably not a smallish application :)05:04
asacbut don't say it wasn't your choice :)05:04
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gnomefreaki wont05:30
gnomefreaknot smallish my ass its HUGE05:31
gnomefreakshould have it done later this afternoon/tomorrow05:32
asachehe05:34
asacgnomefreak: you could also try to build old glib in gutsy :)05:35
asacthat would even further track this down05:35
asacbut maybe you need to spin old gtk as well05:35
asacmaybe you still have old gtk /glib in your apt cache?05:35
asac@schedule05:36
ubotuSchedule for Etc/UTC: 16 Jun 17:00: Xubuntu Developers | 19 Jun 19:00: Technical Board | 20 Jun 20:00: Edubuntu | 21 Jun 18:00: Mozilla Team | 21 Jun 20:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 23 Jun 20:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team05:36
asacwhen is next CC meeting?05:36
asacso hilario can finally become a member?05:36
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gnomefreakill look05:55
gnomefreaknot yet set05:55
gnomefreakhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda05:56
gnomefreakhe needs to add his info ther05:56
gnomefreake05:56
=== gnomefreak gonna start building this than im gone for an hour or 3
gnomefreakand i will ping seveas over the weekend if i catch hima nd find out when next meeting is since he sets all that up (or used to) i heard he may be away for a bit05:58
gnomefreakis Alex going for membership also?05:59
bluekujagnomefreak, did you dod iceape merge?06:01
bluekuja*do06:01
gnomefreakfor gutsy?06:02
gnomefreakor bzr06:02
bluekujagnomefreak, feisty I think06:02
gnomefreaki have feisty apckages for it06:02
gnomefreaki dont think i uploaded them yet06:02
bluekujahttp://dad.dunnewind.net/iceape/06:02
gnomefreakbut 1.1.2 should be in repo anyway06:03
bluekujalast uploader: john vivirito06:03
bluekuja1.1.2-106:03
bluekujadebian version06:03
gnomefreakbluekuja: i cant upload06:03
bluekujagnomefreak, I know, but I can do that merge06:04
gnomefreakbut i did send 1.1.1 to revu but asac pushed it06:04
bluekujaif you wont do it06:04
gnomefreakbluekuja: done06:04
gnomefreak1.1.2 is uplaoded06:04
bluekujaso why is there?06:04
gnomefreakit should be in new06:04
bluekujaoh^^06:04
gnomefreakthat was done 3 days or so ago06:04
bluekujaok tnx06:05
gnomefreakasac: has to upload to NEW06:05
=== gnomefreak is gonna try to do iceape for a while as it is being used to get me motu
bluekuja:D06:06
asacgnomefreak: add yourself as maintainer for next upload06:09
asacgnomefreak: then nobody will duplicate work06:09
asacgnomefreak: i will push new iceape with empty -calendar package06:10
asacgnomefreak: mike said he kept it empty intentionally because he plans to add it back soon06:10
asac... so lets follow that road06:10
gnomefreakasac: can i do that? since we were told to use motu as maintainer06:10
asacgnomefreak: yeah you can.06:10
gnomefreaktake motu out add me?06:11
asacyes06:11
gnomefreakspin and give to you?06:11
asaci will take the blame if anybody comes06:11
asacits naturally a measure to reduce motus wasting their time06:11
gnomefreaktrue06:11
asacgnomefreak: you could also add mozillateam instead06:11
asacso people will be attracted here in case they want to help06:11
gnomefreaki was thinking that06:11
gnomefreakok i add and push to bzr?06:11
asacmozillateam? .. yes go ahead06:12
gnomefreakok you didnt upload 1.1.2 yet right?06:12
asacwhat is last changelog entry?06:12
asacyou see?06:12
gnomefreaklet me check06:12
bluekujaasac: is true that DDs doesnt see well adding dpatch systems in ubuntu?06:13
gnomefreaknew upstream version06:13
bluekujaasac: e.g in a package without it06:13
asacbluekuja: no idea ... actually i think its nice if you get a distinct patch from us :)06:13
gnomefreakversion is 1.1.2.dfsg1~ubuntu1-0ubuntu106:13
asacbluekuja: i don't think this is common sense (though i might be wrong)06:13
bluekujaok06:14
asaci disagree with most maintainers that don't use patch system anyway06:14
asace.g. don't understand their point06:14
asacgnomefreak: let me check06:14
asacgnomefreak: what is in that changelog entry?06:14
gnomefreak* new upstream version for ubuntu based on 1.1.2.dfsg1-2 * ubuntu changes not in debian are:06:15
gnomefreakits the first one for gutsy for 1.1.206:15
asacgnomefreak: which bzr revision?06:15
gnomefreakoh god hold on a sec06:15
gnomefreak82 is yours06:16
gnomefreaki have 83 due to merging it06:16
asacwhere did you merge it to?06:16
gnomefreakmozillateam one is 8206:16
asacwhat changes do you have ?06:16
asacany?06:16
gnomefreaki took mozillateam and merged to mine06:16
gnomefreaknothing06:16
asacah ... but you were not out of sync?06:16
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gnomefreakasac: i merged due to the changes you made06:17
asacthen uncommit, revert, then *pull* instead of merge06:17
gnomefreakso now mine is same as yours06:17
asacgnomefreak: yes if you are not diverged from me you can just pull06:17
asacand don't get an extra revision06:17
asacyou can just say06:17
asacbzr uncommit06:17
asacbzr revert06:17
asacthen bzr pull06:17
gnomefreakasac: i used --overwrite06:17
gnomefreakso it replaced mine06:17
asacyeah06:17
asacanyway06:18
gnomefreakcan i still uncommit06:18
gnomefreakand be safe06:18
asacdid you publish 83 ?06:18
gnomefreaki pushed06:18
asacyeah ... then you have to --override again06:18
asacor live with the merge :)06:18
asaci think you can live with that06:18
asacanyway06:18
asacwhat was the question?06:18
asacah yes06:18
asacyeah change the maintainer field06:18
asacdocument that in changelog06:18
asacand commit/push that06:19
asaci will pull it over to mozillateam branch before upload06:19
gnomefreakok06:19
asacmaybe drop a note in changelog for the intentional empty-calendar package as well06:19
gnomefreakk06:19
asace.g. that we keep it for now and see if upstream (debian) will readd calendar sources to orig tarball06:19
gnomefreakk06:20
asack out for a while ... let me know when you pushed those changes and name me the revisions i should pull over to branch06:20
asacthen i will upload tonight06:20
gnomefreakk06:20
asacbluekuja: btw, fische is already NEWed :)06:20
bluekujaasac: yup, synced before :)06:21
asacbluekuja: yes06:21
asacpretty quick06:21
bluekujayeah!06:21
asacmaybe not in return of our bug?06:21
bluekujaI want verlihub in06:21
gnomefreakwhats best to use me or mozillateam06:21
bluekujaasac: pitti seen it06:21
bluekuja(the bug)06:21
asacbut i think so, because he added me as the driver of that package (so i am the scapegoat when things are messed up now) :/06:22
asacgnomefreak: i think mozillateam06:22
asacgnomefreak: otherwise it might suggest that you want help06:22
gnomefreakok only one issue whats the email for team06:22
asachehe ... the list06:22
asacyou will find out ... i have to go06:22
asac;)06:22
asacDebian Mozilla Maintainers <pkg-mozilla-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>06:23
asacah06:23
asacthats wrong06:23
asachehe06:23
asac;)06:23
asacthen i don't know06:23
asacdon't have it in address book then06:23
gnomefreakbtw address is ubuntu-mozillateam@lists.ubuntu.com06:28
gnomefreakin /topic06:28
gnomefreakasac: revisions 84 and 85 are the changes i made to control and changelog 83 is just when i overwrote my branch06:38
gnomefreakasac:  vlc does NOT crash on feisty using Gutsys version06:41
gnomefreaki will keep build incase i have to post somewhere06:42
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gnomefreakomg that is cool06:44
gnomefreakok off to run more errands, asac im wondering if we need another example im gonna ask the reporter of the bug # above if it crashed for him06:54
asacwhat is cool ?07:29
asacsomehow back :)07:29
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gnomefreakasac: sudo is cool in gutsy08:13
asacwhy?08:14
gnomefreakgnomefreak@GutsyGibbon:~$ dist-upgrade08:14
gnomefreak[sudo]  password for gnomefreak:08:14
gnomefreak:)08:14
gnomefreakinstead of just password08:14
=== gnomefreak easily ammused
gnomefreakamused even08:15
asacyeah ... thats really a huge improvement08:23
asachttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47340408:23
asacwhy does a forum staff member switch to webmail instead of coming in here?08:23
asachttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2846891&postcount=308:24
gnomefreakwaiting for browser08:24
asacwierd08:26
gnomefreakcant be spell checker08:26
gnomefreakhunspell is not gtk08:26
asacif its really the spellchecker, then he probably has copied old libhunspell over new one manually08:26
gnomefreakit only happens on gtk apps08:26
asacgnomefreak: i don't think that it crashes because of the thread_init08:26
asacit just works here with it08:26
gnomefreakah08:26
asacdid trunk build go well?08:28
gnomefreakstill going08:28
gnomefreakiirc listen gave me that exact issue08:28
gnomefreakwhen i ran it in term08:28
gnomefreakonly on gutsy08:29
=== gnomefreak wonders if i can reproduce it if i should try backporting it and see if it works
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gnomefreakasac: i will test listen tonight and build it if i have to in feisty chroot and see if i crash there too if not than do we have enough to say this is not apps fault? or is it more of well those apps are borked08:33
asacgnomefreak: please try to spin and install feisty glib08:33
asacin gutsy08:33
asacand see if the bug goes away for vlc08:33
bbogarthey all, anyone know if there is a signal I can send thunderbird to save a message being "composed"?08:34
asac(e.g. the gutsy vlc bug)08:34
gnomefreakthats gonna be a nasty build08:34
gnomefreakill try it08:34
asacbbogart: i don't think any exists08:34
gnomefreakglib == related to libc6 for gnome08:34
asacgnomefreak: no08:34
gnomefreakoh good08:34
asacgnomefreak: libglib2.0-008:35
asacgnomefreak: get the source from that in feisty08:35
asacgnomefreak: spin it in gutsy08:35
asacand see if installing it cures you#+08:35
asacand see if installing it cures you08:35
asac(in gutsy)08:35
bbogartasac: damn X crashed, I don't yet have the "ctrl-s" auto-motor-response when emailing. open messages will not get saved when the process gets killed either I suppose?08:35
gnomefreakok will do08:35
asacbbogart: hmm08:35
asacmaybe there should be an "automatic save" option08:36
asacor maybe there even is?08:36
asacbbogart: look in config editor if you can find such an option... otherwise ask on mozillazine forums (beginner forum maybe?)08:36
asacbbogart: if lots of people agree with you in mozillazine that such a feature is necessary and they don't know about such an option, it might be worth a wishlist bug08:37
bbogartasac: I'm taking a look now. I really need to keep my damn X11 from crashing, and then I will not need the feature!!! blech.08:38
asacoh ... yeah ...  i can't help you with that08:38
bbogartasac: should I post under "thunderbird features"?08:39
asacthe only crashes i see are due to breached 3d drivers in games :)08:39
asacbbogart: i don't know maybe ask a support question to figure out if such an option exists08:39
bbogartasac: My only guess is apm, which I will shortly disable, sucks to have thunderbird running there in memory and I can't tell it to save!!!08:39
asacbbogart: yeah i think you should first go to support08:40
asacanf if there is no solution go to features08:40
asacbbogart: it keeps running?08:40
bbogartI can still see the process... maybe its frozen also of course...08:41
asachow to lobby: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=555691 :-)08:42
gnomefreaktrunk is starting to build binaries :)08:42
asaccool08:42
asacbbogart: but i don't agree exactly ... for me you first have to do a bit of lobbying ... then file a bug, then do more lobbying08:43
asac:)08:43
gnomefreaki dont htink it is there yet :(08:43
gnomefreakit ran fakeroot debian/rules binaris08:43
gnomefreakes08:43
asacbbogart: and use the search feature08:43
asacbbogart: they hate people that post duplicates :-P08:43
asacgnomefreak: actually you can use bzr bd ... as well08:44
asacyou just have to produce a orig ... move that to tarballs08:44
asacand go!08:44
asac;)08:44
gnomefreakyeah i know08:44
asack08:44
gnomefreakhey its new give me time to get used to it :)08:44
asacgnomefreak: sure08:44
asacgnomefreak: good news08:44
asacgnomefreak: we have started our weekly phone conversation to maintain 1.5.0.x firefox08:45
asacgnomefreak: with rh08:45
gnomefreakthats good news?08:45
asaclooks like we will really try :)08:45
asacgnomefreak: yeah :)08:45
asacgnomefreak: it was all at risk08:45
asacgnomefreak: then we would have to go directly 2.008:45
asacin dapper08:45
gnomefreak1.5 branch is EOS in a couple of months08:45
asacnow it looks like 1.5.0.13 will come08:45
gnomefreakah08:46
asacgnomefreak: yeah ... we will not let it end :)08:46
asacthats the good news08:46
gnomefreaki hope there are another 2 years worth08:46
asac2 years?08:46
asaci think its 1.5 for us08:46
gnomefreakdapper EOS in 18 months?08:46
asacyou can just hope that 2.0 branh will be maintained until we can drop 1.508:46
gnomefreakgive or take 6 months08:47
asacbecause backporting from 3.0 would definitly be horror08:47
gnomefreakagreed08:47
asacgnomefreak: dunno08:47
asacwhen was dapper released?08:47
gnomefreaki would like to keep 3.0 the hell out of dapper08:47
gnomefreak6.0608:47
asacits 3 years i guess08:47
gnomefreakyes08:47
gnomefreak8.0608:47
gnomefreak1 year08:47
asacwhat is 6.06 ?08:48
asacwhen did that came out?08:48
gnomefreakdapper release08:48
asacjun 2006 ?08:48
gnomefreak6.06 == 2006.june08:48
asacyeah then we have to go until jun 200908:48
asacgnomefreak: you sure?08:48
gnomefreakoh yeah 2 more years08:48
gnomefreakyes08:48
asaci mean edgy didn't came out in oct 200608:48
asacdid it?08:48
gnomefreakyep08:49
gnomefreakfeisty 7.0408:49
gnomefreakgutsy 7.1008:49
asachmm08:49
gnomefreakdapper was a late release08:49
asacok so dapper was delayed08:49
gnomefreakyep08:49
asacdamn08:49
gnomefreaknow its building bins08:49
asacso it will end by 6.0908:49
gnomefreak9.0608:49
gnomefreakyear is first08:50
asacah right ;)08:50
gnomefreak;)08:50
asaci think i will grab a dvd tonight08:50
gnomefreakdvd movie or release08:51
asaci have to give some rest to my wrists and shoulder :)08:51
gnomefreakah08:51
gnomefreakyeah you go rest ill sit here and build08:51
gnomefreaklol08:51
asaclol08:51
asac;)08:51
asacfunny :)08:51
gnomefreakthis looks alot easier than i thought it would be08:51
asacgnomefreak: you can be happy that the computer does most of the work08:51
asacjust imagine you would need to sort and translate all the bits and bytes08:52
gnomefreak!info debhelper feisty08:52
asacby pen :)08:52
gnomefreaktrue08:52
ubotudebhelper: helper programs for debian/rules. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.42ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 502 kB, installed size 1252 kB08:52
gnomefreakhmmmmmmmm08:52
asacwhat do you want from debhelper?08:52
gnomefreakfeisty version08:52
gnomefreakit looked wrong08:52
gnomefreaki thought it was 5.0.2208:53
asack08:53
asacgnomefreak: do you spin libglib atm?08:53
gnomefreakim about to08:53
asacin gutsy (source from feisty) ?08:53
asacgnomefreak: cool08:53
gnomefreakyep08:54
asacjust cross your fingers that you cann replace the gutsy glib without touching anything else08:54
asacmaybe use --force-depends :)08:54
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asacbecause its embedded tarball layout as well08:54
asacbut of differnt layout08:54
gnomefreaki hope tarball is in there08:54
asacits more like the old thunderbird (you remember) ?08:54
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asacgnomefreak: yes08:54
gnomefreakyep08:54
bbogartasac: Thanks for your help, I'll post a message soon, FYI X11 came back to life! *phew* I have no idea what would freeze it for 10min without the CPU being 100%. damn thing.08:54
asacgnomefreak: don't care ... just spin :)08:54
gnomefreaklol08:55
asacbbogart probably has some IO troubles08:55
asacgnomefreak: yes, the package should be fine ... so its nothing to bother about :)08:55
asacthe idea is to prove that the old glib heals all applications :)08:56
asacin gutsy08:56
asacthat now crash08:56
gnomefreakim worried about installing it now but i do have a chroot08:56
asacyeah08:56
asacinstall it in chroot08:56
asacfirst reproduce crashes08:56
asacthen install08:56
asacand see08:56
asack me going down a bit ... will look here later again i guess08:56
gnomefreakok ill let you knwo if anything comes up08:56
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gnomefreakbbl08:58
gnomefreakthat was fast09:10
gnomefreakthis is bad09:12
gnomefreakchroot not playing well09:13
asacglib build?09:21
asacyeah its not that big09:21
asacgnomefreak: just force it into your chroot09:21
asacme now looking video for ~3h09:21
gnomefreakim fixing it the right way09:22
bluekujaasac: do you have a minute to check 2 patches?09:40
bluekujabetter a debdiff09:40
bluekuja^^09:40
gnomefreakwhat is it with these frigging apps not crashing in chroot09:40
gnomefreakbluekuja: hes gone for a few hours09:40
bluekujaaww09:40
bluekujaok09:40
gnomefreakyou running gutsy?09:41
bluekujanope09:41
gnomefreaknot in chroot09:41
gnomefreakah09:41
bluekujafeisty now09:41
gnomefreakasac: when you return if you have gutsy as a full system (not a chroot) please test vlc from terminal see if it crashes. ther eis something that causes apps to NOT crash in chroot but its crashing on main sys09:46
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