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cheeseboywhats a good linux antivirus12:27
TheSheepcheeseboy: the only antivirus programs for linux I know are for scanning e-mails for windows viruses12:28
cheeseboyi have somesort of virus ..12:29
cheeseboyon that pc12:29
TheSheepcheeseboy: what program do you use to connect to IRC?12:29
TheSheepcheeseboy: on that pc12:29
cheeseboyxchat12:31
cheeseboybut i also have an eggdrop12:31
TheSheepcheeseboy: 5 seconds of googling reaveal this:12:31
TheSheephttp://forums.planethzl.com/index.php?s=0668b1c2903fa79409af5fc416082fb8&showtopic=4212&pid=75251&st=0&#entry7525112:31
TheSheepcheeseboy: hope that helps12:31
cheeseboyi look at that12:32
cheeseboybut thats windows app12:32
TheSheepcheeseboy: that's because fixxerbot is a windows virus12:33
cheeseboybut im on linux12:33
TheSheepcheeseboy: for some reason the server you're trying to connect thinks you're using a windows machine that's infected12:33
TheSheepcheeseboy: I'd contact the server support team and try to work it out with them12:33
cheeseboyi have12:34
cheeseboythey have no idea12:34
TheSheepcheeseboy: http://secure.irc-chat.net/info.php?viri=FizzerBot12:35
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cheeseboywhats command to empty trash?12:42
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TheSheepcheeseboy: I don't think there is one, I guess you could try  'rm -r .local/share/Trash/*'12:44
Naughtyboyguys...a little quadcore question.....I got a quad coming my way along with more ram and new mobo....will I be OK with the "generic" kernel the comes with x/k/ubuntu or do I have to recompile the kernel to support all cores..?12:55
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ruksi installed beryl on feisty fawn earlier and lost screen,so i did the sudo dpkg-recofigure xserver-xorg command and reconfigured01:00
ruksbut now when i go to terminal its just a blank white screen,01:00
TheSheep!beryl | ruks01:01
uboturuks: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:01
PumpernickelNaughtyboy: That's fine - quad core / quad cpu is definitely supported.01:01
ruksand i installed ndiswrapper yesterday and changed my reposatories for bcm43xx-fwcutter to get my wireless working,and i have to type in sudo modprobe bcm43xx everytime i wanna conect,is there a way to fix this?01:02
TheSheepruks: yes, add it to your /etc/modules01:02
TheSheepruks: the word 'bcm43xx' that is01:02
ruksi cant get in my terminal :(01:03
TheSheepruks: alt+f2 and type 'gksu mousepad /etc/modules'01:03
NaughtyboyPumpernickel, : OK...thnx for the quick reply01:05
ruksok sheep did that and nothing happened01:06
TheSheepruks: define "nothing"01:08
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ruksit asked for my password,entered it,and then nothing,terminal still is blank white screen with no heading01:09
vidd_bricktopruks what are you trying to do?01:10
TheSheepruks: alt+f2 and type 'xfwm4'01:10
rukscould not open,file not found01:12
vidd_bricktopTheSheep, what y'all trying to do/01:12
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TheSheepruks: you're running xubuntu?01:12
ruksyea01:12
ruksfeisty fawn01:12
rukswait whats that x for?01:12
vidd_bricktopruks, in a terminal..... type sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop01:13
ruksim kinda new to all this01:13
vidd_bricktopxubuntu is XFCE version of ubuntu....as in not gnome desktop01:14
ruksmy terminal is blank since i installed beryl and lost screen and reconfigured it,01:14
ruksi believe my desktop is gnome01:14
vidd_bricktopthen in <alt><f2> type gdm01:14
ruksok typed it01:15
ruksand nothing happened01:15
vidd_bricktophrm01:15
ruksdo u want me to tell u what i did?01:15
vidd_bricktopsure01:15
=== vidd_bricktop missed most of the conversation....
ruksi installed beryl nvidia on here and when i rebooted blue screen came up about the xserver,so i found a thread where someone had the same problem and he used the sudo dpkg-recofigure xserver-xorg command,so i did that and went thru it,got my desktop back but when i go to terminal its a blank white screen with no heading,and some of the beryl stuff isnt working either,im just kinda new to linux and im lost,i wanna make sure im doing ev01:17
=== ruks is a newbie
rukslol01:18
vidd_bricktopdo you have the beryl icon in your lower right corner?01:18
ruksits in upper left with everything else01:19
ruksand on desktop01:19
vidd_bricktopok....] 01:19
vidd_bricktopthen click on it and tell me what options you have01:20
ruksgeneral options,window management,desktop,visual effects,access,extras,development,image formal are the options at the top01:21
rukseach one has their own set of stuff01:21
vidd_bricktopeither window management or desktop will let you turn beryl off and use your gnome, or xfce or whatever (not beryl) window manager01:22
vidd_bricktopwe want you to turn beryl off for now01:23
ruksok i selected gnome as my window manager01:25
ruksberyl is off01:25
ruksterminal is back,so whats up with beryl01:25
vidd_bricktopterminal working for ya now?01:25
ruksyea01:26
vidd_bricktopyer beryl install is toast01:26
ruksahhh crap,so what do i do01:26
ruksi reconfigured my whole x server too cuz of it,i hope i didnt mess anything up01:26
=== vidd_bricktop thinks that the reconfigure x server is what messed it up
ruksmaaaaan01:27
ruksso what can i do01:27
=== vidd_bricktop gave up on beryl months ago....
=== ruks begs for vidd_bricktops help
rukslol01:28
vidd_bricktopthe eye candy was not worth the agrevation...to me01:28
vidd_bricktopruks, i can not help you do something i can not do myself....01:28
vidd_bricktopi was able to recover like i showed you....01:28
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ruksahhh got ya01:29
vidd_bricktopthen i formated and reinstalled cuzz fiesty came out...and neber tried beryl again01:29
ruksso is there no way i can recover back to the way it was setup before the beryl install??01:29
=== vidd_bricktop is sure there IS....
ruksi just gotta find it huh01:30
vidd_bricktopbut when I mess up REAL bad, i just reinstall fresh01:30
vidd_bricktop=] 01:30
=== vidd_bricktop is an expert installer!
vidd_bricktop=] 01:31
ruksahhhh man i dont wanna do that :(01:31
=== vidd_bricktop believes there is a way....something like apt-get (or aptitude if you used that to install) --purge beryl [or whatever the app is called]
vidd_bricktop --purge removes the configuration files01:33
ruksyea but maybe if i just update my reposatories for beryl?01:33
vidd_bricktop....01:33
vidd_bricktopyou can do that01:33
vidd_bricktopim sure if you surf a little, you can find a beryl howto for your card01:34
ruksok so if u were going to use the purge command,give me an example line01:34
vidd_bricktopsudo apt-get --purge beryl01:35
vidd_bricktopsudo apt-get --purge remove beryl01:35
=== vidd_bricktop is not 100% on this.....
ruksits unpacking and removing it01:35
vidd_bricktopgood01:36
ruksi hope nothing else crashes lol01:36
vidd_bricktopif it does, i can help you thru it01:36
ruksi love linux so far because of the control and how smooth it is,but learning to control it and set it up is killing me lol01:36
ruksafter it said removing beryl,went back to root command01:37
vidd_bricktoplol ... where do you think you GET that control;????01:37
vidd_bricktopthere....done01:37
ruksdoes that mean it removed it?01:37
rukscuz its still in toolbar and desktop,and it never said done01:37
vidd_bricktopnow do sudo apt-get autoremove01:37
vidd_bricktopthen reboot01:38
ruksok    0 upgraded 0 installed- 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded01:38
ruksreboot or log out?01:38
vidd_bricktopreboot01:38
=== vidd_bricktop will hunt you down a DECENT beryl walk-thru
=== ruks jumps for joy
vidd_bricktopwhich card?01:40
ruksnvidia geforce4 440 go 64m01:40
vidd_bricktopthis looks promising: http://feistyguide.blogspot.com/2007/05/how-to-install-beryl-nvidia.html01:42
ruksok rebooted and beryl is still in taskbar and on desktop01:42
vidd_bricktopit includes such steps as "back your stuff up"....always the sign of a well written howto01:43
rukshmm i should get rid of this install before i try a new one01:44
ruksi did all that and its still on here01:45
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vidd_bricktop* wave * maxamillion01:45
maxamillionhi hi01:45
vidd_bricktophey maxamillion .... did you ever install beryl on an nvidia card?01:45
maxamillionvidd_bricktop: sure did01:46
ruksahhh it wont go away im stuck with it01:46
vidd_bricktopmaxamillion, good ... ruks is having issues01:46
maxamillionvidd_bricktop: but i used aiglx because the nvidia 9xxx series drivers weren't out yet01:46
vidd_bricktopi helped him get his ubuntu desktop back in working order....and he wants to try again01:47
vidd_bricktopfeel like giving him a hand?01:48
maxamillionvidd_bricktop: ok, let me get the tutorial i used ... i did it over ssh from home to set up beryl on my work machine01:48
ruksyea i wanna try what u just sent me but i gotta get this one off first01:48
ruksheeey that would be great01:48
ruksand if u could tell me how to get rid of this one i installed01:49
=== ruks appreciates help....ALOT
vidd_bricktopruks, chances are it will just re-install that anyway01:49
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barbarahow can I set proper permissions on my new icon in /usr/share/pixmaps ?01:49
vidd_bricktopbarbara, what kind of permissions you want to give it?01:50
maxamillionit appears that the guide i followed doesn't exist anymore01:50
ruksahhh got ya,ok we will see01:50
Jester45 hey vidd_bricktop im back01:50
barbaravidd_bricktop: same permissions as all the pink colored files that are the majority for that directory01:50
godlesshttp://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/12901:51
vidd_bricktopbarbara, that is not very useful..... open a terminal, and typ cd /path/to/files01:51
vidd_bricktopthen do ls -la01:51
ruksone more question before i go thru with this before i forget,i installed ndiswrapper and all that for my wireless,but everytime i wanna conect wireless i have to type sudo modprobe bcm43xx01:52
vidd_bricktopthis will list all the files with thier permissions....01:52
vidd_bricktopthey should look like :01:52
ruksis there a way to keep this in there so i dont have to keep typing it?01:52
vidd_bricktop-rw-r--r--  1 vidd vidd  566 2007-06-13 17:49 .profile01:53
barbaraok that worked I kept thinking it was ls -a01:53
barbarathanks vidd01:53
vidd_bricktopthe -rw-r--r-- is what i need to know what you need it to be01:53
vidd_bricktopruks, i cant help you with ndiswrapper, but i can with the native driver.....01:55
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maxamill1onbah!!!!!!01:56
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barbaravidd_bricktop: I did chown root then chmod -x to the file and at -rw------- so far01:57
maxamill1onvidd_bricktop: can you see what i am reading or have i lagged out again?01:57
vidd_bricktopruks, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper01:57
vidd_bricktopmaxamill1on, i see ya01:58
vidd_bricktopbarbara, what is the permissions of the OTHER files?01:58
barbaravidd_bricktop: the second user listing still doesn't say root though01:58
barbaravidd_bricktop: -rw-r--r--   1 root    root01:58
maxamill1onruks: did you see the link i sent you or did i lag out before?01:59
vidd_bricktopbarbara, sudo chmod 655 i think01:59
vidd_bricktopmaxamill1on, you lagged out02:00
vidd_bricktoppost the link again02:01
barbaravidd_bricktop: that gives -rw-r-xr-x   1 root    user02:02
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godlesssorry about that TED link02:03
godlesswrong channel "02:03
godless:/02:03
barbarafrom this users perspective though its -rw--------- 1 root user02:04
barbaradarn file permissions ate my perfectly gimped out new icon :(02:04
rukshow do i add something to /etc/modules?02:05
ruksi dont know how to open that directory02:05
ruksor any directory for that matter02:05
barbarais there a way to just give it permissions same as another file?02:05
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vidd_bricktopbarbara, then its 64402:06
barbarawhy doesn't it just say 644 then?02:07
maxamill1onruks: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Support_for_nVidia_cards02:07
vidd_bricktopbarbara, if chmod 655 gave you rw-r-xr-x, then 644 will give you rw-r--r--02:09
ruksmaxamillion thats the first install i did02:10
ruksand had problems with02:10
rukshow can i just uninstall the whole thing?02:10
maxamill1onruks: ah .. hmmm02:10
maxamill1onruks: "sudo apt-get purge beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes"02:11
maxamill1onruks: "sudo rm /usr/share/applications/berul-manager.desktop"02:12
maxamill1onruks: "sudo rm /etc/xdg/autostart/beryl-manager.desktop"02:13
maxamill1onruks: "rm ~/Desktop/beryl-manager.desktop"02:13
maxamill1onruks: enter each one of those commands in the terminal and life should be good from there02:13
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vidd_bricktop*wave* somerville3202:15
somerville32:)02:15
vidd_bricktopbeen a while02:16
ruksthe first one didnt work02:17
rukssecond one i mean02:17
maxamill1onruks: didn't work?02:17
Pumpernickels/berul/beryl/02:17
maxamill1onruks: oh, that file might have been removed as part of the first02:17
ruksok desktop icon is gone02:18
ruksstill in taskbar02:18
maxamill1onruks: we will take care of that in a moment02:18
ruksahh did sudo apt-get autoremove02:19
rukslemme reboot02:19
maxamill1onk02:20
ruksits gone02:23
rukssweeet02:23
ruksok so i got another question02:23
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rukswhen i changed my reposatories and installed ndiswrapper etc,the bcm43xx-fwcutter,in order to fire my wireless up i have to type in sudo modprobe bcm43xx02:24
rukssomeone told me i could just add02:24
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ruksbcm43xx02:24
ruksto02:24
ruksetc/modules02:24
rukshow do i do that02:25
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ruksor /etc/modules02:25
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PumpernickelYou open the file /etc/modules as root, and on a new line you type 'bcm43xx'.02:25
PumpernickelThen you save it.02:25
ruksok but i dont know how to open it as a root02:26
ruksim new :(02:26
Pumpernickel(No ''s, of course.  Just the module name.)02:26
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PumpernickelIn a terminal, do `sudo nano /etc/modules`.02:26
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ruksok opened it and added bcm43xx02:27
rukshow do i save it02:28
PumpernickelIt shows common shortcuts on the bottom.02:28
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maxamill1onsheep: ?02:28
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ruks^x to exit,how do i do that02:29
TheSheepruks: press and hold down the 'Ctrl' key and press 'x', the release both keys02:30
PumpernickelYou press control - which is usually abbreviated as ^ - and, while holding it down, press 'x'.02:30
ruksahhh02:30
ruksman how did u learn all this stuff02:30
ruksso nano does what02:30
ruksnavigates?02:30
TheSheepruks: same way as you02:30
ruksyea true,i am learning alot hehe02:30
PumpernickelNano is a text editor.02:30
=== ruks head is about to burst from the onslaught of info in the past 2 days
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rukssweet02:34
ruksso should i just give up on having beryl?02:34
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viddruks, that is up to you02:34
maxamill1onruks: probably for now ... unless you really feel like getting your hands dirty02:34
maxamill1onruks: my recommendation is to let them work out some more bugs (it is still alpha software)02:34
briancrongive up!!!  Did we give up when the germans bombed pearl harbor?02:35
TheSheepGermans???02:35
maxamill1onbriancron: the germans bombed pearl harbor?02:35
maxamill1onbriancron: when on earth did that happen?02:35
TheSheepwow, that means ww302:35
=== maxamill1on missed something
briancronam I the only one who has seen Animal House?02:35
=== TheSheep runs for cover
maxamill1onbriancron: apparently02:35
TheSheepbriancron: yes02:35
Pumpernickelbriancron: yup02:35
=== ruks looks around puzzled
rukslol02:36
=== vidd_bricktop has seen it...in the first run...not on late night tv
briancronjoke withdrawn with apologies02:36
vidd_bricktopit wasnt funny then either02:36
ruksok so u guys helped me fix everything i was having trouble with02:36
ruksso far02:36
rukslol02:36
ruksi just wish i could have beryl,or something like it02:37
maxamill1onruks: we try02:37
ruksnobody on here has it installed with feisty?02:37
briancronwell I bombed in #xubuntu no denying that02:37
briancronI have beryl with fiesty and it works fine02:37
ruksreally02:37
ruksdriver?02:37
maxamill1onruks: i isntalled it on edgy, i deleted it 2 weeks .. it annoyed me02:37
briancrondriver for what?02:38
briancronhave you looked in synaptic?02:38
TheSheepmaxamill1on: having preview of the window contents in the pager would be nice though...02:38
maxamill1onbriancron: are you using aiglx, xgl, or nvidia driver support?02:38
viddimo it adds NOTHING but bragging rights02:38
briancronnvidia02:38
ruksdang thats what i got02:38
maxamill1onTheSheep: yeah ... that feature wasn't there when i tried it02:38
ruksi installed beryl and had trouble with a few things02:38
briancronvidd, I disagree... I got tired of spinning the cube but it's really a functional addon02:39
maxamill1onTheSheep: only thing i liked was the OS X expose' copy cat plugin02:39
TheSheepmaxamill1on: you can have it without beryl, with skippy02:39
viddbriancron, what functionality?02:39
rukspeople do it cuz it looks so damn sweet but i actually do alot with multimedia and switching thru desktops like that and everything02:39
maxamill1onTheSheep: ohhh yes, skippy ... i should look into that02:39
maxamill1on!info skippy02:39
ubotuskippy: full-screen X11 task/window switcher, similar to OSX Expose. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1rc1-6 (feisty), package size 28 kB, installed size 148 kB02:39
briancronsticky screens, scroll windows... snap windows into one view02:39
viddi get the same functionality with freecell...and nowhere near the resource drain02:39
maxamill1onw00t02:39
=== maxamill1on installs
TheSheepmaxamill1on: and 3ddesktop :)02:40
TheSheepmaxamill1on: better install the -nx version02:40
briancronmouse scroll transpartency... meta M turns the screen colors better for nighttime reading02:40
ruksok so what is the best thing i can get02:40
maxamill1onTheSheep: yeah ... i could do that02:40
ruksand briancron u have had no problems?02:40
briancronwell Im not really worried about the resources so it wasn't an issue02:41
briancronno problems ruks02:41
TheSheepmaxamill1on: sorry, it's -xd02:41
maxamill1onTheSheep: 3d desktop is nice, but the wobbly windows and such is annoying02:41
TheSheepmaxamill1on: http://skippy.klik.atekon.de/02:41
TheSheep!3ddesktop02:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3ddesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:41
TheSheep!info 3ddesktop02:41
ubotu3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-6 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 432 kB02:41
TheSheepmaxamill1on: no need for beryl02:41
briancronIm used to the wobbly windows but I agree that the magic of beryl wears off... however many cool usability features are hard to live without02:41
TheSheepmaxamill1on: and it actually has much more options02:42
ruksso briancron how did u install?02:42
maxamill1onTheSheep: nope, beryl is just a pain02:42
viddbriancron, you listed a bunch of "nice to have" features....02:42
briancronvidd: yeah of course, nothing critical02:42
TheSheepbriancron: I tried to use both beryl and compiz, but I couldn't live with their stupid algorithms for window placing02:42
maxamill1onbriancron: usability!?!!? ... there are maybe 2 things i find usable about beryl02:42
briancronruks for fiesty I went to synaptic to install it02:42
maxamill1onTheSheep: what's your opinion of openbox as a window manager?02:42
TheSheepbriancron: and lack of focus stealing prevention on top of that02:42
TheSheepmaxamill1on: never used it02:43
ruksok max so what should i use instead of beryl to get some of the same features?02:43
viddruks, they are talking about 3ddesktop02:43
briancronmouse over the minized icons for a preview... Im not suffering from Vista envy... I started with slackware and Im learning emacs... but beryl is useful as well as eyecandy02:43
maxamill1onTheSheep: ah ... ok, i just recently heard about a guy who uses xfce with openbox as the window manager so i started reading about it .... it seems really nice for just a window manager, i might end up trying it out02:43
vidd!info 3ddesktop | ruks02:43
uboturuks: 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-6 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 432 kB02:43
briancronor Mac envy either...02:43
briancronI meant minimized02:44
TheSheepmaxamill1on: ever seen pkwm?02:44
TheSheepmaxamill1on: it's a bit nicer looking02:44
maxamill1onTheSheep: is that the window manager written in perl?02:44
viddbriancron, im running a vanilla xfce with only one task bar....no M$ envy here either02:44
briancronruks if synaptic will install beryl use it and then turn off anything you find annoying02:44
viddbriancron, we just spend the last...what....2 hours helping him RECOVER from thsat02:45
briancronvidd: no accusing you but I know there is a stigma about beryl... but it's more than just bling imo02:45
briancronoh... sorry I don't mean to confuse ruks02:45
rukshey my mousepad on my laptop on linux if i tap the pad not button it clicks,didnt do that in windows,can i change it cuz i keep clicking on links i dont wanna02:46
maxamill1onruks: touchpad mouse?02:46
ruksyea im just gonna stay away from beryl i guess,tried 2 installs and it didnt work right either time for some reason02:46
viddruks, there is a setting that reduces the sensitivity of it....02:47
ruksyea ya know,its a touchpad mouse lol02:47
rukson my laptop02:47
viddand there is another item to turn it off altogether02:47
rukswindows never let me click with the pad i had to use the button02:47
rukslinux im scrolling and click on stuff by accident cuz of this function,i wana turn it off02:47
viddruks, sorry to hear that M$ prevented you from using one of the STANDARD features of a touchpad mouse02:48
TheSheepmacs have this nice feature -- if you use two fingers on the touchpad, it works as a scrollwheel02:48
maxamill1onruks: there should be a setting somewhere ... i'm not entirely sure where though02:48
TheSheepmaxamill1on: it the xorg.conf02:48
maxamill1onTheSheep: yeah, and there is linux support for that macbook touchpad as well :)02:48
maxamill1onmy X might frag out ... if so, i'll brb02:48
ruksnot that xorg thing man,i had problems with that earlier lol02:49
viddruks, xorg is your friend02:49
ruksis there no way to just go in and adjust the mouse settings,well i see one in preferences02:49
rukshow do i change mouse settings in xorg02:49
viddjust dont use the reconfigure tool02:49
ruksoh heck02:50
ruksmy mouse buttons are all wrong since i did that reconfigure thing earlier when i got that blue screen02:50
ruksbuttons are backwards and pad is wrong02:51
TheSheepruks: man mousedrv02:51
TheSheepruks: or http://www.x.org/current/mouse.html02:51
ruksman mousedrv02:52
ruksok02:52
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barbaraanyone know how to get rid of those transparent bubbles around icon text?02:52
maxamill1onTheSheep: openbox is nice ... not as configurable as xfwm4, but it seems pretty nice for being minimalistic02:53
TheSheepmaxamill1on: but it's ugly :(02:54
TheSheepmaxamill1on: at least most themes02:54
barbaramaxamill1on: configurable? hah far from it, these damn bubbles won't pop on my icons no matter how hard I click02:54
maxamill1onthink so?02:54
TheSheepbarbara: I think I've seen it somewherei n the xfce faq02:54
maxamill1onTheSheep: i thought it looked pretty decent02:54
maxamill1onbarbara: huh?02:55
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maxamill1onbarbara: what are you talking about?02:55
ruksi did man mousedrv and it gave me a bunch of info but how do i change stuff02:56
barbaramaxamill1on: look at an icon on your desktop read what it says now look at what your eyes not think02:56
barbaramaxamillion: yes that visual noise known as transparency ick02:57
TheSheepruks: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf as root02:57
maxamill1onbarbara: i don't have icons on my desktop02:58
barbarahttp://forum.xfce.org/index.php?topic=3446.002:58
maxamill1onbarbara: let me enable then really fast02:59
viddruks, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:59
maxamill1onvidd: gedit?!?!!?02:59
barbarahttp://forum.xfce.org/index.php?topic=3430.002:59
ruksi like it02:59
viddmaxamill1on, he is using gnomer02:59
TheSheepmousepad02:59
barbaraoh and third problem with desktop icons that darn truncating of names02:59
maxamill1onruks: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:59
TheSheepbarbara: just disable the desktop icons :)02:59
maxamill1onruks: use gksudo when using gui programs03:00
barbaraif I wanted to do that I would use fluxbox03:00
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TheSheepbarbara: you can use fluxbox with xfdesktop03:00
TheSheep(or rox)03:00
maxamill1onbarbara: if you want desktop icons you might want to look into ROX Filer ... best desktop icon support on the planet03:00
barbaraI just want icons with no features what so ever, how hard is that03:00
ruksok im in the gedit xorg.conf /etc/X1103:00
TheSheepbarbara: you are sure you don't want panel launchers?03:01
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TheSheepbarbara: it turns out to be hard, because xfce doesn't have much unnecessary options -- just sane defaults03:01
viddTheSheep, i think barbara wants desktop launchers....like windows desktop shortcuts03:01
barbaraI don't want truncating names, transparent bubbles, huge spacing, and maybe turn off some default ones...03:01
maxamill1onbarbara: http://cgi.4chan.org/r/src/1181866339729.jpg03:01
maxamill1onbah!!!!03:01
maxamill1onbarbara: http://rox.sourceforge.net/desktop/static.html03:01
maxamill1onbarbara: wrong link ... sorry03:02
TheSheepmaxamill1on: 4chan :)03:02
maxamill1onTheSheep: :D03:02
viddmaxamill1on, this brings a new light on you!03:02
barbaraI'm just going to go to xfce and start posting up suggestions to all the other unanswered problems about icons on xfce desktop03:03
viddmaxamill1on, its like i almost never knew ya!   lol03:03
maxamill1onvidd: lol, it was actually a link that was sent to me ... i'm not entirely familiar with the site03:04
viddSURRRREEEEEE03:04
TheSheepbarbara: better use their bug tracker to post feature requests03:04
TheSheepbarbara: but don't hold your breath03:04
barbarafeature!?03:05
barbarawhy is a feature not having features?03:05
TheSheepbarbara: configarability of certain aspects of the desktop is a feature03:05
somerville32Are you people planning a Rubuntu? :P03:05
barbaraI mean I'm sure its more minimalist and less on code to remove a few things03:05
viddbarbara, you want to be able to set icons with an optional configuration....that is a featuree03:05
TheSheepbarbara: then remove it, the sources are freely available03:05
barbaraI could configure a different color for the bubble around icon text yes but I don't I want to remove it03:06
TheSheepbarbara: I'm almost sure you can remove the bubble with a gtk theme03:06
barbaraalright03:06
barbarawould any of you be interested in using icons if I did?03:06
TheSheepbarbara: it's mentioned somewhere in the xfce forums or wiki03:06
rukshow do i change the mouse settings?03:06
TheSheepbarbara: no, I don't have iocns on my desktop03:07
barbararuks: under settings03:07
maxamill1onsomerville32: it would be Roxbuntu ;)03:07
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viddsomerville32, rubuntu? sounds like a plan....let me get working on that......03:07
vidd=] 03:07
cheeseboywhats command to reconfigure xorg?03:07
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maxamill1on:P03:07
TheSheepcheeseboy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:07
cheeseboythnx03:07
TheSheepmaxamill1on: clibuntu03:08
cheeseboyand wats nvidia configuration tool called?03:08
viddmaxamill1on, and tecnicly it woud have to be roxubuntu...that (u) is so important!03:08
rukscheeseboy u must be messing with beryl03:08
maxamill1onTheSheep: open box is interesting though ... its a window manager and nothing more, it doesn't attempt to be a de/wm hybrid like flux does03:08
maxamill1onvidd: no ... fluxbuntu doesn't have that u03:08
TheSheepmaxamill1on: twm is more like that :)03:08
viddmaxamill1on, it is also not officially supported03:08
vidd=] 03:09
ruksno im in the gedit xorg.conf for /etc/X1103:09
maxamill1onTheSheep: i will go look into it ... none of them will probably replace xfwm4, i'm just bored and feel like chasing random things03:09
maxamill1onvidd: neither is xubuntu03:09
TheSheepmaxamill1on: play nethack :)03:09
viddmaxamill1on, if they dropped that "x"...they would probably get more conatical support then xubuntu!03:09
cheeseboyruks acyually im trying to setup tv03:10
viddmaxamill1on, xubuntu is no longer officially supported by conatical????? when did this happen?03:10
TheSheepvidd: you are right, the for of xubuntu that dropped the x is already the most supported one!03:10
TheSheeps/for/fork03:10
maxamill1onvidd: what on earth is conatical?03:10
TheSheepconfunical :)03:11
maxamill1onlol03:11
viddmaxamill1on, a badly butcered attempt to spell mark shuttleworth's company without acually looking it up03:11
maxamill1oncanonical03:11
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TheSheepmaxamill1on: they actually hire vidd at Google to invent new misspellings of search terms03:12
maxamill1onyou know what's sad ... i bet they actually have someone there who makes more money per year than i _ever_ will03:13
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joejaxxTheSheep: there is a cli ubuntu derivative03:13
TheSheepmaxamill1on: who cares about money? you have us!03:13
maxamill1onso true03:14
viddheck maxamill1on they probably have ppl there that make more a year then half of us will ever make03:14
rukscan u guys help me with this mouse issue?03:14
maxamill1onjoejaxx: yes, there are _many_ ubuntu derivatives ... but they all display version names in conjuction with the mother distro ;)03:14
viddruks, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-409520.html03:15
joejaxxmaxamill1on: there are too many :P03:15
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barbaragtkrc is how you fix icons on xfce I think03:15
barbarahttp://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes03:16
viddmaxamill1on, the sad thing is that the way things are going with debian, ubuntu may surpass them in functionality03:19
viddand debian may start getting from ubuntu, instead of the other way around03:20
joejaxxvidd: what makes you say that? :P03:20
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cheeseboyhow i setup tv clone w/ nv driver?03:22
maxamill1onvidd: well of course, why would debian developers put forth effort to do things that others are being paid to write ... and write open source in nature03:22
maxamill1onvidd: but one thing i will say for mark is that he recognizes that ubuntu can't exist without debian so he actually has some debian core devs on the pay roll03:23
cheeseboyanyone know03:23
viddcheeseboy, tv clone?03:24
vidd!tv clone03:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tv clone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:24
maxamill1ondinner time .. bbl03:26
cheeseboyvidd put wats on my monitor on my tv03:27
viddoh...03:28
viddno idea....it doesnt just work?03:28
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cheeseboynope03:30
cheeseboyflashed random colors on tv03:31
TailsfanHello, is there a way to easily manage my wi-fi connection on Xubuntu?03:32
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Pumpernickel!info wifi-radar03:34
ubotuwifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 232 kB03:34
barbaraalright I got a theme I wish to use to fix my issues with icons however user interface preferences will not list my theme even though its in the correct directory..03:42
barbaraoh well I'll just keep tweaking theme a bit more until then03:42
viddanyone have any recomendations for this display adaptor (besides replacing it with something decent and linux friendly)? 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev 01)03:44
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rukstrying to install mac flash 9....instructions say to unpack it which i did its located at /home/david/Desktop it says in terminal navigate to location and type : + $ ./flashplayer-installer03:48
rukshow do i do the first part?03:49
Pumpernickelvidd: http://www.openchrome.org/03:49
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viddPumpernickel, ty03:49
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viddwb maxamillion think you can stay for a while this time?03:49
maxamillionvidd: uhmm... possibly, what's up?03:50
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vidd01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev 01)03:50
ruksi dont know how to navigate there03:51
viddPumpernickel, have you installed this card b4?03:52
maxamillioni believe module or driver would be appropriate03:52
viddruks, you just want the flash plugin?03:52
rukswell i downloaded the tar.gz and unpacked it and thats what the installation instructions said03:53
ruksso i can watch stuff on youtube and what not03:53
viddruks, just go there, and click on the "install plugin" link...and let firefox do it for you03:54
maxamillionruks: just openfirefox, click .... nvm, vidd beat me to it03:54
maxamillionruks: firefox will do it automatically for you03:54
rukssweet!!03:54
viddYES!!!!! i get to beat out someone!!!!!!!03:54
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ruks1this is the link it took me to03:58
ruks1http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash03:58
ruks1its not showing me anything thats gonna do it for me03:59
viddshockwave???03:59
maxamillionyeah .... there isn't any shockwave support for linux04:01
ruksmacromedia flash player04:01
ruks904:01
ruksfor linux04:01
maxamillionflash player != shockwave04:01
viddruks, that is flash...not shockwave04:01
ruksyea but why is it telling me i can download this then04:02
ruks1Installing the plugin tar.gz using Install script:04:02
ruks1   o Unpack the tar.gz file04:02
ruks1   o In terminal, navigate to the unpacked directory and enter:04:02
ruks1          + $ ./flashplayer-installer04:02
ruks1          + Click Enter key and follow prompts04:02
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ruks1unpacked directory is /home/david/desktop04:02
viddthat is for the FLASH PLAYER not shockwave04:02
ruks1it said plugin,i went to youtube and instead of video it has a spot that said download plugin04:03
ruks1clicked on it and thats what it gave me04:03
maxamillionruks1: don't use the flash player installer ... just let the firefox plugin manager do it for you04:04
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ruksand how do i do that04:04
viddmaxamillion, before i get too far in this....04:05
viddhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome04:05
vidddo i need to install the 2d before the 3d?04:05
ruksit says i have javascript turned off or an old version of shockwave and has the link that gives me what i got already04:05
viddor is it one or the other?04:05
maxamillionruks: go to youtube.com, at the top of the page firefox will have a little button that says "install missing plugin", click it and then agree to the user license, click next a couple times and you are done04:06
ruksthats what i did,and that tar.gz file is what it gave me,it didnt install it for me04:07
maxamillionvidd: i would imagine its one or the other04:07
maxamillionvidd: if the 3d one supports your card then go with that04:07
maxamillionvidd: i really don't know to be entirely honest, but i would assume it to be one or the other and that some of the via chipsets don't support 3d04:08
maxamillionruks: then something is wrong04:08
viddruks, then install sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs .... then restart firefox and go to that page again04:08
viddmaxamillion, wish me luck then04:08
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maxamillionvidd: good luck04:09
maxamillionbah!04:09
maxamillionmy fiance has informed me that it is time to bathe the dog ... wish me luck04:09
maxamillionbbl04:09
rukslol04:10
ruks1did it,installed the stuff went to youtube and it says the exact same thing :(04:11
ruks1can someone just tell me how to do it this way04:12
ruks1Installing the plugin tar.gz using Install script:04:12
ruks1   o Unpack the tar.gz file04:12
ruks1   o In terminal, navigate to the unpacked directory and enter:04:12
ruks1          + $ ./flashplayer-installer04:12
ruks1          + Click Enter key and follow prompts04:12
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ruks1directory is /home/david/Desktop04:12
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viddthen cd /home/david/Desktop04:13
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vidd*wave* cellofel1ow04:14
ruksok typed in that and it said command not found04:18
ruksso what would be the full command?04:18
viddthe full command is cd /home/david/Desktop04:20
viddthat puts you into the directory you want to be on04:21
ruksman it says my architecture x86_64 is not supported by flash player installer04:23
ruksbut it told me on the site it was what was for my platform etc04:23
ruksso what can i use for a plugin to watch stuff04:23
viddsorry, ruks no idea04:25
viddbut THAT explains why you couldnt just click the link to auto install04:25
ruks1got ya04:26
ruks1is it cuz i have the 64amd?04:26
viddyep04:26
ruks1i think that would be better wouldnt it?04:26
ruks1so no suggestions for  3d desktop?04:30
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viddweird....04:41
viddmy gxine is all out of wack when i play a video....cant see anything, but when i get a snapshot, the image is crystal clear04:42
viddanyone have any idea why?04:42
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technelGNOME took over my desktop. How do I get xfce-desktop back in control?05:06
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technelGNOME took over my desktop. How do I get xfce-desktop back in control?05:23
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jgamiohow can i test my microphone05:58
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technelMy previous install of Ubuntu (Gnome) started up in 10-15 sec at most. I installed Xubuntu and I just timed it--the screen that just says "Xubuntu" and has a loading bar was up for 2 min, 20 sec!! Am I doing something wrong?06:28
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That_HalflingAnyone able to give me a hand with an installation issue?06:37
That_HalflingTrying to install on a Panasonic Toughbook CF-R1 and everytime I go to start the installer(Alternate CD) it just boots to a flashing cursor and sits there06:38
That_HalflingNo ideas?06:40
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klhrevolutionistwondering if xubuntu installer bug was fixed and .iso was updated ?07:08
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neozenmeep?07:39
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vidd_if you can help it, avoid verizon dsl like the plaque07:52
vidd_plague*07:52
vidd_as soon as they here"linux" they try to hang up on you07:53
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viddanyone know anything about gxine?08:02
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viddj1mc, you know anything about gxine?08:09
j1mchey vidd... no, not really.  :(  sorry.08:11
j1mci've used it very little.08:11
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test3rhey - does ne1 use the Usenet in here????08:16
j1mctest3r: why do you ask?08:16
test3rim trying to pull it up - and im getting an openSSL error08:16
test3ri tried re-installing the openssl pack, and its not fixing it08:16
test3rnot sure what to do.08:16
j1mchmmm... not sure either.08:16
j1mchave you searched google or anything?08:16
test3rwould it say that if im not using the correct nn////pass ?08:17
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test3rit would say something diff, yes?08:17
j1mctest3r: sorry, i really have no idea.08:17
test3rwell - what do You use j1mc ?08:17
test3reven tin is having problem going at all08:17
viddquestion....how do you set up mplayer to view dvd's?08:18
test3ryou'll want to use the Automatix packedge for that stuff, probably. it will make you confirm you are in the US, then it will install things for you to view DVD, I think08:20
viddisnt automatix like...huge?08:21
j1mctest3r: i can't remember the last time i used usenet... :(08:22
j1mctest3r: vidd... try to avoid automatix.08:22
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j1mcit can cause problems when you go to upgrade your system.08:23
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viddi asked if it was huge...then nothing08:24
test3ryou don't have to install everything it offers08:25
test3rit is a packedge manager thing08:25
test3rnothing more08:25
j1mcvidd: i wouldn't recommend automatix.08:25
j1mcif you add it's repositories, and then go to update your system . . .08:25
test3rand if you up your system, im not sure if it works like every other packedge or not08:25
j1mcif their repos aren't updated, it will cause problems.08:25
j1mcautomatix is not really necessary now, anyway.08:26
j1mcsearch for the libdvdcss file... i think that will do it for you.08:26
viddi have it and installed....08:26
viddmy issue isnt with getting the thing to play....08:27
viddthe picture is messed up08:27
viddwell....in gxine it is08:27
viddmplayer just dont play it08:27
test3ryeah back when i even had totem installed too trying to get stuff to pplay right08:28
test3ri dunno - j1mc must be majic codec man or something  =D08:28
viddtest3r, libxine-extracodecs works wonders08:29
viddthat and libdvdcss is all i should need...08:29
viddall i needed on the other EIGHT boxes i have08:29
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test3ri had libxine08:31
test3rplugs-bad08:31
test3rbad-multiverse08:31
test3rgood08:31
test3rgood-multiverse08:31
test3r...etc..08:31
test3rsome stuff just wont play right on here - Yet.08:31
viddtest3r, name one thing you cant play08:32
test3rwell, lets start with mediaplayer10+ files08:32
viddbesides web content that discriminate based on reported os08:32
test3ralso - some old janky 3.11 DiVX wouldnt play correct either08:32
test3rmightve been crazy 5 tho08:33
test3ri think i only had it going bak wiht NEMOs pak like 4 yrs ago08:33
viddwhat cant you play TODAY?08:34
viddand i think i got windows media to play....08:34
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vidddont recall08:35
test3ro i dunno i havent tried sorting thru playing stuff , anymore, rly.  u know - i should try DVDs on my notebook, though08:35
test3ryes old WMP9- filesw will play08:35
test3rbut the newer ones wont go08:35
test3ru can tell pretty quickly the ver.#  in this way08:35
viddtest3r,  make sure you install the extracodecs08:36
test3rOK.  Im going to try that right now 4 us. Hey - do u use Newsgroups at all on here?08:36
test3rim having problem wiht OpenSSL and it08:36
test3rmainly openssl appears its not starting08:37
test3ris that something ihave to start up manually?08:37
viddi dont...no08:37
test3rlike should my cmnd b liike:    sudo openssl [switch]  NEWSREADER-PROG [adress////name////pass]     ?08:38
viddtest3r, man openssl?08:38
test3ryeah i did it can do alot but nothing that was useful lol08:38
test3rit looks like it should just be going?08:38
test3ris there a way i should b chekcing for that?08:38
viddidk08:38
test3rhow do i r chek my daemons?!?08:38
viddagain...idk08:39
test3rooooooooooo - it looks i need a NNTPd08:40
test3rhttp://www.linux.com/howtos/Usenet-News-HOWTO/index.shtml08:40
test3r=)08:40
viddaint google great?08:42
test3rweeeeeeee! LOL i dont use google as the corperations pressure them. i use webcrawler because it is the best of All worlds08:43
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vidd_verizon is evil08:57
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Chikubunebody alive?08:59
viddyeah08:59
viddnot for long though09:00
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Chikubuxubuntu doesnt seem to detect my ct2980 sound blaster, ideas?09:00
Chikubuisa09:00
viddisa?09:01
Chikubuyeah09:01
viddwhat is isa?09:01
Chikubunot pci09:01
viddoh...dont mind me...im super tired09:02
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Chikubuk cya09:02
Chikubunebody else alive?09:03
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test3rwhatups09:07
test3rim playing retail steve martin dvd right now , too, on my Laptop09:07
test3r=)09:07
Chikubuproblems with isa sound card09:07
ChikubuBUT!!!09:07
Chikubui just remember i have an external usb sound card in a box!@09:08
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test3ri think Automatix set all of it up for me  - i hope you're incorrect about the upgrade troubles09:08
test3rYep- I used automatix2_1.1-4.2-7.04feisty_i38609:09
test3rnp >> The Lonely Guy09:10
test3r=/09:10
test3rlol i can resize the window to Any size too09:10
test3rand its going still09:11
test3ralso it must not b gxine thats running it because that errored out attempting to try the retail dvd09:11
test3rthe one that is running current plays all dvd i test now09:11
test3ris Totem09:12
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test3rnice, tin runs now09:25
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logmeinheya ~homies11:04
logmeinwhen gutsy coming out :)11:05
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novato_brhi dudes, how can I install on kernel compile, the reader memory cards ?11:14
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grazienovato_br: are you asking how to compile the kernel or what option(s) to enable or both? I know nothing about reader memory cards though.11:24
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novato_brgrazie, i want compile the kernel and install memory card reader11:26
novato_brthe memory card reader is usb11:26
novato_brbut the debian distro doesn't recongnized it11:26
grazie!kernel | novato_br11:27
ubotunovato_br: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild11:27
novato_bri was on there11:27
novato_brand I didn't find anything about this11:27
grazienovato_br: I don't think those instructions are very good...I've got a better link somewhere for compiling kernel11:28
novato_brbut don't you think that I am looking for ?11:29
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novato_bri'm looking for any place11:29
novato_bri didn't find11:29
graziesuggest using google to search for "memory card reader linux kernel". As it's usb, some options are enable by default, but you may need others11:29
novato_brmemory card reader is not popular11:30
novato_brheehehe11:30
novato_brok11:30
graziesomeone else has already had and solved this problem I am certain :)11:30
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novato_brgrazie, i didn't find  and the most links talking about PS311:32
elbingllevo 8 aos con tux, 11 en unix, 6 de sysadmin en la empresa... conoc xfce hace tiempo, me enamor de l hace dos meses. Ayer puse esta distro en mi laptop. Sinceramente y a quien corresponda: felicidades11:32
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elbingups sorry11:32
novato_brwow, spanish11:32
novato_brhi, elbing, you entendi el todo que tu dice11:33
elbinghe he, yes, I forgot that this channel is an international channel11:33
elbingwell, nice distro in any case11:33
novato_brsoy brasileo11:33
elbingthanks novato_br , sorry for the spam people11:33
elbingwell I'm spanish11:33
grazienovato_br: not something I needed to enable myself, so I can't help. If I come across something I'll post you a message11:33
elbingare you in #debian-es or anyone has your nick?11:34
novato_brok, grazie, thx11:34
novato_brno, elbing . i'm not on debian-es11:34
elbingcoincidence11:35
elbing:p11:35
novato_brsomebody must be with the same nickname11:35
test3ri just set a custom sound trimmed with Audacity to my start sound in here !11:35
test3rOK- so how do i theme my login screen ?  =911:36
test3rwith a custom stuffs11:36
elbingto run jackd in realtime mode should I install a lowlatency-kernel as other ubuntu's?11:37
novato_brgrazie, baby, my problem is: after kernel compilation11:39
novato_brMMC/SD memory card reader does not work11:39
grazienovato_br: why are you compiling the kernel?11:40
novato_brI can get better perfomace and optimized system11:41
novato_bri'll have to go! I need work! Thx grazie, i'll see late11:42
graziethen it seems that you are optimising out an option that you need!11:42
novato_brok11:42
novato_bri cya11:42
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alnoktawhy not add the ability to choose certain packages inside the 'Language Support' program?12:10
TheSheepalnokta: because when you only want certain packages, you can use synaptic and/or apt-get/aptitude12:11
alnoktaTheSheep, but i don't want the help of ooo12:12
alnoktai just wanted to add another keyboard12:12
TheSheepalnokta: then remove it12:12
alnoktaits downloading ;)12:13
TheSheepthen stop it and install wahtever package you need with synaptic12:13
alnoktaok, stopped12:15
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test3rnifty! you can really customize the boot screen alot if you want to!12:38
test3rI'm going to do something really neat with it.12:38
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test3rne1 a fan of CowboyBeBop?01:27
TheSheep!ot | test3r01:34
ubotutest3r: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!01:34
test3r!nm applet01:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nm applet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:41
test3rdoes ne1 know how to combine that NM applet thing with wifi-radar onto the taskbar? for a real-time monitor?01:42
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test3raaaaah, acording to come logs from this channel, maxamillion already listed some programs being worked on for wifi users! I hope they work out- it will be pimp to have a tiny monitor / switcher on the icon bar01:52
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frojndhello there02:01
frojndwhat's the name of print screen program for xubuntu?02:02
frojndit's good if it's gnome02:02
test3r/usr/bin/screendump send it to STDOUT02:04
test3rcant get more raw than that =)02:04
test3rdunno what ur looking to DO, thought02:05
frojndto make a screen shot :) but it has to be gnome02:05
frojndksnapshot it's got but it's kde02:05
test3ryou can add it to the shortcut bars at the top so you can click it to take a screenshot02:05
test3rI have no idea.  try clicking your bar and goto "add item" it might be in the list02:06
test3rwe have a lil pic of a camera for us02:06
frojndoh, it has to be xfce :P02:07
frojndI have to go .. bbl and I'll bother later :)02:07
test3rez02:07
TheSheepfrojnd: gimp02:11
TheSheepfrojnd: you can also add a screenshot plugin to your panel02:11
TheSheepfrojnd: or install a command-line program like scrot02:11
test3rgimp itself can take a screenshot? does it include its own interfaces on the screen?02:12
TheSheeptest3r: yes, if you want to02:13
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test3rcrazy!.  Hey i just cheked out the plans: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe1/Xubuntu02:17
test3rlooks nice - especially the bit about being able to format/write USB key drives now. Ive only tried copying off them in the past, and it can read from them as expected, but that's as far as I went02:17
test3rone thing I don't want is the RW of the NTFS sectors messing something up, though. I'm sure it will be plenty past those bugs by the time it is stable. It seems odd the day has finally came02:19
test3rI'll think I'll wait until an upgrade solution from Feisty is fleshed out though- I'm not even sure if I will. It's working quite nice, now, & see little reason to change it02:21
test3rI'll be using the new version on Some box, though02:21
test3rjust not the laptop, heh02:21
greg__I installed Tribe1 on a spare harddrive and did the long test. Where should I post the results?02:22
greg__There were a couple of things I found kind of odd...like the partitioner called my ide drives sda, sdb etc02:24
greg__And you may delete a user without admin privelages02:25
TheSheep!testing02:27
ubotuFor information on how to help test the next release of Xubuntu and for the results matrix, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Xubuntu/Current02:27
test3ri just recently figured out the /dev/cdrom link is in fact a 'ghost' SCSI link (its faked)  so that it works with certain other programs that ship as our main toolset02:27
greg__thanks02:27
test3ri also learned learning all this that native interface to ALL cd drive is scsi (at least im Pretty sure thats what they meant)02:28
test3rATAPI is just afake layer and when it comes down to it- it is still using scsi commands02:29
test3rSO- maybe thats why you see that as the HDDs showing up02:29
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test3rit is showing the tru interface through???? (although I didnt think it applied for HDDs)02:30
test3rfine then - LEAVE ! Yeeeaaaah.02:30
test3r;p02:30
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barbarathink I found what I was looking for yesterday something called kolorizer to edit gtkrc files03:24
barbarasurprised there no xubuntu equivalents03:24
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frojndphello there03:55
frojndpI have some serious problem out there with my screen...03:55
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barbarafrojndp: like what?04:01
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frojndpbarbara: like that: http://shrani.si/files/snapshot111yfz.jpg04:08
frojndpwhen I minimize things, the dissapear04:08
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TheSheepfrojndp: just add the task bar to one of the panels04:09
TheSheepfrojndp: or, if you don't like the task bar, use icon box, or make the desktop display icons for minimized applications04:10
alnoktathis buntu hanged for no good reason!04:10
TheSheepfrojndp: you can also get to the minimized windows by clicking with the middle mouse button on the desktop04:11
barbarawtf lol04:11
barbarafrojnpd: learn to right click and customize, its quite easy once you get hang of it04:11
frojndpI see04:12
frojndpmiddle click ok04:12
barbaratry all the applets out04:12
barbaramiddle click? what sort of mouse you using?04:12
barbara:/04:12
frojndpam.. thrust :) :P04:12
frojndpTrust*04:12
frojndphow can I add taskabar04:13
TheSheepfrojndp: right-click on the panel, select 'add item' and select task bar from the list04:14
TheSheepbarbara: you're ona mac? ;)04:14
barbaranah standard 2 buttons and middle scroll with click, no curves so can be either right or left04:16
TheSheepbarbara: and where is the scrollwheel that you push to click located? :)04:17
barbaramiddle04:17
TheSheepactually we still have some 3-button no-scrollwheel mice here04:18
frojndpwhy is "The sun" in the upper left corner? http://shrani.si/?snapshot111yfz.jpg  on my desktop?? how can I get rid of it ?04:18
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barbaraits another panel you have04:18
barbararemove panel 204:18
barbarawith the minus sign04:19
frojndplemme try04:19
frojndpok good04:19
frojndp2 problems are godd now04:19
barbarawow 13G kind of small04:19
frojndpbut there I have the biggest rpoblem. Picture is repeating itself on the bottom of screen, I tryed to screened it but I wasn't able, I think its some kind of monitor error. How can I reset all display setttings?04:20
frojndp13gb for programming is far to big :)04:20
TheSheepfrojndp: try different modes with settings->display settings04:22
frojndpanyways, this is quite annoying, couse picture is starting to repeat itself on the monitor (2cms of monitor on the bottom)04:22
TheSheepfrojndp: seems like your monitor doesn't handle that large resolution well04:22
frojndpTheSheep could be, y es04:22
TheSheepalternatively, try to use the controls on the monitor to tune it04:22
barbaraah programming I usually use anjuta for04:22
TheSheepsight, the GUI generation :)04:23
barbaraTheSheep: you ever find that article on removing icon bubbles?04:25
TheSheepbarbara: no, sorry, didn't have time to look at it04:25
barbarawell I tried toying with gtkrc of themes but so far no luck and having trouble with the hex codes for colors04:25
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frojndpnow there is no repeated picture :)04:27
frojndpbut my layout ve switched to US04:28
frojndphow can I change it to si, slovene slovenija..04:28
frojndpanz idea how to change layout. I tried in settings > keyboard but no luck04:31
barbarainstall the language pack04:31
barbaraunder synaptic04:31
frojndpcan ugive me command04:33
frojndpfor termila04:33
frojndpterminal04:33
frojndpcant find specific caracter04:33
vidd_laptopsudo synptic04:34
TheSheepthere is a panel plugin for changing the keyboard layout04:34
vidd_laptopsudo synaptic04:34
frojndpoh u mean GUI advanced packave04:35
frojndppackage*04:35
TheSheepyou can also use settings->languages to install the language packs04:35
vidd_laptopTheSheep, i know so few GUI solutions for linux....=] 04:38
vidd_laptopthe CLI is so much better04:38
vidd_laptopto think...13 months ago i was afraid of the command line!04:38
Catoptromancyheh04:38
Catoptromancyfirst thing i was was learn a bit of bash04:38
TheSheepthis is some weird conditionaing -- I don't really know where it comes from04:38
Catoptromancyand I used batch files all the time in Windows, so I learned shells very fast04:39
frojndpam... if I change keyboard an monitor, how can reset settings ??04:40
frojndpwhat is the command for that04:40
frojndpoh and how can I reset refresh rate ?04:41
frojndpnow its on 60. bu my CRT monitor can handle 85 :D04:42
frojndpmHZ04:42
CatoptromancyI would think it was adjust from monitor04:43
CatoptromancyNewer monitors have built in refresh rate04:43
frojndphow can I limit download rate_04:43
frojndpis there any command or program to do that ?04:44
alnoktaTheSheep, you have an idea why the computer flashed a skygreen screen then hanged? the keyboard, mouse..nothing04:45
TheSheepalnokta: no, looks like a hardware problem though04:46
alnoktaTheSheep, but don't occur on winxp?04:47
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MeneerEello05:23
MeneerEi cant get acces to root05:23
MeneerEand i am sure i am typing the correct pass05:23
TheSheep!root | MeneerE05:24
ubotuMeneerE: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo05:24
MeneerEi want to install http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting05:25
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MeneerEi got the self extracting package05:26
TheSheepMeneerE: why don't you install the java from repositories?05:26
TheSheepMeneerE: it's prepared and ested05:27
TheSheeptested05:27
MeneerErepositories?05:27
MeneerEwheres that?05:27
MeneerEapt-get install java?05:27
TheSheep!repos | MeneerE05:27
ubotuMeneerE: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource05:28
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MeneerEit doesnt say where these repositories are05:30
MeneerE._.05:30
TheSheepMeneerE: they are on the ubuntu servers all over the world05:30
MeneerEtheres no internet on the laptop05:31
MeneerE:/05:31
TheSheepMeneerE: then get a deb from packages.ubuntu.com05:31
TheSheep!find sun-java605:32
ubotuFound: sun-java6-bin, sun-java6-demo, sun-java6-doc, sun-java6-fonts, sun-java6-javadb (and 4 others)05:32
MeneerESource Package: sun-java6, Download: [dsc]  [sun-java6_6-00.orig.tar.gz]  [sun-java6_6-00-2ubuntu2.diff.gz] 05:35
MeneerEwhich one?05:36
Jester45sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-jdk05:36
TheSheepJester45: why would he need the java development kit?05:36
Jester45i would do the ubuntu one05:36
MeneerETheSheep: programming robocode05:36
Jester45i just saying the other sun-java6 packages i know of05:36
TheSheepMeneerE: don't download the source package, you need the .deb the link is higher05:36
TheSheepMeneerE: click on the x86 (or i386) above05:37
MeneerEhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=sun-java6-jdk&version=feisty&arch=i386&page=1&number=50 <-- that?05:38
TheSheepMeneerE: no, this http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Fs%2Fsun-java6%2Fsun-java6-jdk_6-00-2ubuntu2_i386.deb&md5sum=910445a56954b69efce803a64182fcc8&arch=i386&type=main05:38
MeneerEwill robocode install itself? (its a jar)05:39
MeneerE.jar*05:39
TheSheepMeneerE: you don't need to install jars to run them05:40
MeneerEerror: dependency is not satisfiable: sun-java6.jre05:42
MeneerE-jre *05:42
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TheSheepwell, some packages require other packages to be installed05:42
TheSheepyou will get all of them from packages.ubuntu.com05:43
TheSheep(synaptic would download them automagically if you had internet on that laptop)05:43
Jester45MeneerE, you have to get that package also and install them at the same time05:44
MeneerEso i need the jre evironment too?05:44
MeneerEto make it work05:44
Jester45yea if it says it needs it to install then you do need it05:44
TheSheepMeneerE: you need only the jre environment to run the java programs, you only need jdk if you want to write and compile java programs05:44
MeneerEi want to write, run and compile05:45
TheSheepMeneerE: you need the java plugin if you want to run java applets in your browser05:45
TheSheepthen you need the jre, jdk and plugin05:45
MeneerEhttp://robocode.sourceforge.net/ <-- doing this05:45
MeneerEhow are you able to search on that ubuntu page?05:48
MeneerEah, found it05:50
TheSheepit's alittle awkward05:50
MeneerEindeed it is05:51
MeneerEnow for the pluging05:51
MeneerE-g05:51
MeneerEonce you get the hang of it, its quite easy, i bet05:52
Jester45many things are05:52
Jester45TheSheep, can you look at http://jester45.homelinux.net/ and tell me why the background of the page is not black05:53
TheSheepJester45: oh, that;s simple. it's because it's white :)05:54
Jester45wait... did i put the color as white?05:55
TheSheepJester45: no, but you used a 20 years old depracated attribute directly in your hatml05:55
TheSheephtml05:55
Jester45i have tried using css and html05:55
TheSheepJester45: remove that and but 'html {background:#000}' in the css instead05:55
TheSheepJester45: also, your html lacks doctype05:57
Jester45ok... it changed but the cell spaceing is white still05:58
Jester45does it need it ?05:58
Jester45i all ways took it out to gain a tiny bit more speed05:59
TheSheepJester45: you have a spurious } in your css05:59
Jester45?05:59
TheSheepJester45: and remove that body {06:00
TheSheepbackground:#ffffff;06:00
TheSheep...06:00
TheSheepJester45: that .css file can be stripped to literally 5 lines and still do the same thing06:00
Jester45i removed the { and now nothing is held in the center06:01
Jester45ok look at it again06:01
Jester45im not to good with css06:01
TheSheepit was an extra } not {, sorry06:01
Jester45so removed the } in front of body ?06:02
TheSheepJester45: there is a validator at http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/06:02
Jester45yea... i need to validate my little site and all of vidd's06:02
TheSheepthe syntax is simple:   selector { properties separated with ; }06:02
Jester45ok look again i removed the } and put in the { and now its white06:03
MeneerEgraa O_O06:03
MeneerEia32-sun-java6-bin isnt for i38606:04
MeneerEonly amd 6406:04
Jester45what ya need the -bin for06:05
MeneerEinstalling the sun java6 jre package06:06
Jester45hum... i didnt have to do that06:06
MeneerEperhaps i should try java5, then06:06
Jester45i wouldnt, i think 6 is much better06:07
MeneerEseems like i dont have much choice now, do i?06:07
frojndwhat's the graphic input name ?06:08
frojndlike kdm for kubuntu06:08
frojndwhat's for xubuntu?06:08
Jester45humm you know there are 2 packages that are -bin06:09
MeneerEyea06:09
frojndanyone?06:09
frojndu know.. how can I restatr by command line xubuntu06:09
Jester45MeneerE, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Fs%2Fsun-java6%2Fsun-java6-bin_6-00-2ubuntu2_i386.deb&md5sum=e814337135ae0039519d75daafb18562&arch=i386&type=main06:09
frojndsudo /etc/init.d/?? restart06:10
Jester45i386 -bin06:10
Jester45frojnd, its gdm06:10
frojndoh tnx06:10
MeneerEi already started downloading that06:10
frojndI've installed nvidia-glx driveres06:10
frojndhow can I enable it06:11
frojndby renameing kdb into "nv" ?06:11
Jester45frojnd, edit your /etc/xorg.conf06:11
frojndJester45: ok06:11
frojndJester45: I'm in it right now06:11
Jester45and find where it says what drivers your device is using and change that to the nvidia ones06:11
frojndJester45: for driveres it says: kbd06:12
frojndand I change it to "nvidia" ?06:12
Jester45yea i think so06:13
frojndarh :s06:13
frojnddoesn't work06:13
frojndalso when I typed in nvidia06:14
TheSheepJester45: http://sheep.art.pl/misc/jester.css06:14
frojndgdm just died06:14
MeneerEGNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA06:14
Jester45TheSheep, will that do the same as what i got?06:14
frojnd!vidia06:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vidia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:14
frojnd"nvidia06:14
MeneerEjre needs the java bin to be installed06:14
frojnd!nvidia06:14
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:14
TheSheepJester45: try it06:15
MeneerEthe java bin needs the jre to be installed06:15
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TheSheepfrojnd: congratulations, you just replaced the drivers for your keyboard with the drivers for your graphics card06:15
TheSheepfrojnd: put that kbd back and find the line that says 'driver "nv"'06:15
Jester45TheSheep, thanks06:15
TheSheepfrojnd: and replace *that* line with 'driver "nvidia"'06:15
Jester45TheSheep, i been working on that for a few days06:16
frojndLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL06:16
TheSheepJester45: also, you don't need that <div id="main"> in the html anymore, I used the <body> tag instead06:17
TheSheepJester45: I will gladly help you with any css06:17
Jester45TheSheep, do you like css?06:17
Jester45TheSheep, wanna help with php?06:18
TheSheepJester45: I don't like php06:18
Jester45:)06:18
Jester45neither do i06:18
Jester45php/mysql is really fun06:19
Jester45and what makes it worse is that i jumped into and i and dont really know how both of them work06:19
Jester45with html i at least know some of how it works06:19
MeneerEgrr06:20
Jester45and im a bit better at css06:20
Jester45but my favorite is bash :)06:20
TheSheepJester45: that's really bad position to be in06:20
Jester45totally diffrent06:20
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MeneerETheSheep06:21
Jester45TheSheep, would you like to help me with removing a package? it gives me a error code 106:21
MeneerEhow is this possible?06:21
MeneerE:/06:21
MeneerEjre and java.bin depend on each other to be installed06:21
TheSheepMeneerE: a loop in dependencies?06:21
Jester45!pastebin06:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:21
MeneerEso you can nevver install them06:21
MeneerE-v06:21
TheSheepMeneerE: are you sure you didn't mix the names?06:22
Jester45MagicFab, run sudo dpkg -i package.deb package.deb06:22
MeneerEnope06:22
Jester45TheSheep, they are looped06:22
Jester45i looked06:22
MeneerEjava 5 and java 606:22
MeneerEboth the same problem06:22
MeneerEany replacement?06:22
MeneerEor solution06:23
Jester45MeneerE, run sudo dpkg -i sun-java6-bin.deb dun-java6-jre.deb06:23
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MeneerEwhats that, Jester45?06:23
Merchelorun that command06:23
Mercheloto install everything you need06:23
Jester45its the backend of apt06:23
Jester45just replace the .deb with the real name and path06:24
Jester45TheSheep, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25741/06:25
Jester45what do you think of that?06:25
Jester45aptitude cant fix it also06:25
MeneerEer06:26
MeneerEi dont know the path06:26
MeneerEhow do you say where something is?06:26
MeneerE:|06:26
Jester45are you in the command line only ? or are you in a gui06:27
TheSheepJester45: looks like someone made a broken python package06:27
MeneerEgui06:27
Jester45TheSheep, do you know how to fix it?06:27
TheSheepMeneerE: right click on the empty space next to these deb files, and select 'open terminal here'06:27
MeneerEah06:27
MeneerE:D06:27
Jester45MeneerE, type "sudo dpkg -i " then you can drag and drop the files into the terminal06:27
Jester45TheSheep, so would i need to install somthing to remove this?06:28
TheSheepJester45: I think you might try to reinstall that package first06:28
TheSheepJester45: and see if it works06:29
Jester45i cant06:29
TheSheepJester45: you can go to '/var/dpkg/something...', find the uninstall script for that package and replace it with an empty file...06:29
Jester45well i have to go away for a bit06:30
TheSheepJester45: but that may leave some leftovers in your system06:30
Jester45i gotta call my work06:30
Jester45installing python didnt help06:31
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test3rhey - SMB isnt mounting my remote printer - do i have to do that manually?  "/usr/lib/cups/backend/smb failed"  is the message that the 'localhost' webpage config gives me06:33
TheSheeptest3r: um, isn't there a gui program for configuring that in the system menu?06:34
test3rwhen i point it to it with "smb://Workgroup/BoxName/PrinterName" cups says it sees it06:35
test3rbut I just now got this error msg to show up & my hunch was correct - it was the mount somehow06:36
test3rI have hard-wire-connected the printer & printed test page already.06:36
test3rprinting thru the air to a printer connected via-USB, janky-drivers-that-are-not-PPD, on a WIndows box is Hard.06:40
test3rHP's techs were of no help though. they just said "your printer does not support post script nor have a PPD"06:44
test3rbut there exists a linux special driver For it (thank goodnes)06:44
test3rwait - never mind i found something -06:48
test3rhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/3948406:48
ubotuLaunchpad bug 39484 in samba "cups smb printing backend no longer works" [High,Confirmed] 06:48
test3rlooked and looked . oh look at j00000! mr bot. all smart n stuff!06:49
test3ri guess i will have a reason to up to 7.1 after all? Comon PLEASE tell them fix that 7.1!06:49
test3rI used automatix tho on this install  =(  I will need one heck of a picky upgrade method06:50
TheSheep!automatix06:52
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe06:52
TheSheephmm...06:53
test3r!WorksForMe06:57
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.06:57
test3r!playing multimedia06:58
test3r!libxine06:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:58
test3r!codec06:59
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:59
MeneerEi still cant seem to install07:02
MeneerEboth files07:02
MeneerEthe looped ones :/07:02
test3rwhelps, i guess i just have to wait n see then if it upgrades smooth or not07:14
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Jester45MeneerE, have you tried moving the debs into apt's cache and just using apt to instal07:29
MeneerEi've given up today07:29
MeneerEworking on my windows machine now07:29
Jester45sorry to hear that07:30
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hyper_chhuhu07:33
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TheSheephyper_ch: aloha07:48
hyper_chTheSheep: master thesis handed in07:48
hyper_chTheSheep: now it's praying time ;)07:48
TheSheephyper_ch: congrats07:48
TheSheephyper_ch: you don't have to 'defend' it now?07:49
hyper_chTheSheep: nah07:49
hyper_chTheSheep: only your doctoral thesis07:49
TheSheepunfair07:49
hyper_chTheSheep: but after my master thesis I know, I'll never write a doctoral one :)07:49
TheSheephyper_ch: hehe, thought the same after mine07:49
hyper_chyou're a doctor? ^^07:49
TheSheephyper_ch: now I'm slowly starting to collect material for the phd...07:49
hyper_chMr. Doctor, Sir... I went swimming yesterday and know I ahve a lot of muscle ache.. what can I do for it to stop07:50
TheSheephyper_ch: master only07:50
hyper_chTheSheep: Dr. TheSheep07:51
hyper_chnew skype version07:52
TheSheepbleh07:53
TheSheepDr A. Culla, hematologist07:53
hyper_chwhat's a hematologist?07:53
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radioaktivstormanyone know how to stop epiphany from opening new windows? i want to override that and make everything open in tabs07:59
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hyper_chif the target is set as _blank I think the it opens a new window... I see the same in firefox08:02
radioaktivstormhyper_ch, but isnt there a setting that lets you override that in firefox?08:02
hyper_chthat doesn't work too well :)08:02
radioaktivstormlol08:03
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radioaktivstormhmm08:11
radioaktivstormmaybe i should just use firefox08:11
radioaktivstormi like epiphany though08:11
radioaktivstormo well08:11
gnomefreakradioaktivstorm: epiphany should have tab support look in the preffernces08:16
gnomefreakatleast on feisty08:16
radioaktivstormgnomefreak, im not seeing it in the preferences08:18
radioaktivstormi mean, i can open tabs08:19
radioaktivstormbut as hyper_ch said before the _blank open in new windows08:19
gnomefreakah ok08:21
radioaktivstormnot really sure how to fix it :/ or if it can be fixed08:22
TheSheepradioaktivstorm: try searching in about:config08:23
TheSheepradioaktivstorm: it's like windows registry -- everything is in there08:23
radioaktivstormcool thanks, do you know what kind of thing i would be looking for?08:23
radioaktivstormi was browsing through firefox about:config08:24
radioaktivstormbut i wasnt sure what made it open new windows in tabs08:24
radioaktivstormdoes anyone know what the epiphany folder is? i dont see one in /home08:31
TheSheepradioaktivstorm: epiphany uses gconf to store its configuration, like every real GNOME application should08:32
TheSheepradioaktivstorm: you can install the gconf-editor to get into it08:33
TheSheepradioaktivstorm: it's even more like windows registry :D08:33
radioaktivstormthanks lol :P08:33
hyper_chhow can I install windows media player 10? ^^08:35
TheSheephyper_ch: start by repetedely stabbing your knee08:35
hyper_ch;)08:35
hyper_ch*watching now some BG*08:37
radioaktivstormoo...gettin late gotta part! thanks for all the helps08:37
hyper_chBSG08:37
TehRealNexGen?08:37
hyper_chbattlestar galactica ;)08:38
radioaktivstorm\o/08:38
radioaktivstormBATTLESTAR GALACTICA!!08:38
hyper_chseason 308:38
radioaktivstormnice08:39
TehRealNexGen:-[08:41
hyper_chTehRealNexGen: whats wrong?08:42
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crabgrasswhere is screen resolution information stored for xfce?08:58
crabgrassi mean, not X.org08:58
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kalikiana_crabgrass, I don't think XFCE uses anything but Xorg's resolution, so nothing to store.09:01
crabgrassseems like it has it's own list, considering i added 1920x1200 in xorg.conf myself, and the highest xfce>settings>display shows is 1600x120009:04
kalikiana_crabgrass, XFCE often replaces the highest resolution with 'Default'. Is that the case with you?09:06
crabgrasskalikiana_: apparently not, since every time it boots, it goes to 1600x1200, and i have to use nvidia-settings to change it09:12
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kalikiana_crabgrass, That's actually strange. I am no expert in that area, you might ask in #xfce for help as well.09:18
crabgrasskalikiana_: will do, thanks for the help09:19
kalikiana_:)09:19
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K3rl0u4rnhi !09:33
K3rl0u4rnI have installed a fresh xubuntu (feisty) and have problem with gxine09:34
Maximilian1stK3rl0u4rn, So did I and that is why I turned to vlc09:34
K3rl0u4rnwhatever file I open, it tries to read CD-Rom and tells me no CD is in09:34
K3rl0u4rnMaximilian1st: should I ? is there a way I can use win32codecs with VLC ?09:35
Maximilian1stK3rl0u4rn, I'm not sure if this is related, probably..09:35
K3rl0u4rnIt is not but this is the reason why I don't always use VLC09:36
K3rl0u4rnI used to use mplayer, but since xubuntu comes with gxine, I thaught it may be a good software09:36
predaeusK3rl0u4rn, get mplayer too. there is often files that would not play with one or the other but another one would do.09:39
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bangcocki'm having probs getting an older version of sun java working on xubuntu... fesity fawn... trying to get jre1.3.1_06 installed09:58
bangcocki run the shell script to create the jre1.3.1_06 folder... i move it to /opt/jre1.3 & create links in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins & firefox plugins... still no go tho09:59
predaeusbangcock, what java version does about:plugins in firefox list?10:00
bangcocki have to admit i don't use ubuntu at all but xubuntu was the way to go for this older laptop... not sure mebe xubuntu has a bit of a diff file structure than fedora?10:00
bangcocki created the same link for both the firefox & mozilla plugin folders10:01
bangcocki need this older version of java for work... they might make me use winblowz if i can't get this one cooking... yak10:02
bangcockya know i never did even try installing latest/greatest ver of java wonder if that would be a good idea 2 try10:05
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predaeusbangcock, just install java from the repositories10:06
bangcockumm will i b able 2 sudo apt-get jre1.3* ?10:07
bangcockit's like an ancient version yeah?10:07
predaeusno idea. try to search it with synaptic or add/remove10:07
predaeusor just get a new version, what do you need the old for anyway?10:08
predaeusapart from compatibility testing10:08
bangcock4 work :)10:08
predaeusas far as I know java is totally downwards compatible. so get a new version.10:08
bangcockfor some dumb reason java isn't backwards compatible10:08
predaeushm weird10:09
bangcocknope10:09
bangcockthats what i thought... tried connecting to an i/f at work that expects jre1.3* with the latest jre1.6* & it hangs up on security checks10:09
predaeus1.4 firefox plugin is in repos10:09
predaeusfor performance and security reasons they should update their implementation10:10
bangcocklol tell me about it... i have complained about that since i found out i need a box running jre1.310:11
predaeus:-D10:11
bangcockbut big company = slow to conform/upgrade10:11
predaeushm, try if it works with 1.410:11
predaeusthe plugin is in repos10:11
predaeusrun add/remove, type in java and select10:11
bangcockjre1.4 yeah? mebe try that also10:11
predaeusblackdown java j2re1.4 is in repos10:12
bangcockkk will try that... thanx not on xubuntu atm 2 check :) cheers10:13
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predaeusno problem, you are welcome, I know the hassles of installing java and linking things around :-D10:14
predaeusdoh, too late10:14
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RememberPOLIs there a way to launch mousepad from xfterm4 and have it _NOT_ exit if I quit xfterm4? (mousepad & doesn't work)11:03
TheSheepRememberPOL: no11:04
RememberPOLfor shame11:04
TheSheepRememberPOL: unix has a precess *tree*11:04
TheSheepRememberPOL: if you cut a branch you're sitting on...11:04
RememberPOLwell is there a way to have mousepad run off a lower branch from xterm4?11:05
RememberPOL^^11:05
TheSheepRememberPOL: dbus maybe...11:05
RememberPOLah11:05
TheSheepRememberPOL: I think you could try exo-open11:05
RememberPOLk11:06
TheSheepbut I think it would be a cool idea to have the defult text editor registered as a dbus service11:07
RememberPOLwell that's just an example (mousepad)11:09
RememberPOLthe actually process i'm wanting to run like this is moin.py11:09
RememberPOLI mean I could probably put it in /etc/rc.local to have it launch at startup permanently...11:10
RememberPOLbut say I want to stop and restart the process but have it run in the background so I don't see it and I can close my x terminals and such...11:10
RememberPOLI guess I could use a (CTRL+ALT+F[1-6] ) virtual terminal11:11
RememberPOLBut say I want to launch it as a pertinent background process from an X display using a distribution-independent method (leaving out dbus)11:12
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RememberPOL*shrug*11:12
RememberPOLvirtual terms will be good enough i suppose11:12
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TheSheepRememberPOL: write a script for th init.d11:19
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m0u5eCan anyone help me? I followed the instructions for getting a microsoft intellimouse to work (imwheel) and now my scroll up and down doesnt work11:34
m0u5ealso the option in "mice" under ubuntu system>preferences no longer has the option of making my middle mouse button able to auto scroll11:35
m0u5eoh crap... wrong channel sorry guys :X11:35
RememberPOLdid you manually edit xorg.conf?11:38
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