[12:27] <cheeseboy> whats a good linux antivirus
[12:28] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: the only antivirus programs for linux I know are for scanning e-mails for windows viruses
[12:29] <cheeseboy> i have somesort of virus ..
[12:29] <cheeseboy> on that pc
[12:29] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: what program do you use to connect to IRC?
[12:29] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: on that pc
[12:31] <cheeseboy> xchat
[12:31] <cheeseboy> but i also have an eggdrop
[12:31] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: 5 seconds of googling reaveal this:
[12:31] <TheSheep> http://forums.planethzl.com/index.php?s=0668b1c2903fa79409af5fc416082fb8&showtopic=4212&pid=75251&st=0&#entry75251
[12:31] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: hope that helps
[12:32] <cheeseboy> i look at that
[12:32] <cheeseboy> but thats windows app
[12:33] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: that's because fixxerbot is a windows virus
[12:33] <cheeseboy> but im on linux
[12:33] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: for some reason the server you're trying to connect thinks you're using a windows machine that's infected
[12:33] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: I'd contact the server support team and try to work it out with them
[12:34] <cheeseboy> i have
[12:34] <cheeseboy> they have no idea
[12:35] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: http://secure.irc-chat.net/info.php?viri=FizzerBot
[12:42] <cheeseboy> whats command to empty trash?
[12:44] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: I don't think there is one, I guess you could try  'rm -r .local/share/Trash/*'
[12:55] <Naughtyboy> guys...a little quadcore question.....I got a quad coming my way along with more ram and new mobo....will I be OK with the "generic" kernel the comes with x/k/ubuntu or do I have to recompile the kernel to support all cores..?
[01:00] <ruks> i installed beryl on feisty fawn earlier and lost screen,so i did the sudo dpkg-recofigure xserver-xorg command and reconfigured
[01:00] <ruks> but now when i go to terminal its just a blank white screen,
[01:01] <TheSheep> !beryl | ruks
[01:01] <ubotu> ruks: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:01] <Pumpernickel> Naughtyboy: That's fine - quad core / quad cpu is definitely supported.
[01:02] <ruks> and i installed ndiswrapper yesterday and changed my reposatories for bcm43xx-fwcutter to get my wireless working,and i have to type in sudo modprobe bcm43xx everytime i wanna conect,is there a way to fix this?
[01:02] <TheSheep> ruks: yes, add it to your /etc/modules
[01:02] <TheSheep> ruks: the word 'bcm43xx' that is
[01:03] <ruks> i cant get in my terminal :(
[01:03] <TheSheep> ruks: alt+f2 and type 'gksu mousepad /etc/modules'
[01:05] <Naughtyboy> Pumpernickel, : OK...thnx for the quick reply
[01:06] <ruks> ok sheep did that and nothing happened
[01:08] <TheSheep> ruks: define "nothing"
[01:09] <ruks> it asked for my password,entered it,and then nothing,terminal still is blank white screen with no heading
[01:10] <vidd_bricktop> ruks what are you trying to do?
[01:10] <TheSheep> ruks: alt+f2 and type 'xfwm4'
[01:12] <ruks> could not open,file not found
[01:12] <vidd_bricktop> TheSheep, what y'all trying to do/
[01:12] <TheSheep> ruks: you're running xubuntu?
[01:12] <ruks> yea
[01:12] <ruks> feisty fawn
[01:12] <ruks> wait whats that x for?
[01:13] <vidd_bricktop> ruks, in a terminal..... type sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:13] <ruks> im kinda new to all this
[01:14] <vidd_bricktop> xubuntu is XFCE version of ubuntu....as in not gnome desktop
[01:14] <ruks> my terminal is blank since i installed beryl and lost screen and reconfigured it,
[01:14] <ruks> i believe my desktop is gnome
[01:14] <vidd_bricktop> then in <alt><f2> type gdm
[01:15] <ruks> ok typed it
[01:15] <ruks> and nothing happened
[01:15] <vidd_bricktop> hrm
[01:15] <ruks> do u want me to tell u what i did?
[01:15] <vidd_bricktop> sure
[01:17] <ruks> i installed beryl nvidia on here and when i rebooted blue screen came up about the xserver,so i found a thread where someone had the same problem and he used the sudo dpkg-recofigure xserver-xorg command,so i did that and went thru it,got my desktop back but when i go to terminal its a blank white screen with no heading,and some of the beryl stuff isnt working either,im just kinda new to linux and im lost,i wanna make sure im doing ev
[01:18] <ruks> lol
[01:18] <vidd_bricktop> do you have the beryl icon in your lower right corner?
[01:19] <ruks> its in upper left with everything else
[01:19] <ruks> and on desktop
[01:19] <vidd_bricktop> ok....] 
[01:20] <vidd_bricktop> then click on it and tell me what options you have
[01:21] <ruks> general options,window management,desktop,visual effects,access,extras,development,image formal are the options at the top
[01:21] <ruks> each one has their own set of stuff
[01:22] <vidd_bricktop> either window management or desktop will let you turn beryl off and use your gnome, or xfce or whatever (not beryl) window manager
[01:23] <vidd_bricktop> we want you to turn beryl off for now
[01:25] <ruks> ok i selected gnome as my window manager
[01:25] <ruks> beryl is off
[01:25] <ruks> terminal is back,so whats up with beryl
[01:25] <vidd_bricktop> terminal working for ya now?
[01:26] <ruks> yea
[01:26] <vidd_bricktop> yer beryl install is toast
[01:26] <ruks> ahhh crap,so what do i do
[01:26] <ruks> i reconfigured my whole x server too cuz of it,i hope i didnt mess anything up
[01:27] <ruks> maaaaan
[01:27] <ruks> so what can i do
[01:28] <ruks> lol
[01:28] <vidd_bricktop> the eye candy was not worth the agrevation...to me
[01:28] <vidd_bricktop> ruks, i can not help you do something i can not do myself....
[01:28] <vidd_bricktop> i was able to recover like i showed you....
[01:29] <ruks> ahhh got ya
[01:29] <vidd_bricktop> then i formated and reinstalled cuzz fiesty came out...and neber tried beryl again
[01:29] <ruks> so is there no way i can recover back to the way it was setup before the beryl install??
[01:30] <ruks> i just gotta find it huh
[01:30] <vidd_bricktop> but when I mess up REAL bad, i just reinstall fresh
[01:30] <vidd_bricktop> =] 
[01:31] <vidd_bricktop> =] 
[01:31] <ruks> ahhhh man i dont wanna do that :(
[01:33] <vidd_bricktop>  --purge removes the configuration files
[01:33] <ruks> yea but maybe if i just update my reposatories for beryl?
[01:33] <vidd_bricktop> ....
[01:33] <vidd_bricktop> you can do that
[01:34] <vidd_bricktop> im sure if you surf a little, you can find a beryl howto for your card
[01:34] <ruks> ok so if u were going to use the purge command,give me an example line
[01:35] <vidd_bricktop> sudo apt-get --purge beryl
[01:35] <vidd_bricktop> sudo apt-get --purge remove beryl
[01:35] <ruks> its unpacking and removing it
[01:36] <vidd_bricktop> good
[01:36] <ruks> i hope nothing else crashes lol
[01:36] <vidd_bricktop> if it does, i can help you thru it
[01:36] <ruks> i love linux so far because of the control and how smooth it is,but learning to control it and set it up is killing me lol
[01:37] <ruks> after it said removing beryl,went back to root command
[01:37] <vidd_bricktop> lol ... where do you think you GET that control;????
[01:37] <vidd_bricktop> there....done
[01:37] <ruks> does that mean it removed it?
[01:37] <ruks> cuz its still in toolbar and desktop,and it never said done
[01:37] <vidd_bricktop> now do sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:38] <vidd_bricktop> then reboot
[01:38] <ruks> ok    0 upgraded 0 installed- 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded
[01:38] <ruks> reboot or log out?
[01:38] <vidd_bricktop> reboot
[01:40] <vidd_bricktop> which card?
[01:40] <ruks> nvidia geforce4 440 go 64m
[01:42] <vidd_bricktop> this looks promising: http://feistyguide.blogspot.com/2007/05/how-to-install-beryl-nvidia.html
[01:42] <ruks> ok rebooted and beryl is still in taskbar and on desktop
[01:43] <vidd_bricktop> it includes such steps as "back your stuff up"....always the sign of a well written howto
[01:44] <ruks> hmm i should get rid of this install before i try a new one
[01:45] <ruks> i did all that and its still on here
[01:45] <vidd_bricktop> * wave * maxamillion
[01:45] <maxamillion> hi hi
[01:45] <vidd_bricktop> hey maxamillion .... did you ever install beryl on an nvidia card?
[01:46] <maxamillion> vidd_bricktop: sure did
[01:46] <ruks> ahhh it wont go away im stuck with it
[01:46] <vidd_bricktop> maxamillion, good ... ruks is having issues
[01:46] <maxamillion> vidd_bricktop: but i used aiglx because the nvidia 9xxx series drivers weren't out yet
[01:47] <vidd_bricktop> i helped him get his ubuntu desktop back in working order....and he wants to try again
[01:48] <vidd_bricktop> feel like giving him a hand?
[01:48] <maxamillion> vidd_bricktop: ok, let me get the tutorial i used ... i did it over ssh from home to set up beryl on my work machine
[01:48] <ruks> yea i wanna try what u just sent me but i gotta get this one off first
[01:48] <ruks> heeey that would be great
[01:49] <ruks> and if u could tell me how to get rid of this one i installed
[01:49] <vidd_bricktop> ruks, chances are it will just re-install that anyway
[01:49] <barbara> how can I set proper permissions on my new icon in /usr/share/pixmaps ?
[01:50] <vidd_bricktop> barbara, what kind of permissions you want to give it?
[01:50] <maxamillion> it appears that the guide i followed doesn't exist anymore
[01:50] <ruks> ahhh got ya,ok we will see
[01:50] <Jester45>  hey vidd_bricktop im back
[01:50] <barbara> vidd_bricktop: same permissions as all the pink colored files that are the majority for that directory
[01:51] <godless> http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/129
[01:51] <vidd_bricktop> barbara, that is not very useful..... open a terminal, and typ cd /path/to/files
[01:51] <vidd_bricktop> then do ls -la
[01:52] <ruks> one more question before i go thru with this before i forget,i installed ndiswrapper and all that for my wireless,but everytime i wanna conect wireless i have to type sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[01:52] <vidd_bricktop> this will list all the files with thier permissions....
[01:52] <vidd_bricktop> they should look like :
[01:52] <ruks> is there a way to keep this in there so i dont have to keep typing it?
[01:53] <vidd_bricktop> -rw-r--r--  1 vidd vidd  566 2007-06-13 17:49 .profile
[01:53] <barbara> ok that worked I kept thinking it was ls -a
[01:53] <barbara> thanks vidd
[01:53] <vidd_bricktop> the -rw-r--r-- is what i need to know what you need it to be
[01:55] <vidd_bricktop> ruks, i cant help you with ndiswrapper, but i can with the native driver.....
[01:56] <maxamill1on> bah!!!!!!
[01:57] <barbara> vidd_bricktop: I did chown root then chmod -x to the file and at -rw------- so far
[01:57] <maxamill1on> vidd_bricktop: can you see what i am reading or have i lagged out again?
[01:57] <vidd_bricktop> ruks, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[01:58] <vidd_bricktop> maxamill1on, i see ya
[01:58] <vidd_bricktop> barbara, what is the permissions of the OTHER files?
[01:58] <barbara> vidd_bricktop: the second user listing still doesn't say root though
[01:58] <barbara> vidd_bricktop: -rw-r--r--   1 root    root
[01:59] <maxamill1on> ruks: did you see the link i sent you or did i lag out before?
[01:59] <vidd_bricktop> barbara, sudo chmod 655 i think
[02:00] <vidd_bricktop> maxamill1on, you lagged out
[02:01] <vidd_bricktop> post the link again
[02:02] <barbara> vidd_bricktop: that gives -rw-r-xr-x   1 root    user
[02:03] <godless> sorry about that TED link
[02:03] <godless> wrong channel "
[02:03] <godless> :/
[02:04] <barbara> from this users perspective though its -rw--------- 1 root user
[02:04] <barbara> darn file permissions ate my perfectly gimped out new icon :(
[02:05] <ruks> how do i add something to /etc/modules?
[02:05] <ruks> i dont know how to open that directory
[02:05] <ruks> or any directory for that matter
[02:05] <barbara> is there a way to just give it permissions same as another file?
[02:06] <vidd_bricktop> barbara, then its 644
[02:07] <barbara> why doesn't it just say 644 then?
[02:07] <maxamill1on> ruks: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Support_for_nVidia_cards
[02:09] <vidd_bricktop> barbara, if chmod 655 gave you rw-r-xr-x, then 644 will give you rw-r--r--
[02:10] <ruks> maxamillion thats the first install i did
[02:10] <ruks> and had problems with
[02:10] <ruks> how can i just uninstall the whole thing?
[02:10] <maxamill1on> ruks: ah .. hmmm
[02:11] <maxamill1on> ruks: "sudo apt-get purge beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes"
[02:12] <maxamill1on> ruks: "sudo rm /usr/share/applications/berul-manager.desktop"
[02:13] <maxamill1on> ruks: "sudo rm /etc/xdg/autostart/beryl-manager.desktop"
[02:13] <maxamill1on> ruks: "rm ~/Desktop/beryl-manager.desktop"
[02:13] <maxamill1on> ruks: enter each one of those commands in the terminal and life should be good from there
[02:15] <vidd_bricktop> *wave* somerville32
[02:15] <somerville32> :)
[02:16] <vidd_bricktop> been a while
[02:17] <ruks> the first one didnt work
[02:17] <ruks> second one i mean
[02:17] <maxamill1on> ruks: didn't work?
[02:17] <Pumpernickel> s/berul/beryl/
[02:17] <maxamill1on> ruks: oh, that file might have been removed as part of the first
[02:18] <ruks> ok desktop icon is gone
[02:18] <ruks> still in taskbar
[02:18] <maxamill1on> ruks: we will take care of that in a moment
[02:19] <ruks> ahh did sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:19] <ruks> lemme reboot
[02:20] <maxamill1on> k
[02:23] <ruks> its gone
[02:23] <ruks> sweeet
[02:23] <ruks> ok so i got another question
[02:24] <ruks> when i changed my reposatories and installed ndiswrapper etc,the bcm43xx-fwcutter,in order to fire my wireless up i have to type in sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[02:24] <ruks> someone told me i could just add
[02:24] <ruks> bcm43xx
[02:24] <ruks> to
[02:24] <ruks> etc/modules
[02:25] <ruks> how do i do that
[02:25] <ruks> or /etc/modules
[02:25] <Pumpernickel> You open the file /etc/modules as root, and on a new line you type 'bcm43xx'.
[02:25] <Pumpernickel> Then you save it.
[02:26] <ruks> ok but i dont know how to open it as a root
[02:26] <ruks> im new :(
[02:26] <Pumpernickel> (No ''s, of course.  Just the module name.)
[02:26] <Pumpernickel> In a terminal, do `sudo nano /etc/modules`.
[02:27] <ruks> ok opened it and added bcm43xx
[02:28] <ruks> how do i save it
[02:28] <Pumpernickel> It shows common shortcuts on the bottom.
[02:28] <maxamill1on> sheep: ?
[02:29] <ruks> ^x to exit,how do i do that
[02:30] <TheSheep> ruks: press and hold down the 'Ctrl' key and press 'x', the release both keys
[02:30] <Pumpernickel> You press control - which is usually abbreviated as ^ - and, while holding it down, press 'x'.
[02:30] <ruks> ahhh
[02:30] <ruks> man how did u learn all this stuff
[02:30] <ruks> so nano does what
[02:30] <ruks> navigates?
[02:30] <TheSheep> ruks: same way as you
[02:30] <ruks> yea true,i am learning alot hehe
[02:30] <Pumpernickel> Nano is a text editor.
[02:34] <ruks> sweet
[02:34] <ruks> so should i just give up on having beryl?
[02:34] <vidd> ruks, that is up to you
[02:34] <maxamill1on> ruks: probably for now ... unless you really feel like getting your hands dirty
[02:34] <maxamill1on> ruks: my recommendation is to let them work out some more bugs (it is still alpha software)
[02:35] <briancron> give up!!!  Did we give up when the germans bombed pearl harbor?
[02:35] <TheSheep> Germans???
[02:35] <maxamill1on> briancron: the germans bombed pearl harbor?
[02:35] <maxamill1on> briancron: when on earth did that happen?
[02:35] <TheSheep> wow, that means ww3
[02:35] <briancron> am I the only one who has seen Animal House?
[02:35] <maxamill1on> briancron: apparently
[02:35] <TheSheep> briancron: yes
[02:35] <Pumpernickel> briancron: yup
[02:36] <ruks> lol
[02:36] <briancron> joke withdrawn with apologies
[02:36] <vidd_bricktop> it wasnt funny then either
[02:36] <ruks> ok so u guys helped me fix everything i was having trouble with
[02:36] <ruks> so far
[02:36] <ruks> lol
[02:37] <ruks> i just wish i could have beryl,or something like it
[02:37] <maxamill1on> ruks: we try
[02:37] <ruks> nobody on here has it installed with feisty?
[02:37] <briancron> well I bombed in #xubuntu no denying that
[02:37] <briancron> I have beryl with fiesty and it works fine
[02:37] <ruks> really
[02:37] <ruks> driver?
[02:37] <maxamill1on> ruks: i isntalled it on edgy, i deleted it 2 weeks .. it annoyed me
[02:38] <briancron> driver for what?
[02:38] <briancron> have you looked in synaptic?
[02:38] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: having preview of the window contents in the pager would be nice though...
[02:38] <maxamill1on> briancron: are you using aiglx, xgl, or nvidia driver support?
[02:38] <vidd> imo it adds NOTHING but bragging rights
[02:38] <briancron> nvidia
[02:38] <ruks> dang thats what i got
[02:38] <maxamill1on> TheSheep: yeah ... that feature wasn't there when i tried it
[02:38] <ruks> i installed beryl and had trouble with a few things
[02:39] <briancron> vidd, I disagree... I got tired of spinning the cube but it's really a functional addon
[02:39] <maxamill1on> TheSheep: only thing i liked was the OS X expose' copy cat plugin
[02:39] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: you can have it without beryl, with skippy
[02:39] <vidd> briancron, what functionality?
[02:39] <ruks> people do it cuz it looks so damn sweet but i actually do alot with multimedia and switching thru desktops like that and everything
[02:39] <maxamill1on> TheSheep: ohhh yes, skippy ... i should look into that
[02:39] <maxamill1on> !info skippy
[02:39] <ubotu> skippy: full-screen X11 task/window switcher, similar to OSX Expose. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1rc1-6 (feisty), package size 28 kB, installed size 148 kB
[02:39] <briancron> sticky screens, scroll windows... snap windows into one view
[02:39] <vidd> i get the same functionality with freecell...and nowhere near the resource drain
[02:39] <maxamill1on> w00t
[02:40] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: and 3ddesktop :)
[02:40] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: better install the -nx version
[02:40] <briancron> mouse scroll transpartency... meta M turns the screen colors better for nighttime reading
[02:40] <ruks> ok so what is the best thing i can get
[02:40] <maxamill1on> TheSheep: yeah ... i could do that
[02:40] <ruks> and briancron u have had no problems?
[02:41] <briancron> well Im not really worried about the resources so it wasn't an issue
[02:41] <briancron> no problems ruks
[02:41] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: sorry, it's -xd
[02:41] <maxamill1on> TheSheep: 3d desktop is nice, but the wobbly windows and such is annoying
[02:41] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: http://skippy.klik.atekon.de/
[02:41] <TheSheep> !3ddesktop
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3ddesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <TheSheep> !info 3ddesktop
[02:41] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-6 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 432 kB
[02:41] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: no need for beryl
[02:41] <briancron> Im used to the wobbly windows but I agree that the magic of beryl wears off... however many cool usability features are hard to live without
[02:42] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: and it actually has much more options
[02:42] <ruks> so briancron how did u install?
[02:42] <maxamill1on> TheSheep: nope, beryl is just a pain
[02:42] <vidd> briancron, you listed a bunch of "nice to have" features....
[02:42] <briancron> vidd: yeah of course, nothing critical
[02:42] <TheSheep> briancron: I tried to use both beryl and compiz, but I couldn't live with their stupid algorithms for window placing
[02:42] <maxamill1on> briancron: usability!?!!? ... there are maybe 2 things i find usable about beryl
[02:42] <briancron> ruks for fiesty I went to synaptic to install it
[02:42] <maxamill1on> TheSheep: what's your opinion of openbox as a window manager?
[02:42] <TheSheep> briancron: and lack of focus stealing prevention on top of that
[02:43] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: never used it
[02:43] <ruks> ok max so what should i use instead of beryl to get some of the same features?
[02:43] <vidd> ruks, they are talking about 3ddesktop
[02:43] <briancron> mouse over the minized icons for a preview... Im not suffering from Vista envy... I started with slackware and Im learning emacs... but beryl is useful as well as eyecandy
[02:43] <maxamill1on> TheSheep: ah ... ok, i just recently heard about a guy who uses xfce with openbox as the window manager so i started reading about it .... it seems really nice for just a window manager, i might end up trying it out
[02:43] <vidd> !info 3ddesktop | ruks
[02:43] <ubotu> ruks: 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-6 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 432 kB
[02:43] <briancron> or Mac envy either...
[02:44] <briancron> I meant minimized
[02:44] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: ever seen pkwm?
[02:44] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: it's a bit nicer looking
[02:44] <maxamill1on> TheSheep: is that the window manager written in perl?
[02:44] <vidd> briancron, im running a vanilla xfce with only one task bar....no M$ envy here either
[02:44] <briancron> ruks if synaptic will install beryl use it and then turn off anything you find annoying
[02:45] <vidd> briancron, we just spend the last...what....2 hours helping him RECOVER from thsat
[02:45] <briancron> vidd: no accusing you but I know there is a stigma about beryl... but it's more than just bling imo
[02:45] <briancron> oh... sorry I don't mean to confuse ruks
[02:46] <ruks> hey my mousepad on my laptop on linux if i tap the pad not button it clicks,didnt do that in windows,can i change it cuz i keep clicking on links i dont wanna
[02:46] <maxamill1on> ruks: touchpad mouse?
[02:46] <ruks> yea im just gonna stay away from beryl i guess,tried 2 installs and it didnt work right either time for some reason
[02:47] <vidd> ruks, there is a setting that reduces the sensitivity of it....
[02:47] <ruks> yea ya know,its a touchpad mouse lol
[02:47] <ruks> on my laptop
[02:47] <vidd> and there is another item to turn it off altogether
[02:47] <ruks> windows never let me click with the pad i had to use the button
[02:47] <ruks> linux im scrolling and click on stuff by accident cuz of this function,i wana turn it off
[02:48] <vidd> ruks, sorry to hear that M$ prevented you from using one of the STANDARD features of a touchpad mouse
[02:48] <TheSheep> macs have this nice feature -- if you use two fingers on the touchpad, it works as a scrollwheel
[02:48] <maxamill1on> ruks: there should be a setting somewhere ... i'm not entirely sure where though
[02:48] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: it the xorg.conf
[02:48] <maxamill1on> TheSheep: yeah, and there is linux support for that macbook touchpad as well :)
[02:48] <maxamill1on> my X might frag out ... if so, i'll brb
[02:49] <ruks> not that xorg thing man,i had problems with that earlier lol
[02:49] <vidd> ruks, xorg is your friend
[02:49] <ruks> is there no way to just go in and adjust the mouse settings,well i see one in preferences
[02:49] <ruks> how do i change mouse settings in xorg
[02:49] <vidd> just dont use the reconfigure tool
[02:50] <ruks> oh heck
[02:50] <ruks> my mouse buttons are all wrong since i did that reconfigure thing earlier when i got that blue screen
[02:51] <ruks> buttons are backwards and pad is wrong
[02:51] <TheSheep> ruks: man mousedrv
[02:51] <TheSheep> ruks: or http://www.x.org/current/mouse.html
[02:52] <ruks> man mousedrv
[02:52] <ruks> ok
[02:52] <barbara> anyone know how to get rid of those transparent bubbles around icon text?
[02:53] <maxamill1on> TheSheep: openbox is nice ... not as configurable as xfwm4, but it seems pretty nice for being minimalistic
[02:54] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: but it's ugly :(
[02:54] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: at least most themes
[02:54] <barbara> maxamill1on: configurable? hah far from it, these damn bubbles won't pop on my icons no matter how hard I click
[02:54] <maxamill1on> think so?
[02:54] <TheSheep> barbara: I think I've seen it somewherei n the xfce faq
[02:54] <maxamill1on> TheSheep: i thought it looked pretty decent
[02:55] <maxamill1on> barbara: huh?
[02:55] <maxamill1on> barbara: what are you talking about?
[02:56] <ruks> i did man mousedrv and it gave me a bunch of info but how do i change stuff
[02:56] <barbara> maxamill1on: look at an icon on your desktop read what it says now look at what your eyes not think
[02:57] <barbara> maxamillion: yes that visual noise known as transparency ick
[02:57] <TheSheep> ruks: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf as root
[02:58] <maxamill1on> barbara: i don't have icons on my desktop
[02:58] <barbara> http://forum.xfce.org/index.php?topic=3446.0
[02:59] <maxamill1on> barbara: let me enable then really fast
[02:59] <vidd> ruks, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:59] <maxamill1on> vidd: gedit?!?!!?
[02:59] <barbara> http://forum.xfce.org/index.php?topic=3430.0
[02:59] <ruks> i like it
[02:59] <vidd> maxamill1on, he is using gnomer
[02:59] <TheSheep> mousepad
[02:59] <barbara> oh and third problem with desktop icons that darn truncating of names
[02:59] <maxamill1on> ruks: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:59] <TheSheep> barbara: just disable the desktop icons :)
[03:00] <maxamill1on> ruks: use gksudo when using gui programs
[03:00] <barbara> if I wanted to do that I would use fluxbox
[03:00] <TheSheep> barbara: you can use fluxbox with xfdesktop
[03:00] <TheSheep> (or rox)
[03:00] <maxamill1on> barbara: if you want desktop icons you might want to look into ROX Filer ... best desktop icon support on the planet
[03:00] <barbara> I just want icons with no features what so ever, how hard is that
[03:00] <ruks> ok im in the gedit xorg.conf /etc/X11
[03:01] <TheSheep> barbara: you are sure you don't want panel launchers?
[03:01] <TheSheep> barbara: it turns out to be hard, because xfce doesn't have much unnecessary options -- just sane defaults
[03:01] <vidd> TheSheep, i think barbara wants desktop launchers....like windows desktop shortcuts
[03:01] <barbara> I don't want truncating names, transparent bubbles, huge spacing, and maybe turn off some default ones...
[03:01] <maxamill1on> barbara: http://cgi.4chan.org/r/src/1181866339729.jpg
[03:01] <maxamill1on> bah!!!!
[03:01] <maxamill1on> barbara: http://rox.sourceforge.net/desktop/static.html
[03:02] <maxamill1on> barbara: wrong link ... sorry
[03:02] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: 4chan :)
[03:02] <maxamill1on> TheSheep: :D
[03:02] <vidd> maxamill1on, this brings a new light on you!
[03:03] <barbara> I'm just going to go to xfce and start posting up suggestions to all the other unanswered problems about icons on xfce desktop
[03:03] <vidd> maxamill1on, its like i almost never knew ya!   lol
[03:04] <maxamill1on> vidd: lol, it was actually a link that was sent to me ... i'm not entirely familiar with the site
[03:04] <vidd> SURRRREEEEEE
[03:04] <TheSheep> barbara: better use their bug tracker to post feature requests
[03:04] <TheSheep> barbara: but don't hold your breath
[03:05] <barbara> feature!?
[03:05] <barbara> why is a feature not having features?
[03:05] <TheSheep> barbara: configarability of certain aspects of the desktop is a feature
[03:05] <somerville32> Are you people planning a Rubuntu? :P
[03:05] <barbara> I mean I'm sure its more minimalist and less on code to remove a few things
[03:05] <vidd> barbara, you want to be able to set icons with an optional configuration....that is a featuree
[03:05] <TheSheep> barbara: then remove it, the sources are freely available
[03:06] <barbara> I could configure a different color for the bubble around icon text yes but I don't I want to remove it
[03:06] <TheSheep> barbara: I'm almost sure you can remove the bubble with a gtk theme
[03:06] <barbara> alright
[03:06] <barbara> would any of you be interested in using icons if I did?
[03:06] <TheSheep> barbara: it's mentioned somewhere in the xfce forums or wiki
[03:06] <ruks> how do i change the mouse settings?
[03:07] <TheSheep> barbara: no, I don't have iocns on my desktop
[03:07] <barbara> ruks: under settings
[03:07] <maxamill1on> somerville32: it would be Roxbuntu ;)
[03:07] <vidd> somerville32, rubuntu? sounds like a plan....let me get working on that......
[03:07] <vidd> =] 
[03:07] <cheeseboy> whats command to reconfigure xorg?
[03:07] <maxamill1on> :P
[03:07] <TheSheep> cheeseboy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:07] <cheeseboy> thnx
[03:08] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: clibuntu
[03:08] <cheeseboy> and wats nvidia configuration tool called?
[03:08] <vidd> maxamill1on, and tecnicly it woud have to be roxubuntu...that (u) is so important!
[03:08] <ruks> cheeseboy u must be messing with beryl
[03:08] <maxamill1on> TheSheep: open box is interesting though ... its a window manager and nothing more, it doesn't attempt to be a de/wm hybrid like flux does
[03:08] <maxamill1on> vidd: no ... fluxbuntu doesn't have that u
[03:08] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: twm is more like that :)
[03:08] <vidd> maxamill1on, it is also not officially supported
[03:09] <vidd> =] 
[03:09] <ruks> no im in the gedit xorg.conf for /etc/X11
[03:09] <maxamill1on> TheSheep: i will go look into it ... none of them will probably replace xfwm4, i'm just bored and feel like chasing random things
[03:09] <maxamill1on> vidd: neither is xubuntu
[03:09] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: play nethack :)
[03:09] <vidd> maxamill1on, if they dropped that "x"...they would probably get more conatical support then xubuntu!
[03:10] <cheeseboy> ruks acyually im trying to setup tv
[03:10] <vidd> maxamill1on, xubuntu is no longer officially supported by conatical????? when did this happen?
[03:10] <TheSheep> vidd: you are right, the for of xubuntu that dropped the x is already the most supported one!
[03:10] <TheSheep> s/for/fork
[03:10] <maxamill1on> vidd: what on earth is conatical?
[03:11] <TheSheep> confunical :)
[03:11] <maxamill1on> lol
[03:11] <vidd> maxamill1on, a badly butcered attempt to spell mark shuttleworth's company without acually looking it up
[03:11] <maxamill1on> canonical
[03:12] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: they actually hire vidd at Google to invent new misspellings of search terms
[03:13] <maxamill1on> you know what's sad ... i bet they actually have someone there who makes more money per year than i _ever_ will
[03:13] <joejaxx> TheSheep: there is a cli ubuntu derivative
[03:13] <TheSheep> maxamill1on: who cares about money? you have us!
[03:14] <maxamill1on> so true
[03:14] <vidd> heck maxamill1on they probably have ppl there that make more a year then half of us will ever make
[03:14] <ruks> can u guys help me with this mouse issue?
[03:14] <maxamill1on> joejaxx: yes, there are _many_ ubuntu derivatives ... but they all display version names in conjuction with the mother distro ;)
[03:15] <vidd> ruks, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-409520.html
[03:15] <joejaxx> maxamill1on: there are too many :P
[03:15] <barbara> gtkrc is how you fix icons on xfce I think
[03:16] <barbara> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes
[03:19] <vidd> maxamill1on, the sad thing is that the way things are going with debian, ubuntu may surpass them in functionality
[03:20] <vidd> and debian may start getting from ubuntu, instead of the other way around
[03:20] <joejaxx> vidd: what makes you say that? :P
[03:22] <cheeseboy> how i setup tv clone w/ nv driver?
[03:22] <maxamill1on> vidd: well of course, why would debian developers put forth effort to do things that others are being paid to write ... and write open source in nature
[03:23] <maxamill1on> vidd: but one thing i will say for mark is that he recognizes that ubuntu can't exist without debian so he actually has some debian core devs on the pay roll
[03:23] <cheeseboy> anyone know
[03:24] <vidd> cheeseboy, tv clone?
[03:24] <vidd> !tv clone
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv clone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <maxamill1on> dinner time .. bbl
[03:27] <cheeseboy> vidd put wats on my monitor on my tv
[03:28] <vidd> oh...
[03:28] <vidd> no idea....it doesnt just work?
[03:30] <cheeseboy> nope
[03:31] <cheeseboy> flashed random colors on tv
[03:32] <Tailsfan> Hello, is there a way to easily manage my wi-fi connection on Xubuntu?
[03:34] <Pumpernickel> !info wifi-radar
[03:34] <ubotu> wifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 232 kB
[03:42] <barbara> alright I got a theme I wish to use to fix my issues with icons however user interface preferences will not list my theme even though its in the correct directory..
[03:42] <barbara> oh well I'll just keep tweaking theme a bit more until then
[03:44] <vidd> anyone have any recomendations for this display adaptor (besides replacing it with something decent and linux friendly)? 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev 01)
[03:48] <ruks> trying to install mac flash 9....instructions say to unpack it which i did its located at /home/david/Desktop it says in terminal navigate to location and type : + $ ./flashplayer-installer
[03:49] <ruks> how do i do the first part?
[03:49] <Pumpernickel> vidd: http://www.openchrome.org/
[03:49] <vidd> Pumpernickel, ty
[03:49] <vidd> wb maxamillion think you can stay for a while this time?
[03:50] <maxamillion> vidd: uhmm... possibly, what's up?
[03:50] <vidd> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev 01)
[03:51] <ruks> i dont know how to navigate there
[03:52] <vidd> Pumpernickel, have you installed this card b4?
[03:52] <maxamillion> i believe module or driver would be appropriate
[03:52] <vidd> ruks, you just want the flash plugin?
[03:53] <ruks> well i downloaded the tar.gz and unpacked it and thats what the installation instructions said
[03:53] <ruks> so i can watch stuff on youtube and what not
[03:54] <vidd> ruks, just go there, and click on the "install plugin" link...and let firefox do it for you
[03:54] <maxamillion> ruks: just openfirefox, click .... nvm, vidd beat me to it
[03:54] <maxamillion> ruks: firefox will do it automatically for you
[03:54] <ruks> sweet!!
[03:54] <vidd> YES!!!!! i get to beat out someone!!!!!!!
[03:58] <ruks1> this is the link it took me to
[03:58] <ruks1> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[03:59] <ruks1> its not showing me anything thats gonna do it for me
[03:59] <vidd> shockwave???
[04:01] <maxamillion> yeah .... there isn't any shockwave support for linux
[04:01] <ruks> macromedia flash player
[04:01] <ruks> 9
[04:01] <ruks> for linux
[04:01] <maxamillion> flash player != shockwave
[04:01] <vidd> ruks, that is flash...not shockwave
[04:02] <ruks> yea but why is it telling me i can download this then
[04:02] <ruks1> Installing the plugin tar.gz using Install script:
[04:02] <ruks1>    o Unpack the tar.gz file
[04:02] <ruks1>    o In terminal, navigate to the unpacked directory and enter:
[04:02] <ruks1>           + $ ./flashplayer-installer
[04:02] <ruks1>           + Click Enter key and follow prompts
[04:02] <ruks1> unpacked directory is /home/david/desktop
[04:02] <vidd> that is for the FLASH PLAYER not shockwave
[04:03] <ruks1> it said plugin,i went to youtube and instead of video it has a spot that said download plugin
[04:03] <ruks1> clicked on it and thats what it gave me
[04:04] <maxamillion> ruks1: don't use the flash player installer ... just let the firefox plugin manager do it for you
[04:04] <ruks> and how do i do that
[04:05] <vidd> maxamillion, before i get too far in this....
[04:05] <vidd> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[04:05] <vidd> do i need to install the 2d before the 3d?
[04:05] <ruks> it says i have javascript turned off or an old version of shockwave and has the link that gives me what i got already
[04:05] <vidd> or is it one or the other?
[04:06] <maxamillion> ruks: go to youtube.com, at the top of the page firefox will have a little button that says "install missing plugin", click it and then agree to the user license, click next a couple times and you are done
[04:07] <ruks> thats what i did,and that tar.gz file is what it gave me,it didnt install it for me
[04:07] <maxamillion> vidd: i would imagine its one or the other
[04:07] <maxamillion> vidd: if the 3d one supports your card then go with that
[04:08] <maxamillion> vidd: i really don't know to be entirely honest, but i would assume it to be one or the other and that some of the via chipsets don't support 3d
[04:08] <maxamillion> ruks: then something is wrong
[04:08] <vidd> ruks, then install sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs .... then restart firefox and go to that page again
[04:08] <vidd> maxamillion, wish me luck then
[04:09] <maxamillion> vidd: good luck
[04:09] <maxamillion> bah!
[04:09] <maxamillion> my fiance has informed me that it is time to bathe the dog ... wish me luck
[04:09] <maxamillion> bbl
[04:10] <ruks> lol
[04:11] <ruks1> did it,installed the stuff went to youtube and it says the exact same thing :(
[04:12] <ruks1> can someone just tell me how to do it this way
[04:12] <ruks1> Installing the plugin tar.gz using Install script:
[04:12] <ruks1>    o Unpack the tar.gz file
[04:12] <ruks1>    o In terminal, navigate to the unpacked directory and enter:
[04:12] <ruks1>           + $ ./flashplayer-installer
[04:12] <ruks1>           + Click Enter key and follow prompts
[04:12] <ruks1> directory is /home/david/Desktop
[04:13] <vidd> then cd /home/david/Desktop
[04:14] <vidd> *wave* cellofel1ow
[04:18] <ruks> ok typed in that and it said command not found
[04:18] <ruks> so what would be the full command?
[04:20] <vidd> the full command is cd /home/david/Desktop
[04:21] <vidd> that puts you into the directory you want to be on
[04:23] <ruks> man it says my architecture x86_64 is not supported by flash player installer
[04:23] <ruks> but it told me on the site it was what was for my platform etc
[04:23] <ruks> so what can i use for a plugin to watch stuff
[04:25] <vidd> sorry, ruks no idea
[04:25] <vidd> but THAT explains why you couldnt just click the link to auto install
[04:26] <ruks1> got ya
[04:26] <ruks1> is it cuz i have the 64amd?
[04:26] <vidd> yep
[04:26] <ruks1> i think that would be better wouldnt it?
[04:30] <ruks1> so no suggestions for  3d desktop?
[04:41] <vidd> weird....
[04:42] <vidd> my gxine is all out of wack when i play a video....cant see anything, but when i get a snapshot, the image is crystal clear
[04:42] <vidd> anyone have any idea why?
[05:06] <technel> GNOME took over my desktop. How do I get xfce-desktop back in control?
[05:23] <technel> GNOME took over my desktop. How do I get xfce-desktop back in control?
[05:58] <jgamio> how can i test my microphone
[06:28] <technel> My previous install of Ubuntu (Gnome) started up in 10-15 sec at most. I installed Xubuntu and I just timed it--the screen that just says "Xubuntu" and has a loading bar was up for 2 min, 20 sec!! Am I doing something wrong?
[06:37] <That_Halfling> Anyone able to give me a hand with an installation issue?
[06:38] <That_Halfling> Trying to install on a Panasonic Toughbook CF-R1 and everytime I go to start the installer(Alternate CD) it just boots to a flashing cursor and sits there
[06:40] <That_Halfling> No ideas?
[07:08] <klhrevolutionist> wondering if xubuntu installer bug was fixed and .iso was updated ?
[07:39] <neozen> meep?
[07:52] <vidd_> if you can help it, avoid verizon dsl like the plaque
[07:52] <vidd_> plague*
[07:53] <vidd_> as soon as they here"linux" they try to hang up on you
[08:02] <vidd> anyone know anything about gxine?
[08:09] <vidd> j1mc, you know anything about gxine?
[08:11] <j1mc> hey vidd... no, not really.  :(  sorry.
[08:11] <j1mc> i've used it very little.
[08:16] <test3r> hey - does ne1 use the Usenet in here????
[08:16] <j1mc> test3r: why do you ask?
[08:16] <test3r> im trying to pull it up - and im getting an openSSL error
[08:16] <test3r> i tried re-installing the openssl pack, and its not fixing it
[08:16] <test3r> not sure what to do.
[08:16] <j1mc> hmmm... not sure either.
[08:16] <j1mc> have you searched google or anything?
[08:17] <test3r> would it say that if im not using the correct nn////pass ?
[08:17] <test3r> it would say something diff, yes?
[08:17] <j1mc> test3r: sorry, i really have no idea.
[08:17] <test3r> well - what do You use j1mc ?
[08:17] <test3r> even tin is having problem going at all
[08:18] <vidd> question....how do you set up mplayer to view dvd's?
[08:20] <test3r> you'll want to use the Automatix packedge for that stuff, probably. it will make you confirm you are in the US, then it will install things for you to view DVD, I think
[08:21] <vidd> isnt automatix like...huge?
[08:22] <j1mc> test3r: i can't remember the last time i used usenet... :(
[08:22] <j1mc> test3r: vidd... try to avoid automatix.
[08:23] <j1mc> it can cause problems when you go to upgrade your system.
[08:24] <vidd> i asked if it was huge...then nothing
[08:25] <test3r> you don't have to install everything it offers
[08:25] <test3r> it is a packedge manager thing
[08:25] <test3r> nothing more
[08:25] <j1mc> vidd: i wouldn't recommend automatix.
[08:25] <j1mc> if you add it's repositories, and then go to update your system . . .
[08:25] <test3r> and if you up your system, im not sure if it works like every other packedge or not
[08:25] <j1mc> if their repos aren't updated, it will cause problems.
[08:26] <j1mc> automatix is not really necessary now, anyway.
[08:26] <j1mc> search for the libdvdcss file... i think that will do it for you.
[08:26] <vidd> i have it and installed....
[08:27] <vidd> my issue isnt with getting the thing to play....
[08:27] <vidd> the picture is messed up
[08:27] <vidd> well....in gxine it is
[08:27] <vidd> mplayer just dont play it
[08:28] <test3r> yeah back when i even had totem installed too trying to get stuff to pplay right
[08:28] <test3r> i dunno - j1mc must be majic codec man or something  =D
[08:29] <vidd> test3r, libxine-extracodecs works wonders
[08:29] <vidd> that and libdvdcss is all i should need...
[08:29] <vidd> all i needed on the other EIGHT boxes i have
[08:31] <test3r> i had libxine
[08:31] <test3r> plugs-bad
[08:31] <test3r> bad-multiverse
[08:31] <test3r> good
[08:31] <test3r> good-multiverse
[08:31] <test3r> ...etc..
[08:31] <test3r> some stuff just wont play right on here - Yet.
[08:32] <vidd> test3r, name one thing you cant play
[08:32] <test3r> well, lets start with mediaplayer10+ files
[08:32] <vidd> besides web content that discriminate based on reported os
[08:32] <test3r> also - some old janky 3.11 DiVX wouldnt play correct either
[08:33] <test3r> mightve been crazy 5 tho
[08:33] <test3r> i think i only had it going bak wiht NEMOs pak like 4 yrs ago
[08:34] <vidd> what cant you play TODAY?
[08:34] <vidd> and i think i got windows media to play....
[08:35] <vidd> dont recall
[08:35] <test3r> o i dunno i havent tried sorting thru playing stuff , anymore, rly.  u know - i should try DVDs on my notebook, though
[08:35] <test3r> yes old WMP9- filesw will play
[08:35] <test3r> but the newer ones wont go
[08:35] <test3r> u can tell pretty quickly the ver.#  in this way
[08:36] <vidd> test3r,  make sure you install the extracodecs
[08:36] <test3r> OK.  Im going to try that right now 4 us. Hey - do u use Newsgroups at all on here?
[08:36] <test3r> im having problem wiht OpenSSL and it
[08:37] <test3r> mainly openssl appears its not starting
[08:37] <test3r> is that something ihave to start up manually?
[08:37] <vidd> i dont...no
[08:38] <test3r> like should my cmnd b liike:    sudo openssl [switch]  NEWSREADER-PROG [adress////name////pass]     ?
[08:38] <vidd> test3r, man openssl?
[08:38] <test3r> yeah i did it can do alot but nothing that was useful lol
[08:38] <test3r> it looks like it should just be going?
[08:38] <test3r> is there a way i should b chekcing for that?
[08:38] <vidd> idk
[08:38] <test3r> how do i r chek my daemons?!?
[08:39] <vidd> again...idk
[08:40] <test3r> ooooooooooo - it looks i need a NNTPd
[08:40] <test3r> http://www.linux.com/howtos/Usenet-News-HOWTO/index.shtml
[08:40] <test3r> =)
[08:42] <vidd> aint google great?
[08:43] <test3r> weeeeeeee! LOL i dont use google as the corperations pressure them. i use webcrawler because it is the best of All worlds
[08:57] <vidd_> verizon is evil
[08:59] <Chikubu> nebody alive?
[08:59] <vidd> yeah
[09:00] <vidd> not for long though
[09:00] <Chikubu> xubuntu doesnt seem to detect my ct2980 sound blaster, ideas?
[09:00] <Chikubu> isa
[09:01] <vidd> isa?
[09:01] <Chikubu> yeah
[09:01] <vidd> what is isa?
[09:01] <Chikubu> not pci
[09:02] <vidd> oh...dont mind me...im super tired
[09:02] <Chikubu> k cya
[09:03] <Chikubu> nebody else alive?
[09:07] <test3r> whatups
[09:07] <test3r> im playing retail steve martin dvd right now , too, on my Laptop
[09:07] <test3r> =)
[09:07] <Chikubu> problems with isa sound card
[09:07] <Chikubu> BUT!!!
[09:08] <Chikubu> i just remember i have an external usb sound card in a box!@
[09:08] <test3r> i think Automatix set all of it up for me  - i hope you're incorrect about the upgrade troubles
[09:09] <test3r> Yep- I used automatix2_1.1-4.2-7.04feisty_i386
[09:10] <test3r> np >> The Lonely Guy
[09:10] <test3r> =/
[09:10] <test3r> lol i can resize the window to Any size too
[09:11] <test3r> and its going still
[09:11] <test3r> also it must not b gxine thats running it because that errored out attempting to try the retail dvd
[09:11] <test3r> the one that is running current plays all dvd i test now
[09:12] <test3r> is Totem
[09:25] <test3r> nice, tin runs now
[11:04] <logmein> heya ~homies
[11:05] <logmein> when gutsy coming out :)
[11:14] <novato_br> hi dudes, how can I install on kernel compile, the reader memory cards ?
[11:24] <grazie> novato_br: are you asking how to compile the kernel or what option(s) to enable or both? I know nothing about reader memory cards though.
[11:26] <novato_br> grazie, i want compile the kernel and install memory card reader
[11:26] <novato_br> the memory card reader is usb
[11:26] <novato_br> but the debian distro doesn't recongnized it
[11:27] <grazie> !kernel | novato_br
[11:27] <ubotu> novato_br: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:27] <novato_br> i was on there
[11:27] <novato_br> and I didn't find anything about this
[11:28] <grazie> novato_br: I don't think those instructions are very good...I've got a better link somewhere for compiling kernel
[11:29] <novato_br> but don't you think that I am looking for ?
[11:29] <novato_br> i'm looking for any place
[11:29] <novato_br> i didn't find
[11:29] <grazie> suggest using google to search for "memory card reader linux kernel". As it's usb, some options are enable by default, but you may need others
[11:30] <novato_br> memory card reader is not popular
[11:30] <novato_br> heehehe
[11:30] <novato_br> ok
[11:30] <grazie> someone else has already had and solved this problem I am certain :)
[11:32] <novato_br> grazie, i didn't find  and the most links talking about PS3
[11:32] <elbing> llevo 8 aos con tux, 11 en unix, 6 de sysadmin en la empresa... conoc xfce hace tiempo, me enamor de l hace dos meses. Ayer puse esta distro en mi laptop. Sinceramente y a quien corresponda: felicidades
[11:32] <elbing> ups sorry
[11:32] <novato_br> wow, spanish
[11:33] <novato_br> hi, elbing, you entendi el todo que tu dice
[11:33] <elbing> he he, yes, I forgot that this channel is an international channel
[11:33] <elbing> well, nice distro in any case
[11:33] <novato_br> soy brasileo
[11:33] <elbing> thanks novato_br , sorry for the spam people
[11:33] <elbing> well I'm spanish
[11:33] <grazie> novato_br: not something I needed to enable myself, so I can't help. If I come across something I'll post you a message
[11:34] <elbing> are you in #debian-es or anyone has your nick?
[11:34] <novato_br> ok, grazie, thx
[11:34] <novato_br> no, elbing . i'm not on debian-es
[11:35] <elbing> coincidence
[11:35] <elbing> :p
[11:35] <novato_br> somebody must be with the same nickname
[11:35] <test3r> i just set a custom sound trimmed with Audacity to my start sound in here !
[11:36] <test3r> OK- so how do i theme my login screen ?  =9
[11:36] <test3r> with a custom stuffs
[11:37] <elbing> to run jackd in realtime mode should I install a lowlatency-kernel as other ubuntu's?
[11:39] <novato_br> grazie, baby, my problem is: after kernel compilation
[11:39] <novato_br> MMC/SD memory card reader does not work
[11:40] <grazie> novato_br: why are you compiling the kernel?
[11:41] <novato_br> I can get better perfomace and optimized system
[11:42] <novato_br> i'll have to go! I need work! Thx grazie, i'll see late
[11:42] <grazie> then it seems that you are optimising out an option that you need!
[11:42] <novato_br> ok
[11:42] <novato_br> i cya
[12:10] <alnokta> why not add the ability to choose certain packages inside the 'Language Support' program?
[12:11] <TheSheep> alnokta: because when you only want certain packages, you can use synaptic and/or apt-get/aptitude
[12:12] <alnokta> TheSheep, but i don't want the help of ooo
[12:12] <alnokta> i just wanted to add another keyboard
[12:12] <TheSheep> alnokta: then remove it
[12:13] <alnokta> its downloading ;)
[12:13] <TheSheep> then stop it and install wahtever package you need with synaptic
[12:15] <alnokta> ok, stopped
[12:38] <test3r> nifty! you can really customize the boot screen alot if you want to!
[12:38] <test3r> I'm going to do something really neat with it.
[01:27] <test3r> ne1 a fan of CowboyBeBop?
[01:34] <TheSheep> !ot | test3r
[01:34] <ubotu> test3r: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:41] <test3r> !nm applet
[01:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nm applet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <test3r> does ne1 know how to combine that NM applet thing with wifi-radar onto the taskbar? for a real-time monitor?
[01:52] <test3r> aaaaah, acording to come logs from this channel, maxamillion already listed some programs being worked on for wifi users! I hope they work out- it will be pimp to have a tiny monitor / switcher on the icon bar
[02:01] <frojnd> hello there
[02:02] <frojnd> what's the name of print screen program for xubuntu?
[02:02] <frojnd> it's good if it's gnome
[02:04] <test3r> /usr/bin/screendump send it to STDOUT
[02:04] <test3r> cant get more raw than that =)
[02:05] <test3r> dunno what ur looking to DO, thought
[02:05] <frojnd> to make a screen shot :) but it has to be gnome
[02:05] <frojnd> ksnapshot it's got but it's kde
[02:05] <test3r> you can add it to the shortcut bars at the top so you can click it to take a screenshot
[02:06] <test3r> I have no idea.  try clicking your bar and goto "add item" it might be in the list
[02:06] <test3r> we have a lil pic of a camera for us
[02:07] <frojnd> oh, it has to be xfce :P
[02:07] <frojnd> I have to go .. bbl and I'll bother later :)
[02:07] <test3r> ez
[02:11] <TheSheep> frojnd: gimp
[02:11] <TheSheep> frojnd: you can also add a screenshot plugin to your panel
[02:11] <TheSheep> frojnd: or install a command-line program like scrot
[02:12] <test3r> gimp itself can take a screenshot? does it include its own interfaces on the screen?
[02:13] <TheSheep> test3r: yes, if you want to
[02:17] <test3r> crazy!.  Hey i just cheked out the plans: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe1/Xubuntu
[02:17] <test3r> looks nice - especially the bit about being able to format/write USB key drives now. Ive only tried copying off them in the past, and it can read from them as expected, but that's as far as I went
[02:19] <test3r> one thing I don't want is the RW of the NTFS sectors messing something up, though. I'm sure it will be plenty past those bugs by the time it is stable. It seems odd the day has finally came
[02:21] <test3r> I'll think I'll wait until an upgrade solution from Feisty is fleshed out though- I'm not even sure if I will. It's working quite nice, now, & see little reason to change it
[02:21] <test3r> I'll be using the new version on Some box, though
[02:21] <test3r> just not the laptop, heh
[02:22] <greg__> I installed Tribe1 on a spare harddrive and did the long test. Where should I post the results?
[02:24] <greg__> There were a couple of things I found kind of odd...like the partitioner called my ide drives sda, sdb etc
[02:25] <greg__> And you may delete a user without admin privelages
[02:27] <TheSheep> !testing
[02:27] <ubotu> For information on how to help test the next release of Xubuntu and for the results matrix, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Xubuntu/Current
[02:27] <test3r> i just recently figured out the /dev/cdrom link is in fact a 'ghost' SCSI link (its faked)  so that it works with certain other programs that ship as our main toolset
[02:27] <greg__> thanks
[02:28] <test3r> i also learned learning all this that native interface to ALL cd drive is scsi (at least im Pretty sure thats what they meant)
[02:29] <test3r> ATAPI is just afake layer and when it comes down to it- it is still using scsi commands
[02:29] <test3r> SO- maybe thats why you see that as the HDDs showing up
[02:30] <test3r> it is showing the tru interface through???? (although I didnt think it applied for HDDs)
[02:30] <test3r> fine then - LEAVE ! Yeeeaaaah.
[02:30] <test3r> ;p
[03:24] <barbara> think I found what I was looking for yesterday something called kolorizer to edit gtkrc files
[03:24] <barbara> surprised there no xubuntu equivalents
[03:55] <frojndp> hello there
[03:55] <frojndp> I have some serious problem out there with my screen...
[04:01] <barbara> frojndp: like what?
[04:08] <frojndp> barbara: like that: http://shrani.si/files/snapshot111yfz.jpg
[04:08] <frojndp> when I minimize things, the dissapear
[04:09] <TheSheep> frojndp: just add the task bar to one of the panels
[04:10] <TheSheep> frojndp: or, if you don't like the task bar, use icon box, or make the desktop display icons for minimized applications
[04:10] <alnokta> this buntu hanged for no good reason!
[04:11] <TheSheep> frojndp: you can also get to the minimized windows by clicking with the middle mouse button on the desktop
[04:11] <barbara> wtf lol
[04:11] <barbara> frojnpd: learn to right click and customize, its quite easy once you get hang of it
[04:12] <frojndp> I see
[04:12] <frojndp> middle click ok
[04:12] <barbara> try all the applets out
[04:12] <barbara> middle click? what sort of mouse you using?
[04:12] <barbara> :/
[04:12] <frojndp> am.. thrust :) :P
[04:12] <frojndp> Trust*
[04:13] <frojndp> how can I add taskabar
[04:14] <TheSheep> frojndp: right-click on the panel, select 'add item' and select task bar from the list
[04:14] <TheSheep> barbara: you're ona mac? ;)
[04:16] <barbara> nah standard 2 buttons and middle scroll with click, no curves so can be either right or left
[04:17] <TheSheep> barbara: and where is the scrollwheel that you push to click located? :)
[04:17] <barbara> middle
[04:18] <TheSheep> actually we still have some 3-button no-scrollwheel mice here
[04:18] <frojndp> why is "The sun" in the upper left corner? http://shrani.si/?snapshot111yfz.jpg  on my desktop?? how can I get rid of it ?
[04:18] <barbara> its another panel you have
[04:18] <barbara> remove panel 2
[04:19] <barbara> with the minus sign
[04:19] <frojndp> lemme try
[04:19] <frojndp> ok good
[04:19] <frojndp> 2 problems are godd now
[04:19] <barbara> wow 13G kind of small
[04:20] <frojndp> but there I have the biggest rpoblem. Picture is repeating itself on the bottom of screen, I tryed to screened it but I wasn't able, I think its some kind of monitor error. How can I reset all display setttings?
[04:20] <frojndp> 13gb for programming is far to big :)
[04:22] <TheSheep> frojndp: try different modes with settings->display settings
[04:22] <frojndp> anyways, this is quite annoying, couse picture is starting to repeat itself on the monitor (2cms of monitor on the bottom)
[04:22] <TheSheep> frojndp: seems like your monitor doesn't handle that large resolution well
[04:22] <frojndp> TheSheep could be, y es
[04:22] <TheSheep> alternatively, try to use the controls on the monitor to tune it
[04:22] <barbara> ah programming I usually use anjuta for
[04:23] <TheSheep> sight, the GUI generation :)
[04:25] <barbara> TheSheep: you ever find that article on removing icon bubbles?
[04:25] <TheSheep> barbara: no, sorry, didn't have time to look at it
[04:25] <barbara> well I tried toying with gtkrc of themes but so far no luck and having trouble with the hex codes for colors
[04:27] <frojndp> now there is no repeated picture :)
[04:28] <frojndp> but my layout ve switched to US
[04:28] <frojndp> how can I change it to si, slovene slovenija..
[04:31] <frojndp> anz idea how to change layout. I tried in settings > keyboard but no luck
[04:31] <barbara> install the language pack
[04:31] <barbara> under synaptic
[04:33] <frojndp> can ugive me command
[04:33] <frojndp> for termila
[04:33] <frojndp> terminal
[04:33] <frojndp> cant find specific caracter
[04:34] <vidd_laptop> sudo synptic
[04:34] <TheSheep> there is a panel plugin for changing the keyboard layout
[04:34] <vidd_laptop> sudo synaptic
[04:35] <frojndp> oh u mean GUI advanced packave
[04:35] <frojndp> package*
[04:35] <TheSheep> you can also use settings->languages to install the language packs
[04:38] <vidd_laptop> TheSheep, i know so few GUI solutions for linux....=] 
[04:38] <vidd_laptop> the CLI is so much better
[04:38] <vidd_laptop> to think...13 months ago i was afraid of the command line!
[04:38] <Catoptromancy> heh
[04:38] <Catoptromancy> first thing i was was learn a bit of bash
[04:38] <TheSheep> this is some weird conditionaing -- I don't really know where it comes from
[04:39] <Catoptromancy> and I used batch files all the time in Windows, so I learned shells very fast
[04:40] <frojndp> am... if I change keyboard an monitor, how can reset settings ??
[04:40] <frojndp> what is the command for that
[04:41] <frojndp> oh and how can I reset refresh rate ?
[04:42] <frojndp> now its on 60. bu my CRT monitor can handle 85 :D
[04:42] <frojndp> mHZ
[04:43] <Catoptromancy> I would think it was adjust from monitor
[04:43] <Catoptromancy> Newer monitors have built in refresh rate
[04:43] <frojndp> how can I limit download rate_
[04:44] <frojndp> is there any command or program to do that ?
[04:45] <alnokta> TheSheep, you have an idea why the computer flashed a skygreen screen then hanged? the keyboard, mouse..nothing
[04:46] <TheSheep> alnokta: no, looks like a hardware problem though
[04:47] <alnokta> TheSheep, but don't occur on winxp?
[05:23] <MeneerE> ello
[05:23] <MeneerE> i cant get acces to root
[05:23] <MeneerE> and i am sure i am typing the correct pass
[05:24] <TheSheep> !root | MeneerE
[05:24] <ubotu> MeneerE: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:25] <MeneerE> i want to install http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting
[05:26] <MeneerE> i got the self extracting package
[05:26] <TheSheep> MeneerE: why don't you install the java from repositories?
[05:27] <TheSheep> MeneerE: it's prepared and ested
[05:27] <TheSheep> tested
[05:27] <MeneerE> repositories?
[05:27] <MeneerE> wheres that?
[05:27] <MeneerE> apt-get install java?
[05:27] <TheSheep> !repos | MeneerE
[05:28] <ubotu> MeneerE: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:30] <MeneerE> it doesnt say where these repositories are
[05:30] <MeneerE> ._.
[05:30] <TheSheep> MeneerE: they are on the ubuntu servers all over the world
[05:31] <MeneerE> theres no internet on the laptop
[05:31] <MeneerE> :/
[05:31] <TheSheep> MeneerE: then get a deb from packages.ubuntu.com
[05:32] <TheSheep> !find sun-java6
[05:32] <ubotu> Found: sun-java6-bin, sun-java6-demo, sun-java6-doc, sun-java6-fonts, sun-java6-javadb (and 4 others)
[05:35] <MeneerE> Source Package: sun-java6, Download: [dsc]  [sun-java6_6-00.orig.tar.gz]  [sun-java6_6-00-2ubuntu2.diff.gz] 
[05:36] <MeneerE> which one?
[05:36] <Jester45> sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-jdk
[05:36] <TheSheep> Jester45: why would he need the java development kit?
[05:36] <Jester45> i would do the ubuntu one
[05:36] <MeneerE> TheSheep: programming robocode
[05:36] <Jester45> i just saying the other sun-java6 packages i know of
[05:36] <TheSheep> MeneerE: don't download the source package, you need the .deb the link is higher
[05:37] <TheSheep> MeneerE: click on the x86 (or i386) above
[05:38] <MeneerE> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=sun-java6-jdk&version=feisty&arch=i386&page=1&number=50 <-- that?
[05:38] <TheSheep> MeneerE: no, this http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Fs%2Fsun-java6%2Fsun-java6-jdk_6-00-2ubuntu2_i386.deb&md5sum=910445a56954b69efce803a64182fcc8&arch=i386&type=main
[05:39] <MeneerE> will robocode install itself? (its a jar)
[05:39] <MeneerE> .jar*
[05:40] <TheSheep> MeneerE: you don't need to install jars to run them
[05:42] <MeneerE> error: dependency is not satisfiable: sun-java6.jre
[05:42] <MeneerE> -jre *
[05:42] <TheSheep> well, some packages require other packages to be installed
[05:43] <TheSheep> you will get all of them from packages.ubuntu.com
[05:43] <TheSheep> (synaptic would download them automagically if you had internet on that laptop)
[05:44] <Jester45> MeneerE, you have to get that package also and install them at the same time
[05:44] <MeneerE> so i need the jre evironment too?
[05:44] <MeneerE> to make it work
[05:44] <Jester45> yea if it says it needs it to install then you do need it
[05:44] <TheSheep> MeneerE: you need only the jre environment to run the java programs, you only need jdk if you want to write and compile java programs
[05:45] <MeneerE> i want to write, run and compile
[05:45] <TheSheep> MeneerE: you need the java plugin if you want to run java applets in your browser
[05:45] <TheSheep> then you need the jre, jdk and plugin
[05:45] <MeneerE> http://robocode.sourceforge.net/ <-- doing this
[05:48] <MeneerE> how are you able to search on that ubuntu page?
[05:50] <MeneerE> ah, found it
[05:50] <TheSheep> it's alittle awkward
[05:51] <MeneerE> indeed it is
[05:51] <MeneerE> now for the pluging
[05:51] <MeneerE> -g
[05:52] <MeneerE> once you get the hang of it, its quite easy, i bet
[05:52] <Jester45> many things are
[05:53] <Jester45> TheSheep, can you look at http://jester45.homelinux.net/ and tell me why the background of the page is not black
[05:54] <TheSheep> Jester45: oh, that;s simple. it's because it's white :)
[05:55] <Jester45> wait... did i put the color as white?
[05:55] <TheSheep> Jester45: no, but you used a 20 years old depracated attribute directly in your hatml
[05:55] <TheSheep> html
[05:55] <Jester45> i have tried using css and html
[05:55] <TheSheep> Jester45: remove that and but 'html {background:#000}' in the css instead
[05:57] <TheSheep> Jester45: also, your html lacks doctype
[05:58] <Jester45> ok... it changed but the cell spaceing is white still
[05:58] <Jester45> does it need it ?
[05:59] <Jester45> i all ways took it out to gain a tiny bit more speed
[05:59] <TheSheep> Jester45: you have a spurious } in your css
[05:59] <Jester45> ?
[06:00] <TheSheep> Jester45: and remove that body {
[06:00] <TheSheep> background:#ffffff;
[06:00] <TheSheep> ...
[06:00] <TheSheep> Jester45: that .css file can be stripped to literally 5 lines and still do the same thing
[06:01] <Jester45> i removed the { and now nothing is held in the center
[06:01] <Jester45> ok look at it again
[06:01] <Jester45> im not to good with css
[06:01] <TheSheep> it was an extra } not {, sorry
[06:02] <Jester45> so removed the } in front of body ?
[06:02] <TheSheep> Jester45: there is a validator at http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
[06:02] <Jester45> yea... i need to validate my little site and all of vidd's
[06:02] <TheSheep> the syntax is simple:   selector { properties separated with ; }
[06:03] <Jester45> ok look again i removed the } and put in the { and now its white
[06:03] <MeneerE> graa O_O
[06:04] <MeneerE> ia32-sun-java6-bin isnt for i386
[06:04] <MeneerE> only amd 64
[06:05] <Jester45> what ya need the -bin for
[06:06] <MeneerE> installing the sun java6 jre package
[06:06] <Jester45> hum... i didnt have to do that
[06:06] <MeneerE> perhaps i should try java5, then
[06:07] <Jester45> i wouldnt, i think 6 is much better
[06:07] <MeneerE> seems like i dont have much choice now, do i?
[06:08] <frojnd> what's the graphic input name ?
[06:08] <frojnd> like kdm for kubuntu
[06:08] <frojnd> what's for xubuntu?
[06:09] <Jester45> humm you know there are 2 packages that are -bin
[06:09] <MeneerE> yea
[06:09] <frojnd> anyone?
[06:09] <frojnd> u know.. how can I restatr by command line xubuntu
[06:09] <Jester45> MeneerE, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Fs%2Fsun-java6%2Fsun-java6-bin_6-00-2ubuntu2_i386.deb&md5sum=e814337135ae0039519d75daafb18562&arch=i386&type=main
[06:10] <frojnd> sudo /etc/init.d/?? restart
[06:10] <Jester45> i386 -bin
[06:10] <Jester45> frojnd, its gdm
[06:10] <frojnd> oh tnx
[06:10] <MeneerE> i already started downloading that
[06:10] <frojnd> I've installed nvidia-glx driveres
[06:11] <frojnd> how can I enable it
[06:11] <frojnd> by renameing kdb into "nv" ?
[06:11] <Jester45> frojnd, edit your /etc/xorg.conf
[06:11] <frojnd> Jester45: ok
[06:11] <frojnd> Jester45: I'm in it right now
[06:11] <Jester45> and find where it says what drivers your device is using and change that to the nvidia ones
[06:12] <frojnd> Jester45: for driveres it says: kbd
[06:12] <frojnd> and I change it to "nvidia" ?
[06:13] <Jester45> yea i think so
[06:13] <frojnd> arh :s
[06:13] <frojnd> doesn't work
[06:14] <frojnd> also when I typed in nvidia
[06:14] <TheSheep> Jester45: http://sheep.art.pl/misc/jester.css
[06:14] <frojnd> gdm just died
[06:14] <MeneerE> GNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[06:14] <Jester45> TheSheep, will that do the same as what i got?
[06:14] <frojnd> !vidia
[06:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vidia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:14] <frojnd> "nvidia
[06:14] <MeneerE> jre needs the java bin to be installed
[06:14] <frojnd> !nvidia
[06:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:15] <TheSheep> Jester45: try it
[06:15] <MeneerE> the java bin needs the jre to be installed
[06:15] <TheSheep> frojnd: congratulations, you just replaced the drivers for your keyboard with the drivers for your graphics card
[06:15] <TheSheep> frojnd: put that kbd back and find the line that says 'driver "nv"'
[06:15] <Jester45> TheSheep, thanks
[06:15] <TheSheep> frojnd: and replace *that* line with 'driver "nvidia"'
[06:16] <Jester45> TheSheep, i been working on that for a few days
[06:16] <frojnd> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
[06:17] <TheSheep> Jester45: also, you don't need that <div id="main"> in the html anymore, I used the <body> tag instead
[06:17] <TheSheep> Jester45: I will gladly help you with any css
[06:17] <Jester45> TheSheep, do you like css?
[06:18] <Jester45> TheSheep, wanna help with php?
[06:18] <TheSheep> Jester45: I don't like php
[06:18] <Jester45> :)
[06:18] <Jester45> neither do i
[06:19] <Jester45> php/mysql is really fun
[06:19] <Jester45> and what makes it worse is that i jumped into and i and dont really know how both of them work
[06:19] <Jester45> with html i at least know some of how it works
[06:20] <MeneerE> grr
[06:20] <Jester45> and im a bit better at css
[06:20] <Jester45> but my favorite is bash :)
[06:20] <TheSheep> Jester45: that's really bad position to be in
[06:20] <Jester45> totally diffrent
[06:21] <MeneerE> TheSheep
[06:21] <Jester45> TheSheep, would you like to help me with removing a package? it gives me a error code 1
[06:21] <MeneerE> how is this possible?
[06:21] <MeneerE> :/
[06:21] <MeneerE> jre and java.bin depend on each other to be installed
[06:21] <TheSheep> MeneerE: a loop in dependencies?
[06:21] <Jester45> !pastebin
[06:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:21] <MeneerE> so you can nevver install them
[06:21] <MeneerE> -v
[06:22] <TheSheep> MeneerE: are you sure you didn't mix the names?
[06:22] <Jester45> MagicFab, run sudo dpkg -i package.deb package.deb
[06:22] <MeneerE> nope
[06:22] <Jester45> TheSheep, they are looped
[06:22] <Jester45> i looked
[06:22] <MeneerE> java 5 and java 6
[06:22] <MeneerE> both the same problem
[06:22] <MeneerE> any replacement?
[06:23] <MeneerE> or solution
[06:23] <Jester45> MeneerE, run sudo dpkg -i sun-java6-bin.deb dun-java6-jre.deb
[06:23] <MeneerE> whats that, Jester45?
[06:23] <Merchelo> run that command
[06:23] <Merchelo> to install everything you need
[06:23] <Jester45> its the backend of apt
[06:24] <Jester45> just replace the .deb with the real name and path
[06:25] <Jester45> TheSheep, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25741/
[06:25] <Jester45> what do you think of that?
[06:25] <Jester45> aptitude cant fix it also
[06:26] <MeneerE> er
[06:26] <MeneerE> i dont know the path
[06:26] <MeneerE> how do you say where something is?
[06:26] <MeneerE> :|
[06:27] <Jester45> are you in the command line only ? or are you in a gui
[06:27] <TheSheep> Jester45: looks like someone made a broken python package
[06:27] <MeneerE> gui
[06:27] <Jester45> TheSheep, do you know how to fix it?
[06:27] <TheSheep> MeneerE: right click on the empty space next to these deb files, and select 'open terminal here'
[06:27] <MeneerE> ah
[06:27] <MeneerE> :D
[06:27] <Jester45> MeneerE, type "sudo dpkg -i " then you can drag and drop the files into the terminal
[06:28] <Jester45> TheSheep, so would i need to install somthing to remove this?
[06:28] <TheSheep> Jester45: I think you might try to reinstall that package first
[06:29] <TheSheep> Jester45: and see if it works
[06:29] <Jester45> i cant
[06:29] <TheSheep> Jester45: you can go to '/var/dpkg/something...', find the uninstall script for that package and replace it with an empty file...
[06:30] <Jester45> well i have to go away for a bit
[06:30] <TheSheep> Jester45: but that may leave some leftovers in your system
[06:30] <Jester45> i gotta call my work
[06:31] <Jester45> installing python didnt help
[06:33] <test3r> hey - SMB isnt mounting my remote printer - do i have to do that manually?  "/usr/lib/cups/backend/smb failed"  is the message that the 'localhost' webpage config gives me
[06:34] <TheSheep> test3r: um, isn't there a gui program for configuring that in the system menu?
[06:35] <test3r> when i point it to it with "smb://Workgroup/BoxName/PrinterName" cups says it sees it
[06:36] <test3r> but I just now got this error msg to show up & my hunch was correct - it was the mount somehow
[06:36] <test3r> I have hard-wire-connected the printer & printed test page already.
[06:40] <test3r> printing thru the air to a printer connected via-USB, janky-drivers-that-are-not-PPD, on a WIndows box is Hard.
[06:44] <test3r> HP's techs were of no help though. they just said "your printer does not support post script nor have a PPD"
[06:44] <test3r> but there exists a linux special driver For it (thank goodnes)
[06:48] <test3r> wait - never mind i found something -
[06:48] <test3r> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/39484
[06:48] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 39484 in samba "cups smb printing backend no longer works" [High,Confirmed] 
[06:49] <test3r> looked and looked . oh look at j00000! mr bot. all smart n stuff!
[06:49] <test3r> i guess i will have a reason to up to 7.1 after all? Comon PLEASE tell them fix that 7.1!
[06:50] <test3r> I used automatix tho on this install  =(  I will need one heck of a picky upgrade method
[06:52] <TheSheep> !automatix
[06:52] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:53] <TheSheep> hmm...
[06:57] <test3r> !WorksForMe
[06:57] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:58] <test3r> !playing multimedia
[06:58] <test3r> !libxine
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <test3r> !codec
[06:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:02] <MeneerE> i still cant seem to install
[07:02] <MeneerE> both files
[07:02] <MeneerE> the looped ones :/
[07:14] <test3r> whelps, i guess i just have to wait n see then if it upgrades smooth or not
[07:29] <Jester45> MeneerE, have you tried moving the debs into apt's cache and just using apt to instal
[07:29] <MeneerE> i've given up today
[07:29] <MeneerE> working on my windows machine now
[07:30] <Jester45> sorry to hear that
[07:33] <hyper_ch> huhu
[07:48] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: aloha
[07:48] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: master thesis handed in
[07:48] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: now it's praying time ;)
[07:48] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: congrats
[07:49] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: you don't have to 'defend' it now?
[07:49] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: nah
[07:49] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: only your doctoral thesis
[07:49] <TheSheep> unfair
[07:49] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: but after my master thesis I know, I'll never write a doctoral one :)
[07:49] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: hehe, thought the same after mine
[07:49] <hyper_ch> you're a doctor? ^^
[07:49] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: now I'm slowly starting to collect material for the phd...
[07:50] <hyper_ch> Mr. Doctor, Sir... I went swimming yesterday and know I ahve a lot of muscle ache.. what can I do for it to stop
[07:50] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: master only
[07:51] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: Dr. TheSheep
[07:52] <hyper_ch> new skype version
[07:53] <TheSheep> bleh
[07:53] <TheSheep> Dr A. Culla, hematologist
[07:53] <hyper_ch> what's a hematologist?
[07:59] <radioaktivstorm> anyone know how to stop epiphany from opening new windows? i want to override that and make everything open in tabs
[08:02] <hyper_ch> if the target is set as _blank I think the it opens a new window... I see the same in firefox
[08:02] <radioaktivstorm> hyper_ch, but isnt there a setting that lets you override that in firefox?
[08:02] <hyper_ch> that doesn't work too well :)
[08:03] <radioaktivstorm> lol
[08:11] <radioaktivstorm> hmm
[08:11] <radioaktivstorm> maybe i should just use firefox
[08:11] <radioaktivstorm> i like epiphany though
[08:11] <radioaktivstorm> o well
[08:16] <gnomefreak> radioaktivstorm: epiphany should have tab support look in the preffernces
[08:16] <gnomefreak> atleast on feisty
[08:18] <radioaktivstorm> gnomefreak, im not seeing it in the preferences
[08:19] <radioaktivstorm> i mean, i can open tabs
[08:19] <radioaktivstorm> but as hyper_ch said before the _blank open in new windows
[08:21] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[08:22] <radioaktivstorm> not really sure how to fix it :/ or if it can be fixed
[08:23] <TheSheep> radioaktivstorm: try searching in about:config
[08:23] <TheSheep> radioaktivstorm: it's like windows registry -- everything is in there
[08:23] <radioaktivstorm> cool thanks, do you know what kind of thing i would be looking for?
[08:24] <radioaktivstorm> i was browsing through firefox about:config
[08:24] <radioaktivstorm> but i wasnt sure what made it open new windows in tabs
[08:31] <radioaktivstorm> does anyone know what the epiphany folder is? i dont see one in /home
[08:32] <TheSheep> radioaktivstorm: epiphany uses gconf to store its configuration, like every real GNOME application should
[08:33] <TheSheep> radioaktivstorm: you can install the gconf-editor to get into it
[08:33] <TheSheep> radioaktivstorm: it's even more like windows registry :D
[08:33] <radioaktivstorm> thanks lol :P
[08:35] <hyper_ch> how can I install windows media player 10? ^^
[08:35] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: start by repetedely stabbing your knee
[08:35] <hyper_ch> ;)
[08:37] <hyper_ch> *watching now some BG*
[08:37] <radioaktivstorm> oo...gettin late gotta part! thanks for all the helps
[08:37] <hyper_ch> BSG
[08:37] <TehRealNexGen> ?
[08:38] <hyper_ch> battlestar galactica ;)
[08:38] <radioaktivstorm> \o/
[08:38] <radioaktivstorm> BATTLESTAR GALACTICA!!
[08:38] <hyper_ch> season 3
[08:39] <radioaktivstorm> nice
[08:41] <TehRealNexGen> :-[
[08:42] <hyper_ch> TehRealNexGen: whats wrong?
[08:58] <crabgrass> where is screen resolution information stored for xfce?
[08:58] <crabgrass> i mean, not X.org
[09:01] <kalikiana_> crabgrass, I don't think XFCE uses anything but Xorg's resolution, so nothing to store.
[09:04] <crabgrass> seems like it has it's own list, considering i added 1920x1200 in xorg.conf myself, and the highest xfce>settings>display shows is 1600x1200
[09:06] <kalikiana_> crabgrass, XFCE often replaces the highest resolution with 'Default'. Is that the case with you?
[09:12] <crabgrass> kalikiana_: apparently not, since every time it boots, it goes to 1600x1200, and i have to use nvidia-settings to change it
[09:18] <kalikiana_> crabgrass, That's actually strange. I am no expert in that area, you might ask in #xfce for help as well.
[09:19] <crabgrass> kalikiana_: will do, thanks for the help
[09:19] <kalikiana_> :)
[09:33] <K3rl0u4rn> hi !
[09:34] <K3rl0u4rn> I have installed a fresh xubuntu (feisty) and have problem with gxine
[09:34] <Maximilian1st> K3rl0u4rn, So did I and that is why I turned to vlc
[09:34] <K3rl0u4rn> whatever file I open, it tries to read CD-Rom and tells me no CD is in
[09:35] <K3rl0u4rn> Maximilian1st: should I ? is there a way I can use win32codecs with VLC ?
[09:35] <Maximilian1st> K3rl0u4rn, I'm not sure if this is related, probably..
[09:36] <K3rl0u4rn> It is not but this is the reason why I don't always use VLC
[09:36] <K3rl0u4rn> I used to use mplayer, but since xubuntu comes with gxine, I thaught it may be a good software
[09:39] <predaeus> K3rl0u4rn, get mplayer too. there is often files that would not play with one or the other but another one would do.
[09:58] <bangcock> i'm having probs getting an older version of sun java working on xubuntu... fesity fawn... trying to get jre1.3.1_06 installed
[09:59] <bangcock> i run the shell script to create the jre1.3.1_06 folder... i move it to /opt/jre1.3 & create links in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins & firefox plugins... still no go tho
[10:00] <predaeus> bangcock, what java version does about:plugins in firefox list?
[10:00] <bangcock> i have to admit i don't use ubuntu at all but xubuntu was the way to go for this older laptop... not sure mebe xubuntu has a bit of a diff file structure than fedora?
[10:01] <bangcock> i created the same link for both the firefox & mozilla plugin folders
[10:02] <bangcock> i need this older version of java for work... they might make me use winblowz if i can't get this one cooking... yak
[10:05] <bangcock> ya know i never did even try installing latest/greatest ver of java wonder if that would be a good idea 2 try
[10:06] <predaeus> bangcock, just install java from the repositories
[10:07] <bangcock> umm will i b able 2 sudo apt-get jre1.3* ?
[10:07] <bangcock> it's like an ancient version yeah?
[10:07] <predaeus> no idea. try to search it with synaptic or add/remove
[10:08] <predaeus> or just get a new version, what do you need the old for anyway?
[10:08] <predaeus> apart from compatibility testing
[10:08] <bangcock> 4 work :)
[10:08] <predaeus> as far as I know java is totally downwards compatible. so get a new version.
[10:08] <bangcock> for some dumb reason java isn't backwards compatible
[10:09] <predaeus> hm weird
[10:09] <bangcock> nope
[10:09] <bangcock> thats what i thought... tried connecting to an i/f at work that expects jre1.3* with the latest jre1.6* & it hangs up on security checks
[10:09] <predaeus> 1.4 firefox plugin is in repos
[10:10] <predaeus> for performance and security reasons they should update their implementation
[10:11] <bangcock> lol tell me about it... i have complained about that since i found out i need a box running jre1.3
[10:11] <predaeus> :-D
[10:11] <bangcock> but big company = slow to conform/upgrade
[10:11] <predaeus> hm, try if it works with 1.4
[10:11] <predaeus> the plugin is in repos
[10:11] <predaeus> run add/remove, type in java and select
[10:11] <bangcock> jre1.4 yeah? mebe try that also
[10:12] <predaeus> blackdown java j2re1.4 is in repos
[10:13] <bangcock> kk will try that... thanx not on xubuntu atm 2 check :) cheers
[10:14] <predaeus> no problem, you are welcome, I know the hassles of installing java and linking things around :-D
[10:14] <predaeus> doh, too late
[11:03] <RememberPOL> Is there a way to launch mousepad from xfterm4 and have it _NOT_ exit if I quit xfterm4? (mousepad & doesn't work)
[11:04] <TheSheep> RememberPOL: no
[11:04] <RememberPOL> for shame
[11:04] <TheSheep> RememberPOL: unix has a precess *tree*
[11:04] <TheSheep> RememberPOL: if you cut a branch you're sitting on...
[11:05] <RememberPOL> well is there a way to have mousepad run off a lower branch from xterm4?
[11:05] <RememberPOL> ^^
[11:05] <TheSheep> RememberPOL: dbus maybe...
[11:05] <RememberPOL> ah
[11:05] <TheSheep> RememberPOL: I think you could try exo-open
[11:06] <RememberPOL> k
[11:07] <TheSheep> but I think it would be a cool idea to have the defult text editor registered as a dbus service
[11:09] <RememberPOL> well that's just an example (mousepad)
[11:09] <RememberPOL> the actually process i'm wanting to run like this is moin.py
[11:10] <RememberPOL> I mean I could probably put it in /etc/rc.local to have it launch at startup permanently...
[11:10] <RememberPOL> but say I want to stop and restart the process but have it run in the background so I don't see it and I can close my x terminals and such...
[11:11] <RememberPOL> I guess I could use a (CTRL+ALT+F[1-6] ) virtual terminal
[11:12] <RememberPOL> But say I want to launch it as a pertinent background process from an X display using a distribution-independent method (leaving out dbus)
[11:12] <RememberPOL> *shrug*
[11:12] <RememberPOL> virtual terms will be good enough i suppose
[11:19] <TheSheep> RememberPOL: write a script for th init.d
[11:34] <m0u5e> Can anyone help me? I followed the instructions for getting a microsoft intellimouse to work (imwheel) and now my scroll up and down doesnt work
[11:35] <m0u5e> also the option in "mice" under ubuntu system>preferences no longer has the option of making my middle mouse button able to auto scroll
[11:35] <m0u5e> oh crap... wrong channel sorry guys :X
[11:38] <RememberPOL> did you manually edit xorg.conf?