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ryanpgalso, I'm getting this warning frequently when starting apps from the command line "GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions; memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() has been detected; this program is likely to crash, leak or unexpectedly abort soon..."12:35
EnverexI used to get that, not seen it recently though12:35
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crimsunryanpg: make sure you're running -current- gutsy.12:37
ryanpgcrimsun, I just did apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade today12:37
crimsunyou need to do it every hour sometime after 33 minutes past the hour.12:39
ryanpgthis is my "gutsy" line in sources.list deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse12:39
crimsunupdating once per day is insufficient12:39
ryanpgI don't think I'm missing anything, or am I?12:39
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ryanpgcrimsun, run firefox from the command line for me... tell me if you get that warning please?12:43
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crimsunryanpg: yes12:46
ryanpgI think it's due to having libglib2 debugging symbols installed perhaps12:47
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ryanpgyay! apport finally ran (for some unknown reason)01:16
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shirishok can somebody tell me how can I use gmailfs?01:31
shirishwhen I try to install it , it says01:32
shirishsudo aptitude install gmailfs01:32
shirishReading package lists... Done01:32
shirishBuilding dependency tree01:32
shirishReading state information... Done01:32
shirishReading extended state information01:32
shirishInitializing package states... Done01:32
shirishBuilding tag database... Done01:32
shirishNo packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.01:32
shirish0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.01:32
shirishNeed to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.01:32
shirishWriting extended state information... Done01:32
shirishwhich means it is already done01:32
crdlb!pastebin | shirish01:32
ubotushirish: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:32
shirishthanx crdlb putting the large text there01:33
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shirishcrdlb: when I do aptitude show it shows me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25799/01:34
shirishcan somebody guide me what I need to do, so i can start seeing if it works or not?01:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gmailfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:36
gnomefreakthere was a good how to on it01:36
shirishgnomefreak: how do I fuse-source to compile appropriate modules for my running kernel.01:37
shirishah tht would have been cool01:37
gnomefreakshirish: alot of building you may not want to do01:37
gnomefreakshirish: theres a good simple guide im trying to find the person that wrote it01:37
shirishgnomefreak: true, if there is any way to avoid it that would be nice01:37
shirishin the meantime01:39
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shirishvery relaxing exercise ;)01:39
DanaGooh: http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/details.php?id=97501:40
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gnomefreakshirish: you dont have to compile them01:41
gnomefreakshirish: http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem-installing.html01:41
gnomefreakDanaG: please stay on topic in here01:41
EnverexUbuntu's kernel comes with fglrx in volatile by default, but if you build the ATi fglrx module with module-assistant it puts it in misc instead (so it doesn't work as it ends up loading the one from volatile which is the old one)01:42
gnomefreakEnverex: wait for new ones to get done. fglrx doesnt have support for 7.3 yet01:43
shirishgnomefreak: ok can we a private conversation to understand what I need to do about gmailfs or is this place ok?01:43
Enverexgnomefreak, Yes it does01:43
Enverexgnomefreak, As of 8.3701:43
gnomefreakEnverex: they released them in ubuntu?01:43
gnomefreakafaik they are not in ubuntu yet01:43
EnverexOf course not, Ubuntu doesn't seems incredibly slow on the uptake of new drivers, heh01:44
gnomefreakshirish: it tells you what to do in hte link01:44
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shirishgnomefreak: I'm kinda new to this, hence it would be better to know before jumping :)01:45
gnomefreakEnverex: than the drivers dont support 7.3 and if you did get them from ati you need to look for support in #ubuntu-offtopic01:45
shirishgnomefreak: for e.g. our recent kernels have FUSE by default, yes?01:45
gnomefreakshirish: ive never done it but there should be a better guide out there. my gamil accounts are loaded down as it is01:45
gnomefreakshirish: should yes01:45
pwnguinEnverex: afaik, there's a a problem where xserver 1.3 reports 1.3 as the version, and fglrx looks for 7.001:45
Enverexgnomefreak, The drivers were built from source with module-assistant. Where the modules are put is a module-assistant issue, not a source package issue, correct?01:46
Enverexpwnguin, Yes, with the OLD drivers01:46
shirishgnomefreak: same here, there is a firefox add-on called Gspace which I use, but personally like gmailfs01:46
pwnguinim checking with phoronix, but i dont see anything about new drivers recently01:46
gnomefreakEnverex: sounds more like a conflict01:47
Enverexpwnguin, 8.37 was released a week ago or so01:47
gnomefreakEnverex: if you feel its a build issue join #ubuntu-motu see if they can help you with the build01:47
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shirishgnomefreak: hopefully you can find a better guide sometime & put that in the factoid?01:48
Enverexgnomefreak, I think you're kinda missing the point. module-assistant is what makes the driver package, I doubt motu are going to help with that.01:48
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DanaGArgh, whenever I open properties for ANY media file, Nautilus crashes.01:49
crimsunI don't experience that at all.01:49
shirishgnomefreak: there is no mention of gmailfs anywhere in the community help pages :(01:49
crimsunDo you have totem* installed?01:49
DanaGYeah, I've tried both -xine and -gstreamer.01:50
pwnguinDanaG: any debugging output?01:50
shirishDanaG: confirmed at my end too01:50
shirishpwguin: no debugging output01:51
DanaGnautilus: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-1.0/libtotem-properties-page.so: undefined symbol: totem_interface_load_with_root01:51
pwnguinthere's already a bug filed about that01:52
pwnguinand what appears to be a patch01:52
shirishDanaG: what did you do to have that debugging output?01:52
pwnguinshirish: you have to nuke the desktop nautilus session01:53
DanaGRemove Nautilus from session, and hit apply.  Then run nautilus in a console.01:53
shirishRemove Nautilus from session, meaning killall or something else?01:53
pwnguinshirish: killall wont solve it01:53
pwnguinshirish: gnome will bring it back from the dead01:54
pwnguinjust use the handy session management stuff nobody ever looks at like DanaG suggests01:54
DanaGAnother bug: when Nautilus crashes, gnome-session doesn't relaunch it with the "-n" parameter.\01:54
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DanaGThat wallpaper has finally replaced the dawn-of-ubuntu wallpaper on my desktop.01:55
shirishDanaG: absolutely right, this is fun01:55
DanaG(wow, random topic change)01:55
pwnguinwhat wallpaper?01:55
shirishOT but does lower ratings define higher priority in session? for e.g. nautilus has 40 while most of the others have 5001:57
DanaGOOps, I just got a kernel oops in something...01:57
DanaGbut I can't tell what.01:57
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pwnguin"The session manager starts applications with lower order01:58
pwnguinvalues first. The default value is 50."01:59
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pwnguinDanaG: why should nautilus relaunch with -n?02:08
crdlbpwnguin, so it doesn't open your home folder02:09
pwnguinseems on feisty that -n is not the same as --no-default-window02:13
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pwnguinanyone else having connectivity problems with 3945 and gutsy?02:29
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calcpwnguin: i was earlier last week i installed 7.04 and it worked ok02:40
calcpwnguin: you should file a bug report if it still not working with current gutsy (if there isn't a bug report already)02:40
calci thought it was just my laptop at the time so i didn't report the bug02:41
calci had just gotten a new laptop and various things didn't work so i didn't think anything of it02:41
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pwnguincalc: it works, but it takes a lot of time to connect02:43
pwnguini donno if there's some low power thing or what02:46
DanaGOh yeah, I have ipw3945.02:52
DanaGI've been having some random dropouts.02:53
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DanaG"howto install gmailfs" -- looks like a tutorial.  Instead, it's "how do you ... ?"02:55
pwnguini dont like the forums much02:56
DanaG"How to fix this problem that nobody's ever figured out!!!!!"02:57
pwnguinit sorta winds up being the square pegs for lots of differently rounded holes02:57
DanaGthen it says "How?02:57
pwnguinlike most of the how-tos are probably better off in the wiki02:58
pwnguininstead they just edit their post02:58
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pwnguinand answers.launchpad.net has a lot of useful support specific features02:59
pwnguinbut primarily, searching through forums sucks02:59
pwnguinand bug reports, again, are better done via launchpad03:01
DanaGWhat's worse is forums that disable searching for unregistered people.03:01
DanaGOr worse: try ocforums.com (overclockers).03:01
DanaGSearch as non-member is enabled.... but never returns results for ANYTHING.03:02
pwnguini gotta say03:02
pwnguinlaunchpad is really neat compared to bugzilla03:02
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Paladinedoes anyone know how to fix the spellchecker issue in OOo in gutsy which causes OOo to segfault when you try and use the spell checker?07:00
Hobbseecalc: might07:00
Hobbseebut he's probably not here07:00
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PaladineI found a bug for feisty for it and I am trying to use the solution from there regarding using the dictionary wizard to install the correct dictionary, but English (UK) is not listed, only English (Australia), English (Canada), English (New Zealand), English (United States) and English (South Africa)07:02
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PaladineI have checked the dictionary files in /usr/lib/openoffice/dict/ooo as well and I already have english uk listed and symlinked to the relevant files07:03
Paladinethe bug basically makes it impossible for me to open any files written in English (as opposed to foreign english) as it segfaults immediately07:04
PaladineI submitted a bug to launchpad, but as far as I know no-one has even looked at it yet07:04
Paladinebug 12046207:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 120462 in openoffice.org "Open Office 2.2.0-lubuntu3 Crashes when opening MS Office files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12046207:05
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PaladineI should change the bug since it is not just ms office files effected but all files written in english(english)07:05
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calcPaladine: yea i was looking at the various spell checker bugs07:09
calcPaladine: not sure what to do about the english uk one07:09
calcPaladine: i just started working on OOo recently though so i am still learning how it works07:10
calcPaladine: do you have myspell-en-gb installed?07:10
Paladinecalc, I just added a new comment to my launchpad bug to correctly describe the problem07:10
PaladineI initially thought it was crashing on MS Office files07:10
Hobbseeafternoon calc07:11
calcPaladine: can you attach a simple test example file to that bug as well?07:11
calcPaladine: er one that causes a crash preferrably ;)07:11
calcHobbsee: heh late night here, 12:11am :)07:12
Paladinecalc, I will do one tomorrow, it is very late here now and the only files I have are personal info such as letters07:12
calcPaladine: ok no problem07:12
Paladineis myspell-en-gb a seperate package?07:12
calcHobbsee: reviewed 50 ooo bugs today07:12
calcPaladine: yes it is the dictionary for UK English afaict07:12
PaladineI will check now07:12
calcPaladine: if it does help be sure to note it in the bug07:12
Hobbseecalc: nice!07:13
calci think i ended up being about to move around 30 of them07:13
calcer move or close07:13
Paladineyeah myspell-en-gb is installed, I am gonna uninstall the other english language ones for other countries and see if that helps07:13
calcdown to 155 undecided/unconfirmed07:14
calcPaladine: ok07:14
Hobbseecalc: nice :)07:15
calcPaladine: i am about to be going to bed, if you manage to make it work somehow by doing that be sure to document it, there are various spell check issues similar to what you are seeing in the bug tracker already, so if we can get it resolved it will help close a lot of bug07:15
Paladinesure no problem calc07:15
Paladinesleep well07:15
calcthanks :)07:16
calcand have a great morning/afternoon/night ;)07:16
Paladinethanks 6am here hehe07:16
calcafternoon for Hobbsee in .au ;)07:16
calcbbl, hard to keep my eyes open, heh07:17
Paladinenah it made no difference, I removed the other language packs and then reinstalled the en-gb one to make sure it had everything it needed, still segfaults07:17
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Paladinefortunately koffice spell checker works :)07:19
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corevette<corevette> If I put Gutsy Gibbon Tribe 1 on my computer...07:33
corevette<corevette> When Tribe 2 comes out, will it update to it automatically?07:33
crimsunnot without your intervention.07:33
corevetteBut I mean, will the update manager do it all?07:34
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shirishgnomefreak: you here m8?07:35
crimsunidle     : 0 days 2 hours 17 mins 24 secs07:35
shirishcrimsun: saw that, thanx07:35
crimsuncorevette: it will tell you that there are available packages.07:36
shirishcrimsun: good u are here, could u just put https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/120655 as a wishlist bug07:36
ubotuLaunchpad bug 120655 in pidgin "Upgrade pidgin to 2.0.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 07:36
crimsunnext time please strip the .beta from the url07:37
shirishcrimsun: oops, sorry07:37
shirishcrimsun, who are x maintainers or is this nobody's baby kinda thing?07:38
crimsunx maintainers?07:40
crimsunas in X.Org?07:40
crimsunthat's X-SWAT.07:40
crimsunalso, I've marked 120655 as a dupe and changed the master's Summary07:40
shirishcrimsun: thanx07:42
shirishcrimsun: a comment list, the other bug bug 117814 has been declined by Daniel Holbach for gutsy, can we find out the reason? Perhaps because he knew 2.0.2 is going to come soon or some other reason?07:45
shirishbug #11781407:46
ubotuLaunchpad bug 117814 in pidgin "Please update Pidgin" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11781407:46
crimsunI don't know offhand.07:47
crimsunMy guess is that the reporter nominated a gutsy task07:47
crimsunwhich should be rejected, since by default the bugs are applicable against the current devel branch07:47
crimsunnominating a gutsy task against the current devel branch is unnecessary and can be declined07:48
shirishwhat is the difference between a task and a wishlist?07:48
crimsunwishlist is an Importance07:49
crimsuna task is precisely that07:49
crimsuni.e., you create tasks that correspond to source packages.07:50
crimsunthe source packages can originate anywhere - upstream, Debian, Ubuntu releases, etc.07:50
Hobbseecrimsun: unless it's a milestone07:51
shirishoh wow, this is so cool, now I can really use reportbug-ng to file upstream bugs like these07:53
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shirishthe last reportbug-ng was broken IIRC07:54
shirishin fiesty07:54
shirishsorry for changing tracks in the middle07:55
Hobbseeit's still broken, iirc.07:58
Hobbseerequires a MTA or somethign?07:58
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shirishHobbsee: correct it still requires an MTA, the improvement is atleast I can query bugs & see if it already has been reported08:02
Hobbseeshirish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/120662 is on the wrong package08:02
ubotuLaunchpad bug 120662 in aptitude "aptitude doesn't report broken package dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 08:02
shirishHobbsee: what do u mean by wrong package? It says aptitude at the top08:04
Hobbseeshirish: read the error message08:04
Hobbseethen you see where the broken dep is.08:04
Hobbseei cant reproduce the aptitude part of that08:05
Hobbseelooks local08:05
shirishHobbsee: precisely, what I'm saying is aptitude is silent about that broken dependency while apt-get atleast tells the user the error message08:05
shirishah ok08:05
Hobbseeyou could just look into the broken dependancy, and fix it.08:06
Hobbseeand provide a patch, etc.08:06
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shirishHobbsee: no developer here, but got something more08:10
Hobbseehurry up...update...08:10
Hobbseeyou can learn.08:11
shirishI'll update the info. therein08:11
Hobbseeor you can at least learn to look at error messages, and figure out the problems from tehre08:11
Hobbseecheck for debian bugs on gmailfs too08:11
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Hobbseeshirish: read debian bug 42692308:14
ubotuDebian bug 426923 in gmailfs "gmailfs: Broken package : depends on unavailable python-fuse > 2.2-2" [Normal,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/42692308:14
Hobbseeadd that to your bug in LP, via "affects another distro", and put the package as gmailfs, not aptitude.08:14
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shirishHobbsee: thanx08:17
Hobbseeshirish: you should get into bug triage - actually getting your bugs in the right place, with the right information, will get them fixed quicker08:18
Hobbseealthough that one will be ignored until upstream fixes it, so there's not much point in keeping teh ubuntu bug open08:18
shirishHobbsee: I'll love to and I try to do the right thing each time. It's just I don't know much , of course each day I learn something new08:18
Hobbseeshirish: [16:19]  *** The channel topic is "Ubuntu BugSquad | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | If you have been triaging bugs for a while, please apply to https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-qa/ - http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugsquad | Next HUG DAY on June 27th". is some infor08:19
shirishtoday is hug day?08:21
shirishIIRC it was supposed to be on the the past 13th08:21
Hobbseeno, it's not08:22
Hobbseethat's general info on bug stuff08:22
Hobbseethat's why it says the next hugday is on the 27th.  not "HUG DAY TODAY"08:22
shirishHobbsee: what is the difference between bug-reporting & bug-triaging, isn't bug-triaging a programming thing08:22
shirishHobbsee: I could read that :P08:22
Hobbseea lot of bugs are in teh wrong place, or are unconfirmed, ro dont contain enough info08:22
Hobbseetriagers go around and respond to bugs, ask fro teh required info, etc.08:23
Hobbseetry to reproduce08:23
shirishaha, ok then I'm definitely interested08:23
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shirishHobbsee: I have subscribed to the mailing list, atleast to get started08:25
Hobbsee#ubuntu-bugs is the irc channel08:25
Hobbseetends to be more activity in there08:26
shirishadding it to my list of channels ;)08:27
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shirishubotu pastebin08:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:41
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shirishHobbsee: are you there still ?08:52
Hobbseei believe that's a case of Hobbsee: ping?08:53
Hobbseein which case i would have sent you...08:53
HobbseeYou sent me a contentless ping.  This is a contentless pong.  Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I am around.08:53
shirishHobbsee: ok I tried to submit the pidgin bug upstream but this is the info. I get from there http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25809/08:53
shirishI know I didn't report the package from that e-mail but where should I have reported that?08:53
shirishwhat is this psuedo-header it keeps talking about?08:54
Hobbseeshirish: did you change Package: pidgin to Package name: pidgin in the bug report?08:54
Hobbseeit's dying over the fact that you didnt have Package: pidgin08:54
shirishaha, ok so that's the issue08:54
Hobbseeyou should follow the instructions where it says "only modify below this liine" or whatever08:55
Hobbseebecause it's automated, and is looking for the specific lines08:55
shirishHobbsee: I'm using gmail as report-bug needs this MTA thing & that is pain to configure, as I only want to send messages not receive mail.08:56
Hobbseeyou can make reportbug just use the smtp server.08:56
Hobbseein the reportbug config file.08:56
shirishaha, didn't know there was a reportbug.config file08:57
Hobbseethere usually is, for such things08:58
shirishHobbsee: dunno if this is the right place, but I would like to do the following08:59
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shirishuse reportbug-ng to find upstream bugs, and just report them using the tool08:59
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Hobbseedepending on where upstream is, that's fine09:01
Hobbseeyou can also query for bugs using reportbug09:01
Hobbseeshirish: fixed.09:02
Hobbseeshirish: reportbug now uses the default ubuntu SMTP server.09:02
shirishHobbsee: ok where is this reportbug.config file?09:02
Hobbseeuse locate09:03
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shirishstrange doing locate reportbug.config doesn't give anything as well as slocate gives nothing09:03
Hobbseetry reportbug.conf09:03
Hobbseeseeing as they usually end in .conf09:04
shirishstill nothing :/09:04
Hobbseesarah@LongPointyStick:~/Desktop$ locate reportbug.conf09:04
Hobbseehave you run sudo updatedb first?09:04
crimsun(normally man pages reference such a conffile, too)09:05
shirishnope, never although have heard about it, what does updatedb do?09:05
Hobbseeman updatedb.09:05
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shirishaha, its something similar to beagle or tracker doing there stuff, like when one does trackerd09:06
Hobbseeshirish: manpages are usually your friend, and you're expected to be able to use them when running a development release.09:06
Hobbseeif you have questions after reading the applicable manpages, or cant find the relevant manpage, it's fine to ask - but the manpages are written for a reason, and people here are often busy actually *developing* gutsy and such.09:07
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shirishsorry was disconnected for a second09:08
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Hobbsee[17:06]  <shirish> aha, its something similar to beagle or tracker doing there stuff, like when one does trackerd09:09
Hobbsee[17:06]  <Hobbsee> shirish: manpages are usually your friend, and you're expected to be able to use them when running a development release.09:09
Hobbsee[17:07]  <Hobbsee> if you have questions after reading the applicable manpages, or cant find the relevant manpage, it's fine to ask - but the manpages are written for a reason, and people here are often busy actually *developing* gutsy and such.09:09
shirishHobbsee: in your case very true09:11
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Hobbseecrimsun: what does %s tend to stand for in python?09:14
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Hobbseepresumably it's not the same as $s in bash?09:14
Hobbseecrimsun: reportbug is the particular question09:15
Hobbsee        except EnvironmentError, x:09:16
Hobbsee            ewrite("Warning: opening '%s' failed: %s.\n", attachment,09:16
Hobbseeetc etc etc09:16
crimsunit's normally a string09:17
crimsunsimilar to printf syntax09:17
Hobbseestring including spaces?09:18
crimsundon't believe so, but Python's not my primary lang09:18
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Hobbseemakes sense.  thanks.09:18
shirishHobbsee: I'm still not able to find the reportbug.conf09:19
shirish sudo updatedb09:19
shirishshirish@ubuntu:~$ locate reportbug.conf09:19
shirishwhich results in empty, do i have to make those files?09:19
Hobbseewhat does "less /etc/reportbug.conf" say?09:19
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crimsun(check http://docs.python.org/lib/typesseq-strings.html)09:20
Hobbseecrimsun: thanks09:22
Hobbseecrimsun: google wasnt finding so much09:22
shirishah I see what mistake I did, I installed reportbug-ng & it is just the gui , it needs reportbug also but is not marked as a dependancy or something09:25
Hobbseeit shouldnt need reportbug - it's an alternative09:25
coNPwhat do you think why there is no acroread in gutsy now?09:26
coNPit seems that feisty and former versions all have that09:26
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HobbseecoNP: not distributable09:27
coNPHobbsee: Do you know what has changed (their license or our term for a software being distributable)09:29
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shirishHobbsee: please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25812/09:32
HobbseecoNP: i'm not sure we were distributing ti legally09:32
coNPThanks, Hobbsee. I consider using something else instead.09:33
shirishHobbsee: going to have lunch but bbl if you get some idea for me, please lemme know or if you think there is an issue/bug with reportbug-ng even that is cool09:38
premier_are you guys talking about a new bug reporting system for gutsy? that sounds cool...09:42
Hobbseepremier_: no, it's reporbug which is mostly used in debian09:43
Hobbseeit's not apport09:43
DanaGwow, /me has been AFK for quite a while.09:44
DanaGI get this issue.09:45
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shirishHobbsee: back, any ideas what I was doing wrong? or is it some issue with reportbug-ng?10:26
Hobbseeit's not to do with -ng, definetly10:26
shirishok so how should I find out?10:27
Hobbsee /etc/reportbug.conf doesnt exist for you, presumably?10:28
shirishit does not, I did cd /etc10:30
shirishthen did ls report*10:30
shirishnothing, nda10:30
ajmorris_anyone..... are there any memory leak patches released for gutsy yet? i need one10:31
ajmorris_or if you know how to do it manually ....10:31
shirishHobbsee: one thing I can do is uninstall reportbug-ng & then install it again maybe some issue there?10:32
Hobbseeit.  has.  nothing.  to.  do.  with.  -ng.10:32
Hobbsee[18:26]  <Hobbsee> it's not to do with -ng, definetly10:32
shirishok so what, where the issue could be, tell me what I need to figure out10:33
Hobbseethe issue is somewhere in reportbug or locate10:35
Hobbseeer, reportbug only10:35
Hobbseeyou could try reinstalling reportbug, that may help10:36
shirishHobbsee: just a sec.10:36
Hobbseereportbug != reportbug-ng10:36
shirishwhat is with the !10:36
coNP!= is not equals10:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is not equals - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:37
coNPshirish: != means not =10:37
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shirishI'm getting confused so should I install reportbug alongwith reportbug-ng or just reportbug-ng is good enough?10:38
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Hobbseei'm not sure if reportbug-ng even fully works with ubuntu10:39
Hobbseein fact, i think i'ts debian only10:39
Hobbseeseeing as it's synced direct from debian10:39
shirishoh ok, I am installing both reportbug as well as reportbug-ng10:40
shirishmaybe send an e-mail to the developer sometime asking about that .conf file10:40
coNPshirish: what is your problem with reportbug-ng?10:41
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shirishcoNP: the thing is I just want to be able to send bug-reports not receive, and reportbug-ng requires one to have some kind of MTA10:42
Hobbseeyou not having reportbug.conf is a local problem, so a developer isnt going to be able to help you...10:42
Hobbseeuse reportbug then10:42
coNPshirish: then install a MTA10:42
shirishconP: please listen10:42
Hobbseeewww, mta10:43
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coNPshirish: sorry I thought you finished, I am listening10:43
shirishcoNP: so she said there is a way , using this reportbug.conf or some similar named file10:43
coNPwow I was not aware about that, very good idea, Hobbsee10:43
shirishcoNP: then I had to learn how to do updatedb, and use locate but didn't find anything10:44
Hobbseeshirish: http://rafb.net/p/8LVGJx47.html is a sample /etc/reportbug.conf file that you can use10:45
shirishcoNP: no reportbug.conf  in /etc as well as some file in /var/lib10:45
shirishHobbsee: actually don't require anymore, as I installed reportbug & it installed reportbug.conf10:46
Hobbseeright.  good.10:46
Hobbseeproblem solve.d10:46
shirishHobbsee: ok so now one thing is for definitely sure, that reportbug-ng does not have reportbug.conf or any kind of configuration file, for I purge reportbug & the reportbug.conf disappeared10:48
Hobbseethis is correct10:49
Hobbseeas reportbugs.conf has absolutely nothing to do with reportbug-ng.10:49
Hobbseelike i told you.  twice.10:49
shirishah, I was mis-interpreting that10:50
shirishok so can I file an enhancement bug so reportbug-ng also has a reportbug-ng.conf file or something like that?10:51
Hobbseedo it on the debian bugtracker.10:51
shirishwill do madame10:51
Hobbseebecause no one looks at the ubuntu one for that package10:52
shirishthat's understood10:53
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shirishHobbsee: btw see that u have uploaded the new, improved reportbug, as & when it hits the indian mirror, will download it :)11:10
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shirishHobbsee: can u get any results for aptitude search swfdec-mozilla or aptitude show swfdec-mozilla?11:32
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coNPshirish: if  you are looking for a mozilla swf player try swf-player11:38
shirishcoNP: thanx11:40
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shirishcoNP: that swf-player is based on swfdec0.3 & swfdec0.4 which is there in gutsy has the ability to play youtube videos11:44
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_4strOyop yop12:48
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kingrayrayso the new ubuntu is great! but after installing the ati drivers on my buddy's comp, we can't seem to get x to work right.. every howto we've looked at has made it worse. and aticonfig has severed the situation dramatically. anybody got a radeon 9600 and willing to show me their xorg.conf? I just need a base to work from. im' not familiar with ati- so im' having trouble helping him.01:43
kingrayraywhoa long message. sorry :D01:43
kingrayrayit's saying [atiddxSetup]  X version mismatch - detected X.org, required X.org
kingrayraywhich doesn't make any sense to me at all :/01:46
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Hobbseekingrayray: gutsy?01:51
gnomefreakkingrayray: the drivers in gutsy for ati are missing xorg 7.3 support01:51
kingrayrayare they? ok. do the open source ones work? :s01:51
gnomefreakthey will be upgraded sooner or later01:51
gnomefreaknot for 3D01:52
kingrayrayah I see01:52
kingrayrayok well I don't feel so stupid now, lol01:52
gnomefreakthe fgrlx are the ones for 3D support and they havent been upgraded yet01:52
kingrayrayati really needs to get with the program :s lol01:53
crdlbkingrayray, there is 3d support in the open source driver01:53
kingrayraycrdlb: that's what I thought, but we are currently using the OSS driver and we have no acceleratoin.. but I also am not sure what to change in xorg.conf to enable it aside from setting the driver to ati/radeon01:53
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crdlbkingrayray, you can't have fglrx installed01:54
kingrayrayok so make sure its removed and it should work? O.o01:54
crdlbyou need to purge it if it's installed01:54
crdlbsudo apt-get --purge remove xorg-driver-fglrx01:54
gnomefreakcrdlb: isnt opensource driver ati01:54
crdlband if that doesn't work, sudo apt-get --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx01:54
gnomefreakthe one that ships with ubuntu01:54
kingrayrayI was under the impression ati == radeon01:54
crdlbati == radeon01:54
gnomefreakati doesnt support 3D01:54
crdlbsudo apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-glx01:55
crdlbgnomefreak, it does01:55
gnomefreakonly fgrlx i thought was only one01:55
crdlball the way through the r400s01:55
kingrayrayok we're gonna try it, standby :)01:55
kingrayray(thanks I appreciate it guys)01:55
crdlband completely reverse-engineered :P01:55
kingrayrayisn't that like, illegal or something01:56
crdlbno it's clean-room01:56
kingrayrayah ok01:56
crdlbcompletely legal01:56
kingrayrayok after removing fglrx and reinstalling the mesa thing, and restarting x we still have no acceleration01:57
kingrayrayso I'm thinking we need to funk with xorg.conf a bit :s01:58
crdlbkingrayray, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log01:58
kingrayraysure hold on01:58
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MaxLogichi, <- kingrayray01:58
MaxLogichehe let me grab the logs01:58
MaxLogicI can pb the xorg.conf too if it helps02:00
crdlb(EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/r300_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/r300_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)02:01
MaxLogicyeah I just noticed that02:01
crdlbsudo apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-dri02:01
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MaxLogicI told him to do that before and it appears he did not, lol02:01
MaxLogicmight just be a case of PEBCAK02:02
crdlbwell the command I gave earlier was slightly different02:02
MaxLogiclets blame the user anyway02:02
crdlbthat was glx this is dri02:02
MaxLogichehe :D02:02
MaxLogicthink that'll clear it up?02:02
crdlbit should02:02
MaxLogic(this dsl line is sloooooow)02:02
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MaxLogicsee any other glitches in tehre I could clean up before I restart x? :s02:03
MaxLogicati logs confuse me, they are way more extensive than the stuff nvidia spits out lol02:03
MaxLogicok that's done I'll brb02:04
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MaxLogicit worked, thanks a ton guys02:05
MaxLogiclesson of the day is fglrx is evil! :D02:05
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crdlbthat's a very useful lesson :)02:06
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kingrayrayok so do any of you guys use compiz (desktop effects) with nvidia?02:16
kingrayrayim trying to try out all the new stuff :)02:16
kingrayraytrying to try... redundancy ftw02:17
kingrayrayit kinda works, but no window borders and it's kinda slow. lol02:17
crdlbis all the compcomm stuff in?02:17
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kingrayrayprobably not if I have to do it manually :) fresh install here02:17
kingrayrayI just see the option in my menu so I guess I assumed it was set up.02:18
crdlbit's being packaged to go in gutsy02:18
kingrayraymy buddy ( the ati guy) just flipped the switch for it and it works great02:19
kingrayrayso now im jealous02:19
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kingrayrayI know it sounds like I'm having a buncha problems, but everything is actually going very smoothly, and I think I am going to permanently ditch gentoo :)02:22
kingrayraywow, when you try to run an app that's not installed it tells you how to get it :D02:24
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kingrayrayI just forgot to add an option to xorg.conf :) hooray for 3d desktop02:33
kingrayrayok I know this is OT but what's the apt command to purge an app with all its deps? (ala beryl)02:34
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gnomefreakkingrayray: depedns how you installed it. if you use apt-get than remove each item02:36
gnomefreakif you use aptitude just aptitude remove02:36
gnomefreak--purge is just for config files02:36
kingrayrayhmm, so I have to find all the pkg names it installed02:37
gnomefreakif you dont remember use synaptic02:37
kingrayraygood idea02:37
gnomefreaksearch beryl02:37
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gnomefreakin synaptic02:37
kingrayrayvictory is mine02:40
kingrayrayI'll relearn apt I swear :D02:40
kingrayraythanks again buddy02:40
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zaggynlHi, does anyone knows a good clientside tool to limit bandwidth per application? trickle does the job, but at extremely high cpu usage03:25
zaggynlAny alternative to trickle? like, lets say, netlimiter? http://www.zefhemel.com/upload/netlimiter.jpg03:27
shirishzaggynl: I'm just a basic user, but what kind of cpu u have & what kind of load does trickle give?03:30
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shirishzaggynl: i do know that recently debian package of the day put up a good show about it03:31
zaggynlshirish, amd64 3200 Venice @ 2 Ghz, 100% usage03:31
zaggynlstarted like: 'trickle -s -d 350 -u 50  -L 10 -w 1024 -t 1 <app>'03:32
zaggynlhmm, trickle hasn't been updated for 4 years03:33
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shirishsorry, sad to hear that, I'm working on something atm otherwise would have loved to see if we could find something03:39
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FjodorBug #96566 would it be safe to chgrp /var/mail to users?04:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 96566 in mozilla-thunderbird "movemail account does not work with default /var/mail permissions" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9656604:40
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shirishHobbsee: sorry if I hurt you, I didn't mean to06:28
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shachafHow usable is Gutsy right now?06:59
shachafI don't need much (I don't use GNOME or complicated window managers like that, for example), but I wouldn't want it to crash a lot.06:59
Hobbseeshachaf: it crashes.07:01
Hobbseedont use it on production machines, or where you need it to work on a given day, etc07:01
shachafHobbsee: Which part of it crashes?07:01
shachafHobbsee: Hmm, OK.07:01
shachafHobbsee: Thanks.07:01
Hobbsee depends on the day07:01
Hobbseeand what's been updated07:01
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shachafBut I guess this is a bit early.07:02
corevettescachaf: It's not crashing on me, yet, barely, if any new features07:06
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kingrayrayanybody got wmv files playing in gutsy?08:54
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kingrayrayah nvm, its just a gstreamer thing :) mplayer works.08:58
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jason357where do I download gusty?09:14
bur[n] erjason357: it's gutsy... i think your google search will be better with "ubuntu 7.10 gutsy gibbon"09:15
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bur[n] ernp... if you'r running feisty... you can just change your /etc/apt/sources.list of course and dist-upgrade09:17
bur[n] erjason357: heed the topic of course :)09:18
jason357yeah, got that09:18
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Dev05Hi. I installed Kubuntu 7.10 today and after I installed the nVidia driver, I don't get any visual output at all, not even a console. The only thing that works is usplash. Any ideas?11:37
Dev05From nVidia.com, not the package in the repos.11:37
tritiumWhy did you not use the package in the repos?11:38
Dev05tritium, I'm used to do it from the nVidia site. Sorry for that :(11:38
tritiumNo apologies necessary, Dev05.  That's your decision, but we do recommend the packages, especially if you seek any kind of support11:39
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Dev05tritium, :) It's just that I've never had any issues with the drivers directly from nVidia. Do you know if there is any way to recover my installation?11:40
tritiumDev05: sorry, I've not installed from nvidia.com, just the repos.  I'm sure there is, though11:41
Dev05Oh, may be disabling the driver from modprobe should work...11:41
tritiumDev05: well, that won't actually uninstall it11:41
Dev05tritium, I know. It's just that at least I can get the system booted.11:42
Dev05Heh, "blacklist nvidia"11:43
Dev05OK, I'll see how it does now.11:44
tritiumGood luck, Dev05!  See you later.  :)11:44
Dev05tritium, Thanks!11:45
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johnnybuoydoes anyone know how to use kvm?12:12
johnnybuoyi get this error:12:13
johnnybuoykvm_create_vm: Invalid argument12:13
johnnybuoyCould not create KVM context12:13
johnnybuoyI googled it, but nothing12:13
johnnybuoyand it seems my arguments are fine12:13
DanaGI think it's a known bug somewhere on Launchpad.12:18
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